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I want to call the um

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committee meeting for August 5th to

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order.

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Um, first on the list is the community

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of whole and that would be Dom with July

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Yard Beautifification Awards.

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so there's our awesome sign. You'll see

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it at the following homes. Is this Am I

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using this clicker?

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You're doing it for me. Okay, thank you.

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Next.

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Okay, so first this is Liz and Kyle's

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house, and they're actually here today.

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um their neighbors who submitted them,

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they said that they take pride in their

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yard and in the garden. They're very

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intentional to have native plants and

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are also very intentional to remove

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invasive species. Side note, Kyle is the

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forestry teacher at Roosevelt, so he

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kind of he this is natural for him.

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>> Can I jump in? Aren't you forestry

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teacher of the year? Is that correct?

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>> Yeah. All right. [clears throat]

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of the year like in Ohio.

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>> Okay. Very humble brag over here. So

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very proud of that. Um and then the next

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one is Renee and Randy Rich. I don't

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know how to say that.

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>> Thank you. Um the folks who submitted

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them, they had said that while there's

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not a built garden, um they impressively

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used their yards for their yard and

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their sideyard for native plants and

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flowers and vegetables as well. Um and

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Renee was super generous um when I was

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there giving her her sign. She's like,

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"Do you want some of my plants?" And I'm

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like, "I mean, yes, actually, I probably

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will come back and get some." So, uh, if

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you want to stop over at 237 Highland,

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I'm sure she'll give you some as well.

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So, that's who we have. If you see these

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signs, um, make sure you or if you know

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these people, say thank you for having

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great yards. And I'm going to take a

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picture if you guys don't mind. Come up

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here with counsel.

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Congratulations.

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» And side note, this isn't on there, but

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tomorrow is another movie night. So if

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you have people who want to come to

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Artemis Park at 7 o'clock.

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» Thanks Tom.

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Update Steve.

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We don't have any

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updates.

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>> Okay. Uh council pending list update.

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Um, we missed 1.3.

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>> 1.3 is postponed.

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>> Oh, it is. I apologize for

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next month.

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» Sorry. Thank you very much. This tends

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to be I'm having a night. Um, [laughter]

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this tends to be stuff that is more

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longer serving, sometimes intentionally

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waiting on things, sometimes just

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keeping it on the list because it's a

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topical area that you guys have said,

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"Yeah, you've satisfied the original

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motion, but we still care about this

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topic enough that we can just keep it on

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the list." We're fine with that. Um,

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remember too that this is not the ten

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commandments written in stone. You can

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change this. You can add it. does it

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gets added to um and I know at the

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previous meeting Mr. Hook made a motion

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to remove something. So, we've reflected

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that in here. Anyway, so you can it's your to-do list. Our I should say

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our to-do list because it's kind of a

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joint effort, right? Um so, some of

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these will look familiar to you. Uh this

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first one here, explore senior center

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advisory committee. That was the

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original motion was just a uh Melissa

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Long dated how dated that is. She wanted

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a actual separate standalone just we

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have sustainability commission. She

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wanted a senior citizen commission.

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like senior citizens, but we don't want

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to get in the habit of having a bunch of

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different commissions. We think we can

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represent those interests in the council

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chambers and um without a standalone

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commission." But they said, "We care

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enough about seniors and we want to we

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had some speakers come in and talked

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about what senior services were in other

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cities and there's not a lot of senior

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support uh senior activities here.

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uh like a senior center. And if you

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recall, part of our inspiration for

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buying the church was Angela had some

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interest in perhaps trying to convert

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that to a senior activity center. It's

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still a work in progress. She's not here

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tonight, but um I I've been on part of

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conversations with her getting a

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contractor in there to really figure out

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what it would take to turn that into a

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usable senior. It doesn't. She hasn't

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specifically said seniors yet, but an

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activity center of some sort, which

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seniors would be on that list. So, it's

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still ongoing. We're happy to keep it on

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there. I think that's what I

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recommended. Yeah, keep it on there. So,

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that' be that recommendation. Um,

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Franklin Township sidewalk shoveling in

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that section. It's kind of like a little

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bit into the city, a little out of the

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city, then back in the city. It's that

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and and it's not all sidewalked. Um some

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of parts of it has sidewalk. Now Jim is

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got that project in that section. Once

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East Maine wraps up hopefully carries

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that all the way down to 261 and a big

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part of the funding which he's got much

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of the funding secured for that. So

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we're we're excited about that. And

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that'll have actual designated wide

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sidewalks pulled back a little bit off

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the roadway. Um I think that's when this

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really matters. But in the meantime, uh

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we did learn a couple things that we

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actually do where there is sidewalk, we

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parks and wreck will continue down the

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hill for much of that section um where

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there's sidewalk, not where there's not.

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do distribute the notices at the start

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of the season and when there's man-made

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piles or now this year natural

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accumulations, she will notify those

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businesses that they need to do it. Now,

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um I guess we we can't cite the ones

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that are technically not in the city,

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but we can certainly ask them to be good

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business neighbors. So, um we're happy

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fine keeping it on the list if that's

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what you want. You could also probably

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remove it, but it's totally up to you.

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because it is really about a partnership

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and that hasn't really been

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worked through and you know we are all

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looking forward to the day when

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sidewalks will be complete and it might

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it it might you know for resources p

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purposes we might want to keep that

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partnership idea rather than taking it

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all on ourselves. But it's I think it's

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worth um I think I think when the public

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and the township people in the township

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see how wonderful it can be to have

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walkability then there's going to be

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more interest in resource sharing at

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that point. So let's keep it on.

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the consent number three was the consent

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agenda and that was removed. You've

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already voted to remove that. So that

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was what Mr. Hook made a motion to um

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noise ordinance. I think I suspect

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that'll always be an ongoing issue of

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one version of another. You have had

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conversations. We have made changes, but

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I think there's still even more a couple

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things that we're still looking at

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trying to gather more information. Um

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ironically a couple of the outstanding

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requests were the opposite. It was to

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lighten to loosen the the noise

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ordinance. Um, and those were by people

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that got cited. So, uh, anyways,

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you can't please everybody all the time.

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balance and um, yeah, so I think we keep

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that one on the list as far as we're

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concerned unless you're inspired to

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remove it. um

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the downtown historic district that it's

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probably best if just read that

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paragraph but um there has been a lot of

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discussion activity on at the end of the

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day a lot of the uh historic design

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elements were incorporated into the

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zoning code. you um ceased the ARB

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functionality

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um and I think it's still the same

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sentiment that hey any property owner

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that wants to voluntarily you know make

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their property designation uh for

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historic we welcome that and we've got

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the ability to do it quickly we have the

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expedited CLG certification so and we've

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done that you this council's probably I

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one earlier this year. Um but the the

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idea of us imposing drawing lines and

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imposing this on people uh property

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council's been and staff has not

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recommended that either. I think you

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could remove that from the list what

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that would be. Um I'll finish and then

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you can decide which ones you want to

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keep. Um the architectural review board

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functionality. So I think that goes away

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but keep in mind that doesn't mean this

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next month or this month you could reput

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it. You could have a new version of

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that. So, I know sometimes because there

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are folks that this does matter to this

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concept, even though the original motion

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to put it on the pending list has sort

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of been resolved. Um, it doesn't mean it

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goes away forever. So, if you don't want

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it to go away forever. So, I would just

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share that with you. I think for this at

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this point, that one probably I would

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lean more towards. It's probably worth

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removing that from your list. Um,

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yeah, this next one, the requirement for

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in-person board interviews and

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commission interviews, staff doesn't

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really have a strong opinion on that

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one. That's kind of, I guess, up to you

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guys to talk about. Um, and we haven't

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scheduled time for that in committee,

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but I guess that's what would need to

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happen. I don't I don't get the sense

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that it's a stressful, urgent item or or

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somebody would have brought it up. I

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actually think some of this came from

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your predecessors. So, I don't know how

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much you guys even carry uh carried

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interest in this. Um I believe it was

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Jeff that made a referral for the

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arborist. It was tree issues on during

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inspections. Can we flag some tree

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issues, tree safety issues on private

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property, particularly rentals? And so

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Bridget worked on that. I think she's

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talked to Jeff on that. We've

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incorporated some new forms, referral

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forms that her inspectors can use to in

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advise central maintenance when they see

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a tree that we ought to have our arbors

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take a look at. Um, we don't have the

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staffing to do every tree and every

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rental inspection. So, we don't want to

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make it part of the specific rental

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process, but if it uh if we're there,

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we're happy to flag it and and start,

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you know, kind of its own process at

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that point. Um, so far so good. I mean,

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it's it's just been this year that

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bridges started that, but I hadn't seen

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any um push back on that. And then

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lastly, the um the warming centers

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concept, you know, you guys added

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$10,000. Is that right? And and we uh

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That's right. And then we um we did that

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two seasons now, I think. So, you had

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continued the pilot. You authorized its

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continuation. So, I don't think we need

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to keep it on the list anymore, but

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again, we're fine to go whatever

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direction you want. So, those are the

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items before you. Hey guys, what what

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are your wishes here?

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» I go down the line.

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>> Okay. Start down there, Ben. Kind of go

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down the line.

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>> That will be retain or remove. Yeah. or

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should we just pick one and then we'll

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just kind of get a problem here.

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>> So start with the uh senior center

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advisory committee.

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» Yes.

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Okay,

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>> I agree with Sarah. Let's remove it.

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>> I

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can because we can put this back as a in

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a different form perhaps. Um I agree

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that the senior center advisory

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committee has been on here long enough.

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I think we're moving forward and maybe

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we'll come up with something else and

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put it on later. So, I'm I'm fine with

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removing

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>> Eric. Remove.

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>> Remove.

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>> Okay.

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>> So, it's gone.

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>> Should I Should I do all in favor of

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removing?

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Yeah. All those people in favor of

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removing it raise their hand. I

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>> I

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>> opposed. Okay. So, it's removed.

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discussion of the Franklin Township or

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on sidewalk shoveling.

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We just do all those who want it

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removed.

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It probably easier, right?

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>> All those in favor of removing that from

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the pending list.

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>> All those who want it it remained on the

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pending list. I

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>> Okay, remains.

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>> Exploring the use of the consent agenda

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was already been removed.

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Uh, council committee noise ordinance

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review

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in favor of removing

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one. All those in favor of keeping

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four or five. So yeah. So it remains

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downtown historic district. All those in

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favor of removing pending list.

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>> One, two, three, four, five. All remd.

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Role of the architectural review board.

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All those in favor of removing I.

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>> I.

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>> Okay. Passes.

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Um.

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Okay. Requirement of for in-person board

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interviews.

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All those in favor of removing.

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All those in favor of keeping it on the

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pending list. Okay. So that keeps on.

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Number five. Arborous and Health

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Department included in rental

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inspections. All those in favor of

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removing I.

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>> Okay, it's removed. And warming centers

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for the unhoused.

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All those in favor of removing

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three four. So those who want to keep it

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on

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one. So it's removed.

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Okay,

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>> that's it. Thank you, mayor.

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>> Thank you.

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All right.

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So, next is

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community development.

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>> All right.

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Um and Bridget's coming up. We're going

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to talk about the economic development

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strategy update.

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>> Yes. Um, we have a consultant here today

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that I'm going to actually turn the mic

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over to let him introduce himself and uh

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talk about his process for the economic

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development strategy. But I did want to

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give everybody a little background on

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how we identify consultants. For those

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of you that may not be familiar, uh, the

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community development department issues

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requests for qualifications and we

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identify consultants that have done the

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work that we are seeking in other Ohio

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cities. The consultant doesn't

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necessarily need to be based in Ohio,

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but we find that it really makes a

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difference if they have familiarity with

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the state of Ohio and its laws and have

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done work specifically in Northeast

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Ohio. Um, the assistant uh community

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development director worked with me on

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identifying five consultants that had

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done work in Ohio and uh we received

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just one proposal but ironically it came

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from the one that we were hoping for. uh

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he has an extensive CV as which I

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included in my packet. He has done um

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basically economic development strategic

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work worldwide but more importantly also

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in Northeast Ohio in um many different

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details and formats. Uh so far it has

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been um a wonderful experience with him

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and I would like to have Randol Gross

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come up and he can talk to you about his

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experience and what he's going to be

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doing with Kent.

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Thank you, Bridget.

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Hello everyone.

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I'm Randy Gross. I'm an economic and

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strategic planning consultant based in

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Nashville. Uh Randle Gross Development

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Economics is the full name of my firm,

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which is a mouthful. Sorry about that.

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Um I've been consulting almost 40 years,

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so a lot of gray hair up here. And maybe

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about 700 or so projects worldwide. I

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had an office in Washington DC, London

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and Johannesburg, South Africa for many

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years. Have worked all over Southern

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Africa, West Africa, Europe and the

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North America primarily but have done

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training actually worldwide. So um lot

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of experience in different aspects of

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economic development which is maybe

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about 40 or 50% of my work. I also do a

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lot of real estate market analysis and

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financial feasibility assessment which

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is also an important part of my work and

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of course they're

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interface between the two of those and

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then I do a lot of economic and fiscal

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analysis economic fiscal impact analysis

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and other types of fiscal studies and a variety of other things. For

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example, in Africa I did a lot of

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agricultural economics um and

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conservation economics. So, my

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experience comes from a broad array of

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different areas. Um, in addition to work

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internationally, as Bridget mentioned,

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I've worked in in Northeast Ohio quite a

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bit, in your neighboring community of

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Hudson, in um well, Hudson as well as in

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Stowe, in Cleveland, in Independence,

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some other communities in Northeast

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Ohio. So in addition to that, other

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parts of Ohio and a lot of college towns

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all over the place, including Granville,

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Ohio, which you're probably familiar

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with, and Oxford, Ohio, some others. So

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I know a little bit about where you're

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coming from here, but the purpose of

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this trip that I'm on now is to really

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learn and listen from you about what

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your priorities are, what your interests

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are, what direction uh you'd like to see

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yourselves going in.

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So, I've been holding some interviews

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this trip uh with different folks uh

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that were recommended to me uh including

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uh and I cannot pronounce his last name,

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but Don Sheldall

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>> um as well as some folks from Davy Tree

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um some folks from the Portage

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Development uh uh agency

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um as well as a small business person

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I'll be meeting with in downtown and

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some representatives of Penn State

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University, but I welcome any

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suggestions you have on others uh to

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meet with while I'm here. I'll also be

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inventorying everything and doing site

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analysis and looking at everything

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that's here now so that I have a feel

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for the context of of what we're working

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with. And I'll be when I'm in downtown,

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for example, we'll be stopping at a lot

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of the businesses and conducting some ad

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hoc interviews with with the folks that

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are working here as well. So, um, that's

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kind of what I'm doing on this trip.

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I'll be also conducting two more trips.

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So, I want to have an interface with you

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on those as well to give you feedback on

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what I'm doing and where I am with

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things as well as to present some uh

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preliminary findings or strategies when

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I get to the end. There'll be in

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addition to the site assessment,

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there'll be socioeconomic baseline

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analysis. So, looking at all of your

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trends. I've already been reviewing a

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lot of the documentation that that

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Bridget and her team have provided. Um,

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and there's a lot of it. So, there was

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the strategic plan you did last year,

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2025, which I have reviewed. Um, and a

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lot of other things. So, I've been going

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through all of that documentation.

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Um, I'll be doing a benchmarking

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assessment. So, one of the questions I

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have for you tonight is what communities

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you'd like me to look at in addition to

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the ones that I select on my own in

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terms of benchmarking the city for

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economic development um against others,

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for example, in Northeast Ohio or

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elsewhere. So, I'm interested in your

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opinion on that.

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I'll be sort of conducting a target

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market analysis.

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And you know, right now when I looked at

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the strategic plan, I noticed that

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you're really looking at Northeast Ohio

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information about what the target

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industries are, what types of businesses

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um you're looking at as a region. But

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the purpose of this or one of the

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purposes of this is really to focus on

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what is specifically your targets and your needs for for your comm your

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community u for Kent. So that'll be a

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big part of what I'm doing as well. And

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then there'll be economic development

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strategies and an implementation action

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plan that will be developed out of this

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that'll address things like business

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retention and growth, marketing and

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recruitment, entrepreneurship,

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uh keeping downtown vibrant, uh, real

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estate and development, relationships

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with your various partners,

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infrastructure, leveraging, all of those

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types of things. But I'll be hearing

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from you as well iteratively. So, I want

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to know what other things you'll be

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wanting me to look at. And there'll also

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be metrics as part of this to sort of

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measure your progress going forward. And

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of course, all of this will be contained

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00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:54,000
in a written report. So, for tonight, as

545
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:55,760
I mentioned before, I'd like to hear

546
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,679
from you a little bit about what you

547
00:25:57,679 --> 00:25:59,600
feel the priorities are for economic

548
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:01,279
development, if I have enough time to do

549
00:26:01,279 --> 00:26:01,919
that.

550
00:26:01,919 --> 00:26:06,320
>> Okay. and also sort of what benchmarking

551
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,640
you'd like me to see uh you'd like me to

552
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:10,640
do in terms of Northeast Ohio or

553
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,440
elsewhere, communities that you feel

554
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,440
have been successful or that have

555
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:17,440
achieved the kinds of things you'd like

556
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,080
to achieve here um in the ways that

557
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:21,840
you'd like to see economic development

558
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:25,120
achieved. So, I'm opening up the floor

559
00:26:25,120 --> 00:26:26,960
to you for also for any questions you

560
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,520
have about me or my background as we

561
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,679
move forward, but

562
00:26:31,679 --> 00:26:32,799
>> it's up to you now.

563
00:26:32,799 --> 00:26:35,919
>> So, uh, who would like to start?

564
00:26:35,919 --> 00:26:37,520
>> I've got a few.

565
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:38,559
>> Um, hi.

566
00:26:38,559 --> 00:26:39,279
>> Hi.

567
00:26:39,279 --> 00:26:39,919
>> Welcome.

568
00:26:39,919 --> 00:26:40,320
>> Thank you.

569
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:44,480
>> Welcome, Ken. Um, so a couple maybe some

570
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,320
suggestions on additional persons to

571
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,640
meet with. maybe a copen machine because

572
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,679
they're medium-sized and because we just

573
00:26:51,679 --> 00:26:53,679
invested in their future and it's

574
00:26:53,679 --> 00:26:56,559
directly adjacent to our downtown and

575
00:26:56,559 --> 00:27:00,799
employment growth is the projection.

576
00:27:00,799 --> 00:27:02,559
>> Okay, perfect.

577
00:27:02,559 --> 00:27:03,360
>> Right.

578
00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:05,919
>> Um so like medium-sized businesses like

579
00:27:05,919 --> 00:27:07,360
what is what is the environment for

580
00:27:07,360 --> 00:27:10,720
that? Of course small businesses but I

581
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,320
just want to catch the spectrum. you're

582
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:13,760
already meeting with Davey, which is

583
00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:15,840
great that you know, as long as we get

584
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,240
the spectrum so that we're

585
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,720
>> as knowledgeable as possible about all

586
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:22,559
the different potential entities that

587
00:27:22,559 --> 00:27:23,919
might be interested in being in a place

588
00:27:23,919 --> 00:27:24,960
like Kent.

589
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,320
>> Um, when it comes to benchmarking, I

590
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,400
don't think there's another Kent in

591
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,320
northeastern Ohio. And so, it's just

592
00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:33,919
really hard to think about what that

593
00:27:33,919 --> 00:27:36,640
benchmark is. And so, gosh, I'd look to

594
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,799
your expertise and thinking more broadly

595
00:27:38,799 --> 00:27:40,960
around benchmarking. Surely there's some

596
00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,679
economic indicators that you can look to

597
00:27:43,679 --> 00:27:46,960
for benchmarking, but our vibe is very

598
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,760
different than the Hudson and Stow that

599
00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,080
you've already done some work with. Um,

600
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,440
and because of our very real and large

601
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:56,159
college,

602
00:27:56,159 --> 00:27:56,559
>> right?

603
00:27:56,559 --> 00:27:59,919
>> Uh, and our boundaries, our sizing for

604
00:27:59,919 --> 00:28:03,039
sure as well. Um, that's where I'll

605
00:28:03,039 --> 00:28:04,799
start and I'll just pass it to some

606
00:28:04,799 --> 00:28:05,279
other

607
00:28:05,279 --> 00:28:06,480
>> Can I ask Benjamin?

608
00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:07,200
>> Yeah.

609
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:08,960
>> Benjamin works at the university.

610
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,919
>> Okay. Do you have college towns that you

611
00:28:11,919 --> 00:28:13,440
would say, "Man, these are some of my

612
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:15,600
favorite and they are similar to Kent

613
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,960
maybe." Do you have anything like that you could think of given your

614
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:20,880
>> I I I believe I know who you're meeting

615
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,240
with at the university and they will

616
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,480
have a good answer to that. [laughter]

617
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:25,120
>> Okay.

618
00:28:25,120 --> 00:28:27,760
>> Yeah, I think you're meeting with Dana.

619
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,279
>> Yes, meeting with Dana on Friday.

620
00:28:29,279 --> 00:28:32,240
>> Nick, perfect. They will have a a better

621
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:33,679
answer than I have because they have it

622
00:28:33,679 --> 00:28:36,559
on the ready.

623
00:28:36,559 --> 00:28:39,360
And I should say also that as Bridget

624
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,039
mentioned, I will be having focus groups

625
00:28:41,039 --> 00:28:43,600
next time I I'm here that will have

626
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,360
representatives of a broad array of

627
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,440
different sectors of your local economy,

628
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,919
including small businesses, womanowned

629
00:28:49,919 --> 00:28:51,440
businesses, for example, different types

630
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,320
of groups and um so I'll hear from a

631
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:55,760
diverse array of different types of

632
00:28:55,760 --> 00:29:00,080
businesses and sizes. I will add a

633
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:02,000
number of constituents have approached

634
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,559
me and said, "Gosh, it'd be nice if we

635
00:29:04,559 --> 00:29:08,320
had more businesses like Sugaren Falls

636
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,240
so that you can walk around and peruse."

637
00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:11,840
That has been mentioned to me a number

638
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,000
of times.

639
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:18,720
I don't know if that's possible because

640
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:25,360
I know that retail business is very very hard and we do have so much

641
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,159
storefront that is and we and we do have

642
00:29:28,159 --> 00:29:30,799
vacancies and so you know those are very

643
00:29:30,799 --> 00:29:33,279
real things to our downtown and then we

644
00:29:33,279 --> 00:29:35,600
have you know draw some concentric

645
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,440
circles outside of the downtown and we

646
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,559
need to think about all areas as well.

647
00:29:40,559 --> 00:29:41,600
>> Okay. Yeah.

648
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,000
>> I'll pass the mic.

649
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,720
Are you ready, Melissa?

650
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,000
I'm not going to take up too much

651
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:49,679
because I we already spoke for well over

652
00:29:49,679 --> 00:29:51,600
an hour, but the one thing that we

653
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,600
didn't talk about that ties into what

654
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,600
Benjamin's talking about is that we

655
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,760
really have an issue with parking

656
00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,760
>> and that impacts our retail

657
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,799
establishments and it's it definitely

658
00:30:02,799 --> 00:30:05,520
impacts uh the churn that we talked

659
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,480
about and even though we don't

660
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,320
necessarily think of that in economic

661
00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:12,320
development terms, it's a really big

662
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:15,520
issue um for the downtown businesses. So

663
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,320
that that idea of walkability is really

664
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,399
true. I mean, Ben and I both walk all

665
00:30:20,399 --> 00:30:23,279
over the town, so do other people here,

666
00:30:23,279 --> 00:30:27,760
but from a stores perspective,

667
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,840
>> it's retail is hard. We don't want to

668
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:30,720
make it harder,

669
00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:31,120
>> right?

670
00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:31,840
>> So,

671
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:32,159
>> okay.

672
00:30:32,159 --> 00:30:34,320
>> And and I think in every downtown I work

673
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,200
in, parking is one of the top three

674
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:38,320
issues.

675
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:39,840
>> Yes, [laughter] of course.

676
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:41,760
>> Yeah. We're glad you're here. Thank you.

677
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,846
>> What are the other two?

678
00:30:43,846 --> 00:30:45,279
>> [laughter]

679
00:30:45,279 --> 00:30:46,799
>> Um,

680
00:30:46,799 --> 00:30:48,240
well, it's different in every community,

681
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,640
but parking is a consistent one because

682
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,559
everyone, you know, in America, we're

683
00:30:52,559 --> 00:30:54,720
used to parking in right next to where

684
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,320
we want to go with convenience. So,

685
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:57,600
that's a big deal

686
00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,679
>> a lot of places.

687
00:30:59,679 --> 00:31:02,159
>> Yeah.

688
00:31:02,159 --> 00:31:02,480
>> Yep.

689
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,399
>> And then if if you do look at Sugarin

690
00:31:04,399 --> 00:31:07,520
Falls, they have a walkable little town

691
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:11,360
with some parking. Um, but it does not

692
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,720
impact their retail like it does here

693
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,559
because they do have some really

694
00:31:16,559 --> 00:31:18,399
successful retail and I only know this

695
00:31:18,399 --> 00:31:20,799
because I run a farmers market in their

696
00:31:20,799 --> 00:31:21,520
downtown.

697
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,870
>> Okay.

698
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,399
» Thank you.

699
00:31:26,399 --> 00:31:30,710
>> Who else would like to speak?

700
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,399
» No.

701
00:31:32,399 --> 00:31:34,960
Nobody else. I would like to talk.

702
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:36,799
>> Good. But I'm running this meeting,

703
00:31:36,799 --> 00:31:37,840
>> so I can't.

704
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:38,480
>> Oh,

705
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:39,840
>> can we meet?

706
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,320
>> I'm the downtown council representative

707
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,480
and I have a lot of very strong opinions

708
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:45,840
and

709
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,320
>> interests in economic development.

710
00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,159
>> Okay.

711
00:31:50,159 --> 00:31:51,760
>> Is there anything else anyone wants to

712
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,159
say about prior their priorities for

713
00:31:54,159 --> 00:31:55,919
economic what you feel are the your

714
00:31:55,919 --> 00:31:57,840
priorities or has it all been captured

715
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,960
in the strategic plan that I've read?

716
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:04,559
>> Priorities. I can I just add that

717
00:32:04,559 --> 00:32:07,600
council has been I don't know kneede hip

718
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:10,799
deep in what we sort of anecdotally

719
00:32:10,799 --> 00:32:14,080
called downtown part two which was along

720
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:17,200
the river railroad corridor. It's start

721
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:18,960
it's a they're doing like a strategic

722
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:20,799
planning exercise in conjunction with

723
00:32:20,799 --> 00:32:22,799
community members too and we I don't

724
00:32:22,799 --> 00:32:24,240
know if we've shared that information

725
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,039
with you Randy but um

726
00:32:27,039 --> 00:32:30,880
there's been a lot of conversation about

727
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,360
that we've we've built this great sort

728
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:37,679
of physical infrastructure downtown and now we just need to continue to

729
00:32:37,679 --> 00:32:39,919
activate and animate it and a lot of

730
00:32:39,919 --> 00:32:41,840
that seems to resonate really well with

731
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:43,760
sort of experiential

732
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,320
retail experiential dining

733
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,399
>> and and I think Shagrin Falls has some

734
00:32:48,399 --> 00:32:50,960
of that feel to it, too. I haven't spent

735
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,720
much time there, but um I think we're

736
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,679
leaning more and more towards what can

737
00:32:57,679 --> 00:33:01,600
we do add into the downtown

738
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,240
amenity wise sort of quality of life

739
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,960
things. There's been a um there was a

740
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:08,480
master plan done for parks and

741
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:09,840
recreation and one of their top

742
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,360
priorities was more small recreational

743
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,559
activity things for families and others

744
00:33:16,559 --> 00:33:20,320
downtown sort of worked into the the

745
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,799
general topography down there. And uh

746
00:33:22,799 --> 00:33:24,240
Sarah's probably going to raise her hand

747
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:28,253
and say she wants the the London Eye. Uh

748
00:33:28,253 --> 00:33:29,360
[laughter]

749
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,840
>> okay. But those but the it's been a fun

750
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:36,159
process because we're spitballing ideas

751
00:33:36,159 --> 00:33:38,080
and and we've got a fair number of those

752
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:39,440
and we're happy at some point. I don't

753
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,039
know if we've sh we've given you an elf.

754
00:33:41,039 --> 00:33:43,440
I know he's like no more. So

755
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,840
>> no I did say no more. Bring it on. I

756
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,240
mean but but there the experiential

757
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:49,760
component and that word actually was

758
00:33:49,760 --> 00:33:51,600
used multiple times in the strategic

759
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,840
plan. So I was familiar with that but

760
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:55,840
the specific ideas that you have I

761
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,360
welcome whatever

762
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,360
>> concepts that's what I was going to say.

763
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:02,320
So when you're looking at this plan,

764
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,559
you're also going to look at what's the

765
00:34:04,559 --> 00:34:06,880
community's already contributed to our

766
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,800
downtown part two. Okay. So all the way

767
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,520
at the tippy tippy top

768
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,159
uh splash pad. [laughter]

769
00:34:16,159 --> 00:34:17,280
>> Yeah. And that was on the list.

770
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,520
>> Any amphitheater. So those kind of

771
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,159
things if you're looking

772
00:34:22,159 --> 00:34:26,000
in like those those habitually come back

773
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:27,760
from community members that they want to

774
00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:32,159
see more family oriented things and

775
00:34:32,159 --> 00:34:35,599
actually things that are geared toward

776
00:34:35,599 --> 00:34:39,040
un university students as well. So will

777
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,000
you be here for flashes first Friday

778
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,720
because maybe you should come.

779
00:34:44,720 --> 00:34:48,480
>> What time of day is that?

780
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,560
Oh, he won't be here. You should come

781
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:52,159
back. It'll be a good opportunity to

782
00:34:52,159 --> 00:34:53,280
meet with people.

783
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:54,879
>> Video. That's right.

784
00:34:54,879 --> 00:34:56,720
>> That would be good. See,

785
00:34:56,720 --> 00:34:59,680
>> I I think it's important there's maybe

786
00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,720
it may not be self-evident, but in the

787
00:35:02,720 --> 00:35:04,079
spirit of putting our money where our

788
00:35:04,079 --> 00:35:08,160
mouth is. Council is investing, we're

789
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:09,520
anticipating quarter of a million

790
00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,200
dollars specifically into parks and

791
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:12,800
recreation for the first time ever

792
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,160
because they're they're kind of

793
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,640
self-funded. And the reason I point that

794
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,280
out is because we're categorizing a lot

795
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,839
whether it's splash pad a downtown

796
00:35:21,839 --> 00:35:24,320
ferris wheel or I mean we jokingly but

797
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,160
we think it's important to

798
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:29,440
>> throw everything out that those are

799
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,960
supportable as economic development

800
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,200
investments. So it's kind of we've

801
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,760
broadened the we've gone from the bricks

802
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,160
and mortar of the downtown redo that we

803
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,560
spent 10 years doing to now we're sort

804
00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,720
of I call it the soft tissue. We built

805
00:35:44,720 --> 00:35:47,599
the hard tish, the bones, and and now to

806
00:35:47,599 --> 00:35:49,520
optimize the hard stuff, we want to

807
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,280
really build the soft stuff, the people

808
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,400
stuff. And that's where we're hearing it

809
00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:56,640
resonate really well that that splash

810
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,160
pad, you name any kind of those

811
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,720
amenities, access to the river,

812
00:36:00,720 --> 00:36:03,520
Whitewater Park downtown, you know, all

813
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,880
these kind of amenities, trail access,

814
00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,359
we think those are fair game as part of

815
00:36:09,359 --> 00:36:11,119
an economic development strategy. I

816
00:36:11,119 --> 00:36:12,720
don't know if we've explicitly said that

817
00:36:12,720 --> 00:36:14,480
to you, but I would tell you that it

818
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:15,920
it's meaningful here because they're

819
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:17,119
even putting a quarter of a million

820
00:36:17,119 --> 00:36:18,400
dollars towards it.

821
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,240
>> And I think what what I usually start

822
00:36:20,240 --> 00:36:22,640
with are your existing strengths or

823
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,599
assets and and anything related to

824
00:36:25,599 --> 00:36:27,280
economic development or downtown

825
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,440
revitalization, whatever. And I think,

826
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,599
you know, you have a river, it's

827
00:36:31,599 --> 00:36:34,960
connected to a national park, correct?

828
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,520
And so,

829
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,599
you know, looking at that as an asset

830
00:36:39,599 --> 00:36:42,480
and how you can build on that downtown

831
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,119
to me rings a bell. Like an idea that I

832
00:36:45,119 --> 00:36:48,320
think is very well placed. Things like

833
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,000
splash pads and all of that can actually

834
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:53,520
fit in nicely with trails with river

835
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,640
kaying activity with river access. And

836
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:58,160
so there ways to tie those things

837
00:36:58,160 --> 00:36:59,599
together,

838
00:36:59,599 --> 00:37:00,560
>> make it work.

839
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:01,920
>> And that's what I was going to say too

840
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:03,760
when we're talking about downtown. We as

841
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,680
a council have talked a lot about

842
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,720
um getting access to the river before

843
00:37:10,720 --> 00:37:13,119
other towns around us do it. So that's

844
00:37:13,119 --> 00:37:15,280
super important I think as well and it

845
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,720
will bring families of all ages

846
00:37:18,720 --> 00:37:20,320
together. So I think that that's really

847
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,200
important that you can spend some time

848
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,680
looking at that for us.

849
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:27,200
I was just going to go actually I was

850
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,040
going to go more specifically into the

851
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,760
river talk is that there there's a dam

852
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,280
10 miles downstream that's coming out

853
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:34,880
that will open the river basically from

854
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,200
just the north side of Kent to I don't

855
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:38,560
know what the next dam I don't think

856
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:39,680
exists anymore. I think it's the last

857
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:40,880
dam on the river until you get to the

858
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:42,640
national park. So

859
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:44,240
>> two of the towns downstream of us are

860
00:37:44,240 --> 00:37:45,599
already planning to see what they can do

861
00:37:45,599 --> 00:37:47,280
to capitalize on it. But we're furthest

862
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:49,280
upstream. So, I think we need to be

863
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,119
first of the party and it's like a once

864
00:37:51,119 --> 00:37:54,000
in a generation or once in a lifetime.

865
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:56,000
That dam's been there for 90 years. So,

866
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:57,520
once in a lifetime opportunity to cash

867
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,000
in on what's in our downtown. So, I

868
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,440
think that needs to be a top priority

869
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:04,720
because we don't get this chance again.

870
00:38:04,720 --> 00:38:06,240
>> And it also fits nicely with the

871
00:38:06,240 --> 00:38:09,200
university, you know, having here and

872
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,480
everything else.

873
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:13,040
>> Ben,

874
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:17,200
>> yeah. Uh, couple more comments. Um the

875
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,160
recreation I double down on that. So

876
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,480
like we have the opportunity to invest

877
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,760
in that but we cannot

878
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:27,760
our hands are tied a lot in private

879
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,760
investment and and economic development

880
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,079
in some ways. We can just provide a good

881
00:38:32,079 --> 00:38:34,880
atmosphere for those investments. I was

882
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:36,240
looking over your scope of work and it

883
00:38:36,240 --> 00:38:38,079
doesn't include housing and I know that

884
00:38:38,079 --> 00:38:40,079
we're doing a housing study,

885
00:38:40,079 --> 00:38:43,280
>> but if there was a way to consider the

886
00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:46,560
economics of of adjacency for housing.

887
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:50,880
So I we know anecdotally or I I'll I'll

888
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,040
speak in I terms. I know anecdotally

889
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,440
that more young families want to live in

890
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,720
Kent that are not able to.

891
00:38:58,720 --> 00:39:00,480
Um,

892
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,760
and what does that mean for economic

893
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:07,359
development? Like, uh, and I'm sure the

894
00:39:07,359 --> 00:39:10,400
housing study will illustrate housing

895
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:14,560
stock. We're 60% rental as a town, but a

896
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,880
lot of that rental is students that

897
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,400
attend the university. And so, it's

898
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,960
transient. It's shortterm. Literally,

899
00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,040
it's four years in and out, three years

900
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,240
in and out, less than sometimes. Um,

901
00:39:26,240 --> 00:39:28,240
andor it's moving around. And so there's

902
00:39:28,240 --> 00:39:31,040
not as long of a an investment made by

903
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,359
those uh individuals just because of

904
00:39:33,359 --> 00:39:37,200
time. Um

905
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,160
had one more point and I lost it. It'll

906
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:40,800
come to me.

907
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:42,960
>> It'll come. It'll come.

908
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,200
>> Anybody else?

909
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:49,200
>> It came. Um [laughter] the the

910
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:51,839
short-term rentals like the Airbnbs in

911
00:39:51,839 --> 00:39:53,680
the area

912
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:55,440
are renting to those that are coming to

913
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,640
the national park. So we are in the

914
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,960
concentric circle of people coming for

915
00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:02,960
the national park in addition to other

916
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,640
reasons. So we're already connected to

917
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,400
the national park. people are staying

918
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,320
this far away to visit that national

919
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:14,400
park and we can benefit from that and we

920
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:16,800
can probably say that better because

921
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:18,320
it's already happening and we can

922
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:23,599
probably say that louder and with river

923
00:40:23,599 --> 00:40:26,640
access and direct connection and all the

924
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:28,880
other connective tissue that we could

925
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:30,640
draw. Okay.

926
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,000
>> Because the national park isn't going

927
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,680
anywhere and um and it's really close at

928
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:36,880
hand.

929
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,470
>> Both.

930
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,960
» So, so I would like to um make a few

931
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:45,280
summary statements. That okay,

932
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:48,079
everybody. Okay. First of all, we we

933
00:40:48,079 --> 00:40:50,000
pride ourselves on being unique. We

934
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,599
pride ourselves on being at ahead of the

935
00:40:51,599 --> 00:40:54,240
curve. We developed Kent as a

936
00:40:54,240 --> 00:40:56,560
destination. Unfortunately, a lot of

937
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,040
other communities kind of ripped off

938
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:00,880
some of what we've done and they're

939
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:02,880
trying to replicate it. So, we need to

940
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,880
continue, which is what I heard Ben and

941
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:07,200
several of you saying, to be that

942
00:41:07,200 --> 00:41:09,119
community that thinks ahead, thinks

943
00:41:09,119 --> 00:41:11,359
outside the box. We have a very

944
00:41:11,359 --> 00:41:13,839
committed population here. They love

945
00:41:13,839 --> 00:41:16,000
being here. This is a self-contained

946
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,599
community. And we're we we like to see

947
00:41:19,599 --> 00:41:21,599
ourselves as unique. We value our

948
00:41:21,599 --> 00:41:23,839
diversity.

949
00:41:23,839 --> 00:41:27,359
We value our kind of weirdness

950
00:41:27,359 --> 00:41:29,520
and our vibrancy.

951
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,560
I would when I was first elected to

952
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:36,079
council many years ago, um I took a trip

953
00:41:36,079 --> 00:41:37,760
down to Asheville, North Carolina

954
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,040
because I thought maybe that would be

955
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:41,920
sort of a kind of a community that could

956
00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,800
inspire us. And you know, it's a music

957
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:48,640
town and an art town and I think that

958
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,760
was part of it. And it's a walkable city

959
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,240
and you know it's not necessarily

960
00:41:54,240 --> 00:41:56,160
college town but it has a lot of nature.

961
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,560
People are really into the environment

962
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,280
around it, the trails and everything. Um

963
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:02,880
I loved it there. I don't know what it's

964
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,280
like now after the big floods and stuff,

965
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:09,040
but that seemed to be kind of had our

966
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,200
vibe. Boulder, Colorado was one of our

967
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,400
sister the communities we looked at as

968
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,680
being kind of Kentian or you know some

969
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:19,680
something to something to take off

970
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,319
after. I lived in Santa Cruz, California

971
00:42:22,319 --> 00:42:24,640
before moving here and I said what's the

972
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,079
matter with this town? It could be

973
00:42:26,079 --> 00:42:29,520
another Santa Cruz. So

974
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:33,119
um we do struggle with you know uh

975
00:42:33,119 --> 00:42:34,880
resources

976
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:39,760
but we like to think uh creatively and

977
00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:42,560
you know really be that community that

978
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:44,960
people want to come to and people want

979
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,760
to live here and the housing issue is a

980
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:50,720
big one for me because we do hear people

981
00:42:50,720 --> 00:42:52,560
want to live here once they're here they

982
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,880
never want to go anywhere else. Um, so

983
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:56,560
that's another thing is we need housing

984
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,800
for people that want to trade different

985
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,440
kinds of housing and go somewhere else.

986
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:03,920
Um, and that's that's kind of what I

987
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:05,680
just want to say as a summary because I

988
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,560
think a lot of you hit on many of those

989
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,599
points. Um, we want to continue to build

990
00:43:11,599 --> 00:43:13,440
the soft tissue, but we want to continue

991
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,400
to do to become economically viable and

992
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,839
get more jobs. That is that's important.

993
00:43:19,839 --> 00:43:22,160
Good good jobs. We even found minimum

994
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:25,760
wage jobs are hey help pay

995
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,520
>> you know so anything that can bring that

996
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,480
kind of vibrancy you know we don't want

997
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:34,079
a data center you know we want good jobs

998
00:43:34,079 --> 00:43:36,560
good quality jobs we want to attract

999
00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:40,079
young professionals and newly retireds

1000
00:43:40,079 --> 00:43:42,800
and um

1001
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,960
families families has been a really big

1002
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:47,839
focus in in recently and we've

1003
00:43:47,839 --> 00:43:50,640
discovered that maybe we can we a

1004
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,599
deficit at the family, you know,

1005
00:43:53,599 --> 00:43:56,079
creating experiences for families.

1006
00:43:56,079 --> 00:43:58,079
>> So, did I summarize?

1007
00:43:58,079 --> 00:43:59,760
>> I think so. Did you work on the

1008
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,040
amphitheater um project for Stowe? I see

1009
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,040
Stow here for market potentials and

1010
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:06,640
fiscal impacts for their new

1011
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,240
>> No, it was part of I was part of their

1012
00:44:08,240 --> 00:44:10,160
comprehensive plan

1013
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:13,119
>> and Stow um so I I didn't work on a

1014
00:44:13,119 --> 00:44:16,160
specific it was more of a citywide

1015
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:17,040
>> question there.

1016
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:18,880
>> Creating a new because I know that they

1017
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:22,240
were looking at downtown as a walkable

1018
00:44:22,240 --> 00:44:24,880
for there. So yes, you

1019
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:26,960
>> you were involved in that

1020
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,920
>> in the very early stages of that. Um

1021
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:30,800
again, it was part of their

1022
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:34,319
comprehensive plan probably 25

1023
00:44:34,319 --> 00:44:37,680
years ago, maybe 20 years ago.

1024
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:39,040
>> Most recent work I've done around here

1025
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,119
was in Independence on their economic

1026
00:44:41,119 --> 00:44:45,030
development.

1027
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:46,960
» Heidi, one last comment.

1028
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:47,680
>> Sure.

1029
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,720
>> Sorry. Um, in our packet today is the

1030
00:44:50,720 --> 00:44:52,560
annual report from Main Street Kent. I'm

1031
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:53,839
sure you're going to meet with them, but

1032
00:44:53,839 --> 00:44:57,520
it's an absolute driver for a lot of the

1033
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:00,000
activity and like such a great

1034
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,800
investment from the city and this

1035
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,880
>> uh twoerson

1036
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,839
strong and hundreds of volunteers

1037
00:45:07,839 --> 00:45:12,240
>> at their backs helping to make amazing

1038
00:45:12,240 --> 00:45:15,680
economic activity happening that comes

1039
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:18,960
to this place. And so like

1040
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:23,200
thinking about that and the impact that has had on our community and kind

1041
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,599
of like illustrate their report that I'm

1042
00:45:25,599 --> 00:45:27,760
sure you'll get. So

1043
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:31,990
>> okay, thank you.

1044
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:35,119
» Are we invited to your focus groups?

1045
00:45:35,119 --> 00:45:37,200
>> We report back after the

1046
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:38,800
>> We still have to talk about who's

1047
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:40,640
invited to those, but we'll discuss

1048
00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:42,800
that. Usually the elected officials are

1049
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:44,720
not part of the focus groups unless

1050
00:45:44,720 --> 00:45:46,240
you're

1051
00:45:46,240 --> 00:45:47,119
business, pardon it.

1052
00:45:47,119 --> 00:45:50,160
>> If you have a business, and you're part

1053
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:54,550
of that sector probably

1054
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:56,960
» so I want to thank you for for being

1055
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,760
willing to come and talk to us and keep

1056
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:01,680
bringing it back because it's really a

1057
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:05,200
vital topic to our community and uh you

1058
00:46:05,200 --> 00:46:06,800
know it really links into everything.

1059
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:11,839
>> Yes. And um yeah um

1060
00:46:11,839 --> 00:46:14,480
we one thing is we have realized that we

1061
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,640
are urbanizing. We are a small city

1062
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,560
that's landlocked but we're urbanizing

1063
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:21,280
and and density is becoming something

1064
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:24,319
that people are getting to be okay with.

1065
00:46:24,319 --> 00:46:27,200
Um so we can think about that kind of

1066
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,440
model as well.

1067
00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:31,440
know, um, we're we're we're weaning

1068
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:35,030
people off the parking [laughter]

1069
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,040
and, you know, helping people understand

1070
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:39,119
that if they park somewhere, they can

1071
00:46:39,119 --> 00:46:41,119
walk a few blocks and enjoy the scenery

1072
00:46:41,119 --> 00:46:43,359
along the way and maybe get caught up in

1073
00:46:43,359 --> 00:46:44,319
something fun.

1074
00:46:44,319 --> 00:46:46,960
>> Well, well, often college towns are the

1075
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,040
lead the lead communities for

1076
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:51,040
walkability around the country, as you

1077
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,119
know, having been to Boulder and places

1078
00:46:53,119 --> 00:46:54,560
like that. So,

1079
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,599
>> that's a big part of it. Yeah.

1080
00:46:57,599 --> 00:46:59,280
>> Yeah. Great. Thank you. Hope to meet

1081
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:00,160
with you.

1082
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,480
>> Thank you very much.

1083
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:08,390
>> Nice meeting all of you.

1084
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:18,790
» All right, we have

1085
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,520
housing board was established uh a long

1086
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:22,960
time ago and when it was originally

1087
00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:24,560
established it was actually a quai

1088
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:27,440
judicial board. Uh since there have been

1089
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,839
changes in fair housing law, virtually

1090
00:47:29,839 --> 00:47:32,880
every community moved their fair housing

1091
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,040
uh regulatory compliance to actual fair

1092
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,200
housing agencies that have attorneys and

1093
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,400
specialize in that. But one of the items

1094
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,480
that uh we've we've done actually

1095
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,480
amendments to this adding as you know

1096
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:48,079
protected classes locally um and also

1097
00:47:48,079 --> 00:47:49,760
other things that HUD has required us to

1098
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:51,520
do. But one thing that has remained in

1099
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:53,599
here is of the seven members, five is

1100
00:47:53,599 --> 00:47:55,920
required for a forum and that has become

1101
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,560
a challenge for us. We've had to cancel

1102
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,280
meetings um because we were only could

1103
00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,240
we basically uh could only get four and

1104
00:48:04,240 --> 00:48:06,880
another the last meeting they wanted to

1105
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:10,560
vote on a um basically a a resolution or

1106
00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:12,240
a letter that they wanted to send to the

1107
00:48:12,240 --> 00:48:14,720
state but they only had four. So I am

1108
00:48:14,720 --> 00:48:17,440
here to request that it be changed to

1109
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:20,079
match match Robert's rules basically a

1110
00:48:20,079 --> 00:48:22,160
majority. So the quorum would be four

1111
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:23,599
versus five.

1112
00:48:23,599 --> 00:48:24,880
>> Any questions? Ben?

1113
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,200
>> No question but comment. Having been on

1114
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:30,559
the board I support this.

1115
00:48:30,559 --> 00:48:32,559
>> Anybody else?

1116
00:48:32,559 --> 00:48:38,230
Any any comments from the audience? Don.

1117
00:48:38,240 --> 00:48:41,839
» All right. Back to council. Any any uh

1118
00:48:41,839 --> 00:48:46,160
any motion? I

1119
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:49,040
>> make a motion to approve uh this change

1120
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:52,960
to a majority uh with uh emergency.

1121
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:55,359
>> I'll second.

1122
00:48:55,359 --> 00:48:58,480
>> Any comments from council? Great. All

1123
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,800
those in favor?

1124
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:03,119
>> All those against? Same sign.

1125
00:49:03,119 --> 00:49:03,760
>> Thank you.

1126
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:05,440
>> All right. Passes.

1127
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:10,960
>> And uh the committee is now closed.

1128
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:14,079
>> Uh yes. So, uh, we have Rhonda coming up

1129
00:49:14,079 --> 00:49:17,200
to, um, talk about those, uh, certifying

1130
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,160
and the movement of these unpaid bills

1131
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:23,040
owed to the city of Kent to the county

1132
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:24,160
for collection.

1133
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:24,640
>> Correct.

1134
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:26,880
>> And Rhonda, yes. Before you start,

1135
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:28,880
because I'm kind of confused, Melissa

1136
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:30,960
asked me a question before the meeting

1137
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,680
started. Will these be three different

1138
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,240
ordinances as opposed to just one with

1139
00:49:36,240 --> 00:49:37,359
everything on it?

1140
00:49:37,359 --> 00:49:38,880
>> I think in the past they have been three

1141
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:40,319
separate ordinances. Okay, that's what I

1142
00:49:40,319 --> 00:49:42,640
thought, but I wanted to ask you if So,

1143
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,559
we'll do each one of these separately

1144
00:49:44,559 --> 00:49:47,760
and then I will check.

1145
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:51,829
I think it was three.

1146
00:49:51,839 --> 00:49:54,400
Okay. So, the first one you have um at

1147
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,559
least I don't know in your packet which

1148
00:49:56,559 --> 00:49:58,400
one you have first, but I'm going to do

1149
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,280
the uh concrete sidewalk bills. So,

1150
00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,040
according in accordance with our

1151
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:06,960
codified ordinances 521.06 06 section.

1152
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:10,079
It allows us to certify any unpaid

1153
00:50:10,079 --> 00:50:14,160
sidewalk program um delinquencies. And

1154
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:17,839
so this is the first one of 33,000.

1155
00:50:17,839 --> 00:50:20,240
>> Do you want to reference I know this is

1156
00:50:20,240 --> 00:50:22,800
the end of the pipeline, but you've done

1157
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:24,800
a lot of notification to the people.

1158
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:28,880
You've tried to get them to pay. This is

1159
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:30,640
there. It's not like we're just throwing

1160
00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:32,559
these names on a list. There's been a

1161
00:50:32,559 --> 00:50:34,559
lot of pre-effort to get them to pay.

1162
00:50:34,559 --> 00:50:35,599
Yes.

1163
00:50:35,599 --> 00:50:37,119
>> So,

1164
00:50:37,119 --> 00:50:39,119
each department takes care of their own

1165
00:50:39,119 --> 00:50:42,000
delinquencies, but um we send second

1166
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,160
notices. We've even sent third notices,

1167
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,480
especially for I know utility billing.

1168
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,040
We send the notices with a letter saying

1169
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,599
if you don't pay by X date, your uh

1170
00:50:51,599 --> 00:50:53,280
delinquence is going to be put on your

1171
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,160
property tax bill uh come September. And

1172
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,640
I think it's September 9th that we have

1173
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:02,400
to certify it to the county by. So yeah,

1174
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,720
we do a lot of due diligence and trying

1175
00:51:04,720 --> 00:51:06,960
to get people to know that this is due

1176
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:08,640
to the city and try to get them to pay

1177
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:10,880
in advance of having to put it on the

1178
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,040
property taxes because the county then

1179
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:16,880
puts their fee on top of that. So,

1180
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,680
>> so, uh, questions from council and

1181
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,240
>> yeah, an actual question this time, not

1182
00:51:22,240 --> 00:51:27,599
um, if a resident for the concrete

1183
00:51:27,599 --> 00:51:31,200
program that hasn't paid, is there a

1184
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,599
financial hardship application process?

1185
00:51:33,599 --> 00:51:35,680
>> They've already done that. And so, if a

1186
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:37,599
person is meet certain criteria, they

1187
00:51:37,599 --> 00:51:39,839
either get it for half price or free.

1188
00:51:39,839 --> 00:51:40,480
>> Okay.

1189
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:42,000
>> So, they've already done that before

1190
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:43,359
this whole

1191
00:51:43,359 --> 00:51:44,800
>> Okay. Okay. When they actually apply for

1192
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:46,000
it, you know, when they're when they're

1193
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:47,359
going through and doing the sidewalk

1194
00:51:47,359 --> 00:51:49,359
program, they already are talking with

1195
00:51:49,359 --> 00:51:50,640
each resident about that.

1196
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:52,400
>> Yeah. Thank you.

1197
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,240
>> Any other questions from council?

1198
00:51:54,240 --> 00:51:54,960
>> Sarah.

1199
00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,359
>> Sorry, I'm new. So, I just need to ask

1200
00:51:57,359 --> 00:51:59,440
this question. So mostly because I lost

1201
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,920
my paper, but I'm just going to

1202
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:06,079
>> So when someone needs this program and

1203
00:52:06,079 --> 00:52:09,040
they do they pay anything

1204
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:11,760
upfront or it's only after the fact that

1205
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:15,119
>> we that's usually up to the engineering

1206
00:52:15,119 --> 00:52:17,280
department, but we usually work with the

1207
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,680
individuals to say if you need a payment

1208
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:21,599
plan, we'll work with you that way. We

1209
00:52:21,599 --> 00:52:24,800
don't just say this is what you owe and

1210
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:29,200
it's due upon receipt of the bill.

1211
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:30,960
>> Oh, hi. Uh

1212
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,920
>> oh.

1213
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:37,359
>> Sure. So, you were asking about the uh

1214
00:52:37,359 --> 00:52:38,400
sidewalk program.

1215
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:39,119
>> Yeah.

1216
00:52:39,119 --> 00:52:41,280
>> Okay. So,

1217
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:43,920
the short version is in the codified

1218
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:46,400
ordinances. It's the public the property

1219
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:47,680
owner's responsibility to maintain the

1220
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:52,000
sidewalk. 94 council uh approved a

1221
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:56,000
series of rebates uh discounts for

1222
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,400
hardships for things out of their

1223
00:52:58,400 --> 00:53:01,359
control like tree related issues. And so

1224
00:53:01,359 --> 00:53:03,599
when we go to a street as part of the

1225
00:53:03,599 --> 00:53:05,760
street program, we walk, we assess the

1226
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:09,920
street, uh the sidewalks, we uh

1227
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:11,520
determine which ones need to be repaired

1228
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:13,440
for the safety of the public. Send a

1229
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:15,359
notice to the property owner saying,

1230
00:53:15,359 --> 00:53:16,880
"Hey, in a year we're going to do the

1231
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:20,240
PL, this program, here's the things that

1232
00:53:20,240 --> 00:53:22,640
you are responsible for, and you can

1233
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:24,880
either do it yourself or we'll do it for

1234
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:26,240
you, and here's an estimate of what it

1235
00:53:26,240 --> 00:53:29,200
would cost you. And if you are available

1236
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,520
for these programs, please provide us

1237
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:34,720
the information. Uh in general, anything

1238
00:53:34,720 --> 00:53:37,119
street tree related is free because it's

1239
00:53:37,119 --> 00:53:40,720
not their cause. Uh if they are if it's

1240
00:53:40,720 --> 00:53:43,760
owner occupied residential, they'll get

1241
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,720
50% off anything. And if they're low

1242
00:53:46,720 --> 00:53:48,800
income owner occupied residential, it's

1243
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:49,760
free.

1244
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:51,680
>> Oh, okay. So,

1245
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:53,200
>> did that help?

1246
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:53,760
>> Okay.

1247
00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:56,480
>> Thank you.

1248
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,920
Any other questions from council?

1249
00:53:59,920 --> 00:54:02,000
>> So, can we do a vote on this one? Sure.

1250
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:05,040
One at a time. So, uh, anybody have a

1251
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:06,480
motion for this?

1252
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:07,520
>> Yeah. Emergency.

1253
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:09,440
>> I'll move this section, the annual

1254
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:12,000
concrete repair to for approval.

1255
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,400
>> Any second?

1256
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:14,880
>> With e.

1257
00:54:14,880 --> 00:54:16,079
>> All those in favor?

1258
00:54:16,079 --> 00:54:17,520
>> Oh, I'm sorry. With emergency.

1259
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:18,880
>> With emergency.

1260
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:22,559
Then you second that.

1261
00:54:22,559 --> 00:54:25,440
>> Any other comments or questions?

1262
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:26,880
All those in favor

1263
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:27,839
>> I

1264
00:54:27,839 --> 00:54:29,440
>> oppose

1265
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:30,240
passes.

1266
00:54:30,240 --> 00:54:32,400
>> Okay. Sorry, shouldn't have said that.

1267
00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:35,280
Not my job to say pass.

1268
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:36,400
>> So the next section,

1269
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:38,880
>> the next one is the uh delinquent

1270
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:43,119
nonutility. So this includes um per the

1271
00:54:43,119 --> 00:54:47,920
memo any violation that is uh

1272
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,720
created by the law code enforcers and

1273
00:54:50,720 --> 00:54:52,480
also the health department. So you have

1274
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:54,400
a list for each of the community

1275
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:57,520
development and uh the health department

1276
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:01,359
for their citations slashviolations that

1277
00:55:01,359 --> 00:55:04,319
are going to get sent to the county as

1278
00:55:04,319 --> 00:55:10,390
well.

1279
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:13,359
» Any questions? No. Um back to council

1280
00:55:13,359 --> 00:55:15,680
for a motion.

1281
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:17,200
>> I'll move to authorize with the

1282
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:18,240
emergency.

1283
00:55:18,240 --> 00:55:20,079
>> Second.

1284
00:55:20,079 --> 00:55:22,880
All those in favor.

1285
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:26,160
>> Anybody opposed?

1286
00:55:26,160 --> 00:55:27,760
>> All right. And the last one is the

1287
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:31,359
utility billing um debtors. This is in

1288
00:55:31,359 --> 00:55:33,680
accordance with uh an ordinance that was

1289
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:37,440
passed in 2012.

1290
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:41,359
Ordinance number 2012- 110. It is for

1291
00:55:41,359 --> 00:55:43,440
section 9137,

1292
00:55:43,440 --> 00:55:45,839
915.72,

1293
00:55:45,839 --> 00:55:49,599
921.24, 24 and 935.14

1294
00:55:49,599 --> 00:55:51,599
of the codified ordinances which gives

1295
00:55:51,599 --> 00:55:54,400
us the authority to um send to the

1296
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,920
county any delinquents for water sewer,

1297
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:01,520
solid waste and storm water. And keep in

1298
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:04,400
mind for all three of these, if anybody

1299
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:07,359
pays between now and August 31st, they

1300
00:56:07,359 --> 00:56:09,440
will come off the list. So you will get

1301
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:11,280
a list with the ordinance at the next

1302
00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:12,880
council meeting that'll have the most

1303
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:16,000
recent updated list. But if anybody pays

1304
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,079
even after that date, the list is going

1305
00:56:18,079 --> 00:56:19,680
to change. We will take their name off

1306
00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:23,359
of that list before it gets certified.

1307
00:56:23,359 --> 00:56:26,870
>> And

1308
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:30,319
will they be notified that it or have

1309
00:56:30,319 --> 00:56:32,319
they already been notified that it may

1310
00:56:32,319 --> 00:56:34,319
be referred for a lean

1311
00:56:34,319 --> 00:56:35,440
>> in for what?

1312
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:37,200
>> For the county.

1313
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:40,000
>> Well, we have sent them a letter that

1314
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:41,920
states that if they don't pay by August

1315
00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:42,640
31st,

1316
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:44,880
>> Yeah. Any balance that's due will be

1317
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:46,000
sent to the county.

1318
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,640
>> Okay.

1319
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:50,400
>> Any other gloves, Jeff?

1320
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,559
>> So, I know that this one, the villages

1321
00:56:52,559 --> 00:56:54,400
of Frank Crossing has been whatever it's

1322
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:55,920
been for a while, but it's an

1323
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:57,359
extraordinary amount of money. It's like

1324
00:56:57,359 --> 00:56:59,680
it's $254,000.

1325
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,559
>> Um, and there's some 22,000, some

1326
00:57:02,559 --> 00:57:04,720
11,000. So, this is like an outrageous

1327
00:57:04,720 --> 00:57:06,160
amount of money that could buy some nice

1328
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,720
things. There are ordinances we could

1329
00:57:08,720 --> 00:57:12,400
pass that would be incredibly more harsh

1330
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:14,480
for rental properties that aren't

1331
00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:16,720
keeping up. Like if you're 90 days

1332
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:18,240
behind, your water is shut off in your

1333
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:19,520
building. Now your building's condemned.

1334
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:20,880
So figure it out and pay us.

1335
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:24,000
>> If they're two months delinquent, we're already putting them on a shut off

1336
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:24,480
list.

1337
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:25,839
>> Right. But I know like when we talked

1338
00:57:25,839 --> 00:57:27,280
about the Franklin Crossing, we didn't

1339
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:28,319
want to kick people out before the

1340
00:57:28,319 --> 00:57:30,559
school year ended. And that guy, let's

1341
00:57:30,559 --> 00:57:32,160
you know, for lack of a better term, is

1342
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:33,760
not a very nice guy.

1343
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:36,559
>> Well, I do have some good news. is we uh

1344
00:57:36,559 --> 00:57:37,920
I checked before the meeting today

1345
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:39,440
because I knew she was going to ask.

1346
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:42,319
Sarah's going to ask. Um they have paid

1347
00:57:42,319 --> 00:57:46,960
their bill on the 002 property uh parcel

1348
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:49,680
number. So they have paid the lion's

1349
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:52,240
share of last year's delinquencies that

1350
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,160
we submitted to the county. Okay. The

1351
00:57:54,160 --> 00:57:57,280
001 they still haven't made a payment

1352
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:01,119
since I it was either 2024

1353
00:58:01,119 --> 00:58:03,359
of 48,000 or the beginning of 25 for

1354
00:58:03,359 --> 00:58:05,599
48,000. So, they still owe the county

1355
00:58:05,599 --> 00:58:06,559
quite a bit of money,

1356
00:58:06,559 --> 00:58:06,880
>> right?

1357
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:08,240
>> And the county is going to come before

1358
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:09,760
us.

1359
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:12,240
>> Could we, and I don't know this is

1360
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:15,200
Hope's job, but could we force if if

1361
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:17,119
somebody's in this situation or or has a

1362
00:58:17,119 --> 00:58:18,559
rental like that, you're going to have

1363
00:58:18,559 --> 00:58:21,680
to put up a deposit equivalent to 60

1364
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:23,359
days worth of average water use, you

1365
00:58:23,359 --> 00:58:25,440
know, to the prior tenants. So, that at

1366
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:26,640
the very least when we shut your water

1367
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:29,040
up, we still get our money.

1368
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:30,559
>> I mean, are these just options to

1369
00:58:30,559 --> 00:58:31,920
explore? Like, I don't know. I think

1370
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:35,119
that is I when I work at Hawk Falls uh

1371
00:58:35,119 --> 00:58:38,240
something in my head is niggling me to

1372
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:40,880
say we did that to an extent. I can look

1373
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:41,200
at that.

1374
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:42,640
>> Yeah. I just we don't want to get in the

1375
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:43,520
situation again. So

1376
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:46,640
>> and I think Kent actually had that at

1377
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:48,559
one time where they were requiring

1378
00:58:48,559 --> 00:58:50,799
deposits. I'm not sure what happened to

1379
00:58:50,799 --> 00:58:56,630
the program.

1380
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:58,640
Heidi,

1381
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:01,839
>> correct me if I'm wrong, but number of

1382
00:59:01,839 --> 00:59:06,640
years ago, we we changed who was liable

1383
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:09,119
for the bill to the property owner, the

1384
00:59:09,119 --> 00:59:12,000
land landlord basically versus the

1385
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:16,000
tenant um for um those types of

1386
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:20,240
situations. So, um, the landlord could

1387
00:59:20,240 --> 00:59:24,400
very easily put ask for a deposit from

1388
00:59:24,400 --> 00:59:27,826
their tenants coming in. You know,

1389
00:59:27,826 --> 00:59:32,240
[clears throat] it's it seems like maybe

1390
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:35,359
this just seems to be

1391
00:59:35,359 --> 00:59:36,720
I don't know. So, it looks like a very

1392
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:39,040
high percentage of rental properties are

1393
00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:41,920
here and they probably are feeling

1394
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:43,839
burned from their tenants and they need

1395
00:59:43,839 --> 00:59:46,000
to figure out how to tighten that chip a

1396
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:46,960
little bit more.

1397
00:59:46,960 --> 00:59:49,599
>> And I know that this the currently the

1398
00:59:49,599 --> 00:59:52,319
state is allowing us to charge the

1399
00:59:52,319 --> 00:59:54,319
property owner, but they're looking at

1400
00:59:54,319 --> 00:59:56,319
changing that, not allowing us to charge

1401
00:59:56,319 --> 00:59:58,000
the property owner and making us go

1402
00:59:58,000 --> 00:59:59,520
after the tenant.

1403
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:00,079
>> Of course,

1404
01:00:00,079 --> 01:00:02,799
>> that of course hasn't passed yet. And so

1405
01:00:02,799 --> 01:00:05,280
we'll determine what we have to do if

1406
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:08,240
that ever happens. Hopefully it doesn't.

1407
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:09,760
>> Well, then we would have to definitely

1408
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:11,200
institute some kind of

1409
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:13,599
>> because once a tenant moves out,

1410
01:00:13,599 --> 01:00:16,240
>> it's it's almost near impossible to find

1411
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:17,359
them

1412
01:00:17,359 --> 01:00:19,359
>> unless of course attorney general's

1413
01:00:19,359 --> 01:00:21,040
office is then going to help us with

1414
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:22,319
that.

1415
01:00:22,319 --> 01:00:23,200
>> Yeah,

1416
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,440
>> they do with Medicare. I mean, we had

1417
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:27,920
that similar situation with income taxes

1418
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:29,520
and was one of the motivations for going

1419
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:32,240
with Rita because it gave us access to

1420
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:34,240
their resources,

1421
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:37,359
go after people through the federal tax.

1422
01:00:37,359 --> 01:00:39,440
We as a city, we don't have access to

1423
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:41,040
the federal tax, if I have that correct,

1424
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:43,359
but Rita does. So, Rita could track

1425
01:00:43,359 --> 01:00:45,359
those, I guess, social security numbers,

1426
01:00:45,359 --> 01:00:47,119
whatever, for those people that leave

1427
01:00:47,119 --> 01:00:49,280
here and and don't pay their tax. We

1428
01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:51,119
were out of luck. Rita has helped us

1429
01:00:51,119 --> 01:00:52,960
pretty significantly on that. I would

1430
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:55,119
guess we need a version of that for uh

1431
01:00:55,119 --> 01:00:57,200
water and sewer. But

1432
01:00:57,200 --> 01:00:59,280
>> so any other questions related to moving

1433
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:01,280
this to the county, this particular

1434
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:03,760
line? Anybody?

1435
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:06,160
>> Uh back to you for a motion.

1436
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:08,319
>> I'll move to approve it and report it to

1437
01:01:08,319 --> 01:01:09,760
the county with emergency.

1438
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:12,880
>> With emergency second.

1439
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:14,640
>> There is a emergency.

1440
01:01:14,640 --> 01:01:15,280
>> Okay. Yeah.

1441
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:16,559
>> Any other comments?

1442
01:01:16,559 --> 01:01:18,640
>> Um I actually just have one more. So,

1443
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:22,240
anything that has 002, you're saying

1444
01:01:22,240 --> 01:01:24,880
that they've paid

1445
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:27,760
or let's this is when we get this next

1446
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:29,520
list that's going to come off of this

1447
01:01:29,520 --> 01:01:30,880
paper.

1448
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:33,760
>> Well, that's not even on this. So, and

1449
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:35,359
next year you're saying yes, if they

1450
01:01:35,359 --> 01:01:37,760
continue paying the this will be paid

1451
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:39,599
next year by next year.

1452
01:01:39,599 --> 01:01:41,280
>> Okay.

1453
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:42,799
>> Because what they paid through their

1454
01:01:42,799 --> 01:01:44,799
property taxes now, they actually paid

1455
01:01:44,799 --> 01:01:51,030
it in June. That's for last year's

1456
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:53,359
Any other comments?

1457
01:01:53,359 --> 01:01:55,440
Uh, all those in favor?

1458
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:59,200
>> I Anyone opposed?

1459
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:03,190
>> Thank you.

1460
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:04,640
» All right. And no renew the school

1461
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:06,559
resource officer agreement. Uh, Chief

1462
01:02:06,559 --> 01:02:09,910
Stone.

1463
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:11,920
» As Chief Stone makes his way forward, I

1464
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:13,680
think you'll recognize this is his first

1465
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:16,960
presentation, so a lot of pressure. Uh

1466
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:19,040
we we met all afternoon prepared. No, we

1467
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:20,559
did meet all afternoon. It wasn't on

1468
01:02:20,559 --> 01:02:24,240
this topic. Um but uh I reassured him

1469
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:27,359
that, you know, I think this is a fairly

1470
01:02:27,359 --> 01:02:30,160
popular program. So I don't think you

1471
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:32,319
can mess it up. I think you just go and

1472
01:02:32,319 --> 01:02:33,359
you know, let him know you're going to

1473
01:02:33,359 --> 01:02:35,440
continue it. You'll get a a mini

1474
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:37,280
applause and thank you very much. So

1475
01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:39,119
Chief, anything you want to

1476
01:02:39,119 --> 01:02:41,359
>> Thank you.

1477
01:02:41,359 --> 01:02:44,720
this uh morning to city council. I ask

1478
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:47,760
that we continue our good relationship

1479
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:51,280
with the Kent city schools. I starting

1480
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:53,920
the academic year in the city schools

1481
01:02:53,920 --> 01:02:57,200
with uh patrol officer Dominic Poe of

1482
01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:59,440
the Kent Police Department serving as a

1483
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:02,559
school resource officer. Uh the Kent

1484
01:03:02,559 --> 01:03:05,440
City School District reimbures the city

1485
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:07,599
for the costs of his salary benefits

1486
01:03:07,599 --> 01:03:10,000
during the months that he's there. and I

1487
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:12,079
ask for your favorable approval of this,

1488
01:03:12,079 --> 01:03:13,119
please.

1489
01:03:13,119 --> 01:03:16,720
>> All right. Any questions from councel?

1490
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:18,319
>> There's nobody in the audience. Do we

1491
01:03:18,319 --> 01:03:19,119
have a motion?

1492
01:03:19,119 --> 01:03:21,440
>> I'll make the motion with with

1493
01:03:21,440 --> 01:03:22,880
emergency.

1494
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:24,640
>> Yeah.

1495
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:26,400
>> All those in favor?

1496
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:29,200
>> I opposed.

1497
01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:30,160
Easy peasy.

1498
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:30,880
>> Yeah.

1499
01:03:30,880 --> 01:03:39,430
>> Thank you very much. Thank you.

1500
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:50,390
streets and sidewalks. Mr. Typton,

1501
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:52,400
» it's coming up. I can see North Manowway

1502
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:54,160
Street improvement project right of way

1503
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:55,119
donation.

1504
01:03:55,119 --> 01:03:57,440
>> Thank you. Um, so we're here tonight

1505
01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:00,160
requesting council's approval to accept

1506
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:03,039
the donation of seven easements from

1507
01:04:03,039 --> 01:04:05,119
three parcels from the Davy Tree Expert

1508
01:04:05,119 --> 01:04:07,599
Company in relation to the North Man

1509
01:04:07,599 --> 01:04:10,240
Street project. Two of the easements are

1510
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:11,599
what we call permanent highway

1511
01:04:11,599 --> 01:04:14,480
easements. So they can use that we can

1512
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:16,720
use that land for roads, utilities, or

1513
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:19,520
other things. two two other easements

1514
01:04:19,520 --> 01:04:21,599
are permanent um shared use path

1515
01:04:21,599 --> 01:04:22,880
easements where they're basically for

1516
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:25,119
walkways to get them move them away from

1517
01:04:25,119 --> 01:04:27,200
the roadway and then three others are

1518
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:29,839
temporary easements for us to build the

1519
01:04:29,839 --> 01:04:33,440
project uh as it was designed and put

1520
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:36,880
forth by the publics. So um in order to

1521
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:38,240
complete the project we're going to need

1522
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:40,000
right away from two owners. One's Davy

1523
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:41,440
Tree and the other is Kent City School

1524
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:44,000
District and happy to say both have at

1525
01:04:44,000 --> 01:04:46,319
least verbally agreed to donate and of

1526
01:04:46,319 --> 01:04:48,319
course Davy Tree is signed there. So

1527
01:04:48,319 --> 01:04:49,760
we're here looking for your approval

1528
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:54,150
with the emergency

1529
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:55,680
question. Go ahead.

1530
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:57,200
>> It's not a question. It's a comment. I

1531
01:04:57,200 --> 01:04:58,960
just want to thank the both Davy Tree

1532
01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:00,559
and the Kent City Schools for being such

1533
01:05:00,559 --> 01:05:02,400
great partners and helping us move this

1534
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:04,640
project forward. It's in all of our

1535
01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:08,000
interests, but I appreciate it. Thanks.

1536
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:11,039
>> Thanks. Any more questions

1537
01:05:11,039 --> 01:05:12,880
from council?

1538
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:15,119
Questions? No one's in the audience. So,

1539
01:05:15,119 --> 01:05:18,400
passing it back um for a motion.

1540
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:20,880
>> I'll move to approve with emergency.

1541
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:22,799
>> I'll second with emergency.

1542
01:05:22,799 --> 01:05:25,920
>> Any further comment?

1543
01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:27,280
All those in favor?

1544
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:28,240
>> I I

1545
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:30,559
>> I passes.

1546
01:05:30,559 --> 01:05:32,799
Any opposed item here? I heard

1547
01:05:32,799 --> 01:05:35,119
everybody.

1548
01:05:35,119 --> 01:05:36,960
All right, Jim, thank you for being up

1549
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:39,599
there for the request for city water

1550
01:05:39,599 --> 01:05:44,400
service at 58 5085 State Route 43.

1551
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:47,920
>> So, we received uh a request to provide

1552
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:49,680
water to a location that's outside the

1553
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:51,839
city. Since it's outside the city, it

1554
01:05:51,839 --> 01:05:53,440
requires council's approval. So, we're

1555
01:05:53,440 --> 01:05:55,520
here tonight requesting your approval to

1556
01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:59,520
provide water uh to 5085 State Route 43.

1557
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:01,520
Uh we do not see any problem with

1558
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:06,710
providing them water in that location.

1559
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:07,599
Heidi,

1560
01:06:07,599 --> 01:06:10,240
>> are they in our Jed?

1561
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:12,559
>> They're they're in a Jed. Yes. However,

1562
01:06:12,559 --> 01:06:14,799
>> are they part of our Jed? Have they

1563
01:06:14,799 --> 01:06:17,280
agreed to be part of the Jed?

1564
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:20,000
>> The Jed is only businesses commercial.

1565
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:21,599
Is this a commercial establishment?

1566
01:06:21,599 --> 01:06:27,670
Okay. Then it have to commercial.

1567
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:29,039
» Perhaps

1568
01:06:29,039 --> 01:06:30,400
>> they're not petitioned in, but they

1569
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:31,920
could choose to join it.

1570
01:06:31,920 --> 01:06:40,309
>> They could. That would be something

1571
01:06:40,319 --> 01:06:42,480
» because I thought the purpose of a jet

1572
01:06:42,480 --> 01:06:44,480
was to be able to bring services to the

1573
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:47,440
business in exchange for their income

1574
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:50,799
tax to be divided and and I realize

1575
01:06:50,799 --> 01:06:55,280
Eric's not here, but I I I I'm just it

1576
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:57,680
doesn't seem to be working. And if we

1577
01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:01,119
just provide services without any other

1578
01:07:01,119 --> 01:07:02,319
than they're going to pay us for the

1579
01:07:02,319 --> 01:07:03,280
service,

1580
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:04,880
>> well, they'll be paying for the water,

1581
01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:07,119
but the J purpose is actually to share

1582
01:07:07,119 --> 01:07:09,200
income taxes with townships. Sure.

1583
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:10,880
>> Because they're unincorporated and they

1584
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:11,520
can't.

1585
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:13,760
>> So, it expands our footprint with

1586
01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:16,319
regards to the collection of income tax.

1587
01:07:16,319 --> 01:07:18,720
Um, but at the time that the petitions

1588
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:20,799
are signed and the agreements are

1589
01:07:20,799 --> 01:07:24,480
established, those add to it. So adding

1590
01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:27,280
it to parcels typically it's a question

1591
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:29,119
presented to them of you know are you

1592
01:07:29,119 --> 01:07:31,119
willing and many don't because they're

1593
01:07:31,119 --> 01:07:32,640
they have to be paying income tax and

1594
01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:34,160
they're like what do we get out of it? I

1595
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:36,720
will tell you I've said this before the

1596
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:39,280
jets run here are different than the

1597
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:41,920
jets that I worked on in Summit County.

1598
01:07:41,920 --> 01:07:45,520
The em the M&I monies went towards the

1599
01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:48,480
expansion of infrastructure. These jet

1600
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:50,319
agreements in Franklin and Virtual

1601
01:07:50,319 --> 01:07:52,000
Township were not set up that way. So

1602
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:54,079
incentivizing adding them after this

1603
01:07:54,079 --> 01:07:55,599
agreement has occurred is a bit of a

1604
01:07:55,599 --> 01:07:58,789
challenge.

1605
01:07:58,799 --> 01:08:01,280
» I sort of I kind of sort of understand

1606
01:08:01,280 --> 01:08:06,960
that. Um, but I just I've heard this so often that they don't want to join

1607
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:08,960
the Jed,

1608
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:12,079
but we see maybe this is something for

1609
01:08:12,079 --> 01:08:15,200
the economic development plan um

1610
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:18,000
strategic plan to look at because I

1611
01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:21,440
don't see that it's a that really a

1612
01:08:21,440 --> 01:08:22,239
success.

1613
01:08:22,239 --> 01:08:24,640
>> It is actually it generates Ron can

1614
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:26,880
speak to how much we get from income tax

1615
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:29,199
from the jet that contributes to our

1616
01:08:29,199 --> 01:08:32,799
revenue. So that is a huge it is a

1617
01:08:32,799 --> 01:08:35,120
factor. It's a few hundred,000 a year.

1618
01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:37,520
So it is absolutely worth the time,

1619
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:40,480
>> but not every parcel in the jet boundary

1620
01:08:40,480 --> 01:08:43,199
of the district has signed into be part

1621
01:08:43,199 --> 01:08:44,799
of the jet. And that's the case

1622
01:08:44,799 --> 01:08:48,719
everywhere. There the opportunity to add

1623
01:08:48,719 --> 01:08:51,040
additional parcels typically comes if

1624
01:08:51,040 --> 01:08:53,440
there is a permanent extension of main

1625
01:08:53,440 --> 01:08:57,120
utility lines. And you know that is

1626
01:08:57,120 --> 01:08:58,799
something that Brimfield is working on

1627
01:08:58,799 --> 01:09:00,480
coming up this way, but it is years in

1628
01:09:00,480 --> 01:09:02,080
the making. We actually just had a Jed

1629
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:04,560
meeting today with Brimfield and um

1630
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:05,839
they're going to be talking to the new

1631
01:09:05,839 --> 01:09:07,440
sheets that went in to see if they'll

1632
01:09:07,440 --> 01:09:10,000
sign into the Jed uh for because of the

1633
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:12,080
increase in fire services they need at

1634
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:15,120
the Jed. So it's convincing businesses

1635
01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:17,679
that these additional services are

1636
01:09:17,679 --> 01:09:18,640
needed

1637
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:21,359
>> where this small dentist office may not

1638
01:09:21,359 --> 01:09:23,600
see the benefit of that. They're still

1639
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:25,920
going to be paying for the water, but

1640
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:27,839
there's really not much much else they

1641
01:09:27,839 --> 01:09:29,759
need from the jet.

1642
01:09:29,759 --> 01:09:31,520
>> All right. So, they already have this is

1643
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:34,159
an existing water mane that they can tap

1644
01:09:34,159 --> 01:09:36,960
into. So, we'll get the tap in fees,

1645
01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:37,520
>> correct?

1646
01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:40,000
>> And then we'll also get the the service.

1647
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:41,839
I mean, I want to sell water.

1648
01:09:41,839 --> 01:09:43,440
>> There is a search charge that they will

1649
01:09:43,440 --> 01:09:44,960
pay as well.

1650
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:47,199
>> They have a search charge. Anyone

1651
01:09:47,199 --> 01:09:49,199
outside the city that did not sign the

1652
01:09:49,199 --> 01:09:51,759
original Jed pays a 50% search charge

1653
01:09:51,759 --> 01:09:52,960
for their water

1654
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:56,239
>> for any water they use.

1655
01:09:56,239 --> 01:09:58,080
>> Yeah.

1656
01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:00,880
>> I mean I don't want to not not get a new

1657
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:04,480
customer. I just wonder if there was

1658
01:10:04,480 --> 01:10:07,199
like some other incentives we can build

1659
01:10:07,199 --> 01:10:08,560
into

1660
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:09,040
>> Yeah.

1661
01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:11,679
>> Well, that's what I was going to ask. So

1662
01:10:11,679 --> 01:10:15,360
again new sorry if so they have they pay

1663
01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:19,360
50% this business is going to pay a 50%

1664
01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:22,000
sir charge on the water for forever

1665
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:23,199
>> forever.

1666
01:10:23,199 --> 01:10:24,320
>> So

1667
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:28,800
>> we initially cover the $11,668

1668
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:30,560
or the paid that

1669
01:10:30,560 --> 01:10:31,920
>> and they actually paid a search charge

1670
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:34,000
on that dollar amount as well. If they

1671
01:10:34,000 --> 01:10:35,199
were in the city they would have been

1672
01:10:35,199 --> 01:10:36,480
15% of this.

1673
01:10:36,480 --> 01:10:38,159
>> Okay.

1674
01:10:38,159 --> 01:10:40,239
And and also I guess I would add we did

1675
01:10:40,239 --> 01:10:41,920
not pay for the construction of the

1676
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:43,199
water line down there either.

1677
01:10:43,199 --> 01:10:44,159
>> Yes.

1678
01:10:44,159 --> 01:10:45,520
>> We're providing the water and we're

1679
01:10:45,520 --> 01:10:47,840
going to maintain the line.

1680
01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:51,910
>> So

1681
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:54,480
» is there potential for more customers in

1682
01:10:54,480 --> 01:10:58,480
that same area that we could kind of tap

1683
01:10:58,480 --> 01:10:59,280
into?

1684
01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:01,679
>> Yes, there is.

1685
01:11:01,679 --> 01:11:04,480
>> I know there's a housing development.

1686
01:11:04,480 --> 01:11:06,880
>> The housing development. We provided

1687
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:08,159
water to them.

1688
01:11:08,159 --> 01:11:12,000
>> That's that's that's actually the that's who built the line

1689
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:13,679
>> that now the dentist office can tell you

1690
01:11:13,679 --> 01:11:16,709
to.

1691
01:11:16,719 --> 01:11:18,800
» No, I know that. I know that. Now I'm

1692
01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:20,640
thinking more customers. How can we

1693
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:23,910
expand customers? [laughter]

1694
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:27,120
» Anyone ask [snorts] so anyone can who

1695
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:30,960
wants to tie into our water can present

1696
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:33,520
it and ask for it. Anyone outside the

1697
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:36,480
city can request council's approval to

1698
01:11:36,480 --> 01:11:39,040
tie into our wall.

1699
01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:42,239
You do not have to say yes. [laughter]

1700
01:11:42,239 --> 01:11:44,640
But if we have a water line there,

1701
01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:47,199
>> you also have service area agreements

1702
01:11:47,199 --> 01:11:50,560
with Portage Water. So it's not a

1703
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:53,120
freeforall, but there are opportunities

1704
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:55,760
where it makes more sense to have us

1705
01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:57,679
service somebody than Portage. And you

1706
01:11:57,679 --> 01:11:59,120
actually are studying that, are you not?

1707
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:00,640
Yes, we are studying that in this

1708
01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:03,280
location in this general area so that we

1709
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:06,080
can basically effectively efficiently

1710
01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:09,040
build out this area by either us

1711
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:10,960
providing water or Porsche County

1712
01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:12,800
resources providing water.

1713
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:16,640
>> How long will this take for to to do

1714
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:18,400
>> for this for this particular? They'll

1715
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:20,560
probably have their tap done in the next

1716
01:12:20,560 --> 01:12:21,520
month or so.

1717
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:24,239
>> Oh,

1718
01:12:24,239 --> 01:12:24,719
interesting.

1719
01:12:24,719 --> 01:12:28,709
>> Any further questions?

1720
01:12:28,719 --> 01:12:32,000
Oh, no one in the audience. Um, back to

1721
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:34,960
council for comments.

1722
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:37,120
>> I'll move to approve with emergency.

1723
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:39,040
>> Second.

1724
01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:41,120
>> All those in favor?

1725
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:41,520
>> I.

1726
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:44,320
>> Any opposed?

1727
01:12:44,320 --> 01:12:48,000
>> Thank you. Thank you.