1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:01:23,310 2 00:01:23,310 --> 00:01:26,790 Let's get this show started. 3 00:01:26,790 --> 00:01:28,510 I'm going to go ahead and call to order 4 00:01:28,510 --> 00:01:34,430 this Kerrville city council workshop for August 25, 2026. 5 00:01:34,430 --> 00:01:36,170 Do we have anybody signed up to speak. 6 00:01:36,170 --> 00:01:36,850 No, sir. 7 00:01:36,850 --> 00:01:37,910 Thank you ma'am. 8 00:01:37,910 --> 00:01:41,370 Let's go ahead and start with item, a Mr. Paxton. 9 00:01:41,370 --> 00:01:43,150 Good afternoon, Mayor and council. 10 00:01:43,150 --> 00:01:45,470 I'm actually going to let our animal 11 00:01:45,470 --> 00:01:49,350 control officer, Mr. James Lee, present this to you guys. 12 00:01:49,350 --> 00:01:49,850 All right. 13 00:01:49,850 --> 00:01:50,450 Thank you. 14 00:01:50,450 --> 00:01:55,830 15 00:01:55,830 --> 00:01:59,700 All right Mr. mayor council, how are you. 16 00:01:59,700 --> 00:02:00,580 Good to see you. 17 00:02:00,580 --> 00:02:03,080 I hope to be brief, informative, and if I'm lucky, 18 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:06,540 I might stumble on being entertaining. 19 00:02:06,540 --> 00:02:07,360 All right. 20 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:08,820 Shall we. 21 00:02:08,820 --> 00:02:12,520 All right, so this is a Line, an update of our animal ordinance, 22 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,380 which is section 18 of the ordinance. 23 00:02:15,380 --> 00:02:17,980 Our purpose is to make sure that all of our animal ordinances 24 00:02:17,980 --> 00:02:20,160 are in line with the Texas Health and Safety Code, 25 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:23,700 chapter 821, which is the Texas State animal laws. 26 00:02:23,700 --> 00:02:25,660 Further expanding definitions to avoid 27 00:02:25,660 --> 00:02:27,500 legal ambiguities or loopholes that we 28 00:02:27,500 --> 00:02:30,260 may have had in the past. 29 00:02:30,260 --> 00:02:32,060 Turn it on. 30 00:02:32,060 --> 00:02:35,060 And to better define the rules pertaining 31 00:02:35,060 --> 00:02:38,220 to feral cats and the guidelines for registered feral cat 32 00:02:38,220 --> 00:02:39,780 caregivers. 33 00:02:39,780 --> 00:02:42,700 Here we go. 34 00:02:42,700 --> 00:02:44,720 Sorry technical difficulties up here. 35 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:46,020 No worries. 36 00:02:46,020 --> 00:02:47,520 So you used to have everything done. 37 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,900 So the cover topics will be amended 38 00:02:49,900 --> 00:02:52,880 definitions, ones that we're just changing a little bit. 39 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:56,130 Anything that we've added additional definitions. 40 00:02:56,130 --> 00:03:00,010 Ordinance expansions, things that were ordering ordinance 41 00:03:00,010 --> 00:03:02,010 that maybe were adding something to give 42 00:03:02,010 --> 00:03:03,930 it a little bit more depth. 43 00:03:03,930 --> 00:03:09,370 Terminology terminology changes as well as the feral cat 44 00:03:09,370 --> 00:03:13,230 ordinance updates and the feral cat colony contract, 45 00:03:13,230 --> 00:03:16,330 which we'll get to at the end. 46 00:03:16,330 --> 00:03:16,830 All right. 47 00:03:16,830 --> 00:03:20,390 So some of the definitions that we've amended is abandonment. 48 00:03:20,390 --> 00:03:22,170 We added a fourth subsection to it 49 00:03:22,170 --> 00:03:25,330 that covers abandonment of an animal at a residence 50 00:03:25,330 --> 00:03:26,390 due to a non occupation. 51 00:03:26,390 --> 00:03:27,890 So basically someone moves out of their house 52 00:03:27,890 --> 00:03:29,110 and leaves the animal behind. 53 00:03:29,110 --> 00:03:32,410 We now have something to cover that which we didn't before. 54 00:03:32,410 --> 00:03:35,010 We have updated the definition of at large 55 00:03:35,010 --> 00:03:37,570 to add more details to it, covering what an animal is 56 00:03:37,570 --> 00:03:39,610 considered at large. 57 00:03:39,610 --> 00:03:42,150 By the way, in the Manila Oaks next to you guys, 58 00:03:42,150 --> 00:03:45,230 you'll find a copy of all the animal ordinance updates, 59 00:03:45,230 --> 00:03:47,250 as well as a copy of the CAT contract 60 00:03:47,250 --> 00:03:50,850 for the feral CAT contract. 61 00:03:50,850 --> 00:03:51,610 Cat we. 62 00:03:51,610 --> 00:03:53,040 Under the definition of cat, we've 63 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:57,240 added eight new subsections of defining terminology like you're 64 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,560 tipping feral cat, just ones that we didn't have defined 65 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:04,360 in there, clearly, but now they're subsections under cat 66 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:05,520 dangerous dog. 67 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:08,260 We added subsection 3, which ties it to the state definition. 68 00:04:08,260 --> 00:04:10,640 That's pretty simple. 69 00:04:10,640 --> 00:04:12,860 Requirements for owner of dangerous dog. 70 00:04:12,860 --> 00:04:15,200 We did an Amendment to the insurance policy amount, upping 71 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:19,200 it from 100,000 to 500,000. 72 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,079 Owner we vastly expanded the definition of owner 73 00:04:22,079 --> 00:04:24,800 because ours was kind of woefully 74 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:27,600 under defined compared to other cities. 75 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:29,980 So we've expanded that one quite a bit. 76 00:04:29,980 --> 00:04:33,560 It now covers a larger definition of what ownership can 77 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,800 be, since there's a lot of different ways 78 00:04:35,800 --> 00:04:39,240 that somebody can own an animal commercially 79 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,260 for show emancipated minors, you name it, 80 00:04:42,260 --> 00:04:44,400 it's covered in there now. 81 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,300 Restraint we've covered that better. 82 00:04:47,300 --> 00:04:49,600 It better defines the parameters of what constitutes 83 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:51,830 the restraint of an animal. 84 00:04:51,830 --> 00:04:53,290 And under tethering. 85 00:04:53,290 --> 00:04:56,430 We've added some verbiage pertaining to property limits 86 00:04:56,430 --> 00:04:59,470 because with tethering there's some distance and length 87 00:04:59,470 --> 00:05:00,790 things due to state law. 88 00:05:00,790 --> 00:05:03,470 But if those distance and lengths allow the animal to go 89 00:05:03,470 --> 00:05:06,470 past property limits, we've now added language which covers 90 00:05:06,470 --> 00:05:07,930 that, saying that they can't. 91 00:05:07,930 --> 00:05:10,410 The tether should not let them leave the property line. 92 00:05:10,410 --> 00:05:13,670 93 00:05:13,670 --> 00:05:15,950 Oh, you jumped and jumped back. 94 00:05:15,950 --> 00:05:17,030 There we go. 95 00:05:17,030 --> 00:05:19,310 Additional definitions. 96 00:05:19,310 --> 00:05:20,037 Animal dealer. 97 00:05:20,037 --> 00:05:20,970 We didn't have one for that. 98 00:05:20,970 --> 00:05:22,830 We now have that defined in there. 99 00:05:22,830 --> 00:05:24,130 Animal establishment. 100 00:05:24,130 --> 00:05:25,770 That's for pet stores things like that. 101 00:05:25,770 --> 00:05:27,270 We now have that in there. 102 00:05:27,270 --> 00:05:29,790 Animal exhibition think circus or some type 103 00:05:29,790 --> 00:05:30,990 show where you can have a trained 104 00:05:30,990 --> 00:05:33,790 animals that's now in there. 105 00:05:33,790 --> 00:05:35,217 Animal services facility. 106 00:05:35,217 --> 00:05:36,450 For some reason, we didn't have that. 107 00:05:36,450 --> 00:05:39,370 But now we do assistance animal. 108 00:05:39,370 --> 00:05:40,910 We now have that clearly defined in there 109 00:05:40,910 --> 00:05:44,450 and the term pet animal, which so somebody declares it a pet. 110 00:05:44,450 --> 00:05:47,390 We now have a definition of what that means. 111 00:05:47,390 --> 00:05:49,840 And then the definition for quarantine, which of course, 112 00:05:49,840 --> 00:05:52,500 would be tied to a zoonotic disease or rabies 113 00:05:52,500 --> 00:05:56,100 containment type thing. 114 00:05:56,100 --> 00:05:59,940 Ordinance expansions like that little guy's belly there. 115 00:05:59,940 --> 00:06:03,640 So we have 1831, which is nuisances originally. 116 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:05,740 We are now making it public nuisances. 117 00:06:05,740 --> 00:06:08,220 We've added a couple of subsections to that. 118 00:06:08,220 --> 00:06:11,740 Adding some new clarifications under there of different things 119 00:06:11,740 --> 00:06:14,540 that could be considered nuisances. 120 00:06:14,540 --> 00:06:16,300 Giving us a little bit more enforcement 121 00:06:16,300 --> 00:06:18,060 opportunity on situations that we didn't 122 00:06:18,060 --> 00:06:20,660 have in the past if we need it. 123 00:06:20,660 --> 00:06:23,860 1832 feral cat management. 124 00:06:23,860 --> 00:06:25,900 We've clarified some new rules in there that 125 00:06:25,900 --> 00:06:29,060 will tie to the feral CAT contract, 126 00:06:29,060 --> 00:06:31,700 as well as removing the term community. 127 00:06:31,700 --> 00:06:34,580 There are now feral cats, not community cats. 128 00:06:34,580 --> 00:06:38,340 Legal ambiguity there because community cats assumes that 129 00:06:38,340 --> 00:06:39,880 the community owns these cats. 130 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:40,400 We do not. 131 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,260 They're feral. 132 00:06:43,260 --> 00:06:47,260 1855 requirements for owner of a dangerous dog. 133 00:06:47,260 --> 00:06:49,070 We've expanded that one a little bit too. 134 00:06:49,070 --> 00:06:53,810 Again, that goes back to that insurance policy update. 135 00:06:53,810 --> 00:06:57,590 18 six I'm sorry, 76 animals left in vehicles. 136 00:06:57,590 --> 00:06:58,510 We've updated to that. 137 00:06:58,510 --> 00:07:01,730 We added to the end of it some definitions of what enforcement 138 00:07:01,730 --> 00:07:05,090 officers are now that the city has an animal control officer as 139 00:07:05,090 --> 00:07:08,650 well as oh, we lost our screen there as well 140 00:07:08,650 --> 00:07:10,510 as a bit of definition at the end of it, 141 00:07:10,510 --> 00:07:13,970 clarifying that if you leave an animal in a hot car in a parking 142 00:07:13,970 --> 00:07:16,350 lot and an enforcement officer has to break the window, 143 00:07:16,350 --> 00:07:18,570 in the case of getting the animal out to rescue it, 144 00:07:18,570 --> 00:07:20,610 that it is the responsibility of the owner to deal 145 00:07:20,610 --> 00:07:22,690 with the damage, not the city. 146 00:07:22,690 --> 00:07:24,710 Let me interrupt real quick on that. 147 00:07:24,710 --> 00:07:29,730 Sure you see it too often in town. 148 00:07:29,730 --> 00:07:33,130 Animals left and dogs left in the vehicle with the windows 149 00:07:33,130 --> 00:07:38,610 down or Windows up, and the car running with the owner 150 00:07:38,610 --> 00:07:39,910 in a store somewhere. 151 00:07:39,910 --> 00:07:42,270 Sure at what point. 152 00:07:42,270 --> 00:07:46,330 I mean, obviously, if there's an animal in the vehicle 153 00:07:46,330 --> 00:07:48,470 and it's not running and there's no AC going. 154 00:07:48,470 --> 00:07:50,790 That's obviously a phone call to somebody. 155 00:07:50,790 --> 00:07:56,390 Yep but also, I think I'm not a police officer. 156 00:07:56,390 --> 00:07:57,230 I'm not a lawyer. 157 00:07:57,230 --> 00:07:59,970 But also I think that it says I might 158 00:07:59,970 --> 00:08:02,070 know somebody who was a police officer at one time, but. 159 00:08:02,070 --> 00:08:05,050 160 00:08:05,050 --> 00:08:08,530 If you leave your vehicle running and you're not in it, 161 00:08:08,530 --> 00:08:11,250 that's not really legal either. 162 00:08:11,250 --> 00:08:16,890 Correct I'm unclear or unaware of any law in Texas 163 00:08:16,890 --> 00:08:19,890 that says that you're unable to leave your vehicle 164 00:08:19,890 --> 00:08:21,750 running with you, not in it. 165 00:08:21,750 --> 00:08:23,350 I'm not aware of any law. 166 00:08:23,350 --> 00:08:24,630 I was a police officer for 10 years. 167 00:08:24,630 --> 00:08:26,610 But out in California, not here. 168 00:08:26,610 --> 00:08:29,070 But as far as I in Texas, it's not illegal to do that. 169 00:08:29,070 --> 00:08:30,110 I know a lot of people do that. 170 00:08:30,110 --> 00:08:32,143 They leave their cars on with their air conditioners running. 171 00:08:32,143 --> 00:08:33,289 That's fine. 172 00:08:33,289 --> 00:08:37,169 Remote start, I understand, but anyway, 173 00:08:37,169 --> 00:08:39,090 at what point does that become something 174 00:08:39,090 --> 00:08:42,429 that needs to be a concern of a citizen or anybody sees it. 175 00:08:42,429 --> 00:08:45,260 Even if the windows are up in the car's running right. 176 00:08:45,260 --> 00:08:47,980 So you don't know if the AC is actually on or not. 177 00:08:47,980 --> 00:08:49,760 Sure, we do have defined actually 178 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,780 in that subsection certain temperature degrees. 179 00:08:52,780 --> 00:08:55,480 So 75 degrees or higher within the car 180 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,060 starts to become a concern. 181 00:08:57,060 --> 00:08:58,400 Now the animal obviously isn't going 182 00:08:58,400 --> 00:08:59,920 to be distressed right away. 183 00:08:59,920 --> 00:09:03,420 However, over time at anything above that temperature, 184 00:09:03,420 --> 00:09:05,220 it will be within a danger zone. 185 00:09:05,220 --> 00:09:06,880 And so that's why we carry or at least 186 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:10,100 I carry a thermal thermometer in my vehicle. 187 00:09:10,100 --> 00:09:12,380 So if I get a call saying, hey, there's a dog over here, 188 00:09:12,380 --> 00:09:14,840 I can shoot a temperature inside that car 189 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:16,753 immediately, know what temperature it is, 190 00:09:16,753 --> 00:09:18,320 and then I can look at the condition of the dog 191 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,200 based on my training and say, OK, I'm seeing 192 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:23,520 signs of health concern or not. 193 00:09:23,520 --> 00:09:26,280 That will then tell me, OK, how much time do I have 194 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:27,860 to work with this situation. 195 00:09:27,860 --> 00:09:29,720 Is it a break the window, get the animal out right away 196 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:30,660 for its care. 197 00:09:30,660 --> 00:09:31,420 Or is it OK. 198 00:09:31,420 --> 00:09:33,280 Now we can go inside the store and make an announcement 199 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,880 and try and get an owner out here and deal with this. 200 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:40,760 So we use those kind of informed sections of script 201 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:43,510 to follow to say, OK, this is what we're going to do based 202 00:09:43,510 --> 00:09:45,470 on the amount of time we have and the temperature and the 203 00:09:45,470 --> 00:09:48,510 condition of the animal. 204 00:09:48,510 --> 00:09:49,710 Does that answer your question. 205 00:09:49,710 --> 00:09:50,250 Yes, sir. 206 00:09:50,250 --> 00:09:53,270 OK thank you. 207 00:09:53,270 --> 00:09:56,250 1877 animals and trucks and trailers. 208 00:09:56,250 --> 00:09:59,490 So that again talks to a bit of that as well. 209 00:09:59,490 --> 00:10:01,150 If we added some stuff in there, just again 210 00:10:01,150 --> 00:10:03,410 to clarify those languages. 211 00:10:03,410 --> 00:10:05,150 And when they can be in trucks and trailers 212 00:10:05,150 --> 00:10:07,750 and how they can be in the backs of trucks or trailers 213 00:10:07,750 --> 00:10:10,290 or can't be and how they have to be secured, 214 00:10:10,290 --> 00:10:12,430 all those types of things. 215 00:10:12,430 --> 00:10:18,190 1891 covers foul that section for the chickens we 216 00:10:18,190 --> 00:10:21,590 allow in the city kind of was. 217 00:10:21,590 --> 00:10:24,970 It was under-defined as how to keep the chickens. 218 00:10:24,970 --> 00:10:27,030 So we've added sections to the back of that to make sure 219 00:10:27,030 --> 00:10:28,817 that the chickens are secured. 220 00:10:28,817 --> 00:10:30,250 They're not just running out in the street, 221 00:10:30,250 --> 00:10:33,470 which you will commonly see in the Doyle district area, 222 00:10:33,470 --> 00:10:35,830 that those things have to be kept in the back yard, not 223 00:10:35,830 --> 00:10:36,610 the front yard. 224 00:10:36,610 --> 00:10:38,530 So it's not an eyesore in the front. 225 00:10:38,530 --> 00:10:39,700 All those types of things are now 226 00:10:39,700 --> 00:10:41,220 to find that those cages are again 227 00:10:41,220 --> 00:10:42,940 of adequate size for the animals so that they're 228 00:10:42,940 --> 00:10:44,320 not being tortured by it. 229 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:45,860 Those types of things are all now included 230 00:10:45,860 --> 00:10:46,840 and specified in there. 231 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:51,020 To make that a little bit clearer for chicken owners. 232 00:10:51,020 --> 00:10:53,200 Rabbits 1891. 233 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:54,580 We added just a little bit of language 234 00:10:54,580 --> 00:10:58,460 for both rabbits and ferrets pertaining 235 00:10:58,460 --> 00:11:00,540 to the conditions or things that can come 236 00:11:00,540 --> 00:11:02,660 out of the keeping of those. 237 00:11:02,660 --> 00:11:05,040 That would make it some type of nuisance. 238 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:08,080 So if I look it up, I'm going to forget. 239 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:12,500 But it was stuff like water, dust, splashing smells, things 240 00:11:12,500 --> 00:11:14,620 that could come from the keeping of those 241 00:11:14,620 --> 00:11:16,660 that if they're not being maintained well, 242 00:11:16,660 --> 00:11:18,900 would cause a nuisance and then allow us to then step in 243 00:11:18,900 --> 00:11:20,340 and say, OK, you need to change what you're 244 00:11:20,340 --> 00:11:21,880 doing here with your animals. 245 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,340 But it's pretty much the same for both rabbits 246 00:11:24,340 --> 00:11:25,600 and ferrets and chicken. 247 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:27,980 It was added actually to all three. 248 00:11:27,980 --> 00:11:29,560 So that's our expansions. 249 00:11:29,560 --> 00:11:30,800 And then terminology changes. 250 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:32,520 So again, I kind of covered that earlier. 251 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:34,940 Community cats will now be feral cats due to 252 00:11:34,940 --> 00:11:37,620 the legal terminology of that. 253 00:11:37,620 --> 00:11:38,710 Not a real big deal. 254 00:11:38,710 --> 00:11:41,530 And then of course, feral cat will change as well 255 00:11:41,530 --> 00:11:46,210 and start a community cat caregiver. 256 00:11:46,210 --> 00:11:48,070 Feral cat management ordinance update. 257 00:11:48,070 --> 00:11:50,270 So we did change that section a bit. 258 00:11:50,270 --> 00:11:53,090 It lacked refinement of measurable markers 259 00:11:53,090 --> 00:11:55,250 to hold registered caregivers accountable for 260 00:11:55,250 --> 00:11:57,130 the needed program standards. 261 00:11:57,130 --> 00:12:01,570 The whole standard behind having feral cat colonies 262 00:12:01,570 --> 00:12:05,250 is to stop the breeding of these animals, which means we need 263 00:12:05,250 --> 00:12:07,110 to trap neuter these animals. 264 00:12:07,110 --> 00:12:09,230 We need to get them vaccinated, we need to return them, 265 00:12:09,230 --> 00:12:10,850 but they also need to be controlled 266 00:12:10,850 --> 00:12:12,750 so that they're not in businesses, 267 00:12:12,750 --> 00:12:13,870 they're not in the parking lots. 268 00:12:13,870 --> 00:12:16,290 They're not being fed on someone else's property. 269 00:12:16,290 --> 00:12:17,690 All those types of things, those things 270 00:12:17,690 --> 00:12:19,970 have now been added to standards. 271 00:12:19,970 --> 00:12:22,690 And then you can see down here addition 272 00:12:22,690 --> 00:12:25,570 of several subsections clearly defined in the guidelines 273 00:12:25,570 --> 00:12:26,730 of the colonies. 274 00:12:26,730 --> 00:12:29,650 Also adds enforcement measures for us should 275 00:12:29,650 --> 00:12:31,730 the compliance continually fail to meet 276 00:12:31,730 --> 00:12:34,210 the standards that we set. 277 00:12:34,210 --> 00:12:37,280 They also help us make sure that the management of this program 278 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:39,620 is successful because we want it to be successful. 279 00:12:39,620 --> 00:12:41,860 We want to control the population of the feral cats, 280 00:12:41,860 --> 00:12:43,320 but also we want to take care of the cats. 281 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:44,420 We don't want to be mean to them. 282 00:12:44,420 --> 00:12:45,960 We don't want to have to euthanize them. 283 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,260 We want to be able to take care of those. 284 00:12:48,260 --> 00:12:49,880 And especially for our caregivers 285 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:53,460 who spend a lot of their time to help these animals, 286 00:12:53,460 --> 00:12:55,580 a lot of their money to get them spayed and neutered. 287 00:12:55,580 --> 00:12:58,040 But we need to manage it carefully for the program 288 00:12:58,040 --> 00:12:59,400 to be successful. 289 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:02,000 So that's what these new ordinances do, 290 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,080 is put tighter guidelines on that to make sure 291 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:05,360 that we can make sure it's successful 292 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:09,280 and that they're following those guidelines. 293 00:13:09,280 --> 00:13:10,860 The feral cat colony contract. 294 00:13:10,860 --> 00:13:15,280 So currently we had what we called the Community cat 295 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:18,620 registry, which is where anyone could just sign up and say, 296 00:13:18,620 --> 00:13:20,120 I'm going to feed the cats because it 297 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,420 is against our ordinance to feed feral cats. 298 00:13:22,420 --> 00:13:23,953 However, if somebody signed one of these, 299 00:13:23,953 --> 00:13:25,720 they could just go to wherever these cats were living 300 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:27,240 and start feeding them. 301 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,200 That held them to no standards like the ones 302 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:30,180 I just talked about. 303 00:13:30,180 --> 00:13:31,560 They could do it wherever the cats were, 304 00:13:31,560 --> 00:13:33,060 or whether it was on someone else's property. 305 00:13:33,060 --> 00:13:37,030 Someone's parking lot along the river, wherever it might be. 306 00:13:37,030 --> 00:13:40,230 This turns it into a contract with the city. 307 00:13:40,230 --> 00:13:43,570 And it specifies all the rules, regulations, 308 00:13:43,570 --> 00:13:46,870 and measurable timelines needed to manage these colonies 309 00:13:46,870 --> 00:13:49,150 correctly, as well as the oversight measurements 310 00:13:49,150 --> 00:13:52,470 that I will have, to have enforcement measurements 311 00:13:52,470 --> 00:13:54,450 so that if they are not following these guidelines, 312 00:13:54,450 --> 00:13:56,190 if they're not meeting these deadlines, 313 00:13:56,190 --> 00:13:57,950 if they're doing things they shouldn't in places 314 00:13:57,950 --> 00:14:00,110 they shouldn't, we now have enforcement 315 00:14:00,110 --> 00:14:01,890 standard to correct that. 316 00:14:01,890 --> 00:14:05,990 317 00:14:05,990 --> 00:14:08,790 These are community partners, of course, Kerrville 318 00:14:08,790 --> 00:14:10,950 pets alive and the big fix. 319 00:14:10,950 --> 00:14:14,010 They're instrumental in all of our pet stuff within the city. 320 00:14:14,010 --> 00:14:15,750 They're great community partners. 321 00:14:15,750 --> 00:14:17,470 I love working with them. 322 00:14:17,470 --> 00:14:20,670 I was able to go over all these things with them ahead of time 323 00:14:20,670 --> 00:14:23,190 and get their feedback, and it was 324 00:14:23,190 --> 00:14:25,110 overwhelmingly pretty positive to get 325 00:14:25,110 --> 00:14:26,910 their support, which was great. 326 00:14:26,910 --> 00:14:28,530 They want these programs to work as well, 327 00:14:28,530 --> 00:14:31,150 and I think that they understood pretty clearly that if we don't 328 00:14:31,150 --> 00:14:34,020 manage it correctly using these new guidelines that it will 329 00:14:34,020 --> 00:14:35,780 fail, and then the city and the state 330 00:14:35,780 --> 00:14:38,940 would have no you, no option but to revert to old ways, which 331 00:14:38,940 --> 00:14:40,640 was just euthanized en masse. 332 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:44,620 So they're pretty happy with that. 333 00:14:44,620 --> 00:14:45,840 Some of them are here tonight. 334 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:47,980 Thank you guys for being here. 335 00:14:47,980 --> 00:14:48,480 All right. 336 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:51,300 So next steps city council. 337 00:14:51,300 --> 00:14:51,960 There we go. 338 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:55,820 So we have our if everything successful tonight we'll have 339 00:14:55,820 --> 00:14:59,300 our readings in September their eighth and 22nd where 340 00:14:59,300 --> 00:15:00,900 you guys can vote on that. 341 00:15:00,900 --> 00:15:03,480 And then we'll pause here for questions. 342 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,700 343 00:15:06,700 --> 00:15:09,280 Like I said I'll accidentally stumble into being entertaining. 344 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:11,780 It's not on purpose, I assure you. 345 00:15:11,780 --> 00:15:12,840 Could you tell me your name. 346 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:14,500 Because I don't know that I've met you. 347 00:15:14,500 --> 00:15:15,700 I don't think we have. 348 00:15:15,700 --> 00:15:17,880 My name is James Lee, Officer James Lee. 349 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,740 350 00:15:20,740 --> 00:15:21,920 And When it's time. 351 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:23,040 I'll have some questions. 352 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:24,960 Absolutely right now is the time. 353 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:25,680 Please OK. 354 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:27,400 So this is wonderful. 355 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:28,560 This makes me feel better. 356 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:29,920 I mean, it helps me sleep at night. 357 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:30,790 I love animals. 358 00:15:30,790 --> 00:15:33,410 I have animals, I love the pets. 359 00:15:33,410 --> 00:15:34,630 Pets alive organization. 360 00:15:34,630 --> 00:15:36,830 I think they do wonderful things in our community. 361 00:15:36,830 --> 00:15:41,050 But I do have a concern since we have the County who does. 362 00:15:41,050 --> 00:15:43,210 I would say maybe something totally different 363 00:15:43,210 --> 00:15:44,790 or not at all like this. 364 00:15:44,790 --> 00:15:48,590 And I'm concerned that we're doing a part of things well, 365 00:15:48,590 --> 00:15:51,470 but the big picture needs some attention. 366 00:15:51,470 --> 00:15:55,710 Sure I would love your advice as to what would be my next step. 367 00:15:55,710 --> 00:15:59,050 I plan to take a tour of the County animal shelter, which 368 00:15:59,050 --> 00:16:04,310 I actually have not had yet, and just see how things work there. 369 00:16:04,310 --> 00:16:06,410 But I was going to actually ask someone to chauffeur 370 00:16:06,410 --> 00:16:08,390 me around and just not walk in. 371 00:16:08,390 --> 00:16:12,010 But do you have any comments about that your relationship 372 00:16:12,010 --> 00:16:17,570 with them, and has it been a good working relationship 373 00:16:17,570 --> 00:16:19,810 or has it had some challenges. 374 00:16:19,810 --> 00:16:20,830 Absolutely no. 375 00:16:20,830 --> 00:16:21,750 Since day one. 376 00:16:21,750 --> 00:16:23,610 I recognize coming into this position 377 00:16:23,610 --> 00:16:25,570 that the partnerships with our community partners 378 00:16:25,570 --> 00:16:28,700 like Kerrville, pets alive, big fix, as well as the County. 379 00:16:28,700 --> 00:16:31,200 We're going to be absolutely important because none of us 380 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,600 are equipped manpowered none of us 381 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:36,220 have enough to do this on our own. 382 00:16:36,220 --> 00:16:40,120 We have to work as a team or this won't work. 383 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,800 I am a state certified animal control officer. 384 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:44,580 I can do all the things that they can do. 385 00:16:44,580 --> 00:16:47,920 However, my duties here have been focused more on the animal 386 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:50,280 ordinance side, which is actually worked out really 387 00:16:50,280 --> 00:16:52,040 quite well with them, whereas they're focused 388 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:53,660 on the regular side of things. 389 00:16:53,660 --> 00:16:56,160 And so we kind of team up and we will commonly go to calls 390 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,220 together to where I can hit things from the ordinance side, 391 00:16:59,220 --> 00:17:01,660 and they can hit things from the criminal side if needed. 392 00:17:01,660 --> 00:17:03,840 And we do that a lot. 393 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,119 I actually backed up an animal control officer for the County 394 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:06,700 today. 395 00:17:06,700 --> 00:17:07,980 I was actually out doing code work, 396 00:17:07,980 --> 00:17:09,960 follow up for the code enforcement department, 397 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:12,140 and I saw an animal officer out on a call, 398 00:17:12,140 --> 00:17:14,619 and she was all alone, and she was out with two individuals. 399 00:17:14,619 --> 00:17:16,599 One of them was holding a knife. 400 00:17:16,599 --> 00:17:19,359 It was just a tree saw branch, but he wasn't 401 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:20,380 holding it to be threatening. 402 00:17:20,380 --> 00:17:22,980 He just didn't realize he was still holding it, but I stopped, 403 00:17:22,980 --> 00:17:26,000 I got out, I backed her up, I asked him to drop it and he did. 404 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:27,950 And then we were able to continue the call 405 00:17:27,950 --> 00:17:29,510 and everything went just fine. 406 00:17:29,510 --> 00:17:31,650 But she was very grateful for that. 407 00:17:31,650 --> 00:17:34,550 So it's one of those situations where we're going to partner as 408 00:17:34,550 --> 00:17:37,070 much as possible to create the best 409 00:17:37,070 --> 00:17:41,190 animal situation in the County that we can for city or County. 410 00:17:41,190 --> 00:17:44,230 I would say our relationships have been very, very strong. 411 00:17:44,230 --> 00:17:45,670 The Constable who runs the program 412 00:17:45,670 --> 00:17:47,010 over there, Reagan Gibbons, lives 413 00:17:47,010 --> 00:17:48,010 right down the street from me. 414 00:17:48,010 --> 00:17:50,990 We're actually friends, so that helps a lot, too. 415 00:17:50,990 --> 00:17:55,070 My partnership with the police department has been very good. 416 00:17:55,070 --> 00:17:56,950 Chief Gerald actually was the chief 417 00:17:56,950 --> 00:17:59,150 in the city I used to live in at the same time 418 00:17:59,150 --> 00:18:02,370 when I was a police officer there, but for a different city. 419 00:18:02,370 --> 00:18:05,150 We didn't even realize it until we moved however many states 420 00:18:05,150 --> 00:18:07,410 away and lived here and met. 421 00:18:07,410 --> 00:18:09,090 So we have a great relationship now too. 422 00:18:09,090 --> 00:18:13,430 So far all the partnerships have been extremely, extremely good. 423 00:18:13,430 --> 00:18:14,450 Really good to hear. 424 00:18:14,450 --> 00:18:15,770 Yeah thank you very much. 425 00:18:15,770 --> 00:18:18,270 This is great. 426 00:18:18,270 --> 00:18:24,170 Yes, sir Mr. yes. 427 00:18:24,170 --> 00:18:27,540 428 00:18:27,540 --> 00:18:32,160 So to echo what Dylan said, I think Kerrville, 429 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:35,820 pets alive and the big fix do. 430 00:18:35,820 --> 00:18:37,440 Excellent work in our community. 431 00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:42,500 But I think you have bad actors in the community who are not 432 00:18:42,500 --> 00:18:44,720 necessarily giving them a bad name, 433 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,900 but are negating the work that they're doing. 434 00:18:47,900 --> 00:18:56,500 So I just have some questions on the feeding and the areas 435 00:18:56,500 --> 00:19:00,200 25 yards away from any parking lot or commercial building. 436 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,820 Is that whichever is furthest. 437 00:19:03,820 --> 00:19:07,940 Yes the goal is to keep the animals away from the parking 438 00:19:07,940 --> 00:19:08,960 lot for their own safety. 439 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:10,780 So don't get run over by cars, but also 440 00:19:10,780 --> 00:19:13,120 to keep them away from the businesses and the people. 441 00:19:13,120 --> 00:19:15,480 Obviously, if they're running food establishments, 442 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,660 let's say we don't want them there because there's 443 00:19:17,660 --> 00:19:19,100 a health concern. 444 00:19:19,100 --> 00:19:21,540 And it could be disruptive to the business 445 00:19:21,540 --> 00:19:24,530 if they're begging or doing things that animals 446 00:19:24,530 --> 00:19:26,270 do, those types of deals. 447 00:19:26,270 --> 00:19:28,170 So all these rules again that you're 448 00:19:28,170 --> 00:19:29,450 seeing they're in the contract, these 449 00:19:29,450 --> 00:19:32,890 are rules to address things that are currently happening, to stop 450 00:19:32,890 --> 00:19:35,570 them from happening and give US enforcement options 451 00:19:35,570 --> 00:19:38,690 against groups, as you said, that are bad actors that aren't 452 00:19:38,690 --> 00:19:39,950 following these guidelines. 453 00:19:39,950 --> 00:19:42,870 But hopefully moving forward as well. 454 00:19:42,870 --> 00:19:45,330 Any new colonies and things will they'll 455 00:19:45,330 --> 00:19:46,270 know these rules up front. 456 00:19:46,270 --> 00:19:47,610 The public education will be there 457 00:19:47,610 --> 00:19:49,830 through me because everything will have to roll through me. 458 00:19:49,830 --> 00:19:53,190 So I will approve of these colonies based on those rules. 459 00:19:53,190 --> 00:19:54,670 Is it this far from a business. 460 00:19:54,670 --> 00:19:57,210 Is it on private land that you own or have permission to. 461 00:19:57,210 --> 00:19:57,710 Is it. 462 00:19:57,710 --> 00:20:00,170 We'll go through all that before the city 463 00:20:00,170 --> 00:20:02,230 ever agrees to sign a contract with them, 464 00:20:02,230 --> 00:20:03,470 allowing them to do this. 465 00:20:03,470 --> 00:20:12,210 Is there a fine or not registering as a colony. 466 00:20:12,210 --> 00:20:14,370 There isn't currently, no. 467 00:20:14,370 --> 00:20:17,770 There's no existing fine other than they would be violating 468 00:20:17,770 --> 00:20:20,090 the city ordinance of feeding feral cats 469 00:20:20,090 --> 00:20:21,620 if it's within city limits. 470 00:20:21,620 --> 00:20:22,980 In which case, yes, we could. 471 00:20:22,980 --> 00:20:25,080 Then we have a process that we go through in the code 472 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:27,520 department, which is where animal control falls right now, 473 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,020 where there's a three Warning system. 474 00:20:29,020 --> 00:20:30,507 They're warned once we check back in a week, 475 00:20:30,507 --> 00:20:31,640 if they're still doing it, they're 476 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,900 warned again on the third one is a final Warning. 477 00:20:33,900 --> 00:20:35,300 And then it's a citation. 478 00:20:35,300 --> 00:20:38,820 That citation can be anywhere from $200 up to way to $2,000, 479 00:20:38,820 --> 00:20:42,280 depending on the judge and the grievance of how many 480 00:20:42,280 --> 00:20:43,680 times and what they're doing. 481 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,480 OK, so that would be the process we would currently 482 00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,320 follow to punish somebody who's just refusing 483 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:52,840 to go along with the rules. 484 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:54,360 I would like to make a suggestion 485 00:20:54,360 --> 00:21:00,380 on this contract that having had to deal with this myself. 486 00:21:00,380 --> 00:21:08,460 Yes, anyone can sign this last page and say yes, I apologize. 487 00:21:08,460 --> 00:21:09,100 That's all right. 488 00:21:09,100 --> 00:21:13,320 489 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:17,200 Time to pick up my child from school. 490 00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:24,840 So being that anyone can say, yes, this property 491 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:26,780 has allowed me to feed these cats. 492 00:21:26,780 --> 00:21:31,600 I think the property owner should have somewhere on here 493 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:39,080 saying that they're allowing this person to do so. 494 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,080 And that's why this will filter through me now 495 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,100 as the sole manager of the program, 496 00:21:45,100 --> 00:21:47,320 when they come to ask for one of these. 497 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,740 I am the one who will vet all that with them. 498 00:21:49,740 --> 00:21:51,580 So then you're going to call the property owner. 499 00:21:51,580 --> 00:21:52,380 Exactly OK. 500 00:21:52,380 --> 00:21:55,500 They will have to provide that permission via phone call, 501 00:21:55,500 --> 00:21:57,880 or I'll have to go out and look at it, whatever it might be. 502 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,400 That will all go through me to vet all that before they're 503 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:01,500 allowed to sign this. 504 00:22:01,500 --> 00:22:08,440 And then I think 15 cats is too much. 505 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:10,380 Yeah having seen it in person. 506 00:22:10,380 --> 00:22:12,760 Sure it's a lot. 507 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:15,360 And I know there's ones in the past. 508 00:22:15,360 --> 00:22:17,590 Some of the ones that are grandfathered currently 509 00:22:17,590 --> 00:22:19,870 have many, many more than that. 510 00:22:19,870 --> 00:22:22,190 And so that was the thing is we didn't 511 00:22:22,190 --> 00:22:23,970 really know where to draw the line, 512 00:22:23,970 --> 00:22:26,050 what we went back and forth. 513 00:22:26,050 --> 00:22:28,370 Do we make it a dozen, do we make it 15, do we make it this, 514 00:22:28,370 --> 00:22:29,050 do we make it that. 515 00:22:29,050 --> 00:22:31,890 So we came up with that number arbitrarily. 516 00:22:31,890 --> 00:22:35,710 We thought, what could one person reasonably manage. 517 00:22:35,710 --> 00:22:38,790 Like how many cats in an area 15 kind of 518 00:22:38,790 --> 00:22:40,870 seemed like a reasonable number, like, OK, 519 00:22:40,870 --> 00:22:43,710 that's a reasonable amount of cats to manage as far as one 520 00:22:43,710 --> 00:22:47,310 person and maybe a backup because they are allowed to sign 521 00:22:47,310 --> 00:22:49,190 a backup person on here in case they fall ill 522 00:22:49,190 --> 00:22:51,550 or in the hospital, they can have a second signatory 523 00:22:51,550 --> 00:22:54,790 here as a backup that we put on the sheet, the registration 524 00:22:54,790 --> 00:22:56,610 sheet, so that if something happens to them, 525 00:22:56,610 --> 00:22:59,070 the duties immediately fall to that next person. 526 00:22:59,070 --> 00:23:01,250 So that's where we were at with the 15. 527 00:23:01,250 --> 00:23:02,450 But it is arbitrary. 528 00:23:02,450 --> 00:23:03,490 It can be changed. 529 00:23:03,490 --> 00:23:04,570 It's not hard. 530 00:23:04,570 --> 00:23:07,610 It's just what we came up with that we thought was reasonable. 531 00:23:07,610 --> 00:23:11,430 532 00:23:11,430 --> 00:23:11,990 Thank you. 533 00:23:11,990 --> 00:23:12,490 You're welcome. 534 00:23:12,490 --> 00:23:15,380 And thank you all Kerrville pets alive and the big 535 00:23:15,380 --> 00:23:16,520 fix for all y'all to. 536 00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,660 537 00:23:19,660 --> 00:23:21,860 Go ahead. 538 00:23:21,860 --> 00:23:27,140 Officer Lee on council member Smith's question. 539 00:23:27,140 --> 00:23:31,500 I know of a colony, Brenda of the colony I'm talking about off 540 00:23:31,500 --> 00:23:34,220 of rolling green and Birkdale. 541 00:23:34,220 --> 00:23:35,760 It's not on somebody's property. 542 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:39,440 It's actually in a easement where camp meeting Creek is. 543 00:23:39,440 --> 00:23:41,840 So it's basically state. 544 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,940 Waterway state. 545 00:23:43,940 --> 00:23:44,860 How would you go. 546 00:23:44,860 --> 00:23:47,660 I mean, it's established the cats are all clipped and snipped 547 00:23:47,660 --> 00:23:49,720 and spayed and taken care of. 548 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:50,760 But how would you go. 549 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:54,260 Would you have to call the state to say, hey, there's a cat 550 00:23:54,260 --> 00:23:56,340 colony on state property, or would 551 00:23:56,340 --> 00:23:59,360 you just go the closest person that's taking care of them. 552 00:23:59,360 --> 00:24:02,480 Yeah if it's uncontrolled land like that belongs to the state. 553 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:05,340 Yeah, we're probably not going to follow up on it. 554 00:24:05,340 --> 00:24:07,400 Now if it's city property, we can obviously do that. 555 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:08,120 We're the city. 556 00:24:08,120 --> 00:24:09,500 We can find out and say OK, do we 557 00:24:09,500 --> 00:24:11,340 want to allow this here or not. 558 00:24:11,340 --> 00:24:12,990 When it's state property. 559 00:24:12,990 --> 00:24:14,250 We're probably not going to chase it 560 00:24:14,250 --> 00:24:15,710 as long as it's not a problem. 561 00:24:15,710 --> 00:24:18,030 As far as it's not near a business, 562 00:24:18,030 --> 00:24:19,790 it's not disturbing a neighborhood nearby. 563 00:24:19,790 --> 00:24:21,530 It's not if it's just some unrestricted area 564 00:24:21,530 --> 00:24:24,770 and the cats are isolated to that, that's a part of the goal. 565 00:24:24,770 --> 00:24:26,770 We don't want them in an area where they're going to disturb 566 00:24:26,770 --> 00:24:28,370 the population in some way. 567 00:24:28,370 --> 00:24:30,290 So if they're happy in that kind of open space 568 00:24:30,290 --> 00:24:33,330 and it's not hurting anything in the area in any way ecologically 569 00:24:33,330 --> 00:24:35,230 or anything like that, then yeah, 570 00:24:35,230 --> 00:24:37,550 we're not going to chase it now if it becomes a problem. 571 00:24:37,550 --> 00:24:40,550 For some reason, if a red flag is raised by a certain party, 572 00:24:40,550 --> 00:24:44,010 then we can take those steps and dig into it, but otherwise 573 00:24:44,010 --> 00:24:44,870 we probably wouldn't. 574 00:24:44,870 --> 00:24:48,450 If it's just open land like that, they're happy 575 00:24:48,450 --> 00:24:49,670 and everybody's happy with them. 576 00:24:49,670 --> 00:24:50,630 So it's pretty much. 577 00:24:50,630 --> 00:24:52,810 Yeah, yeah. 578 00:24:52,810 --> 00:24:54,170 Anything else. 579 00:24:54,170 --> 00:24:57,150 Anybody who came tonight would like to speak. 580 00:24:57,150 --> 00:25:00,090 Come on up, please. 581 00:25:00,090 --> 00:25:03,610 State your name and city for the record, please. 582 00:25:03,610 --> 00:25:04,190 Good evening. 583 00:25:04,190 --> 00:25:05,350 My name is Beth Patterson. 584 00:25:05,350 --> 00:25:09,690 I'm the assistant coordinator for Kerrville pets alive. 585 00:25:09,690 --> 00:25:11,920 I need your business cards in my pocket. 586 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,960 I need a lot of them. 587 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:18,120 This orange shirt is my ticket to wherever I go. 588 00:25:18,120 --> 00:25:18,940 And my. 589 00:25:18,940 --> 00:25:20,500 My partners in crime. 590 00:25:20,500 --> 00:25:21,340 The big fix. 591 00:25:21,340 --> 00:25:23,380 I hand out their business cards. 592 00:25:23,380 --> 00:25:28,680 We work very hard together, and I constantly have people go, 593 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,640 you have to register a colony. 594 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:32,400 And this is so new. 595 00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,900 And so I need a reference, I need them. 596 00:25:35,900 --> 00:25:39,080 These are not people that necessarily get online. 597 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,580 So where are you. 598 00:25:41,580 --> 00:25:44,320 They are Facebook kind of people. 599 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:48,160 Do you have information going out that I can tag. 600 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,573 Yes so AI can give you plenty of my business cards 601 00:25:50,573 --> 00:25:51,140 to put out there. 602 00:25:51,140 --> 00:25:52,220 We just finally got them. 603 00:25:52,220 --> 00:25:54,540 So we can do that I'll give you online are old too. 604 00:25:54,540 --> 00:25:56,040 So sure. 605 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:56,980 Also yeah. 606 00:25:56,980 --> 00:26:00,360 So public education is a very big part of this new program. 607 00:26:00,360 --> 00:26:01,533 I'm working with Martin. 608 00:26:01,533 --> 00:26:02,900 We're trying to get a lot of things done, 609 00:26:02,900 --> 00:26:03,867 we'll be at bark in the park. 610 00:26:03,867 --> 00:26:06,600 We'll be at the New Kerrville pets alive grand opening 611 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,280 to answer questions and just let people know 612 00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,150 in general that, hey, the city has this program now, 613 00:26:11,150 --> 00:26:12,090 we're out there. 614 00:26:12,090 --> 00:26:13,990 We're enforcing the ordinances. 615 00:26:13,990 --> 00:26:15,810 I took two roosters from a guy the other day, 616 00:26:15,810 --> 00:26:17,150 had roosters in the city. 617 00:26:17,150 --> 00:26:18,290 He said, I've had them for years. 618 00:26:18,290 --> 00:26:19,490 No one told me they weren't allowed here. 619 00:26:19,490 --> 00:26:20,570 I says, well, they weren't allowed here. 620 00:26:20,570 --> 00:26:21,070 He says. 621 00:26:21,070 --> 00:26:23,030 They just never go to animal control it. 622 00:26:23,030 --> 00:26:24,570 Yeah so I saw them. 623 00:26:24,570 --> 00:26:25,490 Yes so. 624 00:26:25,490 --> 00:26:27,770 So we are here now and we're enforcing these things. 625 00:26:27,770 --> 00:26:29,983 So a lot of people just need to learn that we're here 626 00:26:29,983 --> 00:26:31,250 and that we're doing these things now. 627 00:26:31,250 --> 00:26:33,510 And so that will be a big public education push. 628 00:26:33,510 --> 00:26:36,870 And we're working with all the partner agencies to do that. 629 00:26:36,870 --> 00:26:40,630 OK myself and big fix and capa partners 630 00:26:40,630 --> 00:26:44,030 are in capa in kick-ass every day. 631 00:26:44,030 --> 00:26:46,830 And so we have partnerships with I've 632 00:26:46,830 --> 00:26:48,450 been doing this for five years. 633 00:26:48,450 --> 00:26:51,270 We have partnership personal relationships with every ACO 634 00:26:51,270 --> 00:26:52,710 except for the new guys. 635 00:26:52,710 --> 00:26:55,570 And so I personally will pick up the phone and say, 636 00:26:55,570 --> 00:26:58,130 Daisy, there's a dog on so-and-so, 637 00:26:58,130 --> 00:27:00,170 and it hasn't gotten on the radio or whatever. 638 00:27:00,170 --> 00:27:01,290 I feel good about that. 639 00:27:01,290 --> 00:27:04,110 But in the city, I'm a County resident, so I'm 640 00:27:04,110 --> 00:27:05,890 anxious to see this progress. 641 00:27:05,890 --> 00:27:07,700 I live off of upper turtle Creek, 642 00:27:07,700 --> 00:27:09,400 and I want to make sure this happens. 643 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,640 I'm now connected on the emergency system. 644 00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:15,940 I have a repeater on my property and so I'm 645 00:27:15,940 --> 00:27:17,640 connected in that environment. 646 00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,280 I want to make sure that everybody knows. 647 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,340 And if you want to come at some point 648 00:27:21,340 --> 00:27:23,460 or get Reagan to come and explain 649 00:27:23,460 --> 00:27:26,980 this from their perspective, that you're doing this together. 650 00:27:26,980 --> 00:27:28,980 I have a colony that I am working with that 651 00:27:28,980 --> 00:27:30,460 has been established and has been there 652 00:27:30,460 --> 00:27:33,060 for over 20 or 30 years, and he definitely 653 00:27:33,060 --> 00:27:34,520 has more than 15 cats. 654 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:38,460 So I'd like to see that 15 expand to the County 655 00:27:38,460 --> 00:27:40,000 if it's ever possible. 656 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,340 I'll be real curious to see how far we go. 657 00:27:42,340 --> 00:27:45,780 Yeah, so I am working with them, and a lot of the things 658 00:27:45,780 --> 00:27:48,820 that we're establishing here within the city 659 00:27:48,820 --> 00:27:51,440 are having the positive effect of bleeding over to the County, 660 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,500 even as far as how I have equipped myself 661 00:27:53,500 --> 00:27:55,140 for this position, they've kind of 662 00:27:55,140 --> 00:27:57,900 seen the benefits of defensive equipment and things 663 00:27:57,900 --> 00:27:59,560 like that and protection like a vest. 664 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,420 I wear a vest when I'm out in the field 665 00:28:01,420 --> 00:28:03,320 and they've seen that benefit for their officers, 666 00:28:03,320 --> 00:28:07,050 so they're starting to do that as far as rules and the county's 667 00:28:07,050 --> 00:28:08,110 ordinances and rules. 668 00:28:08,110 --> 00:28:09,810 Yeah, I think we'll see some of that 669 00:28:09,810 --> 00:28:12,190 happen as well, where when we establish certain rules, 670 00:28:12,190 --> 00:28:13,650 they may follow. 671 00:28:13,650 --> 00:28:14,350 They may not. 672 00:28:14,350 --> 00:28:16,190 That's up to the County commissioners, of course. 673 00:28:16,190 --> 00:28:18,050 And then Reagan, who's running that program. 674 00:28:18,050 --> 00:28:19,610 But the positive relationship we've 675 00:28:19,610 --> 00:28:22,910 had so far is kind of leaning towards let's do this together. 676 00:28:22,910 --> 00:28:23,590 Let's work together. 677 00:28:23,590 --> 00:28:26,530 Let's all get on the same page, operate the same way. 678 00:28:26,530 --> 00:28:27,970 That way we can work hand in hand 679 00:28:27,970 --> 00:28:30,970 and there's no hang UPS. I worked on college campuses 680 00:28:30,970 --> 00:28:35,010 for 13 years, and so I know day to day to day for everything 681 00:28:35,010 --> 00:28:36,450 that you need, like grant writing 682 00:28:36,450 --> 00:28:37,430 and all that kind of stuff. 683 00:28:37,430 --> 00:28:39,510 So I'll be excited to see that information. 684 00:28:39,510 --> 00:28:40,430 Thank you for being here. 685 00:28:40,430 --> 00:28:41,470 We greatly appreciate it. 686 00:28:41,470 --> 00:28:42,350 You're very welcome. 687 00:28:42,350 --> 00:28:45,410 688 00:28:45,410 --> 00:28:46,630 I have one more. 689 00:28:46,630 --> 00:28:47,310 Sure yes. 690 00:28:47,310 --> 00:28:50,450 I'd like to piggyback on council member 691 00:28:50,450 --> 00:28:53,850 Smith's suggestion about getting written permission 692 00:28:53,850 --> 00:28:55,030 to be on the property. 693 00:28:55,030 --> 00:29:03,680 I think it's fine to check, but people's memory and people can 694 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,840 I think having it in writing, it's absolutely simple enough 695 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,120 to add that to the contract and just have a second signatory 696 00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:11,060 for the property owner. 697 00:29:11,060 --> 00:29:13,340 If it's somebody different, we can absolutely do that. 698 00:29:13,340 --> 00:29:16,480 No problem. 699 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:17,760 Anybody else. 700 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,600 Anybody else from either of the groups. 701 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:21,800 All right. 702 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:27,480 It's odd that someone is not taking a chance to speak to us. 703 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,640 I can get up there and say what a wonderful job 704 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:34,680 he's doing, but come on up. 705 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:36,700 Please step to the mic and say your name. 706 00:29:36,700 --> 00:29:39,560 707 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,180 Thank you for your presentation. 708 00:29:41,180 --> 00:29:41,940 You're very welcome. 709 00:29:41,940 --> 00:29:42,980 I have one small typo. 710 00:29:42,980 --> 00:29:43,740 I'll show you after. 711 00:29:43,740 --> 00:29:44,240 Oh, sure. 712 00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:45,960 Thank you. 713 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:46,460 All right. 714 00:29:46,460 --> 00:29:48,360 Anything else on this item. 715 00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:52,360 Let's move on then to the next item, which 716 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:54,120 I don't have in front of me. 717 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:59,900 Item 2B Mr. Mayor and council. 718 00:29:59,900 --> 00:30:02,630 I'm excited to follow that. 719 00:30:02,630 --> 00:30:04,150 I haven't gotten a chance to spend 720 00:30:04,150 --> 00:30:09,510 too much time with Officer Lee yet, so that was a pleasant. 721 00:30:09,510 --> 00:30:10,630 That was nice to see. 722 00:30:10,630 --> 00:30:12,830 Well done. 723 00:30:12,830 --> 00:30:15,270 OK, so we're going to talk a little bit about flood 724 00:30:15,270 --> 00:30:17,250 in a couple of different phases. 725 00:30:17,250 --> 00:30:19,370 So I'll do some overview stuff. 726 00:30:19,370 --> 00:30:21,070 And then Kelly Hagemeyer from Kerr 727 00:30:21,070 --> 00:30:27,350 together no longer the city of Kerrville AI is here tonight. 728 00:30:27,350 --> 00:30:29,590 And she's going to talk a little bit about Kerr Together's 729 00:30:29,590 --> 00:30:31,330 process and what they're doing. 730 00:30:31,330 --> 00:30:34,690 And then the following item is kind of a continuation of that. 731 00:30:34,690 --> 00:30:39,190 And David and Julie will talk about the debris pickup. 732 00:30:39,190 --> 00:30:44,190 So without further ado. 733 00:30:44,190 --> 00:30:46,850 So immediate response is over. 734 00:30:46,850 --> 00:30:48,730 So it's recovery at this point. 735 00:30:48,730 --> 00:30:52,430 This seems like old hat for us, and I'm sorry about that. 736 00:30:52,430 --> 00:30:54,290 But we kind of know where this is headed. 737 00:30:54,290 --> 00:30:56,910 738 00:30:56,910 --> 00:31:00,420 Our city services are operating as they normally do. 739 00:31:00,420 --> 00:31:01,480 We have some hiccups. 740 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:04,360 We do have some temporary issues that we're working through. 741 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:10,020 But I think with the exception of James Avery campus 742 00:31:10,020 --> 00:31:13,980 out on Harper, everybody's water and sewer 743 00:31:13,980 --> 00:31:15,620 connections are as they are. 744 00:31:15,620 --> 00:31:19,420 Staff is in the process of temporarily fixing that water 745 00:31:19,420 --> 00:31:22,180 line extension to James Avery, so they'll be back up 746 00:31:22,180 --> 00:31:23,140 and running. 747 00:31:23,140 --> 00:31:24,520 They won't notice the difference. 748 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:28,060 It's still a temporary fix on our end. 749 00:31:28,060 --> 00:31:33,020 And so that's the disruption I think 750 00:31:33,020 --> 00:31:37,020 we see in the utility side. 751 00:31:37,020 --> 00:31:39,200 A lot of work left in the creeks, 752 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,180 a lot of work left on the Riverside, 753 00:31:42,180 --> 00:31:47,100 and a lot of future projects coming our way. 754 00:31:47,100 --> 00:31:50,380 From an infrastructure standpoint, 755 00:31:50,380 --> 00:31:52,300 state continues to be here. 756 00:31:52,300 --> 00:31:53,980 I think they're operating a lot of their activity 757 00:31:53,980 --> 00:31:57,570 on last year's flooding. 758 00:31:57,570 --> 00:32:02,930 They have been a guidance for us during this time. 759 00:32:02,930 --> 00:32:05,610 But the presence is different this year 760 00:32:05,610 --> 00:32:07,610 than it was last year, right. 761 00:32:07,610 --> 00:32:11,210 You can feel that you can see it. 762 00:32:11,210 --> 00:32:14,850 Federal assistance. 763 00:32:14,850 --> 00:32:17,330 We're still waiting. 764 00:32:17,330 --> 00:32:21,290 I think the process is. 765 00:32:21,290 --> 00:32:23,290 Compiling all of the damage assessments 766 00:32:23,290 --> 00:32:25,470 for all the counties that were affected in Texas, 767 00:32:25,470 --> 00:32:27,450 and putting those all together as one package 768 00:32:27,450 --> 00:32:30,130 to go to President's desk. 769 00:32:30,130 --> 00:32:32,730 I think that is what's happening. 770 00:32:32,730 --> 00:32:36,250 And so we're continuing to push. 771 00:32:36,250 --> 00:32:37,750 Mayor was at a meeting last Friday, 772 00:32:37,750 --> 00:32:43,610 I believe, with reps from Congressman Roy's office 773 00:32:43,610 --> 00:32:48,450 or Congressman Roy was there, I believe to keep pushing. 774 00:32:48,450 --> 00:32:50,410 And so I think that's what we can do at this point 775 00:32:50,410 --> 00:32:52,550 is continue to advocate for ourselves, 776 00:32:52,550 --> 00:32:54,730 talk to our neighbors, continue to advocate for themselves 777 00:32:54,730 --> 00:32:56,360 as well. 778 00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,020 The state is pushing. 779 00:32:58,020 --> 00:33:01,240 I see we have that conversation. 780 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,500 Not daily, but almost daily. 781 00:33:03,500 --> 00:33:06,400 Where we're at. 782 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,520 You get tired of asking, but you keep asking. 783 00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:13,720 Yes do things like what happened in Hawaii and the flooding 784 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:18,880 in Indiana and other natural disasters that are happening 785 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:23,600 now after July 16 affect that. 786 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,780 It's hard to speculate on it, but I think it does. 787 00:33:26,780 --> 00:33:28,460 I think there's severity levels. 788 00:33:28,460 --> 00:33:30,600 I think when you have I think when 789 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,360 you have loss of human life, I think 790 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,660 the responses are different. 791 00:33:35,660 --> 00:33:37,060 I think they are faster. 792 00:33:37,060 --> 00:33:41,500 And then it scales because when they're looking at it, 793 00:33:41,500 --> 00:33:44,120 if they're seeing this week there's something 794 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:45,760 here the next week, something here 795 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:47,260 the next week, something here. 796 00:33:47,260 --> 00:33:50,420 And, you get all of those requests simultaneously. 797 00:33:50,420 --> 00:33:53,710 I'm not sure I'm not sure the process, the methodology 798 00:33:53,710 --> 00:33:56,750 approved or disapproved. 799 00:33:56,750 --> 00:34:01,430 But you have 50 states and all the territories, 800 00:34:01,430 --> 00:34:03,570 all asking for federal dollars. 801 00:34:03,570 --> 00:34:05,890 Pocketbooks to be opened up. 802 00:34:05,890 --> 00:34:08,810 So it is a complicated process. 803 00:34:08,810 --> 00:34:12,510 Now, what I do understand is that while we see this 804 00:34:12,510 --> 00:34:15,489 as a delay in a federal response, 805 00:34:15,489 --> 00:34:19,510 because last year we had such an immediate turnaround, 806 00:34:19,510 --> 00:34:23,750 it does take a while to get those declarations. 807 00:34:23,750 --> 00:34:30,350 So I think two of the biggest facets of it 808 00:34:30,350 --> 00:34:33,270 are we talk about it all the time as individual assistance 809 00:34:33,270 --> 00:34:34,409 and public assistance. 810 00:34:34,409 --> 00:34:37,290 So if FEMA opens up those two tranches of funding, 811 00:34:37,290 --> 00:34:41,590 that opens up different avenues for both families, 812 00:34:41,590 --> 00:34:44,630 and community members living in town, as well as for us 813 00:34:44,630 --> 00:34:46,130 and what's available for us. 814 00:34:46,130 --> 00:34:49,590 815 00:34:49,590 --> 00:34:53,510 We do have a significant philanthropic community. 816 00:34:53,510 --> 00:34:55,810 The dollars that came through for this flood, 817 00:34:55,810 --> 00:35:03,230 I think a lot of their donation fatigue is a real thing. 818 00:35:03,230 --> 00:35:10,430 $150 million plus was donated in last year's flood. 819 00:35:10,430 --> 00:35:14,070 I believe part of that money is that's going 820 00:35:14,070 --> 00:35:16,270 to this year's flood. 821 00:35:16,270 --> 00:35:20,470 One of the weird kind of not weird IRS regulation stipulation 822 00:35:20,470 --> 00:35:24,390 is that Community Foundation has to get approval 823 00:35:24,390 --> 00:35:27,790 from those donors to utilize that money from last year 824 00:35:27,790 --> 00:35:30,630 to this year, which is another step. 825 00:35:30,630 --> 00:35:33,630 And I think they had more than 100,000 826 00:35:33,630 --> 00:35:35,470 or more than 100,000 donors. 827 00:35:35,470 --> 00:35:39,270 So a lot of people to reach out to. 828 00:35:39,270 --> 00:35:41,570 But they've gotten some money out thus far, 829 00:35:41,570 --> 00:35:43,550 and some of those programs are operating and getting 830 00:35:43,550 --> 00:35:46,670 assistance out to people. 831 00:35:46,670 --> 00:35:48,390 We're going to keep working with Kerr 832 00:35:48,390 --> 00:35:50,580 together other as kind of our official 833 00:35:50,580 --> 00:35:52,160 long term recovery group. 834 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,740 And so we meet with them on a weekly basis, 835 00:35:55,740 --> 00:35:59,200 talk to them all the time about what's available, 836 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:00,300 how can we help. 837 00:36:00,300 --> 00:36:02,380 And they reciprocate and ask me, when are 838 00:36:02,380 --> 00:36:04,260 we going to handle the debris. 839 00:36:04,260 --> 00:36:09,140 And so both of our answers have been we're working on it. 840 00:36:09,140 --> 00:36:10,740 And so what you'll see tonight is 841 00:36:10,740 --> 00:36:15,500 that we are implementing not just working on it 842 00:36:15,500 --> 00:36:18,620 again TMM and DPs are operating. 843 00:36:18,620 --> 00:36:20,580 There will be another barge. 844 00:36:20,580 --> 00:36:23,460 There will be another crane there putting that stuff 845 00:36:23,460 --> 00:36:26,900 back out there as we speak. 846 00:36:26,900 --> 00:36:29,520 Those things are in place. 847 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,320 And so those operations continue. 848 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:37,900 849 00:36:37,900 --> 00:36:39,420 Our water and wastewater again, our systems 850 00:36:39,420 --> 00:36:43,720 are operational, although not as we want them to be. 851 00:36:43,720 --> 00:36:49,930 The crews that work worked for David Barrera. 852 00:36:49,930 --> 00:36:50,910 Our magicians. 853 00:36:50,910 --> 00:36:52,710 And they will make these things work. 854 00:36:52,710 --> 00:36:56,930 And they will duct tape a thing, the officially duct tape 855 00:36:56,930 --> 00:37:00,130 with a clamp and all approved. 856 00:37:00,130 --> 00:37:04,370 But they can I mean to say they can work magic. 857 00:37:04,370 --> 00:37:09,770 Repairs on town Creek are going well 858 00:37:09,770 --> 00:37:13,490 for the water and wastewater. 859 00:37:13,490 --> 00:37:15,970 The repairs on the road is a significantly different 860 00:37:15,970 --> 00:37:18,410 conversation, although they have done a lot of work 861 00:37:18,410 --> 00:37:21,870 and the streets crews are here today sitting right there, 862 00:37:21,870 --> 00:37:25,610 and they are rock stars, all of them. 863 00:37:25,610 --> 00:37:29,850 There are still some issues with access and a few crossings. 864 00:37:29,850 --> 00:37:31,850 We know about those. 865 00:37:31,850 --> 00:37:34,570 Arcadia loop bridge, big one town 866 00:37:34,570 --> 00:37:36,270 Creek has some crossing issues. 867 00:37:36,270 --> 00:37:40,250 Obviously there's major damage throughout that. 868 00:37:40,250 --> 00:37:43,330 We have a large transmission line, 869 00:37:43,330 --> 00:37:45,680 a few that cross at the water treatment 870 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:49,080 plant that are transmit water from the treatment plant 871 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:50,880 into town. 872 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:57,920 Those were, oh, I don't five to 10 feet below the bed 873 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:01,360 of the river when they were built. 874 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,800 And that water has been scoured a little bit 875 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:06,240 and they are no longer that deep. 876 00:38:06,240 --> 00:38:14,360 And so it came to light when the barge went over the river, 877 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,860 as they were pulling some of their material back out, 878 00:38:16,860 --> 00:38:20,400 scoured one of the lines, which happens then. 879 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:20,900 That was fine. 880 00:38:20,900 --> 00:38:25,960 We were able to fix it, but it highlighted this larger project 881 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:30,200 that will be a future public, probably a future FEMA project 882 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:32,840 is what we are planning for, but we 883 00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,040 don't want to have that line so close 884 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,180 to the surface of the water, not to the surface of the water, 885 00:38:38,180 --> 00:38:41,880 but to the bed. 886 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:45,790 And so I think those are a couple of our biggest projects 887 00:38:45,790 --> 00:38:47,290 that we're looking at, obviously, 888 00:38:47,290 --> 00:38:49,710 are the bridge, that transmission 889 00:38:49,710 --> 00:38:53,470 line, town Creek, river trail. 890 00:38:53,470 --> 00:38:54,630 Big components. 891 00:38:54,630 --> 00:38:55,450 Talk about those. 892 00:38:55,450 --> 00:38:59,350 893 00:38:59,350 --> 00:39:02,630 Knapp and Cypress are returning to public use. 894 00:39:02,630 --> 00:39:04,330 The river trail does remain closed, 895 00:39:04,330 --> 00:39:07,990 although we've had a huge volunteer outpouring from folks 896 00:39:07,990 --> 00:39:11,110 with heavy equipment who came out and did a lot of work 897 00:39:11,110 --> 00:39:13,590 over the last few weeks. 898 00:39:13,590 --> 00:39:15,410 And I know Jay will get mad when I say this, 899 00:39:15,410 --> 00:39:16,490 but the river trail is closed. 900 00:39:16,490 --> 00:39:17,890 But we see people out there walking, 901 00:39:17,890 --> 00:39:20,830 so if you're amongst those who are trespassing, 902 00:39:20,830 --> 00:39:24,310 let's say there has been a lot of work 903 00:39:24,310 --> 00:39:27,950 and I think you'll be able to see the work that has been done. 904 00:39:27,950 --> 00:39:32,550 There's a significant amount of movement in that river rock. 905 00:39:32,550 --> 00:39:35,150 Every time you drive over the bridge 906 00:39:35,150 --> 00:39:36,930 and you look down at Louise Hays park, 907 00:39:36,930 --> 00:39:39,610 you'll see a lot of that right there. 908 00:39:39,610 --> 00:39:43,380 And that's all up and down the river. 909 00:39:43,380 --> 00:39:46,260 So in that we have areas that we still 910 00:39:46,260 --> 00:39:49,460 need to fix, a lot of cavitations, a lot of areas 911 00:39:49,460 --> 00:39:51,680 where the drop offs are as high as this desk, 912 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:54,540 sometimes as high as the dais there. 913 00:39:54,540 --> 00:39:56,540 And so we can't open that up until we 914 00:39:56,540 --> 00:40:01,140 mitigate that because it's just too much it's too dangerous. 915 00:40:01,140 --> 00:40:03,320 We don't want somebody to go out there and trip and fall. 916 00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:07,260 917 00:40:07,260 --> 00:40:09,000 Again, the volunteers this time around, 918 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,080 I think that's going to be a big delta for us this year, 919 00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,980 is that we don't have the disaster declaration. 920 00:40:14,980 --> 00:40:18,220 We still have to get all this stuff done. 921 00:40:18,220 --> 00:40:21,620 Our teams are working hard at getting the things that we can 922 00:40:21,620 --> 00:40:26,260 do done, but the volunteers are seeing a gap 923 00:40:26,260 --> 00:40:28,020 and they're filling that gap. 924 00:40:28,020 --> 00:40:30,860 So with heavy equipment, with just volunteers 925 00:40:30,860 --> 00:40:36,180 coming to pick up trash, I know Lisa and Saladin and a bunch 926 00:40:36,180 --> 00:40:39,380 of her friends have been out cleaning up town 927 00:40:39,380 --> 00:40:41,890 Creek just every couple of days they're 928 00:40:41,890 --> 00:40:43,490 out there picking stuff out. 929 00:40:43,490 --> 00:40:46,950 And so lots of groups are out there helping us out. 930 00:40:46,950 --> 00:40:51,210 931 00:40:51,210 --> 00:40:54,030 One of the things that we are looking at now is. 932 00:40:54,030 --> 00:40:56,810 933 00:40:56,810 --> 00:40:58,650 How do we rebuild. 934 00:40:58,650 --> 00:40:59,670 Where do we rebuild. 935 00:40:59,670 --> 00:41:00,870 What is a place like town. 936 00:41:00,870 --> 00:41:02,730 Creek is a perfect example. 937 00:41:02,730 --> 00:41:04,770 I spoke to you all at that budget hearing 938 00:41:04,770 --> 00:41:09,950 and said $57 million to fix the thing, that area, 939 00:41:09,950 --> 00:41:11,150 and I'm sorry I said it. 940 00:41:11,150 --> 00:41:12,270 I didn't want to say it. 941 00:41:12,270 --> 00:41:16,130 It's a horribly large number and it's not a realistic number. 942 00:41:16,130 --> 00:41:18,290 That's a number that we provide to FEMA 943 00:41:18,290 --> 00:41:22,190 to say to bring it back to those preexisting conditions. 944 00:41:22,190 --> 00:41:23,610 This is what that looks like. 945 00:41:23,610 --> 00:41:25,550 And that's just never what we'll do. 946 00:41:25,550 --> 00:41:29,210 But we have to supply that to FEMA. 947 00:41:29,210 --> 00:41:32,890 But we're looking at this from a functionality standpoint. 948 00:41:32,890 --> 00:41:34,150 Who needs access. 949 00:41:34,150 --> 00:41:36,050 Where do they need access. 950 00:41:36,050 --> 00:41:39,960 And how can we most efficiently make that happen. 951 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,160 And the town Creek that I think we all knew 952 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:46,080 is always going to be different. 953 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,400 More to follow on that. 954 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:52,140 In that endeavor we will work towards grants, 955 00:41:52,140 --> 00:41:53,920 philanthropic funding where we can 956 00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:57,800 and then keep kind of pushing that volunteer effort because I 957 00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:01,840 think we're going to have to do a lot of this ourselves 958 00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:02,920 to get it done. 959 00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:08,000 So the next phase is David will talk about debris 960 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:09,600 removal here in a little bit. 961 00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,720 We're going to keep working on FEMA 962 00:42:11,720 --> 00:42:14,380 and tdem documentation for anything that we're going to do. 963 00:42:14,380 --> 00:42:16,560 We're going to do all of our work compliant 964 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,380 with those regulations. 965 00:42:18,380 --> 00:42:21,000 So that way, if and when the time 966 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,800 comes for us to get reimbursed, we have done it in accordance 967 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,560 with their rules so we can get the maximum reimbursement 968 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,200 for it. 969 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:29,700 Keep advocating for that. 970 00:42:29,700 --> 00:42:33,800 971 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,370 Priorities for what we can fix is next. 972 00:42:36,370 --> 00:42:39,850 Because I think we have somewhere between 65 million 973 00:42:39,850 --> 00:42:42,170 and $100 million worth of damage, 974 00:42:42,170 --> 00:42:43,750 and there's not going to be enough funding 975 00:42:43,750 --> 00:42:44,490 to cover all that. 976 00:42:44,490 --> 00:42:46,030 So what are the priorities. 977 00:42:46,030 --> 00:42:51,550 So we will get that list to you and triage that and then 978 00:42:51,550 --> 00:42:55,630 start working on those permanent fixes for all of our projects. 979 00:42:55,630 --> 00:42:58,910 So that's the big picture for me. 980 00:42:58,910 --> 00:43:01,470 Kelly has a lot more detail about what curr 981 00:43:01,470 --> 00:43:03,150 together has been doing, so she's 982 00:43:03,150 --> 00:43:05,830 going to step up and take over. 983 00:43:05,830 --> 00:43:07,750 I'll answer any questions you have now, or if y'all want 984 00:43:07,750 --> 00:43:09,410 to wait until she's finished. 985 00:43:09,410 --> 00:43:13,190 Questions for Mr. Horn's. 986 00:43:13,190 --> 00:43:19,190 OK thank you MS Hagemeyer. 987 00:43:19,190 --> 00:43:20,050 Good afternoon. 988 00:43:20,050 --> 00:43:22,750 Council thank you for having me here. 989 00:43:22,750 --> 00:43:24,290 My name is Kelly Hagemeyer. 990 00:43:24,290 --> 00:43:27,330 I am the program manager for curr together. 991 00:43:27,330 --> 00:43:31,910 And this is our one month recovery 992 00:43:31,910 --> 00:43:36,820 report for the 26th July 2026. 993 00:43:36,820 --> 00:43:41,180 Severe weather event. 994 00:43:41,180 --> 00:43:48,100 So, assessing the istat data, we have 966 residents that were 995 00:43:48,100 --> 00:43:50,660 verified as being affected. 996 00:43:50,660 --> 00:43:56,340 223 of those were major or destroyed, the majority 997 00:43:56,340 --> 00:44:01,460 of that damage being in the Kerrville city limits 998 00:44:01,460 --> 00:44:06,100 with 190 homes, severe sustaining, major 999 00:44:06,100 --> 00:44:09,360 or destroyed, major damage or destroyed. 1000 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:15,220 And so I also put up the 2025 comparisons. 1001 00:44:15,220 --> 00:44:18,800 So while there were less affected, 1002 00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:22,760 obviously the proportion of major and damage was longer. 1003 00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,740 However, as I mentioned, this damage was more centralized 1004 00:44:25,740 --> 00:44:27,380 than the Kerrville city limits. 1005 00:44:27,380 --> 00:44:31,700 We also put up there the number of businesses 1006 00:44:31,700 --> 00:44:32,950 that were affected. 1007 00:44:32,950 --> 00:44:34,790 That was something from 2025. 1008 00:44:34,790 --> 00:44:38,630 We were well aware that we needed to keep in mind, 1009 00:44:38,630 --> 00:44:40,490 even though that there weren't a lot of resources 1010 00:44:40,490 --> 00:44:42,210 and it wasn't something that Tedham 1011 00:44:42,210 --> 00:44:44,210 necessarily kept track of. 1012 00:44:44,210 --> 00:44:48,010 But we felt that was really important for our community. 1013 00:44:48,010 --> 00:44:52,330 And then this year, we had a much larger number of businesses 1014 00:44:52,330 --> 00:44:57,650 that were affected and especially majorly destroyed 1015 00:44:57,650 --> 00:45:02,650 and damaged, with 20 of those businesses being 1016 00:45:02,650 --> 00:45:06,930 destroyed within the Kerrville city limits. 1017 00:45:06,930 --> 00:45:11,050 So then from the Tedham verified, then we 1018 00:45:11,050 --> 00:45:14,090 have the other list of people who have been coming in 1019 00:45:14,090 --> 00:45:18,770 since then, or maybe didn't make it to the I-stat or got 1020 00:45:18,770 --> 00:45:21,010 lost somewhere in the system. 1021 00:45:21,010 --> 00:45:25,510 Just as council member Harris and I were talking about, 1022 00:45:25,510 --> 00:45:27,610 lots of people are still coming in just 1023 00:45:27,610 --> 00:45:31,220 now submitting their damages. 1024 00:45:31,220 --> 00:45:34,240 And so this is an assessment that occurred together 1025 00:45:34,240 --> 00:45:37,560 has as we collect various lists that 1026 00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,480 are coming from other organizations 1027 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,080 throughout the County. 1028 00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,600 We're trying to cross-reference, see 1029 00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:46,440 if we've doubled up anywhere. 1030 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,700 So that 1,200 number might go down. 1031 00:45:49,700 --> 00:45:55,080 But given that Tatum had verified almost 1,000 people 1032 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:59,040 were thinking that a near 1,200 is 1033 00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:02,660 much more accurate of how many people were actually affected. 1034 00:46:02,660 --> 00:46:09,240 1035 00:46:09,240 --> 00:46:12,760 So as we go through with the residents of what their needs 1036 00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:14,880 are right now, there are still residents 1037 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:15,980 that need muck and gut. 1038 00:46:15,980 --> 00:46:18,300 And so as we're hearing about those people, 1039 00:46:18,300 --> 00:46:20,520 we are putting them on a list and trying 1040 00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,000 to get them with a vote. 1041 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:26,260 As Mr. mentioned, we have not quite as many resources, 1042 00:46:26,260 --> 00:46:28,060 which also means volunteers. 1043 00:46:28,060 --> 00:46:32,430 So a lot of those video ads, those volunteer organizations 1044 00:46:32,430 --> 00:46:34,030 active in disaster. 1045 00:46:34,030 --> 00:46:36,090 They have already left. 1046 00:46:36,090 --> 00:46:41,290 Many of them are still monitoring what needs. 1047 00:46:41,290 --> 00:46:45,230 There still are, but it's a little less organized 1048 00:46:45,230 --> 00:46:47,210 or consistent at this time. 1049 00:46:47,210 --> 00:46:48,670 And we're kind of having to reach out 1050 00:46:48,670 --> 00:46:51,390 and we're having to meet some sort of threshold 1051 00:46:51,390 --> 00:46:54,750 in their mind to be able to collect whether it's 1052 00:46:54,750 --> 00:46:58,030 50, hundreds, 200 volunteers for the weekend 1053 00:46:58,030 --> 00:46:59,870 throughout the whole state to come 1054 00:46:59,870 --> 00:47:01,910 and finding a place for them to stay 1055 00:47:01,910 --> 00:47:03,550 and all of those things for them to come 1056 00:47:03,550 --> 00:47:05,910 in to continue to do those response 1057 00:47:05,910 --> 00:47:08,270 efforts, debris removal. 1058 00:47:08,270 --> 00:47:12,390 My staff is very grateful that the city and the County 1059 00:47:12,390 --> 00:47:14,530 have a mitigation plan right now, 1060 00:47:14,530 --> 00:47:17,110 that it was one of the main questions 1061 00:47:17,110 --> 00:47:20,310 that we were receiving is when how are 1062 00:47:20,310 --> 00:47:22,770 we getting rid of this stuff off of our property. 1063 00:47:22,770 --> 00:47:25,950 So we're grateful to David and his crew 1064 00:47:25,950 --> 00:47:30,180 for working very quickly to come up with a solution. 1065 00:47:30,180 --> 00:47:31,480 Financial assistance. 1066 00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,900 Light on the Hill is currently distributing 1067 00:47:33,900 --> 00:47:36,060 emergency financial assistance. 1068 00:47:36,060 --> 00:47:40,540 So a lot of people losing their house or not being able to be 1069 00:47:40,540 --> 00:47:42,700 in their house, trying to live in a house 1070 00:47:42,700 --> 00:47:44,260 that they probably shouldn't. 1071 00:47:44,260 --> 00:47:45,400 Maybe they lost work. 1072 00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,060 They lost their car. 1073 00:47:47,060 --> 00:47:50,940 I saw a report today that 95 households 1074 00:47:50,940 --> 00:47:56,600 have said that their car was affected in some way. 1075 00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:58,380 Probably lost completely. 1076 00:47:58,380 --> 00:48:00,820 And some of those that was just households. 1077 00:48:00,820 --> 00:48:04,180 So some of those they lost both cars. 1078 00:48:04,180 --> 00:48:07,140 And then temporary housing is something else. 1079 00:48:07,140 --> 00:48:09,420 These people who probably shouldn't be living 1080 00:48:09,420 --> 00:48:11,980 in their home trying to better understand 1081 00:48:11,980 --> 00:48:14,940 what those solutions are with such little funding 1082 00:48:14,940 --> 00:48:18,420 available at this time. 1083 00:48:18,420 --> 00:48:20,460 Kelly, can I ask a question on that last slide. 1084 00:48:20,460 --> 00:48:20,960 Oh, yes. 1085 00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:23,420 Of course. 1086 00:48:23,420 --> 00:48:25,620 Financial assistance light on the Hill. 1087 00:48:25,620 --> 00:48:30,180 So if they come to y'all and say, hey, we need this. 1088 00:48:30,180 --> 00:48:31,800 Are they going to light on the Hill. 1089 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:33,560 Is that going through, y'all. 1090 00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,060 And light on the Hill or is that a totally different. 1091 00:48:36,060 --> 00:48:38,020 So right now. 1092 00:48:38,020 --> 00:48:41,860 So yes, if someone comes and they have not light on the Hill 1093 00:48:41,860 --> 00:48:45,220 is getting their lists through rebuild Kerr. 1094 00:48:45,220 --> 00:48:47,920 So if someone comes to us and says, 1095 00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:51,080 I haven't received financial assistance and I was affected, 1096 00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,000 we can get them into the system. 1097 00:48:53,000 --> 00:48:55,120 We do have a disaster. 1098 00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:57,100 Case manager threw light on the Hill 1099 00:48:57,100 --> 00:49:02,260 that is at 98 Coronato 9 to four. 1100 00:49:02,260 --> 00:49:04,340 We have someone there and they can double check 1101 00:49:04,340 --> 00:49:05,520 if they are in the system. 1102 00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,060 We just haven't gotten they haven't just gotten to them yet. 1103 00:49:08,060 --> 00:49:09,540 They are. 1104 00:49:09,540 --> 00:49:12,140 Beth Palmer, there she is. 1105 00:49:12,140 --> 00:49:17,300 Her goal is to write checks to 200 households every week. 1106 00:49:17,300 --> 00:49:20,900 So that is 200 people, 200 households that they're needing 1107 00:49:20,900 --> 00:49:26,010 to talk to every week to comb through to verify, 1108 00:49:26,010 --> 00:49:29,250 because they have their own checks and balances too. 1109 00:49:29,250 --> 00:49:33,270 But they have done an amazing job to get through that. 1110 00:49:33,270 --> 00:49:35,290 And so her goal was to get all of that money 1111 00:49:35,290 --> 00:49:37,530 out within six weeks. 1112 00:49:37,530 --> 00:49:38,370 Yes, ma'am. 1113 00:49:38,370 --> 00:49:41,490 Some of the first people that came in that first week, 1114 00:49:41,490 --> 00:49:43,850 I know we were up and running as far as input 1115 00:49:43,850 --> 00:49:46,410 and taking their case. 1116 00:49:46,410 --> 00:49:48,090 So are they being called now that there 1117 00:49:48,090 --> 00:49:49,190 is this light on the Hill. 1118 00:49:49,190 --> 00:49:51,110 Financial assistance. 1119 00:49:51,110 --> 00:49:56,370 Yes we're going back through our list and data 1120 00:49:56,370 --> 00:49:58,490 sharing and giving them and double 1121 00:49:58,490 --> 00:50:01,770 checking with the disaster case managers 1122 00:50:01,770 --> 00:50:05,130 to make sure that as people come in or if we think that maybe 1123 00:50:05,130 --> 00:50:06,410 someone got lost through the cracks 1124 00:50:06,410 --> 00:50:09,530 to make sure that they are in their system, 1125 00:50:09,530 --> 00:50:11,150 could have been one of the intakes I did. 1126 00:50:11,150 --> 00:50:13,350 So you might want to double check those. 1127 00:50:13,350 --> 00:50:16,770 We will double check. 1128 00:50:16,770 --> 00:50:19,090 Not my skill set. 1129 00:50:19,090 --> 00:50:20,190 You did a wonderful job. 1130 00:50:20,190 --> 00:50:21,360 Thank you for coming. 1131 00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:22,260 You're so welcome. 1132 00:50:22,260 --> 00:50:25,120 You're so welcome. 1133 00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:31,200 So one of the acronym soups that we got to learn very early 1134 00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,440 on last year was voadores. 1135 00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:37,400 So those volunteer organizations active in disasters and occur 1136 00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,860 together is a collaboration of local, regional, 1137 00:50:39,860 --> 00:50:41,140 and national partners. 1138 00:50:41,140 --> 00:50:42,960 And these ads are part of that. 1139 00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:46,340 These four are the ones that we worked most closely with. 1140 00:50:46,340 --> 00:50:48,780 They weren't the only ones who were in town. 1141 00:50:48,780 --> 00:50:50,040 They were just the most consistent 1142 00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:51,640 with checking in with us. 1143 00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:55,360 And they also gave me closeout packets, which always makes 1144 00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:58,160 it easier to collect data. 1145 00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:00,980 And so Samaritan's Purse, all hands and hearts, 1146 00:51:00,980 --> 00:51:02,980 Texans on mission and Team Rubicon. 1147 00:51:02,980 --> 00:51:04,800 And so we're very grateful for them. 1148 00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:07,920 We stay in constant contact with them. 1149 00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:12,600 Because they're wanting to come back into the community 1150 00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,240 whenever they find funding or whenever 1151 00:51:15,240 --> 00:51:19,530 we have a large enough work order for them. 1152 00:51:19,530 --> 00:51:23,590 1153 00:51:23,590 --> 00:51:25,630 This weekend, actually, the Latter day Saints 1154 00:51:25,630 --> 00:51:29,110 are coming into town, and so I'm coordinating with them with 1155 00:51:29,110 --> 00:51:31,330 that church group right now. 1156 00:51:31,330 --> 00:51:35,830 1157 00:51:35,830 --> 00:51:38,910 Global empowerment mission has been a wonderful partner 1158 00:51:38,910 --> 00:51:41,110 to curd together. 1159 00:51:41,110 --> 00:51:45,270 They are able to help us not only just with individuals 1160 00:51:45,270 --> 00:51:47,470 but also businesses. 1161 00:51:47,470 --> 00:51:49,770 And they also manage the warehouse, 1162 00:51:49,770 --> 00:51:56,190 which was very important from last year Mr. horns can tell you 1163 00:51:56,190 --> 00:51:58,190 plenty of nightmare stories about the warehouse 1164 00:51:58,190 --> 00:52:00,030 from last year. 1165 00:52:00,030 --> 00:52:03,050 And so this year it was much more organized. 1166 00:52:03,050 --> 00:52:05,430 We had everyone in place. 1167 00:52:05,430 --> 00:52:07,970 And in the weeks following the disaster, 1168 00:52:07,970 --> 00:52:12,150 gem was able to distribute and deliver supplies to residents 1169 00:52:12,150 --> 00:52:17,140 and other voids and curd together is very excited we are 1170 00:52:17,140 --> 00:52:21,120 working towards our 501(c)3, our non-profit status, 1171 00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:24,440 and so we are just waiting on our IRS determination letter. 1172 00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:29,500 And so right now gem is curd together 1173 00:52:29,500 --> 00:52:35,440 financial fiscal sponsor as we mature as a nonprofit. 1174 00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:40,340 1175 00:52:40,340 --> 00:52:42,380 As I said from last year, we really 1176 00:52:42,380 --> 00:52:45,260 learned how important it was. 1177 00:52:45,260 --> 00:52:47,420 Kurt together and Kurt EDC were well 1178 00:52:47,420 --> 00:52:50,300 aware of the economic damages from disasters 1179 00:52:50,300 --> 00:52:53,060 and the high number of businesses that don't survive. 1180 00:52:53,060 --> 00:52:55,920 And so that became a really high priority. 1181 00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,860 And one of our great partners during this time 1182 00:52:58,860 --> 00:53:00,040 has been lift fund. 1183 00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:01,080 So lift fund. 1184 00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:06,800 From the 2025 fund, flood was able to distribute nearly $20 1185 00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:08,760 million in grants and loans. 1186 00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:12,480 And then whenever the 26 flood occurred, 1187 00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,610 they shifted some additional loan money 1188 00:53:15,610 --> 00:53:18,110 that they had that they had just started distributing, 1189 00:53:18,110 --> 00:53:19,470 and they shifted that to grants. 1190 00:53:19,470 --> 00:53:22,590 And those were $10,000 grants at the time. 1191 00:53:22,590 --> 00:53:25,130 And then we were blessed by the Community 1192 00:53:25,130 --> 00:53:31,230 Foundation, who granted another 5 million to be towards grants. 1193 00:53:31,230 --> 00:53:37,010 And so those grants are a maximum of 50,000 that. 1194 00:53:37,010 --> 00:53:40,110 That application closed, I believe either Thursday. 1195 00:53:40,110 --> 00:53:41,550 It closed last week. 1196 00:53:41,550 --> 00:53:44,070 And so there were 103 applicants. 1197 00:53:44,070 --> 00:53:46,770 And so that money should be distributed 1198 00:53:46,770 --> 00:53:48,190 as soon as next week. 1199 00:53:48,190 --> 00:53:53,130 1200 00:53:53,130 --> 00:53:56,150 So the remaining critical needs at this point. 1201 00:53:56,150 --> 00:53:58,810 So we continue to connect with the various 1202 00:53:58,810 --> 00:54:01,750 with various funding sources to secure votes, 1203 00:54:01,750 --> 00:54:04,250 secure vote activity. 1204 00:54:04,250 --> 00:54:08,290 Light on the Hill is still funding 1205 00:54:08,290 --> 00:54:13,780 emergency financial assistance public assistance. 1206 00:54:13,780 --> 00:54:17,000 So we are still working with the city and County 1207 00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,460 on what infrastructure needs they have, 1208 00:54:19,460 --> 00:54:21,800 as Mr. Horn has laid out. 1209 00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:22,980 Temporary housing. 1210 00:54:22,980 --> 00:54:25,840 We are collaborating with emergency 1211 00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:30,400 housing funds and other temporary housing solutions. 1212 00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:32,180 We're getting creative. 1213 00:54:32,180 --> 00:54:33,980 We're looking into some RVs. 1214 00:54:33,980 --> 00:54:37,360 I had a conversation with Drew just 1215 00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,640 clarifying where RVs could and could 1216 00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,400 not be within the city limits. 1217 00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:47,160 And so we're also working with the Parks Department 1218 00:54:47,160 --> 00:54:48,620 to see what that would look like. 1219 00:54:48,620 --> 00:54:52,280 If we need someone to be in an RV for a longer stay, 1220 00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:55,120 and if that would be possible at Ksp and what 1221 00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:58,360 those funding requirements would be. 1222 00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:01,320 Some more creative underlining concerns. 1223 00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:05,500 Agriculture there is not many resources for agriculture. 1224 00:55:05,500 --> 00:55:08,680 We kind of knew this last year from the disaster 1225 00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:13,010 between Agrilife and the Texas Department of agriculture. 1226 00:55:13,010 --> 00:55:17,990 Those are your only two sources, and it is not quick 1227 00:55:17,990 --> 00:55:20,390 and it's a little cumbersome. 1228 00:55:20,390 --> 00:55:23,990 So we're still working through a lot of fences down 1229 00:55:23,990 --> 00:55:26,430 and stuff like that. 1230 00:55:26,430 --> 00:55:28,550 Mold remediation. 1231 00:55:28,550 --> 00:55:31,230 We're working to collaborate with some workshops 1232 00:55:31,230 --> 00:55:32,730 with some of the voids. 1233 00:55:32,730 --> 00:55:38,070 The free options I have are not quick and the now options 1234 00:55:38,070 --> 00:55:39,330 are expensive. 1235 00:55:39,330 --> 00:55:42,150 So y'all know how that works. 1236 00:55:42,150 --> 00:55:43,210 Private roads. 1237 00:55:43,210 --> 00:55:45,150 We are still assessing private roads 1238 00:55:45,150 --> 00:55:48,010 and trying to understand what that looks like. 1239 00:55:48,010 --> 00:55:51,670 Between finding the equipment, a license 1240 00:55:51,670 --> 00:55:54,210 operator material and fuel. 1241 00:55:54,210 --> 00:55:57,170 Putting all those four together takes some time. 1242 00:55:57,170 --> 00:55:59,830 1243 00:55:59,830 --> 00:56:02,430 And then the key things that occur together needs 1244 00:56:02,430 --> 00:56:06,310 to try to officially transition into recovery 1245 00:56:06,310 --> 00:56:09,140 is connecting with all the individuals 1246 00:56:09,140 --> 00:56:11,820 and understanding their needs. 1247 00:56:11,820 --> 00:56:15,180 Continuing our collaboration with city, city and County 1248 00:56:15,180 --> 00:56:18,820 staff on infrastructure. 1249 00:56:18,820 --> 00:56:21,440 Continuing to engage with our ads. 1250 00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:24,920 And lastly, FEMA individual assistance. 1251 00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:29,900 So I think as city council and the County commissioners 1252 00:56:29,900 --> 00:56:32,900 and our Governmental Affairs and everyone 1253 00:56:32,900 --> 00:56:38,140 for collaborating with our state and federal representatives 1254 00:56:38,140 --> 00:56:41,240 and really pushing for this declaration. 1255 00:56:41,240 --> 00:56:43,980 1256 00:56:43,980 --> 00:56:47,420 And with that, any questions. 1257 00:56:47,420 --> 00:56:48,320 I'll just. 1258 00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,160 Sorry you're fine. 1259 00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,640 I just want to thank you, Kelly, because I had. 1260 00:56:52,640 --> 00:56:55,220 1261 00:56:55,220 --> 00:56:57,680 I'm just going to claim I can't see what's going on. 1262 00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,300 1263 00:57:00,300 --> 00:57:01,760 You were nice enough to let me come in, 1264 00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:03,300 because what happens is on the street when 1265 00:57:03,300 --> 00:57:07,210 you go visit these neighborhoods again, they have more questions. 1266 00:57:07,210 --> 00:57:10,530 Different questions and misinformation. 1267 00:57:10,530 --> 00:57:15,090 So I'm really anytime I think y'all needed to go visit with 1268 00:57:15,090 --> 00:57:18,250 Kelly or someone I try to make it convenient for you because I 1269 00:57:18,250 --> 00:57:21,690 know you're extremely busy, but it really helped me that day 1270 00:57:21,690 --> 00:57:24,010 to get even some of this information you're giving us 1271 00:57:24,010 --> 00:57:29,010 now, so that we can relay that to the public and start to give 1272 00:57:29,010 --> 00:57:30,910 them some hope and some confidence that, 1273 00:57:30,910 --> 00:57:34,190 yes, you're on the radar, that we're working on this debris. 1274 00:57:34,190 --> 00:57:37,870 We're working on all of these things as best we can, 1275 00:57:37,870 --> 00:57:39,170 as fast as we can. 1276 00:57:39,170 --> 00:57:41,310 And the money coming in helped. 1277 00:57:41,310 --> 00:57:45,850 I mean, getting those numbers to was a boost in the confidence 1278 00:57:45,850 --> 00:57:47,810 that we're going to get through this. 1279 00:57:47,810 --> 00:57:49,350 So thank you very much. 1280 00:57:49,350 --> 00:57:52,290 Thank you crystal. 1281 00:57:52,290 --> 00:57:56,450 No, thank you for all your very thorough updates. 1282 00:57:56,450 --> 00:57:57,530 No you're welcome. 1283 00:57:57,530 --> 00:57:58,930 Work that you're doing. 1284 00:57:58,930 --> 00:58:02,130 Thanks yeah I agree. 1285 00:58:02,130 --> 00:58:03,510 Thanks very much. 1286 00:58:03,510 --> 00:58:08,140 It's still amazing that Kirk is doing such a great job, 1287 00:58:08,140 --> 00:58:11,220 and it's a little comforting in a way. 1288 00:58:11,220 --> 00:58:15,660 We've got another disaster, but we're up and running already, 1289 00:58:15,660 --> 00:58:20,000 so appreciate all the hard work and the coordination 1290 00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:21,620 that you're getting accomplished. 1291 00:58:21,620 --> 00:58:23,400 Thank you. 1292 00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:25,500 Yeah I hate to be this guy. 1293 00:58:25,500 --> 00:58:26,480 No that's OK. 1294 00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:30,120 Can you go back a couple of slides to the left. 1295 00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:31,360 Which one. 1296 00:58:31,360 --> 00:58:33,500 Talking about the lift fund and the amount of money. 1297 00:58:33,500 --> 00:58:39,640 And keep going right there. 1298 00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:41,180 So I understand the grants. 1299 00:58:41,180 --> 00:58:43,600 Grants don't get paid back. 1300 00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:46,380 Let's talk about this center section here that says loans. 1301 00:58:46,380 --> 00:58:51,200 $11,883,539 in loans. 1302 00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:56,480 I have been asked numerous times by people in the community, 1303 00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:58,580 was that their money from the get go. 1304 00:58:58,580 --> 00:58:59,580 Did they have that. 1305 00:58:59,580 --> 00:59:01,280 Is that what they're loaning, or did they 1306 00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:06,410 get that from other places and they're making loans off of it. 1307 00:59:06,410 --> 00:59:08,190 And are they charging interest. 1308 00:59:08,190 --> 00:59:11,510 Are they basically getting $12 million 1309 00:59:11,510 --> 00:59:15,470 in New business because of a disaster. 1310 00:59:15,470 --> 00:59:17,930 I am not bashing the fund. 1311 00:59:17,930 --> 00:59:20,190 I am so glad they're here. 1312 00:59:20,190 --> 00:59:22,630 They stood up and talked about the grants, 1313 00:59:22,630 --> 00:59:27,630 but this came up last year in the very beginning when 1314 00:59:27,630 --> 00:59:30,410 the foundation was giving out grants and people were saying, 1315 00:59:30,410 --> 00:59:33,190 oh, it's loans, it's loans, and they got to pay it back. 1316 00:59:33,190 --> 00:59:35,370 That is not the case with the foundation. 1317 00:59:35,370 --> 00:59:37,330 But right here, it says loans and Kelly, 1318 00:59:37,330 --> 00:59:39,010 I'm not trying to bash anything. 1319 00:59:39,010 --> 00:59:41,550 I'm just people ask I need to ask 1320 00:59:41,550 --> 00:59:43,670 a question for the citizens of Kerrville 1321 00:59:43,670 --> 00:59:46,790 about why it says loans. 1322 00:59:46,790 --> 00:59:49,710 Yeah and how is the money. 1323 00:59:49,710 --> 00:59:52,030 Are they loaning only to Kerr County and comfort 1324 00:59:52,030 --> 00:59:53,750 to make sure it stays here. 1325 00:59:53,750 --> 00:59:56,190 And when that money comes back in, it gets paid off. 1326 00:59:56,190 --> 00:59:59,070 Are they loaning that money back out to people of Kerr, 1327 00:59:59,070 --> 01:00:01,050 Kerrville and comfort area. 1328 01:00:01,050 --> 01:00:05,240 So I can probably answer some of your questions, not all of them. 1329 01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:09,380 And I can definitely get you more information from the lift 1330 01:00:09,380 --> 01:00:11,460 fund to answer those questions, because those 1331 01:00:11,460 --> 01:00:13,940 really are valid questions because we 1332 01:00:13,940 --> 01:00:16,780 have worked through that also. 1333 01:00:16,780 --> 01:00:20,540 And so the majority of their loans 1334 01:00:20,540 --> 01:00:23,780 have been in Kerr County and comfort 1335 01:00:23,780 --> 01:00:25,960 just at this time because we've been working with them. 1336 01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:30,480 But they are a national company who does help during disasters. 1337 01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:36,440 Lift fund also can be utilized not in disaster. 1338 01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:39,420 So actually Curry DC has is looking 1339 01:00:39,420 --> 01:00:43,260 at also partnering with them to help businesses to understand 1340 01:00:43,260 --> 01:00:47,260 business plans and just becoming more financially secure 1341 01:00:47,260 --> 01:00:50,940 and thinking about different ways to set up your business 1342 01:00:50,940 --> 01:00:55,020 and just being ready and better prepared financially. 1343 01:00:55,020 --> 01:00:58,060 The majority of those loans, I believe, 1344 01:00:58,060 --> 01:01:00,250 were actually the interest. 1345 01:01:00,250 --> 01:01:03,010 There were 0 interest loans, so the money 1346 01:01:03,010 --> 01:01:07,810 that was donated to the fund was to buy down that interest so 1347 01:01:07,810 --> 01:01:09,990 that whenever people were paying back, 1348 01:01:09,990 --> 01:01:15,490 it was just the principal, not the interest. 1349 01:01:15,490 --> 01:01:18,430 I did not do well in finance class, 1350 01:01:18,430 --> 01:01:23,490 but that is how I understand it in the best layman's term. 1351 01:01:23,490 --> 01:01:26,710 It's just one of those questions that's being asked, 1352 01:01:26,710 --> 01:01:32,510 and it's a sore subject that the perception, I guess, 1353 01:01:32,510 --> 01:01:37,250 is they have a disaster and there's a company that comes in 1354 01:01:37,250 --> 01:01:39,290 to help on one side, but then they're 1355 01:01:39,290 --> 01:01:41,630 loaning on the other side to be paid back. 1356 01:01:41,630 --> 01:01:43,330 So yes. 1357 01:01:43,330 --> 01:01:45,850 And we had the same conversations 1358 01:01:45,850 --> 01:01:47,430 with some of the banks too. 1359 01:01:47,430 --> 01:01:53,170 And so there were many that were encouraged to talk to your bank 1360 01:01:53,170 --> 01:01:56,810 first, see what type of loan options and what percentage 1361 01:01:56,810 --> 01:01:59,550 they can give you and even lift. 1362 01:01:59,550 --> 01:02:01,230 One was very honest about that. 1363 01:02:01,230 --> 01:02:02,750 Talk to your bank first. 1364 01:02:02,750 --> 01:02:05,770 See what if they can maybe work with you. 1365 01:02:05,770 --> 01:02:10,370 But some companies did find that the loan option just because 1366 01:02:10,370 --> 01:02:13,250 of that 0% interest, because that funding that was given 1367 01:02:13,250 --> 01:02:17,090 was specifically to buy down the interest of the loans just 1368 01:02:17,090 --> 01:02:18,190 work better for them. 1369 01:02:18,190 --> 01:02:21,970 But I'll work with Adrian and I'll get some more 1370 01:02:21,970 --> 01:02:25,370 definite answers for you. 1371 01:02:25,370 --> 01:02:27,930 Any other comments or questions. 1372 01:02:27,930 --> 01:02:28,710 Thank you ma'am. 1373 01:02:28,710 --> 01:02:29,350 Thank you. 1374 01:02:29,350 --> 01:02:32,050 1375 01:02:32,050 --> 01:02:34,030 To see MS Behrens. 1376 01:02:34,030 --> 01:02:42,850 All right. 1377 01:02:42,850 --> 01:02:43,730 Good afternoon, Mayor. 1378 01:02:43,730 --> 01:02:47,030 Council I'll keep it kind of brief on this, 1379 01:02:47,030 --> 01:02:50,470 but we'll do a quick rundown on our curbside collection update. 1380 01:02:50,470 --> 01:02:55,170 As we've been talking about earlier from day one, 1381 01:02:55,170 --> 01:02:57,280 we start looking at flood debris management. 1382 01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:58,640 So we start looking at how we can 1383 01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:01,420 develop systems for public input through surveys, 1384 01:03:01,420 --> 01:03:03,360 emails, phone calls. 1385 01:03:03,360 --> 01:03:06,033 I want to recognize Stephanie Daley and Angela North, who's 1386 01:03:06,033 --> 01:03:07,600 on the other side of the wall, who they've been 1387 01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:09,640 the frontline folks of taking hundreds 1388 01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:12,900 of calls and guiding people in the right direction for that. 1389 01:03:12,900 --> 01:03:16,400 So that's critical in any kind of management process. 1390 01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:18,380 Also evaluate our existing resources. 1391 01:03:18,380 --> 01:03:20,720 What do we have in place. 1392 01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:22,420 We do have a solid waste program. 1393 01:03:22,420 --> 01:03:24,280 We're able to utilize that. 1394 01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:27,200 Volunteers were here already on the ground coordinating that 1395 01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:29,840 with Kelly and her team out there 1396 01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:33,000 offering guidance on placement of items at the curb. 1397 01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:34,620 Doesn't matter if we're going to pick it up, 1398 01:03:34,620 --> 01:03:35,900 a third party is going to pick it up. 1399 01:03:35,900 --> 01:03:38,247 There's guidelines on putting stuff out at the curb, 1400 01:03:38,247 --> 01:03:40,180 and those were the initial questions that we were getting. 1401 01:03:40,180 --> 01:03:42,960 So we got to have that information available. 1402 01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:46,000 Also evaluate the options for expanded collections 1403 01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:47,640 when that becomes available. 1404 01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:50,580 And then last but not least is secure funding. 1405 01:03:50,580 --> 01:03:52,160 How do we manage the cost. 1406 01:03:52,160 --> 01:03:55,510 So we've already looking at those on the back end. 1407 01:03:55,510 --> 01:03:59,670 And then so our initial debris management initiatives, 1408 01:03:59,670 --> 01:04:03,670 we issued over 750 vouchers since July 16. 1409 01:04:03,670 --> 01:04:08,470 We typically issue about 150 to 200 vouchers a month. 1410 01:04:08,470 --> 01:04:09,890 So we've issued 750. 1411 01:04:09,890 --> 01:04:13,330 And those all go through Stephanie and Angela. 1412 01:04:13,330 --> 01:04:16,590 So they've been pretty busy with just that aspect of it. 1413 01:04:16,590 --> 01:04:18,910 We were able to obtain 14 dumpsters 1414 01:04:18,910 --> 01:04:22,070 that I was able to place in high volume areas. 1415 01:04:22,070 --> 01:04:26,550 Those were donated and provided quick response on deliveries. 1416 01:04:26,550 --> 01:04:29,210 That made it challenging because everybody wanted a dumpster, 1417 01:04:29,210 --> 01:04:30,910 but I had to make sure I place a dumpster 1418 01:04:30,910 --> 01:04:33,710 where I can have several homes or properties utilize 1419 01:04:33,710 --> 01:04:35,270 that dumpster. 1420 01:04:35,270 --> 01:04:36,590 We coordinated with curr together 1421 01:04:36,590 --> 01:04:38,130 for assistance with volunteers. 1422 01:04:38,130 --> 01:04:40,390 I can place dumpsters at the curb. 1423 01:04:40,390 --> 01:04:41,650 Who's going to load them up. 1424 01:04:41,650 --> 01:04:43,390 And I didn't want the people that just went 1425 01:04:43,390 --> 01:04:46,530 through, what with the flood, to have to load their own stuff up. 1426 01:04:46,530 --> 01:04:49,870 So we've had many volunteers as Kelly mentioned 1427 01:04:49,870 --> 01:04:52,700 in her slide, Team Rubicon. 1428 01:04:52,700 --> 01:04:54,380 All hands and hearts. 1429 01:04:54,380 --> 01:04:56,780 We had Texans on a mission. 1430 01:04:56,780 --> 01:04:59,640 We also had private companies assisting with equipment. 1431 01:04:59,640 --> 01:05:01,180 Have folks from creative solutions 1432 01:05:01,180 --> 01:05:04,540 that helped load up three or four dumpsters already. 1433 01:05:04,540 --> 01:05:06,660 I talked to them when I was out surveying 1434 01:05:06,660 --> 01:05:08,320 and I said, do you mind helping me out. 1435 01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:09,720 And they said, yes, I'll help you out. 1436 01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:12,940 So they were able to get some equipment out there and load 1437 01:05:12,940 --> 01:05:15,220 up those dumpsters for us. 1438 01:05:15,220 --> 01:05:19,800 We were able to remove 420yd which is a little over 30 tons, 1439 01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:21,700 is what we did with that initial program 1440 01:05:21,700 --> 01:05:24,020 with the roll-off dumpsters. 1441 01:05:24,020 --> 01:05:25,700 Also, our city crew removed debris 1442 01:05:25,700 --> 01:05:27,740 from 18 right of way sites. 1443 01:05:27,740 --> 01:05:30,780 We did that kind of a little pilot program 1444 01:05:30,780 --> 01:05:33,080 ahead of what we just started yesterday, right. 1445 01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:36,900 So this is all it's been done before our official Citywide 1446 01:05:36,900 --> 01:05:39,560 curbside collection, all that. 1447 01:05:39,560 --> 01:05:42,140 It's running parallel with us obtaining the data. 1448 01:05:42,140 --> 01:05:44,000 Well, I'm obtaining data, the surveys, 1449 01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:45,460 verifying all that stuff. 1450 01:05:45,460 --> 01:05:47,320 We're out doing this right initially. 1451 01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:51,490 So we have been putting some work out there. 1452 01:05:51,490 --> 01:05:54,350 So implementing the curbside collection program, 1453 01:05:54,350 --> 01:05:56,270 we communicated with Cheatham for guidance. 1454 01:05:56,270 --> 01:05:59,650 Julie and I met with them looking at third party 1455 01:05:59,650 --> 01:06:01,110 operations and timelines. 1456 01:06:01,110 --> 01:06:04,070 What does that look like to get a third party to come in here. 1457 01:06:04,070 --> 01:06:06,290 There's a lot of boxes that need to be checked. 1458 01:06:06,290 --> 01:06:09,470 It's a lengthy process in order to follow FEMA guidelines. 1459 01:06:09,470 --> 01:06:12,730 So we also looked at our operational transition 1460 01:06:12,730 --> 01:06:15,650 from emergency operations in public works. 1461 01:06:15,650 --> 01:06:17,650 Now that things are stabilized, what are our resources 1462 01:06:17,650 --> 01:06:18,230 look like. 1463 01:06:18,230 --> 01:06:20,490 What can we do now to pivot from that 1464 01:06:20,490 --> 01:06:23,290 and assist with this collection program 1465 01:06:23,290 --> 01:06:25,750 with these gentlemen here in streets and figured out, OK, 1466 01:06:25,750 --> 01:06:27,810 are we going to be able to handle this. 1467 01:06:27,810 --> 01:06:30,370 And keep in mind, we had already been surveying the whole city 1468 01:06:30,370 --> 01:06:31,270 on what's out there. 1469 01:06:31,270 --> 01:06:34,250 So we had a good idea of what's out there and it was manageable. 1470 01:06:34,250 --> 01:06:36,610 We felt that we can handle that on our own. 1471 01:06:36,610 --> 01:06:38,570 So we established a systematic process 1472 01:06:38,570 --> 01:06:41,210 to identify, document, verify and map 1473 01:06:41,210 --> 01:06:43,010 out areas throughout town. 1474 01:06:43,010 --> 01:06:44,530 That survey right there on the right hand 1475 01:06:44,530 --> 01:06:46,970 side that was available online. 1476 01:06:46,970 --> 01:06:51,700 I want to thank Josh and giz coordinated. 1477 01:06:51,700 --> 01:06:54,680 Help out with that and get that online so folks can submit stuff 1478 01:06:54,680 --> 01:06:56,200 because that's important for us to be 1479 01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:59,840 able to gauge what's out there. 1480 01:06:59,840 --> 01:07:01,260 So the community feedback. 1481 01:07:01,260 --> 01:07:05,640 So we did obtain several surveys over 100. 1482 01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:07,020 We got that data. 1483 01:07:07,020 --> 01:07:08,520 And then we created our work orders 1484 01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:10,780 to identify certain areas throughout town, 1485 01:07:10,780 --> 01:07:11,780 as you can see right there. 1486 01:07:11,780 --> 01:07:14,960 So you'll see looking for clusters high volume areas. 1487 01:07:14,960 --> 01:07:19,360 Any safety concerns allowed us and our staff and Daniel, Chris 1488 01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:20,920 and other folks were out taking pictures 1489 01:07:20,920 --> 01:07:24,940 and verifying loads and coming up with this kind of a heat map, 1490 01:07:24,940 --> 01:07:26,360 if you will. 1491 01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:29,240 And also, we were looking at removing any duplicates or piles 1492 01:07:29,240 --> 01:07:32,100 that were no longer at the curb and then at the end, 1493 01:07:32,100 --> 01:07:34,520 results create efficient routes. 1494 01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:41,640 So this is all important as we start our curbside program. 1495 01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:45,540 And then we followed up with our strategic city crew collection. 1496 01:07:45,540 --> 01:07:48,310 We decided for us to handle this. 1497 01:07:48,310 --> 01:07:51,550 We evaluated the equipment, resources. 1498 01:07:51,550 --> 01:07:52,890 Spoke to these guys here and said, 1499 01:07:52,890 --> 01:07:54,970 let's get a specialized team to focus on this mission. 1500 01:07:54,970 --> 01:07:56,510 That way it's a core group, and that's 1501 01:07:56,510 --> 01:07:59,270 what they're going to be doing for the next couple of weeks. 1502 01:07:59,270 --> 01:08:01,610 We also had equipment available from Parks and rec. 1503 01:08:01,610 --> 01:08:02,290 Jay still here. 1504 01:08:02,290 --> 01:08:03,610 Thanks for letting us borrow that. 1505 01:08:03,610 --> 01:08:06,350 That grappler unit work together, helping each other out 1506 01:08:06,350 --> 01:08:07,610 through various departments. 1507 01:08:07,610 --> 01:08:09,830 So that was very beneficial. 1508 01:08:09,830 --> 01:08:12,990 We do have an additional unit coming in. 1509 01:08:12,990 --> 01:08:13,530 It's here. 1510 01:08:13,530 --> 01:08:14,210 It's here today. 1511 01:08:14,210 --> 01:08:15,310 So it's here. 1512 01:08:15,310 --> 01:08:18,270 So we're able to duplicate our efforts 1513 01:08:18,270 --> 01:08:21,229 and hopefully move things a little bit quicker. 1514 01:08:21,229 --> 01:08:23,270 Also again develop the collection 1515 01:08:23,270 --> 01:08:26,830 routes based on the submissions that we've received. 1516 01:08:26,830 --> 01:08:29,170 We also are conducting daily recaps. 1517 01:08:29,170 --> 01:08:31,330 I know yesterday we kicked off our collection, 1518 01:08:31,330 --> 01:08:33,750 we were able to pick up 7 loads. 1519 01:08:33,750 --> 01:08:37,470 About 2 and 1/2 tons is what we collected yesterday. 1520 01:08:37,470 --> 01:08:42,370 I know it doesn't sound 6.9 at the end of today, 1521 01:08:42,370 --> 01:08:44,260 so we're making progress. 1522 01:08:44,260 --> 01:08:47,340 So we'll continue to have those daily recaps 1523 01:08:47,340 --> 01:08:49,640 to make sure that things are running efficiently out there. 1524 01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:51,533 We're running into any concerns, anything 1525 01:08:51,533 --> 01:08:52,800 out there that we need to be aware of. 1526 01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:55,399 So we can alter our operations. 1527 01:08:55,399 --> 01:08:57,240 But so far things are going great. 1528 01:08:57,240 --> 01:09:01,899 And you'll see on the right side just a quick snapshot 1529 01:09:01,899 --> 01:09:04,620 of the data that we're collecting so that we 1530 01:09:04,620 --> 01:09:08,020 can operate efficiently. 1531 01:09:08,020 --> 01:09:11,380 So the initial sweep began yesterday began 1532 01:09:11,380 --> 01:09:13,460 on the West West Side of town. 1533 01:09:13,460 --> 01:09:15,500 We'll be heading East. 1534 01:09:15,500 --> 01:09:19,540 As we mentioned, press releases and different messages as we're 1535 01:09:19,540 --> 01:09:21,880 collecting flood related debris. 1536 01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:23,580 We want to emphasize that to everybody 1537 01:09:23,580 --> 01:09:26,380 that it's flood related debris. 1538 01:09:26,380 --> 01:09:30,020 Household items, construction debris, things like that. 1539 01:09:30,020 --> 01:09:35,300 Now we're not collecting brush or household hazardous items. 1540 01:09:35,300 --> 01:09:38,979 Brush is going to be conducted at a different phase. 1541 01:09:38,979 --> 01:09:41,760 So I'll touch on what Republic is doing. 1542 01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:42,450 Costume Republic. 1543 01:09:42,450 --> 01:09:44,010 That's our solid waste program. 1544 01:09:44,010 --> 01:09:45,990 That's utilizing one of our resources. 1545 01:09:45,990 --> 01:09:49,410 So as our crews are moving from West to East picking up 1546 01:09:49,410 --> 01:09:53,689 this debris, Republic will start their brush collection 1547 01:09:53,689 --> 01:09:55,650 second week in September. 1548 01:09:55,650 --> 01:09:59,110 And then once then we'll follow back after them. 1549 01:09:59,110 --> 01:10:02,090 They're going to pick up what's allowed per our contract. 1550 01:10:02,090 --> 01:10:05,630 So that's helping us get some of this debris picked up by them. 1551 01:10:05,630 --> 01:10:07,990 And then we'll follow along pick up any remaining. 1552 01:10:07,990 --> 01:10:11,730 So that's how this phase is going to work for this brush. 1553 01:10:11,730 --> 01:10:14,350 And again we'll stay on Route during this phase. 1554 01:10:14,350 --> 01:10:17,410 And staff will be confirming cleared streets. 1555 01:10:17,410 --> 01:10:17,910 That way. 1556 01:10:17,910 --> 01:10:20,510 We don't have any folks that say, our stuff was out there, 1557 01:10:20,510 --> 01:10:24,830 so we'll have initial route inspections. 1558 01:10:24,830 --> 01:10:26,150 Then they collect the stuff. 1559 01:10:26,150 --> 01:10:27,770 I'm sorry, I have a question. 1560 01:10:27,770 --> 01:10:29,710 Sorry the green things. 1561 01:10:29,710 --> 01:10:33,770 Are there different actual shapes to. 1562 01:10:33,770 --> 01:10:35,310 Yeah they vary. 1563 01:10:35,310 --> 01:10:37,930 Some of them are they dumpsters or those 1564 01:10:37,930 --> 01:10:38,870 are all the work orders. 1565 01:10:38,870 --> 01:10:41,080 Those are all the OK locations. 1566 01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:41,580 Got it. 1567 01:10:41,580 --> 01:10:43,720 So people submitted their surveys, 1568 01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:47,580 and then we transfer them over to our software that we use. 1569 01:10:47,580 --> 01:10:49,720 And that's how we're able to map out. 1570 01:10:49,720 --> 01:10:50,300 Thank you. 1571 01:10:50,300 --> 01:10:54,080 1572 01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:58,240 And so the next steps finalize the plan for vegetative debris. 1573 01:10:58,240 --> 01:11:01,760 I submitted an application today to the Texas Commission 1574 01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:06,380 on Environmental Quality for the processing site. 1575 01:11:06,380 --> 01:11:09,140 So we're also going to utilize our solid waste program, 1576 01:11:09,140 --> 01:11:10,960 as I mentioned earlier. 1577 01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:13,180 And then we'll develop those routes. 1578 01:11:13,180 --> 01:11:14,380 There's going to be new submissions. 1579 01:11:14,380 --> 01:11:15,520 They're going to be coming in. 1580 01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:17,040 So we're going to review them and verify them 1581 01:11:17,040 --> 01:11:18,680 just like we did in the past. 1582 01:11:18,680 --> 01:11:21,600 And then important thing here is for us to continue tracking 1583 01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:23,640 all operations and expenses. 1584 01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:27,940 Our work order software is it's actually coming in handy. 1585 01:11:27,940 --> 01:11:29,640 It's helping out with our routes. 1586 01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:32,500 We're having pictures document as much stuff as we can, 1587 01:11:32,500 --> 01:11:34,320 attach invoices. 1588 01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:37,240 I talked to Angel during our meeting 1589 01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:39,330 and he was impressed with what we already have. 1590 01:11:39,330 --> 01:11:40,370 He's like, oh, you guys are. 1591 01:11:40,370 --> 01:11:43,270 Yeah you have a good system already in place. 1592 01:11:43,270 --> 01:11:47,270 So also continued public education and update. 1593 01:11:47,270 --> 01:11:49,430 Update the public accordingly with what we've done 1594 01:11:49,430 --> 01:11:51,570 and what we're going to be doing in the future. 1595 01:11:51,570 --> 01:11:54,270 So we've done quite a bit, but there's still 1596 01:11:54,270 --> 01:11:55,990 a lot of work ahead of us. 1597 01:11:55,990 --> 01:11:59,250 But without our systems in place, the volunteers, 1598 01:11:59,250 --> 01:12:01,650 dedicated staff having a good system here, 1599 01:12:01,650 --> 01:12:03,450 I think that makes things possible. 1600 01:12:03,450 --> 01:12:07,550 So very proud of everybody who's helped out to this point 1601 01:12:07,550 --> 01:12:12,350 and at this time, take any questions you may have. 1602 01:12:12,350 --> 01:12:17,510 Well, I thought first questions, comments I do not thank 1603 01:12:17,510 --> 01:12:20,070 you for all your team is doing. 1604 01:12:20,070 --> 01:12:21,070 I'm seeing it. 1605 01:12:21,070 --> 01:12:21,570 Thank you. 1606 01:12:21,570 --> 01:12:25,030 Very impressed with what you've all 1607 01:12:25,030 --> 01:12:26,810 got coordinated and organized. 1608 01:12:26,810 --> 01:12:29,750 And so thanks for doing the good work. 1609 01:12:29,750 --> 01:12:30,430 You're welcome. 1610 01:12:30,430 --> 01:12:32,250 Thank you David. 1611 01:12:32,250 --> 01:12:34,330 First thank you Brandon. 1612 01:12:34,330 --> 01:12:36,640 Thank you Chris everybody. 1613 01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:39,500 Gentlemen, thank you all for. 1614 01:12:39,500 --> 01:12:41,380 The question's been asked. 1615 01:12:41,380 --> 01:12:44,060 Michael and I discussed it. 1616 01:12:44,060 --> 01:12:51,360 I know the answer, but it's just what took so long. 1617 01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:52,440 Who's paying for this. 1618 01:12:52,440 --> 01:12:54,080 I know the answer to what took so long. 1619 01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:54,800 Don't answer that. 1620 01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:56,180 I'm not asking. 1621 01:12:56,180 --> 01:12:59,200 But this is something the city is doing right now. 1622 01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:03,540 Because I'm just saying it for the public to hear. 1623 01:13:03,540 --> 01:13:05,900 But we don't have FEMA. 1624 01:13:05,900 --> 01:13:06,840 FEMA is not here. 1625 01:13:06,840 --> 01:13:07,760 They're not doing anything. 1626 01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:10,340 They even when they do sign the declarations 1627 01:13:10,340 --> 01:13:11,760 and we are still working on that. 1628 01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:15,180 And I know the mayor is pushing us. 1629 01:13:15,180 --> 01:13:19,820 That's 75% And Julie, if I'm stealing some of your thunder 1630 01:13:19,820 --> 01:13:23,180 here, but the city is still going 1631 01:13:23,180 --> 01:13:25,540 to be responsible for 25% of whatever 1632 01:13:25,540 --> 01:13:31,520 the total bill is from town Creek Road to turtle Creek. 1633 01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:32,820 With the infrastructural problems that 1634 01:13:32,820 --> 01:13:35,410 we had to debris cleanup. 1635 01:13:35,410 --> 01:13:37,470 The question was asked, why did it take so long. 1636 01:13:37,470 --> 01:13:40,490 Well we are. 1637 01:13:40,490 --> 01:13:47,170 One month and 9 days from our last disaster. 1638 01:13:47,170 --> 01:13:49,490 It doesn't just happen overnight. 1639 01:13:49,490 --> 01:13:50,770 Your crew. 1640 01:13:50,770 --> 01:13:56,250 All crews are out doing what they need to do. 1641 01:13:56,250 --> 01:14:01,010 Chris, I know you were mucking turtle Creek when the pipe broke 1642 01:14:01,010 --> 01:14:03,690 and everything that had to be brought in to fix 1643 01:14:03,690 --> 01:14:05,450 the sewer line that popped. 1644 01:14:05,450 --> 01:14:08,770 So what took so long is we're trying to get 1645 01:14:08,770 --> 01:14:11,830 our citizens utilities fixed. 1646 01:14:11,830 --> 01:14:12,790 And correct me if I'm wrong. 1647 01:14:12,790 --> 01:14:15,170 Please and I've been wrong before, 1648 01:14:15,170 --> 01:14:17,490 but that's what number one, we got 1649 01:14:17,490 --> 01:14:20,710 to take care of our citizens, get water back to them. 1650 01:14:20,710 --> 01:14:24,130 Thank goodness kpub was on top of it and got everything fixed. 1651 01:14:24,130 --> 01:14:26,130 But sewer. 1652 01:14:26,130 --> 01:14:27,610 That's what's taking so long. 1653 01:14:27,610 --> 01:14:31,370 Second thing is I'm going to quote council member McKinney. 1654 01:14:31,370 --> 01:14:35,120 We don't have the money, but we're doing it. 1655 01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:41,160 So please, just bear with us, bear with your staff, 1656 01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:45,100 and just know that we're trying everything that we can. 1657 01:14:45,100 --> 01:14:47,120 And I don't mean not to look on this side of the road 1658 01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:49,240 either, but. 1659 01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:51,960 But from Michael and Kim and Dalton 1660 01:14:51,960 --> 01:14:54,700 all the way down from everybody upstairs. 1661 01:14:54,700 --> 01:14:55,440 Thank y'all. 1662 01:14:55,440 --> 01:14:57,100 Because it's not an easy task. 1663 01:14:57,100 --> 01:14:59,040 It's not an easy thing to do. 1664 01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:01,400 And then when you're out there trying to do your absolute best 1665 01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:04,460 and help the citizens and you have people making comments, 1666 01:15:04,460 --> 01:15:05,920 it's just right. 1667 01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:06,680 Thank you. 1668 01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:07,300 You're welcome. 1669 01:15:07,300 --> 01:15:09,760 And I'll just make a quick point on that 1670 01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:13,760 is yes, our initial operations were to tend 1671 01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:16,520 to critical infrastructure. 1672 01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:18,340 Across the board in public works. 1673 01:15:18,340 --> 01:15:20,560 I mean we're hit pretty hard. 1674 01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:23,900 So folks are always going to start putting debris out. 1675 01:15:23,900 --> 01:15:26,040 Initially last year the state was 1676 01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:28,320 handling this debris cleanup. 1677 01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:31,460 And they jumped on it right away through their process. 1678 01:15:31,460 --> 01:15:35,080 Even back then, we still had our system in place 1679 01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:38,760 where we told the state we have our addresses ready last year. 1680 01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:41,020 So this year, it's on us. 1681 01:15:41,020 --> 01:15:44,640 We had looked at either a third party or if we can do it either 1682 01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:46,440 way, you have to do things the right way so you 1683 01:15:46,440 --> 01:15:48,880 can seek proper reimbursement. 1684 01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:51,140 So now we're able to pivot towards that. 1685 01:15:51,140 --> 01:15:54,040 And you don't want to initially have a debris cleanup 1686 01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:58,260 right away because you're going to run in circles all day long. 1687 01:15:58,260 --> 01:16:00,460 So I think now it's a systematic approach. 1688 01:16:00,460 --> 01:16:03,840 We're sweeping the city and folks are understanding 1689 01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:06,240 that we've talked to several people that are 1690 01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:07,420 they're very thankful for us. 1691 01:16:07,420 --> 01:16:10,480 They understand we've been busy doing other stuff. 1692 01:16:10,480 --> 01:16:13,480 And so yeah, they're cooperating and they're 1693 01:16:13,480 --> 01:16:16,340 understanding real quick. 1694 01:16:16,340 --> 01:16:18,140 I know I mentioned Stephanie and Angela, 1695 01:16:18,140 --> 01:16:21,080 but also Brandon Kelly, Isaac Rodriguez and Joel miners 1696 01:16:21,080 --> 01:16:21,620 with street. 1697 01:16:21,620 --> 01:16:23,440 So they've been just want to recognize them as well 1698 01:16:23,440 --> 01:16:25,120 for their efforts and being able to pivot 1699 01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:27,780 from all the other street stuff we've been doing. 1700 01:16:27,780 --> 01:16:31,750 This is mainly a solid waste task. 1701 01:16:31,750 --> 01:16:34,150 But we don't have a true solid waste division. 1702 01:16:34,150 --> 01:16:37,450 But these guys from streets have been able to pivot, into that. 1703 01:16:37,450 --> 01:16:41,030 So outside of this we're still tending to regular operations 1704 01:16:41,030 --> 01:16:41,690 that we have to. 1705 01:16:41,690 --> 01:16:44,870 So I just wanted to recognize them as well. 1706 01:16:44,870 --> 01:16:46,450 I guess one last thing. 1707 01:16:46,450 --> 01:16:49,030 I'm sorry. 1708 01:16:49,030 --> 01:16:51,450 Vouchers I know what they are. 1709 01:16:51,450 --> 01:16:53,150 We know what they're for. 1710 01:16:53,150 --> 01:16:54,530 But there's been a lot of comments. 1711 01:16:54,530 --> 01:16:57,510 And it's not the city of Kerrville 1712 01:16:57,510 --> 01:17:00,190 that runs the landfill. 1713 01:17:00,190 --> 01:17:02,150 That's where public waste services. 1714 01:17:02,150 --> 01:17:07,110 And if they say you can't bring drywall in on the vouchers, 1715 01:17:07,110 --> 01:17:11,670 we've got to respect what their rules are. 1716 01:17:11,670 --> 01:17:17,870 But is there any talk of leniency on that from Republic 1717 01:17:17,870 --> 01:17:21,630 for people that have vouchers or have debris that 1718 01:17:21,630 --> 01:17:25,870 needs because it happened again I mean, the mayor, we 1719 01:17:25,870 --> 01:17:29,900 all kind of walked around and saw neighborhoods that had three 1720 01:17:29,900 --> 01:17:32,820 foot of drywall that had to be cut out of the house with, 1721 01:17:32,820 --> 01:17:34,980 wet insulation. 1722 01:17:34,980 --> 01:17:38,620 And they don't take contracting debris on the vouchers, 1723 01:17:38,620 --> 01:17:39,120 is there. 1724 01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:42,000 So that is per our contract. 1725 01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:44,560 And that's something that we'll be looking at, I guess, 1726 01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:47,220 when we do an after action review. 1727 01:17:47,220 --> 01:17:52,060 But Republic has been very helpful in other aspects. 1728 01:17:52,060 --> 01:17:55,780 The voucher system, Republic's not set up to have that in place 1729 01:17:55,780 --> 01:17:58,060 during a disaster recovery. 1730 01:17:58,060 --> 01:18:01,940 It will eat into their numbers right. 1731 01:18:01,940 --> 01:18:03,580 The bottom line. 1732 01:18:03,580 --> 01:18:09,020 This voucher system is meant for just regular, stuff 1733 01:18:09,020 --> 01:18:11,100 that you can bring from the house. 1734 01:18:11,100 --> 01:18:14,240 There's other reasons why they don't allow construction debris. 1735 01:18:14,240 --> 01:18:16,580 Initially people abuse it. 1736 01:18:16,580 --> 01:18:19,360 There's been contractors that have been doing commercial work, 1737 01:18:19,360 --> 01:18:22,120 and they use a voucher from their home, 1738 01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:25,730 and they charge a customer to dispose it, 1739 01:18:25,730 --> 01:18:27,450 and then they come and get their voucher 1740 01:18:27,450 --> 01:18:28,730 and they take construction debris 1741 01:18:28,730 --> 01:18:29,750 and they don't pay for it. 1742 01:18:29,750 --> 01:18:33,130 So there's a lot of those instances that happen. 1743 01:18:33,130 --> 01:18:35,270 And I'm not saying just here just in general from there, 1744 01:18:35,270 --> 01:18:36,270 there are corporate companies. 1745 01:18:36,270 --> 01:18:39,110 So they have their rules to stand by. 1746 01:18:39,110 --> 01:18:43,250 But I was able to work with Republic on some of the piles 1747 01:18:43,250 --> 01:18:44,550 that go out there and say, OK, look, 1748 01:18:44,550 --> 01:18:46,330 they have construction debris. 1749 01:18:46,330 --> 01:18:48,370 They also have household items. 1750 01:18:48,370 --> 01:18:49,630 Can I use their voucher. 1751 01:18:49,630 --> 01:18:51,490 Leave the construction debris. 1752 01:18:51,490 --> 01:18:52,950 I'll take the other items. 1753 01:18:52,950 --> 01:18:55,150 That's the initial phase that I talked about earlier. 1754 01:18:55,150 --> 01:18:56,230 And they work with me on that. 1755 01:18:56,230 --> 01:18:59,290 Say, yes, I'll let your guys because I'm setting my eyes on I 1756 01:18:59,290 --> 01:19:02,390 said, I'm verifying I took pictures, I have documentation, 1757 01:19:02,390 --> 01:19:04,130 I have all the work orders. 1758 01:19:04,130 --> 01:19:08,370 Those were the initial, I think, 18 sites that we picked up. 1759 01:19:08,370 --> 01:19:09,550 I was able to utilize that. 1760 01:19:09,550 --> 01:19:11,930 So Republic they have been helping out 1761 01:19:11,930 --> 01:19:14,410 and then the remaining stuff is what we're picking up now 1762 01:19:14,410 --> 01:19:17,890 as part of our curbside program. 1763 01:19:17,890 --> 01:19:18,890 Thank you so much. 1764 01:19:18,890 --> 01:19:19,390 Yes, sir. 1765 01:19:19,390 --> 01:19:20,210 You're welcome. 1766 01:19:20,210 --> 01:19:20,990 Any other questions. 1767 01:19:20,990 --> 01:19:21,930 I want to echo. 1768 01:19:21,930 --> 01:19:23,000 Thank you. 1769 01:19:23,000 --> 01:19:23,740 All of you. 1770 01:19:23,740 --> 01:19:26,600 Thank you for all you've done, we'll 1771 01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:27,980 get to Julie in just a SEC. 1772 01:19:27,980 --> 01:19:32,120 But one thing that hasn't been mentioned today that should be 1773 01:19:32,120 --> 01:19:36,600 is the crews that cleared the way for the cemetery 1774 01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:39,240 on town Creek Road. 1775 01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:42,360 I know of two families that had to wait 1776 01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:44,600 to bury their loved ones because there was 1777 01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:46,880 no access to those cemeteries. 1778 01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:49,620 So thank you for helping those families get closure. 1779 01:19:49,620 --> 01:19:52,940 It meant a lot to them and they are really grateful. 1780 01:19:52,940 --> 01:19:54,200 So thank you very much. 1781 01:19:54,200 --> 01:20:03,440 Yeah and for I'll get you and for the picking up the stuff 1782 01:20:03,440 --> 01:20:05,320 and having a plan. 1783 01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:08,700 Not waiting for outside help. 1784 01:20:08,700 --> 01:20:09,860 Thank you for doing that too. 1785 01:20:09,860 --> 01:20:11,240 I really appreciate it. 1786 01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:12,040 Yes, ma'am. 1787 01:20:12,040 --> 01:20:14,820 OK sorry I wasn't pushing you, Brandon. 1788 01:20:14,820 --> 01:20:17,080 I remember you met me at 5:30 last 1789 01:20:17,080 --> 01:20:19,000 year in the morning to block a street 1790 01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:20,500 for the Water Street festival. 1791 01:20:20,500 --> 01:20:22,210 So that's the first time I met you. 1792 01:20:22,210 --> 01:20:25,650 And I remember thinking you were jolly at 5:30. 1793 01:20:25,650 --> 01:20:29,030 I was just very thankful for your help. 1794 01:20:29,030 --> 01:20:30,650 And of course, I need you again this year. 1795 01:20:30,650 --> 01:20:33,990 But thank you for what you're doing above and beyond your Call 1796 01:20:33,990 --> 01:20:35,510 of Duty. 1797 01:20:35,510 --> 01:20:39,030 The question I had was some of the folks I met 1798 01:20:39,030 --> 01:20:41,170 might not still be back in their home. 1799 01:20:41,170 --> 01:20:44,130 And if you were to go to their address, you wouldn't find them. 1800 01:20:44,130 --> 01:20:47,070 So if they don't have access to a computer 1801 01:20:47,070 --> 01:20:49,370 or what should I tell people. 1802 01:20:49,370 --> 01:20:51,870 Should they go to her together for debris 1803 01:20:51,870 --> 01:20:56,350 for to be put on the map or just for an understanding of what 1804 01:20:56,350 --> 01:20:57,930 they will get to put out. 1805 01:20:57,930 --> 01:21:01,710 And I know what it is, but how can they find that. 1806 01:21:01,710 --> 01:21:04,010 So Kelly and I had that conversation earlier, 1807 01:21:04,010 --> 01:21:07,230 and I think we want to continue that as a 1808 01:21:07,230 --> 01:21:08,850 go to communication route. 1809 01:21:08,850 --> 01:21:14,790 But folks can call our office here 830257 8,000. 1810 01:21:14,790 --> 01:21:17,190 And then just ask to speak to somebody in public works 1811 01:21:17,190 --> 01:21:20,640 and 9 times out of 10 10 times out of 10. 1812 01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:22,540 Stephanie will take that call, and then 1813 01:21:22,540 --> 01:21:24,540 she'll be able to direct them or even 1814 01:21:24,540 --> 01:21:26,120 take create a new work order. 1815 01:21:26,120 --> 01:21:28,500 And so yeah, we'll handle it that way. 1816 01:21:28,500 --> 01:21:30,240 Yeah Kelly or through us. 1817 01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:31,900 So either way is fine. 1818 01:21:31,900 --> 01:21:32,880 Thank you very much. 1819 01:21:32,880 --> 01:21:33,580 You're welcome. 1820 01:21:33,580 --> 01:21:35,140 Thank you. 1821 01:21:35,140 --> 01:21:35,640 All right. 1822 01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:36,380 Thank you. 1823 01:21:36,380 --> 01:21:38,620 Julie, are you up. 1824 01:21:38,620 --> 01:21:39,280 I have nothing. 1825 01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:42,780 Unless you have questions, you're listed on the agenda. 1826 01:21:42,780 --> 01:21:44,280 Wow I didn't know you could do that. 1827 01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:45,660 That's great. 1828 01:21:45,660 --> 01:21:46,900 I'm saving my voice. 1829 01:21:46,900 --> 01:21:49,180 All right. 1830 01:21:49,180 --> 01:21:49,680 All right. 1831 01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:54,220 If there's no further questions or comments, 1832 01:21:54,220 --> 01:21:56,120 there's no need to go to executive session. 1833 01:21:56,120 --> 01:22:00,090 I'm going to go ahead and close the workshop at 521. 1834 01:22:00,090 --> 01:22:18,000