[0:00] 
[1:23] Let's get this show started.
[1:26] I'm going to go ahead
and call to order
[1:28] this Kerrville city council
workshop for August 25, 2026.
[1:34] Do we have anybody
signed up to speak.
[1:36] No, sir.
[1:36] Thank you ma'am.
[1:37] Let's go ahead and start
with item, a Mr. Paxton.
[1:41] Good afternoon,
Mayor and council.
[1:43] I'm actually going
to let our animal
[1:45] control officer, Mr. James
Lee, present this to you guys.
[1:49] All right.
[1:49] Thank you.
[1:50] 
[1:55] All right Mr. mayor
council, how are you.
[1:59] Good to see you.
[2:00] I hope to be brief,
informative, and if I'm lucky,
[2:03] I might stumble on
being entertaining.
[2:06] All right.
[2:07] Shall we.
[2:08] All right, so this is a Line, an
update of our animal ordinance,
[2:12] which is section 18
of the ordinance.
[2:15] Our purpose is to make sure that
all of our animal ordinances
[2:17] are in line with the Texas
Health and Safety Code,
[2:20] chapter 821, which is the
Texas State animal laws.
[2:23] Further expanding
definitions to avoid
[2:25] legal ambiguities
or loopholes that we
[2:27] may have had in the past.
[2:30] Turn it on.
[2:32] And to better define
the rules pertaining
[2:35] to feral cats and the guidelines
for registered feral cat
[2:38] caregivers.
[2:39] Here we go.
[2:42] Sorry technical
difficulties up here.
[2:44] No worries.
[2:46] So you used to have
everything done.
[2:47] So the cover topics
will be amended
[2:49] definitions, ones that we're
just changing a little bit.
[2:52] Anything that we've added
additional definitions.
[2:56] Ordinance expansions, things
that were ordering ordinance
[3:00] that maybe were adding
something to give
[3:02] it a little bit more depth.
[3:03] Terminology terminology changes
as well as the feral cat
[3:09] ordinance updates and the
feral cat colony contract,
[3:13] which we'll get to at the end.
[3:16] All right.
[3:16] So some of the definitions that
we've amended is abandonment.
[3:20] We added a fourth
subsection to it
[3:22] that covers abandonment of
an animal at a residence
[3:25] due to a non occupation.
[3:26] So basically someone
moves out of their house
[3:27] and leaves the animal behind.
[3:29] We now have something to cover
that which we didn't before.
[3:32] We have updated the
definition of at large
[3:35] to add more details to it,
covering what an animal is
[3:37] considered at large.
[3:39] By the way, in the Manila
Oaks next to you guys,
[3:42] you'll find a copy of all
the animal ordinance updates,
[3:45] as well as a copy
of the CAT contract
[3:47] for the feral CAT contract.
[3:50] Cat we.
[3:51] Under the definition
of cat, we've
[3:53] added eight new subsections of
defining terminology like you're
[3:57] tipping feral cat, just ones
that we didn't have defined
[4:00] in there, clearly, but now
they're subsections under cat
[4:04] dangerous dog.
[4:05] We added subsection 3, which
ties it to the state definition.
[4:08] That's pretty simple.
[4:10] Requirements for owner
of dangerous dog.
[4:12] We did an Amendment to the
insurance policy amount, upping
[4:15] it from 100,000 to 500,000.
[4:19] Owner we vastly expanded
the definition of owner
[4:22] because ours was
kind of woefully
[4:24] under defined compared
to other cities.
[4:27] So we've expanded
that one quite a bit.
[4:29] It now covers a larger
definition of what ownership can
[4:33] be, since there's a
lot of different ways
[4:35] that somebody can own
an animal commercially
[4:39] for show emancipated
minors, you name it,
[4:42] it's covered in there now.
[4:44] Restraint we've
covered that better.
[4:47] It better defines the
parameters of what constitutes
[4:49] the restraint of an animal.
[4:51] And under tethering.
[4:53] We've added some verbiage
pertaining to property limits
[4:56] because with tethering there's
some distance and length
[4:59] things due to state law.
[5:00] But if those distance and
lengths allow the animal to go
[5:03] past property limits, we've
now added language which covers
[5:06] that, saying that they can't.
[5:07] The tether should not let
them leave the property line.
[5:10] 
[5:13] Oh, you jumped and jumped back.
[5:15] There we go.
[5:17] Additional definitions.
[5:19] Animal dealer.
[5:20] We didn't have one for that.
[5:20] We now have that
defined in there.
[5:22] Animal establishment.
[5:24] That's for pet stores
things like that.
[5:25] We now have that in there.
[5:27] Animal exhibition think
circus or some type
[5:29] show where you
can have a trained
[5:30] animals that's now in there.
[5:33] Animal services facility.
[5:35] For some reason, we
didn't have that.
[5:36] But now we do assistance animal.
[5:39] We now have that
clearly defined in there
[5:40] and the term pet animal, which
so somebody declares it a pet.
[5:44] We now have a definition
of what that means.
[5:47] And then the definition for
quarantine, which of course,
[5:49] would be tied to a
zoonotic disease or rabies
[5:52] containment type thing.
[5:56] Ordinance expansions like
that little guy's belly there.
[5:59] So we have 1831, which
is nuisances originally.
[6:03] We are now making
it public nuisances.
[6:05] We've added a couple
of subsections to that.
[6:08] Adding some new clarifications
under there of different things
[6:11] that could be
considered nuisances.
[6:14] Giving us a little
bit more enforcement
[6:16] opportunity on
situations that we didn't
[6:18] have in the past if we need it.
[6:20] 1832 feral cat management.
[6:23] We've clarified some
new rules in there that
[6:25] will tie to the
feral CAT contract,
[6:29] as well as removing
the term community.
[6:31] There are now feral
cats, not community cats.
[6:34] Legal ambiguity there because
community cats assumes that
[6:38] the community owns these cats.
[6:39] We do not.
[6:40] They're feral.
[6:43] 1855 requirements for
owner of a dangerous dog.
[6:47] We've expanded that
one a little bit too.
[6:49] Again, that goes back to
that insurance policy update.
[6:53] 18 six I'm sorry, 76
animals left in vehicles.
[6:57] We've updated to that.
[6:58] We added to the end of it some
definitions of what enforcement
[7:01] officers are now that the city
has an animal control officer as
[7:05] well as oh, we lost our
screen there as well
[7:08] as a bit of definition
at the end of it,
[7:10] clarifying that if you leave an
animal in a hot car in a parking
[7:13] lot and an enforcement officer
has to break the window,
[7:16] in the case of getting the
animal out to rescue it,
[7:18] that it is the responsibility
of the owner to deal
[7:20] with the damage, not the city.
[7:22] Let me interrupt
real quick on that.
[7:24] Sure you see it
too often in town.
[7:29] Animals left and dogs left in
the vehicle with the windows
[7:33] down or Windows up, and the
car running with the owner
[7:38] in a store somewhere.
[7:39] Sure at what point.
[7:42] I mean, obviously, if there's
an animal in the vehicle
[7:46] and it's not running
and there's no AC going.
[7:48] That's obviously a
phone call to somebody.
[7:50] Yep but also, I think
I'm not a police officer.
[7:56] I'm not a lawyer.
[7:57] But also I think
that it says I might
[7:59] know somebody who was a police
officer at one time, but.
[8:02] 
[8:05] If you leave your vehicle
running and you're not in it,
[8:08] that's not really legal either.
[8:11] Correct I'm unclear or
unaware of any law in Texas
[8:16] that says that you're
unable to leave your vehicle
[8:19] running with you, not in it.
[8:21] I'm not aware of any law.
[8:23] I was a police
officer for 10 years.
[8:24] But out in California, not here.
[8:26] But as far as I in Texas,
it's not illegal to do that.
[8:29] I know a lot of people do that.
[8:30] They leave their cars on with
their air conditioners running.
[8:32] That's fine.
[8:33] Remote start, I
understand, but anyway,
[8:37] at what point does
that become something
[8:39] that needs to be a concern of
a citizen or anybody sees it.
[8:42] Even if the windows are up
in the car's running right.
[8:45] So you don't know if the
AC is actually on or not.
[8:47] Sure, we do have
defined actually
[8:49] in that subsection certain
temperature degrees.
[8:52] So 75 degrees or
higher within the car
[8:55] starts to become a concern.
[8:57] Now the animal
obviously isn't going
[8:58] to be distressed right away.
[8:59] However, over time at anything
above that temperature,
[9:03] it will be within a danger zone.
[9:05] And so that's why
we carry or at least
[9:06] I carry a thermal
thermometer in my vehicle.
[9:10] So if I get a call saying,
hey, there's a dog over here,
[9:12] I can shoot a temperature
inside that car
[9:14] immediately, know what
temperature it is,
[9:16] and then I can look at
the condition of the dog
[9:18] based on my training
and say, OK, I'm seeing
[9:20] signs of health concern or not.
[9:23] That will then tell me,
OK, how much time do I have
[9:26] to work with this situation.
[9:27] Is it a break the window,
get the animal out right away
[9:29] for its care.
[9:30] Or is it OK.
[9:31] Now we can go inside the
store and make an announcement
[9:33] and try and get an owner
out here and deal with this.
[9:35] So we use those kind of
informed sections of script
[9:40] to follow to say, OK, this is
what we're going to do based
[9:43] on the amount of time we have
and the temperature and the
[9:45] condition of the animal.
[9:48] Does that answer your question.
[9:49] Yes, sir.
[9:50] OK thank you.
[9:53] 1877 animals and
trucks and trailers.
[9:56] So that again talks to
a bit of that as well.
[9:59] If we added some stuff
in there, just again
[10:01] to clarify those languages.
[10:03] And when they can be
in trucks and trailers
[10:05] and how they can be in the
backs of trucks or trailers
[10:07] or can't be and how
they have to be secured,
[10:10] all those types of things.
[10:12] 1891 covers foul that
section for the chickens we
[10:18] allow in the city kind of was.
[10:21] It was under-defined as
how to keep the chickens.
[10:24] So we've added sections to
the back of that to make sure
[10:27] that the chickens are secured.
[10:28] They're not just running
out in the street,
[10:30] which you will commonly see
in the Doyle district area,
[10:33] that those things have to be
kept in the back yard, not
[10:35] the front yard.
[10:36] So it's not an
eyesore in the front.
[10:38] All those types
of things are now
[10:39] to find that those
cages are again
[10:41] of adequate size for the
animals so that they're
[10:42] not being tortured by it.
[10:44] Those types of things
are all now included
[10:45] and specified in there.
[10:46] To make that a little bit
clearer for chicken owners.
[10:51] Rabbits 1891.
[10:53] We added just a
little bit of language
[10:54] for both rabbits and
ferrets pertaining
[10:58] to the conditions or
things that can come
[11:00] out of the keeping of those.
[11:02] That would make it
some type of nuisance.
[11:05] So if I look it up,
I'm going to forget.
[11:08] But it was stuff like water,
dust, splashing smells, things
[11:12] that could come from
the keeping of those
[11:14] that if they're not
being maintained well,
[11:16] would cause a nuisance and
then allow us to then step in
[11:18] and say, OK, you need
to change what you're
[11:20] doing here with your animals.
[11:21] But it's pretty much the
same for both rabbits
[11:24] and ferrets and chicken.
[11:25] It was added actually
to all three.
[11:27] So that's our expansions.
[11:29] And then terminology changes.
[11:30] So again, I kind of
covered that earlier.
[11:32] Community cats will now
be feral cats due to
[11:34] the legal terminology of that.
[11:37] Not a real big deal.
[11:38] And then of course, feral
cat will change as well
[11:41] and start a community
cat caregiver.
[11:46] Feral cat management
ordinance update.
[11:48] So we did change
that section a bit.
[11:50] It lacked refinement
of measurable markers
[11:53] to hold registered
caregivers accountable for
[11:55] the needed program standards.
[11:57] The whole standard behind
having feral cat colonies
[12:01] is to stop the breeding of these
animals, which means we need
[12:05] to trap neuter these animals.
[12:07] We need to get them vaccinated,
we need to return them,
[12:09] but they also need
to be controlled
[12:10] so that they're
not in businesses,
[12:12] they're not in the parking lots.
[12:13] They're not being fed on
someone else's property.
[12:16] All those types of
things, those things
[12:17] have now been
added to standards.
[12:19] And then you can see
down here addition
[12:22] of several subsections clearly
defined in the guidelines
[12:25] of the colonies.
[12:26] Also adds enforcement
measures for us should
[12:29] the compliance
continually fail to meet
[12:31] the standards that we set.
[12:34] They also help us make sure that
the management of this program
[12:37] is successful because we
want it to be successful.
[12:39] We want to control the
population of the feral cats,
[12:41] but also we want to
take care of the cats.
[12:43] We don't want to
be mean to them.
[12:44] We don't want to have
to euthanize them.
[12:45] We want to be able to
take care of those.
[12:48] And especially
for our caregivers
[12:49] who spend a lot of their
time to help these animals,
[12:53] a lot of their money to get
them spayed and neutered.
[12:55] But we need to manage it
carefully for the program
[12:58] to be successful.
[12:59] So that's what these
new ordinances do,
[13:02] is put tighter guidelines
on that to make sure
[13:04] that we can make
sure it's successful
[13:05] and that they're following
those guidelines.
[13:09] The feral cat colony contract.
[13:10] So currently we had what
we called the Community cat
[13:15] registry, which is where anyone
could just sign up and say,
[13:18] I'm going to feed
the cats because it
[13:20] is against our ordinance
to feed feral cats.
[13:22] However, if somebody
signed one of these,
[13:23] they could just go to wherever
these cats were living
[13:25] and start feeding them.
[13:27] That held them to no
standards like the ones
[13:29] I just talked about.
[13:30] They could do it
wherever the cats were,
[13:31] or whether it was on
someone else's property.
[13:33] Someone's parking lot along the
river, wherever it might be.
[13:37] This turns it into a
contract with the city.
[13:40] And it specifies all
the rules, regulations,
[13:43] and measurable timelines
needed to manage these colonies
[13:46] correctly, as well as the
oversight measurements
[13:49] that I will have, to have
enforcement measurements
[13:52] so that if they are not
following these guidelines,
[13:54] if they're not meeting
these deadlines,
[13:56] if they're doing things
they shouldn't in places
[13:57] they shouldn't, we
now have enforcement
[14:00] standard to correct that.
[14:01] 
[14:05] These are community partners,
of course, Kerrville
[14:08] pets alive and the big fix.
[14:10] They're instrumental in all of
our pet stuff within the city.
[14:14] They're great
community partners.
[14:15] I love working with them.
[14:17] I was able to go over all these
things with them ahead of time
[14:20] and get their
feedback, and it was
[14:23] overwhelmingly pretty
positive to get
[14:25] their support, which was great.
[14:26] They want these programs
to work as well,
[14:28] and I think that they understood
pretty clearly that if we don't
[14:31] manage it correctly using these
new guidelines that it will
[14:34] fail, and then the
city and the state
[14:35] would have no you, no option
but to revert to old ways, which
[14:38] was just euthanized en masse.
[14:40] So they're pretty
happy with that.
[14:44] Some of them are here tonight.
[14:45] Thank you guys for being here.
[14:47] All right.
[14:48] So next steps city council.
[14:51] There we go.
[14:51] So we have our if everything
successful tonight we'll have
[14:55] our readings in September
their eighth and 22nd where
[14:59] you guys can vote on that.
[15:00] And then we'll pause
here for questions.
[15:03] 
[15:06] Like I said I'll accidentally
stumble into being entertaining.
[15:09] It's not on purpose,
I assure you.
[15:11] Could you tell me your name.
[15:12] Because I don't know
that I've met you.
[15:14] I don't think we have.
[15:15] My name is James Lee,
Officer James Lee.
[15:17] 
[15:20] And When it's time.
[15:21] I'll have some questions.
[15:23] Absolutely right
now is the time.
[15:24] Please OK.
[15:25] So this is wonderful.
[15:27] This makes me feel better.
[15:28] I mean, it helps
me sleep at night.
[15:29] I love animals.
[15:30] I have animals, I love the pets.
[15:33] Pets alive organization.
[15:34] I think they do wonderful
things in our community.
[15:36] But I do have a concern since
we have the County who does.
[15:41] I would say maybe
something totally different
[15:43] or not at all like this.
[15:44] And I'm concerned that we're
doing a part of things well,
[15:48] but the big picture
needs some attention.
[15:51] Sure I would love your advice as
to what would be my next step.
[15:55] I plan to take a tour of the
County animal shelter, which
[15:59] I actually have not had yet, and
just see how things work there.
[16:04] But I was going to actually
ask someone to chauffeur
[16:06] me around and just not walk in.
[16:08] But do you have any comments
about that your relationship
[16:12] with them, and has it been
a good working relationship
[16:17] or has it had some challenges.
[16:19] Absolutely no.
[16:20] Since day one.
[16:21] I recognize coming
into this position
[16:23] that the partnerships with
our community partners
[16:25] like Kerrville, pets alive,
big fix, as well as the County.
[16:28] We're going to be absolutely
important because none of us
[16:31] are equipped
manpowered none of us
[16:34] have enough to do
this on our own.
[16:36] We have to work as a
team or this won't work.
[16:40] I am a state certified
animal control officer.
[16:42] I can do all the things
that they can do.
[16:44] However, my duties here have
been focused more on the animal
[16:47] ordinance side, which is
actually worked out really
[16:50] quite well with them,
whereas they're focused
[16:52] on the regular side of things.
[16:53] And so we kind of team up and
we will commonly go to calls
[16:56] together to where I can hit
things from the ordinance side,
[16:59] and they can hit things from
the criminal side if needed.
[17:01] And we do that a lot.
[17:03] I actually backed up an animal
control officer for the County
[17:06] today.
[17:06] I was actually out
doing code work,
[17:07] follow up for the code
enforcement department,
[17:09] and I saw an animal
officer out on a call,
[17:12] and she was all alone, and she
was out with two individuals.
[17:14] One of them was holding a knife.
[17:16] It was just a tree saw
branch, but he wasn't
[17:19] holding it to be threatening.
[17:20] He just didn't realize he was
still holding it, but I stopped,
[17:22] I got out, I backed her up, I
asked him to drop it and he did.
[17:26] And then we were able
to continue the call
[17:27] and everything went just fine.
[17:29] But she was very
grateful for that.
[17:31] So it's one of those situations
where we're going to partner as
[17:34] much as possible
to create the best
[17:37] animal situation in the County
that we can for city or County.
[17:41] I would say our relationships
have been very, very strong.
[17:44] The Constable who
runs the program
[17:45] over there, Reagan
Gibbons, lives
[17:47] right down the street from me.
[17:48] We're actually friends,
so that helps a lot, too.
[17:50] My partnership with the police
department has been very good.
[17:55] Chief Gerald actually
was the chief
[17:56] in the city I used to
live in at the same time
[17:59] when I was a police officer
there, but for a different city.
[18:02] We didn't even realize it until
we moved however many states
[18:05] away and lived here and met.
[18:07] So we have a great
relationship now too.
[18:09] So far all the partnerships have
been extremely, extremely good.
[18:13] Really good to hear.
[18:14] Yeah thank you very much.
[18:15] This is great.
[18:18] Yes, sir Mr. yes.
[18:24] 
[18:27] So to echo what Dylan
said, I think Kerrville,
[18:32] pets alive and the big fix do.
[18:35] Excellent work in our community.
[18:37] But I think you have bad actors
in the community who are not
[18:42] necessarily giving
them a bad name,
[18:44] but are negating the
work that they're doing.
[18:47] So I just have some questions
on the feeding and the areas
[18:56] 25 yards away from any parking
lot or commercial building.
[19:00] Is that whichever is furthest.
[19:03] Yes the goal is to keep the
animals away from the parking
[19:07] lot for their own safety.
[19:08] So don't get run over
by cars, but also
[19:10] to keep them away from the
businesses and the people.
[19:13] Obviously, if they're
running food establishments,
[19:15] let's say we don't want
them there because there's
[19:17] a health concern.
[19:19] And it could be
disruptive to the business
[19:21] if they're begging or
doing things that animals
[19:24] do, those types of deals.
[19:26] So all these rules
again that you're
[19:28] seeing they're in
the contract, these
[19:29] are rules to address things that
are currently happening, to stop
[19:32] them from happening and
give US enforcement options
[19:35] against groups, as you said,
that are bad actors that aren't
[19:38] following these guidelines.
[19:39] But hopefully moving
forward as well.
[19:42] Any new colonies and
things will they'll
[19:45] know these rules up front.
[19:46] The public education
will be there
[19:47] through me because everything
will have to roll through me.
[19:49] So I will approve of these
colonies based on those rules.
[19:53] Is it this far from a business.
[19:54] Is it on private land that
you own or have permission to.
[19:57] Is it.
[19:57] We'll go through all
that before the city
[20:00] ever agrees to sign
a contract with them,
[20:02] allowing them to do this.
[20:03] Is there a fine or not
registering as a colony.
[20:12] There isn't currently, no.
[20:14] There's no existing fine other
than they would be violating
[20:17] the city ordinance
of feeding feral cats
[20:20] if it's within city limits.
[20:21] In which case, yes, we could.
[20:22] Then we have a process that
we go through in the code
[20:25] department, which is where
animal control falls right now,
[20:27] where there's a
three Warning system.
[20:29] They're warned once we
check back in a week,
[20:30] if they're still
doing it, they're
[20:31] warned again on the third
one is a final Warning.
[20:33] And then it's a citation.
[20:35] That citation can be anywhere
from $200 up to way to $2,000,
[20:38] depending on the judge and
the grievance of how many
[20:42] times and what they're doing.
[20:43] OK, so that would be the
process we would currently
[20:46] follow to punish somebody
who's just refusing
[20:49] to go along with the rules.
[20:52] I would like to
make a suggestion
[20:54] on this contract that having
had to deal with this myself.
[21:00] Yes, anyone can sign this last
page and say yes, I apologize.
[21:08] That's all right.
[21:09] 
[21:13] Time to pick up my
child from school.
[21:17] So being that anyone can
say, yes, this property
[21:24] has allowed me to
feed these cats.
[21:26] I think the property owner
should have somewhere on here
[21:31] saying that they're allowing
this person to do so.
[21:39] And that's why this will
filter through me now
[21:42] as the sole manager
of the program,
[21:45] when they come to
ask for one of these.
[21:47] I am the one who will
vet all that with them.
[21:49] So then you're going to
call the property owner.
[21:51] Exactly OK.
[21:52] They will have to provide that
permission via phone call,
[21:55] or I'll have to go out and look
at it, whatever it might be.
[21:57] That will all go through me
to vet all that before they're
[22:00] allowed to sign this.
[22:01] And then I think 15
cats is too much.
[22:08] Yeah having seen it in person.
[22:10] Sure it's a lot.
[22:12] And I know there's
ones in the past.
[22:15] Some of the ones that are
grandfathered currently
[22:17] have many, many more than that.
[22:19] And so that was the
thing is we didn't
[22:22] really know where
to draw the line,
[22:23] what we went back and forth.
[22:26] Do we make it a dozen, do we
make it 15, do we make it this,
[22:28] do we make it that.
[22:29] So we came up with that
number arbitrarily.
[22:31] We thought, what could one
person reasonably manage.
[22:35] Like how many cats
in an area 15 kind of
[22:38] seemed like a reasonable
number, like, OK,
[22:40] that's a reasonable amount of
cats to manage as far as one
[22:43] person and maybe a backup
because they are allowed to sign
[22:47] a backup person on here
in case they fall ill
[22:49] or in the hospital, they
can have a second signatory
[22:51] here as a backup that we put
on the sheet, the registration
[22:54] sheet, so that if
something happens to them,
[22:56] the duties immediately
fall to that next person.
[22:59] So that's where we
were at with the 15.
[23:01] But it is arbitrary.
[23:02] It can be changed.
[23:03] It's not hard.
[23:04] It's just what we came up with
that we thought was reasonable.
[23:07] 
[23:11] Thank you.
[23:11] You're welcome.
[23:12] And thank you all Kerrville
pets alive and the big
[23:15] fix for all y'all to.
[23:16] 
[23:19] Go ahead.
[23:21] Officer Lee on council
member Smith's question.
[23:27] I know of a colony, Brenda of
the colony I'm talking about off
[23:31] of rolling green and Birkdale.
[23:34] It's not on somebody's property.
[23:35] It's actually in a easement
where camp meeting Creek is.
[23:39] So it's basically state.
[23:41] Waterway state.
[23:43] How would you go.
[23:44] I mean, it's established the
cats are all clipped and snipped
[23:47] and spayed and taken care of.
[23:49] But how would you go.
[23:50] Would you have to call the
state to say, hey, there's a cat
[23:54] colony on state
property, or would
[23:56] you just go the closest person
that's taking care of them.
[23:59] Yeah if it's uncontrolled land
like that belongs to the state.
[24:02] Yeah, we're probably not
going to follow up on it.
[24:05] Now if it's city property,
we can obviously do that.
[24:07] We're the city.
[24:08] We can find out
and say OK, do we
[24:09] want to allow this here or not.
[24:11] When it's state property.
[24:12] We're probably not
going to chase it
[24:14] as long as it's not a problem.
[24:15] As far as it's not
near a business,
[24:18] it's not disturbing a
neighborhood nearby.
[24:19] It's not if it's just
some unrestricted area
[24:21] and the cats are isolated to
that, that's a part of the goal.
[24:24] We don't want them in an area
where they're going to disturb
[24:26] the population in some way.
[24:28] So if they're happy in
that kind of open space
[24:30] and it's not hurting anything in
the area in any way ecologically
[24:33] or anything like
that, then yeah,
[24:35] we're not going to chase it
now if it becomes a problem.
[24:37] For some reason, if a red flag
is raised by a certain party,
[24:40] then we can take those steps
and dig into it, but otherwise
[24:44] we probably wouldn't.
[24:44] If it's just open land
like that, they're happy
[24:48] and everybody's happy with them.
[24:49] So it's pretty much.
[24:50] Yeah, yeah.
[24:52] Anything else.
[24:54] Anybody who came tonight
would like to speak.
[24:57] Come on up, please.
[25:00] State your name and city
for the record, please.
[25:03] Good evening.
[25:04] My name is Beth Patterson.
[25:05] I'm the assistant coordinator
for Kerrville pets alive.
[25:09] I need your business
cards in my pocket.
[25:11] I need a lot of them.
[25:13] This orange shirt is my
ticket to wherever I go.
[25:18] And my.
[25:18] My partners in crime.
[25:20] The big fix.
[25:21] I hand out their business cards.
[25:23] We work very hard together, and
I constantly have people go,
[25:28] you have to register a colony.
[25:30] And this is so new.
[25:32] And so I need a
reference, I need them.
[25:35] These are not people that
necessarily get online.
[25:39] So where are you.
[25:41] They are Facebook
kind of people.
[25:44] Do you have information
going out that I can tag.
[25:48] Yes so AI can give you
plenty of my business cards
[25:50] to put out there.
[25:51] We just finally got them.
[25:52] So we can do that I'll give
you online are old too.
[25:54] So sure.
[25:56] Also yeah.
[25:56] So public education is a very
big part of this new program.
[26:00] I'm working with Martin.
[26:01] We're trying to get
a lot of things done,
[26:02] we'll be at bark in the park.
[26:03] We'll be at the New Kerrville
pets alive grand opening
[26:06] to answer questions and
just let people know
[26:08] in general that, hey, the
city has this program now,
[26:11] we're out there.
[26:12] We're enforcing the ordinances.
[26:13] I took two roosters from
a guy the other day,
[26:15] had roosters in the city.
[26:17] He said, I've had
them for years.
[26:18] No one told me they
weren't allowed here.
[26:19] I says, well, they
weren't allowed here.
[26:20] He says.
[26:21] They just never go
to animal control it.
[26:23] Yeah so I saw them.
[26:24] Yes so.
[26:25] So we are here now and we're
enforcing these things.
[26:27] So a lot of people just need
to learn that we're here
[26:29] and that we're doing
these things now.
[26:31] And so that will be a big
public education push.
[26:33] And we're working with all the
partner agencies to do that.
[26:36] OK myself and big
fix and capa partners
[26:40] are in capa in
kick-ass every day.
[26:44] And so we have
partnerships with I've
[26:46] been doing this for five years.
[26:48] We have partnership personal
relationships with every ACO
[26:51] except for the new guys.
[26:52] And so I personally will
pick up the phone and say,
[26:55] Daisy, there's a
dog on so-and-so,
[26:58] and it hasn't gotten on
the radio or whatever.
[27:00] I feel good about that.
[27:01] But in the city, I'm a
County resident, so I'm
[27:04] anxious to see this progress.
[27:05] I live off of
upper turtle Creek,
[27:07] and I want to make
sure this happens.
[27:09] I'm now connected on
the emergency system.
[27:12] I have a repeater on
my property and so I'm
[27:15] connected in that environment.
[27:17] I want to make sure
that everybody knows.
[27:19] And if you want to
come at some point
[27:21] or get Reagan to
come and explain
[27:23] this from their perspective,
that you're doing this together.
[27:26] I have a colony that
I am working with that
[27:28] has been established
and has been there
[27:30] for over 20 or 30
years, and he definitely
[27:33] has more than 15 cats.
[27:34] So I'd like to see that
15 expand to the County
[27:38] if it's ever possible.
[27:40] I'll be real curious
to see how far we go.
[27:42] Yeah, so I am working with
them, and a lot of the things
[27:45] that we're establishing
here within the city
[27:48] are having the positive effect
of bleeding over to the County,
[27:51] even as far as how I
have equipped myself
[27:53] for this position,
they've kind of
[27:55] seen the benefits of
defensive equipment and things
[27:57] like that and
protection like a vest.
[27:59] I wear a vest when
I'm out in the field
[28:01] and they've seen that
benefit for their officers,
[28:03] so they're starting to do that
as far as rules and the county's
[28:07] ordinances and rules.
[28:08] Yeah, I think we'll
see some of that
[28:09] happen as well, where when
we establish certain rules,
[28:12] they may follow.
[28:13] They may not.
[28:14] That's up to the County
commissioners, of course.
[28:16] And then Reagan, who's
running that program.
[28:18] But the positive
relationship we've
[28:19] had so far is kind of leaning
towards let's do this together.
[28:22] Let's work together.
[28:23] Let's all get on the same
page, operate the same way.
[28:26] That way we can
work hand in hand
[28:27] and there's no hang UPS. I
worked on college campuses
[28:30] for 13 years, and so I know day
to day to day for everything
[28:35] that you need,
like grant writing
[28:36] and all that kind of stuff.
[28:37] So I'll be excited to
see that information.
[28:39] Thank you for being here.
[28:40] We greatly appreciate it.
[28:41] You're very welcome.
[28:42] 
[28:45] I have one more.
[28:46] Sure yes.
[28:47] I'd like to piggyback
on council member
[28:50] Smith's suggestion about
getting written permission
[28:53] to be on the property.
[28:55] I think it's fine to check, but
people's memory and people can
[29:03] I think having it in writing,
it's absolutely simple enough
[29:07] to add that to the contract and
just have a second signatory
[29:10] for the property owner.
[29:11] If it's somebody different,
we can absolutely do that.
[29:13] No problem.
[29:16] Anybody else.
[29:17] Anybody else from
either of the groups.
[29:20] All right.
[29:21] It's odd that someone is not
taking a chance to speak to us.
[29:27] I can get up there and
say what a wonderful job
[29:29] he's doing, but come on up.
[29:34] Please step to the
mic and say your name.
[29:36] 
[29:39] Thank you for your presentation.
[29:41] You're very welcome.
[29:41] I have one small typo.
[29:42] I'll show you after.
[29:43] Oh, sure.
[29:44] Thank you.
[29:45] All right.
[29:46] Anything else on this item.
[29:48] Let's move on then to
the next item, which
[29:52] I don't have in front of me.
[29:54] Item 2B Mr. Mayor and council.
[29:59] I'm excited to follow that.
[30:02] I haven't gotten
a chance to spend
[30:04] too much time with Officer Lee
yet, so that was a pleasant.
[30:09] That was nice to see.
[30:10] Well done.
[30:12] OK, so we're going to talk
a little bit about flood
[30:15] in a couple of different phases.
[30:17] So I'll do some overview stuff.
[30:19] And then Kelly
Hagemeyer from Kerr
[30:21] together no longer the city of
Kerrville AI is here tonight.
[30:27] And she's going to talk a
little bit about Kerr Together's
[30:29] process and what they're doing.
[30:31] And then the following item is
kind of a continuation of that.
[30:34] And David and Julie will
talk about the debris pickup.
[30:39] So without further ado.
[30:44] So immediate response is over.
[30:46] So it's recovery at this point.
[30:48] This seems like old hat for
us, and I'm sorry about that.
[30:52] But we kind of know
where this is headed.
[30:54] 
[30:56] Our city services are
operating as they normally do.
[31:00] We have some hiccups.
[31:01] We do have some temporary issues
that we're working through.
[31:04] But I think with the exception
of James Avery campus
[31:10] out on Harper, everybody's
water and sewer
[31:13] connections are as they are.
[31:15] Staff is in the process of
temporarily fixing that water
[31:19] line extension to James
Avery, so they'll be back up
[31:22] and running.
[31:23] They won't notice
the difference.
[31:24] It's still a temporary
fix on our end.
[31:28] And so that's the
disruption I think
[31:33] we see in the utility side.
[31:37] A lot of work left
in the creeks,
[31:39] a lot of work left
on the Riverside,
[31:42] and a lot of future
projects coming our way.
[31:47] From an infrastructure
standpoint,
[31:50] state continues to be here.
[31:52] I think they're operating
a lot of their activity
[31:53] on last year's flooding.
[31:57] They have been a guidance
for us during this time.
[32:02] But the presence is
different this year
[32:05] than it was last year, right.
[32:07] You can feel that
you can see it.
[32:11] Federal assistance.
[32:14] We're still waiting.
[32:17] I think the process is.
[32:21] Compiling all of the
damage assessments
[32:23] for all the counties that
were affected in Texas,
[32:25] and putting those all
together as one package
[32:27] to go to President's desk.
[32:30] I think that is
what's happening.
[32:32] And so we're continuing to push.
[32:36] Mayor was at a
meeting last Friday,
[32:37] I believe, with reps from
Congressman Roy's office
[32:43] or Congressman Roy was there,
I believe to keep pushing.
[32:48] And so I think that's what
we can do at this point
[32:50] is continue to
advocate for ourselves,
[32:52] talk to our neighbors, continue
to advocate for themselves
[32:54] as well.
[32:56] The state is pushing.
[32:58] I see we have that conversation.
[33:01] Not daily, but almost daily.
[33:03] Where we're at.
[33:06] You get tired of asking,
but you keep asking.
[33:09] Yes do things like what happened
in Hawaii and the flooding
[33:13] in Indiana and other natural
disasters that are happening
[33:18] now after July 16 affect that.
[33:23] It's hard to speculate on
it, but I think it does.
[33:26] I think there's severity levels.
[33:28] I think when you
have I think when
[33:30] you have loss of
human life, I think
[33:32] the responses are different.
[33:35] I think they are faster.
[33:37] And then it scales because
when they're looking at it,
[33:41] if they're seeing this
week there's something
[33:44] here the next week,
something here
[33:45] the next week, something here.
[33:47] And, you get all of those
requests simultaneously.
[33:50] I'm not sure I'm not sure
the process, the methodology
[33:53] approved or disapproved.
[33:56] But you have 50 states
and all the territories,
[34:01] all asking for federal dollars.
[34:03] Pocketbooks to be opened up.
[34:05] So it is a complicated process.
[34:08] Now, what I do understand
is that while we see this
[34:12] as a delay in a
federal response,
[34:15] because last year we had
such an immediate turnaround,
[34:19] it does take a while to
get those declarations.
[34:23] So I think two of the
biggest facets of it
[34:30] are we talk about it all the
time as individual assistance
[34:33] and public assistance.
[34:34] So if FEMA opens up those
two tranches of funding,
[34:37] that opens up different
avenues for both families,
[34:41] and community members living
in town, as well as for us
[34:44] and what's available for us.
[34:46] 
[34:49] We do have a significant
philanthropic community.
[34:53] The dollars that came
through for this flood,
[34:55] I think a lot of their donation
fatigue is a real thing.
[35:03] $150 million plus was
donated in last year's flood.
[35:10] I believe part of that
money is that's going
[35:14] to this year's flood.
[35:16] One of the weird kind of not
weird IRS regulation stipulation
[35:20] is that Community Foundation
has to get approval
[35:24] from those donors to utilize
that money from last year
[35:27] to this year, which
is another step.
[35:30] And I think they had
more than 100,000
[35:33] or more than 100,000 donors.
[35:35] So a lot of people
to reach out to.
[35:39] But they've gotten some
money out thus far,
[35:41] and some of those programs
are operating and getting
[35:43] assistance out to people.
[35:46] We're going to keep
working with Kerr
[35:48] together other as
kind of our official
[35:50] long term recovery group.
[35:52] And so we meet with
them on a weekly basis,
[35:55] talk to them all the time
about what's available,
[35:59] how can we help.
[36:00] And they reciprocate
and ask me, when are
[36:02] we going to handle the debris.
[36:04] And so both of our answers
have been we're working on it.
[36:09] And so what you'll
see tonight is
[36:10] that we are implementing
not just working on it
[36:15] again TMM and DPs are operating.
[36:18] There will be another barge.
[36:20] There will be another crane
there putting that stuff
[36:23] back out there as we speak.
[36:26] Those things are in place.
[36:29] And so those
operations continue.
[36:31] 
[36:37] Our water and wastewater
again, our systems
[36:39] are operational, although
not as we want them to be.
[36:43] The crews that work
worked for David Barrera.
[36:49] Our magicians.
[36:50] And they will make
these things work.
[36:52] And they will duct tape a
thing, the officially duct tape
[36:56] with a clamp and all approved.
[37:00] But they can I mean to
say they can work magic.
[37:04] Repairs on town
Creek are going well
[37:09] for the water and wastewater.
[37:13] The repairs on the road is
a significantly different
[37:15] conversation, although they
have done a lot of work
[37:18] and the streets crews are here
today sitting right there,
[37:21] and they are rock
stars, all of them.
[37:25] There are still some issues
with access and a few crossings.
[37:29] We know about those.
[37:31] Arcadia loop
bridge, big one town
[37:34] Creek has some crossing issues.
[37:36] Obviously there's major
damage throughout that.
[37:40] We have a large
transmission line,
[37:43] a few that cross at
the water treatment
[37:45] plant that are transmit water
from the treatment plant
[37:49] into town.
[37:50] Those were, oh, I don't five
to 10 feet below the bed
[37:57] of the river when
they were built.
[38:01] And that water has been
scoured a little bit
[38:03] and they are no
longer that deep.
[38:06] And so it came to light when
the barge went over the river,
[38:14] as they were pulling some
of their material back out,
[38:16] scoured one of the lines,
which happens then.
[38:20] That was fine.
[38:20] We were able to fix it, but it
highlighted this larger project
[38:25] that will be a future public,
probably a future FEMA project
[38:30] is what we are
planning for, but we
[38:32] don't want to have
that line so close
[38:35] to the surface of the water,
not to the surface of the water,
[38:38] but to the bed.
[38:41] And so I think those are a
couple of our biggest projects
[38:45] that we're looking
at, obviously,
[38:47] are the bridge,
that transmission
[38:49] line, town Creek, river trail.
[38:53] Big components.
[38:54] Talk about those.
[38:55] 
[38:59] Knapp and Cypress are
returning to public use.
[39:02] The river trail
does remain closed,
[39:04] although we've had a huge
volunteer outpouring from folks
[39:07] with heavy equipment who came
out and did a lot of work
[39:11] over the last few weeks.
[39:13] And I know Jay will get
mad when I say this,
[39:15] but the river trail is closed.
[39:16] But we see people
out there walking,
[39:17] so if you're amongst
those who are trespassing,
[39:20] let's say there has
been a lot of work
[39:24] and I think you'll be able to
see the work that has been done.
[39:27] There's a significant amount
of movement in that river rock.
[39:32] Every time you drive
over the bridge
[39:35] and you look down
at Louise Hays park,
[39:36] you'll see a lot of
that right there.
[39:39] And that's all up
and down the river.
[39:43] So in that we have
areas that we still
[39:46] need to fix, a lot of
cavitations, a lot of areas
[39:49] where the drop offs are
as high as this desk,
[39:51] sometimes as high
as the dais there.
[39:54] And so we can't open
that up until we
[39:56] mitigate that because it's just
too much it's too dangerous.
[40:01] We don't want somebody to go
out there and trip and fall.
[40:03] 
[40:07] Again, the volunteers
this time around,
[40:09] I think that's going to be a
big delta for us this year,
[40:11] is that we don't have
the disaster declaration.
[40:14] We still have to get
all this stuff done.
[40:18] Our teams are working hard at
getting the things that we can
[40:21] do done, but the
volunteers are seeing a gap
[40:26] and they're filling that gap.
[40:28] So with heavy equipment,
with just volunteers
[40:30] coming to pick up trash, I know
Lisa and Saladin and a bunch
[40:36] of her friends have been
out cleaning up town
[40:39] Creek just every
couple of days they're
[40:41] out there picking stuff out.
[40:43] And so lots of groups are
out there helping us out.
[40:46] 
[40:51] One of the things that
we are looking at now is.
[40:54] 
[40:56] How do we rebuild.
[40:58] Where do we rebuild.
[40:59] What is a place like town.
[41:00] Creek is a perfect example.
[41:02] I spoke to you all at
that budget hearing
[41:04] and said $57 million to
fix the thing, that area,
[41:09] and I'm sorry I said it.
[41:11] I didn't want to say it.
[41:12] It's a horribly large number
and it's not a realistic number.
[41:16] That's a number that
we provide to FEMA
[41:18] to say to bring it back to
those preexisting conditions.
[41:22] This is what that looks like.
[41:23] And that's just
never what we'll do.
[41:25] But we have to
supply that to FEMA.
[41:29] But we're looking at this from
a functionality standpoint.
[41:32] Who needs access.
[41:34] Where do they need access.
[41:36] And how can we most
efficiently make that happen.
[41:39] And the town Creek that
I think we all knew
[41:42] is always going to be different.
[41:46] More to follow on that.
[41:48] In that endeavor we will
work towards grants,
[41:52] philanthropic
funding where we can
[41:53] and then keep kind of pushing
that volunteer effort because I
[41:57] think we're going to have to
do a lot of this ourselves
[42:01] to get it done.
[42:02] So the next phase is David
will talk about debris
[42:08] removal here in a little bit.
[42:09] We're going to keep
working on FEMA
[42:11] and tdem documentation for
anything that we're going to do.
[42:14] We're going to do all
of our work compliant
[42:16] with those regulations.
[42:18] So that way, if
and when the time
[42:21] comes for us to get reimbursed,
we have done it in accordance
[42:23] with their rules so we can
get the maximum reimbursement
[42:26] for it.
[42:28] Keep advocating for that.
[42:29] 
[42:33] Priorities for what
we can fix is next.
[42:36] Because I think we have
somewhere between 65 million
[42:39] and $100 million
worth of damage,
[42:42] and there's not going
to be enough funding
[42:43] to cover all that.
[42:44] So what are the priorities.
[42:46] So we will get that list to
you and triage that and then
[42:51] start working on those permanent
fixes for all of our projects.
[42:55] So that's the big
picture for me.
[42:58] Kelly has a lot more
detail about what curr
[43:01] together has been
doing, so she's
[43:03] going to step up and take over.
[43:05] I'll answer any questions you
have now, or if y'all want
[43:07] to wait until she's finished.
[43:09] Questions for Mr. Horn's.
[43:13] OK thank you MS Hagemeyer.
[43:19] Good afternoon.
[43:20] Council thank you
for having me here.
[43:22] My name is Kelly Hagemeyer.
[43:24] I am the program manager
for curr together.
[43:27] And this is our
one month recovery
[43:31] report for the 26th July 2026.
[43:36] Severe weather event.
[43:41] So, assessing the istat data,
we have 966 residents that were
[43:48] verified as being affected.
[43:50] 223 of those were major
or destroyed, the majority
[43:56] of that damage being in
the Kerrville city limits
[44:01] with 190 homes, severe
sustaining, major
[44:06] or destroyed, major
damage or destroyed.
[44:09] And so I also put up
the 2025 comparisons.
[44:15] So while there
were less affected,
[44:18] obviously the proportion of
major and damage was longer.
[44:22] However, as I mentioned, this
damage was more centralized
[44:25] than the Kerrville city limits.
[44:27] We also put up there
the number of businesses
[44:31] that were affected.
[44:32] That was something from 2025.
[44:34] We were well aware that
we needed to keep in mind,
[44:38] even though that there
weren't a lot of resources
[44:40] and it wasn't
something that Tedham
[44:42] necessarily kept track of.
[44:44] But we felt that was really
important for our community.
[44:48] And then this year, we had a
much larger number of businesses
[44:52] that were affected and
especially majorly destroyed
[44:57] and damaged, with 20 of
those businesses being
[45:02] destroyed within the
Kerrville city limits.
[45:06] So then from the Tedham
verified, then we
[45:11] have the other list of people
who have been coming in
[45:14] since then, or maybe didn't
make it to the I-stat or got
[45:18] lost somewhere in the system.
[45:21] Just as council member Harris
and I were talking about,
[45:25] lots of people are
still coming in just
[45:27] now submitting their damages.
[45:31] And so this is an assessment
that occurred together
[45:34] has as we collect
various lists that
[45:37] are coming from
other organizations
[45:40] throughout the County.
[45:42] We're trying to
cross-reference, see
[45:44] if we've doubled up anywhere.
[45:46] So that 1,200 number
might go down.
[45:49] But given that Tatum had
verified almost 1,000 people
[45:55] were thinking that
a near 1,200 is
[45:59] much more accurate of how many
people were actually affected.
[46:02] 
[46:09] So as we go through with the
residents of what their needs
[46:12] are right now, there
are still residents
[46:14] that need muck and gut.
[46:15] And so as we're hearing
about those people,
[46:18] we are putting them
on a list and trying
[46:20] to get them with a vote.
[46:22] As Mr. mentioned, we have
not quite as many resources,
[46:26] which also means volunteers.
[46:28] So a lot of those video ads,
those volunteer organizations
[46:32] active in disaster.
[46:34] They have already left.
[46:36] Many of them are still
monitoring what needs.
[46:41] There still are, but it's
a little less organized
[46:45] or consistent at this time.
[46:47] And we're kind of
having to reach out
[46:48] and we're having to meet
some sort of threshold
[46:51] in their mind to be able
to collect whether it's
[46:54] 50, hundreds, 200
volunteers for the weekend
[46:58] throughout the
whole state to come
[46:59] and finding a place
for them to stay
[47:01] and all of those
things for them to come
[47:03] in to continue to
do those response
[47:05] efforts, debris removal.
[47:08] My staff is very grateful
that the city and the County
[47:12] have a mitigation
plan right now,
[47:14] that it was one of
the main questions
[47:17] that we were receiving
is when how are
[47:20] we getting rid of this
stuff off of our property.
[47:22] So we're grateful to
David and his crew
[47:25] for working very quickly
to come up with a solution.
[47:30] Financial assistance.
[47:31] Light on the Hill is
currently distributing
[47:33] emergency financial assistance.
[47:36] So a lot of people losing their
house or not being able to be
[47:40] in their house, trying
to live in a house
[47:42] that they probably shouldn't.
[47:44] Maybe they lost work.
[47:45] They lost their car.
[47:47] I saw a report today
that 95 households
[47:50] have said that their car
was affected in some way.
[47:56] Probably lost completely.
[47:58] And some of those that
was just households.
[48:00] So some of those
they lost both cars.
[48:04] And then temporary
housing is something else.
[48:07] These people who probably
shouldn't be living
[48:09] in their home trying
to better understand
[48:11] what those solutions are
with such little funding
[48:14] available at this time.
[48:18] Kelly, can I ask a question
on that last slide.
[48:20] Oh, yes.
[48:20] Of course.
[48:23] Financial assistance
light on the Hill.
[48:25] So if they come to y'all
and say, hey, we need this.
[48:30] Are they going to
light on the Hill.
[48:31] Is that going through, y'all.
[48:33] And light on the Hill or is
that a totally different.
[48:36] So right now.
[48:38] So yes, if someone comes and
they have not light on the Hill
[48:41] is getting their lists
through rebuild Kerr.
[48:45] So if someone comes
to us and says,
[48:47] I haven't received financial
assistance and I was affected,
[48:51] we can get them into the system.
[48:53] We do have a disaster.
[48:55] Case manager threw
light on the Hill
[48:57] that is at 98
Coronato 9 to four.
[49:02] We have someone there
and they can double check
[49:04] if they are in the system.
[49:05] We just haven't gotten they
haven't just gotten to them yet.
[49:08] They are.
[49:09] Beth Palmer, there she is.
[49:12] Her goal is to write checks
to 200 households every week.
[49:17] So that is 200 people, 200
households that they're needing
[49:20] to talk to every week to
comb through to verify,
[49:26] because they have their own
checks and balances too.
[49:29] But they have done an amazing
job to get through that.
[49:33] And so her goal was to
get all of that money
[49:35] out within six weeks.
[49:37] Yes, ma'am.
[49:38] Some of the first people
that came in that first week,
[49:41] I know we were up and
running as far as input
[49:43] and taking their case.
[49:46] So are they being
called now that there
[49:48] is this light on the Hill.
[49:49] Financial assistance.
[49:51] Yes we're going back
through our list and data
[49:56] sharing and giving
them and double
[49:58] checking with the
disaster case managers
[50:01] to make sure that as people come
in or if we think that maybe
[50:05] someone got lost
through the cracks
[50:06] to make sure that they
are in their system,
[50:09] could have been one
of the intakes I did.
[50:11] So you might want to
double check those.
[50:13] We will double check.
[50:16] Not my skill set.
[50:19] You did a wonderful job.
[50:20] Thank you for coming.
[50:21] You're so welcome.
[50:22] You're so welcome.
[50:25] So one of the acronym soups
that we got to learn very early
[50:31] on last year was voadores.
[50:33] So those volunteer organizations
active in disasters and occur
[50:37] together is a collaboration
of local, regional,
[50:39] and national partners.
[50:41] And these ads are part of that.
[50:42] These four are the ones that
we worked most closely with.
[50:46] They weren't the only
ones who were in town.
[50:48] They were just the
most consistent
[50:50] with checking in with us.
[50:51] And they also gave me closeout
packets, which always makes
[50:55] it easier to collect data.
[50:58] And so Samaritan's Purse,
all hands and hearts,
[51:00] Texans on mission
and Team Rubicon.
[51:02] And so we're very
grateful for them.
[51:04] We stay in constant
contact with them.
[51:07] Because they're wanting to
come back into the community
[51:12] whenever they find
funding or whenever
[51:15] we have a large enough
work order for them.
[51:19] 
[51:23] This weekend, actually,
the Latter day Saints
[51:25] are coming into town, and so
I'm coordinating with them with
[51:29] that church group right now.
[51:31] 
[51:35] Global empowerment mission
has been a wonderful partner
[51:38] to curd together.
[51:41] They are able to help us not
only just with individuals
[51:45] but also businesses.
[51:47] And they also manage
the warehouse,
[51:49] which was very important from
last year Mr. horns can tell you
[51:56] plenty of nightmare
stories about the warehouse
[51:58] from last year.
[52:00] And so this year it was
much more organized.
[52:03] We had everyone in place.
[52:05] And in the weeks
following the disaster,
[52:07] gem was able to distribute and
deliver supplies to residents
[52:12] and other voids and curd
together is very excited we are
[52:17] working towards our 501(c)3,
our non-profit status,
[52:21] and so we are just waiting on
our IRS determination letter.
[52:24] And so right now
gem is curd together
[52:29] financial fiscal sponsor as
we mature as a nonprofit.
[52:35] 
[52:40] As I said from last
year, we really
[52:42] learned how important it was.
[52:45] Kurt together and
Kurt EDC were well
[52:47] aware of the economic
damages from disasters
[52:50] and the high number of
businesses that don't survive.
[52:53] And so that became a
really high priority.
[52:55] And one of our great
partners during this time
[52:58] has been lift fund.
[53:00] So lift fund.
[53:01] From the 2025 fund, flood was
able to distribute nearly $20
[53:06] million in grants and loans.
[53:08] And then whenever the
26 flood occurred,
[53:12] they shifted some
additional loan money
[53:15] that they had that they had
just started distributing,
[53:18] and they shifted that to grants.
[53:19] And those were $10,000
grants at the time.
[53:22] And then we were
blessed by the Community
[53:25] Foundation, who granted another
5 million to be towards grants.
[53:31] And so those grants are
a maximum of 50,000 that.
[53:37] That application closed,
I believe either Thursday.
[53:40] It closed last week.
[53:41] And so there were
103 applicants.
[53:44] And so that money
should be distributed
[53:46] as soon as next week.
[53:48] 
[53:53] So the remaining critical
needs at this point.
[53:56] So we continue to
connect with the various
[53:58] with various funding
sources to secure votes,
[54:01] secure vote activity.
[54:04] Light on the Hill
is still funding
[54:08] emergency financial
assistance public assistance.
[54:13] So we are still working
with the city and County
[54:17] on what infrastructure
needs they have,
[54:19] as Mr. Horn has laid out.
[54:21] Temporary housing.
[54:22] We are collaborating
with emergency
[54:25] housing funds and other
temporary housing solutions.
[54:30] We're getting creative.
[54:32] We're looking into some RVs.
[54:33] I had a conversation
with Drew just
[54:37] clarifying where
RVs could and could
[54:39] not be within the city limits.
[54:42] And so we're also working
with the Parks Department
[54:47] to see what that
would look like.
[54:48] If we need someone to be
in an RV for a longer stay,
[54:52] and if that would be
possible at Ksp and what
[54:55] those funding
requirements would be.
[54:58] Some more creative
underlining concerns.
[55:01] Agriculture there is not many
resources for agriculture.
[55:05] We kind of knew this last
year from the disaster
[55:08] between Agrilife and the Texas
Department of agriculture.
[55:13] Those are your only two
sources, and it is not quick
[55:17] and it's a little cumbersome.
[55:20] So we're still working
through a lot of fences down
[55:23] and stuff like that.
[55:26] Mold remediation.
[55:28] We're working to collaborate
with some workshops
[55:31] with some of the voids.
[55:32] The free options I have are
not quick and the now options
[55:38] are expensive.
[55:39] So y'all know how that works.
[55:42] Private roads.
[55:43] We are still assessing
private roads
[55:45] and trying to understand
what that looks like.
[55:48] Between finding the
equipment, a license
[55:51] operator material and fuel.
[55:54] Putting all those four
together takes some time.
[55:57] 
[55:59] And then the key things
that occur together needs
[56:02] to try to officially
transition into recovery
[56:06] is connecting with
all the individuals
[56:09] and understanding their needs.
[56:11] Continuing our collaboration
with city, city and County
[56:15] staff on infrastructure.
[56:18] Continuing to
engage with our ads.
[56:21] And lastly, FEMA
individual assistance.
[56:24] So I think as city council
and the County commissioners
[56:29] and our Governmental
Affairs and everyone
[56:32] for collaborating with our state
and federal representatives
[56:38] and really pushing
for this declaration.
[56:41] 
[56:43] And with that, any questions.
[56:47] I'll just.
[56:48] Sorry you're fine.
[56:50] I just want to thank you,
Kelly, because I had.
[56:52] 
[56:55] I'm just going to claim I
can't see what's going on.
[56:57] 
[57:00] You were nice enough
to let me come in,
[57:01] because what happens
is on the street when
[57:03] you go visit these neighborhoods
again, they have more questions.
[57:07] Different questions
and misinformation.
[57:10] So I'm really anytime I think
y'all needed to go visit with
[57:15] Kelly or someone I try to make
it convenient for you because I
[57:18] know you're extremely busy, but
it really helped me that day
[57:21] to get even some of this
information you're giving us
[57:24] now, so that we can relay that
to the public and start to give
[57:29] them some hope and
some confidence that,
[57:30] yes, you're on the radar, that
we're working on this debris.
[57:34] We're working on all of
these things as best we can,
[57:37] as fast as we can.
[57:39] And the money coming in helped.
[57:41] I mean, getting those numbers
to was a boost in the confidence
[57:45] that we're going to
get through this.
[57:47] So thank you very much.
[57:49] Thank you crystal.
[57:52] No, thank you for all your
very thorough updates.
[57:56] No you're welcome.
[57:57] Work that you're doing.
[57:58] Thanks yeah I agree.
[58:02] Thanks very much.
[58:03] It's still amazing that Kirk
is doing such a great job,
[58:08] and it's a little
comforting in a way.
[58:11] We've got another disaster, but
we're up and running already,
[58:15] so appreciate all the hard
work and the coordination
[58:20] that you're getting
accomplished.
[58:21] Thank you.
[58:23] Yeah I hate to be this guy.
[58:25] No that's OK.
[58:26] Can you go back a couple
of slides to the left.
[58:30] Which one.
[58:31] Talking about the lift fund
and the amount of money.
[58:33] And keep going right there.
[58:39] So I understand the grants.
[58:41] Grants don't get paid back.
[58:43] Let's talk about this center
section here that says loans.
[58:46] $11,883,539 in loans.
[58:51] I have been asked numerous times
by people in the community,
[58:56] was that their money
from the get go.
[58:58] Did they have that.
[58:59] Is that what they're
loaning, or did they
[59:01] get that from other places and
they're making loans off of it.
[59:06] And are they charging interest.
[59:08] Are they basically
getting $12 million
[59:11] in New business
because of a disaster.
[59:15] I am not bashing the fund.
[59:17] I am so glad they're here.
[59:20] They stood up and
talked about the grants,
[59:22] but this came up last year
in the very beginning when
[59:27] the foundation was giving out
grants and people were saying,
[59:30] oh, it's loans, it's loans,
and they got to pay it back.
[59:33] That is not the case
with the foundation.
[59:35] But right here, it
says loans and Kelly,
[59:37] I'm not trying to bash anything.
[59:39] I'm just people
ask I need to ask
[59:41] a question for the
citizens of Kerrville
[59:43] about why it says loans.
[59:46] Yeah and how is the money.
[59:49] Are they loaning only to
Kerr County and comfort
[59:52] to make sure it stays here.
[59:53] And when that money comes
back in, it gets paid off.
[59:56] Are they loaning that money
back out to people of Kerr,
[59:59] Kerrville and comfort area.
[1:00:01] So I can probably answer some of
your questions, not all of them.
[1:00:05] And I can definitely get you
more information from the lift
[1:00:09] fund to answer those
questions, because those
[1:00:11] really are valid
questions because we
[1:00:13] have worked through that also.
[1:00:16] And so the majority
of their loans
[1:00:20] have been in Kerr
County and comfort
[1:00:23] just at this time because
we've been working with them.
[1:00:25] But they are a national company
who does help during disasters.
[1:00:30] Lift fund also can be
utilized not in disaster.
[1:00:36] So actually Curry
DC has is looking
[1:00:39] at also partnering with them to
help businesses to understand
[1:00:43] business plans and just
becoming more financially secure
[1:00:47] and thinking about different
ways to set up your business
[1:00:50] and just being ready and
better prepared financially.
[1:00:55] The majority of those
loans, I believe,
[1:00:58] were actually the interest.
[1:01:00] There were 0 interest
loans, so the money
[1:01:03] that was donated to the fund
was to buy down that interest so
[1:01:07] that whenever people
were paying back,
[1:01:09] it was just the principal,
not the interest.
[1:01:15] I did not do well
in finance class,
[1:01:18] but that is how I understand
it in the best layman's term.
[1:01:23] It's just one of those
questions that's being asked,
[1:01:26] and it's a sore subject that
the perception, I guess,
[1:01:32] is they have a disaster and
there's a company that comes in
[1:01:37] to help on one side,
but then they're
[1:01:39] loaning on the other
side to be paid back.
[1:01:41] So yes.
[1:01:43] And we had the
same conversations
[1:01:45] with some of the banks too.
[1:01:47] And so there were many that were
encouraged to talk to your bank
[1:01:53] first, see what type of loan
options and what percentage
[1:01:56] they can give you and even lift.
[1:01:59] One was very honest about that.
[1:02:01] Talk to your bank first.
[1:02:02] See what if they can
maybe work with you.
[1:02:05] But some companies did find that
the loan option just because
[1:02:10] of that 0% interest, because
that funding that was given
[1:02:13] was specifically to buy down
the interest of the loans just
[1:02:17] work better for them.
[1:02:18] But I'll work with Adrian
and I'll get some more
[1:02:21] definite answers for you.
[1:02:25] Any other comments or questions.
[1:02:27] Thank you ma'am.
[1:02:28] Thank you.
[1:02:29] 
[1:02:32] To see MS Behrens.
[1:02:34] All right.
[1:02:42] Good afternoon, Mayor.
[1:02:43] Council I'll keep it
kind of brief on this,
[1:02:47] but we'll do a quick rundown on
our curbside collection update.
[1:02:50] As we've been talking
about earlier from day one,
[1:02:55] we start looking at
flood debris management.
[1:02:57] So we start looking
at how we can
[1:02:58] develop systems for public
input through surveys,
[1:03:01] emails, phone calls.
[1:03:03] I want to recognize Stephanie
Daley and Angela North, who's
[1:03:06] on the other side of the
wall, who they've been
[1:03:07] the frontline folks
of taking hundreds
[1:03:09] of calls and guiding people in
the right direction for that.
[1:03:12] So that's critical in any
kind of management process.
[1:03:16] Also evaluate our
existing resources.
[1:03:18] What do we have in place.
[1:03:20] We do have a solid
waste program.
[1:03:22] We're able to utilize that.
[1:03:24] Volunteers were here already
on the ground coordinating that
[1:03:27] with Kelly and
her team out there
[1:03:29] offering guidance on placement
of items at the curb.
[1:03:33] Doesn't matter if we're
going to pick it up,
[1:03:34] a third party is
going to pick it up.
[1:03:35] There's guidelines on putting
stuff out at the curb,
[1:03:38] and those were the initial
questions that we were getting.
[1:03:40] So we got to have that
information available.
[1:03:42] Also evaluate the options
for expanded collections
[1:03:46] when that becomes available.
[1:03:47] And then last but not
least is secure funding.
[1:03:50] How do we manage the cost.
[1:03:52] So we've already looking
at those on the back end.
[1:03:55] And then so our initial
debris management initiatives,
[1:03:59] we issued over 750
vouchers since July 16.
[1:04:03] We typically issue about
150 to 200 vouchers a month.
[1:04:08] So we've issued 750.
[1:04:09] And those all go through
Stephanie and Angela.
[1:04:13] So they've been pretty busy
with just that aspect of it.
[1:04:16] We were able to
obtain 14 dumpsters
[1:04:18] that I was able to place
in high volume areas.
[1:04:22] Those were donated and provided
quick response on deliveries.
[1:04:26] That made it challenging because
everybody wanted a dumpster,
[1:04:29] but I had to make sure
I place a dumpster
[1:04:30] where I can have several
homes or properties utilize
[1:04:33] that dumpster.
[1:04:35] We coordinated
with curr together
[1:04:36] for assistance with volunteers.
[1:04:38] I can place dumpsters
at the curb.
[1:04:40] Who's going to load them up.
[1:04:41] And I didn't want the
people that just went
[1:04:43] through, what with the flood, to
have to load their own stuff up.
[1:04:46] So we've had many volunteers
as Kelly mentioned
[1:04:49] in her slide, Team Rubicon.
[1:04:52] All hands and hearts.
[1:04:54] We had Texans on a mission.
[1:04:56] We also had private companies
assisting with equipment.
[1:04:59] Have folks from
creative solutions
[1:05:01] that helped load up three
or four dumpsters already.
[1:05:04] I talked to them when
I was out surveying
[1:05:06] and I said, do you
mind helping me out.
[1:05:08] And they said, yes,
I'll help you out.
[1:05:09] So they were able to get some
equipment out there and load
[1:05:12] up those dumpsters for us.
[1:05:15] We were able to remove 420yd
which is a little over 30 tons,
[1:05:19] is what we did with
that initial program
[1:05:21] with the roll-off dumpsters.
[1:05:24] Also, our city
crew removed debris
[1:05:25] from 18 right of way sites.
[1:05:27] We did that kind of a
little pilot program
[1:05:30] ahead of what we just
started yesterday, right.
[1:05:33] So this is all it's been done
before our official Citywide
[1:05:36] curbside collection, all that.
[1:05:39] It's running parallel with
us obtaining the data.
[1:05:42] Well, I'm obtaining
data, the surveys,
[1:05:44] verifying all that stuff.
[1:05:45] We're out doing this
right initially.
[1:05:47] So we have been putting
some work out there.
[1:05:51] So implementing the
curbside collection program,
[1:05:54] we communicated with
Cheatham for guidance.
[1:05:56] Julie and I met with them
looking at third party
[1:05:59] operations and timelines.
[1:06:01] What does that look like to get
a third party to come in here.
[1:06:04] There's a lot of boxes
that need to be checked.
[1:06:06] It's a lengthy process in order
to follow FEMA guidelines.
[1:06:09] So we also looked at our
operational transition
[1:06:12] from emergency operations
in public works.
[1:06:15] Now that things are stabilized,
what are our resources
[1:06:17] look like.
[1:06:18] What can we do now
to pivot from that
[1:06:20] and assist with this
collection program
[1:06:23] with these gentlemen here in
streets and figured out, OK,
[1:06:25] are we going to be
able to handle this.
[1:06:27] And keep in mind, we had already
been surveying the whole city
[1:06:30] on what's out there.
[1:06:31] So we had a good idea of what's
out there and it was manageable.
[1:06:34] We felt that we can
handle that on our own.
[1:06:36] So we established a
systematic process
[1:06:38] to identify, document,
verify and map
[1:06:41] out areas throughout town.
[1:06:43] That survey right
there on the right hand
[1:06:44] side that was available online.
[1:06:46] I want to thank Josh
and giz coordinated.
[1:06:51] Help out with that and get that
online so folks can submit stuff
[1:06:54] because that's
important for us to be
[1:06:56] able to gauge what's out there.
[1:06:59] So the community feedback.
[1:07:01] So we did obtain several
surveys over 100.
[1:07:05] We got that data.
[1:07:07] And then we created
our work orders
[1:07:08] to identify certain
areas throughout town,
[1:07:10] as you can see right there.
[1:07:11] So you'll see looking for
clusters high volume areas.
[1:07:14] Any safety concerns allowed us
and our staff and Daniel, Chris
[1:07:19] and other folks were
out taking pictures
[1:07:20] and verifying loads and coming
up with this kind of a heat map,
[1:07:24] if you will.
[1:07:26] And also, we were looking at
removing any duplicates or piles
[1:07:29] that were no longer at the
curb and then at the end,
[1:07:32] results create efficient routes.
[1:07:34] So this is all important as
we start our curbside program.
[1:07:41] And then we followed up with our
strategic city crew collection.
[1:07:45] We decided for us
to handle this.
[1:07:48] We evaluated the
equipment, resources.
[1:07:51] Spoke to these
guys here and said,
[1:07:52] let's get a specialized team
to focus on this mission.
[1:07:54] That way it's a core
group, and that's
[1:07:56] what they're going to be doing
for the next couple of weeks.
[1:07:59] We also had equipment
available from Parks and rec.
[1:08:01] Jay still here.
[1:08:02] Thanks for letting
us borrow that.
[1:08:03] That grappler unit work
together, helping each other out
[1:08:06] through various departments.
[1:08:07] So that was very beneficial.
[1:08:09] We do have an additional
unit coming in.
[1:08:12] It's here.
[1:08:13] It's here today.
[1:08:14] So it's here.
[1:08:15] So we're able to
duplicate our efforts
[1:08:18] and hopefully move things
a little bit quicker.
[1:08:21] Also again develop
the collection
[1:08:23] routes based on the submissions
that we've received.
[1:08:26] We also are conducting
daily recaps.
[1:08:29] I know yesterday we
kicked off our collection,
[1:08:31] we were able to pick up 7 loads.
[1:08:33] About 2 and 1/2 tons is
what we collected yesterday.
[1:08:37] I know it doesn't sound
6.9 at the end of today,
[1:08:42] so we're making progress.
[1:08:44] So we'll continue to
have those daily recaps
[1:08:47] to make sure that things are
running efficiently out there.
[1:08:49] We're running into
any concerns, anything
[1:08:51] out there that we
need to be aware of.
[1:08:52] So we can alter our operations.
[1:08:55] But so far things
are going great.
[1:08:57] And you'll see on the right
side just a quick snapshot
[1:09:01] of the data that we're
collecting so that we
[1:09:04] can operate efficiently.
[1:09:08] So the initial sweep
began yesterday began
[1:09:11] on the West West Side of town.
[1:09:13] We'll be heading East.
[1:09:15] As we mentioned, press releases
and different messages as we're
[1:09:19] collecting flood related debris.
[1:09:21] We want to emphasize
that to everybody
[1:09:23] that it's flood related debris.
[1:09:26] Household items, construction
debris, things like that.
[1:09:30] Now we're not collecting brush
or household hazardous items.
[1:09:35] Brush is going to be conducted
at a different phase.
[1:09:38] So I'll touch on what
Republic is doing.
[1:09:41] Costume Republic.
[1:09:42] That's our solid waste program.
[1:09:44] That's utilizing one
of our resources.
[1:09:45] So as our crews are moving
from West to East picking up
[1:09:49] this debris, Republic will
start their brush collection
[1:09:53] second week in September.
[1:09:55] And then once then we'll
follow back after them.
[1:09:59] They're going to pick up what's
allowed per our contract.
[1:10:02] So that's helping us get some of
this debris picked up by them.
[1:10:05] And then we'll follow along
pick up any remaining.
[1:10:07] So that's how this phase is
going to work for this brush.
[1:10:11] And again we'll stay on
Route during this phase.
[1:10:14] And staff will be
confirming cleared streets.
[1:10:17] That way.
[1:10:17] We don't have any folks that
say, our stuff was out there,
[1:10:20] so we'll have initial
route inspections.
[1:10:24] Then they collect the stuff.
[1:10:26] I'm sorry, I have a question.
[1:10:27] Sorry the green things.
[1:10:29] Are there different
actual shapes to.
[1:10:33] Yeah they vary.
[1:10:35] Some of them are they
dumpsters or those
[1:10:37] are all the work orders.
[1:10:38] Those are all the OK locations.
[1:10:41] Got it.
[1:10:41] So people submitted
their surveys,
[1:10:43] and then we transfer them over
to our software that we use.
[1:10:47] And that's how we're
able to map out.
[1:10:49] Thank you.
[1:10:50] 
[1:10:54] And so the next steps finalize
the plan for vegetative debris.
[1:10:58] I submitted an application
today to the Texas Commission
[1:11:01] on Environmental Quality
for the processing site.
[1:11:06] So we're also going to utilize
our solid waste program,
[1:11:09] as I mentioned earlier.
[1:11:10] And then we'll
develop those routes.
[1:11:13] There's going to
be new submissions.
[1:11:14] They're going to be coming in.
[1:11:15] So we're going to review
them and verify them
[1:11:17] just like we did in the past.
[1:11:18] And then important thing here
is for us to continue tracking
[1:11:21] all operations and expenses.
[1:11:23] Our work order software is
it's actually coming in handy.
[1:11:27] It's helping out
with our routes.
[1:11:29] We're having pictures document
as much stuff as we can,
[1:11:32] attach invoices.
[1:11:34] I talked to Angel
during our meeting
[1:11:37] and he was impressed with
what we already have.
[1:11:39] He's like, oh, you guys are.
[1:11:40] Yeah you have a good
system already in place.
[1:11:43] So also continued public
education and update.
[1:11:47] Update the public accordingly
with what we've done
[1:11:49] and what we're going to
be doing in the future.
[1:11:51] So we've done quite a
bit, but there's still
[1:11:54] a lot of work ahead of us.
[1:11:55] But without our systems
in place, the volunteers,
[1:11:59] dedicated staff having
a good system here,
[1:12:01] I think that makes
things possible.
[1:12:03] So very proud of everybody
who's helped out to this point
[1:12:07] and at this time, take any
questions you may have.
[1:12:12] Well, I thought first questions,
comments I do not thank
[1:12:17] you for all your team is doing.
[1:12:20] I'm seeing it.
[1:12:21] Thank you.
[1:12:21] Very impressed with
what you've all
[1:12:25] got coordinated and organized.
[1:12:26] And so thanks for
doing the good work.
[1:12:29] You're welcome.
[1:12:30] Thank you David.
[1:12:32] First thank you Brandon.
[1:12:34] Thank you Chris everybody.
[1:12:36] Gentlemen, thank you all for.
[1:12:39] The question's been asked.
[1:12:41] Michael and I discussed it.
[1:12:44] I know the answer, but it's
just what took so long.
[1:12:51] Who's paying for this.
[1:12:52] I know the answer to
what took so long.
[1:12:54] Don't answer that.
[1:12:54] I'm not asking.
[1:12:56] But this is something the
city is doing right now.
[1:12:59] Because I'm just saying
it for the public to hear.
[1:13:03] But we don't have FEMA.
[1:13:05] FEMA is not here.
[1:13:06] They're not doing anything.
[1:13:07] They even when they do
sign the declarations
[1:13:10] and we are still
working on that.
[1:13:11] And I know the
mayor is pushing us.
[1:13:15] That's 75% And Julie, if I'm
stealing some of your thunder
[1:13:19] here, but the city
is still going
[1:13:23] to be responsible
for 25% of whatever
[1:13:25] the total bill is from town
Creek Road to turtle Creek.
[1:13:31] With the infrastructural
problems that
[1:13:32] we had to debris cleanup.
[1:13:35] The question was asked,
why did it take so long.
[1:13:37] Well we are.
[1:13:40] One month and 9 days
from our last disaster.
[1:13:47] It doesn't just
happen overnight.
[1:13:49] Your crew.
[1:13:50] All crews are out doing
what they need to do.
[1:13:56] Chris, I know you were mucking
turtle Creek when the pipe broke
[1:14:01] and everything that had
to be brought in to fix
[1:14:03] the sewer line that popped.
[1:14:05] So what took so long
is we're trying to get
[1:14:08] our citizens utilities fixed.
[1:14:11] And correct me if I'm wrong.
[1:14:12] Please and I've
been wrong before,
[1:14:15] but that's what
number one, we got
[1:14:17] to take care of our citizens,
get water back to them.
[1:14:20] Thank goodness kpub was on top
of it and got everything fixed.
[1:14:24] But sewer.
[1:14:26] That's what's taking so long.
[1:14:27] Second thing is I'm going to
quote council member McKinney.
[1:14:31] We don't have the money,
but we're doing it.
[1:14:35] So please, just bear with
us, bear with your staff,
[1:14:41] and just know that we're
trying everything that we can.
[1:14:45] And I don't mean not to look
on this side of the road
[1:14:47] either, but.
[1:14:49] But from Michael
and Kim and Dalton
[1:14:51] all the way down from
everybody upstairs.
[1:14:54] Thank y'all.
[1:14:55] Because it's not an easy task.
[1:14:57] It's not an easy thing to do.
[1:14:59] And then when you're out there
trying to do your absolute best
[1:15:01] and help the citizens and you
have people making comments,
[1:15:04] it's just right.
[1:15:05] Thank you.
[1:15:06] You're welcome.
[1:15:07] And I'll just make a
quick point on that
[1:15:09] is yes, our initial
operations were to tend
[1:15:13] to critical infrastructure.
[1:15:16] Across the board
in public works.
[1:15:18] I mean we're hit pretty hard.
[1:15:20] So folks are always going
to start putting debris out.
[1:15:23] Initially last
year the state was
[1:15:26] handling this debris cleanup.
[1:15:28] And they jumped on it right
away through their process.
[1:15:31] Even back then, we still
had our system in place
[1:15:35] where we told the state we have
our addresses ready last year.
[1:15:38] So this year, it's on us.
[1:15:41] We had looked at either a third
party or if we can do it either
[1:15:44] way, you have to do things
the right way so you
[1:15:46] can seek proper reimbursement.
[1:15:48] So now we're able to
pivot towards that.
[1:15:51] And you don't want to
initially have a debris cleanup
[1:15:54] right away because you're going
to run in circles all day long.
[1:15:58] So I think now it's a
systematic approach.
[1:16:00] We're sweeping the city
and folks are understanding
[1:16:03] that we've talked to
several people that are
[1:16:06] they're very thankful for us.
[1:16:07] They understand we've been
busy doing other stuff.
[1:16:10] And so yeah, they're
cooperating and they're
[1:16:13] understanding real quick.
[1:16:16] I know I mentioned
Stephanie and Angela,
[1:16:18] but also Brandon Kelly, Isaac
Rodriguez and Joel miners
[1:16:21] with street.
[1:16:21] So they've been just want
to recognize them as well
[1:16:23] for their efforts and
being able to pivot
[1:16:25] from all the other street
stuff we've been doing.
[1:16:27] This is mainly a
solid waste task.
[1:16:31] But we don't have a true
solid waste division.
[1:16:34] But these guys from streets have
been able to pivot, into that.
[1:16:37] So outside of this we're still
tending to regular operations
[1:16:41] that we have to.
[1:16:41] So I just wanted to
recognize them as well.
[1:16:44] I guess one last thing.
[1:16:46] I'm sorry.
[1:16:49] Vouchers I know what they are.
[1:16:51] We know what they're for.
[1:16:53] But there's been
a lot of comments.
[1:16:54] And it's not the
city of Kerrville
[1:16:57] that runs the landfill.
[1:17:00] That's where public
waste services.
[1:17:02] And if they say you can't bring
drywall in on the vouchers,
[1:17:07] we've got to respect
what their rules are.
[1:17:11] But is there any talk of
leniency on that from Republic
[1:17:17] for people that have
vouchers or have debris that
[1:17:21] needs because it happened
again I mean, the mayor, we
[1:17:25] all kind of walked around and
saw neighborhoods that had three
[1:17:29] foot of drywall that had to
be cut out of the house with,
[1:17:32] wet insulation.
[1:17:34] And they don't take contracting
debris on the vouchers,
[1:17:38] is there.
[1:17:39] So that is per our contract.
[1:17:42] And that's something that
we'll be looking at, I guess,
[1:17:44] when we do an after
action review.
[1:17:47] But Republic has been very
helpful in other aspects.
[1:17:52] The voucher system, Republic's
not set up to have that in place
[1:17:55] during a disaster recovery.
[1:17:58] It will eat into
their numbers right.
[1:18:01] The bottom line.
[1:18:03] This voucher system is meant
for just regular, stuff
[1:18:09] that you can bring
from the house.
[1:18:11] There's other reasons why they
don't allow construction debris.
[1:18:14] Initially people abuse it.
[1:18:16] There's been contractors that
have been doing commercial work,
[1:18:19] and they use a voucher
from their home,
[1:18:22] and they charge a
customer to dispose it,
[1:18:25] and then they come
and get their voucher
[1:18:27] and they take
construction debris
[1:18:28] and they don't pay for it.
[1:18:29] So there's a lot of those
instances that happen.
[1:18:33] And I'm not saying just here
just in general from there,
[1:18:35] there are corporate companies.
[1:18:36] So they have their
rules to stand by.
[1:18:39] But I was able to work with
Republic on some of the piles
[1:18:43] that go out there
and say, OK, look,
[1:18:44] they have construction debris.
[1:18:46] They also have household items.
[1:18:48] Can I use their voucher.
[1:18:49] Leave the construction debris.
[1:18:51] I'll take the other items.
[1:18:52] That's the initial phase
that I talked about earlier.
[1:18:55] And they work with me on that.
[1:18:56] Say, yes, I'll let your guys
because I'm setting my eyes on I
[1:18:59] said, I'm verifying I took
pictures, I have documentation,
[1:19:02] I have all the work orders.
[1:19:04] Those were the initial, I think,
18 sites that we picked up.
[1:19:08] I was able to utilize that.
[1:19:09] So Republic they
have been helping out
[1:19:11] and then the remaining stuff
is what we're picking up now
[1:19:14] as part of our curbside program.
[1:19:17] Thank you so much.
[1:19:18] Yes, sir.
[1:19:19] You're welcome.
[1:19:20] Any other questions.
[1:19:20] I want to echo.
[1:19:21] Thank you.
[1:19:23] All of you.
[1:19:23] Thank you for all
you've done, we'll
[1:19:26] get to Julie in just a SEC.
[1:19:27] But one thing that hasn't been
mentioned today that should be
[1:19:32] is the crews that cleared
the way for the cemetery
[1:19:36] on town Creek Road.
[1:19:39] I know of two families
that had to wait
[1:19:42] to bury their loved
ones because there was
[1:19:44] no access to those cemeteries.
[1:19:46] So thank you for helping
those families get closure.
[1:19:49] It meant a lot to them and
they are really grateful.
[1:19:52] So thank you very much.
[1:19:54] Yeah and for I'll get you and
for the picking up the stuff
[1:20:03] and having a plan.
[1:20:05] Not waiting for outside help.
[1:20:08] Thank you for doing that too.
[1:20:09] I really appreciate it.
[1:20:11] Yes, ma'am.
[1:20:12] OK sorry I wasn't
pushing you, Brandon.
[1:20:14] I remember you met
me at 5:30 last
[1:20:17] year in the morning
to block a street
[1:20:19] for the Water Street festival.
[1:20:20] So that's the first
time I met you.
[1:20:22] And I remember thinking
you were jolly at 5:30.
[1:20:25] I was just very
thankful for your help.
[1:20:29] And of course, I need
you again this year.
[1:20:30] But thank you for what you're
doing above and beyond your Call
[1:20:33] of Duty.
[1:20:35] The question I had was
some of the folks I met
[1:20:39] might not still be
back in their home.
[1:20:41] And if you were to go to their
address, you wouldn't find them.
[1:20:44] So if they don't have
access to a computer
[1:20:47] or what should I tell people.
[1:20:49] Should they go to her
together for debris
[1:20:51] for to be put on the map or just
for an understanding of what
[1:20:56] they will get to put out.
[1:20:57] And I know what it is, but
how can they find that.
[1:21:01] So Kelly and I had that
conversation earlier,
[1:21:04] and I think we want
to continue that as a
[1:21:07] go to communication route.
[1:21:08] But folks can call our
office here 830257 8,000.
[1:21:14] And then just ask to speak
to somebody in public works
[1:21:17] and 9 times out of 10
10 times out of 10.
[1:21:20] Stephanie will take
that call, and then
[1:21:22] she'll be able to
direct them or even
[1:21:24] take create a new work order.
[1:21:26] And so yeah, we'll
handle it that way.
[1:21:28] Yeah Kelly or through us.
[1:21:30] So either way is fine.
[1:21:31] Thank you very much.
[1:21:32] You're welcome.
[1:21:33] Thank you.
[1:21:35] All right.
[1:21:35] Thank you.
[1:21:36] Julie, are you up.
[1:21:38] I have nothing.
[1:21:39] Unless you have questions,
you're listed on the agenda.
[1:21:42] Wow I didn't know
you could do that.
[1:21:44] That's great.
[1:21:45] I'm saving my voice.
[1:21:46] All right.
[1:21:49] All right.
[1:21:49] If there's no further
questions or comments,
[1:21:54] there's no need to go
to executive session.
[1:21:56] I'm going to go ahead and
close the workshop at 521.
[1:22:00]