1 00:05:14,450 --> 00:05:21,130 Welcome to the July 20th, 20th, 26th, regular, bro, assembly meeting. Will, Ms. Matson, please lead us in the pledge of allegiance. 2 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:32,300 With 3 00:05:37,460 --> 00:05:39,160 the clerk, please call the roll. 4 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:59,800 All right, that takes a ceremony matters. We do not have any ceremony matters this evening. 5 00:06:00,380 --> 00:06:05,380 That takes us to citizen comments. No one is signed up for citizen comments. 6 00:06:05,860 --> 00:06:11,200 Let's say nice comments are open. Is there anyone in the audience that would like to come to the podium and speak? 7 00:06:12,260 --> 00:06:16,780 All right, he's seeing and hearing none since the comments is now closed. We are on to schedule reports 8 00:06:16,780 --> 00:06:23,540 Board of Education and Ms. Cara Fortbearer said she would not be here this week, but next meeting she'll be here 9 00:06:23,540 --> 00:06:32,780 due to their new financial officer is getting their bearings. That's what it sounded like. So she'll have a financial report someone for us next week. 10 00:06:33,620 --> 00:06:35,600 All right, that takes us to public hearings. 11 00:06:35,840 --> 00:06:42,260 5A, ordinance 21-18 and made in KGBC Title I relating to certain fines for animal 12 00:06:42,260 --> 00:06:48,180 protection offices and KGBC Title VI relating to animal establishment permits. 13 00:06:48,780 --> 00:06:54,400 The assembly considered ordinance 21-18 at its meeting on July 6, 20-26 and set it for 14 00:06:54,400 --> 00:06:57,040 a public hearing on July 20, 20-26. 15 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,140 The public hearing will be conducted in the following format. 16 00:06:59,140 --> 00:07:03,240 And a brief staff presentation followed up by a public testimony followed by a brief staff summary. 17 00:07:03,780 --> 00:07:07,500 And I do not see Mr. Eddie there, so Ms. Smith. 18 00:07:07,860 --> 00:07:11,740 Yes, the Animal Protection Director was called away, so I told him I'd do the best I could. 19 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:15,800 21-18 does two things. 20 00:07:16,400 --> 00:07:25,580 First, it requires animal establishment permits for any location that's used for the rescue and care of animals. 21 00:07:25,580 --> 00:07:28,520 and then it increases certain fines. 22 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,900 As to the first item with the Animal Establishment Permits, 23 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:36,880 there are a number of groups that do animal rescue 24 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:38,960 and some are more formal, some are less formal, 25 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:40,400 and they also change over time. 26 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:44,380 And the Animal Protection Department, 27 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,380 their concern is wanting to just be able to see 28 00:07:47,380 --> 00:07:50,400 that the animals are in a suitable environment 29 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:52,180 and that they're being well taken care of. 30 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,120 So they'd like to require animal establishment permits 31 00:07:55,120 --> 00:08:00,780 for that purpose. And then the purpose in increasing the fines is that the animal protection 32 00:08:00,780 --> 00:08:05,160 director feels that some of the fines are too low and they're not enough of a deterrent, 33 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:07,340 particularly with repeat offenders. 34 00:08:08,980 --> 00:08:10,460 All right. Thank you. Is there any questions? 35 00:08:11,620 --> 00:08:12,600 I will. Ms. Palmer? 36 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:19,660 Thank you. In the Managers Report, you addressed some things with the grants for the kittens and 37 00:08:19,660 --> 00:08:25,920 mothers and the cats, and so they had to get some kind of, so there were two different 38 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:32,560 cat organizations that were awarded grants by the grants committee, slash the assembly, 39 00:08:33,340 --> 00:08:39,300 and in the process of reviewing those organizations, we realized that with the number of animals 40 00:08:39,300 --> 00:08:42,560 that they kept, they were required to have an animal establishment permits. 41 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:49,480 So one at this point has complied, one has not, and so if they don't come into compliance 42 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,480 and it's fairly soon, we were going to rescind the grant offer. 43 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:54,980 Okay, thank you. 44 00:08:55,420 --> 00:08:56,660 All right. Any other questions? 45 00:08:57,600 --> 00:08:58,340 Yep, Ms. Arnson. 46 00:08:58,860 --> 00:08:59,300 Thank you. 47 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:02,080 I just wanted to see if you might have some of the info. 48 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:05,020 I just had a couple quick clarifying questions and you may or may not know the answer. 49 00:09:06,940 --> 00:09:13,560 So the concern, like, has something happened that would necessitate the additional regulation 50 00:09:15,540 --> 00:09:20,760 or in terms of redefining who all needs the animal? 51 00:09:21,820 --> 00:09:29,120 So the Salvation Animal Protection Director has over the years had to deal with a few hoarding cases here and there. 52 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:38,960 And it's not uncommon for the people involved in the hoarding cases to also be involved in animal rescue organizations. 53 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:45,340 The issue is that they care a lot for animals and sometimes don't recognize that they've gotten 54 00:09:45,340 --> 00:09:48,420 beyond their capacity and ability to help. 55 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:52,140 And so this is a way to just provide some added oversight. 56 00:09:53,020 --> 00:09:53,940 A couple of follow-up here. 57 00:09:54,540 --> 00:09:56,400 So what is the cost of getting that permit? 58 00:10:05,870 --> 00:10:13,730 I do not know off the top of my head. Let's see if it's in here. I was just trying to look it up, too. 59 00:10:17,950 --> 00:10:33,170 I want $100, because I feel that's defined it. That's less than $100 for sure. Is there a fee? I guess. Yes, there is a fee, but it's not very big. We have the fines, but we don't have the fees to do it. Yeah. 60 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,940 So I'm just, and my question has evolved through the mayor. 61 00:10:39,940 --> 00:10:47,200 There is regarding those that are helping and are doing these services now, are we going 62 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:52,800 to create a burden on those folks that are helping to care through additional adoption 63 00:10:52,800 --> 00:11:01,260 agencies or fostering agencies, like I'm just curious if there's going to be an increased 64 00:11:01,260 --> 00:11:09,220 expense for people to be able to provide fostering services in our community with this resolution. 65 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,920 Can you see the animal protection director said we could text him if we wanted to? 66 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:15,000 I didn't bring my phone down. 67 00:11:15,380 --> 00:11:21,080 I was looking up the cost of the permit and I didn't hear that last question. 68 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:22,540 This massive demand did not. 69 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:24,620 You might have that on their website. 70 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:29,220 The fee costs are 100 for the first year and 50 for annual renewals. 71 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:30,940 Okay. 72 00:11:31,420 --> 00:11:35,680 So according to the website, it costs $100 to get the permit. 73 00:11:35,680 --> 00:11:40,480 If you fail to get the permit, it's $100, is that what this says? 74 00:11:41,780 --> 00:11:48,580 If you continue fostering or continue having animals in an establishment that's not properly permitted. 75 00:11:51,940 --> 00:11:53,460 So that's just my only concern. 76 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:59,300 I appreciate this coming forward and I understand that we want to make sure that the animals are in good environments. 77 00:11:59,900 --> 00:12:06,020 I'm just not sure what necessitates that based on the need or 78 00:12:06,020 --> 00:12:09,920 the current circumstances of the community, and that's my only concern is that you're 79 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:14,040 going to create a situation where people have to then pay money to foster in order 80 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:19,480 to be in compliance with the code when it sounds like it's intended to help prevent 81 00:12:20,020 --> 00:12:21,220 hoarding situations. 82 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,060 Or improper care or neglect. 83 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:30,440 I think that, for my understanding, most of these organizations are fine and do a good 84 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:42,960 But without the Animal Establishment Permit, the Animal Protection Department doesn't necessarily have any way to go in and periodically inspect until there's a significant problem. 85 00:12:43,300 --> 00:12:55,820 And at that point, animals may have been in trouble for a while, or the owners, some of the hoarding cases that we've dealt with have just happened because an owner lost control of the situation the animals continued to breed. 86 00:12:55,820 --> 00:13:04,800 So his goal is to be able to do inspections of all of these, you know, the locations where the rescues are going on. 87 00:13:04,940 --> 00:13:08,480 We're not talking about necessarily the fosters that are doing one or two cats. 88 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:15,180 We're talking about more organized groups that may have five or ten, or they're taking multiple litters of kittens and stuff. 89 00:13:15,660 --> 00:13:23,140 Thank you. Through the Mayor, I have one last follow-up, because that leads to my last question, which is the definition of who needs a missed out animal establishment. 90 00:13:23,140 --> 00:13:32,840 and it says any person engages in the business of selling grooming, training, boarding, or breeding animals for compensation. 91 00:13:33,500 --> 00:13:40,820 So if they are a volunteer with the organization, they would not need to get an animal establishment permit. 92 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:47,760 Or the proposal that being put here is, or any location used as an animal rescue operation. 93 00:13:49,760 --> 00:14:11,500 So, commercial activities, places that house or board horses, locations used to house any more than five adult animals of any one type other than fish and birds, and then any location used to house more than 50 foul, and then a location used as an animal rescue operation. 94 00:14:11,500 --> 00:14:20,360 Okay. So, just to be clear, last time. If I wanted to volunteer with the Humane Society, 95 00:14:20,660 --> 00:14:26,840 no, is that right? Humane Society, they do that. And they have, they call me and they're like, 96 00:14:26,940 --> 00:14:32,160 hey, we have a dog, it needs to be a fostered. I would have to have an inspection from animal 97 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:36,360 control before I would be allowed to foster that animal. If you're already working with a reputable 98 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:40,880 organization that has had animal establishment permits and you're fostering one or two animals 99 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:42,800 no, you would not. Okay. 100 00:14:46,260 --> 00:14:48,120 Okay, but I don't think that's clear in 101 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:51,800 here where it says any location, because then my house is then used as an animal 102 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,320 rescue operation. So those are my points. Thank you, you're on. 103 00:15:01,420 --> 00:15:21,740 On the rest of you. And then we've had a call. I don't know if you know that, I don't know if you know that. First of all, I need something to wrap up the whole day. All issues, you know, I get all the time. Very, very difficult for our attorney, the way the ordinance is right. He's not here also. Oh, you're my. 104 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:37,160 We were able to, personally, at the end to give their annals a lot of us going through it. 105 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:42,160 We realized we have a weakness in our ordinance to move this along and say, look, you can't 106 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,900 keep us in the house or filled with animals and they're in that shape. 107 00:15:44,900 --> 00:15:50,060 I don't, that's all I can say to you is that we're doing this because we've had outcomes 108 00:15:50,060 --> 00:15:54,460 on this where individuals start out with good intentions and they got to flee out of control 109 00:15:54,460 --> 00:15:59,920 and then they couldn't give them up. We really needed some leverage to get them to give 110 00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:04,340 them the animals, we'll get them home now because we're very good at that but there are just 111 00:16:04,340 --> 00:16:08,220 some folks who are resistant to it because they don't want to give it up and they don't 112 00:16:08,220 --> 00:16:11,880 allow them to handle it and that's what's right, that's what's bringing this issue forward. 113 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:17,580 It is not a revenue source for us, it's really an incentive to people, all right, it's beyond you. 114 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,900 And by the way, we only come out when we find out about it. 115 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:27,580 But somebody has seven pugs out there, we won't know about it because they take care of them, they're small animals. 116 00:16:28,220 --> 00:16:34,160 It's the ones that have those seven, eight small dogs that aren't caring for them and the neighbors have called us and said, 117 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,920 there's something bad going on there, we have to step in. 118 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:42,280 And that's where the fines come in, and to get them to take resolution on that. 119 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:45,360 So again, the individuals who are taking care of the animals, we never know about it. 120 00:16:46,140 --> 00:16:47,140 Do you have another follow-up? 121 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:53,040 My only thought is to maybe in the future consider doing like they did with the sign permits, 122 00:16:53,520 --> 00:17:02,980 which is don't have a fee to get your animal and an animal establishment permit, and 123 00:17:02,980 --> 00:17:07,580 And just if they don't do it, find them and it would be maybe even heftier than $100. 124 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:13,400 But that would just be my only suggestion so you, you know, incentivize participation in the program. 125 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:13,940 Thank you. 126 00:17:14,620 --> 00:17:17,820 And further Mary going, we're going to look at this program. 127 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:30,280 If it has a negative effect of what we're trying to get done, we'll be back because it's like any point when it's not working, you're trying to find out where it will start working and if we find that we have a negative effect, we will be back. 128 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:45,140 We've seen us do that in the past where all right now we've got to adjust, but right now we're dealing with several of these and realize we need a little bit more leverage on our attorney helped us with this one miss Bowling and Mr. Thompson. 129 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:46,660 Miss Bowling. 130 00:17:46,980 --> 00:17:47,620 Thank you, Your Honor. 131 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:57,700 I'm in support of this ordinance, I have had a couple of decades of animal fostering and 132 00:17:57,700 --> 00:18:00,700 this is not a solution looking for a problem. 133 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:07,200 This is a solution for a problem that our community has experienced, so I'm in support 134 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:07,740 of it. 135 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,020 By the way, we're still in just a discussion with staff. 136 00:18:11,020 --> 00:18:13,520 We haven't got to the assembly motion, so we can see. 137 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:14,580 Yes, I understand. 138 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:14,980 Okay. 139 00:18:14,980 --> 00:18:17,420 But I'm looking forward to it being enacted. 140 00:18:17,860 --> 00:18:18,780 All right, thank you. 141 00:18:19,300 --> 00:18:19,840 Mr. Thompson? 142 00:18:20,220 --> 00:18:20,560 I'll wait. 143 00:18:20,780 --> 00:18:21,000 Okay. 144 00:18:22,580 --> 00:18:23,960 Actually, yeah, go ahead. 145 00:18:24,540 --> 00:18:31,940 Um, I think what are some of the arson's trying to get at as a worthy thing to consider. 146 00:18:32,500 --> 00:18:38,780 I think the concern is, I don't doubt that we need to, I support the ordinance for what it's trying to do. 147 00:18:38,940 --> 00:18:44,440 But in the process, are we going to be requiring people who are currently good actors to suddenly pay? 148 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:48,080 a $100 just because they're supposed to have a permit. 149 00:18:48,260 --> 00:18:49,400 That's really what the issue is, right? 150 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:51,240 Can we avoid that? 151 00:18:57,390 --> 00:18:58,670 Mike, please turn on the mic. 152 00:18:59,350 --> 00:19:00,990 Do the clerk or our follow-up adjournment. 153 00:19:01,230 --> 00:19:01,990 You don't have a motion. 154 00:19:02,130 --> 00:19:08,270 We haven't started this and we re- I don't actually, we stumbled into a dialogue before the public hearing. 155 00:19:09,190 --> 00:19:14,470 So I just want to remind everyone that they haven't got the best point yet, if we move. 156 00:19:14,470 --> 00:19:16,330 Go ahead, wait, letter, comments on the motions. 157 00:19:17,670 --> 00:19:17,850 Okay. 158 00:19:18,910 --> 00:19:19,570 You're on it. 159 00:19:20,070 --> 00:19:24,410 I realize we're still discussing during the staff presentation. 160 00:19:24,990 --> 00:19:30,430 If the assembly has those types of questions, this item could be postponed and brought back 161 00:19:30,430 --> 00:19:34,990 at the next meeting, and perhaps some clarifying language could be added. 162 00:19:35,190 --> 00:19:38,330 I think it's a valid point looking at the language in this ordinance. 163 00:19:38,930 --> 00:19:42,990 And at that point, if you did choose to postpone the animal protection director would be available. 164 00:19:42,990 --> 00:19:46,410 and could answer your questions better than we can. 165 00:19:48,210 --> 00:19:50,230 Does that answer everybody's question? 166 00:19:50,770 --> 00:19:50,930 Okay. 167 00:19:51,870 --> 00:19:52,550 Thank you. 168 00:19:53,350 --> 00:19:56,350 Moving to the public hearing, the public hearing is now open. 169 00:19:56,550 --> 00:19:59,350 Is there anyone in the audience that would like to provide testimony? 170 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:06,300 All right, seeing and hearing none, the public hearing is now closed. That takes us to an assembly. I'm motion. I'll entertain a motion from the assembly. 171 00:20:07,680 --> 00:20:18,260 I'm Ms. Madsen. I move to adopt ordinance 2118, amending KGBC Title I relating to certain fines for animal protection offenses and KGBC Title VI relating to animal establishment permit permits. 172 00:20:19,060 --> 00:20:25,260 Let's move by, moved by Madison, seconded by Thompson, discussion, Mr. Thompson. 173 00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:26,440 I think you're right. 174 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:33,520 I'd like to propose an amendment, move to amend, I got to find where it is here. 175 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:41,960 And the definition in section one, where it says animal rescue operation means a facility 176 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:47,900 used to house, tray, homeless, et cetera, I would like to insert the words more than 177 00:20:47,900 --> 00:21:00,460 and five between and have it read an animal rescue operation means the facility used to house more than five stray homeless abandoned surrender to unwanted animals, et cetera, et cetera. 178 00:21:00,660 --> 00:21:12,540 And that would then require us to modify section two, and again, including any in all locations where more than five animals are housed sheltered or fostered by the establishment. 179 00:21:12,540 --> 00:21:14,380 If I can get a second, I'll get a second. 180 00:21:15,340 --> 00:21:17,480 Moved by Thompson, second by Matt Send of the clerk. 181 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:18,420 Understand that. 182 00:21:18,780 --> 00:21:20,060 I did your honor, thank you. 183 00:21:20,740 --> 00:21:21,720 Yep, Mr. Thompson. 184 00:21:22,100 --> 00:21:22,460 Two reasons. 185 00:21:22,660 --> 00:21:27,680 First of all, if there's no minimum that you have to hit, 186 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,960 that means if I find a kitten on the sidewalk and take it home, 187 00:21:31,380 --> 00:21:33,820 and I'm fostering it, I'm taking it technically in violation, 188 00:21:34,060 --> 00:21:35,840 like you get $100 fine for just finding out 189 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:37,900 that somebody drops a kitten off or on the trail 190 00:21:37,900 --> 00:21:40,080 or something like that, and I don't think that's the intent. 191 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:52,300 Also, you know, if we're going to chase after every person in the in the burrow that out of the goodness of their heart is trying to foster an animal and keep it off the streets, but then doesn't really want a full-time pet wants to give it away. 192 00:21:54,200 --> 00:22:04,260 We don't need our animal control officers to be chasing all these down. So I think that just like we did with the animal establishment, we have it's more than five animals of anyone type or more than 10 total. 193 00:22:04,260 --> 00:22:08,200 I think if we change this to more than five animals, it reaches a happy medium. 194 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:13,580 Now that doesn't address the fee issue, which I think is another issue that we do. 195 00:22:13,780 --> 00:22:20,420 But at a minimum, I think this kind of reached a happy medium in terms of the level of regulation that we're establishing. 196 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:21,040 Thank you. 197 00:22:22,740 --> 00:22:24,060 Any other discussion on the amendments? 198 00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:27,340 Is bowling? 199 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:27,920 Nope. 200 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,260 Okay, please call the roll on the amendments. 201 00:22:32,820 --> 00:22:43,540 Okay, and this is inserting more than five in sections one, in section two, to clarify that the intent is more than five animals being housed. 202 00:22:44,060 --> 00:22:45,900 That's not okay, okay. 203 00:22:46,620 --> 00:22:55,320 Arnson, yes, bowling, yes, Mattson, yes, or Tess, yes, Palmer, yes, Thompson, all right. 204 00:22:55,820 --> 00:22:56,480 Six, yes, runner. 205 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,800 All right, they take away some back to the main amended motion. 206 00:23:00,820 --> 00:23:06,620 I move to postpone this item until the next regular meeting, for the purposes of having 207 00:23:06,620 --> 00:23:09,900 staff bring us back a fee change. 208 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:11,840 We can ask for more questions. 209 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:12,260 Okay. 210 00:23:13,020 --> 00:23:14,060 Moved by... 211 00:23:14,060 --> 00:23:14,360 Second. 212 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:17,340 Thompson, seconded by Palmer. 213 00:23:18,850 --> 00:23:19,810 Sorry, I'm just writing these down. 214 00:23:22,740 --> 00:23:22,960 Okay. 215 00:23:23,120 --> 00:23:23,620 Any discussion? 216 00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:25,860 Moving it to August. 217 00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:27,720 What's that? 218 00:23:28,260 --> 00:23:28,840 August 3rd. 219 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:29,580 August 3rd meeting? 220 00:23:29,900 --> 00:23:30,160 Your Honor. 221 00:23:30,360 --> 00:23:30,560 Go ahead. 222 00:23:30,620 --> 00:23:31,280 May I ask a question? 223 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:43,080 So, could this motion be clarified to postpone this to the next regular meeting and direct staff to bring back a resolution addressing the animal protection fees? 224 00:23:43,300 --> 00:23:43,400 Yes. 225 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:44,040 All right. 226 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:56,020 And just under discussion, Your Honor, just I think staff's clear that we would like to have a phenomenal fee and take a look at the relative fines with regards to that. 227 00:23:56,580 --> 00:23:58,180 And Eddie can answer questions first. 228 00:23:58,180 --> 00:23:58,680 Right. 229 00:23:59,500 --> 00:23:59,700 Okay. 230 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:00,920 Any discussion? 231 00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:03,100 I'll postpone it until August 3rd. 232 00:24:03,220 --> 00:24:04,160 All right. 233 00:24:04,260 --> 00:24:05,000 Please call the roll. 234 00:24:07,340 --> 00:24:09,030 Second was by Palmer. 235 00:24:10,020 --> 00:24:10,500 Thank you. 236 00:24:13,210 --> 00:24:13,910 Palmer. 237 00:24:14,350 --> 00:24:14,810 Yes. 238 00:24:15,310 --> 00:24:16,030 Or Tess. 239 00:24:16,150 --> 00:24:16,410 Yes. 240 00:24:16,790 --> 00:24:17,030 Matson. 241 00:24:17,370 --> 00:24:17,510 Yes. 242 00:24:17,750 --> 00:24:18,030 Bowling. 243 00:24:19,030 --> 00:24:19,730 Yes. 244 00:24:20,370 --> 00:24:20,650 Matson. 245 00:24:20,890 --> 00:24:21,010 Yes. 246 00:24:21,830 --> 00:24:22,090 Thompson. 247 00:24:22,450 --> 00:24:22,570 Okay. 248 00:24:23,330 --> 00:24:26,230 That takes us to 5B. 249 00:24:26,230 --> 00:24:30,890 ordinance 21-19 amending the FY-27 Burrow budget by making supplementary 250 00:24:30,890 --> 00:24:36,310 appropriations in the amount of $1,980,000. For the remain and Roosevelt Water 251 00:24:36,310 --> 00:24:40,390 Maine replacement project, South Thomas Water Improvement Project phase is five, 252 00:24:40,630 --> 00:24:45,930 right? I can't remember real and new rules. And the Burrow's Road Safety Action Plan. 253 00:24:46,650 --> 00:24:51,810 The assembly considered ordinance 21-19 at its meeting on July 6, 2026 and set 254 00:24:51,810 --> 00:24:55,750 it for a public hearing on July 20, 2026. The public hearing will be conducted in 255 00:24:55,750 --> 00:24:56,450 the following format. 256 00:24:56,870 --> 00:24:59,950 Brief staff presentation followed by public testimony, followed by brief- 257 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:07,900 Staff summary. Aaron and Senator are here to answer any questions? Or provide a staff summary, sorry? 258 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:28,080 So I'll cover the finances and if you have more project-oriented questions, Mr. Osvey will be available for that. So, Senator Smith, interim finance director, there are three items on this ordinance. The first is $130,000 to complete the Roe mine and Roosevelt Water Main Replacement Project. 259 00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:35,180 As is explained in the agenda statement, the staff is applying for an extension of the 260 00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:41,360 the low drinking water fund loan for this project that would increase the funding available 261 00:25:41,360 --> 00:25:47,480 in that loan by $70,000 and even though it's called a loan, there's actually a principle 262 00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:50,040 forgiveness, so it's more like a grant, it's just slower. 263 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:56,920 So, and we've had good indication that that loan expansion would be approved, but we don't 264 00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:04,560 actually have it, and in order to sign the contract amendment with the contractor out there, 265 00:26:04,940 --> 00:26:06,860 we'd have to have the full amount appropriated. 266 00:26:07,060 --> 00:26:11,080 So if the loan doesn't come through, the full amount would be $130,000. 267 00:26:11,420 --> 00:26:15,680 However, staff believes that the loan will come through, or the expansion of the loan, and 268 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:20,560 that the final cost to the South Tonga Service Area Water Fund would be $59,100. 269 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:29,640 The second portion of the project is the Ravenwood booster and storage tank for 1.6 million. 270 00:26:30,500 --> 00:26:36,620 Again, that is through another drinking water fund loan. 271 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:48,860 And this is phase six, this particular project or this series of projects have been going on for probably close to 10 years at this point. 272 00:26:48,860 --> 00:26:58,840 And then the last item is the safe streets and roads for all the total grant amount is 250,000, but 20% of that is required local match for 50. 273 00:26:59,180 --> 00:27:13,360 So 200 would come from, I believe it's the general, excuse me, the 50,000 match would come from the general fund because it would cover multiple potential service areas. 274 00:27:13,360 --> 00:27:14,500 Is there 275 00:27:16,900 --> 00:27:17,300 any questions? 276 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:19,520 Is there a test? 277 00:27:20,020 --> 00:27:20,080 No? 278 00:27:21,100 --> 00:27:21,540 Yes. 279 00:27:22,980 --> 00:27:23,680 Through the mayor. 280 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:30,220 The Roosevelt Water Main Replacement Project of 1.1,600,000, 281 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:35,080 is that also one of these programs that has been ongoing 282 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:39,400 over a number of years and do we have, like, 283 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:41,900 how much money do we spend on this? 284 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:44,380 How much money has been spent, not we, but how much money has been spent? 285 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:55,200 I do know that. I don't know that. So the- 286 00:27:55,200 --> 00:28:01,020 So for those of you who didn't hear, he said it's been probably closer to 20 years in multiple phases. 287 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:01,280 Okay. 288 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:06,160 And the- the roadmine in Roosevelt, I'm not sure if I misheard you, but the roadmine in Roosevelt 289 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:10,160 water main replacement, this is to finish it off and it's 130,000. 290 00:28:10,660 --> 00:28:15,100 The 1.6 is for the booster station and storage tank. 291 00:28:15,100 --> 00:28:19,680 That will help elevate water pressures throughout the district. 292 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,800 It's been also been a long-needed project. 293 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,600 You're right, I refer to the wrong project. 294 00:28:27,100 --> 00:28:34,940 But the figure of one point or one million six hundred thousand stands out to me, but I don't really have any history with this understanding of this. 295 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:42,440 In the end, is it who's paying these large amounts of money in this particular case, the one million six hundred thousand dollars? 296 00:28:43,660 --> 00:28:48,660 Most of it is coming from the state, if not all of it, through the loan forgiveness programs. 297 00:28:48,780 --> 00:28:53,980 These drinking water fund loans and the clean water fund loans at the time that we were applying for them. 298 00:28:54,100 --> 00:28:57,880 They all had principle forgiveness attached to them and that's still ongoing. 299 00:28:58,920 --> 00:28:59,880 That works, thank you. 300 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:11,260 Mr. Thompson, thank you, I guess it was probably applied to both of them but if we don't get the loan and we have 59,100 that will be 301 00:29:11,260 --> 00:29:13,940 be borne by the rate pairs out there, is that correct? 302 00:29:15,380 --> 00:29:20,360 On this one, we already have a loan of $709,000. 303 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,300 What we're asking to do is increase it by 10%, 304 00:29:23,300 --> 00:29:24,920 which is allowable under the guidelines. 305 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,100 So if that extra 10% doesn't come through, 306 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:34,300 then the water service would be required to pay the full $70,900. 307 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,800 Or actually plus the $70,000 plus the $59. 308 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:40,680 So they'd be paying the full $130. 309 00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:44,280 30 if that 10% loan increase does not come through. 310 00:29:44,420 --> 00:29:49,380 But the remainder of the 780,000 would be taken up by principal forgiveness. 311 00:29:50,100 --> 00:29:50,260 Yes. 312 00:29:50,820 --> 00:29:59,080 Is there also any outstanding amounts that would be coming out of that 1,6 million, or is that all considered already? 313 00:30:04,590 --> 00:30:31,650 There, and I'll be acting public works director. With any utility project, there's a lot of unknowns. So until you actually get into the ground, you don't know what those additional costs or overruns may be. I mean, that's the same situation we ran into on Reminder Roosevelt. Until the contractor started the work, there's a lot of things that you can't account for. I guess I was just asking if there's any matching funds that the service area is going to have to put up questions. 314 00:30:34,070 --> 00:30:35,710 No, not at this time. 315 00:30:36,130 --> 00:30:36,310 Okay. 316 00:30:36,850 --> 00:30:39,090 That's done, yeah, that answers that, thank you very much. 317 00:30:40,110 --> 00:30:40,810 Any other questions? 318 00:30:42,050 --> 00:30:43,250 Ms. Bowling, no questions? 319 00:30:44,870 --> 00:30:46,070 Okay, thank you. 320 00:30:47,270 --> 00:30:47,870 Second here. 321 00:30:48,490 --> 00:30:51,890 All right, that takes us to public testimony. 322 00:30:52,330 --> 00:30:53,310 Public hearing is now open. 323 00:30:53,490 --> 00:30:56,190 Is there anyone in the public that would like to provide testimony on this subject? 324 00:30:56,870 --> 00:30:59,630 Seeing and hearing none, public comment is now closed. 325 00:30:59,630 --> 00:31:01,850 I'll entertain a motion from the assembly. 326 00:31:02,270 --> 00:31:02,750 Your Honor. 327 00:31:03,150 --> 00:31:05,050 Ms. Arton. 328 00:31:05,430 --> 00:31:09,810 I move to adopt ordinance 2119, which appropriates funding for three projects. 329 00:31:10,350 --> 00:31:17,190 130,000 from the South Tongus Water Service Area Fund for the Roe Mine and Roosevelt Water Main Replacement Project. 330 00:31:17,550 --> 00:31:25,010 1,600,000 from an Alaska Drinking Water Fund loan for the South Tongus Water Improvement Phase 6, 331 00:31:25,250 --> 00:31:27,950 Ravenwood Booster Station and Storage Tink Project. 332 00:31:27,950 --> 00:31:39,990 And up to 200,000 in federal safe streets and roads for all grant funds with up to a $50,000 required local match for development of the Burrows Road Safety Action Plan. 333 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:44,160 Second. 334 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,780 As moved by Arjun, seconded by Palmer. 335 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:47,620 Is there a discussion? 336 00:31:50,070 --> 00:31:50,350 Your honor. 337 00:31:50,690 --> 00:31:51,490 Yep, Mr. Thompson. 338 00:31:51,930 --> 00:32:00,830 I moved to divide the question to consider the streets and roads for all discretionary grant awards separately from the two capital bond items. 339 00:32:01,770 --> 00:32:02,830 Is there an objection? 340 00:32:03,130 --> 00:32:03,930 Does anybody second to that? 341 00:32:04,450 --> 00:32:04,770 Second. 342 00:32:05,210 --> 00:32:09,530 Okay. Let's move by Thompson's second and by Arnson to divide the question. 343 00:32:10,930 --> 00:32:13,610 To consider the streets and roads item from the other. 344 00:32:13,830 --> 00:32:14,230 Oh, right. 345 00:32:14,390 --> 00:32:15,430 Separate from the other two items. 346 00:32:15,910 --> 00:32:16,090 Yes. 347 00:32:19,290 --> 00:32:20,030 Second, please. 348 00:32:20,330 --> 00:32:21,990 That was Ms. Arnson. 349 00:32:22,270 --> 00:32:22,550 Thank you. 350 00:32:23,010 --> 00:32:23,230 Yes. 351 00:32:25,580 --> 00:32:27,740 Do you have a vote on whether to divide the question? 352 00:32:28,020 --> 00:32:28,200 Okay. 353 00:32:28,660 --> 00:32:30,820 Does everybody know what Mr. Thompson brought forward? 354 00:32:31,860 --> 00:32:32,020 Yes. 355 00:32:32,340 --> 00:32:33,420 Should they divide the question out? 356 00:32:33,420 --> 00:32:34,160 Okay. 357 00:32:36,580 --> 00:32:37,620 Please call the roll. 358 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:38,320 Arnson. 359 00:32:38,740 --> 00:32:38,860 Yes. 360 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:39,520 Matson. 361 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:39,920 Yes. 362 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:40,420 Bowling. 363 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:44,860 Yes. 364 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:46,720 Fortes. 365 00:32:47,100 --> 00:32:47,620 Yes. 366 00:32:47,940 --> 00:32:48,120 Palmer. 367 00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:48,600 Yes. 368 00:32:48,820 --> 00:32:49,100 Thompson. 369 00:32:49,380 --> 00:32:49,500 Aye. 370 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:50,120 Six yes. 371 00:32:51,020 --> 00:32:53,080 Okay. The question is divided in two. 372 00:32:53,580 --> 00:32:57,240 So we will take up the portion without the streets. 373 00:32:58,300 --> 00:32:58,940 Action. 374 00:32:59,180 --> 00:33:02,340 So I'll get a second motion seen. 375 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,500 The motions are on the floor. 376 00:33:04,500 --> 00:33:12,220 So now there will be discussion on the first part of the motion which does not include the streets and roads. 377 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:15,560 Okay. Discussion on that portion. Any discussion? 378 00:33:17,460 --> 00:33:19,980 No? Okay. Please call the roll. 379 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,340 Matson. Yes. Palmer. Yes. Thompson. 380 00:33:33,740 --> 00:33:35,780 Hi. Or test. Yes. 381 00:33:36,220 --> 00:33:38,780 Bowling. Yes. 382 00:33:38,780 --> 00:33:38,940 Yes? 383 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:39,560 Aren't some? 384 00:33:39,860 --> 00:33:40,080 Yes. 385 00:33:40,380 --> 00:33:41,080 Six yes, Your Honor. 386 00:33:41,540 --> 00:33:41,740 Okay. 387 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,160 That takes us to the portion we're talking about streets grant. 388 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:46,120 Mr. Thompson. 389 00:33:46,580 --> 00:33:46,760 Thank you. 390 00:33:46,820 --> 00:34:04,560 I don't know if I'm going to be in support of this motion because we don't have road powers and this is general fund monies that's coming out of this and I'm just really concerned that we take these grants and now we're kind of getting into areas that we don't have actually authority other than operating in service areas. 391 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:10,520 The other thing is that we're going to turn right around, we're going to add $50,000 to a $10,000 grant. 392 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,140 We're going to hand it to a consultant and do a study. 393 00:34:14,820 --> 00:34:19,960 And there's no action that can be taken, it's no, we're not actually going to get any capital improvements out of this. 394 00:34:20,060 --> 00:34:21,080 We're just going to get a study. 395 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:32,320 Now I understand that we have an obligation to provide safety, general safety for the borough and roads obviously and landslides and some other things are important. 396 00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:38,820 But if we're going to limit this to service areas, that's kind of difficult. 397 00:34:39,420 --> 00:34:43,960 Also, there's some areas within the city that probably could be looked at, et cetera, et cetera. 398 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:48,380 I just don't know if it's appropriate for the burrow to be doing this type of a project. 399 00:34:48,620 --> 00:34:54,880 And frankly, turning right around and handing a $250,000 contract to a third party consultant, 400 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:59,660 which again, it's the time in material can wind up being more might be less 401 00:34:59,660 --> 00:35:00,000 I'm sorry, I'm sorry. 402 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:29,500 Another study that sits on the shelf, so I really am struggling with this. Thank you. Okay, any other discussion? Ms. Palmer? Thank you, Your Honor. I hear what Mr. Thompson is saying and I agree to a point, but also recognize that we have. Our roads are congested as all get out and we know that we need some eyes on it outside of our community. We have done a lot of people think too many tour vans and not enough bike lanes. 403 00:35:29,500 --> 00:35:47,340 and sidewalks and whatever, and it, I think it's worth us seeking this grant and going for it, but it'll also help with the transit planning, future stuff with them, and the state's plans as they continue to develop our highways and roads, so it's a good partnership opportunity in my lens, thank you. 404 00:35:47,340 --> 00:36:07,820 Okay. Mr. Oates. Thank you, Mayor. Through the Mayor, is anybody, the staff, able to speak to the opportunity cost of the borough not coming up with the 50,000 required local match fund? In other words, what's the cost, other than I guess, maybe the road safety action plan doesn't move forward? 405 00:36:07,820 --> 00:36:08,860 there 406 00:36:12,060 --> 00:36:13,900 are an OSV acting public works director. 407 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:19,780 So I guess there's a few points that I'd like to make regarding the advantages of pursuing 408 00:36:19,780 --> 00:36:22,580 this grant for the borough. 409 00:36:23,180 --> 00:36:30,180 One of which is, you know, would allow us to develop current road standards, our current 410 00:36:30,180 --> 00:36:37,540 road standards that we use for the public to do subdivisions and things like that. 411 00:36:37,540 --> 00:36:40,200 But they were created by a pass public works director. 412 00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:46,900 This grant will and the contractor would allow us through a public process to develop a 413 00:36:46,900 --> 00:36:49,980 road standard system that would be defensible. 414 00:36:50,420 --> 00:36:56,080 And I think it would help support our planning department for development purposes. 415 00:36:57,500 --> 00:37:02,880 I know the term plan is kind of a dirty word around here, but I would like to note that our 416 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:07,420 Department has had a lot of success in plan implementation over the past few years. 417 00:37:08,300 --> 00:37:12,060 Trails plan, parks plan, our fields plan. 418 00:37:12,900 --> 00:37:19,400 I also think that this allows us to support the city and tribal governments in their transportation 419 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:20,040 objectives. 420 00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:23,440 So that's kind of the standpoint. 421 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,900 I don't know if that answers your question or not, but that's my perspective. 422 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:27,380 Thank you. 423 00:37:28,620 --> 00:37:29,440 Mr. Aronson. 424 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:30,040 Thank you. 425 00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:37,020 So I really appreciate the Mr. Osby's comments there because that was one of my questions. 426 00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:43,380 The other question that I have regarding the $50,000 and the requests on the appropriation 427 00:37:43,380 --> 00:37:47,980 can, can I get some clarity on that amount? 428 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:55,360 So if this would allow staff to apply for the grant, should they not receive the grant? 429 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:59,580 But what the funds obviously wouldn't be expended, correct? 430 00:38:07,390 --> 00:38:15,850 So the grant has actually been awarded, and the assembly authorized its acceptance at 431 00:38:15,850 --> 00:38:17,390 October 16th of 2023. 432 00:38:17,970 --> 00:38:22,010 It took a long time to get the project going, and so the borough attorney was uneasy that 433 00:38:22,010 --> 00:38:25,190 with that length of time he felt the funds needed to be reappropriated. 434 00:38:27,790 --> 00:38:37,230 So we already approved the $50,000 and it's just been sitting there and then it was not included in the FY27 budget. 435 00:38:38,090 --> 00:38:49,090 So it was as a grant, the matching funds were not included in the FY27 budget that I'm aware of. 436 00:38:49,170 --> 00:38:50,730 I don't have the book in front of me. 437 00:38:50,730 --> 00:38:56,630 But the original ordinance that appropriated the funds was ordinance 2028 on November 6th of 2023. 438 00:38:57,350 --> 00:39:04,630 So at this point, if the assembly chose not to appropriate the funds, we would have to consider giving the grant back. 439 00:39:05,050 --> 00:39:12,530 So as I said, because it had been at this point, two and a half years, the attorney felt that that was a long enough time that we needed to redo this action. 440 00:39:13,550 --> 00:39:14,890 I appreciate that, thank you. 441 00:39:14,890 --> 00:39:17,520 I have a question. 442 00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:23,260 Have we lost out on any grant funds because we didn't have a safe streets and roads plan? 443 00:39:24,660 --> 00:39:28,860 The Forest Park sidewall comes to mind, but I can't remember if that was part of this. 444 00:39:28,940 --> 00:39:31,360 That would be an excellent question for Director Barry. 445 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:37,400 What I can say is that having this plan helps us leverage future grant opportunities. 446 00:39:38,060 --> 00:39:41,860 So once you have a plan in place, when a funding opportunity comes available, 447 00:39:41,860 --> 00:39:46,000 you have something to support your grant request. 448 00:39:46,500 --> 00:39:51,980 And Mr. Berry has had a lot of past success in finding, finding opportunities for the borough. 449 00:39:52,700 --> 00:39:53,360 Thank you, that answers. 450 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:54,900 Yep, go ahead Ms. Arson. 451 00:39:55,180 --> 00:39:56,520 Thank you, that maybe think of another question. 452 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,960 Then the way that this would work is that there's a- 453 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:31,200 RFP that gets put out, and then a contractor would, has the contractor already been chosen, I guess, as my question. Oh, I just, oh, it's on me. That was the other one I was going to pull. Okay, got it. Thank you. Respect. Is that what was called RESP? So I guess then follow up your honor. This is $172,000. So does the amount, the 454 00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:36,020 Is the match a percentage of the expense? 455 00:40:38,890 --> 00:40:47,870 So if it's $175,000, there's $75,000 left over, do we get to what happens with the additional funds? 456 00:40:48,330 --> 00:40:53,250 So we are responsible for 20% of the actual funds spent. 457 00:40:53,490 --> 00:40:59,490 So if the total price of the contract is $175,000, there's no overruns, then we are responsible for $35,000 of that. 458 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:02,900 Does that answer your question? 459 00:41:03,420 --> 00:41:03,700 Thank you. 460 00:41:03,760 --> 00:41:04,520 Mr. Thompson. 461 00:41:05,660 --> 00:41:09,500 So far, I've never seen a contract that hasn't had overruns. 462 00:41:10,780 --> 00:41:15,700 I just guess I keep hearing about road standards and roads. 463 00:41:16,220 --> 00:41:21,060 And from my understanding, the state manages most of the roads in the borough 464 00:41:21,060 --> 00:41:22,120 outside of the city. 465 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:24,480 The city has their own streets and roads department. 466 00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,820 And I just, you know, it's the camel's nose under the tent folks. 467 00:41:28,820 --> 00:41:34,500 every time we turn around we start creeping mission creep and you know we don't 468 00:41:34,500 --> 00:41:38,560 have road powers. We can exercise road powers inside service areas and 469 00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:43,620 that's it. What we're looking at here is adopting some very broad based 470 00:41:43,620 --> 00:41:47,900 plans for adopting road powers so if you guys want to start taking over the 471 00:41:47,900 --> 00:41:52,960 maintenance of all of North and South Tonga's highway plus Tonga's Avenue in 472 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:58,600 town plus all the roads like sunset and shoreline and point Higgins all those 473 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:01,460 roads out there, that's what's going to happen. 474 00:42:01,540 --> 00:42:06,060 The state would dearly love to give that to us, to manage. 475 00:42:07,500 --> 00:42:10,960 I don't know what that would cost, but I'm going to tell you, it's going to be a lot more than 50 grand. 476 00:42:11,720 --> 00:42:15,160 I just have a real problem with these types of grants. 477 00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:22,300 You know, we out there and just grab all that money we can, I get it, but this one just sits wrong with me. 478 00:42:24,210 --> 00:42:25,550 Thank you, is there any other discussion? 479 00:42:26,990 --> 00:42:27,510 Ms. Palmer. 480 00:42:27,510 --> 00:42:27,550 Yeah. 481 00:42:28,330 --> 00:42:28,990 Thank you. 482 00:42:29,190 --> 00:42:32,710 You know, I have to add a little sunshine on that one. 483 00:42:33,230 --> 00:42:39,650 But the flip side to me is that we then are highlighting all of the things in our community 484 00:42:39,650 --> 00:42:44,130 that need attention and focus and we're being good partners and saying, hello, look at 485 00:42:44,130 --> 00:42:49,530 this trash roads that we have here and look at the need for signage and look at this and it's 486 00:42:49,530 --> 00:42:53,430 a way that we can get some eyes and federal dollars potentially coming into this community. 487 00:42:53,430 --> 00:42:55,010 So I think it's a great thing. 488 00:42:55,430 --> 00:42:56,030 Happy to support it. 489 00:42:56,870 --> 00:42:57,730 Any other discussion? 490 00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:00,660 All right. 491 00:43:01,140 --> 00:43:02,260 Please call the roll. 492 00:43:05,230 --> 00:43:09,470 This is for voting on the safe streets and roads portion of the split. 493 00:43:11,870 --> 00:43:12,270 Palmer. 494 00:43:12,790 --> 00:43:12,910 Yes. 495 00:43:13,450 --> 00:43:13,710 Thompson. 496 00:43:14,170 --> 00:43:14,330 No. 497 00:43:15,530 --> 00:43:16,050 Arnson. 498 00:43:16,590 --> 00:43:16,730 No. 499 00:43:17,590 --> 00:43:18,110 Bowling. 500 00:43:19,750 --> 00:43:20,270 Yes. 501 00:43:20,930 --> 00:43:21,290 Matt Sun. 502 00:43:21,410 --> 00:43:21,550 Yes. 503 00:43:22,370 --> 00:43:22,750 Or test. 504 00:43:23,510 --> 00:43:23,750 Yes. 505 00:43:24,310 --> 00:43:25,670 For yes to know your honor. 506 00:43:25,870 --> 00:43:26,050 All right. 507 00:43:26,050 --> 00:43:31,950 That takes us to ordinance 21-20, amending the FY 20-27 burrow budget by adding a supplemental 508 00:43:31,950 --> 00:43:35,670 appropriation for expenses related to the former school district facilities. 509 00:43:36,230 --> 00:43:41,250 The assembly considered ordinance 21-20 at its meeting on July 6, 20-26, and set up for 510 00:43:41,250 --> 00:43:46,070 a public hearing on July 20, 20-26. The public hearing will be conducted in the following format. 511 00:43:46,250 --> 00:43:50,650 Brief staff presentation followed by public testimony followed by brief staff summary. 512 00:43:52,170 --> 00:43:53,210 Good evening, Mr. Smith. 513 00:43:54,610 --> 00:43:57,530 Good evening, Senator Smith, interim finance director. 514 00:43:59,550 --> 00:44:04,330 So last meeting, there was a comment that it was unclear about the school district. 515 00:44:04,490 --> 00:44:09,650 So I made a change the title to refer to former school district facilities. 516 00:44:09,670 --> 00:44:10,410 That's the only change. 517 00:44:10,530 --> 00:44:11,830 It did not change anything in the ordinance. 518 00:44:11,930 --> 00:44:13,790 I didn't have to make a substitute or anything. 519 00:44:14,630 --> 00:44:21,650 As we briefly discussed at the last meeting, our expectation is that we will end up owning 520 00:44:21,650 --> 00:44:24,370 these buildings for some time, a number of years. 521 00:44:26,170 --> 00:44:30,530 And I think it's well described, there's a paragraph here that says preliminary walks 522 00:44:30,530 --> 00:44:35,990 use of these facilities, evidence to building climate control systems, boilers, HVAC, etc., 523 00:44:35,990 --> 00:44:40,690 that are larger in scale and scope to those currently maintained by Burrow Maintenance personnel. 524 00:44:40,690 --> 00:44:48,670 And then the public works director goes on to say that while existing staff are capable of learning to maintain the systems, 525 00:44:49,170 --> 00:44:56,630 once you add those facilities to everything that they are already maintaining, it just exceeds the current capacity of what they can handle. 526 00:44:56,990 --> 00:44:59,810 And then at the last meeting I believe there was a question about 527 00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:28,780 You know, what happens if the buildings go away or if they go away in two to three years? So we anticipate during that time frame that there's going to be some turnover and probably at this skill level or similar. So the worst case scenario might be that we would have to let go of someone, but just based on what we can see as far as future retirements and whatnot, it's unlikely. Mr. Thompson? 528 00:45:28,780 --> 00:45:35,980 Well, quick question, are we planning on hiring someone who's already performing similar duties to that? 529 00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:42,060 It does say while existing staff are capable of learning, it's always good to pick up somebody that's already doing that. 530 00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:46,200 That is our goal to find somebody who is familiar with these systems or 531 00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:47,940 a some past experience with them. 532 00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:56,280 I think the biggest issue for our department is, August 15th, we're in these buildings, we have to maintain these systems. 533 00:45:56,280 --> 00:46:04,820 and if anything, it would buy us some time to learn the systems, come up with maintenance plans that our current staff can follow. 534 00:46:07,650 --> 00:46:08,390 Any other questions? 535 00:46:09,210 --> 00:46:09,230 No? 536 00:46:10,070 --> 00:46:11,930 I'd like to make just one additional point. 537 00:46:12,190 --> 00:46:18,330 So the ordinance budgets this split 50-50 across the two facilities. 538 00:46:18,870 --> 00:46:23,930 Public Works staff actually record their actual time based on where they're working. 539 00:46:24,210 --> 00:46:27,770 So after a year or so, we'd have actual cost of what it's taking to maintain. 540 00:46:27,770 --> 00:46:30,570 point Higgins versus Fallon Mountain. Thank you. 541 00:46:30,890 --> 00:46:31,830 Yep, Ms. Arnson. 542 00:46:32,230 --> 00:46:36,490 I had one question. Is there a plan to provide a vehicle? 543 00:46:36,930 --> 00:46:42,290 Like, is this job going to have a vehicle or are they going to have to use their own personal vehicle? 544 00:46:42,710 --> 00:46:43,170 I'm just curious. 545 00:46:45,510 --> 00:46:47,430 Yep, we would provide a vehicle. 546 00:46:47,570 --> 00:46:51,250 The bus, not sure how many are available for another staff person. 547 00:46:51,650 --> 00:46:53,690 I appreciate that answer. Thank you very much. 548 00:46:56,220 --> 00:46:56,920 Any other questions? 549 00:46:59,290 --> 00:47:01,490 Okay, that takes us up public testimony. 550 00:47:02,090 --> 00:47:05,510 Public hearing is now open, is there any audience that would like to provide testimony? 551 00:47:06,630 --> 00:47:09,170 Nope, seeing and hearing none, the public hearing is now closed. 552 00:47:09,290 --> 00:47:12,290 That takes assembly motion, I'll entertain a motion from the assembly. 553 00:47:12,770 --> 00:47:13,130 Your honor. 554 00:47:13,530 --> 00:47:13,930 Mr. Arnson. 555 00:47:14,150 --> 00:47:28,310 I move to adopt ordinance 21-20, amending the FY2027 Burrow budget by adding $129,317 supplemental funding for a maintenance tech to position to maintain and operate the North Point Higgins and 556 00:47:28,310 --> 00:47:30,010 And Fawn Mountain, former school buildings. 557 00:47:30,310 --> 00:47:30,550 Second. 558 00:47:31,230 --> 00:47:34,130 Moved by Arsene Seconded by Mattson, discussion. 559 00:47:38,470 --> 00:47:39,270 Please call the roll. 560 00:47:40,510 --> 00:47:41,990 Mattson, yes, Palmer. 561 00:47:42,370 --> 00:47:44,430 Yes, Arnson, yes, or Tess? 562 00:47:44,610 --> 00:47:44,770 Yes. 563 00:47:45,050 --> 00:47:45,350 Thompson. 564 00:47:47,090 --> 00:47:47,690 Aye. 565 00:47:48,430 --> 00:47:49,030 Bowling. 566 00:47:50,610 --> 00:47:52,590 Yes, six yes, Your Honor. 567 00:47:54,210 --> 00:47:57,390 Okay, that takes us to the acceptance of claims, 568 00:47:57,750 --> 00:48:00,550 the presentation of claims, as I'll get assembly emotion. 569 00:48:00,870 --> 00:48:01,210 Your Honor. 570 00:48:01,210 --> 00:48:02,450 Ms. Matson. 571 00:48:02,630 --> 00:48:08,110 I move to approve the presented claims totaling $3,503,180.67. 572 00:48:08,630 --> 00:48:08,790 Second. 573 00:48:09,470 --> 00:48:10,870 Move by a second by Palmer. 574 00:48:11,110 --> 00:48:11,670 Is there a discussion? 575 00:48:13,170 --> 00:48:14,810 All right, please call the rule. 576 00:48:15,230 --> 00:48:15,710 Ortez. 577 00:48:16,510 --> 00:48:16,990 Yes. 578 00:48:17,330 --> 00:48:17,670 Thompson. 579 00:48:17,950 --> 00:48:18,110 Hi. 580 00:48:18,390 --> 00:48:18,690 Arnson. 581 00:48:18,910 --> 00:48:19,490 Yes, Matson. 582 00:48:19,870 --> 00:48:19,990 Yes. 583 00:48:20,250 --> 00:48:20,490 Palmer. 584 00:48:20,730 --> 00:48:20,850 Yes. 585 00:48:21,090 --> 00:48:21,370 Bowling. 586 00:48:25,240 --> 00:48:26,100 Was that a yes? 587 00:48:28,900 --> 00:48:29,600 Thank you. 588 00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:31,080 Six yes, Your Honor. 589 00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:31,940 All right. 590 00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:33,460 That takes us to the consent calendar. 591 00:48:33,460 --> 00:48:39,580 that's Approval 7A, Approval of Assembly Meeting Minutes, that's July 6, 2026, regular meeting. 592 00:48:40,240 --> 00:48:46,780 7B, Resolution 3193, finding the acquisition of real property located at 12-01, 593 00:48:47,260 --> 00:48:58,620 Copper Ridge Lane, parcel number 0-113-1400-4600, to be in the borough's best interest pursuant to KGBC 11.45.0110. 594 00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:06,860 7C Resolution 3195, ratifying the Bureau Manager's submission of an application for an acceptance 595 00:49:06,860 --> 00:49:12,100 of Federal Physical Year 2026 State Homeland Security Program Grant Funds from the Alaska 596 00:49:12,100 --> 00:49:17,720 Division of Homeland Security and Emergency Management, 7D, Award of a SoulSource Contract 597 00:49:17,720 --> 00:49:23,320 to Southeast Diesel and Electric to Perform an Overhaul on the number two main engine on 598 00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:27,200 On the MV, Ken Eichner-2, not to exceed 155,000. 599 00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:34,320 7E, award of contract for the 2026 Safe Streets and Roads for all SS for a comprehensive 600 00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:40,380 safety action plan to respect company LLC in the amount of $171,780. 601 00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:47,520 7F, contract number, amendment number one in the amount of 22,983 to the Seltongus Water 602 00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:53,020 Phase V. Ravenwood Booster Station and storage tank design contract with R&M engineering. 603 00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:59,920 7G approval of change order number 3 in the amount of 118,188 604 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:21,540 College to Copperridge, LLC for the Roe Mine and Roosevelt Water Main Replacement Project and 7-H confirmation of appointments to the Luring Service Area Board. Do you any members wish to pull an item from the consent calendar? Mr. Thompson? Like to pull 7-E? 7-E, echo? Any others? Yeah, could it be Bravo? 7-B? Any others? 605 00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:30,240 All right. I'll entertain a motion from the assembly. Your Honor. Ms. Madison? I move to approve the consent calendar as amended. 606 00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:39,640 Let's move by Matt sent seconded by Thompson discussion on the amended consent calendar. 607 00:50:40,180 --> 00:50:42,940 All right no discussion please call the roll. 608 00:50:46,540 --> 00:50:47,100 Thompson. 609 00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:47,520 Aye. 610 00:50:48,180 --> 00:50:48,420 Palmer. 611 00:50:48,780 --> 00:50:49,140 Yes. 612 00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:49,840 Or test. 613 00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:50,400 Yes. 614 00:50:50,780 --> 00:50:51,140 Matt sent. 615 00:50:51,260 --> 00:50:51,400 Yes. 616 00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:52,260 Bowling. 617 00:50:55,580 --> 00:50:56,140 Ortson. 618 00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:56,520 Yes. 619 00:50:56,940 --> 00:50:57,140 Six. 620 00:50:57,240 --> 00:50:57,360 Yes. 621 00:50:57,360 --> 00:51:03,520 All right, that takes us to unfinished business, the transferred consent calendar. 622 00:51:03,820 --> 00:51:17,780 We will go to 7 for B, Resolution 3193, finding the acquisition of real property located at 1201 copper ridge lane to be in the borough's best interest pursuant to the KGB 1145010. 623 00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:21,040 And I'll entertain a motion from the assembly, Mr. Thompson. 624 00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:27,080 I moved to adopt resolution 393, finding the acquisition of real property located at 1201 copper ridge lane 625 00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:34,800 parcel number 011314004600 to be in the boroughs best interest pursuant to KGBC 626 00:51:35,140 --> 00:51:37,300 11.45.0010. 627 00:51:37,300 --> 00:51:37,580 Second. 628 00:51:38,100 --> 00:51:41,940 Move by Thompson. Seconded by Mattson. Is there a discussion? Mr. Arnson? 629 00:51:42,440 --> 00:51:50,500 Yeah, thank you. I just pulled this because I was like to see what staff has to say. I think I talk a little bit about the fiscal impact of this purchase 630 00:51:52,020 --> 00:51:57,220 The TBD on the expenditure required and the NA on the appropriation required. 631 00:51:57,520 --> 00:51:59,340 I see the transit director is here. 632 00:51:59,420 --> 00:52:02,560 Is that better for the finance department, both? 633 00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:13,900 If you're referring to the $280,000 purchase price, that's already budgeted, and that isn't a book, I know for sure. 634 00:52:14,260 --> 00:52:16,140 So that's taken care of. 635 00:52:19,060 --> 00:52:31,380 And kind of a trans-director, as far as the other items on there, for example, the Relocation Act requirements, 636 00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:35,140 federal government requirements, things like those, we're still sorting those out. 637 00:52:35,180 --> 00:52:39,720 We don't expect those numbers to be too large, but there's a bunch of formulas and approvals. 638 00:52:39,900 --> 00:52:47,800 And after we make the offer, both to the property owner, but then also we have to make a separate offer to meet all those. 639 00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:53,840 federal requirements to the folks that need to be relocated will have a better understanding 640 00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:59,840 but there are caps to those numbers so it's not, we don't expect to be anything that 641 00:53:00,460 --> 00:53:02,260 is too crazy. 642 00:53:02,780 --> 00:53:03,840 So follow up, Your Honor. 643 00:53:03,900 --> 00:53:04,020 Yep. 644 00:53:04,180 --> 00:53:04,300 Go ahead. 645 00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:10,180 That's great information and would that then require staff to come back for additional appropriations? 646 00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:18,860 We don't expect it to exceed the amount that we already have budgeted in there at this point. 647 00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:32,100 We do probably expect that once we have a plan in place and we fully understand the needs of the building will probably be coming back to do some improvements. 648 00:53:32,100 --> 00:53:40,280 And so we initially have some money just to make some ADA accessible improvements to the building and things like that. 649 00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:58,320 But we'll definitely plan on developing a more comprehensive plan, and we'll certainly be going after, we'll come to you first of course, but then we would be for approval of the plan, but then we'd be going after grants and as usual, we'd be trying to find a way to make sure that we're not impacting the local taxpayer. 650 00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:01,920 fair. Thank you, Ms. Palmer. 651 00:54:02,700 --> 00:54:05,600 I just wanted to say, well done, gobbling up these properties. 652 00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:09,640 I thought this one was done a long time ago, but I know we did the one across the street 653 00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:10,360 at one point. 654 00:54:10,620 --> 00:54:13,540 And this has been a dream, too, to grab it. 655 00:54:13,780 --> 00:54:18,020 So yeah, I'm glad you're able to put your award-winning transit. 656 00:54:18,580 --> 00:54:25,500 Yeah, we'll be nice to have a place to park and to sit, as you know, many of you have come 657 00:54:25,500 --> 00:54:30,780 visited, we do a lot of hot salt warping as far as chairs and seats, and so it's been 658 00:54:30,780 --> 00:54:36,260 very tight for a lot of years, so this will make a huge difference for all of our staff. 659 00:54:36,660 --> 00:54:40,700 And it'll be nice to not be renting and owning, it will be great too. 660 00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:44,020 All right, any other discussion? 661 00:54:46,330 --> 00:54:46,850 Thank you. 662 00:54:47,510 --> 00:54:47,790 Thank you. 663 00:54:48,170 --> 00:54:48,670 Thanks so much. 664 00:54:50,670 --> 00:54:51,370 All right, discussion. 665 00:54:51,630 --> 00:54:52,070 Any other discussion? 666 00:54:53,370 --> 00:54:54,130 All right. 667 00:54:54,310 --> 00:54:54,770 Please call the roll. 668 00:54:54,770 --> 00:54:56,010 Yes. 669 00:54:56,390 --> 00:54:57,450 Palmer, yes. 670 00:54:57,870 --> 00:54:58,550 Yeah. 671 00:55:00,050 --> 00:55:05,030 It was moved by you, and seconded by you. Okay, I just want to talk, I was thinking about money. 672 00:55:08,720 --> 00:55:11,360 Here's a nice one, though, 81,000. 673 00:55:14,060 --> 00:55:17,280 Please call the roll. So far, we have 674 00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:25,040 Matson, yes, Palmer, yes, Thompson. Aye. Or Tess. Yes. Bowling. Yes, 675 00:55:25,780 --> 00:55:30,400 Arnton, yes, six, yes, Your Honor. Well, that takes the seven e-order contract for 676 00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:36,500 There are 2026 safe streets and roads for all S-S4A, comprehensive study action plan to respect 677 00:55:36,500 --> 00:55:41,720 company LLC in the amount of $177,780 on entertaining motion from the assembly. 678 00:55:41,980 --> 00:55:42,340 Here on it. 679 00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:43,140 Ms. Matzen. 680 00:55:43,260 --> 00:55:48,040 I moved to award the contract for the 2026 safe streets and roads for all S-S4A, comprehensive 681 00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:53,320 safety action plan to respect company LLC in the amount of $171,780. 682 00:55:54,240 --> 00:55:54,800 Second. 683 00:55:55,220 --> 00:55:55,880 Moved by Matzen. 684 00:55:55,980 --> 00:55:56,500 Second by Palmer. 685 00:55:57,100 --> 00:55:58,520 Mr. Thompson. 686 00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:03,620 discussion. Just want to vote on it separately. Fair enough. Any other discussion? 687 00:56:04,940 --> 00:56:08,840 All right. Seeing you here, none. Please call the roll. Thompson. No. 688 00:56:09,660 --> 00:56:14,820 Palmer. Yes. Or test. Yes. Matt sent. Yes. Bowling. 689 00:56:16,890 --> 00:56:17,290 Yes. 690 00:56:17,830 --> 00:56:26,250 Aren't sent. No. For yes to know your honor. Okay. That takes us to nine. There is no new 691 00:56:26,250 --> 00:56:28,030 new business, so that takes us to 10. 692 00:56:28,370 --> 00:56:29,110 Manager's report. 693 00:56:29,490 --> 00:56:30,950 Thank you very much, Mayor and Assembly. 694 00:56:32,150 --> 00:56:34,030 The report has quite a bit of infrastructure. 695 00:56:35,310 --> 00:56:41,170 Things, everything from airport, basic infrastructure, 696 00:56:41,710 --> 00:56:46,830 striping and parking lots, projects that have been in the works that are moving along or finishing. 697 00:56:48,990 --> 00:56:54,830 So what I want to talk about, I guess is the icing on the cake. 698 00:56:54,830 --> 00:56:59,050 things that we get when we finish. We had, and I'm going to let the mayor really speak to the 699 00:56:59,050 --> 00:57:04,170 Alder Park dedication because he was there for that. And we also, there was a request for 700 00:57:05,550 --> 00:57:12,730 mountain point requests about changing the zoning. How we use the areas south on the south end of 701 00:57:12,730 --> 00:57:19,390 the island on Togas. And in there, our staff is recommended, we recommend that we go to the 19th 702 00:57:19,390 --> 00:57:23,850 of October when we look at the rotary park. We do all of it at once. In the meantime, 703 00:57:23,850 --> 00:57:32,710 I know no no lands are going to be for sale in that that we're talking about here administratively we can do that we put those on pause in case anybody comes up no one's asking. 704 00:57:33,030 --> 00:57:37,550 But we wanted the community to go and look at this to see that we got the petition. 705 00:57:37,870 --> 00:57:44,570 We're taking the direction from the assembly and we're pulling that together so we can we come together in October with a number of items. 706 00:57:45,130 --> 00:57:50,190 We'll tell you there's also work on the rotary park survey that's all going forward. 707 00:57:50,190 --> 00:57:54,290 you'll see more about that in the upcoming managers report as that goes forward. 708 00:57:56,910 --> 00:58:01,170 But I'm very pleased to see how the ball fields are looking, it's already finally paved. 709 00:58:01,650 --> 00:58:02,930 Now we're getting the striping in. 710 00:58:03,550 --> 00:58:06,790 We pulled out another playground, and that was over at Valley Park. 711 00:58:07,190 --> 00:58:08,230 Now there's two playgrounds there. 712 00:58:08,770 --> 00:58:12,810 The ones in the park area has been pulled in, that was well overdue. 713 00:58:13,270 --> 00:58:16,470 And all of that is the results of the park master plan. 714 00:58:16,470 --> 00:58:18,050 And we plan for it. 715 00:58:18,130 --> 00:58:20,770 We put the money aside, it's coming out of the recreation fees. 716 00:58:24,910 --> 00:58:26,610 There's also a recognition of service. 717 00:58:26,910 --> 00:58:29,450 We had Jenny Fox is leaving us. 718 00:58:29,550 --> 00:58:31,310 She used to be, I was a deputy clerk. 719 00:58:31,330 --> 00:58:34,710 She worked at the airport, and now she's headed off for other work. 720 00:58:35,370 --> 00:58:38,830 And also we have one of our airport custodians, 721 00:58:39,490 --> 00:58:41,470 and he'll be also moving on. 722 00:58:42,410 --> 00:58:44,830 What I'd like to spend a moment on, 723 00:58:44,930 --> 00:58:46,290 now I'm going to ask our deputy's feedback, 724 00:58:52,710 --> 00:58:57,670 I thought we had something in the manager's report, I know that director Miller wrote something 725 00:58:57,670 --> 00:59:03,370 up and then I didn't see it in there but I just wanted to assure you that she is planning 726 00:59:03,370 --> 00:59:09,710 on operating recreational programs out at Fawn Mountain to facilitate the dribbler's 727 00:59:09,710 --> 00:59:15,050 lead indoor soccer. Essentially groups that have a single point of contact and a single payer 728 00:59:15,050 --> 00:59:19,090 here so that communication with the group is very easy since it's a more remote facility. 729 00:59:19,810 --> 00:59:25,250 During the budget process, you approved converting a lifeguard position to a custodian position, 730 00:59:25,390 --> 00:59:31,750 which turns out to be very useful here, because we do, we will require the user groups to do 731 00:59:31,750 --> 00:59:35,750 a certain amount of cleaning, you know, sweep the gym floors, but then we'll need to take 732 00:59:35,750 --> 00:59:37,590 care of bathrooms out there. 733 00:59:38,150 --> 00:59:43,710 At this point, we are not planning on operating any programs out at Point Higgins, but they're 734 00:59:43,710 --> 00:59:50,250 We're already working with the two leagues that I mentioned and I would like to give 735 00:59:50,250 --> 00:59:54,590 a special shout out to the Parks and Recreation Leadership Team over there. 736 00:59:55,070 --> 00:59:59,070 So this is the second time this year we've come to them with something that could be considered 737 00:59:59,070 --> 00:59:59,530 a problem. 738 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:25,100 What are we going to do? The first one was when we decided that we weren't sure we could hold summer camp inside Valley Park, and now how are we going to let these teams continue to use Fawn Mountain? And in both cases, this group says, oh, this is an opportunity. How can we make this work? What can we do better? And their enthusiasm for this kind of thing is just really, really impressive, and they will do a very nice job. 739 01:00:26,220 --> 01:00:30,260 We have a resolution that addresses fees for gymnasiums. 740 01:00:30,340 --> 01:00:32,780 It does not specifically say where the gymnasiums are located. 741 01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:36,440 So the fees will be exactly what we would charge if they were over at the rexer. 742 01:00:36,900 --> 01:00:40,880 And we have set up accounting codes so that we can keep track of what these recreational 743 01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:41,980 programs out there cost. 744 01:00:42,740 --> 01:00:48,660 So that in the future you have some idea of the decisions or the cost of the decisions 745 01:00:48,660 --> 01:00:49,280 that we're making. 746 01:00:50,700 --> 01:01:16,920 And I think with Wendy and also with Senator working with these groups, I'll actually express my appreciation for those groups being very flexible because they were in two sites not going to go one site, but they said yes, we can get this done and I think they also see the dilemmas that we're in trying to make this work, and they've been very responsive, so I want to thank the two leagues also, this has been a good partnership. 747 01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:19,760 Mr. Palmer, the Mr. House. 748 01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:27,040 Thank you. Since we're on the topic of the buildings, can you speak to the Valley Park School safety? 749 01:01:27,820 --> 01:01:29,000 And what update we have? 750 01:01:36,660 --> 01:01:47,680 We're just getting our final draft plan back and there's no expectation on our part that there'll be any findings that are substantially different than what was in the plan that was presented to the assembly. 751 01:01:48,240 --> 01:01:49,780 Okay, thank you. 752 01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:50,560 Yeah. 753 01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:58,520 Separate topic, we were told in July, we would get started on the parking lots at South 754 01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:01,660 Point Higgins Beach, so can you update us on where those stand? 755 01:02:03,820 --> 01:02:09,080 That should be going out to bid shortly, we're just finalizing a few details on the design 756 01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:14,500 we're meeting with Arnhem Engineering tomorrow to go over those, so should be coming soon. 757 01:02:15,000 --> 01:02:15,320 Thank you. 758 01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:19,680 Mr. Thompson, okay now I have three questions. 759 01:02:20,520 --> 01:02:22,060 First one related to Valley Park. 760 01:02:22,340 --> 01:02:27,120 Are we going to be able to have school in Valley Park in August? 761 01:02:28,540 --> 01:02:29,700 All that we've been answering. 762 01:02:30,500 --> 01:02:35,040 With the information we have now, we've indicate school should occur there. 763 01:02:35,780 --> 01:02:42,700 But the additional evaluation during this school year, we're going to determine what the future should be. 764 01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:45,840 And that will come back to the assembly about what will happen with Valley Park. 765 01:02:45,840 --> 01:02:55,360 particularly if you have to do a major renovation, and whether or not we want to renovate to a school or to something else because you have two schools empty but we always get back to and we have two schools empty. 766 01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:58,180 Okay, but there's no emergency for existing charter schools. 767 01:02:58,420 --> 01:03:00,480 We believe we've addressed the emergency. 768 01:03:00,900 --> 01:03:12,300 There may be some minor things that will need to do this year possibly some signings, some exit signs that are recoverable in the words that we change the building around. 769 01:03:12,300 --> 01:03:19,260 We use a sign some other way, but our intent is to have the charter schools in for this next school year. 770 01:03:19,620 --> 01:03:23,800 Okay. Second question, is there anything in our, okay, go ahead. 771 01:03:23,860 --> 01:03:31,920 If I can add just one more piece of information, you authorized the study on this building earlier this year. 772 01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:35,780 And when the school district got to the point that they were trying to make decisions about which schools to close, 773 01:03:35,780 --> 01:03:50,740 We only did phase one of that study, which was just the ADA accessibility issues, and then now knowing that they want to be in that building if they can, so then now we've released phase two of that study. 774 01:03:51,840 --> 01:04:03,540 My second question is, with regards to mountain point, is there any reason why the folks out in that neighborhood cannot utilize those properties for recreational purposes? 775 01:04:03,540 --> 01:04:14,900 This plan and this development of a park is going to take literally years to unfold just in terms of the planning and the capital expenditures and whatnot. 776 01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:25,500 And we saw that with South Point Higgins Beach, the folks out there were using the beach for many, many years and came to us and said, hey, there's an opportunity to buy this and develop into a park where we want you to do that. 777 01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:26,500 And it took some time. 778 01:04:29,340 --> 01:04:33,620 are being used by people. I go out there, and particularly the one at the lift station. 779 01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:39,000 That's a great site, and I've commented for years about, well, we've got to build a deck out here somehow 780 01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:44,660 to get some people to fish right off the end. But yes, it's for our property. 781 01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:51,860 Our challenges have been people who have been more liberal in that interpretation of use, like parking their boats there, 782 01:04:51,860 --> 01:04:54,440 and we have to remind them periodically, and they do move them, 783 01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:57,960 and then they migrate back, and we do this periodically. 784 01:04:58,260 --> 01:04:58,960 I couldn't force them this. 785 01:04:58,960 --> 01:04:59,640 Oh 786 01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:26,880 Turned by gentle, and then we get them move their cars and their trucks, and they go back onto their properties. It's nature. We get it. But as we develop these, it'll be, we think the development of how we do these will curtail that. It's like any human behavior that you see on the DO2 right away. It's people parking their boats forever. It just happens. But yes, they can use the properties. 787 01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:50,080 Okay. Finally, with regards to using the Fund Mountain Facility for Recreation, are we anticipating any coordination with our Transit Department to perhaps provide some reasonable, he's not here, you know, to provide some transportation for those recreational events because there's some, you know, it's a little ways out the road and there's some people that might have some transportation challenges. 788 01:05:50,080 --> 01:06:01,820 I will discuss that with him tomorrow, and they're always very accommodating if they can manage to work stuff in without violating any of their grant requirements and whatnot. 789 01:06:02,980 --> 01:06:09,180 But they do seem to enjoy supporting the students and the kids in getting them to and from activities. 790 01:06:09,540 --> 01:06:16,000 So I would imagine that if they can, they will, but will follow up, was in a request to him and then let him report back to you. 791 01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:16,820 Thank you. 792 01:06:17,080 --> 01:06:17,520 Thank you. 793 01:06:18,140 --> 01:06:18,620 Thank you. 794 01:06:18,860 --> 01:06:19,420 Thank you. 795 01:06:19,420 --> 01:06:19,760 Thank you. 796 01:06:20,180 --> 01:06:23,960 There's since we have so many questions on public works tonight, I had two that I wanted 797 01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:26,160 to mention and bring up for the manager. 798 01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:34,280 One, and you probably don't have the answer today, but if I could get some response, there is 799 01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:41,380 a small curb that was put in in the parking lot at Walker Field at the baseball field adjacent 800 01:06:41,380 --> 01:06:49,500 into the driveway, the pull-in, where cars go, and it just seems really odd, and I watched 801 01:06:49,500 --> 01:06:53,940 somebody almost rip their bumper off because they didn't realize that it was there. 802 01:06:55,380 --> 01:07:00,320 And so I'm sure there's a point for it, but I just, I don't know if it could be painted 803 01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:03,720 yellow or something to make it stand out more. 804 01:07:03,820 --> 01:07:07,700 It just looked like a safety concern or so if I could just get some information as to what 805 01:07:08,900 --> 01:07:10,320 The purpose is for that. 806 01:07:12,280 --> 01:07:13,440 Mike, can you turn your mic on? 807 01:07:14,420 --> 01:07:16,140 Mike, turn your mic on, please. 808 01:07:16,460 --> 01:07:17,080 Thank you. 809 01:07:17,700 --> 01:07:18,060 Sorry. 810 01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:18,560 Thank you very much. 811 01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:21,520 I believe you mentioned it to our Acting Public Works Director. 812 01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:26,020 And we're going to look at that and see what it is and where it is and what it is. 813 01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:30,220 And sometimes things are, oh, we're not used to seeing that there. 814 01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:32,080 And yes, thank you very much. 815 01:07:32,100 --> 01:07:32,340 Thank you. 816 01:07:32,380 --> 01:07:32,880 I appreciate that. 817 01:07:32,980 --> 01:07:33,780 One other follow-up. 818 01:07:33,940 --> 01:07:35,860 And I'd ask about this last season, too. 819 01:07:36,420 --> 01:07:41,440 there's some, there's an area outside of Dudley Field where the above the tennis courts were the pool 820 01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:47,500 used to sit that is parking now, and there's some alder trees that have grown up and are quite tall now 821 01:07:47,500 --> 01:07:54,400 this season, and I know that that had been anticipated to be in the maintenance for the property. 822 01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:57,720 At least that's what I was told last year by the director and those trees are still there. 823 01:07:58,080 --> 01:08:05,040 Growing fully in the sunshine right now, and so I just was curious if that was on the maintenance schedule. 824 01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:06,420 Well, if I could get an update on that. 825 01:08:08,120 --> 01:08:10,460 Aaron Osby, acting Public Works Director. 826 01:08:10,900 --> 01:08:13,020 The answer is yes. 827 01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:19,740 We budget annually for emergency tree removal, hazard tree removal maintenance, 828 01:08:20,220 --> 01:08:23,640 and we have money that's allocated for that sort of work, so 829 01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:24,960 we will be pursuing it this year. 830 01:08:26,120 --> 01:08:27,660 Thank you, thank you to staff. 831 01:08:28,800 --> 01:08:30,560 And that's the extent of the report. 832 01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:33,300 If there are any other questions or information desired, please call us. 833 01:08:33,300 --> 01:08:38,680 All right. Thank you. That takes us to Mayor's Report. I've been going to the 834 01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:43,280 Sachsman canoe journey monthly meetings. The Sachsman canoe journey will be next 835 01:08:43,280 --> 01:08:49,020 year, next August. It's going to bring six to 8,000 people to Ketchikan strictly 836 01:08:49,020 --> 01:08:53,300 just the Sachsman. So that logistics is going to be a lot for all of our 837 01:08:53,300 --> 01:08:57,380 governments, the plan, potentially buses to bring people in and out. So we're 838 01:08:57,380 --> 01:09:01,320 starting that now. It's going to be a great economic opportunity for Ketchikan and 839 01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:06,060 It's about a week long roughly, so four days, maybe, four to five days. 840 01:09:06,180 --> 01:09:06,420 Anyways. 841 01:09:06,740 --> 01:09:08,060 What are we going to put 6000 people? 842 01:09:08,140 --> 01:09:10,260 They're all going to fit in Saxman and hotels. 843 01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:14,100 So there's a thought next August. 844 01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:16,900 So there'll be what, 1200 people in canoes. 845 01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:23,120 This, if I may, what was shared there with all I'm going to add to you is that these people 846 01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:27,540 come with camping gear and the Saxman is looking where they can camp if they're within their 847 01:09:27,540 --> 01:09:29,680 limits and that's what they'll be camping. 848 01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:31,920 I mean, they bring equipment with them on the canoes. 849 01:09:32,540 --> 01:09:34,460 So 100 canoes, what they're planning on. 850 01:09:34,460 --> 01:09:39,140 So this is where all this is, we've had the discussion about logistics and 851 01:09:39,140 --> 01:09:44,260 the city setting is the one who's hosting and we're trying to assist them where we can't. 852 01:09:44,340 --> 01:09:49,540 Yeah, through the mayor, maybe Fond Mountain property would be a good spot to partner with that. 853 01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:53,720 You really need to stay close to the canoes and the canoes are going to be at Sackman. 854 01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:59,200 Yeah, yeah, we had talked about Fond Mountain, but yeah, it's nice if there was a ferry terminal. 855 01:10:01,010 --> 01:10:30,710 If you guys are interested, we're going to, this is not just inclusive to me, we're just, anybody's allowed to be in this committee in all governments, because it's going to be all hands-on deck, including people volunteering at the event. So, yeah. So, I will give you more updates as we meet. Okay. And Elder Park was really great. We had one family there. It was pouring down rain. But it was great. It was in use. They came in rain gear. And yeah, we're excited for other parks. I think lunch tree is next. 856 01:10:30,710 --> 01:10:38,030 and the Valley Park playground, so we're making our way through our parks, so that's great. 857 01:10:38,830 --> 01:10:42,010 All right, committee reports, you guys meet, meet, any committees? 858 01:10:43,830 --> 01:10:48,290 Nope, all right, assembly member comments, let's miss Bowling sent, she's online. 859 01:10:51,650 --> 01:10:53,230 Thank you, but nothing tonight, Mayor. 860 01:10:53,590 --> 01:10:54,950 All right, thank you, Miss Madsen. 861 01:10:55,510 --> 01:10:56,050 Thank you. 862 01:10:56,770 --> 01:11:00,070 I echo the comments on Alder Park, it looks amazing. 863 01:11:00,070 --> 01:11:10,350 I am a fair weather event attender, so I did not go in the rain, but I did go the next day on a walk with kids, and they enjoyed it, and it was just beautiful. 864 01:11:11,230 --> 01:11:18,590 Incredibly well done, and it's fun to see the use of that space to preserve some of the empty grass space so people can still use it. 865 01:11:18,630 --> 01:11:26,910 I've seen dog training, and I know that a lot of people use that. I've seen birthday parties, but then also to have more specific play area for little kids that looks amazing. 866 01:11:26,910 --> 01:11:34,210 I did want to bring up something, and I'd like to request Forehand's direction to direct 867 01:11:34,210 --> 01:11:38,550 the Bureau manager and staff to work with the Ketchikan Agricultural Producers Association 868 01:11:38,550 --> 01:11:39,050 Kappa. 869 01:11:39,670 --> 01:11:45,710 As you know, the Bureau has supported Kappa, their local nonprofit that's working to support 870 01:11:45,710 --> 01:11:47,770 local food prosperity and security. 871 01:11:48,230 --> 01:11:51,710 In particular, they're looking at development of a food hub. 872 01:11:51,710 --> 01:11:58,130 And so right now, I'm asking for forehand support for supporting their application for 873 01:11:58,130 --> 01:12:03,010 federal economic development administration, EDA funding grants are open for the regional 874 01:12:03,010 --> 01:12:06,390 Food Hub project that's planned for the Sachsman seaport. 875 01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:13,430 The initial phase of that regional Food Hub project is establishing a fish processing capacity 876 01:12:13,430 --> 01:12:19,490 at the seaport, creating infrastructure that supports people that are not going to be using some 877 01:12:19,490 --> 01:12:25,830 of those big processors, but could be able to utilize the space for seafood value added 878 01:12:25,830 --> 01:12:30,290 processing, local food security, economic diversification, and then ideally that they'll 879 01:12:30,290 --> 01:12:33,610 be able to expand that into a fully operational food hub. 880 01:12:34,530 --> 01:12:40,050 But I'm looking for forehand's direction to allow and direct staff to work with Kappa 881 01:12:40,050 --> 01:12:41,670 to pursue that grant funding. 882 01:12:41,970 --> 01:12:46,210 Just one thing that clerk did say forehand's can only bring future items to the assembly 883 01:12:46,210 --> 01:12:46,590 agenda. 884 01:12:46,590 --> 01:12:51,590 If you can get a hold of cap of the send, do they need like a letter of support from the borrows that would they need? 885 01:12:52,370 --> 01:12:53,530 Good send it to them. 886 01:12:53,990 --> 01:12:55,150 Yeah, go ahead. 887 01:12:55,970 --> 01:13:03,630 Our economic development manager sits on that board and he's familiar with the project so it wouldn't take additional assembly action. 888 01:13:04,230 --> 01:13:04,250 Okay. 889 01:13:04,470 --> 01:13:05,910 It would have to come back. 890 01:13:06,310 --> 01:13:15,330 I believe the actual need is for the borough to apply for the grant on their behalf as it's available to municipalities. 891 01:13:15,870 --> 01:13:21,270 And it's the same kind of work we've done for, we've done it for wish, I believe we've done it for other organizations. 892 01:13:21,970 --> 01:13:26,890 We've done it multiple times trying to get the Saxman seaport and ferry terminal in working with DOT. 893 01:13:26,910 --> 01:13:29,530 So it's not an unusual approach for us. 894 01:13:29,630 --> 01:13:35,450 And so authorization to apply for an accept on behalf, instead of would have to come back in a future meeting. 895 01:13:35,570 --> 01:13:41,570 Do you want to come back next meeting or with your permission, Mr. Mayor? 896 01:13:41,570 --> 01:13:46,630 I'd like to let staff who knows more about the project determine what the right meeting is to bring it forward. 897 01:13:46,630 --> 01:13:49,650 If you give us the forehand's direction, they'll bring it at the right time. 898 01:13:50,190 --> 01:13:51,270 Okay. Is that okay? 899 01:13:51,950 --> 01:13:53,010 That would be wonderful. 900 01:13:53,750 --> 01:13:54,390 That's clarification. 901 01:13:54,390 --> 01:13:54,510 Yeah, good. 902 01:13:56,030 --> 01:14:03,450 So the four ends is four staff to bring back a future agenda item to support the cap of project. 903 01:14:04,210 --> 01:14:09,790 My goal would be that the staff would return to the assembly at the appropriate time with recommendations and the actions necessary for our approval. 904 01:14:24,930 --> 01:14:33,660 I just want to say bravo to the staff for your work and notification with the parks 905 01:14:33,660 --> 01:14:38,720 and recs department for making fun mountain of place that will be able to be used this 906 01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:45,760 year. I really appreciate that work by staff. I also want to say congratulations and very 907 01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:51,460 best wishes to Mr. Eric Blake, the new business manager for the school district and wishing 908 01:14:51,460 --> 01:14:59,720 both him and Superintendent Forebear much success this year. I also wanted to make a comment. 909 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:26,560 It was really great, again, this sunny hot and dusty weekend to see the rotary beach park parking lot completely full of vehicles, this individual vehicles. That was very nice. There's a lot of families down there enjoying the sunshine in the beach. I also wanted to make a note. This popped up in my feed this last week. If anyone is interested, the Trump accounts are now live. 910 01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:45,620 So if somebody has had a child since January 1st of 2025, they can go in, download the app and establish a Trump account that will give their child $1,000 and they have the ability to manage or they're the custodian of that account until the child is 18. 911 01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:49,420 And so if they want more information, they can go to Trumpaccounts.gov. 912 01:15:50,980 --> 01:15:55,100 And then I'm very excited about the Sachsman canoe journey. 913 01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:58,040 Thank you for bringing that again to our attention to the mayor. 914 01:16:00,500 --> 01:16:02,560 And yeah, lots of good work this week. 915 01:16:02,820 --> 01:16:04,180 So thank you all, enjoy the sunshine. 916 01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:06,440 Mr. Thompson. 917 01:16:07,100 --> 01:16:07,600 Thank you. 918 01:16:07,860 --> 01:16:10,420 I think this canoe project is really exciting. 919 01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:14,240 I've been hearing about it for several months, so I'm really excited that it's getting off the ground. 920 01:16:14,440 --> 01:16:18,080 I'm a little bit nervous that there's going to be 6,000 people for a week in town. 921 01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:20,580 on this going to be interesting at best, but it'll be fun. 922 01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:24,020 So, I'll be interested in hearing that as it goes along. 923 01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:27,560 Sunshine's out, my water tanks dwindling, but I'm okay with that. 924 01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:29,880 And just go out and enjoy it. 925 01:16:29,980 --> 01:16:31,280 Thanks to staff for all you do. 926 01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:33,480 I noticed that we're a little light this evening, 927 01:16:33,480 --> 01:16:37,120 because probably everybody's out, having fun, that's a good idea. 928 01:16:37,700 --> 01:16:38,180 Thank you, Your Honor. 929 01:16:39,060 --> 01:16:41,460 Thank you, Ms. Palmer. 930 01:16:42,420 --> 01:16:42,980 Thank you. 931 01:16:43,660 --> 01:16:47,600 I love the summer year because it's election season stirring, 932 01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:52,080 and people can file starting August 3rd through 25th. 933 01:16:52,500 --> 01:16:54,180 We have three seats open on the assembly, 934 01:16:54,700 --> 01:16:57,400 two seats on school board, and four seats open on the city. 935 01:16:57,580 --> 01:16:58,380 So it's a big year. 936 01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:02,820 But also if anybody's listening or wants to join us, 937 01:17:02,860 --> 01:17:04,740 I think it's one of the most remarkable communities 938 01:17:04,740 --> 01:17:08,300 to get to serve because when something horrible happens, 939 01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:10,100 the community just steps up and helps. 940 01:17:10,460 --> 01:17:14,160 And so it makes it really easy to sit up here in that vein. 941 01:17:14,340 --> 01:17:15,640 Because we know we have good people here 942 01:17:15,640 --> 01:17:20,640 that we're trying to just help the future of this island for. 943 01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:25,580 So I hope people will throw in their names in the hats and join us and 944 01:17:25,580 --> 01:17:29,000 we'll support all of those folks on whatever body they choose to sit on. 945 01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:30,480 So thank you. 946 01:17:30,680 --> 01:17:31,700 Thank you, Mr. Ortez. 947 01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:32,820 Well, thank you. 948 01:17:33,060 --> 01:17:39,080 I concur with the comments just made by Assemblymember Palmer concerning the upcoming election. 949 01:17:39,420 --> 01:17:43,720 I encourage people to serve in order for our system to work. 950 01:17:43,720 --> 01:18:00,480 People have to be willing to step up and answer, and it's something that, again, foundation of our community, the foundation of our state, foundation of our country, is in order for it to work. 951 01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:09,320 The democratic republic process to work, people got to step up and do their different things, start with voting, but then it goes a lot further than that in many cases. 952 01:18:09,320 --> 01:18:10,300 So I encourage people to do that. 953 01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:19,720 I would like to thank Ms. Smith for her update on funding outside the cap for certain activities. 954 01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:21,300 I received that email update. 955 01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:22,520 I'm sure the rest of you did as well. 956 01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:26,180 I'd like to hear more specifics about, 957 01:18:29,100 --> 01:18:31,160 I guess it was a little bit of a surprise to me when 958 01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:38,580 I spoke to Ms. Smith about that email that we don't plan to fund to the cap. 959 01:18:38,580 --> 01:18:45,540 I was always under the assumption that we were going to be funding to the campus this year, 960 01:18:45,940 --> 01:18:49,960 but it doesn't sound like we're going to do that, so I guess it would make funding outside the 961 01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:56,400 cap not really relevant, I guess. I just like to hear a little bit more about that, maybe at the 962 01:18:56,400 --> 01:19:01,580 next meeting, an update, and I guess with the school board with the new superintendent's report or 963 01:19:01,580 --> 01:19:06,340 superintendent being here, maybe we can just kind of lock all that in together, because I do know 964 01:19:06,340 --> 01:19:31,780 So that this upcoming year, things are going to be different for activities in a big way in terms of at least $300,000 not being there and certain activities of traveling to certain areas and things like that won't be happening unless somehow that $300,000 is there available and right now it's not there available with my understanding anyway with that said, that's all I got. 965 01:19:31,780 --> 01:19:32,320 Thanks. 966 01:19:32,480 --> 01:19:32,740 All right. 967 01:19:32,860 --> 01:19:33,460 Thank you. 968 01:19:34,340 --> 01:19:35,440 No executive session. 969 01:19:35,460 --> 01:19:36,680 So that takes us to adjournment. 970 01:19:36,800 --> 01:19:39,040 Is there any objections to adjourn? 971 01:19:39,460 --> 01:19:40,200 Seeing in here, none. 972 01:19:40,340 --> 01:19:42,340 We are adjourned at 6.44.