[0:12] when we get back
there's some reason why it's not up on
[0:17] that screen i think he's figuring that
out next
[0:25] i have paper copies of everything too so
i would probably
[0:30] yeah we'll get to them as we go through
the individual ones
[0:34] this as we go through them
[0:55] so for those of you who would agree with
midwestern
[0:58] i apologize for the delay um we
were informed that this meeting was um
[1:24] um
[1:35] so thank you everybody for joining us um
i would like to just quickly do some
[1:39] introductions
um we'll start with those who are
[1:42] physically present but then i also want
to
[1:45] be able to document who is attending
remotely
[1:48] so i'm melissa with human services i'm
the supervisor of the family and
[1:52] community services
unit one of the programs that i oversee
[1:56] is the transportation program
[2:04] i work for transportation and i'm doing
minutes
[2:08] jeff egyl bailly regional planning
commission
[2:12] uh chris garcia bailey original planning
commission
[2:15] from the pepsi county board cody
vanderbush for human services
[2:20] tracy november kiwani county emergency
management
[2:24] joanne lisandski kimani county board and
i'm also a driver
[2:28] dan ford luxembourg trustee
robert stearns county veterans service
[2:33] officer gene robinson that's the patient
driver
[2:37] or a bushy transportation coordinator
[2:42] just can't hear those people
can people who are joining us remotely
[2:48] uh
introduce themselves please
[2:53] good morning everyone this is pam busch
with the county of door
[3:00] wendy huddersfield
[3:16] um
[3:21] hi everybody i'm sorry to interrupt can
you hear me okay this is pam
[3:28] we can hear you okay i can barely hear
when you guys talk so i don't know
[3:35] if there's like a speaker you're passing
around or something but i have my volume
[3:40] totally on high and i can barely hear
anything except
[3:43] like distant voices
[4:00] i also cannot hear anything
[4:18] i'm speaking into the mic here at the
meeting can people hear me remotely or
[4:22] no
jeff i could hear that loud and clear
[4:25] that was perfect
okay thank you thank you
[4:39] candace can you introduce yourself
[4:44] i am candace hunterman and i'm with
eshore industries
[4:51] okay lynn were you able to document
everybody okay thank you
[4:58] okay again thank you everybody for
joining us um
[5:01] i am going to just start the meeting um
but this meeting is being held in
[5:05] conjunction
with the coordination assessment with
[5:08] the lake regional committee
um jeff do you want to just give a basic
[5:13] overview of
the process for today
[5:18] yeah basically what we're going to do
this plan gets developed every four
[5:22] years
and we've had some amendments in between
[5:24] two
basically the items that come out of
[5:27] this process we put together
kind of an action plan that shows uh
[5:32] items that
in five different areas of transfusion
[5:35] coordination that are done well and can
be done better
[5:38] we put together a list to that effect
and i will be passing out what we did
[5:42] four years ago
for reference purposes and
[5:46] that'll probably take the biggest part
of the meeting
[5:50] we've also developed an action plan
summary working with
[5:54] uh kiwani county's uh health and human
services staff
[5:58] and with uh eastshore industries
um we'll be passing that out and
[6:04] reviewing that and see if there are any
adjustments that need to be made to that
[6:08] and then uh finally there's a program of
projects that
[6:11] the county and eastshore industries
helped develop where
[6:15] they um they're primarily looking at
obtaining
[6:19] vehicles over the next five years and we
have a list of those
[6:24] remember this is a very fluid process
this plan will be submitted to wisdot
[6:30] in the near future once it's developed
and reviewed
[6:34] um however it is
very very fluid i think last time with
[6:40] kewanee county we went through four
amendments from 2016
[6:44] uh through last year
so um it's it's not set in stone just
[6:50] because it's approved today
um we come back to this group and uh
[6:54] propose um and have amendments whenever
the county or whatever each or
[6:57] industries or
any other entity that may be looking at
[7:00] uh section 5310 funds may be
desiring though so and want to make some
[7:06] changes to the program
so any questions
[7:14] okay all right since um we're holding
that meeting in conjunction with our
[7:19] um typical transportation coordinating
meeting
[7:22] um what i'm planning to do is just go
over some basic updates from the
[7:26] transportation program
um so that you can become aware of how
[7:30] essentially covid has been impacting
our transportation program so i'll start
[7:34] with that and then
we'll have jeff take over and guide us
[7:38] through
the coordination assessment process
[7:44] um so just i always um provide
some numbers to compare last year with
[7:50] sorry they interrupt
but i don't know who's speaking but i
[7:53] can't hear the person at all i just can
barely hear who's speaking
[8:04] all right it sounds like you can hear me
better now that's better
[8:08] okay so i'm just going to review the
numbers
[8:12] served by the transportation program
january through august comparing 2019
[8:16] numbers to 2020.
so as expected because of covid our
[8:20] numbers have drastically decreased
and the program had to shut down for a
[8:24] short time because
there was concern about how cobid was
[8:28] going to impact
our drivers many of which are vulnerable
[8:32] and then of course our consumers that we
serve and transport so for the volunteer
[8:37] driver
driver escort program in 2019
[8:40] for january through august we had
provided 1746 rides
[8:46] and in 2020 for those same months we're
at 913.
[8:51] the grant vans which transport
individuals
[8:55] who may need wheelchair transport but we
also
[8:58] transport individuals who don't have
mobility concerns in those bands as well
[9:03] so last year we were at 930 and this
year we're at 411.
[9:09] um for the ogoma bus which is running
monday
[9:13] had been running monday wednesday friday
um
[9:16] from 10 until 2. last year's numbers
were at 713 and this year's at 379
[9:23] and then the kiwani van which is
tagged as that the large old van that
[9:28] transports
several people it's our largest fan that
[9:33] can transport the most people last year
we had provided 359 rides
[9:38] and this year we're at 100 so in general
just summarizing we are at a negative
[9:45] 731 in comparison to last year
and of course the direct link is due to
[9:51] coven
and i wanted to just update you on how
[9:55] the program
um how everything played out with regard
[9:59] to kovid
so again initially the program was shut
[10:03] down
because of the concern of how it would
[10:06] impact the drivers and the consumers
when the county reopened our unit began
[10:11] to discuss
processes and procedures that needed to
[10:15] be in place in order to safely reopen
we consulted with public health to come
[10:20] up with guidelines
for transport for both the drivers and
[10:24] the riders
all of the volunteer drivers were
[10:27] trained on the new
covid precautions the drivers are
[10:32] provided with necessary ppe
and disinfectant supplies the drivers
[10:37] and
riders are screened for symptoms and
[10:39] exposure a couple days prior to the
scheduled ride
[10:42] and then the driver also does another
screening upon pickup
[10:46] we have implemented and strongly
encouraged staggered seating
[10:50] so with the driver in the front and one
passenger we're encouraging that they be
[10:54] diagonal in the vehicle
so that they are as far away as possible
[10:58] and
we're trying to just do one rider per
[11:01] trip um
the exception there of course would be
[11:04] if somebody needs an attendant
um and there's somebody in their family
[11:08] a family member is able to assist
during transport then um they are
[11:11] allowed to ride along
so many of our drivers were very
[11:17] reluctant
initially to resume driving and many
[11:21] still continue to be reluctant which is
understandable
[11:24] so we've had to really prioritize the
ride requests
[11:28] and so we followed guidelines our
handbook which indicates that we'll
[11:33] prioritize medical nutrition to get to
grocery store
[11:37] work and then everything else falls
after that
[11:41] we're trying to stick close to home
we're avoiding um out of county
[11:44] transports if at all possible
and just in summer everybody's been
[11:49] cooperating really well
both the drivers and the riders have
[11:53] been impressed with everybody's level of
cooperation
[11:56] and our ability to resume rise but just
done
[12:00] a much lower level does anybody have
questions about
[12:04] our covid response lori anything to add
that i missed
[12:10] um we've lost four drivers completely
for sure so i'm not sure if everybody
[12:16] could hear that but lori just said
four of our drivers um backed out
[12:20] completely due to coped so
they just were uncomfortable because of
[12:23] their vulnerabilities
anything else lori
[12:30] yep thank you for reminding me of that
so
[12:34] the algoma buffs have been running
monday wednesday friday
[12:37] we cut out mondays because the ride
levels were so low
[12:41] and that is a paid driver who is just
with that transport so
[12:45] when we're looking at the what's the
most cost effective
[12:49] and being stewards of taxpayer dollars
has seen that that was the best move
[12:53] there's full intention of bumping that
back up to the monday wednesday friday
[12:57] when
ride requests increase anything else
[13:02] okay just a couple other updates so we
have
[13:06] received approval for the 5310
grant request that we had submitted
[13:14] this isn't new news at our last
committee meeting we had talked about
[13:17] that in just the timeline so
we still do not have that vehicle it's
[13:22] expected that
probably um early in 2021 is when that
[13:27] vehicle will actually
be present and able for us to use
[13:33] and then the 8521 is the grant
application that we submit annually to
[13:39] secure funding to support our
transportation program so that grant
[13:43] application has been released
and we'll be working to get everything
[13:47] together over the next several weeks
the submission final date is december
[13:52] 14th
so we'll be looking to schedule our next
[13:55] committee meeting
prior to that and in conjunction with a
[14:00] public hearing to review that
application
[14:02] and get everything submitted on time
[14:06] then one other piece of sad news that i
wanted to share with you
[14:10] as committee members elizabeth wilson
who
[14:14] was one of our committee members in the
transportation program have passed away
[14:17] on august 26th
um she truly is one of the sweetest
[14:21] people i've ever met
and will certainly miss her enthusiasm
[14:26] so i do have a card for us to just sign
up on that around after for anybody who
[14:32] knew her will send it to her family
any other questions or comments for me
[14:41] okay okay over to you jeff
thanks melissa
[14:49] i'm going to start the county
coordination assessment exercise
[14:55] before we do though i wanted to pass out
we're talking about kind of our
[15:02] transportation inventory portions of our
coordinated transportation plan thanks
[15:13] right i saw you running this morning
and i'm not going to go through this in
[15:27] any level of detail but if anybody has
questions on this
[15:30] uh later on i will certainly um
uh be happy to make adjustments to this
[15:37] so we've written kind of three
background chapters of this plan already
[15:41] thank you
[15:44] we have kind of an introductory chapter
[15:48] it talks about the coordinated public
transit human services transportation
[15:52] plan requirement
[15:55] and i did share my screen for those who
are joining remotely hopefully you were
[15:59] able to
see this we will incorporate
[16:04] those who attended this meeting either
in person or virtually in the meeting
[16:07] record on
the page two of chapter one
[16:12] chapter two is a demographic analysis uh
where we discuss persons with
[16:17] disabilities and we talk about the 65
and older population
[16:22] in table three and then we talk about
median household income and low income
[16:26] households within the county as well
and then chapter three we talk about
[16:31] transportation providers in the county
and we talk about the county's various
[16:36] programs
and we uh we discuss east shore
[16:40] industries programs we talk about mtm
the um non-emergency medical
[16:46] transportation broker
few other programs american cancer
[16:51] society the
disabled american veterans uh
[16:55] kiwani county veterans service office
nursing homes
[16:58] then we have a list of private
transportation providers uh within the
[17:01] county that we're aware of
so um that's basically the
[17:07] um kind of the background um
information just kind of review it and
[17:13] if anybody has any
edits to that uh definitely let us know
[17:19] um coordinated public
transit plan the framework for action
[17:25] i'm pulling up the
portions of the action plan that we
[17:29] discussed last time we
met to develop the full plan in 2016.
[17:34] i have a handout on that as well
[17:59] while we're waiting on that to be passed
out i'm wondering if anybody has inputs
[18:04] on
the private transportation providers
[18:06] that are listed on page 8
does anybody know if um for example any
[18:11] of those are no longer in business
[18:34] so this is pam bush i can't i'm i'm
logged into a county meeting
[18:38] on my computer and phone on this one so
i don't see the page that you're all
[18:42] looking at
but there was a new provider called
[18:45] trueway transport
that started on september 7th and
[18:51] they travel in the multi-county areas
their wheelchair and stretcher
[18:57] accessible
so if you need that information to
[19:00] include into your
provider info melissa i can send that to
[19:04] you
yeah if you could go ahead and do that
[19:07] pam we'll also need their address and
phone number and the type of services
[19:10] they provide
absolutely i'll send what i know about
[19:14] them
okay thank you yep
[19:21] yeah whoever wants them chris is going
to pass around uh pens who
[19:25] for those who need them and also note
cards for anybody
[19:28] who wants to write things down for this
coordinated transportation exercise
[19:33] basically what we're going to do there's
kind of five sections that we're looking
[19:37] at
the first section is called making
[19:40] things happen by working together
this addresses issues related to
[19:44] coordination formal program goals and
objectives
[19:47] and most importantly the need to
articulate a vision for the provision of
[19:50] services to the elderly and disabled
in kiwanis county we look at what's done
[19:54] well and done better in all these five
sections turning to page 14 of the
[20:00] handout
taking stock of community needs and
[20:03] moving forward
[20:14] this addresses issues involving service
assessment and review and inventory of
[20:17] services provided which are essential in
identifying
[20:20] gaps needs and duplication of services
and then section three putting customers
[20:25] first this addresses the ease of
access to information about the
[20:28] transportation services provided in the
county
[20:31] at section four adapting funding for
greater mobility
[20:38] this addresses inform identification
about accounting procedures that create
[20:42] customer friendly payment systems while
maintaining consistent reporting
[20:46] and accounting procedures across
programs
[20:49] and then finally moving people
efficiently
[20:56] this addresses centralized managerial
systems to coordinate highly diverse
[20:59] multi-mobile service provision so if you
can take a
[21:03] a few minutes and review
what's done well and done better in each
[21:08] of these areas and then what we'll do
you can write notes in terms of anything
[21:13] you'd want to add in terms of what's
done
[21:15] well or can be done better and chris is
going to
[21:18] jot those down i think we'll go through
the lifts that we have here and see if
[21:22] we want to keep or delete anything
and
[21:29] and we'll decide that on the items that
are bulleted and then we'll go to any
[21:32] additions
if that's okay except is that
[21:36] uh fair enough okay
[21:41] so the first item we have there is uh
under section one making things happen
[21:46] by working together
items that are done well we had quite a
[21:49] list last time
i'm gonna turn back to that page
[21:59] under dunwell we had the kiwani county
transportation coordinating committee
[22:03] meets quarterly
um i know one month was there one
[22:07] quarter was skipped because of covid
probably
[22:10] but that's a rare exception it does a
good job discussing transportation
[22:14] coordination issues
is that uh do people agree that we
[22:18] should continue to include that bullet
yes yes okay
[22:25] so i'll put a check there we're
including it
[22:29] second bullet the kiwani county human
service department's family and
[22:33] community services unit
has done a good job of referring medical
[22:36] assistance or ma transportation request
to the
[22:39] statewide broker known as mtm at this
point
[22:48] i mean staff would probably know more
about
[22:51] you know whether that's occurring in
reality and things like that i'm
[22:54] assuming it is
certainly it's occurring um
[22:59] not new news to you jeff but certainly
you know there continues to be the
[23:03] frustration and working with mtm
and the struggles of consumers being
[23:07] able to actually access transportation
through mtm
[23:10] and this is not a kewane county issue
this is a statewide issue
[23:14] um but we do continue to make those
referrals and advocate for our consumers
[23:19] when they're struggling
to access that transportation
[23:30] okay thank you and look for those of you
who don't know and i'm sure you've
[23:34] talked about it at previous meetings but
it looks like the state wants to award
[23:38] the
broker contract to a different company
[23:42] now
but uh looks like there's going to be
[23:44] kind of a dog fight about that
i think ntn wants to keep the contract
[23:49] and they're appealing and things i think
it's a company called
[23:53] vivo or something like that or something
like that yeah so
[23:57] i think they're providing i think
they're helping um the green bay area
[24:00] with some of their transportation right
now
[24:03] so i think they have a little better
reputation than mtm but uh don't quote
[24:06] me on that but
we discussed it at our last
[24:09] transportation coordinating meeting
when i saw that news break um and from
[24:13] what i read
that appeal process can take an
[24:16] extensive amount of time like
over a year well yeah and there could be
[24:20] lawsuits and everything
so it sounds like we'll be stuck with
[24:23] mpm for some time could be it could be a
mess for a little bit
[24:26] but but hopefully everything works out
[24:31] i don't know if this is time to mention
it but i was just told by
[24:34] door county hospital when i had to go
pick up a client that was left there by
[24:39] mtm
that when clients request rides from mtm
[24:44] they have to request
two rides one to get there and one to
[24:47] get home
and that's why clients are being left
[24:51] that's what i was told
[24:56] which if you have kind of unforeseen
circumstances at a hospital or whatever
[25:00] if you don't know your dismissal time or
date or whatever
[25:04] because i think things could go longer
than you anticipate that becomes kind of
[25:08] a mess
exactly and i think there is an
[25:11] assumption
that when you're making a ride request
[25:14] that it will be
round trip so that's throwing some
[25:18] people off i believe
[25:24] anything else on the second bullet
the third bullet family and community
[25:30] services unit leadership and staff
is committed to providing cost efficient
[25:34] dependable and comprehensive service
[25:40] anybody disagree with that
[25:47] fourth bullet kiwani county has involved
public and private service agencies and
[25:51] providers as plans are developed and
decisions are made
[25:54] including collaboratively working on
various planning and programming issues
[26:00] that's kind of what we're doing here
today with all the private providers
[26:04] were invited
anything on this
[26:14] keep it
[26:19] okay next kiwani county is focused on
increasing service to populations
[26:24] outside the elderly
such as developmentally physically and
[26:27] behaviorally disabled populations
[26:32] yes i feel that one definitely needs to
stay that's
[26:36] one area that we've certainly made a
great deal of progress on
[26:40] okay next kiwani county has good
collaboration with family care managed
[26:45] care organizations including care
wisconsin and the lakeland care district
[26:53] just take care with fasten out because
there's no more care wisconsin
[26:59] straight care wisconsin
[27:03] they close it's just lakeland okay
um there's a second one but the name is
[27:08] escaping me jody do you know oh there's
iris
[27:11] i think oh inclusa
what's it called inclusa
[27:19] i n i-n-c-u-s-i-n l usa
[27:33] okay and it looks like you're looking it
up
[27:36] when you get something maybe you can
confirm that you certainly could add
[27:40] iris
as well
[27:46] okay
is iris an mco though or is it a more
[27:50] like a philosophy or a program
it's a an alternate program other than
[27:55] family care so it's family care or iris
okay yes it is included i-n-c-l-u-s-a
[28:06] okay thank you who are they out of
[28:12] green bay okay thanks
[28:22] next kiwani county has improved
transportation services beyond city and
[28:26] county boundaries
[28:29] yes and finally kiwani county has
established memoranda of understanding
[28:35] with assisted living facilities and
nursing homes so that their residents
[28:39] have adequate transportation
[28:43] we certainly continue to do this but
we're seeing a decrease in
[28:46] their um request to partner with us
they're trying to keep them safe in
[28:52] inside their facilities or outside of
covet even
[28:54] yeah they haven't really
participated in utilizing our vehicles
[29:03] you want to keep this thing or
[29:10] i don't know that there's anything we
can do to improve that so i'm not sure
[29:14] we would need to go anywhere else but
okay i don't have a strong opinion okay
[29:20] so just kind of leave it late then for
now or okay
[29:23] is there anything else that's been done
well that anybody want to add to the
[29:26] list
[29:33] my only thought is the bullet point that
focuses on increasing services to
[29:39] populations outside of the elderly if we
could include
[29:42] children oh within a bullet
yep okay maybe you don't have to do this
[29:52] um
we'll include it within that parenthesis
[30:00] like as well as children
[30:05] okay okay anything else
[30:16] okay under do better we have
looked at opportunities to increase
[30:23] transportation options within the
villages of luxembourg and casco and the
[30:26] city kiwani
[30:32] dan it's great that you're yeah here
this is something that our program has
[30:39] attempted to do
and jody helped me out with some of the
[30:43] history but within the village of
luxembourg and casco lori as well you
[30:46] know some of this history but
we haven't had success in getting much
[30:50] much traction with it
um lori do you have feedback on
[30:55] some of the reasons that you think
that's been a struggle or
[30:59] we've done several surveys and a lot of
people
[31:02] say they want to do it but when it
actually comes down to it
[31:06] they shy away i'm not sure
if it's because they're a freak ask for
[31:11] help
luxembourg has been we've been picking
[31:16] up people
more and bringing them to like the
[31:19] doctor or the ig
post office thing so they're being
[31:24] served
through the driver escort program it's
[31:26] just not a separate
um program like we have in algoma well
[31:31] there was um
and before i came to this committee
[31:37] i wasn't looking too much aware of it
but there is two
[31:43] vans in luxembourg um
what i believe is abby abbey vance
[31:50] yeah and another one i think is angels
of something
[31:55] of angels okay i see that those
two vans is uh moving around in
[32:00] luxembourg now lately
and i like i said i don't i didn't pay
[32:05] too much attention to it but now i can
focus more on it and ask them more
[32:09] questions and
you know and see what they do
[32:14] so arms and angels actually came aboard
last year uh near the end of the fiscal
[32:18] year
um they provide services for our
[32:20] veterans for dav
okay so the rides that need to go to the
[32:24] green bay clinic they do a lot of the
appointment rides for them once they're
[32:26] on the transportation list for the va
itself
[32:30] and then i'm guessing for abby vans
they're likely connected with
[32:33] family care like i said i
i don't know uh i wasn't paying too much
[32:40] attention to them but i know that they
they're around and i see them pass once
[32:44] in a while and
going to different places but i didn't
[32:47] know what their affiliation was
and luxembourg i know that you sure
[32:50] industries was picking up and infinity
care
[32:53] is there and and take some
disabled people around but i that's the
[33:00] first time i saw
these two vans and are you getting much
[33:04] feedback from
the residents within the village of a
[33:07] need for increased transportation
options
[33:09] not really i guess if you don't bring it
up they don't
[33:12] you know don't say anything and um it
wasn't ever brought up to any of our
[33:17] meetings
and um i guess where we're getting at
[33:21] with this is
certainly something we could do better
[33:25] so i think it's appropriate to remain on
there and maybe we could
[33:27] work together to potentially do more
outreach with
[33:31] your connection if possible to see if
there's something we can also
[33:35] i'm the head of the knights of columbus
too so
[33:38] and there's sort of different entities
that i can get out
[33:42] and let people know about this and like
i said
[33:45] until i sat down and listened to these
people talking i didn't know
[33:48] anything about it so thanks for your
feedback
[33:53] are the correct communities listed
obviously we've talked about luxembourg
[33:59] but what about casper and city kiwani
yeah okay
[34:04] the other item as listed do better is
better educate the public that county
[34:08] transportation services are available
[34:16] leave it on leave it on okay anything
else that can be done better
[34:28] going once going twice
[34:33] okay i'll throw it out there i mean
based off a dance comment maybe just
[34:37] um promoting it more making the
awareness since we've got those
[34:40] different services rumbling around in
the villages
[34:42] maybe we have people that aren't even
aware that this is available to them
[34:45] just increased outreach
how included is uh an item with that
[34:50] because it's kind of related
[34:55] with a second bullet point
yeah this is candy from east shore
[35:03] go ahead and i just there we've been
talking about this too there is some
[35:11] you know not sure how to address it but
like maybe
[35:14] after hours transportation and i'm not
sure what the county provides exactly
[35:20] but
um we know that we run into that
[35:22] sometimes with
individuals that maybe have a job and
[35:26] don't have transportation and don't have
a
[35:29] um someone to get them to and from work
outside
[35:33] of you know
[35:36] that nine to five or eight to four uh
world so that is something that i'm not
[35:42] sure if that needs to be added but
just curious if the county even has
[35:47] something like that
[35:50] we don't currently
[35:55] are you seeing some of your clients get
sent to
[35:58] places where they're beginning or ending
jobs after the traditional hours correct
[36:06] and in most cases i mean we can we have
resources and families
[36:12] are pretty good about it but every once
in a while you'll get somebody that just
[36:15] doesn't have that resource available to
them
[36:18] and it's trying to set that up to figure
out a way to make that happen so they
[36:22] can
get a job in the community
[36:29] okay anything else that can be done
better
[36:37] okay turning to section two
[36:48] taking stock of community needs and
moving forward
[36:52] the items that were listed last time is
being done well
[36:57] it says all public and private
transportation providers in kiwanis
[37:00] county and adjacent counties are
contacted when applying for section 5310
[37:04] fund section 5310
is the just the federal program that
[37:08] gets
vehicles to kiwanis county and also to
[37:13] non-profits like the shore industries
can also be used for mobility management
[37:18] programs in
pin counties as well
[37:24] anything on this
[37:28] we continue to adhere to that
requirement so i think that yeah makes
[37:32] it a good step
okay the second bullet that was listed
[37:37] as done well
the transportation program has
[37:40] effectively
identified transportation gaps needs and
[37:45] duplication of services
and then we put in parentheses here in
[37:48] collaboration with the social work
program at
[37:51] uw green bay um
i don't know if that was kind of a
[37:55] one-time thing or
if some of this continues no that's
[38:00] aging itself
i think that can be removed struck okay
[38:15] anything else that's done well that
you'd like to add
[38:18] in this area of service assessment
review and inventory of services
[38:24] identifying gaps needs and duplication
of services
[38:35] one thing that i'm thinking about is
lori always does a really nice job
[38:39] of helping us to
participate in the aging and disability
[38:45] resource fair
and due to covid that's not going to be
[38:49] happening this year but
i think i'm not sure if that falls into
[38:52] this section but it's a nice opportunity
to really connect
[39:00] with community members to go to get a
good grasp on
[39:04] transportation needs
[39:10] okay we've added that
anything else
[39:18] that is done well under this area
[39:22] at section 5310
for funds i don't know and maybe
[39:30] these people from luxembourg that do
this
[39:33] are aware of it or not but is there a
way to make them aware of it by
[39:38] contacting somebody or maybe
i don't know if they do or not maybe
[39:41] they know everything already you know so
the 5310 grant
[39:44] it's grant funding to support the
purchase of vehicles that's how we
[39:49] historically have access and utilize
that funding
[39:54] so the village is notified when we are
attempting
[39:57] or when we're applying to to um seek
additional funding um i'm not sure would
[40:03] there be a reason to
publicize that more jeff it'd have to be
[40:08] you know
we'd have to become aware of like the
[40:11] non-profit um
existence of a you know an entity within
[40:15] the village
say if you like um some communities like
[40:20] in the past way down manitowoc county
keel through like a senior club had a
[40:25] like a van or something that ran around
the build or the
[40:28] city down there provided service if you
guys went into something like that you
[40:32] might be eligible for
this as well or if you had a non-profit
[40:36] that decided to
start up like a program they might be a
[40:41] little eligible for a van like he sure
is you know
[40:43] so okay those would be circumstances
that you might want to keep your eye out
[40:48] for
there are small communities sometimes
[40:50] that get into this stuff
[40:55] also there's um i don't know i think
luxembourg might be a little small for
[40:59] it but
uh there are small cities that do um
[41:04] like a shared ride taxi that they might
be able to get vehicles for that type
[41:07] service and then also
they could get funding from the d.o.t
[41:11] for for a share to cover that
i know the small wisconsin community my
[41:17] son lives in population 4500 it's called
mauston in juneau county
[41:21] they have bands that run around and like
between 7 00 am and 10 pm and provide
[41:26] shared ride taxi marinette has something
like that but
[41:30] i don't know if you're at the population
threshold where you'd be looking at
[41:32] something like that or not
it's not really really about 2600
[41:37] yeah yeah so i i didn't think you were
probably big enough but
[41:41] uh but it's it's something that's out
there it's available and there may be
[41:45] communities of your size that are doing
it
[41:48] around the state but um
but you know you just have to gauge the
[41:54] interest if there is any or
demand or whatnot for something like
[41:59] that
so is there a website to go on or um
[42:03] um unfortunately once you come up after
the meeting and give me your email
[42:07] address and i'll send you a link to
something you know
[42:10] um and i'll just jot it down after the
meeting
[42:13] okay yeah so yeah okay thank you
thanks anything else under done well
[42:20] under um section two
[42:25] under do better we kind of had a
continuation of the theme from section
[42:29] one
determine whether transportation
[42:31] services can be expanded into the
villages of luxembourg and casco and the
[42:35] city of kiwani thoughts on this
[42:40] and we're looking the next five years i
don't know
[42:44] i think that continues to be appropriate
okay we'll continue that
[42:48] anything else that can be done better in
this area
[42:56] okay section three putting customers
first this addresses the ease of access
[43:00] to information about the transportation
services provided in tijuana county
[43:11] last time items that were done well
[43:15] fares are reasonable and affordable
given the high cost of the service
[43:18] provided
[43:21] people think of that
[43:24] appropriate okay
[43:28] volunteer drivers are doing an excellent
job i'm sure they are
[43:32] certainly driver training is available
[43:38] home visit assessments are made yes
i think you may want to note that the
[43:44] home visit assessments are made timely
i think jody does a really nice job of
[43:48] following through really promptly when
there's a request
[43:53] are made in a timely manner
okay
[44:01] and we had two new ones last time um
kiwani county has done a good job
[44:06] maintaining an adequate pool of
volunteer drivers
[44:08] um and we just had this report but uh
i don't know how you want to
[44:15] know a lot to do with right now i mean
no place for me to go and advocate to
[44:20] get more drivers
and drivers are afraid of their own
[44:24] health
[44:30] should we move that down to do better at
this point
[44:33] or we could rephrase it and say um under
under normal circumstances
[44:39] or something like that yeah you know
hopefully this will die down and then we
[44:44] can be back up and running full speed
yeah well just like we were reflecting
[44:50] of a cur
our current situation because if it's
[44:53] reflecting our current situation
we should move it down to do better i'm
[44:57] good with that i think even outside of
kova that's something we
[45:00] continually strive to improve on
certainly not an easy feat in our
[45:06] community no
[45:13] okay moving it down there
[45:30] i'm calling it do a better job
maintaining an adequate pool of
[45:33] volunteer drivers
[45:36] and then we'll strike that
[45:43] and then finally kiwani county offers
client diversity training for its
[45:48] drivers
[45:51] this has been a focus for our trainings
for drivers
[45:55] especially since we have really got to
expand transportation to those outside
[46:00] of the elderly population
so for example some of the training that
[46:04] we've done
is on mental health needs serving
[46:08] children with special needs
there was one training in which we focus
[46:14] more specifically on alcohol and other
drug issues
[46:18] physical health needs so we've done
quite a gamut there
[46:22] okay anything else that's been done well
that you'd want to
[46:27] add i wonder if there's anything
i wonder if there's anything you can put
[46:32] in since this is about putting customers
first
[46:35] i know all the drivers go really above
and beyond to make this a special day a
[46:42] special
experience for um for wherever they're
[46:46] taking the client and they've
developed a really good rapport with the
[46:49] clients so there's something could be
put in that
[46:52] you know the drivers are make this uh
um think about envelope a relationship
[46:59] make this a special experience for the
person because i know everybody does
[47:02] that and the people i drive
tell me about the other drivers they
[47:04] have and it's really
it's really commendable so i agree
[47:10] drivers make the transportation
experience special for their
[47:14] passengers customers
[47:26] it's not that you know we don't just sit
there and drive and and we're just
[47:29] taking them there and drop them off like
they're a piece of whatever
[47:32] it's a it's you know you you develop a
rapport with the people
[47:47] okay have added that drivers make the
translation experience special for their
[47:51] customers
and i know they know if there's a
[47:56] conscientiousness about that from the
management and that too
[48:02] it's been talked about at previous
meetings we've been at here and many of
[48:05] you have been there as well
so it was taken very very seriously
[48:11] anything else under done well under
section three
[48:18] items that can be done better we had
look at
[48:22] expanding existing services that are
available
[48:29] yes no i think that helps just stay
there
[48:34] okay second offer better outreach to the
hispanic population kiwani county this
[48:40] was put in the 2016 plan
[48:52] what's that have we made any headway
towards that that's why i'm
[48:56] um struggling with how to move forward
with that i think there
[49:00] continues to be a need
[49:05] i haven't heard that there's there is a
great need but
[49:09] um we certainly can continue to to make
that outreach
[49:14] i have a question so if you do that
outreach for let's say the hispanic
[49:18] community
are the drivers then going to be able to
[49:20] communicate if they have a hispanic
individual that
[49:24] has limited english we've made it work
okay i have a client i've driven a
[49:30] number of times who had very little
english but i do speak some spanish so
[49:35] we were able to communicate somewhat but
i know it's written with people who
[49:39] don't speak any spanish so
and i've been kind of hearing informally
[49:46] too that uh um
i have one of my wife's uh former
[49:51] colleagues is teaching over at
luxembourg casco and i think they're
[49:54] seeing increased enrollment there too
and about the other districts in the
[49:57] county
but
[50:01] it certainly is county-wide yeah
[50:06] so we'll keep that um administer
customer satisfaction surveys
[50:13] has that been done where it could get
moved up or do we keep it where it is
[50:17] here
i don't think we've followed through on
[50:20] that okay
it probably would be good to keep that
[50:24] on there and then maybe we could add a
customer
[50:27] not customer driver satisfaction survey
so we can
[50:31] also see what our drivers are feeling as
[50:38] well
[50:57] administer driver satisfaction surveys
and administer customer satisfaction
[51:01] surveys
and then we had do a better job
[51:05] maintaining an adequate pool of
volunteer drivers
[51:10] and anything else under do better in
this section
[51:22] okay next adapting funding for greater
mobility
[51:32] so items that are done well uh passenger
co-payments have been kept
[51:37] reasonable
[51:41] that's not fair for those of you who
aren't aware the copay
[51:45] request for round trip is five
dollars within um the city or village
[51:53] ten dollars within the county and then
twenty dollars to the surrounding
[51:56] counties
and then for the algoma bus is a dollar
[52:00] per trip
[52:03] i have not received any negative
feedback on that i feel like that's
[52:07] extremely reasonable especially in
comparison but people are paying
[52:10] privately
[52:14] so we can keep this bullet yes
and just another note we're always more
[52:20] than willing to waive or reduce
the copay if um is indicated that
[52:25] there's a struggle
are they going to try to get it where
[52:29] it's
[52:31] invoice instead of yep i think that's in
here
[52:35] i remember seeing that and um we have
also made strides with that lynn is
[52:40] doing a whole lot of invoicing
um and we found that the consumers
[52:44] appreciate that and
appreciates it too it just makes the
[52:48] whole billing process a little easier
for everybody
[52:50] are there any cash security issues that
we hear you hear in other places where
[52:55] drivers feel nervous having cash on
their person when
[52:59] collecting fares or anything like that
or not really it's not really
[53:03] gonna run after it okay
okay so we'll keep the first bullet
[53:12] second bus tickets or passes are
available in lieu of carrying cash to
[53:16] pay for rides
yes keep that
[53:25] next prepayment options for passengers
have been good
[53:29] managed care organization payments
invoicing etc
[53:34] okay
[53:39] and the last one we had in this area was
kiwani county can waive a payment
[53:46] when a customer is unable to pay
yeah okay
[53:52] anything else that's done well in this
area
[54:05] okay do better better explain the
invoicing option to customers
[54:13] i think we could move that up till well
because jody's been doing a really good
[54:17] job of telling the people as they've
been coming on
[54:21] yeah she includes that in part of the
assessment process
[54:25] um so i agree
[54:30] okay
[54:35] anything else that can be done better in
this area
[54:54] finally section 5 moving people
efficiently
[54:57] this address of centralized managerial
systems coordinate highly diverse
[55:00] multimodal service provision
the one item we had that was done well
[55:04] in this area and uh
i don't think it's kind of fall off when
[55:08] you get toward the end of these sections
probably because people are tired or
[55:11] whatever
but uh the one item we had was done well
[55:15] in this area was
there's good communication between
[55:18] riders drivers and office staff
i believe that's still true okay
[55:28] and items that can be done better what
was listed last time was explore the
[55:32] possibility of a mobility management
project that benefits kiwani county
[55:38] we have not moved forward with that and
that's something i'm still open to
[55:42] exploring
door county has offered to be a resource
[55:46] as we move forward with exploring that
so
[55:49] i think that can stay you're kind of
i don't know i don't want to see it
[55:54] surround i don't know brown county's
situation very well but
[55:56] uh you get door to the north and man
talk to the south and they both have
[56:00] mobility managers
so um you've got resources on both ends
[56:07] so you want to keep it yes okay anything
else done well or do better in this area
[56:12] of moving people efficiently that
anybody wants to add
[56:20] okay and then any other discussion that
people would like to make note of here
[56:35] can we go back to if we go back to
moving people efficiently
[56:39] the done well outside of colvids
lori does a remarkable job in combining
[56:46] rides
for efficiency and um it's really
[56:50] helping with
financially
[56:57] it doesn't apply to covet at all but no
but
[57:00] you're absolutely right and actually
that is a result of
[57:04] struggling to find more volunteers so
she has worked tirelessly to try and
[57:08] combine
multiple rides to get everybody where
[57:11] they need to do to be without
use of too many drivers
[57:18] i want to hear the rest of your
statement i had mentioned combining
[57:21] rides but you
you added some more words to that that i
[57:23] want to make sure that i heard
for efficiency and financial benefit
[57:29] or something like that maybe just simple
don't know what that means
[57:50] if i put something and this could be
shuffled around but there's great
[57:56] efficiency in combining rides
for the financial benefit of the county
[58:01] and i put in parentheses at least
pre-covered
[58:07] anybody want to tweak that or
[58:12] chris chris doesn't have much to do to
shape it
[58:16] i think it's easier doing it this way
than the board with the remote thing we
[58:19] got going here so
yes maybe this would apply it went to
[58:23] the solar point to this category but i
think to give some credit as far as to
[58:27] the driver
that they adhere to uh safety
[58:30] requirements and and
um you know we want to say safety
[58:34] measures
uh we've never had any issues you hear
[58:36] in some counties and tvs where
somebody gets an accident there's some
[58:40] poor passengers
so they weren't properly you know fast
[58:43] and things of that nature but you know
identifying the
[58:47] attention detail uh for the drivers you
know as far as being able to do all
[58:51] these in a safe manner
and we certainly appreciate you
[58:55] presenting at some of our
driver meetings who just have that
[59:00] feedback regularly
and in addition to the driving safety i
[59:04] think
perhaps we should include the um
[59:08] safety measures connected to koben
they've been
[59:11] both the drivers and the riders have
done a great job of
[59:14] adhering to those measures to keep
everybody safe
[59:20] so we want to work with that one you
want two separate ones or
[59:24] one do you think they both fit there
[Music]
[59:42] anyway i'll write something up and uh
we'll um
[59:46] wherever you put it fine yeah
[59:57] so section three
[1:00:02] especially with the ability to
[1:00:12] change
[1:00:17] okay yeah i made a note of that and i'll
a words method somehow
[1:00:21] um and i'll have you guys look at it
before it's
[1:00:25] uh final so
[1:00:30] any other discussion
[1:00:38] okay that would take care of
[1:00:46] county coordination assessment exercise
[1:00:52] county action plan i do have a handout
here
[1:01:22] so i worked with um melissa and with the
shore industries staff and we uh
[1:01:29] reviewed the um the table five from the
previous plan
[1:01:33] um
[1:01:37] and um came up with um
some action items there were some that
[1:01:42] were deleted uh
um but we continued on with several of
[1:01:47] the
um have the main ones here
[1:01:51] first we have continuing to monitor
representation on the kiwani county
[1:01:56] transportation coordinating committee
or tcc to make sure that it meets the
[1:02:00] needs of those served
responsible parties or kewane county
[1:02:05] human services
department family and community services
[1:02:09] unit transportation staff these are all
going to be ongoing in terms of their
[1:02:13] implementation
schedule from 2021 to 2025
[1:02:18] and then uh we always have a roadblocks
to implementation
[1:02:22] column that says the changes or
committee expansion are recommended they
[1:02:26] need approval from the full county board
is there anything on this action item
[1:02:30] that anybody would want to
add anything delete
[1:02:36] this has been kind of a main staple in
the plans i think from the
[1:02:39] from the first one we did
[1:02:43] anything
[1:02:46] i think it's good we've done a nice job
of continuing to bring people into the
[1:02:52] committee
new providers new consumers i think
[1:02:55] there's a nice representation
overall okay thank you
[1:03:01] next we have continuing to update the
county's transportation service
[1:03:05] inventory
and update the transportation service
[1:03:08] resource guide as needed
and the responsible parties here are the
[1:03:12] county human service
department's family and community
[1:03:15] service services unit transportation
staff
[1:03:18] provides information to the aging
disability resource center of the
[1:03:22] lakeshore to be published
and roadblocks
[1:03:27] we just mentioned that there will need
to be outside assistance to keep this
[1:03:30] inventory updated
anything needs to be tweaked here
[1:03:42] okay
[1:03:46] next utilize section 5310 program and
submit
[1:03:50] applications for capital equipment buses
and bands as needed to replace existing
[1:03:53] fleets
um we mentioned at this time
[1:03:58] eligible service providers in iwane
county including eastward industries and
[1:04:02] the kiwanis county human services
department are the main players with
[1:04:05] this
that's not to say down the road that
[1:04:08] there could be you know communities that
have transportation like we discussed
[1:04:11] earlier that would set up
something but at this point those are
[1:04:16] the
the two eligible entities within the
[1:04:18] county
um roadblock dependent upon continued
[1:04:22] receipt of section 5310 funding
but i don't really see that going away
[1:04:28] at any point it
keeps being reauthorized in every set of
[1:04:32] federal transportation reauthorization
legislation
[1:04:35] so um anything here
jeff you just may want to add as a
[1:04:41] roadblock
we need to continue to have local match
[1:04:46] to support the purchase
[1:04:51] historically we've had an abundance of
funding in our trust
[1:04:54] fund for the transportation program but
we are beginning to deplete that
[1:04:59] because of the match for previous
vehicles
[1:05:06] okay depending upon having a local match
[1:05:11] that phrased okay okay
next uh improved service convenience uh
[1:05:18] we have community uh kewane county human
service department family and community
[1:05:22] services unit transportation staff
no roadblocks that we see expanding the
[1:05:28] volunteer driver program again kejuani
county human services department family
[1:05:32] and community service
this is unit transportation staff and
[1:05:37] the one roadblock need to continue to
find qualified volunteers
[1:05:41] anything to be added here
[1:05:48] the next to last item uh provide
transportation services
[1:05:52] to more children with disabilities again
keywonder county human services
[1:05:57] department family and community services
unit transportation staff
[1:06:02] and roadblock we had here services would
be provided with the existing
[1:06:07] section 8521 funding services would be
provided using the same guidelines as
[1:06:12] the volunteer driver program
melissa and i had um have an email
[1:06:17] conversation about uh
you know the paid nature of that
[1:06:21] particular driver and we
struck that at this time um it was in
[1:06:25] the 2016
plan as a paid driver um anything on
[1:06:30] this at all
[1:06:35] and then the last item explorer section
5310 program options for operations
[1:06:39] capital and mobility management projects
again the same unit kiwani county human
[1:06:45] service department
family and community services unit
[1:06:48] transportation staff
and again this would be dependent upon
[1:06:51] continued receipt of section 5310
funding
[1:06:55] you want to add the local match there
too melissa or no
[1:07:06] and chef i'm not sure but that really
that local match is really more for
[1:07:09] melissa
our local matches based off of our our
[1:07:13] own board
of directors okay who's talking
[1:07:17] this is candy i'm sorry from east shore
okay
[1:07:22] yeah maybe i should add the words in the
case of kiwani county
[1:07:29] yeah i think that would be a good a good
way to differentiate
[1:07:49] is there anything that needs to be added
or struck here
[1:08:03] um so you'll see the footnote here that
the action plan would is to be approved
[1:08:10] at today's meeting so i guess we'd need
uh
[1:08:13] i guess have to go through a motion
second and approval of
[1:08:17] uh table five do you have a motion
five
[1:08:33] with the amendments that we discussed on
the on the two items okay
[1:08:39] anything else on table five
now we'll talk about the section 5310
[1:08:54] projects and they do have a handout for
that
[1:08:56] this is the last one you'll be getting
[1:09:15] i'll try to enlarge this for those of
you who are joining us remotely
[1:09:22] we went through about five drafts of
this as i put this together
[1:09:26] um
[1:09:30] so these are the capital projects that
we're looking at
[1:09:34] through the section 5310 program
[1:09:38] so in fiscal 2021 which technically is
october 1st 2020 through september 30th
[1:09:46] of 2021 no applications for kiwani
county human services department
[1:09:52] eastshore industries is looking at one
side entry transit slash bariatric
[1:09:58] vehicle with six ambulatory positions
and two wheelchair positions
[1:10:02] at the cost of approximately fifty two
thousand dollars
[1:10:08] any questions on twenty twenty one
oh that'd be short okay i'm sorry yeah
[1:10:20] fiscal 2022 neither kejuani county human
services department nor easter
[1:10:24] industries would have
any applications for that year
[1:10:30] uh fiscal year 2023 which is uh
september or october 1st 2022 through
[1:10:36] september 30th of 2023
that's a pretty active year kiwani
[1:10:41] county human services department would
be looking at one dual axle gas powered
[1:10:45] minibus
with nine ambulatory positions and two
[1:10:48] wheelchair positions at the cost of
we said approximately sixty thousand
[1:10:52] dollars i think it was maybe 57 but
we're inflating these in the out years
[1:10:57] somewhat so
that's why we bump the cost up a little
[1:11:00] bit if i could just clarify
so that 60 000 is what we would be
[1:11:05] applying
um for grant funding for and then the
[1:11:08] county would be responsible for the
match which i believe is 20
[1:11:12] 20 of 60 000 and that's typically what
we're digging into our trust fund for
[1:11:17] so as we mentioned earlier with barriers
we have to look at what's left in that
[1:11:21] trust fund to determine whether or not
financially it will be possible for us
[1:11:26] to move forward with that plan
um and then part of the email
[1:11:29] correspondence that we were having was
to find out if a cdl
[1:11:33] would be required for that larger
vehicle and we determined it is not
[1:11:37] yeah i talked to katie patterson down at
wisdot madison and
[1:11:41] she sent me an email i think i forwarded
it on
[1:11:45] there's a threshold i think it's 16 or
more
[1:11:49] occupants of the vehicle including the
drivers the threshold for cdl
[1:11:52] so i think you're you're probably going
to be okay
[1:11:56] you know if that were to be a problem
later we could certainly amend this plan
[1:11:59] and
you know default to the other vehicle
[1:12:02] that we discussed
but try to try to get you guys on the
[1:12:07] better side
in terms of vehicles and capacity and
[1:12:09] things like that
eastshore industries that particular
[1:12:13] year fiscal 23
they'd have one gas-powered medium bus
[1:12:17] with 10 ambulatory positions and two
wheelchair positions
[1:12:20] we're costing that at about sixty six
thousand dollars again that was inflated
[1:12:24] over the
the base for twenty twenty one so we've
[1:12:28] got that listed
fiscal year twenty twenty four neither
[1:12:33] kewane county human services department
nor
[1:12:35] shore industries would have any
applications for that fiscal year
[1:12:39] fiscal year 2025 kiwani county human
services department no applications
[1:12:43] estore industries
one new rear entry minivan with four
[1:12:48] ambulatory positions in one wheelchair
position
[1:12:50] at the cost of approximately forty six
thousand dollars again that was inflated
[1:12:54] over the
you know the 2021 listing that wisdot
[1:12:58] gave us um
you know for that year um try to try to
[1:13:02] incorporate
inflation here where we can we have a
[1:13:06] footnote here
applicant will continue to apply for
[1:13:08] listed projects if not funded in the
year in which they are listed
[1:13:13] and then any anything else on any of the
projects here any adjustments
[1:13:19] additions deletions
[1:13:25] have anything candy or look fine
[1:13:29] everything looks fine on our end
okay anything on the county's end
[1:13:36] looks great thank you okay so i guess we
need a motion and second on
[1:13:40] table six as well
[1:13:43] motion to approve the um
[1:13:48] the projects as listed in table six
[1:13:53] i make motion to approve a second
[1:13:58] oh does it have to be a committee member
or
[1:14:02] are we i think it's more like a public
meeting that um
[1:14:07] um dan it is correct
thank you all in favor
[1:14:15] opposed motion carried thank you
[1:14:23] that's why i had on my end we'll take
all of your information back and draft
[1:14:27] the plan
um you know at some point
[1:14:31] you know maybe we can review it at a tcc
meeting to make sure everything makes
[1:14:34] sense and
and that as well but
[1:14:38] it's kind of what i had for today i'd
like to thank you all for your
[1:14:42] participation and um
and we'll take this back and
[1:14:48] get everything written and put together
thank you all for attending and thank
[1:14:55] you jeff for preparing this if that was
a big project and certainly appreciate
[1:14:59] your guidance through the project
um before we depart i just wanted to
[1:15:05] explore a meeting date for
our next ucc um which as i had mentioned
[1:15:11] earlier will be a time in which
we are going to be looking at the 8521
[1:15:16] application
so it will be held in conjunction with
[1:15:19] the public hearing for that application
um ann sullivan is a new transportation
[1:15:26] provider
in the in the county and she is
[1:15:29] interested in
participating and being present for
[1:15:34] future meetings
she is unable to participate when we
[1:15:38] hold the meetings at 10 o'clock
um and typically laura you prefer to not
[1:15:43] meet before then right
so i was wondering if like 11 30 might
[1:15:47] work
on a tuesday um
[1:15:53] how early can we go it's like eight
o'clock okay
[1:15:57] does eight o'clock work for the majority
of people okay
[1:16:00] the date i had looked at was tuesday
november 17th
[1:16:04] but i can be flexible with that date if
needed
[1:16:08] yes yes department heads i have that in
your thought know if that was a change
[1:16:12] or why i have living here but they have
november 17th
[1:16:15] and what time is that at 9.
usually we're done within an hour so
[1:16:21] should we try and do back to back
okay so we're looking at tuesday
[1:16:27] november 17th
at 8 a.m here
[1:16:32] i'm not sure the location but that'll be
shared when the agenda comes out
[1:16:39] are you saying that's the next meeting
dave correct
[1:16:43] i'm sorry i won't be here
[1:16:47] should we look at an alternate tuesday
are you available generally on tuesdays
[1:16:53] linda
[1:16:58] linda are you generally available on
tuesdays
[1:17:02] are you generally available on tuesdays
that one just doesn't work
[1:17:05] that 17th okay the 10th the 10th county
board and the 24th is adrc in aging
[1:17:14] um what is county board in the evenings
here on the 10th so could we do the
[1:17:20] morning of that of the tenth
time does 8 o'clock on the 10th work for
[1:17:25] everybody
[1:17:28] all right we will plan for that
[1:17:33] any other questions comments feedback
okay thank you again for participating
[1:17:38] just going to be looking for a motion to
[1:17:42] adjourn
[1:17:49] sounds good thank you everybody thank
[1:17:56] you
[1:18:02] oh i didn't contact him because i was
kind of busy