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Oh, yeah. Good evening. Good

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evening, ladies and gentlemen.

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The mayor has called the

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council meeting to order. Mayor

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Roscoe, present. Council member

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Bracken here. Council member

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Kaplan. Good enough. Council

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member. London. Vice mayor.

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Sardine. Council member. Stoner.

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Here. Council member. Vasquez.

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Thank you, MR. Mayor. We do

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have a quorum. Please rise for

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the Pledge of Allegiance. I

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pledge allegiance to the flag

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of the United States of America.

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To the republic for which it

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stands. One nation under GOD,

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indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all. Stay standing

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for the invocation. Good

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evening, honorable mayor, vice

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mayor, esteemed members of our

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council. So in our society,

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leaders are appointed by their

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fellow citizens who entrust and

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empower them to represent us

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and to look out for the benefit

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of the community. On a deeper

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level, the Talmud teaches that

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every position of leadership is

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appointed from heaven, meaning

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when a person finds themselves

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in a position of responsibility,

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especially when it's a

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responsibility of service to

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others, they are not there by

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accident. We're taught that

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they have been placed there

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from heaven. And together with

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that responsibility comes the

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ability to fulfill it properly.

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GOD does not place us in a

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position where something is

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asked of us that we do not have

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the ability to accomplish. Our

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village is now preparing for a

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new fiscal year, and in the

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Jewish calendar, we're also

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preparing for a new year. In

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the weeks ahead, we will

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celebrate Rosh Hashanah. Rosh

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Hashanah is the Jewish New Year,

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but the Hebrew words Rosh

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Hashanah translate more

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literally as the head of the

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year, just as the head gives

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vision and direction to the

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entire body these days, give

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vision and direction to the

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year ahead. And actually the

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Torah. The leaders of a

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community are also called heads

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for the same reason, because

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they are called upon to provide

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clarity, vision, and direction

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for the path ahead. If that is

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their responsibility, then

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surely they have been given the

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ability to fulfill it and to

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fulfill it with much success.

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With this in mind, please join

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me in prayer to the Almighty

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GOD. MAY our Council be blessed

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to carry the responsibility

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entrusted to them with

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confidence and with joy. MAY

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they guide us toward our shared

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vision, leading by example as

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good citizens, kind neighbors,

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and as a part of a connected

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community. MAY GOD bless their

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minds with clarity and wisdom,

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and bless their hearts with

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kindness and sensitivity to

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listen deeply and lead

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effectively. And MAY our

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village be blessed to become

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the community we all hope for.

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One where we live together in

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peace, harmony, and friendship.

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And MAY we all be blessed as we

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wish each other a Shana Tova a

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year filled with goodness and

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sweetness. A year in which our

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community grew stronger and

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more connected. And let us say

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Amen. Amen. Rabbi. The next

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item, MR. Mayor, is brief

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comments by Council. Okay.

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Anybody here? To my right. I

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always have something to say.

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Go ahead. I would just like to.

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Remind everyone that on AUGUST

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15th, Saturday, we had our

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first ever sports fair at the

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Village Community Center and it

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was fantastic. It was very well

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attended. It was super, super

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fun. And I would like to

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recognize David Carano in

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particular, who put the entire

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day together. He coordinated

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everything, food, all the all

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the coaches. It was amazing.

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And I would like to thank David

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for all of his hard work. It

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was a wonderful event and it

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will be one that we will repeat

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annually, I'm sure. Thanks,

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David. Thank you. Oh, I see the

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the young ladies back there.

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Let's do the young ladies who

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are celebrating kb girls soccer

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team, u13 state champions. So

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let's let's Council let's go

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down.

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Congratulations.

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On your

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Sunday that. Was all right. You

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want to hold this. Who's. Coach

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do you want to tell us what

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this great team did? Thank you,

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everyone for being here. Thank

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you. Thank you Marcelo. Thank

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you Jimmy. Thank you Sofia, and

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congratulations to my girls.

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Good afternoon everyone. I'm

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very proud to be here today

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representing the Soccer Club

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Girls program. Over the last

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few years, our girls program

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has grown tremendously. Our

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girls have won the

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Commissioner's Cup, PRESIDENT

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Cup and now the State Cup.

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Something very special for our

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programs and for you as well.

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But for me, it's not only about

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the trophies, it's about the

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development of our girls, their

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hard work, commitment,

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dedication, discipline and how

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much they have improved. The

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State Cup trophy belongs to

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everyone or players or coaches,

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parents, the girls and the

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entire community. I'm very

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proud of you guys and

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everything we have accomplished

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together. We haven't finished

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yet. This is only the beginning.

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Thank you everyone and GOD

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bless you. Thank you, thank you,

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thank you, thank you, thank you.

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Yes, ma'am. Yes. Next. Are you.

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Who is? Wait wait wait. Good

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evening. My name is Sophia

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Chica and I am so honored to be

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representing my team today. I'm

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incredibly proud to say that

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the Key Biscayne 2013 girls are

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Florida State champions. Our

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team is the first girls team in

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our club's history to win a

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Florida State championship. So

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this is a historic moment for

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our team, our club and Key

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Biscayne. Most of us have

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played together since we were

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little. We have grown up

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together, practice together,

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won, lost and become best

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friends. This was such a great

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season for us and it was a

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season that I will always

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remember. We learned so much

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not just about soccer, but also

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about working together,

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trusting each other, staying

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positive and not giving up when

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things got difficult. Every

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practice gave us a chance to

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improve and learn something new.

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We practice and practice,

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sometimes repeating the same

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things until we got them right.

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teamwork and our communication

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and our confidence. There were

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definitely moments when things

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were hard, but we kept showing

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up and working together. We

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pushed each other to get better

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and we learned from our

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mistakes instead of letting

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them bring us down. Every game

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and every practice helped us

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become a stronger team. Looking

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back, I think all of those

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little moments throughout the

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season prepared us for the

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biggest moments. Winning the

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state championship wasn't just

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about what happened on the

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final day. It was a result of

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everything we had done

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throughout the season, all the

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practices, all the games, all

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the things we learned and all

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the time we spent together.

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When we finally won, it felt

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really special because we knew

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how much we were, how much work

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we had put in into getting

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there. And even though winning

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was amazing, I think one of the

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best parts of the season was

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getting to experience it

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together. We had so many fun

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moments, laughed together,

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supported each other, and made

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memories that we will remember

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for a long time. I really

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enjoyed being with my teammates

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every week and getting to see

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how much we improved from the

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beginning of the season to the

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end. I truly believe that

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friendship and teamwork helped

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us win. We fight for each other

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on the field because we care

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about each other off the field.

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We know each other's strengths,

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we trust each other, and we

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know what we can count on each

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other. That connection is

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something really special about

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our team. I want to thank our

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coaches, families, club and

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community for supporting us.

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Our coaches believed us, taught

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us, challenged us and helped us

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become better players and

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better teammates. Our families

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have supported us through all

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the practices, games,

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tournaments and everything in

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between, and our community has

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given us a place to play, grow

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and represent Key Biscayne. And

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most importantly, I want to

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thank my my teammates. I'm so

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grateful for all the memories

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we have made together, for the

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way we always support each

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other, and for how much we have

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grown together over the years.

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I'm really proud to be part of

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this team. We have been through

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so much together and getting to

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share this championship with

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the people I have grown up

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playing with makes it even more

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special. I know that none of

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this would have been the same

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without each other, without

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each and every one of them. But

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I also hope this championship

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can help create change. Girls

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are a smaller part of our

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soccer program, and

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historically we have not always

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had the same coaching,

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specialized training or

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opportunities as the boys. And

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still this group of girls

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became the first girls state

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championships in our club's

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history. That shows how much

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potential there is when girls

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are given the opportunity to

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work hard, develop and compete

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at a high level. Imagine high

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level. Imagine what girls could

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accomplish if we continue

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investing in them and giving

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them more opportunities to grow.

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As we get older, many girls

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leave Biscayne to find higher

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level opportunities. But why

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should girls have to leave Key

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Biscayne to find those

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opportunities? Why can't we

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build a girls program so strong

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that talented girls from other

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communities want to come to Key

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Biscayne to play, develop and

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compete. We want to stay

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together, keep growing, and and

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help make Biscayne a

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destination for girls soccer.

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We want younger girls in our

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community to see that there's a

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place for them here, and that

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they can dream big and work

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toward their goal without

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having to leave their community.

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We were excited to represent

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Key Biscayne at Nationals, and

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I was sad that journey ended,

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but I know we have already

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accomplished something really

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special together, and I am

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proud of everything that we did

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this season. This season taught

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us that hard work, patience,

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teamwork and enjoying the game

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can take you a long way. We

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didn't just win a championship.

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We learned and proved and

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created memories together that

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will carry with us. I hope this

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championship can be the start

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of even more opportunities for

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girls soccer in Key Biscayne.

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We are proud of what we have

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accomplished, grateful for

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everyone who helped us get here,

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and excited to keep working,

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growing and representing Key

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Biscayne. Thank you.

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Winning

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the Florida State Championship

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with the 2013 Girls Elite team

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means so much to all of us.

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We've been playing together for

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so long and through all these

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years. We've made so many

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memories that will carry with

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us forever. We've grown

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together, support each other,

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laugh together, and push

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through all the hard moments

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together. This championship

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isn't just about winning a

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trophy, it's about everything

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we've been through as a team

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and how far we've come. We're

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so thankful for every

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opportunity, every game, every

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practice and most importantly

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for each other. We're also

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super thankful for coach, for

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believing in us, pushing us,

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and helping us become the

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players and teams we are today.

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And to all of our families who

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have supported us throughout

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every game, practice, early

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mornings and long drives. Thank

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you for always being there and

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believing in us. I'm so proud

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to be part of this team and

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couldn't imagine sharing this

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moment with anyone else. We

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started as teammates, but along

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the way we became families.

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Thank you. Good evening. My

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name is Valentina Gill and I

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play for the u14 girls team.

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Winning the State Cup final was

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one of the best moments of my

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life, but getting there was not

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easy. A few months before, I

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had a huge knee surgery and I

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had to work hard to get back to

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soccer. Recovery was hard. I

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missed playing with my team and

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sometimes I felt frustrated

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because I just wanted to be

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back on the field. I had to be

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patient and keep working even

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when it was difficult. On MAY

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17th, I got to play in the

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State Cup final. We were losing

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one zero and there were only

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ten minutes left in the game.

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We didn't give up. We kept

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fighting, scored and came back

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to win the game. Winning, after

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everything I had been through,

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made the moment even more

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special. Going. Going from

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having surgery and working to

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get back to the field and to

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winning a state Cup was

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something I will never forget.

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This experience taught me to

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never give up, even when things

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get hard. If you keep working

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and believe in yourself, you'll

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come back stronger. Thank you.

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Thank you parents. Thank you a

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team. It's a great victory. We

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we're going to do it again next

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year. No no no no. Are we going

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to do it again next year? One.

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Two. Three. Thank you so much.

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Thank you. Good job.

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No. Why do

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I smell like. I was eating? The

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next item? The next item, MR.

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Mayor, is public comments.

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All

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right. Yeah. Okay, everyone,

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I've got a lot of public

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comments here tonight, so I'll

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be brief and to the point and

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try not to repeat what what the

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other person has said already.

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So that would be great. I'm

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going to start with Linda.

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Correct? Yes, yes. Can I move

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this? I think you can reach you.

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So. You. Can you hold it? Yeah.

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Okay. Good evening. My name is

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Linda. Correct. I live at 101

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Ocean Lane Drive, and I'm

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formerly from the uk, as you

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can probably hear. And now I'm

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a permanent resident of

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Paradise Island of Key Biscayne.

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Except it's not a Paradise

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island. If you are handicapped,

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let me give you some examples.

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I understand that a rolling

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wheelchair was purchased by the

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village a while ago, but where

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is it? I also understand that

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there was a request made to

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purchase beach mats and a

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floating wheelchair. It would

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be great if there was a

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floating wheelchair available

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in the Key Biscayne Beach Park

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near the paddle board site, and

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beach mats that extended near

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to the sea. So frustrating not

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being able to get onto the

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beach. Finally, in connection

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with the beach access paths

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next to the Commodore Club or

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the Key Biscayne Beach Park,

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there is no way at all for

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disabled people to get onto the

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beach at these locations. I

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also understand that the mayor

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and the manager have details

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and photos of the poor state of

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the repair of the beach paths.

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Access issues. Please get them

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repaired. Please consider what

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I have mentioned as a resident,

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I would love to be able to

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breathe in the fresh sea air

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sargassum, allowing in a

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wheelchair. Thank you. Thank

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you. Jackson. Berlin. Good

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evening, Council members. My

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name is Jackson Berlin. I live

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in a in a 1121 Crandon

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Boulevard, apartment f 1203.

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I'm 17 years old. I'm a senior

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at Ransom Everglades, and I've

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lived on Key Biscayne ever

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since I was in kindergarten.

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Now, according to chapter eight,

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article six, since 2009, this

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village has regulated lighting

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to protect sea turtles. However,

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the same cannot be said about

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birds. So let's examine why Key

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Biscayne is so necessary

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towards the migration of birds.

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Then understand how unregulated

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lighting has its effect on

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these birds. Before finally

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looking at some resolutions to

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this problem. First of all, Key

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Biscayne is uniquely situated

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in the lead. Key Biscayne is

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specifically billed. Bag parks

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is a critical stopover on the

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Atlantic fairway. The Cape

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Florida banding station has

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banded its 50,000th bird last

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year, representing 119 species.

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The Smithsonian and U.S. Fish

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and Wildlife Studies estimates

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building collisions kill 599

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million birds a year.

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Nationally, 56% of these deaths

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is caused by low rise buildings.

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The reason for this is due to

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many municipal buildings

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keeping lights on past hours,

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such as 11 P.M. To dawn during

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migration season, and due to

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the fact that migration season

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started here AUGUST 15th, just

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ten days ago, these birds are

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currently at risk. Now, I have

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two resolutions to this problem.

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First of all, during the fall

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migration season, turning off

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village and municipal lighting

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past 11 P.M. To dawn during the

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migration season. This way, we

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can mitigate the deaths of

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birds during the migration

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season due to unregulated

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lighting. And second of all,

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outside the power of the

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village, there is the power of

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the residents. Which leads to

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my second resolution, which is

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supporting lights out programs

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in Key Biscayne. Over 30

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different states in the U.S.

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Have adopted lights out

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programs such as New York, San

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Francisco, Chicago, Boston and

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every state owned building in

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New York State. However, as far

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as I can find, there is not a

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single Florida municipality

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that has adopted this

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resolution. Key Biscayne could

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be the first. After turning off

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lights, worked, a 20 year study

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00:22:43,745 --> 00:22:45,914
in Chicago found that having

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the lights in the area cut

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collisions 11 fold in spring,

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supporting. Nonprofits such as

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Smart Bird, a group that I run

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with students, will support the

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fact that residents should turn

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off lights past 11 P.M. To 6

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A.M. Thank you and support this

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resolution. Thank you so much.

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Edward. Edward stone. Good

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evening, Mayor and council.

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Edward Stone, longtime resident

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of the key. 355 Harbor Lane.

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When we spoke last JUNE, I

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raised concerns regarding the

567
00:23:33,795 --> 00:23:35,630
consistency, transparency and

568
00:23:35,630 --> 00:23:37,432
accountability of the village's

569
00:23:37,432 --> 00:23:39,432
administrative process. I

570
00:23:39,934 --> 00:23:42,334
explained these concerns extend

571
00:23:42,838 --> 00:23:44,239
beyond my individual property

572
00:23:44,239 --> 00:23:46,410
dispute and provided an

573
00:23:46,410 --> 00:23:47,976
administrative summary packet

574
00:23:47,976 --> 00:23:50,376
with specific examples within

575
00:23:51,447 --> 00:23:53,582
it. I ended by asking how those

576
00:23:53,582 --> 00:23:56,484
concerns could be reviewed and

577
00:23:56,484 --> 00:23:58,884
addressed. I'm back tonight

578
00:23:59,387 --> 00:24:01,787
because the concerns remain

579
00:24:02,224 --> 00:24:03,892
unanswered. On JUNE 29th, the

580
00:24:03,892 --> 00:24:05,827
village manager characterized

581
00:24:05,827 --> 00:24:08,227
the remaining concerns as

582
00:24:08,329 --> 00:24:10,329
internal village operations.

583
00:24:10,532 --> 00:24:12,932
Consider my prior requests

584
00:24:13,735 --> 00:24:15,503
fulfilled and closed the matter.

585
00:24:15,503 --> 00:24:16,971
I asked which outstanding

586
00:24:16,971 --> 00:24:18,971
concerns were considered

587
00:24:19,540 --> 00:24:21,940
internal, operational and the

588
00:24:22,377 --> 00:24:24,946
basis for the determination. I

589
00:24:24,946 --> 00:24:25,980
did not receive an answer. I

590
00:24:25,980 --> 00:24:27,415
continued through the

591
00:24:27,415 --> 00:24:29,415
administrative process. Since

592
00:24:29,585 --> 00:24:31,420
then, another significant

593
00:24:31,420 --> 00:24:33,188
inconsistency has emerged. I

594
00:24:33,188 --> 00:24:35,588
was repeatedly advised in

595
00:24:35,757 --> 00:24:37,125
writing that code violations

596
00:24:37,125 --> 00:24:39,328
remained active and fines

597
00:24:39,328 --> 00:24:41,960
continued to run. Yet at the

598
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:42,197
AUGUST 7th Special Magistrates

599
00:24:42,197 --> 00:24:44,197
Meeting, village staff

600
00:24:44,733 --> 00:24:46,534
presented MAY 13th as the

601
00:24:46,534 --> 00:24:47,602
compliance date. I asked the

602
00:24:47,602 --> 00:24:49,380
manager to review the

603
00:24:49,380 --> 00:24:50,806
underlying administrative

604
00:24:50,806 --> 00:24:52,274
record. I'm not challenging the

605
00:24:52,274 --> 00:24:54,274
Special Magistrate's

606
00:24:54,409 --> 00:24:56,244
Independent decision. I'm

607
00:24:56,244 --> 00:24:58,790
asking for a review of the

608
00:24:58,790 --> 00:24:59,448
village's administrative

609
00:24:59,448 --> 00:25:02,448
actions and the records that

610
00:25:03,785 --> 00:25:05,954
precede it. I understand

611
00:25:05,954 --> 00:25:07,388
section 4.02 of the Village

612
00:25:07,388 --> 00:25:09,191
Charter prohibits individual

613
00:25:09,191 --> 00:25:10,659
council members from directing

614
00:25:10,659 --> 00:25:12,761
village employees. I'm not

615
00:25:12,761 --> 00:25:16,361
asking you to do that, but

616
00:25:16,364 --> 00:25:18,567
section 3.01 makes the manager

617
00:25:18,567 --> 00:25:21,469
responsible to the Council for

618
00:25:21,469 --> 00:25:23,469
the village's administration

619
00:25:25,773 --> 00:25:27,575
and section 4.02 b expressly

620
00:25:27,575 --> 00:25:28,644
recognizes inquiries and

621
00:25:28,644 --> 00:25:31,440
investigations made in good

622
00:25:32,580 --> 00:25:35,483
faith. So I ask, what charter

623
00:25:35,483 --> 00:25:37,286
complaint process exists for

624
00:25:37,286 --> 00:25:39,540
reviewing documented concerns

625
00:25:39,540 --> 00:25:41,540
about village administration

626
00:25:41,222 --> 00:25:43,391
when those concerns are

627
00:25:43,391 --> 00:25:45,193
characterized as internal

628
00:25:45,193 --> 00:25:47,593
operation and closed without

629
00:25:47,696 --> 00:25:48,764
substantial review? I'm asking

630
00:25:48,764 --> 00:25:50,764
that these administrative

631
00:25:51,299 --> 00:25:53,468
concerns be reviewed and

632
00:25:53,468 --> 00:25:55,637
addressed. At minimum, I ask

633
00:25:55,637 --> 00:25:57,872
that this matter be placed on a

634
00:25:57,872 --> 00:25:59,641
future council agenda and that

635
00:25:59,641 --> 00:26:02,410
the appropriate review and

636
00:26:02,110 --> 00:26:03,678
oversight process be reviewed.

637
00:26:03,678 --> 00:26:05,800
Truly, thank you for your time,

638
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,182
your consideration, and your

639
00:26:07,182 --> 00:26:10,182
service to our island. Thank

640
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,960
you so much. Steve Powell.

641
00:26:21,162 --> 00:26:24,980
Thank you. Counsel Steve Powell,

642
00:26:24,980 --> 00:26:26,235
441 Island Drive, Key Biscayne,

643
00:26:26,235 --> 00:26:28,300
speaking tonight about 303

644
00:26:28,300 --> 00:26:29,471
Galen Avenue, Coral Reef

645
00:26:29,471 --> 00:26:30,905
Apartments. Initially on

646
00:26:30,905 --> 00:26:33,905
tonight's agenda as a first

647
00:26:34,209 --> 00:26:36,311
reading of a codification of 30

648
00:26:36,311 --> 00:26:37,379
district. My understanding is

649
00:26:37,379 --> 00:26:39,915
the zoning action was pulled

650
00:26:39,915 --> 00:26:41,716
from the agenda in favor of a

651
00:26:41,716 --> 00:26:43,618
presentation of the proposed

652
00:26:43,618 --> 00:26:45,153
redevelopment. In short, I do

653
00:26:45,153 --> 00:26:46,722
not feel that this project

654
00:26:46,722 --> 00:26:50,322
should be pushed off for the

655
00:26:50,692 --> 00:26:52,493
following reasons. Zoning the

656
00:26:52,493 --> 00:26:54,663
clarification change would not

657
00:26:54,663 --> 00:26:57,630
establish a precedence. There

658
00:26:57,566 --> 00:26:59,667
are only five properties non

659
00:26:59,667 --> 00:27:02,670
waterfront properties in Key

660
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,942
Biscayne that are zoned r, m 34

661
00:27:06,942 --> 00:27:08,710
are in the the district and

662
00:27:08,710 --> 00:27:10,845
then the other. The fifth is up

663
00:27:10,845 --> 00:27:13,845
on Ocean Lane with the

664
00:27:14,449 --> 00:27:16,618
exception of 303. All are built

665
00:27:16,618 --> 00:27:18,420
to a maximum density already.

666
00:27:18,420 --> 00:27:19,487
They're not going to be

667
00:27:19,487 --> 00:27:20,789
redeveloped. All of the

668
00:27:20,789 --> 00:27:22,757
properties are individually

669
00:27:22,757 --> 00:27:25,157
owned condos, with the

670
00:27:25,661 --> 00:27:26,695
exception of 303. So

671
00:27:26,695 --> 00:27:28,129
redevelopment of the other

672
00:27:28,129 --> 00:27:30,129
properties is virtually

673
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,432
impossible if not economically

674
00:27:33,568 --> 00:27:35,370
feasible. Pushing off 303 to

675
00:27:35,370 --> 00:27:36,604
allow for a larger study of the

676
00:27:36,604 --> 00:27:38,273
Garden District is not in the

677
00:27:38,273 --> 00:27:41,273
best interest of the community.

678
00:27:41,442 --> 00:27:43,278
Why? The district represents 30

679
00:27:43,278 --> 00:27:46,147
parcels, plus or minus. All but

680
00:27:46,147 --> 00:27:47,549
two are individual condos

681
00:27:47,549 --> 00:27:49,949
without a significant increase

682
00:27:50,118 --> 00:27:51,552
in density, development is

683
00:27:51,552 --> 00:27:53,154
virtually impossible, and

684
00:27:53,154 --> 00:27:55,857
there's no way we're going to

685
00:27:55,857 --> 00:27:57,992
allow more density anywhere. In

686
00:27:57,992 --> 00:28:00,729
my opinion, the my opinion,

687
00:28:00,729 --> 00:28:02,864
stopping the study, something

688
00:28:02,864 --> 00:28:04,866
that will never happen. Meaning

689
00:28:04,866 --> 00:28:07,135
the redevelopment of the Garden

690
00:28:07,135 --> 00:28:08,803
District is academic at best,

691
00:28:08,803 --> 00:28:10,539
but in reality a waste of

692
00:28:10,539 --> 00:28:12,840
taxpayer money. And we don't

693
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,760
need that. Finishing up tax

694
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,311
revenue 303 today is assessed

695
00:28:17,311 --> 00:28:19,311
at approximately $9 million,

696
00:28:19,815 --> 00:28:21,815
with about 26,000 contributed

697
00:28:22,350 --> 00:28:24,319
to your budget. Redevelopment

698
00:28:24,319 --> 00:28:26,719
would likely add $150 million

699
00:28:26,821 --> 00:28:29,221
in assessed value and

700
00:28:29,357 --> 00:28:31,259
approximately 500,000 to your

701
00:28:31,259 --> 00:28:32,995
to your budget. When the state

702
00:28:32,995 --> 00:28:35,130
is trying to limit our revenue,

703
00:28:35,130 --> 00:28:37,599
you would think an additional

704
00:28:37,599 --> 00:28:39,599
500,000 would be welcomed.

705
00:28:39,801 --> 00:28:40,902
Infrastructure improvements

706
00:28:40,902 --> 00:28:43,302
redevelopment would involve on

707
00:28:43,371 --> 00:28:44,506
and off site water stormwater

708
00:28:44,506 --> 00:28:45,574
improvements, which the

709
00:28:45,574 --> 00:28:47,574
district would seriously

710
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:49,978
benefit from. And a bird in the

711
00:28:49,978 --> 00:28:52,470
hand is better than two. In the

712
00:28:52,470 --> 00:28:53,448
bush. You have a local

713
00:28:53,448 --> 00:28:54,549
developer which has spent

714
00:28:54,549 --> 00:28:56,949
hundreds of thousands of

715
00:28:57,785 --> 00:28:59,200
dollars to study this site. The

716
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:00,455
developer has invested months

717
00:29:00,455 --> 00:29:02,824
of due diligence and meetings

718
00:29:02,824 --> 00:29:04,459
with the village staff seeking

719
00:29:04,459 --> 00:29:07,459
guidance, and is not increasing

720
00:29:07,495 --> 00:29:09,330
the density. In fact, would be

721
00:29:09,330 --> 00:29:11,466
reducing the current use as a

722
00:29:11,466 --> 00:29:12,834
transient hotel, not moving

723
00:29:12,834 --> 00:29:15,700
forward with the request to

724
00:29:15,700 --> 00:29:16,504
amend the zoning code will

725
00:29:16,504 --> 00:29:18,106
likely not allow the developer

726
00:29:18,106 --> 00:29:20,409
to proceed with the contract,

727
00:29:20,409 --> 00:29:21,943
and the village would lose a

728
00:29:21,943 --> 00:29:23,712
unique opportunity to leverage

729
00:29:23,712 --> 00:29:25,146
this development for overall

730
00:29:25,146 --> 00:29:27,546
enhancement to the district.

731
00:29:28,449 --> 00:29:30,452
Thank you. Oh, by the way, I'm

732
00:29:30,452 --> 00:29:31,987
over time. Is it third time

733
00:29:31,987 --> 00:29:33,755
I've received this on the

734
00:29:33,755 --> 00:29:34,889
swales. I hope that the village

735
00:29:34,889 --> 00:29:36,858
will take that up. I have by

736
00:29:36,858 --> 00:29:38,727
far one of the largest swales.

737
00:29:38,727 --> 00:29:39,994
Thank GOD I spent a lot of

738
00:29:39,994 --> 00:29:41,129
money on it, but I keep getting

739
00:29:41,129 --> 00:29:42,898
notices about the compliance

740
00:29:42,898 --> 00:29:46,498
and I hope we will rereview

741
00:29:50,338 --> 00:29:53,338
that. Thank you. Okay. Next

742
00:29:55,376 --> 00:29:57,112
speaker Luis de la Cruz. Good

743
00:29:57,112 --> 00:30:00,820
afternoon. Council Luis de la

744
00:30:00,820 --> 00:30:02,482
Cruz, 640 Allendale. MR. Mayor,

745
00:30:03,651 --> 00:30:07,388
MR. Vice mayor, I think on the

746
00:30:07,388 --> 00:30:09,223
floor. I come to you to speak

747
00:30:09,223 --> 00:30:11,960
to you about three items on

748
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,560
your agenda. The first item is

749
00:30:18,660 --> 00:30:21,666
nine a, which is. The roadway

750
00:30:22,404 --> 00:30:24,804
resurfacing. Please think about

751
00:30:27,740 --> 00:30:29,978
not paving over our brick

752
00:30:29,978 --> 00:30:30,979
pavers. We have a little bit of

753
00:30:30,979 --> 00:30:32,147
resilience in those brick

754
00:30:32,147 --> 00:30:33,948
pavers, and we can probably

755
00:30:33,948 --> 00:30:36,417
make them a lot more resilient.

756
00:30:36,417 --> 00:30:37,585
If you follow the advice of

757
00:30:37,585 --> 00:30:41,185
some of the people that have

758
00:30:41,456 --> 00:30:45,590
come to talk to you before, but

759
00:30:45,590 --> 00:30:47,128
certainly by putting paving or

760
00:30:47,128 --> 00:30:49,364
stamped concrete to replace the

761
00:30:49,364 --> 00:30:50,832
brick pavers, that's going

762
00:30:50,832 --> 00:30:52,300
backwards instead of helping

763
00:30:52,300 --> 00:30:54,769
resiliency, which is what we're

764
00:30:54,769 --> 00:30:56,604
trying to deal with here in Key

765
00:30:56,604 --> 00:30:58,774
Biscayne, you're making it less

766
00:30:58,774 --> 00:31:01,174
resilient. So please think

767
00:31:01,276 --> 00:31:04,212
about, you know, approve the

768
00:31:04,212 --> 00:31:06,681
project, but stop them from

769
00:31:06,681 --> 00:31:10,251
from paving over our brick, our

770
00:31:10,251 --> 00:31:12,651
brick paver roundabouts. Second

771
00:31:16,725 --> 00:31:19,294
item is ten c, which is the,

772
00:31:19,294 --> 00:31:21,429
the resolution to approve the

773
00:31:21,429 --> 00:31:24,298
site plan for storm water pump

774
00:31:24,298 --> 00:31:26,468
station and a backup generator.

775
00:31:26,468 --> 00:31:29,337
We don't need a backup

776
00:31:29,337 --> 00:31:30,805
generator. All we need is

777
00:31:30,805 --> 00:31:32,206
undergrounding our utilities,

778
00:31:32,206 --> 00:31:34,409
which we should have done ten

779
00:31:34,409 --> 00:31:36,644
years ago and which we still

780
00:31:36,644 --> 00:31:38,713
have not started, and which has

781
00:31:38,713 --> 00:31:40,982
to start as soon as possible,

782
00:31:40,982 --> 00:31:44,485
either with this council or for

783
00:31:44,485 --> 00:31:46,621
the next council for sure. So I

784
00:31:46,621 --> 00:31:48,790
can only tell you that this

785
00:31:48,790 --> 00:31:50,225
backup generators, once you

786
00:31:50,225 --> 00:31:52,225
underground utilities, it's

787
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,595
only going to be turned on

788
00:31:54,595 --> 00:31:55,763
whenever you're testing it. So

789
00:31:55,763 --> 00:31:57,990
you're spending all this money,

790
00:31:57,990 --> 00:31:58,900
and I don't want to hear that

791
00:31:58,900 --> 00:31:59,901
it comes from a grant and

792
00:31:59,901 --> 00:32:01,402
whatever, because grant is

793
00:32:01,402 --> 00:32:03,171
still tax money. You know,

794
00:32:03,171 --> 00:32:04,606
people have to pay taxes in

795
00:32:04,606 --> 00:32:06,441
order for grants to become

796
00:32:06,441 --> 00:32:08,310
grants. Let's not waste our

797
00:32:08,310 --> 00:32:10,440
money. Let's use it wisely. We

798
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,580
have a lot of things that we

799
00:32:12,580 --> 00:32:14,349
need to spend money on. Please

800
00:32:14,349 --> 00:32:16,151
don't approve a backup

801
00:32:16,151 --> 00:32:17,953
generator because then that

802
00:32:17,953 --> 00:32:20,121
sets a precedent. And then I'm

803
00:32:20,121 --> 00:32:23,121
going to see the projects

804
00:32:24,250 --> 00:32:25,527
coming up for for the git

805
00:32:25,527 --> 00:32:26,962
proposals with the backup

806
00:32:26,962 --> 00:32:29,531
generator at each at each

807
00:32:29,531 --> 00:32:31,332
particular. Well, that is not

808
00:32:31,332 --> 00:32:33,434
the way we should we should go

809
00:32:33,434 --> 00:32:35,203
about it. I think London knows

810
00:32:35,203 --> 00:32:38,803
about it as much as anybody

811
00:32:39,641 --> 00:32:41,342
else. My last item is ten d and

812
00:32:41,342 --> 00:32:44,342
that's probably the one that's

813
00:32:44,579 --> 00:32:47,482
dearest to my heart, because

814
00:32:47,482 --> 00:32:49,451
Aecom and Stantec, two

815
00:32:49,451 --> 00:32:51,786
companies that we have that we

816
00:32:51,786 --> 00:32:53,540
have had in the past, be our

817
00:32:53,540 --> 00:32:56,540
consultants and who have failed

818
00:32:56,491 --> 00:32:57,492
us in the past. And now we are

819
00:32:57,492 --> 00:32:59,892
proposing that they continue

820
00:33:00,940 --> 00:33:02,597
being our consultants. I just

821
00:33:02,597 --> 00:33:03,397
don't understand why our

822
00:33:03,397 --> 00:33:05,467
management is doing with this.

823
00:33:05,467 --> 00:33:08,369
And I don't know who it was

824
00:33:08,369 --> 00:33:10,538
that the proposed these as as

825
00:33:10,538 --> 00:33:11,973
proper consultants, but for

826
00:33:11,973 --> 00:33:15,573
sure. Stanton. I was on the

827
00:33:15,944 --> 00:33:18,790
council when Stantec missed,

828
00:33:18,790 --> 00:33:20,480
designed our village green and

829
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:21,650
we had to tear it back up and.

830
00:33:21,650 --> 00:33:23,818
And unfortunately, you know,

831
00:33:23,818 --> 00:33:25,253
MR. Kaplan and I had to, you

832
00:33:25,253 --> 00:33:27,455
know, do everything that we

833
00:33:27,455 --> 00:33:31,655
didn't want to do and approve a,

834
00:33:31,792 --> 00:33:33,929
an artificial turf. But we they

835
00:33:33,929 --> 00:33:36,929
failed us before Aecom failed

836
00:33:37,131 --> 00:33:38,132
us. Just recently, we spent

837
00:33:38,132 --> 00:33:40,340
$8.5 million that we're

838
00:33:40,340 --> 00:33:42,970
throwing down the drain because

839
00:33:42,970 --> 00:33:44,305
they missed designed something

840
00:33:44,305 --> 00:33:45,306
they they didn't MISS Design it.

841
00:33:45,306 --> 00:33:46,441
They just designed something

842
00:33:46,441 --> 00:33:47,942
that the village keeps saying

843
00:33:47,942 --> 00:33:49,110
would never have approved. So

844
00:33:49,110 --> 00:33:52,110
thank you. Please, please look

845
00:33:55,850 --> 00:33:59,450
into that before you. Thank you.

846
00:34:01,288 --> 00:34:03,458
Mike Davey. Motion to adjourn.

847
00:34:03,458 --> 00:34:05,260
There you go. See? Finally

848
00:34:05,260 --> 00:34:06,961
getting it. Second Mike Davey,

849
00:34:06,961 --> 00:34:08,162
50 Ocean Lane Drive. I'm sure

850
00:34:08,162 --> 00:34:09,964
this is going to be a quick

851
00:34:09,964 --> 00:34:11,366
meeting because we've got judge

852
00:34:11,366 --> 00:34:13,868
here and he never lengthens

853
00:34:13,868 --> 00:34:15,300
meetings. Thank you all. Now I

854
00:34:15,300 --> 00:34:16,805
just came here to remind

855
00:34:16,805 --> 00:34:17,905
everybody we're at first of all

856
00:34:17,905 --> 00:34:18,940
congratulations to all of you

857
00:34:18,940 --> 00:34:21,443
who qualified to run for

858
00:34:21,443 --> 00:34:22,878
council. And my condolences.

859
00:34:22,878 --> 00:34:23,945
You know, we do appreciate it.

860
00:34:23,945 --> 00:34:25,747
It's important that we continue

861
00:34:25,747 --> 00:34:27,915
to have good people stand up to

862
00:34:27,915 --> 00:34:29,383
run this village, because local

863
00:34:29,383 --> 00:34:30,785
government is the most

864
00:34:30,785 --> 00:34:32,420
important form of government,

865
00:34:32,420 --> 00:34:33,688
and it's where you can have the

866
00:34:33,688 --> 00:34:35,823
biggest impact. I'm really here

867
00:34:35,823 --> 00:34:37,291
to speak about the property tax

868
00:34:37,291 --> 00:34:39,600
amendment. I think the village

869
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:40,529
needs to take a position on it.

870
00:34:40,529 --> 00:34:42,263
I am strongly against it. I

871
00:34:42,263 --> 00:34:43,765
think it's a bad idea. If we

872
00:34:43,765 --> 00:34:45,166
want to investigate property

873
00:34:45,166 --> 00:34:46,267
taxes in the state of Florida,

874
00:34:46,267 --> 00:34:47,735
we have the opportunity this

875
00:34:47,735 --> 00:34:48,769
year. There's the the tax

876
00:34:48,769 --> 00:34:50,238
commission or committee they're

877
00:34:50,238 --> 00:34:52,139
forming up in Tallahassee that

878
00:34:52,139 --> 00:34:54,509
can take a look at smart ways

879
00:34:54,509 --> 00:34:55,643
to address inequalities or

880
00:34:55,643 --> 00:34:57,812
inefficiencies in our property

881
00:34:57,812 --> 00:34:59,581
tax system. A political theater

882
00:34:59,581 --> 00:35:00,682
is not how you want to do

883
00:35:00,682 --> 00:35:02,350
things, although we do that

884
00:35:02,350 --> 00:35:04,185
often in the state of Florida.

885
00:35:04,185 --> 00:35:05,319
So I would advocate that we get

886
00:35:05,319 --> 00:35:07,488
out, we start educating people

887
00:35:07,488 --> 00:35:08,723
about what it means. And, and

888
00:35:08,723 --> 00:35:10,591
we do something because it's

889
00:35:10,591 --> 00:35:12,193
going to hurt us a little bit.

890
00:35:12,193 --> 00:35:12,994
But when it hurts other

891
00:35:12,994 --> 00:35:14,662
communities in the county and

892
00:35:14,662 --> 00:35:15,863
the state, that's going to come

893
00:35:15,863 --> 00:35:18,300
back on us. And the fact is,

894
00:35:18,300 --> 00:35:20,468
this property tax amendment is

895
00:35:20,468 --> 00:35:22,237
not intended to help the

896
00:35:22,237 --> 00:35:23,538
taxpayers of Florida. It's

897
00:35:23,538 --> 00:35:25,240
intended to help the lobbyists

898
00:35:25,240 --> 00:35:27,675
of Florida. And so we have to

899
00:35:27,675 --> 00:35:28,776
stand up for the taxpayers and

900
00:35:28,776 --> 00:35:29,878
get them educated so they

901
00:35:29,878 --> 00:35:32,278
understand what's coming at

902
00:35:32,313 --> 00:35:34,810
them in 70 days on NOVEMBER 3rd.

903
00:35:34,810 --> 00:35:38,281
Thank you all. I'm going to go

904
00:35:39,154 --> 00:35:42,154
home. Thank you, thank you.

905
00:35:47,940 --> 00:35:49,494
Brett Moss. Good evening

906
00:35:51,399 --> 00:35:53,799
Council Brett Moss. 152 West

907
00:35:53,901 --> 00:35:55,904
Mashta Drive. I'm here to speak

908
00:35:55,904 --> 00:35:57,380
about it or to think about it a

909
00:35:57,380 --> 00:35:59,707
little bit. I'm still looking

910
00:35:59,707 --> 00:36:02,243
at my stuff here. I'm speaking

911
00:36:02,243 --> 00:36:05,843
about two items similar to Luis

912
00:36:06,547 --> 00:36:07,782
de la Cruz's items. Ten d the

913
00:36:07,782 --> 00:36:10,151
cna that you guys are going to

914
00:36:10,151 --> 00:36:12,120
be talking about tonight. I

915
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,222
know a lot of the firms that

916
00:36:14,222 --> 00:36:15,990
submitted the bids in there,

917
00:36:15,990 --> 00:36:18,426
and I looked over them, a lot

918
00:36:18,426 --> 00:36:19,561
of small and midsize local

919
00:36:19,561 --> 00:36:21,229
firms that are actually

920
00:36:21,229 --> 00:36:22,430
excellent firms that can do a

921
00:36:22,430 --> 00:36:24,899
lot of this work. It's not a

922
00:36:24,899 --> 00:36:26,534
surprise to me that many of

923
00:36:26,534 --> 00:36:28,360
them did not make it to the

924
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:29,804
short list. What happens in

925
00:36:29,804 --> 00:36:31,272
these situations is that these

926
00:36:31,272 --> 00:36:33,410
national firms, which I'm not

927
00:36:33,410 --> 00:36:34,910
saying are bad and it's okay to

928
00:36:34,910 --> 00:36:36,770
have them on there, but the

929
00:36:36,770 --> 00:36:37,779
national firms have a ton of

930
00:36:37,779 --> 00:36:39,547
money lobbying, power marketing.

931
00:36:39,547 --> 00:36:41,150
They come in with big

932
00:36:41,150 --> 00:36:42,183
presentations and they wow

933
00:36:42,183 --> 00:36:43,584
everybody. The smaller firms,

934
00:36:43,584 --> 00:36:45,253
the local firms, don't put

935
00:36:45,253 --> 00:36:46,921
their money into that as much.

936
00:36:46,921 --> 00:36:48,556
They put it into the workers

937
00:36:48,556 --> 00:36:50,592
and the results of what comes

938
00:36:50,592 --> 00:36:52,861
out. So it's not a surprise to

939
00:36:52,861 --> 00:36:55,861
me that that's what happened.

940
00:36:56,164 --> 00:36:58,330
But it's a bit bizarre to me

941
00:36:58,330 --> 00:37:00,670
that we have firms that have

942
00:37:00,670 --> 00:37:01,902
worked with us in the past,

943
00:37:01,902 --> 00:37:03,638
recently, within the last few

944
00:37:03,638 --> 00:37:04,840
months, to others in the past,

945
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,975
with owners who actually live

946
00:37:06,975 --> 00:37:08,643
in Key Biscayne, who have put

947
00:37:08,643 --> 00:37:10,578
their name in there and did not

948
00:37:10,578 --> 00:37:13,114
even make it to the short list

949
00:37:13,114 --> 00:37:14,883
of the top six. I think that

950
00:37:14,883 --> 00:37:16,818
Key Biscayne well, first, i

951
00:37:16,818 --> 00:37:17,952
just want to make sure you guys

952
00:37:17,952 --> 00:37:19,200
have a deep discussion about

953
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:20,155
this tonight. And I believe

954
00:37:20,155 --> 00:37:21,823
that Key Biscayne should be

955
00:37:21,823 --> 00:37:23,158
much more inclusive to local

956
00:37:23,158 --> 00:37:24,559
firms. It helps our community,

957
00:37:24,559 --> 00:37:26,227
and it also benefits Key

958
00:37:26,227 --> 00:37:27,795
Biscayne as well. If you guys

959
00:37:27,795 --> 00:37:29,930
do that. The second one is on

960
00:37:29,930 --> 00:37:32,801
nine a. The proposed stamped

961
00:37:32,801 --> 00:37:34,268
asphalt on Harbor. I am totally

962
00:37:34,268 --> 00:37:36,771
against this. I don't think

963
00:37:36,771 --> 00:37:39,771
this meets our expectations of

964
00:37:40,410 --> 00:37:41,810
quality. This is cheap. It's. I

965
00:37:41,810 --> 00:37:43,278
can tell you right now that

966
00:37:43,278 --> 00:37:44,645
Brickell actually did this for

967
00:37:44,645 --> 00:37:46,848
every single one of their

968
00:37:46,848 --> 00:37:48,349
crosswalks on Brickell Avenue,

969
00:37:48,349 --> 00:37:50,151
and I watched all of them fail.

970
00:37:50,151 --> 00:37:52,253
They all broke, they got

971
00:37:52,253 --> 00:37:53,688
patched, they looked horrible.

972
00:37:53,688 --> 00:37:54,889
And three years ago, they

973
00:37:54,889 --> 00:37:56,825
ripped them all up. And what do

974
00:37:56,825 --> 00:37:58,726
you think they put in there?

975
00:37:58,726 --> 00:38:00,862
They put the pavers back. We've

976
00:38:00,862 --> 00:38:03,465
had those pavers there for 20

977
00:38:03,465 --> 00:38:05,330
plus years. They don't even

978
00:38:05,330 --> 00:38:06,634
need to be removed. They just

979
00:38:06,634 --> 00:38:10,639
need to be taken out and reset

980
00:38:10,639 --> 00:38:13,642
with a correct base on them.

981
00:38:13,642 --> 00:38:15,576
And I agree as well with I just

982
00:38:15,576 --> 00:38:16,711
want to add one other thing is

983
00:38:16,711 --> 00:38:17,845
that we don't have busses

984
00:38:17,845 --> 00:38:20,245
traveling out there every

985
00:38:20,315 --> 00:38:21,716
single hour, every day as we

986
00:38:21,716 --> 00:38:23,718
experienced before, so we will

987
00:38:23,718 --> 00:38:25,420
have less use on it. But I do

988
00:38:25,420 --> 00:38:27,888
agree with what Luis said as

989
00:38:27,888 --> 00:38:29,190
well. I think all the

990
00:38:29,190 --> 00:38:30,524
intersections should be reset.

991
00:38:30,524 --> 00:38:32,560
I think we should take one of

992
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,463
them. Maybe Wes would drive and

993
00:38:35,463 --> 00:38:37,231
do a pervious test of a

994
00:38:37,231 --> 00:38:38,466
pervious pavers and see how it

995
00:38:38,466 --> 00:38:40,301
does over a couple of years,

996
00:38:40,301 --> 00:38:42,169
and maybe if it works, we put

997
00:38:42,169 --> 00:38:43,371
that in our future plan to

998
00:38:43,371 --> 00:38:45,173
reset the other ones like that.

999
00:38:45,173 --> 00:38:48,430
If it doesn't work, we just

1000
00:38:48,430 --> 00:38:50,211
have to repair one. So again, i

1001
00:38:50,211 --> 00:38:51,646
hope that you guys can meet our

1002
00:38:51,646 --> 00:38:53,448
expectations of quality. I do

1003
00:38:53,448 --> 00:38:57,480
not agree with going with a

1004
00:38:57,385 --> 00:38:59,785
cheap stamped asphalt. Thank

1005
00:39:08,229 --> 00:39:10,310
you, thank you. Enrique Lopez.

1006
00:39:10,310 --> 00:39:11,833
Hello, members of the council.

1007
00:39:11,833 --> 00:39:13,601
Mayor. Vice mayor. My name is

1008
00:39:13,601 --> 00:39:15,601
Enrique Lopez. 340 Glenridge

1009
00:39:16,137 --> 00:39:17,338
Road. Very quickly, I'm here to

1010
00:39:17,338 --> 00:39:19,507
propose that we go ahead with

1011
00:39:19,507 --> 00:39:21,876
the redevelopment of 303 Ellen

1012
00:39:21,876 --> 00:39:23,945
Drive, item seven e in the

1013
00:39:23,945 --> 00:39:25,479
agenda, I think would be a

1014
00:39:25,479 --> 00:39:28,349
great addition to the village.

1015
00:39:28,349 --> 00:39:29,851
It will bring a much needed tax

1016
00:39:29,851 --> 00:39:32,851
dollars. It's by a well-known

1017
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:34,855
local developer, and I think I

1018
00:39:34,855 --> 00:39:36,992
don't see any issue with not

1019
00:39:36,992 --> 00:39:40,592
going ahead with it. Thank you,

1020
00:39:50,871 --> 00:39:53,871
thank you. Martin. Good evening.

1021
00:39:54,750 --> 00:39:56,110
Good evening, 400. I'm also

1022
00:39:56,110 --> 00:39:59,110
here to support the development

1023
00:39:59,714 --> 00:40:01,415
of a Galen Drive. And I believe

1024
00:40:01,415 --> 00:40:02,917
that Walter, as a developer is

1025
00:40:02,917 --> 00:40:05,850
a is a great addition. And he

1026
00:40:05,850 --> 00:40:07,222
will push this in the right way.

1027
00:40:07,222 --> 00:40:09,757
I think it will bring more

1028
00:40:09,757 --> 00:40:11,926
taxes to the city and it will

1029
00:40:11,926 --> 00:40:14,926
help also the local community

1030
00:40:15,163 --> 00:40:18,763
here as well. Thank you, thank

1031
00:40:30,978 --> 00:40:33,978
you. Good evening everyone. My

1032
00:40:34,615 --> 00:40:37,150
name is 781 Brandon Boulevard.

1033
00:40:37,218 --> 00:40:39,721
I have been a resident for more

1034
00:40:39,721 --> 00:40:43,257
than 25 years now. I'm here to

1035
00:40:43,257 --> 00:40:45,393
speak about 7303 Galen Drive.

1036
00:40:45,393 --> 00:40:46,895
My professional experience has

1037
00:40:46,895 --> 00:40:48,262
given me a strong understanding

1038
00:40:48,262 --> 00:40:50,662
of development and urban

1039
00:40:50,832 --> 00:40:52,233
planning, and this proposal in

1040
00:40:52,233 --> 00:40:54,233
particular requires no

1041
00:40:54,435 --> 00:40:55,303
additional density, yet it

1042
00:40:55,303 --> 00:40:56,604
would significantly increase

1043
00:40:56,604 --> 00:40:58,706
the property's contribution to

1044
00:40:58,706 --> 00:40:59,774
the tax base, replacing the

1045
00:40:59,774 --> 00:41:01,976
existing units with higher

1046
00:41:01,976 --> 00:41:02,944
quality residences help

1047
00:41:02,944 --> 00:41:04,512
alleviate flooding on the

1048
00:41:04,512 --> 00:41:06,281
streets and enhance surrounding

1049
00:41:06,281 --> 00:41:08,681
property taxes or property

1050
00:41:09,183 --> 00:41:10,618
values. Actually, the existing

1051
00:41:10,618 --> 00:41:11,685
building holds no meaningful

1052
00:41:11,685 --> 00:41:13,880
historical, architectural and

1053
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:15,488
cultural significance for the

1054
00:41:15,623 --> 00:41:18,623
community. It belongs to a

1055
00:41:18,926 --> 00:41:19,994
different era, actually, and by

1056
00:41:19,994 --> 00:41:21,462
replacing a short term rental

1057
00:41:21,462 --> 00:41:23,565
with permanent residences, the

1058
00:41:23,565 --> 00:41:25,965
project will reduce traffic

1059
00:41:26,467 --> 00:41:28,603
noise and bring more year round

1060
00:41:28,603 --> 00:41:30,710
residents to Biscayne and

1061
00:41:30,710 --> 00:41:32,471
strengthening the sense of

1062
00:41:32,606 --> 00:41:33,608
community of the village.

1063
00:41:33,608 --> 00:41:34,742
Overall, the project represents

1064
00:41:34,742 --> 00:41:36,177
a positive step for the

1065
00:41:36,177 --> 00:41:38,679
community and deserves to be

1066
00:41:38,679 --> 00:41:41,679
evaluated on its own merits.

1067
00:41:49,157 --> 00:41:52,157
Thank you, thank you. Looks

1068
00:42:00,668 --> 00:42:02,804
like Lucas or Luis Capurro. Hi.

1069
00:42:02,804 --> 00:42:04,239
Good evening, mayor and council

1070
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:05,506
members. My name is Lucas

1071
00:42:05,506 --> 00:42:07,108
Capurro and I am the developer

1072
00:42:07,108 --> 00:42:08,576
of Casa on Sunrise Drive. I

1073
00:42:08,576 --> 00:42:10,344
believe the project. Will your

1074
00:42:10,344 --> 00:42:12,914
address please? Sorry. And your

1075
00:42:12,914 --> 00:42:14,914
address, please? 202 Sunrise

1076
00:42:15,830 --> 00:42:17,919
Drive. Thank you. I believe

1077
00:42:17,919 --> 00:42:19,453
this project will be a positive

1078
00:42:19,453 --> 00:42:20,789
addition to the village. It

1079
00:42:20,789 --> 00:42:22,223
will improve the neighborhood,

1080
00:42:22,223 --> 00:42:24,623
increase the value of

1081
00:42:24,726 --> 00:42:26,726
surrounding properties and

1082
00:42:26,928 --> 00:42:29,928
strengthen the local tax base.

1083
00:42:38,720 --> 00:42:41,720
Thank you, thank you. Bridget.

1084
00:42:42,430 --> 00:42:43,878
One name. Last name. Everybody

1085
00:42:43,878 --> 00:42:45,279
knows Bridget. Oh, thank you,

1086
00:42:45,279 --> 00:42:47,481
MR. Mayor. Good evening, MR.

1087
00:42:47,481 --> 00:42:48,582
Mayor. Vice mayor, Council

1088
00:42:48,582 --> 00:42:49,817
members, first of all, thank

1089
00:42:49,817 --> 00:42:51,820
you so much for everything you

1090
00:42:51,820 --> 00:42:54,322
do for your name and address.

1091
00:42:54,322 --> 00:42:55,757
931 Harbor Drive, Bridget

1092
00:42:55,757 --> 00:42:57,558
Nachtigall. Thank you. And I've

1093
00:42:57,558 --> 00:43:00,395
been in Key Biscayne residence

1094
00:43:00,395 --> 00:43:03,310
since 1982. I'm here to support

1095
00:43:03,310 --> 00:43:04,732
the project for 303 Galen. We

1096
00:43:04,732 --> 00:43:06,534
can preserve what makes our

1097
00:43:06,534 --> 00:43:07,935
community special. We still.

1098
00:43:07,935 --> 00:43:09,360
Allowing it to evolve. This

1099
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:11,206
project is an opportunity to

1100
00:43:11,206 --> 00:43:13,374
build something safer, stronger,

1101
00:43:13,374 --> 00:43:14,809
and better prepared for our

1102
00:43:14,809 --> 00:43:15,876
future. All of us. We need to

1103
00:43:15,876 --> 00:43:17,780
think about safety and

1104
00:43:17,780 --> 00:43:18,747
hurricane protection. We need

1105
00:43:18,747 --> 00:43:20,915
to think about flooding and

1106
00:43:20,915 --> 00:43:22,484
resilience. And we have to look

1107
00:43:22,484 --> 00:43:24,185
around Miami because we're part

1108
00:43:24,185 --> 00:43:25,720
of Miami and see how this city

1109
00:43:25,720 --> 00:43:27,455
is growing everywhere. We need

1110
00:43:27,455 --> 00:43:29,256
to grow. I mean, we all want to

1111
00:43:29,256 --> 00:43:30,424
keep our Paradise Island. I

1112
00:43:30,424 --> 00:43:32,326
don't want to live anywhere in

1113
00:43:32,326 --> 00:43:34,280
Miami. And I think all of you

1114
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:35,463
know, I'm a real estate agent.

1115
00:43:35,463 --> 00:43:37,231
I've been doing it for 37 years.

1116
00:43:37,231 --> 00:43:38,366
I think I've sold all over

1117
00:43:38,366 --> 00:43:39,400
Miami, and I wouldn't live

1118
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,536
anywhere but this beautiful

1119
00:43:41,536 --> 00:43:42,870
island. But it's part of life.

1120
00:43:42,870 --> 00:43:44,372
There's construction everywhere.

1121
00:43:44,372 --> 00:43:45,673
There's new houses everywhere

1122
00:43:45,673 --> 00:43:47,241
going up. And there's no reason

1123
00:43:47,241 --> 00:43:48,709
why this developer who wants to

1124
00:43:48,709 --> 00:43:50,411
invest in our island and is

1125
00:43:50,411 --> 00:43:51,913
going to do a great job,

1126
00:43:51,913 --> 00:43:55,513
wouldn't be allowed to do so.

1127
00:44:00,888 --> 00:44:03,888
So thank you, thank you.

1128
00:44:09,363 --> 00:44:11,666
Roberto de Leon. Hello. Robbie

1129
00:44:11,666 --> 00:44:14,666
de Leon 101 would drive. I'm

1130
00:44:14,969 --> 00:44:16,337
here in support for 303. Galen.

1131
00:44:16,337 --> 00:44:19,207
I believe we should encourage

1132
00:44:19,207 --> 00:44:21,409
new builders to knock down

1133
00:44:21,409 --> 00:44:23,809
develop these older buildings

1134
00:44:24,278 --> 00:44:26,113
instead of remodeling non

1135
00:44:26,113 --> 00:44:28,113
conforming buildings. And

1136
00:44:36,491 --> 00:44:40,910
that's it. Thank you, thank you.

1137
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,208
Alejandro Jimenez. Good evening.

1138
00:44:54,208 --> 00:44:55,543
Alejandro Jimenez from Spain,

1139
00:44:55,543 --> 00:44:58,543
resident here in Key Biscayne

1140
00:44:58,846 --> 00:45:01,716
for the last 29 years, 25 Grand

1141
00:45:01,716 --> 00:45:04,585
Bay state. I'm here to support

1142
00:45:04,585 --> 00:45:06,387
303 Galen development. I agree

1143
00:45:06,387 --> 00:45:08,890
that we need to embellish our

1144
00:45:08,890 --> 00:45:10,358
our community, our city. Miami

1145
00:45:10,358 --> 00:45:11,792
is growing. Like we said, I

1146
00:45:11,792 --> 00:45:13,694
think we have to keep in part

1147
00:45:13,694 --> 00:45:16,864
with it, and certainly it will

1148
00:45:16,864 --> 00:45:19,801
bring a lot of value to annex

1149
00:45:19,801 --> 00:45:22,801
properties. Thank you so much.

1150
00:45:35,583 --> 00:45:37,752
Thank you. Lucas. You're close.

1151
00:45:37,752 --> 00:45:40,254
Very close. How are you? Good

1152
00:45:40,254 --> 00:45:43,457
night. My name is Lucas. It's

1153
00:45:43,457 --> 00:45:44,893
151 Crandon Boulevard, unit 334.

1154
00:45:44,893 --> 00:45:46,728
I'm here tonight to speak in

1155
00:45:46,728 --> 00:45:48,896
favor of the development of 303

1156
00:45:48,896 --> 00:45:50,297
Gallant Drive. I live in the

1157
00:45:50,297 --> 00:45:51,799
Sunrise Gallant area for many

1158
00:45:51,799 --> 00:45:53,167
years, and I care deeply about

1159
00:45:53,167 --> 00:45:55,300
what happens in that part of

1160
00:45:55,300 --> 00:45:56,804
the island. And I care about

1161
00:45:56,804 --> 00:45:58,572
the future of the island as a

1162
00:45:58,572 --> 00:46:00,408
whole. I understand, I

1163
00:46:00,408 --> 00:46:01,842
understand that change can be

1164
00:46:01,842 --> 00:46:03,644
difficult here. Key Biscayne is

1165
00:46:03,644 --> 00:46:06,514
a special. We all have memories

1166
00:46:06,514 --> 00:46:07,615
from ten, 20, 30, 40 years, and

1167
00:46:07,615 --> 00:46:09,750
naturally, we want to protect

1168
00:46:09,750 --> 00:46:13,200
the things that made us fall in

1169
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:14,188
love with this island. But that

1170
00:46:14,188 --> 00:46:15,890
nostalgia is human, and we tend

1171
00:46:15,890 --> 00:46:18,890
to remember the past better,

1172
00:46:19,126 --> 00:46:21,662
simpler, and more familiar by

1173
00:46:21,662 --> 00:46:23,640
representing the character of

1174
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:25,464
Biscayne, we cannot be

1175
00:46:25,733 --> 00:46:27,735
prevented from evolving. Many

1176
00:46:27,735 --> 00:46:29,537
of the buildings in sunrise and

1177
00:46:29,537 --> 00:46:32,139
sunrise and Galen are now

1178
00:46:32,139 --> 00:46:33,508
decades old. They belong from

1179
00:46:33,508 --> 00:46:35,508
another era construction,

1180
00:46:35,643 --> 00:46:37,912
design and planning. At some

1181
00:46:37,912 --> 00:46:39,280
point, responsible development

1182
00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:40,582
is not a threat to our

1183
00:46:40,582 --> 00:46:42,182
community. It's an investment

1184
00:46:42,182 --> 00:46:45,386
for our community and for our

1185
00:46:45,386 --> 00:46:47,188
future. 3039 represents an

1186
00:46:47,188 --> 00:46:49,356
opportunity, an opportunity to

1187
00:46:49,356 --> 00:46:51,756
improve this area, modernize

1188
00:46:52,961 --> 00:46:54,280
our housing stock, enhance

1189
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:55,229
streetscape, and demonstrate

1190
00:46:55,229 --> 00:46:56,764
that Key Biscayne can move

1191
00:46:56,764 --> 00:46:58,733
forward while still protecting

1192
00:46:58,733 --> 00:47:01,602
the character that makes this

1193
00:47:01,602 --> 00:47:04,200
village unique. Sometimes I

1194
00:47:04,472 --> 00:47:05,940
felt I feel that the village.

1195
00:47:05,940 --> 00:47:07,876
In the village, we spend so

1196
00:47:07,876 --> 00:47:10,611
much time trying to safeguard

1197
00:47:10,611 --> 00:47:12,413
the past that we make it

1198
00:47:12,413 --> 00:47:14,813
unnecessary, difficult to build

1199
00:47:15,482 --> 00:47:17,785
the future. And I understand

1200
00:47:17,785 --> 00:47:19,253
the instinct, the instinct. We

1201
00:47:19,253 --> 00:47:21,550
may also remember that when

1202
00:47:21,550 --> 00:47:22,690
going when going to blockbuster,

1203
00:47:22,690 --> 00:47:24,292
it was a great. On a Friday

1204
00:47:24,292 --> 00:47:26,127
night. But now the world has

1205
00:47:26,127 --> 00:47:27,295
changed and we use Netflix. It

1206
00:47:27,295 --> 00:47:29,630
doesn't mean that the memories

1207
00:47:29,630 --> 00:47:30,397
were bad, it simply means that

1208
00:47:30,397 --> 00:47:32,397
the communities and

1209
00:47:32,466 --> 00:47:35,235
technologies and the way of

1210
00:47:35,235 --> 00:47:37,571
life have evolved. Key Biscayne

1211
00:47:37,571 --> 00:47:39,440
has to evolve to. Our

1212
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:40,841
responsibility should not be to

1213
00:47:40,841 --> 00:47:44,780
stop change. It should be to

1214
00:47:44,780 --> 00:47:45,790
make sure change is thoughtful,

1215
00:47:45,790 --> 00:47:47,479
responsible and beneficial for

1216
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:49,149
the community. I believe 303

1217
00:47:49,149 --> 00:47:50,552
gallon drive is an opportunity

1218
00:47:50,552 --> 00:47:52,354
for this council to demonstrate

1219
00:47:52,354 --> 00:47:55,954
that we can respect the past

1220
00:47:57,240 --> 00:48:00,261
without being trapped by it. We

1221
00:48:00,261 --> 00:48:01,729
can preserve what we can

1222
00:48:01,729 --> 00:48:03,164
preserve what makes Biscayne

1223
00:48:03,164 --> 00:48:04,632
special, what allowing the

1224
00:48:04,632 --> 00:48:07,101
village to enter into the next

1225
00:48:07,101 --> 00:48:08,902
chapter. So I encourage you to,

1226
00:48:08,902 --> 00:48:10,705
to, to take a look to the

1227
00:48:10,705 --> 00:48:13,241
project, not simply as another

1228
00:48:13,241 --> 00:48:15,420
development proposal, but as an

1229
00:48:15,420 --> 00:48:16,510
opportunity for improvement,

1230
00:48:16,510 --> 00:48:18,510
modernization, and responsible

1231
00:48:20,415 --> 00:48:23,415
evolution of our island. Thank

1232
00:48:27,988 --> 00:48:30,388
you, thank you. Gonzalo

1233
00:48:38,566 --> 00:48:40,367
Fernandez del Castillo. Hello,

1234
00:48:40,367 --> 00:48:42,269
Everyone. Gonzalo. Fernando del

1235
00:48:42,269 --> 00:48:44,272
Castillo. I've been a resident

1236
00:48:44,272 --> 00:48:46,440
in Key Biscayne for the last 15.

1237
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:48,609
Please, for the record, 345

1238
00:48:48,609 --> 00:48:50,144
Harbor Lane. Thank you. And

1239
00:48:50,144 --> 00:48:52,947
this is my second property that

1240
00:48:52,947 --> 00:48:55,490
I buy in the key. And I'm

1241
00:48:55,490 --> 00:48:56,183
living my American dream. I'm

1242
00:48:56,183 --> 00:48:58,285
putting all my money in this

1243
00:48:58,285 --> 00:49:00,154
city. And I believe that all

1244
00:49:00,154 --> 00:49:01,923
infrastructure should come to a

1245
00:49:01,923 --> 00:49:04,458
renewal at one point. I'm in

1246
00:49:04,458 --> 00:49:05,526
favor of 303 gallon drive as

1247
00:49:05,526 --> 00:49:07,328
the house that I'm buying right

1248
00:49:07,328 --> 00:49:08,496
now, and I'm building, and I'm

1249
00:49:08,496 --> 00:49:10,198
going to bring more taxes to

1250
00:49:10,198 --> 00:49:11,632
the city. I believe that all

1251
00:49:11,632 --> 00:49:13,401
the infrastructure in this city

1252
00:49:13,401 --> 00:49:15,236
should be renewed at one point,

1253
00:49:15,236 --> 00:49:16,637
and we should support this

1254
00:49:16,637 --> 00:49:18,390
developers. So we have new

1255
00:49:18,390 --> 00:49:19,940
infrastructure in the city.

1256
00:49:19,940 --> 00:49:21,342
This building, this new

1257
00:49:21,342 --> 00:49:23,377
infrastructure will help us all.

1258
00:49:23,377 --> 00:49:24,578
And hopefully my house in the

1259
00:49:24,578 --> 00:49:25,679
future will be building.

1260
00:49:25,679 --> 00:49:27,114
Bringing this new

1261
00:49:27,114 --> 00:49:28,582
infrastructure to the city will

1262
00:49:28,582 --> 00:49:30,385
receive more taxpayers on the

1263
00:49:30,385 --> 00:49:32,286
value of my home in the future

1264
00:49:32,286 --> 00:49:33,921
is going to be worth more. So

1265
00:49:33,921 --> 00:49:35,389
we need to renew the

1266
00:49:35,389 --> 00:49:37,925
infrastructure, and we need to

1267
00:49:37,925 --> 00:49:40,762
support developers to do new

1268
00:49:40,762 --> 00:49:43,162
infrastructure in this city.

1269
00:49:55,909 --> 00:49:57,711
Thank you. Thank you. Very.

1270
00:49:57,711 --> 00:49:59,514
Hello, Council and Mayor

1271
00:49:59,514 --> 00:50:01,282
Maurice Ferr\, 151 Crandon

1272
00:50:01,282 --> 00:50:04,185
Boulevard. I wanted to talk

1273
00:50:04,185 --> 00:50:06,320
about agenda item seven e, the

1274
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:07,454
development on 303 Galen. A lot

1275
00:50:07,454 --> 00:50:10,325
of people have already spoken

1276
00:50:10,325 --> 00:50:11,392
about it and proponent of it. I

1277
00:50:11,392 --> 00:50:12,594
wanted to give maybe a

1278
00:50:12,594 --> 00:50:14,628
different angle from my point

1279
00:50:14,628 --> 00:50:15,362
of view. I grew up on Key

1280
00:50:15,362 --> 00:50:17,531
Biscayne. I was fortunate

1281
00:50:17,531 --> 00:50:19,734
enough to be here, met my wife

1282
00:50:19,734 --> 00:50:21,469
here. We got married, ended up

1283
00:50:21,469 --> 00:50:24,469
leaving Key Biscayne, and lived

1284
00:50:25,105 --> 00:50:26,506
out outside of it. We always

1285
00:50:26,506 --> 00:50:28,750
wanted to come back to Key

1286
00:50:28,750 --> 00:50:29,510
Biscayne and live here, but it

1287
00:50:29,510 --> 00:50:31,450
was extremely difficult, and

1288
00:50:31,450 --> 00:50:32,112
one of the big reasons was

1289
00:50:32,112 --> 00:50:34,815
because of optionality. And so

1290
00:50:34,815 --> 00:50:37,685
I am for this development on

1291
00:50:37,685 --> 00:50:39,854
303 Galen, because if you look

1292
00:50:39,854 --> 00:50:41,220
down on the streets, it's

1293
00:50:41,220 --> 00:50:42,723
pretty skewed in the sense of

1294
00:50:42,723 --> 00:50:44,158
the type of apartment buildings

1295
00:50:44,158 --> 00:50:45,860
of you get some high end nice

1296
00:50:45,860 --> 00:50:48,262
ones. And then on the other

1297
00:50:48,262 --> 00:50:49,631
side, not so nice. And so being

1298
00:50:49,631 --> 00:50:51,732
given the optionality to move

1299
00:50:51,732 --> 00:50:53,167
to Key Biscayne and have these

1300
00:50:53,167 --> 00:50:54,602
choices would be greatly

1301
00:50:54,602 --> 00:50:56,136
beneficial. And I'd love for

1302
00:50:56,136 --> 00:50:57,705
other people that are going

1303
00:50:57,705 --> 00:51:00,410
through a similar situation to

1304
00:51:00,410 --> 00:51:04,241
be able to do the same. Thank

1305
00:51:07,215 --> 00:51:10,215
you. Thank you. Walter. Fortuna.

1306
00:51:12,620 --> 00:51:16,124
Yeah. You want to speak? All

1307
00:51:16,124 --> 00:51:20,324
right. We can do that. I've got

1308
00:51:25,900 --> 00:51:28,200
Cecile Sanchez. Good evening.

1309
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,200
Cecile Sanchez, 260 Cypress

1310
00:51:33,730 --> 00:51:35,977
Drive. I'm a real estate agent

1311
00:51:35,977 --> 00:51:38,377
with Fortune International. It

1312
00:51:40,314 --> 00:51:43,314
is wonderful that a developer

1313
00:51:43,617 --> 00:51:45,720
is local. Hopefully, he's going

1314
00:51:45,720 --> 00:51:49,724
to do a good job like he's done

1315
00:51:49,724 --> 00:51:52,559
in the others that he has built.

1316
00:51:52,559 --> 00:51:56,159
My question and I'm the first,

1317
00:51:56,797 --> 00:51:59,797
is what happens? Some zoning

1318
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:05,200
code variances. Are we enough

1319
00:52:07,308 --> 00:52:09,109
parking? Can we all understand

1320
00:52:09,109 --> 00:52:11,278
that that building that is.

1321
00:52:11,278 --> 00:52:14,278
There is apparently what I've

1322
00:52:15,616 --> 00:52:18,850
heard and I saw that it's time

1323
00:52:18,850 --> 00:52:20,254
for it to go. It's wonderful

1324
00:52:20,254 --> 00:52:23,257
that it could we could have a

1325
00:52:23,257 --> 00:52:24,592
new building elevated. Maybe

1326
00:52:24,592 --> 00:52:26,828
the developer, if there's an

1327
00:52:26,828 --> 00:52:29,563
issue, maybe they can work on.

1328
00:52:29,563 --> 00:52:31,398
I think there's good people

1329
00:52:31,398 --> 00:52:32,800
here that maybe they can go to

1330
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:35,800
terms. If there's anything that

1331
00:52:36,837 --> 00:52:38,239
needs to be tweaked. But we

1332
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:41,175
need to think about that. It's

1333
00:52:41,175 --> 00:52:42,910
true that most of those

1334
00:52:42,910 --> 00:52:44,110
buildings, that's where my

1335
00:52:44,110 --> 00:52:45,446
brother and my cousins, when

1336
00:52:45,446 --> 00:52:48,490
they got married, that's where

1337
00:52:48,490 --> 00:52:49,416
they started living in those

1338
00:52:49,416 --> 00:52:51,816
buildings. Maybe it's time

1339
00:52:52,190 --> 00:52:54,489
we're all getting old. It the

1340
00:52:54,489 --> 00:52:56,257
buildings do too. That's number

1341
00:52:56,257 --> 00:52:58,159
one. Number two are you talking

1342
00:52:58,159 --> 00:53:00,227
about? I told him to speak for

1343
00:53:00,227 --> 00:53:02,627
herself. No, talking about

1344
00:53:03,865 --> 00:53:07,340
myself. So, number two, I want

1345
00:53:07,340 --> 00:53:09,236
you to please look at the

1346
00:53:09,236 --> 00:53:12,236
wonderful work that Saint Agnes

1347
00:53:12,773 --> 00:53:16,373
did on the keystone pavers that

1348
00:53:17,144 --> 00:53:20,470
they just replaced or reset.

1349
00:53:20,470 --> 00:53:22,216
Think about it. Think about it.

1350
00:53:22,216 --> 00:53:23,651
For this, I saw that we have

1351
00:53:23,651 --> 00:53:25,853
here in the middle where the

1352
00:53:25,853 --> 00:53:28,853
Monaco fountain is. How long

1353
00:53:29,423 --> 00:53:33,623
are we going to keep on looking

1354
00:53:33,661 --> 00:53:35,896
at those break old, broken up

1355
00:53:35,896 --> 00:53:37,896
imitation keystone finish.

1356
00:53:38,499 --> 00:53:40,501
Please get the contractor that

1357
00:53:40,501 --> 00:53:43,370
did it in Saint Agnes. Check it.

1358
00:53:43,370 --> 00:53:46,674
I don't know, but I think it's

1359
00:53:46,674 --> 00:53:49,910
worthwhile that. Please do me a

1360
00:53:49,910 --> 00:53:51,345
favor. Save the trees. If you

1361
00:53:51,345 --> 00:53:53,481
need to work on that little

1362
00:53:53,481 --> 00:53:54,548
bumpy park. Marilyn Monroe Park,

1363
00:53:54,548 --> 00:53:56,283
whatever you want to call it.

1364
00:53:56,283 --> 00:53:58,519
Where are you going to put all

1365
00:53:58,519 --> 00:54:00,919
these contraptions? Think of

1366
00:54:03,524 --> 00:54:07,124
what? Or analyze what? Luis de

1367
00:54:07,494 --> 00:54:09,330
la Cruz said. We don't need the

1368
00:54:09,330 --> 00:54:10,765
equipment. And is it an

1369
00:54:10,765 --> 00:54:13,165
emergency? There's so many

1370
00:54:13,401 --> 00:54:16,237
things going on. We're all

1371
00:54:16,237 --> 00:54:19,237
going crazy. Sea aquarium, you

1372
00:54:21,576 --> 00:54:24,812
know. Please, can we slow down?

1373
00:54:24,812 --> 00:54:27,681
There's a new mayor coming. New

1374
00:54:27,681 --> 00:54:29,516
council. Can you wait and just

1375
00:54:29,516 --> 00:54:30,218
take it easy? Nothing is

1376
00:54:30,218 --> 00:54:32,218
happening. Thank goodness

1377
00:54:33,530 --> 00:54:35,453
there's no hurricanes coming.

1378
00:54:36,791 --> 00:54:39,791
Save the trees, please. Thank

1379
00:54:45,399 --> 00:54:46,968
you, thank you. Brad, where are

1380
00:54:46,968 --> 00:54:49,968
you? You're supposed to take

1381
00:55:02,950 --> 00:55:05,350
over already. And Adriana.

1382
00:55:07,321 --> 00:55:09,321
Adriana, 1121 Crandon Boulevard,

1383
00:55:11,625 --> 00:55:13,394
f 205. Okay. We cannot stop the

1384
00:55:13,394 --> 00:55:15,363
development and change of our

1385
00:55:15,363 --> 00:55:17,431
island. MR. De Fortuna has been

1386
00:55:17,431 --> 00:55:19,901
a resident of our island for

1387
00:55:19,901 --> 00:55:22,690
more than 30 years. I am sure

1388
00:55:22,690 --> 00:55:24,605
that his project will be made

1389
00:55:24,605 --> 00:55:26,740
with respect for our community

1390
00:55:26,740 --> 00:55:28,843
and its future. I'm sure. Let

1391
00:55:28,843 --> 00:55:33,430
me see. Because I just wrote it

1392
00:55:33,714 --> 00:55:35,349
and the telephone. Community

1393
00:55:35,349 --> 00:55:37,151
and its future. I'm sure your

1394
00:55:37,151 --> 00:55:39,320
project will be. His project

1395
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:41,489
will be better than any project

1396
00:55:41,489 --> 00:55:44,489
from a developer who doesn't

1397
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:48,692
live in our island. Thank you,

1398
00:55:56,971 --> 00:55:59,971
thank you. I'm. Having trouble

1399
00:56:03,110 --> 00:56:05,245
with this one. Mark Chatburn.

1400
00:56:05,245 --> 00:56:06,681
All right. You can read the

1401
00:56:06,681 --> 00:56:09,681
writing. Good evening. MR. Good

1402
00:56:10,284 --> 00:56:12,684
evening, council members, and

1403
00:56:13,187 --> 00:56:15,541
I'm here. I'm a resident. Mark

1404
00:56:15,541 --> 00:56:17,541
chapter 701 Crandon Boulevard.

1405
00:56:17,825 --> 00:56:20,372
Thank you. I've been a resident

1406
00:56:20,372 --> 00:56:23,130
for years. I also work here in

1407
00:56:23,130 --> 00:56:26,613
the island. I'm a real estate

1408
00:56:26,976 --> 00:56:30,576
broker and I'm here to support

1409
00:56:31,722 --> 00:56:35,922
item seven e, the new or the

1410
00:56:37,446 --> 00:56:39,446
proposed redevelopment for 303

1411
00:56:44,201 --> 00:56:47,801
gallon drive. I think it's a

1412
00:56:52,918 --> 00:56:55,318
wonderful opportunity and a

1413
00:57:01,417 --> 00:57:04,417
wonderful project. We work with

1414
00:57:10,336 --> 00:57:13,936
buyers all the time and in

1415
00:57:20,458 --> 00:57:22,458
today's environment, people

1416
00:57:30,694 --> 00:57:33,694
buyers are looking for quality

1417
00:57:41,216 --> 00:57:44,216
construction and safety and of

1418
00:57:50,982 --> 00:57:53,982
course long term investment. We

1419
00:58:00,896 --> 00:58:03,896
are advocating for the island

1420
00:58:09,208 --> 00:58:14,800
to bring a lot of people to buy

1421
00:58:17,667 --> 00:58:20,667
and live in this wonderful

1422
00:58:27,661 --> 00:58:30,610
place. And sometimes we

1423
00:58:38,928 --> 00:58:41,928
struggle, sometimes we do. I

1424
00:58:48,450 --> 00:58:50,445
also think that well-designed

1425
00:58:56,175 --> 00:58:58,175
redevelopments elevates the

1426
00:59:03,962 --> 00:59:06,362
overall quality and appearance

1427
00:59:11,912 --> 00:59:15,512
of our village, like new homes

1428
00:59:19,897 --> 00:59:22,297
and all these beautiful

1429
00:59:27,705 --> 00:59:30,105
commercial spaces that are

1430
00:59:35,933 --> 00:59:39,533
being fixed. It all helps. I

1431
00:59:44,820 --> 00:59:47,820
also think that newer and

1432
00:59:53,704 --> 00:59:55,704
resilient buildings help

1433
01:00:02,403 --> 01:00:04,403
support the surrounding

1434
01:00:11,507 --> 01:00:14,507
property values. I do believe

1435
01:00:20,357 --> 01:00:23,957
that a new building will help

1436
01:00:29,171 --> 01:00:32,171
the entire area where the

1437
01:00:38,654 --> 01:00:41,540
building is being redeveloped.

1438
01:00:47,908 --> 01:00:50,908
I think this project respects

1439
01:00:57,393 --> 01:00:59,793
the existing density while

1440
01:01:07,555 --> 01:01:09,555
improving safety, resilience

1441
01:01:18,940 --> 01:01:21,940
and the quality of the

1442
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:30,428
neighborhood. It's a thoughtful

1443
01:01:37,980 --> 01:01:40,698
investment in the future of Key

1444
01:01:44,607 --> 01:01:47,700
Biscayne, and I respectfully

1445
01:01:52,109 --> 01:01:54,509
encourage the council to

1446
01:02:00,986 --> 01:02:03,986
support it. Thank you, thank

1447
01:02:08,822 --> 01:02:11,822
you. That's all the public

1448
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:19,668
comments that I have at this

1449
01:02:24,314 --> 01:02:27,314
time. MR. Attorney, could we

1450
01:02:32,910 --> 01:02:35,910
just jump to the presentation

1451
01:02:39,798 --> 01:02:43,998
on the on 303, since we have so

1452
01:02:47,642 --> 01:02:50,642
many people here and the

1453
01:02:55,779 --> 01:02:58,779
council doesn't have a problem

1454
01:03:06,275 --> 01:03:08,675
with that? Sure. Counsel,

1455
01:03:13,917 --> 01:03:17,517
you're good with that. So. Okay,

1456
01:03:21,980 --> 01:03:24,980
Jeremy, you're up first. Good

1457
01:03:28,808 --> 01:03:31,808
evening, MR. Mayor. Members of

1458
01:03:35,701 --> 01:03:39,301
the council. My name is Mario

1459
01:03:42,804 --> 01:03:45,804
Garcia. Sarah, with offices at

1460
01:03:49,644 --> 01:03:52,440
600 Brickell Avenue and my

1461
01:03:56,524 --> 01:03:58,924
residents at 600 Great Tree

1462
01:04:03,354 --> 01:04:05,754
Drive here this evening,

1463
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:12,452
representing Galen Drive mw,

1464
01:04:18,141 --> 01:04:21,141
llc, the contract purchaser for

1465
01:04:24,932 --> 01:04:27,332
the property, located at 303

1466
01:04:32,698 --> 01:04:35,980
Galen Drive, commonly referred

1467
01:04:40,177 --> 01:04:43,777
to as the Coral Reef Apartments.

1468
01:04:46,831 --> 01:04:49,831
MR. Mayor, I think the

1469
01:04:53,270 --> 01:04:56,270
anticipation was that with just.

1470
01:04:59,410 --> 01:05:01,441
The applicant will be

1471
01:05:03,919 --> 01:05:06,319
presenting this evening, but

1472
01:05:08,250 --> 01:05:11,580
I'm sure staff is available for

1473
01:05:11,580 --> 01:05:14,380
any questions or comments that

1474
01:05:14,380 --> 01:05:17,350
you might have. We're bringing

1475
01:05:17,350 --> 01:05:19,298
the presentation up on the

1476
01:05:19,298 --> 01:05:21,778
screen now. While we're doing

1477
01:05:21,778 --> 01:05:24,270
that, I introduce the rest of

1478
01:05:24,270 --> 01:05:26,785
the project team that's there

1479
01:05:26,785 --> 01:05:29,389
that's here. This evening. I'm

1480
01:05:29,389 --> 01:05:31,926
joined this evening by Walter

1481
01:05:31,926 --> 01:05:34,144
de Fortuna, the principal of

1482
01:05:34,144 --> 01:05:36,234
Galen Drive mw llc, who is a

1483
01:05:36,234 --> 01:05:38,410
longtime resident of Key

1484
01:05:38,410 --> 01:05:39,989
Biscayne with a proven track

1485
01:05:39,989 --> 01:05:41,948
record, as you've already heard

1486
01:05:41,948 --> 01:05:44,175
this evening in a real estate

1487
01:05:44,175 --> 01:05:46,175
development and hospitality

1488
01:05:46,229 --> 01:05:48,350
sections. Also joined by

1489
01:05:48,350 --> 01:05:50,109
Bernardo Ford of Arquitectonica,

1490
01:05:50,109 --> 01:05:51,988
who is our project architect,

1491
01:05:51,988 --> 01:05:53,206
as well as MR. Judd Kurlantzick,

1492
01:05:53,206 --> 01:05:54,408
our planning and zoning

1493
01:05:54,408 --> 01:05:55,906
consultant. There is a land use

1494
01:05:55,906 --> 01:05:57,457
and zoning code text amendment

1495
01:05:57,457 --> 01:05:59,590
component of our request, which

1496
01:05:59,590 --> 01:06:00,497
I will present on with Judd's

1497
01:06:00,497 --> 01:06:02,272
assistance, and then Bernardo

1498
01:06:02,272 --> 01:06:04,343
will present the project here

1499
01:06:04,343 --> 01:06:06,415
to orient. Everybody is the

1500
01:06:06,415 --> 01:06:08,550
project site and we'll provide

1501
01:06:08,550 --> 01:06:10,821
some background information on

1502
01:06:10,821 --> 01:06:12,666
it. It's a little over one acre

1503
01:06:12,666 --> 01:06:14,815
in size, located at the very

1504
01:06:14,815 --> 01:06:16,705
east end of Galen Drive, the

1505
01:06:16,705 --> 01:06:18,365
Ritz-Carlton hotel is to its

1506
01:06:18,365 --> 01:06:20,281
east and the Ritz-Carlton

1507
01:06:20,281 --> 01:06:21,805
Tennis Center is to its

1508
01:06:21,805 --> 01:06:23,602
immediate north. The Galen

1509
01:06:23,602 --> 01:06:25,358
Breakers Condominiums is to the

1510
01:06:25,358 --> 01:06:26,944
south, on the other side of

1511
01:06:26,944 --> 01:06:28,585
Galen Drive, the existing

1512
01:06:28,585 --> 01:06:29,968
building on the site, the Coral

1513
01:06:29,968 --> 01:06:31,837
Reef Apartments is a 51 unit,

1514
01:06:31,837 --> 01:06:33,471
three story apartment building,

1515
01:06:33,471 --> 01:06:35,205
originally constructed in 1967

1516
01:06:35,205 --> 01:06:36,214
with a combination of one

1517
01:06:36,214 --> 01:06:38,960
bedroom and two bedroom

1518
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:39,575
apartments, it is one of the

1519
01:06:39,575 --> 01:06:40,833
few properties in Key Biscayne,

1520
01:06:40,833 --> 01:06:42,160
unfortunately, whose assessed

1521
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:43,465
value has actually gone down

1522
01:06:43,465 --> 01:06:44,537
over the last few years. Its

1523
01:06:44,537 --> 01:06:45,641
assessed value in 2023 was 9.5

1524
01:06:45,641 --> 01:06:46,613
million, and today it is

1525
01:06:46,613 --> 01:06:48,230
8,000,850 000. The units are

1526
01:06:48,230 --> 01:06:49,511
presently rented out for both

1527
01:06:49,511 --> 01:06:50,656
long term and short term

1528
01:06:50,656 --> 01:06:51,601
rentals, and based on anecdotal

1529
01:06:51,601 --> 01:06:52,650
evidence, it is short term

1530
01:06:52,650 --> 01:06:53,603
rental units do not compare

1531
01:06:53,603 --> 01:06:54,402
favorably to other short term

1532
01:06:54,402 --> 01:06:55,465
rental units available in Key

1533
01:06:55,465 --> 01:06:56,433
Biscayne. The entire ground

1534
01:06:56,433 --> 01:06:57,441
floor of units in this building

1535
01:06:57,441 --> 01:06:58,316
is below base flood elevation,

1536
01:06:58,316 --> 01:06:59,214
and the property contributes a

1537
01:06:59,214 --> 01:07:00,384
total of $26,000 in tax revenue

1538
01:07:00,384 --> 01:07:01,284
to the village annually, which

1539
01:07:01,284 --> 01:07:02,254
is about $500 in tax revenue

1540
01:07:02,254 --> 01:07:03,520
per unit each year. As you are

1541
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:04,469
aware, we have single family

1542
01:07:04,469 --> 01:07:05,486
homes in the village which

1543
01:07:05,486 --> 01:07:06,492
contribute more in tax revenue

1544
01:07:06,492 --> 01:07:07,520
to the village. In short, this

1545
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:08,582
is a site crying out for and in

1546
01:07:08,582 --> 01:07:09,703
need of redevelopment. The

1547
01:07:09,703 --> 01:07:10,841
first thing we looked at, of

1548
01:07:10,841 --> 01:07:12,110
course, is the property zoning.

1549
01:07:12,110 --> 01:07:13,157
As you can see from this map,

1550
01:07:13,157 --> 01:07:14,204
which is a village zoning map,

1551
01:07:14,204 --> 01:07:15,256
the property is zoned ahm 30,

1552
01:07:15,256 --> 01:07:16,200
which is the village's high

1553
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:17,166
rise multifamily zoning

1554
01:07:17,166 --> 01:07:18,203
district. Of importance to note

1555
01:07:18,203 --> 01:07:19,117
and noted on the plan there is

1556
01:07:19,117 --> 01:07:20,890
that there are about four ahm

1557
01:07:20,890 --> 01:07:21,136
30 properties, including this

1558
01:07:21,136 --> 01:07:22,170
one, which are located in the

1559
01:07:22,170 --> 01:07:22,524
vicinity, which are not

1560
01:07:22,524 --> 01:07:23,959
oceanfront, not beachfront. The

1561
01:07:23,959 --> 01:07:24,996
failure of the drafters of the

1562
01:07:24,996 --> 01:07:26,109
village's zoning code to

1563
01:07:26,109 --> 01:07:27,960
acknowledge this distinction

1564
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:27,891
led to a mistake in the code,

1565
01:07:27,891 --> 01:07:28,805
which we are asking you to

1566
01:07:28,805 --> 01:07:29,680
correct. On the left side of

1567
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:30,598
this image, you'll see the

1568
01:07:30,598 --> 01:07:31,391
height, floor, area, and

1569
01:07:31,391 --> 01:07:32,286
density allowed by the existing

1570
01:07:32,286 --> 01:07:33,333
zoning. It is very important to

1571
01:07:33,333 --> 01:07:34,253
note that the height permitted

1572
01:07:34,253 --> 01:07:34,932
today is 150ft. That height is

1573
01:07:34,932 --> 01:07:35,591
already permitted. The floor

1574
01:07:35,591 --> 01:07:36,387
area which is allowed is what

1575
01:07:36,387 --> 01:07:37,260
is bizarre. As you can see, the

1576
01:07:37,260 --> 01:07:38,400
far of 0.4 is ridiculously

1577
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:38,777
small for a 150 foot high

1578
01:07:38,777 --> 01:07:39,554
building. When one applies that

1579
01:07:39,554 --> 01:07:40,418
current zoning to the property,

1580
01:07:40,418 --> 01:07:40,920
the amount of floor area which

1581
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:41,438
could potentially be

1582
01:07:41,438 --> 01:07:42,234
constructed in new construction

1583
01:07:42,234 --> 01:07:42,971
today on this property is

1584
01:07:42,971 --> 01:07:43,470
19,800ft!S. That is less than

1585
01:07:43,470 --> 01:07:44,500
half of what exists today.

1586
01:07:44,500 --> 01:07:44,586
Dividing that number by the 34

1587
01:07:44,586 --> 01:07:45,174
units permitted today and

1588
01:07:45,174 --> 01:07:45,837
deducting a 2,420% for common

1589
01:07:45,837 --> 01:07:46,540
area would leave you with an

1590
01:07:46,540 --> 01:07:47,223
average unit size of 465ft!S.

1591
01:07:47,223 --> 01:07:47,900
That is barely a respectable

1592
01:07:47,900 --> 01:07:48,444
studio apartment. Comparing the

1593
01:07:48,444 --> 01:07:48,941
below summary on this slide

1594
01:07:48,941 --> 01:07:49,496
with the upper summary makes

1595
01:07:49,496 --> 01:07:50,109
clear why this property has

1596
01:07:50,109 --> 01:07:50,677
never been a candidate for

1597
01:07:50,677 --> 01:07:51,306
redevelopment, despite its

1598
01:07:51,306 --> 01:07:51,930
unfortunate current condition.

1599
01:07:51,930 --> 01:07:52,563
What exists today the 51 unit

1600
01:07:52,563 --> 01:07:53,188
and the 46,290 209ft!S in three

1601
01:07:53,188 --> 01:07:53,730
stories is considerably more

1602
01:07:53,730 --> 01:07:54,361
than what is allowed under

1603
01:07:54,361 --> 01:07:55,310
today's zoning. There is

1604
01:07:55,310 --> 01:07:55,629
absolutely no incentive for

1605
01:07:55,629 --> 01:07:56,317
redevelopment of this property,

1606
01:07:56,317 --> 01:07:56,873
which makes absolutely no sense.

1607
01:07:56,873 --> 01:07:57,380
When we look at the next lowest

1608
01:07:57,380 --> 01:07:57,997
zoning district, which is rm 16,

1609
01:07:57,997 --> 01:07:58,564
ahm 30 is what we're zoned. Ahm

1610
01:07:58,564 --> 01:07:59,123
16 is the next lowest zoning

1611
01:07:59,123 --> 01:07:59,677
district. It's supposed to be

1612
01:07:59,677 --> 01:08:00,220
the medium density, low rise

1613
01:08:00,220 --> 01:08:00,757
zoning of the village. One

1614
01:08:00,757 --> 01:08:01,257
realizes the internal

1615
01:08:01,257 --> 01:08:01,792
inconsistency in this code. Ahm

1616
01:08:01,792 --> 01:08:02,303
16 allows an far, which is

1617
01:08:02,303 --> 01:08:03,460
twice as high point eight as

1618
01:08:03,460 --> 01:08:03,558
what is allowed for a non

1619
01:08:03,558 --> 01:08:04,148
oceanfront ahm 30 property. How

1620
01:08:04,148 --> 01:08:04,765
can the supposedly more intense

1621
01:08:04,765 --> 01:08:05,181
zoning district have half the

1622
01:08:05,181 --> 01:08:05,838
far of the lesser intense

1623
01:08:05,838 --> 01:08:06,463
zoning district? The answer to

1624
01:08:06,463 --> 01:08:07,500
what caused this mistake lies

1625
01:08:07,500 --> 01:08:07,627
in the language right below

1626
01:08:07,627 --> 01:08:08,179
that highlighted area. The

1627
01:08:08,179 --> 01:08:08,678
higher f, a, r and r 30 is only

1628
01:08:08,678 --> 01:08:09,163
achievable if an oceanfront

1629
01:08:09,163 --> 01:08:09,741
property dedicates easements

1630
01:08:09,741 --> 01:08:10,255
for beach access. Access. The

1631
01:08:10,255 --> 01:08:10,806
drafters of the code just

1632
01:08:10,806 --> 01:08:11,364
failed to acknowledge that

1633
01:08:11,364 --> 01:08:12,700
there were none. Oceanfront ahm

1634
01:08:12,700 --> 01:08:12,548
30 properties such as 303 Galen.

1635
01:08:12,548 --> 01:08:13,135
We know that this happened by

1636
01:08:13,135 --> 01:08:13,800
investigating a little bit of

1637
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:14,348
history. All of the village's

1638
01:08:14,348 --> 01:08:14,849
properties, which today are

1639
01:08:14,849 --> 01:08:15,376
most almost all of the

1640
01:08:15,376 --> 01:08:15,802
village's properties today,

1641
01:08:15,802 --> 01:08:16,286
which are zoned ahm 30, were

1642
01:08:16,286 --> 01:08:16,861
zoned either Ru four or Ru four

1643
01:08:16,861 --> 01:08:17,328
a under Miami-Dade County. Far

1644
01:08:17,328 --> 01:08:17,934
is regulated even until today

1645
01:08:17,934 --> 01:08:18,574
in the county's r four and ru4

1646
01:08:18,574 --> 01:08:19,410
districts pursuant to the far

1647
01:08:19,410 --> 01:08:19,411
table you see in front of you.

1648
01:08:19,411 --> 01:08:19,875
This is the exact same far

1649
01:08:19,875 --> 01:08:20,403
table that you see in the

1650
01:08:20,403 --> 01:08:20,939
village's rm 30 zoning district,

1651
01:08:20,939 --> 01:08:21,497
which are all built out and

1652
01:08:21,497 --> 01:08:22,300
maxed out under the previous

1653
01:08:22,300 --> 01:08:22,411
county zoning, with the

1654
01:08:22,411 --> 01:08:23,830
exception of 303. Galen. Simply

1655
01:08:23,830 --> 01:08:23,694
speaking, when the new village

1656
01:08:23,694 --> 01:08:24,190
code was adopted, they cut and

1657
01:08:24,190 --> 01:08:24,921
paste this far table. Added the

1658
01:08:24,921 --> 01:08:25,276
language on beach access

1659
01:08:25,276 --> 01:08:26,115
easements, and overlooked the

1660
01:08:26,115 --> 01:08:27,123
fact that several of the 30

1661
01:08:27,123 --> 01:08:27,611
properties are not beach front.

1662
01:08:27,611 --> 01:08:28,136
To sort of help support this

1663
01:08:28,136 --> 01:08:28,644
argument, I'm bringing out

1664
01:08:28,644 --> 01:08:29,263
somebody from our village

1665
01:08:29,263 --> 01:08:29,936
history, which is Judd

1666
01:08:29,936 --> 01:08:30,363
Kurlantzick, our planning and

1667
01:08:30,363 --> 01:08:30,890
zoning consultant who many of

1668
01:08:30,890 --> 01:08:31,255
you know, previously served as

1669
01:08:31,255 --> 01:08:31,636
planning and zoning director

1670
01:08:31,636 --> 01:08:32,193
for the village. Judd. Thank

1671
01:08:32,193 --> 01:08:32,735
you. Mario Judd Kurlantzick 611

1672
01:08:32,735 --> 01:08:33,245
Ocean Drive and a 25 year

1673
01:08:33,245 --> 01:08:33,651
resident of the village. When

1674
01:08:33,651 --> 01:08:34,127
the village incorporated, we

1675
01:08:34,127 --> 01:08:34,559
took over. We used the county's

1676
01:08:34,559 --> 01:08:35,610
zoning code and over a series

1677
01:08:35,610 --> 01:08:35,542
of several Zorks, which for

1678
01:08:35,542 --> 01:08:36,160
Mayor Kaplan participated in,

1679
01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:36,553
we began to rezone the village.

1680
01:08:36,553 --> 01:08:37,700
We started with the single

1681
01:08:37,700 --> 01:08:37,584
family and we moved to

1682
01:08:37,584 --> 01:08:38,143
multi-family. And then we moved

1683
01:08:38,143 --> 01:08:38,592
to the oceanfront. And what

1684
01:08:38,592 --> 01:08:39,680
happened here? We looked at the

1685
01:08:39,680 --> 01:08:39,672
Garden District, which which

1686
01:08:39,672 --> 01:08:40,191
name came later in that time,

1687
01:08:40,191 --> 01:08:40,653
and we said that there's

1688
01:08:40,653 --> 01:08:41,850
something special about the

1689
01:08:41,850 --> 01:08:41,538
Garden District. But things

1690
01:08:41,538 --> 01:08:41,867
have changed. It's time for new

1691
01:08:41,867 --> 01:08:42,345
construction. And when we look

1692
01:08:42,345 --> 01:08:42,878
at the rm 30 buildings, as

1693
01:08:42,878 --> 01:08:43,330
shown on the map, there's four

1694
01:08:43,330 --> 01:08:43,716
of them at the end of the block

1695
01:08:43,716 --> 01:08:44,460
that are m 30, while the rest

1696
01:08:44,460 --> 01:08:44,488
of that zoning district is rm

1697
01:08:44,488 --> 01:08:44,814
16 very different in height

1698
01:08:44,814 --> 01:08:45,260
150ft. When I was building

1699
01:08:45,260 --> 01:08:45,708
Zoning Planning director, we

1700
01:08:45,708 --> 01:08:46,214
did a study. Jeremy is also

1701
01:08:46,214 --> 01:08:46,751
updated that study that the end

1702
01:08:46,751 --> 01:08:47,127
those buildings at the end of

1703
01:08:47,127 --> 01:08:47,432
the blocks, the four of them

1704
01:08:47,432 --> 01:08:47,844
all approach or have an far of

1705
01:08:47,844 --> 01:08:48,218
2.0. They're all maximizing the

1706
01:08:48,218 --> 01:08:48,528
density. They were built under

1707
01:08:48,528 --> 01:08:48,937
the county code. And as Mario

1708
01:08:48,937 --> 01:08:49,282
said, we simply cut and paste

1709
01:08:49,282 --> 01:08:49,560
the the county code into our

1710
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:49,832
code when it came time to do

1711
01:08:49,832 --> 01:08:50,960
this, unfortunately, I made a

1712
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:50,409
mistake. One of the very rare

1713
01:08:50,409 --> 01:08:50,689
ones that I made. I like to

1714
01:08:50,689 --> 01:08:51,330
think that others would differ

1715
01:08:51,330 --> 01:08:51,484
with me on that, but I'd like

1716
01:08:51,484 --> 01:08:51,869
to think that somehow we put. I

1717
01:08:51,869 --> 01:08:52,124
put in oceanfront easement and

1718
01:08:52,124 --> 01:08:52,422
that's how you get to the 2.0.

1719
01:08:52,422 --> 01:08:52,728
It's absolutely impossible for

1720
01:08:52,728 --> 01:08:52,960
those four buildings, which are

1721
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:53,286
landlocked, to provide an

1722
01:08:53,286 --> 01:08:53,516
oceanfront easement. It cannot

1723
01:08:53,516 --> 01:08:53,859
happen. That was the mistake.

1724
01:08:53,859 --> 01:08:54,185
It was recognized sometime

1725
01:08:54,185 --> 01:08:54,515
after that. My good friend

1726
01:08:54,515 --> 01:08:54,837
Jeremy is also recognized also.

1727
01:08:54,837 --> 01:08:55,318
And now we're getting around to

1728
01:08:55,318 --> 01:08:55,743
fixing this mistake. I never

1729
01:08:55,743 --> 01:08:56,117
thought I'd be part of this

1730
01:08:56,117 --> 01:08:56,496
process to do that, but that's

1731
01:08:56,496 --> 01:08:56,848
where I find myself right now.

1732
01:08:56,848 --> 01:08:57,221
So we're asking you to correct

1733
01:08:57,221 --> 01:08:57,587
that error of several years ago,

1734
01:08:57,587 --> 01:08:57,896
because it's impossible to

1735
01:08:57,896 --> 01:08:58,161
provide an easement. We're

1736
01:08:58,161 --> 01:08:58,395
entitled to get to the 2.0.

1737
01:08:58,395 --> 01:08:58,625
That's the underlying zoning.

1738
01:08:58,625 --> 01:08:58,885
We're entitled to the density,

1739
01:08:58,885 --> 01:08:59,128
and we're asking you to to set

1740
01:08:59,128 --> 01:08:59,472
to do that for us and move

1741
01:08:59,472 --> 01:08:59,897
forward with what will be a.

1742
01:08:59,897 --> 01:09:00,115
And you're going to see it from

1743
01:09:00,115 --> 01:09:00,315
Arquitectonica, a magnificent

1744
01:09:00,315 --> 01:09:00,623
transitional building. They

1745
01:09:00,623 --> 01:09:00,998
really did a great job. And

1746
01:09:00,998 --> 01:09:01,383
we'll get into how much better

1747
01:09:01,383 --> 01:09:01,665
this building is going to be.

1748
01:09:01,665 --> 01:09:02,116
Being a Bf and above taking

1749
01:09:02,116 --> 01:09:02,427
care of all the resiliency

1750
01:09:02,427 --> 01:09:02,729
problems. And when it comes

1751
01:09:02,729 --> 01:09:03,183
down to negotiating with the

1752
01:09:03,183 --> 01:09:03,686
village, I believe we're going

1753
01:09:03,686 --> 01:09:04,207
to make a very generous proffer,

1754
01:09:04,207 --> 01:09:04,530
which is going to improve the

1755
01:09:04,530 --> 01:09:04,831
entire infrastructure in the

1756
01:09:04,831 --> 01:09:05,135
Garden District. Thank you very

1757
01:09:05,135 --> 01:09:05,480
much, mayor. Keep going. Thank

1758
01:09:05,480 --> 01:09:05,895
you. Thank you, MR. Mayor. I'd

1759
01:09:05,895 --> 01:09:06,195
say we probably have about

1760
01:09:06,195 --> 01:09:06,490
another 5 or 6 minutes. Okay.

1761
01:09:06,490 --> 01:09:06,941
Let me now touch upon the issue

1762
01:09:06,941 --> 01:09:07,237
of density, because we are

1763
01:09:07,237 --> 01:09:07,613
requesting a code amendment to

1764
01:09:07,613 --> 01:09:07,893
allow arm 30 properties to keep

1765
01:09:07,893 --> 01:09:08,264
their existing density. As I

1766
01:09:08,264 --> 01:09:08,664
mentioned earlier, all of the

1767
01:09:08,664 --> 01:09:09,400
arm 30 properties were

1768
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:09,373
developed under Miami-Dade

1769
01:09:09,373 --> 01:09:09,839
County zoning and are more

1770
01:09:09,839 --> 01:09:11,164
dense than what is permitted

1771
01:09:11,164 --> 01:09:12,833
today. The Village code allows

1772
01:09:12,833 --> 01:09:15,302
them to keep their greater

1773
01:09:15,302 --> 01:09:17,471
density existing density when

1774
01:09:17,471 --> 01:09:19,306
being rebuilt in the event of a

1775
01:09:19,306 --> 01:09:20,441
natural catastrophe.

1776
01:09:20,441 --> 01:09:22,441
Accordingly, those higher

1777
01:09:22,542 --> 01:09:24,778
densities can be kept into

1778
01:09:24,778 --> 01:09:25,946
perpetuity and are here to stay.

1779
01:09:25,946 --> 01:09:27,247
It is highly unlikely that

1780
01:09:27,247 --> 01:09:29,490
those buildings will ever be

1781
01:09:29,490 --> 01:09:30,250
redeveloped at a lower density.

1782
01:09:30,250 --> 01:09:31,585
We're asking you to acknowledge

1783
01:09:31,585 --> 01:09:32,286
that reality and allow

1784
01:09:32,286 --> 01:09:34,540
properties to keep their

1785
01:09:34,540 --> 01:09:35,889
existing density upon

1786
01:09:35,889 --> 01:09:37,658
redevelopment also, so as to

1787
01:09:37,658 --> 01:09:39,658
encourage new construction,

1788
01:09:39,827 --> 01:09:41,395
which is resilient of better

1789
01:09:41,395 --> 01:09:44,395
quality and contributes more to

1790
01:09:44,898 --> 01:09:46,330
the community. With regards to

1791
01:09:46,330 --> 01:09:47,368
F.A.R, we are asking you to

1792
01:09:47,368 --> 01:09:48,869
correct a mistake and with

1793
01:09:48,869 --> 01:09:51,400
regards to density, we are

1794
01:09:51,400 --> 01:09:52,172
asking you to allow us to keep

1795
01:09:52,172 --> 01:09:53,840
what we have consistent with

1796
01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:56,420
other policies in the village's

1797
01:09:56,420 --> 01:09:58,645
comprehensive plan. But in both

1798
01:09:58,645 --> 01:10:00,480
cases, we are proposing that

1799
01:10:00,480 --> 01:10:02,149
this only be allowed in the

1800
01:10:02,149 --> 01:10:04,384
form of bonuses or additional

1801
01:10:04,384 --> 01:10:06,850
public benefit is provided in

1802
01:10:06,850 --> 01:10:08,289
the form of either land

1803
01:10:08,289 --> 01:10:10,289
easements or monetary

1804
01:10:10,623 --> 01:10:11,691
contributions. The previous

1805
01:10:11,691 --> 01:10:13,259
slide was a proposed amendment

1806
01:10:13,259 --> 01:10:15,128
to the Comprehensive Plan text.

1807
01:10:15,128 --> 01:10:17,264
This slide is the amendment to

1808
01:10:17,264 --> 01:10:18,699
the zoning code text. In this

1809
01:10:18,699 --> 01:10:20,133
way, we can have an rm 30

1810
01:10:20,133 --> 01:10:21,969
zoning district which makes

1811
01:10:21,969 --> 01:10:23,437
sense. Treats non oceanfront

1812
01:10:23,437 --> 01:10:24,838
properties appropriately and

1813
01:10:24,838 --> 01:10:25,905
allows redevelopment, but a

1814
01:10:25,905 --> 01:10:27,905
quality redevelopment which

1815
01:10:28,750 --> 01:10:29,943
does not create increased

1816
01:10:29,943 --> 01:10:31,445
density and create significant

1817
01:10:31,445 --> 01:10:33,446
public benefit. With that said,

1818
01:10:33,446 --> 01:10:34,715
I'll ask Bernardo to come up

1819
01:10:34,715 --> 01:10:37,715
and discuss the project and

1820
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:47,528
then Walter will close us out.

1821
01:10:47,528 --> 01:10:48,962
Good afternoon. I'm Bernardo,

1822
01:10:48,962 --> 01:10:51,362
I'm a principal of

1823
01:10:51,498 --> 01:10:53,498
Arquitectonica, 2900 Oak Avenue,

1824
01:10:55,803 --> 01:10:57,571
Miami. I'm going to take you

1825
01:10:57,571 --> 01:11:01,171
through some of the images and

1826
01:11:02,976 --> 01:11:05,945
plans of the project. Oh, here.

1827
01:11:05,945 --> 01:11:08,516
Which one? Here. Just Yarrow.

1828
01:11:08,516 --> 01:11:10,317
Okay. Thank you. Well, that is

1829
01:11:10,317 --> 01:11:13,917
the location is where you see

1830
01:11:14,154 --> 01:11:16,257
it marked r in 30. That

1831
01:11:16,257 --> 01:11:18,492
rectangle is the subject

1832
01:11:18,492 --> 01:11:20,260
property to the north. You can

1833
01:11:20,260 --> 01:11:23,831
see that there's a series of

1834
01:11:23,831 --> 01:11:25,265
tennis courts and racket courts.

1835
01:11:25,265 --> 01:11:27,201
There's no building to that

1836
01:11:27,201 --> 01:11:29,169
side. But to the south, there's

1837
01:11:29,169 --> 01:11:31,104
a building that you'll see how

1838
01:11:31,104 --> 01:11:32,839
we are being respectful of, in

1839
01:11:32,839 --> 01:11:35,376
the manner in which we straddle

1840
01:11:35,376 --> 01:11:37,911
by moving our building to the

1841
01:11:37,911 --> 01:11:41,511
west so that it clears, it

1842
01:11:41,848 --> 01:11:44,848
keeps its views across the

1843
01:11:45,819 --> 01:11:47,254
space. You can see here the

1844
01:11:47,254 --> 01:11:49,550
massing that is permitted on

1845
01:11:49,550 --> 01:11:51,125
the site, and how we have

1846
01:11:51,125 --> 01:11:53,393
actually minimized it for the

1847
01:11:53,393 --> 01:11:55,162
purpose that I just described.

1848
01:11:55,162 --> 01:11:56,930
You can see here the ground

1849
01:11:56,930 --> 01:11:59,299
level, and it's important to

1850
01:11:59,299 --> 01:12:01,701
point out that we're above the

1851
01:12:01,701 --> 01:12:03,837
b f as required. And we vetted

1852
01:12:03,837 --> 01:12:06,600
all this plan that you see here

1853
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:07,808
with the civil engineers to

1854
01:12:07,808 --> 01:12:09,609
make sure that the building is

1855
01:12:09,609 --> 01:12:12,900
resilient and that it's

1856
01:12:12,479 --> 01:12:14,470
protected from flooding,

1857
01:12:14,470 --> 01:12:15,716
including all the spaces that

1858
01:12:15,716 --> 01:12:19,190
you see here. You can see your

1859
01:12:19,190 --> 01:12:22,188
rise to the level of the lobby,

1860
01:12:22,188 --> 01:12:24,358
and even the mep space is

1861
01:12:24,358 --> 01:12:26,758
properly protected at that

1862
01:12:26,860 --> 01:12:28,662
elevation. It is the intent of

1863
01:12:28,662 --> 01:12:30,497
is to provide a building that

1864
01:12:30,497 --> 01:12:32,599
is self-sufficient. It drains

1865
01:12:32,599 --> 01:12:35,135
itself, it contains its waters

1866
01:12:35,135 --> 01:12:38,135
within, and that it's resilient

1867
01:12:38,371 --> 01:12:40,173
to any event that MAY happen.

1868
01:12:40,173 --> 01:12:43,410
You can see here the next level,

1869
01:12:43,410 --> 01:12:45,545
as we go up into the garage,

1870
01:12:45,545 --> 01:12:48,415
you can see the garage spanning

1871
01:12:48,415 --> 01:12:50,617
across. It's a very low slung

1872
01:12:50,617 --> 01:12:52,820
horizontal volume that goes

1873
01:12:52,820 --> 01:12:54,187
across the space. And

1874
01:12:54,187 --> 01:12:55,789
immediately after that we have

1875
01:12:55,789 --> 01:12:57,390
an open space. You can see

1876
01:12:57,390 --> 01:13:00,990
where the building is to the

1877
01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:02,830
left, to the west to help

1878
01:13:02,830 --> 01:13:04,864
provide the open space for the

1879
01:13:04,864 --> 01:13:05,999
building. To the south, you see

1880
01:13:05,999 --> 01:13:08,999
where the location of the

1881
01:13:09,369 --> 01:13:12,369
swimming pool is. Some terraces

1882
01:13:12,573 --> 01:13:14,741
for lounging. The amenities

1883
01:13:14,741 --> 01:13:17,741
open and indoors are happening

1884
01:13:17,744 --> 01:13:19,412
on this level. If we go to the

1885
01:13:19,412 --> 01:13:21,582
next level, you see how that

1886
01:13:21,582 --> 01:13:23,982
double height space provides

1887
01:13:24,840 --> 01:13:25,552
natural light. Also in the

1888
01:13:25,552 --> 01:13:28,552
afternoon into the pool deck,

1889
01:13:28,788 --> 01:13:32,393
and also opens up and gives air

1890
01:13:32,393 --> 01:13:33,460
space to the south, towards the

1891
01:13:33,460 --> 01:13:34,895
street and towards the

1892
01:13:34,895 --> 01:13:37,630
neighbors. And finally the

1893
01:13:37,630 --> 01:13:39,990
building rises above it and you

1894
01:13:39,990 --> 01:13:41,350
can see the simple organization

1895
01:13:41,350 --> 01:13:43,537
of the floor plan that is fully

1896
01:13:43,537 --> 01:13:46,406
shifted to the position that I

1897
01:13:46,406 --> 01:13:48,208
that I described. And

1898
01:13:48,208 --> 01:13:49,809
eventually we are enclosing the

1899
01:13:49,809 --> 01:13:52,809
mechanical space. So it will

1900
01:13:53,280 --> 01:13:54,715
not be evident. You can see

1901
01:13:54,715 --> 01:13:57,584
here the building position and

1902
01:13:57,584 --> 01:14:00,870
where it is located. You can

1903
01:14:00,870 --> 01:14:03,870
see the companion buildings on

1904
01:14:03,690 --> 01:14:06,960
the waterfront and to the south,

1905
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:08,528
to the north, to the east and

1906
01:14:08,528 --> 01:14:11,528
and where the adjacent building

1907
01:14:11,632 --> 01:14:14,534
is located and why we are

1908
01:14:14,534 --> 01:14:17,737
shifted to the void space next

1909
01:14:17,737 --> 01:14:19,205
to it. You can see here other

1910
01:14:19,205 --> 01:14:22,609
views here in the context of

1911
01:14:22,609 --> 01:14:24,311
the racket complex that occurs

1912
01:14:24,311 --> 01:14:25,745
to the north and northwest of

1913
01:14:25,745 --> 01:14:27,214
the property. And you can see

1914
01:14:27,214 --> 01:14:29,583
here, here in the context of

1915
01:14:29,583 --> 01:14:31,418
other buildings of similar

1916
01:14:31,418 --> 01:14:32,519
height, because similar scale

1917
01:14:32,519 --> 01:14:34,321
wouldn't be appropriate to say,

1918
01:14:34,321 --> 01:14:35,590
because this is a far smaller

1919
01:14:35,590 --> 01:14:37,924
building in terms of footprint,

1920
01:14:37,924 --> 01:14:40,394
a fraction of any of the other

1921
01:14:40,394 --> 01:14:42,950
buildings of its kind. And you

1922
01:14:42,950 --> 01:14:44,300
can see how the ground level,

1923
01:14:44,300 --> 01:14:45,832
you see the rise of the

1924
01:14:45,832 --> 01:14:47,601
vehicles arriving to the lobby,

1925
01:14:47,601 --> 01:14:51,238
and how we have a very low

1926
01:14:51,238 --> 01:14:53,390
slung garage that is providing

1927
01:14:53,390 --> 01:14:55,942
shade to the covered drop off

1928
01:14:55,942 --> 01:14:58,779
on a rainy day and how it is

1929
01:14:58,779 --> 01:15:00,947
fully landscaped along a berm

1930
01:15:00,947 --> 01:15:03,450
and along the whole front edge

1931
01:15:03,450 --> 01:15:05,618
of the street. This is a really

1932
01:15:05,618 --> 01:15:08,618
green passage along the street,

1933
01:15:08,889 --> 01:15:11,910
actually unusually green for

1934
01:15:11,910 --> 01:15:12,792
that street that is of another

1935
01:15:12,792 --> 01:15:14,194
era where greenery wasn't as

1936
01:15:14,194 --> 01:15:16,620
dominant as what we're trying

1937
01:15:16,620 --> 01:15:18,232
to create here. We also had

1938
01:15:18,232 --> 01:15:19,666
greenery on that interstitial

1939
01:15:19,666 --> 01:15:21,868
space on the pool deck that

1940
01:15:21,868 --> 01:15:23,670
goes all the way across the

1941
01:15:23,670 --> 01:15:25,672
frontage. You can see here the

1942
01:15:25,672 --> 01:15:27,608
arrival and its transparency

1943
01:15:27,608 --> 01:15:29,376
and being friendly to the

1944
01:15:29,376 --> 01:15:31,578
street. You can see the

1945
01:15:31,578 --> 01:15:33,780
walkways that are going by the

1946
01:15:33,780 --> 01:15:36,583
property and and how green

1947
01:15:36,583 --> 01:15:38,318
we're trying to make them. And

1948
01:15:38,318 --> 01:15:39,920
you can see here the pool deck

1949
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:41,988
and what I meant by opening up

1950
01:15:41,988 --> 01:15:43,890
the building on that level

1951
01:15:43,890 --> 01:15:46,260
above the garage so that it

1952
01:15:46,260 --> 01:15:47,728
would float and, and give

1953
01:15:47,728 --> 01:15:48,862
openness to the next door

1954
01:15:48,862 --> 01:15:50,731
neighbors. Here you can see the

1955
01:15:50,731 --> 01:15:52,980
view from the swimming pool and

1956
01:15:52,980 --> 01:15:54,200
viewing the other direction

1957
01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:56,350
towards the waterfront.

1958
01:15:56,350 --> 01:15:58,435
Complexes that exist towards

1959
01:15:58,472 --> 01:15:59,673
the east. But you can see here

1960
01:15:59,673 --> 01:16:02,142
the amount of open space that

1961
01:16:02,142 --> 01:16:04,444
we're creating on this level to

1962
01:16:04,444 --> 01:16:06,847
open up the airspace towards

1963
01:16:06,847 --> 01:16:09,160
the street. And I hope this

1964
01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:11,518
gives you the general plan. You

1965
01:16:11,518 --> 01:16:14,354
can see that we have resiliency

1966
01:16:14,354 --> 01:16:16,924
and rain garden strategy for

1967
01:16:16,924 --> 01:16:19,924
the building. We have a

1968
01:16:21,995 --> 01:16:23,730
stormwater strategy. We have a.

1969
01:16:23,730 --> 01:16:25,532
Resilient planting palette

1970
01:16:25,532 --> 01:16:26,633
throughout. We have a native

1971
01:16:26,633 --> 01:16:28,680
coastal landscape that is very

1972
01:16:28,680 --> 01:16:30,203
much part of our landscape

1973
01:16:30,203 --> 01:16:32,380
strategy. You can see here the

1974
01:16:32,380 --> 01:16:33,907
many elements of that landscape

1975
01:16:33,907 --> 01:16:36,750
strategy that we are using in

1976
01:16:36,750 --> 01:16:38,545
every way in order to make this

1977
01:16:38,545 --> 01:16:40,680
a really green, sustainable and

1978
01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:41,915
resilient building. And we have

1979
01:16:41,915 --> 01:16:44,251
studied all these elements. You

1980
01:16:44,251 --> 01:16:45,686
can see that the Florida, the

1981
01:16:45,686 --> 01:16:47,454
native and Florida adapted

1982
01:16:47,454 --> 01:16:50,357
species that are very much part

1983
01:16:50,357 --> 01:16:51,891
of the, of the, of the concept

1984
01:16:51,891 --> 01:16:53,626
that we are bringing into the

1985
01:16:53,626 --> 01:16:55,626
property, including natural

1986
01:16:55,829 --> 01:16:58,465
stone and mulch and textural

1987
01:16:58,465 --> 01:16:59,766
ground covers. So hopefully

1988
01:16:59,766 --> 01:17:02,268
this gives you a general sense

1989
01:17:02,268 --> 01:17:03,736
of what we're anticipating to

1990
01:17:03,736 --> 01:17:06,573
create within the building and

1991
01:17:06,573 --> 01:17:10,173
around it. Okay. Thank you very

1992
01:17:15,616 --> 01:17:16,950
much. Thank you. MR. Mayor.

1993
01:17:16,950 --> 01:17:18,151
Council members, thank you very

1994
01:17:18,151 --> 01:17:20,687
much for the opportunity to

1995
01:17:20,687 --> 01:17:22,550
present this. Bernardo. Maybe

1996
01:17:22,550 --> 01:17:23,957
not that many people know your

1997
01:17:23,957 --> 01:17:25,425
talent, but I want to thank you

1998
01:17:25,425 --> 01:17:27,127
very much. I know that you have

1999
01:17:27,127 --> 01:17:29,195
put a lot of effort and a lot

2000
01:17:29,195 --> 01:17:30,330
of time and a very small period

2001
01:17:30,330 --> 01:17:32,131
of time to create this

2002
01:17:32,131 --> 01:17:35,131
beautiful building. So I really

2003
01:17:36,503 --> 01:17:39,706
want to congratulate you on it.

2004
01:17:39,706 --> 01:17:42,675
I live on 720 Harvard Drive. My

2005
01:17:42,675 --> 01:17:44,812
name is Walter de Fortuna. I've

2006
01:17:44,812 --> 01:17:46,947
been a resident for over 40

2007
01:17:46,947 --> 01:17:48,115
years. Me and my family have

2008
01:17:48,115 --> 01:17:51,715
lived in this island for the

2009
01:17:52,686 --> 01:17:54,454
same time. I'm really happy and

2010
01:17:54,454 --> 01:17:56,623
I'm proud to live in this place.

2011
01:17:56,623 --> 01:17:58,424
For me, it's not. I'm not. I

2012
01:17:58,424 --> 01:17:59,826
don't consider myself an extra

2013
01:17:59,826 --> 01:18:01,294
developer to this island. I

2014
01:18:01,294 --> 01:18:04,294
consider my family and my

2015
01:18:05,532 --> 01:18:07,100
friends here. So I had put a

2016
01:18:07,100 --> 01:18:09,302
lot of time and effort in this

2017
01:18:09,302 --> 01:18:11,371
project. I had to spend a lot

2018
01:18:11,371 --> 01:18:13,771
of time hiring consultants,

2019
01:18:13,907 --> 01:18:16,907
following the guidelines of the

2020
01:18:18,745 --> 01:18:19,880
members of staff, and I was

2021
01:18:19,880 --> 01:18:21,247
presented with this opportunity

2022
01:18:21,247 --> 01:18:22,549
a while ago. I know this family

2023
01:18:22,549 --> 01:18:24,718
that owned this building for

2024
01:18:24,718 --> 01:18:26,620
more than 25 years. They own

2025
01:18:26,620 --> 01:18:29,389
this building for over 30 years.

2026
01:18:29,389 --> 01:18:31,892
They bought it for $3.5 million.

2027
01:18:31,892 --> 01:18:33,360
Now it's assessed at about nine.

2028
01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:35,360
The development opportunity,

2029
01:18:35,462 --> 01:18:37,331
you know, give us a chance to

2030
01:18:37,331 --> 01:18:39,499
address the flooding in the

2031
01:18:39,499 --> 01:18:42,369
street. I was the developer

2032
01:18:42,369 --> 01:18:44,104
behind 285 and 201 sunrise,

2033
01:18:44,104 --> 01:18:45,305
both in the Garden District. I

2034
01:18:45,305 --> 01:18:47,241
never came in front of you to

2035
01:18:47,241 --> 01:18:49,109
ask you for anything. I think I

2036
01:18:49,109 --> 01:18:50,244
did the right things with those

2037
01:18:50,244 --> 01:18:51,745
building. I'm trying to do the

2038
01:18:51,745 --> 01:18:53,580
same thing with this building.

2039
01:18:53,580 --> 01:18:55,348
I was put in the agenda to talk

2040
01:18:55,348 --> 01:18:57,184
about it. You know, I thought I

2041
01:18:57,184 --> 01:18:58,418
was hoping we were going to

2042
01:18:58,418 --> 01:19:00,186
vote on this. I spoke to the

2043
01:19:00,186 --> 01:19:03,186
council members before I spoke

2044
01:19:03,557 --> 01:19:07,157
to staff deeply. I looked at

2045
01:19:07,894 --> 01:19:09,362
every issue. I carefully

2046
01:19:09,362 --> 01:19:11,164
analyzed these these

2047
01:19:11,164 --> 01:19:12,933
possibilities, and I thought,

2048
01:19:12,933 --> 01:19:17,133
this is a great addition to to

2049
01:19:17,237 --> 01:19:19,439
the island. I'm one against

2050
01:19:19,439 --> 01:19:21,839
more traffic, more density,

2051
01:19:22,642 --> 01:19:24,444
more crowdedness in in our city,

2052
01:19:24,444 --> 01:19:27,714
but I'm not asking for any more

2053
01:19:27,714 --> 01:19:29,349
density. I my, my speech is the

2054
01:19:29,349 --> 01:19:31,318
30 unit or the 51 units that

2055
01:19:31,318 --> 01:19:31,851
are there. If I don't do this

2056
01:19:31,851 --> 01:19:33,353
development, they're still

2057
01:19:33,353 --> 01:19:34,921
going to be there. They were

2058
01:19:34,921 --> 01:19:35,955
there for 60 years. They will

2059
01:19:35,955 --> 01:19:37,790
probably be there for another

2060
01:19:37,790 --> 01:19:39,927
60 years. The building. We all

2061
01:19:39,927 --> 01:19:42,462
know how it looks like. I'm not

2062
01:19:42,462 --> 01:19:45,365
asking, you know, I mean, to

2063
01:19:45,365 --> 01:19:48,234
give me another 60 units. I

2064
01:19:48,234 --> 01:19:50,300
said, let me have what it is

2065
01:19:50,300 --> 01:19:52,205
existing there so I can develop

2066
01:19:52,205 --> 01:19:54,374
this project. Because if that

2067
01:19:54,374 --> 01:19:57,374
is not possible, this project

2068
01:19:58,440 --> 01:20:00,130
is not doable. A few days ago,

2069
01:20:00,130 --> 01:20:01,181
I thought this was going to be

2070
01:20:01,181 --> 01:20:03,283
treated in front of you as an

2071
01:20:03,283 --> 01:20:05,180
item in the agenda to be voted.

2072
01:20:05,180 --> 01:20:08,618
They told me that they decided

2073
01:20:08,655 --> 01:20:11,191
to take it and all respectfully,

2074
01:20:11,191 --> 01:20:13,359
I thought it was taken because

2075
01:20:13,359 --> 01:20:15,295
the the thing they told me is

2076
01:20:15,295 --> 01:20:17,998
that it was going to look at a

2077
01:20:17,998 --> 01:20:19,466
more, more comprehensive way to

2078
01:20:19,466 --> 01:20:21,267
look at the whole Garden

2079
01:20:21,267 --> 01:20:22,635
District. I'm against the

2080
01:20:22,635 --> 01:20:23,670
rezoning of the whole Garden

2081
01:20:23,670 --> 01:20:25,205
District. I don't think it

2082
01:20:25,205 --> 01:20:26,773
needs it. This is the only

2083
01:20:26,773 --> 01:20:28,175
building in the whole island

2084
01:20:28,175 --> 01:20:29,843
that is single owner. All the

2085
01:20:29,843 --> 01:20:32,412
other buildings in the island

2086
01:20:32,412 --> 01:20:34,280
are condominiums. I've been

2087
01:20:34,280 --> 01:20:37,117
there around that developed all

2088
01:20:37,117 --> 01:20:39,252
over Miami. I can tell you, you

2089
01:20:39,252 --> 01:20:40,420
can plan, you can change the

2090
01:20:40,420 --> 01:20:42,255
zoning, but you're not going to

2091
01:20:42,255 --> 01:20:43,556
see a lot of new buildings

2092
01:20:43,556 --> 01:20:45,359
because buying individual units

2093
01:20:45,359 --> 01:20:47,894
from condo owners is not an

2094
01:20:47,894 --> 01:20:49,696
easy task. I did it at 201

2095
01:20:49,696 --> 01:20:51,464
sunrise where a group of

2096
01:20:51,464 --> 01:20:54,133
friends tried. It took me ten

2097
01:20:54,133 --> 01:20:56,203
years to buy 19 units, so that

2098
01:20:56,203 --> 01:20:57,904
gives you scope of how easy it

2099
01:20:57,904 --> 01:21:00,473
is to see a new development in

2100
01:21:00,473 --> 01:21:02,275
the island. So all I'm asking

2101
01:21:02,275 --> 01:21:05,450
with a very in a very

2102
01:21:05,450 --> 01:21:07,681
respectful way to be put back

2103
01:21:07,681 --> 01:21:09,115
on the agenda and to be treated

2104
01:21:09,115 --> 01:21:10,617
and notwithstanding

2105
01:21:10,617 --> 01:21:13,530
preferential way, I don't want

2106
01:21:13,530 --> 01:21:14,855
anything special. I just want

2107
01:21:14,855 --> 01:21:17,223
to consider these projects for

2108
01:21:17,223 --> 01:21:19,926
his own merits. And basically,

2109
01:21:19,926 --> 01:21:21,995
if you, council members and

2110
01:21:21,995 --> 01:21:23,497
mayor think that this is a

2111
01:21:23,497 --> 01:21:25,298
project that should be approved

2112
01:21:25,298 --> 01:21:28,568
based on the merits, approve it.

2113
01:21:28,568 --> 01:21:31,538
And if it's not, deny it. So I

2114
01:21:31,538 --> 01:21:32,739
really thank you very much for

2115
01:21:32,739 --> 01:21:36,339
your time and effort and your

2116
01:21:43,150 --> 01:21:44,150
consideration. Thank you.

2117
01:21:44,150 --> 01:21:47,150
Should I conclude my comments,

2118
01:21:48,455 --> 01:21:51,257
mayor? Yes, yes, we we need to

2119
01:21:51,257 --> 01:21:52,580
keep going here. Understood. So

2120
01:21:52,580 --> 01:21:53,626
it's going to be about two

2121
01:21:53,626 --> 01:21:54,794
minutes. I want to assure

2122
01:21:54,794 --> 01:21:56,629
everyone that this is not spot

2123
01:21:56,629 --> 01:21:57,630
zoning. Spot zoning is when you

2124
01:21:57,630 --> 01:21:58,731
treat a particular property

2125
01:21:58,731 --> 01:21:59,832
differently from the rest. What

2126
01:21:59,832 --> 01:22:01,701
we're looking to do here is

2127
01:22:01,701 --> 01:22:03,503
correct. An error that there is

2128
01:22:03,503 --> 01:22:04,938
in the arm 30 zoning

2129
01:22:04,938 --> 01:22:06,406
designation tonight. We're not

2130
01:22:06,406 --> 01:22:07,974
asking you to agree with what

2131
01:22:07,974 --> 01:22:08,742
we're proposing or to indicate

2132
01:22:08,742 --> 01:22:11,430
whether you're going to approve

2133
01:22:11,430 --> 01:22:12,846
this project or not. We just

2134
01:22:12,846 --> 01:22:13,914
want a fair hearing on the

2135
01:22:13,914 --> 01:22:15,315
applications we've requested.

2136
01:22:15,315 --> 01:22:17,116
That's the right of every

2137
01:22:17,116 --> 01:22:19,719
applicant, and we ask that you

2138
01:22:19,719 --> 01:22:20,786
do not deprive us or defer that

2139
01:22:20,786 --> 01:22:22,222
hearing of the application. And

2140
01:22:22,222 --> 01:22:23,856
in particular, we would ask,

2141
01:22:23,856 --> 01:22:25,658
and I know this is a unique ask,

2142
01:22:25,658 --> 01:22:26,793
but we would ask that you

2143
01:22:26,793 --> 01:22:28,595
schedule a special meeting of

2144
01:22:28,595 --> 01:22:29,730
the council the second week of

2145
01:22:29,730 --> 01:22:30,964
SEPTEMBER, so that this council

2146
01:22:30,964 --> 01:22:34,434
could be the one that reviews

2147
01:22:34,434 --> 01:22:35,936
this project and provides their

2148
01:22:35,936 --> 01:22:37,337
determination on this proposed

2149
01:22:37,337 --> 01:22:39,500
zoning code text amendment.

2150
01:22:39,500 --> 01:22:40,273
This is a small town that has

2151
01:22:40,273 --> 01:22:42,740
always prided itself as

2152
01:22:42,740 --> 01:22:43,343
treating everyone fairly, and

2153
01:22:43,343 --> 01:22:45,770
that is the only thing that

2154
01:22:45,770 --> 01:22:47,648
we're asking for this evening.

2155
01:22:47,648 --> 01:22:51,248
Thank you very much. Thank you.

2156
01:22:53,853 --> 01:22:57,857
Thank you. So I would I would

2157
01:22:57,857 --> 01:23:00,257
like Jeremy, our building

2158
01:23:00,727 --> 01:23:03,727
director, and Chad, our village

2159
01:23:04,297 --> 01:23:06,866
attorney, talk to the council

2160
01:23:06,866 --> 01:23:09,469
about what challenges we have

2161
01:23:09,469 --> 01:23:13,669
to if if we want to move

2162
01:23:14,707 --> 01:23:17,310
forward with this. So the

2163
01:23:17,310 --> 01:23:19,710
applicant has proposed a

2164
01:23:19,746 --> 01:23:22,146
comprehensive plan amendment, a

2165
01:23:22,315 --> 01:23:24,817
zoning code text amendment, a

2166
01:23:24,817 --> 01:23:26,219
site plan, and potentially

2167
01:23:26,219 --> 01:23:29,219
variances depending on the site

2168
01:23:29,890 --> 01:23:32,290
plan. The Comprehensive Plan

2169
01:23:33,126 --> 01:23:35,295
amendment requires review by

2170
01:23:35,295 --> 01:23:37,764
the state of Florida and its

2171
01:23:37,764 --> 01:23:39,566
agencies. So between first and

2172
01:23:39,566 --> 01:23:41,735
second reading of an ordinance

2173
01:23:41,735 --> 01:23:43,303
amending the Comprehensive Plan,

2174
01:23:43,303 --> 01:23:46,806
we have to allow the state and

2175
01:23:46,806 --> 01:23:49,806
its agencies 30 days to review.

2176
01:23:50,430 --> 01:23:51,878
So we need to back out those

2177
01:23:51,878 --> 01:23:52,612
days in any review for a

2178
01:23:52,612 --> 01:23:55,120
comprehensive plan before we

2179
01:23:55,810 --> 01:23:57,951
can have second reading. We

2180
01:23:57,951 --> 01:23:59,352
also have a site plan workshop

2181
01:23:59,352 --> 01:24:01,521
requirement that you guys MAY

2182
01:24:01,521 --> 01:24:04,900
recall was adopted, which also,

2183
01:24:04,900 --> 01:24:05,825
I believe requires 28 days

2184
01:24:05,825 --> 01:24:08,361
prior to it being heard for

2185
01:24:08,361 --> 01:24:10,497
that workshop to occur. So

2186
01:24:10,497 --> 01:24:14,970
really, we need to have at

2187
01:24:14,500 --> 01:24:16,900
least 30 days before between

2188
01:24:17,370 --> 01:24:18,472
first and second reading to

2189
01:24:18,472 --> 01:24:21,472
allow the state process to

2190
01:24:22,108 --> 01:24:25,108
occur. And the zoning workshop

2191
01:24:26,130 --> 01:24:28,215
to occur. So then there's

2192
01:24:28,215 --> 01:24:29,282
notification requirements that

2193
01:24:29,282 --> 01:24:31,682
obviously something was put

2194
01:24:32,152 --> 01:24:32,752
into the, I mean, just accepted

2195
01:24:32,752 --> 01:24:34,487
responsibility. Even though he

2196
01:24:34,487 --> 01:24:36,856
never made a mistake, he said

2197
01:24:36,856 --> 01:24:38,992
this is what he made and that

2198
01:24:38,992 --> 01:24:42,228
is that it's impossible to have

2199
01:24:42,228 --> 01:24:43,663
a, a path or an easement to the

2200
01:24:43,663 --> 01:24:46,866
water when you're not on the

2201
01:24:46,866 --> 01:24:48,702
water. Now, does that require a

2202
01:24:48,702 --> 01:24:50,904
change in the comprehensive

2203
01:24:50,904 --> 01:24:51,938
plan since that what was an

2204
01:24:51,938 --> 01:24:54,938
impossibility? And we put in

2205
01:24:55,509 --> 01:24:57,210
there the the language that

2206
01:24:57,210 --> 01:24:58,411
Judd was referring to was in

2207
01:24:58,411 --> 01:25:00,213
the zoning code and not the

2208
01:25:00,213 --> 01:25:01,681
comprehensive plan. The

2209
01:25:01,681 --> 01:25:04,810
amendment to the Comprehensive

2210
01:25:05,952 --> 01:25:07,754
Plan is to allow for the

2211
01:25:07,754 --> 01:25:09,689
redevelopment of this project

2212
01:25:09,689 --> 01:25:12,559
at its existing densities, and

2213
01:25:12,559 --> 01:25:14,161
to allow for a higher F.A.R. So

2214
01:25:14,161 --> 01:25:15,362
it doesn't have to deal with

2215
01:25:15,362 --> 01:25:16,430
the provision that Judd was

2216
01:25:16,430 --> 01:25:18,264
referring to. I also believe if

2217
01:25:18,264 --> 01:25:20,233
that provision. I don't have it

2218
01:25:20,233 --> 01:25:22,201
in front of me right now, but I

2219
01:25:22,201 --> 01:25:24,737
think it says if it's a

2220
01:25:24,737 --> 01:25:27,207
waterfront property, the far is

2221
01:25:27,207 --> 01:25:28,975
you can have an far bonus. So I

2222
01:25:28,975 --> 01:25:31,143
don't think that it was saying

2223
01:25:31,143 --> 01:25:32,345
it was not addressing non

2224
01:25:32,345 --> 01:25:34,414
waterfront properties. I think

2225
01:25:34,414 --> 01:25:36,783
it was actually saying that if

2226
01:25:36,783 --> 01:25:38,180
you are a waterfront property,

2227
01:25:38,180 --> 01:25:39,619
you are entitled to this bonus.

2228
01:25:39,619 --> 01:25:41,287
You say that's correct a

2229
01:25:41,287 --> 01:25:43,550
mistake. No it's no I'm not

2230
01:25:43,550 --> 01:25:45,225
going to speak to judge the

2231
01:25:45,225 --> 01:25:47,327
veracity of Judd's statements,

2232
01:25:47,327 --> 01:25:49,329
but I'm just going to say that

2233
01:25:49,329 --> 01:25:50,930
if you put it was on the screen,

2234
01:25:50,930 --> 01:25:52,398
there was the word if at the

2235
01:25:52,398 --> 01:25:53,666
beginning of that sentence that

2236
01:25:53,666 --> 01:25:54,767
was neglected to be stated,

2237
01:25:54,767 --> 01:25:56,602
it's okay. Judd hasn't been

2238
01:25:56,602 --> 01:25:58,905
here in a while. Maybe he was

2239
01:25:58,905 --> 01:26:00,773
nervous, but it's. So that's

2240
01:26:00,773 --> 01:26:02,308
all I'm saying. It's not just

2241
01:26:02,308 --> 01:26:04,277
if your waterfront. It's if

2242
01:26:04,277 --> 01:26:07,180
your waterfront and grant an

2243
01:26:07,180 --> 01:26:08,248
easement. Correct. It's 7.5ft

2244
01:26:08,248 --> 01:26:10,648
easement, then you're entitled

2245
01:26:11,830 --> 01:26:14,387
to the far bonus to get you up

2246
01:26:14,387 --> 01:26:16,856
to 2.0. Have you ruled out. I

2247
01:26:16,856 --> 01:26:19,250
mean, another possibility is

2248
01:26:19,250 --> 01:26:21,961
that that lower far was

2249
01:26:21,961 --> 01:26:24,961
actually intended. I don't know

2250
01:26:25,565 --> 01:26:27,667
that. So the the first goal in

2251
01:26:27,667 --> 01:26:29,569
our master plan where we lay

2252
01:26:29,569 --> 01:26:31,270
out like what we care about in

2253
01:26:31,270 --> 01:26:33,273
the village, actually has a

2254
01:26:33,273 --> 01:26:34,874
sentence that says property

2255
01:26:34,874 --> 01:26:37,377
should be redeveloped at the

2256
01:26:37,377 --> 01:26:39,777
lowest possible density while

2257
01:26:39,946 --> 01:26:42,346
respecting property rights. So

2258
01:26:42,515 --> 01:26:44,618
there was definitely part of

2259
01:26:44,618 --> 01:26:46,153
when the village was founded

2260
01:26:46,153 --> 01:26:48,187
that I. That's why I think, you

2261
01:26:48,187 --> 01:26:51,187
know, a reduction to 30 units

2262
01:26:51,490 --> 01:26:54,490
per acre was intentional. Now

2263
01:26:56,162 --> 01:26:58,231
the.0.4 far is rather extreme

2264
01:26:58,231 --> 01:27:00,990
when the other properties that

2265
01:27:00,990 --> 01:27:02,235
are in this district are

2266
01:27:02,235 --> 01:27:05,835
currently. Some of them are at

2267
01:27:07,273 --> 01:27:10,873
already at 2.0 far. So I. To

2268
01:27:11,277 --> 01:27:13,446
say it's a mistake or not is in

2269
01:27:13,446 --> 01:27:14,814
the past, frankly, like we we

2270
01:27:14,814 --> 01:27:16,783
have it in front of us to

2271
01:27:16,783 --> 01:27:19,183
potentially change it. Jeremy.

2272
01:27:19,518 --> 01:27:22,756
Do we have a minimum size units?

2273
01:27:22,756 --> 01:27:23,857
We do have a provision for

2274
01:27:23,857 --> 01:27:26,257
minimum sized units. Yes.

2275
01:27:26,359 --> 01:27:28,950
What's our minimum? I would

2276
01:27:28,950 --> 01:27:31,640
have to check. I would have to

2277
01:27:31,640 --> 01:27:32,866
check 500ft. I the square feet.

2278
01:27:32,866 --> 01:27:34,667
Yeah. I think it's I don't I

2279
01:27:34,667 --> 01:27:36,502
don't know if we set a minimum

2280
01:27:36,502 --> 01:27:38,371
for studios, but I believe it's,

2281
01:27:38,371 --> 01:27:40,774
I believe it's over 500ft!S. And

2282
01:27:40,774 --> 01:27:43,310
if they develop this with the

2283
01:27:43,310 --> 01:27:46,310
0.4 would give you 465. I think

2284
01:27:46,512 --> 01:27:48,347
they said. So you say whether

2285
01:27:48,347 --> 01:27:50,417
0.4 was intended or not. If it

2286
01:27:50,417 --> 01:27:51,584
was intended, it was intended

2287
01:27:51,584 --> 01:27:55,184
to make units which would not

2288
01:27:55,588 --> 01:27:58,570
be conforming with our code. If

2289
01:27:58,570 --> 01:27:59,592
to maximize it, there is no

2290
01:27:59,592 --> 01:28:01,261
guarantee that you must

2291
01:28:01,261 --> 01:28:02,395
maximize your density on the

2292
01:28:02,395 --> 01:28:04,564
site though. Well, but you get

2293
01:28:04,564 --> 01:28:05,999
technical when you give

2294
01:28:05,999 --> 01:28:07,767
somebody a zoning that says 30

2295
01:28:07,767 --> 01:28:09,200
units day or 50, you have to

2296
01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:10,736
assume that you don't want them

2297
01:28:10,736 --> 01:28:12,720
to go above that, but you have

2298
01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:13,206
to assume economically, if it

2299
01:28:13,206 --> 01:28:14,641
makes sense, that's what

2300
01:28:14,641 --> 01:28:17,510
they're going to do. Typically.

2301
01:28:17,510 --> 01:28:20,130
Yes, typically. Okay. Yeah. So

2302
01:28:20,130 --> 01:28:22,182
I mean, we have cases of

2303
01:28:22,182 --> 01:28:23,616
buildings, even even the most

2304
01:28:23,616 --> 01:28:25,418
recent site plan getting built

2305
01:28:25,418 --> 01:28:27,818
below their potential maximum

2306
01:28:29,789 --> 01:28:32,625
density though. Thank you. Can

2307
01:28:32,625 --> 01:28:35,928
I ask just one question? Can

2308
01:28:35,928 --> 01:28:37,998
you come to the door to me was

2309
01:28:37,998 --> 01:28:41,334
I'm not going to speak about

2310
01:28:41,334 --> 01:28:44,871
what was intended or not, but

2311
01:28:44,871 --> 01:28:48,107
what is clear to me that I'm

2312
01:28:48,107 --> 01:28:50,277
m16 has a point eight. So if it

2313
01:28:50,277 --> 01:28:53,277
was intended, the intention was

2314
01:28:53,580 --> 01:28:55,981
to do smaller buildings with

2315
01:28:55,981 --> 01:28:57,617
more intensive use. Is that

2316
01:28:57,617 --> 01:29:01,817
what I hear you saying? No, I'm

2317
01:29:02,121 --> 01:29:03,556
just asking, that's all. No, I

2318
01:29:03,556 --> 01:29:05,792
don't I don't think we need to

2319
01:29:05,792 --> 01:29:08,628
get bogged down on on intent on

2320
01:29:08,628 --> 01:29:13,428
the far it is. It stands out as

2321
01:29:14,734 --> 01:29:18,334
being well, it stands out okay.

2322
01:29:21,941 --> 01:29:24,143
Okay. So. Council, what is the

2323
01:29:24,143 --> 01:29:25,511
desire? We know that we have to

2324
01:29:25,511 --> 01:29:28,511
jump through some hoops and

2325
01:29:30,650 --> 01:29:32,418
there's some obstacles here.

2326
01:29:32,418 --> 01:29:34,200
MR. One, one clarification. I'm

2327
01:29:34,200 --> 01:29:35,155
sorry. Yes. Did you say between

2328
01:29:35,155 --> 01:29:36,222
the first and the second

2329
01:29:36,222 --> 01:29:38,191
hearing would have to wait 28

2330
01:29:38,191 --> 01:29:40,920
days? Can we go ahead and have

2331
01:29:40,920 --> 01:29:42,280
a hearing on this? Can we have

2332
01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:43,196
a workshop on it and discuss it?

2333
01:29:43,196 --> 01:29:45,265
You have to between first and

2334
01:29:45,265 --> 01:29:47,100
second hearing, you would need

2335
01:29:47,100 --> 01:29:48,535
to have at least 30 days

2336
01:29:48,535 --> 01:29:50,403
because the Comprehensive Plan

2337
01:29:50,403 --> 01:29:52,905
amendment. But we can go ahead

2338
01:29:52,905 --> 01:29:55,776
and move forward with a hearing.

2339
01:29:55,776 --> 01:29:58,776
The first reading of this.

2340
01:29:59,379 --> 01:30:01,180
There's no item for for vote

2341
01:30:01,180 --> 01:30:04,830
today. No, I know, yeah, but

2342
01:30:04,830 --> 01:30:05,184
can we schedule. Yeah. So so

2343
01:30:05,184 --> 01:30:07,253
requesting a meeting for the

2344
01:30:07,253 --> 01:30:08,388
first week of SEPTEMBER. And

2345
01:30:08,388 --> 01:30:10,190
first, it boggles me that we

2346
01:30:10,190 --> 01:30:12,240
had an item and then we pulled

2347
01:30:12,240 --> 01:30:14,160
it. And that is a separate

2348
01:30:14,160 --> 01:30:15,261
discussion. But I think we need

2349
01:30:15,261 --> 01:30:17,129
to move forward with it. I

2350
01:30:17,129 --> 01:30:18,230
think it would allow us an

2351
01:30:18,230 --> 01:30:19,532
opportunity to talk about it

2352
01:30:19,532 --> 01:30:21,300
more in detail, not consume

2353
01:30:21,300 --> 01:30:23,469
tonight's agenda. But, you know,

2354
01:30:23,469 --> 01:30:26,406
the requesting for this to have

2355
01:30:26,406 --> 01:30:28,508
discussed on SEPTEMBER there, I

2356
01:30:28,508 --> 01:30:30,343
think I don't see unless unless

2357
01:30:30,343 --> 01:30:31,844
council has any objections to

2358
01:30:31,844 --> 01:30:33,579
that. Can we check can we give

2359
01:30:33,579 --> 01:30:35,470
the developer the, the

2360
01:30:35,470 --> 01:30:36,649
knowledge that we're going to

2361
01:30:36,649 --> 01:30:37,750
work with them and move forward

2362
01:30:37,750 --> 01:30:39,652
with an intention to move

2363
01:30:39,652 --> 01:30:40,720
forward, to try to come to a

2364
01:30:40,720 --> 01:30:42,188
positive resolution so we can

2365
01:30:42,188 --> 01:30:44,230
work on the project? I mean,

2366
01:30:44,230 --> 01:30:45,910
sure, you can have a discussion

2367
01:30:45,910 --> 01:30:48,328
tonight on and you can give

2368
01:30:48,328 --> 01:30:50,630
those remarks in. To answer

2369
01:30:50,630 --> 01:30:53,365
your question, I think really

2370
01:30:53,365 --> 01:30:55,334
the cut off deadline, I think

2371
01:30:55,334 --> 01:30:58,370
it would be around SEPTEMBER

2372
01:30:58,370 --> 01:30:59,872
10th to have a a first reading,

2373
01:30:59,872 --> 01:31:02,341
just to give you an idea. Okay.

2374
01:31:02,341 --> 01:31:05,941
So the decision is, I mean,

2375
01:31:05,945 --> 01:31:07,113
what is the I would I would say

2376
01:31:07,113 --> 01:31:09,490
either we could have it tonight

2377
01:31:09,490 --> 01:31:10,283
or move it for the requesting

2378
01:31:10,283 --> 01:31:13,883
for the first week of SEPTEMBER.

2379
01:31:13,887 --> 01:31:15,655
Isn't that what you said?

2380
01:31:15,655 --> 01:31:18,258
SEPTEMBER 10th is, is the the

2381
01:31:18,258 --> 01:31:20,326
last date that that that would

2382
01:31:20,326 --> 01:31:22,495
make all those 30 days, all

2383
01:31:22,495 --> 01:31:24,764
those hoops being jumped. We

2384
01:31:24,764 --> 01:31:27,200
also have to factor in that we

2385
01:31:27,200 --> 01:31:28,301
have a ten day advertising

2386
01:31:28,301 --> 01:31:30,701
requirement before the first

2387
01:31:30,803 --> 01:31:32,973
reading. So there's a window of

2388
01:31:32,973 --> 01:31:34,774
opportunity. I know, and it's,

2389
01:31:34,774 --> 01:31:36,542
it's really that SEPTEMBER 10th

2390
01:31:36,542 --> 01:31:39,178
is kind of the sweet spot, I

2391
01:31:39,178 --> 01:31:41,280
would say, for us to work with

2392
01:31:41,280 --> 01:31:43,383
the clerk and to work with

2393
01:31:43,383 --> 01:31:45,952
Jeremy and the applicant to

2394
01:31:45,952 --> 01:31:48,121
have the item ready. So are we

2395
01:31:48,121 --> 01:31:50,521
suggesting having a special

2396
01:31:50,656 --> 01:31:52,425
meeting to have whatever the

2397
01:31:52,425 --> 01:31:54,961
sense of the board is?

2398
01:31:54,961 --> 01:31:56,962
Obviously we want to do it. I,

2399
01:31:56,962 --> 01:31:58,164
I look, I think I'll be out of

2400
01:31:58,164 --> 01:31:59,265
town, but I think this was an

2401
01:31:59,265 --> 01:32:00,399
important conversation. I'm

2402
01:32:00,399 --> 01:32:03,399
happy to understand which one

2403
01:32:03,603 --> 01:32:05,304
at a time here. I'm sorry. Say

2404
01:32:05,304 --> 01:32:07,307
again, I'm out of town, but I

2405
01:32:07,307 --> 01:32:08,475
can zoom in and I'm happy to do

2406
01:32:08,475 --> 01:32:10,310
it. Okay. I'm here. I'm good.

2407
01:32:10,310 --> 01:32:11,478
I'm available. I'm here. I have

2408
01:32:11,478 --> 01:32:13,279
a question. There's a workshop

2409
01:32:13,279 --> 01:32:15,281
already. We have a lot. We have

2410
01:32:15,281 --> 01:32:16,883
a lot on. I just want to know.

2411
01:32:16,883 --> 01:32:18,585
I'm not giving an opinion. We

2412
01:32:18,585 --> 01:32:20,119
have a big schedule coming up

2413
01:32:20,119 --> 01:32:21,187
with budget. We have a lot of

2414
01:32:21,187 --> 01:32:22,755
workshops and different things

2415
01:32:22,755 --> 01:32:25,491
going on. Can I have some idea

2416
01:32:25,491 --> 01:32:26,626
of the layout of that? Because

2417
01:32:26,626 --> 01:32:28,270
we can't come every single

2418
01:32:28,270 --> 01:32:29,195
night. I can't is the workshop

2419
01:32:29,195 --> 01:32:30,564
already? You don't have

2420
01:32:30,564 --> 01:32:32,320
anything better? I do not, I'm

2421
01:32:32,320 --> 01:32:33,633
not coming every time. I love

2422
01:32:33,633 --> 01:32:34,767
the council, but I'm not coming

2423
01:32:34,767 --> 01:32:36,569
every night. But Nancy, just so

2424
01:32:36,569 --> 01:32:38,504
you're aware that it's 6:00 on

2425
01:32:38,504 --> 01:32:39,705
the 10th, we already have a. So

2426
01:32:39,705 --> 01:32:42,876
are we proposing to do it that

2427
01:32:42,876 --> 01:32:45,544
night earlier and maybe move

2428
01:32:45,544 --> 01:32:46,779
that meeting to to some further?

2429
01:32:46,779 --> 01:32:47,847
Yeah. MR. Mayor, we could move

2430
01:32:47,847 --> 01:32:48,981
that. We could move that

2431
01:32:48,981 --> 01:32:51,117
meeting. Okay. That would be

2432
01:32:51,117 --> 01:32:53,853
good. All right. Program to be

2433
01:32:53,853 --> 01:32:55,822
here. So I mean, I would make a

2434
01:32:55,822 --> 01:32:58,657
motion. We proceed to to go

2435
01:32:58,657 --> 01:33:00,794
forward. Okay. Second. Second.

2436
01:33:00,794 --> 01:33:02,595
All right. I think there is a

2437
01:33:02,595 --> 01:33:04,330
consensus of council. There's

2438
01:33:04,330 --> 01:33:06,165
no guarantee that we're going

2439
01:33:06,165 --> 01:33:08,565
to approve anything. We're

2440
01:33:11,237 --> 01:33:14,474
we're just providing for a a

2441
01:33:14,474 --> 01:33:16,309
path to make sure that we give

2442
01:33:16,309 --> 01:33:19,112
everyone an opportunity to make

2443
01:33:19,112 --> 01:33:22,382
their case. And so it will be

2444
01:33:22,382 --> 01:33:24,951
up to us to approve it or not

2445
01:33:24,951 --> 01:33:26,318
approve it. And based on the

2446
01:33:26,318 --> 01:33:28,554
evidence that you have in front

2447
01:33:28,554 --> 01:33:30,456
of you and it becomes a a real

2448
01:33:30,456 --> 01:33:31,758
zoning hearing at that point.

2449
01:33:31,758 --> 01:33:33,593
Right? Is that right, MR.

2450
01:33:33,593 --> 01:33:37,193
Attorney? Yes. So what I would

2451
01:33:37,864 --> 01:33:40,800
i think in order to try to have

2452
01:33:40,800 --> 01:33:42,235
second reading shortly after

2453
01:33:42,235 --> 01:33:43,636
that, we would have to have

2454
01:33:43,636 --> 01:33:45,771
first reading of the

2455
01:33:45,771 --> 01:33:47,606
Comprehensive Plan Amendment,

2456
01:33:47,606 --> 01:33:50,143
first reading of the text

2457
01:33:50,143 --> 01:33:52,543
amendment, and probably the

2458
01:33:52,645 --> 01:33:55,450
zoning workshop. The workshop

2459
01:33:56,248 --> 01:33:58,484
at the same meeting. Okay, so

2460
01:33:58,484 --> 01:34:01,484
that's SEPTEMBER after our we

2461
01:34:01,654 --> 01:34:03,590
have a budget hearing on

2462
01:34:03,590 --> 01:34:05,257
SEPTEMBER 8th. So so we really

2463
01:34:05,257 --> 01:34:07,426
have a very short window there

2464
01:34:07,426 --> 01:34:09,996
between the ninth and the 10th,

2465
01:34:09,996 --> 01:34:12,832
right? Yeah. MR. Manager. Yes,

2466
01:34:12,832 --> 01:34:14,266
mayor, obviously tight timeline.

2467
01:34:14,266 --> 01:34:15,701
The attorney has mentioned it.

2468
01:34:15,701 --> 01:34:16,769
So what I would ask, and

2469
01:34:16,769 --> 01:34:18,637
obviously we'll do that as well

2470
01:34:18,637 --> 01:34:20,606
directly, but I want to make

2471
01:34:20,606 --> 01:34:21,741
sure I ask you as well that we

2472
01:34:21,741 --> 01:34:22,942
ask the developer to show up

2473
01:34:22,942 --> 01:34:24,677
first thing tomorrow morning.

2474
01:34:24,677 --> 01:34:26,479
We got a tight line to turn

2475
01:34:26,479 --> 01:34:29,479
this around. Okay. We have

2476
01:34:30,116 --> 01:34:31,517
about a week. Consensus of

2477
01:34:31,517 --> 01:34:33,917
council. Consensus of council.

2478
01:34:34,787 --> 01:34:36,556
Yes. Chad, the state planning

2479
01:34:36,556 --> 01:34:39,920
agency no longer needs to

2480
01:34:39,920 --> 01:34:42,920
approve comp plan amendment. So

2481
01:34:43,462 --> 01:34:44,497
the. So the state Land Plan

2482
01:34:44,497 --> 01:34:45,564
agency or the Department of

2483
01:34:45,564 --> 01:34:48,564
Commerce is what they're called

2484
01:34:50,270 --> 01:34:52,710
now. They will provide their

2485
01:34:52,710 --> 01:34:53,573
commentary. However, they are

2486
01:34:53,573 --> 01:34:55,307
limited that they cannot object

2487
01:34:55,307 --> 01:34:56,710
to the amendment unless it

2488
01:34:56,710 --> 01:34:59,110
affects an important state

2489
01:34:59,612 --> 01:35:01,814
interest. So we don't have that

2490
01:35:01,814 --> 01:35:03,616
affecting any time yet. No, we

2491
01:35:03,616 --> 01:35:06,519
we will. So the way that it

2492
01:35:06,519 --> 01:35:07,921
works in practice is, is that

2493
01:35:07,921 --> 01:35:11,524
if there's if this were to pass

2494
01:35:11,524 --> 01:35:13,292
on first reading the next day,

2495
01:35:13,292 --> 01:35:15,428
Jeremy will transmit it to the

2496
01:35:15,428 --> 01:35:19,280
state, and then the state has

2497
01:35:19,766 --> 01:35:22,301
30 days to give their comments.

2498
01:35:22,301 --> 01:35:23,736
Presumably, if there's no

2499
01:35:23,736 --> 01:35:24,837
important state interest

2500
01:35:24,837 --> 01:35:26,973
impacted that the state

2501
01:35:26,973 --> 01:35:29,108
identifies or their agencies,

2502
01:35:29,108 --> 01:35:32,708
then we will proceed to to

2503
01:35:33,779 --> 01:35:35,314
second reading of the ordinance.

2504
01:35:35,314 --> 01:35:37,500
The only state interest I can

2505
01:35:37,500 --> 01:35:41,250
think of is lights out for bird

2506
01:35:42,121 --> 01:35:43,155
protection right at the moment.

2507
01:35:43,155 --> 01:35:45,555
Okay. Candles instead of

2508
01:35:47,827 --> 01:35:50,763
electric. Yeah. Okay. So, we'll

2509
01:35:50,763 --> 01:35:52,932
I'll have staff work with the

2510
01:35:52,932 --> 01:35:55,435
parties and, and see if we can

2511
01:35:55,435 --> 01:35:58,504
get it to the proper place,

2512
01:35:58,504 --> 01:36:00,439
which would be that SEPTEMBER

2513
01:36:00,439 --> 01:36:02,375
1st hearing and then a

2514
01:36:02,375 --> 01:36:04,744
potential second hearing first.

2515
01:36:04,744 --> 01:36:07,744
No, no, no. SEPTEMBER 10th

2516
01:36:08,180 --> 01:36:11,384
first. No, no. At the beginning

2517
01:36:11,384 --> 01:36:12,351
of SEPTEMBER. Okay. First week,

2518
01:36:12,351 --> 01:36:14,751
first reading. Okay. Is

2519
01:36:16,656 --> 01:36:19,560
everybody clear? No. Okay.

2520
01:36:23,562 --> 01:36:24,898
Right. MR. Mayor, Council

2521
01:36:24,898 --> 01:36:27,800
members, I just want to say one

2522
01:36:27,800 --> 01:36:30,669
more thing. I do have very

2523
01:36:30,669 --> 01:36:33,206
clearly that that you have not

2524
01:36:33,206 --> 01:36:34,674
said that. Of course you this

2525
01:36:34,674 --> 01:36:36,843
was to approve the project. It

2526
01:36:36,843 --> 01:36:38,311
was to treat it. And I'm very

2527
01:36:38,311 --> 01:36:41,311
grateful of that. Thank you

2528
01:36:45,451 --> 01:36:48,688
very much. Thank you. The next

2529
01:36:48,688 --> 01:36:52,288
item, MR. Mayor, is the agenda

2530
01:36:55,228 --> 01:36:56,428
approval deferrals. Oh. Oh,

2531
01:36:56,428 --> 01:36:59,131
wait a minute. And we're still

2532
01:36:59,131 --> 01:37:01,531
not finished with presentation.

2533
01:37:09,575 --> 01:37:12,780
Okay. It's eight. Already going

2534
01:37:12,780 --> 01:37:15,780
home. All right. Let's let's

2535
01:37:16,490 --> 01:37:20,849
see if we can move out. We got

2536
01:37:23,355 --> 01:37:26,355
more business here. Okay. Let's

2537
01:37:30,764 --> 01:37:33,164
take the conversations outside.

2538
01:37:33,566 --> 01:37:37,766
We almost had to fire you again,

2539
01:37:43,443 --> 01:37:46,279
though. But. The next item, MR.

2540
01:37:46,279 --> 01:37:49,279
Mayor, is the agenda. Approval.

2541
01:37:49,515 --> 01:37:50,984
Deferrals. Additions, deletions,

2542
01:37:50,984 --> 01:37:52,984
substitutions and withdrawals.

2543
01:37:55,210 --> 01:37:58,621
Okay, I have some deferrals. I

2544
01:38:01,600 --> 01:38:02,261
would I would like to defer

2545
01:38:02,261 --> 01:38:05,980
11b111b511b1. Yeah. Wait, just

2546
01:38:05,980 --> 01:38:07,498
my discussion manager's report.

2547
01:38:07,933 --> 01:38:09,335
Yeah that's wait a minute.

2548
01:38:09,335 --> 01:38:10,436
That's a manager's report item.

2549
01:38:10,436 --> 01:38:11,604
Yeah it's but they're my

2550
01:38:11,604 --> 01:38:13,373
discussion items. So I'm just

2551
01:38:13,373 --> 01:38:16,175
saying I want to take them off

2552
01:38:16,175 --> 01:38:19,775
the. Oh okay. I'm sorry. 11 b

2553
01:38:19,778 --> 01:38:23,378
one. And the other item 11 b

2554
01:38:25,251 --> 01:38:28,387
five. And then on ten d. I

2555
01:38:28,387 --> 01:38:31,624
would like to defer. And I also

2556
01:38:31,624 --> 01:38:34,160
move that we direct the the

2557
01:38:34,160 --> 01:38:35,628
manager to put out for bids

2558
01:38:35,628 --> 01:38:37,763
again, which is what we're

2559
01:38:37,763 --> 01:38:40,163
supposed to do originally

2560
01:38:40,199 --> 01:38:42,502
before today to try and get

2561
01:38:42,502 --> 01:38:44,237
some smaller local firms here.

2562
01:38:44,237 --> 01:38:45,771
I would, I would second the

2563
01:38:45,771 --> 01:38:47,673
motion on that. Okay. I'm good

2564
01:38:47,673 --> 01:38:48,941
with that too. I was going to

2565
01:38:48,941 --> 01:38:51,110
second as well. Okay. Excuse me.

2566
01:38:51,110 --> 01:38:53,279
You're pulling pulling the item

2567
01:38:53,279 --> 01:38:54,680
on this. Yeah. We're we're

2568
01:38:54,680 --> 01:38:57,800
giving instructions to the

2569
01:38:58,284 --> 01:39:01,120
manager to go redo, redo the

2570
01:39:01,120 --> 01:39:03,520
various consultants pursuant to

2571
01:39:04,560 --> 01:39:05,992
rfq. And in doing them with

2572
01:39:05,992 --> 01:39:07,827
small firms, we're going to

2573
01:39:07,827 --> 01:39:08,928
we're going to push for the

2574
01:39:08,928 --> 01:39:10,129
small firms. There's one more

2575
01:39:10,129 --> 01:39:12,980
thing you might want to suggest.

2576
01:39:12,980 --> 01:39:13,833
Why do we have to limit anybody,

2577
01:39:13,833 --> 01:39:15,680
anybody who wants to work with

2578
01:39:15,680 --> 01:39:16,836
us, why do we have to limit

2579
01:39:16,836 --> 01:39:18,471
them if they're qualified? Why

2580
01:39:18,471 --> 01:39:20,500
do we have to have a list?

2581
01:39:20,500 --> 01:39:21,707
We're ready to do a job. We

2582
01:39:21,707 --> 01:39:22,875
have people ready to apply.

2583
01:39:22,875 --> 01:39:23,976
Somebody else can apply. What

2584
01:39:23,976 --> 01:39:24,977
do we have to have?

2585
01:39:24,977 --> 01:39:26,345
Pre-Approved list. We have

2586
01:39:26,345 --> 01:39:28,114
pre-approved. Fine. Why can't

2587
01:39:28,114 --> 01:39:29,348
we take anybody else with a new

2588
01:39:29,348 --> 01:39:32,948
job comes up if somebody wants

2589
01:39:34,687 --> 01:39:37,524
to apply any reason not to. I

2590
01:39:37,524 --> 01:39:39,458
think the primary reason is to

2591
01:39:39,458 --> 01:39:41,127
have people on board so that

2592
01:39:41,127 --> 01:39:42,561
then you can move quickly. I'm.

2593
01:39:42,561 --> 01:39:44,300
I'm saying you have all the

2594
01:39:44,300 --> 01:39:46,430
people on board. Anybody's

2595
01:39:46,499 --> 01:39:48,735
applied now who meets the basic

2596
01:39:48,735 --> 01:39:50,570
qualifications. Okay, would be

2597
01:39:50,570 --> 01:39:51,704
accepted. But now job comes up,

2598
01:39:51,704 --> 01:39:53,506
we're going to go build a

2599
01:39:53,506 --> 01:39:55,908
boardwalk. I'm just making some

2600
01:39:55,908 --> 01:39:57,343
up. And Joe Blow Engineering

2601
01:39:57,343 --> 01:39:59,780
Company hears about it. And

2602
01:39:59,780 --> 01:40:00,980
they want to be they want to do

2603
01:40:00,980 --> 01:40:02,247
it and they submit their thing.

2604
01:40:02,247 --> 01:40:04,840
We like it fine. Why can't they?

2605
01:40:04,840 --> 01:40:05,718
Why are we going to limit

2606
01:40:05,718 --> 01:40:07,754
ourselves? MR. Mayor? We don't

2607
01:40:07,754 --> 01:40:09,656
limit ourselves. What this is,

2608
01:40:09,656 --> 01:40:12,570
is to get a pre-qualified pool.

2609
01:40:12,570 --> 01:40:12,791
We put it out so that we have

2610
01:40:12,791 --> 01:40:14,960
consultants that we work with

2611
01:40:14,960 --> 01:40:16,796
on a regular basis. Yeah, we

2612
01:40:16,796 --> 01:40:17,830
don't have to use them. We can

2613
01:40:17,830 --> 01:40:19,665
choose to go in a different

2614
01:40:19,665 --> 01:40:21,834
direction, put out an rfq, put

2615
01:40:21,834 --> 01:40:23,636
out an rfp and use another

2616
01:40:23,636 --> 01:40:25,371
contractor consultant. But what

2617
01:40:25,371 --> 01:40:26,472
this does do for us, and we've

2618
01:40:26,472 --> 01:40:27,807
used them quite frequently,

2619
01:40:27,807 --> 01:40:29,642
it's creates a relationship

2620
01:40:29,642 --> 01:40:30,776
with these firms so that when

2621
01:40:30,776 --> 01:40:32,645
we need specific things, we can

2622
01:40:32,645 --> 01:40:34,446
turn to them and actually do

2623
01:40:34,446 --> 01:40:35,914
the work with just a work order

2624
01:40:35,914 --> 01:40:37,684
versus going through an entire

2625
01:40:37,684 --> 01:40:39,785
contracting procedure. So it

2626
01:40:39,785 --> 01:40:41,387
simplifies our work. Kind of

2627
01:40:41,387 --> 01:40:44,987
what Ed is saying. I'm, I'm

2628
01:40:45,191 --> 01:40:47,393
wondering why if of, of all the

2629
01:40:47,393 --> 01:40:50,296
people or companies that apply

2630
01:40:50,296 --> 01:40:52,398
that you are panel deems

2631
01:40:52,398 --> 01:40:53,633
qualified, why would we not

2632
01:40:53,633 --> 01:40:56,200
accept them? Is there a reason

2633
01:40:56,200 --> 01:40:59,305
to only have three two. So let

2634
01:40:59,305 --> 01:41:00,440
me let me work with you on that.

2635
01:41:00,440 --> 01:41:02,375
Let's say there are 100. It's

2636
01:41:02,375 --> 01:41:04,309
okay to have 100. We don't have

2637
01:41:04,309 --> 01:41:05,410
100. I mean, no, no, but I'm

2638
01:41:05,410 --> 01:41:07,279
just saying, if there's just a

2639
01:41:07,279 --> 01:41:08,414
large number, is it is it

2640
01:41:08,414 --> 01:41:10,282
workable with a large number

2641
01:41:10,282 --> 01:41:11,351
when you want to use them, you

2642
01:41:11,351 --> 01:41:12,551
pick somebody. We can't. And

2643
01:41:12,551 --> 01:41:14,287
they say fine, work with them.

2644
01:41:14,287 --> 01:41:15,455
You don't make an agreement

2645
01:41:15,455 --> 01:41:16,522
with them. You try somebody

2646
01:41:16,522 --> 01:41:18,357
else. You go down the list

2647
01:41:18,357 --> 01:41:19,458
because you can't have them bid

2648
01:41:19,458 --> 01:41:20,826
against each other. Correct.

2649
01:41:20,826 --> 01:41:23,329
Chad. Yeah. This cannot be this

2650
01:41:23,329 --> 01:41:25,597
is under cna, right? That's

2651
01:41:25,597 --> 01:41:27,000
correct. You cannot they're not

2652
01:41:27,000 --> 01:41:28,434
allowed to bid against each

2653
01:41:28,434 --> 01:41:29,835
other once they're as part of

2654
01:41:29,835 --> 01:41:30,936
one, once they're part of the

2655
01:41:30,936 --> 01:41:32,936
continuing services agreement

2656
01:41:33,730 --> 01:41:35,608
pool. Correct. So it's who you

2657
01:41:35,608 --> 01:41:39,808
award it to from your pool. Is

2658
01:41:39,945 --> 01:41:41,614
that so it's the cna is a two

2659
01:41:41,614 --> 01:41:42,749
step process. You start and you

2660
01:41:42,749 --> 01:41:43,749
qualify based upon

2661
01:41:43,749 --> 01:41:46,149
qualifications. You might want

2662
01:41:47,486 --> 01:41:50,356
to tell the public what cna is.

2663
01:41:50,356 --> 01:41:52,157
Cna is the acronym for the

2664
01:41:52,157 --> 01:41:54,157
Consultants Competitive

2665
01:41:54,560 --> 01:41:56,729
Negotiation Act. It's section

2666
01:41:56,729 --> 01:41:58,729
two, 87.055. The Florida

2667
01:41:59,966 --> 01:42:01,768
statutes. And that process

2668
01:42:01,768 --> 01:42:03,202
dictates for certain types of

2669
01:42:03,202 --> 01:42:05,202
professionals, engineers being

2670
01:42:06,105 --> 01:42:08,240
one of them, that you need to

2671
01:42:08,240 --> 01:42:10,777
go through and first qualify

2672
01:42:10,777 --> 01:42:12,211
those professionals. Price

2673
01:42:12,211 --> 01:42:14,611
cannot be considered during

2674
01:42:15,810 --> 01:42:18,810
that stage. It's prohibited by

2675
01:42:19,818 --> 01:42:21,220
law. Once you qualify the

2676
01:42:21,220 --> 01:42:23,220
professionals, then you can

2677
01:42:23,220 --> 01:42:26,622
negotiate price. So it's a two

2678
01:42:27,393 --> 01:42:28,594
step process. And the once

2679
01:42:28,594 --> 01:42:30,229
they're selected and they're

2680
01:42:30,229 --> 01:42:31,297
part of your pool, as

2681
01:42:31,297 --> 01:42:33,297
Councilmember London said,

2682
01:42:33,466 --> 01:42:36,435
you're not allowed to say, oh

2683
01:42:36,435 --> 01:42:38,371
to one company, bid this job

2684
01:42:38,371 --> 01:42:39,606
and then go to another one, bid

2685
01:42:39,606 --> 01:42:41,374
the same job and have them bid

2686
01:42:41,374 --> 01:42:42,808
against each other. You just

2687
01:42:42,808 --> 01:42:45,770
have to just bid it and then

2688
01:42:45,770 --> 01:42:46,879
move on. But Chad, just what

2689
01:42:46,879 --> 01:42:48,581
you said. So now we have a list

2690
01:42:48,581 --> 01:42:50,750
of ten people for argument's

2691
01:42:50,750 --> 01:42:52,551
sake, and we're going to build

2692
01:42:52,551 --> 01:42:54,687
this big boardwalk we talked

2693
01:42:54,687 --> 01:42:56,488
about. And all of a sudden

2694
01:42:56,488 --> 01:42:58,658
somebody wants to be qualified.

2695
01:42:58,658 --> 01:43:00,460
So they submit. Why? Why can

2696
01:43:00,460 --> 01:43:01,527
they not submit their

2697
01:43:01,527 --> 01:43:03,290
qualifications at that point in

2698
01:43:03,290 --> 01:43:06,290
time? We're going to build

2699
01:43:06,665 --> 01:43:09,665
something. Well, so the point

2700
01:43:09,836 --> 01:43:12,400
of they can. But the point of

2701
01:43:12,400 --> 01:43:13,472
this process is that it's fast,

2702
01:43:13,472 --> 01:43:16,472
right? You have these people

2703
01:43:16,709 --> 01:43:18,544
almost on call, right? Yeah.

2704
01:43:18,544 --> 01:43:21,130
All I'm saying is that we have

2705
01:43:21,130 --> 01:43:22,781
this list and let's say we

2706
01:43:22,781 --> 01:43:24,317
selected everybody who applied

2707
01:43:24,317 --> 01:43:25,851
this go around, okay? And then

2708
01:43:25,851 --> 01:43:27,854
somebody else comes. Now we're

2709
01:43:27,854 --> 01:43:29,222
going to do a job. And Joe Blow

2710
01:43:29,222 --> 01:43:30,757
engineer says, hey, I'm really

2711
01:43:30,757 --> 01:43:32,191
an expert that I heard about

2712
01:43:32,191 --> 01:43:34,293
that I want to bid on that

2713
01:43:34,293 --> 01:43:35,427
thing. And he submits his

2714
01:43:35,427 --> 01:43:36,895
qualifications. Why can't we

2715
01:43:36,895 --> 01:43:39,332
get him at that point in time?

2716
01:43:39,332 --> 01:43:41,100
You can't do that. Why? Because

2717
01:43:41,100 --> 01:43:43,369
that's the purpose of the the

2718
01:43:43,369 --> 01:43:45,769
request for qualifications. And

2719
01:43:46,172 --> 01:43:47,640
you put it out on the street to

2720
01:43:47,640 --> 01:43:50,142
qualify x amount of firms at

2721
01:43:50,142 --> 01:43:51,944
that time. Okay. So in your in

2722
01:43:51,944 --> 01:43:53,379
your example, yeah, if we

2723
01:43:53,379 --> 01:43:55,914
weren't happy with someone on

2724
01:43:55,914 --> 01:43:58,150
our continuing services list to

2725
01:43:58,150 --> 01:43:59,519
do the job, the boardwalk, we

2726
01:43:59,519 --> 01:44:02,388
would the boardwalk, we would

2727
01:44:02,388 --> 01:44:04,556
have to bid it out if it, if it

2728
01:44:04,556 --> 01:44:05,959
was a project that, you know,

2729
01:44:05,959 --> 01:44:07,492
met the criteria for bidding

2730
01:44:07,492 --> 01:44:09,161
under the. Basically then we

2731
01:44:09,161 --> 01:44:11,296
could say every time we do a

2732
01:44:11,296 --> 01:44:12,431
job, anybody's interested can

2733
01:44:12,431 --> 01:44:14,431
submit their qualifications,

2734
01:44:15,734 --> 01:44:17,236
right? That would slow down the

2735
01:44:17,236 --> 01:44:18,804
process tremendously. That's

2736
01:44:18,804 --> 01:44:20,372
why you don't do that. That's

2737
01:44:20,372 --> 01:44:22,800
why governments have these

2738
01:44:22,800 --> 01:44:23,642
pools. I understand, but what

2739
01:44:23,642 --> 01:44:25,411
it does is it limits our

2740
01:44:25,411 --> 01:44:26,945
choices. And all of a sudden,

2741
01:44:26,945 --> 01:44:29,150
and excuse me, and it does

2742
01:44:29,150 --> 01:44:30,783
limit the contractors or, or

2743
01:44:30,783 --> 01:44:32,251
engineering firms that will

2744
01:44:32,251 --> 01:44:33,685
apply and will be selected.

2745
01:44:33,685 --> 01:44:36,956
There's a give and take with

2746
01:44:36,956 --> 01:44:38,190
with this with the speed of we

2747
01:44:38,190 --> 01:44:39,358
move so slow. I don't really

2748
01:44:39,358 --> 01:44:41,940
think it makes much difference.

2749
01:44:41,940 --> 01:44:42,996
Well, it, I mean you're talking

2750
01:44:42,996 --> 01:44:45,565
months between in that process.

2751
01:44:45,565 --> 01:44:47,266
Why does it have to be months I

2752
01:44:47,266 --> 01:44:48,467
don't you can. How long did it

2753
01:44:48,467 --> 01:44:50,569
take for this process? I don't

2754
01:44:50,569 --> 01:44:53,720
know, I believe we started in

2755
01:44:53,720 --> 01:44:55,308
MAY. Didn't we have the same

2756
01:44:55,308 --> 01:44:57,743
problem with, with with the,

2757
01:44:57,743 --> 01:44:58,944
with with git of course we

2758
01:44:58,944 --> 01:45:00,746
wanted them to do it. They

2759
01:45:00,746 --> 01:45:01,981
weren't on the list then. We

2760
01:45:01,981 --> 01:45:03,816
had we had to resolve that

2761
01:45:03,816 --> 01:45:06,850
issue. Yeah. But and we, we bid

2762
01:45:06,850 --> 01:45:08,254
it and it and it took time,

2763
01:45:08,254 --> 01:45:09,955
which is why six months, I

2764
01:45:09,955 --> 01:45:11,190
didn't take six months, but it

2765
01:45:11,190 --> 01:45:13,250
took it was not necessary to

2766
01:45:13,250 --> 01:45:16,495
wait six months like we did. So

2767
01:45:16,495 --> 01:45:19,431
we got to move. Yeah. Yeah. So

2768
01:45:19,431 --> 01:45:21,967
everybody is good with. No, no

2769
01:45:21,967 --> 01:45:24,136
we're not we're giving

2770
01:45:24,136 --> 01:45:25,938
direction. Yes to to come back

2771
01:45:25,938 --> 01:45:28,938
more small firms. Yeah. With,

2772
01:45:29,909 --> 01:45:32,345
with an, with an rfq that would

2773
01:45:32,345 --> 01:45:33,813
be pushing for the smaller

2774
01:45:33,813 --> 01:45:35,615
firms and also maybe another

2775
01:45:35,615 --> 01:45:37,450
come back also with another

2776
01:45:37,450 --> 01:45:39,251
method for selection committee.

2777
01:45:39,251 --> 01:45:41,487
Because what they did this time

2778
01:45:41,487 --> 01:45:42,422
to me says we need something

2779
01:45:42,422 --> 01:45:43,923
different. That's all. All

2780
01:45:43,923 --> 01:45:46,425
right. You got it. I'm sorry.

2781
01:45:46,425 --> 01:45:48,594
Can you repeat the amendment?

2782
01:45:48,594 --> 01:45:50,362
Selection committee investigate.

2783
01:45:50,362 --> 01:45:51,863
So mayor mayor. So so I

2784
01:45:51,863 --> 01:45:54,300
understand is so we want to

2785
01:45:54,300 --> 01:45:55,934
cancel this current one out and

2786
01:45:55,934 --> 01:45:57,937
and start over and then start a

2787
01:45:57,937 --> 01:46:00,937
new process. Make small to

2788
01:46:01,540 --> 01:46:03,342
medium size companies. Anybody

2789
01:46:03,342 --> 01:46:06,579
want to do a benefit to it,

2790
01:46:06,579 --> 01:46:08,380
give them benefit and then come

2791
01:46:08,380 --> 01:46:10,516
back with some recommendations.

2792
01:46:10,516 --> 01:46:13,520
Okay. Local presence as well.

2793
01:46:13,520 --> 01:46:16,652
Local. All those in favor? Aye

2794
01:46:18,457 --> 01:46:20,726
aye. Opposed. Motion carries.

2795
01:46:20,726 --> 01:46:23,162
Okay. On the agenda. Are there

2796
01:46:23,162 --> 01:46:24,930
any other amendments to the

2797
01:46:24,930 --> 01:46:27,330
agenda. You're still deferring

2798
01:46:27,500 --> 01:46:31,100
ten d now that we've direction.

2799
01:46:31,103 --> 01:46:33,380
Yes. Yes. Consent agenda. No

2800
01:46:33,380 --> 01:46:36,141
we're all those in favor of the

2801
01:46:36,141 --> 01:46:39,711
agenda changes I, I thank you

2802
01:46:39,711 --> 01:46:42,582
opposed. Thank you. The next

2803
01:46:42,582 --> 01:46:44,117
item is the consent agenda.

2804
01:46:44,117 --> 01:46:48,317
Hold on a minute. We we have

2805
01:46:49,488 --> 01:46:51,888
some presentations. I apologize,

2806
01:46:51,991 --> 01:46:54,193
MR. Sulu, are you here? Yes.

2807
01:46:54,193 --> 01:46:56,950
MR. DeSouza, is there. There's

2808
01:46:56,950 --> 01:46:58,531
two. MR. How can you MISS Him?

2809
01:46:58,531 --> 01:47:01,531
Oh, GOD. There's double trouble.

2810
01:47:03,102 --> 01:47:05,638
Double trouble. All right. I

2811
01:47:05,638 --> 01:47:07,720
this was happening, but MR.

2812
01:47:07,720 --> 01:47:10,276
Mayor just wanted to. Just a

2813
01:47:10,276 --> 01:47:11,877
quick privilege, please. I just

2814
01:47:11,877 --> 01:47:13,579
I just want to say to Robert

2815
01:47:13,579 --> 01:47:15,748
that a couple of months ago I

2816
01:47:15,748 --> 01:47:18,217
ran into into Derek and I asked

2817
01:47:18,217 --> 01:47:19,818
him about the academy, and he

2818
01:47:19,818 --> 01:47:22,555
was telling me he was coming up

2819
01:47:22,555 --> 01:47:24,323
in 30 years. And this for me is

2820
01:47:24,323 --> 01:47:25,758
deeply personal. You MAY not

2821
01:47:25,758 --> 01:47:27,526
know, but my daughter was it

2822
01:47:27,526 --> 01:47:28,660
was a time when she was growing

2823
01:47:28,660 --> 01:47:30,429
up. She was going through a

2824
01:47:30,429 --> 01:47:32,999
hard time, you know, and I

2825
01:47:32,999 --> 01:47:35,100
brought her to the academy and,

2826
01:47:35,100 --> 01:47:36,568
and your, your your group

2827
01:47:36,568 --> 01:47:39,204
really helped to bring her

2828
01:47:39,204 --> 01:47:41,106
confidence back and really got

2829
01:47:41,106 --> 01:47:43,109
her on her way. And I know

2830
01:47:43,109 --> 01:47:44,210
you've done a lot for a lot of

2831
01:47:44,210 --> 01:47:46,212
families of that incubus gain.

2832
01:47:46,212 --> 01:47:47,280
So to me, it was very, it was

2833
01:47:47,280 --> 01:47:49,115
very special. And I want to

2834
01:47:49,115 --> 01:47:50,382
thank you for all. Everything

2835
01:47:50,382 --> 01:47:52,217
that you do for our community.

2836
01:47:52,217 --> 01:47:53,318
As a father. I want to thank

2837
01:47:53,318 --> 01:47:54,420
you for your done for my

2838
01:47:54,420 --> 01:47:56,188
daughter. Even though after

2839
01:47:56,188 --> 01:47:58,524
yellow belt she went on to

2840
01:47:58,524 --> 01:47:59,725
fashion still. But I want to

2841
01:47:59,725 --> 01:48:01,527
thank you for that. Thank you,

2842
01:48:01,527 --> 01:48:02,728
thank you, thank you sir. Let

2843
01:48:02,728 --> 01:48:05,765
me read a couple lines here.

2844
01:48:05,765 --> 01:48:07,165
Whereas over the past 30 years,

2845
01:48:07,165 --> 01:48:09,200
thousands of students have

2846
01:48:09,200 --> 01:48:10,403
trained at the academy.

2847
01:48:10,403 --> 01:48:11,837
Hundreds have earned black

2848
01:48:11,837 --> 01:48:13,672
belts and generations of Key

2849
01:48:13,672 --> 01:48:15,672
Biscayne families have

2850
01:48:16,141 --> 01:48:19,141
benefited from its emphasis on

2851
01:48:19,412 --> 01:48:21,180
personal growth, self-control,

2852
01:48:21,180 --> 01:48:23,580
humility, hard work, and

2853
01:48:23,749 --> 01:48:25,749
community values. Whereas

2854
01:48:25,884 --> 01:48:28,421
Sensei Robert Zulu and a

2855
01:48:28,421 --> 01:48:31,324
Martial Arts Hall of Fame

2856
01:48:31,324 --> 01:48:33,724
inductee. Okay, 10th degree

2857
01:48:33,792 --> 01:48:35,260
Black Belt educator, author,

2858
01:48:35,260 --> 01:48:37,260
entrepreneur, and community

2859
01:48:37,430 --> 01:48:39,565
leader has dedicated his career

2860
01:48:39,565 --> 01:48:42,101
to mentoring young people and

2861
01:48:42,101 --> 01:48:43,569
adults alike and helping them

2862
01:48:43,569 --> 01:48:45,804
develop the skills the

2863
01:48:45,804 --> 01:48:48,204
character necessary to succeed

2864
01:48:48,908 --> 01:48:50,576
in life. And whereas today, the

2865
01:48:50,576 --> 01:48:53,450
Academy of Martial Arts remains

2866
01:48:53,450 --> 01:48:54,680
a family legacy, and whereas

2867
01:48:54,680 --> 01:48:56,482
the Key Biscayne has evolved

2868
01:48:56,482 --> 01:48:58,617
over the last three decades,

2869
01:48:58,617 --> 01:49:00,853
the Academy has remained a

2870
01:49:00,853 --> 01:49:02,621
constant presence, helping

2871
01:49:02,621 --> 01:49:04,560
shape the character of our

2872
01:49:04,560 --> 01:49:05,857
community and providing a

2873
01:49:05,857 --> 01:49:07,857
positive environment where

2874
01:49:08,394 --> 01:49:10,794
children become leaders, adults

2875
01:49:11,263 --> 01:49:13,310
build confidence and lifelong

2876
01:49:13,310 --> 01:49:14,801
friendships. Now, therefore, I

2877
01:49:14,801 --> 01:49:16,302
Joy Rascoe, mayor of the

2878
01:49:16,302 --> 01:49:18,404
village of Key Biscayne, do

2879
01:49:18,404 --> 01:49:20,804
hereby issue this proclamation

2880
01:49:22,410 --> 01:49:23,108
in recognition of the 30th

2881
01:49:23,108 --> 01:49:26,108
anniversary of the Academy of

2882
01:49:36,789 --> 01:49:40,389
Martial Arts. Hey! I have a

2883
01:49:43,328 --> 01:49:45,197
soccer speech. No. Okay. Okay.

2884
01:49:45,197 --> 01:49:47,266
I just have to tell you. You

2885
01:49:47,266 --> 01:49:49,368
know, I. Look, I'm going to be

2886
01:49:49,368 --> 01:49:50,502
presenting tonight and and Joe

2887
01:49:50,502 --> 01:49:54,102
Rascoe, and we're going to make

2888
01:49:54,840 --> 01:49:58,430
it work. And and, and, and, and

2889
01:49:58,430 --> 01:49:59,845
our, our our mayor, our past

2890
01:49:59,845 --> 01:50:01,680
Mayor Kaplan and, and, and

2891
01:50:01,680 --> 01:50:03,482
Brett and everybody's been so

2892
01:50:03,482 --> 01:50:05,251
supportive of the, of the

2893
01:50:05,251 --> 01:50:07,860
Academy. It's been great having

2894
01:50:07,860 --> 01:50:08,554
a business here. It's been

2895
01:50:08,554 --> 01:50:11,554
great bringing my family here.

2896
01:50:12,858 --> 01:50:14,226
My son's here. He's. And I just

2897
01:50:14,226 --> 01:50:15,394
very grateful for this village

2898
01:50:15,394 --> 01:50:16,995
and how they have welcomed us

2899
01:50:16,995 --> 01:50:18,630
and helped us build here. So

2900
01:50:18,630 --> 01:50:21,630
thank you very much, i

2901
01:50:26,539 --> 01:50:29,141
appreciate it. All right. Get

2902
01:50:29,141 --> 01:50:30,742
get get to work. E MR. Mayor,

2903
01:50:30,742 --> 01:50:31,944
just a quick thing. I need to

2904
01:50:31,944 --> 01:50:33,779
say this for the record and

2905
01:50:33,779 --> 01:50:34,980
make sure the clerk is aware

2906
01:50:34,980 --> 01:50:36,715
that I recused myself from that

2907
01:50:36,715 --> 01:50:37,817
discussion. The cna, I know, I

2908
01:50:37,817 --> 01:50:39,818
know was brought up as a

2909
01:50:39,818 --> 01:50:40,986
deferral, and all of a sudden

2910
01:50:40,986 --> 01:50:42,687
it became a vote quickly, but

2911
01:50:42,687 --> 01:50:43,822
it needs to be registered. I

2912
01:50:43,822 --> 01:50:45,724
already filled out the form

2913
01:50:45,724 --> 01:50:46,825
back in JUNE on that. It was

2914
01:50:46,825 --> 01:50:48,661
just everything was packaged

2915
01:50:48,661 --> 01:50:49,895
into one. So I just want to

2916
01:50:49,895 --> 01:50:51,764
make sure I put that for the

2917
01:50:51,764 --> 01:50:53,499
record. Thank you. Okay. Am I

2918
01:50:53,499 --> 01:50:56,135
driving this or how does this

2919
01:50:56,135 --> 01:50:58,170
work? Thank you. So just press

2920
01:50:58,170 --> 01:51:00,672
it. Okay, great. Okay. So hi,

2921
01:51:00,672 --> 01:51:02,842
my name is Robert. I am the

2922
01:51:02,842 --> 01:51:05,242
chair of the Educational

2923
01:51:05,411 --> 01:51:07,880
Advisory Board. I'm glad to see

2924
01:51:07,880 --> 01:51:10,416
that several of my board

2925
01:51:10,416 --> 01:51:13,286
members are here, including our

2926
01:51:13,286 --> 01:51:15,870
new candidate for council, our

2927
01:51:15,870 --> 01:51:17,487
principal Tarafa. She's here.

2928
01:51:17,589 --> 01:51:19,758
So thank you for everybody's

2929
01:51:19,758 --> 01:51:21,527
here to support what we're

2930
01:51:21,527 --> 01:51:23,290
going to be talking about. So

2931
01:51:23,290 --> 01:51:25,130
if you notice, my first slide

2932
01:51:25,130 --> 01:51:27,332
is the greatest asset. You know,

2933
01:51:27,332 --> 01:51:29,501
I'm here not just as behalf of

2934
01:51:29,501 --> 01:51:31,670
the Educational Advisory Board,

2935
01:51:31,670 --> 01:51:34,874
but we have done a tremendous

2936
01:51:34,874 --> 01:51:36,675
amount of of communication and

2937
01:51:36,675 --> 01:51:39,675
working with the community. We

2938
01:51:42,810 --> 01:51:44,250
did. Village, a full survey

2939
01:51:44,250 --> 01:51:46,418
that many of the parents were

2940
01:51:46,418 --> 01:51:48,587
involved in. We also had a, a

2941
01:51:48,587 --> 01:51:49,788
teacher survey. We had a deep

2942
01:51:49,788 --> 01:51:51,824
analysis of what the results

2943
01:51:51,824 --> 01:51:54,794
for the survey were. We have a

2944
01:51:54,794 --> 01:51:56,128
very, very engaged ptsa. We've

2945
01:51:56,128 --> 01:51:57,630
been talking to the district.

2946
01:51:57,630 --> 01:51:58,898
We've been talking to the

2947
01:51:58,898 --> 01:52:00,833
Leadership at the school. So

2948
01:52:00,833 --> 01:52:02,167
this is not just several people

2949
01:52:02,167 --> 01:52:03,902
that came up with a couple

2950
01:52:03,902 --> 01:52:06,302
ideas. The whole community

2951
01:52:07,173 --> 01:52:08,874
surged forward in order to for

2952
01:52:08,874 --> 01:52:10,420
you to hear the words that I'm

2953
01:52:10,420 --> 01:52:12,911
going to be saying. And that's

2954
01:52:12,911 --> 01:52:15,800
what's behind this presentation.

2955
01:52:15,800 --> 01:52:17,216
So I just wanted to clarify

2956
01:52:17,216 --> 01:52:19,184
that. So first slide, I think I

2957
01:52:19,184 --> 01:52:21,186
do this right. Yes. You told me

2958
01:52:21,186 --> 01:52:23,355
how to do it. Oh, here we go.

2959
01:52:23,355 --> 01:52:26,592
Okay, so we have the tale of

2960
01:52:26,592 --> 01:52:29,461
two schools. We have a very

2961
01:52:29,461 --> 01:52:30,929
successful school. And in our

2962
01:52:30,929 --> 01:52:33,329
school with our elementary

2963
01:52:33,432 --> 01:52:35,600
school, it is well attended. It

2964
01:52:35,600 --> 01:52:37,803
covers about 80% of our

2965
01:52:37,803 --> 01:52:39,572
population of that age. The

2966
01:52:39,572 --> 01:52:40,673
grades, as you can see in the

2967
01:52:40,673 --> 01:52:43,730
slides, the grades, the

2968
01:52:43,309 --> 01:52:46,309
performance are great and there

2969
01:52:46,412 --> 01:52:47,813
are rising. The it is an a

2970
01:52:47,813 --> 01:52:49,281
school, but we want to do

2971
01:52:49,281 --> 01:52:51,681
better. We're ranked pretty

2972
01:52:51,783 --> 01:52:53,985
high as far as the county's

2973
01:52:53,985 --> 01:52:56,122
concerned. And typically the

2974
01:52:56,122 --> 01:52:57,923
results of that elementary

2975
01:52:57,923 --> 01:52:59,425
education. We're getting great

2976
01:52:59,425 --> 01:53:01,594
feedbacks from the kids that go

2977
01:53:01,594 --> 01:53:04,463
to other programs. However, if

2978
01:53:04,463 --> 01:53:07,967
you notice our grades here for

2979
01:53:07,967 --> 01:53:10,903
the middle school are really

2980
01:53:10,903 --> 01:53:11,937
terrible. So something's wrong

2981
01:53:11,937 --> 01:53:13,738
there and we just have to

2982
01:53:13,738 --> 01:53:16,342
figure out it's very peculiar.

2983
01:53:16,342 --> 01:53:18,444
That's the same school, the

2984
01:53:18,444 --> 01:53:20,245
same teachers, the same

2985
01:53:20,245 --> 01:53:22,245
administration. What happens?

2986
01:53:22,781 --> 01:53:23,783
Why is this sudden drop in

2987
01:53:23,783 --> 01:53:26,183
performance for our middle

2988
01:53:26,752 --> 01:53:28,187
school? Next slide here. Okay,

2989
01:53:28,187 --> 01:53:30,723
good. And you can see what

2990
01:53:30,723 --> 01:53:32,491
happens with our this tells how

2991
01:53:32,491 --> 01:53:34,293
many students are in each grade.

2992
01:53:34,293 --> 01:53:36,462
And as soon as we get to sixth

2993
01:53:36,462 --> 01:53:39,331
grade, the whole thing drops,

2994
01:53:39,331 --> 01:53:41,301
the bottom drops out, and

2995
01:53:41,301 --> 01:53:43,701
everybody exoduses off mostly

2996
01:53:44,300 --> 01:53:45,805
to mass. So it's the the

2997
01:53:45,805 --> 01:53:47,973
parents are not choosing to

2998
01:53:47,973 --> 01:53:50,373
leave public education. They're

2999
01:53:50,809 --> 01:53:52,411
just choosing to leave this

3000
01:53:52,411 --> 01:53:53,345
particular school. So there's

3001
01:53:53,345 --> 01:53:55,345
something something's wrong

3002
01:53:56,248 --> 01:53:59,118
here. So that's what concerned

3003
01:53:59,118 --> 01:54:00,919
us. First, we agreed the

3004
01:54:00,919 --> 01:54:02,488
committee agreed to support the

3005
01:54:02,488 --> 01:54:04,857
elementary school and push them

3006
01:54:04,857 --> 01:54:07,590
to excel even further. But boy,

3007
01:54:07,590 --> 01:54:08,627
we had a very dangerous

3008
01:54:08,627 --> 01:54:10,629
situation because we're looking

3009
01:54:10,629 --> 01:54:12,464
at this school as a. And I

3010
01:54:12,464 --> 01:54:16,350
thought, I think we called it a

3011
01:54:16,350 --> 01:54:17,836
spiral death thing that was

3012
01:54:17,836 --> 01:54:19,638
happening. So let's see. Next

3013
01:54:19,638 --> 01:54:22,141
slide. Okay. Why does this

3014
01:54:22,141 --> 01:54:25,440
happen? Funding in this state

3015
01:54:25,440 --> 01:54:26,245
follows population enrollment.

3016
01:54:26,245 --> 01:54:28,114
This is really the end of it.

3017
01:54:28,114 --> 01:54:29,480
So if you don't have the

3018
01:54:29,480 --> 01:54:30,415
enrollment, the funding

3019
01:54:30,415 --> 01:54:31,484
disappears. If the funding

3020
01:54:31,484 --> 01:54:33,352
disappears, the programing,

3021
01:54:33,352 --> 01:54:35,988
everything just starts to fall

3022
01:54:35,988 --> 01:54:37,389
apart terribly. And so we have

3023
01:54:37,389 --> 01:54:39,791
to look at that. We, we, we're

3024
01:54:39,791 --> 01:54:42,791
very concerned about that next.

3025
01:54:44,530 --> 01:54:45,931
Okay. So what we what we think.

3026
01:54:45,931 --> 01:54:48,660
And it's not just us, but what

3027
01:54:48,660 --> 01:54:50,969
we think is in order to look at

3028
01:54:50,969 --> 01:54:52,772
this is to look at the pipeline.

3029
01:54:52,772 --> 01:54:53,972
What happens to the students.

3030
01:54:53,972 --> 01:54:56,408
They're all going to mass. Most

3031
01:54:56,408 --> 01:54:58,344
of them are going to mass. So

3032
01:54:58,344 --> 01:54:59,645
we have to look at the pipeline

3033
01:54:59,645 --> 01:55:02,148
and we have a decision to make

3034
01:55:02,148 --> 01:55:05,170
because if we don't take action,

3035
01:55:05,170 --> 01:55:06,452
the school is going to die. And

3036
01:55:06,452 --> 01:55:08,954
I've heard of things that they

3037
01:55:08,954 --> 01:55:11,954
would close it down within

3038
01:55:12,525 --> 01:55:14,694
months. So the question was, do

3039
01:55:14,694 --> 01:55:17,963
we want to lose our middle

3040
01:55:17,963 --> 01:55:19,764
school? Is that what we want?

3041
01:55:19,764 --> 01:55:21,467
Let's just close it. Who can

3042
01:55:21,467 --> 01:55:23,200
goes to mass and that's it. And

3043
01:55:23,200 --> 01:55:25,871
we and we'll just concentrate

3044
01:55:25,871 --> 01:55:28,774
on the on the elementary school.

3045
01:55:28,774 --> 01:55:30,309
And after a lot of great

3046
01:55:30,309 --> 01:55:32,411
thought and involvement with

3047
01:55:32,411 --> 01:55:34,179
the community, the goal is not

3048
01:55:34,179 --> 01:55:37,749
to just let it die. Let's,

3049
01:55:37,749 --> 01:55:39,217
let's really make a colossal

3050
01:55:39,217 --> 01:55:41,320
effort to see what we can do to

3051
01:55:41,320 --> 01:55:43,889
save it. Okay, so that's what

3052
01:55:43,889 --> 01:55:46,125
we're going to be discussing

3053
01:55:46,125 --> 01:55:47,859
today. Our first ask is right

3054
01:55:47,859 --> 01:55:49,694
down there on the bottom of the

3055
01:55:49,694 --> 01:55:52,131
slide, and I'll come back to

3056
01:55:52,131 --> 01:55:53,299
that real quick at the end,

3057
01:55:53,299 --> 01:55:55,434
which is to work with the

3058
01:55:55,434 --> 01:55:56,602
district to see about the

3059
01:55:56,602 --> 01:55:58,303
pipeline, because right now all

3060
01:55:58,303 --> 01:56:00,806
our students are leaving for

3061
01:56:00,806 --> 01:56:02,975
mass and, and we end up, we end

3062
01:56:02,975 --> 01:56:05,110
up with a dying school. So we

3063
01:56:05,110 --> 01:56:06,979
are just slightly adjust that

3064
01:56:06,979 --> 01:56:08,713
we have an opportunity to get

3065
01:56:08,713 --> 01:56:10,916
some population to get some

3066
01:56:10,916 --> 01:56:13,419
funding back, to really create

3067
01:56:13,419 --> 01:56:14,853
the same exact excitement and

3068
01:56:14,853 --> 01:56:16,655
success that we have at the

3069
01:56:16,655 --> 01:56:18,230
elementary level. Okay. So

3070
01:56:18,230 --> 01:56:21,623
that's, that's what the goal is

3071
01:56:22,270 --> 01:56:23,950
here next. Okay. So the, the

3072
01:56:23,950 --> 01:56:26,950
investment, it's going to cost

3073
01:56:26,365 --> 01:56:27,799
money. I mean, you know,

3074
01:56:27,799 --> 01:56:29,501
nationally, we're ranked at the

3075
01:56:29,501 --> 01:56:31,370
bottom regarding how much we

3076
01:56:31,370 --> 01:56:32,738
invest in our teachers and our

3077
01:56:32,738 --> 01:56:35,738
students. We're at the very,

3078
01:56:35,774 --> 01:56:37,609
very bottom or the top two

3079
01:56:37,609 --> 01:56:39,478
bottom of how we invest in. So

3080
01:56:39,478 --> 01:56:41,346
it takes money, but a lot of

3081
01:56:41,346 --> 01:56:42,447
the funding does come when you

3082
01:56:42,447 --> 01:56:43,682
have enrollment and that goes

3083
01:56:43,682 --> 01:56:47,282
up. We have to help though,

3084
01:56:49,210 --> 01:56:50,856
right? So next, we have had a

3085
01:56:50,856 --> 01:56:53,358
tremendous amount of help from

3086
01:56:53,358 --> 01:56:54,793
the council and also from the

3087
01:56:54,793 --> 01:56:56,995
community and also from the

3088
01:56:56,995 --> 01:56:59,131
ptsa. And we started since we

3089
01:56:59,131 --> 01:57:00,299
started just recently, we've

3090
01:57:00,299 --> 01:57:02,134
been able to accomplish a lot

3091
01:57:02,134 --> 01:57:03,202
of things. We have a new

3092
01:57:03,202 --> 01:57:04,903
computer lab. We've taken all

3093
01:57:04,903 --> 01:57:06,304
the old computers and updated

3094
01:57:06,304 --> 01:57:08,841
them. We actually had a

3095
01:57:08,841 --> 01:57:10,750
resident that came forth with a

3096
01:57:10,750 --> 01:57:12,411
$12,000 check in order to help

3097
01:57:12,411 --> 01:57:14,646
with the computers. The Stem

3098
01:57:14,646 --> 01:57:16,414
lab is reviving. There's a

3099
01:57:16,414 --> 01:57:17,850
brand new communications

3100
01:57:17,850 --> 01:57:20,352
program that has been brought

3101
01:57:20,352 --> 01:57:23,255
in by the district. There's new

3102
01:57:23,255 --> 01:57:25,230
fields, new scoreboard, new new

3103
01:57:25,230 --> 01:57:27,423
branding. Our new principal,

3104
01:57:28,260 --> 01:57:30,950
which she's incredible. She

3105
01:57:30,950 --> 01:57:32,495
she's getting an excitement

3106
01:57:32,598 --> 01:57:34,499
going. In fact, just this week,

3107
01:57:34,499 --> 01:57:36,202
she was in a dunk tank while

3108
01:57:36,202 --> 01:57:37,636
they were trying to raise money

3109
01:57:37,636 --> 01:57:40,139
for the school that night. They

3110
01:57:40,139 --> 01:57:41,607
raised $11,000. Most of it was

3111
01:57:41,607 --> 01:57:44,476
because people wanted to dunk

3112
01:57:44,476 --> 01:57:47,780
her. So she is popular. So all

3113
01:57:47,780 --> 01:57:50,616
right. Next. All right. This is

3114
01:57:50,616 --> 01:57:53,852
a plan that has come together

3115
01:57:53,852 --> 01:57:55,354
not just by a few people's

3116
01:57:55,354 --> 01:57:58,954
opinion. This is after a great

3117
01:58:02,961 --> 01:58:05,130
deal of work with the survey,

3118
01:58:05,130 --> 01:58:07,999
with a deep members of the

3119
01:58:07,999 --> 01:58:09,401
board, also by the ptsa, by the

3120
01:58:09,401 --> 01:58:11,971
district, by the teachers, and

3121
01:58:11,971 --> 01:58:16,341
so on to create a plan. How can

3122
01:58:16,341 --> 01:58:17,409
we affect the growth and

3123
01:58:17,409 --> 01:58:19,512
improvement of the school? How

3124
01:58:19,512 --> 01:58:21,347
do we go from a to a plus with

3125
01:58:21,347 --> 01:58:23,815
the elementary? How do we get

3126
01:58:23,815 --> 01:58:26,418
the the middle school from the

3127
01:58:26,418 --> 01:58:28,553
death spiral? Okay, you don't

3128
01:58:28,553 --> 01:58:30,880
have to look at all the crazy

3129
01:58:30,880 --> 01:58:31,222
numbers because it's going to

3130
01:58:31,222 --> 01:58:32,290
take a while for you to

3131
01:58:32,290 --> 01:58:34,226
understand this list. So I

3132
01:58:34,226 --> 01:58:36,195
don't want to go item by item.

3133
01:58:36,195 --> 01:58:38,163
What I do want you to take a

3134
01:58:38,163 --> 01:58:39,365
look at is that the bottom that

3135
01:58:39,365 --> 01:58:42,965
the the whole plan, the first

3136
01:58:43,369 --> 01:58:44,970
stage is that $635,000 that I'm

3137
01:58:44,970 --> 01:58:46,171
going to ask you for all

3138
01:58:46,171 --> 01:58:47,940
tonight. No, I'm kidding. Not

3139
01:58:47,940 --> 01:58:49,375
all of it. I have some

3140
01:58:49,375 --> 01:58:51,109
solutions for you. So don't

3141
01:58:51,109 --> 01:58:52,978
don't think I'm going to ask

3142
01:58:52,978 --> 01:58:54,280
you for the whole entire map.

3143
01:58:54,280 --> 01:58:55,947
We're going to dunk Ed. Excuse

3144
01:58:55,947 --> 01:58:59,547
me. We're going to dunk Ed.

3145
01:59:00,252 --> 01:59:02,354
Yeah, yeah. Yes. Okay. So we

3146
01:59:02,354 --> 01:59:04,523
got for the first stage of this

3147
01:59:04,523 --> 01:59:06,240
plan. Listen, if you want a

3148
01:59:06,240 --> 01:59:07,593
high quality school, it's not

3149
01:59:07,593 --> 01:59:09,228
enough just to fund it with

3150
01:59:09,228 --> 01:59:10,596
what the state and what the

3151
01:59:10,596 --> 01:59:11,864
county brings you. You got to

3152
01:59:11,864 --> 01:59:13,865
do more. And there's a couple

3153
01:59:13,865 --> 01:59:16,670
of schools in our district that

3154
01:59:16,670 --> 01:59:17,235
are raising $1 million a year.

3155
01:59:17,235 --> 01:59:19,672
Apart from the taxes, I know

3156
01:59:19,672 --> 01:59:21,840
about 46% of our real estate

3157
01:59:21,840 --> 01:59:23,342
taxes go into the school, but

3158
01:59:23,342 --> 01:59:25,430
it's just not enough. It's just

3159
01:59:25,430 --> 01:59:28,280
not enough. So how do we do it?

3160
01:59:28,280 --> 01:59:31,183
So number one, this is what the

3161
01:59:31,183 --> 01:59:34,453
ptsa has agreed to raise this

3162
01:59:34,453 --> 01:59:36,221
year. They've tripled, almost

3163
01:59:36,221 --> 01:59:38,230
tripled what their fundraising.

3164
01:59:38,230 --> 01:59:39,491
The community is very excited

3165
01:59:39,491 --> 01:59:40,592
about this. They've almost

3166
01:59:40,592 --> 01:59:41,626
tripled the amount of money

3167
01:59:41,626 --> 01:59:43,195
that they're raising, and

3168
01:59:43,195 --> 01:59:45,964
they're on their way to do that.

3169
01:59:45,964 --> 01:59:48,834
And so out of that 600 already,

3170
01:59:48,834 --> 01:59:51,234
they've committed to raise

3171
01:59:51,737 --> 01:59:53,737
324,000, which is terrific.

3172
01:59:55,674 --> 01:59:57,476
Number next, if you look at the

3173
01:59:57,476 --> 01:59:58,877
there's a bottom number there,

3174
01:59:58,877 --> 02:00:00,877
playground replacement and

3175
02:00:02,514 --> 02:00:03,915
outdoor spaces, $170,000. The

3176
02:00:03,915 --> 02:00:06,852
district has committed to doing

3177
02:00:06,852 --> 02:00:08,987
some of that, plus some of the

3178
02:00:08,987 --> 02:00:10,880
programing and that that you

3179
02:00:10,880 --> 02:00:11,490
see numbers up there,

3180
02:00:11,490 --> 02:00:14,250
everything that you see in

3181
02:00:14,250 --> 02:00:15,860
yellow. The ptsa said, count me

3182
02:00:15,860 --> 02:00:17,630
in. I want to help with that.

3183
02:00:17,630 --> 02:00:19,980
All right. So so we're not

3184
02:00:19,980 --> 02:00:21,199
alone looking at that huge

3185
02:00:21,199 --> 02:00:23,768
number. Right. And, and, and

3186
02:00:23,768 --> 02:00:25,471
guess the number. I think it's

3187
02:00:25,471 --> 02:00:26,704
one of the number when you want

3188
02:00:26,704 --> 02:00:28,774
to move into new community, the

3189
02:00:28,774 --> 02:00:30,475
first thing you say are the

3190
02:00:30,475 --> 02:00:33,111
schools. That's the first thing

3191
02:00:33,111 --> 02:00:34,545
you look at how the schools and

3192
02:00:34,545 --> 02:00:35,914
then obviously here, how the

3193
02:00:35,914 --> 02:00:37,149
beaches, you know, and how's

3194
02:00:37,149 --> 02:00:38,550
the how's the management, how's

3195
02:00:38,550 --> 02:00:40,218
the taxes? How's that? But the

3196
02:00:40,218 --> 02:00:41,786
number one thing is how the

3197
02:00:41,786 --> 02:00:43,555
schools. So we really have to,

3198
02:00:43,555 --> 02:00:45,324
to keep that in mind and how we

3199
02:00:45,324 --> 02:00:49,328
invest and look at it and work

3200
02:00:49,328 --> 02:00:51,463
towards it. Okay, so there's

3201
02:00:51,463 --> 02:00:52,865
two asks, number one, which

3202
02:00:52,865 --> 02:00:55,670
we've already had three

3203
02:00:55,670 --> 02:00:57,603
meetings with the district. We

3204
02:00:57,603 --> 02:00:59,771
want the council to support our

3205
02:00:59,771 --> 02:01:02,307
efforts to talk to the district

3206
02:01:02,307 --> 02:01:03,676
to see if we can adjust the

3207
02:01:03,676 --> 02:01:05,844
numbers, so they don't take our

3208
02:01:05,844 --> 02:01:07,679
whole population of our middle

3209
02:01:07,679 --> 02:01:09,810
school. So there's some

3210
02:01:09,810 --> 02:01:11,481
adjustments that they would

3211
02:01:12,684 --> 02:01:15,621
leave. We we work on building

3212
02:01:15,621 --> 02:01:17,560
two very, very good middle

3213
02:01:17,560 --> 02:01:17,823
schools. Which one is mast,

3214
02:01:17,823 --> 02:01:19,658
obviously, and then the other

3215
02:01:19,658 --> 02:01:21,693
one would be k through eight.

3216
02:01:21,693 --> 02:01:24,230
So we're asking the council to

3217
02:01:24,230 --> 02:01:26,365
support our continued efforts

3218
02:01:26,365 --> 02:01:28,267
to work with the districts to

3219
02:01:28,267 --> 02:01:30,335
adjust those numbers. The idea

3220
02:01:30,335 --> 02:01:32,104
would be to increase the slots

3221
02:01:32,104 --> 02:01:33,539
for high school. For Key

3222
02:01:33,539 --> 02:01:35,700
Biscayne, the high school

3223
02:01:35,700 --> 02:01:36,942
numbers would stay the same.

3224
02:01:36,942 --> 02:01:38,644
They're not going to be touched,

3225
02:01:38,644 --> 02:01:41,179
right? No. No. Yeah. 11 was

3226
02:01:41,179 --> 02:01:42,915
increase. The 1100 totality

3227
02:01:42,915 --> 02:01:44,149
stays the same. Yes. But yes,

3228
02:01:44,149 --> 02:01:46,151
to answer your question, yes.

3229
02:01:46,151 --> 02:01:47,252
You still want slots to be

3230
02:01:47,252 --> 02:01:49,870
available for kids coming out

3231
02:01:49,870 --> 02:01:50,322
of the gate? Yes, yes. So

3232
02:01:50,322 --> 02:01:51,589
that's a very delicate that's

3233
02:01:51,589 --> 02:01:53,325
got to be done just right. So

3234
02:01:53,325 --> 02:01:54,893
kids that are remaining in

3235
02:01:54,893 --> 02:01:56,228
sixth grade, seventh and eighth

3236
02:01:56,228 --> 02:01:57,596
grade, is that because they

3237
02:01:57,596 --> 02:01:59,130
can't get into mass. There's no

3238
02:01:59,130 --> 02:02:00,499
space available. Some. Is there

3239
02:02:00,499 --> 02:02:03,469
is there an entry requirement

3240
02:02:03,469 --> 02:02:05,270
for mass. Yes. So they're I'm

3241
02:02:05,270 --> 02:02:06,705
just thinking why all of a

3242
02:02:06,705 --> 02:02:08,874
sudden we'd have all these low

3243
02:02:08,874 --> 02:02:10,943
scores for reading, math and

3244
02:02:10,943 --> 02:02:12,510
science, unless the people who

3245
02:02:12,510 --> 02:02:13,946
aren't getting in probably are

3246
02:02:13,946 --> 02:02:16,946
the ones holding the numbers

3247
02:02:17,149 --> 02:02:18,216
down for the fifth grade.

3248
02:02:18,216 --> 02:02:20,510
Absolutely. That's one of the

3249
02:02:20,510 --> 02:02:21,519
reasons. Yes. So therefore, by

3250
02:02:21,519 --> 02:02:22,821
doing what you're doing is

3251
02:02:22,821 --> 02:02:23,889
really I don't see how that's

3252
02:02:23,889 --> 02:02:25,623
really going to boost those

3253
02:02:25,623 --> 02:02:26,858
numbers up. I think again,

3254
02:02:26,858 --> 02:02:28,360
either you're going to have

3255
02:02:28,360 --> 02:02:30,950
more people going from sixth

3256
02:02:30,950 --> 02:02:31,530
grade or seventh, staying in

3257
02:02:31,530 --> 02:02:33,464
the middle school, in our

3258
02:02:33,464 --> 02:02:35,434
school, or they don't. You're

3259
02:02:35,434 --> 02:02:36,635
not going to be able to do that.

3260
02:02:36,635 --> 02:02:38,470
I mean, these kids can't blame

3261
02:02:38,470 --> 02:02:39,604
them for not doing well because

3262
02:02:39,604 --> 02:02:41,640
maybe they just can't do well.

3263
02:02:41,640 --> 02:02:45,177
Right. Well, the the problem is

3264
02:02:45,177 --> 02:02:46,645
because of our reduced

3265
02:02:46,645 --> 02:02:48,790
population, we have reduced

3266
02:02:48,790 --> 02:02:50,281
funding, which we have a

3267
02:02:50,281 --> 02:02:51,717
reduced offer. I understand

3268
02:02:51,717 --> 02:02:53,152
that, but the point is that's

3269
02:02:53,152 --> 02:02:54,920
would that make somebody score

3270
02:02:54,920 --> 02:02:56,755
better in math or reading? In

3271
02:02:56,755 --> 02:02:59,324
science, if the programing is

3272
02:02:59,324 --> 02:03:01,326
good enough, they'll stay. Okay.

3273
02:03:01,326 --> 02:03:03,762
So you're saying ones that are

3274
02:03:03,762 --> 02:03:04,896
going to mass will stay instead

3275
02:03:04,896 --> 02:03:06,699
of going to mass, some will

3276
02:03:06,699 --> 02:03:08,633
stay here. Well, not all of

3277
02:03:08,633 --> 02:03:09,768
them will get in. I mean, isn't

3278
02:03:09,768 --> 02:03:11,737
mass like, hey, this is the

3279
02:03:11,737 --> 02:03:12,904
place to be. This is a great

3280
02:03:12,904 --> 02:03:14,390
place. Yes, yes. When everybody

3281
02:03:14,390 --> 02:03:15,641
still really want and the

3282
02:03:15,641 --> 02:03:16,908
parents want, they really want

3283
02:03:16,908 --> 02:03:20,546
to put their kids in masks. Not,

3284
02:03:20,546 --> 02:03:22,140
not always, not always, not all.

3285
02:03:22,140 --> 02:03:23,715
First of all, you have

3286
02:03:23,715 --> 02:03:27,315
proximity. So I don't have to

3287
02:03:27,352 --> 02:03:28,920
take my kid a, b. I don't want

3288
02:03:28,920 --> 02:03:31,290
my junior high school kid

3289
02:03:31,290 --> 02:03:34,290
mixing with high school level

3290
02:03:35,994 --> 02:03:38,497
thinking, okay, three they are

3291
02:03:38,497 --> 02:03:40,699
we we're much better at special

3292
02:03:40,699 --> 02:03:42,467
needs or special education

3293
02:03:42,467 --> 02:03:44,536
aspects that they cannot be.

3294
02:03:44,536 --> 02:03:46,771
There's no none of that service

3295
02:03:46,771 --> 02:03:49,208
at all at mass. Okay, so we're

3296
02:03:49,208 --> 02:03:50,609
strong in that. And I think the

3297
02:03:50,609 --> 02:03:52,911
failure has been that the

3298
02:03:52,911 --> 02:03:54,947
programing has not kept up many

3299
02:03:54,947 --> 02:03:56,114
of these programs. The good

3300
02:03:56,114 --> 02:03:57,483
ones are that when you get

3301
02:03:57,483 --> 02:03:59,284
through middle school, by the

3302
02:03:59,284 --> 02:04:00,585
time you're done, you've

3303
02:04:00,585 --> 02:04:02,387
already have several credits in

3304
02:04:02,387 --> 02:04:03,555
your high school and so on.

3305
02:04:03,555 --> 02:04:05,157
With the high school. When you

3306
02:04:05,157 --> 02:04:07,593
get to college, you've already

3307
02:04:07,593 --> 02:04:09,327
finished your first year in

3308
02:04:09,327 --> 02:04:11,129
college, so we don't have that

3309
02:04:11,129 --> 02:04:13,331
availability. Mass does, and if

3310
02:04:13,331 --> 02:04:14,766
we create that, then we could.

3311
02:04:14,766 --> 02:04:16,401
Those parents that want the

3312
02:04:16,401 --> 02:04:17,502
kids to stay, that want the

3313
02:04:17,502 --> 02:04:20,502
proximity, that want the bike

3314
02:04:20,673 --> 02:04:23,673
ride, that want the special

3315
02:04:23,775 --> 02:04:24,810
because there's some. Or the

3316
02:04:24,810 --> 02:04:26,612
special or the special needs

3317
02:04:26,612 --> 02:04:29,147
more focused in the, in the, in

3318
02:04:29,147 --> 02:04:30,982
the middle school, the kids

3319
02:04:30,982 --> 02:04:32,184
with special needs or, or

3320
02:04:32,184 --> 02:04:33,485
dyslexia or whatever they

3321
02:04:33,485 --> 02:04:35,254
happen to be learning

3322
02:04:35,254 --> 02:04:36,755
disabilities or no, it's, it's

3323
02:04:36,755 --> 02:04:38,156
not special. No, it's, it's,

3324
02:04:38,156 --> 02:04:39,425
it's across the board. I mean,

3325
02:04:39,425 --> 02:04:40,659
you know, that's what we're

3326
02:04:40,659 --> 02:04:42,561
trying to do some of that. And

3327
02:04:42,561 --> 02:04:44,596
there is some of that. And if

3328
02:04:44,596 --> 02:04:46,431
you look at some of the funding,

3329
02:04:46,431 --> 02:04:47,599
like I said, I don't want to

3330
02:04:47,599 --> 02:04:50,680
get into the weeds right now.

3331
02:04:50,680 --> 02:04:51,469
Okay. So all right. So I didn't

3332
02:04:51,469 --> 02:04:53,639
answer your question. Did I

3333
02:04:53,639 --> 02:04:55,474
know? It seems like to me

3334
02:04:55,474 --> 02:04:56,641
you're trying to keep school

3335
02:04:56,641 --> 02:04:57,809
going for people who really

3336
02:04:57,809 --> 02:04:59,677
don't want to be there, really

3337
02:04:59,677 --> 02:05:01,646
want to be in mass, but they

3338
02:05:01,646 --> 02:05:02,848
can't get in mass at this point.

3339
02:05:02,848 --> 02:05:05,518
So that's why they're there. No,

3340
02:05:05,518 --> 02:05:06,751
no, that's not the case. No. So

3341
02:05:06,751 --> 02:05:08,653
I'm going to lean a little bit

3342
02:05:08,653 --> 02:05:09,854
on you, Frank, so we can go

3343
02:05:09,854 --> 02:05:12,254
through a little historical.

3344
02:05:12,724 --> 02:05:14,526
Yeah, we did a good thing at a

3345
02:05:14,526 --> 02:05:17,290
time where we signed the

3346
02:05:17,290 --> 02:05:20,265
compact in the ila to expand

3347
02:05:20,265 --> 02:05:22,100
mass. We had overcrowding mass

3348
02:05:22,100 --> 02:05:24,203
also was looking for expansion.

3349
02:05:24,203 --> 02:05:25,303
We then partnered with them. We

3350
02:05:25,303 --> 02:05:27,472
created middle school there. We

3351
02:05:27,472 --> 02:05:28,907
created 1100 seats that were

3352
02:05:28,907 --> 02:05:31,750
effectively split almost in

3353
02:05:31,750 --> 02:05:33,750
half, practically about 150

3354
02:05:33,912 --> 02:05:35,781
seats per grade. Those seats

3355
02:05:35,781 --> 02:05:37,883
have stayed remain static

3356
02:05:37,883 --> 02:05:39,317
throughout the last 12 years.

3357
02:05:39,317 --> 02:05:40,785
Never been looked at again

3358
02:05:40,785 --> 02:05:42,588
depending on what the

3359
02:05:42,588 --> 02:05:44,756
population was. At the same

3360
02:05:44,756 --> 02:05:46,191
time, mass was going through a,

3361
02:05:46,191 --> 02:05:48,326
let's call it a heyday of

3362
02:05:48,326 --> 02:05:50,195
promoting itself as a rigorous

3363
02:05:50,195 --> 02:05:52,698
school, and the perception was

3364
02:05:52,698 --> 02:05:54,833
the only way to solidify your

3365
02:05:54,833 --> 02:05:56,968
place in mass in high school

3366
02:05:56,968 --> 02:05:59,537
was to get in early, meaning

3367
02:05:59,537 --> 02:06:01,573
leave this school early to get

3368
02:06:01,573 --> 02:06:04,176
early, and then be able to stay

3369
02:06:04,176 --> 02:06:05,977
and remain. That created a mass

3370
02:06:05,977 --> 02:06:07,790
exodus of which we've

3371
02:06:07,790 --> 02:06:08,880
effectively never recovered

3372
02:06:08,880 --> 02:06:10,749
from. So along with that,

3373
02:06:10,749 --> 02:06:12,818
exodus went funding. Along with

3374
02:06:12,818 --> 02:06:14,286
that funding went support and

3375
02:06:14,286 --> 02:06:16,686
went programing because the

3376
02:06:16,788 --> 02:06:18,523
children took off thinking the

3377
02:06:18,523 --> 02:06:20,726
only way to get into mass high

3378
02:06:20,726 --> 02:06:22,895
school, which also offered

3379
02:06:22,895 --> 02:06:23,962
proximity, a high school with

3380
02:06:23,962 --> 02:06:26,865
proximity, which, if you ask

3381
02:06:26,865 --> 02:06:27,999
most parents, will tell you

3382
02:06:27,999 --> 02:06:29,367
anecdotally. Speaking of 30

3383
02:06:29,367 --> 02:06:30,803
parents that I've spoken to,

3384
02:06:30,803 --> 02:06:32,360
many of them didn't apply

3385
02:06:32,360 --> 02:06:33,238
anywhere else simply because

3386
02:06:33,238 --> 02:06:35,874
they wanted their children to

3387
02:06:35,874 --> 02:06:37,420
stay close. Right? So this

3388
02:06:37,420 --> 02:06:38,410
created this downward spiral of

3389
02:06:38,410 --> 02:06:39,978
which we've never really

3390
02:06:39,978 --> 02:06:41,790
recovered from. Sylvia, I think,

3391
02:06:41,790 --> 02:06:44,790
was involved in the beginning

3392
02:06:45,217 --> 02:06:46,685
of that change. And so it

3393
02:06:46,685 --> 02:06:48,853
creates this chicken and egg.

3394
02:06:48,853 --> 02:06:50,622
How do we get better programing

3395
02:06:50,622 --> 02:06:52,570
to create a strong middle

3396
02:06:52,570 --> 02:06:53,758
school? If we don't get the

3397
02:06:53,758 --> 02:06:54,626
enrollment, we can't get the

3398
02:06:54,626 --> 02:06:55,761
enrollment without programing.

3399
02:06:55,761 --> 02:06:56,828
We can't get programing without

3400
02:06:56,828 --> 02:06:58,196
enrollment. Then we don't get

3401
02:06:58,196 --> 02:07:00,332
money. Back to my original

3402
02:07:00,332 --> 02:07:01,933
thing. So when you talk about

3403
02:07:01,933 --> 02:07:03,302
scores, you mentioned scores.

3404
02:07:03,302 --> 02:07:05,360
You'll notice in the line items

3405
02:07:05,360 --> 02:07:06,710
there is investment for

3406
02:07:06,710 --> 02:07:07,906
intervention, early

3407
02:07:07,906 --> 02:07:09,407
intervention, math and science,

3408
02:07:09,407 --> 02:07:10,541
which both make a huge effect.

3409
02:07:10,541 --> 02:07:12,377
And I think maybe MR. Raffa

3410
02:07:12,377 --> 02:07:13,479
could speak a little bit more

3411
02:07:13,479 --> 02:07:15,814
to that because she's more of

3412
02:07:15,814 --> 02:07:18,684
an educator than I am. I think

3413
02:07:18,684 --> 02:07:19,851
what's always lacked is this

3414
02:07:19,851 --> 02:07:22,287
opportunity for everyone to row

3415
02:07:22,287 --> 02:07:24,556
in the same direction. And so

3416
02:07:24,556 --> 02:07:26,658
we have an incredible eab that

3417
02:07:26,658 --> 02:07:28,260
then took a survey, went to the

3418
02:07:28,260 --> 02:07:29,861
parents and asked very detailed,

3419
02:07:29,861 --> 02:07:31,263
what would they like to see?

3420
02:07:31,263 --> 02:07:32,297
Number one, do they want to

3421
02:07:32,297 --> 02:07:33,832
remain in the school? The

3422
02:07:33,832 --> 02:07:35,000
answer emphatically is

3423
02:07:35,000 --> 02:07:36,935
absolutely. I happen to be one.

3424
02:07:36,935 --> 02:07:38,837
I have a fifth grader. I would

3425
02:07:38,837 --> 02:07:40,380
love my child to stay here and

3426
02:07:40,380 --> 02:07:41,390
walk that my child to school.

3427
02:07:41,390 --> 02:07:42,841
Throughout middle school, my

3428
02:07:42,841 --> 02:07:43,942
first child. I chose not to

3429
02:07:43,942 --> 02:07:45,770
leave here. Why? Because there

3430
02:07:45,770 --> 02:07:46,745
was a better option. Carver.

3431
02:07:46,745 --> 02:07:48,313
Better programing, more

3432
02:07:48,313 --> 02:07:50,713
rigorous, more preparing them

3433
02:07:50,816 --> 02:07:51,950
for success in some future. So

3434
02:07:51,950 --> 02:07:53,652
since then, what we've been

3435
02:07:53,652 --> 02:07:54,686
doing is just looking and

3436
02:07:54,686 --> 02:07:56,154
studying, talking to the

3437
02:07:56,154 --> 02:07:57,923
administration, the district to

3438
02:07:57,923 --> 02:07:59,591
understand and the families,

3439
02:07:59,591 --> 02:08:00,658
what do they want to see in

3440
02:08:00,658 --> 02:08:02,270
their middle school? Number one,

3441
02:08:02,270 --> 02:08:02,961
they want proximity for sure.

3442
02:08:02,961 --> 02:08:04,563
They want to keep their

3443
02:08:04,563 --> 02:08:06,231
children here, but they want

3444
02:08:06,231 --> 02:08:07,966
programing to very specific

3445
02:08:07,966 --> 02:08:09,434
programing, which is made up in

3446
02:08:09,434 --> 02:08:11,102
this list that's been created

3447
02:08:11,102 --> 02:08:12,671
out of a master plan that has

3448
02:08:12,671 --> 02:08:13,772
been made in unison in

3449
02:08:13,772 --> 02:08:15,573
collaboration with the eab,

3450
02:08:15,573 --> 02:08:16,642
with the survey, with the

3451
02:08:16,642 --> 02:08:17,642
families, with the

3452
02:08:17,642 --> 02:08:19,177
administration, and with the

3453
02:08:19,177 --> 02:08:20,979
district of which for the first

3454
02:08:20,979 --> 02:08:22,447
time I've seen since I've been

3455
02:08:22,447 --> 02:08:23,815
involved in the education,

3456
02:08:23,815 --> 02:08:25,450
everybody's rowing in the same

3457
02:08:25,450 --> 02:08:27,285
direction. Furthermore, there's

3458
02:08:27,285 --> 02:08:29,200
a problem in mass to which we

3459
02:08:29,200 --> 02:08:30,922
don't talk a lot about where

3460
02:08:30,922 --> 02:08:32,560
they have a wait list of almost

3461
02:08:32,560 --> 02:08:33,191
500 students. And so they're

3462
02:08:33,191 --> 02:08:34,993
having an issue as well, where

3463
02:08:34,993 --> 02:08:36,127
they have students that want to

3464
02:08:36,127 --> 02:08:37,261
get into the school. But

3465
02:08:37,261 --> 02:08:39,980
because of the allocation, the

3466
02:08:39,980 --> 02:08:40,165
way it's set up for us, they

3467
02:08:40,165 --> 02:08:43,165
can't because those are our

3468
02:08:44,200 --> 02:08:47,602
seats. So the ask here is

3469
02:08:47,639 --> 02:08:49,740
twofold. We can't require a

3470
02:08:49,740 --> 02:08:50,876
reallocation of seats to focus

3471
02:08:50,876 --> 02:08:53,378
on high school and middle

3472
02:08:53,378 --> 02:08:55,179
school unless we give them the

3473
02:08:55,179 --> 02:08:56,281
families a rigorous alternative,

3474
02:08:56,281 --> 02:08:58,450
of which they can still get

3475
02:08:58,450 --> 02:09:00,151
great education, but still

3476
02:09:00,151 --> 02:09:01,286
ensure that they can get in at

3477
02:09:01,286 --> 02:09:03,488
a second entry point, which is

3478
02:09:03,488 --> 02:09:04,890
ninth grade. So the ask is

3479
02:09:04,890 --> 02:09:06,230
twofold. Number one, look at an

3480
02:09:06,230 --> 02:09:08,860
Ela that nobody's ever looked

3481
02:09:08,860 --> 02:09:10,280
at for the last 12 years to see

3482
02:09:10,280 --> 02:09:11,363
what is that rebalancing of

3483
02:09:11,363 --> 02:09:13,763
that reallocation look like.

3484
02:09:13,898 --> 02:09:16,680
And number two, that investment

3485
02:09:16,680 --> 02:09:17,335
that will kick start this

3486
02:09:17,335 --> 02:09:19,370
ability to get some programing,

3487
02:09:19,370 --> 02:09:20,939
to get parents to actually want

3488
02:09:20,939 --> 02:09:22,808
to stay because the programing

3489
02:09:22,808 --> 02:09:23,909
is rigorous. So a couple of

3490
02:09:23,909 --> 02:09:26,445
things have happened that have

3491
02:09:26,445 --> 02:09:28,680
helped us. Number one, in order

3492
02:09:28,680 --> 02:09:31,216
to secure success in high

3493
02:09:31,216 --> 02:09:32,650
school, you want to career path

3494
02:09:32,650 --> 02:09:34,787
the child to make sure that

3495
02:09:34,787 --> 02:09:36,221
their next step from here is

3496
02:09:36,221 --> 02:09:38,230
successful into a program like

3497
02:09:38,230 --> 02:09:40,359
Mast. So we just received a new

3498
02:09:40,359 --> 02:09:42,360
ap assistant principal, happens

3499
02:09:42,360 --> 02:09:44,195
to be an ap that came from mast.

3500
02:09:44,195 --> 02:09:45,264
His own words were one of the

3501
02:09:45,264 --> 02:09:46,765
biggest reasons people come to

3502
02:09:46,765 --> 02:09:48,233
mast is because children in

3503
02:09:48,233 --> 02:09:50,602
middle school can receive high

3504
02:09:50,602 --> 02:09:52,700
school credits. Through our

3505
02:09:52,700 --> 02:09:53,504
program, we've already

3506
02:09:53,504 --> 02:09:55,707
initiated that same program.

3507
02:09:55,707 --> 02:09:56,741
And actually they can they can

3508
02:09:56,741 --> 02:09:57,976
receive more high school

3509
02:09:57,976 --> 02:09:59,110
credits in the program. They're

3510
02:09:59,110 --> 02:10:00,879
about to launch here at the

3511
02:10:00,879 --> 02:10:02,146
middle school than even at the

3512
02:10:02,146 --> 02:10:03,140
Mast Middle school. The

3513
02:10:03,140 --> 02:10:04,816
district has come forward and

3514
02:10:04,816 --> 02:10:05,917
said, we are even looking at

3515
02:10:05,917 --> 02:10:07,418
possible now, adding some maybe

3516
02:10:07,418 --> 02:10:08,953
dual enrollment opportunities.

3517
02:10:08,953 --> 02:10:11,656
Et cetera. Et cetera. So the

3518
02:10:11,656 --> 02:10:12,824
programing is starting. When we

3519
02:10:12,824 --> 02:10:14,626
went to the district, we

3520
02:10:14,626 --> 02:10:16,628
weren't sure what we were going

3521
02:10:16,628 --> 02:10:18,530
to get as far as what are some

3522
02:10:18,530 --> 02:10:19,697
of the ideas. But we went and

3523
02:10:19,697 --> 02:10:20,766
told them that our families

3524
02:10:20,766 --> 02:10:21,767
want to keep their middle

3525
02:10:21,767 --> 02:10:23,535
school. Everybody wants to keep

3526
02:10:23,535 --> 02:10:24,703
their middle school. That's all

3527
02:10:24,703 --> 02:10:25,871
they really needed to hear, to

3528
02:10:25,871 --> 02:10:28,106
get the motivation to really

3529
02:10:28,106 --> 02:10:30,308
want to help. We have a pta,

3530
02:10:30,308 --> 02:10:33,177
just anecdotally, that over the

3531
02:10:33,177 --> 02:10:34,312
last three years has raised

3532
02:10:34,312 --> 02:10:35,647
between 140 and $150,000 every

3533
02:10:35,647 --> 02:10:38,516
year annually. This pta is

3534
02:10:38,516 --> 02:10:40,685
committed to 325,000. They just

3535
02:10:40,685 --> 02:10:42,454
put in they just put together a

3536
02:10:42,454 --> 02:10:44,289
first annual event, a community

3537
02:10:44,289 --> 02:10:45,724
event that we've never done. It

3538
02:10:45,724 --> 02:10:46,658
was probably the single largest

3539
02:10:46,658 --> 02:10:48,960
event that's ever happened at

3540
02:10:48,960 --> 02:10:51,960
the Ccbc. Thousands of children,

3541
02:10:51,997 --> 02:10:54,997
they were able to raise $11,000

3542
02:10:55,100 --> 02:10:56,501
just from a dunk tank and food.

3543
02:10:56,501 --> 02:10:58,103
So they were offering hot dogs.

3544
02:10:58,103 --> 02:11:00,905
And the idea was to introduce

3545
02:11:00,905 --> 02:11:02,641
in two hours, in two hours. So

3546
02:11:02,641 --> 02:11:04,877
the idea was to introduce this

3547
02:11:04,877 --> 02:11:08,477
community to what we have, what

3548
02:11:08,780 --> 02:11:10,449
the school is. And so, you know,

3549
02:11:10,449 --> 02:11:12,384
I came to this island, and one

3550
02:11:12,384 --> 02:11:14,519
thing I can say is that we're

3551
02:11:14,519 --> 02:11:16,519
surrounded by exceptionalism.

3552
02:11:16,654 --> 02:11:17,522
This is no different. This is

3553
02:11:17,522 --> 02:11:19,240
something I've never seen

3554
02:11:19,240 --> 02:11:21,250
before in the eight years that

3555
02:11:21,250 --> 02:11:23,528
I've been working on education

3556
02:11:23,528 --> 02:11:26,431
or trying to better it for my

3557
02:11:26,431 --> 02:11:28,566
kids, for kids in general, the

3558
02:11:28,566 --> 02:11:31,690
momentum we have is incredible.

3559
02:11:31,690 --> 02:11:32,504
Our chairs doing a great job. I

3560
02:11:32,504 --> 02:11:33,939
think this is a real

3561
02:11:33,939 --> 02:11:36,141
opportunity. Now. It MAY be the

3562
02:11:36,141 --> 02:11:37,609
last ditch effort to really

3563
02:11:37,609 --> 02:11:39,377
turn this school much better

3564
02:11:39,377 --> 02:11:40,812
than just good enough. This

3565
02:11:40,812 --> 02:11:42,948
could be an exceptional school.

3566
02:11:42,948 --> 02:11:44,783
The elementary is great and the

3567
02:11:44,783 --> 02:11:46,584
funnel is growing every day.

3568
02:11:46,584 --> 02:11:49,588
Five years ago we had one pre-k,

3569
02:11:49,588 --> 02:11:51,189
four class. We have three pre-k,

3570
02:11:51,189 --> 02:11:52,560
four classes. There's even

3571
02:11:52,560 --> 02:11:54,456
conversation about creating a

3572
02:11:55,594 --> 02:11:57,362
pre-k three. So the funnel is

3573
02:11:57,362 --> 02:12:00,362
healthy. We actually have an

3574
02:12:01,700 --> 02:12:02,768
opportunity here to turn this

3575
02:12:02,768 --> 02:12:05,168
narrative that public schools

3576
02:12:06,738 --> 02:12:08,506
are slowly dying. Maybe public

3577
02:12:08,506 --> 02:12:09,974
schools, but not our community

3578
02:12:09,974 --> 02:12:12,374
school. And everybody's getting

3579
02:12:12,844 --> 02:12:15,413
on board and the energy is

3580
02:12:15,413 --> 02:12:17,181
palpable. And I think that what

3581
02:12:17,181 --> 02:12:18,650
Robert's helped us do, I think

3582
02:12:18,650 --> 02:12:20,786
what Sylvia's on the eib as

3583
02:12:20,786 --> 02:12:22,320
well. We have an incredible eab.

3584
02:12:22,320 --> 02:12:23,989
The administration is great.

3585
02:12:23,989 --> 02:12:26,624
Our principal got into the dunk

3586
02:12:26,624 --> 02:12:28,160
tank. I mean, they're all

3587
02:12:28,160 --> 02:12:29,361
working together. Everybody's

3588
02:12:29,361 --> 02:12:32,297
rowing in the same direction.

3589
02:12:32,297 --> 02:12:33,732
So the ask is not money

3590
02:12:33,732 --> 02:12:35,533
necessarily. It's just this

3591
02:12:35,533 --> 02:12:37,100
council to make a stand and say,

3592
02:12:37,100 --> 02:12:38,803
we want to stand for our middle

3593
02:12:38,803 --> 02:12:40,380
school. We want to stand for

3594
02:12:40,380 --> 02:12:41,873
our k-8. We don't want to lose

3595
02:12:41,873 --> 02:12:43,740
our k, and we're going to

3596
02:12:43,740 --> 02:12:44,876
support it in every way, any

3597
02:12:44,876 --> 02:12:46,811
way we can. My question is,

3598
02:12:46,811 --> 02:12:48,130
have you done a survey to find

3599
02:12:48,130 --> 02:12:49,915
out of these people who are in

3600
02:12:49,915 --> 02:12:51,160
the six who have stayed here,

3601
02:12:51,160 --> 02:12:52,884
who've not gone to mass, if

3602
02:12:52,884 --> 02:12:54,786
they could go to mass, would

3603
02:12:54,786 --> 02:12:56,421
they want to go to mass today?

3604
02:12:56,421 --> 02:12:57,488
Yes. You've done that survey.

3605
02:12:57,488 --> 02:12:59,124
Yes people do. The answer is

3606
02:12:59,124 --> 02:13:00,225
yes, because there's a waitlist.

3607
02:13:00,225 --> 02:13:02,561
And actually two children just

3608
02:13:02,561 --> 02:13:03,796
left k-8 to go to mass. So in

3609
02:13:03,796 --> 02:13:05,290
other words, the only reason

3610
02:13:05,290 --> 02:13:07,232
they're here is because they

3611
02:13:07,232 --> 02:13:09,467
can't get into mass today. Yes.

3612
02:13:09,467 --> 02:13:11,570
Yesterday. Yes. Okay. Tomorrow.

3613
02:13:11,570 --> 02:13:13,839
No, that was not the case.

3614
02:13:13,839 --> 02:13:16,541
Historically. No. You said it's

3615
02:13:16,541 --> 02:13:17,943
not the case. I don't think so.

3616
02:13:17,943 --> 02:13:20,512
I think to ask the people to

3617
02:13:20,512 --> 02:13:21,380
find out. I think we have. One

3618
02:13:21,380 --> 02:13:23,480
thing that changed was that's

3619
02:13:23,480 --> 02:13:24,516
why I answered so confidently.

3620
02:13:24,516 --> 02:13:25,651
That turned out to be more

3621
02:13:25,651 --> 02:13:28,860
successful than it might have

3622
02:13:28,860 --> 02:13:29,955
been envisioned 13 years ago.

3623
02:13:29,955 --> 02:13:32,690
But the other was anxiety about

3624
02:13:32,690 --> 02:13:33,791
getting into mass. And if you

3625
02:13:33,791 --> 02:13:35,660
didn't take advantage of that

3626
02:13:35,660 --> 02:13:37,620
middle school slot, yep, you

3627
02:13:37,620 --> 02:13:39,598
weren't going to get into high

3628
02:13:39,598 --> 02:13:42,100
school. But no one's talking

3629
02:13:42,100 --> 02:13:43,568
about the other issue, which we

3630
02:13:43,568 --> 02:13:45,336
really can't debate tonight.

3631
02:13:45,336 --> 02:13:46,772
But the the stipend that you

3632
02:13:46,772 --> 02:13:48,473
get for going to private school,

3633
02:13:48,473 --> 02:13:49,674
going to Saint Agnes, going to

3634
02:13:49,674 --> 02:13:50,876
some of the other schools. So

3635
02:13:50,876 --> 02:13:52,210
the reduced enrollment across

3636
02:13:52,210 --> 02:13:54,746
the district is something real

3637
02:13:54,746 --> 02:13:56,140
it's causing for sure, for sure.

3638
02:13:56,140 --> 02:13:57,883
You know, but I will tell you,

3639
02:13:57,883 --> 02:14:00,819
we use every single one of our

3640
02:14:00,819 --> 02:14:02,587
1100 seats, so there's no lack

3641
02:14:02,587 --> 02:14:05,587
of students to actually fill

3642
02:14:05,857 --> 02:14:07,326
both programs. What there is,

3643
02:14:07,326 --> 02:14:09,861
is there's lack of programing

3644
02:14:09,861 --> 02:14:12,300
and support yesterday. Not

3645
02:14:12,300 --> 02:14:13,831
today, not tomorrow. As long as

3646
02:14:13,831 --> 02:14:15,330
we have the chair and the ab

3647
02:14:15,330 --> 02:14:16,134
working and continuing to do

3648
02:14:16,134 --> 02:14:18,503
the work that they're doing

3649
02:14:18,503 --> 02:14:20,972
with the council's help, I

3650
02:14:20,972 --> 02:14:23,809
think these asks are really a

3651
02:14:23,809 --> 02:14:25,644
continuation of our commitments,

3652
02:14:25,644 --> 02:14:28,120
plural, that have persisted for

3653
02:14:28,120 --> 02:14:29,314
a long time. And I personally

3654
02:14:29,314 --> 02:14:31,820
am invested in what you're

3655
02:14:31,820 --> 02:14:33,318
trying to achieve, and I'll

3656
02:14:33,318 --> 02:14:35,721
continue to support and thank

3657
02:14:35,721 --> 02:14:38,290
you. I think these are

3658
02:14:38,290 --> 02:14:40,859
essential ideas, not good ideas.

3659
02:14:40,859 --> 02:14:42,226
They're essential ideas. So all

3660
02:14:42,226 --> 02:14:45,970
right, let's bring this to a

3661
02:14:45,970 --> 02:14:46,898
landing. Okay, so very simple.

3662
02:14:46,898 --> 02:14:48,933
We're continuing to talk with

3663
02:14:48,933 --> 02:14:51,202
the district. The first thing

3664
02:14:51,202 --> 02:14:52,670
we would like is to have the

3665
02:14:52,670 --> 02:14:54,439
council agree that we continue

3666
02:14:54,439 --> 02:14:56,508
that work in order to adjust

3667
02:14:56,508 --> 02:14:57,642
that pipeline. So some of the

3668
02:14:57,642 --> 02:14:59,878
students would stay on and we

3669
02:14:59,878 --> 02:15:02,470
have an opportunity to possibly

3670
02:15:02,470 --> 02:15:05,470
save the middle school. It'll

3671
02:15:05,651 --> 02:15:08,453
be a pilot program. And that's

3672
02:15:08,453 --> 02:15:09,587
the to give us the the okay to

3673
02:15:09,587 --> 02:15:12,456
go ahead and continue to

3674
02:15:12,456 --> 02:15:14,559
negotiate consensus of Council.

3675
02:15:14,559 --> 02:15:16,428
Yeah, we there's going to be a

3676
02:15:16,428 --> 02:15:18,828
law of unintended consequences

3677
02:15:18,896 --> 02:15:20,310
conversation about

3678
02:15:20,310 --> 02:15:22,310
unintentionally depriving

3679
02:15:22,200 --> 02:15:23,268
masked middle of its energy. Of

3680
02:15:23,268 --> 02:15:25,504
course, we'll be careful about

3681
02:15:25,504 --> 02:15:29,400
that for sure. Okay. You want

3682
02:15:29,400 --> 02:15:30,842
to succinctly say what it is

3683
02:15:30,842 --> 02:15:34,790
that my colleagues are going to

3684
02:15:34,790 --> 02:15:35,881
agree to? Okay. To the best.

3685
02:15:35,881 --> 02:15:39,150
Maybe our vice mayor would be

3686
02:15:39,150 --> 02:15:41,252
better at wording this, but

3687
02:15:41,252 --> 02:15:42,720
it's just it. In plain terms,

3688
02:15:42,720 --> 02:15:44,622
it's the okay to look at the

3689
02:15:44,622 --> 02:15:48,126
ila for the first time in over

3690
02:15:48,126 --> 02:15:49,194
12 years. Tell me what works is

3691
02:15:49,194 --> 02:15:50,610
interlocal agreement.

3692
02:15:50,610 --> 02:15:51,362
Interlocal agreement. It says

3693
02:15:51,362 --> 02:15:52,931
there on the presentation. That

3694
02:15:52,931 --> 02:15:53,931
makes sense. It basically was

3695
02:15:53,931 --> 02:15:55,700
an agreement whereby through

3696
02:15:55,700 --> 02:15:57,802
our investment in mast, we

3697
02:15:57,802 --> 02:15:59,671
received 1100 guaranteed

3698
02:15:59,671 --> 02:16:01,720
continue to support discussions.

3699
02:16:01,720 --> 02:16:02,507
Right. That makes sense. Then

3700
02:16:02,507 --> 02:16:04,643
the second the second ask is

3701
02:16:04,643 --> 02:16:06,811
just your your continued

3702
02:16:06,811 --> 02:16:09,470
support. Get involved, you know,

3703
02:16:09,470 --> 02:16:10,815
get on, get wait, wait, go talk

3704
02:16:10,815 --> 02:16:14,415
to the ptsa. I'm sorry, Vice

3705
02:16:15,854 --> 02:16:19,423
Mayor. Go ahead. Last year, the

3706
02:16:19,423 --> 02:16:21,126
council supported 50,000 and we

3707
02:16:21,126 --> 02:16:24,863
used it very well, as you could

3708
02:16:24,863 --> 02:16:25,897
see in the list this year. We

3709
02:16:25,897 --> 02:16:27,866
need that support again. We're

3710
02:16:27,866 --> 02:16:29,133
actually going up to 140,000

3711
02:16:29,133 --> 02:16:31,369
because we're actually raising

3712
02:16:31,369 --> 02:16:33,380
600 and so on. But then and you

3713
02:16:33,380 --> 02:16:35,940
sort of have an idea what

3714
02:16:35,940 --> 02:16:37,175
that's for. I, I would say you

3715
02:16:37,175 --> 02:16:39,770
got to look at this carefully.

3716
02:16:39,770 --> 02:16:40,912
I mean, if you if you want to

3717
02:16:40,912 --> 02:16:42,470
prove that, but I don't think

3718
02:16:42,470 --> 02:16:43,810
it's, you know, during budget

3719
02:16:43,810 --> 02:16:44,916
season and every that that

3720
02:16:44,916 --> 02:16:46,384
would be difficult. But I think

3721
02:16:46,384 --> 02:16:47,919
the answer is about 140 000. So.

3722
02:16:47,919 --> 02:16:49,287
All right. Well we'll we'll

3723
02:16:49,287 --> 02:16:52,190
have to dissect that. I think

3724
02:16:52,190 --> 02:16:54,392
so, I think so yes. Discussions.

3725
02:16:54,392 --> 02:16:56,294
Yes. Money perhaps take a look

3726
02:16:56,294 --> 02:16:57,528
at it. We'll we'll take a look

3727
02:16:57,528 --> 02:16:59,297
at it and see where all our

3728
02:16:59,297 --> 02:17:00,432
priorities are. So minimum to

3729
02:17:00,432 --> 02:17:02,366
repeat the 50,000 that we did

3730
02:17:02,366 --> 02:17:03,501
last year and then see if we

3731
02:17:03,501 --> 02:17:06,204
could increase it. Okay. Thank

3732
02:17:06,204 --> 02:17:09,441
you, thank you thank you. Good

3733
02:17:09,441 --> 02:17:11,243
job. Congratulations. Thank you.

3734
02:17:11,243 --> 02:17:14,243
Thank you Council to support

3735
02:17:16,314 --> 02:17:19,314
discussions. Yes. Yes. The next

3736
02:17:27,910 --> 02:17:28,693
item is the Zork update. Good

3737
02:17:28,693 --> 02:17:31,930
evening Jeremy building zoning

3738
02:17:31,429 --> 02:17:32,864
and planning director. I will

3739
02:17:32,864 --> 02:17:34,666
keep this relatively brief

3740
02:17:34,666 --> 02:17:36,568
because we will come back with

3741
02:17:36,568 --> 02:17:38,970
a more lengthy presentation to

3742
02:17:38,970 --> 02:17:41,506
go through all of the extensive

3743
02:17:41,506 --> 02:17:43,675
changes. But suffice to say

3744
02:17:43,675 --> 02:17:45,109
that the committee did great

3745
02:17:45,109 --> 02:17:45,811
work in attempting to resolve

3746
02:17:45,811 --> 02:17:47,579
something that's quite

3747
02:17:47,579 --> 02:17:50,148
difficult, which is how do we

3748
02:17:50,148 --> 02:17:51,583
get more resilient and

3749
02:17:51,583 --> 02:17:53,170
particular go up with the

3750
02:17:53,170 --> 02:17:54,452
finished floor levels of our

3751
02:17:54,452 --> 02:17:56,555
homes to protect them from

3752
02:17:56,555 --> 02:17:58,560
flooding, while at the same

3753
02:17:58,560 --> 02:17:59,557
time preserving community

3754
02:17:59,557 --> 02:18:01,425
character and attempting to

3755
02:18:01,425 --> 02:18:04,195
make houses seem less massive

3756
02:18:04,195 --> 02:18:05,997
and to sort of mitigate the

3757
02:18:05,997 --> 02:18:07,399
potential negative effects of

3758
02:18:07,399 --> 02:18:09,799
having that elevated ground

3759
02:18:09,968 --> 02:18:13,171
level. There was a lot of rigor,

3760
02:18:13,171 --> 02:18:15,339
20 plus meetings. There was

3761
02:18:15,339 --> 02:18:17,508
community tours, a lot of great

3762
02:18:17,508 --> 02:18:18,910
experience on there. So we will

3763
02:18:18,910 --> 02:18:21,112
be coming back with a very

3764
02:18:21,112 --> 02:18:23,512
detailed presentation on the

3765
02:18:29,200 --> 02:18:31,189
content and specifics. The next

3766
02:18:31,189 --> 02:18:32,991
item, let's do the

3767
02:18:32,991 --> 02:18:34,991
Sustainability Advisory Board

3768
02:18:37,295 --> 02:18:39,295
presentation. Regarding the

3769
02:18:40,232 --> 02:18:41,966
residential waste contract rfp.

3770
02:18:41,966 --> 02:18:44,966
Thank you. Mayor. Vice mayor.

3771
02:18:45,904 --> 02:18:46,972
Yes, yes, I know I don't have a

3772
02:18:46,972 --> 02:18:49,274
presentation coming out of the

3773
02:18:49,274 --> 02:18:51,276
woodwork. Family affair. My son

3774
02:18:51,276 --> 02:18:52,810
had to go home. If not, he'd be

3775
02:18:52,810 --> 02:18:54,946
up here giving a little speech.

3776
02:18:54,946 --> 02:18:56,470
So real quick, Councilmember

3777
02:18:56,470 --> 02:18:57,615
Vasquez, thank you very much

3778
02:18:57,615 --> 02:18:58,716
again for for that honor, for

3779
02:18:58,716 --> 02:18:59,784
my father. I very much

3780
02:18:59,784 --> 02:19:01,619
appreciate that. And 30 years

3781
02:19:01,619 --> 02:19:02,621
in the community has been a

3782
02:19:02,621 --> 02:19:03,988
blessing. So we're very

3783
02:19:03,988 --> 02:19:05,657
grateful. This real quick is

3784
02:19:05,657 --> 02:19:06,857
just an overview of a letter

3785
02:19:06,857 --> 02:19:08,660
that was submitted to you. We

3786
02:19:08,660 --> 02:19:11,600
have been working diligently

3787
02:19:11,229 --> 02:19:12,964
with the sab and also with with

3788
02:19:12,964 --> 02:19:15,660
our Council liaison Council

3789
02:19:15,660 --> 02:19:16,501
member, member Bracken, and the

3790
02:19:16,501 --> 02:19:17,602
staff has been absolutely

3791
02:19:17,602 --> 02:19:19,700
fantastic in the assistance

3792
02:19:19,700 --> 02:19:21,239
with, you know, prepping this

3793
02:19:21,239 --> 02:19:22,474
request for proposal for the

3794
02:19:22,474 --> 02:19:24,542
waste contract that's about to

3795
02:19:24,542 --> 02:19:26,377
go out. We do have a couple of

3796
02:19:26,377 --> 02:19:27,478
main items that we want to

3797
02:19:27,478 --> 02:19:29,514
ensure get included and have

3798
02:19:29,514 --> 02:19:30,581
direction from council. And

3799
02:19:30,581 --> 02:19:32,350
they're very simple,

3800
02:19:32,350 --> 02:19:33,818
straightforward. Number one is

3801
02:19:33,818 --> 02:19:35,286
flexibility. Number two is

3802
02:19:35,286 --> 02:19:36,254
sustainability. Number three is

3803
02:19:36,254 --> 02:19:37,822
accountability. And number four

3804
02:19:37,822 --> 02:19:39,423
is education and outreach. So

3805
02:19:39,423 --> 02:19:41,392
just to give you a quick

3806
02:19:41,392 --> 02:19:43,194
overview, we already have

3807
02:19:43,194 --> 02:19:45,597
flexibility baked in to the

3808
02:19:45,597 --> 02:19:46,731
contract as is where we have a

3809
02:19:46,731 --> 02:19:48,233
no penalty carve out letting

3810
02:19:48,233 --> 02:19:49,634
the village switch recycling

3811
02:19:49,634 --> 02:19:51,202
vendors if a better option

3812
02:19:51,202 --> 02:19:53,171
comes along. What we're looking

3813
02:19:53,171 --> 02:19:54,338
to propose is that we have the

3814
02:19:54,338 --> 02:19:56,207
same flexibility extended to

3815
02:19:56,207 --> 02:19:57,742
yard waste and composting, as

3816
02:19:57,742 --> 02:19:59,711
new technologies and options

3817
02:19:59,711 --> 02:20:00,845
become available. Obviously,

3818
02:20:00,845 --> 02:20:02,280
diversion is a big part of

3819
02:20:02,280 --> 02:20:03,915
sustainable practices. So the

3820
02:20:03,915 --> 02:20:05,117
point that we can optimize that

3821
02:20:05,117 --> 02:20:07,319
in the future, we want to be

3822
02:20:07,319 --> 02:20:08,520
open to those opportunities.

3823
02:20:08,520 --> 02:20:09,621
Locking into one vendor method

3824
02:20:09,621 --> 02:20:11,422
for these streams for the life

3825
02:20:11,422 --> 02:20:12,690
of the contract means we can

3826
02:20:12,690 --> 02:20:14,920
adapt as better diversion

3827
02:20:14,920 --> 02:20:15,961
options emerge. This just

3828
02:20:15,961 --> 02:20:17,729
protects our optionality.

3829
02:20:17,729 --> 02:20:18,930
Number two, sustainability.

3830
02:20:18,930 --> 02:20:20,531
Obviously coming from the sab,

3831
02:20:20,531 --> 02:20:21,566
we want to ensure that in the

3832
02:20:21,566 --> 02:20:22,767
vendor criteria, we have a

3833
02:20:22,767 --> 02:20:24,603
matrix that takes these items

3834
02:20:24,603 --> 02:20:26,400
into consideration, not just

3835
02:20:26,400 --> 02:20:28,172
who's providing and to what,

3836
02:20:28,172 --> 02:20:29,741
but things like making sure

3837
02:20:29,741 --> 02:20:31,442
that they're the score bidders

3838
02:20:31,442 --> 02:20:33,442
on sustainability performance.

3839
02:20:33,945 --> 02:20:36,114
We want diversion rates, data

3840
02:20:36,114 --> 02:20:38,160
infrastructure named diversion

3841
02:20:38,160 --> 02:20:40,840
facilities and fleet fuel type

3842
02:20:40,840 --> 02:20:41,886
built into how we score for

3843
02:20:41,886 --> 02:20:42,921
this winning bid. If

3844
02:20:42,921 --> 02:20:44,550
sustainability is in the

3845
02:20:44,550 --> 02:20:45,824
scoring, it's not really a

3846
02:20:45,824 --> 02:20:47,258
selection criteria. It's a

3847
02:20:47,258 --> 02:20:48,460
footnote that puts us on equal

3848
02:20:48,460 --> 02:20:50,861
footing with price and service

3849
02:20:50,861 --> 02:20:52,330
in this decision. Number three

3850
02:20:52,330 --> 02:20:53,732
is data accountability. Again,

3851
02:20:53,732 --> 02:20:54,833
we've already had this

3852
02:20:54,833 --> 02:20:56,601
discussion at length with the

3853
02:20:56,601 --> 02:20:57,769
sab staff has been great to

3854
02:20:57,769 --> 02:20:59,537
include this. We just want to

3855
02:20:59,537 --> 02:21:00,905
bring this to your attention.

3856
02:21:00,905 --> 02:21:02,674
It is in our contract currently,

3857
02:21:02,674 --> 02:21:03,842
but we want to be more adamant

3858
02:21:03,842 --> 02:21:05,644
about the frequency about which

3859
02:21:05,644 --> 02:21:06,711
we get this data and who's also

3860
02:21:06,711 --> 02:21:08,680
analyzing it. Because if we get

3861
02:21:08,680 --> 02:21:10,614
it and it's not looked at, it

3862
02:21:10,614 --> 02:21:11,849
doesn't do us much good. So one

3863
02:21:11,849 --> 02:21:13,585
of the things we're looking for

3864
02:21:13,585 --> 02:21:14,953
is weekly kpi reports from the

3865
02:21:14,953 --> 02:21:16,540
hauler volumes, final

3866
02:21:16,540 --> 02:21:18,222
destinations for each waste

3867
02:21:18,222 --> 02:21:19,223
stream, delivery receipts,

3868
02:21:19,223 --> 02:21:21,623
noncompliance tickets, which is

3869
02:21:21,825 --> 02:21:23,600
a new one and routes tied to

3870
02:21:23,600 --> 02:21:24,896
destinations we can't manage.

3871
02:21:24,896 --> 02:21:26,970
What we can't see right now. We

3872
02:21:26,970 --> 02:21:27,198
have limited visibility into

3873
02:21:27,198 --> 02:21:29,200
where our waste actually ends

3874
02:21:29,200 --> 02:21:30,268
up, and we want to make sure we

3875
02:21:30,268 --> 02:21:31,235
have that information to make

3876
02:21:31,235 --> 02:21:32,971
informed decisions moving

3877
02:21:32,971 --> 02:21:34,806
forward. We also want to hold

3878
02:21:34,806 --> 02:21:36,207
ourselves accountable. A

3879
02:21:36,207 --> 02:21:37,275
designated person, staff,

3880
02:21:37,275 --> 02:21:38,476
volunteer or consultant,

3881
02:21:38,476 --> 02:21:40,177
actually analyzing that data

3882
02:21:40,177 --> 02:21:40,879
and turning it into

3883
02:21:40,879 --> 02:21:42,314
recommendations, not just

3884
02:21:42,314 --> 02:21:44,182
filing the reports and having

3885
02:21:44,182 --> 02:21:45,684
those numbers. And finally,

3886
02:21:45,684 --> 02:21:47,718
education and outreach. We've

3887
02:21:47,718 --> 02:21:49,253
put a big onus on the waste

3888
02:21:49,253 --> 02:21:51,356
haulers within this rfp to

3889
02:21:51,356 --> 02:21:53,124
provide educational components.

3890
02:21:53,124 --> 02:21:54,592
As the sab, we've also stepped

3891
02:21:54,592 --> 02:21:56,270
forward and offered to any

3892
02:21:56,270 --> 02:21:57,461
extent that we can, if it's

3893
02:21:57,461 --> 02:21:58,930
creating literature, if it's

3894
02:21:58,930 --> 02:22:00,198
hosting workshops, if it's

3895
02:22:00,198 --> 02:22:01,766
getting the information out to

3896
02:22:01,766 --> 02:22:02,967
the community, we're ready,

3897
02:22:02,967 --> 02:22:05,300
willing and able to help. We've

3898
02:22:05,300 --> 02:22:06,437
had these discussions at length.

3899
02:22:06,437 --> 02:22:07,905
We already have a robust

3900
02:22:07,905 --> 02:22:09,674
program in place ready to

3901
02:22:09,674 --> 02:22:11,510
launch once that provider is

3902
02:22:11,510 --> 02:22:12,577
chosen. And these are the

3903
02:22:12,577 --> 02:22:13,678
recommendations we're moving

3904
02:22:13,678 --> 02:22:15,460
forward. Again, we're asking

3905
02:22:15,460 --> 02:22:16,914
council to direct staff to

3906
02:22:16,914 --> 02:22:18,983
build these into the rfp now,

3907
02:22:18,983 --> 02:22:20,485
not before it's released, not

3908
02:22:20,485 --> 02:22:22,687
to negotiate them after the

3909
02:22:22,687 --> 02:22:23,721
fact. Happy to walk through any

3910
02:22:23,721 --> 02:22:25,156
questions you have on the

3911
02:22:25,156 --> 02:22:26,591
letters. This is just an

3912
02:22:26,591 --> 02:22:28,759
overview. And again, I would

3913
02:22:28,759 --> 02:22:30,228
like to point out just a big

3914
02:22:30,228 --> 02:22:32,630
thanks to Doctor Michael, who

3915
02:22:32,630 --> 02:22:33,464
is one of our board members who

3916
02:22:33,464 --> 02:22:35,100
introduced us to Melissa Doyle,

3917
02:22:35,100 --> 02:22:36,734
who works for the city of Fort

3918
02:22:36,734 --> 02:22:37,802
Lauderdale. And she has been

3919
02:22:37,802 --> 02:22:39,236
instrumental in helping to

3920
02:22:39,236 --> 02:22:41,500
piece this together. She has

3921
02:22:41,500 --> 02:22:42,540
worked tirelessly with with

3922
02:22:42,540 --> 02:22:43,608
Benjamin and with Chris. And

3923
02:22:43,608 --> 02:22:45,276
these two gentlemen have been

3924
02:22:45,276 --> 02:22:46,444
absolutely fantastic. So I want

3925
02:22:46,444 --> 02:22:48,279
to thank them also for their

3926
02:22:48,279 --> 02:22:49,347
input and their time and their

3927
02:22:49,347 --> 02:22:50,548
dedication, and I'll leave it

3928
02:22:50,548 --> 02:22:52,316
at that. All right. Council

3929
02:22:52,316 --> 02:22:53,584
member Robert, liaison, before

3930
02:22:53,584 --> 02:22:55,753
you leave. Yes, sir. Discuss

3931
02:22:55,753 --> 02:22:58,256
the the opportunity of the

3932
02:22:58,256 --> 02:22:59,758
additional brown bin. Yes,

3933
02:22:59,758 --> 02:23:01,359
please. Excuse me, I overlooked

3934
02:23:01,359 --> 02:23:02,360
that. So one of the things that

3935
02:23:02,360 --> 02:23:04,610
we're recommending in the

3936
02:23:04,610 --> 02:23:05,296
flexibility and also the

3937
02:23:05,296 --> 02:23:07,980
increase is to put a third bin.

3938
02:23:07,980 --> 02:23:08,199
Because right now we have one

3939
02:23:08,199 --> 02:23:10,340
for municipal solid waste. We

3940
02:23:10,340 --> 02:23:11,202
have one for recycling. One of

3941
02:23:11,202 --> 02:23:13,404
the things that we're proposing

3942
02:23:13,404 --> 02:23:14,872
is a third brown bin currently,

3943
02:23:14,872 --> 02:23:17,410
waste landscape and yard waste,

3944
02:23:17,410 --> 02:23:19,511
when it reaches a tipping point,

3945
02:23:19,511 --> 02:23:20,712
is simply put into the waste

3946
02:23:20,712 --> 02:23:22,581
into the waste bin. What we

3947
02:23:22,581 --> 02:23:23,648
want to do is we want to

3948
02:23:23,648 --> 02:23:24,882
provide a segmented bin in

3949
02:23:24,882 --> 02:23:26,651
order to provide that service

3950
02:23:26,651 --> 02:23:27,719
as an add on to what is

3951
02:23:27,719 --> 02:23:29,520
currently happening. All right.

3952
02:23:29,520 --> 02:23:30,588
And one of the things that

3953
02:23:30,588 --> 02:23:31,789
we're looking, again, when you

3954
02:23:31,789 --> 02:23:32,723
look at the sustainability

3955
02:23:32,723 --> 02:23:33,758
matrix, is, okay, this isn't

3956
02:23:33,758 --> 02:23:35,526
only being taken to the

3957
02:23:35,526 --> 02:23:36,594
landfill, but if there are

3958
02:23:36,594 --> 02:23:37,695
vendors out there that can

3959
02:23:37,695 --> 02:23:38,696
provide an alternative solution

3960
02:23:38,696 --> 02:23:39,697
to this landscape and yard

3961
02:23:39,697 --> 02:23:40,865
waste going to a more

3962
02:23:40,865 --> 02:23:42,567
sustainable practice facility,

3963
02:23:42,567 --> 02:23:44,702
that would be ideal. So just,

3964
02:23:44,702 --> 02:23:45,770
just simply the if you think

3965
02:23:45,770 --> 02:23:46,904
about what happens in the

3966
02:23:46,904 --> 02:23:48,306
single family home community,

3967
02:23:48,306 --> 02:23:50,141
we get these bulk pickups,

3968
02:23:50,141 --> 02:23:51,943
right? So every landscaping

3969
02:23:51,943 --> 02:23:53,744
contractor and their mother

3970
02:23:53,744 --> 02:23:55,145
throws all that landscaping

3971
02:23:55,145 --> 02:23:56,714
material on those bulk pickups,

3972
02:23:56,714 --> 02:23:58,490
right? So that's where all that

3973
02:23:58,490 --> 02:23:59,250
debris ends up getting

3974
02:23:59,250 --> 02:24:00,418
landfilled. What the idea of

3975
02:24:00,418 --> 02:24:03,121
the second, the third bin is,

3976
02:24:03,121 --> 02:24:03,922
is to have a weekly pickup of

3977
02:24:03,922 --> 02:24:05,557
landscaping material so that

3978
02:24:05,557 --> 02:24:06,624
you don't, you get a much

3979
02:24:06,624 --> 02:24:07,592
higher diversion rate. That's

3980
02:24:07,592 --> 02:24:09,460
the thought process here.

3981
02:24:09,460 --> 02:24:10,461
That's a big part of the whole

3982
02:24:10,461 --> 02:24:11,729
sustainability movement is to

3983
02:24:11,729 --> 02:24:12,864
get no one wants to build

3984
02:24:12,864 --> 02:24:14,399
another landfill. Right. So

3985
02:24:14,399 --> 02:24:15,833
that's the whole idea. Extend

3986
02:24:15,833 --> 02:24:17,635
the life of the landfill and we

3987
02:24:17,635 --> 02:24:18,702
don't have to build another one.

3988
02:24:18,702 --> 02:24:19,803
That's the whole purpose of

3989
02:24:19,803 --> 02:24:21,640
recycling. These guys are doing

3990
02:24:21,640 --> 02:24:22,907
a great job. Thank you very

3991
02:24:22,907 --> 02:24:24,775
much. Thank you, thank you.

3992
02:24:24,775 --> 02:24:26,111
Okay. I just have a quick

3993
02:24:26,111 --> 02:24:27,678
question. I'm sorry the last

3994
02:24:27,678 --> 02:24:29,470
time and thank you for doing

3995
02:24:29,470 --> 02:24:30,882
that for for looking into

3996
02:24:30,882 --> 02:24:32,617
detail on this. The last time

3997
02:24:32,617 --> 02:24:33,818
we spoke with the manager on

3998
02:24:33,818 --> 02:24:35,620
this, I think they were going

3999
02:24:35,620 --> 02:24:36,988
out with an rfq. This was

4000
02:24:36,988 --> 02:24:39,457
moving forward. Have you been

4001
02:24:39,457 --> 02:24:40,592
able to incorporate these

4002
02:24:40,592 --> 02:24:42,326
comments? Where are we at with

4003
02:24:42,326 --> 02:24:43,794
the negotiations of that or

4004
02:24:43,794 --> 02:24:45,596
with staff? We're still

4005
02:24:45,596 --> 02:24:46,864
stacking the rfp, still in

4006
02:24:46,864 --> 02:24:48,660
writing. And in fact, we're

4007
02:24:48,660 --> 02:24:49,867
coming to you tonight to extend

4008
02:24:49,867 --> 02:24:51,436
the current contract so that we

4009
02:24:51,436 --> 02:24:52,870
make sure that we work. We have

4010
02:24:52,870 --> 02:24:54,105
been working very closely with

4011
02:24:54,105 --> 02:24:56,374
the sab just to get them one

4012
02:24:56,374 --> 02:24:58,943
more time to extend the

4013
02:24:58,943 --> 02:25:00,344
contract as it currently is.

4014
02:25:00,344 --> 02:25:02,146
Yeah, we need to extend and

4015
02:25:02,146 --> 02:25:03,581
allow for the six months to

4016
02:25:03,581 --> 02:25:05,160
incorporate and to study these,

4017
02:25:05,160 --> 02:25:06,751
these so that we can put out.

4018
02:25:06,751 --> 02:25:08,586
Got it. And then this will not

4019
02:25:08,586 --> 02:25:10,540
be a simple rfp in particularly.

4020
02:25:10,540 --> 02:25:12,223
We're going to do some

4021
02:25:12,223 --> 02:25:13,657
alternatives on it so that we

4022
02:25:13,657 --> 02:25:15,426
understand the cost of this

4023
02:25:15,426 --> 02:25:16,861
additional requirement, right.

4024
02:25:16,861 --> 02:25:19,300
So that we clearly understand

4025
02:25:19,300 --> 02:25:19,864
what we're stepping into so

4026
02:25:19,864 --> 02:25:21,990
that that's something we're

4027
02:25:21,990 --> 02:25:22,968
going to work together with you.

4028
02:25:22,968 --> 02:25:24,690
And I know you and Chris have

4029
02:25:24,690 --> 02:25:25,904
already been working, so yes,

4030
02:25:25,904 --> 02:25:27,772
sir, we're good to go. Just to

4031
02:25:27,772 --> 02:25:28,907
point out, you gave us two

4032
02:25:28,907 --> 02:25:29,974
months. We hit the two month

4033
02:25:29,974 --> 02:25:31,420
schedule. Okay. All right.

4034
02:25:31,420 --> 02:25:32,430
Thank you. Everybody. Have a

4035
02:25:32,430 --> 02:25:34,430
wonderful evening. We've

4036
02:25:34,512 --> 02:25:36,912
exceeded the quota tonight.

4037
02:25:41,252 --> 02:25:43,652
Yeah. Thank you everybody.

4038
02:25:45,256 --> 02:25:46,691
Alright? Consent agenda. Move.

4039
02:25:46,691 --> 02:25:47,725
Second. I want to pull. I'm

4040
02:25:47,725 --> 02:25:50,125
sorry. There's a community

4041
02:25:50,995 --> 02:25:52,130
center. No, no. Okay. Skip that.

4042
02:25:52,130 --> 02:25:55,130
I'm sorry. Who moved the

4043
02:25:55,733 --> 02:25:57,468
consent agenda? Second. Second.

4044
02:25:57,468 --> 02:25:59,637
We'll pull eight b. Thank you.

4045
02:25:59,637 --> 02:26:01,473
Eight d oh, wait. I'm sorry.

4046
02:26:01,473 --> 02:26:03,873
You're man Council member

4047
02:26:05,420 --> 02:26:09,242
London. You'd like to 8b8d and

4048
02:26:14,218 --> 02:26:15,853
eight e the e okay. Consensus

4049
02:26:15,853 --> 02:26:17,254
of council to remove the three

4050
02:26:17,254 --> 02:26:18,756
items from the consent agenda.

4051
02:26:18,756 --> 02:26:21,225
It has to be unanimous. We

4052
02:26:21,225 --> 02:26:24,225
don't need to consent. Okay,

4053
02:26:26,664 --> 02:26:28,400
well. Yes. Okay. Good man wants

4054
02:26:28,400 --> 02:26:30,535
to pull them. You can pull them.

4055
02:26:30,535 --> 02:26:31,836
It's just, you know, it usually

4056
02:26:31,836 --> 02:26:33,838
happens in the agenda portion.

4057
02:26:33,838 --> 02:26:37,800
That's all I'm. And you all

4058
02:26:37,800 --> 02:26:38,209
agree to it. So that's why I

4059
02:26:38,209 --> 02:26:40,411
asked that. No I don't it's

4060
02:26:40,411 --> 02:26:44,248
fine. So all those in favor of

4061
02:26:44,248 --> 02:26:47,848
the amended consent agenda I, I

4062
02:26:49,321 --> 02:26:51,721
opposed motion carries. Okay.

4063
02:26:52,557 --> 02:26:53,691
I'm going to read 8ba

4064
02:26:53,691 --> 02:26:55,250
resolution of the village

4065
02:26:55,250 --> 02:26:57,628
council of the village of Key

4066
02:26:57,628 --> 02:27:00,280
Biscayne, Florida. Yeah, yeah.

4067
02:27:00,832 --> 02:27:02,266
It's not deferred. It's pulled.

4068
02:27:02,266 --> 02:27:04,836
You pulled it right. I want to

4069
02:27:04,836 --> 02:27:06,303
discuss it. Yes. So it's gotta

4070
02:27:06,303 --> 02:27:08,806
read the title. Yes, I do make

4071
02:27:08,806 --> 02:27:10,141
it official. A resolution of

4072
02:27:10,141 --> 02:27:11,242
the village Council of the

4073
02:27:11,242 --> 02:27:12,343
village of Key Biscayne,

4074
02:27:12,343 --> 02:27:13,811
Florida, approving an

4075
02:27:13,811 --> 02:27:15,613
interlocal agreement with

4076
02:27:15,613 --> 02:27:18,130
Miami-Dade County to enforce

4077
02:27:18,783 --> 02:27:20,818
section 2-9, 8.3 of the Miami

4078
02:27:20,818 --> 02:27:22,420
Dade County Code of Ordinances

4079
02:27:22,420 --> 02:27:24,221
and additional regulations

4080
02:27:24,221 --> 02:27:26,358
relating to the operation of

4081
02:27:26,358 --> 02:27:28,159
micromobility devices, electric

4082
02:27:28,159 --> 02:27:29,627
bicycles and motorized scooters

4083
02:27:29,627 --> 02:27:31,529
within the village, providing

4084
02:27:31,529 --> 02:27:33,929
for authorization and providing

4085
02:27:35,320 --> 02:27:36,901
for an effective date. So,

4086
02:27:36,901 --> 02:27:39,671
mayor, before chief tells you I

4087
02:27:39,671 --> 02:27:42,671
need someone to second who

4088
02:27:44,410 --> 02:27:45,209
moved it second. And thank you,

4089
02:27:45,209 --> 02:27:47,144
mayor, before we have the chief

4090
02:27:47,144 --> 02:27:48,212
kick off, I just want to make

4091
02:27:48,212 --> 02:27:50,140
sure it's clear with the

4092
02:27:50,140 --> 02:27:51,480
council that this is just an

4093
02:27:51,480 --> 02:27:52,650
extension of an existing

4094
02:27:52,650 --> 02:27:54,418
interlocal agreement. So, chief,

4095
02:27:54,418 --> 02:27:56,200
if you take it from here. Yeah.

4096
02:27:56,200 --> 02:27:58,389
As. Good evening, mayor, vice

4097
02:27:58,389 --> 02:28:00,789
mayor, Council, what's your

4098
02:28:00,925 --> 02:28:02,260
issue is this. Chief, if

4099
02:28:02,260 --> 02:28:03,460
somebody's coming off the

4100
02:28:03,460 --> 02:28:04,629
island and they want to go to

4101
02:28:04,629 --> 02:28:07,131
Cape Florida State Park, and

4102
02:28:07,131 --> 02:28:08,132
they're going on a motorized

4103
02:28:08,132 --> 02:28:09,366
micromobility device, or you

4104
02:28:09,366 --> 02:28:11,268
want to call it, are you going

4105
02:28:11,268 --> 02:28:13,170
to give them a ticket on the

4106
02:28:13,170 --> 02:28:14,238
way to the park? As long as

4107
02:28:14,238 --> 02:28:16,274
they're not operating it in a

4108
02:28:16,274 --> 02:28:17,509
class 2 or 3 fashion and what

4109
02:28:17,509 --> 02:28:18,543
they're allowed to operate

4110
02:28:18,543 --> 02:28:19,977
micromobility devices on

4111
02:28:19,977 --> 02:28:22,613
Crandon Boulevard in the bike

4112
02:28:22,613 --> 02:28:24,282
lane in a class one fashion. No

4113
02:28:24,282 --> 02:28:26,484
problem. Correct. Okay. So in

4114
02:28:26,484 --> 02:28:27,552
other words, there's a way to

4115
02:28:27,552 --> 02:28:29,200
get through. No, that's my

4116
02:28:29,200 --> 02:28:31,555
first question. And number two,

4117
02:28:31,555 --> 02:28:32,623
is that okay? Joe bought

4118
02:28:32,623 --> 02:28:34,191
himself a new electric bike

4119
02:28:34,191 --> 02:28:35,894
last week. He didn't tell you

4120
02:28:35,894 --> 02:28:37,295
about it. So anyway, he now has

4121
02:28:37,295 --> 02:28:39,497
walked up to Crandon Boulevard

4122
02:28:39,497 --> 02:28:41,265
and he wants to go to Miami. We

4123
02:28:41,265 --> 02:28:42,666
get a ticket leaving Key

4124
02:28:42,666 --> 02:28:45,937
Biscayne. If he stays in the

4125
02:28:45,937 --> 02:28:49,507
bike lane. No. Class one bike?

4126
02:28:49,507 --> 02:28:52,760
No. No objection. Move on. All

4127
02:28:52,760 --> 02:28:55,676
those in favor of eight, be.

4128
02:28:56,347 --> 02:28:58,747
Aye. Opposed. Motion carries.

4129
02:28:59,650 --> 02:29:01,418
The next item is a resolution

4130
02:29:01,418 --> 02:29:02,821
8da resolution of the Village

4131
02:29:02,821 --> 02:29:04,689
Council of the Village of Key

4132
02:29:04,689 --> 02:29:06,689
Biscayne, Florida, selecting

4133
02:29:06,891 --> 02:29:08,259
Maverick United Elevator, llc

4134
02:29:08,259 --> 02:29:10,270
for elevator maintenance and

4135
02:29:10,270 --> 02:29:13,270
repair services in an amount

4136
02:29:13,464 --> 02:29:15,500
not to exceed $41,400 annually

4137
02:29:15,500 --> 02:29:19,700
over a three year term pursuant

4138
02:29:19,700 --> 02:29:21,272
to invitation to bid itb number

4139
02:29:21,272 --> 02:29:22,272
2026 dash ten, providing for

4140
02:29:22,272 --> 02:29:24,672
authorization and providing for

4141
02:29:27,110 --> 02:29:28,746
an effective date. Move it.

4142
02:29:28,746 --> 02:29:31,746
Second. Where's the second? I'm

4143
02:29:33,951 --> 02:29:36,754
sorry, are you? Thank you. It's

4144
02:29:36,754 --> 02:29:39,754
a discussion issue. Issue. I

4145
02:29:39,957 --> 02:29:41,725
have a question. Sure. Well,

4146
02:29:41,725 --> 02:29:43,600
you pulled it. I did, but I

4147
02:29:43,600 --> 02:29:44,262
want to speak first. Well, if

4148
02:29:44,262 --> 02:29:45,730
you. I thought we were

4149
02:29:45,730 --> 02:29:47,532
deferring these. I don't know.

4150
02:29:47,532 --> 02:29:48,933
Okay. Just questions about my

4151
02:29:48,933 --> 02:29:50,367
okay. My questions as follows.

4152
02:29:50,367 --> 02:29:52,936
Pulling from the consent. We

4153
02:29:52,936 --> 02:29:53,972
started with the I guess the

4154
02:29:53,972 --> 02:29:55,373
community center with the

4155
02:29:55,373 --> 02:29:57,208
elevator and they came before

4156
02:29:57,208 --> 02:29:59,143
us. You weren't here at the

4157
02:29:59,143 --> 02:30:00,278
time, but we came before us and

4158
02:30:00,278 --> 02:30:02,279
they said, hey, listen, we got

4159
02:30:02,279 --> 02:30:03,348
to get rid of, I think it was

4160
02:30:03,348 --> 02:30:05,250
Schindler. We had, as a

4161
02:30:05,250 --> 02:30:06,450
contractor put it in, we're not

4162
02:30:06,450 --> 02:30:08,152
doing the job, blah, blah, blah.

4163
02:30:08,152 --> 02:30:09,354
We got new contractor and

4164
02:30:09,354 --> 02:30:10,888
they'll take care of everything,

4165
02:30:10,888 --> 02:30:12,724
the warranty with a guarantee.

4166
02:30:12,724 --> 02:30:14,492
Et cetera. Et cetera. Et cetera.

4167
02:30:14,492 --> 02:30:15,927
Next thing I remember, we had

4168
02:30:15,927 --> 02:30:17,610
another work order. Do you know

4169
02:30:17,610 --> 02:30:18,930
what? They weren't doing it. We

4170
02:30:18,930 --> 02:30:20,898
had to get somebody else to do

4171
02:30:20,898 --> 02:30:21,933
it. I think did it on an

4172
02:30:21,933 --> 02:30:23,100
emergency basis, didn't you,

4173
02:30:23,100 --> 02:30:24,835
Steve? On the elevator in the

4174
02:30:24,835 --> 02:30:25,903
in the community center. Right.

4175
02:30:25,903 --> 02:30:27,104
Yeah. Because that was an

4176
02:30:27,104 --> 02:30:28,572
immediate emergency. Yes. So my

4177
02:30:28,572 --> 02:30:30,374
question now is now we're

4178
02:30:30,374 --> 02:30:32,774
getting another contractor to

4179
02:30:32,877 --> 02:30:34,312
do this. And what are they

4180
02:30:34,312 --> 02:30:36,130
warranting and what will they

4181
02:30:36,130 --> 02:30:38,249
do and what will they charge us?

4182
02:30:38,249 --> 02:30:39,951
Is it a flat monthly fee or is

4183
02:30:39,951 --> 02:30:41,519
it just for time when they come

4184
02:30:41,519 --> 02:30:43,287
to work, they're charging a

4185
02:30:43,287 --> 02:30:45,890
flat monthly fee for the

4186
02:30:45,890 --> 02:30:46,924
maintenance, operation and

4187
02:30:46,924 --> 02:30:48,359
inspection of those elevators.

4188
02:30:48,359 --> 02:30:50,328
So basically there's no parts

4189
02:30:50,328 --> 02:30:51,628
and labor involved in repairs.

4190
02:30:51,628 --> 02:30:53,163
There's no parts and labor

4191
02:30:53,163 --> 02:30:54,398
involved. There is a markup on

4192
02:30:54,398 --> 02:30:56,600
the parts that they have to buy.

4193
02:30:56,600 --> 02:30:58,802
It's a 9% markup. Okay. And my

4194
02:30:58,802 --> 02:31:00,972
question then is, can you get a

4195
02:31:00,972 --> 02:31:03,107
service contract for parts and

4196
02:31:03,107 --> 02:31:04,942
labor to be included? That's

4197
02:31:04,942 --> 02:31:06,744
not how the industry works,

4198
02:31:06,744 --> 02:31:08,479
really. Okay, so the ones I've

4199
02:31:08,479 --> 02:31:09,580
gotten, they don't work that

4200
02:31:09,580 --> 02:31:10,615
way. Okay. They haven't tell

4201
02:31:10,615 --> 02:31:11,749
them they haven't contracts

4202
02:31:11,749 --> 02:31:13,451
I've got are all wrong. You're

4203
02:31:13,451 --> 02:31:14,685
screwing me up. You shouldn't

4204
02:31:14,685 --> 02:31:16,554
do that for me. That's. They

4205
02:31:16,554 --> 02:31:17,688
have not been with us that way.

4206
02:31:17,688 --> 02:31:19,457
No. Okay. They all wanted a

4207
02:31:19,457 --> 02:31:20,758
percentage markup on the parts.

4208
02:31:20,758 --> 02:31:22,860
I'm not saying the 1%. Listen,

4209
02:31:22,860 --> 02:31:25,230
I'm talking about a contract

4210
02:31:25,230 --> 02:31:26,530
that says for so much a month,

4211
02:31:26,530 --> 02:31:28,633
they will take care of it.

4212
02:31:28,633 --> 02:31:30,468
Service calls. Either you want

4213
02:31:30,468 --> 02:31:31,936
it working hours, you want it

4214
02:31:31,936 --> 02:31:33,400
24 hours, a different charge.

4215
02:31:33,400 --> 02:31:34,405
And you're saying that doesn't

4216
02:31:34,405 --> 02:31:35,506
exist. That's their inspection

4217
02:31:35,506 --> 02:31:36,607
and maintenance of the

4218
02:31:36,607 --> 02:31:38,800
elevators, and they'll cover it

4219
02:31:38,800 --> 02:31:39,243
under that. But if there's

4220
02:31:39,243 --> 02:31:40,744
additional parts required, they

4221
02:31:40,744 --> 02:31:42,380
will charge you for the parts,

4222
02:31:42,380 --> 02:31:44,115
the labor with a markup on the

4223
02:31:44,115 --> 02:31:45,216
parts. Have you tried to get a

4224
02:31:45,216 --> 02:31:47,510
contract? Parts and labor. We

4225
02:31:47,510 --> 02:31:48,319
did. This contract went out and

4226
02:31:48,319 --> 02:31:50,121
we had nine bidders come back,

4227
02:31:50,121 --> 02:31:51,989
and all nine bidders bid it the

4228
02:31:51,989 --> 02:31:53,891
same way. Yes. Okay, fine. Good

4229
02:31:53,891 --> 02:31:55,292
enough done. Nancy. Okay. Two

4230
02:31:55,292 --> 02:31:56,360
things. One, I just want to

4231
02:31:56,360 --> 02:31:58,195
bring to everyone's attention

4232
02:31:58,195 --> 02:31:59,664
that a long time ago I asked

4233
02:31:59,664 --> 02:32:01,766
council to include in all of

4234
02:32:01,766 --> 02:32:03,934
our contracts that if any of

4235
02:32:03,934 --> 02:32:05,200
the tariffs were found to be

4236
02:32:05,200 --> 02:32:06,537
unlawful and they were going to

4237
02:32:06,537 --> 02:32:07,738
be reimbursed, that we would

4238
02:32:07,738 --> 02:32:09,540
have in our contract, that they

4239
02:32:09,540 --> 02:32:10,842
get reimbursed to us. Thank you

4240
02:32:10,842 --> 02:32:14,110
very much for doing it. I saw

4241
02:32:14,110 --> 02:32:15,846
that in there. That's fantastic.

4242
02:32:15,846 --> 02:32:19,446
My other my other question here

4243
02:32:20,952 --> 02:32:23,788
is. Or or issue is with the

4244
02:32:23,788 --> 02:32:24,922
with the extensions of the

4245
02:32:24,922 --> 02:32:26,990
contract. Shouldn't that even

4246
02:32:26,990 --> 02:32:28,793
even if shouldn't that come

4247
02:32:28,793 --> 02:32:30,261
before council? Shouldn't we at

4248
02:32:30,261 --> 02:32:31,796
least know whether or not we're

4249
02:32:31,796 --> 02:32:33,264
at the time where we're going

4250
02:32:33,264 --> 02:32:36,000
to extend it or not? Because i

4251
02:32:36,000 --> 02:32:37,402
think it's manager's discretion,

4252
02:32:37,402 --> 02:32:40,380
unless I didn't read that

4253
02:32:40,380 --> 02:32:41,338
properly. Attorney. So our and

4254
02:32:41,338 --> 02:32:43,540
we've had this discussion in

4255
02:32:43,540 --> 02:32:44,775
the past on this dais, our

4256
02:32:44,775 --> 02:32:46,377
standard agreement for a lot of

4257
02:32:46,377 --> 02:32:48,946
our professional services is a

4258
02:32:48,946 --> 02:32:50,715
three year agreement with two

4259
02:32:50,715 --> 02:32:51,849
year extensions that are

4260
02:32:51,849 --> 02:32:54,249
permitted by the manager.

4261
02:32:54,685 --> 02:32:56,153
That's how we typically do it.

4262
02:32:56,153 --> 02:32:59,570
It's up to the council if you

4263
02:32:59,570 --> 02:33:00,458
want to change that on any

4264
02:33:00,458 --> 02:33:01,559
contract. It comes to our

4265
02:33:01,559 --> 02:33:02,626
attention, oh, come to your

4266
02:33:02,626 --> 02:33:04,461
attention. Well, that's just,

4267
02:33:04,461 --> 02:33:06,965
you know, if you would like the

4268
02:33:06,965 --> 02:33:09,660
manager to notify the council

4269
02:33:09,660 --> 02:33:11,569
once he exercised an extension,

4270
02:33:11,569 --> 02:33:13,700
that's fine. I don't know how

4271
02:33:13,700 --> 02:33:15,205
Steve, before it's exercised,

4272
02:33:15,205 --> 02:33:17,800
just in case any of us know of

4273
02:33:17,800 --> 02:33:18,809
problems or have issues or

4274
02:33:18,809 --> 02:33:21,446
something. I don't think that's

4275
02:33:21,446 --> 02:33:23,414
unreasonable. No, I don't, you

4276
02:33:23,414 --> 02:33:24,615
know, think well, I'm not sure

4277
02:33:24,615 --> 02:33:28,519
if it's necessary to have it in

4278
02:33:28,519 --> 02:33:29,186
the agreement, but Steve,

4279
02:33:29,186 --> 02:33:32,186
practice. I don't know what

4280
02:33:34,291 --> 02:33:35,793
your typical practice is. Not

4281
02:33:35,793 --> 02:33:37,828
100%, I have noticed noticed

4282
02:33:37,828 --> 02:33:40,765
them on a number of them. Not

4283
02:33:40,765 --> 02:33:42,566
but not not 100% of them. I

4284
02:33:42,566 --> 02:33:44,100
just think it would be. So we

4285
02:33:44,100 --> 02:33:45,569
would like to know so that

4286
02:33:45,569 --> 02:33:47,271
anyone has an issue, they could

4287
02:33:47,271 --> 02:33:48,673
bring it up because I when

4288
02:33:48,673 --> 02:33:49,774
you're in the middle of a three

4289
02:33:49,774 --> 02:33:51,676
year contract, you don't know

4290
02:33:51,676 --> 02:33:53,430
that it's about to end and that

4291
02:33:53,430 --> 02:33:54,945
it's necessary to do anything

4292
02:33:54,945 --> 02:33:56,647
about it. Okay, well, we could

4293
02:33:56,647 --> 02:33:58,883
put it in the agreement if you

4294
02:33:58,883 --> 02:34:00,785
want, or we could just have it,

4295
02:34:00,785 --> 02:34:01,920
or you could have it as a

4296
02:34:01,920 --> 02:34:02,954
practice with the manager. I

4297
02:34:02,954 --> 02:34:04,722
think that's fine. I think

4298
02:34:04,722 --> 02:34:05,789
that's fine. All right, MR.

4299
02:34:05,789 --> 02:34:08,250
Manager. I'm sorry. Can you

4300
02:34:08,250 --> 02:34:09,226
repeat the direction that as a

4301
02:34:09,226 --> 02:34:11,280
motion. Do I need to. That's

4302
02:34:11,280 --> 02:34:12,163
okay. No, it could be a

4303
02:34:12,163 --> 02:34:14,565
consensus of council to direct

4304
02:34:14,565 --> 02:34:16,100
the manager of counsel. I think

4305
02:34:16,100 --> 02:34:19,100
the manager under the notify

4306
02:34:19,270 --> 02:34:21,438
counsel when prior to a an

4307
02:34:21,438 --> 02:34:22,573
extension of the two year

4308
02:34:22,573 --> 02:34:24,973
contract. Okay. Thank you,

4309
02:34:27,912 --> 02:34:31,915
thank you. Okay. On a d all

4310
02:34:31,915 --> 02:34:34,915
those in favor? Aye. Opposed.

4311
02:34:35,887 --> 02:34:38,887
Motion carries. Next item one

4312
02:34:39,123 --> 02:34:40,457
more, MR. E a resolution of the

4313
02:34:40,457 --> 02:34:42,326
Village Council of the Village

4314
02:34:42,326 --> 02:34:43,428
of Key Biscayne, Florida,

4315
02:34:43,428 --> 02:34:44,829
authorizing the village manager

4316
02:34:44,829 --> 02:34:46,263
to enter an agreement with the

4317
02:34:46,263 --> 02:34:48,263
Florida International

4318
02:34:48,465 --> 02:34:50,634
University Board of Trustees on

4319
02:34:50,634 --> 02:34:52,737
behalf of Florida International

4320
02:34:52,737 --> 02:34:54,572
University for a coastal

4321
02:34:54,572 --> 02:34:56,572
subsurface groundwater

4322
02:34:56,707 --> 02:34:58,175
monitoring program on village

4323
02:34:58,175 --> 02:34:59,770
property, providing for

4324
02:34:59,770 --> 02:35:01,770
implementation and providing

4325
02:35:02,145 --> 02:35:04,982
for an effective date. Move.

4326
02:35:04,982 --> 02:35:06,851
Second. Thank you. My only

4327
02:35:06,851 --> 02:35:09,190
question on this is how will

4328
02:35:09,190 --> 02:35:10,421
this affect us moving forward

4329
02:35:10,421 --> 02:35:11,889
with the storm sewer

4330
02:35:11,889 --> 02:35:12,990
installation, design and

4331
02:35:12,990 --> 02:35:15,860
installation? Is this going to

4332
02:35:15,860 --> 02:35:18,329
delay things? If so, how long

4333
02:35:18,329 --> 02:35:19,497
will it delay things? Doesn't

4334
02:35:19,497 --> 02:35:20,431
delay anything. I mean if

4335
02:35:20,431 --> 02:35:22,833
anything it's. In other words,

4336
02:35:22,833 --> 02:35:24,680
if we get g, I, t or somebody

4337
02:35:24,680 --> 02:35:27,380
else to move forward, another

4338
02:35:27,380 --> 02:35:28,405
engineer, we're getting free

4339
02:35:28,405 --> 02:35:30,410
agreement. I'm all for the free.

4340
02:35:30,410 --> 02:35:32,109
I'm the problem with that. Okay,

4341
02:35:32,109 --> 02:35:34,344
I like free. These two things

4342
02:35:34,344 --> 02:35:35,613
are totally separate. So that's

4343
02:35:35,613 --> 02:35:37,215
not going to stop anything. No.

4344
02:35:37,215 --> 02:35:38,349
What's that one doesn't affect

4345
02:35:38,349 --> 02:35:40,317
the other. Good. Okay. I have

4346
02:35:40,317 --> 02:35:43,317
no question. No problem. Okay.

4347
02:35:44,288 --> 02:35:46,560
Did you Steve, did you bring up

4348
02:35:46,560 --> 02:35:47,158
with Chad my question, my legal

4349
02:35:47,158 --> 02:35:48,325
question? Well, we'll look into

4350
02:35:48,325 --> 02:35:50,328
it. Okay. And it's something

4351
02:35:50,328 --> 02:35:51,528
and obviously we want to keep

4352
02:35:51,528 --> 02:35:53,331
it here. So. Yes. No, you

4353
02:35:53,331 --> 02:35:54,498
brought up a good question and

4354
02:35:54,498 --> 02:35:56,901
we will definitely look into it.

4355
02:35:56,901 --> 02:35:58,635
That was it. Thank you sir.

4356
02:35:58,635 --> 02:36:02,235
MADAM Clerk. All those in favor?

4357
02:36:03,374 --> 02:36:05,774
Aye. Opposed. Motion carries.

4358
02:36:06,243 --> 02:36:08,120
Okay. Nine a the next item is

4359
02:36:08,120 --> 02:36:09,446
the second reading of a capital

4360
02:36:09,446 --> 02:36:11,282
project authorizing ordinance

4361
02:36:11,282 --> 02:36:12,316
of the Village Council of the

4362
02:36:12,316 --> 02:36:14,485
Village of Key Biscayne,

4363
02:36:14,485 --> 02:36:16,200
Florida, selecting b and g

4364
02:36:16,200 --> 02:36:18,420
Construction Solutions Corp for

4365
02:36:18,822 --> 02:36:20,625
the Harbor Drive. Milling,

4366
02:36:20,625 --> 02:36:21,759
resurfacing and roadway

4367
02:36:21,759 --> 02:36:24,159
reconstruction project in an

4368
02:36:27,640 --> 02:36:28,932
amount not to exceed $2,384,688.

4369
02:36:28,932 --> 02:36:30,400
Providing for authorization,

4370
02:36:30,400 --> 02:36:32,203
providing for implementation

4371
02:36:32,203 --> 02:36:35,203
and providing for an effective

4372
02:36:36,473 --> 02:36:37,574
date. Move. Second. Thank you.

4373
02:36:37,574 --> 02:36:38,976
Calling. Been working on this

4374
02:36:38,976 --> 02:36:41,512
for what, three years? Four

4375
02:36:41,512 --> 02:36:43,280
years approximately, sir. It's

4376
02:36:43,280 --> 02:36:44,849
coming, it's coming. I would

4377
02:36:44,849 --> 02:36:46,784
like to just amend this. If we

4378
02:36:46,784 --> 02:36:48,719
call it amend or, or parse it

4379
02:36:48,719 --> 02:36:51,222
or take it apart and say that

4380
02:36:51,222 --> 02:36:53,824
the is brought up tonight by

4381
02:36:53,824 --> 02:36:55,393
Brett about the what do you

4382
02:36:55,393 --> 02:36:56,593
call it, the stamped asphalt

4383
02:36:56,593 --> 02:36:58,396
that let's talk about at this

4384
02:36:58,396 --> 02:36:59,864
point in time? I see that's

4385
02:36:59,864 --> 02:37:00,932
part of the contract, 200 000.

4386
02:37:00,932 --> 02:37:02,599
Go forward with everything else

4387
02:37:02,599 --> 02:37:04,535
and we take a final decision on

4388
02:37:04,535 --> 02:37:06,770
that. In other words, take that

4389
02:37:06,770 --> 02:37:08,238
out of the contract today until

4390
02:37:08,238 --> 02:37:10,274
we advise them that that's what

4391
02:37:10,274 --> 02:37:11,743
we want. I would caution

4392
02:37:11,743 --> 02:37:13,544
against that, if I MAY, because

4393
02:37:13,544 --> 02:37:15,179
once you enter into the

4394
02:37:15,179 --> 02:37:16,814
contract, that would constitute

4395
02:37:16,814 --> 02:37:18,682
a material change and the

4396
02:37:18,682 --> 02:37:20,384
contractor can do after that,

4397
02:37:20,384 --> 02:37:24,584
you have to pay a premium price

4398
02:37:25,156 --> 02:37:27,191
for any changes. Perhaps it's

4399
02:37:27,191 --> 02:37:30,191
really something to consider. I

4400
02:37:30,495 --> 02:37:32,229
don't I have done all of those.

4401
02:37:32,229 --> 02:37:34,310
Yeah. Can you just but but I

4402
02:37:34,310 --> 02:37:35,532
would call okay. So my my thing

4403
02:37:35,532 --> 02:37:38,532
quickly before you before you

4404
02:37:40,538 --> 02:37:42,390
go further, if we change this

4405
02:37:42,390 --> 02:37:45,576
in any other material way, it's

4406
02:37:45,576 --> 02:37:48,479
got to go back to the county.

4407
02:37:48,479 --> 02:37:51,449
No, because this portion of the

4408
02:37:51,449 --> 02:37:53,884
road is on our dime. Yes. Okay.

4409
02:37:53,884 --> 02:37:55,986
But it is in a single contract

4410
02:37:55,986 --> 02:37:58,156
and that is going to a single

4411
02:37:58,156 --> 02:37:59,690
contractor. So but couldn't we

4412
02:37:59,690 --> 02:38:01,159
have an amendment to the

4413
02:38:01,159 --> 02:38:03,227
contract to take that out with

4414
02:38:03,227 --> 02:38:04,929
an agreement that if we put it

4415
02:38:04,929 --> 02:38:06,163
back in, this is going to be

4416
02:38:06,163 --> 02:38:08,732
the price? What they've already

4417
02:38:08,732 --> 02:38:09,867
quoted us or to provide for

4418
02:38:09,867 --> 02:38:11,702
this, a certain amount of time,

4419
02:38:11,702 --> 02:38:12,903
we would do the contract and

4420
02:38:12,903 --> 02:38:14,772
have a change order if we don't

4421
02:38:14,772 --> 02:38:15,873
do this, because this is the

4422
02:38:15,873 --> 02:38:17,410
last thing that's going to

4423
02:38:17,410 --> 02:38:18,709
happen about the first thing.

4424
02:38:18,709 --> 02:38:19,844
Correct? What's the what's the

4425
02:38:19,844 --> 02:38:21,712
square footage? I mean, this is

4426
02:38:21,712 --> 02:38:22,780
the first thing that's going to

4427
02:38:22,780 --> 02:38:23,914
happen before the circle. The

4428
02:38:23,914 --> 02:38:25,160
circles are the first thing

4429
02:38:25,160 --> 02:38:26,817
they're going to start working

4430
02:38:26,817 --> 02:38:28,190
on. Yes, you're going to stamp

4431
02:38:28,190 --> 02:38:29,530
on the stamp concrete. They're

4432
02:38:29,530 --> 02:38:30,721
going to start removing the

4433
02:38:30,721 --> 02:38:31,789
brick pavers and the concrete

4434
02:38:31,789 --> 02:38:32,890
underneath the brick pavers and

4435
02:38:32,890 --> 02:38:34,825
preparing that area with base

4436
02:38:34,825 --> 02:38:38,129
and building it up to be able

4437
02:38:38,129 --> 02:38:39,330
to get to an elevation, a level

4438
02:38:39,330 --> 02:38:41,199
where they can do the asphalt

4439
02:38:41,199 --> 02:38:42,366
and then come back and do the

4440
02:38:42,366 --> 02:38:44,301
brick pavers. But they have to

4441
02:38:44,301 --> 02:38:45,402
work on that. And the concrete

4442
02:38:45,402 --> 02:38:47,538
ribbons that are there, we have

4443
02:38:47,538 --> 02:38:49,674
to make a decision quickly. Yes.

4444
02:38:49,674 --> 02:38:51,775
Okay. Right now I'm just and

4445
02:38:51,775 --> 02:38:53,411
it's 1.9 million as somebody

4446
02:38:53,411 --> 02:38:54,545
else's money. So listen, I got

4447
02:38:54,545 --> 02:38:56,313
no problem doing it. The

4448
02:38:56,313 --> 02:38:57,915
question is, if Brett is

4449
02:38:57,915 --> 02:38:59,483
telling you it all came up, why

4450
02:38:59,483 --> 02:39:00,451
do we want to do something

4451
02:39:00,451 --> 02:39:02,319
that's been unsuccessful

4452
02:39:02,319 --> 02:39:04,421
somewhere else? Right. But by

4453
02:39:04,421 --> 02:39:06,557
the same token, well, we had

4454
02:39:06,557 --> 02:39:08,957
that presentation. Was it

4455
02:39:09,126 --> 02:39:11,829
kimley-horn or. Yes, it said

4456
02:39:11,829 --> 02:39:13,664
that to do this in a pervious

4457
02:39:13,664 --> 02:39:15,990
way was going to cost a million.

4458
02:39:15,990 --> 02:39:16,990
I'm not saying about impervious.

4459
02:39:16,990 --> 02:39:17,401
We're talking I'm not saying

4460
02:39:17,401 --> 02:39:19,690
impervious. I'm saying I'm just

4461
02:39:19,690 --> 02:39:20,271
not here. I agree with you. I'm

4462
02:39:20,271 --> 02:39:21,973
not I'm not disagreeing. I'm

4463
02:39:21,973 --> 02:39:23,173
just saying that I think it

4464
02:39:23,173 --> 02:39:24,909
brought up that the bricks have

4465
02:39:24,909 --> 02:39:25,910
been there for 20 years.

4466
02:39:25,910 --> 02:39:26,977
They're not maintained. They're

4467
02:39:26,977 --> 02:39:28,913
not maintained. Now, do you

4468
02:39:28,913 --> 02:39:30,470
know how many times I talked to

4469
02:39:30,470 --> 02:39:31,182
you? Anybody drives down Harbor

4470
02:39:31,182 --> 02:39:32,916
Drive? It's just horrible. Okay,

4471
02:39:32,916 --> 02:39:33,984
well, we're also not going to

4472
02:39:33,984 --> 02:39:35,185
have busses. Sorry. We're not

4473
02:39:35,185 --> 02:39:36,954
going to have busses. No, but

4474
02:39:36,954 --> 02:39:38,155
we haven't had busses for a

4475
02:39:38,155 --> 02:39:39,189
while. It's still horrible. We

4476
02:39:39,189 --> 02:39:40,357
have concrete trucks, but we

4477
02:39:40,357 --> 02:39:41,992
have concrete trucks. Whatever

4478
02:39:41,992 --> 02:39:43,600
we have. The point being, it's

4479
02:39:43,600 --> 02:39:44,194
not being maintained. No, the

4480
02:39:44,194 --> 02:39:45,262
question is, can we maintain

4481
02:39:45,262 --> 02:39:46,998
bricks with our maintenance

4482
02:39:46,998 --> 02:39:48,699
department or do we have to

4483
02:39:48,699 --> 02:39:50,935
basically sub subcontract out

4484
02:39:50,935 --> 02:39:53,335
maintenance? What what's your

4485
02:39:54,505 --> 02:39:55,739
issue with doing this? I'm

4486
02:39:55,739 --> 02:39:57,341
really I'm not sure what you're

4487
02:39:57,341 --> 02:39:59,143
what you're proposing. I'm

4488
02:39:59,143 --> 02:40:01,712
supposing either not to do the

4489
02:40:01,712 --> 02:40:03,480
bricks and do them properly or

4490
02:40:03,480 --> 02:40:04,882
do something else. That's all I

4491
02:40:04,882 --> 02:40:07,840
think. Can we can we discuss

4492
02:40:07,840 --> 02:40:09,219
what we mean properly. So so if

4493
02:40:09,219 --> 02:40:10,320
these are sand set pavers we're

4494
02:40:10,320 --> 02:40:11,822
going to continue having

4495
02:40:11,822 --> 02:40:14,959
problems with them. So so the

4496
02:40:14,959 --> 02:40:17,127
the question is if we rebuild

4497
02:40:17,127 --> 02:40:19,527
the the structure underneath

4498
02:40:19,696 --> 02:40:22,533
the street using concrete or

4499
02:40:22,533 --> 02:40:24,535
some appropriate surface relay

4500
02:40:24,535 --> 02:40:25,770
the pavers back down. Wouldn't

4501
02:40:25,770 --> 02:40:27,371
it make more sense that we

4502
02:40:27,371 --> 02:40:29,440
cement those in place versus

4503
02:40:29,440 --> 02:40:30,774
that they are currently cement

4504
02:40:30,774 --> 02:40:31,975
based underneath them? There is

4505
02:40:31,975 --> 02:40:32,977
a cement base. I understand,

4506
02:40:32,977 --> 02:40:34,412
but they're not. But they're

4507
02:40:34,412 --> 02:40:35,880
set. They're sand set after

4508
02:40:35,880 --> 02:40:37,810
that fact. Correct. All right.

4509
02:40:37,810 --> 02:40:38,950
So every time we have a rain,

4510
02:40:38,950 --> 02:40:40,918
every time we have a water

4511
02:40:40,918 --> 02:40:43,540
event, we flush out things. We

4512
02:40:43,540 --> 02:40:44,540
undermine the the pavers. Not

4513
02:40:44,540 --> 02:40:45,880
necessarily. They have a

4514
02:40:45,880 --> 02:40:46,323
concrete ribbon around the

4515
02:40:46,323 --> 02:40:47,324
edges so that that sand doesn't

4516
02:40:47,324 --> 02:40:49,526
necessarily flush out. But it

4517
02:40:49,526 --> 02:40:51,329
is, it is we are losing sand in

4518
02:40:51,329 --> 02:40:53,564
them and they do settle. We

4519
02:40:53,564 --> 02:40:56,660
have gone back and reset a lot

4520
02:40:56,660 --> 02:40:57,668
of these pavers numerous times.

4521
02:40:57,668 --> 02:40:58,803
Just in the two years that I've

4522
02:40:58,803 --> 02:41:00,671
been here. Yeah. But that's

4523
02:41:00,671 --> 02:41:01,806
going to happen a lot that that

4524
02:41:01,806 --> 02:41:03,373
is part of that's part of

4525
02:41:03,373 --> 02:41:05,376
having brick pavers. And people

4526
02:41:05,376 --> 02:41:07,144
need to understand that. And we

4527
02:41:07,144 --> 02:41:08,278
have done it in Las Olas,

4528
02:41:08,278 --> 02:41:10,140
places like that, where you

4529
02:41:10,140 --> 02:41:11,982
have these brick pavers and

4530
02:41:11,982 --> 02:41:14,180
they move, they shift it. It's

4531
02:41:14,180 --> 02:41:15,519
a maintenance issue. If you

4532
02:41:15,519 --> 02:41:17,187
want brick pavers, you have to

4533
02:41:17,187 --> 02:41:18,222
deal with that. If you want

4534
02:41:18,222 --> 02:41:20,910
stamped asphalt, you have to

4535
02:41:20,910 --> 02:41:21,592
deal with with the tires, with

4536
02:41:21,592 --> 02:41:23,427
the dirt and having to replace

4537
02:41:23,427 --> 02:41:24,895
it. So either, you know, pick

4538
02:41:24,895 --> 02:41:26,530
pick your poison. I guess

4539
02:41:26,530 --> 02:41:28,432
that's what I'm trying to say.

4540
02:41:28,432 --> 02:41:30,201
But but let me just one quick,

4541
02:41:30,201 --> 02:41:33,437
quick, if I MAY, please. It

4542
02:41:33,437 --> 02:41:35,437
says pattern payment 246,693.

4543
02:41:36,600 --> 02:41:37,740
Is that pattern payment the

4544
02:41:37,740 --> 02:41:38,776
portion that you're talking

4545
02:41:38,776 --> 02:41:39,943
about being stamped. That is

4546
02:41:39,943 --> 02:41:42,343
correct. Okay. And you're

4547
02:41:42,446 --> 02:41:44,648
allowing a contingency for

4548
02:41:44,648 --> 02:41:46,683
$24,000 added to it. Is that is

4549
02:41:46,683 --> 02:41:47,851
that just let me ask you a

4550
02:41:47,851 --> 02:41:49,520
question. If you ask the

4551
02:41:49,520 --> 02:41:50,787
contractor, what price would he

4552
02:41:50,787 --> 02:41:52,890
give you right now? If you talk

4553
02:41:52,890 --> 02:41:54,758
to them and get a general idea,

4554
02:41:54,758 --> 02:41:56,160
because I think this subject is

4555
02:41:56,160 --> 02:41:57,928
I don't think we should really

4556
02:41:57,928 --> 02:41:59,290
cut corners just to move a

4557
02:41:59,290 --> 02:42:00,264
contract. I think we should

4558
02:42:00,264 --> 02:42:02,990
look at this. And I think this

4559
02:42:02,990 --> 02:42:03,334
is a subject that is not

4560
02:42:03,334 --> 02:42:05,502
something we want to just my

4561
02:42:05,502 --> 02:42:08,380
opinion. I hear the concern.

4562
02:42:08,380 --> 02:42:09,807
I've heard Brett speak about it.

4563
02:42:09,807 --> 02:42:11,275
I have a particular concern

4564
02:42:11,275 --> 02:42:12,309
with it. I think there's

4565
02:42:12,309 --> 02:42:14,144
options out there that we could

4566
02:42:14,144 --> 02:42:15,579
do. I'm asking the question,

4567
02:42:15,579 --> 02:42:17,380
can we ask the contractor to

4568
02:42:17,380 --> 02:42:19,183
see what price that would be

4569
02:42:19,183 --> 02:42:21,752
before we sign this contract? A

4570
02:42:21,752 --> 02:42:23,153
price to do what to do a brick

4571
02:42:23,153 --> 02:42:24,655
pavers to brick pavers. Yes.

4572
02:42:24,655 --> 02:42:25,890
Okay. Let's, let's, let's

4573
02:42:25,890 --> 02:42:27,570
forget about the maintenance

4574
02:42:27,570 --> 02:42:29,260
issue because it's going to

4575
02:42:29,260 --> 02:42:30,361
happen. The village has to make

4576
02:42:30,361 --> 02:42:31,862
a commitment. If they want

4577
02:42:31,862 --> 02:42:34,298
brick pavers, we're going to

4578
02:42:34,298 --> 02:42:36,166
have to take care of them. Yes,

4579
02:42:36,166 --> 02:42:37,768
we can look for options, but

4580
02:42:37,768 --> 02:42:39,300
what I'm saying is that we have

4581
02:42:39,300 --> 02:42:41,710
to it requires a specific type

4582
02:42:41,710 --> 02:42:42,573
of maintenance. Can you talk to

4583
02:42:42,573 --> 02:42:43,474
the contractor on this? I

4584
02:42:43,474 --> 02:42:45,375
certainly I can ask, can you

4585
02:42:45,375 --> 02:42:47,244
come back with a price and let

4586
02:42:47,244 --> 02:42:48,378
us know because right now we're

4587
02:42:48,378 --> 02:42:49,513
voting kind of blind. Would you

4588
02:42:49,513 --> 02:42:51,215
agree with that? Does this

4589
02:42:51,215 --> 02:42:52,482
contract result in brick pavers

4590
02:42:52,482 --> 02:42:54,218
at the end? Is that the final

4591
02:42:54,218 --> 02:42:56,587
finish. No stamped pavers.

4592
02:42:56,587 --> 02:42:58,789
It'll be it'll be patterned

4593
02:42:58,789 --> 02:43:00,558
asphalt. Correct. So you either

4594
02:43:00,558 --> 02:43:03,558
live very different than it

4595
02:43:03,827 --> 02:43:05,595
currently is. I do want to say

4596
02:43:05,595 --> 02:43:08,990
all of our prior conversations

4597
02:43:08,990 --> 02:43:10,301
about this have been about the

4598
02:43:10,301 --> 02:43:11,368
circles and drainage and

4599
02:43:11,368 --> 02:43:13,570
resiliency. We never talked

4600
02:43:13,570 --> 02:43:14,938
about esthetics that I recall.

4601
02:43:14,938 --> 02:43:16,774
It's always been pervious

4602
02:43:16,774 --> 02:43:18,576
versus right. So we're ending

4603
02:43:18,576 --> 02:43:20,677
up with something that is

4604
02:43:20,677 --> 02:43:22,179
completely impervious. So if we

4605
02:43:22,179 --> 02:43:25,179
can get something that looks

4606
02:43:27,218 --> 02:43:30,218
better, get set bricks, that's

4607
02:43:31,188 --> 02:43:33,323
no, no less, no more impervious

4608
02:43:33,323 --> 02:43:34,424
than, than the, the, the tar.

4609
02:43:34,424 --> 02:43:37,360
I'm not sure what difference it

4610
02:43:37,360 --> 02:43:39,163
makes other than the price and

4611
02:43:39,163 --> 02:43:41,650
the maintenance. So part of it

4612
02:43:41,650 --> 02:43:42,265
has to do with what we want the

4613
02:43:42,265 --> 02:43:44,167
village to look like. Let's do

4614
02:43:44,167 --> 02:43:46,270
it before we sign the contract,

4615
02:43:46,270 --> 02:43:48,605
not after. Because once we sign

4616
02:43:48,605 --> 02:43:51,605
the contract, then we pay

4617
02:43:53,243 --> 02:43:54,211
premium. MR. Mayor, we spent

4618
02:43:54,211 --> 02:43:55,879
three years on this and

4619
02:43:55,879 --> 02:43:56,947
obviously this is the council's

4620
02:43:56,947 --> 02:43:58,149
call. We've been talking for

4621
02:43:58,149 --> 02:44:00,384
the last year that this would

4622
02:44:00,384 --> 02:44:02,553
be stamped asphalt. We've had

4623
02:44:02,553 --> 02:44:05,553
one reading on this. It's

4624
02:44:06,123 --> 02:44:07,525
already been passed. This is

4625
02:44:07,525 --> 02:44:09,125
$1.9 million of county money,

4626
02:44:09,125 --> 02:44:10,327
but it is up to the council.

4627
02:44:10,327 --> 02:44:12,195
But I do want to let the

4628
02:44:12,195 --> 02:44:13,263
council know that the staff is

4629
02:44:13,263 --> 02:44:15,660
getting frustrated as we keep

4630
02:44:15,660 --> 02:44:16,200
changing these projects, but of

4631
02:44:16,200 --> 02:44:18,302
course, we'll do what the

4632
02:44:18,302 --> 02:44:21,902
council wishes us to do. Okay.

4633
02:44:22,272 --> 02:44:24,809
The is there a potential that

4634
02:44:24,809 --> 02:44:28,412
we would have to go back to the

4635
02:44:28,412 --> 02:44:30,614
county on any of this? That's

4636
02:44:30,614 --> 02:44:33,517
that's my it would be about. No,

4637
02:44:33,517 --> 02:44:35,953
no, but but Chad, can you is

4638
02:44:35,953 --> 02:44:37,755
there any reason that this

4639
02:44:37,755 --> 02:44:40,290
would have to go back? Because

4640
02:44:40,290 --> 02:44:41,725
if it does, I. I got a real

4641
02:44:41,725 --> 02:44:42,893
problem with this. I mean, I

4642
02:44:42,893 --> 02:44:45,730
don't I don't see that it's

4643
02:44:45,730 --> 02:44:46,963
just on the county years to get

4644
02:44:46,963 --> 02:44:49,299
this. We're just talking about

4645
02:44:49,299 --> 02:44:51,699
the stamp concrete component,

4646
02:44:52,169 --> 02:44:53,971
correct. To me, that's that's a

4647
02:44:53,971 --> 02:44:55,773
non-material change. I mean,

4648
02:44:55,773 --> 02:44:58,800
that's an esthetic change that

4649
02:44:58,800 --> 02:45:01,278
that they flat out said they

4650
02:45:01,278 --> 02:45:02,612
would not pay or have any part

4651
02:45:02,612 --> 02:45:04,810
of the stamp of the brick

4652
02:45:04,810 --> 02:45:06,684
pavers. So if we go brick

4653
02:45:06,684 --> 02:45:08,180
pavers, that is completely out.

4654
02:45:08,180 --> 02:45:09,186
Would it be a significant

4655
02:45:09,186 --> 02:45:11,210
change? I don't know, they said

4656
02:45:11,210 --> 02:45:12,890
they weren't going to pay for

4657
02:45:12,890 --> 02:45:13,490
the stamped asphalt either or

4658
02:45:13,490 --> 02:45:14,792
whatever. Anything. So anything

4659
02:45:14,792 --> 02:45:17,361
esthetic they're not paying for

4660
02:45:17,361 --> 02:45:19,761
right. They're only providing

4661
02:45:21,732 --> 02:45:23,467
the asphalt part per the only

4662
02:45:23,467 --> 02:45:24,902
providing the asphalt portion

4663
02:45:24,902 --> 02:45:26,370
in the new paving right. And

4664
02:45:26,370 --> 02:45:27,571
the concrete curbing. So it's

4665
02:45:27,571 --> 02:45:28,972
irrelevant. It's irrelevant to

4666
02:45:28,972 --> 02:45:30,340
the county. Correct. They

4667
02:45:30,340 --> 02:45:31,508
probably won't care. So the

4668
02:45:31,508 --> 02:45:33,210
timing of the project would

4669
02:45:33,210 --> 02:45:35,120
walk me through the most

4670
02:45:35,120 --> 02:45:37,548
expedited manner in which we

4671
02:45:37,548 --> 02:45:39,948
could potentially change the

4672
02:45:40,150 --> 02:45:41,819
stamped asphalt. For now, the

4673
02:45:41,819 --> 02:45:43,187
brick pavers, you approved this

4674
02:45:43,187 --> 02:45:44,421
contract, and we would issue a

4675
02:45:44,421 --> 02:45:46,156
change order to the contractor

4676
02:45:46,156 --> 02:45:47,291
later on, which is what MR.

4677
02:45:47,291 --> 02:45:48,325
London was saying. I'm saying

4678
02:45:48,325 --> 02:45:49,293
there's potential. I mean, I'm

4679
02:45:49,293 --> 02:45:50,428
discussing it. Yeah, I

4680
02:45:50,428 --> 02:45:52,362
understand the question. What

4681
02:45:52,362 --> 02:45:54,231
Mike is saying. Explore the

4682
02:45:54,231 --> 02:45:56,133
idea of not having a new set of

4683
02:45:56,133 --> 02:45:57,670
hard set. Yeah. But everybody

4684
02:45:57,670 --> 02:45:58,202
what everybody thinks of a

4685
02:45:58,202 --> 02:46:00,104
change order, that's an option

4686
02:46:00,104 --> 02:46:01,205
that Chris can put in the in

4687
02:46:01,205 --> 02:46:03,400
the change, the potential

4688
02:46:03,400 --> 02:46:04,541
change order is go sand set or

4689
02:46:04,541 --> 02:46:05,609
bricks or, or, or concrete set,

4690
02:46:05,609 --> 02:46:07,310
whatever that would, that would

4691
02:46:07,310 --> 02:46:09,800
be in the, in a change order

4692
02:46:09,800 --> 02:46:10,147
that we would issue to the

4693
02:46:10,147 --> 02:46:12,830
contractor. Yes. Option to do

4694
02:46:12,830 --> 02:46:13,316
one or the other or both. And

4695
02:46:13,316 --> 02:46:15,860
we would, we would obviously we

4696
02:46:15,860 --> 02:46:17,187
would get a credit for what

4697
02:46:17,187 --> 02:46:18,555
he's calculated for the. Do you

4698
02:46:18,555 --> 02:46:22,155
have an opinion on those two

4699
02:46:22,927 --> 02:46:23,962
different sets? I think the

4700
02:46:23,962 --> 02:46:25,762
issue with brick pavers

4701
02:46:25,762 --> 02:46:27,965
throughout the island, we just

4702
02:46:27,965 --> 02:46:29,733
replaced a number of speed

4703
02:46:29,733 --> 02:46:31,350
tables that were done in brick

4704
02:46:31,350 --> 02:46:32,636
pavers that were settling, that

4705
02:46:32,636 --> 02:46:34,405
we've had issues with not only

4706
02:46:34,405 --> 02:46:36,106
the, the speed tables are a bit

4707
02:46:36,106 --> 02:46:38,375
more complex than that, a bit

4708
02:46:38,375 --> 02:46:41,245
more complex, but they did have

4709
02:46:41,245 --> 02:46:42,713
issues, different issues.

4710
02:46:42,713 --> 02:46:44,114
Fernwood, the circles here on

4711
02:46:44,114 --> 02:46:45,616
Fernwood and some of the speed

4712
02:46:45,616 --> 02:46:46,650
tables here on Fernwood show

4713
02:46:46,650 --> 02:46:48,819
deterioration of the brick

4714
02:46:48,819 --> 02:46:49,887
pavers settlement. They all

4715
02:46:49,887 --> 02:46:51,722
settle greatly here in the

4716
02:46:51,722 --> 02:46:53,858
island. They're affected by our

4717
02:46:53,858 --> 02:46:55,493
the tidal the groundwater

4718
02:46:55,493 --> 02:46:57,940
moving up and down in our title

4719
02:46:57,940 --> 02:46:58,261
effect Harbor Drive. We're

4720
02:46:58,261 --> 02:46:59,262
talking about Harbor Drive, but

4721
02:46:59,262 --> 02:47:00,898
I was asked about throughout

4722
02:47:00,898 --> 02:47:02,499
the village brick pavers in my

4723
02:47:02,499 --> 02:47:05,369
in my opinion, on one versus

4724
02:47:05,369 --> 02:47:07,537
the other, I think we receive

4725
02:47:07,537 --> 02:47:09,739
much better stability with

4726
02:47:09,739 --> 02:47:10,840
stamped asphalt and the

4727
02:47:10,840 --> 02:47:12,243
stamping is just the esthetic

4728
02:47:12,243 --> 02:47:14,110
side. But I think we received

4729
02:47:14,110 --> 02:47:17,110
much better stability with the

4730
02:47:18,348 --> 02:47:19,483
asphalt and much a better

4731
02:47:19,483 --> 02:47:21,418
maintenance that can be done to

4732
02:47:21,418 --> 02:47:22,686
them. If we find issues we can

4733
02:47:22,686 --> 02:47:24,788
repay. You attest the failure

4734
02:47:24,788 --> 02:47:26,223
that former Council member

4735
02:47:26,223 --> 02:47:28,392
Brett Moss brought up with

4736
02:47:28,392 --> 02:47:29,359
regards to Brickell. I didn't

4737
02:47:29,359 --> 02:47:31,161
hear his comments on Brickell.

4738
02:47:31,161 --> 02:47:33,530
I'm sorry I wasn't in the room.

4739
02:47:33,530 --> 02:47:35,499
Brett, you want to tell him

4740
02:47:35,499 --> 02:47:36,567
what you saw? As far as they

4741
02:47:36,567 --> 02:47:38,567
deteriorated, they chipped.

4742
02:47:41,972 --> 02:47:43,773
They. Yeah, sure. Just get a

4743
02:47:43,773 --> 02:47:45,609
little description of the

4744
02:47:45,609 --> 02:47:48,112
comment. Was that in Brickell,

4745
02:47:48,112 --> 02:47:50,414
all the crosswalks were done

4746
02:47:50,414 --> 02:47:52,814
with asphalt, stamped asphalt

4747
02:47:53,550 --> 02:47:54,718
and patterned asphalt. And a

4748
02:47:54,718 --> 02:47:56,520
little bit more than three

4749
02:47:56,520 --> 02:47:58,188
years ago, you can tell that

4750
02:47:58,188 --> 02:47:59,990
they were chipping, cracking,

4751
02:47:59,990 --> 02:48:01,391
popping off. They were patching

4752
02:48:01,391 --> 02:48:03,193
them. And then finally, three

4753
02:48:03,193 --> 02:48:05,229
years ago, they came in,

4754
02:48:05,229 --> 02:48:06,831
removed all of it. And what did

4755
02:48:06,831 --> 02:48:08,320
they put in? They put the brick

4756
02:48:08,320 --> 02:48:09,867
brick pavers back, the concrete

4757
02:48:09,867 --> 02:48:11,501
brick pavers. So that's what

4758
02:48:11,501 --> 02:48:12,837
all Brickell has now because I

4759
02:48:12,837 --> 02:48:14,370
believe it. The other part of

4760
02:48:14,370 --> 02:48:16,574
the comment was that the brick

4761
02:48:16,574 --> 02:48:17,975
pavers had lasted 20 plus years.

4762
02:48:17,975 --> 02:48:20,375
Yes, with some deterioration,

4763
02:48:20,877 --> 02:48:21,978
but harbors different than the

4764
02:48:21,978 --> 02:48:24,378
tables. Correct. The speed

4765
02:48:24,482 --> 02:48:26,950
bumps. Right. It's more flat to

4766
02:48:26,950 --> 02:48:28,886
to COUNCILMAN Vasquez's point,

4767
02:48:28,886 --> 02:48:30,187
it requires heavy maintenance.

4768
02:48:30,187 --> 02:48:31,988
We have performed maintenance

4769
02:48:31,988 --> 02:48:33,791
on the circles on the brick

4770
02:48:33,791 --> 02:48:34,892
pavers, but it is a constant

4771
02:48:34,892 --> 02:48:36,694
maintenance and it is something

4772
02:48:36,694 --> 02:48:38,162
that we contract out. We do not

4773
02:48:38,162 --> 02:48:39,697
do that in-house. We don't have

4774
02:48:39,697 --> 02:48:41,398
the failures that were just

4775
02:48:41,398 --> 02:48:42,800
that he just described. Do I

4776
02:48:42,800 --> 02:48:45,669
have, I'm sorry, concern of the

4777
02:48:45,669 --> 02:48:47,471
failures that he just I don't

4778
02:48:47,471 --> 02:48:48,406
believe that we would have the

4779
02:48:48,406 --> 02:48:51,107
volume of traffic that they

4780
02:48:51,107 --> 02:48:52,542
have on Brickell. On our road.

4781
02:48:52,542 --> 02:48:54,811
We have significant traffic,

4782
02:48:54,811 --> 02:48:55,880
but not to that extent. So then

4783
02:48:55,880 --> 02:48:57,140
we're talking more about

4784
02:48:57,140 --> 02:48:58,115
esthetics, which is what you

4785
02:48:58,115 --> 02:49:00,160
were talking about. How do we

4786
02:49:00,160 --> 02:49:01,180
this is an esthetics point. You

4787
02:49:01,180 --> 02:49:02,719
mentioned something else, Chris,

4788
02:49:02,719 --> 02:49:04,388
about settlement, which makes

4789
02:49:04,388 --> 02:49:06,256
me remember. Now, maybe you

4790
02:49:06,256 --> 02:49:09,256
remember we had an engineering

4791
02:49:09,893 --> 02:49:11,227
firm which designed all the,

4792
02:49:11,227 --> 02:49:13,764
the circles with all the pavers

4793
02:49:13,764 --> 02:49:16,333
and everything else. And at the

4794
02:49:16,333 --> 02:49:18,535
time, Jean Santiago was our

4795
02:49:18,535 --> 02:49:19,903
chief building official, and he

4796
02:49:19,903 --> 02:49:22,406
had we had a requirement here

4797
02:49:22,406 --> 02:49:23,874
of 5000 psi concrete for

4798
02:49:23,874 --> 02:49:26,510
everything. And at that point

4799
02:49:26,510 --> 02:49:28,245
in time, these guys used 2,500

4800
02:49:28,245 --> 02:49:30,113
pounds. I remember Jim, you

4801
02:49:30,113 --> 02:49:31,414
remember. So actually they came

4802
02:49:31,414 --> 02:49:33,250
for another job and we brought

4803
02:49:33,250 --> 02:49:35,385
that up. So we didn't start

4804
02:49:35,385 --> 02:49:36,653
using them. Now, I don't know

4805
02:49:36,653 --> 02:49:38,489
if in fact I don't know what

4806
02:49:38,489 --> 02:49:39,689
kind of mesh or anything they

4807
02:49:39,689 --> 02:49:41,392
did for reinforcing this thing.

4808
02:49:41,392 --> 02:49:42,626
So I don't know what you're

4809
02:49:42,626 --> 02:49:43,793
going to do. Now for the base

4810
02:49:43,793 --> 02:49:45,563
underneath the pavers. We're

4811
02:49:45,563 --> 02:49:47,364
just going to use the same base

4812
02:49:47,364 --> 02:49:49,650
that's there correctly. If, if

4813
02:49:49,650 --> 02:49:50,200
if we're going to restore and

4814
02:49:50,200 --> 02:49:51,969
replace the pavers, we would

4815
02:49:51,969 --> 02:49:53,203
use the same base. If if the

4816
02:49:53,203 --> 02:49:55,380
integrity of that base is still.

4817
02:49:55,380 --> 02:49:56,273
But you have you had settlement

4818
02:49:56,273 --> 02:49:58,273
everywhere, just occasionally

4819
02:49:58,442 --> 02:49:59,609
in different places. All of the

4820
02:49:59,609 --> 02:50:02,120
traffic circles have some form

4821
02:50:02,120 --> 02:50:03,881
of settlement and need

4822
02:50:03,881 --> 02:50:05,716
significant restoration. I

4823
02:50:05,716 --> 02:50:08,840
don't know if I, I don't want

4824
02:50:08,840 --> 02:50:10,287
to say everything Of. By the

4825
02:50:10,287 --> 02:50:12,456
same token, I know that wasn't

4826
02:50:12,456 --> 02:50:13,857
done according to what our

4827
02:50:13,857 --> 02:50:15,925
building official the way he

4828
02:50:15,925 --> 02:50:17,600
wanted it done. And I know we

4829
02:50:17,600 --> 02:50:19,460
stopped using that engineering

4830
02:50:19,563 --> 02:50:21,963
firm again. 5000 psi is

4831
02:50:22,533 --> 02:50:24,435
significantly. It's over. Yeah,

4832
02:50:24,435 --> 02:50:25,536
but he also knew that as soon

4833
02:50:25,536 --> 02:50:26,770
as you start pouring into

4834
02:50:26,770 --> 02:50:29,306
cylinders, you add water to say,

4835
02:50:29,306 --> 02:50:31,475
you know, can I get more water?

4836
02:50:31,475 --> 02:50:33,410
MAY I offer something perhaps

4837
02:50:33,410 --> 02:50:35,245
as a way just to kind of find a

4838
02:50:35,245 --> 02:50:36,447
middle ground and move forward

4839
02:50:36,447 --> 02:50:38,248
with this? Is there a way that

4840
02:50:38,248 --> 02:50:39,383
you can negotiate with a

4841
02:50:39,383 --> 02:50:41,518
contractor, some contingency to

4842
02:50:41,518 --> 02:50:44,870
be added into the line items

4843
02:50:44,870 --> 02:50:45,155
here that covers for the brick

4844
02:50:45,155 --> 02:50:46,757
pavers right now? Should the

4845
02:50:46,757 --> 02:50:48,258
village choose to move forward

4846
02:50:48,258 --> 02:50:49,292
with that and allow us the

4847
02:50:49,292 --> 02:50:50,894
opportunity to talk about it

4848
02:50:50,894 --> 02:50:52,696
more in detail. We were on

4849
02:50:52,696 --> 02:50:55,232
second reading. I know, I know,

4850
02:50:55,232 --> 02:50:56,733
MR. Mayor. I'm but I'm asking a

4851
02:50:56,733 --> 02:50:57,634
question whether. So what

4852
02:50:57,634 --> 02:50:59,102
you're saying, basically, is

4853
02:50:59,102 --> 02:51:01,672
that we have to approve it

4854
02:51:01,672 --> 02:51:03,440
based on what it is or start

4855
02:51:03,440 --> 02:51:05,308
over. I mean, you know, no, no

4856
02:51:05,308 --> 02:51:06,877
I'm not. What I'm trying to say

4857
02:51:06,877 --> 02:51:07,978
is that I know we're in second

4858
02:51:07,978 --> 02:51:10,347
reading, but I'm asking if

4859
02:51:10,347 --> 02:51:12,747
there's an opportunity. Come

4860
02:51:12,883 --> 02:51:15,418
back quickly with a negotiated

4861
02:51:15,418 --> 02:51:16,820
value on this and bring it back.

4862
02:51:16,820 --> 02:51:18,155
But negotiate with the

4863
02:51:18,155 --> 02:51:19,289
contractor, see if you can

4864
02:51:19,289 --> 02:51:21,191
include a number right here in

4865
02:51:21,191 --> 02:51:23,591
the contingency. I don't

4866
02:51:24,600 --> 02:51:25,228
believe we can. Can you do that?

4867
02:51:25,228 --> 02:51:26,530
I'd have to double check. I

4868
02:51:26,530 --> 02:51:27,631
don't believe we can

4869
02:51:27,631 --> 02:51:29,466
renegotiate this contract.

4870
02:51:29,466 --> 02:51:30,968
That's what I'm saying. Okay,

4871
02:51:30,968 --> 02:51:32,736
well, can we. It would be an

4872
02:51:32,736 --> 02:51:34,838
add on. So it would be a change

4873
02:51:34,838 --> 02:51:36,273
or or or or get an agreement

4874
02:51:36,273 --> 02:51:38,750
with the contractor in writing

4875
02:51:38,750 --> 02:51:39,309
that you'll you'll subject to a

4876
02:51:39,309 --> 02:51:41,110
price. We agree to it. Tonight.

4877
02:51:41,110 --> 02:51:43,790
We move forward. You get a

4878
02:51:43,790 --> 02:51:44,247
price. We just I don't know. I

4879
02:51:44,247 --> 02:51:46,820
mean, it's going to hit us

4880
02:51:46,820 --> 02:51:47,351
anyway. I don't know. I think

4881
02:51:47,351 --> 02:51:49,119
we just we just had a solution.

4882
02:51:49,119 --> 02:51:50,721
Sign this contract and then we

4883
02:51:50,721 --> 02:51:52,122
want to change order. Okay.

4884
02:51:52,122 --> 02:51:53,557
Quickly and say it'll come back

4885
02:51:53,557 --> 02:51:55,659
to us with a price. Right.

4886
02:51:55,659 --> 02:51:57,561
Buyer beware. They're going to

4887
02:51:57,561 --> 02:52:00,561
hate you. Move forward. Is

4888
02:52:00,797 --> 02:52:03,197
there any difference in

4889
02:52:03,967 --> 02:52:06,136
treating this cost item as an

4890
02:52:06,136 --> 02:52:07,671
allowance and making a

4891
02:52:07,671 --> 02:52:09,740
selection. And that cost item

4892
02:52:09,740 --> 02:52:10,740
is applicable to that final

4893
02:52:10,740 --> 02:52:13,140
selection, whatever it happens

4894
02:52:14,440 --> 02:52:15,178
to be. I believe you're making

4895
02:52:15,178 --> 02:52:16,980
a significant change to the

4896
02:52:16,980 --> 02:52:17,781
contract. That's why my

4897
02:52:17,781 --> 02:52:19,483
recommendation would be approve

4898
02:52:19,483 --> 02:52:21,180
the contract and treat this as

4899
02:52:21,180 --> 02:52:22,385
a change order request from the

4900
02:52:22,385 --> 02:52:23,419
council, if that's the

4901
02:52:23,419 --> 02:52:24,621
expedited way. Let's get on

4902
02:52:24,621 --> 02:52:25,655
with it. I think that's the

4903
02:52:25,655 --> 02:52:27,424
expedited way. And Chris, do

4904
02:52:27,424 --> 02:52:28,425
you believe we'd have to

4905
02:52:28,425 --> 02:52:30,260
authorize additional money for

4906
02:52:30,260 --> 02:52:31,695
that or what do we need there?

4907
02:52:31,695 --> 02:52:33,663
Yeah, there could potentially

4908
02:52:33,663 --> 02:52:36,663
be a cost increase obviously

4909
02:52:37,134 --> 02:52:40,938
for the brick pavers. We have a

4910
02:52:40,938 --> 02:52:42,938
contingency with $24,000.25.

4911
02:52:43,400 --> 02:52:44,808
Well that's just for the that's

4912
02:52:44,808 --> 02:52:46,900
just for the stamp. That's just

4913
02:52:46,900 --> 02:52:47,177
we have a larger contingency in

4914
02:52:47,177 --> 02:52:48,679
the plot. I'm just saying

4915
02:52:48,679 --> 02:52:50,881
that'll do for bricks. Let's

4916
02:52:50,881 --> 02:52:52,248
just half $1 million. Half $1

4917
02:52:52,248 --> 02:52:53,284
million. Okay. So then the only

4918
02:52:53,284 --> 02:52:55,486
other question would be then

4919
02:52:55,486 --> 02:52:56,954
deciding how we set it. That's

4920
02:52:56,954 --> 02:52:59,890
that's that's an option that

4921
02:52:59,890 --> 02:53:00,790
Chris can provide us. Sand set

4922
02:53:00,790 --> 02:53:02,659
or concrete set. We'll let the

4923
02:53:02,659 --> 02:53:06,259
we'll let the contract. So we

4924
02:53:06,263 --> 02:53:08,799
go with it. And we, we are

4925
02:53:08,799 --> 02:53:10,300
agreeing to a potential change

4926
02:53:10,300 --> 02:53:13,700
order that. We don't know what

4927
02:53:13,700 --> 02:53:14,637
that amount is exactly, but we

4928
02:53:14,637 --> 02:53:16,600
need that quickly because you

4929
02:53:16,600 --> 02:53:17,207
said they're going to do that

4930
02:53:17,207 --> 02:53:18,909
right away and they're going to

4931
02:53:18,909 --> 02:53:20,100
start working on that right

4932
02:53:20,100 --> 02:53:21,377
away. So the scheduling that

4933
02:53:21,377 --> 02:53:23,147
we've talked with the

4934
02:53:23,147 --> 02:53:25,150
contractor was to start with

4935
02:53:25,150 --> 02:53:26,750
the circles, start with

4936
02:53:26,750 --> 02:53:29,653
multiple circles at one time

4937
02:53:29,653 --> 02:53:31,550
and and do correct. But we can

4938
02:53:31,550 --> 02:53:32,890
change. When's he going to

4939
02:53:32,890 --> 02:53:34,391
start. We're going to do that.

4940
02:53:34,391 --> 02:53:35,558
We were trying to get them

4941
02:53:35,558 --> 02:53:37,427
started immediately. As soon as

4942
02:53:37,427 --> 02:53:38,661
this is signed. That would be

4943
02:53:38,661 --> 02:53:40,430
like to adjust the schedule now

4944
02:53:40,430 --> 02:53:41,564
since we need to finish before

4945
02:53:41,564 --> 02:53:42,732
the mayor's done. Okay. Really,

4946
02:53:42,732 --> 02:53:44,501
it's one of the things we're

4947
02:53:44,501 --> 02:53:46,570
trying to do. So consensus of

4948
02:53:46,570 --> 02:53:48,380
council for the amendment. And

4949
02:53:48,380 --> 02:53:51,700
then there needs to be a public

4950
02:53:51,700 --> 02:53:54,700
hearing. Public hearing is now

4951
02:53:55,946 --> 02:53:57,214
open. Comments. Way to go.

4952
02:53:57,214 --> 02:53:59,916
Seeing no one come forward.

4953
02:53:59,916 --> 02:54:01,719
Public hearing is now closed.

4954
02:54:01,719 --> 02:54:03,787
So mayor so I understand. So we

4955
02:54:03,787 --> 02:54:04,921
signed contracts. Can we ask

4956
02:54:04,921 --> 02:54:05,922
them to reclaim the current

4957
02:54:05,922 --> 02:54:07,457
bricks to potentially reclaim

4958
02:54:07,457 --> 02:54:09,726
the bricks? We can. Okay, great.

4959
02:54:09,726 --> 02:54:11,795
Yeah. If they're so money, sign

4960
02:54:11,795 --> 02:54:13,263
the contract as is immediately

4961
02:54:13,263 --> 02:54:14,698
asked once it's signed for a

4962
02:54:14,698 --> 02:54:16,500
change order, get the quote for

4963
02:54:16,500 --> 02:54:18,301
the change order. If it's the

4964
02:54:18,301 --> 02:54:19,369
same, good for us, not the same.

4965
02:54:19,369 --> 02:54:21,138
We'll come back for the

4966
02:54:21,138 --> 02:54:22,606
additional money. I think you

4967
02:54:22,606 --> 02:54:23,674
can control that. Readjust the

4968
02:54:23,674 --> 02:54:25,750
readjust the schedule

4969
02:54:25,750 --> 02:54:26,409
accordingly. I think you can

4970
02:54:26,409 --> 02:54:27,644
control the price. Just come

4971
02:54:27,644 --> 02:54:29,613
back and let us know what it

4972
02:54:29,613 --> 02:54:31,414
will be. But I think you should

4973
02:54:31,414 --> 02:54:32,516
be able to control. It's not

4974
02:54:32,516 --> 02:54:33,484
like you're getting into some

4975
02:54:33,484 --> 02:54:35,418
unknown condition. Sure. But

4976
02:54:35,418 --> 02:54:36,620
it's going to be it's going to

4977
02:54:36,620 --> 02:54:39,490
be an addition. Bricks. Yeah.

4978
02:54:39,490 --> 02:54:42,250
Okay. Okay. All right. Council

4979
02:54:42,250 --> 02:54:44,161
member. London. Yes. On the

4980
02:54:44,161 --> 02:54:46,763
ordinance, as amended. And vice

4981
02:54:46,763 --> 02:54:48,131
mayor. Yes. Council member.

4982
02:54:48,131 --> 02:54:50,531
Stoner. Yes. Council member.

4983
02:54:51,368 --> 02:54:53,768
Vazquez. Yes. Mayor. Roscoe.

4984
02:54:54,604 --> 02:54:57,173
Baby. What? Yes. Thank you.

4985
02:54:57,173 --> 02:54:59,173
Council member. Bracken.

4986
02:54:59,309 --> 02:55:00,711
Council member. Kaplan. Yes.

4987
02:55:00,711 --> 02:55:03,711
The ordnance is adopted on

4988
02:55:03,980 --> 02:55:05,815
second reading, as amended. The

4989
02:55:05,815 --> 02:55:07,784
next item is an ordinance on

4990
02:55:07,784 --> 02:55:09,386
First Reading, an ordinance of

4991
02:55:09,386 --> 02:55:12,255
the Village of Key Biscayne,

4992
02:55:12,255 --> 02:55:13,724
Florida, amending section 21-11

4993
02:55:13,724 --> 02:55:15,125
of the Village Code of

4994
02:55:15,125 --> 02:55:16,559
Ordinances relating to the

4995
02:55:16,559 --> 02:55:19,463
placement of gravel and other

4996
02:55:19,463 --> 02:55:21,264
landscape materials in public

4997
02:55:21,264 --> 02:55:22,666
rights of way providing for

4998
02:55:22,666 --> 02:55:23,800
severability, providing for

4999
02:55:23,800 --> 02:55:25,235
codification, providing for

5000
02:55:25,235 --> 02:55:27,705
conflicts, and providing for an

5001
02:55:27,705 --> 02:55:30,105
effective date. Move second.

5002
02:55:30,207 --> 02:55:33,207
Thank you. Item properly before

5003
02:55:33,877 --> 02:55:36,460
us, MR. Director. Good evening.

5004
02:55:36,460 --> 02:55:37,881
So this is a relatively simple

5005
02:55:37,881 --> 02:55:40,281
item, whereas our code

5006
02:55:40,717 --> 02:55:42,119
currently only allows to be

5007
02:55:42,119 --> 02:55:43,954
funny. No no no. This is a

5008
02:55:43,954 --> 02:55:46,422
simple one. This one really is

5009
02:55:46,422 --> 02:55:49,920
simple. The our code only

5010
02:55:49,920 --> 02:55:51,461
allows turf in the first 3 or

5011
02:55:51,461 --> 02:55:55,610
6ft of the swale. This would

5012
02:55:56,899 --> 02:55:58,768
also allow gravel. Yay! Okay.

5013
02:55:58,768 --> 02:56:01,768
She's not even here, MISTER

5014
02:56:01,905 --> 02:56:02,972
COUNCILMAN. For gravel. Gravel

5015
02:56:02,972 --> 02:56:05,972
elastic. Enough. Should it? I

5016
02:56:06,242 --> 02:56:08,642
mean, oyster shells, decorative

5017
02:56:08,779 --> 02:56:10,948
pebbles. We're going to

5018
02:56:10,948 --> 02:56:12,416
generate a specification that

5019
02:56:12,416 --> 02:56:14,551
is going to be. It has to be

5020
02:56:14,551 --> 02:56:15,819
two things. Oyster shells are

5021
02:56:15,819 --> 02:56:18,488
not ideal because they break

5022
02:56:18,488 --> 02:56:20,156
down over time under weight. So

5023
02:56:20,156 --> 02:56:22,792
and we also don't want anything

5024
02:56:22,792 --> 02:56:24,270
that's too fine that when a car

5025
02:56:24,270 --> 02:56:25,729
travels over, it gets kicked

5026
02:56:25,729 --> 02:56:27,531
onto the asphalt that can

5027
02:56:27,531 --> 02:56:29,931
actually cause like basically

5028
02:56:30,367 --> 02:56:32,869
like a sandpaper effect between

5029
02:56:32,869 --> 02:56:34,303
the car tires and the asphalt

5030
02:56:34,303 --> 02:56:36,507
and where the asphalt away to

5031
02:56:36,507 --> 02:56:38,375
soon go down the drain or go

5032
02:56:38,375 --> 02:56:40,110
down the drain. All right, so

5033
02:56:40,110 --> 02:56:42,979
we're going to specify the

5034
02:56:42,979 --> 02:56:44,814
product for hardness and for

5035
02:56:44,814 --> 02:56:46,917
the size of the material. And

5036
02:56:46,917 --> 02:56:49,860
then let people final pick

5037
02:56:49,860 --> 02:56:51,221
their own product as long as it

5038
02:56:51,221 --> 02:56:53,220
meets those criteria. For

5039
02:56:53,220 --> 02:56:55,559
example, the I think we were on

5040
02:56:55,559 --> 02:56:58,829
our Zork tour and it was, what

5041
02:56:58,829 --> 02:57:01,532
was it? Greenwood. And there's

5042
02:57:01,532 --> 02:57:02,866
white pebbles that are aligned.

5043
02:57:02,866 --> 02:57:04,434
Do you remember? Yes. That

5044
02:57:04,434 --> 02:57:07,700
would that would pass muster, I

5045
02:57:07,700 --> 02:57:08,972
would think. I believe so.

5046
02:57:08,972 --> 02:57:10,307
There I would defer to our

5047
02:57:10,307 --> 02:57:12,108
public Works director whether

5048
02:57:12,108 --> 02:57:13,910
he wants something that is

5049
02:57:13,910 --> 02:57:15,379
angular, which tends to lock in

5050
02:57:15,379 --> 02:57:18,379
place better than like river

5051
02:57:18,949 --> 02:57:21,949
rock, which can slide. Skipping

5052
02:57:22,619 --> 02:57:25,619
stones MAY not be ideal.

5053
02:57:25,856 --> 02:57:28,725
Identified 57 rock is the sort

5054
02:57:28,725 --> 02:57:32,696
of standard that we model it on.

5055
02:57:32,696 --> 02:57:36,660
Is is MR. Bracken's rock, rock,

5056
02:57:36,660 --> 02:57:37,835
rock. Right. I'll need a sample

5057
02:57:37,835 --> 02:57:40,937
of your. It might be a little

5058
02:57:40,937 --> 02:57:42,472
small, but you got a 52,

5059
02:57:42,472 --> 02:57:44,674
perhaps. I probably got smaller

5060
02:57:44,674 --> 02:57:47,711
for sure. Oh, my feet are small,

5061
02:57:47,711 --> 02:57:49,579
so I'm sure I got to check it

5062
02:57:49,579 --> 02:57:52,416
out. All right. Any other

5063
02:57:52,416 --> 02:57:54,717
questions? I need to open a

5064
02:57:54,717 --> 02:57:57,117
public hearing. Public hearing

5065
02:58:00,357 --> 02:58:03,957
is now open. On rocks. Public

5066
02:58:04,127 --> 02:58:06,429
hearing is now closed. Vice

5067
02:58:06,429 --> 02:58:08,665
Mayor Sardinas, this is just on

5068
02:58:08,665 --> 02:58:11,401
one first reading. This is just

5069
02:58:11,401 --> 02:58:12,669
on 90. It's on first reading.

5070
02:58:12,669 --> 02:58:15,172
But it required a public

5071
02:58:15,172 --> 02:58:16,940
hearing, right? 90 is what I'm.

5072
02:58:16,940 --> 02:58:18,375
Yeah, 90 is the more

5073
02:58:18,375 --> 02:58:20,775
challenging. Okay, okay. Vice

5074
02:58:20,910 --> 02:58:23,413
mayor sardines on nine b yes.

5075
02:58:23,413 --> 02:58:24,882
Councilmember stoner yes.

5076
02:58:24,882 --> 02:58:26,316
Councilmember. Vasquez. Yes.

5077
02:58:26,316 --> 02:58:28,118
Mayor. Roscoe. Yes.

5078
02:58:28,118 --> 02:58:29,953
Councilmember. Bracken. Yes.

5079
02:58:29,953 --> 02:58:31,688
Councilmember. Kaplan. Yes.

5080
02:58:31,688 --> 02:58:33,688
Councilmember. London. Yes.

5081
02:58:34,224 --> 02:58:35,625
Okay. Yes. The irons is the

5082
02:58:35,625 --> 02:58:37,460
ordinance is approved on first

5083
02:58:37,460 --> 02:58:39,229
reading. The next item is an

5084
02:58:39,229 --> 02:58:40,730
ordinance on first reading, an

5085
02:58:40,730 --> 02:58:42,499
ordinance of the Village of Key

5086
02:58:42,499 --> 02:58:44,499
Biscayne, Florida, amending

5087
02:58:44,767 --> 02:58:46,469
section 5-4 of the Village Code

5088
02:58:46,469 --> 02:58:48,238
of Ordinances relating to

5089
02:58:48,238 --> 02:58:49,706
temporary construction, parking

5090
02:58:49,706 --> 02:58:51,174
and maintenance standards,

5091
02:58:51,174 --> 02:58:52,909
providing for severability,

5092
02:58:52,909 --> 02:58:54,411
providing for codification,

5093
02:58:54,411 --> 02:58:56,213
providing for conflicts, and

5094
02:58:56,213 --> 02:58:58,381
providing for an effective date

5095
02:58:58,381 --> 02:59:00,781
move. Second. Thank you.

5096
02:59:01,952 --> 02:59:04,421
Seconded. So two review. So

5097
02:59:04,421 --> 02:59:06,222
this is a probably more

5098
02:59:06,222 --> 02:59:08,580
difficult challenging ordinance

5099
02:59:08,580 --> 02:59:09,492
regarding a more difficult and

5100
02:59:09,492 --> 02:59:11,492
challenging topic regarding

5101
02:59:11,962 --> 02:59:13,797
swales, which is what do we do

5102
02:59:13,797 --> 02:59:15,999
with the problem of

5103
02:59:15,999 --> 02:59:18,399
construction parking. So right

5104
02:59:19,636 --> 02:59:20,804
now when somebody comes in for

5105
02:59:20,804 --> 02:59:22,439
construction site, we require

5106
02:59:22,439 --> 02:59:23,907
them to, to have a

5107
02:59:23,907 --> 02:59:25,907
pre-construction meeting. And

5108
02:59:26,420 --> 02:59:28,211
we already have standards for

5109
02:59:28,211 --> 02:59:30,347
how they deal with their own

5110
02:59:30,347 --> 02:59:32,347
construction site, including

5111
02:59:32,516 --> 02:59:34,418
putting gravel for a temporary

5112
02:59:34,418 --> 02:59:36,519
basis in the swales, which is

5113
02:59:36,519 --> 02:59:38,288
going to serve for their own

5114
02:59:38,288 --> 02:59:40,688
parking. So what we're

5115
02:59:40,824 --> 02:59:43,224
proposing is to basically

5116
02:59:43,293 --> 02:59:46,196
extend that area of where they

5117
02:59:46,196 --> 02:59:48,596
gravel to adjacent properties

5118
02:59:49,433 --> 02:59:51,833
to provide for temporary

5119
02:59:52,680 --> 02:59:54,504
parking spots in total. So that

5120
02:59:54,504 --> 02:59:57,600
would be two per adjacent

5121
02:59:57,600 --> 02:59:58,742
property. And that would

5122
02:59:58,742 --> 02:59:59,942
because of it's in this section

5123
02:59:59,942 --> 03:00:01,110
of the code where we already

5124
03:00:01,110 --> 03:00:02,779
have these provisions for

5125
03:00:02,779 --> 03:00:04,779
temporary site conditions.

5126
03:00:05,315 --> 03:00:07,450
We've got good coverage in here

5127
03:00:07,450 --> 03:00:09,253
for how you would do that, how

5128
03:00:09,253 --> 03:00:11,388
the how the process works with

5129
03:00:11,388 --> 03:00:14,291
our own code compliance staff

5130
03:00:14,291 --> 03:00:16,691
inspecting these areas, also

5131
03:00:16,793 --> 03:00:18,995
restoring it after the fact. So

5132
03:00:18,995 --> 03:00:21,631
what in a nutshell, we're doing

5133
03:00:21,631 --> 03:00:23,132
is where construction vehicles

5134
03:00:23,132 --> 03:00:24,134
now sort of disperse in the

5135
03:00:24,134 --> 03:00:26,169
neighborhood. We're going to

5136
03:00:26,169 --> 03:00:27,970
try and concentrate them. That

5137
03:00:27,970 --> 03:00:29,390
does mean the immediately

5138
03:00:29,390 --> 03:00:30,507
adjacent property owners are

5139
03:00:30,507 --> 03:00:32,275
going to have a little bit more

5140
03:00:32,275 --> 03:00:34,444
pain, because they are really

5141
03:00:34,444 --> 03:00:36,646
going to be where the parking

5142
03:00:36,646 --> 03:00:37,847
sort of designated concentrated,

5143
03:00:37,847 --> 03:00:39,483
but move them off the street,

5144
03:00:39,483 --> 03:00:41,651
but move them off the street,

5145
03:00:41,651 --> 03:00:42,719
move them off of just sort of

5146
03:00:42,719 --> 03:00:44,554
scattering through the whole

5147
03:00:44,554 --> 03:00:45,655
neighborhood and causing that

5148
03:00:45,655 --> 03:00:47,900
problem, and also creating a

5149
03:00:47,900 --> 03:00:49,226
surface that can take the

5150
03:00:49,226 --> 03:00:52,950
beating in the short term and

5151
03:00:52,950 --> 03:00:53,463
creating a way where that

5152
03:00:53,463 --> 03:00:54,597
contractor team, the owner of

5153
03:00:54,597 --> 03:00:56,320
that property is going to be

5154
03:00:56,320 --> 03:00:57,835
responsible for restoring the

5155
03:00:57,835 --> 03:00:58,969
landscape to the

5156
03:00:58,969 --> 03:01:00,704
pre-construction conditions on

5157
03:01:00,704 --> 03:01:03,104
their neighbors, where, again,

5158
03:01:04,340 --> 03:01:06,276
we do hold folks accountable

5159
03:01:06,276 --> 03:01:08,679
when they wreck swales and we

5160
03:01:08,679 --> 03:01:10,460
won't give them a c oh before

5161
03:01:10,460 --> 03:01:12,615
they do it, but there's not

5162
03:01:12,615 --> 03:01:15,840
really a provision to say, oh,

5163
03:01:15,840 --> 03:01:16,286
you damaged the neighbor's

5164
03:01:16,286 --> 03:01:18,870
landscape that was in the swale.

5165
03:01:18,870 --> 03:01:19,890
Like, we don't really have an

5166
03:01:19,890 --> 03:01:21,489
enforcement mechanism for that.

5167
03:01:21,624 --> 03:01:23,726
And now we would. So I do think

5168
03:01:23,726 --> 03:01:25,662
the restoration aspect of it is,

5169
03:01:25,662 --> 03:01:28,432
is improved with this. I would

5170
03:01:28,432 --> 03:01:30,634
like to to offer a thought.

5171
03:01:30,634 --> 03:01:33,570
Jeremy. Sure. When we do high

5172
03:01:33,570 --> 03:01:35,638
rise projects, we bus people in

5173
03:01:35,638 --> 03:01:37,173
and out of the projects. Okay.

5174
03:01:37,173 --> 03:01:38,909
And for example, when my crews

5175
03:01:38,909 --> 03:01:40,710
come in, they're required to

5176
03:01:40,710 --> 03:01:43,213
drop off and go find off site

5177
03:01:43,213 --> 03:01:45,140
parking. Okay. You know, the,

5178
03:01:45,140 --> 03:01:46,817
the park has the I mean, I'm

5179
03:01:46,817 --> 03:01:48,685
not going to put words in the

5180
03:01:48,685 --> 03:01:50,860
mouth, but the Bill Baggs Park

5181
03:01:50,860 --> 03:01:51,488
has provided this service to

5182
03:01:51,488 --> 03:01:52,922
many of these high rise

5183
03:01:52,922 --> 03:01:54,457
projects. When they're doing

5184
03:01:54,457 --> 03:01:56,457
concrete restoration, there

5185
03:01:56,560 --> 03:01:59,620
should be a means and method

5186
03:01:59,620 --> 03:02:00,130
for the contractors with their

5187
03:02:00,130 --> 03:02:02,298
subcontractors to be able to

5188
03:02:02,298 --> 03:02:03,699
drop their employees and go off

5189
03:02:03,699 --> 03:02:05,536
site parking. Okay. I

5190
03:02:05,536 --> 03:02:07,671
appreciate the fact that I just

5191
03:02:07,671 --> 03:02:09,506
see this as as a huge burden on

5192
03:02:09,506 --> 03:02:11,675
the neighbor to say, hey,

5193
03:02:11,675 --> 03:02:13,476
you're going to put two parking

5194
03:02:13,476 --> 03:02:14,611
places in front of my house.

5195
03:02:14,611 --> 03:02:16,713
And the concept that we're

5196
03:02:16,713 --> 03:02:19,549
going to somehow be able to

5197
03:02:19,549 --> 03:02:21,751
regulate the damage that's done,

5198
03:02:21,751 --> 03:02:23,186
and then post, post

5199
03:02:23,186 --> 03:02:25,354
reconstruction of the people's

5200
03:02:25,354 --> 03:02:26,456
yards just sounds like a

5201
03:02:26,456 --> 03:02:27,858
nightmare. Okay. I would just

5202
03:02:27,858 --> 03:02:30,393
encourage them to say, you got

5203
03:02:30,393 --> 03:02:32,940
to put your people off site and

5204
03:02:32,940 --> 03:02:33,296
bring it back on site. And if

5205
03:02:33,296 --> 03:02:34,197
that adds $20,000 to the

5206
03:02:34,197 --> 03:02:36,166
construction cost of a new

5207
03:02:36,166 --> 03:02:37,300
house in Key Biscayne, I guess

5208
03:02:37,300 --> 03:02:39,402
that's just the way it's going

5209
03:02:39,402 --> 03:02:41,904
to be, because I think putting

5210
03:02:41,904 --> 03:02:44,741
those two neighbors in that

5211
03:02:44,741 --> 03:02:46,176
dispute is going to put you

5212
03:02:46,176 --> 03:02:48,110
enforcement guys in a huge

5213
03:02:48,110 --> 03:02:51,110
problem. Well, it's also not

5214
03:02:51,948 --> 03:02:54,485
fair for a person to have to

5215
03:02:54,485 --> 03:02:56,653
live the construction of the

5216
03:02:56,653 --> 03:02:57,754
neighbor, having the gravel in

5217
03:02:57,754 --> 03:02:58,822
their front yard, having the

5218
03:02:58,822 --> 03:03:00,657
parking in their front yard.

5219
03:03:00,657 --> 03:03:01,892
It's just, it's just not fair.

5220
03:03:01,892 --> 03:03:04,194
And, but that is what they have

5221
03:03:04,194 --> 03:03:05,895
now. And it's legal. And we

5222
03:03:05,895 --> 03:03:06,929
don't have a method for

5223
03:03:06,929 --> 03:03:08,865
restoration. I just want to

5224
03:03:08,865 --> 03:03:10,266
point that out. So I do think

5225
03:03:10,266 --> 03:03:11,768
enforcement is is a little

5226
03:03:11,768 --> 03:03:12,836
complicated. I also think that

5227
03:03:12,836 --> 03:03:14,971
choosing of the adjacent

5228
03:03:14,971 --> 03:03:16,506
property is kind of wonky,

5229
03:03:16,506 --> 03:03:17,841
right? Who decides which

5230
03:03:17,841 --> 03:03:19,342
property? Because it can be

5231
03:03:19,342 --> 03:03:21,144
across the street next to you

5232
03:03:21,144 --> 03:03:22,945
or whatnot. But I do understand

5233
03:03:22,945 --> 03:03:24,147
as well on some of these bigger

5234
03:03:24,147 --> 03:03:25,782
projects, I think it's easier

5235
03:03:25,782 --> 03:03:27,550
as opposed to a residential

5236
03:03:27,550 --> 03:03:28,752
where you have. We talked about

5237
03:03:28,752 --> 03:03:29,920
the different tradesmen. They

5238
03:03:29,920 --> 03:03:32,256
need their truck, they have

5239
03:03:32,256 --> 03:03:33,724
their equipment. It gets a

5240
03:03:33,724 --> 03:03:35,525
little bit more complex. And I

5241
03:03:35,525 --> 03:03:37,293
think the intent here is just

5242
03:03:37,293 --> 03:03:38,428
to move what's already

5243
03:03:38,428 --> 03:03:40,530
happening from the middle of

5244
03:03:40,530 --> 03:03:43,433
the street, causing traffic and

5245
03:03:43,433 --> 03:03:45,768
issues. Now moving those trucks

5246
03:03:45,768 --> 03:03:48,138
onto our swales, that is that's

5247
03:03:48,138 --> 03:03:49,572
the intent. Yeah. I think the

5248
03:03:49,572 --> 03:03:52,409
people next to the construction

5249
03:03:52,409 --> 03:03:54,611
site are already feeling the

5250
03:03:54,611 --> 03:03:57,480
pain. Anyway, I have friends.

5251
03:03:57,480 --> 03:03:58,915
Yeah, I saw it happening. Yeah.

5252
03:03:58,915 --> 03:04:00,490
Every day would drive by their

5253
03:04:00,490 --> 03:04:01,830
house. They had construction

5254
03:04:01,830 --> 03:04:03,483
next door. The construction

5255
03:04:03,654 --> 03:04:04,820
went on for over a year, and we

5256
03:04:04,820 --> 03:04:05,889
had someone complain and said

5257
03:04:05,889 --> 03:04:07,560
they were feeling the pain.

5258
03:04:07,560 --> 03:04:08,825
Already know every morning they

5259
03:04:08,825 --> 03:04:09,993
would get up and they would

5260
03:04:09,993 --> 03:04:10,994
park on the street. So the

5261
03:04:10,994 --> 03:04:12,262
construction people couldn't

5262
03:04:12,262 --> 03:04:13,830
park and ruined their whole

5263
03:04:13,830 --> 03:04:15,932
front yard and live with that

5264
03:04:15,932 --> 03:04:18,100
mud and mess and the gravel and

5265
03:04:18,100 --> 03:04:18,802
everything for a year, 18

5266
03:04:18,802 --> 03:04:19,836
months. The problem to the

5267
03:04:19,836 --> 03:04:21,605
other, yeah, it creates a

5268
03:04:21,605 --> 03:04:23,373
problem for somebody else. But

5269
03:04:23,373 --> 03:04:25,108
I understand every homeowner

5270
03:04:25,108 --> 03:04:27,377
who really doesn't want to do

5271
03:04:27,377 --> 03:04:29,145
that. But one thing I will say

5272
03:04:29,145 --> 03:04:30,613
regarding to elaborate on

5273
03:04:30,613 --> 03:04:33,116
something that Oscar and I had

5274
03:04:33,116 --> 03:04:34,584
discussed, it is very different

5275
03:04:34,584 --> 03:04:35,752
between a high rise project

5276
03:04:35,752 --> 03:04:38,154
where you've got control over

5277
03:04:38,154 --> 03:04:39,255
the contractors, and it is the

5278
03:04:39,255 --> 03:04:41,792
challenge where you're going to

5279
03:04:41,792 --> 03:04:44,694
have. You might have six trades,

5280
03:04:44,694 --> 03:04:45,995
four trades on site. And and of

5281
03:04:45,995 --> 03:04:48,631
course, they have their tools

5282
03:04:48,631 --> 03:04:50,166
in the truck. So you need at

5283
03:04:50,166 --> 03:04:53,166
least one vehicle per trade

5284
03:04:53,637 --> 03:04:55,104
that's on site. Can we could we

5285
03:04:55,104 --> 03:04:58,704
defer this for a second? Okay.

5286
03:04:59,750 --> 03:05:00,943
And, and ask Interscope 2 or 3

5287
03:05:00,943 --> 03:05:02,145
of the two of the three of the

5288
03:05:02,145 --> 03:05:03,780
major general contractors that

5289
03:05:03,780 --> 03:05:04,915
that build out here asking for

5290
03:05:04,915 --> 03:05:06,716
their opinion on how best to

5291
03:05:06,716 --> 03:05:08,751
sort this out. Absolutely. Yeah.

5292
03:05:08,751 --> 03:05:09,853
Those guys are the experts.

5293
03:05:09,853 --> 03:05:11,988
They're dealing with it all the

5294
03:05:11,988 --> 03:05:14,524
time. They build high end like

5295
03:05:14,524 --> 03:05:17,427
these homes are not. No, look,

5296
03:05:17,427 --> 03:05:18,494
we'll I'll, I will reach out to

5297
03:05:18,494 --> 03:05:20,163
first reading. Do we want to

5298
03:05:20,163 --> 03:05:22,980
look we were clear. And I think

5299
03:05:22,980 --> 03:05:23,233
when we met with each one of

5300
03:05:23,233 --> 03:05:25,301
you, we're trying to solve a

5301
03:05:25,301 --> 03:05:26,702
problem as a challenge. So we

5302
03:05:26,702 --> 03:05:28,104
want to start the conversation.

5303
03:05:28,104 --> 03:05:30,600
And we don't know if this is

5304
03:05:30,600 --> 03:05:31,410
the solution. You know, it's I

5305
03:05:31,410 --> 03:05:32,175
think it's closer to the

5306
03:05:32,175 --> 03:05:35,175
solution, but it might might

5307
03:05:35,378 --> 03:05:37,213
not be it for sure. I think we

5308
03:05:37,213 --> 03:05:38,314
need to defer it. I think you

5309
03:05:38,314 --> 03:05:40,160
can give us direction in

5310
03:05:40,160 --> 03:05:41,885
between to come back. Yeah.

5311
03:05:41,885 --> 03:05:43,686
Well, but can you park on

5312
03:05:43,686 --> 03:05:45,488
what's the best way to do the

5313
03:05:45,488 --> 03:05:46,990
procedure on this? Should we

5314
03:05:46,990 --> 03:05:48,491
defer it or do they give us

5315
03:05:48,491 --> 03:05:49,592
direction and we come back? I

5316
03:05:49,592 --> 03:05:51,594
will reach out to the

5317
03:05:51,594 --> 03:05:54,970
contractor. So the title is

5318
03:05:54,970 --> 03:05:54,965
amending 5.4 relating to

5319
03:05:54,965 --> 03:05:56,666
temporary construction, parking

5320
03:05:56,666 --> 03:05:58,802
and maintenance standards. I

5321
03:05:58,802 --> 03:06:00,736
think that's broad enough to

5322
03:06:00,736 --> 03:06:02,338
probably accomplish what you're

5323
03:06:02,338 --> 03:06:04,173
saying, right. So you could get

5324
03:06:04,173 --> 03:06:06,376
through first reading and then

5325
03:06:06,376 --> 03:06:08,912
and then before second reading,

5326
03:06:08,912 --> 03:06:10,347
meet with the industry experts,

5327
03:06:10,347 --> 03:06:12,448
provide additional changes. We

5328
03:06:12,448 --> 03:06:14,651
would be fine if you want to

5329
03:06:14,651 --> 03:06:16,720
keep the process going. I just

5330
03:06:16,720 --> 03:06:18,655
want to try to take the burden

5331
03:06:18,655 --> 03:06:20,891
off the neighbors and try to

5332
03:06:20,891 --> 03:06:22,258
try to talk to Mike and talk to

5333
03:06:22,258 --> 03:06:23,693
other of these Toto, you know,

5334
03:06:23,693 --> 03:06:24,928
say, come up with some ideas. I

5335
03:06:24,928 --> 03:06:26,529
think Councilmember Bracken,

5336
03:06:26,529 --> 03:06:28,698
the way maybe one suggestion

5337
03:06:28,698 --> 03:06:29,699
would be you can pass it on

5338
03:06:29,699 --> 03:06:30,867
first reading and give

5339
03:06:30,867 --> 03:06:33,200
direction to the administration

5340
03:06:33,200 --> 03:06:34,804
to hold an industry forum to

5341
03:06:34,804 --> 03:06:36,239
receive feedback and

5342
03:06:36,239 --> 03:06:38,410
suggestions before second

5343
03:06:38,410 --> 03:06:39,543
reading. Jocelyn, as he as he

5344
03:06:39,543 --> 03:06:42,110
amended it, please, I would

5345
03:06:42,110 --> 03:06:43,146
amend it. And, you know, we

5346
03:06:43,146 --> 03:06:45,982
still have a quorum. So it

5347
03:06:45,982 --> 03:06:47,283
could be consensus of Council

5348
03:06:47,283 --> 03:06:49,520
and Councilmember Bracken. You

5349
03:06:49,520 --> 03:06:50,219
know, if we can't get there,

5350
03:06:50,219 --> 03:06:51,354
we'll let you know. Right. I

5351
03:06:51,354 --> 03:06:53,890
mean, this this is something

5352
03:06:53,890 --> 03:06:54,124
that we needed to start a

5353
03:06:54,124 --> 03:06:55,324
conversation, right? First one

5354
03:06:55,324 --> 03:06:57,193
is very straightforward. I

5355
03:06:57,193 --> 03:06:58,595
encourage this conversation. No,

5356
03:06:58,595 --> 03:07:00,831
no, look, I appreciate we

5357
03:07:00,831 --> 03:07:02,666
didn't had no pretense that we

5358
03:07:02,666 --> 03:07:03,834
had solved everything here. We

5359
03:07:03,834 --> 03:07:05,401
had the same conversation

5360
03:07:05,401 --> 03:07:07,801
earlier. Jeremy. Yeah. Good.

5361
03:07:08,672 --> 03:07:10,473
I'm good. You guys are good.

5362
03:07:10,473 --> 03:07:12,241
Then we need a public hearing.

5363
03:07:12,241 --> 03:07:14,744
If the vice mayor can open a

5364
03:07:14,744 --> 03:07:17,144
public for public hearing,

5365
03:07:19,449 --> 03:07:21,251
anybody. Know? People want to

5366
03:07:21,251 --> 03:07:23,520
close public hearing? Thank you.

5367
03:07:23,520 --> 03:07:24,821
Good job. Oscar. All right.

5368
03:07:24,821 --> 03:07:26,990
I'll just share this for the

5369
03:07:26,990 --> 03:07:29,492
moment. I think that this is

5370
03:07:29,492 --> 03:07:31,328
the existing conditions are

5371
03:07:31,328 --> 03:07:32,662
what they are. Yeah. I don't

5372
03:07:32,662 --> 03:07:34,263
think I'll be interested in

5373
03:07:34,263 --> 03:07:36,400
what industry feedback says. I

5374
03:07:36,400 --> 03:07:38,268
don't see any way to avoid the

5375
03:07:38,268 --> 03:07:39,969
burden on the neighbors. We're

5376
03:07:39,969 --> 03:07:41,437
in a dense community. Neighbors

5377
03:07:41,437 --> 03:07:43,239
have the right to build. When

5378
03:07:43,239 --> 03:07:44,841
they do, there's spillover. The

5379
03:07:44,841 --> 03:07:47,110
one thing that this does that

5380
03:07:47,110 --> 03:07:48,978
does not exist is provide for

5381
03:07:48,978 --> 03:07:50,413
restoration, and that is a

5382
03:07:50,413 --> 03:07:52,413
continuing problem because

5383
03:07:52,548 --> 03:07:54,718
there is degradation all the

5384
03:07:54,718 --> 03:07:56,553
time because of all this

5385
03:07:56,553 --> 03:07:59,220
construction. So I'm ready to

5386
03:07:59,220 --> 03:08:01,591
go. I have just one last

5387
03:08:01,591 --> 03:08:02,992
comment. If we end up going

5388
03:08:02,992 --> 03:08:05,392
forward, ultimately with this

5389
03:08:07,330 --> 03:08:10,930
this structure, I would I would

5390
03:08:11,234 --> 03:08:14,834
want to have a procedure in

5391
03:08:14,838 --> 03:08:17,774
place where you get the, the,

5392
03:08:17,774 --> 03:08:19,575
the agreement of the neighbor

5393
03:08:19,575 --> 03:08:21,677
that they have been properly

5394
03:08:21,677 --> 03:08:22,812
restored instead of because I

5395
03:08:22,812 --> 03:08:24,247
know sometimes make sure that

5396
03:08:24,247 --> 03:08:25,414
they're happy with the

5397
03:08:25,414 --> 03:08:27,484
restoration. That's fair. Sign

5398
03:08:27,484 --> 03:08:29,285
off. Precio. Yeah. Something,

5399
03:08:29,285 --> 03:08:30,386
something instead of having

5400
03:08:30,386 --> 03:08:32,288
actually a really good look.

5401
03:08:32,288 --> 03:08:34,358
And I think we would need to,

5402
03:08:34,358 --> 03:08:35,825
you know, we don't have an sop

5403
03:08:35,825 --> 03:08:37,927
for this yet, right. But we

5404
03:08:37,927 --> 03:08:39,328
would need to extensively

5405
03:08:39,328 --> 03:08:40,830
document the property

5406
03:08:40,830 --> 03:08:41,864
beforehand. You know, we don't

5407
03:08:41,864 --> 03:08:44,670
want to have anybody coming

5408
03:08:44,670 --> 03:08:47,270
back. I had gold nuggets in my

5409
03:08:47,270 --> 03:08:49,720
swale before. And by the way,

5410
03:08:49,720 --> 03:08:50,206
this idea, did it come from

5411
03:08:50,206 --> 03:08:52,141
another municipality? You saw

5412
03:08:52,141 --> 03:08:53,176
it. How did this what was the

5413
03:08:53,176 --> 03:08:54,377
brainchild for this? Oh, I

5414
03:08:54,377 --> 03:08:56,312
think we were just tossing

5415
03:08:56,312 --> 03:08:58,781
around. We know what other

5416
03:08:58,781 --> 03:09:00,783
municipalities do. Coral Gables

5417
03:09:00,783 --> 03:09:01,885
one of the issues we face is we

5418
03:09:01,885 --> 03:09:03,190
have such small lots that

5419
03:09:03,190 --> 03:09:05,421
there's not a whole lot of

5420
03:09:05,421 --> 03:09:06,956
space to park it. Coral Gables

5421
03:09:06,956 --> 03:09:09,258
does not allow any vehicles to

5422
03:09:09,258 --> 03:09:10,460
park on the road, so you can't

5423
03:09:10,460 --> 03:09:12,129
park on the swale. They have

5424
03:09:12,129 --> 03:09:13,230
they have larger swales

5425
03:09:13,230 --> 03:09:14,631
typically. Yeah, typically they

5426
03:09:14,631 --> 03:09:17,166
park on the lawn. Kendall,

5427
03:09:17,166 --> 03:09:20,166
South Miami. I haven't seen

5428
03:09:20,203 --> 03:09:21,104
anything else. Exactly. We have

5429
03:09:21,104 --> 03:09:23,504
Surfside residential would be

5430
03:09:24,240 --> 03:09:25,775
about as close to us as our

5431
03:09:25,775 --> 03:09:28,578
small house with high end homes.

5432
03:09:28,578 --> 03:09:29,779
Yeah, yeah. Thank you though. I

5433
03:09:29,779 --> 03:09:31,481
will look into that. I'll look

5434
03:09:31,481 --> 03:09:32,549
into that as well to see if

5435
03:09:32,549 --> 03:09:34,484
there's anybody else want to

5436
03:09:34,484 --> 03:09:36,319
make sure. I know we mentioned

5437
03:09:36,319 --> 03:09:37,487
here. I want to make sure you

5438
03:09:37,487 --> 03:09:39,322
guys are clear that remember

5439
03:09:39,322 --> 03:09:40,524
this is public right of way. So,

5440
03:09:40,524 --> 03:09:41,591
you know, so we're not ongoing

5441
03:09:41,591 --> 03:09:43,326
on anyone's property. We're

5442
03:09:43,326 --> 03:09:44,427
going on public right of way.

5443
03:09:44,427 --> 03:09:46,596
So, you know, getting their

5444
03:09:46,596 --> 03:09:48,631
sign off, which is kind of a

5445
03:09:48,631 --> 03:09:50,867
questionable, I think it sign

5446
03:09:50,867 --> 03:09:52,335
off was for the, the no no no,

5447
03:09:52,335 --> 03:09:54,304
I understand no, I understand

5448
03:09:54,304 --> 03:09:55,571
now our code guys would have to

5449
03:09:55,571 --> 03:09:57,390
be very stringent on taking

5450
03:09:57,390 --> 03:09:58,842
pictures beforehand. Right. We

5451
03:09:58,842 --> 03:10:00,710
have a similar ordinance in

5452
03:10:00,710 --> 03:10:02,579
place. If someone does a cut in

5453
03:10:02,579 --> 03:10:03,813
the road that it needs to go

5454
03:10:03,813 --> 03:10:05,815
back to the same standard. So

5455
03:10:05,815 --> 03:10:07,170
we require it to be, you know,

5456
03:10:07,170 --> 03:10:08,651
take pictures in advance that

5457
03:10:08,651 --> 03:10:10,586
they sign off. This is what it

5458
03:10:10,586 --> 03:10:12,656
is and they need to return it

5459
03:10:12,656 --> 03:10:13,723
to it. I just want to be clear,

5460
03:10:13,723 --> 03:10:14,791
we're not we're not getting

5461
03:10:14,791 --> 03:10:16,526
there right now, but we're

5462
03:10:16,526 --> 03:10:17,794
talking about public right of

5463
03:10:17,794 --> 03:10:19,629
way. And it is it's also worth

5464
03:10:19,629 --> 03:10:20,763
noting this section of the code

5465
03:10:20,763 --> 03:10:21,831
in the event that, say, a

5466
03:10:21,831 --> 03:10:23,533
construction site is abandoned

5467
03:10:23,533 --> 03:10:24,734
and they stop maintaining it,

5468
03:10:24,734 --> 03:10:26,669
the village would be able to do

5469
03:10:26,669 --> 03:10:27,703
the restoration and take care

5470
03:10:27,703 --> 03:10:28,804
of the maintenance, because

5471
03:10:28,804 --> 03:10:31,341
there's a provision to then

5472
03:10:31,341 --> 03:10:32,975
bill it back to the site and,

5473
03:10:32,975 --> 03:10:34,477
you know, it ends up with with

5474
03:10:34,477 --> 03:10:38,770
a leaned property, that sort of

5475
03:10:38,415 --> 03:10:40,815
thing. It's precedented though.

5476
03:10:41,284 --> 03:10:44,284
Okay, good. Okay, okay. Thank

5477
03:10:44,520 --> 03:10:46,690
you. So, okay. Council member

5478
03:10:46,690 --> 03:10:49,592
stoner on the nine c, as

5479
03:10:49,592 --> 03:10:51,592
amended. Yes. Councilmember

5480
03:10:52,829 --> 03:10:54,297
Vazquez yes. Mayor Bosco yes.

5481
03:10:54,297 --> 03:10:55,398
Councilmember Bracken yes.

5482
03:10:55,398 --> 03:10:56,566
Councilmember Kaplan. Yes.

5483
03:10:56,566 --> 03:10:58,566
Councilmember. London. Yes.

5484
03:10:58,935 --> 03:11:01,804
Vice mayor. Yes. Yes. Is

5485
03:11:01,804 --> 03:11:03,572
approved on first reading. The

5486
03:11:03,572 --> 03:11:05,441
next item is a resolution of

5487
03:11:05,441 --> 03:11:06,509
the Village Council of the

5488
03:11:06,509 --> 03:11:07,577
Village of Key Biscayne,

5489
03:11:07,577 --> 03:11:09,379
Florida, authorizing the

5490
03:11:09,379 --> 03:11:11,180
village manager to negotiate

5491
03:11:11,180 --> 03:11:12,982
and enter into a Third

5492
03:11:12,982 --> 03:11:14,384
Amendment to the Solid Waste

5493
03:11:14,384 --> 03:11:16,784
Collection Agreement with Great

5494
03:11:16,953 --> 03:11:18,388
Waste and Recycling Services,

5495
03:11:18,388 --> 03:11:20,156
llc, and providing for an

5496
03:11:20,156 --> 03:11:22,556
effective date move. Second.

5497
03:11:22,725 --> 03:11:24,600
Second. Thank you. Yes, sir.

5498
03:11:24,600 --> 03:11:25,195
Yeah. Quickly. I think you

5499
03:11:25,195 --> 03:11:26,129
heard from the sab tonight

5500
03:11:26,129 --> 03:11:27,163
about some of the

5501
03:11:27,163 --> 03:11:29,650
recommendations that are going

5502
03:11:29,650 --> 03:11:30,660
to go in the rfp with this

5503
03:11:30,660 --> 03:11:31,670
contract extension. Does is

5504
03:11:31,670 --> 03:11:32,302
just avoid that disruption

5505
03:11:32,302 --> 03:11:33,869
while we work on getting that

5506
03:11:33,869 --> 03:11:35,205
solicitation issued selection

5507
03:11:35,205 --> 03:11:36,973
panel and also transition to

5508
03:11:36,973 --> 03:11:38,541
the new vendor. This allows us

5509
03:11:38,541 --> 03:11:39,942
a six month window. The vendors

5510
03:11:39,942 --> 03:11:41,343
provide us the same existing

5511
03:11:41,343 --> 03:11:42,578
pricing that we've had, which I

5512
03:11:42,578 --> 03:11:44,347
think is a great deal. And

5513
03:11:44,347 --> 03:11:45,448
beyond that, if this for a

5514
03:11:45,448 --> 03:11:46,582
reason goes beyond the six

5515
03:11:46,582 --> 03:11:48,584
months, there's a 10% increase.

5516
03:11:48,584 --> 03:11:50,319
If we want to go month to month.

5517
03:11:50,319 --> 03:11:51,521
Beyond that, I don't anticipate

5518
03:11:51,521 --> 03:11:52,588
us getting there. By that point.

5519
03:11:52,588 --> 03:11:55,588
The solicitation should be done.

5520
03:11:56,159 --> 03:11:57,994
Okay. Questions? No. No move.

5521
03:11:57,994 --> 03:12:00,496
MR. Trash man. Move. You're

5522
03:12:00,496 --> 03:12:04,960
good. Yep. All right. All those

5523
03:12:04,434 --> 03:12:07,434
in favor? Aye. Opposed. Motion

5524
03:12:08,370 --> 03:12:09,105
carries. The next item is a

5525
03:12:09,105 --> 03:12:10,606
resolution of the village

5526
03:12:10,606 --> 03:12:12,700
council of the village of Key

5527
03:12:12,700 --> 03:12:14,700
Biscayne, Florida, providing

5528
03:12:15,278 --> 03:12:17,800
for ratification of the 2026

5529
03:12:17,800 --> 03:12:18,481
2029 collective bargaining

5530
03:12:18,481 --> 03:12:20,316
agreement between the village

5531
03:12:20,316 --> 03:12:23,186
and the International Union of

5532
03:12:23,186 --> 03:12:24,654
Police Associations. Afl-cio

5533
03:12:24,654 --> 03:12:25,722
for the bargaining unit

5534
03:12:25,722 --> 03:12:27,323
consisting of the village's

5535
03:12:27,323 --> 03:12:29,292
police lieutenants authorizing

5536
03:12:29,292 --> 03:12:30,760
the village manager to sign the

5537
03:12:30,760 --> 03:12:32,194
collective bargaining agreement

5538
03:12:32,194 --> 03:12:34,364
on behalf of the village and

5539
03:12:34,364 --> 03:12:35,865
take all actions necessary to

5540
03:12:35,865 --> 03:12:37,600
implement the agreement and

5541
03:12:37,600 --> 03:12:40,600
providing for an effective date.

5542
03:12:41,537 --> 03:12:44,740
Move. Second. Thank you. How

5543
03:12:44,740 --> 03:12:45,842
did the Red Sox do? Well, they

5544
03:12:45,842 --> 03:12:47,677
just had strike three and the

5545
03:12:47,677 --> 03:12:49,879
passed ball, and we're in extra

5546
03:12:49,879 --> 03:12:50,913
innings. Oh, they won last

5547
03:12:50,913 --> 03:12:52,549
night though. You met last

5548
03:12:52,549 --> 03:12:55,585
night. Oh, last night they won.

5549
03:12:55,585 --> 03:12:59,185
Yeah. Then we don't want to

5550
03:12:59,522 --> 03:13:02,522
hear, you know. Move. Any

5551
03:13:02,759 --> 03:13:04,961
questions? Yeah. Yes, sir. If a

5552
03:13:04,961 --> 03:13:06,496
employee works on a holiday, it

5553
03:13:06,496 --> 03:13:07,897
will be double their pay. Is

5554
03:13:07,897 --> 03:13:09,632
that double their pay plus the

5555
03:13:09,632 --> 03:13:11,467
pay for that day. Is it triple?

5556
03:13:11,467 --> 03:13:12,869
No. They get. We just get an

5557
03:13:12,869 --> 03:13:15,371
extra day. They get double pay

5558
03:13:15,371 --> 03:13:18,971
if they work the holiday. Total.

5559
03:13:19,408 --> 03:13:20,543
Total. Gotcha. Okay. I just I'm

5560
03:13:20,543 --> 03:13:21,577
going to restate what I've

5561
03:13:21,577 --> 03:13:24,577
already stated, which is for

5562
03:13:26,516 --> 03:13:28,916
article 224 and and 33.3 just

5563
03:13:31,187 --> 03:13:32,221
to make sure that. This is for

5564
03:13:32,221 --> 03:13:34,621
this round of negotiations.

5565
03:13:42,799 --> 03:13:44,867
That is correct. Okay. Good. So

5566
03:13:44,867 --> 03:13:48,467
in other words, the other thing

5567
03:13:50,307 --> 03:13:52,442
is the Cola in 27 is zero. If

5568
03:13:52,442 --> 03:13:53,843
-4% of higher than 4%. In other

5569
03:13:53,843 --> 03:13:55,745
words, coal will be the Cola.

5570
03:13:55,745 --> 03:13:57,847
But the the the limits 4%. Is

5571
03:13:57,847 --> 03:14:00,847
that correct? That is correct.

5572
03:14:05,421 --> 03:14:09,210
Okay. Okay. All those in favor?

5573
03:14:09,359 --> 03:14:11,759
Aye. Opposed. Motion carries.

5574
03:14:13,363 --> 03:14:14,630
Thank you. The next item is a

5575
03:14:14,630 --> 03:14:15,632
resolution of the village

5576
03:14:15,632 --> 03:14:16,632
council of the village of Key

5577
03:14:16,632 --> 03:14:18,734
Biscayne, Florida, approving a

5578
03:14:18,734 --> 03:14:20,170
site plan for a stormwater pump

5579
03:14:20,170 --> 03:14:22,338
station and backup generator to

5580
03:14:22,338 --> 03:14:24,474
be located at the northwest

5581
03:14:24,474 --> 03:14:26,309
area of Beach Park. As further

5582
03:14:26,309 --> 03:14:27,410
identified in exhibit a,

5583
03:14:27,410 --> 03:14:28,844
providing for findings,

5584
03:14:28,844 --> 03:14:30,613
providing for recording and

5585
03:14:30,613 --> 03:14:33,613
providing for an effective date.

5586
03:14:36,520 --> 03:14:37,453
Move. Second. Thank you. Okay.

5587
03:14:37,453 --> 03:14:39,622
This is the second reading. The

5588
03:14:39,622 --> 03:14:41,858
first reading was JUNE of 2025

5589
03:14:41,858 --> 03:14:43,626
for this project. You've seen

5590
03:14:43,626 --> 03:14:45,361
it quite a few times. Go

5591
03:14:45,361 --> 03:14:47,761
through the presentation really

5592
03:14:47,864 --> 03:14:49,366
quickly. It's in the Garden

5593
03:14:49,366 --> 03:14:51,868
District. It's just outside of

5594
03:14:51,868 --> 03:14:53,669
Beach Park. It is kind of near

5595
03:14:53,669 --> 03:14:54,837
that Domino Plaza area. This is

5596
03:14:54,837 --> 03:14:57,837
more of the engineering style

5597
03:14:58,700 --> 03:15:00,510
view, but let me just jump to

5598
03:15:00,510 --> 03:15:01,911
the site plan. The above ground

5599
03:15:01,911 --> 03:15:04,480
portion is in blue. The below

5600
03:15:04,480 --> 03:15:05,481
ground is in pink. We would be

5601
03:15:05,481 --> 03:15:07,160
protecting the mature trees.

5602
03:15:07,160 --> 03:15:09,886
That grape tree, and I think

5603
03:15:09,886 --> 03:15:11,755
it's a black olive on the

5604
03:15:11,755 --> 03:15:13,890
northwest side. And there would

5605
03:15:13,890 --> 03:15:15,324
be an access road to maintain

5606
03:15:15,324 --> 03:15:17,459
the access we use for

5607
03:15:17,459 --> 03:15:19,629
Brightview and our landscapers

5608
03:15:19,629 --> 03:15:21,230
kind of through that area. And

5609
03:15:21,230 --> 03:15:22,498
they'll come in the same way

5610
03:15:22,498 --> 03:15:23,366
into Beach Park. This is for

5611
03:15:23,366 --> 03:15:24,533
the flooding that we

5612
03:15:24,533 --> 03:15:26,269
experienced in Garden District,

5613
03:15:26,269 --> 03:15:28,972
which I'm sure a lot of you

5614
03:15:28,972 --> 03:15:31,107
know, is persistent and

5615
03:15:31,107 --> 03:15:32,308
concentrated in this far east

5616
03:15:32,308 --> 03:15:34,143
area of the district. There's

5617
03:15:34,143 --> 03:15:35,811
going to be four wells, a pump

5618
03:15:35,811 --> 03:15:38,811
station and a backup generator

5619
03:15:39,816 --> 03:15:41,160
with the electrical platform.

5620
03:15:41,160 --> 03:15:43,520
I'll make a motion. We approve

5621
03:15:43,520 --> 03:15:44,120
the subject to removing the

5622
03:15:44,120 --> 03:15:45,588
generator. I don't think the

5623
03:15:45,588 --> 03:15:46,957
generator is necessary, MR.

5624
03:15:46,957 --> 03:15:48,691
Mayor. I recommend we go ahead

5625
03:15:48,691 --> 03:15:49,826
and put it out and make the

5626
03:15:49,826 --> 03:15:51,594
generator bid alternate, and we

5627
03:15:51,594 --> 03:15:52,795
can make the decision at the

5628
03:15:52,795 --> 03:15:54,530
time when it comes back. I'm

5629
03:15:54,530 --> 03:15:55,564
sorry. There was a motion.

5630
03:15:55,564 --> 03:15:56,799
Council member London made a

5631
03:15:56,799 --> 03:15:59,569
motion to remove the generator.

5632
03:15:59,569 --> 03:16:01,404
I accept Steve's amendment.

5633
03:16:01,404 --> 03:16:02,905
Okay, I second it. And the

5634
03:16:02,905 --> 03:16:04,240
amendment. I'm sorry. Yeah.

5635
03:16:04,240 --> 03:16:06,141
What was the amendment?

5636
03:16:06,141 --> 03:16:07,844
Decision on the generator? Make

5637
03:16:07,844 --> 03:16:09,279
the generator optional. Once we

5638
03:16:09,279 --> 03:16:11,679
received the contract. Yep.

5639
03:16:12,215 --> 03:16:13,582
Correct. And is there I don't

5640
03:16:13,582 --> 03:16:15,500
know whether the federal

5641
03:16:15,500 --> 03:16:16,518
government is going to make us

5642
03:16:16,518 --> 03:16:18,988
do it. So what I read said they

5643
03:16:18,988 --> 03:16:21,123
don't. Yeah. But they recommend

5644
03:16:21,123 --> 03:16:23,359
it. But then so is mandatory.

5645
03:16:23,359 --> 03:16:24,827
What. We don't want to do it

5646
03:16:24,827 --> 03:16:26,328
while they're still working on

5647
03:16:26,328 --> 03:16:27,730
the approval. So let's put it

5648
03:16:27,730 --> 03:16:29,332
out. Put it out for decision.

5649
03:16:29,332 --> 03:16:31,334
We're good. I agree with you.

5650
03:16:31,334 --> 03:16:33,236
Let's go. And also I want to be

5651
03:16:33,236 --> 03:16:34,337
a public hearing. Oh I have a

5652
03:16:34,337 --> 03:16:36,338
quick question though. If we if

5653
03:16:36,338 --> 03:16:37,473
we do that, which is fine with

5654
03:16:37,473 --> 03:16:39,242
me. Does that require us to

5655
03:16:39,242 --> 03:16:41,677
build the foundation for the

5656
03:16:41,677 --> 03:16:43,445
generator? Yes. I believe what

5657
03:16:43,445 --> 03:16:45,248
Steve's referring to is once

5658
03:16:45,248 --> 03:16:46,382
you get the contract right,

5659
03:16:46,382 --> 03:16:47,917
there is an alternate, then

5660
03:16:47,917 --> 03:16:49,319
that decision would be made. We

5661
03:16:49,319 --> 03:16:50,820
wouldn't accept a contract with

5662
03:16:50,820 --> 03:16:52,121
the alternate and then build

5663
03:16:52,121 --> 03:16:53,589
part of the infrastructure for

5664
03:16:53,589 --> 03:16:54,991
the generator, but not the rest.

5665
03:16:54,991 --> 03:16:58,591
You would make that decision in

5666
03:16:58,928 --> 03:17:00,763
advance. Okay. I'm talking

5667
03:17:00,763 --> 03:17:02,164
about a structural element here.

5668
03:17:02,164 --> 03:17:04,334
I'm talking about a foundation

5669
03:17:04,334 --> 03:17:06,903
that would have to be tied into

5670
03:17:06,903 --> 03:17:09,105
something and would have to

5671
03:17:09,105 --> 03:17:11,173
allow for room for it. So, I

5672
03:17:11,173 --> 03:17:12,975
mean, I'm fine. Don't get me

5673
03:17:12,975 --> 03:17:14,510
wrong. I'm fine with the idea

5674
03:17:14,510 --> 03:17:16,412
of not doing it or moving it,

5675
03:17:16,412 --> 03:17:17,446
pushing it. But I want to know

5676
03:17:17,446 --> 03:17:18,481
that if eventually that's

5677
03:17:18,481 --> 03:17:20,316
decided, what what does that

5678
03:17:20,316 --> 03:17:21,617
mean for the contractor and the

5679
03:17:21,617 --> 03:17:23,819
engineer and who's designing

5680
03:17:23,819 --> 03:17:25,200
this? So for and I want to

5681
03:17:25,200 --> 03:17:26,756
bring it back. So what we're

5682
03:17:26,756 --> 03:17:28,491
doing tonight is site plan

5683
03:17:28,491 --> 03:17:30,993
approval. Yes, sir. And so

5684
03:17:30,993 --> 03:17:32,495
anything that would have less

5685
03:17:32,495 --> 03:17:34,630
intensity, for instance, if we

5686
03:17:34,630 --> 03:17:35,298
took the generator out, which

5687
03:17:35,298 --> 03:17:36,466
is sort of the main concern

5688
03:17:36,466 --> 03:17:39,466
from our standpoint from from

5689
03:17:39,635 --> 03:17:41,470
an esthetic site plan approval

5690
03:17:41,470 --> 03:17:43,606
would be less intrusive. And we

5691
03:17:43,606 --> 03:17:45,941
the site plan would be in

5692
03:17:45,941 --> 03:17:47,577
effect. And the location of

5693
03:17:47,577 --> 03:17:48,978
that generator also, and the

5694
03:17:48,978 --> 03:17:51,378
where that foundation is

5695
03:17:51,514 --> 03:17:53,316
located doesn't impact the

5696
03:17:53,316 --> 03:17:55,716
underground component. So it's

5697
03:17:56,185 --> 03:17:57,453
like separate enough. But if we

5698
03:17:57,453 --> 03:17:58,721
didn't have the generator, we

5699
03:17:58,721 --> 03:17:59,822
wouldn't have to build the, the

5700
03:17:59,822 --> 03:18:01,623
whole structure for the

5701
03:18:01,623 --> 03:18:03,393
generator. That's where there's,

5702
03:18:03,393 --> 03:18:04,827
there's like the dunnage that

5703
03:18:04,827 --> 03:18:05,995
lifts up the generator. That's

5704
03:18:05,995 --> 03:18:07,300
correct. You wouldn't need the

5705
03:18:07,300 --> 03:18:09,430
foundation and you wouldn't

5706
03:18:09,565 --> 03:18:11,333
need the. So then that could be.

5707
03:18:11,333 --> 03:18:13,636
Then all that would be swept

5708
03:18:13,636 --> 03:18:15,271
out. All that would be right.

5709
03:18:15,271 --> 03:18:17,730
But tonight we're just doing

5710
03:18:17,730 --> 03:18:19,208
site plan approval, trying to

5711
03:18:19,208 --> 03:18:21,430
keep us focused. Yes. Keep us

5712
03:18:21,430 --> 03:18:22,846
focused. Got it. Man, we

5713
03:18:22,846 --> 03:18:24,247
recognize that Council Member

5714
03:18:24,247 --> 03:18:26,782
Vazquez and the bid alternate

5715
03:18:26,782 --> 03:18:28,584
will and will include that

5716
03:18:28,584 --> 03:18:30,520
being as an alternate the

5717
03:18:30,520 --> 03:18:31,487
structure that holds the

5718
03:18:31,487 --> 03:18:34,357
generator as well. Okay. Fair

5719
03:18:34,357 --> 03:18:37,393
enough. Thank you. Yeah. Just a

5720
03:18:37,393 --> 03:18:40,393
motion. Just. Is it consensus

5721
03:18:40,529 --> 03:18:42,999
of Council for. Yes. Yes.

5722
03:18:42,999 --> 03:18:45,168
London's final with Steve's.

5723
03:18:45,168 --> 03:18:46,569
Steve's alternate London slash

5724
03:18:46,569 --> 03:18:48,370
Williamson. I think there's two

5725
03:18:48,370 --> 03:18:50,730
things. One, you approve the

5726
03:18:50,730 --> 03:18:51,641
site plan. Two, you probably

5727
03:18:51,641 --> 03:18:53,109
need to give me guidance

5728
03:18:53,109 --> 03:18:55,611
separate from the site plan is

5729
03:18:55,611 --> 03:18:56,880
very strict. Site plan? Yes. No.

5730
03:18:56,880 --> 03:18:59,215
If you want to give me formal

5731
03:18:59,215 --> 03:19:01,830
guidance to do a contract with

5732
03:19:01,830 --> 03:19:02,985
a bid alternate, I believe that

5733
03:19:02,985 --> 03:19:05,388
would need to be a second. We

5734
03:19:05,388 --> 03:19:07,290
need to do a item. Yeah. I mean,

5735
03:19:07,290 --> 03:19:08,557
I think you have two items here.

5736
03:19:08,557 --> 03:19:10,326
You have approval of the site

5737
03:19:10,326 --> 03:19:11,427
plan, which is going to have

5738
03:19:11,427 --> 03:19:13,229
everything right. And then

5739
03:19:13,229 --> 03:19:15,165
there would be a separate

5740
03:19:15,165 --> 03:19:17,330
motion to direct. Steve. So we

5741
03:19:17,330 --> 03:19:18,300
made one motion to approve the

5742
03:19:18,300 --> 03:19:20,135
site plan. Now we need a second.

5743
03:19:20,135 --> 03:19:21,303
We need a public hearing first

5744
03:19:21,303 --> 03:19:23,306
if you're on the site plan.

5745
03:19:23,306 --> 03:19:25,107
Speaking of the site plan,

5746
03:19:25,107 --> 03:19:28,107
public hearing is now open.

5747
03:19:28,310 --> 03:19:30,546
Bret you're it. Okay. On the

5748
03:19:30,546 --> 03:19:33,546
site plan. Public hearing is

5749
03:19:36,252 --> 03:19:39,252
now closed. Thank. Thank you.

5750
03:19:39,489 --> 03:19:42,580
Just for the record, I you know,

5751
03:19:42,580 --> 03:19:43,559
this idea that we go

5752
03:19:43,559 --> 03:19:45,594
underground, we will never have

5753
03:19:45,594 --> 03:19:48,130
an outage. Ever. Never say

5754
03:19:48,130 --> 03:19:49,599
never, ever, never ever. We're

5755
03:19:49,599 --> 03:19:52,835
never going to have an outage.

5756
03:19:52,835 --> 03:19:55,400
Never, never, never. So never

5757
03:19:55,400 --> 03:19:57,473
say never. I, I, I'm just for

5758
03:19:57,473 --> 03:19:59,642
the record, you know, let let's

5759
03:19:59,642 --> 03:20:02,545
caution everyone that there MAY

5760
03:20:02,545 --> 03:20:03,679
be outages in the future. Yes.

5761
03:20:03,679 --> 03:20:05,581
Yeah, sure. Of course. But you

5762
03:20:05,581 --> 03:20:08,350
know this even though there's

5763
03:20:08,350 --> 03:20:10,820
no data or no one has proved

5764
03:20:10,820 --> 03:20:12,621
that that this is true. But we

5765
03:20:12,621 --> 03:20:14,490
keep regurgitating the same

5766
03:20:14,490 --> 03:20:16,258
thing. But anyway, the point is

5767
03:20:16,258 --> 03:20:17,326
to come back with an alternate.

5768
03:20:17,326 --> 03:20:19,194
Then we make a decision. The

5769
03:20:19,194 --> 03:20:21,630
fact that you agreed with Steve,

5770
03:20:21,630 --> 03:20:22,298
I mean, it's like, this is must

5771
03:20:22,298 --> 03:20:23,399
be a mistake, you know? Can you

5772
03:20:23,399 --> 03:20:25,301
withdraw that, please? It's

5773
03:20:25,301 --> 03:20:27,370
like a phased project. Okay.

5774
03:20:27,370 --> 03:20:28,838
All right. Let's keep going.

5775
03:20:28,838 --> 03:20:30,940
All right. No problem. I'm

5776
03:20:30,940 --> 03:20:32,475
sorry. Just for the minutes

5777
03:20:32,475 --> 03:20:35,475
afterwards, come back with an

5778
03:20:35,578 --> 03:20:37,413
alternative. What? Bids it out

5779
03:20:37,413 --> 03:20:39,810
with an option? Bids? Bids.

5780
03:20:39,810 --> 03:20:40,716
Bids it out with an option? Yes.

5781
03:20:40,716 --> 03:20:42,885
Just like we're doing on the on

5782
03:20:42,885 --> 03:20:45,421
the trash option generator. No

5783
03:20:45,421 --> 03:20:46,522
generator. Thank you. So

5784
03:20:46,522 --> 03:20:47,924
consensus of council for that

5785
03:20:47,924 --> 03:20:50,324
amendment. Good enough, MR.

5786
03:20:50,793 --> 03:20:52,628
Attorney. Yep. Okay. Okay. So

5787
03:20:52,628 --> 03:20:56,228
for ten c, as amended. All

5788
03:20:56,866 --> 03:20:59,866
those in favor? Aye. Opposed.

5789
03:21:01,270 --> 03:21:04,270
Motion carries. Ten. We're done.

5790
03:21:04,840 --> 03:21:06,776
What? No. Well, MR. Mayor, my

5791
03:21:06,776 --> 03:21:08,411
presence is required somewhere.

5792
03:21:08,411 --> 03:21:11,247
I'm going to excuse myself.

5793
03:21:11,247 --> 03:21:13,883
Okay. Have a good night, Frank.

5794
03:21:13,883 --> 03:21:16,883
You're still nine, Frank. In

5795
03:21:18,521 --> 03:21:21,521
the 11th. The village manager's

5796
03:21:22,910 --> 03:21:24,527
report is there. Oh, I have

5797
03:21:24,527 --> 03:21:26,763
something. You have something I

5798
03:21:26,763 --> 03:21:27,931
gotta look and see what's left.

5799
03:21:27,931 --> 03:21:29,298
Are you moving to mayor and

5800
03:21:29,298 --> 03:21:31,433
council members or the village

5801
03:21:31,433 --> 03:21:33,636
manager's report? I'm jumping

5802
03:21:33,636 --> 03:21:35,871
to mayor and council members to

5803
03:21:35,871 --> 03:21:38,730
see. Okay, status of improving

5804
03:21:38,730 --> 03:21:40,476
our website to facilitate ease

5805
03:21:40,476 --> 03:21:41,844
of searches for documents and

5806
03:21:41,844 --> 03:21:43,844
information. Council member

5807
03:21:44,413 --> 03:21:45,581
stoner, your item just. I don't

5808
03:21:45,581 --> 03:21:47,416
have my paperwork in front of

5809
03:21:47,416 --> 03:21:49,819
me. Just I just wanted to

5810
03:21:49,819 --> 03:21:51,253
report that we're working on it.

5811
03:21:51,253 --> 03:21:53,455
There's. Is that Jessica? There

5812
03:21:53,455 --> 03:21:54,690
she is that Jessica? Yes it is.

5813
03:21:54,690 --> 03:21:57,600
Okay. You can come up and speak

5814
03:21:57,600 --> 03:21:58,461
to that, if you wouldn't mind.

5815
03:21:58,461 --> 03:21:59,929
Oh, I found your notes here,

5816
03:21:59,929 --> 03:22:01,697
but you're better at that than

5817
03:22:01,697 --> 03:22:03,866
me. Good evening, Jessica. Good

5818
03:22:03,866 --> 03:22:05,702
evening. So we're looking into

5819
03:22:05,702 --> 03:22:07,470
different ai bots that could

5820
03:22:07,470 --> 03:22:08,571
help us with the search. We we

5821
03:22:08,571 --> 03:22:10,706
recognize that the search

5822
03:22:10,706 --> 03:22:13,208
capability on the website is

5823
03:22:13,208 --> 03:22:15,440
less than terrible. And

5824
03:22:15,440 --> 03:22:16,145
hopefully with all the new ai

5825
03:22:16,145 --> 03:22:18,113
technology that we have, we

5826
03:22:18,113 --> 03:22:19,315
just want to make sure we find

5827
03:22:19,315 --> 03:22:21,183
the right fit and that it fits

5828
03:22:21,183 --> 03:22:22,284
all the protocols and laws that

5829
03:22:22,284 --> 03:22:24,186
that exist. There's a bunch of

5830
03:22:24,186 --> 03:22:25,321
them out there and they keep

5831
03:22:25,321 --> 03:22:27,189
calling us. So we're picking

5832
03:22:27,189 --> 03:22:29,125
and choosing and looking at all

5833
03:22:29,125 --> 03:22:31,193
of that. And we're also going

5834
03:22:31,193 --> 03:22:32,562
to do a test run with our

5835
03:22:32,562 --> 03:22:33,730
vendor that's for our website

5836
03:22:33,730 --> 03:22:36,265
right now. And they'll give us

5837
03:22:36,265 --> 03:22:39,265
an opportunity to learn what

5838
03:22:39,869 --> 03:22:42,371
options are out there. And

5839
03:22:42,371 --> 03:22:45,971
while you're there, can we also,

5840
03:22:48,110 --> 03:22:49,450
MR. Mayor, do number three? Yes.

5841
03:22:49,450 --> 03:22:50,847
Establishment and maintenance

5842
03:22:50,847 --> 03:22:52,447
of a section of the village

5843
03:22:52,447 --> 03:22:54,617
website for disability and

5844
03:22:54,617 --> 03:22:57,170
inclusion services and programs.

5845
03:22:57,153 --> 03:22:59,221
Council member stoner Jessica,

5846
03:22:59,221 --> 03:23:00,723
would you we launched a new

5847
03:23:00,723 --> 03:23:01,790
page on the website that's for

5848
03:23:01,790 --> 03:23:03,226
accessibility. And the idea is

5849
03:23:03,226 --> 03:23:04,226
to put all the different

5850
03:23:04,226 --> 03:23:05,795
offerings that we have

5851
03:23:05,795 --> 03:23:07,196
specifically to Key Biscayne.

5852
03:23:07,196 --> 03:23:09,398
One of the goals of the website

5853
03:23:09,398 --> 03:23:11,166
is we try to keep things as Key

5854
03:23:11,166 --> 03:23:12,969
Biscayne centric as possible.

5855
03:23:12,969 --> 03:23:14,700
So not putting every

5856
03:23:14,700 --> 03:23:16,700
organization, every company

5857
03:23:16,205 --> 03:23:18,340
that exists, county or state

5858
03:23:18,340 --> 03:23:19,508
wide or countrywide because we

5859
03:23:19,508 --> 03:23:20,542
want to keep it very key

5860
03:23:20,542 --> 03:23:22,545
Biscayne centric. But we do

5861
03:23:22,545 --> 03:23:24,480
offer a lot here, and we wanted

5862
03:23:24,480 --> 03:23:26,416
it all in one place. And if you

5863
03:23:26,416 --> 03:23:27,616
want to go and look for it,

5864
03:23:27,616 --> 03:23:29,352
it's on the footer of every

5865
03:23:29,352 --> 03:23:30,352
single page, the very bottom,

5866
03:23:30,352 --> 03:23:31,353
you'll see the word

5867
03:23:31,353 --> 03:23:33,753
accessibility. And it's also

5868
03:23:33,923 --> 03:23:34,523
Key

5869
03:23:34,523 --> 03:23:35,291
biscayne.Fl.Gov/accessibility.

5870
03:23:35,291 --> 03:23:37,459
And you'll get right there.

5871
03:23:37,459 --> 03:23:38,561
It's great. You've made great

5872
03:23:38,561 --> 03:23:40,462
progress in that. There's still

5873
03:23:40,462 --> 03:23:41,797
a couple of issues I just want

5874
03:23:41,797 --> 03:23:43,466
to ask you about keeping it Key

5875
03:23:43,466 --> 03:23:45,100
Biscayne only. Is that just a

5876
03:23:45,100 --> 03:23:46,435
policy that that we have in

5877
03:23:46,435 --> 03:23:47,737
general about the website? It's

5878
03:23:47,737 --> 03:23:49,705
not a hard policy. There are a

5879
03:23:49,705 --> 03:23:51,808
few pages, but we get a lot. I

5880
03:23:51,808 --> 03:23:53,309
mean, Jocelyn can attest to

5881
03:23:53,309 --> 03:23:55,444
this. We get a lot of emails

5882
03:23:55,444 --> 03:23:56,979
from rehab kind of facilities

5883
03:23:56,979 --> 03:23:58,647
and things, and it makes it

5884
03:23:58,647 --> 03:24:00,116
easier to explain why we can't

5885
03:24:00,116 --> 03:24:02,751
put every single thing out

5886
03:24:02,751 --> 03:24:04,687
there. If we have a system, it

5887
03:24:04,687 --> 03:24:06,220
it also is hard to say, well,

5888
03:24:06,220 --> 03:24:07,790
we put it on our website, but

5889
03:24:07,790 --> 03:24:09,692
it's not here. We don't have

5890
03:24:09,692 --> 03:24:10,893
any access to it. We don't have

5891
03:24:10,893 --> 03:24:12,595
any way of getting you there.

5892
03:24:12,595 --> 03:24:15,595
But, you know, we're promoting

5893
03:24:15,998 --> 03:24:20,798
it in a way. Right? So is there

5894
03:24:21,690 --> 03:24:22,710
would it be okay if you put

5895
03:24:22,710 --> 03:24:24,940
things that were not Key

5896
03:24:24,940 --> 03:24:27,142
Biscayne centric, that the

5897
03:24:27,142 --> 03:24:29,542
disability board felt were

5898
03:24:29,712 --> 03:24:32,712
important enough to make people

5899
03:24:33,515 --> 03:24:34,683
aware of? I think if it was at

5900
03:24:34,683 --> 03:24:36,151
their recommendation, let's say

5901
03:24:36,151 --> 03:24:37,686
a soft yes, like it depends,

5902
03:24:37,686 --> 03:24:39,689
you know, it would depend on

5903
03:24:39,689 --> 03:24:40,756
what it is. And I think one of

5904
03:24:40,756 --> 03:24:42,258
the things that's important to

5905
03:24:42,258 --> 03:24:44,126
council member is there's a lot

5906
03:24:44,126 --> 03:24:46,620
of people doing this. And so

5907
03:24:46,620 --> 03:24:47,960
we're going to have to have a

5908
03:24:47,960 --> 03:24:48,264
clear vetting process. And I

5909
03:24:48,264 --> 03:24:50,232
think the answer is, yes, we

5910
03:24:50,232 --> 03:24:52,134
can do it, but we're going to

5911
03:24:52,134 --> 03:24:53,269
have to have a process to vet

5912
03:24:53,269 --> 03:24:54,369
it. Okay. So what do you

5913
03:24:54,369 --> 03:24:56,238
recommend? Do you recommend

5914
03:24:56,238 --> 03:24:58,140
that the I don't know what that

5915
03:24:58,140 --> 03:24:59,274
would be, but I think we, you

5916
03:24:59,274 --> 03:25:01,176
know, we've got to be very

5917
03:25:01,176 --> 03:25:02,277
careful what we put out there

5918
03:25:02,277 --> 03:25:04,470
because a lot of people are

5919
03:25:04,470 --> 03:25:05,214
coming out with these programs.

5920
03:25:05,214 --> 03:25:06,282
And, and maybe that is the

5921
03:25:06,282 --> 03:25:07,449
Disability Advisory board, but

5922
03:25:07,449 --> 03:25:09,151
it's not something that Jessica

5923
03:25:09,151 --> 03:25:11,530
could pick and say, oh, no, I

5924
03:25:11,530 --> 03:25:12,188
understand. But when I go back

5925
03:25:12,188 --> 03:25:13,322
to the disability board, should

5926
03:25:13,322 --> 03:25:16,922
I tell them, speak with you,

5927
03:25:17,259 --> 03:25:18,660
speak with Juan. Speak with,

5928
03:25:18,660 --> 03:25:20,429
give their suggestion, give

5929
03:25:20,429 --> 03:25:21,831
their suggestions, and then

5930
03:25:21,831 --> 03:25:23,660
speak with Jessica. And then

5931
03:25:23,660 --> 03:25:24,600
Juan and I will we'll talk

5932
03:25:24,600 --> 03:25:25,701
through it. Look, we're going

5933
03:25:25,701 --> 03:25:26,803
to take, you know, in most

5934
03:25:26,803 --> 03:25:28,571
cases, we're going to take

5935
03:25:28,571 --> 03:25:29,739
their advice. You know, they

5936
03:25:29,739 --> 03:25:31,641
they know this better than we.

5937
03:25:31,641 --> 03:25:32,908
But we'll also take a look at

5938
03:25:32,908 --> 03:25:34,677
it to make. Okay, great. Thank

5939
03:25:34,677 --> 03:25:35,644
you. This is, you know, we're

5940
03:25:35,644 --> 03:25:36,712
we're entering into new

5941
03:25:36,712 --> 03:25:38,581
frontiers. We don't want to

5942
03:25:38,581 --> 03:25:39,782
send people in places that we

5943
03:25:39,782 --> 03:25:41,584
don't want to send people. And

5944
03:25:41,584 --> 03:25:42,718
number five, I think we pulled

5945
03:25:42,718 --> 03:25:44,587
that, didn't we? Yes. You had

5946
03:25:44,587 --> 03:25:46,688
deferred that. So the next item

5947
03:25:46,688 --> 03:25:48,491
would be Council meeting agenda

5948
03:25:48,491 --> 03:25:49,725
order. Council member Bracken.

5949
03:25:49,725 --> 03:25:51,327
Yeah. Just quickly I've been

5950
03:25:51,327 --> 03:25:53,195
working with Steve to come up

5951
03:25:53,195 --> 03:25:54,596
with a what, what we basically

5952
03:25:54,596 --> 03:25:56,996
call an operational chart.

5953
03:25:57,566 --> 03:25:59,702
Steve, to move forward. Where

5954
03:25:59,702 --> 03:26:02,538
are we on that chart? It's

5955
03:26:02,538 --> 03:26:04,306
actually in your packet. Okay.

5956
03:26:04,306 --> 03:26:07,306
Item number one in the

5957
03:26:09,846 --> 03:26:12,246
manager's report at 1717. The

5958
03:26:18,721 --> 03:26:19,822
other tab 17. Oh. Oh exhibit a,

5959
03:26:19,822 --> 03:26:21,290
this is fully comprehensive.

5960
03:26:21,290 --> 03:26:23,759
Obviously, we can modify it in

5961
03:26:23,759 --> 03:26:27,359
a way that works best. Exhibit

5962
03:26:28,831 --> 03:26:30,232
a look at the today's agenda.

5963
03:26:30,232 --> 03:26:32,168
So the idea with this was to

5964
03:26:32,168 --> 03:26:34,904
get this up in front, to keep

5965
03:26:34,904 --> 03:26:37,440
the community and the council

5966
03:26:37,440 --> 03:26:39,541
just where we are on status of

5967
03:26:39,541 --> 03:26:40,643
of projects. And I think this

5968
03:26:40,643 --> 03:26:41,777
is something that we could

5969
03:26:41,777 --> 03:26:43,579
review in the front of our

5970
03:26:43,579 --> 03:26:45,348
meeting to basically let the

5971
03:26:45,348 --> 03:26:46,816
community know where we are.

5972
03:26:46,816 --> 03:26:48,784
And I think this would be a

5973
03:26:48,784 --> 03:26:50,520
good idea to move this to the

5974
03:26:50,520 --> 03:26:52,187
front of the meeting versus to

5975
03:26:52,187 --> 03:26:53,956
the tail end, because it also

5976
03:26:53,956 --> 03:26:55,240
reminds us of all the projects

5977
03:26:55,240 --> 03:26:56,526
that we're currently working on,

5978
03:26:56,526 --> 03:26:58,661
keeping the community informed.

5979
03:26:58,661 --> 03:27:00,496
So if we could move this to the

5980
03:27:00,496 --> 03:27:02,631
front of the meeting. I'm sorry.

5981
03:27:02,631 --> 03:27:04,600
What? What's it look like? This.

5982
03:27:04,600 --> 03:27:05,902
This chart should be shown. Yes.

5983
03:27:05,902 --> 03:27:08,700
This chart should be shown

5984
03:27:08,700 --> 03:27:09,905
every meeting at the the first

5985
03:27:09,905 --> 03:27:10,939
basically the first start right

5986
03:27:10,939 --> 03:27:13,750
before public comment. Before.

5987
03:27:13,750 --> 03:27:14,910
Before. Before. Right after.

5988
03:27:14,910 --> 03:27:17,310
Public comment. Before. Consent.

5989
03:27:17,413 --> 03:27:18,848
Before consent agenda. Yes. The

5990
03:27:18,848 --> 03:27:22,417
exhibit e, is that what you're

5991
03:27:22,417 --> 03:27:24,520
exhibit a, exhibit a 17. Yeah.

5992
03:27:24,520 --> 03:27:25,321
So in this. Oh, can I ask a

5993
03:27:25,321 --> 03:27:27,321
question? Yeah, absolutely.

5994
03:27:28,924 --> 03:27:30,920
This is when this comes up,

5995
03:27:30,920 --> 03:27:32,127
what I've been trying to do and

5996
03:27:32,127 --> 03:27:33,996
what I would do if we had this

5997
03:27:33,996 --> 03:27:35,398
is highlight what I brought up

5998
03:27:35,398 --> 03:27:37,199
at the last meeting or two

5999
03:27:37,199 --> 03:27:39,502
meetings ago where we are with

6000
03:27:39,502 --> 03:27:41,303
it. And so we don't have to go

6001
03:27:41,303 --> 03:27:42,371
through the, you know, the

6002
03:27:42,371 --> 03:27:43,705
entire thing we kind of

6003
03:27:43,705 --> 03:27:45,141
highlight. That's a really good

6004
03:27:45,141 --> 03:27:48,430
point. That's the that's the

6005
03:27:48,430 --> 03:27:51,580
intent. Nancy. I think that's a

6006
03:27:51,580 --> 03:27:53,480
great idea. So so this, this is

6007
03:27:53,480 --> 03:27:55,480
operationally focused. This

6008
03:27:56,986 --> 03:27:59,986
isn't necessarily going back on

6009
03:28:01,723 --> 03:28:03,959
council action items, right? I

6010
03:28:03,959 --> 03:28:05,294
mean, we, I mean, we, we take

6011
03:28:05,294 --> 03:28:06,729
your directives and come back

6012
03:28:06,729 --> 03:28:08,964
with them. I mean, that's

6013
03:28:08,964 --> 03:28:11,433
usually you'll usually see that

6014
03:28:11,433 --> 03:28:12,267
if we haven't spoken with you

6015
03:28:12,267 --> 03:28:13,569
individually, you'll usually

6016
03:28:13,569 --> 03:28:14,670
see that as part of the

6017
03:28:14,670 --> 03:28:16,805
manager's report. Like, you

6018
03:28:16,805 --> 03:28:19,742
know, you know, many times your

6019
03:28:19,742 --> 03:28:20,609
items that are on council

6020
03:28:20,609 --> 03:28:21,644
members comments are actually

6021
03:28:21,644 --> 03:28:23,445
in the manager's report. So,

6022
03:28:23,445 --> 03:28:25,448
you know, we, we take those

6023
03:28:25,448 --> 03:28:27,316
directives seriously and we add

6024
03:28:27,316 --> 03:28:28,918
those to the manager report. So

6025
03:28:28,918 --> 03:28:30,852
I guess the question is, is

6026
03:28:30,852 --> 03:28:32,354
this a follow up on the

6027
03:28:32,354 --> 03:28:35,925
directives or is this an update

6028
03:28:35,925 --> 03:28:38,325
on operational progress? Well,

6029
03:28:39,127 --> 03:28:40,362
go ahead. Is walk me through.

6030
03:28:40,362 --> 03:28:42,131
So because this is going to be

6031
03:28:42,131 --> 03:28:43,565
repetitive. Right, right. To a

6032
03:28:43,565 --> 03:28:45,267
certain extent. Right. So walk

6033
03:28:45,267 --> 03:28:46,869
me through what happens. We we

6034
03:28:46,869 --> 03:28:48,704
just finished public comments.

6035
03:28:48,704 --> 03:28:50,639
And now this is up on the

6036
03:28:50,639 --> 03:28:52,441
screen. Right. What's next? I

6037
03:28:52,441 --> 03:28:54,243
guess, I guess the intention is

6038
03:28:54,243 --> 03:28:56,745
to have a status report of

6039
03:28:56,745 --> 03:28:58,480
where we are on projects. Okay.

6040
03:28:58,480 --> 03:29:00,480
So fundamentally where we are

6041
03:29:00,480 --> 03:29:01,483
on a project, you'd agree that

6042
03:29:01,483 --> 03:29:02,885
month to month, there's not a

6043
03:29:02,885 --> 03:29:04,553
lot of change on many of these.

6044
03:29:04,553 --> 03:29:06,455
That's correct. So it should it

6045
03:29:06,455 --> 03:29:08,290
should be, you know, I would

6046
03:29:08,290 --> 03:29:09,758
only a real highlight.

6047
03:29:09,758 --> 03:29:10,793
Something's changed or

6048
03:29:10,793 --> 03:29:12,728
something changed. Yes. Okay.

6049
03:29:12,728 --> 03:29:14,430
So that we we set, we set that.

6050
03:29:14,430 --> 03:29:15,631
So we're aware. Okay. And that

6051
03:29:15,631 --> 03:29:17,299
the community is aware. Okay.

6052
03:29:17,299 --> 03:29:18,734
So if you're talking about

6053
03:29:18,734 --> 03:29:19,868
highlighting what there's a

6054
03:29:19,868 --> 03:29:22,437
change or something we have to

6055
03:29:22,437 --> 03:29:24,173
look at, or do we then show the

6056
03:29:24,173 --> 03:29:26,108
whole thing or do we just show

6057
03:29:26,108 --> 03:29:27,476
the ones that there is? I mean,

6058
03:29:27,476 --> 03:29:28,611
there's a material change where

6059
03:29:28,611 --> 03:29:30,212
there's a material change. I

6060
03:29:30,212 --> 03:29:31,347
think we should see a color

6061
03:29:31,347 --> 03:29:32,548
code issues, problems not

6062
03:29:32,548 --> 03:29:33,883
started, for example, issues

6063
03:29:33,883 --> 03:29:35,550
and problems. Correct. This

6064
03:29:35,550 --> 03:29:36,785
might be too detailed. It might

6065
03:29:36,785 --> 03:29:38,554
be it might be too detailed.

6066
03:29:38,554 --> 03:29:39,788
This was I mean, people are

6067
03:29:39,788 --> 03:29:41,791
asking me and I'm sure they're

6068
03:29:41,791 --> 03:29:42,925
asking you, are we

6069
03:29:42,925 --> 03:29:44,660
undergrounding zone eight? Are

6070
03:29:44,660 --> 03:29:46,462
we as undergrounding zone one?

6071
03:29:46,462 --> 03:29:48,664
So where are we? Are we

6072
03:29:48,664 --> 03:29:51,500
approved? So you kind of need

6073
03:29:51,500 --> 03:29:52,968
just that. So this is the idea

6074
03:29:52,968 --> 03:29:54,804
here was to start this

6075
03:29:54,804 --> 03:29:56,538
discussion. Okay. To get to

6076
03:29:56,538 --> 03:29:58,730
come up with some format that

6077
03:29:58,730 --> 03:30:00,142
Steve could help work on that

6078
03:30:00,142 --> 03:30:01,978
we could deliver. Okay. And I,

6079
03:30:01,978 --> 03:30:02,978
I wasn't expecting, I wasn't

6080
03:30:02,978 --> 03:30:05,348
expecting to have the solution

6081
03:30:05,348 --> 03:30:06,982
tonight. Okay. I was expecting

6082
03:30:06,982 --> 03:30:08,217
to have feedback from you guys

6083
03:30:08,217 --> 03:30:10,850
so that we could all come up.

6084
03:30:10,850 --> 03:30:11,186
And there MAY be things that

6085
03:30:11,186 --> 03:30:12,388
Benjamin wants to put on this

6086
03:30:12,388 --> 03:30:14,523
list. Okay. Financial stuff,

6087
03:30:14,523 --> 03:30:16,392
but where we are. So it's the

6088
03:30:16,392 --> 03:30:18,894
idea is to is to have a, for

6089
03:30:18,894 --> 03:30:20,362
all intents and purposes, a

6090
03:30:20,362 --> 03:30:22,832
roadmap for where we are going

6091
03:30:22,832 --> 03:30:24,233
and what we're doing. Okay, so

6092
03:30:24,233 --> 03:30:27,502
I might see value in something

6093
03:30:27,502 --> 03:30:28,970
like this with less detail

6094
03:30:28,970 --> 03:30:30,606
bulleted, but then focusing on

6095
03:30:30,606 --> 03:30:32,908
the things you feel that you

6096
03:30:32,908 --> 03:30:34,309
need our attention, a change,

6097
03:30:34,309 --> 03:30:37,245
an issue, a problem. You have a

6098
03:30:37,245 --> 03:30:39,315
color coding already here, but

6099
03:30:39,315 --> 03:30:41,316
to see this month to month to

6100
03:30:41,316 --> 03:30:42,318
month to me is going to be a

6101
03:30:42,318 --> 03:30:43,318
lot of repetition. And

6102
03:30:43,318 --> 03:30:44,753
eventually what will happen?

6103
03:30:44,753 --> 03:30:46,555
It'll just lose all of our

6104
03:30:46,555 --> 03:30:49,910
interest. Is it? Isn't this so?

6105
03:30:49,910 --> 03:30:52,328
I want it to mean something. Is

6106
03:30:52,328 --> 03:30:54,563
this for us or is this for the

6107
03:30:54,563 --> 03:30:55,931
public to understand the the

6108
03:30:55,931 --> 03:30:58,467
progress that we're making is

6109
03:30:58,467 --> 03:30:59,735
both, okay. It's I mean, it's

6110
03:30:59,735 --> 03:31:00,802
also a certain amount of

6111
03:31:00,802 --> 03:31:02,710
holding ourselves accountable

6112
03:31:02,710 --> 03:31:03,539
and, and administration

6113
03:31:03,539 --> 03:31:04,707
accountable and also giving the

6114
03:31:04,707 --> 03:31:06,141
community sort of an update

6115
03:31:06,141 --> 03:31:08,541
like what's happening. Okay,

6116
03:31:08,544 --> 03:31:10,145
you know, where are we on zone

6117
03:31:10,145 --> 03:31:11,613
one undergrounding? Where are

6118
03:31:11,613 --> 03:31:12,748
we on zone eight underground?

6119
03:31:12,748 --> 03:31:15,748
Where, where, you know, what's

6120
03:31:16,180 --> 03:31:17,753
the status? Okay, quickly so

6121
03:31:17,753 --> 03:31:18,988
that we can get that out in

6122
03:31:18,988 --> 03:31:20,689
front of the community. Right?

6123
03:31:20,689 --> 03:31:21,790
And maybe this goes into the

6124
03:31:21,790 --> 03:31:22,958
newspaper, you know, I don't

6125
03:31:22,958 --> 03:31:24,693
not sure. It's just, you know,

6126
03:31:24,693 --> 03:31:25,827
something that's out there. I

6127
03:31:25,827 --> 03:31:26,962
mean, Joe writes these great.

6128
03:31:26,962 --> 03:31:27,897
How about how about quarterly

6129
03:31:27,897 --> 03:31:29,698
as opposed to monthly?

6130
03:31:29,698 --> 03:31:30,799
Quarterly is fine. I mean, it

6131
03:31:30,799 --> 03:31:32,501
just I just think it's

6132
03:31:32,501 --> 03:31:34,337
important to have some working

6133
03:31:34,337 --> 03:31:36,539
agenda. That's an upfront that

6134
03:31:36,539 --> 03:31:38,139
we review every meeting. I

6135
03:31:38,139 --> 03:31:39,341
think it's a great idea. And I

6136
03:31:39,341 --> 03:31:41,176
think that one of the things

6137
03:31:41,176 --> 03:31:42,411
you would see is if there's a

6138
03:31:42,411 --> 03:31:44,146
change that month, you'd have

6139
03:31:44,146 --> 03:31:45,181
the whole thing and then river

6140
03:31:45,181 --> 03:31:46,349
change that month being a

6141
03:31:46,349 --> 03:31:47,416
different color or highlighted

6142
03:31:47,416 --> 03:31:49,485
or something. So you know where

6143
03:31:49,485 --> 03:31:50,919
we're going, right? What are

6144
03:31:50,919 --> 03:31:53,919
you interpreting? What are you

6145
03:31:54,924 --> 03:31:56,580
hearing, Steve? Well, confusion.

6146
03:31:56,580 --> 03:31:58,194
No, no, I'm not hearing

6147
03:31:58,194 --> 03:31:59,461
confusion. No, I, you know,

6148
03:31:59,461 --> 03:32:01,329
there's a lot of things on here

6149
03:32:01,329 --> 03:32:03,265
and purposely a lot of things

6150
03:32:03,265 --> 03:32:05,334
on here. I, you know, I, I, you

6151
03:32:05,334 --> 03:32:08,170
know, I wanted to again

6152
03:32:08,170 --> 03:32:09,705
instigate the conversation.

6153
03:32:09,705 --> 03:32:11,374
Obviously this will take a long

6154
03:32:11,374 --> 03:32:12,875
time and we don't want to do

6155
03:32:12,875 --> 03:32:15,770
this highlights, you know,

6156
03:32:15,770 --> 03:32:17,179
updates we could we could do. I

6157
03:32:17,179 --> 03:32:18,280
did also hear some other folks

6158
03:32:18,280 --> 03:32:19,715
mentioning that they would like

6159
03:32:19,715 --> 03:32:21,617
updates on the directives as

6160
03:32:21,617 --> 03:32:23,418
well. We do try to do that in

6161
03:32:23,418 --> 03:32:24,619
the manager's report. I don't

6162
03:32:24,619 --> 03:32:26,421
know whether we want a separate

6163
03:32:26,421 --> 03:32:28,230
report on that. So I'm trying

6164
03:32:28,230 --> 03:32:29,724
to get exactly we're not

6165
03:32:29,724 --> 03:32:31,259
getting exactly the first time,

6166
03:32:31,259 --> 03:32:32,895
but trying to get closer to

6167
03:32:32,895 --> 03:32:34,530
what it is that we're looking

6168
03:32:34,530 --> 03:32:35,965
for. The problem with the meant

6169
03:32:35,965 --> 03:32:37,466
doing not including the

6170
03:32:37,466 --> 03:32:39,534
manager's report on here is

6171
03:32:39,534 --> 03:32:40,702
that no one's here now, and the

6172
03:32:40,702 --> 03:32:42,537
manager's report is at the end.

6173
03:32:42,537 --> 03:32:43,739
Well, that's why he's asking to

6174
03:32:43,739 --> 03:32:45,540
do this upfront. But that's why

6175
03:32:45,540 --> 03:32:46,675
I'm saying, you know, to make

6176
03:32:46,675 --> 03:32:47,843
sure to include some of the

6177
03:32:47,843 --> 03:32:49,110
manager's the important action

6178
03:32:49,110 --> 03:32:52,110
items in the manager's report

6179
03:32:52,381 --> 03:32:53,949
in here. Right. Many of them

6180
03:32:53,949 --> 03:32:56,452
are okay. Many of them are. I

6181
03:32:56,452 --> 03:32:57,853
mean, not not to the level of

6182
03:32:57,853 --> 03:32:58,987
the updating of the code of

6183
03:32:58,987 --> 03:33:00,755
conduct. That's that's not in

6184
03:33:00,755 --> 03:33:02,224
here, but just, I would say

6185
03:33:02,224 --> 03:33:03,959
probably 80% of what's in the

6186
03:33:03,959 --> 03:33:06,959
manager's report is in here.

6187
03:33:08,363 --> 03:33:11,200
Okay. To some degree. Okay. Are

6188
03:33:11,200 --> 03:33:11,901
we are we working towards

6189
03:33:11,901 --> 03:33:13,669
understanding what we're we're

6190
03:33:13,669 --> 03:33:16,238
trying to do guys feel like

6191
03:33:16,238 --> 03:33:18,440
this helpful or not helpful?

6192
03:33:18,440 --> 03:33:20,910
Helpful. But I, I think we need

6193
03:33:20,910 --> 03:33:23,450
a couple of trial balloons.

6194
03:33:23,450 --> 03:33:24,480
Absolutely. So we've got it all

6195
03:33:24,480 --> 03:33:26,480
here and now it's bringing it

6196
03:33:26,480 --> 03:33:28,116
down and tightening it up. Yeah.

6197
03:33:28,116 --> 03:33:30,252
And so, and what I'm, what I'm

6198
03:33:30,252 --> 03:33:32,121
hearing is for sure issues.

6199
03:33:32,121 --> 03:33:33,990
Okay. Flag. And we don't have a

6200
03:33:33,990 --> 03:33:36,859
problem with moving it up into

6201
03:33:36,859 --> 03:33:38,761
the agenda. No. As long as it's

6202
03:33:38,761 --> 03:33:40,363
not the way it is now. Concise.

6203
03:33:40,363 --> 03:33:43,165
Right, right. All right. So so

6204
03:33:43,165 --> 03:33:46,680
that, you know, I don't know,

6205
03:33:46,680 --> 03:33:49,271
Steve, is it ten items or is it

6206
03:33:49,271 --> 03:33:50,473
15 items? I mean, look, that's

6207
03:33:50,473 --> 03:33:52,407
a good question. I mean, a lot

6208
03:33:52,407 --> 03:33:54,242
of the times they're set up for

6209
03:33:54,242 --> 03:33:55,410
the decisions that you all are

6210
03:33:55,410 --> 03:33:57,245
going to have to make in a

6211
03:33:57,245 --> 03:33:58,480
couple of months. So that's

6212
03:33:58,480 --> 03:34:00,850
some of what this is. It's it's

6213
03:34:00,850 --> 03:34:02,985
teeing things up in one way.

6214
03:34:02,985 --> 03:34:05,120
It's also, you know, letting

6215
03:34:05,120 --> 03:34:06,955
the community know that it's

6216
03:34:06,955 --> 03:34:08,190
coming up as well. So maybe

6217
03:34:08,190 --> 03:34:10,590
it's something that's occurring

6218
03:34:12,394 --> 03:34:14,196
in the next 2 to 4 months. The

6219
03:34:14,196 --> 03:34:15,998
good thing about it is because

6220
03:34:15,998 --> 03:34:17,833
we get the agenda, we can

6221
03:34:17,833 --> 03:34:18,900
advance Council can highlight

6222
03:34:18,900 --> 03:34:20,350
whatever they would like to

6223
03:34:20,350 --> 03:34:21,370
bring up for discussion.

6224
03:34:21,370 --> 03:34:23,572
Meanwhile, the whole public has

6225
03:34:23,572 --> 03:34:25,741
it, but just not for discussion.

6226
03:34:25,741 --> 03:34:27,142
But to note this happened. That

6227
03:34:27,142 --> 03:34:28,911
happened. We made this move.

6228
03:34:28,911 --> 03:34:30,112
Yeah. Without having to go.

6229
03:34:30,112 --> 03:34:32,470
Yeah. You know, item by item. I

6230
03:34:32,470 --> 03:34:33,615
think it also to your point,

6231
03:34:33,615 --> 03:34:35,784
before it facilitates our

6232
03:34:35,784 --> 03:34:37,553
ability to inform residents

6233
03:34:37,553 --> 03:34:40,122
which of which we are out there

6234
03:34:40,122 --> 03:34:41,523
in, in, in the neighborhood

6235
03:34:41,523 --> 03:34:42,958
talking about these things. And

6236
03:34:42,958 --> 03:34:44,493
the question does come up,

6237
03:34:44,493 --> 03:34:45,594
what's going on with the trees?

6238
03:34:45,594 --> 03:34:47,429
What's going on with the, you

6239
03:34:47,429 --> 03:34:48,597
know, the jungle gym here in

6240
03:34:48,597 --> 03:34:50,365
the pool, the conflict, at

6241
03:34:50,365 --> 03:34:51,633
least I think I hear the

6242
03:34:51,633 --> 03:34:53,402
conflict in your voices is how

6243
03:34:53,402 --> 03:34:55,570
much, right, right. How much

6244
03:34:55,570 --> 03:34:57,600
and, and what gets flagged.

6245
03:34:57,600 --> 03:34:58,173
Right, right. So remember

6246
03:34:58,173 --> 03:34:59,608
though, there's seven of you in

6247
03:34:59,608 --> 03:35:01,176
this, probably every single one

6248
03:35:01,176 --> 03:35:03,120
of these in one way or another.

6249
03:35:03,120 --> 03:35:04,246
You guys have asked me probably

6250
03:35:04,246 --> 03:35:05,714
in the last two weeks. Right.

6251
03:35:05,714 --> 03:35:08,184
So that's where the conflict.

6252
03:35:08,184 --> 03:35:09,352
The other part is procedurally

6253
03:35:09,352 --> 03:35:11,286
remember, you know, we have to

6254
03:35:11,286 --> 03:35:12,621
make sure we do the business at

6255
03:35:12,621 --> 03:35:15,423
the council meeting. So we'd

6256
03:35:15,423 --> 03:35:17,159
have to really narrow in on

6257
03:35:17,159 --> 03:35:20,759
what we would want to present

6258
03:35:21,129 --> 03:35:22,898
up front. Well, yes, the, the,

6259
03:35:22,898 --> 03:35:25,670
the person running the meeting

6260
03:35:25,670 --> 03:35:28,337
has to say you're going off

6261
03:35:28,337 --> 03:35:30,138
tangent and you, you're, you've

6262
03:35:30,138 --> 03:35:32,538
got, you know, you're

6263
03:35:32,641 --> 03:35:35,410
discussing stuff that important,

6264
03:35:35,577 --> 03:35:37,120
but still not coming up yet.

6265
03:35:37,120 --> 03:35:38,814
Right. And look, and that's

6266
03:35:38,814 --> 03:35:40,616
something. You mean at the

6267
03:35:40,616 --> 03:35:42,170
meeting. Yeah. Yeah. I think I

6268
03:35:42,170 --> 03:35:43,151
don't even think we should go

6269
03:35:43,151 --> 03:35:46,656
through. We should say here it

6270
03:35:46,656 --> 03:35:48,123
is. And somebody if you have a

6271
03:35:48,123 --> 03:35:50,659
real problem, you. Well, some

6272
03:35:50,659 --> 03:35:51,693
even there's even a you there's

6273
03:35:51,693 --> 03:35:54,930
sections that say decision

6274
03:35:55,630 --> 03:35:57,199
needed, for example, or, or, or

6275
03:35:57,199 --> 03:35:59,340
an issue. Right. Needed isn't

6276
03:35:59,340 --> 03:36:00,903
isn't isn't that weak. No, no.

6277
03:36:00,903 --> 03:36:02,537
I understand at some point.

6278
03:36:02,537 --> 03:36:04,773
Yeah. But we're already but we

6279
03:36:04,773 --> 03:36:06,274
have a top of mind or doing our

6280
03:36:06,274 --> 03:36:08,109
to do our homework to be able

6281
03:36:08,109 --> 03:36:09,244
to give the decision when it's

6282
03:36:09,244 --> 03:36:10,378
time to make it or ask

6283
03:36:10,378 --> 03:36:12,614
questions or ask questions.

6284
03:36:12,614 --> 03:36:14,783
Correct. So it's a flag

6285
03:36:14,783 --> 03:36:16,919
decision, decision or decision

6286
03:36:16,919 --> 03:36:18,754
requested or directive needed,

6287
03:36:18,754 --> 03:36:20,522
right. The info only now is

6288
03:36:20,522 --> 03:36:22,230
just an update. It's just look,

6289
03:36:22,230 --> 03:36:23,910
it's it's going. So maybe we.

6290
03:36:23,910 --> 03:36:23,992
And that's going to be

6291
03:36:23,992 --> 03:36:25,727
repetitive month over month.

6292
03:36:25,727 --> 03:36:26,762
Maybe we just focus on the

6293
03:36:26,762 --> 03:36:28,300
decision needed items. Well,

6294
03:36:28,300 --> 03:36:29,131
there was another one he

6295
03:36:29,131 --> 03:36:30,999
mentioned just now directives

6296
03:36:30,999 --> 03:36:32,767
directive same thing. Direction

6297
03:36:32,767 --> 03:36:33,568
requested okay. Direction

6298
03:36:33,568 --> 03:36:35,204
requested. Or those are the

6299
03:36:35,204 --> 03:36:37,806
ones that we need to be

6300
03:36:37,806 --> 03:36:38,607
focusing on. Yeah. Okay. It

6301
03:36:38,607 --> 03:36:40,308
also gives us foresight of

6302
03:36:40,308 --> 03:36:41,443
what's coming that's in the

6303
03:36:41,443 --> 03:36:42,844
agenda before we even get the

6304
03:36:42,844 --> 03:36:44,313
agenda. That's the intention

6305
03:36:44,313 --> 03:36:46,314
and how we want to prioritize

6306
03:36:46,314 --> 03:36:47,316
it. But I do like that you have

6307
03:36:47,316 --> 03:36:48,583
prioritized as well, because

6308
03:36:48,583 --> 03:36:50,319
that is also the ones that tell

6309
03:36:50,319 --> 03:36:51,453
you status though, too. You

6310
03:36:51,453 --> 03:36:52,954
know, I think going back to

6311
03:36:52,954 --> 03:36:54,489
what Nancy said about the

6312
03:36:54,489 --> 03:36:55,957
status of zone eight, yeah, I

6313
03:36:55,957 --> 03:36:58,957
would imagine that is probably

6314
03:36:59,940 --> 03:37:00,495
an info. I think it's

6315
03:37:00,495 --> 03:37:01,797
underground. Well, there's the

6316
03:37:01,797 --> 03:37:02,798
underground zone eight. It says

6317
03:37:02,798 --> 03:37:04,990
decision needed. Okay. Probably.

6318
03:37:04,990 --> 03:37:05,834
Yeah. Because we we need to go

6319
03:37:05,834 --> 03:37:08,237
forward to it, you know, to

6320
03:37:08,237 --> 03:37:09,305
approve the a a t t contract.

6321
03:37:09,305 --> 03:37:10,939
Yes. Right. Yeah. So that's,

6322
03:37:10,939 --> 03:37:12,741
that's a decision that's needed.

6323
03:37:12,741 --> 03:37:14,900
Okay. I think that's a great

6324
03:37:14,900 --> 03:37:16,912
idea. And I think everyone's

6325
03:37:16,912 --> 03:37:17,646
going to get a lot out of that.

6326
03:37:17,646 --> 03:37:19,214
Yeah. Well done Mike. I mean

6327
03:37:19,214 --> 03:37:21,382
and Steve and Steve and Mike.

6328
03:37:21,382 --> 03:37:22,584
Brett, since you're here and

6329
03:37:22,584 --> 03:37:23,886
you're going to be the future

6330
03:37:23,886 --> 03:37:25,387
mayor, you got any comments

6331
03:37:25,387 --> 03:37:26,455
about this? Because this is

6332
03:37:26,455 --> 03:37:28,924
something that the intention is

6333
03:37:28,924 --> 03:37:33,124
to help to sit down. Okay, cool.

6334
03:37:33,795 --> 03:37:36,165
Thank you. Is there a decision

6335
03:37:36,165 --> 03:37:37,633
made? I just wanted direction.

6336
03:37:37,633 --> 03:37:38,700
Was it were you all just

6337
03:37:38,700 --> 03:37:40,168
discussing it now? We're still

6338
03:37:40,168 --> 03:37:42,437
just having a discussion. It's

6339
03:37:42,437 --> 03:37:44,339
the first iteration. We think

6340
03:37:44,339 --> 03:37:45,474
it's too much and it needs to

6341
03:37:45,474 --> 03:37:47,275
be tightened up a bit. And

6342
03:37:47,275 --> 03:37:48,477
decision is continue to refine.

6343
03:37:48,477 --> 03:37:49,444
Yeah. Yes, we feel comfortable

6344
03:37:49,444 --> 03:37:50,578
with that direction. Yes. You

6345
03:37:50,578 --> 03:37:51,981
need more detail. No you're

6346
03:37:51,981 --> 03:37:53,382
good. All right. Councilmember

6347
03:37:53,382 --> 03:37:54,483
Bracket and I will sit down.

6348
03:37:54,483 --> 03:37:56,318
Thank you. Thanks, Steve, for

6349
03:37:56,318 --> 03:37:59,918
your yeah. That's a great job.

6350
03:38:01,357 --> 03:38:03,559
Yeah. If if we adopted Mister

6351
03:38:03,559 --> 03:38:06,762
Attorney, do we have to change

6352
03:38:06,762 --> 03:38:09,465
some something in our regs? I

6353
03:38:09,465 --> 03:38:10,799
need to check the resolution

6354
03:38:10,799 --> 03:38:12,535
for the council procedures, but

6355
03:38:12,535 --> 03:38:15,370
I think we might be able to

6356
03:38:15,370 --> 03:38:17,105
just add it. Yeah, but I'll

6357
03:38:17,105 --> 03:38:18,306
confirm that. The clerk could

6358
03:38:18,306 --> 03:38:20,108
also ask if it would be by

6359
03:38:20,108 --> 03:38:23,108
ordinance, if anything would be

6360
03:38:25,447 --> 03:38:27,649
by resolution. So. Sounds good.

6361
03:38:27,649 --> 03:38:29,417
Anything else? Just just so

6362
03:38:29,417 --> 03:38:31,686
we're clear on the schedule,

6363
03:38:31,686 --> 03:38:33,722
the rra council workshop is

6364
03:38:33,722 --> 03:38:35,991
going to get changed to most

6365
03:38:35,991 --> 03:38:37,593
likely to that site. The site

6366
03:38:37,593 --> 03:38:38,760
plan for. Well, we'll have to

6367
03:38:38,760 --> 03:38:40,596
change. That's a long meeting.

6368
03:38:40,596 --> 03:38:41,763
Both of them are going to be

6369
03:38:41,763 --> 03:38:43,765
long meetings. So let the mayor

6370
03:38:43,765 --> 03:38:45,600
and I kind of sit down do it on

6371
03:38:45,600 --> 03:38:46,601
separate days, figure out. Yeah,

6372
03:38:46,601 --> 03:38:47,603
because we have resilient

6373
03:38:47,603 --> 03:38:49,572
Infrastructure program and the

6374
03:38:49,572 --> 03:38:51,600
Zork, both of those meetings by

6375
03:38:51,600 --> 03:38:52,141
themselves are going to be are

6376
03:38:52,141 --> 03:38:54,430
those topics are going to be

6377
03:38:54,430 --> 03:38:56,411
pretty large. We can't do that

6378
03:38:56,411 --> 03:38:59,140
on top of a workshop. I'm just

6379
03:38:59,140 --> 03:39:01,830
I'm out of town from 28 to the

6380
03:39:01,830 --> 03:39:02,918
to the seventh to the sixth. So

6381
03:39:02,918 --> 03:39:04,486
I, I, I'm here for the budget

6382
03:39:04,486 --> 03:39:05,554
meeting. I'm just here for the

6383
03:39:05,554 --> 03:39:06,821
budget meeting. No, well, we

6384
03:39:06,821 --> 03:39:08,656
just went on vacation for two

6385
03:39:08,656 --> 03:39:09,758
weeks. I can't go on vacation.

6386
03:39:09,758 --> 03:39:11,493
He's the mayor. No, we weren't

6387
03:39:11,493 --> 03:39:14,163
meeting Mike. You've been here

6388
03:39:14,163 --> 03:39:16,164
for two weeks, Mike. Like, just

6389
03:39:16,164 --> 03:39:17,265
I mean, we're not talking about

6390
03:39:17,265 --> 03:39:18,400
doing anything before the 10th

6391
03:39:18,400 --> 03:39:20,268
anyway. Well, it will be after

6392
03:39:20,268 --> 03:39:21,369
the 10th. Okay, good. I'm fine.

6393
03:39:21,369 --> 03:39:23,438
Yeah, we're. Yeah, we wouldn't

6394
03:39:23,438 --> 03:39:26,341
be ready until the 10th. So

6395
03:39:26,341 --> 03:39:27,476
it'll be after the 10th. Okay.

6396
03:39:27,476 --> 03:39:29,912
Anything for the good of the

6397
03:39:29,912 --> 03:39:31,346
order? Only of the village

6398
03:39:31,346 --> 03:39:34,346
manager's report. If you had

6399
03:39:35,717 --> 03:39:37,152
anything, any of your 30. I

6400
03:39:37,152 --> 03:39:38,787
think each one we've met with

6401
03:39:38,787 --> 03:39:39,955
you about what we are with

6402
03:39:39,955 --> 03:39:42,955
street light status. Just a

6403
03:39:43,392 --> 03:39:46,127
real quick update. So we have

6404
03:39:46,127 --> 03:39:48,263
now identified that there are

6405
03:39:48,263 --> 03:39:50,432
175 plus or minus lights in the

6406
03:39:50,432 --> 03:39:53,268
Special Taxing district. We own

6407
03:39:53,268 --> 03:39:55,268
approximately 245 lights

6408
03:39:55,470 --> 03:39:56,672
ourselves, and the photometric

6409
03:39:56,672 --> 03:39:59,374
study that came out says we

6410
03:39:59,374 --> 03:40:01,374
need approximately 550 new

6411
03:40:02,100 --> 03:40:03,812
lights. Our original plan was

6412
03:40:03,812 --> 03:40:05,180
to move forward with special

6413
03:40:05,180 --> 03:40:07,716
taxing district and our lights,

6414
03:40:07,716 --> 03:40:09,518
and to transfer them to fpl.

6415
03:40:09,518 --> 03:40:10,852
With that many lights that are

6416
03:40:10,852 --> 03:40:11,987
short, we think we want to

6417
03:40:11,987 --> 03:40:13,788
switch. And this is where I

6418
03:40:13,788 --> 03:40:16,325
need your direction. Switch to

6419
03:40:16,325 --> 03:40:18,260
moving forward on the shortfall,

6420
03:40:18,260 --> 03:40:19,261
putting them ahead of the other

6421
03:40:19,261 --> 03:40:20,662
in transfer, because we'll

6422
03:40:20,662 --> 03:40:23,131
actually be moving to put more

6423
03:40:23,131 --> 03:40:24,966
lights in. That number is still

6424
03:40:24,966 --> 03:40:28,566
a work in progress. And it

6425
03:40:28,937 --> 03:40:30,739
really comes down to how much

6426
03:40:30,739 --> 03:40:32,507
coverage we actually want,

6427
03:40:32,507 --> 03:40:34,676
because we all know in the

6428
03:40:34,676 --> 03:40:36,645
northwest corner of the village,

6429
03:40:36,645 --> 03:40:38,614
there are no lights. At the

6430
03:40:38,614 --> 03:40:41,516
same time there. There are

6431
03:40:41,516 --> 03:40:44,385
roads that have two lights that

6432
03:40:44,385 --> 03:40:45,887
might need three lights. And so

6433
03:40:45,887 --> 03:40:47,756
I don't know whether we want to

6434
03:40:47,756 --> 03:40:49,458
get to that level of detail

6435
03:40:49,458 --> 03:40:50,292
that it looks like it was

6436
03:40:50,292 --> 03:40:51,893
purposely left, that we didn't

6437
03:40:51,893 --> 03:40:52,994
put too many lights in the

6438
03:40:52,994 --> 03:40:54,830
village because we, you know,

6439
03:40:54,830 --> 03:40:58,660
at the same time, they looked

6440
03:40:58,660 --> 03:40:59,501
at it from a safety perspective.

6441
03:40:59,501 --> 03:41:01,136
So that's something that we

6442
03:41:01,136 --> 03:41:02,304
want to bring back. We don't

6443
03:41:02,304 --> 03:41:03,338
need to make that decision

6444
03:41:03,338 --> 03:41:05,240
tonight. But what I need from

6445
03:41:05,240 --> 03:41:07,776
you all is direction to if we

6446
03:41:07,776 --> 03:41:08,911
want to move forward on the

6447
03:41:08,911 --> 03:41:11,311
report, not the replacement.

6448
03:41:11,780 --> 03:41:13,982
Excuse me. New lights, new

6449
03:41:13,982 --> 03:41:15,517
lights in hot spots. Yes. And

6450
03:41:15,517 --> 03:41:17,152
and well and gaps. Right where

6451
03:41:17,152 --> 03:41:18,987
we're missing lights. Yes. In

6452
03:41:18,987 --> 03:41:20,355
dark areas. I don't understand

6453
03:41:20,355 --> 03:41:21,556
you. Go ahead. I'm talking. I

6454
03:41:21,556 --> 03:41:22,924
just I just also want to

6455
03:41:22,924 --> 03:41:24,250
understand the financial

6456
03:41:24,250 --> 03:41:26,425
ramifications. So are we

6457
03:41:26,962 --> 03:41:28,630
talking about $4 million, $5

6458
03:41:28,630 --> 03:41:30,132
million, $6 million? What are

6459
03:41:30,132 --> 03:41:32,634
we talking about as far as

6460
03:41:32,634 --> 03:41:33,969
expense to proceed with this

6461
03:41:33,969 --> 03:41:35,300
thought? You actually got there

6462
03:41:35,300 --> 03:41:36,305
very closely. Yeah, because I

6463
03:41:36,305 --> 03:41:38,407
thought that's the number. So

6464
03:41:38,407 --> 03:41:39,208
it is. So right now look, the

6465
03:41:39,208 --> 03:41:41,608
numbers are approximate. I

6466
03:41:41,643 --> 03:41:43,178
think it's actually 546. Sorry.

6467
03:41:43,178 --> 03:41:45,247
That's for the gap 500 for the

6468
03:41:45,247 --> 03:41:46,447
gap. Correct. But that's,

6469
03:41:46,447 --> 03:41:48,884
that's basing it on whether or

6470
03:41:48,884 --> 03:41:50,285
not we agree that 500 is the

6471
03:41:50,285 --> 03:41:52,120
true gap. To your point.

6472
03:41:52,120 --> 03:41:53,221
There's a gap maybe

6473
03:41:53,221 --> 03:41:55,324
intentionally up until today. I

6474
03:41:55,324 --> 03:41:56,458
do believe it's smart to start

6475
03:41:56,458 --> 03:41:57,893
with the gap because that's

6476
03:41:57,893 --> 03:41:59,661
where we're missing lights. I

6477
03:41:59,661 --> 03:42:00,929
don't know if we need 500. I

6478
03:42:00,929 --> 03:42:02,564
think that could seriously

6479
03:42:02,564 --> 03:42:04,320
change the entire fabric of the

6480
03:42:04,320 --> 03:42:05,367
island. And I think the intent

6481
03:42:05,367 --> 03:42:06,535
of having that gap might have

6482
03:42:06,535 --> 03:42:08,935
been intentional from the

6483
03:42:09,404 --> 03:42:11,506
beginning. So if the number for

6484
03:42:11,506 --> 03:42:13,410
500 is 6 million, let's say,

6485
03:42:13,410 --> 03:42:14,976
can we start with the gap and

6486
03:42:14,976 --> 03:42:16,178
then see where we go there and

6487
03:42:16,178 --> 03:42:18,460
continue to see? Yes. And look,

6488
03:42:18,460 --> 03:42:19,447
and this was, you know, we got

6489
03:42:19,447 --> 03:42:21,160
the presentation last Thursday.

6490
03:42:21,160 --> 03:42:22,951
And what they gave us was what

6491
03:42:22,951 --> 03:42:24,119
we asked them, what is our gap?

6492
03:42:24,119 --> 03:42:26,288
What is our shortfall? What do

6493
03:42:26,288 --> 03:42:28,823
we need to meet streetlight

6494
03:42:28,823 --> 03:42:30,959
compliance. And that came up to

6495
03:42:30,959 --> 03:42:33,959
546. Now if we want to

6496
03:42:34,229 --> 03:42:36,310
compliance standard streetlight

6497
03:42:36,310 --> 03:42:37,298
planning, you know, we don't

6498
03:42:37,298 --> 03:42:38,600
necessarily have to follow. No

6499
03:42:38,600 --> 03:42:40,502
we don't. There's no law that

6500
03:42:40,502 --> 03:42:41,603
says we have to do it. It's

6501
03:42:41,603 --> 03:42:42,771
just, you know, they went

6502
03:42:42,771 --> 03:42:43,839
through in the entire village

6503
03:42:43,839 --> 03:42:45,573
did, did the measurements of

6504
03:42:45,573 --> 03:42:46,708
our lights, you know, and the

6505
03:42:46,708 --> 03:42:48,677
coverage and said, if you were

6506
03:42:48,677 --> 03:42:50,778
to have full coverage, you need

6507
03:42:50,778 --> 03:42:54,378
546 lights. Chris, can I ask a

6508
03:42:54,683 --> 03:42:57,218
question, please? Do we have an

6509
03:42:57,218 --> 03:42:59,754
example of a street that's

6510
03:42:59,754 --> 03:43:00,922
compliant? Yes, yes we do. The

6511
03:43:00,922 --> 03:43:02,991
metrics that we're taking would

6512
03:43:02,991 --> 03:43:04,920
show us streets that are

6513
03:43:04,920 --> 03:43:05,994
compliant, and where there are

6514
03:43:05,994 --> 03:43:07,329
the shortfalls and the areas

6515
03:43:07,329 --> 03:43:08,263
that we don't have any street

6516
03:43:08,263 --> 03:43:09,531
lights whatsoever. Could you

6517
03:43:09,531 --> 03:43:11,266
tell us what street that is?

6518
03:43:11,266 --> 03:43:12,334
Sorry. Yeah, I'd have to go

6519
03:43:12,334 --> 03:43:13,469
back and look in the

6520
03:43:13,469 --> 03:43:15,370
presentation at the metrics to

6521
03:43:15,370 --> 03:43:17,206
see. So just if I threw out

6522
03:43:17,206 --> 03:43:18,873
some street names with just so

6523
03:43:18,873 --> 03:43:21,873
is Island Drive, for example,

6524
03:43:22,111 --> 03:43:23,879
compliant Island Drive, give me

6525
03:43:23,879 --> 03:43:26,381
one second. We can start with

6526
03:43:26,381 --> 03:43:28,550
you. Okay. I think it's a late

6527
03:43:28,550 --> 03:43:30,452
night. We have a really

6528
03:43:30,452 --> 03:43:32,452
impressive photometric study

6529
03:43:33,622 --> 03:43:35,623
that you can zoom in, zoom out,

6530
03:43:35,623 --> 03:43:36,758
where you can look at it from a

6531
03:43:36,758 --> 03:43:38,626
macro level where you can see

6532
03:43:38,626 --> 03:43:39,761
where the gaps are okay, or,

6533
03:43:39,761 --> 03:43:40,762
and also where the

6534
03:43:40,762 --> 03:43:42,264
concentrations are. And then

6535
03:43:42,264 --> 03:43:43,898
you can literally zoom in on a,

6536
03:43:43,898 --> 03:43:45,767
on a street. Did the work we

6537
03:43:45,767 --> 03:43:47,369
did on it. Is that compliant,

6538
03:43:47,369 --> 03:43:49,400
for example, that was the most

6539
03:43:49,400 --> 03:43:50,906
it does not work. We did well,

6540
03:43:50,906 --> 03:43:52,674
no, it does not meet the lumens

6541
03:43:52,674 --> 03:43:54,142
of the full standard. Okay,

6542
03:43:54,142 --> 03:43:55,543
okay. But we did that on

6543
03:43:55,543 --> 03:43:56,678
purpose. If you recall, the

6544
03:43:56,678 --> 03:43:58,113
height of the lights were

6545
03:43:58,113 --> 03:43:59,882
actually at people's windows.

6546
03:43:59,882 --> 03:44:01,316
And so we, I remember toned it

6547
03:44:01,316 --> 03:44:02,484
down some. So those are the

6548
03:44:02,484 --> 03:44:04,319
sort of decisions we can make.

6549
03:44:04,319 --> 03:44:06,354
The reason why I'm asking the

6550
03:44:06,354 --> 03:44:07,589
question is that is that Oscar

6551
03:44:07,589 --> 03:44:09,357
pointed out the fact that there

6552
03:44:09,357 --> 03:44:10,758
might be some intention to make

6553
03:44:10,758 --> 03:44:12,627
the lights lower. So if we have

6554
03:44:12,627 --> 03:44:14,629
a if we have a street that we

6555
03:44:14,629 --> 03:44:16,970
know that was in somewhat

6556
03:44:16,970 --> 03:44:17,198
compliance, we could say, okay,

6557
03:44:17,198 --> 03:44:18,935
does this meet? This is what

6558
03:44:18,935 --> 03:44:20,690
does this meet the. What does

6559
03:44:20,690 --> 03:44:21,870
this. First off, this is a

6560
03:44:21,870 --> 03:44:23,605
compliance meet. And then does

6561
03:44:23,605 --> 03:44:25,730
this actually meet the standard

6562
03:44:25,730 --> 03:44:26,908
that we're intending to have?

6563
03:44:26,908 --> 03:44:28,843
Right. So because we MAY not

6564
03:44:28,843 --> 03:44:30,879
need to be at the extreme level,

6565
03:44:30,879 --> 03:44:32,280
we MAY be a happy medium

6566
03:44:32,280 --> 03:44:34,449
between. So that MAY be go for

6567
03:44:34,449 --> 03:44:36,151
500 lights to 300 lights. I'm

6568
03:44:36,151 --> 03:44:37,185
just throwing numbers out. We

6569
03:44:37,185 --> 03:44:39,554
have that information. What I

6570
03:44:39,554 --> 03:44:41,489
can do is send it to you, and

6571
03:44:41,489 --> 03:44:42,491
then we can have a follow up

6572
03:44:42,491 --> 03:44:43,559
conversation at the next

6573
03:44:43,559 --> 03:44:45,494
council meeting to figure out

6574
03:44:45,494 --> 03:44:46,562
how to pay for them. All the

6575
03:44:46,562 --> 03:44:47,763
answers you're asking for are

6576
03:44:47,763 --> 03:44:49,264
in there. Okay. Right. So we're

6577
03:44:49,264 --> 03:44:50,498
just talking theoretically. I

6578
03:44:50,498 --> 03:44:51,666
have a question. And generally

6579
03:44:51,666 --> 03:44:54,235
speaking, just to let you know,

6580
03:44:54,235 --> 03:44:56,138
Council member 546 lights cost

6581
03:44:56,138 --> 03:44:58,138
approximately $750,000 over a

6582
03:44:59,774 --> 03:45:02,244
ten year period financed, which

6583
03:45:02,244 --> 03:45:03,578
is how fpl does their work. Yes,

6584
03:45:03,578 --> 03:45:05,413
they amortize it over a ten

6585
03:45:05,413 --> 03:45:06,581
year period. Okay. I don't I

6586
03:45:06,581 --> 03:45:10,181
just want to make sure I

6587
03:45:10,385 --> 03:45:12,988
understand here on your on your

6588
03:45:12,988 --> 03:45:15,988
paragraph three, toward the end,

6589
03:45:16,591 --> 03:45:17,993
there is the next steps. It's

6590
03:45:17,993 --> 03:45:20,529
you're going to coordinate with

6591
03:45:20,529 --> 03:45:21,963
fpl and Miami-Dade and complete

6592
03:45:21,963 --> 03:45:23,431
the analysis and advance

6593
03:45:23,431 --> 03:45:25,431
necessary transfer agreements.

6594
03:45:27,835 --> 03:45:29,538
What transfer agreements? So we

6595
03:45:29,538 --> 03:45:31,406
have the three buckets that I

6596
03:45:31,406 --> 03:45:32,608
mentioned before, the 107. We

6597
03:45:32,608 --> 03:45:33,842
won't even tell how many there

6598
03:45:33,842 --> 03:45:36,100
are. The special taxing

6599
03:45:36,100 --> 03:45:37,746
district. We have lights and

6600
03:45:37,746 --> 03:45:40,449
then there's a gap. So we just

6601
03:45:40,449 --> 03:45:42,551
talked about the gap. So what

6602
03:45:42,551 --> 03:45:44,285
we are intending to do is take

6603
03:45:44,285 --> 03:45:47,122
the 175 out of the special

6604
03:45:47,122 --> 03:45:48,223
taxing districts, our 240

6605
03:45:48,223 --> 03:45:50,623
transfer, and then transfer

6606
03:45:50,792 --> 03:45:52,961
them to fpl. Is that ownership

6607
03:45:52,961 --> 03:45:54,729
of the lights? Yes. Ownership.

6608
03:45:54,729 --> 03:45:55,798
Agree on that. No. Don't ever

6609
03:45:55,798 --> 03:45:57,199
remember agreeing that that

6610
03:45:57,199 --> 03:45:59,101
that that is what we're working

6611
03:45:59,101 --> 03:46:00,202
on to bring it to you. That's a

6612
03:46:00,202 --> 03:46:01,269
potential plan. Okay. That's

6613
03:46:01,269 --> 03:46:02,404
what I'm saying. We're still

6614
03:46:02,404 --> 03:46:03,371
doing the financial analysis,

6615
03:46:03,371 --> 03:46:04,806
whether it makes sense. They

6616
03:46:04,806 --> 03:46:06,975
were actually taking inventory,

6617
03:46:06,975 --> 03:46:08,343
right? Yeah. For for inventory.

6618
03:46:08,343 --> 03:46:10,178
Okay. Find out what's what.

6619
03:46:10,178 --> 03:46:11,279
Okay. Because when I read

6620
03:46:11,279 --> 03:46:12,814
advance the necessary

6621
03:46:12,814 --> 03:46:14,716
agreements, I'm trying. Why are

6622
03:46:14,716 --> 03:46:16,752
we doing that when we have when

6623
03:46:16,752 --> 03:46:17,919
we have one of them is to bring

6624
03:46:17,919 --> 03:46:19,722
bring it to you. Okay. Which

6625
03:46:19,722 --> 03:46:23,158
would be the consent, the well,

6626
03:46:23,158 --> 03:46:24,593
the intent to what's it called?

6627
03:46:24,593 --> 03:46:26,610
Transfer, whatever it's called.

6628
03:46:26,610 --> 03:46:27,496
It's some letter of intent.

6629
03:46:27,496 --> 03:46:28,763
Letter of intent. Okay. That

6630
03:46:28,763 --> 03:46:29,765
would go to the special taxing

6631
03:46:29,765 --> 03:46:30,866
districts that would start the

6632
03:46:30,866 --> 03:46:32,900
process. Okay, perfect. Thank

6633
03:46:32,900 --> 03:46:37,500
you. One of the things I want

6634
03:46:37,500 --> 03:46:38,673
to make clear is, I think it

6635
03:46:38,673 --> 03:46:40,742
was in JUNE that you all gave

6636
03:46:40,742 --> 03:46:42,544
us a directive to start

6637
03:46:42,544 --> 03:46:45,380
enforcing the swales and sight

6638
03:46:45,380 --> 03:46:48,980
lines on the 1st of SEPTEMBER.

6639
03:46:49,840 --> 03:46:52,840
Is that still your guidance?

6640
03:46:52,286 --> 03:46:55,190
Yes. How do we feel about the

6641
03:46:55,190 --> 03:46:56,625
education so far? Well, you saw

6642
03:46:56,625 --> 03:46:58,793
Steve Powell bring up his

6643
03:46:58,793 --> 03:46:59,861
education. I. I think they've

6644
03:46:59,861 --> 03:47:00,996
been pretty well educated.

6645
03:47:00,996 --> 03:47:02,130
Jeremy, do you want to add

6646
03:47:02,130 --> 03:47:03,865
anything to that? What was

6647
03:47:03,865 --> 03:47:05,330
Steve complaining about? He was

6648
03:47:05,330 --> 03:47:06,868
because he knows he's going to

6649
03:47:06,868 --> 03:47:08,200
let him know three times. I

6650
03:47:08,200 --> 03:47:09,604
think he's coming after anybody

6651
03:47:09,604 --> 03:47:11,406
that where we've seen continued

6652
03:47:11,406 --> 03:47:13,575
issues, we repost, repost,

6653
03:47:13,575 --> 03:47:15,711
repost the the and have

6654
03:47:15,711 --> 03:47:17,179
actually gone and encircled or

6655
03:47:17,179 --> 03:47:19,179
highlighted the particular

6656
03:47:19,280 --> 03:47:21,216
element of the code that is an

6657
03:47:21,216 --> 03:47:23,218
issue. So Jeremy, he came to me

6658
03:47:23,218 --> 03:47:24,386
and just and I might have made

6659
03:47:24,386 --> 03:47:26,288
the mistake, so I'm going to

6660
03:47:26,288 --> 03:47:27,522
put it on the record. Okay? He

6661
03:47:27,522 --> 03:47:29,324
said, if I take those little

6662
03:47:29,324 --> 03:47:30,491
plastic poles and I move them,

6663
03:47:30,491 --> 03:47:33,940
I told them, move three feet

6664
03:47:33,940 --> 03:47:35,197
from the road, okay. And that

6665
03:47:35,197 --> 03:47:36,965
would be okay. Now that's

6666
03:47:36,965 --> 03:47:38,400
probably that is incorrect

6667
03:47:38,400 --> 03:47:41,400
information at this time. That

6668
03:47:41,669 --> 03:47:43,105
is what we had decided to deal

6669
03:47:43,105 --> 03:47:45,240
with and enforce right of way

6670
03:47:45,240 --> 03:47:47,109
was any vertical obstruction,

6671
03:47:47,109 --> 03:47:49,611
right. So that we've been doing

6672
03:47:49,611 --> 03:47:51,120
all summer, right, including in

6673
03:47:51,120 --> 03:47:53,247
some cases, just moving the

6674
03:47:53,247 --> 03:47:56,247
sticks for people. What would

6675
03:47:56,385 --> 03:47:58,553
be coming next would be no

6676
03:47:58,553 --> 03:48:00,210
plastic poles allowed at all.

6677
03:48:00,210 --> 03:48:01,890
Right. So he what he's

6678
03:48:01,890 --> 03:48:03,258
expressing now is the fact that

6679
03:48:03,258 --> 03:48:04,693
he's getting noticed for these

6680
03:48:04,693 --> 03:48:06,895
plastic poles, because the

6681
03:48:06,895 --> 03:48:08,229
plastic poles are we're not

6682
03:48:08,229 --> 03:48:09,764
doing notice of violation or

6683
03:48:09,764 --> 03:48:11,933
anything yet, but they will get

6684
03:48:11,933 --> 03:48:13,568
a warning. It's been education,

6685
03:48:13,568 --> 03:48:14,736
by the way, you have these. You

6686
03:48:14,736 --> 03:48:16,705
can't have them very soon. Can

6687
03:48:16,705 --> 03:48:19,574
I ask you a question, if I MAY?

6688
03:48:19,574 --> 03:48:21,476
I mean, please, the the there

6689
03:48:21,476 --> 03:48:23,450
is also a damage by vehicles. I

6690
03:48:23,450 --> 03:48:25,280
mean, I've seen the pictures

6691
03:48:25,280 --> 03:48:27,382
here. They I don't know if you

6692
03:48:27,382 --> 03:48:29,884
can see it, but they create. I

6693
03:48:29,884 --> 03:48:32,520
know of it. I know of it. Yeah.

6694
03:48:32,520 --> 03:48:33,788
So the plastic poles to a

6695
03:48:33,788 --> 03:48:36,424
certain degree, don't they help

6696
03:48:36,424 --> 03:48:37,792
that a little bit or they

6697
03:48:37,792 --> 03:48:40,192
prevent they prevent people

6698
03:48:40,328 --> 03:48:42,497
from parking. They they do help

6699
03:48:42,497 --> 03:48:44,897
what we decided collectively

6700
03:48:45,367 --> 03:48:48,967
when we had our workshop and

6701
03:48:48,970 --> 03:48:50,872
was that you can do landscape

6702
03:48:50,872 --> 03:48:53,642
elements, which is to say

6703
03:48:53,642 --> 03:48:55,477
plants, rocks, obstructive

6704
03:48:55,477 --> 03:48:56,878
rocks, right? Not just not just

6705
03:48:56,878 --> 03:48:58,379
gravel. Those are allowed, but

6706
03:48:58,379 --> 03:48:59,814
that's, that's not good. I'm

6707
03:48:59,814 --> 03:49:01,583
sorry to say that those are an

6708
03:49:01,583 --> 03:49:02,784
issue that that destroys

6709
03:49:02,784 --> 03:49:04,152
vehicles. If you put rocks like

6710
03:49:04,152 --> 03:49:05,987
that, well, that I mean, but

6711
03:49:05,987 --> 03:49:08,189
those are allowed. No, no, but

6712
03:49:08,189 --> 03:49:09,958
those are allowed beyond three

6713
03:49:09,958 --> 03:49:11,993
feet and beyond or beyond six

6714
03:49:11,993 --> 03:49:13,461
feet. But that's, that's what

6715
03:49:13,461 --> 03:49:15,263
the that's what we went through

6716
03:49:15,263 --> 03:49:18,132
with the workshop and came to

6717
03:49:18,132 --> 03:49:19,901
consensus on. So I'm not just

6718
03:49:19,901 --> 03:49:21,102
that was that was consensus. So

6719
03:49:21,102 --> 03:49:23,838
we're not we're not making this

6720
03:49:23,838 --> 03:49:26,407
up. This was the regular rocks.

6721
03:49:26,407 --> 03:49:28,576
Yeah. So so anything that is a

6722
03:49:28,576 --> 03:49:30,412
landscape element is allowed

6723
03:49:30,412 --> 03:49:33,615
beyond that three feet zone. So

6724
03:49:33,615 --> 03:49:35,490
you are allowed to use those

6725
03:49:35,490 --> 03:49:37,449
elements. But we also

6726
03:49:37,919 --> 03:49:39,755
collectively decided that posts,

6727
03:49:39,755 --> 03:49:42,155
wooden posts, plastic posts,

6728
03:49:42,557 --> 03:49:44,920
the rope swags, all those sorts

6729
03:49:44,920 --> 03:49:45,560
of things are not allowed. He

6730
03:49:45,560 --> 03:49:48,290
could plant a hedge, could

6731
03:49:48,290 --> 03:49:50,532
plant a hedge, he could put a

6732
03:49:50,532 --> 03:49:51,833
boulder bigger by doing so.

6733
03:49:51,833 --> 03:49:53,768
Correct. And we've suggested

6734
03:49:53,768 --> 03:49:55,603
that he do that. So all of

6735
03:49:55,603 --> 03:49:57,405
those are options on the table.

6736
03:49:57,405 --> 03:49:58,239
So to prevent that as

6737
03:49:58,239 --> 03:50:00,639
alternative to the plastic

6738
03:50:03,110 --> 03:50:06,140
sticks, the the little. What do

6739
03:50:06,140 --> 03:50:07,482
you call those things with the.

6740
03:50:07,482 --> 03:50:08,517
Reflective reflectors sticks.

6741
03:50:08,517 --> 03:50:11,520
Okay. Those would not be

6742
03:50:11,520 --> 03:50:12,454
allowed anywhere. Right? So in

6743
03:50:12,454 --> 03:50:15,230
this way, you just put the

6744
03:50:15,230 --> 03:50:18,292
grass down. You want to make

6745
03:50:18,292 --> 03:50:20,610
sure. Good point. Okay. So that

6746
03:50:20,610 --> 03:50:22,163
that, that while the grass is

6747
03:50:22,163 --> 03:50:24,132
trying to stick that you don't

6748
03:50:24,132 --> 03:50:27,732
have the dumb people going over

6749
03:50:27,970 --> 03:50:29,471
your lawn there, that temporary

6750
03:50:29,471 --> 03:50:31,773
elements, when you temporary

6751
03:50:31,773 --> 03:50:34,209
elements are allowed. Okay. All

6752
03:50:34,209 --> 03:50:36,344
right. So the so, so so

6753
03:50:36,344 --> 03:50:38,246
question for you is what is the

6754
03:50:38,246 --> 03:50:39,614
time period that you're going

6755
03:50:39,614 --> 03:50:41,383
to allow and not enforce?

6756
03:50:41,383 --> 03:50:42,784
Because if you're resodding and

6757
03:50:42,784 --> 03:50:44,252
you're constantly resodding,

6758
03:50:44,252 --> 03:50:45,420
you could, you could therefore

6759
03:50:45,420 --> 03:50:47,589
have these plastic poles out

6760
03:50:47,589 --> 03:50:48,956
there forever. So we could tell

6761
03:50:48,956 --> 03:50:50,325
Stephen, hey, by the way, just

6762
03:50:50,325 --> 03:50:51,592
keep throwing sod out there,

6763
03:50:51,592 --> 03:50:53,395
big boy. And you can keep these

6764
03:50:53,395 --> 03:50:56,464
plastic poles as long as you

6765
03:50:56,464 --> 03:50:58,699
want. So this, this is so, so

6766
03:50:58,699 --> 03:51:00,869
maybe, maybe, maybe that's my

6767
03:51:00,869 --> 03:51:03,772
situation. My my lawn floats

6768
03:51:03,772 --> 03:51:05,173
away with every heavy rain. So

6769
03:51:05,173 --> 03:51:05,874
that's why we're allowing the

6770
03:51:05,874 --> 03:51:06,941
gravel. That's why we're

6771
03:51:06,941 --> 03:51:08,710
allowing gravel. Going to

6772
03:51:08,710 --> 03:51:10,178
gravel get to get the rocks.

6773
03:51:10,178 --> 03:51:11,947
But, but I think we had a

6774
03:51:11,947 --> 03:51:13,480
conversation, Jeremy. Maybe we

6775
03:51:13,480 --> 03:51:15,448
didn't communicate, but there

6776
03:51:15,550 --> 03:51:18,820
must be some plastic pole that

6777
03:51:18,820 --> 03:51:20,255
does this. The. But it's an

6778
03:51:20,255 --> 03:51:22,900
esthetic issue. And this was

6779
03:51:22,900 --> 03:51:23,892
what we worked through at the

6780
03:51:23,892 --> 03:51:27,492
workshop, was that it's as much

6781
03:51:27,895 --> 03:51:28,963
about esthetics as it is about

6782
03:51:28,963 --> 03:51:31,733
obstruction. So. But the one

6783
03:51:31,733 --> 03:51:33,234
thing is. But one quick thing,

6784
03:51:33,234 --> 03:51:34,335
I'm sorry, I didn't I didn't

6785
03:51:34,335 --> 03:51:35,870
voice my opinion at the

6786
03:51:35,870 --> 03:51:37,605
workshop, but but I'm a little

6787
03:51:37,605 --> 03:51:38,807
concerned about large angular

6788
03:51:38,807 --> 03:51:40,809
rocks three feet off the right

6789
03:51:40,809 --> 03:51:42,430
of way. You're driving at night.

6790
03:51:42,430 --> 03:51:43,445
You MAY steer, you know, human

6791
03:51:43,445 --> 03:51:45,313
error. You MAY drive at night.

6792
03:51:45,313 --> 03:51:46,882
I know, man well, I'm told not

6793
03:51:46,882 --> 03:51:49,917
to drive, but I mean, we also

6794
03:51:49,917 --> 03:51:52,320
have trees there. Yeah, I know,

6795
03:51:52,320 --> 03:51:53,388
but but trees grow in. But

6796
03:51:53,388 --> 03:51:55,724
we're telling people to go

6797
03:51:55,724 --> 03:51:57,392
ahead and put angular big rocks

6798
03:51:57,392 --> 03:51:59,600
where there is where you're

6799
03:51:59,600 --> 03:52:00,895
driving. I just I'm, I mean,

6800
03:52:00,895 --> 03:52:02,730
you should not be driving there.

6801
03:52:02,730 --> 03:52:04,132
Well, but human error. Fernando,

6802
03:52:04,132 --> 03:52:07,168
you didn't hit that tree on

6803
03:52:07,168 --> 03:52:09,604
Ocean Lane Drive, did you? Hit

6804
03:52:09,604 --> 03:52:11,773
the generator? I mean, look,

6805
03:52:11,773 --> 03:52:13,975
it's hitting, hitting, hitting

6806
03:52:13,975 --> 03:52:15,844
large shrubs, hitting trees,

6807
03:52:15,844 --> 03:52:16,978
hitting angular rocks. That's

6808
03:52:16,978 --> 03:52:18,713
why we have the three foot

6809
03:52:18,713 --> 03:52:21,820
clear zone. Like you shouldn't

6810
03:52:21,820 --> 03:52:22,217
be driving in anywhere off the

6811
03:52:22,217 --> 03:52:24,850
asphalt. But that's why we have

6812
03:52:24,850 --> 03:52:25,860
the three foot clear zone with

6813
03:52:25,860 --> 03:52:27,860
no vertical obstructions.

6814
03:52:27,222 --> 03:52:30,158
Shouldn't be, but human error

6815
03:52:30,158 --> 03:52:31,559
or other things. I mean, but,

6816
03:52:31,559 --> 03:52:33,361
you know, we want to be safe,

6817
03:52:33,361 --> 03:52:35,196
right? We want to, I think, but

6818
03:52:35,196 --> 03:52:36,365
I think that that's a that's a

6819
03:52:36,365 --> 03:52:37,699
safe standard, though a three

6820
03:52:37,699 --> 03:52:39,167
foot clear zone on a

6821
03:52:39,167 --> 03:52:40,368
residential street with a very

6822
03:52:40,368 --> 03:52:42,204
low speed limit, I think is a

6823
03:52:42,204 --> 03:52:45,804
safe standard. Please call it a

6824
03:52:46,400 --> 03:52:47,375
ball. Yeah. So that's the

6825
03:52:47,375 --> 03:52:50,780
bottom line is should we start

6826
03:52:50,780 --> 03:52:50,979
enforcing SEPTEMBER 1st? Let's

6827
03:52:50,979 --> 03:52:52,881
have another conversation

6828
03:52:52,881 --> 03:52:54,916
before you start. One more.

6829
03:52:54,916 --> 03:52:56,385
Yeah one more. Let's put it on

6830
03:52:56,385 --> 03:52:58,219
the next agenda. Got it.

6831
03:52:58,219 --> 03:52:59,654
Alright. Yeah, we're we're

6832
03:52:59,654 --> 03:53:01,290
getting we're getting punchy.

6833
03:53:01,290 --> 03:53:02,324
Do we need to put out any

6834
03:53:02,324 --> 03:53:03,291
notices saying enforcement is

6835
03:53:03,291 --> 03:53:04,392
coming soon? That's what

6836
03:53:04,392 --> 03:53:05,960
they've been doing. We've been

6837
03:53:05,960 --> 03:53:07,395
doing. I'm just saying that

6838
03:53:07,395 --> 03:53:09,364
maybe continue to do it. I

6839
03:53:09,364 --> 03:53:10,465
don't know if we have a we

6840
03:53:10,465 --> 03:53:12,400
might our current notice might

6841
03:53:12,400 --> 03:53:13,668
have a date. So it does have a

6842
03:53:13,668 --> 03:53:15,470
date. Yeah. Do adjust it. We'll

6843
03:53:15,470 --> 03:53:17,438
have to adjust it coming soon.

6844
03:53:17,438 --> 03:53:18,606
We have made it a date that we

6845
03:53:18,606 --> 03:53:20,542
were going to do it. Okay.

6846
03:53:20,542 --> 03:53:21,776
We're going to go stamp on that.

6847
03:53:21,776 --> 03:53:24,776
All right. Thank you. Consensus