1 00:01:15,541 --> 00:01:16,675 >> Hello, everyone. I would 2 00:01:16,675 --> 00:01:17,643 like to say a few words prior 3 00:01:17,643 --> 00:01:20,643 to beginning our session this 4 00:01:20,747 --> 00:01:21,814 morning. Good morning. Before 5 00:01:21,814 --> 00:01:23,382 we begin, I want to say how 6 00:01:23,382 --> 00:01:23,950 honored I am to preside over 7 00:01:23,950 --> 00:01:26,350 my first regular commission 8 00:01:27,553 --> 00:01:28,121 meeting as Mayor. I want our 9 00:01:28,121 --> 00:01:28,688 meetings to be productive, 10 00:01:28,688 --> 00:01:31,880 respectful and welcoming to 11 00:01:32,459 --> 00:01:34,160 everyone. We won't always 12 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,620 agree, but we can listen to 13 00:01:36,620 --> 00:01:38,298 one another. Ask tough 14 00:01:38,298 --> 00:01:39,399 questions, treat each other 15 00:01:39,399 --> 00:01:39,965 with respect and make 16 00:01:39,965 --> 00:01:42,965 decisions based on what is 17 00:01:43,603 --> 00:01:45,500 best for Key West. I also want 18 00:01:45,500 --> 00:01:45,605 to residents to know that your 19 00:01:45,605 --> 00:01:47,605 participation matters greatly 20 00:01:47,974 --> 00:01:51,430 to us. This is your city 21 00:01:51,430 --> 00:01:51,677 government. And you should 22 00:01:51,677 --> 00:01:55,114 always feel welcome to be part 23 00:01:55,114 --> 00:01:57,500 of the process. We often say 24 00:01:57,500 --> 00:01:58,517 the key West is one human 25 00:01:58,517 --> 00:02:00,687 family. I want that to be 26 00:02:00,687 --> 00:02:01,954 reflected. Not in just what we 27 00:02:01,954 --> 00:02:04,291 say, but in how we treat one 28 00:02:04,291 --> 00:02:05,526 another and how we govern. We 29 00:02:05,526 --> 00:02:08,526 have important work ahead of 30 00:02:10,497 --> 00:02:11,799 us. Let's get to work now. A 31 00:02:11,799 --> 00:02:12,266 few notes on procedure first. 32 00:02:12,266 --> 00:02:13,670 So for for my fellow 33 00:02:13,670 --> 00:02:15,102 commissioners, I want you to 34 00:02:15,102 --> 00:02:17,502 know that all discussion 35 00:02:18,138 --> 00:02:21,138 items. Will we will be 36 00:02:21,642 --> 00:02:22,475 allowing public comment. 37 00:02:22,475 --> 00:02:25,879 Members of the public know if 38 00:02:25,879 --> 00:02:27,848 it is a discussion item. The 39 00:02:27,848 --> 00:02:28,749 mayor has discretion to allow 40 00:02:28,749 --> 00:02:30,818 public comment. It is my 41 00:02:30,818 --> 00:02:32,620 position that all discussion 42 00:02:32,620 --> 00:02:33,187 items in this meeting and 43 00:02:33,187 --> 00:02:35,587 every meeting forward will 44 00:02:35,690 --> 00:02:37,124 allow public comment. So feel 45 00:02:37,124 --> 00:02:39,527 free to sign up discussion 46 00:02:39,527 --> 00:02:40,294 items in the past discussion 47 00:02:40,294 --> 00:02:42,694 items did not automatically 48 00:02:43,331 --> 00:02:45,731 allow public comment that 49 00:02:48,340 --> 00:02:50,171 changes with my term. As far 50 00:02:50,171 --> 00:02:51,172 as procedures with regard to 51 00:02:51,172 --> 00:02:54,420 action items. I want my fellow 52 00:02:54,420 --> 00:02:55,276 commissioners to know that I 53 00:02:55,276 --> 00:02:57,645 will not require a motion to 54 00:02:57,645 --> 00:03:00,148 start discussion. If there is 55 00:03:00,148 --> 00:03:01,983 not a comfort level, but you 56 00:03:01,983 --> 00:03:02,851 have in starting with a 57 00:03:02,851 --> 00:03:04,318 motion. I'm certainly fine 58 00:03:04,318 --> 00:03:05,887 with starting with a question. 59 00:03:05,887 --> 00:03:07,689 If you have a question. We can 60 00:03:07,689 --> 00:03:10,191 start with questions. If you 61 00:03:10,191 --> 00:03:12,600 have a discussion first before 62 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:13,280 we make a motion, I'm okay 63 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:14,129 with that procedurally. With 64 00:03:14,129 --> 00:03:17,129 regard to Robert's rules of 65 00:03:17,197 --> 00:03:19,670 order. That is my approach. So 66 00:03:19,670 --> 00:03:20,702 we don't have to start with a 67 00:03:20,702 --> 00:03:21,937 motion because sometimes 68 00:03:21,937 --> 00:03:22,871 that's not clear from the 69 00:03:22,871 --> 00:03:26,474 start. So want to just let you 70 00:03:26,474 --> 00:03:26,975 know about that. Finally, I 71 00:03:26,975 --> 00:03:29,711 plan to take a break at 72 00:03:29,711 --> 00:03:30,679 11:00am. I want everybody know 73 00:03:30,679 --> 00:03:33,181 that now if you need a break 74 00:03:33,181 --> 00:03:34,249 prior to that, please let me 75 00:03:34,249 --> 00:03:36,818 know. And we it's not doesn't 76 00:03:36,818 --> 00:03:37,986 have to be 11:00am. But if we 77 00:03:37,986 --> 00:03:41,230 have not taken a break by 78 00:03:41,230 --> 00:03:42,157 11:00am, and we're at a 79 00:03:42,157 --> 00:03:42,757 natural break between items. 80 00:03:42,757 --> 00:03:45,757 That's when our morning break 81 00:03:46,628 --> 00:03:47,128 will I'm open to other 82 00:03:47,128 --> 00:03:48,530 suggestions. So during 83 00:03:48,530 --> 00:03:50,332 commissioner comments, please 84 00:03:50,332 --> 00:03:50,933 advise if you have other 85 00:03:50,933 --> 00:03:52,933 suggestions. Otherwise, let's 86 00:03:53,168 --> 00:03:55,568 start the meeting. MADAM 87 00:03:57,139 --> 00:03:57,573 Clerk, please call the roll. 88 00:03:57,573 --> 00:03:59,573 Calling the meeting 89 00:04:02,277 --> 00:04:03,412 Commissioner Kerry here. 90 00:04:03,412 --> 00:04:03,979 Commissioner Castillo here, 91 00:04:03,979 --> 00:04:04,813 Commissioner Haskell here, 92 00:04:04,813 --> 00:04:05,748 Commissioner Lee commissioner 93 00:04:05,748 --> 00:04:08,583 mascot here. See here, Mayor 94 00:04:08,583 --> 00:04:09,819 Coffman to hear. 95 00:04:09,819 --> 00:04:10,720 >> We stand for the invocation 96 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:11,253 by Reverend Madeline bomb 97 00:04:11,253 --> 00:04:14,253 followed by the Pledge of 98 00:04:19,762 --> 00:04:21,130 Allegiance. 99 00:04:21,130 --> 00:04:22,331 >> Good morning, everyone. It 100 00:04:22,331 --> 00:04:24,633 is my honor and privilege do 101 00:04:24,633 --> 00:04:25,635 an invocation this morning. 102 00:04:25,635 --> 00:04:28,404 Please join me in an attitude 103 00:04:28,404 --> 00:04:31,404 of prayer or meditation. Holy 104 00:04:33,243 --> 00:04:33,843 one giver of life great spirit 105 00:04:33,843 --> 00:04:36,846 that binds us all in covenant 106 00:04:36,846 --> 00:04:39,783 Love with one another. We 107 00:04:39,783 --> 00:04:40,750 humbly come before you today 108 00:04:40,750 --> 00:04:44,350 in your name as servants of 109 00:04:44,954 --> 00:04:47,123 this great city. As we gather 110 00:04:47,123 --> 00:04:48,357 this morning, MAY we pause and 111 00:04:48,357 --> 00:04:48,825 remember that we are part of 112 00:04:48,825 --> 00:04:50,825 something larger than 113 00:04:52,529 --> 00:04:55,397 ourselves. A community made up 114 00:04:55,397 --> 00:04:56,533 of people with different 115 00:04:56,533 --> 00:04:57,133 beliefs, backgrounds, 116 00:04:57,133 --> 00:05:00,133 experiences and hopes for the 117 00:05:01,571 --> 00:05:03,600 future. This has been and 118 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,600 continues to be a difficult 119 00:05:06,410 --> 00:05:09,450 season for our city. We are 120 00:05:09,450 --> 00:05:10,247 dealing with strong feelings 121 00:05:10,247 --> 00:05:12,810 and emotions among those who 122 00:05:12,810 --> 00:05:15,810 are those emotions are those 123 00:05:16,860 --> 00:05:17,887 who are hopeful. Those who are 124 00:05:17,887 --> 00:05:18,455 disappointed, those who remain 125 00:05:18,455 --> 00:05:20,855 uncertain about what comes 126 00:05:21,724 --> 00:05:23,793 next. But today we choose a 127 00:05:23,793 --> 00:05:26,193 different kind of strength. 128 00:05:26,830 --> 00:05:27,397 The strength to listen to 129 00:05:27,397 --> 00:05:28,966 understand and to treat one 130 00:05:28,966 --> 00:05:31,366 another with dignity. Even 131 00:05:32,403 --> 00:05:33,236 when we disagree. MAY those 132 00:05:33,236 --> 00:05:35,636 entrusted with leadership be 133 00:05:36,390 --> 00:05:38,439 guided by wisdom, courage, 134 00:05:39,910 --> 00:05:41,178 fairness and compassion. Maybe 135 00:05:41,178 --> 00:05:42,780 remember that public service 136 00:05:42,780 --> 00:05:43,680 is a responsibility for every 137 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,680 resident, not only those who 138 00:05:47,852 --> 00:05:48,486 agree with them. For those who 139 00:05:48,486 --> 00:05:50,720 have been hurt or discouraged. 140 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,720 MAY there be healing? For 141 00:05:53,991 --> 00:05:54,592 those who are feeling unheard? 142 00:05:54,592 --> 00:05:57,592 MAY there be opportunities to 143 00:05:58,262 --> 00:05:58,862 be heard? For those who have 144 00:05:58,862 --> 00:06:01,265 lost trust, MAY we find ways 145 00:06:01,265 --> 00:06:04,369 to rebuild And for those who 146 00:06:04,369 --> 00:06:06,971 are hopeful. That hope be 147 00:06:06,971 --> 00:06:08,673 joined with humility and a 148 00:06:08,673 --> 00:06:10,174 willingness to work with 149 00:06:10,174 --> 00:06:10,742 others. MAY we have the 150 00:06:10,742 --> 00:06:12,510 courage to acknowledge what 151 00:06:12,510 --> 00:06:15,580 needs to change the wisdom to 152 00:06:15,580 --> 00:06:16,581 know what we must preserved 153 00:06:16,581 --> 00:06:19,581 and the patients to understand 154 00:06:19,917 --> 00:06:20,685 that healing a community is a 155 00:06:20,685 --> 00:06:23,850 process we undertake together 156 00:06:25,230 --> 00:06:25,657 as one human family. Whatever 157 00:06:25,657 --> 00:06:26,458 our faith or tradition, MAY we 158 00:06:26,458 --> 00:06:30,580 be guided by the values we 159 00:06:31,162 --> 00:06:32,997 hold in common truth, justice, 160 00:06:32,997 --> 00:06:34,997 Compassion, Service and 161 00:06:35,367 --> 00:06:36,668 respect for the dignity of 162 00:06:36,668 --> 00:06:37,469 every person. Let this 163 00:06:37,469 --> 00:06:40,205 meeting, mark, not simply the 164 00:06:40,205 --> 00:06:41,439 beginning of a new term, but 165 00:06:41,439 --> 00:06:42,341 the beginning of a renewed 166 00:06:42,341 --> 00:06:45,341 commitment to one another. And 167 00:06:45,677 --> 00:06:48,460 the future of this city. Maher 168 00:06:48,460 --> 00:06:50,649 words today bring more light 169 00:06:50,649 --> 00:06:51,150 than heat, more understanding, 170 00:06:51,150 --> 00:06:53,550 then division and more 171 00:06:53,619 --> 00:06:54,452 possibility, then fear and 172 00:06:54,452 --> 00:06:55,254 they we leave this room 173 00:06:55,254 --> 00:06:57,623 committed to the belief that 174 00:06:57,623 --> 00:06:58,757 despite our differences, we 175 00:06:58,757 --> 00:07:01,493 are still one community and 176 00:07:01,493 --> 00:07:02,861 our best future is the one 177 00:07:02,861 --> 00:07:03,529 that we built together in the 178 00:07:03,529 --> 00:07:07,729 name of all that is good. And 179 00:07:13,338 --> 00:07:15,274 holy, we all say Amen. 180 00:07:15,274 --> 00:07:18,274 Republic for which it stands. 181 00:07:18,443 --> 00:07:19,450 One nation under GOD out. 182 00:07:19,450 --> 00:07:21,450 >> Indivisible, with liberty 183 00:07:25,418 --> 00:07:27,818 and justice for all. 184 00:07:28,453 --> 00:07:29,521 >> Okay. Approval of agenda. 185 00:07:29,521 --> 00:07:32,521 Are there changes to the 186 00:07:32,892 --> 00:07:33,459 agenda? Yes, please. 187 00:07:33,459 --> 00:07:35,459 Commissioner Haskell, thank 188 00:07:38,431 --> 00:07:41,301 you. I'm so used to saying 189 00:07:41,301 --> 00:07:43,402 MADAM Mayor say MISTER It's a 190 00:07:43,402 --> 00:07:45,802 Thank you, Mary. Appropriate. 191 00:07:48,741 --> 00:07:49,209 Thank you. I would like to 192 00:07:49,209 --> 00:07:51,311 move item number That 193 00:07:51,311 --> 00:07:53,711 resolution regarding our cup 194 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:55,314 places funding to be heard 195 00:07:55,314 --> 00:07:58,314 along with for just before 196 00:07:59,152 --> 00:08:02,220 item number. 42, which has to 197 00:08:02,220 --> 00:08:03,990 do with the 7 800 lucky 198 00:08:03,990 --> 00:08:04,591 defecation. Question for about 199 00:08:04,591 --> 00:08:06,526 that, do we have speakers for 200 00:08:06,526 --> 00:08:09,526 number 2? Item that we have 201 00:08:11,965 --> 00:08:14,368 one, I believe could we could 202 00:08:14,368 --> 00:08:16,136 we put item 42 right after 2 203 00:08:16,136 --> 00:08:18,500 said another option. So that 204 00:08:18,500 --> 00:08:20,405 the speaker would have 205 00:08:21,875 --> 00:08:22,476 opportunity to speak. I don't 206 00:08:22,476 --> 00:08:26,760 have any other items will be 207 00:08:29,149 --> 00:08:32,149 pulled. MISTER Mayor, I was 208 00:08:32,987 --> 00:08:36,587 gonna pull item to be heard. 209 00:08:38,459 --> 00:08:39,590 After the discussion item. I I 210 00:08:39,590 --> 00:08:39,627 know the speaker has to leave 211 00:08:39,627 --> 00:08:42,596 by 10:00am. That's why I'm 212 00:08:42,596 --> 00:08:44,364 asking that. Maybe could we 213 00:08:44,364 --> 00:08:47,364 allow his comment only one 214 00:08:48,302 --> 00:08:48,936 speaker. That comment first, 215 00:08:48,936 --> 00:08:52,536 it's It's not called until the 216 00:08:53,407 --> 00:08:54,274 end of the morning session. I 217 00:08:54,274 --> 00:08:54,909 don't I just it would be 218 00:08:54,909 --> 00:08:57,110 before report. Still, it would 219 00:08:57,110 --> 00:08:59,247 just be the last resolution 220 00:08:59,247 --> 00:09:00,248 and there's 2 before well, 221 00:09:00,248 --> 00:09:00,881 actually, whatever gets 222 00:09:00,881 --> 00:09:03,383 pulled, Well, let's see how it 223 00:09:03,383 --> 00:09:06,387 goes. The rest of the the rest 224 00:09:06,387 --> 00:09:10,587 of the agenda I'd also like to 225 00:09:11,893 --> 00:09:14,293 poll 40's 14 0 k 27 30. 30 on 226 00:09:19,433 --> 00:09:20,100 consent. Yes, Anyone else. 227 00:09:20,100 --> 00:09:23,100 Thank you, MISTER Mayor. I 228 00:09:23,203 --> 00:09:23,738 want to commissioner on sea. 229 00:09:23,738 --> 00:09:25,738 Number. 24, please, just 230 00:09:25,940 --> 00:09:27,940 discussion. Number. 24, okay. 231 00:09:29,944 --> 00:09:32,344 Anyone else? Callie once 232 00:09:33,782 --> 00:09:35,750 calling 20 still Yes, just for 233 00:09:35,750 --> 00:09:36,952 clarity. So we're just pulling 234 00:09:36,952 --> 00:09:37,586 these items off a consent. But 235 00:09:37,586 --> 00:09:39,860 the order in which that 236 00:09:39,860 --> 00:09:39,754 they're being heard hasn't 237 00:09:39,754 --> 00:09:42,154 been discussed, right? They 238 00:09:42,757 --> 00:09:44,960 only, yes. Oh, that's right. 239 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:45,993 So MADAM Clerk to have a 240 00:09:45,993 --> 00:09:46,928 suggestion with regard to how 241 00:09:46,928 --> 00:09:49,698 you given the speaker you 242 00:09:49,698 --> 00:09:51,500 might want to do number 2. 0st 243 00:09:51,500 --> 00:09:52,330 and then have if there's any 244 00:09:52,330 --> 00:09:53,969 discussion left, have the 245 00:09:53,969 --> 00:09:55,803 discussion and then move into 246 00:09:55,803 --> 00:09:57,239 the rest of the resolutions. 247 00:09:57,239 --> 00:09:57,839 Okay. So we would. So your 248 00:09:57,839 --> 00:09:58,473 suggestion is would be to do 249 00:09:58,473 --> 00:10:00,241 42 right after 2. Is that what 250 00:10:00,241 --> 00:10:00,876 you're saying right? And they 251 00:10:00,876 --> 00:10:03,845 move on to the other ones that 252 00:10:03,845 --> 00:10:04,846 have been pulled a case. Is 253 00:10:04,846 --> 00:10:06,548 there any any concern about 254 00:10:06,548 --> 00:10:08,500 that for many members of the 255 00:10:08,500 --> 00:10:09,170 commission? No, I that's a 256 00:10:09,170 --> 00:10:12,321 good idea. And I do have a 257 00:10:12,321 --> 00:10:13,122 concern. MISTER Mayor, okay, I 258 00:10:13,122 --> 00:10:15,900 would prefer to discuss have 259 00:10:15,900 --> 00:10:17,159 the discussion item about the 260 00:10:17,159 --> 00:10:17,760 item. I'm not quite 261 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:18,293 understanding why to have the 262 00:10:18,293 --> 00:10:20,396 discussion about the item 263 00:10:20,396 --> 00:10:23,164 after we vote. I think the 264 00:10:23,164 --> 00:10:24,320 idea is to save time they're 265 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:24,633 related and most likely the 266 00:10:24,633 --> 00:10:26,669 item number 2 will lead into 267 00:10:26,669 --> 00:10:27,737 item number. 42. So I think 268 00:10:27,737 --> 00:10:28,337 that was think that's think 269 00:10:28,337 --> 00:10:29,604 the discussion will encompass 270 00:10:29,604 --> 00:10:31,707 all of it. But we can 271 00:10:31,707 --> 00:10:34,107 certainly do the discussion 272 00:10:34,643 --> 00:10:35,778 first. And then item that's 273 00:10:35,778 --> 00:10:36,712 fine, too. I mean, what I just 274 00:10:36,712 --> 00:10:38,180 feel like if there's an 275 00:10:38,180 --> 00:10:40,580 opportunity discuss the item 276 00:10:41,217 --> 00:10:42,618 before we vote on it, it would 277 00:10:42,618 --> 00:10:45,618 make sense. That's that's that 278 00:10:45,721 --> 00:10:46,556 that's the proposal is 32. No 279 00:10:46,556 --> 00:10:47,990 to 2. And then that, too, is 280 00:10:47,990 --> 00:10:48,858 the action item. 42 is the 281 00:10:48,858 --> 00:10:49,425 discussion. So we're going to 282 00:10:49,425 --> 00:10:50,993 take action and then we're 283 00:10:50,993 --> 00:10:54,593 going to discuss it. It's good 284 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:57,600 to separate items. Right? So 285 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:01,200 we would we would do for 2.42 286 00:11:01,337 --> 00:11:01,938 0st. And then is. I would love 287 00:11:01,938 --> 00:11:03,273 discuss it first. That's fine 288 00:11:03,273 --> 00:11:04,206 taking a vote on it. Okay. 289 00:11:04,206 --> 00:11:06,606 There's an opportunity. Okay. 290 00:11:07,777 --> 00:11:08,378 I think that there will be 291 00:11:08,378 --> 00:11:10,800 merged altogether. That's one 292 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:10,680 discussion. Yeah, it's fun. 293 00:11:10,680 --> 00:11:14,280 Okay. So we'll do. We'll do. 294 00:11:14,551 --> 00:11:17,551 42 0st. In terms of the 295 00:11:18,355 --> 00:11:21,355 resolutions and then we have 296 00:11:25,295 --> 00:11:26,663 pulled off to 14. 27. 30 24 297 00:11:26,663 --> 00:11:28,640 other any public speakers. 298 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:28,632 There some speakers on those 299 00:11:28,632 --> 00:11:31,320 already mentioned. We have 300 00:11:31,468 --> 00:11:32,690 number 9 withdrawn and number, 301 00:11:32,690 --> 00:11:34,469 41 withdrawn. Just keep that 302 00:11:35,805 --> 00:11:39,405 in mind for your. So coming 303 00:11:39,610 --> 00:11:42,610 off consent. I have 12 or 2, 304 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:44,148 12, 14. 24 27 30. Correct? 305 00:11:44,148 --> 00:11:47,748 Okay. Is there a motion to 306 00:11:49,850 --> 00:11:50,530 approve the agenda Corrections 307 00:11:50,530 --> 00:11:50,721 Commissioner Casteel moves? 308 00:11:50,721 --> 00:11:51,488 Commissioner seconds. All 309 00:11:51,488 --> 00:11:53,123 those in favor. Please say 310 00:11:53,123 --> 00:11:54,859 Aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed 311 00:11:54,859 --> 00:11:57,259 hearing. None motion carries 312 00:11:57,895 --> 00:11:58,496 and consent agenda as amended. 313 00:11:58,496 --> 00:12:02,960 Is there a motion to approve 314 00:12:02,133 --> 00:12:03,200 the consent agenda move for 315 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:04,835 approval Commissioner Kaseya 316 00:12:04,835 --> 00:12:06,971 moves. Commissioner Ross the 317 00:12:06,971 --> 00:12:07,537 seconds. All those in favor of 318 00:12:07,537 --> 00:12:09,937 consent agenda. Please say 319 00:12:11,776 --> 00:12:12,376 Aye. Aye. Aye opposed during 320 00:12:12,376 --> 00:12:13,100 That moves us to 321 00:12:13,100 --> 00:12:15,100 proclamations. National Diaper 322 00:12:18,950 --> 00:12:19,550 need Awareness Month. Whereas 323 00:12:19,550 --> 00:12:20,251 diapers and other necessities 324 00:12:20,251 --> 00:12:20,785 are essential to keeping 325 00:12:20,785 --> 00:12:22,753 babies and young children 326 00:12:22,753 --> 00:12:23,588 clean, dry, healthy. 327 00:12:23,588 --> 00:12:25,623 >> Unable to participate in 328 00:12:25,623 --> 00:12:26,958 childcare and early learning 329 00:12:26,958 --> 00:12:27,858 settings. Where's the National 330 00:12:27,858 --> 00:12:30,858 Diaper Bank network? Stipe are 331 00:12:31,663 --> 00:12:33,363 checked 2026. Found that 40% 332 00:12:33,363 --> 00:12:35,300 of us households with children 333 00:12:35,300 --> 00:12:36,166 under 4 in diapers, experience 334 00:12:36,166 --> 00:12:38,166 diaper insecurity, including 335 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:40,605 62% of low-income households. 336 00:12:40,605 --> 00:12:41,740 And whereas in Monroe County 337 00:12:41,740 --> 00:12:42,273 alone, an estimated one in 4 338 00:12:42,273 --> 00:12:44,673 children are under age 3 339 00:12:45,243 --> 00:12:46,544 experience diaper insecurity. 340 00:12:46,544 --> 00:12:47,679 Where is Miami Diaper Bank? A 341 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:48,713 member of the National Diaper 342 00:12:48,713 --> 00:12:51,113 Bank Network supports Florida 343 00:12:51,416 --> 00:12:52,918 Keys. Healthy Start, Coalition 344 00:12:52,918 --> 00:12:53,418 that helps fill a critical gap 345 00:12:53,418 --> 00:12:55,200 and human services for 346 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:56,788 vulnerable children and 347 00:12:56,788 --> 00:12:57,722 families whereas national 348 00:12:57,722 --> 00:12:58,457 diaper need Awareness Week 349 00:12:58,457 --> 00:13:00,857 established by the National 350 00:13:01,226 --> 00:13:03,940 Diaper Bank Network and absurd 351 00:13:03,940 --> 00:13:04,930 September 14th to the 20th 352 00:13:04,930 --> 00:13:05,731 2026. Provides an opportunity 353 00:13:05,731 --> 00:13:07,731 for residents, businesses, 354 00:13:07,866 --> 00:13:09,668 civic organizations and public 355 00:13:09,668 --> 00:13:10,235 officials to learn about 356 00:13:10,235 --> 00:13:11,769 diaper insecurity and take 357 00:13:11,769 --> 00:13:13,769 practical action through 358 00:13:13,905 --> 00:13:14,506 advocacy diaper drives 359 00:13:14,506 --> 00:13:15,940 donations, volunteer service 360 00:13:15,940 --> 00:13:17,940 referrals and community 361 00:13:18,143 --> 00:13:18,743 partnerships. And where is 362 00:13:18,743 --> 00:13:19,312 through our important work of 363 00:13:19,312 --> 00:13:21,800 addressing diaper needs the 364 00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,115 Florida Keys, Healthy Start 365 00:13:23,115 --> 00:13:25,515 Coalition and diaper banks 366 00:13:25,918 --> 00:13:26,418 play a critical role in 367 00:13:26,418 --> 00:13:26,952 supporting families and 368 00:13:26,952 --> 00:13:27,553 proving infant health and 369 00:13:27,553 --> 00:13:29,154 well-being and advancing our 370 00:13:29,154 --> 00:13:31,357 local and state economic 371 00:13:31,357 --> 00:13:32,558 growth. Now, therefore, I Sam 372 00:13:32,558 --> 00:13:33,920 Kaufman, mayor of the city of 373 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:34,493 Key West, along with the 374 00:13:34,493 --> 00:13:36,528 entire key West City 375 00:13:36,528 --> 00:13:36,996 Commission, do hereby proclaim 376 00:13:36,996 --> 00:13:38,996 SEPTEMBER 14 through 377 00:13:39,665 --> 00:13:41,665 SEPTEMBER, 20th 2026. As 378 00:13:41,801 --> 00:13:43,350 National Diaper Need Awareness 379 00:13:43,350 --> 00:13:43,568 Week in the southern most city 380 00:13:43,568 --> 00:13:45,968 of the United Continental 381 00:13:58,384 --> 00:14:00,384 United States. 382 00:14:04,690 --> 00:14:07,690 >> We're going to the corner 383 00:14:13,433 --> 00:14:14,401 right My Okay. 384 00:14:14,401 --> 00:14:16,303 >> Thank you. To the city of 385 00:14:16,303 --> 00:14:17,303 Key West are recognizing 386 00:14:17,303 --> 00:14:17,903 Diaper Need Awareness Month 387 00:14:17,903 --> 00:14:18,838 and help shine a light on the 388 00:14:18,838 --> 00:14:21,238 issue that affects families 389 00:14:22,709 --> 00:14:23,176 right here in the Keys. The 390 00:14:23,176 --> 00:14:24,443 coalition distributes 391 00:14:24,443 --> 00:14:25,178 approximately 80 to 100,000 392 00:14:25,178 --> 00:14:27,647 diapers each year and we hope 393 00:14:27,647 --> 00:14:30,647 you'll remember us when our 394 00:14:30,750 --> 00:14:32,652 annual diaper Drive returns in 395 00:14:32,652 --> 00:14:33,587 FEBRUARY, SEPTEMBER is also 396 00:14:33,587 --> 00:14:34,860 rba Safety Hero campaign each 397 00:14:34,860 --> 00:14:36,486 year helping us provide 398 00:14:36,523 --> 00:14:38,392 hundreds of families with 399 00:14:38,392 --> 00:14:39,226 essential safety items like 400 00:14:39,226 --> 00:14:40,861 car seats and safe baby beds 401 00:14:40,861 --> 00:14:43,263 for the month of SEPTEMBER. 402 00:14:43,263 --> 00:14:43,897 You can be a safety hero. You 403 00:14:43,897 --> 00:14:45,232 have the opportunity to help 404 00:14:45,232 --> 00:14:47,632 provide local babies and 405 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:50,103 families with essential safety 406 00:14:50,103 --> 00:14:51,805 resources from car seats and 407 00:14:51,805 --> 00:14:52,573 safe sleep supplies to baby 408 00:14:52,573 --> 00:14:54,207 proofing materials. Your 409 00:14:54,207 --> 00:14:55,142 donation can help us provide 410 00:14:55,142 --> 00:14:56,777 the essentials that our babies 411 00:14:56,777 --> 00:14:58,879 need to start life safely. We 412 00:14:58,879 --> 00:15:00,614 are incredibly grateful for a 413 00:15:00,614 --> 00:15:01,915 community that continues to 414 00:15:01,915 --> 00:15:02,516 show up for our youngest 415 00:15:02,516 --> 00:15:05,516 members and the families that 416 00:15:15,996 --> 00:15:18,996 raised them. Thank you so 417 00:15:19,233 --> 00:15:20,301 Hispanic Heritage Month. 418 00:15:20,301 --> 00:15:21,436 >> Whereas each year the 419 00:15:21,436 --> 00:15:22,336 United States observes 420 00:15:22,336 --> 00:15:23,370 National Hispanic Heritage 421 00:15:23,370 --> 00:15:23,638 Month by celebrating the 422 00:15:23,638 --> 00:15:25,506 culture, heritage and 423 00:15:25,506 --> 00:15:26,607 countless contributions of 424 00:15:26,607 --> 00:15:29,700 those whose ancestors were 425 00:15:29,177 --> 00:15:30,780 indigenous to North America as 426 00:15:30,780 --> 00:15:30,945 well as those who came from 427 00:15:30,945 --> 00:15:32,713 Central and South America and 428 00:15:32,713 --> 00:15:34,549 Mexico, the Caribbean and 429 00:15:34,549 --> 00:15:35,149 Spain. And where is this 430 00:15:35,149 --> 00:15:37,585 year's theme? Is partners of 431 00:15:37,585 --> 00:15:38,720 change shaping a future 432 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:39,687 together and invites us to 433 00:15:39,687 --> 00:15:40,188 celebrate and recognize the 434 00:15:40,188 --> 00:15:41,222 significant strides of 435 00:15:41,222 --> 00:15:41,923 Hispanics in the economic 436 00:15:41,923 --> 00:15:44,923 political and social growth of 437 00:15:45,827 --> 00:15:46,361 the United States. And whereas 438 00:15:46,361 --> 00:15:47,495 although too numerous to 439 00:15:47,495 --> 00:15:49,495 recognize individually by 440 00:15:49,730 --> 00:15:52,130 name, Hispanic and vigil 441 00:15:52,300 --> 00:15:53,568 service civic rights leaders 442 00:15:53,568 --> 00:15:55,568 and community organizers, 443 00:15:55,670 --> 00:15:56,271 politicians, soldiers, 444 00:15:56,271 --> 00:15:57,806 educators, journalist, first 445 00:15:57,806 --> 00:15:59,341 responders, pioneers and art 446 00:15:59,341 --> 00:15:59,874 and science. Health care 447 00:15:59,874 --> 00:16:00,475 professionals, athletes, 448 00:16:00,475 --> 00:16:02,475 inventors, entertainers, and 449 00:16:05,447 --> 00:16:06,470 so much more. And whereas. As 450 00:16:06,470 --> 00:16:07,416 a community that is committed 451 00:16:07,416 --> 00:16:08,183 to celebrating our diversity 452 00:16:08,183 --> 00:16:10,152 celebrating Hispanic Heritage 453 00:16:10,152 --> 00:16:11,286 Month reaffirms its commitment 454 00:16:11,286 --> 00:16:12,387 to inclusion as we continue 455 00:16:12,387 --> 00:16:13,922 our efforts to ensure that 456 00:16:13,922 --> 00:16:16,922 everyone who lives visits, our 457 00:16:16,959 --> 00:16:17,392 city feels equally valued and 458 00:16:17,392 --> 00:16:19,792 has equal access to 459 00:16:20,195 --> 00:16:21,396 opportunities to help them 460 00:16:21,396 --> 00:16:21,996 thrive. And now they're for 461 00:16:21,996 --> 00:16:22,597 ice. And Kaufman. Mayor, the 462 00:16:22,597 --> 00:16:24,366 city of Key West, along with 463 00:16:24,366 --> 00:16:26,367 the entire key West City 464 00:16:26,367 --> 00:16:27,336 Commission to hear by wrecked, 465 00:16:27,336 --> 00:16:29,736 honor and recognize SEPTEMBER 466 00:16:31,173 --> 00:16:31,773 15 through OCTOBER. 15th 2026 467 00:16:31,773 --> 00:16:32,374 as Hispanic Heritage Month in 468 00:16:32,374 --> 00:16:35,374 the southernmost city of the 469 00:16:47,389 --> 00:16:49,389 continental United States. 470 00:16:55,631 --> 00:16:56,499 I'll be brief. I just want to 471 00:16:56,499 --> 00:16:57,500 say thank you to the city and 472 00:16:57,500 --> 00:16:59,502 to my fellow commissioners 473 00:16:59,502 --> 00:17:01,537 into the mayor for 474 00:17:01,537 --> 00:17:03,537 >> Recognizing Hispanic 475 00:17:03,806 --> 00:17:04,807 Heritage Month as the daughter 476 00:17:04,807 --> 00:17:05,274 of a Cuban immigrant. This is 477 00:17:05,274 --> 00:17:07,674 very important to me 478 00:17:08,243 --> 00:17:08,810 personally. To the entire 479 00:17:08,810 --> 00:17:11,210 Hispanic community. So we 480 00:17:18,822 --> 00:17:19,656 thank you for this. 481 00:17:19,656 --> 00:17:20,823 >> Preparedness month where a 482 00:17:20,823 --> 00:17:21,958 SEPTEMBER is recognized as 483 00:17:21,958 --> 00:17:22,992 National Preparedness Month. A 484 00:17:22,992 --> 00:17:24,127 time to raise awareness about 485 00:17:24,127 --> 00:17:26,229 the importance of preparing 486 00:17:26,229 --> 00:17:27,397 for disasters and emergencies. 487 00:17:27,397 --> 00:17:28,530 And to encourage individuals, 488 00:17:28,530 --> 00:17:30,530 families, businesses and 489 00:17:31,330 --> 00:17:32,969 communities to act before 490 00:17:32,969 --> 00:17:34,103 disaster strikes. And whereas 491 00:17:34,103 --> 00:17:35,639 the 2026 National Preparedness 492 00:17:35,639 --> 00:17:38,390 Month the American stand 493 00:17:38,642 --> 00:17:39,408 ready, focuses on getting back 494 00:17:39,408 --> 00:17:39,976 to essentials, preparedness 495 00:17:39,976 --> 00:17:41,745 and empowering Americans to 496 00:17:41,745 --> 00:17:42,479 take simple, practical steps 497 00:17:42,479 --> 00:17:44,413 that can help protect 498 00:17:44,413 --> 00:17:45,648 themselves, their families and 499 00:17:45,648 --> 00:17:46,883 their communities. And where 500 00:17:46,883 --> 00:17:47,918 is every household should make 501 00:17:47,918 --> 00:17:49,753 a family emergency plan that 502 00:17:49,753 --> 00:17:51,788 identifies have family members 503 00:17:51,788 --> 00:17:52,422 will communicate where they 504 00:17:52,422 --> 00:17:54,591 will go in emergency. How they 505 00:17:54,591 --> 00:17:55,559 were reunite of separated and 506 00:17:55,559 --> 00:17:56,593 how they will count for the 507 00:17:56,593 --> 00:17:57,893 needs of our children, older 508 00:17:57,893 --> 00:17:58,695 adults, individuals with 509 00:17:58,695 --> 00:18:00,798 disabilities, pets and those 510 00:18:00,798 --> 00:18:02,833 who MAY require additional 511 00:18:02,833 --> 00:18:03,567 assistance and whereas 512 00:18:03,567 --> 00:18:04,133 preparedness is a shared 513 00:18:04,133 --> 00:18:05,803 responsibility and everyone 514 00:18:05,803 --> 00:18:06,403 can get involved in their 515 00:18:06,403 --> 00:18:09,403 community by taking action to 516 00:18:09,406 --> 00:18:09,973 prepare for emergencies, 517 00:18:09,973 --> 00:18:10,741 supporting neighbor Sharon 518 00:18:10,741 --> 00:18:12,543 preparedness information, 519 00:18:12,543 --> 00:18:13,743 participating, community 520 00:18:13,743 --> 00:18:14,244 preparedness activities and 521 00:18:14,244 --> 00:18:15,579 helping strengthen the 522 00:18:15,579 --> 00:18:18,149 resilience of the city of Key 523 00:18:18,149 --> 00:18:19,617 West and whereas the city of 524 00:18:19,617 --> 00:18:20,117 Key West encourages all 525 00:18:20,117 --> 00:18:20,784 residents, businesses, 526 00:18:20,784 --> 00:18:23,184 organizations and visitors to 527 00:18:23,453 --> 00:18:24,755 take time to SEPTEMBER to 528 00:18:24,755 --> 00:18:25,289 prepare, stand get involved 529 00:18:25,289 --> 00:18:26,357 and take meaningful steps 530 00:18:26,357 --> 00:18:28,757 toward becoming more resilient 531 00:18:30,930 --> 00:18:31,262 and ready for emergencies. And 532 00:18:31,262 --> 00:18:32,597 now there for eye, Sam 533 00:18:32,597 --> 00:18:33,263 Kaufman, mayor of the city Key 534 00:18:33,263 --> 00:18:33,831 West, along with the entire 535 00:18:33,831 --> 00:18:36,267 Key West City Commission do 536 00:18:36,267 --> 00:18:37,468 hereby proclaim SEPTEMBER as 537 00:18:37,468 --> 00:18:39,300 Preparedness Month in the city 538 00:18:39,300 --> 00:18:40,271 of Key West and encourage all 539 00:18:40,271 --> 00:18:40,838 members of our community 540 00:18:40,838 --> 00:18:43,238 embrace the theme American 541 00:18:55,953 --> 00:18:57,953 stand, stand ready. 542 00:19:05,697 --> 00:19:07,697 >> Good morning. 543 00:19:08,767 --> 00:19:09,468 Commissioners, City manager, 544 00:19:09,468 --> 00:19:10,680 thank you for this 545 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:12,680 proclamation and your 546 00:19:12,237 --> 00:19:13,438 continued support for 547 00:19:13,438 --> 00:19:14,839 emergency management. I'm here 548 00:19:14,839 --> 00:19:16,808 to accept this ward as 549 00:19:16,808 --> 00:19:17,575 emergency manager with the 550 00:19:17,575 --> 00:19:18,143 Lieutenant Anderson chief 551 00:19:18,143 --> 00:19:21,143 Allen neighbor from the Key 552 00:19:21,346 --> 00:19:21,913 West Fire Department chip, 553 00:19:21,913 --> 00:19:23,814 Casper in John Rizzo from 554 00:19:23,814 --> 00:19:25,751 National Weather Service. Key 555 00:19:25,751 --> 00:19:27,386 West. I want to tell you all 556 00:19:27,386 --> 00:19:30,589 that this is just part of your 557 00:19:30,589 --> 00:19:31,190 emergency management team and 558 00:19:31,190 --> 00:19:34,393 we are ready and prepared to 559 00:19:34,393 --> 00:19:35,260 for any emergency. We want to 560 00:19:35,260 --> 00:19:38,300 encourage you all also to 561 00:19:38,300 --> 00:19:39,164 prepared for any emergency. 562 00:19:39,164 --> 00:19:41,564 Have your emergency management 563 00:19:42,301 --> 00:19:44,370 emergency preparedness plan be 564 00:19:44,370 --> 00:19:44,870 ready to execute that plan 565 00:19:44,870 --> 00:19:47,270 when you're a hurricane 566 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,640 strikes or emergency and stay 567 00:19:52,770 --> 00:19:52,678 informed too official 568 00:19:52,678 --> 00:19:53,712 information websites like the 569 00:19:53,712 --> 00:19:55,948 National Weather Service, Key 570 00:19:55,948 --> 00:19:58,348 West and Monroe County 571 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:03,720 Emergency Management. Also too 572 00:20:07,193 --> 00:20:08,928 staying connected with to 573 00:20:08,928 --> 00:20:09,829 receive alerts from alert. 574 00:20:09,829 --> 00:20:11,960 Monroe by going to their 575 00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:13,960 website. Monroe County 576 00:20:14,834 --> 00:20:17,234 Emergency Management. And also 577 00:20:18,404 --> 00:20:20,473 too go to our city of Key 578 00:20:20,473 --> 00:20:23,643 website to sign up for civic 579 00:20:23,643 --> 00:20:24,210 ready. So be safe out there. 580 00:20:24,210 --> 00:20:27,210 Stay prepared and GOD bless 581 00:20:36,589 --> 00:20:38,989 you Thank you again. 582 00:20:43,163 --> 00:20:45,563 >> Okay. Presentations I think 583 00:20:47,834 --> 00:20:49,834 we're Presentations. Item 584 00:20:51,300 --> 00:20:51,304 number. 37, keep Key West 585 00:20:51,304 --> 00:20:52,272 beautiful. 586 00:20:52,272 --> 00:20:54,672 >> Good morning. Mayor and 587 00:20:54,908 --> 00:20:55,509 commissioners today. Keep us 588 00:20:55,509 --> 00:20:56,109 beautiful in the qs. Chamber 589 00:20:56,109 --> 00:20:56,743 of Commerce are pleased to 590 00:20:56,743 --> 00:20:59,743 recognize the recipient of the 591 00:21:00,147 --> 00:21:01,214 Business Pride Award. This 592 00:21:01,214 --> 00:21:03,500 recognizes businesses South 593 00:21:03,500 --> 00:21:04,118 White Street to take pride in 594 00:21:04,118 --> 00:21:04,718 their parent, other business 595 00:21:04,718 --> 00:21:07,554 and surrounding area and use 596 00:21:07,554 --> 00:21:08,654 that demonstrate pride in our 597 00:21:08,654 --> 00:21:09,255 community and celebrate a 598 00:21:09,255 --> 00:21:09,890 businesses that go above and 599 00:21:09,890 --> 00:21:12,890 beyond. To keep us clean, 600 00:21:13,794 --> 00:21:14,762 welcoming in beautiful this 601 00:21:14,762 --> 00:21:15,629 month, Business Pride Award 602 00:21:15,629 --> 00:21:18,629 goes to island. Also located 603 00:21:19,330 --> 00:21:20,133 at 505, for entry center 604 00:21:20,133 --> 00:21:22,200 adding sidewalk table service. 605 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:22,570 Their team has gone above and 606 00:21:22,570 --> 00:21:23,471 beyond by sweeping cleaning 607 00:21:23,471 --> 00:21:25,871 and maintaining the public 608 00:21:25,940 --> 00:21:27,208 space in front of business 609 00:21:27,208 --> 00:21:29,143 every day, the attention to 610 00:21:29,143 --> 00:21:29,776 parents have their business 611 00:21:29,776 --> 00:21:30,376 and surrounding area continues 612 00:21:30,376 --> 00:21:32,713 with cleaner, more attractive 613 00:21:32,713 --> 00:21:35,713 state. And a more welcoming 614 00:21:35,983 --> 00:21:36,583 experience residents visitors. 615 00:21:36,583 --> 00:21:39,583 Their efforts helped make the 616 00:21:39,921 --> 00:21:41,122 area more vibrant. I love 617 00:21:41,122 --> 00:21:42,456 about them in shape at this it 618 00:21:42,456 --> 00:21:42,890 is all about taking pride in 619 00:21:42,890 --> 00:21:44,890 your business, your 620 00:21:45,393 --> 00:21:47,328 surroundings in your 621 00:21:47,328 --> 00:21:48,950 community. Congratulations to 622 00:21:48,950 --> 00:21:48,963 Steve and Apple and the entire 623 00:21:48,963 --> 00:21:53,163 team of island. All to on this 624 00:22:04,780 --> 00:22:06,780 well-deserved recognition. 625 00:22:18,293 --> 00:22:19,427 Our 626 00:22:19,427 --> 00:22:21,196 next mission is that people 627 00:22:21,196 --> 00:22:22,798 around world which celebrate 628 00:22:22,798 --> 00:22:23,398 an individual goes above and 629 00:22:23,398 --> 00:22:23,898 beyond and creating a 630 00:22:23,898 --> 00:22:25,567 welcoming and memorable 631 00:22:25,567 --> 00:22:28,567 experience for others in our 632 00:22:28,903 --> 00:22:30,380 community. Today, we're 633 00:22:30,380 --> 00:22:30,538 pleased to recognize Pence 634 00:22:30,538 --> 00:22:31,640 stopped and at the was 635 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,475 nominated by Commissioner 636 00:22:33,475 --> 00:22:34,142 Monica Haskell. Exceptional 637 00:22:34,142 --> 00:22:36,542 customer service and genuine 638 00:22:37,112 --> 00:22:38,213 connection with both visitors 639 00:22:38,213 --> 00:22:39,248 and locals. Pence has a 640 00:22:39,248 --> 00:22:41,490 special gift for making 641 00:22:41,490 --> 00:22:42,500 everyone welcome. He 642 00:22:42,500 --> 00:22:42,984 cheerfully greeted each person 643 00:22:42,984 --> 00:22:45,153 who was the pastor enters the 644 00:22:45,153 --> 00:22:46,654 galleon parking lot with and 645 00:22:46,654 --> 00:22:47,489 affection. When asked how he 646 00:22:47,489 --> 00:22:51,890 is doing his answer is always 647 00:22:51,927 --> 00:22:53,662 excellent pay. That is more 648 00:22:53,662 --> 00:22:55,300 than that. He's cheerful, 649 00:22:55,300 --> 00:22:56,799 greeting print, remembers the 650 00:22:56,799 --> 00:22:57,332 names of guests and locals 651 00:22:57,332 --> 00:22:58,667 makes people feel valued 652 00:22:58,667 --> 00:23:00,870 appreciated and treat everyone 653 00:23:00,870 --> 00:23:01,670 like royalty, his kindness and 654 00:23:01,670 --> 00:23:03,138 personal connection leave a 655 00:23:03,138 --> 00:23:03,906 lasting impression and is part 656 00:23:03,906 --> 00:23:07,443 of the reason many visitors we 657 00:23:07,443 --> 00:23:08,430 turn us year after year, plan 658 00:23:08,430 --> 00:23:10,146 to represent the very best of 659 00:23:10,146 --> 00:23:12,546 q as hospitality attendance. 660 00:23:12,814 --> 00:23:13,883 Molly, welcoming spirit and 661 00:23:13,883 --> 00:23:15,351 the ability to make people 662 00:23:15,351 --> 00:23:15,984 feel like they belong. 663 00:23:15,984 --> 00:23:18,384 Congratulations to Prince stop 664 00:23:19,522 --> 00:23:20,123 to not being recognized with 665 00:23:20,123 --> 00:23:20,690 the people. Proud. A word and 666 00:23:20,690 --> 00:23:21,290 thank you for making q s a 667 00:23:21,290 --> 00:23:23,690 little brighter for everyone. 668 00:23:36,390 --> 00:23:38,390 You meet. 669 00:23:44,580 --> 00:23:46,483 I just want to say 670 00:23:46,483 --> 00:23:47,830 congratulations to the award 671 00:23:47,830 --> 00:23:48,952 winners and especially Austin 672 00:23:48,952 --> 00:23:49,486 who turns 5 years old today. 673 00:23:49,486 --> 00:23:51,886 >> Everybody we saw Happy 674 00:23:54,891 --> 00:23:57,891 birthday. And Austin. You can 675 00:24:10,273 --> 00:24:12,273 have a seat. 676 00:24:42,173 --> 00:24:46,373 >> To put the fan on and get 677 00:24:57,540 --> 00:24:59,540 the hair go. 678 00:25:09,467 --> 00:25:11,467 Okay. Next. 679 00:25:11,469 --> 00:25:12,700 Presentation City of Key West 680 00:25:12,700 --> 00:25:14,470 adaptation plan with Allison 681 00:25:18,710 --> 00:25:22,310 Higgins. Well, it pulls up the 682 00:25:23,140 --> 00:25:23,581 presentation. Allison hands, 683 00:25:23,581 --> 00:25:25,981 resiliency manager. I'm so 684 00:25:26,417 --> 00:25:27,618 excited to be a pair of 685 00:25:27,618 --> 00:25:30,180 representing this plan in 686 00:25:30,321 --> 00:25:30,922 front of the new Assembly. 687 00:25:30,922 --> 00:25:33,322 Some brand-new some returning 688 00:25:35,761 --> 00:25:37,729 and some just swapping seats. 689 00:25:37,729 --> 00:25:38,763 I'm very proud of the input in 690 00:25:38,763 --> 00:25:40,265 this plan. We had 81 local 691 00:25:40,265 --> 00:25:42,533 subject matter. Experts from 692 00:25:42,533 --> 00:25:43,702 across of 52 different 693 00:25:43,702 --> 00:25:46,702 entities that poor their ideas 694 00:25:47,339 --> 00:25:47,873 and their solutions into the 695 00:25:47,873 --> 00:25:50,873 projects that are in this 696 00:25:51,310 --> 00:25:54,310 plan. It the planet salts 697 00:25:54,647 --> 00:25:56,781 helps find funding and 698 00:25:56,781 --> 00:25:58,830 resiliency paths pass towards 699 00:25:58,830 --> 00:26:00,386 resiliency. Not only for city 700 00:26:00,386 --> 00:26:01,253 projects, but also for 701 00:26:01,253 --> 00:26:02,854 residences businesses and 702 00:26:02,854 --> 00:26:05,254 agency partners in community 703 00:26:05,623 --> 00:26:07,927 that further ado, I will turn 704 00:26:07,927 --> 00:26:10,496 it over to our wonder Women ga 705 00:26:10,496 --> 00:26:11,290 ga Aaron and Carly who heard 706 00:26:11,290 --> 00:26:11,597 all the cats and their 707 00:26:11,597 --> 00:26:13,997 solutions into this living 708 00:26:15,601 --> 00:26:16,268 document. Thank you so much. 709 00:26:16,268 --> 00:26:19,868 Good morning. Let's see if I 710 00:26:20,239 --> 00:26:20,840 can get presentation going. 711 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,975 >> My name is George events. 712 00:26:22,975 --> 00:26:23,609 I'm with Tetra Tech and we 713 00:26:23,609 --> 00:26:26,609 have been working with Allison 714 00:26:27,947 --> 00:26:29,315 on this adaptation plan. The 715 00:26:29,315 --> 00:26:29,849 overall project purpose is to 716 00:26:29,849 --> 00:26:31,849 identify opportunities to 717 00:26:33,286 --> 00:26:35,686 become more resilient. To 718 00:26:36,756 --> 00:26:38,123 elevate risks, to measure the 719 00:26:38,123 --> 00:26:40,523 impacts to prioritize efforts 720 00:26:42,195 --> 00:26:42,729 over the next 10 years. 721 00:26:42,729 --> 00:26:44,163 Understand the magnitude 722 00:26:44,163 --> 00:26:44,831 severity and extent of 723 00:26:44,831 --> 00:26:46,733 rainfall, flooding tidal 724 00:26:46,733 --> 00:26:48,235 flooding and future storm 725 00:26:48,235 --> 00:26:50,635 surge and integrate these 726 00:26:52,138 --> 00:26:53,840 measures into existing plans 727 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:54,273 and also to, as Alison 728 00:26:54,273 --> 00:26:54,840 mentioned, focus on 729 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:56,242 identifying future state in 730 00:26:56,242 --> 00:26:57,543 federal grant funding to 731 00:26:57,543 --> 00:26:59,943 ensure those projects get 732 00:27:01,415 --> 00:27:03,450 actually put in place. We 733 00:27:03,450 --> 00:27:05,552 started with the climate 734 00:27:05,552 --> 00:27:06,987 vulnerability assessment. It 735 00:27:06,987 --> 00:27:07,921 looked sea level rise 10, a 736 00:27:07,921 --> 00:27:10,321 flank, storm surge, rainfall 737 00:27:10,723 --> 00:27:13,123 and compound flooding over 3 738 00:27:13,627 --> 00:27:16,270 planning horizon. So today 739 00:27:17,831 --> 00:27:19,733 2040, 2070, 2100 and we looked 740 00:27:19,733 --> 00:27:21,701 at the exposure of critical 741 00:27:21,701 --> 00:27:22,836 assets as well as the 742 00:27:22,836 --> 00:27:23,337 sensitivity how sensitive 743 00:27:23,337 --> 00:27:26,337 those assets are to the 744 00:27:27,941 --> 00:27:29,410 flooding. Here are some apps 745 00:27:29,410 --> 00:27:30,100 that we created for the from 746 00:27:30,100 --> 00:27:32,100 the vulnerability assessment 747 00:27:33,547 --> 00:27:34,548 looking at sea level rise. 748 00:27:34,548 --> 00:27:38,148 Obviously you can see the blue 749 00:27:38,451 --> 00:27:40,488 where it shows some inundation 750 00:27:40,488 --> 00:27:42,888 of different elevations. So 751 00:27:43,290 --> 00:27:46,890 this is present day. We have 752 00:27:47,895 --> 00:27:49,895 2040, 21 2070 2100 where you 753 00:27:50,364 --> 00:27:53,364 can see increases around the 754 00:27:56,270 --> 00:27:58,206 edges of the island. From that 755 00:27:58,206 --> 00:27:59,507 data we identified hotspots 756 00:27:59,507 --> 00:28:00,240 which were concentrations of 757 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:01,843 your assets and where the 758 00:28:01,843 --> 00:28:02,877 flooding is most likely to 759 00:28:02,877 --> 00:28:05,277 occur through those planning 760 00:28:09,817 --> 00:28:10,351 horizons. And we prioritized 761 00:28:10,351 --> 00:28:12,751 projects within those hot 762 00:28:14,556 --> 00:28:17,556 spots for the adaptation plan. 763 00:28:18,860 --> 00:28:20,260 We adaptation plan focuses on 764 00:28:20,260 --> 00:28:21,763 adaptation chapters, power and 765 00:28:21,763 --> 00:28:23,763 Water Infrastructure 766 00:28:25,500 --> 00:28:26,534 Economics, Historic and 767 00:28:26,534 --> 00:28:27,836 Cultural resources, 768 00:28:27,836 --> 00:28:28,637 environmental considerations, 769 00:28:28,637 --> 00:28:29,804 housing and shelter and 770 00:28:29,804 --> 00:28:30,338 Health. So as you can see, 771 00:28:30,338 --> 00:28:31,973 it's a very comprehensive 772 00:28:31,973 --> 00:28:33,674 plan. So we're not just 773 00:28:33,674 --> 00:28:34,242 looking at your assets, your 774 00:28:34,242 --> 00:28:36,242 infrastructure. We're also 775 00:28:36,444 --> 00:28:38,580 looking at how the community 776 00:28:38,580 --> 00:28:39,113 can become more resilient 777 00:28:39,113 --> 00:28:42,113 across all of these focus 778 00:28:46,540 --> 00:28:48,123 areas. So the overarching plan 779 00:28:48,123 --> 00:28:50,523 is to enhance resiliency. 780 00:28:52,327 --> 00:28:53,394 Infrastructure and community. 781 00:28:53,394 --> 00:28:55,394 Protect natural ecosystems. 782 00:28:56,732 --> 00:28:57,266 Look at water resources 783 00:28:57,266 --> 00:28:59,266 safeguard public health, 784 00:28:59,568 --> 00:29:01,437 strengthen economic 785 00:29:01,437 --> 00:29:02,710 resiliency, improve emergency 786 00:29:02,710 --> 00:29:04,471 preparedness, provide safe and 787 00:29:05,407 --> 00:29:06,410 affordable housing. And 788 00:29:06,410 --> 00:29:08,410 incorporate these climate 789 00:29:08,243 --> 00:29:10,243 resiliency actions into 790 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:12,882 existing plans and policy. 791 00:29:12,882 --> 00:29:13,949 Overall, the plan is to 792 00:29:13,949 --> 00:29:15,949 enhance community resiliency. 793 00:29:16,985 --> 00:29:17,786 And this was, as Alison 794 00:29:17,786 --> 00:29:19,655 mentioned, incorporated, a lot 795 00:29:19,655 --> 00:29:22,550 of stakeholder input, public 796 00:29:22,658 --> 00:29:23,158 outreach and a lot of 797 00:29:23,158 --> 00:29:25,158 coordination with other 798 00:29:28,970 --> 00:29:28,663 agencies and entities. So 799 00:29:28,663 --> 00:29:30,633 adaptation strategies have 800 00:29:30,633 --> 00:29:31,233 various categories, including 801 00:29:31,233 --> 00:29:33,233 infrastructure, hardening and 802 00:29:34,203 --> 00:29:35,872 relocation of assets. Green, a 803 00:29:35,872 --> 00:29:37,240 nature based solutions, 804 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:39,240 community education programs 805 00:29:39,976 --> 00:29:41,844 and readiness. Emergency 806 00:29:41,844 --> 00:29:42,344 management planning and then 807 00:29:42,344 --> 00:29:45,344 the land use and policy 808 00:29:47,250 --> 00:29:50,250 guidelines. Just a snapshot of 809 00:29:51,121 --> 00:29:52,454 what's in this adaptation plan 810 00:29:52,454 --> 00:29:56,425 is for fit for the first year 811 00:29:56,425 --> 00:29:57,226 fiscal year. 2027. We have 812 00:29:57,226 --> 00:29:59,626 prioritized the fire station. 813 00:30:01,698 --> 00:30:03,199 Number 3 resiliency, rebuild. 814 00:30:03,199 --> 00:30:03,733 Jose Marti Drive elevation and 815 00:30:03,733 --> 00:30:05,302 storm water improvements. 816 00:30:05,302 --> 00:30:07,702 Weatherizing city bus stops 817 00:30:08,705 --> 00:30:10,705 Stuart Network hardening. 818 00:30:11,708 --> 00:30:12,275 Martin Luther King Pool, 819 00:30:12,275 --> 00:30:12,876 rebuild phone, Ready Avenue 820 00:30:12,876 --> 00:30:14,876 resiliency. Roadway upgrade. 821 00:30:16,412 --> 00:30:17,413 So those are projects. We also 822 00:30:17,413 --> 00:30:19,181 looked at planning and policy 823 00:30:19,181 --> 00:30:21,118 things that could be done. 824 00:30:21,118 --> 00:30:21,718 Actions. So looking at a 825 00:30:21,718 --> 00:30:23,718 citywide building, resiliency 826 00:30:27,157 --> 00:30:28,125 and asset management. Project. 827 00:30:28,125 --> 00:30:28,824 And then initiatives. We're 828 00:30:28,824 --> 00:30:30,824 looking green business 829 00:30:32,395 --> 00:30:32,930 programs, community energy 830 00:30:32,930 --> 00:30:33,530 efficiency, education and 831 00:30:33,530 --> 00:30:35,930 emergency alert outreach and 832 00:30:41,338 --> 00:30:42,840 education. Aaron Di with her 833 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:45,876 own firm is here with me 834 00:30:45,876 --> 00:30:48,446 today. He's helped guide this 835 00:30:48,446 --> 00:30:49,130 plan and ensure that I the 836 00:30:49,130 --> 00:30:49,613 actions that are identified 837 00:30:49,613 --> 00:30:53,213 are not in conflict with any 838 00:30:54,850 --> 00:30:54,651 policy. Our codes also looking 839 00:30:54,651 --> 00:30:55,419 to make improvements to the 840 00:30:55,419 --> 00:30:57,819 policy and codes throughout 841 00:30:59,957 --> 00:31:03,557 the city. Looking at land use 842 00:31:03,895 --> 00:31:04,729 code plus strategies. So how 843 00:31:04,729 --> 00:31:05,228 thanks Kate exceeding the 844 00:31:05,228 --> 00:31:07,628 minimum cuts codes can 845 00:31:08,766 --> 00:31:10,535 actually help residents. 846 00:31:10,535 --> 00:31:12,535 Planning and decision-making 847 00:31:12,837 --> 00:31:14,739 emergency planning management 848 00:31:14,739 --> 00:31:15,673 practices and then policy 849 00:31:15,673 --> 00:31:16,306 reforms updating policy to 850 00:31:16,306 --> 00:31:18,706 support resiliency and Sanibel 851 00:31:20,712 --> 00:31:21,345 sustainability. We have 852 00:31:21,345 --> 00:31:22,746 developed several online tools 853 00:31:22,746 --> 00:31:26,346 if you haven't been to the 854 00:31:27,318 --> 00:31:29,220 adaptation plan website, 855 00:31:29,220 --> 00:31:31,220 there's interactive climate 856 00:31:31,289 --> 00:31:32,490 vulnerability, viewer Flood 857 00:31:32,490 --> 00:31:33,692 reporting tool where residents 858 00:31:33,692 --> 00:31:36,920 or businesses can report 859 00:31:37,529 --> 00:31:38,396 flooding at their location. We 860 00:31:38,396 --> 00:31:38,997 have a project to tracking 861 00:31:38,997 --> 00:31:41,266 dashboard which will take all 862 00:31:41,266 --> 00:31:42,834 of these projects, put him 863 00:31:42,834 --> 00:31:45,834 into a dashboard. Can see 864 00:31:45,837 --> 00:31:46,938 progress over time. It will be 865 00:31:46,938 --> 00:31:47,405 updated regularly. The project 866 00:31:47,405 --> 00:31:49,741 website is Key. West 867 00:31:49,741 --> 00:31:50,275 adaptation plan dot com and 868 00:31:50,275 --> 00:31:53,450 there are a lot of really 869 00:31:53,450 --> 00:31:53,945 great resources there for we 870 00:31:53,945 --> 00:31:56,345 government folks and also 871 00:31:58,917 --> 00:31:59,518 residents. So the next steps 872 00:31:59,518 --> 00:32:01,887 is to finalize the adaptation 873 00:32:01,887 --> 00:32:04,287 plan with that 10 year 874 00:32:06,124 --> 00:32:08,524 implementation road map that 875 00:32:09,161 --> 00:32:10,329 finish that project tracking 876 00:32:10,329 --> 00:32:11,130 dashboard and finalize policy 877 00:32:11,130 --> 00:32:12,463 analysis. We have a public 878 00:32:12,463 --> 00:32:14,863 policy workshop on SEPTEMBER 8 879 00:32:16,735 --> 00:32:17,970 here next Tuesday. So we'll be 880 00:32:17,970 --> 00:32:19,504 back. And then we will wrap up 881 00:32:19,504 --> 00:32:21,207 project completion and OCTOBER 882 00:32:21,207 --> 00:32:23,207 finalize Dollar Grant 883 00:32:25,911 --> 00:32:27,713 Submittals and close out the 884 00:32:27,713 --> 00:32:29,515 project ut today. You don't 885 00:32:29,515 --> 00:32:30,490 have to prove anything or make 886 00:32:30,490 --> 00:32:30,548 any resolutions. We just 887 00:32:30,548 --> 00:32:32,885 wanted to present this 888 00:32:32,885 --> 00:32:34,720 information to you. So you 889 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:35,721 know where it is and it's 890 00:32:35,721 --> 00:32:36,289 available. And with that, I 891 00:32:36,289 --> 00:32:38,624 will take any questions you 892 00:32:38,624 --> 00:32:39,224 MAY have. 893 00:32:39,224 --> 00:32:41,624 >> Any questions from members 894 00:32:44,963 --> 00:32:45,564 of the commission. Hearing? 895 00:32:45,564 --> 00:32:45,998 None. I would just say thank 896 00:32:45,998 --> 00:32:48,330 you so much for the 897 00:32:48,330 --> 00:32:49,168 presentation. I really look 898 00:32:49,168 --> 00:32:50,669 forward to seeing how this 899 00:32:50,669 --> 00:32:53,690 plan integrates with our 900 00:32:53,907 --> 00:32:55,842 strategic plan and some 901 00:32:55,842 --> 00:32:56,409 advisory recommendations from 902 00:32:56,409 --> 00:32:57,677 our sustainability Advisory 903 00:32:57,677 --> 00:33:01,877 board. I hope so. Thank you so 904 00:33:03,916 --> 00:33:05,919 much. Thank you. Okay. That 905 00:33:05,919 --> 00:33:08,210 moves us to the discussion 906 00:33:08,210 --> 00:33:09,956 item area beautification 70800 907 00:33:09,956 --> 00:33:10,923 blocks of Duval Street, murals 908 00:33:10,923 --> 00:33:11,424 and benches. And we do have 909 00:33:11,424 --> 00:33:11,924 public speakers, Jordan 910 00:33:11,924 --> 00:33:14,324 Upchurch and then Sarah 911 00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:24,871 Compton. 912 00:33:24,871 --> 00:33:26,873 >> Good morning, mayor and 913 00:33:26,873 --> 00:33:29,273 commissioners. My name is 914 00:33:29,376 --> 00:33:31,578 Jordan Church and I at 13. 0, 915 00:33:31,578 --> 00:33:32,112 Now street. I'm here today in 916 00:33:32,112 --> 00:33:34,512 support of agenda items. 917 00:33:35,182 --> 00:33:35,716 Number 2.42, more broadly, the 918 00:33:35,716 --> 00:33:38,116 opportunity before us to 919 00:33:38,685 --> 00:33:39,452 recognize and celebrate the 920 00:33:39,452 --> 00:33:41,852 lgbtq+ history of the 70800 921 00:33:42,923 --> 00:33:43,523 blocks of Duval Street. 922 00:33:43,523 --> 00:33:44,291 Commissioner Castillo, I want 923 00:33:44,291 --> 00:33:47,695 to speak directly to you for a 924 00:33:47,695 --> 00:33:49,797 moment. I voted for. I voted 925 00:33:49,797 --> 00:33:50,430 for you. I did that because I 926 00:33:50,430 --> 00:33:51,640 believed you understood 927 00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,640 something incredibly important 928 00:33:53,601 --> 00:33:55,769 about Key West. Our diversity 929 00:33:55,769 --> 00:33:58,471 is one of our greatest 930 00:33:58,471 --> 00:33:59,640 strengths. You represent Palm, 931 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:00,641 a village, a neighborhood 932 00:34:00,641 --> 00:34:01,642 history. Reminds us of why 933 00:34:01,642 --> 00:34:03,642 preserving culture recognizing 934 00:34:03,643 --> 00:34:05,579 the people who become before 935 00:34:05,579 --> 00:34:06,581 us and making sure communities 936 00:34:06,581 --> 00:34:08,981 can see themselves represented 937 00:34:09,817 --> 00:34:11,719 in their own city matters. 938 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,688 That is exactly why I'm asking 939 00:34:13,688 --> 00:34:15,957 you to vote for items. Number 940 00:34:15,957 --> 00:34:17,692 2.42 It is true that the 941 00:34:17,692 --> 00:34:19,494 lgbtq+ history of Key West is 942 00:34:19,494 --> 00:34:21,695 much bigger than 2 blocks of 943 00:34:21,695 --> 00:34:22,229 Duval Street. Our community 944 00:34:22,229 --> 00:34:25,229 has lived, worked to open 945 00:34:25,733 --> 00:34:27,435 businesses created art. 946 00:34:27,435 --> 00:34:28,360 Organizations raise money, 947 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:28,669 welcome visitors and help 948 00:34:28,669 --> 00:34:30,669 shape neighborhoods throughout 949 00:34:31,539 --> 00:34:32,400 this entire island. That was 950 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,400 true decades ago and it 951 00:34:35,743 --> 00:34:37,378 remains true today. But those 952 00:34:37,378 --> 00:34:37,979 blocks have become an 953 00:34:37,979 --> 00:34:39,280 important and highly visible 954 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,249 gathering space for our 955 00:34:41,249 --> 00:34:42,317 community and Duval Street as 956 00:34:42,317 --> 00:34:42,851 one of the main arteries 957 00:34:42,851 --> 00:34:44,418 through which millions of 958 00:34:44,418 --> 00:34:46,818 people experience key West 959 00:34:47,389 --> 00:34:48,489 that visibility matters when a 960 00:34:48,489 --> 00:34:49,958 resident walks down Duval 961 00:34:49,958 --> 00:34:50,559 Street, they should see the 962 00:34:50,559 --> 00:34:52,959 communities that built island 963 00:34:54,228 --> 00:34:55,397 represent there. Visitor comes 964 00:34:55,397 --> 00:34:56,131 to Key West because they have 965 00:34:56,131 --> 00:34:57,265 heard for decades that this is 966 00:34:57,265 --> 00:34:58,100 a place where they can be 967 00:34:58,100 --> 00:35:00,500 themselves. They should be 968 00:35:02,700 --> 00:35:05,700 able to see that story 969 00:35:05,107 --> 00:35:05,741 supporting the lgbtq+ 970 00:35:05,741 --> 00:35:06,341 representation in these blocks 971 00:35:06,341 --> 00:35:08,177 doesn't continue or can find 972 00:35:08,177 --> 00:35:09,244 our history to them. It gives 973 00:35:09,244 --> 00:35:10,946 us a prominent place from 974 00:35:10,946 --> 00:35:12,948 which to begin telling a much 975 00:35:12,948 --> 00:35:13,649 larger story. Item number 2 976 00:35:13,649 --> 00:35:15,550 gives us the opportunity to 977 00:35:15,550 --> 00:35:17,686 support a mural at to one 978 00:35:17,686 --> 00:35:19,521 Duval Street item number. 42 979 00:35:19,521 --> 00:35:20,789 opens the door to murals 980 00:35:20,789 --> 00:35:21,390 benches, banners, historical 981 00:35:21,390 --> 00:35:23,158 markers, public art and other 982 00:35:23,158 --> 00:35:25,930 ways of recognizing that 983 00:35:25,930 --> 00:35:26,862 heritage. I'm not asking you 984 00:35:26,862 --> 00:35:29,131 today to know every detail of 985 00:35:29,131 --> 00:35:29,765 every project we MAY 986 00:35:29,765 --> 00:35:32,765 ultimately create. Talk to the 987 00:35:32,802 --> 00:35:35,771 qs presence killed. Talked to 988 00:35:35,771 --> 00:35:36,806 long-time lgbtq+ residents and 989 00:35:36,806 --> 00:35:37,406 business owners. Doctor 990 00:35:37,406 --> 00:35:39,806 historians ask questions we 991 00:35:41,343 --> 00:35:41,843 will help provide the answers. 992 00:35:41,843 --> 00:35:42,445 But please don't allow 993 00:35:42,445 --> 00:35:44,845 unanswered questions become a 994 00:35:44,913 --> 00:35:46,348 reason for doing nothing. 995 00:35:46,348 --> 00:35:47,883 There is an urgency here with 996 00:35:47,883 --> 00:35:49,452 new state legislation taking 997 00:35:49,452 --> 00:35:49,986 effect JANUARY. First, we have 998 00:35:49,986 --> 00:35:51,587 a limited opportunity to 999 00:35:51,587 --> 00:35:53,623 identify projects that can 1000 00:35:53,623 --> 00:35:55,491 move forward before the end of 1001 00:35:55,491 --> 00:35:56,526 this year, commissioner, 1002 00:35:56,526 --> 00:35:57,560 because the preservation 1003 00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,950 Muhammad diligence history 1004 00:35:59,950 --> 00:36:01,300 matters are Cuban. History 1005 00:36:01,300 --> 00:36:03,300 matters. Iconic history 1006 00:36:03,466 --> 00:36:05,434 matters and our lgbtq+, 1007 00:36:05,434 --> 00:36:06,602 history matters. These 1008 00:36:06,602 --> 00:36:07,202 histories don't compete with 1009 00:36:07,202 --> 00:36:08,300 one. Another history of each 1010 00:36:08,300 --> 00:36:10,272 of these communities is a part 1011 00:36:10,272 --> 00:36:10,873 of Key West history. And 1012 00:36:10,873 --> 00:36:13,873 together they tell the story 1013 00:36:14,770 --> 00:36:17,677 of who we are. Thank And 1014 00:36:23,552 --> 00:36:24,588 Sarah. Good morning, mayor and 1015 00:36:24,588 --> 00:36:26,589 commissioners. I want to speak 1016 00:36:26,589 --> 00:36:27,491 in support of the 1017 00:36:27,491 --> 00:36:29,459 beautification of the 70800 1018 00:36:29,459 --> 00:36:31,528 blocks of Duval Street and 1019 00:36:31,528 --> 00:36:32,362 specifically celebrating the 1020 00:36:32,362 --> 00:36:32,996 lgbtqia plus. 1021 00:36:32,996 --> 00:36:35,996 >> Community in the history of 1022 00:36:36,500 --> 00:36:37,267 our Gaber hood over the past 1023 00:36:37,267 --> 00:36:39,269 10 months, I've spoken with 1024 00:36:39,269 --> 00:36:40,971 hundreds of people in district 1025 00:36:40,971 --> 00:36:41,805 4 and some from some of the 1026 00:36:41,805 --> 00:36:44,805 most conservative, of the most 1027 00:36:44,875 --> 00:36:47,275 progressive and there are 1028 00:36:47,778 --> 00:36:48,745 believe it or not. So many 1029 00:36:48,745 --> 00:36:49,546 issues where nearly everyone 1030 00:36:49,546 --> 00:36:52,546 agrees and this has actually 1031 00:36:53,249 --> 00:36:54,384 been one of them. One of my 1032 00:36:54,384 --> 00:36:56,384 conservative district for 1033 00:36:56,387 --> 00:36:58,289 neighbors probably summed it 1034 00:36:58,289 --> 00:37:00,157 up when he called the effort 1035 00:37:00,157 --> 00:37:00,958 to erase the Gaber hood a 1036 00:37:00,958 --> 00:37:03,358 weird and senselessly nasty 1037 00:37:05,290 --> 00:37:07,430 waste of time. And I agreed 1038 00:37:07,430 --> 00:37:10,133 fully with that. This is key 1039 00:37:10,133 --> 00:37:11,350 West. Our lgbtqia plus 1040 00:37:11,350 --> 00:37:14,350 community. It's part of our 1041 00:37:14,271 --> 00:37:16,671 history. Our culture, our 1042 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:18,800 economy, and who we are 1043 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:18,542 beautifying these blocks and 1044 00:37:18,542 --> 00:37:20,542 celebrating that history 1045 00:37:23,581 --> 00:37:24,615 doesn't take away from anyone. 1046 00:37:24,615 --> 00:37:26,417 It recognizes something that 1047 00:37:26,417 --> 00:37:27,986 is uniquely and proudly key 1048 00:37:27,986 --> 00:37:32,155 West. And I do hope that all 1049 00:37:32,155 --> 00:37:32,757 of you will support Thank you. 1050 00:37:32,757 --> 00:37:34,559 >> Okay. Bringing it back to 1051 00:37:34,559 --> 00:37:35,159 the commission of anyone want 1052 00:37:35,159 --> 00:37:38,159 to speak on this for 1053 00:37:38,629 --> 00:37:39,263 discussion. This is a 1054 00:37:39,263 --> 00:37:41,663 discussion item. We're number. 1055 00:37:44,803 --> 00:37:45,300 42. Commissioner all started 1056 00:37:45,300 --> 00:37:45,570 off. 1057 00:37:45,570 --> 00:37:47,570 >> beautification of Duval 1058 00:37:48,973 --> 00:37:49,574 Street in general is something 1059 00:37:49,574 --> 00:37:51,843 that we've contemplated, you 1060 00:37:51,843 --> 00:37:52,744 know, for quite some time. A 1061 00:37:52,744 --> 00:37:56,348 lot of us went to a lot of 1062 00:37:56,348 --> 00:37:57,249 community meetings about it 1063 00:37:57,249 --> 00:38:00,249 and the Duval Street master 1064 00:38:01,219 --> 00:38:03,121 plan is work shopped and it 1065 00:38:03,121 --> 00:38:04,550 was decided that the number 1066 00:38:04,550 --> 00:38:04,556 one most important item was 1067 00:38:04,556 --> 00:38:06,556 infrastructure. So that 1068 00:38:07,993 --> 00:38:09,600 attention has been focused 1069 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:10,962 away from beautification and 1070 00:38:10,962 --> 00:38:11,730 more toward preventing 1071 00:38:11,730 --> 00:38:14,730 flooding. Duval, what can we 1072 00:38:15,367 --> 00:38:15,934 do? And Stan, the pumps, 1073 00:38:15,934 --> 00:38:17,936 whatever. But I think, you 1074 00:38:17,936 --> 00:38:20,336 know, there's still an 1075 00:38:22,541 --> 00:38:24,910 opportunity do some small 1076 00:38:24,910 --> 00:38:25,511 scale, inexpensive 1077 00:38:25,511 --> 00:38:27,911 beautification efforts on the 1078 00:38:28,460 --> 00:38:29,514 whole length of Duval Street. 1079 00:38:29,514 --> 00:38:33,114 So I'm I'm totally in favor 1080 00:38:34,319 --> 00:38:38,257 of. And it kind of benches or 1081 00:38:38,257 --> 00:38:39,390 our flags are any kind even 1082 00:38:39,390 --> 00:38:39,991 even in favor of a mural at 1083 00:38:39,991 --> 00:38:43,329 this. The first time I heard 1084 00:38:43,329 --> 00:38:45,498 about a mural at 81 Duval 1085 00:38:45,498 --> 00:38:47,898 specifically as the project. 1086 00:38:48,433 --> 00:38:50,403 But I would be in favor of any 1087 00:38:50,403 --> 00:38:51,503 kind of beautification of 1088 00:38:51,503 --> 00:38:54,503 70800 block of Duval and all 1089 00:38:54,773 --> 00:38:55,241 of Duval Street with the 1090 00:38:55,241 --> 00:38:55,842 business community's 1091 00:38:55,842 --> 00:38:56,843 participation. I don't think 1092 00:38:56,843 --> 00:38:59,843 it's something that the city 1093 00:39:01,113 --> 00:39:02,115 should pay for 100%. I think 1094 00:39:02,115 --> 00:39:03,383 it could be a a good 1095 00:39:03,383 --> 00:39:05,783 partnership. And final comment 1096 00:39:07,530 --> 00:39:08,254 is I also want to make sure 1097 00:39:08,254 --> 00:39:09,555 that anything we do regarding 1098 00:39:09,555 --> 00:39:11,123 art in public spaces goes 1099 00:39:11,123 --> 00:39:12,124 through the art in public 1100 00:39:12,124 --> 00:39:15,610 places board. We do have a 1101 00:39:15,610 --> 00:39:15,662 board that's that set up to 1102 00:39:15,662 --> 00:39:17,730 review that kind of thing to 1103 00:39:17,730 --> 00:39:19,599 make recommendations to this 1104 00:39:19,599 --> 00:39:21,601 board. Yes, we have the final 1105 00:39:21,601 --> 00:39:22,202 approval, but I don't think we 1106 00:39:22,202 --> 00:39:24,804 should cut out to the art in 1107 00:39:24,804 --> 00:39:26,239 public places board at any at 1108 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:26,840 any point. Thank Thank you, 1109 00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:28,840 Commissioner Haskell. Anyone 1110 00:39:31,344 --> 00:39:31,978 else? I was just going to make 1111 00:39:31,978 --> 00:39:34,948 the most help. Hold on. Second 1112 00:39:34,948 --> 00:39:36,283 item commissioner. 1113 00:39:36,283 --> 00:39:39,219 >> Thank you. And this is that 1114 00:39:39,219 --> 00:39:39,820 the discussion item, right? 1115 00:39:39,820 --> 00:39:40,988 We're We're on item, 42, but 1116 00:39:40,988 --> 00:39:41,588 there has been mention of the 1117 00:39:41,588 --> 00:39:43,988 mural. So whatever, however, 1118 00:39:45,225 --> 00:39:46,326 you would like present a case. 1119 00:39:46,326 --> 00:39:49,926 And I do have some questions 1120 00:39:52,599 --> 00:39:53,600 for him. Our legal department. 1121 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:54,835 And I guess it's more related 1122 00:39:54,835 --> 00:39:57,835 to number 2 than 42. But since 1123 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:01,275 former Jing them. So how are 1124 00:40:01,275 --> 00:40:04,875 we able to spend public funds 1125 00:40:08,883 --> 00:40:09,515 on private property? I think 1126 00:40:09,515 --> 00:40:10,170 it's okay. Thank you. I 1127 00:40:10,170 --> 00:40:11,152 because I hit the wrong 1128 00:40:11,152 --> 00:40:13,152 button. That's fun. 1129 00:40:14,855 --> 00:40:17,591 >> So of course you're right 1130 00:40:17,591 --> 00:40:18,225 on to the issue, which is 1131 00:40:18,225 --> 00:40:22,425 every dime used them has to be 1132 00:40:22,430 --> 00:40:24,899 for a public purpose. So this 1133 00:40:24,899 --> 00:40:25,832 organization can with your 1134 00:40:25,832 --> 00:40:28,232 direction, make a contribution 1135 00:40:29,803 --> 00:40:30,404 to public art. It has to 1136 00:40:30,404 --> 00:40:31,906 fulfill certain requirements 1137 00:40:31,906 --> 00:40:34,642 to be public has to be 1138 00:40:34,642 --> 00:40:38,242 available to the public has to 1139 00:40:38,413 --> 00:40:38,979 be governed by a public 1140 00:40:38,979 --> 00:40:39,547 process, which both of you 1141 00:40:39,547 --> 00:40:40,882 already mentioned, the art 1142 00:40:40,882 --> 00:40:43,351 board would have to approve 1143 00:40:43,351 --> 00:40:45,186 it. And that has to meet 1144 00:40:45,186 --> 00:40:47,889 certain criteria. So yes, the 1145 00:40:47,889 --> 00:40:49,357 city can contribute too, in 1146 00:40:49,357 --> 00:40:51,558 this case. Again, we're kind 1147 00:40:51,558 --> 00:40:54,558 of merging the concept of 1148 00:40:55,796 --> 00:40:56,531 2.42, but we've been involved. 1149 00:40:56,531 --> 00:40:59,531 Our office has been involved 1150 00:41:01,670 --> 00:41:04,700 in discussions. Frames. This 1151 00:41:05,473 --> 00:41:07,442 resolution is your approval 1152 00:41:07,442 --> 00:41:10,245 donated funds to the business 1153 00:41:10,245 --> 00:41:13,245 skill that will then proceed. 1154 00:41:13,548 --> 00:41:14,116 2 figure out a design. And 1155 00:41:14,116 --> 00:41:17,116 have the design approved by 1156 00:41:18,353 --> 00:41:18,987 the art board and then 1157 00:41:18,987 --> 00:41:21,690 completed. We would hope that 1158 00:41:21,690 --> 00:41:22,391 that's not an absolute 1159 00:41:22,391 --> 00:41:24,391 requirement before JANUARY. 1160 00:41:25,894 --> 00:41:27,463 First, 2027, which is and when 1161 00:41:27,463 --> 00:41:30,265 the new statute goes into 1162 00:41:30,265 --> 00:41:32,101 effect, which says very 1163 00:41:32,101 --> 00:41:35,101 clearly that no public monies 1164 00:41:40,750 --> 00:41:41,943 can be spent. On any sexual 1165 00:41:41,943 --> 00:41:43,943 orientation, gender, race, 1166 00:41:44,913 --> 00:41:46,515 ethnicity, religious issues. 1167 00:41:46,515 --> 00:41:47,115 So the legislature passed that 1168 00:41:47,115 --> 00:41:50,386 legislation. We have a lot of 1169 00:41:50,386 --> 00:41:50,987 discussion about it. Lot of 1170 00:41:50,987 --> 00:41:53,221 people are unhappy about it. 1171 00:41:53,221 --> 00:41:54,523 But what the legislature did 1172 00:41:54,523 --> 00:41:55,925 do was give you this 7 month 1173 00:41:55,925 --> 00:41:59,940 period from the time that it 1174 00:41:59,940 --> 00:42:01,697 was passed and signed by the 1175 00:42:01,697 --> 00:42:02,231 government. The governor 1176 00:42:02,231 --> 00:42:04,631 sorry, too, put public's 1177 00:42:06,690 --> 00:42:08,671 money. To something that might 1178 00:42:08,671 --> 00:42:09,939 otherwise not be allowed by 1179 00:42:09,939 --> 00:42:11,840 the staff. That's a long way 1180 00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:14,377 of saying yes, as long as this 1181 00:42:14,377 --> 00:42:16,279 is for public purpose. Public 1182 00:42:16,279 --> 00:42:18,881 art in a public place, you can 1183 00:42:18,881 --> 00:42:21,281 contribute public money as 1184 00:42:22,819 --> 00:42:23,953 long as you go process. And 1185 00:42:23,953 --> 00:42:24,587 we're satisfied that that 1186 00:42:24,587 --> 00:42:26,987 timetable work. Everyone needs 1187 00:42:27,791 --> 00:42:28,725 to hop to it so that we're 1188 00:42:28,725 --> 00:42:32,325 sure that all of that gets 1189 00:42:33,290 --> 00:42:33,630 done before JANUARY. 1st. But 1190 00:42:33,630 --> 00:42:36,320 the legislature by giving us 1191 00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:39,632 that time period allows the s 1192 00:42:41,638 --> 00:42:42,238 so. Something new long answer 1193 00:42:42,238 --> 00:42:45,238 to your question short answer 1194 00:42:45,909 --> 00:42:50,109 is yes, we can. We can spend 1195 00:42:50,447 --> 00:42:51,480 ran up against a roadblock 1196 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,350 where I wanted to put a cross 1197 00:42:53,350 --> 00:42:53,983 walk for the elderly on that 1198 00:42:53,983 --> 00:42:56,220 property that was told that we 1199 00:42:56,220 --> 00:42:58,220 cannot spend. 1200 00:42:59,355 --> 00:43:00,570 >> Public money, private 1201 00:43:00,570 --> 00:43:00,858 property. 1202 00:43:00,858 --> 00:43:02,858 >> Cross walks are 1203 00:43:03,693 --> 00:43:05,561 additionally regulated. That 1204 00:43:05,561 --> 00:43:06,129 brought another set of 1205 00:43:06,129 --> 00:43:08,998 regulations that we have to 1206 00:43:08,998 --> 00:43:12,598 take into account. So that was 1207 00:43:13,103 --> 00:43:14,771 not just private property. It 1208 00:43:14,771 --> 00:43:15,706 was also the fact that it was 1209 00:43:15,706 --> 00:43:17,240 a crosswalk on a sidewalk. And 1210 00:43:17,240 --> 00:43:20,240 those things are regulated by 1211 00:43:22,279 --> 00:43:23,480 dot state, regulated. But here 1212 00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,183 as long as the art is visible, 1213 00:43:26,183 --> 00:43:27,317 so another thing you sometimes 1214 00:43:27,317 --> 00:43:30,317 is electric junction boxes and 1215 00:43:30,354 --> 00:43:32,623 some communities are painted 1216 00:43:32,623 --> 00:43:34,625 and that's often with public 1217 00:43:34,625 --> 00:43:35,159 process on the private 1218 00:43:35,159 --> 00:43:36,928 property in that it's not 1219 00:43:36,928 --> 00:43:40,528 owned by the city, but it's 1220 00:43:40,765 --> 00:43:41,266 publicly viewed. 1221 00:43:41,266 --> 00:43:43,666 >> Just a couple other 1222 00:43:43,768 --> 00:43:46,168 questions. MISTER Mayor and 1223 00:43:49,274 --> 00:43:50,975 so. We're going to take action 1224 00:43:50,975 --> 00:43:51,509 on the $25,000. But this is 1225 00:43:51,509 --> 00:43:55,109 not gone ipp to get their 1226 00:43:56,470 --> 00:43:56,880 input. First. 1227 00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,280 >> The contribution would be 1228 00:44:00,517 --> 00:44:02,917 contingent upon. The approval 1229 00:44:04,422 --> 00:44:05,560 by our board of the design and 1230 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,656 all the other process is being 1231 00:44:09,894 --> 00:44:10,528 met. And and and policies 1232 00:44:10,528 --> 00:44:12,928 speaking that. So you're 1233 00:44:13,431 --> 00:44:15,700 you're off arising. The 1234 00:44:15,700 --> 00:44:16,200 contribution subject to 1235 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,600 following all of those 1236 00:44:21,506 --> 00:44:22,473 policies. 1237 00:44:22,473 --> 00:44:25,473 >> And then my other question 1238 00:44:26,945 --> 00:44:28,460 is about the benches. How were 1239 00:44:28,460 --> 00:44:28,547 the benches, the rainbow 1240 00:44:28,547 --> 00:44:29,480 benches that are being 1241 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:30,349 discussed? How is that 1242 00:44:30,349 --> 00:44:30,949 different than the rainbow 1243 00:44:30,949 --> 00:44:33,686 bike racks that were not hark 1244 00:44:33,686 --> 00:44:34,186 approved? 1245 00:44:34,186 --> 00:44:36,254 >> Bike rights are also 1246 00:44:36,254 --> 00:44:38,423 regulated by dot the benches 1247 00:44:38,423 --> 00:44:42,623 or not inches or not and not 1248 00:44:43,161 --> 00:44:43,662 regulated by heart. If it's 1249 00:44:43,662 --> 00:44:46,662 public are it should be 1250 00:44:52,771 --> 00:44:53,238 regulated by the our port. 1251 00:44:53,238 --> 00:44:55,638 >> Anyone else on the 1252 00:44:55,974 --> 00:44:56,542 commission to Vice Mayor Lee, 1253 00:44:56,542 --> 00:45:00,120 I just like to say that I'm 1254 00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,481 glad that the law. It's going 1255 00:45:02,481 --> 00:45:03,490 allow us to do this and I'm 1256 00:45:03,490 --> 00:45:06,649 kind of glad it hasn't gone 1257 00:45:08,720 --> 00:45:09,921 into effect yet. So I'm happy 1258 00:45:09,921 --> 00:45:10,389 that this is going to happen 1259 00:45:10,389 --> 00:45:13,126 and I look forward to 1260 00:45:13,126 --> 00:45:15,526 supporting. Thank you for 1261 00:45:16,129 --> 00:45:17,960 Merely a commissioner mascot. 1262 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,999 I just want to come at this 1263 00:45:20,999 --> 00:45:22,135 from economic standpoint and I 1264 00:45:22,135 --> 00:45:23,636 was watching the YouTube video 1265 00:45:23,636 --> 00:45:26,306 a few weeks ago. It was the 1266 00:45:26,306 --> 00:45:27,140 top 5 small town lgbtq 1267 00:45:27,140 --> 00:45:28,274 friendly. 1268 00:45:28,274 --> 00:45:28,808 >> And America and Qs wasn't 1269 00:45:28,808 --> 00:45:31,808 mentioned and it broke my 1270 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:36,149 heart. And you know from 1271 00:45:36,149 --> 00:45:38,151 economically we are in the 1272 00:45:38,151 --> 00:45:38,752 business of making people 1273 00:45:38,752 --> 00:45:39,419 happy. We are in the business 1274 00:45:39,419 --> 00:45:41,419 entertaining people. And 1275 00:45:42,489 --> 00:45:44,223 that's our collective job. And 1276 00:45:44,223 --> 00:45:45,692 I think the removal of the 1277 00:45:45,692 --> 00:45:49,292 cross walks while I will use 1278 00:45:49,696 --> 00:45:52,960 the quote, senselessly, nasty 1279 00:45:52,998 --> 00:45:55,569 a waste of time. It is what it 1280 00:45:55,569 --> 00:45:56,670 is. And this is a great way to 1281 00:45:56,670 --> 00:45:57,237 to honor that. So I'm looking 1282 00:45:57,237 --> 00:45:57,838 forward to supporting this 1283 00:45:57,838 --> 00:46:01,410 item to thank you. Thank you, 1284 00:46:01,410 --> 00:46:03,410 Commissioner. Commissioner 1285 00:46:04,278 --> 00:46:06,278 Ross their 1286 00:46:07,247 --> 00:46:07,781 >> MR. Just a few like to 1287 00:46:07,781 --> 00:46:10,781 answered. How big use the 1288 00:46:11,484 --> 00:46:12,219 mural that's going down there. 1289 00:46:12,219 --> 00:46:12,820 And also what is the mural? Do 1290 00:46:12,820 --> 00:46:15,820 we know exactly what the 1291 00:46:16,790 --> 00:46:17,358 artwork is or are we just 1292 00:46:17,358 --> 00:46:19,326 voting on something saying, 1293 00:46:19,326 --> 00:46:20,930 ok, you're going to put it up. 1294 00:46:20,930 --> 00:46:23,597 I would like to see what's 1295 00:46:23,597 --> 00:46:24,431 going up on that wall. I have 1296 00:46:24,431 --> 00:46:26,367 no problem with it whatsoever. 1297 00:46:26,367 --> 00:46:29,367 Want to make perfectly clear. 1298 00:46:29,402 --> 00:46:30,370 But I like to see who liked 1299 00:46:30,370 --> 00:46:32,873 going on that wall and how big 1300 00:46:32,873 --> 00:46:34,873 it is. 1301 00:46:35,810 --> 00:46:37,177 >> think my understanding just 1302 00:46:37,177 --> 00:46:37,812 a share with you, says that 1303 00:46:37,812 --> 00:46:41,412 there is no design it. Going 1304 00:46:41,816 --> 00:46:42,349 to be a contest. A contest to 1305 00:46:42,349 --> 00:46:44,349 solicit applications from 1306 00:46:45,153 --> 00:46:45,753 local artists. And then that 1307 00:46:45,753 --> 00:46:48,153 would be approved ultimately 1308 00:46:51,226 --> 00:46:52,527 by a ipp. Our board, the art 1309 00:46:52,527 --> 00:46:53,610 board so I believe would 1310 00:46:53,610 --> 00:46:53,594 select or they would be a 1311 00:46:53,594 --> 00:46:55,994 process with the business 1312 00:46:57,232 --> 00:46:57,865 killed. The business killed, I 1313 00:46:57,865 --> 00:46:58,433 think would be selecting maybe 1314 00:46:58,433 --> 00:47:01,769 in the contest. Is that how 1315 00:47:01,769 --> 00:47:02,370 it's working? And I I think 1316 00:47:02,370 --> 00:47:03,704 there's been discussion of a 1317 00:47:03,704 --> 00:47:04,380 contest. That's not a legal 1318 00:47:04,380 --> 00:47:06,380 issue except. 1319 00:47:07,909 --> 00:47:08,410 >> And if the contest extends 1320 00:47:08,410 --> 00:47:10,844 our time frame, want to 1321 00:47:10,844 --> 00:47:13,244 conservative about that. But 1322 00:47:13,782 --> 00:47:15,817 to address Commissioner Ross 1323 00:47:15,817 --> 00:47:16,451 ease point the process is that 1324 00:47:16,451 --> 00:47:17,152 the design would be developed 1325 00:47:17,152 --> 00:47:19,552 as commissioner. However, they 1326 00:47:21,890 --> 00:47:22,900 choose to develop that design. 1327 00:47:22,900 --> 00:47:24,580 It will go to the Arbor Day. 1328 00:47:24,580 --> 00:47:25,326 Our board will hear the 1329 00:47:25,326 --> 00:47:26,761 discussion take public input 1330 00:47:26,761 --> 00:47:28,730 and then we'll come back to 1331 00:47:28,730 --> 00:47:31,433 you for approval of that 1332 00:47:31,433 --> 00:47:33,680 design. So, yes, you are 1333 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:34,569 proving conceptually 1334 00:47:34,569 --> 00:47:35,603 supporting it, but you're not 1335 00:47:35,603 --> 00:47:38,300 improving the designed by 1336 00:47:38,340 --> 00:47:40,740 approving this agenda. I. 1337 00:47:42,377 --> 00:47:44,246 >> saw that makes sense to You 1338 00:47:44,246 --> 00:47:45,647 know, they're going to make a 1339 00:47:45,647 --> 00:47:48,116 motion or where I do. I want 1340 00:47:48,116 --> 00:47:49,618 to make a motion. And like I 1341 00:47:49,618 --> 00:47:50,386 say, there's longtime overdue 1342 00:47:50,386 --> 00:47:50,986 since they when we need to 1343 00:47:50,986 --> 00:47:51,587 first finished the discussion 1344 00:47:51,587 --> 00:47:54,957 item and then we'll come back 1345 00:47:54,957 --> 00:47:58,557 to But even still. Ever since 1346 00:47:58,593 --> 00:47:59,261 the rules been removed. I 1347 00:47:59,261 --> 00:48:02,261 mean, it doesn't even feel 1348 00:48:02,298 --> 00:48:04,100 right in the neighborhood. So 1349 00:48:04,100 --> 00:48:07,870 I get a sense emptiness when I 1350 00:48:07,870 --> 00:48:08,571 they on that corner. So and 1351 00:48:08,571 --> 00:48:10,239 like I say, it's something put 1352 00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:12,408 back. There would be 1353 00:48:12,408 --> 00:48:14,477 magnificent in falls us being 1354 00:48:14,477 --> 00:48:15,110 on the national registry. 1355 00:48:15,110 --> 00:48:17,411 Everybody knows Key West 1356 00:48:23,152 --> 00:48:23,786 friendly. 1, human family. 1357 00:48:23,786 --> 00:48:26,389 Maybe day. It was an oversight 1358 00:48:26,389 --> 00:48:28,524 about lgbt community. But I'm 1359 00:48:28,524 --> 00:48:30,560 almost certain everywhere in 1360 00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:32,428 the world. Remember Key West 1361 00:48:32,428 --> 00:48:33,329 and then we've got the most 1362 00:48:33,329 --> 00:48:34,963 make this magnificent event 1363 00:48:34,963 --> 00:48:36,199 getting ready to take place in 1364 00:48:36,199 --> 00:48:39,199 OCTOBER, going to in Fantasy 1365 00:48:40,837 --> 00:48:44,741 Fest. We on the mat. If I MAY 1366 00:48:44,741 --> 00:48:45,675 just mayor say all of us. 1367 00:48:45,675 --> 00:48:46,242 >> Sometimes are in the know 1368 00:48:46,242 --> 00:48:48,642 business because that's the 1369 00:48:49,579 --> 00:48:50,547 year that we take. And 1370 00:48:50,547 --> 00:48:51,148 certainly for our office some 1371 00:48:51,148 --> 00:48:54,518 days it feels like all we do 1372 00:48:54,518 --> 00:48:57,153 is say now and we don't this 1373 00:48:57,153 --> 00:48:58,487 is a little bit of a rare 1374 00:48:58,487 --> 00:49:01,487 opportunity that all of us 1375 00:49:02,225 --> 00:49:03,593 have. And to be fair, the 1376 00:49:03,593 --> 00:49:04,126 Legislature did give that time 1377 00:49:04,126 --> 00:49:06,129 period them. And I think 1378 00:49:06,129 --> 00:49:06,963 that's worth acknowledging. So 1379 00:49:06,963 --> 00:49:08,298 it gives us a chance to say, 1380 00:49:08,298 --> 00:49:11,898 yes, we otherwise have to say 1381 00:49:13,402 --> 00:49:15,400 no. 1382 00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:17,600 >> if U.S. This I want 1383 00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,600 actually we list this year. 1384 00:49:20,177 --> 00:49:21,450 >> Like to hear from if we 1385 00:49:21,450 --> 00:49:22,379 could. 1386 00:49:22,379 --> 00:49:24,214 >> Well, we can, when we do 1387 00:49:24,214 --> 00:49:24,847 that, we have item number 2, 1388 00:49:24,847 --> 00:49:26,317 specifically to the mural. But 1389 00:49:26,317 --> 00:49:28,484 I just want to wrap up the 1390 00:49:28,484 --> 00:49:31,870 discussion item. I agree with 1391 00:49:31,870 --> 00:49:31,722 Paul, all the comments and I 1392 00:49:31,722 --> 00:49:34,122 really appreciate the positive 1393 00:49:34,158 --> 00:49:35,393 attitude of this commission 1394 00:49:35,393 --> 00:49:36,293 with respect to What we're 1395 00:49:36,293 --> 00:49:38,796 trying to do I want to tell 1396 00:49:38,796 --> 00:49:39,330 each one of you that I think 1397 00:49:39,330 --> 00:49:40,698 this is sending the right 1398 00:49:40,698 --> 00:49:43,698 message to our community and 1399 00:49:44,340 --> 00:49:44,635 it's important right now. The 1400 00:49:44,635 --> 00:49:48,235 people know that that how we 1401 00:49:48,472 --> 00:49:49,730 feel about this and I want to 1402 00:49:49,730 --> 00:49:51,342 say that as far as the larger 1403 00:49:51,342 --> 00:49:52,977 issues on Wall Street, we're 1404 00:49:52,977 --> 00:49:54,110 well what we're going to 1405 00:49:54,110 --> 00:49:54,746 tackle that. There's some 1406 00:49:54,746 --> 00:49:55,279 people question. What about 1407 00:49:55,279 --> 00:49:57,382 the rest of Duval Street? 1408 00:49:57,382 --> 00:49:58,583 We're going to get to that. 1409 00:49:58,583 --> 00:49:59,283 But this is these are the 2 1410 00:49:59,283 --> 00:50:02,283 blocks that had the tremendous 1411 00:50:04,322 --> 00:50:06,223 loss in the last year I'm 1412 00:50:06,223 --> 00:50:06,723 going to lean heavily on 1413 00:50:06,723 --> 00:50:07,458 Commissioner Rossi with 1414 00:50:07,458 --> 00:50:08,920 respect to the rest of Duval 1415 00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:10,261 Street. So I want to hear from 1416 00:50:10,261 --> 00:50:12,797 you, c really hope we can 1417 00:50:12,797 --> 00:50:15,197 start with garbage cans 1418 00:50:16,101 --> 00:50:17,134 because are in place those 1419 00:50:17,134 --> 00:50:18,369 garbage or get to that? Got to 1420 00:50:18,369 --> 00:50:18,703 tell you're right on the 1421 00:50:18,703 --> 00:50:20,703 money. Mayor. 1422 00:50:20,739 --> 00:50:23,739 >> The trash cans right now 1423 00:50:23,975 --> 00:50:26,812 changes are broke. Need to be 1424 00:50:26,812 --> 00:50:28,847 cleaned and Nate, we needed 1425 00:50:28,847 --> 00:50:29,948 that says, Oh, man, you're 1426 00:50:29,948 --> 00:50:31,349 right. OCTOBER OCTOBER, it's 1427 00:50:31,349 --> 00:50:34,190 on garbage case. We got we 1428 00:50:34,190 --> 00:50:35,120 have to. But getting back to 1429 00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:36,887 why why these 2 items are on 1430 00:50:36,887 --> 00:50:37,456 the agenda is because of the 1431 00:50:37,456 --> 00:50:38,689 urgency. That commissioner 1432 00:50:38,689 --> 00:50:39,223 mean Vice Mayor Lee just 1433 00:50:39,223 --> 00:50:39,958 mentioned. 1434 00:50:39,958 --> 00:50:41,526 >> Because of our deadline 1435 00:50:41,526 --> 00:50:43,926 fast approaching on JANUARY 1436 00:50:44,596 --> 00:50:45,263 one. So I really appreciate 1437 00:50:45,263 --> 00:50:45,963 your support. With that, let's 1438 00:50:45,963 --> 00:50:49,563 move on to item number 2. Is 1439 00:50:49,834 --> 00:50:51,737 that okay, MADAM? Resolutions 1440 00:50:51,737 --> 00:50:53,572 item number 2 recommending to 1441 00:50:53,572 --> 00:50:54,206 the art in public places board 1442 00:50:54,206 --> 00:50:56,442 for its consideration. The use 1443 00:50:56,442 --> 00:50:58,577 ipp funds in an amount. 1444 00:50:58,577 --> 00:50:59,144 >> Not to exceed $25,000 to be 1445 00:50:59,144 --> 00:51:01,544 contributed toward a public 1446 00:51:02,447 --> 00:51:03,480 art installation to be placed 1447 00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,183 at 801 Duval Street celebrate 1448 00:51:05,183 --> 00:51:07,219 in Key West lgbtq+ history and 1449 00:51:07,219 --> 00:51:08,187 culture directing the city 1450 00:51:08,187 --> 00:51:08,753 manager to transmit district 1451 00:51:08,753 --> 00:51:10,756 recommendation to Ipp board 1452 00:51:10,756 --> 00:51:12,756 for its consideration, 1453 00:51:13,225 --> 00:51:13,960 providing that the 1454 00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:14,427 contribution and the artwork 1455 00:51:14,427 --> 00:51:16,827 shall comply with all 1456 00:51:18,263 --> 00:51:18,864 applicable laws. Providing 1457 00:51:18,864 --> 00:51:21,533 that the artwork shall comply 1458 00:51:21,533 --> 00:51:22,340 with all city processes and 1459 00:51:22,340 --> 00:51:22,568 procedures for approval 1460 00:51:22,568 --> 00:51:23,535 providing that following 1461 00:51:23,535 --> 00:51:24,136 receipt of the donation. The 1462 00:51:24,136 --> 00:51:26,380 city shall not be responsible 1463 00:51:26,380 --> 00:51:26,772 for the allocation of any 1464 00:51:26,772 --> 00:51:29,172 funds for the maintenance 1465 00:51:30,143 --> 00:51:30,643 repair or other. Keep up. Keep 1466 00:51:30,643 --> 00:51:33,643 the artwork on or after 1467 00:51:35,281 --> 00:51:36,282 JANUARY. First 2027. 1468 00:51:36,282 --> 00:51:36,848 >> Given Commissioner Carey 1469 00:51:36,848 --> 00:51:39,180 suggestion, can we ask MISS 1470 00:51:39,180 --> 00:51:39,585 Liz Young to come forward? 1471 00:51:39,585 --> 00:51:42,585 Share her thoughts on this 1472 00:51:51,665 --> 00:51:52,965 item. Please. Good morning, 1473 00:51:52,965 --> 00:51:54,233 Liz. Young, 7.11, Francis 1474 00:51:54,233 --> 00:51:54,767 Street on your public art 1475 00:51:54,767 --> 00:51:55,268 administrator. 1476 00:51:55,268 --> 00:51:57,668 >> Happy to answer any 1477 00:51:59,873 --> 00:52:00,439 questions. 1478 00:52:00,439 --> 00:52:02,375 >> Commissioner Carey have 1479 00:52:02,375 --> 00:52:06,460 questions I did want to ask. I 1480 00:52:06,460 --> 00:52:06,580 spoke with my appointee and I 1481 00:52:06,580 --> 00:52:09,216 she's the CHAIRMAN Of the 1482 00:52:09,216 --> 00:52:10,583 board and I guess she wasn't 1483 00:52:10,583 --> 00:52:13,587 to up to speed on this Ipp 1484 00:52:13,587 --> 00:52:14,821 hasn't heard much about it. 1485 00:52:14,821 --> 00:52:17,157 Think the last that she Ipp 1486 00:52:17,157 --> 00:52:19,860 had a discussion about was the 1487 00:52:19,860 --> 00:52:21,495 arch at which point an ipp 1488 00:52:21,495 --> 00:52:25,950 felt that the arch was signage 1489 00:52:26,300 --> 00:52:29,168 and not so much. Art. And so 1490 00:52:29,168 --> 00:52:30,103 wasn't in favor of the arch 1491 00:52:30,103 --> 00:52:32,273 concept, perhaps we're looking 1492 00:52:32,273 --> 00:52:34,673 for something different. So 1493 00:52:35,242 --> 00:52:36,277 can you maybe speak to that a 1494 00:52:36,277 --> 00:52:37,278 little bit? 1495 00:52:37,278 --> 00:52:38,780 >> I'm happy to. We've had 1496 00:52:38,780 --> 00:52:40,478 many meetings about the 1497 00:52:40,981 --> 00:52:43,830 removal of the crosswalks. I 1498 00:52:43,830 --> 00:52:45,483 had several meetings Mayor 1499 00:52:45,653 --> 00:52:46,821 Henriquez. We met with the 1500 00:52:46,821 --> 00:52:49,821 business killed and then we've 1501 00:52:50,791 --> 00:52:52,126 had presentations Ipp. The 1502 00:52:52,126 --> 00:52:53,727 last I heard I wrote an rfp 1503 00:52:53,727 --> 00:52:54,996 and it made it all the way to 1504 00:52:54,996 --> 00:52:57,996 MISS Harden's office. And then 1505 00:52:58,660 --> 00:53:02,300 it was set aside is down said 1506 00:53:02,300 --> 00:53:02,603 that it would violate the new 1507 00:53:02,603 --> 00:53:04,605 law that's going into effect. 1508 00:53:04,605 --> 00:53:05,206 So it was set aside, 1509 00:53:05,206 --> 00:53:06,908 unfortunately, I mean, no one 1510 00:53:06,908 --> 00:53:09,908 wanted that result. But that 1511 00:53:10,678 --> 00:53:12,447 was what we heard. The only 1512 00:53:12,447 --> 00:53:13,514 thing is that I opened up the 1513 00:53:13,514 --> 00:53:14,115 agenda on Monday morning in my 1514 00:53:14,115 --> 00:53:16,584 office and said, oh, this is 1515 00:53:16,584 --> 00:53:18,686 near. We had not heard about 1516 00:53:18,686 --> 00:53:20,255 this. I mean, obviously the 1517 00:53:20,255 --> 00:53:20,822 board labs public are we want 1518 00:53:20,822 --> 00:53:22,257 more are died. Put are done 1519 00:53:22,257 --> 00:53:25,627 every block. If you know, we 1520 00:53:25,627 --> 00:53:28,163 could afford it. I'm not sure. 1521 00:53:28,163 --> 00:53:30,899 The $25,000 one is enough for 1522 00:53:30,899 --> 00:53:31,500 mural and to be perfectly 1523 00:53:31,500 --> 00:53:32,670 frank, we don't use the word 1524 00:53:32,670 --> 00:53:33,468 contest. I can remember who 1525 00:53:33,468 --> 00:53:35,737 just said it. It would be a 1526 00:53:35,737 --> 00:53:38,137 call for proposals. Anybody 1527 00:53:38,807 --> 00:53:41,807 would be eligible. We would 1528 00:53:41,977 --> 00:53:44,790 obviously love to have that 1529 00:53:44,790 --> 00:53:46,148 those funds stay, but anybody 1530 00:53:46,148 --> 00:53:46,814 could apply. I don't know who 1531 00:53:46,814 --> 00:53:49,214 owns the building at 801, 1532 00:53:49,484 --> 00:53:50,752 honestly, I haven't done much 1533 00:53:50,752 --> 00:53:51,353 research, but actually what it 1534 00:53:51,353 --> 00:53:54,353 comes down to a Commissioner 1535 00:53:55,230 --> 00:53:56,859 Haskell. And I knowing all of 1536 00:53:56,859 --> 00:53:57,459 the art in public places rules 1537 00:53:57,459 --> 00:53:59,859 and ordinances, but actually 1538 00:54:00,396 --> 00:54:01,697 murals go to hark. They don't 1539 00:54:01,697 --> 00:54:04,667 even come to art in public 1540 00:54:04,667 --> 00:54:07,670 places. Hark give the 1541 00:54:08,403 --> 00:54:10,403 proposed. Business owner. 1542 00:54:13,642 --> 00:54:14,420 Whoever wants to do the mural 1543 00:54:14,420 --> 00:54:14,677 a certificate of 1544 00:54:14,677 --> 00:54:16,780 appropriateness and then it 1545 00:54:16,780 --> 00:54:16,946 actually comes right to the 1546 00:54:16,946 --> 00:54:19,682 commission. It's one of those 1547 00:54:19,682 --> 00:54:22,820 things we've discussed. Staff 1548 00:54:23,218 --> 00:54:26,218 has discussed often with with 1549 00:54:26,355 --> 00:54:27,589 Kendall and her staff, MR. 1550 00:54:27,589 --> 00:54:29,258 Dunn staff about why the 1551 00:54:29,258 --> 00:54:29,859 murals skip a ipp. But 1552 00:54:29,859 --> 00:54:32,259 actually that's that's what's 1553 00:54:32,527 --> 00:54:33,950 happening right now. It could 1554 00:54:33,950 --> 00:54:36,695 change. I'm happy to have a 1555 00:54:38,330 --> 00:54:39,769 change. It just to let you 1556 00:54:39,769 --> 00:54:40,937 know, looks like the legal 1557 00:54:40,937 --> 00:54:42,906 department wants chime in 1558 00:54:42,906 --> 00:54:44,674 MISTER Mayor, if I can clarify 1559 00:54:44,674 --> 00:54:45,408 just for that and and not to 1560 00:54:45,408 --> 00:54:48,311 correctly, this would not be a 1561 00:54:48,311 --> 00:54:49,812 city project specifically. 1562 00:54:49,812 --> 00:54:51,413 >> rfp would not go out from 1563 00:54:51,413 --> 00:54:53,830 the city. Is this will be 1564 00:54:53,830 --> 00:54:53,682 handled by the business killed 1565 00:54:53,682 --> 00:54:55,218 itself. So that's why it was 1566 00:54:55,218 --> 00:54:55,785 mentioned it would be a 1567 00:54:55,785 --> 00:54:58,785 contest. This would just be 1568 00:55:00,889 --> 00:55:01,491 and asked to use ipp funding 1569 00:55:01,491 --> 00:55:02,792 to place towards this public 1570 00:55:02,792 --> 00:55:03,326 display of art that that is 1571 00:55:03,326 --> 00:55:05,694 going to be handled by an 1572 00:55:05,694 --> 00:55:06,862 outside entity. Correct? 1573 00:55:06,862 --> 00:55:08,565 Correct. This is just a 1574 00:55:08,565 --> 00:55:09,833 contribution by the city 1575 00:55:09,833 --> 00:55:11,601 towards that project. Think 1576 00:55:11,601 --> 00:55:12,202 could could the resolution 1577 00:55:12,202 --> 00:55:12,802 then state that the business 1578 00:55:12,802 --> 00:55:15,338 killed is running it and not 1579 00:55:15,338 --> 00:55:16,540 Ipp? 1580 00:55:16,540 --> 00:55:17,941 >> And then of course, I will 1581 00:55:17,941 --> 00:55:20,177 put it on the agenda as an 1582 00:55:20,177 --> 00:55:22,112 action item are meeting. Is 1583 00:55:22,112 --> 00:55:23,847 SEPTEMBER 16th and it will be 1584 00:55:23,847 --> 00:55:24,648 up to your appointees. I I 1585 00:55:24,648 --> 00:55:27,784 don't have a So I'm happy to 1586 00:55:27,784 --> 00:55:30,721 put it on the agenda. For your 1587 00:55:30,721 --> 00:55:32,756 appointees on SEPTEMBER. 16th. 1588 00:55:32,756 --> 00:55:33,657 But whatever the business 1589 00:55:33,657 --> 00:55:35,590 kilda's, what then actually go 1590 00:55:35,590 --> 00:55:38,829 to hark and not to is the way 1591 00:55:38,829 --> 00:55:39,430 I understand it. Thank you. 1592 00:55:39,430 --> 00:55:40,798 And yes, and that is correct 1593 00:55:40,798 --> 00:55:41,130 as well. It would go to heart 1594 00:55:41,130 --> 00:55:42,833 for approval. 1595 00:55:42,833 --> 00:55:45,469 >> And then come from heart to 1596 00:55:45,469 --> 00:55:46,103 you all. But I'm a ipp with 1597 00:55:46,103 --> 00:55:46,670 the contribution of the funds. 1598 00:55:46,670 --> 00:55:48,906 Absolutely. Can, you know, 1599 00:55:48,906 --> 00:55:50,373 make some suggestions as as 1600 00:55:50,373 --> 00:55:51,909 well. The reason it goes day 1601 00:55:51,909 --> 00:55:55,509 at Pps because we're asking to 1602 00:55:56,130 --> 00:55:57,882 use in lieu fifa that get paid 1603 00:55:57,882 --> 00:55:58,983 into If someone does not want 1604 00:55:58,983 --> 00:56:00,450 to do the display of public 1605 00:56:00,450 --> 00:56:02,120 art on their property when 1606 00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:02,920 they have major development 1607 00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,889 plan, they pay a one percent 1608 00:56:05,889 --> 00:56:06,490 fee to the city. And that's 1609 00:56:06,490 --> 00:56:09,490 what we're asking those funds 1610 00:56:09,727 --> 00:56:10,328 to come from. 1611 00:56:10,328 --> 00:56:12,363 >> Thank you again. That was 1612 00:56:12,363 --> 00:56:12,963 my error. I misspoke. So there 1613 00:56:12,963 --> 00:56:16,670 will be approval and you will 1614 00:56:16,670 --> 00:56:16,668 have an opportunity to look 1615 00:56:16,668 --> 00:56:17,368 what the art board has to do 1616 00:56:17,368 --> 00:56:19,237 is approve the allocation of 1617 00:56:19,237 --> 00:56:21,637 the funds for the 1618 00:56:21,906 --> 00:56:23,808 contribution. Thank you for 1619 00:56:23,808 --> 00:56:24,876 the clarification. Just want 1620 00:56:24,876 --> 00:56:26,810 to reemphasize what vice 1621 00:56:26,810 --> 00:56:28,790 merely said earlier in the 1622 00:56:28,790 --> 00:56:30,214 urgency that this process get 1623 00:56:30,214 --> 00:56:30,849 done before JANUARY one. 1624 00:56:30,849 --> 00:56:33,849 >> And we're now we're talking 1625 00:56:33,952 --> 00:56:36,654 about 2 boards. So we want to 1626 00:56:36,654 --> 00:56:39,240 make sure that the direction 1627 00:56:39,240 --> 00:56:39,624 is clear ipp and heart that 1628 00:56:39,624 --> 00:56:42,994 this needs to be done within 1629 00:56:42,994 --> 00:56:44,496 the time for it. And we can do 1630 00:56:44,496 --> 00:56:46,896 some parallel approvals. And 1631 00:56:47,566 --> 00:56:48,660 Vice Mayor Lee, I was going to 1632 00:56:48,660 --> 00:56:50,135 say with that sense of 1633 00:56:50,135 --> 00:56:53,135 urgency, a move for approval. 1634 00:56:53,371 --> 00:56:56,971 I second. Okay, a second. Vice 1635 00:56:57,208 --> 00:56:57,909 Mayor Lee moves Commissioner 1636 00:56:57,909 --> 00:57:00,909 Chrystia seconds is a morning 1637 00:57:00,979 --> 00:57:02,147 session. Discussions does, of 1638 00:57:02,147 --> 00:57:04,115 one of the very important 1639 00:57:04,115 --> 00:57:04,816 question putting until one do 1640 00:57:04,816 --> 00:57:07,816 we have the permission from 1641 00:57:08,287 --> 00:57:08,921 the building owner? 1642 00:57:08,921 --> 00:57:12,424 >> And there are they aware of 1643 00:57:12,424 --> 00:57:13,425 this just to find this out? I 1644 00:57:13,425 --> 00:57:14,260 we're probably moving fast 1645 00:57:14,260 --> 00:57:17,263 year, guys and I want to get 1646 00:57:17,263 --> 00:57:17,896 it done too. But do we have 1647 00:57:17,896 --> 00:57:20,896 the permission? I believe that 1648 00:57:21,100 --> 00:57:22,668 Joe Judge orders building. 1649 00:57:22,668 --> 00:57:25,668 He's right here. Some looks 1650 00:57:28,641 --> 00:57:30,641 like, Joe. 1651 00:57:30,710 --> 00:57:33,713 >> look at that for you, thank 1652 00:57:33,713 --> 00:57:36,615 you, for on that. So you'll 1653 00:57:36,615 --> 00:57:37,750 hear from from the business 1654 00:57:37,750 --> 00:57:38,451 killed. We'll bring forward 1655 00:57:38,451 --> 00:57:39,251 whatever they propose for the 1656 00:57:39,251 --> 00:57:41,251 mural. 1657 00:57:43,723 --> 00:57:44,357 >> Okay. More discussion. So 1658 00:57:44,357 --> 00:57:44,891 what MISTER Mayor, Division or 1659 00:57:44,891 --> 00:57:47,891 care? Thank you. Just for 1660 00:57:48,361 --> 00:57:51,361 clarity. So this resolution is 1661 00:57:51,964 --> 00:57:55,564 simply to urge a ipp. To 1662 00:57:55,602 --> 00:57:56,236 consider the $25,000 donation 1663 00:57:56,236 --> 00:58:00,436 to think of his new skill. But 1664 00:58:00,773 --> 00:58:02,709 Ipp is out. And then that 1665 00:58:02,709 --> 00:58:03,310 falls to the business killed 1666 00:58:03,310 --> 00:58:07,510 to vote on or have a contest 1667 00:58:08,682 --> 00:58:10,350 to make a decision and 1668 00:58:10,350 --> 00:58:10,984 >> Will you go? She was to 1669 00:58:10,984 --> 00:58:11,551 marry the 2. Yes. Commissioner 1670 00:58:11,551 --> 00:58:14,287 who want to make sure that 1671 00:58:14,287 --> 00:58:17,223 time is of the essence. So we 1672 00:58:17,223 --> 00:58:19,492 need to not get bogged down in 1673 00:58:19,492 --> 00:58:21,892 bureaucracy. Let's get it 1674 00:58:22,462 --> 00:58:23,496 moving forward and moving Add 1675 00:58:23,496 --> 00:58:25,198 one quick question, MISTER 1676 00:58:25,198 --> 00:58:25,766 Basket, does it? Does this 1677 00:58:25,766 --> 00:58:27,367 mural have to be completed 1678 00:58:27,367 --> 00:58:27,968 before the end of the year or 1679 00:58:27,968 --> 00:58:28,468 does it just have to be 1680 00:58:28,468 --> 00:58:30,868 allocated the funds and 1681 00:58:31,738 --> 00:58:32,840 everything completes towns? 1682 00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:34,700 >> We would prefer that is 1683 00:58:34,700 --> 00:58:37,700 completed. But the only action 1684 00:58:37,677 --> 00:58:38,479 the city is taking the zippy 1685 00:58:38,479 --> 00:58:40,879 public funds is the 1686 00:58:42,316 --> 00:58:44,485 contribution of the money. So 1687 00:58:44,485 --> 00:58:45,152 we can cut. That's why the 1688 00:58:45,152 --> 00:58:47,654 saying we will pay for Said 1689 00:58:47,654 --> 00:58:49,823 that we have an agreement and 1690 00:58:49,823 --> 00:58:50,691 understanding precisely what 1691 00:58:50,691 --> 00:58:52,492 those funds are for. If we 1692 00:58:52,492 --> 00:58:53,260 can't get it actually 1693 00:58:53,260 --> 00:58:56,260 finished. But the city will 1694 00:58:56,530 --> 00:58:57,497 done its part. Mabry put the 1695 00:58:57,497 --> 00:58:59,660 money in escrow, but what will 1696 00:58:59,660 --> 00:59:00,670 find a way to accomplish that? 1697 00:59:00,670 --> 00:59:01,168 Okay. To be sure in compliance 1698 00:59:01,168 --> 00:59:04,168 with the statute. Great. Thank 1699 00:59:05,139 --> 00:59:07,139 you. 1700 00:59:10,211 --> 00:59:11,145 >> Okay, with that. You have. 1701 00:59:11,145 --> 00:59:14,182 >> MAY or MAY I just say when 1702 00:59:14,182 --> 00:59:15,116 we do come to the ai. 1703 00:59:15,116 --> 00:59:15,683 >> Hold on one 0nd. We have a 1704 00:59:15,683 --> 00:59:19,283 we have an audio issue here 1705 00:59:22,623 --> 00:59:23,224 the dyes. Thank you very much 1706 00:59:23,224 --> 00:59:25,560 for all of this attention and 1707 00:59:25,560 --> 00:59:27,280 consideration. I just want it 1708 00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:27,695 reiterate that I will work 1709 00:59:27,695 --> 00:59:31,295 with legal so that what comes 1710 00:59:31,599 --> 00:59:34,536 in front of ipp? I actually 1711 00:59:34,536 --> 00:59:35,903 don't think in my since 2017 1712 00:59:35,903 --> 00:59:39,503 that Ipp has made a donation 1713 00:59:39,674 --> 00:59:42,277 to a nonprofit. So I I I don't 1714 00:59:42,277 --> 00:59:42,878 know that our ordinance allows 1715 00:59:42,878 --> 00:59:44,446 those inland fees to do that. 1716 00:59:44,446 --> 00:59:46,747 And usually it's for 1717 00:59:46,747 --> 00:59:47,516 maintenance. But we'll we'll 1718 00:59:47,516 --> 00:59:48,415 take a look at it and make 1719 00:59:48,415 --> 00:59:49,500 sure I'm assuming they've 1720 00:59:49,500 --> 00:59:51,687 already done that before. They 1721 00:59:51,687 --> 00:59:52,921 wrote this resolution. But we 1722 00:59:52,921 --> 00:59:54,556 will make sure that our ducks 1723 00:59:54,556 --> 00:59:55,900 are in a row for SEPTEMBER. 1724 00:59:55,900 --> 00:59:56,657 16th. We appreciate your 1725 00:59:56,657 --> 00:59:58,493 assistance. Okay, okay. If 1726 00:59:58,493 --> 01:00:00,629 there's nothing further call 1727 01:00:00,629 --> 01:00:02,563 the Roll. Commissioner Carey. 1728 01:00:02,563 --> 01:00:04,563 Yes, commissioner Castillo. 1729 01:00:04,699 --> 01:00:06,368 Yes, commissioner Haskell. 1730 01:00:06,368 --> 01:00:06,934 Yes, commissioner Lee. Yes. 1731 01:00:06,934 --> 01:00:08,303 Commissioner mascots. Yes. 1732 01:00:08,303 --> 01:00:09,537 Commissioner Ross Yes. Mayor 1733 01:00:09,537 --> 01:00:12,537 Coffman. Yes. Thank you for 1734 01:00:12,874 --> 01:00:15,274 your support. Motion passes. 1735 01:00:15,878 --> 01:00:17,178 Item number 12 approving under 1736 01:00:17,178 --> 01:00:17,846 the General architectural 1737 01:00:17,846 --> 01:00:19,114 services contract with under 1738 01:00:19,114 --> 01:00:20,950 an associates. Architects pa a 1739 01:00:20,950 --> 01:00:21,984 task order for professional 1740 01:00:21,984 --> 01:00:22,718 Design services. 1741 01:00:22,718 --> 01:00:23,552 >> From Mallory Square 1742 01:00:23,552 --> 01:00:24,920 bathroom renovation and 1743 01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:27,920 addition in the amount of 200 1744 01:00:29,458 --> 01:00:29,992 and what, 202,000 $645 1745 01:00:29,992 --> 01:00:31,992 authorizing any necessary 1746 01:00:32,328 --> 01:00:33,495 budget transfers or amendments 1747 01:00:33,495 --> 01:00:34,130 authorizing the city manager 1748 01:00:34,130 --> 01:00:36,265 to execute necessary documents 1749 01:00:36,265 --> 01:00:36,898 up on consent. The city 1750 01:00:36,898 --> 01:00:40,498 attorney and we have a public 1751 01:00:40,636 --> 01:00:43,360 speaker, Joe Walsh. Welcome. 1752 01:00:47,375 --> 01:00:49,375 MISTER Walsh. 1753 01:00:50,513 --> 01:00:51,614 >> Good Morning Joe. On 4.29 1754 01:00:51,614 --> 01:00:53,480 Caroline Street. MISTER Berkey 1755 01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:54,817 is a terrific architect and 1756 01:00:54,817 --> 01:00:56,653 better from is it sensational. 1757 01:00:56,653 --> 01:00:57,687 The task order seems clear. 1758 01:00:57,687 --> 01:00:59,455 And the budget to me seems 1759 01:00:59,455 --> 01:01:01,958 fine. So at the end of I 1760 01:01:01,958 --> 01:01:03,958 wouldn't encourage you 2. 1761 01:01:05,995 --> 01:01:08,970 Approve it. But I would 1762 01:01:08,970 --> 01:01:10,233 suggest that the scope is not 1763 01:01:10,233 --> 01:01:11,968 large enough. Several years 1764 01:01:11,968 --> 01:01:15,568 ago that the city engage the 1765 01:01:16,390 --> 01:01:17,808 from to do a number the public 1766 01:01:17,808 --> 01:01:20,208 meetings and analysis and 1767 01:01:20,811 --> 01:01:22,446 Mallory Square. It came up 1768 01:01:22,446 --> 01:01:22,979 with 2 primary iterations. 1769 01:01:22,979 --> 01:01:25,379 Both included moving the 1770 01:01:25,982 --> 01:01:27,250 restrooms from their current 1771 01:01:27,250 --> 01:01:28,652 location. Well, white and that 1772 01:01:28,652 --> 01:01:29,218 MAY or MAY not have made 1773 01:01:29,218 --> 01:01:31,154 sense. They did not include 1774 01:01:31,154 --> 01:01:34,910 remodeling it where it is. So 1775 01:01:34,910 --> 01:01:36,126 the I would suggest that that 1776 01:01:36,126 --> 01:01:37,828 if if this is moving this city 1777 01:01:37,828 --> 01:01:40,630 in a different direction. 1778 01:01:40,630 --> 01:01:42,463 Psaki proposal. I would 1779 01:01:42,833 --> 01:01:44,901 encourage scope of work to 1780 01:01:44,901 --> 01:01:46,770 include at a minimum that 1781 01:01:46,770 --> 01:01:47,937 portion Mallory Square to walk 1782 01:01:47,937 --> 01:01:49,607 away in a long Sally, for 1783 01:01:49,607 --> 01:01:50,273 example, between waterfront 1784 01:01:50,273 --> 01:01:50,841 Playhouse in the historic 1785 01:01:50,841 --> 01:01:53,241 Cistern where the bathrooms 1786 01:01:54,111 --> 01:01:57,147 are currently sit as well as 1787 01:01:57,147 --> 01:02:01,347 where Am I lift station is as 1788 01:02:03,287 --> 01:02:05,687 well as potentially historic 1789 01:02:05,723 --> 01:02:08,123 yet military memorial there, 1790 01:02:10,928 --> 01:02:13,960 which and and my personal 1791 01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:14,165 view, if the location is isn't 1792 01:02:14,165 --> 01:02:15,132 his dignified respectful as it 1793 01:02:15,132 --> 01:02:15,666 deserves. But nonetheless, so 1794 01:02:15,666 --> 01:02:18,666 I would encourage you to 1795 01:02:20,438 --> 01:02:22,173 increase the scope there 1796 01:02:22,173 --> 01:02:22,807 currently are our 3, urinals 1797 01:02:22,807 --> 01:02:24,541 and to water clauses in the 1798 01:02:24,541 --> 01:02:26,477 Metro 5 water closets in 1799 01:02:26,477 --> 01:02:27,545 ladies room. Most of the 1800 01:02:27,545 --> 01:02:29,747 complaints are not related to 1801 01:02:29,747 --> 01:02:30,481 capacity to relate to 1802 01:02:30,481 --> 01:02:32,481 cleanliness. What today 1803 01:02:33,584 --> 01:02:36,488 actually look like. So I'd 1804 01:02:36,488 --> 01:02:37,355 encourage you to take a look 1805 01:02:37,355 --> 01:02:39,491 And if this is a step or 1806 01:02:39,491 --> 01:02:40,558 $200,000 and redeveloping 1807 01:02:40,558 --> 01:02:41,326 Mallory Square, I would say 1808 01:02:41,326 --> 01:02:44,562 take a look at the walkway in 1809 01:02:44,562 --> 01:02:45,620 again, which is not good. Take 1810 01:02:45,620 --> 01:02:46,631 a look at the restrooms 1811 01:02:46,631 --> 01:02:48,299 themselves, which again is not 1812 01:02:48,299 --> 01:02:49,133 good. But if you're changing 1813 01:02:49,133 --> 01:02:51,536 from the from the plan that 1814 01:02:51,536 --> 01:02:53,772 was was looked at and approved 1815 01:02:53,772 --> 01:02:56,108 that you're asking MR. And his 1816 01:02:56,108 --> 01:02:56,741 firm to look at it larger than 1817 01:02:56,741 --> 01:02:59,741 just read the reference. Thank 1818 01:03:03,581 --> 01:03:06,617 you, sir. Okay. Bring it back 1819 01:03:06,617 --> 01:03:07,652 to the commission as their 1820 01:03:07,652 --> 01:03:08,520 discussion. You know, social 1821 01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:09,253 want to discuss mission are 1822 01:03:09,253 --> 01:03:12,253 also having him business and 1823 01:03:12,758 --> 01:03:14,359 the 200 block of Duval Street. 1824 01:03:14,359 --> 01:03:15,294 >> I actually have the only 1825 01:03:15,294 --> 01:03:17,694 public restrooms the down 1826 01:03:18,563 --> 01:03:19,164 there. Sometimes that book to 1827 01:03:19,164 --> 01:03:23,680 go in there for a quarter to 1828 01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:23,802 use it just for keep it out. 1829 01:03:23,802 --> 01:03:24,336 But I would recommend is 1830 01:03:24,336 --> 01:03:27,336 restrooms need to be bomb 1831 01:03:28,173 --> 01:03:28,673 proof? Mean, seriously, what 1832 01:03:28,673 --> 01:03:31,673 people do go into these 1833 01:03:32,444 --> 01:03:34,444 restrooms. You'll never 1834 01:03:34,513 --> 01:03:35,614 believe till you see it means 1835 01:03:35,614 --> 01:03:37,149 it's bat. So I would say that 1836 01:03:37,149 --> 01:03:41,320 I would least like to see what 1837 01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:43,122 is planned there. How much 1838 01:03:43,122 --> 01:03:43,723 going to be looking at over 1839 01:03:43,723 --> 01:03:47,930 close to a million dollars to 1840 01:03:47,930 --> 01:03:48,928 build restrooms. Tell you that 1841 01:03:48,928 --> 01:03:49,529 right now and then you got to 1842 01:03:49,529 --> 01:03:52,331 make sure that this restrooms 1843 01:03:52,331 --> 01:03:54,901 are kept clean. You are we 1844 01:03:54,901 --> 01:03:55,802 going to have somebody down 1845 01:03:55,802 --> 01:03:57,170 there and it turns into really 1846 01:03:57,170 --> 01:04:00,770 be something. Let me tell you, 1847 01:04:01,608 --> 01:04:02,208 unlike just snow, you know. 1848 01:04:02,208 --> 01:04:05,808 The design of those roads and 1849 01:04:07,130 --> 01:04:10,613 I tell you. They said earlier 1850 01:04:13,119 --> 01:04:15,220 take it. Rough just a Anyone 1851 01:04:15,220 --> 01:04:16,122 else? Any MR. Maher. Yes, but 1852 01:04:16,122 --> 01:04:17,991 I can see the water from 1853 01:04:17,991 --> 01:04:20,391 playing as producing million 1854 01:04:20,927 --> 01:04:22,295 dollar bathrooms as their next 1855 01:04:22,295 --> 01:04:23,290 But fell in all seriousness. 1856 01:04:23,290 --> 01:04:23,630 But Commissioner Rusty, you 1857 01:04:23,630 --> 01:04:26,833 are correct. What goes on in 1858 01:04:26,833 --> 01:04:28,833 those bathrooms are. 1859 01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:31,380 >> So as as hard and they can 1860 01:04:31,380 --> 01:04:33,438 possibly be is really 1861 01:04:33,673 --> 01:04:34,340 necessary. But what's most 1862 01:04:34,340 --> 01:04:34,874 important is what I've 1863 01:04:34,874 --> 01:04:37,274 observed being a boundary 1864 01:04:37,811 --> 01:04:38,444 square is maintenance of those 1865 01:04:38,444 --> 01:04:41,140 bathrooms and making sure that 1866 01:04:41,140 --> 01:04:42,516 there is a plan to keep them 1867 01:04:42,516 --> 01:04:43,983 clean because they could be 1868 01:04:43,983 --> 01:04:44,585 the most beautifully designed 1869 01:04:44,585 --> 01:04:47,585 bathrooms ever. But if we're 1870 01:04:47,988 --> 01:04:48,589 not maintaining them, then, 1871 01:04:48,589 --> 01:04:50,190 you know, people are going to 1872 01:04:50,190 --> 01:04:51,225 be turned off and they're 1873 01:04:51,225 --> 01:04:51,792 going to they're not going to 1874 01:04:51,792 --> 01:04:52,393 carry that those bathrooms 1875 01:04:52,393 --> 01:04:54,528 because they're not going to 1876 01:04:54,528 --> 01:04:57,528 feel like there. Now. That's 1877 01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:00,601 all thank you, MISTER Mayor 1878 01:05:00,601 --> 01:05:02,136 Commissioner If I MAY I and 1879 01:05:02,136 --> 01:05:02,770 believe me, visit down there 1880 01:05:02,770 --> 01:05:06,370 lot go to Mary Square probably 1881 01:05:07,140 --> 01:05:07,707 every day. 1882 01:05:07,707 --> 01:05:09,110 >> I don't know what is the 1883 01:05:09,110 --> 01:05:10,411 mentality of some of the 1884 01:05:10,411 --> 01:05:10,978 people that use the bathroom. 1885 01:05:10,978 --> 01:05:12,979 They have to take the whole 1886 01:05:12,979 --> 01:05:16,579 roll of toilet paper and just. 1887 01:05:16,917 --> 01:05:20,517 On the school. In the Commode 1888 01:05:21,522 --> 01:05:22,123 Bowl stuff everywhere. I come 1889 01:05:22,123 --> 01:05:24,523 in the maintenance department 1890 01:05:25,493 --> 01:05:29,930 when they do come to clean 1891 01:05:29,863 --> 01:05:30,564 them also out handicap. 1892 01:05:30,564 --> 01:05:32,564 Handicap community. These 1893 01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:35,000 bathrooms have accommodate. 1894 01:05:35,603 --> 01:05:39,203 When when. We look at out 1895 01:05:39,573 --> 01:05:42,377 tourist town. And a person's 1896 01:05:42,377 --> 01:05:43,544 in a wheelchair or mobile 1897 01:05:43,544 --> 01:05:46,814 chair and they go to that 1898 01:05:46,814 --> 01:05:47,449 bathroom and they say it. They 1899 01:05:47,449 --> 01:05:51,490 turn around the goal to Mark's 1900 01:05:51,419 --> 01:05:55,619 place. I must say a shame of 1901 01:05:58,826 --> 01:05:59,561 it. And it. I know and we have 1902 01:05:59,561 --> 01:06:02,561 someone down Every square know 1903 01:06:02,764 --> 01:06:06,364 parkins down the all the time. 1904 01:06:06,868 --> 01:06:07,402 But it's got to be somebody to 1905 01:06:07,402 --> 01:06:07,936 Ali school check on those 1906 01:06:07,936 --> 01:06:10,336 bathrooms, at least every 1907 01:06:11,906 --> 01:06:14,209 every 2 to 4 hours because we 1908 01:06:14,209 --> 01:06:16,311 don't know what it a home home 1909 01:06:16,311 --> 01:06:17,479 doing. It. I don't know who do 1910 01:06:17,479 --> 01:06:18,460 it. I really do. And I don't 1911 01:06:18,460 --> 01:06:20,446 understand the mentality of 1912 01:06:21,416 --> 01:06:24,416 it. But again, the handicap, 1913 01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:27,210 it's my main concern. The 1914 01:06:27,210 --> 01:06:27,990 access. I don't like the area 1915 01:06:27,990 --> 01:06:30,392 is in because I don't think 1916 01:06:30,392 --> 01:06:32,660 it's given. Do the military 1917 01:06:32,660 --> 01:06:33,495 plakon unification next. A 1918 01:06:33,495 --> 01:06:35,895 bathroom. But everybody's got 1919 01:06:37,199 --> 01:06:39,168 to go to bathroom. So I guess, 1920 01:06:39,168 --> 01:06:40,936 you know, that's the best face 1921 01:06:40,936 --> 01:06:41,537 forward. But I just want 1922 01:06:41,537 --> 01:06:43,937 express that those bathrooms 1923 01:06:45,808 --> 01:06:49,408 are. Not that Thank you. Thank 1924 01:06:49,745 --> 01:06:50,413 you, commissioner. Anyone else 1925 01:06:50,413 --> 01:06:50,946 I move to approve MISTER. 1926 01:06:50,946 --> 01:06:51,746 Okay. We have a motion by 1927 01:06:51,746 --> 01:06:53,746 Monica Hesse. Cool. 1928 01:06:55,551 --> 01:06:59,151 >> I think. I was sorry I 1929 01:07:00,490 --> 01:07:01,900 heard I heard from this side 1930 01:07:01,900 --> 01:07:01,758 for a motion by Commissioner 1931 01:07:01,758 --> 01:07:04,158 Carey second by Commissioner 1932 01:07:04,661 --> 01:07:06,462 Castillo. I would just add 1933 01:07:06,462 --> 01:07:07,764 we've talked about bathrooms 1934 01:07:07,764 --> 01:07:08,631 along Duval Street for many 1935 01:07:08,631 --> 01:07:11,266 years and the need for 1936 01:07:11,266 --> 01:07:11,867 increased availability. So 1937 01:07:11,867 --> 01:07:12,569 >> it's definitely something 1938 01:07:12,569 --> 01:07:15,472 that's on the radar of this 1939 01:07:15,472 --> 01:07:16,139 city and commission. Something 1940 01:07:16,139 --> 01:07:17,773 we need to talk about. And 1941 01:07:17,773 --> 01:07:18,642 again, leaning heavily on 1942 01:07:18,642 --> 01:07:21,420 Commissioner Rossi for these 1943 01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:24,247 items going forward. Just want 1944 01:07:24,247 --> 01:07:27,847 to ask is anybody by chance 1945 01:07:28,151 --> 01:07:29,510 here from better associates? 1946 01:07:29,510 --> 01:07:30,853 Okay. It's not. I'm sure they 1947 01:07:30,853 --> 01:07:31,588 will be listening and watching 1948 01:07:31,588 --> 01:07:33,423 the video so they'll take into 1949 01:07:33,423 --> 01:07:35,823 consideration or comments with 1950 01:07:36,793 --> 01:07:37,361 that could be called. Want to 1951 01:07:37,361 --> 01:07:39,361 say something. Commissioner 1952 01:07:39,896 --> 01:07:40,998 has a lot of Sorry, go ahead. 1953 01:07:40,998 --> 01:07:43,633 Yes. Did you get your motion a 1954 01:07:43,633 --> 01:07:46,403 second? Yes. Okay. So thank 1955 01:07:46,403 --> 01:07:47,700 you. I think that MR. Walsh 1956 01:07:47,700 --> 01:07:49,206 brought up a good point that 1957 01:07:49,206 --> 01:07:49,573 we do have a master plan 1958 01:07:49,573 --> 01:07:51,573 Mallory Square. 1959 01:07:54,111 --> 01:07:57,111 >> And didn't track with that 1960 01:07:58,215 --> 01:07:59,116 earlier the this new bathroom 1961 01:07:59,116 --> 01:08:01,985 proposed new bathroom in an 1962 01:08:01,985 --> 01:08:04,210 adjacent to the existing 1963 01:08:04,210 --> 01:08:04,622 bathroom was in a different 1964 01:08:04,622 --> 01:08:06,857 location than is is shown in 1965 01:08:06,857 --> 01:08:09,126 that master plan. So I just 1966 01:08:09,126 --> 01:08:12,126 think that that should be 1967 01:08:14,264 --> 01:08:15,233 considered for sure. 1968 01:08:15,233 --> 01:08:16,167 >> I'm not going to try to 1969 01:08:16,167 --> 01:08:17,568 pull the resolution up in case 1970 01:08:17,568 --> 01:08:20,568 my computer starts talking out 1971 01:08:21,205 --> 01:08:21,739 loud 1972 01:08:21,739 --> 01:08:23,541 >> so I can't look at the 1973 01:08:23,541 --> 01:08:25,941 resolution, but can the 1974 01:08:27,311 --> 01:08:27,879 resolutions say something? 1975 01:08:27,879 --> 01:08:30,279 >> Not that doesn't doesn't 1976 01:08:33,717 --> 01:08:35,820 limit the new bathroom plan 1977 01:08:35,820 --> 01:08:36,386 Jay sent to the existing 1978 01:08:36,386 --> 01:08:36,987 bathroom. What does it not 1979 01:08:36,987 --> 01:08:38,155 even have that limitation in 1980 01:08:38,155 --> 01:08:40,155 it? 1981 01:08:41,225 --> 01:08:42,226 >> Because like I would like 1982 01:08:42,226 --> 01:08:42,339 to encourage b# 1983 01:08:42,339 --> 01:08:42,446 # 1984 01:08:42,446 --> 01:08:42,554 # 1985 01:08:42,554 --> 01:08:42,667 # 1986 01:08:42,667 --> 01:08:42,780 # 1987 01:08:42,780 --> 01:08:43,327 and 1988 01:08:43,327 --> 01:08:43,894 associates, you know, taking 1989 01:08:43,894 --> 01:08:47,494 taking a look at the whole 1990 01:08:48,265 --> 01:08:49,667 plant, which I'm sure. 1991 01:08:49,667 --> 01:08:50,368 >> They're willing and able to 1992 01:08:50,368 --> 01:08:50,902 do. And they're I'm sure that 1993 01:08:50,902 --> 01:08:53,138 familiar with the plan. I 1994 01:08:53,138 --> 01:08:55,840 would just like to give 1995 01:08:55,840 --> 01:08:56,273 >> direction that that 1996 01:08:56,273 --> 01:08:57,175 actually happened. 1997 01:08:57,175 --> 01:08:58,943 >> Can we asked legal staff to 1998 01:08:58,943 --> 01:09:01,460 come on that night? My 1999 01:09:01,460 --> 01:09:01,646 understanding is that the 2000 01:09:01,646 --> 01:09:02,947 master plan has been approved 2001 01:09:02,947 --> 01:09:03,515 by the commission. So I don't 2002 01:09:03,515 --> 01:09:05,915 think that's actually an 2003 01:09:07,686 --> 01:09:08,487 existing plan. So although 2004 01:09:08,487 --> 01:09:11,323 that was really good work done 2005 01:09:11,323 --> 01:09:12,657 by Psaki from and that we have 2006 01:09:12,657 --> 01:09:13,258 those plans available to us. 2007 01:09:13,258 --> 01:09:16,258 That's not an actionable plan 2008 01:09:16,595 --> 01:09:17,228 at this point. It's why so 2009 01:09:17,228 --> 01:09:17,828 understand what you're saying. 2010 01:09:17,828 --> 01:09:20,199 Commissioner Haskell. So can 2011 01:09:20,199 --> 01:09:22,935 we hear from legal stuff? What 2012 01:09:22,935 --> 01:09:25,335 is the question, Commissioner 2013 01:09:25,704 --> 01:09:26,805 Haskell? Could you repeat the 2014 01:09:26,805 --> 01:09:28,741 question? Please? I want to 2015 01:09:28,741 --> 01:09:29,775 pull up the resolution so I 2016 01:09:29,775 --> 01:09:31,677 could read it. I can't see it 2017 01:09:31,677 --> 01:09:33,379 right this minute. So I was 2018 01:09:33,379 --> 01:09:34,980 asking, did the resolutions 2019 01:09:34,980 --> 01:09:35,981 specify the location of the 2020 01:09:35,981 --> 01:09:37,981 additional bathroom? 2021 01:09:38,830 --> 01:09:38,683 >> Because I don't want to 2022 01:09:38,683 --> 01:09:41,687 limit it to be an adjacent to 2023 01:09:41,687 --> 01:09:44,870 the existing bathroom. These 2024 01:09:46,125 --> 01:09:47,920 now are down to 2025 01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:48,961 >> Thank commissioners. It 2026 01:09:48,961 --> 01:09:51,563 doesn't it's the area we've 2027 01:09:51,563 --> 01:09:52,198 looked at. We do actually have 2028 01:09:52,198 --> 01:09:55,798 flood so Ning issue there that 2029 01:09:56,350 --> 01:09:58,300 we have had to resolve the 2030 01:09:58,300 --> 01:09:59,372 master plan that as the mayor 2031 01:09:59,372 --> 01:10:01,106 indicated was not approved, 2032 01:10:01,106 --> 01:10:04,706 but it's got component of it. 2033 01:10:04,943 --> 01:10:06,713 That bathrooms as one of it as 2034 01:10:06,713 --> 01:10:08,714 well. You'll see at a later 2035 01:10:08,714 --> 01:10:09,949 meetings, shade structures as 2036 01:10:09,949 --> 01:10:12,510 well as landscaping. So we're 2037 01:10:12,510 --> 01:10:12,652 trying to here to at least the 2038 01:10:12,652 --> 01:10:15,210 concepts of that master plan 2039 01:10:15,210 --> 01:10:15,522 and the component. But as far 2040 01:10:15,522 --> 01:10:18,522 as the location of the 2041 01:10:18,591 --> 01:10:19,192 bathroom, not set. We just 2042 01:10:19,192 --> 01:10:22,128 looked at and it seemed like 2043 01:10:22,128 --> 01:10:23,496 an ideal location, but we can 2044 01:10:23,496 --> 01:10:25,631 had architect look at other 2045 01:10:25,631 --> 01:10:25,966 locations. If that's 2046 01:10:25,966 --> 01:10:26,465 appropriate. 2047 01:10:26,465 --> 01:10:28,865 >> Okay. Thank you. I'm 2048 01:10:29,502 --> 01:10:31,571 satisfied with that, MR. 2049 01:10:31,571 --> 01:10:33,640 Bradshaw, can you please ask 2050 01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:34,574 MR. Burke, Ian, Better 2051 01:10:34,574 --> 01:10:35,375 Associates to consider the 2052 01:10:35,375 --> 01:10:35,842 comments that were made today 2053 01:10:35,842 --> 01:10:36,409 by MR. Walsh and the 2054 01:10:36,409 --> 01:10:38,809 Commission. Yes, Sir. Thank 2055 01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:41,481 you. Okay. We're ready for a 2056 01:10:41,481 --> 01:10:43,881 vote either discussion. MADAM 2057 01:10:44,184 --> 01:10:45,850 Clerk and please call the Roll 2058 01:10:45,850 --> 01:10:45,652 Commissioner Carey. Yes, 2059 01:10:45,652 --> 01:10:47,652 commissioner Casteel. Yes, 2060 01:10:48,689 --> 01:10:50,689 commissioner Haskell. 2061 01:10:52,626 --> 01:10:53,260 >> I just pulled up the at 2062 01:10:53,260 --> 01:10:55,162 additional rest rooms with the 2063 01:10:55,162 --> 01:10:55,696 construction of a new restroom 2064 01:10:55,696 --> 01:10:58,960 facility adjacent to the 2065 01:11:00,300 --> 01:11:01,835 existing facility. I'd like 2066 01:11:01,835 --> 01:11:02,469 that to be struck, actually. 2067 01:11:02,469 --> 01:11:03,700 Otherwise, if it's too late to 2068 01:11:03,700 --> 01:11:06,670 do that, I'm just going vote 2069 01:11:08,876 --> 01:11:09,843 emotion. But if 2070 01:11:09,843 --> 01:11:10,378 >> town's what guidance to 2071 01:11:10,378 --> 01:11:13,378 have since we're in roll. 2072 01:11:14,315 --> 01:11:16,160 Call. With the correct. Let's 2073 01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:19,160 take let's take 30 seconds to 2074 01:11:20,540 --> 01:11:23,654 love All the motion back with 2075 01:11:30,331 --> 01:11:31,165 corrections. Table to your 2076 01:11:31,165 --> 01:11:31,966 references to the language 2077 01:11:31,966 --> 01:11:34,366 that says additionally the 2078 01:11:34,869 --> 01:11:35,336 city would like to add 2079 01:11:35,336 --> 01:11:35,869 additional restroom. 2080 01:11:35,869 --> 01:11:38,869 >> So that can hear you. 2081 01:11:40,308 --> 01:11:42,308 Sorry. 2082 01:11:42,810 --> 01:11:43,411 >> You're commissioner 2083 01:11:43,411 --> 01:11:45,811 Haskell's reference, I think 2084 01:11:47,480 --> 01:11:49,830 is to the second, whereas 2085 01:11:49,830 --> 01:11:49,584 paragraph on additionally the 2086 01:11:49,584 --> 01:11:52,487 city would like to add 2087 01:11:52,487 --> 01:11:54,522 additional rest rooms. But the 2088 01:11:54,522 --> 01:11:56,910 construction of a new restroom 2089 01:11:56,910 --> 01:11:57,240 facility adjacent to the 2090 01:11:57,240 --> 01:12:00,240 existing facility. Yes, up the 2091 01:12:00,996 --> 01:12:01,628 task order. And that's where I 2092 01:12:01,628 --> 01:12:03,965 think we need staff to tell us 2093 01:12:03,965 --> 01:12:06,365 whether the task order 2094 01:12:06,468 --> 01:12:08,603 includes that or not. And off 2095 01:12:08,603 --> 01:12:12,803 top. My head. I don't know the 2096 01:12:15,844 --> 01:12:16,578 answer to that. 2097 01:12:16,578 --> 01:12:17,179 >> Okay. And that staff had 2098 01:12:17,179 --> 01:12:19,579 recommended that the location 2099 01:12:20,849 --> 01:12:21,650 next to it be looked at again. 2100 01:12:21,650 --> 01:12:23,451 I have no problem. And again, 2101 01:12:23,451 --> 01:12:24,952 if the resolution needs to 2102 01:12:24,952 --> 01:12:25,520 modified is asking the 2103 01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:27,256 architect and look at other 2104 01:12:27,256 --> 01:12:30,256 possible locations. So I don't 2105 01:12:30,325 --> 01:12:31,930 have a problem with that. It 2106 01:12:31,930 --> 01:12:31,693 just that that seemed like the 2107 01:12:31,693 --> 01:12:34,930 logical location because it's 2108 01:12:37,733 --> 01:12:38,567 adjacent to that existing. Ok, 2109 01:12:38,567 --> 01:12:40,736 why don't we? When we pull 2110 01:12:40,736 --> 01:12:42,838 back the roll call and start 2111 01:12:42,838 --> 01:12:44,740 motion again or what do you 2112 01:12:44,740 --> 01:12:45,874 what advice? I think we need 2113 01:12:45,874 --> 01:12:47,509 to do that because I think 2114 01:12:47,509 --> 01:12:49,578 need to get straight about 2115 01:12:49,578 --> 01:12:50,312 what the task order is so that 2116 01:12:50,312 --> 01:12:50,880 clear so that MR. Jones, to 2117 01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:53,280 have a recommended amended 2118 01:12:55,217 --> 01:12:56,850 motion. 2119 01:12:56,850 --> 01:12:56,685 >> If if we can push this back 2120 01:12:56,685 --> 01:12:58,788 after I have a chance to talk 2121 01:12:58,788 --> 01:13:00,356 to MISTER Bradshaw because I 2122 01:13:00,356 --> 01:13:03,356 don't have the task order. 2123 01:13:04,493 --> 01:13:05,127 It's ok, so is there a motion 2124 01:13:05,127 --> 01:13:08,727 to table guess to table MISTER 2125 01:13:09,665 --> 01:13:10,500 Mayor until when the and the 2126 01:13:10,500 --> 01:13:11,768 resolution after the break. 2127 01:13:11,768 --> 01:13:12,368 Talk about it during the 2128 01:13:12,368 --> 01:13:15,968 break. Ok, is there a motion 2129 01:13:17,540 --> 01:13:18,173 to table? So we will you 2130 01:13:18,173 --> 01:13:18,675 Commissioner Ross the table, a 2131 01:13:18,675 --> 01:13:21,750 motion motion to table 2132 01:13:21,177 --> 01:13:22,879 Commissioner Kaseya seconds. 2133 01:13:22,879 --> 01:13:23,413 All those in favor. Aye. Aye. 2134 01:13:23,413 --> 01:13:25,813 Any opposed hearing. None 2135 01:13:27,417 --> 01:13:30,417 motion carries. Thank you to 2136 01:13:31,153 --> 01:13:32,880 item number 14 approving a 2137 01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:34,357 task order for professional 2138 01:13:34,357 --> 01:13:34,924 design services for Hicks, 2139 01:13:34,924 --> 01:13:37,924 Beach master planning in an 2140 01:13:38,662 --> 01:13:39,362 amount of $188,130 under the 2141 01:13:39,362 --> 01:13:39,896 general architectural. 2142 01:13:39,896 --> 01:13:41,896 >> Services contract with 2143 01:13:42,499 --> 01:13:44,499 vendor and Associates, 2144 01:13:44,501 --> 01:13:45,168 Architects pa authorizing any 2145 01:13:45,168 --> 01:13:47,203 necessary budget transfers or 2146 01:13:47,203 --> 01:13:48,739 adjustments authorizing the 2147 01:13:48,739 --> 01:13:49,271 city manager to execute 2148 01:13:49,271 --> 01:13:51,341 necessary documents up on 2149 01:13:51,341 --> 01:13:53,760 consent of the city attorney 2150 01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:53,743 and we have to public 2151 01:13:53,743 --> 01:13:55,743 speakers. Rita, right, 2152 01:13:57,130 --> 01:13:57,514 followed by Sir Kayla. If I 2153 01:13:57,514 --> 01:13:59,514 mispronounced your name 2154 01:14:08,658 --> 01:14:11,580 colleges. There's a button 2155 01:14:14,197 --> 01:14:14,430 right next to the. You're Go 2156 01:14:14,430 --> 01:14:14,999 ahead. 2157 01:14:14,999 --> 01:14:16,767 >> Good morning. Mayor and 2158 01:14:16,767 --> 01:14:19,767 commissioners. I was asked to 2159 01:14:20,303 --> 01:14:24,503 come. By the mayor to speak on 2160 01:14:24,909 --> 01:14:25,710 this. I'm a reader, right? 2161 01:14:25,710 --> 01:14:27,710 Live 12 15, Catherine Street 2162 01:14:31,150 --> 01:14:34,150 apartment 3. I lived here for 2163 01:14:34,585 --> 01:14:36,387 28 years and I am the 2164 01:14:36,387 --> 01:14:36,921 organizer of the day of 2165 01:14:36,921 --> 01:14:39,321 Remembrance that we just 2166 01:14:40,910 --> 01:14:40,558 celebrated last Sunday. Thank 2167 01:14:40,558 --> 01:14:43,558 you to the city City 2168 01:14:45,429 --> 01:14:46,564 commissioner. And the mayor 2169 01:14:46,564 --> 01:14:50,164 came to that event. Thank you. 2170 01:14:51,469 --> 01:14:52,403 Down at the African cemetery. 2171 01:14:52,403 --> 01:14:56,106 I just want to make the point 2172 01:14:56,106 --> 01:14:56,708 that everyone who came out. So 2173 01:14:56,708 --> 01:14:59,309 I have success for this event 2174 01:14:59,309 --> 01:15:02,309 was the ceremony has been 2175 01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:04,482 happening. Thank Since 2000. 2176 01:15:04,482 --> 01:15:07,786 Well, I wasn't a part of what 2177 01:15:07,786 --> 01:15:08,752 was going on with the park. 2178 01:15:08,752 --> 01:15:11,752 Across the street from the 2179 01:15:12,424 --> 01:15:13,240 cemetery cross the street from 2180 01:15:13,240 --> 01:15:16,228 the cemetery is where the dog 2181 01:15:16,228 --> 01:15:20,428 park and all I wasn't a part 2182 01:15:21,166 --> 01:15:22,968 of making that situation 2183 01:15:22,968 --> 01:15:23,502 happened. But now that that is 2184 01:15:23,502 --> 01:15:26,502 a space there across the 2185 01:15:26,638 --> 01:15:27,739 street and the dot part, the 2186 01:15:27,739 --> 01:15:30,739 city, they scraped the plan 2187 01:15:31,310 --> 01:15:32,276 that they originally had, 2188 01:15:32,276 --> 01:15:34,813 which was to kind could 2189 01:15:34,813 --> 01:15:35,447 converge. Both cemeteries 2190 01:15:35,447 --> 01:15:38,447 cemetery across the street and 2191 01:15:39,550 --> 01:15:40,551 the cemetery. That's already 2192 01:15:40,551 --> 01:15:41,687 the amount. So they scrapped 2193 01:15:41,687 --> 01:15:43,722 that matter. We have in the 2194 01:15:43,722 --> 01:15:46,122 administration, the hat we 2195 01:15:49,228 --> 01:15:52,228 could consider. And we have. 2196 01:15:52,431 --> 01:15:53,699 We're suggesting Rose 2197 01:15:53,699 --> 01:15:55,968 diversity is suggesting that 2198 01:15:55,968 --> 01:15:57,370 we have and session host Ryan 2199 01:15:57,370 --> 01:16:00,370 and and the reflection park 2200 01:16:03,142 --> 01:16:03,675 across the street. Have signs 2201 01:16:03,675 --> 01:16:05,277 like the grotto at Saint 2202 01:16:05,277 --> 01:16:07,646 Mary's where you go set 2203 01:16:07,646 --> 01:16:10,646 reflect. He said, think about 2204 01:16:11,217 --> 01:16:13,617 the people buried there. 2205 01:16:14,220 --> 01:16:16,923 African symbols on it. And I 2206 01:16:16,923 --> 01:16:20,523 need to point out When I 2207 01:16:20,993 --> 01:16:21,761 became pilot, Larry, it. There 2208 01:16:21,761 --> 01:16:22,295 was a group of students that 2209 01:16:22,295 --> 01:16:24,695 came down from Princeton 2210 01:16:27,733 --> 01:16:29,636 University. And they research 2211 01:16:29,636 --> 01:16:31,471 project about the cemetery and 2212 01:16:31,471 --> 01:16:34,673 how the city has handled the 2213 01:16:34,673 --> 01:16:35,241 situation with the cemetery. 2214 01:16:35,241 --> 01:16:39,441 And it just came out in the 2215 01:16:40,913 --> 01:16:42,480 big Rolling Stone article. And 2216 01:16:42,480 --> 01:16:45,648 it's it's it's It's a great 2217 01:16:46,286 --> 01:16:49,286 article that came down. It's 2218 01:16:49,823 --> 01:16:50,357 entitled respect 3rd. And 2219 01:16:50,357 --> 01:16:53,357 wanted to just have some 2220 01:16:54,393 --> 01:16:56,793 respect. We're just asking 2221 01:16:57,898 --> 01:17:00,633 that you consider having place 2222 01:17:00,633 --> 01:17:01,234 where it could be sacred. It 2223 01:17:01,234 --> 01:17:02,402 could be honoring ancestors. 2224 01:17:02,402 --> 01:17:05,505 We could go there across the 2225 01:17:05,505 --> 01:17:07,641 street. And have our 2226 01:17:07,641 --> 01:17:09,510 ceremonies have are our bring 2227 01:17:09,510 --> 01:17:12,510 our offerings just like they 2228 01:17:12,546 --> 01:17:15,546 do it. Saint Mary's, because 2229 01:17:16,216 --> 01:17:16,783 these students are watching. 2230 01:17:16,783 --> 01:17:19,783 And then now Rolling Stone. 2231 01:17:20,153 --> 01:17:20,988 The world is watching him and 2232 01:17:20,988 --> 01:17:23,388 ancestors of watching. And 2233 01:17:24,558 --> 01:17:26,958 thank you. Thank you. 2234 01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:38,172 >> I'm sorry, Sir. Kayla. I am 2235 01:17:38,172 --> 01:17:41,172 sick. I couldn't detect. Most 2236 01:17:41,509 --> 01:17:42,430 of her secret. Thank you all 2237 01:17:42,430 --> 01:17:43,744 for being in for listing. 2238 01:17:43,744 --> 01:17:44,344 Thank you for that. You 2239 01:17:44,344 --> 01:17:47,344 support a day of remembrance 2240 01:17:47,915 --> 01:17:51,515 as well. This is a sacred 2241 01:17:52,921 --> 01:17:53,488 burial site. In various 2242 01:17:53,488 --> 01:17:54,122 African societies. Deceased 2243 01:17:54,122 --> 01:17:57,122 loved ones were buried beneath 2244 01:17:58,192 --> 01:17:59,761 the home. This kept their 2245 01:17:59,761 --> 01:18:00,328 presence close to serve as 2246 01:18:00,328 --> 01:18:01,496 advisors intimacy like they 2247 01:18:01,496 --> 01:18:03,896 shouldn't do on their 2248 01:18:04,650 --> 01:18:06,465 birthday. Festival days. It's 2249 01:18:08,235 --> 01:18:09,360 one of our traditions knowing 2250 01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:10,872 I loved ones are still with 2251 01:18:10,872 --> 01:18:11,673 us. Still watching is a 2252 01:18:11,673 --> 01:18:13,241 crucial key in African. They 2253 01:18:13,241 --> 01:18:14,142 societies which helps us to 2254 01:18:14,142 --> 01:18:17,142 hold community members to a 2255 01:18:18,747 --> 01:18:19,347 higher standard. Jesus on day 2256 01:18:19,347 --> 01:18:22,347 of judgment ancestors. In the 2257 01:18:25,386 --> 01:18:27,880 meantime. The pairing U.S. Key 2258 01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:27,722 West welcomed these poor souls 2259 01:18:27,722 --> 01:18:30,722 after rescuing them from their 2260 01:18:31,326 --> 01:18:32,227 doomed slavers ships. Key West 2261 01:18:32,227 --> 01:18:34,627 became their caregiver and 2262 01:18:36,798 --> 01:18:37,766 death. Their custodian. We are 2263 01:18:37,766 --> 01:18:38,967 asking now for some 2264 01:18:38,967 --> 01:18:39,801 designation of their area 2265 01:18:39,801 --> 01:18:41,836 beyond just the already 2266 01:18:41,836 --> 01:18:43,836 established memorial because 2267 01:18:44,473 --> 01:18:45,173 after all, graves the area 2268 01:18:45,173 --> 01:18:48,173 across the street, we are 2269 01:18:49,211 --> 01:18:49,811 completely ignoring them. We 2270 01:18:49,811 --> 01:18:52,811 asked where Memorial Park at 2271 01:18:53,820 --> 01:18:53,682 the very least we can that 2272 01:18:53,682 --> 01:18:57,153 post similar to the ones that 2273 01:18:57,153 --> 01:18:58,119 the existing memorial. The 2274 01:18:58,119 --> 01:18:59,254 Post got out money area 2275 01:18:59,254 --> 01:18:59,989 inside. We could have a green 2276 01:18:59,989 --> 01:19:03,589 space with the house of some 2277 01:19:03,826 --> 01:19:04,293 sort niche spaces where people 2278 01:19:04,293 --> 01:19:06,293 leave offerings, sit 2279 01:19:07,597 --> 01:19:08,163 contemplation. With the 2280 01:19:08,163 --> 01:19:08,597 ancestors. The whole park 2281 01:19:08,597 --> 01:19:11,597 could be a place of 2282 01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:14,468 reflection. This is picnic 2283 01:19:15,637 --> 01:19:16,238 tables, a water feature 2284 01:19:16,238 --> 01:19:18,638 simple, but powerful gestures 2285 01:19:20,243 --> 01:19:23,243 of love respect. Long overdue. 2286 01:19:24,130 --> 01:19:24,613 Kyle Lohse where Congo Square 2287 01:19:24,613 --> 01:19:27,250 is well known in New Orleans 2288 01:19:27,250 --> 01:19:29,152 as a cultural destination. It 2289 01:19:29,152 --> 01:19:29,752 would not hurt us to offer a 2290 01:19:29,752 --> 01:19:31,752 similar cultural destination 2291 01:19:33,623 --> 01:19:34,190 here in Key West. Shrines and 2292 01:19:34,190 --> 01:19:36,590 an expanded memorial space 2293 01:19:38,661 --> 01:19:39,262 would help encourage tourism. 2294 01:19:39,262 --> 01:19:40,263 We like to see seats just saw 2295 01:19:40,263 --> 01:19:40,796 there so we can have our green 2296 01:19:40,796 --> 01:19:43,796 yet. Still stories to the 2297 01:19:45,769 --> 01:19:46,369 young once. So we can separate 2298 01:19:46,369 --> 01:19:46,937 the ancestors and spend time 2299 01:19:46,937 --> 01:19:50,140 so we can beat the drum and 2300 01:19:50,140 --> 01:19:52,540 make offerings. Feed our 2301 01:19:54,443 --> 01:19:55,440 ancestors. Well, we eat well. 2302 01:19:55,440 --> 01:19:55,612 This gesture was stripped in 2303 01:19:55,612 --> 01:19:57,447 our community, not just the 2304 01:19:57,447 --> 01:19:57,981 brown community but all shades 2305 01:19:57,981 --> 01:20:00,981 as blessings. Do not know 2306 01:20:03,119 --> 01:20:04,221 color. This is a piece of art 2307 01:20:04,221 --> 01:20:08,421 by a friend of ours. Mean it 2308 01:20:11,128 --> 01:20:13,363 means and go back and get it. 2309 01:20:13,363 --> 01:20:15,332 We're here now. We're African 2310 01:20:15,332 --> 01:20:15,899 Americans. We asked you to 2311 01:20:15,899 --> 01:20:16,533 help us honor our ancestors 2312 01:20:16,533 --> 01:20:20,133 and reclaimed his piece of our 2313 01:20:24,174 --> 01:20:25,109 culture. Oil, green space with 2314 01:20:25,109 --> 01:20:26,100 marble images for shrines, 2315 01:20:26,100 --> 01:20:28,410 water feature benches, picnic 2316 01:20:29,947 --> 01:20:30,514 tables, memorial pose. We 2317 01:20:30,514 --> 01:20:31,448 asked you to pour patients 2318 01:20:31,448 --> 01:20:32,810 with us for these ancestors 2319 01:20:32,810 --> 01:20:35,510 and watch a communal blessings 2320 01:20:35,510 --> 01:20:37,288 increase. We have an 2321 01:20:37,288 --> 01:20:38,521 opportunity to create a true 2322 01:20:38,521 --> 01:20:40,858 cultural gem for locals and 2323 01:20:40,858 --> 01:20:41,459 tourists alike. That think. 2324 01:20:41,459 --> 01:20:44,459 This is sacred ground. Thank 2325 01:20:45,296 --> 01:20:47,264 you. Thank Thank That's all 2326 01:20:47,264 --> 01:20:51,435 bring it Bring you back to the 2327 01:20:51,435 --> 01:20:53,835 commission. Mascot since this 2328 01:20:54,272 --> 01:20:56,440 is district 5, would you like 2329 01:20:56,440 --> 01:20:58,309 to start off Yes, I got to. 2330 01:20:58,309 --> 01:20:58,810 Want to thank the 2 speakers 2331 01:20:58,810 --> 01:21:01,810 every to and scale for 2332 01:21:03,147 --> 01:21:04,349 speaking up about this. 2333 01:21:04,349 --> 01:21:06,617 >> I remember in 2017 when we 2334 01:21:06,617 --> 01:21:10,217 had to rearrange the dog parks 2335 01:21:10,588 --> 01:21:12,556 because of the graves that 2336 01:21:12,556 --> 01:21:13,892 were found across the street. 2337 01:21:13,892 --> 01:21:14,758 And that was pretty much all 2338 01:21:14,758 --> 01:21:18,358 the county did was just moved. 2339 01:21:20,397 --> 01:21:21,232 The dog parks. I don't know. I 2340 01:21:21,232 --> 01:21:21,867 read the Rolling Stone 2341 01:21:21,867 --> 01:21:23,534 article. It was very powerful. 2342 01:21:23,534 --> 01:21:25,103 I don't know where the rest of 2343 01:21:25,103 --> 01:21:28,703 the graves are, but we must 2344 01:21:29,240 --> 01:21:32,240 can any of these discussions 2345 01:21:32,243 --> 01:21:35,243 respect no matter where they 2346 01:21:37,216 --> 01:21:38,282 are. And I during agenda 2347 01:21:38,282 --> 01:21:38,984 review with the city manager 2348 01:21:38,984 --> 01:21:39,584 and said it wasn't here to to 2349 01:21:39,584 --> 01:21:40,318 blow things up. But this is, 2350 01:21:40,318 --> 01:21:42,718 you know, pretty important. 2351 01:21:45,491 --> 01:21:47,426 But especially across the 2352 01:21:47,426 --> 01:21:48,600 street, the dog park does not 2353 01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:48,727 go by docks. Not watching, but 2354 01:21:48,727 --> 01:21:51,530 the dog park does not need to 2355 01:21:51,530 --> 01:21:54,500 be as large as it currently 2356 01:21:54,500 --> 01:21:54,650 is. I think that's the b# 2357 01:21:54,650 --> 01:21:54,756 # 2358 01:21:54,756 --> 01:21:54,859 # 2359 01:21:54,859 --> 01:21:54,974 # 2360 01:21:54,974 --> 01:21:55,868 # 2361 01:21:55,868 --> 01:21:57,703 and all of the other folks 2362 01:21:57,703 --> 01:21:58,303 agree that it is even for the 2363 01:21:58,303 --> 01:22:00,172 large dog park does not need 2364 01:22:00,172 --> 01:22:02,674 to be that large. We can 2365 01:22:02,674 --> 01:22:03,441 figure out how to find. I hope 2366 01:22:03,441 --> 01:22:05,143 we can figure out and find 2367 01:22:05,143 --> 01:22:08,743 these graves and to figure out 2368 01:22:08,981 --> 01:22:11,150 how best to honor them. You 2369 01:22:11,150 --> 01:22:11,951 know, people didn't that the 2370 01:22:11,951 --> 01:22:12,718 article mentions that there 2371 01:22:12,718 --> 01:22:16,318 MAY even be some under the 2372 01:22:17,523 --> 01:22:18,758 road on Atlantic Boulevard. So 2373 01:22:18,758 --> 01:22:22,929 I think we need to in any way 2374 01:22:22,929 --> 01:22:23,896 make sure that we honor that 2375 01:22:23,896 --> 01:22:26,896 there. There. That would put 2376 01:22:26,899 --> 01:22:29,299 us didn't rescuing those 2377 01:22:30,603 --> 01:22:33,106 people. So you know, I would I 2378 01:22:33,106 --> 01:22:36,706 want to direct the from 2 make 2379 01:22:38,444 --> 01:22:40,313 sure that we do something I 2380 01:22:40,313 --> 01:22:40,913 don't know how the sb 1134 2381 01:22:40,913 --> 01:22:44,513 would affect this, but I know 2382 01:22:44,883 --> 01:22:47,220 that we could put. You know, 2383 01:22:47,220 --> 01:22:47,853 some sort of material 2384 01:22:47,853 --> 01:22:48,388 something there to to remember 2385 01:22:48,388 --> 01:22:51,388 at some 2 to reflect like 2386 01:22:51,658 --> 01:22:52,425 looks okay. Lets said. And 2387 01:22:52,425 --> 01:22:53,158 then we can, you know, work 2388 01:22:53,158 --> 01:22:55,610 on, you know, any kind of 2389 01:22:55,610 --> 01:22:57,300 signage or anything like that. 2390 01:22:57,300 --> 01:22:57,663 But I would love to see 2391 01:22:57,663 --> 01:22:59,933 something across the street of 2392 01:22:59,933 --> 01:23:02,335 the panic Boulevard near the 2393 01:23:02,335 --> 01:23:02,969 dog parks as a place of 2394 01:23:02,969 --> 01:23:05,369 reflection and direct pandered 2395 01:23:05,404 --> 01:23:08,404 to do that. Thank you. 2396 01:23:09,743 --> 01:23:12,112 Excellent commissioner. I saw 2397 01:23:12,112 --> 01:23:14,512 I saw Commissioner Haskell 2398 01:23:16,682 --> 01:23:19,787 first. Thank MR. Mayor. I have 2399 01:23:19,787 --> 01:23:20,520 2 points about this. One is 2400 01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:21,355 that. 2401 01:23:21,355 --> 01:23:24,955 >> I I am pleased that better 2402 01:23:25,926 --> 01:23:27,994 and associates has put in 2403 01:23:27,994 --> 01:23:30,331 their proposal the there at 2404 01:23:30,331 --> 01:23:32,731 the awareness of African 2405 01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:34,680 graves that in The Hague 2406 01:23:34,680 --> 01:23:37,668 speech Park and which is now 2407 01:23:40,774 --> 01:23:43,644 belongs to the city there ok, 2408 01:23:43,644 --> 01:23:44,979 never what what they say is in 2409 01:23:44,979 --> 01:23:47,214 their report. There is there 2410 01:23:47,214 --> 01:23:49,614 are also gravesites adjacent 2411 01:23:49,983 --> 01:23:51,285 the Fort West Martello. If 2412 01:23:51,285 --> 01:23:52,519 work is done in this area, it 2413 01:23:52,519 --> 01:23:53,870 will be required to be in 2414 01:23:53,870 --> 01:23:56,870 compliance with the city of 2415 01:23:56,523 --> 01:23:57,658 Key West Park board. Secretary 2416 01:23:57,658 --> 01:24:00,580 of interiors standards for 2417 01:24:00,661 --> 01:24:01,462 rehabilitation. That's federal 2418 01:24:01,462 --> 01:24:04,462 and any other requirements of 2419 01:24:04,765 --> 01:24:06,330 the state division of 2420 01:24:06,330 --> 01:24:08,433 Historical Resources. So I'm 2421 01:24:08,469 --> 01:24:09,700 I'm pleased that the vendor 2422 01:24:09,700 --> 01:24:10,438 and associates, you know, 2423 01:24:10,438 --> 01:24:13,438 recognizes an is honoring the 2424 01:24:13,808 --> 01:24:16,208 importance. The gravesites and 2425 01:24:17,779 --> 01:24:19,748 their proposal. And that 2426 01:24:19,748 --> 01:24:22,417 echoed in information from the 2427 01:24:22,417 --> 01:24:23,785 landscape. Architect Keith or 2428 01:24:23,785 --> 01:24:26,554 pays up. And he mentioned is 2429 01:24:26,554 --> 01:24:29,391 in his report that there is a 2430 01:24:29,391 --> 01:24:30,892 ground penetrating radar 2431 01:24:30,892 --> 01:24:33,862 report. What is the exact 2432 01:24:33,862 --> 01:24:36,862 location of the graves and 2433 01:24:37,432 --> 01:24:38,000 that that will be used with so 2434 01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:40,235 that that's all good. And I 2435 01:24:40,235 --> 01:24:41,770 want to emphasize the 2436 01:24:41,770 --> 01:24:42,704 importance of these grave 2437 01:24:42,704 --> 01:24:45,704 sites of these African people. 2438 01:24:47,109 --> 01:24:50,179 We do not allow people to walk 2439 01:24:50,179 --> 01:24:53,779 their dogs and the Key West 2440 01:24:54,160 --> 01:24:54,716 Cemetery. We do not allow 2441 01:24:54,716 --> 01:24:55,751 people to walk their dogs in 2442 01:24:55,751 --> 01:24:58,151 the military cemetery adjacent 2443 01:24:59,221 --> 01:25:02,821 to Perry Court. We should not 2444 01:25:02,992 --> 01:25:03,592 allow people to have their 2445 01:25:03,592 --> 01:25:07,192 dogs play in the cemetery at 2446 01:25:08,898 --> 01:25:09,198 hate speech. Thank Great. 2447 01:25:09,198 --> 01:25:11,198 Thank you. 2448 01:25:11,300 --> 01:25:14,900 >> I think I saw wasn't Vice 2449 01:25:15,705 --> 01:25:16,305 vice mayor. Thank you, Mayor i 2450 01:25:16,305 --> 01:25:19,709 won't be able to support this 2451 01:25:19,709 --> 01:25:20,343 item at this time. I don't 2452 01:25:20,343 --> 01:25:21,410 think we're ready to engage. I 2453 01:25:21,410 --> 01:25:22,440 don't have a problem with 2454 01:25:22,440 --> 01:25:24,213 vendor, but I just don't think 2455 01:25:24,213 --> 01:25:26,716 we're ready. To engage them 2456 01:25:26,716 --> 01:25:30,316 yet. I think there. We just 2457 01:25:30,420 --> 01:25:31,200 spent time talking about the 2458 01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:31,621 the gravesites here. I think 2459 01:25:31,621 --> 01:25:33,889 there are a number of issues 2460 01:25:33,889 --> 01:25:35,925 that need to be vetted. Still 2461 01:25:35,925 --> 01:25:36,500 before we engage b# 2462 01:25:36,500 --> 01:25:36,180 # 2463 01:25:36,180 --> 01:25:36,331 # 2464 01:25:36,331 --> 01:25:36,475 # 2465 01:25:36,475 --> 01:25:36,598 # 2466 01:25:36,598 --> 01:25:38,598 and 2467 01:25:39,462 --> 01:25:40,950 start spending money. I still 2468 01:25:40,950 --> 01:25:41,798 think that we need more public 2469 01:25:41,798 --> 01:25:45,735 input. I think what I would I 2470 01:25:45,735 --> 01:25:46,401 suggest we have a up. Public 2471 01:25:46,401 --> 01:25:50,100 workshop at Hicks Beach on a 2472 01:25:51,107 --> 01:25:52,509 weekend. I'm still not certain 2473 01:25:52,509 --> 01:25:54,909 about this. The artificial 2474 01:25:57,247 --> 01:25:59,480 turf, the park. To me that. 2475 01:25:59,480 --> 01:26:00,951 That needs to be that it 2476 01:26:00,951 --> 01:26:01,518 still. So there's a number of 2477 01:26:01,518 --> 01:26:04,200 issues. I think that still 2478 01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:06,322 need to be vetted. I some more 2479 01:26:06,322 --> 01:26:06,623 public input. So that when we 2480 01:26:06,623 --> 01:26:06,757 do engage b# 2481 01:26:06,757 --> 01:26:06,864 # 2482 01:26:06,864 --> 01:26:06,972 # 2483 01:26:06,972 --> 01:26:07,780 # 2484 01:26:07,780 --> 01:26:09,780 # 2485 01:26:10,761 --> 01:26:11,795 . We are we 2486 01:26:11,795 --> 01:26:12,620 have you know, we're ready to 2487 01:26:12,620 --> 01:26:12,170 engage b# 2488 01:26:12,170 --> 01:26:12,277 # 2489 01:26:12,277 --> 01:26:12,387 # 2490 01:26:12,387 --> 01:26:12,503 # 2491 01:26:12,503 --> 01:26:12,629 # 2492 01:26:12,629 --> 01:26:14,629 and don't have 2493 01:26:15,832 --> 01:26:18,340 to go through the the some of 2494 01:26:18,340 --> 01:26:18,602 the obstacles that we went 2495 01:26:18,602 --> 01:26:19,201 through. A Bayview Park in 2496 01:26:19,201 --> 01:26:21,538 then, you know, was a lot of 2497 01:26:21,538 --> 01:26:22,305 delays there. So just think, 2498 01:26:22,305 --> 01:26:23,773 you know, I'm not I'm not 2499 01:26:23,773 --> 01:26:24,808 saying we should postpone this 2500 01:26:24,808 --> 01:26:28,408 forever. I don't think a month 2501 01:26:29,790 --> 01:26:31,181 or 2 are going to hurt to get 2502 01:26:31,181 --> 01:26:31,815 little bit more. I know we did 2503 01:26:31,815 --> 01:26:33,583 do some. We've got some public 2504 01:26:33,583 --> 01:26:34,151 input at the meeting, but I 2505 01:26:34,151 --> 01:26:36,286 think I remember when I was 2506 01:26:36,286 --> 01:26:36,820 when we're dealing with Higgs 2507 01:26:36,820 --> 01:26:39,457 beach when I was a police 2508 01:26:39,457 --> 01:26:43,360 chief a long time ago, we did 2509 01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:44,395 public workshops at Hicks 2510 01:26:44,395 --> 01:26:45,563 Beach on weekends and they 2511 01:26:45,563 --> 01:26:47,640 were 10. And I think we should 2512 01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:50,501 do at least one of those and 2513 01:26:50,501 --> 01:26:52,869 get some more input from from 2514 01:26:52,869 --> 01:26:54,839 the residents and try to vet 2515 01:26:54,839 --> 01:26:58,439 some of these issues before we 2516 01:26:58,643 --> 01:26:59,443 engage bend so. I don't think 2517 01:26:59,443 --> 01:27:00,110 it's ready. Yes, excellent 2518 01:27:00,110 --> 01:27:00,611 pulled almost like a 2519 01:27:00,611 --> 01:27:01,212 commissioner to see you. And 2520 01:27:01,212 --> 01:27:04,212 then get back to Commissioner 2521 01:27:05,116 --> 01:27:07,116 Haskell. Commission. Mascot. 2522 01:27:08,860 --> 01:27:11,686 How do you feel about this 2523 01:27:12,423 --> 01:27:13,491 here? Postponement? 2524 01:27:13,491 --> 01:27:15,593 >> You know, I was on the 2525 01:27:15,593 --> 01:27:17,728 fence about this item for the 2526 01:27:17,728 --> 01:27:19,998 entire week that this agenda 2527 01:27:19,998 --> 01:27:21,599 was out and I wanted to have 2528 01:27:21,599 --> 01:27:22,166 this discussion to make my 2529 01:27:22,166 --> 01:27:25,166 decision. And I agree with 2530 01:27:25,803 --> 01:27:27,500 Vice Mayor Lee. I think that 2531 01:27:27,500 --> 01:27:28,373 we, you know, should be able 2532 01:27:28,373 --> 01:27:28,973 to make sure that we have a 2533 01:27:28,973 --> 01:27:29,103 very clear direction to b# 2534 01:27:29,103 --> 01:27:29,215 # 2535 01:27:29,215 --> 01:27:29,326 # 2536 01:27:29,326 --> 01:27:29,448 # 2537 01:27:29,448 --> 01:27:31,448 # 2538 01:27:33,644 --> 01:27:34,212 before we engage with them. I 2539 01:27:34,212 --> 01:27:36,748 am you know, this is in my 2540 01:27:36,748 --> 01:27:37,282 district. But, you know, next 2541 01:27:37,282 --> 01:27:40,785 piece is one of the most 2542 01:27:40,785 --> 01:27:42,621 important places in the city 2543 01:27:42,621 --> 01:27:43,222 for both residents and for 2544 01:27:43,222 --> 01:27:45,123 visitors. And I don't want to 2545 01:27:45,123 --> 01:27:46,580 just do it just for the sake 2546 01:27:46,580 --> 01:27:49,658 of of doing it because now 2547 01:27:50,796 --> 01:27:53,764 that the the city in control 2548 01:27:53,764 --> 01:27:54,733 of it. You know, I'm leaning 2549 01:27:54,733 --> 01:27:55,601 towards not supporting this 2550 01:27:55,601 --> 01:27:58,100 currently postponing for month 2551 01:27:58,370 --> 01:28:01,400 or 2 is not going be, you 2552 01:28:01,400 --> 01:28:01,773 know, the reason I want to 2553 01:28:01,773 --> 01:28:03,709 respect everybody's district 2554 01:28:03,709 --> 01:28:03,976 here when you've got something 2555 01:28:03,976 --> 01:28:05,843 it, that. 2556 01:28:05,843 --> 01:28:08,647 >> And I want to act. What 2557 01:28:08,647 --> 01:28:09,314 you're feeling before I decide 2558 01:28:09,314 --> 01:28:12,314 my decision. But, you make 2559 01:28:12,418 --> 01:28:12,618 motion to postpone Intel. 2560 01:28:12,618 --> 01:28:14,618 Okay. 2561 01:28:14,886 --> 01:28:15,421 >> Thank commissioner. So is 2562 01:28:15,421 --> 01:28:15,954 that a motion to postpone 2563 01:28:15,954 --> 01:28:17,623 commission see we have a 2564 01:28:17,623 --> 01:28:18,223 motion to postpone bite 2565 01:28:18,223 --> 01:28:20,725 commissioner, to see was that 2566 01:28:20,725 --> 01:28:21,326 for a time certain 2 on 2567 01:28:21,326 --> 01:28:23,195 service, something something 2568 01:28:23,195 --> 01:28:23,763 like that. But what is the 2569 01:28:23,763 --> 01:28:25,564 best the next meeting next 2570 01:28:25,564 --> 01:28:27,964 next meeting? So OCTOBER, 2571 01:28:28,601 --> 01:28:29,202 which is OCTOBER one, yes, 2572 01:28:29,202 --> 01:28:31,569 okay. The motion to postpone 2573 01:28:31,569 --> 01:28:33,573 to OCTOBER one. Is there a 2574 01:28:33,573 --> 01:28:34,173 second? It's certain that 2575 01:28:34,173 --> 01:28:34,740 that's Commissioner Rossi do 2576 01:28:34,740 --> 01:28:36,943 also if you book we need to 2577 01:28:36,943 --> 01:28:37,543 get to work on this. 2578 01:28:37,543 --> 01:28:39,943 >> Anymore discussion just on 2579 01:28:41,781 --> 01:28:42,648 the motion to postpone. 2580 01:28:42,648 --> 01:28:44,651 >> One other thing about the 2581 01:28:44,651 --> 01:28:46,753 public comment that was 2582 01:28:46,753 --> 01:28:49,155 received saying, you know why? 2583 01:28:49,155 --> 01:28:49,756 And you know, got started on 2584 01:28:49,756 --> 01:28:50,356 Bayview Park yet and with his 2585 01:28:50,356 --> 01:28:51,658 other things that need to get 2586 01:28:51,658 --> 01:28:55,258 done before this. I you know, 2587 01:28:55,762 --> 01:28:56,328 I I understand where they're 2588 01:28:56,328 --> 01:28:56,929 coming from. We have to be 2589 01:28:56,929 --> 01:29:00,600 able to walk and chew gum at 2590 01:29:00,600 --> 01:29:01,467 the same time here. You know, 2591 01:29:01,467 --> 01:29:04,467 I understand where that public 2592 01:29:05,710 --> 01:29:06,500 comment was coming from that 2593 01:29:06,500 --> 01:29:08,441 this post moment is not 2594 01:29:08,441 --> 01:29:09,750 because of that. I don't this 2595 01:29:09,750 --> 01:29:10,477 was moments because we want to 2596 01:29:10,477 --> 01:29:11,770 make sure that we get give the 2597 01:29:11,770 --> 01:29:14,770 right direction to the people 2598 01:29:14,381 --> 01:29:16,183 who are engaging. And so 2599 01:29:16,183 --> 01:29:17,184 during this month, I hope that 2600 01:29:17,184 --> 01:29:19,850 we get better kind of sense of 2601 01:29:19,850 --> 01:29:22,850 what they're thinking. And I 2602 01:29:23,691 --> 01:29:24,258 agree with Vice Mayor Lee 2603 01:29:24,258 --> 01:29:24,825 doctor up there, especially 2604 01:29:24,825 --> 01:29:27,225 there's special doctor for, 2605 01:29:27,761 --> 01:29:28,395 you know, for it. But it is it 2606 01:29:28,395 --> 01:29:29,263 was a dog park. What I love to 2607 01:29:29,263 --> 01:29:29,863 dc near in my neighborhood and 2608 01:29:29,863 --> 01:29:32,966 that's what it was turf with 2609 01:29:32,966 --> 01:29:36,704 that it was not good. So us to 2610 01:29:36,704 --> 01:29:39,673 be as natural as possible. So 2611 01:29:39,673 --> 01:29:40,908 I would never be able to 2612 01:29:40,908 --> 01:29:41,642 support a talk park artificial 2613 01:29:41,642 --> 01:29:43,911 Right now we're considering 2614 01:29:43,911 --> 01:29:44,478 only the motion to postpone 2615 01:29:44,478 --> 01:29:46,878 Yellowstone. So let's let's 2616 01:29:46,981 --> 01:29:48,883 stick to the motion hold one 2617 01:29:48,883 --> 01:29:49,950 second. I MR. Bradshaw first. 2618 01:29:49,950 --> 01:29:52,586 I want to see what he wanted 2619 01:29:52,586 --> 01:29:53,200 to say. So I just want some 2620 01:29:53,200 --> 01:29:55,200 clarification that. 2621 01:29:56,489 --> 01:29:56,757 >> What this does is and 2622 01:29:56,757 --> 01:29:56,872 gauges b# 2623 01:29:56,872 --> 01:29:56,984 # 2624 01:29:56,984 --> 01:29:57,100 # 2625 01:29:57,100 --> 01:29:57,207 # 2626 01:29:57,207 --> 01:29:58,526 # 2627 01:29:58,526 --> 01:30:00,327 to listen to the 2628 01:30:00,327 --> 01:30:00,927 public input. So just like we 2629 01:30:00,927 --> 01:30:02,630 did at the Truman Waterfront, 2630 01:30:02,630 --> 01:30:02,897 you have a consultant on 2631 01:30:02,897 --> 01:30:05,897 board. You do your public 2632 01:30:06,633 --> 01:30:07,235 meetings. They hear it. They 2633 01:30:07,235 --> 01:30:07,868 they they take those. I did. 2634 01:30:07,868 --> 01:30:10,471 There's no master plan at this 2635 01:30:10,471 --> 01:30:12,640 point. The their ideas that's 2636 01:30:12,640 --> 01:30:14,475 just just that these ladies 2637 01:30:14,475 --> 01:30:16,760 said that's that's an idea 2638 01:30:16,760 --> 01:30:16,644 that they'll hear. So part of 2639 01:30:16,644 --> 01:30:19,180 that process is having that 2640 01:30:19,180 --> 01:30:19,781 consultant on board to be at 2641 01:30:19,781 --> 01:30:22,350 those public meetings to hear 2642 01:30:22,350 --> 01:30:25,153 all the input and they come 2643 01:30:25,153 --> 01:30:26,420 back and develop conceptual 2644 01:30:26,420 --> 01:30:27,655 plans. So where that's what 2645 01:30:27,655 --> 01:30:28,256 this whole thing is to is to 2646 01:30:28,256 --> 01:30:31,256 develop the master plan based 2647 01:30:31,760 --> 01:30:33,940 on public input as opposed to 2648 01:30:33,940 --> 01:30:33,662 just staff having the public 2649 01:30:33,662 --> 01:30:36,564 meeting and then having to 2650 01:30:36,564 --> 01:30:37,131 take those ideas. It's having 2651 01:30:37,131 --> 01:30:38,500 that consultant be part of 2652 01:30:38,500 --> 01:30:39,468 that process. I just want to 2653 01:30:39,468 --> 01:30:42,369 add that just can I can I just 2654 01:30:42,369 --> 01:30:42,803 ask a question about that. 2655 01:30:42,803 --> 01:30:42,911 >> Is it clear to b# 2656 01:30:42,911 --> 01:30:43,250 # 2657 01:30:43,250 --> 01:30:43,142 # 2658 01:30:43,142 --> 01:30:43,253 # 2659 01:30:43,253 --> 01:30:45,253 # 2660 01:30:45,440 --> 01:30:46,474 and 2661 01:30:46,474 --> 01:30:49,474 associates to the extent of 2662 01:30:50,112 --> 01:30:53,112 public Other words are they 2663 01:30:53,514 --> 01:30:54,149 leading that process or with 2664 01:30:54,149 --> 01:30:54,749 the city be leading the public 2665 01:30:54,749 --> 01:30:55,317 interest, that process? Would 2666 01:30:55,317 --> 01:30:57,510 that be up to commissioner 2667 01:30:57,510 --> 01:30:58,153 mascot as the district 2668 01:30:58,153 --> 01:31:00,553 commissioner? Is that clear? 2669 01:31:00,555 --> 01:31:01,289 Is that clear in the task 2670 01:31:01,289 --> 01:31:01,426 order to b# 2671 01:31:01,426 --> 01:31:01,558 # 2672 01:31:01,558 --> 01:31:01,688 # 2673 01:31:01,688 --> 01:31:01,805 # 2674 01:31:01,805 --> 01:31:01,925 # 2675 01:31:01,925 --> 01:31:02,257 in a 2676 01:31:02,257 --> 01:31:03,992 substance, it's clear that 2677 01:31:03,992 --> 01:31:06,392 there will be public. 2678 01:31:06,995 --> 01:31:07,595 >> Input and process now, 2679 01:31:07,595 --> 01:31:10,633 typically how it goes, it is 2680 01:31:10,633 --> 01:31:11,467 the city will set it up lot of 2681 01:31:11,467 --> 01:31:14,236 times the consultant will have 2682 01:31:14,236 --> 01:31:15,738 just drawings and diagrams. 2683 01:31:15,738 --> 01:31:16,805 You know, you've done it where 2684 01:31:16,805 --> 01:31:18,441 people go and puts to keys on 2685 01:31:18,441 --> 01:31:22,410 a map of their ideas of what 2686 01:31:22,410 --> 01:31:24,713 thank. They like. So it's kind 2687 01:31:24,713 --> 01:31:25,381 of a combination of all of 2688 01:31:25,381 --> 01:31:27,383 taking that input and 2689 01:31:27,383 --> 01:31:28,249 gathering and putting it 2690 01:31:28,249 --> 01:31:30,510 together for conceptual plans 2691 01:31:30,510 --> 01:31:33,510 that will eventually come back 2692 01:31:34,190 --> 01:31:34,757 to this board for approval and 2693 01:31:34,757 --> 01:31:35,524 then will move forward with 2694 01:31:35,524 --> 01:31:37,524 actually buildings. Okay. 2695 01:31:39,595 --> 01:31:40,596 Commissioner Vice Mayor Yes. I 2696 01:31:40,596 --> 01:31:41,597 appreciate But I don't think 2697 01:31:41,597 --> 01:31:41,930 there's any reason for us to 2698 01:31:41,930 --> 01:31:42,440 have to pay b# 2699 01:31:42,440 --> 01:31:42,157 # 2700 01:31:42,157 --> 01:31:42,267 # 2701 01:31:42,267 --> 01:31:42,374 # 2702 01:31:42,374 --> 01:31:42,484 # 2703 01:31:42,484 --> 01:31:44,484 to go 2704 01:31:45,133 --> 01:31:45,434 listen to the public. 2705 01:31:45,434 --> 01:31:45,546 >> Input b# 2706 01:31:45,546 --> 01:31:45,657 # 2707 01:31:45,657 --> 01:31:45,773 # 2708 01:31:45,773 --> 01:31:45,881 # 2709 01:31:45,881 --> 01:31:46,200 # 2710 01:31:46,200 --> 01:31:46,669 wants to work 2711 01:31:46,669 --> 01:31:47,637 in. I'm sure they're going to 2712 01:31:47,637 --> 01:31:48,404 listen to me. Why are we going 2713 01:31:48,404 --> 01:31:48,522 to go pay b# 2714 01:31:48,522 --> 01:31:48,643 # 2715 01:31:48,643 --> 01:31:48,751 # 2716 01:31:48,751 --> 01:31:48,859 # 2717 01:31:48,859 --> 01:31:50,859 # 2718 01:31:52,342 --> 01:31:52,875 to go 2719 01:31:52,875 --> 01:31:54,377 attendant facilitate the 2720 01:31:54,377 --> 01:31:54,943 public workshops. We could do 2721 01:31:54,943 --> 01:31:55,745 that and save money. That's 2722 01:31:55,745 --> 01:31:56,346 kind of what I'm trying to 2723 01:31:56,346 --> 01:31:57,713 say. I don't think we should 2724 01:31:57,713 --> 01:31:58,781 start spending money with 2725 01:31:58,781 --> 01:32:01,650 better right now. We could go 2726 01:32:01,650 --> 01:32:01,952 do. We could gather. 2727 01:32:01,952 --> 01:32:02,451 >> The the 2728 01:32:02,451 --> 01:32:04,851 >> we could gather and 2729 01:32:05,221 --> 01:32:05,956 facilitate the public input. I 2730 01:32:05,956 --> 01:32:06,589 just don't think we're ready 2731 01:32:06,589 --> 01:32:09,359 to start spending money, their 2732 01:32:09,359 --> 01:32:10,227 issues to me. They need week 2733 01:32:10,227 --> 01:32:13,296 of that that we need to better 2734 01:32:13,296 --> 01:32:14,530 vet and then start engaging in 2735 01:32:14,530 --> 01:32:14,646 spending money with b# 2736 01:32:14,646 --> 01:32:14,770 # 2737 01:32:14,770 --> 01:32:14,892 # 2738 01:32:14,892 --> 01:32:15,200 # 2739 01:32:15,200 --> 01:32:15,116 # 2740 01:32:15,116 --> 01:32:17,116 . 2741 01:32:17,167 --> 01:32:20,136 And one other thing about the 2742 01:32:20,136 --> 01:32:20,737 postponement, I just want make 2743 01:32:20,737 --> 01:32:22,171 sure I'm I'm I'm okay with a 2744 01:32:22,171 --> 01:32:22,706 month. But is a month enough 2745 01:32:22,706 --> 01:32:25,108 vet some of these issues? 2746 01:32:25,108 --> 01:32:25,676 Maybe 2 months. I think we 2747 01:32:25,676 --> 01:32:28,178 need to look at some other 2748 01:32:28,178 --> 01:32:29,780 maybe go visit parks that have 2749 01:32:29,780 --> 01:32:31,648 artificial turf to see if that 2750 01:32:31,648 --> 01:32:32,516 works or doesn't work in just 2751 01:32:32,516 --> 01:32:36,116 want I don't know. The month 2752 01:32:36,253 --> 01:32:36,987 is MR. Mayor, if you allow, 2753 01:32:36,987 --> 01:32:38,956 yes, great, sure. I Breaux, 2754 01:32:38,956 --> 01:32:40,157 thank you, MISTER Vice Mayor. 2755 01:32:40,157 --> 01:32:41,859 >> I was going to recommend 2756 01:32:41,859 --> 01:32:42,826 that if we are going to 2757 01:32:42,826 --> 01:32:45,826 postpone that, I don't believe 2758 01:32:46,663 --> 01:32:48,331 based on the the significance 2759 01:32:48,331 --> 01:32:49,200 of SEPTEMBER and the our 2760 01:32:49,200 --> 01:32:52,200 budget. Our bandwidth will not 2761 01:32:53,700 --> 01:32:54,710 allow, in my opinion, any 2762 01:32:54,710 --> 01:32:55,172 significant movement on this 2763 01:32:55,172 --> 01:32:55,739 decision in a month 2764 01:32:55,739 --> 01:32:57,700 personally. So I would ask 2765 01:32:57,700 --> 01:32:59,409 that you give our team. We're 2766 01:32:59,409 --> 01:33:00,110 hearing the feet forward. 2767 01:33:00,110 --> 01:33:01,411 We're not disagree with that. 2768 01:33:01,411 --> 01:33:05,611 But I woods ask that if you 2769 01:33:07,952 --> 01:33:09,200 could. Extended longer or at 2770 01:33:09,200 --> 01:33:11,889 least be able to make it a 2771 01:33:11,889 --> 01:33:12,957 discussion item are happy to a 2772 01:33:12,957 --> 01:33:14,920 field in to support what we're 2773 01:33:14,920 --> 01:33:14,859 hearing today. I do not 2774 01:33:14,859 --> 01:33:16,961 believe 30 days in this 2775 01:33:16,961 --> 01:33:18,329 particular month where we have 2776 01:33:18,329 --> 01:33:19,230 2 meetings regarding the 2777 01:33:19,230 --> 01:33:23,330 budget is is going to give our 2778 01:33:23,330 --> 01:33:26,330 team enough time. Yes, that's 2779 01:33:27,710 --> 01:33:27,404 actually 27 or 28 days to the 2780 01:33:27,404 --> 01:33:29,400 next meeting. 2781 01:33:29,400 --> 01:33:30,275 >> So is there a willingness 2782 01:33:30,275 --> 01:33:31,109 to amend the motion by the 2783 01:33:31,109 --> 01:33:33,780 mover? Think it would 2784 01:33:33,780 --> 01:33:34,379 commissioner Castillo made the 2785 01:33:34,379 --> 01:33:35,813 motion. Would you be willing 2786 01:33:35,813 --> 01:33:37,916 to the motion release a 2 2787 01:33:37,916 --> 01:33:40,316 month 2 months enough? MISTER 2788 01:33:42,853 --> 01:33:44,756 Mayor. Commissioner believe 2789 01:33:44,756 --> 01:33:45,890 that. That gives a sense of 2790 01:33:45,890 --> 01:33:46,490 urgency. I do believe that 2791 01:33:46,490 --> 01:33:48,827 that gives us an opportunity 2792 01:33:48,827 --> 01:33:49,461 to at least. 2793 01:33:49,461 --> 01:33:51,863 >> Come back with that meeting 2794 01:33:51,863 --> 01:33:54,863 that was asked again, believe, 2795 01:33:55,500 --> 01:33:56,568 Doug, and thank you, Doug. He 2796 01:33:56,568 --> 01:33:57,135 articulated exactly what we 2797 01:33:57,135 --> 01:34:00,135 tried to communicate to our 2798 01:34:00,472 --> 01:34:02,700 agenda prep that this was the 2799 01:34:02,700 --> 01:34:05,700 selection of the architect to 2800 01:34:05,176 --> 01:34:06,144 start exactly what we just 2801 01:34:06,144 --> 01:34:07,812 heard today. I can understand 2802 01:34:07,812 --> 01:34:09,448 some of the sentiment of 2803 01:34:09,448 --> 01:34:10,820 pausing that. But I do think 2804 01:34:10,820 --> 01:34:13,820 60 60 days will give us enough 2805 01:34:13,252 --> 01:34:13,885 time. Yes, sir. 2806 01:34:13,885 --> 01:34:15,885 >> Commissioner message, can 2807 01:34:17,790 --> 01:34:19,825 we this postponement? Can we 2808 01:34:19,825 --> 01:34:20,993 also say that we want to 2809 01:34:20,993 --> 01:34:22,610 collect more public input and 2810 01:34:22,610 --> 01:34:24,563 have a site visit, have public 2811 01:34:24,563 --> 01:34:27,563 input at speech our weekend. 2812 01:34:29,101 --> 01:34:31,136 I'm happy to host that to get 2813 01:34:31,136 --> 01:34:31,703 public input into, you know, 2814 01:34:31,703 --> 01:34:34,473 rank the the importance of 2815 01:34:34,473 --> 01:34:35,700 what people are wanting and 2816 01:34:35,700 --> 01:34:35,541 that we can ask children 2817 01:34:35,541 --> 01:34:37,143 because they won't be in 2818 01:34:37,143 --> 01:34:38,411 school. We can ask, know, 2819 01:34:38,411 --> 01:34:40,146 anybody who wants to attend 2820 01:34:40,146 --> 01:34:41,547 like, let's hear what we have 2821 01:34:41,547 --> 01:34:43,316 from Commissioner mascot. We 2822 01:34:43,316 --> 01:34:45,184 don't need that in the motion 2823 01:34:45,184 --> 01:34:48,121 because you're going to be 2824 01:34:48,121 --> 01:34:48,688 doing that, thank you in 2825 01:34:48,688 --> 01:34:49,322 advance. All right for the 2826 01:34:49,322 --> 01:34:51,900 media, that probably will case 2827 01:34:51,900 --> 01:34:51,824 we have a motion amended by 2828 01:34:51,824 --> 01:34:52,358 the maker, the motion 2829 01:34:52,358 --> 01:34:54,693 commissioner to sue for 2 2830 01:34:54,693 --> 01:34:55,261 months, continuance to month. 2831 01:34:55,261 --> 01:34:57,130 >> By using the rate we're 2832 01:34:57,130 --> 01:34:59,530 continuing make using legal 2833 01:34:59,966 --> 01:35:01,670 speak a 2 month postponement 2834 01:35:01,670 --> 01:35:01,634 and then Commissioner Ross. 2835 01:35:01,634 --> 01:35:03,769 You think seconded? Are you 2836 01:35:03,769 --> 01:35:05,705 okay with that? Okay. I just 2837 01:35:05,705 --> 01:35:08,141 want to make 2 quick points. 2838 01:35:08,141 --> 01:35:08,708 One is those of us who 2839 01:35:08,708 --> 01:35:11,108 participated in the county 2840 01:35:12,279 --> 01:35:13,647 process for the master plan 2841 01:35:13,647 --> 01:35:15,648 when of ice maze of ice merely 2842 01:35:15,648 --> 01:35:18,480 mentioned 10, 12 years ago. We 2843 01:35:18,384 --> 01:35:21,384 remember that whole process we 2844 01:35:21,621 --> 01:35:22,254 should take another look at it 2845 01:35:22,254 --> 01:35:23,557 and why why the road was going 2846 01:35:23,557 --> 01:35:26,930 to be moved. And I want to 2847 01:35:26,930 --> 01:35:27,527 thank the speakers. But 2848 01:35:27,527 --> 01:35:28,128 remember, the road was to be 2849 01:35:28,128 --> 01:35:29,663 moved in the master plan by 2850 01:35:29,663 --> 01:35:31,898 the county in order to respect 2851 01:35:31,898 --> 01:35:34,401 the African cemetery. That was 2852 01:35:34,401 --> 01:35:35,903 part of the reason for that 2853 01:35:35,903 --> 01:35:36,970 and to make the effort 2854 01:35:36,970 --> 01:35:38,305 cemetery larger in exactly the 2855 01:35:38,305 --> 01:35:41,305 way that you are describing 2856 01:35:42,108 --> 01:35:42,743 speaking to the speakers. So 2857 01:35:42,743 --> 01:35:43,310 there's there's a precedent to 2858 01:35:43,310 --> 01:35:45,212 this, but we need to take a 2859 01:35:45,212 --> 01:35:45,812 look at that and all of these 2860 01:35:45,812 --> 01:35:46,480 things. And I think what Vice 2861 01:35:46,480 --> 01:35:49,830 Mayor Lee statements were very 2862 01:35:49,830 --> 01:35:51,619 wise that in order to give 2863 01:35:51,619 --> 01:35:52,652 proper direction to our 2864 01:35:52,652 --> 01:35:54,622 architects. We really should 2865 01:35:54,622 --> 01:35:55,655 be doing our own homework. 2866 01:35:55,655 --> 01:35:57,558 First because to commit to 2867 01:35:57,558 --> 01:35:59,793 Vice mayor least point. Is it 2868 01:35:59,793 --> 01:36:02,793 fair to the architects given 2869 01:36:02,997 --> 01:36:03,597 this task order with, you 2870 01:36:03,597 --> 01:36:05,997 know, without really knowing 2871 01:36:06,833 --> 01:36:07,401 what we want, where the client 2872 01:36:07,401 --> 01:36:08,302 their the professional are 2873 01:36:08,302 --> 01:36:10,103 they are they going to be 2874 01:36:10,103 --> 01:36:10,738 clear exactly what the scope 2875 01:36:10,738 --> 01:36:11,438 of what we want? And it's just 2876 01:36:11,438 --> 01:36:13,773 so much more to this that we 2877 01:36:13,773 --> 01:36:14,809 really need to address. So 2878 01:36:14,809 --> 01:36:15,343 commissioner mask, I want to 2879 01:36:15,343 --> 01:36:17,311 thank you in advance for 2880 01:36:17,311 --> 01:36:18,513 taking the leadership on this 2881 01:36:18,513 --> 01:36:19,147 and for organizing multiple 2882 01:36:19,147 --> 01:36:21,983 workshops and we will all look 2883 01:36:21,983 --> 01:36:22,583 forward to this with that. Can 2884 01:36:22,583 --> 01:36:26,183 you call the roll on the 2885 01:36:27,188 --> 01:36:27,622 motion Sorry, sorry. Still had 2886 01:36:27,622 --> 01:36:28,655 this on most. Okay. 2887 01:36:28,655 --> 01:36:30,655 Commissioner has cautioned 2888 01:36:31,259 --> 01:36:34,259 spawn. I don't think it's 2889 01:36:34,662 --> 01:36:37,932 necessary. What I do think is 2890 01:36:37,932 --> 01:36:38,199 necessary is additional public 2891 01:36:38,199 --> 01:36:40,199 comment. 2892 01:36:41,903 --> 01:36:42,470 >> And list of activities and 2893 01:36:42,470 --> 01:36:43,400 thank you, Commissioner Lee 2894 01:36:43,400 --> 01:36:45,840 for for bringing that up 2895 01:36:45,840 --> 01:36:47,775 because forgot to mention that 2896 01:36:47,775 --> 01:36:50,775 in their list of activities, 2897 01:36:50,778 --> 01:36:52,948 there's the planning approval 2898 01:36:52,948 --> 01:36:53,949 path that's described drc Tree 2899 01:36:53,949 --> 01:36:54,616 Commission hark, you know, all 2900 01:36:54,616 --> 01:36:56,685 the various city agencies. But 2901 01:36:56,685 --> 01:37:00,755 what needs to be in there also 2902 01:37:00,755 --> 01:37:01,856 is, is public workshop. And I 2903 01:37:01,856 --> 01:37:02,690 would like to see the public 2904 01:37:02,690 --> 01:37:04,893 workshops happened within the 2905 01:37:04,893 --> 01:37:06,894 scope of the conceptual plan. 2906 01:37:06,894 --> 01:37:07,895 If we approve this today, 2907 01:37:07,895 --> 01:37:08,496 we're not just approving a 2908 01:37:08,496 --> 01:37:10,732 We're not we're not approving 2909 01:37:10,732 --> 01:37:12,668 whether what kind of astroturf 2910 01:37:12,668 --> 01:37:14,360 whether we're using Astroturf 2911 01:37:14,360 --> 01:37:14,636 or anything. We're just 2912 01:37:14,636 --> 01:37:17,360 approving a conceptual plan, 2913 01:37:17,306 --> 01:37:20,906 but it needs to have within 2914 01:37:21,643 --> 01:37:22,770 The public workshop component. 2915 01:37:22,770 --> 01:37:23,178 So I I don't think 2916 01:37:23,178 --> 01:37:25,178 postponement is necessary 2917 01:37:25,580 --> 01:37:28,580 because I think we could 2918 01:37:29,170 --> 01:37:32,170 insert that direction if we 2919 01:37:32,254 --> 01:37:32,555 approve the expenditure today. 2920 01:37:32,555 --> 01:37:34,555 Thank you. 2921 01:37:36,225 --> 01:37:36,792 >> And keeping on the motion 2922 01:37:36,792 --> 01:37:37,526 postpone commissioner and I 2923 01:37:37,526 --> 01:37:39,600 agree with Commissioner High 2924 01:37:39,600 --> 01:37:40,620 School not meeting the 2925 01:37:40,620 --> 01:37:40,663 postponement. 2926 01:37:40,663 --> 01:37:42,965 >> And I did want to ask does 2927 01:37:42,965 --> 01:37:44,965 or staff. 2928 01:37:48,537 --> 01:37:49,305 >> Is there a savings us? 2929 01:37:49,305 --> 01:37:49,705 >> Conducting our own meetings 2930 01:37:49,705 --> 01:37:49,821 were not having b# 2931 01:37:49,821 --> 01:37:49,933 # 2932 01:37:49,933 --> 01:37:50,370 # 2933 01:37:50,370 --> 01:37:50,163 # 2934 01:37:50,163 --> 01:37:52,163 # 2935 01:37:53,443 --> 01:37:54,410 . Lead. 2936 01:37:54,410 --> 01:37:56,346 Those is their savings and us 2937 01:37:56,346 --> 01:37:59,346 doing the legwork outside of. 2938 01:37:59,782 --> 01:38:00,150 Contracting spender. MR. 2939 01:38:00,150 --> 01:38:00,616 Mayor. 2940 01:38:00,616 --> 01:38:02,616 >> Commissioner Carey, thank 2941 01:38:02,818 --> 01:38:04,419 you. It's you know, it's a 2942 01:38:04,419 --> 01:38:06,819 difficult question to answer 2943 01:38:09,792 --> 01:38:10,360 other than yes, don't 2944 01:38:10,360 --> 01:38:11,694 necessarily believe And in 2945 01:38:11,694 --> 01:38:13,630 some of the onus is on our 2946 01:38:13,630 --> 01:38:14,296 team, we MAY not have 2947 01:38:14,296 --> 01:38:16,466 articulated this correctly or 2948 01:38:16,466 --> 01:38:17,200 enough turn our agenda prep. 2949 01:38:17,200 --> 01:38:19,600 Today's decision was about 2950 01:38:19,836 --> 01:38:22,236 selecting architect. What I'm 2951 01:38:23,239 --> 01:38:25,141 hearing up here is excellent 2952 01:38:25,141 --> 01:38:25,975 points. But that was why we 2953 01:38:25,975 --> 01:38:27,444 selected. You know, we bought 2954 01:38:27,444 --> 01:38:30,444 this agenda item to selected 2955 01:38:30,913 --> 01:38:31,682 part of what is misleading 2956 01:38:31,682 --> 01:38:32,282 would be the master plan and 2957 01:38:32,282 --> 01:38:34,384 the title. So that's more on 2958 01:38:34,384 --> 01:38:36,180 us than you. But do I believe 2959 01:38:36,180 --> 01:38:37,921 that there are cost savings 2960 01:38:37,921 --> 01:38:39,690 too, stopping I'd like to 2961 01:38:39,690 --> 01:38:41,792 believe that there are some 2962 01:38:41,792 --> 01:38:44,128 do. I believe that we should 2963 01:38:44,128 --> 01:38:44,795 know. I believe that we should 2964 01:38:44,795 --> 01:38:47,795 selected. We had a staff 2965 01:38:48,599 --> 01:38:49,166 meeting about hate speech. We 2966 01:38:49,166 --> 01:38:50,834 took feet forward. And then 2967 01:38:50,834 --> 01:38:53,234 from that meeting was 2968 01:38:54,380 --> 01:38:56,139 direction to host and on site 2969 01:38:56,139 --> 01:38:58,108 meeting. So we said, okay, 2970 01:38:58,108 --> 01:38:59,977 excellent. We will do that. 2971 01:38:59,977 --> 01:39:02,977 Let's bring an architect on 2972 01:39:03,147 --> 01:39:04,448 board to do that as well. But 2973 01:39:04,448 --> 01:39:07,251 at this point, I believe we 2974 01:39:07,251 --> 01:39:07,785 are going in the right 2975 01:39:07,785 --> 01:39:10,253 direction of what was not 2976 01:39:10,253 --> 01:39:10,988 mentioned is there's other 2977 01:39:10,988 --> 01:39:11,789 elements regarding big speech 2978 01:39:11,789 --> 01:39:14,492 in a master plan that still 2979 01:39:14,492 --> 01:39:16,940 need to be answered that have 2980 01:39:16,940 --> 01:39:18,796 not been discussed right now. 2981 01:39:18,796 --> 01:39:20,664 So our team's approach was not 2982 01:39:20,664 --> 01:39:21,266 to select an architect and 2983 01:39:21,266 --> 01:39:24,266 then turn around deliver some 2984 01:39:25,236 --> 01:39:25,837 type of rendering. It was to 2985 01:39:25,837 --> 01:39:28,237 get professional involved in 2986 01:39:31,209 --> 01:39:32,243 this process early to help our 2987 01:39:32,243 --> 01:39:32,911 team started to assimilate the 2988 01:39:32,911 --> 01:39:35,311 information and provide some 2989 01:39:35,379 --> 01:39:37,779 some renderings. But long 2990 01:39:38,249 --> 01:39:39,317 answer to a short question. I 2991 01:39:39,317 --> 01:39:40,151 don't know if we're going to 2992 01:39:40,151 --> 01:39:41,686 be saving much by putting the 2993 01:39:41,686 --> 01:39:42,520 60 days if we come to 16, a 2994 01:39:42,520 --> 01:39:45,520 decision and say let's elect 2995 01:39:48,426 --> 01:39:50,428 him in 60 days. But if we now, 2996 01:39:50,428 --> 01:39:51,363 we can still do all the things 2997 01:39:51,363 --> 01:39:51,930 we're talking about. Could 2998 01:39:51,930 --> 01:39:53,464 slow down. We could say we 2999 01:39:53,464 --> 01:39:55,464 want to have. 3000 01:39:56,434 --> 01:39:57,736 >> I believe like meeting is 3001 01:39:57,736 --> 01:40:00,736 we wanted visit some turf 3002 01:40:01,840 --> 01:40:02,407 parks. Well, we we are driving 3003 01:40:02,407 --> 01:40:02,940 the bus on this. So, yes, I 3004 01:40:02,940 --> 01:40:03,408 believe we can do all the 3005 01:40:03,408 --> 01:40:05,808 things that you just 3006 01:40:06,577 --> 01:40:08,577 mentioned. 3007 01:40:10,480 --> 01:40:10,782 >> All right. Thank you okay. 3008 01:40:10,782 --> 01:40:11,349 MADAM Clerk, when you're 3009 01:40:11,349 --> 01:40:11,983 available, can we call the 3010 01:40:11,983 --> 01:40:15,583 roll on the motion to postpone 3011 01:40:17,322 --> 01:40:18,757 for 2 months? Okay. So this is 3012 01:40:18,757 --> 01:40:20,426 to postpone to NOVEMBER 5th. 3013 01:40:20,426 --> 01:40:21,927 Yes, Okay. Commissioner Carey 3014 01:40:21,927 --> 01:40:23,762 know Commissioner Casteel. 3015 01:40:23,762 --> 01:40:25,762 Commissioner Haskell know 3016 01:40:27,566 --> 01:40:28,233 Commissioner Lee. Yes, 3017 01:40:28,233 --> 01:40:29,401 commissioner mascot. Yes. 3018 01:40:29,401 --> 01:40:31,401 Commissioner Ross Mayor 3019 01:40:33,838 --> 01:40:34,873 Coffman. Yes. Motion passes. 3020 01:40:34,873 --> 01:40:37,273 Item number. 24 approving the 3021 01:40:39,244 --> 01:40:39,845 fiscal year 2026. 2027 Tree 3022 01:40:39,845 --> 01:40:40,413 Commission and Urban Forester 3023 01:40:40,413 --> 01:40:40,913 for Street. I'm sorry, I'm 3024 01:40:40,913 --> 01:40:43,313 reading the wrong one. 3025 01:40:43,649 --> 01:40:45,649 >> Item number, 24. Approving 3026 01:40:46,217 --> 01:40:46,886 the fiscal year 2026. To 2027 3027 01:40:46,886 --> 01:40:47,486 city Marina, a garrison bite 3028 01:40:47,486 --> 01:40:50,289 fees and collection that you 3029 01:40:50,289 --> 01:40:52,291 will. Has attached here too. 3030 01:40:52,291 --> 01:40:53,458 And made a part of here. Okay. 3031 01:40:53,458 --> 01:40:55,858 I think Commissioner Haskell, 3032 01:40:56,929 --> 01:40:59,929 you pull I do. And. 3033 01:41:00,990 --> 01:41:01,670 >> But MR. Pulled it I'm 3034 01:41:01,670 --> 01:41:02,869 sorry, See something like We 3035 01:41:02,869 --> 01:41:03,636 like to start off you worked 3036 01:41:03,636 --> 01:41:08,140 on this, too. So I want to get 3037 01:41:08,140 --> 01:41:08,641 some input from you. It's very 3038 01:41:08,641 --> 01:41:10,641 important issue, inner 3039 01:41:12,612 --> 01:41:14,681 structure. There's a can you 3040 01:41:14,681 --> 01:41:15,381 explain that and that is part 3041 01:41:15,381 --> 01:41:18,981 of the charter boats and not 3042 01:41:25,725 --> 01:41:26,326 to live aboard. Commissioner. 3043 01:41:26,326 --> 01:41:28,326 Mayor commissioners, they've 3044 01:41:30,530 --> 01:41:32,698 marsicano port bring services. 3045 01:41:32,698 --> 01:41:36,298 It's addressed. See in and the 3046 01:41:36,737 --> 01:41:38,805 rain, a slipper rates that is 3047 01:41:38,805 --> 01:41:39,338 for the boards and for the 3048 01:41:39,338 --> 01:41:41,338 commercial charter bureau 3049 01:41:42,341 --> 01:41:45,341 customers. So live awards that 3050 01:41:49,160 --> 01:41:53,216 are on that are on That would 3051 01:41:53,921 --> 01:41:58,121 be to. What well, the of King 3052 01:41:58,792 --> 01:41:59,793 fish pier that they're all pay 3053 01:41:59,793 --> 01:42:00,393 the dollar afoot. 3054 01:42:00,393 --> 01:42:02,793 Infrastructure along with the 3055 01:42:06,867 --> 01:42:09,867 charter boat row customers. A 3056 01:42:10,704 --> 01:42:11,605 little foggy on this. But the 3057 01:42:11,605 --> 01:42:14,308 purpose of this And just so 3058 01:42:14,308 --> 01:42:15,750 everybody knows gears some 3059 01:42:15,750 --> 01:42:18,112 bite has its own fund. It's 3060 01:42:18,112 --> 01:42:22,312 not a part of the city. Are 3061 01:42:22,917 --> 01:42:25,860 near and dear to me. But so 3062 01:42:25,860 --> 01:42:25,686 dollar every month is at work 3063 01:42:25,686 --> 01:42:29,286 or didn't her foot per month. 3064 01:42:29,923 --> 01:42:30,558 Yes. And Fi. That to believe 3065 01:42:30,558 --> 01:42:34,158 that's been in effect for many 3066 01:42:37,832 --> 01:42:38,400 years. And the questions we're 3067 01:42:38,400 --> 01:42:39,499 asking. That's unfortunate. 3068 01:42:39,499 --> 01:42:43,990 Living goods to me on System. 3069 01:42:43,204 --> 01:42:46,204 Book. You're proposing for a 3070 01:42:49,644 --> 01:42:50,478 yearly Lee's. That was all 3071 01:42:50,478 --> 01:42:52,878 discussed when the commission 3072 01:42:54,883 --> 01:42:56,318 approve to live aboard leases 3073 01:42:56,318 --> 01:42:56,952 that's not all of this stuff 3074 01:42:56,952 --> 01:43:00,221 that you see before you today, 3075 01:43:00,221 --> 01:43:02,123 has been voted on from the 3076 01:43:02,123 --> 01:43:03,492 commission before. And this is 3077 01:43:03,492 --> 01:43:05,393 really kind of a housekeeping 3078 01:43:05,393 --> 01:43:06,294 type of thing for our 3079 01:43:06,294 --> 01:43:06,861 department and having our fees 3080 01:43:06,861 --> 01:43:07,829 and collection that you all 3081 01:43:07,829 --> 01:43:09,829 actually approved yearly. 3082 01:43:12,700 --> 01:43:14,536 >> But your lease, I was Maybe 3083 01:43:14,536 --> 01:43:16,638 longer or were will or 3084 01:43:16,638 --> 01:43:17,206 something, you know, when 3085 01:43:17,206 --> 01:43:20,806 years, not long going to be 3086 01:43:21,742 --> 01:43:23,440 honest with you. Mean. He 3087 01:43:23,440 --> 01:43:23,712 should give some type comfort 3088 01:43:23,712 --> 01:43:26,712 to the residents there for, 3089 01:43:28,183 --> 01:43:29,518 you know, with the renewal. Or 3090 01:43:29,518 --> 01:43:30,850 up to 3 years. You know, I 3091 01:43:30,850 --> 01:43:32,788 jumped into this late, I'm 3092 01:43:32,788 --> 01:43:35,724 sorry, but that's very dear 3093 01:43:35,724 --> 01:43:36,292 near tomorrow. Yet. 3094 01:43:36,292 --> 01:43:38,692 >> said probably could give 3095 01:43:39,495 --> 01:43:40,610 some background the commission 3096 01:43:40,610 --> 01:43:42,964 spent a lot of time in the 3097 01:43:42,964 --> 01:43:47,164 last year on this I mean, a 3098 01:43:47,737 --> 01:43:50,573 lot of time. We had we have 3099 01:43:50,573 --> 01:43:51,807 reached an agreement with the 3100 01:43:51,807 --> 01:43:52,942 tenant association. So those 3101 01:43:52,942 --> 01:43:53,476 yet those are the good it's a 3102 01:43:53,476 --> 01:43:54,977 good it's that's the good 3103 01:43:54,977 --> 01:43:58,577 news. I think that for the 3104 01:43:58,614 --> 01:43:59,448 purpose of this item. 3105 01:43:59,448 --> 01:43:59,981 >> This as as our staff person 3106 01:43:59,981 --> 01:44:02,981 has stated, this is for 3107 01:44:03,920 --> 01:44:04,453 housekeeping. I think that. 3108 01:44:04,453 --> 01:44:05,722 >> 4 for any changes. We 3109 01:44:05,722 --> 01:44:07,356 probably should re-engage with 3110 01:44:07,356 --> 01:44:08,824 the tennis Association. I 3111 01:44:08,824 --> 01:44:10,526 would would lean on you for 3112 01:44:10,526 --> 01:44:11,426 that or a plan to get and then 3113 01:44:11,426 --> 01:44:11,961 we could bring back additional 3114 01:44:11,961 --> 01:44:14,463 items. But I think you're 3115 01:44:14,463 --> 01:44:15,630 right. I mean, that's 3116 01:44:15,630 --> 01:44:17,463 something actually we talked 3117 01:44:17,500 --> 01:44:18,801 about is a longer term lease. 3118 01:44:18,801 --> 01:44:22,572 But this is what we settled on 3119 01:44:22,572 --> 01:44:23,173 in a in a very long negotiated 3120 01:44:23,173 --> 01:44:23,773 process with the 10. And so I 3121 01:44:23,773 --> 01:44:26,709 think for now for this item, 3122 01:44:26,709 --> 01:44:27,243 we could go forward. But I've 3123 01:44:27,243 --> 01:44:27,844 certainly appreciate your 3124 01:44:27,844 --> 01:44:29,846 willingness to go to bat for 3125 01:44:29,846 --> 01:44:32,846 the tenant. So let's that 3126 01:44:33,750 --> 01:44:34,718 discussion going. 3127 01:44:34,718 --> 01:44:37,353 >> With move to approve. But 3128 01:44:37,353 --> 01:44:37,954 do want to come back in 3129 01:44:37,954 --> 01:44:40,723 >> This is just again second. 3130 01:44:40,723 --> 01:44:42,526 Yes, sir. Want that on the 3131 01:44:42,526 --> 01:44:44,926 record. Please great anymore. 3132 01:44:46,696 --> 01:44:48,966 Discussion. Move for approval. 3133 01:44:48,966 --> 01:44:49,665 So we have a motion by see a 3134 01:44:49,665 --> 01:44:51,665 second by commissioner 3135 01:44:51,702 --> 01:44:54,702 Castillo Please call the Roll 3136 01:44:55,406 --> 01:44:56,406 Commissioner Carey. Yes. 3137 01:44:56,406 --> 01:44:57,674 Commissioner Castillo. Yes, 3138 01:44:57,674 --> 01:44:58,542 commissioner Haskell. Yes. 3139 01:44:58,542 --> 01:44:59,476 Commissioner Lee. Yes. 3140 01:44:59,476 --> 01:45:01,344 Commissioner mascot. Yes. 3141 01:45:01,344 --> 01:45:02,790 Commissioner Ross Yes. Mayor 3142 01:45:02,790 --> 01:45:04,479 cough. Yes. Motion passes. 3143 01:45:05,883 --> 01:45:07,170 Item number. 27 authorizing 3144 01:45:07,170 --> 01:45:09,860 the city manager pursuant to 3145 01:45:09,860 --> 01:45:09,753 Section 2 Dash 7, 9, 7, 4, b 3146 01:45:09,753 --> 01:45:12,589 of the code of ordinances. 3147 01:45:12,589 --> 01:45:14,391 Exact contractual services. 3148 01:45:14,391 --> 01:45:15,259 >> To accept a renewal of the 3149 01:45:15,259 --> 01:45:15,826 city's ancillary insurance 3150 01:45:15,826 --> 01:45:18,826 policies. An amount not to 3151 01:45:21,865 --> 01:45:22,700 exceed 156,000 underground and 3152 01:45:22,700 --> 01:45:24,668 brown marina operators, legal 3153 01:45:24,668 --> 01:45:26,137 liability coverage all excess 3154 01:45:26,137 --> 01:45:26,737 liability coverage, more 3155 01:45:26,737 --> 01:45:28,737 fingers, liability coverage, 3156 01:45:29,600 --> 01:45:31,600 Holland, machine machinery 3157 01:45:31,675 --> 01:45:33,675 coverage. Pollution Dnd 3158 01:45:33,978 --> 01:45:35,978 coverage, pollution liability 3159 01:45:36,470 --> 01:45:38,447 coverage and storage tank 3160 01:45:38,983 --> 01:45:39,783 liability coverage and from 3161 01:45:39,783 --> 01:45:40,418 world Rist risk management, 3162 01:45:40,418 --> 01:45:42,753 Westchester Fire insurance for 3163 01:45:42,753 --> 01:45:44,556 aircraft. Drone coverage and 3164 01:45:44,556 --> 01:45:46,758 ace American insurance Company 3165 01:45:46,758 --> 01:45:48,626 for Florida firefighter cancer 3166 01:45:48,626 --> 01:45:49,793 coverage authorizing the 3167 01:45:49,793 --> 01:45:51,595 acceptance of Brown and Brown 3168 01:45:51,595 --> 01:45:52,230 as the agent and broker for 3169 01:45:52,230 --> 01:45:54,320 the city's ancillary policies. 3170 01:45:54,320 --> 01:45:55,833 With the exception of drone 3171 01:45:55,833 --> 01:45:58,233 coverage in Florida, Fire 3172 01:45:58,937 --> 01:45:59,971 fighter cancer coverage. 3173 01:45:59,971 --> 01:46:01,273 Authorizing the city manager 3174 01:46:01,273 --> 01:46:02,730 to execute all documents 3175 01:46:02,730 --> 01:46:04,676 consistent there with upon the 3176 01:46:04,676 --> 01:46:05,277 advice and consent of the city 3177 01:46:05,277 --> 01:46:06,511 attorney. Thank you, right in 3178 01:46:06,511 --> 01:46:09,511 here that can repeat that. 3179 01:46:14,585 --> 01:46:16,880 Please who? Who pulled It was. 3180 01:46:16,880 --> 01:46:16,654 It commissioner has cut Ties 3181 01:46:16,654 --> 01:46:19,570 for everyone having to sit 3182 01:46:19,570 --> 01:46:21,570 through that recitation. 3183 01:46:21,727 --> 01:46:22,861 >> And Kerry for giving it an 3184 01:46:22,861 --> 01:46:23,427 down. I notice something after 3185 01:46:23,427 --> 01:46:25,827 the agenda setting meeting 3186 01:46:29,634 --> 01:46:30,202 that we had I notice a lot of 3187 01:46:30,202 --> 01:46:32,738 they insurance is a marine 3188 01:46:32,738 --> 01:46:33,972 oriented. So I would love 3189 01:46:33,972 --> 01:46:35,941 okay. We have police boat and 3190 01:46:35,941 --> 01:46:37,142 all that kind of But why are 3191 01:46:37,142 --> 01:46:38,577 we paying insurance at the 3192 01:46:38,577 --> 01:46:40,977 outer mole? Haven't we? 7 3193 01:46:43,249 --> 01:46:43,816 United r a but you yeah, have 3194 01:46:43,816 --> 01:46:44,383 always separated our 3195 01:46:44,383 --> 01:46:46,752 relationship with the other 3196 01:46:46,752 --> 01:46:47,385 mall at this time. 3197 01:46:47,385 --> 01:46:50,985 >> Can we have a response from 3198 01:46:51,223 --> 01:46:51,823 staff or legal to MR. Maher, 3199 01:46:51,823 --> 01:46:52,424 we have lore with the support 3200 01:46:52,424 --> 01:46:54,824 that thank you, Commissioner 3201 01:46:59,465 --> 01:47:01,670 Haskell. 3202 01:47:01,670 --> 01:47:04,670 >> Okay. So actually I'm Laura 3203 01:47:04,837 --> 01:47:05,438 with risk management. But 3204 01:47:05,438 --> 01:47:06,539 Christine and I were taking a 3205 01:47:06,539 --> 01:47:10,509 look at this. And so, yes, the 3206 01:47:10,509 --> 01:47:13,509 cruise ship revenue for Pierre 3207 01:47:14,280 --> 01:47:16,216 it should not be included, but 3208 01:47:16,216 --> 01:47:17,449 we did not feel the need to 3209 01:47:17,449 --> 01:47:19,652 remove the Outer Mall excess 3210 01:47:19,652 --> 01:47:21,921 liability because this is an 3211 01:47:21,921 --> 01:47:23,289 extra layer of coverage is 3212 01:47:23,289 --> 01:47:26,889 based off of our main coverage 3213 01:47:28,128 --> 01:47:29,428 for general Purposes. 3214 01:47:29,428 --> 01:47:30,429 >> And so I thought it's 3215 01:47:30,429 --> 01:47:31,300 basically or more so because 3216 01:47:31,300 --> 01:47:33,967 we do have the boat races out 3217 01:47:33,967 --> 01:47:38,167 there. So it's kind to me like 3218 01:47:38,238 --> 01:47:38,839 an extra. Just in case, if 3219 01:47:38,839 --> 01:47:41,839 anything does happen, type of 3220 01:47:42,242 --> 01:47:43,543 deal. 3221 01:47:43,543 --> 01:47:45,111 >> And it's something that we 3222 01:47:45,111 --> 01:47:45,746 can cancel just at this time. 3223 01:47:45,746 --> 01:47:47,714 We. 3224 01:47:47,714 --> 01:47:50,149 >> We were kind of still in 3225 01:47:50,149 --> 01:47:50,883 flux with the lease and what's 3226 01:47:50,883 --> 01:47:51,684 going on with it. So we didn't 3227 01:47:51,684 --> 01:47:53,185 want to cancel it yet. So that 3228 01:47:53,185 --> 01:47:53,653 would be probably in the next 3229 01:47:53,653 --> 01:47:56,530 year unless you give 3230 01:47:57,957 --> 01:47:59,260 direction. Otherwise. Well, 3231 01:47:59,260 --> 01:48:02,260 that makes sense because, you 3232 01:48:02,960 --> 01:48:04,131 know, as it is a risk manager, 3233 01:48:04,131 --> 01:48:06,967 err on the side of caution. 3234 01:48:06,967 --> 01:48:09,436 Yes. And but now that. 3235 01:48:09,436 --> 01:48:10,300 >> It's said and done and we 3236 01:48:10,300 --> 01:48:13,207 don't have a lease with the 3237 01:48:13,207 --> 01:48:16,100 animal. If we're paying for 3238 01:48:16,100 --> 01:48:18,410 this insurance. Strictly for 3239 01:48:18,479 --> 01:48:22,790 the power boaters. I think we 3240 01:48:22,249 --> 01:48:23,217 should pass along the costs. 3241 01:48:23,217 --> 01:48:26,817 >> We can either we can do 3242 01:48:27,187 --> 01:48:28,456 that or we can exclude it. 3243 01:48:28,456 --> 01:48:29,990 From that policy. We kind of 3244 01:48:29,990 --> 01:48:30,558 went back and forth with the 3245 01:48:30,558 --> 01:48:34,158 carrier on. If we wanted to 3246 01:48:34,828 --> 01:48:37,228 remove that location entirely. 3247 01:48:37,732 --> 01:48:39,833 >> And we've had white sand 3248 01:48:39,833 --> 01:48:40,768 2020. We've still maintain 3249 01:48:40,768 --> 01:48:41,369 coverage is with the outer 3250 01:48:41,369 --> 01:48:44,969 mole even with the Navy, with 3251 01:48:45,173 --> 01:48:46,741 the rep with their revenue. 3252 01:48:46,741 --> 01:48:47,307 >> Which I think we estimate 3253 01:48:47,307 --> 01:48:50,307 it was 2 million know, get 3254 01:48:50,678 --> 01:48:51,846 2 Million. 3255 01:48:51,846 --> 01:48:53,247 >> But again, this is where 3256 01:48:53,247 --> 01:48:56,183 with city and with the 3257 01:48:56,183 --> 01:48:58,219 commission and mayor. And if 3258 01:48:58,219 --> 01:48:59,586 we see that there is a need to 3259 01:48:59,586 --> 01:49:01,823 exclude it, I can definitely 3260 01:49:01,823 --> 01:49:03,858 do so. And we could always add 3261 01:49:03,858 --> 01:49:05,460 that policy later or and 3262 01:49:05,460 --> 01:49:06,260 another fiscal year. If we 3263 01:49:06,260 --> 01:49:08,163 decide that we want to have 3264 01:49:08,163 --> 01:49:09,531 that extra coverage of that 3265 01:49:09,531 --> 01:49:11,766 extra layer and if not, we 3266 01:49:11,766 --> 01:49:15,303 could keep it and still have 3267 01:49:15,303 --> 01:49:17,539 that as an extra and offset 3268 01:49:17,539 --> 01:49:19,373 course. I'm all about 3269 01:49:19,373 --> 01:49:19,874 offsetting claims in assets 3270 01:49:19,874 --> 01:49:22,411 costs. We can have that 3271 01:49:22,411 --> 01:49:22,978 discussion. 3272 01:49:22,978 --> 01:49:25,378 >> Thank you, Steph. Coming 3273 01:49:26,715 --> 01:49:27,482 here from downs. Yes, thank 3274 01:49:27,482 --> 01:49:28,683 you. I I would strongly 3275 01:49:28,683 --> 01:49:30,683 recommend against cutting 3276 01:49:31,720 --> 01:49:32,200 coverage on the spot. And 3277 01:49:32,200 --> 01:49:34,200 here's why. 3278 01:49:34,756 --> 01:49:36,492 >> All that is covered here is 3279 01:49:36,492 --> 01:49:37,126 access coverage and people who 3280 01:49:37,126 --> 01:49:39,526 spend their times with 3281 01:49:39,827 --> 01:49:40,628 insurance policies know that 3282 01:49:40,628 --> 01:49:43,280 you often get insurance 3283 01:49:43,231 --> 01:49:45,701 coverage in layers. And so, 3284 01:49:45,701 --> 01:49:47,636 for example, you might have 3285 01:49:47,636 --> 01:49:48,871 certain amount of coverage on 3286 01:49:48,871 --> 01:49:50,906 your car, but you might also 3287 01:49:50,906 --> 01:49:53,306 have excess coverage that 3288 01:49:54,900 --> 01:49:55,110 gives you additional coverage. 3289 01:49:55,110 --> 01:49:58,147 And when you disrupt a layer 3290 01:49:58,147 --> 01:50:00,547 and leave it uncovered, 3291 01:50:01,317 --> 01:50:03,419 insurers don't like that. And 3292 01:50:03,419 --> 01:50:04,987 sometimes there can be an 3293 01:50:04,987 --> 01:50:05,854 unintended consequence. But 3294 01:50:05,854 --> 01:50:07,857 here's my suggestion because 3295 01:50:07,857 --> 01:50:09,525 commissioner, how school 3296 01:50:09,525 --> 01:50:10,827 you're right. If feel the need 3297 01:50:10,827 --> 01:50:13,227 to maintain this excess 3298 01:50:13,496 --> 01:50:15,531 coverage because of the boat 3299 01:50:15,531 --> 01:50:18,301 races, we should isolate that 3300 01:50:18,301 --> 01:50:18,935 costs and pass it on or at 3301 01:50:18,935 --> 01:50:22,338 least consider it when you all 3302 01:50:22,338 --> 01:50:23,473 decide to proceed with that. 3303 01:50:23,473 --> 01:50:27,730 But my request would be that 3304 01:50:27,977 --> 01:50:28,778 approve this item and ask your 3305 01:50:28,778 --> 01:50:30,747 insurance professionals to 3306 01:50:30,747 --> 01:50:32,114 work with risk management to 3307 01:50:32,114 --> 01:50:33,583 make sure that we understand 3308 01:50:33,583 --> 01:50:36,419 the cost of that. Our more 3309 01:50:36,419 --> 01:50:37,187 coverage, whether we need it 3310 01:50:37,187 --> 01:50:40,589 and be sure we don't disrupt 3311 01:50:40,589 --> 01:50:41,157 any layer of coverage. And 3312 01:50:41,157 --> 01:50:44,270 also in doing that, we can 3313 01:50:44,270 --> 01:50:46,427 isolate the costs. Usually 3314 01:50:47,731 --> 01:50:48,298 putting access on top of 3315 01:50:48,298 --> 01:50:50,433 regular coverage is very 3316 01:50:50,433 --> 01:50:51,568 inexpensive. Given the risk 3317 01:50:51,568 --> 01:50:52,202 you're covering. But I don't 3318 01:50:52,202 --> 01:50:55,372 know, but I just don't want us 3319 01:50:55,372 --> 01:50:55,905 to do it. Without the benefit 3320 01:50:55,905 --> 01:50:57,873 of the insurance company. 3321 01:50:57,873 --> 01:50:58,475 Looking carefully at the 3322 01:50:58,475 --> 01:51:01,475 impact. Does that make sense? 3323 01:51:02,145 --> 01:51:04,481 I think so. Yeah. You can say 3324 01:51:04,481 --> 01:51:05,150 one more thing. Just real 3325 01:51:05,150 --> 01:51:07,550 quick. Yes. And with the 3326 01:51:07,550 --> 01:51:08,519 agreement for the Navy. 3327 01:51:08,519 --> 01:51:11,519 >> They are required to hold 3328 01:51:13,356 --> 01:51:13,990 their own insurance as well as 3329 01:51:13,990 --> 01:51:15,250 >> The boat races on that does 3330 01:51:15,250 --> 01:51:15,626 come through every year 3331 01:51:15,626 --> 01:51:18,626 through the special event for 3332 01:51:19,960 --> 01:51:20,698 what their coverages are. So 3333 01:51:20,698 --> 01:51:23,698 like she said, it's extra 3334 01:51:24,268 --> 01:51:24,869 layer. It's excess policy. 3335 01:51:24,869 --> 01:51:28,469 Again, it's that just in case 3336 01:51:30,941 --> 01:51:34,541 I like to have that little 3337 01:51:34,912 --> 01:51:36,681 especially to it being up here 3338 01:51:36,681 --> 01:51:37,281 and looking at any type a 3339 01:51:37,281 --> 01:51:39,681 general liability coverage is 3340 01:51:40,550 --> 01:51:41,219 or liability claims it would 3341 01:51:41,219 --> 01:51:43,988 offset to them first with 3342 01:51:43,988 --> 01:51:46,423 their insurance is and then if 3343 01:51:46,423 --> 01:51:49,423 the claim exceeds those limits 3344 01:51:50,662 --> 01:51:51,262 or those. Types of Hale's, 3345 01:51:51,262 --> 01:51:53,665 then they would look at it at 3346 01:51:53,665 --> 01:51:57,265 an excess layer. In the past, 3347 01:51:59,637 --> 01:52:00,204 I can't. I have not seen. Any 3348 01:52:00,204 --> 01:52:01,706 types of claims coming from 3349 01:52:01,706 --> 01:52:05,777 this area or due to this event 3350 01:52:05,777 --> 01:52:08,777 in particular. But again, it's 3351 01:52:11,249 --> 01:52:11,816 it's a safeguard. So if I 3352 01:52:11,816 --> 01:52:12,517 might request to be sure we 3353 01:52:12,517 --> 01:52:13,510 don't have any lapse in 3354 01:52:13,510 --> 01:52:15,510 coverage. 3355 01:52:15,253 --> 01:52:17,155 >> And we have the coverage in 3356 01:52:17,155 --> 01:52:18,757 place. We would respectfully 3357 01:52:18,757 --> 01:52:19,990 request you approve this 3358 01:52:19,990 --> 01:52:23,528 agenda item and ask your staff 3359 01:52:23,528 --> 01:52:24,262 to come back with a 3360 01:52:24,262 --> 01:52:26,564 recommendation from both your 3361 01:52:26,564 --> 01:52:27,699 risk managers and Brown about 3362 01:52:27,699 --> 01:52:29,233 whether you need that 3363 01:52:29,233 --> 01:52:32,233 additional layer, how much it 3364 01:52:33,905 --> 01:52:34,506 is and sure that whatever 3365 01:52:34,506 --> 01:52:36,575 special activities that occur 3366 01:52:36,575 --> 01:52:38,710 that might increase the costs, 3367 01:52:38,710 --> 01:52:39,510 that we're passing those on 3368 01:52:39,510 --> 01:52:41,910 appropriately. So that would 3369 01:52:43,983 --> 01:52:45,150 be our offices Is it just a 3370 01:52:45,150 --> 01:52:46,685 >> move? This along? Is there 3371 01:52:46,685 --> 01:52:47,286 a motion to approve 3372 01:52:47,286 --> 01:52:49,286 incorporating those comments 3373 01:52:50,890 --> 01:52:50,723 from our city attorney? I 3374 01:52:50,723 --> 01:52:52,991 can't make a motion that I can 3375 01:52:52,991 --> 01:52:53,591 ask you to make So 3376 01:52:53,591 --> 01:52:55,991 Commissioner Carey makes that 3377 01:52:57,195 --> 01:52:57,696 motion. Is there a second? I 3378 01:52:57,696 --> 01:52:58,263 heard a vice Mayor Lee 3379 01:52:58,263 --> 01:53:00,199 seconds. Okay. Commissioner 3380 01:53:00,199 --> 01:53:02,199 Haskell. 3381 01:53:04,235 --> 01:53:05,271 >> Yes, I'd like to expand 3382 01:53:05,271 --> 01:53:07,139 that direction that if we are 3383 01:53:07,139 --> 01:53:07,806 paying some kind of, you know, 3384 01:53:07,806 --> 01:53:09,806 underline general liability 3385 01:53:11,277 --> 01:53:14,277 insurance all that is the 3386 01:53:14,280 --> 01:53:15,714 layer beneath this excess lair 3387 01:53:15,714 --> 01:53:16,314 that we look at that like when 3388 01:53:16,314 --> 01:53:19,318 do we need that? If we don't 3389 01:53:19,318 --> 01:53:20,219 have a relationship without 3390 01:53:20,219 --> 01:53:20,820 him? 3391 01:53:20,820 --> 01:53:21,421 >> Looks like we're not. This 3392 01:53:21,421 --> 01:53:24,421 is only access coverage get 3393 01:53:24,691 --> 01:53:26,526 less over past 2 Yeah. Just to 3394 01:53:26,526 --> 01:53:29,429 be sure. And we'll ask them to 3395 01:53:29,429 --> 01:53:29,995 report back on. That's ok, so 3396 01:53:29,995 --> 01:53:30,562 used to just one seconds of 3397 01:53:30,562 --> 01:53:32,962 Commissioner Carey. Are you 3398 01:53:33,366 --> 01:53:34,000 okay with that amendment? To 3399 01:53:34,000 --> 01:53:34,601 look at the underlying Haskell 3400 01:53:34,601 --> 01:53:37,100 know Commissioner Kerry made 3401 01:53:38,271 --> 01:53:39,405 the motion. 3402 01:53:39,405 --> 01:53:39,973 >> Looking at the stats just 3403 01:53:39,973 --> 01:53:42,242 stated that that is not the 3404 01:53:42,242 --> 01:53:45,779 case, correct? So this look at 3405 01:53:45,779 --> 01:53:49,820 it. He looked at it. Going to 3406 01:53:49,820 --> 01:53:52,152 look at it again. Sure about 3407 01:53:52,152 --> 01:53:53,787 that. And I think Vice Mayor 3408 01:53:53,787 --> 01:53:56,590 Lee second, he's okay with the 3409 01:53:56,590 --> 01:53:57,223 amendment. So first of 3410 01:53:57,223 --> 01:53:57,858 foremost, MADAM Clerk, are you 3411 01:53:57,858 --> 01:54:01,161 clear in the motion or did you 3412 01:54:01,161 --> 01:54:04,161 clarification? I think I saw 3413 01:54:04,498 --> 01:54:06,898 commissioner mask a Okay. 3414 01:54:07,468 --> 01:54:08,368 Commissioner Haskell 3415 01:54:08,368 --> 01:54:08,969 Commissioner 3416 01:54:08,969 --> 01:54:11,969 >> I once again, what's cost 3417 01:54:15,375 --> 01:54:15,976 of this? Little 12,015 a 3418 01:54:15,976 --> 01:54:19,113 little The cost of the policy 3419 01:54:19,113 --> 01:54:19,712 is 12,000. 3420 01:54:19,712 --> 01:54:23,283 >> does. And then what is the 3421 01:54:23,283 --> 01:54:25,683 million dollars? How much 3422 01:54:32,293 --> 01:54:32,893 >> For the Asian Usually it's 3423 01:54:32,893 --> 01:54:36,493 up to a million dollars in 3424 01:54:37,231 --> 01:54:37,832 coverage us right. 3425 01:54:37,832 --> 01:54:40,232 >> With there's no deductible 3426 01:54:45,473 --> 01:54:46,273 on it. See, other question. 3427 01:54:46,273 --> 01:54:48,673 >> it's it's 44 million of 3428 01:54:49,430 --> 01:54:51,430 accessible, 1 million policy. 3429 01:54:51,145 --> 01:54:53,545 So access liability, you're 3430 01:54:54,749 --> 01:54:58,349 going from axis. Access to the 3431 01:54:59,153 --> 01:55:00,454 care. Do have access to axis. 3432 01:55:00,454 --> 01:55:01,389 That's the companies that 3433 01:55:01,389 --> 01:55:04,989 doing it. Yes, the bomb, the 3434 01:55:05,660 --> 01:55:06,227 company 3435 01:55:06,227 --> 01:55:07,594 >> The company is Brown and 3436 01:55:07,594 --> 01:55:08,763 Brown and then they go out to 3437 01:55:08,763 --> 01:55:11,163 underwriters so than the 3438 01:55:11,232 --> 01:55:11,799 underwriters provide the 3439 01:55:11,799 --> 01:55:12,400 individual policies of the 3440 01:55:12,400 --> 01:55:14,301 person I reached out to over 3441 01:55:14,301 --> 01:55:14,936 diet or oversee use the 3442 01:55:14,936 --> 01:55:17,370 putting together. The proposal 3443 01:55:17,370 --> 01:55:19,370 is brown 3444 01:55:20,575 --> 01:55:23,575 >> And it's just one question. 3445 01:55:25,347 --> 01:55:25,947 Are we still are Brian, words 3446 01:55:25,947 --> 01:55:28,183 are congested. So the public 3447 01:55:28,183 --> 01:55:29,917 knows I was you wanted to what 3448 01:55:29,917 --> 01:55:32,317 is our contractual obligations 3449 01:55:34,225 --> 01:55:36,491 on pier? If we gave back the 3450 01:55:36,491 --> 01:55:37,920 lease to the baby like we did, 3451 01:55:37,920 --> 01:55:39,194 we don't have anything to do 3452 01:55:39,194 --> 01:55:42,194 with Peers are correct, MR. 3453 01:55:43,732 --> 01:55:46,680 Mayor c you are correct. What 3454 01:55:46,680 --> 01:55:47,200 we committed to because of the 3455 01:55:47,200 --> 01:55:50,602 timing of this was to support 3456 01:55:51,340 --> 01:55:53,740 this year's boat races. 3457 01:55:53,776 --> 01:55:54,576 >> We have a verbal commitment 3458 01:55:54,576 --> 01:55:55,176 to ensure that that ripped 3459 01:55:55,176 --> 01:55:57,576 through this transition that 3460 01:55:57,846 --> 01:55:59,914 the city still is in support 3461 01:55:59,914 --> 01:56:01,183 of this particular year's boat 3462 01:56:01,183 --> 01:56:03,583 race with the understanding 3463 01:56:04,190 --> 01:56:06,419 that moving forward, that 3464 01:56:06,922 --> 01:56:07,555 would be negotiations in a 3465 01:56:07,555 --> 01:56:08,900 relationship with the Navy and 3466 01:56:08,900 --> 01:56:09,925 whoever's putting on the 3467 01:56:09,925 --> 01:56:11,827 future boat race. But you are 3468 01:56:11,827 --> 01:56:12,662 correct that we don't have any 3469 01:56:12,662 --> 01:56:14,662 fiscal monetary obligation 3470 01:56:18,301 --> 01:56:18,901 forward. A k a. 3471 01:56:18,901 --> 01:56:19,402 >> Okay, this downs and then 3472 01:56:19,402 --> 01:56:21,370 we'll have commissioner 3473 01:56:21,370 --> 01:56:21,938 Castillo and then 3474 01:56:21,938 --> 01:56:22,872 Commissioner. 3475 01:56:22,872 --> 01:56:26,472 >> I'm And and I'm not an 3476 01:56:27,610 --> 01:56:29,979 insurance expert, but even 3477 01:56:29,979 --> 01:56:30,679 when you terminate a 3478 01:56:30,679 --> 01:56:32,749 commercial relationship, it is 3479 01:56:32,749 --> 01:56:34,551 not uncommon to cover care up 3480 01:56:34,551 --> 01:56:37,253 to provide coverage for in 3481 01:56:37,253 --> 01:56:37,920 addition, a period of time to 3482 01:56:37,920 --> 01:56:39,789 be sure you're not cutting off 3483 01:56:39,789 --> 01:56:41,423 claims that you don't know 3484 01:56:41,423 --> 01:56:41,991 about, you know, something 3485 01:56:41,991 --> 01:56:44,828 happened when you have the 3486 01:56:44,828 --> 01:56:46,462 lease with a tenant, the 3487 01:56:46,462 --> 01:56:47,630 tendencies over. But you want 3488 01:56:47,630 --> 01:56:49,966 to be sure they don't say oh, 3489 01:56:49,966 --> 01:56:51,901 guess what? I got black lung 3490 01:56:51,901 --> 01:56:53,636 disease during the time of the 3491 01:56:53,636 --> 01:56:56,636 tenancy. So even though the 3492 01:56:56,773 --> 01:56:59,773 relationship is over, yeah, it 3493 01:57:00,843 --> 01:57:02,545 appears that our insurers, the 3494 01:57:02,545 --> 01:57:04,545 agency is recommending 3495 01:57:05,315 --> 01:57:06,283 additional coverage. So again, 3496 01:57:06,283 --> 01:57:08,317 let's let them tell us. But I 3497 01:57:08,317 --> 01:57:10,317 think commissioner, you're 3498 01:57:10,587 --> 01:57:11,221 right. You don't have any 3499 01:57:11,221 --> 01:57:13,621 underlying coverage here. This 3500 01:57:15,759 --> 01:57:16,293 is just a gap. Additional 3501 01:57:16,293 --> 01:57:18,950 coverage. Something flow 3502 01:57:18,950 --> 01:57:18,662 excess of 3503 01:57:18,662 --> 01:57:21,662 >> over the pause. Is that 3504 01:57:26,803 --> 01:57:28,172 correct? Is it you? Oh, sorry, 3505 01:57:28,172 --> 01:57:28,739 but you have a general 3506 01:57:28,739 --> 01:57:31,139 liability policies this and 3507 01:57:31,342 --> 01:57:32,442 excess ball. See yes. 3508 01:57:32,442 --> 01:57:33,243 >> We have overall general 3509 01:57:33,243 --> 01:57:35,643 liability policy that through 3510 01:57:36,790 --> 01:57:38,916 pr public purse management and 3511 01:57:38,916 --> 01:57:39,283 that goes per our property 3512 01:57:39,283 --> 01:57:39,716 schedule. 3513 01:57:39,716 --> 01:57:42,116 >> Pierre be is not 3514 01:57:43,421 --> 01:57:44,588 technically one of them. 3515 01:57:44,588 --> 01:57:45,122 >> if you're buried as the out 3516 01:57:45,122 --> 01:57:46,230 of all is not one of our 3517 01:57:46,230 --> 01:57:48,230 problem that we 3518 01:57:48,893 --> 01:57:51,328 >> Now so we don't injure. So 3519 01:57:51,328 --> 01:57:53,363 this is just an excess policy. 3520 01:57:53,363 --> 01:57:56,363 Awful what their policies are. 3521 01:57:56,934 --> 01:57:57,468 >> Between the Navy agreement 3522 01:57:57,468 --> 01:57:59,868 with their requirement to 3523 01:58:00,471 --> 01:58:02,871 provide insurance with their 3524 01:58:03,141 --> 01:58:03,574 agreement and then boat races, 3525 01:58:03,574 --> 01:58:05,574 their special event 3526 01:58:06,377 --> 01:58:06,978 application as a separate 3527 01:58:06,978 --> 01:58:09,378 agreement with their separate 3528 01:58:10,348 --> 01:58:11,150 set of insurance is so you 3529 01:58:11,150 --> 01:58:12,517 have 2 areas there that are 3530 01:58:12,517 --> 01:58:14,552 their insurance to cover 3531 01:58:14,552 --> 01:58:15,820 general liability. High Tide 3532 01:58:15,820 --> 01:58:18,590 claims and then we're just 3533 01:58:18,590 --> 01:58:21,493 providing an excess policy. As 3534 01:58:21,493 --> 01:58:23,493 this a 3535 01:58:24,496 --> 01:58:25,464 >> Well, we close umbrella 3536 01:58:25,464 --> 01:58:26,630 policy. Yes, yes, they're been 3537 01:58:26,630 --> 01:58:28,300 called the umbrella policies. 3538 01:58:28,300 --> 01:58:29,701 Yes, they can be to as well. 3539 01:58:29,701 --> 01:58:32,101 >> But to withhold certainly 3540 01:58:34,272 --> 01:58:35,239 get that to do it different 3541 01:58:35,239 --> 01:58:37,639 We'll carry that umbrella. 3542 01:58:39,111 --> 01:58:39,811 Brian, you want to carry that 3543 01:58:39,811 --> 01:58:41,613 umbrella too. What carry 3544 01:58:41,613 --> 01:58:42,213 cooked, carry the boat races 3545 01:58:42,213 --> 01:58:45,984 and then what do we do after 3546 01:58:45,984 --> 01:58:47,452 that cut? 3547 01:58:47,452 --> 01:58:48,860 >> MISTER Mayor Commissioner 3548 01:58:48,860 --> 01:58:50,588 Ross, the I believe and again, 3549 01:58:50,588 --> 01:58:51,457 there's a lot rhetoric 3550 01:58:51,457 --> 01:58:53,425 happening. I believe the 3551 01:58:53,425 --> 01:58:54,260 direction to us and I feel 3552 01:58:54,260 --> 01:58:57,626 like there's a motion on the 3553 01:58:57,730 --> 01:58:59,865 floor is. Approved. The 3554 01:58:59,865 --> 01:59:00,466 current recommendation to have 3555 01:59:00,466 --> 01:59:01,133 that policy with the 3556 01:59:01,133 --> 01:59:04,133 understanding that our team is 3557 01:59:04,236 --> 01:59:05,371 going to further evaluate the 3558 01:59:05,371 --> 01:59:07,873 need to continue it moving 3559 01:59:07,873 --> 01:59:08,507 forward. I believe that that's 3560 01:59:08,507 --> 01:59:11,210 so feels like we're all saying 3561 01:59:11,210 --> 01:59:11,543 the same thing. 3562 01:59:11,543 --> 01:59:13,543 >> But yeah. 3563 01:59:15,113 --> 01:59:15,748 >> To answer your question, if 3564 01:59:15,748 --> 01:59:16,816 that's the recommendation that 3565 01:59:16,816 --> 01:59:17,683 we bring back saying moving 3566 01:59:17,683 --> 01:59:20,830 forward, whether it's next 3567 01:59:21,119 --> 01:59:22,210 year, we will not provide that 3568 01:59:22,210 --> 01:59:23,656 policy are secure that policy. 3569 01:59:23,656 --> 01:59:24,657 I believe that that answers 3570 01:59:24,657 --> 01:59:25,524 the question. And if I 3571 01:59:25,524 --> 01:59:27,693 haven't, please let us Let me 3572 01:59:27,693 --> 01:59:29,128 know. Okay. Commissioner 3573 01:59:29,128 --> 01:59:32,532 Kaseya. Yes, you know, I think 3574 01:59:32,532 --> 01:59:36,132 we. Putting a lot energy into 3575 01:59:41,808 --> 01:59:42,876 this year, but it's one event. 3576 01:59:42,876 --> 01:59:43,810 We have other properties and 3577 01:59:43,810 --> 01:59:47,880 that events that go on in the 3578 01:59:47,880 --> 01:59:49,716 city and there. 3579 01:59:49,716 --> 01:59:51,684 >> the rent her, although 3580 01:59:51,684 --> 01:59:54,840 Leaseholder hasta secure, will 3581 01:59:55,922 --> 01:59:57,957 insurance to cover it. In 3582 01:59:57,957 --> 02:00:00,357 particular. I'm speaking on 3583 02:00:00,593 --> 02:00:01,194 the community center in Bahama 3584 02:00:01,194 --> 02:00:01,761 Village. Every time somebody 3585 02:00:01,761 --> 02:00:02,462 use that they go in on the 3586 02:00:02,462 --> 02:00:06,620 Port Allen and buy a policy 3587 02:00:06,266 --> 02:00:09,866 for the day. 4 of the event. 3588 02:00:10,170 --> 02:00:10,737 Why should we the pay? And for 3589 02:00:10,737 --> 02:00:14,700 some that we only on a huge 3590 02:00:14,700 --> 02:00:17,700 one time. To this provider, 3591 02:00:18,879 --> 02:00:23,790 I'm I'm still I know we been 3592 02:00:24,785 --> 02:00:26,719 it, but it's just one event. 3593 02:00:26,719 --> 02:00:27,287 Right. But it could be a 3594 02:00:27,287 --> 02:00:28,856 catastrophic potential. So 3595 02:00:28,856 --> 02:00:29,456 this is boat races, right? So 3596 02:00:29,456 --> 02:00:32,226 any age of $12,000 could save 3597 02:00:32,226 --> 02:00:32,726 us billions. So 3598 02:00:32,726 --> 02:00:33,294 >> maybe it's worse I'm 3599 02:00:33,294 --> 02:00:35,694 assuming that's what we're 3600 02:00:37,310 --> 02:00:37,865 talking about here. One year 3601 02:00:37,865 --> 02:00:38,466 all I want to give 3602 02:00:38,466 --> 02:00:40,701 commissioner to see the time 3603 02:00:40,701 --> 02:00:42,602 to finish to with you. Well, 3604 02:00:42,602 --> 02:00:45,400 I'm I'm I'm just trying to 3605 02:00:45,400 --> 02:00:45,505 gets staff recommends this 3606 02:00:45,505 --> 02:00:48,505 policy is I guess some 3607 02:00:50,143 --> 02:00:50,711 accidents. MISTER Mayor. Yes, 3608 02:00:50,711 --> 02:00:51,444 commissioner. Next week we 3609 02:00:51,444 --> 02:00:53,844 recommend the poke a 3610 02:00:54,548 --> 02:00:54,782 Commissioner Commissioner 3611 02:00:54,782 --> 02:00:56,150 Carey. 3612 02:00:56,150 --> 02:00:56,717 >> Thank you of similar to 3613 02:00:56,717 --> 02:00:59,530 that. I was going to ask a 3614 02:00:59,530 --> 02:01:01,453 very similar question as 3615 02:01:05,493 --> 02:01:07,695 Commissioner Castillo. So when 3616 02:01:07,695 --> 02:01:08,263 we do have organizations have 3617 02:01:08,263 --> 02:01:11,263 events, they get a special 3618 02:01:11,499 --> 02:01:12,330 that insurance policy maybe 3619 02:01:12,330 --> 02:01:14,433 $1000 for up to 2 million 3620 02:01:16,438 --> 02:01:18,838 dollar coverage. So why 3621 02:01:20,341 --> 02:01:21,109 wouldn't we do the same in 3622 02:01:21,109 --> 02:01:23,509 this particular case instead 3623 02:01:24,379 --> 02:01:26,714 of the $12,500 coverage. Would 3624 02:01:26,714 --> 02:01:27,449 we be able to have a special 3625 02:01:27,449 --> 02:01:29,449 event insurance coverage 3626 02:01:31,753 --> 02:01:32,320 specific? To the boat races at 3627 02:01:32,320 --> 02:01:35,900 a lower cost with a higher 3628 02:01:35,900 --> 02:01:35,623 coverage. 3629 02:01:35,623 --> 02:01:37,623 >> Historically, the boat 3630 02:01:38,326 --> 02:01:38,893 races has been a city 3631 02:01:38,893 --> 02:01:39,460 amendment, which is why we 3632 02:01:39,460 --> 02:01:42,597 cover it. All of the other 3633 02:01:42,597 --> 02:01:44,466 events are not city events. 3634 02:01:44,466 --> 02:01:45,000 >> You know, I get that, but 3635 02:01:45,000 --> 02:01:45,767 am speaking to. So we're 3636 02:01:45,767 --> 02:01:47,767 paying $12,500 for this 3637 02:01:49,805 --> 02:01:52,205 coverage. Really to protect 3638 02:01:53,408 --> 02:01:54,810 yourself around the boat races 3639 02:01:54,810 --> 02:01:57,790 right. Special event coverage 3640 02:01:57,790 --> 02:01:59,748 for a day or week or 3 days is 3641 02:01:59,748 --> 02:02:02,170 a couple $1000. You're saying 3642 02:02:02,170 --> 02:02:04,170 the $12,500. 3643 02:02:06,855 --> 02:02:08,855 >> Policy covers. 3644 02:02:16,650 --> 02:02:17,320 >> He's got he's at the so. 3645 02:02:17,320 --> 02:02:18,000 $1000. Special event coverage 3646 02:02:18,000 --> 02:02:20,636 just using loose numbers here 3647 02:02:20,636 --> 02:02:22,438 typically covers around 3648 02:02:22,438 --> 02:02:23,105 2 million dollars in coverage. 3649 02:02:23,105 --> 02:02:25,273 Right? And you're saying this 3650 02:02:25,273 --> 02:02:27,273 $12,500 additional coverage 3651 02:02:28,411 --> 02:02:29,511 gives us a million dollars in 3652 02:02:29,511 --> 02:02:31,911 coverage for 4 million dollars 3653 02:02:32,715 --> 02:02:34,417 in coverage. Okay. So there is 3654 02:02:34,417 --> 02:02:37,417 no savings and getting any 3655 02:02:39,155 --> 02:02:40,957 special event. Coverage like 3656 02:02:40,957 --> 02:02:42,826 commissioner that the eu was 3657 02:02:42,826 --> 02:02:44,227 mentioning, there is no 3658 02:02:44,227 --> 02:02:46,195 savings and spending a few 3659 02:02:46,195 --> 02:02:47,630 1000 for the special event 3660 02:02:47,630 --> 02:02:49,463 coverage instead of the 3661 02:02:52,235 --> 02:02:52,869 $12,500. 3662 02:02:52,869 --> 02:02:55,305 >> Historically as part of our 3663 02:02:55,305 --> 02:02:55,905 lease, we had to ensure for 3664 02:02:55,905 --> 02:02:57,507 the entire year. So it's not 3665 02:02:57,507 --> 02:02:58,141 just for that one event. It's 3666 02:02:58,141 --> 02:03:01,741 if anything were to happen out 3667 02:03:02,212 --> 02:03:04,513 there. And MR. Mayor, I'm a 3668 02:03:04,513 --> 02:03:06,216 yes, just to make clear, we do 3669 02:03:06,216 --> 02:03:08,510 have a contract with weight 3670 02:03:08,510 --> 02:03:08,852 race world offshore. We do 3671 02:03:08,852 --> 02:03:09,586 require indemnification. 3672 02:03:09,586 --> 02:03:10,187 >> They are required to have 3673 02:03:10,187 --> 02:03:12,255 their insurance. I don't want 3674 02:03:12,255 --> 02:03:12,922 to say this is to supplement 3675 02:03:12,922 --> 02:03:13,522 for them not to have 3676 02:03:13,522 --> 02:03:15,124 insurance. They are required 3677 02:03:15,124 --> 02:03:16,860 to have insurance. This is and 3678 02:03:16,860 --> 02:03:19,260 access protection for the 3679 02:03:19,730 --> 02:03:20,797 city. In an event there isn't 3680 02:03:20,797 --> 02:03:21,364 some type of catastrophic 3681 02:03:21,364 --> 02:03:23,133 event that requires access 3682 02:03:23,133 --> 02:03:25,402 money into paid that the city 3683 02:03:25,402 --> 02:03:26,200 is has the funds to provide 3684 02:03:26,200 --> 02:03:26,602 that. 3685 02:03:26,602 --> 02:03:29,773 >> Okay. Do can we move on to 3686 02:03:29,773 --> 02:03:30,406 a vote? Is anybody MADAM 3687 02:03:30,406 --> 02:03:33,760 Clerk, can you please call the 3688 02:03:33,760 --> 02:03:35,476 roll? Commissioner Carey? Yes. 3689 02:03:37,581 --> 02:03:38,849 Commissioner Castillo. 3690 02:03:38,849 --> 02:03:40,283 Commissioner Haskell. Yes. 3691 02:03:40,283 --> 02:03:40,817 Mission early. Yes. 3692 02:03:40,817 --> 02:03:42,786 Commissioner mascot. Yes. 3693 02:03:42,786 --> 02:03:43,620 Commissioner Ross Sea. Yes. 3694 02:03:43,620 --> 02:03:45,523 Mayor Coffman. Can we take a 3695 02:03:45,523 --> 02:03:48,292 break now or does anybody want 3696 02:03:48,292 --> 02:03:48,893 to do the next item? First? 3697 02:03:48,893 --> 02:03:51,893 Let's take a 10 minute break. 3698 02:04:00,313 --> 02:04:01,848 Transportation grant agreement 3699 02:04:01,848 --> 02:04:02,483 between the Florida Department 3700 02:04:02,483 --> 02:04:03,830 of Transportation and the city 3701 02:04:03,830 --> 02:04:05,353 of Key West for state fiscal 3702 02:04:05,353 --> 02:04:05,953 year. 2027. 3703 02:04:05,953 --> 02:04:08,353 >> State block grant program 3704 02:04:09,256 --> 02:04:11,325 for the city roots in a 3705 02:04:11,325 --> 02:04:13,494 reimbursement amount of up to 3706 02:04:13,494 --> 02:04:15,494 $338,521 and operating 3707 02:04:15,496 --> 02:04:17,896 assistance. Just 50% of the 3708 02:04:19,499 --> 02:04:20,100 total project cost $677,042 3709 02:04:20,100 --> 02:04:20,868 authorizing the city manager 3710 02:04:20,868 --> 02:04:22,670 to execute any necessary 3711 02:04:22,670 --> 02:04:25,700 transfers and documents upon 3712 02:04:25,773 --> 02:04:25,973 consent of the city attorney. 3713 02:04:25,973 --> 02:04:27,973 Okay. 3714 02:04:30,440 --> 02:04:30,612 >> Commissioner has Thank you. 3715 02:04:30,612 --> 02:04:33,612 >> I realize that this item 3716 02:04:34,382 --> 02:04:37,982 and the one before it and 3717 02:04:38,486 --> 02:04:40,454 after it generally our routine 3718 02:04:40,454 --> 02:04:41,589 types of items to accept a 3719 02:04:41,589 --> 02:04:42,220 grant award from the state for 3720 02:04:42,220 --> 02:04:44,220 purposes of public 3721 02:04:44,392 --> 02:04:44,960 transportation and to pledge 3722 02:04:44,960 --> 02:04:48,363 our match. But I wanted to 3723 02:04:48,363 --> 02:04:49,630 take the opportunity once 3724 02:04:49,630 --> 02:04:51,463 again talk about public 3725 02:04:51,967 --> 02:04:53,435 transit by pulling this item 3726 02:04:53,435 --> 02:04:55,871 and this particular one item 3727 02:04:55,871 --> 02:04:57,338 number 30 has to do with the 3728 02:04:57,338 --> 02:04:59,708 city route. And, you know, 3729 02:04:59,708 --> 02:05:01,708 there's been conversation 3730 02:05:04,279 --> 02:05:06,679 about changing the existing 3731 02:05:06,849 --> 02:05:10,520 bus service. And I would like 3732 02:05:10,520 --> 02:05:11,619 to ask with Mr Managers 3733 02:05:11,619 --> 02:05:13,722 permission, staff to come 3734 02:05:13,722 --> 02:05:15,560 forward and give us a little 3735 02:05:15,560 --> 02:05:15,690 update on where we are now 3736 02:05:15,690 --> 02:05:18,900 with the public transportation 3737 02:05:19,228 --> 02:05:20,162 planning. MISTER Mayor. Yes, 3738 02:05:20,162 --> 02:05:22,162 commissioner Haskell. Yes, 3739 02:05:22,331 --> 02:05:23,132 ma'am. I believe for him. Is 3740 02:05:23,132 --> 02:05:24,833 here and we will give you that 3741 02:05:24,833 --> 02:05:26,168 update. I believe you asked us 3742 02:05:26,168 --> 02:05:26,468 to come back with another 3743 02:05:26,468 --> 02:05:28,468 option. So. 3744 02:05:30,673 --> 02:05:31,307 >> Rogelio, thank you. 3745 02:05:31,307 --> 02:05:33,707 >> Good morning, MISTER Mayor. 3746 02:05:34,910 --> 02:05:35,811 Good Commissioner Haskell. 3747 02:05:35,811 --> 02:05:38,800 Yeah. Let me provide you a 3748 02:05:38,800 --> 02:05:38,914 brief real of our current 3749 02:05:38,914 --> 02:05:40,750 drought and what the future 3750 02:05:40,750 --> 02:05:41,283 might look like for us transit 3751 02:05:41,283 --> 02:05:44,283 in the service we provide 3752 02:05:44,487 --> 02:05:45,620 within the city limits 3753 02:05:45,620 --> 02:05:46,656 currently, as you MAY know, we 3754 02:05:46,656 --> 02:05:49,325 had on them and service called 3755 02:05:49,325 --> 02:05:50,292 us rats that operates 7 days a 3756 02:05:50,292 --> 02:05:51,894 week along with our fixed 3757 02:05:51,894 --> 02:05:52,862 route service called the 3758 02:05:52,862 --> 02:05:55,262 workforce that operates. Also 3759 02:05:56,599 --> 02:05:59,599 7 days a week between the 3760 02:06:00,536 --> 02:06:02,505 hours of 06:06am, and 08:00pm 3761 02:06:02,505 --> 02:06:05,505 previously in JULY, we brought 3762 02:06:07,410 --> 02:06:09,212 up a budget that proposed 3763 02:06:09,212 --> 02:06:09,846 being the pros bring in a new 3764 02:06:09,846 --> 02:06:13,446 route, a new service on mind 3765 02:06:13,817 --> 02:06:14,717 while absorbing of the the 3766 02:06:14,717 --> 02:06:16,753 workforce and also the key 3767 02:06:16,753 --> 02:06:17,620 West right on the man service. 3768 02:06:17,620 --> 02:06:21,570 If that is approved by the 3769 02:06:21,570 --> 02:06:21,758 commission and SEPTEMBER, what 3770 02:06:21,758 --> 02:06:25,958 that MAY look like is a fixed 3771 02:06:27,264 --> 02:06:29,332 route service that for bites a 3772 02:06:29,332 --> 02:06:30,267 60 minute frequency throughout 3773 02:06:30,267 --> 02:06:30,833 the city of Key West moment, 3774 02:06:30,833 --> 02:06:33,233 including on Stock Island, 3775 02:06:33,837 --> 02:06:35,704 north and a stock island. And 3776 02:06:35,704 --> 02:06:37,940 of course, there's been some 3777 02:06:37,940 --> 02:06:38,875 discussions about potentially 3778 02:06:38,875 --> 02:06:39,609 reducing works are increasing 3779 02:06:39,609 --> 02:06:42,900 the frequency to 45 minutes, 3780 02:06:43,213 --> 02:06:43,813 possibly even 30 minutes. 3781 02:06:43,813 --> 02:06:46,813 Those are scenarios that will 3782 02:06:48,785 --> 02:06:51,185 bring forward here. Cent. 3783 02:06:52,122 --> 02:06:54,591 Thank you. And how about 3784 02:06:54,591 --> 02:06:55,192 >> service that we share with 3785 02:06:55,192 --> 02:06:58,192 the county in inside stopped 3786 02:06:58,662 --> 02:07:00,662 Island. 3787 02:07:00,964 --> 02:07:02,166 >> So right now we service the 3788 02:07:02,166 --> 02:07:02,800 heart of Stock Island with our 3789 02:07:02,800 --> 02:07:05,800 workforce fixed route and also 3790 02:07:06,771 --> 02:07:09,173 the on the man. However, the 3791 02:07:09,173 --> 02:07:09,973 proposal that's come in 4th in 3792 02:07:09,973 --> 02:07:12,373 SEPTEMBER currently does not. 3793 02:07:13,678 --> 02:07:14,311 The ihop are currently won't 3794 02:07:14,311 --> 02:07:15,646 service that heart of stock on 3795 02:07:15,646 --> 02:07:17,548 it. It will serve a stock on 3796 02:07:17,548 --> 02:07:21,148 it. Us one 3rd street only 3797 02:07:21,185 --> 02:07:22,353 meaning that anyone and that 3798 02:07:22,353 --> 02:07:22,887 lives at 55th there somewhere 3799 02:07:22,887 --> 02:07:25,887 around the first the park 3800 02:07:27,926 --> 02:07:30,270 would happen. 2, you know, 3801 02:07:30,270 --> 02:07:34,232 walk bike if up to us one 3rd 3802 02:07:34,232 --> 02:07:35,199 in order to use that service. 3803 02:07:35,199 --> 02:07:37,335 The county currently does not 3804 02:07:37,335 --> 02:07:39,337 provide any type of funding to 3805 02:07:39,337 --> 02:07:41,973 assist with the current city 3806 02:07:41,973 --> 02:07:43,730 service or the ihop or in the 3807 02:07:43,730 --> 02:07:46,730 future that this what the 3808 02:07:46,711 --> 02:07:48,790 commission approves. 3809 02:07:48,790 --> 02:07:51,490 >> What can we do to work with 3810 02:07:51,490 --> 02:07:52,683 the county too, ensure that, 3811 02:07:52,683 --> 02:07:53,984 you know, our residents on 3812 02:07:53,984 --> 02:07:55,653 Staten Island continue to have 3813 02:07:55,653 --> 02:07:56,588 public transportation to get 3814 02:07:56,588 --> 02:08:00,892 to work in Key West or in the 3815 02:08:00,892 --> 02:08:01,493 county. Brian, I think you had 3816 02:08:01,493 --> 02:08:04,296 a question. Not a question. I 3817 02:08:04,296 --> 02:08:07,566 don't mean that. But MR. Mayor 3818 02:08:07,566 --> 02:08:09,568 commissioner, how we've we've 3819 02:08:09,568 --> 02:08:10,636 still in the that this 3820 02:08:10,636 --> 02:08:11,436 information, but I believe 3821 02:08:11,436 --> 02:08:13,104 this is more for the public's 3822 02:08:13,104 --> 02:08:15,104 awareness. It's difficult 3823 02:08:16,740 --> 02:08:16,708 because it's about the county, 3824 02:08:16,708 --> 02:08:19,444 with care and compassion. I do 3825 02:08:19,444 --> 02:08:20,440 want to speak for the county 3826 02:08:20,440 --> 02:08:23,482 what we can and can't do and 3827 02:08:23,482 --> 02:08:24,483 have continued to do is 3828 02:08:24,483 --> 02:08:25,217 dialogue regarding what 3829 02:08:25,217 --> 02:08:26,510 additional opportunities we 3830 02:08:26,510 --> 02:08:28,153 could pick up with. If this 3831 02:08:28,153 --> 02:08:29,154 fixed route is approved and 3832 02:08:29,154 --> 02:08:31,554 then what compensation from 3833 02:08:33,993 --> 02:08:35,600 the county would be equivalent 3834 02:08:35,600 --> 02:08:38,600 for 2 additional stops in the 3835 02:08:38,263 --> 02:08:38,831 heart of Stock Island. In all 3836 02:08:38,831 --> 02:08:39,764 fairness to the county that 3837 02:08:39,764 --> 02:08:42,635 has not been approved at any 3838 02:08:42,635 --> 02:08:44,437 level. So right now it's 3839 02:08:44,437 --> 02:08:46,437 collaboration and 3840 02:08:46,672 --> 02:08:48,473 communication. So as we bring 3841 02:08:48,473 --> 02:08:49,675 forward the fixed route with 3842 02:08:49,675 --> 02:08:52,780 the options right now, it's 3843 02:08:52,780 --> 02:08:54,113 the 2 stops that are on us. 3844 02:08:54,113 --> 02:08:56,816 One, we have the ability we 3845 02:08:56,816 --> 02:08:57,450 believe that if we need to 3846 02:08:57,450 --> 02:08:59,184 incorporate 2 additional stops 3847 02:08:59,184 --> 02:09:01,320 in Stock Island that we would 3848 02:09:01,320 --> 02:09:04,623 and that would not and keep 3849 02:09:04,623 --> 02:09:06,526 mean on That would not require 3850 02:09:06,526 --> 02:09:07,793 any additional buses, drivers 3851 02:09:07,793 --> 02:09:10,793 and or modification from the 3852 02:09:11,397 --> 02:09:11,998 picture out at this time and 3853 02:09:11,998 --> 02:09:14,400 there will be a dollar amount 3854 02:09:14,400 --> 02:09:15,368 associated with that. But 3855 02:09:15,368 --> 02:09:16,569 again, that's for the county 3856 02:09:16,569 --> 02:09:17,203 to approve at their level and 3857 02:09:17,203 --> 02:09:19,172 then communicate back to us if 3858 02:09:19,172 --> 02:09:22,740 and when that would be at it. 3859 02:09:22,740 --> 02:09:22,709 Does that answer your 3860 02:09:22,709 --> 02:09:23,476 question? Commissioner? I it's 3861 02:09:23,476 --> 02:09:26,813 I think so. I'm not quite 3862 02:09:26,813 --> 02:09:29,813 sure. Could just clarify the 3863 02:09:30,382 --> 02:09:32,382 additional? Routes additional 3864 02:09:33,720 --> 02:09:34,621 pickup spots in Stock Island. 3865 02:09:34,621 --> 02:09:35,188 Do say that we the city would 3866 02:09:35,188 --> 02:09:37,591 have the ability to support 3867 02:09:37,591 --> 02:09:39,591 that. 3868 02:09:40,193 --> 02:09:40,826 >> MR. Commissioner has school 3869 02:09:40,826 --> 02:09:44,263 support in the manner in which 3870 02:09:44,263 --> 02:09:46,866 it would not require a 3871 02:09:46,866 --> 02:09:47,801 significant deviation from the 3872 02:09:47,801 --> 02:09:50,801 current plan. It number of 3873 02:09:50,938 --> 02:09:51,204 buses, number of individual 3874 02:09:51,204 --> 02:09:51,805 drivers. 3875 02:09:51,805 --> 02:09:52,639 >> And anything that would 3876 02:09:52,639 --> 02:09:55,390 interrupt frequency of the 3877 02:09:55,242 --> 02:09:58,120 routes per se. However, it 3878 02:09:58,120 --> 02:10:01,612 would not be. The nexus would 3879 02:10:01,815 --> 02:10:02,383 not be at a 0 cost. We would 3880 02:10:02,383 --> 02:10:03,170 not just absorb that at the 3881 02:10:03,170 --> 02:10:06,170 city level. And again, that's 3882 02:10:06,860 --> 02:10:07,210 your decision. I'm not. I'm 3883 02:10:07,210 --> 02:10:08,756 not asking you. I'm not saying 3884 02:10:08,756 --> 02:10:10,570 that we've made that decision. 3885 02:10:10,570 --> 02:10:12,457 Not staff. The recommendation 3886 02:10:12,625 --> 02:10:13,694 coming from staff is not to do 3887 02:10:13,694 --> 02:10:15,862 that unless there is some type 3888 02:10:15,862 --> 02:10:17,298 of financial contribution from 3889 02:10:17,298 --> 02:10:19,133 the county and then 3890 02:10:19,133 --> 02:10:20,667 collaborative location of both 3891 02:10:20,667 --> 02:10:21,268 spots. That does not deviate 3892 02:10:21,268 --> 02:10:24,268 greatly from our fixed route 3893 02:10:25,373 --> 02:10:27,141 plant. All right. That makes 3894 02:10:27,141 --> 02:10:28,810 sense to me. And yes, and you 3895 02:10:28,810 --> 02:10:29,777 for explaining you, you know, 3896 02:10:29,777 --> 02:10:31,120 for 3897 02:10:31,120 --> 02:10:32,613 >> the benefit of of other 3898 02:10:32,613 --> 02:10:34,748 people who are interested. 3899 02:10:34,748 --> 02:10:36,830 Yes, ma'am, in this with 3900 02:10:36,830 --> 02:10:36,851 caution because in that 3901 02:10:36,851 --> 02:10:38,185 there's some of is happening 3902 02:10:38,185 --> 02:10:38,820 at the county level and with 3903 02:10:38,820 --> 02:10:39,453 respect to the county, they 3904 02:10:39,453 --> 02:10:42,991 have every right to do that or 3905 02:10:42,991 --> 02:10:43,490 not to that. Sure. And I know 3906 02:10:43,490 --> 02:10:45,490 they're under financial 3907 02:10:47,695 --> 02:10:50,532 constraints as well as we are. 3908 02:10:50,532 --> 02:10:54,502 And so I make a motion to 3909 02:10:54,502 --> 02:10:55,937 approve item 31. I think 30 30 3910 02:10:55,937 --> 02:10:58,305 sorry item, 13. Okay. We have 3911 02:10:58,305 --> 02:11:00,705 a motion by Commissioner 3912 02:11:01,876 --> 02:11:04,790 Haskell motion a second by 3913 02:11:04,790 --> 02:11:06,479 Commissioner Carey. Any more 3914 02:11:08,583 --> 02:11:09,151 discussion, Rossi, real quick. 3915 02:11:09,151 --> 02:11:12,151 >> the location is all the 3916 02:11:12,553 --> 02:11:14,122 stops are on us. One. That's 3917 02:11:14,122 --> 02:11:14,989 pretty dangers. Police there 3918 02:11:14,989 --> 02:11:17,989 is their bus stops, sheltered 3919 02:11:20,462 --> 02:11:21,630 areas there where they go. 3920 02:11:21,630 --> 02:11:22,397 Commissioner Ross, see, there 3921 02:11:22,397 --> 02:11:23,232 are 2 locations. They're 3922 02:11:23,232 --> 02:11:23,732 currently those would be the 2 3923 02:11:23,732 --> 02:11:24,265 locations that would be 3924 02:11:24,265 --> 02:11:26,665 incorporated into the fix 3925 02:11:26,969 --> 02:11:27,569 wrote Yes, Sir. 3926 02:11:27,569 --> 02:11:30,569 >> One's own really. It's the 3927 02:11:31,400 --> 02:11:32,507 3rd. And then what? Yeah, let 3928 02:11:32,507 --> 02:11:33,641 me jump on it. So it's us one 3929 02:11:33,641 --> 02:11:36,641 in 38. On the northbound side, 3930 02:11:36,712 --> 02:11:37,545 there's a budget or their up 3931 02:11:37,545 --> 02:11:39,482 pull off bench. Their spy 3932 02:11:39,482 --> 02:11:40,716 cracked all sorts of a 3933 02:11:40,716 --> 02:11:44,316 manatee. So there's no need to 3934 02:11:44,586 --> 02:11:45,955 cross us. One in order to get 3935 02:11:45,955 --> 02:11:46,555 the bus no matter which 3936 02:11:46,555 --> 02:11:48,123 direction it's going, weather 3937 02:11:48,123 --> 02:11:51,123 is clockwise or counter clock 3938 02:11:52,728 --> 02:11:53,329 throughout city. 3939 02:11:53,329 --> 02:11:56,329 >> Ok, what about rec records 3940 02:11:57,650 --> 02:11:57,667 k out there and 3941 02:11:57,667 --> 02:12:00,667 >> I'm glad you brought that 3942 02:12:01,337 --> 02:12:02,471 up. So records case quick. 2 3943 02:12:02,471 --> 02:12:04,473 minute walk from that bus. 3944 02:12:04,473 --> 02:12:06,409 Stop records. Ku got the 3945 02:12:06,409 --> 02:12:07,444 Flagler station affordable 3946 02:12:07,444 --> 02:12:10,113 housing there. You also got 3947 02:12:10,113 --> 02:12:13,113 the housing right next to 3948 02:12:14,830 --> 02:12:15,840 she's and that, you know, the 3949 02:12:15,840 --> 02:12:15,685 trailer park, it's really it's 3950 02:12:15,685 --> 02:12:18,850 all within walking distance. 3951 02:12:18,387 --> 02:12:21,987 The only area that that you 3952 02:12:22,258 --> 02:12:23,425 would happy, you you would 3953 02:12:23,425 --> 02:12:24,361 have to commute and allocates, 3954 02:12:24,361 --> 02:12:25,528 you know, 5 tense minutes to 3955 02:12:25,528 --> 02:12:29,728 get to that bus stop would be 3956 02:12:30,533 --> 02:12:32,868 the burn Park area like the 3957 02:12:32,868 --> 02:12:34,604 avenues cross and the 6th 3958 02:12:34,604 --> 02:12:37,604 Avenue 78th on 12th Avenue. 3959 02:12:39,420 --> 02:12:39,810 But the majority of the riders 3960 02:12:39,810 --> 02:12:42,246 that utilize or service live 3961 02:12:42,246 --> 02:12:45,846 with within a quarter mile of 3962 02:12:45,915 --> 02:12:46,516 that U.S. One 3rd bus stop. 3963 02:12:46,516 --> 02:12:48,385 >> And then loops around that 3964 02:12:48,385 --> 02:12:48,619 stops at the hospital doesn't 3965 02:12:48,619 --> 02:12:50,619 matter. 3966 02:12:51,421 --> 02:12:51,622 >> It does on a swat. Yes, it 3967 02:12:51,622 --> 02:12:53,622 does. 3968 02:12:54,590 --> 02:12:55,192 >> One of there's a new 3969 02:12:55,192 --> 02:12:55,792 housing project there. Forget 3970 02:12:55,792 --> 02:12:57,327 the name of Garden is a card 3971 02:12:57,327 --> 02:13:00,327 and year sub search. Correct. 3972 02:13:02,432 --> 02:13:03,330 To thank you. 3973 02:13:03,330 --> 02:13:05,433 >> Anymore discussion. I just 3974 02:13:05,502 --> 02:13:06,603 I want to publicly thank our 3975 02:13:06,603 --> 02:13:07,371 transit director. You were 3976 02:13:07,371 --> 02:13:08,238 responsive. You listen to the 3977 02:13:08,238 --> 02:13:11,238 commission in JULY and you 3978 02:13:11,241 --> 02:13:11,708 brought back a quite a bit, 3979 02:13:11,708 --> 02:13:14,708 you know, to help our 3980 02:13:15,346 --> 02:13:17,315 residents of Stock Island and 3981 02:13:17,315 --> 02:13:18,181 also looking at the increased 3982 02:13:18,181 --> 02:13:18,716 increased frequency, which 3983 02:13:18,716 --> 02:13:19,283 we've been quite frankly 3984 02:13:19,283 --> 02:13:19,883 talking about for years. So 3985 02:13:19,883 --> 02:13:22,119 thank you for doing that hard 3986 02:13:22,119 --> 02:13:25,119 work. With that. MADAM Clerk, 3987 02:13:25,623 --> 02:13:26,857 can you please call the Roll 3988 02:13:26,857 --> 02:13:28,857 Commissioner Carey? Yes, 3989 02:13:28,959 --> 02:13:29,527 commissioner commissioner 3990 02:13:29,527 --> 02:13:30,928 Haskell. Yes, commissioner 3991 02:13:30,928 --> 02:13:31,529 Lee. Yes. Commissioner 3992 02:13:31,529 --> 02:13:33,263 massacre. Yes, MISTER Rossi. 3993 02:13:33,263 --> 02:13:35,366 Yes. Mayor Coffman. Yes. 3994 02:13:35,366 --> 02:13:37,634 >> Motion passes. Item number. 3995 02:13:37,634 --> 02:13:38,503 39 approving the 3rd Amendment 3996 02:13:38,503 --> 02:13:40,905 to lease agreement between the 3997 02:13:40,905 --> 02:13:42,607 city and Castle Kyle. Way so 3998 02:13:42,607 --> 02:13:44,776 doing business is La Sawn to 3999 02:13:44,776 --> 02:13:45,643 Pepe to extend the existing 4000 02:13:45,643 --> 02:13:47,245 lease term for the property 4001 02:13:47,245 --> 02:13:47,779 located at 4.10, Wall Street 4002 02:13:47,779 --> 02:13:50,779 at Mallory Square for an 4003 02:13:51,249 --> 02:13:52,817 additional 12 month period to 4004 02:13:52,817 --> 02:13:54,952 9/30/2027. To be amended as 4005 02:13:54,952 --> 02:13:56,210 needed based upon the 4006 02:13:56,210 --> 02:13:57,288 commission's determination 4007 02:13:57,288 --> 02:13:57,889 regarding the tenants request 4008 02:13:57,889 --> 02:13:58,657 for reduction in base rent 4009 02:13:58,657 --> 02:14:00,625 authorizing the mayor to 4010 02:14:00,625 --> 02:14:02,693 execute the 3rd Amendment to 4011 02:14:02,693 --> 02:14:03,428 agreement has approved by the 4012 02:14:03,428 --> 02:14:03,996 commission and any other 4013 02:14:03,996 --> 02:14:05,996 necessary related documents 4014 02:14:06,664 --> 02:14:07,599 upon advice and consent. The 4015 02:14:07,599 --> 02:14:10,135 city attorney and I do want to 4016 02:14:10,135 --> 02:14:13,135 confirm Jason, Gary Moreira is 4017 02:14:14,840 --> 02:14:18,710 on zoom. I had a question if 4018 02:14:18,710 --> 02:14:22,310 he I thought he was. Should 4019 02:14:24,183 --> 02:14:25,217 okay. 4020 02:14:25,217 --> 02:14:26,784 >> What is the commission's 4021 02:14:26,784 --> 02:14:27,352 commissions pleasures start 4022 02:14:27,352 --> 02:14:29,752 with staff presentation or 4023 02:14:31,723 --> 02:14:32,357 tenant? MR. Mayor, I'm I 4024 02:14:32,357 --> 02:14:35,957 apologize. I do stun want that 4025 02:14:37,629 --> 02:14:38,597 to. Gary is had a medical 4026 02:14:38,597 --> 02:14:41,567 concerns. So we apologize for 4027 02:14:41,567 --> 02:14:42,668 the interruption. It's 4028 02:14:42,668 --> 02:14:45,680 definitely not consistent any 4029 02:14:45,470 --> 02:14:48,470 in indication of support this 4030 02:14:48,473 --> 02:14:49,707 agenda But right now we do not 4031 02:14:49,707 --> 02:14:51,477 have him. I believe that we 4032 02:14:51,477 --> 02:14:52,945 could answer some cursory 4033 02:14:52,945 --> 02:14:53,879 questions that they're not 4034 02:14:53,879 --> 02:14:55,814 necessarily directed to Gary 4035 02:14:55,814 --> 02:14:57,817 specifically, but we'll do our 4036 02:14:57,817 --> 02:15:00,217 best but completely understand 4037 02:15:00,752 --> 02:15:01,387 if we would like to pause 4038 02:15:01,387 --> 02:15:02,540 lower, what are we simply have 4039 02:15:02,540 --> 02:15:02,988 the tenant here? What we have 4040 02:15:02,988 --> 02:15:06,588 in the tenant? Yes, yes, This 4041 02:15:06,893 --> 02:15:07,960 case I thank you. 4042 02:15:07,960 --> 02:15:09,270 >> Michelle, Kate's deal on 4043 02:15:09,270 --> 02:15:11,630 front street. I'm here on 4044 02:15:11,630 --> 02:15:11,697 behalf of cassock highway so 4045 02:15:11,697 --> 02:15:13,266 we all probably know better as 4046 02:15:13,266 --> 02:15:17,690 elms and up at a restaurant at 4047 02:15:17,690 --> 02:15:19,380 4.10, Wall Street. We've 4048 02:15:19,380 --> 02:15:21,941 rented that building for over. 4049 02:15:21,941 --> 02:15:23,308 25 years. We're hearing 4050 02:15:23,308 --> 02:15:23,977 requesting one-year extension 4051 02:15:23,977 --> 02:15:24,543 of the lease term as well as a 4052 02:15:24,543 --> 02:15:27,543 reduction in the base rent 4053 02:15:28,810 --> 02:15:29,816 during this period. These term 4054 02:15:29,816 --> 02:15:32,216 expires SEPTEMBER 30th of 4055 02:15:34,453 --> 02:15:35,121 2026. This last year the city 4056 02:15:35,121 --> 02:15:37,121 performed a structural 4057 02:15:37,290 --> 02:15:38,125 assessment study on the 4058 02:15:38,125 --> 02:15:40,125 building which showed 4059 02:15:41,270 --> 02:15:43,270 significant structural issues 4060 02:15:43,129 --> 02:15:44,297 and is pursuing a grant to 4061 02:15:44,297 --> 02:15:44,998 assist in covering the cost to 4062 02:15:44,998 --> 02:15:45,565 determine the scope of work, 4063 02:15:45,565 --> 02:15:47,965 which will hopefully come 4064 02:15:48,234 --> 02:15:51,234 through this year. The request 4065 02:15:51,939 --> 02:15:53,607 for the reduction of rent. We 4066 02:15:53,607 --> 02:15:54,207 supply due to report showing 4067 02:15:54,207 --> 02:15:57,207 the declining gross sales for 4068 02:16:00,180 --> 02:16:02,180 the period 2021. Through 2026. 4069 02:16:02,716 --> 02:16:03,317 This decline as stated in MR. 4070 02:16:03,317 --> 02:16:05,219 Mario Staff report comes as a 4071 02:16:05,219 --> 02:16:06,653 result in diminished cruise 4072 02:16:06,653 --> 02:16:07,221 ship activity and restricted 4073 02:16:07,221 --> 02:16:09,621 waterfront access from the 4074 02:16:10,924 --> 02:16:13,270 Mallory Pierre. The current 4075 02:16:13,270 --> 02:16:13,493 occupancy costs. Our 9.2% of 4076 02:16:13,493 --> 02:16:15,362 gross revenue for the 4077 02:16:15,362 --> 02:16:18,362 restaurant right now, which is 4078 02:16:18,699 --> 02:16:19,133 very high in that industry. We 4079 02:16:19,133 --> 02:16:21,533 would just want to 4080 02:16:23,690 --> 02:16:23,637 re-establish baseline. So that 4081 02:16:23,637 --> 02:16:24,138 improperly aligns with the 4082 02:16:24,138 --> 02:16:26,538 current level of gross 4083 02:16:28,542 --> 02:16:29,777 revenue. The 6% rep right 4084 02:16:29,777 --> 02:16:31,379 sector of gross revenue being 4085 02:16:31,379 --> 02:16:31,912 proposed is in line with 4086 02:16:31,912 --> 02:16:33,281 several other restaurant 4087 02:16:33,281 --> 02:16:36,881 leases in the bite that have 4088 02:16:37,852 --> 02:16:39,787 recently been approved. We 4089 02:16:39,787 --> 02:16:41,756 just want to be in line with 4090 02:16:41,756 --> 02:16:42,690 those leases. And if gross 4091 02:16:42,690 --> 02:16:43,491 revenue exceeds that baseline 4092 02:16:43,491 --> 02:16:45,891 grow sales, an additional 6% 4093 02:16:46,828 --> 02:16:47,328 will be paid on on that access 4094 02:16:47,328 --> 02:16:50,698 to city. So we hope you 4095 02:16:50,698 --> 02:16:52,166 support this. Thank you. As 4096 02:16:52,166 --> 02:16:52,733 Kate's bringing it back to the 4097 02:16:52,733 --> 02:16:54,102 commission or Misra did you 4098 02:16:54,102 --> 02:16:56,904 want to say some things? 4099 02:16:56,904 --> 02:16:58,106 >> No, sir, you need eye 4100 02:16:58,106 --> 02:16:58,740 mayor. You mean that? I 4101 02:16:58,740 --> 02:17:00,775 thought maybe you're looking 4102 02:17:00,775 --> 02:17:01,342 over, but it feel we've 4103 02:17:01,342 --> 02:17:02,244 provided enough information 4104 02:17:02,244 --> 02:17:04,212 from a staff perspective to 4105 02:17:04,212 --> 02:17:05,146 support the recommendation. 4106 02:17:05,146 --> 02:17:08,746 Okay. Bringing it back to the 4107 02:17:08,816 --> 02:17:11,319 any public comment. Bring it 4108 02:17:11,319 --> 02:17:11,919 back to the Any discussion 4109 02:17:11,919 --> 02:17:15,519 questions and we want to make 4110 02:17:15,590 --> 02:17:16,391 a motion approve. Okay, 4111 02:17:16,391 --> 02:17:18,393 approving what approving the 4112 02:17:18,393 --> 02:17:20,393 extension. 6%. What the 4113 02:17:23,365 --> 02:17:26,365 extension. And to clarify that 4114 02:17:30,138 --> 02:17:32,730 would be what exactly. That 4115 02:17:32,730 --> 02:17:32,574 the recommendation is for a 12 4116 02:17:32,574 --> 02:17:34,610 month term extension to 4117 02:17:34,610 --> 02:17:37,610 finalize the scope of repairs. 4118 02:17:39,548 --> 02:17:42,548 >> And a new long-term lease. 4119 02:17:42,718 --> 02:17:45,753 The reduction of base rent. As 4120 02:17:45,753 --> 02:17:47,656 recommended in the time I 4121 02:17:47,656 --> 02:17:48,591 understood just to clarify, my 4122 02:17:48,591 --> 02:17:49,324 understanding was the 4123 02:17:49,324 --> 02:17:49,892 reduction of rent was not 4124 02:17:49,892 --> 02:17:52,292 recommended. That was being 4125 02:17:54,363 --> 02:17:56,631 left up to the commission. 4126 02:17:56,631 --> 02:17:59,350 >> That was how about they 4127 02:17:59,350 --> 02:17:59,902 said 90% is what it is now 4128 02:17:59,902 --> 02:18:02,302 because of the problems 4129 02:18:02,571 --> 02:18:03,973 they've That's more typically. 4130 02:18:03,973 --> 02:18:06,542 >> As smaller than that. And 4131 02:18:06,542 --> 02:18:07,109 then it falls in line with all 4132 02:18:07,109 --> 02:18:07,743 the other Maher, ok? So we 4133 02:18:07,743 --> 02:18:08,544 have a motion by commissioner 4134 02:18:08,544 --> 02:18:10,944 Castillo. That was their 4135 02:18:11,413 --> 02:18:11,981 second. I'll second 4136 02:18:11,981 --> 02:18:12,748 Commissioner Carey seconds, 4137 02:18:12,748 --> 02:18:13,249 bringing back to the 4138 02:18:13,249 --> 02:18:15,249 commission discussion. 4139 02:18:18,288 --> 02:18:18,754 Questions. Commissioner 4140 02:18:18,754 --> 02:18:20,523 Haskell. Yeah, under 4141 02:18:20,523 --> 02:18:21,123 discussion, I support the 4142 02:18:21,123 --> 02:18:24,723 extension of of the lease for 4143 02:18:24,861 --> 02:18:26,861 another year. 4144 02:18:27,697 --> 02:18:28,264 >> And I do not at this time 4145 02:18:28,264 --> 02:18:30,664 support the reduction rent 4146 02:18:32,100 --> 02:18:33,570 from the current contract. 4147 02:18:33,570 --> 02:18:35,970 >> We're looking everywhere we 4148 02:18:37,473 --> 02:18:39,275 can, you know, for for funds 4149 02:18:39,275 --> 02:18:41,178 to support many valuable 4150 02:18:41,178 --> 02:18:44,178 services and activities in the 4151 02:18:45,470 --> 02:18:48,647 city. And I just think the 4152 02:18:49,953 --> 02:18:50,553 timing is not to request rent 4153 02:18:50,553 --> 02:18:52,953 reduction. I understand that 4154 02:18:54,323 --> 02:18:56,323 in the future 4155 02:18:57,861 --> 02:18:59,863 >> hta is looking for aligning 4156 02:18:59,863 --> 02:19:03,463 all of the leases and having, 4157 02:19:04,534 --> 02:19:05,135 you know, similar similar 4158 02:19:05,135 --> 02:19:07,135 language similar percentages 4159 02:19:08,605 --> 02:19:12,205 in all the leases and getting 4160 02:19:12,242 --> 02:19:13,143 some credit for making some 4161 02:19:13,143 --> 02:19:14,440 capital improvements. You 4162 02:19:14,440 --> 02:19:14,578 know, that all sounds like a 4163 02:19:14,578 --> 02:19:16,112 good something that we're 4164 02:19:16,112 --> 02:19:17,548 going to discuss in the 4165 02:19:17,548 --> 02:19:21,117 future. But at this time for 4166 02:19:21,117 --> 02:19:21,684 this next one year, I support 4167 02:19:21,684 --> 02:19:24,684 the extension, but I don't 4168 02:19:24,889 --> 02:19:27,289 support the rent reduction. 4169 02:19:28,926 --> 02:19:29,527 >> Thank you. Commissioner 4170 02:19:29,527 --> 02:19:30,127 school Ask I have a question 4171 02:19:30,127 --> 02:19:33,727 for for staff because at this 4172 02:19:33,831 --> 02:19:34,732 time, of course I support 4173 02:19:34,732 --> 02:19:35,333 lease extension and I I don't 4174 02:19:35,333 --> 02:19:38,333 buy the cruise ship arguments 4175 02:19:49,113 --> 02:19:51,820 and is there anything in 4176 02:19:51,820 --> 02:19:52,450 Mallory Square that the city 4177 02:19:52,450 --> 02:19:55,719 has done to cause a reduction 4178 02:19:55,719 --> 02:19:56,721 in foot traffic in and around 4179 02:19:56,721 --> 02:19:58,990 Mallory Square in that area. 4180 02:19:58,990 --> 02:20:00,990 Numbers, MR. Mayor 4181 02:20:02,930 --> 02:20:02,894 Commissioner mascot, I 4182 02:20:02,894 --> 02:20:03,461 wouldn't. 4183 02:20:03,461 --> 02:20:04,194 >> Define the says the city 4184 02:20:04,194 --> 02:20:07,365 has done, but I would tell you 4185 02:20:07,365 --> 02:20:09,133 that the interruption or the 4186 02:20:09,133 --> 02:20:09,633 pier, you know, he's a big 4187 02:20:09,633 --> 02:20:12,330 impact. We've had this 4188 02:20:13,204 --> 02:20:14,406 conversation with cps and some 4189 02:20:14,406 --> 02:20:15,407 related entities down there. I 4190 02:20:15,407 --> 02:20:18,510 would tell you that until we 4191 02:20:18,510 --> 02:20:20,478 have the ability to repair the 4192 02:20:20,478 --> 02:20:22,347 in my opinion and then 4193 02:20:22,347 --> 02:20:23,482 possibly bacon, some of the 4194 02:20:23,482 --> 02:20:25,482 improvements that we 4195 02:20:25,851 --> 02:20:27,886 dovetailed with the tdc grant 4196 02:20:27,886 --> 02:20:30,886 that Sardis. That's our. A 4197 02:20:30,989 --> 02:20:34,589 path forward. But I would tell 4198 02:20:34,726 --> 02:20:35,260 you that it's been impacted by 4199 02:20:35,260 --> 02:20:37,995 blocking off of the pier. 4200 02:20:37,995 --> 02:20:41,595 That's what I would tell you. 4201 02:20:43,100 --> 02:20:43,502 And we put during our 10 of 4202 02:20:43,502 --> 02:20:44,903 us. Was going to ask in 4203 02:20:44,903 --> 02:20:46,905 public, I see that in But, you 4204 02:20:46,905 --> 02:20:48,407 know, I I you know, any 4205 02:20:48,407 --> 02:20:50,275 landlord, you know, if the 4206 02:20:50,275 --> 02:20:51,677 landlord does something to 4207 02:20:51,677 --> 02:20:52,578 affect the, 4208 02:20:52,578 --> 02:20:55,413 >> you know, quality of of the 4209 02:20:55,413 --> 02:20:56,715 the product of the plays, 4210 02:20:56,715 --> 02:20:58,451 then, you know, I you can 4211 02:20:58,451 --> 02:20:59,718 understand a reduction base 4212 02:20:59,718 --> 02:21:03,522 rent and I just wanted to know 4213 02:21:03,522 --> 02:21:05,624 if there was anything that was 4214 02:21:05,624 --> 02:21:06,192 within the city's control. 4215 02:21:06,192 --> 02:21:06,758 Now, the pier and that, you 4216 02:21:06,758 --> 02:21:08,327 know, that the repairs that 4217 02:21:08,327 --> 02:21:08,928 need to be made, you know, 4218 02:21:08,928 --> 02:21:11,928 those are natural things that 4219 02:21:13,266 --> 02:21:13,833 that that occur. Should we 4220 02:21:13,833 --> 02:21:15,680 have been market thoughtful 4221 02:21:15,680 --> 02:21:17,303 about maintenance over the 4222 02:21:17,303 --> 02:21:18,710 years, perhaps. But that was 4223 02:21:18,710 --> 02:21:19,238 just a question I wanted to 4224 02:21:19,238 --> 02:21:19,838 answer for the public and for 4225 02:21:19,838 --> 02:21:23,750 the rest of the commission to 4226 02:21:23,750 --> 02:21:26,750 to know. Commissioner can you 4227 02:21:28,480 --> 02:21:28,848 if I MAY. If you look at the 4228 02:21:28,848 --> 02:21:30,848 portfolio here. 4229 02:21:31,484 --> 02:21:32,520 >> And again, I. 4230 02:21:32,520 --> 02:21:35,520 >> I support this because a 4231 02:21:35,880 --> 02:21:38,688 lot of people that work. For 4232 02:21:39,893 --> 02:21:42,162 jaisol. We see a lot of 4233 02:21:42,162 --> 02:21:44,562 businesses going under right 4234 02:21:46,566 --> 02:21:47,533 now. Lot of traditional. 4235 02:21:47,533 --> 02:21:50,871 Pieces of key West leaving the 4236 02:21:50,871 --> 02:21:53,271 island, Pepe. Vessel probably 4237 02:21:56,676 --> 02:21:59,676 one of the models. Influential 4238 02:22:00,213 --> 02:22:01,810 restaurants downtown that when 4239 02:22:01,810 --> 02:22:04,810 you see decline in the 4240 02:22:06,153 --> 02:22:07,421 revenues for that 4241 02:22:07,421 --> 02:22:07,988 establishment and inland would 4242 02:22:07,988 --> 02:22:10,791 hold the rents that we have 4243 02:22:10,791 --> 02:22:12,558 from Key West bike. Caroline 4244 02:22:12,558 --> 02:22:15,558 Street corridor. They pay the 4245 02:22:17,931 --> 02:22:21,101 most money. And again, I'm not 4246 02:22:21,101 --> 02:22:22,469 trying to avoid the pay port, 4247 02:22:22,469 --> 02:22:23,537 but the decline in business 4248 02:22:23,537 --> 02:22:24,538 that they had since we don't 4249 02:22:24,538 --> 02:22:28,138 have cruise ships on a regular 4250 02:22:28,809 --> 02:22:31,209 there, though, the grounds 4251 02:22:32,213 --> 02:22:33,613 along you stand a chance into 4252 02:22:33,613 --> 02:22:36,613 middle section near and full 4253 02:22:39,887 --> 02:22:41,887 drew. A sinkhole 4254 02:22:43,900 --> 02:22:46,900 >> it's not safe down there. 4255 02:22:47,128 --> 02:22:48,262 Go down there frequently. And 4256 02:22:48,262 --> 02:22:49,764 when I write to their its 4257 02:22:49,764 --> 02:22:50,364 always, somebody out there to 4258 02:22:50,364 --> 02:22:53,964 tell you can't walk you can't 4259 02:22:54,635 --> 02:22:55,235 do something here. And believe 4260 02:22:55,235 --> 02:22:57,171 me, the entertainment that we 4261 02:22:57,171 --> 02:23:01,371 get from the air in the full 4262 02:23:02,209 --> 02:23:03,678 year. In line with all the 4263 02:23:03,678 --> 02:23:06,678 rains that we charge, they 4264 02:23:07,140 --> 02:23:10,140 help animals. So, you know, 4265 02:23:11,252 --> 02:23:11,753 you kind of like penalize and 4266 02:23:11,753 --> 02:23:14,153 a business that that's 4267 02:23:14,456 --> 02:23:16,424 employee in a lot of people 4268 02:23:16,424 --> 02:23:17,626 here. So, you know, I'm I'm 4269 02:23:17,626 --> 02:23:18,259 just here to speak in behalf 4270 02:23:18,259 --> 02:23:19,628 of this and because I know the 4271 02:23:19,628 --> 02:23:22,628 employees that work there rely 4272 02:23:22,731 --> 02:23:26,268 on a job there. And I support 4273 02:23:26,268 --> 02:23:28,268 the project. 4274 02:23:30,404 --> 02:23:31,473 >> Ok, thank you, Commissioner 4275 02:23:31,473 --> 02:23:32,730 any other comments. This is a 4276 02:23:32,730 --> 02:23:35,730 percentage Lee's is that what 4277 02:23:38,613 --> 02:23:39,681 is staff MR. Commissioner 4278 02:23:39,681 --> 02:23:40,816 Michelle could probably answer 4279 02:23:40,816 --> 02:23:43,216 better. But my understanding 4280 02:23:43,619 --> 02:23:44,553 is that it's at least with 4281 02:23:44,553 --> 02:23:45,119 percentage of the sales 4282 02:23:45,119 --> 02:23:47,356 revenue. And I believe that 4283 02:23:47,356 --> 02:23:48,257 they ask is 4284 02:23:48,257 --> 02:23:50,657 >> to reduce that sales 4285 02:23:51,126 --> 02:23:52,193 revenue percentage to 6%. And 4286 02:23:52,193 --> 02:23:54,630 then if there's excess of the 4287 02:23:54,630 --> 02:23:55,163 6, it's not like they just 4288 02:23:55,163 --> 02:23:58,163 take that. They said they 4289 02:23:58,600 --> 02:23:59,769 would pay an additional ht 4290 02:23:59,769 --> 02:24:00,369 would pay or illness on to 4291 02:24:00,369 --> 02:24:02,705 will pay an additional 6% on 4292 02:24:02,705 --> 02:24:05,608 any excess. So, you know, 4293 02:24:05,608 --> 02:24:06,308 field and it has a very 4294 02:24:06,308 --> 02:24:06,876 reasonable request. And then 4295 02:24:06,876 --> 02:24:07,442 that's why we brought it to 4296 02:24:07,442 --> 02:24:10,442 you as a recommendation to 4297 02:24:13,215 --> 02:24:13,481 move forward. You. Any other 4298 02:24:13,481 --> 02:24:14,160 comments? 4299 02:24:14,160 --> 02:24:17,160 >> Ok, before we call the 4300 02:24:17,953 --> 02:24:20,560 role, I would just say that. 4301 02:24:20,560 --> 02:24:20,990 >> The concern I have is will 4302 02:24:20,990 --> 02:24:23,259 this open the door to other 4303 02:24:23,259 --> 02:24:25,659 tenants asking for reductions? 4304 02:24:28,310 --> 02:24:29,398 I have a concern about from 4305 02:24:29,398 --> 02:24:31,167 what I see down in the area of 4306 02:24:31,167 --> 02:24:31,768 the Conch Republic seafood 4307 02:24:31,768 --> 02:24:34,168 company, the boathouse, they 4308 02:24:35,371 --> 02:24:36,573 seem to be very busy and 4309 02:24:36,573 --> 02:24:38,740 having good business. So I'm 4310 02:24:38,740 --> 02:24:40,209 not sure you know what's going 4311 02:24:40,209 --> 02:24:42,145 on this particular location 4312 02:24:42,145 --> 02:24:42,912 and the other concern I would 4313 02:24:42,912 --> 02:24:45,515 have. And, you we don't have 4314 02:24:45,515 --> 02:24:47,550 our property manager here, but 4315 02:24:47,550 --> 02:24:48,184 I would I would have asked him 4316 02:24:48,184 --> 02:24:51,588 if we would be able to command 4317 02:24:51,588 --> 02:24:52,550 a higher rent if we went 4318 02:24:52,550 --> 02:24:54,550 through a competitive 4319 02:24:54,791 --> 02:24:56,590 solicitation process. So those 4320 02:24:56,590 --> 02:24:57,527 are my concerns and that's why 4321 02:24:57,527 --> 02:24:58,940 I'll be voting in the 4322 02:24:58,940 --> 02:24:58,662 negative. I do support the 4323 02:24:58,662 --> 02:25:01,620 one-year extension, but not 4324 02:25:01,364 --> 02:25:01,964 the rent reduction. So can we 4325 02:25:01,964 --> 02:25:04,964 call the roll Houston mayor, 4326 02:25:06,236 --> 02:25:08,380 if I MAY, that's the this. 4327 02:25:08,380 --> 02:25:11,675 This is one of the leases that 4328 02:25:11,675 --> 02:25:12,241 that came with sales. Wrapped 4329 02:25:12,241 --> 02:25:15,241 into where the police's was 4330 02:25:20,450 --> 02:25:21,352 not. Rap, where sales was 4331 02:25:21,352 --> 02:25:22,619 issue. It's it's an old. 25 4332 02:25:22,619 --> 02:25:24,619 year-old these. 4333 02:25:27,691 --> 02:25:28,259 >> However, 4334 02:25:28,259 --> 02:25:28,859 >> I know the dollar amount 4335 02:25:28,859 --> 02:25:30,930 counts for everybody. But if 4336 02:25:30,930 --> 02:25:33,930 you're not making money, how 4337 02:25:34,131 --> 02:25:35,566 can you support a business? I 4338 02:25:35,566 --> 02:25:39,166 have time to read through all 4339 02:25:40,103 --> 02:25:42,239 this stuff. So that's why I 4340 02:25:42,239 --> 02:25:45,142 recommended that we on it this 4341 02:25:45,142 --> 02:25:48,142 year. So that's correct. Ms 4342 02:25:49,747 --> 02:25:51,249 Cook, thank you. Anything 4343 02:25:51,249 --> 02:25:53,649 else? Know, Okay. Commissioner 4344 02:25:54,852 --> 02:25:56,988 thank you, MR. Mayor. 4345 02:25:56,988 --> 02:25:58,355 >> want to touch on. We just 4346 02:25:58,355 --> 02:25:59,923 voted on the Conch Republic 4347 02:25:59,923 --> 02:26:00,524 and boat House leases of the 4348 02:26:00,524 --> 02:26:02,993 boat house when those are at 4349 02:26:02,993 --> 02:26:03,861 6% as well. Right? MISTER 4350 02:26:03,861 --> 02:26:04,462 Mayor Commissioner Carey. 4351 02:26:04,462 --> 02:26:05,396 That's my understanding. Yes, 4352 02:26:05,396 --> 02:26:06,798 ma'am. So this would be just 4353 02:26:06,798 --> 02:26:09,798 aligning in Those. Okay. Thank 4354 02:26:12,803 --> 02:26:14,105 you. 4355 02:26:14,105 --> 02:26:16,975 >> And just their debt buy. 4356 02:26:16,975 --> 02:26:17,575 This is just for a one-year 4357 02:26:17,575 --> 02:26:19,975 extension reduction and based 4358 02:26:21,780 --> 02:26:24,583 grant to the 6%. In some ways, 4359 02:26:24,583 --> 02:26:25,717 what revisit this a year from 4360 02:26:25,717 --> 02:26:27,510 now for hopefully maybe a 10 4361 02:26:27,510 --> 02:26:29,451 year, a longer relationship. 4362 02:26:31,423 --> 02:26:32,240 But for right now because of 4363 02:26:32,240 --> 02:26:34,424 the circumstances. It's just 4364 02:26:34,559 --> 02:26:35,526 one year for the reduction. 4365 02:26:35,526 --> 02:26:36,994 >> MR. Maher Commissioner 4366 02:26:36,994 --> 02:26:39,994 Mascot. I believe that is 4367 02:26:40,732 --> 02:26:41,867 correct. This is a reset of 4368 02:26:41,867 --> 02:26:42,934 the baseline. Particularly 4369 02:26:42,934 --> 02:26:43,968 given our team candidly an 4370 02:26:43,968 --> 02:26:45,938 opportunity to reassess what 4371 02:26:45,938 --> 02:26:46,738 is needed to help support the 4372 02:26:46,738 --> 02:26:49,138 structure. We're also doing 4373 02:26:49,841 --> 02:26:50,876 that with the water from 4374 02:26:50,876 --> 02:26:52,945 Playhouse owns yes. So I just 4375 02:26:52,945 --> 02:26:54,913 want to reiterate like U.S. By 4376 02:26:54,913 --> 02:26:56,915 is a different animal than 4377 02:26:56,915 --> 02:26:58,183 Mallory Square, which to me, 4378 02:26:58,183 --> 02:27:00,619 in my opinion, needs a lot 4379 02:27:00,619 --> 02:27:01,753 more attention from the city. 4380 02:27:01,753 --> 02:27:03,753 So. 4381 02:27:04,289 --> 02:27:07,289 >> I understand. Did you know 4382 02:27:08,326 --> 02:27:09,595 Kyle Voices coming from? So if 4383 02:27:09,595 --> 02:27:11,330 there's any more discussion, 4384 02:27:11,330 --> 02:27:13,164 I'd love to hear it. But you 4385 02:27:13,164 --> 02:27:15,167 know, I'm I'm because it's 4386 02:27:15,167 --> 02:27:15,801 only one year I'm inclined to 4387 02:27:15,801 --> 02:27:16,401 to be in support of the 4388 02:27:16,401 --> 02:27:18,801 basement reduction. But just 4389 02:27:19,872 --> 02:27:21,440 for this one year. Okay. MADAM 4390 02:27:21,440 --> 02:27:24,310 Clerk, can you please call the 4391 02:27:24,310 --> 02:27:24,877 Commissioner Carey get 4392 02:27:24,877 --> 02:27:26,746 Commissioner Castillo. Yes, 4393 02:27:26,746 --> 02:27:28,746 Commissioner Haskell know 4394 02:27:28,914 --> 02:27:30,550 commissioner Lee. Commissioner 4395 02:27:30,550 --> 02:27:32,510 mascot. Yes. Commissioner Ross 4396 02:27:32,510 --> 02:27:34,451 Mayor cough know motion 4397 02:27:39,993 --> 02:27:41,194 passes. Item number 40, 4398 02:27:41,194 --> 02:27:42,962 authorizing the purchase and 4399 02:27:42,962 --> 02:27:43,762 implementation of the workday. 4400 02:27:43,762 --> 02:27:45,762 Enterprise resource planning 4401 02:27:46,399 --> 02:27:47,533 system, including software 4402 02:27:47,533 --> 02:27:48,601 subscriptions, training. 4403 02:27:48,601 --> 02:27:49,502 >> And related implementation 4404 02:27:49,502 --> 02:27:51,571 services under a 10 year 4405 02:27:51,571 --> 02:27:53,971 agreement with Ian Break 4406 02:27:54,406 --> 02:27:57,406 Associates, llc in the amount 4407 02:27:57,810 --> 02:27:59,679 of 4 million, 7, $674,962 and 4408 02:27:59,679 --> 02:28:02,790 $0.62 pursuant to on partners 4409 02:28:02,182 --> 02:28:04,182 contract number 1, 5, 9, 1, to 4410 02:28:04,351 --> 02:28:05,352 4 and section 2, Dash, 7, 9, 4411 02:28:05,352 --> 02:28:07,752 7, 3, code of ordinances of 4412 02:28:07,854 --> 02:28:09,155 the City of Key West Florida 4413 02:28:09,155 --> 02:28:09,756 authorizing the city manager 4414 02:28:09,756 --> 02:28:12,756 to negotiate and execute the 4415 02:28:13,227 --> 02:28:14,193 prime contract agreement and 4416 02:28:14,193 --> 02:28:14,761 any necessary related 4417 02:28:14,761 --> 02:28:15,295 documents, budget transfers 4418 02:28:15,295 --> 02:28:18,198 and or adjustments up on 4419 02:28:18,198 --> 02:28:18,932 consent. The city attorney. 4420 02:28:18,932 --> 02:28:20,701 Can we hear from our 4421 02:28:20,701 --> 02:28:22,701 procurement manager sorry, 4422 02:28:24,204 --> 02:28:24,938 Mayor, we do have a citizen 4423 02:28:24,938 --> 02:28:25,539 comments. Let's hear public 4424 02:28:25,539 --> 02:28:27,939 comment, please. First, Leon, 4425 02:28:32,450 --> 02:28:32,613 Moyer. Thank you, MR. 4426 02:28:32,613 --> 02:28:33,147 >> Good Morning, MR. Mayor 4427 02:28:33,147 --> 02:28:35,147 Commissioners, staff and 4428 02:28:37,618 --> 02:28:38,919 visitors thank you for the 4429 02:28:38,919 --> 02:28:40,454 opportunity with I'm going to 4430 02:28:40,454 --> 02:28:42,556 be referring to what you MAY 4431 02:28:42,556 --> 02:28:43,123 have is a link on your 4432 02:28:43,123 --> 02:28:45,523 website. They're called the 4433 02:28:46,326 --> 02:28:46,927 financial recommendation page 4434 02:28:46,927 --> 02:28:49,163 and you MAY wish to get that 4435 02:28:49,163 --> 02:28:50,831 on your computer's up. There. 4436 02:28:50,831 --> 02:28:51,364 I just want to make a comment 4437 02:28:51,364 --> 02:28:53,734 that this is a very large 4438 02:28:53,734 --> 02:28:56,734 amount of money close to 4439 02:28:57,505 --> 02:28:58,106 5 million dollars total. And I 4440 02:28:58,106 --> 02:29:01,106 don't know that spending this 4441 02:29:01,476 --> 02:29:02,209 type of tech money for modern 4442 02:29:02,209 --> 02:29:04,209 applications is necessarily 4443 02:29:04,379 --> 02:29:06,580 going to be beneficial to 4444 02:29:06,580 --> 02:29:09,651 everyone. It seems to me are 4445 02:29:09,651 --> 02:29:10,652 world is becoming more 4446 02:29:10,652 --> 02:29:12,652 complicated with modern 4447 02:29:12,753 --> 02:29:13,755 technology unit doesn't always 4448 02:29:13,755 --> 02:29:16,524 seem to really be saving. And 4449 02:29:16,524 --> 02:29:17,492 it MAY be at the expense of 4450 02:29:17,492 --> 02:29:18,260 getting rid of some employees, 4451 02:29:18,260 --> 02:29:20,426 perhaps who are currently 4452 02:29:24,866 --> 02:29:27,568 doing a good job. So 5 million 4453 02:29:27,568 --> 02:29:28,270 dollars subscription fee 4454 02:29:28,270 --> 02:29:30,270 3 million, 611,000 on the 4455 02:29:32,307 --> 02:29:33,808 contract value page and 4456 02:29:33,808 --> 02:29:36,411 training will be $98,000 is to 4457 02:29:36,411 --> 02:29:37,145 train people how to use a 4458 02:29:37,145 --> 02:29:39,548 software. So I wanted to bring 4459 02:29:39,548 --> 02:29:41,516 this to your attention that I 4460 02:29:41,516 --> 02:29:42,417 don't feel it's necessarily 4461 02:29:42,417 --> 02:29:44,419 going to be an improvement 4462 02:29:44,419 --> 02:29:45,453 over what you have for the 4463 02:29:45,453 --> 02:29:46,880 public's value. Thank you for 4464 02:29:46,880 --> 02:29:48,488 your consideration. Thank you, 4465 02:29:50,625 --> 02:29:51,930 sir. The only comment. Okay. 4466 02:29:51,930 --> 02:29:53,829 Can we hear from our 4467 02:29:53,829 --> 02:29:54,396 procurement manager? Please. 4468 02:29:54,396 --> 02:29:54,963 >> MISTER Mayor, we can. We 4469 02:29:54,963 --> 02:29:58,563 have a look at Lucas. Thank 4470 02:30:00,690 --> 02:30:03,690 you. They've people at the 4471 02:30:05,508 --> 02:30:06,408 power point, please. MR. Mayor 4472 02:30:06,408 --> 02:30:08,409 City would like to present 4473 02:30:08,409 --> 02:30:10,809 power 0.2 as a financial 4474 02:30:13,820 --> 02:30:14,783 analysis. So what I would like 4475 02:30:14,783 --> 02:30:16,850 to point out is currently 4476 02:30:16,850 --> 02:30:17,386 where you to the point of last 4477 02:30:17,386 --> 02:30:17,987 commission meeting. Here are 4478 02:30:17,987 --> 02:30:19,522 the 8 identified system that 4479 02:30:19,522 --> 02:30:20,389 we're currently operating 4480 02:30:20,389 --> 02:30:21,691 under. 4481 02:30:21,691 --> 02:30:23,292 >> So you can see all of the 4482 02:30:23,292 --> 02:30:25,895 systems right now to carry a 4483 02:30:25,895 --> 02:30:27,895 current cost of $291,000 4484 02:30:28,798 --> 02:30:32,201 annually, which will go up to 4485 02:30:32,201 --> 02:30:32,768 200 excuse me, 200 in 4486 02:30:32,768 --> 02:30:35,768 $329,000. If we do not move 4487 02:30:37,573 --> 02:30:38,541 forward, the erp. So right 4488 02:30:38,541 --> 02:30:39,675 here is all of our a legacy 4489 02:30:39,675 --> 02:30:40,409 system. So you can see central 4490 02:30:40,409 --> 02:30:42,879 Square comes in at a value 4491 02:30:42,879 --> 02:30:45,279 annual. We have 156,000 and 4492 02:30:45,515 --> 02:30:47,915 line comes in at 42,000. 4493 02:30:48,170 --> 02:30:50,417 Bonfire comes in at 520,000 4494 02:30:51,321 --> 02:30:53,721 Fred, at 900 and urgent, 9,200 4495 02:30:55,900 --> 02:30:57,293 bucks staff at 11,000 or Clay 4496 02:30:57,293 --> 02:30:59,496 gmt hcm at 42,000 and Euna 4497 02:30:59,496 --> 02:31:01,896 Solutions. Grant Management at 4498 02:31:05,268 --> 02:31:07,270 another $2,400. This a visual 4499 02:31:07,270 --> 02:31:09,239 kind of show you while 4500 02:31:09,239 --> 02:31:11,740 workday, erp system does seem 4501 02:31:11,740 --> 02:31:11,674 on an annual basis. We're 4502 02:31:11,674 --> 02:31:14,740 already pretty much incurring 4503 02:31:14,143 --> 02:31:17,113 those costs anyway, right? So 4504 02:31:17,113 --> 02:31:18,348 if I could go back to this 4505 02:31:18,348 --> 02:31:20,617 slide. The difference in these 4506 02:31:20,617 --> 02:31:23,170 costs as about $40,000 right? 4507 02:31:23,787 --> 02:31:24,788 So the efficiencies of just at 4508 02:31:24,788 --> 02:31:25,389 $40,000 cost increases is 4509 02:31:25,389 --> 02:31:28,625 going to be a savings across 4510 02:31:28,625 --> 02:31:32,825 the board and and we would see 4511 02:31:33,863 --> 02:31:35,799 that just in our payroll so 4512 02:31:35,799 --> 02:31:38,799 again, the contract is for 4513 02:31:39,803 --> 02:31:40,871 4.6, 7 million dollars. The 4514 02:31:40,871 --> 02:31:42,506 subscription cost is 3.6, 4515 02:31:42,506 --> 02:31:45,709 which we did reduce that down 4516 02:31:45,709 --> 02:31:47,845 by about $649,000. And we're 4517 02:31:47,845 --> 02:31:48,446 still trying to work that down 4518 02:31:48,446 --> 02:31:49,747 further, not the subscription 4519 02:31:49,747 --> 02:31:50,982 costs. We feel that that is 4520 02:31:50,982 --> 02:31:51,782 adequate. But what we are 4521 02:31:51,782 --> 02:31:54,418 going to focus on is trying to 4522 02:31:54,418 --> 02:31:56,420 lower that implementation cost 4523 02:31:56,420 --> 02:31:57,388 training is coming in at about 4524 02:31:57,388 --> 02:31:59,123 $98,000. And again, that would 4525 02:31:59,123 --> 02:32:01,123 equate to 4.6, 4 million 4526 02:32:04,127 --> 02:32:04,327 dollars. I don't want to hit 4527 02:32:04,327 --> 02:32:04,452 too h# 4528 02:32:04,452 --> 02:32:04,581 # 4529 02:32:04,581 --> 02:32:04,731 # 4530 02:32:04,731 --> 02:32:05,463 o# 4531 02:32:05,463 --> 02:32:07,164 these deficiencies 4532 02:32:07,164 --> 02:32:08,366 because I don't want you to 4533 02:32:08,366 --> 02:32:10,680 assume that on the top and or 4534 02:32:10,680 --> 02:32:13,137 the low and that we would 4535 02:32:13,137 --> 02:32:14,672 actually meet these for us to 4536 02:32:14,672 --> 02:32:16,641 assume target reductions. We 4537 02:32:16,641 --> 02:32:18,142 have to go live. And so while 4538 02:32:18,142 --> 02:32:20,542 these are the suggested 4539 02:32:21,346 --> 02:32:22,680 reductions or efficiencies. 4540 02:32:22,680 --> 02:32:23,514 Suggested to us by workday. 4541 02:32:23,514 --> 02:32:25,350 Again, we're going to have to 4542 02:32:25,350 --> 02:32:26,500 implement these processes and 4543 02:32:26,500 --> 02:32:26,618 work through them in order for 4544 02:32:26,618 --> 02:32:29,618 us to actually quite those 4545 02:32:33,358 --> 02:32:33,959 efficiencies. Again, just the 4546 02:32:33,959 --> 02:32:35,893 financial rationale, we would 4547 02:32:35,893 --> 02:32:38,697 ask that you approve this 4548 02:32:38,697 --> 02:32:39,764 item. We do have work day as 4549 02:32:39,764 --> 02:32:40,398 well as brick and erp here for 4550 02:32:40,398 --> 02:32:43,998 any questions that you guys we 4551 02:32:44,503 --> 02:32:45,270 have. 4552 02:32:45,270 --> 02:32:45,871 >> One question before before. 4553 02:32:45,871 --> 02:32:48,871 Just one quick question, did 4554 02:32:49,541 --> 02:32:51,543 the term change? The term did 4555 02:32:51,543 --> 02:32:52,644 not change? So again, we left 4556 02:32:52,644 --> 02:32:53,278 it for a 10 year. The 4557 02:32:53,278 --> 02:32:54,112 recommendation from 4558 02:32:54,112 --> 02:32:56,512 procurement staff would always 4559 02:32:56,548 --> 02:32:57,583 be that you do not change erp 4560 02:32:57,583 --> 02:32:59,500 systems. Every. 4561 02:32:59,500 --> 02:33:00,119 >> For 5 years that you do 4562 02:33:00,119 --> 02:33:03,355 lock that into a multi-year. I 4563 02:33:03,355 --> 02:33:03,956 would recommend 7 to 10 moving 4564 02:33:03,956 --> 02:33:04,523 forward in any condition. If 4565 02:33:04,523 --> 02:33:08,123 you look forward to this in 4566 02:33:09,461 --> 02:33:10,596 the future. You're paying a 4567 02:33:10,596 --> 02:33:11,563 large implementation costs. 4568 02:33:11,563 --> 02:33:12,798 Right? And so if you're 4569 02:33:12,798 --> 02:33:14,732 assuming every 5 years you're 4570 02:33:14,732 --> 02:33:15,568 going to go through a new 4571 02:33:15,568 --> 02:33:16,135 Europe, he change that's a 4572 02:33:16,135 --> 02:33:16,735 million dollars that you're 4573 02:33:16,735 --> 02:33:18,203 losing every 5 years. So the 4574 02:33:18,203 --> 02:33:19,104 recommendation would be that 4575 02:33:19,104 --> 02:33:22,704 you utilize is for a 10 year 4576 02:33:23,442 --> 02:33:25,842 period. Now, Mayor Coffman, 4577 02:33:26,611 --> 02:33:28,447 what we did do is talk to rpa 4578 02:33:28,447 --> 02:33:29,114 workday and iron brick about 4579 02:33:29,114 --> 02:33:30,983 locking in a fixed rate for 4580 02:33:30,983 --> 02:33:33,319 the 10 years. But then doing a 4581 02:33:33,319 --> 02:33:36,550 5, 5, So that was one of your 4582 02:33:36,550 --> 02:33:37,890 request. So we did put that in 4583 02:33:37,890 --> 02:33:37,957 there, which we do have 4584 02:33:37,957 --> 02:33:38,558 negotiate in our resolution. 4585 02:33:38,558 --> 02:33:40,860 So if that be the will of the 4586 02:33:40,860 --> 02:33:41,561 commission, we could. 4587 02:33:41,561 --> 02:33:44,464 >> Bring that in. And is there 4588 02:33:44,464 --> 02:33:45,598 a minimum number of years 4589 02:33:45,598 --> 02:33:47,998 without can't for cancellation 4590 02:33:49,869 --> 02:33:50,837 or is Is it the 10 years? News 4591 02:33:50,837 --> 02:33:51,905 if there was shift change in 4592 02:33:51,905 --> 02:33:52,539 the city, wanted to go in a 4593 02:33:52,539 --> 02:33:54,939 different direction, wanted to 4594 02:33:55,574 --> 02:33:56,276 cancel the contract. Is there 4595 02:33:56,276 --> 02:33:57,209 is there a minimum number of 4596 02:33:57,209 --> 02:33:59,946 years that is required or is 4597 02:33:59,946 --> 02:34:01,147 it that the 10 year term? So I 4598 02:34:01,147 --> 02:34:02,983 would have to relook into 4599 02:34:02,983 --> 02:34:03,817 that. So again, we are going 4600 02:34:03,817 --> 02:34:05,951 to bake in some of our city 4601 02:34:05,951 --> 02:34:07,921 terms and conditions the So at 4602 02:34:07,921 --> 02:34:09,623 that point, what we could do 4603 02:34:09,623 --> 02:34:11,258 is work with our and to to 4604 02:34:11,258 --> 02:34:13,658 iron out those that 4605 02:34:14,930 --> 02:34:15,195 termination schedule. 4606 02:34:15,195 --> 02:34:17,195 >> Commissioner Kaseya. Yeah. 4607 02:34:18,498 --> 02:34:18,765 My my biggest question is this 4608 02:34:18,765 --> 02:34:19,232 citywide? 4609 02:34:19,232 --> 02:34:21,232 >> All-out locations. 4610 02:34:22,869 --> 02:34:24,771 Everything. So while it does 4611 02:34:24,771 --> 02:34:25,371 appear to be a financial in hr 4612 02:34:25,371 --> 02:34:27,741 purchase, it will affect all 4613 02:34:27,741 --> 02:34:29,309 city staff. Yes. 4614 02:34:29,309 --> 02:34:31,709 >> Because my reason for 4615 02:34:32,980 --> 02:34:33,581 saying that down the new 4616 02:34:33,581 --> 02:34:34,481 community center and then and 4617 02:34:34,481 --> 02:34:36,383 it's a you can even get a cell 4618 02:34:36,383 --> 02:34:39,383 phone to work in that 4619 02:34:40,187 --> 02:34:42,587 building. That's a brand 4620 02:34:42,823 --> 02:34:46,600 building. It comes so I was 4621 02:34:46,600 --> 02:34:46,660 attacked a minute ago that you 4622 02:34:46,660 --> 02:34:50,163 can come to city Hall and use 4623 02:34:50,163 --> 02:34:52,132 the Internet here. But you can 4624 02:34:52,132 --> 02:34:54,134 go to Douglas Jim'll old 4625 02:34:54,134 --> 02:34:57,134 community center and use the 4626 02:34:58,720 --> 02:34:59,600 Wi-Fi. I mean, I'm not 4627 02:34:59,600 --> 02:35:01,675 engineer will do anything to 4628 02:35:01,675 --> 02:35:02,677 do with that type of thing is 4629 02:35:02,677 --> 02:35:05,346 you want to know anything 4630 02:35:05,346 --> 02:35:06,613 about that guy and I can help 4631 02:35:06,613 --> 02:35:09,417 you. But so get to that point, 4632 02:35:09,417 --> 02:35:10,418 what I would say they do hate, 4633 02:35:10,418 --> 02:35:10,985 even have a mobile 4634 02:35:10,985 --> 02:35:12,487 connectivity, right? So so 4635 02:35:12,487 --> 02:35:13,530 long as you have and to your 4636 02:35:13,530 --> 02:35:15,220 point Internet access, you 4637 02:35:15,220 --> 02:35:15,290 should be able to access 4638 02:35:15,290 --> 02:35:16,190 workday. 4639 02:35:16,190 --> 02:35:19,790 >> At any of our locations at 4640 02:35:19,861 --> 02:35:22,861 any of our location. That's 4641 02:35:23,980 --> 02:35:23,865 thank Any other commissioners, 4642 02:35:23,865 --> 02:35:24,432 okay. Have to go I just wanted 4643 02:35:24,432 --> 02:35:26,468 to think Lucas for the work 4644 02:35:26,468 --> 02:35:27,734 that you put into this a month 4645 02:35:27,734 --> 02:35:28,169 ago. 4646 02:35:28,169 --> 02:35:30,504 >> When I was not a 4647 02:35:30,504 --> 02:35:31,840 commissioner, I asked for 4648 02:35:31,840 --> 02:35:33,541 postponement because I wanted 4649 02:35:33,541 --> 02:35:37,412 to make sure that the city was 4650 02:35:37,412 --> 02:35:39,130 ready for this implementation. 4651 02:35:39,130 --> 02:35:39,747 And I ask that iron brick 4652 02:35:39,747 --> 02:35:41,816 common. You guys all did that 4653 02:35:41,816 --> 02:35:43,851 and that there's going to be a 4654 02:35:43,851 --> 02:35:44,619 presentation from brick and 4655 02:35:44,619 --> 02:35:46,454 I'm going to ask the rest of 4656 02:35:46,454 --> 02:35:48,854 the commission pay close 4657 02:35:49,658 --> 02:35:51,393 attention to their 4658 02:35:51,393 --> 02:35:52,227 presentation. And you said 4659 02:35:52,227 --> 02:35:54,429 most of the reduction in costs 4660 02:35:54,429 --> 02:35:56,829 came from the implementation. 4661 02:35:58,233 --> 02:36:00,402 There are no it sees a 4662 02:36:00,402 --> 02:36:02,538 subscription cars must and I 4663 02:36:02,538 --> 02:36:04,907 do have experience in this 4664 02:36:04,907 --> 02:36:05,373 about many, many years ago was 4665 02:36:05,373 --> 02:36:08,811 a part of a team that 4666 02:36:08,811 --> 02:36:10,279 implemented sapd at DuPont 4667 02:36:10,279 --> 02:36:11,913 Corporation and they the ceo 4668 02:36:11,913 --> 02:36:12,548 at the kickoff said, you know, 4669 02:36:12,548 --> 02:36:14,950 I don't think this is going to 4670 02:36:14,950 --> 02:36:17,520 work because we DuPont don't 4671 02:36:17,520 --> 02:36:17,820 integrate anything, but it 4672 02:36:17,820 --> 02:36:19,822 didn't do is considered one of 4673 02:36:19,822 --> 02:36:21,690 the best-run companies. 25 4674 02:36:21,690 --> 02:36:22,925 years later. And I also 4675 02:36:22,925 --> 02:36:25,325 implemented a sales force 4676 02:36:26,280 --> 02:36:28,263 customization for my own 4677 02:36:28,263 --> 02:36:32,334 company. And I you I wanted to 4678 02:36:32,334 --> 02:36:33,735 speak to the term of 10 years. 4679 02:36:33,735 --> 02:36:37,173 That is common. I promised my 4680 02:36:37,173 --> 02:36:38,608 business partners at the drp 4681 02:36:38,608 --> 02:36:39,174 implementation that I was 4682 02:36:39,174 --> 02:36:41,574 doing would last 4 election 4683 02:36:41,744 --> 02:36:43,812 cycles, which is 8 years. 4684 02:36:43,812 --> 02:36:46,812 They're still using it today. 4685 02:36:47,617 --> 02:36:48,417 And now we're on your 14. So 4686 02:36:48,417 --> 02:36:51,120 it is important for us to get 4687 02:36:51,120 --> 02:36:53,220 this right during the the 4688 02:36:53,220 --> 02:36:53,723 implementation part. And 4689 02:36:53,723 --> 02:36:56,626 that's why I'm really looking 4690 02:36:56,626 --> 02:36:58,561 forward to Iron Bricks, 4691 02:36:58,561 --> 02:36:59,662 presentation. But if this is 4692 02:36:59,662 --> 02:37:03,500 done right, and we do need new 4693 02:37:03,500 --> 02:37:04,968 systems, trust This could 4694 02:37:04,968 --> 02:37:05,802 really, really change the way 4695 02:37:05,802 --> 02:37:08,802 that the city does business 4696 02:37:09,539 --> 02:37:11,241 and can really improved the 4697 02:37:11,241 --> 02:37:12,209 services that we give our 4698 02:37:12,209 --> 02:37:13,943 residents. This is something 4699 02:37:13,943 --> 02:37:15,780 that I'm very excited about. 4700 02:37:15,780 --> 02:37:16,460 Thanks, Lucas. Yes, 4701 02:37:16,460 --> 02:37:17,800 commissioner, to your point, I 4702 02:37:17,800 --> 02:37:18,181 would hope in my tenure here 4703 02:37:18,181 --> 02:37:19,415 that this be the only time 4704 02:37:19,415 --> 02:37:20,883 that we would transition to 4705 02:37:20,883 --> 02:37:22,586 the New system such here point 4706 02:37:22,586 --> 02:37:23,420 hopefully 15, 30 years would 4707 02:37:23,420 --> 02:37:24,521 be. 4708 02:37:24,521 --> 02:37:25,422 >> Beneficial for us. We do 4709 02:37:25,422 --> 02:37:25,956 get automatic updates as part 4710 02:37:25,956 --> 02:37:28,257 of being on the cloud and 4711 02:37:28,257 --> 02:37:28,858 basin. The subscription. One 4712 02:37:28,858 --> 02:37:32,458 thing I would like to correct 4713 02:37:32,529 --> 02:37:34,640 is work day. Breaking them are 4714 02:37:34,640 --> 02:37:34,665 not here to have a 4715 02:37:34,665 --> 02:37:36,667 presentation. They're here to 4716 02:37:36,667 --> 02:37:39,667 field any questions that you 4717 02:37:39,903 --> 02:37:40,503 MAY have. So I decided that do 4718 02:37:40,503 --> 02:37:41,710 want there is no presentation 4719 02:37:41,710 --> 02:37:44,671 And I do have questions up. 4720 02:37:45,775 --> 02:37:48,175 Please continue. Questions of 4721 02:37:48,846 --> 02:37:51,414 of Iron Bridge, right? And 4722 02:37:51,414 --> 02:37:52,160 it's a stay of So my my 4723 02:37:52,160 --> 02:37:53,383 question to them one is have 4724 02:37:53,383 --> 02:37:54,385 you done an evaluation to 4725 02:37:54,385 --> 02:37:55,619 determine? 4726 02:37:55,619 --> 02:37:57,989 >> That the city is ready to 4727 02:37:57,989 --> 02:38:02,189 do this and who on staff has 4728 02:38:02,426 --> 02:38:05,950 been identified as being the, 4729 02:38:05,950 --> 02:38:06,930 you primary stakeholder in 4730 02:38:06,930 --> 02:38:08,933 this implementation? And how 4731 02:38:08,933 --> 02:38:10,330 much are you asking of staff 4732 02:38:10,330 --> 02:38:11,869 during this implementation? As 4733 02:38:11,869 --> 02:38:13,904 I understand it through the 4734 02:38:13,904 --> 02:38:16,904 documentation that the hope is 4735 02:38:17,742 --> 02:38:18,343 for ago Life of JULY of 2027. 4736 02:38:18,343 --> 02:38:21,713 I just wanted to kind of hear 4737 02:38:21,713 --> 02:38:22,813 from from iron brick what 4738 02:38:22,813 --> 02:38:23,413 their thoughts are and how 4739 02:38:23,413 --> 02:38:26,617 this is going to go with the 4740 02:38:26,617 --> 02:38:27,752 stakeholders are going to be 4741 02:38:27,752 --> 02:38:28,353 and what those milestones are. 4742 02:38:28,353 --> 02:38:31,789 The updates that we will get 4743 02:38:31,789 --> 02:38:33,591 as a commission during this 4744 02:38:33,591 --> 02:38:34,959 implementation. I would love 4745 02:38:34,959 --> 02:38:38,559 to see not every month, but, 4746 02:38:38,730 --> 02:38:41,166 you know, maybe quarterly to 4747 02:38:41,166 --> 02:38:41,732 hear from either staff or iron 4748 02:38:41,732 --> 02:38:45,437 brick as to where we are in 4749 02:38:45,437 --> 02:38:46,300 the implementation. Out of the 4750 02:38:46,300 --> 02:38:47,806 courtesy of the consultants 4751 02:38:47,806 --> 02:38:51,406 here. Maybe we can field those 4752 02:38:52,443 --> 02:38:52,977 questions. One by one that 4753 02:38:52,977 --> 02:38:55,613 that is the law the legal 4754 02:38:55,613 --> 02:38:58,383 world. We call that a compound 4755 02:38:58,383 --> 02:39:00,452 question just allowed. It's 4756 02:39:00,452 --> 02:39:01,530 section. Yeah, good, good MR. 4757 02:39:01,530 --> 02:39:03,422 Parkin the manager think MR. 4758 02:39:03,422 --> 02:39:04,455 Mascot, which is the first 4759 02:39:04,455 --> 02:39:05,758 question you'd like My first 4760 02:39:05,758 --> 02:39:07,559 question is the evaluation of 4761 02:39:07,559 --> 02:39:08,160 the readiness of the city to, 4762 02:39:08,160 --> 02:39:11,160 you know, undertake does this 4763 02:39:13,632 --> 02:39:15,632 enormous project? 4764 02:39:15,868 --> 02:39:16,468 >> They're not ready yet. Know 4765 02:39:16,468 --> 02:39:18,868 they're introduce the brink. 4766 02:39:19,805 --> 02:39:20,372 Wants break as well as erp. 4767 02:39:20,372 --> 02:39:22,107 That should feel questions. 4768 02:39:22,107 --> 02:39:22,708 One thing I would like to 4769 02:39:22,708 --> 02:39:24,143 clarify, though, as we know, 4770 02:39:24,143 --> 02:39:24,877 have not had conversations on 4771 02:39:24,877 --> 02:39:25,744 steering committees are those 4772 02:39:25,744 --> 02:39:29,344 types of things I felt that 4773 02:39:29,382 --> 02:39:29,916 would be inadequate and not a 4774 02:39:29,916 --> 02:39:30,482 waste of their time with 4775 02:39:30,482 --> 02:39:33,285 should we not move forward 4776 02:39:33,285 --> 02:39:34,286 with this resolution item, ok? 4777 02:39:34,286 --> 02:39:37,790 So we have not identified the 4778 02:39:37,790 --> 02:39:38,391 stakeholders for this project. 4779 02:39:38,391 --> 02:39:38,924 We've identified departments 4780 02:39:38,924 --> 02:39:41,324 and individuals who will 4781 02:39:42,795 --> 02:39:45,195 represent those Yes, they're 4782 02:39:45,497 --> 02:39:46,132 so that my next question, if 4783 02:39:46,132 --> 02:39:47,133 we're going to that to my next 4784 02:39:47,133 --> 02:39:49,268 question was about the staff 4785 02:39:49,268 --> 02:39:51,604 and stakeholders. The next one 4786 02:39:51,604 --> 02:39:54,400 is about the implementation 4787 02:39:54,339 --> 02:39:55,540 timelines and milestones in 4788 02:39:55,540 --> 02:39:56,575 the calendar. 4789 02:39:56,575 --> 02:39:57,643 >> And we know what's going to 4790 02:39:57,643 --> 02:40:00,513 go first. How long do we have 4791 02:40:00,513 --> 02:40:03,416 to run in peril? Do that 4792 02:40:03,416 --> 02:40:04,951 again? So let's start with 4793 02:40:04,951 --> 02:40:05,552 first question is timeline of 4794 02:40:05,552 --> 02:40:07,952 this implementation and what 4795 02:40:09,589 --> 02:40:11,589 those milestones are? 4796 02:40:13,526 --> 02:40:14,930 >> get it. But I think it 4797 02:40:14,930 --> 02:40:15,280 >> First lets just say good 4798 02:40:15,280 --> 02:40:15,629 morning. We appreciate the 4799 02:40:15,629 --> 02:40:17,300 opportunity here answer your 4800 02:40:17,300 --> 02:40:18,732 questions on John King has 4801 02:40:18,732 --> 02:40:19,298 been with work day in. Excuse 4802 02:40:19,298 --> 02:40:22,336 me. I'm kind of little bit 4803 02:40:22,336 --> 02:40:23,570 under the weather today. I 4804 02:40:23,570 --> 02:40:24,171 represent workday, local 4805 02:40:24,171 --> 02:40:26,571 government for South Florida. 4806 02:40:28,508 --> 02:40:29,109 I out of the Fort Myers. The 4807 02:40:29,109 --> 02:40:32,212 question that you just ask is 4808 02:40:32,212 --> 02:40:33,146 best answered by your pa their 4809 02:40:33,146 --> 02:40:33,779 the implementation partner 4810 02:40:33,779 --> 02:40:35,816 Workday actually develops. Who 4811 02:40:35,816 --> 02:40:36,283 provides the software and 4812 02:40:36,283 --> 02:40:38,283 because the contract 4813 02:40:39,753 --> 02:40:42,210 administrator, so hi, Javier 4814 02:40:42,210 --> 02:40:45,159 Sanchez with a r p a just to 4815 02:40:45,159 --> 02:40:46,159 directly answer your question. 4816 02:40:46,159 --> 02:40:46,693 >> Yeah, we have a value it at 4817 02:40:46,693 --> 02:40:48,896 the time line. We have a 4818 02:40:48,896 --> 02:40:51,970 proven methodology. We've done 4819 02:40:51,970 --> 02:40:52,266 several several government and 4820 02:40:52,266 --> 02:40:52,833 we feel that the time line 4821 02:40:52,833 --> 02:40:55,202 that's been set forth this 4822 02:40:55,202 --> 02:40:57,202 accurate okay. 4823 02:40:59,339 --> 02:41:00,408 >> another question for you. 4824 02:41:00,408 --> 02:41:03,408 How how much customization for 4825 02:41:03,611 --> 02:41:05,746 this city versus other cities 4826 02:41:05,746 --> 02:41:08,616 we have a lot of disjointed 4827 02:41:08,616 --> 02:41:10,183 systems here. Workday out of 4828 02:41:10,183 --> 02:41:11,152 the with work to actually out 4829 02:41:11,152 --> 02:41:12,920 of the box is very powerful 4830 02:41:12,920 --> 02:41:14,621 and very good and very 4831 02:41:14,621 --> 02:41:15,490 flexible. How much Cousins 4832 02:41:15,490 --> 02:41:18,926 Ation is required for the city 4833 02:41:18,926 --> 02:41:21,396 of Key West. Beautiful thing 4834 02:41:21,396 --> 02:41:23,630 prior to rpa I was. 4835 02:41:23,630 --> 02:41:24,532 >> And played 300 of workday. 4836 02:41:24,532 --> 02:41:27,532 It's been around. So, you 4837 02:41:28,369 --> 02:41:28,902 know, Macedon limitations yet. 4838 02:41:28,902 --> 02:41:29,503 The beautiful thing about 4839 02:41:29,503 --> 02:41:31,503 workday customizations aren't 4840 02:41:32,273 --> 02:41:33,374 required. It's all comparable. 4841 02:41:33,374 --> 02:41:34,509 We have validated. We've 4842 02:41:34,509 --> 02:41:36,544 worked with Lucas and his team 4843 02:41:36,544 --> 02:41:38,413 to validate scope and to 4844 02:41:38,413 --> 02:41:40,515 discuss your uniqueness to it 4845 02:41:40,515 --> 02:41:42,816 and nothing come up. That is 4846 02:41:42,816 --> 02:41:44,886 of any concern. That's great. 4847 02:41:44,886 --> 02:41:46,922 Great here. I don't have any 4848 02:41:46,922 --> 02:41:48,890 other questions, MR. Mayor, 4849 02:41:48,890 --> 02:41:51,290 thank you. MISTER Commissioner 4850 02:41:52,561 --> 02:41:54,561 mascot. Other commissioners. 4851 02:41:55,630 --> 02:41:56,980 Commissioner One quick 4852 02:41:56,980 --> 02:41:56,832 question far was and 4853 02:41:56,832 --> 02:41:58,400 everything. If what about 4854 02:41:58,400 --> 02:42:00,800 getting hacked or any? 4855 02:42:04,600 --> 02:42:05,700 >> Were we had on that? 4856 02:42:05,700 --> 02:42:07,407 Ransomware the whole night. 4857 02:42:07,675 --> 02:42:10,512 This is rates. How does it 4858 02:42:10,512 --> 02:42:11,779 hold up to ransomware it? 4859 02:42:11,779 --> 02:42:12,714 >> Yeah. Hello. Agregan. The 4860 02:42:12,714 --> 02:42:14,717 Taos Ski. Thank you so much 4861 02:42:14,717 --> 02:42:17,486 for having us here today from 4862 02:42:17,486 --> 02:42:18,200 Work Day. I work with John and 4863 02:42:18,200 --> 02:42:20,622 I worked is a very secure 4864 02:42:20,622 --> 02:42:21,222 system. We have not been hat 4865 02:42:21,222 --> 02:42:24,822 in the past. There's been no 4866 02:42:25,561 --> 02:42:28,463 instances of that. So. We 4867 02:42:28,463 --> 02:42:29,465 support some of the largest 4868 02:42:29,465 --> 02:42:30,980 financial institutions the 4869 02:42:30,980 --> 02:42:33,980 United States. Our security is 4870 02:42:36,405 --> 02:42:37,340 top notch. And we have all the 4871 02:42:37,340 --> 02:42:37,939 security designations that are 4872 02:42:37,939 --> 02:42:39,609 available for viewing except 4873 02:42:39,609 --> 02:42:40,209 for that. You want to see. 4874 02:42:40,209 --> 02:42:43,809 >> All the stops to fall. The 4875 02:42:45,114 --> 02:42:48,114 compliance. As well as and 4876 02:42:49,685 --> 02:42:50,285 we're also certified. 4877 02:42:50,285 --> 02:42:50,787 >> So you're telling me if we 4878 02:42:50,787 --> 02:42:53,187 Brian, we implement the 4879 02:42:54,690 --> 02:42:55,425 system. I know there's always 4880 02:42:55,425 --> 02:42:58,425 a chance you impact. All 4881 02:43:02,131 --> 02:43:02,464 right. Part of this city 4882 02:43:02,464 --> 02:43:03,990 downplays of 4883 02:43:03,990 --> 02:43:03,699 >> getting everything back and 4884 02:43:03,699 --> 02:43:07,299 running again. If you do get 4885 02:43:08,238 --> 02:43:10,238 act. 4886 02:43:11,740 --> 02:43:14,911 >> say so want in all fairness 4887 02:43:14,911 --> 02:43:16,178 to our potential new partners 4888 02:43:16,178 --> 02:43:18,781 the access of the hack would 4889 02:43:18,781 --> 02:43:19,381 not necessarily go through In 4890 02:43:19,381 --> 02:43:22,452 my opinion, it would be some 4891 02:43:22,452 --> 02:43:23,487 type of breach from the city. 4892 02:43:23,487 --> 02:43:25,821 It's perspective. So what I 4893 02:43:25,821 --> 02:43:27,223 would say is I'd lean heavily 4894 02:43:27,223 --> 02:43:28,910 on on Dave his team in the it 4895 02:43:28,910 --> 02:43:29,760 Department to secure all 4896 02:43:29,760 --> 02:43:30,793 platforms that the city is 4897 02:43:30,793 --> 02:43:33,597 using. What will be our 4898 02:43:33,597 --> 02:43:34,498 methodology or process moving 4899 02:43:34,498 --> 02:43:35,320 forward. If we did have an 4900 02:43:35,320 --> 02:43:37,432 occurrence, we've had an 4901 02:43:38,702 --> 02:43:39,703 occurrence in the past. So the 4902 02:43:39,703 --> 02:43:40,737 individuals that were there at 4903 02:43:40,737 --> 02:43:43,339 the time are also here at the 4904 02:43:43,339 --> 02:43:45,175 time. At least 8 is so that 4905 02:43:45,175 --> 02:43:45,709 would more than likely be 4906 02:43:45,709 --> 02:43:46,410 something that they could 4907 02:43:46,410 --> 02:43:48,344 speak to directly. But we do 4908 02:43:48,344 --> 02:43:48,912 have the ability to recover. 4909 02:43:48,912 --> 02:43:50,714 It depends on size and the 4910 02:43:50,714 --> 02:43:52,850 scope and significance of the 4911 02:43:52,850 --> 02:43:53,983 impact. But I would believe 4912 02:43:53,983 --> 02:43:54,852 that would be unfair to direct 4913 02:43:54,852 --> 02:43:56,190 that to our potential new 4914 02:43:56,190 --> 02:43:56,720 partners because that would be 4915 02:43:56,720 --> 02:43:58,550 something that would be our 4916 02:43:58,550 --> 02:44:00,455 breach and not necessarily 4917 02:44:01,825 --> 02:44:04,825 their platform. Safe to say 4918 02:44:05,563 --> 02:44:07,832 Vice Mayor Lee was next. 4919 02:44:07,832 --> 02:44:08,532 Motion approved. Is there a 4920 02:44:08,532 --> 02:44:09,700 motion to approve? Is there a 4921 02:44:09,700 --> 02:44:10,267 second? I'd like to second 4922 02:44:10,267 --> 02:44:12,267 commissioner mascot seconds 4923 02:44:13,237 --> 02:44:15,720 for more discussion. 4924 02:44:15,720 --> 02:44:15,673 >> Can't have one more 4925 02:44:15,673 --> 02:44:16,307 question work. Believe almost 4926 02:44:16,307 --> 02:44:16,974 like a commissioner concealing 4927 02:44:16,974 --> 02:44:19,374 and commissioner mask. How 4928 02:44:19,777 --> 02:44:21,112 much down time. 4929 02:44:21,112 --> 02:44:23,810 >> Would they be between deal 4930 02:44:23,810 --> 02:44:26,810 system and this system while 4931 02:44:29,120 --> 02:44:29,954 this is being implemented. 4932 02:44:29,954 --> 02:44:30,521 >> Down time with respect to 4933 02:44:30,521 --> 02:44:33,521 making the change from one 4934 02:44:34,159 --> 02:44:36,193 system to another transition 4935 02:44:36,193 --> 02:44:38,196 year. Yeah. So we'd be working 4936 02:44:38,196 --> 02:44:38,797 with your teens, the team that 4937 02:44:38,797 --> 02:44:41,640 supporting the deployment on 4938 02:44:41,640 --> 02:44:42,200 your side of the equation. 4939 02:44:42,200 --> 02:44:42,833 We'd be working with them to 4940 02:44:42,833 --> 02:44:43,500 make sure that we have a clean 4941 02:44:43,500 --> 02:44:46,500 cut out. There should be 0 4942 02:44:46,503 --> 02:44:48,640 downtime. Now, there might be 4943 02:44:48,640 --> 02:44:49,674 lag from one or 2 legacy 4944 02:44:49,674 --> 02:44:51,243 systems that have to stay 4945 02:44:51,243 --> 02:44:52,277 online until we bring it up. 4946 02:44:52,277 --> 02:44:55,277 But that is determined before 4947 02:44:56,615 --> 02:44:57,215 we even start the deployment. 4948 02:44:57,215 --> 02:44:57,782 Beautiful run in peril of my 4949 02:44:57,782 --> 02:44:59,885 my question was the b's of 4950 02:44:59,885 --> 02:45:01,885 Sorry. 4951 02:45:03,989 --> 02:45:05,791 >> That's okay. Thank you, MR. 4952 02:45:05,791 --> 02:45:07,580 Still learning. Last question 4953 02:45:07,580 --> 02:45:08,327 to work Day is that licensing 4954 02:45:08,327 --> 02:45:09,161 fee for 10 years includes all 4955 02:45:09,161 --> 02:45:09,761 of the updates and 4956 02:45:09,761 --> 02:45:12,161 improvements over the next 10 4957 02:45:13,799 --> 02:45:15,000 years. And everything. 4958 02:45:15,000 --> 02:45:17,000 >> That's correct. Data 4959 02:45:17,690 --> 02:45:17,970 storage, deploying the 4960 02:45:17,970 --> 02:45:18,537 application. It's all the 4961 02:45:18,537 --> 02:45:20,537 upgrades the functionality 4962 02:45:21,340 --> 02:45:22,141 improvements. All costs are 4963 02:45:22,141 --> 02:45:25,141 included, ok? And then one 4964 02:45:26,178 --> 02:45:26,779 last question for Work Day. 4965 02:45:26,779 --> 02:45:27,946 What happens in year 11 when 4966 02:45:27,946 --> 02:45:30,683 we want to keep it does. How 4967 02:45:30,683 --> 02:45:31,717 did we renegotiate this 4968 02:45:31,717 --> 02:45:32,351 contract? 4969 02:45:32,351 --> 02:45:33,118 >> Well, we'll be assigning to 4970 02:45:33,118 --> 02:45:33,686 what we call a customer care 4971 02:45:33,686 --> 02:45:36,589 manager be assigned to work 4972 02:45:36,589 --> 02:45:37,156 with you. 4973 02:45:37,156 --> 02:45:38,958 >> You know, day in and day 4974 02:45:38,958 --> 02:45:40,893 out over this next ten-year 4975 02:45:40,893 --> 02:45:42,861 period. I would imagine at 4976 02:45:42,861 --> 02:45:43,796 some point early in your 9 or 4977 02:45:43,796 --> 02:45:46,640 so this personal start having 4978 02:45:46,640 --> 02:45:47,933 those discussions with you 4979 02:45:47,933 --> 02:45:48,568 about, you know, do you want 4980 02:45:48,568 --> 02:45:50,369 to renew and if so, under what 4981 02:45:50,369 --> 02:45:52,438 terms and conditions and 4982 02:45:52,438 --> 02:45:53,539 though the negotiated price in 4983 02:45:53,539 --> 02:45:54,140 with you except the beauty of 4984 02:45:54,140 --> 02:45:55,707 this 10 year agreement, it's 4985 02:45:55,707 --> 02:45:57,743 already been mentioned. It's 4986 02:45:57,743 --> 02:45:59,478 you're locking in prices in 10 4987 02:45:59,478 --> 02:46:00,113 years. It doesn't matter if 4988 02:46:00,113 --> 02:46:03,160 the cost of computing the cost 4989 02:46:03,160 --> 02:46:03,582 of data storage. Labor costs, 4990 02:46:03,582 --> 02:46:05,582 etcetera, skyrocket during 4991 02:46:06,619 --> 02:46:08,654 that period. Time. This is 4992 02:46:08,654 --> 02:46:09,255 guaranteed cost. But at some 4993 02:46:09,255 --> 02:46:10,657 point, again, you'll just be 4994 02:46:10,657 --> 02:46:11,223 entering into those 4995 02:46:11,223 --> 02:46:11,824 negotiations. And it's it's 4996 02:46:11,824 --> 02:46:15,424 your decision to make at that 4997 02:46:16,128 --> 02:46:17,297 point. And if I MAY around 4998 02:46:17,297 --> 02:46:19,165 year 7, we would re-evaluate 4999 02:46:19,165 --> 02:46:19,599 as to whether they were under 5000 02:46:19,599 --> 02:46:20,866 another competitive 5001 02:46:20,866 --> 02:46:22,234 co-operative. If we did want 5002 02:46:22,234 --> 02:46:23,170 to extend it. But around your 5003 02:46:23,170 --> 02:46:24,437 7, we should start that 5004 02:46:24,437 --> 02:46:25,400 evaluation. If we did want to 5005 02:46:25,400 --> 02:46:25,539 transition out, that would 5006 02:46:25,539 --> 02:46:27,939 appropriate time to start 5007 02:46:28,700 --> 02:46:29,420 doing that. 5008 02:46:29,420 --> 02:46:29,676 >> Okay. 5009 02:46:29,676 --> 02:46:31,111 >> Commissioner Haskell, thank 5010 02:46:31,111 --> 02:46:32,440 you. Most of my questions were 5011 02:46:32,440 --> 02:46:34,444 answered last month. Thank 5012 02:46:35,449 --> 02:46:36,490 you, Lucas you guys for 5013 02:46:36,490 --> 02:46:38,652 negotiating the price down a 5014 02:46:38,652 --> 02:46:41,520 little bit. We appreciate 5015 02:46:41,555 --> 02:46:43,390 that. My remaining question is 5016 02:46:43,390 --> 02:46:45,125 how will data, the existing 5017 02:46:45,125 --> 02:46:45,825 data from the existing legacy 5018 02:46:45,825 --> 02:46:48,225 systems? How will that 5019 02:46:52,166 --> 02:46:52,733 preserved? 5020 02:46:52,733 --> 02:46:53,866 >> Again, we'll be working 5021 02:46:53,866 --> 02:46:56,866 with your teams directly to 5022 02:46:56,937 --> 02:46:57,638 figure out what the data 5023 02:46:57,638 --> 02:46:58,172 strategy is going to be. 5024 02:46:58,172 --> 02:47:00,140 There's going to be data 5025 02:47:00,140 --> 02:47:00,741 that's obviously going to be 5026 02:47:00,741 --> 02:47:03,143 put into the new system, the 5027 02:47:03,143 --> 02:47:05,450 new work, system, but we will 5028 02:47:05,450 --> 02:47:05,646 take a look at your legacy 5029 02:47:05,646 --> 02:47:07,481 system and work with you all 5030 02:47:07,481 --> 02:47:08,849 to figure out what is the best 5031 02:47:08,849 --> 02:47:09,550 approach both from a storage 5032 02:47:09,550 --> 02:47:09,983 perspective as well. And more 5033 02:47:09,983 --> 02:47:11,983 importantly, a cost 5034 02:47:14,221 --> 02:47:15,489 perspective. Commissioner has 5035 02:47:15,489 --> 02:47:16,257 go if I just relay some 5036 02:47:16,257 --> 02:47:18,259 information. So I did talk to 5037 02:47:18,259 --> 02:47:19,930 David Davis here obviously on 5038 02:47:19,930 --> 02:47:20,261 site. 5039 02:47:20,261 --> 02:47:23,197 >> But we do have data 5040 02:47:23,197 --> 02:47:23,798 servers. So once that that is 5041 02:47:23,798 --> 02:47:24,599 converted, those servers are 5042 02:47:24,599 --> 02:47:25,566 owned by the city's all of 5043 02:47:25,566 --> 02:47:26,660 that data will also be house 5044 02:47:26,660 --> 02:47:29,660 on those servers to my 5045 02:47:29,703 --> 02:47:30,338 understanding. 5046 02:47:30,338 --> 02:47:32,940 >> So what we have like a 5047 02:47:32,940 --> 02:47:35,340 snapshot of our existing 5048 02:47:36,143 --> 02:47:38,143 operations 5049 02:47:41,490 --> 02:47:41,649 >> after that conversion. 5050 02:47:41,649 --> 02:47:44,649 Could you could you reiterate 5051 02:47:45,953 --> 02:47:46,554 that question for me? 5052 02:47:46,554 --> 02:47:47,122 >> I am wondering if we will 5053 02:47:47,122 --> 02:47:50,722 have the ability to go back 5054 02:47:52,593 --> 02:47:53,627 and look at what the existing 5055 02:47:53,627 --> 02:47:57,827 data was, whether it be an hr 5056 02:47:58,933 --> 02:47:59,834 or some other department 5057 02:47:59,834 --> 02:48:00,468 before I we eliminated that. 5058 02:48:00,468 --> 02:48:04,680 Are we assuming it's all going 5059 02:48:05,440 --> 02:48:05,974 to? The gathered into the new 5060 02:48:05,974 --> 02:48:07,843 system and be used in the 5061 02:48:07,843 --> 02:48:11,443 system or are we keeping, you 5062 02:48:11,813 --> 02:48:12,848 know, like a second copy if it 5063 02:48:12,848 --> 02:48:13,448 was a paper system, you know, 5064 02:48:13,448 --> 02:48:15,483 what are we keeping a backup 5065 02:48:15,483 --> 02:48:18,287 copy somewhere? That's a good 5066 02:48:18,287 --> 02:48:20,222 question. So 5067 02:48:20,222 --> 02:48:22,458 >> in situations like this, 5068 02:48:22,458 --> 02:48:23,157 when you take an on premise 5069 02:48:23,157 --> 02:48:23,692 system and you move it to a 5070 02:48:23,692 --> 02:48:25,692 cloud-based architecture, 5071 02:48:26,270 --> 02:48:28,330 which is what they're doing. 5072 02:48:28,330 --> 02:48:31,330 You would take your existing. 5073 02:48:31,500 --> 02:48:32,670 On premise system and we would 5074 02:48:32,670 --> 02:48:33,535 do what's called archive at 5075 02:48:33,535 --> 02:48:35,404 the systems would be 5076 02:48:35,404 --> 02:48:37,600 essentially turned off 5077 02:48:37,600 --> 02:48:37,539 eventually and they'll 5078 02:48:37,539 --> 02:48:39,939 actually an archived copy 5079 02:48:39,942 --> 02:48:42,411 would be placed in long-term 5080 02:48:42,411 --> 02:48:45,414 storage. And the of that let's 5081 02:48:45,414 --> 02:48:48,317 say. 3 years from now or 5082 02:48:48,317 --> 02:48:50,553 something like that. You know 5083 02:48:50,553 --> 02:48:51,653 something didn't get migrate 5084 02:48:51,653 --> 02:48:52,688 or whatever. Some kind of are 5085 02:48:52,688 --> 02:48:55,880 looking for. That potential 5086 02:48:55,157 --> 02:48:56,859 could beat us. But we call 5087 02:48:56,859 --> 02:48:58,827 spend those service back up 5088 02:48:58,827 --> 02:48:59,395 and our private cloud data 5089 02:48:59,395 --> 02:49:01,297 center that we have here on 5090 02:49:01,297 --> 02:49:01,864 premise. And you could go in 5091 02:49:01,864 --> 02:49:04,864 and retrieve that data and 5092 02:49:07,971 --> 02:49:08,571 look at it. The day you go 5093 02:49:08,571 --> 02:49:11,571 live in a cloud-based system 5094 02:49:12,242 --> 02:49:13,143 here on premise, data is 5095 02:49:13,143 --> 02:49:15,543 irrelevant because changes are 5096 02:49:16,246 --> 02:49:17,613 being made. You know, as you 5097 02:49:17,613 --> 02:49:18,947 go live. So you can't really 5098 02:49:18,947 --> 02:49:20,883 use your old system anymore. 5099 02:49:20,883 --> 02:49:22,252 You can go back and look at it 5100 02:49:22,252 --> 02:49:24,652 from a historical perspective. 5101 02:49:26,122 --> 02:49:26,756 But I'm not sure you know, I'm 5102 02:49:26,756 --> 02:49:29,726 not sure that will be scoped 5103 02:49:29,726 --> 02:49:30,327 out even more in a business 5104 02:49:30,327 --> 02:49:33,163 process review when they kick 5105 02:49:33,163 --> 02:49:35,398 off. If this is approved and 5106 02:49:35,398 --> 02:49:36,833 they'll decide how many years 5107 02:49:36,833 --> 02:49:37,333 of data, that's everything. If 5108 02:49:37,333 --> 02:49:38,802 it sometimes 20 years, 5109 02:49:38,802 --> 02:49:39,903 sometimes it's 30. We I mean, 5110 02:49:39,903 --> 02:49:43,240 we have I think we probably 5111 02:49:43,240 --> 02:49:43,973 have 30 years of data. You 5112 02:49:43,973 --> 02:49:44,574 know, it just depends on, you 5113 02:49:44,574 --> 02:49:48,440 know what that scope is going 5114 02:49:48,440 --> 02:49:48,812 to be. But the systems are 5115 02:49:48,812 --> 02:49:50,681 like turned off. And Ali did 5116 02:49:50,681 --> 02:49:51,882 that are on Prem we don't do 5117 02:49:51,882 --> 02:49:52,483 that. So that's that's that's 5118 02:49:52,483 --> 02:49:55,483 not a good business practice 5119 02:49:55,686 --> 02:49:56,687 to do. We storage is really 5120 02:49:56,687 --> 02:49:58,288 not that expensive. You know, 5121 02:49:58,288 --> 02:49:59,523 from a from a data center 5122 02:49:59,523 --> 02:50:00,123 perspective. There's no reason 5123 02:50:00,123 --> 02:50:04,227 for us not to be able to keep 5124 02:50:04,227 --> 02:50:04,827 it. So. 5125 02:50:04,827 --> 02:50:07,227 >> Any other discussion from 5126 02:50:08,231 --> 02:50:11,831 the commission? I just want to 5127 02:50:12,290 --> 02:50:12,636 thank you all for bringing us 5128 02:50:12,636 --> 02:50:14,271 into the 21st Century. No more 5129 02:50:14,271 --> 02:50:16,307 handwritten payroll slips. I 5130 02:50:16,307 --> 02:50:19,243 guess for us or whatever else 5131 02:50:19,243 --> 02:50:19,810 we do. So this is all really 5132 02:50:19,810 --> 02:50:20,344 good news for greater 5133 02:50:20,344 --> 02:50:20,910 efficiency. So with that, 5134 02:50:20,910 --> 02:50:23,910 MADAM Clerk, can you please 5135 02:50:26,517 --> 02:50:27,552 call the roll? Commissioner 5136 02:50:27,552 --> 02:50:29,552 Carey? Yes, commissioner 5137 02:50:29,553 --> 02:50:31,553 Castillo. Yes, commissioner 5138 02:50:31,722 --> 02:50:32,623 Haskell. Yes, Shirley. Yes. 5139 02:50:32,623 --> 02:50:33,257 Commissioner mascot. Yes, 5140 02:50:33,257 --> 02:50:33,825 Rossi. Yes, mayor coffee. Yes. 5141 02:50:33,825 --> 02:50:36,825 Thank you. Thank you. All. 5142 02:50:38,228 --> 02:50:39,130 >> guys. Okay. The only 5143 02:50:39,130 --> 02:50:41,165 resolution left is the one we 5144 02:50:41,165 --> 02:50:42,100 table item. Number 12 Murray 5145 02:50:42,100 --> 02:50:43,301 rated approving under the 5146 02:50:43,301 --> 02:50:45,136 General Architectural services 5147 02:50:45,136 --> 02:50:46,370 contract with under an 5148 02:50:46,370 --> 02:50:47,205 associates. Architects pa a 5149 02:50:47,205 --> 02:50:49,340 task order for professional 5150 02:50:49,340 --> 02:50:51,142 design services for Mallory 5151 02:50:51,142 --> 02:50:53,542 Square innovation and addition 5152 02:50:55,146 --> 02:50:55,680 in the amount of 202,000 $645 5153 02:50:55,680 --> 02:50:57,680 authorizing any necessary 5154 02:50:58,215 --> 02:50:59,417 budget transfers or amendments 5155 02:50:59,417 --> 02:51:00,551 authorizing the city manager 5156 02:51:00,551 --> 02:51:01,860 to execute necessary documents 5157 02:51:01,860 --> 02:51:04,686 up on consent of the city 5158 02:51:05,823 --> 02:51:06,390 attorney. Okay. Did we leave 5159 02:51:06,390 --> 02:51:08,592 off with? Turkish and from 5160 02:51:08,592 --> 02:51:10,992 commissioner, how school? And 5161 02:51:12,263 --> 02:51:15,263 she noted that. All right, 5162 02:51:15,267 --> 02:51:17,667 right. The resolution itself 5163 02:51:19,103 --> 02:51:19,670 says in the second paragraph 5164 02:51:19,670 --> 02:51:22,700 that the existing bathroom 5165 02:51:23,342 --> 02:51:26,244 will be renovated and that an 5166 02:51:26,244 --> 02:51:27,279 additional bathroom would be 5167 02:51:27,279 --> 02:51:29,679 constructed and it says 5168 02:51:31,250 --> 02:51:32,717 adjacent to the existing 5169 02:51:32,717 --> 02:51:33,619 facility that that's not that 5170 02:51:33,619 --> 02:51:36,855 part is not reflective of what 5171 02:51:36,855 --> 02:51:39,855 task one and task 2 actually 5172 02:51:40,759 --> 02:51:42,528 sigh what task one and task 2 5173 02:51:42,528 --> 02:51:43,950 psi is. We're going to 5174 02:51:43,950 --> 02:51:45,630 renovate the Mallory Square 5175 02:51:45,630 --> 02:51:46,332 existing back bathroom and 5176 02:51:46,332 --> 02:51:48,768 then we're going to replicate 5177 02:51:48,768 --> 02:51:51,768 that bathroom and it doesn't 5178 02:51:51,870 --> 02:51:55,307 say where so I think what we 5179 02:51:55,307 --> 02:51:57,843 need to do is just say in the 5180 02:51:57,843 --> 02:51:59,712 record, let strikes a phrase 5181 02:51:59,712 --> 02:52:01,147 adjacent to the existing 5182 02:52:01,147 --> 02:52:03,547 facility and the second 5183 02:52:04,500 --> 02:52:06,185 paragraph of the resolution 5184 02:52:06,185 --> 02:52:08,221 and then they both lineup and 5185 02:52:08,221 --> 02:52:09,222 the determination about where 5186 02:52:09,222 --> 02:52:10,560 the 2nd half will be will be 5187 02:52:10,560 --> 02:52:12,492 part of the design process. Is 5188 02:52:12,492 --> 02:52:15,161 that your authorizing? Is that 5189 02:52:15,161 --> 02:52:17,561 to you? Commissioner Haskell. 5190 02:52:17,663 --> 02:52:18,965 Yes, that's perfect. Thank so 5191 02:52:18,965 --> 02:52:21,333 much. So remind you, MADAM 5192 02:52:21,333 --> 02:52:21,968 Clerk, I think we had a motion 5193 02:52:21,968 --> 02:52:23,703 and a second. Yes. So who have 5194 02:52:23,703 --> 02:52:26,703 made the motion? Well, I 5195 02:52:27,440 --> 02:52:28,410 thought that was withdrawn. 5196 02:52:28,410 --> 02:52:29,242 Was the motion withdrawn? Did 5197 02:52:29,242 --> 02:52:30,276 you know it was everyone 5198 02:52:30,276 --> 02:52:33,276 agreed. The motion with was 5199 02:52:33,813 --> 02:52:34,470 withdrawn, but I make the move 5200 02:52:34,470 --> 02:52:34,947 on, ok? 5201 02:52:34,947 --> 02:52:36,947 >> Commissioner Haskell's if 5202 02:52:38,685 --> 02:52:39,653 she's and decide district your 5203 02:52:39,653 --> 02:52:40,253 proof. 5204 02:52:40,253 --> 02:52:42,622 >> I would approve resolution 5205 02:52:42,622 --> 02:52:43,189 as amended. Okay. 5206 02:52:43,189 --> 02:52:46,126 >> Move approval, ok? So we 5207 02:52:46,126 --> 02:52:46,660 have a motion as amended by 5208 02:52:46,660 --> 02:52:48,660 Commissioner Castillo. Is 5209 02:52:50,300 --> 02:52:50,597 there a second second? We have 5210 02:52:50,597 --> 02:52:52,299 Commissioner Carey seconds. 5211 02:52:52,299 --> 02:52:53,133 Can we call the roll? MADAM 5212 02:52:53,133 --> 02:52:55,133 Clerk, please, Commissioner 5213 02:52:55,902 --> 02:52:57,370 Commissioner Casteel. Yes, 5214 02:52:57,370 --> 02:52:57,871 commissioner has well, yes, 5215 02:52:57,871 --> 02:52:58,938 mission early. Commissioner 5216 02:52:58,938 --> 02:53:00,974 mascot. Yes. Commissioner Ross 5217 02:53:00,974 --> 02:53:03,843 Sea. Yes aircraft. Yes. Okay. 5218 02:53:03,843 --> 02:53:06,843 Motion passes. That leads us 5219 02:53:09,349 --> 02:53:10,384 to our next discussion item. 5220 02:53:10,384 --> 02:53:13,384 Which is item number. 43 city 5221 02:53:14,220 --> 02:53:14,622 attorney contract status. 5222 02:53:14,622 --> 02:53:15,189 Commissioner Rossi, would you 5223 02:53:15,189 --> 02:53:18,359 like to start off the cover 5224 02:53:18,359 --> 02:53:18,893 saying Yes, I brought that up. 5225 02:53:18,893 --> 02:53:21,795 We definitely need the an 5226 02:53:21,795 --> 02:53:24,980 in-house attorney here. But my 5227 02:53:24,980 --> 02:53:26,801 what pledging is here, too. 5228 02:53:26,801 --> 02:53:29,503 Each one of gets a 5229 02:53:29,503 --> 02:53:31,903 representative to represent us 5230 02:53:32,907 --> 02:53:33,808 and start Putin out. Ideas are 5231 02:53:33,808 --> 02:53:38,379 how do you say to push for a 5232 02:53:38,379 --> 02:53:41,379 city attorney? It's, you know, 5233 02:53:42,350 --> 02:53:43,117 we need to have one in Dallas. 5234 02:53:43,117 --> 02:53:46,117 No disrespect, but that's my 5235 02:53:46,354 --> 02:53:46,987 my thing. I I ran on it. I 5236 02:53:46,987 --> 02:53:49,457 want it in House attorney here 5237 02:53:49,457 --> 02:53:52,627 that we can go to I think we 5238 02:53:52,627 --> 02:53:54,462 need to set a salary. I think 5239 02:53:54,462 --> 02:53:55,630 we need to put, you know, put 5240 02:53:55,630 --> 02:53:55,730 her feet down. And then each 5241 02:53:55,730 --> 02:53:57,399 one of the skin and the 5242 02:53:57,399 --> 02:53:59,799 representative and find city 5243 02:54:02,837 --> 02:54:03,438 attorney here. Good. Thank 5244 02:54:03,438 --> 02:54:04,710 you, Commissioner. Rusty. Any 5245 02:54:04,710 --> 02:54:06,308 other commissioners want to be 5246 02:54:06,308 --> 02:54:09,908 heard? Vice Mayor Lee and then 5247 02:54:10,440 --> 02:54:12,313 the steps. Correct me if I'm 5248 02:54:12,313 --> 02:54:14,313 wrong. But 5249 02:54:16,384 --> 02:54:16,685 >> didn't we leave the? 5250 02:54:16,685 --> 02:54:18,685 >> Search? 5251 02:54:19,821 --> 02:54:22,821 >> Committee that we had. For 5252 02:54:23,292 --> 02:54:24,426 city attorney in place. We 5253 02:54:24,426 --> 02:54:26,161 didn't We didn't sunset that 5254 02:54:26,161 --> 02:54:29,161 border anything. Is it that 5255 02:54:32,670 --> 02:54:33,234 left that in place? 5256 02:54:33,234 --> 02:54:34,536 >> I I don't believe that 5257 02:54:34,536 --> 02:54:35,370 search committee was and did. 5258 02:54:35,370 --> 02:54:36,471 I think it's up to the 5259 02:54:36,471 --> 02:54:39,408 commission how it wants to 5260 02:54:39,408 --> 02:54:42,408 proceed. But justice to be 5261 02:54:43,445 --> 02:54:44,746 clear. And for the record when 5262 02:54:44,746 --> 02:54:48,500 I came into my contract was 5263 02:54:48,500 --> 02:54:49,985 signed in OCTOBER of last year 5264 02:54:49,985 --> 02:54:51,953 and it became effective in 5265 02:54:51,953 --> 02:54:54,953 NOVEMBER. Our thought was our 5266 02:54:56,920 --> 02:54:56,692 I think all of us were hoping 5267 02:54:56,692 --> 02:54:59,195 that I would be replaced. And 5268 02:54:59,195 --> 02:55:00,296 I agree with Commissioner 5269 02:55:00,296 --> 02:55:02,310 Rossi and I think commissioner 5270 02:55:02,310 --> 02:55:03,299 cough and I think everybody 5271 02:55:03,299 --> 02:55:05,680 thinks it would better, of 5272 02:55:05,680 --> 02:55:08,680 course, to have an in-house, 5273 02:55:10,106 --> 02:55:10,740 lawyer from here. The reason I 5274 02:55:10,740 --> 02:55:14,410 was honored to do this and was 5275 02:55:14,410 --> 02:55:14,876 willing to do it. Because 5276 02:55:14,876 --> 02:55:15,477 coming back and forth 5277 02:55:15,477 --> 02:55:17,877 sometimes is hard. Yesterday 5278 02:55:19,820 --> 02:55:19,649 was particularly hard is 5279 02:55:19,649 --> 02:55:21,751 because everybody seemed to 5280 02:55:21,751 --> 02:55:23,860 feel we need a period of 5281 02:55:23,860 --> 02:55:26,686 stability so that you get the 5282 02:55:28,157 --> 02:55:28,691 caliber of city attorney and 5283 02:55:28,691 --> 02:55:31,270 and and everyone could be 5284 02:55:31,270 --> 02:55:32,962 comfortable with that. We 5285 02:55:32,962 --> 02:55:35,962 envision that would take about 5286 02:55:36,800 --> 02:55:38,340 a year, but there has been one 5287 02:55:38,340 --> 02:55:41,634 development and I do want to 5288 02:55:41,771 --> 02:55:43,373 address that happily MISS 5289 02:55:43,373 --> 02:55:43,973 Hardin, who is a great 5290 02:55:43,973 --> 02:55:47,343 resource for the city a very 5291 02:55:47,343 --> 02:55:48,544 hardworking and smart lawyer 5292 02:55:48,544 --> 02:55:52,144 is going to be out NOVEMBER 5293 02:55:52,915 --> 02:55:53,817 DECEMBER and JANUARY and so 5294 02:55:53,817 --> 02:55:56,686 subject to the will of this 5295 02:55:56,686 --> 02:55:59,860 commission, of course, I'm 5296 02:55:59,256 --> 02:56:02,856 very happy to continue. To be 5297 02:56:03,861 --> 02:56:06,296 sure we have stable services 5298 02:56:06,296 --> 02:56:07,330 to everybody. I would plan to 5299 02:56:07,330 --> 02:56:08,165 be down here probably about a 5300 02:56:08,165 --> 02:56:11,340 week each month rather than 5301 02:56:11,340 --> 02:56:12,402 just coming down as I do. And 5302 02:56:12,402 --> 02:56:14,802 I'm always available every 5303 02:56:14,905 --> 02:56:15,873 single day. 24 hours a day. If 5304 02:56:15,873 --> 02:56:19,176 you need me at 02:00am. As I 5305 02:56:19,176 --> 02:56:20,143 told c you have to call me 2 5306 02:56:20,143 --> 02:56:23,781 or 3 times to wake me up. But 5307 02:56:23,781 --> 02:56:24,614 I will answer eventually. So 5308 02:56:24,614 --> 02:56:27,140 my suggestion is whatever 5309 02:56:27,551 --> 02:56:30,551 process you use, the idea 5310 02:56:31,722 --> 02:56:32,290 would be that will go through 5311 02:56:32,290 --> 02:56:34,692 with my contract. If you're 5312 02:56:34,692 --> 02:56:36,393 comfortable with that through 5313 02:56:36,393 --> 02:56:38,793 NOVEMBER DECEMBER and JANUARY, 5314 02:56:39,163 --> 02:56:40,431 can't MISS Hardin back. You 5315 02:56:40,431 --> 02:56:41,765 are call. We've got a new 5316 02:56:41,765 --> 02:56:44,165 lawyer starting. We're very 5317 02:56:45,470 --> 02:56:46,771 happy about that. And we have 5318 02:56:46,771 --> 02:56:49,771 Brian you're getting your your 5319 02:56:50,874 --> 02:56:51,442 team back to put together. But 5320 02:56:51,442 --> 02:56:54,442 whether and how you proceed 5321 02:56:54,946 --> 02:56:56,147 with the process is is up to 5322 02:56:56,147 --> 02:56:57,782 this commission. But I just 5323 02:56:57,782 --> 02:56:59,951 want you to know as long as 5324 02:56:59,951 --> 02:57:00,752 you're comfortable. I really 5325 02:57:00,752 --> 02:57:02,870 would like to maintain the 5326 02:57:02,870 --> 02:57:03,530 stability in services of the 5327 02:57:03,530 --> 02:57:06,653 office during the time that Ms 5328 02:57:09,728 --> 02:57:10,295 Harness all. Commissioner 5329 02:57:10,295 --> 02:57:12,295 Haskell. 5330 02:57:13,131 --> 02:57:13,732 >> couple questions. I think. 5331 02:57:13,732 --> 02:57:16,732 >> Man and I'm certainly have 5332 02:57:17,350 --> 02:57:18,170 enjoyed working with you. I 5333 02:57:18,170 --> 02:57:20,570 think your contract, doesn't 5334 02:57:24,743 --> 02:57:25,743 it say it's up to 18 months? 5335 02:57:25,743 --> 02:57:28,143 Actually, it's 30 day net 5336 02:57:30,150 --> 02:57:31,983 notice either way, which could 5337 02:57:31,983 --> 02:57:34,253 be 30 minutes we needed it to 5338 02:57:34,253 --> 02:57:35,420 be. And it did say we envision 5339 02:57:35,420 --> 02:57:38,390 that this contract would be 5340 02:57:38,390 --> 02:57:40,326 approximately a year just one 5341 02:57:40,326 --> 02:57:42,261 year. With that was that was 5342 02:57:42,261 --> 02:57:43,361 our. That was our hope. That 5343 02:57:43,361 --> 02:57:46,361 was our I thought. And 5344 02:57:47,999 --> 02:57:49,340 actually, I think the existing 5345 02:57:49,340 --> 02:57:49,969 investigations that were going 5346 02:57:49,969 --> 02:57:51,300 on took a little longer than 5347 02:57:51,300 --> 02:57:52,738 everybody thought. We thought 5348 02:57:52,738 --> 02:57:55,307 there would be a little more 5349 02:57:55,307 --> 02:57:55,574 overall stability. 5350 02:57:55,574 --> 02:57:56,208 >> In the 5351 02:57:56,208 --> 02:57:58,577 >> legal community, then maybe 5352 02:57:58,577 --> 02:58:00,577 there is. 5353 02:58:00,980 --> 02:58:03,980 >> And my second question to 5354 02:58:05,484 --> 02:58:06,285 says the city manager. 5355 02:58:06,285 --> 02:58:06,886 >> Is the. 5356 02:58:06,886 --> 02:58:09,286 >> Job openings still posted 5357 02:58:09,455 --> 02:58:12,157 on the city website or did 5358 02:58:12,157 --> 02:58:14,557 close that down temporarily 5359 02:58:16,216 --> 02:58:17,630 MR. Mayor commissioner, how 5360 02:58:17,630 --> 02:58:19,463 school city manager's. That's 5361 02:58:19,699 --> 02:58:20,833 not in our purview that was 5362 02:58:20,833 --> 02:58:22,340 but we we don't we don't 5363 02:58:22,340 --> 02:58:22,769 That's one of the things I 5364 02:58:22,769 --> 02:58:24,836 think you'd want to do. You 5365 02:58:24,836 --> 02:58:26,720 would find develop an up to 5366 02:58:26,720 --> 02:58:26,706 date. 5367 02:58:26,706 --> 02:58:28,207 >> Job description you want to 5368 02:58:28,207 --> 02:58:31,207 pin and the Florida Bar 5369 02:58:31,677 --> 02:58:32,311 Journal, you want to assure 5370 02:58:32,311 --> 02:58:33,847 the Florida Municipal attorney 5371 02:58:33,847 --> 02:58:35,847 associations, all those 5372 02:58:35,949 --> 02:58:37,883 groups, not just here in Key 5373 02:58:37,883 --> 02:58:38,852 West, but also around the 5374 02:58:38,852 --> 02:58:39,386 state. Actually around the 5375 02:58:39,386 --> 02:58:40,919 nation as long as they're 5376 02:58:40,919 --> 02:58:41,855 members of the Florida bar. 5377 02:58:41,855 --> 02:58:45,692 You want to be sure you have 5378 02:58:45,692 --> 02:58:46,326 plenty of time. Our experience 5379 02:58:46,326 --> 02:58:49,926 with higher and Jacob, by the 5380 02:58:52,899 --> 02:58:55,902 way, was it took us. 8 months. 5381 02:58:55,902 --> 02:58:56,570 It's, you know, because 5382 02:58:56,570 --> 02:58:59,570 someone if it's not someone 5383 02:59:00,173 --> 02:59:01,341 from here, someone has to move 5384 02:59:01,341 --> 02:59:04,111 year. And that's, you know, 5385 02:59:04,111 --> 02:59:04,677 that's that's quite an 5386 02:59:04,677 --> 02:59:06,460 undertaking. Yeah, you were 5387 02:59:06,460 --> 02:59:08,182 you would want to make it 5388 02:59:08,182 --> 02:59:08,815 generally available and that 5389 02:59:08,815 --> 02:59:11,815 the information out there's as 5390 02:59:11,985 --> 02:59:15,321 soon as you possibly can. C as 5391 02:59:15,321 --> 02:59:15,923 you are an attorney, versed. 5392 02:59:15,923 --> 02:59:18,923 Everything he said is exactly 5393 02:59:19,193 --> 02:59:20,794 right. 5394 02:59:20,794 --> 02:59:21,629 >> Foxx says, guys, these and 5395 02:59:21,629 --> 02:59:24,164 gentlemen here, we need to get 5396 02:59:24,164 --> 02:59:26,233 this process moving. And 5397 02:59:26,233 --> 02:59:27,968 that's what I brought this 5398 02:59:27,968 --> 02:59:30,938 discussion on. He's let's get 5399 02:59:30,938 --> 02:59:31,538 out there and find a city 5400 02:59:31,538 --> 02:59:33,538 attorney doesn't necessarily 5401 02:59:33,941 --> 02:59:35,642 have to be from Key West who 5402 02:59:35,642 --> 02:59:38,345 would help. But I think that 5403 02:59:38,345 --> 02:59:40,348 are ties the Florida bar and 5404 02:59:40,348 --> 02:59:42,216 nationwide. And let's see 5405 02:59:42,216 --> 02:59:42,817 what's out there. And I'm 5406 02:59:42,817 --> 02:59:44,986 proposing each one of us as a 5407 02:59:44,986 --> 02:59:45,486 representative to represent us 5408 02:59:45,486 --> 02:59:48,956 and get this done put a 5409 02:59:48,956 --> 02:59:49,923 timeframe on it. 2 months, 3 5410 02:59:49,923 --> 02:59:52,323 months, she's already been 5411 02:59:53,428 --> 02:59:54,896 here a year almost. We're 5412 02:59:54,896 --> 02:59:55,863 sitting on our hands and just 5413 02:59:55,863 --> 02:59:58,733 being lot we need to do this. 5414 02:59:58,733 --> 03:00:00,733 Please. Commissioner has 5415 03:00:02,871 --> 03:00:03,338 school and then come in. 5416 03:00:03,338 --> 03:00:04,238 >> see it. So are you 5417 03:00:04,238 --> 03:00:06,638 proposing forming a search 5418 03:00:11,412 --> 03:00:12,380 committee? Okay. Thank you. So 5419 03:00:12,380 --> 03:00:14,148 do we need to take action in 5420 03:00:14,148 --> 03:00:16,148 order to post? 5421 03:00:16,585 --> 03:00:19,554 >> The job they could Would 5422 03:00:19,554 --> 03:00:20,789 you be ok with posting the job 5423 03:00:20,789 --> 03:00:22,223 and then forming the committee 5424 03:00:22,223 --> 03:00:25,661 or do you want the committee 5425 03:00:25,661 --> 03:00:26,940 to opine know what to do? 5426 03:00:26,940 --> 03:00:26,661 Uniform committee? 5427 03:00:26,661 --> 03:00:29,661 >> advertise in all the bar 5428 03:00:29,697 --> 03:00:32,970 generals and everything we 5429 03:00:33,702 --> 03:00:34,236 checked and then we go through 5430 03:00:34,236 --> 03:00:36,370 the applicants find which 5431 03:00:36,370 --> 03:00:37,573 everyone that choose that are 5432 03:00:37,573 --> 03:00:39,974 are point he chooses. And then 5433 03:00:39,974 --> 03:00:40,475 we go from there that you 5434 03:00:40,475 --> 03:00:43,475 would want to form the 5435 03:00:44,413 --> 03:00:47,413 committee. That's a cent and 5436 03:00:49,184 --> 03:00:51,860 asked that committee to look 5437 03:00:51,860 --> 03:00:51,653 at the job description once 5438 03:00:51,653 --> 03:00:52,254 again, the one that we will 5439 03:00:52,254 --> 03:00:54,823 not only look at the look at 5440 03:00:54,823 --> 03:00:56,792 the job description, but also 5441 03:00:56,792 --> 03:00:58,560 to look at the applicants and 5442 03:00:58,560 --> 03:00:59,428 find out want answers suitable 5443 03:00:59,428 --> 03:01:01,831 that we we need to you know, 5444 03:01:01,831 --> 03:01:02,397 that we would use, but we 5445 03:01:02,397 --> 03:01:04,797 wouldn't have the applicant 5446 03:01:06,455 --> 03:01:06,632 until we post the justice 5447 03:01:06,632 --> 03:01:09,372 corruption. So step. So asking 5448 03:01:09,372 --> 03:01:09,972 the committee the look at the 5449 03:01:09,972 --> 03:01:13,572 job description for so post a 5450 03:01:15,545 --> 03:01:17,280 job. Great, ok, that sounds 5451 03:01:17,280 --> 03:01:17,847 like if you're going to be 5452 03:01:17,847 --> 03:01:19,382 sponsoring a resolution us 5453 03:01:19,382 --> 03:01:21,183 closer to effect the most 5454 03:01:21,183 --> 03:01:21,818 important thing. This one of 5455 03:01:21,818 --> 03:01:22,985 the most important things here 5456 03:01:22,985 --> 03:01:25,555 from the city that we have and 5457 03:01:25,555 --> 03:01:29,155 you're doing a great job. And 5458 03:01:29,325 --> 03:01:29,859 Kendall you know, I just 5459 03:01:29,859 --> 03:01:30,460 respect you so much that 5460 03:01:30,460 --> 03:01:33,896 you're going to be out of the 5461 03:01:33,896 --> 03:01:34,864 office for a little while. 5462 03:01:34,864 --> 03:01:36,320 >> Maybe times change. I did 5463 03:01:36,320 --> 03:01:38,000 go and ask handle it. She did 5464 03:01:38,000 --> 03:01:38,935 want to position. So everybody 5465 03:01:38,935 --> 03:01:42,339 knows here and now we had a 5466 03:01:42,339 --> 03:01:43,173 good chat. But her, you know, 5467 03:01:43,173 --> 03:01:43,740 her personal life is what 5468 03:01:43,740 --> 03:01:46,676 she's got to take care of. 5469 03:01:46,676 --> 03:01:49,676 First. And I'm simply asking 5470 03:01:50,580 --> 03:01:53,450 the dice here to get Movin. 5471 03:01:53,450 --> 03:01:54,170 And please, let's get 5472 03:01:54,170 --> 03:01:54,618 attorney. Thank you. I just 5473 03:01:54,618 --> 03:01:56,519 want to say a couple things. 5474 03:01:56,519 --> 03:02:00,119 And Vice Mayor Lee your turn. 5475 03:02:00,357 --> 03:02:00,958 >> I want to do just say thank 5476 03:02:00,958 --> 03:02:01,558 you, Commissioner Rossi, for 5477 03:02:01,558 --> 03:02:03,627 bringing this forward. I can 5478 03:02:03,627 --> 03:02:05,762 agree with you enough about 5479 03:02:05,762 --> 03:02:06,897 moving forward on this. 5480 03:02:06,897 --> 03:02:09,766 However, I would caution us 5481 03:02:09,766 --> 03:02:11,000 from having a screening 5482 03:02:11,000 --> 03:02:12,836 committee. Remember, we have 3 5483 03:02:12,836 --> 03:02:13,470 grand jury reports already 5484 03:02:13,470 --> 03:02:16,470 that we've that we've received 5485 03:02:17,307 --> 03:02:18,641 is a city perceptions or 5486 03:02:18,641 --> 03:02:19,610 actual conflicts of interest 5487 03:02:19,610 --> 03:02:22,610 are real, especially in a 5488 03:02:23,313 --> 03:02:24,515 small legal community. If 5489 03:02:24,515 --> 03:02:25,382 we're appointing a turn, local 5490 03:02:25,382 --> 03:02:26,517 attorneys, which is 5491 03:02:26,517 --> 03:02:27,840 historically the case from 5492 03:02:27,840 --> 03:02:28,585 committees, we have to very 5493 03:02:28,585 --> 03:02:30,754 cautious about that. The 5494 03:02:30,754 --> 03:02:32,556 public will be watching us. 5495 03:02:32,556 --> 03:02:36,270 And so I would suggest that we 5496 03:02:36,270 --> 03:02:36,827 are the screening committee, 5497 03:02:36,827 --> 03:02:37,428 our obligation as 5498 03:02:37,428 --> 03:02:39,796 commissioners and mayor is to 5499 03:02:39,796 --> 03:02:42,196 hire 3 people. Very specific 5500 03:02:43,400 --> 03:02:45,436 in our charter. We hired the 5501 03:02:45,436 --> 03:02:46,370 city attorney. We should not 5502 03:02:46,370 --> 03:02:48,372 delegate that to anyone else. 5503 03:02:48,372 --> 03:02:49,507 We should do that ourselves. 5504 03:02:49,507 --> 03:02:50,875 We should do the vetting. We 5505 03:02:50,875 --> 03:02:51,542 should do the screening. We 5506 03:02:51,542 --> 03:02:52,610 should do the interviewing and 5507 03:02:52,610 --> 03:02:53,211 we should do that job. That's 5508 03:02:53,211 --> 03:02:56,211 my position. Respect the will 5509 03:02:57,382 --> 03:02:58,950 of the Dyess but especially in 5510 03:02:58,950 --> 03:02:59,583 this time in light of the 5511 03:02:59,583 --> 03:03:01,186 grand jury reports, I think we 5512 03:03:01,186 --> 03:03:03,421 should be extremely cautious 5513 03:03:03,421 --> 03:03:03,988 about how we proceed in this. 5514 03:03:03,988 --> 03:03:05,190 We don't make that decision 5515 03:03:05,190 --> 03:03:06,224 today. Let's all think about 5516 03:03:06,224 --> 03:03:08,259 it. And then when you bring a 5517 03:03:08,259 --> 03:03:10,996 resolution, we can go forward. 5518 03:03:10,996 --> 03:03:12,130 But my recommendation is just 5519 03:03:12,130 --> 03:03:13,798 let's have our hr director 5520 03:03:13,798 --> 03:03:16,198 review the job description. 5521 03:03:16,534 --> 03:03:17,369 Come back with recommendations 5522 03:03:17,369 --> 03:03:19,938 from all of us looking at it 5523 03:03:19,938 --> 03:03:22,938 with our hr department and 5524 03:03:23,674 --> 03:03:25,110 then put it out for for 5525 03:03:25,110 --> 03:03:26,478 applications. And let's hope 5526 03:03:26,478 --> 03:03:26,978 we get some good applicants so 5527 03:03:26,978 --> 03:03:28,713 we can do the interview 5528 03:03:28,713 --> 03:03:29,313 ourselves. That would be like 5529 03:03:29,313 --> 03:03:31,713 my preference commissioner of 5530 03:03:32,150 --> 03:03:33,152 base. Merely your turn. I was 5531 03:03:33,152 --> 03:03:33,684 just going to ask about the 5532 03:03:33,684 --> 03:03:35,684 screening committee that 5533 03:03:35,821 --> 03:03:38,221 iPhone. We still had. 5534 03:03:45,263 --> 03:03:45,763 >> In place. Either way. I. I 5535 03:03:45,763 --> 03:03:46,265 could go with doing it 5536 03:03:46,265 --> 03:03:47,866 ourselves or screening 5537 03:03:47,866 --> 03:03:49,201 committee, whatever it is. The 5538 03:03:49,201 --> 03:03:49,768 pleasure. The commission, I 5539 03:03:49,768 --> 03:03:52,768 just don't know, you know, 5540 03:03:55,173 --> 03:03:55,774 trying Figure out about. The 5541 03:03:55,774 --> 03:03:57,276 existing. We have to go back 5542 03:03:57,276 --> 03:03:57,810 and look at the resolution. We 5543 03:03:57,810 --> 03:03:59,810 establish that screening 5544 03:04:00,179 --> 03:04:00,779 committee. I guess does it 5545 03:04:00,779 --> 03:04:04,979 have the sun said, do we, you 5546 03:04:05,217 --> 03:04:06,619 know, do? Do we just a point 5547 03:04:06,619 --> 03:04:09,288 new people or keep the people 5548 03:04:09,288 --> 03:04:09,789 we had? What is the process 5549 03:04:09,789 --> 03:04:10,723 was a formality of the 5550 03:04:10,723 --> 03:04:12,124 existing screening committee 5551 03:04:12,124 --> 03:04:15,728 that we have in place now at 5552 03:04:15,728 --> 03:04:16,295 least I 5553 03:04:16,295 --> 03:04:17,863 >> That might be a question 5554 03:04:17,863 --> 03:04:18,497 for the clerk or a clerk to go 5555 03:04:18,497 --> 03:04:19,640 back and look at it and 5556 03:04:19,640 --> 03:04:21,464 provide that information to 5557 03:04:22,534 --> 03:04:23,669 us. But regardless, I think 5558 03:04:23,669 --> 03:04:25,805 this is a good discussion. I 5559 03:04:25,805 --> 03:04:26,405 think we just bring of the 5560 03:04:26,405 --> 03:04:27,907 resolution. And Commissioner 5561 03:04:27,907 --> 03:04:29,609 Ross, if you want to bring a 5562 03:04:29,609 --> 03:04:31,711 resolution at the at the 5563 03:04:31,711 --> 03:04:32,745 OCTOBER one meeting, most I 5564 03:04:32,745 --> 03:04:33,513 actually was sitting about 5565 03:04:33,513 --> 03:04:36,783 bringing him on the 22nd. To 5566 03:04:36,783 --> 03:04:38,884 be honest with as we are 5567 03:04:38,884 --> 03:04:41,884 >> Session And that's what I'm 5568 03:04:42,422 --> 03:04:43,220 thinking. Very few can find 5569 03:04:43,220 --> 03:04:43,623 all that information out and 5570 03:04:43,623 --> 03:04:44,991 give it to us. That would be 5571 03:04:44,991 --> 03:04:47,391 very appreciative of that. 5572 03:04:51,831 --> 03:04:52,799 Thank you the committee did 5573 03:04:52,799 --> 03:04:53,400 come forward with the 5574 03:04:53,400 --> 03:04:56,169 recommendation and it was to 5575 03:04:56,169 --> 03:04:57,403 and downs. So I don't we 5576 03:04:57,403 --> 03:04:59,172 typically don't sunset those 5577 03:04:59,172 --> 03:04:59,906 if they come for, if they do 5578 03:04:59,906 --> 03:05:00,440 come forward with the 5579 03:05:00,440 --> 03:05:02,440 recommendation. But I'll 5580 03:05:03,760 --> 03:05:03,777 certainly look at all 5581 03:05:03,777 --> 03:05:06,813 founding. A look at the video 5582 03:05:06,813 --> 03:05:08,348 because you have 2 new. He has 5583 03:05:08,348 --> 03:05:09,282 2 commissioners here on the 5584 03:05:09,282 --> 03:05:12,385 board. I knew that I want 5585 03:05:12,385 --> 03:05:15,756 someone the eye and could be 5586 03:05:15,756 --> 03:05:17,724 in sure Krista's. Monica. 5587 03:05:17,724 --> 03:05:18,792 You're going to be here for a 5588 03:05:18,792 --> 03:05:21,228 little law. Donnie, you know 5589 03:05:21,228 --> 03:05:23,430 about that as well as I do. 5590 03:05:23,430 --> 03:05:26,233 Undertaker Buddy Year. He's a 5591 03:05:26,233 --> 03:05:27,330 he's with do so, yeah, let's 5592 03:05:27,330 --> 03:05:30,633 do this to 22nd, please. The 5593 03:05:31,672 --> 03:05:32,272 sooner the better great. So 5594 03:05:32,272 --> 03:05:33,974 we'll we'll we'll have. We'll 5595 03:05:33,974 --> 03:05:35,408 expect a resolution at the 5596 03:05:35,408 --> 03:05:38,279 22nd of budget final meeting. 5597 03:05:38,279 --> 03:05:38,879 Okay. I think we've cover that 5598 03:05:38,879 --> 03:05:41,815 much someone else that wants 5599 03:05:41,815 --> 03:05:42,416 to say something. 5600 03:05:42,416 --> 03:05:43,851 >> Well, I was just going say 5601 03:05:43,851 --> 03:05:46,251 that the actually the 5602 03:05:47,154 --> 03:05:49,154 resolution Commissioner Casco 5603 03:05:51,920 --> 03:05:52,125 the resolution from the 5604 03:05:52,125 --> 03:05:52,693 screening committee 5605 03:05:52,693 --> 03:05:55,693 recommended that I be hired 5606 03:05:58,990 --> 03:05:59,433 for 18 months to allow 5607 03:05:59,433 --> 03:06:00,234 stability. And we're making it 5608 03:06:00,234 --> 03:06:01,269 a So that's where the 18 5609 03:06:01,269 --> 03:06:04,720 months came from. My contract 5610 03:06:04,720 --> 03:06:07,720 doesn't actually say that it's 5611 03:06:07,976 --> 03:06:09,911 actually 30 days, but neither 5612 03:06:09,911 --> 03:06:10,478 the 2023 nor the 2025 5613 03:06:10,478 --> 03:06:12,878 resolutions that put green 5614 03:06:13,815 --> 03:06:16,251 committees in place sunset the 5615 03:06:16,251 --> 03:06:19,851 committee. I think you can say 5616 03:06:20,121 --> 03:06:20,688 implicitly when they finish 5617 03:06:20,688 --> 03:06:21,957 their work, maybe that's a 5618 03:06:21,957 --> 03:06:22,523 into of the committee. But any 5619 03:06:22,523 --> 03:06:24,923 event that committee makeup 5620 03:06:26,895 --> 03:06:27,762 would no longer represent 5621 03:06:27,762 --> 03:06:28,296 representatives from, you 5622 03:06:28,296 --> 03:06:30,832 know, each one, we have a 5623 03:06:30,832 --> 03:06:33,232 different makeup of the 5624 03:06:33,735 --> 03:06:34,302 commission right? Yes, that on 5625 03:06:34,302 --> 03:06:34,870 to that. 5626 03:06:34,870 --> 03:06:36,870 >> You're correct. Probably 5627 03:06:38,573 --> 03:06:39,740 will need you. It's started in 5628 03:06:39,740 --> 03:06:41,474 OCTOBER of last year's 5629 03:06:44,913 --> 03:06:46,181 occurred. Icon try one, sir. 5630 03:06:46,181 --> 03:06:49,251 We get a screening or power, 5631 03:06:49,251 --> 03:06:51,920 we choose to do it year, 3 5632 03:06:51,920 --> 03:06:52,521 months, at least 4 months. 5633 03:06:52,521 --> 03:06:55,257 Okay. And then we have a new 5634 03:06:55,257 --> 03:06:57,893 commissioner on board you know 5635 03:06:57,893 --> 03:06:59,127 that they can be in it too. 5636 03:06:59,127 --> 03:07:01,230 And there you are 100% 5637 03:07:01,230 --> 03:07:03,230 correctly higher. 3 people. 5638 03:07:04,200 --> 03:07:04,966 And as city manager, the city 5639 03:07:04,966 --> 03:07:07,966 attorney, carry over here and 5640 03:07:08,771 --> 03:07:10,605 the clerk of new the well, 5641 03:07:10,605 --> 03:07:12,708 know that bin that over the 5642 03:07:12,708 --> 03:07:13,309 years. So I just asked for 5643 03:07:13,309 --> 03:07:15,311 let's please get this moving 5644 03:07:15,311 --> 03:07:18,311 forward and can't. But just 5645 03:07:18,513 --> 03:07:18,981 want to say we have a lot of 5646 03:07:18,981 --> 03:07:20,981 very significant. 5647 03:07:24,220 --> 03:07:24,787 >> Legal work ongoing and we 5648 03:07:24,787 --> 03:07:27,390 need the stability of miss 5649 03:07:27,390 --> 03:07:28,424 downs, especially in light of 5650 03:07:28,424 --> 03:07:29,658 what you know, the 5651 03:07:29,658 --> 03:07:30,159 circumstances. So I a green 5652 03:07:30,159 --> 03:07:32,559 mint with mistress with 5653 03:07:33,462 --> 03:07:34,163 Commissioner Ross on that. 5654 03:07:34,163 --> 03:07:36,990 Okay. Just I'm sorry. Just one 5655 03:07:36,990 --> 03:07:38,499 more point of personal 5656 03:07:39,302 --> 03:07:42,902 privilege. This is a hard job. 5657 03:07:43,173 --> 03:07:44,407 It is a job of great honor. 5658 03:07:44,407 --> 03:07:46,509 And I want to say that the 5659 03:07:46,509 --> 03:07:47,609 people in this building have 5660 03:07:47,609 --> 03:07:49,579 treated me. 5661 03:07:49,579 --> 03:07:51,748 >> So kindly and so 5662 03:07:51,748 --> 03:07:53,550 respectfully. But I just want 5663 03:07:53,550 --> 03:07:55,251 us all to remember that the 5664 03:07:55,251 --> 03:07:58,188 person is sitting in this 5665 03:07:58,188 --> 03:08:00,257 chair as a person who no 5666 03:08:00,257 --> 03:08:03,257 reference to or prior people 5667 03:08:04,930 --> 03:08:04,828 sometimes goes to jail. The 5668 03:08:04,828 --> 03:08:05,462 only people in the state of 5669 03:08:05,462 --> 03:08:08,765 Florida who ever going to jail 5670 03:08:08,765 --> 03:08:11,765 for public records. Our city 5671 03:08:12,469 --> 03:08:13,236 attorneys, it's a hard job and 5672 03:08:13,236 --> 03:08:16,106 the more respect that all of 5673 03:08:16,106 --> 03:08:18,909 you show every member have 5674 03:08:18,909 --> 03:08:20,409 your staff and your public 5675 03:08:20,409 --> 03:08:22,809 officials, the batter caliber 5676 03:08:23,413 --> 03:08:24,814 candidate, you'll get sitting 5677 03:08:24,814 --> 03:08:25,648 here. Easy for me. I've been 5678 03:08:25,648 --> 03:08:29,248 doing this a long time. Few 5679 03:08:30,387 --> 03:08:31,922 fire me today. I'll be okay. 5680 03:08:31,922 --> 03:08:33,223 But that's not true for every 5681 03:08:33,223 --> 03:08:34,691 lawyer who would like this job 5682 03:08:34,691 --> 03:08:36,727 and who would do a good job 5683 03:08:36,727 --> 03:08:37,327 you. So thank you for the 5684 03:08:37,327 --> 03:08:40,327 courtesy you've given me. And 5685 03:08:40,698 --> 03:08:42,466 I hope that will continue. And 5686 03:08:42,466 --> 03:08:45,466 just remember every word we 5687 03:08:46,137 --> 03:08:46,337 stay here. Impacts us all over 5688 03:08:46,337 --> 03:08:47,905 time. 5689 03:08:47,905 --> 03:08:48,505 >> ma'am. I just want to add 5690 03:08:48,505 --> 03:08:52,760 one thing. So what we've had 5691 03:08:52,760 --> 03:08:53,430 here for a year. Hey, Terry, I 5692 03:08:53,430 --> 03:08:56,800 trusted her arm to try to take 5693 03:08:56,800 --> 03:08:57,848 the job, move it from Orlando. 5694 03:08:57,848 --> 03:09:00,500 But she lives Orlando and we 5695 03:09:00,500 --> 03:09:01,819 know a lot of people that 5696 03:09:01,819 --> 03:09:03,854 confiscated city attorney and 5697 03:09:03,854 --> 03:09:04,922 are there you go. Thank you 5698 03:09:04,922 --> 03:09:05,522 very We love you. Thank Okay. 5699 03:09:05,522 --> 03:09:07,925 if we can move on to the next 5700 03:09:07,925 --> 03:09:10,325 slide. Please. Thank you. 5701 03:09:10,928 --> 03:09:11,663 >> The next discussion item is 5702 03:09:11,663 --> 03:09:12,263 discussion and direction 5703 03:09:12,263 --> 03:09:12,896 regarding personnel, staffing 5704 03:09:12,896 --> 03:09:15,296 levels and potential reduction 5705 03:09:17,936 --> 03:09:18,436 in force. MR. City manager. 5706 03:09:18,436 --> 03:09:20,836 MR. Mayor Commission, I 5707 03:09:21,372 --> 03:09:22,106 believe we have a Christina 5708 03:09:22,106 --> 03:09:25,106 Christina could come up and 5709 03:09:25,877 --> 03:09:27,450 give us an overview. 5710 03:09:27,450 --> 03:09:28,179 >> What you were just to bring 5711 03:09:28,179 --> 03:09:30,579 everyone or provide contacts, 5712 03:09:30,849 --> 03:09:31,783 bring everyone to speed and 5713 03:09:31,783 --> 03:09:33,184 provide contacts. 5714 03:09:33,184 --> 03:09:35,387 >> At the initial budget 5715 03:09:35,387 --> 03:09:38,190 meeting, we were instructed to 5716 03:09:38,190 --> 03:09:39,123 go further. So in with that 5717 03:09:39,123 --> 03:09:39,791 leadership, we looked at the 5718 03:09:39,791 --> 03:09:41,727 Key West Fire Department. We 5719 03:09:41,727 --> 03:09:42,794 look at the Key West Police 5720 03:09:42,794 --> 03:09:43,662 Department and then we also 5721 03:09:43,662 --> 03:09:45,662 looked at additional 5722 03:09:46,698 --> 03:09:48,698 opportunities regarding city, 5723 03:09:49,468 --> 03:09:50,702 Steph. So we will present an 5724 03:09:50,702 --> 03:09:51,603 overview, Christina will, and 5725 03:09:51,603 --> 03:09:55,803 then we will do our best to 5726 03:09:56,274 --> 03:09:57,242 answer questions in short care 5727 03:09:57,242 --> 03:09:57,876 and compassion if moving 5728 03:09:57,876 --> 03:10:00,876 forward with impact anybody at 5729 03:10:00,913 --> 03:10:01,513 the city. So we'll do our best 5730 03:10:01,513 --> 03:10:05,713 to do that now. And thank you 5731 03:10:06,919 --> 03:10:07,353 for this opportunity. Good 5732 03:10:07,353 --> 03:10:08,687 morning, mayor and 5733 03:10:08,687 --> 03:10:11,870 commissioners. So on the 5734 03:10:11,489 --> 03:10:12,624 discussion item, I guess is 5735 03:10:12,624 --> 03:10:13,225 in. 5736 03:10:13,225 --> 03:10:14,250 >> Regards to there would be 5737 03:10:14,250 --> 03:10:15,594 an additional 1.6, 5 million 5738 03:10:15,594 --> 03:10:18,594 dollars in savings that could 5739 03:10:20,633 --> 03:10:23,835 be received an order if we 5740 03:10:23,835 --> 03:10:25,838 were to staff reductions. So 5741 03:10:25,838 --> 03:10:27,838 this would encompass 15 5742 03:10:28,173 --> 03:10:29,775 positions across all the funds 5743 03:10:29,775 --> 03:10:32,879 on in the general fund itself, 5744 03:10:32,879 --> 03:10:33,713 it would be around 950,000 and 5745 03:10:33,713 --> 03:10:37,313 all the other funds would be 5746 03:10:37,650 --> 03:10:39,650 around 700,000. Some. The 5747 03:10:40,190 --> 03:10:40,920 budget that will be presented 5748 03:10:40,920 --> 03:10:44,230 next week will be presented at 5749 03:10:44,230 --> 03:10:47,623 a rollback millage. So we have 5750 03:10:47,660 --> 03:10:48,962 already identified additional 5751 03:10:48,962 --> 03:10:50,529 savings and and however, there 5752 03:10:50,529 --> 03:10:51,231 were some revenue reductions 5753 03:10:51,231 --> 03:10:53,233 from the numbers from the 5754 03:10:53,233 --> 03:10:56,833 state came back. Some of them. 5755 03:10:57,770 --> 03:10:59,805 Lower or estimated. I was 5756 03:10:59,805 --> 03:11:01,774 assuming them flat city came 5757 03:11:01,774 --> 03:11:04,110 back reduced. So it's just I 5758 03:11:04,110 --> 03:11:06,412 guess, for direction from you. 5759 03:11:06,412 --> 03:11:07,120 Do you want us to continue 5760 03:11:07,120 --> 03:11:09,716 making cost savings or do we 5761 03:11:09,716 --> 03:11:13,316 want to just come with the 5762 03:11:14,521 --> 03:11:15,188 budget roll back and the 5763 03:11:15,188 --> 03:11:15,789 general Fund. Thank you, 5764 03:11:15,789 --> 03:11:18,189 Christina, before I'm sorry, 5765 03:11:21,795 --> 03:11:22,362 MR. Mayor. Few things. We're 5766 03:11:22,362 --> 03:11:24,362 catching this conversation 5767 03:11:26,400 --> 03:11:26,867 with the premise that. 5768 03:11:26,867 --> 03:11:28,867 >> Although we're not 5769 03:11:29,303 --> 03:11:31,305 obligated or instructed by 5770 03:11:31,305 --> 03:11:33,373 until next year. We this was 5771 03:11:33,373 --> 03:11:34,508 part of an exercise that we 5772 03:11:34,508 --> 03:11:36,143 were required to do or will be 5773 03:11:36,143 --> 03:11:39,743 required to do not just a 5774 03:11:40,130 --> 03:11:40,581 municipality. So we feel very 5775 03:11:40,581 --> 03:11:41,448 comfortable that we have 5776 03:11:41,448 --> 03:11:43,848 executed this process in 5777 03:11:45,352 --> 03:11:47,221 conjunction with you in 5778 03:11:47,221 --> 03:11:48,255 delivering the initial 5779 03:11:48,255 --> 03:11:49,723 rollback minus with those cost 5780 03:11:49,723 --> 03:11:50,323 savings in our adjustment to 5781 03:11:50,323 --> 03:11:50,925 our budget. So I just want to 5782 03:11:50,925 --> 03:11:53,261 make sure that everyone feels 5783 03:11:53,261 --> 03:11:53,861 as much as they can that we 5784 03:11:53,861 --> 03:11:56,861 believe in good faith. We've 5785 03:11:57,598 --> 03:11:58,766 done everything that we can. 5786 03:11:58,766 --> 03:12:01,302 This was to follow up to the 5787 03:12:01,302 --> 03:12:02,704 go further opportunity. What 5788 03:12:02,704 --> 03:12:04,710 makes this unique was and 5789 03:12:04,710 --> 03:12:06,107 we've been asked this, why 5790 03:12:06,107 --> 03:12:08,175 can't we reduce staff through 5791 03:12:08,175 --> 03:12:10,211 attrition? We'd like to 5792 03:12:10,211 --> 03:12:12,800 continue to to point to that. 5793 03:12:12,800 --> 03:12:13,948 That's where the 17 initial 5794 03:12:13,948 --> 03:12:14,615 positions we're a chief was 5795 03:12:14,615 --> 03:12:15,583 through some form or fashion 5796 03:12:15,583 --> 03:12:17,983 of attrition or transition 5797 03:12:19,253 --> 03:12:20,288 that we froze. So we 5798 03:12:20,288 --> 03:12:22,288 accomplished that opportunity. 5799 03:12:22,689 --> 03:12:24,793 This is an important decision 5800 03:12:24,793 --> 03:12:25,827 because this does impact 5801 03:12:25,827 --> 03:12:26,660 individuals that are currently 5802 03:12:26,660 --> 03:12:28,430 in these roles. The 17 there 5803 03:12:28,430 --> 03:12:29,631 were not. They were vacated 5804 03:12:29,631 --> 03:12:32,310 roles. So please understand 5805 03:12:33,301 --> 03:12:33,869 that. If you give us a cursory 5806 03:12:33,869 --> 03:12:34,669 leadership to move forward, 5807 03:12:34,669 --> 03:12:36,638 that means that we are going 5808 03:12:36,638 --> 03:12:38,240 to sit in front of 15 5809 03:12:38,240 --> 03:12:40,107 teammates and have a difficult 5810 03:12:40,107 --> 03:12:42,507 but caring conversation with 5811 03:12:43,145 --> 03:12:44,279 them. And we feel although it 5812 03:12:44,279 --> 03:12:46,679 falls under administrative and 5813 03:12:46,982 --> 03:12:48,750 executive that this is more 5814 03:12:48,750 --> 03:12:49,284 policy driven-in should rest 5815 03:12:49,284 --> 03:12:51,520 with you all, whether we 5816 03:12:51,520 --> 03:12:53,454 continue to move forward. 5817 03:12:53,454 --> 03:12:53,756 Bringing back to the 5818 03:12:53,756 --> 03:12:55,756 commission 5819 03:12:55,757 --> 03:12:57,757 >> clearly. 5820 03:12:59,895 --> 03:13:02,295 >> Of those 15. State. How 5821 03:13:02,431 --> 03:13:06,631 many are in drop or who if 5822 03:13:09,138 --> 03:13:10,239 they're and dropping? That 5823 03:13:10,239 --> 03:13:10,972 effect your decision? If we're 5824 03:13:10,972 --> 03:13:13,972 if you're directed to move 5825 03:13:14,210 --> 03:13:14,810 forward that way, MR. Mayor? 5826 03:13:14,810 --> 03:13:17,810 >> MISTER Vice mayor, it's an 5827 03:13:18,513 --> 03:13:19,582 excellent question. I would. I 5828 03:13:19,582 --> 03:13:21,982 refrain from commenting on 5829 03:13:22,385 --> 03:13:24,785 that particular one other 5830 03:13:25,354 --> 03:13:27,754 through context. Clues today. 5831 03:13:28,324 --> 03:13:29,659 If this doesn't move forward, 5832 03:13:29,659 --> 03:13:30,692 individuals with feel could 5833 03:13:30,692 --> 03:13:32,628 possibly feel that what was at 5834 03:13:32,628 --> 03:13:34,997 me. So I would like to tell 5835 03:13:34,997 --> 03:13:35,665 you that what our team has 5836 03:13:35,665 --> 03:13:37,665 done conjunction with 5837 03:13:38,167 --> 03:13:39,680 directors or human Resource 5838 03:13:39,680 --> 03:13:42,680 Department over a 6 to 8 month 5839 03:13:42,404 --> 03:13:43,600 period of time was to 5840 03:13:43,600 --> 03:13:44,807 carefully consider individual 5841 03:13:44,807 --> 03:13:47,807 roles. I would refrain from 5842 03:13:48,711 --> 03:13:49,646 telling you exactly what they 5843 03:13:49,646 --> 03:13:50,246 are and what they include. 5844 03:13:50,246 --> 03:13:53,583 Because if we're do not tell 5845 03:13:53,583 --> 03:13:54,183 us as a group to move forward 5846 03:13:54,183 --> 03:13:55,852 there be a possible impact to 5847 03:13:55,852 --> 03:13:57,852 that information. Understood. 5848 03:14:00,290 --> 03:14:01,391 I appreciate that. 5849 03:14:01,391 --> 03:14:02,859 Commissioner Castillo not not 5850 03:14:02,859 --> 03:14:05,859 singling out any any position 5851 03:14:05,962 --> 03:14:06,263 because I know these positions 5852 03:14:06,263 --> 03:14:08,263 were open. 5853 03:14:08,497 --> 03:14:11,497 >> not going to be replaced. 5854 03:14:12,636 --> 03:14:16,473 But in the of and I knew. 5855 03:14:16,473 --> 03:14:16,673 Whether it be by. Contractor 5856 03:14:16,673 --> 03:14:18,141 will. 5857 03:14:18,141 --> 03:14:20,141 >> Or 5858 03:14:22,779 --> 03:14:24,381 >> part time. Because one of 5859 03:14:24,381 --> 03:14:27,381 the sick concerns, my district 5860 03:14:28,318 --> 03:14:29,153 that I know that I need 5861 03:14:29,153 --> 03:14:31,889 somebody in the district, but 5862 03:14:31,889 --> 03:14:32,655 it doesn't require full-time 5863 03:14:32,655 --> 03:14:33,490 position, but eliminating the 5864 03:14:33,490 --> 03:14:35,890 position and the city 5865 03:14:35,926 --> 03:14:37,761 government. That's that bid 5866 03:14:37,761 --> 03:14:39,495 the door close. 5867 03:14:39,495 --> 03:14:41,495 >> 4. 5868 03:14:45,836 --> 03:14:46,437 >> Manager. MR. Mayor 5869 03:14:46,437 --> 03:14:47,300 Commissioner Casteel. I would 5870 03:14:47,300 --> 03:14:50,603 answer this at any point in 5871 03:14:51,575 --> 03:14:55,775 time. If we feel that need to 5872 03:14:56,470 --> 03:14:56,580 add additional staff moving 5873 03:14:56,580 --> 03:14:57,214 forward, my understanding 5874 03:14:57,214 --> 03:14:59,283 would be we just could not add 5875 03:14:59,283 --> 03:15:01,850 in the particular role that 5876 03:15:01,850 --> 03:15:01,818 was eliminated that title in 5877 03:15:01,818 --> 03:15:04,589 that job description. So if it 5878 03:15:04,589 --> 03:15:06,958 comes to pass that we believe 5879 03:15:06,958 --> 03:15:08,326 we MAY have impacted area of 5880 03:15:08,326 --> 03:15:10,128 opportunity or service to this 5881 03:15:10,128 --> 03:15:11,940 community that we need to 5882 03:15:11,940 --> 03:15:14,940 backfill. We have the ability 5883 03:15:15,299 --> 03:15:17,235 to do that. So. I believe 5884 03:15:17,235 --> 03:15:17,769 you're asking me whether it's 5885 03:15:17,769 --> 03:15:18,403 part-time or full-time we 5886 03:15:18,403 --> 03:15:21,338 would do with this. Really not 5887 03:15:21,338 --> 03:15:23,674 about him. The job right now. 5888 03:15:23,674 --> 03:15:25,276 >> In the states that it's in, 5889 03:15:25,276 --> 03:15:27,545 it was split. Would city money 5890 03:15:27,545 --> 03:15:30,545 from the department and the 5891 03:15:32,550 --> 03:15:33,151 cra. 5892 03:15:33,151 --> 03:15:33,751 >> MR. Maher Commissioner, at 5893 03:15:33,751 --> 03:15:35,587 a disadvantage. I don't know 5894 03:15:35,587 --> 03:15:37,722 what job you refer to. The cra 5895 03:15:37,722 --> 03:15:40,122 manages position that's fake. 5896 03:15:40,892 --> 03:15:41,526 Right now that that position, 5897 03:15:41,526 --> 03:15:44,295 that role was captured because 5898 03:15:44,295 --> 03:15:47,766 at the time we we aggregated 5899 03:15:47,766 --> 03:15:49,634 the data that position was 5900 03:15:49,634 --> 03:15:50,202 unfilled. That's why you're 5901 03:15:50,202 --> 03:15:50,736 seeing it now. It's not an 5902 03:15:50,736 --> 03:15:52,237 indication of whether we 5903 03:15:52,237 --> 03:15:53,238 believe it's needed or not 5904 03:15:53,238 --> 03:15:55,573 needed. I would tell you one 5905 03:15:55,573 --> 03:15:56,574 record that I believe it is 5906 03:15:56,574 --> 03:15:59,574 needed. We can work together 5907 03:16:00,212 --> 03:16:00,812 to determine offline the 5908 03:16:00,812 --> 03:16:04,412 manner in which he's at full 5909 03:16:05,500 --> 03:16:07,180 time. Is it want hear. Thank 5910 03:16:07,180 --> 03:16:07,618 Commissioner Cusk a season 5911 03:16:07,618 --> 03:16:09,121 commissioner mascot. Yeah. I 5912 03:16:09,121 --> 03:16:11,991 just wanted to make sure that 5913 03:16:11,991 --> 03:16:13,158 we were talking conceptually 5914 03:16:13,158 --> 03:16:15,127 and not about individual jobs 5915 03:16:15,127 --> 03:16:16,796 because that is the role of 5916 03:16:16,796 --> 03:16:17,629 the city manager and the city 5917 03:16:17,629 --> 03:16:19,431 finance director. 5918 03:16:19,431 --> 03:16:20,866 >> To make those 5919 03:16:20,866 --> 03:16:22,866 determinations so they're 5920 03:16:23,736 --> 03:16:26,405 asking us, do we want to go 5921 03:16:26,405 --> 03:16:27,720 further? And another 1.6, 5 5922 03:16:27,720 --> 03:16:30,720 million dollars and say in 5923 03:16:30,175 --> 03:16:30,775 personnel, savings. About 15 5924 03:16:30,775 --> 03:16:33,175 positions that are currently 5925 03:16:34,680 --> 03:16:35,580 filled. You know, we all talk 5926 03:16:35,580 --> 03:16:36,749 about like, oh, we need to run 5927 03:16:36,749 --> 03:16:38,318 government like a business and 5928 03:16:38,318 --> 03:16:41,286 staff at government is not a 5929 03:16:41,286 --> 03:16:41,854 business. We don't have. 5930 03:16:41,854 --> 03:16:42,488 Shareholders or profit and 5931 03:16:42,488 --> 03:16:45,358 loss and we don't have to like 5932 03:16:45,358 --> 03:16:45,958 prove, you know, show a profit 5933 03:16:45,958 --> 03:16:48,227 we need to do is provide good 5934 03:16:48,227 --> 03:16:49,395 service to our residents. And 5935 03:16:49,395 --> 03:16:54,195 I want to make sure that if we 5936 03:16:56,402 --> 03:16:57,270 give direction to staff reduce 5937 03:16:57,270 --> 03:16:59,670 further in we're seeing 5938 03:17:00,339 --> 03:17:00,907 reduced by another 1.6, 5 5939 03:17:00,907 --> 03:17:01,508 million, which I think fire 5940 03:17:01,508 --> 03:17:05,108 coffin was. But you you would 5941 03:17:05,311 --> 03:17:05,879 requested for that percentage 5942 03:17:05,879 --> 03:17:06,513 regarding doge and whatever 5943 03:17:06,513 --> 03:17:07,913 with future because we need to 5944 03:17:07,913 --> 03:17:11,513 deal with this likely in the 5945 03:17:13,180 --> 03:17:16,220 future. And, you know, I don't 5946 03:17:16,220 --> 03:17:18,558 I don't Are we able to say me 5947 03:17:18,558 --> 03:17:19,126 halfway and maybe say, you 5948 03:17:19,126 --> 03:17:19,593 know, half of for now is is 5949 03:17:19,593 --> 03:17:21,328 that something that's 5950 03:17:21,328 --> 03:17:23,328 possible? MR. Maher 5951 03:17:23,630 --> 03:17:24,640 commissioner mascot. 5952 03:17:24,640 --> 03:17:26,640 >> All avenues and 5953 03:17:27,533 --> 03:17:28,168 opportunities are possible. We 5954 03:17:28,168 --> 03:17:30,370 have the ability now what that 5955 03:17:30,370 --> 03:17:31,771 would require candidly would 5956 03:17:31,771 --> 03:17:32,372 be for our team to reconvene 5957 03:17:32,372 --> 03:17:35,972 because now it feels more of 5958 03:17:36,510 --> 03:17:37,243 a. Selection process like 5959 03:17:37,243 --> 03:17:40,243 which one of the original 15 5960 03:17:41,140 --> 03:17:42,160 as opposed to it was a lot of 5961 03:17:42,160 --> 03:17:44,416 iterations that landed on 5962 03:17:44,585 --> 03:17:45,518 15th. So in all and we do 5963 03:17:45,518 --> 03:17:48,518 that, absolutely. I would tell 5964 03:17:49,722 --> 03:17:51,826 you that what our fear 5965 03:17:51,826 --> 03:17:54,226 unfairly, what our opportunity 5966 03:17:54,762 --> 03:17:55,729 in the future is is we need to 5967 03:17:55,729 --> 03:17:57,497 land this plane by the 10th. 5968 03:17:57,497 --> 03:17:58,320 Or at least have some 5969 03:17:58,320 --> 03:17:58,566 indication of what that's 5970 03:17:58,566 --> 03:17:59,200 going to feel because it 5971 03:17:59,200 --> 03:18:00,167 wouldn't be fair to you all to 5972 03:18:00,167 --> 03:18:01,402 give you something on the 5973 03:18:01,402 --> 03:18:01,936 10th. That is not indicative 5974 03:18:01,936 --> 03:18:03,937 of what we're going to be 5975 03:18:03,937 --> 03:18:06,741 doing long-term. So. Can we 5976 03:18:06,741 --> 03:18:10,341 get it done? Yes, I'm not 5977 03:18:10,478 --> 03:18:11,780 going to ask about them. I'm 5978 03:18:11,780 --> 03:18:14,780 going continue with what's in 5979 03:18:14,716 --> 03:18:15,450 front of us. Absolutely. And, 5980 03:18:15,450 --> 03:18:16,250 know, I asked you that during 5981 03:18:16,250 --> 03:18:17,840 our agenda review as well. And 5982 03:18:17,840 --> 03:18:20,684 I just wanted to for the 5983 03:18:22,523 --> 03:18:23,324 public's knowledge you know? 5984 03:18:23,324 --> 03:18:23,925 It's hard because, you know, 5985 03:18:23,925 --> 03:18:26,961 do the question is, do we rip 5986 03:18:26,961 --> 03:18:29,998 the Band-Aid off today or do 5987 03:18:29,998 --> 03:18:31,999 we wait and see what happens 5988 03:18:31,999 --> 03:18:33,100 with, you know, the the 5989 03:18:33,100 --> 03:18:33,468 resolution or the referendums 5990 03:18:33,468 --> 03:18:34,200 that are happening in 5991 03:18:34,200 --> 03:18:36,402 everything and how that's 5992 03:18:38,939 --> 03:18:39,607 going to affect us in NOVEMBER 5993 03:18:39,607 --> 03:18:42,607 and just leave Fy 2027 budget 5994 03:18:43,645 --> 03:18:44,245 as it is. And then have to 5995 03:18:44,245 --> 03:18:46,580 make the real hard decisions 5996 03:18:46,580 --> 03:18:47,149 in 2028. That's that's the 5997 03:18:47,149 --> 03:18:50,149 question that's in front of 5998 03:18:50,418 --> 03:18:53,555 us. And. I mean, I do want 5999 03:18:53,555 --> 03:18:57,155 services for the city. I don't 6000 03:18:57,526 --> 03:18:58,559 want to do constrain the 6001 03:18:58,559 --> 03:19:01,559 current you know, until we 6002 03:19:03,365 --> 03:19:04,366 need to do so. You don't want 6003 03:19:04,366 --> 03:19:07,202 to rip that Band-Aid off 6004 03:19:07,202 --> 03:19:07,803 unless you know, we need to 6005 03:19:07,803 --> 03:19:11,403 because, you you MAY not have 6006 03:19:14,510 --> 03:19:16,910 healed Commissioner Rusty. To 6007 03:19:17,790 --> 03:19:19,790 rebuttal. You commissioner. 6008 03:19:19,580 --> 03:19:21,500 First got as city manager. But 6009 03:19:21,500 --> 03:19:23,252 we're talking about pink 6010 03:19:23,252 --> 03:19:26,252 slips. Business world. As you 6011 03:19:29,191 --> 03:19:29,992 probably well know. Identified 6012 03:19:29,992 --> 03:19:32,392 that yours, 15 positions that 6013 03:19:32,395 --> 03:19:33,429 need to be vacated. 6014 03:19:33,429 --> 03:19:36,429 >> I personally don't want to 6015 03:19:38,330 --> 03:19:38,634 see somebody vacated, but how 6016 03:19:38,634 --> 03:19:39,134 many departments are you have 6017 03:19:39,134 --> 03:19:41,534 looked at every single 6018 03:19:41,903 --> 03:19:43,903 department? How many 6019 03:19:44,139 --> 03:19:46,139 departments we have 16, 17. 6020 03:19:47,910 --> 03:19:49,879 Let's go from there, MR. 6021 03:19:49,879 --> 03:19:51,247 Mayor. 6022 03:19:51,247 --> 03:19:51,848 >> summer of subsidiaries of 6023 03:19:51,848 --> 03:19:54,248 larger departments. But 15 is 6024 03:19:54,316 --> 03:19:56,553 usually what I Kuwait is the 6025 03:19:56,553 --> 03:19:57,921 major departments. What I can 6026 03:19:57,921 --> 03:20:00,222 tell you globally and this is 6027 03:20:00,222 --> 03:20:02,592 a a fair and truthful 6028 03:20:02,592 --> 03:20:04,360 statement. Was that every 6029 03:20:04,360 --> 03:20:06,829 department in division was a 6030 03:20:06,829 --> 03:20:07,731 look that especially when we 6031 03:20:07,731 --> 03:20:08,998 got direction that the for at 6032 03:20:08,998 --> 03:20:11,601 the initial meeting to look at 6033 03:20:11,601 --> 03:20:15,201 police and fire. What I would 6034 03:20:15,338 --> 03:20:16,806 tell you is that our initial? 6035 03:20:16,806 --> 03:20:18,508 Evaluation carved out police 6036 03:20:18,508 --> 03:20:20,710 and fire. So what I would tell 6037 03:20:20,710 --> 03:20:23,110 you without reservation is 6038 03:20:23,680 --> 03:20:25,649 that every department in the 6039 03:20:25,649 --> 03:20:26,483 entire city was run through 6040 03:20:26,483 --> 03:20:28,251 this filter in process. That 6041 03:20:28,251 --> 03:20:31,251 was a collaborative one and 6042 03:20:33,357 --> 03:20:33,957 had many iterations. 6043 03:20:33,957 --> 03:20:36,357 >> Okay. To personally would 6044 03:20:37,493 --> 03:20:38,729 like to sit down with you, 6045 03:20:38,729 --> 03:20:41,729 Christine, go over some of 6046 03:20:44,601 --> 03:20:45,169 these things you know, it's 6047 03:20:45,169 --> 03:20:48,169 it's very tough. What we're 6048 03:20:48,939 --> 03:20:49,440 talking about here, y'all. Not 6049 03:20:49,440 --> 03:20:51,840 letting people work and 6050 03:20:53,343 --> 03:20:54,678 everything like that. I'd like 6051 03:20:54,678 --> 03:20:56,779 to sit down with you and go go 6052 03:20:56,779 --> 03:20:59,216 through it. Maybe we can find 6053 03:20:59,216 --> 03:21:00,984 some answers. Do you have any 6054 03:21:00,984 --> 03:21:03,530 hiring freeze is in effect 6055 03:21:03,530 --> 03:21:03,653 right now, MR. Maher 6056 03:21:03,653 --> 03:21:04,221 Commissioner Ross that we've 6057 03:21:04,221 --> 03:21:05,189 been in a hiring freeze for 6058 03:21:05,189 --> 03:21:07,910 the last 6 months unless it 6059 03:21:07,910 --> 03:21:08,625 was mission critical. 6060 03:21:08,625 --> 03:21:09,993 >> So there you're going to 6061 03:21:09,993 --> 03:21:12,229 hear some some opportunities 6062 03:21:12,229 --> 03:21:13,965 that we're gonna Dana icm 6063 03:21:13,965 --> 03:21:15,732 report that we've added staff. 6064 03:21:15,732 --> 03:21:17,802 But these the Ute is mission 6065 03:21:17,802 --> 03:21:19,737 critical positions. Not at 6066 03:21:19,737 --> 03:21:20,338 all. All positions are 6067 03:21:20,338 --> 03:21:22,305 important, but these are very 6068 03:21:22,305 --> 03:21:23,441 critical to the service of the 6069 03:21:23,441 --> 03:21:25,142 community. So we've been in a 6070 03:21:25,142 --> 03:21:26,643 hiring freeze. And we've also 6071 03:21:26,643 --> 03:21:30,243 been a travel freeze and less 6072 03:21:31,150 --> 03:21:31,816 those required some type of 6073 03:21:31,816 --> 03:21:33,651 accreditation and training or 6074 03:21:33,651 --> 03:21:35,653 what have you. So that's more 6075 03:21:35,653 --> 03:21:36,688 discernment from the 6076 03:21:36,688 --> 03:21:38,890 individual director myself. 6077 03:21:38,890 --> 03:21:38,690 But we what we would tell you 6078 03:21:38,690 --> 03:21:41,690 is that we've done everything 6079 03:21:41,926 --> 03:21:44,963 in our ability to not only 6080 03:21:44,963 --> 03:21:46,898 look at expense controls, do 6081 03:21:46,898 --> 03:21:48,200 our best to pause in the 6082 03:21:48,200 --> 03:21:49,367 access that we believe until 6083 03:21:49,367 --> 03:21:50,268 we came to this decision point 6084 03:21:50,268 --> 03:21:53,268 and I empathize and recognize 6085 03:21:53,672 --> 03:21:54,372 it is a tough decision. You're 6086 03:21:54,372 --> 03:21:56,772 100% right. This is why 6087 03:21:57,909 --> 03:22:00,780 approached it the way we have 6088 03:22:00,780 --> 03:22:03,780 because we don't want we 6089 03:22:03,215 --> 03:22:05,283 really insured to the best of 6090 03:22:05,283 --> 03:22:07,686 our ability, not a lead 6091 03:22:07,686 --> 03:22:10,860 information that would impact 6092 03:22:11,490 --> 03:22:11,723 somebody unnecessarily move. 6093 03:22:11,723 --> 03:22:12,491 Isn't. 6094 03:22:12,491 --> 03:22:13,358 >> I'm up to speed so that you 6095 03:22:13,358 --> 03:22:16,295 do have a hard freeze for the 6096 03:22:16,295 --> 03:22:16,895 last 6 months and a 6097 03:22:16,895 --> 03:22:19,295 trouble-free of 6 months. Is 6098 03:22:20,999 --> 03:22:24,599 that correct? MR. Maher See it 6099 03:22:26,338 --> 03:22:27,139 is correct. Yes or and have 6100 03:22:27,139 --> 03:22:27,705 you identified anybody that 6101 03:22:27,705 --> 03:22:30,705 you're going I'm not asking 6102 03:22:32,211 --> 03:22:34,212 for the This testing in 6103 03:22:34,212 --> 03:22:36,182 general question, do you have 6104 03:22:36,182 --> 03:22:37,283 your eye on any positions that 6105 03:22:37,283 --> 03:22:40,283 might vacated that use that 6106 03:22:40,986 --> 03:22:43,589 Vacate it? By budget. Have 6107 03:22:43,589 --> 03:22:47,189 gone that far yet? MR. Maher 6108 03:22:47,694 --> 03:22:48,894 see it if I'm understanding 6109 03:22:48,894 --> 03:22:49,429 your question, how we identify 6110 03:22:49,429 --> 03:22:50,963 positions that if we move 6111 03:22:50,963 --> 03:22:52,963 forward with now. 6112 03:22:53,833 --> 03:22:55,833 >> Be vacated. The. 6113 03:22:56,602 --> 03:22:59,602 >> yes, a So absolutely what 6114 03:23:01,941 --> 03:23:02,809 we what our team has. 6115 03:23:02,809 --> 03:23:05,209 Incorporated into this process 6116 03:23:08,181 --> 03:23:08,714 is one has been layer of layer 6117 03:23:08,714 --> 03:23:10,714 of conversation regarding 6118 03:23:11,251 --> 03:23:12,552 streamline some of the some of 6119 03:23:12,552 --> 03:23:13,520 if not all of the direction of 6120 03:23:13,520 --> 03:23:15,880 leadership that we received 6121 03:23:15,880 --> 03:23:15,755 from the aforementioned 3 6122 03:23:15,755 --> 03:23:17,190 grand jury reports about 6123 03:23:17,190 --> 03:23:19,559 reducing the size of 6124 03:23:19,559 --> 03:23:21,559 government. Streamlining the 6125 03:23:23,296 --> 03:23:25,296 organizational chart 6126 03:23:26,566 --> 03:23:27,567 eliminating layers of 6127 03:23:27,567 --> 03:23:28,769 leadership. These are these 6128 03:23:28,769 --> 03:23:29,902 dripped upon us over this 6129 03:23:29,902 --> 03:23:33,273 course of of action. So we've 6130 03:23:33,273 --> 03:23:35,208 incorporated all of that into 6131 03:23:35,208 --> 03:23:36,676 this process. We were able to 6132 03:23:36,676 --> 03:23:37,243 accomplish the savings that we 6133 03:23:37,243 --> 03:23:39,643 presented at the beginning 6134 03:23:41,114 --> 03:23:43,150 didn't believe was a strong 6135 03:23:43,150 --> 03:23:44,984 start. But what we were 6136 03:23:44,984 --> 03:23:46,153 instructed to do is to go 6137 03:23:46,153 --> 03:23:48,722 further. So we are we are of 6138 03:23:48,722 --> 03:23:49,289 the opinion that we could go 6139 03:23:49,289 --> 03:23:51,659 further. You will instruct 6140 03:23:51,659 --> 03:23:52,492 that or we could pause. 6141 03:23:52,492 --> 03:23:53,127 >> I would say the 6142 03:23:53,127 --> 03:23:55,127 commissioner mascots statement 6143 03:23:58,532 --> 03:23:59,133 is one that I I. 6144 03:23:59,133 --> 03:24:01,368 >> I battle every day. How do 6145 03:24:01,368 --> 03:24:01,969 we prepare for what is coming 6146 03:24:01,969 --> 03:24:03,303 >> in front of us and what is 6147 03:24:03,303 --> 03:24:06,730 coming in front of us. And 6148 03:24:06,730 --> 03:24:08,643 this is not shock and awe, but 6149 03:24:08,643 --> 03:24:11,512 we're going to bond money and 6150 03:24:11,512 --> 03:24:12,580 that means the millage is 6151 03:24:12,580 --> 03:24:14,547 automatically going to 6152 03:24:14,547 --> 03:24:16,250 increase. So we are doing our 6153 03:24:16,250 --> 03:24:16,884 best to prepare for that 6154 03:24:16,884 --> 03:24:17,852 because we do not have to make 6155 03:24:17,852 --> 03:24:20,252 this decision today. You're 6156 03:24:21,556 --> 03:24:22,156 absolutely right. There's 6157 03:24:22,156 --> 03:24:24,240 going to be a point in time. 6158 03:24:24,240 --> 03:24:25,960 We're going to have to make a 6159 03:24:25,960 --> 03:24:27,495 decision. I do. We exercise 6160 03:24:27,495 --> 03:24:30,464 the change in our budget this 6161 03:24:30,464 --> 03:24:33,201 year. We exercise this concept 6162 03:24:33,201 --> 03:24:35,680 and we feel we've pulled every 6163 03:24:35,680 --> 03:24:36,737 lever other than right now. 6164 03:24:36,737 --> 03:24:39,137 We're with the additional. 6165 03:24:41,409 --> 03:24:43,478 Savings come from. I it's 6166 03:24:43,478 --> 03:24:44,378 either increase revenue or 6167 03:24:44,378 --> 03:24:44,945 decrease expenses. How do you 6168 03:24:44,945 --> 03:24:46,945 increase revenue? Increase 6169 03:24:48,583 --> 03:24:49,351 taxes? We've done. You can see 6170 03:24:49,351 --> 03:24:52,420 right now with items that are 6171 03:24:52,420 --> 03:24:53,521 going to come for you tonight. 6172 03:24:53,521 --> 03:24:56,191 We have now effectively in 6173 03:24:56,191 --> 03:24:56,724 every every revenue department 6174 03:24:56,724 --> 03:24:59,124 have taken very candid 6175 03:24:59,494 --> 03:25:00,796 approach to a 3 year average 6176 03:25:00,796 --> 03:25:02,663 and have made decisions about 6177 03:25:02,663 --> 03:25:04,700 increasing revenue. So we've 6178 03:25:04,700 --> 03:25:05,167 done that. We've decreased 6179 03:25:05,167 --> 03:25:07,567 expenses. This is an 6180 03:25:08,300 --> 03:25:08,904 additional option is a painful 6181 03:25:08,904 --> 03:25:11,540 one because you're right. It 6182 03:25:11,540 --> 03:25:12,207 is. It involves individuals. 6183 03:25:12,207 --> 03:25:14,676 But if we do not do that now, 6184 03:25:14,676 --> 03:25:16,445 which we have the ability not 6185 03:25:16,445 --> 03:25:17,646 to, we believe then we come 6186 03:25:17,646 --> 03:25:18,580 and ask you to keep us at 6187 03:25:18,580 --> 03:25:20,416 rollback. And then we will do 6188 03:25:20,416 --> 03:25:22,830 everything we can as we prep 6189 03:25:22,830 --> 03:25:26,283 for the next year, too. How do 6190 03:25:28,900 --> 03:25:28,691 we mitigate? And build in the? 6191 03:25:28,691 --> 03:25:32,610 The capacity for the Delta in 6192 03:25:32,610 --> 03:25:35,610 the mileage. It's a tough 6193 03:25:37,967 --> 03:25:38,501 task. Is ice merrily. I think 6194 03:25:38,501 --> 03:25:41,501 we all agree that public 6195 03:25:41,937 --> 03:25:43,139 safety is our top priority. 6196 03:25:43,139 --> 03:25:45,841 And I just want to say for the 6197 03:25:45,841 --> 03:25:48,778 record that should should this 6198 03:25:48,778 --> 03:25:49,178 additional reduction in 6199 03:25:49,178 --> 03:25:51,178 workforce occur? 6200 03:25:51,213 --> 03:25:54,250 >> That none of none of the 6201 03:25:54,250 --> 03:25:54,851 identified positions are sworn 6202 03:25:54,851 --> 03:25:57,251 police officers sworn police 6203 03:25:59,322 --> 03:26:01,322 officers or actual. 6204 03:26:03,126 --> 03:26:05,610 Firefighters or paramedics. It 6205 03:26:05,610 --> 03:26:08,610 would would come maybe pension 6206 03:26:08,464 --> 03:26:08,932 potentially from support 6207 03:26:08,932 --> 03:26:10,932 within within those 2 6208 03:26:13,169 --> 03:26:15,169 departments. Correct. MISTER 6209 03:26:15,939 --> 03:26:19,539 Mayor, MR. Vice Mayor, I you 6210 03:26:19,976 --> 03:26:20,543 know, again, sake of being. 6211 03:26:20,543 --> 03:26:23,543 Compassion, it I would tell 6212 03:26:24,713 --> 03:26:26,616 you that. When you asked us to 6213 03:26:26,616 --> 03:26:27,651 move in, look into not you. In 6214 03:26:27,651 --> 03:26:28,585 general, the commission said 6215 03:26:28,585 --> 03:26:30,420 look at to police and fire. I 6216 03:26:30,420 --> 03:26:31,822 believe we do know at that 6217 03:26:31,822 --> 03:26:33,822 time. 6218 03:26:35,580 --> 03:26:36,226 >> That it was not to look 6219 03:26:36,226 --> 03:26:37,894 life safety. So I would say 6220 03:26:37,894 --> 03:26:39,960 let me refer back to that 6221 03:26:39,960 --> 03:26:39,696 statement and not necessarily 6222 03:26:39,696 --> 03:26:40,163 answer your question directly 6223 03:26:40,163 --> 03:26:42,563 other than we follow 6224 03:26:43,100 --> 03:26:45,100 direction. Commissioner 6225 03:26:46,903 --> 03:26:48,903 Haskell, thank you. 6226 03:26:48,906 --> 03:26:50,106 >> What what dollar amount of 6227 03:26:50,106 --> 03:26:50,707 cost savings did the police 6228 03:26:50,707 --> 03:26:53,243 and fire departments of come 6229 03:26:53,243 --> 03:26:53,743 up with one. You challenge 6230 03:26:53,743 --> 03:26:56,743 them to bring forward a 6231 03:26:57,481 --> 03:26:59,481 reduction. Commissioner has 6232 03:27:00,217 --> 03:27:03,217 called believe each we carried 6233 03:27:03,821 --> 03:27:04,421 out those orders. Kristina 6234 03:27:04,421 --> 03:27:07,421 together, we did it together. 6235 03:27:07,925 --> 03:27:10,610 There it is. Kristina. Can you 6236 03:27:10,610 --> 03:27:10,827 support that? I would say that 6237 03:27:10,827 --> 03:27:11,962 both police and fire came up 6238 03:27:11,962 --> 03:27:13,962 with an additional 120,000 6239 03:27:21,806 --> 03:27:22,373 Inc. Each. Yes, sorry, clearly 6240 03:27:22,373 --> 03:27:26,343 let me try and say it this 6241 03:27:26,343 --> 03:27:29,313 way. Then. I'm trying to maybe 6242 03:27:29,313 --> 03:27:29,881 reassure the public based on 6243 03:27:29,881 --> 03:27:32,281 my conversations with city 6244 03:27:34,180 --> 03:27:35,653 staff. In going through this 6245 03:27:35,653 --> 03:27:36,754 exercise in talking about 6246 03:27:36,754 --> 03:27:39,754 further reductions. It is my 6247 03:27:41,459 --> 03:27:43,459 understanding that should. 6248 03:27:45,430 --> 03:27:46,430 Further cuts need to come to 6249 03:27:46,430 --> 03:27:47,232 personnel that sworn police 6250 03:27:47,232 --> 03:27:47,866 officers, boots on the ground. 6251 03:27:47,866 --> 03:27:49,800 The men and women that are out 6252 03:27:49,800 --> 03:27:52,137 there protecting us would not 6253 03:27:52,137 --> 03:27:53,404 be reduced. Norwood fire 6254 03:27:53,404 --> 03:27:55,804 fighters or paramedics. I'm 6255 03:27:57,275 --> 03:27:58,443 not it's not. That's a 6256 03:27:58,443 --> 03:27:59,100 statement that I want to make. 6257 03:27:59,100 --> 03:28:01,512 Putin and Vice Mayor Lee, I 6258 03:28:01,512 --> 03:28:02,914 think we all agree with that. 6259 03:28:02,914 --> 03:28:05,149 I mean, that's that's very 6260 03:28:05,149 --> 03:28:05,951 clear. And whether or not the 6261 03:28:05,951 --> 03:28:07,586 manager, you know, managers 6262 03:28:07,586 --> 03:28:07,986 being very careful and it's 6263 03:28:07,986 --> 03:28:08,620 understandable. 6264 03:28:08,620 --> 03:28:11,230 >> We understand why he saying 6265 03:28:11,230 --> 03:28:13,910 what he's saying as the policy 6266 03:28:13,910 --> 03:28:14,559 board of the City Commission. 6267 03:28:14,559 --> 03:28:16,862 I think we all with I doubt 6268 03:28:16,862 --> 03:28:19,262 anybody would disagree with 6269 03:28:20,799 --> 03:28:22,330 that. We we have the minimum 6270 03:28:22,330 --> 03:28:22,934 Manning that's required in the 6271 03:28:22,934 --> 03:28:24,103 police department. The minimum 6272 03:28:24,103 --> 03:28:25,270 Manning that's required for 6273 03:28:25,270 --> 03:28:25,871 paramedics or ambulance 6274 03:28:25,871 --> 03:28:28,700 service are firefighters. And 6275 03:28:28,700 --> 03:28:28,540 that's going that's going to 6276 03:28:28,540 --> 03:28:30,242 be maintained. So really 6277 03:28:30,242 --> 03:28:32,242 appreciate mentioning that 6278 03:28:32,244 --> 03:28:33,345 because that's the public 6279 03:28:33,345 --> 03:28:34,980 needs to satisfied. But with 6280 03:28:34,980 --> 03:28:37,616 okay, commissioner can I think 6281 03:28:37,616 --> 03:28:38,818 that I wanted to say that we 6282 03:28:38,818 --> 03:28:41,818 we so shortage already in 6283 03:28:42,880 --> 03:28:44,488 those 2 departments that these 6284 03:28:47,993 --> 03:28:49,628 guys a work in to the bone I 6285 03:28:49,628 --> 03:28:53,828 have a son who works for the 6286 03:28:54,533 --> 03:28:55,670 city and he's out there at $23 6287 03:28:55,670 --> 03:28:58,604 an hour. I mean, he's out 6288 03:28:58,604 --> 03:28:59,505 there in the Berlin son. I pay 6289 03:28:59,505 --> 03:29:03,105 for an education for but that 6290 03:29:03,576 --> 03:29:04,143 that's what he likes to do. 6291 03:29:04,143 --> 03:29:05,110 Children is out children s 6292 03:29:05,110 --> 03:29:07,411 that's their choice. But 6293 03:29:09,716 --> 03:29:12,116 again. Personally don't want 6294 03:29:13,419 --> 03:29:16,523 body to lose a job. But I 6295 03:29:16,523 --> 03:29:17,790 understand the crisis that we 6296 03:29:17,790 --> 03:29:18,625 end. But please don't don't 6297 03:29:18,625 --> 03:29:22,225 pick on the people that keep 6298 03:29:22,696 --> 03:29:26,296 our city going. Every that out 6299 03:29:26,566 --> 03:29:30,166 there in that Berlin son Day 6300 03:29:31,238 --> 03:29:32,806 to for some reason or another 6301 03:29:32,806 --> 03:29:35,806 these jobs are essential. To 6302 03:29:36,777 --> 03:29:39,777 us. Every department to me 6303 03:29:41,470 --> 03:29:42,549 means something to the city. 6304 03:29:42,549 --> 03:29:44,718 And again, I want to support 6305 03:29:44,718 --> 03:29:47,387 city staff any way. I know how 6306 03:29:47,387 --> 03:29:47,988 so be cautious to those people 6307 03:29:47,988 --> 03:29:50,123 that go out here and do what 6308 03:29:50,123 --> 03:29:50,657 they do every day for us. 6309 03:29:50,657 --> 03:29:52,657 Commissioner commissioner 6310 03:29:54,761 --> 03:29:55,529 mascot to talking about 6311 03:29:55,529 --> 03:29:58,165 specifics here. We have to 6312 03:29:58,165 --> 03:29:59,400 trust our staff. 6313 03:29:59,400 --> 03:30:00,333 >> When we direct them reduced 6314 03:30:00,333 --> 03:30:02,435 by 15 positions that they're 6315 03:30:02,435 --> 03:30:05,435 going make the the right 6316 03:30:05,439 --> 03:30:07,473 choice. This is conceptual. I 6317 03:30:07,473 --> 03:30:08,750 don't want to Officers are 6318 03:30:08,750 --> 03:30:10,475 public safety. First tonight, 6319 03:30:13,147 --> 03:30:16,747 Iran on that but the direction 6320 03:30:17,118 --> 03:30:18,653 was can we go further? Staff 6321 03:30:18,653 --> 03:30:19,253 said yes, it would be hard and 6322 03:30:19,253 --> 03:30:21,756 they're going to be positions 6323 03:30:21,756 --> 03:30:24,250 that are filled. Are we 6324 03:30:24,250 --> 03:30:27,250 willing to direct? The city 6325 03:30:27,461 --> 03:30:29,861 manager, the staff? To 6326 03:30:32,166 --> 03:30:33,233 eliminate 15 filled positions. 6327 03:30:33,233 --> 03:30:36,704 You know, I don't want to be 6328 03:30:36,704 --> 03:30:37,505 work or because I you know, 6329 03:30:37,505 --> 03:30:39,440 voted reduce the rent for, you 6330 03:30:39,440 --> 03:30:41,840 know, restaurant here. We've 6331 03:30:45,130 --> 03:30:45,847 got to reduce costs. So you 6332 03:30:45,847 --> 03:30:48,550 know, I we either do this this 6333 03:30:48,550 --> 03:30:49,751 year. We do it next year and 6334 03:30:49,751 --> 03:30:52,953 we have to trust our staff to 6335 03:30:52,953 --> 03:30:53,488 to make the right decisions. 6336 03:30:53,488 --> 03:30:54,220 We appear don't say this 6337 03:30:54,220 --> 03:30:56,422 person, this person, this 6338 03:30:58,426 --> 03:31:00,228 person, that's their job. So I 6339 03:31:00,228 --> 03:31:01,463 just want to say one thing 6340 03:31:01,463 --> 03:31:04,533 before and I the 2 of you want 6341 03:31:04,533 --> 03:31:05,734 to speak. So Vice Mayor Lee. 6342 03:31:05,734 --> 03:31:06,301 >> And Commissioner Rossi and 6343 03:31:06,301 --> 03:31:08,737 I have many years of budget 6344 03:31:08,737 --> 03:31:10,906 experience. Okay. Know that 6345 03:31:10,906 --> 03:31:11,506 others have years as well. But 6346 03:31:11,506 --> 03:31:14,506 Commissioner Rossi had a lot 6347 03:31:15,476 --> 03:31:17,946 of years and really did. And I 6348 03:31:17,946 --> 03:31:18,747 have and have to say this year 6349 03:31:18,747 --> 03:31:20,514 is different for one reason. 6350 03:31:20,514 --> 03:31:23,150 And one reason only. And that 6351 03:31:23,150 --> 03:31:25,287 is debt service. The debt 6352 03:31:25,287 --> 03:31:25,854 service the city is taking on 6353 03:31:25,854 --> 03:31:29,224 is well beyond what we can 6354 03:31:29,224 --> 03:31:29,858 afford. That's my position. 6355 03:31:29,858 --> 03:31:31,627 Its debt service. We shouldn't 6356 03:31:31,627 --> 03:31:33,762 have taken on. We shouldn't 6357 03:31:33,762 --> 03:31:34,663 take it on and we should 6358 03:31:34,663 --> 03:31:36,465 sharpen our pencils and reduce 6359 03:31:36,465 --> 03:31:38,233 the debt service. That's what 6360 03:31:38,233 --> 03:31:40,236 we should be doing. We should 6361 03:31:40,236 --> 03:31:43,105 be looking at reserves, the 6362 03:31:43,105 --> 03:31:44,600 calculated with that. I run a 6363 03:31:44,600 --> 03:31:46,406 business. These gentleman to 6364 03:31:47,675 --> 03:31:48,310 my left front of business. We 6365 03:31:48,310 --> 03:31:49,110 know when we have when we have 6366 03:31:49,110 --> 03:31:50,646 a business, we are very 6367 03:31:50,646 --> 03:31:52,748 careful with our reserves. But 6368 03:31:52,748 --> 03:31:53,649 keep reserves have to be 6369 03:31:53,649 --> 03:31:54,750 balanced and it's not we don't 6370 03:31:54,750 --> 03:31:58,350 need to be over reserved. And 6371 03:31:58,921 --> 03:31:59,388 I know that reserves a 6372 03:31:59,388 --> 03:32:00,856 controversial issue, 6373 03:32:00,856 --> 03:32:01,924 especially in our finance 6374 03:32:01,924 --> 03:32:02,991 department. But when it comes 6375 03:32:02,991 --> 03:32:05,991 to firing people, I'm against 6376 03:32:07,296 --> 03:32:09,298 it. I'm just against I'm 6377 03:32:09,298 --> 03:32:09,899 sorry. I am not going to 6378 03:32:09,899 --> 03:32:12,268 support that. And the reason 6379 03:32:12,268 --> 03:32:13,136 I'm not gonna support it until 6380 03:32:13,136 --> 03:32:14,360 I'm convinced that we can't 6381 03:32:14,360 --> 03:32:14,671 reduce the debt service were 6382 03:32:14,671 --> 03:32:17,671 taking on 4 million dollars of 6383 03:32:17,907 --> 03:32:18,741 debt service. And we're 6384 03:32:18,741 --> 03:32:21,100 talking about trying to reduce 6385 03:32:21,100 --> 03:32:22,946 budget by 1.6 million. You 6386 03:32:22,946 --> 03:32:25,810 know, it's it's frustrating to 6387 03:32:25,810 --> 03:32:26,515 me that we didn't have this 6388 03:32:26,515 --> 03:32:27,916 discussion before we committed 6389 03:32:27,916 --> 03:32:29,786 to 4 million dollars of new 6390 03:32:29,786 --> 03:32:30,687 debt service because this is 6391 03:32:30,687 --> 03:32:33,355 the consequence. So I'm not 6392 03:32:33,355 --> 03:32:35,224 here to blame anybody, but I'm 6393 03:32:35,224 --> 03:32:36,293 just saying from my 6394 03:32:36,293 --> 03:32:36,860 perspective, I'm not convinced 6395 03:32:36,860 --> 03:32:38,128 it's necessary. And that's 6396 03:32:38,128 --> 03:32:39,529 that's just where I'm coming 6397 03:32:39,529 --> 03:32:43,129 from. So and I totally agree 6398 03:32:43,200 --> 03:32:44,267 with what Vice-mayor Lee said 6399 03:32:44,267 --> 03:32:44,834 about police and fire. And 6400 03:32:44,834 --> 03:32:46,834 what commissioner Castillo 6401 03:32:47,337 --> 03:32:47,971 said is absolutely right. 6402 03:32:47,971 --> 03:32:50,371 We're probably understaffed in 6403 03:32:51,542 --> 03:32:52,142 our fire department and and 6404 03:32:52,142 --> 03:32:53,977 our police department, ok? So 6405 03:32:53,977 --> 03:32:58,480 we are we are taking it on the 6406 03:32:58,480 --> 03:32:59,583 chin multiple times, you so to 6407 03:32:59,583 --> 03:33:00,116 speak because we're putting 6408 03:33:00,116 --> 03:33:03,116 ourselves in a really bad 6409 03:33:03,152 --> 03:33:06,152 position. But anyway. For my 6410 03:33:06,223 --> 03:33:07,570 soapbox Commissioner Ross and 6411 03:33:07,570 --> 03:33:07,658 then vice let's put it this 6412 03:33:07,658 --> 03:33:10,827 way. I think all of us appear 6413 03:33:10,827 --> 03:33:11,394 on the guys. 6414 03:33:11,394 --> 03:33:13,697 >> I agree there will be no 6415 03:33:13,697 --> 03:33:14,231 cuts in public service 6416 03:33:14,231 --> 03:33:16,631 department or the police 6417 03:33:17,468 --> 03:33:20,203 department. Okay. We all say 6418 03:33:20,203 --> 03:33:23,774 that they do a great job with 6419 03:33:23,774 --> 03:33:24,308 you on that one. Okay. But I 6420 03:33:24,308 --> 03:33:27,308 really like do with you, 6421 03:33:27,378 --> 03:33:30,978 Brian. And take a sharp pencil 6422 03:33:33,500 --> 03:33:33,584 with Christine. Is how, you 6423 03:33:33,584 --> 03:33:36,220 know, I know how you were 6424 03:33:36,220 --> 03:33:38,355 trained with Mark Finnegan. So 6425 03:33:38,355 --> 03:33:38,923 we just said like to sit down 6426 03:33:38,923 --> 03:33:39,457 and go over some stuff with 6427 03:33:39,457 --> 03:33:42,457 you, Brian, MAY find some 6428 03:33:42,893 --> 03:33:43,528 extra money somewhere? Maybe 6429 03:33:43,528 --> 03:33:44,362 you've got a console data. The 6430 03:33:44,362 --> 03:33:44,929 couple departments or 6431 03:33:44,929 --> 03:33:47,929 something. I don't know the 6432 03:33:48,166 --> 03:33:48,766 answer to that yet. Just come 6433 03:33:48,766 --> 03:33:50,869 back. Appear you guys on the 6434 03:33:50,869 --> 03:33:52,537 guys for the first time in 6435 03:33:52,537 --> 03:33:56,137 years. I kind of step back. 6436 03:33:56,141 --> 03:33:56,273 Let's see take it Back up your 6437 03:33:56,273 --> 03:33:56,378 b# 6438 03:33:56,378 --> 03:33:56,489 # 6439 03:33:56,489 --> 03:33:57,909 # 6440 03:33:57,909 --> 03:33:59,844 . I need to get my grasp 6441 03:33:59,844 --> 03:34:03,444 around the numbers and then we 6442 03:34:03,682 --> 03:34:06,820 can have discussion. Vice 6443 03:34:07,752 --> 03:34:11,352 Mayor Lee, did you no? Anybody 6444 03:34:13,224 --> 03:34:13,458 else? Okay. Next item. But I'm 6445 03:34:13,458 --> 03:34:15,458 Sorry. 6446 03:34:17,395 --> 03:34:18,960 >> MR. Maher, so if I want her 6447 03:34:18,960 --> 03:34:20,299 bradeen, I believe the 6448 03:34:20,299 --> 03:34:23,168 collective what our plan would 6449 03:34:23,168 --> 03:34:23,702 be as a team would to the 6450 03:34:23,702 --> 03:34:24,269 tense. The SEPTEMBER 10th 6451 03:34:24,269 --> 03:34:25,903 budget meeting would be no 6452 03:34:25,903 --> 03:34:27,903 further additional reductions. 6453 03:34:29,730 --> 03:34:30,108 Is it safe to say? We could 6454 03:34:30,108 --> 03:34:32,177 take a poll if you want or 6455 03:34:32,177 --> 03:34:32,744 didn't get any answer. That's 6456 03:34:32,744 --> 03:34:34,546 why I'm a little apologize. 6457 03:34:34,546 --> 03:34:37,216 I'm not trying to do anything 6458 03:34:37,216 --> 03:34:40,216 other than get direction. You 6459 03:34:42,187 --> 03:34:43,756 want a couple Well, why don't 6460 03:34:43,756 --> 03:34:44,356 Should we go down the line and 6461 03:34:44,356 --> 03:34:45,457 give it's a very comfortable 6462 03:34:45,457 --> 03:34:49,929 at that and say yes or no or 6463 03:34:49,929 --> 03:34:50,463 >> or or do you do? 6464 03:34:50,463 --> 03:34:51,960 Commissioner mascot, the 6465 03:34:51,960 --> 03:34:51,663 winning ticket sales start and 6466 03:34:51,663 --> 03:34:54,633 I agree, no additional cuts 6467 03:34:54,633 --> 03:34:56,902 right now. Okay. Commissioner 6468 03:34:56,902 --> 03:34:57,103 Haskell. 6469 03:34:57,103 --> 03:34:59,103 >> I 6470 03:34:59,939 --> 03:35:03,539 >> At a coffee at that if 6471 03:35:03,910 --> 03:35:04,443 there our positions that you. 6472 03:35:04,443 --> 03:35:06,843 In your research, you've 6473 03:35:08,130 --> 03:35:08,814 determined our duplicate it. 6474 03:35:08,814 --> 03:35:10,814 Duplicative. If there's 6475 03:35:11,516 --> 03:35:13,516 unnecessary layers of 6476 03:35:14,253 --> 03:35:16,550 management in a particular 6477 03:35:16,550 --> 03:35:16,522 department, that's the kind of 6478 03:35:16,522 --> 03:35:18,922 cost savings on more 6479 03:35:19,893 --> 03:35:22,293 interested in seeing then 6480 03:35:22,995 --> 03:35:24,931 cutting out, you know, some 6481 03:35:24,931 --> 03:35:25,632 community service employees 6482 03:35:25,632 --> 03:35:28,632 who are doing maintenance city 6483 03:35:31,204 --> 03:35:31,937 streets and sidewalks so I'm 6484 03:35:31,937 --> 03:35:32,539 not asking 15 positions and 6485 03:35:32,539 --> 03:35:34,808 definitely not asking for 15 6486 03:35:34,808 --> 03:35:37,210 positions to be reduced. And I 6487 03:35:37,210 --> 03:35:40,446 think you did a great job in 6488 03:35:40,446 --> 03:35:41,748 bringing forward the draft 6489 03:35:41,748 --> 03:35:43,830 budget at minus rollback. I 6490 03:35:43,830 --> 03:35:43,683 think, right. You brought it 6491 03:35:43,683 --> 03:35:46,253 back at minus. Roll back and 6492 03:35:46,253 --> 03:35:49,423 we adopted at rollback. So and 6493 03:35:49,423 --> 03:35:50,570 I don't think that. I don't 6494 03:35:50,570 --> 03:35:53,226 think we're going to start pan 6495 03:35:53,226 --> 03:35:54,461 on those bonds until the next 6496 03:35:54,461 --> 03:35:57,363 year. Am I right or about 6497 03:35:57,363 --> 03:35:59,499 that? That is correct. Yeah. 6498 03:35:59,499 --> 03:36:01,200 So so next year, you know, 6499 03:36:01,200 --> 03:36:01,801 we'll have a problem on our 6500 03:36:01,801 --> 03:36:03,971 hands, which is kind of like, 6501 03:36:03,971 --> 03:36:05,873 you know what that city 6502 03:36:05,873 --> 03:36:06,773 commission has done for so 6503 03:36:06,773 --> 03:36:08,542 years. Roll back a little bit. 6504 03:36:08,542 --> 03:36:09,943 Well back. We had all this 6505 03:36:09,943 --> 03:36:10,511 deferred maintenance. Then 6506 03:36:10,511 --> 03:36:13,913 we've got to have these big 6507 03:36:13,913 --> 03:36:14,881 capital projects because, you 6508 03:36:14,881 --> 03:36:16,917 know, pass city commissions 6509 03:36:16,917 --> 03:36:18,986 were on a pay as you go basis 6510 03:36:18,986 --> 03:36:20,353 and didn't want to borrow 6511 03:36:20,353 --> 03:36:20,888 money. So I mean, now now 6512 03:36:20,888 --> 03:36:21,455 we're now we're going to 6513 03:36:21,455 --> 03:36:23,590 borrow money, but we're not 6514 03:36:23,590 --> 03:36:27,190 going to pay it back this 6515 03:36:28,329 --> 03:36:31,929 year. You know, next year is 6516 03:36:32,400 --> 03:36:32,967 you know, we might have to do 6517 03:36:32,967 --> 03:36:35,602 some more drastic cuts just 6518 03:36:35,602 --> 03:36:38,139 like the county did last year. 6519 03:36:38,139 --> 03:36:41,800 But I think to cut just for 6520 03:36:41,800 --> 03:36:43,711 cutting sake now, I don't 6521 03:36:43,711 --> 03:36:47,311 think we need to do that. 6522 03:36:48,883 --> 03:36:50,184 Commissioner care. I agree on 6523 03:36:50,184 --> 03:36:52,584 the 15 until you can't 6524 03:36:54,589 --> 03:36:55,523 anymore. I will say you heard 6525 03:36:55,523 --> 03:36:56,424 or you what I said was saying, 6526 03:36:56,424 --> 03:36:57,580 but I agree with commissioner 6527 03:36:57,580 --> 03:36:59,458 has school that and 6528 03:36:59,960 --> 03:37:02,731 >> keep in mind that in years 6529 03:37:02,731 --> 03:37:04,466 past we were talking about 6530 03:37:04,466 --> 03:37:06,368 reducing the total number of 6531 03:37:06,368 --> 03:37:09,368 personnel and having a plan 6532 03:37:10,370 --> 03:37:11,706 for that. Not all at once, but 6533 03:37:11,706 --> 03:37:12,273 over time. So I think that's 6534 03:37:12,273 --> 03:37:12,873 really what you're kind of 6535 03:37:12,873 --> 03:37:14,873 saying, Commissioner Haskell. 6536 03:37:16,244 --> 03:37:17,145 And that's something that in 6537 03:37:17,145 --> 03:37:18,513 the transition over time, 6538 03:37:18,513 --> 03:37:19,380 didn't keep the momentum of 6539 03:37:19,380 --> 03:37:21,150 doing that. But I I really 6540 03:37:21,150 --> 03:37:23,415 appreciate that point. Vice 6541 03:37:25,753 --> 03:37:28,153 Mayor Lee. Staying at 6542 03:37:29,791 --> 03:37:33,391 rollback. I If we think that 6543 03:37:33,896 --> 03:37:34,429 this year's hard just afraid 6544 03:37:34,429 --> 03:37:36,365 that it even went to next 6545 03:37:36,365 --> 03:37:40,565 year's going to be in roof in 6546 03:37:41,700 --> 03:37:43,470 much worse difficult. But 6547 03:37:48,277 --> 03:37:51,747 Commissioner I c I don't want 6548 03:37:51,747 --> 03:37:54,650 to see anybody, but as we see 6549 03:37:54,650 --> 03:37:55,217 it moving forward, some of 6550 03:37:55,217 --> 03:37:57,617 these positions could have 6551 03:37:59,622 --> 03:38:02,220 been micromanage. And Now, 6552 03:38:02,591 --> 03:38:03,226 instead of holding one title. 6553 03:38:03,226 --> 03:38:07,426 For the amount of money we pay 6554 03:38:07,463 --> 03:38:10,433 in. It should be a multi title 6555 03:38:10,433 --> 03:38:12,234 and said it becomes fake. It. 6556 03:38:12,234 --> 03:38:14,103 You know, someone and the 6557 03:38:14,103 --> 03:38:14,303 whatever the case MAY be, you 6558 03:38:14,303 --> 03:38:16,303 know. 6559 03:38:18,741 --> 03:38:21,741 >> Week we can get Yeah. 6560 03:38:23,379 --> 03:38:24,581 >> Thank I agree with their 6561 03:38:24,581 --> 03:38:26,482 100%. But question or 2 to 6562 03:38:26,482 --> 03:38:29,482 4 million dollar bond that is 6563 03:38:30,453 --> 03:38:32,422 for the fire station. Its its 6564 03:38:32,422 --> 03:38:34,457 multiple projects, the fire 6565 03:38:34,457 --> 03:38:35,910 Station Fire Station 3 Jose 6566 03:38:35,910 --> 03:38:35,825 Martinez, flood mitigation and 6567 03:38:35,825 --> 03:38:36,159 roads, roads, road 6568 03:38:36,159 --> 03:38:38,159 improvements. 6569 03:38:39,863 --> 03:38:42,980 >> Roads full. So Brian, the 6570 03:38:42,980 --> 03:38:45,698 the finance put? We used to 6571 03:38:47,571 --> 03:38:48,572 put money away. For capital 6572 03:38:48,572 --> 03:38:50,573 projects. Then we had the 6573 03:38:50,573 --> 03:38:52,909 money. We would do the capital 6574 03:38:52,909 --> 03:38:55,645 project and they this isn't 6575 03:38:55,645 --> 03:38:58,448 Prater said near this is one 6576 03:38:58,448 --> 03:39:01,510 of them, I think done good in 6577 03:39:01,510 --> 03:39:02,840 an ace and fire station to 6578 03:39:02,840 --> 03:39:03,987 over there. The to talk master 6579 03:39:03,987 --> 03:39:06,987 building was another one at 6580 03:39:07,423 --> 03:39:08,250 that. Have I agree with 6581 03:39:08,250 --> 03:39:11,250 everybody on the board here. 6582 03:39:11,160 --> 03:39:11,729 Want you to know that. I think 6583 03:39:11,729 --> 03:39:14,532 that we should hold of it. 6584 03:39:14,532 --> 03:39:15,650 What it is. But I'd really 6585 03:39:15,650 --> 03:39:18,100 like to sit down. Look at 6586 03:39:18,100 --> 03:39:20,371 tradition with you and soon if 6587 03:39:20,371 --> 03:39:21,137 there's any way we can seen by 6588 03:39:21,137 --> 03:39:24,137 other departments. But I don't 6589 03:39:24,208 --> 03:39:24,775 want to see anybody their job. 6590 03:39:24,775 --> 03:39:27,775 Okay. That's that's my main 6591 03:39:28,245 --> 03:39:28,845 point. But I think but first 6592 03:39:28,845 --> 03:39:32,116 start on this ties sit down 6593 03:39:32,116 --> 03:39:32,682 with you, Christine and go 6594 03:39:32,682 --> 03:39:34,618 through some of the people 6595 03:39:34,618 --> 03:39:35,419 that are here. Department 6596 03:39:35,419 --> 03:39:38,419 aides remember, used to come 6597 03:39:39,557 --> 03:39:40,190 into the room upstairs and a 6598 03:39:40,190 --> 03:39:42,994 line item by line. And focused 6599 03:39:42,994 --> 03:39:44,795 at sheen. How many telephones 6600 03:39:44,795 --> 03:39:48,199 to love for law allowed says 6601 03:39:48,199 --> 03:39:50,168 there's so much that's there. 6602 03:39:50,168 --> 03:39:51,836 And said would like to sit 6603 03:39:51,836 --> 03:39:52,603 down and, you know, this year 6604 03:39:52,603 --> 03:39:55,773 you did not let the public 6605 03:39:55,773 --> 03:39:56,341 into it, but I can tell you 6606 03:39:56,341 --> 03:39:59,811 next, will go with this one 6607 03:39:59,811 --> 03:40:00,445 this year. But next year wants 6608 03:40:00,445 --> 03:40:01,446 a public input and they should 6609 03:40:01,446 --> 03:40:02,280 be allowed to come into the 6610 03:40:02,280 --> 03:40:05,280 meeting and see what's going 6611 03:40:06,251 --> 03:40:09,251 on in government. Thank you. 6612 03:40:10,355 --> 03:40:12,755 See 100% agree with that. 6613 03:40:13,580 --> 03:40:13,658 Clear vision. But right 6614 03:40:13,658 --> 03:40:16,394 everybody on this let's just 6615 03:40:16,394 --> 03:40:19,563 say where we're at. Then go 6616 03:40:19,563 --> 03:40:20,164 from there. Is that Perfect, 6617 03:40:20,164 --> 03:40:22,734 ok, think the manager got the 6618 03:40:22,734 --> 03:40:23,801 direction that he needs. So if 6619 03:40:23,801 --> 03:40:27,380 we can go to the next and 6620 03:40:27,380 --> 03:40:27,639 thank MADAM Finance, director. 6621 03:40:27,639 --> 03:40:30,639 Next. I think city manager's 6622 03:40:32,311 --> 03:40:32,911 report. Okay. Mayor 6623 03:40:32,911 --> 03:40:33,478 commissioners, thank you for 6624 03:40:33,478 --> 03:40:35,747 this opportunity. So as we 6625 03:40:35,747 --> 03:40:36,448 close out AUGUST senator in 6626 03:40:36,448 --> 03:40:37,382 the final months of the fiscal 6627 03:40:37,382 --> 03:40:39,510 year, want to provide several 6628 03:40:39,510 --> 03:40:39,551 updates on matters. Important 6629 03:40:39,551 --> 03:40:41,120 to the commission, our 6630 03:40:41,120 --> 03:40:42,421 organization and the 6631 03:40:42,421 --> 03:40:42,988 community. 6632 03:40:42,988 --> 03:40:45,591 >> The first great news is 6633 03:40:45,591 --> 03:40:46,692 this is for Port of Key West 6634 03:40:46,692 --> 03:40:48,627 and it relates to the historic 6635 03:40:48,627 --> 03:40:50,462 f stat funding. Some pleased 6636 03:40:50,462 --> 03:40:51,300 to report on the significant 6637 03:40:51,300 --> 03:40:53,298 funding achievement for the 6638 03:40:53,298 --> 03:40:55,533 Port of Key West on AUGUST. 6639 03:40:55,533 --> 03:40:56,340 27th, the Florida Sea Port 6640 03:40:56,340 --> 03:40:58,340 Transportation Economic 6641 03:40:59,672 --> 03:41:01,741 Development Council have said 6642 03:41:01,741 --> 03:41:03,420 approved 5.2, 7 million 6643 03:41:03,420 --> 03:41:05,478 dollars for the Mallory War 6644 03:41:05,478 --> 03:41:07,878 impair project for fiscal 20 6645 03:41:09,315 --> 03:41:12,315 27 2028. This is the fussed at 6646 03:41:13,219 --> 03:41:15,210 award ever committed to the 6647 03:41:15,210 --> 03:41:16,555 Port of Key West and more than 6648 03:41:16,555 --> 03:41:17,190 10 times the city's 10 year 6649 03:41:17,190 --> 03:41:19,590 average annually allocation of 6650 03:41:21,427 --> 03:41:23,229 approximately 520,000. So want 6651 03:41:23,229 --> 03:41:24,497 to recognize Port director 6652 03:41:24,497 --> 03:41:25,331 Steve Mack, a learning and his 6653 03:41:25,331 --> 03:41:25,865 team for their work in 6654 03:41:25,865 --> 03:41:26,499 advancing this request in 6655 03:41:26,499 --> 03:41:28,499 strengthening our relationship 6656 03:41:29,635 --> 03:41:31,404 with the state and the Seaport 6657 03:41:31,404 --> 03:41:32,400 partners secure an outside 6658 03:41:32,400 --> 03:41:32,772 investments remains critical. 6659 03:41:32,772 --> 03:41:34,340 As we address the city's 6660 03:41:34,340 --> 03:41:35,274 long-term infrastructure 6661 03:41:35,274 --> 03:41:37,760 needs. So if you have an 6662 03:41:37,760 --> 03:41:39,346 opportunity to see Steve and 6663 03:41:39,346 --> 03:41:40,450 his team and then also our 6664 03:41:40,450 --> 03:41:42,248 grant writing and our finance 6665 03:41:42,248 --> 03:41:44,648 director just again, we 6666 03:41:45,952 --> 03:41:46,553 continue to break records 6667 03:41:46,553 --> 03:41:48,553 allocations of infrastructure 6668 03:41:49,289 --> 03:41:50,690 funds and appropriations. As 6669 03:41:50,690 --> 03:41:53,526 far as the next update. This 6670 03:41:53,526 --> 03:41:55,195 is the fema flood map appeal. 6671 03:41:55,195 --> 03:41:57,464 So the city continues to 6672 03:41:57,464 --> 03:41:58,364 participate in the coordinated 6673 03:41:58,364 --> 03:42:00,764 appeal of fema's preliminary 6674 03:42:01,367 --> 03:42:02,536 flood insurance rate maps for 6675 03:42:02,536 --> 03:42:04,700 Monroe County. Fema recently 6676 03:42:04,700 --> 03:42:05,973 responded to the 2021 appeal 6677 03:42:05,973 --> 03:42:08,973 and importantly did not deny 6678 03:42:09,776 --> 03:42:10,477 it except at the Monroe County 6679 03:42:10,477 --> 03:42:12,877 specific modeling updates and 6680 03:42:13,447 --> 03:42:14,481 request an additional 6681 03:42:14,481 --> 03:42:16,350 technical documentation. The 6682 03:42:16,350 --> 03:42:17,251 city previously invested 6683 03:42:17,251 --> 03:42:19,251 approximately 131,000 in 6684 03:42:20,200 --> 03:42:21,255 technical and out analysis. 6685 03:42:21,255 --> 03:42:22,890 The next phase will require 6686 03:42:22,890 --> 03:42:23,991 additional 12,000 from Key 6687 03:42:23,991 --> 03:42:25,725 West bringing our total 6688 03:42:25,725 --> 03:42:27,127 investment to approximately 6689 03:42:27,127 --> 03:42:28,963 144,000 and I have authorize 6690 03:42:28,963 --> 03:42:30,664 staff to continue 6691 03:42:30,664 --> 03:42:32,664 participating, accurate flood 6692 03:42:33,200 --> 03:42:34,567 maps directly effect flood 6693 03:42:34,567 --> 03:42:35,136 zoning designations 6694 03:42:35,136 --> 03:42:36,137 construction requirements, 6695 03:42:36,137 --> 03:42:38,137 property values, insurance 6696 03:42:38,439 --> 03:42:40,608 costs. Our goal remains 6697 03:42:40,608 --> 03:42:42,376 insurance. Fema's final, my 6698 03:42:42,376 --> 03:42:42,944 maps reflect the best and most 6699 03:42:42,944 --> 03:42:44,944 accurate local information 6700 03:42:45,780 --> 03:42:47,148 available. And we want to 6701 03:42:47,148 --> 03:42:47,882 thank the firm's work with 6702 03:42:47,882 --> 03:42:50,882 that. Our team participated in 6703 03:42:51,652 --> 03:42:52,686 a meeting with from as well. 6704 03:42:52,686 --> 03:42:55,686 This is regarding the fiscal 6705 03:42:56,958 --> 03:42:57,959 year 2026. 20's. 27 budget. 6706 03:42:57,959 --> 03:42:58,726 SEPTEMBER will be an important 6707 03:42:58,726 --> 03:42:59,227 month as the commission 6708 03:42:59,227 --> 03:43:00,527 content considers final 6709 03:43:00,527 --> 03:43:02,597 adoption of the fiscal year 6710 03:43:02,597 --> 03:43:04,732 26. 27 budget and the millage 6711 03:43:04,732 --> 03:43:06,201 rate with public hearing 6712 03:43:06,201 --> 03:43:06,801 scheduled for SEPTEMBER 10th 6713 03:43:06,801 --> 03:43:09,801 in SEPTEMBER. 22nd once again 6714 03:43:09,838 --> 03:43:11,840 that SEPTEMBER 10th and 6715 03:43:11,840 --> 03:43:12,807 SEPTEMBER 22nd, the proposed 6716 03:43:12,807 --> 03:43:14,776 budget represents months of 6717 03:43:14,776 --> 03:43:15,310 work by finance. Our 6718 03:43:15,310 --> 03:43:16,845 director's assistant city 6719 03:43:16,845 --> 03:43:18,813 managers, employees throughout 6720 03:43:18,813 --> 03:43:20,248 the organization. Our team has 6721 03:43:20,248 --> 03:43:22,248 closely reviewed, staffing, 6722 03:43:22,249 --> 03:43:23,418 operational capital, needs 6723 03:43:23,418 --> 03:43:24,285 revenues, expenditures and the 6724 03:43:24,285 --> 03:43:26,285 opportunities for greater 6725 03:43:27,222 --> 03:43:27,789 efficiency. As we move through 6726 03:43:27,789 --> 03:43:29,357 the final hearings proposed 6727 03:43:29,357 --> 03:43:30,559 additional Ys additions and 6728 03:43:30,559 --> 03:43:32,761 service changes should be 6729 03:43:32,761 --> 03:43:34,396 evaluated based on operational 6730 03:43:34,396 --> 03:43:34,896 feasibility staffing 6731 03:43:34,896 --> 03:43:36,896 requirements, recurrent 6732 03:43:37,866 --> 03:43:38,867 financial impacts and 6733 03:43:38,867 --> 03:43:39,468 long-term sustainability 6734 03:43:39,468 --> 03:43:40,302 regarding the transportation 6735 03:43:40,302 --> 03:43:42,700 service planning. Our team has 6736 03:43:42,700 --> 03:43:43,400 spent much of this year 6737 03:43:43,400 --> 03:43:44,139 developing the proposed new 6738 03:43:44,139 --> 03:43:45,974 transit loop evaluating 6739 03:43:45,974 --> 03:43:47,750 options for more reliable, 6740 03:43:47,750 --> 03:43:47,943 sustainable system. Our team 6741 03:43:47,943 --> 03:43:48,409 is also preparing information 6742 03:43:48,409 --> 03:43:50,409 regarding the service 6743 03:43:51,246 --> 03:43:51,780 frequency operating costs 6744 03:43:51,780 --> 03:43:54,180 evening service and other 6745 03:43:55,217 --> 03:43:55,718 options requested by the 6746 03:43:55,718 --> 03:43:56,251 commission. Significant 6747 03:43:56,251 --> 03:43:57,252 changes this close to 6748 03:43:57,252 --> 03:43:59,252 implementation and final 6749 03:43:59,388 --> 03:44:01,388 budget. Adoption require 6750 03:44:01,390 --> 03:44:03,225 careful consideration. Robin 6751 03:44:03,225 --> 03:44:03,826 frequency changes affect 6752 03:44:03,826 --> 03:44:05,327 staffing vehicles, scheduling 6753 03:44:05,327 --> 03:44:07,462 operating cost and recurring 6754 03:44:07,462 --> 03:44:08,264 funding. We will provide the 6755 03:44:08,264 --> 03:44:10,165 commission with the 6756 03:44:10,165 --> 03:44:11,133 information necessary to 6757 03:44:11,133 --> 03:44:11,767 evaluate these options while 6758 03:44:11,767 --> 03:44:12,768 remaining realistic about what 6759 03:44:12,768 --> 03:44:13,336 we can reasonably be 6760 03:44:13,336 --> 03:44:15,736 implemented in the upcoming 6761 03:44:17,640 --> 03:44:18,541 fiscal year. Higgs Beach 6762 03:44:18,541 --> 03:44:20,541 following the city's 6763 03:44:20,608 --> 03:44:21,543 assumption of responsibility 6764 03:44:21,543 --> 03:44:23,179 for hate speech earlier this 6765 03:44:23,179 --> 03:44:23,913 year. A team continues to 6766 03:44:23,913 --> 03:44:24,513 manage the operational 6767 03:44:24,513 --> 03:44:25,514 transition while playing for 6768 03:44:25,514 --> 03:44:26,516 the properties. Long-term 6769 03:44:26,516 --> 03:44:28,916 future at the aforementioned 6770 03:44:29,518 --> 03:44:31,854 hit beach master plan we've 6771 03:44:31,854 --> 03:44:33,122 discussed. So I'll pause on 6772 03:44:33,122 --> 03:44:35,522 that regarding the strategic 6773 03:44:35,558 --> 03:44:36,926 plans. Our strategic plan is 6774 03:44:36,926 --> 03:44:38,294 writing the city's final 6775 03:44:38,294 --> 03:44:39,128 strategic plan will be brought 6776 03:44:39,128 --> 03:44:39,629 forward at the OCTOBER 6777 03:44:39,629 --> 03:44:41,629 commission meeting for 6778 03:44:42,365 --> 03:44:42,932 consideration and approval 6779 03:44:42,932 --> 03:44:45,332 marking the transition from 6780 03:44:46,403 --> 03:44:46,870 planning to implementation. 6781 03:44:46,870 --> 03:44:49,270 The plan Will Connect 6782 03:44:49,272 --> 03:44:49,805 Commission's priorities with 6783 03:44:49,805 --> 03:44:50,807 departmental work plans, 6784 03:44:50,807 --> 03:44:52,807 capital planning, budgeting, 6785 03:44:52,943 --> 03:44:54,477 measurable performance 6786 03:44:54,477 --> 03:44:55,100 indicators and public 6787 03:44:55,100 --> 03:44:57,100 accountability for cause 6788 03:44:57,147 --> 03:44:59,147 remains on infrastructure, 6789 03:45:01,500 --> 03:45:02,251 financial stability, housing, 6790 03:45:02,251 --> 03:45:03,953 climate adaptation and 6791 03:45:03,953 --> 03:45:04,521 Environmental Protection, 6792 03:45:04,521 --> 03:45:05,550 Transportation and Mobility 6793 03:45:05,550 --> 03:45:07,455 and Quality. A municipal 6794 03:45:09,293 --> 03:45:09,826 services. As we transition to 6795 03:45:09,826 --> 03:45:11,826 organizational changes in 6796 03:45:14,464 --> 03:45:16,233 communication. I say AUGUST 6797 03:45:16,233 --> 03:45:16,767 has been a period of 6798 03:45:16,767 --> 03:45:17,267 transition. Our team has 6799 03:45:17,267 --> 03:45:19,303 worked to provide newly 6800 03:45:19,303 --> 03:45:19,903 elected officials with 6801 03:45:19,903 --> 03:45:20,537 orientation, material agenda 6802 03:45:20,537 --> 03:45:22,372 and budget information as well 6803 03:45:22,372 --> 03:45:24,241 as access to our leadership 6804 03:45:24,241 --> 03:45:24,708 team. Our team remains 6805 03:45:24,708 --> 03:45:26,243 committed to working 6806 03:45:26,243 --> 03:45:27,678 collaboratively with every 6807 03:45:27,678 --> 03:45:28,545 member of the commission and 6808 03:45:28,545 --> 03:45:29,790 ensuring each commissioner has 6809 03:45:29,790 --> 03:45:31,479 mission necessary to make 6810 03:45:31,648 --> 03:45:34,480 informed decisions. I am 6811 03:45:34,752 --> 03:45:35,986 pleased to announce that Doug. 6812 03:45:35,986 --> 03:45:37,210 Because the U.S. Posey toe 6813 03:45:37,210 --> 03:45:39,223 will join the city of Key West 6814 03:45:39,223 --> 03:45:42,590 as our new chief building 6815 03:45:42,590 --> 03:45:43,427 official, Doug has more than 6816 03:45:43,427 --> 03:45:44,127 45 years of experience in 6817 03:45:44,127 --> 03:45:44,962 municipal government. 6818 03:45:44,962 --> 03:45:46,970 Construction contracting 6819 03:45:46,970 --> 03:45:48,970 building operations, code 6820 03:45:48,799 --> 03:45:49,966 compliance and construction 6821 03:45:49,966 --> 03:45:51,340 safety management. He has 6822 03:45:51,340 --> 03:45:52,937 completed his transition from 6823 03:45:52,937 --> 03:45:53,504 Collier County and upon 6824 03:45:53,504 --> 03:45:54,939 joining the city will leave 6825 03:45:54,939 --> 03:45:55,940 the building department 6826 03:45:55,940 --> 03:45:57,740 oversee plan, review 6827 03:45:57,740 --> 03:45:57,709 inspections and department 6828 03:45:57,709 --> 03:45:59,770 operations with an emphasis on 6829 03:45:59,770 --> 03:46:00,111 consistent professional 6830 03:46:00,111 --> 03:46:02,113 service in compliance with 6831 03:46:02,113 --> 03:46:03,915 state and local building 6832 03:46:03,915 --> 03:46:05,717 codes. I'm also pleased to 6833 03:46:05,717 --> 03:46:06,650 announce that Brett now will 6834 03:46:06,650 --> 03:46:08,586 be rejoining the city us as 6835 03:46:08,586 --> 03:46:09,821 our new urban Forestry 6836 03:46:09,821 --> 03:46:11,723 manager, Brett brings more 6837 03:46:11,723 --> 03:46:13,591 than 30 years of experience 6838 03:46:13,591 --> 03:46:14,592 and Arbor culture, Urban 6839 03:46:14,592 --> 03:46:16,592 forestry utility vegetation 6840 03:46:17,462 --> 03:46:19,462 management, safety training 6841 03:46:19,598 --> 03:46:21,866 and operations. He is an I s a 6842 03:46:21,866 --> 03:46:22,333 certified arborist and is how 6843 03:46:22,333 --> 03:46:22,867 leadership positions 6844 03:46:22,867 --> 03:46:23,735 throughout the tree care 6845 03:46:23,735 --> 03:46:25,569 industry with a strong 6846 03:46:25,569 --> 03:46:26,304 background in managing field 6847 03:46:26,304 --> 03:46:26,805 operations, developing teams 6848 03:46:26,805 --> 03:46:28,273 and promoting safe and 6849 03:46:28,273 --> 03:46:29,207 reasonable tree care 6850 03:46:29,207 --> 03:46:30,976 practices. We are excited to 6851 03:46:30,976 --> 03:46:33,278 welcome Brett, back to the 6852 03:46:33,278 --> 03:46:34,913 city and look forward to the 6853 03:46:34,913 --> 03:46:35,881 experience. Leadership and 6854 03:46:35,881 --> 03:46:36,448 practical perspective. He will 6855 03:46:36,448 --> 03:46:39,448 bring to our Urban Forestry 6856 03:46:40,152 --> 03:46:41,386 program in community. Okay. 6857 03:46:41,386 --> 03:46:43,254 Diesel plan an ampitheater 6858 03:46:43,254 --> 03:46:44,256 rfps. The city recently 6859 03:46:44,256 --> 03:46:46,256 completed solicitation process 6860 03:46:47,392 --> 03:46:47,860 related to the diesel plan, an 6861 03:46:47,860 --> 03:46:48,427 ampitheater projects. 6862 03:46:48,427 --> 03:46:50,620 Unfortunately, both rfp is 6863 03:46:50,620 --> 03:46:52,130 close without receiving any 6864 03:46:52,130 --> 03:46:52,964 proposals. While the lack of 6865 03:46:52,964 --> 03:46:54,199 response is disappointing, it 6866 03:46:54,199 --> 03:46:56,680 provides an opportunity for 6867 03:46:56,680 --> 03:46:56,769 staff to reassess the scope 6868 03:46:56,769 --> 03:46:58,400 structure and market 6869 03:46:58,400 --> 03:46:58,437 conditions associated with 6870 03:46:58,437 --> 03:46:59,300 each project before 6871 03:46:59,300 --> 03:47:01,300 determining the appropriate 6872 03:47:02,208 --> 03:47:03,242 path forward. Our team is 6873 03:47:03,242 --> 03:47:05,177 reviewing both solicitations 6874 03:47:05,177 --> 03:47:05,677 and will be bringing 6875 03:47:05,677 --> 03:47:06,211 recommendations to the 6876 03:47:06,211 --> 03:47:07,279 commission at the OCTOBER 6877 03:47:07,279 --> 03:47:08,447 meeting for consideration 6878 03:47:08,447 --> 03:47:09,114 direction. Our goal is to 6879 03:47:09,114 --> 03:47:11,149 ensure that the next steps are 6880 03:47:11,149 --> 03:47:13,149 practical financially 6881 03:47:13,419 --> 03:47:14,753 responsible and position to 6882 03:47:14,753 --> 03:47:15,353 generate meaningful market 6883 03:47:15,353 --> 03:47:15,988 interest will advance in the 6884 03:47:15,988 --> 03:47:18,388 city's long-term objective for 6885 03:47:18,624 --> 03:47:20,259 these important properties. 6886 03:47:20,259 --> 03:47:20,760 And then looking ahead, 6887 03:47:20,760 --> 03:47:22,428 finally out, I want to 6888 03:47:22,428 --> 03:47:23,729 recognize our and our 6889 03:47:23,729 --> 03:47:24,297 teammates the past year has 6890 03:47:24,297 --> 03:47:27,297 required a great deal from 6891 03:47:27,933 --> 03:47:29,933 this organization. Through 6892 03:47:31,300 --> 03:47:32,238 leadership. Debating budgeting 6893 03:47:32,238 --> 03:47:32,772 process. Major infrastructure 6894 03:47:32,772 --> 03:47:33,239 initiatives, Higgs be 6895 03:47:33,239 --> 03:47:34,907 transition grant and 6896 03:47:34,907 --> 03:47:35,875 legislative efforts. Emergency 6897 03:47:35,875 --> 03:47:37,875 preparedness and daily 6898 03:47:38,177 --> 03:47:39,479 responsibilities to provide a 6899 03:47:39,479 --> 03:47:40,790 municipal service. Employees 6900 03:47:40,790 --> 03:47:42,115 have continue to show up and 6901 03:47:42,115 --> 03:47:43,783 serve this community. Much has 6902 03:47:43,783 --> 03:47:45,885 been accomplished over the 6903 03:47:45,885 --> 03:47:48,200 last year and there will be 6904 03:47:48,200 --> 03:47:49,220 more work ahead as we enter 6905 03:47:49,220 --> 03:47:50,156 into new fiscal year. Our 6906 03:47:50,156 --> 03:47:51,257 responsibility remains clear. 6907 03:47:51,257 --> 03:47:52,125 Provide reliable service, 6908 03:47:52,125 --> 03:47:53,827 protect the city's financial 6909 03:47:53,827 --> 03:47:55,128 position. Invest in 6910 03:47:55,128 --> 03:47:56,763 infrastructure, pursue outside 6911 03:47:56,763 --> 03:47:57,764 funding, support our work 6912 03:47:57,764 --> 03:48:00,164 force and remain accountable 6913 03:48:00,433 --> 03:48:01,401 to the residents we serve. So 6914 03:48:01,401 --> 03:48:02,836 once again, thank you for the 6915 03:48:02,836 --> 03:48:03,403 opportunity to serve you and 6916 03:48:03,403 --> 03:48:04,538 how entertaining and answer 6917 03:48:04,538 --> 03:48:05,639 any questions you MAY have 6918 03:48:05,639 --> 03:48:08,639 bring it back to the 6919 03:48:10,843 --> 03:48:11,444 commission. Any questions? 6920 03:48:11,444 --> 03:48:13,844 Commissioner Castillo, I just 6921 03:48:22,589 --> 03:48:25,593 want to say. Job well I don't 6922 03:48:25,593 --> 03:48:26,160 feel like we operating on a 6923 03:48:26,160 --> 03:48:29,160 shoestring. I feel like we 6924 03:48:30,597 --> 03:48:31,432 operate non get in the head. 6925 03:48:31,432 --> 03:48:32,320 >> I think we got this more 6926 03:48:32,320 --> 03:48:35,320 than half of this commission 6927 03:48:35,903 --> 03:48:36,537 real well. We did the business 6928 03:48:36,537 --> 03:48:39,473 that we were supposed to do in 6929 03:48:39,473 --> 03:48:40,407 the report very precise. And I 6930 03:48:40,407 --> 03:48:44,607 want to thank Mary and u n 6931 03:48:46,113 --> 03:48:47,114 right. Commissioner Rusty. 6932 03:48:47,114 --> 03:48:49,514 >> I echo commissioner of 6933 03:48:51,318 --> 03:48:52,190 SEALs comments, but the main 6934 03:48:52,190 --> 03:48:52,620 issue, couple questions. I 6935 03:48:52,620 --> 03:48:55,990 want to prolong this so much. 6936 03:48:55,990 --> 03:48:56,724 But the desal plant. Do we 6937 03:48:56,724 --> 03:48:59,724 have any plans for that? 6938 03:49:00,527 --> 03:49:01,329 What's going to go down there 6939 03:49:01,329 --> 03:49:02,497 all that bricks that bricks 6940 03:49:02,497 --> 03:49:05,633 are valuable and we could get 6941 03:49:05,633 --> 03:49:08,469 figure out a way to reuse them 6942 03:49:08,469 --> 03:49:09,700 or what you know, I won said 6943 03:49:09,700 --> 03:49:12,240 just 3 know I wanted to make 6944 03:49:12,240 --> 03:49:14,842 that a conference center. But 6945 03:49:14,842 --> 03:49:16,845 I think he's too far gone to 6946 03:49:16,845 --> 03:49:17,945 do that. It would made a great 6947 03:49:17,945 --> 03:49:19,945 conference center and 6948 03:49:22,850 --> 03:49:23,784 lucrative put the Bahamian 6949 03:49:23,784 --> 03:49:24,318 experience are everything's 6950 03:49:24,318 --> 03:49:27,918 you out. Got because I it 6951 03:49:28,155 --> 03:49:28,890 would have been good. So what 6952 03:49:28,890 --> 03:49:30,925 we have planned for that and 6953 03:49:30,925 --> 03:49:32,560 then I want move on to the 6954 03:49:32,560 --> 03:49:33,610 ampitheater. Please, MADAM, 6955 03:49:33,610 --> 03:49:35,630 MR. Maher, I don't mind 6956 03:49:35,630 --> 03:49:36,164 echoing that there. 6957 03:49:36,164 --> 03:49:39,164 >> But I don't think the 6958 03:49:39,768 --> 03:49:41,703 community had a voice in the 6959 03:49:41,703 --> 03:49:43,705 rfp. That when now this last 6960 03:49:43,705 --> 03:49:44,606 time around? And think that 6961 03:49:44,606 --> 03:49:48,806 they got a concise is of what 6962 03:49:50,450 --> 03:49:52,680 they want to see there. I know 6963 03:49:52,680 --> 03:49:55,884 we in tight of an area there 6964 03:49:55,884 --> 03:49:58,253 of not only parking, but that 6965 03:49:58,253 --> 03:49:58,786 was supposed to be out 6966 03:49:58,786 --> 03:50:00,786 commercial corridor for, 6967 03:50:02,240 --> 03:50:04,759 though, for the village if you 6968 03:50:04,759 --> 03:50:06,595 just been sitting idle, I 6969 03:50:06,595 --> 03:50:07,162 don't. And I think with this 6970 03:50:07,162 --> 03:50:10,432 new direction we go in the 6971 03:50:10,432 --> 03:50:10,899 cra. I'm almost certainly 6972 03:50:10,899 --> 03:50:13,535 going to come up with 6973 03:50:13,535 --> 03:50:14,360 something that's going to be 6974 03:50:14,360 --> 03:50:16,436 comparable to what the 6975 03:50:17,506 --> 03:50:19,508 community needs are. And and 6976 03:50:19,508 --> 03:50:21,908 some precedents with their 6977 03:50:23,913 --> 03:50:25,314 history of how all that. Space 6978 03:50:25,314 --> 03:50:25,881 you're in maybe took on that. 6979 03:50:25,881 --> 03:50:28,751 Maybe that's what it would 6980 03:50:28,751 --> 03:50:29,318 need to take. But I think with 6981 03:50:29,318 --> 03:50:31,153 this commission here, we're 6982 03:50:31,153 --> 03:50:34,489 going to be able to make 6983 03:50:34,489 --> 03:50:35,357 something happen. Thank City 6984 03:50:35,357 --> 03:50:38,357 manager again trying the best 6985 03:50:40,263 --> 03:50:41,430 you can to get what we need 6986 03:50:41,430 --> 03:50:45,300 done But I think we've got 6987 03:50:45,702 --> 03:50:46,235 spate operation now know. A 6988 03:50:46,235 --> 03:50:47,402 direction we go in and we 6989 03:50:47,402 --> 03:50:49,572 going to be able to come up 6990 03:50:49,572 --> 03:50:50,640 with something getting back to 6991 03:50:50,640 --> 03:50:52,410 Commissioner Ross these 6992 03:50:52,410 --> 03:50:55,410 questions, I think, MR. Maher, 6993 03:50:55,244 --> 03:50:56,312 so I'm sorry, commissioner is. 6994 03:50:56,312 --> 03:50:59,215 >> Yeah. Answer that. Want to 6995 03:50:59,215 --> 03:50:59,782 you want me to wait? Well, 6996 03:50:59,782 --> 03:51:00,416 good news or air. And then 6997 03:51:00,416 --> 03:51:01,170 look, why would do it? I'm not 6998 03:51:01,170 --> 03:51:03,190 gonna answer. It was going to 6999 03:51:03,190 --> 03:51:05,419 answer your question. Any 7000 03:51:06,789 --> 03:51:08,692 thought being given to what? 7001 03:51:08,692 --> 03:51:09,959 >> You know, the the desal 7002 03:51:09,959 --> 03:51:10,594 plant is shot. I went down 7003 03:51:10,594 --> 03:51:11,360 there. Look that I don't think 7004 03:51:11,360 --> 03:51:14,360 you really do anything. It's 7005 03:51:15,598 --> 03:51:16,633 too bad. But 7006 03:51:16,633 --> 03:51:18,201 >> is there anything being 7007 03:51:18,201 --> 03:51:18,835 given to the film? Don't think 7008 03:51:18,835 --> 03:51:21,570 stupid those Berkshire worth a 7009 03:51:21,570 --> 03:51:22,505 lot of my. 7010 03:51:22,505 --> 03:51:23,840 >> I don't know that we should 7011 03:51:23,840 --> 03:51:27,440 maybe look at that. Whoever we 7012 03:51:28,440 --> 03:51:29,779 contract it tear down. And 7013 03:51:29,779 --> 03:51:30,313 then you can you give us 7014 03:51:30,313 --> 03:51:32,713 report on campus either. 7015 03:51:33,783 --> 03:51:34,784 That's the you know, should be 7016 03:51:34,784 --> 03:51:37,784 a moneymaker for it's it's 7017 03:51:38,121 --> 03:51:41,121 there's nothing going on. So 7018 03:51:41,958 --> 03:51:42,559 with what got going for that. 7019 03:51:42,559 --> 03:51:46,159 >> MR. Maher see if you think 7020 03:51:46,530 --> 03:51:47,640 so. Let me first start with 7021 03:51:47,640 --> 03:51:50,640 the diesel plan and then 7022 03:51:50,700 --> 03:51:52,669 transition to the ampitheater. 7023 03:51:52,669 --> 03:51:53,704 Our team brought a 7024 03:51:53,704 --> 03:51:54,805 recommendation after 7025 03:51:54,805 --> 03:51:55,973 consideration of an assessment 7026 03:51:55,973 --> 03:51:57,408 for the diesel plant about 7027 03:51:57,408 --> 03:51:59,243 putting a roof on there and 7028 03:51:59,243 --> 03:51:59,809 restore it. So we we had a 7029 03:51:59,809 --> 03:52:01,578 grant. We went through this 7030 03:52:01,578 --> 03:52:02,613 process. It was determined 7031 03:52:02,613 --> 03:52:05,613 that the structure could not 7032 03:52:05,650 --> 03:52:06,717 support the cat 5 or required. 7033 03:52:06,717 --> 03:52:07,251 So then our team brought in a 7034 03:52:07,251 --> 03:52:09,651 recommendation to demo in 7035 03:52:10,188 --> 03:52:11,155 white box of location. That 7036 03:52:11,155 --> 03:52:13,690 was paused and we were 7037 03:52:13,690 --> 03:52:15,492 instructed to try one more 7038 03:52:15,492 --> 03:52:16,600 opportunity through an rfp 7039 03:52:16,600 --> 03:52:19,463 process or a p 3 process to 7040 03:52:19,463 --> 03:52:20,565 bring in a partner. We have 7041 03:52:20,565 --> 03:52:22,800 concluded that so our plan 7042 03:52:22,800 --> 03:52:24,902 would be to revert back to the 7043 03:52:24,902 --> 03:52:26,437 original plan, which is we 7044 03:52:26,437 --> 03:52:27,572 believe that we need to white 7045 03:52:27,572 --> 03:52:29,730 box that location and then 7046 03:52:29,730 --> 03:52:30,274 work with potential partners 7047 03:52:30,274 --> 03:52:30,941 moving forward. Now what we do 7048 03:52:30,941 --> 03:52:32,844 with the engines and the 7049 03:52:32,844 --> 03:52:34,846 bricks and things of that 7050 03:52:34,846 --> 03:52:36,781 nature, those all could be 7051 03:52:36,781 --> 03:52:39,217 baked into our path forward. 7052 03:52:39,217 --> 03:52:42,817 But I I would recommend in 7053 03:52:43,187 --> 03:52:43,821 OCTOBER anticipate action item 7054 03:52:43,821 --> 03:52:44,856 regarding demo because if we 7055 03:52:44,856 --> 03:52:47,580 choose to do nothing, what 7056 03:52:47,580 --> 03:52:48,793 we're really doing is about So 7057 03:52:48,793 --> 03:52:51,963 we would like to do something 7058 03:52:51,963 --> 03:52:52,730 ok? So that answers the desal 7059 03:52:52,730 --> 03:52:53,365 plant doesn't a serious are 7060 03:52:53,365 --> 03:52:56,965 the bricks and the engines. We 7061 03:52:57,680 --> 03:52:58,236 could have a plan for those as 7062 03:52:58,236 --> 03:53:00,371 it pertains of Ampitheater. We 7063 03:53:00,371 --> 03:53:01,205 had a transition point. Rams 7064 03:53:01,205 --> 03:53:01,773 said was the existing 7065 03:53:01,773 --> 03:53:02,974 contractor that was running 7066 03:53:02,974 --> 03:53:05,974 the ampitheater for the city 7067 03:53:07,345 --> 03:53:10,345 and they have accident that. 7068 03:53:10,415 --> 03:53:11,683 So instead taking over the 7069 03:53:11,683 --> 03:53:14,286 running of the ampitheater, we 7070 03:53:14,286 --> 03:53:15,420 actually went out for an rfp, 7071 03:53:15,420 --> 03:53:18,390 but that also did not provide 7072 03:53:18,390 --> 03:53:18,991 any solicitation answers. So 7073 03:53:18,991 --> 03:53:19,558 right now our recommendation 7074 03:53:19,558 --> 03:53:22,995 would be the city. Take it 7075 03:53:22,995 --> 03:53:25,264 over. And we could continue to 7076 03:53:25,264 --> 03:53:26,599 work on what we're doing 7077 03:53:26,599 --> 03:53:28,267 regarding capital improvement 7078 03:53:28,267 --> 03:53:31,360 projects there. As you all 7079 03:53:31,360 --> 03:53:31,704 tell us. But the plan would be 7080 03:53:31,704 --> 03:53:32,171 for the city take control of 7081 03:53:32,171 --> 03:53:34,571 the management of the 7082 03:53:36,750 --> 03:53:38,750 Ampitheater. 7083 03:53:40,780 --> 03:53:42,981 >> Ok, Trust But should give 7084 03:53:42,981 --> 03:53:44,249 me an answer that know. But 7085 03:53:44,249 --> 03:53:47,753 Leno's and we all know. All 7086 03:53:47,753 --> 03:53:48,687 right. MR. Maher, turn back to 7087 03:53:48,687 --> 03:53:51,123 you, ok? Vice Mayor thank you, 7088 03:53:51,123 --> 03:53:55,323 MR. Mayor. I was going to talk 7089 03:53:57,300 --> 03:53:57,630 about the ampitheater and the 7090 03:53:57,630 --> 03:53:58,364 lack of response that we got 7091 03:53:58,364 --> 03:54:01,667 for the impetus eater. And I 7092 03:54:01,667 --> 03:54:02,835 think part of the reason I 7093 03:54:02,835 --> 03:54:05,171 think part of the reason we 7094 03:54:05,171 --> 03:54:07,571 didn't get any responses 7095 03:54:08,541 --> 03:54:09,800 because of the infrastructure. 7096 03:54:09,800 --> 03:54:11,800 Improvements that are 7097 03:54:12,278 --> 03:54:14,647 necessary. And I just I know 7098 03:54:14,647 --> 03:54:17,647 we spoken. Brian, we spoken 7099 03:54:21,855 --> 03:54:23,560 about it in there is no money 7100 03:54:23,560 --> 03:54:26,560 in the proposed budget over 7101 03:54:26,993 --> 03:54:27,627 the last time I saw anyway. 4 7102 03:54:27,627 --> 03:54:30,627 improvements there. And I know 7103 03:54:31,310 --> 03:54:31,664 I'm I'm just hoping that 7104 03:54:31,664 --> 03:54:32,232 somehow some way, whether it's 7105 03:54:32,232 --> 03:54:35,832 our money or grant money or 7106 03:54:35,869 --> 03:54:36,870 whoever tdc money. There has 7107 03:54:36,870 --> 03:54:40,740 to be, in my opinion, we have 7108 03:54:40,740 --> 03:54:41,741 to invest money there in order 7109 03:54:41,741 --> 03:54:44,978 for that to end up being 7110 03:54:44,978 --> 03:54:45,712 successful and make money for 7111 03:54:45,712 --> 03:54:47,815 I not saying you don't agree. 7112 03:54:47,815 --> 03:54:51,852 I think you agree. So I'm just 7113 03:54:51,852 --> 03:54:52,486 not sure. The commission, I 7114 03:54:52,486 --> 03:54:56,686 guess we have to tell. We have 7115 03:54:57,658 --> 03:55:00,658 to. Known to majority anywhere 7116 03:55:00,728 --> 03:55:03,463 guessed that we need to put. 7117 03:55:03,463 --> 03:55:06,567 In in there. For to be 7118 03:55:06,567 --> 03:55:09,567 successful. To want someone to 7119 03:55:12,806 --> 03:55:13,341 come in and operating. MR. 7120 03:55:13,341 --> 03:55:15,741 Maher commissioner or I'm 7121 03:55:16,643 --> 03:55:17,177 sorry, MR. Vice Mayor don't 7122 03:55:17,177 --> 03:55:17,779 disagree. I believe we've 7123 03:55:17,779 --> 03:55:20,179 entrusted with our strategic 7124 03:55:20,447 --> 03:55:21,449 plan inside that strategic 7125 03:55:21,449 --> 03:55:25,490 plan and inside our budget is 7126 03:55:25,486 --> 03:55:26,887 our cip 5 year plan. You have 7127 03:55:26,887 --> 03:55:27,489 every ability as a commission 7128 03:55:27,489 --> 03:55:30,758 to say we're at that and make 7129 03:55:30,758 --> 03:55:32,893 that a priority right now. 7130 03:55:32,893 --> 03:55:34,610 That's not what we received. 7131 03:55:34,610 --> 03:55:35,960 So until we receive that 7132 03:55:35,960 --> 03:55:35,897 direction, we're going to 7133 03:55:35,897 --> 03:55:36,598 pursue with what we believe 7134 03:55:36,598 --> 03:55:38,660 are the most significant 7135 03:55:38,660 --> 03:55:38,333 projects. That's why we have 7136 03:55:38,333 --> 03:55:40,333 the full. 7137 03:55:40,835 --> 03:55:41,703 >> Five-year cip plan. So 7138 03:55:41,703 --> 03:55:43,700 again, our team is ready, 7139 03:55:43,700 --> 03:55:45,470 willing able to support 7140 03:55:52,146 --> 03:55:52,714 direction upon receiving it. 7141 03:55:52,714 --> 03:55:54,714 >> Commissioner Haskell yet 7142 03:55:55,183 --> 03:55:55,817 question on the report. 7143 03:55:55,817 --> 03:55:56,418 Please. Un un asked that we 7144 03:55:56,418 --> 03:55:58,486 have a new chief building 7145 03:55:58,486 --> 03:56:01,486 official which is great. I 7146 03:56:02,724 --> 03:56:04,920 think in your last report, you 7147 03:56:04,920 --> 03:56:05,327 mention that we were starting 7148 03:56:05,327 --> 03:56:07,727 to do virtual inspections. 7149 03:56:08,863 --> 03:56:10,799 How's that going? MR. Vice 7150 03:56:10,799 --> 03:56:11,299 Mayor Commissioner Haskell, 7151 03:56:11,299 --> 03:56:13,668 thank you again for the 7152 03:56:13,668 --> 03:56:14,569 question. What we're doing is 7153 03:56:14,569 --> 03:56:16,569 we're entertaining the 7154 03:56:16,905 --> 03:56:17,172 policies and platforms 7155 03:56:17,172 --> 03:56:19,172 required. 7156 03:56:19,808 --> 03:56:21,900 >> To bring forward the 7157 03:56:21,900 --> 03:56:21,543 possibility of doing virtual 7158 03:56:21,543 --> 03:56:24,543 specs and also not really 7159 03:56:24,913 --> 03:56:26,682 doing yet. Not rate you that 7160 03:56:26,682 --> 03:56:27,782 but wanted to make sure that 7161 03:56:27,782 --> 03:56:28,751 we're excited about the 7162 03:56:28,751 --> 03:56:29,719 possibility of doing it. We've 7163 03:56:29,719 --> 03:56:30,652 actually of partnered with 7164 03:56:30,652 --> 03:56:32,188 some of the cities that 7165 03:56:32,188 --> 03:56:34,188 actually incorporate that 7166 03:56:34,589 --> 03:56:35,390 right now. We believe that 7167 03:56:35,390 --> 03:56:38,990 it's in the best interest to 7168 03:56:39,461 --> 03:56:41,230 have the new cbo land evaluate 7169 03:56:41,230 --> 03:56:42,397 that and then see how we could 7170 03:56:42,397 --> 03:56:44,400 bake that into our current 7171 03:56:44,400 --> 03:56:46,269 processes. But I believe 7172 03:56:46,269 --> 03:56:47,336 you'll wake up in a future in 7173 03:56:47,336 --> 03:56:48,360 which that is going to be 7174 03:56:48,360 --> 03:56:48,504 possible. We just need to have 7175 03:56:48,504 --> 03:56:51,504 some fun to for that 7176 03:56:52,675 --> 03:56:55,750 clarification ma'am. It looks 7177 03:56:55,645 --> 03:56:56,579 like the next item. MADAM 7178 03:56:56,579 --> 03:56:57,414 Clerk, full. 7179 03:56:57,414 --> 03:56:59,814 >> Excuse me, MISTER Mayor. 7180 03:57:00,216 --> 03:57:01,116 Commissioner us had to Brian's 7181 03:57:01,116 --> 03:57:03,516 thing. We attended workshop 7182 03:57:04,787 --> 03:57:05,354 here yesterday morning. And it 7183 03:57:05,354 --> 03:57:05,821 was a very important thing 7184 03:57:05,821 --> 03:57:08,821 that came out of that 7185 03:57:09,693 --> 03:57:11,928 workshop. Food public. The 7186 03:57:11,928 --> 03:57:13,830 contractor can get their own 7187 03:57:13,830 --> 03:57:16,699 apartments and do their own 7188 03:57:16,699 --> 03:57:18,699 inspections. Major change 7189 03:57:19,503 --> 03:57:20,503 private make bride the 7190 03:57:20,503 --> 03:57:21,104 inspection. That's a major 7191 03:57:21,104 --> 03:57:24,704 change in what's going on in 7192 03:57:26,175 --> 03:57:27,110 the building department. Just 7193 03:57:27,110 --> 03:57:29,345 so, you know that take the 7194 03:57:29,345 --> 03:57:30,346 tests become private provider, 7195 03:57:30,346 --> 03:57:32,715 even if you're the contractor, 7196 03:57:32,715 --> 03:57:37,515 you can do it. Is that what I 7197 03:57:38,154 --> 03:57:38,755 heard? 7198 03:57:38,755 --> 03:57:39,356 >> Yeah. Fact that the House 7199 03:57:39,356 --> 03:57:40,958 bill that makes all the major 7200 03:57:40,958 --> 03:57:42,659 changes with regard to the 7201 03:57:42,659 --> 03:57:43,259 building department, you know, 7202 03:57:43,259 --> 03:57:45,562 be good for the commission to 7203 03:57:45,562 --> 03:57:46,797 have a presentation with 7204 03:57:46,797 --> 03:57:48,898 respect to all of the time 7205 03:57:48,898 --> 03:57:51,298 frame changes for permitting 7206 03:57:51,635 --> 03:57:52,102 for, you know, there's some 7207 03:57:52,102 --> 03:57:52,702 major changes changes 7208 03:57:52,702 --> 03:57:54,138 happening in the law for the 7209 03:57:54,138 --> 03:57:56,206 building department. So I 7210 03:57:56,206 --> 03:57:56,806 think it be great if we had a 7211 03:57:56,806 --> 03:57:59,206 the presentation, an upcoming 7212 03:58:05,820 --> 03:58:05,683 meeting. Great. Bravo to hire 7213 03:58:05,683 --> 03:58:07,317 new chief killed an officer. 7214 03:58:07,317 --> 03:58:08,985 It seems like he's going to be 7215 03:58:08,985 --> 03:58:11,385 >> Nasa our communities. Hats 7216 03:58:11,822 --> 03:58:13,458 off to you. But really that 7217 03:58:13,458 --> 03:58:16,159 was the most And it really 7218 03:58:16,159 --> 03:58:16,460 shocked when I heard that 7219 03:58:16,460 --> 03:58:17,962 yesterday. 7220 03:58:17,962 --> 03:58:19,796 >> There's a lot of lot of new 7221 03:58:19,796 --> 03:58:23,396 laws and in the Okay. MADAM 7222 03:58:25,503 --> 03:58:26,360 Clerk, City Attorney's report. 7223 03:58:26,360 --> 03:58:28,360 >> Good afternoon, MISTER 7224 03:58:29,140 --> 03:58:31,540 Mayor and commissioners. Post. 7225 03:58:31,876 --> 03:58:33,978 We did put us with the agenda, 7226 03:58:33,978 --> 03:58:34,579 the breakdown of the expenses 7227 03:58:34,579 --> 03:58:37,548 of the city attorney's office 7228 03:58:37,548 --> 03:58:40,548 for outside counsel. The total 7229 03:58:41,852 --> 03:58:42,353 amount for the 7230 03:58:42,353 --> 03:58:44,753 >> before the month of 7231 03:58:45,657 --> 03:58:48,359 SEPTEMBER, so most likely for 7232 03:58:48,359 --> 03:58:50,759 the month of AUGUST 30,009. 24 7233 03:58:53,865 --> 03:58:54,398 breaks down again. Why Cerota? 7234 03:58:54,398 --> 03:58:56,398 $12,350 that some outside 7235 03:58:58,350 --> 03:59:00,872 labor counsel that we utilize 7236 03:59:00,872 --> 03:59:02,872 downs her bill $12,474. 7237 03:59:03,808 --> 03:59:05,877 Johnson and slow outside 7238 03:59:05,877 --> 03:59:06,444 counsel that we do have for 7239 03:59:06,444 --> 03:59:07,879 litigation. Most of this is 7240 03:59:07,879 --> 03:59:09,414 normally paid through our 7241 03:59:09,414 --> 03:59:10,382 insurance fund insurance does 7242 03:59:10,382 --> 03:59:13,382 not cover this specific matter 7243 03:59:14,285 --> 03:59:14,886 because of allegations that 7244 03:59:14,886 --> 03:59:15,887 are alleged in the complaint. 7245 03:59:15,887 --> 03:59:18,289 So they don't cover us on that 7246 03:59:18,289 --> 03:59:20,689 one. That's $3,550. And then 7247 03:59:22,127 --> 03:59:24,563 the state of Florida handles 7248 03:59:24,563 --> 03:59:28,233 right now are any of cases. So 7249 03:59:28,233 --> 03:59:30,669 for them, that's $2,550 as you 7250 03:59:30,669 --> 03:59:32,804 all are where we are holding a 7251 03:59:32,804 --> 03:59:33,705 closed session on a specific 7252 03:59:33,705 --> 03:59:35,574 litigation case. It was 7253 03:59:35,574 --> 03:59:37,610 supposed to be on SEPTEMBER 7254 03:59:37,610 --> 03:59:38,577 23rd due to some noticing 7255 03:59:38,577 --> 03:59:39,912 issues. We have to hold that 7256 03:59:39,912 --> 03:59:41,647 on SEPTEMBER 22nd 2026. I will 7257 03:59:41,647 --> 03:59:45,247 just announced that now as a 7258 03:59:45,252 --> 03:59:46,850 requirement. Notice of closed 7259 03:59:46,850 --> 03:59:48,120 attorney client session of the 7260 03:59:48,120 --> 03:59:49,988 city of Key West City 7261 03:59:49,988 --> 03:59:51,290 Commission. Pursuant to 7262 03:59:51,290 --> 03:59:53,290 Florida Statutes section 2. 7263 03:59:54,160 --> 03:59:55,460 86.0 1, one, subsection 8. The 7264 03:59:55,460 --> 03:59:56,763 key West City Commission will 7265 03:59:56,763 --> 03:59:58,631 hold a closed attorney client 7266 03:59:58,631 --> 04:00:01,310 session commencing at one 45 7267 04:00:01,868 --> 04:00:02,801 pm on Tuesday, SEPTEMBER 22nd 7268 04:00:02,801 --> 04:00:05,201 2026. At City Hall second 7269 04:00:06,305 --> 04:00:07,340 floor conference room located 7270 04:00:07,340 --> 04:00:09,740 at 1300 White Street, key 7271 04:00:09,942 --> 04:00:11,277 West, Florida, 3, 3, 0, 4, 0, 7272 04:00:11,277 --> 04:00:12,579 The purpose of the session is 7273 04:00:12,579 --> 04:00:14,979 to discuss litigations styled 7274 04:00:15,482 --> 04:00:19,820 Nicole Stone at all for city 7275 04:00:20,987 --> 04:00:22,455 of q s case number 2026. Cb, 7276 04:00:22,455 --> 04:00:23,560 1, 0, 0, 4, 0, Martinez. The 7277 04:00:23,560 --> 04:00:25,124 meeting shall be confined to 7278 04:00:25,124 --> 04:00:25,992 settlement negotiations and 7279 04:00:25,992 --> 04:00:26,560 strategy. Discussions. The 7280 04:00:26,560 --> 04:00:27,995 only person is permitted to 7281 04:00:27,995 --> 04:00:29,930 attend the closed session. Our 7282 04:00:29,930 --> 04:00:31,765 members of the City Commission 7283 04:00:31,765 --> 04:00:33,666 city manager Bryan Burrough. 7284 04:00:33,666 --> 04:00:36,569 So city and downs chief 7285 04:00:36,569 --> 04:00:37,170 Assistant city attorney 7286 04:00:37,170 --> 04:00:39,710 Kendall Harden, Hudson, Gill 7287 04:00:39,710 --> 04:00:39,673 Esquire and a court reporter. 7288 04:00:39,673 --> 04:00:43,209 And that's all we have. Thank 7289 04:00:43,209 --> 04:00:43,744 you. Bringing it back to the 7290 04:00:43,744 --> 04:00:45,744 commission. Me questions, 7291 04:00:46,179 --> 04:00:48,579 comments anything actually MR. 7292 04:00:49,649 --> 04:00:50,284 Maher, my apologies. Just a 7293 04:00:50,284 --> 04:00:53,284 keep everyone updated rules to 7294 04:00:56,423 --> 04:00:57,457 believe it was 2 weeks ago the 7295 04:00:57,457 --> 04:00:58,391 county attorney Bob shoulder 7296 04:00:58,391 --> 04:00:59,193 that all attorneys together 7297 04:00:59,193 --> 04:01:01,193 throughout the throughout 7298 04:01:01,895 --> 04:01:02,596 Monroe County to start 7299 04:01:02,596 --> 04:01:03,297 discussions regarding 7300 04:01:03,297 --> 04:01:04,164 potential ordinances that 7301 04:01:04,164 --> 04:01:06,564 everyone wants to see 7302 04:01:08,350 --> 04:01:08,669 regarding e-bikes there was a 7303 04:01:08,669 --> 04:01:10,771 representative of Weiser wrote 7304 04:01:10,771 --> 04:01:11,505 a there that did discuss a lot 7305 04:01:11,505 --> 04:01:14,442 of their research. They have 7306 04:01:14,442 --> 04:01:15,275 done. I will say some of it 7307 04:01:15,275 --> 04:01:15,842 seemed a little disappointing 7308 04:01:15,842 --> 04:01:18,312 on things that we couldn't 7309 04:01:18,312 --> 04:01:21,312 force as a municipality. We 7310 04:01:22,182 --> 04:01:24,451 are regrouping again. Next 7311 04:01:24,451 --> 04:01:25,186 Thursday at 04:00pm to start 7312 04:01:25,186 --> 04:01:26,454 discussing a little more of 7313 04:01:26,454 --> 04:01:27,540 what we can do and how he'd 7314 04:01:27,540 --> 04:01:29,290 like to see. But I just want 7315 04:01:29,290 --> 04:01:30,425 to keep you updated on that. 7316 04:01:30,425 --> 04:01:30,992 >> Funny you mention that. 7317 04:01:30,992 --> 04:01:32,927 That's my one item to talk 7318 04:01:32,927 --> 04:01:35,327 about under City Attorney 7319 04:01:36,970 --> 04:01:38,133 report. I was wondering if I 7320 04:01:38,133 --> 04:01:38,866 smear lead might be interested 7321 04:01:38,866 --> 04:01:39,433 in taking this on. I know you 7322 04:01:39,433 --> 04:01:42,433 are very interested in the 7323 04:01:44,139 --> 04:01:44,772 e-bike. Situation and I don't 7324 04:01:44,772 --> 04:01:45,206 I think it be good if we had a 7325 04:01:45,206 --> 04:01:47,606 point person on the 7326 04:01:50,211 --> 04:01:52,480 commission. That help along 7327 04:01:52,480 --> 04:01:53,140 the e-bike ordinance 7328 04:01:53,140 --> 04:01:54,982 particularly with the law 7329 04:01:54,982 --> 04:01:56,417 enforcement background. I 7330 04:01:56,417 --> 04:01:58,817 would really appreciate advice 7331 04:01:59,200 --> 04:02:00,455 merely if you would take take 7332 04:02:00,455 --> 04:02:01,355 ownership of this because as 7333 04:02:01,355 --> 04:02:03,892 long he takes an e-bike to the 7334 04:02:03,892 --> 04:02:05,260 media that's going how and I 7335 04:02:05,260 --> 04:02:09,226 will give a lot of the warning 7336 04:02:10,298 --> 04:02:11,499 tonight. But it's very it's 7337 04:02:11,499 --> 04:02:12,667 very interesting that the that 7338 04:02:12,667 --> 04:02:13,435 the city of marathon and the 7339 04:02:13,435 --> 04:02:15,470 county and the city are all 7340 04:02:15,470 --> 04:02:16,710 looking at simultaneously and 7341 04:02:16,710 --> 04:02:17,339 hopefully coming up with some 7342 04:02:17,339 --> 04:02:18,373 really good new thing. So, 7343 04:02:18,373 --> 04:02:21,373 yeah, okay. Anything else in 7344 04:02:21,843 --> 04:02:22,143 Oak Commissioner Haskell? Yes, 7345 04:02:22,143 --> 04:02:24,143 thank you. 7346 04:02:24,345 --> 04:02:25,247 >> I commissioner comments. I 7347 04:02:25,247 --> 04:02:29,447 would like to say that I am 7348 04:02:30,285 --> 04:02:32,685 concerned about the potential 7349 04:02:35,825 --> 04:02:37,226 use we use and sale. 7350 04:02:37,226 --> 04:02:38,728 >> Of our personal data. Our 7351 04:02:38,728 --> 04:02:41,728 meeting, everyone living in or 7352 04:02:42,564 --> 04:02:45,167 visiting in the city of Key 7353 04:02:45,167 --> 04:02:47,169 West. The data that would be 7354 04:02:47,169 --> 04:02:49,569 collected by automatic license 7355 04:02:50,907 --> 04:02:52,875 plate readers and by other 7356 04:02:52,875 --> 04:02:54,543 technologies. I was prompted 7357 04:02:54,543 --> 04:02:57,543 to look into this after 7358 04:02:58,147 --> 04:02:59,315 receiving. Think 35 or more by 7359 04:02:59,315 --> 04:03:01,217 now. Emails and the other 7360 04:03:01,217 --> 04:03:03,719 members of the commission have 7361 04:03:03,719 --> 04:03:06,119 maybe also received receive 7362 04:03:06,421 --> 04:03:09,421 those emails. So did some 7363 04:03:10,159 --> 04:03:10,760 research. It's not an area 7364 04:03:10,760 --> 04:03:14,197 that I have had a great deal 7365 04:03:14,197 --> 04:03:15,650 of familiarity with, but I 7366 04:03:15,650 --> 04:03:16,232 spoke to a number of people 7367 04:03:16,232 --> 04:03:20,432 who are a lot smarter than I 7368 04:03:21,104 --> 04:03:23,390 am on this topic, including an 7369 04:03:23,390 --> 04:03:25,740 attorney who is familiar with 7370 04:03:25,740 --> 04:03:26,876 the National application and 7371 04:03:26,876 --> 04:03:30,476 push backs of this kind of 7372 04:03:31,948 --> 04:03:32,749 data collection and and 7373 04:03:32,749 --> 04:03:35,749 individual who works with such 7374 04:03:36,886 --> 04:03:37,420 type of surveillance equipment 7375 04:03:37,420 --> 04:03:39,820 in a high-level security 7376 04:03:40,156 --> 04:03:42,556 clearance kind of situation. 7377 04:03:43,760 --> 04:03:44,227 And so apparently the 7378 04:03:44,227 --> 04:03:46,227 companies that we're 7379 04:03:47,163 --> 04:03:50,163 contracting Axon is the name 7380 04:03:51,100 --> 04:03:51,535 of one. Another one is flock 7381 04:03:51,535 --> 04:03:53,236 there. But their business 7382 04:03:53,236 --> 04:03:55,636 model involves collecting data 7383 04:03:56,390 --> 04:03:57,307 and then aggregating that data 7384 04:03:57,307 --> 04:04:00,307 and reselling it to 3rd 7385 04:04:01,378 --> 04:04:03,947 parties I don't want to see 7386 04:04:03,947 --> 04:04:06,947 that happen here. We did 7387 04:04:07,651 --> 04:04:09,386 purchase a system in NOVEMBER 7388 04:04:09,386 --> 04:04:12,386 of 2025. And the chief knows 7389 04:04:14,892 --> 04:04:17,694 I've asked about it and at the 7390 04:04:17,694 --> 04:04:19,630 moment that we've had an 7391 04:04:19,630 --> 04:04:20,231 exchange e-mail exchange. And 7392 04:04:20,231 --> 04:04:23,831 I've also just sent the email 7393 04:04:23,868 --> 04:04:24,802 to the attorneys here. So it's 7394 04:04:24,802 --> 04:04:26,470 been suggested that we pass 7395 04:04:26,470 --> 04:04:30,700 some kind of an ordinance that 7396 04:04:30,574 --> 04:04:32,143 would prohibit that sale or 7397 04:04:32,143 --> 04:04:35,743 are we use of our personal 7398 04:04:38,449 --> 04:04:39,490 data now? So that might be 7399 04:04:39,490 --> 04:04:39,551 coming forward. I what I I I 7400 04:04:39,551 --> 04:04:42,186 want to make sure that 7401 04:04:42,186 --> 04:04:44,956 something like that would be 7402 04:04:44,956 --> 04:04:47,425 effective. I want to make sure 7403 04:04:47,425 --> 04:04:49,661 that that we have confidence 7404 04:04:49,661 --> 04:04:53,261 that the data that is being 7405 04:04:54,265 --> 04:04:55,366 collected is stored within a 7406 04:04:55,366 --> 04:04:57,366 secure cloud-based 7407 04:04:58,336 --> 04:04:58,970 environment. That's restricted 7408 04:04:58,970 --> 04:04:59,604 to police department. Key West 7409 04:04:59,604 --> 04:05:01,973 Police Department used because 7410 04:05:01,973 --> 04:05:02,573 I know automatic license plate 7411 04:05:02,573 --> 04:05:04,973 readers. It's beneficial, you 7412 04:05:05,210 --> 04:05:08,210 know, to police police work. 7413 04:05:09,147 --> 04:05:10,415 But once it goes beyond that, 7414 04:05:10,415 --> 04:05:13,285 I want to make sure that what 7415 04:05:13,285 --> 04:05:15,320 we bought because it was a 15 7416 04:05:15,320 --> 04:05:16,354 page in voice of the different 7417 04:05:16,354 --> 04:05:16,888 items of equipment that the 7418 04:05:16,888 --> 04:05:18,888 police department bought, 7419 04:05:19,657 --> 04:05:22,570 including body cameras, mostly 7420 04:05:23,461 --> 04:05:26,461 and patrol upgrades. So since 7421 04:05:27,650 --> 04:05:29,602 we're buying it from a company 7422 04:05:29,602 --> 04:05:31,703 makes money by collecting and 7423 04:05:31,703 --> 04:05:33,739 reselling data. How do we know 7424 04:05:33,739 --> 04:05:34,439 that? That's not going to 7425 04:05:34,439 --> 04:05:34,940 happen to our data. So that's 7426 04:05:34,940 --> 04:05:37,940 I wanted to bring that 7427 04:05:38,677 --> 04:05:40,679 forward. MAY have had other 7428 04:05:40,679 --> 04:05:41,613 conversations. Yes, just like, 7429 04:05:41,613 --> 04:05:42,148 you know, I've also I've also 7430 04:05:42,148 --> 04:05:44,548 asked the city attorney's 7431 04:05:44,583 --> 04:05:45,484 office to begin work on an 7432 04:05:45,484 --> 04:05:46,818 ordinance. 7433 04:05:46,818 --> 04:05:49,622 >> With that with at the same 7434 04:05:49,622 --> 04:05:51,622 time, respecting the 7435 04:05:51,723 --> 04:05:53,792 reasonable and important law 7436 04:05:53,792 --> 04:05:56,762 enforcement needs for the for 7437 04:05:56,762 --> 04:05:57,329 the technology. We don't want 7438 04:05:57,329 --> 04:05:57,963 interfere with our police 7439 04:05:57,963 --> 04:06:00,363 department in those legitimate 7440 04:06:03,569 --> 04:06:05,604 uses. Of course. I like the 7441 04:06:05,604 --> 04:06:06,605 fact that multiple 7442 04:06:06,605 --> 04:06:07,973 commissioners also members of 7443 04:06:07,973 --> 04:06:08,575 this commission of spoken with 7444 04:06:08,575 --> 04:06:09,975 the legal department, asking 7445 04:06:09,975 --> 04:06:12,612 them to begin work on this. So 7446 04:06:12,612 --> 04:06:13,213 that's good. I saw the chief 7447 04:06:13,213 --> 04:06:17,413 woke up. Did you want to say 7448 04:06:20,387 --> 04:06:20,987 anything she forever? Mr. 7449 04:06:20,987 --> 04:06:21,554 Maher, thank you. I did want 7450 04:06:21,554 --> 04:06:22,489 to say something after your 7451 04:06:22,489 --> 04:06:26,890 e-mails. I did reach out to 7452 04:06:26,392 --> 04:06:27,127 Axon. So to set the record 7453 04:06:27,127 --> 04:06:28,828 straight and they sent me a 7454 04:06:28,828 --> 04:06:31,698 bunch of stuff. But you're 7455 04:06:31,698 --> 04:06:32,933 talking about what tax on what 7456 04:06:32,933 --> 04:06:33,667 you think acts on does do so. 7457 04:06:33,667 --> 04:06:36,936 I'm gonna tell you what acts 7458 04:06:36,936 --> 04:06:37,638 on does not do does not use 7459 04:06:37,638 --> 04:06:40,380 facial recognition of perform 7460 04:06:40,540 --> 04:06:42,575 live registered owner Lookups 7461 04:06:42,575 --> 04:06:44,744 does not place agency alpr 7462 04:06:44,744 --> 04:06:47,681 data into a national or pool 7463 04:06:47,681 --> 04:06:49,516 database does not sure agency 7464 04:06:49,516 --> 04:06:51,251 lpr down to automatically or 7465 04:06:51,251 --> 04:06:51,851 by people does not allow 7466 04:06:51,851 --> 04:06:54,251 agencies that receive share 7467 04:06:55,455 --> 04:06:58,192 data to reassure it does not 7468 04:06:58,192 --> 04:06:58,826 provide federal agencies 7469 04:06:58,826 --> 04:07:00,927 automatic standing or build in 7470 04:07:00,927 --> 04:07:01,462 access to agency alpr data 7471 04:07:01,462 --> 04:07:04,462 through acts on does not 7472 04:07:06,100 --> 04:07:07,935 automatic. Bottom 8 7473 04:07:07,935 --> 04:07:08,569 enforcement, every alert 7474 04:07:08,569 --> 04:07:10,710 requires the office or a human 7475 04:07:10,710 --> 04:07:13,207 to review it before we take 7476 04:07:13,207 --> 04:07:14,274 action does not allow acts on 7477 04:07:14,274 --> 04:07:17,274 the pool resell or disclose 7478 04:07:18,279 --> 04:07:19,447 agency alpr doubt it except 7479 04:07:19,447 --> 04:07:21,549 where legally required which 7480 04:07:21,549 --> 04:07:22,149 would be a subpoena from the 7481 04:07:22,149 --> 04:07:25,520 courts, right, the data that 7482 04:07:25,520 --> 04:07:25,619 we have there is part of a 7483 04:07:25,619 --> 04:07:28,619 court case, the courts can 7484 04:07:29,560 --> 04:07:31,392 subpoena that data and it does 7485 04:07:31,392 --> 04:07:31,926 not continuously monitor 7486 04:07:31,926 --> 04:07:33,126 individuals or maintain a 7487 04:07:33,126 --> 04:07:34,194 real-time location feed on in 7488 04:07:34,194 --> 04:07:36,290 the person. So those are some 7489 04:07:36,290 --> 04:07:37,264 of the things that it does not 7490 04:07:37,264 --> 04:07:41,464 do. But I am glad that you 7491 04:07:42,236 --> 04:07:43,638 brought it up because there's 7492 04:07:43,638 --> 04:07:45,673 There's only 18 things that 7493 04:07:45,673 --> 04:07:48,410 are lpr is actually look for. 7494 04:07:48,410 --> 04:07:51,410 That. But there are 74 more 7495 04:07:52,313 --> 04:07:54,415 that we could do. And 2 of 7496 04:07:54,415 --> 04:07:55,516 them, I thought we were doing 7497 04:07:55,516 --> 04:07:59,621 so I am going to increase the 7498 04:07:59,621 --> 04:08:01,355 18 to 20 because when when 7499 04:08:01,355 --> 04:08:03,491 there's a silver alert for 7500 04:08:03,491 --> 04:08:04,358 commissioner Castillo. I want 7501 04:08:04,358 --> 04:08:07,261 I wanted to I wanted to 7502 04:08:07,261 --> 04:08:09,640 automatically notify the 7503 04:08:09,640 --> 04:08:09,664 officers that we've passed 7504 04:08:09,664 --> 04:08:10,298 somebody with a silver alert. 7505 04:08:10,298 --> 04:08:13,100 So silver alerts are currently 7506 04:08:13,100 --> 04:08:13,534 on the list, that 7507 04:08:13,534 --> 04:08:15,203 automatically notify the 7508 04:08:15,203 --> 04:08:18,373 officers. But I'm going to add 7509 04:08:18,373 --> 04:08:19,441 that and also kidnapping 7510 04:08:19,441 --> 04:08:20,442 cases. Feel that it's 7511 04:08:20,442 --> 04:08:22,511 important that if our cars 7512 04:08:22,511 --> 04:08:24,680 pass a car of unknown 7513 04:08:24,680 --> 04:08:25,213 kidnapper that alert the 7514 04:08:25,213 --> 04:08:25,814 officers to the fact that 7515 04:08:25,814 --> 04:08:26,348 we've just passed somebody as 7516 04:08:26,348 --> 04:08:28,450 dangerous as that in our 7517 04:08:28,450 --> 04:08:30,450 community. 7518 04:08:31,486 --> 04:08:32,587 >> chief, I appreciate that 7519 04:08:32,587 --> 04:08:33,656 because part of the issue is 7520 04:08:33,656 --> 04:08:35,423 public not having the 7521 04:08:35,423 --> 04:08:37,250 information and not knowing 7522 04:08:37,250 --> 04:08:37,626 what we are doing, what we 7523 04:08:37,626 --> 04:08:39,128 have the capacity to do, what 7524 04:08:39,128 --> 04:08:41,630 we don't have the capacity do. 7525 04:08:41,630 --> 04:08:42,898 So it's very helpful for you 7526 04:08:42,898 --> 04:08:45,000 come up here give us that 7527 04:08:45,000 --> 04:08:45,768 information. But at the same 7528 04:08:45,768 --> 04:08:47,435 time, I think it is also being 7529 04:08:47,435 --> 04:08:48,300 responsive to the community 7530 04:08:48,300 --> 04:08:51,300 and our obligation to even 7531 04:08:51,374 --> 04:08:54,243 look at the ordinance options 7532 04:08:54,243 --> 04:08:56,643 for future uses. This 7533 04:08:57,579 --> 04:08:58,447 technology is so rapidly 7534 04:08:58,447 --> 04:08:59,614 increasing in its in its 7535 04:08:59,614 --> 04:09:01,383 availability. And who knows 7536 04:09:01,383 --> 04:09:02,585 what the next mechanism will 7537 04:09:02,585 --> 04:09:03,186 be after this. You know, so we 7538 04:09:03,186 --> 04:09:05,320 need to be cut sort of ahead 7539 04:09:05,320 --> 04:09:05,821 of of this. And I really 7540 04:09:05,821 --> 04:09:06,355 appreciate Commissioner 7541 04:09:06,355 --> 04:09:06,956 Commissioner Haskell for 7542 04:09:06,956 --> 04:09:10,556 bringing it up. You want to 7543 04:09:11,930 --> 04:09:11,393 see something else. Yes. I do. 7544 04:09:11,393 --> 04:09:13,393 Thank you. 7545 04:09:15,732 --> 04:09:16,666 >> Could you go back? As a 7546 04:09:16,666 --> 04:09:19,666 follow-up? I heard you say 7547 04:09:20,770 --> 04:09:23,770 that Axon does not share 7548 04:09:24,541 --> 04:09:25,141 information automatically or 7549 04:09:25,141 --> 04:09:28,178 by default, ok? So does that 7550 04:09:28,178 --> 04:09:30,313 mean they do share by some 7551 04:09:30,313 --> 04:09:33,160 kind of requests and what kind 7552 04:09:33,160 --> 04:09:34,383 of but Quest would that be? 7553 04:09:34,383 --> 04:09:36,783 Under what circumstances might 7554 04:09:37,320 --> 04:09:39,320 information be shared? 7555 04:09:41,570 --> 04:09:41,958 >> So these sites only under 7556 04:09:41,958 --> 04:09:43,260 subpoena all of our data is 7557 04:09:43,260 --> 04:09:44,127 stored in a manner that is 7558 04:09:44,127 --> 04:09:46,290 compliant with see, just so if 7559 04:09:46,290 --> 04:09:47,663 you don't have your seat just 7560 04:09:47,663 --> 04:09:48,298 certification, you can see our 7561 04:09:48,298 --> 04:09:50,533 data. So not none of you could 7562 04:09:50,533 --> 04:09:52,836 even see our data. We've had 7563 04:09:52,836 --> 04:09:55,236 situations where we've had 7564 04:09:55,639 --> 04:09:58,408 problems with the system or 7565 04:09:58,408 --> 04:10:00,277 needed some beyond our 7566 04:10:00,277 --> 04:10:01,177 expertise are beyond our 7567 04:10:01,177 --> 04:10:03,577 abilities. We literally have 7568 04:10:03,613 --> 04:10:05,549 to give backs on permission 7569 04:10:05,549 --> 04:10:06,951 while we're on with them to 7570 04:10:06,951 --> 04:10:10,888 get in to our data, to help 7571 04:10:10,888 --> 04:10:14,458 us. With our data fix what the 7572 04:10:14,458 --> 04:10:15,859 situation we're dealing with. 7573 04:10:15,859 --> 04:10:16,460 So not even can get into our 7574 04:10:16,460 --> 04:10:17,294 data without us being online 7575 04:10:17,294 --> 04:10:20,894 with them at the time and 7576 04:10:23,634 --> 04:10:24,634 allowing meant. But it is 7577 04:10:24,634 --> 04:10:26,370 routine. I believe I should 7578 04:10:26,370 --> 04:10:27,537 ask this as a question. Is it 7579 04:10:27,537 --> 04:10:28,339 routine to share this data 7580 04:10:28,339 --> 04:10:28,606 with other law enforcement 7581 04:10:28,606 --> 04:10:30,606 agencies? 7582 04:10:30,875 --> 04:10:32,343 >> No meant. 7583 04:10:32,343 --> 04:10:35,343 >> No, ma'am. We we work 7584 04:10:36,681 --> 04:10:37,548 through an agreement because 7585 04:10:37,548 --> 04:10:41,748 all the all of its run through 7586 04:10:42,653 --> 04:10:43,487 one central. Location. And we 7587 04:10:43,487 --> 04:10:46,457 have you that said you. We 7588 04:10:46,457 --> 04:10:47,758 have allows us to run the the 7589 04:10:47,758 --> 04:10:48,759 data just through their 7590 04:10:48,759 --> 04:10:50,161 computer system. But it all 7591 04:10:50,161 --> 04:10:53,761 go. It's all in our system. 7592 04:10:54,865 --> 04:10:55,967 It's all restricted to us. 7593 04:10:55,967 --> 04:10:56,701 >> But let's say your kitchen, 7594 04:10:56,701 --> 04:10:59,701 somebody going through a red 7595 04:11:00,304 --> 04:11:02,390 light who has a license tag 7596 04:11:02,390 --> 04:11:02,741 from Kentucky like you don't 7597 04:11:02,741 --> 04:11:03,374 have the city of Key West 7598 04:11:03,374 --> 04:11:05,774 Police Department doesn't have 7599 04:11:07,746 --> 04:11:08,880 a database of Kentucky 7600 04:11:08,880 --> 04:11:09,513 license. Know it rate right 7601 04:11:09,513 --> 04:11:10,148 here it all through it. See, I 7602 04:11:10,148 --> 04:11:11,883 see in afternoon. See, I see 7603 04:11:11,883 --> 04:11:12,483 absolutely. It runs it through 7604 04:11:12,483 --> 04:11:13,818 the system and that's that's 7605 04:11:13,818 --> 04:11:15,818 where the the 7606 04:11:17,589 --> 04:11:18,190 >> the officers visual 7607 04:11:18,190 --> 04:11:19,891 confirmation of whatever says 7608 04:11:19,891 --> 04:11:21,493 because if you have Florida 7609 04:11:21,493 --> 04:11:22,260 license plate, 1, 2, 3, 4, and 7610 04:11:22,260 --> 04:11:24,950 Kentucky license plate. 1, 2, 7611 04:11:24,950 --> 04:11:26,597 3, 4, goes in front of you and 7612 04:11:26,597 --> 04:11:27,499 it comes up and says, hey, 7613 04:11:27,499 --> 04:11:28,266 it's a you know, it's a 7614 04:11:28,266 --> 04:11:30,666 suspended or expired license 7615 04:11:34,305 --> 04:11:36,708 plate but it's Kentucky. And 7616 04:11:36,708 --> 04:11:37,309 you look in the person or and 7617 04:11:37,309 --> 04:11:39,780 the lure. The alert is for a 7618 04:11:39,780 --> 04:11:39,978 Florida tag, you have to 7619 04:11:39,978 --> 04:11:41,613 visually confirm that's the 7620 04:11:41,613 --> 04:11:42,480 right state. It's a right 7621 04:11:42,480 --> 04:11:45,480 number. And what it's telling 7622 04:11:47,152 --> 04:11:48,530 you is accurate. 7623 04:11:48,530 --> 04:11:49,188 >> Well, thank you. You're 7624 04:11:49,188 --> 04:11:51,188 continuing your contributing 7625 04:11:51,757 --> 04:11:53,125 to my continuing education on 7626 04:11:53,125 --> 04:11:53,659 the topic. And I'm I'm going 7627 04:11:53,659 --> 04:11:55,327 to, you know, continue to 7628 04:11:55,327 --> 04:11:55,928 learn more. Thank you. 7629 04:11:55,928 --> 04:11:58,928 >> And that's just the in-car 7630 04:11:59,665 --> 04:12:02,665 camera. So the body cams. 7631 04:12:03,369 --> 04:12:05,671 Don't don't do Anything else 7632 04:12:05,671 --> 04:12:07,406 on attorney MR. On known that 7633 04:12:07,406 --> 04:12:07,974 we were. You got to have that. 7634 04:12:07,974 --> 04:12:10,876 That's perfectly ok, it was 7635 04:12:10,876 --> 04:12:12,178 legally related. So it's good 7636 04:12:12,178 --> 04:12:14,179 >> anything else that attorney 7637 04:12:14,179 --> 04:12:16,715 report? Well, you because we 7638 04:12:16,715 --> 04:12:19,850 have order the agenda. But it 7639 04:12:19,850 --> 04:12:20,986 is out on the agenda or we're 7640 04:12:20,986 --> 04:12:23,386 going to have commission 7641 04:12:24,560 --> 04:12:24,657 comments soon. So if that's 7642 04:12:24,657 --> 04:12:25,224 because yeah, I was going to 7643 04:12:25,224 --> 04:12:28,224 start my mistake. Was want 7644 04:12:28,828 --> 04:12:30,329 agree with her. About this 7645 04:12:30,329 --> 04:12:30,897 particular subject? Yeah, ok, 7646 04:12:30,897 --> 04:12:31,864 go ahead. You like a lot of 7647 04:12:31,864 --> 04:12:35,464 you on that. And then they 7648 04:12:38,380 --> 04:12:39,172 did. By messages on the system 7649 04:12:39,172 --> 04:12:41,307 about this spying. Did you 7650 04:12:41,307 --> 04:12:42,775 sign a contract with a 7651 04:12:42,775 --> 04:12:43,209 company? And they're they're 7652 04:12:43,209 --> 04:12:45,209 collecting data and 7653 04:12:46,278 --> 04:12:47,470 everything. This is what's on 7654 04:12:47,470 --> 04:12:49,816 all the Internet or all the 7655 04:12:49,816 --> 04:12:52,816 messages. Get all my system. 7656 04:12:53,853 --> 04:12:56,890 12 min ago, Hunter. MR. Met 7657 04:12:56,890 --> 04:12:56,689 say I don't know what you're 7658 04:12:56,689 --> 04:12:59,326 referring to, but if it's on 7659 04:12:59,326 --> 04:13:01,328 the Internet, it must be true. 7660 04:13:01,328 --> 04:13:04,928 Not even I'm saying it's our 7661 04:13:05,598 --> 04:13:08,235 system, but I want I want to 7662 04:13:08,235 --> 04:13:08,835 tell you something up front 7663 04:13:08,835 --> 04:13:11,705 fashion. I don't want anybody 7664 04:13:11,705 --> 04:13:13,541 track to me. I don't want 7665 04:13:13,541 --> 04:13:14,942 anybody. I don't want that. 7666 04:13:14,942 --> 04:13:17,430 And then all the letters and a 7667 04:13:17,430 --> 04:13:20,413 guy, this is a big problem. 7668 04:13:20,413 --> 04:13:20,981 Trust It's going to bigger. 7669 04:13:20,981 --> 04:13:22,349 Our our legal department is 7670 04:13:22,349 --> 04:13:23,751 working on it. So that's the 7671 04:13:23,751 --> 04:13:25,686 really is if there's an issue 7672 04:13:25,686 --> 04:13:27,488 with emails, I would suggest 7673 04:13:27,488 --> 04:13:28,890 we, you know, have our it 7674 04:13:28,890 --> 04:13:28,722 department. Look at your, you 7675 04:13:28,722 --> 04:13:32,920 know your e-mail. But I didn't 7676 04:13:32,920 --> 04:13:32,827 receive those emails. Show, 7677 04:13:32,827 --> 04:13:33,427 you know, I know. I believe 7678 04:13:33,427 --> 04:13:34,280 you have to say it's not 7679 04:13:34,280 --> 04:13:35,863 everyone that's receiving him 7680 04:13:35,863 --> 04:13:36,763 maybe there's an issue with 7681 04:13:36,763 --> 04:13:39,763 that. We have some blocking 7682 04:13:40,635 --> 04:13:43,635 mechanism in our e-mails. Also 7683 04:13:44,672 --> 04:13:45,439 But but there is a social 7684 04:13:45,439 --> 04:13:46,400 media pushing on issue that 7685 04:13:46,400 --> 04:13:49,610 are nationally so he MAY have 7686 04:13:49,610 --> 04:13:51,610 gotten into that. 7687 04:13:51,713 --> 04:13:52,847 >> And and there is a lot of 7688 04:13:52,847 --> 04:13:54,615 misinformation that's being 7689 04:13:54,615 --> 04:13:55,716 spread around that. But that 7690 04:13:55,716 --> 04:13:56,284 doesn't change the fact that 7691 04:13:56,284 --> 04:13:58,920 we want to put barriers and 7692 04:13:58,920 --> 04:13:59,520 precautions in place. Weather 7693 04:13:59,520 --> 04:14:01,789 won't be as people are saying 7694 04:14:01,789 --> 04:14:06,589 is true or not. We can look at 7695 04:14:06,628 --> 04:14:07,495 ways to ensure just as the 7696 04:14:07,495 --> 04:14:09,297 chief you have very tight 7697 04:14:09,297 --> 04:14:10,598 controls on that data right 7698 04:14:10,598 --> 04:14:13,801 now. I can't go see it, 7699 04:14:13,801 --> 04:14:14,402 correct. You can't go see it. 7700 04:14:14,402 --> 04:14:17,806 So but what we can put those 7701 04:14:17,806 --> 04:14:18,473 protections in place, whether 7702 04:14:18,473 --> 04:14:20,873 the information the social 7703 04:14:21,409 --> 04:14:24,946 media is telling news true or 7704 04:14:24,946 --> 04:14:25,947 not, we we will put that 7705 04:14:25,947 --> 04:14:27,215 information together. Come 7706 04:14:27,215 --> 04:14:29,851 back to you with any 7707 04:14:29,851 --> 04:14:30,418 recommendations we need to 7708 04:14:30,418 --> 04:14:31,353 ensure protection. And I'm 7709 04:14:31,353 --> 04:14:33,753 very happy for Commissioner 7710 04:14:35,223 --> 04:14:36,324 Haskell to take over an to 7711 04:14:36,324 --> 04:14:36,925 sponsor the ordinance change 7712 04:14:36,925 --> 04:14:39,925 so her friends. In addition, 7713 04:14:43,998 --> 04:14:44,600 think the amount thank you, 7714 04:14:44,600 --> 04:14:45,200 Commissioner Haskell military 7715 04:14:45,200 --> 04:14:45,801 use its authority has listed 7716 04:14:45,801 --> 04:14:47,870 the Vice Mayor Lee were still 7717 04:14:47,870 --> 04:14:49,738 in attorney report. 7718 04:14:49,738 --> 04:14:50,372 >> But it's in regards license 7719 04:14:50,372 --> 04:14:52,507 plate readers. And that I'd be 7720 04:14:52,507 --> 04:14:54,610 remiss if I didn't say. 7721 04:14:54,610 --> 04:14:57,312 Tracking people in all this. I 7722 04:14:57,312 --> 04:15:00,312 believe that. Anyone up here 7723 04:15:01,583 --> 04:15:05,187 in the public, if they were. A 7724 04:15:05,187 --> 04:15:06,655 victim of a violent crime or 7725 04:15:06,655 --> 04:15:07,222 serious crime that they would 7726 04:15:07,222 --> 04:15:10,222 want law enforcement to use 7727 04:15:10,426 --> 04:15:13,930 any tool. That we have at our 7728 04:15:13,930 --> 04:15:16,599 disposal. To be able to track 7729 04:15:16,599 --> 04:15:19,599 that offender down with the 7730 04:15:20,970 --> 04:15:21,971 license plate reader does. It 7731 04:15:21,971 --> 04:15:22,605 tells you a call this a car 7732 04:15:22,605 --> 04:15:25,308 with this tag in this color in 7733 04:15:25,308 --> 04:15:27,242 this model. This location at 7734 04:15:27,242 --> 04:15:29,642 this particular time. That's 7735 04:15:31,247 --> 04:15:32,115 it. It didn't say the person 7736 04:15:32,115 --> 04:15:32,748 in there the cut because it's 7737 04:15:32,748 --> 04:15:35,418 not it's not reading. It's not 7738 04:15:35,418 --> 04:15:36,953 picking up on personally. It's 7739 04:15:36,953 --> 04:15:38,555 telling you that this car 7740 04:15:38,555 --> 04:15:39,889 passed this location with this 7741 04:15:39,889 --> 04:15:40,489 tag, this color at this 7742 04:15:40,489 --> 04:15:41,958 particular time. Let me tell 7743 04:15:41,958 --> 04:15:44,358 you from personal experience, 7744 04:15:46,620 --> 04:15:47,563 those. License plate readers 7745 04:15:47,563 --> 04:15:50,563 and that information that we 7746 04:15:51,670 --> 04:15:53,170 have have helped us up 7747 04:15:53,170 --> 04:15:55,272 homicides and all kinds of 7748 04:15:55,272 --> 04:15:56,239 crimes. And unfortunately, 7749 04:15:56,239 --> 04:15:58,740 what I believes happened here, 7750 04:15:58,740 --> 04:16:01,478 there's a few bad actors with 7751 04:16:01,478 --> 04:16:03,246 a law enforcement who have 7752 04:16:03,246 --> 04:16:04,280 abused that information. Yes, 7753 04:16:04,280 --> 04:16:05,549 and kind of created this 7754 04:16:05,549 --> 04:16:08,549 situation that we have today. 7755 04:16:08,751 --> 04:16:10,520 And it's unfortunate that 7756 04:16:10,520 --> 04:16:11,154 >> the governor and whoever 7757 04:16:11,154 --> 04:16:14,657 now remove them from the right 7758 04:16:14,657 --> 04:16:15,959 of ways of of of the highways 7759 04:16:15,959 --> 04:16:16,727 and stuff. I just think 7760 04:16:16,727 --> 04:16:19,663 approach is wrong. What we 7761 04:16:19,663 --> 04:16:21,164 should do is set up safeguards 7762 04:16:21,164 --> 04:16:24,301 to make sure that, you know, 7763 04:16:24,301 --> 04:16:24,869 indiscipline in it in those 7764 04:16:24,869 --> 04:16:27,869 people, the bad actors and 7765 04:16:28,539 --> 04:16:29,139 send examples to him. But just 7766 04:16:29,139 --> 04:16:31,539 arbitrarily say that they're 7767 04:16:32,576 --> 04:16:34,411 they're tracking us. 7768 04:16:34,411 --> 04:16:35,146 >> And they're bad and they're 7769 04:16:35,146 --> 04:16:35,712 invading our privacy. And all 7770 04:16:35,712 --> 04:16:38,482 that stuff is just not the 7771 04:16:38,482 --> 04:16:39,550 case. 7772 04:16:39,550 --> 04:16:40,551 >> I agree with you. Vice 7773 04:16:40,551 --> 04:16:42,352 Mayor Lea 100% and that's why 7774 04:16:42,352 --> 04:16:44,880 that's the direction I've I've 7775 04:16:44,880 --> 04:16:44,689 given to the legal department. 7776 04:16:44,689 --> 04:16:46,557 But thankfully, Commissioner 7777 04:16:46,557 --> 04:16:47,124 Haskell's taking it over and 7778 04:16:47,124 --> 04:16:48,725 will move forward with her 7779 04:16:48,725 --> 04:16:49,327 sponsorship of that ordinance. 7780 04:16:49,327 --> 04:16:52,363 That's good. Ok? Can we on to 7781 04:16:52,363 --> 04:16:52,930 the next item city clerk's 7782 04:16:52,930 --> 04:16:55,833 report? I just want to make 7783 04:16:55,833 --> 04:16:56,601 mention of all the other 7784 04:16:56,601 --> 04:16:57,167 meetings we have on the 22nd 7785 04:16:57,167 --> 04:17:00,738 and make sure we're all on 7786 04:17:00,738 --> 04:17:01,305 water. I know Commissioner 7787 04:17:01,305 --> 04:17:03,408 Haskell is not going to be 7788 04:17:03,408 --> 04:17:05,176 able to attend on the 22nd at 7789 04:17:05,176 --> 04:17:05,743 all. We definitely do need to 7790 04:17:05,743 --> 04:17:07,312 have the budget hearing on 7791 04:17:07,312 --> 04:17:10,312 that date. That's not movable. 7792 04:17:10,348 --> 04:17:10,949 And then we have the attorney 7793 04:17:10,949 --> 04:17:11,583 closed session at one. 45 and 7794 04:17:11,583 --> 04:17:14,452 the special meeting at 03:00pm 7795 04:17:14,452 --> 04:17:16,855 to discuss sarcasm. Thing we 7796 04:17:16,855 --> 04:17:20,455 need is again, the 22nd on 7797 04:17:21,193 --> 04:17:21,960 DECEMBER. 22, it's a yes, the 7798 04:17:21,960 --> 04:17:22,427 22nd Wednesday that sorry, 7799 04:17:22,427 --> 04:17:24,529 Tuesday, the 22nd of 7800 04:17:24,529 --> 04:17:25,529 SEPTEMBER. We're having the 7801 04:17:25,529 --> 04:17:27,929 closed attorney session with 7802 04:17:31,236 --> 04:17:34,236 that. One. 45 pm. The special 7803 04:17:35,507 --> 04:17:36,107 meeting at 3 o'clock. And then 7804 04:17:36,107 --> 04:17:39,107 our second budget hearing at 7805 04:17:43,949 --> 04:17:44,750 05:00:05pm. Commissioner 7806 04:17:44,750 --> 04:17:45,384 Haskell. Were you making of a 7807 04:17:45,384 --> 04:17:48,984 requester of some sort that we 7808 04:17:49,187 --> 04:17:51,587 could talk about? Regarding 7809 04:17:52,624 --> 04:17:53,158 the city clerk's report. Yet 7810 04:17:53,158 --> 04:17:56,158 the time of the meetings 7811 04:17:56,828 --> 04:17:57,663 because well, I 7812 04:17:57,663 --> 04:18:00,466 >> and it's I told Carrie, it 7813 04:18:00,466 --> 04:18:04,660 was like terrible for me. I 7814 04:18:05,710 --> 04:18:08,173 didn't say I could not the but 7815 04:18:08,173 --> 04:18:08,741 I said I would really prefer 7816 04:18:08,741 --> 04:18:11,141 the meetings bn 2 different 7817 04:18:12,511 --> 04:18:15,448 days instead of, you know, but 7818 04:18:15,448 --> 04:18:16,480 well, it what it is. We can 7819 04:18:16,480 --> 04:18:18,500 You know, I'll definitely be 7820 04:18:18,500 --> 04:18:19,652 here for the budget meeting 7821 04:18:19,652 --> 04:18:22,655 and I am trying to rearrange 7822 04:18:22,655 --> 04:18:23,589 my schedule to make the other 7823 04:18:23,589 --> 04:18:24,623 meetings. 7824 04:18:24,623 --> 04:18:25,224 >> Well, the organism special 7825 04:18:25,224 --> 04:18:27,624 meeting is really important, 7826 04:18:28,161 --> 04:18:28,861 but it will be recorded. So 7827 04:18:28,861 --> 04:18:29,629 comes to worst. We're not 7828 04:18:29,629 --> 04:18:33,132 taking So it's just it's it's 7829 04:18:33,132 --> 04:18:34,701 a special meeting. Workshop. 7830 04:18:34,701 --> 04:18:37,101 Okay. Anything else medically 7831 04:18:37,937 --> 04:18:39,672 now? Okay. Next slide 7832 04:18:39,672 --> 04:18:40,240 commissioner comments. I'm 7833 04:18:40,240 --> 04:18:40,773 sorry, citizen comments. We 7834 04:18:40,773 --> 04:18:43,773 have Leon Moyer and then 7835 04:18:49,481 --> 04:18:50,817 Margaret Romero. 7836 04:18:50,817 --> 04:18:51,351 >> Good afternoon, MR. Mayor 7837 04:18:51,351 --> 04:18:53,351 Commissioners, staff and 7838 04:18:53,720 --> 04:18:54,721 visitors Leon Moyer and I want 7839 04:18:54,721 --> 04:18:57,721 to Segue to something you've 7840 04:18:58,392 --> 04:19:00,270 been discussing here. You have 7841 04:19:00,270 --> 04:19:00,627 the impression that the police 7842 04:19:00,627 --> 04:19:03,497 and law enforcement are here 7843 04:19:03,497 --> 04:19:04,798 to save us and keep us safe. I 7844 04:19:04,798 --> 04:19:07,798 want to direct your attention 7845 04:19:07,934 --> 04:19:08,435 to the town of Castle. Rock 7846 04:19:08,435 --> 04:19:10,835 were says Gonzalez also 7847 04:19:13,173 --> 04:19:13,973 sometimes just called Gonzales 7848 04:19:13,973 --> 04:19:14,775 case because that will clear 7849 04:19:14,775 --> 04:19:16,143 the United States Supreme 7850 04:19:16,143 --> 04:19:18,278 Court misses Gonzalez got a 7851 04:19:18,278 --> 04:19:20,678 restraining order against her 7852 04:19:20,881 --> 04:19:21,415 husband so he would let her 7853 04:19:21,415 --> 04:19:22,682 and the children alone. 7854 04:19:22,682 --> 04:19:25,820 Instead he kidnapped the 7855 04:19:25,819 --> 04:19:27,421 children, killed 3 of them. 7856 04:19:27,421 --> 04:19:28,955 And she could file a complaint 7857 04:19:28,955 --> 04:19:30,391 with the town Castle Rock 7858 04:19:30,391 --> 04:19:30,991 Police Department asking them 7859 04:19:30,991 --> 04:19:32,693 to come to help her and they 7860 04:19:32,693 --> 04:19:36,263 never came to help her. So he 7861 04:19:36,263 --> 04:19:36,897 killed the 3 children. Then 7862 04:19:36,897 --> 04:19:37,531 they got in a police fight. If 7863 04:19:37,531 --> 04:19:40,935 and the police got involved in 7864 04:19:40,935 --> 04:19:41,635 killed the man. So she sued 7865 04:19:41,635 --> 04:19:42,637 the police department and 7866 04:19:42,637 --> 04:19:44,105 civil rights violations for 7867 04:19:44,105 --> 04:19:44,706 not enforcing the restraining 7868 04:19:44,706 --> 04:19:45,940 order she had from the court. 7869 04:19:45,940 --> 04:19:49,540 It was a court order. Every 7870 04:19:50,778 --> 04:19:51,379 single court held the courts 7871 04:19:51,379 --> 04:19:52,813 and the police departments do 7872 04:19:52,813 --> 04:19:55,316 not have a duty to individual 7873 04:19:55,316 --> 04:19:56,483 citizens. The police are here 7874 04:19:56,483 --> 04:19:57,852 for government. They're here 7875 04:19:57,852 --> 04:19:58,453 to protect you and your 7876 04:19:58,453 --> 04:20:00,853 official capacities, but not 7877 04:20:01,722 --> 04:20:02,222 in your citizen capacity. So 7878 04:20:02,222 --> 04:20:03,858 we're always under the 7879 04:20:03,858 --> 04:20:04,893 impression that the police are 7880 04:20:04,893 --> 04:20:05,760 going to save us and keep us 7881 04:20:05,760 --> 04:20:07,829 safe. They don't really have 7882 04:20:07,829 --> 04:20:08,997 that duty. They have a duty to 7883 04:20:08,997 --> 04:20:10,932 the general society to kind of 7884 04:20:10,932 --> 04:20:12,901 keep us all safe in a general 7885 04:20:12,901 --> 04:20:14,402 sense to go from there. I want 7886 04:20:14,402 --> 04:20:16,104 to direct your attention to 7887 04:20:16,104 --> 04:20:17,873 resolution number. 26 hyphen 7888 04:20:17,873 --> 04:20:19,641 to 15. This was a resolution 7889 04:20:19,641 --> 04:20:21,643 pass that your last AUGUST 7890 04:20:21,643 --> 04:20:22,743 meeting. And when I I'm 7891 04:20:22,743 --> 04:20:23,844 speaking generally is a 7892 04:20:23,844 --> 04:20:24,312 commission because realize 7893 04:20:24,312 --> 04:20:26,414 it's got a different 7894 04:20:26,414 --> 04:20:28,483 composition at this time. But 7895 04:20:28,483 --> 04:20:29,684 I want to talk about that. So 7896 04:20:29,684 --> 04:20:31,186 if you want drop Commission 7897 04:20:31,186 --> 04:20:33,186 resolution number, 26, I've 7898 04:20:33,255 --> 04:20:36,255 been to 15. We're going to 7899 04:20:37,960 --> 04:20:41,296 start by saying in the first 7900 04:20:41,296 --> 04:20:41,830 page section 2, paragraph b, 7901 04:20:41,830 --> 04:20:42,598 the mayor show called for 7902 04:20:42,598 --> 04:20:45,598 motions and state the result 7903 04:20:47,169 --> 04:20:48,369 of the votes. Small Currently, 7904 04:20:48,369 --> 04:20:48,937 the clerk is studying the 7905 04:20:48,937 --> 04:20:51,173 results, but I think it's a 7906 04:20:51,173 --> 04:20:51,740 matter of formality and 7907 04:20:51,740 --> 04:20:53,207 ceremonial duty as well as 7908 04:20:53,207 --> 04:20:56,207 Robert's rules of Order on 7909 04:20:57,313 --> 04:20:59,314 Page 2 of this motion. It 7910 04:20:59,314 --> 04:21:00,150 speaks who gets to speak one. 7911 04:21:00,150 --> 04:21:01,717 This was the one where you 7912 04:21:01,717 --> 04:21:04,117 withdrew public comment and 7913 04:21:04,286 --> 04:21:06,288 also that the staff no longer 7914 04:21:06,288 --> 04:21:06,789 has the duty to answer 7915 04:21:06,789 --> 04:21:07,356 questions that from the 7916 04:21:07,356 --> 04:21:09,756 commission members, if they 7917 04:21:12,494 --> 04:21:13,620 choose not to interesting 7918 04:21:13,620 --> 04:21:15,498 thing is I don't think you 7919 04:21:15,498 --> 04:21:18,498 realize what you passed Page 2 7920 04:21:19,669 --> 04:21:20,636 section 3, paragraph c public 7921 04:21:20,636 --> 04:21:21,237 comment will be allowed at all 7922 04:21:21,237 --> 04:21:24,237 first. And second readings of 7923 04:21:25,274 --> 04:21:25,875 ordinances. There is no public 7924 04:21:25,875 --> 04:21:28,711 comment on a discussion item 7925 04:21:28,711 --> 04:21:31,111 or a presentation. However, 7926 04:21:31,547 --> 04:21:33,820 upon public interest, the 7927 04:21:33,820 --> 04:21:33,616 mayor at their discretion MAY 7928 04:21:33,616 --> 04:21:36,160 waive the restriction on 7929 04:21:37,853 --> 04:21:40,253 public comments. And allow 7930 04:21:41,224 --> 04:21:43,224 discussion on Presentation. 7931 04:21:43,259 --> 04:21:43,726 But the important thing is 7932 04:21:43,726 --> 04:21:45,726 you've public comment 7933 04:21:46,963 --> 04:21:49,363 established. At the beginning 7934 04:21:49,900 --> 04:21:51,868 of the meeting. Almost always 7935 04:21:51,868 --> 04:21:55,468 at one minute. Thank you, sir. 7936 04:21:56,720 --> 04:21:58,174 Appreciate it. Mayor look on 7937 04:21:58,174 --> 04:21:58,809 Page 4 Section c public 7938 04:21:58,809 --> 04:22:01,809 comment shall be limited to 3 7939 04:22:02,245 --> 04:22:04,113 minutes per speaker at the 7940 04:22:04,113 --> 04:22:05,482 beginning of the morning and 7941 04:22:05,482 --> 04:22:06,830 evening Sessions. Now back in 7942 04:22:06,830 --> 04:22:08,483 FEBRUARY, the commission just 7943 04:22:09,860 --> 04:22:10,553 took that section off. But the 7944 04:22:10,553 --> 04:22:12,923 interesting thing is you also 7945 04:22:12,923 --> 04:22:16,260 have it in evening session at 7946 04:22:16,260 --> 04:22:17,928 end of the meeting. There. 7947 04:22:17,928 --> 04:22:20,764 She'll also be public comment 7948 04:22:20,764 --> 04:22:22,933 which you do still have. So 7949 04:22:22,933 --> 04:22:23,566 i'm not sure if you realize 7950 04:22:23,566 --> 04:22:25,768 what you're doing because your 7951 04:22:25,768 --> 04:22:27,938 agenda is not lawful today. 7952 04:22:27,938 --> 04:22:28,739 You did not alter the agenda 7953 04:22:28,739 --> 04:22:29,673 and allow public comment at 7954 04:22:29,673 --> 04:22:30,273 the beginning of the meeting 7955 04:22:30,273 --> 04:22:32,476 and this resolution went into 7956 04:22:32,476 --> 04:22:33,610 effect AUGUST 6. So I'm going 7957 04:22:33,610 --> 04:22:38,410 to ask you to do that for your 7958 04:22:38,482 --> 04:22:40,318 evening session here. 4 7959 04:22:40,318 --> 04:22:42,185 o'clock alter the agenda 7960 04:22:42,185 --> 04:22:43,860 before you go into your home 7961 04:22:43,860 --> 04:22:45,656 eating and technically that it 7962 04:22:45,656 --> 04:22:47,158 should have been printed up 7963 04:22:47,158 --> 04:22:48,159 that way. But that's up to the 7964 04:22:48,159 --> 04:22:49,893 city manager. Do a direct U.S. 7965 04:22:49,893 --> 04:22:52,290 Clerk out a pretty pretty 7966 04:22:52,290 --> 04:22:53,597 agenda. So I'm asking you come 7967 04:22:53,597 --> 04:22:54,131 in compliance with your own 7968 04:22:54,131 --> 04:22:55,867 rules and regulations and 7969 04:22:55,867 --> 04:22:57,567 thank you for the additional 7970 04:22:57,567 --> 04:22:58,136 time. Thank. Thank you, MR. 7971 04:22:58,136 --> 04:22:58,836 More. We'll take a look at 7972 04:22:58,836 --> 04:22:59,837 that during the break. I'll 7973 04:22:59,837 --> 04:23:00,404 talk to the city attorney and 7974 04:23:00,404 --> 04:23:01,606 the city clerk will look at 7975 04:23:01,606 --> 04:23:02,173 that. Thank you. 7976 04:23:02,173 --> 04:23:04,573 >> Margaret. And then Sarah 7977 04:23:16,788 --> 04:23:17,322 Compton. My name is mark for 7978 04:23:17,322 --> 04:23:19,322 Merrill. I recited 16, 15 7979 04:23:20,258 --> 04:23:21,159 Washington Street. 7980 04:23:21,159 --> 04:23:23,928 >> I had a pet peeve when I 7981 04:23:23,928 --> 04:23:24,528 sat in one of your seats and 7982 04:23:24,528 --> 04:23:26,764 I'm hoping you all as a group 7983 04:23:26,764 --> 04:23:30,364 will address. I hope that you 7984 04:23:30,502 --> 04:23:31,969 all will agree that there will 7985 04:23:31,969 --> 04:23:32,471 be no use of personal 7986 04:23:32,471 --> 04:23:34,471 cellphones while you're 7987 04:23:35,907 --> 04:23:37,910 sitting up there or your 7988 04:23:37,910 --> 04:23:40,112 personal computers to do 7989 04:23:40,112 --> 04:23:41,612 personal business. It's very 7990 04:23:41,612 --> 04:23:43,615 distracting. And it gives the 7991 04:23:43,615 --> 04:23:45,383 impression that you are either 7992 04:23:45,383 --> 04:23:46,151 not prepared or you're taking 7993 04:23:46,151 --> 04:23:48,551 additional comments that the 7994 04:23:50,880 --> 04:23:51,890 rest of us cannot hear or c 7995 04:23:51,890 --> 04:23:52,230 and I really think we need to 7996 04:23:52,230 --> 04:23:52,591 limit that type of 7997 04:23:52,591 --> 04:23:54,591 communication while you're 7998 04:23:56,662 --> 04:23:58,897 sitting up there. I hope that 7999 04:23:58,897 --> 04:24:01,700 at some point somebody will 8000 04:24:01,700 --> 04:24:03,902 address and prior to 10 year 8001 04:24:03,902 --> 04:24:06,705 charter that we need to have a 8002 04:24:06,705 --> 04:24:07,306 different set of minimum 8003 04:24:07,306 --> 04:24:09,608 residencies. Once someone is 8004 04:24:09,608 --> 04:24:12,210 running for office in the city 8005 04:24:12,210 --> 04:24:13,790 and that we don't just have 8006 04:24:13,790 --> 04:24:15,147 somebody living at the address 8007 04:24:15,147 --> 04:24:17,116 on the day of the election. 8008 04:24:17,116 --> 04:24:19,351 And be happy to work with 8009 04:24:19,351 --> 04:24:20,153 someone to get that resolution 8010 04:24:20,153 --> 04:24:22,621 up there because to say you 8011 04:24:22,621 --> 04:24:24,657 only have to live in the city 8012 04:24:24,657 --> 04:24:25,524 one year and then be at the 8013 04:24:25,524 --> 04:24:26,910 residence of a particular 8014 04:24:26,910 --> 04:24:29,691 district on the day of the 8015 04:24:30,263 --> 04:24:30,796 election. It's just not right. 8016 04:24:30,796 --> 04:24:34,233 The other thing I want to 8017 04:24:34,233 --> 04:24:36,269 mention is that. We are a city 8018 04:24:36,269 --> 04:24:38,669 manager form of government. 8019 04:24:38,971 --> 04:24:40,140 And the thing that has really 8020 04:24:40,140 --> 04:24:43,740 bothered me in the past year 8021 04:24:44,978 --> 04:24:45,578 is to see some of Josiah that 8022 04:24:45,578 --> 04:24:47,747 occured between that position 8023 04:24:47,747 --> 04:24:50,517 and positions on the diocese. 8024 04:24:50,517 --> 04:24:51,830 There are 500 employees that 8025 04:24:51,830 --> 04:24:54,830 report up through the city 8026 04:24:54,888 --> 04:24:57,288 manager. The mayor and 8027 04:24:57,690 --> 04:24:59,593 commissioners are policy board 8028 04:24:59,593 --> 04:25:00,593 and you all are supposed to be 8029 04:25:00,593 --> 04:25:01,228 directing individual staff 8030 04:25:01,228 --> 04:25:03,397 members are department members 8031 04:25:03,397 --> 04:25:06,997 to do something. But the one 8032 04:25:07,233 --> 04:25:08,368 thing I'm hoping to see and 8033 04:25:08,368 --> 04:25:09,335 Sam, I will give you credit 8034 04:25:09,335 --> 04:25:09,936 for starting out the meeting 8035 04:25:09,936 --> 04:25:13,536 with the things that you want 8036 04:25:14,410 --> 04:25:14,941 to see done with respect to 8037 04:25:14,941 --> 04:25:15,542 working together, respect and 8038 04:25:15,542 --> 04:25:18,780 all of that. I hope it does 8039 04:25:18,780 --> 04:25:21,678 come to fruition. But I'd like 8040 04:25:23,417 --> 04:25:24,218 to suggest something that if 8041 04:25:24,218 --> 04:25:25,786 groups where people cannot 8042 04:25:25,786 --> 04:25:28,186 work together. And a 8043 04:25:29,790 --> 04:25:30,357 professional manager and come 8044 04:25:30,357 --> 04:25:31,124 consensus. It don't have to 8045 04:25:31,124 --> 04:25:33,270 like each other. You don't 8046 04:25:33,270 --> 04:25:34,494 have to socialize with each 8047 04:25:34,494 --> 04:25:37,798 other. But if you cannot come 8048 04:25:37,798 --> 04:25:39,433 and work with each other and 8049 04:25:39,433 --> 04:25:41,833 consensus that I would 8050 04:25:42,135 --> 04:25:43,303 strongly recommend that both 8051 04:25:43,303 --> 04:25:45,703 parties involved and those 8052 04:25:45,772 --> 04:25:48,476 should. We say brouhaha public 8053 04:25:48,476 --> 04:25:50,876 displays that both parties 8054 04:25:53,881 --> 04:25:54,982 should resign. Thank you for 8055 04:25:54,982 --> 04:25:55,817 your consideration. I guess 8056 04:25:55,817 --> 04:25:57,819 we'll see each other soon for 8057 04:25:57,819 --> 04:26:00,819 clock right? Thank you. And 8058 04:26:06,361 --> 04:26:07,962 Sarah. I'm Sara content of 8059 04:26:07,962 --> 04:26:09,864 that 19. 0, one. South 8060 04:26:09,864 --> 04:26:10,832 Roosevelt, MR. Mayor and 8061 04:26:10,832 --> 04:26:12,832 commissioners. 8062 04:26:14,869 --> 04:26:15,503 >> First, I would just like to 8063 04:26:15,503 --> 04:26:16,370 to the city manager's comments 8064 04:26:16,370 --> 04:26:19,637 in his report. I want to 8065 04:26:19,741 --> 04:26:21,275 recognize city staff in 8066 04:26:21,275 --> 04:26:21,843 addition to working with newly 8067 04:26:21,843 --> 04:26:24,243 elected officials to bring 8068 04:26:25,380 --> 04:26:28,383 them up to speed and they have 8069 04:26:28,383 --> 04:26:32,870 also reached out to us who are 8070 04:26:32,870 --> 04:26:32,687 still running to help any 8071 04:26:32,687 --> 04:26:35,870 future transition easier. And 8072 04:26:35,456 --> 04:26:36,490 for that, I'm very, very 8073 04:26:36,490 --> 04:26:39,490 grateful. And briefly on back 8074 04:26:41,896 --> 04:26:42,664 to speech, I just wanted to 8075 04:26:42,664 --> 04:26:43,231 state that I agreed with 8076 04:26:43,231 --> 04:26:45,231 commissioners, Haskell and 8077 04:26:46,680 --> 04:26:48,971 Kerry. And I don't think that 8078 04:26:48,971 --> 04:26:50,380 postponement was necessary. 8079 04:26:50,380 --> 04:26:51,606 I'd ask you to consider 8080 04:26:51,606 --> 04:26:54,600 bringing back a narrower 8081 04:26:55,277 --> 04:26:56,344 resolution in OCTOBER that 8082 04:26:56,344 --> 04:26:56,461 simply brings b# 8083 04:26:56,461 --> 04:26:56,570 # 8084 04:26:56,570 --> 04:26:56,674 # 8085 04:26:56,674 --> 04:26:56,780 # 8086 04:26:56,780 --> 04:26:57,211 # 8087 04:26:57,211 --> 04:26:58,280 and 8088 04:26:58,280 --> 04:26:58,881 associates into the process 8089 04:26:58,881 --> 04:27:00,881 without endorsing any 8090 04:27:01,883 --> 04:27:02,951 particular master plan. I 8091 04:27:02,951 --> 04:27:03,786 think that having the 8092 04:27:03,786 --> 04:27:06,186 professionals at the table 8093 04:27:06,621 --> 04:27:09,491 early makes the public process 8094 04:27:09,491 --> 04:27:10,892 better. It lets them get out 8095 04:27:10,892 --> 04:27:12,728 to Hicks with to talk to the 8096 04:27:12,728 --> 04:27:14,630 community and the neighbors in 8097 04:27:14,630 --> 04:27:15,831 our kids and have the 8098 04:27:15,831 --> 04:27:18,831 professionals there to help us 8099 04:27:18,834 --> 04:27:21,103 as the public understand 8100 04:27:21,103 --> 04:27:21,703 what's possible and what 8101 04:27:21,703 --> 04:27:22,271 isn't. I really think that it 8102 04:27:22,271 --> 04:27:24,172 could be beneficial to 8103 04:27:24,172 --> 04:27:27,172 everyone involved to have them 8104 04:27:27,210 --> 04:27:28,444 involved as early as possible. 8105 04:27:28,444 --> 04:27:30,145 And there is a lot to be 8106 04:27:30,145 --> 04:27:31,447 excited about. And I would 8107 04:27:31,447 --> 04:27:33,549 just hate to lose the momentum 8108 04:27:33,549 --> 04:27:34,116 by putting this off all the 8109 04:27:34,116 --> 04:27:36,652 way to NOVEMBER. And that's 8110 04:27:36,652 --> 04:27:37,420 all. Thank you so much. And 8111 04:27:37,420 --> 04:27:40,420 that's it will move to 8112 04:27:41,900 --> 04:27:41,691 commission comments. 8113 04:27:41,691 --> 04:27:45,291 >> Who wants to go first? Any 8114 04:27:45,894 --> 04:27:46,963 commission. I want 8115 04:27:46,963 --> 04:27:48,963 commissioner Castillo. Okay. 8116 04:27:49,299 --> 04:27:51,200 First and foremost, I want to 8117 04:27:51,200 --> 04:27:53,600 congratulate elected mayor and 8118 04:27:56,306 --> 04:27:59,306 commissioner and also to build 8119 04:27:59,442 --> 04:28:03,420 To the city and anybody else 8120 04:28:03,313 --> 04:28:06,313 that came aboard. And moving 8121 04:28:06,383 --> 04:28:08,783 with the goodwill momentum 8122 04:28:12,355 --> 04:28:15,920 that we have had. Previous. To 8123 04:28:15,920 --> 04:28:16,860 moving forward. I just like 8124 04:28:16,860 --> 04:28:18,995 full the community to know 8125 04:28:18,995 --> 04:28:21,298 one. You Brian, that. We 8126 04:28:21,298 --> 04:28:23,698 should killed funded 2 years 8127 04:28:24,368 --> 04:28:25,690 in a row together in 8128 04:28:25,690 --> 04:28:27,103 Tallahassee. And I know 8129 04:28:27,103 --> 04:28:30,730 through all the budget cuts, 8130 04:28:30,730 --> 04:28:33,673 it's going to be hard. To 8131 04:28:34,344 --> 04:28:36,744 continue securing these here. 8132 04:28:40,818 --> 04:28:41,418 As appointed as I want you to 8133 04:28:41,418 --> 04:28:41,952 know how hard and diligently 8134 04:28:41,952 --> 04:28:44,188 worked in Tallahassee to 8135 04:28:44,188 --> 04:28:47,788 secure with that. And if you 8136 04:28:48,250 --> 04:28:49,527 would pass it on to. The city 8137 04:28:49,527 --> 04:28:53,127 manager spay and how we work 8138 04:28:55,166 --> 04:28:56,633 that it. What you was there 8139 04:28:56,633 --> 04:28:57,235 one year Lisette would be was 8140 04:28:57,235 --> 04:29:00,710 there one knee at Tesco? You 8141 04:29:00,710 --> 04:29:03,374 is there with But we managed 8142 04:29:03,374 --> 04:29:04,142 to get out of all the cities. 8143 04:29:04,142 --> 04:29:06,411 We will. We will manage to be 8144 04:29:06,411 --> 04:29:08,178 lucky and got everything we 8145 04:29:08,178 --> 04:29:09,130 aksed full. So I want to give 8146 04:29:09,130 --> 04:29:12,613 kudos to you. Also, MISS City 8147 04:29:13,984 --> 04:29:15,787 manager. I know. Like I say 8148 04:29:15,787 --> 04:29:16,653 with all the cuts, this 8149 04:29:16,653 --> 04:29:20,253 coming. I know we're going to 8150 04:29:22,393 --> 04:29:22,993 have to do it again. 8151 04:29:22,993 --> 04:29:23,394 Congratulations. 8152 04:29:23,394 --> 04:29:24,262 Congratulations. 8153 04:29:24,262 --> 04:29:26,262 Congratulations and 8154 04:29:30,435 --> 04:29:32,270 congratulations that MAY 8155 04:29:32,270 --> 04:29:34,305 >> Well, you know, be ending. 8156 04:29:34,305 --> 04:29:36,410 Sit next to me. I was I was 8157 04:29:36,410 --> 04:29:37,742 saving the best for last 8158 04:29:37,742 --> 04:29:41,342 because he wanted to walk in 8159 04:29:41,713 --> 04:29:42,247 to my funeral homes a 8160 04:29:42,247 --> 04:29:45,247 customer. And that say we 8161 04:29:46,318 --> 04:29:46,918 don't take walk-ins. But as a 8162 04:29:46,918 --> 04:29:49,918 commission that he could sit 8163 04:29:51,656 --> 04:29:55,256 next to me, look you. We've 8164 04:29:55,593 --> 04:29:56,261 been buddies for over 45 years 8165 04:29:56,261 --> 04:29:57,529 yet. 8166 04:29:57,529 --> 04:29:59,131 >> That we to a 45. It's been 8167 04:29:59,131 --> 04:30:01,400 a long See, did you want end 8168 04:30:01,400 --> 04:30:01,934 it? I just look forward to 8169 04:30:01,934 --> 04:30:04,334 working with everybody up 8170 04:30:04,903 --> 04:30:08,940 here. I see that I hate to see 8171 04:30:08,940 --> 04:30:09,508 the go put. We'll put some 8172 04:30:09,508 --> 04:30:11,877 money and that's you. But I 8173 04:30:11,877 --> 04:30:12,644 think we can jailed together 8174 04:30:12,644 --> 04:30:14,579 here guys and make it happen. 8175 04:30:14,579 --> 04:30:18,179 Been on a look at diocese. 8176 04:30:18,751 --> 04:30:19,652 Trust reit. Over the years. 8177 04:30:19,652 --> 04:30:23,252 See a lot of promise with 8178 04:30:23,755 --> 04:30:24,623 everybody here and Monaco on 8179 04:30:24,623 --> 04:30:26,125 that thing with the commute, 8180 04:30:26,125 --> 04:30:29,262 the cameras and I got. I'm 8181 04:30:29,262 --> 04:30:32,862 with you on that, too. But 8182 04:30:33,266 --> 04:30:34,333 birthday buddy, there we 2 8183 04:30:34,333 --> 04:30:34,900 ends of the state here. We 8184 04:30:34,900 --> 04:30:37,300 have Seybert that everyone 8185 04:30:37,437 --> 04:30:38,404 knew that. But how to be 8186 04:30:38,404 --> 04:30:41,404 short. But look forward to 8187 04:30:41,607 --> 04:30:42,241 working with everybody. Brian, 8188 04:30:42,241 --> 04:30:45,841 going to get together up there 8189 04:30:45,978 --> 04:30:46,578 the next couple days and see 8190 04:30:46,578 --> 04:30:50,778 where else we can go on this 8191 04:30:51,484 --> 04:30:51,951 budget. All right. 8192 04:30:51,951 --> 04:30:53,951 Commissioner Haskell. 8193 04:30:54,420 --> 04:30:55,221 >> I apologize for jumping in 8194 04:30:55,221 --> 04:30:55,789 earlier with my commission 8195 04:30:55,789 --> 04:30:58,789 comments. So next time, you 8196 04:31:00,930 --> 04:31:00,827 know, feel free bring the hook 8197 04:31:00,827 --> 04:31:03,950 and real me back. It was it 8198 04:31:03,950 --> 04:31:06,695 was legal related. So it was 8199 04:31:08,602 --> 04:31:12,339 ok, but would like let that to 8200 04:31:12,339 --> 04:31:15,339 see that contract the the 8201 04:31:15,375 --> 04:31:15,976 commission approved its in the 8202 04:31:15,976 --> 04:31:17,976 NOVEMBER 2025 agenda packet. 8203 04:31:19,313 --> 04:31:21,548 And there's the contract and 8204 04:31:21,548 --> 04:31:22,649 there's the 15 page itemized 8205 04:31:22,649 --> 04:31:26,219 list of all the equipment and 8206 04:31:26,219 --> 04:31:27,190 services that we purchased 8207 04:31:27,190 --> 04:31:27,554 that was approved in not 8208 04:31:27,554 --> 04:31:28,655 involved in the NOVEMBER 8209 04:31:28,655 --> 04:31:30,655 meeting. 8210 04:31:36,163 --> 04:31:37,264 >> see that. Vice Mayor just 8211 04:31:37,264 --> 04:31:39,133 like to say happy birthday to 8212 04:31:39,133 --> 04:31:40,634 both of you. Graduation is to 8213 04:31:40,634 --> 04:31:41,201 both of you and 8214 04:31:41,201 --> 04:31:41,835 congratulations to the new 8215 04:31:41,835 --> 04:31:43,170 mayor. Look forward to working 8216 04:31:43,170 --> 04:31:45,570 with. The new commission. 8217 04:31:48,750 --> 04:31:48,943 Thank you. Commissioner 8218 04:31:48,943 --> 04:31:49,543 mascot. 8219 04:31:49,543 --> 04:31:51,378 >> I just want to say that I 8220 04:31:51,378 --> 04:31:54,214 I'm the only one here that has 8221 04:31:54,214 --> 04:31:56,550 never sitting on this ties 8222 04:31:56,550 --> 04:31:58,385 before. So it's my first 8223 04:31:58,385 --> 04:31:58,986 meeting at least 48, I guess 8224 04:31:58,986 --> 04:32:01,986 for the next 4 years. Looking 8225 04:32:02,323 --> 04:32:03,157 forward to it. I'm learning 8226 04:32:03,157 --> 04:32:04,992 what I have been going to the 8227 04:32:04,992 --> 04:32:05,593 city commission meetings for 8228 04:32:05,593 --> 04:32:08,593 the last 2 years reverse and 8229 04:32:08,930 --> 04:32:09,463 what the issues are. But I'm 8230 04:32:09,463 --> 04:32:12,463 very excited to work with 8231 04:32:15,102 --> 04:32:15,737 commission here. So thank you. 8232 04:32:15,737 --> 04:32:16,838 Commissioner Carey, to make it 8233 04:32:16,838 --> 04:32:19,238 real prefer congratulations to 8234 04:32:19,641 --> 04:32:22,641 those that are on the 8235 04:32:23,278 --> 04:32:24,712 diocese's won the elections 8236 04:32:24,712 --> 04:32:25,780 and wanted to say thank you 8237 04:32:25,780 --> 04:32:27,749 again to staff for the also 8238 04:32:27,749 --> 04:32:30,749 little pocket Park on Flagler. 8239 04:32:31,218 --> 04:32:31,820 There are families using it. 8240 04:32:31,820 --> 04:32:34,522 We stopped by last night. We 8241 04:32:34,522 --> 04:32:37,522 got out by 11 o'clock because 8242 04:32:38,259 --> 04:32:39,127 that's when the park But it's 8243 04:32:39,127 --> 04:32:40,562 really awesome. So I hope to 8244 04:32:40,562 --> 04:32:43,562 bring forward a resolution at 8245 04:32:43,932 --> 04:32:45,667 next month's meeting to name 8246 04:32:45,667 --> 04:32:49,203 the and maybe a little, maybe 8247 04:32:49,203 --> 04:32:50,137 a little contest for the 8248 04:32:50,137 --> 04:32:53,137 naming of that part. Thank 8249 04:32:53,475 --> 04:32:54,420 you, guys is I know. I know it 8250 04:32:54,420 --> 04:32:56,812 was a heavy lift, but it's 8251 04:32:56,812 --> 04:32:59,212 it's great Commissioner yet 8252 04:32:59,614 --> 04:33:01,614 just one more 8253 04:33:01,683 --> 04:33:03,952 >> For those of you out there, 8254 04:33:03,952 --> 04:33:05,888 that's that's looking the 8255 04:33:05,888 --> 04:33:06,688 reason why the park oath mlk 8256 04:33:06,688 --> 04:33:09,880 Nelson, English. It's because 8257 04:33:09,910 --> 04:33:12,691 of the turtle nest the Navy 8258 04:33:14,830 --> 04:33:16,198 annex to City. Am I correct? 8259 04:33:16,198 --> 04:33:19,198 Extra city? Could they turned 8260 04:33:21,871 --> 04:33:23,539 the coming in close? They turn 8261 04:33:23,539 --> 04:33:24,106 on the lights a little So 8262 04:33:24,106 --> 04:33:26,709 that's not a problem there. 8263 04:33:26,709 --> 04:33:28,243 But soon this the nest and 8264 04:33:28,243 --> 04:33:31,243 season and we'll go back 11 8265 04:33:34,583 --> 04:33:37,583 o'clock. And the other thing 8266 04:33:38,454 --> 04:33:39,550 out district 6, me then has 8267 04:33:39,550 --> 04:33:40,590 been moved up to 6.30, due to 8268 04:33:40,590 --> 04:33:44,190 the budget here in on the 8269 04:33:45,628 --> 04:33:46,229 10th. And I don't think that 8270 04:33:46,229 --> 04:33:48,498 was informed to anybody. So I 8271 04:33:48,498 --> 04:33:49,866 want you to know that the 8272 04:33:49,866 --> 04:33:52,866 district 6 medium will be on 8273 04:33:53,970 --> 04:33:54,603 that and it will be at 6.30 8274 04:33:54,603 --> 04:33:55,238 Thank you. Great. And no, I'll 8275 04:33:55,238 --> 04:33:56,906 just wrap it up with just a 8276 04:33:56,906 --> 04:33:58,941 few very quick things because 8277 04:33:58,941 --> 04:34:01,177 it's late. But I want to say 8278 04:34:01,177 --> 04:34:01,778 also happy birthday to our 2 8279 04:34:01,778 --> 04:34:02,479 Amazing at the same birthday. 8280 04:34:02,479 --> 04:34:05,815 So next year will be prepared. 8281 04:34:05,815 --> 04:34:06,416 Better prepared for that. 8282 04:34:06,416 --> 04:34:06,916 >> Thus the sargasso meeting 8283 04:34:06,916 --> 04:34:09,316 on the twenty-second at 8284 04:34:09,686 --> 04:34:11,821 03:00pm is really important. 8285 04:34:11,821 --> 04:34:13,390 It is an emergent public 8286 04:34:13,390 --> 04:34:16,390 health hazard for locals. It's 8287 04:34:17,590 --> 04:34:17,961 got some serious economic 8288 04:34:17,961 --> 04:34:18,562 consequences. So I really 8289 04:34:18,562 --> 04:34:20,863 encourage everyone to soon as 8290 04:34:20,863 --> 04:34:22,320 the presentation is available 8291 04:34:22,320 --> 04:34:23,299 on our Web site. Please take a 8292 04:34:23,299 --> 04:34:24,133 look at the presentation. DR. 8293 04:34:24,133 --> 04:34:26,169 Brian Lapointe is an expert. 8294 04:34:26,169 --> 04:34:27,603 Was his residence in Big Pine 8295 04:34:27,603 --> 04:34:28,138 and it's really exciting the 8296 04:34:28,138 --> 04:34:30,940 fact that we can actually 8297 04:34:30,940 --> 04:34:31,507 potentially do something as a 8298 04:34:31,507 --> 04:34:34,770 city which I had not known 8299 04:34:34,770 --> 04:34:36,113 prior to about a month ago. I 8300 04:34:36,113 --> 04:34:37,247 want to mention that for 8301 04:34:37,247 --> 04:34:39,647 strategic planning. I would 8302 04:34:40,383 --> 04:34:41,384 ask the commission to consider 8303 04:34:41,384 --> 04:34:42,286 some some delay. And the 8304 04:34:42,286 --> 04:34:44,880 reason is meeting with our 8305 04:34:44,880 --> 04:34:45,923 strategic planning, a person 8306 04:34:45,923 --> 04:34:46,523 tomorrow. But I really think 8307 04:34:46,523 --> 04:34:49,523 we need a commission specific 8308 04:34:50,895 --> 04:34:51,495 centered workshop. What 8309 04:34:51,495 --> 04:34:53,998 Commissioner Ross he said is 8310 04:34:53,998 --> 04:34:55,132 exactly right. We need to gel. 8311 04:34:55,132 --> 04:34:56,600 We need to bond. We need to 8312 04:34:56,600 --> 04:34:57,267 get to know each other and 8313 04:34:57,267 --> 04:34:59,203 it's an opportunity for us to 8314 04:34:59,203 --> 04:35:01,720 come together on our arc 8315 04:35:01,720 --> 04:35:03,472 common priorities. We haven't 8316 04:35:04,741 --> 04:35:05,209 done that yet. And I think 8317 04:35:05,209 --> 04:35:05,776 it's important in the 8318 04:35:05,776 --> 04:35:07,780 strategic planning process 8319 04:35:07,780 --> 04:35:08,646 that we have buy-in from the 8320 04:35:08,646 --> 04:35:11,460 beginning. All 7 of us, 8321 04:35:11,516 --> 04:35:12,650 whatever the decision is, 8322 04:35:12,650 --> 04:35:13,217 whatever the will is of the 8323 04:35:13,217 --> 04:35:13,851 commission. But we have to 8324 04:35:13,851 --> 04:35:16,453 know what that is. And we have 8325 04:35:16,453 --> 04:35:17,540 to be supportive of it because 8326 04:35:17,540 --> 04:35:18,589 the decisions we make for the 8327 04:35:18,589 --> 04:35:21,589 next 2 years and 4 years will 8328 04:35:21,793 --> 04:35:22,493 be tied to the strategic plan. 8329 04:35:22,493 --> 04:35:24,629 So this decision should not 8330 04:35:24,629 --> 04:35:27,532 important that we have place, 8331 04:35:27,532 --> 04:35:28,866 but we first have to agree, 8332 04:35:28,866 --> 04:35:29,834 Collette. We have to agree 8333 04:35:29,834 --> 04:35:31,690 collectively, all 7 us that 8334 04:35:31,690 --> 04:35:32,871 this is right. So I want first 8335 04:35:32,871 --> 04:35:33,938 I want to talk to our 8336 04:35:33,938 --> 04:35:34,739 strategic planner and the 8337 04:35:34,739 --> 04:35:35,273 problem is SEPTEMBER's tight. 8338 04:35:35,273 --> 04:35:35,906 We are we have to budget 8339 04:35:35,906 --> 04:35:38,906 meetings. We have a special 8340 04:35:38,942 --> 04:35:39,677 meet with lot of stuff. So I'm 8341 04:35:39,677 --> 04:35:40,278 not sure we can get all this 8342 04:35:40,278 --> 04:35:42,980 done between now and OCTOBER 8343 04:35:42,980 --> 04:35:43,481 one, but that's something to 8344 04:35:43,481 --> 04:35:44,150 think about. I'm really 8345 04:35:44,150 --> 04:35:46,415 excited about the housing 8346 04:35:46,718 --> 04:35:48,854 assessment. We approved today. 8347 04:35:48,854 --> 04:35:49,454 This is going to be really 8348 04:35:49,454 --> 04:35:50,388 important that will inform us 8349 04:35:50,388 --> 04:35:54,259 of what we're going to do for 8350 04:35:54,259 --> 04:35:54,893 housing going forward. So 8351 04:35:54,893 --> 04:35:55,727 let's all look and monitor the 8352 04:35:55,727 --> 04:35:56,260 progress of that housing 8353 04:35:56,260 --> 04:35:58,660 assessment. Thank you for 8354 04:36:00,665 --> 04:36:01,166 doing that. Staff. Lastly, I 8355 04:36:01,166 --> 04:36:01,666 want to say I'm looking 8356 04:36:01,666 --> 04:36:04,369 forward to being at the 8357 04:36:04,369 --> 04:36:05,337 district 6 meeting. This is 8358 04:36:05,337 --> 04:36:06,738 the first year the city will 8359 04:36:06,738 --> 04:36:10,541 have a can or a on Kwanzaa. 8360 04:36:10,541 --> 04:36:13,445 Very happy about that. It's 8361 04:36:13,445 --> 04:36:14,790 showing inclusivity that are 8362 04:36:14,790 --> 04:36:14,713 African-American community are 8363 04:36:14,713 --> 04:36:16,849 going to be a Bayview Park for 8364 04:36:16,849 --> 04:36:17,616 the celebration of Kwanzaa and 8365 04:36:17,616 --> 04:36:18,182 we're going and the thank you 8366 04:36:18,182 --> 04:36:20,553 city staff for making sure 8367 04:36:20,553 --> 04:36:21,853 we're going to an r a I think 8368 04:36:21,853 --> 04:36:23,550 that's important. So I hope we 8369 04:36:23,550 --> 04:36:25,791 can talk about that a district 8370 04:36:25,791 --> 04:36:26,358 6, because I want to make sure 8371 04:36:26,358 --> 04:36:28,594 that the residents ares in 8372 04:36:28,594 --> 04:36:29,194 support of the selection of 8373 04:36:29,194 --> 04:36:30,662 that can are. And, you know, 8374 04:36:30,662 --> 04:36:32,164 we're all on the same page for 8375 04:36:32,164 --> 04:36:32,731 that. And by the way, 8376 04:36:32,731 --> 04:36:33,332 Commissioner Casteel, we're 8377 04:36:33,332 --> 04:36:36,101 going have to fix that Wi-Fi 8378 04:36:36,101 --> 04:36:38,203 at the project. That's all for 8379 04:36:38,203 --> 04:36:40,372 now. With that. We are in 8380 04:36:40,372 --> 04:36:40,973 recess until 05:00pm for this 8381 04:36:40,973 --> 04:36:41,473 meeting. And don't forget, we 8382 04:36:41,473 --> 04:36:43,542 have special meeting at 8383 04:36:43,542 --> 04:36:44,110 04:00pm. Is a separate 8384 04:36:44,110 --> 04:36:46,311 meeting. We have a special 8385 04:36:46,311 --> 04:36:49,140 meeting at 04:00pm, but this 8386 04:36:49,140 --> 04:36:49,615 meeting recess until 05:00pm. 8387 04:36:49,615 --> 04:36:52,615 The continuation of the city 8388 04:36:58,805 --> 04:37:00,805 >> Reconvening the city 8389 04:37:01,942 --> 04:37:02,510 commission meeting. Thank you, 8390 04:37:02,510 --> 04:37:04,578 ladies and gentlemen. We're 8391 04:37:04,578 --> 04:37:05,146 going start. 8392 04:37:05,146 --> 04:37:07,546 >> MADAM Clerk, what's the 8393 04:37:09,283 --> 04:37:09,917 next item? Well, we have to do 8394 04:37:09,917 --> 04:37:12,917 roll call. That's right. Let's 8395 04:37:16,257 --> 04:37:20,457 roll. Call. I like this a good 8396 04:37:22,763 --> 04:37:24,565 do it hard. That ready go for 8397 04:37:24,565 --> 04:37:25,533 Commissioner Carey here. 8398 04:37:25,533 --> 04:37:26,100 Commissioner Castillo, Mayor 8399 04:37:26,100 --> 04:37:27,969 Commissioner Haskell here, 8400 04:37:27,969 --> 04:37:29,871 Commissioner Lee commissioner 8401 04:37:29,871 --> 04:37:31,871 mascot here. 8402 04:37:35,710 --> 04:37:38,110 >> Mayor Coffman here. Okay. 8403 04:37:40,381 --> 04:37:41,549 Ladies and gentleman. Ladies 8404 04:37:41,549 --> 04:37:43,949 and gentlemen, we're starting 8405 04:37:44,285 --> 04:37:46,421 next session. Thank you. So 8406 04:37:46,421 --> 04:37:47,220 please stand for indication by 8407 04:37:47,220 --> 04:37:50,220 Madeline bomb followed by the 8408 04:37:56,465 --> 04:37:57,166 Pledge of Allegiance. Good 8409 04:37:57,166 --> 04:37:57,732 evening, everyone. Please join 8410 04:37:57,732 --> 04:37:59,567 me in an attitude of prayer 8411 04:37:59,567 --> 04:38:01,567 and meditation. 8412 04:38:02,771 --> 04:38:04,105 >> Got of us all. 8413 04:38:04,105 --> 04:38:04,539 >> Known by many names and 8414 04:38:04,539 --> 04:38:06,539 understood and many 8415 04:38:07,476 --> 04:38:08,900 traditions. We come before you 8416 04:38:08,900 --> 04:38:10,409 tonight with humility and 8417 04:38:11,981 --> 04:38:12,781 hope. In this moment of 8418 04:38:12,781 --> 04:38:15,781 transition for our city. MAY 8419 04:38:16,451 --> 04:38:17,190 we all take a deep breath? And 8420 04:38:17,190 --> 04:38:17,552 breathe into our Long's the 8421 04:38:17,552 --> 04:38:19,454 breath of life that comes 8422 04:38:19,454 --> 04:38:22,900 directly from you and allows 8423 04:38:22,900 --> 04:38:22,624 us to live and to thrive in 8424 04:38:22,624 --> 04:38:25,624 this world that you have 8425 04:38:26,950 --> 04:38:26,696 created. Tonight as we 8426 04:38:26,696 --> 04:38:29,431 continue our meeting, help us 8427 04:38:29,431 --> 04:38:31,831 to set aside anger, 8428 04:38:32,168 --> 04:38:33,369 disappointment and division 8429 04:38:33,369 --> 04:38:36,472 and remind us of our shared 8430 04:38:36,472 --> 04:38:37,573 responsibility to one another. 8431 04:38:37,573 --> 04:38:40,573 Grant us wisdom to listen, 8432 04:38:41,143 --> 04:38:43,246 courage to lead compassion, to 8433 04:38:43,246 --> 04:38:43,813 heal and grace to disagree 8434 04:38:43,813 --> 04:38:46,813 without losing sight of our 8435 04:38:47,349 --> 04:38:47,916 common humanity. We recognize 8436 04:38:47,916 --> 04:38:50,916 that these meetings are not 8437 04:38:51,987 --> 04:38:52,955 always easy. Strong 8438 04:38:52,955 --> 04:38:55,355 convictions are expressed in 8439 04:38:55,825 --> 04:38:56,526 difficult words are sometimes 8440 04:38:56,526 --> 04:38:59,526 spoken. Emotions can at times 8441 04:39:00,529 --> 04:39:01,631 be close to the surface. Yeah, 8442 04:39:01,631 --> 04:39:02,598 we gather once more with the 8443 04:39:02,598 --> 04:39:04,998 responsibility to listen to 8444 04:39:05,501 --> 04:39:08,104 deliberate and to serve. Give 8445 04:39:08,104 --> 04:39:09,706 us the wisdom to pause before 8446 04:39:09,706 --> 04:39:11,507 we react, the courage to hear 8447 04:39:11,507 --> 04:39:13,142 perspectives different from 8448 04:39:13,142 --> 04:39:13,776 our own and the humility to 8449 04:39:13,776 --> 04:39:17,130 recognize that none of us sees 8450 04:39:17,130 --> 04:39:18,582 the whole picture. When 8451 04:39:18,582 --> 04:39:20,582 disagreement becomes personal. 8452 04:39:20,650 --> 04:39:22,585 Remind us of our shared 8453 04:39:22,585 --> 04:39:23,860 humanity when frustration 8454 04:39:23,860 --> 04:39:25,486 overwhelms us, give us 8455 04:39:26,890 --> 04:39:27,858 patience. Mavis Commission 8456 04:39:27,858 --> 04:39:29,392 lead with integrity and 8457 04:39:29,392 --> 04:39:30,160 remember that every person who 8458 04:39:30,160 --> 04:39:31,895 comes before us is someone who 8459 04:39:31,895 --> 04:39:34,895 deserves to be heard and 8460 04:39:36,660 --> 04:39:37,935 treated with dignity. Help us 8461 04:39:37,935 --> 04:39:39,970 eat not simply to prevail in 8462 04:39:39,970 --> 04:39:40,704 an argument, but to find the 8463 04:39:40,704 --> 04:39:41,304 best path forward for the 8464 04:39:41,304 --> 04:39:44,304 community. We have all been 8465 04:39:45,409 --> 04:39:46,343 entrusted to serve. They are 8466 04:39:46,343 --> 04:39:47,578 words tonight bring clarity 8467 04:39:47,578 --> 04:39:49,120 rather than confusion and 8468 04:39:49,120 --> 04:39:50,800 understanding rather than 8469 04:39:50,800 --> 04:39:53,800 division. And when we leave 8470 04:39:54,418 --> 04:39:56,453 this we have moved in even a 8471 04:39:56,453 --> 04:39:58,555 small way closer to becoming 8472 04:39:58,555 --> 04:39:59,189 the one human family. We hope 8473 04:39:59,189 --> 04:40:00,624 to be in the name of all. That 8474 04:40:00,624 --> 04:40:04,824 is good. And holy, we all say 8475 04:40:08,599 --> 04:40:09,167 Amen. 8476 04:40:09,167 --> 04:40:12,167 >> And to the Republic for 8477 04:40:12,503 --> 04:40:13,604 which it stands. One nation 8478 04:40:13,604 --> 04:40:16,400 under GOD, indivisible, with 8479 04:40:21,446 --> 04:40:24,446 liberty and justice for all. 8480 04:40:24,783 --> 04:40:25,517 Approval of agenda. Are there 8481 04:40:25,517 --> 04:40:28,517 changes to the agenda? Yes, 8482 04:40:30,354 --> 04:40:30,921 number 48 is withdrawn number. 8483 04:40:30,921 --> 04:40:31,556 49 requests to postpone. We 8484 04:40:31,556 --> 04:40:35,930 will take a motion when we get 8485 04:40:35,930 --> 04:40:38,693 to that item. Okay. Move to 8486 04:40:43,801 --> 04:40:45,801 of. 50. Both told 50. 8487 04:40:45,870 --> 04:40:46,504 >> So there's a recall to hold 8488 04:40:46,504 --> 04:40:48,600 Hold on get your microphone is 8489 04:40:48,600 --> 04:40:48,573 not or does it. Okay. 8490 04:40:48,573 --> 04:40:49,975 Commissioner Kaseya you're 8491 04:40:49,975 --> 04:40:52,975 gonna say something on own 8492 04:40:55,513 --> 04:40:57,215 item. 50. Mikes are off. Lot 8493 04:40:57,215 --> 04:41:01,415 of them. I I do. All right. 8494 04:41:03,889 --> 04:41:06,889 Hold on. Hello. The okay. 8495 04:41:07,225 --> 04:41:08,226 Commissioner Castillo item 50. 8496 04:41:08,226 --> 04:41:10,226 There's some discrepancies 8497 04:41:13,265 --> 04:41:16,865 inside of MAY I suggest that 8498 04:41:16,936 --> 04:41:20,138 we take that up when when 8499 04:41:20,138 --> 04:41:22,410 number comes on consent. I did 8500 04:41:22,410 --> 04:41:22,874 speak to Kindle downs in the 8501 04:41:22,874 --> 04:41:23,476 end Will said when it come 8502 04:41:23,476 --> 04:41:26,780 will address that when we get 8503 04:41:26,780 --> 04:41:29,247 to number 50, okay, I move to 8504 04:41:29,247 --> 04:41:32,247 approve the agenda as so. 8505 04:41:34,219 --> 04:41:35,530 Approving the agenda with the 8506 04:41:35,530 --> 04:41:37,453 removal or withdraw or 8507 04:41:38,257 --> 04:41:38,858 withdrawing item. 48. And 8508 04:41:38,858 --> 04:41:41,858 otherwise it all staying the 8509 04:41:42,160 --> 04:41:43,162 same for now. Is there a 8510 04:41:43,162 --> 04:41:45,598 motion? We have a motion 8511 04:41:45,598 --> 04:41:46,980 approved Commissioner Carey 8512 04:41:46,980 --> 04:41:46,766 second by Commissioner 8513 04:41:46,766 --> 04:41:48,767 Castillo. All those in favor 8514 04:41:48,767 --> 04:41:52,367 say Aye, aye, all star, MR. 48 8515 04:41:56,876 --> 04:41:57,943 or 40. 48 is the zoning map 8516 04:41:57,943 --> 04:41:58,544 interpretation for 2 to 407, 8517 04:41:58,544 --> 04:42:00,846 northwest Tech for yes, yes, 8518 04:42:00,846 --> 04:42:01,847 okay. Thank you. Okay. All 8519 04:42:01,847 --> 04:42:03,650 those in favor. Please say 8520 04:42:03,650 --> 04:42:06,650 Aye. Aye. Any opposed hearing. 8521 04:42:07,319 --> 04:42:08,521 None motion carries 8522 04:42:08,521 --> 04:42:10,356 discussion. Item number. 45 8523 04:42:10,356 --> 04:42:11,591 water, quality testing 8524 04:42:11,591 --> 04:42:12,192 program. And we have 2 8525 04:42:12,192 --> 04:42:15,192 speakers, Bart Smith and then 8526 04:42:25,238 --> 04:42:25,872 Arlo has school. 8527 04:42:25,872 --> 04:42:28,872 >> Good evening. Part Smith on 8528 04:42:30,143 --> 04:42:33,460 behalf of peer be. So we're 8529 04:42:33,460 --> 04:42:34,914 here tonight on the water 8530 04:42:34,914 --> 04:42:35,548 quality monitoring. And we 8531 04:42:35,548 --> 04:42:38,548 also have attached the College 8532 04:42:39,352 --> 04:42:41,721 of Florida Keys. Epa report 8533 04:42:41,721 --> 04:42:42,722 the epa report was published 8534 04:42:42,722 --> 04:42:45,122 and really nothing shattering 8535 04:42:47,327 --> 04:42:48,428 or a note. You're sure water 8536 04:42:48,428 --> 04:42:50,428 qualities, fine. The 8537 04:42:50,598 --> 04:42:51,198 phosphorus levels are lower 8538 04:42:51,198 --> 04:42:51,832 nearshore water quality. And 8539 04:42:51,832 --> 04:42:54,368 as you move offshore, nitrogen 8540 04:42:54,368 --> 04:42:55,503 levels are lower. 8541 04:42:55,503 --> 04:42:59,103 >> Which is what was to be 8542 04:42:59,507 --> 04:43:00,173 expected. So the reality is 8543 04:43:00,173 --> 04:43:02,209 the report really didn't bring 8544 04:43:02,209 --> 04:43:04,278 any earth shattering news. 8545 04:43:04,278 --> 04:43:07,278 However, the study does raise 8546 04:43:07,748 --> 04:43:11,118 a lot of questions the study 8547 04:43:11,118 --> 04:43:11,719 cites the epa grant and sites 8548 04:43:11,719 --> 04:43:14,789 that efi you was the testing 8549 04:43:14,789 --> 04:43:15,356 entity. As I thought you've 8550 04:43:15,356 --> 04:43:18,356 been provided any copies of 8551 04:43:18,960 --> 04:43:19,527 this report. Has that fire, 8552 04:43:19,527 --> 04:43:22,527 you repeat, very viewed or 8553 04:43:24,332 --> 04:43:25,466 prove this report. In fact. As 8554 04:43:25,466 --> 04:43:26,334 the water, quite city of Key 8555 04:43:26,334 --> 04:43:28,734 West Water Quality Steering 8556 04:43:30,338 --> 04:43:30,938 committee seen this report. It 8557 04:43:30,938 --> 04:43:33,641 has a water quality steering 8558 04:43:33,641 --> 04:43:36,410 committee review this report. 8559 04:43:37,712 --> 04:43:39,748 Even more so has our water 8560 04:43:39,748 --> 04:43:42,160 close to committee reviewed 8561 04:43:42,160 --> 04:43:45,616 the proposals of Stan Tech or 8562 04:43:46,521 --> 04:43:47,689 the request for money. It is 8563 04:43:47,689 --> 04:43:48,289 my understanding that the 8564 04:43:48,289 --> 04:43:48,856 water quality steering 8565 04:43:48,856 --> 04:43:51,626 committee that the city has 8566 04:43:51,626 --> 04:43:52,293 appointed has not Im, not 8567 04:43:52,293 --> 04:43:54,196 reviewed any of the 8568 04:43:54,196 --> 04:43:56,596 expenditures not review the 8569 04:43:57,565 --> 04:43:58,133 reports. Im not provide been 8570 04:43:58,133 --> 04:44:01,133 even convene to provide any 8571 04:44:02,403 --> 04:44:04,506 input. Fact, when was the last 8572 04:44:04,506 --> 04:44:07,376 time the board, even that? It 8573 04:44:07,376 --> 04:44:08,610 really has. And that's a 8574 04:44:08,610 --> 04:44:10,445 failure that the city has 8575 04:44:10,445 --> 04:44:12,514 appointed a steering committee 8576 04:44:12,514 --> 04:44:14,416 that filled with professionals 8577 04:44:14,416 --> 04:44:15,551 in the field water quality. 8578 04:44:15,551 --> 04:44:17,653 That should be guiding the 8579 04:44:17,653 --> 04:44:18,220 discussion before this board. 8580 04:44:18,220 --> 04:44:21,230 And they're not even being 8581 04:44:21,230 --> 04:44:22,658 convened to discuss what is 8582 04:44:22,658 --> 04:44:23,425 being done. What's being 8583 04:44:23,425 --> 04:44:25,825 proposed? They were the 8584 04:44:26,128 --> 04:44:27,950 money's being spent. If you 8585 04:44:27,950 --> 04:44:29,931 look at the report that was 8586 04:44:29,931 --> 04:44:31,767 provided by the college, it 8587 04:44:31,767 --> 04:44:32,401 talks about, you know, doing 8588 04:44:32,401 --> 04:44:34,801 some monitoring, ordering some 8589 04:44:34,837 --> 04:44:37,837 equipment. And what we're rid 8590 04:44:38,507 --> 04:44:39,108 of the city's money go 180,000 8591 04:44:39,108 --> 04:44:41,508 went to underwater autonomous 8592 04:44:41,510 --> 04:44:45,110 torpedo. But if you read the 8593 04:44:45,748 --> 04:44:46,949 report, it wasn't used. Reason 8594 04:44:46,949 --> 04:44:47,883 was couldn't operate encourage 8595 04:44:47,883 --> 04:44:50,883 more than 1.5 miles per hour, 8596 04:44:51,320 --> 04:44:51,921 which standard currents in the 8597 04:44:51,921 --> 04:44:54,321 shipping channel. And there's 8598 04:44:54,690 --> 04:44:56,492 no place long pick it up. So 8599 04:44:56,492 --> 04:44:57,590 the city basically gave 8600 04:44:57,590 --> 04:44:59,896 180,000 over for a piece of 8601 04:44:59,896 --> 04:45:00,863 equipment that could even use. 8602 04:45:00,863 --> 04:45:02,863 There's almost 300,000 spent 8603 04:45:03,165 --> 04:45:03,667 by the college of the city's 8604 04:45:03,667 --> 04:45:06,670 Marty. Really can't be 8605 04:45:08,271 --> 04:45:10,673 identified. What was the use? 8606 04:45:10,673 --> 04:45:11,274 Before the city goes and start 8607 04:45:11,274 --> 04:45:11,774 spending more money and more 8608 04:45:11,774 --> 04:45:12,375 wall of water, quality 8609 04:45:12,375 --> 04:45:14,775 monitoring more water quality 8610 04:45:15,778 --> 04:45:18,178 reports. It should identify 8611 04:45:18,682 --> 04:45:19,182 what is really necessary. And 8612 04:45:19,182 --> 04:45:20,783 what's not necessary as 8613 04:45:20,783 --> 04:45:23,783 reports like this. Lets be 8614 04:45:25,322 --> 04:45:26,155 clear. That's a prop. A loss 8615 04:45:26,155 --> 04:45:29,155 from that's a little cruise 8616 04:45:29,659 --> 04:45:30,226 ships or otherwise is not 8617 04:45:30,226 --> 04:45:31,261 clear at one minute apart. 8618 04:45:31,261 --> 04:45:31,828 Smith, just one moment. 8619 04:45:31,828 --> 04:45:34,228 >> I appreciate that. Thank 8620 04:45:36,867 --> 04:45:37,800 you. Is not regulated. And the 8621 04:45:37,800 --> 04:45:38,769 tradition, the creative that 8622 04:45:38,769 --> 04:45:41,438 is temporary from ships in 8623 04:45:41,438 --> 04:45:44,341 their operation. Is not a 8624 04:45:44,341 --> 04:45:44,942 violation any water quality. 8625 04:45:44,942 --> 04:45:47,578 The city attorney has stated 8626 04:45:47,578 --> 04:45:51,178 this on the record. And this 8627 04:45:51,882 --> 04:45:52,516 is fact this is the law. So 8628 04:45:52,516 --> 04:45:53,830 before spending more money and 8629 04:45:53,830 --> 04:45:55,286 more time about what we're 8630 04:45:55,286 --> 04:45:57,870 going to do. Let's get the 8631 04:45:57,870 --> 04:45:58,121 steering committee. The 8632 04:45:58,121 --> 04:45:58,688 professionals involved have 8633 04:45:58,688 --> 04:46:00,358 them review the things that 8634 04:46:00,358 --> 04:46:00,892 stand tech is proposing and 8635 04:46:00,892 --> 04:46:03,292 provide feedback to this 8636 04:46:06,396 --> 04:46:06,931 commission. 8637 04:46:06,931 --> 04:46:09,931 >> Our low and then will 8638 04:46:12,603 --> 04:46:14,603 Benson. Mayor Coffman 8639 04:46:15,539 --> 04:46:16,507 commissioners are low Haskell 8640 04:46:16,507 --> 04:46:17,410 7.16, love Lane. 8641 04:46:17,410 --> 04:46:17,975 >> I watched the meeting 8642 04:46:17,975 --> 04:46:18,709 online this morning and I just 8643 04:46:18,709 --> 04:46:21,709 want to say first, how 8644 04:46:22,513 --> 04:46:23,140 refreshing it is to have a new 8645 04:46:23,140 --> 04:46:24,349 commission up there in 8646 04:46:24,349 --> 04:46:25,482 particular, Commissioner Rossi 8647 04:46:25,482 --> 04:46:26,500 commissioner mascot. Really 8648 04:46:26,500 --> 04:46:27,819 nice to see the energy and 8649 04:46:27,819 --> 04:46:28,752 sites you bring to the 8650 04:46:28,752 --> 04:46:29,353 commission. Mayor Coffman, 8651 04:46:29,353 --> 04:46:34,153 happy to have you in a new a 8652 04:46:34,893 --> 04:46:35,460 new chair up there I know you 8653 04:46:35,460 --> 04:46:37,562 add a lot, you know, to to 8654 04:46:37,562 --> 04:46:39,263 this body. And unfortunately, 8655 04:46:39,263 --> 04:46:41,132 you also have some messes to 8656 04:46:41,132 --> 04:46:41,733 clean up that came before you 8657 04:46:41,733 --> 04:46:43,702 that are not of you're doing 8658 04:46:43,702 --> 04:46:46,102 and water quality monitoring 8659 04:46:47,739 --> 04:46:50,409 is a big one of those in APRIL 8660 04:46:50,409 --> 04:46:51,409 of 2022, the city amended its 8661 04:46:51,409 --> 04:46:54,460 code to adopt chapter 80's 8662 04:46:54,460 --> 04:46:54,612 cruise ship regulations. And 8663 04:46:54,612 --> 04:46:57,612 this requires that the city 8664 04:46:57,982 --> 04:46:58,616 test the waters waters within 8665 04:46:58,616 --> 04:47:01,486 its control for water, quality 8666 04:47:01,486 --> 04:47:03,421 violations caused by cruise 8667 04:47:03,421 --> 04:47:04,255 ships. Now, since the city's 8668 04:47:04,255 --> 04:47:06,124 only controls the waters 8669 04:47:06,124 --> 04:47:08,159 within 600 feet of the 8670 04:47:08,159 --> 04:47:09,940 shoreline. And since cruise 8671 04:47:09,940 --> 04:47:10,295 ships only operate in a very 8672 04:47:10,295 --> 04:47:11,196 small area of that, it's 8673 04:47:11,196 --> 04:47:13,999 really pretty easy for the 8674 04:47:13,999 --> 04:47:15,166 city to meet its legal 8675 04:47:15,166 --> 04:47:16,468 obligations. The city found a 8676 04:47:16,468 --> 04:47:19,468 brilliant way to address these 8677 04:47:20,104 --> 04:47:21,540 obligations in the past with 8678 04:47:21,540 --> 04:47:23,509 an autonomous monitoring 8679 04:47:23,509 --> 04:47:25,477 system that was mounted to its 8680 04:47:25,477 --> 04:47:26,945 yellow man property at Mallory 8681 04:47:26,945 --> 04:47:29,345 Square. This system wasn't 8682 04:47:30,715 --> 04:47:32,851 perfect. It failed to test for 8683 04:47:32,851 --> 04:47:34,987 markers of exhaust scrubber 8684 04:47:34,987 --> 04:47:35,520 discharge or the ballast tank 8685 04:47:35,520 --> 04:47:37,890 discharges that have been 8686 04:47:37,890 --> 04:47:39,910 linked to stony coral tissue 8687 04:47:39,910 --> 04:47:40,259 loss disease. But it was a 8688 04:47:40,259 --> 04:47:42,659 very simple, very inexpensive 8689 04:47:42,929 --> 04:47:44,300 model that could be built on. 8690 04:47:44,300 --> 04:47:45,364 And we know it works. Part of 8691 04:47:45,364 --> 04:47:46,532 the reason that that MR. Smith 8692 04:47:46,532 --> 04:47:47,132 can say there's nothing 8693 04:47:47,132 --> 04:47:49,532 groundbreaking in this report 8694 04:47:50,569 --> 04:47:53,506 is that the key findings were 8695 04:47:53,506 --> 04:47:54,106 reported over a year ago. 35 8696 04:47:54,106 --> 04:47:54,974 violations of state, federal 8697 04:47:54,974 --> 04:47:57,374 water quality standards by 8698 04:47:58,770 --> 04:48:00,477 cruise ships operating appear 8699 04:48:00,913 --> 04:48:02,140 be unfortunately with with 8700 04:48:02,140 --> 04:48:02,882 lobbying from MR. Smith and 8701 04:48:02,882 --> 04:48:03,382 those that control peer be the 8702 04:48:03,382 --> 04:48:05,782 city ordered that that 8703 04:48:06,920 --> 04:48:07,553 equipment be removed. We've 8704 04:48:07,553 --> 04:48:10,553 had no heart harbor monitoring 8705 04:48:11,458 --> 04:48:15,161 since that time. This is not a 8706 04:48:15,161 --> 04:48:15,862 cost issue. Chapter 80 8707 04:48:15,862 --> 04:48:16,662 provides funding for this 8708 04:48:16,662 --> 04:48:19,565 program in the revenue from 8709 04:48:19,565 --> 04:48:21,668 cruise ship disembark Haitians 8710 04:48:21,668 --> 04:48:23,169 we've taken in millions in 8711 04:48:23,169 --> 04:48:23,769 disembarkation revenue since 8712 04:48:23,769 --> 04:48:26,169 terminating the program. But 8713 04:48:26,305 --> 04:48:29,305 we haven't used it. I'm 8714 04:48:32,146 --> 04:48:32,879 looking Program update from 8715 04:48:32,879 --> 04:48:35,749 from Stan Tech Task 0, where 8716 04:48:35,749 --> 04:48:36,817 talks about Key West Harbor 8717 04:48:36,817 --> 04:48:38,718 monitoring. It says they 8718 04:48:38,718 --> 04:48:40,753 submitted a plan to the city 8719 04:48:40,753 --> 04:48:43,560 in MARCH 6 months ago and a 8720 04:48:43,560 --> 04:48:43,824 technical memorandum in MAY, 8721 04:48:43,824 --> 04:48:45,391 but it says the city's 8722 04:48:45,391 --> 04:48:47,391 purchase of monitoring 8723 04:48:49,363 --> 04:48:49,896 equipment is still pending. My 8724 04:48:49,896 --> 04:48:52,366 big question today is why 8725 04:48:52,366 --> 04:48:52,899 hasn't the city bought that 8726 04:48:52,899 --> 04:48:53,634 equipment yet? It's been 8727 04:48:53,634 --> 04:48:54,668 approved. It doesn't cost very 8728 04:48:54,668 --> 04:48:56,337 much. It's easy to install. It 8729 04:48:56,337 --> 04:48:56,903 would be located on city 8730 04:48:56,903 --> 04:48:59,903 property. What is the city 8731 04:49:01,740 --> 04:49:02,542 waiting for? There's a lot to 8732 04:49:02,542 --> 04:49:03,143 address on water, quality 8733 04:49:03,143 --> 04:49:03,644 monitoring. I'm really happy 8734 04:49:03,644 --> 04:49:05,780 to have this, you know, 8735 04:49:05,780 --> 04:49:06,847 discussion item here, but I'm 8736 04:49:06,847 --> 04:49:07,481 asking you all on the 8737 04:49:07,481 --> 04:49:09,317 commission to, you know, first 8738 04:49:09,317 --> 04:49:11,919 of all, fix what was broken by 8739 04:49:11,919 --> 04:49:13,520 the former commission. Let's 8740 04:49:13,520 --> 04:49:14,121 bring back the Yellow Man 8741 04:49:14,121 --> 04:49:16,457 monitoring station be done in 8742 04:49:16,457 --> 04:49:19,293 just a second. Let's bring 8743 04:49:19,293 --> 04:49:19,861 back the elm and monitoring 8744 04:49:19,861 --> 04:49:20,694 station Florida had another 8745 04:49:20,694 --> 04:49:21,329 minute are low. You don't have 8746 04:49:21,329 --> 04:49:22,597 to rush. Okay. Another minute. 8747 04:49:22,597 --> 04:49:24,732 Almost done an ok, you'll be 8748 04:49:24,732 --> 04:49:27,732 happy. No. Bring back that 8749 04:49:27,768 --> 04:49:28,336 yellow man monitoring updated 8750 04:49:28,336 --> 04:49:29,603 with sensors that look for 8751 04:49:29,603 --> 04:49:30,839 exhaust scrubber discharge 8752 04:49:30,839 --> 04:49:31,439 ballast tank. Water discharge 8753 04:49:31,439 --> 04:49:33,410 so it can, you know, capture 8754 04:49:33,410 --> 04:49:35,176 what it missed before. And 8755 04:49:35,176 --> 04:49:37,178 that's it. I mean, fix what 8756 04:49:37,178 --> 04:49:38,746 was broken first move on to 8757 04:49:38,746 --> 04:49:39,347 the rest of all these valuable 8758 04:49:39,347 --> 04:49:41,747 needed water quality issues. 8759 04:49:43,840 --> 04:49:45,530 Thank you all for your look 8760 04:49:45,530 --> 04:49:48,530 forward to the discussion. And 8761 04:49:54,529 --> 04:49:55,630 will Benson. 8762 04:49:55,630 --> 04:49:56,330 >> Good afternoon. Good 8763 04:49:56,330 --> 04:49:57,320 evening. My name is will 8764 04:49:57,320 --> 04:49:58,933 Benson and I'm from Sugarloaf 8765 04:49:58,933 --> 04:50:00,334 Key, but I'm a charter boat. 8766 04:50:00,334 --> 04:50:02,837 Captain here in Qs run a small 8767 04:50:02,837 --> 04:50:03,772 business out of Key West. Also 8768 04:50:03,772 --> 04:50:07,372 a member of the safer cleaner 8769 04:50:08,176 --> 04:50:10,112 ships and crew. First, want to 8770 04:50:10,112 --> 04:50:10,845 say congratulations for all of 8771 04:50:10,845 --> 04:50:11,447 you guys to one year 8772 04:50:11,447 --> 04:50:14,447 elections. It's great to have 8773 04:50:15,651 --> 04:50:16,518 a new diets up here. I 8774 04:50:16,518 --> 04:50:18,918 obviously echo everything that 8775 04:50:20,550 --> 04:50:22,557 our low just said. But I was I 8776 04:50:22,557 --> 04:50:24,793 wanted to do be make make this 8777 04:50:24,793 --> 04:50:25,694 very driving in today. I was 8778 04:50:25,694 --> 04:50:27,730 listening to a little bit of 8779 04:50:27,730 --> 04:50:28,363 the conversation that was just 8780 04:50:28,363 --> 04:50:29,231 happening about our our city 8781 04:50:29,231 --> 04:50:30,832 manager and one of the common 8782 04:50:30,832 --> 04:50:34,102 themes that we heard was, you 8783 04:50:34,102 --> 04:50:34,870 know, consistency. As we 8784 04:50:34,870 --> 04:50:36,706 wanted to have steady 8785 04:50:36,706 --> 04:50:38,373 leadership. We want to have 8786 04:50:38,373 --> 04:50:38,908 steady consistency and I would 8787 04:50:38,908 --> 04:50:41,908 offer that the same thing 8788 04:50:41,944 --> 04:50:42,578 applies to water quality. And 8789 04:50:42,578 --> 04:50:46,181 I want you guys to think about 8790 04:50:46,181 --> 04:50:48,818 that. Because we had a really, 8791 04:50:48,818 --> 04:50:49,385 really great program in place. 8792 04:50:49,385 --> 04:50:52,880 We had, you know, matching 8793 04:50:52,880 --> 04:50:55,291 funding. We had the college of 8794 04:50:55,291 --> 04:50:56,525 the Florida Keys engaged. And 8795 04:50:56,525 --> 04:50:57,159 for some reason this 8796 04:50:57,159 --> 04:51:00,159 commission came along and took 8797 04:51:00,696 --> 04:51:03,696 a great program. Ruined, ended 8798 04:51:04,200 --> 04:51:06,869 the consistency. And I can 8799 04:51:06,869 --> 04:51:07,337 tell you from the water's not 8800 04:51:07,337 --> 04:51:07,837 only in Key West but 8801 04:51:07,837 --> 04:51:09,710 throughout the keys and 8802 04:51:09,710 --> 04:51:11,471 throughout the state. There's 8803 04:51:13,343 --> 04:51:15,878 a lot going on both good and 8804 04:51:15,878 --> 04:51:18,140 bad. And the important thing 8805 04:51:18,140 --> 04:51:18,948 to understand is is to have 8806 04:51:18,948 --> 04:51:22,180 that data have the science and 8807 04:51:22,180 --> 04:51:22,618 have the consistency of 8808 04:51:22,618 --> 04:51:23,253 monitoring. 8809 04:51:23,253 --> 04:51:23,853 >> Inshore offshore so that we 8810 04:51:23,853 --> 04:51:26,589 can put all of the pieces of 8811 04:51:26,589 --> 04:51:28,591 the puzzle together. So as you 8812 04:51:28,591 --> 04:51:30,927 guys kind of consider what to 8813 04:51:30,927 --> 04:51:31,461 do here, we know how important 8814 04:51:31,461 --> 04:51:32,595 water quality is to this 8815 04:51:32,595 --> 04:51:34,995 community to the businesses, 8816 04:51:35,565 --> 04:51:37,601 to the citizens. And I would 8817 04:51:37,601 --> 04:51:38,969 like challenge all of you guys 8818 04:51:38,969 --> 04:51:42,390 to have the leadership to say 8819 04:51:42,390 --> 04:51:43,974 consistent on this issue. Read 8820 04:51:43,974 --> 04:51:46,374 the law, looking understand 8821 04:51:47,778 --> 04:51:48,278 what the problems are because, 8822 04:51:48,278 --> 04:51:49,880 yes, there might not be 8823 04:51:49,880 --> 04:51:50,380 anything new there like MR. 8824 04:51:50,380 --> 04:51:53,350 Smith says, but it's a 8825 04:51:53,350 --> 04:51:54,618 consistent violation. This is 8826 04:51:54,618 --> 04:51:55,152 what we need to understand. If 8827 04:51:55,152 --> 04:51:58,152 we're going to have some 8828 04:51:58,221 --> 04:51:58,789 solution to this, we need to 8829 04:51:58,789 --> 04:52:00,357 have good data. We need to 8830 04:52:00,357 --> 04:52:02,659 have a good program and we 8831 04:52:02,659 --> 04:52:03,227 need to have a big picture 8832 04:52:03,227 --> 04:52:05,596 view and stay consistent in 8833 04:52:05,596 --> 04:52:06,196 our leadership on that. So 8834 04:52:06,196 --> 04:52:06,796 that's the challenge for you 8835 04:52:06,796 --> 04:52:10,396 guys. And thank you for your 8836 04:52:14,238 --> 04:52:14,806 time. We have our growth 8837 04:52:14,806 --> 04:52:16,806 management director. Thank 8838 04:52:17,141 --> 04:52:18,742 you, MR. Right? 8839 04:52:18,742 --> 04:52:19,276 >> Yes, Good evening. Mayor 8840 04:52:19,276 --> 04:52:19,777 Coffman and commissioners 8841 04:52:19,777 --> 04:52:21,777 Patrick Wright, Growth 8842 04:52:22,746 --> 04:52:23,715 Management Division director. 8843 04:52:23,715 --> 04:52:25,349 Tonight we have a presentation 8844 04:52:25,349 --> 04:52:27,452 from our Stan Tech team on our 8845 04:52:27,452 --> 04:52:29,419 water quality monitoring 8846 04:52:29,419 --> 04:52:30,540 program today. So Ashleigh 8847 04:52:30,540 --> 04:52:33,240 Parks is going to go ahead and 8848 04:52:33,240 --> 04:52:33,491 do that presentation. And then 8849 04:52:33,491 --> 04:52:34,580 Allison Higgins, our 8850 04:52:34,580 --> 04:52:34,625 resiliency manager, myself, 8851 04:52:34,625 --> 04:52:37,625 are here for a follow-up 8852 04:52:49,841 --> 04:52:51,841 questions. Thank you. 8853 04:53:01,190 --> 04:53:04,190 >> Ashley Park some with Stan 8854 04:53:05,390 --> 04:53:06,910 Tech. I would just like to 8855 04:53:06,910 --> 04:53:09,691 verify that you can see my 8856 04:53:10,950 --> 04:53:10,696 presentation on the screen. 8857 04:53:10,696 --> 04:53:13,960 >> Looks like it's floating. 8858 04:53:17,303 --> 04:53:18,437 Yes, yes. Nc it. Okay. Great. 8859 04:53:18,437 --> 04:53:20,720 Thank you for inviting us to 8860 04:53:20,720 --> 04:53:20,705 speak with you today. I am 8861 04:53:20,705 --> 04:53:22,807 pleased to provide you with an 8862 04:53:22,807 --> 04:53:23,341 update on the progress. 8863 04:53:23,341 --> 04:53:23,876 >> That we've made on the 8864 04:53:23,876 --> 04:53:25,876 water quality monitoring 8865 04:53:29,447 --> 04:53:31,160 program. Here's just a quick 8866 04:53:31,160 --> 04:53:33,786 overview of what will be going 8867 04:53:33,786 --> 04:53:35,870 over today. First will be 8868 04:53:35,870 --> 04:53:38,570 revealing the scope of the 8869 04:53:38,570 --> 04:53:40,457 contract. And looking at 8870 04:53:41,660 --> 04:53:42,295 successes to date. Then the 8871 04:53:42,295 --> 04:53:44,695 remaining deliverables for the 8872 04:53:45,965 --> 04:53:48,965 project. And finally, our and 8873 04:53:50,569 --> 04:53:51,137 next steps moving forward. So 8874 04:53:51,137 --> 04:53:54,737 here is an overview of the 8875 04:53:55,942 --> 04:53:58,545 scope. Test. Arrow is to 8876 04:53:58,545 --> 04:54:01,180 resume the key West Harbor 8877 04:54:01,180 --> 04:54:01,748 monitoring task. One is to 8878 04:54:01,748 --> 04:54:04,748 review existing data and it 8879 04:54:05,351 --> 04:54:08,351 opportunities. Task to as for 8880 04:54:08,788 --> 04:54:09,722 the idea of pollution 8881 04:54:09,722 --> 04:54:10,256 mitigation, actions, tasks, 8882 04:54:10,256 --> 04:54:13,256 rainy, the design of the 8883 04:54:13,359 --> 04:54:14,560 water, quality monitoring 8884 04:54:14,560 --> 04:54:16,960 programs test for increased 8885 04:54:17,663 --> 04:54:19,310 availability of recent beach 8886 04:54:19,310 --> 04:54:19,632 reports task. 5 increase 8887 04:54:19,632 --> 04:54:22,320 community knowledge of beach 8888 04:54:23,236 --> 04:54:23,837 data and trends and task 6 8889 04:54:23,837 --> 04:54:24,471 assists with the design of a 8890 04:54:24,471 --> 04:54:26,871 new beach water quality 8891 04:54:30,110 --> 04:54:32,345 monitoring plan. So here is 8892 04:54:32,345 --> 04:54:35,345 summary of work completed to 8893 04:54:37,617 --> 04:54:39,653 date tests. 6 has been 8894 04:54:39,653 --> 04:54:40,420 completed. We developed and 8895 04:54:40,420 --> 04:54:41,540 submitted a beach water 8896 04:54:41,540 --> 04:54:43,454 quality monitoring plans the 8897 04:54:45,125 --> 04:54:46,160 city in FEBRUARY. That scope 8898 04:54:46,160 --> 04:54:48,762 of work was included. And the 8899 04:54:48,762 --> 04:54:51,762 epa grant funding proposal and 8900 04:54:51,765 --> 04:54:52,533 included the use of innovative 8901 04:54:52,533 --> 04:54:53,330 technologies, a newly 8902 04:54:53,330 --> 04:54:53,635 developed sores, tried 8903 04:54:53,635 --> 04:54:56,350 tracking methods, which we're 8904 04:54:58,105 --> 04:55:00,505 really excited about. Toss 0. 8905 04:55:03,243 --> 04:55:04,411 Have is underway. We developed 8906 04:55:04,411 --> 04:55:05,110 a monitoring plan and 8907 04:55:05,110 --> 04:55:08,611 submitted that to the city in 8908 04:55:12,119 --> 04:55:14,121 MARCH. Mahan we at submitted 8909 04:55:14,121 --> 04:55:15,923 an alternative monitoring 8910 04:55:15,923 --> 04:55:17,240 scenarios and included pricing 8911 04:55:17,240 --> 04:55:20,428 for the city to procure the 8912 04:55:20,428 --> 04:55:23,428 Quint just stay within the 8913 04:55:24,666 --> 04:55:26,501 budget outlook for The 8914 04:55:26,501 --> 04:55:27,901 cost-effective option was 8915 04:55:27,901 --> 04:55:29,403 chosen was chosen, which was 8916 04:55:29,403 --> 04:55:30,605 form of late grab samples of 8917 04:55:30,605 --> 04:55:33,500 the harbor. And that's 8918 04:55:33,775 --> 04:55:34,475 sampling. 8919 04:55:34,475 --> 04:55:35,430 >> Will 8920 04:55:35,430 --> 04:55:35,643 >> commence as soon as the 8921 04:55:35,643 --> 04:55:38,643 city prepares equipment to do 8922 04:55:40,181 --> 04:55:43,181 so. Task. One is currently 8923 04:55:46,870 --> 04:55:47,221 underway. We have so far 8924 04:55:47,221 --> 04:55:47,689 collected and processed the 8925 04:55:47,689 --> 04:55:49,758 existing data for the 8926 04:55:49,758 --> 04:55:52,158 geographic areas of concern 8927 04:55:53,695 --> 04:55:55,797 identified in the contract and 8928 04:55:55,797 --> 04:55:57,499 that includes over 395,000 8929 04:55:57,499 --> 04:55:59,434 data point for over 130 8930 04:55:59,434 --> 04:56:02,204 locations. This is a very 8931 04:56:02,204 --> 04:56:04,604 thorough data collection for 8932 04:56:06,341 --> 04:56:06,942 the waters of Key West. We 8933 04:56:06,942 --> 04:56:08,243 recently received the call to 8934 04:56:08,243 --> 04:56:10,643 the Florida Keys Harbor 8935 04:56:12,130 --> 04:56:13,816 monitoring data on epa report. 8936 04:56:13,816 --> 04:56:17,416 And the data included in that 8937 04:56:17,452 --> 04:56:18,487 report, we'll be hit part of 8938 04:56:18,487 --> 04:56:22,870 the task, one effort and will 8939 04:56:22,224 --> 04:56:25,824 be used to and for mitigation 8940 04:56:28,397 --> 04:56:31,397 actions as part of task. 2. 8941 04:56:31,500 --> 04:56:32,670 Moving on to task that will 8942 04:56:32,670 --> 04:56:35,667 use the results of the data 8943 04:56:36,505 --> 04:56:38,400 analysis. Completed under task 8944 04:56:38,400 --> 04:56:38,741 one, which will include the 8945 04:56:38,741 --> 04:56:39,308 results of the harbor 8946 04:56:39,308 --> 04:56:41,308 monitoring, completed under 8947 04:56:43,312 --> 04:56:45,712 task. 0. And the Deliverable 8948 04:56:45,981 --> 04:56:47,830 for this task will provide 8949 04:56:47,830 --> 04:56:47,917 mitigation actions with costs 8950 04:56:47,917 --> 04:56:50,317 for city implementation, for 8951 04:56:52,789 --> 04:56:54,156 pollutant load reduction. 8952 04:56:54,156 --> 04:56:55,191 Task. 3 is kind of the meat 8953 04:56:55,191 --> 04:56:55,792 and potatoes of the contract 8954 04:56:55,792 --> 04:56:58,962 with the design of the water 8955 04:56:58,962 --> 04:56:59,562 quality monitoring programs. 8956 04:56:59,562 --> 04:57:02,565 That will use the results of 8957 04:57:02,565 --> 04:57:04,534 tasks wanted to. This will 8958 04:57:04,534 --> 04:57:05,768 provide the design of 8959 04:57:05,768 --> 04:57:07,470 science-based, comprehensive 8960 04:57:07,470 --> 04:57:08,238 water quality monitoring plan 8961 04:57:08,238 --> 04:57:10,638 that will comply chapter 81 8962 04:57:12,542 --> 04:57:14,344 implemented. This plan. 8963 04:57:14,344 --> 04:57:14,977 Implementation will provide 8964 04:57:14,977 --> 04:57:15,444 meaningful data-driven results 8965 04:57:15,444 --> 04:57:17,844 that can guide future 8966 04:57:18,348 --> 04:57:18,948 mitigation and management. And 8967 04:57:18,948 --> 04:57:21,348 improvement of water quality 8968 04:57:22,552 --> 04:57:25,552 in the city's waters. Task 8969 04:57:29,159 --> 04:57:29,826 for. Has. Funding for task 8970 04:57:29,826 --> 04:57:32,826 force has been reallocated to 8971 04:57:35,232 --> 04:57:35,865 test 0 because we are seeking 8972 04:57:35,865 --> 04:57:38,265 and alternative funding source 8973 04:57:39,269 --> 04:57:39,503 for task for. 8974 04:57:39,503 --> 04:57:41,503 >> The 8975 04:57:44,374 --> 04:57:46,309 >> plan developed under task 6 8976 04:57:46,309 --> 04:57:46,810 for that was submitted to the 8977 04:57:46,810 --> 04:57:47,978 epa as that alternative 8978 04:57:47,978 --> 04:57:50,978 funding sources, what will be 8979 04:57:52,216 --> 04:57:54,616 used 2? Eventually get task 8980 04:57:56,453 --> 04:57:57,688 for under way. And if an did, 8981 04:57:57,688 --> 04:57:58,255 the sampling would be more 8982 04:57:58,255 --> 04:58:00,255 frequent and comprehensive 8983 04:58:00,791 --> 04:58:01,792 than the current strategy. It 8984 04:58:01,792 --> 04:58:04,192 would increase the frequency 8985 04:58:04,194 --> 04:58:07,194 of sampling to weekly instead 8986 04:58:08,132 --> 04:58:08,766 of current biweekly regimen 8987 04:58:08,766 --> 04:58:12,269 and then expansion of beach, a 8988 04:58:12,269 --> 04:58:14,472 sample from 4 to 7 and per the 8989 04:58:14,472 --> 04:58:17,472 scope of work submitted. And 8990 04:58:19,376 --> 04:58:20,430 our task 6, this could also 8991 04:58:20,430 --> 04:58:22,430 include continuous monitoring 8992 04:58:22,246 --> 04:58:23,113 of fecal indicator bacteria at 8993 04:58:23,113 --> 04:58:26,113 the beaches as well as 8994 04:58:27,885 --> 04:58:29,186 microbial source tracking to 8995 04:58:29,186 --> 04:58:31,388 determine the source is of the 8996 04:58:31,388 --> 04:58:32,323 bacterial pollution at the 8997 04:58:32,323 --> 04:58:34,726 beaches and further and for 8998 04:58:34,726 --> 04:58:36,726 mitigation strategies. And 8999 04:58:39,864 --> 04:58:41,899 task 5. Will be expedited to 9000 04:58:41,899 --> 04:58:43,935 be completed alongside tasks 9001 04:58:43,935 --> 04:58:46,335 2, 3, This will use the 9002 04:58:46,804 --> 04:58:47,438 results of the data analysis 9003 04:58:47,438 --> 04:58:50,308 firm task. One as it applies 9004 04:58:50,308 --> 04:58:51,510 to the beach sampling and will 9005 04:58:51,510 --> 04:58:52,430 provide public communication 9006 04:58:52,430 --> 04:58:54,443 tools with Department of 9007 04:58:55,447 --> 04:58:57,847 Health. Beach health results 9008 04:59:02,287 --> 04:59:05,287 and recommendations. Here is a 9009 04:59:05,590 --> 04:59:06,391 timeline of the tasks moving 9010 04:59:06,391 --> 04:59:08,791 forward. Test 6 was completed 9011 04:59:10,929 --> 04:59:11,697 in FEBRUARY. 0 started in 9012 04:59:11,697 --> 04:59:13,732 MARCH. And that's going to be 9013 04:59:13,732 --> 04:59:14,366 ongoing as sampling is 9014 04:59:14,366 --> 04:59:17,366 implement through the end of 9015 04:59:18,837 --> 04:59:21,237 the contract period. The 9016 04:59:21,941 --> 04:59:24,109 review of existing data began 9017 04:59:24,109 --> 04:59:25,440 in APRIL is ongoing and we'll 9018 04:59:25,440 --> 04:59:27,444 have results delivered in 9019 04:59:30,716 --> 04:59:33,850 DECEMBER of this year. Task to 9020 04:59:33,850 --> 04:59:34,119 try the mitigation actions 9021 04:59:34,119 --> 04:59:37,119 will be presented at the 9022 04:59:37,790 --> 04:59:40,920 deliverable in FEBRUARY of 9023 04:59:40,920 --> 04:59:41,961 2027. The final design of 9024 04:59:41,961 --> 04:59:42,561 water quality monitoring 9025 04:59:42,561 --> 04:59:44,290 programs will be completed by 9026 04:59:44,290 --> 04:59:47,290 APRIL with a report delivery 9027 04:59:49,101 --> 04:59:52,701 in MAY. As stated during the 9028 04:59:53,272 --> 04:59:56,272 previous slide Task. 5 will be 9029 04:59:56,376 --> 04:59:57,877 completed alongside tasks 2, 3 9030 04:59:57,877 --> 04:59:59,479 will we would have those 9031 04:59:59,479 --> 05:00:02,479 products ready to deliver in 9032 05:00:03,682 --> 05:00:06,118 MARCH and task for we are 9033 05:00:06,118 --> 05:00:06,719 going to use the remaining 9034 05:00:06,719 --> 05:00:09,119 funds that weren't allocated 9035 05:00:11,457 --> 05:00:14,893 to expedite test 0 in order to 9036 05:00:14,893 --> 05:00:15,695 refine the proposal for the 9037 05:00:15,695 --> 05:00:18,950 grant funding for the 2027 9038 05:00:21,801 --> 05:00:24,201 cycle. Moving forward. These 9039 05:00:25,472 --> 05:00:28,241 are our next steps. To procure 9040 05:00:28,241 --> 05:00:28,842 the monitoring equipment and 9041 05:00:28,842 --> 05:00:29,443 start monitoring and continue 9042 05:00:29,443 --> 05:00:33,430 that ongoing as part of Task. 9043 05:00:33,580 --> 05:00:36,215 0. We will complete tasks one 9044 05:00:36,215 --> 05:00:38,180 completed data analysis that 9045 05:00:38,180 --> 05:00:38,785 we can begin working on task 9046 05:00:38,785 --> 05:00:41,185 2, 3, We'll use the remaining 9047 05:00:43,190 --> 05:00:43,790 funds to. From test for to 9048 05:00:43,790 --> 05:00:46,790 enhance the proposal for epa 9049 05:00:47,461 --> 05:00:48,695 grant funding. And just an 9050 05:00:48,695 --> 05:00:50,630 update on reporting you will 9051 05:00:50,630 --> 05:00:51,397 be receiving monthly progress 9052 05:00:51,397 --> 05:00:54,134 reports share with you to keep 9053 05:00:54,134 --> 05:00:56,937 you informed of progress. And 9054 05:00:56,937 --> 05:00:57,771 we will also be able to give 9055 05:00:57,771 --> 05:00:58,338 milestone presentations to the 9056 05:00:58,338 --> 05:01:00,738 commission, asked tasks are 9057 05:01:02,676 --> 05:01:03,310 completed. And the immediate 9058 05:01:03,310 --> 05:01:05,412 priority has we are working 9059 05:01:05,412 --> 05:01:06,947 very hard behind the scenes to 9060 05:01:06,947 --> 05:01:10,547 going is to resume the harbor 9061 05:01:12,519 --> 05:01:13,870 water quality monitoring. And 9062 05:01:13,870 --> 05:01:14,870 that is the presentation I 9063 05:01:14,870 --> 05:01:14,655 have for you today. And now we 9064 05:01:14,655 --> 05:01:17,655 can move into questions and 9065 05:01:19,160 --> 05:01:19,727 discussion. Well, thank you so 9066 05:01:19,727 --> 05:01:20,727 much for the presentation. 9067 05:01:20,727 --> 05:01:21,280 Let's bring it back to the 9068 05:01:21,280 --> 05:01:23,280 commission. 9069 05:01:23,300 --> 05:01:25,333 >> Who wants to start? And if 9070 05:01:25,333 --> 05:01:28,333 vice mayor Lee? Thank you, 9071 05:01:31,839 --> 05:01:33,340 Mayor earlier in the week. I 9072 05:01:33,340 --> 05:01:34,242 was told by city management 9073 05:01:34,242 --> 05:01:36,642 that the equipment necessary 9074 05:01:37,845 --> 05:01:39,914 to do the testing was 9075 05:01:39,914 --> 05:01:40,448 purchased? Can someone tell me 9076 05:01:40,448 --> 05:01:41,480 if that's true, what was 9077 05:01:41,480 --> 05:01:44,648 purchased and how much did it 9078 05:01:49,891 --> 05:01:52,291 cost? Good Mayor Coffman 9079 05:01:53,662 --> 05:01:54,296 commissioners, Patrick Graham, 9080 05:01:54,296 --> 05:01:54,863 commissioner leave. Understand 9081 05:01:54,863 --> 05:01:57,263 your question regarding the 9082 05:01:57,299 --> 05:02:00,299 equipment for the testing. It 9083 05:02:01,200 --> 05:02:01,536 is not in purchase just yet to 9084 05:02:01,536 --> 05:02:03,271 the state. We're in the 9085 05:02:03,271 --> 05:02:03,871 process. And I think we're 9086 05:02:03,871 --> 05:02:05,206 almost completed the setting 9087 05:02:05,206 --> 05:02:07,475 up the vendors are procurement 9088 05:02:07,475 --> 05:02:08,109 system. So very close, but we 9089 05:02:08,109 --> 05:02:11,109 have not actually purchase the 9090 05:02:12,780 --> 05:02:14,780 equipment. Just for 9091 05:02:14,883 --> 05:02:15,851 clarification. Are we speaking 9092 05:02:15,851 --> 05:02:17,851 about the continuous 9093 05:02:18,619 --> 05:02:19,420 monitoring in the harbor that 9094 05:02:19,420 --> 05:02:20,220 would be placed at the yellow 9095 05:02:20,220 --> 05:02:22,925 set the quick or This is this 9096 05:02:22,925 --> 05:02:23,525 is the grab sampling. 9097 05:02:23,525 --> 05:02:24,250 >> Testing that would be done 9098 05:02:24,250 --> 05:02:26,425 and not not continuing 9099 05:02:28,898 --> 05:02:29,932 monitor. Okay. So we're just a 9100 05:02:29,932 --> 05:02:30,432 clarification. As far as what 9101 05:02:30,432 --> 05:02:33,432 Vice Mayor Lee was was 9102 05:02:34,303 --> 05:02:36,438 mentioning are we on track 9103 05:02:36,438 --> 05:02:36,906 with buying equipment to be 9104 05:02:36,906 --> 05:02:38,906 placed for continuous 9105 05:02:40,643 --> 05:02:41,110 monitoring at the element. 9106 05:02:41,110 --> 05:02:43,510 There's money in that 9107 05:02:44,447 --> 05:02:45,681 allocated for that. 9108 05:02:45,681 --> 05:02:49,281 >> In this in this task order 9109 05:02:50,119 --> 05:02:52,288 0, if you recall, was approved 9110 05:02:52,288 --> 05:02:53,456 and the funding that was that 9111 05:02:53,456 --> 05:02:54,991 Stanton. But Ford first-half 0 9112 05:02:54,991 --> 05:02:58,591 was not approved by the but 9113 05:02:58,695 --> 05:02:59,262 the commission at that time. 9114 05:02:59,262 --> 05:03:02,862 So what what city staff was 9115 05:03:03,466 --> 05:03:05,568 left with was the budget of 9116 05:03:05,568 --> 05:03:06,135 initially approved tasked with 9117 05:03:06,135 --> 05:03:09,135 the inclusion of Task 0. So 9118 05:03:09,538 --> 05:03:11,473 what we had to do was which 9119 05:03:11,473 --> 05:03:12,108 took time was work through 9120 05:03:12,108 --> 05:03:15,108 shopper, pencils, it Lucas and 9121 05:03:15,378 --> 05:03:16,312 I work very closely and with 9122 05:03:16,312 --> 05:03:18,481 Stantec to figure out a way 9123 05:03:18,481 --> 05:03:19,115 where we could meet all tasks 9124 05:03:19,115 --> 05:03:19,915 and not drop anything from the 9125 05:03:19,915 --> 05:03:21,170 scope because that would have 9126 05:03:21,170 --> 05:03:23,553 to bring back in front of you 9127 05:03:23,553 --> 05:03:25,688 only delaying further testing 9128 05:03:25,688 --> 05:03:26,889 and the most cost-effective 9129 05:03:26,889 --> 05:03:28,240 way to do that for for for 9130 05:03:28,240 --> 05:03:31,461 this. This first year of the 9131 05:03:31,461 --> 05:03:33,296 of the sampling of chapter, 80 9132 05:03:33,296 --> 05:03:35,365 compliance was to purchase the 9133 05:03:35,365 --> 05:03:35,999 the equipment. So yes, I I 9134 05:03:35,999 --> 05:03:38,735 recall that. Thank you for the 9135 05:03:38,735 --> 05:03:39,835 reminder about what happened. 9136 05:03:39,835 --> 05:03:42,805 >> We want to get back to 9137 05:03:42,805 --> 05:03:44,241 continuous monitoring at the 9138 05:03:44,241 --> 05:03:46,430 element. I mean, in order to 9139 05:03:46,430 --> 05:03:46,977 compare apples to apples, what 9140 05:03:46,977 --> 05:03:49,450 we had with the testing 9141 05:03:49,450 --> 05:03:50,470 program with the college of 9142 05:03:50,470 --> 05:03:50,480 the Florida Keys, there is 9143 05:03:50,480 --> 05:03:52,149 continuous testing. 9144 05:03:52,149 --> 05:03:54,149 Unfortunately, the previous 9145 05:03:54,284 --> 05:03:56,353 commission voted to remove 9146 05:03:56,353 --> 05:03:57,454 that equipment which ended up 9147 05:03:57,454 --> 05:03:58,722 costing money that we don't 9148 05:03:58,722 --> 05:03:59,723 have apparently to replace 9149 05:03:59,723 --> 05:04:02,123 that equipment. But that's 9150 05:04:02,459 --> 05:04:03,327 behind us going forward. 9151 05:04:03,327 --> 05:04:05,228 There's a line item in the 9152 05:04:05,228 --> 05:04:06,797 upcoming budget that's set for 9153 05:04:06,797 --> 05:04:08,432 next week for water quality 9154 05:04:08,432 --> 05:04:10,432 monitoring of $250,000. Is 9155 05:04:11,202 --> 05:04:13,637 there money? I'm I'm I'm wrong 9156 05:04:13,637 --> 05:04:17,237 about No, you're not okay. So 9157 05:04:18,275 --> 05:04:19,343 250,000 a line item is part of 9158 05:04:19,343 --> 05:04:22,943 the program for the cycle of 9159 05:04:25,649 --> 05:04:26,117 fiscal year, 27. Will we the 9160 05:04:26,117 --> 05:04:28,117 continuous monitoring 9161 05:04:29,587 --> 05:04:30,188 equipment for the element. So 9162 05:04:30,188 --> 05:04:30,755 that is a decision that that 9163 05:04:30,755 --> 05:04:32,690 you all have to make at the 9164 05:04:32,690 --> 05:04:34,625 end of standards. Current 9165 05:04:34,625 --> 05:04:35,226 contract. 9166 05:04:35,226 --> 05:04:36,327 >> we've already started that 9167 05:04:36,327 --> 05:04:36,927 conversation internally. And 9168 05:04:36,927 --> 05:04:39,297 Alice and I have spoken about 9169 05:04:39,297 --> 05:04:39,831 that. Those funds reserved how 9170 05:04:39,831 --> 05:04:42,831 they complain to the next 9171 05:04:43,334 --> 05:04:43,902 year's contract. Whether we 9172 05:04:43,902 --> 05:04:44,402 renew with Stan Tech or we 9173 05:04:44,402 --> 05:04:45,302 decide to do something 9174 05:04:45,302 --> 05:04:46,605 different, whatever the will 9175 05:04:46,605 --> 05:04:48,139 the commission is at the time. 9176 05:04:48,139 --> 05:04:50,275 But we've absolutely consider 9177 05:04:50,275 --> 05:04:50,875 that. And I and honestly, 9178 05:04:50,875 --> 05:04:53,878 thought that that that MAY be 9179 05:04:53,878 --> 05:04:55,747 coming in. So we've had those 9180 05:04:55,747 --> 05:04:56,314 conversations and want to move 9181 05:04:56,314 --> 05:04:56,882 forward just to finish his 9182 05:04:56,882 --> 05:04:57,381 point bringing back to the 9183 05:04:57,381 --> 05:04:59,781 commission. And want to 9184 05:05:00,752 --> 05:05:03,152 dominate discussion. But the 9185 05:05:03,287 --> 05:05:03,854 do you need a resolution from 9186 05:05:03,854 --> 05:05:05,890 the commission in order to 9187 05:05:05,890 --> 05:05:06,900 move forward with that are 9188 05:05:06,900 --> 05:05:06,691 next. 9189 05:05:06,691 --> 05:05:10,291 >> Meeting is day one of next 9190 05:05:11,960 --> 05:05:12,864 fiscal year. OCTOBER one or 9191 05:05:12,864 --> 05:05:13,865 how would you how would we 9192 05:05:13,865 --> 05:05:14,466 proceed or is that something 9193 05:05:14,466 --> 05:05:17,466 that that staff internally is 9194 05:05:19,471 --> 05:05:22,471 working on? So MR. City 9195 05:05:22,540 --> 05:05:23,709 manager, financial, MR. Maher 9196 05:05:23,709 --> 05:05:25,677 apologize. Thank you, Patrick, 9197 05:05:25,677 --> 05:05:26,711 gotten me jump in. I would 9198 05:05:26,711 --> 05:05:27,312 tell you that it's not 9199 05:05:27,312 --> 05:05:27,913 necessary. We feel like we've 9200 05:05:27,913 --> 05:05:30,883 got in the direction that we 9201 05:05:30,883 --> 05:05:32,883 need. 9202 05:05:34,587 --> 05:05:37,587 >> Ok, thank you. Okay. Bring 9203 05:05:38,791 --> 05:05:39,392 it back to the commission. 9204 05:05:39,392 --> 05:05:40,359 Westwood, do you have I could 9205 05:05:40,359 --> 05:05:43,359 you have a case? Art 9206 05:05:46,198 --> 05:05:46,832 Commissioner Kaseya. 9207 05:05:46,832 --> 05:05:49,832 >> I also want water quality, 9208 05:05:50,569 --> 05:05:51,136 but I do want this. The 9209 05:05:51,136 --> 05:05:53,136 commission didn't terminate 9210 05:05:53,539 --> 05:05:55,674 the college contract. The 9211 05:05:55,674 --> 05:05:56,809 college did not want to renew 9212 05:05:56,809 --> 05:05:59,209 the contract, the equipment 9213 05:06:01,113 --> 05:06:01,714 that they have. We bull. I 9214 05:06:01,714 --> 05:06:03,148 don't know of that equipment 9215 05:06:03,148 --> 05:06:06,148 outdated. This not doing them 9216 05:06:07,253 --> 05:06:09,121 any good. If we can. Have that 9217 05:06:09,121 --> 05:06:11,323 equipment to put back on the 9218 05:06:11,323 --> 05:06:12,258 yellow man. But the question 9219 05:06:12,258 --> 05:06:14,727 that was excellent bout with 9220 05:06:14,727 --> 05:06:16,729 graphs that they show, you're 9221 05:06:16,729 --> 05:06:20,929 not going to tell me it wasn't 9222 05:06:21,330 --> 05:06:21,968 any deep contaminants because 9223 05:06:21,968 --> 05:06:24,637 there was times I couldn't 9224 05:06:24,637 --> 05:06:26,273 even course White Street 9225 05:06:26,273 --> 05:06:28,174 because of the Sawgrass 9226 05:06:28,174 --> 05:06:29,442 decomposition that was out 9227 05:06:29,442 --> 05:06:31,544 there that had to have some 9228 05:06:31,544 --> 05:06:34,544 effect on our water quality. 9229 05:06:34,948 --> 05:06:37,117 So one, all peaches and cream. 9230 05:06:37,117 --> 05:06:37,751 Cause. You know, I mean, that 9231 05:06:37,751 --> 05:06:41,351 side of the island really took 9232 05:06:41,988 --> 05:06:42,622 a bad hit. And as I'm mayor 9233 05:06:42,622 --> 05:06:45,622 stated, that a special meeting 9234 05:06:48,529 --> 05:06:49,563 for the Sawgrass I was trying 9235 05:06:49,563 --> 05:06:53,533 to figure out how it could be 9236 05:06:53,533 --> 05:06:56,370 raked la and all up on top of 9237 05:06:56,370 --> 05:06:59,970 rock said at big speech in. 9238 05:07:01,541 --> 05:07:02,760 It's kind of I don't I don't 9239 05:07:02,760 --> 05:07:03,143 know, will be going to do 9240 05:07:03,143 --> 05:07:05,790 about it. And that's not the 9241 05:07:05,790 --> 05:07:07,481 last time. It's not the first 9242 05:07:07,481 --> 05:07:09,316 time but something definitely 9243 05:07:09,316 --> 05:07:09,783 got to be done with it because 9244 05:07:09,783 --> 05:07:10,418 is a nuisance to the 9245 05:07:10,418 --> 05:07:12,818 neighbors. There's on Atlantic 9246 05:07:13,654 --> 05:07:16,557 Boulevard. And hate speech and 9247 05:07:16,557 --> 05:07:17,157 all the beaches really. And 9248 05:07:17,157 --> 05:07:19,293 we're having a great special 9249 05:07:19,293 --> 05:07:22,893 meeting on that. The what is 9250 05:07:23,300 --> 05:07:24,310 it SEPTEMBER 22nd and that 9251 05:07:24,310 --> 05:07:27,310 that date that the composition 9252 05:07:27,935 --> 05:07:28,502 that. That's their got to have 9253 05:07:28,502 --> 05:07:32,102 some type of effect on the 9254 05:07:32,439 --> 05:07:33,640 water quality. 100%. And 9255 05:07:33,640 --> 05:07:34,208 addressing that as a city, 9256 05:07:34,208 --> 05:07:35,843 which amazing. I'm looking 9257 05:07:35,843 --> 05:07:37,843 forward to that. 9258 05:07:42,283 --> 05:07:42,817 >> Commissioner Haskell. Thank 9259 05:07:42,817 --> 05:07:45,817 MR. Maher. I mean, yeah, 9260 05:07:46,387 --> 05:07:46,954 that's 1, Leslie, I have a 9261 05:07:46,954 --> 05:07:49,954 couple questions for you on 9262 05:07:50,692 --> 05:07:52,527 the presentation. In the order 9263 05:07:52,527 --> 05:07:53,127 that you presented first was 9264 05:07:53,127 --> 05:07:56,127 were completed today. Can you 9265 05:07:57,699 --> 05:08:01,680 hear me? Yeah, yes, I can ok, 9266 05:08:01,680 --> 05:08:01,636 great task. 6 assist with 9267 05:08:01,636 --> 05:08:05,173 design of a new beach water 9268 05:08:05,173 --> 05:08:07,800 quality monitoring plans. It 9269 05:08:07,800 --> 05:08:08,243 mentions that epa grant 9270 05:08:08,243 --> 05:08:10,643 funding proposal was that 9271 05:08:11,713 --> 05:08:13,713 proposal actually funded. 9272 05:08:14,816 --> 05:08:16,585 >> It was not, which is why we 9273 05:08:16,585 --> 05:08:17,351 are looking at the revisions 9274 05:08:17,351 --> 05:08:19,555 to that proposal for 9275 05:08:19,555 --> 05:08:21,955 submission for the 2027 cycle. 9276 05:08:23,825 --> 05:08:26,261 We did it. We were in the 9277 05:08:26,261 --> 05:08:26,828 final group for that. So we're 9278 05:08:26,828 --> 05:08:29,828 very close. We just didn't 9279 05:08:31,467 --> 05:08:32,367 quite make the final cut. But 9280 05:08:32,367 --> 05:08:34,536 we did meet epa representative 9281 05:08:34,536 --> 05:08:36,671 who gave us some points to 9282 05:08:36,671 --> 05:08:39,710 improve the proposal. They 9283 05:08:39,574 --> 05:08:40,342 really liked the project to 9284 05:08:40,342 --> 05:08:42,611 just needed couple of tweaks 9285 05:08:42,611 --> 05:08:46,211 to the proposal for next year. 9286 05:08:46,715 --> 05:08:49,452 And so we we are very hopeful 9287 05:08:49,452 --> 05:08:50,686 that and that it would be 9288 05:08:50,686 --> 05:08:54,286 funded and the next cycle and 9289 05:08:55,958 --> 05:08:58,958 early 2027, ok? Thank you. The 9290 05:08:59,895 --> 05:09:00,430 that completed was beach water 9291 05:09:00,430 --> 05:09:02,131 quality monitoring plans 9292 05:09:02,131 --> 05:09:04,567 submitted to the city in 9293 05:09:04,567 --> 05:09:06,967 FEBRUARY 2026. Did that come 9294 05:09:08,971 --> 05:09:09,572 before the commission as a as 9295 05:09:09,572 --> 05:09:12,572 a just a informational piece. 9296 05:09:14,577 --> 05:09:15,177 I do remember seeing it. 9297 05:09:15,177 --> 05:09:16,379 >> I don't believe it did. It 9298 05:09:16,379 --> 05:09:18,810 was just admitted as the scope 9299 05:09:18,810 --> 05:09:21,681 of work for the epa proposal. 9300 05:09:22,719 --> 05:09:23,219 >> So was on staff level. Yes, 9301 05:09:23,219 --> 05:09:25,688 that was submitted as a 9302 05:09:25,688 --> 05:09:27,757 deliverable. We do have house 9303 05:09:27,757 --> 05:09:29,125 and utilize that as mentioned 9304 05:09:29,125 --> 05:09:29,725 for that for that, used in the 9305 05:09:29,725 --> 05:09:30,326 grant proposal, but we didn't 9306 05:09:30,326 --> 05:09:33,326 actually see what that beach 9307 05:09:34,697 --> 05:09:35,231 water quality plan. Yes, it's 9308 05:09:35,231 --> 05:09:35,831 it's it's at the level of 9309 05:09:35,831 --> 05:09:38,831 completion. So it's it's it's 9310 05:09:39,502 --> 05:09:40,360 ready. We'd like to see it. We 9311 05:09:40,360 --> 05:09:42,436 can provide the absolute. 9312 05:09:43,406 --> 05:09:44,775 Okay. Thank you very much. So 9313 05:09:44,775 --> 05:09:47,775 that was my questions about 9314 05:09:50,714 --> 05:09:52,714 task. 6 completed task. 0. 9315 05:09:55,152 --> 05:09:55,752 That was up. There was a 9316 05:09:55,752 --> 05:09:58,152 interruption in the sound 9317 05:09:58,355 --> 05:10:00,924 quality as you were speaking. 9318 05:10:00,924 --> 05:10:03,293 Did you say something about 9319 05:10:03,293 --> 05:10:05,693 grass like monitoring sampling 9320 05:10:09,332 --> 05:10:11,301 grass? Spikes. Egress. 9321 05:10:11,301 --> 05:10:12,502 >> No, maybe it was that I 9322 05:10:12,502 --> 05:10:13,103 sent grab samples, ok, could 9323 05:10:13,103 --> 05:10:15,706 you repeat that? Because that 9324 05:10:15,706 --> 05:10:16,940 was not clear. Could you 9325 05:10:16,940 --> 05:10:17,641 repeat that sentence of that 9326 05:10:17,641 --> 05:10:20,641 paragraph or that bullet point 9327 05:10:33,457 --> 05:10:36,457 about whatever the grab was? 9328 05:10:38,996 --> 05:10:42,499 >> So what I spoke on for that 9329 05:10:42,499 --> 05:10:43,340 task was that the alternative 9330 05:10:43,340 --> 05:10:45,340 monitoring scenarios were 9331 05:10:46,204 --> 05:10:46,937 submitted in MAY and included 9332 05:10:46,937 --> 05:10:49,937 pricing 2 for the city to 9333 05:10:51,375 --> 05:10:54,450 procure the equipment. And the 9334 05:10:54,450 --> 05:10:54,579 most cost-effective option was 9335 05:10:54,579 --> 05:10:55,880 chosen much us to perform 9336 05:10:55,880 --> 05:10:58,249 monthly grab samples at the 9337 05:10:58,249 --> 05:10:58,750 harbor as opposed to the 9338 05:10:58,750 --> 05:11:00,750 continuous monitoring, 9339 05:11:03,540 --> 05:11:03,788 deployed at the yellow man. 9340 05:11:03,788 --> 05:11:06,788 >> grab sample. That's like a 9341 05:11:06,892 --> 05:11:09,892 snapshot in time. It's one 9342 05:11:10,962 --> 05:11:11,529 place one man, it or extended 9343 05:11:11,529 --> 05:11:14,529 period of time or describe 9344 05:11:16,868 --> 05:11:19,304 what a grab sample. Collects. 9345 05:11:19,304 --> 05:11:22,304 >> Sure. So, yes, that's just 9346 05:11:23,740 --> 05:11:24,976 a a snapshot and timely. It's 9347 05:11:24,976 --> 05:11:25,577 kind of like the continuous 9348 05:11:25,577 --> 05:11:26,778 monitoring sensors that were 9349 05:11:26,778 --> 05:11:27,913 deployed on the yellow man. 9350 05:11:27,913 --> 05:11:30,313 But it's slightly smaller 9351 05:11:32,617 --> 05:11:35,254 suite of sensors. So it 9352 05:11:35,254 --> 05:11:35,921 temperature, conductivity and 9353 05:11:35,921 --> 05:11:38,321 salinity dissolved oxygen, ph 9354 05:11:40,459 --> 05:11:41,270 and 2. But e and so that would 9355 05:11:41,270 --> 05:11:44,627 be one time samples that we 9356 05:11:46,464 --> 05:11:47,332 put those. Sensors. And where 9357 05:11:47,332 --> 05:11:50,332 near the element in that 9358 05:11:51,336 --> 05:11:51,970 general vicinity. And we would 9359 05:11:51,970 --> 05:11:52,538 take readings from the surface 9360 05:11:52,538 --> 05:11:54,640 and near the bottom of the 9361 05:11:54,640 --> 05:11:56,709 water column and water column 9362 05:11:56,709 --> 05:11:59,709 at that location. What about 9363 05:12:01,470 --> 05:12:03,470 once a month? 9364 05:12:05,718 --> 05:12:06,752 >> So lets the validity of a 9365 05:12:06,752 --> 05:12:10,352 one time sample once a month 9366 05:12:10,689 --> 05:12:11,557 versus. Continual 24, 7 9367 05:12:11,557 --> 05:12:13,957 monitoring. What's the value 9368 05:12:16,962 --> 05:12:18,962 of the data? 9369 05:12:20,990 --> 05:12:21,200 >> It does allow you to still 9370 05:12:21,200 --> 05:12:21,801 evaluate changing conditions 9371 05:12:21,801 --> 05:12:25,401 over a long time period. You 9372 05:12:26,406 --> 05:12:28,700 just don't have that. That 9373 05:12:28,700 --> 05:12:31,700 fine temporal scale to really 9374 05:12:31,811 --> 05:12:32,978 get into daily fluctuations. 9375 05:12:32,978 --> 05:12:35,978 So, you monthly monitoring is 9376 05:12:36,983 --> 05:12:38,818 typically used by as part of 9377 05:12:38,818 --> 05:12:39,385 water, quality monitoring 9378 05:12:39,385 --> 05:12:39,953 programs on a bigger scale 9379 05:12:39,953 --> 05:12:41,554 because they're looking at 9380 05:12:41,554 --> 05:12:43,122 data over a long period of 9381 05:12:43,122 --> 05:12:46,159 time. And so if you collect 9382 05:12:46,159 --> 05:12:48,610 the data at the same time. Are 9383 05:12:48,610 --> 05:12:51,331 at the same place. Each time 9384 05:12:51,331 --> 05:12:51,932 you can look at any changes or 9385 05:12:51,932 --> 05:12:54,332 variability and water quality 9386 05:12:55,468 --> 05:12:56,360 at that location. It just 9387 05:12:56,360 --> 05:12:59,360 doesn't give you that finds 9388 05:13:00,474 --> 05:13:02,760 killed what's happening our to 9389 05:13:02,760 --> 05:13:02,676 and we you know, we do 9390 05:13:02,676 --> 05:13:03,277 recognize that this isn't as 9391 05:13:03,277 --> 05:13:05,677 comprehensive as it continues 9392 05:13:06,680 --> 05:13:09,216 monitoring would be. We are 9393 05:13:09,216 --> 05:13:10,217 just going off of the city's 9394 05:13:10,217 --> 05:13:12,519 decision to implement this 9395 05:13:12,519 --> 05:13:14,488 type of sampling because it 9396 05:13:14,488 --> 05:13:16,290 was a more cost-effective 9397 05:13:16,290 --> 05:13:18,425 option to bridge that gap 9398 05:13:18,425 --> 05:13:20,494 between what happened before 9399 05:13:20,494 --> 05:13:22,163 and thank you. While we work 9400 05:13:22,163 --> 05:13:23,130 to get the continuous 9401 05:13:23,130 --> 05:13:25,130 monitoring implemented. So 9402 05:13:25,999 --> 05:13:26,566 we're still we still have data 9403 05:13:26,566 --> 05:13:30,166 that can be used again over 9404 05:13:30,938 --> 05:13:31,939 the long term scale in the 9405 05:13:31,939 --> 05:13:32,573 meantime. So it's still better 9406 05:13:32,573 --> 05:13:35,573 than not having any monitoring 9407 05:13:36,177 --> 05:13:38,177 it. All. 9408 05:13:39,246 --> 05:13:39,580 >> And I think my last 9409 05:13:39,580 --> 05:13:41,580 question is, 9410 05:13:41,582 --> 05:13:44,582 >> if the monitoring of the 9411 05:13:46,200 --> 05:13:47,855 harbor began in MARCH and its 9412 05:13:47,855 --> 05:13:48,423 monthly. It would seem like 9413 05:13:48,423 --> 05:13:51,423 you have 6 months worth of 9414 05:13:52,293 --> 05:13:53,360 data collected. 9415 05:13:53,360 --> 05:13:54,262 >> Now it to sampling itself 9416 05:13:54,262 --> 05:13:57,862 did not begin in MARCH. MARCH 9417 05:13:59,634 --> 05:14:01,836 is when we submitted the plan 9418 05:14:01,836 --> 05:14:02,637 to reinstate the monitoring. 9419 05:14:02,637 --> 05:14:05,173 So monitoring is still waiting 9420 05:14:05,173 --> 05:14:05,773 to begin until the equipment. 9421 05:14:05,773 --> 05:14:08,173 This procurement, as Patrick 9422 05:14:09,210 --> 05:14:11,210 just spoke 9423 05:14:13,448 --> 05:14:14,490 >> So even though Rizzo Qs 9424 05:14:14,490 --> 05:14:17,490 have are monitoring is under, 9425 05:14:17,151 --> 05:14:17,686 were completed to date. The 9426 05:14:17,686 --> 05:14:20,860 monitoring of the harbor 9427 05:14:22,900 --> 05:14:23,258 really hasn't resumed yet. 9428 05:14:23,258 --> 05:14:25,160 >> Right, right. So that whole 9429 05:14:25,160 --> 05:14:25,761 it's not that that whole task 9430 05:14:25,761 --> 05:14:27,229 is completed. It's just that 9431 05:14:27,229 --> 05:14:27,763 we have completed some work on 9432 05:14:27,763 --> 05:14:31,363 that task, which is why I 9433 05:14:31,766 --> 05:14:32,934 included it on that thing. 9434 05:14:32,934 --> 05:14:33,969 >> Okay. Went you're waiting 9435 05:14:33,969 --> 05:14:34,736 on the city to buy the 9436 05:14:34,736 --> 05:14:35,304 equipment and then you'll 9437 05:14:35,304 --> 05:14:35,804 start during the monitoring 9438 05:14:35,804 --> 05:14:38,804 and then you'll give us 9439 05:14:40,475 --> 05:14:42,475 monthly reports. I'm 9440 05:14:43,879 --> 05:14:45,879 impatient. I 9441 05:14:47,850 --> 05:14:48,917 >> I one say it is too, if I 9442 05:14:48,917 --> 05:14:50,653 clarify that continued 9443 05:14:50,653 --> 05:14:52,653 continuous monitoring 9444 05:14:53,722 --> 05:14:55,257 equipment. I believe the 9445 05:14:55,257 --> 05:14:57,657 college had the ability 2 9446 05:14:57,760 --> 05:14:59,561 place it on a dashboard with 9447 05:14:59,561 --> 05:15:01,464 the public in real time could 9448 05:15:01,464 --> 05:15:02,631 see the results. Is that what 9449 05:15:02,631 --> 05:15:06,231 we're going to include as well 9450 05:15:06,535 --> 05:15:07,103 in the equipment? Think that 9451 05:15:07,103 --> 05:15:10,103 would be a really wonderful 9452 05:15:10,306 --> 05:15:13,306 thing. If the public could 9453 05:15:14,760 --> 05:15:14,676 see, you know what? What the 9454 05:15:14,676 --> 05:15:18,876 data is as well as you know, 9455 05:15:21,850 --> 05:15:22,485 the scientists. 9456 05:15:22,485 --> 05:15:23,819 >> Ashley clarifies the grab. 9457 05:15:23,819 --> 05:15:24,620 Sampling would be able to 9458 05:15:24,620 --> 05:15:25,154 provide that sort of gators or 9459 05:15:25,154 --> 05:15:27,554 something or to continue 9460 05:15:28,357 --> 05:15:28,924 monitor and can do. 9461 05:15:28,924 --> 05:15:32,524 >> Oh, I see, ok? So, yeah. 9462 05:15:34,597 --> 05:15:35,165 That was. That dashboard. A 9463 05:15:35,165 --> 05:15:37,565 specific to the continuous 9464 05:15:38,301 --> 05:15:40,103 monitoring equipment to look 9465 05:15:40,103 --> 05:15:40,736 includes a telemetry system 9466 05:15:40,736 --> 05:15:43,739 that uploads data real time to 9467 05:15:43,739 --> 05:15:46,910 the dashboard. If and we do 9468 05:15:46,910 --> 05:15:49,910 get that. The equipment to 9469 05:15:50,180 --> 05:15:50,747 deploy on a man. It will 9470 05:15:50,747 --> 05:15:51,347 include that dashboard and 9471 05:15:51,347 --> 05:15:54,347 will be available for public 9472 05:15:55,819 --> 05:15:57,821 data. Viewing the grab 9473 05:15:57,821 --> 05:15:59,890 sampling that we're doing 9474 05:15:59,890 --> 05:16:00,957 currently wouldn't have that 9475 05:16:00,957 --> 05:16:03,957 dashboard, but we could work 9476 05:16:04,461 --> 05:16:04,995 on developing a product to at 9477 05:16:04,995 --> 05:16:07,395 least have those results 9478 05:16:11,102 --> 05:16:11,735 available easily. Perhaps on 9479 05:16:11,735 --> 05:16:13,203 your website that people could 9480 05:16:13,203 --> 05:16:16,273 go and view the data. Great. 9481 05:16:16,273 --> 05:16:16,507 Thank you, commissioner 9482 05:16:16,507 --> 05:16:18,507 mascot. 9483 05:16:19,110 --> 05:16:20,444 >> Thank you, MR. Yes, I I 9484 05:16:20,444 --> 05:16:20,844 asked the same question, the 9485 05:16:20,844 --> 05:16:20,956 vice mayor and a# 9486 05:16:20,956 --> 05:16:21,145 # 9487 05:16:21,145 --> 05:16:21,712 . And I was 9488 05:16:21,712 --> 05:16:24,712 told that equipment had not 9489 05:16:27,884 --> 05:16:28,319 been purchase. So but I. More 9490 05:16:28,319 --> 05:16:30,319 impatient. The new 9491 05:16:30,488 --> 05:16:31,880 commissioner. That's just I 9492 05:16:31,880 --> 05:16:33,657 don't even know what question 9493 05:16:33,657 --> 05:16:35,657 to ask. Accept. 9494 05:16:37,295 --> 05:16:39,497 >> What would it take? 9495 05:16:39,497 --> 05:16:40,598 >> To go back to continuous 9496 05:16:40,598 --> 05:16:43,598 monitoring at the yellow man 9497 05:16:44,369 --> 05:16:44,969 like the college was doing. We 9498 05:16:44,969 --> 05:16:45,836 got and I was at that meeting 9499 05:16:45,836 --> 05:16:48,836 where Dr Rice was presenting 9500 05:16:49,540 --> 05:16:50,141 some of those findings. And 9501 05:16:50,141 --> 05:16:51,875 that was, you know, it really 9502 05:16:51,875 --> 05:16:54,845 felt like we were fulfilling 9503 05:16:54,845 --> 05:16:55,746 our obligations under Chapter 9504 05:16:55,746 --> 05:16:56,347 80 and fulfilling our 9505 05:16:56,347 --> 05:16:57,848 obligations to our residents 9506 05:16:57,848 --> 05:17:00,848 and our visitors, frankly, you 9507 05:17:02,653 --> 05:17:03,254 know, I I think that there's 9508 05:17:03,254 --> 05:17:04,289 more of an appetite for more 9509 05:17:04,289 --> 05:17:06,357 testing in the harbor. I think 9510 05:17:06,357 --> 05:17:07,525 there's an appetite now for 9511 05:17:07,525 --> 05:17:10,525 more knowledge of what's going 9512 05:17:13,198 --> 05:17:15,199 on and we are I would say that 9513 05:17:15,199 --> 05:17:17,969 this commission is that as it 9514 05:17:17,969 --> 05:17:18,169 is is comprised is is, you 9515 05:17:18,169 --> 05:17:20,169 know, 9516 05:17:20,738 --> 05:17:20,972 >> more eager to get things 9517 05:17:20,972 --> 05:17:21,773 moving. 9518 05:17:21,773 --> 05:17:24,643 >> Along and I was hoping to 9519 05:17:24,643 --> 05:17:26,643 have something. 9520 05:17:28,847 --> 05:17:30,748 >> More than just pa data that 9521 05:17:30,748 --> 05:17:31,817 we would have something in the 9522 05:17:31,817 --> 05:17:32,784 water because we have started 9523 05:17:32,784 --> 05:17:33,418 in MARCH with with stantec and 9524 05:17:33,418 --> 05:17:37,322 this is and I don't think it's 9525 05:17:37,322 --> 05:17:39,324 a stantec small. I think it's 9526 05:17:39,324 --> 05:17:39,925 just the slow-moving of how 9527 05:17:39,925 --> 05:17:41,826 government works in the city 9528 05:17:41,826 --> 05:17:44,797 and we had things going so I'd 9529 05:17:44,797 --> 05:17:45,964 like to know maybe for next 9530 05:17:45,964 --> 05:17:47,266 commission meeting what it 9531 05:17:47,266 --> 05:17:49,100 would take for us to get back 9532 05:17:49,100 --> 05:17:51,470 to the level of testing that 9533 05:17:51,470 --> 05:17:52,370 the college was doing 9534 05:17:52,370 --> 05:17:52,971 regardless of thinks of who 9535 05:17:52,971 --> 05:17:54,971 canceled Walker, whatever 9536 05:17:55,400 --> 05:17:56,976 letter I want to get back to 9537 05:17:56,976 --> 05:17:58,811 that. I want to know what that 9538 05:17:58,811 --> 05:18:00,312 would cost. And if that is 9539 05:18:00,312 --> 05:18:03,312 within you know, the budget 9540 05:18:04,616 --> 05:18:07,616 for 2027. Agreed that I can 9541 05:18:08,821 --> 05:18:10,821 add to that. 9542 05:18:10,989 --> 05:18:13,989 >> His staff working with our 9543 05:18:13,992 --> 05:18:15,394 lobbyists to identify funding. 9544 05:18:15,394 --> 05:18:16,528 For such continuous 9545 05:18:16,528 --> 05:18:19,528 monitoring, not just in the 9546 05:18:19,665 --> 05:18:21,633 harbor, but at the beaches. So 9547 05:18:21,633 --> 05:18:22,401 in other words, how do we 9548 05:18:22,401 --> 05:18:26,100 know? You know what the source 9549 05:18:26,272 --> 05:18:29,750 of the e-coli us? You have to 9550 05:18:29,750 --> 05:18:31,311 have continuous monitoring his 9551 05:18:31,311 --> 05:18:32,979 dog. Is it a on? A is a 9552 05:18:32,979 --> 05:18:34,814 chicken? Is it the shallow 9553 05:18:34,814 --> 05:18:35,915 injection wells? How do we 9554 05:18:35,915 --> 05:18:39,515 know was in our storm water 9555 05:18:39,619 --> 05:18:40,119 system? We will only know if 9556 05:18:40,119 --> 05:18:40,987 we have the continuous 9557 05:18:40,987 --> 05:18:42,989 monitoring system. That's the 9558 05:18:42,989 --> 05:18:46,326 only way I think they have the 9559 05:18:46,326 --> 05:18:49,329 data. So the question is. Do 9560 05:18:49,329 --> 05:18:52,329 we are we connecting staff 9561 05:18:54,534 --> 05:18:55,569 with our legislative agenda 9562 05:18:55,569 --> 05:18:56,103 for for this purpose. Is that 9563 05:18:56,103 --> 05:18:56,637 on going? Because I think 9564 05:18:56,637 --> 05:18:57,236 we're going to need more 9565 05:18:57,236 --> 05:19:00,836 money. So that sounds like to 9566 05:19:03,776 --> 05:19:05,776 me. 9567 05:19:07,800 --> 05:19:07,681 >> What we can do is obviously 9568 05:19:07,681 --> 05:19:09,750 Todd is the spearhead of our 9569 05:19:09,750 --> 05:19:11,151 legislative. I believe he's 9570 05:19:11,151 --> 05:19:11,618 either met with each one of 9571 05:19:11,618 --> 05:19:13,253 you are provided our 9572 05:19:13,253 --> 05:19:16,253 strategies going up into the 9573 05:19:17,900 --> 05:19:17,691 new year. So we will make sure 9574 05:19:17,691 --> 05:19:19,393 that we incorporate that into 9575 05:19:19,393 --> 05:19:20,270 strategies. Excellent. Okay, 9576 05:19:20,270 --> 05:19:21,428 sir. Bringing bringing it back 9577 05:19:21,428 --> 05:19:23,428 to the commission. 9578 05:19:25,499 --> 05:19:26,670 Commissioner Yeah. Well. 9579 05:19:26,670 --> 05:19:26,666 >> You know, it sounds like 9580 05:19:26,666 --> 05:19:28,869 you look bunch of malarkey to 9581 05:19:28,869 --> 05:19:29,837 me. All this. You know, let's 9582 05:19:29,837 --> 05:19:33,574 get off the pot and get going 9583 05:19:33,574 --> 05:19:34,508 here. You get done. The second 9584 05:19:34,508 --> 05:19:35,576 thing I want to ask is where 9585 05:19:35,576 --> 05:19:38,576 is the equipment that was 9586 05:19:38,646 --> 05:19:40,547 purchased by the city Key 9587 05:19:40,547 --> 05:19:42,490 West? How much is What did it 9588 05:19:42,490 --> 05:19:42,516 cost? And where is the 9589 05:19:42,516 --> 05:19:44,516 physical location of 9590 05:19:45,386 --> 05:19:45,953 equipment? That's the first 9591 05:19:45,953 --> 05:19:48,789 question we need to answer 9592 05:19:48,789 --> 05:19:50,358 here. Then the second question 9593 05:19:50,358 --> 05:19:53,761 is this thing has been batted 9594 05:19:53,761 --> 05:19:54,662 around and batted around. I 9595 05:19:54,662 --> 05:19:56,130 got hit on it on all the 9596 05:19:56,130 --> 05:19:57,898 things that elections, things. 9597 05:19:57,898 --> 05:20:00,298 And telling you, there's 9598 05:20:01,469 --> 05:20:02,360 nothing to hide. There's 9599 05:20:02,360 --> 05:20:03,471 nothing to hide. Let's find 9600 05:20:03,471 --> 05:20:05,172 out what is going on with the 9601 05:20:05,172 --> 05:20:08,342 water and the city. Key West. 9602 05:20:08,342 --> 05:20:08,976 No, you're near shore. Waters, 9603 05:20:08,976 --> 05:20:11,976 ok, pat, worse, the equipment. 9604 05:20:16,250 --> 05:20:16,818 Do you know? 9605 05:20:16,818 --> 05:20:18,530 >> a return to the college 9606 05:20:18,530 --> 05:20:18,687 equipped to test the testing 9607 05:20:18,687 --> 05:20:21,560 equipment. This equipment that 9608 05:20:21,560 --> 05:20:22,790 I hear that was taken out and 9609 05:20:22,790 --> 05:20:24,259 the city's property. Where is 9610 05:20:24,259 --> 05:20:27,859 that? Houses can speak to that 9611 05:20:28,330 --> 05:20:31,400 was not here for So this was 9612 05:20:31,400 --> 05:20:31,866 sorry. Hello, Allison against 9613 05:20:31,866 --> 05:20:32,500 Atlanta. Motor. 9614 05:20:32,500 --> 05:20:36,100 >> That was back when we had 9615 05:20:37,572 --> 05:20:38,540 to manage or a medical often. 9616 05:20:38,540 --> 05:20:41,242 >> of the equipment and it is 9617 05:20:41,242 --> 05:20:42,177 still in use under the second 9618 05:20:42,177 --> 05:20:44,279 epa grant. That's uk is still 9619 05:20:44,279 --> 05:20:47,279 running the areas that we 9620 05:20:47,349 --> 05:20:47,916 asked for, which was out of 9621 05:20:47,916 --> 05:20:49,918 Mount Rushmore looking for 9622 05:20:49,918 --> 05:20:52,388 oxybenzone off the beaches and 9623 05:20:52,388 --> 05:20:54,289 looking at sucralose off of 9624 05:20:54,289 --> 05:20:56,424 the boat areas. It is in use. 9625 05:20:56,424 --> 05:20:58,794 It was not was at the yellow 9626 05:20:58,794 --> 05:20:59,862 man member who was still here 9627 05:20:59,862 --> 05:21:01,396 then. But they brought that 9628 05:21:01,396 --> 05:21:03,465 big long tube, of art was 9629 05:21:03,465 --> 05:21:05,701 talking about. We bought half 9630 05:21:05,701 --> 05:21:06,903 of it. It isn't used as part 9631 05:21:06,903 --> 05:21:09,338 of the second epa grant. They 9632 05:21:09,338 --> 05:21:09,938 are still collecting data on 9633 05:21:09,938 --> 05:21:12,641 that. Parts that were at the 9634 05:21:12,641 --> 05:21:13,843 Elm and where but through 9635 05:21:13,843 --> 05:21:16,843 their grant, Stu still have 9636 05:21:17,647 --> 05:21:19,682 it. We asked if we purchase it 9637 05:21:19,682 --> 05:21:21,684 back from them. But the price 9638 05:21:21,684 --> 05:21:24,553 that between them was about 9639 05:21:24,553 --> 05:21:25,540 $2000 and it was 2 year old 9640 05:21:25,540 --> 05:21:25,621 equipment. So as better 9641 05:21:25,621 --> 05:21:28,210 despite even having morning 9642 05:21:30,250 --> 05:21:30,726 tea. And that's the press that 9643 05:21:30,726 --> 05:21:31,661 we brought brought back in 9644 05:21:31,661 --> 05:21:34,230 MARCH. Well, what's the total 9645 05:21:34,230 --> 05:21:35,397 cost of this equipment to have 9646 05:21:35,397 --> 05:21:37,300 it? 9647 05:21:37,300 --> 05:21:37,967 >> We have a cost factor here. 9648 05:21:37,967 --> 05:21:38,501 What is the The cost was what 9649 05:21:38,501 --> 05:21:41,304 we brought back in MARCH, 9650 05:21:41,304 --> 05:21:41,905 which was 46,000. The 9651 05:21:41,905 --> 05:21:44,305 equipment. 46, dozens who are 9652 05:21:44,874 --> 05:21:47,874 setting up here, but doing 9653 05:21:47,877 --> 05:21:48,712 this. And it's only $46,000 to 9654 05:21:48,712 --> 05:21:51,712 all right. We've got more 9655 05:21:52,490 --> 05:21:54,684 enough to pay for it. Second 9656 05:21:54,684 --> 05:21:55,285 thing is thank you very much. 9657 05:21:55,285 --> 05:21:58,885 Second thing is I think the 9658 05:21:59,550 --> 05:21:59,589 residents of this community. 9659 05:21:59,589 --> 05:22:00,157 >> Her second target run 9660 05:22:00,157 --> 05:22:03,157 around on this whole issue 9661 05:22:03,160 --> 05:22:05,595 house and I love you. Respect 9662 05:22:05,595 --> 05:22:06,530 to it's time dies, gets 9663 05:22:06,530 --> 05:22:09,333 together here. And let's get 9664 05:22:09,333 --> 05:22:11,334 this answered. I know that 9665 05:22:11,334 --> 05:22:12,936 when I said on previous 9666 05:22:12,936 --> 05:22:15,705 commissions, we found out that 9667 05:22:15,705 --> 05:22:16,573 a lot over there by White 9668 05:22:16,573 --> 05:22:19,376 Street pier. It was a lot 9669 05:22:19,376 --> 05:22:20,243 water runoff from the bird 9670 05:22:20,243 --> 05:22:20,844 sanctuary. Okay. So there's a 9671 05:22:20,844 --> 05:22:23,413 lot of things that are going 9672 05:22:23,413 --> 05:22:27,151 on here and play at our low 9673 05:22:27,151 --> 05:22:28,118 said about ballast tank, 9674 05:22:28,118 --> 05:22:31,550 things in scrubbers. And I 9675 05:22:31,550 --> 05:22:31,689 know that all those things. 9676 05:22:31,689 --> 05:22:35,193 I'd really like to know what's 9677 05:22:35,193 --> 05:22:37,962 there. Ok? And we need to get 9678 05:22:37,962 --> 05:22:38,595 this are make a motion that 9679 05:22:38,595 --> 05:22:41,398 this should be done as soon as 9680 05:22:41,398 --> 05:22:43,167 possible. And I'd like to have 9681 05:22:43,167 --> 05:22:45,567 a second. That's amazing. 9682 05:22:47,739 --> 05:22:48,138 Thank you, Commissioner Rossi. 9683 05:22:48,138 --> 05:22:49,941 >> yet have a new 9684 05:22:49,941 --> 05:22:52,341 commissioner. That's for sure. 9685 05:22:53,278 --> 05:22:53,845 Okay. But what we were told by 9686 05:22:53,845 --> 05:22:57,445 the manager is that it's in 9687 05:22:57,615 --> 05:22:59,350 process. So I don't know that 9688 05:22:59,350 --> 05:23:00,551 we need a motion, but I so it 9689 05:23:00,551 --> 05:23:01,119 is the date that the process, 9690 05:23:01,119 --> 05:23:04,880 when is it going to come to 9691 05:23:04,880 --> 05:23:04,655 fruition? This is what 9692 05:23:04,655 --> 05:23:06,290 >> customers in our voters 9693 05:23:06,290 --> 05:23:09,326 want to know, ok? So I have a 9694 05:23:09,326 --> 05:23:11,129 I have a motion purchase the 9695 05:23:11,129 --> 05:23:11,630 equipment I don't know. Can 9696 05:23:11,630 --> 05:23:14,650 can staff give us some 9697 05:23:14,650 --> 05:23:17,100 guidance and what what the 9698 05:23:17,100 --> 05:23:17,869 motion should say, MR. Mayor 9699 05:23:17,869 --> 05:23:18,737 action item. 9700 05:23:18,737 --> 05:23:19,370 >> It's not actually you're 9701 05:23:19,370 --> 05:23:20,204 right. So we can't do that. We 9702 05:23:20,204 --> 05:23:22,174 can up Commissioner Aussie up. 9703 05:23:22,174 --> 05:23:24,574 We're getting ahead of 9704 05:23:24,709 --> 05:23:26,678 ourselves. I love you. I love 9705 05:23:26,678 --> 05:23:28,913 the enthusiasm. With you 100% 9706 05:23:28,913 --> 05:23:31,616 what I think we have to do is 9707 05:23:31,616 --> 05:23:32,217 put this on the agenda OCTOBER 9708 05:23:32,217 --> 05:23:35,187 as this is set for discussion 9709 05:23:35,187 --> 05:23:37,289 item, then it's another 15, 30 9710 05:23:37,289 --> 05:23:38,723 days yet time certain let's 9711 05:23:38,723 --> 05:23:39,324 get it on U.S. Figure out 9712 05:23:39,324 --> 05:23:42,324 where we're going here. What 9713 05:23:44,763 --> 05:23:45,964 we're doing that right? Team? 9714 05:23:45,964 --> 05:23:46,365 >> Everybody that. It's a 9715 05:23:46,365 --> 05:23:47,198 We're seeing some 9716 05:23:47,198 --> 05:23:48,266 disagreement. I think among 9717 05:23:48,266 --> 05:23:50,666 staff. Let's hear from 9718 05:23:52,971 --> 05:23:53,973 >> MR. Maher and Commission, 9719 05:23:53,973 --> 05:23:55,730 thank you. 9720 05:23:55,730 --> 05:23:58,730 >> What I would encourage in 9721 05:23:58,710 --> 05:23:59,311 if you allow an opportunity 9722 05:23:59,311 --> 05:24:00,145 for our team, I believe that 9723 05:24:00,145 --> 05:24:02,545 we have the necessary 9724 05:24:05,150 --> 05:24:07,860 leadership tonight to bring an 9725 05:24:07,860 --> 05:24:07,919 item to the SEPTEMBER 10th 9726 05:24:07,919 --> 05:24:09,288 meeting. So it would not 9727 05:24:09,288 --> 05:24:10,256 necessarily require us waiting 9728 05:24:10,256 --> 05:24:10,789 to another commission meeting. 9729 05:24:10,789 --> 05:24:13,590 I think it would be more 9730 05:24:13,590 --> 05:24:14,193 appropriate on the 10th 9731 05:24:14,193 --> 05:24:16,280 because this is now a budget 9732 05:24:16,280 --> 05:24:17,263 adjustment. Gives us an 9733 05:24:17,263 --> 05:24:18,697 opportunity to understand 9734 05:24:18,697 --> 05:24:19,231 where to take this additional 9735 05:24:19,231 --> 05:24:22,231 funds from a real talent. 9736 05:24:22,635 --> 05:24:24,236 Kate, if this is a direction, 9737 05:24:24,236 --> 05:24:25,171 so if you give us that 9738 05:24:25,171 --> 05:24:25,772 opportunity, our planner, our 9739 05:24:25,772 --> 05:24:28,772 team's plan and I'm speaking 9740 05:24:28,908 --> 05:24:31,100 for our team that we will 9741 05:24:31,100 --> 05:24:33,913 bring a recommendation to be 9742 05:24:33,913 --> 05:24:34,913 viewed by this commission for 9743 05:24:34,913 --> 05:24:36,315 inaction decision. I just want 9744 05:24:36,315 --> 05:24:36,849 the think, yes, that's 9745 05:24:36,849 --> 05:24:37,350 perfect. And I'll get to 9746 05:24:37,350 --> 05:24:37,917 commissioner has going 9747 05:24:37,917 --> 05:24:39,518 Commissioner Carey. But but 9748 05:24:39,518 --> 05:24:41,421 could that also? 9749 05:24:41,421 --> 05:24:43,821 >> Include what I understood. 9750 05:24:44,991 --> 05:24:45,625 We don't have the money, but 9751 05:24:45,625 --> 05:24:46,225 what it would cost for 9752 05:24:46,225 --> 05:24:48,625 continuous monitoring at the 9753 05:24:49,562 --> 05:24:52,331 beaches. Just to know what the 9754 05:24:52,331 --> 05:24:53,166 costs would be. And I 9755 05:24:53,166 --> 05:24:54,000 understand that we do because 9756 05:24:54,000 --> 05:24:55,468 what Commissioner Ross, he was 9757 05:24:55,468 --> 05:24:58,468 saying about why Streep here, 9758 05:24:59,172 --> 05:24:59,739 we would need to know how 9759 05:24:59,739 --> 05:25:02,708 protect our waters on that 9760 05:25:02,708 --> 05:25:06,908 side of the island as well. So 9761 05:25:07,113 --> 05:25:08,682 let me say one other thing. 9762 05:25:08,682 --> 05:25:11,517 The testing is this testing 9763 05:25:11,517 --> 05:25:12,552 done after race or before a 9764 05:25:12,552 --> 05:25:14,888 storm? Because all know that 9765 05:25:14,888 --> 05:25:16,888 the storm sores. 9766 05:25:17,924 --> 05:25:18,525 >> Our storm water goes into 9767 05:25:18,525 --> 05:25:22,125 the water. So that's a whole 9768 05:25:22,796 --> 05:25:23,864 nother issue in itself, too. 9769 05:25:23,864 --> 05:25:27,330 You know, I want to make 9770 05:25:27,330 --> 05:25:27,968 things clear and concise. You 9771 05:25:27,968 --> 05:25:30,804 know, if we have apples, we 9772 05:25:30,804 --> 05:25:31,380 got apples and guards who 9773 05:25:31,380 --> 05:25:32,206 guards. 9774 05:25:32,206 --> 05:25:35,543 >> It has to you know, is it 9775 05:25:35,543 --> 05:25:38,543 before storm after storm? You 9776 05:25:38,579 --> 05:25:40,800 know what you're suggesting 9777 05:25:40,800 --> 05:25:40,547 there, ice, MR. MISTER I love 9778 05:25:40,547 --> 05:25:42,283 the Commissioner, Rob 9779 05:25:42,283 --> 05:25:42,850 Missouri. See, this is great. 9780 05:25:42,850 --> 05:25:46,450 >> Pat, I think we got it. 9781 05:25:47,688 --> 05:25:50,758 Brother. So a few things. Some 9782 05:25:50,758 --> 05:25:51,359 of what we just providing 9783 05:25:51,359 --> 05:25:54,620 context, ok, cause some of us 9784 05:25:54,620 --> 05:25:55,863 are playing catch-up, 9785 05:25:55,863 --> 05:25:57,298 including myself. My 9786 05:25:57,298 --> 05:25:58,332 understanding was there was a 9787 05:25:58,332 --> 05:26:00,000 scope of work during an rfp 9788 05:26:00,000 --> 05:26:00,902 process that was awarded to 9789 05:26:00,902 --> 05:26:03,902 Stan Tech. Some of the 9790 05:26:04,339 --> 05:26:06,739 conversation was that. That 9791 05:26:07,375 --> 05:26:09,377 manifested into a larger 9792 05:26:09,377 --> 05:26:10,110 dollar amount. So I want to be 9793 05:26:10,110 --> 05:26:11,946 very clear that I really I'm 9794 05:26:11,946 --> 05:26:13,981 leaning towards our legal 9795 05:26:13,981 --> 05:26:16,251 department. What you're asking 9796 05:26:16,251 --> 05:26:19,220 us to bring forward require 9797 05:26:19,220 --> 05:26:20,988 anything other than tonight's 9798 05:26:20,988 --> 05:26:21,890 leadership in your mind does 9799 05:26:21,890 --> 05:26:24,890 require because of the dollar 9800 05:26:25,861 --> 05:26:27,996 amount that you are at. I'm 9801 05:26:27,996 --> 05:26:29,497 sorry, should I So I just know 9802 05:26:29,497 --> 05:26:31,433 that there was there was a 9803 05:26:31,433 --> 05:26:32,467 pause in the moment at that 9804 05:26:32,467 --> 05:26:34,867 particular meeting as it 9805 05:26:35,603 --> 05:26:36,137 pertains to what was rfp 9806 05:26:36,137 --> 05:26:39,107 process and then what was 9807 05:26:39,107 --> 05:26:39,641 brain brought forward for 0 in 9808 05:26:39,641 --> 05:26:42,641 Dallas. And am I missing 9809 05:26:43,211 --> 05:26:43,779 anything with that? So just 9810 05:26:43,779 --> 05:26:45,847 know that some of the pause 9811 05:26:45,847 --> 05:26:47,849 was that was that it was in 9812 05:26:47,849 --> 05:26:50,653 relation to the integrity of 9813 05:26:50,653 --> 05:26:51,253 the rfp process and then how 9814 05:26:51,253 --> 05:26:53,255 that would be viewed it. Now 9815 05:26:53,255 --> 05:26:53,756 we are now adding additional 9816 05:26:53,756 --> 05:26:56,156 funding outside of That 9817 05:26:56,559 --> 05:26:58,559 initial scope. 9818 05:26:58,560 --> 05:27:00,595 >> And if I can add to that 9819 05:27:00,595 --> 05:27:01,630 end, Mayor cough, and I think 9820 05:27:01,630 --> 05:27:04,199 you remember you and I have a 9821 05:27:04,199 --> 05:27:05,367 little dialogue about this. I 9822 05:27:05,367 --> 05:27:08,367 was not around when this 9823 05:27:08,437 --> 05:27:09,304 original rfp was put together, 9824 05:27:09,304 --> 05:27:12,841 but it was a series of 9825 05:27:12,841 --> 05:27:14,777 individual eyes tasks so many 9826 05:27:14,777 --> 05:27:15,477 modifications were made by the 9827 05:27:15,477 --> 05:27:17,877 commission that there is 9828 05:27:19,348 --> 05:27:19,915 really no longer contract. So 9829 05:27:19,915 --> 05:27:20,950 you had stand tech in good 9830 05:27:20,950 --> 05:27:24,554 faith said, Do you want us to 9831 05:27:24,554 --> 05:27:25,654 do abc, d e? 9832 05:27:25,654 --> 05:27:26,823 >> Okay. Here's what I will 9833 05:27:26,823 --> 05:27:28,657 be. Hers will be. We'll But 9834 05:27:28,657 --> 05:27:29,292 then the commission kept 9835 05:27:29,292 --> 05:27:32,292 modifying each and every one 9836 05:27:33,896 --> 05:27:38,534 of abc d e and so finally we 9837 05:27:38,534 --> 05:27:40,569 gave the guidance to the 9838 05:27:40,569 --> 05:27:42,539 manager's office that it was 9839 05:27:42,539 --> 05:27:45,408 with his signing authority to 9840 05:27:45,408 --> 05:27:47,377 purchase the equipment. So 9841 05:27:47,377 --> 05:27:50,113 that stand tech could do the 9842 05:27:50,113 --> 05:27:50,680 testing. Other words, you were 9843 05:27:50,680 --> 05:27:53,800 called there was resolution 9844 05:27:53,116 --> 05:27:55,786 that did not pass on trying to 9845 05:27:55,786 --> 05:27:58,786 get a pricing for the 9846 05:27:59,722 --> 05:28:00,723 equipment. And so that's why 9847 05:28:00,723 --> 05:28:03,723 your where you are management 9848 05:28:04,728 --> 05:28:07,297 was trying to go ahead and get 9849 05:28:07,297 --> 05:28:07,898 the equipment in hand. So that 9850 05:28:07,898 --> 05:28:10,333 stand tech could perform the 9851 05:28:10,333 --> 05:28:11,168 rest of the tasks that just 9852 05:28:11,168 --> 05:28:14,168 got, you know, the commission 9853 05:28:14,305 --> 05:28:16,206 wanted to give advice and 9854 05:28:16,206 --> 05:28:17,207 guidance. But when you do 9855 05:28:17,207 --> 05:28:19,209 that, operationally, you know, 9856 05:28:19,209 --> 05:28:22,212 it can it can create delays. 9857 05:28:22,212 --> 05:28:23,414 That's number one. Number 2, I 9858 05:28:23,414 --> 05:28:24,150 would just request that you 9859 05:28:24,150 --> 05:28:27,517 ask your staff to do the best 9860 05:28:27,517 --> 05:28:28,352 it can to get and idea of 9861 05:28:28,352 --> 05:28:30,200 costs. Obviously, if you're 9862 05:28:30,200 --> 05:28:32,923 going to have a provider, 9863 05:28:32,923 --> 05:28:33,490 provide continuous monitoring, 9864 05:28:33,490 --> 05:28:33,990 you're going to have to go 9865 05:28:33,990 --> 05:28:35,990 through the procurement 9866 05:28:37,761 --> 05:28:40,163 process to do that. So just a 9867 05:28:40,163 --> 05:28:40,998 small modification to the way 9868 05:28:40,998 --> 05:28:44,680 you said the and that's really 9869 05:28:44,680 --> 05:28:45,136 intended for legislative 9870 05:28:45,136 --> 05:28:47,872 agenda. We need to know what, 9871 05:28:47,872 --> 05:28:48,839 what is that? To do a really 9872 05:28:48,839 --> 05:28:49,840 comprehensive water quality 9873 05:28:49,840 --> 05:28:51,476 program. What what is the real 9874 05:28:51,476 --> 05:28:52,543 cost? I think that's what 9875 05:28:52,543 --> 05:28:53,611 ceasing. 9876 05:28:53,611 --> 05:28:56,147 >> how do we get this? How do 9877 05:28:56,147 --> 05:28:58,148 we get this to be a really 9878 05:28:58,148 --> 05:28:59,750 impactful water quality 9879 05:28:59,750 --> 05:29:01,786 testing so they get the actual 9880 05:29:01,786 --> 05:29:04,880 steps to correct the problem. 9881 05:29:04,880 --> 05:29:05,690 The beaches to to monitor the 9882 05:29:05,690 --> 05:29:06,791 harbor to actually have good 9883 05:29:06,791 --> 05:29:07,958 results. And that's what the 9884 05:29:07,958 --> 05:29:09,227 commissioner is saying, right? 9885 05:29:09,227 --> 05:29:11,227 You're governmental affairs. 9886 05:29:12,263 --> 05:29:12,530 People can also probably 9887 05:29:12,530 --> 05:29:14,530 reassess. 9888 05:29:15,333 --> 05:29:16,201 >> Liaising with the epa to 9889 05:29:16,201 --> 05:29:16,767 see. 9890 05:29:16,767 --> 05:29:17,402 >> Because, of course, you 9891 05:29:17,402 --> 05:29:18,570 remember this is a federal 9892 05:29:18,570 --> 05:29:22,170 issue and then a state issue 9893 05:29:22,207 --> 05:29:23,274 and the local issue. And 9894 05:29:23,274 --> 05:29:25,100 sometimes those things 9895 05:29:25,100 --> 05:29:27,450 restrict what we can do on the 9896 05:29:27,450 --> 05:29:27,645 local issue. But on the other 9897 05:29:27,645 --> 05:29:28,880 hand, the state and the feds 9898 05:29:28,880 --> 05:29:30,615 have a lot more money and 9899 05:29:30,615 --> 05:29:31,749 equipment and ability to do 9900 05:29:31,749 --> 05:29:33,785 things. So that's another 9901 05:29:33,785 --> 05:29:35,420 thing. Sometimes governmental 9902 05:29:35,420 --> 05:29:37,820 affairs can put together. 9903 05:29:38,857 --> 05:29:40,158 Funding asked based on seeing 9904 05:29:40,158 --> 05:29:40,759 what state the e p and what 9905 05:29:40,759 --> 05:29:42,260 the federal epa can do. Said 9906 05:29:42,260 --> 05:29:45,197 that you can shortcut some of 9907 05:29:45,197 --> 05:29:46,165 the costs and timing. 9908 05:29:46,165 --> 05:29:48,565 >> want to call in 9909 05:29:48,733 --> 05:29:49,501 Commissioner Carey 9910 05:29:49,501 --> 05:29:50,102 Commissioner Some of those 9911 05:29:50,102 --> 05:29:51,770 still holding the afterwards. 9912 05:29:51,770 --> 05:29:54,170 Thank you, Commissioner Okay. 9913 05:29:54,673 --> 05:29:55,241 Thank you, MR. Mayor, few 9914 05:29:55,241 --> 05:29:57,241 questions, Allison, they're 9915 05:29:59,110 --> 05:30:02,611 probably going to be for you 9916 05:30:02,982 --> 05:30:03,549 okay, first of all, I know the 9917 05:30:03,549 --> 05:30:04,150 community is hungry to know 9918 05:30:04,150 --> 05:30:07,286 what is going on right in the 9919 05:30:07,286 --> 05:30:09,888 waters. Is there not a litany 9920 05:30:09,888 --> 05:30:11,390 of water testing going on by 9921 05:30:11,390 --> 05:30:12,991 million different places right 9922 05:30:12,991 --> 05:30:13,860 now, the health department, 9923 05:30:13,860 --> 05:30:17,396 the county sounds like c f k 9924 05:30:17,396 --> 05:30:18,297 is also testing. So there is 9925 05:30:18,297 --> 05:30:20,933 water quality testing going on 9926 05:30:20,933 --> 05:30:23,803 on many different levels by 9927 05:30:23,803 --> 05:30:24,637 many different entities. That 9928 05:30:24,637 --> 05:30:25,671 correct. 9929 05:30:25,671 --> 05:30:27,807 >> As you heard from Ashley, 9930 05:30:27,807 --> 05:30:28,741 they have collected 113,000 9931 05:30:28,741 --> 05:30:31,678 data points. They are all 9932 05:30:31,678 --> 05:30:32,612 looking at different things in 9933 05:30:32,612 --> 05:30:33,246 different places. The intent 9934 05:30:33,246 --> 05:30:36,116 of us collecting all the state 9935 05:30:36,116 --> 05:30:37,317 to look where there are gaps 9936 05:30:37,317 --> 05:30:37,951 or to look the most important 9937 05:30:37,951 --> 05:30:41,521 part is to figure out where we 9938 05:30:41,521 --> 05:30:43,590 do have problems come up with 9939 05:30:43,590 --> 05:30:44,557 actions that would reduce 9940 05:30:44,557 --> 05:30:46,492 those problems and then be 9941 05:30:46,492 --> 05:30:47,927 able to monitor that. We did 9942 05:30:47,927 --> 05:30:49,290 actually make a change. So it 9943 05:30:49,290 --> 05:30:51,640 makes no sense to monitor for 9944 05:30:51,640 --> 05:30:53,133 monitoring sake. We want to 9945 05:30:53,133 --> 05:30:54,267 make changes, but we do 9946 05:30:54,267 --> 05:30:56,267 currently have monitoring 9947 05:30:57,971 --> 05:30:58,271 going on with results of that 9948 05:30:58,271 --> 05:30:58,939 monitoring. 9949 05:30:58,939 --> 05:31:00,874 >> In different things for 9950 05:31:00,874 --> 05:31:01,441 different places. Yes, 113 9951 05:31:01,441 --> 05:31:02,876 data points. And I think at 9952 05:31:02,876 --> 05:31:04,878 some point we said we have 30 9953 05:31:04,878 --> 05:31:07,878 years worth of data. Alright, 9954 05:31:10,150 --> 05:31:11,218 that's okay. Is there 9955 05:31:11,218 --> 05:31:12,190 somewhere? Is there an 9956 05:31:12,190 --> 05:31:15,190 opportunity for the city to 9957 05:31:15,255 --> 05:31:17,224 provide a To me? Those results 9958 05:31:17,224 --> 05:31:19,893 aren't a secret right? Their 9959 05:31:19,893 --> 05:31:20,493 public, they are shared. So 9960 05:31:20,493 --> 05:31:22,663 there's a lot of information 9961 05:31:22,663 --> 05:31:23,663 on water quality that we can 9962 05:31:23,663 --> 05:31:26,633 share with the public is just 9963 05:31:26,633 --> 05:31:27,434 spread out all over the place. 9964 05:31:27,434 --> 05:31:28,340 So that's a fun thing with raw 9965 05:31:28,340 --> 05:31:28,736 data is it's hard to actually 9966 05:31:28,736 --> 05:31:31,271 know what any of that means. 9967 05:31:31,271 --> 05:31:34,410 It's dots and numbers, but 9968 05:31:34,410 --> 05:31:35,309 that's the whole point of 9969 05:31:35,309 --> 05:31:35,876 task. One is in the summer. 9970 05:31:35,876 --> 05:31:36,510 You guys are going to get a 9971 05:31:36,510 --> 05:31:38,910 technical memo that summarizes 9972 05:31:39,280 --> 05:31:42,880 all that data and what is 9973 05:31:43,160 --> 05:31:43,984 known generally from that as 9974 05:31:43,984 --> 05:31:45,419 well as what are potential 9975 05:31:45,419 --> 05:31:46,320 options are. But we don't need 9976 05:31:46,320 --> 05:31:46,954 equipment for that. That 9977 05:31:46,954 --> 05:31:49,954 doesn't cost us anything. That 9978 05:31:50,391 --> 05:31:52,791 data analysis. Could have 9979 05:31:53,361 --> 05:31:54,862 started 2 years ago 3 years 9980 05:31:54,862 --> 05:31:58,990 ago. It started when we just 9981 05:31:58,990 --> 05:31:59,300 decided to run this program we 9982 05:31:59,300 --> 05:31:59,901 hired them to start looking at 9983 05:31:59,901 --> 05:32:02,301 that comprehensively for our 9984 05:32:06,273 --> 05:32:08,176 island. The testing that is 9985 05:32:08,176 --> 05:32:09,243 currently going on some of 9986 05:32:09,243 --> 05:32:12,843 that testing. Does give us the 9987 05:32:12,847 --> 05:32:13,847 source of the contaminants. 9988 05:32:13,847 --> 05:32:14,482 It's testing specifically for 9989 05:32:14,482 --> 05:32:17,482 whether it's coming from birds 9990 05:32:19,854 --> 05:32:20,555 are coming from. We didn't do 9991 05:32:20,555 --> 05:32:21,522 one those 20 years ago. That 9992 05:32:21,522 --> 05:32:23,959 was Every single one looks for 9993 05:32:23,959 --> 05:32:25,227 something different. But so 9994 05:32:25,227 --> 05:32:27,696 you might if they are 9995 05:32:27,696 --> 05:32:29,798 specifically looking for human 9996 05:32:29,798 --> 05:32:31,798 contaminants, they're looking 9997 05:32:32,133 --> 05:32:36,333 at But we don't at this point 9998 05:32:36,505 --> 05:32:37,306 way to know whether we know 9999 05:32:37,306 --> 05:32:39,374 easy way to know what all the 10000 05:32:39,374 --> 05:32:40,642 sources of the fecal 10001 05:32:40,642 --> 05:32:43,420 contaminants are, because one 10002 05:32:43,544 --> 05:32:44,446 of our main problems would be 10003 05:32:44,446 --> 05:32:45,130 green iguana. And that doesn't 10004 05:32:45,130 --> 05:32:46,748 exist because it's a purely 10005 05:32:46,748 --> 05:32:49,748 south Florida problem. So that 10006 05:32:50,519 --> 05:32:51,120 was one of our asks is, hey, 10007 05:32:51,120 --> 05:32:53,656 can we get full flight? What 10008 05:32:53,656 --> 05:32:57,126 might be in our water? And 10009 05:32:57,126 --> 05:32:57,827 that's what we asked epa for. 10010 05:32:57,827 --> 05:32:59,940 That's some of the tests are 10011 05:32:59,940 --> 05:32:59,562 identifying what the 10012 05:32:59,562 --> 05:33:01,562 contaminants are. Its 10013 05:33:02,531 --> 05:33:03,990 presence. Depends on what 10014 05:33:03,990 --> 05:33:05,533 you're looking for. But if 10015 05:33:05,533 --> 05:33:06,769 you're looking for fecal, 10016 05:33:06,769 --> 05:33:08,471 that's the only thing that the 10017 05:33:08,471 --> 05:33:10,572 beach testing looks for. The h 10018 05:33:10,572 --> 05:33:11,641 does, but its presence 10019 05:33:11,641 --> 05:33:15,241 absence. It's not a it's not 10020 05:33:20,783 --> 05:33:21,283 what or where. And what or 10021 05:33:21,283 --> 05:33:24,200 there is And the other 10022 05:33:24,200 --> 05:33:26,220 question was so the so cfp is 10023 05:33:26,220 --> 05:33:26,656 currently conducting testing 10024 05:33:26,656 --> 05:33:30,256 with the equipment that we pay 10025 05:33:31,427 --> 05:33:31,994 for half of. That that deal 10026 05:33:31,994 --> 05:33:35,231 was part of the second epa 10027 05:33:35,231 --> 05:33:36,320 grant that they got and they 10028 05:33:36,320 --> 05:33:38,734 are of that deliverable is 10029 05:33:38,734 --> 05:33:41,134 they've been looking at 10030 05:33:41,838 --> 05:33:43,173 hydrogen sulfide off of Mount 10031 05:33:43,173 --> 05:33:46,173 Trashmore. It isn't looking at 10032 05:33:46,810 --> 05:33:47,377 loose around the a boat 10033 05:33:47,377 --> 05:33:49,777 moorings and they've been 10034 05:33:51,181 --> 05:33:53,215 looking at and at the beaches, 10035 05:33:53,215 --> 05:33:54,384 I don't believe underwater 10036 05:33:54,384 --> 05:33:54,951 vessels using all 3 of those 10037 05:33:54,951 --> 05:33:55,719 spots. And it definitely is 10038 05:33:55,719 --> 05:33:57,621 used for about trash normally. 10039 05:33:57,621 --> 05:34:00,557 And those results are they're 10040 05:34:00,557 --> 05:34:01,458 still so just like we had the 10041 05:34:01,458 --> 05:34:02,250 the very first up, a one 10042 05:34:02,250 --> 05:34:02,592 started 3 years ago. We'll 10043 05:34:02,592 --> 05:34:05,592 probably know about it next 10044 05:34:08,931 --> 05:34:10,000 year. And maybe there's a way 10045 05:34:10,000 --> 05:34:10,533 to provide this letter from cf 10046 05:34:10,533 --> 05:34:13,437 cases. I think we heard 2 10047 05:34:13,437 --> 05:34:14,370 speakers saying that it keeps 10048 05:34:14,370 --> 05:34:14,838 coming up and coming up. And 10049 05:34:14,838 --> 05:34:17,838 this is like a 2 year-old 10050 05:34:18,208 --> 05:34:20,277 problem now. But but it does 10051 05:34:20,277 --> 05:34:22,212 matter because it keeps coming 10052 05:34:22,212 --> 05:34:22,880 up. And we had 2 speakers both 10053 05:34:22,880 --> 05:34:24,514 representing safer, cleaner 10054 05:34:24,514 --> 05:34:26,150 ships saying that it matters 10055 05:34:26,150 --> 05:34:26,750 to them and we have the dias 10056 05:34:26,750 --> 05:34:28,986 talking about it. So I think 10057 05:34:28,986 --> 05:34:29,553 it does matter. People are 10058 05:34:29,553 --> 05:34:32,423 asking about it and talking 10059 05:34:32,423 --> 05:34:35,159 about it. But there is a 10060 05:34:35,159 --> 05:34:36,360 letter with signatures on it 10061 05:34:36,360 --> 05:34:39,396 that we all have access to 10062 05:34:39,396 --> 05:34:40,263 that says very clearly. I 10063 05:34:40,263 --> 05:34:40,831 don't know MR. Benson wants a 10064 05:34:40,831 --> 05:34:44,431 copy of it like that might 10065 05:34:44,635 --> 05:34:45,135 help you. But it says it very 10066 05:34:45,135 --> 05:34:47,535 clearly here signed by 10067 05:34:48,940 --> 05:34:50,940 Brittany Cider. Referencing 10068 05:34:50,942 --> 05:34:51,943 Drg that they want absolutely 10069 05:34:51,943 --> 05:34:52,477 nothing to do with it. They 10070 05:34:52,477 --> 05:34:54,811 withdraw from any further 10071 05:34:54,811 --> 05:34:57,211 negotiations like it's. It's 10072 05:34:57,582 --> 05:34:59,117 it's it's a up thing. It's 10073 05:34:59,117 --> 05:34:59,717 real. So maybe there's a way 10074 05:34:59,717 --> 05:35:03,655 to put it to that by sharing 10075 05:35:03,655 --> 05:35:05,557 it the public. Why the car? I 10076 05:35:05,557 --> 05:35:07,759 mean, I think it matters with 10077 05:35:07,759 --> 05:35:09,561 Item to play again. What's can 10078 05:35:09,561 --> 05:35:11,262 bite them to play again, 10079 05:35:11,262 --> 05:35:11,796 perhaps. But under a new 10080 05:35:11,796 --> 05:35:14,796 commission and was a new 10081 05:35:14,799 --> 05:35:15,433 PRESIDENT. You know, because 10082 05:35:15,433 --> 05:35:17,502 the PRESIDENT That was there's 10083 05:35:17,502 --> 05:35:18,203 the one that said you don't 10084 05:35:18,203 --> 05:35:21,803 want anything to do with the 10085 05:35:22,673 --> 05:35:23,809 city So perhaps. I would just 10086 05:35:23,809 --> 05:35:24,809 think that all of the testing 10087 05:35:24,809 --> 05:35:26,712 that's currently going on the 10088 05:35:26,712 --> 05:35:28,180 30 years of data, the 112 data 10089 05:35:28,180 --> 05:35:29,848 points we keep collecting in 10090 05:35:29,848 --> 05:35:30,414 collecting and collecting 10091 05:35:30,414 --> 05:35:33,414 information for a very long 10092 05:35:33,585 --> 05:35:34,152 period of time. But we still 10093 05:35:34,152 --> 05:35:34,986 can't tell people why they 10094 05:35:34,986 --> 05:35:38,586 can't take their kids to the 10095 05:35:38,990 --> 05:35:39,591 beach. We can't say it's a 10096 05:35:39,591 --> 05:35:42,591 chicken problem. We can't say 10097 05:35:42,928 --> 05:35:43,529 it's an Elon a problem. So. We 10098 05:35:43,529 --> 05:35:46,529 will bring the dollar figure 10099 05:35:48,667 --> 05:35:50,435 to you next month. Great book. 10100 05:35:50,435 --> 05:35:53,435 All could I'm sorry, Burrows 10101 05:35:56,442 --> 05:35:59,442 missed MR. Mayor. Committed to 10102 05:36:00,446 --> 05:36:01,580 the 10th. So yes, the will be. 10103 05:36:01,580 --> 05:36:03,449 >> the newspaper will read 10104 05:36:03,449 --> 05:36:04,817 that. We do have those numbers 10105 05:36:04,817 --> 05:36:05,451 already because they part of 10106 05:36:05,451 --> 05:36:08,200 the grant. That's what I pluck 10107 05:36:08,200 --> 05:36:08,621 a feel comfortable that the 10108 05:36:08,621 --> 05:36:11,210 information you're asking at 10109 05:36:12,592 --> 05:36:13,192 least cursory outside of the 10110 05:36:13,192 --> 05:36:14,927 legislative directive. We're 10111 05:36:14,927 --> 05:36:16,329 be able to produce at the 10112 05:36:16,329 --> 05:36:18,897 10th. And if we're unable able 10113 05:36:18,897 --> 05:36:19,465 to that's good. 10114 05:36:19,465 --> 05:36:22,465 >> I just want to say 10115 05:36:22,568 --> 05:36:26,168 something as Mayor Drg a fine 10116 05:36:28,341 --> 05:36:29,609 man. Drg was a great leader of 10117 05:36:29,609 --> 05:36:32,609 the college and he shouldn't 10118 05:36:32,778 --> 05:36:34,800 be disparaged by the stylus. 10119 05:36:34,800 --> 05:36:34,981 To say that he wanted nothing 10120 05:36:34,981 --> 05:36:35,515 to do with the city is not 10121 05:36:35,515 --> 05:36:37,915 appropriate. With all due 10122 05:36:38,417 --> 05:36:41,388 respect. It's just that the 10123 05:36:41,388 --> 05:36:43,423 words are words matter and 10124 05:36:43,423 --> 05:36:44,523 individuals deserve respect 10125 05:36:44,523 --> 05:36:47,561 and he's not here to defend 10126 05:36:47,561 --> 05:36:48,694 himself. Just want to say, I 10127 05:36:48,694 --> 05:36:49,262 think we should treat each 10128 05:36:49,262 --> 05:36:51,998 other with respect. I'm not 10129 05:36:51,998 --> 05:36:54,330 saying I'm not. Casting 10130 05:36:54,330 --> 05:36:54,568 anything us you're you could 10131 05:36:54,568 --> 05:36:57,300 be right. But I think we 10132 05:36:57,300 --> 05:36:59,606 should be careful with how we 10133 05:36:59,606 --> 05:37:01,475 speak and when you have 10134 05:37:01,475 --> 05:37:03,276 somebody who's not specially 10135 05:37:03,276 --> 05:37:03,743 night here and a man who has 10136 05:37:03,743 --> 05:37:06,379 done so much for our 10137 05:37:06,379 --> 05:37:08,779 community, we should. We 10138 05:37:10,583 --> 05:37:11,118 should be mindful of that. So 10139 05:37:11,118 --> 05:37:14,321 moving the next I think a 10140 05:37:14,321 --> 05:37:16,721 mission that school. Yes. 10141 05:37:17,457 --> 05:37:19,857 Thank you, MR. Mayor. 10142 05:37:24,565 --> 05:37:25,132 >> Circling back to Seas 10143 05:37:25,132 --> 05:37:28,132 >> please to, you know, get 10144 05:37:30,604 --> 05:37:32,338 something done. Now and and 10145 05:37:32,338 --> 05:37:32,939 then we started talking about 10146 05:37:32,939 --> 05:37:35,939 doing different stuff in the 10147 05:37:37,377 --> 05:37:39,579 future. But right now. I 10148 05:37:39,579 --> 05:37:40,213 believe we could we could have 10149 05:37:40,213 --> 05:37:42,830 resolution at the next meeting 10150 05:37:42,830 --> 05:37:43,684 to buy the $46,000 worth of 10151 05:37:43,684 --> 05:37:44,285 equipment. We could have. That 10152 05:37:44,285 --> 05:37:48,485 is back up. I don't think we 10153 05:37:49,550 --> 05:37:50,390 really need that. I think that 10154 05:37:50,390 --> 05:37:52,790 manager has within his 10155 05:37:53,327 --> 05:37:55,727 purview. He can spend $46,000 10156 05:37:55,763 --> 05:37:57,265 without asking us for our 10157 05:37:57,265 --> 05:37:57,865 approval. He can spend up to 10158 05:37:57,865 --> 05:37:59,865 $100,000. 10159 05:38:00,535 --> 05:38:01,169 >> Without asking us for our 10160 05:38:01,169 --> 05:38:03,471 approval. I think he's getting 10161 05:38:03,471 --> 05:38:04,672 direction that yeah, we want 10162 05:38:04,672 --> 05:38:07,242 we want to buy that piece of 10163 05:38:07,242 --> 05:38:08,510 equipment for the harbor 10164 05:38:08,510 --> 05:38:10,577 monitoring. Now out of this 10165 05:38:10,577 --> 05:38:12,280 fiscal year's budget, 10166 05:38:12,280 --> 05:38:15,880 preferably and then we do want 10167 05:38:16,251 --> 05:38:18,219 to look into next year having 10168 05:38:18,219 --> 05:38:19,253 a more robust testing system 10169 05:38:19,253 --> 05:38:21,653 with different equipment. And 10170 05:38:22,757 --> 05:38:24,793 I do is stand tax contract. 10171 05:38:24,793 --> 05:38:27,950 When is that a one-year 10172 05:38:27,950 --> 05:38:28,630 contract? So whenever well, 10173 05:38:28,630 --> 05:38:29,300 whenever it renews our, if we 10174 05:38:29,300 --> 05:38:31,733 we know that think a lot for 10175 05:38:31,733 --> 05:38:33,167 fp again, you know, to add it 10176 05:38:33,167 --> 05:38:35,237 to add more deliverables to 10177 05:38:35,237 --> 05:38:37,538 that. But for now, we could 10178 05:38:37,538 --> 05:38:40,538 get the the 46,000 get the 10179 05:38:43,312 --> 05:38:43,912 point in time. Grab sampling 10180 05:38:43,912 --> 05:38:46,912 started. It's not great, but 10181 05:38:47,483 --> 05:38:48,617 it's better than nothing. And 10182 05:38:48,617 --> 05:38:51,286 then we can go on to develop a 10183 05:38:51,286 --> 05:38:53,288 to purchase a more robust 10184 05:38:53,288 --> 05:38:55,891 system. I just want to say, 10185 05:38:55,891 --> 05:38:56,558 look, this is a this is our 10186 05:38:56,558 --> 05:38:57,192 first water quality 10187 05:38:57,192 --> 05:38:58,493 presentation and discussion in 10188 05:38:58,493 --> 05:39:00,493 almost 2 years. 10189 05:39:01,797 --> 05:39:02,832 >> So let's take the win that 10190 05:39:02,832 --> 05:39:03,933 we had a good meeting and we 10191 05:39:03,933 --> 05:39:04,166 had a good discussion and 10192 05:39:04,166 --> 05:39:06,166 staff. 10193 05:39:06,235 --> 05:39:08,237 >> I think that a lot of 10194 05:39:08,237 --> 05:39:09,238 direction. So and I so I 10195 05:39:09,238 --> 05:39:09,839 really think what you're 10196 05:39:09,839 --> 05:39:11,839 saying, Commissioner Haskell 10197 05:39:11,973 --> 05:39:12,540 and see a spot on and they 10198 05:39:12,540 --> 05:39:15,540 have, I think the direction 10199 05:39:16,780 --> 05:39:16,679 enough for tonight. And 10200 05:39:16,679 --> 05:39:17,346 OCTOBER and SEPTEMBER 10th is 10201 05:39:17,346 --> 05:39:18,914 only 7 days from now. We're 10202 05:39:18,914 --> 05:39:20,160 going to get a lot more from 10203 05:39:20,160 --> 05:39:23,160 that. Okay. Anybody else who 10204 05:39:23,152 --> 05:39:26,152 hasn't had a chance yet. 2. 10205 05:39:27,890 --> 05:39:28,491 Nearly a year. Okay. I anybody 10206 05:39:28,491 --> 05:39:29,580 else than who was already had 10207 05:39:29,580 --> 05:39:32,428 a chance to speak, want to 10208 05:39:32,428 --> 05:39:32,962 speak. Now that I think we can 10209 05:39:32,962 --> 05:39:34,630 move on to the next item. 10210 05:39:34,630 --> 05:39:35,231 Thank you so much for your 10211 05:39:35,231 --> 05:39:37,367 presentation. Your hard work. 10212 05:39:37,367 --> 05:39:37,967 We really appreciate it. 10213 05:39:37,967 --> 05:39:40,367 >> Thank commissioner. At the 10214 05:39:44,700 --> 05:39:46,676 time. Okay. We'll move on to 10215 05:39:46,676 --> 05:39:47,811 resolutions. Item number. 46 10216 05:39:47,811 --> 05:39:48,344 approving pet perpetual 10217 05:39:48,344 --> 05:39:49,212 easement donations to the 10218 05:39:49,212 --> 05:39:52,212 state of Florida Department of 10219 05:39:53,500 --> 05:39:55,500 Transportation for Parcel 800 10220 05:39:55,218 --> 05:39:55,785 and 801 associated with fdot 10221 05:39:55,785 --> 05:39:58,785 Project f and number fought 10222 05:39:59,489 --> 05:40:00,190 for 5, 4, 101, dash one 10223 05:40:00,190 --> 05:40:02,590 authorizing the mayor to 10224 05:40:02,592 --> 05:40:03,693 execute the perpetual easement 10225 05:40:03,693 --> 05:40:04,660 documents donation forms and 10226 05:40:04,660 --> 05:40:06,530 any necessary related 10227 05:40:06,530 --> 05:40:09,530 documents upon the advice and 10228 05:40:10,867 --> 05:40:11,435 consent of the city attorney. 10229 05:40:11,435 --> 05:40:14,471 Ok, my first cause as usual 10230 05:40:14,471 --> 05:40:16,471 hearing. 10231 05:40:17,641 --> 05:40:19,777 >> Is because it's not quite 10232 05:40:19,777 --> 05:40:21,845 >> I'm not sure how that got. 10233 05:40:21,845 --> 05:40:24,615 Is simply okay. Good. That's 10234 05:40:24,615 --> 05:40:25,215 not my first grants for of 10235 05:40:25,215 --> 05:40:27,215 investment interest pursuant 10236 05:40:28,786 --> 05:40:29,887 to the state meeting 400 feet 10237 05:40:29,887 --> 05:40:31,922 and 300 square feet to put a 10238 05:40:31,922 --> 05:40:34,158 mask storm soaking part of 10239 05:40:34,158 --> 05:40:34,892 this project. I know it got 10240 05:40:34,892 --> 05:40:35,893 denominated that but we don't 10241 05:40:35,893 --> 05:40:38,293 need take. Testimony really 10242 05:40:39,697 --> 05:40:42,466 just your approval to proceed. 10243 05:40:42,466 --> 05:40:44,669 It's a condition of fdot. 10244 05:40:44,669 --> 05:40:45,702 Participation and half funding 10245 05:40:45,702 --> 05:40:46,437 mess. MADAM City attorney, I 10246 05:40:46,437 --> 05:40:47,400 do not have to have a quasi 10247 05:40:47,400 --> 05:40:49,404 judicial hearing that it's 10248 05:40:50,274 --> 05:40:53,110 perfectly ok with me. So is 10249 05:40:53,110 --> 05:40:55,579 there at your teeth next is 10250 05:40:55,579 --> 05:40:56,147 there a or the next or the 10251 05:40:56,147 --> 05:40:58,282 next item? Yeah. So what is 10252 05:40:58,282 --> 05:40:58,916 there a? 10253 05:40:58,916 --> 05:40:59,851 >> Presentation from staffers? 10254 05:40:59,851 --> 05:41:03,787 Are we in a motion? How should 10255 05:41:03,787 --> 05:41:04,622 we proceed? MR. Maher at and 10256 05:41:04,622 --> 05:41:05,189 for the sake of not bringing 10257 05:41:05,189 --> 05:41:08,793 that up by this is the Jose 10258 05:41:08,793 --> 05:41:09,727 more team at. I think familiar 10259 05:41:09,727 --> 05:41:11,729 with the one of the 10260 05:41:11,729 --> 05:41:13,731 requirements for the fdot 10261 05:41:13,731 --> 05:41:14,733 project. And don't think it 10262 05:41:14,733 --> 05:41:15,367 needs a presentation. Any 10263 05:41:15,367 --> 05:41:18,367 discussion or a motion. Second 10264 05:41:19,671 --> 05:41:20,171 here. Okay. I heard Vice Mayor 10265 05:41:20,171 --> 05:41:21,720 Lee make the motion and 10266 05:41:21,720 --> 05:41:23,472 Commissioner Ross the second. 10267 05:41:24,410 --> 05:41:26,544 Is there discussion. Is this 10268 05:41:26,544 --> 05:41:28,944 question, please? Yes, go 10269 05:41:29,714 --> 05:41:32,714 ahead, MR. Commissioner, a He 10270 05:41:33,684 --> 05:41:36,840 microphone. We're working with 10271 05:41:36,254 --> 05:41:37,856 fdot on a transfer of some 10272 05:41:37,856 --> 05:41:38,490 property. 10273 05:41:38,490 --> 05:41:42,900 >> Down by Jose Marti Park. Is 10274 05:41:42,361 --> 05:41:44,730 that correct? Truman Avenue? 10275 05:41:44,730 --> 05:41:46,231 >> to give them an easement 10276 05:41:46,231 --> 05:41:49,268 easement small is in area. So 10277 05:41:49,268 --> 05:41:50,936 but you hear this one. So I 10278 05:41:50,936 --> 05:41:53,936 have no problems with that. 10279 05:41:54,739 --> 05:41:57,109 But at the same time, I'd like 10280 05:41:57,109 --> 05:41:57,676 work basement problem to get a 10281 05:41:57,676 --> 05:42:00,676 sign says welcome City Key 10282 05:42:01,280 --> 05:42:01,913 West right there Triangle. 10283 05:42:01,913 --> 05:42:04,483 Okay. We're doing. We're doing 10284 05:42:04,483 --> 05:42:05,170 easement with these people. We 10285 05:42:05,170 --> 05:42:08,530 should be able to give a 10286 05:42:08,530 --> 05:42:11,653 little and take a little. It's 10287 05:42:12,358 --> 05:42:14,493 simple. I think we should try 10288 05:42:14,493 --> 05:42:18,930 it. So this enunciate we just 10289 05:42:18,797 --> 05:42:19,799 want to put signed bat. 10290 05:42:19,799 --> 05:42:20,399 Everybody. That's my district. 10291 05:42:20,399 --> 05:42:21,868 2 commissioner. He represents 10292 05:42:21,868 --> 05:42:23,803 me. I live in District 2. 10293 05:42:23,803 --> 05:42:25,638 Thank you. 10294 05:42:25,638 --> 05:42:26,205 >> Thank Commissioner Austin. 10295 05:42:26,205 --> 05:42:27,874 Were given these safely you 10296 05:42:27,874 --> 05:42:30,874 know, do little here. And 10297 05:42:32,979 --> 05:42:33,513 there make everybody happy. I 10298 05:42:33,513 --> 05:42:36,513 it. It's great for Mister 10299 05:42:37,382 --> 05:42:38,383 Mayor, thank See it. You ask. 10300 05:42:38,383 --> 05:42:40,320 And it's been delivered. We we 10301 05:42:40,320 --> 05:42:41,520 have an easement for the 10302 05:42:41,520 --> 05:42:43,389 welcome signs good. What we're 10303 05:42:43,389 --> 05:42:44,220 waiting on now is we brought a 10304 05:42:44,220 --> 05:42:47,327 rendering. It was said that it 10305 05:42:47,327 --> 05:42:48,128 looked like a tombstone. 10306 05:42:48,128 --> 05:42:50,196 >> So what we've ip to do is 10307 05:42:50,196 --> 05:42:52,232 to bring back another 10308 05:42:52,232 --> 05:42:54,232 recommendation. So they 10309 05:42:54,500 --> 05:42:55,769 acquiesced. This is actually 10310 05:42:55,769 --> 05:42:56,970 for the lift station and part 10311 05:42:56,970 --> 05:42:59,970 of the controls for the 10312 05:43:00,606 --> 05:43:01,308 traffic light so. But we have 10313 05:43:01,308 --> 05:43:01,908 an easement for our welcome 10314 05:43:01,908 --> 05:43:05,344 sign and arca by sign. Thank 10315 05:43:05,344 --> 05:43:06,380 you for coming. And we feel 10316 05:43:06,380 --> 05:43:07,681 very comfortable to sell you 10317 05:43:07,681 --> 05:43:08,281 that we're going to be 10318 05:43:08,281 --> 05:43:10,681 bringing a recommendation to 10319 05:43:11,251 --> 05:43:11,818 the OCTOBER meeting for that. 10320 05:43:11,818 --> 05:43:14,218 >> Good. Thank you. Because 10321 05:43:15,154 --> 05:43:15,656 it's been a long time I agree. 10322 05:43:15,656 --> 05:43:16,290 >> Ok, getting back to 10323 05:43:16,290 --> 05:43:18,290 appreciate that. Commissioner. 10324 05:43:19,590 --> 05:43:19,626 Also take you. But getting 10325 05:43:19,626 --> 05:43:22,626 back to the number. 46, we 10326 05:43:24,464 --> 05:43:25,320 have we have a motion anymore 10327 05:43:25,320 --> 05:43:27,900 discussion. Can we call the 10328 05:43:27,900 --> 05:43:28,469 roll Commissioner Carey yet? 10329 05:43:28,469 --> 05:43:29,970 Commissioner Casteel? Yes, 10330 05:43:29,970 --> 05:43:31,671 commissioner Haskell. Yes. 10331 05:43:31,671 --> 05:43:32,305 Commissioner commissioner 10332 05:43:32,305 --> 05:43:33,740 mascot. Yes. Commissioner Ross 10333 05:43:33,740 --> 05:43:36,740 Sea. Yes. Mayor Coffman. Yes. 10334 05:43:39,747 --> 05:43:40,848 Motion passes. Item number. 47 10335 05:43:40,848 --> 05:43:41,716 approving an easement 10336 05:43:41,716 --> 05:43:44,116 agreement for the property 10337 05:43:44,117 --> 05:43:45,853 located at 5.18, Fleming 10338 05:43:45,853 --> 05:43:47,754 Street Key West, Florida to 10339 05:43:47,754 --> 05:43:48,389 memorialize the existing 10340 05:43:48,389 --> 05:43:48,990 encroachment of a second story 10341 05:43:48,990 --> 05:43:49,557 balcony in a portion of the 10342 05:43:49,557 --> 05:43:51,580 existing building into city 10343 05:43:51,580 --> 05:43:53,930 owned right of way. 10344 05:43:53,930 --> 05:43:55,620 >> Along Fleming Street and 10345 05:43:55,620 --> 05:43:57,164 Bahama Street consisting of 10346 05:43:57,164 --> 05:43:59,164 approximately 167.2 0 square 10347 05:43:59,233 --> 05:44:00,468 feet within the historic 10348 05:44:00,468 --> 05:44:01,200 residential commercial core 10349 05:44:01,200 --> 05:44:03,200 zoning district providing 10350 05:44:03,471 --> 05:44:04,720 conditions of approval 10351 05:44:04,720 --> 05:44:06,472 authorizing execution of the 10352 05:44:07,809 --> 05:44:10,209 easement agreement. And this 10353 05:44:11,120 --> 05:44:11,880 is a quasi judicial I will 10354 05:44:11,880 --> 05:44:14,782 swear in my first quasi 10355 05:44:14,782 --> 05:44:15,650 judicial hearing, everybody 10356 05:44:15,650 --> 05:44:16,917 taking ones excited, providing 10357 05:44:16,917 --> 05:44:17,952 testimony. Do you swear or 10358 05:44:17,952 --> 05:44:18,486 affirm the testimony you will 10359 05:44:18,486 --> 05:44:19,530 give tonight will be the 10360 05:44:19,530 --> 05:44:21,589 truth, the whole truth and 10361 05:44:21,589 --> 05:44:22,220 nothing but the truth. 10362 05:44:22,220 --> 05:44:24,422 >> Okay. Is there a 10363 05:44:29,864 --> 05:44:32,264 presentation by the applicant? 10364 05:44:32,633 --> 05:44:33,134 >> be little bit Make a motion 10365 05:44:33,134 --> 05:44:33,735 to approve. 10366 05:44:33,735 --> 05:44:34,736 >> Yes, appreciate that. But 10367 05:44:34,736 --> 05:44:38,506 there is we have to go through 10368 05:44:38,506 --> 05:44:41,109 the mechanisms. Okay. Is there 10369 05:44:41,109 --> 05:44:41,410 that the the presentation by 10370 05:44:41,410 --> 05:44:42,177 applicant? 10371 05:44:42,177 --> 05:44:43,412 >> Yes, Good evening, MR. 10372 05:44:43,412 --> 05:44:45,412 Mayor Commissioners, Lisa 10373 05:44:47,581 --> 05:44:48,650 Quixote. 21 Simon to see, I 10374 05:44:48,650 --> 05:44:49,952 appreciate that. This is a 10375 05:44:49,952 --> 05:44:51,252 very straightforward easement 10376 05:44:51,252 --> 05:44:52,187 request for a property located 10377 05:44:52,187 --> 05:44:53,721 in the historic district. A 10378 05:44:53,721 --> 05:44:54,656 very small portion of the 10379 05:44:54,656 --> 05:44:57,560 property currently in Comber 10380 05:44:59,227 --> 05:45:00,461 is incumbent. And cumbersome a 10381 05:45:00,461 --> 05:45:02,970 portion of the public right of 10382 05:45:02,970 --> 05:45:03,164 way. So that easement is very 10383 05:45:03,164 --> 05:45:04,833 simply to allow the property 10384 05:45:04,833 --> 05:45:06,235 to be maintaining its current 10385 05:45:06,235 --> 05:45:08,370 condition with the general 10386 05:45:08,370 --> 05:45:08,803 conditions that are proposed 10387 05:45:08,803 --> 05:45:09,672 being met and the applicant 10388 05:45:09,672 --> 05:45:12,672 has no objections to those 10389 05:45:12,742 --> 05:45:14,900 general conditions. Happy to 10390 05:45:14,900 --> 05:45:14,477 answer any questions. Great. 10391 05:45:14,477 --> 05:45:16,912 Thank you. Is there a 10392 05:45:16,912 --> 05:45:19,312 presentation by staff? Yes. 10393 05:45:20,782 --> 05:45:21,317 Thank you, MISTER Mayor Taylor 10394 05:45:21,317 --> 05:45:23,717 Brown, the city planner. 10395 05:45:24,186 --> 05:45:25,587 Welcome to the new members by 10396 05:45:25,587 --> 05:45:28,587 way of introduction, I am 10397 05:45:28,657 --> 05:45:29,659 Taylor bound, but probably 10398 05:45:29,659 --> 05:45:31,493 even those of you have not 10399 05:45:31,493 --> 05:45:33,563 met. Probably know that 10400 05:45:33,563 --> 05:45:34,430 because I'm not to brag, but 10401 05:45:34,430 --> 05:45:35,310 I'm a little bit famous in 10402 05:45:35,310 --> 05:45:37,367 these parts because I have a 10403 05:45:37,367 --> 05:45:39,367 unique distinction that 10404 05:45:39,368 --> 05:45:40,690 throughout all the land or at 10405 05:45:40,690 --> 05:45:42,438 least all the continental 10406 05:45:42,438 --> 05:45:46,380 United States. I am solely the 10407 05:45:49,780 --> 05:45:51,130 southernmost city planner. 10408 05:45:51,130 --> 05:45:52,114 See, we're bringing fun back 10409 05:45:52,114 --> 05:45:52,982 to city Hall. I was I was 10410 05:45:52,982 --> 05:45:55,318 going to compliment you on 10411 05:45:55,318 --> 05:45:56,860 your speech during your 10412 05:45:56,860 --> 05:45:56,686 swearing in. That was the part 10413 05:45:56,686 --> 05:45:58,555 of your speech that resonated 10414 05:45:58,555 --> 05:46:01,992 most with me. And I'm here. 10415 05:46:01,992 --> 05:46:04,928 I've got 2 in that So getting 10416 05:46:04,928 --> 05:46:06,296 to the business at hand, the 10417 05:46:06,296 --> 05:46:08,696 easement is for 5.18, Fleming 10418 05:46:10,233 --> 05:46:12,102 Street Lisa said, it's it's a 10419 05:46:12,102 --> 05:46:13,203 very straight forward small 10420 05:46:13,203 --> 05:46:15,272 request. There's about any 10421 05:46:15,272 --> 05:46:17,700 that's been there for a long 10422 05:46:17,700 --> 05:46:20,607 time. But it does hang over 10423 05:46:20,943 --> 05:46:24,810 the city's right of way and 10424 05:46:24,810 --> 05:46:25,249 just by way of process as as 10425 05:46:25,249 --> 05:46:26,883 things come in as we we review 10426 05:46:26,883 --> 05:46:27,418 a new development proposals 10427 05:46:27,418 --> 05:46:28,180 were trying to bring the 10428 05:46:28,180 --> 05:46:30,418 properties into compliance as 10429 05:46:31,121 --> 05:46:31,722 much as possible. So this is 10430 05:46:31,722 --> 05:46:34,358 just one of those cases, this 10431 05:46:34,358 --> 05:46:36,358 properties being redeveloped 10432 05:46:37,294 --> 05:46:38,462 coffee shop is going to go in 10433 05:46:38,462 --> 05:46:40,331 there. And so anyway, where 10434 05:46:40,331 --> 05:46:43,331 we're just squaring this way 10435 05:46:43,501 --> 05:46:45,603 at the encroachment is about 10436 05:46:45,603 --> 05:46:46,470 167 square feet. It's mostly 10437 05:46:46,470 --> 05:46:47,304 the balcony, although there is 10438 05:46:47,304 --> 05:46:50,273 a little tiny sliver on the 10439 05:46:50,273 --> 05:46:50,907 corner of the building that 10440 05:46:50,907 --> 05:46:53,907 also encroaches. But it's very 10441 05:46:55,379 --> 05:46:55,980 negligible. The code gives the 10442 05:46:55,980 --> 05:46:58,980 city commission the right to 10443 05:46:59,450 --> 05:47:01,180 grant these easements. And 10444 05:47:01,180 --> 05:47:01,619 there is a an annual cost goes 10445 05:47:01,619 --> 05:47:04,889 with it depending on the size 10446 05:47:04,889 --> 05:47:05,490 of the easement for this 10447 05:47:05,490 --> 05:47:08,490 particular one. It's going to 10448 05:47:11,896 --> 05:47:13,131 be about $400 year. You can 10449 05:47:13,131 --> 05:47:16,731 see here on the survey just 10450 05:47:16,801 --> 05:47:17,368 the portion. That's the 167 10451 05:47:17,368 --> 05:47:17,935 square feet that's hanging 10452 05:47:17,935 --> 05:47:20,935 over the city sidewalks. So 10453 05:47:21,940 --> 05:47:22,773 it's it's above. And this is a 10454 05:47:22,773 --> 05:47:25,773 picture of the building and 10455 05:47:28,379 --> 05:47:30,480 said Balcony. It's been the 10456 05:47:30,480 --> 05:47:30,648 worst kept secret in town that 10457 05:47:30,648 --> 05:47:32,117 babies coffee is going to be 10458 05:47:32,117 --> 05:47:35,117 the new tenant and haven't 10459 05:47:35,186 --> 05:47:36,388 been now. So I'm not to I'm 10460 05:47:36,388 --> 05:47:39,223 not giving away another. Yeah. 10461 05:47:39,223 --> 05:47:40,425 They opened nari. That's not 10462 05:47:40,425 --> 05:47:40,992 already public. I know 10463 05:47:40,992 --> 05:47:42,992 everybody's pretty excited 10464 05:47:45,263 --> 05:47:47,899 about that. So the staff 10465 05:47:47,899 --> 05:47:49,868 recommendation is approval. 10466 05:47:49,868 --> 05:47:50,502 There were a number of 10467 05:47:50,502 --> 05:47:51,360 conditions in the staff report 10468 05:47:51,360 --> 05:47:54,373 that we would like you to 10469 05:47:54,373 --> 05:47:56,108 adopt as part of that. The 10470 05:47:56,108 --> 05:47:57,900 resolution before incorporates 10471 05:47:57,900 --> 05:47:59,978 that language and I can take 10472 05:47:59,978 --> 05:48:01,213 any questions that you MAY 10473 05:48:01,213 --> 05:48:01,813 have. I'll second the motion, 10474 05:48:01,813 --> 05:48:04,813 ok? We're almost there, guys. 10475 05:48:06,118 --> 05:48:07,253 We're getting there. 10476 05:48:07,253 --> 05:48:10,155 >> Is there any questions for 10477 05:48:10,155 --> 05:48:10,756 staff? Okay. So moving on, is 10478 05:48:10,756 --> 05:48:12,925 there is there public comment 10479 05:48:12,925 --> 05:48:14,660 in favor of the application? 10480 05:48:14,660 --> 05:48:15,261 No one has signed up. Okay. Is 10481 05:48:15,261 --> 05:48:17,661 there public comment in 10482 05:48:18,730 --> 05:48:21,130 opposition to the application? 10483 05:48:21,466 --> 05:48:23,569 Going once going twice? So 10484 05:48:23,569 --> 05:48:26,672 okay. Now we have a motion. 10485 05:48:26,672 --> 05:48:28,574 The a motion by Rossi seconded 10486 05:48:28,574 --> 05:48:30,376 by Commissioner Castillo. And 10487 05:48:30,376 --> 05:48:30,943 does that include all the 10488 05:48:30,943 --> 05:48:31,543 conditions that in the the 10489 05:48:31,543 --> 05:48:32,545 staff report? Conditions set 10490 05:48:32,545 --> 05:48:34,545 forth. Okay, anymore. 10491 05:48:37,250 --> 05:48:38,183 Discussion. Ok, would you 10492 05:48:38,183 --> 05:48:41,183 please call the roll? That 10493 05:48:41,788 --> 05:48:42,788 Commissioner Carey yet 10494 05:48:42,788 --> 05:48:44,900 commissioner Casteel. Yes, 10495 05:48:44,900 --> 05:48:45,859 commissioner Haskell. Yes, 10496 05:48:45,859 --> 05:48:47,327 commissioner Lee. Yes, MR. A 10497 05:48:47,327 --> 05:48:49,327 mascot. Yes. 10498 05:48:50,797 --> 05:48:51,498 >> see, yes. Mayor Coffman. 10499 05:48:51,498 --> 05:48:52,640 just want. 10500 05:48:52,640 --> 05:48:52,632 >> Applause. These people. 10501 05:48:52,632 --> 05:48:54,233 They really did a beautiful 10502 05:48:54,233 --> 05:48:57,233 job done. There. Clean that 10503 05:48:58,304 --> 05:48:59,710 building up the man my hats 10504 05:48:59,710 --> 05:49:00,840 off to you, but a lot of money 10505 05:49:00,840 --> 05:49:01,975 into that place. So watch it 10506 05:49:01,975 --> 05:49:02,609 remodeled and thank you for 10507 05:49:02,609 --> 05:49:04,177 cleaning up an eyesore down on 10508 05:49:04,177 --> 05:49:04,744 fun. And sir. 10509 05:49:04,744 --> 05:49:07,480 >> And thank you as Nice to 10510 05:49:07,480 --> 05:49:11,800 see you. Thank you. Ok, moving 10511 05:49:11,151 --> 05:49:12,919 on, mix it up. 48 U.S. 10512 05:49:12,919 --> 05:49:13,986 Withdrawal number. 49, 10513 05:49:13,986 --> 05:49:15,550 requesting in postponed to 10514 05:49:15,550 --> 05:49:18,550 OCTOBER. 1st there, a motion 10515 05:49:20,260 --> 05:49:20,893 they Motion by See second by 10516 05:49:20,893 --> 05:49:22,596 Commissioner Casteel all those 10517 05:49:22,596 --> 05:49:25,596 in favor. Aye. Any opposed 10518 05:49:26,266 --> 05:49:26,867 hearing. None motion carries 10519 05:49:26,867 --> 05:49:27,400 ordinances. First reading an 10520 05:49:27,400 --> 05:49:28,668 ordinance of the city 10521 05:49:28,668 --> 05:49:29,303 Commission of the City of Key 10522 05:49:29,303 --> 05:49:31,405 West Florida to amend portions 10523 05:49:31,405 --> 05:49:33,405 of division. One. 10524 05:49:33,973 --> 05:49:34,875 >> Generally and to license 10525 05:49:34,875 --> 05:49:36,875 license of Chapter 18 10526 05:49:38,679 --> 05:49:39,179 businesses. Article 6 mobile 10527 05:49:39,179 --> 05:49:40,648 vendors of the code of 10528 05:49:40,648 --> 05:49:41,716 ordinances of the City of Key 10529 05:49:41,716 --> 05:49:44,116 West Florida amending Section 10530 05:49:46,653 --> 05:49:48,653 18 Dash 2.87 section 18 dash 10531 05:49:49,589 --> 05:49:53,930 3, 1, a one, a 2, a 4 in a 8 10532 05:49:53,930 --> 05:49:55,493 section, 18 dash 3 to 0 b 10533 05:49:56,396 --> 05:49:59,996 section 3.21 c Section b and c 10534 05:50:00,434 --> 05:50:01,536 section 18 dash 3.23 amending 10535 05:50:01,536 --> 05:50:03,536 Section 18 Dash 3. 24 14 15 10536 05:50:06,106 --> 05:50:07,975 and adding Section 18 dash 3. 10537 05:50:07,975 --> 05:50:09,975 24 16 through 22 and amending 10538 05:50:10,310 --> 05:50:10,979 section 18 Dash 3, 2, 5, a 10539 05:50:10,979 --> 05:50:12,780 through d of the code of 10540 05:50:12,780 --> 05:50:15,717 ordinances of the city of Key 10541 05:50:15,717 --> 05:50:16,217 West Florida to strengthen 10542 05:50:16,217 --> 05:50:18,217 enforcement provisions, 10543 05:50:18,720 --> 05:50:19,787 specifically address nuisance 10544 05:50:19,787 --> 05:50:20,354 behavior, harassment and 10545 05:50:20,354 --> 05:50:21,890 suspected drug and criminal 10546 05:50:21,890 --> 05:50:22,990 related activity. Ensure 10547 05:50:22,990 --> 05:50:24,359 public safety and update city 10548 05:50:24,359 --> 05:50:26,393 code to align with current 10549 05:50:26,393 --> 05:50:27,462 in-house procedures providing 10550 05:50:27,462 --> 05:50:28,730 for severability, providing 10551 05:50:28,730 --> 05:50:29,297 for repeal of in consistent 10552 05:50:29,297 --> 05:50:31,697 provisions providing for an 10553 05:50:33,101 --> 05:50:35,101 effective date. 10554 05:50:35,269 --> 05:50:36,171 >> Earlier commissioner 10555 05:50:36,171 --> 05:50:38,571 Castillo said there wasn't 10556 05:50:38,973 --> 05:50:40,108 something with this item that 10557 05:50:40,108 --> 05:50:40,709 we should be alerted to. Is 10558 05:50:40,709 --> 05:50:43,709 that something that we should 10559 05:50:45,312 --> 05:50:48,830 hear? First, 4? There was some 10560 05:50:48,830 --> 05:50:51,683 issue rules that was in the. 10561 05:50:52,721 --> 05:50:55,721 >> The actual ordinance I gave 10562 05:50:57,992 --> 05:51:00,963 downed one of the one of the 10563 05:51:00,963 --> 05:51:04,563 mobile vendors and the and the 10564 05:51:05,501 --> 05:51:07,203 concerned citizen. Comments 10565 05:51:07,203 --> 05:51:09,738 about what was already in 10566 05:51:09,738 --> 05:51:12,738 here. Some of the language 10567 05:51:13,676 --> 05:51:14,275 should have been changed to 2 10568 05:51:14,275 --> 05:51:16,245 new language. And I spoke to 10569 05:51:16,245 --> 05:51:16,745 city staff and they say it 10570 05:51:16,745 --> 05:51:19,745 won't be a problem. The 10571 05:51:22,785 --> 05:51:23,386 postpone Can we hear from the 10572 05:51:23,386 --> 05:51:26,155 city legal? That's right. The 10573 05:51:26,155 --> 05:51:26,722 commissioner gave us some. 10574 05:51:26,722 --> 05:51:27,323 >> Questions about language 10575 05:51:27,323 --> 05:51:30,126 that we haven't had a chance 10576 05:51:30,126 --> 05:51:32,328 to take a look out. The intent 10577 05:51:32,328 --> 05:51:34,297 was to incorporate the new 10578 05:51:34,297 --> 05:51:36,532 state statutes that allow for 10579 05:51:36,532 --> 05:51:37,200 cement. The commissioners rise 10580 05:51:37,200 --> 05:51:40,800 that right that we picked up 10581 05:51:41,870 --> 05:51:42,705 some staff language reference 10582 05:51:42,705 --> 05:51:45,705 to particular mobile, a vendor 10583 05:51:46,309 --> 05:51:47,509 that we shouldn't have done. 10584 05:51:47,509 --> 05:51:49,445 And so what we would suggest, 10585 05:51:49,445 --> 05:51:51,513 is if you're ok with the 10586 05:51:51,513 --> 05:51:53,650 concept we can make the 10587 05:51:53,650 --> 05:51:54,283 changes and, you know, we can 10588 05:51:54,283 --> 05:51:54,851 do a guy on second re right to 10589 05:51:54,851 --> 05:51:58,451 say that. Yes, but you can 10590 05:51:58,788 --> 05:52:01,788 still have see. That's right, 10591 05:52:02,559 --> 05:52:03,160 ok, we'll we'll look at your 10592 05:52:03,160 --> 05:52:04,761 commissioner. And if we need 10593 05:52:04,761 --> 05:52:06,620 to talk will will let you 10594 05:52:06,620 --> 05:52:06,997 know, but will make whatever 10595 05:52:06,997 --> 05:52:09,566 corrections we think are deals 10596 05:52:09,566 --> 05:52:10,167 will have time between now and 10597 05:52:10,167 --> 05:52:11,670 OCTOBER one, right? But it 10598 05:52:11,670 --> 05:52:11,868 change the intent overall to 10599 05:52:11,868 --> 05:52:15,468 so go ahead and move for 10600 05:52:15,871 --> 05:52:16,673 parole. Second. Okay. I have a 10601 05:52:16,673 --> 05:52:17,240 motion from commissioner 10602 05:52:17,240 --> 05:52:17,841 Castillo and second from 10603 05:52:17,841 --> 05:52:20,241 Commissioner Carey. Is there 10604 05:52:22,712 --> 05:52:24,712 more discussion? 10605 05:52:25,514 --> 05:52:28,150 >> Hearing none of is the most 10606 05:52:28,150 --> 05:52:28,719 dramatic to approve to both 10607 05:52:28,719 --> 05:52:31,119 discussion. MISS The first 10608 05:52:33,556 --> 05:52:34,524 read it. We can't make any 10609 05:52:34,524 --> 05:52:35,159 cook. It will come back to you 10610 05:52:35,159 --> 05:52:37,461 for second reading. If we need 10611 05:52:37,461 --> 05:52:38,461 to make corrections. 10612 05:52:38,461 --> 05:52:42,610 >> We can still do that even 10613 05:52:42,800 --> 05:52:44,535 though it's been advertise 10614 05:52:44,535 --> 05:52:46,703 right? Okay. MADAM Clerk, 10615 05:52:46,703 --> 05:52:47,404 please read call. The Roll 10616 05:52:47,404 --> 05:52:47,905 Commissioner Carey. Yes, 10617 05:52:47,905 --> 05:52:48,471 commissioner Christine. 10618 05:52:48,471 --> 05:52:50,471 Commissioner Haskell. Yes. 10619 05:52:52,710 --> 05:52:53,411 Commissioner. Yes. 10620 05:52:53,411 --> 05:52:53,978 Commissioner mascot. Yes. 10621 05:52:53,978 --> 05:52:55,446 Commissioner Ross Sea. Yes. 10622 05:52:55,446 --> 05:52:57,581 Mayor Coffman. Yes. Motion 10623 05:52:57,581 --> 05:52:59,581 passes. Ordinances. Second 10624 05:53:01,786 --> 05:53:02,720 reading. Item number 51, 10625 05:53:02,720 --> 05:53:03,788 ordinance of the city 10626 05:53:03,788 --> 05:53:05,555 Commission of the City of Key 10627 05:53:05,555 --> 05:53:06,723 West, Florida, amending 10628 05:53:06,723 --> 05:53:07,358 section 58 Dash 6, 6, of the 10629 05:53:07,358 --> 05:53:09,193 code of ordinances of the city 10630 05:53:09,193 --> 05:53:09,761 of Key West Florida. 10631 05:53:09,761 --> 05:53:12,761 >> To amend the solid waste 10632 05:53:13,310 --> 05:53:14,164 dumping fear, tipping c tire 10633 05:53:14,164 --> 05:53:14,766 waste disposal fee and 10634 05:53:14,766 --> 05:53:16,766 recyclable materials tipping 10635 05:53:17,602 --> 05:53:18,403 fee for Key West residents. 10636 05:53:18,403 --> 05:53:20,403 Commercial establishments and 10637 05:53:20,438 --> 05:53:22,140 licensed businesses providing 10638 05:53:22,140 --> 05:53:22,707 for severability, providing 10639 05:53:22,707 --> 05:53:23,274 for repeal of inconsistent 10640 05:53:23,274 --> 05:53:25,674 provisions providing for an 10641 05:53:28,446 --> 05:53:29,747 effective date. Ok? Mayor 10642 05:53:29,747 --> 05:53:30,480 apologized its second reading. 10643 05:53:30,480 --> 05:53:31,150 No changes. 10644 05:53:31,150 --> 05:53:33,551 >> Okay. Is there a motion 10645 05:53:33,551 --> 05:53:34,151 move for approval? 10646 05:53:34,151 --> 05:53:36,551 Commissioner Kaseya makes the 10647 05:53:38,623 --> 05:53:39,658 motion. Is there a second? 10648 05:53:39,658 --> 05:53:40,358 Commissioner mascot makes the 10649 05:53:40,358 --> 05:53:41,860 second. Is there more any 10650 05:53:41,860 --> 05:53:43,860 discussion? Questions front? 10651 05:53:46,832 --> 05:53:48,900 C? I can't Can't wait for 10652 05:53:48,900 --> 05:53:51,900 this. Say couples a car. 10653 05:53:52,971 --> 05:53:53,538 Businesses Mike. 10654 05:53:53,538 --> 05:53:56,538 >> tell you more money for 10655 05:53:56,742 --> 05:53:57,342 second most for business. Some 10656 05:53:57,342 --> 05:53:57,875 of those They're up. A lot of 10657 05:53:57,875 --> 05:53:59,760 money for recyclables are 10658 05:53:59,760 --> 05:54:02,760 ready. We'll be honest with 10659 05:54:03,982 --> 05:54:08,253 you. I you know, I have that I 10660 05:54:08,253 --> 05:54:08,853 recycle hive. 10661 05:54:08,853 --> 05:54:12,391 >> I could say I think isn't 10662 05:54:12,391 --> 05:54:12,957 this the item where? Vice 10663 05:54:12,957 --> 05:54:13,525 Mayor Lee asked that it be 10664 05:54:13,525 --> 05:54:15,925 reduced and that businesses 10665 05:54:18,396 --> 05:54:18,997 want to know. Remember when 10666 05:54:18,997 --> 05:54:20,833 they want to 10%. With that, 10667 05:54:20,833 --> 05:54:24,433 we went down to 5%. That's not 10668 05:54:24,470 --> 05:54:25,360 the summit MR. Mayor. 10669 05:54:25,360 --> 05:54:27,436 >> That is not particularly 10670 05:54:29,475 --> 05:54:30,243 this item. That is the the 10671 05:54:30,243 --> 05:54:31,110 sludge and the that's what 10672 05:54:31,110 --> 05:54:34,110 you'll be seeing. Those that's 10673 05:54:34,680 --> 05:54:38,280 not this particular this. I if 10674 05:54:39,185 --> 05:54:39,785 you allow me, see, this is a I 10675 05:54:39,785 --> 05:54:40,286 don't know if the correlation 10676 05:54:40,286 --> 05:54:41,921 and Matt, you're here, 10677 05:54:41,921 --> 05:54:44,921 correct. Can you stretch those 10678 05:54:46,325 --> 05:54:48,725 lakes? I don't necessarily 10679 05:54:48,828 --> 05:54:49,462 believe the correlation is 10680 05:54:49,462 --> 05:54:50,496 recycling for business inches. 10681 05:54:50,496 --> 05:54:54,960 But give me a moment. I 10682 05:54:54,534 --> 05:54:56,200 thought this was single. 10683 05:54:56,200 --> 05:54:56,569 Recycle, but go ahead and have 10684 05:54:56,569 --> 05:54:57,169 half right. Right meant is 10685 05:54:57,169 --> 05:54:58,337 that we're going to tell you 10686 05:54:58,337 --> 05:55:00,340 our have correct mission for 10687 05:55:00,340 --> 05:55:00,840 us. 10688 05:55:00,840 --> 05:55:02,840 >> Good evening. Mayor 10689 05:55:04,110 --> 05:55:04,676 commissioners. I'm going to 10690 05:55:04,676 --> 05:55:07,676 kind regroup just a little 10691 05:55:10,150 --> 05:55:11,818 bit. This feat is for the 10692 05:55:11,818 --> 05:55:13,286 tipping the out at the 10693 05:55:13,286 --> 05:55:13,887 transfer station, which Waste 10694 05:55:13,887 --> 05:55:16,287 Management also operates off 10695 05:55:17,924 --> 05:55:19,493 of that. In years past. We 10696 05:55:19,493 --> 05:55:22,493 just raise that typically by 10697 05:55:24,970 --> 05:55:24,932 cbi as a hold Throughout the 10698 05:55:24,932 --> 05:55:25,632 last couple years. The 10699 05:55:25,632 --> 05:55:28,320 different items have varied 10700 05:55:29,503 --> 05:55:31,471 with the market. And, you 10701 05:55:31,471 --> 05:55:32,720 know, we're trying to be 10702 05:55:32,720 --> 05:55:33,540 cognizant of not raising any 10703 05:55:33,540 --> 05:55:35,940 more than necessary, will 10704 05:55:36,510 --> 05:55:37,211 still capturing all the 10705 05:55:37,211 --> 05:55:37,877 revenue that we need to and 10706 05:55:37,877 --> 05:55:38,378 being very transparent. All 10707 05:55:38,378 --> 05:55:40,778 the different types of 10708 05:55:42,883 --> 05:55:43,483 streams. Being recycling with 10709 05:55:43,483 --> 05:55:46,483 the recent contract for hall 10710 05:55:47,321 --> 05:55:49,523 out. We paid for recycling now 10711 05:55:49,523 --> 05:55:53,723 where we had not before. So in 10712 05:55:54,528 --> 05:55:55,730 the the cover memo. There's a 10713 05:55:55,730 --> 05:55:56,563 breakdown of the percentage 10714 05:55:56,563 --> 05:55:58,963 increase for each recycling 10715 05:55:59,500 --> 05:56:01,569 reach a waste stream. 10716 05:56:01,569 --> 05:56:03,203 Recycling. Yes, is a much 10717 05:56:03,203 --> 05:56:03,738 larger cost because it was 10718 05:56:03,738 --> 05:56:06,738 free before it's not free 10719 05:56:09,776 --> 05:56:10,378 anymore. Tires is also 10720 05:56:10,378 --> 05:56:11,979 increase. And that's just to 10721 05:56:11,979 --> 05:56:12,580 pass through costs. We only 10722 05:56:12,580 --> 05:56:16,180 collect enough to pay for the 10723 05:56:17,785 --> 05:56:19,187 disposal of those yard waste 10724 05:56:19,187 --> 05:56:21,187 0% appliance metals and 10725 05:56:23,123 --> 05:56:25,523 tipping is 0. The regular 10726 05:56:26,760 --> 05:56:27,829 trash. Solid waste is a 5% 10727 05:56:27,829 --> 05:56:29,163 increase which match the 10728 05:56:29,163 --> 05:56:29,697 earlier resolution from a 10729 05:56:29,697 --> 05:56:30,764 couple of months. That's 10730 05:56:30,764 --> 05:56:32,533 that's what I was rep. That's 10731 05:56:32,533 --> 05:56:33,401 what I was remembering is the 10732 05:56:33,401 --> 05:56:33,968 5%. 10733 05:56:33,968 --> 05:56:36,137 >> And that's for the help. 10734 05:56:36,137 --> 05:56:36,771 That's for house. The 10735 05:56:36,771 --> 05:56:39,171 household items, correct? Case 10736 05:56:43,578 --> 05:56:45,313 rates. Okay. Commercial, the 10737 05:56:45,313 --> 05:56:46,280 debate, the big commissioner 10738 05:56:46,280 --> 05:56:47,915 Ross. He's point the big issue 10739 05:56:47,915 --> 05:56:49,915 really is the 37%. 10740 05:56:52,870 --> 05:56:52,587 >> But that's for the private. 10741 05:56:52,587 --> 05:56:53,121 Wright is an effort for 10742 05:56:53,121 --> 05:56:55,521 bringing this. That's for 10743 05:56:57,292 --> 05:56:57,859 that. Private person bringing 10744 05:56:57,859 --> 05:57:00,859 the recyclables to that the 10745 05:57:01,897 --> 05:57:02,664 transfer station. Yes. 10746 05:57:02,664 --> 05:57:05,600 >> As well as waste management 10747 05:57:05,600 --> 05:57:08,000 sets their commercial rates 10748 05:57:08,503 --> 05:57:11,503 based on this fee structure. 10749 05:57:11,506 --> 05:57:14,543 So, yes, you'll be charged. By 10750 05:57:14,543 --> 05:57:16,678 waste management for your 10751 05:57:16,678 --> 05:57:17,713 commercial account based on on 10752 05:57:17,713 --> 05:57:18,313 these and these are only set 10753 05:57:18,313 --> 05:57:21,500 to capture enough to pay the 10754 05:57:21,500 --> 05:57:22,785 haul out. From Rockland up to 10755 05:57:22,785 --> 05:57:24,785 the mainland. 10756 05:57:28,624 --> 05:57:29,224 >> He's already paid now. Yes, 10757 05:57:29,224 --> 05:57:30,226 as a business man. Yes, yes, 10758 05:57:30,226 --> 05:57:31,861 you you paid waste management 10759 05:57:31,861 --> 05:57:34,430 for a collection right now. 10760 05:57:34,430 --> 05:57:37,430 You're going to pay for 10761 05:57:38,568 --> 05:57:39,201 collection and processing. Was 10762 05:57:39,201 --> 05:57:41,436 no processing fee before there 10763 05:57:41,436 --> 05:57:44,436 is now processing or disposal. 10764 05:57:46,309 --> 05:57:48,309 Sometimes 10765 05:57:51,981 --> 05:57:53,416 >> Is there more discussion? 10766 05:57:53,416 --> 05:57:54,450 We already and we get we have 10767 05:57:54,450 --> 05:57:56,753 a motion. No more discussion. 10768 05:57:56,753 --> 05:57:58,720 Please call the Roll. 10769 05:57:58,720 --> 05:57:59,756 Commissioner Carey. Yes. 10770 05:57:59,756 --> 05:58:00,323 Commissioner Castillo, 10771 05:58:00,323 --> 05:58:02,323 commissioner Haskell. Yes, 10772 05:58:02,492 --> 05:58:03,260 commissioner Lee. Yes. 10773 05:58:03,260 --> 05:58:05,260 Commissioner mascot. Yes. 10774 05:58:05,595 --> 05:58:07,995 Commissioner Ross Sea Merrick 10775 05:58:08,298 --> 05:58:09,366 Yes, motion passes. Item 10776 05:58:09,366 --> 05:58:10,567 number. 52, an ordinance of 10777 05:58:10,567 --> 05:58:12,135 the city Commission of the 10778 05:58:12,135 --> 05:58:12,801 City of Key West, Florida, 10779 05:58:12,801 --> 05:58:13,570 amending the code of 10780 05:58:13,570 --> 05:58:15,570 ordinances. Chapter 2 article 10781 05:58:16,406 --> 05:58:17,400 3 Division, 12 Entitle Parks. 10782 05:58:17,400 --> 05:58:19,400 >> And Recreation Board. 10783 05:58:19,576 --> 05:58:21,111 Repealing ordinance number. 22 10784 05:58:21,111 --> 05:58:22,912 dash. 21 and abolishing the qs 10785 05:58:22,912 --> 05:58:25,312 Parks and Recreation Advisory 10786 05:58:25,582 --> 05:58:27,684 Board renaming Division 12 as 10787 05:58:27,684 --> 05:58:29,719 public input on parks and 10788 05:58:29,719 --> 05:58:31,719 Recreation Matters. Amending 10789 05:58:31,721 --> 05:58:32,222 section 2, Dash 6, 1, 0, to 10790 05:58:32,222 --> 05:58:33,690 Reserve Center section 10791 05:58:33,690 --> 05:58:35,325 amending section 2, Dash 6, 1, 10792 05:58:35,325 --> 05:58:36,193 1, to establish an informal 10793 05:58:36,193 --> 05:58:38,280 process for public input on 10794 05:58:38,280 --> 05:58:40,428 parks and recreation matters 10795 05:58:40,497 --> 05:58:42,332 to be hosted by the Parks and 10796 05:58:42,332 --> 05:58:43,534 Recreation Department. 10797 05:58:43,534 --> 05:58:44,167 Amending section 2, Dash 6, 1, 10798 05:58:44,167 --> 05:58:46,803 2, to revise the duties of the 10799 05:58:46,803 --> 05:58:47,437 community services director in 10800 05:58:47,437 --> 05:58:49,437 connection therewith reserving 10801 05:58:50,741 --> 05:58:52,276 sections. 2 Dash 6, 1, 3, 2, 10802 05:58:52,276 --> 05:58:54,276 Dash, 6, 1, 5, providing for 10803 05:58:55,346 --> 05:58:55,879 repeal of inconsistent 10804 05:58:55,879 --> 05:58:56,447 provisions providing for 10805 05:58:56,447 --> 05:58:57,800 severability, providing for 10806 05:58:57,800 --> 05:58:59,480 codification, providing for an 10807 05:59:01,852 --> 05:59:02,853 effective date. Yes, MRS. 10808 05:59:02,853 --> 05:59:04,155 >> MISTER Mayor, this is 10809 05:59:04,155 --> 05:59:04,889 second reading with changes 10810 05:59:04,889 --> 05:59:07,289 and I believe Kendall 10811 05:59:09,727 --> 05:59:11,395 delineate the changes. 10812 05:59:11,395 --> 05:59:12,290 >> Yes, MR. Mayor 10813 05:59:12,290 --> 05:59:14,290 commissioners commissioner has 10814 05:59:15,333 --> 05:59:18,333 school asked to. And provision 10815 05:59:21,772 --> 05:59:23,874 under. Excuse me. Section 2, 10816 05:59:23,874 --> 05:59:25,877 Dash 6, 1, 1, It would be an 10817 05:59:25,877 --> 05:59:27,979 added sense to after the first 10818 05:59:27,979 --> 05:59:29,470 sentence are the only sentence 10819 05:59:29,470 --> 05:59:30,715 and that current paragraph it 10820 05:59:30,715 --> 05:59:32,116 just it would read this 10821 05:59:32,116 --> 05:59:33,318 process show include comment 10822 05:59:33,318 --> 05:59:33,885 at a minimum, comma, a public 10823 05:59:33,885 --> 05:59:36,200 meeting held on a quarterly 10824 05:59:36,200 --> 05:59:37,121 basis. So ultimately you 10825 05:59:37,121 --> 05:59:38,922 didn't originally provide for 10826 05:59:38,922 --> 05:59:41,922 any specific. It time frame 10827 05:59:42,260 --> 05:59:42,827 for workshops to be held. 10828 05:59:42,827 --> 05:59:44,827 Commissioner Haskell asset, 10829 05:59:49,133 --> 05:59:50,435 some type of minimum be sent. 10830 05:59:50,435 --> 05:59:52,203 >> Other than that, no change. 10831 05:59:52,203 --> 05:59:55,741 Okay. So I I just want to ask 10832 05:59:55,741 --> 05:59:56,808 if there if there would be 10833 05:59:56,808 --> 05:59:58,760 court for postponement, I 10834 05:59:58,760 --> 06:00:00,120 would like to know that 10835 06:00:00,120 --> 06:00:02,130 because I and my that's my 10836 06:00:02,130 --> 06:00:05,130 position that the full new 10837 06:00:06,185 --> 06:00:08,453 commission vote on this. And 10838 06:00:08,453 --> 06:00:08,987 my my thought is that if next 10839 06:00:08,987 --> 06:00:11,560 commission want to have a 10840 06:00:11,560 --> 06:00:11,657 parks and recreation board, it 10841 06:00:11,657 --> 06:00:14,893 would create a lot more work 10842 06:00:14,893 --> 06:00:17,796 for. The legal department to 10843 06:00:17,796 --> 06:00:20,332 create another one. So I would 10844 06:00:20,332 --> 06:00:21,133 ask if there's support for 10845 06:00:21,133 --> 06:00:24,133 that. Great. That's not all 10846 06:00:25,571 --> 06:00:27,773 except will of the commission 10847 06:00:27,773 --> 06:00:29,410 commissioner have school. What 10848 06:00:29,410 --> 06:00:31,143 do you lead on this? So in 10849 06:00:31,143 --> 06:00:33,143 your district? 10850 06:00:35,800 --> 06:00:35,648 >> I would like I was thinking 10851 06:00:35,648 --> 06:00:36,382 about making a motion and I 10852 06:00:36,382 --> 06:00:39,982 will make a motion to postpone 10853 06:00:42,288 --> 06:00:43,222 this indefinitely. And it. I 10854 06:00:43,222 --> 06:00:46,192 did vote for the first time 10855 06:00:46,192 --> 06:00:46,826 around. So I am I am changing 10856 06:00:46,826 --> 06:00:48,930 my mind on this. And I did ask 10857 06:00:48,930 --> 06:00:51,930 for that addition in the 10858 06:00:52,264 --> 06:00:54,664 ordinance. But that's that's 10859 06:00:55,601 --> 06:00:56,201 not enough. We've heard a lot 10860 06:00:56,201 --> 06:00:56,936 today. A lot of conversation 10861 06:00:56,936 --> 06:00:59,936 about value and the importance 10862 06:01:02,909 --> 06:01:03,676 of continuity. We are in 10863 06:01:03,676 --> 06:01:05,244 period of change were changing 10864 06:01:05,244 --> 06:01:06,212 commissioners. We have a new 10865 06:01:06,212 --> 06:01:07,147 dynamic today when NOVEMBER 10866 06:01:07,147 --> 06:01:09,547 rolls around. We'll have 10867 06:01:10,282 --> 06:01:13,282 another new dynamic. So I 10868 06:01:15,221 --> 06:01:17,621 think dissolving aboard just 10869 06:01:17,691 --> 06:01:18,291 for dissolving a board does 10870 06:01:18,291 --> 06:01:20,226 not really benefit the 10871 06:01:20,226 --> 06:01:20,760 community. I would like to see 10872 06:01:20,760 --> 06:01:21,394 the park's and rec board 10873 06:01:21,394 --> 06:01:23,863 continue to meet. I would like 10874 06:01:23,863 --> 06:01:25,699 to see them add public 10875 06:01:25,699 --> 06:01:27,734 workshops. It doesn't have to 10876 06:01:27,734 --> 06:01:30,637 be an either or situation that 10877 06:01:30,637 --> 06:01:32,539 public workshops that we have 10878 06:01:32,539 --> 06:01:34,308 had have been very fruitful. I 10879 06:01:34,308 --> 06:01:34,908 think very productive. There 10880 06:01:34,908 --> 06:01:38,508 was one on hate speech after 10881 06:01:38,579 --> 06:01:40,447 secure the property and there 10882 06:01:40,447 --> 06:01:41,140 was good participation even 10883 06:01:41,140 --> 06:01:44,614 though it you know, time of 10884 06:01:45,419 --> 06:01:46,587 day for the public. With the 10885 06:01:46,587 --> 06:01:48,389 there was a lot of people 10886 06:01:48,389 --> 06:01:49,230 representing people who swam 10887 06:01:49,230 --> 06:01:51,291 people who go to the dog park, 10888 06:01:51,291 --> 06:01:53,691 people who play pickleball 10889 06:01:55,996 --> 06:01:56,630 like Esther City. So and the 10890 06:01:56,630 --> 06:01:57,498 staff listened. And, you know, 10891 06:01:57,498 --> 06:01:59,330 they said, yes, we'll we'll do 10892 06:01:59,330 --> 06:02:00,901 this. That's a good idea. Yes, 10893 06:02:00,901 --> 06:02:04,501 will put the doggie bags back 10894 06:02:07,608 --> 06:02:10,578 in the park. That's been done. 10895 06:02:10,578 --> 06:02:11,812 So I would say for now I make 10896 06:02:11,812 --> 06:02:12,380 a motion to postpone saying it 10897 06:02:12,380 --> 06:02:14,780 definitely. Thank you very 10898 06:02:15,516 --> 06:02:16,820 much. Okay. 10899 06:02:16,820 --> 06:02:18,252 >> On them on the motion to 10900 06:02:18,252 --> 06:02:20,454 postpone. Is there discussion? 10901 06:02:20,454 --> 06:02:21,210 Commissioner Carey and then 10902 06:02:21,210 --> 06:02:23,210 commissioner mascot. Thank 10903 06:02:24,358 --> 06:02:24,859 you, MR. Mayor. Didn't the 10904 06:02:24,859 --> 06:02:27,259 board vote to dissolve 10905 06:02:28,129 --> 06:02:30,529 themselves? They decided not 10906 06:02:31,332 --> 06:02:33,300 to continue right? 10907 06:02:33,300 --> 06:02:34,235 >> MISTER Mayor Commissioner 10908 06:02:34,235 --> 06:02:34,836 Carey. Yes, this originated 10909 06:02:34,836 --> 06:02:38,436 from the Parks and rec board 10910 06:02:40,141 --> 06:02:41,410 itself. So I think there's a 10911 06:02:41,410 --> 06:02:41,676 backstory more of a back story 10912 06:02:41,676 --> 06:02:44,346 on that. I don't think we have 10913 06:02:44,346 --> 06:02:45,579 to get into that right now. 10914 06:02:45,579 --> 06:02:48,579 >> right now the question is 10915 06:02:50,180 --> 06:02:52,253 postponement. And the question 10916 06:02:52,253 --> 06:02:52,753 is whether or not the full 10917 06:02:52,753 --> 06:02:53,321 next to me, whether the 10918 06:02:53,321 --> 06:02:54,489 commission should have the 10919 06:02:54,489 --> 06:02:56,489 opportunity instead of 10920 06:02:57,259 --> 06:02:59,161 recreating the board. Why not 10921 06:02:59,161 --> 06:03:00,950 postpone this for Woods just 2 10922 06:03:00,950 --> 06:03:03,950 months or 3 because they will 10923 06:03:03,598 --> 06:03:04,933 have a full new board. But 10924 06:03:04,933 --> 06:03:05,533 because if you if we say if we 10925 06:03:05,533 --> 06:03:08,533 say in definitely the problem 10926 06:03:09,938 --> 06:03:11,707 with that is, if there's a 10927 06:03:11,707 --> 06:03:13,207 board in our ordinances, they 10928 06:03:13,207 --> 06:03:13,841 have to meet right thing they 10929 06:03:13,841 --> 06:03:14,409 haven't yet. They have to make 10930 06:03:14,409 --> 06:03:15,430 it. And you know, they can 10931 06:03:15,430 --> 06:03:18,643 come up with ideas for the 10932 06:03:20,649 --> 06:03:22,484 workshops insist more staff 10933 06:03:22,484 --> 06:03:24,485 support. I I think, you it's 10934 06:03:24,485 --> 06:03:25,200 been kind of ineffective the 10935 06:03:25,200 --> 06:03:28,200 last couple of years. But 10936 06:03:28,157 --> 06:03:28,791 prior to that. 10937 06:03:28,791 --> 06:03:29,859 >> There were many good things 10938 06:03:29,859 --> 06:03:32,428 that came out of the Parks and 10939 06:03:32,428 --> 06:03:34,563 Recreation board. The concept 10940 06:03:34,563 --> 06:03:35,163 actually scheduling the sports 10941 06:03:35,163 --> 06:03:38,601 fields came out of the Parks 10942 06:03:38,601 --> 06:03:40,336 and Recreation board. There 10943 06:03:40,336 --> 06:03:40,836 was up much fruitful 10944 06:03:40,836 --> 06:03:42,836 conversation about that 10945 06:03:43,705 --> 06:03:46,409 transfer of hate speech years 10946 06:03:46,409 --> 06:03:50,900 ago. This was in like 2000 to 10947 06:03:51,681 --> 06:03:54,417 I mean, 2022 2024, that it was 10948 06:03:54,417 --> 06:03:56,285 dropped from their agenda. So 10949 06:03:56,285 --> 06:03:56,885 when it finally came to us, 10950 06:03:56,885 --> 06:03:59,885 you know, the final transfer. 10951 06:04:01,591 --> 06:04:02,224 It had not gone to the court. 10952 06:04:02,224 --> 06:04:05,628 So I I think that there's been 10953 06:04:05,628 --> 06:04:06,596 a lot of new members when 10954 06:04:06,596 --> 06:04:08,198 you're You kind of waited for 10955 06:04:08,198 --> 06:04:08,764 a couple months to see, you 10956 06:04:08,764 --> 06:04:12,364 know what to do. Don't know 10957 06:04:13,503 --> 06:04:14,237 what to do. You know, I it has 10958 06:04:14,237 --> 06:04:17,237 not been effective. I would 10959 06:04:18,775 --> 06:04:20,677 like to see it get more robust 10960 06:04:20,677 --> 06:04:22,746 staff support to be more 10961 06:04:22,746 --> 06:04:24,781 effective of the community 10962 06:04:24,781 --> 06:04:25,615 services department is I think 10963 06:04:25,615 --> 06:04:26,282 the second largest budget in 10964 06:04:26,282 --> 06:04:29,882 the city next to the police 10965 06:04:30,220 --> 06:04:33,220 department and my right the 10966 06:04:34,291 --> 06:04:35,258 end that they deserve to have 10967 06:04:35,258 --> 06:04:37,160 some support from the 10968 06:04:37,160 --> 06:04:38,428 community in terms in terms of 10969 06:04:38,428 --> 06:04:39,290 the board where they can 10970 06:04:39,290 --> 06:04:41,431 bounce around ideas and get 10971 06:04:41,431 --> 06:04:43,431 some direction. 10972 06:04:44,330 --> 06:04:44,901 >> Ok, so we have a motion to 10973 06:04:44,901 --> 06:04:45,435 postpone and I agree with 10974 06:04:45,435 --> 06:04:47,835 everything you just said. 10975 06:04:48,839 --> 06:04:49,273 Commissioner Haskell, did you 10976 06:04:49,273 --> 06:04:51,673 what will you next 10977 06:04:51,942 --> 06:04:52,543 commissioner wants? 10978 06:04:52,543 --> 06:04:53,143 >> Well, I just wanted to say 10979 06:04:53,143 --> 06:04:56,313 that, you know, I was told by 10980 06:04:56,313 --> 06:04:56,880 the city manager that. Part of 10981 06:04:56,880 --> 06:04:58,983 the problem, the park's and 10982 06:04:58,983 --> 06:04:59,983 rec board was that maintaining 10983 06:04:59,983 --> 06:05:03,387 a quorum and that, you know, 10984 06:05:03,387 --> 06:05:05,787 hard. Getting people to 10985 06:05:06,557 --> 06:05:07,424 volunteer for something. You 10986 06:05:07,424 --> 06:05:10,193 know, we have to give the 10987 06:05:10,193 --> 06:05:11,280 board real direction and a 10988 06:05:11,280 --> 06:05:11,629 real, you know, use and like 10989 06:05:11,629 --> 06:05:14,629 the scheduling of the fields 10990 06:05:16,100 --> 06:05:17,902 is something that but the 10991 06:05:17,902 --> 06:05:18,870 design of the King's speech 10992 06:05:18,870 --> 06:05:20,571 Bayview Park. We have to give 10993 06:05:20,571 --> 06:05:21,205 them real direction and, you 10994 06:05:21,205 --> 06:05:23,107 know, a real reason to show up 10995 06:05:23,107 --> 06:05:25,909 for these boards. So, you 10996 06:05:25,909 --> 06:05:27,345 know, I support postponement. 10997 06:05:27,345 --> 06:05:30,915 I was very hesitant to want 10998 06:05:30,915 --> 06:05:33,315 abolish the parks and 10999 06:05:33,884 --> 06:05:34,485 recreation when we do figure 11000 06:05:34,485 --> 06:05:37,789 out what to do that we really 11001 06:05:37,789 --> 06:05:41,259 do need to give it a real, you 11002 06:05:41,259 --> 06:05:41,825 know, 11003 06:05:41,825 --> 06:05:43,825 >> Commissioner mascot, you 11004 06:05:44,529 --> 06:05:45,397 probably have strongest 11005 06:05:45,397 --> 06:05:47,797 interest in maintaining this 11006 06:05:48,533 --> 06:05:49,366 And the reason is is because 11007 06:05:49,366 --> 06:05:52,569 if it goes away, guess who's 11008 06:05:52,569 --> 06:05:53,337 convening all the workshops 11009 06:05:53,337 --> 06:05:53,939 for beach just instead of 11010 06:05:53,939 --> 06:05:54,506 having a parks and rec board 11011 06:05:54,506 --> 06:05:57,506 where they would should be 11012 06:05:57,976 --> 06:05:59,143 doing it. So in any case. 11013 06:05:59,143 --> 06:06:01,379 We're here, postponement only 11014 06:06:01,379 --> 06:06:01,646 commission of Vice Mayor want 11015 06:06:01,646 --> 06:06:02,447 to speak. 11016 06:06:02,447 --> 06:06:03,548 >> I was just going to say for 11017 06:06:03,548 --> 06:06:05,449 whatever it's worth, I can 11018 06:06:05,449 --> 06:06:06,285 support them. Postponement 11019 06:06:06,285 --> 06:06:08,685 Hill, DECEMBER JANUARY, but 11020 06:06:10,188 --> 06:06:10,756 not indefinitely. 11021 06:06:10,756 --> 06:06:12,858 >> commissioner care have a 11022 06:06:12,858 --> 06:06:15,260 legal question. So if we 11023 06:06:15,260 --> 06:06:17,796 they're required to meet. But 11024 06:06:17,796 --> 06:06:20,796 they don't want to meet. 11025 06:06:22,701 --> 06:06:24,701 What's happening. You're 11026 06:06:25,570 --> 06:06:26,104 saying legally, if we have a 11027 06:06:26,104 --> 06:06:26,772 board there are he is in 11028 06:06:26,772 --> 06:06:28,908 effect for doesn't one lesson 11029 06:06:28,908 --> 06:06:29,475 until you change the ordinance 11030 06:06:29,475 --> 06:06:30,750 requirement that they need, 11031 06:06:30,750 --> 06:06:31,409 they're going to have to try 11032 06:06:31,409 --> 06:06:33,809 to meet with they. 11033 06:06:34,146 --> 06:06:34,680 >> Said to you is they can't 11034 06:06:34,680 --> 06:06:36,680 get enough participation 11035 06:06:40,419 --> 06:06:43,419 direction. Quorum and they use 11036 06:06:43,556 --> 06:06:45,824 staff time and all that. So so 11037 06:06:45,824 --> 06:06:46,359 the clerk with wonder you to 11038 06:06:46,359 --> 06:06:47,960 the if you're going to 11039 06:06:47,960 --> 06:06:48,861 postpone says we have 11040 06:06:48,861 --> 06:06:51,261 advertising issue, if you 11041 06:06:52,632 --> 06:06:53,566 could live with DECEMBER the 11042 06:06:53,566 --> 06:06:56,566 DECEMBER meeting MAY be asking 11043 06:06:58,271 --> 06:07:00,273 staff to propose. All 11044 06:07:00,273 --> 06:07:01,206 alternative way to accomplish 11045 06:07:01,206 --> 06:07:04,806 this so that you're not going 11046 06:07:05,311 --> 06:07:07,813 on indefinitely. And then we 11047 06:07:07,813 --> 06:07:08,381 we tell the board that they 11048 06:07:08,381 --> 06:07:10,783 have to continue doing what 11049 06:07:10,783 --> 06:07:11,684 they're doing. But it's 11050 06:07:11,684 --> 06:07:12,284 probably not going to be very 11051 06:07:12,284 --> 06:07:14,387 effective because that's why 11052 06:07:14,387 --> 06:07:16,787 they brought this up 11053 06:07:18,525 --> 06:07:19,159 themselves. Yes, and 11054 06:07:19,159 --> 06:07:21,461 >> What I think we should task 11055 06:07:21,461 --> 06:07:22,162 them with looking at speech. 11056 06:07:22,162 --> 06:07:22,796 But that's not on the agenda 11057 06:07:22,796 --> 06:07:24,970 today. So let's but let's keep 11058 06:07:24,970 --> 06:07:26,497 that in mind. Commissioner 11059 06:07:27,667 --> 06:07:30,337 mascot. Ok? So we have a 11060 06:07:30,337 --> 06:07:30,903 motion to postpone. Can we say 11061 06:07:30,903 --> 06:07:34,503 till DECEMBER if if the who 11062 06:07:36,409 --> 06:07:37,311 made mayor resettled JANUARY, 11063 06:07:37,311 --> 06:07:38,611 ok, just to give it another 11064 06:07:38,611 --> 06:07:39,211 month. And, you know, a new 11065 06:07:39,211 --> 06:07:39,813 commission they would giving 11066 06:07:39,813 --> 06:07:41,114 the staff time to figure out 11067 06:07:41,114 --> 06:07:42,315 how we're going to constant. 11068 06:07:42,315 --> 06:07:45,915 >> To deal with get okay. Who 11069 06:07:47,955 --> 06:07:48,555 made the motion me? You okay. 11070 06:07:48,555 --> 06:07:49,890 Uk with okay. So it's a it's 11071 06:07:49,890 --> 06:07:51,258 motion to postpone until 11072 06:07:51,258 --> 06:07:54,858 JANUARY. Can we call okay to 11073 06:07:56,263 --> 06:07:56,764 call the roll? Police called. 11074 06:07:56,764 --> 06:07:58,232 >> Commissioner Carey, 11075 06:07:58,232 --> 06:07:59,330 Commissioner Castillo 11076 06:07:59,330 --> 06:07:59,532 commissioner Haskell. Yes, 11077 06:07:59,532 --> 06:08:00,670 commissioner Lee. Yes. 11078 06:08:00,670 --> 06:08:02,670 Commissioner mascot. Yes. 11079 06:08:02,836 --> 06:08:04,705 Commissioner Ross Sea Mayor 11080 06:08:04,705 --> 06:08:06,705 Coffman's. Motion. Citizen 11081 06:08:07,807 --> 06:08:10,207 comments. We have. Madeline 11082 06:08:20,487 --> 06:08:21,422 bomb signed up. Hello again. I 11083 06:08:21,422 --> 06:08:24,491 am Pastor Metal inbound of Qs, 11084 06:08:24,491 --> 06:08:25,726 United Methodist Church. And I 11085 06:08:25,726 --> 06:08:28,262 come before you this evening 11086 06:08:28,262 --> 06:08:28,763 representing the key West and 11087 06:08:28,763 --> 06:08:30,763 lower Keys, interfaith 11088 06:08:31,833 --> 06:08:32,400 ministerial Alliance. Some of 11089 06:08:32,400 --> 06:08:35,400 my colleagues are also here 11090 06:08:35,870 --> 06:08:38,706 with me this evening. The I am 11091 06:08:38,706 --> 06:08:41,706 has submitted to to this 11092 06:08:42,609 --> 06:08:43,644 commission, a statement. And 11093 06:08:43,644 --> 06:08:44,713 various media outlets have 11094 06:08:44,713 --> 06:08:47,113 also received that statement 11095 06:08:47,415 --> 06:08:47,982 regarding the crisis we face 11096 06:08:47,982 --> 06:08:50,382 in our immigrant community 11097 06:08:50,719 --> 06:08:52,520 here in Key West. I realize 11098 06:08:52,520 --> 06:08:52,853 that this has been a long and 11099 06:08:52,853 --> 06:08:55,253 somewhat emotional day filled 11100 06:08:56,724 --> 06:08:57,559 with important work for this 11101 06:08:57,559 --> 06:08:58,193 city and that the subject to 11102 06:08:58,193 --> 06:09:01,763 bring before you is not on the 11103 06:09:01,763 --> 06:09:03,598 agenda. However, I'm not sure 11104 06:09:03,598 --> 06:09:04,232 what can be more important 11105 06:09:04,232 --> 06:09:07,232 than the safety and well-being 11106 06:09:08,270 --> 06:09:09,938 of our neighbors. In the last 11107 06:09:09,938 --> 06:09:10,539 month. Dozens and dozens of 11108 06:09:10,539 --> 06:09:11,106 immigrants have been detained 11109 06:09:11,106 --> 06:09:13,506 by immigration off the 11110 06:09:14,575 --> 06:09:16,975 searchers. With the assistance 11111 06:09:18,547 --> 06:09:19,281 of kw pd. Almost all were 11112 06:09:19,281 --> 06:09:22,281 taken while working working or 11113 06:09:22,684 --> 06:09:26,284 driving to work. One was taken 11114 06:09:26,722 --> 06:09:27,990 as they left church. Most of 11115 06:09:27,990 --> 06:09:28,957 them had work authorization 11116 06:09:28,957 --> 06:09:30,126 and we're following the legal 11117 06:09:30,126 --> 06:09:33,726 process to be in this country 11118 06:09:34,290 --> 06:09:35,964 and it did not protect them. 11119 06:09:35,964 --> 06:09:36,899 In JULY of 2025. The Commish 11120 06:09:36,899 --> 06:09:39,899 this Commission voted twice on 11121 06:09:40,970 --> 06:09:42,905 this question. Once to 11122 06:09:42,905 --> 06:09:44,807 authorize the deputy is ties. 11123 06:09:44,807 --> 06:09:46,909 Ation of our police officers 11124 06:09:46,909 --> 06:09:48,878 as immigration agents under 11125 06:09:48,878 --> 06:09:50,246 2.87 g agreement and then to 11126 06:09:50,246 --> 06:09:50,880 decline to all to join other 11127 06:09:50,880 --> 06:09:51,781 Florida cities and challenging 11128 06:09:51,781 --> 06:09:55,381 the state's demand that it do 11129 06:09:57,320 --> 06:09:58,321 so. We do not fall. The local 11130 06:09:58,321 --> 06:09:59,755 police officers who serve us, 11131 06:09:59,755 --> 06:10:01,924 they are carrying out a 11132 06:10:01,924 --> 06:10:03,760 policy. This commission 11133 06:10:03,760 --> 06:10:04,993 adopted and we continue to 11134 06:10:04,993 --> 06:10:07,430 rely on them for the safety of 11135 06:10:07,430 --> 06:10:08,398 our congregations. Enter 11136 06:10:08,398 --> 06:10:10,798 streets. However, many members 11137 06:10:11,568 --> 06:10:12,402 of our immigrant community are 11138 06:10:12,402 --> 06:10:14,802 experiencing very real fear 11139 06:10:15,238 --> 06:10:15,805 and uncertainty right now. 11140 06:10:15,805 --> 06:10:19,174 People are afraid to go to 11141 06:10:19,174 --> 06:10:20,310 work or school. Many are 11142 06:10:20,310 --> 06:10:20,943 struggling financially. 11143 06:10:20,943 --> 06:10:23,380 Businesses in Key West are 11144 06:10:23,380 --> 06:10:24,914 beginning to experience 11145 06:10:24,914 --> 06:10:27,314 staffing shortages and Haitian 11146 06:10:28,118 --> 06:10:28,618 church in our community has 11147 06:10:28,618 --> 06:10:30,618 now suspended in-person 11148 06:10:32,454 --> 06:10:33,757 worship services. With the 11149 06:10:33,757 --> 06:10:34,724 ending of Haitian temporary 11150 06:10:34,724 --> 06:10:37,724 protected status on JULY 27th 11151 06:10:38,528 --> 06:10:39,195 of this year are Haitian 11152 06:10:39,195 --> 06:10:39,796 neighbors are facing 11153 06:10:39,796 --> 06:10:42,796 deportation back to an unsafe 11154 06:10:42,866 --> 06:10:45,866 country. Where is the humanity 11155 06:10:46,803 --> 06:10:47,271 in any of this treatment as 11156 06:10:47,271 --> 06:10:48,872 people of faith, this 11157 06:10:48,872 --> 06:10:49,907 treatment of our immigrant 11158 06:10:49,907 --> 06:10:50,440 neighbors is antithetical to 11159 06:10:50,440 --> 06:10:52,840 everything we believe and 11160 06:10:54,711 --> 06:10:56,747 teach. The I am a calls for 11161 06:10:56,747 --> 06:10:59,416 this commission to take steps 11162 06:10:59,416 --> 06:11:01,318 to cancel the 2.87 g Agreement 11163 06:11:01,318 --> 06:11:02,586 that essentially allows our 11164 06:11:02,586 --> 06:11:05,586 local police to be deputized 11165 06:11:06,156 --> 06:11:07,290 as ice agents. We know that 11166 06:11:07,290 --> 06:11:08,125 this commission initially 11167 06:11:08,125 --> 06:11:11,125 voted in JUNE of 2025. To 11168 06:11:11,762 --> 06:11:12,662 avoid this agreement and that 11169 06:11:12,662 --> 06:11:14,231 it reversed course only after 11170 06:11:14,231 --> 06:11:14,931 the attorney general 11171 06:11:14,931 --> 06:11:16,931 threatened commissioners with 11172 06:11:18,350 --> 06:11:19,360 3 mobile from office. We do 11173 06:11:19,360 --> 06:11:22,636 not accept that threat to be 11174 06:11:23,507 --> 06:11:24,475 lawful. Please at a minute. We 11175 06:11:24,475 --> 06:11:26,143 also asked for a statement 11176 06:11:26,143 --> 06:11:27,111 from our city government 11177 06:11:27,111 --> 06:11:28,946 denouncing the harassment. Our 11178 06:11:28,946 --> 06:11:30,347 immigrant neighbors are 11179 06:11:30,347 --> 06:11:31,115 experiencing at the hands of 11180 06:11:31,115 --> 06:11:33,651 ice and Border Patrol agents 11181 06:11:33,651 --> 06:11:35,152 here in Key West. Our 11182 06:11:35,152 --> 06:11:37,689 neighbors need us to take a 11183 06:11:37,689 --> 06:11:40,490 stand. People are being taken 11184 06:11:40,490 --> 06:11:41,910 every day and we must stop 11185 06:11:41,910 --> 06:11:43,910 facilitating this inhumanity. 11186 06:11:49,433 --> 06:11:50,100 Thank you. Thank you so much. 11187 06:11:50,100 --> 06:11:53,601 It's no one else signed up 11188 06:11:55,372 --> 06:11:56,173 move to commissioner comments. 11189 06:11:56,173 --> 06:11:57,242 Commission comments. Monica, I 11190 06:11:57,242 --> 06:11:59,242 Mean, Commissioner Haskell, 11191 06:12:02,313 --> 06:12:03,949 thank you. Real quick. Its 11192 06:12:03,949 --> 06:12:04,516 behooves each commissioner to 11193 06:12:04,516 --> 06:12:07,516 look at your appointment to 11194 06:12:07,852 --> 06:12:08,786 the park's and rec board. And 11195 06:12:08,786 --> 06:12:10,956 if that is a person who has 11196 06:12:10,956 --> 06:12:11,223 had has a hard time making 2 11197 06:12:11,223 --> 06:12:11,789 meetings. 11198 06:12:11,789 --> 06:12:14,259 >> Or a hard time. Speaking 11199 06:12:14,259 --> 06:12:16,659 up. Appoints somebody else. 11200 06:12:19,398 --> 06:12:20,799 It's your it's your job. Yes, 11201 06:12:20,799 --> 06:12:23,199 commissioner, to see you. 11202 06:12:24,135 --> 06:12:25,904 Again. I want to say 11203 06:12:25,904 --> 06:12:28,340 congratulations to Mark u n 11204 06:12:28,340 --> 06:12:30,740 Chris Job. Thank campaign 11205 06:12:31,610 --> 06:12:34,100 everything. I like to 11206 06:12:34,747 --> 06:12:36,747 accommodate. 11207 06:12:38,817 --> 06:12:39,318 >> Anybody in And it's been an 11208 06:12:39,318 --> 06:12:41,860 issue with the federal 11209 06:12:41,860 --> 06:12:44,860 government. I don't know how 11210 06:12:45,256 --> 06:12:48,561 long. I don't know what means 11211 06:12:48,561 --> 06:12:49,128 we have to what we can do 11212 06:12:49,128 --> 06:12:51,330 without getting in trouble. 11213 06:12:51,330 --> 06:12:54,330 Getting. Put out of office. 11214 06:12:55,568 --> 06:12:57,470 But I think some should be 11215 06:12:57,470 --> 06:13:01,700 looked into that. We can reach 11216 06:13:01,700 --> 06:13:03,407 somebody frightening for the 11217 06:13:08,213 --> 06:13:08,748 specially out local. Again 11218 06:13:08,748 --> 06:13:12,180 when you look at the work 11219 06:13:12,180 --> 06:13:14,418 force in this hopedale 11220 06:13:16,589 --> 06:13:18,589 restaurants laundrie. Parking. 11221 06:13:21,828 --> 06:13:22,662 Every They are everywhere and 11222 06:13:22,662 --> 06:13:25,662 not only just Haitian Venice 11223 06:13:27,968 --> 06:13:30,968 Wayland. Mexican. We have a 11224 06:13:36,610 --> 06:13:37,243 real workforce here. That's 11225 06:13:37,243 --> 06:13:40,243 represented bowel. But the tps 11226 06:13:42,482 --> 06:13:44,216 involved. I just think this 11227 06:13:44,216 --> 06:13:47,216 this something could be done. 11228 06:13:48,388 --> 06:13:50,723 It just can't be. We just sit 11229 06:13:50,723 --> 06:13:51,324 back and just let it happen. 11230 06:13:51,324 --> 06:13:54,324 It's shameful. The other day 11231 06:13:56,530 --> 06:13:59,833 when. That guy's so son was on 11232 06:13:59,833 --> 06:14:01,101 the wall. What about tenders? 11233 06:14:01,101 --> 06:14:01,902 And they arrested this fall 11234 06:14:01,902 --> 06:14:02,935 that being they let him out. 11235 06:14:02,935 --> 06:14:05,839 But, you know, that was pretty 11236 06:14:05,839 --> 06:14:08,839 embarrassing near in Key West. 11237 06:14:09,900 --> 06:14:13,209 The son serving in the Navy on 11238 06:14:18,619 --> 06:14:21,689 to the Lincoln. You know, so. 11239 06:14:21,689 --> 06:14:22,623 I don't know my my my crash go 11240 06:14:22,623 --> 06:14:23,391 out to the Columbia in Israel 11241 06:14:23,391 --> 06:14:25,391 everywhere that there's 11242 06:14:26,193 --> 06:14:26,793 trouble, you know, I just 11243 06:14:26,793 --> 06:14:30,393 feel, you know, is it's never 11244 06:14:36,336 --> 06:14:37,271 enough. Commissioner mascot. 11245 06:14:37,271 --> 06:14:39,730 >> I was just going to say 11246 06:14:39,730 --> 06:14:41,800 thank you to pastor from for 11247 06:14:41,800 --> 06:14:42,644 for that. There's only so many 11248 06:14:42,644 --> 06:14:43,143 things you can accomplish in 11249 06:14:43,143 --> 06:14:45,543 one meeting. I would 11250 06:14:47,140 --> 06:14:47,582 definitely like to see us at 11251 06:14:47,582 --> 06:14:48,615 the OCTOBER meeting at the 11252 06:14:48,615 --> 06:14:51,615 very least have a discussion 11253 06:14:52,587 --> 06:14:54,456 item and what we can do here 11254 06:14:54,456 --> 06:14:54,956 every every incident that I 11255 06:14:54,956 --> 06:14:57,956 hear every video that I 11256 06:14:58,493 --> 06:14:59,127 watched everything that's and 11257 06:14:59,127 --> 06:14:59,860 happening, every business 11258 06:14:59,860 --> 06:15:00,428 owner that talked to about 11259 06:15:00,428 --> 06:15:03,428 somebody is being has been 11260 06:15:03,632 --> 06:15:06,368 taken. Breaks my heart and we 11261 06:15:06,368 --> 06:15:08,303 have to be able to, you know, 11262 06:15:08,303 --> 06:15:09,370 at the very least, discuss it 11263 06:15:09,370 --> 06:15:10,272 and make sure that our 11264 06:15:10,272 --> 06:15:13,272 residents know that we are 11265 06:15:13,541 --> 06:15:17,613 aware and then we care. I know 11266 06:15:17,613 --> 06:15:19,448 this is my first meeting. So I 11267 06:15:19,448 --> 06:15:20,682 I want residents and my 11268 06:15:20,682 --> 06:15:22,550 constituents to know that I am 11269 06:15:22,550 --> 06:15:23,118 very aware and I care and 11270 06:15:23,118 --> 06:15:23,752 we're not going to forget, 11271 06:15:23,752 --> 06:15:26,752 forget them and our immigrant. 11272 06:15:32,940 --> 06:15:32,661 So thank you. Comment on this. 11273 06:15:32,661 --> 06:15:35,731 >> I had 2 great and sty in 11274 06:15:35,731 --> 06:15:38,267 the Holocaust. I grew up in 11275 06:15:38,267 --> 06:15:40,667 immigrant household. And all 11276 06:15:41,336 --> 06:15:44,336 of my family wood. Remember. 11277 06:15:45,207 --> 06:15:45,808 The St. Louis? For those of 11278 06:15:45,808 --> 06:15:48,430 you don't know that what the 11279 06:15:48,430 --> 06:15:49,545 St. Louis was. It was a ship 11280 06:15:49,545 --> 06:15:50,412 of 900 Jews that were sent 11281 06:15:50,412 --> 06:15:53,412 back. So this is reminiscent 11282 06:15:54,316 --> 06:15:57,787 of that. We have to do 11283 06:15:57,787 --> 06:16:00,957 something. We have to be smart 11284 06:16:00,957 --> 06:16:01,991 and strategic about it. You 11285 06:16:01,991 --> 06:16:04,391 can't be ignoring the 11286 06:16:05,930 --> 06:16:07,493 sanctuary city statute. That 11287 06:16:08,960 --> 06:16:09,565 is a big hurdle to overcome. 11288 06:16:09,565 --> 06:16:10,660 That's why people like me and 11289 06:16:10,660 --> 06:16:10,766 people in this room are 11290 06:16:10,766 --> 06:16:13,766 fighting this so hard last 11291 06:16:15,337 --> 06:16:16,806 summer. In any case, my 11292 06:16:16,806 --> 06:16:17,373 thought is the mayor's office 11293 06:16:17,373 --> 06:16:20,310 is going to wait until the 11294 06:16:20,310 --> 06:16:20,910 elections in NOVEMBER. Because 11295 06:16:20,910 --> 06:16:22,512 the elections in NOVEMBER MAY 11296 06:16:22,512 --> 06:16:24,781 have a big shift change with 11297 06:16:24,781 --> 06:16:26,850 regard to the possibilities. 11298 06:16:26,850 --> 06:16:31,500 So that's my take on it. I 11299 06:16:32,122 --> 06:16:34,124 don't think we should b Making 11300 06:16:34,124 --> 06:16:34,824 any decisions on district's 11301 06:16:34,824 --> 06:16:35,358 chief strategy as a city until 11302 06:16:35,358 --> 06:16:37,760 we see the outcome of the 11303 06:16:37,760 --> 06:16:38,361 elections in NOVEMBER, not the 11304 06:16:38,361 --> 06:16:40,530 local elections. I'm talking 11305 06:16:40,530 --> 06:16:42,930 about the statewide elections. 11306 06:16:43,533 --> 06:16:46,369 But this is very serious. 11307 06:16:46,369 --> 06:16:47,203 Organizations like was an had 11308 06:16:47,203 --> 06:16:49,105 the support of the mayor's 11309 06:16:49,105 --> 06:16:49,739 office and apparently other 11310 06:16:49,739 --> 06:16:51,875 commissioners here and we will 11311 06:16:51,875 --> 06:16:54,977 have a strategy. We will have 11312 06:16:54,977 --> 06:16:57,714 a path forward and we need 11313 06:16:57,714 --> 06:17:00,714 more information. So that the 11314 06:17:00,818 --> 06:17:02,418 public knows what the Key West 11315 06:17:02,418 --> 06:17:02,986 Police Department is doing. 11316 06:17:02,986 --> 06:17:04,788 What it's not doing. I was 11317 06:17:04,788 --> 06:17:06,757 very happy to see Chief 11318 06:17:06,757 --> 06:17:08,726 Brandenburg come and speak 11319 06:17:08,726 --> 06:17:09,693 about the flock cameras this 11320 06:17:09,693 --> 06:17:10,193 morning because having 11321 06:17:10,193 --> 06:17:12,193 accurate information is 11322 06:17:12,495 --> 06:17:14,965 important. We have a great 11323 06:17:14,965 --> 06:17:17,365 police department. Let's not 11324 06:17:19,300 --> 06:17:19,937 forget that. We have a great 11325 06:17:19,937 --> 06:17:20,537 police department, a police 11326 06:17:20,537 --> 06:17:23,537 department that we are proud 11327 06:17:25,242 --> 06:17:29,146 of. We are proud of them. We 11328 06:17:29,146 --> 06:17:29,881 but we have to support them 11329 06:17:29,881 --> 06:17:30,414 and they are in an untenable 11330 06:17:30,414 --> 06:17:32,814 situation because of the 11331 06:17:34,785 --> 06:17:35,319 policy. That being said, we 11332 06:17:35,319 --> 06:17:38,919 have to figure out a path 11333 06:17:39,423 --> 06:17:40,580 forward and we will okay. That 11334 06:17:40,580 --> 06:17:40,658 being said, I want to also say 11335 06:17:40,658 --> 06:17:43,580 Commissioner Haskell said is 11336 06:17:43,561 --> 06:17:45,961 very important. They get 11337 06:17:46,463 --> 06:17:47,264 bigger issue with Commissioner 11338 06:17:47,264 --> 06:17:47,765 Haskell said was it's our 11339 06:17:47,765 --> 06:17:49,765 responsibility to have 11340 06:17:50,735 --> 06:17:52,470 proactive board members. And 11341 06:17:52,470 --> 06:17:53,671 so we all need to really talk 11342 06:17:53,671 --> 06:17:54,272 to all board members today. 11343 06:17:54,272 --> 06:17:56,407 Want to be on the board. They 11344 06:17:56,407 --> 06:17:58,342 now want to be on the board 11345 06:17:58,342 --> 06:17:59,311 and then I can tell you the 11346 06:17:59,311 --> 06:17:59,911 mayor's office will be 11347 06:17:59,911 --> 06:18:01,946 sponsoring a training session 11348 06:18:01,946 --> 06:18:03,948 for board members. We're going 11349 06:18:03,948 --> 06:18:05,550 to we need to have a training 11350 06:18:05,550 --> 06:18:06,150 session and the training 11351 06:18:06,150 --> 06:18:09,150 session is not intended only 11352 06:18:10,655 --> 06:18:13,655 to be the technical details. 11353 06:18:16,595 --> 06:18:17,763 Sunshine will. Other other 11354 06:18:17,763 --> 06:18:21,363 legal aspects. What we need to 11355 06:18:21,533 --> 06:18:24,302 do with our board members is 11356 06:18:24,302 --> 06:18:26,271 encourage them emphasis on 11357 06:18:26,271 --> 06:18:26,838 encouraging them to bring 11358 06:18:26,838 --> 06:18:29,238 resolutions with advice to 11359 06:18:30,909 --> 06:18:31,477 this body. And we and we have 11360 06:18:31,477 --> 06:18:31,910 to task them with certain 11361 06:18:31,910 --> 06:18:33,512 things. That's what 11362 06:18:33,512 --> 06:18:34,146 commissioner mascot, I think 11363 06:18:34,146 --> 06:18:34,979 was saying we're going to tell 11364 06:18:34,979 --> 06:18:36,648 that we need to tell the the 11365 06:18:36,648 --> 06:18:39,885 park's and rec board to take 11366 06:18:39,885 --> 06:18:40,486 on hate speech to take on 11367 06:18:40,486 --> 06:18:41,887 Bayview Park because you know 11368 06:18:41,887 --> 06:18:43,880 how that benefits us. This is 11369 06:18:43,880 --> 06:18:45,488 going to save time. 11370 06:18:47,226 --> 06:18:48,270 Commissioner mascot. No, all 11371 06:18:48,270 --> 06:18:48,627 of us up here because I'm at 11372 06:18:48,627 --> 06:18:52,227 imagine all the hours that we 11373 06:18:52,564 --> 06:18:53,165 would have to spend convening 11374 06:18:53,165 --> 06:18:55,267 workshops, right? And we have 11375 06:18:55,267 --> 06:18:57,269 all of the look, we have any 11376 06:18:57,269 --> 06:18:58,938 items we had 50 or 60 items on 11377 06:18:58,938 --> 06:18:59,504 tonight's agenda. We need the 11378 06:18:59,504 --> 06:19:00,973 Parks and rec board to take 11379 06:19:00,973 --> 06:19:01,707 that on. And commissioner 11380 06:19:01,707 --> 06:19:04,410 mascot with that being said, 11381 06:19:04,410 --> 06:19:06,344 okay, I don't have anything 11382 06:19:06,344 --> 06:19:07,346 else. Thanks for everybody for 11383 06:19:07,346 --> 06:19:07,913 supporting us. And our first 11384 06:19:07,913 --> 06:19:09,649 meeting as a new commission 11385 06:19:09,649 --> 06:19:12,490 commissioner Castillo. I got 11386 06:19:14,387 --> 06:19:17,387 one thing's for only one. 11387 06:19:17,623 --> 06:19:20,623 >> Yeah. Only one. Yes. Just 11388 06:19:21,327 --> 06:19:24,927 to bring up to cold, probably 11389 06:19:25,131 --> 06:19:25,965 with the cra in Bahama 11390 06:19:25,965 --> 06:19:28,965 Village. The Beaver back. And 11391 06:19:29,902 --> 06:19:31,738 that's a central item of 11392 06:19:31,738 --> 06:19:33,739 training that needs to go to 11393 06:19:33,739 --> 06:19:34,874 the board members there. So I 11394 06:19:34,874 --> 06:19:36,810 appreciate it. And if that can 11395 06:19:36,810 --> 06:19:39,810 go all around all bolts 11396 06:19:39,846 --> 06:19:41,781 >> okay. Thank Okay. We are 11397 06:19:41,781 --> 06:19:42,349 adjourning the city. We're 11398 06:19:42,349 --> 06:19:44,749 turning the city commission 11399 06:19:45,850 --> 06:19:48,850 meeting. And now we which 11400 06:19:48,880 --> 06:19:48,655 meeting cra we are. We're 11401 06:19:48,655 --> 06:19:51,655 going we're opening the cra 11402 06:19:53,160 --> 06:19:55,160 meeting. Commissioner Carey 11403 06:19:55,461 --> 06:19:57,130 here, commissioner Castillo, 11404 06:19:57,130 --> 06:19:57,731 their Commissioner Haskell 11405 06:19:57,731 --> 06:19:58,264 Year, Commissioner Lane here, 11406 06:19:58,264 --> 06:20:00,233 commissioner mascot here, 11407 06:20:00,233 --> 06:20:02,633 Commissioner Ross Inc. Mayor 11408 06:20:04,710 --> 06:20:04,872 Kasim. I'm also still here and 11409 06:20:04,872 --> 06:20:05,472 I have the pledge on here. 11410 06:20:05,472 --> 06:20:06,390 Apologies for not doing that 11411 06:20:06,390 --> 06:20:09,390 again. And the approval of 11412 06:20:09,576 --> 06:20:10,743 agenda. 11413 06:20:10,743 --> 06:20:12,479 >> Okay. Is this emotional? We 11414 06:20:12,479 --> 06:20:13,130 do have a change. We have 11415 06:20:13,130 --> 06:20:15,649 someone wants to speak on 11416 06:20:15,649 --> 06:20:18,485 number 2. So ok, really the 11417 06:20:18,485 --> 06:20:19,530 gate, the consent agenda. 11418 06:20:19,530 --> 06:20:21,550 Okay. Is there a motion to 11419 06:20:21,550 --> 06:20:23,455 approve the minutes? From 11420 06:20:25,392 --> 06:20:25,926 8/6/2026. Okay. There's a 11421 06:20:25,926 --> 06:20:26,527 motion from Commissioner 11422 06:20:26,527 --> 06:20:28,963 Castillo, second from See all 11423 06:20:28,963 --> 06:20:30,564 those in favor. Aye. Any 11424 06:20:30,564 --> 06:20:32,964 opposed motion carries great. 11425 06:20:35,570 --> 06:20:36,537 I'd of next item. Resolutions 11426 06:20:36,537 --> 06:20:38,606 item number 2 approving the 11427 06:20:38,606 --> 06:20:40,410 fiscal year 2026. To 2027 and 11428 06:20:40,410 --> 06:20:42,943 key West Bight marina fees 11429 06:20:42,943 --> 06:20:44,110 collection manual has attached 11430 06:20:44,110 --> 06:20:44,579 here too and made a part 11431 06:20:44,579 --> 06:20:47,579 hereof. And Leon Moyer has 11432 06:20:49,117 --> 06:20:52,117 signed up to speak. Good 11433 06:20:53,387 --> 06:20:54,555 evening. Mayor commissioners. 11434 06:20:54,555 --> 06:20:55,957 >> Leon, where here and this 11435 06:20:55,957 --> 06:20:59,561 at matter is close to my heart 11436 06:20:59,561 --> 06:21:00,940 and even closer to my wallet. 11437 06:21:00,940 --> 06:21:01,429 Because fee increase that 11438 06:21:01,429 --> 06:21:03,429 there's projecting here 11439 06:21:04,650 --> 06:21:06,100 applies to me when I bring my 11440 06:21:06,100 --> 06:21:07,869 dinghy in doubt, the historic 11441 06:21:07,869 --> 06:21:09,703 dock, I attended the bite 11442 06:21:09,703 --> 06:21:11,172 meeting and I spoke against 11443 06:21:11,172 --> 06:21:14,772 the increase and I asked the 11444 06:21:14,910 --> 06:21:16,110 director Steve Mcalarney to 11445 06:21:16,110 --> 06:21:17,179 explain exactly why they 11446 06:21:17,179 --> 06:21:18,813 needed to increase fees to 11447 06:21:18,813 --> 06:21:21,490 tell us the money is going to 11448 06:21:21,490 --> 06:21:21,982 go. And he never addressed 11449 06:21:21,982 --> 06:21:23,151 that issue. He simply stood up 11450 06:21:23,151 --> 06:21:26,151 and said, well, we're still 11451 06:21:26,722 --> 06:21:27,756 less expensive. A marathon. 11452 06:21:27,756 --> 06:21:29,892 We'll You're also a lot more 11453 06:21:29,892 --> 06:21:31,727 expensive Fort Myers Beach, 11454 06:21:31,727 --> 06:21:33,829 which is totally free for new 11455 06:21:33,829 --> 06:21:34,963 dog cage free for water. Free 11456 06:21:34,963 --> 06:21:36,865 to store your bicycles there. 11457 06:21:36,865 --> 06:21:38,867 So why are you comparing 11458 06:21:38,867 --> 06:21:40,736 yourselves and trying to 11459 06:21:40,736 --> 06:21:41,836 simply raise fees? Because now 11460 06:21:41,836 --> 06:21:42,404 marathon MAY want to go up or 11461 06:21:42,404 --> 06:21:43,806 some other city goes up 11462 06:21:43,806 --> 06:21:44,773 because it's a key west, raise 11463 06:21:44,773 --> 06:21:48,373 their fees. This is not the 11464 06:21:48,643 --> 06:21:50,379 way to run a government. So I 11465 06:21:50,379 --> 06:21:51,447 just want to watch my protest 11466 06:21:51,447 --> 06:21:51,981 in the thing is the fee is 11467 06:21:51,981 --> 06:21:54,981 only going up 15 bucks a 11468 06:21:55,151 --> 06:21:55,984 month. And one of the board 11469 06:21:55,984 --> 06:21:58,984 member said, well, this is 11470 06:21:59,422 --> 06:22:02,422 just $0.50 a day. He's right, 11471 06:22:03,326 --> 06:22:04,293 but it's not the it's the 11472 06:22:04,293 --> 06:22:05,328 principle. It's not the amount 11473 06:22:05,328 --> 06:22:07,897 of money. Why everybody trying 11474 06:22:07,897 --> 06:22:08,831 to get more and more and what 11475 06:22:08,831 --> 06:22:11,466 am I going to get extra for 11476 06:22:11,466 --> 06:22:13,202 this? Absolutely nothing. 11477 06:22:13,202 --> 06:22:14,102 You're saying you using it for 11478 06:22:14,102 --> 06:22:17,102 daca agent for rebuilding and 11479 06:22:17,407 --> 06:22:17,974 know what happens. But anyway, 11480 06:22:17,974 --> 06:22:20,974 please consider this. And I 11481 06:22:21,511 --> 06:22:22,440 would ask that you not pass. 11482 06:22:22,440 --> 06:22:22,611 I'm not going to ask for 11483 06:22:22,611 --> 06:22:23,179 special favors just for the 11484 06:22:23,179 --> 06:22:26,179 dinghy doctor. I'm going to 11485 06:22:27,150 --> 06:22:27,716 say for the entire a manual 11486 06:22:27,716 --> 06:22:29,850 that has come fees for just 11487 06:22:29,850 --> 06:22:32,850 about every line item. So 11488 06:22:34,190 --> 06:22:34,657 thank you for your attention. 11489 06:22:34,657 --> 06:22:36,920 Bring it back to the 11490 06:22:36,920 --> 06:22:36,392 commission. Is there 11491 06:22:36,392 --> 06:22:38,392 discussion? 11492 06:22:42,498 --> 06:22:44,898 >> Questions motion. Motion to 11493 06:22:46,670 --> 06:22:47,203 approve from Vice Mayor Lee. 11494 06:22:47,203 --> 06:22:48,839 Is there a second second? 11495 06:22:48,839 --> 06:22:50,600 There's second from 11496 06:22:50,600 --> 06:22:50,607 Commissioner Carey. I think 11497 06:22:50,607 --> 06:22:51,842 that's commissioner Haskell, 11498 06:22:51,842 --> 06:22:53,777 maybe wanting to speak. Thank 11499 06:22:53,777 --> 06:22:55,777 you. You did. 11500 06:23:01,384 --> 06:23:01,952 >> Yes, I. This. I'm gonna 11501 06:23:01,952 --> 06:23:04,186 speak about Dakich. And at 11502 06:23:04,186 --> 06:23:07,786 this time of year, there's a 11503 06:23:08,158 --> 06:23:08,725 lot of daca that is empty 11504 06:23:08,725 --> 06:23:09,359 during season. You know, we 11505 06:23:09,359 --> 06:23:11,395 have times of Trenton vessels. 11506 06:23:11,395 --> 06:23:14,395 It's packed. The city could 11507 06:23:16,330 --> 06:23:18,936 make some more money they had 11508 06:23:18,936 --> 06:23:22,536 a summer rate for that, I'm 11509 06:23:24,707 --> 06:23:27,707 kitsch. And I just Somebody 11510 06:23:28,646 --> 06:23:29,580 should look into that 11511 06:23:29,580 --> 06:23:32,580 >> I'm looking at you back 11512 06:23:36,921 --> 06:23:37,121 that master that they okay. 11513 06:23:37,121 --> 06:23:38,356 Okay. 11514 06:23:38,356 --> 06:23:38,656 >> Any other discussion or 11515 06:23:38,656 --> 06:23:40,558 questions. 11516 06:23:40,558 --> 06:23:42,558 >> But things Okay. 11517 06:23:42,893 --> 06:23:44,270 Commissioner Rusty. Let's hear 11518 06:23:44,270 --> 06:23:47,627 what you have I think you're 11519 06:23:49,333 --> 06:23:50,501 right. We need to look into 11520 06:23:50,501 --> 06:23:51,803 that because there's a lot of 11521 06:23:51,803 --> 06:23:52,370 the news starts year's. No 11522 06:23:52,370 --> 06:23:55,370 more live awards down their 11523 06:23:57,408 --> 06:23:58,142 sec. Correct. 11524 06:23:58,142 --> 06:23:59,143 >> Maybe 3 or 4. I think at 11525 06:23:59,143 --> 06:24:02,113 the last Good look at the 11526 06:24:02,113 --> 06:24:03,130 official head count. 11527 06:24:03,130 --> 06:24:05,130 >> Good evening. Mayor 11528 06:24:07,218 --> 06:24:09,218 commissioners we currently 11529 06:24:10,454 --> 06:24:14,540 have 4 boards down at us by 11530 06:24:15,560 --> 06:24:16,294 there is a a local summer 11531 06:24:16,294 --> 06:24:18,129 transit, right that we do have 11532 06:24:18,129 --> 06:24:21,129 now that's listed 4.3 and your 11533 06:24:22,733 --> 06:24:23,868 fees manual. So that that is 11534 06:24:23,868 --> 06:24:24,503 available. Now, you've had 11535 06:24:24,503 --> 06:24:26,304 that for several years. You've 11536 06:24:26,304 --> 06:24:28,704 had that opportunity. It's 11537 06:24:29,541 --> 06:24:32,644 it's I would say that it's not 11538 06:24:32,644 --> 06:24:33,278 just that sent 2 down. So the 11539 06:24:33,278 --> 06:24:34,379 key West by I mean, if we look 11540 06:24:34,379 --> 06:24:36,779 extort our neighbors to 11541 06:24:39,318 --> 06:24:40,520 Gallion Kong Harbor, we 11542 06:24:40,520 --> 06:24:40,652 definitely seeing a slower 11543 06:24:40,652 --> 06:24:44,252 season than we saw last year 11544 06:24:46,825 --> 06:24:47,626 when I was here. Small 11545 06:24:47,626 --> 06:24:51,226 increases. But we felt like we 11546 06:24:51,330 --> 06:24:51,897 needed to do something to 11547 06:24:51,897 --> 06:24:52,831 increase our revenues down 11548 06:24:52,831 --> 06:24:56,431 there as we get direction from 11549 06:25:00,405 --> 06:25:01,600 management and the commission. 11550 06:25:01,600 --> 06:25:02,742 Seems like everything's going 11551 06:25:02,742 --> 06:25:03,342 up these days anywhere. You 11552 06:25:03,342 --> 06:25:06,342 know, inflation going just a 11553 06:25:07,279 --> 06:25:07,847 little. Yeah. Commissioner 11554 06:25:07,847 --> 06:25:10,247 receives you have anything 11555 06:25:15,721 --> 06:25:16,289 else. Was hoping you had 11556 06:25:16,289 --> 06:25:18,491 something else. You always 11557 06:25:18,491 --> 06:25:19,580 have good things to say. So 11558 06:25:19,580 --> 06:25:20,920 all right. So guess we can 11559 06:25:20,920 --> 06:25:22,762 call the roll release of ready 11560 06:25:22,762 --> 06:25:25,164 for that commissioner Carey s 11561 06:25:25,164 --> 06:25:26,733 commissioner Castillo. 11562 06:25:26,733 --> 06:25:28,733 Commissioner Haskell. Yes, 11563 06:25:29,569 --> 06:25:30,103 commissioner Lee. Yes. 11564 06:25:30,103 --> 06:25:31,270 Commissioner mascot. Yes. 11565 06:25:31,270 --> 06:25:33,670 Commissioner Ross Sea Mayor 11566 06:25:37,777 --> 06:25:38,844 Coffman now. Motion passes. 11567 06:25:38,844 --> 06:25:39,846 Public comment. We don't have 11568 06:25:39,846 --> 06:25:43,446 So we're done with this one 11569 06:25:45,850 --> 06:25:46,190 our. Adjourning, the cra 11570 06:25:46,190 --> 06:25:47,553 meeting and then which is the 11571 06:25:47,553 --> 06:25:48,388 next thing that naval 11572 06:25:48,388 --> 06:25:50,788 properties convening the Naval 11573 06:25:52,292 --> 06:25:52,992 properties meeting. 11574 06:25:52,992 --> 06:25:54,894 Commissioner Carey here, 11575 06:25:54,894 --> 06:25:55,462 Commissioner Castillo here, 11576 06:25:55,462 --> 06:25:57,297 Commissioner Haskell here, 11577 06:25:57,297 --> 06:25:57,830 Commissioner Lee here, 11578 06:25:57,830 --> 06:25:59,366 commissioner mascot here, 11579 06:25:59,366 --> 06:26:01,366 Commissioner Wasi. Aircraft 11580 06:26:04,671 --> 06:26:06,707 here. Approval of agenda. 11581 06:26:06,707 --> 06:26:07,341 Number 3 is being asked to be 11582 06:26:07,341 --> 06:26:08,800 postponed to OCTOBER first and 11583 06:26:08,800 --> 06:26:08,642 we can do that part of the 11584 06:26:08,642 --> 06:26:10,778 consent agenda. That's ok with 11585 06:26:10,778 --> 06:26:11,278 everyone. 11586 06:26:11,278 --> 06:26:14,278 >> Is there a motion to 11587 06:26:14,948 --> 06:26:15,716 approve the consent agenda, 11588 06:26:15,716 --> 06:26:16,317 move to approve? The sorry. 11589 06:26:16,317 --> 06:26:18,585 We're on start of a We're on 11590 06:26:18,585 --> 06:26:20,585 approval of agenda. 11591 06:26:21,555 --> 06:26:23,955 >> Okay. Approving the agenda 11592 06:26:27,627 --> 06:26:28,262 to approve steeper. That's 11593 06:26:28,262 --> 06:26:31,932 just us here. You here for the 11594 06:26:31,932 --> 06:26:32,967 naval meeting. 11595 06:26:32,967 --> 06:26:33,533 >> Yes, but I believe we're up 11596 06:26:33,533 --> 06:26:34,634 here for the following item 11597 06:26:34,634 --> 06:26:37,634 after this postponed. Ok, hold 11598 06:26:38,239 --> 06:26:41,107 on. So. MADAM Clerk okay, we 11599 06:26:41,107 --> 06:26:43,944 have everything on consent and 11600 06:26:43,944 --> 06:26:44,478 that's item. Number 3 is being 11601 06:26:44,478 --> 06:26:45,713 postponed to OCTOBER 1st. 11602 06:26:45,713 --> 06:26:48,113 That's what I understand. 11603 06:26:48,583 --> 06:26:49,783 Kerry, I'm sorry. There has to 11604 06:26:49,783 --> 06:26:51,819 and we didn't realize until 11605 06:26:51,819 --> 06:26:53,521 today, but in the resolution, 11606 06:26:53,521 --> 06:26:55,223 there is a date certain for 11607 06:26:55,223 --> 06:26:56,157 the approval of the item. 11608 06:26:56,157 --> 06:26:56,725 Number 2, that's being 11609 06:26:56,725 --> 06:26:58,960 postponed. Okay. So they're 11610 06:26:58,960 --> 06:26:59,560 just asking for it too. 11611 06:26:59,560 --> 06:27:00,610 >> The stricken that date to 11612 06:27:00,610 --> 06:27:00,627 be stricken from the 11613 06:27:00,627 --> 06:27:03,270 resolution for item. Number 11614 06:27:03,865 --> 06:27:05,533 one. Ok, that will ease. That 11615 06:27:05,533 --> 06:27:07,601 will be heard again next 11616 06:27:07,601 --> 06:27:09,170 month. Now confused. We says 11617 06:27:09,170 --> 06:27:09,838 that we said that item 3 was 11618 06:27:09,838 --> 06:27:12,640 the impulse. Guess now you're 11619 06:27:12,640 --> 06:27:14,609 saying item 2 is being 11620 06:27:14,609 --> 06:27:16,710 questioned. No item. 2 is a 11621 06:27:16,710 --> 06:27:18,460 signatory authority on page 3 11622 06:27:18,460 --> 06:27:20,446 in 2 different paragraphs that 11623 06:27:20,448 --> 06:27:22,170 references today's date for 11624 06:27:22,170 --> 06:27:23,518 the approval of item number 3. 11625 06:27:23,518 --> 06:27:25,918 Okay. Because fund, I 11626 06:27:29,624 --> 06:27:30,825 understand okay. Okay. Okay. 11627 06:27:30,825 --> 06:27:32,327 So you want strike the dates 11628 06:27:32,327 --> 06:27:36,131 are so we need to call item 11629 06:27:36,131 --> 06:27:36,965 number 2 in order to change 11630 06:27:36,965 --> 06:27:39,965 the resolution. So let's let's 11631 06:27:41,103 --> 06:27:42,838 it's ok. For all that consent 11632 06:27:42,838 --> 06:27:44,710 can be minutes and postponing 11633 06:27:44,710 --> 06:27:44,673 number 3. Yes, it will pull. 11634 06:27:44,673 --> 06:27:48,273 And so we're going to remove 11635 06:27:48,710 --> 06:27:49,211 item to from consent when the 11636 06:27:49,211 --> 06:27:49,945 call to. We're going to 11637 06:27:49,945 --> 06:27:52,345 approve the consent agenda 11638 06:27:54,850 --> 06:27:55,684 items. One in 3 and the 3 is 11639 06:27:55,684 --> 06:27:56,519 postponement. Okay. To say Is 11640 06:27:56,519 --> 06:28:00,119 there a motion to approve the 11641 06:28:00,122 --> 06:28:00,723 agenda? Make a motion second 11642 06:28:00,723 --> 06:28:03,225 see approves makes the motion 11643 06:28:03,225 --> 06:28:03,859 to approve the agenda. 11644 06:28:03,859 --> 06:28:04,392 Commissioner Chrystia seconds. 11645 06:28:04,392 --> 06:28:06,161 All those in favor of the 11646 06:28:06,161 --> 06:28:09,761 approve the agenda I I. Any 11647 06:28:10,466 --> 06:28:11,600 opposed hearing none motion 11648 06:28:11,600 --> 06:28:12,568 carries that is and is there a 11649 06:28:12,568 --> 06:28:14,770 motion to approve the consent 11650 06:28:14,770 --> 06:28:15,371 agenda as amended before 11651 06:28:15,371 --> 06:28:17,373 commissioner can see a mix of 11652 06:28:17,373 --> 06:28:18,700 ocean? Is there a second 11653 06:28:18,700 --> 06:28:20,700 commissioner received seconds? 11654 06:28:20,443 --> 06:28:22,145 All those in favor say Aye, 11655 06:28:22,145 --> 06:28:24,545 any opposed hearing. None 11656 06:28:25,148 --> 06:28:26,314 motion carries number 2, 11657 06:28:26,314 --> 06:28:28,510 granting the chair signatory 11658 06:28:28,510 --> 06:28:29,319 authority to execute the 11659 06:28:29,319 --> 06:28:30,186 declaration of Restrictive 11660 06:28:30,186 --> 06:28:33,155 Covenant on behalf of the 11661 06:28:33,155 --> 06:28:33,756 Naval Properties. Local 11662 06:28:33,756 --> 06:28:34,357 redevelopment authority is a 11663 06:28:34,357 --> 06:28:34,823 prerequisite required by the 11664 06:28:34,823 --> 06:28:35,457 Florida Department of 11665 06:28:35,457 --> 06:28:37,360 Environmental Protection Prior 11666 06:28:37,360 --> 06:28:38,361 to its approval. 11667 06:28:38,361 --> 06:28:39,295 >> Of the Declaration of 11668 06:28:39,295 --> 06:28:39,763 Restrictive Covenant 11669 06:28:39,763 --> 06:28:41,763 clarifying that this 11670 06:28:42,310 --> 06:28:44,330 resolution does not constitute 11671 06:28:44,330 --> 06:28:45,101 approval of the declaration of 11672 06:28:45,101 --> 06:28:47,360 restrictive Covenant, which 11673 06:28:47,360 --> 06:28:48,304 shall be brought before the 11674 06:28:48,304 --> 06:28:51,241 lra for consideration at its 11675 06:28:51,241 --> 06:28:51,774 SEPTEMBER 3rd, 2026 meeting. 11676 06:28:51,774 --> 06:28:52,776 >> What is the suggested 11677 06:28:52,776 --> 06:28:56,376 change of date? So we asked 11678 06:28:57,781 --> 06:29:00,383 staff. To a piece APRIL Mayor 11679 06:29:00,383 --> 06:29:02,383 commissioners, Tina Verne's 11680 06:29:02,619 --> 06:29:03,687 community development manager 11681 06:29:03,687 --> 06:29:04,353 and just to we can strike the 11682 06:29:04,353 --> 06:29:07,353 date over before. This is 11683 06:29:08,158 --> 06:29:09,726 Supreme Court precursor to 11684 06:29:09,726 --> 06:29:11,726 approving the declaration 11685 06:29:12,563 --> 06:29:12,830 which will come next in 11686 06:29:12,830 --> 06:29:14,298 OCTOBER. 11687 06:29:14,298 --> 06:29:14,765 >> So is there a motion to 11688 06:29:14,765 --> 06:29:17,165 approve the rest? The 11689 06:29:17,801 --> 06:29:19,369 resolution? The item by with 11690 06:29:19,369 --> 06:29:22,172 striking the date striking the 11691 06:29:22,172 --> 06:29:23,700 day. That's correct. 11692 06:29:23,700 --> 06:29:24,410 Commissioner Carey makes the 11693 06:29:24,410 --> 06:29:24,541 motion Commissioner Haskell 11694 06:29:24,541 --> 06:29:26,941 seconds. Is there more 11695 06:29:28,279 --> 06:29:29,380 discussion? All those in 11696 06:29:29,380 --> 06:29:29,980 favor. Please say Aye. Any 11697 06:29:29,980 --> 06:29:32,380 opposed hearing. None motion 11698 06:29:35,119 --> 06:29:36,287 carries. We have the public 11699 06:29:36,287 --> 06:29:36,753 comment. Public comment. Okay. 11700 06:29:36,753 --> 06:29:38,656 Adjourning the naval 11701 06:29:38,656 --> 06:29:40,656 properties meeting. Convening 11702 06:29:44,362 --> 06:29:45,930 the g o a. Commissioner. Carey 11703 06:29:45,930 --> 06:29:46,463 here, commissioner kissed you 11704 06:29:46,463 --> 06:29:47,640 hear Commissioner Haskell 11705 06:29:47,640 --> 06:29:49,640 here, Commissioner here. 11706 06:29:49,567 --> 06:29:51,567 >> Commissioner mascot here, 11707 06:29:53,771 --> 06:29:56,771 see Mayor Coffman. Still here. 11708 06:29:59,410 --> 06:30:00,110 Approval of agenda. Is 11709 06:30:00,110 --> 06:30:00,878 >> It is. The can Is there a 11710 06:30:00,878 --> 06:30:03,878 motion to approve the agenda? 11711 06:30:05,850 --> 06:30:06,517 Many of those I heard a 11712 06:30:06,517 --> 06:30:07,852 commissioner. Kerry made the 11713 06:30:07,852 --> 06:30:08,453 motion Commissioner Rose Rossi 11714 06:30:08,453 --> 06:30:11,453 seconds. All those in favor. 11715 06:30:12,823 --> 06:30:15,260 Please say aye. Any opposed. 11716 06:30:15,260 --> 06:30:17,796 Motion to approve the minutes. 11717 06:30:17,796 --> 06:30:18,363 Yes, from 8/6/2026 11718 06:30:18,363 --> 06:30:20,363 commissioner Castillo makes 11719 06:30:21,199 --> 06:30:22,133 the motion. Is there a second? 11720 06:30:22,133 --> 06:30:23,167 That was close on who said 11721 06:30:23,167 --> 06:30:25,170 that first. Want to say 11722 06:30:25,170 --> 06:30:26,504 Commissioner Haskell made the 11723 06:30:26,504 --> 06:30:29,307 second all those in favor. 11724 06:30:29,307 --> 06:30:30,508 Please say Aye. Any opposed 11725 06:30:30,508 --> 06:30:31,609 hearing. None motion carries 11726 06:30:31,609 --> 06:30:34,179 and now item number 2 is 11727 06:30:34,179 --> 06:30:35,948 requested to be postponed to 11728 06:30:35,948 --> 06:30:38,417 OCTOBER. 1st, is there a 11729 06:30:38,417 --> 06:30:41,530 motion to postpone item to to 11730 06:30:41,530 --> 06:30:42,530 OCTOBER 1st motion was made 11731 06:30:42,530 --> 06:30:43,388 Commissioner Ross. The second 11732 06:30:43,388 --> 06:30:43,956 was made by commissioner 11733 06:30:43,956 --> 06:30:46,224 mascot. All those in favor. 11734 06:30:46,224 --> 06:30:49,600 Please say Aye. Any opposed 11735 06:30:49,600 --> 06:30:49,628 weight can help. 11736 06:30:49,628 --> 06:30:52,628 >> And can I discuss. Yeah, 11737 06:30:53,320 --> 06:30:56,320 course. Yes. Why? Well, who 11738 06:30:56,680 --> 06:30:57,235 asked for the postponement? 11739 06:30:57,235 --> 06:30:58,236 >> Can we our legal staff or 11740 06:30:58,236 --> 06:31:01,836 the applicant? It was the app 11741 06:31:02,774 --> 06:31:03,742 for The of the appellant. It's 11742 06:31:03,742 --> 06:31:05,845 an appeal that's true. 11743 06:31:05,845 --> 06:31:07,179 Appellate appellants is asking 11744 06:31:07,179 --> 06:31:08,713 for aj Davila me after the 11745 06:31:08,713 --> 06:31:11,113 appellate we've actually work 11746 06:31:11,183 --> 06:31:11,984 with the city quite a bit the 11747 06:31:11,984 --> 06:31:13,952 past few days. Believe we 11748 06:31:13,952 --> 06:31:15,488 stipulate to the postponement 11749 06:31:15,488 --> 06:31:19,880 to next month, but I don't 11750 06:31:20,226 --> 06:31:20,792 speak for them. 11751 06:31:20,792 --> 06:31:23,296 >> This the city s for the 11752 06:31:23,296 --> 06:31:23,795 postponement are noted. 11753 06:31:23,795 --> 06:31:25,298 >> We requested, but we 11754 06:31:25,298 --> 06:31:26,298 believe agree with it. It 11755 06:31:26,298 --> 06:31:26,899 sounds like they're working on 11756 06:31:26,899 --> 06:31:30,499 a resolution, which is a good 11757 06:31:33,239 --> 06:31:34,307 thing. Another question 11758 06:31:34,307 --> 06:31:36,242 strict. I think the applicant 11759 06:31:36,242 --> 06:31:37,176 is asking for more time to 11760 06:31:37,176 --> 06:31:37,710 work with city staff about an 11761 06:31:37,710 --> 06:31:39,479 overall resolution right 11762 06:31:39,479 --> 06:31:41,479 matter. 11763 06:31:41,481 --> 06:31:43,283 >> MR. This meant staff agreed 11764 06:31:43,283 --> 06:31:45,418 that made sense to do. 11765 06:31:45,418 --> 06:31:47,220 Resolutions are always good. 11766 06:31:47,220 --> 06:31:49,620 We'd like for Solutions. 11767 06:31:49,789 --> 06:31:50,556 Commissioner Kaseya, if I this 11768 06:31:50,556 --> 06:31:53,556 is close to Richard Hatch 11769 06:31:56,363 --> 06:31:59,363 health. White Street. And it's 11770 06:31:59,433 --> 06:32:03,633 going to be a soco. Feel I 11771 06:32:06,540 --> 06:32:07,273 Harkey. Is this going to be a 11772 06:32:07,273 --> 06:32:09,176 good Commissioner? Casteel 11773 06:32:09,176 --> 06:32:11,440 were on an appeal on the board 11774 06:32:11,440 --> 06:32:12,346 of adjustment with regard ing 11775 06:32:12,346 --> 06:32:14,746 7.12, Eaton Street, ok, I'm 11776 06:32:16,149 --> 06:32:18,850 sorry. That's okay. Roland as 11777 06:32:18,850 --> 06:32:19,219 close MR. Wade Morgan's House 11778 06:32:19,219 --> 06:32:20,621 and he's here. You might want 11779 06:32:20,621 --> 06:32:24,221 to have something say. But we 11780 06:32:25,125 --> 06:32:28,125 have public comment. Look, I 11781 06:32:28,329 --> 06:32:30,729 think yes, equivalent living 11782 06:32:32,933 --> 06:32:34,935 as the city attorney Yeah, I 11783 06:32:34,935 --> 06:32:36,737 don't think you should take, 11784 06:32:36,737 --> 06:32:38,438 right, ok, sorry, that's going 11785 06:32:38,438 --> 06:32:39,206 to be passed. So it's it's a 11786 06:32:39,206 --> 06:32:39,773 there's there's legal aspects 11787 06:32:39,773 --> 06:32:42,743 to this that we have to be 11788 06:32:42,743 --> 06:32:45,743 careful about. For the record, 11789 06:32:47,247 --> 06:32:47,815 but we Cancun are can enter 11790 06:32:47,815 --> 06:32:50,815 city attorney talk to them 11791 06:32:52,919 --> 06:32:53,921 after just just or 11792 06:32:53,921 --> 06:32:55,921 conservative talkers. Only 11793 06:32:56,560 --> 06:32:56,623 please. Yes, happy express was 11794 06:32:56,623 --> 06:32:57,191 the day that this happened. 11795 06:32:57,191 --> 06:32:59,427 This was 4 and a half years 11796 06:32:59,427 --> 06:33:01,427 ago. Okay. 11797 06:33:03,298 --> 06:33:03,831 >> I pulled trigger. We have 11798 06:33:03,831 --> 06:33:06,267 that. There's a there's a 11799 06:33:06,267 --> 06:33:06,868 legal process we have to 11800 06:33:06,868 --> 06:33:08,569 follow and I understand this 11801 06:33:08,569 --> 06:33:11,569 is the first time we're 11802 06:33:12,207 --> 06:33:12,907 hearing this that I know of. 11803 06:33:12,907 --> 06:33:13,474 So I would I would ask you 11804 06:33:13,474 --> 06:33:15,750 kindly if you would split, 11805 06:33:15,750 --> 06:33:15,977 please speak with our city 11806 06:33:15,977 --> 06:33:16,611 attorney so that the 11807 06:33:16,611 --> 06:33:18,747 communications can flow in the 11808 06:33:18,747 --> 06:33:20,280 correct way. Commissioner 11809 06:33:20,280 --> 06:33:23,280 Haskell, did you have any 11810 06:33:24,753 --> 06:33:25,620 other concerns about 11811 06:33:25,620 --> 06:33:28,200 >> Well, yes, because I 11812 06:33:28,723 --> 06:33:29,356 thought I 11813 06:33:29,356 --> 06:33:29,924 >> a commitment from the legal 11814 06:33:29,924 --> 06:33:32,924 department that there be no 11815 06:33:33,361 --> 06:33:34,529 more postponements. 11816 06:33:34,529 --> 06:33:36,929 >> That's about the code 11817 06:33:37,933 --> 06:33:38,567 matter. This is about a 11818 06:33:38,567 --> 06:33:39,201 separate issue. I can explain 11819 06:33:39,201 --> 06:33:43,401 it to offline. I don't want to 11820 06:33:46,675 --> 06:33:48,430 explain it. And create quasi 11821 06:33:48,430 --> 06:33:50,443 judicial issue. I understand 11822 06:33:52,880 --> 06:33:55,818 the I don't believe that. But 11823 06:33:55,818 --> 06:33:58,620 the spirit by request more no 11824 06:33:58,620 --> 06:33:59,540 more postponement commissioner 11825 06:33:59,540 --> 06:33:59,688 changed. 11826 06:33:59,688 --> 06:34:03,288 >> Sister, I hear you loud and 11827 06:34:03,859 --> 06:34:07,459 clear. And I share your deep 11828 06:34:07,930 --> 06:34:09,930 frustration. 11829 06:34:10,232 --> 06:34:10,766 >> But if we have an 11830 06:34:10,766 --> 06:34:12,766 incomplete quasi judicial 11831 06:34:15,638 --> 06:34:16,105 record. 11832 06:34:16,105 --> 06:34:18,505 >> Then there is the 11833 06:34:18,941 --> 06:34:19,508 possibility a court will say 11834 06:34:19,508 --> 06:34:22,508 starting over again, do not 11835 06:34:26,549 --> 06:34:27,830 collect $200. And so as and 11836 06:34:27,830 --> 06:34:30,152 Powell double as it is. I 11837 06:34:30,152 --> 06:34:30,687 understand you wait. Issue 11838 06:34:30,687 --> 06:34:33,687 raised. I heard about it 11839 06:34:37,260 --> 06:34:39,950 today. And if we don't give it 11840 06:34:39,950 --> 06:34:39,662 some consideration, we could 11841 06:34:39,662 --> 06:34:42,662 be criticized and have the 11842 06:34:44,734 --> 06:34:45,368 outcome take even longer. 11843 06:34:45,368 --> 06:34:47,768 Frustrations were horses. We'd 11844 06:34:48,671 --> 06:34:49,339 all have arrived. 11845 06:34:49,339 --> 06:34:49,806 >> we're we're getting more 11846 06:34:49,806 --> 06:34:50,407 credits. An appellate 11847 06:34:50,407 --> 06:34:53,407 procedure for your law school 11848 06:34:53,809 --> 06:34:54,877 degree. So that's good. 11849 06:34:54,877 --> 06:34:55,512 >> I know she's this is 11850 06:34:55,512 --> 06:34:58,512 appellate procedure and or see 11851 06:34:58,782 --> 06:34:59,516 one on 11852 06:34:59,516 --> 06:35:00,150 >> Okay. So can we call the 11853 06:35:00,150 --> 06:35:03,186 roll on the vote on the motion 11854 06:35:03,186 --> 06:35:03,687 to postpone to OCTOBER one. 11855 06:35:03,687 --> 06:35:05,687 >> Commissioner Carey, 11856 06:35:06,656 --> 06:35:07,257 Commissioner Castillo. This is 11857 06:35:07,257 --> 06:35:10,393 for put to postpone this item 11858 06:35:10,393 --> 06:35:12,496 to OCTOBER. 1st. Commissioner 11859 06:35:12,496 --> 06:35:14,496 Haskell. Commissioner Lee, 11860 06:35:14,665 --> 06:35:17,650 yes, commissioner mascot. Yes. 11861 06:35:17,267 --> 06:35:18,368 Commissioner Ross Yes. Mayor 11862 06:35:18,368 --> 06:35:19,100 Coffman. Yes. And we are 11863 06:35:19,100 --> 06:35:22,100 adjourning the Everyone have a