[0:00] 9, 2026 Town of Kildo Hills Board of Commissioners meeting. I call this [0:05] meeting to order and invite everyone to please stand and join me in the pledge [0:08] of >> allegiance. [0:12] I alian to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which [0:18] it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice [0:24] for all. [0:31] Everyone is welcome to please join me in a moment of silence. [0:49] All right. Our next item on the agenda is our [0:54] agenda approval. We have an agenda before us. [0:57] » I'll make a motion to approve the agenda. [0:59] » I'll second. >> We have a motion and a second. Any [1:02] further discussion? Hearing none, all in favor, please [1:05] indicate by saying I. >> I. [1:07] » We have an agenda. >> All right. Now is the time we set aside [1:12] for public comment. This is an opportunity for anyone in the audience [1:15] to address the board on any topic of their choosing that pertains to the [1:19] town. We do ask that you when you're called upon approach the podium speaking [1:23] through the microphone. Identify yourself by name and address. There will [1:26] be no debates. Please keep your comments to three minutes if you're speaking as [1:30] an individual or five minutes if you are speaking on behalf of a group. The floor [1:36] is open if anybody would like to take advantage of this time. [1:47] » Hello. Hey, I'm Katie Morgan. I live in Collington. Um, please ma'am. [1:52] » I'm sorry. >> Your address? 101 Maddox Crossing. [1:56] You're welcome. Um, so I came out tonight just because I had I guess a [2:00] question um and a comment, two things. I was out. I'm a big proponent of the disc [2:05] golf course. I think we all know that here. I was out playing disc golf the [2:09] other day and um I felt Terry, you know, he was really a big supporter of the [2:15] disc golf course and it just made me start thinking about everything and I [2:19] was like, you know, I called Bob Sanders today and he's the um Nag's head [2:24] commissioner and also one of the heads of the disc golf club which is highly [2:29] successful, hugely popular. People come here to play disc golf. Anyways, the [2:33] point of the story is that I was playing. I called him. I said, "Hey, [2:37] wasn't there weren't there all kinds of um markings out on this course because I [2:41] thought that it was going to be considered that y'all were going to [2:43] build a pavilion and and a parking lot and some things like that." And I just I [2:48] guess my question was if anything like that was happening. Um, and also I [2:53] remember Bob had mentioned that there was going to be a committee possibly um, [2:57] formed with the local disc golf club just to kind of make sure that [3:01] everybody, you know, thought everything was going well. And I he had said that [3:04] nobody had reached out to him about that. So I didn't know if maybe if that [3:08] committee was still happening. And then my comment was, wouldn't it be, this is [3:16] just something I thought out there. Wouldn't it be amazing and awesome if we [3:19] did name like the big pavilion after Terry or and honor it because I know [3:24] that was a huge thing. I talked to him a lot on the phone about it. Um I don't [3:27] know just a thought and like I said just questions because I remember seeing um I [3:32] can't think of the markings out there on the course a while ago. So yeah, that [3:36] was all. Thank you. >> Thank you. [3:42] » I saw another hand pop up. [3:48] Hello, my name is Kathleen Wnooki, 313 Cameron Street. Um, good evening. I'm [3:54] here today on behalf of the League of Women Voters, wanting to um, present you [4:00] guys with the 2026 Citizens Guide. This is a guide that's filled with all kinds [4:04] of information, state, federal, um, local government information, election [4:10] information, all kinds of of things that people like. Um, this is our 37th year [4:18] presenting them and we're in the midst right now of distributing and I I get a [4:24] little waverly when I speak in public so excuse me. We're right now distributing [4:28] 6,400 um throughout Dair County from Duck to Hatteris Village um to mainland [4:34] Rono Island um and you can find them in libraries at the towns at at businesses [4:39] all throughout. wanted to come out here to present these to you all and also [4:43] thank the town for their gracious gracious contribution. We have sponsors [4:48] on the back that have helped make this happen. That's financially as well as [4:52] town employees have answered questions to make sure that this is the most [4:56] accurate information possible. So, the the League of Women Voters, just so you [5:01] guys know, is a nonpartisan political organization that encourages informed [5:06] and educated active participation in um government and we influence public [5:13] policy through education and advocacy and this is part of our process. [5:18] Membership is also open to anyone of voting age, men and women. So, thank [5:22] you. The town of Kilop Hills, >> who shall hand? [5:26] » Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. [5:31] » Would anybody else like to speak at this first [5:34] » public comment time? [5:39] » All right. Uh seeing nobody else, we'll close public comment. Uh response to [5:45] public comment. Um Katie, I'm so happy to hear that you enjoyed disc golf. I [5:50] think it I think our board wholeheartedly agrees with you that it [5:52] is a wonderful resource that we certainly prioritize. [5:57] Um improvements to the disc golf course has been a priority of ours for a long [6:01] time. We're still looking for ways to incorporate those in future planning and [6:06] future in capital investments. Um you know that that hasn't changed. I don't [6:12] have a can I give you exact timeline where we're going to break ground and do [6:15] things not today. But uh that is definitely something that's been on [6:20] important to us and hasn't changed for quite a long time. Uh [6:26] to my knowledge at this time there is no committee in discussion for [6:30] improvements. uh talking about the Terry's legacy and [6:34] committee work. the the Westside group invested lots of time and I think we [6:38] have some Westside Group members maybe here um really looking into that and and [6:43] prioritizing you know pedestrian uses and and really [6:49] maximizing that space as a while and in regards to you know potentially naming a [6:54] future improvement after Terry's memory I think that is definitely something [6:59] that's on our list is definitely top of mind for us we're just going kind of [7:05] when that opportunity arises, take advantage of it. But yes, Terry hasn't [7:11] gone far from our hearts and minds and won't and that won't happen. Um, [7:18] Kathleen, I love those books. [7:22] It's a they're a wonderful resource to share and have around Dair County. [7:31] and they uh you know I'm glad that we the league keeps this I mean 37 years is [7:36] I didn't know it's that long that's rather impressive to have uh this [7:41] resource out there for folks to have so thank you and thank the lead for all [7:45] their all their good work any other response to [7:50] » I would just say that uh definitely agree something in this town will be [7:54] named after Terry Gray uh I'm sure most everybody agrees with that in this room. [8:00] So, we'll do something for for him for sure. And that's that might be that [8:05] might be as good as any. But yeah, thank you. [8:08] » Hey, mayor. Um, and I'll also address the uh the stakes you're talking about. [8:13] We recently had the property surveyed. Kind of step one getting the ball [8:15] rolling and what we're doing at Bum Track. Uh, we had the property surveyed. [8:18] The last survey that was done was 2008. So, there's disc off there. There's a [8:22] lot more going on there. Um, edge of waters changed, wetlands have changed. [8:26] So we got the property uh new boundary survey and we also got a new wetland [8:30] delineation which was just approved by the core of engineers. Um that's good [8:33] for five years. So now we can kind of start the concept planning planning [8:36] stages. Um really what do we want to see there? So mapping the holes of disc golf [8:42] and what's actually there and being used was important to really see what other [8:45] kind of space we have and how other things may work. So, um, we'll be [8:49] looking for services for some concept design and stuff that we'll bring back [8:52] to the board and then that'll be opened up, you know, in a public setting. So, [8:56] that's kind of where we where we are and where we're going. [8:59] » Thank you, Cameron. >> Any other response? Public comment? [9:05] » No, sir. >> All right. Seeing none, we'll move [9:08] along. Uh, any ongoing business? >> All right, we can move along. New [9:12] business, item number one, proposed amendment to chapter 93. Uh nuances [9:19] ordinance 93.01 certain conditions declared nuisances nuances uh clarity [9:26] clarify business code compliance cameras. [9:29] » Yes, thank you. Tonight you do have a a proposed amendment to 9301J [9:34] and this is really more housekeeping. This was identified by staff that the [9:38] current regulations do not address the appropriate nuisances that are [9:42] associated with building code compliance issues. Uh the proposed amendment [9:46] clarifies that all construction that poses a risk to public safety are [9:50] considered a nuisance. And this is the following language as you can see on the [9:53] screen. Uh building code compliance. This will include any any structure or [9:57] construction including addition, alteration, repair, and or remodel that [10:01] are not compliant with the North Carolina building code effective on the [10:04] date of their construction or have not been permitted in coordinates with North [10:07] Carolina building code presenting a risk to public health or safety. Staff [10:11] recommends the board of commissioners approve the amendment as presented. And [10:14] I'm happy to answer any questions on particulars if you have any. [10:21] » Looks sorry. >> Go ahead. [10:24] » We're just kind of clearing up the language like the dur language of this, [10:27] but in practice it's not going to change. [10:30] » It it's not going to change a lot. It's going to it's going to help us out. For [10:33] example, um if parking lot light poles fall down, there's exposed wiring, [10:38] » right? >> That's a public health and safety [10:40] nuisance. Our ordinance right now really only is catered to decks, stairs, [10:44] handrails. There's a lot there's a lot of other things out there that that [10:48] » if if we're really trying to get these things accomplished, it'll be a tool [10:51] that will be helpful. >> Um we, you know, we can cite people for [10:54] violations of the electrical code and things of that nature. But when we're [10:58] talking nuisances, this is something, you know, that it's got to really fall [11:01] in that box of, you know, presenting a risk to public health or safety. But [11:06] it's a it's really a housekeeping amendment to address some of [11:09] » these before. Yeah. >> Yeah. Got it. Thank you. [11:14] » Parking lot light poles are a good example. [11:16] » Yeah. The >> those metal metal entities exposed to [11:21] the elements tend to deteriorate faster here than other places. [11:25] » And it's not always in and it's not always um exterior. You know, if [11:28] somebody >> uh you know, guts an entire house and [11:31] does a lot of electrical work and we're made aware of it. Um that's that's scary [11:35] for the people in in the home and also the neighbors. So, uh, you know, this [11:39] this just helps protect protect our town. So, [11:43] » all right. Well, um, welcome a motion for any further discussion if we have [11:48] it. >> I'll make a motion to approve the [11:50] proposed amendment to chapter 93 nuisances 93.01J [11:57] certain conditions declared. You say nuances. [12:01] » There's nuances of this. >> This can be pretty tricky. [12:06] » The nuances of So there you go. [12:11] » I'll second. >> Do we have any further discussion? [12:15] Hearing none, all in favor, please indicate by saying I. [12:18] » I. >> I. [12:19] » All right. Very good. Thank you. Now we'll move on to new business item [12:25] number two, appointments and nominations. Item A, possible [12:28] appointment to fill vacancy on the board of commissioners. Um, Mr. Odell, I'll [12:34] turn proceedings over to you. [12:44] Mayor and commissioners, good evening. [12:49] » At your January 12th, 2026 meeting, the board unanimous unanimously approved the [12:54] timeline and process by which to build the vacancy created by the death of [12:58] sitting commissioner Terry Grace, Senior on November 27th, 2025. [13:04] As part of the process, interested residents had to submit an application [13:07] by February the 2nd, 2026. And then my office then transmitted [13:12] those applications to you for review in which you as individuals could then [13:18] meet with the applicants that were qualified, which all that we forwarded [13:24] um over to you to be considered this evening. [13:35] As part of this evening's process, you will the board staff recommended and the [13:40] board will be conducting a nomination and ballot process which has been [13:44] utilized by the board which has been adopted and utilized by the board for [13:48] the last two or three vacancies that were created by the board uh over over [13:54] the several years. So what is going to occur is I will [13:59] entertain a motion or excuse me a nomination [14:03] and as pure as per your rules of procedure any nomination requires a [14:10] second. So that means that if I would nominate Casey Barnell if he were [14:14] qualified. >> Oh boy. [14:18] » Luckily he is not. He like I live in Kittyhawk. [14:23] Um >> then if I had a nomination I would there [14:27] a second would be required for the person to be considered. [14:33] One thing that as from staff's point of view which I would like to just happen [14:38] to comment is that it was my honor and privilege to read all these applications [14:43] and I do not I couldn't make the choice myself. You [14:48] have an amazing pool of citizens who are interested in serving. [14:55] Those who have submitted applications are as follows. Zachary Edwards, William [14:59] Foxwell, Terry Gray Jr., Bill Kingston, Justin O Sullivan, Timothy Owens, Nancy [15:05] Rickenbach, Marie Riierro. I hope I got that right. Thank you. Ron Simon, Gina [15:11] Southol, and John Tor. However, since the time of submission of [15:16] applications, Mr. Tyler's withdrawn his name from consideration. [15:20] What will now occur is I have ballots set with names of the citizens which I [15:26] will hand you after there are nominations any nominations and seconds [15:30] for the position to fill the vacancy on the board of commissioners. So I will [15:34] entertain any nominations as presented. >> Thank you Michael. Uh before we jump [15:39] into this I just would like to re kind of echo uh Mr. Adele sentiments of the [15:45] high quality of applicants that we had to choose from and how lucky and pleased [15:50] we are as a board that have such talented qualified people who want to [15:56] serve and or want to serve for the right reasons. I think there's a lot of folks [16:00] who genuinely love our town and want to be a part of this board to help make it [16:04] better. And I enjoyed all of the interviews I had with several candidates [16:09] getting to know everybody. And uh as Mr. Odell said, "You guys didn't make this [16:14] easy on us at all." So, it definitely is a tough tough tough choice. [16:21] That said, >> I'll make a motion to um nominate Ron [16:26] Sidman. >> I'll second that motion. [16:28] » All right, we have a motion and we have a second. [16:33] What are >> there any other nominations? [16:37] » Yes. I move to nominate Marie Rajira as commissioner. [16:48] Is there a second? [16:56] Are there any other nominations? [17:00] Okay. [17:05] I will now hand out your pallet and then I'll explain the process. [17:21] » Thank you, sir. [17:30] » Under North Carolina state law, there are no secret ballots. [17:34] What will occur is just a moment I will ask you to please complete this ballot [17:42] which is ballot number one. I made extras just in case. It has a listing of [17:47] every name of every qualified person and applicant was which is listed. [17:54] What will occur for the office of the clerk once those votes are made? I will [17:58] collect them and tally the result and make an announcement. These ballots will [18:03] then be on file for the public to enter to inspect at their convenience and they [18:10] will remain in my possession until the minutes of this meeting are approved in [18:14] which at that time by state statute they can be destroyed. So as a result of this [18:19] ballot um a vote must be made and your signature [18:25] must be at the bottom of it. So, also just to make you aware, there's only [18:31] been one actual nomination that is made and that is for Ron Seidman. Uh, Mr. [18:37] Riierro had a nomination, but there was no second. So, technically, procedurally [18:43] through Robert's rules of order, it dies for lack of a second. So, that is not an [18:48] option to vote. I apologize. Rules of Robert. [18:53] So, if you will please make your nom if you will please make your vote, sign [18:56] your ballot and then I will collect them momentarily. [19:05] And while they are voting, staff would just like to turn all the applicants [19:09] attention to the fact that um the board does uh has instructed us and reminded [19:15] us to share with you all that um we will be providing a we'll be sending out an [19:21] application for our boards and committees for our various boards and [19:24] committees that we do have. Um and uh the board has asked us to make sure that [19:30] you have copy of that to please consider that also. [19:46] Thank you. [20:09] Offic Town clerk sees that there are four votes for Ron Sidman. [20:15] » So, [20:18] » congratulations, Mr. Sidman. >> Congratulations, [20:21] » Commissioner Elect Commissioner Point. >> Congratulations. [20:29] » All done. >> Thank you, Mayor and Board. [20:32] All right. Congratulations, sir. [20:37] » All right. We can move on to Pardon. [20:46] » Yes. Item B. Um, so we're not done with our [20:51] appointments and nominations tonight. We have a board of adjustment alternate [20:55] member seat available and I'll open the floor floor up for discussion for that [21:01] as well. Unless anybody has any objections, I would like to move to [21:07] nominate James Andrew Carlton as an alternate to the board of adjustment. [21:12] » I'll second. >> We have a motion and a second. Any [21:15] further discussion? >> Hearing none. All in favor, please [21:19] indicate by saying I. >> I. Congratulations to Mr. Carl. [21:26] » All right. Um, next item on the agenda is committee reports. Anybody have any [21:32] committee reports to share? >> No for me, sir. [21:38] » Um, the Coastal Resource Advisory Council met a week and a half ago, I [21:43] believe. I had a medical appointment that I had to attend in Virginia, so I [21:47] wasn't able to attend, but I did listen to all six hours of [21:53] the meeting on 1.5. So, um and it was still like almost six hours. Um [22:02] obviously there's a lot um with what's happening down south. Most of the [22:07] meeting um referred to that hardened structures. The science panel is coming [22:12] up with um a presentation which should happen in April. So, um, I'll keep [22:19] everyone updated on that, but nothing specific to Kota at the moment. [22:26] » Wow. Four hours, six hours for this. >> It was like five and a half even with it [22:33] sped up on YouTube. Yes. But it's it's two days of me. I mean, it's two days of [22:38] meetings. So, it's >> any other committee reports? All right. [22:46] Commissioner's agenda. Nothing on mine. Nothing. [22:53] All right. Uh mayor's agenda. I have uh one one item [22:58] this evening. And uh Captain Carter, I'd like to please invite you to the podium [23:04] to discuss our uh kind of a new idea that's recently come about Operation [23:10] Ride Safe. >> Good evening, Mayor, Commissioners. Miss [23:13] Diaz. Um, Operation Ride Safe was something we were asked to look into for [23:19] ebikes. Um, yeah, there's a quite a few of them on our multi-use paths now, [23:25] sidewalks, whichever way you want to prefer it. Um, and it's a shared space [23:29] and we our main goal is to figure out how to share it uh as safely as possible [23:33] with everybody. So, our COP officer, Anthony Lane, has uh put something [23:38] together uh more in lines with education and with talking to our juveniles. uh [23:43] juveniles create a another issue for the stops and those kinds of things. So, [23:47] we're trying to go about it as as democratically as possible with the [23:51] parents, the schools, and having the uh having them kind of police their own so [23:56] that uh it just comes out easier for the children and for everybody that's going [24:01] to share these spaces. Uh so, he's doing that with uh he's meeting with the [24:05] school resource officers, trying to meet with the principles. He's spending time [24:09] out on Bay Drive if it's nothing more than like, you know, asking them to make [24:12] sure they wear a helmet, make sure they they share uh that they they drive as sa [24:17] or ride as safe as possible. And um and just being out in the public to make [24:23] everyone aware that that that we do have to share these spaces and and do it as [24:26] safely as possible. Um that's pretty much the the overall of it. you know, [24:32] we're we're compiling data, talking to the kids and talking to the schools, um, [24:37] and trying to ensure that all the ebikes are actually ebikes. And for those, [24:41] we'll be trying to make sure that we get to the parents and those things first, [24:45] um, to give them a chance to correct all of that on their own. And then I'll I'll [24:49] be happy to take any questions from you um, that you may have. [24:57] I'll just say I I believe wholeheartedly in the in the kids of this town. Uh and [25:02] there's some, you know, they're they're really spectacular young men and women. [25:08] And I think that yes, with just simple education and working with them, not [25:13] against them, you're going to, you know, get the response you want. Uh because, [25:19] you know, uh again, we have really, you know, good school here, good good [25:24] parents, good families. Um and just don't want them to feel um like they're [25:31] being um attacked at the same time. Educate them. Obviously, helmets, we've [25:36] been we've been on that for a long time, but certainly on a on an ebike. and then [25:41] uh uh the speed that that goes and then just educating them about sharing the [25:45] multi-use path and all the various things. They're not drivers yet. They [25:50] don't understand necessarily everything. How to yield, how to stop. So, uh and [25:55] the more education I believe will be that'll work. [25:58] » That's what we're hoping for because this span of kids is not just say high [26:01] school kids. Uh I've met them as young as in fifth grade I think that officer [26:07] Lane has already and spanning through there. So there there's a huge spread of [26:11] of age groups and maturity uh amongst that and that's the best way right now [26:16] we can figure out how to you know keep everybody in the town happy and safe. [26:20] » Oh yeah many motorcycles you know in in all for all intents and purposes [26:26] » and some of those we'll be looking at to ensure that they meet the laws of North [26:31] Carolina as best we can. >> Oh yeah. Thank you and everybody uh with [26:35] the police department for putting this together and I think Officer Lane is a [26:39] wonderful representative to be interacting with kids. I've attended a [26:44] bike safety course he did for Cub Scouts and he really has the people skills to [26:50] relate to young people of all ages and I think uh you know having him out [26:54] modeling the right behaviors and teaching kids how to handle these things [26:57] safely is a great way to invest his and our our town's time. [27:03] Thank you. >> He is and so far he is he's been doing [27:05] it at least twice a day right now trying to reach all of these kids. [27:09] » Awesome. >> That's good. [27:09] » Very good. >> Yes, sir. [27:11] » Thank you. >> Thank you. [27:12] » Thank you, Captain. >> Thanks, Captain. [27:17] » All right. Um, town manager agenda. >> Yes, sir. I do have something this [27:21] evening. Um, as the board knows, we currently lease the property that the [27:26] Chamber of Commerce building is on, and that lease is um coming up for one of [27:30] its renewals. Um, the board has indicated to staff that they are [27:34] interested in leasing a portion of the old town hall fire station to Mustang [27:41] Music Outreach Program, which is a 501c3 nonprofit. Um, we've been working with [27:47] them um on providing community- based music education um outreach and [27:53] relatable charity events that benefit the visitors and the red um residents. [27:58] So through the consensus with the board, we've been exploring different options [28:02] with that. What we're presenting you with this evening is the information [28:07] that's governed by general statute 168272, [28:10] which requires a 30-day public notice period before municipality may enter um [28:16] consider entering into lease arrangements. And that's simply what [28:20] this is. is putting the public on notice um that we look are looking at these two [28:25] um leases. The Mustang music outreach would be a new lease and the chamber [28:31] would just be a continuation and these will be on on future agendas [28:36] for your actions. Thank you. >> Thank you. [28:39] If I could add to that too, just um under a just to clarify or add some [28:46] additional um information as to why we were um requesting that that you all [28:52] seek this out. Um John and I have have been working on stay the child and one [28:56] of the biggest outcomes in the surveys for stay the child was recreation [29:01] outside of sports. You know, we're this county is really good at recre sports, [29:06] that kind of thing in terms of recreation and we lack a little bit in [29:11] in outside of sports or even alternative, you know, we have great [29:14] alternative sports obviously, but music, fine arts, that kind of thing. We just [29:19] don't have as many opportunities. And so that was one thing that we saw through [29:23] that survey in addition to the parks and recck survey. So just it comes with a [29:28] little data behind it. >> Yeah. instead of us just decid like [29:31] saying we you know there there's some there's some backup to it. really the [29:36] decision to get to this point, like you said, really started at the state of the [29:40] child conference two years ago >> and a need that was identified that uh [29:45] for young people to kind of have more options in music and the arts and such [29:50] where it's an opportunity and to leverage a portion of that building for [29:54] this purpose, I think, and to partner with an established nonprofit who has uh [30:01] give them a space to grow and they have a lot of trust and and use already as a [30:06] natural partnership. So, we're Thank you, town manager, for [30:11] » Yes, sir. >> moving this forward. [30:12] » Thank you for the guidance. >> Do you need any You don't need a motion [30:16] or >> No, ma'am. We'll just continue with um [30:20] working with Mustain and town attorneys >> working with us on the lease [30:27] » and we'll go ahead and publish. >> Yes. [30:28] » Correct. >> Yes, sir. [30:30] » All right. Uh town attorney's agenda. I have nothing commission. Good to see [30:35] you. >> Good to see you too, Ky. Um consent [30:37] agenda. >> Yes, sir. Um the minutes from the [30:40] February 9th, 2026 meeting, the January 2026 monthly report. Um a budget [30:47] amendment to appropriate um monies for the Ring Central phone system. Um I hope [30:53] you had an opportunity to read Caleb's um memo that explains what we're doing [30:58] and and why. um recommendation for audit services and continuing the services [31:03] through 2028. The firm DMJPS LLC, formerly Pottering Company. Don't [31:11] know why they changed that, but um they've worked with us over the past [31:16] several years and been very beneficial for the town and helping us implement a [31:21] number of complicated accounting standards. Um we're looking for the [31:25] contract for fiscal year 2526 audit and then it would have the [31:31] proposal for estimates for the um next two fiscal years and approval of the [31:36] consent agenda would authorize the manager to execute the contract [31:39] agreement audit services for 2526 and approve the firm's continuing [31:44] services through 2728. Staff recommends consent agenda approved [31:49] as presented. I'll make a motion to approve the [31:53] consent agenda. >> Second that motion. [31:57] » We have a motion and a second. Any further discussion? [32:01] » Hearing none. All in favor, please indicate by saying I. [32:04] » I. >> I. [32:06] » All right. So, uh, now is the time set aside for [32:10] our second opportunity for public comments. Uh if anybody would like to [32:16] take the podium for any other topics, discussions or questions, um by [32:22] all means, now's your chance. [32:28] All right. Looking at Matt over here. But um seeing [32:33] no takers, we'll close our second uh public comment session. There's nothing [32:38] to respond. So I'll entertain a motion to adjurnn. [32:41] » So moved. >> Second. Any discussion? All in favor, [32:45] please indicate by saying I. >> I. [32:47] » I. [32:53] I give you this key for it.