just before you start can you maximize
that window
yeah okay perfect
thanks maurice
all right uh good evening folks welcome
to the special meeting of cambridge
kimberly city council for march 21st
the first full day of spring the sun
sean
and uh kyle is in search of the dream
we're well we'd like to help you out any
way we can
a reminder to staff that are on uh
that are dialing in on webex if when you
are speaking please make sure and turn
your video on
um any further
instructions maurice we set the rock
are you at a campground somewhere troy
at the hockey game
i thought i thought we fixed bandwidth
at the arena
okay thanks for the heads up on that
okay without further ado i would like to
call this meeting to order here on the
homelands of the tahoe peoples and ask
maurice if we have any late items
there is no late item mr mayor
all right hearing none could i have a
mover to adopt the agenda councilor
mcbain moves and counselor kiddo seconds
all those in favor
that motion is carried
and we have basically one item at this
special meeting tonight and that is the
final operating and capital budget
changes for the 2022 to 2026 five-year
financial plan
we have been deliberating for what seems
like well it has been many months
and we're getting down to the short
strokes
i know council has read through the
package it's pretty
thick uh and it's pretty detailed uh
thanks jim for
uh kind of getting all of this
information in a way that we can easily
understand and know what our decisions
need to be here tonight
if it's okay with you maurice the
resolutions that we have here tonight of
which we have about uh five or six i
noticed in the presentation jim you have
included the resolution for the section
as we finished so we'll just deal with
those as we roll through the
presentation that sounds good mr mayor
that the first one receiving for
information if we could get that out of
the way that'd be great and then the
rest are in there yeah okay so the uh
so receipt of the uh of the report
counselor dallas moves counselor mcbain
seconds all those in favor
that motion is carried
all right uh over to you jim uh so
before i do that uh scott uh thanks for
attending tonight
i think for those of you who've seen
scott's on a few days vacation
he's dialing into us tonight from
kelowna
uh hope everything is going well with
the mini holiday scott and thanks for
tuning in
take it away jim
thank you mr mayor
and thanks it was good to hear that uh
you thought the package was easy to easy
to read easy to follow apologize for the weight of it there is a lot of
information in here but uh
it's time that we we get through this
stuff and
move on to preparation of the bylaws
so starting with the the meeting agenda
once we get the presentation up here
i'll flip through the slides
but uh what's on the agenda tonight is
just uh there's a bunch of slides
recapping where we've been how we got to
this point
discussion about financial plan
foundation
proposed changes to the operating base
budget
a discussion about the aquatic center
parcel tax
proposed sewer operating budget changes
and then a discussion on the kaplan
non-capital
budget amounts
and as council's aware the last number
of pages of the presentation
is um
in appendix one is a complete listing of
all the capital and non-capital projects
that we we plan to complete over the
next five years
we're not going to go through those in
detail but if there are any of those
once we
get to that point in the presentation or
as we're moving through if council has
questions about those please
feel free to to ask
doesn't look like it's letting me scroll
maurice unless
did you do that or did i do it
okay
so
the next slide is is budget recap and
i'm not going to go through this it's
really just provided for ease of
reference for council i'm just showing
the resolutions related to budget that
have been passed to this point
so unless there are any questions on
that we're going to skip right to page
13
in the next section
and the first slide in that
section is the the bright blue one
the neon colors deliberate
this is a
fairly
relevant slide that was brought forward
from the april 19 2021 budget
presentation
and really what it indicates is that
just given the fact that
the operating budget reductions in 2021
related to kobit 19 and the late hiring
of some new employees last year
um just a bit of foreshadowing that in
2022
to expect an increase that it's well in
excess of mpi just to be able to pay for
um getting back to normal and the
balance of the salaries for those
employees
so the next page is a discussion the
flat financial plan foundation
and it's just saying that uh the council
adopts a five-year financial plan every
year um year two that
plan forms the foundation for the new
five-year financial plan and that's
we're operating under year two the
authority year two until the new
five-year financial plan vial was
adopted
so year two of
the 21 21 to 2025 financial plan
we were anticipating an increase of 3.99
percent
and you can see the breakdown on that
1.9 was the mpi
the inflationary factor
uh there was 155 000 just about a 1.42
percent increase to fund the the new
positions in operations and planning
there was three there
and then there was 0.67 to move the
arenas back to full operating from their
reduced operating capacity under covid
so the next slide just uh it's just a
note saying that
the base the base budget is modified on an annual basis for a variety of
reasons that i've listed there
so the first section we're going to talk
about with regards to modifications that
the budget is to the
operating budget jim
mr mayor can we ask questions as we go
yeah please what's up
so just on the uh the financial plan
foundation uh the 0.6 the 73 000 to move
the arena budgets back to full operation
is there an offsetting revenue uh
associated with that
there is this this is the expenditure
component so that this is the net
component there were some actual
um wage savings as a result of the
closure extended closures of those
facilities okay cool this is the net
number yeah the 73k okay awesome thank
you
yeah i'm pleased if there's any anywhere
you'd like me to stop just uh speak up
so the first page of the
proposed general operating base budget
adjustments adjustments a couple pages
up there
council's
seen most of this stuff
at the december 6 budget meeting we went
through
all of the changes that are indicated as a recap of adjustments presented on
december 6th we
staff did not ask council for any
decisions on the operating budget at
that point in time because we had a
couple of big unknowns out there
those being the rcmp contract
the renewal of that and the non-market
change at that time we just had numbers
from the preview role so we now have the
completed assessment also those numbers
have have changed as you've
probably seen in the agreement here
so i'm going to start on the the next
page there where it notes in red new
adjustments identified since december
6th those are the ones that council
hasn't seen
unless there are any
questions about the the ones on december
6th
actually the one thing i will point out
on those is
the increase increased half-time edge
assistant position to full-time uh the
42-816 that's three lines down on the
top of that slide
we're obviously not going to hire that
person to start as of january 1st
the first realistic start date we
anticipate is may 1st so
that budget has been reduced as you'll
see a couple of slides up there's a
negative that brings that down to
14 272
dollars is an incremental expenditure in
2022
so on to the new items since january 2013
december 6
2021
the first two there are just in and out
the fire department has been successful
in obtaining uh a bunch of grant funding
over the last number of years for some
forest management projects
to help um
protect against wildfire in kimberley
so these are the projects that we've
received grants for that didn't get
completed by the end of 2021
um as council is aware it really depends
on the weather from year to year hot dry
summers they they can't burn they can't do that kind
of work so it gets carried over to the
next year so that's just the
expenditures the funding by grants
the next two
came about as a result of
the first first time rcmp collective
agreement being
entered into in august of last year
and i'm going to stop at a slide i've
got a little ways down here to talk
about the details but
associated with that as we've been
talking about for a couple years there
was a one-time retro payment
to the members
for the kimberley detachment
they haven't provided the final number
for that yet there's a couple of letters
attached at the end of this report
they're indicating that this this is the
top end of their
the estimate that they've provided for
planning purposes
is what they've said in the letter so
227 000 is the estimate of what we're
going to have to pay to the rcmp for
retro pay
and anticipating that this was going to
happen councils
put money in a reserve over the last
number of years and the
balance of that i think it's it's in the
presentation i think it's 441 000 or
something like that
so there's a retro pay and then there's
also an rcmp contract cost increase so
on the recommendation of the rcmp since
2016 which was the last time they had a
pay adjustment
we've been adding two and a half percent
a year
so
this edition of the 55 891
is
the difference between that that two and
a half percent a year and what we're
actually having to pay them in 2022
under the new collective agreement
and what i'm proposing and i'll talk
more about this later as well is that
because we're going to have a
fairly healthy balance over two hundred
thousand dollars left in that reserve
after the retro pay i'm proposing just given
um
the challenges we're having this year
with with the tax increase that we fund
that
out of the
reserve as well just for 2022
which would essentially defer a half
percent tax increase from this year to
next
and i i think that's reasonable given
the fact that that that reserve is
specific to our cmp
and it was built through
uh savings from that service over the
last five years so
and again i'll talk about that more a
little bit later
um i'm not going to go through each of
these in detail but again if you have any questions
most of the rest of these are fairly minor amounts
the larger ones i do have slides
later on just explaining justifying the
changes but the total proposed
adjustments as you'll see there
are 394 893
and a few slides up here you'll see that
the expenditures that are funded from
reserves bring that down to a fairly low
number
which is the amount that's being funded
from
general revenues
okay
so just to clarify the last line on this
particular slide
is what you were speaking about earlier
with the later start for the engineer is
that correct brings it down to the 14
000
yeah that's right the 28 544
extracted from that uh 42 000 there yeah so that's essentially bringing the
budget for that from a full year down to
eight months just given the fact that
we're part way through the year here
already
so again the first um
the first few slides uh following this
one
there's an explanation of the chemical
gardens
change there that's an in and out
but essentially what that is is
we were start historically we've been
paying kces to to manage the gardens
and with the announcement that they're
winding down that society
um we're just gonna we're gonna remove
that payment from the budget but then
we're gonna add it back in under parks
and facilities as an expenditure to
um hire somebody
for the city to hire somebody to look
after that
and the operations department is working
on a staff report as they indicated
previously to to bring back back to
council to have a larger discussion
about the longer term with that facility
see
with that um
with that new
park expert i like you know we will
probably have a better answer when the
assessment comes out but
um
would this person
be um
basically just bound to kaminko guard
would they just be
spread around everywhere could they be
used anywhere or was it just like a
kaminko gardens caretaker
i think the idea right now i i shouldn't
speak on nicole's behalf here but uh
i believe we're anticipating that that 76 000 will be to to look after
chemical gardens
at least until we get a feel for the
operation of that
but longer term uh that i think that
would certainly be an option to have
you know have an arborist or somebody on
staff
or a contractor to look after that
yeah i think um i saw somewhere in here
where we're going out to rfp
looking for somebody to do that so it
would be an independent contractor
that's right yeah
go ahead nigel
i'm really disappointed that we're even
talking about the options around coming
kaminko garden when we yet to see a
staff report
and i thought we were part of the
decision-making process i was even more
disappointed to be reading about it in
the media today without a staff report
now being able to weigh in as a council
so
don't like the way it's playing out
quite frankly
um i would have liked us to be
discussing it before i hit the media
can you expand on that nigel
yeah just the the comments about
rfps and potentially people running and
stuff i don't know any of those answers
but it's been discussed in the media
it's already hitting facebook and the
bulletin's written an article about it
so
yeah
i'm just uh i just think that was a
little bit um
premature uh or the staff report was
late i just think don't just just don't
enjoy the way this is playing out i
don't feel like as a council we really
are a part of it this seems to be
happening um behind the scenes that's
how it appears to me anyway
yeah
there was a previous staff report um
when there was discussions about kcds
winding down indicating that this would
be the
path forward for this year anyways until
there was a a bigger discussion on long
term
yeah yeah i i thought so too that early
on we said that the support that we had
provided uh would be there this year
because we weren't anticipating that uh that staff report was going to
be in in time
you know for that
so i think i think really
the question that we got from the media
was is kameko gardens going to be open
this year
and um
the answer was yes it is
what the long-term solution is or the
long-term future is for kamekal gardens
given what's underway we'll see but uh
you know for sure this year you know it
will be open
i don't think there was any intent to uh
i thought i thought we'd had that
conversation actually around the table
here uh much earlier on
back as part of the kcds discussion
can't
yeah i i see this as just maintaining
the status quo for one more year in the
staff report we'll be talking about ways
to change the status quo maybe or maybe
not
but i think that's going to be a
conversation the communities want to
going to want to be a part of and so
we're going to have to
think about how we get feedback from the
community as we move forward and look at
different options so yeah absolutely
and go ahead and that would be more of
my point that it is starting to be
played out in the media there's a lot of
misinformation happening on facebook a
lot of concern that's been raised
i just would have liked to have had more
information so i could respond to the
community and some of those concerns
that's all i'm saying here it's just i
would like to see a report i would like
more conversation before i hit the media
there's just too many unknowns out there
at the moment
further comments
okay
appreciate the comments
uh counselor keto chris memory is on the
line here and he's he's hearing that as
well so
these next few slides here i'm just
going to
flip through and if you if you want to
have some additional discussion on them
please let me know
you've seen these before at the december
6 meeting as well
the next few anyways
so the next one is the engineering
assistant gis tech so we're proposing to
move that from a current half time
position into a full-time position
that's shared between planning and
operations
the slide
following that is with regard to
retirement sick leave payouts
and this is just uh it's a liability
that the city is obligated to pay
until
these grandfather benefits are gone
essentially
they're funded from the general
operating surplus just given their
nature so they they don't have an impact
on the tax collection or the tax rates
from year to year
the next one is the cayenne commitment
and that's just the last year of the current three-year
commitment
um moving their revenue and expenditures
they're budgeted for 2022 into 2023
their their year
overlaps it runs from
july to june or june to july so it's
really just uh
it's just a timing adjustment
the next one 22
2022 election budget budget increase um
20 000 increase proposed there
related to potential impacts of of cobit
that's proposed to be funded from the
kobe 19 safe start safe restart grant
reserve so if it's not used it'll remain
in that reserve to be used for something
else
these next few slides here
parks irrigation maintenance
platzel and parks tree maintenance
they're fairly fairly straightforward i
believe the next slide on the forest
management program at zero net effect
i've already talked a little bit about
that
the next one is the rcmp contract retro
pay with 227 thousand dollars that we've
talked about
so again since since 2016 the rcmp
member salaries have been frozen and on
august 26 2021
their first ever collective agreement
was ratified
and i'm not entirely sure why it took
um so long for them to provide us with
the information
but uh on february 28 the mayor received
an email with a letter attached advising
of the
estimated range of retroactive payments
that you see there two hundred sixteen
thousand two hundred and twenty seven
thousand
and as noted earlier there's a balance
of four hundred and forty one thousand
dollars
in that uh rcmp contract reserve to to
pay that from so
there's fortunate planning there
the next slide is related we've
discussed this again this is the rcmp
contract cost adjustment so the
difference between what we budgeted and
what the rcmp are saying in their
march 4th letter to me which is also
attached to the report here
is 55 891 so that's the incremental
revenue we need to pay for for that
incremental cost
just something worth noting here
i as you'll note in the letter there
they provide a cost for the for eight
members uh 1.228 million dollars
as council's aware we on an annual basis
make a request to the rcmp to manage
that detachment to to seven members as
opposed to eight
and they've been accommodating um
i'm not sure when that started but since
i've been around anyways we've been
making that request
and
it's possible i suppose at some point in
time they're going to say you know we
need the full contingent here we need
the full eight members
and if and when that happens
at this point in time anyways uh that
it's about 152 000 per member
so if they were to come back and ask for
that we would be looking for that money
which is you know it's percent percent
and a half roughly tax increase
that's a good one
so jim if we use the reserves to fund
the 0.5 increase this year will there be
a double increase next year
a 0.5 and a 0.5 or
no
we've
i've noted on here they
they're telling us that the 2023 to 2027
estimates typically they provide us with
a five-year budget
we're not going to receive that until
may so it won't be received in time to
work that into the budget
but from 2022 forward it will just be
it'll be an incremental annual increase
again
so i i'm budgeting for 2.5
going forward
okay but we we budgeted for 2.5 for this
year and it was 0.5
too low
which makes me think
well the point five percent too low was
to catch us up since 2016.
so they hadn't received an increase
since 2016 so that
once once we're caught up to 2022 and
then we're just back into the regular uh
inflationary adjustments going forward
okay thank you yeah
i hope it's nice
uh the next slide
cayenne so jim just further
clarification on that so
uh this year we're going to fund that 55
000 out of the rcmp reserve but next
pardon me next year we'll need to fund
that out of taxes that's correct yeah yeah
it's it's really just essentially a
deferral um of that half percent
increase from this year to next year
in the hopes that we're not going to be
facing the same challenges this year
that we are
so the next slide
yeah happy to discuss it further if
no i i just have a rather pessimistic
outlook about each year going forward
and whether we'll actually see anything
relax but we'll see
yeah
time will tell
so the next slide the program kai and
extension extension
um
recently at the february 14th council
meeting council extended that that
initial three-year greet agreement with
the kimberley youth action network
by one year so this is just creating a
budget for that
it's uh sixty thousand dollars in
revenue fifty four thousand five hundred
in expenditures with which are split
fifty fifty between this year next given
the way that their fiscal year works
uh the 5500 difference is the
an administrative cost that's retained
by the city for the the cost for our
staff to look after that program
do the paperwork et cetera
so the next uh table here is where we
get into the the numbers
so the first green line there three three
lines down on the first top of that
table the 394 893 is what was brought
forward from that previous slide
the total of the changes to the
operating costs
the next section is
the amount of those costs that are going
to be covered from
the various reserves
so they're not affecting uh the increase
to the property tax rate
so the net of those two is 62
772 dollars which is the the net of the ask
for this year
which works out to a 0.58 tax increase
on the next slide
we've got um
the 3.99 percent that we discussed
earlier which is already built into year
two of the current five-year financial
plan
so we're adding the 0.58 percent for the
62 772
and then i'm also proposing to
increase the inflationary factor that we
had budgeted previous previously of 1.9
percent to 2.84
so that's an additional 0.94
bringing the total increase um for 2022 to 5.51
go ahead
councilman um i appreciate you
factoring that in jim um how confident
are you that that is enough um given
that uh
you know i think everybody's feeling the effects right now and this all signs
kind of point to
um
inflation going even higher so
just curious yeah it's
that's
it it's a tough one to be confident
about um at this point in time and
municipalities seem to be all over the
place i was able to find 18 municipalities
that i could find online that had either
communicated or approved their tax
increases
of those 18 10 of them were 5 or over
the highest was eight and the lowest was
2.75
um that eight was an outlier as was a
2.75 so
i mean that most of what you hear about
with inflation that the big um
components of those the the mpi cpis
that are are seeing a big hit these days
are our fuel and and food
and so
when you back that food component out
that the inflationary factor does drop
so i'm hopeful that this is going to be
enough i guess is what i'm saying but it
really you know given
we're still feeling the impacts of covid
with the supply chains challenges chain
challenges
the war in ukraine the cp strike i mean
it's
we don't know when it's going to end or
how how long he's
going to continue for but
yeah i feel you have your
finger on the pulse jim it was just uh
yeah just question thanks good question
and i was i was expecting it because
it's uh
it's a tough one to put your thumb on
this year
so
pardon me if i may jim
um
i guess
in inflation to a lot of people is
i mean costs are going up but the term
inflation is
fuzzy uh the fact is that if we have uh
in the past years if we had not taken
the two percent inflationary increase
that cumulatively over the years would
have meant that we would would have had
to take a reduction in service somewhere
in the services that we provide
uh inflation has to be paid for somehow
so it's either through taxes to keep
service levels where they are or we have
to look at reducing the service levels
and it's a really really difficult
challenge because nobody wants to see
service reductions
but at the end of the day we either do
that or you have to pay for them and i
think what we're seeing here in this in
this particular budget is
um you know a pretty good case scenario
when we see what's going on around us
um you know something it's not a
reduction in services um but it's also
you know a manageable increase that i
think most people would understand
at least i hope they do we'll find out i
hope so as well mr mayor and the real
saving grace for us with regards to
inflationary factor is the fact that
we're we're still working under
the wages that were negotiated in the
last round of collective bargaining so
we're we work with the weighted average
um when we're calculating that
inflationary adjustment so
2.84 it includes an increase of 2.18
percent for the wages which is
i think it's around 50 or 60 percent as
far as the the weighted portion of that part of the the index so
if if our wages were tied to a cpi like
a lotter r these days
we'd be talking a different number right
now but
that is helping us a lot
so the last section of that slide there
there's a small adjustment uh sixty six
thousand one hundred one dollar
reduction and that's a preliminary
number
uh related to non-market change and i'll
talk more about that in the coming
slides here
so reduction of point 0.06
to 5.45 so that's the proposed
increase to the the variable tax
collection or to the overall property
tax collection for 2022
these next few slides here uh speak to
this
just some more discussion about the
annual inflationary adjustment
so
the mpi that we have been using since
2016
it's based on a weighted average of
various expenditure categories within
the city's budget using
a bunch of conference board of canada
indices
and i've noted some of those
below for
what those indices are saying the
increase was from fourth quarter 2020 to
the end of 2021
so 11.23 for vehicles and equipment fuel
and oil 65.46
materials goods and services 11.23
natural gas 25.19
so if if we were to use
those indices i mean they just
they don't seem to reflect what we've
experienced over the last year we've
seen increases for sure
but
if we were to use those indices
we'd be looking at tax increase of over
eight percent to calculate the the
annual
inflationary factor so
what i've done is in place of
some of the indices or the amounts
prescribed by some of the indices i've
used the
increase to the canada's cpi over the
last year which was 4.8 percent
i've used 20 percent for fuel and oil
and then for the wages as discussed it's
at 2.18
so that's where that 2.84 got pushed out
from
so we are we are varying from
the typical mpi calculation this year we
do every year to a certain extent i
mean we've got negotiated wage increases
we'll use that as opposed to the indices
if we've got uh
the rates from tariffs and gas or bc
hydro as far as what they're increasing
by we'll use those rather than the in
the c number
so i just wanted council to be aware of
the fact that we've we varied from that
and that's where how that 2.84 was
arrived at
so it is
it's not the 1.9 that we included in the
budget last year you know we're
increasing it by almost a percent um to
get that into sea up
a bit but
the goal was to implement a reasonable
tax increase while wall respect while
still respecting the uh
the inflationary climate that we're in
right now
sorry joe go ahead
thanks jim i appreciate the update
one of the things that as you've been
briefing us on this that i've been
wondering about is um
use of reserve money if uh
if we do not uh if we are not successful
in some of our
grant applications for various things
one of them would be for example
wastewater treatment plant
and
the city
decides to
not pursue
that avenue for their foreseeable future
or other avenues
is there a chance you know given the
climate of inflation to use reserve
funds for as an emergency to help
make this more palatable for folks in
kimberley the tax increase yeah
um
i i always
kind of compare that it's that's kind of
like using your your kids education fund
to pay the mortgage payments i mean it's
you're you're
delaying the inevitable like sooner or
later
i mean you can use a hundred thousand dollars
say to get the tax increase down to um
a lower amount
but then you're you're having to make
that back in the next year i mean unless
you keep taking that hundred thousand
dollars out again and again and again to
the point where
you know you're getting close to
depleting your reserves
then
when your reserves are depleted then you
have to come up with that money so that
the ongoing annual expenditures
best practices to fund that from ongoing
annual revenues as opposed to a pot of
money in a reserve
so in in fact jim we're suffering a
little bit from that this year uh the
next slide which shows the
increases over the last three years
the two point two two zero percent in
2020 and 1.6 uh in 2021
those last two years of no increases
we've lost three percent to inflation
and had we taken our normal two percent
over those two years
we instead of 5.5 we'd be looking at a
um
a 2.5 percent increase this year
so to speak to your point you know we did what we thought under
the circumstances at the beginning of
covet was a good thing but we have to
eventually pay the piper for that and
this year is that year where we are
doing that
yeah that's a good point mr mayor on on
the next slide there you'll see that
as noted um so the last three years
we've had an average increase of one
point two seven percent while the pcc
cpi over that same period is
has grown by seven percent so
if we work that 5.45 into that as a
fourth year uh the four-year average
would be 2.31 which is
you know we're not far off from from
inflation there
so the
see here
so the next slide here is options to
reduce
the tax increase and
i'm hoping just given the discussion
that council is uh
gain some comfort with that number
but if we want to reduce that um as the
mayor spoke to a bit here we could uh
we could lower service levels elsewhere
in the general operating budget
uh we could defer reduce or eliminate
one or more of the proposed changes
um in total we're proposing you know
just over 60 thousand dollars in changes
so that would give us a little over half
a percent
we could increase increase general
operating budget revenue other than tax
revenue user fees permit license fees
or we could reduce contributions to the
general capital reserves as we've talked
about a little bit
one thing we have to remember we
2022 we collected about 14 million dollars in uh
revenue in about
10 and a half that almost 11 million
dollars was through property tax the
rest of that was through
um user fees a small community grant
business licenses that type of thing
and
we're not going to be getting that 5.45
percent on those we've got 2 built in
for the water and sewer user fees
there's also two percent built in there
for recreation fee increases but
some of that stuff small community grant
is an example we there there is no
inflationary factor built into that so
yeah it's just weighing in um
just a pining on on these options um
yeah i would really hesitate um reducing the contribution to our our
capital reserve i i just look at
you know we have done
i believe council over the last little
while has done a lot um to to get caught
up um on infrastructure projects and and
various things and we know we have some
huge ticket items as well um coming up
and uh and i and i really
i don't want to slow that momentum down
and and if we recall i think you know
some of you who've been on council a lot
longer than i have um
you know a lot of the stuff that we're
dealing with
is because the can got kicked down the
road for a long time
and we're trying to to fix that so i
would really caution us trying to
make a move like that um where we where
we uh
decrease those uh contributions because
i think we still have a long ways to go
officer oakley
yes i i do uh have a i would like to
comment on the user fees i i i have
never um
uh
you know
liked the um
some of the recreational facilities that
we have in our community not charging a
higher level
user fees i just personally feel user
fees there's room to move there to help
out
and
that that's always a tough one because
people are paying out of pocket and you
know they're paying tax increases it's
just one thing after another but it is
um
it is it seems to me uh to be fair to
some taxpayers and kimberley that don't
use the facilities
that don't have to pay the user fee and
that there would be a higher user fee
for the folks that are using them
the other thing that i wanted to comment
on
was
the regional district
possibly
you know having a little bit of a larger
role and uh some of our facilities
possibly as they do in other communities
so to help out and uh
because people who come in from the
region to use our facilities
and
are not paying a local municipal tax
so a user fee to me is something i i
would i would love to look at that um i
think that's fair
and
it's needed now it's uh to look at that
heart and to see if that can help out
make a difference
thank you
thanks daryl um
counselor dallas go ahead
uh i would caution against uh
going too hard with the user fees simply
because
with the increased cost of living
particularly that increase to fuel
um
you know that could disproportionately
take the the lower income folks and
really price them out of
those facilities
uh
my main thing that i'd like to say is
thank you jim and the rest of staff that
have helped you with this because
uh you know
you've carried the ball you haven't you
know in the last couple years we've
borrowed from peter to pay paul and
we're
obviously catching up with that today
but um
you've done an incredible job you know
and uh
thanks to you and all the staff
yeah we really appreciate that i think
we're all looking forward to getting
back to a normal year next year when
we're we're not having to to do that
back and forth thank you
yeah when you mention normal year i
think that's the other thing i think we
need to remember that there's a lot of
cause and effect here as we're coming
out of covid uh that has been cumulative
effects over the last two years and it's
unclear right now how that will sort
itself out over the next six to 12
months
and so you know i would caution against
us doing anything radical at this point
until we really see
you know kind of what direction that uh
that ship is headed in
i would also like to make a comment
about the user fees um you know i think
when it's funny when you mention user
fees uh counselor oakley the first thing
i thought of was sewer water solid waste
i didn't think about the recreational
facilities right out of the gate and so
you know clearly there may be some
opportunities to review where we sit in
relation to other communities for
example with respect to our recreational
user fees but
i lay awake at night thinking about our
sewer water and the major service user
fees because those are user fees that um
a very large portion of our community
that's on fixed incomes don't have an
option to manage the variable tax rates
they can manage because anybody over the
age of 55 that owns property can
actually defer property taxes
for a long time basically until you sell
your property there's a way to get
relief but there is no way to get relief
from the user fees
and so you know i think we need to be
you know very
cognizant of where those user fees go
for that reason
uh councilor roberts
i'd like to mention at this point that i
really really appreciate the
um
measured response that jim gives in
terms of moving things forward in a way
that is uh prudent and not
in a frightening way and not in a way
that is going to leave us hanging too
badly
i came from an environment where i
actually changed interest rates up one
year 21 times and there was a point in
time where i was mortgaging houses for
18 percent
so things can move crazy
those are out of our hands what we need
to be able to do is
the best for all this is a huge a huge
basket of goodies that need to take
place here and i really appreciate the
prudent way that that you balance things
so that you can so that we're not just
insulting one portion of the budget for
another portion that we've got these
things
for our capital infrastructure fairly
before fairly modest but prudent and i i
just really appreciate the way that
we've been handling this and i would
hate for us to digress too greatly
and some fear that inflation is going to
go nuts
thanks thanks scott roberts counselor
dallas further i just had one other
thing jim uh do you have any
um
any uh
idea what's coming down from the
regional district interior health
school board what those increases are
kind of looking like if
because i know we've had some
considerable
percentile increases in those as well in
the last couple years so yeah
i think the regional district their
budget they increased by five percent
this year
that i i can't recall the number it
doesn't translate to a whole lot as far
as our taxpayers having to pay that
the hospital requisition they've been
stepping on that
hard
over the last few years i think it's
this year is going to be another
40 45 increase i think we this will be
the third
and it that impacts i think last year
was about 30 dollars that it added so
it's again not a huge amount but
um
we certainly wouldn't get away with the
increase like that it's totally
different
animal but
and the school board we won't hear from
them until it's usually the first week
of april where we get their requisition
so don't really have a feel for them yet
at all
so so the hospital board that's a good
comment on that one jim the hospital
board
is another example of
not taking a prudent increase
each year
to build reserves and in fact they went
for
don't quote me on this i think it was
more than a dozen years with no
increases whatsoever and then suddenly
we're faced with
uh
a whole pile of capital improvements of
which the hospital district has to pay
40
and so uh it's it's catch up big time uh
for not
taking those increase when the increases
in the small amounts when they should
have been taken
it's a cautionary tale the same thing
happened to us with our water um recall
that we went about eight years or nine
or ten years or something like that
without an increase in the water rates
and then all of a sudden we have nothing
in the reserve and we're panicking to
try and get the reserve back in place so
you know as much as
we look at some of these small
incremental improvements and say well
maybe we can defer that as you mentioned
earlier jim i guess i'm just reinforcing
your comment that you pay the piper
sooner or later and if it's later the
price is higher than if it's sooner
thanks for that thanks for your comments
council
so
the next few slides here are on
non-market change we've we always just
kind of
we always discussed on market change but
we always just kind of gloss over it
so i just want to have a bit of a
discussion in addition to everything
else we're dealing with this year there
was a bit of a hit to non-market change
as well
council recall on december 6th
based on
what bc assessment calls the preview
role
there was a preliminary estimate of
non-market change calculated of two
hundred and seven thousand dollars five
two hundred seven five two hundred seven
thousand five hundred and thirteen
dollars
uh we budget for hundred thousand
dollars annually so that seemed to
indicate that we would have a hundred
and seven thousand dollars that we could
use to fund new expenditures transfer to
reserves
to or to reduce the tax increase
but the completed role came out which is
an intermediary role we're still waiting
on the revised assessment role which
will come out in in april
but based on the completed role that
number has changed from 207 000 to 106
000 and that's not a that's not a final
number yet either
so what's happened is um
actually i'll just go back to the
previous page briefly so most of the
time what we talk about when we're
talking non-market changes
is uh new property tax on new assessment
so new assessment based on
new builds mostly residential houses
that are being built
but non-market change can also result
from
boundary extension to bring in new
assessment property class changes so
changing from class one to six vice
versa exemption status changes
additions or deletions so that's the new
construction
inventory change or sorry inventory
changes
is the new construction additions or
deletions i've got some examples of that
on the next page
and then zoning changes
so on to the other page there so as i've
noted here
uh the most significant uh factor that
contributed to the
big reduction from that previous
estimate to the the current estimate
is a 4.6 million dollar reduction to the
business class assessment as a result of
non-market change
3.7 million of that is related to
additions related to deletions
which also ties into exemptions as i'll
discuss in a bit a bit later here
and then 1.9 million due to property
class changes
and then an increase of 931 thousand
dollars due to exemption status change
which relates primarily to bootleg
primarily the previous being exempt and
we're working our way towards full
taxation on that
so the deletions we're talking about
relate almost entirely to save on foods
so
what happened there
is
that property was eligible for the
revitalization revitalization tax
exemption that we offer the kimberley
investment incentive program
so because that was a multi-year build
uh in 2019 that
the old store i think of the assessed
value was 2.25 million dollars
because they continued to use the new
store while they were constructing use
the old star wars like constructing a
new one
every year they would go look at that
property at the end of october and
assess what had been built there and
they would add that
assessment of the new building onto the
old building to the point where at the
end of 2021
there was 5.5 million dollars in
assessment there that two in change
related to dual building the rest
related to the new building
2022 came along
they got final occupancy on the building
moved into it demolished the old
building
so they removed the folio associated
with the old building which was assessed
at 5.5 million dollars year prior so
that that dropped off
the assessment role through non-market
change
they added the cost of the new building
which is around six million dollars and
then because they were eligible for that
exemption they reduced that by 3.8
million dollars
so we saw a net reduction of about 3.25
million dollars to class 6 as a result
of that that building
in particular
so that was a huge hit probably fifty six thousand dollars
alone um
so the residential non-market assessment in
2022 it increased by about 33 million
dollars which would give us about 160
000 in new tax
so you deduct this 56 000 related to
primarily to
save on foods
and then bc assessment there was a
number of properties in
up at the ski hills so
north star mountain village and mountain
spirit
a bunch of those properties just because
of the way they're they're zoned for use
their split classification the portion
for short-term rentals is class six and
when the property owners are using it
they
allocate a portion of that to
residential
so there were 17 units in there that
they
um
they ended up moving from that split
classification to 100 percent
uh residential
so that was almost another
i think of the 1.9 it was about 1.2
million dollars related to that
and as we know the tax rate for class
six is about two and a half times the
residential
so you move from the higher classification into
the lower you're going to lose a bunch
of tax revenue so there's another
20 20 000 change that was lost there
so that brings that 160 thousand dollars
from residential there was another 19
000 i think related to
recreation class to the good so that
gets us back down to almost the budget
amount
so
complicated explanation but i'm i'm
hoping that that kind of explains to
council what happened there that's it's
an anomaly that unfortunately happened
in a year where we're facing a bunch of
other challenges so
if that wouldn't happen we would have
had a bunch of non-market change would
could have helped offset that tax
increase but
counselor kiddo
so does that mean we got a bunch of
extra money when savon had two buildings
down there
we did get in 2022 when that assessment
got up to 5.5 we received some
additional non-market change there yeah
so that exemption will it's a three year
exemption so 22 3 4 and then in 2025
we'll we'll get that assessment or that
money back again
so that brings us to the first um so so
just
so
the
160 thousand or so that we got from that
non it was it was a good thing we had a
good year last year yes otherwise the
pain was a whole lot more
yeah it was a great year for residential
construction i mean 33 million dollars
that's a that's a big number
so
unless there's any questions
on the previous slides here we'll move
on to the first slide where i'm asking
council for some direction
that resolution being the council
approved for inclusion in the five-year
financial plan by law the proposed-based
budget adjustments related to the
general operating budget as detailed in
slides 16-31 and the cfo's march 21st 22
presentation to council that will allow
us to proceed with bylaw
thank you council thanks for your
patience through that
so the next section here is the aquatic
center
parcel tax and as a council is aware
through kovid we've had some
ups and downs ebbs and flows with this
as well so just a bit of a recap on that
um
in 2019 we changed the aquatic center
funding model so that
uh the money collected through the
parcel tax funds 100 of the operating
deficit payments associated with that
facility
in 2020 with at the onset of covid we
had already adopted a bylaw setting that
rate at 195.91
that was before we knew the extent to
the extended facility shutdown
so we ended up collecting 361 thousand
dollars more in revenue than we needed
that year to fund the deficit and debt
payments so
because
parcel tax revenue can only be used
to to
pay for what it was the parcel tax was
established for which was to fund the
debt payments and operating the aquatic
center
what we did is we put that into a
reserve specific to that parcel tax
and
what what we talked about doing with
that was using it
in 2021 to reduce the parcel tax levy so
we were able to reduce the levy last
year to
88.51 cents from that 195.81
and in 2021
the aquatic center actually ended up um
making more revenue than we had
anticipated so of that 361 000 we didn't
need to use that all to make up for the
um the deficit in 2021 so we were left
with 63 000
dollars in that reserve
which on the next slide
you'll see
we use that to
we through it against the 2022 parcel
tax
so if you take the operating revenue
less expenditures less debt payments
that's the amount left in that reserve
we come up with uh
a deficit including debt of 946 000
and using a parcel tax parcel count of
4602 which could change albeit slightly
uh with a revised role when it comes out
in april
that works out to a parcel tax of 205.67
per year so
we're really just getting back to that
normal range in 2019 it was 198.36
so now we're out up to 205.67
and
assuming we're not going to have um
you know a big savings on the pool next
year i don't anticipate that we're gonna
we won't have a number like that to
reduce the parcel tax buy so the
works out to about 13 that we saved on
the parcel tax this year because we had
that amount in reserve we'll have to make that up next year
so as the facility was shut down i know
we had a lot of feedback from taxpayers
that
are my taxes going to be reduced as a
result of you know the aquatic center
not being used
the answer was yes we gave that money
back
uh but now that we're in full operation
again the 205 dollars is what it costs
to operate so
we gave the money back and now we're
back to where we were when we started so
it's not exactly an increase this year
as as it is a writing of the ship uh
back to where it was pre uh
pre-lockdown
exactly okay
thank you jim yeah thanks for those
comments
so unless there's any questions on that
on the next slide is that the next
resolution i'm requesting from council
uh which is the council direct staff to
prepare an amendment to the current
kimberley parcel tax bylaw
to make the 2022 parcel tax 205 dollars
and 67 cents
mover please counselor roberts thank you
councillor mcvean seconds
uh further discussion uh i do have a
question um
relating to the operating revenue
and expenses
so at 340 000 i that's that seems to be
going up uh over the last couple of
years i seem to remember 300 kind of
being the last conversation we had so my
question is are the
is the revenue going up lock step with
the expenditures like are we continuing
to kind of
you know keep keep that
you know keep that balance or kind of
what's happening with respect to
expenses and and revenues no that's that
would be great if that would happen i
mean we are the revenues are increasing
by two percent a year um based on the
increases anticipated in the in the fees
bylaw
um
the expenditures are increasing on
average by that two percent a little
different this year but
so that two percent of revenue is a lot
less than that two percent of
expenditures so that gap is going to
continue to grow and grow and grow and
there's really nothing we can do about
that it's the subsidy or the deficit's
going to continue to grow just because
of the nature of the uh the relationship
there between revenues and expenditures
so uh i don't expect you to have the
exact number but uh with respect to
usage of the aquatic center is that
remaining flat are we seeing an increase
in that or because that's another way to
increase
yeah to close the gap obviously is to
get more usage of the facility yeah and
just i don't have that mr mayor the
council will have the discussion uh or
the the opportunity to ask those
questions that
the user fees bylaw for the wreck
facilities is going to be coming forward
um i anticipate in the next month here
so i i would think that there's going to
be some discussion about that in the
staff report and an opportunity for
council to
ask some questions there all right very
good thanks jim yep councillor dallin
just in relation to that mr mayor um
contingent on the pho order of uh
necessary mandates perhaps
usage will go up when that relaxes some
more
yeah perhaps although um
yeah i get i guess i guess the question
is where was it pre-covered
you know versus you know kind of where
are we coming out of it the you know the
recreation facilities and aquatic the
aquatic center in particular you know is
one of those amenities in the community
where you're never expected to make
money i mean we're always going to be
deficit financing
and you know i know we've been
struggling the last couple of years with
staying inside the operating budget and
we in fact have cut some hours and some
corners at the aquatic center in order
to stay inside that envelope and i guess
uh as we prepare for that conversation
later on
um you know i i think we need to be very
cautious about cutting back services you
know at the aquatic center uh
i think we need to look at ways of
increasing revenues i guess is what i'm
saying and hopefully that'll be a an
important part of the conversation when
we see the staff report
thank you okay
thank you mr mayor so
yeah unless there's any other discussion
um the the next slide is
have we taken a vote on that already
yeah okay thank you
so the next section is proposed sewer
operating based budget adjustments and
council has had these discussions
already on january 24th i presented a
staff report on financial analysis of
the new wastewater treatment plant
so this is really just incorporating
those changes into the budget with
regards to
that the debt payments that we had
budgeted previously removing those from
the budget incorporating
the debt payments that we discussed at
that meeting into the budget
as well as the incremental operating
expenditures associated with operating
that new plan versus the old one when it
when we flip the switch hopefully in
2026.
so i've just reiterated the resolutions
that were passed at that 24 january 24th
meeting i won't read through those
it does note at the bottom of this page
there was some discussion on
january 24th at that meeting about
as a way of deferring the principal
payments on the debt associated with the
new plant
um doing
undertaking interim or temporary boring
for the first few years so as as we
we're gonna spend
three million dollars in in year one
three and year two and then have it
operating in year three
we temporarily borrow take out a short
term borrowing bylaw uh that way we're
only paying interest payments for for
those first two years and then we enter
the
uh have the debenture issue and enter
into the long-term debt in the third
year so the numbers that are on the
table on the next page
that's what they they reflect
is those estimated costs
as discussed at that meeting we're
basing the long-term borrowing on 30
years
at 3 percent uh which was the
that number was arrived at after
discussions with the mfa
they made it very clear that that was uh
an estimate as we know we can't predict
what the rates are going to be at that
time but
so jim the concept of of temporary
borrowing over the first couple three
years until it's complete is that a
traditional method
very common yeah thank you
that's correct yeah these are this is
all the last three years of the
five-year financial plan
and of course all of that depends it
hinges on the the grant application that
we submitted for that facility
so well march of 2023 i think is when
we're hoping to hear on that
so
unless there's any questions with
regards to this table
i'll move on to the next slide and ask
the council and prove approve the
inclusion of these changes in the
five-year plan
sorry didn't have my mic on for those
online uh the motion was carried
okay thank you council
so the last section of the report here
we're done the operating side of things
now we're into the the capital
non-capital project plan
um council initially approved uh the
preliminary five-year capital
non-capital project plan on november 1st
there have been a number of changes
since then
the reason we approve it that early is
so that we can any of the big projects
that aren't already included in year two
the five-year financial plan
we want approval of those and then we
actually make an amendment to the
current five-year financial plan year to allow us to proceed with uh tenders
and rfps for those larger projects
since that time we've we've adopted a
five-year financial plan bylaw that
impacted some of those numbers
some of the projects that
we had budgeted in 2021 are being
carried forward for a variety of reasons
as one example we ordered a
i think it was a tandem truck in january
of 2021
we still haven't received it i think
we're anticipating receiving it this april so
there are a variety reasons for these
carry forwards but uh they're all noted
in the in the index
uh individually
some there's been some subsequent
council
resolutions passed that impact the plan
and there's a couple projects that have
been added as well
so the next page here
and i'll go go through these
the more significant ones anyways on the next couple of pages here in these
tables and then
um as noted
they're they're all listed in the
appendix i do have some other slides
after this that include a bit of a
narrative on some of these
so
the wastewater treatment plant that's
the first four
items on in this
council's aware of those that was again
further to the discussion
at january 24th so just getting the
updated numbers in there
the kimberley gymnastics facility uh
reconstruction
as everyone's aware uh in on december
14th that facility was was lost to fire
that facility will be is proposed to be
rebuilt with a combination of insurance
proceeds and some fundraising by the
club
so that that was added to the project at
no cost to the city but it is an asset
that will be added to our balance sheet
so it's included in the budget
the swan half park reconstruction or
construction of that new park
and i've got a bit of a blurb on that
at a proposed cost of 222 000
uh council passed a resolution at the
february 28 regular meeting to increase
the budget for the roofs at city hall
and rcmp based on bids that were
received
and there's a couple of it budget items
there refresh of the microsoft office
we're taking that out value of 45 000
because we're moving to subscription
based
so we will no longer need to do that
and so in its place uh the manager of
it is introducing uh conferencing
equipment refresh
so that's in 2026 so by that time that
all the equipment has been added to this
facility uh we'll look at uh refreshing
that
the um the boundary street reconduct
reconstruction
that's the next one two three four
items there in november when this was
presented council it was the entire
budget that was presented including the
city's portion and uh
the third party portions so tech is is
um doing some work in that same trench
and it was proposed that the
developer was going to do some work
there as well so
because
we won't be funding
those projects they won't be our assets
at the end of the day
we're just removing those from the
capital budget and what's in appendix a
is the the city's portion of that
project
um
the tech portion of that we're not sure
yet whether the developer portion is
going to proceed but tech is committed
to proceeding with their portion
they're going to advance us the
estimated cost of doing that project
plus a contingency
we're going to put that in the bank and use that money to pay
the bills for their portion of the work
as they come along so there'll be no
impact to the city's cash flow as a
result of that
um
next one down marysville arena building
condition assessment council did receive
a presentation about that uh i believe
it was a last council meeting
there there were millions of dollars
worth of recommended um
repairs work that needed to be done to
those facilities
and there was i think it was eighty two
thousand dollars that was listed as
immediate so safety
concerns
so the manager of parks and facilities
has requested that those immediate
expenditures of 37 300 for the
marysville rink and 447 for the civic
be included in the 2022 plan so we can
take care of those
then there's a staff report forthcoming
from the manager to uh
discuss with council that the rest of
the recommendations that report get
councils direction going forward on
those
the rest of these
relate to
the
financial plan amendment bylaw 2708 and
the carry forwards
again they're they're detailed project
by project and appendix
um one
so if council wants to discuss those uh
please ask the questions i'm not going
to go forward through them at this point
in time
there's a couple of non-capital items
that were added to the list as well
marysville arena removal of asbestos
containing material
so that's again that's a health and
safety item
that we want to get done in that
facility regardless of
you know
what other
repairs need to be done going forward
over the longer term
and then the last one is asset
retirement obligation implementation
which coincidentally kind of relates to
the the item above it
so in 2022
the public sector accounting board is
introducing a new standard whereby
public bodies municipalities are
obligated to recognize as a
liability the cost of
doing things like asbestos removal
so if this building for example
we got an estimate saying that
when this building comes down now we're
going to have to spend 50 000 on
asbestos removal remediation
we have to recognize that as a as a
liability
in 2022.
the idea behind that i think being that
they just want to force municipalities
into planning for that
so that when you know if and when we
have to um
demolish these buildings we're not
having to scramble for the money to do it the expenditure has already
been recognized
so but that's a non-cash item
that's a non-cash cash item yeah balance
sheet is uh entry exactly it's going to
look really strange on the uh
and the financials when it happens but
this is the reason for it
so we we talked to uh an accounting firm
in december and got a quote of eighteen
thousand dollars to help with the
remediation or the implementation and
we're gonna have to modify our financial
statements and some of our systems to
accommodate this
so i've got a budget of twenty thousand
dollars in here um and just uh
in case it uh went up a little bit so
those are those are both non-capital
items um all of these are funded from
reserves so again they don't they don't
impact
the tax rates
councilor roberts uh jim is that in
addition to the previous uh general one
uh about the general building condition
for the arena of thirty seven thousand
three hundred it is in addition to yeah
that building condition assessment on
marysville had that as a 2022
item but it didn't have it listed under
the immediate okay so it is in addition
to that thank you
good question
so these next slides i think i've
provided explanations already so the
wastewater treatment plant gymnastics
facility
so on off park
that's one app part by the way
we first heard about that from some some
really keen citizens that live in the
swan half subdivision in january 13th of
2020 and they
approached staff last year indicating
that they had fundraised close to 120
000
they asked the city to
make an application to cbt for a hundred
thousand dollars to
complete the estimated cost or to
complete that project at the estimated
cost of 222 000. so if that grant is
approved that will be the city's
contribution to the project
and the rest will be funded through the
grant or the fundraising efforts of that
those folks kelsey goodwin
the cbt website is showing a 99 000
grant to kimberly for the swan avenue
park so goodness we didn't get it all
but we got
99 out of 100.
that's great news
so if i may on uh using swann avenue
park as an example
so we have several of these community
projects that come through the
expectation is the city takes over
maintenance of these facilities how do
we account for that with respect to
service levels for parks and facilities
yeah that's a good point i think when
that
the request came forward to
apply for that cbt grant i think there
was an indication by the manager of
parks and facilities in there that
they were going to accommodate the
increased maintenance of that facility
within the existing
workforce
which okay you know means stretching
them further
something else we should be thinking
about we should start doing
easier said than done whenever we're
adding a new asset like this is
that the life of this equipment's going
to be maybe 10 years
so we should almost be putting 20 25 000
a year away into a reserve
to replace that
when it gets time to replace
so that's that's kind of the you know
the overall cost of these new assets
thank you
the next one city hall rcmp roofs we've
discussed that
boundary street reconstruction we've
discussed that
the arena building condition assessment
recommendations and then the last one
the asset retirement obligation
and and you will hear me talking more
about that over the next year and uh
i suspect that bdo will
potentially be mentioning it
during their presentation of the
financial statements
for 2021 and certainly for 2022 they'll
be they'll be speaking to that as well
so the last
bit of direction i'm seeking from
council is to
improve the inclusion of of these
changes in the five-year financial plan
going forward and to approve the capital
non-capital projects in appendix one for
inclusion in the plan
okay i guess that wasn't the last bit of
direction um
sorry a big deal there
the next slide is proposed next steps so
based on the direction the council is
provided here there is one more piece of
direction here but
i'm proposing that at the april 25th
regular meeting um
the five-year financial plan bylaw tax
rates bylaw and aquatic center parcel
tax bylaw be brought forward for
consideration the first three readings
brought back for adoption on may 9th and
then processing of
mailing of the tax notices
over the next couple of weeks
so that the next and last direction i'm
seeking from council is
to send staff away to
draft fire financial plan violent tax
rates by law
thank you council
appreciate your
again your patience
i think it's important for us to
remember
roughly
and when you consider the size of budgie
i have have actually done a uh
a very uh thoughtful
and um i'm searching for the right word
here it it's uh
yeah it's it's a it's a respectful budget uh
under the circumstances the very
difficult circumstances that we're
operating in these days and we're doing
this without sacrificing any city
services and in fact as we move into
next year we're looking at the
possibility of increasing service so
um
sorry about that
so uh uh you know thanks so much jim and staff uh scott and staff for uh you
know all the great work on on you know
getting us to where we need to be for
2022. councilor mcbain
yeah i think i think the word i would
use to describe um and i think i've used
it before jim for your presentations is
digestible
um it's it it's it becomes makes our job
a lot easier um the explanations that
you provide um i know it helps it helps
me a lot and
i really really appreciate it and i hope
you know when folks listen in um they
get the uh they get the same sense of
what we
come to appreciate from you so yeah it's
great yeah thanks i really appreciate
the comments it lets me know that i'm
kind of on the right track with this
stuff it is
my whole goal putting this together is
really to to make it understandable and
digestible so that's if i've done that
that's that's great to hear thanks
scott do you
wish to weigh in with any comments
i'll just keep it short um jim thanks
again great job
um thanks you know
crisis management is one thing but uh
we seem to be stacking crises lately
um so you know whether it's inflation or
uh oil prices and gas prices going
through the roof
uh more in europe or pandemic
jim's kept a steady hand on the wheel
and has guided us through so uh tough
budget um i really appreciate jim and
the rest of staff's hard work
and uh thank you to council for um
having trust in us all
thank you scott
anything further council
all right uh we have um
some correspondence that we need to uh
receive this evening
uh two letters as a matter of fact could
i have a motion to receive
counselor goodwin thank you and
counselor kiddo seconds
any uh
any comments
terry nunn call the question on receipt
all those in favor
the motion is passed
and i think unless council has any
further comments or jim last call
um
no just again thanks to thanks to
council
thanks to staff as well there's a lot of
time and effort to put into um coming up
with this stuff from from all of the
managers so
yeah no doubt yeah so thank them
you don't make this stuff up
okay awesome uh move adjournment
counselor dallas moves counselor goodwin
seconds all those in favor
motion is carried thanks folks we're
done
i'm glad you remember that