[0:07] just before you start can you maximize
[0:09] that window
[0:15] yeah okay perfect
[0:18] thanks maurice
[0:21] all right uh good evening folks welcome
[0:24] to the special meeting of cambridge
[0:26] kimberly city council for march 21st
[0:29] the first full day of spring the sun
[0:32] sean
[0:33] and uh kyle is in search of the dream
[0:37] we're well we'd like to help you out any
[0:39] way we can
[0:44] a reminder to staff that are on uh
[0:48] that are dialing in on webex if when you
[0:50] are speaking please make sure and turn
[0:52] your video on
[0:54] um any further
[0:57] instructions maurice we set the rock
[1:07] are you at a campground somewhere troy
[1:10] at the hockey game
[1:14] i thought i thought we fixed bandwidth
[1:16] at the arena
[1:18] okay thanks for the heads up on that
[1:20] okay without further ado i would like to
[1:23] call this meeting to order here on the
[1:24] homelands of the tahoe peoples and ask
[1:26] maurice if we have any late items
[1:29] there is no late item mr mayor
[1:32] all right hearing none could i have a
[1:33] mover to adopt the agenda councilor
[1:36] mcbain moves and counselor kiddo seconds
[1:39] all those in favor
[1:41] that motion is carried
[1:45] and we have basically one item at this
[1:48] special meeting tonight and that is the
[1:50] final operating and capital budget
[1:52] changes for the 2022 to 2026 five-year
[1:56] financial plan
[1:58] we have been deliberating for what seems
[2:00] like well it has been many months
[2:03] and we're getting down to the short
[2:04] strokes
[2:05] i know council has read through the
[2:07] package it's pretty
[2:09] thick uh and it's pretty detailed uh
[2:12] thanks jim for
[2:14] uh kind of getting all of this
[2:16] information in a way that we can easily
[2:18] understand and know what our decisions
[2:20] need to be here tonight
[2:23] if it's okay with you maurice the
[2:26] resolutions that we have here tonight of
[2:28] which we have about uh five or six i
[2:32] noticed in the presentation jim you have
[2:33] included the resolution for the section
[2:35] as we finished so we'll just deal with
[2:37] those as we roll through the
[2:39] presentation that sounds good mr mayor
[2:41] that the first one receiving for
[2:42] information if we could get that out of
[2:44] the way that'd be great and then the
[2:45] rest are in there yeah okay so the uh
[2:50] so receipt of the uh of the report
[2:52] counselor dallas moves counselor mcbain
[2:54] seconds all those in favor
[2:57] that motion is carried
[3:01] all right uh over to you jim uh so
[3:04] before i do that uh scott uh thanks for
[3:06] attending tonight
[3:08] i think for those of you who've seen
[3:09] scott's on a few days vacation
[3:12] he's dialing into us tonight from
[3:13] kelowna
[3:14] uh hope everything is going well with
[3:16] the mini holiday scott and thanks for
[3:18] tuning in
[3:21] take it away jim
[3:23] thank you mr mayor
[3:24] and thanks it was good to hear that uh
[3:27] you thought the package was easy to easy
[3:29] to read easy to follow apologize for the weight of it there is a lot of
[3:34] information in here but uh
[3:36] it's time that we we get through this
[3:38] stuff and
[3:39] move on to preparation of the bylaws
[3:42] so starting with the the meeting agenda
[3:45] once we get the presentation up here
[3:47] i'll flip through the slides
[3:49] but uh what's on the agenda tonight is
[3:51] just uh there's a bunch of slides
[3:53] recapping where we've been how we got to
[3:55] this point
[3:56] discussion about financial plan
[3:58] foundation
[3:59] proposed changes to the operating base
[4:01] budget
[4:02] a discussion about the aquatic center
[4:04] parcel tax
[4:05] proposed sewer operating budget changes
[4:07] and then a discussion on the kaplan
[4:08] non-capital
[4:10] budget amounts
[4:11] and as council's aware the last number
[4:13] of pages of the presentation
[4:15] is um
[4:16] in appendix one is a complete listing of
[4:18] all the capital and non-capital projects
[4:20] that we we plan to complete over the
[4:22] next five years
[4:24] we're not going to go through those in
[4:25] detail but if there are any of those
[4:27] once we
[4:28] get to that point in the presentation or
[4:30] as we're moving through if council has
[4:31] questions about those please
[4:34] feel free to to ask
[4:39] doesn't look like it's letting me scroll
[4:41] maurice unless
[4:48] did you do that or did i do it
[4:52] okay
[4:55] so
[4:56] the next slide is is budget recap and
[4:59] i'm not going to go through this it's
[5:00] really just provided for ease of
[5:02] reference for council i'm just showing
[5:04] the resolutions related to budget that
[5:05] have been passed to this point
[5:07] so unless there are any questions on
[5:09] that we're going to skip right to page
[5:10] 13
[5:11] in the next section
[5:15] and the first slide in that
[5:18] section is the the bright blue one
[5:21] the neon colors deliberate
[5:23] this is a
[5:24] fairly
[5:25] relevant slide that was brought forward
[5:27] from the april 19 2021 budget
[5:29] presentation
[5:31] and really what it indicates is that
[5:33] just given the fact that
[5:37] the operating budget reductions in 2021
[5:39] related to kobit 19 and the late hiring
[5:42] of some new employees last year
[5:44] um just a bit of foreshadowing that in
[5:47] 2022
[5:49] to expect an increase that it's well in
[5:51] excess of mpi just to be able to pay for
[5:55] um getting back to normal and the
[5:56] balance of the salaries for those
[5:58] employees
[6:00] so the next page is a discussion the
[6:02] flat financial plan foundation
[6:05] and it's just saying that uh the council
[6:08] adopts a five-year financial plan every
[6:10] year um year two that
[6:12] plan forms the foundation for the new
[6:14] five-year financial plan and that's
[6:16] we're operating under year two the
[6:17] authority year two until the new
[6:19] five-year financial plan vial was
[6:20] adopted
[6:22] so year two of
[6:23] the 21 21 to 2025 financial plan
[6:27] we were anticipating an increase of 3.99
[6:29] percent
[6:30] and you can see the breakdown on that
[6:33] 1.9 was the mpi
[6:35] the inflationary factor
[6:37] uh there was 155 000 just about a 1.42
[6:41] percent increase to fund the the new
[6:42] positions in operations and planning
[6:44] there was three there
[6:46] and then there was 0.67 to move the
[6:48] arenas back to full operating from their
[6:51] reduced operating capacity under covid
[6:58] so the next slide just uh it's just a
[7:00] note saying that
[7:02] the base the base budget is modified on an annual basis for a variety of
[7:07] reasons that i've listed there
[7:10] so the first section we're going to talk
[7:11] about with regards to modifications that
[7:13] the budget is to the
[7:14] operating budget jim
[7:17] mr mayor can we ask questions as we go
[7:20] yeah please what's up
[7:21] so just on the uh the financial plan
[7:24] foundation uh the 0.6 the 73 000 to move
[7:28] the arena budgets back to full operation
[7:30] is there an offsetting revenue uh
[7:32] associated with that
[7:35] there is this this is the expenditure
[7:37] component so that this is the net
[7:38] component there were some actual
[7:41] um wage savings as a result of the
[7:44] closure extended closures of those
[7:46] facilities okay cool this is the net
[7:48] number yeah the 73k okay awesome thank
[7:51] you
[7:53] yeah i'm pleased if there's any anywhere
[7:55] you'd like me to stop just uh speak up
[8:00] so the first page of the
[8:02] proposed general operating base budget
[8:04] adjustments adjustments a couple pages
[8:06] up there
[8:09] council's
[8:10] seen most of this stuff
[8:12] at the december 6 budget meeting we went
[8:14] through
[8:15] all of the changes that are indicated as a recap of adjustments presented on
[8:19] december 6th we
[8:23] staff did not ask council for any
[8:26] decisions on the operating budget at
[8:27] that point in time because we had a
[8:29] couple of big unknowns out there
[8:31] those being the rcmp contract
[8:34] the renewal of that and the non-market
[8:37] change at that time we just had numbers
[8:40] from the preview role so we now have the
[8:42] completed assessment also those numbers
[8:43] have have changed as you've
[8:45] probably seen in the agreement here
[8:48] so i'm going to start on the the next
[8:50] page there where it notes in red new
[8:52] adjustments identified since december
[8:54] 6th those are the ones that council
[8:56] hasn't seen
[8:57] unless there are any
[8:58] questions about the the ones on december
[9:00] 6th
[9:02] actually the one thing i will point out
[9:04] on those is
[9:06] the increase increased half-time edge
[9:08] assistant position to full-time uh the
[9:10] 42-816 that's three lines down on the
[9:13] top of that slide
[9:14] we're obviously not going to hire that
[9:16] person to start as of january 1st
[9:19] the first realistic start date we
[9:20] anticipate is may 1st so
[9:23] that budget has been reduced as you'll
[9:24] see a couple of slides up there's a
[9:26] negative that brings that down to
[9:29] 14 272
[9:32] dollars is an incremental expenditure in
[9:34] 2022
[9:37] so on to the new items since january 2013
[9:42] december 6
[9:43] 2021
[9:44] the first two there are just in and out
[9:48] the fire department has been successful
[9:50] in obtaining uh a bunch of grant funding
[9:52] over the last number of years for some
[9:54] forest management projects
[9:56] to help um
[9:58] protect against wildfire in kimberley
[10:00] so these are the projects that we've
[10:02] received grants for that didn't get
[10:03] completed by the end of 2021
[10:06] um as council is aware it really depends
[10:09] on the weather from year to year hot dry
[10:11] summers they they can't burn they can't do that kind
[10:15] of work so it gets carried over to the
[10:17] next year so that's just the
[10:19] expenditures the funding by grants
[10:22] the next two
[10:23] came about as a result of
[10:26] the first first time rcmp collective
[10:29] agreement being
[10:30] entered into in august of last year
[10:33] and i'm going to stop at a slide i've
[10:34] got a little ways down here to talk
[10:36] about the details but
[10:38] associated with that as we've been
[10:39] talking about for a couple years there
[10:41] was a one-time retro payment
[10:44] to the members
[10:45] for the kimberley detachment
[10:48] they haven't provided the final number
[10:49] for that yet there's a couple of letters
[10:51] attached at the end of this report
[10:53] they're indicating that this this is the
[10:55] top end of their
[10:57] the estimate that they've provided for
[10:59] planning purposes
[11:00] is what they've said in the letter so
[11:03] 227 000 is the estimate of what we're
[11:06] going to have to pay to the rcmp for
[11:08] retro pay
[11:09] and anticipating that this was going to
[11:11] happen councils
[11:12] put money in a reserve over the last
[11:14] number of years and the
[11:16] balance of that i think it's it's in the
[11:18] presentation i think it's 441 000 or
[11:20] something like that
[11:22] so there's a retro pay and then there's
[11:24] also an rcmp contract cost increase so
[11:27] on the recommendation of the rcmp since
[11:29] 2016 which was the last time they had a
[11:32] pay adjustment
[11:34] we've been adding two and a half percent
[11:35] a year
[11:36] so
[11:37] this edition of the 55 891
[11:40] is
[11:41] the difference between that that two and
[11:43] a half percent a year and what we're
[11:45] actually having to pay them in 2022
[11:47] under the new collective agreement
[11:49] and what i'm proposing and i'll talk
[11:51] more about this later as well is that
[11:53] because we're going to have a
[11:55] fairly healthy balance over two hundred
[11:56] thousand dollars left in that reserve
[11:58] after the retro pay i'm proposing just given
[12:02] um
[12:03] the challenges we're having this year
[12:05] with with the tax increase that we fund
[12:07] that
[12:08] out of the
[12:09] reserve as well just for 2022
[12:12] which would essentially defer a half
[12:14] percent tax increase from this year to
[12:16] next
[12:17] and i i think that's reasonable given
[12:18] the fact that that that reserve is
[12:20] specific to our cmp
[12:22] and it was built through
[12:24] uh savings from that service over the
[12:26] last five years so
[12:28] and again i'll talk about that more a
[12:29] little bit later
[12:33] um i'm not going to go through each of
[12:35] these in detail but again if you have any questions
[12:40] most of the rest of these are fairly minor amounts
[12:45] the larger ones i do have slides
[12:48] later on just explaining justifying the
[12:50] changes but the total proposed
[12:53] adjustments as you'll see there
[12:55] are 394 893
[12:59] and a few slides up here you'll see that
[13:02] the expenditures that are funded from
[13:03] reserves bring that down to a fairly low
[13:06] number
[13:07] which is the amount that's being funded
[13:08] from
[13:09] general revenues
[13:12] okay
[13:13] so just to clarify the last line on this
[13:15] particular slide
[13:17] is what you were speaking about earlier
[13:19] with the later start for the engineer is
[13:21] that correct brings it down to the 14
[13:23] 000
[13:25] yeah that's right the 28 544
[13:27] extracted from that uh 42 000 there yeah so that's essentially bringing the
[13:34] budget for that from a full year down to
[13:36] eight months just given the fact that
[13:37] we're part way through the year here
[13:38] already
[13:42] so again the first um
[13:44] the first few slides uh following this
[13:47] one
[13:48] there's an explanation of the chemical
[13:50] gardens
[13:52] change there that's an in and out
[13:55] but essentially what that is is
[13:57] we were start historically we've been
[13:59] paying kces to to manage the gardens
[14:02] and with the announcement that they're
[14:04] winding down that society
[14:05] um we're just gonna we're gonna remove
[14:07] that payment from the budget but then
[14:09] we're gonna add it back in under parks
[14:10] and facilities as an expenditure to
[14:13] um hire somebody
[14:16] for the city to hire somebody to look
[14:17] after that
[14:18] and the operations department is working
[14:20] on a staff report as they indicated
[14:22] previously to to bring back back to
[14:24] council to have a larger discussion
[14:26] about the longer term with that facility
[14:36] see
[14:38] with that um
[14:40] with that new
[14:42] park expert i like you know we will
[14:44] probably have a better answer when the
[14:45] assessment comes out but
[14:47] um
[14:48] would this person
[14:50] be um
[14:52] basically just bound to kaminko guard
[14:54] would they just be
[14:55] spread around everywhere could they be
[14:57] used anywhere or was it just like a
[14:58] kaminko gardens caretaker
[15:01] i think the idea right now i i shouldn't
[15:04] speak on nicole's behalf here but uh
[15:07] i believe we're anticipating that that 76 000 will be to to look after
[15:11] chemical gardens
[15:12] at least until we get a feel for the
[15:14] operation of that
[15:15] but longer term uh that i think that
[15:17] would certainly be an option to have
[15:19] you know have an arborist or somebody on
[15:21] staff
[15:22] or a contractor to look after that
[15:25] yeah i think um i saw somewhere in here
[15:27] where we're going out to rfp
[15:30] looking for somebody to do that so it
[15:31] would be an independent contractor
[15:33] that's right yeah
[15:34] go ahead nigel
[15:35] i'm really disappointed that we're even
[15:37] talking about the options around coming
[15:38] kaminko garden when we yet to see a
[15:40] staff report
[15:41] and i thought we were part of the
[15:42] decision-making process i was even more
[15:44] disappointed to be reading about it in
[15:46] the media today without a staff report
[15:48] now being able to weigh in as a council
[15:50] so
[15:51] don't like the way it's playing out
[15:53] quite frankly
[15:54] um i would have liked us to be
[15:56] discussing it before i hit the media
[15:59] can you expand on that nigel
[16:02] yeah just the the comments about
[16:05] rfps and potentially people running and
[16:07] stuff i don't know any of those answers
[16:09] but it's been discussed in the media
[16:10] it's already hitting facebook and the
[16:12] bulletin's written an article about it
[16:13] so
[16:15] yeah
[16:16] i'm just uh i just think that was a
[16:17] little bit um
[16:19] premature uh or the staff report was
[16:21] late i just think don't just just don't
[16:23] enjoy the way this is playing out i
[16:24] don't feel like as a council we really
[16:27] are a part of it this seems to be
[16:28] happening um behind the scenes that's
[16:30] how it appears to me anyway
[16:36] yeah
[16:37] there was a previous staff report um
[16:40] when there was discussions about kcds
[16:41] winding down indicating that this would
[16:43] be the
[16:44] path forward for this year anyways until
[16:46] there was a a bigger discussion on long
[16:48] term
[16:49] yeah yeah i i thought so too that early
[16:52] on we said that the support that we had
[16:53] provided uh would be there this year
[16:57] because we weren't anticipating that uh that staff report was going to
[17:00] be in in time
[17:02] you know for that
[17:03] so i think i think really
[17:05] the question that we got from the media
[17:07] was is kameko gardens going to be open
[17:09] this year
[17:10] and um
[17:11] the answer was yes it is
[17:14] what the long-term solution is or the
[17:16] long-term future is for kamekal gardens
[17:19] given what's underway we'll see but uh
[17:22] you know for sure this year you know it
[17:24] will be open
[17:26] i don't think there was any intent to uh
[17:30] i thought i thought we'd had that
[17:31] conversation actually around the table
[17:32] here uh much earlier on
[17:35] back as part of the kcds discussion
[17:38] can't
[17:39] yeah i i see this as just maintaining
[17:42] the status quo for one more year in the
[17:44] staff report we'll be talking about ways
[17:47] to change the status quo maybe or maybe
[17:50] not
[17:50] but i think that's going to be a
[17:52] conversation the communities want to
[17:53] going to want to be a part of and so
[17:55] we're going to have to
[17:57] think about how we get feedback from the
[17:59] community as we move forward and look at
[18:01] different options so yeah absolutely
[18:05] and go ahead and that would be more of
[18:06] my point that it is starting to be
[18:08] played out in the media there's a lot of
[18:09] misinformation happening on facebook a
[18:11] lot of concern that's been raised
[18:14] i just would have liked to have had more
[18:15] information so i could respond to the
[18:16] community and some of those concerns
[18:18] that's all i'm saying here it's just i
[18:20] would like to see a report i would like
[18:22] more conversation before i hit the media
[18:24] there's just too many unknowns out there
[18:26] at the moment
[18:29] further comments
[18:34] okay
[18:35] appreciate the comments
[18:36] uh counselor keto chris memory is on the
[18:38] line here and he's he's hearing that as
[18:40] well so
[18:42] these next few slides here i'm just
[18:44] going to
[18:45] flip through and if you if you want to
[18:46] have some additional discussion on them
[18:48] please let me know
[18:50] you've seen these before at the december
[18:52] 6 meeting as well
[18:53] the next few anyways
[18:55] so the next one is the engineering
[18:57] assistant gis tech so we're proposing to
[18:59] move that from a current half time
[19:02] position into a full-time position
[19:03] that's shared between planning and
[19:04] operations
[19:06] the slide
[19:07] following that is with regard to
[19:09] retirement sick leave payouts
[19:11] and this is just uh it's a liability
[19:14] that the city is obligated to pay
[19:16] until
[19:18] these grandfather benefits are gone
[19:20] essentially
[19:22] they're funded from the general
[19:23] operating surplus just given their
[19:24] nature so they they don't have an impact
[19:26] on the tax collection or the tax rates
[19:29] from year to year
[19:31] the next one is the cayenne commitment
[19:34] and that's just the last year of the current three-year
[19:38] commitment
[19:39] um moving their revenue and expenditures
[19:41] they're budgeted for 2022 into 2023
[19:44] their their year
[19:46] overlaps it runs from
[19:50] july to june or june to july so it's
[19:52] really just uh
[19:53] it's just a timing adjustment
[19:57] the next one 22
[19:59] 2022 election budget budget increase um
[20:02] 20 000 increase proposed there
[20:06] related to potential impacts of of cobit
[20:11] that's proposed to be funded from the
[20:12] kobe 19 safe start safe restart grant
[20:15] reserve so if it's not used it'll remain
[20:17] in that reserve to be used for something
[20:19] else
[20:21] these next few slides here
[20:23] parks irrigation maintenance
[20:26] platzel and parks tree maintenance
[20:30] they're fairly fairly straightforward i
[20:32] believe the next slide on the forest
[20:35] management program at zero net effect
[20:37] i've already talked a little bit about
[20:39] that
[20:40] the next one is the rcmp contract retro
[20:43] pay with 227 thousand dollars that we've
[20:46] talked about
[20:47] so again since since 2016 the rcmp
[20:51] member salaries have been frozen and on
[20:53] august 26 2021
[20:57] their first ever collective agreement
[20:58] was ratified
[21:00] and i'm not entirely sure why it took
[21:02] um so long for them to provide us with
[21:04] the information
[21:05] but uh on february 28 the mayor received
[21:09] an email with a letter attached advising
[21:11] of the
[21:12] estimated range of retroactive payments
[21:14] that you see there two hundred sixteen
[21:16] thousand two hundred and twenty seven
[21:17] thousand
[21:18] and as noted earlier there's a balance
[21:20] of four hundred and forty one thousand
[21:21] dollars
[21:23] in that uh rcmp contract reserve to to
[21:25] pay that from so
[21:27] there's fortunate planning there
[21:30] the next slide is related we've
[21:32] discussed this again this is the rcmp
[21:34] contract cost adjustment so the
[21:36] difference between what we budgeted and
[21:38] what the rcmp are saying in their
[21:40] march 4th letter to me which is also
[21:43] attached to the report here
[21:46] is 55 891 so that's the incremental
[21:48] revenue we need to pay for for that
[21:51] incremental cost
[21:53] just something worth noting here
[21:55] i as you'll note in the letter there
[21:57] they provide a cost for the for eight
[21:59] members uh 1.228 million dollars
[22:02] as council's aware we on an annual basis
[22:05] make a request to the rcmp to manage
[22:07] that detachment to to seven members as
[22:09] opposed to eight
[22:11] and they've been accommodating um
[22:13] i'm not sure when that started but since
[22:15] i've been around anyways we've been
[22:16] making that request
[22:18] and
[22:20] it's possible i suppose at some point in
[22:22] time they're going to say you know we
[22:24] need the full contingent here we need
[22:26] the full eight members
[22:28] and if and when that happens
[22:30] at this point in time anyways uh that
[22:32] it's about 152 000 per member
[22:35] so if they were to come back and ask for
[22:36] that we would be looking for that money
[22:38] which is you know it's percent percent
[22:41] and a half roughly tax increase
[22:44] that's a good one
[22:46] so jim if we use the reserves to fund
[22:49] the 0.5 increase this year will there be
[22:52] a double increase next year
[22:54] a 0.5 and a 0.5 or
[22:57] no
[22:58] we've
[22:59] i've noted on here they
[23:01] they're telling us that the 2023 to 2027
[23:06] estimates typically they provide us with
[23:08] a five-year budget
[23:09] we're not going to receive that until
[23:11] may so it won't be received in time to
[23:14] work that into the budget
[23:16] but from 2022 forward it will just be
[23:18] it'll be an incremental annual increase
[23:20] again
[23:21] so i i'm budgeting for 2.5
[23:24] going forward
[23:25] okay but we we budgeted for 2.5 for this
[23:29] year and it was 0.5
[23:31] too low
[23:33] which makes me think
[23:34] well the point five percent too low was
[23:36] to catch us up since 2016.
[23:40] so they hadn't received an increase
[23:41] since 2016 so that
[23:45] once once we're caught up to 2022 and
[23:47] then we're just back into the regular uh
[23:49] inflationary adjustments going forward
[23:52] okay thank you yeah
[23:54] i hope it's nice
[23:56] uh the next slide
[23:59] cayenne so jim just further
[24:01] clarification on that so
[24:03] uh this year we're going to fund that 55
[24:06] 000 out of the rcmp reserve but next
[24:10] pardon me next year we'll need to fund
[24:12] that out of taxes that's correct yeah yeah
[24:15] it's it's really just essentially a
[24:17] deferral um of that half percent
[24:19] increase from this year to next year
[24:21] in the hopes that we're not going to be
[24:22] facing the same challenges this year
[24:24] that we are
[24:29] so the next slide
[24:32] yeah happy to discuss it further if
[24:35] no i i just have a rather pessimistic
[24:38] outlook about each year going forward
[24:39] and whether we'll actually see anything
[24:42] relax but we'll see
[24:44] yeah
[24:45] time will tell
[24:48] so the next slide the program kai and
[24:50] extension extension
[24:51] um
[24:53] recently at the february 14th council
[24:55] meeting council extended that that
[24:57] initial three-year greet agreement with
[24:59] the kimberley youth action network
[25:01] by one year so this is just creating a
[25:04] budget for that
[25:05] it's uh sixty thousand dollars in
[25:07] revenue fifty four thousand five hundred
[25:09] in expenditures with which are split
[25:11] fifty fifty between this year next given
[25:13] the way that their fiscal year works
[25:16] uh the 5500 difference is the
[25:18] an administrative cost that's retained
[25:20] by the city for the the cost for our
[25:22] staff to look after that program
[25:25] do the paperwork et cetera
[25:29] so the next uh table here is where we
[25:31] get into the the numbers
[25:34] so the first green line there three three
[25:38] lines down on the first top of that
[25:40] table the 394 893 is what was brought
[25:42] forward from that previous slide
[25:45] the total of the changes to the
[25:46] operating costs
[25:47] the next section is
[25:49] the amount of those costs that are going
[25:51] to be covered from
[25:52] the various reserves
[25:54] so they're not affecting uh the increase
[25:57] to the property tax rate
[25:59] so the net of those two is 62
[26:02] 772 dollars which is the the net of the ask
[26:06] for this year
[26:08] which works out to a 0.58 tax increase
[26:12] on the next slide
[26:13] we've got um
[26:16] the 3.99 percent that we discussed
[26:18] earlier which is already built into year
[26:19] two of the current five-year financial
[26:21] plan
[26:22] so we're adding the 0.58 percent for the
[26:24] 62 772
[26:27] and then i'm also proposing to
[26:29] increase the inflationary factor that we
[26:31] had budgeted previous previously of 1.9
[26:33] percent to 2.84
[26:36] so that's an additional 0.94
[26:38] bringing the total increase um for 2022 to 5.51
[26:49] go ahead
[26:50] councilman um i appreciate you
[26:54] factoring that in jim um how confident
[26:56] are you that that is enough um given
[27:00] that uh
[27:01] you know i think everybody's feeling the effects right now and this all signs
[27:05] kind of point to
[27:06] um
[27:08] inflation going even higher so
[27:10] just curious yeah it's
[27:13] that's
[27:14] it it's a tough one to be confident
[27:15] about um at this point in time and
[27:17] municipalities seem to be all over the
[27:19] place i was able to find 18 municipalities
[27:22] that i could find online that had either
[27:25] communicated or approved their tax
[27:27] increases
[27:28] of those 18 10 of them were 5 or over
[27:32] the highest was eight and the lowest was
[27:35] 2.75
[27:37] um that eight was an outlier as was a
[27:39] 2.75 so
[27:41] i mean that most of what you hear about
[27:44] with inflation that the big um
[27:48] components of those the the mpi cpis
[27:52] that are are seeing a big hit these days
[27:53] are our fuel and and food
[27:56] and so
[27:57] when you back that food component out
[27:59] that the inflationary factor does drop
[28:02] so i'm hopeful that this is going to be
[28:06] enough i guess is what i'm saying but it
[28:07] really you know given
[28:09] we're still feeling the impacts of covid
[28:11] with the supply chains challenges chain
[28:13] challenges
[28:14] the war in ukraine the cp strike i mean
[28:17] it's
[28:19] we don't know when it's going to end or
[28:20] how how long he's
[28:22] going to continue for but
[28:24] yeah i feel you have your
[28:26] finger on the pulse jim it was just uh
[28:28] yeah just question thanks good question
[28:30] and i was i was expecting it because
[28:31] it's uh
[28:33] it's a tough one to put your thumb on
[28:35] this year
[28:37] so
[28:38] pardon me if i may jim
[28:40] um
[28:41] i guess
[28:42] in inflation to a lot of people is
[28:46] i mean costs are going up but the term
[28:48] inflation is
[28:50] fuzzy uh the fact is that if we have uh
[28:53] in the past years if we had not taken
[28:55] the two percent inflationary increase
[28:58] that cumulatively over the years would
[29:00] have meant that we would would have had
[29:01] to take a reduction in service somewhere
[29:04] in the services that we provide
[29:06] uh inflation has to be paid for somehow
[29:09] so it's either through taxes to keep
[29:11] service levels where they are or we have
[29:13] to look at reducing the service levels
[29:15] and it's a really really difficult
[29:18] challenge because nobody wants to see
[29:20] service reductions
[29:23] but at the end of the day we either do
[29:25] that or you have to pay for them and i
[29:27] think what we're seeing here in this in
[29:29] this particular budget is
[29:31] um you know a pretty good case scenario
[29:33] when we see what's going on around us
[29:36] um you know something it's not a
[29:38] reduction in services um but it's also
[29:42] you know a manageable increase that i
[29:44] think most people would understand
[29:46] at least i hope they do we'll find out i
[29:48] hope so as well mr mayor and the real
[29:50] saving grace for us with regards to
[29:52] inflationary factor is the fact that
[29:54] we're we're still working under
[29:56] the wages that were negotiated in the
[29:58] last round of collective bargaining so
[30:01] we're we work with the weighted average
[30:03] um when we're calculating that
[30:05] inflationary adjustment so
[30:06] 2.84 it includes an increase of 2.18
[30:09] percent for the wages which is
[30:11] i think it's around 50 or 60 percent as
[30:14] far as the the weighted portion of that part of the the index so
[30:19] if if our wages were tied to a cpi like
[30:22] a lotter r these days
[30:25] we'd be talking a different number right
[30:27] now but
[30:28] that is helping us a lot
[30:33] so the last section of that slide there
[30:36] there's a small adjustment uh sixty six
[30:39] thousand one hundred one dollar
[30:41] reduction and that's a preliminary
[30:42] number
[30:43] uh related to non-market change and i'll
[30:45] talk more about that in the coming
[30:46] slides here
[30:48] so reduction of point 0.06
[30:50] to 5.45 so that's the proposed
[30:54] increase to the the variable tax
[30:56] collection or to the overall property
[30:58] tax collection for 2022
[31:04] these next few slides here uh speak to
[31:06] this
[31:08] just some more discussion about the
[31:09] annual inflationary adjustment
[31:12] so
[31:13] the mpi that we have been using since
[31:15] 2016
[31:17] it's based on a weighted average of
[31:18] various expenditure categories within
[31:20] the city's budget using
[31:22] a bunch of conference board of canada
[31:24] indices
[31:25] and i've noted some of those
[31:27] below for
[31:28] what those indices are saying the
[31:30] increase was from fourth quarter 2020 to
[31:33] the end of 2021
[31:35] so 11.23 for vehicles and equipment fuel
[31:38] and oil 65.46
[31:40] materials goods and services 11.23
[31:42] natural gas 25.19
[31:46] so if if we were to use
[31:48] those indices i mean they just
[31:50] they don't seem to reflect what we've
[31:52] experienced over the last year we've
[31:54] seen increases for sure
[31:56] but
[31:57] if we were to use those indices
[32:00] we'd be looking at tax increase of over
[32:02] eight percent to calculate the the
[32:04] annual
[32:05] inflationary factor so
[32:07] what i've done is in place of
[32:09] some of the indices or the amounts
[32:10] prescribed by some of the indices i've
[32:12] used the
[32:13] increase to the canada's cpi over the
[32:16] last year which was 4.8 percent
[32:19] i've used 20 percent for fuel and oil
[32:22] and then for the wages as discussed it's
[32:24] at 2.18
[32:26] so that's where that 2.84 got pushed out
[32:28] from
[32:30] so we are we are varying from
[32:33] the typical mpi calculation this year we
[32:36] do every year to a certain extent i
[32:39] mean we've got negotiated wage increases
[32:42] we'll use that as opposed to the indices
[32:44] if we've got uh
[32:46] the rates from tariffs and gas or bc
[32:48] hydro as far as what they're increasing
[32:49] by we'll use those rather than the in
[32:51] the c number
[32:53] so i just wanted council to be aware of
[32:56] the fact that we've we varied from that
[32:59] and that's where how that 2.84 was
[33:02] arrived at
[33:03] so it is
[33:04] it's not the 1.9 that we included in the
[33:06] budget last year you know we're
[33:08] increasing it by almost a percent um to
[33:10] get that into sea up
[33:12] a bit but
[33:13] the goal was to implement a reasonable
[33:15] tax increase while wall respect while
[33:18] still respecting the uh
[33:20] the inflationary climate that we're in
[33:22] right now
[33:29] sorry joe go ahead
[33:31] thanks jim i appreciate the update
[33:34] one of the things that as you've been
[33:37] briefing us on this that i've been
[33:38] wondering about is um
[33:41] use of reserve money if uh
[33:43] if we do not uh if we are not successful
[33:46] in some of our
[33:48] grant applications for various things
[33:50] one of them would be for example
[33:52] wastewater treatment plant
[33:54] and
[33:55] the city
[33:56] decides to
[33:57] not pursue
[33:59] that avenue for their foreseeable future
[34:02] or other avenues
[34:04] is there a chance you know given the
[34:05] climate of inflation to use reserve
[34:08] funds for as an emergency to help
[34:12] make this more palatable for folks in
[34:14] kimberley the tax increase yeah
[34:17] um
[34:19] i i always
[34:20] kind of compare that it's that's kind of
[34:22] like using your your kids education fund
[34:24] to pay the mortgage payments i mean it's
[34:27] you're you're
[34:29] delaying the inevitable like sooner or
[34:30] later
[34:32] i mean you can use a hundred thousand dollars
[34:35] say to get the tax increase down to um
[34:39] a lower amount
[34:41] but then you're you're having to make
[34:43] that back in the next year i mean unless
[34:45] you keep taking that hundred thousand
[34:46] dollars out again and again and again to
[34:48] the point where
[34:50] you know you're getting close to
[34:51] depleting your reserves
[34:53] then
[34:53] when your reserves are depleted then you
[34:55] have to come up with that money so that
[34:57] the ongoing annual expenditures
[35:00] best practices to fund that from ongoing
[35:02] annual revenues as opposed to a pot of
[35:05] money in a reserve
[35:08] so in in fact jim we're suffering a
[35:10] little bit from that this year uh the
[35:12] next slide which shows the
[35:15] increases over the last three years
[35:17] the two point two two zero percent in
[35:19] 2020 and 1.6 uh in 2021
[35:23] those last two years of no increases
[35:26] we've lost three percent to inflation
[35:29] and had we taken our normal two percent
[35:31] over those two years
[35:33] we instead of 5.5 we'd be looking at a
[35:36] um
[35:39] a 2.5 percent increase this year
[35:42] so to speak to your point you know we did what we thought under
[35:47] the circumstances at the beginning of
[35:48] covet was a good thing but we have to
[35:51] eventually pay the piper for that and
[35:53] this year is that year where we are
[35:55] doing that
[35:59] yeah that's a good point mr mayor on on
[36:02] the next slide there you'll see that
[36:04] as noted um so the last three years
[36:06] we've had an average increase of one
[36:08] point two seven percent while the pcc
[36:10] cpi over that same period is
[36:12] has grown by seven percent so
[36:14] if we work that 5.45 into that as a
[36:18] fourth year uh the four-year average
[36:20] would be 2.31 which is
[36:22] you know we're not far off from from
[36:24] inflation there
[36:31] so the
[36:36] see here
[36:38] so the next slide here is options to
[36:40] reduce
[36:41] the tax increase and
[36:43] i'm hoping just given the discussion
[36:44] that council is uh
[36:47] gain some comfort with that number
[36:49] but if we want to reduce that um as the
[36:52] mayor spoke to a bit here we could uh
[36:54] we could lower service levels elsewhere
[36:56] in the general operating budget
[36:58] uh we could defer reduce or eliminate
[37:00] one or more of the proposed changes
[37:02] um in total we're proposing you know
[37:04] just over 60 thousand dollars in changes
[37:06] so that would give us a little over half
[37:08] a percent
[37:10] we could increase increase general
[37:11] operating budget revenue other than tax
[37:14] revenue user fees permit license fees
[37:16] or we could reduce contributions to the
[37:18] general capital reserves as we've talked
[37:20] about a little bit
[37:22] one thing we have to remember we
[37:24] 2022 we collected about 14 million dollars in uh
[37:29] revenue in about
[37:32] 10 and a half that almost 11 million
[37:34] dollars was through property tax the
[37:35] rest of that was through
[37:37] um user fees a small community grant
[37:40] business licenses that type of thing
[37:43] and
[37:44] we're not going to be getting that 5.45
[37:46] percent on those we've got 2 built in
[37:48] for the water and sewer user fees
[37:50] there's also two percent built in there
[37:52] for recreation fee increases but
[37:55] some of that stuff small community grant
[37:57] is an example we there there is no
[37:58] inflationary factor built into that so
[38:05] yeah it's just weighing in um
[38:09] just a pining on on these options um
[38:12] yeah i would really hesitate um reducing the contribution to our our
[38:18] capital reserve i i just look at
[38:20] you know we have done
[38:23] i believe council over the last little
[38:25] while has done a lot um to to get caught
[38:28] up um on infrastructure projects and and
[38:31] various things and we know we have some
[38:33] huge ticket items as well um coming up
[38:36] and uh and i and i really
[38:39] i don't want to slow that momentum down
[38:41] and and if we recall i think you know
[38:43] some of you who've been on council a lot
[38:45] longer than i have um
[38:47] you know a lot of the stuff that we're
[38:48] dealing with
[38:50] is because the can got kicked down the
[38:51] road for a long time
[38:53] and we're trying to to fix that so i
[38:56] would really caution us trying to
[38:58] make a move like that um where we where
[39:01] we uh
[39:02] decrease those uh contributions because
[39:04] i think we still have a long ways to go
[39:10] officer oakley
[39:12] yes i i do uh have a i would like to
[39:14] comment on the user fees i i i have
[39:17] never um
[39:20] uh
[39:21] you know
[39:22] liked the um
[39:26] some of the recreational facilities that
[39:28] we have in our community not charging a
[39:31] higher level
[39:32] user fees i just personally feel user
[39:34] fees there's room to move there to help
[39:36] out
[39:37] and
[39:39] that that's always a tough one because
[39:42] people are paying out of pocket and you
[39:44] know they're paying tax increases it's
[39:45] just one thing after another but it is
[39:48] um
[39:49] it is it seems to me uh to be fair to
[39:53] some taxpayers and kimberley that don't
[39:55] use the facilities
[39:57] that don't have to pay the user fee and
[39:58] that there would be a higher user fee
[40:00] for the folks that are using them
[40:01] the other thing that i wanted to comment
[40:03] on
[40:04] was
[40:05] the regional district
[40:07] possibly
[40:08] you know having a little bit of a larger
[40:11] role and uh some of our facilities
[40:13] possibly as they do in other communities
[40:16] so to help out and uh
[40:18] because people who come in from the
[40:19] region to use our facilities
[40:22] and
[40:23] are not paying a local municipal tax
[40:26] so a user fee to me is something i i
[40:28] would i would love to look at that um i
[40:31] think that's fair
[40:33] and
[40:34] it's needed now it's uh to look at that
[40:37] heart and to see if that can help out
[40:39] make a difference
[40:41] thank you
[40:42] thanks daryl um
[40:44] counselor dallas go ahead
[40:46] uh i would caution against uh
[40:49] going too hard with the user fees simply
[40:51] because
[40:53] with the increased cost of living
[40:55] particularly that increase to fuel
[40:58] um
[40:59] you know that could disproportionately
[41:02] take the the lower income folks and
[41:04] really price them out of
[41:06] those facilities
[41:08] uh
[41:09] my main thing that i'd like to say is
[41:10] thank you jim and the rest of staff that
[41:13] have helped you with this because
[41:15] uh you know
[41:17] you've carried the ball you haven't you
[41:19] know in the last couple years we've
[41:22] borrowed from peter to pay paul and
[41:23] we're
[41:24] obviously catching up with that today
[41:26] but um
[41:29] you've done an incredible job you know
[41:32] and uh
[41:33] thanks to you and all the staff
[41:35] yeah we really appreciate that i think
[41:37] we're all looking forward to getting
[41:38] back to a normal year next year when
[41:41] we're we're not having to to do that
[41:44] back and forth thank you
[41:46] yeah when you mention normal year i
[41:48] think that's the other thing i think we
[41:49] need to remember that there's a lot of
[41:51] cause and effect here as we're coming
[41:53] out of covid uh that has been cumulative
[41:56] effects over the last two years and it's
[41:58] unclear right now how that will sort
[42:00] itself out over the next six to 12
[42:02] months
[42:03] and so you know i would caution against
[42:05] us doing anything radical at this point
[42:07] until we really see
[42:09] you know kind of what direction that uh
[42:11] that ship is headed in
[42:13] i would also like to make a comment
[42:15] about the user fees um you know i think
[42:18] when it's funny when you mention user
[42:19] fees uh counselor oakley the first thing
[42:21] i thought of was sewer water solid waste
[42:25] i didn't think about the recreational
[42:26] facilities right out of the gate and so
[42:29] you know clearly there may be some
[42:31] opportunities to review where we sit in
[42:33] relation to other communities for
[42:34] example with respect to our recreational
[42:37] user fees but
[42:39] i lay awake at night thinking about our
[42:42] sewer water and the major service user
[42:46] fees because those are user fees that um
[42:49] a very large portion of our community
[42:51] that's on fixed incomes don't have an
[42:53] option to manage the variable tax rates
[42:56] they can manage because anybody over the
[42:58] age of 55 that owns property can
[42:59] actually defer property taxes
[43:03] for a long time basically until you sell
[43:05] your property there's a way to get
[43:06] relief but there is no way to get relief
[43:08] from the user fees
[43:10] and so you know i think we need to be
[43:12] you know very
[43:13] cognizant of where those user fees go
[43:16] for that reason
[43:20] uh councilor roberts
[43:22] i'd like to mention at this point that i
[43:24] really really appreciate the
[43:26] um
[43:29] measured response that jim gives in
[43:32] terms of moving things forward in a way
[43:35] that is uh prudent and not
[43:39] in a frightening way and not in a way
[43:42] that is going to leave us hanging too
[43:43] badly
[43:45] i came from an environment where i
[43:47] actually changed interest rates up one
[43:50] year 21 times and there was a point in
[43:53] time where i was mortgaging houses for
[43:56] 18 percent
[43:58] so things can move crazy
[44:01] those are out of our hands what we need
[44:03] to be able to do is
[44:05] the best for all this is a huge a huge
[44:09] basket of goodies that need to take
[44:11] place here and i really appreciate the
[44:13] prudent way that that you balance things
[44:15] so that you can so that we're not just
[44:17] insulting one portion of the budget for
[44:21] another portion that we've got these
[44:23] things
[44:24] for our capital infrastructure fairly
[44:26] before fairly modest but prudent and i i
[44:29] just really appreciate the way that
[44:30] we've been handling this and i would
[44:32] hate for us to digress too greatly
[44:35] and some fear that inflation is going to
[44:37] go nuts
[44:39] thanks thanks scott roberts counselor
[44:41] dallas further i just had one other
[44:43] thing jim uh do you have any
[44:45] um
[44:47] any uh
[44:49] idea what's coming down from the
[44:50] regional district interior health
[44:54] school board what those increases are
[44:56] kind of looking like if
[44:58] because i know we've had some
[45:00] considerable
[45:01] percentile increases in those as well in
[45:03] the last couple years so yeah
[45:06] i think the regional district their
[45:08] budget they increased by five percent
[45:09] this year
[45:10] that i i can't recall the number it
[45:12] doesn't translate to a whole lot as far
[45:15] as our taxpayers having to pay that
[45:17] the hospital requisition they've been
[45:19] stepping on that
[45:20] hard
[45:21] over the last few years i think it's
[45:23] this year is going to be another
[45:25] 40 45 increase i think we this will be
[45:28] the third
[45:29] and it that impacts i think last year
[45:31] was about 30 dollars that it added so
[45:33] it's again not a huge amount but
[45:35] um
[45:37] we certainly wouldn't get away with the
[45:38] increase like that it's totally
[45:40] different
[45:41] animal but
[45:43] and the school board we won't hear from
[45:44] them until it's usually the first week
[45:46] of april where we get their requisition
[45:48] so don't really have a feel for them yet
[45:50] at all
[45:52] so so the hospital board that's a good
[45:54] comment on that one jim the hospital
[45:56] board
[45:56] is another example of
[45:59] not taking a prudent increase
[46:01] each year
[46:02] to build reserves and in fact they went
[46:05] for
[46:08] don't quote me on this i think it was
[46:10] more than a dozen years with no
[46:12] increases whatsoever and then suddenly
[46:14] we're faced with
[46:15] uh
[46:16] a whole pile of capital improvements of
[46:18] which the hospital district has to pay
[46:20] 40
[46:21] and so uh it's it's catch up big time uh
[46:25] for not
[46:26] taking those increase when the increases
[46:28] in the small amounts when they should
[46:29] have been taken
[46:31] it's a cautionary tale the same thing
[46:33] happened to us with our water um recall
[46:35] that we went about eight years or nine
[46:37] or ten years or something like that
[46:38] without an increase in the water rates
[46:40] and then all of a sudden we have nothing
[46:42] in the reserve and we're panicking to
[46:44] try and get the reserve back in place so
[46:46] you know as much as
[46:48] we look at some of these small
[46:49] incremental improvements and say well
[46:50] maybe we can defer that as you mentioned
[46:53] earlier jim i guess i'm just reinforcing
[46:54] your comment that you pay the piper
[46:57] sooner or later and if it's later the
[46:59] price is higher than if it's sooner
[47:04] thanks for that thanks for your comments
[47:06] council
[47:08] so
[47:09] the next few slides here are on
[47:10] non-market change we've we always just
[47:13] kind of
[47:14] we always discussed on market change but
[47:15] we always just kind of gloss over it
[47:17] so i just want to have a bit of a
[47:19] discussion in addition to everything
[47:21] else we're dealing with this year there
[47:22] was a bit of a hit to non-market change
[47:25] as well
[47:27] council recall on december 6th
[47:30] based on
[47:31] what bc assessment calls the preview
[47:33] role
[47:35] there was a preliminary estimate of
[47:36] non-market change calculated of two
[47:38] hundred and seven thousand dollars five
[47:40] two hundred seven five two hundred seven
[47:41] thousand five hundred and thirteen
[47:42] dollars
[47:44] uh we budget for hundred thousand
[47:45] dollars annually so that seemed to
[47:47] indicate that we would have a hundred
[47:48] and seven thousand dollars that we could
[47:50] use to fund new expenditures transfer to
[47:53] reserves
[47:55] to or to reduce the tax increase
[47:58] but the completed role came out which is
[48:01] an intermediary role we're still waiting
[48:03] on the revised assessment role which
[48:05] will come out in in april
[48:07] but based on the completed role that
[48:09] number has changed from 207 000 to 106
[48:12] 000 and that's not a that's not a final
[48:14] number yet either
[48:16] so what's happened is um
[48:20] actually i'll just go back to the
[48:22] previous page briefly so most of the
[48:25] time what we talk about when we're
[48:26] talking non-market changes
[48:28] is uh new property tax on new assessment
[48:31] so new assessment based on
[48:34] new builds mostly residential houses
[48:36] that are being built
[48:38] but non-market change can also result
[48:40] from
[48:41] boundary extension to bring in new
[48:42] assessment property class changes so
[48:45] changing from class one to six vice
[48:46] versa exemption status changes
[48:50] additions or deletions so that's the new
[48:52] construction
[48:54] inventory change or sorry inventory
[48:56] changes
[48:58] is the new construction additions or
[48:59] deletions i've got some examples of that
[49:01] on the next page
[49:02] and then zoning changes
[49:05] so on to the other page there so as i've
[49:07] noted here
[49:09] uh the most significant uh factor that
[49:11] contributed to the
[49:12] big reduction from that previous
[49:13] estimate to the the current estimate
[49:16] is a 4.6 million dollar reduction to the
[49:18] business class assessment as a result of
[49:20] non-market change
[49:23] 3.7 million of that is related to
[49:25] additions related to deletions
[49:29] which also ties into exemptions as i'll
[49:32] discuss in a bit a bit later here
[49:34] and then 1.9 million due to property
[49:37] class changes
[49:38] and then an increase of 931 thousand
[49:40] dollars due to exemption status change
[49:43] which relates primarily to bootleg
[49:45] primarily the previous being exempt and
[49:47] we're working our way towards full
[49:49] taxation on that
[49:51] so the deletions we're talking about
[49:54] relate almost entirely to save on foods
[49:57] so
[49:59] what happened there
[50:00] is
[50:01] that property was eligible for the
[50:03] revitalization revitalization tax
[50:05] exemption that we offer the kimberley
[50:07] investment incentive program
[50:10] so because that was a multi-year build
[50:13] uh in 2019 that
[50:15] the old store i think of the assessed
[50:16] value was 2.25 million dollars
[50:19] because they continued to use the new
[50:20] store while they were constructing use
[50:22] the old star wars like constructing a
[50:24] new one
[50:25] every year they would go look at that
[50:26] property at the end of october and
[50:29] assess what had been built there and
[50:31] they would add that
[50:32] assessment of the new building onto the
[50:34] old building to the point where at the
[50:35] end of 2021
[50:37] there was 5.5 million dollars in
[50:38] assessment there that two in change
[50:40] related to dual building the rest
[50:42] related to the new building
[50:44] 2022 came along
[50:47] they got final occupancy on the building
[50:48] moved into it demolished the old
[50:50] building
[50:51] so they removed the folio associated
[50:54] with the old building which was assessed
[50:56] at 5.5 million dollars year prior so
[50:58] that that dropped off
[51:00] the assessment role through non-market
[51:02] change
[51:03] they added the cost of the new building
[51:04] which is around six million dollars and
[51:06] then because they were eligible for that
[51:09] exemption they reduced that by 3.8
[51:12] million dollars
[51:13] so we saw a net reduction of about 3.25
[51:17] million dollars to class 6 as a result
[51:19] of that that building
[51:21] in particular
[51:22] so that was a huge hit probably fifty six thousand dollars
[51:28] alone um
[51:30] so the residential non-market assessment in
[51:33] 2022 it increased by about 33 million
[51:36] dollars which would give us about 160
[51:38] 000 in new tax
[51:40] so you deduct this 56 000 related to
[51:43] primarily to
[51:45] save on foods
[51:46] and then bc assessment there was a
[51:48] number of properties in
[51:51] up at the ski hills so
[51:52] north star mountain village and mountain
[51:55] spirit
[51:57] a bunch of those properties just because
[51:58] of the way they're they're zoned for use
[52:00] their split classification the portion
[52:03] for short-term rentals is class six and
[52:05] when the property owners are using it
[52:07] they
[52:07] allocate a portion of that to
[52:09] residential
[52:10] so there were 17 units in there that
[52:12] they
[52:13] um
[52:14] they ended up moving from that split
[52:16] classification to 100 percent
[52:19] uh residential
[52:20] so that was almost another
[52:22] i think of the 1.9 it was about 1.2
[52:25] million dollars related to that
[52:27] and as we know the tax rate for class
[52:28] six is about two and a half times the
[52:30] residential
[52:31] so you move from the higher classification into
[52:34] the lower you're going to lose a bunch
[52:35] of tax revenue so there's another
[52:37] 20 20 000 change that was lost there
[52:41] so that brings that 160 thousand dollars
[52:44] from residential there was another 19
[52:46] 000 i think related to
[52:49] recreation class to the good so that
[52:51] gets us back down to almost the budget
[52:53] amount
[52:56] so
[52:57] complicated explanation but i'm i'm
[52:59] hoping that that kind of explains to
[53:01] council what happened there that's it's
[53:03] an anomaly that unfortunately happened
[53:05] in a year where we're facing a bunch of
[53:07] other challenges so
[53:09] if that wouldn't happen we would have
[53:10] had a bunch of non-market change would
[53:12] could have helped offset that tax
[53:13] increase but
[53:15] counselor kiddo
[53:17] so does that mean we got a bunch of
[53:18] extra money when savon had two buildings
[53:20] down there
[53:22] we did get in 2022 when that assessment
[53:24] got up to 5.5 we received some
[53:26] additional non-market change there yeah
[53:30] so that exemption will it's a three year
[53:32] exemption so 22 3 4 and then in 2025
[53:35] we'll we'll get that assessment or that
[53:38] money back again
[53:43] so that brings us to the first um so so
[53:46] just
[53:47] so
[53:48] the
[53:49] 160 thousand or so that we got from that
[53:51] non it was it was a good thing we had a
[53:53] good year last year yes otherwise the
[53:55] pain was a whole lot more
[53:57] yeah it was a great year for residential
[54:01] construction i mean 33 million dollars
[54:02] that's a that's a big number
[54:08] so
[54:08] unless there's any questions
[54:11] on the previous slides here we'll move
[54:13] on to the first slide where i'm asking
[54:15] council for some direction
[54:17] that resolution being the council
[54:18] approved for inclusion in the five-year
[54:20] financial plan by law the proposed-based
[54:22] budget adjustments related to the
[54:24] general operating budget as detailed in
[54:25] slides 16-31 and the cfo's march 21st 22
[54:29] presentation to council that will allow
[54:31] us to proceed with bylaw
[54:46] thank you council thanks for your
[54:47] patience through that
[54:51] so the next section here is the aquatic
[54:53] center
[54:54] parcel tax and as a council is aware
[54:57] through kovid we've had some
[54:59] ups and downs ebbs and flows with this
[55:00] as well so just a bit of a recap on that
[55:03] um
[55:04] in 2019 we changed the aquatic center
[55:06] funding model so that
[55:08] uh the money collected through the
[55:09] parcel tax funds 100 of the operating
[55:11] deficit payments associated with that
[55:13] facility
[55:14] in 2020 with at the onset of covid we
[55:17] had already adopted a bylaw setting that
[55:19] rate at 195.91
[55:22] that was before we knew the extent to
[55:24] the extended facility shutdown
[55:27] so we ended up collecting 361 thousand
[55:29] dollars more in revenue than we needed
[55:31] that year to fund the deficit and debt
[55:32] payments so
[55:35] because
[55:36] parcel tax revenue can only be used
[55:39] to to
[55:40] pay for what it was the parcel tax was
[55:42] established for which was to fund the
[55:44] debt payments and operating the aquatic
[55:46] center
[55:46] what we did is we put that into a
[55:48] reserve specific to that parcel tax
[55:52] and
[55:53] what what we talked about doing with
[55:55] that was using it
[55:57] in 2021 to reduce the parcel tax levy so
[56:00] we were able to reduce the levy last
[56:03] year to
[56:04] 88.51 cents from that 195.81
[56:08] and in 2021
[56:11] the aquatic center actually ended up um
[56:14] making more revenue than we had
[56:16] anticipated so of that 361 000 we didn't
[56:19] need to use that all to make up for the
[56:22] um the deficit in 2021 so we were left
[56:24] with 63 000
[56:26] dollars in that reserve
[56:28] which on the next slide
[56:30] you'll see
[56:32] we use that to
[56:34] we through it against the 2022 parcel
[56:37] tax
[56:38] so if you take the operating revenue
[56:39] less expenditures less debt payments
[56:43] that's the amount left in that reserve
[56:45] we come up with uh
[56:47] a deficit including debt of 946 000
[56:52] and using a parcel tax parcel count of
[56:54] 4602 which could change albeit slightly
[56:58] uh with a revised role when it comes out
[57:00] in april
[57:01] that works out to a parcel tax of 205.67
[57:06] per year so
[57:07] we're really just getting back to that
[57:09] normal range in 2019 it was 198.36
[57:13] so now we're out up to 205.67
[57:16] and
[57:17] assuming we're not going to have um
[57:20] you know a big savings on the pool next
[57:22] year i don't anticipate that we're gonna
[57:25] we won't have a number like that to
[57:26] reduce the parcel tax buy so the
[57:31] works out to about 13 that we saved on
[57:33] the parcel tax this year because we had
[57:35] that amount in reserve we'll have to make that up next year
[57:45] so as the facility was shut down i know
[57:47] we had a lot of feedback from taxpayers
[57:50] that
[57:51] are my taxes going to be reduced as a
[57:52] result of you know the aquatic center
[57:54] not being used
[57:56] the answer was yes we gave that money
[57:58] back
[57:59] uh but now that we're in full operation
[58:01] again the 205 dollars is what it costs
[58:03] to operate so
[58:05] we gave the money back and now we're
[58:07] back to where we were when we started so
[58:08] it's not exactly an increase this year
[58:11] as as it is a writing of the ship uh
[58:14] back to where it was pre uh
[58:16] pre-lockdown
[58:17] exactly okay
[58:19] thank you jim yeah thanks for those
[58:20] comments
[58:22] so unless there's any questions on that
[58:23] on the next slide is that the next
[58:25] resolution i'm requesting from council
[58:27] uh which is the council direct staff to
[58:29] prepare an amendment to the current
[58:31] kimberley parcel tax bylaw
[58:33] to make the 2022 parcel tax 205 dollars
[58:36] and 67 cents
[58:38] mover please counselor roberts thank you
[58:41] councillor mcvean seconds
[58:43] uh further discussion uh i do have a
[58:45] question um
[58:47] relating to the operating revenue
[58:49] and expenses
[58:51] so at 340 000 i that's that seems to be
[58:54] going up uh over the last couple of
[58:56] years i seem to remember 300 kind of
[58:58] being the last conversation we had so my
[59:01] question is are the
[59:04] is the revenue going up lock step with
[59:06] the expenditures like are we continuing
[59:08] to kind of
[59:10] you know keep keep that
[59:12] you know keep that balance or kind of
[59:14] what's happening with respect to
[59:15] expenses and and revenues no that's that
[59:18] would be great if that would happen i
[59:20] mean we are the revenues are increasing
[59:22] by two percent a year um based on the
[59:25] increases anticipated in the in the fees
[59:27] bylaw
[59:28] um
[59:29] the expenditures are increasing on
[59:31] average by that two percent a little
[59:33] different this year but
[59:35] so that two percent of revenue is a lot
[59:38] less than that two percent of
[59:39] expenditures so that gap is going to
[59:41] continue to grow and grow and grow and
[59:42] there's really nothing we can do about
[59:45] that it's the subsidy or the deficit's
[59:47] going to continue to grow just because
[59:48] of the nature of the uh the relationship
[59:52] there between revenues and expenditures
[59:54] so uh i don't expect you to have the
[59:56] exact number but uh with respect to
[59:59] usage of the aquatic center is that
[1:00:01] remaining flat are we seeing an increase
[1:00:03] in that or because that's another way to
[1:00:05] increase
[1:00:06] yeah to close the gap obviously is to
[1:00:08] get more usage of the facility yeah and
[1:00:10] just i don't have that mr mayor the
[1:00:12] council will have the discussion uh or
[1:00:14] the the opportunity to ask those
[1:00:15] questions that
[1:00:17] the user fees bylaw for the wreck
[1:00:19] facilities is going to be coming forward
[1:00:21] um i anticipate in the next month here
[1:00:24] so i i would think that there's going to
[1:00:26] be some discussion about that in the
[1:00:27] staff report and an opportunity for
[1:00:29] council to
[1:00:30] ask some questions there all right very
[1:00:32] good thanks jim yep councillor dallin
[1:00:35] just in relation to that mr mayor um
[1:00:38] contingent on the pho order of uh
[1:00:42] necessary mandates perhaps
[1:00:45] usage will go up when that relaxes some
[1:00:47] more
[1:00:51] yeah perhaps although um
[1:00:56] yeah i get i guess i guess the question
[1:00:58] is where was it pre-covered
[1:01:00] you know versus you know kind of where
[1:01:02] are we coming out of it the you know the
[1:01:04] recreation facilities and aquatic the
[1:01:06] aquatic center in particular you know is
[1:01:08] one of those amenities in the community
[1:01:09] where you're never expected to make
[1:01:11] money i mean we're always going to be
[1:01:12] deficit financing
[1:01:13] and you know i know we've been
[1:01:15] struggling the last couple of years with
[1:01:17] staying inside the operating budget and
[1:01:20] we in fact have cut some hours and some
[1:01:23] corners at the aquatic center in order
[1:01:24] to stay inside that envelope and i guess
[1:01:27] uh as we prepare for that conversation
[1:01:29] later on
[1:01:30] um you know i i think we need to be very
[1:01:33] cautious about cutting back services you
[1:01:35] know at the aquatic center uh
[1:01:38] i think we need to look at ways of
[1:01:41] increasing revenues i guess is what i'm
[1:01:42] saying and hopefully that'll be a an
[1:01:45] important part of the conversation when
[1:01:46] we see the staff report
[1:01:50] thank you okay
[1:01:52] thank you mr mayor so
[1:01:54] yeah unless there's any other discussion
[1:01:56] um the the next slide is
[1:01:59] have we taken a vote on that already
[1:02:01] yeah okay thank you
[1:02:15] so the next section is proposed sewer
[1:02:17] operating based budget adjustments and
[1:02:19] council has had these discussions
[1:02:21] already on january 24th i presented a
[1:02:24] staff report on financial analysis of
[1:02:25] the new wastewater treatment plant
[1:02:27] so this is really just incorporating
[1:02:29] those changes into the budget with
[1:02:30] regards to
[1:02:32] that the debt payments that we had
[1:02:35] budgeted previously removing those from
[1:02:36] the budget incorporating
[1:02:39] the debt payments that we discussed at
[1:02:40] that meeting into the budget
[1:02:42] as well as the incremental operating
[1:02:44] expenditures associated with operating
[1:02:46] that new plan versus the old one when it
[1:02:48] when we flip the switch hopefully in
[1:02:51] 2026.
[1:02:53] so i've just reiterated the resolutions
[1:02:55] that were passed at that 24 january 24th
[1:02:58] meeting i won't read through those
[1:03:01] it does note at the bottom of this page
[1:03:03] there was some discussion on
[1:03:04] january 24th at that meeting about
[1:03:08] as a way of deferring the principal
[1:03:10] payments on the debt associated with the
[1:03:12] new plant
[1:03:14] um doing
[1:03:16] undertaking interim or temporary boring
[1:03:18] for the first few years so as as we
[1:03:21] we're gonna spend
[1:03:23] three million dollars in in year one
[1:03:25] three and year two and then have it
[1:03:26] operating in year three
[1:03:28] we temporarily borrow take out a short
[1:03:31] term borrowing bylaw uh that way we're
[1:03:34] only paying interest payments for for
[1:03:35] those first two years and then we enter
[1:03:38] the
[1:03:39] uh have the debenture issue and enter
[1:03:40] into the long-term debt in the third
[1:03:42] year so the numbers that are on the
[1:03:44] table on the next page
[1:03:45] that's what they they reflect
[1:03:48] is those estimated costs
[1:03:51] as discussed at that meeting we're
[1:03:53] basing the long-term borrowing on 30
[1:03:55] years
[1:03:56] at 3 percent uh which was the
[1:04:00] that number was arrived at after
[1:04:02] discussions with the mfa
[1:04:04] they made it very clear that that was uh
[1:04:07] an estimate as we know we can't predict
[1:04:09] what the rates are going to be at that
[1:04:10] time but
[1:04:13] so jim the concept of of temporary
[1:04:15] borrowing over the first couple three
[1:04:17] years until it's complete is that a
[1:04:19] traditional method
[1:04:21] very common yeah thank you
[1:04:32] that's correct yeah these are this is
[1:04:33] all the last three years of the
[1:04:34] five-year financial plan
[1:04:36] and of course all of that depends it
[1:04:38] hinges on the the grant application that
[1:04:40] we submitted for that facility
[1:04:42] so well march of 2023 i think is when
[1:04:45] we're hoping to hear on that
[1:04:49] so
[1:04:50] unless there's any questions with
[1:04:51] regards to this table
[1:04:53] i'll move on to the next slide and ask
[1:04:54] the council and prove approve the
[1:04:56] inclusion of these changes in the
[1:04:58] five-year plan
[1:05:13] sorry didn't have my mic on for those
[1:05:15] online uh the motion was carried
[1:05:20] okay thank you council
[1:05:22] so the last section of the report here
[1:05:24] we're done the operating side of things
[1:05:25] now we're into the the capital
[1:05:26] non-capital project plan
[1:05:29] um council initially approved uh the
[1:05:32] preliminary five-year capital
[1:05:33] non-capital project plan on november 1st
[1:05:36] there have been a number of changes
[1:05:38] since then
[1:05:39] the reason we approve it that early is
[1:05:41] so that we can any of the big projects
[1:05:44] that aren't already included in year two
[1:05:46] the five-year financial plan
[1:05:48] we want approval of those and then we
[1:05:50] actually make an amendment to the
[1:05:51] current five-year financial plan year to allow us to proceed with uh tenders
[1:05:55] and rfps for those larger projects
[1:05:58] since that time we've we've adopted a
[1:06:01] five-year financial plan bylaw that
[1:06:02] impacted some of those numbers
[1:06:05] some of the projects that
[1:06:07] we had budgeted in 2021 are being
[1:06:09] carried forward for a variety of reasons
[1:06:11] as one example we ordered a
[1:06:14] i think it was a tandem truck in january
[1:06:16] of 2021
[1:06:17] we still haven't received it i think
[1:06:19] we're anticipating receiving it this april so
[1:06:22] there are a variety reasons for these
[1:06:24] carry forwards but uh they're all noted
[1:06:27] in the in the index
[1:06:29] uh individually
[1:06:31] some there's been some subsequent
[1:06:32] council
[1:06:33] resolutions passed that impact the plan
[1:06:35] and there's a couple projects that have
[1:06:37] been added as well
[1:06:39] so the next page here
[1:06:41] and i'll go go through these
[1:06:44] the more significant ones anyways on the next couple of pages here in these
[1:06:47] tables and then
[1:06:49] um as noted
[1:06:52] they're they're all listed in the
[1:06:53] appendix i do have some other slides
[1:06:55] after this that include a bit of a
[1:06:57] narrative on some of these
[1:07:00] so
[1:07:01] the wastewater treatment plant that's
[1:07:03] the first four
[1:07:05] items on in this
[1:07:06] council's aware of those that was again
[1:07:08] further to the discussion
[1:07:12] at january 24th so just getting the
[1:07:14] updated numbers in there
[1:07:16] the kimberley gymnastics facility uh
[1:07:18] reconstruction
[1:07:20] as everyone's aware uh in on december
[1:07:23] 14th that facility was was lost to fire
[1:07:26] that facility will be is proposed to be
[1:07:29] rebuilt with a combination of insurance
[1:07:30] proceeds and some fundraising by the
[1:07:32] club
[1:07:33] so that that was added to the project at
[1:07:35] no cost to the city but it is an asset
[1:07:37] that will be added to our balance sheet
[1:07:39] so it's included in the budget
[1:07:41] the swan half park reconstruction or
[1:07:43] construction of that new park
[1:07:45] and i've got a bit of a blurb on that
[1:07:48] at a proposed cost of 222 000
[1:07:52] uh council passed a resolution at the
[1:07:54] february 28 regular meeting to increase
[1:07:56] the budget for the roofs at city hall
[1:07:57] and rcmp based on bids that were
[1:08:00] received
[1:08:01] and there's a couple of it budget items
[1:08:04] there refresh of the microsoft office
[1:08:06] we're taking that out value of 45 000
[1:08:08] because we're moving to subscription
[1:08:10] based
[1:08:11] so we will no longer need to do that
[1:08:13] and so in its place uh the manager of
[1:08:16] it is introducing uh conferencing
[1:08:19] equipment refresh
[1:08:20] so that's in 2026 so by that time that
[1:08:24] all the equipment has been added to this
[1:08:25] facility uh we'll look at uh refreshing
[1:08:27] that
[1:08:29] the um the boundary street reconduct
[1:08:32] reconstruction
[1:08:33] that's the next one two three four
[1:08:36] items there in november when this was
[1:08:39] presented council it was the entire
[1:08:41] budget that was presented including the
[1:08:42] city's portion and uh
[1:08:44] the third party portions so tech is is
[1:08:47] um doing some work in that same trench
[1:08:50] and it was proposed that the
[1:08:51] developer was going to do some work
[1:08:53] there as well so
[1:08:55] because
[1:08:56] we won't be funding
[1:08:58] those projects they won't be our assets
[1:09:00] at the end of the day
[1:09:02] we're just removing those from the
[1:09:03] capital budget and what's in appendix a
[1:09:05] is the the city's portion of that
[1:09:07] project
[1:09:09] um
[1:09:10] the tech portion of that we're not sure
[1:09:12] yet whether the developer portion is
[1:09:14] going to proceed but tech is committed
[1:09:15] to proceeding with their portion
[1:09:18] they're going to advance us the
[1:09:20] estimated cost of doing that project
[1:09:22] plus a contingency
[1:09:24] we're going to put that in the bank and use that money to pay
[1:09:28] the bills for their portion of the work
[1:09:30] as they come along so there'll be no
[1:09:31] impact to the city's cash flow as a
[1:09:33] result of that
[1:09:35] um
[1:09:38] next one down marysville arena building
[1:09:39] condition assessment council did receive
[1:09:42] a presentation about that uh i believe
[1:09:44] it was a last council meeting
[1:09:47] there there were millions of dollars
[1:09:49] worth of recommended um
[1:09:53] repairs work that needed to be done to
[1:09:55] those facilities
[1:09:56] and there was i think it was eighty two
[1:09:58] thousand dollars that was listed as
[1:10:00] immediate so safety
[1:10:03] concerns
[1:10:04] so the manager of parks and facilities
[1:10:07] has requested that those immediate
[1:10:10] expenditures of 37 300 for the
[1:10:13] marysville rink and 447 for the civic
[1:10:16] be included in the 2022 plan so we can
[1:10:18] take care of those
[1:10:20] then there's a staff report forthcoming
[1:10:22] from the manager to uh
[1:10:24] discuss with council that the rest of
[1:10:26] the recommendations that report get
[1:10:28] councils direction going forward on
[1:10:29] those
[1:10:32] the rest of these
[1:10:34] relate to
[1:10:36] the
[1:10:37] financial plan amendment bylaw 2708 and
[1:10:39] the carry forwards
[1:10:41] again they're they're detailed project
[1:10:44] by project and appendix
[1:10:46] um one
[1:10:47] so if council wants to discuss those uh
[1:10:49] please ask the questions i'm not going
[1:10:51] to go forward through them at this point
[1:10:52] in time
[1:10:54] there's a couple of non-capital items
[1:10:56] that were added to the list as well
[1:10:58] marysville arena removal of asbestos
[1:11:01] containing material
[1:11:03] so that's again that's a health and
[1:11:05] safety item
[1:11:07] that we want to get done in that
[1:11:09] facility regardless of
[1:11:11] you know
[1:11:12] what other
[1:11:14] repairs need to be done going forward
[1:11:16] over the longer term
[1:11:17] and then the last one is asset
[1:11:19] retirement obligation implementation
[1:11:22] which coincidentally kind of relates to
[1:11:23] the the item above it
[1:11:25] so in 2022
[1:11:27] the public sector accounting board is
[1:11:28] introducing a new standard whereby
[1:11:32] public bodies municipalities are
[1:11:34] obligated to recognize as a
[1:11:37] liability the cost of
[1:11:39] doing things like asbestos removal
[1:11:41] so if this building for example
[1:11:44] we got an estimate saying that
[1:11:47] when this building comes down now we're
[1:11:50] going to have to spend 50 000 on
[1:11:51] asbestos removal remediation
[1:11:54] we have to recognize that as a as a
[1:11:56] liability
[1:11:57] in 2022.
[1:11:59] the idea behind that i think being that
[1:12:02] they just want to force municipalities
[1:12:03] into planning for that
[1:12:05] so that when you know if and when we
[1:12:07] have to um
[1:12:09] demolish these buildings we're not
[1:12:10] having to scramble for the money to do it the expenditure has already
[1:12:14] been recognized
[1:12:16] so but that's a non-cash item
[1:12:19] that's a non-cash cash item yeah balance
[1:12:21] sheet is uh entry exactly it's going to
[1:12:23] look really strange on the uh
[1:12:26] and the financials when it happens but
[1:12:27] this is the reason for it
[1:12:29] so we we talked to uh an accounting firm
[1:12:32] in december and got a quote of eighteen
[1:12:33] thousand dollars to help with the
[1:12:35] remediation or the implementation and
[1:12:39] we're gonna have to modify our financial
[1:12:41] statements and some of our systems to
[1:12:42] accommodate this
[1:12:44] so i've got a budget of twenty thousand
[1:12:45] dollars in here um and just uh
[1:12:50] in case it uh went up a little bit so
[1:12:52] those are those are both non-capital
[1:12:54] items um all of these are funded from
[1:12:56] reserves so again they don't they don't
[1:12:58] impact
[1:13:00] the tax rates
[1:13:03] councilor roberts uh jim is that in
[1:13:04] addition to the previous uh general one
[1:13:07] uh about the general building condition
[1:13:10] for the arena of thirty seven thousand
[1:13:12] three hundred it is in addition to yeah
[1:13:14] that building condition assessment on
[1:13:16] marysville had that as a 2022
[1:13:19] item but it didn't have it listed under
[1:13:21] the immediate okay so it is in addition
[1:13:23] to that thank you
[1:13:26] good question
[1:13:29] so these next slides i think i've
[1:13:32] provided explanations already so the
[1:13:34] wastewater treatment plant gymnastics
[1:13:36] facility
[1:13:38] so on off park
[1:13:40] that's one app part by the way
[1:13:43] we first heard about that from some some
[1:13:46] really keen citizens that live in the
[1:13:47] swan half subdivision in january 13th of
[1:13:49] 2020 and they
[1:13:51] approached staff last year indicating
[1:13:53] that they had fundraised close to 120
[1:13:55] 000
[1:13:57] they asked the city to
[1:13:59] make an application to cbt for a hundred
[1:14:01] thousand dollars to
[1:14:03] complete the estimated cost or to
[1:14:05] complete that project at the estimated
[1:14:07] cost of 222 000. so if that grant is
[1:14:11] approved that will be the city's
[1:14:12] contribution to the project
[1:14:14] and the rest will be funded through the
[1:14:15] grant or the fundraising efforts of that
[1:14:18] those folks kelsey goodwin
[1:14:20] the cbt website is showing a 99 000
[1:14:23] grant to kimberly for the swan avenue
[1:14:26] park so goodness we didn't get it all
[1:14:29] but we got
[1:14:31] 99 out of 100.
[1:14:33] that's great news
[1:14:35] so if i may on uh using swann avenue
[1:14:38] park as an example
[1:14:40] so we have several of these community
[1:14:42] projects that come through the
[1:14:44] expectation is the city takes over
[1:14:47] maintenance of these facilities how do
[1:14:49] we account for that with respect to
[1:14:51] service levels for parks and facilities
[1:14:54] yeah that's a good point i think when
[1:14:56] that
[1:14:57] the request came forward to
[1:14:59] apply for that cbt grant i think there
[1:15:01] was an indication by the manager of
[1:15:02] parks and facilities in there that
[1:15:04] they were going to accommodate the
[1:15:05] increased maintenance of that facility
[1:15:07] within the existing
[1:15:09] workforce
[1:15:10] which okay you know means stretching
[1:15:12] them further
[1:15:13] something else we should be thinking
[1:15:14] about we should start doing
[1:15:16] easier said than done whenever we're
[1:15:18] adding a new asset like this is
[1:15:20] that the life of this equipment's going
[1:15:22] to be maybe 10 years
[1:15:24] so we should almost be putting 20 25 000
[1:15:27] a year away into a reserve
[1:15:30] to replace that
[1:15:32] when it gets time to replace
[1:15:34] so that's that's kind of the you know
[1:15:36] the overall cost of these new assets
[1:15:39] thank you
[1:15:43] the next one city hall rcmp roofs we've
[1:15:45] discussed that
[1:15:47] boundary street reconstruction we've
[1:15:48] discussed that
[1:15:50] the arena building condition assessment
[1:15:52] recommendations and then the last one
[1:15:55] the asset retirement obligation
[1:15:57] and and you will hear me talking more
[1:15:58] about that over the next year and uh
[1:16:01] i suspect that bdo will
[1:16:04] potentially be mentioning it
[1:16:06] during their presentation of the
[1:16:07] financial statements
[1:16:09] for 2021 and certainly for 2022 they'll
[1:16:11] be they'll be speaking to that as well
[1:16:15] so the last
[1:16:17] bit of direction i'm seeking from
[1:16:18] council is to
[1:16:20] improve the inclusion of of these
[1:16:22] changes in the five-year financial plan
[1:16:24] going forward and to approve the capital
[1:16:26] non-capital projects in appendix one for
[1:16:29] inclusion in the plan
[1:16:44] okay i guess that wasn't the last bit of
[1:16:45] direction um
[1:16:47] sorry a big deal there
[1:16:50] the next slide is proposed next steps so
[1:16:55] based on the direction the council is
[1:16:56] provided here there is one more piece of
[1:16:58] direction here but
[1:17:00] i'm proposing that at the april 25th
[1:17:01] regular meeting um
[1:17:04] the five-year financial plan bylaw tax
[1:17:06] rates bylaw and aquatic center parcel
[1:17:07] tax bylaw be brought forward for
[1:17:09] consideration the first three readings
[1:17:11] brought back for adoption on may 9th and
[1:17:13] then processing of
[1:17:15] mailing of the tax notices
[1:17:17] over the next couple of weeks
[1:17:19] so that the next and last direction i'm
[1:17:22] seeking from council is
[1:17:23] to send staff away to
[1:17:26] draft fire financial plan violent tax
[1:17:28] rates by law
[1:17:41] thank you council
[1:17:48] appreciate your
[1:17:49] again your patience
[1:17:56] i think it's important for us to
[1:17:57] remember
[1:18:03] roughly
[1:18:24] and when you consider the size of budgie
[1:18:47] i have have actually done a uh
[1:18:49] a very uh thoughtful
[1:18:52] and um i'm searching for the right word
[1:18:55] here it it's uh
[1:18:57] yeah it's it's a it's a respectful budget uh
[1:19:02] under the circumstances the very
[1:19:03] difficult circumstances that we're
[1:19:05] operating in these days and we're doing
[1:19:07] this without sacrificing any city
[1:19:09] services and in fact as we move into
[1:19:12] next year we're looking at the
[1:19:13] possibility of increasing service so
[1:19:17] um
[1:19:21] sorry about that
[1:19:23] so uh uh you know thanks so much jim and staff uh scott and staff for uh you
[1:19:29] know all the great work on on you know
[1:19:31] getting us to where we need to be for
[1:19:32] 2022. councilor mcbain
[1:19:35] yeah i think i think the word i would
[1:19:37] use to describe um and i think i've used
[1:19:39] it before jim for your presentations is
[1:19:41] digestible
[1:19:43] um it's it it's it becomes makes our job
[1:19:46] a lot easier um the explanations that
[1:19:48] you provide um i know it helps it helps
[1:19:51] me a lot and
[1:19:52] i really really appreciate it and i hope
[1:19:55] you know when folks listen in um they
[1:19:57] get the uh they get the same sense of
[1:20:00] what we
[1:20:02] come to appreciate from you so yeah it's
[1:20:04] great yeah thanks i really appreciate
[1:20:06] the comments it lets me know that i'm
[1:20:08] kind of on the right track with this
[1:20:09] stuff it is
[1:20:10] my whole goal putting this together is
[1:20:12] really to to make it understandable and
[1:20:14] digestible so that's if i've done that
[1:20:16] that's that's great to hear thanks
[1:20:22] scott do you
[1:20:27] wish to weigh in with any comments
[1:20:32] i'll just keep it short um jim thanks
[1:20:35] again great job
[1:20:38] um thanks you know
[1:20:40] crisis management is one thing but uh
[1:20:43] we seem to be stacking crises lately
[1:20:46] um so you know whether it's inflation or
[1:20:49] uh oil prices and gas prices going
[1:20:51] through the roof
[1:20:52] uh more in europe or pandemic
[1:20:56] jim's kept a steady hand on the wheel
[1:20:57] and has guided us through so uh tough
[1:21:00] budget um i really appreciate jim and
[1:21:03] the rest of staff's hard work
[1:21:05] and uh thank you to council for um
[1:21:07] having trust in us all
[1:21:10] thank you scott
[1:21:12] anything further council
[1:21:15] all right uh we have um
[1:21:19] some correspondence that we need to uh
[1:21:22] receive this evening
[1:21:24] uh two letters as a matter of fact could
[1:21:26] i have a motion to receive
[1:21:29] counselor goodwin thank you and
[1:21:30] counselor kiddo seconds
[1:21:32] any uh
[1:21:33] any comments
[1:21:39] terry nunn call the question on receipt
[1:21:41] all those in favor
[1:21:43] the motion is passed
[1:21:46] and i think unless council has any
[1:21:48] further comments or jim last call
[1:21:51] um
[1:21:52] no just again thanks to thanks to
[1:21:54] council
[1:21:55] thanks to staff as well there's a lot of
[1:21:57] time and effort to put into um coming up
[1:22:00] with this stuff from from all of the
[1:22:03] managers so
[1:22:04] yeah no doubt yeah so thank them
[1:22:07] you don't make this stuff up
[1:22:11] okay awesome uh move adjournment
[1:22:14] counselor dallas moves counselor goodwin
[1:22:16] seconds all those in favor
[1:22:19] motion is carried thanks folks we're
[1:22:21] done
[1:22:28] i'm glad you remember that