1 00:04:37,998 --> 00:04:40,398 All right. Good afternoon 2 00:04:40,435 --> 00:04:40,935 everyone. I want to call to 3 00:04:40,935 --> 00:04:42,236 order today 4 00:04:42,236 --> 00:04:43,504 s meeting of the 5 00:04:43,504 --> 00:04:45,504 King County Transportation 6 00:04:45,907 --> 00:04:46,890 District Executive Committee. 7 00:04:46,890 --> 00:04:48,890 It 8 00:04:48,576 --> 00:04:49,610 s MAY 27th, 2026. My name is 9 00:04:49,610 --> 00:04:50,111 Claudia Balducci. I 10 00:04:50,111 --> 00:04:52,111 m the chair 11 00:04:52,747 --> 00:04:54,140 of the Board of supervisors. I 12 00:04:54,140 --> 00:04:56,414 am joined by executive 13 00:04:57,818 --> 00:04:59,521 committee members. Uh, vice 14 00:04:59,521 --> 00:05:00,788 Chair Fain and board members 15 00:05:00,788 --> 00:05:02,222 Dan Boesky and Perry. Thank you 16 00:05:02,222 --> 00:05:04,458 all for giving it the office 17 00:05:04,458 --> 00:05:06,794 here with this relatively new, 18 00:05:06,794 --> 00:05:09,230 uh, structure. Uh, this is our 19 00:05:09,230 --> 00:05:10,298 second meeting of the executive 20 00:05:10,298 --> 00:05:11,990 committee. And as you can see, 21 00:05:11,990 --> 00:05:12,660 we are, uh, we 22 00:05:12,660 --> 00:05:13,100 re taking leaps 23 00:05:13,100 --> 00:05:15,336 and bounds in terms of 24 00:05:15,336 --> 00:05:17,505 formality and, uh, and our 25 00:05:17,505 --> 00:05:20,174 operations here, uh, at our 26 00:05:20,174 --> 00:05:23,174 last full board meeting, which 27 00:05:23,344 --> 00:05:25,580 was on MAY 15th, uh, we had a 28 00:05:25,580 --> 00:05:26,614 very robust and wide ranging 29 00:05:26,614 --> 00:05:28,115 debate. And it was the second 30 00:05:28,115 --> 00:05:29,183 meeting in a row where we did 31 00:05:29,183 --> 00:05:29,417 that. And I think we 32 00:05:29,417 --> 00:05:30,718 ve been 33 00:05:30,718 --> 00:05:32,253 making a lot of progress at 34 00:05:32,253 --> 00:05:34,322 each of these meetings. And we 35 00:05:34,322 --> 00:05:35,556 have gotten very close to the 36 00:05:35,556 --> 00:05:36,824 place where I feel confident 37 00:05:36,824 --> 00:05:39,760 that we will be able to take up 38 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:41,362 votes, vote on a proposal for, 39 00:05:41,362 --> 00:05:43,197 uh, potential road funding, 40 00:05:43,197 --> 00:05:44,231 vote on a potential for, uh, 41 00:05:44,231 --> 00:05:46,701 how we direct that road 42 00:05:46,701 --> 00:05:48,235 funding. And then, uh, we need 43 00:05:48,235 --> 00:05:50,338 to very quickly should those 44 00:05:50,338 --> 00:05:52,674 either of those successful go 45 00:05:52,674 --> 00:05:53,941 to turn to how we operate this 46 00:05:53,941 --> 00:05:55,176 thing called the King County 47 00:05:55,176 --> 00:05:56,411 Transportation District because 48 00:05:56,411 --> 00:05:57,745 it has been an unfunded 49 00:05:57,745 --> 00:05:59,414 organization for the entirety 50 00:05:59,414 --> 00:06:00,715 of its existence. I want to 51 00:06:00,715 --> 00:06:01,616 acknowledge an error I made in 52 00:06:01,616 --> 00:06:02,683 a comment previously where I 53 00:06:02,683 --> 00:06:04,252 said it has been in existence 54 00:06:04,252 --> 00:06:06,787 for 14 years. It has been in 55 00:06:06,787 --> 00:06:08,723 existence since 2014, so only 56 00:06:08,723 --> 00:06:09,824 12 years. But there we go. Just 57 00:06:09,824 --> 00:06:12,626 to be accurate, just to be 58 00:06:12,626 --> 00:06:14,562 accurate. Um, but at the last 59 00:06:14,562 --> 00:06:16,297 board meeting on MAY 15th, it 60 00:06:16,297 --> 00:06:17,298 did. We did arrive at a place 61 00:06:17,298 --> 00:06:17,473 where at least I, as the chair, 62 00:06:17,473 --> 00:06:18,265 I 63 00:06:18,265 --> 00:06:19,667 ll just speak for myself, 64 00:06:19,667 --> 00:06:21,736 felt that we could use a little 65 00:06:21,736 --> 00:06:23,571 bit more thought around some of 66 00:06:23,571 --> 00:06:24,705 the specific details of the 67 00:06:24,705 --> 00:06:26,173 proposals and the amendments 68 00:06:26,173 --> 00:06:27,641 before us, so that we were 69 00:06:27,641 --> 00:06:28,742 prepared to move into action. 70 00:06:28,742 --> 00:06:29,510 And everybody on the board 71 00:06:29,510 --> 00:06:29,777 understands what they 72 00:06:29,777 --> 00:06:31,780 re being 73 00:06:31,780 --> 00:06:33,810 asked to vote on. You vote how 74 00:06:33,810 --> 00:06:33,581 you vote yes. No. Offer 75 00:06:33,581 --> 00:06:33,914 amendments don 76 00:06:33,914 --> 00:06:35,350 t offer 77 00:06:35,350 --> 00:06:36,170 amendments. But people should 78 00:06:36,170 --> 00:06:36,350 understand what they 79 00:06:36,350 --> 00:06:38,350 re being 80 00:06:38,852 --> 00:06:40,540 asked to vote on. So, uh, a 81 00:06:40,540 --> 00:06:40,855 couple people suggested, and I 82 00:06:40,855 --> 00:06:43,357 thought it was a really good 83 00:06:43,357 --> 00:06:46,260 idea that we hold an executive 84 00:06:46,260 --> 00:06:47,862 committee meeting before the 85 00:06:47,862 --> 00:06:49,497 next full board meeting so that 86 00:06:49,497 --> 00:06:49,681 we can talk through where we 87 00:06:49,681 --> 00:06:51,232 re 88 00:06:51,232 --> 00:06:53,334 at in this process, and this 89 00:06:53,334 --> 00:06:54,469 body can give any guidance to 90 00:06:54,469 --> 00:06:55,403 help us be successful at our 91 00:06:55,403 --> 00:06:57,305 next full board meeting, which 92 00:06:57,305 --> 00:06:57,504 is, after all, our job. So 93 00:06:57,504 --> 00:06:57,772 that 94 00:06:57,772 --> 00:06:58,106 s where we 95 00:06:58,106 --> 00:07:00,106 re at for 96 00:07:00,742 --> 00:07:01,308 today. Um, what we 97 00:07:01,308 --> 00:07:03,308 ve got on 98 00:07:04,913 --> 00:07:05,980 the agenda is an update. Let me 99 00:07:05,980 --> 00:07:08,283 make sure I have my agenda in 100 00:07:08,283 --> 00:07:08,950 front of me. Here it is. Uh, we 101 00:07:08,950 --> 00:07:09,183 have on the agenda. It 102 00:07:09,183 --> 00:07:10,718 s a 103 00:07:10,718 --> 00:07:13,188 brief agenda, but we are going 104 00:07:13,188 --> 00:07:15,522 to have a briefing on, uh, 105 00:07:15,522 --> 00:07:18,393 policy issues and process for 106 00:07:18,393 --> 00:07:19,861 the revenue. Uh, and revenue 107 00:07:19,861 --> 00:07:22,261 direction resolutions that are 108 00:07:22,630 --> 00:07:24,699 currently before the code. And 109 00:07:24,699 --> 00:07:26,534 then talking about a work plan 110 00:07:26,534 --> 00:07:28,269 and next steps for the case, 111 00:07:28,269 --> 00:07:29,737 because we will have to very 112 00:07:29,737 --> 00:07:31,171 quickly become much more 113 00:07:31,171 --> 00:07:32,773 operational and figure out the 114 00:07:32,773 --> 00:07:34,410 future of some policy decisions 115 00:07:34,410 --> 00:07:36,177 we have to make about how this 116 00:07:36,177 --> 00:07:36,477 operates, how the ctd operates 117 00:07:36,477 --> 00:07:38,477 or doesn 118 00:07:40,381 --> 00:07:42,283 t. Um, now let me ask 119 00:07:42,283 --> 00:07:44,318 for the clerk to please call 120 00:07:44,318 --> 00:07:46,987 the roll. Thank you. Thank you. 121 00:07:46,987 --> 00:07:48,422 Supervisor Fein. Here. 122 00:07:48,422 --> 00:07:50,422 Supervisor Dmowski here. 123 00:07:51,225 --> 00:07:53,427 Supervisor Perry here. Chair 124 00:07:53,427 --> 00:07:54,862 Balducci here. You have a full 125 00:07:54,862 --> 00:07:55,996 quorum. 126 00:07:55,996 --> 00:07:56,263 All right. Thank you. I 127 00:07:56,263 --> 00:07:57,898 d like 128 00:07:57,898 --> 00:08:00,670 to ask for a motion to approve 129 00:08:00,670 --> 00:08:01,268 the minutes of our APRIL 22nd 130 00:08:01,268 --> 00:08:03,268 executive committee meeting, 131 00:08:03,471 --> 00:08:04,639 please. So moved. Thank you. It 132 00:08:04,639 --> 00:08:05,907 is before us there in your 133 00:08:05,907 --> 00:08:07,907 pockets. Any comments, 134 00:08:08,420 --> 00:08:10,778 questions or changes on the 135 00:08:10,778 --> 00:08:11,879 minutes hearing? None. All 136 00:08:11,879 --> 00:08:13,140 those in favor of approving the 137 00:08:13,140 --> 00:08:15,414 minutes, please signify by 138 00:08:16,284 --> 00:08:18,586 saying I. I any opposed? Please 139 00:08:18,586 --> 00:08:19,420 say nay. The minutes are 140 00:08:19,420 --> 00:08:19,820 approved. Now we 141 00:08:19,820 --> 00:08:21,820 ll turn to 142 00:08:23,290 --> 00:08:24,626 public comment. Um, people who 143 00:08:24,626 --> 00:08:25,993 wish to provide public comment 144 00:08:25,993 --> 00:08:27,610 can testify in person or in 145 00:08:27,610 --> 00:08:28,229 zoom. It is an important part 146 00:08:28,229 --> 00:08:28,596 of our process to hear from the 147 00:08:28,596 --> 00:08:29,430 public. We 148 00:08:29,430 --> 00:08:30,330 re glad that those 149 00:08:30,330 --> 00:08:31,932 of you who are here or have 150 00:08:31,932 --> 00:08:33,467 called in to give us public, 151 00:08:33,467 --> 00:08:35,903 public comments are doing so 152 00:08:35,903 --> 00:08:37,104 today. Uh, if you wish to 153 00:08:37,104 --> 00:08:39,390 submit written comment to this 154 00:08:39,390 --> 00:08:40,308 committee, you MAY, and we ask 155 00:08:40,308 --> 00:08:42,476 that you do so by sending an 156 00:08:42,476 --> 00:08:43,144 email to the email address 157 00:08:43,144 --> 00:08:45,144 clerk. That 158 00:08:46,847 --> 00:08:47,320 s kkclerk. There 159 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:47,348 s 160 00:08:47,348 --> 00:08:48,983 too many k 161 00:08:48,983 --> 00:08:51,185 s. Uh, at King 162 00:08:51,185 --> 00:08:53,788 County gov. And please write 163 00:08:53,788 --> 00:08:55,122 the topic and the letters in 164 00:08:55,122 --> 00:08:56,758 the subject line that will help 165 00:08:56,758 --> 00:08:59,293 ensure that your comment gets 166 00:08:59,293 --> 00:09:01,395 to its intended destination. 167 00:09:01,395 --> 00:09:02,397 All right. Uh, some specifics 168 00:09:02,397 --> 00:09:03,898 about how we will do public 169 00:09:03,898 --> 00:09:04,932 comment to maintain decorum and 170 00:09:04,932 --> 00:09:05,132 to focus on the agenda at 171 00:09:05,132 --> 00:09:06,233 today 172 00:09:06,233 --> 00:09:07,602 s committee. The 173 00:09:07,602 --> 00:09:09,103 following rules are in place 174 00:09:09,103 --> 00:09:10,504 for all public comment. 175 00:09:10,504 --> 00:09:11,839 Speakers should please remain 176 00:09:11,839 --> 00:09:12,773 seated until called upon to 177 00:09:12,773 --> 00:09:14,508 speak. Then we ask that you 178 00:09:14,508 --> 00:09:15,976 approach the podium, state your 179 00:09:15,976 --> 00:09:17,811 name, speak to the agenda item 180 00:09:17,811 --> 00:09:19,790 at hand. All public comments 181 00:09:19,790 --> 00:09:19,280 should be related to items on 182 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:20,314 today 183 00:09:20,314 --> 00:09:22,383 s meeting agenda. I 184 00:09:22,383 --> 00:09:23,718 talked about that earlier and 185 00:09:23,718 --> 00:09:25,520 not be used for purposes of 186 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:26,453 assisting a campaign for 187 00:09:26,453 --> 00:09:28,355 election of any person to any 188 00:09:28,355 --> 00:09:29,624 office, nor for promotion of or 189 00:09:29,624 --> 00:09:31,626 opposition to any ballot 190 00:09:31,626 --> 00:09:33,294 proposition. We ask that public 191 00:09:33,294 --> 00:09:34,996 comment not include obscene 192 00:09:34,996 --> 00:09:36,980 speech. Uh, if the speaker 193 00:09:36,980 --> 00:09:37,331 fails to abide by any of these 194 00:09:37,331 --> 00:09:38,832 restrictions, I MAY roll them 195 00:09:38,832 --> 00:09:40,501 out of order and MAY, in 196 00:09:40,501 --> 00:09:42,336 extreme cases, have the speaker 197 00:09:42,336 --> 00:09:43,670 removed from the meeting. Each 198 00:09:43,670 --> 00:09:45,730 speaker will have two minutes 199 00:09:45,730 --> 00:09:46,707 to speak, and there will be a 200 00:09:46,707 --> 00:09:48,275 timer. When the timer 201 00:09:48,275 --> 00:09:49,544 completes. Please do finish 202 00:09:49,544 --> 00:09:51,545 your thought. Uh, if you go 203 00:09:51,545 --> 00:09:53,180 much past two minutes, you will 204 00:09:53,180 --> 00:09:55,216 certainly be interrupted and 205 00:09:55,216 --> 00:09:55,683 MAY ultimately be muted. All 206 00:09:55,683 --> 00:09:56,517 right, let 207 00:09:56,517 --> 00:09:57,584 s start by calling 208 00:09:57,584 --> 00:09:59,153 on people who have signed up to 209 00:09:59,153 --> 00:10:00,321 speak in person. 210 00:10:00,321 --> 00:10:01,755 Thank you. Chair. The first 211 00:10:01,755 --> 00:10:05,355 name on the list is Alex 212 00:10:16,637 --> 00:10:18,637 Zimmerman. 213 00:10:18,839 --> 00:10:20,541 And I want to speak about 214 00:10:20,541 --> 00:10:21,409 agenda number two. Is your 215 00:10:21,409 --> 00:10:23,430 plan. I 216 00:10:23,430 --> 00:10:25,443 m PRESIDENT Of Stand-Up 217 00:10:26,113 --> 00:10:27,915 America. I candidate 15 times 218 00:10:27,915 --> 00:10:29,517 for re-election. King County 219 00:10:29,517 --> 00:10:31,917 Council persecuted me seven 220 00:10:32,587 --> 00:10:35,189 times. Yes, and seven times 221 00:10:35,189 --> 00:10:37,291 dismissed. And I have 7000 days 222 00:10:37,291 --> 00:10:38,492 of trespass. So right now I 223 00:10:38,492 --> 00:10:41,492 want to speak about something 224 00:10:42,229 --> 00:10:43,865 with a critical ten year ago. 225 00:10:43,865 --> 00:10:46,400 You have a very interesting 226 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:48,435 plan. Yeah. What is include 227 00:10:48,435 --> 00:10:50,835 Sound Transit, the Sound 228 00:10:51,238 --> 00:10:52,873 Transit ten year ago. Ten year 229 00:10:52,873 --> 00:10:55,142 ago, and for many years before 230 00:10:55,142 --> 00:10:56,810 you trespass me many times I 231 00:10:56,810 --> 00:10:59,147 talking about Ponzi scheme for 232 00:10:59,147 --> 00:11:01,547 $200 billion. That is exactly 233 00:11:02,616 --> 00:11:05,190 sound transit. Half. So last 234 00:11:05,190 --> 00:11:06,654 week Seattle Times. What is 235 00:11:06,654 --> 00:11:08,422 very unusual for me because for 236 00:11:08,422 --> 00:11:10,758 40 years I never see Seattle 237 00:11:10,758 --> 00:11:13,610 time talking about Democrat 238 00:11:13,610 --> 00:11:14,795 Mafia, a bandit whose blood and 239 00:11:14,795 --> 00:11:17,598 money from us in the first 240 00:11:17,598 --> 00:11:20,334 page. First page talking about 241 00:11:20,334 --> 00:11:22,637 $36 billion. What is some 242 00:11:22,637 --> 00:11:24,138 transit steal from people? This 243 00:11:24,138 --> 00:11:25,740 is exactly what is happening. 244 00:11:25,740 --> 00:11:29,110 What does this mean? Is mean 245 00:11:29,110 --> 00:11:30,711 all America? No. Are about this 246 00:11:30,711 --> 00:11:32,546 because Seattle Times did this 247 00:11:32,546 --> 00:11:34,282 couple times before. But first 248 00:11:34,282 --> 00:11:36,683 page is sold to All America 249 00:11:36,683 --> 00:11:38,119 right now. Who you are is is 250 00:11:38,119 --> 00:11:40,254 exactly what has happened with 251 00:11:40,254 --> 00:11:41,789 you. This is a nightmare. What, 252 00:11:41,789 --> 00:11:43,790 as I see here for 30 years, 253 00:11:43,790 --> 00:11:45,493 what is? I come and speak. What 254 00:11:45,493 --> 00:11:47,661 is you doing? This idiotic 255 00:11:47,661 --> 00:11:50,610 situation. I cannot understand 256 00:11:50,865 --> 00:11:53,865 how this possible. Make mistake 257 00:11:53,934 --> 00:11:55,436 for Tory. $6 billion is not a 258 00:11:55,436 --> 00:11:55,604 mistake you do in government. 259 00:11:55,604 --> 00:11:56,203 I 260 00:11:56,203 --> 00:11:57,705 ve been assuming you were 261 00:11:57,705 --> 00:11:57,884 going to get around to the. 262 00:11:57,884 --> 00:11:59,884 Yes. 263 00:12:00,740 --> 00:12:01,141 Exactly. 264 00:12:01,141 --> 00:12:02,343 Not to the sound of sound. 265 00:12:02,343 --> 00:12:02,910 Transit is not on the agenda 266 00:12:02,910 --> 00:12:04,910 today. 267 00:12:05,713 --> 00:12:07,615 Okay. Your American Revolution, 268 00:12:07,615 --> 00:12:09,616 stand up slave and happy cow. 269 00:12:09,616 --> 00:12:11,319 Stop stealing us money. Is very 270 00:12:11,319 --> 00:12:12,586 simple. Why? You cannot do in 271 00:12:12,586 --> 00:12:14,422 this. 272 00:12:14,422 --> 00:12:15,756 That was on topic. Thank you. 273 00:12:15,756 --> 00:12:17,191 Um, I just want to state for 274 00:12:17,191 --> 00:12:18,392 the record that the King County 275 00:12:18,392 --> 00:12:19,894 Council has never prosecuted 276 00:12:19,894 --> 00:12:21,295 MR. Zimmerman. And if we ban 277 00:12:21,295 --> 00:12:22,597 somebody for 7000 days, that 278 00:12:22,597 --> 00:12:23,130 would be 19 years. And we 279 00:12:23,130 --> 00:12:23,631 definitely haven 280 00:12:23,631 --> 00:12:25,631 t done that 281 00:12:26,233 --> 00:12:27,601 either. So, uh, just for the 282 00:12:27,601 --> 00:12:27,778 record, let the record reflect 283 00:12:27,778 --> 00:12:28,836 who 284 00:12:28,836 --> 00:12:30,171 s next. 285 00:12:30,171 --> 00:12:34,371 The next name on the list is 286 00:12:36,744 --> 00:12:37,444 Avery. 287 00:12:37,444 --> 00:12:38,780 Hello. Hello, I 288 00:12:38,780 --> 00:12:39,913 m Avery. 289 00:12:39,913 --> 00:12:41,382 Firstly, I want to thank you 290 00:12:41,382 --> 00:12:42,416 all for all the hard work that 291 00:12:42,416 --> 00:12:43,951 you and the staff has done on 292 00:12:43,951 --> 00:12:46,187 this, making sure that we spend 293 00:12:46,187 --> 00:12:47,221 only spend this regressive tax 294 00:12:47,221 --> 00:12:47,788 on only the most critical 295 00:12:47,788 --> 00:12:48,823 needs. I 296 00:12:48,823 --> 00:12:50,124 m concerned about the 297 00:12:50,124 --> 00:12:51,792 targeted restrictions against 298 00:12:51,792 --> 00:12:53,861 Seattle and against transit 299 00:12:53,861 --> 00:12:55,290 spending. Cities like Seattle 300 00:12:55,290 --> 00:12:56,864 have fought long battles to 301 00:12:56,864 --> 00:12:58,833 transform into some semblance 302 00:12:58,833 --> 00:13:01,202 of a transit city. This took 303 00:13:01,202 --> 00:13:02,350 work and leadership by both the 304 00:13:02,350 --> 00:13:03,671 government officials, 305 00:13:03,671 --> 00:13:05,640 volunteers, advocates, and so 306 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:08,750 many more to spend the money it 307 00:13:08,750 --> 00:13:09,744 takes to make the change. Link 308 00:13:09,744 --> 00:13:12,179 light rail is popular. Help 309 00:13:12,179 --> 00:13:14,181 people get to it. Also, we all 310 00:13:14,181 --> 00:13:15,115 know cars cannot be this large 311 00:13:15,115 --> 00:13:17,318 of a component of our 312 00:13:17,318 --> 00:13:18,652 transportation network, so we 313 00:13:18,652 --> 00:13:20,387 need to make sure transit is 314 00:13:20,387 --> 00:13:23,387 expanding as fast as possible 315 00:13:23,624 --> 00:13:24,891 in both frequency and coverage. 316 00:13:24,891 --> 00:13:26,794 I look forward to doing that 317 00:13:26,794 --> 00:13:28,362 next, but in the meantime, help 318 00:13:28,362 --> 00:13:28,696 Seattle pay for large portions 319 00:13:28,696 --> 00:13:29,964 of the region 320 00:13:29,964 --> 00:13:31,732 s transit and 321 00:13:31,732 --> 00:13:33,534 allow cities the option to 322 00:13:33,534 --> 00:13:33,705 spend on transit. Or, if we 323 00:13:33,705 --> 00:13:34,668 can 324 00:13:34,668 --> 00:13:35,836 t agree on what that looks 325 00:13:35,836 --> 00:13:36,203 like, maybe we cut the pass 326 00:13:36,203 --> 00:13:37,839 through. I don 327 00:13:37,839 --> 00:13:39,720 t know. I hope 328 00:13:39,720 --> 00:13:40,441 the language of this resolution 329 00:13:40,441 --> 00:13:42,841 and the interlocal agreements 330 00:13:43,111 --> 00:13:44,178 we talk about next will be, 331 00:13:44,178 --> 00:13:46,280 will be, will allocate this 332 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:48,415 money based on an equitable and 333 00:13:48,415 --> 00:13:50,317 not burdensome system with a 334 00:13:50,317 --> 00:13:52,185 mindset focusing on getting 335 00:13:52,185 --> 00:13:53,320 people into sustainable and 336 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,123 affordable transportation 337 00:13:55,123 --> 00:13:58,593 systems. I hope you can start 338 00:13:58,593 --> 00:14:00,161 with baluchis. Amendment to be 339 00:14:00,161 --> 00:14:02,229 as the baseline, and I hope you 340 00:14:02,229 --> 00:14:04,265 can figure out how to lift or 341 00:14:04,265 --> 00:14:04,632 change the 15% cap. And I don 342 00:14:04,632 --> 00:14:06,266 t 343 00:14:06,266 --> 00:14:07,301 think the 10,000 minimum seems 344 00:14:07,301 --> 00:14:10,238 like a sensible thing that 345 00:14:10,238 --> 00:14:11,171 benefits the right people. I 346 00:14:11,171 --> 00:14:11,805 also ask that you include 347 00:14:11,805 --> 00:14:12,440 council member Mosquito 348 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:14,241 s 349 00:14:14,241 --> 00:14:15,676 request to the Executive and 350 00:14:15,676 --> 00:14:15,976 Metro to start working soon. On 351 00:14:15,976 --> 00:14:17,511 what Metro 352 00:14:17,511 --> 00:14:18,612 s transit package 353 00:14:18,612 --> 00:14:19,914 will be able to deliver, so 354 00:14:19,914 --> 00:14:21,315 that we can have less of these 355 00:14:21,315 --> 00:14:23,160 confusing debates when we do 356 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:24,850 that topic. Next, thank you for 357 00:14:24,850 --> 00:14:25,152 your work. 358 00:14:25,152 --> 00:14:26,386 Thank you. 359 00:14:26,386 --> 00:14:30,586 The next name on the list is 360 00:14:32,126 --> 00:14:33,360 Noah Williams. 361 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:34,294 Hi Council members, thank you. 362 00:14:34,294 --> 00:14:34,795 For the record, my name is Noah 363 00:14:34,795 --> 00:14:35,196 Williams and I 364 00:14:35,196 --> 00:14:36,230 m a member of 365 00:14:36,230 --> 00:14:39,230 the Transit Writers Union here 366 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:41,468 in Seattle. Um, so I appreciate 367 00:14:41,468 --> 00:14:42,703 your work on this. Uh, and I 368 00:14:42,703 --> 00:14:43,437 just, I hope that the board 369 00:14:43,437 --> 00:14:45,437 s 370 00:14:45,906 --> 00:14:48,760 final plan meets the intent to 371 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:50,144 be as equitable as as, uh, as 372 00:14:50,144 --> 00:14:51,478 advertised. Um, I have some 373 00:14:51,478 --> 00:14:53,130 concerns about the scope of 374 00:14:53,130 --> 00:14:54,114 capacity expansion versus 375 00:14:54,114 --> 00:14:56,514 maintenance. Per the needs 376 00:14:57,450 --> 00:14:58,553 report. Um, the road expansions 377 00:14:58,553 --> 00:15:00,954 tend to be a bit of a feedback 378 00:15:00,954 --> 00:15:02,456 loop. More space and capacity 379 00:15:02,456 --> 00:15:03,624 induces more demand, more 380 00:15:03,624 --> 00:15:04,992 people drive, we have more 381 00:15:04,992 --> 00:15:06,270 roads to maintain, and that 382 00:15:06,270 --> 00:15:08,427 gradually gets more expensive 383 00:15:08,562 --> 00:15:10,631 over time. Um, so it just seems 384 00:15:10,631 --> 00:15:11,866 misguided to prohibit some of 385 00:15:11,866 --> 00:15:13,134 these funds from being used for 386 00:15:13,134 --> 00:15:14,701 metro service, which I would 387 00:15:14,701 --> 00:15:15,869 also add does reduce where on 388 00:15:15,869 --> 00:15:17,838 roads by reducing vehicle 389 00:15:17,838 --> 00:15:20,107 traffic, where, um, bus service 390 00:15:20,107 --> 00:15:22,242 is available. Um, from an 391 00:15:22,242 --> 00:15:24,642 equity perspective, capping the 392 00:15:25,746 --> 00:15:27,881 the pass through to 15% for per 393 00:15:27,881 --> 00:15:28,515 municipality, um doesn 394 00:15:28,515 --> 00:15:30,150 t make 395 00:15:30,150 --> 00:15:31,318 sense to me either. Um, it 396 00:15:31,318 --> 00:15:32,587 tends to become regressive 397 00:15:32,587 --> 00:15:34,550 towards the residents of 398 00:15:34,550 --> 00:15:37,391 Seattle as as the biggest city 399 00:15:37,391 --> 00:15:38,759 here. Um, and a lot of the 400 00:15:38,759 --> 00:15:40,194 funds that Seattle pays in 401 00:15:40,194 --> 00:15:41,195 often benefit communities in 402 00:15:41,195 --> 00:15:43,630 the surrounding areas, such as 403 00:15:43,630 --> 00:15:44,465 White Center, um, through um, 404 00:15:44,465 --> 00:15:46,670 bus service to those 405 00:15:46,670 --> 00:15:47,101 communities and, um, 406 00:15:47,101 --> 00:15:49,101 accessibility and maintenance 407 00:15:49,303 --> 00:15:51,539 improvements. Um, please keep 408 00:15:51,539 --> 00:15:53,273 these concerns, uh, with you as 409 00:15:53,273 --> 00:15:54,875 you develop this plan. Thank 410 00:15:54,875 --> 00:15:57,545 you for your time. I appreciate. 411 00:15:57,545 --> 00:16:01,745 The next name on the list is 412 00:16:03,918 --> 00:16:05,152 Harper. Nelly. 413 00:16:05,152 --> 00:16:06,187 All righty. 414 00:16:06,187 --> 00:16:07,187 Uh, hello. 415 00:16:07,187 --> 00:16:07,367 My name is Harper. Nelly. I 416 00:16:07,367 --> 00:16:08,389 m 417 00:16:08,389 --> 00:16:08,789 with the Seattle Transit Riders 418 00:16:08,789 --> 00:16:09,723 Union, and I 419 00:16:09,723 --> 00:16:11,910 m a student, a 420 00:16:11,910 --> 00:16:13,427 renter, a car free transit 421 00:16:13,427 --> 00:16:15,162 writer, and a tax payer. I 422 00:16:15,162 --> 00:16:17,498 appreciate the work of the city 423 00:16:17,498 --> 00:16:19,199 council or county council. Uh, 424 00:16:19,199 --> 00:16:20,734 and staff have done to solve 425 00:16:20,734 --> 00:16:22,269 the road budget problem. 426 00:16:22,269 --> 00:16:23,838 However, I am deeply concerned 427 00:16:23,838 --> 00:16:25,472 about many of the proposed 428 00:16:25,472 --> 00:16:25,939 allocations and what they say 429 00:16:25,939 --> 00:16:26,740 about this county 430 00:16:26,740 --> 00:16:27,908 s equity, 431 00:16:27,908 --> 00:16:29,743 climate and affordability 432 00:16:29,743 --> 00:16:31,378 goals. We need this levy 433 00:16:31,378 --> 00:16:34,148 because the King County cannot 434 00:16:34,148 --> 00:16:35,483 support its roads. So why does 435 00:16:35,483 --> 00:16:37,117 the transportation need support? 436 00:16:37,117 --> 00:16:38,552 Direct 17% of this tax to 437 00:16:38,552 --> 00:16:39,386 expanding road capacity and 438 00:16:39,386 --> 00:16:41,386 thus increasing that 439 00:16:41,622 --> 00:16:43,230 maintenance bill, while barring 440 00:16:43,230 --> 00:16:44,591 cities from actually trying to 441 00:16:44,591 --> 00:16:47,940 solve the problem by improving 442 00:16:47,940 --> 00:16:48,295 transit, especially when 443 00:16:48,295 --> 00:16:50,497 transit riders are the lowest 444 00:16:50,497 --> 00:16:51,899 income neighbors who are 445 00:16:51,899 --> 00:16:53,867 already treated as second class 446 00:16:53,867 --> 00:16:55,335 citizens. Doubling down on cars 447 00:16:55,335 --> 00:16:57,138 and leaving transit behind is a 448 00:16:57,138 --> 00:16:58,705 baffling decision, especially 449 00:16:58,705 --> 00:17:00,474 while we face spiking gas 450 00:17:00,474 --> 00:17:03,144 prices, rising cost of living, 451 00:17:03,144 --> 00:17:04,511 and a deepening climate crisis. 452 00:17:04,511 --> 00:17:06,480 There has been much said about 453 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,749 how Bryn Mawr Skyway and White 454 00:17:08,749 --> 00:17:09,549 Center are in need of funding 455 00:17:09,549 --> 00:17:11,118 for sidewalks and 456 00:17:11,118 --> 00:17:13,518 accessibility, but this tax 457 00:17:13,521 --> 00:17:15,222 only sends 4% of that funding 458 00:17:15,222 --> 00:17:16,123 to them, while sending extra 459 00:17:16,123 --> 00:17:17,992 funding to three of the 460 00:17:17,992 --> 00:17:19,460 wealthiest cities in the state. 461 00:17:19,460 --> 00:17:21,395 Seattle has one of the highest 462 00:17:21,395 --> 00:17:23,230 poverty rates in the county and 463 00:17:23,230 --> 00:17:24,698 sees most of or sees the most 464 00:17:24,698 --> 00:17:26,701 people driving into the city 465 00:17:26,701 --> 00:17:27,735 from out of its city limits, 466 00:17:27,735 --> 00:17:29,803 causing road wear and 467 00:17:29,803 --> 00:17:32,772 congestion. And yet this tax 468 00:17:32,772 --> 00:17:34,542 targets Seattle and severely 469 00:17:34,542 --> 00:17:36,310 limits its ability to handle 470 00:17:36,310 --> 00:17:38,310 that disproportionate demand. 471 00:17:38,378 --> 00:17:39,713 This tax is again necessary 472 00:17:39,713 --> 00:17:41,615 because King County cannot 473 00:17:41,615 --> 00:17:43,350 afford to maintain its existing 474 00:17:43,350 --> 00:17:45,252 roads, but bars cities from 475 00:17:45,252 --> 00:17:46,921 using the funding on reducing 476 00:17:46,921 --> 00:17:48,989 car usage while funding the 477 00:17:48,989 --> 00:17:49,857 expansion of road capacity. It 478 00:17:49,857 --> 00:17:51,392 directs money towards 479 00:17:51,392 --> 00:17:53,294 municipalities which need it 480 00:17:53,294 --> 00:17:54,695 the least, and away from those 481 00:17:54,695 --> 00:17:56,664 that need it the most. Thank 482 00:17:56,664 --> 00:17:57,898 you. 483 00:17:57,898 --> 00:18:02,980 The next name on the list is 484 00:18:06,473 --> 00:18:08,242 Nick saddle. 485 00:18:08,242 --> 00:18:09,677 Hello. Council members or 486 00:18:09,677 --> 00:18:11,279 supervisors? My name is Nick 487 00:18:11,279 --> 00:18:12,380 and my transit rider. I am with 488 00:18:12,380 --> 00:18:13,313 the Trans Writers Union. Fix 489 00:18:13,313 --> 00:18:14,615 delayed in central Seattle 490 00:18:14,615 --> 00:18:15,683 streets for all. First, I 491 00:18:15,683 --> 00:18:16,583 wanted to commend everyone for 492 00:18:16,583 --> 00:18:17,417 all the work that they put on 493 00:18:17,417 --> 00:18:17,588 this. You know, there 494 00:18:17,588 --> 00:18:18,785 s 495 00:18:18,785 --> 00:18:20,721 certainly access problems in 496 00:18:20,721 --> 00:18:22,189 rural areas and maintaining the 497 00:18:22,189 --> 00:18:23,457 road condition and maintaining 498 00:18:23,457 --> 00:18:25,225 access and white Center Skyway 499 00:18:25,225 --> 00:18:26,627 and improving our accessibility 500 00:18:26,627 --> 00:18:28,362 needs are certainly problems 501 00:18:28,362 --> 00:18:29,163 that we need to be fixing. But 502 00:18:29,163 --> 00:18:31,432 there are a number of concerns 503 00:18:31,432 --> 00:18:32,990 I have with the proposal. The 504 00:18:32,990 --> 00:18:32,666 first one is that we 505 00:18:32,666 --> 00:18:34,201 re using a 506 00:18:34,201 --> 00:18:36,470 regressive tax for regressive 507 00:18:36,470 --> 00:18:37,671 priorities, and the county 508 00:18:37,671 --> 00:18:39,473 transportation needs assessment, 509 00:18:39,473 --> 00:18:40,974 prepared by the Roads Division. 510 00:18:40,974 --> 00:18:41,742 Most of the money, according to 511 00:18:41,742 --> 00:18:43,176 that assessment, will be 512 00:18:43,176 --> 00:18:44,211 shifted away from poorer areas 513 00:18:44,211 --> 00:18:46,213 and into richer areas. 514 00:18:46,213 --> 00:18:47,381 Specifically, only 4% of needs 515 00:18:47,381 --> 00:18:48,748 are in white, center or Skyway. 516 00:18:48,748 --> 00:18:51,748 Only 4% of needs are on 517 00:18:51,852 --> 00:18:53,253 accessibility, almost 20% is 518 00:18:53,253 --> 00:18:54,788 devoted to a category called 519 00:18:54,788 --> 00:18:57,240 capacity expansion, which is 520 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:58,225 just widening roads, and even 521 00:18:58,225 --> 00:19:00,360 more money is dedicated to 522 00:19:00,360 --> 00:19:01,828 traffic improvements and things 523 00:19:01,828 --> 00:19:03,630 that I would not call repaving 524 00:19:03,630 --> 00:19:05,399 and maintaining the existing 525 00:19:05,399 --> 00:19:06,800 network. Concretely, I urge you 526 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:07,670 to pass supervisor supervisor 527 00:19:07,670 --> 00:19:08,669 Mosquito 528 00:19:08,669 --> 00:19:11,690 s amendment to clarify 529 00:19:11,172 --> 00:19:12,473 that this board is interested 530 00:19:12,473 --> 00:19:13,707 in a metro funding amendment 531 00:19:13,707 --> 00:19:14,475 and that we 532 00:19:14,475 --> 00:19:15,776 re interested in 533 00:19:15,776 --> 00:19:17,944 identifying the needs that 534 00:19:17,944 --> 00:19:19,980 Metro has. Secondly, please 535 00:19:19,980 --> 00:19:21,415 remove the 15% cap on Seattle, 536 00:19:21,415 --> 00:19:23,840 the next largest city in King 537 00:19:23,840 --> 00:19:25,185 County. Bellevue will not hit 538 00:19:25,185 --> 00:19:25,418 that cap for over 100 years, 539 00:19:25,418 --> 00:19:27,188 and it 540 00:19:27,188 --> 00:19:27,521 s certainly a target on 541 00:19:27,521 --> 00:19:29,521 the county 542 00:19:29,623 --> 00:19:30,290 s largest city. And 543 00:19:30,290 --> 00:19:30,824 more importantly, don 544 00:19:30,824 --> 00:19:31,759 t block 545 00:19:31,759 --> 00:19:33,600 this path through money from 546 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:34,461 being used on transit. As 547 00:19:34,461 --> 00:19:35,396 previous commenters have said, 548 00:19:35,396 --> 00:19:36,430 transit is one of the most 549 00:19:36,430 --> 00:19:37,698 sustainable ways for people to 550 00:19:37,698 --> 00:19:38,598 get around. And if cities want 551 00:19:38,598 --> 00:19:39,320 to help out Metro, I don 552 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:40,668 t see 553 00:19:40,668 --> 00:19:42,669 why we should stop them. Thank 554 00:19:42,669 --> 00:19:43,837 you. 555 00:19:43,837 --> 00:19:45,272 Chair Bill. Dutchie. That was 556 00:19:45,272 --> 00:19:45,772 the last in-person sign up, but 557 00:19:45,772 --> 00:19:46,340 I currently don 558 00:19:46,340 --> 00:19:48,420 t have any 559 00:19:48,420 --> 00:19:51,642 hands raised on the zoom. Oh, 560 00:19:51,645 --> 00:19:53,747 we have one. Two. 561 00:19:53,747 --> 00:19:55,950 Yeah. So just let me briefly 562 00:19:55,950 --> 00:19:56,483 just give a notice to anybody 563 00:19:56,483 --> 00:19:57,170 online because I don 564 00:19:57,170 --> 00:19:58,418 t think I 565 00:19:58,418 --> 00:20:00,121 said this at the beginning. If 566 00:20:00,121 --> 00:20:02,390 you are online and want to give 567 00:20:02,390 --> 00:20:03,791 public comment, please use the 568 00:20:03,791 --> 00:20:06,626 raise hand function on your 569 00:20:06,626 --> 00:20:07,270 zoom app. And I forget how to 570 00:20:07,270 --> 00:20:07,561 do it. If you 571 00:20:07,561 --> 00:20:10,497 re on a phone. Do 572 00:20:10,497 --> 00:20:12,599 we have any phones? Excellent. 573 00:20:12,599 --> 00:20:14,101 All right. So if you want to be 574 00:20:14,101 --> 00:20:15,503 called upon, please raise your 575 00:20:15,503 --> 00:20:16,270 zoom. Use the raise hand 576 00:20:16,270 --> 00:20:16,537 function in zoom and we 577 00:20:16,537 --> 00:20:17,738 ll call 578 00:20:17,738 --> 00:20:18,939 on you for online public 579 00:20:18,939 --> 00:20:20,307 comment. Same rules and 580 00:20:20,307 --> 00:20:21,308 procedures apply. Please go 581 00:20:21,308 --> 00:20:22,743 ahead. 582 00:20:22,743 --> 00:20:26,943 The first name on the list is 583 00:20:28,849 --> 00:20:30,849 Greenway Trust. 584 00:20:31,385 --> 00:20:33,186 Good afternoon. I am Amy 585 00:20:33,186 --> 00:20:34,354 Brockhaus, deputy director of 586 00:20:34,354 --> 00:20:35,522 the Mountain Citizen Greenway 587 00:20:35,522 --> 00:20:36,857 Trust, the nonprofit 588 00:20:36,857 --> 00:20:37,657 organization that helps steward 589 00:20:37,657 --> 00:20:38,692 the Mountains to sound. 590 00:20:38,692 --> 00:20:40,270 Greenway National Heritage 591 00:20:40,270 --> 00:20:41,228 Area, stretching from Puget 592 00:20:41,228 --> 00:20:43,164 Sound in Seattle to central 593 00:20:43,164 --> 00:20:45,564 Washington, including much of 594 00:20:45,666 --> 00:20:47,367 rural King County. Thank you. 595 00:20:47,367 --> 00:20:49,200 Chair Baldacci, vice chair, 596 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:50,705 frame supervisor Perry, and 597 00:20:50,705 --> 00:20:52,372 Supervisor Dmowski for your 598 00:20:52,372 --> 00:20:53,574 longstanding commitment to 599 00:20:53,574 --> 00:20:55,509 securing sustainable funding 600 00:20:55,509 --> 00:20:56,877 for King County Roads, roads, 601 00:20:56,877 --> 00:20:58,412 and unincorporated King County 602 00:20:58,412 --> 00:21:00,213 are essential to residents. 603 00:21:00,213 --> 00:21:02,213 Recreation access, public 604 00:21:02,216 --> 00:21:04,250 safety, tourism and local 605 00:21:04,250 --> 00:21:06,200 economies. Nearly half of daily 606 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:07,621 trips on unincorporated roads 607 00:21:07,621 --> 00:21:09,560 are taken by city residents, 608 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:11,492 and the current funding model 609 00:21:11,492 --> 00:21:13,930 is clearly not sustainable. So 610 00:21:13,930 --> 00:21:14,228 we truly, truly appreciate your 611 00:21:14,228 --> 00:21:15,529 leadership and working toward a 612 00:21:15,529 --> 00:21:16,163 better solution. I 613 00:21:16,163 --> 00:21:17,164 m also here 614 00:21:17,164 --> 00:21:18,131 today to thank you for 615 00:21:18,131 --> 00:21:19,867 continuing to work 616 00:21:19,867 --> 00:21:21,669 collaboratively with cities and 617 00:21:21,669 --> 00:21:22,903 regional partners. The best 618 00:21:22,903 --> 00:21:24,271 long term solutions are often 619 00:21:24,271 --> 00:21:25,840 compromise solutions, and a 620 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,142 workable compromise is far 621 00:21:28,142 --> 00:21:29,443 better than no solution at all. 622 00:21:29,443 --> 00:21:31,412 So, on behalf of the Greenway 623 00:21:31,412 --> 00:21:32,980 Trust, we all recognize this is 624 00:21:32,980 --> 00:21:33,914 a long term challenge and we 625 00:21:33,914 --> 00:21:35,820 deeply appreciate your 626 00:21:35,820 --> 00:21:36,684 continued commitment to 627 00:21:36,684 --> 00:21:38,252 preserving and funding the 628 00:21:38,252 --> 00:21:39,519 transportation infrastructure 629 00:21:39,519 --> 00:21:41,540 that communities across King 630 00:21:41,540 --> 00:21:44,540 County depend on every day. 631 00:21:45,259 --> 00:21:46,360 Thank you all very, very much. 632 00:21:46,360 --> 00:21:50,560 The next name on the list is 633 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:52,266 Jonathan Gonzales. Uh. 634 00:21:52,266 --> 00:21:53,700 Two more. 635 00:21:53,700 --> 00:21:54,268 Hello, my name is Jonathan 636 00:21:54,268 --> 00:21:55,336 Gonzalez. I 637 00:21:55,336 --> 00:21:56,670 m an organizer with 638 00:21:56,670 --> 00:21:57,571 Ballard Rail and a volunteer 639 00:21:57,571 --> 00:21:58,905 with Ballard. Beyond Green 640 00:21:58,905 --> 00:21:59,206 Streets. Over the past few 641 00:21:59,206 --> 00:21:59,706 months, I 642 00:21:59,706 --> 00:22:00,941 ve become more 643 00:22:00,941 --> 00:22:02,510 involved with local transit 644 00:22:02,510 --> 00:22:03,710 advocacy, in particular with 645 00:22:03,710 --> 00:22:03,882 Sound Transit. And what I 646 00:22:03,882 --> 00:22:05,110 ve 647 00:22:05,110 --> 00:22:05,187 come to learn is that there 648 00:22:05,187 --> 00:22:06,790 s 649 00:22:06,790 --> 00:22:08,479 plenty of opportunity for 650 00:22:08,949 --> 00:22:10,483 advocacy in our county as well. 651 00:22:10,483 --> 00:22:11,752 i appreciate the dire need to 652 00:22:11,752 --> 00:22:12,953 prepare our county roads. I 653 00:22:12,953 --> 00:22:14,388 have friends that are trying to 654 00:22:14,388 --> 00:22:14,560 raise a family in Skyway, and 655 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:16,560 I 656 00:22:16,657 --> 00:22:18,425 ve seen the Broken Sidewalk 657 00:22:18,425 --> 00:22:19,626 network in person. I see this 658 00:22:19,626 --> 00:22:21,280 as a great opportunity to raise 659 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:22,950 funds so we can repair roads 660 00:22:22,950 --> 00:22:23,864 and hopefully in the future, 661 00:22:23,864 --> 00:22:25,199 expand transit onto them. To 662 00:22:25,199 --> 00:22:26,199 that end, we need to make sure 663 00:22:26,199 --> 00:22:28,402 that we are appropriately 664 00:22:28,402 --> 00:22:29,403 prioritizing areas with the 665 00:22:29,403 --> 00:22:30,471 highest needs. And 666 00:22:30,471 --> 00:22:30,971 unfortunately, the current 667 00:22:30,971 --> 00:22:31,538 resolution doesn 668 00:22:31,538 --> 00:22:33,538 t specify 669 00:22:33,673 --> 00:22:35,509 that. Um, of the amendments 670 00:22:35,509 --> 00:22:36,110 proposed, I urge to start with 671 00:22:36,110 --> 00:22:37,110 Councilmember Belushi 672 00:22:37,110 --> 00:22:39,110 s 673 00:22:39,914 --> 00:22:41,115 amendments. Um, that way, um, 674 00:22:41,115 --> 00:22:41,581 other like if we 675 00:22:41,581 --> 00:22:43,160 re going to be 676 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:44,385 giving pasture to cities, we 677 00:22:44,385 --> 00:22:44,819 should um, it should be done in 678 00:22:44,819 --> 00:22:45,652 a way that doesn 679 00:22:45,652 --> 00:22:46,987 t sing out any 680 00:22:46,987 --> 00:22:49,122 specific city. Um, for 681 00:22:49,122 --> 00:22:50,357 instance, in Seattle, um, 4 682 00:22:50,357 --> 00:22:52,492 million, uh, over the course of 683 00:22:52,492 --> 00:22:54,270 a few years would be enough to 684 00:22:54,270 --> 00:22:55,629 help pay for the Graham Street 685 00:22:55,629 --> 00:22:55,805 infill station. Uh, and that 686 00:22:55,805 --> 00:22:56,963 s 687 00:22:56,963 --> 00:22:58,599 something that the city and the 688 00:22:58,599 --> 00:22:59,599 county, um, from my 689 00:22:59,599 --> 00:23:01,599 understanding, are committing 690 00:23:02,302 --> 00:23:03,303 to completing. Uh, um, for that 691 00:23:03,303 --> 00:23:03,537 reason, the pass for money 692 00:23:03,537 --> 00:23:04,710 shouldn 693 00:23:04,710 --> 00:23:05,906 t be limited 694 00:23:05,906 --> 00:23:07,107 specifically to roadwork. I 695 00:23:07,107 --> 00:23:07,841 appreciate all the care and 696 00:23:07,841 --> 00:23:09,760 thought this committee is 697 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:09,576 putting into this resolution, 698 00:23:09,576 --> 00:23:10,343 and hope you 699 00:23:10,343 --> 00:23:11,478 ll consider our 700 00:23:11,478 --> 00:23:12,513 perspectives at Seattle Lights 701 00:23:12,513 --> 00:23:13,130 in your decisions. I 702 00:23:13,130 --> 00:23:14,214 m happy to 703 00:23:14,214 --> 00:23:15,349 pay additional taxes to help 704 00:23:15,349 --> 00:23:15,582 the county. I just want to make 705 00:23:15,582 --> 00:23:16,483 sure it 706 00:23:16,483 --> 00:23:19,483 s serving the areas of 707 00:23:20,860 --> 00:23:21,187 highest need. Thank you. 708 00:23:21,187 --> 00:23:25,387 The next name on the list is 709 00:23:36,300 --> 00:23:36,336 Joe Kunstler. 710 00:23:36,336 --> 00:23:36,871 Joe, if you 711 00:23:36,871 --> 00:23:37,410 re speaking, we 712 00:23:37,410 --> 00:23:39,410 can 713 00:23:43,643 --> 00:23:43,944 t hear you. Why don 714 00:23:43,944 --> 00:23:45,579 t we 715 00:23:45,579 --> 00:23:49,183 move on and come back to MR. 716 00:23:49,183 --> 00:23:50,284 Counselor? Go ahead. 717 00:23:50,284 --> 00:23:54,484 The next name on the list is 718 00:23:58,250 --> 00:23:58,626 Robert Feldstein. 719 00:23:58,626 --> 00:23:59,159 Robert, if you 720 00:23:59,159 --> 00:24:00,594 re able, please 721 00:24:00,594 --> 00:24:02,620 unmute yourself. 722 00:24:02,620 --> 00:24:03,430 Can you hear me? 723 00:24:03,430 --> 00:24:05,299 Okay, Joe, we can hear you. 724 00:24:05,299 --> 00:24:05,765 Please hold a second. Uh, 725 00:24:05,765 --> 00:24:06,300 Robert, we 726 00:24:06,300 --> 00:24:08,101 re going to come 727 00:24:08,101 --> 00:24:10,203 back to you. Uh, the prior 728 00:24:10,203 --> 00:24:11,710 speaker is now unmuted. Uh, 729 00:24:11,710 --> 00:24:12,673 MISTER Kunstler, please. 730 00:24:12,673 --> 00:24:14,275 Thank you. Executive team. 731 00:24:14,275 --> 00:24:15,175 Can you. MR. Felson, can we ask 732 00:24:15,175 --> 00:24:16,676 you to wait for just one 733 00:24:16,676 --> 00:24:17,711 second? Sorry for the for the 734 00:24:17,711 --> 00:24:17,945 technical difficulties. I 735 00:24:17,945 --> 00:24:19,180 m 736 00:24:19,180 --> 00:24:21,281 going to ask MR. Kunstler. 737 00:24:21,281 --> 00:24:23,281 Please go ahead. 738 00:24:23,383 --> 00:24:25,783 Thank you. Joe. Counselor. 739 00:24:25,952 --> 00:24:27,755 Here. Um, a lot to say in a few 740 00:24:27,755 --> 00:24:28,122 minutes. But first, I really 741 00:24:28,122 --> 00:24:28,922 think we don 742 00:24:28,922 --> 00:24:30,423 t need to be 743 00:24:30,423 --> 00:24:32,590 building any new highways or 744 00:24:32,590 --> 00:24:33,426 roads. We need to take care of 745 00:24:33,426 --> 00:24:34,628 the bridges we have. We also 746 00:24:34,628 --> 00:24:36,463 need to have a naming program 747 00:24:36,463 --> 00:24:37,897 for those bridges. Uh, for 748 00:24:37,897 --> 00:24:38,932 instance, we need to pay 749 00:24:38,932 --> 00:24:41,334 tribute to some of our great 750 00:24:41,334 --> 00:24:42,802 public servants. Um, we need to 751 00:24:42,802 --> 00:24:44,905 build a model, you know, like. 752 00:24:44,905 --> 00:24:47,273 And we also need very much and 753 00:24:47,273 --> 00:24:49,430 very badly to have some of this 754 00:24:49,430 --> 00:24:51,443 district assist in building 755 00:24:51,778 --> 00:24:53,814 light rail to Ballard and 756 00:24:53,814 --> 00:24:54,982 building the infill stations. 757 00:24:54,982 --> 00:24:56,584 Uh, it is important that the 758 00:24:56,584 --> 00:24:59,453 Graham Street station be built 759 00:24:59,453 --> 00:25:01,655 and that the Rainier Valley be 760 00:25:01,655 --> 00:25:03,324 a safe place for everyone and 761 00:25:03,324 --> 00:25:06,260 reliable for transit, in that 762 00:25:06,260 --> 00:25:07,628 order. Um, I am well aware that 763 00:25:07,628 --> 00:25:08,962 I have white male privilege, 764 00:25:08,962 --> 00:25:10,897 and I want to address that as a 765 00:25:10,897 --> 00:25:12,900 gentleman who wants a better, 766 00:25:12,900 --> 00:25:14,435 more perfect union. As our 767 00:25:14,435 --> 00:25:16,835 nation nears our 250th 768 00:25:17,471 --> 00:25:19,720 birthday. Um, I also want to 769 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:20,573 add as well that we should have 770 00:25:20,573 --> 00:25:22,475 light rail to Ballard, and the 771 00:25:22,475 --> 00:25:23,677 Heidi Wheels station. Uh, which 772 00:25:23,677 --> 00:25:25,812 would be a monument to one of 773 00:25:25,812 --> 00:25:28,812 the greatest citizens of King 774 00:25:29,750 --> 00:25:30,184 County. Uh, and we should, um. 775 00:25:30,184 --> 00:25:30,684 Well, that 776 00:25:30,684 --> 00:25:30,858 s a that 777 00:25:30,858 --> 00:25:32,319 s a 778 00:25:32,319 --> 00:25:34,210 comment, but, uh, you know, and 779 00:25:34,210 --> 00:25:36,190 finally, I want to thank you 780 00:25:36,190 --> 00:25:38,250 for all you do at, uh, just 781 00:25:38,250 --> 00:25:39,459 hope that we can get a deal 782 00:25:39,459 --> 00:25:40,761 passed that will protect 783 00:25:40,761 --> 00:25:42,863 transit funding and protect 784 00:25:42,863 --> 00:25:44,431 bridge funding. And, um, I will 785 00:25:44,431 --> 00:25:48,310 let the next speaker go ahead. 786 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:49,136 Thank you. 787 00:25:49,136 --> 00:25:52,136 The next name is Robert 788 00:25:52,306 --> 00:25:53,340 Feldstein. 789 00:25:53,340 --> 00:25:54,475 Uh, good afternoon, Robert 790 00:25:54,475 --> 00:25:56,243 Felton. Sound cities 791 00:25:56,243 --> 00:25:58,110 association. Thank you, 792 00:25:58,110 --> 00:25:59,346 executive team, for your hard 793 00:25:59,346 --> 00:26:01,470 and careful work on getting 794 00:26:01,470 --> 00:26:01,224 this right. I know we 795 00:26:01,224 --> 00:26:03,224 re 796 00:26:03,316 --> 00:26:04,985 starting to tire. Uh, I want to 797 00:26:04,985 --> 00:26:06,720 make a couple of points. First, 798 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,756 every city, no matter how 799 00:26:08,756 --> 00:26:11,580 small, has basic needs that do 800 00:26:11,580 --> 00:26:11,258 not scale proportionally down. 801 00:26:11,258 --> 00:26:12,626 There 802 00:26:12,626 --> 00:26:14,594 s no that. You cannot 803 00:26:14,594 --> 00:26:15,829 break it down to 1/100 or one 804 00:26:15,829 --> 00:26:16,964 tenth of the basic requirements 805 00:26:16,964 --> 00:26:18,398 of reporting to state and 806 00:26:18,398 --> 00:26:19,600 county and others, and the 807 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,535 basic needs of their things. 808 00:26:21,535 --> 00:26:22,903 Even the smallest cities need a 809 00:26:22,903 --> 00:26:24,671 fundamental lump to be able to 810 00:26:24,671 --> 00:26:25,772 do something. Second, many of 811 00:26:25,772 --> 00:26:27,541 the challenges brought up for 812 00:26:27,541 --> 00:26:29,476 our unincorporated areas unsafe 813 00:26:29,476 --> 00:26:30,577 streets, no sidewalks are 814 00:26:30,577 --> 00:26:32,479 actually true for many of our 815 00:26:32,479 --> 00:26:34,447 residents of our cities all 816 00:26:34,447 --> 00:26:34,626 across the county. Third, I 817 00:26:34,626 --> 00:26:35,549 ve 818 00:26:35,549 --> 00:26:37,384 heard some say, well, the 819 00:26:37,384 --> 00:26:37,631 cities should tax themselves. 820 00:26:37,631 --> 00:26:38,652 What 821 00:26:38,652 --> 00:26:39,720 s not caught in these 822 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,560 measures or measures of 823 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:42,589 population or tax base is 824 00:26:42,589 --> 00:26:43,157 measures of the city 825 00:26:43,157 --> 00:26:45,157 s ability 826 00:26:45,492 --> 00:26:47,661 to tax themselves. Some cities, 827 00:26:47,661 --> 00:26:49,230 one city MAY be is very able to 828 00:26:49,230 --> 00:26:50,430 tax itself prodigiously, while 829 00:26:50,430 --> 00:26:52,990 others struggle to raise even 830 00:26:52,990 --> 00:26:53,267 basic public safety measures. 831 00:26:53,267 --> 00:26:54,935 And every time the county 832 00:26:54,935 --> 00:26:56,403 raises a tax. And this will be 833 00:26:56,403 --> 00:26:58,105 the third sales tax in five 834 00:26:58,105 --> 00:26:59,340 years, it makes it harder for 835 00:26:59,340 --> 00:27:00,574 cities to raise the taxes 836 00:27:00,574 --> 00:27:02,542 themselves to fix their 837 00:27:02,542 --> 00:27:03,677 problems. The pass through to 838 00:27:03,677 --> 00:27:05,579 our cities, and particularly 839 00:27:05,579 --> 00:27:07,915 the smaller cities, recognizes 840 00:27:07,915 --> 00:27:09,216 this actual truth of equity. 841 00:27:09,216 --> 00:27:10,551 With all this in mind, we 842 00:27:10,551 --> 00:27:12,520 support the Fain amendment and 843 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:13,921 urge the executive team to hone 844 00:27:13,921 --> 00:27:15,222 this towards perfection so the 845 00:27:15,222 --> 00:27:16,723 district can pass this at the 846 00:27:16,723 --> 00:27:18,191 next vote, and we can move on 847 00:27:18,191 --> 00:27:20,591 together on other issues. 848 00:27:21,429 --> 00:27:22,463 Thanks for all you do. 849 00:27:22,463 --> 00:27:23,864 Chair Bill Dutchie, there are 850 00:27:23,864 --> 00:27:26,864 currently no hands raised on 851 00:27:28,301 --> 00:27:30,301 the zoom. 852 00:27:31,371 --> 00:27:32,720 Thank you. Uh, just checking 853 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:32,243 one last time. If there 854 00:27:32,243 --> 00:27:33,473 s 855 00:27:33,473 --> 00:27:34,775 anybody else who wanted to give 856 00:27:34,775 --> 00:27:36,143 public comment but has not been 857 00:27:36,143 --> 00:27:36,643 able to not. I can 858 00:27:36,643 --> 00:27:38,279 t see the 859 00:27:38,279 --> 00:27:39,512 zoom. I think everybody in 860 00:27:39,512 --> 00:27:40,814 chambers has either spoken or 861 00:27:40,814 --> 00:27:41,548 works for us. So we 862 00:27:41,548 --> 00:27:42,883 re going to 863 00:27:42,883 --> 00:27:45,883 move on and close public 864 00:27:47,187 --> 00:27:48,955 comment. Um, first item on the 865 00:27:48,955 --> 00:27:50,390 agenda is to talk about what, 866 00:27:50,390 --> 00:27:52,459 uh, many of the commenters 867 00:27:52,459 --> 00:27:54,794 alluded to, and that is what 868 00:27:54,794 --> 00:27:56,396 happens next. And how do we, 869 00:27:56,396 --> 00:27:58,432 uh, how do we go from where we 870 00:27:58,432 --> 00:28:00,634 are to where we need to be? I 871 00:28:00,634 --> 00:28:02,903 want to thank the folks who 872 00:28:02,903 --> 00:28:05,305 have shared how important it is 873 00:28:05,305 --> 00:28:07,907 for us to put out a clear 874 00:28:07,907 --> 00:28:09,442 packet of materials, including 875 00:28:09,442 --> 00:28:10,543 the resolution, which has been 876 00:28:10,543 --> 00:28:12,313 well established and is on the 877 00:28:12,313 --> 00:28:13,947 table, and then amendments 878 00:28:13,947 --> 00:28:14,882 proposed to that resolution far 879 00:28:14,882 --> 00:28:15,983 enough in advance of the 880 00:28:15,983 --> 00:28:17,951 meeting that people can see 881 00:28:17,951 --> 00:28:20,554 them, can react to them, can 882 00:28:20,554 --> 00:28:22,856 give comment and we can take 883 00:28:22,856 --> 00:28:23,560 action on that comment. And so 884 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:24,157 that 885 00:28:24,157 --> 00:28:25,292 s part of the goal of 886 00:28:25,292 --> 00:28:25,926 having this meeting here today 887 00:28:25,926 --> 00:28:26,980 is to make sure that we 888 00:28:26,980 --> 00:28:27,594 re 889 00:28:27,594 --> 00:28:29,796 charting a clear path forward 890 00:28:29,796 --> 00:28:33,396 with steps and dates that will 891 00:28:35,836 --> 00:28:38,238 enable a, uh, a regular order 892 00:28:38,238 --> 00:28:39,540 meeting with plenty of advance 893 00:28:39,540 --> 00:28:42,175 time for people to be ready and 894 00:28:42,175 --> 00:28:43,944 for us to be, um, uh, well 895 00:28:43,944 --> 00:28:45,879 organized and not have it feel 896 00:28:45,879 --> 00:28:46,500 like a rush. And I know that 897 00:28:46,500 --> 00:28:47,481 it 898 00:28:47,481 --> 00:28:49,149 s you can probably laugh and 899 00:28:49,149 --> 00:28:50,717 say, what kind of a rush is 900 00:28:50,717 --> 00:28:51,751 this? Uh, this is our third 901 00:28:51,751 --> 00:28:54,588 meeting or fourth meeting on 902 00:28:54,588 --> 00:28:56,423 this topic, but, um, I do feel 903 00:28:56,423 --> 00:28:57,891 that a little bit more 904 00:28:57,891 --> 00:28:58,692 diligence would make it feel 905 00:28:58,692 --> 00:28:59,359 more. You know, we 906 00:28:59,359 --> 00:29:00,427 re going to 907 00:29:00,427 --> 00:29:01,461 decide on these policy issues 908 00:29:01,461 --> 00:29:01,729 that people are giving to us 909 00:29:01,729 --> 00:29:02,262 today. We 910 00:29:02,262 --> 00:29:03,960 re going to make 911 00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:04,640 decisions about them. But 912 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:04,731 people should, as I said 913 00:29:04,731 --> 00:29:04,902 earlier, know what they 914 00:29:04,902 --> 00:29:06,902 re 915 00:29:09,235 --> 00:29:11,104 deciding. So, um, item five on 916 00:29:11,104 --> 00:29:11,705 the agenda today is labeled as 917 00:29:11,705 --> 00:29:12,272 a briefing, but it 918 00:29:12,272 --> 00:29:14,272 s meant to 919 00:29:14,541 --> 00:29:15,975 talk about, uh, the two 920 00:29:15,975 --> 00:29:17,444 resolutions that are coming 921 00:29:17,444 --> 00:29:19,947 before us and just chart a 922 00:29:19,947 --> 00:29:21,148 path. And I want to ask your 923 00:29:21,148 --> 00:29:21,320 forbearance, colleagues, I 924 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,320 m 925 00:29:24,284 --> 00:29:25,418 going to talk a little bit. Um, 926 00:29:25,418 --> 00:29:27,818 the first resolution is 927 00:29:28,540 --> 00:29:30,540 proposed resolution td 2020 928 00:29:30,590 --> 00:29:32,990 601. That is the resolution 929 00:29:33,660 --> 00:29:37,364 that would impose a 10th of a 930 00:29:37,364 --> 00:29:39,199 cent sales tax for roads. Um, 931 00:29:39,199 --> 00:29:41,668 so we have had that in front of 932 00:29:41,668 --> 00:29:45,268 us at our last couple meetings. 933 00:29:45,639 --> 00:29:47,730 And at our last meeting, we had 934 00:29:47,730 --> 00:29:48,750 a series of amendments 935 00:29:48,750 --> 00:29:49,843 proposed. They have been 936 00:29:49,843 --> 00:29:52,879 referenced today, but just as a 937 00:29:52,879 --> 00:29:54,715 reminder, uh, amendment to a 938 00:29:54,715 --> 00:29:57,183 was sponsored by a board 939 00:29:57,183 --> 00:29:58,952 member, Fein. Uh, some of the 940 00:29:58,952 --> 00:30:00,654 key provisions of that were 941 00:30:00,654 --> 00:30:03,457 that it provided a pass through 942 00:30:03,457 --> 00:30:05,857 of 12.5% by population for 943 00:30:06,693 --> 00:30:07,227 local jurisdictions, created a. 944 00:30:07,227 --> 00:30:08,161 Oh, boy, I 945 00:30:08,161 --> 00:30:09,960 ve already forgotten 946 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:09,363 the acronym. You know, you 947 00:30:09,363 --> 00:30:10,297 re a 948 00:30:10,297 --> 00:30:10,864 real organization when you have 949 00:30:10,864 --> 00:30:11,632 acronyms. You can 950 00:30:11,632 --> 00:30:13,632 t remember. 951 00:30:13,666 --> 00:30:15,335 The tip is stands for. 952 00:30:15,335 --> 00:30:15,769 City Transportation Improvement 953 00:30:15,769 --> 00:30:17,204 Program. 954 00:30:17,204 --> 00:30:19,204 City Transportation Improvement 955 00:30:19,573 --> 00:30:21,474 Program. Thank you. Nick, with 956 00:30:21,474 --> 00:30:23,474 $10,000 minimum pass through 957 00:30:23,910 --> 00:30:25,179 and a 15% maximum, that is just 958 00:30:25,179 --> 00:30:26,580 a headline. That is not 959 00:30:26,580 --> 00:30:27,781 everything that was into a. It 960 00:30:27,781 --> 00:30:29,749 was a very detailed and 961 00:30:29,749 --> 00:30:32,149 thoughtful amendment. We had 962 00:30:32,619 --> 00:30:33,920 amendment 1 to 2, a uh, offered 963 00:30:33,920 --> 00:30:35,555 by board member Barone, which 964 00:30:35,555 --> 00:30:37,791 would have removed the 15% 965 00:30:37,791 --> 00:30:40,930 maximum, uh, from amendment to 966 00:30:40,930 --> 00:30:42,396 a. I myself offered a different 967 00:30:42,396 --> 00:30:43,831 methodology for doing the 968 00:30:43,831 --> 00:30:45,699 implementing the tax. That was 969 00:30:45,699 --> 00:30:47,935 an amendment to b, which had a 970 00:30:47,935 --> 00:30:49,837 12.5% pass through by 971 00:30:49,837 --> 00:30:52,237 population without minimums or 972 00:30:53,140 --> 00:30:55,540 maximums, and notably, uh, 973 00:30:57,510 --> 00:30:58,945 asked for an offset to funding 974 00:30:58,945 --> 00:31:00,130 already being received by a 975 00:31:00,130 --> 00:31:02,716 city in my district, the city 976 00:31:02,716 --> 00:31:04,284 of Bellevue, for a transit tax 977 00:31:04,284 --> 00:31:06,190 increment financing proposal. 978 00:31:06,190 --> 00:31:08,421 Separate from this, but which, 979 00:31:08,421 --> 00:31:10,624 uh, as a policy matter, I feel 980 00:31:10,624 --> 00:31:12,492 would be duplicated by both 981 00:31:12,492 --> 00:31:14,895 allowing the tif and a full 982 00:31:14,895 --> 00:31:16,430 sales tax pass through. Uh, 983 00:31:16,430 --> 00:31:17,664 Councilmember Mosqueda offered 984 00:31:17,664 --> 00:31:19,980 amendment three. Board member 985 00:31:19,980 --> 00:31:21,980 Mosqueda offered amendment 986 00:31:21,835 --> 00:31:24,638 three, which added a statement 987 00:31:24,638 --> 00:31:26,840 in the warehouse Clauses that 988 00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:28,174 made it clearer what we have 989 00:31:28,174 --> 00:31:29,743 already stated, which is that 990 00:31:29,743 --> 00:31:32,146 we recognize the funding needs 991 00:31:32,146 --> 00:31:33,580 for transit and metro and 992 00:31:33,580 --> 00:31:36,580 restated the intent of this 993 00:31:37,718 --> 00:31:39,180 body to pursue transit funding 994 00:31:39,180 --> 00:31:41,621 via a ballot measure in the 995 00:31:41,621 --> 00:31:43,230 future, and then there were 996 00:31:43,230 --> 00:31:45,423 technical changes in amendment 997 00:31:46,893 --> 00:31:48,161 four. So after that meeting, uh, 998 00:31:48,161 --> 00:31:49,229 I, I 999 00:31:49,229 --> 00:31:51,310 m a board member. Fain and 1000 00:31:51,310 --> 00:31:52,232 I had a conversation about her 1001 00:31:52,232 --> 00:31:54,201 amendment because it seemed to 1002 00:31:54,201 --> 00:31:56,236 me that most of the stuff we 1003 00:31:56,236 --> 00:31:59,836 needed to do to advance this 1004 00:31:59,973 --> 00:32:02,508 was already into a, um, and so 1005 00:32:02,508 --> 00:32:04,711 I have asked board Member Fein 1006 00:32:04,711 --> 00:32:06,679 to convert amendment to a into 1007 00:32:06,679 --> 00:32:08,782 a striking amendment. I will 1008 00:32:08,782 --> 00:32:12,186 just, uh, with regard to our 1009 00:32:12,186 --> 00:32:13,386 lawyers, um, I will, uh, state 1010 00:32:13,386 --> 00:32:14,388 my I think it should have been 1011 00:32:14,388 --> 00:32:14,988 a strong amendment in the first 1012 00:32:14,988 --> 00:32:16,856 place. I 1013 00:32:16,856 --> 00:32:18,425 m sure you did, too. 1014 00:32:18,425 --> 00:32:19,392 But just procedurally, it just 1015 00:32:19,392 --> 00:32:20,226 makes more sense. I would 1016 00:32:20,226 --> 00:32:20,694 prefer to have a strike 1017 00:32:20,694 --> 00:32:21,195 imminent. So we 1018 00:32:21,195 --> 00:32:23,595 re going to ask 1019 00:32:24,831 --> 00:32:27,434 that to become s one. And it 1020 00:32:27,434 --> 00:32:30,203 will, uh, it will address a 1021 00:32:30,203 --> 00:32:33,203 number of these policy issues. 1022 00:32:34,141 --> 00:32:35,742 Uh, the 0.1 ten sales tax, the 1023 00:32:35,742 --> 00:32:38,142 pass through at 12.5% by 1024 00:32:38,378 --> 00:32:40,280 population. Uh, it will 1025 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:42,150 continue to include, I presume, 1026 00:32:42,150 --> 00:32:43,183 a minimum and a maximum pass 1027 00:32:43,183 --> 00:32:43,984 through, which is the cap that 1028 00:32:43,984 --> 00:32:45,652 some of the folks have talked 1029 00:32:45,652 --> 00:32:46,920 to us about today. The city 1030 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:48,920 Transportation Improvement 1031 00:32:51,591 --> 00:32:53,159 Program. Uh, the I have 1032 00:32:53,159 --> 00:32:55,262 requested that the striker 1033 00:32:55,262 --> 00:32:58,262 include the offset for the 1034 00:32:59,333 --> 00:33:00,266 Bellevue tif, um, which just of 1035 00:33:00,266 --> 00:33:00,467 interest, if anybody cares. 1036 00:33:00,467 --> 00:33:01,501 There 1037 00:33:01,501 --> 00:33:03,703 s a lot of information on 1038 00:33:03,703 --> 00:33:06,440 that in our pockets. Uh, the 1039 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,875 bottom line is a lot of work 1040 00:33:08,875 --> 00:33:11,178 went into assessing how we 1041 00:33:11,178 --> 00:33:13,113 could do this offset correctly 1042 00:33:13,113 --> 00:33:14,715 and what the financial impact 1043 00:33:14,715 --> 00:33:16,917 was. And at the end of the day, 1044 00:33:16,917 --> 00:33:19,553 it amounts to about five point 1045 00:33:19,553 --> 00:33:20,687 something million dollars of 1046 00:33:20,687 --> 00:33:21,755 offset. So it 1047 00:33:21,755 --> 00:33:23,560 s not a huge 1048 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:24,391 amount in the first ten years, 1049 00:33:24,391 --> 00:33:25,826 which is what this tax would be 1050 00:33:25,826 --> 00:33:27,427 for. But I thought it was the 1051 00:33:27,427 --> 00:33:30,427 better policy that Bellevue not 1052 00:33:30,798 --> 00:33:31,998 received. Both, uh, not that 1053 00:33:31,998 --> 00:33:33,600 the offset happened so that 1054 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:35,835 this sales tax money, instead 1055 00:33:35,835 --> 00:33:38,835 of going to supplement Bellevue 1056 00:33:39,373 --> 00:33:40,940 project further, would be used 1057 00:33:40,940 --> 00:33:41,841 for roads in King County Roads 1058 00:33:41,841 --> 00:33:42,776 Division. So that 1059 00:33:42,776 --> 00:33:44,776 s about about 1060 00:33:45,312 --> 00:33:45,645 5.5 billion million million. 1061 00:33:45,645 --> 00:33:46,179 Sorry, I 1062 00:33:46,179 --> 00:33:48,281 ve been at Sound 1063 00:33:48,281 --> 00:33:50,681 Transit too long. 5.5 million 1064 00:33:53,153 --> 00:33:55,188 in uh, in the roads fund. Um, 1065 00:33:55,188 --> 00:33:57,257 there are there is language 1066 00:33:57,257 --> 00:34:00,257 about allowed uses for cities 1067 00:34:02,295 --> 00:34:02,496 and, uh, and I think in. No 1068 00:34:02,496 --> 00:34:02,863 that 1069 00:34:02,863 --> 00:34:03,630 s where I 1070 00:34:03,630 --> 00:34:04,897 m going to stop. 1071 00:34:04,897 --> 00:34:06,600 So I 1072 00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,235 m going to stop there. 1073 00:34:08,235 --> 00:34:10,104 That is I assume that there 1074 00:34:10,104 --> 00:34:12,371 will still be line amendments. 1075 00:34:12,371 --> 00:34:12,706 The goal would be and I 1076 00:34:12,706 --> 00:34:14,706 m going 1077 00:34:15,141 --> 00:34:18,511 to jump to the end, that we 1078 00:34:18,511 --> 00:34:20,547 publish the striking amendment. 1079 00:34:20,547 --> 00:34:22,148 Any striking amendments to 1080 00:34:22,148 --> 00:34:23,884 resolution one and two by close 1081 00:34:23,884 --> 00:34:26,820 of business this Friday, day 1082 00:34:26,820 --> 00:34:29,820 after tomorrow, MAY 29th, with 1083 00:34:29,989 --> 00:34:32,389 line amendments offered by 1084 00:34:33,627 --> 00:34:36,270 Tuesday, JUNE 2nd. Publishing 1085 00:34:36,663 --> 00:34:38,899 an amendment packet fully uh, 1086 00:34:38,899 --> 00:34:41,680 established by Friday, JUNE 1087 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:43,603 5th, to be taken up by the 1088 00:34:43,603 --> 00:34:45,705 board on Friday, JUNE 12th, 1089 00:34:45,705 --> 00:34:47,707 which would give members of the 1090 00:34:47,707 --> 00:34:49,777 public and of this board a week 1091 00:34:49,777 --> 00:34:51,311 to to see what we are taking 1092 00:34:51,311 --> 00:34:52,178 up. And I just feel like that 1093 00:34:52,178 --> 00:34:53,380 is that is going to be a much 1094 00:34:53,380 --> 00:34:55,150 more orderly process if we do 1095 00:34:55,150 --> 00:34:55,582 it that way. So that is a lot 1096 00:34:55,582 --> 00:34:56,483 of talking. I 1097 00:34:56,483 --> 00:34:58,151 m going to pause 1098 00:34:58,151 --> 00:34:58,324 there. And just first of all, 1099 00:34:58,324 --> 00:34:59,419 I 1100 00:34:59,419 --> 00:35:00,621 d like to offer, uh, Vice 1101 00:35:00,621 --> 00:35:01,655 Chair Fain an opportunity to 1102 00:35:01,655 --> 00:35:04,791 speak for herself. I spoke a 1103 00:35:04,791 --> 00:35:06,259 lot for her. And so. No. Okay. 1104 00:35:06,259 --> 00:35:08,762 She has nothing to add. Any 1105 00:35:08,762 --> 00:35:09,830 questions for me? For staff? 1106 00:35:09,830 --> 00:35:10,664 Does this make sense, 1107 00:35:10,664 --> 00:35:11,864 colleagues, the point of an 1108 00:35:11,864 --> 00:35:12,899 executive committee is to help 1109 00:35:12,899 --> 00:35:15,768 chart the path. Does it make 1110 00:35:15,768 --> 00:35:16,703 sense? Board member Perry, you 1111 00:35:16,703 --> 00:35:17,370 look like you might have a 1112 00:35:17,370 --> 00:35:17,971 question. 1113 00:35:17,971 --> 00:35:20,841 I think I might have a 1114 00:35:20,841 --> 00:35:23,610 question. Thank you. Uh, chair. 1115 00:35:23,610 --> 00:35:23,910 Chair Balducci at my board 1116 00:35:23,910 --> 00:35:24,744 member. I 1117 00:35:24,744 --> 00:35:27,144 m a supervisor. My 1118 00:35:29,383 --> 00:35:31,318 supervisor. Okay. Um, so I need 1119 00:35:31,318 --> 00:35:32,952 to understand in the striker. 1120 00:35:32,952 --> 00:35:34,621 Are we intending? And this is 1121 00:35:34,621 --> 00:35:36,890 to you. And also, uh, maybe 1122 00:35:36,890 --> 00:35:39,890 Council Member Fein, are we 1123 00:35:40,661 --> 00:35:43,129 intending to remove the 15% cap 1124 00:35:43,129 --> 00:35:43,964 from the striker? 1125 00:35:43,964 --> 00:35:45,298 I will say we had this 1126 00:35:45,298 --> 00:35:46,990 discussion, and my 1127 00:35:46,990 --> 00:35:47,634 understanding is that the 1128 00:35:47,634 --> 00:35:50,340 striker will continue to 1129 00:35:50,236 --> 00:35:51,271 include the 15% cap, and 1130 00:35:51,271 --> 00:35:53,540 therefore, I expect there will 1131 00:35:53,540 --> 00:35:54,508 be a line amendment similar to 1132 00:35:54,508 --> 00:35:54,808 a board member Baron 1133 00:35:54,808 --> 00:35:56,442 s 1134 00:35:56,442 --> 00:35:58,778 amendment that will seek to 1135 00:35:58,778 --> 00:36:00,113 strip the 15% cap out, and we 1136 00:36:00,113 --> 00:36:01,714 will make that policy decision 1137 00:36:01,714 --> 00:36:03,116 by vote. That is my 1138 00:36:03,116 --> 00:36:04,818 speculation. I am speculating, 1139 00:36:04,818 --> 00:36:05,619 okay, okay. But it will remain 1140 00:36:05,619 --> 00:36:06,519 in the striker, is my 1141 00:36:06,519 --> 00:36:06,953 understanding. Yes. 1142 00:36:06,953 --> 00:36:08,555 And I don 1143 00:36:08,555 --> 00:36:08,955 t want to be looking 1144 00:36:08,955 --> 00:36:09,723 at me. I don 1145 00:36:09,723 --> 00:36:11,625 t want to open a 1146 00:36:11,625 --> 00:36:14,995 can of worms, but I do want to 1147 00:36:14,995 --> 00:36:16,129 ask a question. The 10,000 1148 00:36:16,129 --> 00:36:17,631 minimum. Where does that come 1149 00:36:17,631 --> 00:36:19,631 from? 1150 00:36:21,301 --> 00:36:22,102 I will, uh, cede the floor, if 1151 00:36:22,102 --> 00:36:22,469 you will. If you 1152 00:36:22,469 --> 00:36:24,469 ll take a 1153 00:36:27,106 --> 00:36:29,506 question. Board member Fein. 1154 00:36:30,944 --> 00:36:35,144 The goal was to ensure that we 1155 00:36:37,250 --> 00:36:40,487 could make, uh, lift all of the 1156 00:36:40,487 --> 00:36:44,591 boats in the water. And so, uh, 1157 00:36:44,591 --> 00:36:47,591 the 10,000 was an an amount 1158 00:36:48,261 --> 00:36:51,261 that, um, everyone could live 1159 00:36:52,650 --> 00:36:55,665 with that I spoke with, um, 1160 00:36:56,102 --> 00:36:58,304 local services, and, um, you 1161 00:36:58,304 --> 00:37:00,704 and others in unincorporated 1162 00:37:02,442 --> 00:37:06,420 areas, and it was a careful 1163 00:37:07,347 --> 00:37:08,415 balance to not give super small 1164 00:37:08,415 --> 00:37:08,982 towns that maybe don 1165 00:37:08,982 --> 00:37:10,450 t have the 1166 00:37:10,450 --> 00:37:13,286 same level of need as the 1167 00:37:13,286 --> 00:37:15,188 larger ones. An excess amount 1168 00:37:15,188 --> 00:37:16,220 of funding where it didn 1169 00:37:16,220 --> 00:37:17,958 t make 1170 00:37:17,958 --> 00:37:20,727 sense, but it really allowed 1171 00:37:20,727 --> 00:37:22,962 them to do some pretty basic 1172 00:37:22,962 --> 00:37:25,362 projects that they otherwise 1173 00:37:26,660 --> 00:37:28,235 would might struggle to do. So, 1174 00:37:28,235 --> 00:37:29,469 um, okay. 1175 00:37:29,469 --> 00:37:30,637 Thank you. That makes sense. A 1176 00:37:30,637 --> 00:37:33,720 follow up question is that all 1177 00:37:33,720 --> 00:37:35,943 right? Um, so I know asphalt 1178 00:37:35,943 --> 00:37:38,945 costs the same in Skykomish as 1179 00:37:38,945 --> 00:37:41,470 it does in Seattle or wherever. 1180 00:37:41,470 --> 00:37:41,381 Bellevue. Um, and that 1181 00:37:41,381 --> 00:37:41,581 s that 1182 00:37:41,581 --> 00:37:42,683 s 1183 00:37:42,683 --> 00:37:44,117 a challenge because I know that 1184 00:37:44,117 --> 00:37:46,517 we have 1500 miles of 1185 00:37:46,586 --> 00:37:46,787 unincorporated roads saying, 1186 00:37:46,787 --> 00:37:48,688 What 1187 00:37:48,688 --> 00:37:51,191 s Canada to Mexico? We 1188 00:37:51,191 --> 00:37:52,759 know that. And we know that the 1189 00:37:52,759 --> 00:37:54,759 $100 million that local 1190 00:37:54,761 --> 00:37:56,229 Services has in their budget is 1191 00:37:56,229 --> 00:37:56,897 one third of what they need. 1192 00:37:56,897 --> 00:37:57,764 And so they 1193 00:37:57,764 --> 00:37:59,764 re just meeting 1194 00:38:00,634 --> 00:38:02,201 basic needs of safety, potholes 1195 00:38:02,201 --> 00:38:04,871 going to be out of money in 1196 00:38:04,871 --> 00:38:06,720 2028 completely. And so none of 1197 00:38:06,720 --> 00:38:07,140 the cities are out of money. 1198 00:38:07,140 --> 00:38:07,507 Right. And so they 1199 00:38:07,507 --> 00:38:09,242 re going to 1200 00:38:09,242 --> 00:38:11,911 be out of money. And this is a 1201 00:38:11,911 --> 00:38:13,246 way to keep, uh, the basically 1202 00:38:13,246 --> 00:38:15,140 keep the lights on or the 1203 00:38:15,140 --> 00:38:15,247 potholes filled is what we 1204 00:38:15,247 --> 00:38:15,748 re 1205 00:38:15,748 --> 00:38:16,283 trying to do. We 1206 00:38:16,283 --> 00:38:17,784 re not trying 1207 00:38:17,784 --> 00:38:18,919 to do more than that. And then 1208 00:38:18,919 --> 00:38:19,752 the cities wanted to have a 1209 00:38:19,752 --> 00:38:19,923 certain percent. So we 1210 00:38:19,923 --> 00:38:21,923 re 1211 00:38:21,955 --> 00:38:23,356 trying to do something to 1212 00:38:23,356 --> 00:38:26,956 support that as well. With this 1213 00:38:28,161 --> 00:38:30,161 12.5, 12.5%. Yeah. With a 15% 1214 00:38:31,231 --> 00:38:34,231 cap. Um, my understanding is 1215 00:38:35,802 --> 00:38:37,504 that we can the cities can bank 1216 00:38:37,504 --> 00:38:39,506 if they have a project in mind, 1217 00:38:39,506 --> 00:38:41,441 they can bank that 10,000 a 1218 00:38:41,441 --> 00:38:44,143 year toward that project. Is 1219 00:38:44,143 --> 00:38:45,445 that correct? 1220 00:38:45,445 --> 00:38:48,981 So let me just, uh, let me just 1221 00:38:48,981 --> 00:38:51,551 declare my intent to, uh, just 1222 00:38:51,551 --> 00:38:52,286 not impose too strict an 1223 00:38:52,286 --> 00:38:52,552 interpretation of Robert 1224 00:38:52,552 --> 00:38:53,820 s 1225 00:38:53,820 --> 00:38:54,821 Rules here. As long as it is 1226 00:38:54,821 --> 00:38:56,230 comfortable for members, we can 1227 00:38:56,230 --> 00:38:56,456 have a discussion. Yes. Okay. 1228 00:38:56,456 --> 00:38:57,524 Go ahead. 1229 00:38:57,524 --> 00:38:59,259 All right. Thank you. Chair. 1230 00:38:59,259 --> 00:38:59,447 Thank you. For making sure 1231 00:38:59,447 --> 00:39:00,930 we 1232 00:39:00,930 --> 00:39:01,494 re keeping it clean. 1233 00:39:01,494 --> 00:39:03,494 Here. 1234 00:39:05,899 --> 00:39:08,670 So the goal is not to allow 1235 00:39:08,670 --> 00:39:11,667 cities to build up reserves. If 1236 00:39:12,272 --> 00:39:12,739 there is a project that is, um, 1237 00:39:12,739 --> 00:39:13,240 and we 1238 00:39:13,240 --> 00:39:14,440 ve we 1239 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,440 ve created the 1240 00:39:17,430 --> 00:39:17,220 term timely and we will and 1241 00:39:17,220 --> 00:39:18,745 we 1242 00:39:18,745 --> 00:39:19,512 ll get to this soon. Need to 1243 00:39:19,512 --> 00:39:21,512 put together some 1244 00:39:21,648 --> 00:39:23,483 administrative procedures as a, 1245 00:39:23,483 --> 00:39:25,318 as a body, as a governing body 1246 00:39:25,318 --> 00:39:28,121 later to decide what that 1247 00:39:28,121 --> 00:39:31,121 means. The way that I 1248 00:39:31,223 --> 00:39:33,260 structured it was to allow 1249 00:39:33,260 --> 00:39:35,329 cities, if they have a timely 1250 00:39:35,329 --> 00:39:37,630 project to contribute to. This 1251 00:39:37,630 --> 00:39:39,198 is not intended to be their 1252 00:39:39,198 --> 00:39:41,340 sole source of transportation 1253 00:39:41,340 --> 00:39:43,170 funding. This is to assist 1254 00:39:43,170 --> 00:39:47,370 where they MAY not be able to 1255 00:39:47,707 --> 00:39:47,877 close that gap. Um, without. So 1256 00:39:47,877 --> 00:39:49,877 we 1257 00:39:50,243 --> 00:39:52,345 re not allowing banking of 1258 00:39:52,345 --> 00:39:53,713 dollars to to put towards 1259 00:39:53,713 --> 00:39:55,849 future projects, though many 1260 00:39:55,849 --> 00:39:58,351 cities do that. This is 1261 00:39:58,351 --> 00:39:59,586 intended to if you have a use 1262 00:39:59,586 --> 00:40:02,388 this year, it could be a 1263 00:40:02,388 --> 00:40:03,230 multi-year project. But there 1264 00:40:03,230 --> 00:40:05,230 s 1265 00:40:05,125 --> 00:40:07,461 something pending or ready to 1266 00:40:07,461 --> 00:40:08,761 go, or close to ready to go, 1267 00:40:08,761 --> 00:40:09,862 and this will help it get over 1268 00:40:09,862 --> 00:40:11,263 the finish line. They can do 1269 00:40:11,263 --> 00:40:13,330 that if they don 1270 00:40:13,330 --> 00:40:14,467 t have a 1271 00:40:14,467 --> 00:40:16,837 project that they can use it 1272 00:40:16,837 --> 00:40:17,700 on, they can either say, no, we 1273 00:40:17,700 --> 00:40:18,305 we don 1274 00:40:18,305 --> 00:40:19,672 t have a project, in 1275 00:40:19,672 --> 00:40:22,141 which case those dollars would 1276 00:40:22,141 --> 00:40:24,410 go straight to roads or as a 1277 00:40:24,410 --> 00:40:24,644 governing body. Later we, 1278 00:40:24,644 --> 00:40:25,779 whoever 1279 00:40:25,779 --> 00:40:25,952 s governing it, whether 1280 00:40:25,952 --> 00:40:27,647 it 1281 00:40:27,647 --> 00:40:29,849 s or the county, we would 1282 00:40:29,849 --> 00:40:30,684 say, um, you haven 1283 00:40:30,684 --> 00:40:32,684 t yet used 1284 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:33,987 those funds on a project. If 1285 00:40:33,987 --> 00:40:34,821 you don 1286 00:40:34,821 --> 00:40:35,422 t have something 1287 00:40:35,422 --> 00:40:36,220 pending or it 1288 00:40:36,220 --> 00:40:36,256 s not ready to 1289 00:40:36,256 --> 00:40:37,324 go, we 1290 00:40:37,324 --> 00:40:39,159 re going to take those 1291 00:40:39,159 --> 00:40:40,593 funds back and either give it 1292 00:40:40,593 --> 00:40:42,610 to a city who does have a 1293 00:40:42,610 --> 00:40:44,798 pending project that we could 1294 00:40:44,798 --> 00:40:46,232 help with, or to roads. And at 1295 00:40:46,232 --> 00:40:47,467 every turn, I tried to return 1296 00:40:47,467 --> 00:40:49,369 money to roads. And I think at 1297 00:40:49,369 --> 00:40:52,171 the end of the day, roads will 1298 00:40:52,171 --> 00:40:53,473 receive more than 87.5%. 1299 00:40:53,473 --> 00:40:54,174 Okay. Thank you very much. And 1300 00:40:54,174 --> 00:40:56,900 thank you, chair. 1301 00:40:56,900 --> 00:40:57,343 And I would like to at this 1302 00:40:57,343 --> 00:40:59,312 point, just point to the packet 1303 00:40:59,312 --> 00:41:01,581 that has been provided. There 1304 00:41:01,581 --> 00:41:04,850 is a flow chart within that 1305 00:41:04,850 --> 00:41:08,210 packet that shows, uh, the ways 1306 00:41:08,210 --> 00:41:10,290 pass through works for various 1307 00:41:10,290 --> 00:41:10,489 different proposals. And it 1308 00:41:10,489 --> 00:41:11,190 doesn 1309 00:41:11,190 --> 00:41:11,924 t it doesn 1310 00:41:11,924 --> 00:41:13,326 t show what 1311 00:41:13,326 --> 00:41:14,828 happens. Exactly. But if you 1312 00:41:14,828 --> 00:41:15,962 see, uh, looking under 1313 00:41:15,962 --> 00:41:18,640 amendment two way, which is the 1314 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,464 leftmost column down towards 1315 00:41:20,900 --> 00:41:23,202 the bottom, uh, you see the 1316 00:41:23,202 --> 00:41:24,370 red, uh, decision point that 1317 00:41:24,370 --> 00:41:26,106 says timely spending. And if 1318 00:41:26,106 --> 00:41:27,640 the answer is no, then the blue 1319 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,642 box reclaimed money goes to 1320 00:41:29,642 --> 00:41:32,178 roads or cities with project 1321 00:41:32,178 --> 00:41:34,881 capacity. And that is a 1322 00:41:34,881 --> 00:41:36,917 decision point for this board. 1323 00:41:36,917 --> 00:41:38,850 Uh, or for us to delegate. But 1324 00:41:38,850 --> 00:41:39,285 we would have to adopt some 1325 00:41:39,285 --> 00:41:40,386 kind of rule or administrative 1326 00:41:40,386 --> 00:41:41,554 procedure to make that 1327 00:41:41,554 --> 00:41:41,726 decision. When the time comes. 1328 00:41:41,726 --> 00:41:42,989 It 1329 00:41:42,989 --> 00:41:45,989 s not automatically made in 1330 00:41:46,590 --> 00:41:46,893 this resolution. Yeah. 1331 00:41:46,893 --> 00:41:47,293 Okay. One more question. 1332 00:41:47,293 --> 00:41:49,293 Please go. 1333 00:41:49,829 --> 00:41:50,930 Ahead. 1334 00:41:50,930 --> 00:41:52,310 Okay. Go ahead. Uh, board 1335 00:41:52,310 --> 00:41:54,310 member Perry, continue. 1336 00:41:54,434 --> 00:41:55,334 Thank you. Chair Balducci. And 1337 00:41:55,334 --> 00:41:55,602 for the purpose of Robert 1338 00:41:55,602 --> 00:41:56,569 s 1339 00:41:56,569 --> 00:41:56,903 Rules, we don 1340 00:41:56,903 --> 00:41:58,271 t have 1341 00:41:58,271 --> 00:41:58,838 discussions back and forth on 1342 00:41:58,838 --> 00:41:59,805 the dais. It 1343 00:41:59,805 --> 00:42:01,740 s usually directed 1344 00:42:01,740 --> 00:42:01,441 to you. Is that. Help me with 1345 00:42:01,441 --> 00:42:01,774 that? 1346 00:42:01,774 --> 00:42:02,609 Yeah. Robert 1347 00:42:02,609 --> 00:42:03,643 s rules says that 1348 00:42:03,643 --> 00:42:05,278 questions should be directed to 1349 00:42:05,278 --> 00:42:08,315 the chair or the staff. Uh, 1350 00:42:08,315 --> 00:42:09,516 but, uh, you know, an executive 1351 00:42:09,516 --> 00:42:11,500 committee like this, if we held 1352 00:42:11,500 --> 00:42:12,285 it in a different room with a 1353 00:42:12,285 --> 00:42:13,486 conference table and said this 1354 00:42:13,486 --> 00:42:14,787 dais, it would probably feel 1355 00:42:14,787 --> 00:42:16,990 better to just have discussion 1356 00:42:16,990 --> 00:42:18,157 and debate here with my gavel 1357 00:42:18,157 --> 00:42:19,826 and all the cameras and the 1358 00:42:19,826 --> 00:42:20,260 lights, I feel like I need to 1359 00:42:20,260 --> 00:42:21,126 tell Robert 1360 00:42:21,126 --> 00:42:22,995 s Rules. But I have 1361 00:42:22,995 --> 00:42:23,263 now decided to allow as long as 1362 00:42:23,263 --> 00:42:23,830 everyone 1363 00:42:23,830 --> 00:42:24,564 s comfortable having 1364 00:42:24,564 --> 00:42:25,131 discussion, we can have 1365 00:42:25,131 --> 00:42:26,199 discussion. Okay. 1366 00:42:26,199 --> 00:42:29,402 Very good. Thank you. Thank you 1367 00:42:29,402 --> 00:42:31,604 very much. Um, so establish the 1368 00:42:31,604 --> 00:42:34,474 the that the limit the caps in 1369 00:42:34,474 --> 00:42:36,142 there. Um, and that this five 1370 00:42:36,142 --> 00:42:38,744 year is based on this and, and 1371 00:42:38,744 --> 00:42:41,800 a, a determining body about 1372 00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:44,500 what that would look like. Um, 1373 00:42:44,500 --> 00:42:47,287 as to where it would be, how it 1374 00:42:47,287 --> 00:42:49,389 would be used. It is 1375 00:42:49,389 --> 00:42:51,389 transportation infrastructure 1376 00:42:52,325 --> 00:42:52,658 specific. Correct reason for 1377 00:42:52,658 --> 00:42:53,426 that is we 1378 00:42:53,426 --> 00:42:55,462 re looking at a 1379 00:42:55,462 --> 00:42:57,364 different voter approved levy 1380 00:42:57,364 --> 00:42:59,165 in the future, potentially to 1381 00:42:59,165 --> 00:43:01,200 address the the gaping hole 1382 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,269 that might come for transit. 1383 00:43:03,269 --> 00:43:04,771 And this is specifically about 1384 00:43:04,771 --> 00:43:06,373 roads, because they do not have 1385 00:43:06,373 --> 00:43:06,549 any other option and they 1386 00:43:06,549 --> 00:43:08,549 re 1387 00:43:09,142 --> 00:43:10,376 out of money. And in those 1388 00:43:10,376 --> 00:43:11,411 smaller towns, they can 1389 00:43:11,411 --> 00:43:13,411 t pay 1390 00:43:14,180 --> 00:43:14,380 for asphalt with this 10,000, 1391 00:43:14,380 --> 00:43:15,648 they 1392 00:43:15,648 --> 00:43:17,150 d have to add to whatever 1393 00:43:17,150 --> 00:43:19,786 their goal was or something 1394 00:43:19,786 --> 00:43:21,387 else. So this could be used by 1395 00:43:21,387 --> 00:43:24,387 larger and smaller towns for 1396 00:43:24,790 --> 00:43:27,190 pedestrian lanes, for bike 1397 00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:30,396 lanes, for bus structures, 1398 00:43:30,396 --> 00:43:32,566 stops, benches. What is the 1399 00:43:32,566 --> 00:43:34,566 thinking here? 1400 00:43:36,435 --> 00:43:40,350 The idea of, uh, directing this 1401 00:43:40,106 --> 00:43:41,674 funding to infrastructure? Um, 1402 00:43:41,674 --> 00:43:43,476 roads, sidewalks, Ada 1403 00:43:43,476 --> 00:43:45,476 improvements, crosswalks, all 1404 00:43:46,312 --> 00:43:49,912 of the things that support, um, 1405 00:43:50,116 --> 00:43:52,919 our roads and our, um, ability 1406 00:43:52,919 --> 00:43:55,919 to transport on metro, um, 1407 00:43:55,922 --> 00:43:58,922 throughout the county. Was that 1408 00:43:59,526 --> 00:44:01,160 we as a body early on? Um, 1409 00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:03,560 whether informally or formally, 1410 00:44:05,398 --> 00:44:07,867 we did both decided to focus on 1411 00:44:07,867 --> 00:44:10,867 providing money to our roads 1412 00:44:11,370 --> 00:44:13,437 and infrastructure because and 1413 00:44:14,141 --> 00:44:14,875 I have adopted, I think, in 1414 00:44:14,875 --> 00:44:15,875 full and we 1415 00:44:15,875 --> 00:44:17,875 ll finalize that 1416 00:44:19,111 --> 00:44:22,111 here by Friday. Um, board 1417 00:44:22,482 --> 00:44:24,500 member mosquitoes language. I 1418 00:44:24,500 --> 00:44:27,120 had it in mind, but she has 1419 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,520 really, um, signified our 1420 00:44:31,900 --> 00:44:34,900 intent to pursue legislation to 1421 00:44:35,127 --> 00:44:37,931 get more for, uh, transit 1422 00:44:37,931 --> 00:44:40,166 services. So metro services, we 1423 00:44:40,166 --> 00:44:42,469 have not brought Metro into 1424 00:44:42,469 --> 00:44:44,971 this discussion since a number 1425 00:44:44,971 --> 00:44:47,730 of months ago. I think it would 1426 00:44:47,730 --> 00:44:49,242 be unwise to throw them in now 1427 00:44:49,242 --> 00:44:49,414 without getting their input. We 1428 00:44:49,414 --> 00:44:51,440 can 1429 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,444 t commit service hours 1430 00:44:53,479 --> 00:44:54,781 without engaging with Metro, 1431 00:44:54,781 --> 00:44:56,582 and we want to do it in a 1432 00:44:56,582 --> 00:44:59,518 really meaningful way. And we 1433 00:44:59,518 --> 00:45:01,821 certainly here, um, everything 1434 00:45:01,821 --> 00:45:04,230 from our transit riders, we are 1435 00:45:04,230 --> 00:45:06,526 we want to meet that need in a 1436 00:45:06,526 --> 00:45:08,461 truly meaningful way and not 1437 00:45:08,461 --> 00:45:10,163 pull out money from roads and 1438 00:45:10,163 --> 00:45:11,530 infrastructure and do a little 1439 00:45:11,530 --> 00:45:14,300 bit here and there. We want it 1440 00:45:14,300 --> 00:45:16,469 to be a really strong measure. 1441 00:45:16,469 --> 00:45:16,702 With input from Metro. Make 1442 00:45:16,702 --> 00:45:17,670 sure we 1443 00:45:17,670 --> 00:45:19,172 re getting to the 1444 00:45:19,172 --> 00:45:19,472 service gaps, make sure we 1445 00:45:19,472 --> 00:45:21,472 re 1446 00:45:21,808 --> 00:45:24,344 really doing it in a meaningful 1447 00:45:24,344 --> 00:45:26,450 way. Um, and so that is the 1448 00:45:26,450 --> 00:45:28,280 intent to just focus on roads 1449 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,983 in our infrastructure now and 1450 00:45:30,983 --> 00:45:33,983 then. Do I really carefully 1451 00:45:34,521 --> 00:45:36,921 well planned Metro Transit 1452 00:45:37,524 --> 00:45:39,992 investment. Um, here very soon. 1453 00:45:39,992 --> 00:45:41,270 Thank you. Thank you. 1454 00:45:41,270 --> 00:45:42,328 Thank you chair. 1455 00:45:42,328 --> 00:45:43,362 Thank you. I just want to add 1456 00:45:43,362 --> 00:45:44,430 one thought to this 1457 00:45:44,430 --> 00:45:46,566 conversation. And that is just 1458 00:45:46,566 --> 00:45:47,300 for the purpose of the public. 1459 00:45:47,300 --> 00:45:48,802 Um, we 1460 00:45:48,802 --> 00:45:49,869 re charting a path here 1461 00:45:49,869 --> 00:45:50,470 forward, but we 1462 00:45:50,470 --> 00:45:51,571 re not making a 1463 00:45:51,571 --> 00:45:51,805 recommendation as a committee. 1464 00:45:51,805 --> 00:45:52,605 And we 1465 00:45:52,605 --> 00:45:53,506 re definitely not taking 1466 00:45:53,506 --> 00:45:55,207 action here today as a 1467 00:45:55,207 --> 00:45:55,842 committee. So what 1468 00:45:55,842 --> 00:45:56,910 s being 1469 00:45:56,910 --> 00:45:59,279 described in this back and 1470 00:45:59,279 --> 00:46:01,714 forth is the intent and the 1471 00:46:01,714 --> 00:46:01,981 language that is that will be 1472 00:46:01,981 --> 00:46:02,849 that you 1473 00:46:02,849 --> 00:46:04,583 ll see in the in the 1474 00:46:04,583 --> 00:46:06,552 new striking amendment, there 1475 00:46:06,552 --> 00:46:08,952 will absolutely be other 1476 00:46:09,356 --> 00:46:11,900 amendments proposed. I know 1477 00:46:11,900 --> 00:46:12,992 that Council Member Barone and 1478 00:46:12,992 --> 00:46:14,561 I will speak for myself. Uh, 1479 00:46:14,561 --> 00:46:16,961 will probably advocate for 1480 00:46:17,763 --> 00:46:20,399 removal of the cap to 15% cap. 1481 00:46:20,399 --> 00:46:21,668 And I personally am likely to 1482 00:46:21,668 --> 00:46:23,603 propose that we allow the 1483 00:46:23,603 --> 00:46:24,837 broadest possible range of 1484 00:46:24,837 --> 00:46:25,371 uses, although I 1485 00:46:25,371 --> 00:46:26,338 m convinced 1486 00:46:26,338 --> 00:46:28,738 that infrastructure is the 1487 00:46:28,741 --> 00:46:31,111 right focus for this funding as 1488 00:46:31,111 --> 00:46:31,577 opposed to service. I. I 1489 00:46:31,577 --> 00:46:32,478 personally don 1490 00:46:32,478 --> 00:46:34,714 t see the need 1491 00:46:34,714 --> 00:46:35,415 to restrict the uses to roads 1492 00:46:35,415 --> 00:46:36,549 only if you 1493 00:46:36,549 --> 00:46:38,284 re if your transit 1494 00:46:38,284 --> 00:46:40,860 projects if the eight the fix 1495 00:46:40,860 --> 00:46:41,921 to the eight in Seattle needs 1496 00:46:41,921 --> 00:46:42,910 some capital infrastructure, I 1497 00:46:42,910 --> 00:46:42,622 don 1498 00:46:42,622 --> 00:46:42,889 t see why they shouldn 1499 00:46:42,889 --> 00:46:44,791 t be 1500 00:46:44,791 --> 00:46:46,359 able to spend that. That said, 1501 00:46:46,359 --> 00:46:47,794 i just want to say, and this is 1502 00:46:47,794 --> 00:46:48,761 entirely at the public eye, I 1503 00:46:48,761 --> 00:46:51,161 know my colleagues understand 1504 00:46:51,464 --> 00:46:53,265 this. Um, especially for the 1505 00:46:53,265 --> 00:46:56,690 larger cities, this money will 1506 00:46:56,690 --> 00:46:57,837 come in as a supplement to 1507 00:46:57,837 --> 00:46:59,837 already existing transportation 1508 00:46:59,839 --> 00:47:01,407 budgets, and there is no 1509 00:47:01,407 --> 00:47:02,809 prohibition on sub 1510 00:47:02,809 --> 00:47:03,910 supplementation means you can 1511 00:47:03,910 --> 00:47:05,711 take this and supplant it for 1512 00:47:05,711 --> 00:47:07,781 that. So if Seattle had money 1513 00:47:07,781 --> 00:47:09,182 for a road project somewhere 1514 00:47:09,182 --> 00:47:10,383 and they got some of this money 1515 00:47:10,383 --> 00:47:11,384 and they want to put it into 1516 00:47:11,384 --> 00:47:12,885 something that is 1517 00:47:12,885 --> 00:47:14,354 infrastructure for transit, 1518 00:47:14,354 --> 00:47:15,421 they could just swap those two 1519 00:47:15,421 --> 00:47:17,690 things out. They will have the 1520 00:47:17,690 --> 00:47:19,559 ability to do that anyway. That 1521 00:47:19,559 --> 00:47:21,527 is, go ahead. 1522 00:47:21,527 --> 00:47:21,995 I know that board member 1523 00:47:21,995 --> 00:47:23,195 Belsky. 1524 00:47:23,195 --> 00:47:24,597 I would like to patiently. 1525 00:47:24,597 --> 00:47:27,660 But I just wanted to add to 1526 00:47:27,660 --> 00:47:29,969 what you said are correct. If 1527 00:47:29,969 --> 00:47:31,571 you intended it, these funds 1528 00:47:31,571 --> 00:47:34,571 can be used for transit 1529 00:47:34,708 --> 00:47:36,275 infrastructure. They cannot be 1530 00:47:36,275 --> 00:47:37,409 used for service. 1531 00:47:37,409 --> 00:47:37,777 As as proposed. That 1532 00:47:37,777 --> 00:47:38,944 s right. 1533 00:47:38,944 --> 00:47:40,446 So I just wanted to make sure. 1534 00:47:40,446 --> 00:47:40,913 Thank you. Yeah. No, no I had I 1535 00:47:40,913 --> 00:47:41,948 had missed. 1536 00:47:41,948 --> 00:47:42,949 Super clear on that. 1537 00:47:42,949 --> 00:47:44,183 Thank you I appreciate that. 1538 00:47:44,183 --> 00:47:44,717 Board member okay. Board member 1539 00:47:44,717 --> 00:47:45,985 Dmowski, you 1540 00:47:45,985 --> 00:47:47,486 re up. 1541 00:47:47,486 --> 00:47:48,988 Thanks so much for all the work 1542 00:47:48,988 --> 00:47:49,922 on this. Just as a preview. And 1543 00:47:49,922 --> 00:47:51,357 it sounds like maybe 1544 00:47:51,357 --> 00:47:51,724 Councilmember Belushi will. 1545 00:47:51,724 --> 00:47:53,526 Sorry, I 1546 00:47:53,526 --> 00:47:54,293 m what? Supervisor 1547 00:47:54,293 --> 00:47:54,627 Boardman Council, you 1548 00:47:54,627 --> 00:47:55,495 re always 1549 00:47:55,495 --> 00:47:55,962 a council member. It 1550 00:47:55,962 --> 00:47:57,962 s always 1551 00:47:58,665 --> 00:48:00,500 safe, right? I would just say 1552 00:48:00,500 --> 00:48:02,900 if if Councilmember Balducci 1553 00:48:03,870 --> 00:48:05,871 has prepared the amendment to 1554 00:48:05,871 --> 00:48:07,607 eliminate the restrictions into 1555 00:48:07,607 --> 00:48:08,874 a for uses, I would be 1556 00:48:08,874 --> 00:48:10,510 supportive of that. And I would 1557 00:48:10,510 --> 00:48:11,711 ask that it be prepared for one 1558 00:48:11,711 --> 00:48:12,112 of us to bring forward. I 1559 00:48:12,112 --> 00:48:13,947 m 1560 00:48:13,947 --> 00:48:15,214 happy to co-sponsor or support 1561 00:48:15,214 --> 00:48:15,388 your leadership on it. 1562 00:48:15,388 --> 00:48:15,948 We 1563 00:48:15,948 --> 00:48:17,490 ll include you in. 1564 00:48:17,490 --> 00:48:17,449 The work. Okay. I don 1565 00:48:17,449 --> 00:48:17,816 t need to 1566 00:48:17,816 --> 00:48:18,351 be. I don 1567 00:48:18,351 --> 00:48:18,551 t even need. It 1568 00:48:18,551 --> 00:48:19,719 s 1569 00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:21,870 quite simple. I think what I, 1570 00:48:21,870 --> 00:48:22,355 what I would just my interest 1571 00:48:22,355 --> 00:48:22,555 would be is just if it 1572 00:48:22,555 --> 00:48:24,290 s 1573 00:48:24,290 --> 00:48:26,425 allowable under the rcw 1574 00:48:26,425 --> 00:48:28,194 authorizing these funds, allow 1575 00:48:28,194 --> 00:48:31,794 it one for the flexibility. But 1576 00:48:32,498 --> 00:48:34,266 two, I see 39 applications 1577 00:48:34,266 --> 00:48:37,170 coming in that would require 1578 00:48:37,170 --> 00:48:39,138 review by human beings of 1579 00:48:39,138 --> 00:48:41,507 projects year after year after 1580 00:48:41,507 --> 00:48:42,541 year to see perhaps if they 1581 00:48:42,541 --> 00:48:43,309 qualify. And I don 1582 00:48:43,309 --> 00:48:45,309 t see that 1583 00:48:46,979 --> 00:48:47,813 as a big value add. Um, I 1584 00:48:47,813 --> 00:48:48,948 think, you know, we 1585 00:48:48,948 --> 00:48:50,948 ve got 1586 00:48:50,984 --> 00:48:52,618 competent leadership in our 39 1587 00:48:52,618 --> 00:48:52,819 cities for the most part, just 1588 00:48:52,819 --> 00:48:53,620 if we 1589 00:48:53,620 --> 00:48:55,488 re doing this passed 1590 00:48:55,488 --> 00:48:56,689 through, send them the money, 1591 00:48:56,689 --> 00:48:58,357 let them put it into their 1592 00:48:58,357 --> 00:48:58,591 bucket and spend it like it 1593 00:48:58,591 --> 00:48:59,559 just it 1594 00:48:59,559 --> 00:48:59,929 s an efficiency thing. 1595 00:48:59,929 --> 00:49:01,270 It 1596 00:49:01,270 --> 00:49:01,360 s not even very much money, 1597 00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:01,895 you know, it 1598 00:49:01,895 --> 00:49:02,195 s like, what 1599 00:49:02,195 --> 00:49:03,430 s 1600 00:49:03,430 --> 00:49:04,464 12.5 million bucks a year or 1601 00:49:04,464 --> 00:49:05,265 something like that countywide. 1602 00:49:05,265 --> 00:49:05,765 So I would that 1603 00:49:05,765 --> 00:49:05,935 s just where 1604 00:49:05,935 --> 00:49:06,132 I 1605 00:49:06,132 --> 00:49:07,167 m, I 1606 00:49:07,167 --> 00:49:08,501 m at. I appreciate 1607 00:49:08,501 --> 00:49:09,902 Councilmember Fein 1608 00:49:09,902 --> 00:49:11,670 s philosophy 1609 00:49:11,670 --> 00:49:13,673 there and approach, but I would 1610 00:49:13,673 --> 00:49:15,241 just I would just lean toward 1611 00:49:15,241 --> 00:49:17,241 devolving that responsibility 1612 00:49:17,676 --> 00:49:18,611 to the to the local recipients. 1613 00:49:18,611 --> 00:49:19,312 Most of them wouldn 1614 00:49:19,312 --> 00:49:20,746 t use it 1615 00:49:20,746 --> 00:49:21,748 for service, except probably 1616 00:49:21,748 --> 00:49:22,749 the city of Seattle, which 1617 00:49:22,749 --> 00:49:23,917 would have a big enough check 1618 00:49:23,917 --> 00:49:24,717 where they might want to. 1619 00:49:24,717 --> 00:49:26,886 Right? The other ones are 1620 00:49:26,886 --> 00:49:27,786 pretty small. I would let, I 1621 00:49:27,786 --> 00:49:29,222 would, I would just be 1622 00:49:29,222 --> 00:49:32,222 supportive of letting them use 1623 00:49:33,259 --> 00:49:33,428 that as much as they want. Um, 1624 00:49:33,428 --> 00:49:35,428 let 1625 00:49:35,528 --> 00:49:35,728 s see. Other item. Let 1626 00:49:35,728 --> 00:49:35,928 s 1627 00:49:35,928 --> 00:49:37,928 see. 1628 00:49:38,598 --> 00:49:38,965 Other are the resolution number 1629 00:49:38,965 --> 00:49:39,733 two. 1630 00:49:39,733 --> 00:49:41,467 Oh no, I mean it 1631 00:49:41,467 --> 00:49:42,768 s in your the 1632 00:49:42,768 --> 00:49:45,938 cap. I probably would take the 1633 00:49:45,938 --> 00:49:47,840 cap off. I could see some cap, 1634 00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:49,542 you know, but I think the 15% 1635 00:49:49,542 --> 00:49:50,910 might be a little too, too much 1636 00:49:50,910 --> 00:49:51,144 penalty to the city of Seattle. 1637 00:49:51,144 --> 00:49:51,911 I don 1638 00:49:51,911 --> 00:49:53,713 t know where you draw it, 1639 00:49:53,713 --> 00:49:56,315 but I would probably lean in 1640 00:49:56,315 --> 00:49:58,685 favor of no cap. But if there 1641 00:49:58,685 --> 00:50:00,286 was some cap that would give 1642 00:50:00,286 --> 00:50:01,788 them a little more return than 1643 00:50:01,788 --> 00:50:01,964 the than the haircut they 1644 00:50:01,964 --> 00:50:02,955 re 1645 00:50:02,955 --> 00:50:03,856 getting, I would be supportive 1646 00:50:03,856 --> 00:50:05,580 of that. 1647 00:50:05,580 --> 00:50:05,391 And this is where I 1648 00:50:05,391 --> 00:50:07,391 m just 1649 00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:09,280 going to interject a moment to, 1650 00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:10,429 again, draw attention to some 1651 00:50:10,429 --> 00:50:11,630 of the excellent work that has 1652 00:50:11,630 --> 00:50:12,798 been done by our staff and 1653 00:50:12,798 --> 00:50:15,201 provided to us. There is a 1654 00:50:15,201 --> 00:50:17,601 large spreadsheet that shows 1655 00:50:18,804 --> 00:50:20,473 the amount of funding that 1656 00:50:20,473 --> 00:50:21,874 would pass through to various 1657 00:50:21,874 --> 00:50:23,877 all the various cities under 1658 00:50:23,877 --> 00:50:26,790 the different proposals before 1659 00:50:26,790 --> 00:50:28,514 us, and the difference to the 1660 00:50:28,514 --> 00:50:30,250 city of Seattle with the cap, 1661 00:50:30,250 --> 00:50:33,250 uh, the amount they would 1662 00:50:35,554 --> 00:50:37,954 receive would be $1.9 million 1663 00:50:38,791 --> 00:50:40,727 rounded, in. Is that in a year, 1664 00:50:40,727 --> 00:50:40,926 or is that in ten years? No, 1665 00:50:40,926 --> 00:50:41,427 that 1666 00:50:41,427 --> 00:50:42,762 s that 1667 00:50:42,762 --> 00:50:45,431 s in a year. One 1668 00:50:45,431 --> 00:50:49,310 year. And then, uh, without a 1669 00:50:50,603 --> 00:50:52,771 cap, um, it is uh, over 4.5, 1670 00:50:52,771 --> 00:50:53,160 $4.6 million. So it 1671 00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:54,740 s 1672 00:50:54,740 --> 00:50:55,908 significant. And we will have a 1673 00:50:55,908 --> 00:50:56,309 policy discussion about that. 1674 00:50:56,309 --> 00:50:56,942 And not we 1675 00:50:56,942 --> 00:50:58,100 re not asked for a 1676 00:50:58,100 --> 00:50:58,187 recommendation today. I think 1677 00:50:58,187 --> 00:50:59,145 we 1678 00:50:59,145 --> 00:51:00,312 re just speaking to be 1679 00:51:00,312 --> 00:51:01,981 transparent to the public about 1680 00:51:01,981 --> 00:51:02,415 where our inclinations are 1681 00:51:02,415 --> 00:51:03,716 headed. 1682 00:51:03,716 --> 00:51:04,550 Yeah. Okay. Now I 1683 00:51:04,550 --> 00:51:05,518 m remembering 1684 00:51:05,518 --> 00:51:05,985 apologize. It 1685 00:51:05,985 --> 00:51:07,119 s we 1686 00:51:07,119 --> 00:51:08,554 re doing a 1687 00:51:08,554 --> 00:51:10,689 lot with the budget here. But 1688 00:51:10,689 --> 00:51:12,492 on the I, I would I would be 1689 00:51:12,492 --> 00:51:13,826 more favor I would be more in 1690 00:51:13,826 --> 00:51:14,590 favor of supporting a model 1691 00:51:14,590 --> 00:51:14,794 that we 1692 00:51:14,794 --> 00:51:16,596 re familiar with here 1693 00:51:16,596 --> 00:51:19,310 in our parks. Levy pass through 1694 00:51:19,310 --> 00:51:21,401 to where a jurisdiction could 1695 00:51:21,401 --> 00:51:23,200 decline to take their $10,000 1696 00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:23,178 one year and accumulate it. I 1697 00:51:23,178 --> 00:51:25,178 m 1698 00:51:26,339 --> 00:51:26,514 not sure. Um, why we wouldn 1699 00:51:26,514 --> 00:51:28,740 t 1700 00:51:28,740 --> 00:51:29,309 let them accumulate it or just 1701 00:51:29,309 --> 00:51:29,909 pass it through. You know, I 1702 00:51:29,909 --> 00:51:30,542 think if we don 1703 00:51:30,542 --> 00:51:31,477 t put a bunch 1704 00:51:31,477 --> 00:51:31,710 of restrictions on it, it 1705 00:51:31,710 --> 00:51:32,778 ll 1706 00:51:32,778 --> 00:51:33,212 just be a check issued. And 1707 00:51:33,212 --> 00:51:34,948 maybe that isn 1708 00:51:34,948 --> 00:51:36,248 t even an issue. 1709 00:51:36,248 --> 00:51:37,283 I think it MAY become an issue 1710 00:51:37,283 --> 00:51:37,517 if we put up, make them prove 1711 00:51:37,517 --> 00:51:39,184 that it 1712 00:51:39,184 --> 00:51:40,553 s a viable or viable 1713 00:51:40,553 --> 00:51:41,787 ready to go and qualifying 1714 00:51:41,787 --> 00:51:42,888 project. They MAY not want to 1715 00:51:42,888 --> 00:51:43,288 deal with that and not take it, 1716 00:51:43,288 --> 00:51:43,622 but if we don 1717 00:51:43,622 --> 00:51:44,790 t have those 1718 00:51:44,790 --> 00:51:45,858 restrictions, the money seems 1719 00:51:45,858 --> 00:51:47,327 like it could just flow based 1720 00:51:47,327 --> 00:51:48,961 on population. 1721 00:51:48,961 --> 00:51:50,129 Uh, my understanding is that 1722 00:51:50,129 --> 00:51:51,397 the amendment provides for 1723 00:51:51,397 --> 00:51:53,666 that, no board member fails. 1724 00:51:53,666 --> 00:51:55,666 Speak to it. 1725 00:51:56,235 --> 00:51:59,238 So a couple things. One is that 1726 00:51:59,238 --> 00:52:01,140 I really wanted to minimize the 1727 00:52:01,140 --> 00:52:02,374 level of administrative burden 1728 00:52:02,374 --> 00:52:03,900 on the city. So what we 1729 00:52:03,900 --> 00:52:05,900 ve done 1730 00:52:06,780 --> 00:52:09,915 is say that we will have a 1731 00:52:09,915 --> 00:52:12,315 standardized Ila, that cities 1732 00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:14,654 will agree to, and it is not 1733 00:52:14,654 --> 00:52:15,210 going to be amended. It 1734 00:52:15,210 --> 00:52:17,210 s not 1735 00:52:17,190 --> 00:52:18,824 going to be negotiated every 1736 00:52:18,824 --> 00:52:20,560 year with 39 cities. We will 1737 00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:22,261 have a standardized Ila. They 1738 00:52:22,261 --> 00:52:23,997 can take it or leave it. If 1739 00:52:23,997 --> 00:52:26,466 they decline it. The money goes 1740 00:52:26,466 --> 00:52:28,701 to roads. The reason I did not 1741 00:52:28,701 --> 00:52:30,102 allow for an accumulation of 1742 00:52:30,102 --> 00:52:33,102 the pass through funding is 1743 00:52:33,806 --> 00:52:35,875 because of what, uh, board 1744 00:52:35,875 --> 00:52:37,443 Member Perry will remind us of 1745 00:52:37,443 --> 00:52:40,313 is that roads needs funding. 1746 00:52:40,313 --> 00:52:41,948 And so the default at every 1747 00:52:41,948 --> 00:52:43,750 turn was to make sure that we 1748 00:52:43,750 --> 00:52:44,918 are getting money to roads. And 1749 00:52:44,918 --> 00:52:45,784 so if a city isn 1750 00:52:45,784 --> 00:52:47,153 t ready to use 1751 00:52:47,153 --> 00:52:49,588 money, if a city can 1752 00:52:49,588 --> 00:52:49,789 t, um, 1753 00:52:49,789 --> 00:52:51,789 doesn 1754 00:52:52,224 --> 00:52:53,992 t need it, then the money 1755 00:52:53,992 --> 00:52:55,829 can go to roads and we can 1756 00:52:55,829 --> 00:52:58,964 really get them more than the 1757 00:52:58,964 --> 00:53:00,990 87.5%. So what this does is it 1758 00:53:00,990 --> 00:53:01,567 helps close the gap on 1759 00:53:01,567 --> 00:53:02,701 transportation projects for 1760 00:53:02,701 --> 00:53:03,903 cities who can 1761 00:53:03,903 --> 00:53:05,903 t pass taxes, 1762 00:53:06,105 --> 00:53:08,407 because we at the county tend 1763 00:53:08,407 --> 00:53:10,509 to do that for them. Um, and it 1764 00:53:10,509 --> 00:53:13,509 allows them to finish some 1765 00:53:14,547 --> 00:53:16,248 projects. Uh, but also our goal 1766 00:53:16,248 --> 00:53:17,350 here as the transportation 1767 00:53:17,350 --> 00:53:18,184 District is to make sure that 1768 00:53:18,184 --> 00:53:20,860 we are funding our 1769 00:53:20,860 --> 00:53:20,331 unincorporated roads. And so I 1770 00:53:20,331 --> 00:53:21,887 didn 1771 00:53:21,887 --> 00:53:24,790 t want to allow cities to 1772 00:53:24,790 --> 00:53:26,225 bank dollars when we have 1773 00:53:26,225 --> 00:53:28,761 immediate needs right now in 1774 00:53:28,761 --> 00:53:30,620 unincorporated areas. 1775 00:53:30,620 --> 00:53:31,964 Again, I think it largely 1776 00:53:31,964 --> 00:53:34,964 resolves itself if we eliminate 1777 00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:37,468 the con construction, construct 1778 00:53:38,104 --> 00:53:39,805 constriction, conscription 1779 00:53:39,805 --> 00:53:40,720 about what you can use it for, 1780 00:53:40,720 --> 00:53:40,906 if it 1781 00:53:40,906 --> 00:53:41,674 s if it 1782 00:53:41,674 --> 00:53:42,942 s any purpose out 1783 00:53:42,942 --> 00:53:43,909 of the statute, we just send 1784 00:53:43,909 --> 00:53:44,610 them. They don 1785 00:53:44,610 --> 00:53:46,245 t have to submit 1786 00:53:46,245 --> 00:53:49,245 an application on a detailing 1787 00:53:49,716 --> 00:53:50,416 the project. Okay. Is that the 1788 00:53:50,416 --> 00:53:50,593 kind of amendment you 1789 00:53:50,593 --> 00:53:52,285 re 1790 00:53:52,285 --> 00:53:53,352 thinking of? Councilmember, 1791 00:53:53,352 --> 00:53:55,352 Balducci? 1792 00:53:55,788 --> 00:53:57,757 Uh, yes. I like the way you 1793 00:53:57,757 --> 00:54:00,592 framed it, actually, uh, if you 1794 00:54:00,592 --> 00:54:02,127 allow a description under cw, 1795 00:54:02,127 --> 00:54:03,796 it would be an allowable use of 1796 00:54:03,796 --> 00:54:05,130 these funds, in my view. And I 1797 00:54:05,130 --> 00:54:06,199 know that this is this is not 1798 00:54:06,199 --> 00:54:06,566 something that we are unanimous 1799 00:54:06,566 --> 00:54:06,899 on. And I don 1800 00:54:06,899 --> 00:54:07,780 t know if it 1801 00:54:07,780 --> 00:54:07,967 s 1802 00:54:07,967 --> 00:54:09,350 going to pass, but I think it 1803 00:54:09,350 --> 00:54:10,569 is a policy debate that we will 1804 00:54:10,569 --> 00:54:11,771 have at the full board. Yeah. 1805 00:54:11,771 --> 00:54:12,338 Board member Perry, please go 1806 00:54:12,338 --> 00:54:14,338 ahead. 1807 00:54:15,740 --> 00:54:16,709 Thank you. Chair Banducci, I 1808 00:54:16,709 --> 00:54:17,343 appreciate the the dialogue and 1809 00:54:17,343 --> 00:54:18,111 the comments. It 1810 00:54:18,111 --> 00:54:20,511 s nice to have 1811 00:54:20,747 --> 00:54:22,481 this on the with with my 1812 00:54:22,481 --> 00:54:22,748 colleagues. Um, I wouldn 1813 00:54:22,748 --> 00:54:24,748 t 1814 00:54:24,984 --> 00:54:27,384 support, uh, you know, 1815 00:54:27,787 --> 00:54:29,522 something that did not reflect 1816 00:54:29,522 --> 00:54:33,122 that the money, the taxes that 1817 00:54:33,325 --> 00:54:34,961 we are using for a road use tax 1818 00:54:34,961 --> 00:54:35,161 could be used for anything. 1819 00:54:35,161 --> 00:54:35,995 That 1820 00:54:35,995 --> 00:54:37,864 s not something that I 1821 00:54:37,864 --> 00:54:38,130 could get behind. And I think 1822 00:54:38,130 --> 00:54:40,130 the city 1823 00:54:40,233 --> 00:54:41,834 s, uh, certainly, you 1824 00:54:41,834 --> 00:54:45,104 know, we we have a lot of work 1825 00:54:45,104 --> 00:54:47,390 to do as legislators to be the, 1826 00:54:47,390 --> 00:54:49,341 the check and balance of the 1827 00:54:49,341 --> 00:54:51,109 executive programs. And we are 1828 00:54:51,109 --> 00:54:52,845 doing our level best to do 1829 00:54:52,845 --> 00:54:53,680 that. We are bringing these 1830 00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:53,857 dollars in, and we 1831 00:54:53,857 --> 00:54:55,810 re 1832 00:54:55,810 --> 00:54:57,481 accountable for the dollars. 1833 00:54:57,717 --> 00:55:00,420 And it seems that, uh, using 1834 00:55:00,420 --> 00:55:02,210 this for anything at all goes 1835 00:55:02,210 --> 00:55:03,823 against the basic idea that 1836 00:55:03,823 --> 00:55:05,391 that the intention is to 1837 00:55:05,391 --> 00:55:07,791 support our very dire 1838 00:55:08,427 --> 00:55:08,661 circumstances. And Seattle has, 1839 00:55:08,661 --> 00:55:09,796 I don 1840 00:55:09,796 --> 00:55:12,198 t know, 3/10 of a percent 1841 00:55:12,198 --> 00:55:14,567 coming in tax and is very 1842 00:55:14,567 --> 00:55:16,350 generous with itself and is 1843 00:55:16,350 --> 00:55:19,635 going to pass. They will have 1844 00:55:19,906 --> 00:55:21,607 140 million a year. Uh, coming 1845 00:55:21,607 --> 00:55:23,643 in very short order for this 1846 00:55:23,643 --> 00:55:25,745 very thing. And so there they 1847 00:55:25,745 --> 00:55:26,879 have the ability to fund it is 1848 00:55:26,879 --> 00:55:28,947 regressive. These are all 1849 00:55:28,947 --> 00:55:30,482 regressive. It is unfortunate 1850 00:55:30,482 --> 00:55:33,152 that those are the only two 1851 00:55:33,152 --> 00:55:34,521 tools of, um, allowed to us by 1852 00:55:34,521 --> 00:55:34,720 the state at this point. But 1853 00:55:34,720 --> 00:55:35,788 that 1854 00:55:35,788 --> 00:55:35,989 s what we have. And so 1855 00:55:35,989 --> 00:55:37,989 they 1856 00:55:38,357 --> 00:55:39,959 ll have 140 million the 1857 00:55:39,959 --> 00:55:42,328 other cities who need it 1858 00:55:42,328 --> 00:55:44,290 desperately around them. And 1859 00:55:44,290 --> 00:55:46,429 unincorporated the other cities 1860 00:55:46,766 --> 00:55:49,201 will not be able to fund that 1861 00:55:49,201 --> 00:55:53,401 in any way at that level. And 1862 00:55:54,140 --> 00:55:56,108 so to to have that cap in 1863 00:55:56,108 --> 00:55:57,677 service of the intention of the 1864 00:55:57,677 --> 00:55:59,946 roads that the cities that 1865 00:55:59,946 --> 00:56:02,548 choose not to put forward a 1866 00:56:02,548 --> 00:56:02,848 project, um, which I just can 1867 00:56:02,848 --> 00:56:04,170 t 1868 00:56:04,170 --> 00:56:04,450 see that the cities wouldn 1869 00:56:04,450 --> 00:56:05,751 t 1870 00:56:05,751 --> 00:56:07,286 avail themselves of the 1871 00:56:07,286 --> 00:56:09,354 funding, but if they chose not 1872 00:56:09,354 --> 00:56:11,891 to, that that funding would go 1873 00:56:11,891 --> 00:56:13,393 back to the roads is in keeping 1874 00:56:13,393 --> 00:56:16,629 with the point and the mission 1875 00:56:16,629 --> 00:56:18,998 and the intention of this, uh, 1876 00:56:18,998 --> 00:56:21,567 roads tax to begin with. I mind 1877 00:56:21,567 --> 00:56:23,436 you, I am very happy with 1878 00:56:23,436 --> 00:56:25,170 unincorporated roads receiving 1879 00:56:25,170 --> 00:56:27,240 all of the funding because it 1880 00:56:27,240 --> 00:56:29,275 is the only entity that will be 1881 00:56:29,275 --> 00:56:31,711 out of funding completely by 1882 00:56:31,711 --> 00:56:34,246 2028. None of the other cities 1883 00:56:34,246 --> 00:56:36,150 are in this situation. However, 1884 00:56:36,150 --> 00:56:36,582 I see that Sound City 1885 00:56:36,582 --> 00:56:38,582 s 1886 00:56:40,519 --> 00:56:43,222 approach of the 12.5 works and 1887 00:56:43,222 --> 00:56:45,224 allows for some funding. Again, 1888 00:56:45,224 --> 00:56:47,600 they will not be out of 1889 00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:48,600 funding, which is why so many 1890 00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:51,600 are, I think, being very 1891 00:56:51,197 --> 00:56:53,498 supportive of it. So, um, if we 1892 00:56:53,498 --> 00:56:55,468 want to keep with the intention 1893 00:56:55,468 --> 00:56:55,732 of the ordinance that we 1894 00:56:55,732 --> 00:56:57,503 re 1895 00:56:57,503 --> 00:56:59,538 trying to put forward, then the 1896 00:56:59,538 --> 00:57:01,874 funds not used need to go back 1897 00:57:01,874 --> 00:57:05,474 to the roads department to use 1898 00:57:06,112 --> 00:57:07,913 as they will. Thank you. 1899 00:57:07,913 --> 00:57:09,581 Thank you. Board member. 1900 00:57:09,581 --> 00:57:11,981 Please continue very briefly. 1901 00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:13,719 Um, just to reiterate my I 1902 00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:16,222 think the main point I would 1903 00:57:16,222 --> 00:57:17,723 have on that is 39 annual 1904 00:57:17,723 --> 00:57:17,907 applications. Saying what 1905 00:57:17,907 --> 00:57:18,558 you 1906 00:57:18,558 --> 00:57:21,600 re going to do with it 1907 00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:22,694 requires spending on overhead. 1908 00:57:22,694 --> 00:57:22,962 And I think the value I don 1909 00:57:22,962 --> 00:57:23,929 t 1910 00:57:23,929 --> 00:57:24,864 have a problem with that, a lot 1911 00:57:24,864 --> 00:57:25,640 of cases, but the dollars 1912 00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:27,640 aren 1913 00:57:27,400 --> 00:57:30,302 t worth it here. So I 1914 00:57:30,302 --> 00:57:31,604 would just if we just pass it 1915 00:57:31,604 --> 00:57:32,672 through, let them do it. The 1916 00:57:32,672 --> 00:57:32,871 second thing I would say we 1917 00:57:32,871 --> 00:57:34,871 haven 1918 00:57:35,308 --> 00:57:36,843 t talked about is I think 1919 00:57:36,843 --> 00:57:38,210 Seattle is paying 40 some 1920 00:57:38,210 --> 00:57:40,446 percent of this in terms on the 1921 00:57:40,446 --> 00:57:42,181 generation side, and there is a 1922 00:57:42,181 --> 00:57:43,716 political issue to be aware of. 1923 00:57:43,716 --> 00:57:45,751 We try as a region to kind of 1924 00:57:45,751 --> 00:57:47,520 work together and be aware of 1925 00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:47,246 those things, and you don 1926 00:57:47,246 --> 00:57:48,421 t 1927 00:57:48,421 --> 00:57:49,622 want to leave a particular 1928 00:57:49,622 --> 00:57:52,220 jurisdiction with some hurt 1929 00:57:52,191 --> 00:57:53,125 feelings that could make policy 1930 00:57:53,125 --> 00:57:54,427 work in other areas 1931 00:57:54,427 --> 00:57:56,827 challenging, you know, people 1932 00:57:56,896 --> 00:57:57,263 just watch that. So I there 1933 00:57:57,263 --> 00:57:59,263 s a 1934 00:57:59,532 --> 00:58:00,599 large transfer of resources 1935 00:58:00,599 --> 00:58:02,401 from the incorporated 1936 00:58:02,401 --> 00:58:03,703 communities to the 1937 00:58:03,703 --> 00:58:05,703 unincorporated roads. Under 1938 00:58:06,405 --> 00:58:07,373 this proposal. This is some 1939 00:58:07,373 --> 00:58:07,606 kind of solving. I won 1940 00:58:07,606 --> 00:58:08,174 t call 1941 00:58:08,174 --> 00:58:08,807 it a wound. That 1942 00:58:08,807 --> 00:58:10,342 s the wrong 1943 00:58:10,342 --> 00:58:11,877 analogy, but a little bit of a 1944 00:58:11,877 --> 00:58:14,379 little bit of softening of the 1945 00:58:14,379 --> 00:58:15,547 blow. Um, and so I think that 1946 00:58:15,547 --> 00:58:16,883 would be also why I would 1947 00:58:16,883 --> 00:58:18,150 probably drop the cap on 1948 00:58:18,150 --> 00:58:19,318 Seattle just gives a little 1949 00:58:19,318 --> 00:58:20,352 back to them. 1950 00:58:20,352 --> 00:58:20,528 Yeah. 1951 00:58:20,528 --> 00:58:21,120 We 1952 00:58:21,120 --> 00:58:22,540 re getting a bit. 1953 00:58:22,540 --> 00:58:23,355 Yeah. Somebody 1954 00:58:23,355 --> 00:58:25,355 s microphone is 1955 00:58:26,926 --> 00:58:28,394 acting up. Um, uh, I think that 1956 00:58:28,394 --> 00:58:30,329 the, the benefit of having had 1957 00:58:30,329 --> 00:58:31,630 multiple bites at this Apple on 1958 00:58:31,630 --> 00:58:32,898 the policy issues is I think 1959 00:58:32,898 --> 00:58:34,366 the policy issues are pretty 1960 00:58:34,366 --> 00:58:35,667 well developed and people have 1961 00:58:35,667 --> 00:58:37,169 their different opinions about 1962 00:58:37,169 --> 00:58:38,104 them. Uh, before I move on to 1963 00:58:38,104 --> 00:58:39,104 the next agenda item, though, I 1964 00:58:39,104 --> 00:58:40,720 want to make sure that, uh, 1965 00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:41,400 board member Fayne has said 1966 00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:41,841 everything that she wanted to 1967 00:58:41,841 --> 00:58:43,841 say. 1968 00:58:45,378 --> 00:58:45,945 I would say that, um, I don 1969 00:58:45,945 --> 00:58:47,945 t 1970 00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:50,682 want us to get too caught up in 1971 00:58:50,682 --> 00:58:53,682 the applications by the cities. 1972 00:58:54,153 --> 00:58:56,210 It really is intended to be, 1973 00:58:56,210 --> 00:58:56,622 uh, Ila, here 1974 00:58:56,622 --> 00:58:58,424 s what you can 1975 00:58:58,424 --> 00:59:00,826 use the dollars on. Go forth 1976 00:59:00,826 --> 00:59:02,327 and do it. And unless as we get 1977 00:59:02,327 --> 00:59:04,330 to the governance level, we 1978 00:59:04,330 --> 00:59:05,865 decide to micromanage their 1979 00:59:05,865 --> 00:59:07,966 projects and really check on 1980 00:59:07,966 --> 00:59:08,434 them. We will be doing that. 1981 00:59:08,434 --> 00:59:10,202 But it won 1982 00:59:10,202 --> 00:59:11,537 t be a yes. You can 1983 00:59:11,537 --> 00:59:11,720 use it for this. No, you can 1984 00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:12,505 t 1985 00:59:12,505 --> 00:59:13,739 use it for that. It 1986 00:59:13,739 --> 00:59:14,973 s really 1987 00:59:14,973 --> 00:59:15,474 broad, except you can 1988 00:59:15,474 --> 00:59:17,474 t use it 1989 00:59:18,110 --> 00:59:20,245 on transit service hours. But 1990 00:59:20,245 --> 00:59:22,648 really the the intent again is 1991 00:59:22,648 --> 00:59:23,849 to trust our partners, work 1992 00:59:23,849 --> 00:59:25,318 with them. They all have 1993 00:59:25,318 --> 00:59:27,718 transportation plans that have 1994 00:59:28,487 --> 00:59:30,289 been approved and are, um, you 1995 00:59:30,289 --> 00:59:32,691 know, uh, allowed under the 1996 00:59:32,691 --> 00:59:35,862 statute. So I try to minimize 1997 00:59:35,862 --> 00:59:38,997 any of that level of management 1998 00:59:38,997 --> 00:59:41,200 and, but just, just just to 1999 00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:44,303 keep it as simple as possible. 2000 00:59:44,303 --> 00:59:46,639 Um, and then, yeah, we can 2001 00:59:46,639 --> 00:59:49,441 debate equity all day. I would 2002 00:59:49,441 --> 00:59:52,244 just share that part of the 2003 00:59:52,244 --> 00:59:54,981 driver for me is that this is a 2004 00:59:54,981 --> 00:59:57,490 really regressive tax. Um, a 2005 00:59:57,490 --> 00:59:58,718 lot of folks in my district and 2006 00:59:58,718 --> 01:00:00,953 surrounding areas have moved 2007 01:00:00,953 --> 01:00:03,322 out of Seattle because it is so 2008 01:00:03,322 --> 01:00:05,825 expensive, and yet many have to 2009 01:00:05,825 --> 01:00:09,610 continue to come to Seattle for 2010 01:00:09,610 --> 01:00:11,263 work for hospital, um, health 2011 01:00:11,263 --> 01:00:12,398 care services, for all of the 2012 01:00:12,398 --> 01:00:14,798 needs and resources that 2013 01:00:15,340 --> 01:00:16,569 continue to remain in Seattle. 2014 01:00:16,569 --> 01:00:20,205 And yet they have to get there. 2015 01:00:20,205 --> 01:00:21,807 And so I think that I hear you 2016 01:00:21,807 --> 01:00:23,475 and I did not want to exclude 2017 01:00:23,475 --> 01:00:26,312 Seattle in any way, but I 2018 01:00:26,312 --> 01:00:28,800 certainly wanted to provide as 2019 01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:30,483 much balance with all of these 2020 01:00:30,483 --> 01:00:32,117 considerations as possible. Um, 2021 01:00:32,117 --> 01:00:34,553 and achieve the level of 2022 01:00:34,553 --> 01:00:36,288 comfort I could get with our, 2023 01:00:36,288 --> 01:00:37,523 um, colleagues who represent 2024 01:00:37,523 --> 01:00:38,991 unincorporated areas, with 2025 01:00:38,991 --> 01:00:39,258 local services, with the 2026 01:00:39,258 --> 01:00:41,258 executive 2027 01:00:42,862 --> 01:00:45,564 s office. So it was a 2028 01:00:45,564 --> 01:00:47,964 carefully thought through, um, 2029 01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:49,835 number. And I think we 2030 01:00:49,835 --> 01:00:51,835 ve now 2031 01:00:53,706 --> 01:00:54,373 discussed this fully, 2032 01:00:54,373 --> 01:00:54,558 thoroughly. 2033 01:00:54,558 --> 01:00:56,141 Let 2034 01:00:56,141 --> 01:00:58,578 s not bring horses into it. 2035 01:00:58,578 --> 01:00:59,912 But, uh, no, no, no, no. 2036 01:00:59,912 --> 01:01:01,346 I just meant I just was hoping 2037 01:01:01,346 --> 01:01:02,481 to get the amendments prepared 2038 01:01:02,481 --> 01:01:03,349 and give a preview. Not 2039 01:01:03,349 --> 01:01:03,982 surprise anybody. I 2040 01:01:03,982 --> 01:01:04,517 m sorry. I 2041 01:01:04,517 --> 01:01:05,584 got a little one. 2042 01:01:05,584 --> 01:01:06,685 That is the. That is the 2043 01:01:06,685 --> 01:01:08,860 absolute goal of this meeting. 2044 01:01:08,860 --> 01:01:10,389 And I. And I feel that we are 2045 01:01:10,389 --> 01:01:10,923 meeting our goal because we 2046 01:01:10,923 --> 01:01:11,103 ve 2047 01:01:11,103 --> 01:01:12,324 we 2048 01:01:12,324 --> 01:01:14,724 ve grounded ourselves in 2049 01:01:15,261 --> 01:01:17,129 what the striker is going to 2050 01:01:17,129 --> 01:01:18,264 include. And that enables us to 2051 01:01:18,264 --> 01:01:19,799 then go forward with line 2052 01:01:19,799 --> 01:01:20,966 amendments. And nobody should 2053 01:01:20,966 --> 01:01:22,835 be surprised when we get to the 2054 01:01:22,835 --> 01:01:23,903 next meeting, because my goal 2055 01:01:23,903 --> 01:01:25,270 is that we vote at that 2056 01:01:25,270 --> 01:01:26,238 meeting. Yeah. Thank you. Thank 2057 01:01:26,238 --> 01:01:28,541 you all seriously for this 2058 01:01:28,541 --> 01:01:28,716 discussion. I mean, that, um, 2059 01:01:28,716 --> 01:01:29,508 I 2060 01:01:29,508 --> 01:01:32,211 m ready to move on to the 2061 01:01:32,211 --> 01:01:35,811 next agenda item. And this one 2062 01:01:36,515 --> 01:01:38,551 is, uh, about the, uh, kind of 2063 01:01:38,551 --> 01:01:41,551 the alternatives for kicked in 2064 01:01:41,554 --> 01:01:42,288 next steps. Um, it has been 2065 01:01:42,288 --> 01:01:43,756 brought up a number of 2066 01:01:43,756 --> 01:01:47,356 different times and a number of 2067 01:01:47,860 --> 01:01:49,462 places that, um, the moment we 2068 01:01:49,462 --> 01:01:51,364 vote to adopt a tax, we are 2069 01:01:51,364 --> 01:01:52,931 then going to be, uh, 2070 01:01:52,931 --> 01:01:54,466 anticipating funds, but we will 2071 01:01:54,466 --> 01:01:56,101 be a funded organization in the 2072 01:01:56,101 --> 01:01:57,769 not distant future. And there 2073 01:01:57,769 --> 01:01:58,838 is work that we have to do to 2074 01:01:58,838 --> 01:02:00,673 get ready to receive those 2075 01:02:00,673 --> 01:02:02,441 funds, uh, regardless of 2076 01:02:02,441 --> 01:02:04,677 whether we choose to remain as 2077 01:02:04,677 --> 01:02:06,545 an independent agency for the 2078 01:02:06,545 --> 01:02:08,280 long term, for some shorter 2079 01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:09,181 period of time, or merge 2080 01:02:09,181 --> 01:02:09,915 immediately, there 2081 01:02:09,915 --> 01:02:12,315 s work to be 2082 01:02:13,485 --> 01:02:15,688 done. And so I have asked and 2083 01:02:15,688 --> 01:02:15,921 staff have prepared, uh, it 2084 01:02:15,921 --> 01:02:16,722 says it 2085 01:02:16,722 --> 01:02:16,989 s a memo and it 2086 01:02:16,989 --> 01:02:17,890 s on 2087 01:02:17,890 --> 01:02:18,357 page ten of the packet. 2088 01:02:18,357 --> 01:02:18,891 Unfortunately, I 2089 01:02:18,891 --> 01:02:20,891 m working off 2090 01:02:21,393 --> 01:02:22,428 of, uh, random papers is when 2091 01:02:22,428 --> 01:02:24,429 you say memo, do you mean this 2092 01:02:24,429 --> 01:02:26,650 chart? Okay, so this is 2093 01:02:26,650 --> 01:02:26,899 beautiful chart. Uh, that we 2094 01:02:26,899 --> 01:02:28,401 have it 2095 01:02:28,401 --> 01:02:28,588 s two pages long and 2096 01:02:28,588 --> 01:02:29,601 it 2097 01:02:29,601 --> 01:02:31,804 s called potential next 2098 01:02:31,804 --> 01:02:33,739 steps for independent td to 2099 01:02:33,739 --> 01:02:35,739 implement roads funding 2100 01:02:36,609 --> 01:02:37,609 measure. So. 2101 01:02:37,609 --> 01:02:37,787 Um. 2102 01:02:37,787 --> 01:02:39,787 We 2103 01:02:40,713 --> 01:02:42,915 ve had our team work very 2104 01:02:42,915 --> 01:02:44,583 diligently to try to identify 2105 01:02:44,583 --> 01:02:47,583 the immediate steps that are 2106 01:02:48,420 --> 01:02:50,188 required. Um, this does not yet 2107 01:02:50,188 --> 01:02:51,323 chart out the immediate steps 2108 01:02:51,323 --> 01:02:54,359 that would be required if we 2109 01:02:54,359 --> 01:02:55,995 were choosing to merge. So that 2110 01:02:55,995 --> 01:02:57,362 is sort of like decision one. 2111 01:02:57,362 --> 01:02:58,998 Do we stay independent for a 2112 01:02:58,998 --> 01:03:02,680 period of time? For a long 2113 01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:03,502 time? For a short time? Um, and 2114 01:03:03,502 --> 01:03:05,710 then what do we do if then and 2115 01:03:05,710 --> 01:03:07,472 I just want to preface all of 2116 01:03:07,472 --> 01:03:10,409 this by saying, uh, we have had 2117 01:03:10,409 --> 01:03:12,611 some amazing county council 2118 01:03:12,611 --> 01:03:13,779 staff who legislative branch 2119 01:03:13,779 --> 01:03:15,280 staff who have been carrying 2120 01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:17,583 this separate branch of 2121 01:03:17,583 --> 01:03:17,883 government on their backs. Uh, 2122 01:03:17,883 --> 01:03:19,510 we I 2123 01:03:19,510 --> 01:03:21,219 ve sent a formal letter 2124 01:03:21,219 --> 01:03:21,393 signed by myself, and I don 2125 01:03:21,393 --> 01:03:22,188 t 2126 01:03:22,188 --> 01:03:23,422 recall if I asked the vice 2127 01:03:23,422 --> 01:03:25,291 chair to sign, but I signed it 2128 01:03:25,291 --> 01:03:26,592 to the chair of the King County 2129 01:03:26,592 --> 01:03:29,561 Council and to the county 2130 01:03:29,561 --> 01:03:31,564 executive, asking them to track 2131 01:03:31,564 --> 01:03:32,765 the expenditures. You know, the 2132 01:03:32,765 --> 01:03:34,500 the debt, if you will, that we 2133 01:03:34,500 --> 01:03:36,350 are accumulating by using time 2134 01:03:36,350 --> 01:03:37,469 and resources of King County, 2135 01:03:37,469 --> 01:03:38,904 because we are not King County 2136 01:03:38,904 --> 01:03:40,339 when we sit here as the King 2137 01:03:40,339 --> 01:03:42,339 County Transportation District, 2138 01:03:42,741 --> 01:03:44,377 so that we can, uh, rightly pay 2139 01:03:44,377 --> 01:03:44,643 for these services. But we 2140 01:03:44,643 --> 01:03:46,643 re 2141 01:03:47,313 --> 01:03:50,282 going to need at least a 2142 01:03:50,282 --> 01:03:51,917 consultant almost immediately 2143 01:03:51,917 --> 01:03:53,319 to help us figure out our next 2144 01:03:53,319 --> 01:03:55,719 steps and implement them 2145 01:03:55,821 --> 01:03:56,555 correctly. Um, I 2146 01:03:56,555 --> 01:03:57,123 m a little off 2147 01:03:57,123 --> 01:03:57,490 script here, but I 2148 01:03:57,490 --> 01:03:58,557 m just going 2149 01:03:58,557 --> 01:04:00,590 to say, and if anybody wants to 2150 01:04:00,590 --> 01:04:02,228 interject, please wave or say 2151 01:04:02,228 --> 01:04:05,300 something. But I think that we 2152 01:04:05,300 --> 01:04:08,300 should probably plan as an 2153 01:04:09,435 --> 01:04:12,400 executive committee to, uh, to 2154 01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:15,341 ask the board to empower us to 2155 01:04:15,341 --> 01:04:17,509 do a scope of work and some 2156 01:04:17,509 --> 01:04:18,910 kind of procurement to get that 2157 01:04:18,910 --> 01:04:20,313 consultant on board. And then 2158 01:04:20,313 --> 01:04:23,913 we will have somebody whose job 2159 01:04:24,820 --> 01:04:25,451 it is immediately. And, you 2160 01:04:25,451 --> 01:04:27,219 know, for whatever amount of 2161 01:04:27,219 --> 01:04:28,754 time and money it takes to help 2162 01:04:28,754 --> 01:04:29,154 us chart this path forward, 2163 01:04:29,154 --> 01:04:30,322 because it 2164 01:04:30,322 --> 01:04:31,157 s detailed what we 2165 01:04:31,157 --> 01:04:32,291 have to do, we have to do 2166 01:04:32,291 --> 01:04:34,426 accounting. We have to have 2167 01:04:34,426 --> 01:04:36,796 legal advice. We have to, uh, 2168 01:04:36,796 --> 01:04:38,664 we if we we could choose to be 2169 01:04:38,664 --> 01:04:39,999 an existing agency that mainly 2170 01:04:39,999 --> 01:04:41,767 just passes through money and 2171 01:04:41,767 --> 01:04:43,102 does very little else. That 2172 01:04:43,102 --> 01:04:44,669 still requires resources. And 2173 01:04:44,669 --> 01:04:46,305 we We need to be accountable. 2174 01:04:46,305 --> 01:04:48,274 We need to pass audits. We need 2175 01:04:48,274 --> 01:04:50,109 to be effective. We could 2176 01:04:50,109 --> 01:04:52,277 choose to be slightly more 2177 01:04:52,277 --> 01:04:53,512 operational, like the flood 2178 01:04:53,512 --> 01:04:54,380 control district is more 2179 01:04:54,380 --> 01:04:55,810 operational, but doesn 2180 01:04:55,810 --> 01:04:55,815 t do its 2181 01:04:55,815 --> 01:04:56,281 own projects, doesn 2182 01:04:56,281 --> 01:04:58,250 t have its 2183 01:04:58,250 --> 01:05:01,220 own crews. Like we contract for 2184 01:05:01,220 --> 01:05:04,156 all of the real project work 2185 01:05:04,156 --> 01:05:06,825 and operational work with King 2186 01:05:06,825 --> 01:05:08,727 County Water and Land Division. 2187 01:05:08,727 --> 01:05:09,729 Or we could choose not my 2188 01:05:09,729 --> 01:05:12,598 preference, but we could choose 2189 01:05:12,598 --> 01:05:13,899 to become a fully, fully blown 2190 01:05:13,899 --> 01:05:14,900 transportation type 2191 01:05:14,900 --> 01:05:16,435 organization that does 2192 01:05:16,435 --> 01:05:17,837 projects. I mean, that makes 2193 01:05:17,837 --> 01:05:19,400 very little sense in light of 2194 01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:20,840 the fact that we already have a 2195 01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:23,408 roads division. But these are 2196 01:05:23,408 --> 01:05:25,277 this is the option that or we 2197 01:05:25,277 --> 01:05:27,112 could just simply merge this 2198 01:05:27,112 --> 01:05:28,314 organization into King County, 2199 01:05:28,314 --> 01:05:30,316 and then it just becomes 2200 01:05:30,316 --> 01:05:31,717 another funding source that is 2201 01:05:31,717 --> 01:05:32,851 that is proposed by the 2202 01:05:32,851 --> 01:05:33,886 executive, adopted by the 2203 01:05:33,886 --> 01:05:36,286 council, budgeted by the 2204 01:05:36,522 --> 01:05:38,230 council. But it is going to 2205 01:05:38,230 --> 01:05:39,225 take work no matter which 2206 01:05:39,225 --> 01:05:39,625 course we choose. It 2207 01:05:39,625 --> 01:05:40,920 s going to 2208 01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:40,425 take work and it 2209 01:05:40,425 --> 01:05:42,294 s going to 2210 01:05:42,294 --> 01:05:42,528 take resources. And so I don 2211 01:05:42,528 --> 01:05:44,528 t 2212 01:05:45,430 --> 01:05:47,165 know, is there something that 2213 01:05:47,165 --> 01:05:48,167 we should be trying like? I 2214 01:05:48,167 --> 01:05:50,102 think we should ask the. I 2215 01:05:50,102 --> 01:05:51,237 think at the JUNE 12th meeting, 2216 01:05:51,237 --> 01:05:52,437 we should ask the board to 2217 01:05:52,437 --> 01:05:53,538 authorize this executive 2218 01:05:53,538 --> 01:05:55,908 committee to move forward with 2219 01:05:55,908 --> 01:05:58,100 the with the procurement 2220 01:05:58,100 --> 01:05:59,879 process for a consultant. And 2221 01:05:59,879 --> 01:06:01,460 that would be my plan. But let 2222 01:06:01,460 --> 01:06:01,981 us open it up for discussion. 2223 01:06:01,981 --> 01:06:02,914 Let me first ask staff, do you 2224 01:06:02,914 --> 01:06:03,916 have anything more you want to 2225 01:06:03,916 --> 01:06:04,216 say? Go ahead. 2226 01:06:04,216 --> 01:06:05,150 So I 2227 01:06:05,150 --> 01:06:06,952 ll just jump in with a 2228 01:06:06,952 --> 01:06:07,720 couple points. Um. Thank you. 2229 01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:08,153 Chair Balducci, I 2230 01:06:08,153 --> 01:06:08,387 m Mary Berg, 2231 01:06:08,387 --> 01:06:09,421 and I 2232 01:06:09,421 --> 01:06:12,421 m from the council staff. 2233 01:06:13,726 --> 01:06:15,360 So as you noted, if you approve 2234 01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:18,130 a funding measure, your first 2235 01:06:18,130 --> 01:06:19,965 choice is do you wish to choose 2236 01:06:19,965 --> 01:06:21,299 to be assumed into King County, 2237 01:06:21,299 --> 01:06:22,668 for which there is a process 2238 01:06:22,668 --> 01:06:23,602 that would be first initiated 2239 01:06:23,602 --> 01:06:26,200 by the Council through 2240 01:06:26,405 --> 01:06:27,706 ordinance, or alternatively, if 2241 01:06:27,706 --> 01:06:29,207 this body wishes to remain 2242 01:06:29,207 --> 01:06:30,843 independent, there are a series 2243 01:06:30,843 --> 01:06:32,210 of both substantive and 2244 01:06:32,210 --> 01:06:33,746 administrative tasks to be 2245 01:06:33,746 --> 01:06:35,714 undertaken. The second 2246 01:06:35,714 --> 01:06:38,650 resolution, that is, before you 2247 01:06:38,650 --> 01:06:40,185 td 2020 602, covers the 2248 01:06:40,185 --> 01:06:41,887 substantive end, meaning that 2249 01:06:41,887 --> 01:06:43,556 it would ask the executive to 2250 01:06:43,556 --> 01:06:45,956 develop an implementation plan 2251 01:06:46,792 --> 01:06:48,270 in Ila for how the substantive 2252 01:06:48,270 --> 01:06:49,795 work would be carried out with 2253 01:06:49,795 --> 01:06:51,930 the revenues. The work focused 2254 01:06:51,930 --> 01:06:54,100 on roads, as well as any pass 2255 01:06:54,100 --> 01:06:54,900 through to cities. There would 2256 01:06:54,900 --> 01:06:57,168 also be a number of 2257 01:06:57,168 --> 01:06:59,871 administrative tasks to set up 2258 01:06:59,871 --> 01:07:02,274 this entity. To be able to 2259 01:07:02,274 --> 01:07:04,900 essentially take in and then, 2260 01:07:04,900 --> 01:07:06,345 you know, effectively disburse 2261 01:07:06,345 --> 01:07:08,446 about $100 million a year. Many 2262 01:07:08,446 --> 01:07:10,782 of those tasks are outlined in 2263 01:07:10,782 --> 01:07:12,852 the timeline that is before you 2264 01:07:12,852 --> 01:07:14,786 on page ten of your packets. 2265 01:07:14,786 --> 01:07:17,389 Um, staff have also started 2266 01:07:17,389 --> 01:07:19,789 collecting the contracts that 2267 01:07:19,959 --> 01:07:21,593 were used and executed by both 2268 01:07:21,593 --> 01:07:22,928 the ferry district, the former 2269 01:07:22,928 --> 01:07:24,997 ferry district, and the flood 2270 01:07:24,997 --> 01:07:27,299 control district when both in 2271 01:07:27,299 --> 01:07:29,401 their early days sought 2272 01:07:29,401 --> 01:07:31,370 consultant support to help them 2273 01:07:31,370 --> 01:07:32,672 start up. And so we do have 2274 01:07:32,672 --> 01:07:34,106 language available from those 2275 01:07:34,106 --> 01:07:36,642 past documents that could guide 2276 01:07:36,642 --> 01:07:38,944 an rfp. And I will finally 2277 01:07:38,944 --> 01:07:40,278 close by noting that initial 2278 01:07:40,278 --> 01:07:41,847 conversations with legal 2279 01:07:41,847 --> 01:07:43,916 counsel indicate that while 2280 01:07:43,916 --> 01:07:46,316 this executive committee could 2281 01:07:46,351 --> 01:07:48,721 operate as a committee in, say, 2282 01:07:48,721 --> 01:07:49,721 developing an rfp and, you 2283 01:07:49,721 --> 01:07:51,223 know, moving forward with a 2284 01:07:51,223 --> 01:07:53,623 number of administrative tasks, 2285 01:07:55,270 --> 01:07:57,629 any, for instance, um, formal 2286 01:07:57,629 --> 01:07:59,629 resolution to authorize 2287 01:07:59,832 --> 01:08:00,899 proceeding with a contract 2288 01:08:00,899 --> 01:08:02,768 would have to be done by the 2289 01:08:02,768 --> 01:08:04,403 full board. So there would have 2290 01:08:04,403 --> 01:08:05,471 to be some balance between what 2291 01:08:05,471 --> 01:08:06,639 this committee could do and 2292 01:08:06,639 --> 01:08:08,207 what the full board would have 2293 01:08:08,207 --> 01:08:08,841 to do. 2294 01:08:08,841 --> 01:08:10,841 I understand. 2295 01:08:11,210 --> 01:08:11,577 That. Understood. Thank you. 2296 01:08:11,577 --> 01:08:13,577 And that 2297 01:08:13,679 --> 01:08:15,681 s super helpful. And I 2298 01:08:15,681 --> 01:08:15,914 not surprising at all that you 2299 01:08:15,914 --> 01:08:17,682 couldn 2300 01:08:17,682 --> 01:08:19,318 t authorize a subset of 2301 01:08:19,318 --> 01:08:22,321 the district to go in contract 2302 01:08:22,321 --> 01:08:23,889 with somebody. But if we could, 2303 01:08:23,889 --> 01:08:25,624 if we could put a put out the 2304 01:08:25,624 --> 01:08:26,926 procurement as opposed to 2305 01:08:26,926 --> 01:08:27,960 waiting for a month to get 2306 01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:29,361 approval to put out the 2307 01:08:29,361 --> 01:08:30,529 procurement, or having to have 2308 01:08:30,529 --> 01:08:32,300 a special meeting to do that, 2309 01:08:32,300 --> 01:08:33,666 that would be super helpful. It 2310 01:08:33,666 --> 01:08:35,801 would be helpful if we could, 2311 01:08:35,801 --> 01:08:37,202 uh, take the next little bit 2312 01:08:37,202 --> 01:08:39,202 working towards a 2313 01:08:39,305 --> 01:08:40,605 recommendation that then the 2314 01:08:40,605 --> 01:08:41,841 full board would vote on. Does 2315 01:08:41,841 --> 01:08:45,441 that seem like a process that 2316 01:08:47,146 --> 01:08:47,394 we could follow? Being nodding, 2317 01:08:47,394 --> 01:08:48,480 nobody 2318 01:08:48,480 --> 01:08:48,652 s jumping up to say I 2319 01:08:48,652 --> 01:08:49,140 can 2320 01:08:49,140 --> 01:08:49,682 t. So I 2321 01:08:49,682 --> 01:08:51,783 m going to assume 2322 01:08:51,783 --> 01:08:53,719 that we can. Board member 2323 01:08:53,719 --> 01:08:57,319 Dunbar, uh, do you have a 2324 01:08:58,190 --> 01:09:00,190 question or comment? 2325 01:09:00,292 --> 01:09:01,393 Um, if we weren 2326 01:09:01,393 --> 01:09:01,627 t, if we adopt, 2327 01:09:01,627 --> 01:09:03,280 if it 2328 01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:04,296 s adopted, the resolution 2329 01:09:04,296 --> 01:09:04,529 imposing the tax, we wouldn 2330 01:09:04,529 --> 01:09:05,865 t 2331 01:09:05,865 --> 01:09:07,650 start collecting it until 2332 01:09:07,650 --> 01:09:07,239 JANUARY 1st. We wouldn 2333 01:09:07,239 --> 01:09:08,467 t 2334 01:09:08,467 --> 01:09:09,668 receive the first payment until 2335 01:09:09,668 --> 01:09:12,104 later that first quarter of 2336 01:09:12,104 --> 01:09:13,710 next year. So we might have we 2337 01:09:13,710 --> 01:09:14,440 might be able to take this 2338 01:09:14,440 --> 01:09:16,410 issue up when we meet to adopt 2339 01:09:16,410 --> 01:09:17,743 the tax in terms of issuing a 2340 01:09:17,743 --> 01:09:18,911 potential rfp, if we could get 2341 01:09:18,911 --> 01:09:21,311 general authority from the 2342 01:09:21,313 --> 01:09:23,749 board rather than kind of jump 2343 01:09:23,749 --> 01:09:23,916 out ahead of them, if that 2344 01:09:23,916 --> 01:09:25,117 s 2345 01:09:25,117 --> 01:09:25,817 what I was hearing. But I might 2346 01:09:25,817 --> 01:09:27,817 have misheard you. 2347 01:09:28,860 --> 01:09:28,988 But let me ask the question 2348 01:09:28,988 --> 01:09:29,158 back, because I think we 2349 01:09:29,158 --> 01:09:30,156 re 2350 01:09:30,156 --> 01:09:30,422 saying the same thing, but i 2351 01:09:30,422 --> 01:09:31,991 m 2352 01:09:31,991 --> 01:09:33,591 not sure. So let me just say 2353 01:09:33,591 --> 01:09:36,591 that my suggestion would be 2354 01:09:36,628 --> 01:09:39,598 that at the meeting on JUNE 2355 01:09:39,598 --> 01:09:42,670 12th, if the measure to adopt 2356 01:09:42,670 --> 01:09:43,468 the tax passes, that we then 2357 01:09:43,468 --> 01:09:44,603 proceed to have an agenda item 2358 01:09:44,603 --> 01:09:47,506 where we ask the board for 2359 01:09:47,506 --> 01:09:49,307 authorization for this 2360 01:09:49,307 --> 01:09:50,642 executive committee to create a 2361 01:09:50,642 --> 01:09:51,677 scope of work in a procurement 2362 01:09:51,677 --> 01:09:53,779 process that we could put out 2363 01:09:53,779 --> 01:09:55,680 into the world, but not close 2364 01:09:55,680 --> 01:09:55,948 without the vote of the full 2365 01:09:55,948 --> 01:09:56,815 board. 2366 01:09:56,815 --> 01:09:57,349 That makes sense to me. 2367 01:09:57,349 --> 01:09:58,717 Yeah. Okay. 2368 01:09:58,717 --> 01:09:59,151 Thanks. Without, without. I 2369 01:09:59,151 --> 01:10:00,386 ll 2370 01:10:00,386 --> 01:10:01,820 just say, maybe for the record, 2371 01:10:01,820 --> 01:10:02,955 I would tend to lean. Having 2372 01:10:02,955 --> 01:10:04,322 not fully thought about it and 2373 01:10:04,322 --> 01:10:05,891 heard my heard the dialogue, 2374 01:10:05,891 --> 01:10:07,226 but I would tend to lean toward 2375 01:10:07,226 --> 01:10:08,661 perhaps doing the ferry 2376 01:10:08,661 --> 01:10:10,563 district type merger into the 2377 01:10:10,563 --> 01:10:11,960 county for this particular 2378 01:10:11,960 --> 01:10:12,163 entity. But I 2379 01:10:12,163 --> 01:10:13,980 m open to having 2380 01:10:13,980 --> 01:10:13,532 my mind changed. I 2381 01:10:13,532 --> 01:10:14,132 m really 2382 01:10:14,132 --> 01:10:14,432 kind of I know we 2383 01:10:14,432 --> 01:10:15,867 re going to 2384 01:10:15,867 --> 01:10:16,969 look at the cost, but you 2385 01:10:16,969 --> 01:10:18,370 mentioned, you know, the 2386 01:10:18,370 --> 01:10:20,306 accountants and the lawyers and 2387 01:10:20,306 --> 01:10:21,600 the staff and and just, you 2388 01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:21,306 know, we just didn 2389 01:10:21,306 --> 01:10:23,306 t think 2390 01:10:23,408 --> 01:10:24,844 about it. 2391 01:10:24,844 --> 01:10:26,345 There was a little bit of 2392 01:10:26,345 --> 01:10:27,120 analysis attempted. It 2393 01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:28,347 s really 2394 01:10:28,347 --> 01:10:29,810 hard to do because it 2395 01:10:29,810 --> 01:10:31,810 s hard to 2396 01:10:31,483 --> 01:10:34,483 know. Looking at the executive 2397 01:10:34,753 --> 01:10:35,487 branch, what exact costs, say, 2398 01:10:35,487 --> 01:10:37,689 if you were to compare the 2399 01:10:37,689 --> 01:10:40,225 flood control district to, uh, 2400 01:10:40,225 --> 01:10:41,627 a government function that is 2401 01:10:41,627 --> 01:10:43,729 fully merged into the executive 2402 01:10:43,729 --> 01:10:44,563 branch. Some of the people who 2403 01:10:44,563 --> 01:10:47,499 are working on the flood 2404 01:10:47,499 --> 01:10:48,867 control work in, uh, in the 2405 01:10:48,867 --> 01:10:50,269 water land division would do 2406 01:10:50,269 --> 01:10:51,169 that work regardless of whether 2407 01:10:51,169 --> 01:10:52,104 there was a flood control 2408 01:10:52,104 --> 01:10:52,471 district or not. So that 2409 01:10:52,471 --> 01:10:54,273 s not 2410 01:10:54,273 --> 01:10:55,508 duplicative costs. Some of it 2411 01:10:55,508 --> 01:10:56,542 is duplicative. In the example 2412 01:10:56,542 --> 01:10:57,242 I like to use as lawyers, 2413 01:10:57,242 --> 01:10:58,110 because I 2414 01:10:58,110 --> 01:10:58,290 m a former lawyer, I 2415 01:10:58,290 --> 01:10:59,144 don 2416 01:10:59,144 --> 01:10:59,578 t just like to pick on 2417 01:10:59,578 --> 01:11:00,145 lawyers. It 2418 01:11:00,145 --> 01:11:02,470 s just something I 2419 01:11:02,470 --> 01:11:03,749 know a little bit about. Uh, so 2420 01:11:03,749 --> 01:11:04,517 sometimes with the flood 2421 01:11:04,517 --> 01:11:04,884 control district, you 2422 01:11:04,884 --> 01:11:06,285 ll have a 2423 01:11:06,285 --> 01:11:07,786 lawyer for the flood control 2424 01:11:07,786 --> 01:11:09,988 district and a lawyer for water 2425 01:11:09,988 --> 01:11:10,622 and land. And those two things 2426 01:11:10,622 --> 01:11:10,956 are different. They 2427 01:11:10,956 --> 01:11:11,857 re working 2428 01:11:11,857 --> 01:11:12,340 on different projects. They 2429 01:11:12,340 --> 01:11:12,991 re 2430 01:11:12,991 --> 01:11:14,826 giving advice about different 2431 01:11:14,826 --> 01:11:16,127 things. It would happen on both 2432 01:11:16,127 --> 01:11:16,829 sides of the fence, regardless 2433 01:11:16,829 --> 01:11:18,830 of the structure of the 2434 01:11:18,830 --> 01:11:19,331 government. Sometimes they 2435 01:11:19,331 --> 01:11:20,866 re 2436 01:11:20,866 --> 01:11:21,200 working on the same thing, and 2437 01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:22,670 one of them 2438 01:11:22,670 --> 01:11:23,202 s advising the 2439 01:11:23,202 --> 01:11:23,502 flood control district and the 2440 01:11:23,502 --> 01:11:24,503 other one 2441 01:11:24,503 --> 01:11:26,371 s advising the, uh, 2442 01:11:26,371 --> 01:11:27,380 the executive branch, water and 2443 01:11:27,380 --> 01:11:27,839 land. And that 2444 01:11:27,839 --> 01:11:29,700 s duplicative. 2445 01:11:29,700 --> 01:11:30,943 And you could do away with that 2446 01:11:30,943 --> 01:11:32,945 by merging. So the analysis is 2447 01:11:32,945 --> 01:11:33,912 tough because you asked for it 2448 01:11:33,912 --> 01:11:36,315 did not go unnoticed that you 2449 01:11:36,315 --> 01:11:37,882 asked for a fiscal note. And so 2450 01:11:37,882 --> 01:11:39,484 there was some attempt to try 2451 01:11:39,484 --> 01:11:42,287 to do that, but it proved to be 2452 01:11:42,287 --> 01:11:42,588 a little bit difficult. So, um, 2453 01:11:42,588 --> 01:11:44,588 yeah. 2454 01:11:44,924 --> 01:11:47,592 Please go ahead. Share. The 2455 01:11:47,592 --> 01:11:49,227 flood district is probably a 2456 01:11:49,227 --> 01:11:50,280 more expensive example than 2457 01:11:50,280 --> 01:11:51,960 what we would have here, 2458 01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:51,597 because frankly, it 2459 01:11:51,597 --> 01:11:53,132 s got the 2460 01:11:53,132 --> 01:11:54,299 advisory groups and the exact 2461 01:11:54,299 --> 01:11:57,299 committee, and they actually do 2462 01:11:57,402 --> 01:11:58,837 a fair bit of project selection 2463 01:11:58,837 --> 01:11:59,130 and advancement, even though 2464 01:11:59,130 --> 01:11:59,938 it 2465 01:11:59,938 --> 01:12:00,139 s contracted out. There 2466 01:12:00,139 --> 01:12:01,640 s 2467 01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:02,741 actually a fair bit of staff 2468 01:12:02,741 --> 01:12:03,876 work that goes into working 2469 01:12:03,876 --> 01:12:05,543 with the, you know, a lot of 2470 01:12:05,543 --> 01:12:05,910 work there. This feels leaner, 2471 01:12:05,910 --> 01:12:06,812 even if it 2472 01:12:06,812 --> 01:12:07,946 s kept as a separate 2473 01:12:07,946 --> 01:12:09,481 government. But there probably 2474 01:12:09,481 --> 01:12:10,415 are some costs. So I. 2475 01:12:10,415 --> 01:12:10,949 Agreed I think that 2476 01:12:10,949 --> 01:12:12,650 s correct. 2477 01:12:12,650 --> 01:12:13,986 And I also think that staff 2478 01:12:13,986 --> 01:12:15,387 reached for the comparison that 2479 01:12:15,387 --> 01:12:16,521 was closest to hand to to 2480 01:12:16,521 --> 01:12:17,423 compare to the Marine Division 2481 01:12:17,423 --> 01:12:18,723 would have required an 2482 01:12:18,723 --> 01:12:20,124 archaeological dig that goes 2483 01:12:20,124 --> 01:12:21,560 back about ten years or so 2484 01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:22,327 anyway. So board member Perry, 2485 01:12:22,327 --> 01:12:24,327 please go ahead. 2486 01:12:24,597 --> 01:12:25,230 Thank you. Chair I I 2487 01:12:25,230 --> 01:12:26,865 m 2488 01:12:26,865 --> 01:12:27,766 undecided right now about 2489 01:12:27,766 --> 01:12:29,267 whether the county should 2490 01:12:29,267 --> 01:12:30,936 assume a tbd and county or 2491 01:12:30,936 --> 01:12:31,111 remain independent. I don 2492 01:12:31,111 --> 01:12:32,371 t 2493 01:12:32,371 --> 01:12:33,405 have enough information, and I 2494 01:12:33,405 --> 01:12:34,806 appreciate the work that the 2495 01:12:34,806 --> 01:12:35,907 staff has done to bring the 2496 01:12:35,907 --> 01:12:36,208 information forward. But I 2497 01:12:36,208 --> 01:12:37,609 still don 2498 01:12:37,609 --> 01:12:39,644 t have really a sense 2499 01:12:39,644 --> 01:12:41,546 of it. Um, what that comparable 2500 01:12:41,546 --> 01:12:43,482 is. And so 2% from flood, as 2501 01:12:43,482 --> 01:12:44,115 council member mentioned, is 2502 01:12:44,115 --> 01:12:44,516 crazy money. It 2503 01:12:44,516 --> 01:12:44,950 s a lot of 2504 01:12:44,950 --> 01:12:45,884 money. We don 2505 01:12:45,884 --> 01:12:47,386 t need that money 2506 01:12:47,386 --> 01:12:48,987 for this. It would be very 2507 01:12:48,987 --> 01:12:50,723 helpful if the staff would put 2508 01:12:50,723 --> 01:12:51,990 together a side by side 2509 01:12:51,990 --> 01:12:54,390 comparison of what is 2510 01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:55,594 anticipated as costs compared 2511 01:12:55,594 --> 01:12:56,461 to what 2512 01:12:56,461 --> 01:12:58,264 s going on with the 2513 01:12:58,264 --> 01:12:59,998 structure of the flood. If 2514 01:12:59,998 --> 01:13:01,990 something like that would be 2515 01:13:01,990 --> 01:13:02,434 available, like as a 2516 01:13:02,434 --> 01:13:03,635 hypothetical, that would be 2517 01:13:03,635 --> 01:13:04,637 really helpful. Is that. 2518 01:13:04,637 --> 01:13:06,380 Well, the difficult part with 2519 01:13:06,380 --> 01:13:07,806 that is that flood has an 2520 01:13:07,806 --> 01:13:09,274 approved Ila, of which then the 2521 01:13:09,274 --> 01:13:11,143 cost is are built off. The 2522 01:13:11,143 --> 01:13:11,343 kicked does not have that Ila. 2523 01:13:11,343 --> 01:13:13,343 That 2524 01:13:13,946 --> 01:13:15,314 s what resolution 2020 602 2525 01:13:15,314 --> 01:13:15,489 is requesting. And so it 2526 01:13:15,489 --> 01:13:17,282 s 2527 01:13:17,282 --> 01:13:18,484 difficult to understand or 2528 01:13:18,484 --> 01:13:20,510 estimate what administrative 2529 01:13:20,510 --> 01:13:21,320 costs would be without knowing 2530 01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:22,955 what the actual administrative 2531 01:13:22,955 --> 01:13:24,857 functions of the case are going 2532 01:13:24,857 --> 01:13:27,225 to be going forward. 2533 01:13:27,225 --> 01:13:27,659 One thing I would add, I 2534 01:13:27,659 --> 01:13:28,427 probably wasn 2535 01:13:28,427 --> 01:13:30,427 t clear about 2536 01:13:31,530 --> 01:13:35,130 this is my suggestion would be 2537 01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:37,569 that we passed if we pass a tax 2538 01:13:37,569 --> 01:13:39,971 at the next meeting, part of 2539 01:13:39,971 --> 01:13:40,940 the reason to proceed to hire a 2540 01:13:40,940 --> 01:13:42,240 consultant who would be an 2541 01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:42,907 organizational consultant, not 2542 01:13:42,907 --> 01:13:44,677 a lawyer, somebody who 2543 01:13:44,677 --> 01:13:47,712 understood how to set up and 2544 01:13:47,712 --> 01:13:50,112 run a governmental organization 2545 01:13:50,249 --> 01:13:51,516 would be to ask that person to 2546 01:13:51,516 --> 01:13:52,718 work with us and walk us 2547 01:13:52,718 --> 01:13:53,585 through this decision process. 2548 01:13:53,585 --> 01:13:54,686 What are the policy 2549 01:13:54,686 --> 01:13:56,321 implications? What are the cost 2550 01:13:56,321 --> 01:13:57,589 implications to tee that up in 2551 01:13:57,589 --> 01:13:58,357 a way that we could take it on? 2552 01:13:58,357 --> 01:14:00,357 Thankfully. 2553 01:14:00,759 --> 01:14:02,394 I think the issue for me is 2554 01:14:02,394 --> 01:14:04,530 that we are trying to raise 2555 01:14:04,530 --> 01:14:05,864 money for the roads. We are 2556 01:14:05,864 --> 01:14:06,665 trying to raise money for the 2557 01:14:06,665 --> 01:14:08,834 roads, so I don 2558 01:14:08,834 --> 01:14:10,836 t want to add 2559 01:14:10,836 --> 01:14:13,171 to the burden, the cost for 2560 01:14:13,171 --> 01:14:15,171 administration or whatever, 2561 01:14:15,207 --> 01:14:16,876 whatever, um, might take us 2562 01:14:16,876 --> 01:14:18,543 beyond in a more in a less 2563 01:14:18,543 --> 01:14:20,278 efficient way that would take 2564 01:14:20,278 --> 01:14:22,314 funding away from the roads 2565 01:14:22,314 --> 01:14:25,116 that needs the funding. And so 2566 01:14:25,116 --> 01:14:26,485 I, I would like to see that 2567 01:14:26,485 --> 01:14:27,519 breakout and working with 2568 01:14:27,519 --> 01:14:29,421 somebody who can help us do 2569 01:14:29,421 --> 01:14:30,755 that in a smart way. Um, but 2570 01:14:30,755 --> 01:14:32,958 ultimately, I would support 2571 01:14:32,958 --> 01:14:34,593 whatever is the would take the 2572 01:14:34,593 --> 01:14:35,928 least amount of money away from 2573 01:14:35,928 --> 01:14:38,997 roads so they can give us the 2574 01:14:38,997 --> 01:14:41,997 basic safety, safety focus that 2575 01:14:42,134 --> 01:14:43,468 we need. Thanks. 2576 01:14:43,468 --> 01:14:44,837 Um, one thing I forgot to say 2577 01:14:44,837 --> 01:14:46,380 that Nick just reminded me of 2578 01:14:46,380 --> 01:14:47,605 is just to remind us all that 2579 01:14:47,605 --> 01:14:50,442 there is a second resolution 2580 01:14:50,442 --> 01:14:52,443 that will be before the, uh, 2581 01:14:52,443 --> 01:14:56,480 the full board on the 12th. It 2582 01:14:56,480 --> 01:14:58,448 is proposed resolution td 2026. 2583 01:14:59,151 --> 01:15:00,385 Uh, zero two. That would ask 2584 01:15:00,385 --> 01:15:01,920 the executive to develop an 2585 01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:03,421 implementation plan and an 2586 01:15:03,421 --> 01:15:05,821 interlocal agreement to present 2587 01:15:06,191 --> 01:15:07,292 to the board and the county 2588 01:15:07,292 --> 01:15:07,859 council, because they 2589 01:15:07,859 --> 01:15:09,628 d have to 2590 01:15:09,628 --> 01:15:11,162 both would have to approve to 2591 01:15:11,162 --> 01:15:13,665 guide how the work would be 2592 01:15:13,665 --> 01:15:14,899 carried out. Uh, there was a 2593 01:15:14,899 --> 01:15:15,767 striking amendment already 2594 01:15:15,767 --> 01:15:17,569 developed to add some 2595 01:15:17,569 --> 01:15:19,437 clarification. I just want to 2596 01:15:19,437 --> 01:15:20,639 say that we probably need to 2597 01:15:20,639 --> 01:15:21,639 replace that striking 2598 01:15:21,639 --> 01:15:24,390 amendment, which was called 2599 01:15:25,430 --> 01:15:26,412 s-1, with a new one, s2, uh, 2600 01:15:26,412 --> 01:15:27,379 for a couple of reasons. One, 2601 01:15:27,379 --> 01:15:28,914 there were line amendments 2602 01:15:28,914 --> 01:15:30,883 proposed by council members. 2603 01:15:30,883 --> 01:15:32,550 Mosqueda, board members 2604 01:15:32,550 --> 01:15:35,550 Mosqueda and Perry, both of 2605 01:15:35,553 --> 01:15:37,222 which, uh, I think are good 2606 01:15:37,222 --> 01:15:38,923 additions, and I would like to 2607 01:15:38,923 --> 01:15:40,559 include them in the striker. 2608 01:15:40,559 --> 01:15:42,994 And secondly, we might want to 2609 01:15:42,994 --> 01:15:44,262 rewrite this a little bit to 2610 01:15:44,262 --> 01:15:45,630 make sure that we are pointing 2611 01:15:45,630 --> 01:15:45,237 towards the direction we 2612 01:15:45,237 --> 01:15:46,932 ve 2613 01:15:46,932 --> 01:15:48,767 been discussing about the 2614 01:15:48,767 --> 01:15:48,945 future work. I mean, we don 2615 01:15:48,945 --> 01:15:50,202 t 2616 01:15:50,202 --> 01:15:51,503 want to hold off on asking for 2617 01:15:51,503 --> 01:15:53,138 the implementation plan for the 2618 01:15:53,138 --> 01:15:53,639 money, but we also don 2619 01:15:53,639 --> 01:15:55,400 t want 2620 01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:56,308 to tie our hands about what our 2621 01:15:56,308 --> 01:15:57,109 decision is about function. And 2622 01:15:57,109 --> 01:15:58,760 there might need to be a little 2623 01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:00,612 bit of tweaking of the language 2624 01:16:00,612 --> 01:16:04,212 to leave the options open. So 2625 01:16:05,517 --> 01:16:06,852 with that, I plan to continue 2626 01:16:06,852 --> 01:16:09,721 working with staff and legal 2627 01:16:09,721 --> 01:16:13,321 counsel between now and the end 2628 01:16:13,492 --> 01:16:15,394 of the of next meeting on the 2629 01:16:15,394 --> 01:16:16,394 steps the board have to take to 2630 01:16:16,394 --> 01:16:17,729 authorize the Executive 2631 01:16:17,729 --> 01:16:18,163 committee to take the next 2632 01:16:18,163 --> 01:16:19,300 step. And I 2633 01:16:19,300 --> 01:16:20,232 m going to say next 2634 01:16:20,232 --> 01:16:21,232 steps. We 2635 01:16:21,232 --> 01:16:23,232 re really stepping 2636 01:16:24,569 --> 01:16:26,171 this out. Um, but it would be 2637 01:16:26,171 --> 01:16:28,140 an interesting problem to have 2638 01:16:28,140 --> 01:16:31,420 standing up an organization to 2639 01:16:31,420 --> 01:16:33,445 a fund, a set of needs that we 2640 01:16:33,445 --> 01:16:36,810 have not funded adequately for 2641 01:16:36,810 --> 01:16:36,982 a very long time. All right. 2642 01:16:36,982 --> 01:16:37,982 That brings me to the end of 2643 01:16:37,982 --> 01:16:38,183 this agenda item. Unless 2644 01:16:38,183 --> 01:16:39,117 there 2645 01:16:39,117 --> 01:16:40,519 s any more questions or 2646 01:16:40,519 --> 01:16:41,719 discussions, sounds like we 2647 01:16:41,719 --> 01:16:43,522 have a plan. I want to say, 2648 01:16:43,522 --> 01:16:44,623 just again, for the record, 2649 01:16:44,623 --> 01:16:47,192 thank you. Well, thank you, 2650 01:16:47,192 --> 01:16:48,393 first of all, to, um, Board 2651 01:16:48,393 --> 01:16:51,162 Member Fein, who has taken on 2652 01:16:51,162 --> 01:16:52,931 quite a laboring or, uh, and I 2653 01:16:52,931 --> 01:16:54,650 mean, at the risk of sounding a 2654 01:16:54,650 --> 01:16:54,599 little defensive, I 2655 01:16:54,599 --> 01:16:55,670 m going to 2656 01:16:55,670 --> 01:16:56,201 say I 2657 01:16:56,201 --> 01:16:57,135 m very proud of board 2658 01:16:57,135 --> 01:16:57,469 Member Fein, and I 2659 01:16:57,469 --> 01:16:58,703 m going to 2660 01:16:58,703 --> 01:17:00,706 pat myself on the back just a 2661 01:17:00,706 --> 01:17:02,140 little bit. I have zero 2662 01:17:02,140 --> 01:17:03,408 unincorporated roads in my 2663 01:17:03,408 --> 01:17:04,760 district, and she has very 2664 01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:04,676 little, and we 2665 01:17:04,676 --> 01:17:05,430 re doing a lot 2666 01:17:05,430 --> 01:17:06,412 of work. Y 2667 01:17:06,412 --> 01:17:08,146 all. 2668 01:17:08,146 --> 01:17:10,615 And let the and let the people 2669 01:17:10,615 --> 01:17:12,117 say thank you. 2670 01:17:12,117 --> 01:17:13,251 There I was begging for that 2671 01:17:13,251 --> 01:17:14,853 compliment. Thank you so much. 2672 01:17:14,853 --> 01:17:15,987 All right. Um. 2673 01:17:15,987 --> 01:17:16,254 Just say something to that 2674 01:17:16,254 --> 01:17:16,488 effect. 2675 01:17:16,488 --> 01:17:17,823 Please. 2676 01:17:17,823 --> 01:17:19,557 Go ahead. I just I want to 2677 01:17:19,557 --> 01:17:21,426 recognize as somebody who has 2678 01:17:21,426 --> 01:17:21,660 1000mi of King County 2679 01:17:21,660 --> 01:17:23,660 s 2680 01:17:25,300 --> 01:17:26,431 2300mi in my district. So 2681 01:17:26,431 --> 01:17:28,233 almost half of King County in 2682 01:17:28,233 --> 01:17:30,168 my district and 500 of the 2683 01:17:30,168 --> 01:17:30,401 miles of unincorporated road 2684 01:17:30,401 --> 01:17:31,903 that we 2685 01:17:31,903 --> 01:17:33,805 re talking about here. 2686 01:17:33,805 --> 01:17:34,939 Um, and so many in South King 2687 01:17:34,939 --> 01:17:37,709 County were affected by the 2688 01:17:37,709 --> 01:17:39,611 flood. We have an inordinate 2689 01:17:39,611 --> 01:17:41,947 amount of impact from fires, 2690 01:17:41,947 --> 01:17:44,947 floods, bomb cyclones and all 2691 01:17:45,830 --> 01:17:47,520 kinds of things. And so I see 2692 01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:48,353 it a lot. I see it just a lot 2693 01:17:48,353 --> 01:17:51,389 of it. And our people are 2694 01:17:51,389 --> 01:17:54,359 struggling in these cases. And, 2695 01:17:54,359 --> 01:17:56,361 and it it is very gratifying to 2696 01:17:56,361 --> 01:17:57,729 be up here among just a couple 2697 01:17:57,729 --> 01:17:57,929 of us between Councilmember 2698 01:17:57,929 --> 01:17:58,764 Dunn 2699 01:17:58,764 --> 01:17:58,946 s district and mine. We 2700 01:17:58,946 --> 01:18:00,946 re 2701 01:18:01,990 --> 01:18:03,201 at 150,000 people living in 2702 01:18:03,201 --> 01:18:03,401 unincorporated King County. And 2703 01:18:03,401 --> 01:18:05,170 that 2704 01:18:05,170 --> 01:18:06,204 s rural, unincorporated. 2705 01:18:06,204 --> 01:18:08,507 And then we have urban, 2706 01:18:08,507 --> 01:18:10,740 unincorporated, a sky Skyway, 2707 01:18:10,740 --> 01:18:12,410 and North Highline, which is, I 2708 01:18:12,410 --> 01:18:12,586 think 11,000 for Skyway. And 2709 01:18:12,586 --> 01:18:13,746 it 2710 01:18:13,746 --> 01:18:16,470 s a total of maybe 15, 2711 01:18:16,470 --> 01:18:17,548 20,000 folks in there. They 2712 01:18:17,548 --> 01:18:19,830 have different needs, but we 2713 01:18:19,830 --> 01:18:20,318 really, really need this 2714 01:18:20,318 --> 01:18:22,954 support. And to have the 2715 01:18:22,954 --> 01:18:25,223 support of both. Councilmember 2716 01:18:25,223 --> 01:18:27,223 Fein, Councilmember Dombrowski, 2717 01:18:27,926 --> 01:18:31,620 who who I we schemed together 2718 01:18:31,620 --> 01:18:33,165 on this so long ago. And, uh, 2719 01:18:33,165 --> 01:18:34,199 Chair Balducci, it really I 2720 01:18:34,199 --> 01:18:35,967 really, really appreciate the 2721 01:18:35,967 --> 01:18:38,203 fact that all three of you are 2722 01:18:38,203 --> 01:18:38,804 located in very urban spaces. 2723 01:18:38,804 --> 01:18:39,237 Thank you. 2724 01:18:39,237 --> 01:18:39,771 Yeah. No, that 2725 01:18:39,771 --> 01:18:40,872 s fair. And I 2726 01:18:40,872 --> 01:18:41,340 want to I want to add that as 2727 01:18:41,340 --> 01:18:42,941 well that there 2728 01:18:42,941 --> 01:18:45,900 s been, uh, all 2729 01:18:45,900 --> 01:18:46,912 all of us here have lifted this 2730 01:18:46,912 --> 01:18:48,980 work up through effort in the 2731 01:18:48,980 --> 01:18:50,181 last two years. And I feel good 2732 01:18:50,181 --> 01:18:51,183 that we are getting close to a 2733 01:18:51,183 --> 01:18:51,450 decision. I think that 2734 01:18:51,450 --> 01:18:52,484 s the 2735 01:18:52,484 --> 01:18:55,554 important part, is that we get 2736 01:18:55,554 --> 01:18:56,521 to the decision. All right. Um, 2737 01:18:56,521 --> 01:18:58,323 so thank you for a very 2738 01:18:58,323 --> 01:19:00,323 productive discussion today. 2739 01:19:00,358 --> 01:19:00,532 Uh, as we discussed, uh, we 2740 01:19:00,532 --> 01:19:02,270 re 2741 01:19:02,270 --> 01:19:04,930 going to guide the development 2742 01:19:04,930 --> 01:19:07,699 of the striking amendment. And, 2743 01:19:07,699 --> 01:19:09,835 uh, the updated striker to, uh, 2744 01:19:09,835 --> 01:19:10,235 s1 and s2. Uh, I 2745 01:19:10,235 --> 01:19:12,203 m going to 2746 01:19:12,203 --> 01:19:12,378 take the laboring aura on s2. 2747 01:19:12,378 --> 01:19:13,671 We 2748 01:19:13,671 --> 01:19:14,773 re going to continue to use 2749 01:19:14,773 --> 01:19:15,140 council board Member Fein 2750 01:19:15,140 --> 01:19:16,842 s 2751 01:19:16,842 --> 01:19:18,977 amendment as the basis for s1. 2752 01:19:18,977 --> 01:19:19,152 And just reiterate, uh, we 2753 01:19:19,152 --> 01:19:20,746 re 2754 01:19:20,746 --> 01:19:22,514 going to publish today this 2755 01:19:22,514 --> 01:19:24,249 following schedule striking 2756 01:19:24,249 --> 01:19:26,851 amendments, both of them, uh, 2757 01:19:26,851 --> 01:19:29,200 to be issued this Friday, MAY 2758 01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:30,722 29th. Line amendments asked for 2759 01:19:30,722 --> 01:19:33,224 by, uh, close of business 2760 01:19:33,224 --> 01:19:34,793 Tuesday, JUNE 2nd. Full packet 2761 01:19:34,793 --> 01:19:36,194 of amendments published by 2762 01:19:36,194 --> 01:19:38,830 close of business on Friday, 2763 01:19:38,830 --> 01:19:40,799 JUNE 5th for a meeting of the 2764 01:19:40,799 --> 01:19:43,835 full board to be held on 2765 01:19:43,835 --> 01:19:44,330 Friday, JUNE 12th. Uh, we don 2766 01:19:44,330 --> 01:19:44,869 t 2767 01:19:44,869 --> 01:19:45,550 have an exact time yet. We 2768 01:19:45,550 --> 01:19:46,271 re 2769 01:19:46,271 --> 01:19:48,606 working with offices to try to 2770 01:19:48,606 --> 01:19:49,107 get a time board member. 2771 01:19:49,107 --> 01:19:50,242 Domestic. I 2772 01:19:50,242 --> 01:19:53,111 m sorry to go back, 2773 01:19:53,111 --> 01:19:55,747 but I have a question on that 2774 01:19:55,747 --> 01:19:57,849 damn Bellevue tif thing and how 2775 01:19:57,849 --> 01:19:59,350 it interacts about it. This. 2776 01:19:59,350 --> 01:20:00,585 Could someone explain to me? 2777 01:20:00,585 --> 01:20:00,759 And sorry for swearing, but 2778 01:20:00,759 --> 01:20:02,720 it 2779 01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:04,756 s I kind of run around it. 2780 01:20:04,756 --> 01:20:07,592 Are we are we penalizing 2781 01:20:07,592 --> 01:20:09,561 Bellevue in this pass through 2782 01:20:09,561 --> 01:20:10,796 the way the legislation is 2783 01:20:10,796 --> 01:20:12,664 expected to come forward 2784 01:20:12,664 --> 01:20:14,399 because we worked with them on 2785 01:20:14,399 --> 01:20:17,399 a wholly different thing to 2786 01:20:17,603 --> 01:20:19,710 fund the grand connection. 2787 01:20:19,710 --> 01:20:21,873 Uh, as a representative of 2788 01:20:21,873 --> 01:20:22,240 Bellevue. Let me let me. 2789 01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:24,240 Is maybe. 2790 01:20:24,843 --> 01:20:26,644 A and. The word sponsor of, of 2791 01:20:26,644 --> 01:20:29,470 this language. Um, I do not 2792 01:20:29,470 --> 01:20:29,248 believe that we are because 2793 01:20:29,248 --> 01:20:29,548 there 2794 01:20:29,548 --> 01:20:29,718 s and there 2795 01:20:29,718 --> 01:20:30,782 s a 2796 01:20:30,782 --> 01:20:33,652 spreadsheet, and I would be 2797 01:20:33,652 --> 01:20:36,288 happy to walk through it or to 2798 01:20:36,288 --> 01:20:37,789 more, uh, more happy to offer 2799 01:20:37,789 --> 01:20:38,757 Mary Bourguignon to walk you 2800 01:20:38,757 --> 01:20:39,524 through it. You 2801 01:20:39,524 --> 01:20:41,260 ll see if you 2802 01:20:41,260 --> 01:20:42,794 look at it, Bellevue is 2803 01:20:42,794 --> 01:20:44,362 eligible for by the terms of 2804 01:20:44,362 --> 01:20:45,230 the tif legislation adopted by 2805 01:20:45,230 --> 01:20:45,430 the King County Council, 2806 01:20:45,430 --> 01:20:46,864 they 2807 01:20:46,864 --> 01:20:49,670 re eligible to up to $30 2808 01:20:49,670 --> 01:20:51,270 million capped. Yes. They will 2809 01:20:51,270 --> 01:20:52,904 receive $30 million. Okay. No 2810 01:20:52,904 --> 01:20:54,839 matter how we do this. Okay. 2811 01:20:54,839 --> 01:20:56,207 The question is, when it does 2812 01:20:56,207 --> 01:20:57,742 happen more quickly under one 2813 01:20:57,742 --> 01:21:00,145 scenario, a little more slowly. 2814 01:21:00,145 --> 01:21:01,546 With this scenario and the 2815 01:21:01,546 --> 01:21:05,146 bigger question in my mind is 2816 01:21:05,950 --> 01:21:08,950 about where does their funding 2817 01:21:08,953 --> 01:21:11,623 come from? So under the tif 2818 01:21:11,623 --> 01:21:14,392 legislation, there is an offset 2819 01:21:14,392 --> 01:21:17,280 that if and we adopted this as 2820 01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:18,964 proposed by the executive, if 2821 01:21:18,964 --> 01:21:20,866 Bellevue were to receive a 2822 01:21:20,866 --> 01:21:23,869 sales tax pass through by that 2823 01:21:23,869 --> 01:21:24,469 ordinance, it offsets the tif. 2824 01:21:24,469 --> 01:21:25,403 So they get. 2825 01:21:25,403 --> 01:21:25,770 Up to the part of the deal they 2826 01:21:25,770 --> 01:21:25,940 negotiate. 2827 01:21:25,940 --> 01:21:27,500 It 2828 01:21:27,500 --> 01:21:29,907 s just part of the deal. 2829 01:21:29,907 --> 01:21:31,943 This now creates a this is the 2830 01:21:31,943 --> 01:21:34,913 complicated part, a kind of, 2831 01:21:34,913 --> 01:21:37,913 uh, infinity loop of offsets. 2832 01:21:38,916 --> 01:21:39,317 Oh, uh, where some of the sales 2833 01:21:39,317 --> 01:21:39,518 tax. 2834 01:21:39,518 --> 01:21:40,685 Doesn 2835 01:21:40,685 --> 01:21:41,286 t really matter. 2836 01:21:41,286 --> 01:21:42,187 Some of it doesn 2837 01:21:42,187 --> 01:21:43,555 t pass through 2838 01:21:43,555 --> 01:21:44,790 to Bellevue and remains in the 2839 01:21:44,790 --> 01:21:46,692 roads Fund. And the benefit of 2840 01:21:46,692 --> 01:21:49,360 that is more money to roads 2841 01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:51,262 division. They will still 2842 01:21:51,262 --> 01:21:52,764 receive enough pass through, 2843 01:21:52,764 --> 01:21:54,466 nevertheless, that it will 2844 01:21:54,466 --> 01:21:56,368 trigger the offset of property 2845 01:21:56,368 --> 01:21:56,635 tax. Nevertheless, they 2846 01:21:56,635 --> 01:21:58,203 ll get 2847 01:21:58,203 --> 01:21:59,404 to get their $30 million at the 2848 01:21:59,404 --> 01:22:00,405 end of the day. And I have 2849 01:22:00,405 --> 01:22:01,739 talked to them extensively 2850 01:22:01,739 --> 01:22:01,913 about this. And while they 2851 01:22:01,913 --> 01:22:02,840 re 2852 01:22:02,840 --> 01:22:04,342 not going to come down and say, 2853 01:22:04,342 --> 01:22:04,676 yes, please do this complicated 2854 01:22:04,676 --> 01:22:05,610 thing, they 2855 01:22:05,610 --> 01:22:06,780 re not objecting to 2856 01:22:06,780 --> 01:22:06,411 it, okay? 2857 01:22:06,411 --> 01:22:07,345 It won 2858 01:22:07,345 --> 01:22:08,446 t affect their ability 2859 01:22:08,446 --> 01:22:08,880 to issue the debt and all of 2860 01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:10,582 that because. 2861 01:22:10,582 --> 01:22:11,683 Of also they have the choice, 2862 01:22:11,683 --> 01:22:13,552 the same choice that every 2863 01:22:13,552 --> 01:22:14,753 district, every city will have 2864 01:22:14,753 --> 01:22:16,154 under the proposed c tip 2865 01:22:16,154 --> 01:22:18,423 program to choose not to take 2866 01:22:18,423 --> 01:22:19,824 the. If so, if they did feel 2867 01:22:19,824 --> 01:22:21,326 that accepting the sales tax 2868 01:22:21,326 --> 01:22:21,659 was hurting them, they could 2869 01:22:21,659 --> 01:22:22,261 say, we don 2870 01:22:22,261 --> 01:22:23,362 t want the sales 2871 01:22:23,362 --> 01:22:24,195 tax. We want to stick with the 2872 01:22:24,195 --> 01:22:25,597 tif deal. 2873 01:22:25,597 --> 01:22:26,497 Okay. 2874 01:22:26,497 --> 01:22:27,650 We wrapped up. It 2875 01:22:27,650 --> 01:22:27,565 s it 2876 01:22:27,565 --> 01:22:28,266 s it 2877 01:22:28,266 --> 01:22:30,266 s 2878 01:22:30,301 --> 01:22:31,636 really like stroke inducing how 2879 01:22:31,636 --> 01:22:32,704 complicated this is. And 2880 01:22:32,704 --> 01:22:33,872 probably by the way, I made a 2881 01:22:33,872 --> 01:22:34,940 joke in the lawyers directions 2882 01:22:34,940 --> 01:22:36,408 before I need to say thank you. 2883 01:22:36,408 --> 01:22:37,475 They both worked very, very 2884 01:22:37,475 --> 01:22:38,810 hard to get that language 2885 01:22:38,810 --> 01:22:40,311 right. Sorry. 2886 01:22:40,311 --> 01:22:41,346 Go ahead sir. No thanks. I 2887 01:22:41,346 --> 01:22:42,347 probably I don 2888 01:22:42,347 --> 01:22:43,949 t know why we 2889 01:22:43,949 --> 01:22:45,450 conflated these two things, but 2890 01:22:45,450 --> 01:22:47,485 that happened. I would just 2891 01:22:47,485 --> 01:22:47,852 like to my personal view to get 2892 01:22:47,852 --> 01:22:48,620 there. I don 2893 01:22:48,620 --> 01:22:49,620 t know the names, 2894 01:22:49,620 --> 01:22:50,956 but I would like to just keep 2895 01:22:50,956 --> 01:22:52,323 Bellevue whole in the simplest 2896 01:22:52,323 --> 01:22:53,240 way. We did a $30 million deal 2897 01:22:53,240 --> 01:22:53,558 with them. That 2898 01:22:53,558 --> 01:22:55,126 s what I think 2899 01:22:55,126 --> 01:22:55,326 we got to honor. But I guess 2900 01:22:55,326 --> 01:22:56,761 there 2901 01:22:56,761 --> 01:22:58,463 s a wrinkle wrinkle in 2902 01:22:58,463 --> 01:22:59,564 it. So if we need some language 2903 01:22:59,564 --> 01:23:00,665 here, Councilmember relativity, 2904 01:23:00,665 --> 01:23:01,999 that would make sure we 2905 01:23:01,999 --> 01:23:03,968 re not 2906 01:23:03,968 --> 01:23:05,170 penalizing them. I would be 2907 01:23:05,170 --> 01:23:07,570 inclined to support that. 2908 01:23:07,839 --> 01:23:08,390 Okay. I, I think the way we 2909 01:23:08,390 --> 01:23:09,941 ve 2910 01:23:09,941 --> 01:23:10,142 done this achieves that. It 2911 01:23:10,142 --> 01:23:12,142 doesn 2912 01:23:13,812 --> 01:23:16,212 t penalize them while 2913 01:23:17,480 --> 01:23:18,316 retaining the maximum amount of 2914 01:23:18,316 --> 01:23:19,718 sales tax within the roads 2915 01:23:19,718 --> 01:23:20,718 fund, as opposed to passing it 2916 01:23:20,718 --> 01:23:21,886 to Bellevue and having it 2917 01:23:21,886 --> 01:23:23,287 offset the general fund in the 2918 01:23:23,287 --> 01:23:24,189 county. I mean, that was the 2919 01:23:24,189 --> 01:23:24,426 choice, really. It was like, 2920 01:23:24,426 --> 01:23:25,156 who 2921 01:23:25,156 --> 01:23:26,900 s going to benefit from 2922 01:23:26,900 --> 01:23:27,910 this? Somebody was going to 2923 01:23:27,910 --> 01:23:29,227 either the general fund in the 2924 01:23:29,227 --> 01:23:31,162 county or the sales tax that we 2925 01:23:31,162 --> 01:23:33,598 passed through that we collect 2926 01:23:33,598 --> 01:23:35,167 for roads. And it felt like a 2927 01:23:35,167 --> 01:23:36,167 balance because there will be 2928 01:23:36,167 --> 01:23:37,168 an offset that benefits the 2929 01:23:37,168 --> 01:23:40,171 general fund. There will be an 2930 01:23:40,171 --> 01:23:42,207 offset that benefits the sales 2931 01:23:42,207 --> 01:23:43,442 tax for roads. And Bellevue 2932 01:23:43,442 --> 01:23:44,576 will get their full 30 million 2933 01:23:44,576 --> 01:23:44,809 benefit out of the tif. It 2934 01:23:44,809 --> 01:23:46,809 s 2935 01:23:48,446 --> 01:23:51,446 just kind of complicated. Yeah. 2936 01:23:52,517 --> 01:23:53,552 Okay. Uh. Thank you. That was 2937 01:23:53,552 --> 01:23:56,287 the mental workout I needed 2938 01:23:56,287 --> 01:23:57,388 today. Um, all right. 2939 01:23:57,388 --> 01:23:57,722 Doing all the staff reporting 2940 01:23:57,722 --> 01:23:58,923 here. 2941 01:23:58,923 --> 01:23:59,558 Uh, yeah, I just I 2942 01:23:59,558 --> 01:24:00,758 m sorry. You 2943 01:24:00,758 --> 01:24:01,920 all I am, I just, uh, it 2944 01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:01,262 s a 2945 01:24:01,262 --> 01:24:02,427 it 2946 01:24:02,427 --> 01:24:02,627 s a I hope this doesn 2947 01:24:02,627 --> 01:24:04,462 t 2948 01:24:04,462 --> 01:24:05,630 become a habit with me. And I 2949 01:24:05,630 --> 01:24:06,464 apologize for doing so much 2950 01:24:06,464 --> 01:24:07,465 talking. The staff has been 2951 01:24:07,465 --> 01:24:07,966 doing, as you can see from the 2952 01:24:07,966 --> 01:24:08,566 materials, they 2953 01:24:08,566 --> 01:24:09,968 ve done a ton 2954 01:24:09,968 --> 01:24:11,302 of work to help inform 2955 01:24:11,302 --> 01:24:13,104 everything. I just wanted to 2956 01:24:13,104 --> 01:24:15,373 kind of hurt us. Towards the 2957 01:24:15,373 --> 01:24:15,552 12th. All right. I think we 2958 01:24:15,552 --> 01:24:16,174 ve 2959 01:24:16,174 --> 01:24:16,742 made it. I think we 2960 01:24:16,742 --> 01:24:18,742 ve done it. 2961 01:24:18,843 --> 01:24:21,843 Any other questions or issues 2962 01:24:22,480 --> 01:24:23,715 to come before the body seeing 2963 01:24:23,715 --> 01:24:24,782 none. We have a plan and we 2964 01:24:24,782 --> 01:24:25,984 will be working towards the 2965 01:24:25,984 --> 01:24:27,252 12th. And I look forward to 2966 01:24:27,252 --> 01:24:28,687 seeing you all. Then this 2967 01:24:28,687 --> 01:24:30,687 meeting is adjourned.