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Afternoon and welcome to the

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JUNE 10th meeting of the

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Regional Policy Committee. To

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manage today

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s meeting, I

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like to ask only the committee

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members and the scheduled

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presenters. Join us on the zoom

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platform. We

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ll start the

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meeting by having the clerk

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call the roll. Angelica.

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Angelica, can you hear me?

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Sorry. Can I. Am now working?

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Can you hear me?

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Now we can.

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Okay. Council Member Arnold.

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MAY your back is. Here. MAY

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your pallone. Council member

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Robinson. MAY your round.

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Here.

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Angelica.

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Chair von Reichbauer. I can

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take over for Angelica.

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I think you should.

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Yes. Thank you. Uh, Mayor

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Rebello. Council member.

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Juarez. Council member. Lynn.

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Council member. Foster. Council

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member rank. Councilmember

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Baron.

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Here.

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Councilmember. Perry. Chair.

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Von Reichbauer.

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Here. Well, I want to thank

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you, everyone, for attending

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today

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s regional policy

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Committee. We have a short

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agenda today that includes a

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briefing from the executive

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staff on the implementation

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status of the King County Youth

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Diversion and Intervention

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Program. We

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ve made today

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meeting shorter than usual, so

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that many of you can attend the

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state of the County address of

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the county executive.

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Do you need me to do the roll

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call?

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re fine. We

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re fine. Thank

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you. And, uh, and we

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re going

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to have an opportunity tonight

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to have the county executive

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give a address in South King

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County at the Performance Arts

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Center. At this time. Going to

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our today

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s briefing, we

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joined by Jen Tanaka and

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Jennifer Hill, who are the

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acting director and acting

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deputy director, respectively,

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of dcfs children, youth and

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Young Adults Division. Acting

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director Tanaka and Acting

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Director Hill are going to

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provide the committee with an

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update on the implementation

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status of the King County Youth

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Diversion and Intervention

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Program. Thank you both for

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being here. Go ahead and begin.

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Thank you. Chair. Uh, and

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thanks for the invitation and

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the opportunity to present to

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the committee. Um, as

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requested, we are here to give

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a brief overview and leave time

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for questions on the King

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County Youth Diversion and

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Intervention Program. And my

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colleague Jennifer, um, we

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both named Jennifer. I go by

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Jen. She goes by Jennifer. Just

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because we

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re often in the same

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meetings, and it makes it a

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little easier. But if you call

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either one of us those, uh, we

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will respond. Um, so we thought

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we would just give a brief

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overview. Um, as background,

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you MAY recall and MAY be aware

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that in 2020, the King County

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Department of Public Defense

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and the prosecutor, prosecuting

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Attorney

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s office proposed,

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together with community

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organizations, Restorative

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Community Pathways in 2020. Um,

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this was added to the King

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County budget in 2021. The 2122

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budget and through an rfp

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process and implementation

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planning services were launched

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in NOVEMBER of 2021. Um, and

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this is a community based

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diversion program that really

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looked to work with young

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people under the age of 18 who

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were referred from the

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prosecuting attorney

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s office

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to the program and to have a

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community navigators and

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community organizations which

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worked directly with those

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referred youth and what was new

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to the program at the time,

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also was serving community

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members who experienced harm.

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previous diversion initiatives

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as well. So there are just some

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of the core services which are

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provided in the program as, as

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background and then bringing

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you up to speed in 2025. Um,

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um, sorry. Can you go back one

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more slide, Jennifer. Um, so as

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the program was running, we

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given a number of reports to

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council. Um, I don

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ve actually presented here,

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if I recall correctly, but a

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number of of reports and

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updates on the data. But in

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2025, the King County Executive

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actually put forth changes as

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part of the budget process. Um,

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to and renaming and re

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relaunching the program as the

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King County Youth Diversion and

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Intervention Program. So that

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s the context where we are

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now as part of the budget

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process at the end of the year.

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And in APRIL earlier this year,

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we have with the executive

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transmitted a report which sort

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of talks about that, the

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transition plan as well as the

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design and the future King

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County, um, Youth Diversion and

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Intervention program. So that

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has not yet been heard and

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discussed in council, but

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you

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re getting a preview here

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as well as this ongoing

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process, um, with the council.

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s a great opportunity to

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kind of get insights into it

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and happy to answer any

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questions. And then just to

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kind of recap what we

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looking at as part of our

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restorative community pathways.

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Um, a total of 522 young people

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have been served, 290 and um,

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in 2025 exited um, and of those,

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223 or 77% completed rcp

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programming. So this is just

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some of the data which we have

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reported on over the years. And

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remember, we

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young people being served,

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referred from the prosecuting

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attorney

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s office, as well as

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community members who

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experienced harm. And the data

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there looks at the number of

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students who have exited, those

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programming. So still, one

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thing I do like to remind folks

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is that these are youth. So

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under the age of 18, um, who

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are in a in an incident and an

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alleged incident, misdemeanors.

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young people being served is,

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is, is currently 15 or 15.5.

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members who

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harm, right. So those get

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referred together to the

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program and someone reaches out

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and looks at an accountability

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or a restorative justice

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process, or whether or not that

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individual needs services and

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supports and the average age of

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those community members is

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18.8. Um, this is just a little

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bit on the, um, program.

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Participants in their

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geographic distribution list,

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that being our top five zip

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codes served in Auburn, Federal

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Way in Kent. Um, but you see,

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we have, um, participants

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ranging from shoreline past

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to green water. Okay, so, um,

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what is the King County? That

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sort of the background. Just to

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understand that as we are

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currently right now in the

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process of transitioning from

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restoring community pathways to

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the King County Youth Diversion

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and Intervention Program, um,

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there are some elements that

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still remain the same in the

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sense of this being a pre

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filing, community based

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diversion program for youth

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under the age of 18 referred

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from law enforcement to the

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prosecuting attorney

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and then to the program. Um,

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and these young people have

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alleged misdemeanors. So as a

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community based diversion

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initiative or program, we

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working with contracted

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community organizations that

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will be working, that will

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providing support to those

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young people that referred um

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or and family members, as well

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as any community member who

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experienced harm in the

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incident and responding to

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their needs. Um, as well as,

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um, sorry, just have something

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dinging here. Uh, responding to

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the community members to

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respond to the to the needs of

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both the youth and the

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community members who

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experienced harm. And then just

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briefly or an overview, you

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know, the long term, the long

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term is really how do we, um,

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how do we and what we have to

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learn is how do we intervene

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early on? Young people who have

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been identified through an

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incident referral through the

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prosecuting attorney

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s office.

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Um, um, to identify, to provide

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that support, to provide an

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opportunity for meaningful, non

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punitive accountability for the

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alleged misdemeanor, and also

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connect to needed services.

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We

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ve had a lot of data and

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evaluation report that talked

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about the key role of basic

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needs for many of the young

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people, housing security or

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housing stability. Clothes,

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food, connection to behavioral

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behavioral health services. So

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a lot of what that navigator

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does is understand is this

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young person in crisis and

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what

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s the level of their

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needs. Um, and so and those

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vary depending on the

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individual being referred. I

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think we can move on. Um, so as

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laid out in our plan, um, what

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changes with the King County

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youth Diversion and

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Intervention program? One of

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the biggest changes that we

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re

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making is we have the role of

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the referral administrator and

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the consortium coordination

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used to sit in a community

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organization. So the pa would

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refer directly to a referral

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administrator who sat in a

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community organization. We

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ve

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actually brought that in-house

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to dhs. S and I

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ll talk a

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little bit about that later.

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But that way. So we are working

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directly with the prosecuting

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attorney

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s office. Um, and they

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will refer that case or that

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that young person and the

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associated community member

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who

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s experienced hard to dhs.

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And we

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ve sort of been we

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ve

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changed up a little bit. The

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triaging that happens at that

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referral administration before,

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uh, that understanding, that

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case, contacting that young

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person and then referring them

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to the community organization

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which best meets their needs,

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that could be geographic, uh,

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cultural or, um, or other in

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terms of their, their

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programming that can really

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best serve that young person.

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Uh, we are launching a new rfp

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to re procure the community

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based services. So this looks

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at new organizations will be

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applying to this, um, to

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provide services within case

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id, um, and within that rfp, we

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have outlined enhanced data

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collection, which we

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re

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planning for this the launch of

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of Cassidy, especially around

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school and and education

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engagement. Um, a lot of the

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cases, um, or incidents that

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are coming to us, those

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misdemeanors of of the of these

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children and youth are, um,

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originating from schools can

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think of it as maybe a school

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fight. Um, and that and so, um,

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at this age especially. Right,

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they

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re all under 18. They

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should all be in school. It was

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like where, uh, we

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re going to

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do more. Also, understanding

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the, um, the, the status of

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their school, what support they

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might need to get back in

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school or find alternative

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education pathways. Um, but

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just staying engaged in

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education. Um, among other

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things, which I will be

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presenting on later. Um, as

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well, we believe that having a

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closer role in managing, uh,

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the triaging and administration

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referral process that will also

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allow us to make faster

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connections within dhs services

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and county services so that we

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can, um, bridge a little bit

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the the services and

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connections and partners that

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we hold within dhs to actually

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meet the needs of the young

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people. Um, and community

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members being referred to the

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program. Um, we

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re adding a

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school liaison position to

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support, um, to really add

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support to work with community

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partners, work with youth to,

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to focus on, uh, getting back

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into school, staying in school

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and being successful in school.

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So that adds that capacity. Um,

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previously, the Youth and

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Family Fund, which is you can

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look at that as sort of the

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basic needs fund to provide

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support was, was, um,

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centralized. And then it was

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coordinated within that. We

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were just decentralizing that

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and including that within the

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contracts of each of the future

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partners, as well as the youth

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steering committee. If you knew

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about the program before, um,

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went, um, which operated for a

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little bit during the beginning

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of the program, but really

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wasn

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t operating by middle and

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the end of of our cp in the in

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the previous years. We do

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believe in the importance of

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youth agency as a, as a good

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practice. Um, and see that as a

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role for um informing

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continuous quality improvement

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in the programming. All right.

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So the rcp, uh, the I mean, so

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the rfp, the request for

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proposals is, uh, is still

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live. Uh, we really encourage

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you to share this with your

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constituents and partner

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organizations in your areas.

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Um, a application is still open

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until JULY 15th. Um, at 2 P.M..

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Um, the. And this is, um, this

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process right now. So, um, as

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sort of again, we

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ve brought in

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sort of, sort of some of that

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referral administration and

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other team members to hold part

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of the work now in dhs. We have

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launched the rfp to identify

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the partners and confirm the

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partners for Cassidy going

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forward. We will have this

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transition and working closely

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with organizations that don

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t

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continue to provide the

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continuity of care this year as

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we work towards the final

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selection and the contracting

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process and the actual full

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transition to Cassidy, by the

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beginning of 2027. Uh, just

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really I think this might come

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from the presentation to to

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potential applicants. Again,

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the rfp focus is really looking

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at those organizations which

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can provide that navigation,

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that support the programming

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for the youth referred and

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their families. Um, and so

484
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again, if you look, if we think

485
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about this program, you have an

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we

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re having an incident that

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s

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happening somewhere in school

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or elsewhere. It, um, lands

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with the police. The police,

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since the prosecuting

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attorney

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s office. Um, and then

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they, at their discretion, will

496
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be referring, um, relevant and

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eligible youth to the program.

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Again, core services are just

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sort of listed out here. Um,

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these are all also, um, um, we

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had an evaluation of the

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program and see a lot of these

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aspects around basic needs. The

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importance of, um, conflict

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resolution and accountability,

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the importance of education and

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those support services. I want

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to say peer connection,

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mentorship. If you think of a

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young person in your life who

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might be 12, 13, 14, 16 years

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old and those peer connections

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and those positive, um,

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learning and safe, safe spaces,

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safe spaces are all part of of

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the programming which have, um,

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contributed to, um, both

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positive outcomes for those

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young people in their own youth

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development, um, as well as

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contributing factors towards

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prevention and longer term

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legal system involvement. And

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so these are the core services

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which are part of the rfp,

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which the organizations would

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be providing. And then we have,

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um, also explicitly stated

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within the rfp, the intended

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reporting, uh, data and

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outcomes. And so here we just

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look at, uh, really

533
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understanding numbers of youth

534
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served. Right. Caseload. Some

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of the, um, demographics which

536
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we often collect. And then

537
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we

538
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re, we

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re, um. Um,

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completion status. And when we

541
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talked about program completion

542
00:16:14,639 --> 00:16:16,507
earlier, we look at, you know,

543
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really having the data on did

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they complete partially

545
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complete withdrawal or

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terminated and why? Um, to

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understand their programming

548
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level of programming engagement.

549
00:16:30,530 --> 00:16:33,390
Here we have other thing, other

550
00:16:33,390 --> 00:16:34,392
aspects around, um, and this

551
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helps us understand, you know,

552
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what are the services that that

553
00:16:38,496 --> 00:16:38,695
are being provided? We do. We

554
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didn

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00:16:39,664 --> 00:16:40,597
t collect this at such a

556
00:16:40,597 --> 00:16:42,366
deep level, but it was really

557
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important for us to understand.

558
00:16:44,340 --> 00:16:45,303
We know, you know, I think it

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was I don

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t know, I

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ll have to

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00:16:47,738 --> 00:16:50,674
get the exact exact data, but

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it was very high percentages of

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young people in the program

565
00:16:54,778 --> 00:16:56,113
needed basic needs, aspects of

566
00:16:56,113 --> 00:16:57,848
basic needs. But I think that

567
00:16:57,848 --> 00:16:59,249
this, um, in our intention is

568
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really understanding what are

569
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the needs and what are the

570
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services being accessed by the

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00:17:04,588 --> 00:17:06,123
young people in the program?

572
00:17:06,123 --> 00:17:06,957
Um, the navigator will work

573
00:17:06,957 --> 00:17:07,725
with a young person, and I

574
00:17:07,725 --> 00:17:09,126
think, you know, that might

575
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that will differ. If the person

576
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is 17. Right. Getting ready to

577
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to hopefully graduate from high

578
00:17:13,230 --> 00:17:15,320
school or if or if the young

579
00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:16,466
person is 12, their action

580
00:17:16,466 --> 00:17:18,302
plans might look differently.

581
00:17:18,302 --> 00:17:19,903
Their discussion around

582
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consequences or accountability

583
00:17:20,838 --> 00:17:22,105
might look differently at

584
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different and their needs. But

585
00:17:22,306 --> 00:17:23,640
that

586
00:17:23,640 --> 00:17:24,642
s really the

587
00:17:24,642 --> 00:17:26,410
individualized sort of

588
00:17:26,410 --> 00:17:28,679
wraparound support that that we

589
00:17:28,679 --> 00:17:30,481
seek to provide with our

590
00:17:30,481 --> 00:17:32,783
partners. Um, this but

591
00:17:32,783 --> 00:17:33,985
understanding really, um, the

592
00:17:33,985 --> 00:17:35,619
services also helps us

593
00:17:35,619 --> 00:17:37,688
understand the situation that

594
00:17:37,688 --> 00:17:40,524
these young people are in and

595
00:17:40,524 --> 00:17:41,292
why often, um, often some of

596
00:17:41,292 --> 00:17:42,526
the reasons why they

597
00:17:42,526 --> 00:17:43,861
re in this

598
00:17:43,861 --> 00:17:44,610
program to begin with. And

599
00:17:44,610 --> 00:17:44,862
that

600
00:17:44,862 --> 00:17:47,640
s sort of part of

601
00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:49,990
understanding cause is not

602
00:17:49,990 --> 00:17:50,267
just, um, not just the impacts,

603
00:17:50,267 --> 00:17:52,690
but actually some of the causes

604
00:17:52,690 --> 00:17:53,470
of, of, of behaviors that which

605
00:17:53,470 --> 00:17:57,700
MAY lead to being referred to,

606
00:17:59,744 --> 00:18:02,145
to this program. Um, I think we

607
00:18:02,145 --> 00:18:03,147
want to look so here we look at

608
00:18:03,147 --> 00:18:04,414
the outcomes of sort of the

609
00:18:04,414 --> 00:18:06,814
immediate outcomes and longer

610
00:18:08,285 --> 00:18:09,720
term outcomes around, um, lower

611
00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:10,821
rates of referral. Many of

612
00:18:10,821 --> 00:18:12,222
these will be collecting

613
00:18:12,222 --> 00:18:13,557
ourselves, others, our

614
00:18:13,557 --> 00:18:14,491
continued work in partnership

615
00:18:14,491 --> 00:18:14,759
with the prosecuting attorney

616
00:18:14,759 --> 00:18:16,560
s

617
00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:17,995
office and other relevant

618
00:18:17,995 --> 00:18:19,995
institutions longer. But

619
00:18:20,164 --> 00:18:21,231
really, uh, looking at

620
00:18:21,231 --> 00:18:22,766
referrals, looking at school

621
00:18:22,766 --> 00:18:25,369
engagement as a big indicator

622
00:18:25,369 --> 00:18:28,739
for young people under the age

623
00:18:28,739 --> 00:18:30,808
of 18, um, as well as some of

624
00:18:30,808 --> 00:18:32,343
the longer term outcomes. I

625
00:18:32,343 --> 00:18:34,245
think this is important. And we

626
00:18:34,245 --> 00:18:34,745
included this in the rfp that,

627
00:18:34,745 --> 00:18:35,613
you know, this isn

628
00:18:35,613 --> 00:18:37,140
t just about

629
00:18:37,140 --> 00:18:38,515
the shorter term incomes, but

630
00:18:38,515 --> 00:18:42,715
really we want to look at this

631
00:18:43,554 --> 00:18:47,754
as part of our our approach to,

632
00:18:47,958 --> 00:18:50,358
um, to reducing, identifying,

633
00:18:50,961 --> 00:18:52,196
um, supporting and reducing,

634
00:18:52,196 --> 00:18:53,297
um, future legal system

635
00:18:53,297 --> 00:18:54,799
involvement of these young

636
00:18:54,799 --> 00:18:57,680
people. And I think of many of

637
00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:58,836
the programs that we do is this

638
00:18:58,836 --> 00:19:01,906
is a way for us. I kind of look

639
00:19:01,906 --> 00:19:03,840
at it as an early

640
00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:05,276
identification or early

641
00:19:05,276 --> 00:19:07,478
detection. Is this a young

642
00:19:07,478 --> 00:19:07,878
person in crisis? If you

643
00:19:07,878 --> 00:19:09,747
re at

644
00:19:09,747 --> 00:19:11,749
the age of 12 or 13, being

645
00:19:11,749 --> 00:19:13,117
referred to by law enforcement,

646
00:19:13,117 --> 00:19:13,451
to the prosecuting attorney

647
00:19:13,451 --> 00:19:15,185
s

648
00:19:15,185 --> 00:19:17,754
office, and are their root

649
00:19:17,754 --> 00:19:19,754
causes of homelessness,

650
00:19:20,390 --> 00:19:21,191
poverty, mental health needs,

651
00:19:21,191 --> 00:19:23,160
behavioral, you know, mental

652
00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:25,560
and behavioral health needs.

653
00:19:26,163 --> 00:19:27,264
Um, that we can provide the

654
00:19:27,264 --> 00:19:30,264
support to, to support that

655
00:19:31,802 --> 00:19:33,337
young person, um, to, uh, to

656
00:19:33,337 --> 00:19:35,439
overcome barriers, to be

657
00:19:35,439 --> 00:19:37,541
successful in school and to

658
00:19:37,541 --> 00:19:39,900
hopefully, um, not be involved

659
00:19:39,900 --> 00:19:43,209
in, in the legal system in the

660
00:19:44,415 --> 00:19:45,883
future. Uh, a little bit of our

661
00:19:45,883 --> 00:19:47,840
team. So Jennifer Hill is the

662
00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:47,952
one running the slide deck for

663
00:19:47,952 --> 00:19:49,820
me. And Jennifer has been

664
00:19:49,820 --> 00:19:51,540
working in County for decades,

665
00:19:51,540 --> 00:19:53,190
and in our education and

666
00:19:53,190 --> 00:19:55,260
employment resource team within

667
00:19:55,260 --> 00:19:56,293
dhs, so brings a wealth of

668
00:19:56,293 --> 00:19:57,662
knowledge and connection. And

669
00:19:57,662 --> 00:19:59,363
working with especially

670
00:19:59,363 --> 00:20:00,397
opportunity youth who have been

671
00:20:00,397 --> 00:20:03,734
out of school and out of work

672
00:20:03,734 --> 00:20:06,770
in 16 to 24, but not only, um,

673
00:20:06,770 --> 00:20:07,871
of the slide, um, um, Claudia,

674
00:20:07,871 --> 00:20:09,273
I just want to point out Jen

675
00:20:09,273 --> 00:20:09,440
has been with us with rcp, so

676
00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:10,541
she

677
00:20:10,541 --> 00:20:12,941
s transitioning and has

678
00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:14,945
been, um, um, understanding and

679
00:20:14,945 --> 00:20:16,614
and managing the program, um,

680
00:20:16,614 --> 00:20:18,282
since the beginning, almost.

681
00:20:18,282 --> 00:20:18,682
Um. Um, Claudia, we

682
00:20:18,682 --> 00:20:20,682
re really

683
00:20:20,751 --> 00:20:22,286
excited. Is our new referral

684
00:20:22,286 --> 00:20:23,954
administrator, uh, really

685
00:20:23,954 --> 00:20:24,188
excited to have her on board.

686
00:20:24,188 --> 00:20:26,188
Um, it

687
00:20:28,225 --> 00:20:29,460
s part of our 2627

688
00:20:29,460 --> 00:20:31,262
budget to sort of staff up our

689
00:20:31,262 --> 00:20:33,264
team. And she brings excellent

690
00:20:33,264 --> 00:20:34,198
experience working with, um,

691
00:20:34,198 --> 00:20:35,633
youth with legal system

692
00:20:35,633 --> 00:20:37,633
involvement in restorative

693
00:20:37,801 --> 00:20:39,300
justice and facilitation. And

694
00:20:39,300 --> 00:20:41,105
so she is able to have

695
00:20:41,105 --> 00:20:43,505
conversations. Um, you know,

696
00:20:44,141 --> 00:20:45,809
before referring and with young

697
00:20:45,809 --> 00:20:45,977
people and families. And so

698
00:20:45,977 --> 00:20:47,110
we

699
00:20:47,110 --> 00:20:48,245
re really, really excited to

700
00:20:48,245 --> 00:20:49,880
have her on the team. Um,

701
00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:51,448
Sumeet is also very, very new

702
00:20:51,448 --> 00:20:53,317
within our team. And that that

703
00:20:53,317 --> 00:20:55,686
adds contract manager is the

704
00:20:55,686 --> 00:20:57,488
importance of our, um, our work

705
00:20:57,488 --> 00:20:59,488
managing effectively the

706
00:21:00,491 --> 00:21:02,891
contracts. Um, and including,

707
00:21:03,293 --> 00:21:04,828
um, reporting. Um, and so that

708
00:21:04,828 --> 00:21:05,763
Ian and Sumeet together can

709
00:21:05,763 --> 00:21:07,298
support some of the

710
00:21:07,298 --> 00:21:07,698
coordination role that we

711
00:21:07,698 --> 00:21:09,698
re

712
00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:12,436
taking on in case. And then

713
00:21:12,436 --> 00:21:13,703
just briefly, I want to also

714
00:21:13,703 --> 00:21:16,507
take the opportunity to shout

715
00:21:16,507 --> 00:21:18,843
out, um, Leah and Vanessa from

716
00:21:18,843 --> 00:21:20,745
our evaluation team within dhs.

717
00:21:20,745 --> 00:21:22,746
Leah has been doing the job,

718
00:21:22,746 --> 00:21:24,115
um, during rcp as other duties

719
00:21:24,115 --> 00:21:24,448
as assigned. I don

720
00:21:24,448 --> 00:21:25,549
t know, we

721
00:21:25,549 --> 00:21:27,618
might all have that in our job

722
00:21:27,618 --> 00:21:29,520
description. Um, and so part of

723
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,388
our efforts to actually bring

724
00:21:31,388 --> 00:21:33,524
on a full time senior

725
00:21:33,524 --> 00:21:33,691
evaluator, um, with Vanessa. So

726
00:21:33,691 --> 00:21:34,225
we

727
00:21:34,225 --> 00:21:35,526
re sort of going through

728
00:21:35,526 --> 00:21:37,461
some transition right now. Leah

729
00:21:37,461 --> 00:21:39,529
has done a fantastic job. Um,

730
00:21:39,529 --> 00:21:40,598
along with what has not been

731
00:21:40,598 --> 00:21:40,764
the focus of her work, but it

732
00:21:40,764 --> 00:21:42,764
s

733
00:21:42,867 --> 00:21:43,670
been a lot of her time. Um, and

734
00:21:43,670 --> 00:21:45,670
so we

735
00:21:45,690 --> 00:21:46,504
re very excited that, um,

736
00:21:46,504 --> 00:21:48,472
Doctor Vanessa also comes to

737
00:21:48,472 --> 00:21:50,107
our team bringing very

738
00:21:50,107 --> 00:21:52,443
practical experience in mixed

739
00:21:52,443 --> 00:21:54,211
methods evaluation, uh,

740
00:21:54,211 --> 00:21:55,746
restorative justice youth. And

741
00:21:55,746 --> 00:21:57,414
so we feel really, really

742
00:21:57,414 --> 00:21:59,814
excited about the opportunity

743
00:21:59,850 --> 00:22:02,653
to continue to, um, learn and

744
00:22:02,653 --> 00:22:04,555
refine and and improve. Um,

745
00:22:04,555 --> 00:22:06,190
Cassidy, as we, as we work with

746
00:22:06,190 --> 00:22:07,691
this and then, um, some of our

747
00:22:07,691 --> 00:22:09,360
other team members. Um, Shelby

748
00:22:09,360 --> 00:22:10,327
oversees our, our evaluation

749
00:22:10,327 --> 00:22:11,795
for the entire children, youth

750
00:22:11,795 --> 00:22:13,764
and young adults division. Um,

751
00:22:13,764 --> 00:22:17,964
and we have our support in the

752
00:22:19,970 --> 00:22:21,338
rfp process. Nikki. And that

753
00:22:21,338 --> 00:22:22,306
was all I had for the

754
00:22:22,306 --> 00:22:23,707
presentation.

755
00:22:23,707 --> 00:22:25,543
Jen, thank you very much.

756
00:22:25,543 --> 00:22:27,144
Before we take questions, I

757
00:22:27,144 --> 00:22:29,346
want to make sure Angelica

758
00:22:29,346 --> 00:22:30,748
noticed that, uh, Mayor Pavone

759
00:22:30,748 --> 00:22:31,515
and Councilmember Robinson have

760
00:22:31,515 --> 00:22:32,650
joined us.

761
00:22:32,650 --> 00:22:34,118
Thank you. Yeah, I do have

762
00:22:34,118 --> 00:22:34,985
them. Thank you.

763
00:22:34,985 --> 00:22:36,520
Thank you very much. Thanks for

764
00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:37,587
Angelica. And thank you for

765
00:22:37,587 --> 00:22:39,390
your presentation and for

766
00:22:39,390 --> 00:22:40,691
introducing your staff and the

767
00:22:40,691 --> 00:22:42,359
the team you have built around

768
00:22:42,359 --> 00:22:43,661
you. I know my colleagues pay a

769
00:22:43,661 --> 00:22:46,664
lot of attention to this issue.

770
00:22:46,664 --> 00:22:48,310
Uh uh, my, uh, George Barron

771
00:22:48,310 --> 00:22:49,900
has been a leader in the

772
00:22:49,900 --> 00:22:51,635
private sector. And on this

773
00:22:51,635 --> 00:22:52,970
issue as well. Uh, any

774
00:22:52,970 --> 00:22:55,205
questions from my colleagues at

775
00:22:55,205 --> 00:22:57,341
this time? Just feel free to

776
00:22:57,341 --> 00:22:57,492
speak up or raise your hand.

777
00:22:57,492 --> 00:22:59,492
I

778
00:23:04,949 --> 00:23:07,840
ll try to catch it. Okay. I

779
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:07,418
think your report was all

780
00:23:07,418 --> 00:23:09,418
right.

781
00:23:10,287 --> 00:23:12,523
MR. Chair, you MAY not be able

782
00:23:12,523 --> 00:23:14,325
to see it on the screen, but,

783
00:23:14,325 --> 00:23:16,270
uh, Council Arnold and

784
00:23:16,270 --> 00:23:18,195
Councilmember Baron also have

785
00:23:18,195 --> 00:23:18,663
their hand up. In addition to

786
00:23:18,663 --> 00:23:19,897
me.

787
00:23:19,897 --> 00:23:21,198
I could not see it. Thank you

788
00:23:21,198 --> 00:23:22,566
for asking. Uh. Thank you. Do

789
00:23:22,566 --> 00:23:25,566
you want to speak first?

790
00:23:25,636 --> 00:23:28,105
Thank you, MR. Chair. And, Jen,

791
00:23:28,105 --> 00:23:30,400
thank you for the presentation.

792
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,676
And thank you for the

793
00:23:32,676 --> 00:23:35,676
thoughtful ways that, uh, there

794
00:23:36,180 --> 00:23:38,382
have been some changes being

795
00:23:38,382 --> 00:23:41,151
reflected in this. I do have a

796
00:23:41,151 --> 00:23:42,319
few questions, though. Um,

797
00:23:42,319 --> 00:23:43,254
Mister chair, do you mind if I

798
00:23:43,254 --> 00:23:45,389
ask them all, or do you want me

799
00:23:45,389 --> 00:23:48,726
to ask one? Okay. Thank you. So

800
00:23:48,726 --> 00:23:49,727
the first one on your 2025

801
00:23:49,727 --> 00:23:52,127
total youth and community

802
00:23:53,564 --> 00:23:55,564
members served, 522. Youth

803
00:23:57,568 --> 00:23:59,968
served 290. Exited services. So

804
00:24:00,938 --> 00:24:02,539
that leaves 232. Should we

805
00:24:02,539 --> 00:24:04,541
assume that they are still

806
00:24:04,541 --> 00:24:04,741
receiving services or we don

807
00:24:04,741 --> 00:24:06,741
t

808
00:24:07,211 --> 00:24:09,611
have status for them?

809
00:24:10,180 --> 00:24:10,447
Yep. Um, they you can assume

810
00:24:10,447 --> 00:24:11,181
that they

811
00:24:11,181 --> 00:24:13,181
re still receiving

812
00:24:13,350 --> 00:24:15,750
receiving services. The average

813
00:24:16,153 --> 00:24:19,753
time of service is nine months.

814
00:24:20,891 --> 00:24:22,660
Okay. And so could that also

815
00:24:22,660 --> 00:24:25,660
include some? Because I know

816
00:24:25,930 --> 00:24:28,399
before if there were some youth

817
00:24:28,399 --> 00:24:30,234
that had kind of fallen through

818
00:24:30,234 --> 00:24:31,735
the cracks at one of the

819
00:24:31,735 --> 00:24:32,360
organizations and the

820
00:24:32,360 --> 00:24:33,137
prosecutor

821
00:24:33,137 --> 00:24:33,871
s office wasn

822
00:24:33,871 --> 00:24:35,406
t

823
00:24:35,406 --> 00:24:37,806
following because they had

824
00:24:38,609 --> 00:24:42,209
referred them to one of the,

825
00:24:42,246 --> 00:24:45,246
uh, one of the community

826
00:24:45,716 --> 00:24:47,318
organizations. There was no

827
00:24:47,318 --> 00:24:49,530
there was no idea, really, of

828
00:24:49,530 --> 00:24:50,421
what had occurred, what was

829
00:24:50,421 --> 00:24:52,189
what the status were of some of

830
00:24:52,189 --> 00:24:52,556
the young people. So I

831
00:24:52,556 --> 00:24:54,580
m just

832
00:24:54,580 --> 00:24:57,580
wanting to make sure that

833
00:24:58,195 --> 00:24:59,730
moving forward, we know what

834
00:24:59,730 --> 00:25:01,231
the status is of those youth.

835
00:25:01,231 --> 00:25:04,368
Like. Has it been six months

836
00:25:04,368 --> 00:25:05,569
since a check in? Um, are we

837
00:25:05,569 --> 00:25:06,604
trying to get back in touch

838
00:25:06,604 --> 00:25:06,804
with them? Because I think

839
00:25:06,804 --> 00:25:08,472
that

840
00:25:08,472 --> 00:25:10,872
s critical, obviously, to

841
00:25:11,442 --> 00:25:14,442
the success. So wanting to

842
00:25:18,716 --> 00:25:22,316
point that out. Um, also. So

843
00:25:22,419 --> 00:25:24,154
with the rfp and I, I

844
00:25:24,154 --> 00:25:26,223
appreciate that as well. But

845
00:25:26,223 --> 00:25:30,361
given that I have two of the

846
00:25:30,361 --> 00:25:33,361
most impacted zip codes, has

847
00:25:33,530 --> 00:25:34,832
there been any end and all five

848
00:25:34,832 --> 00:25:37,234
of them are in South King

849
00:25:37,234 --> 00:25:40,234
County? Has there been any

850
00:25:40,804 --> 00:25:43,804
outreach to South King County?

851
00:25:45,410 --> 00:25:48,612
Uh, for this rfp or to work

852
00:25:48,612 --> 00:25:52,212
with us to ensure the success

853
00:25:53,170 --> 00:25:54,510
moving forward?

854
00:25:54,510 --> 00:25:57,651
Jennifer, do you want to speak

855
00:25:57,688 --> 00:26:01,288
a little bit to the outreach?

856
00:26:01,392 --> 00:26:04,428
Yeah. So we have been sharing

857
00:26:04,428 --> 00:26:06,363
the rfp with as many community

858
00:26:06,363 --> 00:26:08,363
providers and community

859
00:26:08,999 --> 00:26:10,601
organizations that we can get

860
00:26:10,601 --> 00:26:12,369
in front of, including the

861
00:26:12,369 --> 00:26:14,638
South King County Council. Um,

862
00:26:14,638 --> 00:26:17,380
Alliance for Human Services.

863
00:26:17,374 --> 00:26:18,642
Um, and making sure I mean, we

864
00:26:18,642 --> 00:26:20,477
would love for you all to also

865
00:26:20,477 --> 00:26:22,279
share that with any providers

866
00:26:22,279 --> 00:26:23,147
that you have. Um, we

867
00:26:23,147 --> 00:26:25,147
re doing

868
00:26:26,317 --> 00:26:28,717
a bitters conference tomorrow,

869
00:26:28,719 --> 00:26:30,988
and have still a month left

870
00:26:30,988 --> 00:26:32,623
before the rfp is due. So want

871
00:26:32,623 --> 00:26:34,825
to just make sure that that is

872
00:26:34,825 --> 00:26:35,826
out in the community as much as

873
00:26:35,826 --> 00:26:37,361
possible?

874
00:26:37,361 --> 00:26:39,496
Yes. And mayor Mayor Baucus, we

875
00:26:39,496 --> 00:26:41,465
would welcome any, any venue or

876
00:26:41,465 --> 00:26:42,833
any additional outreach that we

877
00:26:42,833 --> 00:26:44,268
can do together with you. We

878
00:26:44,268 --> 00:26:46,668
would absolutely welcome that.

879
00:26:46,937 --> 00:26:47,204
That was really my point is.

880
00:26:47,204 --> 00:26:47,505
Where we

881
00:26:47,505 --> 00:26:48,138
re we

882
00:26:48,138 --> 00:26:48,339
re happy to do

883
00:26:48,339 --> 00:26:50,339
that.

884
00:26:50,474 --> 00:26:51,809
There has been, to the best of

885
00:26:51,809 --> 00:26:54,245
my knowledge, there has been no

886
00:26:54,245 --> 00:26:56,645
outreach to government, to

887
00:26:58,115 --> 00:26:59,984
government in this. Um, my

888
00:26:59,984 --> 00:27:02,384
fellow mayors, Mayor Pavone,

889
00:27:02,553 --> 00:27:04,421
Mayor Ralph and Mayor Farrell,

890
00:27:04,421 --> 00:27:06,490
um, three of three of us are on

891
00:27:06,490 --> 00:27:09,590
our pc. Uh, Mayor Farrell is

892
00:27:09,590 --> 00:27:09,360
not. But, uh, as you

893
00:27:09,360 --> 00:27:10,661
re

894
00:27:10,661 --> 00:27:13,330
probably aware, we were very

895
00:27:13,330 --> 00:27:15,232
vocal when we first started.

896
00:27:15,232 --> 00:27:15,599
Uh, and very critical. I don

897
00:27:15,599 --> 00:27:17,599
t

898
00:27:17,701 --> 00:27:19,570
want to be critical. I want to

899
00:27:19,570 --> 00:27:22,172
be able to shout the successes

900
00:27:22,172 --> 00:27:25,772
of this program from the roof

901
00:27:25,910 --> 00:27:29,460
of of of City Hall and be able

902
00:27:29,460 --> 00:27:29,214
to celebrate them. I just don

903
00:27:29,214 --> 00:27:30,581
t

904
00:27:30,581 --> 00:27:34,551
want us to get off on the wrong

905
00:27:34,551 --> 00:27:38,550
foot. Uh, of not having open

906
00:27:38,550 --> 00:27:40,157
communication. So I would think

907
00:27:40,157 --> 00:27:43,270
that there would be there would

908
00:27:43,270 --> 00:27:43,761
have been or could be outreach

909
00:27:43,761 --> 00:27:44,628
to the mayor

910
00:27:44,628 --> 00:27:45,763
s in South King

911
00:27:45,763 --> 00:27:49,363
County, since we are the most

912
00:27:49,634 --> 00:27:52,202
impacted zip codes. And then.

913
00:27:52,202 --> 00:27:53,737
I hear you, I hear you, and I,

914
00:27:53,737 --> 00:27:54,506
I look forward to connecting

915
00:27:54,506 --> 00:27:56,506
after this meeting.

916
00:27:56,941 --> 00:27:59,430
Great. Thank you. And then just

917
00:27:59,430 --> 00:28:01,443
wanting to make sure

918
00:28:01,579 --> 00:28:04,810
accountability as, uh, as we

919
00:28:04,810 --> 00:28:07,170
have stated in the past, is

920
00:28:07,170 --> 00:28:09,754
critical to this. Um, and there

921
00:28:09,754 --> 00:28:11,322
were concerns in the past about

922
00:28:11,322 --> 00:28:13,791
not knowing the status of the

923
00:28:13,791 --> 00:28:14,892
young people involved. Uh, had

924
00:28:14,892 --> 00:28:17,940
they fallen through the cracks,

925
00:28:17,940 --> 00:28:18,963
was there any outreach at all?

926
00:28:18,963 --> 00:28:20,998
So just wanting to make sure

927
00:28:20,998 --> 00:28:23,398
that there is that

928
00:28:23,867 --> 00:28:25,269
accountability. And then in the

929
00:28:25,269 --> 00:28:25,636
reporting data, I don

930
00:28:25,636 --> 00:28:26,971
t know

931
00:28:26,971 --> 00:28:28,472
that I saw anything about

932
00:28:28,472 --> 00:28:30,207
recidivism rates. That was one

933
00:28:30,207 --> 00:28:32,409
of the things that we were

934
00:28:32,409 --> 00:28:34,780
asking for for data in the past

935
00:28:34,780 --> 00:28:36,213
in South King County, along

936
00:28:36,213 --> 00:28:38,549
with the items that are listed

937
00:28:38,549 --> 00:28:38,749
in your presentation. But I

938
00:28:38,749 --> 00:28:39,550
didn

939
00:28:39,550 --> 00:28:41,318
t see anything about

940
00:28:41,318 --> 00:28:42,219
recidivism rates. And I would I

941
00:28:42,219 --> 00:28:44,210
would think that that would be

942
00:28:44,210 --> 00:28:48,221
a really good measure for us to

943
00:28:48,325 --> 00:28:51,925
be able to tout successes on.

944
00:28:52,363 --> 00:28:53,931
It is, um, it does take time to

945
00:28:53,931 --> 00:28:54,932
be able to understand and and

946
00:28:54,932 --> 00:28:56,500
understand whether a young

947
00:28:56,500 --> 00:28:58,168
person it is absolutely

948
00:28:58,168 --> 00:28:59,870
critical for us to work

949
00:28:59,870 --> 00:29:01,472
together with the now in the

950
00:29:01,472 --> 00:29:03,730
future and to continue. We want

951
00:29:03,730 --> 00:29:04,476
to understand the impact and

952
00:29:04,476 --> 00:29:04,642
whether this program works like

953
00:29:04,642 --> 00:29:06,430
we

954
00:29:06,430 --> 00:29:07,378
re like, right? Like we we

955
00:29:07,378 --> 00:29:08,812
know that the young people are

956
00:29:08,812 --> 00:29:09,914
benefiting from the services

957
00:29:09,914 --> 00:29:11,415
and we want to know, does it

958
00:29:11,415 --> 00:29:12,650
have the impact in terms of

959
00:29:12,650 --> 00:29:13,684
legal system reduction, legal

960
00:29:13,684 --> 00:29:13,842
system involvement? And it

961
00:29:13,842 --> 00:29:14,718
s

962
00:29:14,718 --> 00:29:14,885
going to take time, and we

963
00:29:14,885 --> 00:29:15,886
re

964
00:29:15,886 --> 00:29:17,154
going to need the resources and

965
00:29:17,154 --> 00:29:19,156
the time to be able to follow

966
00:29:19,156 --> 00:29:19,423
that. Um, so it just wasn

967
00:29:19,423 --> 00:29:20,991
t

968
00:29:20,991 --> 00:29:22,393
there in terms of we will not

969
00:29:22,393 --> 00:29:24,762
within the rfp, within the

970
00:29:24,762 --> 00:29:26,664
start of 2027 to 2020, you

971
00:29:26,664 --> 00:29:30,264
know, the at the end of 2027.

972
00:29:30,467 --> 00:29:33,804
Um, be know the be able to, um,

973
00:29:33,804 --> 00:29:36,373
define and and um, evaluate

974
00:29:36,373 --> 00:29:38,800
recidivism. And I absolutely

975
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:39,310
agree and we understand. And in

976
00:29:39,310 --> 00:29:40,611
order for us to understand the

977
00:29:40,611 --> 00:29:41,979
efficacy of this program, we

978
00:29:41,979 --> 00:29:42,913
actually will need to do that

979
00:29:42,913 --> 00:29:43,213
over time, because that

980
00:29:43,213 --> 00:29:44,248
s all

981
00:29:44,248 --> 00:29:45,883
of our interest. Right? We want

982
00:29:45,883 --> 00:29:46,951
to know, is it working? Is it

983
00:29:46,951 --> 00:29:47,318
working? I mean, that

984
00:29:47,318 --> 00:29:47,535
s that

985
00:29:47,535 --> 00:29:47,712
s

986
00:29:47,712 --> 00:29:49,353
what we

987
00:29:49,353 --> 00:29:49,520
re here for. And if and

988
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:50,654
it

989
00:29:50,654 --> 00:29:52,790
s really about understanding

990
00:29:52,790 --> 00:29:54,291
the strategy and the and the

991
00:29:54,291 --> 00:29:56,193
programming and is it having

992
00:29:56,193 --> 00:29:58,896
the impact that we, that we,

993
00:29:58,896 --> 00:30:01,131
that we want it to. So yeah.

994
00:30:01,131 --> 00:30:02,900
Okay. Thank you. So so youth

995
00:30:02,900 --> 00:30:05,736
that were involved prior to

996
00:30:05,736 --> 00:30:07,738
2025, are we collecting any

997
00:30:07,738 --> 00:30:11,476
data on them or are we just

998
00:30:11,476 --> 00:30:12,610
moving forward from 2025.

999
00:30:12,610 --> 00:30:14,778
Sorry. Yes we have been

1000
00:30:14,778 --> 00:30:17,848
collecting. Oh, so we have we

1001
00:30:17,848 --> 00:30:19,350
have um, and maybe the pow pow.

1002
00:30:19,350 --> 00:30:21,151
You MAY maybe want to stick to

1003
00:30:21,151 --> 00:30:23,200
this. We have been. We are not

1004
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:25,690
right now doing a new

1005
00:30:25,690 --> 00:30:26,690
recidivism study. There was a

1006
00:30:26,690 --> 00:30:27,291
report issued by the

1007
00:30:27,291 --> 00:30:27,825
prosecuting attorney

1008
00:30:27,825 --> 00:30:29,660
s office

1009
00:30:29,660 --> 00:30:31,495
last year. Um, and then we had

1010
00:30:31,495 --> 00:30:33,300
our program evaluation. The

1011
00:30:33,300 --> 00:30:35,432
recidivism was not part of that

1012
00:30:35,432 --> 00:30:37,434
program evaluation. Um, last

1013
00:30:37,434 --> 00:30:40,137
year, uh, the pow did their,

1014
00:30:40,137 --> 00:30:40,404
uh, did their study. Um, and I,

1015
00:30:40,404 --> 00:30:41,538
we haven

1016
00:30:41,538 --> 00:30:43,941
t gotten to the point

1017
00:30:43,941 --> 00:30:45,576
of what is the recidivism, uh,

1018
00:30:45,576 --> 00:30:47,478
longer term recidivism

1019
00:30:47,478 --> 00:30:49,780
evaluation for the programming.

1020
00:30:49,780 --> 00:30:51,150
But we we want that to we want

1021
00:30:51,150 --> 00:30:52,549
that, too, because that tells

1022
00:30:52,549 --> 00:30:53,984
us, is it working or not?

1023
00:30:53,984 --> 00:30:54,685
Thank you. Thank you, MR.

1024
00:30:54,685 --> 00:30:56,153
Chair.

1025
00:30:56,153 --> 00:30:57,588
Thank you. Councilmember

1026
00:30:57,588 --> 00:30:59,588
Verona. Then Councilmember

1027
00:31:00,591 --> 00:31:01,993
Arnold, I think Councilmember.

1028
00:31:01,993 --> 00:31:02,192
Arnold had his hand at first,

1029
00:31:02,192 --> 00:31:03,600
so I

1030
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,563
ll defer to him if he

1031
00:31:06,563 --> 00:31:08,963
wants to go next.

1032
00:31:09,333 --> 00:31:10,834
Thank you. Councilmember Baron.

1033
00:31:10,834 --> 00:31:12,603
Um, just building on what Mayor

1034
00:31:12,603 --> 00:31:14,538
Bacchus is talking about. The

1035
00:31:14,538 --> 00:31:16,407
the metrics that you mentioned

1036
00:31:16,407 --> 00:31:17,676
on slide 16 and the outcomes

1037
00:31:17,676 --> 00:31:20,676
you mentioned on slide 18 are

1038
00:31:21,790 --> 00:31:22,313
really important for both

1039
00:31:22,313 --> 00:31:24,181
celebrating the success of this

1040
00:31:24,181 --> 00:31:26,984
program and the the idea of

1041
00:31:26,984 --> 00:31:29,384
continual improvement. Um, how

1042
00:31:30,220 --> 00:31:32,890
for those metrics, how often

1043
00:31:32,890 --> 00:31:33,490
are they reported? Do you have

1044
00:31:33,490 --> 00:31:35,759
a dashboard or anything like

1045
00:31:35,759 --> 00:31:38,997
that that we get to see, um,

1046
00:31:38,997 --> 00:31:41,997
the status of the program?

1047
00:31:42,967 --> 00:31:46,567
Yep. We have been reporting on

1048
00:31:46,905 --> 00:31:49,305
a quarterly. So every

1049
00:31:50,674 --> 00:31:52,674
contracted organization uploads

1050
00:31:53,777 --> 00:31:55,480
data on a quarterly basis. And

1051
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:56,680
we do have our. Can you remind

1052
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,148
me if we have the rcp on the

1053
00:31:58,148 --> 00:31:59,316
dashboard and the data reports.

1054
00:31:59,316 --> 00:32:03,516
Right. I think we did that last

1055
00:32:03,821 --> 00:32:04,922
year as part of the diversion

1056
00:32:04,922 --> 00:32:05,590
dashboard.

1057
00:32:05,590 --> 00:32:06,490
Yeah, they

1058
00:32:06,490 --> 00:32:06,725
re all on the

1059
00:32:06,725 --> 00:32:08,725
county

1060
00:32:09,226 --> 00:32:10,795
s website. We can share

1061
00:32:10,795 --> 00:32:12,463
a link. And the county also

1062
00:32:12,463 --> 00:32:13,465
does have a legal system

1063
00:32:13,465 --> 00:32:14,465
dashboard that

1064
00:32:14,465 --> 00:32:16,400
s on the county

1065
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:16,900
public facing website.

1066
00:32:16,900 --> 00:32:18,235
Yeah, that

1067
00:32:18,235 --> 00:32:20,471
d be great. Great to

1068
00:32:20,471 --> 00:32:22,871
look those and especially

1069
00:32:23,707 --> 00:32:25,142
understand for, um, people that

1070
00:32:25,142 --> 00:32:26,343
exited the program without

1071
00:32:26,343 --> 00:32:27,711
completing the program. One of

1072
00:32:27,711 --> 00:32:29,680
the reasons. So we can address

1073
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,283
those. And then again, to back

1074
00:32:32,283 --> 00:32:34,419
at this point the um,

1075
00:32:34,419 --> 00:32:35,719
recidivism rates, um, over

1076
00:32:35,719 --> 00:32:37,550
time, we, we get that

1077
00:32:37,550 --> 00:32:38,123
information for our community

1078
00:32:38,123 --> 00:32:39,624
courts. It would be great to

1079
00:32:39,624 --> 00:32:42,126
have information for the youth

1080
00:32:42,126 --> 00:32:45,230
as well, or for this diversion.

1081
00:32:45,230 --> 00:32:47,640
Thank you.

1082
00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:48,866
Councilmember Baron.

1083
00:32:48,866 --> 00:32:50,367
Thank you. Chair, I appreciate

1084
00:32:50,367 --> 00:32:52,690
the questions. Uh, thanks to

1085
00:32:52,690 --> 00:32:55,600
the dhs team for the

1086
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,808
presentation. Um, I wanted to

1087
00:32:57,808 --> 00:32:57,961
ask, uh, two questions, and

1088
00:32:57,961 --> 00:32:59,543
I

1089
00:32:59,543 --> 00:33:01,780
ll just lay them both out.

1090
00:33:01,780 --> 00:33:03,347
Um, and then for, for folks to

1091
00:33:03,347 --> 00:33:04,615
respond. The first is, uh,

1092
00:33:04,615 --> 00:33:05,749
could you give us a sense of

1093
00:33:05,749 --> 00:33:08,860
the status of, like, the

1094
00:33:08,860 --> 00:33:09,687
current program and kind of the

1095
00:33:09,687 --> 00:33:11,210
transition plan a little bit? I

1096
00:33:11,210 --> 00:33:11,388
think this is related to to

1097
00:33:11,388 --> 00:33:12,856
Mayor Rebecca

1098
00:33:12,856 --> 00:33:14,291
s question, like,

1099
00:33:14,291 --> 00:33:15,693
what are we going to. So, so I

1100
00:33:15,693 --> 00:33:17,628
understand the rfp is is issued

1101
00:33:17,628 --> 00:33:19,630
right now. Uh, the program is

1102
00:33:19,630 --> 00:33:22,630
operating, I think, under rcp

1103
00:33:23,802 --> 00:33:25,169
in 26. And what type of

1104
00:33:25,169 --> 00:33:27,138
transition the contracts are

1105
00:33:27,138 --> 00:33:27,939
going to start in 27. Can you

1106
00:33:27,939 --> 00:33:29,700
talk a little bit about the

1107
00:33:29,700 --> 00:33:29,974
transition??? What happened to

1108
00:33:29,974 --> 00:33:31,375
the youth who are in the

1109
00:33:31,375 --> 00:33:32,811
program? How is that transition

1110
00:33:32,811 --> 00:33:33,978
going to be managed? And then

1111
00:33:33,978 --> 00:33:35,380
my second question, I

1112
00:33:35,380 --> 00:33:36,814
appreciated the questions that

1113
00:33:36,814 --> 00:33:37,948
have been asked by both

1114
00:33:37,948 --> 00:33:40,840
Councilmember Arnold and Mayor

1115
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:41,151
Backus on the recidivism. Um, I

1116
00:33:41,151 --> 00:33:41,720
did see that there was

1117
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:42,319
reference. There

1118
00:33:42,319 --> 00:33:43,655
s a report

1119
00:33:43,655 --> 00:33:44,756
that I that actually dhs

1120
00:33:44,756 --> 00:33:46,890
prepared for the council, which

1121
00:33:46,890 --> 00:33:47,992
is public, um, that, that that

1122
00:33:47,992 --> 00:33:49,560
MAY be of interest to, to

1123
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:50,894
members of the committee. Uh,

1124
00:33:50,894 --> 00:33:52,396
it does talk about lower rates

1125
00:33:52,396 --> 00:33:53,597
of new referrals or arrests.

1126
00:33:53,597 --> 00:33:54,798
And I know the presentation

1127
00:33:54,798 --> 00:33:57,201
there was a reference about,

1128
00:33:57,201 --> 00:33:58,168
you know, uh, uh, that one of

1129
00:33:58,168 --> 00:34:00,571
the outcomes that we want to

1130
00:34:00,571 --> 00:34:02,406
see is, uh, less involvement in

1131
00:34:02,406 --> 00:34:03,740
the future. Uh, but I just want

1132
00:34:03,740 --> 00:34:03,274
to understand, like, who

1133
00:34:03,274 --> 00:34:04,842
s

1134
00:34:04,842 --> 00:34:05,643
going to be doing that analysis

1135
00:34:05,643 --> 00:34:07,770
because I think one of the

1136
00:34:07,770 --> 00:34:08,479
questions that I think, Jen, I

1137
00:34:08,479 --> 00:34:09,313
think you mentioned the the

1138
00:34:09,313 --> 00:34:11,382
there was the I think the

1139
00:34:11,382 --> 00:34:13,384
impact justice report last

1140
00:34:13,384 --> 00:34:14,752
fall, and then there was the pa

1141
00:34:14,752 --> 00:34:15,753
had a report and we were

1142
00:34:15,753 --> 00:34:17,154
getting kind of like different

1143
00:34:17,154 --> 00:34:18,589
sets of numbers. And people are

1144
00:34:18,589 --> 00:34:20,900
like looking at things

1145
00:34:20,900 --> 00:34:22,920
differently. And I guess I

1146
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:22,259
would just both comment and say

1147
00:34:22,259 --> 00:34:23,628
it

1148
00:34:23,628 --> 00:34:25,663
d be really good. As we

1149
00:34:25,663 --> 00:34:27,164
launch this new version of this

1150
00:34:27,164 --> 00:34:29,533
program or this new program,

1151
00:34:29,533 --> 00:34:31,100
this new initiative, to really

1152
00:34:31,100 --> 00:34:32,436
think through ahead of time,

1153
00:34:32,436 --> 00:34:33,537
like what? How are we going to

1154
00:34:33,537 --> 00:34:34,438
tracking? What are we, what are

1155
00:34:34,438 --> 00:34:35,906
we, what are we consider

1156
00:34:35,906 --> 00:34:36,607
recidivism, right. Like what is

1157
00:34:36,607 --> 00:34:36,974
the time period we

1158
00:34:36,974 --> 00:34:38,776
re going to

1159
00:34:38,776 --> 00:34:39,778
be looking back on? And I guess

1160
00:34:39,778 --> 00:34:41,345
I would just say I also

1161
00:34:41,345 --> 00:34:43,130
encourage people to for us to

1162
00:34:43,130 --> 00:34:45,816
have this been kind of like an

1163
00:34:45,816 --> 00:34:46,650
ongoing effort. Uh, and I the

1164
00:34:46,650 --> 00:34:47,718
question that Councilmember

1165
00:34:47,718 --> 00:34:49,718
Arnold mentioned about

1166
00:34:50,255 --> 00:34:51,655
reporting, you know, because I

1167
00:34:51,655 --> 00:34:52,790
realize that for recidivism,

1168
00:34:52,790 --> 00:34:53,959
like we need some track record,

1169
00:34:53,959 --> 00:34:55,926
it takes time to get developed.

1170
00:34:55,926 --> 00:34:56,595
I get that point. But I also

1171
00:34:56,595 --> 00:34:56,760
want to make sure that we

1172
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,496
re

1173
00:34:58,496 --> 00:35:01,496
collecting the information in a,

1174
00:35:01,732 --> 00:35:03,100
in a consistent way, and that

1175
00:35:03,100 --> 00:35:04,668
we all kind of have some

1176
00:35:04,668 --> 00:35:05,736
agreement on what those what

1177
00:35:05,736 --> 00:35:06,738
those metrics are going to be,

1178
00:35:06,738 --> 00:35:07,839
rather than trying to figure

1179
00:35:07,839 --> 00:35:08,872
out at the back end, which

1180
00:35:08,872 --> 00:35:10,507
might make it complicated to

1181
00:35:10,507 --> 00:35:10,842
actually track that data. So I

1182
00:35:10,842 --> 00:35:12,142
know that

1183
00:35:12,142 --> 00:35:13,344
s a lot, but I just

1184
00:35:13,344 --> 00:35:13,611
want to lay it all out so that

1185
00:35:13,611 --> 00:35:14,712
you don

1186
00:35:14,712 --> 00:35:17,712
t hear from me again.

1187
00:35:18,983 --> 00:35:20,919
Thank you.

1188
00:35:20,919 --> 00:35:21,952
Yes. Thank you. Um, let me

1189
00:35:21,952 --> 00:35:23,221
speak a little bit to the

1190
00:35:23,221 --> 00:35:24,880
transition. And then, Jennifer,

1191
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:24,252
if you want to add in, if I

1192
00:35:24,252 --> 00:35:26,252
m

1193
00:35:26,991 --> 00:35:28,192
missing anything, uh, the first

1194
00:35:28,192 --> 00:35:29,940
word that came to my mind when

1195
00:35:29,940 --> 00:35:29,265
you were asking me, I was like,

1196
00:35:29,265 --> 00:35:30,527
we

1197
00:35:30,527 --> 00:35:31,662
re kind of hybrid right now

1198
00:35:31,662 --> 00:35:32,970
because we are we

1199
00:35:32,970 --> 00:35:33,630
ve we

1200
00:35:33,630 --> 00:35:34,999
ve we

1201
00:35:34,999 --> 00:35:37,399
have brought in-house the

1202
00:35:38,690 --> 00:35:38,269
referral administration. Um, so

1203
00:35:38,269 --> 00:35:39,237
that

1204
00:35:39,237 --> 00:35:40,705
s sort of changed a little

1205
00:35:40,705 --> 00:35:41,906
bit. The operations, uh,

1206
00:35:41,906 --> 00:35:44,306
working directly with that

1207
00:35:44,575 --> 00:35:46,745
towards, um, in, in, in, um,

1208
00:35:46,745 --> 00:35:48,647
you know, getting the, um,

1209
00:35:48,647 --> 00:35:50,647
referrals, understanding those,

1210
00:35:50,648 --> 00:35:51,815
having that conversation, our,

1211
00:35:51,815 --> 00:35:52,950
our staff member has that

1212
00:35:52,950 --> 00:35:53,951
conversation and then they get

1213
00:35:53,951 --> 00:35:54,586
referred. So that

1214
00:35:54,586 --> 00:35:56,586
s already a

1215
00:35:56,587 --> 00:35:56,855
little bit of in between.

1216
00:35:56,855 --> 00:35:57,354
Right. It

1217
00:35:57,354 --> 00:35:57,589
s a little bit it

1218
00:35:57,589 --> 00:35:59,589
s a

1219
00:36:00,225 --> 00:36:02,127
little bit different. Um, and

1220
00:36:02,127 --> 00:36:02,827
then we have planned and and

1221
00:36:02,827 --> 00:36:03,661
it, it, it, it

1222
00:36:03,661 --> 00:36:06,610
s a little bit

1223
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,696
better laid out in the report

1224
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:11,669
this um, um, over overlapping

1225
00:36:11,669 --> 00:36:13,638
of time so that rcp

1226
00:36:13,638 --> 00:36:15,638
organizations will continue.

1227
00:36:15,974 --> 00:36:18,109
Um, and we have, I think, 1 to

1228
00:36:18,109 --> 00:36:19,510
3 months of overlap with Csea

1229
00:36:19,510 --> 00:36:21,345
selected organizations so that

1230
00:36:21,345 --> 00:36:23,314
we can actually look at the

1231
00:36:23,314 --> 00:36:25,382
warm handoff. So that was one

1232
00:36:25,382 --> 00:36:25,717
of, um, the large concerns,

1233
00:36:25,717 --> 00:36:26,917
like we don

1234
00:36:26,917 --> 00:36:27,110
t want to we don

1235
00:36:27,110 --> 00:36:29,110
t

1236
00:36:29,821 --> 00:36:31,222
want to disrupt services for a

1237
00:36:31,222 --> 00:36:32,289
young person. And so being

1238
00:36:32,289 --> 00:36:32,890
really thoughtful in terms of

1239
00:36:32,890 --> 00:36:33,525
how we we don

1240
00:36:33,525 --> 00:36:34,292
t know whether

1241
00:36:34,292 --> 00:36:35,794
there might be some

1242
00:36:35,794 --> 00:36:36,161
organizations that continue and

1243
00:36:36,161 --> 00:36:36,627
whether there

1244
00:36:36,627 --> 00:36:37,596
s newer. We

1245
00:36:37,596 --> 00:36:38,697
already know that there likely

1246
00:36:38,697 --> 00:36:39,730
will be some organizations

1247
00:36:39,730 --> 00:36:41,899
because the landscape is

1248
00:36:41,899 --> 00:36:43,668
changing, um, all the time in

1249
00:36:43,668 --> 00:36:45,668
terms of organizations

1250
00:36:45,870 --> 00:36:47,471
continuing and discontinuing.

1251
00:36:47,471 --> 00:36:47,838
So, um, the landscape will

1252
00:36:47,838 --> 00:36:49,390
change. There

1253
00:36:49,390 --> 00:36:50,342
s there are some

1254
00:36:50,342 --> 00:36:51,109
organizations which MAY be

1255
00:36:51,109 --> 00:36:51,509
continuing and there

1256
00:36:51,509 --> 00:36:53,110
s likely

1257
00:36:53,110 --> 00:36:55,146
be new ones. And so we have to

1258
00:36:55,146 --> 00:36:56,715
work together and, and very

1259
00:36:56,715 --> 00:36:57,148
intentionally, um, it

1260
00:36:57,148 --> 00:36:59,116
s great

1261
00:36:59,116 --> 00:37:00,184
that we have the program team

1262
00:37:00,184 --> 00:37:01,352
as well as the referral

1263
00:37:01,352 --> 00:37:03,687
administrator who has been

1264
00:37:03,687 --> 00:37:05,257
developing relationships, you

1265
00:37:05,257 --> 00:37:06,491
know, with the current

1266
00:37:06,491 --> 00:37:07,959
organization so that we can

1267
00:37:07,959 --> 00:37:08,660
understand. And it can also

1268
00:37:08,660 --> 00:37:09,494
look at how we

1269
00:37:09,494 --> 00:37:11,161
re referring

1270
00:37:11,161 --> 00:37:12,464
young people, as we understand

1271
00:37:12,464 --> 00:37:14,198
through the rfp process, who

1272
00:37:14,198 --> 00:37:15,232
has selected. So, um, I hope

1273
00:37:15,232 --> 00:37:17,101
that answers your question in

1274
00:37:17,101 --> 00:37:20,101
terms of the transition we

1275
00:37:21,720 --> 00:37:23,241
have, I think almost 100. Um,

1276
00:37:23,241 --> 00:37:24,843
is it 90? Almost nearly 90

1277
00:37:24,843 --> 00:37:27,843
referrals in the first quarter

1278
00:37:28,646 --> 00:37:30,180
of 2026? Um, so, uh,

1279
00:37:30,180 --> 00:37:31,649
programming and referrals and

1280
00:37:31,649 --> 00:37:33,318
services are continuing this

1281
00:37:33,318 --> 00:37:35,119
year with current partners and

1282
00:37:35,119 --> 00:37:36,587
what our, what our work and

1283
00:37:36,587 --> 00:37:37,388
does through relationships,

1284
00:37:37,388 --> 00:37:39,788
through timing and through

1285
00:37:39,791 --> 00:37:42,593
planning is to really ensure a

1286
00:37:42,593 --> 00:37:45,593
seamless transition from rcp to

1287
00:37:45,896 --> 00:37:49,401
kc. And so we actually have

1288
00:37:49,401 --> 00:37:50,969
overlapping, um, overlapping

1289
00:37:50,969 --> 00:37:54,500
periods of service so that we

1290
00:37:54,500 --> 00:37:55,807
can actually avoid gaps where a

1291
00:37:55,807 --> 00:37:58,510
young person can get could get

1292
00:37:58,510 --> 00:38:00,712
lost right in that or get um,

1293
00:38:00,712 --> 00:38:03,112
um, disrupted service during

1294
00:38:03,248 --> 00:38:03,451
that time. And then, um, I

1295
00:38:03,451 --> 00:38:04,615
m

1296
00:38:04,615 --> 00:38:05,749
really glad. Stephanie, thank

1297
00:38:05,749 --> 00:38:06,550
you so much for joining us from

1298
00:38:06,550 --> 00:38:06,817
the prosecuting attorney

1299
00:38:06,817 --> 00:38:07,618
s

1300
00:38:07,618 --> 00:38:08,419
office. I think that

1301
00:38:08,419 --> 00:38:09,721
s part of

1302
00:38:09,721 --> 00:38:10,388
our charge ahead. And we

1303
00:38:10,388 --> 00:38:10,554
re

1304
00:38:10,554 --> 00:38:12,189
we

1305
00:38:12,189 --> 00:38:13,391
ve, uh, remaining close

1306
00:38:13,391 --> 00:38:13,991
collaboration, and we

1307
00:38:13,991 --> 00:38:15,991
re

1308
00:38:16,260 --> 00:38:17,162
excited, um, to continue this

1309
00:38:17,162 --> 00:38:19,562
work together in our

1310
00:38:19,764 --> 00:38:21,733
communication and how to see

1311
00:38:21,733 --> 00:38:22,166
the improvements and changes in

1312
00:38:22,166 --> 00:38:22,633
case I think it

1313
00:38:22,633 --> 00:38:24,633
s a common

1314
00:38:24,636 --> 00:38:26,270
interest of ours to also

1315
00:38:26,270 --> 00:38:28,390
understand how this is working.

1316
00:38:28,390 --> 00:38:31,390
And, um, finding that way

1317
00:38:41,752 --> 00:38:42,988
together, it will be important.

1318
00:38:42,988 --> 00:38:44,988
My message something.

1319
00:38:45,422 --> 00:38:46,857
Oh, Chair von Reichbauer. Uh,

1320
00:38:46,857 --> 00:38:48,580
Mayor Ralph has her hand up,

1321
00:38:48,580 --> 00:38:48,826
and then I have follow up

1322
00:38:48,826 --> 00:38:50,826
questions.

1323
00:38:51,610 --> 00:38:53,330
Okay. Mayor Ralph, thank you.

1324
00:38:53,330 --> 00:38:55,700
Thank you, MR. Chair. Um, thank

1325
00:38:55,700 --> 00:38:55,933
you for the presentation. I,

1326
00:38:55,933 --> 00:38:57,100
um, I

1327
00:38:57,100 --> 00:38:57,235
ve got a couple of things

1328
00:38:57,235 --> 00:38:58,670
that I

1329
00:38:58,670 --> 00:39:00,104
m maybe just not

1330
00:39:00,104 --> 00:39:00,838
tracking, and so I want

1331
00:39:00,838 --> 00:39:03,838
hopefully you can get some

1332
00:39:04,900 --> 00:39:06,677
clarity. So the the referral

1333
00:39:06,677 --> 00:39:08,413
portion is moving out of what

1334
00:39:08,413 --> 00:39:09,813
has historically been sort of

1335
00:39:09,813 --> 00:39:12,213
that, that community based

1336
00:39:12,783 --> 00:39:15,783
consortium and into internal to

1337
00:39:15,854 --> 00:39:19,454
King County is is there a

1338
00:39:20,124 --> 00:39:21,725
reboot of of rcp itself and

1339
00:39:21,725 --> 00:39:22,893
under a new name, or is it

1340
00:39:22,893 --> 00:39:23,762
going to continue sort of the

1341
00:39:23,762 --> 00:39:24,395
same philosophy? I mean, some

1342
00:39:24,395 --> 00:39:24,562
of the places that I

1343
00:39:24,562 --> 00:39:26,640
m

1344
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,640
thinking, um, you have the

1345
00:39:29,199 --> 00:39:31,599
slide about the 522 youth

1346
00:39:31,636 --> 00:39:32,737
served, 2290 exited.

1347
00:39:32,737 --> 00:39:33,471
Historically, we

1348
00:39:33,471 --> 00:39:34,400
ve been told

1349
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:35,239
that if there

1350
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,740
s any contact at

1351
00:39:37,740 --> 00:39:38,310
all that qualifies the youth as

1352
00:39:38,310 --> 00:39:38,509
having been served, but then

1353
00:39:38,509 --> 00:39:40,245
there

1354
00:39:40,245 --> 00:39:42,514
s not a tracking of sort

1355
00:39:42,514 --> 00:39:43,747
of of completion. And I think

1356
00:39:43,747 --> 00:39:45,500
that lends itself to the

1357
00:39:45,500 --> 00:39:46,918
questions that you heard from,

1358
00:39:46,918 --> 00:39:49,154
from mayor back as of what are

1359
00:39:49,154 --> 00:39:50,722
what are we counting as served?

1360
00:39:50,722 --> 00:39:52,657
What does completion mean?

1361
00:39:52,657 --> 00:39:54,125
There were a lot of things

1362
00:39:54,125 --> 00:39:56,594
historically that I think we

1363
00:39:56,594 --> 00:39:56,768
had questions around. Um, and

1364
00:39:56,768 --> 00:39:58,768
I

1365
00:39:59,163 --> 00:40:01,533
m not I just need to better,

1366
00:40:01,533 --> 00:40:02,833
I guess, understand what what

1367
00:40:02,833 --> 00:40:04,536
this looks like going forward.

1368
00:40:04,536 --> 00:40:05,770
Because we I think we did feel

1369
00:40:05,770 --> 00:40:07,771
like there were a lot of gaps,

1370
00:40:07,771 --> 00:40:10,750
just contact with the youth did

1371
00:40:10,750 --> 00:40:11,343
not in a lot of our minds mean

1372
00:40:11,343 --> 00:40:12,676
that there was any sort of

1373
00:40:12,676 --> 00:40:14,676
restorative services offered.

1374
00:40:16,130 --> 00:40:18,249
And then and there was no, um,

1375
00:40:18,249 --> 00:40:20,451
there was no requirement. So if

1376
00:40:20,451 --> 00:40:22,386
they chose to make contact or

1377
00:40:22,386 --> 00:40:23,688
make contact one time, then

1378
00:40:23,688 --> 00:40:25,723
then that qualified them as

1379
00:40:25,723 --> 00:40:27,759
having completed a program. So

1380
00:40:27,759 --> 00:40:29,526
trying to figure out sort of is

1381
00:40:29,526 --> 00:40:29,694
is this the same thing? Just

1382
00:40:29,694 --> 00:40:30,561
we

1383
00:40:30,561 --> 00:40:31,996
re calling it something

1384
00:40:31,996 --> 00:40:33,298
different or are we looking at

1385
00:40:33,298 --> 00:40:34,432
it in a different in a

1386
00:40:34,432 --> 00:40:37,234
different way with a different

1387
00:40:37,234 --> 00:40:37,701
philosophy?

1388
00:40:37,701 --> 00:40:39,503
Uh, that

1389
00:40:39,503 --> 00:40:41,903
s a great question.

1390
00:40:43,475 --> 00:40:44,676
Um, I just want to say that I

1391
00:40:44,676 --> 00:40:45,443
think it was Councilmember

1392
00:40:45,443 --> 00:40:46,277
Burrell that we should be

1393
00:40:46,277 --> 00:40:47,411
having more of these

1394
00:40:47,411 --> 00:40:48,780
conversations, because I think

1395
00:40:48,780 --> 00:40:50,140
there was a lot of improvements

1396
00:40:50,140 --> 00:40:52,830
over time, from the beginning

1397
00:40:52,830 --> 00:40:54,840
of the program to last year.

1398
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:56,387
Um, and getting this set up, as

1399
00:40:56,387 --> 00:40:57,789
you said, in terms of defining

1400
00:40:57,789 --> 00:40:58,656
program completion, like in the

1401
00:40:58,656 --> 00:40:58,890
very beginning, I don

1402
00:40:58,890 --> 00:41:00,124
t think

1403
00:41:00,124 --> 00:41:01,393
we collected data on program

1404
00:41:01,393 --> 00:41:02,560
start date, program end date,

1405
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:03,527
and what happened in between.

1406
00:41:03,527 --> 00:41:05,329
Right. But that was has

1407
00:41:05,329 --> 00:41:07,332
actually been added. So program

1408
00:41:07,332 --> 00:41:07,531
completion is some of the data

1409
00:41:07,531 --> 00:41:09,990
that

1410
00:41:09,990 --> 00:41:11,499
s already being collected

1411
00:41:11,937 --> 00:41:13,971
in terms of starting services

1412
00:41:13,971 --> 00:41:15,206
provided and ending and

1413
00:41:15,206 --> 00:41:15,373
completing meaning like that

1414
00:41:15,373 --> 00:41:15,873
s

1415
00:41:15,873 --> 00:41:17,873
a that

1416
00:41:18,376 --> 00:41:18,677
s a um, uh, you

1417
00:41:18,677 --> 00:41:20,677
ve

1418
00:41:20,845 --> 00:41:21,630
completed your plan and your,

1419
00:41:21,630 --> 00:41:21,412
you

1420
00:41:21,412 --> 00:41:22,113
ve, your, you

1421
00:41:22,113 --> 00:41:23,747
re exiting

1422
00:41:23,747 --> 00:41:24,950
with a completion rather than

1423
00:41:24,950 --> 00:41:27,950
exiting like just sort of

1424
00:41:28,252 --> 00:41:30,221
stopped attending meetings or,

1425
00:41:30,221 --> 00:41:30,821
um, exited without completion,

1426
00:41:30,821 --> 00:41:32,390
completion of services. So

1427
00:41:32,390 --> 00:41:34,625
there have been improvements in

1428
00:41:34,625 --> 00:41:36,930
that. Um, and they will

1429
00:41:36,930 --> 00:41:37,962
continue to be and actually we

1430
00:41:37,962 --> 00:41:40,310
have more data in terms of the

1431
00:41:40,310 --> 00:41:41,800
types of services being

1432
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,969
provided that we that we will

1433
00:41:44,969 --> 00:41:47,472
be collecting. So, um, a lot of

1434
00:41:47,472 --> 00:41:50,240
the early years and the start

1435
00:41:50,240 --> 00:41:52,576
of, of the system, as we as we

1436
00:41:52,576 --> 00:41:55,576
started that up in 2022 and

1437
00:41:55,714 --> 00:41:57,781
2023, but by 2024 and 2025, we

1438
00:41:57,781 --> 00:42:00,151
did make a lot of adjustments

1439
00:42:00,151 --> 00:42:01,686
in terms of understanding and

1440
00:42:01,686 --> 00:42:03,288
collecting the data that you

1441
00:42:03,288 --> 00:42:06,888
would see now more recently in

1442
00:42:07,259 --> 00:42:10,859
those reports, um, it is the

1443
00:42:11,662 --> 00:42:13,497
the restorative community

1444
00:42:13,497 --> 00:42:15,897
pathways is concluding its

1445
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:17,369
contracts in this year and from

1446
00:42:17,369 --> 00:42:18,302
2027, it

1447
00:42:18,302 --> 00:42:19,136
s the King County

1448
00:42:19,136 --> 00:42:20,305
Youth Diversion and

1449
00:42:20,305 --> 00:42:22,406
Intervention Program. Um, yes.

1450
00:42:22,406 --> 00:42:23,475
So the referral administrator

1451
00:42:23,475 --> 00:42:25,243
who was sitting in the

1452
00:42:25,243 --> 00:42:27,545
community is now actually

1453
00:42:27,545 --> 00:42:29,613
sitting in dhs, is a member of

1454
00:42:29,613 --> 00:42:31,182
my team and is working closely

1455
00:42:31,182 --> 00:42:31,917
with Stephanie within the pow

1456
00:42:31,917 --> 00:42:33,518
and working with those

1457
00:42:33,518 --> 00:42:34,752
referrals. And so one of the

1458
00:42:34,752 --> 00:42:37,388
things that we actually changed

1459
00:42:37,388 --> 00:42:39,900
up is that those conversations

1460
00:42:39,900 --> 00:42:40,625
with the first contact is

1461
00:42:40,625 --> 00:42:42,360
actually being handled by our

1462
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:42,861
team to actually understand

1463
00:42:42,861 --> 00:42:44,696
that young person

1464
00:42:44,696 --> 00:42:46,164
s situation,

1465
00:42:46,164 --> 00:42:46,331
what is it? And even if they

1466
00:42:46,331 --> 00:42:47,332
don

1467
00:42:47,332 --> 00:42:47,531
t accept services, that

1468
00:42:47,531 --> 00:42:48,733
s a

1469
00:42:48,733 --> 00:42:49,800
great opportunity still for

1470
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:50,901
understanding, for

1471
00:42:50,901 --> 00:42:51,336
accountability. You know, in

1472
00:42:51,336 --> 00:42:52,170
our and I

1473
00:42:52,170 --> 00:42:53,405
m really excited that

1474
00:42:53,405 --> 00:42:54,539
our program manager, our

1475
00:42:54,539 --> 00:42:56,539
referral administrator actually

1476
00:42:56,775 --> 00:42:57,942
has this, this expertise to

1477
00:42:57,942 --> 00:42:58,577
understand the consequence. You

1478
00:42:58,577 --> 00:42:59,411
know, you can still have a

1479
00:42:59,411 --> 00:43:00,812
conversation around

1480
00:43:00,812 --> 00:43:01,846
consequences of actions and

1481
00:43:01,846 --> 00:43:02,180
understand if you if you don

1482
00:43:02,180 --> 00:43:02,647
t,

1483
00:43:02,647 --> 00:43:04,149
even if you don

1484
00:43:04,149 --> 00:43:06,149
t need, um,

1485
00:43:06,351 --> 00:43:07,751
urgency, emergent or urgent

1486
00:43:07,751 --> 00:43:09,219
housing assistance or

1487
00:43:09,219 --> 00:43:11,356
behavioral health services. And

1488
00:43:11,356 --> 00:43:12,623
so that triaging which when I

1489
00:43:12,623 --> 00:43:14,392
explain sort of happening in

1490
00:43:14,392 --> 00:43:16,940
the county is an opportunity

1491
00:43:16,940 --> 00:43:17,828
for us to better understand

1492
00:43:17,828 --> 00:43:20,970
that young person as they get

1493
00:43:20,970 --> 00:43:21,700
referred and to work with the

1494
00:43:21,700 --> 00:43:23,834
collection of the data. And I

1495
00:43:23,834 --> 00:43:25,203
would just add that I think

1496
00:43:25,203 --> 00:43:25,437
this is the opportunity to add.

1497
00:43:25,437 --> 00:43:26,204
i didn

1498
00:43:26,204 --> 00:43:27,405
t want to put in too

1499
00:43:27,405 --> 00:43:27,905
much, but I think it

1500
00:43:27,905 --> 00:43:29,174
s a great

1501
00:43:29,174 --> 00:43:30,241
opportunity for us. Like you

1502
00:43:30,241 --> 00:43:30,442
were saying, Mayor Baucus. And

1503
00:43:30,442 --> 00:43:31,342
if we

1504
00:43:31,342 --> 00:43:32,810
re looking at where these

1505
00:43:32,810 --> 00:43:33,712
young people are coming from

1506
00:43:33,712 --> 00:43:35,180
and if a lot of these are

1507
00:43:35,180 --> 00:43:36,880
coming from schools like my

1508
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:37,648
dream beyond this program is

1509
00:43:37,648 --> 00:43:39,784
like, can we actually get

1510
00:43:39,784 --> 00:43:41,352
capacity into those schools and

1511
00:43:41,352 --> 00:43:44,623
to support the schools if to

1512
00:43:44,623 --> 00:43:45,757
with, um, increased capacity to

1513
00:43:45,757 --> 00:43:47,920
work with the young people on

1514
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:48,920
this does not even get to refer

1515
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:48,827
to the police and to the

1516
00:43:48,827 --> 00:43:49,361
prosecuting attorney

1517
00:43:49,361 --> 00:43:49,593
s office,

1518
00:43:49,593 --> 00:43:50,829
then we

1519
00:43:50,829 --> 00:43:51,895
re really going to like

1520
00:43:51,895 --> 00:43:52,997
the cause, because I know

1521
00:43:52,997 --> 00:43:54,432
schools have a lot on their

1522
00:43:54,432 --> 00:43:56,700
plates and their own capacity

1523
00:43:56,700 --> 00:43:58,300
to deal to, to work with

1524
00:43:58,300 --> 00:43:58,903
conflicts or crises that young

1525
00:43:58,903 --> 00:43:59,904
people might be having in

1526
00:43:59,904 --> 00:44:02,140
their, in their school sites.

1527
00:44:02,140 --> 00:44:03,942
And so, um, I think part of my

1528
00:44:03,942 --> 00:44:05,342
dream is to is, is that having

1529
00:44:05,342 --> 00:44:06,443
access to this data and

1530
00:44:06,443 --> 00:44:07,544
understand the time and effort

1531
00:44:07,544 --> 00:44:08,613
to be able to understand that

1532
00:44:08,613 --> 00:44:10,480
and understand a little bit

1533
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:10,214
more, uh, the young people that

1534
00:44:10,214 --> 00:44:10,682
we

1535
00:44:10,682 --> 00:44:10,836
re getting, where they

1536
00:44:10,836 --> 00:44:11,583
re

1537
00:44:11,583 --> 00:44:12,617
coming from. And can we

1538
00:44:12,617 --> 00:44:14,190
actually go to the source in

1539
00:44:14,190 --> 00:44:15,850
the future and look at how we

1540
00:44:15,850 --> 00:44:16,220
might partner to provide

1541
00:44:16,220 --> 00:44:17,755
additional resources to

1542
00:44:17,755 --> 00:44:18,890
actually just not even get them

1543
00:44:18,890 --> 00:44:20,291
referred to the pa in the

1544
00:44:20,291 --> 00:44:22,494
future? That would be that

1545
00:44:22,494 --> 00:44:24,610
would be sort of my next step,

1546
00:44:24,610 --> 00:44:26,364
where I would love to see us

1547
00:44:26,364 --> 00:44:28,333
grow if possible, with with

1548
00:44:28,333 --> 00:44:29,333
this initiative. I hope Mayor

1549
00:44:29,333 --> 00:44:30,568
Ralph, that that explained. But

1550
00:44:30,568 --> 00:44:31,102
but if you want additional

1551
00:44:31,102 --> 00:44:31,436
clarification, I

1552
00:44:31,436 --> 00:44:31,770
m really

1553
00:44:31,770 --> 00:44:32,504
happy. I don

1554
00:44:32,504 --> 00:44:34,905
t know if if I

1555
00:44:34,905 --> 00:44:36,274
know we answered your question.

1556
00:44:36,274 --> 00:44:37,742
That was helpful. MR. Chair,

1557
00:44:37,742 --> 00:44:38,710
can I ask a follow up?

1558
00:44:38,710 --> 00:44:40,710
Absolutely.

1559
00:44:41,346 --> 00:44:43,810
Um, so one of the things, Jen,

1560
00:44:43,810 --> 00:44:43,248
that you noted is that you so

1561
00:44:43,248 --> 00:44:43,914
you

1562
00:44:43,914 --> 00:44:46,314
re making that first

1563
00:44:47,819 --> 00:44:49,920
contact. And if if the youth

1564
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,920
makes the decision to, to

1565
00:44:53,657 --> 00:44:54,926
receive service previously that

1566
00:44:54,926 --> 00:44:55,125
was a decision. And if they

1567
00:44:55,125 --> 00:44:57,125
didn

1568
00:44:57,162 --> 00:45:00,762
t, then there was no next

1569
00:45:00,764 --> 00:45:02,334
step. So in in this new model,

1570
00:45:02,334 --> 00:45:05,334
are they then being referred

1571
00:45:06,710 --> 00:45:07,939
back to the Pao for follow ups

1572
00:45:07,939 --> 00:45:09,808
like they they chose to not

1573
00:45:09,808 --> 00:45:12,110
seek restorative services. So

1574
00:45:12,110 --> 00:45:13,877
so then there will be that uh,

1575
00:45:13,877 --> 00:45:15,914
that more legal path. Or are we

1576
00:45:15,914 --> 00:45:19,850
just saying we gave it a shot

1577
00:45:19,850 --> 00:45:22,754
and they chose not to this time.

1578
00:45:22,754 --> 00:45:23,921
Yeah. So if we I think that

1579
00:45:23,921 --> 00:45:24,122
stays the same. And correct me

1580
00:45:24,122 --> 00:45:25,223
if I

1581
00:45:25,223 --> 00:45:25,991
m wrong, Stephanie, if we

1582
00:45:25,991 --> 00:45:26,258
have a young person, let

1583
00:45:26,258 --> 00:45:27,920
s say,

1584
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:27,425
for example, that we can

1585
00:45:27,425 --> 00:45:29,425
t

1586
00:45:29,526 --> 00:45:30,729
contact or that refuses to have

1587
00:45:30,729 --> 00:45:32,697
the conversation or accept

1588
00:45:32,697 --> 00:45:34,366
services, those that gets

1589
00:45:34,366 --> 00:45:34,666
reported back to the to the

1590
00:45:34,666 --> 00:45:35,600
prosecutor

1591
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:35,866
s prosecuting

1592
00:45:35,866 --> 00:45:36,868
attorney

1593
00:45:36,868 --> 00:45:38,569
s office. I think

1594
00:45:38,569 --> 00:45:41,273
within 90 days. I think, if I

1595
00:45:41,273 --> 00:45:43,673
recall correctly, yes. Right.

1596
00:45:44,750 --> 00:45:45,543
Yes, yes. So those individuals

1597
00:45:45,543 --> 00:45:46,711
get referred back. And I guess

1598
00:45:46,711 --> 00:45:49,614
what I meant in terms of length

1599
00:45:49,614 --> 00:45:51,649
of services, uh, we have young

1600
00:45:51,649 --> 00:45:53,218
person who really that might be

1601
00:45:53,218 --> 00:45:54,452
around the accountability piece

1602
00:45:54,452 --> 00:45:55,654
and a discussion with that. And

1603
00:45:55,654 --> 00:45:59,254
we have other young people who

1604
00:45:59,257 --> 00:46:00,190
might need, um, who might not

1605
00:46:00,190 --> 00:46:03,461
who might not be going to

1606
00:46:03,461 --> 00:46:03,862
school or who might have, um,

1607
00:46:03,862 --> 00:46:05,862
um, we

1608
00:46:06,665 --> 00:46:08,733
ve had um, uh, might

1609
00:46:08,733 --> 00:46:09,868
need, uh, referrals to, uh,

1610
00:46:09,868 --> 00:46:11,403
mental health or behavioral

1611
00:46:11,403 --> 00:46:12,236
health services. Right. Or are

1612
00:46:12,236 --> 00:46:14,606
we understand that their

1613
00:46:14,606 --> 00:46:16,241
families are actually in, uh,

1614
00:46:16,241 --> 00:46:17,542
housing? Housing is a big we

1615
00:46:17,542 --> 00:46:18,542
have navigators saying, can you

1616
00:46:18,542 --> 00:46:20,345
help us with our, you know, our

1617
00:46:20,345 --> 00:46:22,130
housing, our housing

1618
00:46:22,130 --> 00:46:23,481
instability and that, you know,

1619
00:46:23,481 --> 00:46:25,282
that that still remains. So

1620
00:46:25,282 --> 00:46:27,986
when we see those overlaps and

1621
00:46:27,986 --> 00:46:29,220
where you look into, um, nine

1622
00:46:29,220 --> 00:46:30,956
months is a long, you know, is

1623
00:46:30,956 --> 00:46:31,110
a is a significant and that

1624
00:46:31,110 --> 00:46:32,591
s

1625
00:46:32,591 --> 00:46:34,692
an average, right. So nine

1626
00:46:34,692 --> 00:46:35,594
months of a young person. And I

1627
00:46:35,594 --> 00:46:36,728
think when we think about

1628
00:46:36,728 --> 00:46:38,697
children and we think about

1629
00:46:38,697 --> 00:46:40,532
young people and things like

1630
00:46:40,532 --> 00:46:41,933
positive peer connection and

1631
00:46:41,933 --> 00:46:43,100
social connection, it seems

1632
00:46:43,100 --> 00:46:44,169
like a simple indicator. But

1633
00:46:44,169 --> 00:46:45,704
when you think about your child

1634
00:46:45,704 --> 00:46:46,371
or your or someone in your life

1635
00:46:46,371 --> 00:46:46,671
and you think that they

1636
00:46:46,671 --> 00:46:48,730
re

1637
00:46:48,730 --> 00:46:49,874
isolated or their peer

1638
00:46:49,874 --> 00:46:51,874
influences, maybe, uh,

1639
00:46:52,677 --> 00:46:54,212
contributing to poor decisions

1640
00:46:54,212 --> 00:46:56,130
or school might not feel like a

1641
00:46:56,130 --> 00:46:57,881
safe place. They might be, uh,

1642
00:46:57,881 --> 00:46:58,516
truant. All of those things are

1643
00:46:58,516 --> 00:46:59,584
the things that we think

1644
00:46:59,584 --> 00:47:00,652
around. Service plans and

1645
00:47:00,652 --> 00:47:01,753
action plans is how do we

1646
00:47:01,753 --> 00:47:04,289
support that young person to be

1647
00:47:04,289 --> 00:47:06,391
successful? Um, in getting

1648
00:47:06,391 --> 00:47:07,958
education, if they can, for

1649
00:47:07,958 --> 00:47:09,227
example, back in school or

1650
00:47:09,227 --> 00:47:10,528
through our own sites where we

1651
00:47:10,528 --> 00:47:12,463
work, we provide ged high

1652
00:47:12,463 --> 00:47:14,266
school and post-secondary and

1653
00:47:14,266 --> 00:47:15,867
education employment as an

1654
00:47:15,867 --> 00:47:17,200
alternative learning option.

1655
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:17,836
Um, but those are the kinds of

1656
00:47:17,836 --> 00:47:19,404
things when you think about the

1657
00:47:19,404 --> 00:47:21,306
service plans and what that

1658
00:47:21,306 --> 00:47:23,408
young person might need to to

1659
00:47:23,408 --> 00:47:24,209
be successful and to fulfill

1660
00:47:24,209 --> 00:47:24,408
their own plan. So that

1661
00:47:24,408 --> 00:47:24,609
s

1662
00:47:24,609 --> 00:47:25,343
that

1663
00:47:25,343 --> 00:47:26,878
s sort of that discussion.

1664
00:47:26,878 --> 00:47:27,780
And sometimes if it

1665
00:47:27,780 --> 00:47:27,879
s a

1666
00:47:27,879 --> 00:47:28,178
shoplifting and there

1667
00:47:28,178 --> 00:47:29,347
s really

1668
00:47:29,347 --> 00:47:29,547
no other issue that might be,

1669
00:47:29,547 --> 00:47:30,140
that

1670
00:47:30,140 --> 00:47:31,283
s a sort of an

1671
00:47:31,283 --> 00:47:31,716
accountability conversation.

1672
00:47:31,716 --> 00:47:32,484
And if it

1673
00:47:32,484 --> 00:47:34,185
s if it

1674
00:47:34,185 --> 00:47:36,185
s, um, those

1675
00:47:37,689 --> 00:47:38,423
more serious, uh, barriers and

1676
00:47:38,423 --> 00:47:38,924
concerns, then that

1677
00:47:38,924 --> 00:47:39,124
s a longer

1678
00:47:39,124 --> 00:47:40,659
that

1679
00:47:40,659 --> 00:47:42,760
s a longer plan.

1680
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:44,562
A follow up, Mayor Roff.

1681
00:47:44,562 --> 00:47:45,362
No, thank you.

1682
00:47:45,362 --> 00:47:46,398
Mayor Bacchus, I

1683
00:47:46,398 --> 00:47:47,465
d like to get

1684
00:47:47,465 --> 00:47:47,666
Councilmember Robinson, who

1685
00:47:47,666 --> 00:47:48,566
hasn

1686
00:47:48,566 --> 00:47:50,468
t? Yes. First,

1687
00:47:50,468 --> 00:47:51,703
Councilmember Robinson.

1688
00:47:51,703 --> 00:47:52,304
Oh, thank you, I I

1689
00:47:52,304 --> 00:47:53,405
m on light

1690
00:47:53,405 --> 00:47:53,939
rail, so I hope it

1691
00:47:53,939 --> 00:47:55,273
s not too

1692
00:47:55,273 --> 00:47:56,740
loud. Um, you can

1693
00:47:56,740 --> 00:47:57,409
t listen to

1694
00:47:57,409 --> 00:47:57,609
this without hoping that we

1695
00:47:57,609 --> 00:47:59,311
re

1696
00:47:59,311 --> 00:48:01,460
putting as much energy and

1697
00:48:01,460 --> 00:48:03,181
funding into prevention. Just

1698
00:48:03,181 --> 00:48:04,916
like what Jen talked about. I

1699
00:48:04,916 --> 00:48:07,719
would love to see this program

1700
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:11,220
with a phase, a second phase

1701
00:48:11,220 --> 00:48:12,791
of, um, a plan to get more

1702
00:48:12,791 --> 00:48:14,392
funding for prevention as well

1703
00:48:14,392 --> 00:48:15,260
as this so that we can work in

1704
00:48:15,260 --> 00:48:16,328
tandem. I think it

1705
00:48:16,328 --> 00:48:16,661
s just it

1706
00:48:16,661 --> 00:48:18,661
s

1707
00:48:18,763 --> 00:48:18,964
got to be the big picture. But

1708
00:48:18,964 --> 00:48:20,964
that

1709
00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:26,680
s my only comment. Thanks.

1710
00:48:26,671 --> 00:48:28,671
During any comment?

1711
00:48:29,574 --> 00:48:30,342
Um, yes, I thank you very much.

1712
00:48:30,342 --> 00:48:31,743
I think it

1713
00:48:31,743 --> 00:48:33,945
s, uh, I would

1714
00:48:33,945 --> 00:48:35,847
completely agree. I think it

1715
00:48:35,847 --> 00:48:39,351
is, um, in early prevention or

1716
00:48:39,351 --> 00:48:41,751
an early intervention. Um,

1717
00:48:42,220 --> 00:48:44,322
program. And if it helps us to

1718
00:48:44,322 --> 00:48:46,491
identify, um, young people that

1719
00:48:46,491 --> 00:48:47,826
are in need of, of services and

1720
00:48:47,826 --> 00:48:48,260
supports. And so I think it

1721
00:48:48,260 --> 00:48:48,242
s,

1722
00:48:48,242 --> 00:48:49,394
there

1723
00:48:49,394 --> 00:48:50,562
s great potential and

1724
00:48:50,562 --> 00:48:51,696
opportunity to continue to

1725
00:48:51,696 --> 00:48:53,365
build off this program. Like I

1726
00:48:53,365 --> 00:48:54,466
said, how do we actually

1727
00:48:54,466 --> 00:48:56,935
understand look at have the

1728
00:48:56,935 --> 00:48:58,736
data to understand potential

1729
00:48:58,736 --> 00:49:00,238
trends? Um, and get those

1730
00:49:00,238 --> 00:49:02,374
resources and the supports

1731
00:49:02,374 --> 00:49:04,509
earlier on even, you know, at

1732
00:49:04,509 --> 00:49:07,120
the, um, at sort of at the

1733
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:09,580
source, um, um, rather than

1734
00:49:09,580 --> 00:49:12,170
having a pow pow referral, that

1735
00:49:12,170 --> 00:49:15,654
would be that would be, to me,

1736
00:49:15,654 --> 00:49:17,289
uh, a wise, uh, and exciting

1737
00:49:17,289 --> 00:49:19,240
strategy and investment.

1738
00:49:19,240 --> 00:49:20,292
Thank you. Mayor Backus. Always

1739
00:49:20,292 --> 00:49:22,160
the last word.

1740
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:25,630
Yeah. Thank you, MR. Chair.

1741
00:49:25,630 --> 00:49:26,631
Jen. Thank you. And I hope that

1742
00:49:26,631 --> 00:49:27,832
the South King County mayors

1743
00:49:27,832 --> 00:49:28,233
and you become each other

1744
00:49:28,233 --> 00:49:30,233
s new

1745
00:49:31,603 --> 00:49:33,939
best friends. Um, we we really

1746
00:49:33,939 --> 00:49:37,800
do want to partner with you. I

1747
00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:39,411
just have one more question.

1748
00:49:39,411 --> 00:49:43,110
And this was something that was

1749
00:49:44,816 --> 00:49:49,160
kind of nebulous in rcp is if

1750
00:49:49,154 --> 00:49:52,230
if a young person does not

1751
00:49:52,230 --> 00:49:54,423
follow through on the

1752
00:49:55,627 --> 00:49:57,627
community, uh, community

1753
00:49:59,164 --> 00:50:01,320
benefits and they do reoffend,

1754
00:50:01,320 --> 00:50:03,432
do they have another

1755
00:50:04,302 --> 00:50:05,770
opportunity to be part of this

1756
00:50:05,770 --> 00:50:07,973
new youth diversion and

1757
00:50:07,973 --> 00:50:10,108
intervention program, or have

1758
00:50:10,108 --> 00:50:12,143
they already had that

1759
00:50:12,143 --> 00:50:14,543
opportunity, did not follow

1760
00:50:14,613 --> 00:50:15,280
through, and therefore it goes

1761
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:17,280
to the prosecutor

1762
00:50:18,950 --> 00:50:20,950
s office.

1763
00:50:22,254 --> 00:50:22,417
Um, Stephanie, since.

1764
00:50:22,417 --> 00:50:23,488
I

1765
00:50:23,488 --> 00:50:24,788
m happy to answer that. And

1766
00:50:24,788 --> 00:50:25,900
Stephanie, trolling from the

1767
00:50:25,900 --> 00:50:27,250
prosecutor

1768
00:50:27,250 --> 00:50:27,292
s office. Um, that

1769
00:50:27,292 --> 00:50:27,692
s

1770
00:50:27,692 --> 00:50:27,892
kind of it

1771
00:50:27,892 --> 00:50:28,793
s it

1772
00:50:28,793 --> 00:50:28,960
s not a it

1773
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:30,960
s

1774
00:50:31,663 --> 00:50:33,999
not a one size fits all answer

1775
00:50:33,999 --> 00:50:36,340
for the most part. Most youth

1776
00:50:36,340 --> 00:50:38,470
only will have one referral to

1777
00:50:38,470 --> 00:50:40,639
the King County youth. Um

1778
00:50:40,639 --> 00:50:43,390
diversion program, similar to

1779
00:50:43,141 --> 00:50:44,843
rcp. There are there are

1780
00:50:44,843 --> 00:50:45,710
instances when there are more

1781
00:50:45,710 --> 00:50:46,778
than one referral. It

1782
00:50:46,778 --> 00:50:47,445
s really

1783
00:50:47,445 --> 00:50:48,546
um, it

1784
00:50:48,546 --> 00:50:50,315
s really up to the

1785
00:50:50,315 --> 00:50:51,683
discretion of the prosecutor

1786
00:50:51,683 --> 00:50:54,152
reviewing the case. But I would

1787
00:50:54,152 --> 00:50:57,752
say those are pretty rare. Um,

1788
00:50:58,390 --> 00:50:59,758
and we do send, um, we would

1789
00:50:59,758 --> 00:51:01,126
share that information

1790
00:51:01,126 --> 00:51:02,994
certainly with the referring

1791
00:51:02,994 --> 00:51:04,529
law enforcement agency to an

1792
00:51:04,529 --> 00:51:07,529
example of when that might

1793
00:51:09,601 --> 00:51:11,360
happen is to, um, shoplifting

1794
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:12,504
instances that happened like

1795
00:51:12,504 --> 00:51:13,705
within a week or of each other

1796
00:51:13,705 --> 00:51:15,600
where somebody is doing some

1797
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:16,274
food from Safeway, and then two

1798
00:51:16,274 --> 00:51:17,108
weeks later is caught stealing

1799
00:51:17,108 --> 00:51:17,309
some food again. And there

1800
00:51:17,309 --> 00:51:18,443
haven

1801
00:51:18,443 --> 00:51:20,445
t really been much time

1802
00:51:20,445 --> 00:51:20,979
for engagement. We might think,

1803
00:51:20,979 --> 00:51:21,913
well, let

1804
00:51:21,913 --> 00:51:23,114
s not throw it all

1805
00:51:23,114 --> 00:51:24,249
away and bring them into the

1806
00:51:24,249 --> 00:51:24,916
court process yet. Let

1807
00:51:24,916 --> 00:51:26,151
s like

1808
00:51:26,151 --> 00:51:27,118
kind of treat those together.

1809
00:51:27,118 --> 00:51:30,121
Those are the most kind of

1810
00:51:30,121 --> 00:51:32,230
common scenarios. Like fairly

1811
00:51:32,230 --> 00:51:34,225
what we would consider fairly

1812
00:51:34,225 --> 00:51:34,392
low harm situations. There

1813
00:51:34,392 --> 00:51:35,860
s

1814
00:51:35,860 --> 00:51:36,940
not like a person victim or

1815
00:51:36,940 --> 00:51:37,262
someone

1816
00:51:37,262 --> 00:51:38,964
s been harmed and it

1817
00:51:38,964 --> 00:51:40,932
just makes good sense to try

1818
00:51:40,932 --> 00:51:43,969
that course at least. Um, but

1819
00:51:43,969 --> 00:51:44,769
otherwise this does count as a

1820
00:51:44,769 --> 00:51:45,136
diversion, if that

1821
00:51:45,136 --> 00:51:46,370
s what you

1822
00:51:46,370 --> 00:51:46,271
mean. And, you know, you

1823
00:51:46,271 --> 00:51:47,572
re

1824
00:51:47,572 --> 00:51:48,707
well aware. I know that, you

1825
00:51:48,707 --> 00:51:50,141
know, first offense

1826
00:51:50,141 --> 00:51:51,576
misdemeanors in this state are

1827
00:51:51,576 --> 00:51:53,178
mandatory diversion. We have no

1828
00:51:53,178 --> 00:51:53,345
discretion there. But once

1829
00:51:53,345 --> 00:51:55,345
we

1830
00:51:55,947 --> 00:51:57,782
ve sent a case, a referral

1831
00:51:57,782 --> 00:51:59,150
to this community diversion

1832
00:51:59,150 --> 00:52:00,785
program, it is a diversion

1833
00:52:00,785 --> 00:52:01,386
program. So then then it is our

1834
00:52:01,386 --> 00:52:02,530
discretion. We don

1835
00:52:02,530 --> 00:52:04,530
t have to

1836
00:52:04,356 --> 00:52:06,291
send the next one. So I hope

1837
00:52:06,291 --> 00:52:08,126
that kind of answers it.

1838
00:52:08,126 --> 00:52:09,894
That helps a great deal. Thank

1839
00:52:09,894 --> 00:52:11,496
you for that explanation. And

1840
00:52:11,496 --> 00:52:13,331
MISTER Chair, thank you for

1841
00:52:13,331 --> 00:52:15,731
indulging me this afternoon

1842
00:52:16,100 --> 00:52:16,167
with so many questions. Uh,

1843
00:52:16,167 --> 00:52:18,167
it

1844
00:52:18,403 --> 00:52:20,338
s clearly an important topic

1845
00:52:20,338 --> 00:52:21,439
for our communities, and I just

1846
00:52:21,439 --> 00:52:22,140
want to make sure that we

1847
00:52:22,140 --> 00:52:24,140
re

1848
00:52:24,142 --> 00:52:25,744
understanding the benefits of

1849
00:52:25,744 --> 00:52:26,344
this new program.

1850
00:52:26,344 --> 00:52:26,978
I think you

1851
00:52:26,978 --> 00:52:28,978
ve raised also.

1852
00:52:28,980 --> 00:52:32,180
A good point. As I said, I hope

1853
00:52:32,180 --> 00:52:33,519
that becomes a huge success.

1854
00:52:33,519 --> 00:52:34,786
I agree, and and I think you

1855
00:52:34,786 --> 00:52:36,288
raised a good point about how

1856
00:52:36,288 --> 00:52:38,790
much impact it has in South

1857
00:52:38,790 --> 00:52:40,892
King County and how much those

1858
00:52:40,892 --> 00:52:42,527
numbers reflect a growing

1859
00:52:42,527 --> 00:52:43,828
problem. And hopefully

1860
00:52:43,828 --> 00:52:45,430
collectively, we can work

1861
00:52:45,430 --> 00:52:47,332
together. I hope to see many of

1862
00:52:47,332 --> 00:52:49,602
you tonight at the state of the

1863
00:52:49,602 --> 00:52:51,103
County address at the pac. Uh,

1864
00:52:51,103 --> 00:52:52,000
thank you all for being here.