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For the August 25th, 2026 committee,

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thank you colleagues for joining us. On today's agenda, we'll have discussion, a possible action, an appointment to a landmarks commission.

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We will then have an initial briefing on the King County, 2026, 2029, equal employment opportunity, affirmative action plan.

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But we're going to defer action until a future meeting. I'll explain a little bit about why.

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And then finally, we'll have a briefing from staff from the Executives Office and from the

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King County Regional Homeless Authority on the KSRHA Contract Transition Plan and the

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corrective Action Plan and we'll consider taking action on a motion accepting the

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Executives Support.

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Without a introduction, Clerk, will you please call the roll.

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Thank you, Chair.

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Council member Balducci, Council member Dimbalski, Council member Dunne, Council member

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Faye, Council member Lewis, here.

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Council member Mosqueta.

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Council member Perry.

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Council member Van Rikebauer.

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Terrible.

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Here.

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And we do have a quorum with the committee.

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Thank you.

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Vice-chair.

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Well, Council Vice-chair Dunson's our vice-chair of the committee is not here.

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May I have a motion for approval of the minutes of the June 23rd, 2026 meeting.

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Move approval.

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Thank you, any questions?

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Concerns, comments regarding the minutes.

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All right.

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All those in favor of approving the minutes, please say aye.

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Aye.

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any opposed, say nay, the meeting minutes are approved.

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We will now turn to public comment if anyone has joined us on Zoom and would like to

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provide public comment, please use the raise hand function or press star 9 if you have

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joined by phone.

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I do believe we have some folks in public provide public comments, so I'll read the rules on

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Public comment must be related to items with today's meeting agenda and not be used for the

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purpose of assisting a campaign for election of any person to any office or for the

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opposition to a developed proposition. It must also not include obscene speech. If a speaker fails to abide by these restrictions, I will rule the speaker out of order and have the speaker removed from the meeting. You will have two minutes to speak and you will hear a timer go off. You can finish your thought, but please wrap up your comments. If you go much past two minutes, you may be muted. We will begin by calling on the people who have signed up to speak in person. If you're probably coming remotely, please listen to the meeting on the Zoom call until you hear your name called. Clerk, please call on those who are with us in person.

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Thank you, John. Yes. Kevin, are there any other please?

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Welcome.

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Chair, Kevin Altheimer.

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Here to speak on affirmative action, which is a very significant thing in our societies,

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especially in the communities of people of color.

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As you know, in your audit of last year, there was a real affirmative action issue.

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You had an auditor who went outside of the scope and you guys know better.

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And then you also had a situation where on April the 15th, Roddum Bowsky met with,

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what's the name, Lula Ramodon, Seattle Times.

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And she said, hey, Rodd, it looks like you're going to make he did have an approval

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and Thomas Burlington did not rule against her for ethics.

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So then what does he do? He sends her, following up emails and says,

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Look, I've been trying to get the Inspector General's office for since 2023, so I got

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his email.

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So I'm just fair phrasing.

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So this is how affirmative action works.

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So you have people like him who does what he does.

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Then you have people like Kelly Ryder, a woman who was kicked out of here because she said

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there was no money missing in DCHS.

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And she also said that the family did not commit any ethics violation.

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You know that ethics violation thing goes two ways.

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It says, the county has a responsibility, so on April 9th, when Jennifer Tanaka found out

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that actually in 2023 she found out that the family dynamic is rare, she checked with

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Thomas, probably she said there isn't. Then what happened? It went to Megan, you know,

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guys took it to the state order to state order to turn it away. Do you know last week, a judge

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ruled against King County in her unemployment case and said that King County shouldn't have never

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put her on paid leave or violated her rights by bringing in an un- solidified document and claiming

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that it was truth. So what we have in this audit at King County OversightfowlsSubstack.com,

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everybody's act. I don't bring opinions. I show you exactly what you did.

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Thanks. Thank you. Claire, should we have anybody else signed up in person?

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Not in person. All right. Let's go. On line.

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next week at Nicole Filma. Welcome.

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My name is Nicole Filma

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Masecia and I work for court and entry for KCRAJ. Members of the

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council, I'm speaking today on behalf of the representative work

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is it?

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We're appearing before he with a clear urgent message. The regional approach to ending homelessness in King County is worth saving, and the frontline workforce doing this daily work is fully committed to making it succeed.

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When regionalism was established, it was in response to the fundamental truth that our unhoused neighbors in service networks do not stop at municipal borders.

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Overcoming this crisis requires regional alignment driven by commitment and power by experience.

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While headline coverage focuses on political friction behind that noise, our small, dedicated

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staff continue to build a main team, the essential operational machinery of this response

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system.

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Our continuum of care team secures millions of federal funding by managing the complex

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annual no-flow competition and oversight of the CLC funding contracts.

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Our severe weather response coordination protects lives during extreme weather events.

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Our independent omelette's office ensures consumer dignity, accountability and grievous resolution.

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Our coordinated entry team manages the direct front door to the system ensuring equitable access across all jurisdictions.

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Our research and data team manages HMIS.

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Users regionally unified open data to produce real-time, by-name lists and provides critical data governance for the entire system.

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Our program's division provides data-day contract monitoring,

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partnering to ensure contract compliance and quality by providing technical assistance, support

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and training to contract providers. Our compliance contracts and finance teams manage millions

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and funding, develops and executes contracts, ensures that here's the funder guidelines,

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leaves comprehensive monitoring processes, and reviews, invoices, and due diligence,

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documentation. We live and breathe this work every single day. We're not political maneuvers,

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We are still the service.

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Thank you, Nicole.

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And we hold on that expression.

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Next, we have Haley Women's.

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Welcome.

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Good morning, Council members.

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My name is Haley Willis with the Seattle King County Coalition on Homelessness,

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commenting on the transition plan for locally funded Homelessness Contracts.

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On behalf of more than 50 member organizations,

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who housed shelter and care for people experiencing Homelessness all over King County,

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We appreciate the executives and the council's careful attention to maintaining the stability of our homelessness response system.

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It's incredibly important that nobody loses or experiences a gap in the housing, shelter, or essential services they rely on every day,

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especially in light of ongoing uncertainty with federal continuum of care funding.

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Our community has led the way in adopting evidence-based approaches that recognize that people need a safe place to live as a foundation to heal and thrive.

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Thanks to these evidence-based practices, our community successfully helps thousands of people get a stable home and leave homelessness every year.

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As King County and Seattle resume management of locally funded contracts, we urge you to continue to keep best practices and regional collaboration at the center of your efforts to bring more people home.

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Thank you.

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Nice.

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Ryan.

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Welcome, Ryan.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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My name is Ryan Talon.

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I'm a registered nurse and I live in District 8.

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I do not work for KCRHA.

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I'm here as a taxpayer.

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The KCRHA CEO Kelli Kennis University, $300,000 in public funds, even though the agency has millions of dollars on accountent for it.

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To put that number of perspective, $300,000 in the cost of two to three nurses, I regularly discharge patients in a situation that they have no support.

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And the money that is meant to address that is going toward a salary of a CEO whose own governing board investigated her and found that she retaliated against her staff.

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a forensic audit found which an agency under her leadership cannot account for millions of dollars.

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As I have followed the story in the news, I've been wondering, when will someone be held accountable?

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The CEO retaliated against staff who reported physical concerns and based on her reports,

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she has also skipped council briefings about the audit.

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I want to ask, is this what my taxpayer dollars pay for?

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A CEO who appears unable to account for significant public funds and who remains in this position despite these concerns?

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King County ass voters through approval of these folks exactly this kind of work.

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I vote yes every time, but each story like this one gives the next voter a reason to say no.

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And the people who ultimately pay for that are my patients, not those in leadership.

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City and county leaders watching this may conclude that major failures will not carry real consequences.

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Staff may also learn to stay silent.

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When a workforce is top, not to speak up, the next $13 million could be omissing with no one left willing to raise the alarm.

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Councilman first sit on that journey.

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Board. There's no one else to wait for. I ask that you hold leadership accountable and remove her from the position.

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Thank you. Next, Ben Matsuthong.

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Hello. My name is Ben Matsuthong, and I am an analyst with KCRIJ. I'd like to build a moment.

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We lost Matthew.

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Maybe we could now go to the next speaker if there is another commenter, or if we can get Matthew back.

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next person's right.

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Welcome.

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Hi.

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Hi.

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We have a bad echo.

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So if you could mute it that whatever other device you have.

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Now we've lost sorry also.

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All right, we have you back.

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Hi.

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My name is Sori Aguilat.

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I'm with the coordinated entry team here at KCRHA.

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And building on what my colleague Nicole said we know that public confidence in our agency

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has been severely tested by executive transitions, audit findings and budget deficits.

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Recently, critics inside and now have labeled us as a failed experiment, but as staff

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doing the daily work, we ask that you look closely at where the perception comes from.

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partner confidence and in our ability to deliver results is higher today than ever.

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When people read the headline, critiques about agency mismanagement, they don't see the staff

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who's daily during severe weather activation to ensure shelter that are open.

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Or the program managers who have fought through housing instability themselves to earn graduate

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degrees and return to serve their community. Turbulence at leadership level may conceal

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or just drive from our best accomplishments, but it cannot conceal the competence, integrity, and

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dedication of the people performing the work. As King County navigates of your budget constraints,

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we want the council and the public to understand that our workforce embodies steep reservoirs

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of institutional knowledge, a diverse collection of technical and professional skills,

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and an unwavering commitment to our unhoused neighbors. Completing top-level administrative

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of turbulence with frontline operational capability is a threat to the very expertise that

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our regional response infrastructure depends on.

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Cutting the frontline workers who manage system access, secure federal grants, and

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maintain data integrity will not solve our regional homelessness crisis.

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It would only destroy the institutional memory and the operational capacity that keeps our

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regional homelessness response afloat.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Again, Ryan, Tom, please.

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Can you unmute yourself?

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I think we heard from Ryan.

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I think it was William that we skipped.

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Oh, sorry.

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What's up?

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Oh, Ben, sorry.

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Ben.

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Ben, can you unmute yourself, please?

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Yes, hello.

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Are you able to hear me?

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Yes, we can.

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Yes, Ben.

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We have a little bit of an echo,

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so if you have another device,

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make sure you turn that down.

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But go ahead.

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My name is Ben Matthewson.

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I work as an analyst at the KCRHA.

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Members of the Council, you hold a vital role in ensuring and shaping the future of regionalism

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in King County.

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As workforce adjustments and restructuring decisions occur, the central priority must be preserving

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institutional knowledge, lived experience, and operational capacity to keep this system running.

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Budget reductions are inevitable, but protecting frontline capabilities, including severe weather response

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coordination, data governance and management, federal grant administration, contract monitoring and compliance

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system navigation and on-butt's function is the only way to ensure our region maintains and continues to improve.

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It's homelessness response. A shrewd fiscal e-responsible approach to budget contractions is one that prioritizes direct operational value.

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Demonstrating to the public that King County values frontline competence over administrative overhead

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restores faith in our public institutions. Reform is never about blindly turning from the bottom up.

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It is about having the courage and the discipline to occasionally trim from the top down.

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Accountability from Leadership is essential in order to predict our experience to data-driven workforce

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and demonstrates to the public that King County values operational competence and fiscal efficiency

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over executive overhead. The workers at KCRHA remain fully committed to the vision of a unified,

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equitable and effective regional homelessness response, and we ask the committee-

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The whole to recognize the value of the people behind the products to protect the frontline infrastructure

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of regionalism. And to help us ensure that every public dollar continues to serve the members

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of our communities who rely on us. Thank you.

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Thank you.

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That's the last person I have. It has raised a hand.

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Thank you. I'll do one more check if you're trying to put up a comment and you have

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to have an opportunity to do so. Please use the raise hand function in Zoom.

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not seeing any further requests for public comments. We will close public comment and start

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with our agenda.

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colleagues, we're going to start with the first item, which would confirm an appointment to the

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King County landmarks commission.

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King County established landmarks commission to ensure preservation of the region's historic

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places, material culture, and traditions for future generations.

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We will be briefed on the side and by Brandon Perrevel, who's half of Leah, who is not here

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today.

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Then I will ask for any input from Sarah Steen from the King County Historic Preservation Program,

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and then we will hear from our appointee.

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Good morning, Chair Baudone and Council members for the record.

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My name is Brandy Parabelo with Council's central staff.

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The staff report for this item begins on page 8 of your packets and materials for the

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appointee were sent out simultaneously with your packets on Friday.

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As brief background on this item, landmark commissioners are responsible for the designation

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and regulation of landmark properties.

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Representation of suburban cities with interlocal agreements with King County and advice to the executive and the council on King County landmarks issues.

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Funding for the landmark program is available from the cultural development fund.

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Membership consists of nine members and is comprised of volunteers with expertise in areas such as architecture, art, land use, historic preservation, archaeology, education and history.

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No more than four members may reside in any one municipal jurisdiction, and commissioners are appointed to three year terms.

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Collin Carter is our appointee today, and he's an associate planner for the City of Kirkland, who serves as the city's primary contact for historic preservation.

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He's also a member of the Kirkland Heritage Society.

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Staff have not identified any issues with the proposed appointment and it appears to be consistent with the requirements of King County Code.

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And that concludes my remarks.

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I'd be happy to try to answer any questions.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Randy.

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Any questions for staff?

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All right.

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Seeing none, I'm going to call on Sarah Steen from our King County Historic Preservation

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Program.

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Sarah, anything like that.

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Hi.

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Thank you, Katsumabra.

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I just want to say that we're excited to have Colin on board.

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We've been working with him since he was actually at UW.

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He did the Barthouse nomination as a school project in Kirkland, which is a working class

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house. It's one of the few left in that neighborhood. I needed an excellent job with that.

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So we've been working with him really both before he was a planner and as a planner. And we're

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really excited to have him joining us on the commission. Thank you very much. Well now it's time to hear

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from the appointee. So I'm going to ask Mr. Carter to come join us at the table here for a quick yes.

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Thank you very much. Welcome and thank you for your interest in serving.

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We will be gentle here, so thank you, Mr. Carter.

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Appreciate your interest in serving and could you share a little bit with the committee about your interest in serving in this role?

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Yes, absolutely. Good morning, Chair and the remainder of the committee. It counts only yes.

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I'm honored to have this opportunity to serve on the Landmarks Commission.

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And now more than ever, it's important that we preserve not only the places but the stories

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that these places, structures and objects possess throughout King County as Sarah

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Steen had mentioned.

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I've had the opportunity to collaborate with King County staff to actually nominate and successfully

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designate the last structure within the city of Kirkland to designate its status, preserving

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not only the working-class history, associated agricultural railroad history,

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and so that's

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kind of a story of how I actually got into it. What started as a simple school project, like

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many others, and the historic preservation realm, you sort of just fall into it rather than

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dedicated track from childhood, I would say.

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But throughout the years of now serving

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as the city of Kirkland contact for homeowners,

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developers and others that are interested

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in the historic preservation programs, not only the city,

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but the county, I've seen the challenges

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that potential historic preservation poses the conversations,

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maybe on how it limits development and the demand

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for housing.

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And so, kind of taking all of that, I think I have a very pragmatic and I would say, well-rounded, understanding

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of historic preservation within the county. So there's just a long-winded answer, but I'm, you know, I can keep

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talking very excited about all the facets of it. Thank you very much, Mr. Karra. Appreciate it, colleagues.

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We have any questions for the pointy. See, none. I'm going to ask Council member of the Bowski as the Council member from

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issue 1 to put this item before us, it's proposed motion 2026-0185.

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Move adoption with the do pass recommendations.

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Thank you very much, that motion is before us, any final comments before we take a vote?

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Her shade you're willing us to serve.

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Thank you, and I will ask the clerk to please call the roll.

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Thank you, Chair.

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Councilmember Bellducci.

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Councilmember Jim Balske.

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Councilmember Dunn.

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Councilmember Fain.

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Councilmember Lewis.

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Council Member Mosqueta.

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Council Member Perry.

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Council Member Van Rijkbauer.

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Chair about him.

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Yes.

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Seven aye.

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Zero nose and no one else pardon me.

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Council members.

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Bell duty and pay.

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Thank you very much.

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By our vote, we have approved proposed motion 2026-0185.

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Unless there are any objections, we will send this motion with a

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do best recommendation for the consent agenda on the regular course.

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Thank you very much. Congratulations Collin. Again, thank you for your willingness to serve.

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This will be on the agenda for the full council, but you do not need to appear.

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Of course, you can always come if you want to, but no need for you to appear.

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Thank you again for your willingness to serve.

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Wonderful. Collin's will move to the next item, which is item 6.

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This would approve the 2026-2029 Equal Employment Opportunity Affirmative Action Plan, which is a four year plan.

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the county uses as an informational resource to provide an overview of the county's key efforts

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relating to equal employment opportunity. We will be briefed on the side and by Eric

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and Newman, and I will note that we're not going to take action on the side, because there's

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still some legal issues, but I thought it was important as a significant multi-year plan to have

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at least an initial touch on the side. So, Erica, we'll turn over to you.

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Thank you, Mr. Chair, Erica Newman, Council Central Staff, the items for proposed ordinance

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2026-0147, begin on page 14 of your packet.

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The proposed ordinance would adopt the 2026-2029 Equal Employment Opportunity and Affirmative

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Action Plan.

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The plan is covers the executive departments, as well as Department of Assessments, Department

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of elections and the prosecuting attorney's office under code, the executive is to submit the

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new plan by June 1st of every fourth year, which began in 2018, and then the council

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has until or before January 1st should either approve modified or rejected via ordinance.

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The first plan was adopted by Council on 1995.

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The current plan was adopted in December 2022.

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And the, I'm sorry, in the EO, the plan outlines

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goals and objectives to attract and retain

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of our workforce that reflects the community, and so the proposed plan includes information

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related to county workforce statistics, implementation plans for departments, in a summary

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of the prior e-quompliment opportunity plan, but if you want to go into the parts where we

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can get into more detail, begin and on page 48 of your packet, it starts to talk about placement

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goals for the plan period for 2026, 2029, as well as the implementation plans.

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And the

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on page 48 it does state that

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the implementation plan including job categories for persons

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of color and women and the goals were based on King County workforce availability from the 2020 population.

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And there were underrepresentation found in the King County workforce.

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Department are planning to make good faith efforts to address these areas during the 2026-2029 plan.

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The implementation,

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the department's plan for implementing the plan is creating a new plan and analyzing results from a prior plan.

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And, beginning on page 38 of your pack of the plan, but page 60 of the packet, our goals, goals and highlights from the 2022-25 plan, it showed that 806% had a workforce that was consistent with the availability of people of color or women,

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with requisite jobs skills in King County, the remaining 14 percent, where the percentage

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of people of color and women were underrepresented when compared with those qualified

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and available in the workforce,

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moving on to a page 61 includes achievements, executive

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departments did acknowledge that they faced a variety of ongoing recruitment challenges

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during the prior plan period and placement goals were for the most part they were achieved

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across all departments.

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The highlights are those are the highlights and the executive

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remains that they are going to reiterate in advance the county's commitment to equal employment

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opportunity diversity equity inclusion and belonging. The proposed ordinance was transmitted

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on time there are no direct fiscal impacts on county expenditures or revenues and federal regulations

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related to this item have very recently changed and therefore legal analysis of those impacts are

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ongoing. We do have Gloria Ingasel, the King County workforce equity manager from Department

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of Human Resources available to answer any additional questions. Mr Chair, that concludes my remarks.

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Thank you very much.

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Colleagues and E questions on this item.

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Council Member Lewis.

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Thank you, Chair.

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Thank you, Erica, for that staff report.

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I have a couple of questions and they may be questions for executive staff.

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The first question is how are the EID managers, equity, inclusion and belonging managers,

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involved in the creation updating of this report, and the other question, I'll ask it now,

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maybe answered later, but as I read the report, there was a lot in the report about

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recruitment and retention, and I'm interested in where the report addresses advancement

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for people of color, women of people of color,

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and also how it addresses the recommendations

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of the Black women's experience study

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that the county invested quite a bit of resource

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in having that done.

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Good.

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This is Gloria.

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Can you hear me?

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We can not hear you very clearly.

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We can just barely hear you.

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Okay, I'm having some technical difficulty.

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No, no, we can hear you better.

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I think we up the volume here.

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Go ahead.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Chair.

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Thank you.

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Council members.

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The first question as it relates to engaging EID managers.

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We did not engage the EID managers,

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and since we started, if this is going to be important to me.

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As we started to plan, the EID classification is in the classification, in crafting the

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plant within that engagement EID manager, but in ongoing efforts to continue to diversify

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workforce through our advisory committee, the EEO advisory committee, there are ongoing

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conversations that includes conversations with the HM managers and EID managers in terms

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of implementation, and making sure that not only are we meeting our hiring retention goals,

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but we are also looking into data that is ongoing because we pull that data on in quarterly

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basis. And so advisory committee members, they do have those very different meetings to continue

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to make sure that department is being held accountable to the efforts that we put forth in this

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and that both HR manager are involved in the EAB managers are also informed in forming

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gross implementation efforts. I can say that moving forward as we continue to make

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improvement. We will definitely make sure that we are engaged in the EAB managers, although

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I would say that for the most part, really.

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Thank you very much for that. Would you mind identifying yourself for the record, because we're seeing.

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My name is Gloria, I was last name and I am the King County Workforce Agreement manager in the Department of Human Resources.

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Thank you very much.

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Colleagues, any additional questions?

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As I noted, we're not going to take action on the side.

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And the one thing that I did note from the report that I wanted to make sure that we recognize

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is that one of the areas that we have, I would say,

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backtracked as a county workforce in the past few years has been the issue of gender.

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And the percentage of our workforce who identifies women is going,

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I would say, in the wrong direction.

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So I think that's what the data shows.

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There's no kind of controversy about that,

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but I just wanted to highlight that.

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And I urge the executive branch and something

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that I think we want to monitor closely and perhaps

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when we take action, I would love to hear from our executive

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branch specifically on that issue and what steps we're

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taking to reverse that trend.

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There's some of that in the report,

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but I think it would be great to hear a little bit more on that.

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Next, next month, when we take action on the item,

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Councilor Roskell, I see your hand up as well.

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Thank you so much, Sergeant.

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It was a little bit choppy.

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Did you see that the equity inclusion of the law

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in being was not something?

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Not in the crafting of the plan,

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but in the ongoing implementation,

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And yes, we are consulting with them on a regular basis.

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Okay, and continue for Lewis.

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I said ask the question I was wondering about regarding the Blackwood and experience

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at King County.

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And colleagues, if you haven't seen that report recently or read it.

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I think it would be so that's all to see how this submission correlates with the report.

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Council member Lewis noted prior to considering this in the next meeting.

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I need to bring down copies of them today.

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Thank you, Councillor Mermoske.

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And again, this item will come back to us.

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So we have further opportunities to ask questions in the meantime before we sign off on it.

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I don't see, I think, Councillor Mermoske, that's your old hand.

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I believe, unless you have an additional question.

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Old hand.

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Old hand, all right.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you, colleague.

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So as I mentioned, legal review of this item is still in process.

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So we're going to defer action until that meeting of the committee on September 22nd.

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With that, we will move on on our agenda.

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Thank you.

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Our next two items are related to the King County Regional Homeless Authority.

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First, we have a briefing from executive staff and then followed by briefing from the

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case you're a chase staff on the case you're a contract transition plan and then the overview

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of the corrective action plan.

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We're going to be hearing initially from Hayok Kim, Chief Operating Officer of the Executive

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Office, Jelani Jackson, who's the Acting Director of the Housing and Community Development

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Division at DCHS, and Aaron Rupert, the Chief Budget Officer from the Executive Office,

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and then I'll introduce our case here at Chase Staff, when we get to that panel.

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I do want to just remind us how what this briefing stems from this briefing is the result

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of motion 16, 9, 7, 0, which I sponsor a Council Member Spain and the Bowsky and which the

466
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Council adopted unanimously on May 5th.

467
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After forensic evaluation led by Clark Lubber and released in April, exposed series

468
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weaknesses in case here, it just is a financial management and internal controls.

469
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That motion has the executive to provide a report on the future of the authority and a

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steps being taken to address the findings of the forensic evaluation by August 1st.

471
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And I appreciate that the executive

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are complied with that request.

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In the months since they have been

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additional developments on July 1st,

475
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the executive on the mayor of Seattle

476
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announced a plan to stabilize

477
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right-size and reset case of your chain,

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including the transition of most locally

479
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funded contracts back to the city

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and the county respectively,

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and we'll hear more details on that in a second.

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As I noted, the executive delivered

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the report request that actually

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they had advanced on the 31st,

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July 31st, probably because it's on

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the first versus Saturday.

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Today gives us the chance to hear

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about the executors to recommend the steps regarding the authority, the status of the contract

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transition plan, and the status of the correct and corrective action plan, the case

490
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you're a chase implementing after hearing from the executors team, we will hear from case

491
00:34:45,230 --> 00:34:46,570
you're a chase leadership directly.

492
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Thank you, and I'm going to turn it over to see you again.

493
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Thank you so much for the record.

494
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My name is Hayo Kim.

495
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She's operating officer for Executive Zahalai.

496
00:34:59,520 --> 00:34:59,960
Cheer up.

497
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Aurel, members of the committee, thank you so much for having us here. As you mentioned, the executive delivered a report to you all, the report is fairly extensive. I think in the details.

498
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And so, Aaron Jelani and myself are here to provide an overview of what was contained in that report and to be able to answer any questions.

499
00:35:25,340 --> 00:35:31,620
As you, I think, Chair Barron, you kind of took my top line.

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In July, the executive and mayor announced next steps to stabilize right-size and reset

501
00:35:40,460 --> 00:35:43,340
our King County Regional Homelessness Authority.

502
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The joint plan focused on stabilizing right-sizing and resetting K-Cerry Chase future.

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So today, we will be speaking mostly about the stabilizing and right-sizing approach.

504
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The work to reset the future of case RHA is going to be ongoing for the next several months.

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And we are committed to working with this body as well as the legislative body over at the city,

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and the case RHA governing board in conjunction with CEO Kenison and her team to ensure an extensive stakeholder process,

507
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but that has not yet been launched quite yet.

508
00:36:23,240 --> 00:36:31,280
The county and the city remain committed to, sorry, just last night, she, she,

509
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a regional response to homelessness and to strengthening KCRIJ so that it can fulfill

510
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its responsibilities. Some of the guiding principles really defining and informing this

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work is that providing high quality shelter services and housing to our region's most

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vulnerable community members should not be disrupted.

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That creating clear pathways for individuals to exit from homelessness to shelter and services

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and to long-term housing is our North Star and should be our North Star and that understanding

515
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homelessness as a regional issue that requires coordination and collaboration with government

516
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:19,020
partners across King County should be bedrock to how we think about the future of the work.

517
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And so, as you will hear from Johny and from Erin, some of the key considerations that both

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the executive and the mayor embarked upon in making the decision to transition the contracts,

519
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:41,840
the county contracts, and the city contracts, some of the key considerations that they had

520
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were that protecting federal funding for this region was absolutely critical, as you all

521
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You know, this year we are looking at about $67 million in federal funds that funnel through

522
00:37:55,700 --> 00:38:02,660
our continuum of care to serve the most vulnerable residents in our community.

523
00:38:03,860 --> 00:38:10,480
That is $67 million that cannot be easily replaced by either the county or the city

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or state partners.

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Another key consideration for us was minimizing service disruption for clients and providers was

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absolutely critical. We know that this is not a transition that's going to be easy, but we really

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really wanted to ensure that we were taking pains to listen to our service providers to understand

528
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how to ensure a smooth transition. And you will hear Jalani speak to that a little bit. And then again,

529
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The regional reset conversations, although not quite yet launched, are going to be our approach

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to understanding and to hearing from a diverse set of stakeholders to so that we maintain

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a regional approach to homelessness. And I think that is critical that it is both the King County

532
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and the mayor who have expressed that commitment at their July press conference. That commitment

533
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has we have reiterated that commitment in the report.

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The written report that was handed to the council and we are here to, again, emphasize that

535
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the regional approach to homelessness is one that the executive and the mayor are committed

536
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to and that the regional reset conversations will help inform the recommendations that come

537
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from that.

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So with that, I'm going to turn it over to Erin.

539
00:39:36,820 --> 00:39:41,540
Thank you for the record Aaron Rubart, Chief Budget Officer in King County Executive Office.

540
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:48,860
So I'm going to talk a little bit about Stabilizing KCRA, really with a focus on financial processes and the financial work that's going on.

541
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One of the key efforts to Stabilize KCRA is really embedding an external financial consultant.

542
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:59,960
that's turning point, strategic plans, just strategic partners, they're under

543
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Contract until the end of the year. They're looking at a few specific things in their scope of work. So, an assessment of the K-C-R-H-A financial operations by being embedded, working closely with the organization, they're working through that issue right now. Financial stabilization and oversight and providing that. So, as additional financial transactions come in, starting to review those, kind of an over-the-shoulder look for K-C-R-H-A understanding of what the financial transactions are, making sure they're appropriate, appropriate, making sure

544
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of their following internal controls and procedures that have been documented.

545
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Accounting reconciliation and financial remediation, the Accounting reconciliation is complex.

546
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There are thousands of transactions that have happened over the last five years.

547
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There's multiple systems that have been involved.

548
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So they are going through that at a very detailed level and starting to figure out exactly

549
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what has happened in the past and will eventually be able to provide the county executive

550
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to the County Council and the K-C-R-H-A, an assessment of where the dollars have been spent,

551
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:05,960
what is unreconsiled and what we need to do moving forward.

552
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So that is a complex and time-consuming effort, but they are doing that now and making

553
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good progress in my opinion.

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Contract administration support, so as new contracts come in, how do we administer them,

555
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:23,600
how do we document our practices that are working through that as well.

556
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,860
but also advising on stabilization moving forward.

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We've asked them as part of their scope of work

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to help develop proposals on the size

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of the organization moving forward

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and financial process and procedures

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that should be embedded moving forward.

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00:41:38,740 --> 00:41:40,460
So turning point, strategic partners

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are working through all of that.

564
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We have weekly meetings with the finance teams.

565
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They also are reporting out to the finance committee

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periodically and to the executive sponsors group.

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So I am feeling pretty confident

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in where they are and where they're going, but there's still a lot more work to do with the

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strategic partners. They've been embedded since July. They're going to be there until the end

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of the year and we'll have to assess the next steps from there. I just want to say some of the

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things that I'm really looking for from them and want to be really clear is reconciliation of the

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accounts. We need to understand the details of those accounts. They're working towards that.

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We need to start seeing improvement in the negative cash balance at the investment pool.

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And we need to start seeing cycle times for this invoicing process to go down.

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That lag time is really driving some of our issues.

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00:42:30,380 --> 00:42:34,960
So those are some of the things that I'm really looking for from turning point and from KCRHA.

577
00:42:36,620 --> 00:42:41,060
Thank you, Herr. And I apologize for not naming you in the beginning when we're calling people over.

578
00:42:41,240 --> 00:42:44,700
I apologize to Mr. Tudon. My notes. Thank you. Tell me.

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There's a lot of Jackson, an acting director of the Housing and Community Development Division in DCHS.

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00:42:52,060 --> 00:42:55,360
Case RHA will retain its core regional responsibilities.

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These functions are the backbone of our region's homelessness service system.

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As contracts transition back to the city of Seattle on King County, KCRHA can focus its

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efforts on its key functions like the point in time count, our region severe weather response,

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coordinated entry, and most importantly being the lead agency for all continuum of care

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00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:16,640
activities for King County.

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00:43:18,020 --> 00:43:23,780
The Housing and Community Development Division of DCHS will be ready to administer up to 100 contracts

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00:43:23,780 --> 00:43:25,720
starting in January, 2027.

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00:43:29,700 --> 00:43:33,580
Extending existing contracts will provide consistency for providers through the transition

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00:43:34,180 --> 00:43:37,760
in this way they can focus on delivering the services our region needs.

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00:43:38,500 --> 00:43:43,860
HCD staff will anticipate that a small portion of contracts will likely stay with KCRHA.

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00:43:44,540 --> 00:43:48,220
Work to determine the exact number of contracts and the corresponding cost is ongoing.

592
00:43:48,220 --> 00:43:55,320
From the contract transition timeline, you can see this is a month by month.

593
00:43:55,320 --> 00:44:00,300
So macro overview, that's a very high level overview of the work that DCHS and HSD.

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We'll conduct from now on to the end of the year.

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Our operations are underway to ensure DCHS is ready to take on this body of work.

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00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:15,500
As noted in table two of the KCRHA contract transition plan,

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00:44:15,900 --> 00:44:20,160
we are adding 10 career service FTE who will be tasked with monitoring contracts,

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00:44:20,720 --> 00:44:22,400
fiscal or compliance related work.

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00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:28,200
To ensure DCHS, we'll meet a tiring timeline, we onboarded one, temporary term-limited human

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00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:29,640
resource and list in July.

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Through the end of the year, DCHS will be focused on hiring, training, and preparing

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00:44:34,220 --> 00:44:37,620
our staff for the successful transfer of contracts starting in January.

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00:44:38,820 --> 00:44:43,660
The City of Seattle's Human Services Department and DCHS have hosted two meetings with providers

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from across the county, are growing in-vit list, including more than 50 providers and represents

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00:44:48,740 --> 00:44:54,400
the full spectrum of homelessness services. During these meetings, King County staff have shared

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00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:59,020
timely updates with the community and answered questions. These joint meetings will continue

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through the end of the year.

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00:45:00,460 --> 00:45:05,620
The county and the city are committed to ensuring there is no interruption to services or provider payments.

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00:45:06,380 --> 00:45:13,500
Finally, work to reduce the burden on our contractors has begun. HSD and DCHS will continue to work through 2027.

610
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:23,900
DCHS has decades of experience managing complex homelessness and housing investments, including many of the contracts that will transition from KCRIJ back to DCHS.

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00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:30,440
Prior to the creation of KCRIJ, the Housing and Community Development Division of DCHS successfully administered many

612
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,960
federal and locally funded contracts with providers throughout King County.

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00:45:36,930 --> 00:45:44,810
Great, and so then that takes us to the future of KCRHA and as the executive and the

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00:45:44,810 --> 00:45:52,890
mayor indicated their July press conference and that was as indicated in the written report

615
00:45:52,890 --> 00:45:59,670
that we provided, we do plan to embark on a series of extensive stakeholder conversations.

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00:46:01,290 --> 00:46:08,010
the list of council, I'm sorry, the list of stakeholders and kind of interests are identified

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on this just for, I think, just to illustrate the breadth of stakeholders, but it's certainly

618
00:46:14,850 --> 00:46:21,190
not an exhaustive list. And really, we are looking at this, these regional reset conversations

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in sort of three phases. We are going to identify an initial group of pre and individual

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00:46:29,450 --> 00:46:37,170
to have pre-engagement conversations with, and those pre-engagement conversations will help

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inform the engagements, the more extensive engagements that we plan to take.

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And the questions that we are really posing are really, I think, fundamental to what prompted

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00:46:49,390 --> 00:46:57,930
KCRHA to begin with, what were some of the gaps in our regional services that KCRHA was

624
00:46:57,930 --> 00:47:05,610
to address and why, you know, were some of those promises or were some of those solutions

625
00:47:05,610 --> 00:47:13,550
ever, did they ever materialize, you know, why or why not? I think what we wanted to do

626
00:47:13,550 --> 00:47:19,630
was not get into the weeds of the tactical sort of what the structure, but really ask more fundamental

627
00:47:19,630 --> 00:47:27,550
strategic questions around how should a regional homelessness system and what does that regional

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00:47:27,550 --> 00:47:33,550
coordination, what should it look like, and what's missing, even in its current state today.

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The synthesizing of information will then take place and finally, recommendations will

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be delivered.

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The all of this work is expected to be completed by the end of the first quarter of next year.

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00:47:48,190 --> 00:47:54,630
And again, as I mentioned earlier, we plan to and have already spoken to some of the K-Sari

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00:47:54,630 --> 00:48:00,750
governing board members, certainly CEO, Kinnison, and her team to ensure that these are

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00:48:00,750 --> 00:48:07,010
conversations that we hold together with KCRHA. As the same time and extensive stakeholder

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00:48:07,010 --> 00:48:13,850
work will include people who have been critics. We need to listen to what those critics have

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00:48:13,850 --> 00:48:19,910
said. We need to understand what the gaps are and what the problems are in order to inform the

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00:48:19,910 --> 00:48:27,030
the future of K-Sari J. So with that, we are happy to answer any questions that you may have.

638
00:48:27,410 --> 00:48:30,230
Thank you very much. I know you're going to have a lot of questions coming your way.

639
00:48:30,390 --> 00:48:35,970
Let me just start off with one because this is kind of one of the central things in the motion that we sent over to

640
00:48:35,970 --> 00:48:39,850
Executive and it is answering the report, but we didn't really tackle it verbally.

641
00:48:41,110 --> 00:48:47,910
And one of the questions that we asked was a recommendation from the Executive on whether to take action at this point to

642
00:48:47,910 --> 00:48:55,070
to solve case-ary-ch, could you elaborate a little bit on the recommendation that the executive

643
00:48:55,070 --> 00:48:56,010
sent over in the report?

644
00:48:56,610 --> 00:49:03,010
I do believe that in our cover note, the executive respectfully requested at this time that

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any motion to dissolve case-ary-ch be paused and held in a bias.

646
00:49:08,690 --> 00:49:16,070
Until we have the executive and the mayor have the time to go through these regional reset

647
00:49:16,070 --> 00:49:40,150
conversations. And I think, you know, fundamentally the executive's position is that before we have a clear answer for how we are going to answer the question of what's next, that we should not initiate dissolution efforts, because I think that is going to be fundamentally disruptive to the existing staff.

648
00:49:40,150 --> 00:49:47,810
I think the second mayor felt that fundamentally the transition of contracts were in and of themselves.

649
00:49:48,170 --> 00:49:55,970
The significant lift and they really wanted to focus on that as the in this stage.

650
00:49:57,010 --> 00:49:59,970
And I think the more

651
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Motion to dissolve or efforts to dissolve K-Sareche. Until we have a clear answer on what the next question

652
00:50:08,780 --> 00:50:15,980
is, could be also demoralizing to the existing staff that still will remain with K-Sareche,

653
00:50:17,100 --> 00:50:22,980
and that are fundamentally needed to continue to implement our continuum of care dollars,

654
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as well as some of the other regional services that will remain at K-Sareche.

655
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:29,780
Thank you very much.

656
00:50:30,260 --> 00:50:36,200
Colleagues, questions, comments, and a reminder that we are going to have a follow-up

657
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presentation regarding the corrective action plan from Kissier and Che leadership.

658
00:50:39,740 --> 00:50:42,940
But I think a lot of enough questions, Council Member Dunn.

659
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:44,000
Thanks.

660
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:44,720
Thanks for being here.

661
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:46,040
Appreciate your work on this.

662
00:50:46,780 --> 00:50:48,060
Obviously, an important issue.

663
00:50:48,500 --> 00:50:54,020
I personally believe that this issue of homelessness generally is the premier local issue of

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our generation.

665
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,200
I think it's a really tough nut to crack.

666
00:50:58,240 --> 00:51:00,560
And a 600-word editorial in the Seattle Times

667
00:51:00,560 --> 00:51:02,640
doesn't really necessarily give it justice

668
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,360
as I wrote the other day and then anyone who writes

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in that editorial knows that the Seattle Times

670
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:09,000
continues to own the headline.

671
00:51:09,220 --> 00:51:11,300
They will write the headline however they want to write it, right?

672
00:51:11,340 --> 00:51:11,640
It's catchy.

673
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So they said we should something do the fact

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of turn our back on housing first.

675
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,460
Now I would not have written that that way.

676
00:51:18,540 --> 00:51:19,760
I would have written it differently.

677
00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:23,100
And I want to talk about it for a second.

678
00:51:23,100 --> 00:51:29,100
But if we look at this issue, there's about half a dozen ways.

679
00:51:29,340 --> 00:51:33,700
We could responsibly structure our homelessness response in King County.

680
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One way is to put a regional organization together like we did at the Council, Rod and I

681
00:51:39,660 --> 00:51:41,320
were involved in some of that.

682
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:45,180
Others, others, we can bring an in-house into the jurisdictions, we can do partnerships, we

683
00:51:45,180 --> 00:51:48,140
could do private sector work, there's a lot of different models across the country.

684
00:51:48,700 --> 00:51:53,040
And I think, and I've been a tough critic case here at IHA, but it is a result of action

685
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:54,280
of this council, interestingly.

686
00:51:55,620 --> 00:51:58,840
So we found that there's some challenges there, and we're retooling it.

687
00:51:58,900 --> 00:51:59,460
I commend that.

688
00:51:59,660 --> 00:52:00,880
I think that's great.

689
00:52:01,220 --> 00:52:06,420
I think the executive shows leadership and coming in and in changing its focus a little.

690
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:08,000
But that's, I think that's good.

691
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:15,640
I still think, as they say, the system is perfectly designed right now to get the results

692
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,060
it is currently achieving,

693
00:52:19,780 --> 00:52:22,440
and that'll be the same if we just move the deck chairs around.

694
00:52:23,740 --> 00:52:29,420
Without a substantial shift in the policy focus that underlies what we're trying to do

695
00:52:29,420 --> 00:52:36,340
to reduce homelessness. And so, you know, there's this crazy political dynamic out there. It's

696
00:52:36,340 --> 00:52:41,360
all housing first, or it's all, you know, mental health and behavioral health and substance

697
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:46,200
is recovery. The truth, I think, and you guys have all two are playing a homeless

698
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,480
camps that a lot of friends who've been homeless and no people and work with it.

699
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:54,000
The truth is, their multiple pathways to get people off the streets, we need all those

700
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:58,680
strategies and toolbox, right? I think we need all of them. I don't think we should get rid

701
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:02,520
of housing first. Completely, I think what I think we should do is think about a bunch of

702
00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:08,820
levers, policy levers, right? Let's dial down some of the resources going to that traditional

703
00:53:08,820 --> 00:53:14,180
housing first model and reallocate that and drug and alcohol addiction, mental and

704
00:53:14,180 --> 00:53:21,200
health job training. I think that's where we should, we should be going. We got a brand new

705
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:25,680
executive, right? Great executive is out in my district last night. We were speaking together

706
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:32,060
having a good time. And one of the things he's going to be judged on for four years is what

707
00:53:32,060 --> 00:53:36,100
has happened with homeless with a trajectory of homelessness. It's a empirical data point.

708
00:53:38,300 --> 00:53:38,800
He's

709
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:45,200
see minus whatever it is, I just don't see how you can get a different, achieve a different

710
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:49,820
result simply by altering the management structure. It's got to address the underlying

711
00:53:49,820 --> 00:53:55,740
policies. And so that's my question to you. To what extent are you willing to think about

712
00:53:55,740 --> 00:54:01,440
changing the underlying policies we are using to attack homelessness moving forward?

713
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:03,500
Is that a part of this conversation?

714
00:54:05,750 --> 00:54:08,990
I think certainly those conversations will be had during

715
00:54:08,990 --> 00:54:12,010
the regional reset conversations, I will also say,

716
00:54:12,010 --> 00:54:15,450
Council Member Dunn, the executive has three years.

717
00:54:16,230 --> 00:54:17,190
Doesn't have four years.

718
00:54:17,890 --> 00:54:21,970
And so the sense of urgency, his reelection is in three years

719
00:54:21,970 --> 00:54:25,950
not four, the sense of urgency that he has on this problem

720
00:54:25,950 --> 00:54:28,910
is absolutely matches your passion for this.

721
00:54:29,550 --> 00:54:34,550
I will say this, I think the executive has the kind of all,

722
00:54:35,270 --> 00:54:37,530
utilizing all the tools that you just mentioned,

723
00:54:39,050 --> 00:54:43,410
is an approach that he empirically has also embarked upon.

724
00:54:44,190 --> 00:54:47,030
He was the leader when the council passed,

725
00:54:47,310 --> 00:54:50,470
you're sort of unprecedented crisis care levy.

726
00:54:51,050 --> 00:54:52,850
That is a, you know, it's a new tool

727
00:54:52,850 --> 00:54:56,750
in the toolbox to address substance use disorder

728
00:54:56,750 --> 00:54:58,350
in so many communities.

729
00:54:59,390 --> 00:54:59,950
The fact that

730
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:08,120
Among the first things that the executive prioritized when he came into office was 500 units in 500 days.

731
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:15,480
Those units, we are looking at a full range of housing type and really emphasizing shelter.

732
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:22,120
The executive has also launched his breaking the cycle work group that is asking the urgent question,

733
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:31,200
Even though the population is not, you know, the, as expansive as our broader homelessness population, the breaking the cycle work group,

734
00:55:31,460 --> 00:55:38,800
is looking at the population of individuals that have, that show up in multiple systems.

735
00:55:39,420 --> 00:55:44,220
And for whom all of those systems have not addressed their needs, right?

736
00:55:44,220 --> 00:55:46,500
these are the criminal justice systems,

737
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:48,900
this is the substance abuse,

738
00:55:48,900 --> 00:55:50,560
you know, dealing substance abuse disorders,

739
00:55:50,900 --> 00:55:52,660
individuals who are, you know,

740
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:53,840
have been in and out of shelters.

741
00:55:54,420 --> 00:55:55,960
And right now, I think the executive

742
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:59,120
by acknowledging that, you know,

743
00:55:59,180 --> 00:56:01,580
our systems are not working for everyone,

744
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:03,900
the breaking the cycle work group, we are confident.

745
00:56:04,540 --> 00:56:07,440
We'll come up with some recommendations

746
00:56:07,980 --> 00:56:11,140
that really zero in on those strategic questions

747
00:56:11,140 --> 00:56:18,520
of why isn't the system that all of us have had a hand in designing, working for these individuals.

748
00:56:19,460 --> 00:56:25,300
So I think there's a multitude of strategies that the executive is looking at.

749
00:56:25,580 --> 00:56:29,420
And the future of KCRHA is just one of those.

750
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:38,060
So I don't know that we would, like you said, agree with the headline, but certainly the executive

751
00:56:38,060 --> 00:56:45,350
is not taking a let's just do what we've always done approach. He is asking all of us to

752
00:56:46,380 --> 00:56:51,480
challenge our assumptions about what's worked before and to work with a great sense of urgency

753
00:56:51,480 --> 00:56:55,680
on the issue of homelessness. That's great. And that's a good place to start. I mean, I can't disagree

754
00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:59,320
at all with that. In fact, the fact we're having this conversation is a great place to start. He's

755
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:02,820
looking at the structure, which is the first thing you got to do and then you got to get to the

756
00:57:02,820 --> 00:57:17,380
I know everybody at KCRHA and everybody in the housing industrial non-profit sector that we have working very hard are doing good work and they're trying very hard.

757
00:57:17,740 --> 00:57:22,480
I don't question their intentions. Everybody's trying.

758
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:26,680
I just see the results of the number of unannounced on our streets getting worse and worse and worse.

759
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:34,940
So, I think that it's not unreasonable to question not only the structure, but also the policies.

760
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:38,880
And I really encourage, I know we all have that talking point in our head.

761
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:42,720
Well, it's empirically proven that housing first reduces homelessness.

762
00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,240
Well, it's not out here, not at all.

763
00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:49,680
In fact, last year we were the worst in the country and the aggregate number of homelessness in the state,

764
00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:50,820
and the most of it's in King County.

765
00:57:51,080 --> 00:57:51,720
Can't argue with that.

766
00:57:51,900 --> 00:57:53,200
Worst, worst out of 50.

767
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:57,000
And so some of these nonprofits and other groups

768
00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:00,180
might be disappointed that we change priorities

769
00:58:00,180 --> 00:58:03,100
over the next months and years

770
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:05,400
to emphasize other areas.

771
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:07,500
It doesn't mean they're not a profit won't be involved

772
00:58:07,500 --> 00:58:09,300
in the work that we'll be doing for that.

773
00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:10,980
I just want to be clear about that.

774
00:58:11,080 --> 00:58:15,120
I hope that you consider policies shifts.

775
00:58:15,340 --> 00:58:17,140
I think you will find if you do

776
00:58:17,140 --> 00:58:18,820
and you model them after best practices

777
00:58:18,820 --> 00:58:23,080
that are proven to work across the country, that we will start to have positive results.

778
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:27,240
That's all, and I will support you in those efforts, if you choose to go there.

779
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:30,840
Thank you, Councillor Mouradun.

780
00:58:32,140 --> 00:58:37,200
Councillor Mouradun, I just wanted to engage a little bit here along the lines of Councillor

781
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:42,460
Member Duns statement and just put a little detail on it if I might.

782
00:58:45,180 --> 00:58:50,460
With respect to the results, I mean, this is from the most recent point in time.

783
00:58:50,460 --> 00:58:55,160
in account from KCRHA from 2022 to 2022 to 26 total homelessness

784
00:58:55,160 --> 00:59:01,120
in King County is up 37% from 13,300 folks to 18,300.

785
00:59:01,900 --> 00:59:07,400
Unsheltered homelessness is up from 2022 to 20,2654%

786
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:12,520
from 7600 folks to 11,800 folks.

787
00:59:12,660 --> 00:59:12,760
OK?

788
00:59:17,320 --> 00:59:23,020
Our emergency shelter beds are down from 2025 to 20,26 by 689.

789
00:59:23,020 --> 00:59:31,700
And unsheltered family homelessness is up 78% from 1253 to 2200 families.

790
00:59:32,540 --> 00:59:36,540
So Council Member Duns Point about what we're doing isn't working is correct.

791
00:59:37,620 --> 00:59:42,520
He is suggested in his outfit and elsewhere that when things aren't working with our

792
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:47,280
current policy, we might want to reflect on the policy and quit saying that it's evidence-based

793
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:51,560
and that it's delivering the results because I agree with you, Reagan.

794
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:59,920
it's not. So there's work to do there. This discussion is around how we do it.

795
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:04,440
Let's remember, done has ideas. I've got ideas. Council member Fain has, I just every member on the

796
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:10,340
dice and the executive has policy ideas, and that's what we were sent here to do. And the problem

797
01:00:10,340 --> 01:00:16,640
with the King County Regional Homeless Authority is, it takes seven policy makers on

798
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:23,920
this dice out of the game. We send two over. And the executive, the city of Seattle sends two over

799
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:28,340
and the mayor, and our suburban city partners sent some representatives.

800
01:00:29,700 --> 01:00:35,100
This government, following the work of Jim Ellis in the 50s and 60s, was built to be

801
01:00:35,100 --> 01:00:36,320
the regional government.

802
01:00:37,900 --> 01:00:42,820
As the region boomed, as it grew, he saw that there were going to be pressing regional

803
01:00:42,820 --> 01:00:46,260
problems that needed cooperation across municipal boundaries.

804
01:00:46,260 --> 01:00:54,160
to your point to come about a regional response to homelessness is correct. We've got to

805
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:59,780
cooperate around the region. But I would say after trying this for seven years now, at

806
01:00:59,780 --> 01:01:04,860
the KCRHA, where the vision seems to be we're going to have one answer with maybe some

807
01:01:04,860 --> 01:01:10,900
subregional plans. That hasn't worked. What the South County leadership wants to do is

808
01:01:10,900 --> 01:01:13,740
different than what folks want to do in the city of Seattle.

809
01:01:14,420 --> 01:01:20,220
We cannot, I don't believe politically, have a one-size-size policy response to this challenge

810
01:01:20,220 --> 01:01:20,920
around the region.

811
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:26,000
And if we allow some experimentation and different things, we might see what works.

812
01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:34,780
But the point I want to deliver here is we've got a structure that doesn't allow us to work

813
01:01:34,780 --> 01:01:37,420
on this effectively through the KCRHA.

814
01:01:37,420 --> 01:01:42,800
And I don't see, particularly after you bring the contracts back for direct service provision,

815
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:47,880
what the value proposition is, what the business case is,

816
01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:54,740
to have an entirely separate standalone government with confederated leadership,

817
01:01:55,560 --> 01:01:57,280
to run just a little piece of this.

818
01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:02,680
The HMIS, the coordinated entry, the emergency response, and the continuum of care.

819
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:12,860
Those are regional functions, and I don't understand why this regional government shouldn't be charged with carrying them out.

820
01:02:13,300 --> 01:02:15,360
We did much of them before.

821
01:02:16,020 --> 01:02:26,400
I don't know why we would pay executives, accountants, auditors, lawyers for a whole separate government to do that.

822
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:31,540
Maybe in the course of these regional conversations, the value proposition will magically appear.

823
01:02:32,940 --> 01:02:39,840
But I don't see it, and I think we ought to send a clear signal that we can have the discussions there,

824
01:02:39,900 --> 01:02:41,980
but we don't need a separate government to do it.

825
01:02:42,140 --> 01:02:44,900
And I need to say there's some urgency to this.

826
01:02:45,100 --> 01:02:49,800
The audit that triggered this current conversation concluded with a review of a time period,

827
01:02:49,900 --> 01:02:52,860
I think, through last July, so more than a year ago.

828
01:02:52,860 --> 01:03:03,390
And we still, as we sit here today, don't have clarity and answers in August of 2026

829
01:03:04,210 --> 01:03:09,430
about the financial condition what the books are at the KCRAJ.

830
01:03:09,970 --> 01:03:11,510
Why does that matter to the county

831
01:03:15,090 --> 01:03:16,610
where they're banker?

832
01:03:17,690 --> 01:03:19,750
I chair the Executive Finance Committee.

833
01:03:20,590 --> 01:03:21,990
I am extremely nervous.

834
01:03:24,800 --> 01:03:28,360
We're like the run the checking account to put it in plain English, right?

835
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:31,640
The last meeting we had a few weeks ago, just before,

836
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:34,180
just linked a lot of, there were $65 million

837
01:03:34,180 --> 01:03:36,700
over drawn, $65 million.

838
01:03:37,380 --> 01:03:42,680
Our policy is allowed for an occasional inadvertent deficit,

839
01:03:42,780 --> 01:03:46,720
but this has gone on and on and on and on for years now.

840
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:49,360
Part of it is, I think, some mismanagement.

841
01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:51,920
It's part of it's overspending, but part of it's also

842
01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:52,460
the structure.

843
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:57,600
They never set up at the KACHA and operating

844
01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:03,380
capital system, for in other words, to have the float to address the difference between

845
01:04:03,380 --> 01:04:08,000
time money was received and time going out. So, we charge interest on that. That's had it some

846
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:17,040
cost. Why we would continue that structure to send money up to a third party entity from a financial

847
01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:22,740
sense perspective, I don't know. But I will just say, the longer this goes on and I understand

848
01:04:22,740 --> 01:04:28,740
for Mr. Rupert. Maybe this is ticked down to 50 million or so now. But I'm going to send a letter

849
01:04:28,740 --> 01:04:33,140
as Chairman of the Executive Finance Committee to the case of RHA. We have a meeting,

850
01:04:33,300 --> 01:04:38,100
I think, Thursday, because I said, don't cancel it. We didn't update on this. Asking

851
01:04:38,100 --> 01:04:44,420
for what the status is of the accounts receivable and what the plan is to make this pool

852
01:04:44,420 --> 01:04:51,320
whole to get back to zero. I think we need to have answers in a couple of weeks. It's gone

853
01:04:51,320 --> 01:04:59,940
for too long and I don't believe that we can in good conscience allow it to go on for another year.

854
01:05:00,270 --> 01:05:11,270
Or another six months, while regional conversations occur. This is very, very, very serious. We're out of compliance with our audit standards, we're out of compliance with our policies.

855
01:05:12,650 --> 01:05:19,970
And I do not support loaning the KCRHA money because I'm not sure how they would pay it back.

856
01:05:22,050 --> 01:05:24,170
So I wanted to follow up on Council Member Duns.

857
01:05:24,310 --> 01:05:32,790
I think correct remarks about policy, but also how you make change in the policy is driven in large part by the ability to do it.

858
01:05:32,970 --> 01:05:38,290
This dias has the regional policy committee has elected representatives from all over the county.

859
01:05:38,290 --> 01:05:43,210
If they are PC, remember county members, city of Seattle members, suburban city members.

860
01:05:43,430 --> 01:05:45,730
We come together, we have structures here.

861
01:05:45,870 --> 01:05:51,790
This work can be done, and it is important work, but I've concluded, I don't think that

862
01:05:51,790 --> 01:05:56,210
the executive in his report, the stabilize is fine, I'd call it an accounting transition

863
01:05:56,690 --> 01:06:01,530
is what I replace right size with, and then terminate not reset.

864
01:06:01,530 --> 01:06:17,310
I think you got three wrong words, and with that, I do think the exact and the mayor have done a good job in making a big first step to bring in these contracts back, because that will help mitigate some of the ongoing problems, but final question.

865
01:06:17,870 --> 01:06:20,510
In the motion, or maybe it's the first question at the same time.

866
01:06:21,310 --> 01:06:28,390
We asked for an assessment of the risk to the county's investment pool and identification of completed or recommended actions to mitigate.

867
01:06:28,390 --> 01:06:34,570
This is on page 259 of the materials, a page 4 of your appendix.

868
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:43,200
This is inadequate in terms of a response to this risk that we're looking at here.

869
01:06:44,300 --> 01:06:48,020
This says K-SireJ's negative cash balance presents several risks to the county investment

870
01:06:48,020 --> 01:06:51,680
pool, including negative findings by the auditor's office and repayment and certain

871
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:51,920
tier.

872
01:06:52,020 --> 01:06:55,960
And the final sentence is something I don't understand, a recommended action to mitigate

873
01:06:55,960 --> 01:07:01,660
that's risks is analysis of the county's repayment obligations.

874
01:07:03,300 --> 01:07:04,800
I don't know what you're saying there.

875
01:07:05,020 --> 01:07:09,100
Maybe you can enlighten me a little bit, but this area of the report,

876
01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:12,500
and actually this body of work, needs attention.

877
01:07:15,670 --> 01:07:17,070
Thank you, Councillor Maybran Devazki.

878
01:07:17,710 --> 01:07:21,830
First of all, I would agree that the negative cash balance is a risk,

879
01:07:21,990 --> 01:07:23,390
something that I am also worried about.

880
01:07:24,330 --> 01:07:26,130
There's a risk to the investment pool.

881
01:07:26,130 --> 01:07:29,290
There is a risk to the county's general fund, and we have to mitigate that.

882
01:07:29,690 --> 01:07:37,310
So I would be definitely supportive of in our discussion on Thursday, going through and figuring out what exactly to request from KCRIJ.

883
01:07:38,010 --> 01:07:45,610
So the analysis that needs to happen, that is happening, is reviewing all of those unreconsiled receivables

884
01:07:45,610 --> 01:07:50,630
and figuring out where they came from and who ultimately should be paying for them.

885
01:07:50,630 --> 01:07:56,190
To the degree that we get to a point where there are receivables or there's cash that has been spent

886
01:07:56,190 --> 01:08:05,090
that we cannot recover, we will have to do some sort of repayment plan in conjunction with the city and the county to fill that gap.

887
01:08:05,210 --> 01:08:07,730
And that's the analysis that's referring to.

888
01:08:07,970 --> 01:08:14,170
We have to figure out what exactly the gap is and then work with the city to figure out when and how to pay that gap.

889
01:08:14,610 --> 01:08:16,330
So that is the next steps.

890
01:08:16,330 --> 01:08:22,330
Turing point has done a good job in starting to go deep into those accounting transactions

891
01:08:22,330 --> 01:08:25,130
and we need to see the results so that to really get there.

892
01:08:25,410 --> 01:08:27,150
So that is what that is referring to.

893
01:08:27,210 --> 01:08:27,490
Good.

894
01:08:27,490 --> 01:08:28,430
Thank you very much, Sharon.

895
01:08:28,810 --> 01:08:29,230
I agree.

896
01:08:29,370 --> 01:08:35,250
I think in plain English, once we figure out what the deficit is, in other words, we receive

897
01:08:35,250 --> 01:08:37,570
all the receivables that are to be received.

898
01:08:38,670 --> 01:08:41,690
Well, it's 65 million there, but maybe it's 50 million today.

899
01:08:42,550 --> 01:08:42,710
Yeah.

900
01:08:42,710 --> 01:08:48,670
First left, and it's going to be $8, 10, 12, 15 million dollars, who knows what it is.

901
01:08:48,930 --> 01:08:50,770
The city and the county are going to have to write a check.

902
01:08:51,290 --> 01:08:51,770
That's correct.

903
01:08:51,930 --> 01:08:53,670
I would just like to stop the bleeding.

904
01:08:55,210 --> 01:08:56,150
I would just like to stop bleeding.

905
01:08:56,850 --> 01:09:02,710
And the thrust of this report seems to indicate that there is a possibility that this

906
01:09:02,710 --> 01:09:05,690
entity would continue on.

907
01:09:05,830 --> 01:09:11,430
And I don't see the value proposition from a policy perspective or a financial perspective.

908
01:09:11,430 --> 01:09:17,870
I just don't, I don't, I don't, I don't see it because we're a thing.

909
01:09:19,070 --> 01:09:23,530
Thank you and thank you for all of your work on this, I know many of you worked.

910
01:09:23,970 --> 01:09:30,330
Present until recently, but you're diving in and I appreciate your thoughtfulness and your approach.

911
01:09:32,350 --> 01:09:40,870
I'd like to tag on to what my colleagues have said so far about the lack of

912
01:09:40,870 --> 01:09:48,950
a truly regional approach in allowing the entire county a voice and a say in how dollars

913
01:09:48,950 --> 01:09:54,370
are spent or contracts are selected.

914
01:09:54,370 --> 01:09:59,610
And so beyond whether or not KCRHA exists.

915
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:05,140
Which it will largely need to do for COC funding and that he's I understand.

916
01:10:06,660 --> 01:10:14,700
But beyond that, the county is going to be taking on a hundred of these provider contracts in January.

917
01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:24,620
And so I understand that the county and the city are working towards no, in the later part of 2027.

918
01:10:24,620 --> 01:10:27,540
And so I have two questions,

919
01:10:27,900 --> 01:10:29,600
slash concerns relating to that.

920
01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:36,020
One is, will all of the contracts be part of the NOFA,

921
01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:40,580
meaning that the county in the city will align

922
01:10:41,100 --> 01:10:47,140
on funding and providers.

923
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:52,820
The idea is really to address the previous structure,

924
01:10:52,820 --> 01:10:58,180
which was, everybody is contracting with different providers and nobody knew what anyone else

925
01:10:58,180 --> 01:10:58,580
is doing.

926
01:10:58,860 --> 01:11:08,920
So I understand the need to collaborate and understand that we shouldn't essentially have

927
01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:14,000
providers potentially receiving the same amount of funding to do the same work for the

928
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:14,900
County and the city.

929
01:11:15,460 --> 01:11:19,720
Depping said, I worry if all of the contracts are going to be under the know-file we're

930
01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:29,300
to run into the same issue, which is that the entire county might not have a voice in how

931
01:11:29,300 --> 01:11:33,360
services are provided in different cities and different regions.

932
01:11:33,780 --> 01:11:35,380
So that's one around the Nova.

933
01:11:36,140 --> 01:11:45,040
And then the other question I have, and I'd like to hear a little bit more about, is how will

934
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:56,920
Council be a part of oversight input into the contracts after January. Currently, there are

935
01:11:56,920 --> 01:12:03,380
two representatives on the KCRIJ that receive updates on the status of the contracts,

936
01:12:03,660 --> 01:12:13,040
the outcomes, and all of that. But once the 100 contracts were over to DCHS, we'll

937
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:17,920
I mean, ideally, we would not just get an annual report that Council would be able to

938
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:23,500
provide some input and some manner as suggested by my colleagues in how those dollars

939
01:12:23,500 --> 01:12:29,700
should be spent. So those are kind of the two areas I'd love to hear more about.

940
01:12:31,260 --> 01:12:34,880
Do you want me to start? Yeah, I can start. You're going to turn on your thing, Jilani.

941
01:12:35,460 --> 01:12:39,180
All right. It's done there. I can start with the first question and personal answer.

942
01:12:39,180 --> 01:12:48,900
So, look, every crisis offers plenty of opportunity to look at the way we do business and to strive for efficiencies into more importantly, do things better.

943
01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:55,060
So, the main effort here between the county and the city is to really look at the way we contract.

944
01:12:55,540 --> 01:13:00,180
Can we harmonize language? Can we synchronize on outcomes that we want to see?

945
01:13:00,780 --> 01:13:05,400
You know, settle on some boilerplate text for our contracts and just generally simplified the process.

946
01:13:06,460 --> 01:13:10,280
And the second part to that, too, is also look at who pays for what?

947
01:13:10,740 --> 01:13:13,200
So, you know, King County, C.A.L.S. and King County.

948
01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:16,740
This King County pay for a contract for services that are delivered in Seattle.

949
01:13:16,740 --> 01:13:20,140
Or to Seattle take that on, and in return, if there's going to be some fun swapping,

950
01:13:20,820 --> 01:13:22,340
how do we look at that as a region?

951
01:13:22,700 --> 01:13:26,080
And so, those are some of those efforts that we're trying to do to simplify the process,

952
01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:27,200
and also make things better.

953
01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:36,060
I would say also the, the, the, the, the, the whole point of a no-fa process is to ensure

954
01:13:36,060 --> 01:13:44,780
sort of competitive processes in contracting that has not, I believe that when K. Sarah Chase

955
01:13:44,780 --> 01:13:51,440
started, there was an intent to put both the city and county contracts out for reprecurment

956
01:13:51,440 --> 01:13:59,320
and that never happened, and so part of what we wanted to do was the initial step in rolling

957
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:06,420
the contracts back, minimize disruption, but the conversations, I think, Council Member

958
01:14:06,420 --> 01:14:13,260
Fain, to your point, we do need to have a strategic conversation about how we are planning

959
01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:20,180
to repricure those contracts. Are these the right strategies? Do we have the right mix of

960
01:14:20,180 --> 01:14:24,520
strategies employed and how we are thinking about these funds.

961
01:14:25,000 --> 01:14:31,540
I think those are not questions that we have answers to today, but when the contracts come

962
01:14:31,540 --> 01:14:36,020
back, we will be working closely with our provider community and addressing some of the

963
01:14:36,020 --> 01:14:39,680
policy questions, quite frankly, that some of your colleagues raised.

964
01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:45,420
I think the other piece of this, the contracts, when they do come back to the county,

965
01:14:45,420 --> 01:14:59,980
They will be put forward through the county's budgeting process, so you will have a recommendation from the executive in his second omnibus for the amount of time.

966
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:05,320
County contracts. Again, we are hoping that you don't do much to choose the, because we want to

967
01:15:05,320 --> 01:15:11,060
maintain continuity for this next year. But once the contracts come back, once the, you know,

968
01:15:11,300 --> 01:15:16,500
sort of the bucket of funds come back to the county, we will, as within every other budget,

969
01:15:17,220 --> 01:15:21,940
that goes through the budget process. The executive branch will be working and collaborating

970
01:15:21,940 --> 01:15:28,400
closely with the council on the right strategies. The right makes the right dosage for those

971
01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:28,700
funds.

972
01:15:31,230 --> 01:15:32,110
Thank you.

973
01:15:32,250 --> 01:15:34,630
Councilor Schillard, did you want to jump in now?

974
01:15:36,230 --> 01:15:36,710
Go ahead.

975
01:15:38,970 --> 01:15:45,370
Well, first I want to say thank you so much for, as the chair said, providing the report.

976
01:15:45,570 --> 01:15:50,610
We know that there's a lot of moving parts here, so thank you for sending this over and

977
01:15:50,610 --> 01:15:55,290
working in partnership with the council on the timeline that happens, who just said, obviously,

978
01:15:55,310 --> 01:15:59,910
there was a lot of work that went into this with the announcement made with the City of

979
01:15:59,910 --> 01:16:00,570
Seattle as well.

980
01:16:00,570 --> 01:16:30,450
So we appreciate you were both responding to the report request, acting in real time to figure out how to stabilize and trying to figure out both how to do that in a way that minimize impact on those experiencing homelessness are contracted providers and really making sure that we are sending a message to all in this region that here in King County, we can govern as opposed to what we see in the other Washington, we are going to offer stability to folks and I still think that that's an important message for us as a collective body to be sending in this moment with so much

981
01:16:30,450 --> 01:16:34,230
certainty, especially around some of the dollars that I've been talked about, that we will

982
01:16:34,230 --> 01:16:39,490
continue to strive for as much stability as certainty as we can, not only for the contracted

983
01:16:39,490 --> 01:16:44,530
providers, but by doing so, providing stability to those who are experiencing homelessness

984
01:16:44,530 --> 01:16:46,090
or the folks that will fall in the homelessness.

985
01:16:46,410 --> 01:16:48,830
So thank you for submitting this report.

986
01:16:49,370 --> 01:16:52,690
And that said, I know that there's a lot that is still in the works.

987
01:16:52,810 --> 01:17:00,410
I think there's some conversations in this, well, some language in this report that really is more

988
01:17:00,410 --> 01:17:02,730
but to be flushed out, right?

989
01:17:03,090 --> 01:17:06,190
And along the lines of what Council Member Fain noted,

990
01:17:06,350 --> 01:17:08,890
I do want to make sure that the council

991
01:17:08,890 --> 01:17:10,590
and not only the members who are sitting

992
01:17:10,590 --> 01:17:12,130
on the case area to abhorred,

993
01:17:12,290 --> 01:17:14,550
but the members of the council have an active role

994
01:17:14,550 --> 01:17:16,630
in figuring out what those next steps look like

995
01:17:16,630 --> 01:17:20,250
because this is an area that is clearly of interest

996
01:17:20,250 --> 01:17:22,690
to members of the media has been described,

997
01:17:23,070 --> 01:17:24,490
but most importantly to members

998
01:17:24,490 --> 01:17:25,970
who are providing direct services

999
01:17:25,970 --> 01:17:27,570
and wanting to see that certainty.

1000
01:17:28,450 --> 01:17:33,690
I do have a question about how contracts are being moved over, and then I have some comments

1001
01:17:33,690 --> 01:17:34,790
if you know my Mr. Chair.

1002
01:17:35,930 --> 01:17:41,950
I know that DCHS is trying to ensure continuity of services with 100 plus contracts transferring

1003
01:17:42,510 --> 01:17:46,810
over January 20, 27, and in order to do so, we need staff.

1004
01:17:47,370 --> 01:17:51,870
And you've talked about that a little bit, but I just want to make sure that we're not biasing

1005
01:17:51,870 --> 01:17:58,470
our hiring and recruitment of the staff that could potentially come in and be ready to ensure

1006
01:17:58,470 --> 01:18:05,410
continuity and know best the relationships with the community organizations who are trying to

1007
01:18:05,410 --> 01:18:11,070
provide care, not biasing those individual staff members because they worked at KZRHA.

1008
01:18:11,470 --> 01:18:17,590
We've talked a lot about the concern the entity has, and we even heard concern today in public

1009
01:18:17,590 --> 01:18:20,090
testimony about the executive director.

1010
01:18:20,950 --> 01:18:24,570
I just want to make sure that the folks who are on the front line, many of whom we've heard

1011
01:18:24,570 --> 01:18:28,610
from today in public comment and we've received a letter, are not being biased in some

1012
01:18:28,610 --> 01:18:31,970
way if they are also applying for positions within DCHS.

1013
01:18:32,470 --> 01:18:37,810
So can you confirm for us or a short press that that is not filtering in to the analysis

1014
01:18:37,810 --> 01:18:43,730
of who gets a first round of interviews and for us to be sure that continuity is preserved?

1015
01:18:43,730 --> 01:18:49,450
I think that's a really critical piece for the community to know that we are trying to maintain

1016
01:18:49,450 --> 01:18:52,810
in that work even if it is not within the existing system.

1017
01:18:53,950 --> 01:18:53,990
Okay.

1018
01:18:53,990 --> 01:19:00,190
In the most simplest terms, yes, we are going to make sure that folks are not biased at all.

1019
01:19:00,310 --> 01:19:04,010
We recognize that the staff at KCRHA do hard work every day.

1020
01:19:04,290 --> 01:19:08,210
Many of them were colleagues of mine when I was a case manager in the field housing individuals

1021
01:19:08,210 --> 01:19:09,350
in this county myself.

1022
01:19:09,350 --> 01:19:15,230
We're going to, we're going to hold a competitive hiring process that's an alignment with our agreement with Protex 17.

1023
01:19:16,290 --> 01:19:23,090
We also expect a current case here at Jane Place, we're interested in King County employment or frankly for employment at the city Seattle.

1024
01:19:23,530 --> 01:19:27,910
To be very competitive because frankly they have experienced doing the very work that we're seeking to do.

1025
01:19:28,310 --> 01:19:29,270
Okay, thank you.

1026
01:19:29,990 --> 01:19:36,350
And then as we know as well, DCHS and case here at Jane both entities have been.

1027
01:19:36,350 --> 01:19:41,810
found to have had slow execution of contracts or making payments, right? That's not unique

1028
01:19:41,810 --> 01:19:47,410
to KSA-HA. It's an issue that I know this new executive is actively working on DCHS,

1029
01:19:47,410 --> 01:19:53,710
but I'm concerned about additional capacity being taken on before those staff members are

1030
01:19:53,710 --> 01:19:59,970
trained up. So can you remind us what is actively happening right now to remediate the

1031
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:09,320
Existing issues at DCHS in regards to payment of contracts on time, because we do get a lot of emails lately.

1032
01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:15,400
I think coming from a place of wanting to make sure that every T.S. Cross, every I is dotted.

1033
01:20:16,020 --> 01:20:28,560
But sometimes that triple checking, almost more than that, I heard one from one contractor last month that there was six different reports that they were asked to fulfill in one time, one month time frame.

1034
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:31,740
and all of that's leading to delayed payments for existing contractors.

1035
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:37,280
So can you talk about building capacity as you try to onboard additional people and take on additional work?

1036
01:20:37,940 --> 01:20:38,560
Yeah, thank you, sir.

1037
01:20:39,240 --> 01:20:43,240
Yes, part of our effort is to bring in this capacity early.

1038
01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:47,760
I've noted earlier, we've hired a nature specialist who can just focus on hiring and bringing

1039
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:48,880
staff on board.

1040
01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:53,900
This will provide critical time for folks to be trained properly, receive updated fraud prevention

1041
01:20:53,900 --> 01:20:59,620
training to ensure the staff are ready to go, not in January or December, but much earlier

1042
01:20:59,620 --> 01:21:00,240
than that.

1043
01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:06,160
Second, the team at this work is going to is very experienced with this work.

1044
01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:12,460
Many of them work for King County and work with these contractors, the contracts we're talking

1045
01:21:12,460 --> 01:21:16,300
about, prior to the KCRJ's, you know, formation.

1046
01:21:17,200 --> 01:21:21,420
So we're working hard to make sure that it's a smooth process as possible, we're starting

1047
01:21:21,420 --> 01:21:25,780
this work early, we're engaging in a lot of conversations with the folks that we will

1048
01:21:25,780 --> 01:21:27,680
ultimately have contracts with.

1049
01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:31,580
I'm also happy to say that we've looked at every individual contract.

1050
01:21:31,740 --> 01:21:35,200
It's really only about 10% of the contracts and totals about 10.

1051
01:21:35,520 --> 01:21:38,140
We don't have in existing business relationship with.

1052
01:21:38,300 --> 01:21:41,580
So we're in conducting some early outreach to make sure that those folks are ready to conduct

1053
01:21:41,580 --> 01:21:42,420
business with the county.

1054
01:21:43,500 --> 01:21:43,840
Thank you.

1055
01:21:44,140 --> 01:21:46,260
And maybe just last comment if I may.

1056
01:21:46,740 --> 01:21:47,200
And thank you.

1057
01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:55,160
I was listening intently on the Zoom, as I was on the way here, but I wanted to just

1058
01:21:55,160 --> 01:21:58,280
underscore for maybe members of the public that are listening.

1059
01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:02,880
I think there's shared frustration between the executive branch and the legislative branch,

1060
01:22:02,980 --> 01:22:07,380
shared frustration amongst colleagues here on the council with where we're at right now with

1061
01:22:07,380 --> 01:22:08,160
KCRHA.

1062
01:22:08,500 --> 01:22:12,920
But I do want to make sure that we're not conflating the agency, the King County Regional

1063
01:22:12,920 --> 01:22:18,760
the Social Security specifically with the decades-long proven practices of housing first policies.

1064
01:22:19,480 --> 01:22:25,220
Housing first is a national standard, and it is a proven evidence-based policy contrary

1065
01:22:25,220 --> 01:22:31,520
to what the Federal Administration is trying to assume or impune through their continuum

1066
01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:34,760
of care contracts and their no-for process and the language that they use.

1067
01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:40,260
Housing first is an approach in our region that has been something a point of pride for a very

1068
01:22:40,260 --> 01:22:44,940
time, and this is true even before the King County Regional Homelessness Authority was created.

1069
01:22:45,720 --> 01:22:49,680
I gave you some examples of evidence of the housing first policies showing higher retention

1070
01:22:49,680 --> 01:22:54,560
rates that he's cited by the National Alliance and Homelessness Show that over 80% of individuals

1071
01:22:54,560 --> 01:23:00,500
with complex needs remained housed after a year. This is much higher than other intervention strategies.

1072
01:23:01,100 --> 01:23:07,160
88% of there was an 88% reduction in homelessness among individuals experiencing homelessness

1073
01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:12,380
According to a comprehensive United States Department of Housing and Urban Development Analysis

1074
01:23:12,380 --> 01:23:17,380
that reviewed 26 separate studies, and they found that utilizing housing first approach

1075
01:23:17,380 --> 01:23:22,300
decreased overall time spent in homelessness by 80 percent, and increased general housing

1076
01:23:22,300 --> 01:23:23,620
by 41 percent.

1077
01:23:23,980 --> 01:23:25,740
That is unparalleled in other strategies.

1078
01:23:26,440 --> 01:23:34,560
Stability foundation, they provide a stability for getting into homelessness, according to

1079
01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:39,360
the national loan come housing coalition which confirmed that stable housing through housing

1080
01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:45,140
first provides in necessary foundation for personal recovery and accessing health services.

1081
01:23:45,700 --> 01:23:49,180
I think that there is a really important data point around veterans.

1082
01:23:49,700 --> 01:23:55,420
We saw 55% drop in veteran homelessness between 2009 and 2022.

1083
01:23:56,020 --> 01:24:01,460
The federal government paired housing first principles with the HUD's VASH voucher program

1084
01:24:01,460 --> 01:24:04,460
resulting in a 55% reduction in veteran homelessness.

1085
01:24:04,900 --> 01:24:06,200
The list goes on.

1086
01:24:06,420 --> 01:24:07,820
I will spare you in the moment.

1087
01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:11,860
Happy to provide this to members of the public and my colleagues

1088
01:24:11,860 --> 01:24:13,360
and the executive branch as well.

1089
01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:15,240
But I want to make sure that we don't

1090
01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:19,920
in the analysis of how we transition away from KCRHA

1091
01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:23,000
in its current form to bring more contracts

1092
01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:26,800
into the King County family and shared responsibility

1093
01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:30,320
with other city jurisdictions, not just Seattle,

1094
01:24:30,320 --> 01:24:39,380
But with other city jurisdictions, I want to make sure that we're not conflating the rise and homelessness with the failure of a policy that has actually been proven.

1095
01:24:39,460 --> 01:24:45,040
And housing first is absolutely an appropriate policy that has decades long data behind it.

1096
01:24:45,040 --> 01:24:55,380
And our region needs to, I think, look at every evidence, a strategy, especially when there's compounding tragedies of the opioid crisis, rising costs for housing in our region.

1097
01:24:55,380 --> 01:24:59,960
and the need for us to provide that stability compared to what we're seeing at the federal

1098
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:07,920
I thank you for hearing those statistics because I think that there's shared and understandable frustration

1099
01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:18,920
with KCRA and as we seek to try to mitigate for the problems that we see at KCRA, we do need to remain focused on what has worked

1100
01:25:18,920 --> 01:25:27,280
and for me and for the statistics that our team has looked at and for the nation, including in the previous administration

1101
01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:33,420
through HUD, they point to housing first as a proven strategy to get folks out of homelessness.

1102
01:25:33,780 --> 01:25:38,020
So much more to do in terms of investment in that area, but just want to make sure that's not being completed.

1103
01:25:40,620 --> 01:25:41,620
Thank you, Councillor Moskita.

1104
01:25:43,460 --> 01:25:50,320
Let me close out this section and before I call case here at J. Leadership, since we had questions about the financial situation,

1105
01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:55,540
I want to give an opportunity to provide an update on the corrective action plan, but just as we close this section,

1106
01:25:55,540 --> 01:26:00,860
First of all, I want to thank the executive for their work on the report.

1107
01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:05,480
I understand that part of it is incomplete in the sense because I think some of the questions

1108
01:26:05,480 --> 01:26:10,840
that we asked, I think your responses, we need more time and engagement to be able to tackle them

1109
01:26:10,840 --> 01:26:14,880
and I appreciate that and I, I think ultimately I agree with that and I think one of the things

1110
01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:20,940
that I would highlight is I saw pretty, you know, what I would consider deliberate, but

1111
01:26:20,940 --> 01:26:26,520
a tight timeline through first quarter of 2027 to be able to make those decisions, so I don't

1112
01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:32,360
see this as an indefinite, trying to balance the engagement that you want to have. I also think

1113
01:26:32,360 --> 01:26:35,780
that we need to be very careful with the fact that we're in the middle of a federal application

1114
01:26:35,780 --> 01:26:41,200
process with the continuum of care, and I think one of the, you know, one of the guiding principles

1115
01:26:41,200 --> 01:26:47,520
I would describe it as a do-no harm, which means don't make the situation worse, and I think

1116
01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:50,900
a loss of federal funding would be something that would certainly make the situation worse

1117
01:26:50,900 --> 01:26:54,840
and so I think we need to be careful about taking actions that might undermine our ability

1118
01:26:54,840 --> 01:26:57,080
to be able to be competitive for that federal funding.

1119
01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:02,840
And I think the steps, you know, if our federal partners are listening, we are taking, you know,

1120
01:27:02,900 --> 01:27:04,100
we're not taking status quo.

1121
01:27:04,220 --> 01:27:09,820
We are taking steps to be able to address the issues that have been found, but we are continuing

1122
01:27:10,360 --> 01:27:16,760
to have Kissier J, be the applicant for the cycle until we make decisions as to whether

1123
01:27:16,760 --> 01:27:19,000
We, as a region, want to take a different approach,

1124
01:27:19,380 --> 01:27:20,860
at least, at this moment.

1125
01:27:21,960 --> 01:27:24,200
So I support that approach.

1126
01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:28,120
And I think, I don't want to, like,

1127
01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:29,960
I think there's going to be further conversations

1128
01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:32,160
until the policy debate that we said here,

1129
01:27:32,180 --> 01:27:33,960
but I just wanted to sort of state my own perspective

1130
01:27:33,960 --> 01:27:34,840
on this.

1131
01:27:36,260 --> 01:27:38,960
I think there's broad agreement here.

1132
01:27:39,020 --> 01:27:40,840
I think from both the executive and legislative branches

1133
01:27:40,840 --> 01:27:43,240
that the current status quo is not acceptable.

1134
01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:48,620
All right, I think the numbers that comes from over the Basque highlighted are not good.

1135
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:55,400
I think we owe it to people who are in house in our region to work to identify the best

1136
01:27:55,400 --> 01:28:00,960
structure and the best policy that we can, and we should be open to thinking about this

1137
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:01,660
and what's working.

1138
01:28:02,200 --> 01:28:06,220
My own perspective, I agree with Council Member Mosque that I think housing first is a model

1139
01:28:06,220 --> 01:28:07,680
that has been shown to be effective.

1140
01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:12,880
The problem is that the model suggests the housing is the key part.

1141
01:28:12,880 --> 01:28:15,100
And that's the part that we're missing in our community.

1142
01:28:16,340 --> 01:28:18,640
And I think I appreciate, you know,

1143
01:28:18,640 --> 01:28:20,920
customer done your perspective about potentially trying

1144
01:28:20,920 --> 01:28:21,640
different approaches.

1145
01:28:21,720 --> 01:28:24,320
I think the challenge we've been dealing this with the

1146
01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:26,360
with the federal funding is that, you know,

1147
01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:28,980
there are people who are housed with our current set of resources.

1148
01:28:29,340 --> 01:28:33,120
And so if we shift resources as the threats are wanting to do

1149
01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:37,320
in other areas without that creates a gap in housing.

1150
01:28:37,400 --> 01:28:39,980
And so that's my concern about being, you know,

1151
01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:41,900
sudden in terms of pulling resources away.

1152
01:28:41,900 --> 01:28:45,620
If we had a whole additional set of resources, we could have the conversation to have as it gets

1153
01:28:45,620 --> 01:28:45,880
allocated.

1154
01:28:46,440 --> 01:28:49,640
We may need to have a conversation as to how the current set of resources needs to be allocated,

1155
01:28:49,660 --> 01:28:53,540
but we just need to be very careful, because what I don't want to do is to lead a

1156
01:28:53,540 --> 01:29:00,160
to a situation where those numbers actually skyrocket, because we're losing current services

1157
01:29:00,160 --> 01:29:01,320
capacity locally.

1158
01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:04,340
So I appreciate the work.

1159
01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:10,360
I think I consider this to be a, you know, not an end of the conversation, but as they

1160
01:29:10,360 --> 01:29:16,120
executive noted and engagement over the next few months to find a finalizer, at least

1161
01:29:16,120 --> 01:29:16,820
from my perspective.

1162
01:29:16,940 --> 01:29:18,320
I don't think I'm speaking for the whole council.

1163
01:29:18,460 --> 01:29:21,480
I'm just saying, from my perspective, that's how I heard the report.

1164
01:29:22,300 --> 01:29:24,320
I think there's clearly some questions.

1165
01:29:24,940 --> 01:29:28,780
And so there was a motion that the executive sent over with this to accept the report.

1166
01:29:28,940 --> 01:29:33,280
And I'm going to put that on hold unless I hear strong commitment to that just because I

1167
01:29:33,280 --> 01:29:37,360
feel like there are some questions that people still have about the financial picture and some

1168
01:29:37,360 --> 01:29:42,240
policy issues, so we're not going to take action on that item, but I do want to acknowledge

1169
01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:45,380
the work that was done by the executive and completing that report.

1170
01:29:46,220 --> 01:29:49,320
Colleagues, we have any questions for executive staff right now, but in the right case here,

1171
01:29:49,420 --> 01:29:54,840
it's a leadership to provide an update on the corrective action plan, and I see some knots on

1172
01:29:54,840 --> 01:29:55,360
that direction.

1173
01:29:55,600 --> 01:29:59,720
So thank you very much to our executive team for a bit.

1174
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:18,200
We're on this, and I'm going to invite Dr. Kelly Kittison, who's the CEO of KCRHA, as well as willing to, who's the associate's deputy for strategy of KCRHA, and they're going to be providing an update on the corrective action plan, as well as any other updates that you'd like to provide. Thank you.

1175
01:30:21,820 --> 01:30:28,020
I'd like to thank you chair Buron for inviting us to give this update.

1176
01:30:28,620 --> 01:30:32,860
Thank you members of Council and the public who are listening.

1177
01:30:33,440 --> 01:30:34,700
Just brief background.

1178
01:30:35,120 --> 01:30:40,900
Folks know I arrived in August of 2024 to a greatly imperiled agency

1179
01:30:40,900 --> 01:30:46,030
that had been without permanent leadership in many of our departments for a year or more.

1180
01:30:46,660 --> 01:30:51,480
I've worked closely with the governing board and city and county partners to address many aspects

1181
01:30:51,480 --> 01:30:58,560
of K-3HA operations and things to our very talented staff at K-3HA, we've made a number of improvements

1182
01:30:58,560 --> 01:31:04,860
in the system. For example, you all saw in our 2026 pit count that we saw for the first

1183
01:31:04,860 --> 01:31:11,840
time in many years, the rate of growth of homelessness began to slow, despite sort of unabated

1184
01:31:11,840 --> 01:31:19,140
key drivers of homelessness in our region. However, it became very clear early in my tenure

1185
01:31:19,140 --> 01:31:26,160
that deep expertise was needed to untangle what was going on in our finances after three to

1186
01:31:26,160 --> 01:31:33,080
four years of operations, a series of operational missteps, and then need to address our

1187
01:31:33,080 --> 01:31:38,760
underlying cost reimbursement financial model. I worked with the City and County to request

1188
01:31:38,760 --> 01:31:44,760
a forensic evaluation to bring transparency to our financial situation and create a path forward

1189
01:31:44,760 --> 01:31:48,640
for KCRHA and our regional homeless response system.

1190
01:31:49,420 --> 01:31:55,400
Since receiving the forensic evaluation in April, KCRHA has worked with urgency to address

1191
01:31:55,400 --> 01:32:01,380
issues surfaced by the evaluation as well as the longer term structural issues within

1192
01:32:01,380 --> 01:32:03,280
the operations of KCRHA.

1193
01:32:03,840 --> 01:32:09,420
We also recognize we did not have the capacity or capability in our finance department to

1194
01:32:09,420 --> 01:32:14,700
do this work and requested embedded support for super grateful to our city and county

1195
01:32:14,700 --> 01:32:18,560
partners for providing the support through turning points strategic advisors.

1196
01:32:19,700 --> 01:32:24,540
I'm going to turn it over to William Tauy to provide you with an update on our 90-day corrective

1197
01:32:24,540 --> 01:32:30,060
action plan and our work with turning points strategic advisors and be happy to answer any

1198
01:32:30,060 --> 01:32:31,120
questions you have.

1199
01:32:35,560 --> 01:32:36,860
Thank you, Dr. Kinnison.

1200
01:32:38,340 --> 01:32:41,300
Chair, council members, good to be back with you.

1201
01:32:41,840 --> 01:32:46,040
I'm grateful for the opportunity to be here and share what we're up to.

1202
01:32:46,040 --> 01:32:46,480
I

1203
01:32:54,420 --> 01:33:01,440
wanted to provide a brief update on where we are at with the 90-day point here in the

1204
01:33:01,440 --> 01:33:06,100
case of H.A.'s corrective action plan, and particularly how that work is now transitioning

1205
01:33:06,700 --> 01:33:13,900
into financial stabilization and implementation work being led by, when with turning points

1206
01:33:13,900 --> 01:33:21,720
strategic partners. At a high level, the controls and processes that strengthen during the

1207
01:33:21,720 --> 01:33:27,480
cap period, remain in operation, and a number of the original corrective action items have

1208
01:33:27,480 --> 01:33:31,340
now moved from development into a recurring practice.

1209
01:33:32,320 --> 01:33:36,560
The 90-day report largely completes the initial reporting cycle

1210
01:33:39,400 --> 01:33:41,200
associated with the correct

1211
01:33:41,200 --> 01:33:44,180
of action plan, but it does not represent the end of the work.

1212
01:33:45,140 --> 01:33:49,640
Turning points has now completed its initial assessment and is embedded with our finance

1213
01:33:49,640 --> 01:33:54,740
team working directly on reconciliation, monthly clothes, financially

1214
01:33:54,740 --> 01:33:57,240
reporting, internal controls, and implementation.

1215
01:33:58,620 --> 01:34:02,460
So increasingly, the work that began through the cap is moving into

1216
01:34:02,460 --> 01:34:06,500
sustained implementation and independent validation through

1217
01:34:06,500 --> 01:34:07,140
turning point.

1218
01:34:07,800 --> 01:34:12,260
The important distinction is that while the formal 90-day cap reporting

1219
01:34:12,260 --> 01:34:16,280
cycle is concluding, the underlying financial improvement work

1220
01:34:16,280 --> 01:34:24,260
is continuing and is increasingly being incorporated into KCRHA's ongoing financial operations.

1221
01:34:34,200 --> 01:34:39,860
One area where that work has already materially improved or understanding is the approximately

1222
01:34:39,860 --> 01:34:45,300
eight million dollars in receivables identified in the forensic evaluation is not reconcilable

1223
01:34:45,300 --> 01:34:51,450
from the records available at that time. Turning point has substantially advanced the

1224
01:34:51,450 --> 01:34:59,850
Reconciliation and identified historical accounting entries and reporting differences that help explaining that balance the work is being valid

1225
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:05,800
I did it against funder records. It's the county and city records. So I don't want to characterize

1226
01:35:05,800 --> 01:35:10,540
the original finding as completely resolved, but our understanding of that a million is considerably

1227
01:35:10,540 --> 01:35:16,340
better today than it was when the forensic report was issued. And at the time of our last

1228
01:35:16,340 --> 01:35:22,640
report to the committee of the whole. I also want to be careful not to over-read that result.

1229
01:35:23,260 --> 01:35:28,180
The original eight million represented a particular population identified through the forensic

1230
01:35:28,180 --> 01:35:35,120
review, resolving accounting issues with that population, does not by itself resolve the broader

1231
01:35:35,120 --> 01:35:38,260
historical and receivables reconciliation.

1232
01:35:39,980 --> 01:35:44,860
Turning point in case your HR continuing to reconcile receivables, invoices, advances

1233
01:35:44,860 --> 01:35:45,980
and funder records.

1234
01:35:48,360 --> 01:35:54,260
The broader work may also identify expenditures paid by KCRHA that were not fully reflected

1235
01:35:54,260 --> 01:35:56,980
in historical buildings to the city or county.

1236
01:35:56,980 --> 01:36:09,540
The broader reconciliation may identify adjustments in either direction, that is why we're continuing the transaction level work rather than drawing a conclusion from any single population of balance.

1237
01:36:10,780 --> 01:36:16,020
The administrative overspend identified in the Fraxant-Francic evaluation is also still undervalidation.

1238
01:36:16,940 --> 01:36:25,760
We are presenting a revised historical number today because the balance sheet and receivables work needs to be sufficiently complete before

1239
01:36:25,760 --> 01:36:28,980
that exposure can be reliably stated.

1240
01:36:29,700 --> 01:36:34,580
In parallel, turning point is developing a 2026 budget and cash

1241
01:36:34,580 --> 01:36:38,720
requirements plan so that we're addressing both the historical

1242
01:36:38,720 --> 01:36:41,700
reconciliation and the forward-looking management

1243
01:36:41,700 --> 01:36:43,000
of administrative spending.

1244
01:36:44,040 --> 01:36:47,140
So at this stage, we have a greater confidence in explaining

1245
01:36:47,140 --> 01:36:50,300
the original eight million dollar finding, but we're not yet prepared

1246
01:36:50,300 --> 01:36:53,720
to say to final net historical receivables or administrative

1247
01:36:53,720 --> 01:36:58,620
over spend number until that broader reconciliation is complete.

1248
01:37:04,920 --> 01:37:05,040
Really?

1249
01:37:05,660 --> 01:37:07,300
Can I post you here, Councillor Mousquita,

1250
01:37:07,500 --> 01:37:08,440
I had a question for you.

1251
01:37:08,760 --> 01:37:10,720
All right, thank you on the last line, please.

1252
01:37:11,280 --> 01:37:12,620
Yeah, let me go back.

1253
01:37:12,920 --> 01:37:14,980
I'm on the first bullet regarding the eight million.

1254
01:37:15,120 --> 01:37:17,300
I mean, I think that that was the biggest takeaway

1255
01:37:17,300 --> 01:37:19,100
from your presentation the last time around.

1256
01:37:19,100 --> 01:37:19,860
I'm ready to go.

1257
01:37:20,200 --> 01:37:22,380
Quite a bit of media coverage.

1258
01:37:22,560 --> 01:37:24,040
It definitely sparked a conversation here.

1259
01:37:24,680 --> 01:37:28,060
So what exactly are you saying that you're not sure

1260
01:37:28,060 --> 01:37:29,080
that it was eight million?

1261
01:37:29,080 --> 01:37:31,480
Can you just clarify for me what the takeaway?

1262
01:37:32,440 --> 01:37:35,180
Yeah, at the last time we were presenting, we

1263
01:37:35,180 --> 01:37:38,240
Delved into the topic of the unreconciled

1264
01:37:38,240 --> 01:37:39,060
Receiveables.

1265
01:37:39,780 --> 01:37:42,700
The Clark Nubler, forensic evaluation, clearly identified

1266
01:37:42,700 --> 01:37:46,480
an $8 million number in that regard.

1267
01:37:47,380 --> 01:37:50,460
And as Aaron pointed out earlier today,

1268
01:37:51,340 --> 01:37:54,720
and as I was sharing the last time I was here as well,

1269
01:37:54,720 --> 01:38:00,580
We recognize that there may be unreconciled receivables that need to be clarified.

1270
01:38:01,400 --> 01:38:08,420
And the process that we're close to concluding with turning point will give us final understanding

1271
01:38:08,420 --> 01:38:10,120
of what those numbers are.

1272
01:38:10,780 --> 01:38:18,440
So to be very direct to your question, the question is were there funds that KCRHA expanded

1273
01:38:18,440 --> 01:38:24,600
to providers for services that we're not build back to the county or the city.

1274
01:38:25,120 --> 01:38:28,800
And that's an example of what might be an unreconciled, receivable.

1275
01:38:29,520 --> 01:38:34,660
In this particular case, the update today is that the work so far with turning point has

1276
01:38:34,660 --> 01:38:40,220
gained deeper understanding of that particular $8 million population that they discovered,

1277
01:38:41,440 --> 01:38:44,120
but there could be others in the different types.

1278
01:38:44,120 --> 01:38:52,460
And until we get the final determination, we won't have the exact number in terms of what

1279
01:38:52,460 --> 01:38:55,380
is or isn't unreconsiled.

1280
01:38:55,660 --> 01:38:59,760
And what may or may not be do one direction or the other yet?

1281
01:39:00,040 --> 01:39:00,720
So, it's still pending.

1282
01:39:01,440 --> 01:39:03,460
Is it fair to say that you're flagging?

1283
01:39:03,540 --> 01:39:05,600
It might be higher than $8 million, then?

1284
01:39:06,060 --> 01:39:08,600
I wouldn't make an estimation at this point.

1285
01:39:12,940 --> 01:39:13,540
Yeah.

1286
01:39:13,540 --> 01:39:17,500
because we were together. This was an area of focus for a number of community members

1287
01:39:18,000 --> 01:39:24,260
understandably. And I think when we had the presentation into live, I think the aim was

1288
01:39:24,260 --> 01:39:29,220
to be able to figure that out by the 90-day review. So we're not quite there yet, but

1289
01:39:29,220 --> 01:39:34,360
do you have an estimate of how much longer it might take for us to get a final answer on that?

1290
01:39:34,680 --> 01:39:40,080
I do. In fact, the notes and comments from the next slide laid into that a little bit.

1291
01:39:40,080 --> 01:39:41,440
But let me interrupt you then.

1292
01:39:41,940 --> 01:39:42,620
Perhaps I'll proceed.

1293
01:39:42,860 --> 01:39:43,020
Go ahead.

1294
01:39:44,380 --> 01:39:45,460
Let me just do that.

1295
01:39:47,990 --> 01:39:50,110
Because they tie together to the negative

1296
01:39:50,110 --> 01:39:52,190
cash balance conversation, obviously.

1297
01:39:54,410 --> 01:39:58,310
And so finally, I want to distinguish the negative balance

1298
01:39:58,310 --> 01:39:59,970
in the King County investment pool.

1299
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:07,440
Well, from an established financial loss, it was not the same things at all. The negative KCIP balances

1300
01:40:07,440 --> 01:40:14,440
significant, and as council member Dimbalsky noted with this, you know, a conversation on this

1301
01:40:14,440 --> 01:40:21,420
around it being like a checking account or a credit account of some sort. It is at a

1302
01:40:21,420 --> 01:40:28,400
most basic level, it means cash outflows of exceeded reimburse cash and advances over time. And

1303
01:40:28,400 --> 01:40:32,040
And so we've expanded more funds than we've received back in.

1304
01:40:32,600 --> 01:40:34,640
And the cash balance it by itself, though,

1305
01:40:34,720 --> 01:40:38,960
does not tell us what portion represents an actual

1306
01:40:38,960 --> 01:40:42,660
unrecoverable deficit, which is, as you noted,

1307
01:40:42,820 --> 01:40:46,820
one of the key things were all eager to land on.

1308
01:40:47,520 --> 01:40:49,980
The balance reflects several things operating together.

1309
01:40:50,240 --> 01:40:53,720
KCRHA paying providers before reimbursement is received,

1310
01:40:53,720 --> 01:41:00,880
outstanding and on build receivables, fund advances, reimbursement timing, historical

1311
01:41:00,880 --> 01:41:07,060
invoicing, and reconciliation differences, accounting adjustments, and the reconciliation

1312
01:41:07,060 --> 01:41:13,180
will ultimately determine whether any portion represents expenditures that are not recoverable.

1313
01:41:14,540 --> 01:41:21,840
Now, turning point has substantially reconciled KSARAJ's cash position at this point.

1314
01:41:21,840 --> 01:41:24,220
They have been doing amazing works since they've arrived,

1315
01:41:24,220 --> 01:41:26,680
and it's just been really great to have them in.

1316
01:41:26,800 --> 01:41:28,880
But they've been in less than a month with us.

1317
01:41:28,980 --> 01:41:30,540
So things have been moving really quickly,

1318
01:41:30,600 --> 01:41:32,260
but it's been a short window so far.

1319
01:41:33,000 --> 01:41:37,040
The remaining work is necessary to distinguish,

1320
01:41:37,040 --> 01:41:38,720
you know, the timing differences

1321
01:41:39,500 --> 01:41:42,960
and recoverable receivables from any actual

1322
01:41:42,960 --> 01:41:44,200
and resolved deficit.

1323
01:41:45,020 --> 01:41:46,780
And so that's why at this point,

1324
01:41:47,400 --> 01:41:49,420
it's, we don't have an accurate number

1325
01:41:49,420 --> 01:42:02,060
to characterize today but we are very, very close on that and so I'll just move on then to the next phase which kind of ties this up.

1326
01:42:05,670 --> 01:42:21,270
Turning point has substantially completed the reconciliation work using KCRHA's records and is now awaiting complete transaction level detail from the county in the city to validate that work against those records.

1327
01:42:21,270 --> 01:42:31,310
Once those records are received from the county in the city, our understanding is that turning point expects to complete that validation and reconciliation quite quickly after that.

1328
01:42:31,370 --> 01:42:35,030
Like a matter of weeks, building a few weeks to process that.

1329
01:42:35,310 --> 01:42:41,090
And that's the asset test against what we've done internally for full reconciliation.

1330
01:42:41,330 --> 01:42:46,170
We need to check that against y'all's records and make sure that we really understand it.

1331
01:42:46,170 --> 01:42:50,970
But then at that point, we're going to have the answers to all of these core underlying questions

1332
01:42:50,970 --> 01:42:53,830
because they're driven from the same underlying issue.

1333
01:42:55,190 --> 01:43:00,070
So that work allows us to complete the validation of the historical administrative overspend,

1334
01:43:00,430 --> 01:43:06,930
and more reliably distinguish outstanding receivables and timing differences from any actual

1335
01:43:06,930 --> 01:43:09,290
unreceived financial deficit.

1336
01:43:09,890 --> 01:43:14,130
So I would characterize the 90-day point as a transition, not an endpoint.

1337
01:43:14,130 --> 01:43:18,850
And we know considerably more today than we did when the forensic evaluation was completed.

1338
01:43:19,670 --> 01:43:25,970
Some of the original findings are being material, materially clarified while other questions

1339
01:43:25,970 --> 01:43:27,070
remain under validation.

1340
01:43:27,950 --> 01:43:33,450
Our focus now is completing the work and continuing to strengthen KCRHA's recurring reconciliation,

1341
01:43:33,870 --> 01:43:36,970
monthly clothes, and financial reporting practices.

1342
01:43:38,410 --> 01:43:43,230
Turning point will remain directly engaged through the next phase, including ongoing review

1343
01:43:43,230 --> 01:43:48,410
validation of those processes, I think I'm happy to answer any questions.

1344
01:43:49,770 --> 01:43:50,650
Thank you.

1345
01:43:51,030 --> 01:43:55,850
William, let me ask you to comment and, or, or, you know, one of the questions I was

1346
01:43:55,850 --> 01:44:00,870
raised in our earlier conversation is, I think, customer of the Veski said stem to bleeding.

1347
01:44:01,870 --> 01:44:07,850
And I'm just trying to figure out, post-gen race, so the executive, of course, is planning

1348
01:44:07,850 --> 01:44:16,630
to take over the most, I guess, I would say, of the locally funded contracts.

1349
01:44:17,890 --> 01:44:23,310
But under that plan, Kissier-Chay will remain responsible for the COC money and for

1350
01:44:23,310 --> 01:44:28,930
a state funded contracts, as well as potentially some locally funded contracts.

1351
01:44:31,530 --> 01:44:38,850
My question is, is there anything that we can do to avoid the same problem that we've had

1352
01:44:38,850 --> 01:44:39,850
in past years?

1353
01:44:40,010 --> 01:44:43,810
Because I think those contracts are also kind of on this reimbursable situation, so you

1354
01:44:43,810 --> 01:44:49,230
still be paying, as it fair to say, that you will still be praying providers in advance,

1355
01:44:49,710 --> 01:44:53,050
not in advance of their work, but earlier than you get reimbursments.

1356
01:44:53,850 --> 01:44:58,010
So what I'm trying to get at is, like, do we still have the concern that we will still be in a

1357
01:44:58,010 --> 01:44:59,930
situation will be accruing, or case you're a chairwoman.

1358
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:06,580
We'll be agreeing, interest, because of that structural issue that we have been able to get around.

1359
01:45:07,400 --> 01:45:15,640
I think that's a really important question, and the answer is no. Virtually 100% of the challenges

1360
01:45:15,640 --> 01:45:21,040
and difficulties that we're untangling today are directly related to the local contracts with

1361
01:45:21,040 --> 01:45:27,620
King County and City of Seattle. Our HUD portfolio and our Commerce portfolios entirely clean and straight.

1362
01:45:28,940 --> 01:45:33,040
So we don't have, we don't have concerns about that problem recurring with the federal

1363
01:45:33,040 --> 01:45:33,320
group.

1364
01:45:33,560 --> 01:45:42,940
Now, the local contracts are complex and the never tried before effort to co-locate them

1365
01:45:42,940 --> 01:45:49,420
from the originating agencies, the city and the county, to KCRHA, and have an entity

1366
01:45:49,420 --> 01:45:55,540
take over to other entities, operations, including that didn't go very well.

1367
01:45:55,540 --> 01:46:06,420
So, the return of the contracts back to their origins source, I think, is a prudent move, given the experience that has taken place over the past few years.

1368
01:46:07,440 --> 01:46:07,740
Thank you.

1369
01:46:08,380 --> 01:46:11,940
Colleagues, any questions for a case here, Chase, staff?

1370
01:46:12,720 --> 01:46:13,440
I'll remember the most.

1371
01:46:13,740 --> 01:46:15,100
Thanks very much, William.

1372
01:46:16,640 --> 01:46:22,140
It's suddenly, we're going to have this reconciliation on the kind of the net deficit,

1373
01:46:22,140 --> 01:46:25,960
in simple terms, soon, house soon.

1374
01:46:26,780 --> 01:46:30,300
Turning point, or working really closely with us.

1375
01:46:30,480 --> 01:46:33,160
And we're, again, I can't say enough about the gratitude

1376
01:46:33,160 --> 01:46:38,120
we have for the decision to embed a resource with us.

1377
01:46:38,120 --> 01:46:39,580
We simply did not have the capacity

1378
01:46:39,580 --> 01:46:41,580
and capability internally to do this.

1379
01:46:41,840 --> 01:46:43,160
They've been moving really quickly.

1380
01:46:43,260 --> 01:46:44,960
They have completed the full reconciliation

1381
01:46:44,960 --> 01:46:46,720
of all of our internal records.

1382
01:46:47,040 --> 01:46:50,460
So we have a good sense of what's going on historically

1383
01:46:50,460 --> 01:46:51,240
over the past.

1384
01:46:51,240 --> 01:46:55,940
And it's really four years, 22, 23, 24, 25, and now at a 20, 26.

1385
01:46:57,120 --> 01:47:01,000
Most of the issues are stemming in the sort of 23, 24 range.

1386
01:47:01,520 --> 01:47:04,020
That's one thing went off track.

1387
01:47:05,360 --> 01:47:10,920
And right now we just were hoping that we will get the records from the county and the city

1388
01:47:11,620 --> 01:47:18,800
from their sides of those four years of transactions so that turning point can do the full reconciliation

1389
01:47:18,800 --> 01:47:23,620
the foundation against the funder records. Otherwise, we would just be providing a self-referential

1390
01:47:23,620 --> 01:47:29,020
understanding of our own records, which we are at, but we need that validated. We need

1391
01:47:29,020 --> 01:47:36,160
to understand your understanding of what was paid and received and the cities understanding

1392
01:47:36,160 --> 01:47:43,400
of what was paid and received in order to fully account and reconcile all of those transactions.

1393
01:47:44,480 --> 01:47:57,520
Sorry, I heard all that, but my question was, how soon, what the impardon me, so that calls for a day turn in or weeks or now I understand thank you, yeah for highlighting my lack of response there.

1394
01:47:57,920 --> 01:48:03,460
Trying to point our expecting to have this done with it, and I hate to put them on the spot, but like two or three weeks is what they're saying from today.

1395
01:48:03,740 --> 01:48:05,100
Yeah, from when they get the materials.

1396
01:48:05,540 --> 01:48:08,680
And is there any hold up at the county we've got the request?

1397
01:48:09,180 --> 01:48:12,360
I don't think so, they feel like you have a number internally.

1398
01:48:12,360 --> 01:48:15,120
you know, what do they proliferally determine?

1399
01:48:16,940 --> 01:48:17,400
Oh, you don't.

1400
01:48:17,480 --> 01:48:20,220
I thought they said that they'd based on the case here at J. Records.

1401
01:48:20,480 --> 01:48:23,340
They'd determine a number of knowledge just going to check it against Seattle

1402
01:48:23,340 --> 01:48:24,560
and the county's records.

1403
01:48:25,280 --> 01:48:27,160
We have a...

1404
01:48:27,160 --> 01:48:29,420
What I say it.

1405
01:48:30,040 --> 01:48:36,380
We have confidence in our ability to determine the number once we get that information back

1406
01:48:36,380 --> 01:48:37,300
from the county's records.

1407
01:48:37,340 --> 01:48:39,700
So it's not constructable by your own records.

1408
01:48:39,700 --> 01:48:40,100
Yeah.

1409
01:48:40,740 --> 01:48:40,960
Exactly.

1410
01:48:41,040 --> 01:48:42,080
We want to confirm that.

1411
01:48:42,200 --> 01:48:42,880
I heard something.

1412
01:48:43,060 --> 01:48:44,340
I'll just tell you entirely differently.

1413
01:48:44,520 --> 01:48:49,860
I heard in your presentation your slides that the three points based on your

1414
01:48:49,860 --> 01:48:54,540
own records and your presentation had developed a number and now you just wanted to validate

1415
01:48:54,540 --> 01:48:59,900
it against the outside funders, the county in the city, but now I'm hearing that you can't

1416
01:48:59,900 --> 01:49:01,380
do it based on your records.

1417
01:49:01,720 --> 01:49:08,020
And if he's going to require the county in the city records to get to that net deficit to validate

1418
01:49:08,020 --> 01:49:17,020
What we think we have internally is how I should have said that more accurately did determine or to validate to both I think

1419
01:49:17,020 --> 01:49:21,020
I think it's fair to say that the degree of

1420
01:49:24,520 --> 01:49:30,200
Work and the long history of this. This is this is a complex historical

1421
01:49:31,900 --> 01:49:37,420
Undertaking all of that sir. Yeah, I'm just speaking as the budget chair of this

1422
01:49:37,420 --> 01:49:44,260
government and with a serious concern about where we stand and now we've gotten here and now

1423
01:49:44,260 --> 01:49:50,160
we're going to get out of it. Now we're not doing any further harm. And month after month after

1424
01:49:50,160 --> 01:49:55,640
month is going by and I understand it's very complicated and you all are new to the scene relatively.

1425
01:49:58,160 --> 01:49:59,960
But there's a lot of words on the screen.

1426
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:12,960
Lines, but no numbers, you know, no firm numbers. And so the time for kind of my dad told the story. He had an office with Mr.

1427
01:50:13,040 --> 01:50:27,140
Harder in the 1950s. Mr. Harder son would go down to have lunch and he'd take a long lunch and someone would call for so best to the son and Mr. Harder's dad would say, I can almost see him coming now.

1428
01:50:27,140 --> 01:50:30,120
I can almost see him coming now.

1429
01:50:30,520 --> 01:50:32,020
This kind of feels like that.

1430
01:50:32,780 --> 01:50:40,980
We've got to run this to ground, not almost, but not next month, not two months, but

1431
01:50:40,980 --> 01:50:44,080
we've got to get this done, because it's very serious.

1432
01:50:45,060 --> 01:50:46,560
Yeah, I appreciate that.

1433
01:50:47,220 --> 01:50:53,640
And I can assure you we're equally eager to get to that number, but some of that validation

1434
01:50:53,640 --> 01:50:58,980
And what the county say the records is going to have tremendous impact on what those numbers

1435
01:50:58,980 --> 01:50:59,460
could be.

1436
01:50:59,540 --> 01:51:01,080
So it's just too early to stay at this point.

1437
01:51:01,160 --> 01:51:03,080
We're ready to go to work to solve it.

1438
01:51:03,120 --> 01:51:05,820
I think we're prepared that there's going to be a check to be written.

1439
01:51:06,000 --> 01:51:07,140
We'll figure it out with the city.

1440
01:51:07,480 --> 01:51:08,700
That's all understood.

1441
01:51:09,780 --> 01:51:12,980
And then we can get on to figuring out kind of what the future holds.

1442
01:51:13,660 --> 01:51:19,020
But I'm interested in kind of stopping, stopping the bleeding, getting it squared away,

1443
01:51:19,020 --> 01:51:26,000
and then putting this chapter of, I didn't even put them up here.

1444
01:51:27,740 --> 01:51:31,340
Thousands of headlines of bad news, you know, behind us.

1445
01:51:32,940 --> 01:51:35,440
Because it's, for example, people's lives.

1446
01:51:35,760 --> 01:51:38,820
Hundreds of folks a year in this county are dying on the street.

1447
01:51:39,180 --> 01:51:40,240
You know, I'm alive.

1448
01:51:40,880 --> 01:51:42,460
And I've worked great with you.

1449
01:51:42,560 --> 01:51:46,560
You ran folks and you're a tremendous leader.

1450
01:51:48,840 --> 01:51:55,640
But we've set up a system here that isn't working and it's uncomfortable upon us to fix it and fix it as soon as we can.

1451
01:51:56,080 --> 01:52:00,300
You know, I'm 100% aligned with you there, and I can assure you the bleeding has stopped.

1452
01:52:01,780 --> 01:52:05,860
So, you know, I've not been there long, but we are a tight shift today.

1453
01:52:05,980 --> 01:52:11,460
There's no deficit out of control organization at the moment.

1454
01:52:11,460 --> 01:52:17,960
We are diligently pursuing reconciliation of these past issues, and we will get the mail down.

1455
01:52:19,260 --> 01:52:19,940
Councillor Roscoe.

1456
01:52:21,880 --> 01:52:25,800
I think it's your presentation and this may be more of a question for the actual agency

1457
01:52:25,800 --> 01:52:26,740
to see you again.

1458
01:52:27,340 --> 01:52:32,220
I'm worried about a bleeding of a different sort and worried about people leaving the agency

1459
01:52:32,720 --> 01:52:37,260
given the uncertainty of what's going to happen to their position, and this is something

1460
01:52:37,260 --> 01:52:40,800
that we have flagged for our partners as well,

1461
01:52:40,940 --> 01:52:43,760
the concern that people will leave KCRAJ

1462
01:52:43,760 --> 01:52:45,880
and not have the actual institution

1463
01:52:45,880 --> 01:52:48,960
and the capacity to provide direct services.

1464
01:52:49,120 --> 01:52:52,460
Can you speak to how many people have left KCRAJ,

1465
01:52:52,740 --> 01:52:55,160
what the vacancy rate is, do you have statistics

1466
01:52:55,160 --> 01:52:57,660
on turnover rates currently at KCRAJ,

1467
01:52:57,860 --> 01:53:02,360
maybe today relative to a year ago or six months ago?

1468
01:53:09,300 --> 01:53:10,300
Thanks for that question.

1469
01:53:10,300 --> 01:53:17,360
And we've spent a lot of time as an executive team talking about the health and well-being

1470
01:53:17,360 --> 01:53:24,620
of our staff and the ability to continue with our work in the mission of KCRHA, and I

1471
01:53:24,620 --> 01:53:29,640
have to say the mayor's office and the executive's office in announcing the local contract

1472
01:53:29,640 --> 01:53:36,320
transition surfaced early that this would be difficult for KCRHA staff, particularly those

1473
01:53:36,320 --> 01:53:39,940
whose work is moving back to the City and County.

1474
01:53:40,220 --> 01:53:43,300
And so we've been working with our labor partners

1475
01:53:43,300 --> 01:53:48,970
to make sure there are clear principles for us to follow.

1476
01:53:49,540 --> 01:53:51,720
K-SeriesJ is sharing every announcement

1477
01:53:52,440 --> 01:53:56,640
from the City and County and providing support

1478
01:53:56,640 --> 01:54:00,380
for our teams who may want to follow the work.

1479
01:54:01,220 --> 01:54:04,940
We've had one resignation this year.

1480
01:54:04,940 --> 01:54:11,280
I can happily share with the council, the statistics that you requested, council member,

1481
01:54:11,280 --> 01:54:19,460
Ms. Gade, I don't have those at hand, but I think folks are waiting to see what happens,

1482
01:54:19,580 --> 01:54:21,040
we're waiting to see what happens.

1483
01:54:22,300 --> 01:54:26,640
My leadership in this moment is just to be as transparent as I can be with those staff,

1484
01:54:26,900 --> 01:54:32,020
encourage them to do what's best for them, but obviously I'm not in a position to guarantee

1485
01:54:32,020 --> 01:54:43,700
anyone a job and we are working hard to keep them informed, give them outlets to provide input

1486
01:54:43,700 --> 01:54:50,280
ask questions. We have, you know, this is a business decision and as we've heard, it's

1487
01:54:50,280 --> 01:54:55,620
a very dire and urgent and the only lever I control is really as payroll.

1488
01:54:58,590 --> 01:54:59,970
Thank you.

1489
01:55:00,540 --> 01:55:29,660
I don't see further questions about it just on that point. I do want to acknowledge, because we, you know, began meeting with some public comment from Councillor Chistaff. And I do want to acknowledge that and reiterate, I think, the point that you may Dr. Kinison about the fact that there are some changes that are going to impact people who have been providing services to the community. And we want to acknowledge that, I don't think we want to share a code to fact that like these changes are going to have a disruptive impact on people's lives, who are having providing services for our region.

1490
01:55:29,660 --> 01:55:33,400
and we appreciate their work and, you know,

1491
01:55:33,440 --> 01:55:35,880
sometimes in government, we have to make, you know,

1492
01:55:36,020 --> 01:55:39,080
typical decisions and I think the agency is responding

1493
01:55:39,080 --> 01:55:41,560
in some ways to some of the issues that were part

1494
01:55:41,560 --> 01:55:45,780
of the first evaluation in terms of our administrative budget

1495
01:55:45,780 --> 01:55:47,560
and making sure that we're compliant with that.

1496
01:55:47,640 --> 01:55:49,880
And of course, the changeover of the contracts

1497
01:55:49,880 --> 01:55:51,180
is going to have a disruptive,

1498
01:55:51,380 --> 01:55:52,800
effective case of your staff.

1499
01:55:53,440 --> 01:55:56,200
I agree with Councilor Mosque that I think we should try

1500
01:55:56,200 --> 01:55:58,300
to figure out as a local region with the city

1501
01:55:58,300 --> 01:56:03,580
the county to figure out if there are, you know, people who have skills who can come over to

1502
01:56:03,580 --> 01:56:08,700
do the work locally. I think that would make sense and try to mitigate the impacts, but

1503
01:56:08,700 --> 01:56:14,860
we also don't want to over-promise what's possible, given the limited resources that we have to

1504
01:56:14,860 --> 01:56:19,660
do the work. So, thank you for that, and I appreciate all the folks from the case here at Chase

1505
01:56:19,660 --> 01:56:24,200
staff who provided public comment today, and we'll continue to be engaged in that conversation.

1506
01:56:25,020 --> 01:56:29,680
Colleagues, as I mentioned, I sense that we still had questions on this, so I'm not going

1507
01:56:29,680 --> 01:56:35,560
to take, I'm not going to put the motion accepting the report on, for a vote today, but

1508
01:56:35,560 --> 01:56:38,800
appreciated the work that everybody has done to get us better informed.

1509
01:56:39,760 --> 01:56:43,880
I will second the Council member of the Bowsky's comment earlier about the need for kind

1510
01:56:43,880 --> 01:56:47,120
of more clarity on the numbers, and I know you're all working hard, but I think that

1511
01:56:47,120 --> 01:56:53,440
is going to be very important as we try to make decisions in the coming months and look

1512
01:56:53,440 --> 01:56:59,360
to continue to engage in the stoppick as needed as anybody have any other final comments.

1513
01:57:00,120 --> 01:57:01,180
Councillor Moura Lewis.

1514
01:57:02,680 --> 01:57:03,980
Yes, thank you, Chair.

1515
01:57:04,600 --> 01:57:09,400
Earlier in the meeting, I mentioned the Black Women's Experience study and I just want

1516
01:57:09,400 --> 01:57:13,660
my colleagues to know that for those of you who would like to review it while you're in transit

1517
01:57:13,660 --> 01:57:19,760
or otherwise being buried about we do have printed copies of those for you.

1518
01:57:20,740 --> 01:57:24,120
Thank you very much, Councillor Lewis, for educating us.

1519
01:57:24,560 --> 01:57:24,800
All right.

1520
01:57:26,640 --> 01:57:28,900
Councillor Lewis, can I just want to thank Councillor

1521
01:57:28,900 --> 01:57:31,560
Moore Lewis again for your comments during the earlier presentation.

1522
01:57:32,640 --> 01:57:36,020
Councillor Lewis has also sent out an email to the whole floor with the

1523
01:57:36,020 --> 01:57:36,480
hard copy.

1524
01:57:36,820 --> 01:57:40,780
I would say that that report used to live online, and our team was having a hard

1525
01:57:40,780 --> 01:57:41,800
time finding it online.

1526
01:57:41,920 --> 01:57:46,800
So just to request to the King County family to try to get that report back

1527
01:57:46,800 --> 01:57:50,740
up in the appropriate place, because it does appear that that link has been taken down.

1528
01:57:50,940 --> 01:57:54,440
So thank you to Council member Lewis for, again, mentioning that sending the email around

1529
01:57:54,440 --> 01:57:58,340
and for our team for printing that out and helping to make sure everybody had a copy in

1530
01:57:58,340 --> 01:57:58,780
the end.

1531
01:58:00,280 --> 01:58:02,020
Thank you very much, Councillor Rosquita.

1532
01:58:02,780 --> 01:58:06,360
Clerk, did we have any council members to be said to Council member Wadu Chir, Council

1533
01:58:06,360 --> 01:58:07,980
my prayer to miss votes?

1534
01:58:09,560 --> 01:58:11,840
Other than Council member Beldu Chir, I'm hearing no.

1535
01:58:12,240 --> 01:58:13,900
All right, thank you.

1536
01:58:15,380 --> 01:58:16,240
Thank you, colleagues.

1537
01:58:16,580 --> 01:58:18,280
We're going to end the meeting.

1538
01:58:18,460 --> 01:58:20,160
If there's no further bins to come before the committee,

1539
01:58:20,480 --> 01:58:21,180
we are adjourned.