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Second meeting of the Law and

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Justice Committee. My name is

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Rhonda Lewis. I am the chair

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and I appreciate you being here

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today. I appreciate the large

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contingent from the Office of

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Law Enforcement Oversight as

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well. It

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s good to see you here

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this morning. On today

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agenda, we have three

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appointment confirmations for

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the Community Advisory

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Committee for Law Enforcement

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Oversight. We have the Office

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of Law Enforcement Oversight

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annual report. And then lastly,

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we have a briefing from the

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Human and Civil Rights

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Commission on their annual

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report. And we will begin this

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morning by calling the roll

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clerk. Williams, please call

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the roll.

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Thank you. Chair Councilmember

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Balducci Councilmember Baron

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here. Council member Dembowski.

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Here. Councilmember Mosqueda.

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Chair. Lewis here.

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Okay. Moving on. Um. Vice

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chair, MAY I have a motion to

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approve the minutes from the

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JULY 1st, 2026 meeting?

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I

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m happy to do that. I

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the vice chair of the

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committee, but I just want to

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make sure that I. I

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ll move for

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you. I

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ll move. I move approval

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of the minutes. I don

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t want to

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overtake somebody.

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All right, I appreciate that.

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All right. All those in favor

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say aye.

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I.

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Now we will turn. Is that an I

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from Council member Dembowski?

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It was sorry for the late vote.

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Thank you. And I see

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Councilmember Mosqueda is

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signing it. Present. All right.

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ll now turn to public

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comment. Uh, Clerk Calderon, do

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we have anyone in person or on

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the line wishing to provide

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public comment?

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We do have one person in

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chambers, and nobody has raised

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their hand on zoom, but I had

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two people there.

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All right. Thank you. Um, I

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review the rules for public

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comment just really quickly.

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Uh, public comment must be

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related to items on today

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meeting. Agenda cannot be used

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for the purpose of assisting a

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campaign for election of any

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person to office or for the

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promotion of, or opposition to

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any ballot proposition. It also

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must not include obscene speech.

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If a speaker fails to abide by

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these restrictions. The speaker

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will be ruled out of order and

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the microphone will be turned

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off. You

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ll have two minutes to

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speak, and then you

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ll hear a

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timer. At that point, you MAY

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finish your thought, but please

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wrap up your comments. If you

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go past two minutes, you MAY be

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muted. Uh, we

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calling on the person who has

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signed up to speak in person.

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That would be Alex Zimmerman.

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Yes, I am Alex. Yes.

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Um.

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I

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m PRESIDENT Of Stand-Up

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America. I want to speak about

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this a little nice piggy Nazi

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piggy hook. For a dozen years,

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I MAY complain to our life like

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committee doesn

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t complain. I

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never have one answer. You

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understand? Look, this. It

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s a

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new generation of Democrat

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Nazi. Piggy. Yes. Why? Because

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I complained to you three

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months ago. Twice. About

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Superior Court. My story.

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Complain. Small claims. Court

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cases. Complain to Superior

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Court and not one accept. No

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one ever registered or

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dismissed without registration.

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Mama, you remember I have this

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complaint. Not only here. I

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write to you twice. Whereas

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answer for this. Are you a?

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She

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s a French. Who are you?

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You forgot about this. You

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have. Right? Give me answer. So

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what are we talking about? This

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Nazi piggy. You know what this

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means. When bosses don

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respect constitutional law.

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Three months. I ask you for

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answer of my complaint. I bring

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you complaint yourself. Might

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complain. You know what is mean

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in writing. Where is answer?

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Where is the answer? So when

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you acting like a Nazi Gestapo

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pig, you know what does it

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mean? So what is you talking

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about? This new generation.

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Look, they faces this all

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Democrat and all stupid and all

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Nazi. Democrat. Nazi. Yeah,

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exactly. They say, are you

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talking for many years? Viva

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Trump! Viva new American

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Revolution. Stand up slave and

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happy cow. Change this. Look.

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This is face is dirty. Thank

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you very much. You too.

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Thank you, MR. Zimmerman. Is

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there anyone else in chambers

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who was not able to sign up

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that would like to, um, make a

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public comment?

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No one has raised their hand

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online.

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Online. Okay, great. Well, we

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will, um, move on. Uh, if

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s no one on online.

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will close public comment. Okay,

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moving on to our first item on

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the agenda. The first three

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items on the agenda are

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confirmations of appointments

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to the Community Advisory

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Committee for Law Enforcement

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Oversight, uh, commonly known

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as cackling. So I

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m pleased to

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welcome these appointees before

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us today. We appreciate members

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of the public who stepped

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forward to serve on committees.

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Your participation plays an

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important advisory role in

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helping inform the work of King

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County government, and we are

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grateful for your time and

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commitment to public service

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for each appointment appointee.

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Rather, we will hear an

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introduction from Nick Bowman,

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Council Counsel staff, and then

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we will have an opportunity to

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hear from each appointee and

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ask questions. Nick, please

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breathe in.

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Good morning, Council members.

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For the record. Nick Bowman,

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Council central staff.

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As the chair mentioned, there

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are three At-Large appointments

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to the clerk, Leo, on the

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agenda today, which are items

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five, six and seven. The

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materials for agenda item

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number five begin on page eight

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of your packet. I

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start with just a very brief

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overview of the advisory

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committee and then introduce

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the first appointee, the

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Community Advisory Committee

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for Law Enforcement Oversight

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is an 11 member committee which

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supports the activities of the

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county

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s Office of Law

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Enforcement Oversight. Some of

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the committee

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s duties include

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serving as liaison between Olio

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and the communities it serves,

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advising Olio on law

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enforcement training policies

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and procedures, and advising

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cxo and the Council on matters

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of equity and social justice

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related to law enforcement, as

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well as on problems and

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opportunities for improvement

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in cxo practices. All right. So

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agenda item number five is

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proposed motion 2026 0170. And

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this would confirm the

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s appointment of

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Daniel Santon who resides in

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County Council District seven,

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for a term expiring on MARCH

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31st, 2027. According to his

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application materials. MR.

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Sansone is a King County Metro

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employee who previously served

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Oversight Panel and has a

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passion for improving the

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s relationship with

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law enforcement. Now, staff

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have not identified any issues

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with the proposed appointment.

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Thank you. Nick. MR. Santon,

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would you like to introduce

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yourself and tell us a little

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bit about why you

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Hello, Council members. Um,

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once again, my name is Dan

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Stanton. Uh, not just a little

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different from the, uh, the the

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blurb at the bottom. Um, uh, I

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work for King County Metro, and

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there was a call in the Asian

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resource group for volunteers

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to this particular committee.

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And my son is, uh, attending

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the University of Washington

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and was interested in becoming

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a police officer. And so i

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figured that it would align

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with my interest as a father to

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understand where my son

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interests are and learn a

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little bit more about, um, uh,

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policing and, uh, give my time

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to help improve the

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relationship between the police

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and the community. Uh, I was

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born in Japan, and the

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relationship between the police

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population is very different

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than in the United States. I

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motivation for signing up,

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getting to know more about your

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son and and his interests. Um,

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colleagues, do we have any

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questions for, uh, MR. Stanton?

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My colleagues online. Do you

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have any questions? All right,

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then, MAY I have a motion to

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approve? Proposed motion 2020

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60170?

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Chair, I move that we give a do

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pass recommendation to propose

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motion 2026 01708.

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Clerk Williams, will you please

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call the roll?

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Thank you. Chair Councilmember

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Balducci Councilmember Baron. I

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Councilmember Dembowski. I

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Councilmember Mosqueda I chair

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Lewis, I vote is for ayes zero

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noes with Councilmember

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Balducci excused.

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Thank you. By our vote, we have

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approved proposed motion

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2026-0170 with a do pass

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recommendation. If there are no

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concerns, we will place this on

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the consent agenda for the next

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appropriate full council

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meeting. And that would be the

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meeting of SEPTEMBER 15th. Mr.

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Stanton, you do not need to

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attend the meeting, but you

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re

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welcome to do so. Thank you for

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your interest in serving.

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Appreciate it. Okay. Our next

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item is a motion confirming the

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appointment of Kyle Jones to

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the ceo. Nick, would you please

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introduce MR. Jones?

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Absolutely. The materials for

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agenda item number six can be

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found on page 16 of your

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packet. Uh, proposed motion

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2026 0183 would confirm the

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executive

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s appointment of Kyle

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Jones, who resides in Council

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District two, for a term to

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expire on MARCH 31st, 2028.

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According to his application

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materials. MR. Jones is the

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director of programs at Look to

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Justice, a nonprofit

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organization that provides

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civic education to system

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impacted communities so they

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are able to participate in the

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legislative process. Again,

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staff have not identified any

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issues with the proposed

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appointment. That concludes my

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remarks.

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Thank you. I

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m always proud

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when the members constituents

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step up to serve. I appreciate

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your service. MR. Jones. Would

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you like to make a statement?

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Um, yeah, I

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ll just say hello

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and thank you for your time and

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your consideration. Um, as was

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mentioned, my name is K.J.. I

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m

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actually now a deputy director

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at Look to Justice. I just got

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a promotion. Um, and, yeah, I

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would just say I worked at

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Apple for eight and a half

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years as a genius. Um, I played

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a role there in unionizing the

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stores in Washington and

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Oregon. Actually started a

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union campaign with with both

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states, you know, shared

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information on unionizing and

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the importance of, you know,

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workers standing up for what

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s

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right and what they deserve.

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Um, and just bridging that gap

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between business and the

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worker. Right. And I think in

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community, we have the same

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issues. A lot of times there

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s

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disconnects between government

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and community. And so I

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m just

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looking forward to being able

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to be someone who can help

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bridge that gap.

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Thank you. We have any any

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questions for MR. Jones?

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Colleagues online. Any

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questions? I don

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t see any

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hands. All right, then we will

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move on to the motion

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confirming the appointment of

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Kyle Jones to the clerk. Leo,

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MAY I have a motion? Um, a

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motion to move the proposed

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motion.

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Sure. Sure. I move that we give

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a do pass recommendation to

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propose motion 2026 0183.

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Clerk, would you please call

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the roll?

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Thank you. Chair. Councilmember

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Balducci. Councilmember Baron.

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I.

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Councilmember Dembowski.. I

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Councilmember I Chair Louis. I

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vote is for ayes zero noes with

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Councilmember Balducci excused.

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Thank you. By our vote, we have

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approved proposed motion 2026

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0183 with a do pass

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recommendation. And again, if

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there are no concerns, we will

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place this item on the consent

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agenda for the SEPTEMBER 15th

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Council meeting. MR. Jones, um,

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thank you for your interest and

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serving. You do not need to

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attend that meeting, but you

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re

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welcome to do so if you choose.

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So congratulations and

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congratulations on your

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appointment. I mean, on your,

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um, promotion.

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Thank you. And thank you all.

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Okay, our final confirmation

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for today is Samuel Hawkins.

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Nick, would you please

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introduce MR. Hawkins?

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Yes.

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Uh, agenda item number seven.

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And the materials can be found

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on page 24 of your packet.

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Proposed motion 2026 0186 would

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confirm the executive

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appointment of Samuel Hawkins,

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who resides in Council District

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five, for a term to expire on

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MARCH 31st, 2028. According to

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his application materials. MR.

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Hawkins is currently a

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volunteer for a non-profit

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organization, Filthy Rags

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Outreach, assisting with young

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men who are a justice system

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involved and helping

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individuals as they transition

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from the Department of

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Corrections back into the

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community. A staff has not

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identified any issues with the

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proposed appointment, and that

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concludes my remarks.

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Thank you. We do have MR.

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Hawkins in chambers this

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morning. And MR. Hawkins, if

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you

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d like to come up front and

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make some remarks, we

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d

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appreciate that. MR. Hawkins

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explained to me this morning

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he

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s been pretty patient with

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this, um, appointment process,

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and we appreciate that as well.

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Good morning. Uh, my name is

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Samuel Hawkins, and, uh, my

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reason for, uh, second

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appointment is to better

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communicate. Uh, the

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transitions with youth and law

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enforcement as they transition

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back into the community as well

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as adults. I

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ve worked with,

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uh, adults as well. And. I

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m

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just looking forward to trying

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to build something that will

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precipitate change and a better

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understanding between both

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communities.

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Great. Thank you for that. Um,

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any questions for MISTER

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Hawkins?

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Not so much a question, but

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just, uh, gratitude to you and

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to the other people who

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ve, uh,

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decided to put forth their

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names and be patient with us in

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our appointment process and

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grateful for your willingness

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to serve the community in this

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role. So thank you. Thank you.

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Any of my other colleagues

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questions or comments? Again,

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MISTER Hawkins, we do, um,

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appreciate so much work that

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you

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ve done in community and

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the work that you continue to

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do and then look forward to

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your serving on Kaleo. So at

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this point, MAY I have a motion

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to move? Proposed motion 2026

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0186.

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Chair I move that we give a do

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pass recommendation to propose

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motion 2026 0186.

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Thank you. Clerk Williams,

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would you please call the roll?

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Thank you. Chair Councilmember

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Balducci Councilmember Baron.

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Aye.

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Councilmember Dembowski.

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Aye.

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Councilmember Mosqueda I.

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Chair Lewis.

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, I.

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What is for eyes zero noes with

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Councilmember Balducci excused.

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Thank you. By our vote, we have

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approved proposed motion 2026

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0186 with a do pass

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recommendation. Um, MR.

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Hawkins, have you, as you heard

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me say to the others, um, this

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item will be placed on the

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SEPTEMBER 15th council meeting.

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Uh, you don

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t need to attend

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the meeting, but you

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re welcome

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to if you if you

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d like to be

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present. Uh, congratulations.

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Thank you for your commitment.

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Thank you for your patience and

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hanging in there and serving in

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the meantime while you wait it

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to be a point appointed. Thank

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you.

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Thank you so much. Appreciate.

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Thank you.

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All right. Our next agenda item

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is a report from the Office of

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Law Enforcement Oversight. It

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s

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their annual report from 2025.

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Uh, the work of the Office of

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Law Enforcement Oversight is

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very important in providing

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civilian oversight to help

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ensure county law enforcement

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is accountable and fair. So

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today, we have the director of

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Olio here with us to provide,

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um, the report. Council member.

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Yes.

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Did you mention if the previous

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item was on consent or not?

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Um, I thought I did, but if I

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did not, I I

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ll say that we

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will put that on consent for

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the SEPTEMBER 15th meeting.

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Thank you. Director Abizaid,

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thank you for being here today.

582
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And please proceed when you

583
00:18:16,540 --> 00:18:18,318
re

584
00:18:18,318 --> 00:18:20,318
ready.

585
00:18:21,121 --> 00:18:23,521
Thank you. Thank you.

586
00:18:28,261 --> 00:18:29,829
Thank you very much. Thank you,

587
00:18:29,829 --> 00:18:30,931
Chair Lewis, for inviting me to

588
00:18:30,931 --> 00:18:32,532
speak to the Law and Justice

589
00:18:32,532 --> 00:18:32,732
Committee today and to present

590
00:18:32,732 --> 00:18:34,732
Ohio

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00:18:35,802 --> 00:18:37,671
s 2025 annual report. The

592
00:18:37,671 --> 00:18:38,705
annual report was transmitted

593
00:18:38,705 --> 00:18:40,273
to the Council at the beginning

594
00:18:40,273 --> 00:18:41,974
of JUNE. I hope that everyone

595
00:18:41,974 --> 00:18:42,976
has had a chance to peruse it.

596
00:18:42,976 --> 00:18:44,944
Uh, as usual, I highly

597
00:18:44,944 --> 00:18:47,246
recommend reading the report in

598
00:18:47,246 --> 00:18:48,381
its entirety. Um, I have

599
00:18:48,381 --> 00:18:49,616
received feedback in the past

600
00:18:49,616 --> 00:18:51,751
that sometimes I get a little

601
00:18:51,751 --> 00:18:52,819
too far into the weeds when I

602
00:18:52,819 --> 00:18:52,972
give these presentations, so

603
00:18:52,972 --> 00:18:54,154
I

604
00:18:54,154 --> 00:18:56,990
m going to keep it more high

605
00:18:56,990 --> 00:18:57,166
level today. But obviously, um,

606
00:18:57,166 --> 00:18:58,558
we

607
00:18:58,558 --> 00:19:00,927
ll gladly take any questions

608
00:19:00,927 --> 00:19:01,895
that that you MAY have. Um, and

609
00:19:01,895 --> 00:19:03,463
of course, the report is

610
00:19:03,463 --> 00:19:04,497
available on our website for

611
00:19:04,497 --> 00:19:06,866
any members of the public to

612
00:19:06,866 --> 00:19:08,835
look at as well. We will begin,

613
00:19:08,835 --> 00:19:11,338
as usual, by going over some

614
00:19:11,338 --> 00:19:12,806
data about investigations and

615
00:19:12,806 --> 00:19:13,473
allegations of misconduct by

616
00:19:13,473 --> 00:19:13,707
the King County Sheriff

617
00:19:13,707 --> 00:19:15,707
s

618
00:19:16,442 --> 00:19:18,644
Office, or cxo. Uh, overall,

619
00:19:18,644 --> 00:19:20,913
the total number of complaints,

620
00:19:20,913 --> 00:19:23,583
uh, this year or in 2025 was

621
00:19:23,583 --> 00:19:27,183
down by 4% year over year and

622
00:19:28,622 --> 00:19:30,723
down by 6% compared to the 2021

623
00:19:30,723 --> 00:19:32,191
to 2024 average. Compared to

624
00:19:32,191 --> 00:19:34,194
that time frame. The number of

625
00:19:34,194 --> 00:19:34,727
complaints originating from

626
00:19:34,727 --> 00:19:35,395
within the sheriff

627
00:19:35,395 --> 00:19:37,395
s office

628
00:19:37,830 --> 00:19:38,665
have declined by 9%, while the

629
00:19:38,665 --> 00:19:40,500
number of complaints

630
00:19:40,500 --> 00:19:42,900
originating from the community

631
00:19:43,836 --> 00:19:45,638
have climbed 5%. Nearly half of

632
00:19:45,638 --> 00:19:47,106
all complaints were classified

633
00:19:47,106 --> 00:19:48,574
in the expedited category

634
00:19:48,574 --> 00:19:50,574
because preliminary evidence

635
00:19:50,744 --> 00:19:52,846
was conclusive, about a third

636
00:19:52,846 --> 00:19:54,714
of complaints was classified as

637
00:19:54,714 --> 00:19:56,714
formal investigations with

638
00:19:58,485 --> 00:20:00,485
serious policy allegations.

639
00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,920
Allegations coming from within

640
00:20:04,224 --> 00:20:06,250
cxo were formally investigated

641
00:20:06,250 --> 00:20:06,926
far more often than allegations

642
00:20:06,926 --> 00:20:08,261
coming from within the

643
00:20:08,261 --> 00:20:09,962
community, which were more

644
00:20:09,962 --> 00:20:11,397
often expedited. Again, because

645
00:20:11,397 --> 00:20:13,397
preliminary evidence was

646
00:20:13,867 --> 00:20:16,102
conclusive. Uh oleo certified

647
00:20:16,102 --> 00:20:17,237
87. Internal investigations.

648
00:20:17,237 --> 00:20:19,206
Those are investigations that

649
00:20:19,206 --> 00:20:21,140
are conducted by CSOs. Internal

650
00:20:21,140 --> 00:20:23,310
Investigations Unit while being

651
00:20:23,310 --> 00:20:25,712
monitored by Olio. And we only

652
00:20:25,712 --> 00:20:28,112
declined to certify one

653
00:20:29,249 --> 00:20:30,917
investigation. Uh, 2025 was

654
00:20:30,917 --> 00:20:31,918
also the year oleo began

655
00:20:31,918 --> 00:20:33,886
officially conducting

656
00:20:33,886 --> 00:20:35,721
independent investigations. And

657
00:20:35,721 --> 00:20:37,590
we completed 11 independent

658
00:20:37,590 --> 00:20:39,990
investigations in that year,

659
00:20:42,562 --> 00:20:44,430
uh, 29% of all cxo deputies

660
00:20:44,430 --> 00:20:46,198
were subjects of one or more

661
00:20:46,198 --> 00:20:48,100
allegation, which is just

662
00:20:48,100 --> 00:20:49,836
slightly higher than the

663
00:20:49,836 --> 00:20:52,172
previous few years. That

664
00:20:52,172 --> 00:20:54,410
increase is almost entirely

665
00:20:54,410 --> 00:20:55,809
accounted for by deputies who

666
00:20:55,809 --> 00:20:57,510
received a single allegation

667
00:20:57,510 --> 00:20:59,779
from a community member. The

668
00:20:59,779 --> 00:21:02,179
percentage of deputies with

669
00:21:03,149 --> 00:21:05,149
three, 4 or 5 allegations

670
00:21:05,284 --> 00:21:07,153
decreased. Notably, while the

671
00:21:07,153 --> 00:21:09,553
percentage with just 1 or 2

672
00:21:15,428 --> 00:21:17,197
allegations has grown. The vast

673
00:21:17,197 --> 00:21:19,597
majority of all specific

674
00:21:19,733 --> 00:21:21,501
allegations fell into four

675
00:21:21,501 --> 00:21:23,501
categories violation of

676
00:21:24,804 --> 00:21:26,804
directives, subpar performance,

677
00:21:27,507 --> 00:21:29,476
discourtesy and use of force.

678
00:21:29,476 --> 00:21:30,910
Two of those violations of

679
00:21:30,910 --> 00:21:32,879
directives and subpar

680
00:21:32,879 --> 00:21:35,182
performance are a little too

681
00:21:35,182 --> 00:21:37,784
general to be of value for us.

682
00:21:37,784 --> 00:21:39,185
So in 2026, we have started

683
00:21:39,185 --> 00:21:41,287
applying what we are calling

684
00:21:41,287 --> 00:21:42,589
descriptive allegations, just

685
00:21:42,589 --> 00:21:44,457
as an aid to help folks

686
00:21:44,457 --> 00:21:45,692
understand what type of conduct

687
00:21:45,692 --> 00:21:47,600
we are talking about. In any

688
00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:48,394
specific case, because

689
00:21:48,394 --> 00:21:49,429
something like violation of

690
00:21:49,429 --> 00:21:50,697
directives or subpar

691
00:21:50,697 --> 00:21:52,198
performance MAY not necessarily

692
00:21:52,198 --> 00:21:52,413
explain what the conduct that

693
00:21:52,413 --> 00:21:54,413
we

694
00:21:57,203 --> 00:21:59,939
re talking about is. Of the

695
00:21:59,939 --> 00:22:01,474
614 total allegations

696
00:22:01,474 --> 00:22:03,874
investigated and closed in

697
00:22:04,678 --> 00:22:06,813
2025, about a quarter ended

698
00:22:06,813 --> 00:22:08,381
with sustained findings, almost

699
00:22:08,381 --> 00:22:09,749
double the rate of the previous

700
00:22:09,749 --> 00:22:11,485
year. That includes

701
00:22:11,485 --> 00:22:13,320
investigations that resulted in

702
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:14,687
performance related training,

703
00:22:14,687 --> 00:22:16,220
but no other forms of

704
00:22:16,220 --> 00:22:18,240
corrective action, such as

705
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,424
discipline. For example, that

706
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:22,362
number rises to over two thirds

707
00:22:22,362 --> 00:22:24,297
sustained when looking at

708
00:22:24,297 --> 00:22:25,310
allegations originating from

709
00:22:25,310 --> 00:22:26,320
within the sheriff

710
00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:27,734
s office.

711
00:22:27,734 --> 00:22:29,769
The difference in that

712
00:22:29,769 --> 00:22:31,737
sustained rate is present even

713
00:22:31,737 --> 00:22:33,773
when taking into account

714
00:22:33,773 --> 00:22:35,575
allegations that are related to

715
00:22:35,575 --> 00:22:37,844
internal training needs or

716
00:22:37,844 --> 00:22:39,479
minor policy violations. For

717
00:22:39,479 --> 00:22:41,479
allegations originating from

718
00:22:42,648 --> 00:22:44,550
community members, about 14% of

719
00:22:44,550 --> 00:22:45,852
those were sustained, which is

720
00:22:45,852 --> 00:22:48,252
consistent with the numbers

721
00:22:51,925 --> 00:22:53,559
from last year. On the policy

722
00:22:53,559 --> 00:22:55,962
side, we are proud to have

723
00:22:55,962 --> 00:22:57,263
completed in 2025 our first

724
00:22:57,263 --> 00:22:59,650
community guided policy

725
00:22:59,650 --> 00:23:00,433
project. And since the

726
00:23:00,433 --> 00:23:02,235
publication of the annual

727
00:23:02,235 --> 00:23:03,936
report, we have also published

728
00:23:03,936 --> 00:23:05,905
one more, while another should

729
00:23:05,905 --> 00:23:08,107
be published next week. The

730
00:23:08,107 --> 00:23:10,430
first project was related to

731
00:23:10,430 --> 00:23:11,844
traffic enforcement. Our

732
00:23:11,844 --> 00:23:13,844
community partners identified

733
00:23:13,980 --> 00:23:16,380
traffic enforcement and road

734
00:23:16,583 --> 00:23:17,951
safety as a top concern, and we

735
00:23:17,951 --> 00:23:19,586
published those recommendations

736
00:23:19,586 --> 00:23:21,788
last year. Oleo and its

737
00:23:21,788 --> 00:23:22,822
community partners completed

738
00:23:22,822 --> 00:23:24,523
outreach with local

739
00:23:24,523 --> 00:23:24,758
communities, worked with

740
00:23:24,758 --> 00:23:26,159
sheriff

741
00:23:26,159 --> 00:23:28,159
s office personnel,

742
00:23:28,294 --> 00:23:30,694
researched best practices, and

743
00:23:31,330 --> 00:23:32,865
developed four recommendations

744
00:23:32,865 --> 00:23:35,235
to develop a data driven

745
00:23:35,235 --> 00:23:37,103
traffic safety strategy that

746
00:23:37,103 --> 00:23:38,838
prioritizes safety related

747
00:23:38,838 --> 00:23:40,838
enforcement, traffic

748
00:23:41,207 --> 00:23:43,543
enforcement to reform guidance

749
00:23:43,543 --> 00:23:45,445
for traffic stop procedures to

750
00:23:45,445 --> 00:23:47,445
improve data collection

751
00:23:48,214 --> 00:23:49,782
practices, and to refrain from

752
00:23:49,782 --> 00:23:51,782
increasing automated traffic

753
00:23:52,850 --> 00:23:53,987
enforcement using cameras until

754
00:23:53,987 --> 00:23:55,555
a feasibility, until and unless

755
00:23:55,555 --> 00:23:57,657
a feasibility and equity study

756
00:23:57,657 --> 00:23:59,626
is conducting to analyze and

757
00:23:59,626 --> 00:24:01,895
mitigate any privacy and equity

758
00:24:01,895 --> 00:24:03,596
concerns, and that process must

759
00:24:03,596 --> 00:24:05,596
include robust community

760
00:24:07,633 --> 00:24:09,302
engagement. In the last few

761
00:24:09,302 --> 00:24:12,710
weeks, we published a second

762
00:24:12,710 --> 00:24:13,639
community guided policy project

763
00:24:13,639 --> 00:24:16,390
on responding to increased

764
00:24:16,109 --> 00:24:17,577
federal immigration enforcement

765
00:24:17,577 --> 00:24:19,345
as immigration enforcement

766
00:24:19,345 --> 00:24:21,214
intensifies intensifies

767
00:24:21,214 --> 00:24:22,415
nationwide, community members

768
00:24:22,415 --> 00:24:24,317
have been seeking additional

769
00:24:24,317 --> 00:24:26,186
resources and protections for

770
00:24:26,186 --> 00:24:28,287
immigrants in King County,

771
00:24:28,287 --> 00:24:29,455
leveraging community input.

772
00:24:29,455 --> 00:24:30,490
Olio and its partners

773
00:24:30,490 --> 00:24:30,756
recommended that the sheriff

774
00:24:30,756 --> 00:24:32,158
s

775
00:24:32,158 --> 00:24:33,826
office strengthen current

776
00:24:33,826 --> 00:24:36,496
policy to be more responsive to

777
00:24:36,496 --> 00:24:37,797
community needs, expand

778
00:24:37,797 --> 00:24:39,332
community education and

779
00:24:39,332 --> 00:24:41,300
outreach, and promote

780
00:24:41,300 --> 00:24:43,700
understanding by clarifying the

781
00:24:43,903 --> 00:24:45,404
existing policy, language. And

782
00:24:45,404 --> 00:24:47,574
a third project to be published

783
00:24:47,574 --> 00:24:48,174
next week. So be on the lookout

784
00:24:48,174 --> 00:24:49,609
for that. We

785
00:24:49,609 --> 00:24:51,343
ll focus on crowd

786
00:24:51,343 --> 00:24:53,146
management and the use of the

787
00:24:53,146 --> 00:24:53,480
Rapid Deployment Force within

788
00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:55,480
the Sheriff

789
00:24:56,490 --> 00:24:58,490
s office. Our

790
00:24:58,510 --> 00:24:59,685
community engagement work is

791
00:24:59,685 --> 00:25:01,654
essential to our policy

792
00:25:01,654 --> 00:25:03,122
recommendations. Olios policy

793
00:25:03,122 --> 00:25:04,758
recommendations are developed

794
00:25:04,758 --> 00:25:06,359
in direct collaboration and

795
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:07,560
consultation with community

796
00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,560
members and community

797
00:25:09,829 --> 00:25:11,829
organizations. We prioritize

798
00:25:11,898 --> 00:25:14,298
equity and reflect community

799
00:25:14,501 --> 00:25:16,403
interests, legal standards, and

800
00:25:16,403 --> 00:25:18,803
law enforcement best practices

801
00:25:19,272 --> 00:25:20,973
in our recommendations. We now

802
00:25:20,973 --> 00:25:22,242
have seven formal partnerships

803
00:25:22,242 --> 00:25:24,642
with MoUs with various

804
00:25:24,710 --> 00:25:26,212
community based organizations.

805
00:25:26,212 --> 00:25:27,914
They have put in dozens of

806
00:25:27,914 --> 00:25:29,315
hours of work, including

807
00:25:29,315 --> 00:25:30,917
providing a direct link to

808
00:25:30,917 --> 00:25:32,819
community members through

809
00:25:32,819 --> 00:25:34,420
surveys and listening sessions.

810
00:25:34,420 --> 00:25:36,655
We are so grateful to our

811
00:25:36,655 --> 00:25:38,725
community partners. Archiv King

812
00:25:38,725 --> 00:25:40,426
County Urban family look to

813
00:25:40,426 --> 00:25:41,761
justice Congolese Integration

814
00:25:41,761 --> 00:25:43,263
Network, People Power,

815
00:25:43,263 --> 00:25:45,263
Washington Transportation

816
00:25:45,264 --> 00:25:47,100
Choices Coalition and Eastside

817
00:25:47,100 --> 00:25:49,350
for all and we are always

818
00:25:49,350 --> 00:25:51,370
looking for more partners. So

819
00:25:51,370 --> 00:25:53,206
if anyone is listening, please

820
00:25:53,206 --> 00:25:55,575
reach out to us. We also want

821
00:25:55,575 --> 00:25:57,743
to thank the members of Kaleo,

822
00:25:57,743 --> 00:25:59,478
both past, present and those

823
00:25:59,478 --> 00:26:01,181
who will hopefully be appointed

824
00:26:01,181 --> 00:26:02,448
soon. Uh, you are right, we

825
00:26:02,448 --> 00:26:05,418
were all very patient with the

826
00:26:05,418 --> 00:26:06,319
appointment process and we are

827
00:26:06,319 --> 00:26:07,353
really glad to see these

828
00:26:07,353 --> 00:26:08,554
appointments coming through,

829
00:26:08,554 --> 00:26:10,890
and we are really grateful to

830
00:26:10,890 --> 00:26:11,457
all the community members who

831
00:26:11,457 --> 00:26:13,126
are willing to put in the time

832
00:26:13,126 --> 00:26:16,896
and effort to help us build a

833
00:26:16,896 --> 00:26:18,310
better King County. Those are

834
00:26:18,310 --> 00:26:19,980
the main highlights of our

835
00:26:19,980 --> 00:26:20,566
report. And like I said, I

836
00:26:20,566 --> 00:26:21,734
highly encourage you and

837
00:26:21,734 --> 00:26:22,902
members of the public to read

838
00:26:22,902 --> 00:26:25,902
our report, which is available

839
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:27,874
on our website. This is my

840
00:26:27,874 --> 00:26:29,942
sixth and final annual report

841
00:26:29,942 --> 00:26:31,144
presentation to you. As you all

842
00:26:31,144 --> 00:26:32,778
know, I am leaving my position

843
00:26:32,778 --> 00:26:34,130
in just about a month, so I

844
00:26:34,130 --> 00:26:34,981
request your indulgence while I

845
00:26:34,981 --> 00:26:37,550
take a moment to say a couple

846
00:26:37,550 --> 00:26:40,530
of things about the office over

847
00:26:40,530 --> 00:26:41,420
the last five years, oleo has

848
00:26:41,420 --> 00:26:42,622
made tremendous strides in

849
00:26:42,622 --> 00:26:44,123
delivering accountability to

850
00:26:44,123 --> 00:26:45,859
the residents of King County,

851
00:26:45,859 --> 00:26:47,727
though there remains much more

852
00:26:47,727 --> 00:26:48,928
to be done. We have doubled the

853
00:26:48,928 --> 00:26:50,196
size of the office and more

854
00:26:50,196 --> 00:26:52,331
than doubled the number of

855
00:26:52,331 --> 00:26:53,766
investigations we handled. We

856
00:26:53,766 --> 00:26:55,368
have built an independent

857
00:26:55,368 --> 00:26:57,469
investigations program from the

858
00:26:57,469 --> 00:26:59,606
ground up. We created a mini

859
00:26:59,606 --> 00:27:00,973
think tank in the office,

860
00:27:00,973 --> 00:27:02,775
dramatically increasing the

861
00:27:02,775 --> 00:27:04,577
number and scope of our policy

862
00:27:04,577 --> 00:27:05,545
recommendations. We have

863
00:27:05,545 --> 00:27:07,113
entered into strong

864
00:27:07,113 --> 00:27:09,113
partnerships with community

865
00:27:09,448 --> 00:27:11,817
organizations. We have staffed

866
00:27:11,817 --> 00:27:13,953
and strengthened. Kaleo. We

867
00:27:13,953 --> 00:27:15,422
also work tirelessly to develop

868
00:27:15,422 --> 00:27:17,323
internal policies and

869
00:27:17,323 --> 00:27:19,250
procedures that make the office

870
00:27:19,250 --> 00:27:20,426
able to function smoothly and

871
00:27:20,426 --> 00:27:22,128
with accountability.

872
00:27:22,128 --> 00:27:23,663
Operations. Work is often done

873
00:27:23,663 --> 00:27:24,864
behind the scenes, and I want

874
00:27:24,864 --> 00:27:26,320
to acknowledge the tremendous

875
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,267
strides that we have seen in

876
00:27:28,267 --> 00:27:29,468
that area as well. The last

877
00:27:29,468 --> 00:27:31,805
five years at Olio have seen

878
00:27:31,805 --> 00:27:33,273
the office blossom, and I am so

879
00:27:33,273 --> 00:27:36,410
proud to be leaving Olio in the

880
00:27:36,410 --> 00:27:37,100
shape that it is in. And as

881
00:27:37,100 --> 00:27:39,440
much as I would love to take

882
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:40,279
credit for all of that, the

883
00:27:40,279 --> 00:27:42,848
real credit belongs to the

884
00:27:42,848 --> 00:27:45,218
staff at Olio. I am amazed

885
00:27:45,218 --> 00:27:46,753
every day by their dedication

886
00:27:46,753 --> 00:27:48,288
to civilian oversight and their

887
00:27:48,288 --> 00:27:50,688
commitment to serving the

888
00:27:57,830 --> 00:27:59,298
people of King County. The job

889
00:27:59,298 --> 00:28:00,466
of a police accountability, the

890
00:28:00,466 --> 00:28:02,168
job of director of a police

891
00:28:02,168 --> 00:28:03,903
accountability agency is not a

892
00:28:03,903 --> 00:28:05,405
fun one. If you do your job

893
00:28:05,405 --> 00:28:06,873
right, somebody is always mad

894
00:28:06,873 --> 00:28:08,307
at you, sometimes for real

895
00:28:08,307 --> 00:28:10,176
reasons and sometimes for made

896
00:28:10,176 --> 00:28:11,577
up ones. And I am sure you are

897
00:28:11,577 --> 00:28:14,470
familiar with that dynamic as

898
00:28:14,470 --> 00:28:15,515
well. In your positions. But I

899
00:28:15,515 --> 00:28:17,484
will tell you what has made

900
00:28:17,484 --> 00:28:18,500
this job worth it for me. It

901
00:28:18,500 --> 00:28:19,118
s

902
00:28:19,118 --> 00:28:19,652
people, and I

903
00:28:19,652 --> 00:28:21,288
m referring to

904
00:28:21,288 --> 00:28:23,589
the people of King County who

905
00:28:23,589 --> 00:28:25,325
deserve a strong, transparent

906
00:28:25,325 --> 00:28:27,393
and unbiased civilian system of

907
00:28:27,393 --> 00:28:28,661
oversight over law enforcement.

908
00:28:28,661 --> 00:28:30,263
And I am referring to the

909
00:28:30,263 --> 00:28:32,432
people who work at Olio, many

910
00:28:32,432 --> 00:28:34,768
of whom are behind me today,

911
00:28:34,768 --> 00:28:37,270
who deserve your support and

912
00:28:37,270 --> 00:28:38,904
your courage. They are each one

913
00:28:38,904 --> 00:28:40,239
a shining example of what it

914
00:28:40,239 --> 00:28:42,508
means to be a mission driven

915
00:28:42,508 --> 00:28:43,843
public servant. I am not

916
00:28:43,843 --> 00:28:45,545
exaggerating when I say it has

917
00:28:45,545 --> 00:28:47,546
been the honor of my life to

918
00:28:47,546 --> 00:28:49,782
lead this group, to work with

919
00:28:49,782 --> 00:28:52,719
them and to learn from them day

920
00:28:52,719 --> 00:28:54,754
in and day out. So please allow

921
00:28:54,754 --> 00:28:57,958
me to acknowledge them by name.

922
00:28:57,958 --> 00:29:00,958
Liz dop, Hans, Leah Hunter,

923
00:29:00,961 --> 00:29:03,129
Katie Kirshner, Megan Kraft,

924
00:29:03,129 --> 00:29:05,970
Ryan McPhail, Kate Miller,

925
00:29:05,970 --> 00:29:06,632
Vonnie Ananda, Rick Powell,

926
00:29:06,632 --> 00:29:08,632
Jamie Ridgeway, Jamie

927
00:29:09,100 --> 00:29:11,304
Toggenburg, Molly Webster, and

928
00:29:11,304 --> 00:29:13,873
Sophie Celiac. You all are

929
00:29:13,873 --> 00:29:15,741
olio. You are what made Olio

930
00:29:15,741 --> 00:29:17,811
the office it is today and you

931
00:29:17,811 --> 00:29:20,246
will be what keeps Olio in true

932
00:29:20,246 --> 00:29:22,348
service to our communities. And

933
00:29:22,348 --> 00:29:23,649
with that I say to you goodbye

934
00:29:23,649 --> 00:29:25,384
for now, and I thank you

935
00:29:25,384 --> 00:29:25,551
sincerely for the opportunity

936
00:29:25,551 --> 00:29:26,786
you

937
00:29:26,786 --> 00:29:30,356
ve given me to serve the

938
00:29:30,356 --> 00:29:32,756
people of King County.

939
00:29:33,326 --> 00:29:35,726
Thank you, Director Abizaid.

940
00:29:36,329 --> 00:29:37,530
Um, you were very eloquent in

941
00:29:37,530 --> 00:29:37,709
calling out your staff. And

942
00:29:37,709 --> 00:29:39,164
I

943
00:29:39,164 --> 00:29:41,601
ll just say that the tone at

944
00:29:41,601 --> 00:29:43,769
the top is very important. And

945
00:29:43,769 --> 00:29:45,405
you set the stage with your

946
00:29:45,405 --> 00:29:46,172
leadership for the kind of

947
00:29:46,172 --> 00:29:46,606
performance that we

948
00:29:46,606 --> 00:29:48,574
ve seen

949
00:29:48,574 --> 00:29:48,941
from Olio. So thank you for

950
00:29:48,941 --> 00:29:50,377
that.

951
00:29:50,377 --> 00:29:51,644
Thank you very much. Thank you.

952
00:29:51,644 --> 00:29:52,780
So before we get into

953
00:29:52,780 --> 00:29:52,712
discussion, I

954
00:29:52,712 --> 00:29:54,213
m going to ask

955
00:29:54,213 --> 00:29:55,582
for a motion. And then we can

956
00:29:55,582 --> 00:29:58,852
go back to our discussion. So

957
00:29:58,852 --> 00:30:02,822
MAY I have a motion to, um,

958
00:30:02,822 --> 00:30:04,822
move proposed motion 2020

959
00:30:04,924 --> 00:30:06,259
60144.

960
00:30:06,259 --> 00:30:08,194
Sure. So moved.

961
00:30:08,194 --> 00:30:11,194
Thank you. Okay. So now

962
00:30:11,797 --> 00:30:13,599
discussion, colleagues.

963
00:30:13,599 --> 00:30:16,736
Um, happy to start us off. Uh,

964
00:30:16,736 --> 00:30:19,705
director. Thank you. I wanted

965
00:30:19,705 --> 00:30:22,574
to acknowledge, uh, the as you

966
00:30:22,574 --> 00:30:24,100
did, uh, the opportunity that

967
00:30:24,100 --> 00:30:25,411
you had now to present your

968
00:30:25,411 --> 00:30:25,912
final report. And I just wanted

969
00:30:25,912 --> 00:30:27,380
to say that we

970
00:30:27,380 --> 00:30:28,481
re very grateful

971
00:30:28,481 --> 00:30:30,116
for your service to our

972
00:30:30,116 --> 00:30:31,818
community. And I think you have

973
00:30:31,818 --> 00:30:32,752
left Olio in a better place

974
00:30:32,752 --> 00:30:32,906
than you found it. And that

975
00:30:32,906 --> 00:30:34,521
s

976
00:30:34,521 --> 00:30:36,856
important as a sub director.

977
00:30:36,856 --> 00:30:37,857
And I want to say a gratitude

978
00:30:37,857 --> 00:30:38,570
to all the all your staff

979
00:30:38,570 --> 00:30:39,125
that

980
00:30:39,125 --> 00:30:40,993
s here and a commitment

981
00:30:40,993 --> 00:30:42,261
from from me. Uh, and I know

982
00:30:42,261 --> 00:30:43,830
that my colleagues share this

983
00:30:43,830 --> 00:30:45,298
in terms of maintaining the

984
00:30:45,298 --> 00:30:47,660
independence of Olio and

985
00:30:47,660 --> 00:30:48,534
strengthening our, uh,

986
00:30:48,534 --> 00:30:49,769
accountability mechanisms. So

987
00:30:49,769 --> 00:30:51,237
thank you for your service to

988
00:30:51,237 --> 00:30:52,739
all of you and especially to

989
00:30:52,739 --> 00:30:53,706
you as the departing director.

990
00:30:53,706 --> 00:30:54,140
So thank you very much for

991
00:30:54,140 --> 00:30:55,341
that.

992
00:30:55,341 --> 00:30:57,741
Thank you so much.

993
00:30:58,110 --> 00:30:59,244
Um, I wanted to just ask, uh,

994
00:30:59,244 --> 00:31:01,880
turning more to the details of

995
00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:03,283
the report. Um, you know, a

996
00:31:03,283 --> 00:31:05,184
couple of things that I found

997
00:31:05,184 --> 00:31:06,886
notable. Uh, one is the

998
00:31:06,886 --> 00:31:08,821
reduction in the number of

999
00:31:08,821 --> 00:31:09,289
complaints. And, you know, you

1000
00:31:09,289 --> 00:31:10,122
can think of it

1001
00:31:10,122 --> 00:31:12,122
s always tricky

1002
00:31:12,992 --> 00:31:14,593
to look at that number and and

1003
00:31:14,593 --> 00:31:15,728
understand what MAY be behind

1004
00:31:15,728 --> 00:31:17,330
it. Right? Because on the one

1005
00:31:17,330 --> 00:31:19,320
hand, you might say, okay,

1006
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:20,500
well, this is a good, a good

1007
00:31:20,500 --> 00:31:20,934
news scenario because there

1008
00:31:20,934 --> 00:31:21,133
s,

1009
00:31:21,133 --> 00:31:22,735
there

1010
00:31:22,735 --> 00:31:24,437
s, you know, uh, fewer

1011
00:31:24,437 --> 00:31:25,538
incidents that are leading to

1012
00:31:25,538 --> 00:31:25,805
somebody having to complain.

1013
00:31:25,805 --> 00:31:26,500
And that

1014
00:31:26,500 --> 00:31:27,390
s, that

1015
00:31:27,390 --> 00:31:28,641
s a good sign.

1016
00:31:28,641 --> 00:31:31,100
On the other hand, it could be

1017
00:31:31,100 --> 00:31:32,445
because maybe people have are

1018
00:31:32,445 --> 00:31:32,779
not paying enough attention, or

1019
00:31:32,779 --> 00:31:34,380
maybe they

1020
00:31:34,380 --> 00:31:35,915
re not engaged. So

1021
00:31:35,915 --> 00:31:37,116
do we have any sense? And i

1022
00:31:37,116 --> 00:31:38,584
also think of like the number

1023
00:31:38,584 --> 00:31:40,353
of interactions that people are

1024
00:31:40,353 --> 00:31:41,553
having. I know in the past

1025
00:31:41,553 --> 00:31:43,256
year, you know, which is

1026
00:31:43,256 --> 00:31:45,910
obviously a positive thing. You

1027
00:31:45,910 --> 00:31:46,693
know, our crime rate, uh,

1028
00:31:46,693 --> 00:31:48,394
overall has gone down. So maybe

1029
00:31:48,394 --> 00:31:50,960
there are fewer. Any thoughts

1030
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:51,598
about any trend lines that you

1031
00:31:51,598 --> 00:31:52,732
could you could share about

1032
00:31:52,732 --> 00:31:53,833
what you see in that number, in

1033
00:31:53,833 --> 00:31:55,134
that reduction of of

1034
00:31:55,134 --> 00:31:56,102
complaints, which again could

1035
00:31:56,102 --> 00:31:56,255
be seen as a positive? I don

1036
00:31:56,255 --> 00:31:57,370
t

1037
00:31:57,370 --> 00:31:58,938
want to dispel that. It MAY

1038
00:31:58,938 --> 00:32:02,141
just be a reflection of, of,

1039
00:32:02,141 --> 00:32:03,876
of, of our law enforcement, um,

1040
00:32:03,876 --> 00:32:06,479
arm here at the county, the cso

1041
00:32:06,479 --> 00:32:07,714
doing well. Um, but just wanted

1042
00:32:07,714 --> 00:32:09,482
to understand how we can think

1043
00:32:09,482 --> 00:32:11,482
of that number.

1044
00:32:12,886 --> 00:32:13,853
Uh, that that is $1 million

1045
00:32:13,853 --> 00:32:14,387
question. Um, that

1046
00:32:14,387 --> 00:32:15,488
s always the

1047
00:32:15,488 --> 00:32:17,560
question when you see, when you

1048
00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:19,659
see a reductions. Um, I will

1049
00:32:19,659 --> 00:32:19,825
say that the reductions that

1050
00:32:19,825 --> 00:32:20,926
we

1051
00:32:20,926 --> 00:32:22,428
ve seen have been fairly

1052
00:32:22,428 --> 00:32:24,564
consistent over the last few

1053
00:32:24,564 --> 00:32:26,966
years. And so that tells me

1054
00:32:26,966 --> 00:32:28,400
that it is, um, not necessarily

1055
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:28,568
due to people feeling like they

1056
00:32:28,568 --> 00:32:30,568
can

1057
00:32:31,571 --> 00:32:33,639
t reach out. Um, so when

1058
00:32:33,639 --> 00:32:35,441
when we see that kind of, um,

1059
00:32:35,441 --> 00:32:37,510
consistent decrease, I think it

1060
00:32:37,510 --> 00:32:38,210
probably means it probably

1061
00:32:38,210 --> 00:32:39,245
means that we

1062
00:32:39,245 --> 00:32:41,460
re doing things

1063
00:32:41,460 --> 00:32:43,446
better and more effectively.

1064
00:32:44,583 --> 00:32:46,653
Um, I also think that taken,

1065
00:32:46,653 --> 00:32:48,121
um, in conjunction with the

1066
00:32:48,121 --> 00:32:49,288
sustained rates, for example,

1067
00:32:49,288 --> 00:32:52,288
where this year the sustained

1068
00:32:52,492 --> 00:32:55,361
rates jumped higher. Um, it

1069
00:32:55,361 --> 00:32:58,231
means that, you know, there is

1070
00:32:58,231 --> 00:32:59,932
a focus on the actual, you

1071
00:32:59,932 --> 00:33:01,400
know, the actual violations and

1072
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,969
making sure that those that,

1073
00:33:03,969 --> 00:33:05,304
that, um, deputies who MAY have

1074
00:33:05,304 --> 00:33:07,106
engaged in, in policy

1075
00:33:07,106 --> 00:33:09,106
violations are handled

1076
00:33:09,275 --> 00:33:10,776
accordingly. Um, and that

1077
00:33:10,776 --> 00:33:11,777
things are being done to, to

1078
00:33:11,777 --> 00:33:13,446
address those things. So I

1079
00:33:13,446 --> 00:33:14,614
think taking those two numbers

1080
00:33:14,614 --> 00:33:17,140
in conjunction with one

1081
00:33:17,183 --> 00:33:19,685
another, um, to me presents a

1082
00:33:19,685 --> 00:33:21,320
positive picture with the

1083
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:21,921
caveat that we don

1084
00:33:21,921 --> 00:33:23,289
t really

1085
00:33:23,289 --> 00:33:24,357
know. Um, I think one of the

1086
00:33:24,357 --> 00:33:27,357
things that the council is

1087
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,428
going to be looking at soon is

1088
00:33:29,428 --> 00:33:31,230
the idea of improving data

1089
00:33:31,230 --> 00:33:32,980
collection. I think that is

1090
00:33:32,980 --> 00:33:33,933
something that is really

1091
00:33:33,933 --> 00:33:36,436
important for us to be able to

1092
00:33:36,436 --> 00:33:37,837
read more into those numbers.

1093
00:33:37,837 --> 00:33:39,838
Um, when we are, when we start

1094
00:33:39,838 --> 00:33:41,941
collecting better data about

1095
00:33:41,941 --> 00:33:42,908
stops, about, um, you know,

1096
00:33:42,908 --> 00:33:44,430
about reasonable suspicion

1097
00:33:44,430 --> 00:33:45,110
stops about traffic stops, all

1098
00:33:45,110 --> 00:33:46,746
that kind of all that kind of

1099
00:33:46,746 --> 00:33:50,550
stuff. Um, we are going to be

1100
00:33:50,550 --> 00:33:53,819
able to get a better idea of is

1101
00:33:53,819 --> 00:33:55,121
the decline in complaints be a

1102
00:33:55,121 --> 00:33:57,560
positive thing, or is it

1103
00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:58,290
because people are losing, you

1104
00:33:58,290 --> 00:33:58,491
know, trust in the system? I

1105
00:33:58,491 --> 00:34:00,491
haven

1106
00:34:00,793 --> 00:34:02,895
t seen, um, indications

1107
00:34:02,895 --> 00:34:06,495
that it is because people are

1108
00:34:08,634 --> 00:34:11,340
no longer, uh, complaining.

1109
00:34:11,637 --> 00:34:13,740
All right. Thank you.

1110
00:34:13,740 --> 00:34:15,740
Colleagues. Uh Mosqueda.

1111
00:34:16,141 --> 00:34:18,541
Dembowski. Any questions or

1112
00:34:21,981 --> 00:34:23,981
comments? Councilmember

1113
00:34:27,190 --> 00:34:28,153
Mosqueda.

1114
00:34:28,153 --> 00:34:29,956
Thank you very much. Well,

1115
00:34:29,956 --> 00:34:31,957
first, let me add to the

1116
00:34:31,957 --> 00:34:34,357
comments that my colleagues

1117
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:35,895
both, uh, Council Committee

1118
00:34:35,895 --> 00:34:38,230
Chair Lewis and council member,

1119
00:34:38,230 --> 00:34:39,799
but I have noted. Um, you

1120
00:34:39,799 --> 00:34:40,833
mentioned that the team, the

1121
00:34:40,833 --> 00:34:42,401
incredible team behind you,

1122
00:34:42,401 --> 00:34:43,669
which I think is a testament to

1123
00:34:43,669 --> 00:34:45,205
your leadership, that they are

1124
00:34:45,205 --> 00:34:46,739
there today. Uh, you mentioned

1125
00:34:46,739 --> 00:34:48,741
that they are shining examples

1126
00:34:48,741 --> 00:34:51,177
of public servants, and I just

1127
00:34:51,177 --> 00:34:54,460
want to call attention to how

1128
00:34:54,460 --> 00:34:55,615
much your work and your

1129
00:34:55,615 --> 00:34:57,817
presence and your thoughtful

1130
00:34:57,817 --> 00:34:59,719
approach to this office is also

1131
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,721
a shining example of public

1132
00:35:01,721 --> 00:35:03,389
service. So thank you for being

1133
00:35:03,389 --> 00:35:05,792
that public servant to the

1134
00:35:05,792 --> 00:35:08,428
county because of your work and

1135
00:35:08,428 --> 00:35:10,229
your honesty and your

1136
00:35:10,229 --> 00:35:12,264
willingness to try to hold

1137
00:35:12,264 --> 00:35:13,532
institutions accountable. I do

1138
00:35:13,532 --> 00:35:15,267
think that King County is in a

1139
00:35:15,267 --> 00:35:16,902
better place, and I absolutely

1140
00:35:16,902 --> 00:35:18,204
wish we had more time with you

1141
00:35:18,204 --> 00:35:18,737
to continue to grow the

1142
00:35:18,737 --> 00:35:19,710
strength that you

1143
00:35:19,710 --> 00:35:21,710
ve already

1144
00:35:21,240 --> 00:35:22,875
brought to this office. Um, I

1145
00:35:22,875 --> 00:35:25,440
am so appreciative of your

1146
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,130
leadership and for continuing

1147
00:35:27,130 --> 00:35:27,165
to speak truth to power, and

1148
00:35:27,165 --> 00:35:28,380
I

1149
00:35:28,380 --> 00:35:29,615
m so thankful for the

1150
00:35:29,615 --> 00:35:31,450
innovation that you brought to

1151
00:35:31,450 --> 00:35:33,850
this office and to really be

1152
00:35:33,850 --> 00:35:33,352
thoughtful about the engagement

1153
00:35:33,352 --> 00:35:34,654
that you

1154
00:35:34,654 --> 00:35:36,355
ve had with law

1155
00:35:36,355 --> 00:35:38,570
enforcement agencies, with

1156
00:35:38,570 --> 00:35:39,658
community partners, with

1157
00:35:39,658 --> 00:35:41,560
elected officials, with members

1158
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:43,596
of the public. Um, the

1159
00:35:43,596 --> 00:35:43,896
relationship and respect that I

1160
00:35:43,896 --> 00:35:45,980
think you

1161
00:35:45,980 --> 00:35:47,734
ve earned from all of

1162
00:35:47,734 --> 00:35:50,360
those stakeholders is palpable.

1163
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:51,337
And I know that when I had some

1164
00:35:51,337 --> 00:35:52,338
questions about how the

1165
00:35:52,338 --> 00:35:52,704
engagement went with King

1166
00:35:52,704 --> 00:35:53,606
County Sheriff

1167
00:35:53,606 --> 00:35:55,241
s Office and

1168
00:35:55,241 --> 00:35:56,942
inquired about those, there was

1169
00:35:56,942 --> 00:35:58,478
only positive things to say

1170
00:35:58,478 --> 00:35:59,879
about how the office and you,

1171
00:35:59,879 --> 00:36:00,579
as a director, had engaged with

1172
00:36:00,579 --> 00:36:00,847
the King County Sheriff

1173
00:36:00,847 --> 00:36:02,470
s

1174
00:36:02,470 --> 00:36:03,149
Office. Even if you

1175
00:36:03,149 --> 00:36:03,783
re relaying

1176
00:36:03,783 --> 00:36:05,217
information that

1177
00:36:05,217 --> 00:36:06,919
s hard to hear

1178
00:36:06,919 --> 00:36:09,122
about, changes that are desired

1179
00:36:09,122 --> 00:36:12,722
or needed. Um, there was always

1180
00:36:12,892 --> 00:36:14,160
a thread of respect and

1181
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:15,227
appreciation for the role that

1182
00:36:15,227 --> 00:36:17,290
you had and the way that you

1183
00:36:17,290 --> 00:36:17,930
did it. So thank you for your

1184
00:36:17,930 --> 00:36:18,297
time with us. I think it

1185
00:36:18,297 --> 00:36:19,599
s an

1186
00:36:19,599 --> 00:36:20,499
unfortunately cut short

1187
00:36:20,499 --> 00:36:21,667
prematurely, but I

1188
00:36:21,667 --> 00:36:22,868
m forever

1189
00:36:22,868 --> 00:36:23,370
grateful for your service, and

1190
00:36:23,370 --> 00:36:24,136
I

1191
00:36:24,136 --> 00:36:25,838
m hopeful that we will

1192
00:36:25,838 --> 00:36:27,373
continue to build on the

1193
00:36:27,373 --> 00:36:28,707
recommendations that you have

1194
00:36:28,707 --> 00:36:29,976
offered, not just in this

1195
00:36:29,976 --> 00:36:31,777
report, but in the previous

1196
00:36:31,777 --> 00:36:33,446
reports as well, that we know

1197
00:36:33,446 --> 00:36:35,548
some of those recommendations

1198
00:36:35,548 --> 00:36:37,917
are still outstanding. Um, I

1199
00:36:37,917 --> 00:36:39,652
also wanted to just build on

1200
00:36:39,652 --> 00:36:42,888
some of the questions that my

1201
00:36:42,888 --> 00:36:45,888
colleagues had. Um, and wanted

1202
00:36:48,270 --> 00:36:48,961
to ask about, um, sort of the

1203
00:36:48,961 --> 00:36:50,496
way in which you

1204
00:36:50,496 --> 00:36:52,980
re seeing Ice

1205
00:36:52,980 --> 00:36:52,498
officers engage with the King

1206
00:36:52,498 --> 00:36:53,299
County Sheriff

1207
00:36:53,299 --> 00:36:55,299
s Office, I

1208
00:36:55,368 --> 00:36:56,269
guess, wondering how the

1209
00:36:56,269 --> 00:36:57,570
response to the federal

1210
00:36:57,570 --> 00:36:59,570
immigration enforcement that

1211
00:36:59,606 --> 00:37:01,841
you called out, any reflections

1212
00:37:01,841 --> 00:37:04,209
on specific room for growth in

1213
00:37:04,209 --> 00:37:06,212
cxo? Um, we know across the

1214
00:37:06,212 --> 00:37:06,545
country and here locally that

1215
00:37:06,545 --> 00:37:08,545
the sheriff

1216
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,850
s office, um, is

1217
00:37:10,850 --> 00:37:13,252
not in a unique position to

1218
00:37:13,252 --> 00:37:15,154
having Ice officers call and

1219
00:37:15,154 --> 00:37:16,822
try to I think, um,

1220
00:37:16,822 --> 00:37:17,257
inappropriately use our King

1221
00:37:17,257 --> 00:37:18,157
County Sheriff

1222
00:37:18,157 --> 00:37:18,358
s Office when

1223
00:37:18,358 --> 00:37:20,358
they

1224
00:37:20,726 --> 00:37:21,294
re feeling unsafe as, uh,

1225
00:37:21,294 --> 00:37:22,127
even though there

1226
00:37:22,127 --> 00:37:23,762
s lawfully

1227
00:37:23,762 --> 00:37:25,762
protected activities like

1228
00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:29,680
observing Ice proceedings. Um,

1229
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,370
cxo and other local law

1230
00:37:31,370 --> 00:37:33,306
enforcement, I think are, um,

1231
00:37:33,306 --> 00:37:34,740
getting, uh, looped in, uh, to

1232
00:37:34,740 --> 00:37:36,775
calls from ice when they feel

1233
00:37:36,775 --> 00:37:38,778
like they need protection. So

1234
00:37:38,778 --> 00:37:40,413
anything that you hear of in

1235
00:37:40,413 --> 00:37:42,615
that realm that you think is a

1236
00:37:42,615 --> 00:37:44,283
prime example for improvements

1237
00:37:44,283 --> 00:37:46,683
or policy recommendations that

1238
00:37:47,186 --> 00:37:49,722
you want to elaborate on.

1239
00:37:49,722 --> 00:37:51,490
Uh, thank you for your kind

1240
00:37:51,490 --> 00:37:53,692
words. First of all,

1241
00:37:53,692 --> 00:37:55,692
Councilmember Mosqueda, um,

1242
00:37:57,429 --> 00:37:58,731
the, um, there is a timeline on

1243
00:37:58,731 --> 00:38:00,199
the on the, uh, policy

1244
00:38:00,199 --> 00:38:01,000
recommendations on, on the

1245
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:02,768
federal immigration

1246
00:38:02,768 --> 00:38:04,503
enforcement. And we are, um, we

1247
00:38:04,503 --> 00:38:05,438
are waiting right now for, uh,

1248
00:38:05,438 --> 00:38:05,905
responses from the sheriff

1249
00:38:05,905 --> 00:38:07,707
s

1250
00:38:07,707 --> 00:38:09,708
office. I think once that

1251
00:38:09,708 --> 00:38:11,811
happens, I think the plan is to

1252
00:38:11,811 --> 00:38:13,379
have a full briefing on that.

1253
00:38:13,379 --> 00:38:15,681
Um, here in this committee, uh,

1254
00:38:15,681 --> 00:38:18,810
to discuss our recommendations,

1255
00:38:18,150 --> 00:38:20,720
uh, in detail. Um, I will say

1256
00:38:20,720 --> 00:38:22,355
that we, you know, just to be

1257
00:38:22,355 --> 00:38:24,230
completely frank, we anticipate

1258
00:38:24,230 --> 00:38:26,920
that one of our recommendations

1259
00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,362
is going to be a, uh, a hot

1260
00:38:29,362 --> 00:38:31,497
button issue, which is the idea

1261
00:38:31,497 --> 00:38:33,298
that some, um, and this is

1262
00:38:33,298 --> 00:38:34,166
something that, uh, a few

1263
00:38:34,166 --> 00:38:36,100
jurisdictions around the

1264
00:38:36,100 --> 00:38:37,803
country are considering, which

1265
00:38:37,803 --> 00:38:39,839
is whether, um, there should be

1266
00:38:39,839 --> 00:38:41,340
any intervention at all on the

1267
00:38:41,340 --> 00:38:41,573
part of the King County

1268
00:38:41,573 --> 00:38:43,142
Sheriff

1269
00:38:43,142 --> 00:38:44,543
s Office if they

1270
00:38:44,543 --> 00:38:46,943
witness, for example, federal

1271
00:38:47,279 --> 00:38:47,646
law enforcement, um, engaging

1272
00:38:47,646 --> 00:38:48,314
in, let

1273
00:38:48,314 --> 00:38:49,415
s say, excessive force.

1274
00:38:49,415 --> 00:38:50,750
And our recommendation is

1275
00:38:50,750 --> 00:38:53,150
specifically based on excessive

1276
00:38:53,185 --> 00:38:54,854
force. What we heard, uh, time

1277
00:38:54,854 --> 00:38:57,254
and again from community

1278
00:38:57,557 --> 00:38:59,625
members is that, um, they do

1279
00:38:59,625 --> 00:39:02,940
not feel protected. Um, you

1280
00:39:02,940 --> 00:39:04,530
know, if, if, if a person, if a

1281
00:39:04,530 --> 00:39:06,365
civilian is beating them up

1282
00:39:06,365 --> 00:39:07,733
against the law, um, then that

1283
00:39:07,733 --> 00:39:09,769
civilian will be stopped. But

1284
00:39:09,769 --> 00:39:11,404
it is if it is if someone if a

1285
00:39:11,404 --> 00:39:13,804
federal officer is exceeding

1286
00:39:14,700 --> 00:39:15,341
the scope of their duties and

1287
00:39:15,341 --> 00:39:16,509
engaged in excessive force,

1288
00:39:16,509 --> 00:39:18,440
then they do not trust that

1289
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:19,445
that will be stopped. And that

1290
00:39:19,445 --> 00:39:21,280
is currently the guidance. Is

1291
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:22,915
that no intervention at all?

1292
00:39:22,915 --> 00:39:24,817
Uh, one of our, uh,

1293
00:39:24,817 --> 00:39:25,500
recommendations is for the

1294
00:39:25,500 --> 00:39:26,552
sheriff

1295
00:39:26,552 --> 00:39:27,787
s office to, in

1296
00:39:27,787 --> 00:39:29,455
consultation, of course, with

1297
00:39:29,455 --> 00:39:31,855
legal advisors and community

1298
00:39:31,857 --> 00:39:33,525
members to create a policy

1299
00:39:33,525 --> 00:39:35,925
directing deputies to intervene

1300
00:39:35,961 --> 00:39:37,530
in very limited circumstances

1301
00:39:37,530 --> 00:39:38,998
when there is a use of

1302
00:39:38,998 --> 00:39:39,264
excessive force. We anticipate

1303
00:39:39,264 --> 00:39:40,933
that that

1304
00:39:40,933 --> 00:39:43,602
s a hot topic issue,

1305
00:39:43,602 --> 00:39:46,372
and it brings up a lot of, um,

1306
00:39:46,372 --> 00:39:47,373
legal issues that are somewhat

1307
00:39:47,373 --> 00:39:47,707
novel because it

1308
00:39:47,707 --> 00:39:48,840
s not

1309
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,209
something that has been really

1310
00:39:50,209 --> 00:39:50,809
done before, but it is

1311
00:39:50,809 --> 00:39:52,780
something that some

1312
00:39:52,780 --> 00:39:53,179
jurisdictions are currently

1313
00:39:53,179 --> 00:39:54,980
considering. And we believe

1314
00:39:54,980 --> 00:39:56,316
that King County, um, can be on

1315
00:39:56,316 --> 00:39:57,883
the front lines when it comes

1316
00:39:57,883 --> 00:39:59,518
to that, just like those other

1317
00:39:59,518 --> 00:40:01,120
jurisdictions are when it comes

1318
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,520
to protecting our immigrant

1319
00:40:04,230 --> 00:40:05,457
communities. Um, and, uh, there

1320
00:40:05,457 --> 00:40:07,559
will, like I said, hopefully be

1321
00:40:07,559 --> 00:40:07,725
a, um, not hopefully. I

1322
00:40:07,725 --> 00:40:08,694
m

1323
00:40:08,694 --> 00:40:10,662
certain there will be a full

1324
00:40:10,662 --> 00:40:11,864
briefing on on this once, once

1325
00:40:11,864 --> 00:40:12,970
the, uh, response from the

1326
00:40:12,970 --> 00:40:13,265
sheriff

1327
00:40:13,265 --> 00:40:14,733
s office, um, is

1328
00:40:14,733 --> 00:40:17,770
presented as well. And then we

1329
00:40:17,770 --> 00:40:18,738
can have a further discussion

1330
00:40:18,738 --> 00:40:20,739
in the committee when that

1331
00:40:20,739 --> 00:40:21,700
happens, too. Not sure I

1332
00:40:21,700 --> 00:40:23,700
ll be

1333
00:40:23,750 --> 00:40:24,843
here for it, but it will it

1334
00:40:24,843 --> 00:40:26,843
will happen.

1335
00:40:27,380 --> 00:40:28,815
And, chair, just a follow up.

1336
00:40:28,815 --> 00:40:30,815
Go ahead.

1337
00:40:31,170 --> 00:40:33,118
Uh, thanks. Um, I appreciate

1338
00:40:33,118 --> 00:40:34,720
the, you know, for

1339
00:40:34,720 --> 00:40:34,920
foreshadowing of the report

1340
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:36,522
that

1341
00:40:36,522 --> 00:40:38,491
s coming. And I also think

1342
00:40:38,491 --> 00:40:40,559
that there is an opportunity

1343
00:40:40,559 --> 00:40:42,662
for us to remind members of the

1344
00:40:42,662 --> 00:40:44,290
public and everybody who is a

1345
00:40:44,290 --> 00:40:47,567
public servant as well, what is

1346
00:40:47,567 --> 00:40:48,867
a legally protected, um, a an

1347
00:40:48,867 --> 00:40:49,680
observer role, right. There

1348
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:51,680
s

1349
00:40:51,570 --> 00:40:53,500
lawfully protected observer

1350
00:40:53,500 --> 00:40:54,740
roles that anybody can have.

1351
00:40:54,740 --> 00:40:56,776
And in fact, Governor Ferguson

1352
00:40:56,776 --> 00:40:58,510
encouraged the residents of

1353
00:40:58,510 --> 00:41:01,510
Washington state to continue to

1354
00:41:01,580 --> 00:41:04,116
be vigilant to film ice, to,

1355
00:41:04,116 --> 00:41:05,651
um, make sure that when we see

1356
00:41:05,651 --> 00:41:06,752
Ice operating in our

1357
00:41:06,752 --> 00:41:07,920
communities, we hold them

1358
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:08,387
accountable by filming them.

1359
00:41:08,387 --> 00:41:08,921
Obviously, we don

1360
00:41:08,921 --> 00:41:10,690
t want to put

1361
00:41:10,690 --> 00:41:12,992
people in danger by any means,

1362
00:41:12,992 --> 00:41:14,293
but you can legally observe,

1363
00:41:14,293 --> 00:41:14,494
you can call out the fact that

1364
00:41:14,494 --> 00:41:15,127
they

1365
00:41:15,127 --> 00:41:17,929
re in a neighborhood. You

1366
00:41:17,929 --> 00:41:19,565
can use a horn and, um, noise

1367
00:41:19,565 --> 00:41:19,766
machines to let people know if

1368
00:41:19,766 --> 00:41:21,333
that

1369
00:41:21,333 --> 00:41:23,436
s what the community, um,

1370
00:41:23,436 --> 00:41:24,870
strategy and desire is. All of

1371
00:41:24,870 --> 00:41:28,240
those things are legal. And to

1372
00:41:28,240 --> 00:41:29,708
the degree that a, uh, legal

1373
00:41:29,708 --> 00:41:31,844
observer is using those

1374
00:41:31,844 --> 00:41:34,244
techniques and tactics that

1375
00:41:34,313 --> 00:41:36,616
should not trigger a Ice agent

1376
00:41:36,616 --> 00:41:37,950
calling any officer to

1377
00:41:37,950 --> 00:41:39,251
intervene in those situations.

1378
00:41:39,251 --> 00:41:40,452
So I appreciate the

1379
00:41:40,452 --> 00:41:41,520
foreshadowing of the report to

1380
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:42,621
come and just would encourage

1381
00:41:42,621 --> 00:41:44,122
as well, looking at other

1382
00:41:44,122 --> 00:41:46,522
jurisdictions that have helped

1383
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:49,996
to provide education and, um,

1384
00:41:49,996 --> 00:41:51,597
revamping of internal policies

1385
00:41:51,597 --> 00:41:53,800
so that everybody knows what

1386
00:41:53,800 --> 00:41:55,568
the legally observed,

1387
00:41:55,568 --> 00:41:57,568
protected, legally legal

1388
00:41:57,703 --> 00:41:59,720
observers can do, um, in their

1389
00:41:59,720 --> 00:41:59,238
citizen roles so that they

1390
00:41:59,238 --> 00:42:01,600
don

1391
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,176
t get in a position where

1392
00:42:03,176 --> 00:42:05,440
ice is. I think, you know, um,

1393
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:06,780
trying to ask a law enforcement

1394
00:42:06,780 --> 00:42:06,311
officer to intervene when

1395
00:42:06,311 --> 00:42:06,879
someone

1396
00:42:06,879 --> 00:42:07,513
s just legally

1397
00:42:07,513 --> 00:42:08,547
observing. So that

1398
00:42:08,547 --> 00:42:10,547
s a slight,

1399
00:42:10,616 --> 00:42:11,951
slight different category than,

1400
00:42:11,951 --> 00:42:12,384
um, which you articulated, but

1401
00:42:12,384 --> 00:42:13,185
I think it

1402
00:42:13,185 --> 00:42:15,585
s an important one

1403
00:42:16,489 --> 00:42:18,624
as well. And, um, and then my

1404
00:42:18,624 --> 00:42:21,624
last question is, uh, really

1405
00:42:21,861 --> 00:42:24,830
related to the, um, like the

1406
00:42:24,830 --> 00:42:27,466
requirement to take action in

1407
00:42:27,466 --> 00:42:28,968
the packet on pages 41 and 42,

1408
00:42:28,968 --> 00:42:30,870
it talks about how olios

1409
00:42:30,870 --> 00:42:32,870
policies or investigative

1410
00:42:33,473 --> 00:42:35,473
recommendations are potentially

1411
00:42:35,807 --> 00:42:37,977
considered and then acted on.

1412
00:42:37,977 --> 00:42:39,712
Uh, we have seen in the report

1413
00:42:39,712 --> 00:42:40,913
that cxo is not necessarily

1414
00:42:40,913 --> 00:42:42,147
required to take action on the

1415
00:42:42,147 --> 00:42:43,549
recommendations. That was a

1416
00:42:43,549 --> 00:42:45,518
point of discussion that I had

1417
00:42:45,518 --> 00:42:46,718
with folks, which led lent

1418
00:42:46,718 --> 00:42:47,687
itself to the discussion I

1419
00:42:47,687 --> 00:42:49,288
mentioned earlier, where people

1420
00:42:49,288 --> 00:42:50,723
really had positive things to

1421
00:42:50,723 --> 00:42:52,391
say about the interaction and

1422
00:42:52,391 --> 00:42:53,792
and the the professional

1423
00:42:53,792 --> 00:42:56,192
relationship with the office

1424
00:42:56,428 --> 00:42:59,428
itself. But there there does

1425
00:43:00,399 --> 00:43:01,834
seem to be, um, a clear, um,

1426
00:43:01,834 --> 00:43:03,834
delineation between a

1427
00:43:04,236 --> 00:43:06,572
recommendation versus, um, like

1428
00:43:06,572 --> 00:43:08,941
a directive to include the

1429
00:43:08,941 --> 00:43:10,142
policy outcomes. So are there

1430
00:43:10,142 --> 00:43:12,378
other agencies that are

1431
00:43:12,378 --> 00:43:14,614
similarly situated to you that,

1432
00:43:14,614 --> 00:43:14,780
um, receive recommendations but

1433
00:43:14,780 --> 00:43:16,150
don

1434
00:43:16,150 --> 00:43:17,315
t have to act on it? For

1435
00:43:17,315 --> 00:43:17,550
example, like, does the

1436
00:43:17,550 --> 00:43:19,550
auditor

1437
00:43:20,219 --> 00:43:22,388
s office mean that an

1438
00:43:22,388 --> 00:43:23,856
agency must implement a

1439
00:43:23,856 --> 00:43:26,256
recommendation, or are those

1440
00:43:26,292 --> 00:43:27,660
also recommendations and not a

1441
00:43:27,660 --> 00:43:29,628
directive? How does it compare

1442
00:43:29,628 --> 00:43:31,628
between similarly situated

1443
00:43:32,398 --> 00:43:34,633
offices that are independent?

1444
00:43:34,633 --> 00:43:36,769
I think generally speaking,

1445
00:43:36,769 --> 00:43:39,471
yes. Most of the time it is

1446
00:43:39,471 --> 00:43:39,939
recommendations and there is no

1447
00:43:39,939 --> 00:43:40,339
way. And they

1448
00:43:40,339 --> 00:43:41,740
re not

1449
00:43:41,740 --> 00:43:44,276
directives, there is no way to

1450
00:43:44,276 --> 00:43:46,779
force any agency to take the

1451
00:43:46,779 --> 00:43:49,682
actions. Um, what we have

1452
00:43:49,682 --> 00:43:51,951
started doing and, um, what we

1453
00:43:51,951 --> 00:43:54,654
have started doing is we now do

1454
00:43:54,654 --> 00:43:57,623
a six month and 12 month kind

1455
00:43:57,623 --> 00:43:59,125
of evaluation period after we

1456
00:43:59,125 --> 00:44:00,759
make recommendations so that we

1457
00:44:00,759 --> 00:44:02,610
can update the council and the

1458
00:44:02,610 --> 00:44:03,262
public on which of our

1459
00:44:03,262 --> 00:44:04,630
recommendations have been

1460
00:44:04,630 --> 00:44:05,731
considered, which have been

1461
00:44:05,731 --> 00:44:07,465
implemented, which have been

1462
00:44:07,465 --> 00:44:09,535
rejected, which are pending, so

1463
00:44:09,535 --> 00:44:11,670
that people have a better idea.

1464
00:44:11,670 --> 00:44:14,673
Um, but really, the the, the

1465
00:44:14,673 --> 00:44:16,742
power that we have is, is to

1466
00:44:16,742 --> 00:44:17,743
bring it to light. Um, I will

1467
00:44:17,743 --> 00:44:17,922
say, just to echo what you

1468
00:44:17,922 --> 00:44:19,544
ve

1469
00:44:19,544 --> 00:44:21,944
said about about the

1470
00:44:22,114 --> 00:44:23,516
relationship, um, you know, it

1471
00:44:23,516 --> 00:44:25,351
is it is it is a two way

1472
00:44:25,351 --> 00:44:25,584
street, um, with us in the

1473
00:44:25,584 --> 00:44:27,153
sheriff

1474
00:44:27,153 --> 00:44:29,988
s office. Um, so just

1475
00:44:29,988 --> 00:44:32,324
like, um, we are, um,

1476
00:44:32,324 --> 00:44:33,125
respectful of of their role,

1477
00:44:33,125 --> 00:44:34,360
and we make our

1478
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:36,760
recommendations. They are also

1479
00:44:36,762 --> 00:44:38,630
respectful of our role and us

1480
00:44:38,630 --> 00:44:40,630
making recommendations.

1481
00:44:40,165 --> 00:44:41,600
Sometimes we disagree. Uh,

1482
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:43,101
sometimes recommendations are

1483
00:44:43,101 --> 00:44:43,702
held up for other reasons.

1484
00:44:43,702 --> 00:44:43,902
According to the sheriff

1485
00:44:43,902 --> 00:44:44,871
s

1486
00:44:44,871 --> 00:44:45,704
office, it could be something

1487
00:44:45,704 --> 00:44:46,538
like money. It could be

1488
00:44:46,538 --> 00:44:48,538
something like staffing.

1489
00:44:48,975 --> 00:44:50,676
Whatever the case is. Um, so

1490
00:44:50,676 --> 00:44:52,678
that is why we have we started

1491
00:44:52,678 --> 00:44:54,313
the six month and 12 month

1492
00:44:54,313 --> 00:44:54,480
implementation evaluation that

1493
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:55,547
we

1494
00:44:55,547 --> 00:44:57,483
re going to be doing moving

1495
00:44:57,483 --> 00:44:58,884
forward, uh, to let people know

1496
00:44:58,884 --> 00:45:00,850
and let the council know which

1497
00:45:00,850 --> 00:45:01,520
of our recommendations are

1498
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:02,120
being are being followed and

1499
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,120
which aren

1500
00:45:04,323 --> 00:45:06,959
t. Uh, and we are

1501
00:45:06,959 --> 00:45:07,626
also working through processes

1502
00:45:07,626 --> 00:45:08,494
with the sheriff

1503
00:45:08,494 --> 00:45:09,462
s office right

1504
00:45:09,462 --> 00:45:10,663
now to make sure that our

1505
00:45:10,663 --> 00:45:12,297
communication is even better

1506
00:45:12,297 --> 00:45:13,566
than it has been. Um, and to

1507
00:45:13,566 --> 00:45:15,434
make sure that things are being

1508
00:45:15,434 --> 00:45:17,436
presented in a holistic way,

1509
00:45:17,436 --> 00:45:19,171
both to the council and and to

1510
00:45:19,171 --> 00:45:21,774
the public. But to answer that,

1511
00:45:21,774 --> 00:45:23,942
that question again, um, it is,

1512
00:45:23,942 --> 00:45:25,578
generally speaking, uh, I would

1513
00:45:25,578 --> 00:45:27,978
say most, uh, civilian

1514
00:45:28,470 --> 00:45:30,490
oversight agencies do not have

1515
00:45:30,490 --> 00:45:31,550
the ability to give a directive

1516
00:45:31,550 --> 00:45:32,651
to a law enforcement agency.

1517
00:45:32,651 --> 00:45:34,119
They only present

1518
00:45:34,119 --> 00:45:34,520
recommendations. And I believe

1519
00:45:34,520 --> 00:45:35,487
that the auditor

1520
00:45:35,487 --> 00:45:36,522
s officers

1521
00:45:36,522 --> 00:45:36,755
office is the same. It

1522
00:45:36,755 --> 00:45:38,560
s not

1523
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,456
necessarily that someone is

1524
00:45:40,893 --> 00:45:42,940
required to, uh, to take the

1525
00:45:42,940 --> 00:45:43,762
action. They are required to

1526
00:45:43,762 --> 00:45:44,129
respond to the recommendations

1527
00:45:44,129 --> 00:45:45,230
of the sheriff

1528
00:45:45,230 --> 00:45:45,964
s office. Uh,

1529
00:45:45,964 --> 00:45:46,198
the recommendations of the

1530
00:45:46,198 --> 00:45:46,966
auditor

1531
00:45:46,966 --> 00:45:47,139
s office, but they

1532
00:45:47,139 --> 00:45:48,300
re

1533
00:45:48,300 --> 00:45:49,969
not necessarily required to

1534
00:45:49,969 --> 00:45:52,872
take the action, which is also

1535
00:45:52,872 --> 00:45:54,807
why the auditor also does, um,

1536
00:45:54,807 --> 00:45:55,674
you know, follow up reports to

1537
00:45:55,674 --> 00:45:57,142
indicate which of their

1538
00:45:57,142 --> 00:45:59,142
recommendations have been

1539
00:46:00,345 --> 00:46:01,713
accepted and which have not.

1540
00:46:01,713 --> 00:46:03,649
Okay. Great. And that was part

1541
00:46:03,649 --> 00:46:06,419
of my question to do they do

1542
00:46:06,419 --> 00:46:06,618
the agencies respond even if

1543
00:46:06,618 --> 00:46:07,719
they

1544
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:09,355
re not a policies that are

1545
00:46:09,355 --> 00:46:11,523
adopted? It sounds like yes to

1546
00:46:11,523 --> 00:46:12,224
Olios recommendation. To Olios

1547
00:46:12,224 --> 00:46:12,491
recommendation. There

1548
00:46:12,491 --> 00:46:13,358
s a

1549
00:46:13,358 --> 00:46:13,692
response whether or not it

1550
00:46:13,692 --> 00:46:15,428
s

1551
00:46:15,428 --> 00:46:15,594
adopted. Um, that way there

1552
00:46:15,594 --> 00:46:16,995
s

1553
00:46:16,995 --> 00:46:17,963
like a full dialogue on the

1554
00:46:17,963 --> 00:46:19,732
concept.

1555
00:46:19,732 --> 00:46:20,732
Yes. And sometimes it takes a

1556
00:46:20,732 --> 00:46:21,367
little bit longer than others

1557
00:46:21,367 --> 00:46:22,100
because obviously they

1558
00:46:22,100 --> 00:46:23,469
re very

1559
00:46:23,469 --> 00:46:24,336
complicated matters. And, you

1560
00:46:24,336 --> 00:46:25,437
know, they have to run it

1561
00:46:25,437 --> 00:46:26,371
through their policy people and

1562
00:46:26,371 --> 00:46:28,730
all that stuff. So it takes

1563
00:46:28,730 --> 00:46:30,420
some time. But generally

1564
00:46:30,420 --> 00:46:31,510
speaking, um, you know, first

1565
00:46:31,510 --> 00:46:33,312
we request an initial response

1566
00:46:33,312 --> 00:46:35,800
from them that we publish at

1567
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:36,448
the same time as publishing our

1568
00:46:36,448 --> 00:46:38,150
report so that people can see

1569
00:46:38,150 --> 00:46:39,251
everything. And then we also

1570
00:46:39,251 --> 00:46:41,621
let folks know when we

1571
00:46:41,621 --> 00:46:43,989
anticipate a more, um, a more

1572
00:46:43,989 --> 00:46:45,324
full or a deeper, uh, response.

1573
00:46:45,324 --> 00:46:47,325
And then sometimes we will

1574
00:46:47,325 --> 00:46:50,325
respond to their response and

1575
00:46:51,797 --> 00:46:53,599
so on.

1576
00:46:53,599 --> 00:46:55,599
Thank you.

1577
00:46:56,168 --> 00:46:58,337
So, director, uh, Abizaid, in

1578
00:46:58,337 --> 00:47:00,139
keeping with the theme of

1579
00:47:00,139 --> 00:47:02,539
recommendations, I have a

1580
00:47:02,707 --> 00:47:05,611
couple of questions. Um, of the

1581
00:47:05,611 --> 00:47:07,145
12 recommendations that you

1582
00:47:07,145 --> 00:47:09,281
mentioned in the report, what

1583
00:47:09,281 --> 00:47:10,916
allegation group did they

1584
00:47:10,916 --> 00:47:13,520
address to? Yes. Do they

1585
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,120
address or attempt to remedy?

1586
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,289
And then of those 12, do you

1587
00:47:17,289 --> 00:47:18,824
know yet? Um, how many have

1588
00:47:18,824 --> 00:47:20,824
been partially implemented,

1589
00:47:22,610 --> 00:47:23,496
fully implemented or, um,

1590
00:47:23,496 --> 00:47:25,496
rejected?

1591
00:47:26,566 --> 00:47:27,833
Um, I will answer that by

1592
00:47:27,833 --> 00:47:29,668
telling you that you should be

1593
00:47:29,668 --> 00:47:32,505
receiving in the next couple of

1594
00:47:32,505 --> 00:47:35,607
days. Um, a kind of a

1595
00:47:35,607 --> 00:47:36,976
guideline, um, of all of our

1596
00:47:36,976 --> 00:47:38,343
policy, all of our outstanding

1597
00:47:38,343 --> 00:47:39,178
policy recommendations, or

1598
00:47:39,178 --> 00:47:40,679
really all of our policy

1599
00:47:40,679 --> 00:47:42,470
recommendations, period, and

1600
00:47:42,470 --> 00:47:43,448
going through them and saying

1601
00:47:43,448 --> 00:47:45,830
what percentage of them were

1602
00:47:45,830 --> 00:47:47,830
fully adopted, partially

1603
00:47:47,185 --> 00:47:48,720
adopted, not adopting and and

1604
00:47:48,720 --> 00:47:50,789
pending. So we will be sharing

1605
00:47:50,789 --> 00:47:52,191
that with, uh, council members

1606
00:47:52,191 --> 00:47:53,759
in the next couple of days so

1607
00:47:53,759 --> 00:47:55,227
that you have a complete

1608
00:47:55,227 --> 00:47:57,263
understanding of, of each

1609
00:47:57,263 --> 00:47:59,264
recommendation. And, and what,

1610
00:47:59,264 --> 00:48:01,200
um, what the status of it is

1611
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:01,934
right now as far as allegation

1612
00:48:01,934 --> 00:48:03,735
groups, we don

1613
00:48:03,735 --> 00:48:03,902
t really um, we

1614
00:48:03,902 --> 00:48:05,902
don

1615
00:48:06,338 --> 00:48:07,839
t really keep track of the

1616
00:48:07,839 --> 00:48:08,774
recommendations in terms of in

1617
00:48:08,774 --> 00:48:09,107
terms of allegation groups,

1618
00:48:09,107 --> 00:48:10,800
because they

1619
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:12,800
re not necessarily

1620
00:48:12,178 --> 00:48:14,546
directly related to violations

1621
00:48:14,546 --> 00:48:15,614
or investigations. Uh, some of

1622
00:48:15,614 --> 00:48:17,182
the recommendations are not

1623
00:48:17,182 --> 00:48:18,784
necessarily related to specific

1624
00:48:18,784 --> 00:48:20,519
allegations, but they are just

1625
00:48:20,519 --> 00:48:22,221
recommendations for improvement

1626
00:48:22,221 --> 00:48:23,756
or clarity or taking a

1627
00:48:23,756 --> 00:48:23,922
different stance. And so we

1628
00:48:23,922 --> 00:48:25,491
don

1629
00:48:25,491 --> 00:48:27,426
t really group them that

1630
00:48:27,426 --> 00:48:28,261
way. But I think the document

1631
00:48:28,261 --> 00:48:29,762
that you receive in the next

1632
00:48:29,762 --> 00:48:30,729
couple of days will be very

1633
00:48:30,729 --> 00:48:32,331
informative in terms of

1634
00:48:32,331 --> 00:48:33,699
answering those, answering

1635
00:48:33,699 --> 00:48:35,699
those questions.

1636
00:48:36,100 --> 00:48:38,690
Great. Thank you. Um, I have

1637
00:48:38,690 --> 00:48:38,270
one more question. Uh, and

1638
00:48:38,270 --> 00:48:40,270
that

1639
00:48:40,906 --> 00:48:42,842
s about the external, um,

1640
00:48:42,842 --> 00:48:44,842
allegations. You mentioned

1641
00:48:45,344 --> 00:48:48,246
that, um, some of those are

1642
00:48:48,246 --> 00:48:50,415
handled in an expedited way

1643
00:48:50,415 --> 00:48:52,384
when preliminary evidence was

1644
00:48:52,384 --> 00:48:52,618
deemed to be conclusive by the

1645
00:48:52,618 --> 00:48:54,252
sheriff

1646
00:48:54,252 --> 00:48:55,120
s office. So what is

1647
00:48:55,120 --> 00:48:56,322
the standard that

1648
00:48:56,322 --> 00:48:58,322
s used to

1649
00:48:58,524 --> 00:49:00,524
evaluate inclusiveness?

1650
00:49:01,260 --> 00:49:02,160
Uh, so, uh, the classification

1651
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,560
of preliminary evidence is

1652
00:49:04,964 --> 00:49:05,297
conclusive is first proposed by

1653
00:49:05,297 --> 00:49:07,233
the sheriff

1654
00:49:07,233 --> 00:49:09,368
s office. Um, when

1655
00:49:09,368 --> 00:49:11,337
they look at when they start an

1656
00:49:11,337 --> 00:49:12,971
investigation, um, they first

1657
00:49:12,971 --> 00:49:14,173
propose it. But we have to

1658
00:49:14,173 --> 00:49:15,240
agree with them that the

1659
00:49:15,240 --> 00:49:16,809
preliminary evidence is

1660
00:49:16,809 --> 00:49:18,677
conclusive. And what that means

1661
00:49:18,677 --> 00:49:20,179
is that there is, um, you know,

1662
00:49:20,179 --> 00:49:22,579
clear and convincing evidence

1663
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:24,583
that, um, the whatever is being

1664
00:49:24,583 --> 00:49:24,784
alleged either happened or, or

1665
00:49:24,784 --> 00:49:26,784
didn

1666
00:49:27,219 --> 00:49:27,453
t happen, uh, because

1667
00:49:27,453 --> 00:49:29,540
sheriff

1668
00:49:29,540 --> 00:49:30,555
s office deputies now,

1669
00:49:30,555 --> 00:49:31,891
uh, a lot of them are wearing

1670
00:49:31,891 --> 00:49:33,425
body worn cameras. That has

1671
00:49:33,425 --> 00:49:35,227
made our job a lot easier in

1672
00:49:35,227 --> 00:49:37,620
terms of identifying whether

1673
00:49:37,620 --> 00:49:39,264
conduct has occurred or not.

1674
00:49:39,264 --> 00:49:40,565
And preliminary evidence being

1675
00:49:40,565 --> 00:49:42,334
conclusive does not necessarily

1676
00:49:42,334 --> 00:49:43,735
mean that an allegation is not

1677
00:49:43,735 --> 00:49:44,736
sustained. Sometimes the

1678
00:49:44,736 --> 00:49:46,571
preliminary evidence is

1679
00:49:46,571 --> 00:49:48,473
conclusive, and so it will go

1680
00:49:48,473 --> 00:49:49,374
straight to, um, you know, for

1681
00:49:49,374 --> 00:49:50,709
example, doing some kind of

1682
00:49:50,709 --> 00:49:50,909
performance related training if

1683
00:49:50,909 --> 00:49:51,910
there

1684
00:49:51,910 --> 00:49:52,111
s no discipline involved,

1685
00:49:52,111 --> 00:49:52,845
if it

1686
00:49:52,845 --> 00:49:53,450
s a minor, if it

1687
00:49:53,450 --> 00:49:54,380
s a

1688
00:49:54,380 --> 00:49:56,181
minor violation, things like

1689
00:49:56,181 --> 00:49:59,684
that. Um, it might go that

1690
00:49:59,684 --> 00:50:02,221
route as well. Uh, but it is a

1691
00:50:02,221 --> 00:50:02,555
process that occurs both within

1692
00:50:02,555 --> 00:50:03,723
the sheriff

1693
00:50:03,723 --> 00:50:05,824
s office and at

1694
00:50:05,824 --> 00:50:07,926
Olio separately, where we have

1695
00:50:07,926 --> 00:50:08,961
to agree, um, whether there is

1696
00:50:08,961 --> 00:50:10,962
clear and convincing evidence

1697
00:50:10,962 --> 00:50:12,698
within what we see, uh, that

1698
00:50:12,698 --> 00:50:13,799
shows us, uh, clearly what

1699
00:50:13,799 --> 00:50:13,999
happened. And so then there

1700
00:50:13,999 --> 00:50:15,330
s

1701
00:50:15,330 --> 00:50:16,102
no, um, there

1702
00:50:16,102 --> 00:50:17,536
s no necessity

1703
00:50:17,536 --> 00:50:17,702
for further investigation. So

1704
00:50:17,702 --> 00:50:19,400
it

1705
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:20,305
s a way to kind of, uh, and

1706
00:50:20,305 --> 00:50:22,140
this is, this is a category

1707
00:50:22,140 --> 00:50:22,574
that we came up with together

1708
00:50:22,574 --> 00:50:23,275
with the sheriff

1709
00:50:23,275 --> 00:50:24,243
s office when

1710
00:50:24,243 --> 00:50:25,677
we were reworking the

1711
00:50:25,677 --> 00:50:25,877
classification system. It

1712
00:50:25,877 --> 00:50:27,212
s

1713
00:50:27,212 --> 00:50:28,981
something that took maybe a

1714
00:50:28,981 --> 00:50:30,749
year and a half to to develop

1715
00:50:30,749 --> 00:50:32,500
this new classification system.

1716
00:50:32,500 --> 00:50:35,540
And this was one of the ways to

1717
00:50:35,540 --> 00:50:36,822
be able to make sure to, uh,

1718
00:50:36,822 --> 00:50:38,190
handle, uh, you know, handle

1719
00:50:38,190 --> 00:50:40,326
all the complaints that we get,

1720
00:50:40,326 --> 00:50:42,561
but do so, uh, you know, in a

1721
00:50:42,561 --> 00:50:44,797
fair manner that is fair to

1722
00:50:44,797 --> 00:50:46,198
complainants and, and law

1723
00:50:46,198 --> 00:50:46,665
enforcement officers as well.

1724
00:50:46,665 --> 00:50:47,166
Uh, and it

1725
00:50:47,166 --> 00:50:47,632
s been it

1726
00:50:47,632 --> 00:50:49,234
s been

1727
00:50:49,234 --> 00:50:50,870
working really well with the

1728
00:50:50,870 --> 00:50:52,704
aid of, uh, I would say body

1729
00:50:52,704 --> 00:50:54,106
worn cameras has made it a lot

1730
00:50:54,106 --> 00:50:56,106
easier.

1731
00:50:56,642 --> 00:50:57,676
Great. Thank you very much.

1732
00:50:57,676 --> 00:50:58,977
Questions?

1733
00:50:58,977 --> 00:51:00,112
Thank you. Sorry. I want to

1734
00:51:00,112 --> 00:51:01,130
make sure that other folks got

1735
00:51:01,130 --> 00:51:02,414
a chance to ask questions

1736
00:51:02,414 --> 00:51:04,383
before I ask my next one. So,

1737
00:51:04,383 --> 00:51:06,180
um, uh, director, I said one of

1738
00:51:06,180 --> 00:51:08,420
the things that I also wanted

1739
00:51:08,420 --> 00:51:10,389
to, uh, note on your report on

1740
00:51:10,389 --> 00:51:12,391
this is on page 19, where you

1741
00:51:12,391 --> 00:51:15,940
talk about the, um, the number

1742
00:51:15,940 --> 00:51:16,528
of allegations against the

1743
00:51:16,528 --> 00:51:18,263
individual officers and kind of

1744
00:51:18,263 --> 00:51:19,565
how many are deputies and how

1745
00:51:19,565 --> 00:51:20,699
many people. And obviously, you

1746
00:51:20,699 --> 00:51:22,735
know, important to note that,

1747
00:51:22,735 --> 00:51:24,360
like the majority of our

1748
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:25,170
deputies did not actually have

1749
00:51:25,170 --> 00:51:26,938
any allegations against them.

1750
00:51:26,938 --> 00:51:30,509
And then it kind of breaks down

1751
00:51:30,509 --> 00:51:32,440
the numbers. And, um, and so I

1752
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,913
think one of the questions that

1753
00:51:34,913 --> 00:51:36,348
I have is with, with deputies

1754
00:51:36,348 --> 00:51:38,170
that had it

1755
00:51:38,170 --> 00:51:40,417
s a small number,

1756
00:51:40,919 --> 00:51:44,519
um, that have six or more

1757
00:51:44,690 --> 00:51:46,491
allegations in a calendar year,

1758
00:51:46,491 --> 00:51:47,192
do you all kind of and I

1759
00:51:47,192 --> 00:51:47,526
realize that, like, you

1760
00:51:47,526 --> 00:51:48,593
re not

1761
00:51:48,593 --> 00:51:49,728
necessarily involved in the

1762
00:51:49,728 --> 00:51:49,900
discipline part of this, but

1763
00:51:49,900 --> 00:51:50,629
I

1764
00:51:50,629 --> 00:51:50,808
m just wondering if there

1765
00:51:50,808 --> 00:51:52,808
s

1766
00:51:53,431 --> 00:51:55,333
any kind of tracking over time.

1767
00:51:55,333 --> 00:51:57,636
Um, of, like, who those

1768
00:51:57,636 --> 00:51:58,237
deputies might be. And, you

1769
00:51:58,237 --> 00:51:58,770
know, whether there

1770
00:51:58,770 --> 00:52:00,171
s kind of

1771
00:52:00,171 --> 00:52:00,344
patterns year over year, like

1772
00:52:00,344 --> 00:52:01,306
you

1773
00:52:01,306 --> 00:52:01,573
re seeing like the there

1774
00:52:01,573 --> 00:52:02,608
s

1775
00:52:02,608 --> 00:52:03,800
a little bit of a pattern here

1776
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:04,210
and that there

1777
00:52:04,210 --> 00:52:05,410
s like a very

1778
00:52:05,410 --> 00:52:07,810
high number of allegations

1779
00:52:07,913 --> 00:52:09,547
against a, in this case, three.

1780
00:52:09,547 --> 00:52:09,715
There were two last year. I

1781
00:52:09,715 --> 00:52:10,648
m

1782
00:52:10,648 --> 00:52:11,160
just trying to understand like

1783
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:11,751
whether that

1784
00:52:11,751 --> 00:52:13,318
s something that

1785
00:52:13,318 --> 00:52:15,121
you all look at at sort of the,

1786
00:52:15,121 --> 00:52:15,320
the pattern. And I realize that

1787
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:16,589
there

1788
00:52:16,589 --> 00:52:17,522
s complicated issues

1789
00:52:17,522 --> 00:52:19,125
around the collective

1790
00:52:19,125 --> 00:52:20,425
bargaining agreements. And in

1791
00:52:20,425 --> 00:52:21,593
terms of the discipline. But is

1792
00:52:21,593 --> 00:52:23,495
that something that that you

1793
00:52:23,495 --> 00:52:24,663
all kind of engage with cxo in

1794
00:52:24,663 --> 00:52:25,931
terms of not just the

1795
00:52:25,931 --> 00:52:27,990
individual, but when you start

1796
00:52:27,990 --> 00:52:29,234
seeing sort of those patterns

1797
00:52:29,234 --> 00:52:30,369
of how how that gets resolved?

1798
00:52:30,369 --> 00:52:30,636
I imagine for the community, I

1799
00:52:30,636 --> 00:52:31,370
think it

1800
00:52:31,370 --> 00:52:33,770
s an important thing

1801
00:52:34,173 --> 00:52:36,675
to to, for us to consider to.

1802
00:52:36,675 --> 00:52:37,742
Absolutely. And, um, when we

1803
00:52:37,742 --> 00:52:39,712
were working on the annual

1804
00:52:39,712 --> 00:52:41,813
report for this year, um, part

1805
00:52:41,813 --> 00:52:42,614
of what we were looking for,

1806
00:52:42,614 --> 00:52:44,283
that is something that we were

1807
00:52:44,283 --> 00:52:46,283
specifically looking for,

1808
00:52:47,219 --> 00:52:49,155
whether the, deputies who have

1809
00:52:49,155 --> 00:52:51,489
a high number of allegations

1810
00:52:51,489 --> 00:52:52,691
this year are the same deputies

1811
00:52:52,691 --> 00:52:54,360
who have had the high number of

1812
00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:56,760
allegations in the years

1813
00:52:56,828 --> 00:52:58,330
previous. Um, and when we used

1814
00:52:58,330 --> 00:52:59,865
their, you know, their unique

1815
00:52:59,865 --> 00:53:02,134
identifiers to kind of figure

1816
00:53:02,134 --> 00:53:03,468
that out, there was not a very

1817
00:53:03,468 --> 00:53:06,438
there was not a strong trend

1818
00:53:06,438 --> 00:53:08,400
that we noticed. Um, and so,

1819
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:09,107
uh, the trend is it

1820
00:53:09,107 --> 00:53:11,107
s is still

1821
00:53:11,610 --> 00:53:13,445
that there is a small number

1822
00:53:13,445 --> 00:53:14,713
that is responsible for, you

1823
00:53:14,713 --> 00:53:17,113
know, a disproportionate number

1824
00:53:18,617 --> 00:53:20,652
of, of, of allegations. Um, but

1825
00:53:20,652 --> 00:53:22,821
there is not we did not see

1826
00:53:22,821 --> 00:53:24,990
that. We did not see a trend

1827
00:53:24,990 --> 00:53:26,990
about specific, specific

1828
00:53:27,250 --> 00:53:29,280
deputies. For example, we did

1829
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:30,829
look for it if we had found it.

1830
00:53:30,829 --> 00:53:31,663
Of course, we, you know, we

1831
00:53:31,663 --> 00:53:33,565
would have had to figure out

1832
00:53:33,565 --> 00:53:35,266
how to communicate that without

1833
00:53:35,266 --> 00:53:37,269
running afoul of any collective

1834
00:53:37,269 --> 00:53:39,269
bargaining agreement. Uh,

1835
00:53:39,738 --> 00:53:41,173
conditions. Um, but yeah, we

1836
00:53:41,173 --> 00:53:43,308
did not we did not necessarily

1837
00:53:43,308 --> 00:53:44,643
find that that pattern.

1838
00:53:44,643 --> 00:53:44,810
Okay. Well, I appreciate that.

1839
00:53:44,810 --> 00:53:45,210
You

1840
00:53:45,210 --> 00:53:46,211
re you

1841
00:53:46,211 --> 00:53:48,800
re looking at it.

1842
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:48,247
Yep. Somewhat reassuring that

1843
00:53:48,247 --> 00:53:49,214
you

1844
00:53:49,214 --> 00:53:50,382
re not seeing that pattern

1845
00:53:50,382 --> 00:53:51,382
because I think that that would

1846
00:53:51,382 --> 00:53:53,510
cause some concern. But I

1847
00:53:53,510 --> 00:53:54,219
appreciate that your, uh, your

1848
00:53:54,219 --> 00:53:57,219
analysis goes in depth like

1849
00:53:58,570 --> 00:54:01,657
that. So thank you. Thank you.

1850
00:54:05,263 --> 00:54:07,980
Are there questions, comments?

1851
00:54:07,980 --> 00:54:10,168
Well, we do have a motion

1852
00:54:10,168 --> 00:54:13,168
before us, uh, to approve

1853
00:54:14,339 --> 00:54:16,339
proposed motion 2026 0144 with

1854
00:54:16,808 --> 00:54:17,709
a do pass recommendation. Um,

1855
00:54:17,709 --> 00:54:18,911
Clerk Williams, would you

1856
00:54:18,911 --> 00:54:21,311
please call the roll?

1857
00:54:21,413 --> 00:54:23,548
Thank you. Chair Councilmember

1858
00:54:23,548 --> 00:54:25,948
Balducci Councilmember Baron. I

1859
00:54:26,180 --> 00:54:28,180
Councilmember. I Councilmember

1860
00:54:28,954 --> 00:54:31,223
Mosqueda. I Chair Lewis, I vote

1861
00:54:31,223 --> 00:54:33,125
is four ayes zero noes with

1862
00:54:33,125 --> 00:54:35,125
Councilmember Balducci excused.

1863
00:54:36,940 --> 00:54:38,764
Thank you. Um, by our vote, we

1864
00:54:38,764 --> 00:54:41,164
have approved proposed motion

1865
00:54:41,666 --> 00:54:43,835
2026 0144 with the due pass

1866
00:54:43,835 --> 00:54:45,938
recommendations. If there are

1867
00:54:45,938 --> 00:54:47,740
no concerns from my colleagues,

1868
00:54:47,740 --> 00:54:51,900
we will place this item on the

1869
00:54:51,900 --> 00:54:53,346
consent agenda for the

1870
00:54:53,346 --> 00:54:54,480
SEPTEMBER 15th uh Council

1871
00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:55,380
meeting. And i

1872
00:54:55,380 --> 00:54:57,380
ll close by

1873
00:54:57,449 --> 00:54:58,917
saying, um, Director Abizaid,

1874
00:54:58,917 --> 00:55:01,386
we appreciate your work so

1875
00:55:01,386 --> 00:55:02,988
much, and thank you for leaving

1876
00:55:02,988 --> 00:55:05,570
the Office of Law Enforcement

1877
00:55:05,570 --> 00:55:06,792
Oversight in better shape than

1878
00:55:06,792 --> 00:55:07,960
you found it. Thank you.

1879
00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:09,270
Thank you so much, Chair Lewis.

1880
00:55:09,270 --> 00:55:11,427
Thank you, Council members.

1881
00:55:14,767 --> 00:55:16,767
Thank you.

1882
00:55:18,403 --> 00:55:22,300
Okay, moving on to our final

1883
00:55:22,474 --> 00:55:24,542
agenda item. Uh, it is another

1884
00:55:24,542 --> 00:55:26,645
annual report and this time

1885
00:55:26,645 --> 00:55:28,346
from the Human and Civil Rights

1886
00:55:28,346 --> 00:55:29,748
Commission. Um, the Human and

1887
00:55:29,748 --> 00:55:30,883
Civil Rights Commission, as you

1888
00:55:30,883 --> 00:55:33,283
know, colleagues was formed

1889
00:55:33,618 --> 00:55:35,321
last year, making today their

1890
00:55:35,321 --> 00:55:37,122
first time providing an annual

1891
00:55:37,122 --> 00:55:39,257
report to the Law and Justice

1892
00:55:39,257 --> 00:55:40,759
Committee. We are grateful to

1893
00:55:40,759 --> 00:55:43,159
have their executive committee

1894
00:55:43,195 --> 00:55:44,529
members here today to present

1895
00:55:44,529 --> 00:55:46,498
and to tell us about the

1896
00:55:46,498 --> 00:55:48,434
important work that they are

1897
00:55:48,434 --> 00:55:48,620
undertaking. Um, at this time,

1898
00:55:48,620 --> 00:55:50,620
I

1899
00:55:51,937 --> 00:55:53,339
d like to call on, um, Human

1900
00:55:53,339 --> 00:55:55,174
and Civil Rights Commission

1901
00:55:55,174 --> 00:55:57,574
co-chair Jennifer Carlson to

1902
00:55:57,609 --> 00:55:59,211
begin. And please start by

1903
00:55:59,211 --> 00:56:01,611
introducing yourself and your

1904
00:56:07,319 --> 00:56:09,319
other commissioners.

1905
00:56:09,655 --> 00:56:11,523
Good morning, Chair Lewis. Vice

1906
00:56:11,523 --> 00:56:13,250
chair Dembowski and members of

1907
00:56:13,250 --> 00:56:15,927
the committee. Thank you for

1908
00:56:15,927 --> 00:56:17,362
this opportunity to brief the

1909
00:56:17,362 --> 00:56:18,496
Law and Justice Committee on

1910
00:56:18,496 --> 00:56:18,797
the Human and Civil Rights

1911
00:56:18,797 --> 00:56:20,797
Commission

1912
00:56:20,899 --> 00:56:22,701
s annual report,

1913
00:56:22,701 --> 00:56:25,570
which we transmitted in APRIL

1914
00:56:25,570 --> 00:56:28,273
of this year. I am the crc

1915
00:56:28,273 --> 00:56:29,908
co-chair, Jennifer Curls. I use

1916
00:56:29,908 --> 00:56:30,342
her pronouns, and I

1917
00:56:30,342 --> 00:56:32,244
m joined

1918
00:56:32,244 --> 00:56:33,778
today by my fellow executive

1919
00:56:33,778 --> 00:56:34,446
committee members who I

1920
00:56:34,446 --> 00:56:35,781
ll

1921
00:56:35,781 --> 00:56:37,416
pause here to allow them to

1922
00:56:37,416 --> 00:56:39,416
introduce themselves.

1923
00:56:45,490 --> 00:56:47,325
Good morning.

1924
00:56:47,325 --> 00:56:49,494
Good morning. My name is Daisy

1925
00:56:49,494 --> 00:56:51,362
Wong. I am the co-chair of the

1926
00:56:51,362 --> 00:56:54,362
commission, and my pronouns are

1927
00:56:54,967 --> 00:56:56,967
she her.

1928
00:56:57,368 --> 00:57:00,606
Good morning. My name is Alison

1929
00:57:00,606 --> 00:57:03,606
Hastings, and I am the

1930
00:57:05,100 --> 00:57:05,911
secretary of the commission.

1931
00:57:05,911 --> 00:57:07,112
And I believe you

1932
00:57:07,112 --> 00:57:08,547
ll see our

1933
00:57:08,547 --> 00:57:11,517
presentation for you today as

1934
00:57:11,517 --> 00:57:11,716
well. So, as a reminder,

1935
00:57:11,716 --> 00:57:13,716
today

1936
00:57:13,952 --> 00:57:16,288
s briefing focuses on our

1937
00:57:16,288 --> 00:57:18,688
inaugural annual report, which

1938
00:57:19,691 --> 00:57:21,560
covers the period from

1939
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:23,960
SEPTEMBER 2025 through MARCH of

1940
00:57:24,290 --> 00:57:25,998
2026. The next reporting period

1941
00:57:25,998 --> 00:57:28,998
will span the 12 months from

1942
00:57:29,167 --> 00:57:31,102
MARCH of 2026 to MARCH of 2027,

1943
00:57:31,102 --> 00:57:32,404
and will include the one time

1944
00:57:32,404 --> 00:57:34,139
reporting requirement

1945
00:57:34,139 --> 00:57:35,740
associated with the changes to

1946
00:57:35,740 --> 00:57:36,942
powers and duties,

1947
00:57:36,942 --> 00:57:38,444
recommendation. As you can see

1948
00:57:38,444 --> 00:57:40,512
on the slide, much of the

1949
00:57:40,512 --> 00:57:41,847
inaugural period centered on

1950
00:57:41,847 --> 00:57:43,615
establishing foundational

1951
00:57:43,615 --> 00:57:45,350
structures for the Commission,

1952
00:57:45,350 --> 00:57:47,453
a major focus was developing

1953
00:57:47,453 --> 00:57:50,422
our bylaws to bring clarity to

1954
00:57:50,422 --> 00:57:52,924
the operations and support long

1955
00:57:52,924 --> 00:57:55,194
term sustainability. This work

1956
00:57:55,194 --> 00:57:57,863
can occur as the inaugural

1957
00:57:57,863 --> 00:57:59,832
Commission stepped into a

1958
00:57:59,832 --> 00:58:01,633
period of transition following

1959
00:58:01,633 --> 00:58:03,101
the NOVEMBER election.

1960
00:58:03,101 --> 00:58:05,771
Throughout this period, we have

1961
00:58:05,771 --> 00:58:07,606
been diligent in refocusing our

1962
00:58:07,606 --> 00:58:09,842
efforts to ensure alignment

1963
00:58:09,842 --> 00:58:12,111
with our mission while

1964
00:58:12,111 --> 00:58:14,111
navigating these organizational

1965
00:58:14,313 --> 00:58:16,713
changes. While the Commission

1966
00:58:17,282 --> 00:58:19,282
has experienced significant

1967
00:58:19,851 --> 00:58:21,787
transitions. We have also made

1968
00:58:21,787 --> 00:58:23,880
substantial progress. Progress.

1969
00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:24,723
We look forward to sharing in

1970
00:58:24,723 --> 00:58:28,323
greater detail with you all in

1971
00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:31,597
our next annual report. So

1972
00:58:31,597 --> 00:58:33,164
continuing from that timeline

1973
00:58:33,164 --> 00:58:34,766
that we just reviewed, I wanted

1974
00:58:34,766 --> 00:58:37,169
to just highlight a few of

1975
00:58:37,169 --> 00:58:39,169
those foundational activities.

1976
00:58:39,838 --> 00:58:42,838
Trans um, translated into our

1977
00:58:43,242 --> 00:58:45,242
key accomplishments for 2025.

1978
00:58:45,677 --> 00:58:46,979
We began by successfully

1979
00:58:46,979 --> 00:58:48,747
establishing the Commission

1980
00:58:48,747 --> 00:58:50,415
following the inaugural member

1981
00:58:50,415 --> 00:58:53,415
appointments in the summer of

1982
00:58:53,719 --> 00:58:55,620
2025. The foundational, um,

1983
00:58:55,620 --> 00:58:56,922
that foundational step set the

1984
00:58:56,922 --> 00:58:58,790
stage for all of the work that

1985
00:58:58,790 --> 00:59:00,892
followed that year, we launched

1986
00:59:00,892 --> 00:59:03,628
our public facing work with our

1987
00:59:03,628 --> 00:59:06,628
first official hrc meeting in

1988
00:59:06,799 --> 00:59:07,999
SEPTEMBER of 2025, marking the

1989
00:59:07,999 --> 00:59:09,968
start of our community

1990
00:59:09,968 --> 00:59:11,968
engagement and advisory

1991
00:59:12,337 --> 00:59:14,172
responsibilities. As noted in

1992
00:59:14,172 --> 00:59:16,241
the timeline, we formed our

1993
00:59:16,241 --> 00:59:17,676
bylaws in the fall and

1994
00:59:17,676 --> 00:59:19,770
completed the first draft of

1995
00:59:19,770 --> 00:59:21,380
our governance bylaws by

1996
00:59:21,380 --> 00:59:23,549
DECEMBER. This was a major

1997
00:59:23,549 --> 00:59:25,949
milestone that has helped

1998
00:59:26,652 --> 00:59:28,487
create clarity, consistency,

1999
00:59:28,487 --> 00:59:30,488
and long term sustainability in

2000
00:59:30,488 --> 00:59:32,791
how the Commission operates. We

2001
00:59:32,791 --> 00:59:34,250
also established a

2002
00:59:34,250 --> 00:59:35,427
collaboration with the King

2003
00:59:35,427 --> 00:59:37,228
County Immigrant and Refugee

2004
00:59:37,228 --> 00:59:39,228
Commission through DECEMBER,

2005
00:59:39,231 --> 00:59:40,665
Joint Convening, which helped

2006
00:59:40,665 --> 00:59:42,701
build an understanding of

2007
00:59:42,701 --> 00:59:45,701
shared priorities and create an

2008
00:59:45,738 --> 00:59:46,938
opportunity for connection. And

2009
00:59:46,938 --> 00:59:48,273
throughout the year,

2010
00:59:48,273 --> 00:59:49,842
commissioners were building

2011
00:59:49,842 --> 00:59:51,842
foundational knowledge

2012
00:59:52,100 --> 00:59:53,812
essential to our advisory role

2013
00:59:53,812 --> 00:59:55,247
learning about civil rights

2014
00:59:55,247 --> 00:59:57,247
investigations, county

2015
00:59:57,516 --> 00:59:59,551
processes, and the broader

2016
00:59:59,551 --> 01:00:01,319
program structure. We closed

2017
01:00:01,319 --> 01:00:03,488
out our year by electing

2018
01:00:03,488 --> 01:00:05,888
officers to support coordinated

2019
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:08,226
leadership, and all together,

2020
01:00:08,226 --> 01:00:10,626
these accomplishments reflect a

2021
01:00:10,895 --> 01:00:12,331
year of building, grounding and

2022
01:00:12,331 --> 01:00:14,731
preparing the commission to

2023
01:00:15,534 --> 01:00:17,870
move into more substantive

2024
01:00:17,870 --> 01:00:18,369
advisory work. And I just want

2025
01:00:18,369 --> 01:00:18,736
to say that we

2026
01:00:18,736 --> 01:00:20,736
re very

2027
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:22,775
appreciative of the staff who

2028
01:00:22,775 --> 01:00:25,100
have been supporting the

2029
01:00:25,100 --> 01:00:27,345
Commission and our work and our

2030
01:00:27,345 --> 01:00:27,946
growth over this past year. So

2031
01:00:27,946 --> 01:00:28,813
with that, I

2032
01:00:28,813 --> 01:00:30,448
ll give the floor

2033
01:00:30,448 --> 01:00:32,550
to my co-chair, dc.

2034
01:00:32,550 --> 01:00:34,319
Thank you. So looking ahead,

2035
01:00:34,319 --> 01:00:36,880
the goals we included in the

2036
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:38,900
annual report outline our long

2037
01:00:38,900 --> 01:00:39,524
term direction. Um,

2038
01:00:39,524 --> 01:00:41,590
strengthening community

2039
01:00:41,590 --> 01:00:43,270
connections, reviewing the

2040
01:00:43,270 --> 01:00:45,970
civil rights program, assessing

2041
01:00:45,970 --> 01:00:47,650
protected classes and legal

2042
01:00:47,650 --> 01:00:48,166
updates. Um, along with

2043
01:00:48,166 --> 01:00:49,534
reviewing policies and

2044
01:00:49,534 --> 01:00:51,534
enhancing partnership to

2045
01:00:51,736 --> 01:00:54,136
support stronger civil rights

2046
01:00:54,806 --> 01:00:55,473
outcomes. And as we gained

2047
01:00:55,473 --> 01:00:56,475
experience, we

2048
01:00:56,475 --> 01:00:58,310
ve also refined

2049
01:00:58,310 --> 01:01:01,280
our focus based on lessons

2050
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:02,881
learned. The commission

2051
01:01:02,881 --> 01:01:03,748
experienced commissioner

2052
01:01:03,748 --> 01:01:05,748
turnover,

2053
01:01:06,284 --> 01:01:07,785
Vacancies and shift in staff

2054
01:01:07,785 --> 01:01:10,185
support following the election

2055
01:01:10,455 --> 01:01:12,455
and county reorganisation.

2056
01:01:12,891 --> 01:01:14,726
These realities helped clarify

2057
01:01:14,726 --> 01:01:17,726
where immediate efforts need to

2058
01:01:17,729 --> 01:01:19,298
be, and as a result, we have

2059
01:01:19,298 --> 01:01:21,698
pivoted towards priorities that

2060
01:01:22,867 --> 01:01:24,669
reinforce our strengthening our

2061
01:01:24,669 --> 01:01:26,669
infrastructure, developing

2062
01:01:26,805 --> 01:01:29,205
structured study sessions and

2063
01:01:29,307 --> 01:01:31,420
onboarding. Filling vacancies

2064
01:01:31,420 --> 01:01:33,478
and completing the first draft

2065
01:01:33,478 --> 01:01:36,581
of the changes to the Powers

2066
01:01:36,581 --> 01:01:38,317
and duties report. These

2067
01:01:38,317 --> 01:01:39,784
refined goals help ensure that

2068
01:01:39,784 --> 01:01:41,754
as we move forward, we are

2069
01:01:41,754 --> 01:01:43,421
grounded, coordinated and set

2070
01:01:43,421 --> 01:01:46,421
up for long term term

2071
01:01:46,625 --> 01:01:48,600
effectiveness.

2072
01:01:48,600 --> 01:01:49,528
We have already begun

2073
01:01:49,528 --> 01:01:51,396
implementing several of these

2074
01:01:51,396 --> 01:01:51,696
priorities over the past few

2075
01:01:51,696 --> 01:01:52,965
months. We

2076
01:01:52,965 --> 01:01:54,165
ve developed a

2077
01:01:54,165 --> 01:01:56,100
structured study session

2078
01:01:56,100 --> 01:01:57,436
curriculum. The civil rights

2079
01:01:57,436 --> 01:01:59,604
team has put together an

2080
01:01:59,604 --> 01:02:01,339
incredibly robust framework for

2081
01:02:01,339 --> 01:02:01,506
us. The eight sessions that

2082
01:02:01,506 --> 01:02:02,874
we

2083
01:02:02,874 --> 01:02:04,443
ve had so far have helped

2084
01:02:04,443 --> 01:02:06,843
clarify our understanding of

2085
01:02:07,450 --> 01:02:08,513
county functions, civil rights

2086
01:02:08,513 --> 01:02:10,749
processes, and the current

2087
01:02:10,749 --> 01:02:11,950
oversight landscape. We have an

2088
01:02:11,950 --> 01:02:13,785
additional ten sessions

2089
01:02:13,785 --> 01:02:14,986
scheduled throughout this month

2090
01:02:14,986 --> 01:02:15,220
in the early fall, and we

2091
01:02:15,220 --> 01:02:16,755
re

2092
01:02:16,755 --> 01:02:18,856
planning an in-person retreat

2093
01:02:18,856 --> 01:02:19,758
this fall as well. To support

2094
01:02:19,758 --> 01:02:21,460
onboarding of new

2095
01:02:21,460 --> 01:02:23,460
commissioners, team building

2096
01:02:24,620 --> 01:02:24,562
and collective learning, in

2097
01:02:24,562 --> 01:02:25,864
SEPTEMBER, we

2098
01:02:25,864 --> 01:02:27,632
ll also conduct a

2099
01:02:27,632 --> 01:02:27,865
mapping exercise to synthesize

2100
01:02:27,865 --> 01:02:29,301
what we

2101
01:02:29,301 --> 01:02:30,902
ve learned so far, and

2102
01:02:30,902 --> 01:02:32,771
we will use this to shape how

2103
01:02:32,771 --> 01:02:35,307
we approach the powers and

2104
01:02:35,307 --> 01:02:37,709
duties report. That will inform

2105
01:02:37,709 --> 01:02:39,311
our initial recommendations.

2106
01:02:39,311 --> 01:02:40,945
And those might include things

2107
01:02:40,945 --> 01:02:43,415
such as budget, staffing and

2108
01:02:43,415 --> 01:02:44,149
process considerations needed

2109
01:02:44,149 --> 01:02:44,516
to support the Commission

2110
01:02:44,516 --> 01:02:46,516
s

2111
01:02:47,986 --> 01:02:49,688
long term goals. And to close,

2112
01:02:49,688 --> 01:02:51,550
we want to emphasize that this

2113
01:02:51,550 --> 01:02:53,191
first year has been both

2114
01:02:53,191 --> 01:02:55,191
foundational and instructive.

2115
01:02:55,394 --> 01:02:57,280
We are building the structures,

2116
01:02:57,280 --> 01:02:58,296
relationships, and internal

2117
01:02:58,296 --> 01:02:59,397
clarity needed to support

2118
01:02:59,397 --> 01:03:01,333
meaningful civil rights

2119
01:03:01,333 --> 01:03:03,201
oversight in the years ahead.

2120
01:03:03,201 --> 01:03:04,235
And despite the transitions and

2121
01:03:04,235 --> 01:03:05,360
learning curves, the Commission

2122
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:06,338
remains committed to

2123
01:03:06,338 --> 01:03:07,739
strengthening equity,

2124
01:03:07,739 --> 01:03:09,739
accountability and community

2125
01:03:09,841 --> 01:03:10,800
partnership across King County.

2126
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:11,109
We

2127
01:03:11,109 --> 01:03:11,543
re grateful for the Law and

2128
01:03:11,543 --> 01:03:12,344
Justice Committee

2129
01:03:12,344 --> 01:03:14,344
s ongoing

2130
01:03:14,679 --> 01:03:16,480
support and guidance, and

2131
01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:16,548
extremely grateful to the staff

2132
01:03:16,548 --> 01:03:17,415
support that we

2133
01:03:17,415 --> 01:03:18,516
ve received,

2134
01:03:18,516 --> 01:03:20,285
and we look forward to

2135
01:03:20,285 --> 01:03:20,819
continuing this work with you.

2136
01:03:20,819 --> 01:03:21,286
At this point, we

2137
01:03:21,286 --> 01:03:22,754
re happy to

2138
01:03:22,754 --> 01:03:25,390
answer any questions you MAY

2139
01:03:25,390 --> 01:03:26,691
have. Thank you.

2140
01:03:26,691 --> 01:03:29,594
Great. Thank you for that

2141
01:03:29,594 --> 01:03:31,950
presentation. I am impressed

2142
01:03:31,950 --> 01:03:31,930
with how much you

2143
01:03:31,930 --> 01:03:33,930
ve been able

2144
01:03:34,232 --> 01:03:36,601
to accomplish in, just what,

2145
01:03:36,601 --> 01:03:36,801
maybe 13 months or so. So

2146
01:03:36,801 --> 01:03:37,769
that

2147
01:03:37,769 --> 01:03:38,871
s really impressive. And

2148
01:03:38,871 --> 01:03:39,400
to see the foundation that

2149
01:03:39,400 --> 01:03:40,639
you

2150
01:03:40,639 --> 01:03:41,807
ve laid for future years.

2151
01:03:41,807 --> 01:03:45,110
With that, I will turn to

2152
01:03:45,110 --> 01:03:47,110
colleagues for questions,

2153
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:49,347
comments..

2154
01:03:49,347 --> 01:03:50,849
Well thank you. Well, first of

2155
01:03:50,849 --> 01:03:53,485
all, I just want to say express

2156
01:03:53,485 --> 01:03:55,520
our deep gratitude to to all of

2157
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:56,880
you for serving in this role.

2158
01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:57,322
Um, I

2159
01:03:57,322 --> 01:03:58,590
m very excited and I

2160
01:03:58,590 --> 01:03:59,825
wanted to defer a little bit to

2161
01:03:59,825 --> 01:04:02,160
Vice Chair Dembowski just

2162
01:04:02,160 --> 01:04:05,597
because he led the effort here

2163
01:04:05,597 --> 01:04:07,733
to, I would say, revitalize the

2164
01:04:07,733 --> 01:04:10,133
commission from from prior

2165
01:04:10,468 --> 01:04:12,437
iterations. Um, I think the,

2166
01:04:12,437 --> 01:04:13,338
you know, as, as the chair

2167
01:04:13,338 --> 01:04:14,272
mentioned, you know, I

2168
01:04:14,272 --> 01:04:14,425
appreciate all the work that

2169
01:04:14,425 --> 01:04:15,607
s

2170
01:04:15,607 --> 01:04:16,875
been done already in this, in

2171
01:04:16,875 --> 01:04:18,777
this relatively short period of

2172
01:04:18,777 --> 01:04:20,312
time. I know that the that was

2173
01:04:20,312 --> 01:04:21,780
a lot of kind of foundational

2174
01:04:21,780 --> 01:04:23,749
work, and the substance lies

2175
01:04:23,749 --> 01:04:23,982
ahead. Um, I will just it

2176
01:04:23,982 --> 01:04:25,383
s

2177
01:04:25,383 --> 01:04:25,783
more of a, um, you

2178
01:04:25,783 --> 01:04:26,651
ve kind of

2179
01:04:26,651 --> 01:04:27,586
answered a little bit of the

2180
01:04:27,586 --> 01:04:29,210
question that I had, which is

2181
01:04:29,210 --> 01:04:30,489
like, you know, what? What

2182
01:04:30,489 --> 01:04:30,956
supports do you need? And it

2183
01:04:30,956 --> 01:04:31,389
sounds like there

2184
01:04:31,389 --> 01:04:32,391
s some work

2185
01:04:32,391 --> 01:04:33,591
to actually kind of present

2186
01:04:33,591 --> 01:04:34,526
that. And we look forward to I

2187
01:04:34,526 --> 01:04:36,610
want to be sort of cautious in

2188
01:04:36,610 --> 01:04:37,963
terms of what we can promise in

2189
01:04:37,963 --> 01:04:38,897
terms of, uh, particularly when

2190
01:04:38,897 --> 01:04:40,265
it comes to the budget because

2191
01:04:40,265 --> 01:04:41,433
of our constraints here, but

2192
01:04:41,433 --> 01:04:43,435
especially in the general fund.

2193
01:04:43,435 --> 01:04:44,502
But but I do want to I do, I do

2194
01:04:44,502 --> 01:04:47,305
we do want to hear it, I guess

2195
01:04:47,305 --> 01:04:48,239
I do want to open and say that,

2196
01:04:48,239 --> 01:04:49,574
uh, one of the things that I

2197
01:04:49,574 --> 01:04:51,676
think we discussed a lot when

2198
01:04:51,676 --> 01:04:53,345
this, uh, commission was being

2199
01:04:53,345 --> 01:04:55,130
discussed and this new

2200
01:04:55,130 --> 01:04:55,213
iteration is the ensuring that

2201
01:04:55,213 --> 01:04:56,114
there

2202
01:04:56,114 --> 01:04:56,312
s strong support. So I

2203
01:04:56,312 --> 01:04:57,915
m

2204
01:04:57,915 --> 01:04:59,517
glad to hear, in terms of the

2205
01:04:59,517 --> 01:05:01,119
report about the fact that that

2206
01:05:01,119 --> 01:05:02,820
that is coming from from our

2207
01:05:02,820 --> 01:05:04,820
executive branch colleagues

2208
01:05:05,624 --> 01:05:07,826
and, um, and really want to

2209
01:05:07,826 --> 01:05:09,495
make sure that you get what we,

2210
01:05:09,495 --> 01:05:11,796
um, you know, that that you get

2211
01:05:11,796 --> 01:05:14,566
the support to make this effort

2212
01:05:14,566 --> 01:05:16,602
successful and also that we,

2213
01:05:16,602 --> 01:05:18,136
we, you know, we want, you

2214
01:05:18,136 --> 01:05:19,838
know, part of the reason that

2215
01:05:19,838 --> 01:05:23,342
that I think we we wanted this

2216
01:05:23,342 --> 01:05:25,610
to be a revitalized, uh, part

2217
01:05:25,610 --> 01:05:27,312
of our county government is we

2218
01:05:27,312 --> 01:05:27,679
want this kind of independent

2219
01:05:27,679 --> 01:05:28,646
group that

2220
01:05:28,646 --> 01:05:30,782
s telling us that

2221
01:05:30,782 --> 01:05:32,217
the council and, and the county

2222
01:05:32,217 --> 01:05:34,352
government more generally, how

2223
01:05:34,352 --> 01:05:35,554
do we can improve in the area

2224
01:05:35,554 --> 01:05:36,988
of, of civil and human rights.

2225
01:05:36,988 --> 01:05:38,423
Right. I often think that

2226
01:05:38,423 --> 01:05:40,992
especially if we are going to

2227
01:05:40,992 --> 01:05:41,426
be living and working in a

2228
01:05:41,426 --> 01:05:42,427
doctor, King

2229
01:05:42,427 --> 01:05:43,895
s face is actually

2230
01:05:43,895 --> 01:05:45,630
behind this thing right here.

2231
01:05:45,630 --> 01:05:47,832
But I think that that, you

2232
01:05:47,832 --> 01:05:49,168
know, we need to be really

2233
01:05:49,168 --> 01:05:50,802
particularly here in King

2234
01:05:50,802 --> 01:05:52,704
County in a place named after

2235
01:05:52,704 --> 01:05:54,172
him, be living, uh, the values

2236
01:05:54,172 --> 01:05:55,507
of human civil rights. And so I

2237
01:05:55,507 --> 01:05:57,575
appreciate the Lord to your

2238
01:05:57,575 --> 01:05:59,310
already undertaking and look

2239
01:05:59,310 --> 01:06:00,679
forward to hearing, uh, your

2240
01:06:00,679 --> 01:06:02,214
recommendations on how we can

2241
01:06:02,214 --> 01:06:05,814
do better at the local level.

2242
01:06:06,885 --> 01:06:07,886
So thank you.

2243
01:06:07,886 --> 01:06:09,220
Councilmember Dembowski.

2244
01:06:09,220 --> 01:06:10,122
Thank you, chair. I want to

2245
01:06:10,122 --> 01:06:11,590
join my colleagues in

2246
01:06:11,590 --> 01:06:12,691
expressing gratitude for the

2247
01:06:12,691 --> 01:06:13,425
tremendous work you

2248
01:06:13,425 --> 01:06:15,425
re doing to

2249
01:06:15,527 --> 01:06:17,695
set this up for long term

2250
01:06:17,695 --> 01:06:20,695
sustainability. Um, and just to

2251
01:06:21,900 --> 01:06:22,533
maybe be a little more specific

2252
01:06:22,533 --> 01:06:22,768
to Councilmember Brown

2253
01:06:22,768 --> 01:06:24,402
s

2254
01:06:24,402 --> 01:06:27,710
question, do you feel, do you

2255
01:06:27,710 --> 01:06:30,671
feel do you have adequate staff

2256
01:06:30,676 --> 01:06:32,977
support? One of the one of the

2257
01:06:32,977 --> 01:06:33,979
challenges with the prior

2258
01:06:33,979 --> 01:06:35,380
version of the Civil Rights

2259
01:06:35,380 --> 01:06:36,548
Commission was there was a long

2260
01:06:36,548 --> 01:06:38,216
time staffer, and then when she

2261
01:06:38,216 --> 01:06:40,585
retired, kind of the the

2262
01:06:40,585 --> 01:06:40,752
staffing support kind of I

2263
01:06:40,752 --> 01:06:42,120
don

2264
01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:44,550
t know about evaporated.

2265
01:06:44,550 --> 01:06:45,790
But yeah, it dissipated. And

2266
01:06:45,790 --> 01:06:48,359
that led to some kind of

2267
01:06:48,359 --> 01:06:50,695
anemic, um, uh, an anemic

2268
01:06:50,695 --> 01:06:51,663
situation there. So we follow

2269
01:06:51,663 --> 01:06:52,297
up on Councilmember Brown

2270
01:06:52,297 --> 01:06:53,899
s

2271
01:06:53,899 --> 01:06:55,200
kind of inquiry there. How do

2272
01:06:55,200 --> 01:06:55,567
you feel about the staff

2273
01:06:55,567 --> 01:06:56,501
support? I

2274
01:06:56,501 --> 01:06:57,536
m not asking you

2275
01:06:57,536 --> 01:06:57,702
whether you like the person

2276
01:06:57,702 --> 01:06:58,703
who

2277
01:06:58,703 --> 01:06:59,203
s staffing. I

2278
01:06:59,203 --> 01:07:00,839
m saying, do

2279
01:07:00,839 --> 01:07:04,439
you have enough help to get

2280
01:07:04,842 --> 01:07:06,842
your job done?

2281
01:07:07,312 --> 01:07:09,147
Oh, um, well, I will say we

2282
01:07:09,147 --> 01:07:10,949
have experienced some

2283
01:07:10,949 --> 01:07:12,450
transitions in the staff

2284
01:07:12,450 --> 01:07:14,520
support for this commission

2285
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:15,319
since we came together for that

2286
01:07:15,319 --> 01:07:18,319
first meeting in SEPTEMBER of

2287
01:07:18,590 --> 01:07:21,590
2025. Each person that has, um,

2288
01:07:21,590 --> 01:07:22,827
supported us has been really

2289
01:07:22,827 --> 01:07:25,290
incredible. Um, so I would say

2290
01:07:25,290 --> 01:07:27,310
we we like them. We appreciate

2291
01:07:27,310 --> 01:07:29,801
them. And they have been, um,

2292
01:07:29,801 --> 01:07:31,836
really incredible in helping us

2293
01:07:31,836 --> 01:07:34,505
to wrap our arms around the

2294
01:07:34,505 --> 01:07:35,907
mission of this body of work. I

2295
01:07:35,907 --> 01:07:37,275
do think we will continue to

2296
01:07:37,275 --> 01:07:39,110
kind of explore what kind of

2297
01:07:39,110 --> 01:07:41,510
resources and staffing support

2298
01:07:42,470 --> 01:07:44,316
this commission might need in

2299
01:07:44,316 --> 01:07:45,484
order to be sustainable and

2300
01:07:45,484 --> 01:07:46,350
effective and efficient for the

2301
01:07:46,350 --> 01:07:46,851
county. And that

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01:07:46,851 --> 01:07:47,190
s something

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01:07:47,190 --> 01:07:48,553
we

2304
01:07:48,553 --> 01:07:49,888
ll be focusing on a bit when

2305
01:07:49,888 --> 01:07:51,322
we have this retreat in

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01:07:51,322 --> 01:07:52,757
SEPTEMBER and start thinking

2307
01:07:52,757 --> 01:07:53,958
about, um, what kind of

2308
01:07:53,958 --> 01:07:55,627
recommendations we want to put

2309
01:07:55,627 --> 01:07:57,395
into the Powers and Duties

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01:07:57,395 --> 01:07:58,796
report. What if anyone wants to

2311
01:07:58,796 --> 01:08:00,398
add anything?

2312
01:08:00,398 --> 01:08:00,598
I would encourage you to. Don

2313
01:08:00,598 --> 01:08:02,598
t

2314
01:08:02,967 --> 01:08:04,636
be a stranger. We we want to

2315
01:08:04,636 --> 01:08:06,104
support you over here. And we

2316
01:08:06,104 --> 01:08:07,539
we have a little bit of a say

2317
01:08:07,539 --> 01:08:08,940
on budget and things like that.

2318
01:08:08,940 --> 01:08:09,107
And I will acknowledge too,

2319
01:08:09,107 --> 01:08:10,842
we

2320
01:08:10,842 --> 01:08:12,277
ve had a change for the

2321
01:08:12,277 --> 01:08:13,845
first time in about 16 years of

2322
01:08:13,845 --> 01:08:14,812
executive administration and

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01:08:14,812 --> 01:08:14,994
new people. And so that

2324
01:08:14,994 --> 01:08:16,514
s

2325
01:08:16,514 --> 01:08:18,549
probably led to some

2326
01:08:18,549 --> 01:08:20,285
transitions. I would suspect,

2327
01:08:20,285 --> 01:08:21,519
uh, the second area I wanted to

2328
01:08:21,519 --> 01:08:23,521
ask you about, we were very

2329
01:08:23,521 --> 01:08:26,521
deliberate in adding the human

2330
01:08:26,591 --> 01:08:28,259
rights component to this

2331
01:08:28,259 --> 01:08:30,659
commission beyond the Civil

2332
01:08:32,430 --> 01:08:33,799
Rights Foundation. 1 in 4

2333
01:08:33,799 --> 01:08:35,767
residents of King County were

2334
01:08:35,767 --> 01:08:38,136
not was not born here. We are

2335
01:08:38,136 --> 01:08:39,971
facing an unprecedented assault

2336
01:08:39,971 --> 01:08:41,105
on human, in my view, on human

2337
01:08:41,105 --> 01:08:42,106
and civil rights in the county

2338
01:08:42,106 --> 01:08:44,506
by our federal government,

2339
01:08:44,609 --> 01:08:47,900
particularly with respect to

2340
01:08:48,130 --> 01:08:50,413
immigrants and refugees. And

2341
01:08:50,482 --> 01:08:53,318
while our powers to respond to

2342
01:08:53,318 --> 01:08:55,718
that are somewhat constrained,

2343
01:08:56,655 --> 01:08:58,890
uh, I think bearing witness, we

2344
01:08:58,890 --> 01:08:59,491
heard some testimony or not

2345
01:08:59,491 --> 01:09:00,759
testimony, but we covered this

2346
01:09:00,759 --> 01:09:03,161
a little bit on the oleo

2347
01:09:03,161 --> 01:09:03,361
report. But bearing witness to

2348
01:09:03,361 --> 01:09:04,529
what

2349
01:09:04,529 --> 01:09:07,529
s going on and then

2350
01:09:07,699 --> 01:09:09,768
raising a voice collectively

2351
01:09:09,768 --> 01:09:11,803
and from an official body like

2352
01:09:11,803 --> 01:09:13,338
yours, I think could add some

2353
01:09:13,338 --> 01:09:16,938
value. I think folks here in

2354
01:09:18,443 --> 01:09:20,912
the county are desperate for a

2355
01:09:20,912 --> 01:09:21,179
response. I feel sometimes, you

2356
01:09:21,179 --> 01:09:21,613
know, we

2357
01:09:21,613 --> 01:09:23,114
re we don

2358
01:09:23,114 --> 01:09:24,716
t have the

2359
01:09:24,716 --> 01:09:26,284
the tools and the powers that

2360
01:09:26,284 --> 01:09:28,420
we could do it, but I would I

2361
01:09:28,420 --> 01:09:28,753
guess I would ask, do you have

2362
01:09:28,753 --> 01:09:29,487
I know you

2363
01:09:29,487 --> 01:09:31,887
re getting all set

2364
01:09:32,423 --> 01:09:34,920
up, but do you have any, um,

2365
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:35,693
plans or would you consider

2366
01:09:35,693 --> 01:09:37,693
perhaps conducting some

2367
01:09:39,230 --> 01:09:39,430
hearings, uh, to highlight

2368
01:09:39,430 --> 01:09:40,565
what

2369
01:09:40,565 --> 01:09:42,200
s going on here in King

2370
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:44,135
County with respect to these

2371
01:09:44,135 --> 01:09:45,270
issues, perhaps issuing a

2372
01:09:45,270 --> 01:09:46,671
statement, perhaps a joint

2373
01:09:46,671 --> 01:09:47,638
statement with the King County

2374
01:09:47,638 --> 01:09:49,638
Immigrant and Refugee

2375
01:09:50,408 --> 01:09:52,440
Commission of support for our

2376
01:09:52,440 --> 01:09:54,444
immigrant and refugee residents

2377
01:09:55,470 --> 01:09:57,982
here, and a condemnation of the

2378
01:09:57,982 --> 01:10:00,982
treatment of them by the

2379
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:02,987
federal government. Um, just

2380
01:10:02,987 --> 01:10:03,655
wondering if you

2381
01:10:03,655 --> 01:10:05,655
ve considered

2382
01:10:10,962 --> 01:10:13,362
engaging in this area.

2383
01:10:14,599 --> 01:10:17,599
Uh, I appreciate that question.

2384
01:10:18,369 --> 01:10:20,171
And certainly that is something

2385
01:10:20,171 --> 01:10:22,507
that, you know, we have heard

2386
01:10:22,507 --> 01:10:24,275
from the public about, um,

2387
01:10:24,275 --> 01:10:26,311
already and some of the

2388
01:10:26,311 --> 01:10:27,579
engagement that the Commission

2389
01:10:27,579 --> 01:10:29,579
has experienced already

2390
01:10:30,140 --> 01:10:32,500
addresses those issues. I would

2391
01:10:32,500 --> 01:10:34,752
say that we will certainly

2392
01:10:34,752 --> 01:10:36,654
bring that up with the full

2393
01:10:36,654 --> 01:10:39,424
commission when we next meet

2394
01:10:39,424 --> 01:10:41,726
and discuss that as, uh, you

2395
01:10:41,726 --> 01:10:43,427
know, uh, an opportunity, I

2396
01:10:43,427 --> 01:10:44,862
guess, for the commission and

2397
01:10:44,862 --> 01:10:47,262
moving forward, thinking in

2398
01:10:49,133 --> 01:10:50,935
those regards. Yeah.

2399
01:10:50,935 --> 01:10:52,537
Okay. Well, thank you. I and

2400
01:10:52,537 --> 01:10:52,804
and I would also say, uh, you

2401
01:10:52,804 --> 01:10:53,171
know, we

2402
01:10:53,171 --> 01:10:54,940
ve heard some

2403
01:10:54,940 --> 01:10:57,750
testimony in recent weeks here

2404
01:10:57,750 --> 01:10:58,943
in chambers from particularly

2405
01:10:58,943 --> 01:11:00,378
around, uh, organizations and

2406
01:11:00,378 --> 01:11:01,913
people that are keeping an eye

2407
01:11:01,913 --> 01:11:02,314
on the flights out of Boeing

2408
01:11:02,314 --> 01:11:03,281
Field. We

2409
01:11:03,281 --> 01:11:04,616
ve got a long history

2410
01:11:04,616 --> 01:11:06,784
of litigation there and doing

2411
01:11:06,784 --> 01:11:08,953
some things. But, um, I would

2412
01:11:08,953 --> 01:11:11,222
encourage you not to be shy

2413
01:11:11,222 --> 01:11:11,455
about aiming your gaze at King

2414
01:11:11,455 --> 01:11:13,258
County

2415
01:11:13,258 --> 01:11:14,793
s operations and making

2416
01:11:14,793 --> 01:11:16,227
recommendations about how we

2417
01:11:16,227 --> 01:11:16,427
can be a better government.

2418
01:11:16,427 --> 01:11:18,427
There

2419
01:11:18,930 --> 01:11:20,640
s no one leader or body

2420
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:23,664
or group that has all the

2421
01:11:24,235 --> 01:11:25,436
answers. And, um, we we we are

2422
01:11:25,436 --> 01:11:26,371
looking for help and we are

2423
01:11:26,371 --> 01:11:26,576
looking for guidance and we

2424
01:11:26,576 --> 01:11:28,439
re

2425
01:11:28,439 --> 01:11:29,708
looking for some suggestions.

2426
01:11:29,708 --> 01:11:30,742
And I know you got your hands

2427
01:11:30,742 --> 01:11:32,143
full kind of getting set up,

2428
01:11:32,143 --> 01:11:35,213
but this is such a pressing

2429
01:11:35,213 --> 01:11:35,780
issue right now. Uh, that I

2430
01:11:35,780 --> 01:11:37,780
think I

2431
01:11:37,782 --> 01:11:40,782
m asking for your work

2432
01:11:44,155 --> 01:11:47,155
and help in this area.

2433
01:11:50,729 --> 01:11:52,197
Other questions or comments?

2434
01:11:52,197 --> 01:11:54,399
All right. Well, thank you very

2435
01:11:54,399 --> 01:11:54,666
much. Um, as I said, the work

2436
01:11:54,666 --> 01:11:55,767
that you

2437
01:11:55,767 --> 01:11:57,268
ve done so far has

2438
01:11:57,268 --> 01:11:57,436
been impressive, even though

2439
01:11:57,436 --> 01:11:57,769
it

2440
01:11:57,769 --> 01:11:58,302
s, you know, it

2441
01:11:58,302 --> 01:11:59,704
s startup

2442
01:11:59,704 --> 01:12:00,872
and foundational. And we do

2443
01:12:00,872 --> 01:12:03,741
look forward to hearing more

2444
01:12:03,741 --> 01:12:05,810
from you as you get stronger in

2445
01:12:05,810 --> 01:12:08,345
your group and as you move on

2446
01:12:08,345 --> 01:12:10,745
with actual subject matter

2447
01:12:11,349 --> 01:12:12,583
expertise and considerations.

2448
01:12:12,583 --> 01:12:13,151
So thank you. Thank you so

2449
01:12:13,151 --> 01:12:15,151
much.

2450
01:12:16,254 --> 01:12:18,654
Thank you. Thank you.

2451
01:12:18,957 --> 01:12:20,458
So if there is nothing else to

2452
01:12:20,458 --> 01:12:22,360
come before the committee, I

2453
01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:23,595
want to thank everyone who

2454
01:12:23,595 --> 01:12:24,229
participated in today

2455
01:12:24,229 --> 01:12:26,229
s meeting.

2456
01:12:26,664 --> 01:12:28,933
And can we get all the votes?

2457
01:12:28,933 --> 01:12:31,200
Oh. Thank you. Um, clerk did we

2458
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:31,669
get all of the votes counted

2459
01:12:31,669 --> 01:12:33,669
today?

2460
01:12:34,305 --> 01:12:36,700
Um, Councilmember Balducci was

2461
01:12:36,700 --> 01:12:37,275
excused on all four items, but

2462
01:12:37,275 --> 01:12:39,110
other than that, we did.

2463
01:12:39,110 --> 01:12:42,110
All right. Thank you. Selfish

2464
01:12:42,813 --> 01:12:43,810
question. No, thank you. Um, so

2465
01:12:43,810 --> 01:12:44,249
if there

2466
01:12:44,249 --> 01:12:45,650
s no other business to

2467
01:12:45,650 --> 01:12:46,000
come before the committee, we