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Oh, approval of the minutes.

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May 22nd,

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2025.

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Anybody got any uh problem with that?

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» Mr. Chairman, I also move that the

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minutes be approved as presented.

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» All right.

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Here or second?

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» I do have a question on it, actually.

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I'm looking at it.

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What What does the uh

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301 mean? Does that mean that somebody

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wasn't here or did somebody just not

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vote?

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» I believe that was a no vote.

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» So, like a abstain?

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» Abstain.

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» If uh before we move on, I I had one

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thing that I'd like to address

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concerning this.

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financially subsidized for

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uh being present at these at these

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meetings.

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this year in 2026,

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uh I came to the uh

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financial section here in King George to

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receive my 1099,

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and I was told

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that I didn't get paid in 2025.

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you all aware of that. I did not get

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paid in 2025.

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» I will check with finance on that.

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» Right off because I came in January of

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to get my

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uh 1099

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and they said, "Mr. Johnson,

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uh we have no 1099 for you."

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it's not a whole lot of money, but I'm

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supposed to get something.

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» Yes, sir.

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» I will I will gladly look into that for

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» Okay. Thank you.

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» Anything else?

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» Do we have to approve the motion?

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Do we Do we have to approve the motion

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to uh accept the minutes

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as read?

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» So moved.

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» Aye.

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» Aye.

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» Okay, now we're at the citizens public

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comment period.

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First of guest, we're going to

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public hearing on item number

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Anybody want to

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say anything about that proposal?

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» Good evening. Uh my name is Jim Buck.

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I'm the engineer for this project. Um

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um on the Potomac River uh a little bit

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uh there's been some erosion on a

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parcel. So, I guess the matter before

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uh this board is what we're doing on the

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shore side of it where we're going to

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place rip rap revetment and grade back a

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terribly long piece where we're doing

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the improvements. Um, but

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uh, we do do want to

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stabilize the slope along there. Uh,

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main residence of Mr. Blackburn,

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uh, his lot, the slope is well

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stabilized. Uh, the property owner to

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the north, his slope is well stabilized

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and there's a

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parcel in between where it's not

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stabilized and Mr. Blackburn owns.

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» Do you have any questions or not?

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comment from the neighbor.

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a chance to read it. What was the

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comment that the neighbor had?

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» Yeah, I can address that. Um, the

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neighbor was concerned about how

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our project would tie into his project

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at the common property line. Um, I went

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through the project with or went through

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our approach with him and he's he's fine

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with everything. We do have an email to

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that effect where he's acknowledged that

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that he's okay with everything. So we

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we've resolved that concern, I believe.

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» Since he's north, he's only going to

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build up shoreline from these groynes

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anyway, so

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» Right, he already had the neighbor

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already has groynes and his the uh,

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face of the um, hill there's about 16 ft

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tall. His is entirely rip rapped. Um,

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we're going to extend the rip rap up to

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about elevation eight and then just uh,

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use erosion control matting and

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revegetate everything between elevation

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eight and 16. So it'll it'll match the

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grading will match his his property.

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uh install the groins um as soon as we

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and create some sand behind them and and

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hopefully restore the beach on on this

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» So, will you be pulling the old groins

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out or just building behind them?

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» We're going to

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uh put the new groins in the same

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footprint as the old groins. So, we will

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pull them out, yes.

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» Move quickly cuz it's they're already

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pre-filled. You won't have to I assume

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you won't have to pre-fill them.

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uh current in this area.

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yet have have uh accumulated some nice

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beach.

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» In the old days, they used to make you

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pre-fill them when you built the groin.

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» But if you move quick, you've already

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got them filled, you shouldn't have to

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do that.

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» Right, right.

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» Uh I had one question. The poles that

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and old poles that

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are you going to pull those out? The old

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poles will be extracted.

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» To try to pull them out um

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when they do the work. Um if they won't

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and they're I I don't know how old they

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are. I'm guessing 25 30 years. If they

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won't come out for whatever reason, then

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» Rather than leave them sticking out.

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» You be jetting these in or driving them

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» Uh probably be driven in.

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» Do you have any other questions?

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» All right.

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» The public would like to address this

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issue.

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» You mean this last project, right?

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» Huh?

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» You mean address the last project?

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» The last issue, yes.

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» Talking about the last

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» You have to

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You have to approve it now or do you

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» Yes, yes.

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» I make a motion that we approve the uh

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project as uh presented.

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Uh let me get the project number.

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Uh item number

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» Second.

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» Seconded. All in favor?

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» I vote aye.

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» Aye.

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» Okay.

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Next item is 2023

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» Okay. Hi, I'm Lisa Dozeman. I'm the

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project manager for the shoreline

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restoration at Doggett Run Gamble Creek.

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We have our wetlands group here. So, if

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you have any questions on what we're

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doing on the creek, she'll be able to

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answer them on the design.

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And this is Leslie from USA.

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» Yes.

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» Um are you uh Can you put up the

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» Put up the plans?

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Chris, would you mind switching over to

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the next application?

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» Oh. Oh.

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Look at that.

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» Oh, it went back, didn't it?

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» That's not it. It is.

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» Am I pointing it?

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» I think it might be stuck on this PDF.

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» Yeah, I think it's I think they're

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separate files.

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» That's two separate PDFs.

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» He's got to pull up the next one. All

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» I think it's a separate separate PDF.

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This one is just those three for the

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Blackburn project.

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» Oh, okay.

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» And then the other PDF was the was the

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Navy project.

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» It was up just a second.

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» So, this is Navy.

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» This is Blackburn.

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» No, this one

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» This is Blackburn. The other one

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2025-1253

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is the Navy project.

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» So, this is a small project at the mouth

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of Gambo Creek

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where there is

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um

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5-ft tall banks on along an outside bend

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of the creek that need to be stabilized.

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long and then filling behind it with

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sand and planting that up up against the

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going to be from land.

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» Is there any concern about unexploded

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ordinance? I saw a mention of that in

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the project proposal. Mention you're

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getting to it from land.

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Are you concerned about something

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happening there?

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» Right. So,

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that is because of the possible presence

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of unexploded ordnance. We cannot grade

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back the slope, which would be the ideal

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situation. But, in this case, we can't

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really grade. We can only add additional

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materials to the bank, which is why

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we're doing this stone sill and then the

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plantings and sand.

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There we go.

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» But, but there's no swimmer

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or like heavy equipment

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» Oh, right. So, yeah, um if need be,

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we'll have um

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someone come sweep before construction

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happens.

293
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» If you conveniently have a EOD on site,

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so

295
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» Right.

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So,

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So,

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» I'd definitely be careful

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cuz I've heard uh

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somebody uh in their boat, they came too

301
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close to shore and they their boat got

302
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blown up. They got a new boat out of it

303
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though.

304
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Wasn't exactly there, but it was

305
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somewhere around there, you know, I'm

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going to show you the creek.

307
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» Okay.

308
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So, um when you're looking at this

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picture, it's a the blue is a marsh and

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then next to it there's a bunch of

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lines to the

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like downstream or to the right sort of

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and that is the steep grade of the

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eroding bank that we want to stabilize.

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Um

316
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so,

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so,

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So, basically that's kind of what we're

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proposing is a sill and fill behind it

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up against the bank.

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Um

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and at one point we were proposing

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additional planting and some sand

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further

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um south, but now we're not doing that

326
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further downstream of

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the rock sill.

328
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» So, you hoping to proceed soon?

329
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» Um, potentially construction could get

330
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started as early as November. It also

331
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might get pushed into the spring, but

332
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» And it's going to be hard to put top

333
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soil and seed out there in November to

334
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get it to grow, but if you proceeded

335
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now, you'd have a chance.

336
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» It's not going to happen now. It'll be

337
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It'll be spring.

338
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» Yeah.

339
00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:06,160
In which case then, yeah, we might wait

340
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to do it.

341
00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:11,240
Do the construction at the end of the

342
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winter [clears throat] and then

343
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we'll be um,

344
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both planting plugs and seeding the

345
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area.

346
00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:22,560
» So, what are the uh, changes on the map

347
00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:24,920
here? I'm still a little confused. Is it

348
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just the area in red, or is it also the

349
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blue and the

350
00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:31,160
black stripes?

351
00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:32,960
» So, the area in red is not moving

352
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forward.

353
00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:37,600
Um,

354
00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:40,160
is that that's everything. Is there

355
00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:41,720
another document that they might have?

356
00:14:40,160 --> 00:14:42,960
» They've been sent another document that

357
00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:45,240
I saw this sheet

358
00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,240
that I

359
00:14:45,760 --> 00:14:50,080
» Can he see if there's yet another

360
00:14:47,839 --> 00:14:52,040
document otherwise or is there a way to

361
00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:54,120
like zoom in?

362
00:14:52,040 --> 00:14:57,440
» Well, look it looks like this one was

363
00:14:54,120 --> 00:14:57,880
revised August 2026. Is that the latest

364
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version?

365
00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:01,120
» There's just a clean

366
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a clean document that

367
00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:05,400
» Okay. Yeah, that threw me off when I

368
00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,400
looked at it.

369
00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:10,839
» Um,

370
00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:19,480
well, yeah, here I have

371
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is

372
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» Yeah.

373
00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:49,760
» So you're doing 108 ft fill.

374
00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:51,780
Okay, then you're putting uh

375
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» [laughter]

376
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» So you're running

377
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You're running riprap behind the riprap

378
00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:02,920
first, right?

379
00:15:59,960 --> 00:16:02,920
Is that way it's working?

380
00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:19,680
So you're doing your riprap first.

381
00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:21,200
Right? That's what you're showing here.

382
00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:22,520
Then you're doing

383
00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:24,280
Of course you got your fiber cloth, then

384
00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:26,520
the cloth comes up, covers the riprap,

385
00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:28,960
goes back, and you you're

386
00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:31,960
doing your 4 in of topsoil

387
00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,960
on top of sand.

388
00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:35,920
It's right in there.

389
00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:38,360
The right above that red.

390
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Lower it.

391
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And planting.

392
00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:46,160
Vegetation.

393
00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,560
Are we stable?

394
00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,680
Okay.

395
00:17:06,319 --> 00:17:09,880
Okay, and a grade.

396
00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:12,439
Yeah.

397
00:17:12,839 --> 00:17:15,560
Oh,

398
00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:19,040
Yeah, Yeah,

399
00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,120
3 ft.

400
00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:21,480
» Yeah, 3 to 1

401
00:17:20,120 --> 00:17:25,000
» Yeah.

402
00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:27,400
» 3 ft up, 1 ft up, 1 ft up.

403
00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,400
» Mhm.

404
00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:49,520
» Um there is um

405
00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:49,520
a little bit of vegetation.

406
00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:55,000
Um yeah.

407
00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:55,000
» And a lot of it's right there.

408
00:17:57,360 --> 00:18:00,120
» Get rid of it now.

409
00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:19,760
» No,

410
00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:19,760
we are planting it.

411
00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:41,080
» You looking to get a swamp milkweed?

412
00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:46,160
» Regular milkweed?

413
00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,560
Oh, like an open field.

414
00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:50,720
» It's pretty dry.

415
00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,720
» It's not really

416
00:19:01,560 --> 00:19:04,353
Yeah.

417
00:19:02,333 --> 00:19:04,353
» [laughter]

418
00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:16,600
» I just moved one of my

419
00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,600
monarch caterpillars.

420
00:19:18,360 --> 00:19:21,520
And mine

421
00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:23,120
» Yeah, they like to slide. They like to

422
00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:26,200
do that. I don't know why they I don't

423
00:19:23,120 --> 00:19:26,200
know why they do that. Maybe cuz

424
00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:37,440
» Uh no, yeah.

425
00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:39,280
» Do you have any more questions?

426
00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:39,920
» I think

427
00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:42,480
» Uh I got

428
00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:42,480
» I need you.

429
00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:47,080
» Pretty nice of

430
00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,840
» Okay, I guess we

431
00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:12,480
» A motion to approve 20251

432
00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:14,200
253.

433
00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,600
» Motion to approve.

434
00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:16,080
» Second.

435
00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:17,520
» Second.

436
00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,080
» All in favor?

437
00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:19,240
» I.

438
00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,760
» I.

439
00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,760
» Removed.

440
00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,680
» Thank you.

441
00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,440
» Any new business?

442
00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:47,240
» I don't believe we have any aside from

443
00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:47,240
the two uh permit applications.

444
00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,960
» And I believe all all of our old

445
00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:56,600
business has been discussed.

446
00:20:53,960 --> 00:21:00,280
» I was I was curious if anybody uh had a

447
00:20:56,600 --> 00:21:02,560
chance to look at the Farley valve

448
00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:05,680
uh project that uh we approved last

449
00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:07,160
year. I I didn't

450
00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,760
I didn't see it. I can't remember if it

451
00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:10,160
was on somebody's property or not,

452
00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,320
though, which makes it a little more

453
00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:14,040
hard to

454
00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:14,040
visit it.

455
00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:18,000
You know how sometimes we like to follow

456
00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:20,120
up on the projects to see

457
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:22,600
how they look.

458
00:21:20,120 --> 00:21:22,600
» Uh

459
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:28,760
Mr. Crane and I initially uh visited

460
00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:30,080
Fall to Veil.

461
00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,640
We know what's

462
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,400
uh they're supposed to be doing. There

463
00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,400
is some activity on the property at this

464
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:37,400
time.

465
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:39,600
Uh but as far as a uh

466
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,600
uh

467
00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:44,400
wall fish concerned, I I couldn't I

468
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,920
couldn't speak to that.

469
00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,800
» I haven't been down there since we were

470
00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:49,440
there. It looks like they're filling in

471
00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,880
the

472
00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:53,240
the the hole there with

473
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,240
» Yes.

474
00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:58,040
And

475
00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:59,960
and also I lacked the opportunity to go

476
00:21:58,040 --> 00:22:01,600
back out on the Potomac again where they

477
00:21:59,960 --> 00:22:03,160
were were

478
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:05,640
removing the

479
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:07,600
the the the tombstones from the

480
00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:09,720
riverbank.

481
00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,640
» Yes, I'd like to go there, too.

482
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,960
» So,

483
00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,000
uh

484
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:17,120
» Field trip.

485
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:18,180
» If we could I could ask the county

486
00:22:17,120 --> 00:22:20,200
to

487
00:22:18,180 --> 00:22:20,200
» [groaning]

488
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:24,320
» Look into having us visit those those

489
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,120
two sites.

490
00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,800
» Yes, sir. I will reach out to the

491
00:22:26,120 --> 00:22:29,320
landowners and see if we can coordinate

492
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:30,160
something.

493
00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,600
» Okay.

494
00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,960
» That way one can go with you and one can

495
00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,080
go with me to another time cuz we've

496
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,560
already been there once.

497
00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:37,560
» Yes.

498
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,080
» Yes, sir.

499
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:49,440
» There's a dock and then it looks like

500
00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,440
vegetation planning.

501
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:55,080
I think that's the Rappahannock there.

502
00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,080
» Yes, it is. Yes.

503
00:22:59,680 --> 00:23:02,520
» They're filling in the gravel pit pretty

504
00:23:01,120 --> 00:23:04,160
quickly.

505
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,520
I'm not sure what all they're putting in

506
00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:07,760
there, but they're putting something in

507
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,760
it.

508
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:12,000
» They said they were going to use uh

509
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,320
» Dredge material

510
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,120
» Dredged

511
00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,640
uh river material.

512
00:23:15,120 --> 00:23:17,560
» Yeah.

513
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:19,000
» Uh material that they

514
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,600
uh

515
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:22,880
and

516
00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,880
uh

517
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:30,000
the phrase that they use, I can't

518
00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:33,000
remember, but what it is is just ground

519
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:35,680
up stumps and dirt

520
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:39,640
that they were dumping there.

521
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:43,680
So, the actual uh

522
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:46,840
uh visual effects of what they are doing

523
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:48,080
has been blinded by the berm that they

524
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,280
built.

525
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:51,080
» Yeah, but we didn't really we were down

526
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,080
on the water.

527
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:52,960
» We were on the water.

528
00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,200
» Yeah. Yeah.

529
00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:57,240
» Right. The part that we had to

530
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:59,200
investigate was

531
00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,280
the part on the water that

532
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,200
» Part where it doesn't have anything to

533
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,240
do with us.

534
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,480
» Allowed they

535
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:03,800
» Unfortunately.

536
00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:05,200
» They said

537
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,400
» You got to go buy it.

538
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:10,920
» Allowed the barges to come in

539
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,920
with that silt.

540
00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:12,840
That's That's this area here that you

541
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,280
That's

542
00:24:12,840 --> 00:24:15,760
» A lot of dump trucks going in there

543
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,600
every day.

544
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:20,120
» What for? In order for us to get there,

545
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,840
we had to we had to This This part was a

546
00:24:20,120 --> 00:24:24,040
route that we came.

547
00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,320
It started back over here somewhere.

548
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,160
And we

549
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:28,920
» Looks like now you can go in that

550
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:30,760
that gate, too, I think it is.

551
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,360
The one near Rickenbacker.

552
00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:34,680
» Right. Now we can.

553
00:24:32,360 --> 00:24:34,680
» Yeah.

554
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:40,360
» I would like to bring up one note back

555
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,840
on the uh Navy projects real quick

556
00:24:40,360 --> 00:24:45,120
before

557
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:47,280
I guess we leave, is there any

558
00:24:45,120 --> 00:24:49,960
suggestion from the Wetland Board on

559
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:52,880
potential mitigation requirements due to

560
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:55,600
the uh wetland impacts there or is the

561
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:58,720
approval approval without mitigation

562
00:24:55,600 --> 00:25:02,600
required? Just making that note

563
00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:02,600
on that specific application.

564
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,600
» I believe the other project there was no

565
00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,280
litigation involved, was it?

566
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,360
» No.

567
00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,360
» I don't think so.

568
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:14,360
» I'd say no cuz they're not they're not

569
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,800
digging or anything. They're just

570
00:25:14,360 --> 00:25:19,360
they're [clears throat] just adding soil

571
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:19,360
to to build it up a little bit.

572
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,840
» Just with there being wetland impacts, I

573
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:28,080
I just wanted to confirm

574
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,080
the board's decision on that.

575
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:33,000
» The benefits of this project are going

576
00:25:31,120 --> 00:25:35,640
to help the swamp area

577
00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:35,640
in the end.

578
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,640
» On a base, yeah.

579
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,000
» So you like I said, I just wanted to

580
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,800
clarify.

581
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:45,680
» It's a fishing boat.

582
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,680
» I won't be up there.

583
00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,600
» Anything else? I hear a motion to

584
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:56,840
adjourn.

585
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,400
» So moved.

586
00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:59,480
» Second.

587
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,120
» All in favor?

588
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:02,280
» Aye.

589
00:26:00,120 --> 00:26:02,280
» Aye.

590
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:09,160
» Thanks everyone for attending.

591
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:09,160
» 7:00.