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Good afternoon. We like to call this

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meeting to order. We appreciate all of

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you being here and being an active part

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of our government of city government.

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It's important that you're here and we once again we appreciate you being

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here. Uh we have a busy schedule

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tonight. This is the regularly scheduled

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meeting of the Kingman City Council held

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at 5:00 p.m. on Tuesday, October 6,

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2026. I'd like to turn some time over to

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our city clerk.

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>> Mayor Watkins

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>> present.

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>> Vice Mayor Samley

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>> here. Council member Dykins

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>> Council member Savage

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>> Council member Staley

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>> present.

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>> Council member Walker is excused this

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evening. Council member Ward

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>> We have a quorum.

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>> Thank you, Annie. Our in we would like

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to invite those who would like to stand

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with us for our invocation which will be

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given by Pastor Michael Bell of King

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Manazarine Church after which we will

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have the pledge of allegiance.

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Good afternoon. Let us pray.

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Heavenly Father, you have been our

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hiding place and our protector

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throughout all generations.

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And we stand before you this day to ask

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for your hand of blessing upon this city

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board, its workers, and the inhabitants

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of our city.

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Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, guide

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these your servants and give them your

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wisdom today. Help them to lead with

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wisdom and strength. Be their light and

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guide today. Bless us now, Almighty God.

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In the name of our Lord and Savior Jesus

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Christ, I pray. Amen.

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>> I will lead us in pledge of allegiance.

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I pledge algiance to the flag of the

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United States of America and to the

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republic for which it stands, one nation

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under God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.

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>> All right. Thank you.

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And I also would like to just rem

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recognize those who might be watching

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our YouTube channel uh of the

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proceedings of city council. The council

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may go into executive session for legal

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counsel in accordance with ARS

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to discuss any agenda items. The

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following items may be discussed,

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considered, and decisions made relating

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there too. We have uh three agenda um

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awards recognitions that we would in

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proclamations that we would like to read

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tonight and share with the public. Our

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first one is uh 1a a proclamation of

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community planning month and this is

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recognizing our community our planning

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department. I'd like to read this.

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Whereas change is constant and affects

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all cities, towns, suburbs, counties,

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burrows, townships, rural areas, and

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other places. And planners can help

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navigate this this change with

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data-driven insights and expertise that

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provide better choices for how people

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work and live. And community planning in

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provides an opportunity for all

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residents to be meaningful meaningfully

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involved in making choices that

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determine the future of their community.

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And the full benefits of planning

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require public elected and appointed

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officials who understand, support, and

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demand excellence in planning and plan

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imple implementation.

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And the month of October is designated

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as national community planning month

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throughout the United States of America

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and its territories. And the American

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Planning Association endorses National

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Community Planning Month as an

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opportunity to highlight how planning is

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essential to every community and how

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planners are uniquely positioned to

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identify solutions to communities most

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difficult house most difficult housing,

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transportation, and land use questions.

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And the celebration of National

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Community Planning Month gives us the

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opportunity to publicly recognize the participation and dedication of

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appointed planning commission members

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who have contributed their time and

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expertise to the improvement of the city

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of Kingman. And whereas we recognize the

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many valuable contributions made by the

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professional community and regional

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planners of the city of Kingman and

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extend our heartfelt thanks for the

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continued commitment to public service

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by these professionals. Now therefore,

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I, Ken Watkins, mayor of the city of

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Kingman, do proclaim the month of

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October 2026,

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community planning month. in conjunction

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with the celebration of national

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community community planning month and

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in doing so so urge the residents of our

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community to join us as we participate

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in community planning month activities.

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Of course, it's signed by myself and

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witnessed by our city clerk Annie

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Meredith. And once again, we'd like to

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recognize our team that works for the

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city um in our development services

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department and for all that they do. Um

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there you are.

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and and and yours associated counsel.

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picture here.

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» And of course, our planning and zoning

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commission as I mentioned in the

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Okay, actually you guys should be we'll

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hold it all together. How's that?

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» You got it, Sarah.

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» Good to see you as always. How are you?

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These proclamations are always fun and I

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appreciate the opportunity that we have

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to recognize the different um

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organizations in our city and what they

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do for our city. Secondly, we have

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um Golden Eagle Young Marines

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Day proclamation.

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Whereas the Young Marines is a

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nationally nonprofit youth education and

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service program focused on the mental,

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moral and physical development of its

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members. The local Golden Eagle Young

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Marines unit provides vital structure,

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mentorship, and leadership opportunities

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to young people across Mojave County,

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actively drawing its youth membership

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from Kingman, Bullhead City, and Golden

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Valley.

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that unit commander Jessica an an R

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River Ria and a team of adult

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volunteers. This regional unit instills

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the core values of leadership,

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discipline, teamwork, and civil respons

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civic responsibility,

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preparing area youth to become

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productive citizens and future leaders.

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The Golden Eagle Young Marines actively

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advocate for a healthy, drug-free

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lifestyle across these tri-state

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communities, leading by example and

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encouraging their peers to make

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positive, life affirming choices.

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leaders of this unit consistently

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dedicate their time to vital public

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service, this includes supporting area

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veterans, honoring country and community

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and local civic events, and leading

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community services projects across the

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region. The city of Kingman desires to

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recognize the exceptional character,

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regional impact, and patriotism

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demonstrated by these young citizens and

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their adult leadership. And now

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therefore, I Ken Watkins, mayor of the

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city of Kingman, do proclaim October

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17th, 2026

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as Golden Eagle Young Marines Day in the

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city of Kingman and call upon upon all

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citizens to commend these young leaders

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from Kingman, Bullhead City, and Golden

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Valley for their outstanding service to

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our community and country. And of

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course, signed by myself and our

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witnessed by our city clerk, Annie

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Meredith. Once again, I appreciate the

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young Marines and all they do. Um, in

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fact, they this last Saturday had their

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annual birthday party and had invited me

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to be their guest of honor. And of

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course, I was pleasure had it was a

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great pleasure to be there. And we have

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some here today. And so, if we could

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council, if we could get a photo with um

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those who are here as far as

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representing young Marines.

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of the evening right here.

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Okay, our third proclamation is for the

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Kingman Cancer Awareness Month. And I'd

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like to actually turn this over to our

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vice mayor.

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Give her anyway, she does a great job

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doing these presentations also. So,

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It is uh my great pleasure to read the

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uh proclamation for the Kingman cancer

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awareness month. Whereas the mission of

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the Kingman cancer care unit is to

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provide financial aid and mor moral

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support to the patient and their family.

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volunteers who educate the community on

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available resources to control cancer.

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is dedicated to informing and reminding

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the population of the facts about

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cancer, its early detection, its prompt

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treatment by competent medical methods,

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and its prevention where practicable and

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whereas the Kingman cancer care unit

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assists patients with transportation,

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out of town room and board, personal

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equipment, health equipment, and other

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emergency assistance. Whereas these are

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just a few of the many ways the Kingman

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Care Cancer Care Unit services the needs

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of the Kingman of Kingman and the

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vicinity. Now therefore, Mr. Ken

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Watkins, Mayor does here by proclaim the

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month of October 20 2026 as Kingman

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Cancer Awareness Month in Kingman,

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Arizona. Furthermore, because early

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diagnosis of cancer can make a

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tremendous difference in the course of

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one's life, we all urge the citizens of

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Kingman and the vicinity to take

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advantage of the services offered by the

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Kingman cancer care unit. In witness

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whereof, uh he has set his hand uh to

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the seal of the city of Kingman uh Mayor

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Ken Watkins and attested by our clerk

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Annie Meredith. If you will, uh, Claire,

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the cancer care unit or we can just do a

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photo? It's up to you. Okay, great. If

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you'll join join us down there, that's

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>> And just so you know, vice mayor wore

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her beautiful pink shoes today.

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once again, we appreciate all that our

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cancer care unit does.

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>> There you go.

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» I forgot to wear my pink shoes, but Oh,

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>> You're gonna You're competing with the

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vice mayor in her pink shoes.

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You want to be in the middle right

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behind us.

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» Get her shoes in the picture, too.

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>> We'll help you.

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>> There you go.

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» Sorry.

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» [laughter]

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>> sometimes.

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Got it.

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>> Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank

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you, sir.

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>> Okay. [applause]

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» I know. Miss you. A thank you.

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>> Ah, thank you so much.

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>> I know.

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» Thank you.

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>> Appreciate all you do.

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>> Thank you, mayor.

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>> See you.

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» Thank you again. Thank you, sir.

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Appreciate it.

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>> Your honor.

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>> Oh, no.

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I know.

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» Thank you, Vice Mayor. She does an

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eloquent job doing that and that's why I

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wanted to share with her. So,

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[applause]

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>> okay, moving on to our agenda. Item

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number two, call to the public. Comments

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from the public. Those wishing to

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address the council should fill out

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request forms in advance. Comments from

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the public will be restricted to items

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not on the agenda with the exception of

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those on the consent agenda. There will

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be no comments allowed that advertise

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for a particular person or group.

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Comments should be limited to no longer

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than 3 minutes. The council may not

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respond to speakers during the call to

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the public. The council may direct the

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city manager to study the matter or

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request that the matter be placed on a

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future agenda. We have a number of of

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you citizens that have signed up to

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speak and we appreciate you being here

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to do and share your thoughts. First,

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we'd like to ask Mr. um Angelos

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Shakapalos.

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» Okay. [laughter]

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Would you like to come forward, please?

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So, is it Angel?

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>> Well, they call me Angel, but it's

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actually it's um Angelos.

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>> Angelos, right?

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>> Angel is much better.

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>> Welcome.

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>> Thank you for having me tonight. Um I'm

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here tonight because I would like to

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invite all you guys to our grand opening

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um in November 5th. And this is a uh

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ground opening. We are going to break

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the ground to build our uh homes for our

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veterans. There'll be 71 homes. And um

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this is a wonderful wonderful thing for

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our veterans that um have nowhere to go.

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So I I brought some invitations and

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everyone in this room is also welcome to

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come and watch this wonderful God-given

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gift that we have gotten for the Kingman

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people.

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>> Remind us what the name of that is going

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to be called something village.

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>> I'm sorry.

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>> What's the name of that that going to

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be? It's on over on Sunshine.

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>> Yeah, it's called the um Commons.

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Um, oh, thank you. I'm sorry I dropped

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it.

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Anyway, um, yeah, so it's open to the

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public. Like I said, we're going to have

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food and, uh, there'll be some, uh, very

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important people there that, um, you

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know, would like to find out what we are

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up to with our veterans, past and

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present, and future home for them. So,

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here's the here's the invitations for

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you guys. and also um everyone in this

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room is invited as well. Thank you. God

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bless.

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>> Thank you, Angelos.

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>> Thank you. [applause]

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And

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>> of course,

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the Jerry Ambrose Veteran Center and

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everybody calls it the JABC does a lot

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for our community, especially for our

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veterans. So, this will be an amazing

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thing to do.

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Sally

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>> [laughter]

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>> Who who that globe?

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>> Logan.

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>> Okay. Thanks, Sally.

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>> I'm not sure exactly right, but we'll

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go. I just wanted to kind of address you

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as a participant at the senior center,

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adult center, and to say um that it is

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still going on. It is still strong and

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that uh we enjoy that. And we want to

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invite all seniors and adults to join us

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there for everything from dancing to

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singing to to arts to crafts and all of

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that. And it is still going well. So

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thank you very much. Thank you, Sally.

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[applause]

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» Terresa Roundy.

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Mayor, Council, it is an honor to

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address my hometown community as I

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prepare for an upcoming public debate.

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Because this is the community where I

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first experienced public speaking and

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student council, I find it fitting to

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practice here in the safety of my

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hometown. As we learn more about recent

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events surrounding

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the count uh the Cornell 57, our leaders

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must address why students are graduating

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without the critical skills needed to

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resist systematic hierarchy and

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codependency.

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Additionally,

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coercive control and domestic abuse

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remain paramount concerns that every

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state and local school superintendent

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must address directly. These issues are

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closely linked to family estrangement, a

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reality experienced by one in four

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Americans. Furthermore, 22.5% of

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Americans have been alienated from

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family attachments without due process

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or sufficient evidence in family court.

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There is a 2025 Idaho judicial report

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and it's the first in the nation on this

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national and worldwide issue to ensure

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the safety of our children and families.

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Meaningful conversations are essential

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to drive real change. Child suicide is

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now the second leading cause of death

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among youth. And our children deserve

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leaders who will address root causes.

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such as the malicious severing of family

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attachments occurring at an 82%

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rate which places families at the

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highest risk rate for suicide.

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Family safety is paramount with family

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estrangement affecting so many

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institutions and third-party care

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facilities must not facilitate

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estrangement within vulnerable families.

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This issue must be addressed not only in

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our school district but across elder

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care to ensure the family unit remains a

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top priority. We must protect the

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constitutional rights of parent child

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bonds and prevent institutions and care

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facilities from participating in

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dynamics that sever these vital

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attachments.

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You know, a study just came out on

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grandparents, you know, being estranged

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from their grandkids and that that

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causes them to die sooner. That goes in

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line with another study found that when

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children are severed from attachment, it

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reorgani reorganizes every cell in their

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body for less life expectancy. Child SA

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does not do that, but Family Court is

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doing that to children. I hope to have

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my hometown support in spirit as I

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continue advocating for the protection

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of children and families in our nation.

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Thank you very much.

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>> Thank you, Teresa.

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[applause]

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» Mr. Robert Tally,

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I'm sorry, Robert Thally.

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» [clears throat]

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>> This is not just for you. It's people.

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>> Be sure to speak into the mic so

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everybody can hear. But you they'll hear you. They just

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>> you have to face the

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>> You need to face us because the camera

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is on.

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>> Good morning, Mr. Mayor, members of the

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council,

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and fellow citizens,

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all of you

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American patriots.

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We all feel the weariness of uh modern

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uh public discourse.

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turn on the uh turn on the uh turn on

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the just turn on the news and open your

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or open your phone and

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we see a landscape of divided partisan

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fighting,

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tribal noise and endless

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and and endless uh and an endless spine.

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It feels like we are constantly being

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pushed into opposing corners, leaving

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many of leaving many of us wondering

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where the where the truth went and where

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our domestic tranquility has gone.

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People all across our our community and

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our country feel this in in our in their

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hearts every day.

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We sense the we we sense this ability.

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We sense the dis the lack of ability to

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fix it.

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The solution isn't about choosing a

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political side.

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It's about returning to the na to the n

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to the neutral ground.

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That is why I am here tonight to

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advocate for a vital forward-looking

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step, a 28th amendment for the digital

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age.

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Just as our founders established constit

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structural

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protections to guard our basic liberties

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centuries ago. We now need we now need a

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long uh we now need a a nonpartisan

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constitutional framework that guarantees

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neutrality.

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Fairness and truth are the digital

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information infrastructure.

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True reform doesn't start at the top. It

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starts at the bottom. It starts with us,

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we the people.

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a local community

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planner, city planners,

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and people just like the council that is

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before you. Ladies and gentlemen,

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>> Mr. Tally, you're out of time.

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>> Thank you.

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[applause]

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» I have copies for anybody that would

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like one.

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>> Mr. Steven Robinson.

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Stephen Robinson, Golden Valley,

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Arizona. Many of you know me. I've been

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working hard on elections for over 15

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years. I have monitored the elections

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here in Mojave County and Arizona since

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2010 and across this nation since 96.

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Our vote right to vote is one of the

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most sacred privileges we have that I

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encourage everyone regardless of party

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to exercise.

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So that's why it pains me to bring up

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this issue that this council approved

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some time ago which was basically to

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restrict

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free speech and not allow signs where

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they should be allowed. I've traveled

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all over the state. I was just in of

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Scottsdale last week and Scottsdale Road

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is the busiest road in Maricopa County

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and there is not one, not two, but six

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or eight signs at every corner

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of Scottsdale Road and in Glendale,

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everywhere else it's like that. So the

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rule or the opinion that was given to

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you and you voted for it to restrict the

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signs on Scottsdale on Airway

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which are not tourist areas. They're not

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00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,880
hotel areas. They're business areas

559
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:24,960
where people go.

560
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,360
It doesn't technically violate the

561
00:28:27,360 --> 00:28:29,679
letter of the law, which is going to be

562
00:28:29,679 --> 00:28:31,840
changed this next session, I promise

563
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,000
you. But it does violate the spirit of

564
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:37,279
the law to not allow signs on those

565
00:28:37,279 --> 00:28:39,520
areas. It's it is a form of voter

566
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,320
suppression by not allowing signs where

567
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:46,080
they should be. I have worked for years

568
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,559
getting out the vote, knocking on doors.

569
00:28:48,559 --> 00:28:50,240
Even though I live in Golden Valley, I

570
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,320
probably spent more time in Kingman than

571
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:54,880
I have at home because I've worked for

572
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,880
the party. I've worked for knocking on

573
00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,480
doors to get people out to vote. So

574
00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,919
voting and uh participation in the

575
00:29:03,919 --> 00:29:05,840
electoral process is very important to

576
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,000
me and I think you should review that

577
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,799
sign because or that ordinance that says

578
00:29:10,799 --> 00:29:13,279
no signs on those streets because it

579
00:29:13,279 --> 00:29:16,080
violates the spirit of the law and soon

580
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,480
hopefully this next year our state

581
00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,480
senator will make sure it violates the

582
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,720
letter of the law for the future. Thank

583
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,039
you. And I hope everyone here gets out

584
00:29:25,039 --> 00:29:28,720
to vote April or before November 3rd and

585
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:30,799
no later than November 3rd unless you're

586
00:29:30,799 --> 00:29:34,240
of the other party.

587
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:40,389
>> Thank you, Steve. [applause]

588
00:29:40,399 --> 00:29:43,120
That is it for our call to the public. I

589
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:44,320
did want to mention, I should have

590
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:45,360
mentioned at the beginning of the

591
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,320
meeting that on our agenda, items 4 A

592
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,760
and 4 C have been pulled from tonight's

593
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,080
agenda and they might come up at a later

594
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,720
date. Thank you. So, moving on. Item

595
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,720
three, consent agenda. All matters

596
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,399
listed here are considered to be routine

597
00:30:00,399 --> 00:30:02,880
by the city council and will be enacted

598
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,200
by one motion. There will be no separate

599
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:07,760
discussion of these items. If discussion

600
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,600
is desired, that item will be removed

601
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,760
from the consent agenda and will be

602
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:13,919
considered separately. Council, we have

603
00:30:13,919 --> 00:30:17,919
items 3 A through H. Is there anything

604
00:30:17,919 --> 00:30:21,520
that needs to be pulled or discussed?

605
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,360
>> Okay, seeing none, can we have a motion

606
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,080
then approving our consent agenda item

607
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:26,720
three?

608
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:27,360
>> So move.

609
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:28,080
>> I'll second.

610
00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:29,919
>> We have a motion and a second. All those

611
00:30:29,919 --> 00:30:31,279
in favor say I.

612
00:30:31,279 --> 00:30:32,000
>> I.

613
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,760
>> Any opposed? Thank you.

614
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:40,320
Item four B, approval of resolution

615
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,960
number 5640, intergovernmental agreement

616
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,039
with Mojave County for yellow bus route

617
00:30:45,039 --> 00:30:47,440
funding. During the city of Kingman

618
00:30:47,440 --> 00:30:49,200
annual budgeting process, it was

619
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,440
determined that potential reductions in

620
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,640
the Kingman area regional transit cart

621
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,039
system would be needed. The cart yellow

622
00:30:57,039 --> 00:30:59,039
bus route, which primarily services

623
00:30:59,039 --> 00:31:00,720
multiple stops in the county north of

624
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,399
Kingman,

625
00:31:02,399 --> 00:31:04,640
was recommended for reduction. In order

626
00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:06,240
to keep the yellow rat in operation,

627
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:09,120
Mojave County has committed $30,000 in

628
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,240
funding through June 30th, 2027.

629
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,440
Staff recommends approval.

630
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:16,320
Manager Walsh.

631
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,799
>> Yes, sir. I'll take it. Um, so with

632
00:31:18,799 --> 00:31:21,279
this, as you mentioned, uh, we've been

633
00:31:21,279 --> 00:31:22,880
working with a number of stakeholders to

634
00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,200
try and generate funding to maintain the

635
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,200
yellow route. Uh, Mojave County has

636
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:31,120
committed $30,000 through, um, June 30th

637
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:35,200
of 2027. And this basically authorizes

638
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,919
that payment.

639
00:31:37,919 --> 00:31:40,159
>> Any questions for Tim? Pretty

640
00:31:40,159 --> 00:31:41,519
straightforward. We're thankful that the

641
00:31:41,519 --> 00:31:45,600
county is willing to do that and to help

642
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,360
of course not just the citizens that

643
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,240
live in the Kingman city Kingman city

644
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,080
limits but also out on the county. It's

645
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,480
a great move. Um is there any other

646
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,039
comments or questions from council?

647
00:31:57,039 --> 00:31:58,960
Okay. Seeing none, can we have a motion

648
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,519
then approving item 4B, approval of

649
00:32:01,519 --> 00:32:03,840
resolution number 5640.

650
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:04,559
>> So moved.

651
00:32:04,559 --> 00:32:05,120
>> Second.

652
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,039
>> We have a motion. We have a second. All

653
00:32:07,039 --> 00:32:08,640
those in favor say I.

654
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,440
>> I. Any opposed? Motion carries. Thank

655
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,440
you. Item number five, department

656
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,000
reports 5A, Katherine Hidenrich Adult

657
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,720
Center update.

658
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:23,190
Welcome, Tina.

659
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,039
» Thank you so much, Mayor, Vice Mayor,

660
00:32:25,039 --> 00:32:28,080
and council members.

661
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,960
Uh, tonight is a little bit of a twofold

662
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,960
department report. I'm going to give a

663
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,760
couple of slide presentation to share a

664
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:37,679
little bit about the history of the

665
00:32:37,679 --> 00:32:39,919
agreement that we have in place with the

666
00:32:39,919 --> 00:32:43,200
center and what our current agreement

667
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:44,480
covers, a little bit about the

668
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,320
responsibilities of each of the parties,

669
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,399
what the funding looks like. And then we

670
00:32:48,399 --> 00:32:50,640
also have with us this evening, we have

671
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,960
the executive current executive director

672
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:54,880
with the center as well as two of their

673
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,600
board members. and the vice president,

674
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,880
Marty Edwards, uh will uh is more than

675
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,279
happy to approach once I've completed my

676
00:33:03,279 --> 00:33:04,880
presentation to answer any additional

677
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,799
questions that you might have. You do

678
00:33:06,799 --> 00:33:08,559
have before you a packet that they have

679
00:33:08,559 --> 00:33:10,159
prepared with quite a bit of

680
00:33:10,159 --> 00:33:12,559
information. So, uh they would certainly

681
00:33:12,559 --> 00:33:14,080
be willing to answer any questions on

682
00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:32,149
that, too.

683
00:33:32,159 --> 00:33:35,430
All right,

684
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:43,990
Erin, are you helping me out down there?

685
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,593
Thank you.

686
00:33:46,593 --> 00:33:48,080
[clears throat] All right, so a little

687
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:49,919
bit about the history of the agreement.

688
00:33:49,919 --> 00:33:53,679
So from the 1990s until 2013, the city

689
00:33:53,679 --> 00:33:56,240
actually provided the adult center with

690
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,480
a recreation coordinator, two part-time

691
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:02,240
employees, and we also stored a vehicle

692
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,960
there. But beginning in 2013, we know

693
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,720
what happened during that time. So the

694
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,119
city was looking to save some monies and

695
00:34:09,119 --> 00:34:12,000
decided to no longer provide the people

696
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:14,079
for the facility, but did offer to

697
00:34:14,079 --> 00:34:18,480
contribute $57,000 annually towards uh

698
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,000
towards the program. specifically

699
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:30,310
towards the people costs.

700
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,000
So the current agreement, what are the

701
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:33,520
key terms and conditions of the current

702
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:34,560
agreement? The current the current

703
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,960
agreement is actually very simple. The

704
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,560
current agreement became effective in

705
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:40,960
July of last year. It runs for 5 years

706
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,760
through June 30th of 2030. It could be

707
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,679
terminated any time with I believe it's

708
00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:48,399
60 days notice. It does provide for

709
00:34:48,399 --> 00:34:51,359
$57,000 in annual funding. So again,

710
00:34:51,359 --> 00:34:54,000
that amount was was um provided to them

711
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,240
back in 2013 and has stayed the same

712
00:34:56,240 --> 00:34:58,880
since that since that time. And funding

713
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,040
is contingent on the city's available

714
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,390
funds.

715
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,320
So what are the responsibilities for

716
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,320
each of the parties? The adult center

717
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:11,920
will use our funds to hire at least two

718
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,720
employees to manage the activities. They

719
00:35:14,720 --> 00:35:16,720
will provide quarterly spending reports.

720
00:35:16,720 --> 00:35:18,480
And by spending reports, I mean the

721
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:20,160
payroll reports because that's all that

722
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:21,599
we're providing funding for. So that's

723
00:35:21,599 --> 00:35:24,160
all that we would require. And they

724
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,320
would need to provide financial

725
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,720
documents relating to that payroll,

726
00:35:28,720 --> 00:35:30,400
additional financial documents than what

727
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,160
they provide in the event we wanted to

728
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,200
perform some sort of financial review.

729
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,839
And then they would need to provide an

730
00:35:37,839 --> 00:35:40,000
account of any unexpended funds, which

731
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:41,760
you'll see in a later slide that that is

732
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,000
not the case. What is the city of

733
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,839
Kingman's responsibilities? To pay that

734
00:35:45,839 --> 00:35:50,000
$57,000 on a quarterly basis. We provide

735
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:51,839
that funding subject to the availability

736
00:35:51,839 --> 00:35:54,720
of the funds and then we would notify

737
00:35:54,720 --> 00:35:56,320
the adult center if there was a budget

738
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,200
shortfall. Now, the quarterly spending

739
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,200
reports, just so you are aware, we

740
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,839
receive those via email prior to us

741
00:36:03,839 --> 00:36:08,790
issuing that quarterly installment.

742
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,520
So, just to provide some background on

743
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,119
what our costs actually cover and

744
00:36:13,119 --> 00:36:15,839
whether or not it actually does fully

745
00:36:15,839 --> 00:36:18,079
support the payroll costs of the

746
00:36:18,079 --> 00:36:21,040
facility. So, in the quarterly reports,

747
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:22,560
they provide quite a bit of detail, but

748
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,240
I've summarized that here for you. And

749
00:36:24,240 --> 00:36:26,480
you'll see down here where it says total

750
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,599
payroll expenses for the center is about

751
00:36:29,599 --> 00:36:31,280
$79,000.

752
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,680
The city provides $57,000.

753
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:35,359
And the payroll expenses that are not

754
00:36:35,359 --> 00:36:38,000
covered by us would be about $22,000. So

755
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:39,520
they have to find some sort of funding

756
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:40,960
source to cover those additional

757
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,359
expenses.

758
00:36:43,359 --> 00:36:45,440
And that is as simplistic as the

759
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,440
agreement currently is. But I can

760
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,200
certainly answer any questions about the

761
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,000
agreement before I invite uh Vice

762
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,760
President uh Marty to the podium.

763
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:58,240
>> Council, any questions for Tina?

764
00:36:58,240 --> 00:36:59,359
>> Okay. Thank you, Tina.

765
00:36:59,359 --> 00:37:06,069
>> Okay. Wonderful. Thank you so much.

766
00:37:06,079 --> 00:37:08,400
And we have executive director Kesha

767
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:14,220
Davis as well.

768
00:37:14,230 --> 00:37:16,160
[applause]

769
00:37:16,160 --> 00:37:17,359
>> Ladies, welcome.

770
00:37:17,359 --> 00:37:17,839
>> Hello.

771
00:37:17,839 --> 00:37:20,240
>> Good afternoon, city Kingman board and

772
00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:22,560
council members. My name is Kesha Davis.

773
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,079
I'm the executive director at the

774
00:37:24,079 --> 00:37:25,680
Katherine Heinrich Adult Center here in

775
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:26,160
Kingman.

776
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:27,520
>> Kesha, hold on one second. Could you

777
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:28,880
ladies switch so you're talking more

778
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,160
into the mic?

779
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,320
>> That'd be great. Thank you.

780
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,560
All right. I have here with me Marty

781
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:36,720
Adams, board vice president, as well as

782
00:37:36,720 --> 00:37:39,359
Tara Anderson, board president, as well

783
00:37:39,359 --> 00:37:41,839
as a few other members of our board, our

784
00:37:41,839 --> 00:37:43,839
center coordinator, Ashley is here, and

785
00:37:43,839 --> 00:37:45,760
a few members that just love the center

786
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:49,200
and wanted to be here to

787
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,520
witness, I guess, what's going on. Um, I

788
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,440
put together a packet of documents and

789
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,040
information to provide you with a better

790
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:56,720
understanding of how we operate on a

791
00:37:56,720 --> 00:37:59,119
daily and yearly basis. The information

792
00:37:59,119 --> 00:38:01,520
included is intended to give you a

793
00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:03,280
clearer picture of our responsibilities,

794
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:05,040
procedures, operations, and the many

795
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:06,960
factors that go into managing our center

796
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,119
and keeping it in a positive standing.

797
00:38:09,119 --> 00:38:11,119
My goal in providing this information is

798
00:38:11,119 --> 00:38:13,520
to ensure you have the essential

799
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,200
background to help understand our

800
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:17,599
day-to-day affairs of our operations. My

801
00:38:17,599 --> 00:38:18,960
hopes are this will help support

802
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,599
informed decisions, decision making, and

803
00:38:21,599 --> 00:38:23,839
communication between our organization

804
00:38:23,839 --> 00:38:26,000
and the city and concerned citizens.

805
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:27,760
This packet is intended to serve as a

806
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,359
helpful reference and provide context

807
00:38:29,359 --> 00:38:31,200
for the work we do each day and

808
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:32,960
throughout the year. [clears throat]

809
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,960
Sorry. Thank you for taking your time to

810
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:36,640
review this information. I appreciate

811
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,119
your consideration and commitment to our

812
00:38:39,119 --> 00:38:41,440
company and understand the operations

813
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,000
and responsibilities involved.

814
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:44,400
>> Okay.

815
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,000
>> Sorry.

816
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:46,480
>> Thank you.

817
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:47,280
>> It's okay.

818
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:48,800
>> Okay.

819
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:50,480
>> This

820
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:52,720
Thank you, Mayor Watkins and city

821
00:38:52,720 --> 00:38:54,720
council members. I would like to

822
00:38:54,720 --> 00:38:57,760
introduce myself to you. I'm Marty Adams

823
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,640
and I came here 40 years ago when my

824
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:03,599
husband was hired by the city of Kingman

825
00:39:03,599 --> 00:39:06,720
and he served with our community for

826
00:39:06,720 --> 00:39:09,680
over 25 years. He was the director of

827
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,640
recreation and aquatics and during that

828
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:16,160
time we served a lot of people and one

829
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,400
of the organizations that he was in

830
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,560
charge of was the Katherine Heidenrike

831
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,400
adult center. When the ca when the city

832
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:25,359
had taken it over he supervised he

833
00:39:25,359 --> 00:39:27,440
worked with the council at that time and

834
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:29,440
with the county and intergovernmental

835
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,280
agreements and things like that to

836
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,079
ensure that we understood what we would

837
00:39:34,079 --> 00:39:36,000
be doing and what the county would be

838
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,880
doing. So, I have kind of a long history

839
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:41,119
and I know a lot about what's going on

840
00:39:41,119 --> 00:39:43,839
and what's happened at the center, which

841
00:39:43,839 --> 00:39:46,800
brings us to why we're here today. In

842
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,760
June, we had a little situation that

843
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,800
happened when our director voluntarily

844
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,119
resigned. And that is your first letter

845
00:39:55,119 --> 00:39:57,920
that you have in your packet. And during

846
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,079
that time, it seemed like there was a

847
00:40:00,079 --> 00:40:02,400
division. And of course, people build

848
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,400
their armies. And we have people that

849
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,320
were on our side. We had people that

850
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,800
were on the other side.

851
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,599
Sometimes rumors go around and things

852
00:40:11,599 --> 00:40:14,560
get said and they are not true. And so

853
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,160
I'm here to clear up some of that

854
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:17,920
information and some of those rumors

855
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:21,760
that went around. So um I do want to

856
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,320
answer the question to you that or point

857
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,079
out one other thing to you. The second

858
00:40:26,079 --> 00:40:28,320
page is a letter from an our one of our

859
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:32,000
accountants and she has given us a clear

860
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:34,880
standing. We have provided taxes. We

861
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,520
have provided all the information to the

862
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:40,720
IRS. We are a 501c3. We meet all of

863
00:40:40,720 --> 00:40:43,200
those qualifications. We are in good

864
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:44,720
standing with the corporation

865
00:40:44,720 --> 00:40:47,839
commission. So, nothing is out of order.

866
00:40:47,839 --> 00:40:50,000
We have always been able to maintain

867
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,119
payroll and we have always been able to

868
00:40:53,119 --> 00:40:55,920
maintain the quality and the quantity of

869
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,079
services we're providing to the seniors

870
00:40:58,079 --> 00:41:01,200
and to the other population of Kingman.

871
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,280
We have Girl Scouts and Boy Scouts that

872
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:05,920
come and use our facility and we do that

873
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,640
free of charge. We have organizations

874
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:10,560
and they're outlined in your packet as

875
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,280
well that come and use our facility. The

876
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,440
Kingman Cancer Care Unit, the

877
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,720
Gemstoners, we have a whole plethora and

878
00:41:18,720 --> 00:41:21,440
we have people coming and going every

879
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,480
single day in that facility. We used to

880
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,359
be closed on Wednesdays when COVID hit,

881
00:41:27,359 --> 00:41:30,800
but we're open. We have plenty of things

882
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,359
going on and we are creating new

883
00:41:33,359 --> 00:41:38,640
programs. We do have two employees. It

884
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,960
used to be

885
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,000
one full-time and two part-time, but now

886
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,119
we have one full-time, Quesa, and we

887
00:41:47,119 --> 00:41:49,359
have one part-time,

888
00:41:49,359 --> 00:41:52,720
um, Ashley, and we have one employee

889
00:41:52,720 --> 00:41:56,160
that we have uh, under a 1099 form, and

890
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:58,640
he helps us out with special projects.

891
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,119
If we have to set tables up for arts and

892
00:42:01,119 --> 00:42:03,359
crafts fairs, if we have things that

893
00:42:03,359 --> 00:42:05,359
need to go on, maintenance issues, we

894
00:42:05,359 --> 00:42:07,599
have that covered. So, we're fulfilling

895
00:42:07,599 --> 00:42:10,640
our obligation and we also report to you

896
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:14,560
quarterly about our payroll and we um

897
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:15,920
are kind of thinking that we're going to

898
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:17,920
give you a little more information about

899
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:19,680
some of the other things that are going

900
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,880
on there and um just so you're appraised

901
00:42:22,880 --> 00:42:24,800
of that so you know where the money is

902
00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:28,480
going and how good it is it is. But I do

903
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,319
want to share one thing with you that's

904
00:42:30,319 --> 00:42:33,680
not in your packet. And I want you to

905
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:37,119
know that in September last month, we

906
00:42:37,119 --> 00:42:42,240
had 135 people come to our center and

907
00:42:42,240 --> 00:42:45,359
127 of them were brand new. And now

908
00:42:45,359 --> 00:42:47,760
we're starting to get more people coming

909
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:51,119
because the snowbirds are returning. In

910
00:42:51,119 --> 00:42:54,160
August we had uh 1,21

911
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:57,520
people come and 107 were new. And in

912
00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:01,599
July we had 1,096 people that came and

913
00:43:01,599 --> 00:43:04,960
about 200 were new. So we're we're

914
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:08,079
delivering services. We had provided

915
00:43:08,079 --> 00:43:12,480
dinners. Um and the the the people come

916
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,839
and we have cut it off at like 40 and we

917
00:43:15,839 --> 00:43:18,240
have continued that. We're our next

918
00:43:18,240 --> 00:43:20,319
dinner is going to be for Halloween and

919
00:43:20,319 --> 00:43:22,160
we're going to do a salad bar and have

920
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,960
spooky foods and spooky soups and stuff

921
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:28,960
like that and that's open to the public.

922
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:32,160
Um, in an email that we did receive from

923
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:34,720
the city that did pose a couple of

924
00:43:34,720 --> 00:43:36,640
questions and I want to answer those to

925
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:40,079
you. So, first of all, none of our board

926
00:43:40,079 --> 00:43:43,200
members are paid. So, I don't know where

927
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,319
that came from, but as a 501c3, we do

928
00:43:46,319 --> 00:43:48,400
not distribute any profits because we

929
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,000
really don't have any profits.

930
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:52,400
Everything goes back into our programs.

931
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:56,960
Okay. Um, we do have the um employees,

932
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,920
you know, that. And I want you to know

933
00:43:59,920 --> 00:44:01,599
that we've had people that have

934
00:44:01,599 --> 00:44:04,240
challenged us with open meeting. We are

935
00:44:04,240 --> 00:44:06,640
not a government entity. We do not have

936
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,839
to abide by that part of the law. But

937
00:44:09,839 --> 00:44:12,319
what we do is we used to meet every

938
00:44:12,319 --> 00:44:14,640
other Wednesday or every other month,

939
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,920
but now we're meeting every month. And

940
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,480
what we're doing is if somebody would

941
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,560
like to come and talk to us and present

942
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:26,720
a topic, we will have them go to Quesa,

943
00:44:26,720 --> 00:44:30,560
they can talk to Quesa and then we can

944
00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:34,480
talk about them to come. Um about two

945
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,720
board meetings ago, we had people come

946
00:44:36,720 --> 00:44:39,359
that were very angry and upset and they

947
00:44:39,359 --> 00:44:41,520
brought tape recorders and they taped

948
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,480
us. They took pictures of us. They wrote

949
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,520
every little thing down that we did. And

950
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,440
we were kind of taken back by that

951
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,200
because we've never had that kind of

952
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,040
interest before. It's been pretty

953
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,200
mundane. Just try to keep the center

954
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:57,359
going, know what the budget is, that

955
00:44:57,359 --> 00:44:59,200
kind of thing. So, we were kind of taken

956
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,599
back, but we've got a little policy in

957
00:45:01,599 --> 00:45:04,800
place together now and a procedure and

958
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:06,720
that's what mainly our board meetings

959
00:45:06,720 --> 00:45:08,800
are about now because we're getting up

960
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,119
to date with policies, procedures,

961
00:45:11,119 --> 00:45:13,440
safety things, AEDs to make sure that

962
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,960
the participants that come are very well

963
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,599
taken care of and we do have it in place

964
00:45:19,599 --> 00:45:22,480
and we have had medical emergencies, but

965
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,200
we've made been able to call 911 and get

966
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,200
people there and we are going to get

967
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,359
some people trained in. So, we're

968
00:45:29,359 --> 00:45:31,760
becoming a better setter for the

969
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:34,960
citizens of Kingman all the time. And I

970
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,760
don't know who decided to send some

971
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,680
rumors around that we're not doing our

972
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,800
job, but boy, we sure are. We have great

973
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:44,960
board members, Robin Gordon, who used to

974
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:46,880
be on the city council. She's one of our

975
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,440
board members. One of our volunteers is

976
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:52,960
Jud Judge Khan. He comes every once a

977
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:54,800
month on Friday nights and he does

978
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:58,400
movies. uh movies, old movies. He has

979
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:00,240
his narrative and you know what that can

980
00:46:00,240 --> 00:46:03,520
be like. But we have people that come in

981
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,760
and really enjoy that kind of thing. And

982
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:07,520
we're going to be doing other arts and

983
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,599
crafts classes. We are going to kind of

984
00:46:09,599 --> 00:46:14,480
be innovative. We're going to do bingo size where we're going to play

985
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:18,240
bingo and do exercises. So some of the

986
00:46:18,240 --> 00:46:19,920
people would come and get going with

987
00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,000
that because we know that that's a need.

988
00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:23,760
But that's kind of where we're at with

989
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:25,839
that. And I think I've pretty much

990
00:46:25,839 --> 00:46:27,760
answered the questions that have been

991
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:30,160
posed to the council by the council to

992
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:32,800
us and I don't know if you have any

993
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,280
other questions for us.

994
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:37,599
>> Okay, Marty Kesha, thank you.

995
00:46:37,599 --> 00:46:40,000
>> Appreciate the report and of course more

996
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:42,240
information about the center. I think a

997
00:46:42,240 --> 00:46:44,160
good portion of us know, but I think

998
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:45,920
it's good once again for the public for

999
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,880
everybody to have an idea of um what

1000
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:50,400
happens at the Katherryn Heinrich

1001
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,280
Center. And we hear good things. So,

1002
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,280
>> thank you. We appreciate that. So,

1003
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,400
council, any questions for these ladies?

1004
00:46:58,400 --> 00:46:59,040
>> No,

1005
00:46:59,040 --> 00:46:59,760
>> go ahead.

1006
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:00,079
>> Really?

1007
00:47:00,079 --> 00:47:01,119
>> Yeah. Go ahead.

1008
00:47:01,119 --> 00:47:01,520
>> Okay.

1009
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,680
>> Is that okay? All right. Um, thank you

1010
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,280
for coming in and giving us this

1011
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,760
information. I really appreciate it. Can

1012
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,240
you um just tell me a little bit about

1013
00:47:10,240 --> 00:47:12,960
your board? Um, if somebody wants to be

1014
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,119
involved in the board, is it an open

1015
00:47:15,119 --> 00:47:15,599
board?

1016
00:47:15,599 --> 00:47:16,079
>> Yes.

1017
00:47:16,079 --> 00:47:20,640
>> Okay. So, so if I um wanted to have more

1018
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:23,520
of a say in in how things were ran in in

1019
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:25,520
at the senior center, I I could be a

1020
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:27,599
board member and and help participate in

1021
00:47:27,599 --> 00:47:28,319
that way.

1022
00:47:28,319 --> 00:47:31,920
>> Absolutely. You do not have to attend

1023
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,960
and our our activities in order to be a

1024
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:36,560
board member. I don't

1025
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:39,920
>> Okay. Thank you. And then also um how

1026
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:43,520
does your board um do you have a process

1027
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:48,480
for taking complaints from from members?

1028
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,119
>> Well, you know what?

1029
00:47:51,119 --> 00:47:55,040
Up until about four years ago, we never

1030
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:56,880
had complaints.

1031
00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:00,079
>> And so the complaint department is me.

1032
00:48:00,079 --> 00:48:02,720
So, um, people, you know, from the

1033
00:48:02,720 --> 00:48:04,960
center, if they had a situation they

1034
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,119
wanted to bring forth, they certainly

1035
00:48:07,119 --> 00:48:10,640
would call me. And I, uh, when we had

1036
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:12,880
the director before Ry, who was his

1037
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:14,880
ex-wife,

1038
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,119
>> we had a number of people that were not

1039
00:48:17,119 --> 00:48:18,640
really happy about some of the things

1040
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,760
that happened during that time. So I

1041
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:26,240
compulated and uh met with John Welton

1042
00:48:26,240 --> 00:48:29,119
and another board member Robin came I

1043
00:48:29,119 --> 00:48:31,839
think and we would put a plan of action

1044
00:48:31,839 --> 00:48:34,160
together how we were going to decide

1045
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,559
what we were going to do and rectify the

1046
00:48:36,559 --> 00:48:39,200
situation. So we have that in place so

1047
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:40,720
we know how to do that.

1048
00:48:40,720 --> 00:48:41,200
>> Okay.

1049
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:42,720
>> One other thing I want to let you know

1050
00:48:42,720 --> 00:48:44,720
is about our additional funding sources.

1051
00:48:44,720 --> 00:48:47,760
Okay. I'll keep this real brief. We get

1052
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,000
money of course from the city of Kingman

1053
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,240
and thank you for the funds and always

1054
00:48:52,240 --> 00:48:54,319
remembering us because not too many

1055
00:48:54,319 --> 00:48:59,520
other people do that. We um get $15,000

1056
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:02,480
from the hospital and we're grateful for

1057
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:07,040
that. We get private donations and I

1058
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,040
can't divulge all the private donations

1059
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,040
because I haven't asked those people if

1060
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,839
that's a public thing or not. But we so

1061
00:49:13,839 --> 00:49:16,800
far this year we've got about $25,000 in

1062
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:19,839
public donations. We get money from our

1063
00:49:19,839 --> 00:49:23,680
programs. Um we sell punch cards and our

1064
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:26,960
programs are only $2 a class and if

1065
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,760
somebody absolutely cannot afford that,

1066
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,000
we take that into consideration and

1067
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,000
that's kind of a confidential thing. So

1068
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,960
we don't ever turn anybody away. And

1069
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:39,200
then we have like arts and crafts fairs.

1070
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:41,599
We've had a car show. We've had other

1071
00:49:41,599 --> 00:49:44,240
organizations that help us. They pay a

1072
00:49:44,240 --> 00:49:47,280
little rent and they pay um some toward

1073
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,520
utilities and things like that. So, we

1074
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:52,559
have um other resources and other

1075
00:49:52,559 --> 00:49:55,280
income. And I'm a grant writer and I've

1076
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,599
written a couple grants. So, last year

1077
00:49:57,599 --> 00:50:00,640
we got a brand new freezer down there.

1078
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:03,599
And uh you know, I want to I don't want

1079
00:50:03,599 --> 00:50:05,599
to say uh forget about the county

1080
00:50:05,599 --> 00:50:07,520
because the county really helps us out

1081
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:11,119
too. We're on county land. Our part is

1082
00:50:11,119 --> 00:50:13,920
kind of Katherine Hyere. I almost said

1083
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:16,400
the city. It's Katherine Hyenrich and

1084
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,960
the other part is the county and we try

1085
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,440
to work with them as best we can. They

1086
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,680
have the handicapped uh bathroom because

1087
00:50:23,680 --> 00:50:26,319
we don't have it. Uh it was very costly

1088
00:50:26,319 --> 00:50:27,839
for us to make the changes to

1089
00:50:27,839 --> 00:50:29,839
accommodate that. So we have a ramp in

1090
00:50:29,839 --> 00:50:32,640
there so people can that are ADA uh need

1091
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:34,720
to get there. So we've got that all

1092
00:50:34,720 --> 00:50:35,520
taken care of.

1093
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,200
>> There's no locks on it? No, there's no

1094
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,839
locks and we're we're working out just

1095
00:50:39,839 --> 00:50:41,440
fine. We've done that for years and

1096
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:43,359
we're going to continue doing that for

1097
00:50:43,359 --> 00:50:46,240
years. And um I want to let you know

1098
00:50:46,240 --> 00:50:48,160
that not of all of our donations are

1099
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:50,559
moneywise because the county helps us.

1100
00:50:50,559 --> 00:50:53,520
We got a new floor. Um we had uh

1101
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:55,839
volunteers come in to paint and to redo

1102
00:50:55,839 --> 00:50:59,119
the ceiling and anytime we really have a

1103
00:50:59,119 --> 00:51:00,800
problem and need something, the county

1104
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:03,119
is right there. So, we work very well

1105
00:51:03,119 --> 00:51:05,680
with them and they're very much uh

1106
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,240
working well with us. So, other than

1107
00:51:08,240 --> 00:51:10,160
that, I think that answers most of your

1108
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:11,359
questions. And

1109
00:51:11,359 --> 00:51:13,040
>> Councelor Savage had a comment next.

1110
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:14,640
Well, Jamie, are you

1111
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:16,160
>> okay, great?

1112
00:51:16,160 --> 00:51:19,440
>> Thank you all for being here. I I'm

1113
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,359
definitely don't want to think that I'm

1114
00:51:21,359 --> 00:51:22,960
a negative Nelly because I'm I'm

1115
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:24,960
definitely not. In fact, Moose Lodge, we

1116
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:26,880
did give you guys a bunch of money a few

1117
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:28,960
years ago for new flooring as well. So,

1118
00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:30,559
that's not what this is about. The

1119
00:51:30,559 --> 00:51:32,000
reason why

1120
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:35,200
this all started. First of all, um,

1121
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,520
executive director, what are your exact

1122
00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,319
duties?

1123
00:51:40,319 --> 00:51:41,280
>> Um,

1124
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:42,720
>> I'll get to my point here.

1125
00:51:42,720 --> 00:51:47,599
>> So, I guess I Sorry, I'm so nervous.

1126
00:51:47,599 --> 00:51:49,599
>> What do you do for work?

1127
00:51:49,599 --> 00:51:52,880
>> Um, [cough] so [clears throat] I

1128
00:51:52,880 --> 00:51:56,079
um like I do the board meetings.

1129
00:51:56,079 --> 00:51:59,119
Um, I'm so sorry. I'm so nervous. I'll

1130
00:51:59,119 --> 00:52:01,760
help y'all because she is kind of new.

1131
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:03,359
She's she's only been on

1132
00:52:03,359 --> 00:52:04,480
>> I've been working here for two years as

1133
00:52:04,480 --> 00:52:08,400
a center coordinator and then I got the director. So at right now I'm

1134
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,680
working on budgeting um the finances. I

1135
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:15,040
do director's report. Anything new? I do

1136
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,760
the board meetings now. Report to the

1137
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,880
board. I Yeah. I schedule groups. I

1138
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,280
schedule after hours parties, clubs,

1139
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:24,720
things like that.

1140
00:52:24,720 --> 00:52:26,079
>> So you're directing?

1141
00:52:26,079 --> 00:52:26,480
>> Yeah.

1142
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:27,200
>> Got it.

1143
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:28,640
>> Cool. Cool. So, you don't do any

1144
00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:30,319
custodial work, do you?

1145
00:52:30,319 --> 00:52:31,760
>> I mean, if I have to take out the trash

1146
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:32,000
or

1147
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:32,960
>> if you have to. Well,

1148
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:33,920
>> yeah.

1149
00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:36,240
>> So, you do it all basically if if they

1150
00:52:36,240 --> 00:52:37,680
needed to. Yeah.

1151
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:40,480
>> And and the relationship between the

1152
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,720
board and the executive director, how

1153
00:52:42,720 --> 00:52:44,559
cohesive is that? How does that work

1154
00:52:44,559 --> 00:52:45,680
exactly?

1155
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:48,000
>> I meet with Tara every Friday. She's the

1156
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:49,040
board president

1157
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:50,720
>> and we have a sit down meeting. Anything

1158
00:52:50,720 --> 00:52:52,960
immediate, she and I handle. Anything

1159
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:54,400
that can wait for the board meeting, I

1160
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,000
just add it to the board.

1161
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:56,400
>> Okay.

1162
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:57,040
>> And

1163
00:52:57,040 --> 00:53:00,400
>> all right. The reason why this all came

1164
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:02,400
about

1165
00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:06,559
how last year we approved the next five

1166
00:53:06,559 --> 00:53:08,800
years for you for you guys financially

1167
00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:10,960
and it kind of

1168
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:15,040
I wasn't real happy with it. Um

1169
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:17,760
and it was known um and then Ray ended

1170
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:19,200
up coming in about a month later and

1171
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,480
going over that. So I ended up going and

1172
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:24,800
meeting with him for an hour. How many

1173
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:26,319
of the board members knew that I even

1174
00:53:26,319 --> 00:53:28,640
met with him is a question I'd like to

1175
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:29,440
know.

1176
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:30,240
>> It's [clears throat] a good question

1177
00:53:30,240 --> 00:53:31,280
because I didn't know.

1178
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:34,400
>> Okay. I

1179
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:37,839
have done nonprofits a long time and I'm

1180
00:53:37,839 --> 00:53:40,880
very passionate about things. I offered

1181
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:43,359
help. When he came in here, I saw

1182
00:53:43,359 --> 00:53:44,880
passion in him and he said he wanted to

1183
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:46,640
be solvent as far as being separated

1184
00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:50,000
from being re reliant on the city money.

1185
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:53,200
So I said I will help you literally help

1186
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,119
you physically, mentally, whatever. I

1187
00:53:55,119 --> 00:53:56,640
have volunteers. I can do whatever it

1188
00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:59,040
takes. And

1189
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:00,559
the reason why I asked that question,

1190
00:54:00,559 --> 00:54:02,640
was it conveyed to the board?

1191
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:04,400
>> Okay.

1192
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,800
>> Any of the board didn't know.

1193
00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,920
>> Okay. Here here's the next thing is uh

1194
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:11,520
last September you guys were going to

1195
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:13,680
have a rib dinner. I had that whole

1196
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:16,720
thing co coordinated to be donated free,

1197
00:54:16,720 --> 00:54:19,359
no cost to you guys. And I never got a

1198
00:54:19,359 --> 00:54:22,079
call back on it or anything. None of you

1199
00:54:22,079 --> 00:54:23,599
knew about it.

1200
00:54:23,599 --> 00:54:26,079
>> No.

1201
00:54:26,079 --> 00:54:27,520
>> I didn't even know about it as a center

1202
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:28,319
coordinator. I didn't

1203
00:54:28,319 --> 00:54:29,359
>> I didn't know about that.

1204
00:54:29,359 --> 00:54:32,559
>> Okay. All right. Well, that's kind of

1205
00:54:32,559 --> 00:54:34,640
after trying to get a hold of Ray a few

1206
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:37,040
times, I just kind of gave up. And I

1207
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:40,079
know he was probably doing too much. I

1208
00:54:40,079 --> 00:54:41,520
don't know all the details, nor do I

1209
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:43,040
care. I'm just getting to the point that

1210
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:46,240
come June, I saw the ad for the

1211
00:54:46,240 --> 00:54:48,640
executive director. That put a lump in

1212
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:50,880
my stomach because I know I reached out.

1213
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,839
I know I could how offer help, but

1214
00:54:53,839 --> 00:54:58,160
nothing was ever done about it. Then

1215
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:00,800
just by chance, the email started coming

1216
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:04,079
in. Then this and that and it just

1217
00:55:04,079 --> 00:55:06,240
snowball and escalated. So that's why I

1218
00:55:06,240 --> 00:55:09,599
called this. I just wanted to I know you

1219
00:55:09,599 --> 00:55:11,440
guys do good things. don't think that I

1220
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:12,880
think differently. That's that's not

1221
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:15,760
even where I'm coming from.

1222
00:55:15,760 --> 00:55:18,160
>> I would like to see the city not have to

1223
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:20,000
pay that in the future.

1224
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:20,319
>> Yeah.

1225
00:55:20,319 --> 00:55:22,079
>> Um that's why I offered the help. So,

1226
00:55:22,079 --> 00:55:24,240
I'm still willing to do that if I can

1227
00:55:24,240 --> 00:55:27,280
meet with the board, meet with you. I I

1228
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,200
got some good ideas. I mean, there's two

1229
00:55:29,200 --> 00:55:30,480
things you could do right off the bat

1230
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:31,839
that could probably get you 100 grand a

1231
00:55:31,839 --> 00:55:33,920
year. That would get us free and clear

1232
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:35,200
and then we could use that to the bus

1233
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:36,880
routes and all that stuff. So, that's

1234
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:39,920
where I'm coming from on this. As far as

1235
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,640
the board, do you have four 15 members?

1236
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:44,240
>> I think we have uh maybe

1237
00:55:44,240 --> 00:55:44,960
>> 11 right now.

1238
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:47,839
>> 11. But your your

1239
00:55:47,839 --> 00:55:48,960
>> We can have up to that many.

1240
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:50,480
>> We can have up to 15. Oh, yeah.

1241
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:52,559
>> So, you always got an odd number.

1242
00:55:52,559 --> 00:55:54,960
>> And what's your quorum minimum?

1243
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:56,880
>> Uh

1244
00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:57,200
seven.

1245
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:58,559
>> I was going to say six, but maybe it's

1246
00:55:58,559 --> 00:56:00,480
seven.

1247
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:02,480
>> I

1248
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,000
>> Oh, yeah. Half plus one.

1249
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,079
>> Half plus one

1250
00:56:06,079 --> 00:56:08,799
>> be eight. which would be eight

1251
00:56:08,799 --> 00:56:10,160
>> or nine. Yeah.

1252
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:15,589
>> Yeah. So,

1253
00:56:15,599 --> 00:56:18,079
some of the emails that we got concerned

1254
00:56:18,079 --> 00:56:20,480
the board meeting in August that there

1255
00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:22,559
was two people removed

1256
00:56:22,559 --> 00:56:25,599
>> from a quorum of seven and I know one of

1257
00:56:25,599 --> 00:56:28,400
them very personally. Um, and she's a

1258
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,559
go-getter. She's she's dear to my heart.

1259
00:56:30,559 --> 00:56:32,559
She helps with chem cancer care. Y

1260
00:56:32,559 --> 00:56:35,599
>> and I I it kind of really hit me the

1261
00:56:35,599 --> 00:56:40,880
wrong right in the craw so to speak that happened to two board members and I

1262
00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:42,559
don't know why and I don't know if I'll

1263
00:56:42,559 --> 00:56:43,520
ever know why.

1264
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:44,079
>> Yep.

1265
00:56:44,079 --> 00:56:48,960
>> But as far as the continuation currently

1266
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:51,680
with the center, would you guys be open

1267
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:54,000
to having a city liaison be part of

1268
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:54,880
that?

1269
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,599
>> Sure would. Well, hands down. We don't

1270
00:56:57,599 --> 00:56:59,680
have anything to hide. We're we're all

1271
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,000
for it. And you know, I used to be the

1272
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:03,920
director of Catholic Social Services for

1273
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:06,480
10 years here. And my goal was always

1274
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:09,359
not to rely on United Way funds, so I

1275
00:57:09,359 --> 00:57:11,040
understand where you're coming from so

1276
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:13,599
we can free up money for other good

1277
00:57:13,599 --> 00:57:15,599
projects that that money could go

1278
00:57:15,599 --> 00:57:17,040
toward. Yeah.

1279
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,119
>> Well, then I can I can jump in here real

1280
00:57:19,119 --> 00:57:20,000
quick. Please do.

1281
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:21,599
>> Carl, do you want to weigh in this a

1282
00:57:21,599 --> 00:57:22,960
little bit? I need I mean Sean, if you

1283
00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:24,000
want to do this on your own, I think

1284
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:25,520
that's a great idea. I don't know if you

1285
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:26,000
could actually

1286
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:28,000
>> Well, I want to do it as a citizen to

1287
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:30,480
help you guys, not as a city. But I

1288
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:32,400
think having some representation from

1289
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:33,359
the city

1290
00:57:33,359 --> 00:57:35,839
>> just show support and all that stuff.

1291
00:57:35,839 --> 00:57:37,359
>> I know. And it's a great idea. I

1292
00:57:37,359 --> 00:57:40,480
understand. Um Carl, give us some input

1293
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:43,669
on that.

1294
00:57:43,679 --> 00:57:44,799
[laughter]

1295
00:57:44,799 --> 00:57:46,400
>> I'm going to be the negative guy because

1296
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:49,359
that's that's the attorney. uh we we

1297
00:57:49,359 --> 00:57:51,040
want to be careful about trying to

1298
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:54,319
impose city rules and regulations upon

1299
00:57:54,319 --> 00:57:56,079
this organization because we have no

1300
00:57:56,079 --> 00:57:59,200
authority or control. So, as a private

1301
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,920
citizen, sure, someone can do that. But

1302
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:05,040
as a a either a council leaison or a

1303
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:08,480
staff leaison, I'm not sure

1304
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:13,280
what actual role that's going to be and

1305
00:58:13,280 --> 00:58:15,680
how we would have to structure something

1306
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:17,520
in some sort of an agreement that

1307
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:20,160
becomes then we become more involved.

1308
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:22,799
Then become a little more responsible.

1309
00:58:22,799 --> 00:58:25,520
Then we have to look at you know what is

1310
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:27,359
our role? How does that affect even our

1311
00:58:27,359 --> 00:58:29,520
insurance coverage? Because when we

1312
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:32,160
backed off, that removes a lot of that

1313
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:34,240
liability that we have. So, we need to

1314
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:36,640
be a little careful about imposing too

1315
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:40,480
much of ourselves without knowing those

1316
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:42,000
risks and what we're going to do with

1317
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:42,319
it.

1318
00:58:42,319 --> 00:58:44,400
>> Can we look into that? Uh I'm not saying

1319
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,720
to impose anything. I I'm not looking

1320
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:49,440
for that at all. Just having eyes and

1321
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:51,680
ears and it always helps the more people

1322
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:53,599
that are passionate about things.

1323
00:58:53,599 --> 00:58:55,760
>> Sure. it it will do nothing but help

1324
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:58,000
that and that's really my ultimate goal.

1325
00:58:58,000 --> 00:59:00,319
So if you guys want to talk as a board,

1326
00:59:00,319 --> 00:59:02,079
I'd be more than happy to come meet with

1327
00:59:02,079 --> 00:59:05,119
you guys on a private level of course.

1328
00:59:05,119 --> 00:59:08,480
And so that option is still open. I I

1329
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:10,960
just eventually it to me it should have

1330
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:12,960
been set up as a temporary funding

1331
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:16,079
source, not a permanent funding source.

1332
00:59:16,079 --> 00:59:19,680
And I I think 20 years, 20 plus years is

1333
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:21,280
kind of a long time that we could have

1334
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:23,200
gotten rid of that and the city could

1335
00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:25,040
have done other other with it. But I'm

1336
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:27,040
willing to help you guys. So I wanted

1337
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:29,119
you just to know that. That's why I have

1338
00:59:29,119 --> 00:59:30,880
brought this on because I really had my

1339
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:32,720
heart sunk, my gut sunk,

1340
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:34,480
>> and I didn't like that feeling at all.

1341
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:36,240
So I just know I had to come out and say

1342
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:36,880
something.

1343
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:37,839
>> Yeah.

1344
00:59:37,839 --> 00:59:39,359
>> Well, I'm there Monday through Friday.

1345
00:59:39,359 --> 00:59:40,559
Just call me anytime.

1346
00:59:40,559 --> 00:59:43,440
>> I will find time to get there for you.

1347
00:59:43,440 --> 00:59:43,680
>> Okay.

1348
00:59:43,680 --> 00:59:45,599
>> All right. That's that's all I got. You

1349
00:59:45,599 --> 00:59:46,720
have lots of witnesses here.

1350
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:48,960
>> I I know. I know. I I back up what I

1351
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:49,280
say.

1352
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,119
>> I appreci I I I appreciate you doing

1353
00:59:51,119 --> 00:59:52,160
that. I think that, you know,

1354
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:53,200
personally, it's a great

1355
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:55,520
>> But I didn't tell Ry that last year. I

1356
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:57,440
had to sleep on it because I knew I was

1357
00:59:57,440 --> 00:59:58,799
going to be negative on the funding

1358
00:59:58,799 --> 01:00:02,319
going forward. Um but how could I help?

1359
01:00:02,319 --> 01:00:04,160
And that's what I woke up with is how

1360
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:05,839
could I help? And that's why I did that.

1361
01:00:05,839 --> 01:00:06,720
>> Thank you.

1362
01:00:06,720 --> 01:00:07,200
>> Very good.

1363
01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:08,480
>> All right. Thank you for being here

1364
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:10,400
>> and thank you for your time.

1365
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:12,366
>> Well, you're not done yet.

1366
01:00:12,366 --> 01:00:14,079
>> [laughter]

1367
01:00:14,079 --> 01:00:15,680
>> Sorry, you're still in the hot seat, but

1368
01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:16,400
that's all right.

1369
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:16,960
>> It's okay.

1370
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:18,160
>> We're We're friendly.

1371
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:18,480
>> Yeah,

1372
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:21,200
>> it's not super hot. Welcome, ladies. Um,

1373
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,359
thank you so much for providing us all

1374
01:00:23,359 --> 01:00:25,760
this additional information. Um, I just

1375
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:27,520
had a couple questions and it kind of

1376
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:30,720
was in line with what councelor Sy was

1377
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:34,160
uh going with um the process for getting

1378
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:36,640
on the board. Do you have a process for

1379
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:39,040
getting on your board of directors?

1380
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:39,680
>> Yes.

1381
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:41,200
So, they apply.

1382
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:42,480
Yeah, the resume.

1383
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:45,359
>> Okay. Okay. So, it's not prohibitive.

1384
01:00:45,359 --> 01:00:48,240
It's It's very easy to apply to be on

1385
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:49,760
the board. It's a vote of the board.

1386
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:52,240
>> Yep. We don't do background check.

1387
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:54,160
>> Don't do that. No fingerprints.

1388
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:56,480
>> Okay. Um, are your board meetings open

1389
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:58,559
to the public?

1390
01:00:58,559 --> 01:01:01,520
>> Well, we have a we have a process. So,

1391
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:04,079
if you wanted to come and look and sit

1392
01:01:04,079 --> 01:01:06,640
in, you let Kisha know so we can put it

1393
01:01:06,640 --> 01:01:09,599
on the agenda. And that's pretty much

1394
01:01:09,599 --> 01:01:12,880
how we do it. We are asking that people

1395
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:15,040
be upfront and honest because we don't

1396
01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:17,920
want somebody to come with one pretense

1397
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:21,920
and de develop or deliver another uh

1398
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:22,799
concern.

1399
01:01:22,799 --> 01:01:23,359
>> Sure.

1400
01:01:23,359 --> 01:01:24,559
>> So that's what

1401
01:01:24,559 --> 01:01:26,799
>> so so where I was going with this is

1402
01:01:26,799 --> 01:01:30,319
you're a nonprofit accepting city of

1403
01:01:30,319 --> 01:01:32,960
Kingman funding and other various

1404
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:35,920
contributors and stakeholders. If the a

1405
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:37,839
member of the public wanted to go, if I

1406
01:01:37,839 --> 01:01:40,319
wanted to go sit in on your meeting, I

1407
01:01:40,319 --> 01:01:42,000
would need to let you know that I was

1408
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:44,400
sitting into the into the meeting, I I

1409
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:47,280
just I I don't understand why the public

1410
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:48,799
couldn't attend your meeting. I can

1411
01:01:48,799 --> 01:01:51,040
understand that the public wouldn't be

1412
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:52,240
able to speak.

1413
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:53,040
>> Well, you know,

1414
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:54,960
>> but attending your meeting, I I would

1415
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:57,839
like to see if you're all inclusive and

1416
01:01:57,839 --> 01:01:59,760
you're and you're, you know, receiving

1417
01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:02,480
these funds from other entities,

1418
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:04,720
especially public funding. Um, I would

1419
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:07,359
like to see uh some opportunity to at

1420
01:02:07,359 --> 01:02:09,760
least sit in on a meeting. I I plan to

1421
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:11,440
come to a couple meetings. I'll just let

1422
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:12,799
you know. I didn't know what the process

1423
01:02:12,799 --> 01:02:15,040
was. I would just like to see how you

1424
01:02:15,040 --> 01:02:16,079
all operate.

1425
01:02:16,079 --> 01:02:18,720
>> Sure. You know, nonprofit organizations

1426
01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:21,760
in Arizona don't have to have um public

1427
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:23,839
meetings or people coming like that.

1428
01:02:23,839 --> 01:02:25,520
It's not a government. Correct. It's a

1429
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:27,520
nonprofit. So, it's up to the discretion

1430
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:29,920
of that nonprofit organization. And I

1431
01:02:29,920 --> 01:02:32,480
understand that. and we really haven't

1432
01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:35,119
had anybody shown any interest. So,

1433
01:02:35,119 --> 01:02:37,200
we're kind of in our baby steps with

1434
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:40,480
this. We're trying to listen to what our

1435
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:44,720
people want and um so we're just

1436
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:47,040
learning, but we do have a little policy

1437
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:49,280
put up in the foyer

1438
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:51,680
>> and I I intend to abide by that. I I

1439
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:53,520
just think that it would be fiscally

1440
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:56,000
responsible of me as a fiduciary of the

1441
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:58,480
city of Kingman funds to come and visit

1442
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:01,200
and just just see how you operate. So,

1443
01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:03,200
um you know, I I'll follow your rules

1444
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:05,440
and and I'll I'll let you know that that

1445
01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:07,119
I would like to come, but I just wanted

1446
01:03:07,119 --> 01:03:09,440
to make sure that it was um available.

1447
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:11,119
And then do your do your board members

1448
01:03:11,119 --> 01:03:13,760
have uh term limits or do you do they

1449
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:16,640
get to stay on the board in perpetuity

1450
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:17,359
or

1451
01:03:17,359 --> 01:03:22,640
>> we have uh uh well we have one uh two

1452
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:23,680
year

1453
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:25,200
>> two year and five year

1454
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:27,440
>> yeah twoyear and fiveyear okay

1455
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:28,400
>> okay okay

1456
01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:30,240
>> yeah I couldn't remember what that was I

1457
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:31,520
haven't looked at that for a while but

1458
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:32,799
you know one of the things we're in

1459
01:03:32,799 --> 01:03:34,480
process of doing is looking at our

1460
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:36,720
bylaws and reviewing them and then we

1461
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:38,799
have to turn those in any changes to the

1462
01:03:38,799 --> 01:03:40,559
corporation operation commission. So,

1463
01:03:40,559 --> 01:03:42,400
we're we're we do that about every two

1464
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:43,200
or three years.

1465
01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:45,200
>> Okay, great. Great. And then lastly, I

1466
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:47,039
just wondered um there is no membership

1467
01:03:47,039 --> 01:03:49,280
fee, right? It's open to the public

1468
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:51,440
unless they take advantage of your your

1469
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:53,280
programs and then they pay whatever the

1470
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:54,480
cost is.

1471
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:55,520
>> If they don't have it, they don't have

1472
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:56,240
to pay it.

1473
01:03:56,240 --> 01:03:58,640
>> Okay. Okay. All right. All right. Well,

1474
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:00,640
I appreciate uh you entertaining my

1475
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:02,319
questions and thank you so much. I will

1476
01:04:02,319 --> 01:04:05,200
come visit you. Um, so I, you know, I

1477
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:07,200
just, I just feel like you're a group I

1478
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:11,119
have not visited, so I I would like to, visit you. So, thank you.

1479
01:04:11,119 --> 01:04:12,400
>> Thank you so much, ladies. Okay,

1480
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:13,839
>> that's all I had. Mayor,

1481
01:04:13,839 --> 01:04:15,280
>> one of your associates would like to

1482
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:16,880
come in, I think. Are you on the board

1483
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:17,760
also, ma'am?

1484
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:19,920
>> Yes, by

1485
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:21,440
>> Well, then you're you're part of this

1486
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:22,960
group, too. So, please come forward and

1487
01:04:22,960 --> 01:04:25,440
please step into the mic, though.

1488
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:29,200
>> For me was um a resume.

1489
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:30,400
>> Ma'am,

1490
01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:32,000
>> can you please share your name for the

1491
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:36,000
record? Hudac Logan I talked earlier. Um

1492
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:39,520
but what they acquired from me um was a

1493
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:43,280
resume that I gave them and um and then

1494
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:47,039
I had a they had a meeting and they

1495
01:04:47,039 --> 01:04:50,160
voted me on. So my first meeting is the

1496
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:53,119
16th my first board meeting. But I'm one

1497
01:04:53,119 --> 01:04:53,920
of those board

1498
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:54,240
>> meeting.

1499
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:54,880
>> Huh.

1500
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:56,559
>> You did your resume then you sat in on a

1501
01:04:56,559 --> 01:04:56,960
meeting.

1502
01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:59,039
>> Yeah I sat in but that was just yeah

1503
01:04:59,039 --> 01:05:01,760
myself wanting to sit in. I'm very

1504
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:04,960
interested in becoming a board because

1505
01:05:04,960 --> 01:05:11,920
um I want to have some effect and I do

1506
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:13,039
>> do a lot of stuff for

1507
01:05:13,039 --> 01:05:15,839
>> I do believe that it should be open the

1508
01:05:15,839 --> 01:05:19,039
meetings that's where I'm coming from

1509
01:05:19,039 --> 01:05:22,240
and um I think it should be and everyone

1510
01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:24,480
should be able to come if they want they

1511
01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:26,799
may not be it may be pretty boring

1512
01:05:26,799 --> 01:05:30,079
sometimes but I wanted to get on it and

1513
01:05:30,079 --> 01:05:32,799
I know of two other new people who are

1514
01:05:32,799 --> 01:05:35,119
new are new to the board and that's what

1515
01:05:35,119 --> 01:05:36,880
they want to do too is they want to get

1516
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:39,359
involved and they want to move some

1517
01:05:39,359 --> 01:05:41,440
things. So just letting you know that's

1518
01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:44,240
how I became a board member and I do

1519
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:46,720
regularly attend there. So

1520
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:49,680
>> thank you.

1521
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:51,440
>> council. Yes, Jamie.

1522
01:05:51,440 --> 01:05:53,599
>> Um thank you. I just wanted to clarify,

1523
01:05:53,599 --> 01:05:56,559
you know, some of this how it started is

1524
01:05:56,559 --> 01:05:58,480
people were coming to council meetings

1525
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:00,880
to give us information about uh your

1526
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:03,280
center and maybe some changes. And so my

1527
01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:05,920
questions were really because

1528
01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:09,200
um when they ca when those people came,

1529
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:11,520
I didn't have an answer for them because

1530
01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:14,240
I don't have any authority over, you

1531
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:16,000
know, your organization. Of course,

1532
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:17,680
we're just we're making a contribution

1533
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:19,520
because we think what you do is really

1534
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:22,240
important for our community. Um, and so

1535
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:24,480
my questions were in line with your

1536
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:26,079
board and your med and your and whether

1537
01:06:26,079 --> 01:06:28,079
or not there was a complaint process

1538
01:06:28,079 --> 01:06:29,760
just because I need to be able to tell

1539
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:33,039
people, look, you know, that that is not

1540
01:06:33,039 --> 01:06:35,039
within my responsibility, but but you

1541
01:06:35,039 --> 01:06:37,200
can volunteer, you can be on the board

1542
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:39,680
and there's there is a a process for

1543
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:41,440
getting complaints to that board. I

1544
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:43,440
think that's really important and maybe

1545
01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:47,039
some having having an open meeting or or

1546
01:06:47,039 --> 01:06:50,240
something like that. um you you might be

1547
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:52,240
able to just squash some of those

1548
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:53,599
complaints just through that open

1549
01:06:53,599 --> 01:06:55,680
dialogue. But but again, that's not my

1550
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:56,400
responsibility.

1551
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:58,319
>> We also have volunteer meetings and

1552
01:06:58,319 --> 01:06:59,760
we've met some of the people that have

1553
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:01,039
made complaints.

1554
01:07:01,039 --> 01:07:03,280
>> Um and we're not very

1555
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:07,839
>> Yeah. And I'm so sorry to to hear that is happening at the center. I hope

1556
01:07:07,839 --> 01:07:10,480
that you don't lose volunteers over some

1557
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:12,480
of that ugliness because you do provide

1558
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:14,640
a very important service. So, thank you

1559
01:07:14,640 --> 01:07:16,160
again and just thanks for coming and

1560
01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:17,839
giving us that info.

1561
01:07:17,839 --> 01:07:20,000
You're welcome. [clears throat]

1562
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:26,710
>> Thank you, counselor. [applause]

1563
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:28,079
» So, actually, were there any other

1564
01:07:28,079 --> 01:07:29,680
questions? Councelor Dykins, did you

1565
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:30,559
have a

1566
01:07:30,559 --> 01:07:32,880
>> I [snorts] have a question for Tina.

1567
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:38,309
>> Okay.

1568
01:07:38,319 --> 01:07:40,240
» In one of the slides, it shows

1569
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:42,480
responsibilities of each party. And

1570
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:45,280
under the adult center, it says use the

1571
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:48,319
city funds solely to hire at least two

1572
01:07:48,319 --> 01:07:51,839
employees to manage adult center

1573
01:07:51,839 --> 01:07:53,520
activities.

1574
01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:57,119
Those two employees, are they full-time,

1575
01:07:57,119 --> 01:08:00,240
part-time? I don't see a a separation

1576
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:02,640
there, but there's definitely a big

1577
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:06,000
difference in the costs,

1578
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:08,160
>> meaning the expenditures on their part.

1579
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:09,920
Councilman Dikkins, I have the agreement

1580
01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:12,240
in front of me and I don't believe that

1581
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:15,119
it calls out full-time or part-time. I

1582
01:08:15,119 --> 01:08:17,120
think it just says two employees.

1583
01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:18,799
>> You're correct. It doesn't count call

1584
01:08:18,799 --> 01:08:20,400
out

1585
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:22,960
whether it's FTE or part-time.

1586
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:27,269
>> Okay.

1587
01:08:27,279 --> 01:08:28,880
» Thank you, [snorts] counselor. Okay. Any

1588
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:31,359
other comments or questions?

1589
01:08:31,359 --> 01:08:32,799
Once again, thanks all of you,

1590
01:08:32,799 --> 01:08:34,880
especially those who are here um

1591
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:36,319
representing the Katherine Hinrich

1592
01:08:36,319 --> 01:08:38,000
Center. And it was mentioned by

1593
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:40,000
councelor Saley and our vice mayor and I

1594
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:41,839
think all of us, we are thankful for

1595
01:08:41,839 --> 01:08:44,560
what you do for our our senior citizens

1596
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:46,400
whether they live in the city limits or

1597
01:08:46,400 --> 01:08:48,880
whether they live in the county. Um you

1598
01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:50,480
we're all part of this greater Kingman

1599
01:08:50,480 --> 01:08:52,480
area and so we appreciate what you do

1600
01:08:52,480 --> 01:08:56,159
for them because oftentimes

1601
01:08:56,159 --> 01:08:57,920
that if even if they come to the center

1602
01:08:57,920 --> 01:09:01,440
one day a week that socialization is

1603
01:09:01,440 --> 01:09:03,279
what they need to keep them going every

1604
01:09:03,279 --> 01:09:07,520
week. So thanks again. Okay, thank you.

1605
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:10,880
Um, continue on our agenda. Item five,

1606
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:12,239
department reports, golf course

1607
01:09:12,239 --> 01:09:16,070
marketing action plan,

1608
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:22,070
Mr. Mike Mirsman. Welcome.

1609
01:09:22,080 --> 01:09:23,520
Any of you from the center wanted to

1610
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:24,799
leave, please? You're more than welcome

1611
01:09:24,799 --> 01:09:38,950
to. We understand. It's all right.

1612
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:40,880
how you do it.

1613
01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:44,960
>> It's not how you do it. Share

1614
01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:47,920
and then you pick it.

1615
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:49,120
>> Otherwise, you're not sharing it

1616
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:50,799
through.

1617
01:09:50,799 --> 01:09:52,480
>> No, it's not touch screen. I was just

1618
01:09:52,480 --> 01:10:05,590
pointing to you.

1619
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:08,000
this thing.

1620
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:23,270
There we go.

1621
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:24,960
» Good evening, Mayor, Vice Mayor, and

1622
01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:27,840
Council. Uh I'm glad to see that the hot

1623
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:29,840
seat's not too hot tonight. So uh thank

1624
01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:32,800
you for that. But uh any rate um onto

1625
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:37,600
the uh uh marketing plan. Uh basically

1626
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:39,520
um obviously we all know we have a

1627
01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:41,920
beautiful golf course and uh very proud

1628
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:45,120
of it. Uh

1629
01:10:45,120 --> 01:10:47,120
if I can get the slides to advance I

1630
01:10:47,120 --> 01:11:00,950
guess.

1631
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:03,040
Usually these arrows is what I use but

1632
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:06,719
there. Okay, there we go. Um any rate uh

1633
01:11:06,719 --> 01:11:07,760
[clears throat]

1634
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:09,440
I I just want to touch base. The first

1635
01:11:09,440 --> 01:11:11,360
couple of slides basically are what uh

1636
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:15,760
the what the uh consultant kind of came

1637
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:18,000
up with basically and and the rest of

1638
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:19,520
them are kind of what we've interpreted

1639
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:22,400
what he said and um what we feel like

1640
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:26,239
going forward implementation would be um

1641
01:11:26,239 --> 01:11:27,760
and really I felt like there's a lot of

1642
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:29,280
good information in this in his

1643
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:32,800
presentation and well in his packet and

1644
01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:34,640
to leaf through it and try to get all

1645
01:11:34,640 --> 01:11:36,640
the good stuff out of it I think is very

1646
01:11:36,640 --> 01:11:39,199
important. Um, and I wanted to say to

1647
01:11:39,199 --> 01:11:41,120
the where he talked about the millions

1648
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:43,600
of dollars it's going to be. Um, and and

1649
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:45,360
what what I think about that it's to

1650
01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:47,760
make that a perfect place is what the

1651
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:49,679
millions of dollars would do. And I've

1652
01:11:49,679 --> 01:11:52,080
been at several golf courses and our

1653
01:11:52,080 --> 01:11:53,760
team that works and manages our golf

1654
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:54,880
course. I've been at several golf

1655
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:56,960
courses and none of them have had

1656
01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:59,360
everything perfect there, which would be

1657
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:00,719
great to have a perfect irrigation

1658
01:12:00,719 --> 01:12:02,239
system, all brand new. That would be

1659
01:12:02,239 --> 01:12:04,400
perfect, but and I've never had that in

1660
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:06,080
any job that I've been at. And so I mean

1661
01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:08,880
but that's what his presentation was

1662
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:10,800
about in my mind and what he was

1663
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:14,000
pointing out to us. Um and basically

1664
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:15,840
through this there's like really three

1665
01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:17,040
really important slides. There's a lot

1666
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:18,080
of slides and I'll kind of go through

1667
01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:19,520
them and won't talk very much about a

1668
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:21,600
lot of them but there's um the slide

1669
01:12:21,600 --> 01:12:24,640
eight is implementation. Um slide 22 is

1670
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:26,080
about cost savings. We think there's a

1671
01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:28,400
lot of cost savings we can do and I

1672
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:30,880
think that's important too. And then 30

1673
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:35,360
slide 33 is the recap of um all of it.

1674
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:37,280
So basically tournaments, leagues,

1675
01:12:37,280 --> 01:12:38,880
charitable groups, it's quality of life

1676
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:41,120
is what it's about. You know, these are

1677
01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:42,640
what all the people that use our

1678
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:45,600
facility. And uh one one thing that gets

1679
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:47,040
important I think and gets overlooked a

1680
01:12:47,040 --> 01:12:50,000
lot of times is for the um charitable

1681
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:52,480
groups the money they raise doesn't go

1682
01:12:52,480 --> 01:12:55,199
toward our bottom line but it's $500,000

1683
01:12:55,199 --> 01:12:57,440
that goes into the communities through

1684
01:12:57,440 --> 01:12:59,360
their what the charities raise for their

1685
01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:01,520
organizations and I think that's very

1686
01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:04,800
important too. Um you know seniors,

1687
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:06,880
veterans, educators, realators, business

1688
01:13:06,880 --> 01:13:10,000
people, families, um nonprofit groups,

1689
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:13,440
everybody uses the the golf course. Um

1690
01:13:13,440 --> 01:13:16,159
the marketing plan uh what this is what

1691
01:13:16,159 --> 01:13:18,640
kind of what JJ the consultant came up

1692
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:21,520
with uh this is what all was in there

1693
01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:24,080
and um the the marketing plan was

1694
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:26,560
mentioned in there many many times. So

1695
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:29,920
um and he he looked at a lot of other

1696
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:31,920
things which is important too and we've

1697
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:35,199
kind of gone through all those and um

1698
01:13:35,199 --> 01:13:37,280
the mar his marketing plan field visit

1699
01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:39,120
this was really good. He came in and he

1700
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:41,120
went to the golf course unannounced and

1701
01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:43,760
uh shopped there in the pro shop and

1702
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:45,760
golfed and dined and checked it all out

1703
01:13:45,760 --> 01:13:49,679
and uh um and it was really really good.

1704
01:13:49,679 --> 01:13:52,080
And this is more about his findings

1705
01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:55,520
really. Um our golf course is located

1706
01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:58,080
good and you know uh how many golfing

1707
01:13:58,080 --> 01:13:59,679
days we have a year which we all know we

1708
01:13:59,679 --> 01:14:00,800
have a lot of them because we don't get

1709
01:14:00,800 --> 01:14:03,840
much rain and so um and our price is

1710
01:14:03,840 --> 01:14:06,080
below value. It's our price is a great

1711
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:08,000
value for people and that's I think part

1712
01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:09,600
of the problem is that we've got to get

1713
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:11,760
that price back up still. So it's

1714
01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:13,760
something that for many years it kind of

1715
01:14:13,760 --> 01:14:17,199
didn't get raised because COVID came and

1716
01:14:17,199 --> 01:14:18,800
just all the different stuff came along

1717
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:20,480
the economy and so it just kind of got

1718
01:14:20,480 --> 01:14:21,600
overlooked and didn't go and I think

1719
01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:22,640
it's important that you look at that

1720
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:24,560
annually and make those adjustments

1721
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:27,920
annually. So um and the physical assets

1722
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:29,760
is what he talked about and we know that

1723
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:32,080
everything's not perfect but um we're

1724
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:33,440
obviously working with it and doing a

1725
01:14:33,440 --> 01:14:34,800
great job. You see the golf course right

1726
01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:37,679
now is in great shape and um our team

1727
01:14:37,679 --> 01:14:39,840
does a great job. Very proud of them.

1728
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:41,120
And this is like where the course

1729
01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:44,000
stands, you know, um discounting is a

1730
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:47,440
concern obviously because and uh golf

1731
01:14:47,440 --> 01:14:50,560
packages, season passes, private carts,

1732
01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:52,880
all those things are discounted off of a

1733
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:55,280
rate. And so it's important that we get

1734
01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:56,880
those rates all where they belong

1735
01:14:56,880 --> 01:14:59,840
really. Um and our golf course there's

1736
01:14:59,840 --> 01:15:01,840
already a value. So, it's important

1737
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:03,679
maybe not to discount, but maybe offer a

1738
01:15:03,679 --> 01:15:06,159
free bucket of balls with a round of

1739
01:15:06,159 --> 01:15:07,920
golf to get people there. And I what's

1740
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:11,360
really important is um that we look at

1741
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:15,600
getting them there um in our off times,

1742
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:17,360
in our slow times because we're our busy

1743
01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:18,960
times are very busy. We're a very busy

1744
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:21,520
golf course. And so, this is kind of

1745
01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:22,800
like the key items. It's one of the

1746
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:24,000
slides I was talking about that very

1747
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:26,080
important. Um we want to continue

1748
01:15:26,080 --> 01:15:28,239
gathering data. I think that's something

1749
01:15:28,239 --> 01:15:31,440
that you never get finished doing. Um

1750
01:15:31,440 --> 01:15:33,520
and so we want to come back to the

1751
01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:35,840
council in 30 to 60 days with rate

1752
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:40,880
recommendations. Uh and obviously our uh

1753
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:44,159
our rounds basically are 90% from the

1754
01:15:44,159 --> 01:15:45,600
data we've been gathering lately, which

1755
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:46,640
we've been doing a lot better. Our

1756
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:47,679
staff's been doing a lot better about

1757
01:15:47,679 --> 01:15:49,120
gathering data who's residents and who's

1758
01:15:49,120 --> 01:15:51,760
non-residents. And we're like 90%

1759
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:54,640
residents so far and 10% non-residents.

1760
01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:56,080
And we think that's going to get

1761
01:15:56,080 --> 01:15:57,440
throughout the year that's going to

1762
01:15:57,440 --> 01:15:59,040
change some. But like I said, we're not

1763
01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:01,360
finished gathering data ever. So, and

1764
01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:05,679
our POS POS system um barter or trade we

1765
01:16:05,679 --> 01:16:07,679
he recommended getting a new POS system,

1766
01:16:07,679 --> 01:16:09,440
but he saw the challenges we had with

1767
01:16:09,440 --> 01:16:12,000
the one we had and um we've got most of

1768
01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:13,120
those worked out and I think we're

1769
01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:16,480
getting good data. Um expand the T-

1770
01:16:16,480 --> 01:16:18,400
sheet out and we'll I'll talk more about

1771
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:21,440
this on another slide. and um social

1772
01:16:21,440 --> 01:16:22,800
media marketing. We want to look at

1773
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:25,840
doing that where we um target market

1774
01:16:25,840 --> 01:16:29,360
areas, Bullhead City, Laughlin, Havsu,

1775
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:31,440
maybe Boulder City, even places that

1776
01:16:31,440 --> 01:16:33,040
people going through here. We can target

1777
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:35,360
market those places to get some more try

1778
01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:37,120
to get more non-resident play, which is

1779
01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:40,640
important. Um creating an email

1780
01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:42,640
database. So far, we've got about 16,000

1781
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:44,080
people in there. So, we're working on

1782
01:16:44,080 --> 01:16:46,080
that. We're gathering that. And he

1783
01:16:46,080 --> 01:16:47,280
thought that was very important, and we

1784
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:49,280
think it is, too. looking at top tracer

1785
01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:50,880
technology for our driving range. We've

1786
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:52,400
gathered some data. We want to gather

1787
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:54,080
more and see if there's different ways

1788
01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:56,159
of getting it. Whether we pay somebody

1789
01:16:56,159 --> 01:17:01,199
to build a cover of our range te or he recommended a place where somebody

1790
01:17:01,199 --> 01:17:02,719
will build it for you. They'll pay for

1791
01:17:02,719 --> 01:17:04,800
it and then they get the money for the

1792
01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:07,600
first so many years and then we have to

1793
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:09,199
pay for that in the end which we get

1794
01:17:09,199 --> 01:17:10,400
some other money too which you could

1795
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:11,840
bank and pay for it. So there's

1796
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:13,280
different options of ways to look at it

1797
01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:15,280
that we could possibly do. So, we'll be

1798
01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:16,880
out obviously coming back to you with

1799
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:20,480
those recommendations as well. Um, and

1800
01:17:20,480 --> 01:17:22,560
attracting new golfers is con currently

1801
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:24,719
and ongoing. It's uh very important that

1802
01:17:24,719 --> 01:17:27,120
we continue to try to get more and more

1803
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:30,159
people there. Um, and these next couple

1804
01:17:30,159 --> 01:17:31,600
slides are going to be talking about

1805
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:32,800
kind of what I just talked about. And

1806
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:34,239
there's what we talked about possible

1807
01:17:34,239 --> 01:17:37,679
rate increase. Um, 5% annually, which I

1808
01:17:37,679 --> 01:17:38,880
should at least look at until we get

1809
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:42,080
caught up to where we were. Um, and like

1810
01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:43,360
I said, we'll be coming back to council

1811
01:17:43,360 --> 01:17:45,120
with a recommendation on that 30 to 60

1812
01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:47,360
days. Miscellaneous fees increase

1813
01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:49,920
driving range, uh, all those fees should

1814
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:51,513
be looked at and at least

1815
01:17:51,513 --> 01:17:55,120
[clears throat] yearly and come back and make some rate adjustments on those

1816
01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:57,520
things. Um, we'd like to implement a

1817
01:17:57,520 --> 01:17:59,360
tournament booking fee where if you're

1818
01:17:59,360 --> 01:18:02,000
going to have a tournament, you pay $250

1819
01:18:02,000 --> 01:18:04,640
and if you don't come up with your full

1820
01:18:04,640 --> 01:18:05,760
amount that you say you're going to have

1821
01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:08,719
in your tournament, we keep the $250. if

1822
01:18:08,719 --> 01:18:10,560
you do, that money goes toward your

1823
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:13,600
tournament. So, um, we think that's

1824
01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:15,199
another important thing to because we've

1825
01:18:15,199 --> 01:18:16,480
had some people book outings, say,

1826
01:18:16,480 --> 01:18:17,440
"We're going to have an outing," and

1827
01:18:17,440 --> 01:18:19,040
then they don't have as many people as

1828
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:20,239
they said they were going to have, and

1829
01:18:20,239 --> 01:18:21,520
then we're at the last minute trying to

1830
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:23,520
fill a t- sheet up. So, um, we think

1831
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:25,120
it's important to maybe do something

1832
01:18:25,120 --> 01:18:28,719
like that, too, obviously. Um, grill

1833
01:18:28,719 --> 01:18:30,159
food and beverage costs, evaluate

1834
01:18:30,159 --> 01:18:33,840
quarterly, and adjust those. Um, the POS

1835
01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:35,199
versus barter, this what I just talked

1836
01:18:35,199 --> 01:18:37,280
about. These are the numbers that if we

1837
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:40,640
what we would pay to do it. What what is good about the way we do it? We

1838
01:18:40,640 --> 01:18:43,520
barter. We trade we trade noon tea times

1839
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:45,840
which we don't have we don't have noon

1840
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:47,520
tea time. So they're bringing us people

1841
01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:50,719
to play and they're getting to play free

1842
01:18:50,719 --> 01:18:53,120
on them. But obviously they come in,

1843
01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:54,560
they spend money in the pro shop, they

1844
01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:56,640
spend money in the grill and and we

1845
01:18:56,640 --> 01:18:59,520
would be paying um 35,000 a year for

1846
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:02,400
that software plus 20% on each sale if

1847
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:05,440
on each uh sale if we had to pay for it.

1848
01:19:05,440 --> 01:19:07,280
So we still think it's a better way to

1849
01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:08,880
barter it because like I said, they're

1850
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:11,280
noon tea times which we don't have

1851
01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:12,560
people knocking the door down to come

1852
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:14,239
play our place at noon and that we're

1853
01:19:14,239 --> 01:19:15,679
trying to get people to play noon and

1854
01:19:15,679 --> 01:19:18,719
afternoon. So um our our prime tea times

1855
01:19:18,719 --> 01:19:21,840
are in the morning. So um we think this

1856
01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:23,280
is the way to go to stay with what we're

1857
01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:24,400
doing. We've got a lot of the things

1858
01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:25,760
worked out. We're gathering the right

1859
01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:28,080
data. Um which which was the

1860
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:31,120
consultant's concern obviously was that

1861
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:33,920
um prime tea times. This is another very

1862
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:36,960
important uh slide that the prime tea

1863
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:38,320
times are in the morning. We know that.

1864
01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:42,239
And so what we'd like to do is uh extend

1865
01:19:42,239 --> 01:19:44,560
our right now you have to for 14 days

1866
01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:46,000
before the day you want to golf you can

1867
01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:47,440
reserve a tea time. And what we want to

1868
01:19:47,440 --> 01:19:49,360
do to keep it fair to our current season

1869
01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:52,560
passholders is we want to make it so

1870
01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:54,960
that people can book 90 days out and pay

1871
01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:59,360
a $40 booking fee per forsome up to 14

1872
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:01,199
days and then there's no booking fee.

1873
01:20:01,199 --> 01:20:02,719
That way we're going to find out what's

1874
01:20:02,719 --> 01:20:04,640
prime time and are people willing to pay

1875
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:06,880
extra for the that's $10 a person in a

1876
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:10,080
forsome. So it's still reasonable. Um,

1877
01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:11,440
but we think that's a good thing to do.

1878
01:20:11,440 --> 01:20:13,600
And then if we implement this, then a

1879
01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:15,679
year from now, we would go to when all

1880
01:20:15,679 --> 01:20:17,199
of our seasoned passholders that we have

1881
01:20:17,199 --> 01:20:19,360
now their passes, they would already

1882
01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:20,560
know this if they're going to get a new

1883
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:22,239
one that in the future it's going to be

1884
01:20:22,239 --> 01:20:25,040
seven days out. So, you'd be able to pay

1885
01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:27,360
that $40 to get a tea time up to seven

1886
01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:30,080
days out and then then we'd open up the

1887
01:20:30,080 --> 01:20:32,239
T- sheet to everybody. So, um, that's

1888
01:20:32,239 --> 01:20:33,840
kind of what this is about and we think

1889
01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:35,679
it's a good plan and this is one of them

1890
01:20:35,679 --> 01:20:37,440
that the consultant recommended that we

1891
01:20:37,440 --> 01:20:39,360
look at and, uh, we think it's a pretty

1892
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:41,520
good way to do it to it's going to help

1893
01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:43,280
us know more and more when are our prime

1894
01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:45,120
times because that if people are willing

1895
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:46,880
to pay a little extra for it, then it's

1896
01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:49,360
a prime time. So, um, we we do think

1897
01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:51,280
it's important. So, this is a important

1898
01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:52,480
thing and we'll be coming back to the

1899
01:20:52,480 --> 01:20:54,320
council with this 30 to 60 days, we'll

1900
01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:55,760
be bringing you something to vote on all

1901
01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:57,520
these things that we want to where we

1902
01:20:57,520 --> 01:20:59,520
want to raise the rates and do things

1903
01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:02,719
like this. So um this is the industry

1904
01:21:02,719 --> 01:21:07,199
standard. Basically 50% 30 50% of the te

1905
01:21:07,199 --> 01:21:10,560
of our rounds come from the 30% of the

1906
01:21:10,560 --> 01:21:12,880
uh available tea times. That that's the

1907
01:21:12,880 --> 01:21:14,480
mornings. So we know that people don't

1908
01:21:14,480 --> 01:21:15,920
want to play in the mornings. We just we

1909
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:17,520
have to continue to try to find ways to

1910
01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:20,719
get people out in the mornings. I mean

1911
01:21:20,719 --> 01:21:22,719
afternoon and in the evenings when it's

1912
01:21:22,719 --> 01:21:24,239
hot people don't want to play golf. I

1913
01:21:24,239 --> 01:21:26,320
mean we've talked about having a if it's

1914
01:21:26,320 --> 01:21:28,480
a 100 degree out day then we have a

1915
01:21:28,480 --> 01:21:30,080
discounted rate for that. We've talked

1916
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:31,840
about things like that possibly. So,

1917
01:21:31,840 --> 01:21:33,440
there's all those things to continue to

1918
01:21:33,440 --> 01:21:36,719
look at. I think um um and like I said,

1919
01:21:36,719 --> 01:21:38,719
70% of our rounds are between 6 o'clock

1920
01:21:38,719 --> 01:21:41,679
and 11 o'clock in the morning. So, um

1921
01:21:41,679 --> 01:21:43,679
but this will what we're talking about

1922
01:21:43,679 --> 01:21:45,520
doing will will tell us for sure when

1923
01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:46,960
the prime times are. We're going to know

1924
01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:48,719
more and more when prime times are, what

1925
01:21:48,719 --> 01:21:50,960
days, what weekend days, what days of

1926
01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:54,159
time on the weekends. Um, and our

1927
01:21:54,159 --> 01:21:55,920
staff's doing a much better job now,

1928
01:21:55,920 --> 01:21:58,080
too, of having people get a tea time.

1929
01:21:58,080 --> 01:21:59,600
Instead of when somebody calls and says,

1930
01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:01,199
"Got to get a tea time." You don't say,

1931
01:22:01,199 --> 01:22:02,560
"Oh, it's not busy in the afternoon.

1932
01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:04,159
Just come on out." We don't want to tell

1933
01:22:04,159 --> 01:22:05,440
people just come on out. We want to get

1934
01:22:05,440 --> 01:22:07,199
a tea time. Then we know they're coming

1935
01:22:07,199 --> 01:22:09,199
and it's just better per more

1936
01:22:09,199 --> 01:22:10,639
professional to do that kind of stuff.

1937
01:22:10,639 --> 01:22:12,320
So, our staff's doing a great job with

1938
01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:16,639
that, too. Um, Whoops. Social media

1939
01:22:16,639 --> 01:22:18,080
marketing. I touched on this where we

1940
01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:20,400
want to target certain areas. Um, we

1941
01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:22,639
think that's important and uh obviously

1942
01:22:22,639 --> 01:22:24,880
and the consultant pointed this out that

1943
01:22:24,880 --> 01:22:28,960
a golfer in Laughlin can uh save $360 of

1944
01:22:28,960 --> 01:22:30,880
force to bring a people over here. The

1945
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:32,560
challenge with this is we would like to

1946
01:22:32,560 --> 01:22:33,920
work with the casinos and things like

1947
01:22:33,920 --> 01:22:35,520
that, but they want to keep the people

1948
01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:36,960
there. They don't want them going off to

1949
01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:38,239
play golf anywhere. They want them to

1950
01:22:38,239 --> 01:22:39,920
stay in the casino. So, it's hard to get

1951
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:41,440
them to work with you, but we're going

1952
01:22:41,440 --> 01:22:44,080
to continue to try to do that more and

1953
01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:48,560
uh work on that. So, um,

1954
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:50,320
marketing and advertising and we think

1955
01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:51,520
it's still important to get our

1956
01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:53,120
billboard up raised now with a wall

1957
01:22:53,120 --> 01:22:54,239
there where you can at least see a

1958
01:22:54,239 --> 01:22:56,239
billboard that says there's a golf

1959
01:22:56,239 --> 01:22:58,239
course on this side of the wall because

1960
01:22:58,239 --> 01:22:59,360
obviously you used to be able to see

1961
01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:00,639
that beautiful golf course driving down

1962
01:23:00,639 --> 01:23:02,800
the highway. Now, you see a wall. So, we

1963
01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:04,719
do think that's important uh to try to

1964
01:23:04,719 --> 01:23:06,560
get that done. And we want to do

1965
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:08,560
brochures and things like that. And we

1966
01:23:08,560 --> 01:23:09,847
talked about um advertisement

1967
01:23:09,847 --> 01:23:11,360
[clears throat] on the city's digital

1968
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:13,120
billboards. We think that's important

1969
01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:14,639
for the grill and everything for the

1970
01:23:14,639 --> 01:23:17,360
golf course. Um, and brochure placement

1971
01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:18,639
and all these different places. We think

1972
01:23:18,639 --> 01:23:20,560
that's important, too. So, we're going

1973
01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:23,679
to try to do more and more of that. Um,

1974
01:23:23,679 --> 01:23:25,120
creating a database. This what we talked

1975
01:23:25,120 --> 01:23:26,960
about. We have 16,000 so far and we're

1976
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:28,800
still working on this and like I said,

1977
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:30,800
doing a really good job with this. Are

1978
01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:32,320
really, our staff's doing a really good

1979
01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:34,719
job, I think, to come up with what we've

1980
01:23:34,719 --> 01:23:36,000
learned from this and trying to

1981
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:39,360
implement and make it better. Um,

1982
01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:41,520
tournaments. This was asked for uh I

1983
01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:43,040
think by the vice mayor which is a very

1984
01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:45,679
good question is a weekend comparable

1985
01:23:45,679 --> 01:23:48,159
with a tournament on it and both

1986
01:23:48,159 --> 01:23:50,320
weekends on the other side. And so with

1987
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:52,560
this slide basically on a tournament on

1988
01:23:52,560 --> 01:23:54,560
a tournament day the pro shop will do

1989
01:23:54,560 --> 01:23:58,000
$5,000 and the girl will do $3,900 on a

1990
01:23:58,000 --> 01:23:59,760
non-ournament weekend on either side of

1991
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:02,719
that tournament. It'll be $3,000 on the

1992
01:24:02,719 --> 01:24:05,120
$1,000. So those are the numbers. And so

1993
01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:07,360
tournaments are important we think. and

1994
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:08,560
the consultant thought that we should

1995
01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:10,239
have a high price for tournaments and we

1996
01:24:10,239 --> 01:24:11,440
kind of don't think that. We think if

1997
01:24:11,440 --> 01:24:13,360
you're bringing a full group in that we

1998
01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:15,600
think it's okay to um you're getting a

1999
01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:16,719
commitment that they're bringing them

2000
01:24:16,719 --> 01:24:18,960
in, especially if we do the uh fee that

2001
01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:20,639
we're going to charge to that if they're

2002
01:24:20,639 --> 01:24:22,639
going to register to have a tournament

2003
01:24:22,639 --> 01:24:25,040
then they pay that. So, but we think

2004
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:26,320
it's important and these are very

2005
01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:27,840
important to look at as how we're doing

2006
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:28,960
that. These are some of the tournaments

2007
01:24:28,960 --> 01:24:31,840
we have and obviously a lot of good ones

2008
01:24:31,840 --> 01:24:33,679
and a lot of money is raised with these

2009
01:24:33,679 --> 01:24:37,440
to go into the nonprofits. uh $500,000

2010
01:24:37,440 --> 01:24:38,960
which I mentioned earlier which is very

2011
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:41,520
important. Um top tracer technology this

2012
01:24:41,520 --> 01:24:43,360
is another one we talked about cover

2013
01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:46,400
over the driving range with um like they

2014
01:24:46,400 --> 01:24:49,040
have at uh several driving ranges then

2015
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:51,600
the uh

2016
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:54,400
top golf is where they have it and um a

2017
01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:55,600
lot of people like to go that do that

2018
01:24:55,600 --> 01:24:56,880
and it tells you everything really. It

2019
01:24:56,880 --> 01:24:58,560
tells you how far high you hit the ball

2020
01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:00,480
off your club head speed it tells you

2021
01:25:00,480 --> 01:25:02,239
everything. So there's ways we can

2022
01:25:02,239 --> 01:25:04,080
possibly do this too and we're looking

2023
01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:05,840
into that. We've reached out to some

2024
01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:07,280
other golf courses that have it and see

2025
01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:08,960
how works for them and we're finding

2026
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:10,960
some good information.

2027
01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:13,360
Um, attracting new golfers. This is what

2028
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:16,560
we do and um, new player orientation.

2029
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:17,840
It's important to just teach people

2030
01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:19,760
about golf and how to get a tea time and

2031
01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:21,679
where to put your clubs and where to

2032
01:25:21,679 --> 01:25:23,280
come into the pro shop. We've done some

2033
01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:25,520
really nice upgrades in the pro shop.

2034
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:27,440
Um, the event pad for weddings and

2035
01:25:27,440 --> 01:25:28,719
things like that. We've had weddings and

2036
01:25:28,719 --> 01:25:30,400
some hospital events and things like

2037
01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:32,480
that. This is another This is another

2038
01:25:32,480 --> 01:25:33,520
important area that we talked about

2039
01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:35,199
maintenance cost savings. We think

2040
01:25:35,199 --> 01:25:37,120
there's some movement here that we can

2041
01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:38,719
make that will really help us.

2042
01:25:38,719 --> 01:25:40,639
Autonomous mowing. That's a very

2043
01:25:40,639 --> 01:25:42,560
important thing. I think that uh we had

2044
01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:44,480
one come out there and I've got other

2045
01:25:44,480 --> 01:25:45,920
slides that we'll talk about this as we

2046
01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:48,639
go, but uh there's some ways to save

2047
01:25:48,639 --> 01:25:50,800
money there. Um back to desert, there's

2048
01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:53,360
some other get rid of some grass areas.

2049
01:25:53,360 --> 01:25:55,520
We've identified between 15 and 20 acres

2050
01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:57,520
where we could remove turf and save

2051
01:25:57,520 --> 01:26:00,480
water and just herbicides, pesticides,

2052
01:26:00,480 --> 01:26:02,880
fertilizer, and all that good stuff. Um,

2053
01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:04,560
irrigation system, there's challenges

2054
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:06,560
obviously with it. We have and the older

2055
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:08,400
holes are the most important ones. It's

2056
01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:10,159
a the interior holes that have been

2057
01:26:10,159 --> 01:26:12,320
there for 50 years of old pipe. That's

2058
01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:14,080
same challenges that we have in our

2059
01:26:14,080 --> 01:26:15,280
streets basically where we'll have

2060
01:26:15,280 --> 01:26:17,199
blowouts and you fix one and you have

2061
01:26:17,199 --> 01:26:18,719
another one right after that. And

2062
01:26:18,719 --> 01:26:21,040
there's a lot of new, like uh councelor

2063
01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:22,719
Staley pointed out, there's a lot of new

2064
01:26:22,719 --> 01:26:24,800
stuff in there. There's all the laterals

2065
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:27,600
are all new pipe and um the a lot of the

2066
01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:29,520
sprinklers are new, but the main lines

2067
01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:30,880
are still there, but we can take that

2068
01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:32,960
hole by hole and take our worst holes

2069
01:26:32,960 --> 01:26:34,800
first and try to fix those things. So,

2070
01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:36,960
we think we can do we can still make it

2071
01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:38,800
better [clears throat]

2072
01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:41,040
within our budget in a lot of cases and

2073
01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:42,960
um continue to bring something to

2074
01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:44,560
council about what we want to do to make

2075
01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:48,560
it even better. So, um, water storm

2076
01:26:48,560 --> 01:26:50,080
water conservation is another slide I

2077
01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:52,159
got in here that's important. Uh, um,

2078
01:26:52,159 --> 01:26:54,159
and educate the the public on cart

2079
01:26:54,159 --> 01:26:55,760
damage because there we have a lot of

2080
01:26:55,760 --> 01:26:58,239
carts and get a lot of cart damage. And

2081
01:26:58,239 --> 01:26:59,679
we're looking at replacing a lot of

2082
01:26:59,679 --> 01:27:01,040
bunkers over, you know, getting rid of

2083
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:02,800
the grass in the bunkers. It'll speed up

2084
01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:05,280
play and less maintenance, things like

2085
01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:08,320
that. So, um, we're looking at doing

2086
01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:10,080
keeping some the key ones that are in

2087
01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:11,600
play and getting rid of some that aren't

2088
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:13,199
so much in play. This is about the

2089
01:27:13,199 --> 01:27:15,120
autonomous mowing which I like I said is

2090
01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:17,040
very important. We had one there for a

2091
01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:19,920
month mowing number 11 fairway and

2092
01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:21,520
really and it's pretty amazing. The

2093
01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:23,040
whole time we had it there we didn't

2094
01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:26,320
replace one blade on it even. So um it's

2095
01:27:26,320 --> 01:27:27,840
just pretty impressive how these things

2096
01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:31,440
work and I think um there early on

2097
01:27:31,440 --> 01:27:32,880
people are like didn't think this is

2098
01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:35,360
these were real and I said go down to

2099
01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:36,719
Scottsdale and tell me about the cabs

2100
01:27:36,719 --> 01:27:38,320
that are driving around streets with no

2101
01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:40,000
people in them. So, it's the same thing.

2102
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:42,880
>> Mike, on the autonomous mowers, are you

2103
01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:45,120
recommending that you will reduce your

2104
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:47,920
staff in order to to get these?

2105
01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:50,080
>> Well, no. We once we get them in place,

2106
01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:53,360
then we'll start not replacing people as

2107
01:27:53,360 --> 01:27:54,719
they go. We're not going to lay people

2108
01:27:54,719 --> 01:27:56,639
off to get these, but as we get to and

2109
01:27:56,639 --> 01:27:58,320
we have money budgeted right now for a

2110
01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:00,320
large mower. We want to start with that

2111
01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:03,199
and see where it goes. But, and

2112
01:28:03,199 --> 01:28:05,199
my son is at a golf course that had more

2113
01:28:05,199 --> 01:28:06,400
of these. I'll bore you for a quick

2114
01:28:06,400 --> 01:28:07,840
second, but he's at a golf course had

2115
01:28:07,840 --> 01:28:09,600
more autonomous mowers than anybody in

2116
01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:12,800
the world at one facility. And uh he

2117
01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:15,120
didn't sell it on on replacing staff,

2118
01:28:15,120 --> 01:28:16,719
but we're going to try to do it where we

2119
01:28:16,719 --> 01:28:18,080
don't have as many people working. And

2120
01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:22,320
we think we can do that once we get the main cost of doing this is getting

2121
01:28:22,320 --> 01:28:24,239
the electric to charge them out in

2122
01:28:24,239 --> 01:28:25,360
certain places because you have to get

2123
01:28:25,360 --> 01:28:26,800
out on the golf course. But we have

2124
01:28:26,800 --> 01:28:29,120
another benefit here that a lot of golf

2125
01:28:29,120 --> 01:28:30,639
courses around the country, my where my

2126
01:28:30,639 --> 01:28:32,480
kids at, they don't have the sunshine

2127
01:28:32,480 --> 01:28:34,400
that we have. So we could do solar

2128
01:28:34,400 --> 01:28:36,960
charging stations too and and they do

2129
01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:39,280
have solar chargers for these too, but

2130
01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:41,199
we could do solar charging stations if

2131
01:28:41,199 --> 01:28:43,280
we had to to do some of that too. So

2132
01:28:43,280 --> 01:28:45,040
there are some cost benefits there we

2133
01:28:45,040 --> 01:28:47,920
think for us too. So um but we think

2134
01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:49,760
it's a it's obviously the way of the

2135
01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:52,000
future. Uh my son's been giving talks at

2136
01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:53,600
these at the golf conferences for many

2137
01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:55,760
years and the first ones I sat in people

2138
01:28:55,760 --> 01:28:57,360
were like h yeah that's not going to be

2139
01:28:57,360 --> 01:28:58,639
real. It's not going to happen. Well,

2140
01:28:58,639 --> 01:29:00,639
now you go there to the conference,

2141
01:29:00,639 --> 01:29:01,840
there's booths everywhere with

2142
01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:03,679
autonomous. They have autonomous range

2143
01:29:03,679 --> 01:29:04,880
pickers where it goes out and picks the

2144
01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:07,440
driving range balls, dumps them into the

2145
01:29:07,440 --> 01:29:09,120
ball washer and puts them back into the

2146
01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:10,400
cage where you can't get them out.

2147
01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:12,000
There's no people that working at your

2148
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:13,840
driving range in that. So, there's this

2149
01:29:13,840 --> 01:29:15,760
has really come a long ways and you

2150
01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:17,120
know, mo a lot of people aren't selling

2151
01:29:17,120 --> 01:29:18,800
it about replacing labor, but we think

2152
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:21,600
there are some definite labor savings in

2153
01:29:21,600 --> 01:29:25,600
time. I hope I answered your question.

2154
01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:28,080
I I guess I was just looking at how it

2155
01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:31,760
was going to save money investing in new

2156
01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:34,159
mowers. So, it won't until years down

2157
01:29:34,159 --> 01:29:35,600
the road when you get when you lose

2158
01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:36,080
those,

2159
01:29:36,080 --> 01:29:38,080
>> you know, it was it depends how much you

2160
01:29:38,080 --> 01:29:39,920
want to invest and how early, but

2161
01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:42,080
>> we have $100,000 budgeted right now for

2162
01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:43,600
a large mower that we're looking at

2163
01:29:43,600 --> 01:29:46,560
trying to get some autonomous mowers and

2164
01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:49,360
start in key areas. And um we really

2165
01:29:49,360 --> 01:29:51,440
think we can do a lot with this over

2166
01:29:51,440 --> 01:29:54,239
time. So it wouldn't be instant savings

2167
01:29:54,239 --> 01:29:55,840
but

2168
01:29:55,840 --> 01:29:57,600
in time it would be pretty substantial

2169
01:29:57,600 --> 01:30:02,560
savings we feel. So um anyway that's so

2170
01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:03,760
I don't know if I answered your question

2171
01:30:03,760 --> 01:30:05,280
good enough but that's kind of what it

2172
01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:09,040
is. So um and back to desert areas. This

2173
01:30:09,040 --> 01:30:10,480
is something that we've we've started on

2174
01:30:10,480 --> 01:30:12,800
obviously in my time here and we think

2175
01:30:12,800 --> 01:30:14,320
there's a lot of potential to do more.

2176
01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:15,600
We, like I said, we've identified

2177
01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:17,679
between 15 and 20 acres where we can get

2178
01:30:17,679 --> 01:30:20,320
rid of, you know, between the T and the

2179
01:30:20,320 --> 01:30:22,320
fairway doesn't have to all be grass.

2180
01:30:22,320 --> 01:30:24,480
Par three holes don't have to have

2181
01:30:24,480 --> 01:30:26,239
fairways. You know, you're supposed to

2182
01:30:26,239 --> 01:30:27,520
on a par three, you're supposed to be

2183
01:30:27,520 --> 01:30:29,040
able to hit the ball from the tea to the

2184
01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:30,560
green.

2185
01:30:30,560 --> 01:30:32,880
So, we'll have a pretty large landing

2186
01:30:32,880 --> 01:30:34,560
area in front of the green maybe and get

2187
01:30:34,560 --> 01:30:36,719
rid of all the grass between the tee and

2188
01:30:36,719 --> 01:30:39,920
that area. So, um, and we're not the

2189
01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:41,440
only golf course doing this type of

2190
01:30:41,440 --> 01:30:42,719
thing. There's a lot of them doing it.

2191
01:30:42,719 --> 01:30:44,719
And if you look at the waste management

2192
01:30:44,719 --> 01:30:46,159
course where the waste management's

2193
01:30:46,159 --> 01:30:47,920
played, they have a lot of desert areas

2194
01:30:47,920 --> 01:30:50,080
and desert areas aren't uh

2195
01:30:50,080 --> 01:30:51,520
maintenancefree. There's still some

2196
01:30:51,520 --> 01:30:52,960
maintenance involved in it, but you'd

2197
01:30:52,960 --> 01:30:54,480
save a lot of water, pesticides,

2198
01:30:54,480 --> 01:30:57,280
fertilizer, mowing, all that. So,

2199
01:30:57,280 --> 01:30:59,920
there's a lot of savings there. We think

2200
01:30:59,920 --> 01:31:02,320
um this explains it a little bit and how

2201
01:31:02,320 --> 01:31:04,480
much we would save sprinkler wise just

2202
01:31:04,480 --> 01:31:06,239
um starting on we're we're going to

2203
01:31:06,239 --> 01:31:07,920
start on this. We've already done some,

2204
01:31:07,920 --> 01:31:08,960
but we're going to do some more of it

2205
01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:11,280
this winter. like number 10 is a par

2206
01:31:11,280 --> 01:31:13,679
three, number 14 is a par three. Then

2207
01:31:13,679 --> 01:31:15,120
we're going to take the sod that we peel

2208
01:31:15,120 --> 01:31:17,199
up from that and put it in the bunker

2209
01:31:17,199 --> 01:31:18,960
areas that we're going to be getting rid

2210
01:31:18,960 --> 01:31:20,639
of the sand so there's less maintenance

2211
01:31:20,639 --> 01:31:23,360
there, less less manh hours working on

2212
01:31:23,360 --> 01:31:26,080
that, too. So, um, we'll be repurposing

2213
01:31:26,080 --> 01:31:29,600
a lot of that. Um,

2214
01:31:29,600 --> 01:31:31,280
turf out, these are some of the areas

2215
01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:33,280
that we've done already just to show

2216
01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:35,199
pictures of it. And irrigation is

2217
01:31:35,199 --> 01:31:36,560
another thing. I've had this on here

2218
01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:38,080
before. where we know when to water. The

2219
01:31:38,080 --> 01:31:40,159
turf canopy temperatures get to 138

2220
01:31:40,159 --> 01:31:41,760
degrees. Very hot here. We have cool

2221
01:31:41,760 --> 01:31:44,320
seasoned grass, so it's a challenge. Um,

2222
01:31:44,320 --> 01:31:46,159
we do use moisture meters to tell us

2223
01:31:46,159 --> 01:31:49,440
when to water. Uh, and there's four

2224
01:31:49,440 --> 01:31:50,880
separate irrigation systems, which I

2225
01:31:50,880 --> 01:31:52,400
talked about, which is a challenge, too.

2226
01:31:52,400 --> 01:31:54,800
And our our irrigation is all run off a

2227
01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:57,840
city water pressure, not pipes that keep

2228
01:31:57,840 --> 01:32:00,239
the consistent water pressure, which is

2229
01:32:00,239 --> 01:32:02,239
what

2230
01:32:02,239 --> 01:32:04,159
an expensive irrigation system would be

2231
01:32:04,159 --> 01:32:05,920
where we looped them all together and

2232
01:32:05,920 --> 01:32:07,679
we'd have one irrigation system, which

2233
01:32:07,679 --> 01:32:09,520
mean putting pipes under streets and

2234
01:32:09,520 --> 01:32:12,560
linking them all together. So, um, but

2235
01:32:12,560 --> 01:32:13,920
we obviously have been working with this

2236
01:32:13,920 --> 01:32:15,520
for a long time like it is and we can

2237
01:32:15,520 --> 01:32:18,159
continue to do this. Um, irrigation

2238
01:32:18,159 --> 01:32:19,679
runtime audits, these are important,

2239
01:32:19,679 --> 01:32:22,080
too. We do this every day to so we're

2240
01:32:22,080 --> 01:32:24,480
not using too much water obviously. And

2241
01:32:24,480 --> 01:32:26,239
um storm water retention is another one

2242
01:32:26,239 --> 01:32:28,560
where we all that rain that we had just

2243
01:32:28,560 --> 01:32:31,040
lately none of the water left the golf

2244
01:32:31,040 --> 01:32:33,040
course. It really all stayed in our

2245
01:32:33,040 --> 01:32:34,719
storm water retention areas. This is

2246
01:32:34,719 --> 01:32:36,560
where we've added them over the years.

2247
01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:38,880
And what it does good, it keeps gets the

2248
01:32:38,880 --> 01:32:41,440
course playable the day after it rains.

2249
01:32:41,440 --> 01:32:45,040
So um we we that's worked out really

2250
01:32:45,040 --> 01:32:46,400
well. And these are some areas where we

2251
01:32:46,400 --> 01:32:49,280
have it. Um, and this is just an action

2252
01:32:49,280 --> 01:32:51,120
item recap. So, all the stuff that I've

2253
01:32:51,120 --> 01:32:52,639
kind of talked about, and this is the

2254
01:32:52,639 --> 01:32:54,719
second to the last slide with all of

2255
01:32:54,719 --> 01:32:56,880
that, what we're going to do and when

2256
01:32:56,880 --> 01:32:58,320
we're going to come back to you with

2257
01:32:58,320 --> 01:33:02,320
what days and all that. So, um, with

2258
01:33:02,320 --> 01:33:07,030
that,

2259
01:33:07,040 --> 01:33:08,719
thank you. And, um, I'd be happy to

2260
01:33:08,719 --> 01:33:10,320
answer any questions or take any

2261
01:33:10,320 --> 01:33:14,239
suggestions. and um like I said, we we

2262
01:33:14,239 --> 01:33:16,320
worked hard on trying to go through his

2263
01:33:16,320 --> 01:33:19,600
presentation and all that he had and uh

2264
01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:21,360
bring this to you. So,

2265
01:33:21,360 --> 01:33:24,000
>> thanks Mike. Actually, you know, when

2266
01:33:24,000 --> 01:33:26,480
they started uh this Bill Street bypass

2267
01:33:26,480 --> 01:33:28,080
and they were adding that lane coming

2268
01:33:28,080 --> 01:33:29,360
back this way, it was such a

2269
01:33:29,360 --> 01:33:30,400
disappointment to hear they were going

2270
01:33:30,400 --> 01:33:32,400
to put a wall up for noise level. And I

2271
01:33:32,400 --> 01:33:33,520
understand for the citizens that live

2272
01:33:33,520 --> 01:33:36,239
along the golf course, but one of the

2273
01:33:36,239 --> 01:33:37,920
most amazing things when you came up

2274
01:33:37,920 --> 01:33:39,679
over the hill and you saw that beautiful

2275
01:33:39,679 --> 01:33:42,320
green course, you thought this is pretty

2276
01:33:42,320 --> 01:33:43,440
neat town.

2277
01:33:43,440 --> 01:33:45,360
>> I liked it. But anyway, you mentioned

2278
01:33:45,360 --> 01:33:48,239
it. Thanks for the report. Um

2279
01:33:48,239 --> 01:33:50,480
councilors, councelor Dykins, start with

2280
01:33:50,480 --> 01:33:52,960
you.

2281
01:33:52,960 --> 01:33:56,080
If I am a season passholder, what what

2282
01:33:56,080 --> 01:33:58,080
benefit is it for me to buy a season

2283
01:33:58,080 --> 01:34:01,520
passholder versus not?

2284
01:34:01,520 --> 01:34:03,840
>> Because you can play as much as you want

2285
01:34:03,840 --> 01:34:06,080
to anytime you want to as long as

2286
01:34:06,080 --> 01:34:08,000
there's a tea time available. If you're

2287
01:34:08,000 --> 01:34:09,920
not a season passholder, then you have

2288
01:34:09,920 --> 01:34:12,080
to pay every time you play. And

2289
01:34:12,080 --> 01:34:15,679
obviously the fees are a lot.

2290
01:34:15,679 --> 01:34:17,520
The problem with our season passes is

2291
01:34:17,520 --> 01:34:19,440
they're such a good deal and some people

2292
01:34:19,440 --> 01:34:21,199
play a heck of a lot where they get

2293
01:34:21,199 --> 01:34:23,679
their round of golf down to about $5 a

2294
01:34:23,679 --> 01:34:27,360
round. $10 a round instead of $65 a

2295
01:34:27,360 --> 01:34:28,880
round. So you see what I'm saying? They

2296
01:34:28,880 --> 01:34:30,080
can play as much as they want. Seven

2297
01:34:30,080 --> 01:34:32,960
days a week, two times a day. They can.

2298
01:34:32,960 --> 01:34:35,199
So, and but but what we're talking about

2299
01:34:35,199 --> 01:34:38,639
doing with um tea times, charging more

2300
01:34:38,639 --> 01:34:41,679
early, that's going to let us know and

2301
01:34:41,679 --> 01:34:44,239
it's going to let them know too about

2302
01:34:44,239 --> 01:34:46,400
how valuable the tea times are.

2303
01:34:46,400 --> 01:34:49,360
>> Well, that actually leads me into the

2304
01:34:49,360 --> 01:34:52,480
question. Um

2305
01:34:52,480 --> 01:34:54,159
so, if you're a season pass holder,

2306
01:34:54,159 --> 01:34:56,239
you're already getting a deal. Mhm.

2307
01:34:56,239 --> 01:35:00,639
>> So you're in the thing it says

2308
01:35:00,639 --> 01:35:05,120
to be fair to current season passholders

2309
01:35:05,120 --> 01:35:09,440
14 days to day of no booking fee.

2310
01:35:09,440 --> 01:35:12,960
My point is and I don't fully understand

2311
01:35:12,960 --> 01:35:16,560
that but the point is if you're a

2312
01:35:16,560 --> 01:35:18,080
seasoned passholder you're already

2313
01:35:18,080 --> 01:35:20,400
getting a deal. Why should we be giving

2314
01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:23,600
them another deal

2315
01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:27,280
with not having to pay for a booking

2316
01:35:27,280 --> 01:35:28,239
fee?

2317
01:35:28,239 --> 01:35:30,719
>> Well, the reason I say that for this is

2318
01:35:30,719 --> 01:35:32,480
for the first year because they've

2319
01:35:32,480 --> 01:35:34,560
already bought their season pass knowing

2320
01:35:34,560 --> 01:35:36,560
that they can book it whenever they want

2321
01:35:36,560 --> 01:35:39,679
and not have to.

2322
01:35:39,679 --> 01:35:41,360
So, they've already paid for that. All

2323
01:35:41,360 --> 01:35:43,520
of them that have them now have paid for

2324
01:35:43,520 --> 01:35:46,080
that. And once we implement this, then

2325
01:35:46,080 --> 01:35:48,000
they'll know that going forward it's

2326
01:35:48,000 --> 01:35:51,199
going to be a booking fee to get a prime tea time.

2327
01:35:51,199 --> 01:35:54,880
>> So when when is a season pass good for

2328
01:35:54,880 --> 01:35:56,960
>> from the day you purchase it? It's

2329
01:35:56,960 --> 01:36:00,480
>> from the day you p purchase it till

2330
01:36:00,480 --> 01:36:02,639
>> the that day the next year.

2331
01:36:02,639 --> 01:36:06,239
>> So it goes 365 days. So, somebody could

2332
01:36:06,239 --> 01:36:08,719
go out and buy a season pass to

2333
01:36:08,719 --> 01:36:09,600
tomorrow.

2334
01:36:09,600 --> 01:36:10,239
>> Mhm.

2335
01:36:10,239 --> 01:36:13,920
>> And they're not going to have to pay the

2336
01:36:13,920 --> 01:36:15,040
uh

2337
01:36:15,040 --> 01:36:18,159
>> the booking fees for a full year.

2338
01:36:18,159 --> 01:36:19,600
>> But then they won't have to pay it if

2339
01:36:19,600 --> 01:36:21,920
they wait till the 14 days. That's going

2340
01:36:21,920 --> 01:36:24,159
to be from 90 days to 14 days. That's

2341
01:36:24,159 --> 01:36:25,760
just for people that want to book early

2342
01:36:25,760 --> 01:36:27,280
to be sure they get a tea time on

2343
01:36:27,280 --> 01:36:29,199
Saturday morning. You see what I'm

2344
01:36:29,199 --> 01:36:31,280
saying? So, they'll still be able to Not

2345
01:36:31,280 --> 01:36:32,880
everybody's going to pay the $40. So

2346
01:36:32,880 --> 01:36:34,480
there's still going to be tea times

2347
01:36:34,480 --> 01:36:37,360
available 14 days which it is now.

2348
01:36:37,360 --> 01:36:40,320
>> So So when is that deal going to stop?

2349
01:36:40,320 --> 01:36:42,080
>> Well, we're going to go the next year we

2350
01:36:42,080 --> 01:36:44,880
would make it so it's goes to 7 days. So

2351
01:36:44,880 --> 01:36:46,960
we if they want to get a tea time and

2352
01:36:46,960 --> 01:36:48,239
for sure they get a tea time. They got

2353
01:36:48,239 --> 01:36:50,560
to pay that booking fee up to seven days

2354
01:36:50,560 --> 01:36:53,040
and then if the course isn't full from

2355
01:36:53,040 --> 01:36:55,440
people paying the $40 then they'll be

2356
01:36:55,440 --> 01:36:57,840
tea times available.

2357
01:36:57,840 --> 01:36:59,199
>> All right. I have more questions with

2358
01:36:59,199 --> 01:37:00,560
that but I'll just talk to you after the

2359
01:37:00,560 --> 01:37:08,790
meeting on that one. Um

2360
01:37:08,800 --> 01:37:11,360
you you you said in your presentation

2361
01:37:11,360 --> 01:37:16,080
that 6 to 11 is the prime time. Should

2362
01:37:16,080 --> 01:37:19,600
we be charging more between the hours of

2363
01:37:19,600 --> 01:37:23,520
6 to 11 than like you said 12 to

2364
01:37:23,520 --> 01:37:24,480
whenever?

2365
01:37:24,480 --> 01:37:26,080
>> Well, and that's kind of what this is

2366
01:37:26,080 --> 01:37:28,400
going to do. This implementing this fee

2367
01:37:28,400 --> 01:37:29,920
is going to do that. Okay.

2368
01:37:29,920 --> 01:37:31,840
>> It's going to tell us how valuable those

2369
01:37:31,840 --> 01:37:33,679
times really are

2370
01:37:33,679 --> 01:37:34,159
>> if people

2371
01:37:34,159 --> 01:37:35,679
>> Well, you already know how valuable they

2372
01:37:35,679 --> 01:37:36,000
are.

2373
01:37:36,000 --> 01:37:37,360
>> Well, not really because people aren't

2374
01:37:37,360 --> 01:37:38,960
having to pay extra to do it.

2375
01:37:38,960 --> 01:37:39,360
>> Okay.

2376
01:37:39,360 --> 01:37:41,199
>> So, [laughter] they just are that's our

2377
01:37:41,199 --> 01:37:44,159
busiest time. We're full and um so we

2378
01:37:44,159 --> 01:37:45,760
know that they're pretty valuable, but a

2379
01:37:45,760 --> 01:37:47,520
lot of them are seasoned passholders

2380
01:37:47,520 --> 01:37:50,480
that are using them, too. So,

2381
01:37:50,480 --> 01:37:53,440
>> then it it also says on when things are

2382
01:37:53,440 --> 01:37:55,520
going to be done. Some stuff will be

2383
01:37:55,520 --> 01:38:00,880
immediate, some uh 30 to 60 days.

2384
01:38:00,880 --> 01:38:02,480
When does the clock start?

2385
01:38:02,480 --> 01:38:04,239
>> Well, the for the rates and things like

2386
01:38:04,239 --> 01:38:05,280
that, we have to bring it back to

2387
01:38:05,280 --> 01:38:06,800
council and get council approval. So,

2388
01:38:06,800 --> 01:38:08,560
that's the stuff that's going to be 30

2389
01:38:08,560 --> 01:38:10,560
to 60 days. The stuff that's immediate

2390
01:38:10,560 --> 01:38:12,320
is stuff that we could start right now.

2391
01:38:12,320 --> 01:38:15,280
It doesn't have rates tied to it. So,

2392
01:38:15,280 --> 01:38:16,400
we're going to start We've already

2393
01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:17,199
started that.

2394
01:38:17,199 --> 01:38:18,639
>> Okay. Well, that that's really my

2395
01:38:18,639 --> 01:38:21,760
question. We've heard over a month that

2396
01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:23,280
there's things that you could start

2397
01:38:23,280 --> 01:38:24,000
immediately

2398
01:38:24,000 --> 01:38:24,800
>> and we've done that

2399
01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:26,880
>> and that that was my question. Have you

2400
01:38:26,880 --> 01:38:29,440
really started it or are you waiting for

2401
01:38:29,440 --> 01:38:32,320
council to vote on something to before

2402
01:38:32,320 --> 01:38:32,960
you start?

2403
01:38:32,960 --> 01:38:34,560
>> Well, the rates that that's what we're

2404
01:38:34,560 --> 01:38:35,360
going to wait on. We're going to bring

2405
01:38:35,360 --> 01:38:36,719
it back to you about the rates that we

2406
01:38:36,719 --> 01:38:38,480
want to implement and then you'll vote

2407
01:38:38,480 --> 01:38:40,159
on those. But we've already started on

2408
01:38:40,159 --> 01:38:42,800
the database. I mean 16,000 we've got

2409
01:38:42,800 --> 01:38:44,800
and we started on we got the POSOS

2410
01:38:44,800 --> 01:38:46,480
system pretty much dialed in where we're

2411
01:38:46,480 --> 01:38:48,880
gathering all the data and be able to

2412
01:38:48,880 --> 01:38:52,159
send emails out to those groups. Um so

2413
01:38:52,159 --> 01:38:53,679
we've started on a lot of it. Anything

2414
01:38:53,679 --> 01:38:55,440
that that says immediately we've started

2415
01:38:55,440 --> 01:38:56,080
on

2416
01:38:56,080 --> 01:38:58,639
>> and I may have been trying to dig

2417
01:38:58,639 --> 01:39:05,760
through stuff as you were talking the proposed in in the presentation

2418
01:39:05,760 --> 01:39:08,719
originally was to send out a newsletter

2419
01:39:08,719 --> 01:39:09,440
monthly.

2420
01:39:09,440 --> 01:39:11,600
>> Mhm. Has that started?

2421
01:39:11,600 --> 01:39:13,280
>> It hasn't started, but we're we're

2422
01:39:13,280 --> 01:39:15,199
working on it and going to start very

2423
01:39:15,199 --> 01:39:16,719
shortly to get it out. We already sent

2424
01:39:16,719 --> 01:39:18,800
it to our commission members. So, we're

2425
01:39:18,800 --> 01:39:20,880
going to basically change that one up

2426
01:39:20,880 --> 01:39:22,800
just a little bit and send it out to our

2427
01:39:22,800 --> 01:39:24,480
email database and then we're also going

2428
01:39:24,480 --> 01:39:26,159
to post it in the clubhouse.

2429
01:39:26,159 --> 01:39:27,920
>> Okay.

2430
01:39:27,920 --> 01:39:29,360
I'll talk to you after the meeting for

2431
01:39:29,360 --> 01:39:30,239
the rest.

2432
01:39:30,239 --> 01:39:34,390
>> Thank you, Councelor Dikkins.

2433
01:39:34,400 --> 01:39:35,679
» Vice Mayor,

2434
01:39:35,679 --> 01:39:41,270
>> thank you.

2435
01:39:41,280 --> 01:39:44,719
This report was full of information. I I

2436
01:39:44,719 --> 01:39:47,280
will give you that. Some of the things

2437
01:39:47,280 --> 01:39:50,800
that I really, really, really want is I

2438
01:39:50,800 --> 01:39:56,560
councelor Dykens uh alluded to it.

2439
01:39:56,560 --> 01:39:58,239
Council has given direction to the golf

2440
01:39:58,239 --> 01:40:01,119
course that we want to move the needle

2441
01:40:01,119 --> 01:40:05,199
and that is no that that is no secret.

2442
01:40:05,199 --> 01:40:09,280
So, I feel like um current and ongoing

2443
01:40:09,280 --> 01:40:11,760
in the presentation is a little

2444
01:40:11,760 --> 01:40:15,040
lackluster for me. I want to know like

2445
01:40:15,040 --> 01:40:16,880
my question was going to be have you

2446
01:40:16,880 --> 01:40:18,639
started the newsletter? When did it go

2447
01:40:18,639 --> 01:40:20,400
out? The things that are current, what

2448
01:40:20,400 --> 01:40:24,239
does current mean to you? Um I I love

2449
01:40:24,239 --> 01:40:27,360
the prime tea times uh information that

2450
01:40:27,360 --> 01:40:31,600
you're you're looking at that. But when you say that, you know, it's

2451
01:40:31,600 --> 01:40:34,960
current or ongoing or um we're we're

2452
01:40:34,960 --> 01:40:37,520
working on that, those aren't the things

2453
01:40:37,520 --> 01:40:39,360
as a council member that's going to move

2454
01:40:39,360 --> 01:40:43,199
the needle. I we've got to identify and

2455
01:40:43,199 --> 01:40:46,719
I think that's why I was so harsh on JJ

2456
01:40:46,719 --> 01:40:51,920
when he was here. Um I I I want

2457
01:40:51,920 --> 01:40:54,639
tangible, measurable

2458
01:40:54,639 --> 01:40:56,880
action items that are going to move the

2459
01:40:56,880 --> 01:40:59,040
needle. So, let's talk about social.

2460
01:40:59,040 --> 01:41:00,960
media. I think

2461
01:41:00,960 --> 01:41:04,080
we are missing the mark. It's it's it's

2462
01:41:04,080 --> 01:41:06,080
improved, but I think we're missing the

2463
01:41:06,080 --> 01:41:08,560
mark on social media. We've got to get

2464
01:41:08,560 --> 01:41:10,880
somebody that can get us some traction

2465
01:41:10,880 --> 01:41:14,480
on social media. I want to see we have

2466
01:41:14,480 --> 01:41:16,400
drones in the fire department. We have

2467
01:41:16,400 --> 01:41:18,320
drones in the police department. We have

2468
01:41:18,320 --> 01:41:20,239
I want to see flyovers of our golf

2469
01:41:20,239 --> 01:41:22,400
course. If people can't see our golf

2470
01:41:22,400 --> 01:41:25,679
course as they're driving through

2471
01:41:25,679 --> 01:41:28,480
I40, they should be able to see our golf

2472
01:41:28,480 --> 01:41:30,560
course and every aspect of our golf

2473
01:41:30,560 --> 01:41:34,000
course. Um, from the beautiful views of

2474
01:41:34,000 --> 01:41:37,119
the lava loop to the the holes that are

2475
01:41:37,119 --> 01:41:39,440
along the freeway and the and now that

2476
01:41:39,440 --> 01:41:41,600
we've got our golf course in in such

2477
01:41:41,600 --> 01:41:45,199
great condition, it's prime time that we

2478
01:41:45,199 --> 01:41:47,520
take it out to the masses and we start

2479
01:41:47,520 --> 01:41:50,800
showing it off. I want to see I want to

2480
01:41:50,800 --> 01:41:52,880
see Mike the pro go out and I want to

2481
01:41:52,880 --> 01:41:56,080
see him do a video. I want to see him

2482
01:41:56,080 --> 01:41:58,560
have play around with GoPro. I want to

2483
01:41:58,560 --> 01:42:00,320
These are the things that are going to

2484
01:42:00,320 --> 01:42:03,520
give us the the attention that we need

2485
01:42:03,520 --> 01:42:05,679
because we do have that wall up and now

2486
01:42:05,679 --> 01:42:07,280
people can't see our beautiful golf

2487
01:42:07,280 --> 01:42:09,679
course. So you have to imagine where are

2488
01:42:09,679 --> 01:42:11,199
people going to see our golf course?

2489
01:42:11,199 --> 01:42:13,520
They're going to see it in media.

2490
01:42:13,520 --> 01:42:15,840
They're going to see it on social media.

2491
01:42:15,840 --> 01:42:18,560
So, we have to have somebody on staff or

2492
01:42:18,560 --> 01:42:20,400
somebody um you know, maybe it's Sarah

2493
01:42:20,400 --> 01:42:23,360
that you borrow for, you know, a while

2494
01:42:23,360 --> 01:42:27,360
to do some some videos. Um so, I think

2495
01:42:27,360 --> 01:42:30,719
social media is where we can get our

2496
01:42:30,719 --> 01:42:33,360
biggest bang for our buck and that's

2497
01:42:33,360 --> 01:42:38,000
where we're going to start building our attraction. The other thing with the

2498
01:42:38,000 --> 01:42:40,639
database in the database you say it's

2499
01:42:40,639 --> 01:42:42,960
current and ongoing. What are you doing

2500
01:42:42,960 --> 01:42:45,520
with that database? Are you create I I

2501
01:42:45,520 --> 01:42:46,639
know you said you were creating a

2502
01:42:46,639 --> 01:42:49,280
newsletter, but what else are you doing

2503
01:42:49,280 --> 01:42:51,440
to leverage that database? All the

2504
01:42:51,440 --> 01:42:53,920
people that come from out of town, are

2505
01:42:53,920 --> 01:42:56,480
you capturing all their information? And

2506
01:42:56,480 --> 01:42:59,199
are you creating just a list of people

2507
01:42:59,199 --> 01:43:02,239
that you can push information to from uh

2508
01:43:02,239 --> 01:43:03,679
you know, people that are living in

2509
01:43:03,679 --> 01:43:06,000
Phoenix when it gets too hot down there,

2510
01:43:06,000 --> 01:43:07,679
people that you know are going to visit

2511
01:43:07,679 --> 01:43:14,400
Laughlin. So, I I really feel like this although it was very comprehensive,

2512
01:43:14,400 --> 01:43:18,239
I just I I want I I want tighter

2513
01:43:18,239 --> 01:43:20,159
timelines. There's so many things that

2514
01:43:20,159 --> 01:43:23,280
could be put into place um immediately.

2515
01:43:23,280 --> 01:43:25,199
And I guess that's more of what I was

2516
01:43:25,199 --> 01:43:27,440
looking for is an action item marketing

2517
01:43:27,440 --> 01:43:31,199
plan. Um so, you know, are we offering

2518
01:43:31,199 --> 01:43:33,440
practice rounds with every tournament uh

2519
01:43:33,440 --> 01:43:35,840
registrant before they go play? you

2520
01:43:35,840 --> 01:43:37,360
know, are we are we doing that to keep

2521
01:43:37,360 --> 01:43:38,800
them at the golf course, which then

2522
01:43:38,800 --> 01:43:41,760
feeds our our bar and grill? So, I mean,

2523
01:43:41,760 --> 01:43:44,159
those are some questions. Uh, are we

2524
01:43:44,159 --> 01:43:48,080
advertising to attract new golfers? Um,

2525
01:43:48,080 --> 01:43:50,880
I I can meet with you offline because I

2526
01:43:50,880 --> 01:43:55,199
have I have notes for days. I just I

2527
01:43:55,199 --> 01:43:57,920
feel like we're just we're we're missing

2528
01:43:57,920 --> 01:44:00,320
it and we're we're in an immediate

2529
01:44:00,320 --> 01:44:04,000
situation here where we are wanting to,

2530
01:44:04,000 --> 01:44:06,000
you know, boost those revenues. Have we

2531
01:44:06,000 --> 01:44:08,719
created packages with maybe the local um

2532
01:44:08,719 --> 01:44:11,840
hotel hotel motel to where if they come

2533
01:44:11,840 --> 01:44:14,000
play a round of golf, you know, the

2534
01:44:14,000 --> 01:44:16,719
hotel will, you know, do something with

2535
01:44:16,719 --> 01:44:18,800
the room rate. So, so those are kind of

2536
01:44:18,800 --> 01:44:20,800
the things that that I talked to JJ

2537
01:44:20,800 --> 01:44:23,760
about that I I would like to see. We

2538
01:44:23,760 --> 01:44:25,440
we've got to take an outofthe- box

2539
01:44:25,440 --> 01:44:28,560
approach. Flyers and and you know,

2540
01:44:28,560 --> 01:44:31,040
handouts and brochures are just not

2541
01:44:31,040 --> 01:44:32,560
going to do it. We've got to have more

2542
01:44:32,560 --> 01:44:34,960
of a presence um with video. Do we have

2543
01:44:34,960 --> 01:44:37,600
a YouTube channel? You know, when TKO

2544
01:44:37,600 --> 01:44:39,199
comes to town and he wants to play golf

2545
01:44:39,199 --> 01:44:40,880
on the golf course, why aren't we

2546
01:44:40,880 --> 01:44:43,360
videoing that? Why aren't we asking TK

2547
01:44:43,360 --> 01:44:45,840
to hashtag, you know, Kingman Golf

2548
01:44:45,840 --> 01:44:48,480
Course? Those are some things that are

2549
01:44:48,480 --> 01:44:51,040
going to bring people to our course. And

2550
01:44:51,040 --> 01:44:54,239
that's what I'm looking for. So, take

2551
01:44:54,239 --> 01:44:57,199
all those comments. I I'm happy to to

2552
01:44:57,199 --> 01:44:59,119
sit down with you and and go more into

2553
01:44:59,119 --> 01:45:00,960
it because I know council probably

2554
01:45:00,960 --> 01:45:03,119
doesn't want to hear, but I I like the

2555
01:45:03,119 --> 01:45:06,159
information. This is a a good start. Um

2556
01:45:06,159 --> 01:45:08,239
I just I want to see some more immediate

2557
01:45:08,239 --> 01:45:10,400
action and I I understand you have to

2558
01:45:10,400 --> 01:45:11,920
bring feeds back, but there's a lot of

2559
01:45:11,920 --> 01:45:13,520
things that you can implement and put

2560
01:45:13,520 --> 01:45:16,800
into practice immediately.

2561
01:45:16,800 --> 01:45:18,639
And I can touch base touch on a couple

2562
01:45:18,639 --> 01:45:20,320
of those just for now really. And I've

2563
01:45:20,320 --> 01:45:22,480
talked to Sarah about this already. And

2564
01:45:22,480 --> 01:45:25,280
so that's we've started on it already.

2565
01:45:25,280 --> 01:45:27,040
So, you know, she's going to do some

2566
01:45:27,040 --> 01:45:29,280
stuff and we've got drone coverage, but

2567
01:45:29,280 --> 01:45:30,800
we have to get the verbiage written for

2568
01:45:30,800 --> 01:45:32,400
to show what the drone sees.

2569
01:45:32,400 --> 01:45:32,960
>> That's fine.

2570
01:45:32,960 --> 01:45:34,800
>> So, we we've got a lot of that in place

2571
01:45:34,800 --> 01:45:36,880
already. We're working on it. And a lot

2572
01:45:36,880 --> 01:45:38,560
of some of you may not know that our

2573
01:45:38,560 --> 01:45:41,360
golf professional, Mike, was a sports

2574
01:45:41,360 --> 01:45:43,840
writer for a long time before he came

2575
01:45:43,840 --> 01:45:45,840
back in the golf business. So, we feel

2576
01:45:45,840 --> 01:45:47,440
like there's potential there to get him

2577
01:45:47,440 --> 01:45:49,440
to do some writing and things like that.

2578
01:45:49,440 --> 01:45:50,000
Then

2579
01:45:50,000 --> 01:45:53,199
>> get him to do video. Writing is static.

2580
01:45:53,199 --> 01:45:55,040
You've got to do video.

2581
01:45:55,040 --> 01:45:55,760
>> Yeah.

2582
01:45:55,760 --> 01:45:57,040
>> And we've done some of the videos

2583
01:45:57,040 --> 01:45:59,119
already and not of golf, not of him

2584
01:45:59,119 --> 01:46:01,600
golfing, but um we've got

2585
01:46:01,600 --> 01:46:04,239
>> we have done some videos of repairing

2586
01:46:04,239 --> 01:46:05,920
things and ball marks and things like

2587
01:46:05,920 --> 01:46:08,159
that. So, but we will try to do more of

2588
01:46:08,159 --> 01:46:10,000
that. If he can we can get him to hit

2589
01:46:10,000 --> 01:46:11,119
the ball straight. We'll get a picture

2590
01:46:11,119 --> 01:46:12,560
of that. Get a video of that and have

2591
01:46:12,560 --> 01:46:14,400
him do that. If he hits the ball

2592
01:46:14,400 --> 01:46:16,880
straight once, you can repeat that clip

2593
01:46:16,880 --> 01:46:19,040
over and over and over. He just has to

2594
01:46:19,040 --> 01:46:20,159
hit it once.

2595
01:46:20,159 --> 01:46:22,480
>> I I'm just I'm very passionate about the

2596
01:46:22,480 --> 01:46:24,480
golf course and I'm very passionate

2597
01:46:24,480 --> 01:46:25,520
about

2598
01:46:25,520 --> 01:46:28,800
>> that asset that the city has and we need

2599
01:46:28,800 --> 01:46:31,360
to leverage it in every way possible.

2600
01:46:31,360 --> 01:46:33,920
So, um I hope you don't take my comments

2601
01:46:33,920 --> 01:46:36,800
as being negative because I'm I I just

2602
01:46:36,800 --> 01:46:38,400
am very passionate and you guys are

2603
01:46:38,400 --> 01:46:40,080
doing a good job. The course is in great

2604
01:46:40,080 --> 01:46:44,000
condition. I I just I I want to see I

2605
01:46:44,000 --> 01:46:46,400
want to see some some less I'm we're

2606
01:46:46,400 --> 01:46:48,239
working on it and some more. Here's what

2607
01:46:48,239 --> 01:46:49,280
we've done.

2608
01:46:49,280 --> 01:46:50,080
>> That's what I want to see.

2609
01:46:50,080 --> 01:46:52,239
>> And and I think we have done quite a bit

2610
01:46:52,239 --> 01:46:53,840
but not everything. But the uh the

2611
01:46:53,840 --> 01:46:55,600
hotels a lot of times what they want to

2612
01:46:55,600 --> 01:46:57,920
do is for us to discount the golf to get

2613
01:46:57,920 --> 01:46:59,679
people into their hotels. So we have

2614
01:46:59,679 --> 01:47:00,880
talked to some of them and that's kind

2615
01:47:00,880 --> 01:47:03,600
of the general. [snorts] It's not them

2616
01:47:03,600 --> 01:47:04,880
discounting the rates, it's us

2617
01:47:04,880 --> 01:47:08,000
discounting the golf. So, and you know,

2618
01:47:08,000 --> 01:47:10,000
we can try that, but we think maybe we

2619
01:47:10,000 --> 01:47:10,480
say

2620
01:47:10,480 --> 01:47:12,400
>> I'm not asking anybody to discount

2621
01:47:12,400 --> 01:47:14,639
anything. I'm just asking you to put we

2622
01:47:14,639 --> 01:47:16,960
have a golf course that we know is worth

2623
01:47:16,960 --> 01:47:19,360
playing at the rate that people pay.

2624
01:47:19,360 --> 01:47:22,400
It's underval it's under underpriced and

2625
01:47:22,400 --> 01:47:25,760
we have hotels that are not metro

2626
01:47:25,760 --> 01:47:27,840
pricing. So, you just put a package

2627
01:47:27,840 --> 01:47:29,280
together and make it easy for someone to

2628
01:47:29,280 --> 01:47:31,199
book a whole weekend. I'm not asking for

2629
01:47:31,199 --> 01:47:33,040
you to discount anything. I'm just

2630
01:47:33,040 --> 01:47:35,280
asking you to work with the hotel yours

2631
01:47:35,280 --> 01:47:37,199
and put packages together that then we

2632
01:47:37,199 --> 01:47:38,960
can push out and say, "Hey, come to

2633
01:47:38,960 --> 01:47:40,960
Kingman. We've got this package already

2634
01:47:40,960 --> 01:47:42,880
for you." So that's that's it,

2635
01:47:42,880 --> 01:47:44,320
>> right?

2636
01:47:44,320 --> 01:47:45,840
>> All right. I think I've answered the

2637
01:47:45,840 --> 01:47:47,199
rest of the stuff that I had answers

2638
01:47:47,199 --> 01:47:47,520
for.

2639
01:47:47,520 --> 01:47:49,760
>> You did a great job. Thank you, sir.

2640
01:47:49,760 --> 01:47:50,880
>> Thank you, Vice Mayor.

2641
01:47:50,880 --> 01:47:52,719
>> One more comment if I could.

2642
01:47:52,719 --> 01:47:54,880
>> Yes. Go ahead. It it sounds like we're

2643
01:47:54,880 --> 01:47:57,440
micromanaging, but honestly, maybe we

2644
01:47:57,440 --> 01:48:00,239
should be for the fact that for years

2645
01:48:00,239 --> 01:48:03,840
we've been losing $500,000 a year and

2646
01:48:03,840 --> 01:48:06,639
it's time that that change. And so if it

2647
01:48:06,639 --> 01:48:09,280
takes micromanagement, maybe it's

2648
01:48:09,280 --> 01:48:12,560
necessary. But even with some of the

2649
01:48:12,560 --> 01:48:14,480
things that you say, well, we've we've

2650
01:48:14,480 --> 01:48:17,119
done this, we're we've started this,

2651
01:48:17,119 --> 01:48:20,320
that doesn't say what. So, a thought I

2652
01:48:20,320 --> 01:48:23,600
just had was instead of coming back

2653
01:48:23,600 --> 01:48:25,920
every two weeks reporting on what you've

2654
01:48:25,920 --> 01:48:28,320
done, maybe a simple email to the

2655
01:48:28,320 --> 01:48:30,480
council members saying, "Hey, we've

2656
01:48:30,480 --> 01:48:32,480
reached this roadblock and we've done

2657
01:48:32,480 --> 01:48:35,040
this and the newsletter just went out

2658
01:48:35,040 --> 01:48:38,480
yesterday." Um, you know, 30 days ago we

2659
01:48:38,480 --> 01:48:40,880
talked about a newsletter and one hasn't

2660
01:48:40,880 --> 01:48:43,360
been made. I used to make newsletters,

2661
01:48:43,360 --> 01:48:44,560
so I know,

2662
01:48:44,560 --> 01:48:45,280
>> yeah,

2663
01:48:45,280 --> 01:48:48,560
>> it's possible. what's when's the

2664
01:48:48,560 --> 01:48:51,119
deadline? You know, when is that pro

2665
01:48:51,119 --> 01:48:53,119
going to write it? You know, various

2666
01:48:53,119 --> 01:48:55,360
things like that. If you at least report

2667
01:48:55,360 --> 01:48:57,920
it to us,

2668
01:48:57,920 --> 01:49:00,639
you know, in an email,

2669
01:49:00,639 --> 01:49:03,040
I think you might see a few of us a

2670
01:49:03,040 --> 01:49:05,520
little more satisfied with. Okay. Yeah,

2671
01:49:05,520 --> 01:49:08,080
we are seeing progress.

2672
01:49:08,080 --> 01:49:09,360
>> Well, he's going to write that tonight

2673
01:49:09,360 --> 01:49:12,239
when he gets home and uh we're going to

2674
01:49:12,239 --> 01:49:13,920
email it out. We'll email it to all of

2675
01:49:13,920 --> 01:49:17,440
you, too. So, uh, anyway, we're we are

2676
01:49:17,440 --> 01:49:19,040
we've been working on and like I said,

2677
01:49:19,040 --> 01:49:20,400
we already do it for our commission

2678
01:49:20,400 --> 01:49:22,159
members. So, it's not like it's

2679
01:49:22,159 --> 01:49:23,679
rewriting the whole thing. It's just

2680
01:49:23,679 --> 01:49:25,440
being one that's more tailored to the

2681
01:49:25,440 --> 01:49:27,360
golfers instead of just the commission

2682
01:49:27,360 --> 01:49:29,280
members. So, we do it for the commission

2683
01:49:29,280 --> 01:49:32,639
members and uh so I think it's very

2684
01:49:32,639 --> 01:49:35,760
doable and like I said, we're we are

2685
01:49:35,760 --> 01:49:38,880
working on it. So,

2686
01:49:38,880 --> 01:49:40,639
>> thank you councelor councelor actually

2687
01:49:40,639 --> 01:49:42,320
councelor I think councelor si has been

2688
01:49:42,320 --> 01:49:44,000
waiting. Did you want to go first Jamie?

2689
01:49:44,000 --> 01:49:44,800
Is it okay?

2690
01:49:44,800 --> 01:49:46,080
>> Yeah. Okay.

2691
01:49:46,080 --> 01:49:46,639
>> Thank you.

2692
01:49:46,639 --> 01:49:47,280
>> No, you're welcome.

2693
01:49:47,280 --> 01:49:49,360
>> Uh I made notes so I wouldn't forget

2694
01:49:49,360 --> 01:49:52,639
some of the things. Okay. So

2695
01:49:52,639 --> 01:49:56,159
I I'm a little confused by this

2696
01:49:56,159 --> 01:49:59,040
presentation and JJ's presentation

2697
01:49:59,040 --> 01:50:01,119
because what we asked for was a

2698
01:50:01,119 --> 01:50:04,480
marketing plan. Exactly for the reasons

2699
01:50:04,480 --> 01:50:07,440
uh what the vice mayor explained. Uh we

2700
01:50:07,440 --> 01:50:10,320
need a we need a modernized marketing

2701
01:50:10,320 --> 01:50:13,360
plan for the golf course. That isn't all

2702
01:50:13,360 --> 01:50:15,679
these other things. That is literally

2703
01:50:15,679 --> 01:50:16,800
what are you going to be putting on

2704
01:50:16,800 --> 01:50:19,199
social media.

2705
01:50:19,199 --> 01:50:21,440
Almost no one knows about the grill

2706
01:50:21,440 --> 01:50:24,239
except the people that are golfers. They

2707
01:50:24,239 --> 01:50:26,880
there was an article that hit social

2708
01:50:26,880 --> 01:50:28,880
media and the majority of the comments

2709
01:50:28,880 --> 01:50:31,360
were I didn't even know there was a bar

2710
01:50:31,360 --> 01:50:33,600
and restaurant there. They didn't know

2711
01:50:33,600 --> 01:50:36,719
it existed. That's a problem and that's

2712
01:50:36,719 --> 01:50:40,000
why your grill isn't turning a profit.

2713
01:50:40,000 --> 01:50:42,480
So, what we asked for was a marketing

2714
01:50:42,480 --> 01:50:44,560
plan to address those kind of things. I

2715
01:50:44,560 --> 01:50:46,159
don't think the majority of the town

2716
01:50:46,159 --> 01:50:47,920
knows that you can have a wedding or an

2717
01:50:47,920 --> 01:50:50,080
event at the golf course. They they

2718
01:50:50,080 --> 01:50:52,159
really don't know what's there. And and

2719
01:50:52,159 --> 01:50:54,719
that's part of my problem with spending

2720
01:50:54,719 --> 01:50:58,480
city funds on the golf course is because

2721
01:50:58,480 --> 01:51:01,199
it is a very exclusive

2722
01:51:01,199 --> 01:51:04,320
park. It's not for everybody.

2723
01:51:04,320 --> 01:51:06,560
If you're not currently using it, you

2724
01:51:06,560 --> 01:51:07,679
don't know there's a grill. You don't

2725
01:51:07,679 --> 01:51:09,040
know you can have a wedding there. And

2726
01:51:09,040 --> 01:51:10,960
it's it's really just for those people.

2727
01:51:10,960 --> 01:51:13,679
And that's why I supported a marketing

2728
01:51:13,679 --> 01:51:16,159
plan because we want to get more people

2729
01:51:16,159 --> 01:51:18,080
using it and we want it to make more

2730
01:51:18,080 --> 01:51:20,159
money. I think we've been so clear that

2731
01:51:20,159 --> 01:51:22,560
the golf course needs to make more money

2732
01:51:22,560 --> 01:51:25,600
and lower its its expenses, those two

2733
01:51:25,600 --> 01:51:28,080
things. And so part of my confusion is

2734
01:51:28,080 --> 01:51:31,440
that this is a lot of we want more money

2735
01:51:31,440 --> 01:51:34,000
for the golf course to invest in it. And

2736
01:51:34,000 --> 01:51:36,400
I don't think you have a majority here

2737
01:51:36,400 --> 01:51:39,119
that's willing to spend money to cover

2738
01:51:39,119 --> 01:51:42,080
the the TE's uh or sorry the driving

2739
01:51:42,080 --> 01:51:45,760
range. I I just I don't think that we

2740
01:51:45,760 --> 01:51:47,280
support I don't I'm not going to speak

2741
01:51:47,280 --> 01:51:49,040
for everybody. I don't support raising

2742
01:51:49,040 --> 01:51:51,920
up the billboard. The consultant that

2743
01:51:51,920 --> 01:51:54,080
you brought in here said the billboards

2744
01:51:54,080 --> 01:51:56,000
are a waste of money. Why? So, why would

2745
01:51:56,000 --> 01:51:58,719
we do that? And I was hoping that your

2746
01:51:58,719 --> 01:52:00,800
report tonight would specifically say,

2747
01:52:00,800 --> 01:52:03,199
"We're going to make these changes and

2748
01:52:03,199 --> 01:52:04,880
we believe that will increase the

2749
01:52:04,880 --> 01:52:07,599
revenue by this amount or we're going to

2750
01:52:07,599 --> 01:52:09,520
make this change and it's going to

2751
01:52:09,520 --> 01:52:11,679
decrease our annual expenses by this

2752
01:52:11,679 --> 01:52:14,719
amount." And this is more um it's just

2753
01:52:14,719 --> 01:52:18,159
very vague. So, what I really want to

2754
01:52:18,159 --> 01:52:20,080
know is how are these changes going to

2755
01:52:20,080 --> 01:52:22,400
impact your budget so that we can look

2756
01:52:22,400 --> 01:52:24,239
at reducing how much comes out of the

2757
01:52:24,239 --> 01:52:26,159
general fund next year and in future

2758
01:52:26,159 --> 01:52:29,280
years to get the golf course to be less

2759
01:52:29,280 --> 01:52:31,360
of a drain on that general fund. I think

2760
01:52:31,360 --> 01:52:33,440
the people who use it should be the ones

2761
01:52:33,440 --> 01:52:35,599
that are paying for the majority of it

2762
01:52:35,599 --> 01:52:37,840
through whether that's through the fees

2763
01:52:37,840 --> 01:52:40,320
or getting more weddings in there or

2764
01:52:40,320 --> 01:52:42,159
some kind of advertising, those kind of

2765
01:52:42,159 --> 01:52:45,599
things. So that that is really what we

2766
01:52:45,599 --> 01:52:47,599
need to be seeing is just down to the

2767
01:52:47,599 --> 01:52:49,520
nitty-gritty. It's either going to make

2768
01:52:49,520 --> 01:52:51,360
more money or it's going to help save

2769
01:52:51,360 --> 01:52:52,880
money. That's why I was asking about the

2770
01:52:52,880 --> 01:52:56,000
mowers. If you want to invest in mowers,

2771
01:52:56,000 --> 01:52:58,239
then it should be because you're going

2772
01:52:58,239 --> 01:53:00,159
to get rid of some of your staff and

2773
01:53:00,159 --> 01:53:02,560
it's going to save money immediately.

2774
01:53:02,560 --> 01:53:04,800
Not not in 10 years when that guy

2775
01:53:04,800 --> 01:53:07,920
retires. That that isn't worthwhile in

2776
01:53:07,920 --> 01:53:12,960
my opinion. And then um

2777
01:53:12,960 --> 01:53:14,480
that's it. I think those are all my

2778
01:53:14,480 --> 01:53:17,440
comments. I I I just want to talk about

2779
01:53:17,440 --> 01:53:19,920
how we're going to get you to a place

2780
01:53:19,920 --> 01:53:22,400
where you're using less money, less city

2781
01:53:22,400 --> 01:53:23,679
funds.

2782
01:53:23,679 --> 01:53:25,599
>> And if I could just touch on the

2783
01:53:25,599 --> 01:53:30,080
$500,000 deficit, that $500,000 deficit,

2784
01:53:30,080 --> 01:53:32,639
it was $300,000 in the past. And the

2785
01:53:32,639 --> 01:53:34,400
reason it's 500,000 because we have

2786
01:53:34,400 --> 01:53:36,400
invested money into the golf course. So

2787
01:53:36,400 --> 01:53:39,199
it it it is and you know um we need to

2788
01:53:39,199 --> 01:53:41,360
slow down maybe investing in capital

2789
01:53:41,360 --> 01:53:43,280
stuff there too maybe. I don't know but

2790
01:53:43,280 --> 01:53:45,440
and there's ways that we can do the

2791
01:53:45,440 --> 01:53:48,960
range and the um like Top Golf has and

2792
01:53:48,960 --> 01:53:50,480
things like that with where it's paid

2793
01:53:50,480 --> 01:53:52,159
for by somebody else and we share in the

2794
01:53:52,159 --> 01:53:54,880
revenue in that and that till it gets to

2795
01:53:54,880 --> 01:53:55,199
the

2796
01:53:55,199 --> 01:53:57,199
>> right but at the end they want

2797
01:53:57,199 --> 01:53:59,760
>> they're going to pay the money that

2798
01:53:59,760 --> 01:54:00,159
we've

2799
01:54:00,159 --> 01:54:01,040
>> it will cost us

2800
01:54:01,040 --> 01:54:02,320
>> the money that we've made off of it

2801
01:54:02,320 --> 01:54:04,480
would could go into an account where we

2802
01:54:04,480 --> 01:54:10,000
save it to pay that. So, I mean, and our range revenue has increased just

2803
01:54:10,000 --> 01:54:11,599
with the lights.

2804
01:54:11,599 --> 01:54:13,040
>> There's people out there almost every

2805
01:54:13,040 --> 01:54:15,360
night hitting golf balls in the dark and

2806
01:54:15,360 --> 01:54:17,679
with the lights and stuff. So, I mean,

2807
01:54:17,679 --> 01:54:20,080
it is the the money we invested in the

2808
01:54:20,080 --> 01:54:21,840
driving range is paying off and we're

2809
01:54:21,840 --> 01:54:23,599
finding out that some of the other

2810
01:54:23,599 --> 01:54:25,119
places that have it are really doing

2811
01:54:25,119 --> 01:54:26,719
very well with it. So,

2812
01:54:26,719 --> 01:54:28,719
>> you know, it's we're gathering that data

2813
01:54:28,719 --> 01:54:30,880
right now. It's hard to get it all in,

2814
01:54:30,880 --> 01:54:33,760
but we are getting it and um finding it

2815
01:54:33,760 --> 01:54:35,440
and and there are things like I said the

2816
01:54:35,440 --> 01:54:37,199
60 to 90 days of stuff that we have to

2817
01:54:37,199 --> 01:54:38,719
get we have to bring it back to council

2818
01:54:38,719 --> 01:54:40,239
with we're going to want to raise the

2819
01:54:40,239 --> 01:54:42,159
rates by this amount and

2820
01:54:42,159 --> 01:54:43,840
>> so when you come back with those I hope

2821
01:54:43,840 --> 01:54:45,599
that you will have some estimates of how

2822
01:54:45,599 --> 01:54:47,679
that will affect your bottom line so

2823
01:54:47,679 --> 01:54:49,679
that we know what we're looking for

2824
01:54:49,679 --> 01:54:52,239
>> and and it we it's a little bit hard to

2825
01:54:52,239 --> 01:54:53,599
put a number that we can put something

2826
01:54:53,599 --> 01:54:55,119
to it because when you raise the rates

2827
01:54:55,119 --> 01:54:57,280
sometimes you lose

2828
01:54:57,280 --> 01:54:58,800
>> the people that were getting such a

2829
01:54:58,800 --> 01:55:00,639
deal. We can do an estimate. Yeah.

2830
01:55:00,639 --> 01:55:02,400
>> Okay.

2831
01:55:02,400 --> 01:55:03,760
>> Thank you, councelor Sely. Councelor

2832
01:55:03,760 --> 01:55:05,199
Ward,

2833
01:55:05,199 --> 01:55:08,159
>> basically Mike, what I was expecting was

2834
01:55:08,159 --> 01:55:09,760
what we're going to do and when we're

2835
01:55:09,760 --> 01:55:14,480
going to do it and the timeline on how

2836
01:55:14,480 --> 01:55:17,599
do you track do you track your budget

2837
01:55:17,599 --> 01:55:19,760
monthly where you are to budget for the

2838
01:55:19,760 --> 01:55:21,040
year?

2839
01:55:21,040 --> 01:55:21,760
>> Yes. [clears throat]

2840
01:55:21,760 --> 01:55:23,760
>> Do you make adjustments if you're over

2841
01:55:23,760 --> 01:55:27,199
or do you just keep going?

2842
01:55:27,199 --> 01:55:29,840
if we're o well we don't go over we stay

2843
01:55:29,840 --> 01:55:32,719
within our budget and I think we do a

2844
01:55:32,719 --> 01:55:33,920
good job of staying within our budget

2845
01:55:33,920 --> 01:55:36,320
but we at the end we

2846
01:55:36,320 --> 01:55:38,080
>> have to

2847
01:55:38,080 --> 01:55:40,159
boost it up to get things and that's

2848
01:55:40,159 --> 01:55:42,719
where it gets but we we we haven't

2849
01:55:42,719 --> 01:55:45,679
really gone over budget in very many

2850
01:55:45,679 --> 01:55:48,560
accounts really and in labor we end up

2851
01:55:48,560 --> 01:55:51,280
saving money sometimes by people that

2852
01:55:51,280 --> 01:55:52,960
will

2853
01:55:52,960 --> 01:55:55,119
leave to go to other jobs and they don't

2854
01:55:55,119 --> 01:55:57,280
get filled for several months and things

2855
01:55:57,280 --> 01:55:59,119
like that sometimes. So we save there

2856
01:55:59,119 --> 01:56:00,159
too. So

2857
01:56:00,159 --> 01:56:02,000
>> So if you're not over budget, how do we

2858
01:56:02,000 --> 01:56:04,480
lose money every year?

2859
01:56:04,480 --> 01:56:06,239
>> How come at the end of the year we end

2860
01:56:06,239 --> 01:56:10,960
up a half million dollars short?

2861
01:56:10,960 --> 01:56:13,920
>> I'm just trying to figure out. So, it's

2862
01:56:13,920 --> 01:56:16,320
a good question and I think um

2863
01:56:16,320 --> 01:56:17,920
Councilman Ward, I think where you're

2864
01:56:17,920 --> 01:56:20,719
going with two different two different

2865
01:56:20,719 --> 01:56:23,679
looks at it, but um

2866
01:56:23,679 --> 01:56:25,360
what what you're saying is okay, we've

2867
01:56:25,360 --> 01:56:26,719
budgeted this much, we're going to buy

2868
01:56:26,719 --> 01:56:28,159
this equipment, we're going to do these

2869
01:56:28,159 --> 01:56:30,800
things, invest in the golf course based

2870
01:56:30,800 --> 01:56:33,119
on this type of revenue. So, when the

2871
01:56:33,119 --> 01:56:34,880
revenues are down, do we adjust? And

2872
01:56:34,880 --> 01:56:41,119
generally I think um because it's been a general fund for you

2873
01:56:41,119 --> 01:56:45,199
know for since it's existed we budget

2874
01:56:45,199 --> 01:56:47,040
those things based on general funds. You

2875
01:56:47,040 --> 01:56:48,480
know any of the expenses we have

2876
01:56:48,480 --> 01:56:50,960
budgeted in the revenues we estimate

2877
01:56:50,960 --> 01:56:53,440
those revenues and and we we usually

2878
01:56:53,440 --> 01:56:54,719
estimate them pretty close to where

2879
01:56:54,719 --> 01:56:58,159
they're going to end up. Um but

2880
01:56:58,159 --> 01:57:00,239
>> I understand where you're going. They

2881
01:57:00,239 --> 01:57:01,920
should be closer together as far as

2882
01:57:01,920 --> 01:57:04,800
tying together. Where I'm going is it

2883
01:57:04,800 --> 01:57:06,480
should be freestanding. It should be on

2884
01:57:06,480 --> 01:57:08,400
its own. Just like the water on the

2885
01:57:08,400 --> 01:57:10,400
where it has to pay for itself. If it

2886
01:57:10,400 --> 01:57:13,199
don't, then we need to do whatever we

2887
01:57:13,199 --> 01:57:16,159
need to do. Get rid of it. Put somebody

2888
01:57:16,159 --> 01:57:18,880
else in there. I'm just saying. I I

2889
01:57:18,880 --> 01:57:20,880
fully expected at this meeting for you

2890
01:57:20,880 --> 01:57:23,119
to come here and say, "We've went

2891
01:57:23,119 --> 01:57:25,599
through the report. This is what we

2892
01:57:25,599 --> 01:57:27,280
found. This is where we're going to

2893
01:57:27,280 --> 01:57:28,719
start this. This is where we're going to

2894
01:57:28,719 --> 01:57:30,000
start this. And this is where we're

2895
01:57:30,000 --> 01:57:32,719
going to start this." if it should not

2896
01:57:32,719 --> 01:57:35,440
take you another 60 to 90 days to bring

2897
01:57:35,440 --> 01:57:38,800
something to council on the rates. I I

2898
01:57:38,800 --> 01:57:42,480
don't I I just think that's a ridiculous

2899
01:57:42,480 --> 01:57:44,800
timeline, but that's all I'm going to

2900
01:57:44,800 --> 01:57:48,880
say. I I'm I'm done. If I can clarify on

2901
01:57:48,880 --> 01:57:51,520
the rates, I don't think it means he

2902
01:57:51,520 --> 01:57:54,081
won't bring anything in 60 to 90 days.

2903
01:57:54,081 --> 01:57:55,360
[clears throat] The time frame for

2904
01:57:55,360 --> 01:57:56,960
raising the rates because we have to

2905
01:57:56,960 --> 01:57:58,960
advertise and all that to actually have

2906
01:57:58,960 --> 01:58:00,719
higher rates would be the 90s. So, so

2907
01:58:00,719 --> 01:58:03,040
we'll have something well before that 60

2908
01:58:03,040 --> 01:58:04,320
to 90 days.

2909
01:58:04,320 --> 01:58:07,520
>> Okay. One other thing, um, when the

2910
01:58:07,520 --> 01:58:10,639
report came out, uh, one of the things

2911
01:58:10,639 --> 01:58:15,040
that I noticed was that the, uh, yearly

2912
01:58:15,040 --> 01:58:17,679
passes are staggered

2913
01:58:17,679 --> 01:58:19,840
instead of like starting January 1 and

2914
01:58:19,840 --> 01:58:21,599
going to January 1. Are we going to

2915
01:58:21,599 --> 01:58:22,400
change that?

2916
01:58:22,400 --> 01:58:24,480
>> No, they're they're from the day you

2917
01:58:24,480 --> 01:58:28,400
purchase it for 365 days.

2918
01:58:28,400 --> 01:58:31,920
So your your revenue for this year goes

2919
01:58:31,920 --> 01:58:34,159
into next year.

2920
01:58:34,159 --> 01:58:35,520
>> Yeah. And revenue from the last year

2921
01:58:35,520 --> 01:58:37,920
>> where if you went from from this date to

2922
01:58:37,920 --> 01:58:40,320
this date, it would be within a year.

2923
01:58:40,320 --> 01:58:43,280
That's all I'm saying. I most places if

2924
01:58:43,280 --> 01:58:45,599
you have a yearly it's January to

2925
01:58:45,599 --> 01:58:46,400
January.

2926
01:58:46,400 --> 01:58:48,719
>> No. where I was at in in Michigan in

2927
01:58:48,719 --> 01:58:50,480
Indiana where you have snow and winter.

2928
01:58:50,480 --> 01:58:52,800
We did that where you signed up early to

2929
01:58:52,800 --> 01:58:55,280
get your season pass if you paid in

2930
01:58:55,280 --> 01:58:57,440
January but it was from January till the

2931
01:58:57,440 --> 01:59:00,320
next December 31st then you would we

2932
01:59:00,320 --> 01:59:01,440
would have it so you got a discount if

2933
01:59:01,440 --> 01:59:02,719
you paid in January and if you waited

2934
01:59:02,719 --> 01:59:04,800
till June to buy it but it was only it

2935
01:59:04,800 --> 01:59:06,560
would be yearly. So there are some that

2936
01:59:06,560 --> 01:59:08,719
do that but here we have golf all year

2937
01:59:08,719 --> 01:59:10,080
so it's

2938
01:59:10,080 --> 01:59:12,560
>> would be kind of hard to

2939
01:59:12,560 --> 01:59:15,760
>> unless you unless you proate back first.

2940
01:59:15,760 --> 01:59:17,840
So I was used to year

2941
01:59:17,840 --> 01:59:19,599
>> and that that where where I was at

2942
01:59:19,599 --> 01:59:21,520
before where it's winters, we have that

2943
01:59:21,520 --> 01:59:23,440
too. So but this the way they've always

2944
01:59:23,440 --> 01:59:25,040
done it here and I I still think it's

2945
01:59:25,040 --> 01:59:26,639
pretty good. I mean you're just doing it

2946
01:59:26,639 --> 01:59:29,119
for a year and

2947
01:59:29,119 --> 01:59:32,880
>> Okay. Thank you.

2948
01:59:32,880 --> 01:59:35,679
And also about making it so it pays for

2949
01:59:35,679 --> 01:59:38,880
itself. I mean, um,

2950
01:59:38,880 --> 01:59:40,800
our pools don't pay for themselves and

2951
01:59:40,800 --> 01:59:43,360
our softball fields don't pay for

2952
01:59:43,360 --> 01:59:45,119
themselves and the dog parks don't pay

2953
01:59:45,119 --> 01:59:47,280
for themselves and you know, and I

2954
01:59:47,280 --> 01:59:48,560
understand what everybody's saying that

2955
01:59:48,560 --> 01:59:50,719
golf should, but we have a lot of events

2956
01:59:50,719 --> 01:59:53,440
in our city that are, you're correct,

2957
01:59:53,440 --> 01:59:55,280
but a lot bigger percentage of the

2958
01:59:55,280 --> 01:59:57,599
people use those other facilities than

2959
01:59:57,599 --> 01:59:59,679
use the golf course that are actually

2960
01:59:59,679 --> 02:00:02,880
citizens and taxpayers of

2961
02:00:02,880 --> 02:00:05,840
>> we're finding that 90% of Mars

2962
02:00:05,840 --> 02:00:07,920
residents. So, so, so far that's what

2963
02:00:07,920 --> 02:00:09,520
we've found. 10% are non-resident

2964
02:00:09,520 --> 02:00:11,520
>> resop changes and gets better.

2965
02:00:11,520 --> 02:00:13,199
>> Residents because of the way we do

2966
02:00:13,199 --> 02:00:16,239
resident passes or residents actually of

2967
02:00:16,239 --> 02:00:18,000
the city itself.

2968
02:00:18,000 --> 02:00:20,159
>> Well, to get to get our rates now, you

2969
02:00:20,159 --> 02:00:22,719
have to be a a water user. You have to

2970
02:00:22,719 --> 02:00:23,280
have a

2971
02:00:23,280 --> 02:00:26,880
>> I'm asking residents as water users or

2972
02:00:26,880 --> 02:00:29,040
residents of the city?

2973
02:00:29,040 --> 02:00:32,239
>> Water users.

2974
02:00:32,239 --> 02:00:35,679
not residents of you can be wherever

2975
02:00:35,679 --> 02:00:38,719
like Butler uses the city water so those

2976
02:00:38,719 --> 02:00:40,159
people can get it but Golden Valley

2977
02:00:40,159 --> 02:00:42,880
doesn't so those people don't get the

2978
02:00:42,880 --> 02:00:45,679
resident rate so our resident rate has

2979
02:00:45,679 --> 02:00:47,119
really tightened up a lot and we're

2980
02:00:47,119 --> 02:00:47,920
seeing that in the

2981
02:00:47,920 --> 02:00:51,520
>> but again they're not actual

2982
02:00:51,520 --> 02:00:54,080
residents of Kangman

2983
02:00:54,080 --> 02:00:56,560
>> well this and the reason the reason we

2984
02:00:56,560 --> 02:00:58,320
haven't done that before is because we

2985
02:00:58,320 --> 02:01:00,159
don't have a property tax if we had a

2986
02:01:00,159 --> 02:01:01,840
city property tax and I would agree

2987
02:01:01,840 --> 02:01:04,480
fully that anybody that lives in the

2988
02:01:04,480 --> 02:01:06,719
city should get the just the resident

2989
02:01:06,719 --> 02:01:08,639
rate and not everybody else. So, you

2990
02:01:08,639 --> 02:01:10,239
know, but we don't have a property tax.

2991
02:01:10,239 --> 02:01:12,239
So, that's kind of that's why it's been

2992
02:01:12,239 --> 02:01:14,560
the way it is. So, and if that the

2993
02:01:14,560 --> 02:01:15,840
council would like to change that, we

2994
02:01:15,840 --> 02:01:22,470
could change that too. But,

2995
02:01:22,480 --> 02:01:26,229
» okay.

2996
02:01:26,239 --> 02:01:29,199
» Uh this question is for you, Tim. uh

2997
02:01:29,199 --> 02:01:31,920
what is the process to change this into

2998
02:01:31,920 --> 02:01:34,560
an enterprise fund? Is that something

2999
02:01:34,560 --> 02:01:36,960
that we would tackle during the budget

3000
02:01:36,960 --> 02:01:39,199
or is that something that the city needs

3001
02:01:39,199 --> 02:01:41,679
to know long before the budget season so

3002
02:01:41,679 --> 02:01:47,909
that you can prepare for it?

3003
02:01:47,919 --> 02:01:48,960
» [laughter]

3004
02:01:48,960 --> 02:01:51,119
>> I'm looking back at I I believe it would

3005
02:01:51,119 --> 02:01:52,560
be something we would tackle at budget

3006
02:01:52,560 --> 02:01:54,480
season, but definitely that's something

3007
02:01:54,480 --> 02:01:56,320
that if that's the direction council

3008
02:01:56,320 --> 02:01:59,520
would like to go, we can plan for that.

3009
02:01:59,520 --> 02:02:01,199
>> I think it's worthwhile. I know you're

3010
02:02:01,199 --> 02:02:03,679
still going to have to transfer money uh

3011
02:02:03,679 --> 02:02:06,159
out of the general fund until it does

3012
02:02:06,159 --> 02:02:08,960
break even, but the council would have

3013
02:02:08,960 --> 02:02:11,840
more control over exactly how much is

3014
02:02:11,840 --> 02:02:14,800
spent every year. and that money is

3015
02:02:14,800 --> 02:02:17,840
doled out and then that's

3016
02:02:17,840 --> 02:02:20,080
it. It it'd be a way of us reducing how

3017
02:02:20,080 --> 02:02:22,560
much comes out of the general fund. So

3018
02:02:22,560 --> 02:02:24,639
that I mean that just I know we're not

3019
02:02:24,639 --> 02:02:26,159
talking about that tonight, but I just

3020
02:02:26,159 --> 02:02:28,719
want to know that process.

3021
02:02:28,719 --> 02:02:30,639
Is that true? Is that correct, Tina?

3022
02:02:30,639 --> 02:02:33,199
Thank you,

3023
02:02:33,199 --> 02:02:35,280
>> Councelor Savage.

3024
02:02:35,280 --> 02:02:38,480
Thank you. Hi, Mike. Um

3025
02:02:38,480 --> 02:02:40,000
I'm going to go against grain a little

3026
02:02:40,000 --> 02:02:41,920
bit. I like the direction it's going. It

3027
02:02:41,920 --> 02:02:44,560
may it's not something that can be paced

3028
02:02:44,560 --> 02:02:46,800
quickly. I mean, yeah, we'd like to have

3029
02:02:46,800 --> 02:02:50,000
it a little sooner than later, but

3030
02:02:50,000 --> 02:02:52,960
knowing the way the database

3031
02:02:52,960 --> 02:02:56,320
was misconfigured, very hard to retrieve

3032
02:02:56,320 --> 02:02:58,880
and building the data back up does take

3033
02:02:58,880 --> 02:03:01,679
time, especially with the non-residents.

3034
02:03:01,679 --> 02:03:03,840
Um, the online marketing, the

3035
02:03:03,840 --> 02:03:05,679
newsletter, get it going as soon as you

3036
02:03:05,679 --> 02:03:08,239
can. I I firmly believe that will help a

3037
02:03:08,239 --> 02:03:10,960
lot. I think maybe A DOT should paint us

3038
02:03:10,960 --> 02:03:13,520
a mural alongside that wall so we have a

3039
02:03:13,520 --> 02:03:16,320
golf course there. Um they did take that

3040
02:03:16,320 --> 02:03:19,040
away from us. Um

3041
02:03:19,040 --> 02:03:20,800
take into consideration what everybody's

3042
02:03:20,800 --> 02:03:24,239
saying. I I'm a golfer. I know the

3043
02:03:24,239 --> 02:03:27,040
route. Um I'm happy with where it's

3044
02:03:27,040 --> 02:03:29,280
going. Whether or not everyone else is

3045
02:03:29,280 --> 02:03:31,599
going to be it's it's going to take a

3046
02:03:31,599 --> 02:03:34,159
little patience, but it's it's just

3047
02:03:34,159 --> 02:03:39,360
apparently a short lease. But the top Golf or not the Top Golf, but

3048
02:03:39,360 --> 02:03:40,080
>> Top Tracer,

3049
02:03:40,080 --> 02:03:42,719
>> if someone pays for it upfront and we're

3050
02:03:42,719 --> 02:03:45,280
revenue sharing to pay it off, I don't

3051
02:03:45,280 --> 02:03:47,199
have a problem with that at all. I know

3052
02:03:47,199 --> 02:03:48,880
Mike, I talked with Mike, he had a

3053
02:03:48,880 --> 02:03:50,239
concern about the downtime of the

3054
02:03:50,239 --> 02:03:52,080
driving range. So maybe that's something

3055
02:03:52,080 --> 02:03:53,840
we can look at how that will affect the

3056
02:03:53,840 --> 02:03:56,480
driving range, especially at night. Um,

3057
02:03:56,480 --> 02:03:57,920
but you could have parties there,

3058
02:03:57,920 --> 02:03:59,679
bachelor parties. There's so much that

3059
02:03:59,679 --> 02:04:01,360
could be attractive to have that kind of

3060
02:04:01,360 --> 02:04:03,280
addition there. I know I'd be there. I

3061
02:04:03,280 --> 02:04:06,960
lived right across the street. So, um, I

3062
02:04:06,960 --> 02:04:08,719
love the golf course and I don't want to

3063
02:04:08,719 --> 02:04:11,360
see it be a desert wasteland at all. So,

3064
02:04:11,360 --> 02:04:14,960
that's all I got to say.

3065
02:04:14,960 --> 02:04:17,840
>> Okay, Mike, I have I think you have an

3066
02:04:17,840 --> 02:04:19,119
idea of what we want.

3067
02:04:19,119 --> 02:04:20,400
>> I think so.

3068
02:04:20,400 --> 02:04:23,440
>> Um, varied opinions, but I appreciate

3069
02:04:23,440 --> 02:04:25,040
all the comments. We appreciate all the

3070
02:04:25,040 --> 02:04:26,639
comments. Some great comments tonight

3071
02:04:26,639 --> 02:04:28,800
and we appreciate the report.

3072
02:04:28,800 --> 02:04:30,320
>> Thank you all. I appreciate all of you

3073
02:04:30,320 --> 02:04:33,280
and I appreciate your input and um and

3074
02:04:33,280 --> 02:04:34,639
we don't have to wait till a meeting for

3075
02:04:34,639 --> 02:04:36,080
you to give me a call and tell me ideas

3076
02:04:36,080 --> 02:04:38,159
that you have. Anybody I appreciate the

3077
02:04:38,159 --> 02:04:40,320
ideas and be happy to meet you at the

3078
02:04:40,320 --> 02:04:41,520
golf course and go around and look at

3079
02:04:41,520 --> 02:04:43,199
things and say, "Hey, can we do this or

3080
02:04:43,199 --> 02:04:45,199
can we do that?" I'm always welcoming

3081
02:04:45,199 --> 02:04:47,599
that. So, feel free to give me a call

3082
02:04:47,599 --> 02:04:50,320
anytime and um be happy to meet with

3083
02:04:50,320 --> 02:04:50,960
you.

3084
02:04:50,960 --> 02:04:52,159
>> Well, I think one thing too is

3085
02:04:52,159 --> 02:04:54,960
communication. Um I think you've heard

3086
02:04:54,960 --> 02:04:56,880
that we a lot we want some better

3087
02:04:56,880 --> 02:04:58,000
reporting

3088
02:04:58,000 --> 02:05:00,000
>> so you know or at least put us on that

3089
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:01,599
list with the the commission members so

3090
02:05:01,599 --> 02:05:02,560
that we're getting

3091
02:05:02,560 --> 02:05:03,920
>> we'll do that for sure.

3092
02:05:03,920 --> 02:05:06,560
>> Okay right from the get-go. So thank

3093
02:05:06,560 --> 02:05:06,960
you.

3094
02:05:06,960 --> 02:05:08,320
>> Thank you all.

3095
02:05:08,320 --> 02:05:10,960
>> Okay. Item number six announcements by

3096
02:05:10,960 --> 02:05:12,719
mayor council members and city manager.

3097
02:05:12,719 --> 02:05:14,880
Walsh.

3098
02:05:14,880 --> 02:05:17,199
>> Thank you mayor. Um couple of things.

3099
02:05:17,199 --> 02:05:19,199
Annie gave me a post-it note and I left

3100
02:05:19,199 --> 02:05:21,920
it in my office. So, I know we have Walk

3101
02:05:21,920 --> 02:05:24,880
Away from Drugs coming up on the 21st.

3102
02:05:24,880 --> 02:05:26,080
>> Oh, yeah.

3103
02:05:26,080 --> 02:05:28,960
>> And Annie, what am I missing?

3104
02:05:28,960 --> 02:05:30,719
>> We have coffee with the mayor this

3105
02:05:30,719 --> 02:05:32,960
Thursday here in council chambers for

3106
02:05:32,960 --> 02:05:34,800
anybody that would like to join. Special

3107
02:05:34,800 --> 02:05:37,520
treat. Our deputy city manager will be

3108
02:05:37,520 --> 02:05:40,560
sitting in on that with the mayor. We

3109
02:05:40,560 --> 02:05:42,639
also are hosting the Tri City Council

3110
02:05:42,639 --> 02:05:44,800
meeting at the end of this month in

3111
02:05:44,800 --> 02:05:46,719
Kingman. So, that's an opportunity if

3112
02:05:46,719 --> 02:05:48,560
people haven't had an opportunity to

3113
02:05:48,560 --> 02:05:51,520
attend that. And the only other thing

3114
02:05:51,520 --> 02:05:54,239
that I gave manager Walsh is that the

3115
02:05:54,239 --> 02:05:57,040
kayak mural on the back of the Mojave

3116
02:05:57,040 --> 02:05:59,920
wash wall is um complete. They're just

3117
02:05:59,920 --> 02:06:02,480
finishing up the protective coating on

3118
02:06:02,480 --> 02:06:03,760
that. So if you haven't had an

3119
02:06:03,760 --> 02:06:05,599
opportunity um get out there and look at

3120
02:06:05,599 --> 02:06:08,400
it. It is beautiful.

3121
02:06:08,400 --> 02:06:10,719
>> Thank you.

3122
02:06:10,719 --> 02:06:12,080
>> Actually, Annie, you said it all right

3123
02:06:12,080 --> 02:06:13,920
there in that kite and that mural is

3124
02:06:13,920 --> 02:06:17,119
amazing. So, I would Yeah, please get

3125
02:06:17,119 --> 02:06:19,360
out there and take a look at it.

3126
02:06:19,360 --> 02:06:20,880
Councelor Savage,

3127
02:06:20,880 --> 02:06:22,080
>> I have nothing to report.

3128
02:06:22,080 --> 02:06:26,000
>> Okay. Councelor Ward, Councelor Saley,

3129
02:06:26,000 --> 02:06:29,280
Councelor Dykins, Vice Mayor,

3130
02:06:29,280 --> 02:06:33,679
>> I do. I wanted to give um

3131
02:06:33,679 --> 02:06:37,199
just a huge thank you to staff um for

3132
02:06:37,199 --> 02:06:39,360
the magnificent uh ceremony and

3133
02:06:39,360 --> 02:06:40,960
celebration of the opening of Flying

3134
02:06:40,960 --> 02:06:44,000
Fortress yesterday. That was a great day

3135
02:06:44,000 --> 02:06:46,480
for Kingman and you made it as special

3136
02:06:46,480 --> 02:06:49,679
as it should have been. Um, on that

3137
02:06:49,679 --> 02:06:53,119
note, uh, I have seen a comment on

3138
02:06:53,119 --> 02:06:55,280
social media that it is the exit to

3139
02:06:55,280 --> 02:06:58,719
nowhere. So, I will mention this that

3140
02:06:58,719 --> 02:07:01,440
Rome was not built in a day. We are

3141
02:07:01,440 --> 02:07:04,159
still working on the road out to the

3142
02:07:04,159 --> 02:07:06,719
airport. However, we do have an

3143
02:07:06,719 --> 02:07:08,639
interchange that was 50 years in the

3144
02:07:08,639 --> 02:07:10,400
making, and that's worth celebrating.

3145
02:07:10,400 --> 02:07:13,360
So, please enjoy the celebration of the

3146
02:07:13,360 --> 02:07:17,440
opening of that part of town and um

3147
02:07:17,440 --> 02:07:19,840
let's have a little grace.

3148
02:07:19,840 --> 02:07:22,159
>> Got to start somewhere, right? That's

3149
02:07:22,159 --> 02:07:24,000
right. Definitely. Thank you, Vice

3150
02:07:24,000 --> 02:07:26,000
Mayor. Appreciate that. Um as I

3151
02:07:26,000 --> 02:07:27,119
mentioned earlier, of course, a lot of

3152
02:07:27,119 --> 02:07:30,000
activities going on. Um, I was able to

3153
02:07:30,000 --> 02:07:33,440
on Saturday actually once again talking

3154
02:07:33,440 --> 02:07:36,480
about our veterans, JAVC had a memorial

3155
02:07:36,480 --> 02:07:38,159
service for three of our veterans that

3156
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lived in our community

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but didn't really have family and it was

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actually a special memorial service they

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had on Saturday at at 4:00 at Journey

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Church and it was great to attend and I

3161
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appreciate the invitation. I appreciate

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all that JVC does for our veterans. Um,

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good stuff going on.

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Um,

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what else? And of course, I told you

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about the young Marines.

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Sunday afternoon, I was able to go out

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and greet the air crew as they flew in.

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There was a number of crowd people out

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there. In fact, it was amazing how many

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there's probably over 100 citizens at

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least out there on Sunday afternoon just

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to see this B7 land at the airport.

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>> So, of course, I'm an airplane nut, so

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I'm going to mention it. But, um, it was

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a great thing. And of course in

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yesterday the fly over and once again as

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vice mayor said I echo what they said.

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Thank you staff for all that you've done

3180
02:08:30,880 --> 02:08:33,840
for that to get that event across the

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02:08:33,840 --> 02:08:35,920
finish line and such an amazing time

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02:08:35,920 --> 02:08:37,760
yesterday. Couple of different things we

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do have coming up this weekend. The

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Kingman Route 66 street drags. Let's not

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forget that. Of course be careful in

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that area. Uh October 9th through the

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11th. And then um October 16th and 17th

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we have the Route 66 fest at uh Lewis

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02:08:56,400 --> 02:08:59,280
Kingman Park. So some great stuff coming

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02:08:59,280 --> 02:09:01,040
up in our community. Please pay

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02:09:01,040 --> 02:09:03,920
attention to uh either the website, go

3192
02:09:03,920 --> 02:09:06,239
on to the city app on your phone and all

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02:09:06,239 --> 02:09:07,360
these different things. You can see

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02:09:07,360 --> 02:09:08,800
what's happening in our city. There is

3195
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no reason for someone to say, "Well, I

3196
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don't know what's going on." Yes. All

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you have to do is get plugged in, of

3198
02:09:15,679 --> 02:09:17,040
course, and you can always unplug when

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you want, but if you want to know, this

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is what you do. So, appreciate all

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that's done in our city. That's all I

3202
02:09:22,639 --> 02:09:25,599
have for tonight. Um,

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final thing, item seven, future council

3204
02:09:28,719 --> 02:09:31,760
request for future reports and updates.

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Council, anything?

3206
02:09:34,239 --> 02:09:37,199
Okay, it is a quiet evening then. Thanks

3207
02:09:37,199 --> 02:09:38,800
one. Well, thank you all once again for

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being in council chambers tonight. We

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appreciate your particip participation

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and have a good evening and be safe

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going home.