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march 24 2020

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heavenly father heavenly father we come
to you today and ask for your guidance

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wisdom
and support as we begin this meeting

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help us engage in meaningful discussion
allow us to grow closer as a group and

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nurture the bonds of our community
amen

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i pledge allegiance to the flag of the
united states of america and to the

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republic for which it stands one nation
under god

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indivisible with liberty and justice for
all

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the city of kirby is dedicated to
delivering excellent municipal services

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to our community in a fiscally
responsible manner

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city secretary please call role
mayor pro tem grant here

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council member apoca care
member salazar

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he did let us know he wouldn't be able
to attend

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council member greider
she did let us know she's going to be

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running a little bit late okay council
member street here

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council remember martin here
mayor aldridge here we have a forum

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okay

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citizen participation
we have one two three four

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six people
signed up to speak

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first is ernest sprotling

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moving on roger romans is next

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good evening madam mayor council

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i'm discussing the agenda item
request and announcements

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request by mayor and council members for
items to be placed on future city

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council agendas
and announcements on city events

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and community interest
i'm addressing this because

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all too often
council members are using the platform

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to use their authority to project things
other than what's on the agenda

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and during this item
at the last council meeting

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during announcements
section

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the residents were subjected to a
pathetic narrative by councilman grant

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what sounded to me like a cry for
sympathy as he feels he has been

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inappropriately attacked by some
individuals

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i took offense that he specifically
called me out by name in this matter

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i took offense because while i was on
council

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with mr grant
myself my family

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including minor children
were wrongly subjected to a character

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assassination campaign
in an attempt to delegitimize me as a

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council person in this community
actions

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at the last meeting
that were characterized by you mr grant

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as lowest of the low
yet at a council meeting

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while miss pierce was mayor
i addressed this matter and i was told

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by mayor pierce that there would be no
apology

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and in the announcement portion
when you spoke mr grant you condoned

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that which you called lowest of the low
behavior

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by stating directly to me
that i deserved everything that i got

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madame mayor if you want to move this
city forward in a positive direction

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you will need to improve the character
and culture that has pervaded this body

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for far too long thank you very much
have a good evening thank you mr romans

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mr miller you are signed up to speak uh
would you like to speak now

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absolutely

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jack miller i live on dick gordon street
so at the last meeting after i was

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kicked out which by the way mayor
don't tell your police

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to escort me from the building all you
have to do is say jack leave my my

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meeting
and i'll do what you say because i

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follow the law
and the law requires me to leave if you

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tell me to
stop trying to weaponize your police

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they're law enforcement they don't have
the authority to kick me out of this

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meeting only you do
stop asking them to do your bidding you

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want me to leave you tell me to leave i
leave i just want to put that on the

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record i have no problem with leaving
in fact if you would have just told me

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to leave i would have got my stuff and
just walked out

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it would have been a problem but no i
put on a show

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because because of you i had an officer
in my face ready to put hands on me

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which would cost your city a lot of
money

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you have a chief that's in charge of
those officers you're not in charge of

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them that chief is
you want them officers to do something

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on your behalf you ask the chief the
chief will make sure that those officers

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do what they're supposed to do according
to the law

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after i was kicked out mr grant goes on
a tirade

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making some false statements now i've
read the police report and i've done

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some in-depth investigation and i have
questions about michael's death and i

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have a right to ask those questions

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michael can't talk
so i have questions like for instance

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why did the police call dr kaufman a
primary care physician

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who quote was ready to sign a death
certificate without hesitation

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when michael was not on hospice
at seven in the morning dr kaufman is my

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doctor one of the dirtiest doctors
around

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why did the police call the me's office
and tell them we got a death certificate

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that's going to be signed

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that resulted in the emmy not coming out
and i don't know if you know this but

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texas law requires on
a death

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that is not hospice
for a medical examiner inquisition or

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inquest to be made
an autopsy to be performed

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he was found according to the police
report with a lamp cord wrapped around

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his arm
that's according to the police

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department i see mr grant shaking his
head so is are the police lying there

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were no drugs found no paraphernalia
found

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how much was the life insurance policy
zero

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and i didn't ask for i that was a
rhetorical question

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please will you call order
i'm giving you your your first right

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call order on your own counsel people
please

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call order on anybody in here that gets
out of order

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why
was the tourniquet removed and the

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lap cord wrapped around
the arm

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those these are the kind of for your
time thank you

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and those statements aren't next up to
speak that's according to you mr mueller

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that's your first warning thank you
next up to speak is marco antonio

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give me just a moment before he speaks i
gotta set the yes ma'am

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okay
go ahead sir

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hola como estas
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a kirby

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do you want the police officer they're
standing next to your shoulder are you

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fixing to criticize the police

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procedure

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sir if you have nothing else to say is
your time up

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threshold

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thank you sir for your time

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next up is
mrs mann

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hello
um first of all sorry for your uh floss

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sir
um

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i live in the gordon area um
i saw the uh live stream of this last

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meeting and to tell you the truth i'm
kind of appalled

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on what was said and the lies that were
made

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you know you can't just accuse people of
doing something without them saying

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they're going to do it
so if the council member who said that a

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situation would correct himself
um as far as the agendas goes i wish it

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would be uh
spoken first then have a discussion

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about it
thank you have a good day

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thank you sir
uh next up um i know this person

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declined to speak but i'm going to give
them the option to speak again mr hunt

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are you still wishing not to speak

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and last but not least we have an email
submitted by chris garza

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mayor i've been asked to read the email
go right ahead

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okay
i'm gonna have to read fast i only have

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three minutes

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good afternoon council tonight i would
like to bring to your attention to city

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staff mistakes and issues that have been
arisen due to our city staff at city

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hall
accountability needs to start with our

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city staff who are the purveyors of
information

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and make decisions that affect council
and residents our city secretary has

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been dodging questions i have been
asking by stating that she will answer

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them without a timeline or without ever
reaching out to answer them

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she has also been writing minutes in
such a manner that they don't seem to

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explain the actuality of what's
occurring at the meeting

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and in certain times left whole things
out altogether of which you guys are

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aware of because mr roman stated as such
and no one would vote on those minutes

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and the capacity as our election
official we have seen a huge misuse of

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power
which was aided by a council majority

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but what needs to talked about
and brought up is how our election

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officials was persuaded to place
documentation in the election packet as

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well as send me a letter stating that i
could not be on the ballot which were

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both wrongfully done
i have begun the process of writing the

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ag's office and secretary of state about
these matters and have shown evidence

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that some senior counsel and senior
staff have essentially colluded against

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our charter to fulfill their own agendas
my request tonight is simply a way to

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notify you as counsel that the process
has begun to gather evidence to prove

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that due to a council majority
that nothing will be done to hold

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accountable those who are doing your
your bidding

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no matter how bad their wrongdoing
i tell you that there is a part of the

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charter article 2 at section 2.16
that allows for you to create an

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investigative body to inquire into the
conduct

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of any employee and therefore
a chance to question the bad conduct and

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mistakes and act accordingly i have no
expectations that this council majority

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will actually follow through
with the this request

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but by not doing anything it will
further my evidence that there are

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people on this majority
who have better access to city services

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as our city attorney and the employees
in city hall including our city managers

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the secretary and election official all
do the bidding of a senior council

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majority and as a favor never get held
accountable to their misdeeds i would

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like for you to place on the next agenda
to discuss having an investigative body

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as per our charter to look into the
misdeeds and mistakes of our city

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secretary and our election official and
hold them accountable to

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thank you patty you're welcome

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moving on to 6a fair county appraisal
district and property tax system

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good evening
uh my name is michael lamesky i'm the

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chief appraiser for the bear appraisal
district

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um
i believe they sent some handouts for

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you yes um just wanted to go real
quickly over the first pages just some

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bear county statistics
uh for this year uh this reappraisal

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year
values countywide are up roughly 22

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for total market value that's not
including any exemptions or anything of

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that sort that's just a market value
increase

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if we look at the calendar year from
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according to the real estate center at
texas a m university the average selling

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price of a home went from 273 to 312
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our average price now is somewhere
around 309 bear county

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throughout the entire county
one of the most incredible things about

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this year i think that when the pandemic
first started everybody expected

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everything to pull back just like
business had to

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that nothing could be further from the
truth with respect to real estate values

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and the availability of supplies to
build new improvements commercially or

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residentially
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i think that a lot of these things plus
the influx of people moving into texas

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something like a thousand every day
uh has caused there to be an extreme

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housing shortage i think anybody would
recognize that that's the case

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um
our commercial values are up roughly 18

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these are county-wide numbers and so
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being somewhat familiar with kirby you
actually won't see those kinds of

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increases commercially but i know that
residentially the average value of a

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homestead in kirby is projected to be
about 175 000 this year

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there's just not a whole lot listed for
sale

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in that price range

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there is one correction on that front
page you may or may not have heard but

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we had a ransomware attack at our office
this week

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and so we push back the date to mail
notices from april 1st to april the 8th

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taxpayers will still have about five
weeks to file their protest the protest

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deadline is may 15th
by law

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the protests will actually be extended
to the 16th since the 15th falls on a

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weekend
the next several pages just show

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multiple years of how the red line would
be according to the real estate center

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at texas a m university this chart will
show

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values doing this basically since 2011.
our values would be the values in green

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and you'll see that we've been tracking
that value very closely

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uh never any closer than this year as i
say the average selling price of a

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residence homestead was three hundred
and twelve thousand five fifty five the

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average value on the roll is 309 118.
if you look at the next page

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talks about the average residential
sales price by year by county

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and essentially you can see at the very
top of the page is travis county that's

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austin texas and williamson county
with the highest prices it almost well

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more than double the average selling
price here in bexar county while bear

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county remains affordable the majority
of our major

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taxing jurisdictions don't offer
a additional

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local option homestead exemption if you
will

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in austin dallas houston most of their
cities the counties offer a 20 percent

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even in comal county in new braunfels
they offer a 20

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local option homestead exemption for the
city as well as a county

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now in bear county one of the things
that we do have going for us that is

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atypical of large metros in texas is is
that the big four taxing jurisdiction is

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what i call them which is the city the
county the school and the community

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college district they all freeze
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so
if you're an over 65 senior your taxes

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are frozen for those four jurisdictions
irrespective of what happens to the

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value or
the tax rates

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the last page just shows again
the

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median residential sales price
by all counties and again bear county is

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the most affordable of all of them but
that median has crept up to two

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and so if you'll just look in 2005
value

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in your city was 188 million 733 000
about 2014 it had climbed more than

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double well almost doubled uh to 223
900 000.

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if you look at uh the projection for
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it's 618 million 454
617 or roughly

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26.75
over last year

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the very last column shows that your
city has done a pretty good job in terms

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of adjusting the tax rate as it needs to
when values are high tax rates are

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supposed to come down
y'all have been pretty true to that

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if you look at the
the last column

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the estimated change in levy
is projected to go up by more than 20

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if that tax rate remains the same as it
was last year and that's just for your

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information
the value history the estimated tax levy

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is all there at the bottom of the page
one of the things that i wanted to

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mention to you is
oftentimes get asked what are we

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supposed to do with these increasing
property values

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and that was a really interesting
article written by ross ramsey in the

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texas tribune and the crux of it was

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elected officials who get elected every
two years to the state legislature and

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say they're going to fight to lower your
property taxes i've been in this

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business for 40 years i'm about a year
and a half away from retiring i'll be

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62.
i can tell you right now

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every year since i've been in this
business and i've done everything you

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can from moppa floor to be the chief
appraiser at my office i can tell you

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that i've never seen the legislature do
anything below the property taxes

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you have to understand the relationship
of property taxes school funding and how

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it impacts local homeowners it makes for
a really good bumper sticker

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but it does not help any homeowners
the bottom line is every time the values

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go up and the tax rates don't come down
that's more money to the state

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in this year's state budget they are
projected to take in

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6.75 billion dollars more than they did
in the last biennium

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the more money they take in the less
money they put into local schools the

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more local tax rates have to come up
that's probably a conversation for

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another meeting and i will say before i
leave i've given you all my cards

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on the back of that card is jennifer
she's my executive assistant if you need

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a town hall if your residents feel like
they want to talk to us here

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we'll come back we'll do that and we'll
talk specifically about how to file a

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protest
there is some protest information in

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there that i do want to share with you
because she was kind enough to print it

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out
and that would be this document this is

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just the basic protest form
and most importantly

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she highlighted for you
with red arrows the most important

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things that taxpayers need to remember
to do and that is to check off what

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reason you're protesting every time
you're going to check off it's over

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market it's too high and it's not
equally appraised just do it

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the next thing you're going to want to
do is to make sure and

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uh let us know how you want to handle
this meeting do you want it in english

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do you want it in spanish do you want to
do it in person do you want to do it via

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zoom or webex or by telephone either way
we'll accommodate anything we are going

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to be working remotely
at the beginning to try to get the vast

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majority of these things done i think
last year we only had 600 live persons

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come through out of 141 000 appeals
but we saw

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this will be pushed off until the end of
the season

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the last thing you're going to want to
do is to check off the box that says

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evidence
that's my evidence and i'll tell you

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very succinctly that the reason you want
to do that as a taxpayer homeowner small

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business owner
city council member not elected official

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doesn't matter you have the same rights
afforded to you under the law

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if you check that box i have to give you
every ounce of information that i have

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and i can't give it to you by law until
you file a

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protest i'm talking about sales prices
i have sales prices texas is a

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non-disclosure state so every time a
piece of property sells we don't know

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about it
we will mail buyers and sellers

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questionnaires nobody's under any
requirement of while it even says so for

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them to respond to it but we generally
get about 30 35 percent back county-wide

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we get enough to do our job
and basically

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what makes that really tough is
i can't you know madam mayor if you

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called me 10 years ago and said mike i'd
like all the sales in my community i'd

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send them to you
if any taxpayer asked for him i'd send

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it to him
now

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the legislature has seen fit to make it
a requirement of law that you have to

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have a property currently under protest
for the year in question for the year

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that you're making your open records
request

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that doesn't really sound like open
government to me but that's the law

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if a taxpayer wants that information the
number one thing you need to do

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whether you agree with the value whether
you disagree with the value just to

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protect your right to appeal it's called
a protest it's really a conversation

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we'll sit down and talk to anybody last
year out of 141 000 taxpayer appeals we

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had almost a 94 settlement rate nobody
had to go to a hearing nobody had to go

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before a tribunal nobody had to do
anything to have a conversation with me

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or my staff
that's what it involved

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our job is to give them as much
information as we can to help them

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understand how we arrived at that value
and if we miss something having to do

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with their home
the next page talks about the kinds of

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things that are important to your appeal
and these are the most commonly used

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things
um

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in terms of
key protest information

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uh how you want to appeal and the things
that you want to appeal if your home

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isn't up to par if you have foundation
issues there are a lot of them out in

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this part of the county
if you have foundation issues roofing

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issues if your house is 25 years old and
has never been remodeled and you think

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we're comparing you to remodel
properties that's a reason to appeal

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in the inner city of san antonio we have
homes that are saha homes that are brand

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new
and rented to low-income people i have

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brand new
uh i call them flipper houses if you

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will they've been completely gutted some
have been demolished and rebuilt so i've

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got four or five different markets in
almost every neighborhood inside of 410

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and it extends beyond that some too so
we're very well acquainted and

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accustomed to dealing with those issues
we just want to make sure that every

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taxpayer that that wants to file an
appeal has a right to file an appeal

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and if anybody on this commission
wants to talk to me about how i know

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about what the state of texas is doing
it's not just my 40 years experience i

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currently am serving
on the property tax administration

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advisory board with
for comptroller hager we just had a

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meeting yesterday
and

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it was a zoom meeting that's all we've
had for two years nice seeing all of

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y'all even though i don't know most of
you

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the fact of the matter is the
comptroller's office the state of texas

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gets to stand behind the law and say we
don't have a state property tax

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we typically rank about six in the
nation and the highest property tax in

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the country and about 45th in the nation
in terms of overall taxation because we

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don't have an income tax
not an advocate for anything i'm not

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advocating for this tax or that tax i'm
just telling you why is what it is

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the legislature in fact does not have
constitutional authority to impose

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a property tax
but they control all the purse strings

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they make sure that the appraisal
district in every county and every part

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of the state of texas is studied every
two years biannually if you will this is

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a study year for us in bexar county
to make sure that we have appropriately

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appraised property in a market like this
that means that it's high enough

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has to be somewhere between 95 and 105
percent of market value not less than 95

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not more than 105.
that's the state's standard for testing

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us
i'm giving you the really cheap and

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dirty version of this but the fact of
the matter is

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if a school district does not tax at
their maximum tax rate and the appraisal

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district doesn't pass the property value
study then that school district and

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those taxpayers aren't entitled to the
full amount of state aid afforded under

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law that's generally referred to as hb3
in the last funding session i will tell

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you that there's absolutely nothing
that gives me more angst than having to

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raise value because there actually are
two ways for taxpayers to appeal

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market
and equity those are the two boxes i

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tell you to check off i can tell you
that while we're not supposed to treat

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taxpayers differently it's my opinion as
a taxpayer that our tax code in this

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state has since 1997
done just that

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if a homeowner in kirby on bauman street
wants to compare himself to a homeowner

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on seguin street there's probably going
to be some pretty good units of

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comparison
that same equity provision that makes

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sure that we treat homeowners equally in
this community and in every community in

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bexar county relative to their neighbors
is very different when you start looking

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at the jw marriott
the best most

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revenue generating hotel in the history
of bexar county when they can compare

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themselves to lesser properties
literally the equity statute requires

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that
the very best property

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actually doesn't say that it says that
no property including the very best

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property in any category can be
appraised above its median level of

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value
well you know what i bet the median

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level of value for a homeowner in any
community or any subdivision and san

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antonio texas is going to be pretty darn
close to their neighbors

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but when you compare the j.w marriott
to the two other

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resort hotels in bexar county
there is no comparability

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the westin has one golf course now they
just sold the other one

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they also lost the valero texas open to
the jw marriott i'm not picking on the

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jw marriott i love it i love the golf
course i love their food i don't love

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their food
they're okay

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but i will tell you that
as a taxpayer

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it's it's not
well i'll just let me just close with

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this i tell my staff
we have a range of value we have to deal

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with i need to pass that study looking
as poor as i possibly can

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95.0123

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somewhere in there
because i can't give away enough

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homeowner value to make up for how much
we lose in litigation

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and appeals on commercial property
because of the equity statute

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last year i had almost 20 no year before
last i had almost 27 billion dollars in

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litigation you know how much of it was
commercial

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99.999 percent of it you know how many
of them contended that they were over

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appraised
damn year not one

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they all claimed equity so the shops at
la candera could compare themselves to

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the forum
you familiar with the forum are you

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familiar with the shops at lochunder
maybe it's comparable to

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the quarry market but they don't compare
themselves to each other they compare

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themselves to lesser properties to get
that median level of value dropped down

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in my opinion equity has allowed the
best commercial property not just in our

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community but in every community in the
state of texas to pay taxes on about 50

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percent of their actual value
that's what we see

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if there's any homeowners in here that
want to be heard at a town hall in this

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community i'm happy to come back and do
that for you

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if we can
you know make sure we get them signed up

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for a protest we'll bring ipads we'll
bring appraisers we'll bring

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to have that conversation and get them
armed to be able to handle the appeal

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because my staff is going to listen to
whatever you say

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we're going to do our best to get the
closure on this

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and with that unless you have any
questions or to discuss tonight

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okay
do we have any go ahead mr i got a

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question sir

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on your
evaluation

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to homes that have uh like 100 percent
tax exempt

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how often do you check on that
because in certain instances there's

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people die
and it gets moved and nothing ever gets

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reported and
yes sir so whether it's 100 percent or

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an over 65 or a surviving spouse of 100
or a surviving spouse of an over 65 or

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disabled persons those things are
checked we send out and i'm sure people

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in your community have gotten them
because every year we send out about 10

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000 reapplication requests
the legislature and i don't mind saying

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this to homeowners the legislature does
not give me the authority to be a police

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force
i don't get to go and investigate if the

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person who's claiming that over 65 or
that 100 percent is actually the person

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who lives there
in fact if you tell my staff to get off

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your property you know what we're going
to do we're going to get off your

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property because i don't have a right to
be there unless you allow it

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once texas thought it was a good idea
for everybody to carry guns i don't

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the law are just going to continue to
get away with nothing absolutely

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and committing forgery on the back of
that document when i make them reapply

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they're absolutely entitled to it
there's no way to follow up at all

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there's nothing under the law that
allows me to follow up beyond and let me

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tell you something one of the best ways
of finding out about those situations is

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when the guy that lives behind him knows
damn goodwill it's a rent house

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and that that owner is in a nursing home
or that that owner doesn't live there he

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or he lives there but he rents out to
four or five rooms to different people

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and so we go and we ask
and they go no that's not true

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well i don't have a court of law i can
take that person too

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but they don't send you a death
certificate or nothing when pro i do

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purchase all the
bureau of vital statistics information

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we also get all the dmv information of
course i have to pay for it

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but we run those reports against our
qualification sheets every year

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so yeah i mean and and the bad thing is
i'm glad you brought that up if you're

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an over 65 person or even 100 disabled
person

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and you're concerned about your estate
and what you're going to leave to your

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family
it's really critical that you not just

447
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:10,079
talk to an attorney but you talk to some
of our exemption people in our office

448
00:35:08,240 --> 00:35:13,920
because we have undone so many things
that attorneys have done that cause

449
00:35:12,079 --> 00:35:18,480
people's taxes
to go from three thousand dollars a year

450
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:24,079
to twelve thousand dollars a year
and it's because they mishandled uh that

451
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:27,520
living trust or they mishandled the
ownership they were trying to do the

452
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:32,720
right thing but they put the horse
before the cart and almost got stuck

453
00:35:29,599 --> 00:35:38,079
with a big old tax bill
well that's not committing but

454
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:41,440
if you find someone that is
not eligible but they've signed it and

455
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:45,520
said they have
i mean

456
00:35:43,599 --> 00:35:48,240
is it not a government document or that
they're saying it is a government

457
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:52,800
document and it has the language in
there pursuant to

458
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:56,640
the penal section dealing with fraud and
defrauding a government office

459
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:59,839
it's up to the county attorney or the
district attorney to file that if they

460
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:05,599
choose
i have yet to see one in any county i've

461
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:10,720
worked in and this is my third county
how extremely rare

462
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:16,800
how can you bring that i mean
so your office can your office report it

463
00:36:14,720 --> 00:36:20,079
if we report it
i have to have proof

464
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:25,040
that that person that claimed
qualification no longer has eligibility

465
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:28,320
i don't have any investigation authority
once i ask you and you sign your name on

466
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,800
the dotted line
that's it

467
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:37,040
well but when you go back and you say
the neighbor behind or whatever

468
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:43,760
and they know he's deceased and he's
still getting 100 disability if we know

469
00:36:42,079 --> 00:36:47,760
he's deceased we will go back and we can
go back five years on that

470
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:50,880
probably the last thing and i almost i
know roy was going to chew me out roy

471
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:53,920
wave at the
this is one of my assistants i'm not

472
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:57,520
going to leave you in the lurch i got
two of those guys at the office that do

473
00:36:55,680 --> 00:37:00,160
more work than i ever did
but

474
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:05,200
one of the most important things you
need for your homeowners to know is even

475
00:37:02,240 --> 00:37:08,400
if the value goes up 20
it's kind of hard to argue when you look

476
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:12,079
at the sales data
if they have a residence homestead

477
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:15,680
exemption that puts a 10 percent
limitation on it for this year

478
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:21,119
and it may go up 10 percent the next
year if the market continues its

479
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:25,760
trajectory which it's projected to do so
the homestead exemption is literally the

480
00:37:23,599 --> 00:37:30,320
protection that a property owner can
afford themselves

481
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:35,440
if they qualified up to two years ago
and don't apply until this year i can

482
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:39,599
give it to them this year and go back to
and dear god don't ever pay anybody to

483
00:37:37,359 --> 00:37:44,400
file that document for you there are
companies that used to charge 50 dollars

484
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:47,680
to do this now they want 15 of the tax
savings

485
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:51,599
well the tax savings isn't by the way
there's an election in may to increase

486
00:37:49,839 --> 00:37:54,880
your homestead exemption from twenty
five thousand to forty thousand you need

487
00:37:53,200 --> 00:38:00,079
to make sure and vote if you don't vote
for anything else vote for that

488
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:05,040
i
option all the way back to two years ago

489
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:08,560
so if you
two for this year i can give it to you

490
00:38:06,320 --> 00:38:13,280
for 21 and i give it to you for 20. but
you have to protest first pardon but you

491
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:18,320
have to protest first right you have to
file your homestead exemption first

492
00:38:15,359 --> 00:38:20,800
separate issue but here's the thing that
50

493
00:38:19,359 --> 00:38:25,119
company that's out there they're out of
plano texas and i did point this out to

494
00:38:23,119 --> 00:38:28,320
the lieutenant governor the speaker and
the governor's office and one of the

495
00:38:27,119 --> 00:38:33,040
things that
we got told is they're not about to file

496
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:37,760
a law that gets in the way of business
doing their business

497
00:38:34,720 --> 00:38:43,520
that's essentially the message i got
and so

498
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:47,440
that 10 percent cap imagine a 10 cap
back in 2020

499
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:50,880
going to 2021 your value probably went
up eight or ten percent and another

500
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:53,680
eight or ten percent and now we're
looking at a 20

501
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:57,760
well over the last three years you're
looking at 40

502
00:38:55,680 --> 00:39:00,800
so if you go back and you take that 40
percent

503
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:04,160
at whatever your tax rates were for that
year for those jurisdictions you're

504
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:07,680
going to owe
at least a thousand fifteen hundred

505
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:11,920
dollars that company and here's the rub
with those guys they actually want you

506
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:18,079
to sign a fiduciary agreement so that
the tax office which i am not the tax

507
00:39:14,240 --> 00:39:22,560
office i just do values and exemptions
will require you to sign a document that

508
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:26,240
that forces the tax office to send your
refund to them and then they'll send you

509
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:30,640
their half
right when they're good and ready too

510
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:34,160
after they've collected interest for
about a year

511
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:38,240
well we'll do that for them for free
we'll we'll we i have a dozen notaries

512
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:42,400
in my office we'll notarize their
documents i don't care if it's va social

513
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:46,960
security or just their homestead we'll
take care of any of it any any exemption

514
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:52,480
that's on the back of that homestead
which is the homestead the over 65 and

515
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:58,400
100 disabled we can go back up to up to
two years plus the current year

516
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,400
any other questions

517
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:03,680
as i say you have my contact information
jennifer is the best way to get a hold

518
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:08,560
of me her number's on the back of there
that's my direct phone number my direct

519
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:11,440
email if you have any other specific
questions or if you want a town hall

520
00:40:10,319 --> 00:40:13,839
back here
we'll be glad to come back out here and

521
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:18,400
do it
all right thank you very very much very

522
00:40:16,079 --> 00:40:22,160
much there was a lot of very informative
information that

523
00:40:20,079 --> 00:40:25,839
our citizens need to need to know about
yes ma'am thank you all for having us

524
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,839
thank you

525
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:31,200
yes that was very good
um

526
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:37,040
6b
2021 annual racial profiling report

527
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,839
uh
chief cardona

528
00:40:52,880 --> 00:41:00,160
good evening council um it's that time
of year again um as i had reported last

529
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:04,480
year we're still using del calming the
carmen consulting

530
00:41:01,839 --> 00:41:09,040
he basically analyzes our our numbers in
reference to our traffic stops

531
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:12,720
and we get this report that basically
say we are in compliance with the sandra

532
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:15,839
bland act
i'm going to read some numbers to you

533
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:18,640
kind of go through this briefly each of
you should have gotten a copy and there

534
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,960
will be a copy
placed

535
00:41:19,599 --> 00:41:24,160
out in the lobby the police department
also out in the lobby of city hall after

536
00:41:22,720 --> 00:41:28,160
today
last year we this kirby police

537
00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:32,400
department conducted at least
2093

538
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:37,040
traffic stops
2084 of those traffic stops

539
00:41:35,119 --> 00:41:41,680
race or ethnicity was not known prior to
stop nine of them were

540
00:41:39,839 --> 00:41:44,720
um
we had

541
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:48,480
nine of those being alaska native
american indian 28 asian pacific

542
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:55,359
islander
587 african-american or black white 349

543
00:41:52,000 --> 00:42:02,560
and hispanic latino 1 120.
the gender of female

544
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:07,599
total 791 the males were 1 302.
the reason for the stops the violation

545
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:12,560
of law for a violation of law was 13
pre-existing knowledge was 55

546
00:42:10,240 --> 00:42:15,560
moving traffic violation total was 1
627.

547
00:42:16,079 --> 00:42:22,440
the vehicle traffic violation total was
398.

548
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:28,079
out of all those was a search conducted
263 of them were yes and 1830 1830 were

549
00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:33,280
no
um the reason for those searches were 42

550
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:40,720
of them were consent to search
uh contraband in plain or in plain view

551
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:46,240
would been nine probable cause was 155.
um inventory total was 50 and incidental

552
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:50,319
arrest was seven
was contraband discovered a total was

553
00:42:48,240 --> 00:42:57,119
151
for yes and 112 for no

554
00:42:54,319 --> 00:43:02,640
did the res finding results in arrest
22 were yes and 129 were no

555
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:09,760
the description of contraband the drugs
total found was 126.

556
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:13,280
zero currency weapon
money

557
00:43:10,720 --> 00:43:19,560
stolen property was two and other
was 19. the result of the stop was 16

558
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:25,920
verbal warnings
1166 written warnings

559
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:31,040
841 citations total written warning and
arrest totaled to 47. citation and

560
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:34,640
arrest was 17
and the arrest total was six on the

561
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:39,359
bottom
arrest based on

562
00:43:36,319 --> 00:43:44,880
the penal code was 34 violation of
traffic law was one city ordinance was

563
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:49,359
zero and outstanding warrant was 35.
was there any physical

564
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:52,000
force used resulting in bodily injury
during the stop now keep in mind there

565
00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,000
are some things that have changed this
year you're going to get a little bit

566
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:58,960
more data they've gotten a little bit
more complex this is one of them

567
00:43:56,720 --> 00:44:02,560
we have had zero physical force used
that resulted in bodily injury in any of

568
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:08,560
our traffic stops or our encounters in
those traffic stops so the no would been

569
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:13,359
total the traffic stop which is 2093.
and that is it

570
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,359
any questions

571
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:21,800
all right guys are there any questions
about the good work thank you chief

572
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:21,800
thank you

573
00:44:24,079 --> 00:44:27,599
moving on to 7a

574
00:44:28,079 --> 00:44:36,200
consideration in action a minute on
regular meeting minutes on march 10

575
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,200
2022.

576
00:44:45,119 --> 00:44:50,880
i have a motion on the table by
councilmember greider and seconded by

577
00:44:48,720 --> 00:44:57,440
councilmember apodaca to accept the
regular meeting minutes of march 10 2022

578
00:44:54,480 --> 00:45:00,240
city secretary please call roll
council numbered writer

579
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:06,640
yes
council member street yes

580
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:13,040
council member martin no
mayor pro tem grant yes

581
00:45:09,119 --> 00:45:17,839
council member apodaca yes
mayor aldrich yes

582
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:24,000
their regular meeting minutes of march
10th 2022 have passed

583
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:29,040
mayor we make a statement after
i mean it's already passed but now

584
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:33,599
the reason i voted no
i believe

585
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:37,599
there was things left out of the minutes
because there was an action made last

586
00:45:35,119 --> 00:45:40,000
week when mr miller was escorted out of
here

587
00:45:38,720 --> 00:45:44,400
and there was nothing in the minutes
about it i think anything is ever on

588
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:50,640
this video should go into the minutes
that's all i got to say thank you

589
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,640
8 a

590
00:45:52,720 --> 00:46:00,200
quarterly financial report period ending
december 31st 2021

591
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:15,440
member street i did email
city manager with my

592
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:18,640
questions after i went through it she
answered almost all of them

593
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:22,560
thank you
um

594
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:26,560
but uh right on the first line it says
this is the financial report for the

595
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:30,560
nine months ending december 31st does it
really mean nine months or does it mean

596
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,560
three months

597
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:37,760
okay
just checking because i thought 25 in

598
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:41,400
nine months is kind of flow
um it's

599
00:46:43,599 --> 00:46:47,119
there were a couple little things in
there

600
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:51,680
that
were explained

601
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:55,680
but it's not as easy to read as it might
be so

602
00:46:53,119 --> 00:47:00,720
maybe in the future
we can work on that

603
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,720
thank you

604
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:06,800
monday is this something that we need to
vote on

605
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:11,000
all right if there's not any more
questions i will entertain a motion

606
00:47:12,500 --> 00:47:15,969
[Music]

607
00:47:16,170 --> 00:47:21,280
[Applause]
may i move to we approve the quarterly

608
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:24,640
finance report period ending december
31st

609
00:47:22,839 --> 00:47:28,640
2021.
we have a motion on the table by council

610
00:47:26,319 --> 00:47:33,040
member martin and seconded by mayor pro
tim grant to accept the quarterly

611
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:40,160
financial report period ending december
31st 2021. city secretary please call

612
00:47:36,559 --> 00:47:45,280
roll council member martin yes
mayor pro tem grant yes

613
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:50,800
council member apodaca yes
uh council member writer yes

614
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:56,480
council member street yes
mayor aldridge yes the quarterly

615
00:47:53,440 --> 00:48:01,040
financial report period ending december
31st 2021 has passed

616
00:47:59,839 --> 00:48:07,280
eight b
quarterly investment report period

617
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:10,559
ending december 31 2021 does anybody
have any questions go ahead

618
00:48:08,720 --> 00:48:15,599
councilmember street
i'm still wondering why we haven't

619
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:19,280
we talked about having an investment
committee or something of that nature

620
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:23,760
back in january
and we still have not gotten one of

621
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:29,760
those groups together with
i don't know some maybe come some

622
00:48:26,720 --> 00:48:34,400
residents as well as members of
finance and and the council to decide

623
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:37,599
where we can put this money that we're
sitting on that's making

624
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:43,920
incredibly no interest
we're talking eight million dollars

625
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:46,240
sitting in tech's pool
that are

626
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:51,520
we're getting a hundred and fifty
dollars for the computer that's crazy

627
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:56,079
um
i have an issue with that and i've had

628
00:48:53,440 --> 00:48:59,280
an issue with it for a long time and it
just keeps getting

629
00:48:57,839 --> 00:49:04,400
ignored
i think the residents deserve to have

630
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:10,160
their money looked after in a better way
and we're not doing anything to do that

631
00:49:08,079 --> 00:49:13,280
so i didn't even look at the numbers on
this because there's not much point

632
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:16,880
right
does anybody else have any other

633
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:21,680
questions
i just i just agree that i mean we've

634
00:49:19,119 --> 00:49:24,559
talked about it when he's right about
getting a committee

635
00:49:26,240 --> 00:49:30,480
right as long as we'll continue to work
on it and moving forward with it i'm

636
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:34,160
good
okay okay can we

637
00:49:32,559 --> 00:49:37,839
make uh
some motion to actually have that happen

638
00:49:36,319 --> 00:49:42,200
or something i don't know what we have
to do we already have yeah

639
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:58,800
thank you if there's not any more
questions i will entertain a motion

640
00:49:56,640 --> 00:50:02,480
mayor i make a motion we
are moved excuse me

641
00:50:00,640 --> 00:50:07,839
i moved we approved the quarterly
investment report period in december

642
00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:07,839
31st 2021.

643
00:50:08,240 --> 00:50:15,040
we have a motion on the table by council
member martin and seconded by

644
00:50:12,559 --> 00:50:20,400
councilmember apodaca to accept the
quarterly investment report period

645
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:24,640
ending december 31st 2021 city secretary
police call roll

646
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:30,480
council member martin yes
mayor pro tem grant yes

647
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:36,640
council member apodaca
council member greiter yes

648
00:50:33,119 --> 00:50:36,640
council member street no

649
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:44,880
mayor aldrich yes
the quarter the quarterly investment

650
00:50:41,119 --> 00:50:50,559
report period ending december 31st 2021
has passed

651
00:50:47,359 --> 00:50:57,520
moving on to 9a discussion and possible
action on the city of kirby

652
00:50:53,200 --> 00:51:01,599
fiscal year 2021 2022 annual report
armstrong vaughn and associates

653
00:51:02,720 --> 00:51:05,359
welcome sir

654
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:14,960
hello i'm mike peralta with armstrong
vaughn and associates and we conducted

655
00:51:11,599 --> 00:51:18,400
your audit for the 2021 fiscal year
um you should have an audit report um up

656
00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:22,400
in front of you
i'm just going to go over a few

657
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:25,119
highlights of the audit not try to take
up too much time

658
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:33,520
so basically what's in a annual
financial report there's the

659
00:51:32,079 --> 00:51:39,599
introduction
the independent audit report the

660
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:39,599
management discussion and analysis

661
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:43,839
the fund financial statements

662
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:50,720
and those just provide a greater detail
for what's contained in

663
00:51:48,839 --> 00:51:55,599
themselves
required supplementary information

664
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:59,119
supplemental individual financial
statements and those just provide

665
00:51:57,359 --> 00:52:02,720
comparative
financial statements for the individual

666
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:07,920
funds
statistical section and this provides

667
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:11,839
different types of statistical data for
informational purposes and then finally

668
00:52:10,319 --> 00:52:15,520
you'll have the compliance section and
that's your single audit

669
00:52:17,359 --> 00:52:23,040
all right for your independent audit
auditor's report it's on page one

670
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:30,000
the operators that we follow
generally accepted auditing standards

671
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:35,119
and government government auditing
standards for the single audit portion

672
00:52:33,359 --> 00:52:38,480
the purpose is to form an independent
opinion on whether the financial

673
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:44,760
statements are
presented in accordance with generally

674
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:44,760
accepted accounting principles

675
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:53,920
uh this year the opinion that we had
overall was an adverse opinion

676
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:56,800
um and that's basically saying that we
didn't have

677
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:59,920
everything for the scope and that's just
because we didn't have the kirby senior

678
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:02,960
center included in your financial
statements

679
00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:07,119
as far as the city we did give you an
unmodified opinion and that's the best

680
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:10,160
opinion that you can get
basically saying that the financial

681
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:14,400
statements are materially correct as
they're stated

682
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:18,480
as far as the schedule of expenditures
for federal awards we also gave you an

683
00:53:16,720 --> 00:53:24,160
unmodified opinion stating that you are
in compliance with the requirements

684
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:27,960
that the government requires for
using federal funds

685
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:36,240
um in the md a section there's a few uh
parts of that there's financial

686
00:53:33,599 --> 00:53:41,520
highlights overview financial statements
uh a touch on government-wide financial

687
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:45,119
analysis uh financial analysis of the
city's funds

688
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:50,559
budgetary highlights capital assets and
debt and then requests for information

689
00:53:48,319 --> 00:53:56,559
uh so just
one portion that i was going to go over

690
00:53:52,240 --> 00:54:00,640
in the mdna on page seven and eight
or the government-wide financial

691
00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:06,000
statements for governmental activities
the assets of the city exceeded its

692
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:11,040
liabilities by 11.5 million
at september 30th 2021

693
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:15,520
and then your net position actually
increased by 1.5 million from the prior

694
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:19,440
year primarily due to revenues and
expenses remaining similar to the prior

695
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:23,359
year which had the similar outcome in
the previous year

696
00:54:21,359 --> 00:54:27,040
for business type activities which is
your water and sewer fund

697
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:32,160
your assets
exceeded its liabilities by 6 million at

698
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:36,079
september 30th 2021
and the unrestricted net position

699
00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:41,799
decreased by 29 000
to 2.4 million at september 30th 2021.

700
00:54:43,359 --> 00:54:46,960
and then on page 14

701
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:54,400
um the highlight here is on your
government-wide financial statements

702
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:59,920
is your your net position
your net position for governmental

703
00:54:56,079 --> 00:55:04,880
activities was 11.5 million of that 1.7
was unrestricted

704
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:10,480
for business type activities your
net position was 6 million and the

705
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:18,280
unrestricted portion was 2.3 million
the total being 17.5 net position with

706
00:55:14,319 --> 00:55:18,280
4.1 being unrestricted

707
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:29,040
all right then your fun statements on
page 17

708
00:55:26,240 --> 00:55:33,200
the general fund balance at herein
of

709
00:55:29,839 --> 00:55:36,480
2021 was 2.7 million and the combined
fund balance of all funds was 9.4

710
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:40,880
million
your unassigned fund balance for the

711
00:55:38,240 --> 00:55:44,720
general fund was 2.4 million or
approximately

712
00:55:42,319 --> 00:55:49,280
6.8 months of the average operating
expenditures

713
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:53,440
the government finance officers
association recommends that there be at

714
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:56,799
least three months to cover three so how
many months do we have now you're six

715
00:55:55,280 --> 00:56:03,680
point eight
six months yes six point eight

716
00:55:59,839 --> 00:56:07,359
thank you um and then
85 000

717
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:10,400
and the combined fund balance decreased
by

718
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:14,319
728 000
mainly due to

719
00:56:12,559 --> 00:56:18,880
that should say increase
mainly due to the decreased capital

720
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:21,520
outlay in the general fund
in the current year

721
00:56:24,079 --> 00:56:31,839
for your
page 17 your major fund general fund

722
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:36,799
balance
the fund balance there was 2.7 million

723
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:43,440
again of that the unassigned was 2.4
million

724
00:56:38,079 --> 00:56:48,480
your debt service fund balance was 189
uh capital projects fund that fund

725
00:56:46,079 --> 00:56:56,119
balance was 6.4 million
crime control was 109 000 and again your

726
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:56,119
total was 9.4 million

727
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:06,079
for your business type activities your
waterworks your fund net position

728
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:10,559
decreased by thirty four thousand um
this includes the expenses include

729
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:13,839
transfers to the funds and the amount of
six hundred thousand dollars and that

730
00:57:12,079 --> 00:57:16,480
was the transfer in lieu of taxes to the
general fund

731
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:24,400
right for the required supplement
supplementary information um i wanted to

732
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:29,440
touch on the general fund budget and
actual analysis

733
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:33,440
so the main keys here i was going to go
over revenue expenses and then the the

734
00:57:31,599 --> 00:57:41,839
net increase decreased
so your actual revenue was 5.4 million

735
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:41,839
and y'all budgeted 5.3 so y'all actually

736
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:48,480
did better than you expected by thirty
eight thousand dollars in for the year

737
00:57:52,960 --> 00:58:02,400
as far as total expenses y'all had
actual total expenses of 5.2 million

738
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:04,440
um and you budgeted 5.5 so you actually
spent

739
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:09,839
about
292 000 less than you were expected to

740
00:58:07,359 --> 00:58:09,839
spend

741
00:58:11,920 --> 00:58:19,920
um so this brings your net change in
fund balance

742
00:58:16,079 --> 00:58:26,720
you had an actual of 584 000
and y'all were expecting to generate 421

743
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:30,640
so y'all actually generated 163 000
more than you are expecting to this year

744
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:38,240
all right and the last section that i
wanted to touch on was the compliance

745
00:58:35,680 --> 00:58:41,200
section of page 104 this is your single
audit

746
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:45,599
a single audit gets put in place to
determine if an entity is in compliance

747
00:58:43,359 --> 00:58:49,599
with specified requirements when
expending federal funds and to determine

748
00:58:47,839 --> 00:58:53,119
if there are deficiencies in internal
controls

749
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:57,839
during our procedures in the current
year the single audit resulted in an

750
00:58:55,680 --> 00:59:01,119
unmodified opinion in relation to the
financial statements

751
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:04,240
basically saying that city was in
compliance with the specified

752
00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:08,720
requirements and there were no
deficiencies noted in internal controls

753
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:16,160
and that was all i was going to go over
do you guys have any questions okay are

754
00:59:14,319 --> 00:59:21,280
there any questions
councilmember street

755
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:28,880
i understand that we we don't get to
approve your audit we can accept it

756
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:32,960
but since we got this this afternoon
i don't think we should do either today

757
00:59:31,599 --> 00:59:38,240
because i haven't had a chance to look
at you

758
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:43,520
there's over 100 pages of information
and the brief synopsis was nice and i'd

759
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:46,559
like to have your highlights so i can
come you know

760
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:50,240
look at them but
and if you do have questions after you

761
00:59:48,319 --> 00:59:54,720
review um you can get with monique and
tina and they can forward it to me and i

762
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:59,280
can enjoy that would be great thank you
okay are there any more discussion

763
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:04,400
questions
i will entertain a motion

764
01:00:01,119 --> 01:00:08,079
vera make emotionally accept the audit
second

765
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:11,680
i have a motion on the table but i
haven't even looked at it

766
01:00:09,920 --> 01:00:15,839
we're just accepting it we're not voting
on reproving it uh i need order

767
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:21,760
please reserve your comments
we have a motion on the table by mayor

768
01:00:20,079 --> 01:00:26,839
pro 10 grant
and seconded by council member apodaca

769
01:00:24,319 --> 01:00:33,520
to accept
the audit audit i got it i'm sorry

770
01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:40,319
the audit
for the city of kirby fiscal year 2021

771
01:00:37,119 --> 01:00:44,640
2020 to 2021 audit report armstrong
vaughn and associates city secretary

772
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:50,640
please call roll
mayor pro tem grant yes

773
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:57,119
council member apodaca yes
council member greider yes

774
01:00:53,440 --> 01:01:01,359
councilmember street no
council member martin yes

775
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:04,960
mayor aldrich
yes

776
01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:10,559
the audit report for fiscal year 2020
through 2021 audit report from armstrong

777
01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:13,760
vaughan and associates has passed
thank you sir thank y'all

778
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:22,599
b
discussion and possible action on

779
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:22,599
ordinance number o 2022-909

780
01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:29,359
amending zoning ordinance of the city of
kirby texas to grant specific use permit

781
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:36,599
number 2022
o28 for use of the property located at

782
01:01:33,599 --> 01:01:36,599
cb5941a

783
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:47,200
block 2 lot 6 otherwise known as 130
edlin street kirby texas 78219

784
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:51,200
which is zoned commercial office in
retail c2

785
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:56,880
district to be used as a single family
dwelling this is the second reading

786
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:56,880
i will entertain a motion

787
01:01:58,799 --> 01:02:04,359
mayor i moved we accept ordinance number
0-2022-909

788
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:11,280
amending the zoning ordinance of the
city of kirby to grant pacific use

789
01:02:09,200 --> 01:02:14,280
permanent number
2022-028

790
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:18,880
for the use of the property located at

791
01:02:19,039 --> 01:02:24,960
one cb959418 block two lot six
otherwise known as one thirty ellen

792
01:02:23,039 --> 01:02:28,200
street kirby texas
uh 78219

793
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:33,039
which was owned commercial office in
retinal

794
01:02:31,039 --> 01:02:37,520
rental c2 district to be used as a
single dwelling family

795
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:37,520
this is the second reading

796
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:43,839
okay
we have a motion on the table by council

797
01:02:41,359 --> 01:02:50,160
member martin seconded by council member
greider to accept the action

798
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:57,280
uh amending zoning ordinance of the city
of kirby texas to grant specific use

799
01:02:52,319 --> 01:03:05,760
permit oh 2022 020 through 22028
for for the property located at cb

800
01:03:00,839 --> 01:03:11,039
5941a block 2 lot 6 otherwise known as
130 edlin street kirby texas city

801
01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:17,559
secretary please call roll
council member martin yes

802
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:17,559
mayor pro tem grant

803
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:20,000
yes

804
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:28,880
council member apodaca yes
council member greiter yes

805
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:32,480
council member street yes
mayor aldridge no

806
01:03:33,039 --> 01:03:36,559
the zoning ordinance for

807
01:03:37,039 --> 01:03:40,760
hermit o 2022-028

808
01:03:41,119 --> 01:03:48,720
for the property
otherwise known as 130 edlin street

809
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:48,720
kirby texas has passed

810
01:03:49,119 --> 01:03:55,960
9c discussion and possible action on
ordinance number o 2022-910

811
01:03:56,319 --> 01:04:05,119
amending zoning ordinance of the city of
kirby texas to grant specific use permit

812
01:04:01,839 --> 01:04:12,559
number 2022-029
for the property located at cb 5941

813
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:17,359
block one lot e
45 feet of

814
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:23,599
south half of five
otherwise known as 433

815
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:29,200
edlin kirby texas 78219 which is zoned
commercial office and retail c2 district

816
01:04:27,119 --> 01:04:34,160
to be used as a single family dwelling
this is the second reading i will

817
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:34,160
entertain a motion

818
01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:42,319
mayor i moved we approve ordinance
number zero two

819
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:50,480
zero two two dash nine one zero many the
zoning ordinance and city of kirby to

820
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:55,280
grant pacific use permanent number
twenty

821
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:59,520
two zero two two 22029 for the purpose
located at

822
01:04:56,839 --> 01:05:01,520
cb5941 block one
lot

823
01:05:00,319 --> 01:05:07,200
e
45 foot or south half of five otherwise

824
01:05:05,119 --> 01:05:10,160
known as 433 inland
kirby texas

825
01:05:08,559 --> 01:05:17,119
which is own commercial office and
retail c2 district tv is a single

826
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:17,119
dwelling family this is a second reading

827
01:05:17,599 --> 01:05:22,720
second
we have a motion on the table by council

828
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:31,160
member martin and seconded by
councilmember apodaca to accept the perm

829
01:05:26,319 --> 01:05:31,160
the special use permit number 2022-029

830
01:05:31,359 --> 01:05:42,559
for the property located at cb 5941
block one lot e 45 feet of south half of

831
01:05:40,079 --> 01:05:50,400
five otherwise known as
433 edlin kirby texas 78219 city

832
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:50,400
secretary please call roll

833
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:06,240
yes
yes

834
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:11,599
council member apodaca yes
councilmember greiter yes

835
01:06:09,119 --> 01:06:14,559
councilmember street yes
mayor aldrich

836
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:17,039
nope
this

837
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:22,359
specific permit
number oh

838
01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:30,319
2022-029 for the property located at cb
5941 block one lot e 45 feet of south

839
01:06:27,039 --> 01:06:38,640
half of five otherwise known as 433
edlund kirby texas 78219 has passed

840
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:43,520
moving on to 9 d
discussion and possible action on

841
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:43,520
ordinance number o

842
01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:50,280
repealing 2022-911
30.01

843
01:06:49,119 --> 01:06:53,839
through
30.10

844
01:06:51,839 --> 01:06:57,680
of the code of ordinance of the city of
kirby relating

845
01:06:55,440 --> 01:07:02,319
to the city council and its rules and
procedures and rules for citizens

846
01:06:59,920 --> 01:07:06,599
participation at meetings and adopting
new sections 30.01-30.10

847
01:07:07,599 --> 01:07:15,760
of the code of ordinance of the city of
kirby relating to these rules and

848
01:07:13,119 --> 01:07:20,720
procedures for the city council and
rules for the citizen participation at

849
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:25,200
city council meetings and establish an
effective date this is the first reading

850
01:07:26,839 --> 01:07:35,440
discussion council member street
i have several questions about the

851
01:07:32,559 --> 01:07:39,359
write-up that we got
um

852
01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:43,280
should i just go through them and see if
i can get an answer on that on each one

853
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:48,359
okay thank you
okay on

854
01:07:45,359 --> 01:07:48,359
3.30.04

855
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:56,240
where it says that we get
the uh

856
01:07:54,000 --> 01:07:59,119
we're if a council member has a question
regarding an agenda item the council

857
01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:02,079
member should contact the city manager
no later than two days prior to the

858
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:05,359
schedule of the meeting of for
clarification

859
01:08:03,599 --> 01:08:09,760
that gives us
24 hours since we get it on monday night

860
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:15,480
so
if i have a question i have to email you

861
01:08:11,599 --> 01:08:15,480
by tuesday afternoon

862
01:08:17,510 --> 01:08:20,600
[Music]

863
01:08:24,239 --> 01:08:28,880
i have to have time to read 100 pages
because sometimes that's how many there

864
01:08:27,839 --> 01:08:31,880
are
um

865
01:08:42,460 --> 01:08:48,400
[Music]
okay well i'm not sure why it's included

866
01:08:45,759 --> 01:08:48,400
there but okay

867
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:54,080
okay
um

868
01:08:52,400 --> 01:08:57,080
on three
0.07

869
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:08,159
um this is for decorum and debate
this has not really changed i'm just

870
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:12,719
hoping that everybody read through it
on

871
01:09:10,319 --> 01:09:17,440
30.10
citizen participation citizen

872
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:20,799
participation at meetings
on b

873
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:25,679
it says
that we have changed the time limit to

874
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:30,640
five minutes yay
but it also says all persons are only

875
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:35,520
allowed to speak once
and they're timeline

876
01:09:32,799 --> 01:09:40,080
usual to accumulate their speaking time
now does that mean once in the entire

877
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:43,600
meeting or does that mean just once
during the citizen participation

878
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:52,480
okay that's why i'm asking it says
doesn't specify that

879
01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:55,600
so i'm trying to clarify so we know
they can speak during citizen

880
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:59,360
participation and then they can also
sign up to speak on an agenda item it

881
01:09:57,679 --> 01:10:04,000
should be either or
okay

882
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:07,760
can we have it worded that way
so that it's clear

883
01:10:06,239 --> 01:10:12,239
because it makes it sound like they
can't speak any other time right okay

884
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:17,000
yes

885
01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:25,120
okay
council member street i'm sorry okay

886
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:29,520
um on d
of that same section

887
01:10:27,679 --> 01:10:33,360
uh speaking from the podium the speaker
may shall remain at the podium until all

888
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:38,320
council questions have been answered and
the mayor has dismissed the speaker

889
01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:41,920
so we can actually speak to them when
they're

890
01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:45,640
speaking during citizen participation
but that's what this says

891
01:10:52,960 --> 01:10:55,199
sure

892
01:10:56,800 --> 01:11:02,320
okay because i was like yay
we talked to them okay

893
01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:05,920
um
h

894
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:09,760
citizens um
citizen participation

895
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:14,159
says that all citizen comments will be
heard during the citizens participation

896
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:17,360
portion of the meeting
and shall be limited to five minutes per

897
01:11:15,920 --> 01:11:22,960
speaker
that's all that's an all-inclusive word

898
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:27,520
it doesn't say that they can speak
during the agenda items which is why i

899
01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:31,280
gave you a copy of the texas open
meetings act part where it says they can

900
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:34,239
speak during the agenda
item as well

901
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:37,679
with our state attorney that that
section does clearly say

902
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:45,600
public who um the body regarding an
agenda item to address the body

903
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:47,760
regarding the item at the meeting
before

904
01:11:46,719 --> 01:11:51,760
or
during the consideration so it's

905
01:11:49,840 --> 01:11:54,960
optional okay that was something we had
talked about before and that

906
01:11:59,440 --> 01:12:06,800
but this doesn't say that
it says all citizen comments will be

907
01:12:04,800 --> 01:12:12,080
heard during the citizens
portion of the meeting

908
01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:12,080
so we need to adjust that

909
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:16,400
i gotcha

910
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:22,520
so that was thrown out there

911
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:30,719
so what was the consensus that we only
speak during citizen participation yes

912
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:35,780
but the state's law says that doesn't
have to either right

913
01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:38,970
well okay
[Music]

914
01:12:46,480 --> 01:12:51,360
so
should we

915
01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:54,800
talk about having
somewhat we want to change that's what

916
01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:57,840
we changed it to
well

917
01:12:56,320 --> 01:13:01,840
i think that
we probably need to have a discussion on

918
01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:06,000
um
i mean well i think that if somebody

919
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:09,199
signs up to speak
they either

920
01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:12,320
speak at the front at the first or they
speak at the agenda that's fine it's

921
01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:17,199
either or
but not both right okay but that's not

922
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:21,840
what this says i know but we can get we
can change the wording so i i i think

923
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:27,600
that that would be good to change the
wording yes so do we have a consensus

924
01:13:24,719 --> 01:13:30,320
what does everyone think
as long as they've been like they've

925
01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:34,000
been doing it they've been signing up
for each agenda item

926
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:37,600
you know
that's good and if they raise their hand

927
01:13:36,239 --> 01:13:42,400
about a question and you give them
permission or we vote on it or whatever

928
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:45,760
i'm good with it it doesn't matter to me
how you write it or whatever

929
01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:49,920
you know i just want to make sure she
has control she has control of the

930
01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:52,640
meeting yes and
that's where we're going to go i just

931
01:13:51,120 --> 01:13:56,000
want to make sure it's not in concrete
that they can't do it a certain

932
01:13:57,080 --> 01:14:03,440
[Music]
during way citizen's participation

933
01:14:01,440 --> 01:14:06,239
portion of the meeting and you have five
minutes

934
01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:10,880
right you wanted to read differently you
have to change that

935
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:10,880
let's get it to redifference

936
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:17,760
we're here for the citizens to hear what
their concerns

937
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:22,320
that's that's what i'm saying
i don't have an issue with the with the

938
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:29,760
citizen waiting until that agenda item
to speak on it sure

939
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:34,400
but not both correct that's fine
that's why it's either or okay so from

940
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:38,400
what i'm hearing from all of us
we have a consensus that we all agree to

941
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:43,520
the same thing
it's the either citizen's participation

942
01:14:40,719 --> 01:14:47,600
section or the agenda yes ma'am so we
can put that in there so that it's not

943
01:14:45,440 --> 01:14:52,880
like this where it's only citizen
participation right okay but the citizen

944
01:14:50,159 --> 01:14:56,400
can sign up during citizen participation
and they could talk about something

945
01:14:54,719 --> 01:15:00,560
totally different and then sign up for
an agenda item right and discuss that

946
01:14:58,719 --> 01:15:03,840
then at that time
no wait like they have two separate

947
01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:07,760
subjects they need to discuss like they
come to participation

948
01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:12,000
they say what they have to sign up two
times okay got it yes okay

949
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:16,080
i just want to make sure as long as
we're not limiting them on what they so

950
01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:19,000
they can each agenda item if they need
to speak on it they can right is that

951
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:24,280
what we're
saying allows someone to sign up

952
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:38,960
we've been

953
01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:12,080
option right but what this language
right here is proposing is that the

954
01:16:09,520 --> 01:16:16,800
citizen would only have the option
to speak absolute participation if you

955
01:16:15,199 --> 01:16:21,360
want us to leave it the way we currently
do it we will put that language back

956
01:16:19,199 --> 01:16:25,280
we didn't touch this part because
we've had this on three agendas nobody

957
01:16:23,199 --> 01:16:29,440
asked us to change that part but we can
change that today if that's what you're

958
01:16:27,440 --> 01:16:34,000
asking believe it the way we currently
do it which is give them the option

959
01:16:32,239 --> 01:16:36,880
leave it leave it the way we currently
do it

960
01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:42,560
right they need an option to speak
during the agenda item as well yes

961
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:42,560
i agree with that

962
01:16:42,719 --> 01:16:50,000
thank you and the last thing
is on k

963
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:54,239
for the camera recordings
um where it's it says uh

964
01:16:54,320 --> 01:16:59,600
persons recording meetings shall do the
recording from the first row on the

965
01:16:57,600 --> 01:17:02,239
right side of the audience area of the
city council chambers being the area

966
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:04,880
behind the railings separating the
audience area from the area where

967
01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:08,159
members of city council or commissioners
seated

968
01:17:06,239 --> 01:17:12,159
fine but i think we need to stipulate
that that's not regarding someone with a

969
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:18,080
cell phone that's sitting in their chair
right that's just for equipment like a

970
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:18,080
tripod you are correct okay

971
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:26,159
if if we're having a pinning and we've
got 15 people with their cell phones out

972
01:17:24,960 --> 01:17:28,840
they can sit over there they all got to
sit over here and then they're going to

973
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:34,239
be behind everybody
so that would preclude them being able

974
01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:37,120
to do that okay is everybody up here in
agreement with that

975
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:42,239
so we make it apply to like equipment

976
01:17:42,480 --> 01:17:51,840
okay okay monique let's make that change
thank you that's all i have

977
01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:51,840
all right

978
01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:57,960
thank you are there any other issues

979
01:18:05,679 --> 01:18:14,400
yes sir mr miller
[Music]

980
01:18:11,199 --> 01:18:14,400
you go right ahead sir

981
01:18:16,719 --> 01:18:23,440
jack miller 4839 dick gordon uh here in
kirby

982
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:29,199
um so on the uh
thank you guys for

983
01:18:25,280 --> 01:18:32,880
on the agenda item for the uh winda talk
it appears to me my position is that you

984
01:18:31,040 --> 01:18:38,239
guys are working very hard
and what i just heard i had some

985
01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:42,640
very very bad concerns reading the
ordinance but uh listening to you folks

986
01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:46,719
i believe that you guys are on the right
path so i have nothing to say about that

987
01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:49,280
thank you for
all of your back and forth about that

988
01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:55,120
and
uh but as far as the equipment goes so

989
01:18:51,840 --> 01:19:00,239
this is my position and uh so
while i believe that uh

990
01:18:57,280 --> 01:19:05,199
it's reasonable to tell me that my
tripod bags and things like that need to

991
01:19:03,600 --> 01:19:09,120
be somewhere
while i think that's in a reasonable

992
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:12,239
restriction for me
what i don't

993
01:19:10,719 --> 01:19:17,040
agree with and what i would have a
serious problem with is that

994
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:21,920
if i decide to take my camera for
instance off of that tripod and

995
01:19:19,199 --> 01:19:25,360
reposition myself somewhere in the room
where it's not interfering with anybody

996
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:29,120
let's say i want to go back and i want
to stand in that corner because the

997
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:32,960
chief is having a conversation with
someone and i want to catch that

998
01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:37,199
it's my position that under turner
versus driver which is a fifth circuit

999
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:42,080
ruling that my group took to the fifth
circuit and won

1000
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:45,760
it established my right to film a
government official in the performance

1001
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:50,320
of their duties and to interfere with
that would be a violation of that

1002
01:19:47,679 --> 01:19:54,239
granted right by the fifth circuit so if
i were to remove my camera from there

1003
01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:57,520
and walk to the back to catch that
conversation that's exactly what i would

1004
01:19:56,000 --> 01:20:00,080
be doing i would be filming a public
official

1005
01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:02,800
or if you're having a conversation
somewhere in here while the meeting is

1006
01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:06,080
going on
and so my position at that point would

1007
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:08,159
be if you were to say hey i can't do
that

1008
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:11,360
my position would be that you would be
interfering with my rights as

1009
01:20:09,440 --> 01:20:14,719
established underturner versus driver
that would be my only issue and i just

1010
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:19,199
wanted to bring that to your attention
for consideration before you make that

1011
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:23,040
final as far as restricting where a
person can take a cell phone or

1012
01:20:21,679 --> 01:20:26,800
you know
like i said tripods camera bags they can

1013
01:20:25,440 --> 01:20:29,520
be interfering with a lot of people
especially if i have them right here in

1014
01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:33,120
the middle where everybody's walking
it's reasonable to say you got to take

1015
01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:37,360
them over there but definitely not just
you know moving around i have a gopro

1016
01:20:35,199 --> 01:20:40,480
here it records i can literally walk
around and catch very great video with

1017
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:43,040
this
and you wouldn't even know

1018
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:46,400
and i don't think you should be
restricting that as long as i'm not

1019
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:51,040
standing in front of anybody
uh interfering with their ability to see

1020
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:53,360
or something like that so thank you
thank you

1021
01:20:54,719 --> 01:21:02,639
moving on to 9e
discussion and possible action to accept

1022
01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:07,040
alexandra ebert's resignation from the
economic development committee

1023
01:21:05,280 --> 01:21:12,000
i will entertain a motion
i move that we accept alexandra ebert's

1024
01:21:10,320 --> 01:21:16,639
resignation from the economic
development committee okay

1025
01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:19,760
we have a motion on the table by council
ministry

1026
01:21:17,679 --> 01:21:23,760
and seconded by council member apodaca
to accept

1027
01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:27,679
the resignation of alexandra ebert the
resignation from the economic

1028
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:32,880
development committee city secretary
please go rule

1029
01:21:29,679 --> 01:21:39,120
council member street yes
council member martin yes

1030
01:21:36,159 --> 01:21:45,120
mayor pro tem grant yes
council member apodaca yes councilmember

1031
01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:49,840
greiter yes
mayor aldridge yes the resignation for

1032
01:21:48,239 --> 01:21:54,159
alexander ebert
from the economic development

1033
01:21:52,400 --> 01:21:58,400
economic development committee has
passed

1034
01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:58,400
9 f

1035
01:21:58,639 --> 01:22:04,840
discussion and possible action on
resolution number r 2022-745

1036
01:22:05,280 --> 01:22:13,120
a resolution authorizing the city
manager to submit an application for

1037
01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:18,480
funding for the program year
2022 allocating

1038
01:22:15,679 --> 01:22:27,600
allocation of bexar county's community
development block grant cdbg program

1039
01:22:23,199 --> 01:22:27,600
do we have any discussion from council

1040
01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:31,520
we're
sorry

1041
01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:41,840
go ahead council member street we're
applying for

1042
01:22:38,880 --> 01:22:46,320
how three hundred thousand no so
that's what we need to decide so the

1043
01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:51,159
next streak um on our street assessment
plan that city

1044
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:51,159
people is

1045
01:22:53,360 --> 01:23:01,440
and um
we have preliminary cost estimates from

1046
01:22:57,600 --> 01:23:04,480
our engineers on both the street top and
the score rehab

1047
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:11,679
and so we need to determine
which of those projects

1048
01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:15,920
what combination of both we want to
apply for and how much

1049
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:15,920
the

1050
01:23:19,199 --> 01:23:24,199
to submit applications

1051
01:23:21,440 --> 01:23:28,400
um the total funding that bear county is
considering is 2.3 billion

1052
01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:31,400
so out of 63 billion that's going to be
divided

1053
01:23:46,960 --> 01:23:52,320
that's unrealistic to ask for that
amount knowing that

1054
01:23:50,239 --> 01:23:56,159
a free weight is available
um but we've learned i'm not going to

1055
01:23:54,719 --> 01:24:00,639
support in our current public works
worker has been taking us an additional

1056
01:23:58,800 --> 01:24:05,440
step by having the sewer
televised before we reconstructed the

1057
01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:10,650
streets so it really makes no sense
without the other

1058
01:24:07,440 --> 01:24:13,840
so we need to decide
[Music]

1059
01:24:16,800 --> 01:24:24,159
okay so right now we are only
voting on

1060
01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:26,960
giving the city manager approval to
apply for these grants for the year is

1061
01:24:25,679 --> 01:24:32,159
that correct
yes but we have to specify what we want

1062
01:24:29,679 --> 01:24:32,159
it for

1063
01:24:33,199 --> 01:24:35,280
you

1064
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:42,639
but we can't do both
you can but

1065
01:24:41,679 --> 01:24:46,480
they're not going to give us all that
money amount of money you got to pick

1066
01:24:44,159 --> 01:24:52,560
one or the other um so one thing we
could do is you could decide that if

1067
01:24:48,560 --> 01:24:59,120
we're funded we fund the sewer in our
water and student budget and then just a

1068
01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:59,120
flood from the street which is a 258

1069
01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:20,719
i would say we applied for the street
i was going to ask we can do arpa money

1070
01:25:16,639 --> 01:25:27,480
next year for this correct for the sewer
yes if there's any left we get another

1071
01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:27,480
million point one right

1072
01:25:39,199 --> 01:25:45,040
okay
okay well i

1073
01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:49,440
i think
that we should

1074
01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:53,679
use arpa for this sewer
and apply for the street

1075
01:25:52,480 --> 01:25:58,080
barring
we get the zipper machine but this this

1076
01:25:55,840 --> 01:26:04,159
will be qualified for
the cdbg we can use that for this street

1077
01:26:02,400 --> 01:26:09,440
and then
maybe when you get the zipper we can do

1078
01:26:05,440 --> 01:26:14,400
the adjacent street to it
does anybody else have any questions or

1079
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:14,400
discussion

1080
01:26:14,719 --> 01:26:20,159
we just we definitely need to apply for
the grant

1081
01:26:17,760 --> 01:26:24,080
or the streets
for the street yeah go to the street

1082
01:26:22,080 --> 01:26:28,560
because you got a 20 match in there but
it's still better to go ahead

1083
01:26:26,159 --> 01:26:34,000
right exactly and it's a lesser amount
too

1084
01:26:30,639 --> 01:26:38,639
all right i will entertain a motion
i move that we apply

1085
01:26:37,280 --> 01:26:44,800
for the
2022

1086
01:26:40,639 --> 01:26:48,480
fair county cdbg grant program for
fixing the

1087
01:26:46,159 --> 01:26:54,719
foxcross
street portion

1088
01:26:51,360 --> 01:26:57,760
that we were handed
give a second

1089
01:26:56,719 --> 01:27:02,000
second
i have a motion on the table by council

1090
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:05,840
member street and seconded by
councilmember apodaca to

1091
01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:12,639
allow the city mana authorizing the city
manager to submit an application for

1092
01:27:11,199 --> 01:27:18,239
funding
for the program year 2022 allocate

1093
01:27:16,159 --> 01:27:22,320
allocation of bear county's community
development program cdbg

1094
01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:26,159
for
fox the

1095
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:28,639
street fox cross city secretary please
call roll

1096
01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:37,199
council member street yes
council member martin yes

1097
01:27:34,480 --> 01:27:43,520
mayor pro tem grant yes
council member apodaca yes

1098
01:27:40,080 --> 01:27:50,600
council member writer yes
mayor aldrich yes resolution r number

1099
01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:50,600
2022-745

1100
01:27:50,639 --> 01:27:57,440
allowing the city manager to submit an
application for funding for the year

1101
01:27:54,800 --> 01:28:00,400
program 2022 allocating their county
community

1102
01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:08,159
bexar county communities development
block grant cbdg program has passed

1103
01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:12,000
9g discussion impossible action to
approve

1104
01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:16,639
the cost of additional work on a new
pump for well site number three

1105
01:28:20,639 --> 01:28:25,440
okay
okay

1106
01:28:23,440 --> 01:28:30,400
do we have any uh questions or
discussion on council member street

1107
01:28:28,719 --> 01:28:35,600
okay
there was so much information to look at

1108
01:28:33,520 --> 01:28:39,520
it took me a while
i

1109
01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:43,679
got the original quote from the city
manager this afternoon

1110
01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:50,400
to look at
what we were originally told was going

1111
01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:55,600
to be 129 000.
well they gave us these two

1112
01:28:54,320 --> 01:29:02,800
invoices
that total 186 000

1113
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:06,800
we started this last spring
it was april 8th i believe that they got

1114
01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:12,960
voted on
they said it would be done around june

1115
01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:17,679
i asked the city manager what year in
june she meant

1116
01:29:14,639 --> 01:29:20,880
they meant because it's been a year next
week

1117
01:29:18,639 --> 01:29:24,400
that we voted on this to get done and
they're still not done

1118
01:29:23,520 --> 01:29:28,320
so
that being said

1119
01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:34,400
they're now
with these increases and in the

1120
01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:39,520
in the paperwork
it said that there would be a

1121
01:29:37,679 --> 01:29:43,760
small percentage
possibly of an increase

1122
01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:47,120
over time
which is fine but

1123
01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:52,239
on
item 11 from the original it's up 12

1124
01:29:50,480 --> 01:29:55,199
percent
on the the three seven invoice that we

1125
01:29:54,239 --> 01:30:00,080
got
it's up to twenty three thousand instead

1126
01:29:57,679 --> 01:30:03,520
of it was twenty point twenty thousand
five hundred there

1127
01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:07,280
um
the the issue that they were talking

1128
01:30:05,199 --> 01:30:11,679
about that would cost more was the
charging of

1129
01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:16,239
the hourly rate
well the hourly rate didn't change

1130
01:30:14,639 --> 01:30:20,480
what did change
was them charging us ninety thousand

1131
01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:24,080
dollars
instead of sixty three thousand dollars

1132
01:30:23,280 --> 01:30:30,400
for
the casing

1133
01:30:26,239 --> 01:30:30,400
that's a forty four percent increase

1134
01:30:32,239 --> 01:30:36,320
proposal that they have listed that's 20

1135
01:30:36,639 --> 01:30:40,080
so i'm wondering

1136
01:30:40,639 --> 01:30:46,639
ability if we let them charge us that
much more money for something they can't

1137
01:30:45,199 --> 01:30:49,120
justify
or at least they're not justifying it

1138
01:30:48,239 --> 01:30:53,280
yet
i guess we need to bring it up to them i

1139
01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:53,280
don't know

1140
01:30:53,520 --> 01:30:57,760
why there's a big change in that one
item

1141
01:30:58,880 --> 01:31:02,199
do we know

1142
01:31:04,560 --> 01:31:11,760
i'm talking about
it is

1143
01:31:09,360 --> 01:31:15,120
where is it
there's so many pages here

1144
01:31:13,679 --> 01:31:21,120
this additional
original quote no that's not it

1145
01:31:17,920 --> 01:31:27,760
it's i it was originally item five
on the quote and it is on the second

1146
01:31:23,600 --> 01:31:30,960
page with that's 97 350. it's the 1228
invoice

1147
01:31:29,199 --> 01:31:34,960
for ninety thousand seven hundred and
fifty dollars it is exactly word for

1148
01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:39,679
word the same thing that was number five
on the original invoice or the original

1149
01:31:37,280 --> 01:31:39,679
quote

1150
01:31:39,840 --> 01:31:45,840
but it's sixty three thousand dollars on
there so i don't know what's more

1151
01:31:43,280 --> 01:31:45,840
expensive

1152
01:31:48,719 --> 01:31:55,280
i don't know
it's not specified in here why it's more

1153
01:31:52,719 --> 01:31:55,280
expensive

1154
01:31:56,639 --> 01:32:01,040
so it'd be nice if they could maybe
explain

1155
01:32:01,520 --> 01:32:04,480
yes sorry

1156
01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:08,000
see

1157
01:32:09,120 --> 01:32:13,840
is there any way we can go back to them
and ask them that

1158
01:32:14,719 --> 01:32:21,280
councilmember martin i think it's i
think it's right here the original quote

1159
01:32:19,280 --> 01:32:28,760
was 63 000
and the additional add-ons that they

1160
01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:28,760
want to charge us is 24 402.61

1161
01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:33,280
and
what i see

1162
01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:38,239
here is for labor
more welding another video

1163
01:32:36,400 --> 01:32:41,600
and it's set up it's stuff that they've
already included no that's on the it's

1164
01:32:40,080 --> 01:32:47,280
on the second invoice
i'm looking at this right here the

1165
01:32:43,280 --> 01:32:47,280
add-ons i know and anyway

1166
01:32:50,239 --> 01:32:54,880
i
to me it looks like they're trying to

1167
01:32:52,239 --> 01:32:57,360
cover up poor workmanship by asking for
standby

1168
01:32:56,480 --> 01:33:00,639
people
they want to charge us five thousand

1169
01:32:58,960 --> 01:33:05,920
fifty eight hundred dollars
for people to stand by to clean the kc

1170
01:33:03,840 --> 01:33:10,320
as that's twenty four thousand dollars
added to it

1171
01:33:07,199 --> 01:33:14,880
and i just don't see it i mean
if they ate it

1172
01:33:12,159 --> 01:33:19,280
i don't see approving this this cost now
i understand we need to improve the pump

1173
01:33:17,440 --> 01:33:22,080
but there's too much other stuff going
on in here that

1174
01:33:20,719 --> 01:33:24,960
they're adding to and i think they're
trying to slip by us

1175
01:33:26,480 --> 01:33:31,840
so my question is um so first when i
looked over this

1176
01:33:29,920 --> 01:33:35,199
my first thought was yes
obviously the price has went up we know

1177
01:33:34,400 --> 01:33:38,960
that
but my question is what can we do so

1178
01:33:37,280 --> 01:33:41,679
like let's say for instance since the
work's already started correct

1179
01:33:40,960 --> 01:33:44,159
so
what

1180
01:33:42,560 --> 01:33:50,639
so that's my thing so what is our
options realistically

1181
01:33:47,840 --> 01:33:54,400
yeah i mean at this point um
we're at the point where we need to get

1182
01:33:52,080 --> 01:33:58,400
the pump in that's where we are and it
kind of goes back to speak to a few of

1183
01:33:56,000 --> 01:34:02,159
those items we originally got this quote
um

1184
01:33:59,920 --> 01:34:05,040
late march of 2021 when we were working
on budget that was what it was

1185
01:34:03,600 --> 01:34:09,679
originally brought in that's when they
came in they presented to council and

1186
01:34:06,960 --> 01:34:16,080
shared estimated um costs that was where
we were 129 000. they told us at that

1187
01:34:12,880 --> 01:34:20,320
time a pump is going to run you about 50
000 that's not in this quote but we have

1188
01:34:18,960 --> 01:34:24,880
a
pump until the realignment and the

1189
01:34:22,159 --> 01:34:28,719
casing is done then you know what size
it could be smaller

1190
01:34:26,480 --> 01:34:31,280
it could be larger than you order your
pump

1191
01:34:29,679 --> 01:34:36,560
so at that time when we're working on
budget we approved we rounded it up to

1192
01:34:33,280 --> 01:34:40,320
130 000 for the last fiscal year so they
can get started on the project

1193
01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:44,000
our polaris director's goal was to get
it finished by the industry that's where

1194
01:34:42,239 --> 01:34:48,080
the gym came from they said that was
kind of aggressive considering you have

1195
01:34:45,760 --> 01:34:52,719
to order parts and materials that you
don't know how long it will take

1196
01:34:50,000 --> 01:34:57,840
that time we were under the impression
that we approve it

1197
01:34:55,119 --> 01:35:03,920
and the city could do all the paperwork
we then learned it required a tceq

1198
01:35:00,639 --> 01:35:07,920
permit and a paa from it and you had to
have registered professional engineering

1199
01:35:05,840 --> 01:35:11,119
plans in order to submit those
apartments

1200
01:35:09,199 --> 01:35:14,560
so we did not have enough money to start
the project last year so we didn't even

1201
01:35:13,360 --> 01:35:18,719
start
we came back during a new fiscal year

1202
01:35:16,719 --> 01:35:25,840
budget that you all approved for october
1 and we requested 200 000 in the budget

1203
01:35:22,239 --> 01:35:30,000
that 200 000 included engineering fees
and permitting fees so we could get all

1204
01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:34,320
the paperwork submitted
just to get the project started so the

1205
01:35:32,080 --> 01:35:38,560
project technically didn't start prior
to

1206
01:35:35,119 --> 01:35:38,560
around january this year

1207
01:35:40,719 --> 01:35:45,600
so that's where that lagging time came
from

1208
01:35:43,760 --> 01:35:49,520
when they got into the casing and they
they didn't come back and say there was

1209
01:35:47,280 --> 01:35:54,239
an issue with the cementing and so forth
it was going to cost some additional

1210
01:35:50,960 --> 01:35:58,480
money um to get more materials to try to
fill that in the city assumes the

1211
01:35:56,400 --> 01:36:01,679
responsibility for that any additional
costs because

1212
01:36:00,239 --> 01:36:07,760
they said they can't guarantee what's
going to happen once they get in there

1213
01:36:04,400 --> 01:36:11,840
um so they did notify me of that and
i authorize them to continue to work

1214
01:36:09,600 --> 01:36:16,560
because at that point
it's open run in the city of one well

1215
01:36:14,639 --> 01:36:19,600
tower the smaller one
drinking water is you know our

1216
01:36:18,159 --> 01:36:23,600
priorities so
they did go ahead and finish that work

1217
01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:27,679
that work is done and those two invoices
have been paid

1218
01:36:24,960 --> 01:36:32,880
but i paid them within the 200 000
budget so i um at this point

1219
01:36:30,960 --> 01:36:36,480
we need to order the pump
and they've already informed us that

1220
01:36:34,800 --> 01:36:42,639
you're looking at
8 to ten weeks to get a pump which

1221
01:36:40,159 --> 01:36:47,360
expedite the process so this cost
estimate that you have at forty nine

1222
01:36:44,480 --> 01:36:51,119
thousand i believe includes expediting
it

1223
01:36:48,239 --> 01:36:55,199
um so that we could try to get physical
i understand that

1224
01:36:53,360 --> 01:37:01,440
but the only two things that are
different from the original

1225
01:36:57,840 --> 01:37:04,800
proposal that they gave us back in april
and

1226
01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:10,719
these invoices
are that

1227
01:37:07,199 --> 01:37:14,080
uh number 10 the sub contracting
for

1228
01:37:12,000 --> 01:37:20,000
which is a difference of
3 000 or yeah 3 000 is 12 increase and

1229
01:37:17,760 --> 01:37:24,800
then this 90 000 that's different from
the 63 000. those are the only two

1230
01:37:21,920 --> 01:37:29,119
things that are not identical
prices didn't go up on anything else

1231
01:37:27,600 --> 01:37:31,760
okay
so

1232
01:37:30,400 --> 01:37:35,360
everything else is the same and that
includes labor hours and things

1233
01:37:34,400 --> 01:37:39,199
so
what was so different about this piece

1234
01:37:37,920 --> 01:37:43,119
that is not
the additional four things

1235
01:37:41,920 --> 01:37:46,480
five things that they have the
additional items outside of the original

1236
01:37:44,800 --> 01:37:50,480
quote that are listed that are twenty
four thousand dollars that's not

1237
01:37:47,840 --> 01:37:54,800
included in that ninety this is yeah
extra stuff i think it is

1238
01:37:52,560 --> 01:37:58,480
it's attitude this one's from december
this one's from mars if you add it

1239
01:37:56,400 --> 01:38:02,639
together from what it was here
and the two

1240
01:37:59,920 --> 01:38:07,119
comes up the exact number they got here
exactly

1241
01:38:04,960 --> 01:38:10,560
okay
okay i will entertain emotion i'm

1242
01:38:08,960 --> 01:38:14,159
wondering i'm sorry just one more
comment please i'm wondering how they

1243
01:38:13,199 --> 01:38:18,880
knew
this amount that's listed on the march

1244
01:38:19,040 --> 01:38:27,600
invoice when this one is december 31st
or december 28th

1245
01:38:25,199 --> 01:38:32,000
it's not on the same invoice
it's not

1246
01:38:29,679 --> 01:38:36,800
no i'm talking about the actual invoices
that additional 24 000 that's additional

1247
01:38:34,960 --> 01:38:41,760
items outside of the original quote that
you authorized

1248
01:38:38,719 --> 01:38:45,600
that's on the 3722
invoice

1249
01:38:43,600 --> 01:38:51,600
okay
that can't be part of the 90 000 that's

1250
01:38:48,080 --> 01:38:55,600
on the december 28th invoice
these are different they're separate

1251
01:38:53,679 --> 01:39:01,280
it's a whole different list of things
they did it doesn't have anything to do

1252
01:38:57,119 --> 01:39:05,360
with 100 1008 feet of
casing

1253
01:39:02,239 --> 01:39:05,360
which is what this is

1254
01:39:10,000 --> 01:39:13,840
we just it does it says parts but

1255
01:39:17,119 --> 01:39:24,000
which was originally 63 000.
so that's just that was just

1256
01:39:21,520 --> 01:39:24,000
what it ended

1257
01:39:25,040 --> 01:39:29,920
get the parts up they hadn't had any
labor at that point

1258
01:39:31,199 --> 01:39:37,280
and then on this one it shows you some
additional parts

1259
01:39:35,600 --> 01:39:41,520
those are all listed those are
individual part i lit i checked it

1260
01:39:39,119 --> 01:39:47,040
against the original
document

1261
01:39:43,040 --> 01:39:47,040
the original proposal i checked them off

1262
01:39:49,119 --> 01:39:55,840
i'm talking about the proposal versus
the invoices i checked each number off

1263
01:40:01,119 --> 01:40:07,920
why are we paying 90 000 instead of 60
that's the question

1264
01:40:09,600 --> 01:40:14,159
again
you have two different words there

1265
01:40:12,080 --> 01:40:18,719
proposal and quote
and the last discussion we had when we

1266
01:40:16,800 --> 01:40:24,880
added more money because of the fact we
knew we were coming into this year

1267
01:40:21,520 --> 01:40:29,760
when you take a quote there's also
the fact is that we

1268
01:40:26,960 --> 01:40:36,040
discuss the fact that they told us
they're looking down first with a camera

1269
01:40:31,920 --> 01:40:36,040
and until they get on the actual

1270
01:40:36,159 --> 01:40:42,239
we give them the latitude
to go ahead and fix and get it up and

1271
01:40:41,360 --> 01:40:45,840
running
because we're running on one well so if

1272
01:40:44,560 --> 01:40:50,639
you can't understand it's just like
tearing a car motor apart you may have a

1273
01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:54,320
knock in it but until you open it up you
can give an estimate 500 and you open up

1274
01:40:52,719 --> 01:40:59,199
and you find out you need a whole bunch
of new parts that goes to 2000 that's

1275
01:40:57,280 --> 01:41:02,239
the latitude you work with
and that's exactly what we're talking

1276
01:41:01,199 --> 01:41:06,880
about here
there is no engineer that i know of

1277
01:41:04,480 --> 01:41:12,719
there's no one in this business that i
don't know of that when you go to

1278
01:41:09,199 --> 01:41:17,360
re-pipe or re-uh align a well that you
are trying to make a swag until you get

1279
01:41:14,800 --> 01:41:20,159
into it and into the process
and if you think this is going to be

1280
01:41:18,800 --> 01:41:24,400
expensive now we're going to have to
make the pump and if we need to expedite

1281
01:41:22,320 --> 01:41:28,080
it and this top pump is going to have to
be custom made

1282
01:41:26,080 --> 01:41:32,080
as to the specifications that are now in
there with the liner in place

1283
01:41:30,480 --> 01:41:37,760
and that's going to probably go above
the quote a quote is a guess

1284
01:41:35,040 --> 01:41:42,880
and a proposal is a guess and we give
them the latitude to work past that

1285
01:41:40,239 --> 01:41:46,639
and that's exactly what she did now we
can sit here and argue about it all day

1286
01:41:44,719 --> 01:41:51,840
and we could say okay let's stop work
right now until we get an answer to this

1287
01:41:49,040 --> 01:41:56,159
question and if the other will goes down
we're pretty much shafted so to speak

1288
01:41:53,679 --> 01:42:00,239
pun intended
i will entertain a motion i got one more

1289
01:41:58,159 --> 01:42:05,119
question i have i have something else
okay council member martin

1290
01:42:02,719 --> 01:42:05,119
monique

1291
01:42:05,760 --> 01:42:14,560
how much more more money are we looking
at to finish this project

1292
01:42:10,560 --> 01:42:20,159
the 49 000 is less than that
i understand it's 49 for the pump we

1293
01:42:16,719 --> 01:42:20,159
would calculated 200 000.

1294
01:42:27,199 --> 01:42:33,920
i understand about tearing down an
engine and finding things that aren't

1295
01:42:30,719 --> 01:42:39,040
necessarily what you expect to be wrong
i understand that

1296
01:42:35,840 --> 01:42:39,040
this is parts

1297
01:42:39,119 --> 01:42:48,320
this is two different parts listed
together okay

1298
01:42:44,080 --> 01:42:52,639
there's a 30 or 27 thousand dollar
difference

1299
01:42:50,080 --> 01:42:57,040
i don't understand but
i'm not saying stop work okay i'm just

1300
01:42:54,880 --> 01:43:00,960
getting it i want an explanation okay i
understand that

1301
01:42:58,320 --> 01:43:04,080
that's all but this agenda item is to
approve the additional

1302
01:43:02,960 --> 01:43:06,480
work
for

1303
01:43:04,880 --> 01:43:08,800
the new pump
the

1304
01:43:07,440 --> 01:43:14,880
back and forth
with the amount on these invoices

1305
01:43:12,480 --> 01:43:18,960
this can be solved
later

1306
01:43:15,840 --> 01:43:20,960
you can you can get those info the the
the

1307
01:43:19,760 --> 01:43:26,159
information
from monique you can email her just like

1308
01:43:23,040 --> 01:43:30,960
you did at 3am this morning
um councilmember greiter did you have a

1309
01:43:28,719 --> 01:43:34,400
question oh well it wasn't a question it
was a comment i would just basically say

1310
01:43:32,800 --> 01:43:37,679
that
i get your questions

1311
01:43:36,239 --> 01:43:40,239
all we can do is i mean she doesn't have
the answers right now so she has to ask

1312
01:43:39,360 --> 01:43:43,520
them
so and no matter what like i asked

1313
01:43:42,000 --> 01:43:47,119
earlier what is our options because
realistically no matter what we have to

1314
01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:50,080
get this done it doesn't even i mean
unless we're gonna say stop and we're

1315
01:43:48,639 --> 01:43:54,239
not gonna do that because if something
goes down i mean then what are we going

1316
01:43:52,639 --> 01:43:58,159
to do you need water i mean that you
have to have water no matter what so i

1317
01:43:56,320 --> 01:44:01,600
get your concern she's going to ask the
questions but we just need to basically

1318
01:44:00,239 --> 01:44:06,800
what make a motion or what are we going
to yes i am entertaining a motion

1319
01:44:04,960 --> 01:44:12,320
to approve the additional work and the
new pump at well site number three i

1320
01:44:09,360 --> 01:44:16,800
make a motion we approve the new work in
parts of bill site number three second

1321
01:44:15,280 --> 01:44:21,600
we have a
table by mayor pro tim grant and

1322
01:44:19,119 --> 01:44:24,880
seconded by councilmember apodaca to
approve the additional call to audition

1323
01:44:23,600 --> 01:44:29,040
the
to approve the additional cost and

1324
01:44:27,360 --> 01:44:34,400
additional work
and a new pump at well site number three

1325
01:44:31,360 --> 01:44:39,199
city secretary police call roll mayor
pro tem grant yes ma'am

1326
01:44:36,480 --> 01:44:44,239
council member apodaca yes
council member writer yes

1327
01:44:42,080 --> 01:44:48,880
council member street
yes

1328
01:44:45,760 --> 01:44:53,360
council member martin yes
mayor aldridge yes

1329
01:44:51,520 --> 01:44:56,719
the additional
the the cost of the additional work and

1330
01:44:55,040 --> 01:45:03,040
the new pump for well site number three
has passed

1331
01:44:59,280 --> 01:45:08,480
9h council liaison first up is animal
advisory committee mayor pro tim grant

1332
01:45:07,119 --> 01:45:12,159
well
i gotta tell you we're full we got a

1333
01:45:10,320 --> 01:45:15,600
whole bunch of animals
uh

1334
01:45:13,280 --> 01:45:18,639
running truly right now chemicals and
stuff he's up to date on

1335
01:45:17,600 --> 01:45:21,280
uh
we're coming into warm weather thank

1336
01:45:20,239 --> 01:45:24,639
goodness
but uh

1337
01:45:22,719 --> 01:45:28,560
the last thing that you know i
have been remorse because both my cars

1338
01:45:26,800 --> 01:45:32,639
are in the shop but the only thing they
need right now is paper goods paper

1339
01:45:30,239 --> 01:45:35,840
towels things of that nature
other than that the mike's doing a fine

1340
01:45:34,800 --> 01:45:39,679
job he
we still need to be

1341
01:45:37,679 --> 01:45:42,719
two more employees
uh

1342
01:45:41,119 --> 01:45:48,639
i don't know exactly where we stand on
it do we have any applications for any

1343
01:45:44,719 --> 01:45:48,639
of the positions there i didn't think so

1344
01:45:50,000 --> 01:45:57,159
anyway i'll make a comment on that in
comments but that's that's where we are

1345
01:45:54,000 --> 01:45:57,159
right now

1346
01:45:59,280 --> 01:46:05,199
okay
uh next is beautification and recycling

1347
01:46:02,800 --> 01:46:09,920
committee councilmember greiter
um yes the beautification recycle

1348
01:46:08,080 --> 01:46:14,480
committee we have a fiesta decorating
contest

1349
01:46:11,280 --> 01:46:14,480
um deadline to

1350
01:46:15,360 --> 01:46:22,960
deadline to submit march 28th at 5 pm
the application you can come get it at

1351
01:46:20,719 --> 01:46:27,440
city hall or you can print it off
um via

1352
01:46:25,440 --> 01:46:31,119
uh the social media on the city of
kirby's uh facebook page

1353
01:46:29,760 --> 01:46:35,840
um you can either like i said you can
either drop it off or you also can email

1354
01:46:33,360 --> 01:46:41,920
um our city secretary again deadline to
submit is march 28th at 5 00 pm judging

1355
01:46:38,719 --> 01:46:46,719
will be on april 1st we have um
prizes um to give away so hopefully you

1356
01:46:45,280 --> 01:46:52,000
uh participate
and coming up on may 14th

1357
01:46:50,719 --> 01:46:56,800
we're going to beautification recycle
committee is going to um combine a 50 50

1358
01:46:57,280 --> 01:47:04,320
rummage sale at the vfw
here in kirby so proceeds are going to

1359
01:47:02,159 --> 01:47:09,440
go half to beautification recycle
committee and half the proceeds will go

1360
01:47:06,320 --> 01:47:13,840
to the vfw here um
uh

1361
01:47:10,239 --> 01:47:17,920
the 10 by 10 slots are 25
um

1362
01:47:15,040 --> 01:47:24,320
about mid sometime mid next week
let me give it an official date i guess

1363
01:47:21,119 --> 01:47:27,440
so by next wednesday um i'll have the
information where you can go up to the

1364
01:47:25,440 --> 01:47:30,719
vfw and pick your slot
out if you want to pre-pay if you don't

1365
01:47:29,520 --> 01:47:34,960
prepay you're just going to get what's
left on the day of the sale so hopefully

1366
01:47:33,119 --> 01:47:38,400
everybody participates comes out and i
encourage all um

1367
01:47:37,199 --> 01:47:42,480
actually the beautification and recycle
committee encourages all um other boards

1368
01:47:40,880 --> 01:47:45,760
and commissions to come out too to
participate they were saying like for

1369
01:47:43,760 --> 01:47:49,679
instance crime control if you want to
set up a booth you could there also just

1370
01:47:47,760 --> 01:47:54,320
so when the current the citizens come
out they can meet everybody and that's

1371
01:47:52,000 --> 01:47:57,280
on there
uh may 14th

1372
01:47:58,320 --> 01:48:04,400
uh next up is building and standards
commission councilmember martin

1373
01:48:02,639 --> 01:48:07,520
mayor i have nothing to report
we haven't had a meeting in probably

1374
01:48:05,679 --> 01:48:12,080
four or five months and i don't think we
have one coming up doing money

1375
01:48:10,159 --> 01:48:18,320
that's it that's all i got thank you sir
next is crime control and prevention

1376
01:48:14,159 --> 01:48:22,960
district council member salazar not here
next in line is economic development

1377
01:48:20,320 --> 01:48:26,159
committees council member apodaca
we have not met so nothing to report

1378
01:48:25,199 --> 01:48:30,400
okay
next in line is planning and zoning

1379
01:48:28,000 --> 01:48:35,360
commission that is myself we have not
had a meeting and number seven senior

1380
01:48:33,360 --> 01:48:37,520
center corporation board council member
street

1381
01:48:36,400 --> 01:48:43,119
okay
they had a board meeting on march 14th

1382
01:48:40,560 --> 01:48:47,119
uh sid sanders senior has resigned as
the board president

1383
01:48:45,199 --> 01:48:52,880
they are also planning on having their
30th anniversary

1384
01:48:48,880 --> 01:48:59,520
celebration in april of 2023
the date set right now is for april 22nd

1385
01:48:57,119 --> 01:49:04,320
the center will be having an indoor
easter egg hunt for our seniors on

1386
01:49:01,760 --> 01:49:06,880
wednesday april 13th
and if you have any questions please

1387
01:49:05,600 --> 01:49:10,560
contact the director at the senior
center thank you okay

1388
01:49:09,600 --> 01:49:16,000
all right
moving on to 10a announcements on city

1389
01:49:13,760 --> 01:49:19,560
events and items of community interest
from our city manager

1390
01:49:24,880 --> 01:49:29,000
a forum will be going out

1391
01:49:40,960 --> 01:49:46,080
the engine's impact
the list will remain confidential and

1392
01:49:44,560 --> 01:49:50,480
it's only used in the event of a
city-wide emergency so the purpose of

1393
01:49:48,560 --> 01:49:54,719
that is like when we have the freeze or
we have a power outage you know you have

1394
01:49:52,880 --> 01:49:57,719
oxygen that needs to run or have some
other

1395
01:50:01,840 --> 01:50:09,440
secondly city hall is going to close at
3 p.m on friday april 1st we do our

1396
01:50:07,119 --> 01:50:13,119
annual department cleaning and shredding
of

1397
01:50:10,480 --> 01:50:18,480
city documents for our
retention date so

1398
01:50:15,199 --> 01:50:22,960
that is the friday of the week
so everybody to know in advance

1399
01:50:21,040 --> 01:50:26,800
you need to pay your water bill because
you've been turned off you will really

1400
01:50:24,560 --> 01:50:30,159
have a cell phone that day in person but
you will still have the online and the

1401
01:50:28,800 --> 01:50:34,560
options
and lastly we are still asking for

1402
01:50:32,320 --> 01:50:38,599
volunteers to meet us here at city hall
on wednesday after six

1403
01:50:39,199 --> 01:50:44,159
easter eggs
candy donations are also made accepted

1404
01:50:42,719 --> 01:50:48,800
here at city hall
easter egg lunch is going to take place

1405
01:50:46,080 --> 01:50:54,159
on sunday april 10th in friendship park
from 2 to 4 p.m

1406
01:50:50,800 --> 01:50:57,679
we will proceed because we did get um
the prime control board volunteered to

1407
01:50:55,840 --> 01:51:03,840
help us find eggs that day and then i
had about four emails from residents who

1408
01:50:59,840 --> 01:51:03,840
were ready to help so we appreciate

1409
01:51:04,840 --> 01:51:13,119
that moving on to 11a
requests by mayor and council members

1410
01:51:10,960 --> 01:51:17,920
for items to be placed on future city
agendas and announcements on city events

1411
01:51:15,920 --> 01:51:23,040
and community interests council member
street

1412
01:51:19,679 --> 01:51:27,119
i just wanted to say that
for those of you who don't understand

1413
01:51:24,800 --> 01:51:31,040
why i ask so many questions is because
when i was sitting out there

1414
01:51:28,960 --> 01:51:35,599
i always had questions
and it was hard for me to get answers so

1415
01:51:32,960 --> 01:51:39,599
now when i'm up here and i go through
these documents

1416
01:51:37,679 --> 01:51:44,320
everything doesn't make sense to me so i
ask the questions and then sometimes i

1417
01:51:41,679 --> 01:51:49,280
repeat those questions so you know
the answers to them too just in case

1418
01:51:46,400 --> 01:51:55,599
you're also wondering it's not because i
don't know everything or because i i

1419
01:51:53,119 --> 01:51:59,280
i was accused of you know not asking the
questions beforehand and getting the

1420
01:51:57,040 --> 01:52:04,560
answers and just moving on well i think
you sometimes want to know

1421
01:52:01,599 --> 01:52:08,560
so that's the point of why i ask
questions up here

1422
01:52:05,920 --> 01:52:11,520
if sometimes i don't already know
because sometimes we don't get the

1423
01:52:09,840 --> 01:52:14,400
information fast enough and it's just
impossible when you get the information

1424
01:52:13,280 --> 01:52:19,280
from the
city manager on monday to get everything

1425
01:52:16,880 --> 01:52:22,880
done by thursday it's just impossible
sometimes

1426
01:52:20,400 --> 01:52:28,159
anyway thank you to all our city
employees you work very hard and i

1427
01:52:24,800 --> 01:52:31,679
appreciate you and everybody be safe
councilmember greater okay

1428
01:52:30,719 --> 01:52:34,560
um
so thank you to everyone who volunteered

1429
01:52:33,040 --> 01:52:37,679
for the park cleanup um republic
services for providing the dumpster

1430
01:52:36,080 --> 01:52:42,239
thank you to all city staff miss monique
miss tracy ms tina thank you to fire ems

1431
01:52:40,320 --> 01:52:46,800
um thanks chief hilbert thank you very
much for coming out um

1432
01:52:44,639 --> 01:52:51,599
uh public works thank you thank you for
providing tools and resources our

1433
01:52:49,199 --> 01:52:54,880
our kirby crime control um had
representatives for both park cleanup

1434
01:52:53,119 --> 01:52:58,639
day so kudos thank you very much we
appreciate that

1435
01:52:56,239 --> 01:53:02,159
i did notice that um also we had members
from beautification recycle committee

1436
01:53:00,080 --> 01:53:06,560
come out on the 19th so thank you to
them also um the outside clubs and

1437
01:53:04,800 --> 01:53:11,360
organization i want to give thanks to is
black girls do bikes san antonio major

1438
01:53:08,560 --> 01:53:14,719
taylor cycling club san antonio 210
cycle riders and i wish y'all had the

1439
01:53:13,199 --> 01:53:18,719
the military fraternity actually came
out too so appreciate them thank you

1440
01:53:17,119 --> 01:53:22,239
um thanks to the assistant my assistant
angela for keeping me on track as always

1441
01:53:20,400 --> 01:53:27,679
lunch is provided by myself but um
thanks for the added food items like

1442
01:53:24,320 --> 01:53:31,280
bj's famous crackers and england um for
donating cinnamon rolls and banana nut

1443
01:53:29,920 --> 01:53:35,360
bread
from her business it's good though it's

1444
01:53:33,599 --> 01:53:37,520
good dough make sure i say that right
it's good though

1445
01:53:36,639 --> 01:53:41,679
um
so thank you thank you that was a nice

1446
01:53:39,199 --> 01:53:46,400
surprise um to my mother gloria grider
for organizing set up the food um

1447
01:53:44,320 --> 01:53:50,480
making everybody laugh
having a good time um

1448
01:53:48,560 --> 01:53:53,119
and uh obviously my father were helping
them doing some hard labor out there

1449
01:53:51,840 --> 01:53:56,400
thank you to everyone who came out
especially our youth it was very

1450
01:53:54,400 --> 01:53:59,440
refreshing to see our youth participate
a lot of them brought their forums for

1451
01:53:57,920 --> 01:54:02,560
their community service hours they need
it for school

1452
01:54:00,880 --> 01:54:07,840
thank you councilmember street and
martin for coming out again thank you to

1453
01:54:04,719 --> 01:54:12,080
everyone who participated and helped
it was a great success we did a lot of

1454
01:54:09,920 --> 01:54:16,159
work out there um
it was no plan around it was work

1455
01:54:14,880 --> 01:54:22,280
i mean i know i went home i was
exhausted so so thank you everybody who

1456
01:54:18,480 --> 01:54:22,280
participated that was great

1457
01:54:32,000 --> 01:54:38,560
um
i would like is it possible that i know

1458
01:54:35,920 --> 01:54:43,520
last council meeting i asked for you to
if you could see some dates in april

1459
01:54:41,440 --> 01:54:46,639
um this for a special meeting about the
crime in kirby do we have any available

1460
01:54:45,199 --> 01:54:49,040
dates open or is it going to have to be
in may

1461
01:54:51,599 --> 01:54:56,719
so i did go back and look but we
actually have um

1462
01:54:55,040 --> 01:55:01,119
the first saturday in june which i think
is before it was already scheduled as

1463
01:54:58,480 --> 01:55:05,679
our next quarterly forum
if you want to move it up we can look at

1464
01:55:03,280 --> 01:55:10,560
a saturday in may but we've got
activities already in april

1465
01:55:08,880 --> 01:55:14,320
okay maybe we can look at some dates in
may just in um because some of the i

1466
01:55:12,880 --> 01:55:17,520
mean well a lot of the residents are
really concerned so maybe just possibly

1467
01:55:16,239 --> 01:55:20,960
throw out some dates
um

1468
01:55:18,960 --> 01:55:24,800
also when um just want to check the
status of the computer the little nook

1469
01:55:22,960 --> 01:55:29,080
in the back for the council members when
will that be ready and available to use

1470
01:55:33,040 --> 01:55:37,520
okay
so okay okay

1471
01:55:36,480 --> 01:55:42,639
um
and also um i would like to put on the

1472
01:55:39,520 --> 01:55:46,480
agenda uh in a future agenda item we
need to discuss putting money aside for

1473
01:55:44,320 --> 01:55:49,599
our boards and committees for training
and when i say training i mean official

1474
01:55:48,560 --> 01:55:56,960
training
um economic development committee um

1475
01:55:53,520 --> 01:56:01,280
uh what was the uh what's from last week
planning and zone yes planning and

1476
01:55:58,480 --> 01:56:05,679
zoning they need official training i
don't think that it's right for anybody

1477
01:56:04,080 --> 01:56:09,040
no matter what position you're in just
to throw somebody in there they need to

1478
01:56:07,280 --> 01:56:13,440
know
they need to be trained basically

1479
01:56:11,199 --> 01:56:16,560
um and we need to really look into that
uh to see if there's some training out i

1480
01:56:15,360 --> 01:56:20,400
know there has to be some training out
there possibly

1481
01:56:17,840 --> 01:56:20,400
uh because

1482
01:56:20,639 --> 01:56:26,159
right yeah maybe tml um just so to get
them more informed

1483
01:56:24,800 --> 01:56:29,280
and also it's good just to touch up on
your skills every now and then you know

1484
01:56:27,520 --> 01:56:32,480
you can't know everything right
okay

1485
01:56:30,560 --> 01:56:35,360
so the kirby youth community outreach
event we invite kirby residents and

1486
01:56:34,080 --> 01:56:40,080
surrounding communities to bring your
children to the free event this event

1487
01:56:37,040 --> 01:56:44,960
will take place on april 30th may 28th
and june 25th

1488
01:56:41,679 --> 01:56:51,520
12 to 1 p.m all ages welcome hosted by
semper fortis jiu jitsu

1489
01:56:47,280 --> 01:56:55,840
at our very own vfw post 2059 3202
ackermann road here in kirby jiu-jitsu

1490
01:56:54,239 --> 01:56:59,040
is proven to provide discipline improve
focus and attention i hope you bring

1491
01:56:57,119 --> 01:57:04,800
your kids out to this event
um we have those three dates

1492
01:57:01,679 --> 01:57:08,960
it's a free event um also i want to say
i had the honor of going to india

1493
01:57:07,360 --> 01:57:12,639
association
of san antonio event and a learning

1494
01:57:10,800 --> 01:57:16,639
experience um
uh

1495
01:57:14,560 --> 01:57:20,800
my friends culture um
holy is a celebration of the beginning

1496
01:57:18,480 --> 01:57:24,480
of spring and triumph of good over evil
holy is a hindu

1497
01:57:22,560 --> 01:57:27,760
festival also known as the festival of
colors

1498
01:57:25,440 --> 01:57:32,560
so this holy may evil leave your home in
may prosperity and joy walk in

1499
01:57:30,320 --> 01:57:35,280
happy holi um thanks denali for that i
found it very interesting i think it's

1500
01:57:34,000 --> 01:57:39,280
always good to learn other people's
cultures you know um because you gotta

1501
01:57:37,760 --> 01:57:46,000
remember our community is made of all
types right it's a community okay so the

1502
01:57:42,800 --> 01:57:46,000
last thing that i have

1503
01:57:46,080 --> 01:57:52,080
is
women's history month so

1504
01:57:50,320 --> 01:57:54,960
obviously it's coming to an end and i'm
honored to be blessed to be raised by my

1505
01:57:53,760 --> 01:57:57,920
parents and especially my wonderful
mother gloria grider and have strong

1506
01:57:56,880 --> 01:58:02,000
women
role models in my family and in my life

1507
01:58:00,159 --> 01:58:05,679
in our city of kirby there are strong
women and i am honored to know you and

1508
01:58:03,760 --> 01:58:10,159
to sit up here and represent you this
month as many have seen stories

1509
01:58:07,440 --> 01:58:14,159
reflecting on courage of women in past
generations and celebrate their

1510
01:58:11,840 --> 01:58:18,840
contributions but let us continue to
honor respect support and empower women

1511
01:58:16,880 --> 01:58:23,679
of all ages all races and all
backgrounds i have seen so many women in

1512
01:58:21,520 --> 01:58:27,840
our community in our city step up for
example england sanchez who owns is good

1513
01:58:26,000 --> 01:58:32,000
though coordinated and raised money for
supplies for kirby kirby animal services

1514
01:58:30,639 --> 01:58:35,599
she just did that out of the kindness of
her heart bj voigt offering to lend her

1515
01:58:34,080 --> 01:58:40,320
truck to pick up items or offering to
cook and provide a meal to anyone yvonne

1516
01:58:38,080 --> 01:58:44,960
rodriguez donating thanksgiving meals to
kirby residents her compassion and

1517
01:58:42,239 --> 01:58:48,800
generosity is amazing gisele sanford who
owns creme de la hemp and also had a

1518
01:58:47,360 --> 01:58:52,960
jewelry business and gave women and
kirby free jewelry just because jessica

1519
01:58:51,199 --> 01:58:57,679
zapata who has a wealth of knowledge
with bear county records and is willing

1520
01:58:54,719 --> 01:59:01,440
to help anyone anytime jacqueline malter
donated her chair to the park cleanup

1521
01:58:59,920 --> 01:59:05,599
when i asked she said without any
hesitation said anytime you ever need

1522
01:59:03,520 --> 01:59:10,320
them again i'm here for you
um mayor lisa pierce was the first to

1523
01:59:08,239 --> 01:59:13,280
let me know when i was appointed
uh

1524
01:59:11,280 --> 01:59:16,880
if i had any questions
um that i wanted to know

1525
01:59:15,360 --> 01:59:20,159
she was gonna she was willing to answer
for me answer for me and she was here

1526
01:59:18,800 --> 01:59:22,960
for me until this day if i have any
questions she provides me vital

1527
01:59:21,679 --> 01:59:27,920
information
um there's plenty business owners here

1528
01:59:25,599 --> 01:59:31,679
women business women owners here in
kirby sell me a low casina um actually i

1529
01:59:30,560 --> 01:59:37,599
don't know if you guys want to yummy
yummy italian ice cream um that's a

1530
01:59:33,920 --> 01:59:43,040
family of women who own that business um
maria's restaurant el ricon de maria and

1531
01:59:40,480 --> 01:59:46,880
many other businesses in kirby owned by
women

1532
01:59:45,280 --> 01:59:50,960
glenda curtis quick to support our
community and our city any way we uh any

1533
01:59:49,040 --> 01:59:56,400
way she can offers genuine encouragement
and kindness um alice pat there are so

1534
01:59:53,840 --> 02:00:01,280
many women that i can just
i can't even mention in our community

1535
01:59:59,119 --> 02:00:04,000
that makes this a community
and that helps each other help each

1536
02:00:02,800 --> 02:00:08,000
other out
um i will close with some of my favorite

1537
02:00:06,639 --> 02:00:12,880
quotes by women
women belong in all places where the

1538
02:00:10,719 --> 02:00:16,719
decisions are being made
it shouldn't be that women are the

1539
02:00:14,480 --> 02:00:21,679
exception that's by the late supreme
court justice ruth bader ginsburg

1540
02:00:19,280 --> 02:00:26,400
each time a woman stands up for herself
without knowing it possibly without

1541
02:00:24,239 --> 02:00:31,199
claiming it she stands up for all women
maya angelou

1542
02:00:28,639 --> 02:00:35,119
i had rather make history than write it
susan b anthony

1543
02:00:33,360 --> 02:00:39,119
and the last one
don't mistake

1544
02:00:36,480 --> 02:00:43,199
politeness for lack of strength supreme
court justice sonia manure amen

1545
02:00:43,640 --> 02:00:51,280
[Applause]
mayor kim grant

1546
02:00:52,400 --> 02:01:00,159
i have been looking at uh
different things especially the salaries

1547
02:00:57,280 --> 02:01:00,159
of our employees

1548
02:01:00,560 --> 02:01:07,040
and uh you know of course we've been
famous since i've lived here and since

1549
02:01:05,199 --> 02:01:10,239
his department started
on being one of the biggest training

1550
02:01:08,639 --> 02:01:12,639
centers for police officers in this
county

1551
02:01:12,719 --> 02:01:17,040
so this upcoming budget year

1552
02:01:18,400 --> 02:01:26,800
we really really need to look very hard
at

1553
02:01:22,480 --> 02:01:30,800
our employees and the minimum wage
a starting officer in windcrest makes

1554
02:01:28,719 --> 02:01:36,800
more than our detectives
why he stays just amazes out of me

1555
02:01:34,400 --> 02:01:41,360
loyalty i guess because he likes the
city

1556
02:01:38,880 --> 02:01:46,320
and i keep hearing about you know why
don't we fill this and why don't we fill

1557
02:01:43,040 --> 02:01:49,760
that it's real simple they come in
because i've checked

1558
02:01:47,760 --> 02:01:54,080
they fill out the application
they do the interview they get offered

1559
02:01:51,840 --> 02:01:57,840
the job they see the salary they don't
show up

1560
02:01:56,159 --> 02:02:03,040
because we are
dramatically below anybody else

1561
02:02:01,280 --> 02:02:07,199
we're not even close to
we should be a minimum of the starting

1562
02:02:05,199 --> 02:02:10,960
pay for every job in this city should be
a minimum of fifteen dollars an hour

1563
02:02:09,199 --> 02:02:13,840
we're not close
yet we want to spend two hundred

1564
02:02:12,320 --> 02:02:16,560
thousand dollars on a machine that digs
up the street

1565
02:02:15,199 --> 02:02:20,320
another hundred thousand on the
equipment to support it and we got

1566
02:02:18,400 --> 02:02:25,199
nobody to work it so let's go ahead and
buy it let us sit out there and gather

1567
02:02:21,760 --> 02:02:29,360
dust because we have nobody to run it
and

1568
02:02:26,960 --> 02:02:33,440
while i'm on that subject yes it takes
two men to run that machine what does it

1569
02:02:32,400 --> 02:02:39,199
do
it digs up the pavement

1570
02:02:36,719 --> 02:02:44,080
that's all it does
then you buy another machine called a

1571
02:02:42,080 --> 02:02:49,599
lay down paver
which you have to train people to run

1572
02:02:48,239 --> 02:02:54,159
and
again we talk about seguin

1573
02:02:52,320 --> 02:03:02,320
good conversation there
their crew for that machine is five

1574
02:02:57,280 --> 02:03:02,320
people minimal five people period

1575
02:03:03,119 --> 02:03:09,360
and it's a dedicated crew basically now
they do work other jobs

1576
02:03:07,679 --> 02:03:12,880
but when they start a job they get to
finish it

1577
02:03:10,639 --> 02:03:16,480
our problem is like asphalt for instance
is like concrete

1578
02:03:14,719 --> 02:03:23,760
you order so much concrete if you don't
use it it sits sets it hardens you can't

1579
02:03:20,719 --> 02:03:28,320
save concrete guess what you can't save
asphalt

1580
02:03:25,040 --> 02:03:33,280
once you've ordered asphalt for a job
you got so much time to use it if you

1581
02:03:30,880 --> 02:03:39,360
don't use it in that amount of time it
sits sets excuse me

1582
02:03:36,719 --> 02:03:43,840
it's called attention to a street where
a patch was put in and it's not

1583
02:03:42,000 --> 02:03:47,280
completely full
why they ran out

1584
02:03:48,000 --> 02:03:54,560
so what i'm saying to you folks is
you want to spend a whole bunch of money

1585
02:03:52,480 --> 02:03:57,760
on something that we can't use it
doesn't make a lot of sense until we

1586
02:03:56,639 --> 02:04:03,119
fill
and have every position filled

1587
02:04:01,040 --> 02:04:06,719
right now i think we're short two and
what uh

1588
02:04:04,480 --> 02:04:12,320
maintenance for the city start two
positions or three three

1589
02:04:08,880 --> 02:04:14,320
okay and we're start two officers i know
for a fact

1590
02:04:13,520 --> 02:04:18,000
uh
oh i caught it the other day for code

1591
02:04:16,800 --> 02:04:22,320
compliance
well guess what

1592
02:04:19,760 --> 02:04:26,159
the co-compliance officer has been one
dispatching

1593
02:04:23,520 --> 02:04:29,199
to on patrol
so again

1594
02:04:28,159 --> 02:04:32,800
you know
it's easy to complain it's easy to sit

1595
02:04:31,360 --> 02:04:36,719
up here
and ask for all of these things to be

1596
02:04:34,719 --> 02:04:40,639
done
we don't have the people to do them

1597
02:04:38,880 --> 02:04:45,119
second of all we don't pay them to do
that

1598
02:04:42,480 --> 02:04:49,599
so until we whether i'm sitting here
again or not and personally i'm getting

1599
02:04:46,880 --> 02:04:52,800
the point i don't care honestly
but the point of it is that i'm making

1600
02:04:51,199 --> 02:04:57,040
to you folks
if you don't put the money out to put

1601
02:04:54,880 --> 02:05:03,440
the people in the positions
then you can buy all the stuff you want

1602
02:05:00,560 --> 02:05:06,639
and it you don't you can't use it
so

1603
02:05:04,239 --> 02:05:11,440
please this next budget
look at the people here take your time

1604
02:05:09,119 --> 02:05:17,199
if you're going to do some research
every city's budget is published

1605
02:05:15,679 --> 02:05:20,800
look it up
see what a street worker makes in

1606
02:05:18,560 --> 02:05:24,159
congress see what a street worker makes
in windcrest

1607
02:05:22,079 --> 02:05:27,599
see what one makes in shirts see what
one makes in live oak you should be

1608
02:05:26,320 --> 02:05:32,239
embarrassed
how low we pay

1609
02:05:30,159 --> 02:05:35,239
mike that runs and does our animal
control

1610
02:05:35,280 --> 02:05:40,400
9 15 bucks an hour and he runs a
department

1611
02:05:38,719 --> 02:05:43,440
this is embarrassing
so complain all you want about the

1612
02:05:42,159 --> 02:05:48,400
potholes
i feel sorry for them i drive them every

1613
02:05:45,440 --> 02:05:53,760
day myself just like everybody else does
but if you don't have the people trained

1614
02:05:51,280 --> 02:05:59,520
to fix them if you don't have the people
to run the machines that you want to buy

1615
02:05:57,280 --> 02:06:05,040
nothing's going to get fixed
so think about that and think about

1616
02:06:01,599 --> 02:06:10,880
where your tax money wants to go
come up here and talk to us

1617
02:06:08,719 --> 02:06:14,639
check and see yourselves
there's there's everybody out there

1618
02:06:12,400 --> 02:06:18,480
everything is available online to check
and see who makes what

1619
02:06:17,199 --> 02:06:22,639
okay
it's an embarrassment to put your pl

1620
02:06:20,960 --> 02:06:25,679
your life on the line with your police
officers

1621
02:06:23,679 --> 02:06:29,679
for what we pay them
okay

1622
02:06:27,040 --> 02:06:35,040
it's ridiculous actually
and i'm embarrassed because i can say i

1623
02:06:31,520 --> 02:06:38,480
started 175 when it was 7.25 cents an
hour

1624
02:06:35,840 --> 02:06:41,679
and we're just barely past that
barely past that

1625
02:06:42,159 --> 02:06:46,719
so
anyway folks

1626
02:06:45,040 --> 02:06:51,119
thank you all for staying with us all
our city people i appreciate it

1627
02:06:48,960 --> 02:06:54,400
thanks for everybody that works hard
and have a good evening

1628
02:06:53,040 --> 02:06:58,560
thank you
councilmember apodaca

1629
02:06:57,599 --> 02:07:05,199
um
there's no doubt in my mind that um

1630
02:07:02,079 --> 02:07:09,040
every employee of kirby works hard
and um

1631
02:07:06,719 --> 02:07:13,840
i'd like to say that our public works
director

1632
02:07:10,960 --> 02:07:17,280
mike you've done an outstanding job
there's just no other way to put it you

1633
02:07:16,159 --> 02:07:22,000
are
a man of integrity and

1634
02:07:20,000 --> 02:07:24,239
i'm really going to be sorry to see you
leave

1635
02:07:23,360 --> 02:07:29,119
so
from the bottom of my heart i do

1636
02:07:25,840 --> 02:07:29,119
appreciate all your hard work

1637
02:07:29,280 --> 02:07:36,480
um
the vfw here in kirby

1638
02:07:33,920 --> 02:07:40,480
um is having two events um i mentioned
one last time

1639
02:07:37,840 --> 02:07:44,880
april 14th there's going to be a
fish fry

1640
02:07:41,920 --> 02:07:48,079
um starts at 11 to 3
dine in or carry out you can call in

1641
02:07:46,800 --> 02:07:53,040
your order
and they will be selling um

1642
02:07:51,520 --> 02:07:58,159
pre-sale tickets and they're going to
have 50 50 in raffles

1643
02:07:56,239 --> 02:08:03,360
and also on
may 7th that's a saturday they're going

1644
02:08:00,480 --> 02:08:09,360
to have the lotteria
and they're going to have 14 games and

1645
02:08:05,920 --> 02:08:13,520
100 prizes for each game
it's a lot of fun been to a couple of

1646
02:08:11,360 --> 02:08:17,119
them and
they are going to have

1647
02:08:15,520 --> 02:08:19,599
food for sale
and

1648
02:08:17,840 --> 02:08:22,560
[Music]
it says

1649
02:08:20,840 --> 02:08:26,639
um
the two dollar bingo paper games 50

1650
02:08:25,199 --> 02:08:32,320
gifts
so um if you have nothing to do that day

1651
02:08:29,520 --> 02:08:32,320
it'll be a lot of fun

1652
02:08:33,199 --> 02:08:38,480
councilmember martin
well folks y'all heard it

1653
02:08:37,119 --> 02:08:42,159
there ain't been nothing done around
here in 20 years and i guess it's gonna

1654
02:08:40,560 --> 02:08:46,480
take another 20 years for us to get
anything done

1655
02:08:44,800 --> 02:08:49,840
there's plenty of things that we can do
to this city

1656
02:08:48,000 --> 02:08:52,800
and sure we can get these employees more
money we can keep them we can buy

1657
02:08:51,760 --> 02:08:56,639
equipment
it's up to us to make that change

1658
02:08:55,199 --> 02:09:00,400
you got a difference between change and
control that's your choice

1659
02:09:00,560 --> 02:09:05,520
i want to thank mike ice
for his

1660
02:09:03,440 --> 02:09:10,400
great job he's done here and which best
team wish on his next in their endeavors

1661
02:09:08,639 --> 02:09:13,840
but believe us
we're going to move this city forward

1662
02:09:12,320 --> 02:09:17,599
and it's not going to take 20 years to
do it

1663
02:09:15,040 --> 02:09:21,760
so hang with us
and may god bless y'all that's all i got

1664
02:09:20,239 --> 02:09:28,320
thank you
all right um remember

1665
02:09:24,239 --> 02:09:34,960
we have candidates running for office
election is first

1666
02:09:31,119 --> 02:09:39,960
like to thank everybody in this
please have a safe journey home meeting

1667
02:09:36,960 --> 02:09:39,960
adjourned