1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,840 Okay, meeting 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:07,880 Yes, Jerry. >> Yes. 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:09,800 » France >> Yes. 4 00:00:08,640 --> 00:00:12,440 » Correct. >> Yes. 5 00:00:11,120 --> 00:00:14,720 » That was Okay. 6 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:20,840 Let's stand for a pledge of allegiance and a prayer. 7 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:31,880 » I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the 8 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:38,720 republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and 9 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:38,720 justice for all. 10 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:45,040 » Dear heavenly Father, as we come this evening, we just take a moment and just 11 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:48,840 ask that you guide and direct us and help us make the best decisions for the 12 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:52,960 town of Kirkland. We ask all these things in your name we pray. Amen. 13 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:52,960 » Amen. 14 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:12,920 » In your packets um that Tara had sent us, we had um meeting 15 00:01:11,760 --> 00:01:17,440 minutes and then from our regular meeting that 16 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:21,120 we held and we had a special meeting on um 17 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:24,760 June 30th. Did you guys have any corrections or 18 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:27,640 changes? >> No. 19 00:01:25,320 --> 00:01:27,640 » No. 20 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:37,800 » I make a motion to approve the minutes of our regular meeting held on 21 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:42,320 6/8/25 and our special meeting held on 22 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:44,400 6/30/2025. >> They were 26. 23 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,040 » 26 >> Second. 24 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:49,920 » Oh, it did say >> So, we have a motion and a second. All 25 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:52,880 those in favor raise your right hand. Motion carries. 26 00:01:55,640 --> 00:02:02,120 And we're going to start our new business 27 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:07,040 for tonight. And we have a um resolution. 28 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:12,720 Um we're going to do a resolution to reduce the um 2026 budget for the park 29 00:02:10,679 --> 00:02:16,959 repairs and maintenance in the amount of $4,000 and we're going 30 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:20,480 to appropriate it in the year um the 2027 budget. 31 00:02:22,959 --> 00:02:32,320 So, our resolution is 2026-7-1, resolution by the Kirkland Town Council. 32 00:02:29,959 --> 00:02:36,360 We, the Kirkland Town Council, resolve to reduce the 2026 budget for the 33 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:42,000 following funds park repairs and maintenance 34 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:42,000 appropriation 2204.001.325.000 35 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:50,320 in the amount of $4,000 to be appropriated for the 2027 budget. 36 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:55,959 So, we have a resolution that's been presented. 37 00:02:54,360 --> 00:03:00,240 » I make a motion that we approve resolution 2026-7-1. 38 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:06,280 » Second. >> So, we have a motion and a second on 39 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:09,400 this resolution. All those in favor, raise your right hand. 40 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:12,480 Motion carries. And then 41 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:15,400 Carla has for us to sign, so you don't forget to sign it. 42 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:58,520 All right. We're going to move on to old business 43 00:03:55,840 --> 00:04:01,720 now and Billy, we have the park item first. 44 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:05,360 Old business. >> There's nothing new 45 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:11,200 at the park. Uh we're waiting uh delivery on the 46 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:14,280 merry-go-round and the installation of the 47 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:20,160 pour-in-place uh ADA 48 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:23,680 surround for the merry-go-round. Uh we do do not have an installation 49 00:04:22,280 --> 00:04:26,120 date at this time. >> Okay. 50 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:35,640 I have heard lots of compliments on the new playground equipment. 51 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:35,640 So. 52 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:45,080 And we're going to move on to the next item is storm water. 53 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:55,040 » Um the surveyor for Commonwealth will be here 54 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:58,560 on July the 16th. Uh he'll be going around town uh 55 00:04:57,160 --> 00:05:01,080 surveying uh the uh 56 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:07,840 uh known storm structures throughout town. 57 00:05:04,840 --> 00:05:10,560 So, if anybody sees him or asks questions, 58 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:14,840 uh that's who that will be. He'll be a 59 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:19,919 surveyor with Commonwealth starting on the 60 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:19,919 storm water stuff. 61 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,360 Okay. 62 00:05:29,919 --> 00:05:35,560 And now we're ready for you, Billy, on your utilities. 63 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:37,840 » All right. You have an update in front of you. 64 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:41,720 Uh I do not have 65 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:44,919 anything to add to that. 66 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:49,240 Go through ask questions. 67 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:10,440 We finally got all the storm brush cleaned up. 68 00:06:08,840 --> 00:06:15,880 Finally. Big help with the 69 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:20,680 doing it wells. They came in and gave a full 8 hours of work. 70 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:27,640 And they uh they together hauled about 71 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:31,000 14 of those dump trailer loads. Act. 72 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:34,120 So uh they they put enough on their dump 73 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:38,720 trailer that it would have taken about three or four of our dump trucks to 74 00:06:36,640 --> 00:06:41,240 actually put what they put on one load. So 75 00:06:39,080 --> 00:06:45,080 » And I know like Chris Ragsdale did some did some help with Drew and then Chris 76 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:48,440 did it again on Saturday with messing >> your stuff. 77 00:06:46,840 --> 00:06:49,919 » So that was a big thank you to them too for helping. 78 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:53,720 » Yeah. So there's >> There's a possibility we give Drew a 79 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:57,480 bonus for his work. Extra work that he did for storm clean 80 00:06:56,120 --> 00:07:02,440 up. >> Um I get we get 81 00:06:59,960 --> 00:07:05,520 also what ask his boss I that would come through Billy too. That would be if he'd 82 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:09,160 want to make a recommendation on do something like that. We get bonuses at 83 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:11,480 Christmas time too but I mean >> And maybe recognize the uh 84 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:15,720 » Yeah. >> town people that helped him as well. 85 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,720 » Yeah. 86 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:24,960 » I have a I a random question for you. I guess. You are in contact with INDOT 87 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:29,720 from time to time. Uh in Sheridan the sign for Kirkland is 88 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:34,120 misspelled. Yeah. So I don't know if you can contact 89 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:39,880 them about that. Um it's Kirk land out town 90 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:45,240 instead of Kirkland and it's right where Good Going and the Farmers Bank is 91 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:49,360 So We're going to be taking all that out 92 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:52,680 soon anyway for the roundabout they're building there. So that'd be a good time 93 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:55,800 for them to fix the sign. >> Oh yeah, that's true. 94 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:09,760 » Um I was going to ask Billy too like how the dump truck is. I know I it was down 95 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:13,560 and it was getting fixed. That was part of the delay on some of our pickup too. 96 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:16,520 Is it better or >> No. Um 97 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:25,680 Billy Scott was supposed to have fixed it. 98 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:31,600 Uh so we used it one Monday. Dropped it off at his shop that evening. 99 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:38,120 He pulled it into the shop. Uh and then the following Sunday 100 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:41,599 I checked with Adam to see if they had done anything. 101 00:08:39,599 --> 00:08:44,839 And they hadn't even touched it. So it set in his shop for about a week. 102 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:48,120 » Okay. >> Uh so now I'm looking for somebody else 103 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,560 to do the work. >> Okay. 104 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:14,000 And I know like under the I've got on your um 105 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:17,880 last item for the park department um 106 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:22,680 we had on there like the bridge and Duke Energy. I did talk to a 107 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:28,400 Bill Brock today and Brian Jones Electric and I know Bill's 108 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:32,240 going to be starting some of the um preliminary stuff for 109 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:35,760 for the um under boring and stuff like that. They're 110 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:39,240 going to get preliminary stuff done so Duke can come in and finish the, uh, 111 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:44,600 electrical stuff. So, there's prep work that I guess Ryan 112 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,600 Jones has to do first, so. 113 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:52,200 You guys have any other questions or anything for Billy or 114 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:58,680 Okay. Okay. >> But but but Billy, have they ever done 115 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:04,600 any probing over there where they want to build that building? 116 00:10:00,560 --> 00:10:04,600 Every time I ask Bill Brock, he's 117 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:09,000 » I have no idea. I mean 118 00:10:07,680 --> 00:10:11,720 » You know what? We got into it several years ago. 119 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:16,920 » I mean, there's there's no utilities in that area. They may run into an old 120 00:10:14,680 --> 00:10:20,160 basement foundation or >> That's what I'm saying there. 121 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:23,480 » concrete structure, but you know, once they start digging into 122 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:28,040 it, I mean, they'll they'll either jackhammer it or bring in 123 00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:32,080 a larger excavator to get it out. >> I know the architects have been over 124 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:35,880 there and have have looked. Like from Mafia, I know they've been 125 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:38,520 over and looked at the the area. >> Yeah, they've they've walked the area, 126 00:10:37,560 --> 00:10:40,280 but I I don't know if >> I don't know if they broke it or not. I 127 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:45,400 don't know that. >> know that anybody's done any subsurface 128 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:50,760 inspections or whatever, but I mean the only thing they'll find is maybe an 129 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:54,760 old foundation or some area that was filled in if if the basement was in that 130 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:58,640 area. Um 131 00:10:55,920 --> 00:11:01,600 and if so, you know, what once it's inspected, once they get everything dug 132 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:04,280 out, uh, 133 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:09,040 in order to rectify all of that, they'll have to fill it in with homo fill. 134 00:11:08,040 --> 00:11:12,520 Um so, 135 00:11:10,839 --> 00:11:16,800 I mean, even if they run into something like 136 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:21,760 that underground, there are ways that APC requires the ground to be stable so 137 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:26,000 that they can still continue to build their building. 138 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:28,080 Uh, it may be a little extra cost to to the bridge or whatever. 139 00:11:26,839 --> 00:11:31,720 » Well, you seen what they got into several years ago when they wanted to 140 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:33,760 extend that track over there. >> Yeah. 141 00:11:32,560 --> 00:11:38,440 » That's footer was that big a square. 142 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:42,200 And uh somebody had their excavator over and 143 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:45,480 couldn't even move it. Russell had to bring his cuz 144 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:49,360 » I ran into that when I put that water line in. 145 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:54,160 Um of course there was another building set 146 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:57,760 beside the original where the basketball There was another building set there 147 00:11:55,760 --> 00:12:01,480 that I I believe. Uh it had the gym and and the bus 148 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:06,880 » So there's stuff anyway. >> When I put that water line in 149 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:10,600 I ran through or dug through what was the staircase to the basement. 150 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:17,680 » Yeah. >> Uh and we hauled uh we hauled 151 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:20,480 six loads of nothing but brick. >> Brick and junk. 152 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:24,560 » And then we had to fill it back in and then 153 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:26,640 I ran into a large uh concrete structure. 154 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:31,520 Uh Mike Henry brought his big excavator out 155 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:37,800 there and we barely got it on the truck. We barely got it hauled off so 156 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:41,480 it it took the whole truck to to haul it but 157 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:46,839 uh yeah, I mean there's no telling what they're going to run into. 158 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:51,120 Uh but whatever they do there are ways that can stabilize the ground and they 159 00:12:48,680 --> 00:12:56,040 can build whatever they need to do. >> Yeah, that part where that building is, 160 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:59,920 where the tennis court and such is, that's where the new building was, the 161 00:12:57,640 --> 00:13:04,200 high school. And then west of that was the gymnasium. The big old brick 162 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:06,480 building was to the south. >> Mhm. 163 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:10,200 » And it had basement in it. >> Yeah, the the big brick The original big 164 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:18,120 brick building uh one of the sidewalks 165 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:22,480 uh well, I took one out 2 3 years ago that went to the original building and 166 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:26,280 it was just right behind where the flower bed is now. 167 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:34,840 But yeah, I mean anytime you dig, it's going to be an adventure. 168 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:37,560 I mean, I found that out when we put the uh 169 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:41,200 playground equipment in and stuff like that. 170 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:43,560 I hauled two or three backhoe buckets of brick 171 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:47,440 we dug out. I mean, nothing major, but I mean, it 172 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:51,240 was enough to uh keep playing. >> Yeah, a lot of that back in the day was 173 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:54,760 playground anyway. To the south and then all around. 174 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:59,720 » Yeah. I do I do know that where the the kiddie 175 00:13:57,560 --> 00:14:05,880 playground area is is where the old septic tank for the 176 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:10,560 school system was. And uh 177 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,560 yeah, it's it's huge. 178 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:17,720 » Yeah, Phil Brock knows a lot about that if you want to ever ask any questions on 179 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,720 it. He's got some funny stories. 180 00:14:20,960 --> 00:14:24,960 Are you anything else? >> No. 181 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:28,200 » Okay, I'm going to move on to um Steve for the marshal. 182 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:37,080 » I think Terrace sent you a copy of the monthly report. We had uh 183 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:42,320 79 traffic stops. Out of those, we issued 14 traffic citations. 184 00:14:39,880 --> 00:14:45,880 We had 43 incident reports and four criminal arrests. 185 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:50,520 Um I'm working on some Department of 186 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:55,720 Homeland Security or a Department of Homeland Security grant now. 187 00:14:53,400 --> 00:15:00,600 In hopes of receiving some grant funding for new two-way radio equipment. Try to 188 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:04,040 head off um a need we're going to have in a couple years when the state 189 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:08,640 upgrades their state way radio system that we operate on. 190 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:14,800 All the uh all but two of our current radios will be inoperable on that new 191 00:15:11,839 --> 00:15:18,160 upgrade. And so, we're trying to head that off so we don't have an 192 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:22,839 expense in the future. And then, I've been gathering 193 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:26,000 information on the speed limit signs. And they're getting information on the 194 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:29,200 permitting process for that from the state highway. 195 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:33,600 And uh the town of Rushville 196 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:36,840 just recently put in uh three of those and uh 197 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:39,680 as well as the did the town of Dayton. So, I've been to meet Cape with their 198 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:43,400 marshals and got some information from them on that. 199 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:47,280 They've been a big help. I just wanted to thank our reserve 200 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:51,800 officer uh Brandon Garber the night of the storm. He drove out 201 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:54,560 here from Kokomo and stayed several hours and helped me 202 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:58,480 um and again, he's a reserve and he doesn't 203 00:15:56,560 --> 00:16:02,800 get paid and that that was a big help and then he spent about all day 204 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:05,720 on Saturday assisting me with the uh festival. So, 205 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:08,520 um he did a good job and I appreciate all that he did. 206 00:16:07,120 --> 00:16:11,880 And uh Officer Turner and Officer White have 207 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:16,200 done a really good job. We all work well together and the transmission transition 208 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:20,240 has been smooth and I appreciate everybody's support. 209 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:26,080 Um I did go over and talk with the librarian the other day about the camera 210 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:31,200 view of the power line uh for the Narcan box. 211 00:16:27,920 --> 00:16:34,920 And I showed that to uh Billy the other day and really the only place 212 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:39,040 that's got a really good view is right around the fire hydrant. 213 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:44,839 And we don't want people pulling up parking by fire hydrant. 214 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:49,360 Um you can see off in the distance or up by 421 and back around by the tower, but 215 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:52,800 it's just it's not as good as up around fire hydrant. 216 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:57,040 But after talking to Billy, I don't we don't see and correct me if I'm wrong, 217 00:16:55,160 --> 00:17:00,720 Billy, but I think the consensus was is we really don't see a need that needs to 218 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:02,680 be videoed anyway. >> True. 219 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:06,640 » Um that's something that they're going to be if they're going for that, it's 220 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:09,319 going to be an emergency and I don't I don't feel that they're going to be 221 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:13,959 tampering with it. At Rossville, we mounted the one that we have 222 00:17:11,520 --> 00:17:18,839 on the side of the utility garage, which is a block north of 20 26 223 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:22,400 on the east end of town. We've not had any issues with that. 224 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:26,240 And uh >> Would we just stick that on like a pole 225 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:31,960 over there then? Yes, that's the >> It's not real big. It's just It's just a 226 00:17:29,400 --> 00:17:34,680 little bitty box and you can put a 4 by 4 post or something in the ground 227 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:37,640 and mount it on that. >> Okay. 228 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:40,120 » It It won't be our responsibility to maintain it or refill it. 229 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:43,560 » Okay. >> We just 230 00:17:41,240 --> 00:17:45,920 allowing someone to have a place to put it. 231 00:17:43,920 --> 00:17:50,160 » Okay. >> So that's my recommendation. Um 232 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:54,520 » So maybe like on the on the opposite side of the where the fire hydrant maybe 233 00:17:52,360 --> 00:17:56,760 the opposite side like behind it? Like on the other side of it? Is that what 234 00:17:55,640 --> 00:18:03,920 you're thinking or >> Well, it it can't be anywhere within 235 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:05,920 30 ft of the fire hydrant because Oh, got you. Okay. 236 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:09,240 » Yeah. >> I didn't realize that. Okay. 237 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:15,880 » In fact, the fire department actually wants some type of drive barrier system 238 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:18,840 there so that nobody can park within >> Okay. 239 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:21,840 » that distance uh because they can't get to the fire hydrant most of the time 240 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:26,240 when um 241 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:30,720 the library is in operation or you know, events downtown or when Bookers has a 242 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:33,040 you know, a special evening or whatever. So 243 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:36,520 » So where would you Where would you or Billy Where would you guys recommend 244 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:38,760 putting this post then? Like a like an exact location 245 00:18:37,360 --> 00:18:41,000 » think I don't I don't know that Billy and I really come 246 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:44,360 up with that a place, but I I don't see why we 247 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:49,200 wouldn't want to just put it up on the west end out by 421. 248 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:51,840 And uh that way if somebody's needing it, they can pull right in there and get 249 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:53,920 to it and it's well out of the way of the fire hydrant 250 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:57,120 » Like at the edge of like where the gravel and the grass is like kind of 251 00:18:55,480 --> 00:19:02,160 right there? Like that edge, right? Okay. 252 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:02,160 » I think that'd be all right. 253 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:12,240 » You know, it might be a good idea to have a written agreement with 254 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:16,280 the organization that's providing it as to making it clear that it it is 255 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:19,800 » Not our responsibility. >> It is their responsibility 256 00:19:18,360 --> 00:19:22,800 and to maintain it and 257 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:25,840 to keep it 258 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:30,400 filled and that we're not we don't have any 259 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:32,960 responsibility if it's damaged or >> Or if it's empty and it's needed. 260 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:38,000 » Mhm. >> Or yeah and and somebody then 261 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:41,560 » Or somebody has an adverse effect to it they can't sue the town either. 262 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:44,880 » That's right. >> It's a bad batch. You know, you just 263 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:49,040 don't even know. Yeah. 264 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:53,480 And then I gave you there's and there was an electronic version of 265 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:57,400 one quote and then I was able to receive a second quote and I didn't have time to 266 00:19:55,400 --> 00:20:00,760 get that verified and I sent out a copy to everybody. 267 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:05,000 The night of the storm well, I noticed when I took over the some of the 268 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:08,480 emergency lighting on the F-150 were acting funky and not acting quite 269 00:20:07,040 --> 00:20:13,080 right. And then the night of the storm 270 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:18,360 I was driving the Explorer and Randall was driving the Ford pickup truck 271 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:22,960 and he came up here to help me with some traffic 421 and 38 and I asked him I 272 00:20:21,360 --> 00:20:28,360 said what's going on with those lights and he said that they they 273 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:30,880 malfunctioned for quite a while. So I 274 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:34,800 took it over to Lafayette to give it to the spear. They looked at it and the 275 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:39,720 lights on that truck are holding moisture. 276 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:42,960 And what's happening is is when it gets a certain amount of 277 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:46,600 moisture in those lights it's causing them to short. 278 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:51,200 And when they short, they change flash pattern, they change color or they just 279 00:20:49,120 --> 00:20:55,840 don't even work. And uh 280 00:20:53,240 --> 00:20:59,400 So the recommendation I spoke with three outfitters. 281 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:03,160 All three agreed that the lights that were put on that new that the brand of 282 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:07,240 those are Phoenix and apparently they're notorious for holding water. 283 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:11,600 They're out of warranty and the only way to rectify the situation is to replace 284 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:13,800 them with new lights. I mean, they water is included. There's nothing they can do 285 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:20,360 for us. >> Um on your quote from Tip of the Spear 286 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:24,360 and then move over Outfitters, are these I Are these the same quote? They They 287 00:21:22,880 --> 00:21:27,160 have them worded differently in the Outfitters compared to this one. So, are 288 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:31,400 these like >> They're different. One One company uses 289 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:34,640 one brand, another company uses another. >> Okay, that's why 290 00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:39,480 » They're When When you After you sift through it, there's a $154.26 291 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:43,960 difference between the two. >> Okay. 292 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:48,360 » The one that's the lower of the two, my only concern with that is is if you read 293 00:21:46,360 --> 00:21:53,400 through the quotes, and I highlighted on the second one that I gave you, 294 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:55,640 they've left a lot of leeway for unknowns. 295 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:59,600 » Okay. >> And we may have to charge for this, we 296 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:02,760 may have to charge for that. There's a couple items on there that they don't 297 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:05,440 know what they're going to use at this point. I don't know how they quoted 298 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:10,360 something that they don't know what they're going to use, but they did. 299 00:22:07,360 --> 00:22:13,760 The other estimate And And that estimate there, they didn't even have me bring 300 00:22:12,360 --> 00:22:17,320 the truck and look at it. They just wanted me to text them pictures, and 301 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:19,840 they gave me a quote off of pictures. >> Okay. 302 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:27,600 » I wouldn't trust over the last The estimate that's $154 more, 303 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:32,520 he has even included making back plates if he needs to on his laser printer to 304 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:36,760 make sure everything fits right. Um I I just feel that for $154, I feel a 305 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:39,680 lot more comfortable comfortable with the with the quote from Tip of the 306 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:44,320 Spear. He took over an hour of his time. I 307 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:47,200 drove it over there, he looked at it. Um I mean, he he wrote He He thoroughly 308 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:51,640 inspected it. >> Well, I also noticed on um the Tip of 309 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:56,360 the Spear, like his Whelen light heads 310 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:59,600 have a 10-year warranty on them. >> That was going to be my next point, yes. 311 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:03,560 » Oh, okay. I just >> Yeah. 312 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:07,760 So, it would be my recommendation um that if if you do approve moving forward 313 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:13,080 with fixing these lights that we left up at the spear tip of the spear did did 314 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:17,360 just outfit a new Tahoe for the Roscoe Police Department. And he did a very 315 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:22,800 nice job. Everything works good. It's all professional. And uh 316 00:23:20,120 --> 00:23:25,920 the Roscoe voters happy with it. So, that would be my recommendation. 317 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:29,600 But other than that, I don't have anything else unless you have questions. 318 00:23:30,040 --> 00:23:34,560 » I have a question. Uh there's been a lot of dump trucks 319 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:38,400 flying through here. Have you stopped any of those? 320 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:40,640 » We had 79 traffic stops. And there's semis and dump trucks through all of 321 00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,080 them. >> Good. 322 00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:50,240 We don't have insurance that covers nothing on that truck or is that sort of 323 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:55,200 like a specialty and there's nothing to cover that? 324 00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:55,200 » No, that's just normal wear and tear. 325 00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:59,600 Added equipment on the truck. 326 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:13,920 » And I think that's probably like Your your light burning out in your car 327 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:15,320 is not covered. If If uh hail breaks it, it is. 328 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,760 » Right. >> Right. 329 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:28,200 » So, Steve's presented us with a couple of um quotes. 330 00:24:26,360 --> 00:24:32,040 Do you have any other questions for him on these or 331 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:36,160 does anyone want to entertain a motion if no other questions or 332 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:39,360 » I like Tip of the Spear. Especially like you said, it's warrant they do. 333 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:47,120 » Did you make a motion, Craig? >> I have not yet. 334 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,120 » Oh, okay. 335 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:57,360 » I make a motion to accept Tip of the Spear's estimate to get the lights fixed 336 00:24:55,280 --> 00:25:00,800 on the Um, police truck. 337 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:08,160 » I'll second that. >> The amount's uh 2,699.66. 338 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:11,800 Yeah. So, we have a motion and a second. All 339 00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:16,960 those in favor raise your right hand. Motion carries. 340 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,960 » Thank you. 341 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:27,720 » Did you want to talk about the speed signs or no or 342 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:31,600 » I can. They're >> I Not that, just for us to look at. 343 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:33,200 » I just got a quote today >> Okay. 344 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:38,120 » uh for four of the speed signs at $7,000. 345 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:42,440 » Okay. >> And I am uh 346 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:46,800 exploring a couple angles. I'm trying to get some grant funding and other means 347 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:50,880 of funding for those. The town of Rushville, he was able to 348 00:25:48,360 --> 00:25:54,640 get all three of his paid for at no expense to the town. So, there's there's 349 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:58,080 stuff out there. I just I've had a lot on my plate trying to get all the stuff 350 00:25:56,360 --> 00:26:01,320 switched over out of Brennan's name and into mine. Then we had the festival and 351 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:04,000 we had the storm. And I'm not as far along as I wanted to 352 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,760 be, but >> No, thanks for even 353 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:09,280 » I'm working on >> getting something. Yeah, it's exciting 354 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:13,120 to even see it. So, yeah. >> What's really neat uh the the marshal at 355 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:18,320 uh Michigan Town is looking at them, too. 356 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:23,960 And and he was explaining to me that he can pull up next to that his car and 357 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:28,400 through Wi-Fi he can download it it's keeps a traffic count. 358 00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:32,480 And it gives you it'll break it down by time of day, the average speed of the 359 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:37,400 vehicle coming through. So, you can use that data to decide when 360 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:42,320 you need to have targeted enforcement for excessive speed. 361 00:26:39,360 --> 00:26:42,320 » Oh, that's pretty cool. 362 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:47,480 I get Jerry and I could probably tell you times right off the top of our 363 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:51,080 heads. >> I'll tell you what, I've been 364 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:55,080 Of those four criminal arrests that we had, 365 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:58,560 uh one was a reckless driving. I had been to Frankfort to take care of some 366 00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:04,640 stuff one day and I was just north of town and got one at 95 mph. 367 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:07,720 And it just it amazes me. And if they're running that well and 368 00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:13,440 then I had another one. I was sitting in the parking in the gravel lot at the uh, 369 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:17,560 substation and was running radars they were coming 370 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:19,240 in town and had one at 87 coming into that 40. 371 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:22,560 » Oh, wow. >> And it's just it If they're running that 372 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:25,120 fast at the edge of town, how fast are they running in town? 373 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,080 » Wow. >> So, 374 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:30,600 we've been busy. >> Yeah, thank you. 375 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,600 » Thank you. 376 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,800 Wow. >> And if you have anything else then 377 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,760 Steve, you're done? >> No, I said thank you. 378 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:40,840 » Um, we're going to move on to the clerk treasurer items. 379 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:51,800 I'm just signing the checks. So, Carolyn needs us to sign some of the um, 380 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:51,800 regular documents for Tara. 381 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:20,200 All of these documents we're signing have already in our packets for her from 382 00:28:18,120 --> 00:28:23,600 Tara. So, we've already seen all the all these documents, so. 383 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:29,120 We just have to sign officially for her so she has her signature on it. 384 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,640 Do you get all your steps on? >> Yes. 385 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:55,960 » Everything signed? Okay. >> Okay. 386 00:28:54,120 --> 00:29:01,520 » Um the other thing that she had in our packet was um 387 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:05,760 we had a um adjustment from Jason Moore. 388 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:12,280 I didn't know if you guys had time to look at the adjustment on that. I think 389 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:12,280 it looks pretty looks pretty standard. 390 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:18,720 » Did he just put the water portion cuz the sewer was already removed? 391 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,520 Cuz we are uh 392 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:25,240 somewhere else. >> The summary summary sprinkling. 393 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:28,880 » Yeah, so it's just 316. >> For the water? 394 00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:33,120 » Mhm. It's just that he had a um leak under his house. 395 00:29:30,160 --> 00:29:33,120 » Oh, wow. Okay. 396 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:40,400 I was going to say that um I was a little bit I just showed you how 397 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:44,360 our system we have these water meters that can read them 398 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:48,120 because the antique seller had a leak and they saw that it was unusual for her 399 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:52,360 to have like a high amount. >> Mhm. 400 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:55,960 » And so they sent her a message or put a thing on her door and she got it shut 401 00:29:54,880 --> 00:30:00,480 off and got it fixed and it wasn't enough to 402 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:02,800 like have turn it leak adjustment because you guys had notified her ahead 403 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,760 of time. >> Right. 404 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,400 » Like she didn't wait till like a month and then 405 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:10,160 » Mhm. >> So that was nice that you guys caught 406 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:13,040 it, sent a flag over there and then that you know, that saved money. Like she's 407 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,920 not worried about it so she's not going to turn a leak adjustment in. 408 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,120 » Yes. >> So she caught it. We caught it in time 409 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,200 so >> Yeah. 410 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:22,040 » That's pretty cool our system can help catch it, you know, if they notice it in 411 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:26,400 time. Yeah. >> Yeah. 412 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,400 » So. 413 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:35,760 Um >> I make a motion to approve the 414 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:38,320 » the leak adjustment. Okay. >> I'll second. 415 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:43,040 » So we have a motion, a second. All those in favor raise your right hand. 416 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:43,040 Motion carries. 417 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:59,040 And under the council members, um, I was going to just, um, 418 00:30:54,520 --> 00:31:04,600 bring up the, uh, Legion is having I think it was like, um, I don't know if 419 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:11,440 it was Tipton or They're having a 420 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:11,440 75 bikes on Saturday the 25th. 421 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:21,240 I don't know if Oh, it was Cicero. Cicero's doing the ride. It's for no 422 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:25,600 left no vet left behind. But they wanted to know if they could 423 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:30,920 block off Madison Street, um, like maybe possibly like the alley to 424 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:35,400 the post office just a little bit of it to help get the bikes in. Probably like 425 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:38,920 maybe like 11:30 to 2:00. They're only there about an hour. 426 00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:40,960 So, they were kind of just wanting to know if it would be okay for them to and 427 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:44,800 then to shut it down just a short time to get 428 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:47,800 the bikes to have them 429 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:50,440 I've already talked to the antique seller cuz she just asked how long it 430 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:54,280 was going to be. Is it going to be all day? And I said, "No, I don't think so." 431 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:59,920 So, I did get verification like probably like 11:30 to 2:00 or something. 432 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:03,640 So, I can let them know that we don't have a problem with it or 433 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:06,040 okay. >> What day is it? 434 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,960 » The 25th. >> Of 435 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,840 » July. >> July? 436 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,840 » Yeah. 437 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:19,240 Is that kind of like a poker run kind of thing where they stop in and they just 438 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:22,560 they're only there to do lunch or snack or something then they 439 00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,840 get back on the bikes and then head off again or 440 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,680 » They ride from Bart to Bart. >> Bart, okay. 441 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:32,600 » I've been on some of those rides. >> Okay. 442 00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,880 » You didn't hear that, Steve. 443 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:41,000 » That's a long time ago, right? >> That was a long 444 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:44,320 think. >> Yeah, 445 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:48,360 if they need cones or barricades, have them contact me. 446 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,360 » Okay. 447 00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:54,840 And then on the barricades, do you have a couple of the bridge barricades 448 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:57,200 or did we get them back? There's a couple of I don't know if I got all of 449 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:59,480 them back yet. >> No, I put them 450 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,840 » You got them back? >> Yeah. 451 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:04,760 » One of them was broke. >> Yeah, one of the legs was broke. I've 452 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,720 got it at the shop. >> Okay, that's great. 453 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:10,240 » but yeah, I dropped them off. I built them. 454 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:18,160 » And then the other thing I was going to add in here, um 455 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:20,720 Dan Carlisle gave each of us a letter and I don't know if you guys want to 456 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:24,400 just, um let's take the time to like read this 457 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:28,080 letter from him and you know, look at it and we can table 458 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,720 bring this up at our next meeting so that'll give us time to 459 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:34,320 since we didn't have it before the meeting, but I wanted to at least bring 460 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:39,560 that up that he did give us a letter. And it's on the VS storm water issues. 461 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:43,600 So, it's the storm water flooding and fee increase. So, he that's what the 462 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:47,080 letter is about, so. Um does any other council members have 463 00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:50,200 anything before I close the meeting? 464 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:57,840 » The only thing I've got, I think I've talked to Billy about it, is 465 00:33:55,640 --> 00:34:02,960 the weather we're doing the church down here for the wedding venue thing. 466 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:08,080 I met with that guy and went in the basement 467 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:14,520 and uh his sump pump pit is on the west end of his building close to 38 468 00:34:11,159 --> 00:34:18,760 and turned the pump on and held it on and there's a 6-in tile 469 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:21,120 that goes towards the alley. >> I mean, we talked about that in our 470 00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:25,840 special meeting >> Well, it just kept coming and coming. 471 00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:29,120 » And the way I understand it, there's no maps 472 00:34:27,879 --> 00:34:32,600 of the drain there. So, So, that's plugged 473 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:34,800 there, I mean, it never shut off, just kept running. 474 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,960 » Yeah, that Billy note, yeah, we know about that. 475 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,960 » Well, uh 476 00:34:38,080 --> 00:34:42,840 need to locate the ditch out there and see why 477 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:45,200 if it's plugged ahead of it, that could be a lot of his problems. 478 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,600 » Yeah. >> I mean, 479 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:53,240 » We also >> to start somewhere. 480 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:56,320 » Yeah, we also discussed that in our um when we've had meetings with the storm 481 00:34:54,760 --> 00:35:01,360 water, like with the engineers and stuff, we brought those same issues up 482 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:05,440 to them. So, they know about too. So, we told them things that we are 483 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:08,520 curious about. >> So, many people knows about it, but 484 00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:12,600 nobody's doing nothing. That's what bothers me. 485 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,600 Uh 486 00:35:13,720 --> 00:35:21,880 get cameras down there and run down the alley, and find out where it's plugged. 487 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:24,600 It's simple thing to do. And 488 00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:28,000 one at a time is going to help, just like the stuff we done some years ago 489 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:31,600 south here. Every little bit you do helps, but if 490 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:35,680 it's not getting away, I mean, I stood there and watched it. 491 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:40,800 It continued, it just kept running and running until it got to a certain 492 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:42,680 height. It It kept going north. Cuz if that would come in the well, 493 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,800 what's it going to do in there? >> Yes. 494 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:48,720 » talked about. >> Yes, they're they're going to like 495 00:35:46,720 --> 00:35:51,200 do as-built drawings for us, so we know like where all the issues are at. 496 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:55,080 » And they're going to >> So, that's why they're investigating. 497 00:35:53,720 --> 00:35:57,440 There's so many issues, that's why they're going to help us locate them. 498 00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:01,520 So. >> If we could do it on our own without a 499 00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:06,120 bunch of grants and stuff, we could jet something out 500 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:08,480 and get it open and going. Just 501 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:14,640 plugged down there on the north end of town. 502 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:19,520 And Francis Street and Ohio. You run a camera up this way, it comes 503 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:22,920 at utility pole there and stops. And needs dug up, see what's wrong. 504 00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:26,520 » I've heard about that. I heard about that one, too. Yeah. 505 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:29,680 » But, we keep talking about it, and and nothing's ever done. 506 00:36:32,840 --> 00:36:38,960 And the water stands there in Stuart's backyard in that pit. Jet it on and see 507 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:43,520 why. Well, somebody said something about the 508 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:46,560 roots in there. Jet them out there. Every little bit we do is going to help 509 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:49,360 some. >> Where is that telephone pole? Where at 510 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:53,160 it? What telephone pole? >> Uh 511 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:57,480 Where that guy bought Ragsdale's old trailer down there. 512 00:36:55,520 --> 00:37:02,360 And that little double-wide trailer across there, that utility pole on the 513 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:05,680 on Ohio Street. This been years ago. They run a camera, it come to that 514 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:09,560 utility pole and stopped right at this way. 515 00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:13,520 And it comes from the Christian church and goes clear to about there and stops. 516 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:18,640 And we got to do something. We can't just keep waiting on them. 517 00:37:17,240 --> 00:37:25,120 Grants and big money to engineer something when we 518 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:25,120 see little simple things ourselves. 519 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:34,000 We do. >> I mean, I just know that our employees 520 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:36,280 have a lot on their plate. >> They do. And here lately it's been 521 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:39,480 really really >> really bad. That's 522 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:46,960 » What does Jay charge when he comes out from 523 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:52,360 Eagle's construction? Like to run a camera or jet something? 524 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:55,600 It's not that expensive, is it? >> It is. 525 00:37:56,040 --> 00:38:07,040 Usually, if they're here an hour, it usually runs anywhere between $800 to 526 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:07,040 $1,000. 527 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:13,200 Maybe less, depending on what they have to do. 528 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:17,400 Uh There's a There's a minimum charge, and 529 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:21,200 then they charge mileage. Well, actually, they charge 530 00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:26,720 When when they crank the truck up at the lot, that's when they start their time. 531 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:32,360 And then when they park it in the lot, that's when they end their time. 532 00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:37,880 Uh so it usually runs between 8 800 and $1,000 every time they come to town. 533 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:41,200 » Well, if we've got things set up and ready, it wouldn't take them that long 534 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:47,600 to do their job. >> No, and and I've I've used 535 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:51,880 uh vac truck companies in the past. Uh in fact, I've jotted down some uh 536 00:38:50,720 --> 00:38:56,120 kind of rough drawings of storm drains and stuff 537 00:38:54,600 --> 00:39:02,960 in the area. Um basically, there there are no maps. 538 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:06,800 Um you can ask Joe Blow if he knows something, but you can take that with a 539 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:09,920 grain of salt because most of the people in town that know 540 00:39:08,240 --> 00:39:13,880 something are, you know, >> They're gone. 541 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:18,920 » Yeah. Uh especially, you know, I mean, Burl Tharp was a big help out here in 542 00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:23,360 the in the minute town. Um 543 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:27,440 but I've done some some rough sketches, and basically what I have done 544 00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:32,880 and we don't have a whole lot of storm money to work with. So if I do that two 545 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:35,280 three four times, I'm broke. We're done. Um 546 00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:40,640 so uh uh 547 00:39:37,520 --> 00:39:46,400 usually what we did was was was we would pick a storm drain, pop the lid, 548 00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:50,360 and whatever lines come in or out, we would just pick one 549 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:54,200 and go as far as we could, uh 550 00:39:51,440 --> 00:40:00,280 get a distance, size, what type it was, we come back out, we go back in another. 551 00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:04,440 Uh I know there's one over here uh 552 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:08,680 Ohio and 553 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:12,240 uh Oh goodness gracious, it's it's either 554 00:40:11,240 --> 00:40:16,520 » Adams Street. >> Uh no, it's not all it's not that far 555 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:19,440 down. It's it's Monroe. Uh 556 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:23,400 pull the lid on that one and there's a half a dozen lines coming in and out 557 00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:26,280 going every direction. Um 558 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:29,680 that was one thing Earl Tharp always talked about. Nobody go along with him. 559 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:33,840 They're worth it. They parked out the front of their house. 560 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:38,080 He said he took uh come to a board meeting and took people 561 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:41,400 down there and showed them and nobody want to do nothing about it. And they 562 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:44,640 filled it in. They had it dug up. And now I I knew it years ago. 563 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:49,120 » Yeah. Um I do know there on on Monroe there's a 564 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:52,800 storm drain on the corner of Monroe and 421 565 00:40:50,600 --> 00:41:00,440 uh which goes east all the way to that particular manhole 566 00:40:56,360 --> 00:41:04,560 somewhere in in the area of uh um Ohio. 567 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:08,080 Um and we've had trouble with it. 568 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,600 » When it When that that is >> in the 569 00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:15,320 » one of the >> Some of the issues that are causing 570 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:20,720 issues now is because of lack of oversight when people would put in 571 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:26,960 sewer lines, water lines, they would just go right through storm drains 572 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:30,120 and depending on what it is, you can't reroute. 573 00:41:29,240 --> 00:41:33,880 Um sewer lines based on the need for 574 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:39,000 elevation. Uh and if you do storm drains up or 575 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:42,600 down, you're either going to it's not going to fix that either. So 576 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:47,960 uh there's a lot of rerouting of stuff that 577 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:50,160 needs to be done around town. Uh 578 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:56,160 you know, some of these things may be small, but uh 579 00:41:52,840 --> 00:42:01,440 you know, added together they all gets big. It's It's in a It's in the 580 00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:05,880 area. You know, an area may have half a dozen or more issues that need to 581 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:11,040 be fixed. Uh 582 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:14,240 and another big issue that this town has is when they first put all this stuff 583 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:18,120 in, they didn't bank on growth. 584 00:42:16,240 --> 00:42:24,160 So, a lot of these storm drains were too small and cannot handle some of the 585 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:29,120 larger rains that we've gotten over the past several years. 586 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:34,320 Now, there at George's when they his basement starts getting 587 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:37,480 wet, if they just that going east, yeah, that's there. What is it they get out of 588 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:39,680 there? Is it tree roots or what is it? >> No, it it's sediment. 589 00:42:39,240 --> 00:42:45,960 » Sediment? >> Sediment. And he's what that one is one 590 00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:50,480 where there is a waterline goes right through it. 591 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:53,800 Um and uh when sediment gets up so far, then you know, the size of the 592 00:42:51,720 --> 00:42:58,280 waterline, you know, even decreases the flow even more. 593 00:42:56,520 --> 00:43:01,680 Prime example of a of a 594 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:07,240 storm drain that was put in too small. One there at my house 595 00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:13,000 that was connecting Westman Road to 38. It is way too small for what the big 596 00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:18,520 heavy rains that come. In fact, the last two, three heavy rains, 597 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:24,040 uh water was halfway up to my house. And you know, uh Laura Sheets across the 598 00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:28,960 road, it was almost up to her garage. Um so, uh 599 00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:33,480 but you know, when the rain stopped, 24 hours later, it was gone. 600 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:37,320 But it was just it's just sized too small to carry what 601 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:40,000 » And I don't have much fall from this street or that way. 602 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:44,240 » No, it that >> They couldn't for the elevation on this 603 00:43:42,240 --> 00:43:48,440 end. >> I know the other thing that we're 604 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:51,600 worried about, too, is like you know, we want to get some storm 605 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:55,840 water issues fixed, but we're also worried about we may have to look at 606 00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:58,080 Excel's project. Cuz I feel like that he's been up here 607 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:01,400 and been >> priority that needs to be done. 608 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:04,640 » That's where we may have to spend some more money. That's why we're worried 609 00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:09,800 about our storm water account because if we do 610 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:12,480 that project we're it's going to put us even shorter. 611 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:15,720 So, that's the other reason why we've been talking about an increase and the 612 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:19,600 need of it because we don't have the money to go do cameras and 613 00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:23,000 » Yeah. >> So, that's why we're trying to get some 614 00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:24,040 of the grants up to help us in the long run. 615 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,720 » Yeah. >> So. 616 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:29,920 » And there's, you know, there's two or three projects in town that need to be 617 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:33,920 done. They're on Elizaville Road. From Elizaville Road back up to the 618 00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:37,880 cemetery that needs to be a swell that goes along all all the way behind those 619 00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:42,000 people's homes so that they drain their backyards, 620 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:46,840 drain it down to Elizaville Road, and possibly put a 2-ft culvert underneath 621 00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:49,680 Elizaville Road and let it drain over into the cornfield. 622 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:53,680 » Okay. >> Uh 623 00:44:50,240 --> 00:44:55,680 needs to be an open ditch cut from um 624 00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:58,520 uh I can't 625 00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:01,880 figure out the lady's name that lives there in that trailer there on 626 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,680 Elizaville, but it needs to be an open ditch 627 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,600 » Is that Jan Carl or? >> Yeah. 628 00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:08,120 » Jan. >> Uh needs to be an open ditch where some 629 00:45:06,120 --> 00:45:12,720 new culverts put in underneath driveways and the roadway 630 00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:14,680 from there to 38. >> Okay. 631 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:20,160 » Um and then over around Dan Carl. 632 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:24,520 All of that needs to be open ditch, drains need to be a lot larger. 633 00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:27,400 Uh in fact, the one uh >> No, it's his in the front or his in the 634 00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:30,280 back? >> issue is in the front. 635 00:45:29,720 --> 00:45:32,960 Uh but I do know there's some issues 636 00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:36,000 behind. >> Okay. 637 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:40,120 » Um but the one of the big issues in the front is 638 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:45,360 over time the ditches have filled in. They need to be re-elevated, re-shot 639 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:48,720 from grade from uh 640 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:52,600 that in-house all the way down to Adams Street. 641 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:56,080 Uh new culverts put in 12 in or bigger. 642 00:45:55,200 --> 00:46:03,320 Uh I do know that there is a flexible tile 643 00:45:59,240 --> 00:46:07,000 drain, but it's only about 4 in. So, it's not going to carry a whole lot, 644 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:12,320 and even and if it's plugged up, it's not going to carry anything. 645 00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:17,080 So, there's there's issues that can be done. 646 00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:21,800 Um problem is our storm water budget doesn't have a whole lot. Uh if we do 647 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:25,920 two or three projects ourselves, then we're we're done. 648 00:46:27,080 --> 00:46:33,040 » Now, we open that up, and then we just shove more water down the sun chaser. 649 00:46:31,240 --> 00:46:36,360 » Well, that's where we're going >> got a swimming pool there. 650 00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:39,000 » Yeah, we're we're hoping when it gets in our good yard 651 00:46:39,480 --> 00:46:44,840 » I'm not that person. I'm not pushing it all down there. 652 00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:48,640 » Well, I mean, we're we're hopefully you know, we got to do something cuz I mean, 653 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:53,200 we fixed up all of our stuff, and then the county refuses to 654 00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:56,520 you know, we've done us, but >> Right. 655 00:46:53,440 --> 00:47:01,960 » and we fixed us, but that doesn't fix the total issue. So, that's why we're 656 00:46:58,720 --> 00:47:07,080 working in conjunction with the county so that we can get this comprehensive 657 00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:13,960 study done to find out where the shortfalls are, where the problems are 658 00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:19,320 and then once we do all of that, find out where everything is flowing to, what 659 00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:23,880 quadrant of town it's flowing out of then we can put a comprehensive plan 660 00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:29,640 together that says, "Okay, X amount of gallons of water, we need 661 00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:34,280 12-in tile here. X amount, we need 18, 24, 36." You know, just it depends. 662 00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:38,800 Uh and just like anything, the the clay 663 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:43,080 tile structure is failing. Uh 664 00:47:39,720 --> 00:47:49,240 so, I mean, it's just it's it's it's a it's it's a system that's been 665 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:53,840 put in for decades, and it's been band-aided for decades. Nothing 666 00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:58,160 permanent uh to take the worry off of not having 667 00:47:55,760 --> 00:48:00,240 to do anything for the future as ever been done. 668 00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:03,800 » What would you replace that with? Double wall? 669 00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:07,040 » It depends on where it's at. Depends on the location. Dual wall 670 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:10,080 plastic pipe. Um 671 00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:14,360 it can pretty much be used anywhere and everywhere. 672 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:19,920 Um galvanized will eventually rust out. But everybody 673 00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:23,320 in this room will be long gone by the time that happens. 674 00:48:21,720 --> 00:48:26,880 Um dual wall even her. 675 00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:32,800 Oh yeah, even even her. My grandson will be 676 00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:36,520 retired before that happens. But anyway, um dual wall would be what I would 677 00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:42,280 recommend. Uh it is flexible enough that it can 678 00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:48,880 give a little but not a lot. Uh it's easy to install, easy to handle. 679 00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:52,840 Um and it uh it holds up no matter what quality of soil, stone, rock, sand, or 680 00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:56,800 whatever you put around it. It doesn't matter. 681 00:48:54,480 --> 00:49:01,680 And you know, depending on how you bed it, how you cover it, 682 00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:07,200 take a quarter inch drill, drill several holes, and it will 683 00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:11,760 actually, you know, not only drain from from areas, but it will also act as a 684 00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:16,280 French drain as well. So, I mean, there's there's things that can 685 00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:18,840 be done. Just depends on the situation. Depends on where you're at. 686 00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:22,160 » Yeah, where it's running through. >> Yeah. 687 00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:26,360 » My situation is is I can alleviate my problem. 688 00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:31,160 But the problem of it is there's utilities right next to that ditch that 689 00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:33,640 he's talking about. There's power there, there's water 690 00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:36,840 there, there's everything. >> Well, we don't It doesn't have to go It 691 00:49:35,720 --> 00:49:39,160 doesn't have to go >> Right. 692 00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,360 » It just needs to be deeper than what it is. 693 00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:44,640 » Right. >> I mean, the water lines in your area 694 00:49:42,680 --> 00:49:49,400 4 to 5 ft deep. Um sewer lines are behind the house and 695 00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:54,600 and whatever. So, um you know, 696 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:57,720 » And utilities should be 3 ft deep, but the minimum anyway. 697 00:49:56,120 --> 00:50:02,080 » Yeah, you know, you like your any communications or anything. 698 00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:06,760 » Yeah, of course you got AT&T, you got fiber optic, you got the the Comcast and 699 00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:11,120 all that kind of stuff and and depending on 700 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:15,960 who put it in, whatever, I mean, it could be anywhere between 6 in and 3 ft, 701 00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:15,960 so. 702 00:50:17,720 --> 00:50:20,560 » Okay, um 703 00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:26,240 is there anything else from the council or 704 00:50:24,240 --> 00:50:27,760 I'm going to join the meeting then. Do you have anything? 705 00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:31,160 » Nope. >> Okay, okay. Meeting adjourned. 706 00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:34,080 » Quick question.