[4:03] - This call to order. [4:04] (Mayor hits gavel) [4:05] As a courtesy to others, [4:06] please silence all electronic devices during this meeting. [4:10] Citizens desiring to speak under here the audience [4:12] shall submit a request form [4:14] to the city clerk prior to the meeting. [4:17] Forms are available at the door or from the city clerk. [4:21] At this time, we'll have a moment of silence [4:23] on the Pledge of Allegiance led by Commissioner Alvarez. [4:39] - Will you please join me in the Pledge of Allegiance [4:41] to the flag of the United States of America. [4:44] - I pledge allegiance to the flag [4:47] of the United States of America [4:49] and to republic for which it stands, [4:51] one nation under God, indivisible with liberty [4:55] and justice for all. [5:01] - Thank you, commissioner. [5:02] We now continue with proclamations [5:04] and special presentations. [5:07] Item 3A, proclamations to the Juneteenth Day. [5:10] Mike. [5:11] - Thank you, Madam Mayor. [5:12] Commissioners, if you would join Ms. Nina Hill [5:15] from the NAACP on the floor of the chambers. [5:19] Ms. Hill, if you would approach the commission. [5:27] Okay. [5:28] Okay. Oh, you guys are coming in, please. [5:30] Okay. [5:34] Oh my gosh. [5:36] I know you. [5:49] All right, this is a proclamation in honor [5:51] of Juneteenth Day. [5:53] Whereas Juneteenth or Juneteenth Independence Day [5:56] commemorates the traditional observance [5:57] of the end of slavery in the United States [5:59] and is observed annually on June 19th, [6:02] and whereas President Abraham Lincoln declared [6:05] that in giving freedom to the slave, we assured freedom [6:08] to the free, honorable alike in what we give [6:11] and what we preserve, we shall nobly save or meanly lose [6:14] the last best hope of Earth. [6:17] And whereas on January 1st, 1863, [6:19] President Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation [6:22] declaring that all persons held the slaves within any state [6:25] or designated part of the State, [6:27] the people whereof shall be in rebellion [6:29] against the United States, [6:30] shall be then fenced forward and forever free. [6:33] And whereas President Lincoln correctly believes slavery [6:36] to be in violation of the principles [6:37] of the Declaration of Independence, and that its abolishment [6:40] represented a new birth of freedom for the United States, [6:43] and whereas more than two years would pass [6:45] before the news reached African Americans living in Texas, [6:48] when on June 19th, 1865, Union Major General Gordon Granger [6:52] and his regiment arrived in Galveston [6:54] and spread the word that slavery had been abolished. [6:57] And whereas the following year, [6:58] the first official Juneteenth celebrations took place [7:00] in Texas and have continued [7:02] across the United States throughout the years. [7:05] And whereas emancipation in Florida was proclaimed [7:07] in Tallahassee on May 20th, 1865, [7:10] and for this reason, Floridians traditionally celebrate [7:13] Emancipation Day on May 20. [7:15] Now, therefore, Juneteenth [7:17] is the oldest national celebrated commemoration [7:21] of ending of slavery and is important opportunity to honor [7:24] the principles, declaration of the independence [7:27] and celebration of the achievements [7:29] and contributions Africans Americans have made [7:31] and continue to make in Florida across our nation. [7:34] Hereby declared by the City Commission on this day, [7:37] the 17th day of June, 2025. [7:41] (participants clap) [7:55] - Okay, on behalf of the NAACP of Osceola County, [7:59] we wanna thank you [8:00] or being here to witness this with us today. [8:03] It is a special time for us. [8:05] It is about community and us growing together [8:07] and staying positive and being united as one. [8:11] And so we wanna thank everyone here, our officials, [8:16] the city for always being there for us. [8:19] On behalf of the NAACP of Osceola, we thank you. [8:23] (participants clap) [9:08] - Thank you, commissioners. [9:15] We now move on to swearing in ceremony [9:16] for Assistant Chief of Police and four new police officers. [9:21] Chief Broadway. [9:24] - Well, good evening, Madam Mayor, Commissioners. [9:26] It is my honor to swear in [9:28] our newest Assistant Chief of Police, Kevin McGinley, [9:31] if you can come forward with your family. [9:34] (participants clap) [9:44] Our new assistant chief brings extensive amount [9:47] of law enforcement experience, leadership experience, worked [9:50] for several years at Osceola County Sheriff's Office [9:53] for Sheriff Hansel, as well as former Sheriff Gibson, [9:56] and also spent several years [9:59] at the Florida Department of Law Enforcement [10:01] within the Public Integrity Unit. [10:02] It is my honor to swear him. [10:04] He's going to be a great addition to this leadership team, [10:07] to this agency, and to this community. [10:09] And he is the consummate professional. [10:12] Again, it is my honor to swear I'm in today. [10:16] (participants clap) [10:22] Repeat after me. [10:24] I, state your name. [10:25] - I Kevin McGinley. [10:25] - Do solemnly swear or affirm. [10:27] - Do solemnly swear affirm. [10:28] - I will support, protect, and defend. [10:30] - I will support, protect and defend. [10:32] - The constitution and government. [10:34] - The constitution and government. [10:35] - Of the United States. [10:36] - Of the United States. [10:37] - And the State of Florida. [10:38] - And the State of Florida. [10:39] - I'm duly qualified. [10:40] - I'm duly qualified. [10:41] - To hold office. [10:42] - To hold office. [10:43] - Under the Constitution. [10:44] - Under the Constitution. [10:45] - And I will well. [10:46] - And I will well. [10:47] - And faithfully perform. [10:48] - And faithfully perform. [10:48] - My duties. [10:49] - My duties. [10:50] - Of Assistant chief of Police. [10:51] - Of Assistant Chief of Police. [10:53] - For the Kissimmee Police Department. [10:54] - For the Kissimmee Police Department. [10:55] - So help me God. [10:56] - So help me God. [10:57] - Congratulations. [10:58] (participants clap) [11:48] - Three, two. [12:01] (participants clap) [12:09] - It is now my honor and privilege [12:10] to swear in our new police officers who are ready to go [12:15] through their training and work in our community to serve [12:19] and protect our residents. [12:20] If you all can come forward with your families. [12:29] I also want to recognize our recruiting division. [12:32] They proactively do a really good job in recruiting [12:36] the top candidates and the best of the best [12:38] to represent this city and this community. [12:40] So a special thanks to our recruiting division. [12:42] Thank you guys. [12:43] (participants clap) [12:55] Raise your right hand and repeat after me. [12:57] Hand on the Bible. [12:58] I, state your name. [12:59] - I (indistinct) Perez. [13:00] - I, Luis Las Lugo. [13:02] - Justin (indistinct) [13:04] - Do solemnly swear or affirm. [13:06] - Do solemnly swear or affirm. [13:07] - I will support, protect and defend. [13:09] - I'll support, protect and defend. [13:11] - The constitution and government. [13:12] - The constitution and government. [13:14] - Of the United States. [13:15] Of the United States. [13:16] - And the State of Florida. [13:17] - And the State of Florida. [13:18] - I'm duly qualified. [13:19] - I'm duly qualified. [13:20] - To hold office. [13:21] - To hold office. [13:21] - Under the Constitution. [13:22] - Under the constitution. [13:23] - And I will well. [13:25] - And I will well. [13:25] - And faithfully perform. [13:26] - And faithfully perform. [13:27] - My duties. [13:28] - My duties. [13:29] - Of police officer. [13:30] - Of police officer. [13:31] - For the Kissimmee Police Department. [13:32] - For the Kissimmee Police Department. [13:33] - So help me God. [13:34] - So help me God. [13:35] - Congratulations. [13:36] (participants clap) [14:11] Awesome. [14:12] Three, two. [14:16] One more. [14:19] We go three, two. [14:22] Thank you. [14:23] Thank you so much. [14:37] (participants clap) [14:52] - We now move on to item 3C, [14:54] promotion ceremony of police sergeants. [14:57] Chief Broadway. [14:58] - Thank you, Madam Mayor. [15:00] At this time, we can call up Sergeant Brandon (indistinct) [15:03] and Jerry Garrett as they're being promoted [15:05] to sergeant this evening. [15:08] As you know, our sergeants, [15:09] (participants clap) [15:18] are the first line supervisors [15:19] and play a critical role in shaping [15:21] the day-to-day operations and the functioning [15:23] of the department. [15:24] And it's my honor to swear in, to promote both of you. [15:32] Raise your right hand and repeat after me. [15:33] I, state your name. [15:35] - I, Jerry Garrett. [15:36] - I, Brandon (indistinct) [15:36] - Do solemnly swear or affirm. [15:38] - Do solemnly swear or affirm. [15:39] - I'll support, protect and defend. [15:41] I'll support, protect and defend. [15:43] - Constitution and government. [15:44] - Constitution and government. [15:46] - Of the United States. [15:47] - Of the United States. [15:48] - And the State of Florida. [15:49] - And the State of Florida. [15:50] - I'm duly qualified. [15:51] - I'm duly qualified. [15:52] - To hold office. [15:52] - To hold office. [15:53] - Under the constitution. [15:54] - Under the constitution. [15:55] - And I will well. [15:56] - And I will well. [15:57] - And faithfully perform. [15:58] - And faithfully perform. [15:59] - My duties. [16:00] - My duties. [16:01] - Of police sergeant. [16:01] - Of police sergeant. [16:02] - For which I'm about to enter. [16:03] - For which I'm about to enter. [16:04] - So help me God. [16:05] - So help me God. [16:06] - Congratulations. [16:07] (participants clap) [17:03] - Congratulations. [17:05] - Congratulations. [17:06] - Congratulations. [17:09] - Congratulations. [17:10] - Congratulations. [17:15] - What a great day for our city? [17:18] This fills my heart. [17:19] Thank you all for all you do at our KPD Department. [17:22] We are very proud of all of you. [17:25] Now we move on to employee of the month for June. [17:27] City Manager. [17:30] - Thank you, Madam Mayor. [17:31] Commissioners, ladies and gentlemen, [17:32] keeping with today's theme of the police department, [17:35] I'd like to introduce to you today our employee the month [17:38] for June from the police department, Cameron Turner. [17:42] Cameron. [17:42] (participants clap) [18:00] - Just kidding. [18:01] (participants laugh) [18:04] - So Cameron has been with us, three years? [18:06] - Just about, yeah. [18:07] - Just about three years. [18:09] She is a tele-communicator with the police department, [18:12] and often, you know, during emergencies, our men [18:15] and women in blue are the ones that we think of. [18:18] But it's the tele-communicators [18:20] and our operators at the communication center [18:23] that are often the first line of communication [18:27] with anybody in an emergency situation. [18:29] And Cameron has a reputation of being polite, courteous, [18:33] efficient, she's well respected by her coworkers. [18:37] She has a positive attitude [18:39] that's infectious within the division [18:41] and you know, really exemplifies the type of individual [18:46] that represents the term employee the month Very, very well. [18:49] So on behalf of the employees of the City of Kissimmee, [18:53] I'd like to thank you and congratulate you [18:55] for everything that you do. [18:56] Congratulate you for winning [18:58] our Employee of the Month for June. [19:00] And I wanna remind our audience here [19:04] that the employee of the month is not chosen by me [19:07] or the leadership of the department or the commissioners, [19:09] but our employee of the month are, they're nominated [19:11] by fellow coworkers [19:14] and then those coworkers' applications [19:16] for the with the nominations are reviewed [19:18] by committee representing the 12 different departments [19:21] of the city and over almost 900 employees. [19:23] So again, there's no better honor [19:26] than to be recognized by your peers. [19:27] So thank you so much for everything that you do, Cameron, [19:30] and we're gonna. [19:32] - Yeah. [19:34] Oh, okay, yeah, perfect. [19:36] (participants clap) [19:43] - A backpack. [19:49] - Thank you for service. [19:50] - Thank you. [19:51] Thank you. [19:58] - You'd like to say a few words? [20:00] - Yeah. [20:02] Just wanna say thank you guys for the recognition. [20:04] I appreciate it. [20:06] Also give a shout out to the Communications Center. [20:08] Definitely not a solo job by any means. [20:10] A whole team working together. [20:11] And then shout out to the officers. [20:14] You guys make our job easier as well. [20:16] So thank you. [20:17] (participants clap) [20:30] - We now move on to item 3E, [20:32] presentation of Retrolight System solution [20:34] for high priority pedestrian zones. [20:37] City manager. [20:39] - Thank you, Madam Mayor. [20:40] Mr. Jorge Figueroa, the CEO of Sky Novva Solutions [20:43] has requested to make presentation to the commission [20:45] regarding a product [20:47] that they would like to showcase to the commission [20:49] regarding pedestrian safety. [20:51] So with that, I'll turn it over to Mr. Figueroa. [20:55] - Your name and address for the record. [20:56] And please just note you have five minutes. [20:59] - Yes, Jorge Figueroa, [21:01] 2918 Sera Bella Way, Kissimmee, 34744. [21:07] Excellent. [21:08] Good afternoon, commissioners and city staff. [21:11] Thank you for the opportunity to speak with you today. [21:14] As we continue building a more connected, [21:16] safe and forward-thinking Kissimmee, [21:19] I'd like to introduce a solution [21:21] that directly supports your vision, the Retrolight system, [21:24] a smart award-winning pedestrian safety platform designed [21:28] to reduce accidents and modernize intersections. [21:32] Let's begin with the reality. [21:34] Central Florida remains one [21:35] of the most dangerous regions [21:37] in the country for pedestrians. [21:39] According to Smart Growth America's Dangerous [21:41] by Design Report, the Orlando Kissimmee Sanford metro area [21:45] consistently ranks amongst the top five most deadly areas [21:48] for pedestrians in the United States. [21:51] In recent years, we've seen rising fatalities, [21:54] many involved in vulnerable populations, [21:56] near high speed corridors or poorly marked crosses. [22:00] This is a pressing public safety issue tied [22:03] to the fast growing urban areas and legacy road designs. [22:07] The Retrolight system isn't just a concept, [22:10] it is internationally recognized being implemented [22:13] in six countries and over 70 intersections. [22:16] Retrolight is an award-winning smart crosswalk [22:20] and signaling platform that received the third price [22:23] for best innovation in road safety [22:25] at the Global Ministerial Conference. [22:27] The Retrolight System is a proven innovative solution [22:31] designed to modernize intersections [22:33] and dramatically reduce pedestrians injuries and fatalities. [22:37] So what is the Retrolight system? [22:39] Retrolight is a modular, smart crosswalk system [22:42] that illuminates crosswalks and signage within ground [22:46] within ground LED panels, activates only when a pedestrian [22:50] is present, reducing unnecessary energy usage, [22:55] uses intelligence sensors to provide real time alerts [22:58] to approaching vehicles [22:59] and collects traffic and safety data. [23:02] Moreover, its integration with solar panels [23:05] and IoT platforms supports both our resilience [23:09] and sustainability goals, [23:11] key pillars of our comprehensive plan. [23:14] It adapts to environmental conditions like rain, [23:17] low visibility, snow, [23:19] supports data-driven planning for future infrastructure [23:22] and mobility decisions [23:23] and can be integrated with city management platforms [23:27] and security cameras. [23:29] It is powered by solar energy [23:32] and uses low consumption LEDs. [23:35] It is manufactured [23:36] with recyclable materials [23:38] including repurposed wind turbine blades, [23:41] a practical fit in Kissimmee's sustainability [23:45] and resilience objectives. [23:47] In studies by the University of Rome [23:49] and the European Union's EIT Urban Mobility Program, [23:53] the system reduced pedestrians accidents by up to 69% [23:58] and vehicle speeds by nearly 20% [24:01] while increasing pedestrian use by over 190%. [24:06] With the Connect Kissimmee Road Project aiming [24:09] to improve multimodal access [24:11] and pedestrian infrastructure, [24:12] Retrolight complements this vision by enhancing visibility [24:17] and workability without compromising the design's integrity, [24:21] providing a scalable solution [24:23] that can be implemented incrementally. [24:26] Integrate... [24:28] I'm sorry, recent changes [24:29] on the Broadway Street design created right conditions [24:33] to integrate retro lighting [24:35] into newly transformed pedestrian corridors, [24:37] helping to future proof the area. [24:41] It can be installed crosswalks, bike lanes, school zones, [24:45] shared use paths, tunnels and train hubs. [24:50] Ideal for high speed intersections, areas [24:52] with vulnerable users [24:54] and tourists-heavy locations like Downtown Kissimmee. [24:58] The Retrolight system helps Kissimmee take a bold step [25:01] towards becoming a forward-thinking leader in urban safety [25:05] and smart infrastructure in central Florida. [25:09] This aligns with the commission's ongoing efforts [25:12] to position Kissimmee as a model city for innovation, [25:15] mobility and resilience. [25:17] The Retrolight System has a track record of results, [25:21] recognition and real world performance. [25:24] Retrolight system is backed [25:25] by the highest industry certifications [25:27] and comply with the most demanding technical requirements. [25:31] We guarantee long-term performance [25:33] even under the most extremes temperature conditions. [25:37] It's been tested 55 degrees below zero [25:41] up to 212 degrees Fahrenheit [25:44] and heavy vehicle traffic over 132,000 pounds. [25:48] The Retrolight Systems modular installation, low maintenance [25:52] and measurable safety outcomes make it an effective [25:55] and potential cost-neutral addition, [25:57] especially when factored into current [26:00] and future roadway redesigns and grant opportunities. [26:11] We would like to set up a demonstration [26:14] with the developers for this system if given the chance. [26:19] - Thank you. [26:20] - Thank you very much. - Thank you for your time [26:21] and for the presentation [26:22] and if we have any further comments, we'll contact you. [26:26] Thank you, Mr. Figueroa. [26:27] Appreciate it. [26:31] We move on to public hearings. [26:33] 4A, first reading, proposed ordinance number 25-06, [26:38] establishment of Civilian Police Oversight Board. [26:42] - In ordinance amending the code of ordinances [26:44] of the City of Kissimmee, Florida, [26:46] Chapter two, administration, article three [26:47] boards and commissions establishing [26:50] a civilian police oversight board [26:52] amending section 2-3-3, city attorney as legal counsel, [26:55] repealing all ordinances and conflict here [26:57] with and providing an effective date. [26:59] - And commissioners, this is a first reading of an ordinance [27:01] that would establish a civilian police oversight board [27:03] in accordance with chapter 166.0486 of the Florida Statutes. [27:08] This ordinance sets up the size of the board, [27:12] which will be between five and seven members. [27:15] In accordance with the statutes, [27:17] those members will be appointed by the chief of police. [27:20] They would be set up for two-year terms with a maximum [27:23] of three two-year terms that could be served [27:25] by any board member. [27:28] Each board member can either live, work [27:31] or own property within the city limits. [27:32] So it's not limited to just city residents. [27:35] And then one [27:36] of the members per the statutes [27:38] must be retired law enforcement officers. [27:40] And there's also prohibitions for members [27:43] either to be in elected office [27:45] or to be a qualified candidate for elected office. [27:48] So after holding the public hearing, [27:50] staff recommends approval of this first reading. [27:53] - Thank you, City Manager. [27:54] This is a public hearing. [27:55] Do any of the members of the public wish [27:58] to speak on this specific item? [28:02] Ma'am, are you asking to speak on this specific item? [28:06] - Yes. [28:07] (inaudible) [28:10] - Thank you then. [28:12] Absolutely. [28:13] Please walk up to the microphone, and your name [28:15] and address for the record, please. [28:20] - Okay then, no problem. [28:23] Give me a minute. [28:24] (Claudia laughs) [28:26] Whoo! [28:27] 10D Andres, I'm sorry. [28:29] (Claudia laughs) [28:30] - Name and address, please. - My name is Claudia Zuko. [28:31] I live at 1342 Stallone Court. [28:33] And for those who are doing the closed captioning, it's Z. [28:38] Z-O. [28:39] Thank you. [28:41] Stallone Court, Kissimmee, Florida 34744. [28:45] For those of you who don't know me, I really, [28:48] really strongly encourage this board [28:50] to be created in the first place by, you know, [28:52] hounding the crap. [28:55] None are those people right back there. [28:56] - [Mayor] Ma'am, can you direct yourself [28:58] to the commission, please? - Oh, my apologies. [29:00] - Thank you. [29:02] - And it galls me [29:04] that we're engaging in this farce, this pretense, [29:08] that this board is going to have any power. [29:10] If you really want police oversight, it's you [29:15] who are tasked with that, not us. [29:17] It is your responsibility to govern him [29:22] so that he can govern them. [29:24] Isn't that the way this of-- - I'm gonna ask you... [29:26] Ma'am, I'm gonna ask you not to direct yourself [29:29] to anyone in specific. [29:30] You speak to us as a body [29:32] and we are more than happy to listen to you. [29:34] Thank you. [29:35] - Hmm. [29:36] So you want transparency. [29:42] What does that really mean? [29:45] It means something that can let the light shine through, [29:48] but you're not being transparent in any way, shape, [29:51] or form, that I'm referring to the commission as a whole, [29:54] not an individual. [29:56] - [Mayor] Thank you. [29:57] - Because we all know [29:58] that you have over 6,000 pieces of damaged evidence. [30:01] We all know, well, I know, [30:04] that you have over 1,000 pieces of evidence missing. [30:07] We now know collectively as a community [30:09] that you did not report 26 officers as required by law. [30:15] How will this board accomplish anything in regards [30:20] to any of those items? [30:22] I see nothing that will change. [30:25] We had a previous board who could have affected change [30:29] and instead they remained stagnant and silent. [30:34] I don't see a way forward by taking several steps backwards. [30:40] And what you're asking people to believe [30:42] is that you're going to change anything when it comes [30:46] to that environment, and it would seem that your actions [30:50] speak louder than your words. [30:52] So I would recommend the commission [30:55] and that the community demand [30:57] of the commission real transparency. [31:00] Let's talk about the evidence vault floods (chuckles) [31:03] now that we know you literally had to go back in [31:07] and knock holes in exterior walls when we spent $70,000 [31:11] trying to repair the issue. [31:15] So thank you for your time. [31:19] I'll adjourn and come back for a later commentary. [31:21] Thank you. - Thank you. [31:24] Any other person wants to speak on this specific item? [31:29] Mr. Fetzer? [31:30] - Jeremy Fetzer, 3532 Bay Court, St. Cloud, [31:33] but I own a business in downtown Kissimmee. [31:36] First off, I applaud this board for taking this action, [31:40] and based upon what the last speaker said, [31:43] your hands are tied because of the state, [31:45] not what this local board is doing. [31:48] And I think this is one step forward just to try [31:51] and rebuild that trust. [31:53] And I think hiring the new police chief, I think [31:56] with this new commission, I think the commission [32:00] along with the new police chief and the administration [32:02] are doing a wonderful job. [32:04] I think, again, the state is tying the hands [32:07] of this commission when it comes to transparency [32:10] in that aspect of this board and what they can do. [32:13] So it's really not up to you guys. [32:14] The governor and the legislature created obstacles. [32:19] But based upon what happened with the state attorney [32:22] and the whole investigation, the hiring [32:24] of the new police chief, [32:26] we now just sworn in the new assistant deputy chief [32:29] and the action that the administration [32:32] and this commission has taken. [32:33] I actually applaud you guys. [32:34] And then taking one step further [32:36] with this Citizens Board is just another step forward [32:39] to engage the community, to be a part of the process [32:42] where they're allowed to. [32:43] Again, if you have an issue with this, I would go [32:45] to Tallahassee and lobby your state legislatures, [32:49] both the state senator [32:50] and the state representatives and the governor [32:52] because they're the ones responsible for the issues at hand [32:56] that you see with this board. [32:57] But again, I appreciate everything you guys are doing, [32:59] KPD is doing and city managers doing. [33:01] Thank you. [33:03] - Thank you, Mr. Fetzer. [33:04] Any other comments on this specific item? [33:09] Hearing none, do I have a motion? [33:11] - Motion to approve. [33:12] - Second. [33:13] Motion by Vice Mayor Eady, second by Commissioner Alvarez. [33:18] Any discussion? [33:20] Hearing none, all in favor? [33:22] - Aye. [33:23] - Motion carries. [33:24] Thank you. [33:26] (Mayor clears throat) [33:27] 4B, first reading, proposed ordinance number 25-08. [33:31] Updated building fee ordinance. [33:33] - Madam Mayor, commissioners, at this time, staff [33:36] would request that this item be pulled from tonight's agenda [33:38] and we'll re advertise at a later date. [33:42] - Thank you, City Manager. [33:44] We'll move right along to 5A, public hearing. [33:48] Kissimmee Gateway Airport Commerce Park mixed use [33:52] planned unit development. [33:55] - Good Evening, Commission. [33:56] Douglas Etheridge, Development Services Assistant Director. [33:59] Tonight we have a putt amendment [34:01] before you is the (clears throat) excuse me. [34:04] It's the Airport Gateway, [34:05] Gateway airport Commerce Park Pod. [34:08] It was established back in 2010, [34:12] basically north of MLK [34:15] and the southwest corner of MLK and Thacker. [34:19] It was established multiple office types uses, [34:22] and it was time to update the pod to allow [34:25] for other uses, particularly like a hotel [34:29] that it could be associated with the airport [34:31] or dormitories for the airport services. [34:34] Staff recommends approval of this request is find [34:37] and compliant and plaintiff Advisory Board also recommends [34:39] approval of this request. [34:43] - Thank you. [34:44] - Thank you. [34:45] - This is a public hearing. [34:46] Do any members of the public wish [34:47] to speak on this specific item? [34:51] Hearing none, do I have a motion? [34:53] - Motion to approve. [34:55] - Second. [34:56] - Motion by Vice Mayor Eady. [34:57] Second by Commissioner Martinez. [35:00] Any discussion? [35:03] All in favor? [35:04] - Aye. [35:05] - Motion carries. [35:06] We're gonna now move on to hear the audience. [35:08] Do any the members wish to speak? [35:11] Please be sure to sign in with our clerk. [35:15] We are going to start now [35:17] with Ray Parsons. [35:21] Mr. Parsons. [35:26] - Thank you. [35:27] Ray Parsons, 117B Broadway. [35:30] Just came tonight just to tell y'all [35:32] that I've met, recently had the opportunity to meet [35:35] with several your department heads [35:39] and met with the new police chief [35:42] and he was very welcoming. [35:44] I think he made a great hire with him. [35:48] Had the opportunity [35:49] to meet with your new public Works direct. [35:51] I guess he's not new, he is been here a while, [35:52] but he is kind of new to me. [35:54] Ashley with Public Works. [35:56] He was extremely helpful. [35:57] Police chief, I met with him a couple times. [36:01] Really nice guy. [36:02] Extremely helpful. [36:03] And I think y'all have made some really fantastic hires. [36:07] And just from a citizen's point of view [36:10] and somebody that works with the staff a lot, [36:12] it's refreshing to see (clears throat) that kind [36:16] of approach and attitude from the staff. [36:22] I'm just so excited about our opportunities for downtown. [36:26] Y'all are doing a great job getting downtown under control. [36:31] The sound ordinance. [36:33] Some of the things are a little out of control. [36:36] There's a lot of businesses downtown that want [36:39] to get involved and want to do the right thing. [36:43] And just appreciate [36:47] your efforts and look forward to opportunities [36:50] for downtown working with your staff. [36:53] Thank you. [36:54] - Thank you, Mr. Parsons. [36:56] I also have Diana Marrero Pinto. [37:01] - Thank you. [37:08] - Madam Mayor, my comments are in reference to item eight. [37:11] Would you like me to hold off [37:12] till they do their presentation? [37:14] - [Mayor] Pardon me, I can't-- [37:15] - The city's incentives. [37:16] - [Mayor] Okay. [37:17] - Would you like me to hold off? [37:18] - So yeah, [37:19] we'll hold off on that. - Okay. [37:20] - Thank you, I'm sorry. [37:23] All right. [37:24] Any other person wants to speak at this moment? [37:28] Ms. Zuko, please. [37:43] - Thank you. [37:46] Today I'm gonna talk about-- I'm sorry. [37:47] I need your name and address again [37:48] for the record. - Oh, again, my apologies. [37:51] Claudia Zuko. [37:52] Thank you again for getting that right, [37:55] at 1342 for now, still on Court Kissimmee 434744. [38:01] My topic is transparency, [38:05] and it begins with telling you what happened on the date [38:07] of August 22nd, 2014 [38:11] when police ignored a protective order [38:15] that had been legally issued [38:17] to me by the Ninth Judicial Circuit to prevent harm. [38:27] Instead, [38:33] my stalker [38:37] and the little angry mob that she had formed [38:42] called police who arrived, ignored that order, [38:50] ignored the cameras, the microphones [38:55] with which they were well aware and familiar with. [39:00] Drug me from my home [39:03] after breaking my door, [39:06] placed me in a squad car, and based on her testimony, [39:12] they corrected me. [39:22] For a decade, I have been abused, [39:28] scoffed, harangued [39:30] and harassed with verbiage so appalling. [39:37] It has to stop. [39:43] So we need to be transparent, don't we? [39:48] And it starts by saying, [39:50] where's the talk about aliens? [39:52] Where's the death threat? [39:54] Where's the human barricade? [39:56] They're nowhere to be found. [40:00] We know that you withheld evidence on both sides, [40:05] police and prosecutors, [40:10] to protect a lie. [40:14] And we know it's a lie because it got yanked off of WFTV [40:17] and off of the website for Kat and Phillips, [40:21] and got booted out of court. [40:24] Over and over [40:25] they were declared unreliable and untruthful. [40:33] And the evidence was withheld [40:36] because the culture of coverup, ladies [40:40] and gentlemen, of the commission and audience, [40:44] and it sickens me. [40:47] That's me being transparent. [40:51] Good enough. [40:52] - Thank you, Ms. Zuko. [40:56] Consent agenda, item number seven, to I have a motion [40:59] to approve the consent agenda with the exception of 7Q. [41:03] - Motion to approve. [41:04] - Second. [41:06] - All in favor? [41:07] - Aye. [41:10] - Motion carries. [41:12] Discussion items. [41:13] We'll move right on. [41:14] I'm sorry. [41:14] - Madam Mayor, can we hear 7Q now? [41:17] - I'm sorry, did I? [41:19] Oh (clears throat) 7Q I'm sorry. [41:21] We're gonna pull 7Q so we talk about that-- [41:22] - Thank you, yes, yes. [41:24] So, Madam Mayor, commissioners, 7Q is a resolution [41:27] authorizing the city manager to execute documents related [41:30] to applications for hazard mitigation grant programs. [41:35] And the intent behind this resolution was to allow us [41:38] to submit these applications in time [41:40] for what sometimes are very tight timelines [41:43] that we don't have time to go [41:45] to commission to get approval for [41:46] in advance of submitting the grant. [41:48] We are in the process [41:50] of applying for a COPS grant to help pay [41:53] for new police officers with the upcoming budget as well [41:56] as a safer grant for new firefighters in the upcoming [41:59] or in a future budget. [42:00] And so what we'd like to do [42:03] and before you think each of you have a copy [42:06] of a revised resolution [42:07] that would add those two grant programs to this resolution. [42:11] So staff is requesting approval for, to add this [42:14] or to approve this new resolution. [42:16] - Perfect. [42:17] So. [42:19] - Make a motion to approve [42:21] the adamant to resolution to 7Q. [42:26] - I second it. [42:29] All righty, motion by Commissioner Alvarez, [42:31] second by Commissioner Martinez. [42:32] All in favor? [42:34] - Aye. [42:34] - Motion carries. [42:36] All right. [42:40] Now we'll move on to discussion items. [42:44] City Commission will recess [42:46] and convenes as the Community Redevelopment Agency Board? [42:51] - David, do we need to do that for 8A? [42:55] Not for 8A but for 8B. [42:57] - 8B, okay. - Yes, my apologies. [42:59] So we just proceed with 8A. [43:00] - So we can remain [43:01] as the City Commission for 8A. - So we reconvene [43:03] at this point and we'll recess at the next one. [43:07] So we'll go into 8A, [43:09] Downtown Kissimmee Activation Incentive. [43:13] Mr. Rodriguez. [43:14] - Good evening. [43:15] David Rodriguez, Economic Development Director. [43:18] The item before you for consideration [43:20] is the Downtown Business Activation Initiative. [43:23] The objective of this initiative is attracting [43:26] new quality tenants to vacant [43:28] or underutilized storefronts in the downtown core, [43:31] focusing on types [43:33] of businesses not currently present in downtown, [43:35] or that residents [43:36] and visitors want to see more of, [43:39] like experiential businesses, [43:41] entertainment innovative astronomy, et cetera. [43:44] The goal is activating downtown to add vibrancy [43:48] and increase food traffic. [43:50] Just like our tool bag [43:52] of incentives to attract target industries [43:54] to the city at large, this is a tool in our tool bag [43:58] to recruit businesses specifically to downtown. [44:01] Now, under this initiative, [44:03] the city would offer reimburse 25% [44:06] of the cost incurred in interior tenant improvements, [44:09] build out or renovations up to 50,000, [44:13] waive development fees up to 5,000, reimburse the cost [44:18] of the BTR and reimburse 50% of rent costs [44:22] for the first six months up to 10,000. [44:25] Again, this incentive is part of a recruitment initiative [44:29] aimed to make downtown a more competitive retail destination [44:34] and have a more robust downtown to residents [44:37] and visitors to enjoy. [44:39] Now, happy to answer any questions you may have. [44:44] - Thank you. [44:48] Commissioners, are you okay with this? [44:51] Any questions? [44:52] Are you okay? [44:53] Yeah. [44:54] Good. [44:55] All right. [44:56] So do I have a motion? [44:57] - Motion to approve. [44:58] - Second. [44:59] - Motion by Commissioner Martinez, [45:01] second by Vice Mayor Eady. [45:03] All in favor? [45:04] - Aye. [45:05] - Motion carries. [45:06] Thank you. [45:07] Thank you, Mr. Rodriguez, for that. [45:08] Now we will recess and convene [45:12] as a Community Redevelopment Agency Board [45:15] for item 8B, amendments [45:19] to Community Redevelopment Agency Incentives Policy. [45:23] Mr. Rodriguez. [45:25] - The item before you are changes [45:26] to the CRA Incentive Programs. [45:29] These programs, as you know, [45:31] are directed towards developing new projects, [45:33] redeveloping blighted properties [45:35] and repurposing vacant structures within the CRA. [45:39] In addition to incorporating some definitions [45:41] to add clarity, the changes in front [45:44] of you include the following, [45:46] adjusting the Pioneer grant amount to 10% [45:50] of the tangible project costs, [45:52] costs that add value to the property, [45:55] up to 1.5 million program maximum, whichever is lower. [46:00] By doing this, [46:01] this ensures a 10 to one ratio on all projects. [46:05] That means $10 of private capital for each dollar [46:09] of CRA funds. [46:11] Also, in order to be fiscally prudent in dispersing, [46:14] the funds staff recommends to adjust the payout schedule [46:19] up to five years, depending on the amount of the grant. [46:22] The larger the grant, the longer the payout. [46:25] So funds are dispersed slowly. [46:28] These are really adjustments to the mechanics, [46:30] internal mechanics within the program, [46:32] but the goals and the grant maximums are the same as today. [46:36] Happy to answer any questions you may have. [46:40] - Thank you. [46:43] This just applies to the Pioneer Project. [46:45] Am I correct, Grant? [46:46] Just that one? [46:47] - Yes. [46:48] - No, just Pioneer or is it also-- [46:50] - Yes, just Pioneer. [46:51] - Okay. [46:52] - Okay. [46:53] Just to be clear on that. [46:55] Okay. [46:56] So any questions, Commission? [47:00] If not, do I have a motion? [47:02] - Motion to approve. [47:04] - Second. [47:07] - Motion by Vice Mayor Eady. [47:09] Second by Commissioner Martinez. [47:11] All in favor? [47:12] - Aye. [47:13] - Motion carries. [47:15] - Thank you. [47:15] - The Community Redevelopment Agency Board now adjourns [47:18] and Reconvenes as the City Commission. [47:21] Move right on. [47:25] All right. [47:26] 8C, 2025 Policy Agenda Review, [47:28] Building and Fire Prevention Division Operations. [47:37] Mr. Holland to present. [47:39] Thank you. [47:40] - Sorry. [47:41] - No, it's okay. [47:42] (commissioners laugh) [47:44] It's all good. [47:45] - Being a cookie monster. [47:48] Proof of technology. [48:07] Good evening, commissioners. [48:08] Craig Holland, Development Services Director. [48:11] So a few weeks ago we did the same exact type [48:13] presentation for code enforcement. [48:15] Tonight it's gonna be about the building division [48:18] and then in probably in a few weeks [48:21] or a month, we'll be doing the planning division. [48:23] So you'll hit all three. [48:25] So the City Commission, can I get the first slide? [48:30] Oh, I'm sorry. [48:32] - You're good. [48:32] - So the City Commission and their policy agenda [48:34] for 2025 made a high priority of permitting [48:38] and licensing process, streamlining with goals, objectives, [48:41] performance audits, reports with findings [48:44] and recommendations, directions and implementation. [48:46] So this discussion, [48:48] again is divided up into two parts, development review, [48:52] which will be in about a month, and building review tonight. [48:55] So what we're gonna do is Samantha Bridle, [48:57] our Building Manager, is gonna get up [48:59] and go over details about the building division, a lot [49:03] of things about the process, things [49:05] that we've done since you heard from us about two years ago [49:09] when we gave the same presentation [49:11] to the previous commission. [49:12] We have two new commissioners on board [49:13] that weren't here before. [49:15] And then I'll come back at the end [49:17] and we can have a discussion on what you all are hearing [49:20] or feel are the issues [49:23] and how you would like to see us address these issues [49:29] much like we did with Code Enforcement. [49:31] So I'm gonna introduce Samantha Bridle, the Building Manager [49:35] for the Building Division. [49:52] - Good evening, Madam Mayor, commissioners, [49:53] City Manager Steigerwald and city staff. [49:56] My name is Samantha Bridle, [49:57] and I serve as the Building Division Manager [49:59] for the City of Kissimmee. [50:00] Today I'll be providing a brief overview [50:02] of the city's permitting and licensing processes. [50:10] Thank you. [50:15] Technical difficulties. [50:17] (Samantha laughs) [50:19] Okay. [50:21] We'll begin with our building division's staffing [50:23] and certifications to highlight the professional expertise [50:26] behind our work. [50:28] We'll give a high level look at our workflow to show [50:31] how applications move through the system. [50:33] We'll review overall permitting and licensing statistics [50:36] and compare both our performance [50:37] and processes with neighboring jurisdictions [50:39] to provide regional context. [50:42] And I'll also outline the steps we're taking [50:44] to streamline operations and boost efficiency [50:47] and highlight recent improvements aimed at delivering [50:49] a clearer, more timely [50:50] and customer friendly experience for our applicants. [50:56] Now I'd like to give you a quick overview [50:58] of what our team does on a day-to-day basis. [51:00] We manage and oversee the entire permitting [51:02] and licensing process from start to finish. [51:05] Throughout the process, we guide applicants step [51:07] by step from the initial submission all the way [51:10] through to final inspection, [51:11] helping them navigate requirements and timelines. [51:14] That includes reviewing and issuing permits [51:16] for construction projects across the city. [51:19] Once permits are issued, we conduct inspections [51:21] to ensure everything complies with building codes, [51:24] fire codes, and general safety standards. [51:27] We also handle contractor registrations [51:29] and business tax receipts, making sure that businesses [51:32] and contractors are properly vetted and licensed. [51:35] However, it's important to note [51:36] that the building division does not handle the enforcement [51:39] of business tax receipts issues. [51:41] The responsibility lies with a different department. [51:45] And when buildings become unsafe [51:46] or hazardous, we process unsafe abatements [51:49] to protect public safety [51:50] and get those properties addressed quickly. [51:53] Our goal is to ensure development in our community is safe [51:55] and efficient while making the permitting [51:57] and licensing process straightforward, timely [52:00] and centered on the needs of all of our applicants. [52:07] In fiscal year 2024, the building division, [52:10] which also includes fire prevention, had 24 personnel. [52:14] For the current fiscal year, [52:15] we have increased to 29 positions [52:17] with 27 currently filled, [52:19] and we do have two vacancies [52:21] we are actively working to fill. [52:24] Importantly, to accommodate our diverse community, [52:26] 13 of these 29 positions, which is nearly 45% [52:29] of our staff, are bilingual with proficiency in Spanish, [52:33] Portuguese, German and French. [52:36] This significantly enhances our ability to provide clear [52:39] and effective communication with our residents, [52:41] business owners and our customers. [52:47] The building division takes great pride in maintaining [52:50] and continually expanding the number of licenses [52:52] and certifications held by our staff. [52:55] Among the 27 employees currently in the building division, [52:58] we collectively hold 116 unique licenses and certifications. [53:03] These credentials come from four key regulatory bodies, [53:06] the Department of Business and Professional Regulation, [53:09] the International Code Council, [53:11] the division of the State Fire Marshal [53:13] within the Florida Department of Financial Services, [53:15] and then also the Florida Association [53:17] of Business Tax Officials. [53:20] A notable achievement within our team [53:22] is that our deputy building official has earned [53:24] the Master code professional certification, [53:26] which is the highest level [53:27] of certification offered by the International Code Council. [53:31] This certification reflects an exceptional level [53:33] of expertise, commitment, and leadership in building safety [53:37] and code compliance. [53:39] Fewer than 1% of code professionals worldwide [53:41] hold this certification [53:43] with just over 1,000 individuals globally. [53:46] Since 2021, only 26 new master code professionals [53:49] have been certified in the State of Florida. [53:52] A highly certified team keeps our staff current with codes, [53:55] safety standards and best practices resulting [53:58] in thorough reviews, [53:59] fewer errors and enhanced public safety. [54:03] The variety of certifications also allow us [54:05] to handle diverse projects efficiently, [54:08] streamlining the permitting process, [54:10] and then delivering better service. [54:12] In the end, it helps us build safer structures [54:15] and stronger trust with our community. [54:20] When we look at the staffing [54:21] and operating costs per 1,000 residents, [54:24] the City of Kissimmee sits right in the mid-range position [54:27] compared to neighboring jurisdictions. [54:29] In fiscal year 2024, [54:31] our building division operated at a cost [54:33] of approximately $4.49 million [54:36] or about $52,700 per 1,000 residents, [54:42] with a staff of 24, which equates [54:44] to about 0.28 employees per 1,000 citizens. [54:49] By comparison, City of St. Cloud had a similar total cost, [54:52] but a higher per capita cost of nearly 67,800 [54:56] with slightly fewer residents and 23 staff, [54:59] and Osceola County operated at a higher total cost [55:02] of $12.7 million, [55:03] but a lower per capita cost of around 42,300 [55:08] and about 55 employees. [55:11] So while we're not the highest [55:14] or lowest in terms of staffing [55:15] or operational costs, [55:17] Kissimmee demonstrates a balanced approach [55:19] to both budget management and resource allocation. [55:22] Our strength lies in managing costs effectively relative [55:26] to our population size, which supports our ability [55:29] to deliver consistent customer-focused service [55:32] to our community. [55:36] So now we're gonna take a quick look [55:37] at some key statistics for the building division. [55:41] In fiscal year 2023, we processed 13,312 applications. [55:46] That number increased slightly [55:48] to 13,489 in fiscal year '24, [55:52] and we project approximately 13,400 [55:55] or so in fiscal year 2025. [55:58] These figures do include permits, contractor registrations [56:01] and business tax receipts, [56:03] and reflect a stable consistent workload over the year. [56:08] When it comes to customer interactions, [56:10] which includes phone calls, emails [56:12] and walk-ins, we do see a steady decline [56:16] from nearly 80,000 contacts in fiscal year 2023 down [56:20] to about 63,000 in 2024, [56:23] and an estimated 57,450 [56:27] and about in fiscal year 2025. [56:30] We believe that this projected reduction [56:33] is primarily due to the continued adoption [56:35] and increased comfort with our self-service portal, [56:38] allowing more users [56:39] to complete their tasks independently online. [56:42] We've also introduced a range of helpful resources, [56:45] which are including video tutorials, lunch [56:47] and learn sessions, [56:49] and downloadable how-to guides, [56:51] all aimed at making the application process [56:53] a bit more user-friendly and accessible for our customers [56:56] at all times. [56:58] This shift not only enhances convenience for our customers, [57:01] but also allows our staff to dedicate more time [57:03] to processing and reviewing applications [57:06] and improving our overall efficiency. [57:12] So to provide clarity on how our permitting system operates, [57:15] I'd like to walk you through the key steps involved [57:17] from application to final approval. [57:20] The permitting process begins when an applicant submits [57:23] a permit application. [57:25] At that point, the application undergoes [57:27] a sufficiency review to ensure all required information [57:30] is included, and any applicable fees must be paid. [57:34] It is important to note [57:35] that the formal permit review process only commences [57:38] after payment has been received. [57:41] Following this, the application enters [57:43] the plan review phase, which involves coordination [57:46] among multiple departments, [57:48] which includes the building division, [57:49] fire Prevention, planning, Engineering Department, [57:52] Sanitation Division, and also Toho Water Authority. [57:57] Should any department disapprove the submitted plans, [58:00] the applicant is required to make the necessary revisions [58:03] and resubmit before moving forward. [58:07] Once the plans received the approval and all the documents [58:09] and fees are waived, are verified, the permit is issued. [58:14] Should the scope of work change at any point [58:16] during that project, the applicant must submit a revision [58:18] for additional review. [58:21] Post-issuance inspections are conducted [58:23] by the relevant departments based on the project scope. [58:27] Any disapproved inspections must be corrected [58:29] and reinspected until all requirements are met. [58:33] Finally, after all the inspections [58:34] are successfully completed [58:36] and departmental clearance obtained, [58:38] the permit is finalized. [58:40] If applicable, a certificate of occupancy [58:42] or certificate of completion is issued [58:45] to confirm the project's compliance with all regulations. [58:48] While this overview covers the standard process, [58:51] more complex projects may require additional steps. [58:58] So I'd like to provide a quick breakdown [59:00] of our building permits and contractor registrations [59:03] for fiscal year 2024. [59:05] We process 6,025 Building permit applications, [59:09] completed 12,812 reviews and issued 5,786 permits. [59:16] Our inspectors conducted a total of 17,974 inspections, [59:21] which led to the issuance of 343 certificates of occupancy. [59:27] In addition, we issued 2,735 contractor registrations. [59:32] It's important to note [59:33] that an active contractor registration is required [59:36] to obtain a permit, ensuring qualified professionals handle [59:40] construction projects in our city. [59:42] Looking ahead based on the current fiscal year data, [59:45] we anticipate maintaining similar activity levels [59:48] with slight decreases in reviews completed [59:50] and inspections conducted primarily due to the growing use [59:54] of private provider services that are permitted [59:56] by state law. [1:00:01] For fiscal year 2024, [1:00:03] when comparing the number of permit applications submitted [1:00:05] and issued per 1,000 citizens, [1:00:08] the City of Kissimmee ranks the lowest [1:00:09] among the three jurisdictions compared. [1:00:12] On average, Kissimmee is showing [1:00:13] a 96.03% issuance percentage when comparing number [1:00:19] of applications submitted to number of permits issued, [1:00:23] while the City of St. Cloud is showing a percentage [1:00:25] of about 87.73% [1:00:28] and Osceola County is showing a percentage of about 85.96%. [1:00:34] While this chart reflects a lower volume [1:00:36] of permit-related activity relative to the population size, [1:00:39] it also highlights a key benefit. [1:00:42] Our staff can provide more focused attention [1:00:44] and responsive service to each applicant. [1:00:47] This ensures that our citizens receive a more efficient [1:00:50] and accessible permitting process, [1:00:52] ultimately enhancing the experience for everyone involved. [1:01:00] Let me now highlight the timeframes [1:01:02] for permit review in the City of Kissimmee [1:01:04] and compare these with neighboring jurisdictions focusing [1:01:07] on our key areas. [1:01:09] For the city of Kissimmee, [1:01:10] the sufficiency review takes about one business day. [1:01:13] After that, residential reviews take between one [1:01:16] to three business days depending on the permit site, [1:01:18] while commercial reviews range anywhere from one [1:01:21] to 10 business days, resulting in a total review time [1:01:25] of anywhere from three to 11 business days. [1:01:28] In the city of St. Cloud, [1:01:29] the sufficiency review takes two business days [1:01:32] with residential reviews taking around 10 business days [1:01:35] and commercial reviews also taking about 10 business days. [1:01:39] This brings their total review time to 12 business days. [1:01:43] For Osceola County, [1:01:44] the sufficiency review also takes one business day. [1:01:48] The residential reviews range anywhere from five [1:01:50] to seven business days, [1:01:52] and commercial reviews can take anywhere from 10 [1:01:54] to 15 business days resulting in a total review time [1:01:58] between six to about 23 days. [1:02:01] It's important to note that all these timeframes [1:02:03] are measured in business days [1:02:05] and the timeframes listed are self-imposed [1:02:07] by each jurisdiction based on their resources [1:02:10] and their processes. [1:02:12] Each timeframe reflects one review cycle per permit. [1:02:17] All review timeframes are within maximum limits set [1:02:20] by the Florida State Statute [1:02:21] and by the Florida Building Code. [1:02:24] A crucial aspect of our review process [1:02:26] is that permit review cannot begin until fees are paid [1:02:29] after the sufficiency review. [1:02:31] This payment delay can sometimes push [1:02:33] the overall review process back by several days, weeks [1:02:36] or even months depending on the applicant's response time. [1:02:41] Additionally, the timeframe for reviews not only apply [1:02:43] to our internal development services staff, [1:02:46] which includes Building, Planning and Fire Prevention, [1:02:50] but also extends to external departments [1:02:52] and agencies like Toho Water Authority, [1:02:54] the Engineering Department, which includes Floodplain Review [1:02:57] and the Sanitation Division. [1:02:59] While we request that all parties adhere [1:03:01] to the established timeframes, it's important to acknowledge [1:03:04] that reviews completed by external departments [1:03:07] are not directly under our enforcement authority. [1:03:10] As facilitators of the overall process, [1:03:14] we depend on their timely responses to keep things on track [1:03:16] and of course meet project deadlines. [1:03:19] We strive to maintain an efficient [1:03:20] and responsive review process, but the speed [1:03:23] and efficiency of these processes also depend [1:03:25] on timely inputs from all involved parties, [1:03:28] both internal and external. [1:03:33] There are several common reasons [1:03:35] that can slow down the building permit process. [1:03:38] One of the primary causes is when work begins [1:03:40] before obtaining the necessary permits. [1:03:43] This can result in stop work orders, additional inspections, [1:03:46] and in some cases, penalties [1:03:48] that can significantly delay a project. [1:03:51] Another frequent issue is when contractors are unfamiliar [1:03:54] with our local codes or our permitting procedures. [1:03:57] This can lead to errors [1:03:58] or missing documentation, requiring revisions, [1:04:00] and also slowing down the process. [1:04:04] We strongly encourage the use [1:04:05] of our self-service portal. [1:04:06] When these tools are not used, [1:04:08] applications are often incomplete or missing key information [1:04:11] resulting in delays. [1:04:15] Incomplete or inaccurate applications remain [1:04:17] a leading contributor to slower timelines. [1:04:20] Our staff must pause the review process [1:04:23] to request corrections before moving forward. [1:04:26] It's also important to note that reviews cannot begin [1:04:28] until all applicable fees are paid, [1:04:30] so delays in payment can stall a permit [1:04:32] for extended periods of time. [1:04:35] Plan quality of course matters as well. [1:04:37] If submitted plans are unclear [1:04:38] or lack sufficient detail, they are returned for revisions, [1:04:42] adding time to the overall process. [1:04:45] Attempts to bypass permitting requirements [1:04:47] not only cause delays [1:04:49] but can result in corrective enforcement actions. [1:04:52] Expedited review requests, while well intentioned, [1:04:55] they can slow down other reviews [1:04:57] due to limited staff resources. [1:05:00] Clear and timely communication is critical. [1:05:03] Delays frequently occur when applicants [1:05:05] don't respond promptly to staff inquiries [1:05:07] or requests for additional information. [1:05:10] While our staff strive for accuracy [1:05:12] and efficiency, we do acknowledge [1:05:13] that occasional technical issues [1:05:15] or internal errors can occur. [1:05:18] We are committed to identifying those, resolving those [1:05:20] as quickly as possible [1:05:21] and learning from them to, of course, [1:05:22] strengthen our process. [1:05:25] It's also important to recognize [1:05:26] that some delays originate [1:05:28] from outside agencies involved in the review process [1:05:30] such as Toho Water Authority, [1:05:32] the City of Kissimmee Engineering Department, [1:05:35] Osceola County 911 addressing [1:05:37] and Kissimmee Utility Authority. [1:05:39] We depend on their input [1:05:40] and coordination to move permits forward. [1:05:43] Lastly, failure to schedule [1:05:45] or pass required inspections [1:05:46] can prevent finalizing the permit [1:05:48] and they may also significantly extend project timelines. [1:05:54] So I'd now like to walk you [1:05:56] through the business tax receipt workflow. [1:05:58] The process begins with the submission [1:06:01] of the BTR application, [1:06:02] which first undergoes the sufficiency review [1:06:04] to ensure all required information is provided. [1:06:08] Following this, the applicant must complete payment [1:06:10] of the applicable fees before the BTR review can commence. [1:06:14] It's important to emphasize [1:06:15] that the review process does not start [1:06:17] until all fees are paid [1:06:19] and all required documents are submitted and approved. [1:06:23] The BTR review involves coordination [1:06:24] between the Planning Division [1:06:26] and the Building Division to ensure compliance [1:06:28] with all relevant regulations. [1:06:30] Inspections also play a critical role in this process [1:06:33] and are conducted by our fire prevention inspectors [1:06:35] within the Building Division. [1:06:38] For certain business types such as nail salons, [1:06:41] additional inspections including ventilation checks [1:06:43] by a building inspector are required to confirm [1:06:46] that safety standards are met. [1:06:49] Once all inspections are successfully completed [1:06:51] and approved, the business tax receipt is issued authorizing [1:06:54] the business to legally operate within the city. [1:07:00] So I'm gonna provide a quick overview [1:07:02] of the Building Division's business tax receipt activities [1:07:04] for fiscal year 2024. [1:07:06] We process 3049 BTR applications [1:07:10] including both new submissions and renewals. [1:07:13] Of those 1,680 reviews were completed [1:07:17] and we successfully issued 3,970 BTRs that year. [1:07:22] It's important to highlight [1:07:23] that unlike many other jurisdictions where BTRs are managed [1:07:26] by separate departments such as the Zoning Department [1:07:29] in St. Cloud or the Tax Collector's Office [1:07:32] in Osceola County, the City of Kissimmee Building Division [1:07:35] handles both new and renewed BTRs. [1:07:38] This expanded responsibility highlights our commitment [1:07:40] to supporting local businesses through streamlined processes [1:07:43] and coordinated services. [1:07:49] I'd like to provide an overview [1:07:50] of the business tax receipt review timeframes [1:07:53] across the City of Kissimmee, [1:07:54] City of St. Cloud and Osceola County. [1:07:57] In Kissimmee, the sufficiency review typically takes one [1:07:59] to two business days, followed by a BTR review [1:08:02] that lasts one to three business days, [1:08:05] which results in a total review time of approximately two [1:08:07] to five business days. [1:08:09] By comparison, St. Cloud sufficiency review ranges from one [1:08:13] to seven business days with a BTR review period [1:08:16] of seven business days totaling anywhere from eight [1:08:18] to 14 business days. [1:08:21] Osceola County sufficiency review takes between one [1:08:23] to three business days while their BTR review can range [1:08:27] from seven to 21 business days if they do have to send it [1:08:29] to their zoning department, which can lead to a total [1:08:32] of eight to 24 business days. [1:08:35] It's important to note that these timeframes [1:08:37] are measured in business days [1:08:38] and are self-imposed by each jurisdiction, [1:08:41] meaning actual times may vary depending [1:08:43] on resources and processes. [1:08:45] Additionally, after sufficiency review, [1:08:47] applicants cannot proceed to full review [1:08:50] until all required documents are submitted [1:08:52] and the applicable fees are paid. [1:08:55] This step can add days, weeks [1:08:56] or even months to the overall process depending [1:08:58] on the applicant's responsiveness. [1:09:01] A key distinction to highlight is that both St. Cloud [1:09:04] and Osceola County require landlord [1:09:06] and property management business tax receipts. [1:09:09] The City of Kissimmee currently does not. [1:09:12] Also, those jurisdictions require [1:09:14] more extensive documentation at the time of submittal. [1:09:17] In contrast, Kissimmee has streamlined the process [1:09:20] by reducing minimum documentation requirements [1:09:22] to only what is necessary to comply with state statutes [1:09:25] and land development code regulations. [1:09:29] Please keep in mind that the stated timeframes [1:09:31] do not include scheduling and completing inspections, [1:09:33] which are coordinated separately between fire prevention [1:09:36] and the business owner. [1:09:38] After planning and building reviews are approved, [1:09:42] and automated email prompts the business owner [1:09:44] to contact fire prevention [1:09:45] to schedule those necessary inspections. [1:09:48] Failure to schedule these inspections in a timely manner [1:09:51] can cause significant delays, [1:09:52] potentially extending the process [1:09:55] by days, weeks, or months, [1:09:56] and may ultimately prevent the issuance of their BTR. [1:10:00] These differences in timelines [1:10:02] and procedural requirements reflect the unique ways [1:10:04] of each jurisdiction and how they manage their BTR process. [1:10:11] Just like permits, there's several different reasons [1:10:14] that can slow down a BTR process. [1:10:16] One of the primary causes is incomplete [1:10:18] or inaccurate applications. [1:10:20] So when key information is missing [1:10:21] or incorrect, staff must pause the review [1:10:24] to request clarification, which would extend [1:10:26] that processing time. [1:10:28] It's also important to note [1:10:30] that the review process cannot begin [1:10:32] until all required fees are paid in full. [1:10:35] Another frequent issue is missing or invalid documentation. [1:10:39] Without proper supporting materials, [1:10:40] the application cannot advance to that next stage. [1:10:44] We also see delays when applicants do not communicate [1:10:47] or fail to seek assistance early in the process. [1:10:50] A lack of clarity or misunderstanding [1:10:52] could be resolved quickly with a phone call, an email, [1:10:55] or an office visit, [1:10:56] but instead they may result in unnecessary delays. [1:11:00] We strongly encourage the use [1:11:01] of our self-service portal. [1:11:03] When these tools are not used, [1:11:04] applications are often incomplete [1:11:06] or missing key information, [1:11:07] which could also result in possible delays. [1:11:10] Also, delayed responses [1:11:12] and staff requests, clarification documents [1:11:14] or additional information further add time to that process. [1:11:18] In some cases, there are zoning address [1:11:20] or land use issues that must be resolved [1:11:23] before a BTR can be issued. [1:11:25] These typically require a coordination [1:11:27] with other departments or agencies, [1:11:29] and that can lengthen the timeline. [1:11:31] Pending inspections such as those required [1:11:33] by fire prevention or building also impact [1:11:36] the overall processing time. [1:11:38] If inspections are not scheduled [1:11:40] or completed promptly, final approval [1:11:41] is delayed for their issuance. [1:11:44] Occasionally, applicants working with consultants [1:11:47] or representatives who are unfamiliar [1:11:49] with local requirements can lead to missteps [1:11:51] and also added time. [1:11:53] In some instances, [1:11:54] we've also seen attempts to bypass necessary steps, [1:11:56] which unfortunately do cause more delays [1:11:58] and frustrations with the applicants. [1:12:03] And while it is rare, we do acknowledge that technical [1:12:05] or internal errors can occur. [1:12:07] When that happens, we work quickly to try [1:12:09] to resolve those issues [1:12:10] and use it as an opportunity to improve [1:12:12] that process moving forward. [1:12:15] In summary, these are the most common factors [1:12:17] that can impact the timelines of the BTR process. [1:12:21] We continue to encourage all applicants to be proactive, [1:12:23] take full advantage of all the available tools, [1:12:26] and maintain open communication with our team. [1:12:29] These steps help ensure a smooth transition [1:12:31] and efficient review process for everyone involved. [1:12:38] Over the past two years, [1:12:39] we've made significant strides in enhancing [1:12:42] both our permitting and our BTR processes. [1:12:45] These improvements are rooted in our commitment [1:12:47] to providing more efficient, transparent, [1:12:49] and user-friendly services to our residents [1:12:51] and business community. [1:12:53] First, we increased our staffing [1:12:55] to expand our service capacity, which has led [1:12:57] to quicker response times and more streamlined processing. [1:13:01] Recognizing the importance of accessibility, [1:13:03] we launched the Development Services Center [1:13:05] with extended hours beginning at 7:30 a.m. now, [1:13:08] which offer earlier walk-in access [1:13:10] and phone support. [1:13:12] To further assist our community, [1:13:14] we introduced our monthly lunch and learns. [1:13:17] These educational events have been very well received. [1:13:19] Our first session drew nearly 40 attendees, [1:13:22] and our next session is scheduled for next week, [1:13:24] which has currently filled up. [1:13:26] We record and post these sessions on our website [1:13:28] to make sure that there's broad accessibility to everybody. [1:13:32] We've also enhanced the clarity of the business tax receipts [1:13:35] by including maximum occupancy information, [1:13:38] giving business owners a clear understanding [1:13:40] of how to utilize their space safe and legally. [1:13:42] Whenever they print their BTR [1:13:44] from this point forward, they will have [1:13:45] that maximum occupancy written on that BTR for them. [1:13:50] One of our key streamlining efforts involved integrating [1:13:53] the emergency contact form [1:13:54] into both new BTR applications and renewals. [1:13:58] This integration eliminates redundancy [1:14:00] and allows real-time data sharing [1:14:02] with our communication team, [1:14:03] which is crucial in emergency situations. [1:14:07] Our self-service portal has been upgraded significantly. [1:14:10] We offer step-by-step video tutorials, [1:14:13] downloadable PDF guidelines [1:14:16] and have installed two self-service kiosks [1:14:18] in the Development Services Center lobby, [1:14:20] which offer a more independent [1:14:21] and accessible experience when they do come visit. [1:14:24] And finally, we've prioritized quick turnaround permits [1:14:26] for routine projects. [1:14:28] Thanks to the addition [1:14:29] of a dedicated quick turnaround plan reviewer, [1:14:31] most of these permit types such as like for like window [1:14:34] and door replacements, mechanical change outs, [1:14:37] reroofs, water heater installations in addition [1:14:40] to many other ones are completed in less than two days. [1:14:44] These improvements reflect our ongoing efforts [1:14:46] to increase efficiency, enhance customer service, [1:14:50] and streamline the permitting process [1:14:52] for our residents and our businesses. [1:14:56] Looking ahead, we have a strong lineup [1:14:58] of upcoming initiatives designed [1:15:00] to further improve our service delivery, ensure fairness [1:15:04] and strengthen our community safety. [1:15:07] First, we'll be completing a comprehensive fee study. [1:15:10] This will help us ensure our pricing is both fair [1:15:12] and sustainable as the city continues [1:15:15] to grow while supporting long-term service delivery. [1:15:19] We're also focused on improving our ISO rating, [1:15:21] which evaluates our risk management practices, [1:15:24] especially related to fire safety and natural disasters. [1:15:28] For reference, the city currently holds an ISO rating [1:15:30] of three for commercial properties and four for residential, [1:15:34] and improving those ratings can help reduce insurance costs [1:15:37] and promote safer development. [1:15:40] Another long-term goal under consideration [1:15:42] is the IAS accreditation, [1:15:44] which would strengthen our alignment with national standards [1:15:47] and reinforce the integrity of our operations. [1:15:51] To meet the needs of our growing community, [1:15:53] we plan to fill critical staffing positions [1:15:55] and invest in our team to increase capacity [1:15:58] and reduce response times. [1:16:01] On the technology front, [1:16:02] we're implementing something called a Decision Engine, [1:16:04] which is to help streamline workflows across permitting [1:16:07] and business tax receipt processing, [1:16:09] and we hope that improves the speed [1:16:11] and consistency of decision making for our customers. [1:16:15] We'll also launch a new phone queuing system designed [1:16:17] to ensure every customer call is answered [1:16:20] or returned within the same business day. [1:16:22] Features like real-time call routing [1:16:24] and potential callback options will enhance communications [1:16:28] and possibly eliminate voicemail delays. [1:16:32] We're enhancing our electronic plan review system [1:16:34] to a new program that we feel [1:16:35] will make it more user-friendly. [1:16:38] Applicants will be able to more easily view [1:16:40] and respond to comments, improving that overall experience. [1:16:44] We're also expanding automated notifications [1:16:46] to keep our applicants informed [1:16:47] throughout the entire permitting and building process, [1:16:50] which will reduce the need [1:16:51] for follow-up calls and improve our transparency. [1:16:55] To further support customers, we're creating new resources, [1:16:58] including an owner builder brochure, [1:17:00] the Business Startup Guide in collaboration with Planning [1:17:03] and detailed application checklist to reduce errors [1:17:06] and confusion at the time of the applicants' submission. [1:17:10] We'll continue our monthly lunch and learn sessions, [1:17:12] which have been a huge success [1:17:14] with some upcoming topics relating specifically [1:17:16] to learning our permit process, inspections, [1:17:19] BTR process and many more. [1:17:22] Staff training always remains a top priority, [1:17:24] ensuring our team continues to deliver accurate [1:17:27] and high quality service. [1:17:30] We're also strengthening collaboration [1:17:31] with other jurisdictions. [1:17:33] Even though we are separate entities, [1:17:35] we feel it is important to work together [1:17:37] with both the City of St. Cloud and Osceola County, [1:17:39] including 911 addressing, [1:17:41] especially when secondary addresses are needed [1:17:44] to streamline processes for our customers. [1:17:47] Altogether, we feel that these efforts reflect [1:17:49] our commitment to continuous improvement, customer service [1:17:53] and building a safe, efficient, [1:17:54] and business friendly environment for all. [1:18:00] I'd like to briefly share some feedback gathered [1:18:02] over the past few years from our regular customers [1:18:05] and representatives from our neighboring jurisdictions. [1:18:10] It's clear that Kissimmee's permitting process [1:18:12] and review times have shown noticeable improvement, [1:18:14] and we're proud of the progress we have made. [1:18:17] While permitting software can often be seen [1:18:19] as a, quote, necessary evil in all jurisdictions, [1:18:23] what truly stands out is the feedback [1:18:24] we consistently receive about our staff. [1:18:27] Whether interacting in person or over the phone, [1:18:30] our team is regularly praised as the most helpful [1:18:32] and pleasant to work with. [1:18:34] Of course, every jurisdiction has its own strengths [1:18:37] and challenges when it comes [1:18:38] to permit review and inspections. [1:18:41] We've had discussion with peers [1:18:42] from neighboring jurisdictions [1:18:44] and they've showed similar feedback. [1:18:46] Their customers often tell them that, quote, [1:18:48] other jurisdictions do it better. [1:18:51] And I'll be honest, we hear this as well. [1:18:54] That being said, we're committed to continuing our efforts [1:18:56] to improve, grow and adapt to provide [1:18:59] the best possible service to our citizens and businesses. [1:19:05] So commissioners, I do wanna thank you [1:19:07] for your continued support of the Building Division [1:19:09] and the services we do provide to our community. [1:19:12] One meaningful way you can contribute to help [1:19:15] is by connecting residents, business owners, [1:19:17] or other community members who reach out to you [1:19:19] with the right staff contacts in our department. [1:19:22] We're fortunate to have a strong leadership team, [1:19:25] including our Development Services Director, Craig Holland, [1:19:28] our Assistant Development Services Director, Doug Etheridge, [1:19:31] our Building Official Juan F. Hernandez, [1:19:33] our Deputy Building Official, Albert Rocco and myself. [1:19:38] When making a referral, [1:19:39] having just a few key details like a person's name, [1:19:42] contact information, the permit [1:19:44] or the BTR number if applicable, the address of the project [1:19:48] and a short summary of the concern helps us [1:19:50] respond more efficiently and accurately. [1:19:53] We truly do appreciate your support [1:19:54] and helping us serve our community as well. [1:19:57] With that, I'll hand it back over [1:19:59] to Development Services Director Craig Holland [1:20:01] to continue the discussion [1:20:02] and then address any questions that you guys may have. [1:20:05] - Thank you. [1:20:10] - Thank you, Samantha. [1:20:12] So just to wrap this up for discussion, [1:20:16] this will be a lot very similar [1:20:17] to the code enforcement discussion, [1:20:20] and also if we do have questions, [1:20:22] almost the entire Building Division supervisory staff [1:20:24] is here to answer any questions that I'm unable to answer. [1:20:27] But we're looking for the commission [1:20:29] to give us your expectations of the building process. [1:20:33] Now that you have a better understanding [1:20:34] of what that process is, [1:20:36] the City Commission should define an issue, [1:20:39] define what the problems and issues are [1:20:41] with the building process. [1:20:42] I hear a lot of times I meet [1:20:44] with all the commissioners when they first get on, [1:20:46] sometimes I meet with you as candidates, [1:20:48] and I hear, it's hard to get a permit, [1:20:50] but when I say, what about it is hard? [1:20:53] Nobody knows because that's all they've heard, [1:20:56] and nobody thinks to ask, [1:20:57] well, what's your experience like? [1:20:59] Because make, when I go out [1:21:01] and say, what do you need from us? [1:21:03] They're like, oh, you guys are great. [1:21:04] So anything you, any details that you could share [1:21:08] with us about what you feel the problems [1:21:10] and issues are would be very helpful. [1:21:12] Next steps, possible next steps are define enhancements [1:21:16] desired by the City Commission. [1:21:18] The City Commission provide direction to our staff [1:21:20] on where you would like to see us go with the process [1:21:23] and solutions based on commission expectations, problems [1:21:28] and issues will be then determined [1:21:30] and we'll proceed with those solutions. [1:21:34] So if you have any questions [1:21:35] or any comments, be happy to take those. [1:21:42] - Well, thank you. [1:21:43] - You're welcome. [1:21:46] - Yeah. [1:21:47] Commissioners, do you have any comments or questions? [1:21:51] - Well, so far, I experienced myself, [1:21:57] I want to congratulate your department [1:21:58] because as a commissioner, you know I have some constituent [1:22:02] with issues with problem [1:22:05] who been for many years already [1:22:07] and we have good results. [1:22:09] Thank you. [1:22:10] - Thank you. [1:22:12] - So with all the technology [1:22:17] that we just invested in in your department, I think [1:22:21] that your process should flow almost to perfection now. [1:22:29] I know you're not perfect, I'm not saying that, [1:22:31] but I mean, I don't see the turnaround decreasing [1:22:37] with all the technology that you have. [1:22:39] You have the adequate staffing that you need. [1:22:42] So everything is there. [1:22:45] It just needs to be basically implemented. [1:22:48] Am I right? [1:22:50] - I would actually argue that our turnaround time, [1:22:54] it's, based on what you've seen, [1:22:56] it's better than the other two jurisdictions [1:22:58] in the county. [1:22:58] - So what I'm saying, it could only be better. [1:23:00] - It could, yes. [1:23:02] - Yeah, it could only get better [1:23:02] because of the resources that is available [1:23:06] to you right now. - Right. [1:23:07] - That's all I'm saying. - And there's a flip side [1:23:08] to that, that the applicants need to do better also. [1:23:12] - Absolutely, it's a two-way street, I agree. [1:23:14] - I often joke that a lot of plans come in [1:23:16] that are basically crayons on napkins. [1:23:18] I am not kidding. [1:23:20] I am serious. [1:23:21] They come in and they're a mess. [1:23:22] And there's something called review by design, [1:23:25] or design by review, where they'll turn in absolute minimums [1:23:29] and then we basically design the project with our comments. [1:23:32] So it's a two-sided thing. [1:23:34] - Yes, absolutely, I agree. - We will always strive [1:23:37] to improve, but there's only so much we can do [1:23:40] if the permit applicants don't want [1:23:43] to improve also. - Right. [1:23:44] I'm a true believer that knowledge is power, [1:23:48] and the more you know, the better you'll be. [1:23:51] - Yes. [1:23:52] - And with that being said, with those lunch [1:23:55] and learnings that you're doing, [1:23:56] those initiatives, that's perfect. [1:24:00] Perfect, perfect. - It was super well received. [1:24:03] The second month is sold out already again. [1:24:06] Not sold out, but filled up. [1:24:08] We're not selling tickets. [1:24:09] (participants laugh) [1:24:10] It's actually free, and we give free lunch, [1:24:11] so there's no selling out. - I was gonna say, [1:24:12] you must be got a concert going on up in there. [1:24:15] But I think you're doing a wonderful job. [1:24:18] I'm not trying to put you down, I'm just saying-- [1:24:20] - Oh, I get it. - It's only gonna get better [1:24:22] because of the resources that has been provided to you. [1:24:26] - Yes. - That's what I'm saying. [1:24:27] - Oh, okay. - So thank you. [1:24:29] - Thank you. - Yeah, no, no, [1:24:29] you're doing great. [1:24:30] You're doing great. - Thank you. [1:24:31] - I just want to repeat, like for my short time [1:24:35] as a commissioner, I have a very good experience [1:24:38] with your department, and we resolve a lot of problems [1:24:42] because sometimes people, they don't know [1:24:46] how it is the process. [1:24:47] Sometimes it's lack of education. [1:24:50] - Absolutely. [1:24:52] - And we have to guide them to the right process. [1:24:54] But myself, since I start as a commissioner, [1:25:00] I have to say they've being very active [1:25:04] with the issues and we resolve a lot of issues already. [1:25:07] Yes, I repeat again, thank you. [1:25:09] - Thank you. [1:25:12] - Thank you. [1:25:13] Commissioner Alvarez. [1:25:15] - I have no, I have no remarks. [1:25:17] They pretty much checked off all the boxes. [1:25:19] Every question I was gonna bring about, your presentation [1:25:22] pretty much clarified all that, [1:25:24] but thank you so much for your work. [1:25:26] - Thank you. [1:25:27] That was all Samantha. - Good job. [1:25:28] - Thank you. [1:25:29] Commissioner Martinez. [1:25:30] - I have a question, but my question [1:25:31] would basically be more referred to Kissimmee Main Street [1:25:34] since they do the participation with the businesses. [1:25:38] I get a lot of people that reach out to me [1:25:40] and say, the fire inspectors came out [1:25:44] and they didn't tell me about the fire extinguisher [1:25:47] and I gotta wait for them to come back again. [1:25:50] And the whole situation, [1:25:51] like Craig was saying about the turnaround on the time, [1:25:54] 'cause sometimes it's the lack of education, [1:25:56] that they don't know how to deal with the portal. [1:25:58] They don't know where to find the comments. [1:26:00] Like there's several tabs that they have to click on. [1:26:02] So from your perspective, [1:26:04] what feedback have you gotten [1:26:05] from the businesses in the area? [1:26:09] - Please. [1:26:11] And I'm sorry I skipped you over [1:26:13] after we closed out that CRM, but I was gonna come back [1:26:16] after this and have you come. - I could email it. [1:26:17] It was just in favor of the item eight. [1:26:20] - Thank you. [1:26:21] - So I think a lot of what Craig says that we see also. [1:26:24] So sometimes as we're going through the process [1:26:27] and working with them, we realize [1:26:29] that sometimes it's something that they've neglected. [1:26:31] But I will say that not as of late, [1:26:34] but in the past, we've had many, many complaints, [1:26:39] tears, frustration in reference to the time that it took. [1:26:43] We, and again, I'm not in the trenches [1:26:46] to see this file, so I can only tell you [1:26:47] what you've asked me. [1:26:49] We had one individual that came to us in tears [1:26:53] that if it didn't open, she'd been doing this for a year, [1:26:55] and if she didn't get opened by this month, then her whole, [1:26:58] you know, dream of being a home, of being a business owner, [1:27:00] you know, she'd have to give it up. [1:27:02] So we've seen that a couple times, [1:27:04] but then again, we talked to Craig [1:27:06] and we find out, well they, you know, they were supposed [1:27:08] to call back and tell us that this was done [1:27:11] so that we can go to the next step. [1:27:12] So, you know, again, this isn't as of late. [1:27:15] This was, you know, in previous businesses [1:27:17] that start up. [1:27:18] I think first of all, the trainings [1:27:21] that they're doing are incredible. [1:27:23] I went to the first one, I'm scheduled [1:27:24] to go to the one tomorrow. [1:27:26] It helps us be able to help them. [1:27:29] If I could give any advice [1:27:32] or, you know, a way to make it better, I don't know [1:27:36] how Main Street can help more by being in the process. [1:27:40] That's where kind of like we lose it [1:27:41] because we have to go by what they said. [1:27:43] We're not able to read the actual notes or what's going on. [1:27:46] So it makes it difficult for us to be able to truly help. [1:27:49] And sometimes that requires us to call Craig [1:27:51] or to call somebody at the city to kind [1:27:53] of bogle them down more by needing more information. [1:27:57] So that's what we see. [1:28:00] - All right. [1:28:01] So you've seen a decline [1:28:02] in all the issues versus what we have right now in place [1:28:08] with all the technology, the update of the website, [1:28:11] the videos, the luncheons and all that? [1:28:13] - How much of that is, you know, the actual decrease [1:28:16] in that work and the fact that we're full downtown too? [1:28:19] You know, we don't have as many businesses coming in. [1:28:20] I think the majority of the problems happen [1:28:23] with the restaurants though. [1:28:24] You know, the hood suppression, you know, [1:28:26] the fire suppression system, all of these things [1:28:27] that come into play that they're not aware of. [1:28:29] One of the things that we discussed at Main Street [1:28:33] that we thought would be wonderful [1:28:34] is if there was an inspection prior [1:28:36] to, almost like when you purchase a home [1:28:38] and there's a home inspection, something like that. [1:28:41] When there's a business that's purchased [1:28:43] because a lot of times, the previous owner [1:28:45] of that business does not tell you [1:28:47] that they've unplugged the exit signs [1:28:49] or that they're no longer using, you know, [1:28:51] the oven the way to its full capacity. [1:28:53] So these people buy these businesses without having any [1:28:56] of that information. [1:28:57] So, and then, you know, I realized, [1:29:00] caveat entered, buyer beware, yes, of course. [1:29:03] But if there was some type of inspection in place, [1:29:06] and I don't know if that's possible, [1:29:08] but I think that that would make a huge difference [1:29:10] in some of the individuals who try to open a business [1:29:13] and then it takes them a year or two just to get it ready. [1:29:18] - I think one of the issues, [1:29:19] and part of me is that we have to define [1:29:21] where does the responsibility lie? [1:29:24] Right? [1:29:24] Sometimes we think it's the Permitting Department, [1:29:28] but it really, where does the new business owner... [1:29:33] I mean, as much as I'd love to say [1:29:35] that it's always the Building Department, [1:29:37] it's not always that. [1:29:38] And sometimes our new business owners don't understand, [1:29:43] especially if they're brand new. [1:29:45] And we've seen that today. [1:29:46] We actually had a conversation about that, [1:29:47] so, it's 50-50, right? [1:29:50] And-- [1:29:51] - Sometimes when they come from other countries, [1:29:52] that's an added, you know, obstacle [1:29:54] because the way they do, right. [1:29:56] The way they did it somewhere else, [1:29:58] they're trying to do it here. [1:29:59] Right, right. [1:29:59] So I think [1:30:01] it's the hamster wheel. [1:30:04] This is gonna happen over and over and over [1:30:06] and we would just hope to get better. [1:30:09] So yeah, that's kind of a challenge, I guess. [1:30:13] I'm sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off. [1:30:14] Do you have any other questions or comments? [1:30:15] - I just wanted to get an outside perspective [1:30:17] because I've seen the great work that they're doing, [1:30:21] the videos that are being uploaded and being shared [1:30:23] and are having the community being able [1:30:25] to participate in it. [1:30:26] So I just wanted to see if there was something [1:30:28] that I wasn't seeing from a different perspective. [1:30:30] So thank you Diana, appreciate. [1:30:32] - Yeah, no, I don't think so. [1:30:33] And I really think that with time we're gonna see [1:30:35] the positive impact that these changes have made, so. [1:30:38] - And anytime there's an issue, you know, they always help [1:30:41] and they make sure that everybody gets [1:30:42] their concerns addressed, so. [1:30:45] All right, thank you. [1:30:46] - I understand you're having a sign code meeting [1:30:50] coming up June 25th. [1:30:53] - At what meeting? [1:30:54] - Sign Code. [1:30:55] - Sign code meeting. - Oh, sign code, yes. [1:30:56] - So that-- - On the fifth. [1:30:57] So can you elaborate a little bit on that? [1:30:59] - So we are redoing our sign code, which is part [1:31:03] of the City Code of Ordinance. [1:31:04] And we're modernizing it, kind of streamlining it. [1:31:09] And there's certain things that we're not going [1:31:13] to permit anymore. [1:31:14] It's just gonna be kind of like, like window signage. [1:31:18] Window signage is the main [1:31:20] of everybody's existence and development services [1:31:23] because you pay a company to slap up, [1:31:26] cling wrap on your window [1:31:28] and then you go, well, you're in violation [1:31:30] of the sign code. [1:31:31] They go back to the sign company [1:31:33] and it's like, well that's your responsibility. [1:31:34] We just sold you the stuff and put it up. [1:31:36] So we're actually going to recommend to the commission [1:31:39] that you no longer regulate window signage, [1:31:43] and except for downtown where it's important [1:31:46] to have open windows and things like that. [1:31:48] So that's one of the bigger things. [1:31:51] But it's a lot of just streamlining it, make it very easy [1:31:55] for somebody to pick it up and use for a sign company [1:31:59] for it to pick it up and use. [1:32:01] And that meeting is really just to have business owners, [1:32:05] sign code people, everything come in. [1:32:07] There's also some antiquated parts of the sign code. [1:32:11] The references to political signs will all be removed [1:32:14] because of the Supreme Court decision. [1:32:17] It'll be changed up [1:32:18] so that we meet Supreme court decisions, things like that. [1:32:22] First amendment rights. - That also pertains also [1:32:23] to awnings as well? [1:32:26] Awnings, the littering size? [1:32:28] - Right, that's considered [1:32:29] a sign. - That's pretty much [1:32:30] what you're gonna-- [1:32:31] - Right. [1:32:32] - All right, so I just recommend folks to go out there [1:32:33] and do, make this meeting, you know, voice your opinions [1:32:36] and you know, be part of the community [1:32:38] and you know, we look for your inputs. [1:32:40] So June 25th at 5:00-- [1:32:43] - Yes. [1:32:44] - Do come out. [1:32:45] All right. [1:32:46] Thank you. [1:32:47] - Thank you. [1:32:48] Craig-- - Good job. [1:32:49] - This presentation that you just put up, [1:32:50] is this on your website? [1:32:52] I feel like we went over the entire website on here. [1:32:54] (commissioners laugh) [1:32:55] - We don't have it on the website. [1:32:57] We can put it on the website. [1:32:58] - It's probably everything that we shouldn't do is on there. [1:33:01] It's probably a good tool. [1:33:02] I mean we, you know, thank you for the detail. [1:33:05] It was very, very detailed. [1:33:07] My direction would be never to do that again, [1:33:09] but that's just maybe. [1:33:11] (commissioners laugh) [1:33:12] - I've already got a couple text messages. [1:33:13] - Because like put it on the website. [1:33:14] We'll have to read it. [1:33:15] - Yeah. [1:33:16] (Mayor laughs) [1:33:17] And translate it in Spanish, everyone's happy. [1:33:18] - Yeah, I think-- - Because reality [1:33:19] is it's a lot to process. [1:33:20] - Right. [1:33:21] - Even for us up here and you know, [1:33:23] it's, but it's a great presentation, don't get me wrong. [1:33:26] I just think that sometimes it's so much information, [1:33:30] it's TMI, and then at some point you lose me, [1:33:33] and if people have it, it's almost a reference point. [1:33:35] I like the ones that, for instance, [1:33:38] what can delay a building permit? [1:33:40] What can delay? [1:33:41] Those are key. [1:33:42] So even if you don't put the whole presentation, [1:33:44] it's almost like, that's almost a Q&A. [1:33:47] Put it on the website [1:33:48] and make sure everybody can refer to it [1:33:50] and I think it's just gonna simplify it [1:33:52] because if someone asked me right now what could delay it, [1:33:56] I wouldn't have a clue. [1:33:57] I would have to say hold up, let me go to page 122, [1:34:00] and then, well, I'm sorry. [1:34:02] (Mayor laughs) [1:34:03] I'm sorry. [1:34:04] But I appreciate you. [1:34:05] I want you to know, I appreciate you, it's just-- [1:34:06] - I do apologize for the length and the detail, [1:34:08] but I, well, first I thought I was going to a workshop [1:34:11] so I'd have a whole hour. [1:34:12] - Okay, yeah. - And I think [1:34:13] we probably took a whole hour, but-- [1:34:15] - Yes (laughs) [1:34:16] It felt like a workshop, [1:34:17] so thank you. - And again, I was having [1:34:18] a hard time [1:34:20] with the policy [1:34:24] that you all had in 2025 to figure out [1:34:26] what the issue really was. [1:34:28] And again, all I hear is it's hard to get a permit [1:34:31] and it takes too long when all the data I have says [1:34:35] we're quicker than everybody else. [1:34:36] - [Mayor] Yeah. [1:34:37] - So this, I just wanted [1:34:39] to make sure you all had all the information to make [1:34:41] the best decisions [1:34:42] and recommendations possible. - I like that we're quicker [1:34:44] than anybody else. [1:34:45] That was probably my favorite page on there. [1:34:47] And, but I am gonna ask you, [1:34:53] I don't ever want us to lose the human touch, right? [1:34:55] So I think that's part of the challenge, [1:34:57] as I know we have all this computer stuff [1:34:58] and not everyone understands the computers. [1:35:00] And some people come to us and say, we don't get it. [1:35:03] So I think sometimes a simple phone call fixes things, [1:35:08] but by the time we get a decline [1:35:10] and then we try to figure out who do we need to call [1:35:12] and you know, it's just so much. [1:35:14] I think sometimes we just are so automated, [1:35:17] and there's nothing wrong with that sometimes. [1:35:20] You know, and I think that simple phone call, [1:35:22] and it shouldn't just be from the applicant. [1:35:24] It could also be, [1:35:25] and and I'm not saying that you don't do it all the time. [1:35:27] I'm just saying [1:35:28] that sometimes, you know. - No, I mean, I agree with you [1:35:31] and we will walk somebody through and handle. [1:35:35] - I know you. - That's what we do. [1:35:36] So if somebody doesn't want to go online, [1:35:38] they could come in, we'll take them in the back. [1:35:41] We'll, that sounds bad, [1:35:42] but yeah, we'll take them [1:35:43] to a computer in the back (commissioners laugh) [1:35:44] and help them go through the process. [1:35:46] - For the record, that was a good thing. [1:35:48] (Mayor laughs) - And one of the big things [1:35:48] that we're doing is because we keep saying, [1:35:50] nobody picks up the phone. [1:35:52] Well, that's because 7:30, the calls start [1:35:55] and don't stop till 4:00. [1:35:56] And if you leave a voicemail, [1:35:59] and you'd be surprised people don't leave voicemails, [1:36:02] and then they wonder they can't get [1:36:04] anybody to answer the phone. [1:36:05] So this will be-- [1:36:07] - And you would think they're trying to open a business [1:36:08] and they'd answer their phone. [1:36:09] - Right. [1:36:10] - That doesn't always happen. [1:36:11] - You'll be able to call [1:36:12] and then they'll say, we'll call you back [1:36:15] when it's your turn in line, [1:36:16] so you can hang up and go about your day [1:36:18] and then we'll call you back. [1:36:20] - [Mayor] Sure. [1:36:21] - So that's gonna be a real plus. [1:36:22] You don't have to leave a voicemail, [1:36:23] and you know, I think that'll help a lot, [1:36:27] 'cause it shocks me that people will not leave voicemails. [1:36:32] And we return all voicemails within 24 hours. [1:36:35] Most of the time it's by the end of the day, [1:36:36] but within 24 hours. [1:36:39] - Well, thank you. [1:36:39] We thank you all. [1:36:41] - And also I would like to recommend [1:36:42] that you create a bridge with Osceola Board of Realtors [1:36:48] because some of this headache is created [1:36:51] because when people they buy [1:36:52] and they sell, especially they deal [1:36:55] with a real estate agent. [1:36:56] I received a lot of phone call from real estate agent, [1:36:59] mortgage loan officer where they have some issues. [1:37:02] I believe this large land, they should be extended to them. [1:37:06] The same way they get involved [1:37:07] in other issues with the city, [1:37:09] this is something very important. [1:37:12] - Okay. [1:37:13] - Thank you. [1:37:14] All right. [1:37:15] - Madam Mayor, before you close this out, I just wanna say [1:37:18] that I've sent already like about six [1:37:20] or seven people that have been literally held by their hand. [1:37:24] - Oh yeah. [1:37:24] - From the beginning of the process to understand how, [1:37:27] because I've tried to help them, staff's tried [1:37:30] to help them and they just didn't get it. [1:37:31] So when they went into the Building Department, [1:37:33] they took them in and took them to the back and helped them. [1:37:37] (commissioners laugh) [1:37:37] I like that, so thank you for that. [1:37:39] I just wanted to acknowledge you guys on that. [1:37:40] - Thank you. [1:37:41] Thank you for all you're doing. [1:37:43] All right, so city managers, [1:37:46] is that all you need on that one? [1:37:47] Direction to staff? [1:37:48] That's pretty much it on that. [1:37:49] Do you need anything? [1:37:50] - One more presentation we have, no, I'm just kidding. [1:37:52] (commissioners laugh) [1:37:54] - Is that 123 pages? [1:37:55] Sorry. [1:37:58] - No, ma'am, I think we've got a good direction. [1:38:00] - Thank you. [1:38:01] So if you heard my stomach growling, it's your fault, [1:38:02] Craig, thank you very much. [1:38:04] (participants laugh) [1:38:05] It's all good. [1:38:07] We should have eaten those cookies. [1:38:08] That's right. [1:38:09] All right, so we're gonna move on [1:38:11] to 8D Advisory Board vacancy, Board of Adjustments. [1:38:14] City Manager. [1:38:16] - Madam Mayor, Commissioner Martinez [1:38:19] has this appointment. [1:38:20] If she does not make the appointment tonight, [1:38:22] we'll have to do an extension. [1:38:25] - Hi, Madam Mayor. [1:38:27] For the Advisory Board, I'd like [1:38:29] to appoint Raymond Sanchez. [1:38:33] - I second motion. [1:38:35] I second that. [1:38:38] - Motion by Commissioner Martinez, [1:38:41] second by Commissioner Alvarez. [1:38:43] All in favor? [1:38:44] - Aye. [1:38:45] - Motion carries. [1:38:47] All right. [1:38:49] I think we've reached the end of our journey here. [1:38:50] So now we're gonna hear from city officials. [1:38:52] City Manager. [1:38:54] - Thank you, Madam Mayor, commissioners, [1:38:55] I have nothing tonight. [1:38:56] Thank you. [1:38:58] - You don't. [1:38:59] (commissioners laugh) [1:39:00] Thank you. [1:39:02] City Attorney. [1:39:03] - Wanna get further? - I'll make this quick [1:39:05] since it's late, but I just wanted to give y'all an update [1:39:08] that I will be advertising the noise, alcohol [1:39:11] and lien ordinances for first reading for July 1st. [1:39:15] I will have a draft circulated to you individually [1:39:19] so that you can study it before the meeting. [1:39:21] And then the second reading [1:39:23] would be at the following meeting, [1:39:26] which is July 15th. [1:39:30] So first and second readings of those. [1:39:32] - Oh, Madam Mayor, I had something else too. [1:39:34] - Sure. [1:39:35] - She just prompted me. [1:39:36] (commissioners laugh) [1:39:37] - He just remembered. [1:39:38] - No presentation, no. [1:39:40] So July 1st, we'll also have the proposals [1:39:44] that were resubmitted from the four hotel developments. [1:39:48] We'll be scheduling it for that date as well. [1:39:50] - So I understand it's gonna be a busy July 1st. [1:39:52] Everyone here, please come [1:39:54] and join the party, it's important. [1:39:56] (commissioners laugh) [1:39:56] - And we also have a workshop at 3:00 [1:39:57] before that meeting on the CRA Master Plan for-- [1:40:00] - So when getting July 4th started. [1:40:02] - That's right. [1:40:03] That's the month [1:40:04] of July fireworks. - Fireworks. [1:40:05] - Please make sure to invite everyone. [1:40:08] (commissioners laugh) [1:40:09] Sorry, as we should. [1:40:11] City Commission, let's see if you have any comments [1:40:14] at this point. [1:40:15] We'll start with Commissioner Martinez. [1:40:19] - It's been a long night. [1:40:20] Thank you guys for showing up and being here. [1:40:22] (Martinez laughing) [1:40:25] - That's it? [1:40:26] - Yes ma'am. [1:40:27] - Okay. [1:40:28] Commissioner Alvarez. [1:40:28] - I have no comment. [1:40:30] - Thank you. - I have no comment. [1:40:31] - Commissioner Ortiz. [1:40:33] - I just want to remind (indistinct) [1:40:36] to extend my deepest condolence to the Indian community [1:40:39] in Kissimmee for all of them who lost [1:40:41] in the tragic accident last week, families and members, [1:40:45] so my deep condolence for that. [1:40:48] - Thank you. [1:40:48] Thank you, that's accurate. [1:40:50] Vice Mayor Eady. [1:40:51] - Sure, I do have a comment. [1:40:53] Actually, I have a slide I want you guys to see. [1:40:55] - Are you for real? - Not a presentation. [1:40:56] - Not Angela, are you for real? [1:40:58] (commissioners laughing) [1:40:59] - I seen this online yesterday. [1:41:03] And what the City of Tampa is doing is they're implementing [1:41:07] a program where they're putting in drinking fountains [1:41:11] in the areas where the homeless population [1:41:14] are congregating at. [1:41:15] And I think that it would be a good idea if we would partner [1:41:19] with Toho to try to do some of the same thing, [1:41:23] considering it is so hot right now, [1:41:27] and they're just out there. [1:41:31] What do you guys think? [1:41:34] - City Manager. [1:41:36] - Commissioners, if you guys are interested, [1:41:38] it's something I could reach out to Toho Water Authority, [1:41:40] see if they have a desire to assist perhaps [1:41:44] and that may be something we can look at [1:41:46] through our CDBG Program as well. [1:41:48] - Thank you. [1:41:49] Thank you for bringing that. [1:41:50] That's actually very innovative. [1:41:53] I think that's, especially at our parks, [1:41:56] not just for the homeless, [1:41:57] but for the kids [1:41:58] and everyone out there. - Exactly. [1:41:59] - That's a great... [1:42:00] That's a great opportunity to research. [1:42:03] Thank you. [1:42:04] That's it? [1:42:05] - Yes, and that's it. [1:42:07] - Okay. [1:42:10] I wanna say, happy birthday, Mr. Tom Kapp. [1:42:12] You're here with us today, [1:42:13] so I wanna wish you a happy birthday. [1:42:15] You spent your whole evening with us here. [1:42:16] Thank you. [1:42:17] (participants laughing) [1:42:19] That's a warrior right there. [1:42:21] So I wanted to congratulate you publicly. [1:42:26] Juneteenth was a great success. [1:42:27] I thank everyone that came out [1:42:29] and absolutely enjoyed that celebration. [1:42:32] I had a great time. [1:42:33] And as usual, we danced a lot. [1:42:35] We had a good time [1:42:37] and we fellowshiped with many residents in our community. [1:42:41] Same was with Pride Fest, [1:42:43] and I was excited to go out to those events. [1:42:46] I just ask everyone to share those events online [1:42:50] so that we can continue to create community. [1:42:53] I think it's very important [1:42:54] that we continue doing that. [1:42:57] Tomorrow, City Manager and Vice Mayor, [1:43:00] we're going to Tampa to... [1:43:02] I'm sorry, I keep saying tomorrow. [1:43:04] I think I'm ahead of myself. [1:43:05] Thursday. [1:43:06] Thursday. [1:43:07] We're gonna go and connect with other mayors [1:43:10] and other elected officials. [1:43:11] And we won't be staying there that evening, [1:43:13] but we are very excited to go out there [1:43:16] and represent Kissimmee, City of Kissimmee [1:43:18] as best as we can. [1:43:20] So it'll be a fun time. [1:43:24] And I also wanna ask everyone, [1:43:28] if you would share every time you know [1:43:30] that we have a commission meeting [1:43:32] and encourage your fellow neighbors to come up and speak. [1:43:36] We wanna allow grandstanding, [1:43:38] but we certainly wanna hear you speak. [1:43:41] We wanna hear your concerns. [1:43:44] One suggestion I'm always gonna make is please bring [1:43:46] your suggestions also, how can we fix it? [1:43:50] And that is the point [1:43:51] that I wanna talk about really quickly. [1:43:54] KPD is doing an amazing job keeping us updated every weekend [1:43:58] with the incidents that happen in our local town [1:44:01] and our local city area. [1:44:03] And once again, City Manager, [1:44:06] we did have, and we stopped two trucks. [1:44:09] And I bring this up [1:44:10] because I know there's concerns [1:44:12] and I just want you to kind of, and he's looking it up. [1:44:14] I know he always looks it up. [1:44:15] He should have been ready for me. [1:44:17] You know that's coming. [1:44:18] But we are stopping people for noise ordinance, [1:44:21] not just on the businesses, but cars, and Chief Broadway, [1:44:25] thank you for your leadership on that. [1:44:27] I think it's important we're starting to see a change. [1:44:29] Some people are starting... [1:44:30] You see, once you do it once [1:44:31] or twice and people get stopped [1:44:33] and they get cited, it starts spreading. [1:44:35] So make sure we are the advocates for our city [1:44:39] and we tell people, if you ride downtown [1:44:41] with that music blaring, most likely you'll get a ticket. [1:44:44] And if we start putting that message out there, [1:44:46] I think people will start hearing it. [1:44:48] It's gonna take a minute, [1:44:50] but it's definitely, it needs to be said. [1:44:52] So City Manager, do you have a report? [1:44:54] I, we should report everything every time [1:44:56] we do one of these things. [1:44:57] - Yeah, we pulled nine people over [1:44:59] in the downtown area this weekend. [1:45:02] 18, two 18 wheelers driving downtown. [1:45:05] Four with loud music, one with headlights out, one [1:45:07] with red headlights [1:45:09] and one with bright lights like the brights on. [1:45:12] So they're definitely, [1:45:14] I mean, the amount is decreasing that they're catching, [1:45:17] but they are definitely making it [1:45:18] a point to be present down there. [1:45:20] - So it's important that we also note those things [1:45:23] because you have to understand every time [1:45:24] the cops pull someone over, [1:45:26] you never know who's on the other side. [1:45:27] So that is also a risk. [1:45:30] And so we all have to be cognizant of that. [1:45:32] And I just wanna thank KPD. [1:45:33] Every time I can possibly have an opportunity to thank them [1:45:37] because these are the little things [1:45:38] that change that environment. [1:45:40] But Mr. Kapp, I want you to keep calling me [1:45:42] and letting me know when they're not doing [1:45:43] because it's important that we know (laughs) [1:45:46] including waste management and everyone else. [1:45:47] I know, I brought that up to City Manager [1:45:50] and he was gonna look into this, the-- [1:45:51] - We're looking it up [1:45:52] 'cause if it was, if it was [1:45:53] like the county waste management trucks, [1:45:55] then they probably shouldn't be going through downtown. [1:45:57] But if it's like a dumpster truck, [1:45:58] then that would be an exception that would be allowed. [1:46:01] - But we love that you get involved and you tell us. [1:46:03] That's how we start creating [1:46:04] a different vibe in our community. [1:46:06] And some of you know [1:46:08] that some businesses have violated certain things [1:46:11] and we are not gonna call them out here publicly [1:46:14] 'cause we know what the issues are. [1:46:15] But we will continue calling businesses out as we should. [1:46:18] And so just, if you wanna... [1:46:22] We get so many emails [1:46:23] of things of that shouldn't be happening [1:46:25] and we appreciate it because it's the only way [1:46:28] that we can keep an eye out [1:46:30] and, you know, food trucks shouldn't be selling on the side [1:46:33] of the road without, I mean, just these little things. [1:46:36] And we get emails and pictures all the time. [1:46:38] So, you know, I think it's a great thing. [1:46:40] So I wanna thank the community for doing that. [1:46:42] Don't stop. [1:46:43] Say so, what is it? [1:46:44] See something, say something. [1:46:45] It doesn't matter what it is. [1:46:47] Commissioners, thank you. [1:46:48] I was trying to get to right at 8:00, [1:46:49] but you know, we're a little early, so thank you all. [1:46:52] I think (laughs) this meeting is adjourned. [1:46:54] (Mayor hits gavel)