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It's a workshop agenda, special session of the City Commission, City of Kissimmee. On today's day, August 25, starting now at 5.30.

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Thank you Madam Mayor. Commissioner is good evening and thank you again for your time today. Good news is we, in having our first two budget workshops, we were able to narrow down the things that we needed to do in order to balance the budget. I'm pleased to present to you today a

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the balance budget request that does very minimal damage in terms of significant cuts in order to balance,

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and does not ask the commission to increase any revenue streams in order to balance either.

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The theme of the budget is propel.

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Originally, I was going to call it survival, because I really didn't think that we were going to be able to do much in this budget to balance it.

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But the good news is is through the hard work of the departments and the finance and budget team we were able to get to a place that we're able to propel the city forward and meeting your objectives as a commission and pursuing those initiatives and projects that are important to move the city forward while at the same time ensuring that the city budget is well within the means of our revenue streams that are before us.

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This year we proposed a budget that maintains a millage of 4.653 for the 18th year in a row.

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What you will see is that the total proposed budget is almost $322 million.

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And what we had adopted last year was $310 million.

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But the real story lies in the general fund, and that's where we see the biggest issues.

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General fund, as you know, is funded about a third in by property taxes, about 50% through utility revenues from KUA into a water authority.

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And then the remainder of funding comes from various sources, including service charges, state distributions, utility taxes, franchise fees.

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And what you'll see with the General Fund is that we actually are decreasing the total General Fund from last year by around a percent.

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The good news is as we project at the end of this upcoming budget year at the end of 2027 we'll be able to maintain a 31% reserve

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even though we are projecting to dip into those reserves by about $5 million for this upcoming budget year in order to help us balance.

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So it's actually less, I think the last workshop, we had proposed around an $8 million dip into reserves.

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And we were able to reduce that through a number of measures.

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And as well, we saw revenues that looked like they were a little bit better than we originally had forecasted.

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So this budget, where it does become a little painful, is that we do not propose any new positions for fiscal year 2027.

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And in lieu of, to the best that we can, we can afford to do this, in lieu of doing

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any position elimination, we're going to try our best to carry forward with the hiring

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freeze through the fiscal year, say for those positions that are critical in nature.

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And if we can keep approximately 20 to 25 of those positions vacant from general fund for

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the year we should be able to avoid dipping into the reserve any further.

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In addition, we have what we've done with this budget is with regard to personnel as we

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have proposed a 3% raise for our workforce.

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That does not include the police collective bargaining team, which were in the process of negotiating

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and likely that will be a higher increase in order to keep pace with the salaries that

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the sheriff and St. Cloud are negotiating at this time.

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This budget also takes all of our capital expenditures out of general fund and places it within

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the sales tax fund.

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That was necessary because of the flat revenues that we're seeing that are feeding the general

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fund itself.

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Because of that, there will be several projects that we won't be able to pursue this upcoming

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year.

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But the good news is, is those projects that were part of the commission's priorities will continue to move forward as well as those critical projects that we feel are necessary in order to mitigate things like storm order issues and flooding as well as traffic signal and safety issues and resurfacing for the city, which we've been able to do a real good job over the last year and a half in Paving 49 miles of repaving 49 miles of streets.

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With that, I'm going to turn over the floor to Finance Director,

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Xavier Richie, who will give you a little bit more in depth overview of the budget.

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And then following that, we will go through each of the department's pages at the pleasure of the commission.

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It's

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a good evening, Madam Mayor, commissioners.

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So the GFOA did a survey of over 1,100 finance professionals across the nation on the biggest

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challenges facing governments that they foresee and what you see on the screen are the top

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answers that they selected.

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So you'll see funding revenue pressures that's related to revenue on being less than expenditures

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lagging behind. Technology and cyber security came in second on the list.

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Just think ERPs and cyber threats, federal and state uncertainty.

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Just think mandates coming down from federal and the state level as well as unstable funding stream.

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So those grants that we've been pursuing, it's unsure whether or not they'll keep coming into what level.

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Staffing and retention, just think turnover, staff retirements and

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talent shortages and then inflation and cost and that's pretty much what we're seeing here and that's why we chose the theme propel

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Partly driven by a lot of the drivers that you've you've seen on that that previous screen

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But we wanted to make sure this budget represented our commitment to turn uncertainty into momentum and to continue moving the city forward

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So the city's overall budget for fiscal year 2027 proposed is just under 322 million

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That's a 3.6% increase over last year's budget.

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So keep in mind as the budget grows, it may mean that reserves are growing with the budget.

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So our $322 million budget does include just over $92 million of reserves.

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That's up from the $74 million in reserves that we saw last year.

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However, this is spread out across all funds.

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So general fund actually stayed flat with our amount of reserves.

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the reserve increases, they're actually concentrated in our mobility fee fund,

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stormwater and the building fund.

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So you've seen this slide before but

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repetition makes for familiarity. A couple weeks ago we certified the proposed

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millage at 4.6253 as Mike said. That rate is what appeared on trim notices that

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went out to property owners a couple of weeks ago as well. So that rate will still

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keep us in the low percentile of the state, but it'll also now bring in just over $33

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million in property taxes for next year. Now, that amount, although it is a 7.7% increase

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over what we saw in values last year, it still isn't enough to cover the police and fire budgets.

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Both of those budgets combined are $70 million. It would be just enough to cover a fire.

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And so with our recommended operating mileage rate being 4.6253,

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the calculation for a rollback rate is boils down to actually 4.5144.

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So if we were to adopt that, that would be roughly $800,000 less that we would see.

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For fiscal year 2027, we saw a net new taxable value of just over $255 million throughout the city.

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We also saw reassessments in new taxable value for a total of almost $542 million,

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dollars bringing us to an overall assessed value of $7.5 billion

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citywide. And so if you look at the chart on the screen, you'll see from 2022 to

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2027, we averaged about $193 million in net new taxable values throughout the

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city. 2026 was really an outlier with that $355 million jump. We had a so

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$355 million in net new taxable value. And then if you compare that to the

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reassessments, we had $763 million in reassessments last year compared to the $541 this year, but the average being about $193 million since 2022, that equates over to $897,000.

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So if you put that in terms of the budget of an increase, it would be like a 2% increase for police personnel.

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So although it is a majority of our budget, it doesn't substantially cover increases in costs.

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So our overall budget for the general fund,

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I just need to say proposed, our overall proposed budget for the general fund for fiscal year of 2027 is 159,559,219 that does include $38 million of reserves.

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And so on the revenue side, we anticipate $116.4 million, that's a 4.9% increase from last fiscal year.

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And a lot of that increase is made up of our core revenues.

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So think Avallorum, KUA, Toho, and our newly implemented fire assessment fee.

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Our projected expenditures are, as Mike said, 1% less than what we adopted last year.

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That's $887,000 less than what we adopted last year for $121.5 million.

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Now, the map is a little bit unforgiving because you'll see that we are drawing on reserves

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as Mike said, as evidenced by the $5.1 million being in red.

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So there is a $5.1 million reliance on fund balance for fiscal year 2027,

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which is not a sustainable approach as we are leaving out capital and no

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additional personnel being added to the budget.

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So fiscal year 27 cost drivers, we show this slide on all of our workshops that we've

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The story remains the same with a lot of the cost drivers being concentrated in that personnel category with pension coming in second at the 15% increase for next year and then health care is seeing a 12.9% increase jumping up to about $20,000 per employee for next year. And so on the previous slide I showed that our revenue was increasing about 4.9% from last year. That equates over to about a $5.4 million increase in revenue.

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to fund last year. However, if you break it out, there's $1.4 million going where the

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values increase in the CRAs. So that has to be transferred over to the trust funds.

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And then in the pension realm, there's $1.8 million increase related to the general fund.

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And on the healthcare side, there's $1.8 million of an increase related to the general fund.

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So that right there eats up that revenue increase that we saw of the $5 million. And so that's

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That's why you see a stipend into reserves because if you just concentrate it to those categories right there, you'll see why there's no funding left really for capital or operating increases.

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And so we'll shift away from our general fund and talk a little bit about our utility funds.

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A lot of this has not changed from a couple of weeks ago when we presented.

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So our utility funds, the city has three of them.

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They operate much like a business.

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And so that's why we charge fees.

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So our storm water fund, we are projected to generate approximately $8.1 million next fiscal

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year.

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That's an increase from last fiscal year of $7.6 million.

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The current ERU per month is now $11.39, that's 30 cents higher than what it was last year

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due to CPI increases.

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And there are no new positions planned for this fund.

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The biggest capital improvements plan for this fund are mill run and North Kiss and

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and we drainage improvements as well as a street sweeper for fiscal year 27.

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So our Solid Waste Fund is projected to generate approximately $8.25 million in fiscal year 27.

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That's up from the $8 million that we saw last year with the current rate per month for

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residential at $2,503 per month that's up from the $24.92 that we charge this current year.

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And so this fund is using reserves to balance but it's to fund one time capital purchases.

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There's a dump truck and a garbage truck and that fund, however, no new positions are

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planned for this fund either.

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And lastly, the smallest of our enterprise funds, the airport fund, small but mighty.

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It is projected to generate approximately $3.1 million in fiscal year 27.

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I mean, it's heavily supported by grant matches and landing fees and no new positions are

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planned for this fund as well.

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with the biggest capital program in this fund,

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being our airport tower and taxiway rehab project.

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So aside from the general fund, three enterprise funds,

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the city has a good number of special revenue funds.

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The biggest ones are presented here on the screen.

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So our local option gas tax funds,

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those funds are restricted to transportation,

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related maintenance and construction.

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That fund is projected to have $3.1 million

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dollars in revenue generated next year. The revenue is trending flat from what we are projected

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to collect this year. However, we did have to revise what we anticipated collecting from the

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budget last year. We anticipated collecting $3.5 million. However, we revised that down $400,000

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to $3.1. So the biggest project and local option gas tax fund is going to be armed signal construction

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at Bypass Road and Oaks Boulevard and then continued roadway maintenance.

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Our local option sales tax fund is in the same predicament where the decline in revenues

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has affected the level of projects that we are able to fund.

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Funding from this fund, it supports infrastructure and capital priorities identified in the interlocal

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agreement.

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We typically can see anywhere from up to $12 million in this fund.

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However, for fiscal year 2026, our collections aren't even hitting $11 million.

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and so that has, as I said before,

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it's affected the level of projects.

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We do have $5.4 million of debt programmed in this fund.

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And then the remainder of that is covering capital projects.

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As Mike said, the general fund is not funding capital.

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Most of that capital has been shifted over

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into the local option sales tax.

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And this fund has historically funded

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most of the capital for the city anyway.

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So our building fund is still sitting healthy.

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It supports building safety operations through fee revenue from permitting and inspections.

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Its revenue is projected to be $4.4 million next year.

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That's pretty flat from the previous years, which is actually healthy in terms of a building

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fund for revenue to be flat as long as it's not decreasing.

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Most notably, the overall budget for the building fund is $9.1 million compared to $6.6 million

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dollars that it was last year and that jump is just due to an increase in reserves.

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So lastly, our community redevelopment special revenue fund.

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So that revenue is restricted to reinvestment inside the designated redevelopment districts.

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The city has two CRAs.

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We saw an overall increase of 15% in valuations between the two CRAs for an overall revenue

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generation of over $10 million between the two tips.

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So for downtown, we saw 12% increase and for

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Vine Street, we saw a 19% increase and so that

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translates over to $547,000 for downtown and $789,000

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for Vine Street.

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And that increase typically is flip-flop,

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usually downtown increases more than Vine Street,

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but we saw the reverse issue with more growth in Vine Street.

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And so I'll hit on just a couple of our other major funds.

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Our Central Services Fund is an internal service fund.

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It includes our IT facilities and our fleet maintenance department.

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It is supported by transfers mostly from the general fund.

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The fleet does have some charges that it charges outside vendors, but

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it's mostly supported by transfers from the general fund.

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We are projected to receive approximately $14.1 million in transfers from

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a general fund next fiscal year that is down from the $14.6 million that we budgeted

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this current fiscal year and that's just keeping in line with the general fund as a transfer

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is coming from the general fund. We didn't fund as much capital and so there also are no new

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positions planned within this fund. Our mobility fee fund is projected to generate approximately

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one million dollars in fiscal year 27 revenue to be available for roadway projects and capacity

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improvements and the same with our impact fee funds. Fundings available for

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capacity improvements. The city has three impact fee funds. Police, fire, and

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recreation impact fees with our police and fire being newly most newly

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implemented. So we are projected to generate approximately $1.25 million

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across those funds with 500 being programmed for recreation impact fees and

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then 350 apiece for police and fire.

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And so typically when I do the budget work

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I like to think of it like an annual physical, so we kind of go over high level over all of the funds, and then we hit on some of the other major areas of which I call our vital signs.

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And so the first vital sign that we'll look at is the city's capital investment.

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So you'll see by the chart on the screen that we've averaged over $20 million of capital investment since fiscal year 2023.

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that that's the central amount of capital and it is well above our peers which which puts us in a good light and you'll see the drop off though for fiscal year 27

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of us only funding about $12 million in capital and that's due to the drop off of general fund funding capital.

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So our next slide our next vital sign as I should say is our debt service and so we've been able to we've been able to fund a lot of those capital investments

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that you saw on the previous side because we have optimized debt service and so that optimization

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has has helped us propel commission priorities by leveraging the city's ability to borrow.

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And because we've maintained that second highest bond rating of AA plus that has helped us be able

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to optimize that. And so our last borrowing was Series 2024 AMB that was for CRA projects, a couple

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of fire stations and some transportation improvements so previously our debt service was around 6.6 but

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we had some retirements of debt and then with the addition of the series 2024 we are now sitting

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at 8.7 million dollars in debt service annually and that is spread across our sales tax gas tax

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in our CRA funds.

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So our next vital sign is going to be our intergovernmental revenue. So the cities

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this is really where we really shine we sit in a unique spot to where we get

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revenue from KUA in Toho and then we really aggressively pursue grants and

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so this is why I believe the city really maximizes its internal or its

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intergovernmental revenue and you'll see by the chart on the screen that we have

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for last fiscal year we brought in just over $22 million in grant revenue that's

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significant amount. The majority of that was for transportation projects. About 72% of that

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with the biggest agency funding us being the U.S. Department of Transportation. And so a lot

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of that can be attributed to our airport.

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So our next vital sign will be our pensions. The city

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has three separate pension funds, well yeah, they're pension funds and plans. But we have police

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These fire in general, each year we are required to have an actuarial evaluation to look at our funding contributions and to set those levels each year.

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But the notable thing here is the increase that we've seen over the years, if you look back to fiscal year, 2023.

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Police has increased 171% and this is our required amount and so this is why I listed out the pension plans as one of our cost drivers.

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So you can kind of see the amounts that they've jumped over the past five years.

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So our fire plan has increased about 57% in what we've been required to contribute.

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And then our general plans up 46% over the three plans.

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However, we do have an overall funded ratio between all three plans of 84%.

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That average has been about the same for the past five years and it is in line with our peers and with state averages.

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So, lastly, our last vital sign is our reserves.

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So, as Mike mentioned, our reserves are projected to be 31% at the end of fiscal year 27.

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GFOA does recommend a minimum of 17%.

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And so, the reserves that are available right now to absorb a bad ear, they are shrinking,

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but that's something that's a trend that we'll look at to see if we can alter.

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here and so that concludes my slides.

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I will sit for any questions and turn it back over to Mike.

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Thank you.

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Any questions?

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Any questions?

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Any questions?

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Any questions?

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I have a question, Madam Mayor.

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May I be recognized?

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Yes.

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Thank you.

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In the beginning, when we spoke about the plan to eliminate the, um,

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Well, actually the gap that we have with a 5.126 million from the general fund gap, do we have a strategy on how we're going to, for the next, you know, a three year plan, five year plan on how we're going to minimize that gap so we don't keep tapping into the general fund.

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We've been traditionally tapping into the general fund reserve pretty much for probably

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30 years, maybe longer, and it does tend to get replenished because what we have to

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do with regard to positions is budget as if 100% of the positions were full, 100% of the

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time. Now what we're going to find this year with hiring freeze is that we'll have a less

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of that extra funding that will return to the reserves at the end of this fiscal year.

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And so that's something that we've got to continue to look at making efficiency improvements

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and cutting back in areas that we reasonably can in order to eliminate our reliance upon

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and all that, as a mechanism to balance the budget.

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Because I know as a right now,

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you've done a magnificent job, all of you.

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And, you know, we're very in a very good and healthy position.

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But as, you know, time goes by with everything that's happening,

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which is all uncertain, you know,

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if we keep putting our hand in the cookie jar,

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then we're going to end up with not enough cookies in there.

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Yeah, and the reality is this year,

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we've seen dipping revenues and flat revenues.

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use. And that's indicative of the economic conditions nationwide, hopeful that at some

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point in the future we'll see recovery. And those days will then hopefully return

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upon us. And when that does, then our reliance on the reserves shouldn't be as much of an

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issue as it is right now. But with amendment 3 looming, that's a major, major hit

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to our budget if it does pass, that's going to require additional measures that we're going to have to look at.

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And as I did this, let's

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try this again. Thank you for that, Mike.

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Another question that I have also on the solid waste based on the numbers that I found.

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It says that the reserve will be ending in about 148, 229.

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Is that something that is good for solid waste with the amount of budget that they have for the reserves?

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page 194 now it could be different in your book because you know I did this off

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the pdf on the side the reserves are so always fun they are dipping into the

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reserves I think it was about 800,000 however they still have healthy reserves and

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and they're five year, they're...

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They're above 20%. Okay, so they should be safe. Yes. Okay, so the waste fund is healthy. All right. Thank you for that. I don't have any further questions right now. Thank you. I appreciate that. Thank you. So now we'll move on to the review of departments. Yes, and Madam Mayor commissioners, it's really a pleasure how you want to do that. I'm sorry. I wanted to ask a question with regards to the reserve so that the public is informed of this.

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Yes, we are required to have a reserve.

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Yes, yes, we are required by the feds to have a reserve.

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But we're not required by the feds to have a reserve and we're not necessarily required

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by the state either.

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If you do not have a reserve, your auditors will flag you and then you will be considered

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like a physically constrained community and then the state may come in if you don't have

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a plan.

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Most places if they dip below a certain amount they'll set an ordinance and say if they dip below a certain amount

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Right, and they have to put a plan in place to to bring their reserves back up. Is it a flat rate that you're required or a percentage of what the

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Budget is purse most entities do a percentage

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17% or two and a half months of reserves

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Because I don't I don't want anybody to go out and say they got all this millions of dollars in the bank

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and they should be able to do this, that, and the third, but in reality, that money is required to be there.

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Correct, okay.

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In the city commission, I'm sorry, the city commission established a 20% reserve policy back in the early 2000s.

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Right, and we've held to that, we're in the 30%-30-ish mid-30s right now arranged by the end of this upcoming budget.

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But at the end of 2027, we anticipate we'll still be around 30 to 31 percent.

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Okay.

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So while it is an unsustainable path, we're not at the point where we'll go below 20 percent next year.

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Unless and then the three passes, then it'll happen much quicker.

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Okay.

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Gotcha.

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Thank you for clarification.

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Thank you.

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I don't know how you want to do this, what we've done in the past is we just, I'll call out each department and the pages and ask if the commission has any questions and we certainly have our department heads or department representatives here if there's any questions that the commission has directly of those individuals.

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If that's your pleasure, I'd be happy to get a roll up.

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Okay, so first department is the city commission department, which is pages 59 through 63 and we've largely kept this fund intact, given the commission's desires last year to have the ability to do additional training to do travel for economic development purposes and as well to have the outside contracts, particularly the outside contract for the commission.

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commission's assistant and so we have kept that funding intact in the budget and

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we also budgeted

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for what we anticipate will be an increase in the commission's salary based on the population

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numbers that we will get from the University of Florida which usually are out by now but hoping

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we'll see the many any day now. Commissioners, any questions on this item? No questions?

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Okay, our next department is the city managers department and that starts on page 64 and

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we've

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tried to keep that as relatively flat as we could as well factoring in the increase

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in workforce compensation increase as well as the increases in pension and health care.

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Thank you.

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Any questions?

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Any questions, Commissioner?

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No questions, Madam Mayor.

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Okay.

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Our next division or department, I'm sorry, is economic development that starts on page 79.

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And again, this is another department that we've tried to keep relatively flat.

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It's mostly personnel expenses.

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They do have funding budgeted as well for external partners that provide business assistant services,

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as, for instance, as well as events that we sponsor with various chambers and business

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organizations, and we have not proposed any cuts there.

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However, what we built into the budget for external funding cuts was $150,000.

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And that was primarily based on the commission.

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The last workshop there was some discussion about the commission wanting to explore

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We're ending our partnership with the UCF incubator, which is an annual $150,000 contract.

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But we do have other options to get to that $150,000.

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I don't necessarily need feedback today because I anticipate what we would do is come back to the commission with individual discussion items at a future commission meeting agenda to determine what you guys would like to consider cutting.

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And if anything, one of the things that David has done is reached out to the University of Central Florida and

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said, you know, what other options would we have to reduce the funding there?

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They said they actually could live with a 50% cut and fund the other 75,000 through their budget.

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And then we've also anticipated that the commission might want not to fund the Osceola legislative effort,

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which I believe even though the contract was reduced, the 35,000 that we still have 40,000 in the budget for that.

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Is that negotiable?

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Is that negotiable?

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The expenses for OLA?

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Yes.

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I don't believe so because we have discussed that in the past.

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They have contracts with lobbyists and that sort of line share of the funding for that contract goes.

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It's something that we could we could broach with the chamber and see if they're interested in doing that

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And then the other thing of no commissioners is and I'm going to get to this a little bit later

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Although we can talk about it now if you'd like

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We also have the social services quality of life funding that you all put

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$400,000 in and that actually comes out of your budget

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So some of that funding could come out of that fund as well and

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And I can, and I'll pass some information out to you that take home so that you can consider it in the future.

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We will come back to you for that as well, but there's $55,000 in funding that you all approved.

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For three different agencies that never came forward to claim that funding.

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They never submitted their invoices and their quarterly reports.

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And so that's essentially left $55,000 on the table.

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that's funding that you can consider, just not funding next year, to help us get to that 150 if you so choose.

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And then with regard to Kissimmee Main Street, I know that was a top of a good discussion at the last meeting as well.

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And we've determined that fully, Main Street can be fully funded through the downtown CRA fund.

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It's legal to do so, we check the law on that, and we also check the revenues and

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and determine that it's reasonable that it could be absorbed without a hit to the budget.

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Commissioner, are there any questions or comments?

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No questions.

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Thank you.

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Just open that along.

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This next department is City Attorney's Budget, which is page 85.

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And that one is almost flat.

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The actual, for 2025 was $592,000, the adjusted budget actually it's a decrease in my apologies.

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is 619 and what's being proposed is $602,000 for the upcoming year.

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Did we hire these other deputy attorney yet?

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Is it still posted out there for?

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It's okay, it's still available.

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Thank you.

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Yeah, it's a assistance city attorney.

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It is posted and it is not a position that is frozen.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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All right.

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Page 93 is our next department, which is Finance, and I don't know if you want to handle this.

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But as you can see, it's pretty flat as well,

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almost all personnel in order to increase fees.

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Yes, and then there's also the charges by other funds that get lumped into ours.

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There's also the charges by other funds that get lumped into the Finance budget.

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So I think the transfer is like I talked about the Central Services funds.

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Those get charged under finance and then transferred out.

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Okay, thank you.

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Good idea.

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Okay, there's no questions on development services.

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Our next department is, I'm sorry, finance.

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Our next department is development services, which starts on page 102.

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And it actually jumps to different areas besides the general fund.

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There is the building division fund.

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There is our CDBG fund, there's the home fund.

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There is the ship funds, so there's various funds as well as mobility funds that are managed by that department.

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And the general fund side of that department has also largely remained flat as well.

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I have a question, going back to the finance director, sorry, on page 103, the contract services.

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You went from 516 to 195, what ended, or like what was rebated, or what services were removed?

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103?

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103?

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Yeah.

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And that was under other contract services?

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No, give me one.

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This was,

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yeah, contract services.

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So that's probably 96?

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96?

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Yeah.

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Yeah, my pages are a little bit different, sorry.

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Are you comparing it to the estimate possibly?

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Yeah.

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Okay, that's where funding might have been rolled forward if we have gas B contracts or auditing stuff additional fees that come up.

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Okay, but it's projected out at 5.16, but if it's not spin it, it's return the fund back.

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I understand it's a proposed budget, but I just wanted to see what things are being shifted in, but thank you, I appreciate that.

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Okay, so development services were on, which is 102 to 106.

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And again, we're not adding any positions, so a lot of this is status quo, I guess you call it.

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There's no questions on development services.

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Our next fund is the police department, pages 107 to 127.

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And you will see there a pretty significant increase in the total budget.

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And that's a product of the fact that we've added a fair amount of officers as well as what TAVI had talked about earlier with regard to pension costs and health care costs as well.

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And the good news, if there's any, anybody expresses any concerns with regard to the fact that we're not adding any personnel this year, but yet we're surely going to see an increase of our city population when the estimate comes out.

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My guess is around 2000 and maybe 2500 population.

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We did get a grant from the federal government

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in order to hire six officers in the current fiscal year.

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And some of those positions that were added

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this current fiscal year as a result of that grant

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were actually scheduled to be hired

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in this upcoming fiscal year.

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And so more or less we're able to add those positions

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a year earlier.

427
00:43:23,250 --> 00:43:25,290
So more or less we're ahead of the game in that regard.

428
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:33,780
Commissioner, just stop us whenever you have a question so that Mike can just continue.

429
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,600
No, I don't ask after each one, so I'll just proceed.

430
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:44,780
All right, commissioners, if you have no questions on police, our next department is the fire department.

431
00:43:44,940 --> 00:43:47,680
It starts on page 128 and

432
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:55,260
you will see there, they're relatively flat from this current fiscal year.

433
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:59,020
And that's because the big jump we made was in the current fiscal year with the additional

434
00:43:59,020 --> 00:44:07,940
of the force shift as well as the revenue that was introduced by the fire fee or the fire assessment that was added.

435
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:17,120
Any questions on fire?

436
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,020
Okay, our next department is Public Works.

437
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:30,200
The general fund portion of the Public Works Department starts on page 136,

438
00:44:37,860 --> 00:44:39,220
and they've got various divisions.

439
00:44:43,780 --> 00:44:48,020
You'll see it's relatively flat here as well.

440
00:44:48,020 --> 00:44:52,140
There's been some decreases, for instance, in the engineering division.

441
00:44:52,340 --> 00:44:57,860
It's actually a decrease from the current year budget by almost $100,000.

442
00:44:57,980 --> 00:44:59,980
But then you'll see you're corresponding in.

443
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,700
That was due to internal reorganization.

444
00:45:08,950 --> 00:45:15,670
But that team is pretty well loaded for all of the capital projects that are underway that they're managing.

445
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:35,100
And that's the good news to, when we talk about capital projects that, you know, as KVM mentioned, we usually spend about 20 million dollars in capital projects annually. And this next year, we're only proposing 12. But the good news is, we've got to

446
00:45:35,100 --> 00:45:44,700
We've got probably way more than $20 million in projects that are already underway in the current year that will transition over into the next year.

447
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:57,000
Two fire stations that we're constructing, the convention center that will be under construction here shortly, the air traffic control tower, the paving program that will continue to do.

448
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:01,400
So this is a number of projects that are underway at the Brilinski House is funded.

449
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:07,680
So we'll, even though those amounts are not reflected in next year's budget,

450
00:46:08,220 --> 00:46:10,740
that funding is already reflected in the current year budget.

451
00:46:10,980 --> 00:46:15,760
So we're not, we're not slowing down at all with regard to capital projects.

452
00:46:19,940 --> 00:46:22,440
Is there any questions on public works?

453
00:46:23,900 --> 00:46:27,400
And if not, we can go to page 151, which is parks and recreation.

454
00:46:37,990 --> 00:46:48,050
And again, with the general fund, Parks and Recreation has taken some hits, particularly in the parks division, and that's where we've got some positions frozen.

455
00:46:48,250 --> 00:47:05,970
We've eliminated some positions in the current year, and that, of course, is also the area where that has seen probably the biggest hit in regards to capital expenditures for the future, because with our projections, we just didn't see a sustainable way to fund a major,

456
00:47:05,970 --> 00:47:08,630
major project in the Lancaster Ranch construction.

457
00:47:09,290 --> 00:47:15,090
I did forward with you today the draft of the study that was done for the siding of the

458
00:47:15,090 --> 00:47:18,570
field house with that being a P3 partnership.

459
00:47:19,250 --> 00:47:23,490
It's a unique, we have a good opportunity there to have, perhaps, some of the, if you

460
00:47:23,490 --> 00:47:28,050
choose to locate it on Lancaster, we have an opportunity to fund some of the improvements

461
00:47:28,050 --> 00:47:30,230
for Lancaster through that public private partnership.

462
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:42,280
Is there any questions on Parks and Recreation that goes through to one page 171?

463
00:47:46,260 --> 00:47:51,920
And if not, our next department is Human Resources and that starts on page 172.

464
00:47:55,800 --> 00:48:01,880
And they're also very heavily weighted and expense-wise in personnel.

465
00:48:02,620 --> 00:48:05,840
And you'll see a reduction in their budget there as well.

466
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:05,940
Well,

467
00:48:10,750 --> 00:48:17,810
one of the, they've actually had two positions that were eliminated through the freeze this year.

468
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:25,140
So I have a question with regards to MHR.

469
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:31,500
That's where the determination of what the percentages for the raise for the next fiscal years decided.

470
00:48:32,020 --> 00:48:32,660
Am I correct?

471
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:36,160
We actually do that as a budget committee.

472
00:48:36,740 --> 00:48:42,360
It's part of the main, one of the main components we build into the budget and trying to balance.

473
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:48,000
And what we typically do is benchmark with other governments, i.e. our competitors and hiring.

474
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:56,540
And so, typically, as you're, I think you're aware, we do the four local governments in

475
00:48:57,760 --> 00:49:02,800
Osceola County as well as the three utilities to get together monthly and we meet.

476
00:49:03,500 --> 00:49:08,740
And we basically share notes and try to keep consistent with the raises we each give.

477
00:49:09,760 --> 00:49:17,600
I've always tried to beat them by a percent, if I can this year was tough to justify that but we're all in about the same fall park.

478
00:49:17,660 --> 00:49:29,120
I think the county in St. Cloud are at 3% the utilities, I believe are 3.5% before, so they're a little bit more, but they're a different market than we are in terms of the personnel market.

479
00:49:30,060 --> 00:49:34,420
And of course the school district is a completely different animal with regard to the workforce compensation.

480
00:49:35,100 --> 00:49:45,020
Here's what I'd like to see because I believe in reality this 3% raise technically speaking.

481
00:49:45,660 --> 00:49:46,940
They're not going to see this.

482
00:49:47,460 --> 00:49:48,960
It's so small.

483
00:49:49,580 --> 00:49:55,360
And I know that it has to be like that, but I think we can divert to another option.

484
00:49:55,880 --> 00:50:00,720
3% is probably what maybe over the course of a year, maybe next year.

485
00:50:00,720 --> 00:50:04,600
And I'm speaking hypothetically that might not be the exact figure.

486
00:50:04,860 --> 00:50:06,220
It may be an extra grand.

487
00:50:07,260 --> 00:50:08,580
It could be less than that.

488
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:09,380
It could be a little bit more.

489
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:13,920
Why not just give them a one-time payout and then freeze their salary.

490
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:17,300
At least they'll be able to see the one-time payout.

491
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:22,100
And we're in a situation right now and I'm talking about a country where people are really

492
00:50:22,100 --> 00:50:22,660
struggling.

493
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:29,160
And I think that could ease a burden if we did that as opposed to telling them we're giving

494
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:33,780
you a 3% raise and you're going to see what four bucks on in each pay period probably.

495
00:50:34,380 --> 00:50:36,240
Does that make sense commissioners?

496
00:50:37,820 --> 00:50:38,520
May I?

497
00:50:39,140 --> 00:50:41,260
Does that make sense?

498
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:52,900
I guess it just really depends, um, 3% of what, you know, everyone is different, you know,

499
00:50:52,900 --> 00:50:53,140
what I mean?

500
00:50:53,140 --> 00:50:55,580
So it's hard to just say like a flat dollar amount.

501
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:58,980
It just, it'll affect some more than others.

502
00:50:59,160 --> 00:50:59,480
Exactly.

503
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:02,560
So I don't know what the right answer is.

504
00:51:02,660 --> 00:51:04,040
I'll leave that to the experts, so.

505
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:09,420
The problem with doing the one time is once you give that raise

506
00:51:09,420 --> 00:51:11,840
for that fiscal year, the next year you're starting back

507
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,540
to where you were at the beginning of the fiscal year gave

508
00:51:14,540 --> 00:51:15,880
that $1,000 raise.

509
00:51:17,580 --> 00:51:23,760
And so the actual pay range doesn't go up.

510
00:51:24,720 --> 00:51:27,920
And so part of the problem we have if we were to do a one time,

511
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,320
And their pay range isn't going to go up.

512
00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:38,040
So now we have a compression problem because say you've been here a year, you've got a $1,000 increase.

513
00:51:39,020 --> 00:51:44,140
And then somebody gets hired, when you're towards the end of that year, a new person gets hired.

514
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:45,840
They're making the same exact as you are.

515
00:51:46,060 --> 00:51:50,000
And we have compression problem, particularly in the police department in that regard.

516
00:51:51,540 --> 00:51:51,960
And so-

517
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:53,680
I think you've had a compression issue in the past.

518
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:54,260
Yes.

519
00:51:54,660 --> 00:51:56,160
And so that's what I would caution.

520
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:59,500
and compression is an issue if we don't follow a trend.

521
00:52:00,020 --> 00:52:02,760
So that would be my biggest concern on that, but, you know,

522
00:52:02,980 --> 00:52:04,120
I guess that's the biggest concern.

523
00:52:05,140 --> 00:52:07,060
And so what we've done in the past

524
00:52:07,060 --> 00:52:09,680
when we've faced financial limitations,

525
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:12,820
if, say for instance, you were arguing, hey,

526
00:52:13,220 --> 00:52:14,940
3% isn't very much.

527
00:52:15,020 --> 00:52:18,800
Couldn't we do 4%, then what I would say to you

528
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:21,820
is with the uncertainty of the economy

529
00:52:21,820 --> 00:52:24,700
and the amendment 3 issue, I would say, well,

530
00:52:24,700 --> 00:52:31,500
How, maybe we could do a 3% and then do one-time bonus that is equivalent to an additional percent.

531
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:36,880
The school district does that, for instance, because it doesn't, once you give the percentages,

532
00:52:37,220 --> 00:52:40,220
we have to calculate that 3% for the next-

533
00:52:40,220 --> 00:52:41,680
That's a slippery slope, though.

534
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:43,320
You've got to be real careful with that.

535
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:50,780
I mean, it's a percentage, or, I mean, again, the commissioners can all have a different opinion,

536
00:52:50,860 --> 00:52:54,520
but I always worry about compression because I saw when the recession happened that-

537
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:58,160
And in a period of recession, compression is an issue.

538
00:52:58,860 --> 00:53:00,660
So I just, I look at it a little different.

539
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,900
I understand your point where $1,000 might benefit

540
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:08,560
a certain level of pay, but doesn't benefit other positions.

541
00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:10,720
It's just very, very tricky to do it that way.

542
00:53:10,940 --> 00:53:14,120
I mean, if you want it to do an analysis

543
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:16,460
and see how that would look at that,

544
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:18,500
perhaps that's a great way of looking at it.

545
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:23,440
But always bear in mind that compression can become an issue

546
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:25,680
as we journey, right?

547
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:27,120
Because today might not be an issue.

548
00:53:27,900 --> 00:53:31,120
20, 20, 8, 20, 30 might be an issue, so we're not around.

549
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:32,800
So it's just important to keep that in mind.

550
00:53:32,840 --> 00:53:35,860
And that's the issue we ran into during the Great Recession.

551
00:53:35,860 --> 00:53:37,760
It was five years we gave zero raises,

552
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,600
but we did give one-time bonuses in those years

553
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:43,520
to help people get by, and the problem we had

554
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:45,860
is exactly what the mayor's talking about.

555
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:47,680
We had significant compression issues,

556
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:50,940
and it took us a good decade to dig out of those compression

557
00:53:50,940 --> 00:53:51,500
issues.

558
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:58,740
And then we had to catch up with just the overall pay range issue we were having and it was hard to attract,

559
00:53:58,940 --> 00:54:03,420
particularly some of those higher demand positions, engineers, and the county.

560
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:07,220
New hires sometimes end up taking more money than the old hires, and we've seen that.

561
00:54:07,300 --> 00:54:11,920
We just felt brick and even at this point, so what am I understanding, but we'll take a look at.

562
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:18,400
Again, yeah, if you do an analysis, when we did the last budget workshop, sorry, Madam Mayor,

563
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:25,100
maybe recognize. When we did the last budget workshop, we talked about that there are possibilities

564
00:54:25,100 --> 00:54:31,560
that we have to, instead of cutting jobs, we would freeze the rates that they're at. I can't

565
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:37,800
remember if it was on the record or off the record, the conversation where we talk about what we

566
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:43,280
can do now that we're in a good position rather than to wait and then we can't actually do anything

567
00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:48,820
because we're in a situation where so that I think that analysis is a great idea to see what we

568
00:54:48,820 --> 00:54:53,140
can do since we're in a good position now for the staff. Yeah we'll do that. Thank you.

569
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:56,760
Any other questions on human resources?

570
00:54:59,790 --> 00:55:01,890
Yeah one of the things that always comes up and I hear

571
00:55:01,890 --> 00:55:10,470
other governments do this is and it does impact the raises and the impacts to the individuals

572
00:55:10,470 --> 00:55:17,490
particularly our lower paid employees is that a lot of other governments are now starting

573
00:55:17,490 --> 00:55:22,590
to charge their employees for a portion of their health care coverage, which we provide

574
00:55:22,590 --> 00:55:28,850
as a benefit free to the employee. Employee only has to pay for the dependence.

575
00:55:29,870 --> 00:55:35,530
And it's something that we've talked about very briefly, but came to the conclusion that

576
00:55:35,530 --> 00:55:47,090
When you do that, the criticism you hear and real impact you see is that it completely wipes away or for a large part wipes away whatever increase that you budgeted.

577
00:55:47,250 --> 00:55:54,470
So what's the point in doing that? But it's at some level if the amendment three passes and we face really difficult times in the future.

578
00:55:54,730 --> 00:56:00,180
It's something we may need to look at. Let's not something we're proposing at this point.

579
00:56:02,450 --> 00:56:04,890
Any other questions on human resources?

580
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:12,440
And our next department then is the airport, page 195 through 199.

581
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:19,120
And as the commission is aware, this is wholly funded by its revenues.

582
00:56:20,580 --> 00:56:25,700
And pound for pound, they're probably doing the most capital improvements out of any of

583
00:56:25,700 --> 00:56:26,180
the departments.

584
00:56:28,390 --> 00:56:33,550
And we're very excited that we're going to move forward with the tower trying to get for

585
00:56:33,550 --> 00:56:37,870
in almost two decades, and customs is also really proven.

586
00:56:38,150 --> 00:56:44,510
Just the announcement of customs has proven to be a major source of excitement

587
00:56:44,510 --> 00:56:48,130
for investors and different companies that are now looking at to

588
00:56:48,130 --> 00:56:51,750
semi-gateway airport as a real viable option for their businesses.

589
00:56:52,090 --> 00:56:53,750
So I think that's only going to help our colleagues.

590
00:56:53,810 --> 00:56:54,830
I agree, I agree.

591
00:56:57,860 --> 00:56:59,040
Any questions on airport?

592
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:02,480
Yes, I have a question.

593
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:10,320
We have a ground breaking on July, 2025, last year, for the higher studio hotel.

594
00:57:11,860 --> 00:57:15,740
That was supposed to be expected delivery this year, at the end of the year.

595
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:19,660
What is the status of the hotel right now?

596
00:57:20,220 --> 00:57:26,020
So, the last update that we got was they had hoped to be under construction this month,

597
00:57:26,420 --> 00:57:31,720
and that has not happened. I can call Sean up to see if he's got any further updates.

598
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:46,940
Mayor, commissioners, the last update I received from the group, they are in permitting.

599
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:52,920
They are working on a bigger project right now, they're looking at that whole MLK corridor.

600
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:59,120
They've been talking to another airport tenant there, which has the large aircraft simulators.

601
00:57:59,120 --> 00:58:04,880
They're interested in moving out of that hanger into their own facility and expanding those services.

602
00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:09,080
So they're in negotiations with them and with a financing group.

603
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:21,180
They're looking at over $116 million build-out project and so it's kind of delayed the hotel is what they've told me because they want to incorporate all that as one package.

604
00:58:21,560 --> 00:58:32,340
Now, I've encouraged them to concentrate on that hotel to keep moving forward making sure the permitting gets through so that when they're ready they can construct everything at one time.

605
00:58:32,340 --> 00:58:40,060
But I've also asked them then to give us what we consider an unsolicited proposal for that whole build out.

606
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:52,680
They're having these conversations, but I've asked them to bring that to the city to show us what that full package looks like in the progress of that so that we're confident that they're moving forward with those projects.

607
00:58:53,560 --> 00:59:01,280
That is a good answer, but let me ask you something, if we have any penalty they don't deliver

608
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:11,100
on time in the contract, because everything looks like a nice, good word, but we need a

609
00:59:12,060 --> 00:59:16,380
project to be finished ASP. We don't have time to be waiting.

610
00:59:16,380 --> 00:59:20,600
I have the finance, we have to move forward with something else.

611
00:59:21,360 --> 00:59:32,660
I understand, and that's the conversation that we had earlier this week with them is that they have to cure and perform on that because come June 1st of 2027.

612
00:59:33,420 --> 00:59:40,440
We have a minimum guaranteed revenue amount that they're going to start paying the airport, whether there's a hotel there or not.

613
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:44,060
And so they're on the hook to pay the bills because we're budgeting for it.

614
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:50,580
It is very important to accomplish with all the plans.

615
00:59:51,160 --> 00:59:53,760
You remember when we had the issue with the landing phase?

616
00:59:54,300 --> 00:59:58,500
Nothing was happening and now we have a revenue of 3.1 million.

617
00:59:58,860 --> 00:59:59,980
That is something like that.

618
01:00:00,180 --> 01:00:29,260
We've accomplished our work as a commissional because we work hard to get that approval. We have too many issues with pilots and everybody. But one question, it is possible in the future to increase a little bit. The landing fees as well. Yes, and actually we're looking at increasing the landing fees possibly from $3.75. This round in order to assist with some additional

619
01:00:30,060 --> 01:00:33,620
technology that we've had to put in place because of legislation that says we

620
01:00:33,620 --> 01:00:38,820
can't use the ADSB technology and aircraft. And so we've had to put in

621
01:00:38,820 --> 01:00:43,460
a camera system much similar to what we have in our toll roads to physically

622
01:00:43,460 --> 01:00:48,240
take pictures and get data in order to keep the revenue coming in. That

623
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:52,340
revenue is very important for us right now. We're really in a transitional

624
01:00:52,340 --> 01:00:56,520
period at the airport. We have a lot of property you know that we're aggressively

625
01:00:56,520 --> 01:01:02,220
developing it now with our economic development plan, but with these large projects like the tower,

626
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:10,680
$22 million tax-way renovation, customs, it's really important that we stay disciplined and keep

627
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:12,760
the revenue in place with those landing fees.

628
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:24,480
Another question I want to have for you, you received the email, the invitation from Mexico that

629
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:32,300
where the governor of Harisco and Guadalajara, the director of the airport, they want to make a

630
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:40,280
friendship with us, like a good relation. Do you have any

631
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:44,700
position on that? Are you planning to go or are you not going to go?

632
01:01:45,300 --> 01:01:51,400
I guess I don't know enough about that. That trip and with the out-of-state travel policy,

633
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:52,880
I'm a little concerned.

634
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:58,700
I think we need to know a little bit more about the trip and what the expectations are,

635
01:01:59,220 --> 01:02:03,600
what economic development trade off that are looking for.

636
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:09,380
We're just now announcing customs and so the customs facility won't be in place for

637
01:02:09,380 --> 01:02:09,960
a good year.

638
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:15,260
So to even accept flights from Mexico directly here is going to take some time.

639
01:02:15,500 --> 01:02:20,620
So I just need to understand a little more what this trip would all involve and what the,

640
01:02:20,620 --> 01:02:23,160
I guess the benefits and outcomes would be of that.

641
01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:26,120
And he was only invited to the Morelia,

642
01:02:26,700 --> 01:02:27,340
did I say it right?

643
01:02:27,940 --> 01:02:28,760
Yeah, Morelia.

644
01:02:29,140 --> 01:02:32,300
Yeah, Morelia, a portion of not the HALISCO,

645
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:33,500
a portion of it.

646
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:37,920
Because I do believe our airport has the potential

647
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:43,220
to increase the return up to much our accomplishments

648
01:02:43,220 --> 01:02:46,640
with everything, hotel, custom.

649
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:48,540
We had to move forward.

650
01:02:48,540 --> 01:02:54,680
We need money in the city. This is one of the opportunities. I heard that other countries

651
01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:56,240
that have interest as well.

652
01:03:00,180 --> 01:03:07,060
Thank you. Okay. But listen, I would like to have something

653
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:14,560
strong steady. Finally, with the project for the hotel, with the 122 rooms,

654
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:18,720
And they cannot afford a list for one with something else.

655
01:03:19,100 --> 01:03:20,260
I will convey that message.

656
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:26,260
Will they have to amend their lease in order to pursue that second portion of the project?

657
01:03:26,860 --> 01:03:29,280
No, I would like to treat it separately and separately.

658
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:34,660
And I think it makes more sense per parcel that we have a lease, like we have a lease for

659
01:03:34,660 --> 01:03:40,300
the hotel, if they do a training center, separate lease for that, separate lease for the next

660
01:03:40,300 --> 01:03:42,580
hotel student housing that they're looking at.

661
01:03:42,580 --> 01:03:49,580
That way in the future if you have for some reason, you know, the company wants to sell or do something differently

662
01:03:49,580 --> 01:03:53,080
They can it won't affect the whole the whole campus as as one

663
01:03:54,920 --> 01:04:00,180
Thank you. I do have a question on that. I mean it seems like they were going to build a hotel

664
01:04:00,980 --> 01:04:01,460
everything

665
01:04:02,100 --> 01:04:08,900
Just kind of froze and now the excuses that they're going to add more to this when they haven't even done part a

666
01:04:08,900 --> 01:04:12,800
I just feel that maybe that's something you should probably

667
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:18,940
make a dress and I mean I mean on you because honestly

668
01:04:18,940 --> 01:04:22,640
that you go from doing a groundbreaking to where we're going to start

669
01:04:23,220 --> 01:04:27,140
then let's not do groundbreakings that make us look like we're not doing the right thing

670
01:04:27,140 --> 01:04:30,820
it's embarrassing you know that is embarrassing to do a groundbreaking

671
01:04:30,820 --> 01:04:32,840
and everyone's excited we're shoveling dirt

672
01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:37,100
and now we're renegotiating or adding or

673
01:04:37,100 --> 01:04:38,680
or how did this happen?

674
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:40,760
I mean, the contract is the contract.

675
01:04:41,260 --> 01:04:42,320
And now you're gonna add,

676
01:04:42,820 --> 01:04:45,480
is that should it be treated as a separate contract,

677
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:48,560
or should it be treated as an addendum to this contract?

678
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:53,080
I mean, I'm not sure, but that project has been going on

679
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:56,820
way before I was a mayor, and it just seems like

680
01:04:57,380 --> 01:04:58,880
it's just gonna continue going on.

681
01:04:59,180 --> 01:05:01,420
And I mean, who's responsible for answers?

682
01:05:01,740 --> 01:05:05,100
They came, they submitted the same time,

683
01:05:05,100 --> 01:05:08,940
formally submitted the same time that Azure and Skyview did.

684
01:05:09,380 --> 01:05:12,480
And Azure's getting ready to go, Skyview

685
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:14,560
were in the final weeks of negotiation

686
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:17,120
and should be coming to you in September for approval.

687
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:20,120
And the personnel has changed.

688
01:05:20,220 --> 01:05:21,540
Juan Lopez is no longer there.

689
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:22,420
Is my understanding?

690
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:25,060
I'm sorry I didn't hear that possible.

691
01:05:25,260 --> 01:05:26,700
Their personnel has changed.

692
01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:28,940
Like the person that was always reaching out,

693
01:05:29,020 --> 01:05:31,180
he's not even with that company anymore.

694
01:05:31,260 --> 01:05:31,960
Not that it matters,

695
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:33,920
because I'm sure they've got some other personnel.

696
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:50,000
Now, you know, leading the way, but I just feel that if we had a contract to build one thing, and it continues getting pushed back and push back and we just keep allowing these changes, maybe that should be handled as a separate item all in itself, as you said.

697
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:58,600
I will. I made it very clear to them that we will not move forward with anything additional until we have some performance results with the first one.

698
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:00,920
I'm still dealing with the same people.

699
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:03,580
They've actually added a couple other people.

700
01:06:03,740 --> 01:06:07,960
They have a COO now who has a good business background.

701
01:06:08,500 --> 01:06:12,220
And I met with him last week and I said, this is the person that I need.

702
01:06:12,420 --> 01:06:17,120
A project manager, somebody who can start structuring this with the design team,

703
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:22,140
start having progress meetings and get this on track and start meeting some milestones.

704
01:06:23,620 --> 01:06:25,140
Madam Mayor, may I be recognized?

705
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:26,420
Sure, thank you.

706
01:06:28,220 --> 01:06:29,720
Mike, this question is for you.

707
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:30,920
Can we get them back in here?

708
01:06:31,940 --> 01:06:33,160
We couldn't, absolutely.

709
01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:34,560
Yeah, because I want to know what's going on.

710
01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:35,800
Yeah, we could do that.

711
01:06:35,860 --> 01:06:37,540
I miss the groundbreaking.

712
01:06:37,820 --> 01:06:38,260
Thank God.

713
01:06:39,300 --> 01:06:42,380
But, yeah, because I feel like the mayor said it's embarrassing.

714
01:06:42,800 --> 01:06:42,920
Yeah.

715
01:06:43,540 --> 01:06:44,820
I mean, everything else is moving.

716
01:06:45,900 --> 01:06:47,360
And I got to give credit to the mayor.

717
01:06:47,500 --> 01:06:48,940
This is day one that she got in here.

718
01:06:48,940 --> 01:06:51,240
We've been pushing, and I've been saying that behind closed doors

719
01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:52,100
and I'll say it in public.

720
01:06:52,900 --> 01:06:54,680
We've been pushing, we're getting things done.

721
01:06:54,680 --> 01:07:05,040
And now we're playing procrastination, so I would like to see as soon as possible since they already have all this already basically concrete we would like to know what's going on as well.

722
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:20,760
They can come back in here with some little billboards and stuff like the first time shows what it is that they're planning to do and also explain where we are with the projects that we have at hand that we have a contract that there's groundbreaking that there's construction that should have started by now.

723
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:25,860
So I kind of get a feeling I can't speak for all the board but based on the filling that I'm getting up here

724
01:07:25,860 --> 01:07:31,080
You know, we want answers and the sooner we can get them in here the better so we can have those we can do that

725
01:07:31,080 --> 01:07:36,840
And we can schedule a discussion item to bring them in here have them do a presentation to you as with an update and

726
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:39,980
Give you an opportunity to ask questions on their progress and

727
01:07:40,780 --> 01:07:47,260
I think that'd be reasonable. I know from the beginning that project is going to fail with that group

728
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:50,500
Yeah, it's full faith. It's going to fail. I know that

729
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:58,120
Well, that's why I never both for them to deliver the product here in Monument what I want to avoid part of me is

730
01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:04,160
I don't want to do this one-on-one with these developers. I'd rather have them come here and speak to all of us

731
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:08,960
I don't I didn't meet with the zoo because I don't want to meet one-on-one with them because

732
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:15,000
So much has said I'd much rather have it right here in front of everyone if anyone else questions

733
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:17,740
It should be asked right here as opposed to five different meetings.

734
01:08:18,720 --> 01:08:23,700
When you present on the record, it's usually more accurate statements are made.

735
01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:27,080
Yeah, there's now five different stories being told to this commissioner.

736
01:08:27,400 --> 01:08:27,960
Yeah, I agree.

737
01:08:28,780 --> 01:08:31,640
All right, so I guess that was our soapbox for that development.

738
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:32,380
So thank you.

739
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:33,760
Okay, we'll get it scheduled.

740
01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:35,380
Thank you.

741
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:36,120
Thank you.

742
01:08:36,160 --> 01:08:36,420
Thank you.

743
01:08:36,820 --> 01:08:37,360
Say a message.

744
01:08:37,660 --> 01:08:39,320
Don't play with our welcome assignment.

745
01:08:42,160 --> 01:08:45,580
Okay, the last, is there any other questions on the airport?

746
01:08:45,580 --> 01:08:49,600
Now we're good. The smallest budget got the most questions.

747
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:54,900
All but mighty. Yeah. All right, so that's the biggest economic impact I guess.

748
01:08:55,760 --> 01:09:02,060
The last department is Central Services Fund is the information technology

749
01:09:02,060 --> 01:09:03,960
department that begins on page 201.

750
01:09:08,750 --> 01:09:13,090
There you can see their proposed budget is just

751
01:09:13,090 --> 01:09:16,230
moderately higher than last year or the current year. I'm sorry.

752
01:09:21,590 --> 01:09:22,310
There's no

753
01:09:22,310 --> 01:09:30,130
questions on information technology, then we can move on to the next segment of the agenda, which is Section 5, which is general discussion.

754
01:09:33,310 --> 01:09:49,090
And as I mentioned earlier, we programmed in the modest 1.5, I'm sorry, not 1.5, $150,000 decrease in the non-profit, I know, which it was 1.5, we don't give that much money out.

755
01:09:49,090 --> 01:10:13,470
About a modest $150,000 decrease in nonprofit funding, which basically between economic development funds approximately $260,000 worth of external agencies, the commission funds approximately $400,000 in external entities.

756
01:10:13,470 --> 01:10:17,050
And so you're talking about $650,000 and total.

757
01:10:17,950 --> 01:10:26,770
And that doesn't not include, as we talked about a little earlier, as well, OLA, which is an additional 30, or 40,000 is what we have in the budget.

758
01:10:28,390 --> 01:10:34,290
So what I'd like to do, Commissioner, is unless you have specific feedback tonight, is just give you,

759
01:10:34,450 --> 01:10:36,850
I should have done this earlier so you can look at it.

760
01:10:36,850 --> 01:10:38,990
is give you copies of,

761
01:10:41,170 --> 01:10:41,970
you know,

762
01:10:42,150 --> 01:10:45,260
so you can see you can take a look

763
01:10:45,260 --> 01:10:46,900
and then what will we use to come back?

764
01:10:47,700 --> 01:10:49,460
The schedule for the discussion.

765
01:10:49,740 --> 01:10:51,420
I am on a computer mission agenda

766
01:10:51,420 --> 01:10:52,880
and that

767
01:10:55,690 --> 01:10:59,110
will be able to come in

768
01:10:59,110 --> 01:11:02,270
and please note transition house,

769
01:11:02,810 --> 01:11:03,950
home partnership,

770
01:11:04,650 --> 01:11:07,190
and church and community assistance program.

771
01:11:07,890 --> 01:11:09,790
None of them have claimed their funding.

772
01:11:10,110 --> 01:11:12,590
So at least $55,000 of that budget,

773
01:11:12,590 --> 01:11:14,790
that has not been expended.

774
01:11:15,230 --> 01:11:15,730
Well, thank you.

775
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:25,510
Transition House, 15,000 CCAP, which is 15,000,

776
01:11:25,730 --> 01:11:28,050
and that's higher up on the list.

777
01:11:29,530 --> 01:11:31,570
Our church and community assistance program.

778
01:11:32,110 --> 01:11:34,250
And then just above that is hope partnership.

779
01:11:34,890 --> 01:11:36,430
They did not claim their funding either.

780
01:11:36,730 --> 01:11:38,410
Matter of fact, I think they told Desiree

781
01:11:38,410 --> 01:11:40,290
that we're not intending to utilize our funding.

782
01:11:40,930 --> 01:11:42,350
The second sheet I'm going to hand you

783
01:11:42,350 --> 01:11:48,670
He was the funding that is budgeted, economic development department for external business

784
01:11:48,670 --> 01:11:54,150
assistance programs, sponsorships that we do for callas and things like that.

785
01:11:54,290 --> 01:12:00,630
And so, that funding is also something we can look at.

786
01:12:00,830 --> 01:12:06,410
I do have our goal is to put together an agenda item to talk about that under discussion,

787
01:12:06,710 --> 01:12:11,910
a commission meeting because we do have cost benefit analysis that was done by economic

788
01:12:11,910 --> 01:12:17,190
development, particularly on the business assistance programs that shows a rate of return that we get

789
01:12:17,810 --> 01:12:23,190
for funding some of the business assistance programs. For instance, the Small Business Development

790
01:12:23,190 --> 01:12:31,350
Center at 30,000 in Prospera at 20,000 give us some of the biggest bang for our buck in terms of

791
01:12:31,350 --> 01:12:36,570
the amount that we fund versus the number of businesses that they assist each and every year

792
01:12:36,570 --> 01:12:48,950
while you see a think-a-bater, which does have a more comprehensive program A to Z to get a business started is the least at 150,000.

793
01:12:49,030 --> 01:12:52,810
I think they have 11 businesses in there now that they're starting up.

794
01:12:53,010 --> 01:12:59,250
So just for thought unless the commission has any specific direction you'd like to provide tonight, we'd be glad to.

795
01:13:01,230 --> 01:13:04,430
I don't see the NAACP event on here.

796
01:13:07,130 --> 01:13:10,850
That is funded through, I think, the commission budget.

797
01:13:12,410 --> 01:13:17,110
So it's, I haven't given you guys any of your funding.

798
01:13:17,990 --> 01:13:19,450
We've kept all of your funding the same.

799
01:13:19,590 --> 01:13:25,210
I haven't proposed any cuts to the commission funding, other than the OCEO legislative effort

800
01:13:25,810 --> 01:13:28,930
based on our prior discussion at the prior workshops.

801
01:13:28,930 --> 01:13:30,530
So that's in our budget?

802
01:13:30,870 --> 01:13:31,550
That's in your budget.

803
01:13:31,810 --> 01:13:34,330
So how many events is in our budget then?

804
01:13:37,410 --> 01:13:38,250
Quite a bit.

805
01:13:38,550 --> 01:13:39,390
We can go back to.

806
01:13:46,940 --> 01:13:48,800
And just to let you guys know,

807
01:13:49,580 --> 01:13:52,060
Desiree cannot be here tonight due to a family emergency.

808
01:13:53,740 --> 01:13:55,500
But she was going to handle this.

809
01:13:56,260 --> 01:13:58,340
Maybe a little flat footer down there.

810
01:14:01,250 --> 01:14:02,690
But let's see.

811
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:46,900
Okay, and memberships of $77,000, so what we could do is we could break out the commission line items under the do's and subscriptions, and the special functions, and I think other contract services may also have some some line items in there that the commission can look at as well if you want to consider that funding.

812
01:14:48,470 --> 01:14:56,460
Madam Mayor of every recognize please thank you so I have don't want to make

813
01:14:56,460 --> 01:14:58,460
that noise when you just push it

814
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:28,760
I still feel like before we make any determination, I know we're coming back with the social services funding. I still think there is a lot of value in allowing this organizations to come and give a short presentation so that way we can kind of see which services are duplicated, who can partner with who, instead of us making a decision without allowing that process. I know we spoke about it in the past, but do you think that's something that we can still do?

815
01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:37,040
And we can, actually, I'm remiss in probably the biggest point that Desiree wanted me to make sure to make today.

816
01:15:37,260 --> 01:15:43,700
And that was, do you all want to go back to opening up the process like we have in years past?

817
01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:57,860
Or do you want to replicate what we did this current fiscal year, which was basically direct all the funding that's in here that's already been budgeted to these individual agencies to be handled through the haven?

818
01:15:57,860 --> 01:16:03,100
But because that's what you all decided last year and you gave deserated discretion to

819
01:16:03,100 --> 01:16:07,460
work with these entities and try to tie them into the services that we provide through

820
01:16:07,460 --> 01:16:07,840
the Haven.

821
01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:13,360
And that may be why some of these entities decided not to pursue funding.

822
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:19,800
That's exactly what my train thought was because our baby right now is the Haven on Vine.

823
01:16:20,620 --> 01:16:26,140
And we provide basically a wraparound services from employment to education, whatever it is

824
01:16:26,140 --> 01:16:27,560
that they need, we have it all there.

825
01:16:28,260 --> 01:16:30,020
So at least if we fund agencies,

826
01:16:30,300 --> 01:16:32,740
we can fund agencies that are directly involved

827
01:16:32,740 --> 01:16:34,840
and that they can help, you know,

828
01:16:34,940 --> 01:16:38,280
our constituents that are living inside haven on vine,

829
01:16:38,500 --> 01:16:40,940
but also the surrounding, you know,

830
01:16:41,080 --> 01:16:42,460
the city, other people as well.

831
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:45,140
So that's why I was trying to figure out which one is which

832
01:16:45,140 --> 01:16:48,640
to see what resources we can actually allocate

833
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:50,440
that are gonna continue as well,

834
01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:52,700
helping our haven on vine.

835
01:16:55,100 --> 01:17:02,260
What we could do is schedule, as we're planning to do this anyway, is with our discussion item,

836
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:07,980
give you a little bit more detail as to how we would integrate these services into the Haven

837
01:17:07,980 --> 01:17:14,080
on Byne. And we can come up with a game plan for giving the organizations an opportunity to come

838
01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:17,920
before the board. And we can do a workshop of some sort even if we needed to.

839
01:17:20,220 --> 01:17:28,040
Okay. The essential for the hotel larger association and you event. We buy tables for that.

840
01:17:31,930 --> 01:17:35,850
We budget for it. I'm not sure if we have in recent past.

841
01:17:36,050 --> 01:17:42,290
I see that. David, do you have a minute to come up or the ability to address those questions?

842
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:53,080
It's budgeted, not always. Not always are purchased as far as tables. Sometimes it's individual

843
01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:54,960
will take it, but it's budgeted.

844
01:17:55,300 --> 01:17:59,900
Okay, but I've never even seen that line item on a budget.

845
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:01,520
Is there something new is what I'm asking.

846
01:18:03,740 --> 01:18:05,840
Yeah, this is funding that you also had in the budget

847
01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:06,480
this current year.

848
01:18:07,020 --> 01:18:09,240
Yes, it's in bulk.

849
01:18:09,900 --> 01:18:11,120
It's in a line item.

850
01:18:11,500 --> 01:18:14,740
It's in a line item like for table events and stuff like that.

851
01:18:15,080 --> 01:18:19,160
That's like the what is it like $38,000 or something like that?

852
01:18:19,560 --> 01:18:21,040
That is allocated for that funding.

853
01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:23,720
Yes, it's in special functions.

854
01:18:24,810 --> 01:18:29,460
The line item should be here for those particular events.

855
01:18:33,300 --> 01:18:33,740
Okay.

856
01:18:34,220 --> 01:18:39,040
And I also don't see one here for the Caribbean Association.

857
01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:42,540
That also would be in the commission's line items.

858
01:18:44,020 --> 01:18:46,620
Because these completely confuse what.

859
01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:48,420
It's all in a pot.

860
01:18:48,660 --> 01:18:49,460
It's like in one pot.

861
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:52,260
Instead of every single name showing up or something.

862
01:18:53,880 --> 01:19:21,220
So the difference is, is city commission, the entities that are funded in the city commission are different than the entities that are funded in economic development, the only entities that are funded in economic development are those entities that are chambers of commerce, are business associations, or those types, anything to do with business economic growth, that sort of thing, whereas what's in the commission budget is more civic groups, community organizations, those types of things.

863
01:19:21,220 --> 01:19:21,320
Thanks.

864
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:21,940
Okay.

865
01:19:27,380 --> 01:19:28,120
Thank you.

866
01:19:34,890 --> 01:19:36,210
Any other questions, commissioners?

867
01:19:36,450 --> 01:19:42,870
So what we'll do with regard to the nonprofit funding is at one of the meetings in September

868
01:19:42,870 --> 01:19:49,630
or possibly one of the first meetings after the new budget is in place, in October, although

869
01:19:49,630 --> 01:19:54,910
I think we'd like to try to do it earlier just so I can get to that $150,000 cut number

870
01:19:54,910 --> 01:19:57,530
or is at least do the economic development ones

871
01:19:57,530 --> 01:20:02,590
in September, and then we can come to you

872
01:20:02,590 --> 01:20:05,170
either in September or in October for the social services

873
01:20:05,170 --> 01:20:07,230
discussion, because that'll probably take

874
01:20:07,230 --> 01:20:09,290
a little more time to get the outside groups in here anyway.

875
01:20:12,020 --> 01:20:12,180
Okay.

876
01:20:13,380 --> 01:20:14,840
Any other questions or thoughts?

877
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:16,340
And of course, as you have this paperwork

878
01:20:16,340 --> 01:20:18,580
in your possession, if you have any follow-up questions,

879
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:22,500
feel free to call me or David or whoever.

880
01:20:22,500 --> 01:20:33,060
I have a question for Mr. Rodriguez, too many people approached me like they are receiving

881
01:20:33,060 --> 01:20:38,920
a survey where they had to explain how they spend the money for the food program.

882
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:46,060
No one knows, everybody is confused, that is something like it's going to be any penalty,

883
01:20:46,060 --> 01:21:01,080
they don't answer, that's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's gonna be some, some

884
01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:06,200
penalties or anything. No one knows about that. That is something never was written to

885
01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:11,640
the Commission. No one knows about that. So, do you have an explanation for that?

886
01:21:11,640 --> 01:21:25,600
But that is part of closing the program and the guidelines for the source of the funding for this grants require the city to report back and to gather information on how funds were used.

887
01:21:26,300 --> 01:21:41,480
At this time, grant recipients are not being required to provide documentation is just to answer how funds were used and what the impact was in their businesses, which is something that the federal government expects us to report.

888
01:21:42,060 --> 01:21:48,780
So, in essence, it's more of a survey than it is, and it is a provision of documentation.

889
01:21:49,420 --> 01:21:49,860
Exactly.

890
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:57,420
I do believe like, we have to be more clear with the constituents who received that money.

891
01:21:58,080 --> 01:22:02,120
I let her know because some people they are afraid, some of them they are thinking, well,

892
01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:06,440
you guys run me that money while you had to give the next presentation while you give me

893
01:22:06,440 --> 01:22:06,780
already.

894
01:22:08,500 --> 01:22:20,080
So many have responded and has provided the certifications and the information so I think if we did advise survey monkey or something that would have been a little friendly.

895
01:22:21,040 --> 01:22:29,060
But we did have to put there was a line in there that we had to put from the federal guidelines that seemed a little threatening because it did say under the guidelines.

896
01:22:29,060 --> 01:22:36,800
We could take the money back if you don't respond and the way I understand it from Desiree's research, it's not mandatory that everybody respond.

897
01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:44,840
That's true, but I do believe that is something that was supposed to let us know from the beginning before they apply for the grant.

898
01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:54,700
Yeah, and that's something that with this grant program, you know, it's something that we did not anticipate needing to do until we got into it.

899
01:22:55,480 --> 01:23:05,520
But I think this attempt is basically to try to gather as much information as we can post awards so that we can report back as reasonably as we can to the federal government.

900
01:23:05,520 --> 01:23:13,440
Thank you. Is there a deadline that they have to submit the information back to you? Is there a deadline?

901
01:23:14,260 --> 01:23:23,460
We don't have a deadline to report, but there was a deadline provided to the grant recipients of the 24th.

902
01:23:23,940 --> 01:23:30,340
It can be extended. It's not that we have a hard deadline, but we have to administer a deadline, at least, you know, give some reasonable time.

903
01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:40,580
And there are other questions on nonprofit funding, economic development.

904
01:23:44,230 --> 01:23:50,830
The next topic point under Section 5 that I wanted to ask the commission for feedback on is regarding travel and training.

905
01:23:52,770 --> 01:24:01,290
Citywide, we've instituted a out-of-state travel ban for the departments with exceptions for issues that are critical in nature,

906
01:24:01,290 --> 01:24:06,650
IE, the police department has specialized training that they have to do that may only be offered out of state.

907
01:24:08,510 --> 01:24:11,110
And so we do have the exception in place.

908
01:24:11,370 --> 01:24:19,210
What I wasn't sure, because I am starting to get requests from the commissioners, is the whether or not the commission intends to do an out of state travel ban?

909
01:24:19,310 --> 01:24:30,090
Or do you want to make exceptions for certain types of trainings that are aligned and imbudgeted as well as maybe economic development trips or just not have a travel ban for the commission outside of the state?

910
01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:59,920
I don't have an issue with the out of state travel for the commissioners, but I think that every item should be brought to the board so that we can evaluate and make sure that it is something that is going to benefit the city and if it's something that's going to benefit the city and we all agree it upon, I wouldn't see an issue with it.

911
01:24:59,920 --> 01:25:01,980
But it has to be, you know,

912
01:25:04,380 --> 01:25:10,160
a good trip, something that's worth it, something that's going to bring business back.

913
01:25:10,480 --> 01:25:12,200
Not the should have could have would have.

914
01:25:13,740 --> 01:25:20,980
So I don't think it should be banned completely because there are trainings and other things like the Florida League of Cities, the National Florida League of Cities,

915
01:25:22,740 --> 01:25:25,260
that some of the commissioners might be able to

916
01:25:28,430 --> 01:25:32,350
attend and these are courses and things that

917
01:25:32,350 --> 01:25:38,070
help us gather information and also educate ourselves on our new things that other cities are

918
01:25:38,070 --> 01:25:43,630
doing that are implemented and are working for them and they can help us when we go around to do

919
01:25:43,630 --> 01:25:48,150
our priorities for the year. Thank you.

920
01:25:52,290 --> 01:25:56,890
We have budgeted for the same travel as you all had budget

921
01:25:56,890 --> 01:26:01,290
in the current fiscal year, so that really doesn't matter.

922
01:26:02,350 --> 01:26:07,670
As a matter of fact, I think your year today is only about half of what we budgeted for travel.

923
01:26:08,570 --> 01:26:10,530
That's a budget at $38,000.

924
01:26:10,830 --> 01:26:13,110
I'm sorry, you just spent $17, maybe.

925
01:26:17,330 --> 01:26:17,650
Okay.

926
01:26:19,550 --> 01:26:21,750
Any other questions on that or a direction on that?

927
01:26:22,330 --> 01:26:29,410
We'll keep it status quo, which means the policy is well unless there's any changes in that directed

928
01:26:29,410 --> 01:26:36,230
by the commission. The last item on the agenda is the limited

929
01:26:36,230 --> 01:26:41,110
hiring freeze and again this is just a recap because I know there was a lot of

930
01:26:41,110 --> 01:26:46,610
concernation about the game plan that we had discussed at the earlier workshops

931
01:26:47,790 --> 01:26:52,230
particularly I think there was some I don't want to say confusion but just

932
01:26:52,230 --> 01:26:56,970
concerned that there might be layoffs and that is not something we are

933
01:26:56,970 --> 01:27:01,790
proposing for this upcoming fiscal year in order to balance the budget.

934
01:27:02,570 --> 01:27:09,570
Our goal at this point is to carry forward the hiring freeze that we have in place,

935
01:27:09,570 --> 01:27:13,310
that hiring freeze is not absolute.

936
01:27:13,710 --> 01:27:17,790
It does give us the ability to make exceptions, particularly for

937
01:27:17,790 --> 01:27:25,390
frontline public safety employees, as well as critical positions in each of the departments that are necessary to carry out tasks.

938
01:27:25,390 --> 01:27:31,850
And as, for instance, you know, we might only have one arborist in parks and recreation

939
01:27:31,850 --> 01:27:39,970
or we might only have two herbicide specialists or one or two traffic signal texts in traffic.

940
01:27:40,670 --> 01:27:45,370
And so in those situations, we can't freeze positions when we only have one or two people

941
01:27:45,370 --> 01:27:46,210
in those positions.

942
01:27:46,530 --> 01:27:54,190
And so the goal is to try to get to, we had penciled into the budget of $1.5 million cut

943
01:27:54,190 --> 01:28:01,110
but in personnel costs and the goal is the defrease as many non-essential positions as we

944
01:28:01,110 --> 01:28:03,770
can throughout the fiscal year to get to that magic number.

945
01:28:04,810 --> 01:28:08,210
Of course, if amendment three passes, we're going to have to have a whole new discussion

946
01:28:08,210 --> 01:28:14,750
on how we balance the budget going forward and that's going to take a very, very long and

947
01:28:14,750 --> 01:28:15,430
hard discussion.

948
01:28:15,430 --> 01:28:30,790
But, you know, we're going to be putting together an inter-departmental committee to look at various positions, look at ways that we can recommend efficiencies within the different departments.

949
01:28:31,290 --> 01:28:39,090
I'll give you an example of an effort that's already underway. The public works department has traditionally handled what's called the downtown clean team.

950
01:28:39,090 --> 01:28:44,970
Parks and Recreation has their maintenance folks have handled landscape

951
01:28:44,970 --> 01:28:51,130
maintenance for not just Lakefront Park, but all of the city landscape streets

952
01:28:51,130 --> 01:28:54,570
between the railroad tracks and the Lakefront Park.

953
01:28:55,410 --> 01:29:00,030
And so why do we have two different departments, two different crews with two different sets

954
01:29:00,030 --> 01:29:03,950
of equipment managing areas that are adjacent to each other.

955
01:29:04,110 --> 01:29:07,810
And so the inner departmental effort between public works and parks and

956
01:29:07,810 --> 01:29:14,590
recreation has been to combine that team into one, let parks take it over, that frees

957
01:29:14,590 --> 01:29:19,630
up some folks to go over to public works to bolster other areas that are shorthanded

958
01:29:19,630 --> 01:29:27,690
in, which allows us to essentially get the same amount of work or more work out of essentially

959
01:29:27,690 --> 01:29:29,290
less people, and that's the goal.

960
01:29:30,130 --> 01:29:33,470
So those are the types of things we're going to be looking at over the next month or so.

961
01:29:33,470 --> 01:29:39,690
So, if we hit any point at which we feel like we might need to do some reorganizations

962
01:29:39,690 --> 01:29:45,690
to make efficiency improvements, i.e., meaning transferring people to different positions,

963
01:29:46,230 --> 01:29:50,130
we'll certainly bring that back to the commission as it would require an amendment to the budget.

964
01:29:51,430 --> 01:29:56,030
But at this time, our goal is hiring freeze and hopefully that gets us to where we need to go.

965
01:29:57,750 --> 01:29:59,810
Any questions or comments from the Commissioner?

966
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:09,180
I would like to see a list of all vacant positions at the city, with the position control number,

967
01:30:09,500 --> 01:30:19,360
position, title, total $1 a month for salaries and benefit that we can put in hold. List of those

968
01:30:19,360 --> 01:30:25,880
positions, those vacant positions. We can provide that and

969
01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:32,520
also break it out by funds as

970
01:30:32,520 --> 01:31:01,580
as well because the positions that are in non-general fund departments are not positions we necessarily have to freeze because really the general fund is the only fund that we're concerned about and so it's primarily, I'll give you an example we have 51 full time positions that are currently vacant and of those 51 I think about half will little more than half for general fund positions.

971
01:31:01,580 --> 01:31:14,800
And so those are positions that would be subject to the freeze less those critical positions that know I've already given approval to the departments to fill so we'll provide that information to you.

972
01:31:15,040 --> 01:31:15,380
Thank you.

973
01:31:17,960 --> 01:31:20,980
Any other questions or comments from the commissioners?

974
01:31:23,550 --> 01:31:24,190
I don't think so.

975
01:31:24,630 --> 01:31:26,470
Thank you Madam Mayor and commissioners.

976
01:31:26,470 --> 01:31:28,170
We appreciate your feedback today.

977
01:31:28,330 --> 01:31:37,590
I think this has been very productive, and we look forward to coming back at the hearings on Wednesday to September 9th.

978
01:31:37,650 --> 01:31:42,070
And Tuesday, September 22 will be our two budget hearings.

979
01:31:42,950 --> 01:31:51,970
And under the new state law, we need four of the five commissioners present to vote, yes, for the current military.

980
01:31:51,970 --> 01:31:57,030
because even keeping the current military requires a four-fist vote under the new state statute.

981
01:31:57,290 --> 01:32:00,450
So do we make a motion to approve the current military, or is it just?

982
01:32:00,770 --> 01:32:04,150
You did that at the last workshop, so we don't need any action tonight.

983
01:32:04,330 --> 01:32:05,850
Okay, all righty, well thank you.

984
01:32:06,250 --> 01:32:09,590
I will call our motion to adjourn this meeting.

985
01:32:09,930 --> 01:32:11,050
Motion to adjourn.

986
01:32:11,050 --> 01:32:12,910
Second, thank you, all the federal members.

987
01:32:12,910 --> 01:32:13,610
Thank you, commissioners.

988
01:32:13,870 --> 01:32:14,470
Thank you, everybody.

989
01:32:14,890 --> 01:32:15,210
Thank you.