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Good morning everyone. Uh 8:31. We might

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as well get the uh meeting on the way

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here. Uh agenda.

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Any additions to the agenda?

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» Councelor Woodstock. Uh I would like to

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add council and committee under council

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and committee reports uh report on egg

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service board convention.

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» Anything else?

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» Councelor Hopkins. I move to approve the

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agenda

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uh on for Tuesday, January 27th with the

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addition.

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>> Any uh

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» Any uh

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discussion?

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All in favor?

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Carried.

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Regular council meeting minutes. Any

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omissions or or uh

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corrections?

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or errors.

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» I'll move that council approves the

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adoption of the minutes of January the

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13th, 2026 regular meeting of council as

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presented.

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>> Any uh discussion on the motion?

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» Any uh discussion on the motion?

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All in favor?

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Carried.

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Okay.

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» Appointments are at 1:00. Uh

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corporate services

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I guess 4.1 the budget.

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okay. Uh any discussion on this prior to

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getting going?

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Councelor Olsson.

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>> So this is this is just a proposed

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» So this is this is just a proposed

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budget again for uh 2026.

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So what's different from the proposed

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budget from that we had in November or

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December

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>> through the chair. The budget that was

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» through the chair. The budget that was

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approved in December was an interim

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budget. So it was just for the period

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between January and April. This is now

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the proposed 2026 budget that would

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actually cover the full 2026 year.

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>> Okay. Um, like I said before, I don't

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» Okay. Um, like I said before, I don't

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want anybody to take anything personally

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when we start asking questions here, but

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prior to this at the last intern budget,

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we discussed that we're going to be

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going into line item budgeting. So

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I hope this isn't going down that same

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road where this budget is proposed and

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at the very last minute then we have to

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discuss we have to discuss whether at

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you know whether it's approved or not.

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There's one of the one of the reasons

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that I'm saying this is this is the only

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thing that we have left right now where

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we can control anything that's

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happening. We don't have a strategic

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plan available to us right now. We don't

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have a governance model in front of us

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right now. So this is the only thing

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that we can control.

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So we want to make sure that it's done

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properly and there's some stuff that

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needs that we have to set. We as council

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will set the budget. The way I see it

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and I'm not I'm harping on this and

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harping on this. You heard it before.

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We set the budget. Council the way this

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is proposed.

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The administration and staff have set

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this budget.

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That being said, that being said, any

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questions? Any other discussion on that?

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I know. I'm just looking here.

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>> No bizarre.

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» No bizarre.

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>> Yep. CEO Cochran.

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» Yep. CEO Cochran.

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>> Yeah. Through the brief told of council,

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» Yeah. Through the brief told of council,

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we're not here to tell council what to

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do. We're here to propose a budget based

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on what it costs to do our operations

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and our current SE service levels that

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we provide to the public. This is a

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document for your debate. You're

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welcome. This is for you to dig into.

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Today is an education on what's in the

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budget. We have plenty of more meetings

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to come to where you'll be able to bring

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all of your questions, your sorry, your

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concerns. This isn't uh one and done

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today. This is an introduction to what

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it costs to do our current business the

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way we do it. And this is up to council

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to debate, decide, and direct as we move

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forward. We're not directing council.

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We're proposing based on what it takes

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to do our business.

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>> That's that's correct. Um that being

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» That's that's correct. Um that being

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said, thank you. That being said, uh I I

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do believe that when we go into these

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next we should have be set in uh

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different meetings,

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separate meetings. So we're not

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discussing uh budgets in front of in in

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in council. These budgets have should be

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separate meetings. In fact, the reason

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for it is because if we do do some cuts,

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we don't want we don't need people in

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there that uh

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get disappointed or or

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what's the word I'm looking for.

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I'm pretty sure everybody understands

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where I'm coming from. Councelor Olsson.

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>> Yeah. And just to clarify, when does

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» Yeah. And just to clarify, when does

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this budget have to be approved? What is

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the date?

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>> Uh through the chair. So the interim

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» Uh through the chair. So the interim

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budget applies through to April 30th. Um

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we do need to have a full budget adopted

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in order to pass the tax rate bylaw

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which also needs to happen in April as

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well in order to facilitate distributing

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tax notices and in accordance with our

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current bylaws and policies.

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>> So that being said is that so at the end

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» So that being said is that so at the end

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of April it has to be completed by the

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end of April.

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>> That is correct.

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» CEO Cochran

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Uh, councelor Woodstock.

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>> So, the province will provide us

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» So, the province will provide us

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assessment numbers in first part of

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>> Okay. Thank you.

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» Okay. Thank you.

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>> Councelor Cochran or Wait a minute. CEO

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» Councelor Cochran or Wait a minute. CEO

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CEO Cochran.

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>> Thank you. Through the Reef Hall of

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» Thank you. Through the Reef Hall of

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Council, um, if there's sensitive items

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that you want to discuss in the budget,

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we would go into camera. So this is an

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open budget for presentation both to

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council and to the public based on what

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we're proposing to council. If there's

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items you want to discuss that you feel

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are sensitive, we go into camera and you

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come out with a motion if you have one.

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>> Is there any particular reason we have

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» Is there any particular reason we have

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to go into camera? Why can't we have a

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separate budget meeting?

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» Councelor Cunningham.

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>> I just from conversations I think it was

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» I just from conversations I think it was

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last term there was discussion about

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that. I know some municipalities will

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take like two days and strictly have

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them budget, but that's nothing, you

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know, that we confirmed last term. So, I

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mean, I think it's something if this

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council wants to pursue, we could

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certainly look at it because I know we

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have had days where we have lots of

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other stuff on the on the agenda and it

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does kind of cloud the day. So, I mean,

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having two days specifically for budget

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is something that this council could

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could look at and administration.

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>> I I do believe once you get Thank you. I

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» I I do believe once you get Thank you. I

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do believe once you're getting into uh

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line budgeting and stuff like that, what

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we're looking for there is going to be

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some sensitive issues because once we do

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some talking and and stuff like that, it

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is it is going to affect some people.

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that should be done in council and we

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should be going into uh close session

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all the time. We're getting taken to

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task on going into close session uh by

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the public as as it is now. So, I mean,

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if we can set two days aside or whatever

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we need for the budget, I think that's

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the way to go.

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>> Councelor Cunning or Councelor Hoppins.

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» Councelor Cunning or Councelor Hoppins.

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>> Thank you, Reeve. Uh, for myself, I was

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» Thank you, Reeve. Uh, for myself, I was

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actually a little disappointed that I

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didn't get to see um actual

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what was spent last year in each

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department. Um, for me that helps me

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make an informed decision as to if that

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number is in the right location. Um,

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it helps us improve financial control,

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helps us make informed decisions and

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going forward, I would like to see

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actual so we know where so I know where

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we're at. Um, and that

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helps me also. I feel there's some

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departments that might need an increase

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and there's some that might need a

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decrease. So, I'd like to see actuals.

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Um, that helps me follow through uh to

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compare those the actual and the and the

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budget proposal.

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» Any other discussion?

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>> CEO Cochran.

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» CEO Cochran.

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>> Thank you. Through the chair or through

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» Thank you. Through the chair or through

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the reef to all of council, we will have

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our fourth quarter variance report. We

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just don't have that completed yet.

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We're still doing year end. So, fourth

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quarter variance report will be out

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shortly for council to see which will

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include all the actuals. We don't

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actually have the ability to pull our

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numbers just, you know, we're still

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finalizing year end for last year. Um,

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that will be part of the budget process.

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This, like I said, is a staged process.

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This isn't one and done today. You're

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not spending four hours and approving a

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budget. You're getting an introduction

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and very deep level as to what is in the

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budget. and we have put as much detail

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in there as possible for you to make

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informed decisions as you move forward.

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Again, as Miss Vonberg said, we won't be

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approving a budget. You won't be

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approving a budget until the end of

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April.

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» Any other concerns or questions?

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» Ready to go?

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>> Sure.

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» Sure.

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>> Let's go.

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» Let's go.

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>> Thank you.

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» Thank you.

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>> Good morning, council. So today is the

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» Good morning, council. So today is the

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next step of the 2026 budget process.

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Today's presentation outlines the 2026

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proposed operating budget which reflects

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day-to-day revenues and expenditures

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required to deliver municipal services.

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The proposed operating budget has been

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prepared by administration based on

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council's previously approved

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priorities, existing service levels,

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known cost pressures, and is intended to

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provide council with a complete starting

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point for review, discussion, and

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direction. Before moving into the

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presentation, I would like to thank the

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staff who contributed to both this

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presentation and the appendices included

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with today's report. The budget process

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truly is an organizationalwide effort.

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This presentation is organized into six

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main sections moving from broad context

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toward the detailed components of the

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2026 proposed operating budget. The

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first is an introduction which provides

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context for the 2026 budget including

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the schedule, guiding principles, and

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the process used to develop the budget.

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Budget trends and environment summarizes

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the external and internal factors

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influencing the 2026 budget. These

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trends have been presented to council

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previously during the budget cycle and

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are consolidated here to provide context

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for the proposed operating budget.

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Key considerations include inflation,

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service demand, demographic changes, and

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financial pressure pressures affecting

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the county's operations. Third quarter

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budget to actual results are also

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highlighted as they indicate the degree

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of flexibility in the current operating

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environment. Together, these factors

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form the backdrop for the assumptions

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and decisions reflected in the proposed

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budget.

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Then we have the proposed operating

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budget. This is a summary of the

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proposed operating budget outlining

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proposed revenues, expenses, and notable

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changes for 2026. The overview included

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in this presentation is supported by

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detailed schedules provided in the

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appendices, including summaries by

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function and department, as well as more

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detailed schedules by subfunction, both

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for the budget as a whole and for each

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department. The intent is to provide a

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clear picture of the day-to-day

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operating plan for 2026.

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Then we have the three-year operating

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forecast. This is a section which

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provides a forward-looking view of

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anticipated financial trends over the

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next three years. Then there's a budget

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overview. So this section consolidates

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the complete financial picture presented

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to council for 2026. It summarizes the

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operating budget, pre-approved projects

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and proposed projects, their funding

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sources, and outlines the impact on

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reserve balances.

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Then there's the next step section. This

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section outlines the remaining steps in

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the budget process. It covers the

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collection of council questions and

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information requests, the provision of

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responses and clarifications,

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deliberations on balancing options, and

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a path to formal adoption. It also

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identifies specific items highlighted

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for council discussion, and notes where

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motions or policy updates may be

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required. The timeline is designed to

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ensure allformational needs are met

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before the budget is finalized.

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We'll move on to the introduction. So,

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this first slide outlines the major

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steps and milestones of the 2026 budget

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process. The schedule is designed to

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ensure council has the information and

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time needed for thorough review and

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decision-m. This one's been adjusted a

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little bit as we delayed the operating

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budget in order to facilitate additional

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information as requested by council.

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The first step step was approval of

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budget guidelines back in June of 2025.

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Uh the 2072 26 budget process began with

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that. Um those guidelines set the

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framework for developing the budget

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process and allowed administration to

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begin developing the budget in July.

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Then there were pre-approval of

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projects. This year certain projects

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were presented to council for

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preapproval due to the delayed budget

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cycle resulting from council elections

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and orientation. Council's pre-approval

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of these projects helps ensure that

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critical infrastructure work, grant

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applications, and contractor scheduling

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preceded on time, even with a later

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budget adoption. The selection process

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for pre-approved projects focus focused

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on time sensitivity, funding sources,

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alignment with the capital plan, and

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operational importance. Those

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pre-approval projects and their statuses

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were also reviewed by council on

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December 9th.

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Then we had budget orientation on

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November 12th. Council received a budget

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orientation session which was an

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opportunity for council to receive an

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overview of financial planning and ask

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questions before detailed 2026 budget

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specific presentations in subsequent

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deliberations.

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Then we had setting the stage and

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proposed projects on November 25th. This

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presented the context for the 2026

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budget and outlined proposed projects

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being included. Then we had the third

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quarter variance report on December 2nd

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which pres was presented and in

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highlights how actual results compare

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with the 2025 budget helping council

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understand trends and make informed

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decisions throughout the 2026 budget

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process.

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Then we had interim budget and proposed

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operating budget on December 9th. Um

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this included approving approval of an

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interim operating budget was which was

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based onto the 2025 budget and presented

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carry forward projects to be continued

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into 2026.

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Now today we've got the proposed

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operating budget. Um this presentation

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provides an overview of the proposed

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operating budget and key drivers of

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changes between the 2025 and the 2026

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budget. The appendices attached to the

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report provide more detail on the

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proposed budget broken down by

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functional area and by department.

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Administration is proposing um on

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February 10th the proposed approval of

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pro projects um that were presented on

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November 25th. This would facilitate the

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initiation of these projects and ensure

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they can proceed as planned in 2026.

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We also look at responses to questions

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and council deliberations in February.

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So this the shift after today focuses on

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addressing council's questions and

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supporting deliberations.

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Throughout each of these presentations,

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council can ask questions. They're

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either addressed as asked or documented

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for future response. Questions can also

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be directed to the CEO outside of

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council meetings. During deliberations,

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responses to questions collected during

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the process will be addressed.

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This stage is designed to ensure that

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every question and concern is fully

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addressed before the budget is brought

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to a balanced state and subsequently

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forward for adoption. Deliberations

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continue as long as needed until council

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is satisfied and recommends that

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administration bring that back the

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budget for formal approval.

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And that means that would hit our final

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step um which is currently targeted

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before April 30th as that is the time

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frame the interim budget was based on

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and the timeline by which an adopted

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budget is required to finalize the

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property tax bylaw. Adoption of the

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budget formalizes council's decisions

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and sets the financial plan for the

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coming year.

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This schedule is designed to be

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transparent and collaborative, giving

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council multiple opportunities to

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review, ask questions, and shape the

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budget.

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Then we look at the guiding principles.

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Again, these were adopted in June of

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2025. Um, the purpose of the budget

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guidelines is to establish a foundation

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for approaching the annual budget. The

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guiding principles included are

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alignment with council's strategic plan

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that each budget decision should support

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the goals outlined in council's

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strategic plan which ensures resources

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are directed toward the community's

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long-term vision.

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Sustainment of existing service levels.

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Maintaining the current level of service

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is a priority. The budget is prepared to

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maintain existing service levels or

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amended levels as directed by council.

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Maintenance of competitive tax rates. We

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aim to be competitive with other

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municipalities, which helps attract and

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retain residents and businesses while

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balancing our revenue needs.

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Review and recommend adjustments to

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service fees and rates as necessary.

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Fees and rates will be evaluated to

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ensure fairness and cost recovery.

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Adjustments will be recommended

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throughout the process and are

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implemented at the direction of council.

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There are a few revenue sources which

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have recommended rate adjustments

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included in today's presentation.

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Continue to implement and monitor a

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proactive infrastructure renewal

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strategy. Proactive investment in

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infrastructure reduces long-term costs.

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This principle ensures we keep up with

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maintenance and renewal needs. This

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principle is reflected in proposed

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proactive infrastructure projects and

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reserve contribution recommendations.

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And finally, enhance the stakeholder

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experience. Budgeting is not just about

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numbers. We aim to make the process

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clear and accessible for council and the

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public.

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and we look at the budget development

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and review process. So this slide

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outlines the steps taken to prepare and

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review the budget before it is prevent

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presented to council for deliberation.

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It shows the collaborative approach

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across all levels of the organization.

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The first step is council setting the

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budget guidelines.

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This establishes the overall guidelines

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that provide clear direction on

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priorities, tax strategy and service

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expectations.

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Then we go through management team

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discussions and departmental

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submissions. Management teams review to

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meet to review priorities and

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constraints. Departments then submit

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their proposed budgets based on those

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discussions and council's guidelines.

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Then there's a finance review where

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finance consolidates and reviews all

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submissions. This step ensures accuracy,

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compliance, and alignment with financial

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targets. Then there's CIO and senior

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leadership review. The draft budget is

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reviewed by the CEO and senior

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leadership. Adjustments are made to

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ensure strategic alignment and

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organizational capacity.

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The final draft is then presented to

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council through a series of meetings for

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discussion and decision-making. Council

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deliberates on priorities, tax rates,

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and service levels before approving the

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budget.

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This concludes the introduction section

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section of today's presentation. Before

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I move on to budget trends and

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environments, are there any questions?

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Good to go. Okay.

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>> This section provides a summary of

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» This section provides a summary of

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trends and environmental factors

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presented in previous presentations.

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Although material is familiar, it

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remains an important context for the

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operating budget as these conditions

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00:50:56,079 --> 00:50:57,520
directly influence revenues,

559
00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:59,359
expenditures, and long-term financial

560
00:50:59,359 --> 00:51:01,520
planning. The slides that follow bring

561
00:51:01,520 --> 00:51:03,040
together the key budget to actual

562
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,280
results, external pressures, and broader

563
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:06,720
financial patterns that shape the

564
00:51:06,720 --> 00:51:11,589
operating environment for 2026.

565
00:51:11,599 --> 00:51:13,200
So this slide provides a summary of the

566
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:14,640
budget to actual trends that were

567
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:15,839
discussed during the third quarter

568
00:51:15,839 --> 00:51:18,640
variance report on December 2nd. Um

569
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:20,720
during the Q3 report, the core operating

570
00:51:20,720 --> 00:51:23,680
budget was forecasting a 2.95 5%

571
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,079
variance, which is narrower than the

572
00:51:26,079 --> 00:51:29,359
typical optimal range of 4 to 6%. That

573
00:51:29,359 --> 00:51:31,520
range of 4 to 6% is generally considered

574
00:51:31,520 --> 00:51:33,440
a comfortable and sustainable range for

575
00:51:33,440 --> 00:51:35,760
municipal operations. This level

576
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:37,440
provides sufficient flexibility to

577
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:39,760
absorb unexpected events during the year

578
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:41,440
while maintaining stable budgeting and

579
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,760
spending patterns. A tighter margin

580
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:45,920
indicates less room to absorb unforeseen

581
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:49,040
events within the fiscal year.

582
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:50,960
Core revenue trends had some favorable

583
00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:52,960
and some unfavorable variance. The net

584
00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,760
result being a.12% variance on core

585
00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,319
revenues. Trends that are expected to be

586
00:51:58,319 --> 00:52:00,559
sustained into 2026 have been adjusted

587
00:52:00,559 --> 00:52:02,880
in the proposed budget. We continue to

588
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:04,800
see favorable variances in return on

589
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:06,559
investments and capital equipment plan

590
00:52:06,559 --> 00:52:08,319
sales, which are typically directed to

591
00:52:08,319 --> 00:52:10,400
reserves to support long-term capital

592
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:13,359
and stabilization needs.

593
00:52:13,359 --> 00:52:15,440
Core expenditures were forecasted at a

594
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,240
2.83% variance.

595
00:52:18,240 --> 00:52:20,000
Forecasted favorable variances were

596
00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:21,520
reviewed and incorporated into the

597
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,079
proposed 2026 budget where the trend is

598
00:52:24,079 --> 00:52:29,750
projected to continue into 2026.

599
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:31,920
Next, we look at the key insights from

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00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,319
the environmental scan. Um, again, these

601
00:52:34,319 --> 00:52:36,240
came from the November 25th presentation

602
00:52:36,240 --> 00:52:37,440
where there was more detailed

603
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,119
information.

604
00:52:39,119 --> 00:52:41,040
Um, one, the county's population is

605
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,200
aging and becoming more diverse, which

606
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:44,960
may increase demand for specialized

607
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:46,800
services and more inclusive approaches

608
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,200
to service delivery.

609
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:51,040
Additionally, demand for services and

610
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:52,960
infrastructure upgrades is increasing,

611
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:54,559
driven by demographic shifts and

612
00:52:54,559 --> 00:52:57,520
evolving community expectations.

613
00:52:57,520 --> 00:52:59,599
The compounding impact of high inflation

614
00:52:59,599 --> 00:53:01,520
continues to affect financial planning,

615
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:03,119
making it more challenging to maintain

616
00:53:03,119 --> 00:53:06,160
service levels and fund new initiatives.

617
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:07,920
These trends underscore the importance

618
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:09,680
of continually reviewing and adapting

619
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:11,680
budget strategies to ensure the county

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00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,079
remains responsive to evolving needs and

621
00:53:14,079 --> 00:53:19,910
maintains financial sustainability.

622
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:21,599
Next, we looked at fiscal condition and

623
00:53:21,599 --> 00:53:23,359
comparators.

624
00:53:23,359 --> 00:53:25,200
Some of the key trends here were that

625
00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:26,960
residential assessment and property tax

626
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,440
share are rising while non-residential

627
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,839
assessment and tax share are declining.

628
00:53:31,839 --> 00:53:33,680
This shift increases reliance on

629
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:35,680
residential and farmland properties for

630
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:37,680
revenue.

631
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:39,280
Asset replacement and mainten

632
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,119
maintenance needs are growing as shown

633
00:53:41,119 --> 00:53:42,800
by the declining percentage of asset

634
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:44,559
value remaining and the infrastructure

635
00:53:44,559 --> 00:53:46,160
gap.

636
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:47,440
The county faces long-term

637
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:48,800
infrastructure maintenance funding

638
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:50,559
pressure which will require careful

639
00:53:50,559 --> 00:53:52,640
prioritization and proactive reserve

640
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:54,240
planning

641
00:53:54,240 --> 00:53:56,160
and strategic reserve management is

642
00:53:56,160 --> 00:53:57,599
essential to maintain financial

643
00:53:57,599 --> 00:53:59,520
sustainability and avoid sudden tax

644
00:53:59,520 --> 00:54:02,400
increases or service reductions.

645
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,000
These insights highlight the importance

646
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:06,240
of long-term financial planning and the

647
00:54:06,240 --> 00:54:08,079
need to balance revenue strategies,

648
00:54:08,079 --> 00:54:10,000
infrastructure renewal, and service

649
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:11,920
expectations within the county's budget

650
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,640
environment.

651
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:16,640
Then we looked at provincial pressures.

652
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:18,480
This slide summarizes the main takeaways

653
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:20,880
from that section. First, provincial

654
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:22,800
policy creates uncertainty in tax

655
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:25,520
revenues and service funding. Examples

656
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:27,359
include assessment model reviews,

657
00:54:27,359 --> 00:54:29,119
requisition changes, and initiatives

658
00:54:29,119 --> 00:54:31,920
like the mature asset strategy.

659
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:33,920
Second, these changes often shift the

660
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:35,680
tax burden towards residential and

661
00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:38,000
farmland properties, especially under

662
00:54:38,000 --> 00:54:39,920
the constraints of the 5:1 tax rate

663
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:41,920
ratio.

664
00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:44,160
Also, council must be prepared to adjust

665
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:45,839
service levels or explore new funding

666
00:54:45,839 --> 00:54:49,040
sources if provincial impacts worsen.

667
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:50,720
These insights reinforce the importance

668
00:54:50,720 --> 00:54:52,400
of long-term financial planning,

669
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,400
proactive reserve strategies as well as

670
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,160
advocacy to protect municipal

671
00:54:56,160 --> 00:55:00,150
sustainability.

672
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,480
Um, this slide looks at the compared the

673
00:55:02,480 --> 00:55:05,520
rate of inflation um as measured by CPI

674
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:07,280
to the county's tax revenue and other

675
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:08,880
sources of revenue over the past few

676
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:10,960
years. Um, this slide was also presented

677
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:13,040
at that November 25th presentation, but

678
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:15,520
we've added the proposed 2026 budget

679
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,960
trending to it as well. Um, CPI is used

680
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:20,559
here because it's widely available and

681
00:55:20,559 --> 00:55:22,319
commonly referenced. However, it is

682
00:55:22,319 --> 00:55:23,920
important to note that municipal price

683
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:25,760
index is more specific to municipal

684
00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:27,839
costs, but doesn't have a published

685
00:55:27,839 --> 00:55:30,480
metric available. Um, it just that just

686
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:32,240
notes that the basket of goods within

687
00:55:32,240 --> 00:55:34,000
CPI are different than the basket of

688
00:55:34,000 --> 00:55:36,800
goods that a municipality uses. And

689
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,040
generally it's understood that MPI is

690
00:55:39,040 --> 00:55:41,119
probably growing higher at a higher rate

691
00:55:41,119 --> 00:55:44,319
than CPI is.

692
00:55:44,319 --> 00:55:45,920
Um the data shows that invas in

693
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:47,599
inflation has generally increased at a

694
00:55:47,599 --> 00:55:49,200
faster rate than most of the county's

695
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:52,240
revenue streams. Um tax revenue has seen

696
00:55:52,240 --> 00:55:54,079
growth but other revenues have not kept

697
00:55:54,079 --> 00:55:55,920
a pace with inflation and in some years

698
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,079
have declined. This means that the

699
00:55:58,079 --> 00:56:00,160
county's purchasing power is eroding.

700
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:01,839
Dollars received do not go as far as

701
00:56:01,839 --> 00:56:04,079
they did in previous years. When

702
00:56:04,079 --> 00:56:06,000
revenues do not keep up with inflation,

703
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:07,680
it becomes more challenging to maintain

704
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:09,520
service levels, fund new initiatives,

705
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:11,040
and address rising costs within the

706
00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:14,160
budget environment.

707
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:16,319
Um, same thing with this. We've done the

708
00:56:16,319 --> 00:56:18,000
expenditure slide. Council has seen this

709
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:19,440
slide before, but we've added the

710
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:22,240
proposed 2026 budget trending into it as

711
00:56:22,240 --> 00:56:25,280
well. Um, this chart shows how the costs

712
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:27,040
for contract and general services,

713
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:29,040
materials, goods, and supplies, and

714
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:30,559
utilities, as well as other other

715
00:56:30,559 --> 00:56:32,319
expenditures have changed in relation to

716
00:56:32,319 --> 00:56:36,000
inflation. From 2021 to 2023, the data

717
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:37,359
reflects the county's efforts to

718
00:56:37,359 --> 00:56:39,200
actively manage and contain costs,

719
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,119
keeping expenditure growth below or

720
00:56:41,119 --> 00:56:43,599
close to the rate of inflation. The

721
00:56:43,599 --> 00:56:45,920
leveling out and increase in 2024 and

722
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,079
2025 indicate that the ability to

723
00:56:48,079 --> 00:56:49,920
continue managing costs in this way is

724
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:52,000
limited. Slight reductions were achieved

725
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:54,480
for the proposed 2026 budget, primarily

726
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,359
related to reduced staffing. This trend

727
00:56:57,359 --> 00:56:58,640
highlights the growing challenge of

728
00:56:58,640 --> 00:56:59,920
maintaining service levels and

729
00:56:59,920 --> 00:57:01,280
infrastructure within the budget

730
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:03,920
environment.

731
00:57:03,920 --> 00:57:05,760
That concludes my section, this

732
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:07,920
introduction section. Um, before I move

733
00:57:07,920 --> 00:57:10,079
on to the proposed operating budget, are

734
00:57:10,079 --> 00:57:17,270
there any questions from council?

735
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:18,640
» Everybody good?

736
00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:20,069
>> Yep.

737
00:57:20,069 --> 00:57:20,079
» Yep.

738
00:57:20,079 --> 00:57:21,670
>> Okay.

739
00:57:21,670 --> 00:57:21,680
» Okay.

740
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:23,760
This section provides a highle overview

741
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:25,920
of the proposed operating budget. It

742
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:27,280
goes through the functional revenue and

743
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:29,119
expense categories that form the basis

744
00:57:29,119 --> 00:57:32,720
of the proposed 2026 operating budget.

745
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:34,559
This section aims to summarize the core

746
00:57:34,559 --> 00:57:36,720
operating budget at a level suitable for

747
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:38,799
presentation, while the appendices

748
00:57:38,799 --> 00:57:40,400
provide more technical details for

749
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:43,280
further review. The 2026 proposed

750
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:44,960
operating budget maintains the county's

751
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:46,640
overall financial stability while

752
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:48,160
preserving service levels across

753
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:50,640
departments. Total projected revenues

754
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:52,079
and expenses have been carefully

755
00:57:52,079 --> 00:57:53,599
reviewed, and the proposed budget

756
00:57:53,599 --> 00:57:58,870
currently shows a surplus of $139,683.

757
00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:00,799
This surplus reflects targeted cost

758
00:58:00,799 --> 00:58:02,720
reductions, operational efficiencies,

759
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:04,319
and staffing and program delivery

760
00:58:04,319 --> 00:58:06,079
adjustments that enable the county to

761
00:58:06,079 --> 00:58:08,160
continue providing essential services

762
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:09,920
without increasing the overall tax

763
00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,559
burden on rateayers.

764
00:58:12,559 --> 00:58:14,480
Total municipal tax revenues remain the

765
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:17,040
same as in 2025. This stability is

766
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:18,480
supported by prudent expenditure

767
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:20,079
management and the elimination or

768
00:58:20,079 --> 00:58:22,319
consolidation of programs as directed by

769
00:58:22,319 --> 00:58:25,200
council. Overall expenditures decrease

770
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:28,480
by approximately 2% compared to 2025.

771
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:30,319
These savings offset inflationary

772
00:58:30,319 --> 00:58:31,920
pressures and provinially mandated

773
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:34,000
program contributions allowing the

774
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:35,440
county to maintain service levels

775
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:37,040
without adding financial pressures to

776
00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:40,309
rateayers.

777
00:58:40,319 --> 00:58:42,319
So before I actually get into an

778
00:58:42,319 --> 00:58:44,319
overview of the proposed budget, this

779
00:58:44,319 --> 00:58:45,920
slide just provides an overview of the

780
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:47,599
appendices that support this

781
00:58:47,599 --> 00:58:50,160
presentation today. These appendices

782
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:51,760
contain the detailed schedules that

783
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:53,440
support the highle summary included

784
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:56,480
within this presentation. Appendix A is

785
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:58,400
the summary by function which gives a

786
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:00,720
consolidated view of the 2026 operating

787
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:04,480
C budget across service areas. Appendix

788
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:06,480
B provides the summary by department

789
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:08,000
offering the same information but

790
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:09,839
organized by organizational structure

791
00:59:09,839 --> 00:59:12,319
rather than function.

792
00:59:12,319 --> 00:59:14,319
Appendix C contains the detailed

793
00:59:14,319 --> 00:59:16,400
operating budget by function, including

794
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:18,400
subfunctions, descriptions, and

795
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:20,640
explanation for variances between 2025

796
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:23,680
and 2026. This is the primary reference

797
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:25,680
for understanding the specific drivers

798
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:27,520
between jud budget adjustments and for

799
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:28,720
the numbers included in this

800
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:30,640
presentation.

801
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:32,880
Appendix D presents the detailed

802
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:34,640
operating budget by department, showing

803
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:36,720
the same level of detail as appendix C,

804
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:40,319
but aligned to individual departments.

805
00:59:40,319 --> 00:59:42,240
Appendix E supports alignment between

806
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:44,960
appendix C's C and D by listing what

807
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:47,200
departments contribute to each each sub

808
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:49,920
function. Appendix F includes the

809
00:59:49,920 --> 00:59:51,599
three-year operating forecast and

810
00:59:51,599 --> 00:59:53,359
appendex G provides the projected

811
00:59:53,359 --> 00:59:55,599
reserve schedule summarizing reserve

812
00:59:55,599 --> 00:59:57,920
activity and expected balances after all

813
00:59:57,920 --> 00:59:59,920
proposed transfers.

814
00:59:59,920 --> 01:00:01,680
These appendices form the technical

815
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:03,440
foundation for the proposed budget and

816
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:05,119
provide detailed information available

817
01:00:05,119 --> 01:00:10,069
for further review.

818
01:00:10,079 --> 01:00:11,680
With that, I will move on to the

819
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:14,240
overview of the 2026 proposed operating

820
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:16,960
budget.

821
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:18,960
This slide pre presents the overall

822
01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:21,200
revenue summary by function. Um, in

823
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,040
total, the revenues have decreased by

824
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:26,720
1.52% from the 2025 budget. The primary

825
01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:28,319
driver of this change is the reduction

826
01:00:28,319 --> 01:00:30,240
in transfers from reserves which were

827
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:34,950
utilized to balance the 2025 budget.

828
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:36,720
So, first we look at licenses and

829
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:39,359
permits, which make up.1% of total

830
01:00:39,359 --> 01:00:41,760
revenues. These revenues include safety

831
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:43,520
code permits for things like buildings,

832
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:45,280
electrical, gas, and plumbing, and

833
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:46,880
development permits for projects that

834
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:48,400
require planning approval from the

835
01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:51,200
county. The 2026 proposed budget of

836
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:54,000
$85,000 reflects anticipated levels of

837
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:55,839
development and safety code activity in

838
01:00:55,839 --> 01:00:59,750
2026.

839
01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:01,520
Then we look at operating grants which

840
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:04,079
make up 2% of total revenues. This

841
01:01:04,079 --> 01:01:05,839
category includes grant funding from the

842
01:01:05,839 --> 01:01:07,440
local government fiscal framework and

843
01:01:07,440 --> 01:01:09,760
the agricultural services program that

844
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:12,000
supports legislative agricultural and

845
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:13,680
environmental services delivered by the

846
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:16,640
county. The 2026 proposed budget of

847
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:19,670
$499,173

848
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:23,280
is $7,500 lower than the 2025 budget,

849
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:25,440
which reflects a reduction in the ASB

850
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:27,920
grant allocation in accordance with the

851
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:29,359
um contract that we have with the

852
01:01:29,359 --> 01:01:32,549
province.

853
01:01:32,559 --> 01:01:34,720
Then we look at other revenue which is

854
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:37,359
2% of total proposed revenues. This

855
01:01:37,359 --> 01:01:39,760
category includes three items. Water

856
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:41,520
licensing fees, which are charged for

857
01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:43,520
license access to county managed water

858
01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:46,000
sources. Water modeling fees, which are

859
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:47,760
charges collected before installing a

860
01:01:47,760 --> 01:01:49,359
new waterline connection to fund

861
01:01:49,359 --> 01:01:51,359
modeling that confirms capacity at the

862
01:01:51,359 --> 01:01:53,359
proposed connection.

863
01:01:53,359 --> 01:01:55,280
And miscellaneous revenues, small

864
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:56,960
infrequent items that don't fit into

865
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:58,799
other categories, things like minor

866
01:01:58,799 --> 01:02:00,640
administrative recoveries or one-off

867
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:03,599
amounts. The 2026 proposed budget for

868
01:02:03,599 --> 01:02:06,000
other revenue is $82,100,

869
01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:12,309
which is unchanged from 2025.

870
01:02:12,319 --> 01:02:13,920
Next, we look at the sale of goods and

871
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:16,319
services, which is 6% of total proposed

872
01:02:16,319 --> 01:02:20,000
revenues for a total of $1.9 million.

873
01:02:20,000 --> 01:02:21,920
This category includes a range of user

874
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:23,520
fees and service charges the county

875
01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:26,079
collects for day-to-day operations. Core

876
01:02:26,079 --> 01:02:27,839
items in this area include water

877
01:02:27,839 --> 01:02:30,319
distribution fees and bulk water sales,

878
01:02:30,319 --> 01:02:32,400
dust control fees requested by residents

879
01:02:32,400 --> 01:02:34,880
or businesses, campground fees for

880
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:36,880
county sites, and waste collection fees

881
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:38,640
under county programs and ICF

882
01:02:38,640 --> 01:02:40,640
agreements.

883
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:42,160
It also includes planning and

884
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:44,480
development fees, sewer fees, and

885
01:02:44,480 --> 01:02:46,400
smaller items such as the FCSS

886
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:48,720
management fees, certificate fees,

887
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:51,520
cemetery plot sales, and mowing, ASB

888
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:53,520
extension program revenues, provincial

889
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:56,559
highway callouts, safety code fees, weed

890
01:02:56,559 --> 01:02:59,599
inspection on private lands, map sales,

891
01:02:59,599 --> 01:03:01,520
oil field inspections, scrap metal

892
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:04,799
disposal, and recycling recoveries.

893
01:03:04,799 --> 01:03:06,559
The this next slide will actually show

894
01:03:06,559 --> 01:03:09,200
you the variations between the 2025 and

895
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:11,839
the 2026 budget.

896
01:03:11,839 --> 01:03:13,680
Water distribution fees have increased

897
01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:16,400
by 20,615

898
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:19,829
to $1,51,655

899
01:03:19,839 --> 01:03:22,000
to reflect projected consumption trends

900
01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:24,079
at current rates. This does not reflect

901
01:03:24,079 --> 01:03:25,680
any rate adjustments from what is

902
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:27,680
existing in the current master rates

903
01:03:27,680 --> 01:03:30,720
bylaw. Bulk water sales increased by

904
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:32,640
$6,542

905
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:36,069
to $333,645

906
01:03:36,079 --> 01:03:38,319
based on historical usage patterns.

907
01:03:38,319 --> 01:03:41,280
Again, this is based on existing rates.

908
01:03:41,280 --> 01:03:42,880
Campground fees have increased by

909
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:45,200
$21,925

910
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:48,480
to $17,875

911
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:50,720
due to the proposed $5 per night rate

912
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:54,000
adjustment across county campgrounds.

913
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:56,319
ICF weight waste collection fees were

914
01:03:56,319 --> 01:03:58,160
added to the budget to reflect updated

915
01:03:58,160 --> 01:04:00,799
intermunicipal agreements.

916
01:04:00,799 --> 01:04:02,559
Paid parking has been removed from the

917
01:04:02,559 --> 01:04:04,160
budget entirely reflecting the

918
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:06,480
discontinuation of the Horseshoe Canyon

919
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:09,520
paid parking program. All other items

920
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:11,359
not shown here include a variety of

921
01:04:11,359 --> 01:04:12,880
smaller adjustments which again are

922
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:18,230
detailed in appendix C.

923
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:19,599
Then we look at sales to other

924
01:04:19,599 --> 01:04:21,920
governments which makes up 6% of total

925
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:23,760
proposed revenues.

926
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:25,359
This category includes revenues

927
01:04:25,359 --> 01:04:26,799
collected from intermunicipal and

928
01:04:26,799 --> 01:04:28,640
regional partners for services that the

929
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:31,280
county provides. These include Aqua 7

930
01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:33,119
management fees, dispatch service

931
01:04:33,119 --> 01:04:35,200
reimbursements, peace officer contract

932
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:37,680
services, fire services reimbursements,

933
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:40,240
and bylaw enforcement reimbursements.

934
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:42,000
These charges reflect cost sharing

935
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:43,440
arrangements, fee for service

936
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:45,280
agreements, and reimbursements tied to

937
01:04:45,280 --> 01:04:48,400
regional service delivery. The 2026

938
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:50,079
proposed budgets for sales to other

939
01:04:50,079 --> 01:04:53,119
governments is $126,300

940
01:04:53,119 --> 01:04:56,079
which is $79,57

941
01:04:56,079 --> 01:04:59,520
$570 lower than 2025. This decrease

942
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:01,359
relates primarily to the removal of the

943
01:05:01,359 --> 01:05:03,200
carbon management services contract

944
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:05,440
which did not proceed.

945
01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:07,839
Other intermunicipal service revenues

946
01:05:07,839 --> 01:05:09,760
continue at expected levels with minor

947
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:14,630
adjustments noted in appendix C.

948
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:16,880
Then we look at rental income which is4%

949
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:19,119
of total proposed revenues. This

950
01:05:19,119 --> 01:05:21,200
category includes revenues from facility

951
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:23,039
and land leases administered by the

952
01:05:23,039 --> 01:05:24,960
county. The main items include the

953
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:26,799
medical clinic lease, the Torington post

954
01:05:26,799 --> 01:05:29,119
office lease, surface lease rental land

955
01:05:29,119 --> 01:05:32,559
rentals, and snow plowing agreements.

956
01:05:32,559 --> 01:05:34,309
>> When did we when did we take possession

957
01:05:34,309 --> 01:05:34,319
» When did we when did we take possession

958
01:05:34,319 --> 01:05:43,670
of the Torington post office?

959
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:45,599
Uh, it's separate of the, if I'm

960
01:05:45,599 --> 01:05:46,640
thinking right, it's separate.

961
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:47,910
>> It's part of the fire hole.

962
01:05:47,910 --> 01:05:47,920
» It's part of the fire hole.

963
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:49,750
>> It is part of the fire.

964
01:05:49,750 --> 01:05:49,760
» It is part of the fire.

965
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:50,710
>> It always was.

966
01:05:50,710 --> 01:05:50,720
» It always was.

967
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:52,309
>> Yeah.

968
01:05:52,309 --> 01:05:52,319
» Yeah.

969
01:05:52,319 --> 01:05:54,630
>> It's right beside it, like attached to

970
01:05:54,630 --> 01:05:54,640
» It's right beside it, like attached to

971
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:55,760
it.

972
01:05:55,760 --> 01:05:59,190
>> Yeah.

973
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:01,760
» Counc. And those are expenses that we

974
01:06:01,760 --> 01:06:05,280
charge directly to Canada Post

975
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:06,710
>> through the chair. Yes. Those are that's

976
01:06:06,710 --> 01:06:06,720
» through the chair. Yes. Those are that's

977
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:08,640
our rental agreement. They pay the

978
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:10,240
county to use that portion of our

979
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:15,190
building.

980
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:17,599
Uh, the 2026 proposed budget for rental

981
01:06:17,599 --> 01:06:19,680
income is $142,000,

982
01:06:19,680 --> 01:06:22,160
which is $1,000 higher than the 2025

983
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:24,319
budget and reflects updates consistent

984
01:06:24,319 --> 01:06:28,390
with current rental agreements.

985
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:30,880
Penalties and fines represents 2% of

986
01:06:30,880 --> 01:06:33,039
total proposed revenues. Uh this

987
01:06:33,039 --> 01:06:35,039
category includes property tax penalties

988
01:06:35,039 --> 01:06:37,119
applied when payments are late, peace

989
01:06:37,119 --> 01:06:38,720
officer fines issued under county

990
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:40,480
enforcement activities, and penalties

991
01:06:40,480 --> 01:06:42,319
charged on utility accounts and accounts

992
01:06:42,319 --> 01:06:44,480
receivables when balances become

993
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:47,440
overdue. The 2026 proposed budget for

994
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:50,079
penalties and fines is $103,000, which

995
01:06:50,079 --> 01:06:53,200
is $20,000 higher than 2025. This

996
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:54,640
increase reflects recent trends in

997
01:06:54,640 --> 01:06:56,559
property tax penalties observed through

998
01:06:56,559 --> 01:07:01,349
2025

999
01:07:01,359 --> 01:07:03,760
» through the chair.

1000
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:05,760
Would that typically be commercial

1001
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:10,480
property tax fines or are rateayers also

1002
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:13,839
struggling with their with their fees?

1003
01:07:13,839 --> 01:07:15,190
>> Um through the chair I don't have the

1004
01:07:15,190 --> 01:07:15,200
» Um through the chair I don't have the

1005
01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:16,400
exact breakdown. It would be a

1006
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:30,309
combination of the two.

1007
01:07:30,319 --> 01:07:32,480
Um

1008
01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:35,520
then we look at and actually just a

1009
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:36,720
little bit more context on those

1010
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:39,359
property tax um penalties. The penalty

1011
01:07:39,359 --> 01:07:41,680
bylaw was changed a couple years ago and

1012
01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:43,200
when we initially did that we actually

1013
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:45,039
reduced penalties and fines in

1014
01:07:45,039 --> 01:07:47,200
accordance with that bylaw. And so that

1015
01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:48,640
adjustment is really just seeing where

1016
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:50,400
trending is actually going and then

1017
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:53,839
adjusting in alignment with that.

1018
01:07:53,839 --> 01:07:55,440
Um then we look at property tax

1019
01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:58,000
revenues. There make up 86% of total

1020
01:07:58,000 --> 01:08:00,000
proposed revenues.

1021
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:02,000
This category reflects the total

1022
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:05,039
municipal component of the levy. Uh for

1023
01:08:05,039 --> 01:08:06,960
2026, the total amount to be raised by

1024
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:10,319
property taxes is unchanged from 2025.

1025
01:08:10,319 --> 01:08:12,079
The budget is built to hold the overall

1026
01:08:12,079 --> 01:08:14,960
levy flat year-over-year.

1027
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:16,719
While the total levy is flat, the amount

1028
01:08:16,719 --> 01:08:18,799
paid by individual rate payers may still

1029
01:08:18,799 --> 01:08:20,960
change once once final assessment values

1030
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:22,880
and mill rates are set in the tax rate

1031
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:25,759
bylaw. Changes in assessed value by

1032
01:08:25,759 --> 01:08:27,520
market shifts, new construction or

1033
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:29,759
reassessment or in the relative share

1034
01:08:29,759 --> 01:08:31,199
between assessment classes will

1035
01:08:31,199 --> 01:08:34,080
influence individual tax bills. A

1036
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:36,000
further consideration is the 5 to1 t

1037
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:38,000
non-residential to residential tax rate

1038
01:08:38,000 --> 01:08:40,319
ratio cap. This limits how far the

1039
01:08:40,319 --> 01:08:42,080
non-residential rate can be set above

1040
01:08:42,080 --> 01:08:43,839
the residential rate, which can

1041
01:08:43,839 --> 01:08:45,759
constrain options when assessment shifts

1042
01:08:45,759 --> 01:08:48,080
between classes. Administration will

1043
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:49,839
bring forward the finalized distribution

1044
01:08:49,839 --> 01:08:51,600
across assessment classes and will

1045
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:53,600
facilitate the mill rates with council

1046
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:55,600
when developing the tax rate bylaw to

1047
01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:57,359
ensure compliance with the ratio and

1048
01:08:57,359 --> 01:08:58,960
maintain the total levy in the final

1049
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:01,120
budget.

1050
01:09:01,120 --> 01:09:03,279
The 2026 proposed budget for property

1051
01:09:03,279 --> 01:09:08,309
taxes is 27,710,295.

1052
01:09:08,319 --> 01:09:11,120
Again, unchanged from 2025.

1053
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:13,120
Exact impacts on individual properties

1054
01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:14,480
will be confirmed when the final

1055
01:09:14,480 --> 01:09:16,159
assessment numbers and the development

1056
01:09:16,159 --> 01:09:20,870
of the tax rate bylaw.

1057
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:22,319
Then we look at special taxes and

1058
01:09:22,319 --> 01:09:24,239
frontage which are about 1% of total

1059
01:09:24,239 --> 01:09:26,480
proposed revenues. This category

1060
01:09:26,480 --> 01:09:28,560
includes the TRU swimming pool levy and

1061
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:30,400
water connection levies collected on

1062
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:32,239
specific properties under the applicable

1063
01:09:32,239 --> 01:09:34,799
bylaws. These levies fund defined

1064
01:09:34,799 --> 01:09:36,640
purposes. The pool levy supports the

1065
01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:37,920
town of Trochu's swimming pool

1066
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:39,759
operations and the water connection

1067
01:09:39,759 --> 01:09:41,520
levies relate to cost recovery for

1068
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:44,239
original waterline implementation.

1069
01:09:44,239 --> 01:09:46,319
The 2026 proposed budget for special

1070
01:09:46,319 --> 01:09:50,000
taxes and frontage is $97,1

1071
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:52,719
which is $151844

1072
01:09:52,719 --> 01:09:55,600
lower than 2025. The decrease reflects

1073
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:57,760
the expiry of one water connection levy

1074
01:09:57,760 --> 01:09:59,679
and an update to the TroU swimming pool

1075
01:09:59,679 --> 01:10:04,709
levy for 2026.

1076
01:10:04,719 --> 01:10:06,480
Then we have return on investments which

1077
01:10:06,480 --> 01:10:09,440
make up 2% of total proposed revenues.

1078
01:10:09,440 --> 01:10:12,000
Um this category represents the planned

1079
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:13,440
operating share of earnings from the

1080
01:10:13,440 --> 01:10:16,080
county's investment portfolio. Actual

1081
01:10:16,080 --> 01:10:17,440
market returns can fluctuate

1082
01:10:17,440 --> 01:10:19,040
significantly year-to-year due to

1083
01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:21,280
interest rates and market conditions. So

1084
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:23,360
we budget a stable stable amount for

1085
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:26,640
operations. The 2026 proposed budget for

1086
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:31,030
return on investments is $766,784,

1087
01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:33,679
which is unchanged from 2025.

1088
01:10:33,679 --> 01:10:35,760
Any returns above this planned operating

1089
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:37,360
amount are typically allocated to

1090
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:39,280
reserves rather than added to ongoing

1091
01:10:39,280 --> 01:10:41,840
operations. This approach recognizes the

1092
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:43,520
volatility of investment income and

1093
01:10:43,520 --> 01:10:45,679
helps ensure one-time gains are used for

1094
01:10:45,679 --> 01:10:47,600
one-time purposes while the operating

1095
01:10:47,600 --> 01:10:55,430
budget remains stable and predictable.

1096
01:10:55,440 --> 01:10:57,760
Transfers from reserves make up 0% of

1097
01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:00,000
total proposed revenues as no transfers

1098
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:01,520
have been included in the proposed

1099
01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:04,159
operating budget. This line captures any

1100
01:11:04,159 --> 01:11:06,080
operating budget draws from reserves

1101
01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:07,920
that council may authorize to balance

1102
01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:10,560
the budget or smooth temporary pressure.

1103
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:12,880
The 2026 proposed budget includes no

1104
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:15,600
transfer. In 2025, there was a draw from

1105
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:17,440
the revenue stabilization reserve to

1106
01:11:17,440 --> 01:11:20,159
balance the operating budget. For 2026,

1107
01:11:20,159 --> 01:11:21,760
the operating plan stands on its own

1108
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:24,000
without reserve support. This approach

1109
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:26,080
aligns with sound financial practices,

1110
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:28,239
using reserves for one-time needs, and

1111
01:11:28,239 --> 01:11:29,920
keeping the operating budget sustainable

1112
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:33,600
on recurring revenues.

1113
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:35,120
Finally, within revenues, we have

1114
01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:37,440
capital equipment plan sales, which make

1115
01:11:37,440 --> 01:11:40,400
3% of total proposed revenues.

1116
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:42,320
This category represents proceeds from

1117
01:11:42,320 --> 01:11:43,920
selling used equipment as part of the

1118
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:45,440
county's planned fleet and equipment

1119
01:11:45,440 --> 01:11:47,760
replacement cycle. The intent is to

1120
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:49,600
recognize a stable, conservative amount

1121
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:51,280
each year for budgeting while keeping

1122
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:53,120
the capital replacement program funded

1123
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:54,800
through broader capital equipment plan

1124
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:56,640
strategy.

1125
01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:58,719
The 2026 proposed budget for capital

1126
01:11:58,719 --> 01:12:00,960
equipment plan sales is $100,000, which

1127
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:03,600
was unchanged from 2025.

1128
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:06,080
Any sale proceeds above this budgeted

1129
01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:07,840
amount are typically contributed back to

1130
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:09,920
the capital equipment plan reserve. So

1131
01:12:09,920 --> 01:12:11,520
onetime gains help fund future

1132
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:13,040
replacements rather than ongoing

1133
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:14,800
operations.

1134
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:16,239
That concludes the portion of this

1135
01:12:16,239 --> 01:12:18,159
presentation detailing revenues. Before

1136
01:12:18,159 --> 01:12:19,920
I move on to expenditures, are there any

1137
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:24,709
questions from council?

1138
01:12:24,719 --> 01:12:26,560
» Councelor Olsen.

1139
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:30,149
>> Yeah. Do we have a detailed uh

1140
01:12:30,149 --> 01:12:30,159
» Yeah. Do we have a detailed uh

1141
01:12:30,159 --> 01:12:33,040
you know province or form on province

1142
01:12:33,040 --> 01:12:34,640
restrictions on our investment funds?

1143
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:36,560
Like I know we're allowed only allowed

1144
01:12:36,560 --> 01:12:39,679
to do so many things with that, but is

1145
01:12:39,679 --> 01:12:42,560
there uh information that we can get as

1146
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:44,880
council? through the chair. We do have

1147
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:46,400
an investment policy. I don't remember

1148
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:47,920
the number right off the top of my head,

1149
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:52,950
but I can provide that to council.

1150
01:12:52,960 --> 01:12:54,880
» Uh, councelor Cunningham,

1151
01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:56,229
>> I think I know the answer to this

1152
01:12:56,229 --> 01:12:56,239
» I think I know the answer to this

1153
01:12:56,239 --> 01:12:57,520
question just because of the way of the

1154
01:12:57,520 --> 01:12:59,760
world, but I noticed quite a a decrease

1155
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:02,000
in our revenue on licenses and permits

1156
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:03,920
about $35,000.

1157
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:05,280
This would be maybe a question for the

1158
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:06,640
planning or economic development

1159
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:07,920
department, but I'm guessing we're just

1160
01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:09,679
seeing with the cost of doing business,

1161
01:13:09,679 --> 01:13:11,760
the cost of running a household, people

1162
01:13:11,760 --> 01:13:12,800
just aren't doing what they

1163
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:14,640
traditionally maybe have done.

1164
01:13:14,640 --> 01:13:16,149
>> Um through the chair, this one actually

1165
01:13:16,149 --> 01:13:16,159
» Um through the chair, this one actually

1166
01:13:16,159 --> 01:13:18,880
is one we it had been increased for the

1167
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:20,960
2025 budget. It's actually being reduced

1168
01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:23,440
back down to where kind of 2023 and 2024

1169
01:13:23,440 --> 01:13:26,000
budget levels were. Um in 2025, there

1170
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:28,000
was some anticipation of some additional

1171
01:13:28,000 --> 01:13:29,760
development that we're not necessarily

1172
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:37,030
expecting to continue in 2026.

1173
01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:38,480
Councelor Olson,

1174
01:13:38,480 --> 01:13:42,229
>> sorry, one more question. Um, is there

1175
01:13:42,229 --> 01:13:42,239
» sorry, one more question. Um, is there

1176
01:13:42,239 --> 01:13:45,199
like we go through all these topics like

1177
01:13:45,199 --> 01:13:47,760
revenue, you know, and expenses and

1178
01:13:47,760 --> 01:13:50,560
whatever else, but do we have a side by

1179
01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:56,080
side in any of these revenue versus

1180
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:57,760
expense?

1181
01:13:57,760 --> 01:13:59,520
Because like if you look at the

1182
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:02,080
campground, the variance is for revenue

1183
01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:05,440
is plus $21,925.

1184
01:14:05,440 --> 01:14:07,760
But then you go through and you see the

1185
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:11,679
expense and it's up $18,000

1186
01:14:11,679 --> 01:14:14,719
in expense for campgrounds. So really, I

1187
01:14:14,719 --> 01:14:20,719
mean, we're we're looking at $3,000 925

1188
01:14:20,719 --> 01:14:23,360
is to the positive, but you don't see

1189
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:25,360
that till you go through all this mess.

1190
01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:28,880
It' be nice to for me anyways to to see

1191
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:31,520
that expense side by side so we know

1192
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:33,920
yeah sure the revenue looks great but

1193
01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:35,679
when you see the expense then you can

1194
01:14:35,679 --> 01:14:38,560
kind of calculate really quickly what's

1195
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:42,000
a good and a bad thing for us. Sorry. um

1196
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:44,000
through the chair. Absolutely. Um we

1197
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:45,679
have so the department schedule would be

1198
01:14:45,679 --> 01:14:47,040
one place to kind of get a little bit

1199
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:48,800
more of a finessed version of what that

1200
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:51,040
might look like, but typically when

1201
01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:52,800
we've done historically we've not

1202
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:55,679
budgeted or done reporting on program

1203
01:14:55,679 --> 01:14:57,199
basis, we've done it on department

1204
01:14:57,199 --> 01:15:00,080
basis. So it's not impossible to do, but

1205
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:01,600
it's a little bit more challenging based

1206
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:03,199
on the way we do the accounting in the

1207
01:15:03,199 --> 01:15:05,040
background. For example, the parks

1208
01:15:05,040 --> 01:15:07,199
department has salaries that relate to

1209
01:15:07,199 --> 01:15:09,520
all parks programs put in there, but we

1210
01:15:09,520 --> 01:15:11,920
don't break down those salaries actually

1211
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:14,320
by different functional areas within

1212
01:15:14,320 --> 01:15:15,600
there. So, that becomes a little bit

1213
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:18,400
more challenging to put the true numbers

1214
01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:21,040
to that. Not impossible, but just not

1215
01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:22,400
the way we've typically done it and

1216
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:23,920
would have to be adapted a little bit in

1217
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:25,840
the background to make that function.

1218
01:15:25,840 --> 01:15:27,920
But I do try when I'm looking at

1219
01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:29,520
something like an expense and a revenue

1220
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:31,280
that are both being adjusted to kind of

1221
01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:34,000
note that those things are fluid with

1222
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:41,510
each other and are correlated for sure.

1223
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:43,520
» CEO Cochran,

1224
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:44,870
>> thank you through the reef to all of

1225
01:15:44,870 --> 01:15:44,880
» thank you through the reef to all of

1226
01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:46,560
council. That's a great question and

1227
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:48,560
it's around what we're looking for is

1228
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:50,159
the feasibility of the service I think

1229
01:15:50,159 --> 01:15:51,679
is what you're saying is around are we

1230
01:15:51,679 --> 01:15:53,840
cost recovering or not and though that's

1231
01:15:53,840 --> 01:15:55,280
data that we're working on in the

1232
01:15:55,280 --> 01:15:57,120
background to determine and as Miss

1233
01:15:57,120 --> 01:15:59,440
Bombberg said is it's not as easy for us

1234
01:15:59,440 --> 01:16:01,280
to be definitive because my salary for

1235
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:03,360
instance CEO or director is aligned

1236
01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:05,760
across various budget lines you know a

1237
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:08,400
certain percentage but we can bring back

1238
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:11,040
uh more detailed line by line um but

1239
01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:12,719
some of our services of course aren't

1240
01:16:12,719 --> 01:16:14,320
cost recovering and they are services we

1241
01:16:14,320 --> 01:16:16,080
offer to our residents And those will be

1242
01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:17,679
discussions that council will have in

1243
01:16:17,679 --> 01:16:19,760
strategic planning around what is a

1244
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:21,199
service you want to provide at a cost

1245
01:16:21,199 --> 01:16:22,400
recovery and what do you want to

1246
01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:24,719
recover. So as we move forward as a

1247
01:16:24,719 --> 01:16:26,640
council as you move forward those those

1248
01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:28,080
determinations will come forward and

1249
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:29,360
we'll be able to adjust in the

1250
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:31,040
background. But in terms of cost

1251
01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:32,560
recovery for our services we're working

1252
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:35,280
hard to more define that trying to

1253
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:37,040
accommodate for the salary. So for

1254
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:40,320
instance a manager in parks her salary

1255
01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:42,560
is aligned across the various services.

1256
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:43,920
So, we kind of got to pick some things

1257
01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:47,120
out in order to pull it back. It's not

1258
01:16:47,120 --> 01:16:48,960
as simple as like I have a video store

1259
01:16:48,960 --> 01:16:51,040
and the staff is they work this many

1260
01:16:51,040 --> 01:16:52,480
hours. It's not as simple for us to

1261
01:16:52,480 --> 01:16:55,920
figure out as a single service line.

1262
01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:57,590
>> One of the thing one of the things that

1263
01:16:57,590 --> 01:16:57,600
» One of the thing one of the things that

1264
01:16:57,600 --> 01:16:59,840
that this is this is where line line

1265
01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:01,440
items would would come in handy for you.

1266
01:17:01,440 --> 01:17:02,719
I think that's what you're looking at.

1267
01:17:02,719 --> 01:17:04,159
The other side of the coin too is when

1268
01:17:04,159 --> 01:17:06,560
we when we do these budgets like this,

1269
01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:08,159
it's an a lot of there's a lot of

1270
01:17:08,159 --> 01:17:10,880
assumption and there's a lot of putting

1271
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:14,000
things in in grouping things, right? And

1272
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:16,880
I mean that that's where we got to have

1273
01:17:16,880 --> 01:17:18,560
a good look at stuff like that. But

1274
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:27,030
yeah, for sure

1275
01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:30,560
» we're good. I think

1276
01:17:30,560 --> 01:17:35,030
everybody good. Yeah.

1277
01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:37,600
Okay, then we move on to the summary of

1278
01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:40,239
operating budget expenses. Um, I'm going

1279
01:17:40,239 --> 01:17:41,679
to walk through each major expense

1280
01:17:41,679 --> 01:17:43,360
category in order explaining what's

1281
01:17:43,360 --> 01:17:45,040
included and the key drivers between

1282
01:17:45,040 --> 01:17:47,360
year-over-year changes. Um, again, the

1283
01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:49,280
detailed subunctions and various

1284
01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:51,199
variance explanations for each category

1285
01:17:51,199 --> 01:17:53,199
are available in the appendices.

1286
01:17:53,199 --> 01:17:54,800
Information in this section directly

1287
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:57,040
ties to appendix C. And then all the

1288
01:17:57,040 --> 01:17:59,840
appendix D's are all built into C.

1289
01:17:59,840 --> 01:18:01,679
They're just provided more detail in by

1290
01:18:01,679 --> 01:18:05,510
department.

1291
01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:07,040
So, first we look at contract and

1292
01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:09,199
general services which makes up 11% of

1293
01:18:09,199 --> 01:18:11,760
total proposed expenses. Um, this

1294
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:13,280
category includes the county's

1295
01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:14,560
externally provided and

1296
01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:16,719
organizationalwide service costs. So

1297
01:18:16,719 --> 01:18:18,480
typical items are software and IT

1298
01:18:18,480 --> 01:18:20,560
contracts, insurance, training and

1299
01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:22,159
development, repairs and maintenance for

1300
01:18:22,159 --> 01:18:24,000
buildings, vehicles and equipment,

1301
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:25,920
professional and contracted support like

1302
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:28,560
audit, engineering, legal, um

1303
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:30,560
advertising and public communications,

1304
01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:32,080
waste collection and transfer site

1305
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:34,159
arrangements and other specialized

1306
01:18:34,159 --> 01:18:35,600
services that support day-to-day

1307
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:40,310
operations across departments.

1308
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:43,120
Um, we look at so the this slide then

1309
01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:44,800
highlights the notable changes between

1310
01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:47,760
the 2025 and 2026 budgets. Training and

1311
01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:50,880
development has decreased by $70,520

1312
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:54,080
to 316,325

1313
01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:55,840
based on historical usage and a

1314
01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:57,199
reduction in the number of permanent

1315
01:18:57,199 --> 01:18:59,679
positions included in the budget.

1316
01:18:59,679 --> 01:19:01,440
Repairs and maintenance for vehicles and

1317
01:19:01,440 --> 01:19:04,480
equipment has increased by $41,500

1318
01:19:04,480 --> 01:19:06,960
to $186,000,

1319
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:08,880
reflecting higher parts and labor costs

1320
01:19:08,880 --> 01:19:12,560
expected for 2026 maintenance needs.

1321
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:14,719
Contracted support has decreased by

1322
01:19:14,719 --> 01:19:16,239
$34,200

1323
01:19:16,239 --> 01:19:19,040
to $1720

1324
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:20,880
in line with historical trends and a

1325
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:22,960
reallocation of some funding to program

1326
01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:26,000
areas delivering outcomes directly

1327
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:27,840
specifically for business retention and

1328
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:29,760
expansion.

1329
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:31,679
Advertising and public relations has

1330
01:19:31,679 --> 01:19:33,920
decreased by $73,400

1331
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:36,480
to $105,600

1332
01:19:36,480 --> 01:19:38,480
due to historical trends, service level

1333
01:19:38,480 --> 01:19:40,480
adjustments, and consolidation of

1334
01:19:40,480 --> 01:19:42,560
communication needs.

1335
01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:44,400
Campground management has increased by

1336
01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:47,760
$18,000 to $80,000 based on updated

1337
01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:49,760
updated contract terms for campground

1338
01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:51,280
operations, which support risk

1339
01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:53,440
management efforts.

1340
01:19:53,440 --> 01:19:55,280
Business retention and expansion has

1341
01:19:55,280 --> 01:19:57,679
been added at $25,500

1342
01:19:57,679 --> 01:19:59,600
to the base operating budget to continue

1343
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:02,239
the program approved in 2025. Again,

1344
01:20:02,239 --> 01:20:04,320
this is offset by reduced contracted

1345
01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:05,920
support.

1346
01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:08,480
Election costs decrease by $18,000 to

1347
01:20:08,480 --> 01:20:11,040
$3,000 because the full municipal

1348
01:20:11,040 --> 01:20:14,400
election is not required in 2026.

1349
01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:16,640
All other subunctions, minor adjustments

1350
01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:18,480
are consistent with detailed explanation

1351
01:20:18,480 --> 01:20:20,560
in the appendices.

1352
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:22,480
Together, these subline movements

1353
01:20:22,480 --> 01:20:24,320
produce the net category total of

1354
01:20:24,320 --> 01:20:27,590
$3,497,71

1355
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:31,760
with a net reduction of $106,946.

1356
01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:33,360
The decrease reflects targeted

1357
01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:34,800
reductions where historical trends

1358
01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:36,880
showed room to adjust, offset by

1359
01:20:36,880 --> 01:20:38,400
increases in areas like equipment

1360
01:20:38,400 --> 01:20:39,840
maintenance and specific service

1361
01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:43,990
contracts.

1362
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:45,440
Then we look at materials, goods,

1363
01:20:45,440 --> 01:20:47,600
supplies, and utilities, which is 15% of

1364
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:50,159
total proposed expenses.

1365
01:20:50,159 --> 01:20:52,239
This category includes uh operating

1366
01:20:52,239 --> 01:20:54,320
inputs and consumables used across the

1367
01:20:54,320 --> 01:20:56,560
organization. So it includes fuel for

1368
01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:59,280
fleet and equipment, water for resale,

1369
01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:01,280
shop and general supplies, road

1370
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:03,520
maintenance materials, utilities,

1371
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:05,199
chemicals for weed control and water

1372
01:21:05,199 --> 01:21:07,520
treatment, telephone and internet, small

1373
01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:09,360
tools and equipment, and other materials

1374
01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:10,960
required to keep services running

1375
01:21:10,960 --> 01:21:14,470
dayto-day.

1376
01:21:14,480 --> 01:21:15,440
And we look at the notable

1377
01:21:15,440 --> 01:21:17,840
year-over-year changes. Fuel increased

1378
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:21,600
by $50,000 to $1,188,000

1379
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:24,640
reflecting fuel price and usage trends.

1380
01:21:24,640 --> 01:21:27,679
Water for inseil water for resale

1381
01:21:27,679 --> 01:21:30,560
increased by $85,692

1382
01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:34,790
to1,136,683,

1383
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:36,800
aligning with supplier rate changes and

1384
01:21:36,800 --> 01:21:38,640
expected consumption for county water

1385
01:21:38,640 --> 01:21:40,320
systems.

1386
01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:43,360
Shop supplies decreased by $43,500

1387
01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:45,679
to $734,000

1388
01:21:45,679 --> 01:21:48,159
based on 2025 trending that is expected

1389
01:21:48,159 --> 01:21:50,239
to continue.

1390
01:21:50,239 --> 01:21:53,360
Power decreased by $17,589

1391
01:21:53,360 --> 01:21:56,560
to $199,68,

1392
01:21:56,560 --> 01:21:58,239
reflecting recent billing trends and

1393
01:21:58,239 --> 01:21:59,760
efficiencies.

1394
01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:03,360
Culverts decreased by $25,000 to $75,000

1395
01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:04,880
due to stocking needs based on

1396
01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:07,040
historical usage.

1397
01:22:07,040 --> 01:22:09,120
Small tools and equipment increased by

1398
01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:12,320
17,500 to $47,000.

1399
01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:14,400
The increase supports risk management by

1400
01:22:14,400 --> 01:22:16,239
maintaining the tools needed for timely

1401
01:22:16,239 --> 01:22:19,360
facility and building repairs.

1402
01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:21,360
All other subunctions decreased by

1403
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:23,920
$21,723

1404
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:28,390
to $1,545,566

1405
01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:29,840
representing minor adjustments

1406
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:31,040
consistent with the detailed

1407
01:22:31,040 --> 01:22:33,360
explanations in the appendices.

1408
01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:34,880
Together, these subline movements

1409
01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:36,560
produce the net category total of

1410
01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:40,390
$4,935,857,

1411
01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:47,990
a year-over-year increase of $45,380.

1412
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:49,679
Then we look at salaries, wages, and

1413
01:22:49,679 --> 01:22:52,400
benefits, which is 36% of total proposed

1414
01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:55,280
expenses.

1415
01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:57,600
This category includes regular wages,

1416
01:22:57,600 --> 01:22:59,600
employer cont pension and group benefit

1417
01:22:59,600 --> 01:23:02,000
contributions, statutory contributions

1418
01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:05,199
like CPP, EI and WCB,

1419
01:23:05,199 --> 01:23:06,639
seasonal staffing and council

1420
01:23:06,639 --> 01:23:10,159
renumeration, overtime and fire perdms.

1421
01:23:10,159 --> 01:23:15,120
The 2026 proposed total is 11,46,154

1422
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:19,350
which is a decrease of $451,820.

1423
01:23:19,360 --> 01:23:21,040
The primary drivers of this are the

1424
01:23:21,040 --> 01:23:23,199
elimination of positions and turnover

1425
01:23:23,199 --> 01:23:25,280
savings. partially offset by market

1426
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:27,280
merit adjustments and higher statutory

1427
01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:30,320
contribution rates.

1428
01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:32,320
So salaries themselves decreased by

1429
01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:35,199
$417,951

1430
01:23:35,199 --> 01:23:39,669
to $7,858,763

1431
01:23:39,679 --> 01:23:41,280
reflecting the elimination of three

1432
01:23:41,280 --> 01:23:43,600
positions as well as the carbon position

1433
01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:45,600
that did not proceed and savings from

1434
01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:48,080
turnover of staff. These reductions are

1435
01:23:48,080 --> 01:23:49,920
partially offset by merit and market

1436
01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:51,760
adjustments.

1437
01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:53,520
The pension contributions and benefits

1438
01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:57,120
line decreased by $153,171

1439
01:23:57,120 --> 01:24:01,750
to1565,914

1440
01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:03,600
reflecting lower contribution rates and

1441
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:06,320
the impact of reduced staffing.

1442
01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:08,080
Government contributions increased by

1443
01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:10,239
$38,543

1444
01:24:10,239 --> 01:24:13,750
to $78,535

1445
01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:15,920
driven by rate increases particularly

1446
01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:18,480
related to WCB.

1447
01:24:18,480 --> 01:24:22,320
Seasonal staff decreased by $20,575

1448
01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:25,440
to $32,938,

1449
01:24:25,440 --> 01:24:27,199
reflecting the removal of two seasonal

1450
01:24:27,199 --> 01:24:28,880
positions tied to the former paid

1451
01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:31,600
parking program.

1452
01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:34,719
Council base pay increased by $51,000 to

1453
01:24:34,719 --> 01:24:37,360
$239,400,

1454
01:24:37,360 --> 01:24:39,760
which is consistent with policy 3.1

1455
01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:42,080
updates, which included market catchup

1456
01:24:42,080 --> 01:24:45,679
approved in 2025. Council PDMs increased

1457
01:24:45,679 --> 01:24:48,000
by $52,399

1458
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:51,590
to $199,832.

1459
01:24:51,600 --> 01:24:54,639
Again, consistent with policy 3.1 market

1460
01:24:54,639 --> 01:24:57,840
catchup approved in 2025.

1461
01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:00,719
Overtime decreased by $2,65

1462
01:25:00,719 --> 01:25:04,310
to $149,772,

1463
01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:05,760
reflecting application of current

1464
01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:07,679
overtime rates to the budgeted staffing

1465
01:25:07,679 --> 01:25:10,960
levels. Fire PDMs have no change and

1466
01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:13,679
remain at $21,000.

1467
01:25:13,679 --> 01:25:16,400
Together, these adjustments prevent

1468
01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:18,080
provide a year-over-year decrease of

1469
01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:24,550
$451,820.

1470
01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:25,679
Then we look at provision for

1471
01:25:25,679 --> 01:25:27,920
allowances, which is 3% of total

1472
01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:30,639
proposed expenses. Um, this line

1473
01:25:30,639 --> 01:25:32,400
provides an annual allowance for

1474
01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:34,400
uncollectible taxes and related write-

1475
01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:36,159
offs. It is used when accounts become

1476
01:25:36,159 --> 01:25:38,639
uncollectible due to insolveny, council

1477
01:25:38,639 --> 01:25:40,639
policy decisions or assets are

1478
01:25:40,639 --> 01:25:42,159
transferred to the orphan well

1479
01:25:42,159 --> 01:25:44,719
association or when other circumstances

1480
01:25:44,719 --> 01:25:47,040
where collection is no longer feasible.

1481
01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:48,639
Maintaining this provision supports

1482
01:25:48,639 --> 01:25:51,040
prudent budgeting and avoids year in-ear

1483
01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:53,679
surprises if a writeoff is required. The

1484
01:25:53,679 --> 01:25:55,360
total proposed budget for provision for

1485
01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:57,920
allowances is $100,000 and is unchanged

1486
01:25:57,920 --> 01:26:03,030
from 2025.

1487
01:26:03,040 --> 01:26:04,639
Next, we look at purchases from other

1488
01:26:04,639 --> 01:26:06,480
governments, which is 2% of proposed

1489
01:26:06,480 --> 01:26:08,000
expenses.

1490
01:26:08,000 --> 01:26:09,600
This category includes payments and

1491
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:11,520
requisitions made to other public bodies

1492
01:26:11,520 --> 01:26:13,280
for services delivered regionally or

1493
01:26:13,280 --> 01:26:15,440
proincially. Core items are the

1494
01:26:15,440 --> 01:26:17,040
provincial policing payment, the

1495
01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:18,719
Drumheller and District Regional Waste

1496
01:26:18,719 --> 01:26:20,800
Commission requisition, the Aqua 7 water

1497
01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:22,639
commission requisition, and land title

1498
01:26:22,639 --> 01:26:25,679
fees. The 2026 proposed budget is

1499
01:26:25,679 --> 01:26:28,560
$92,713,

1500
01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:31,360
which is $117,813

1501
01:26:31,360 --> 01:26:34,159
higher than 2025. The increase is driven

1502
01:26:34,159 --> 01:26:35,840
primarily by the provincial policing

1503
01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:37,600
payment with modest increases to the

1504
01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:43,750
regional waste requisition.

1505
01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:45,360
Then we look to transfers to other

1506
01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:47,040
governments, which is 2% of total

1507
01:26:47,040 --> 01:26:49,199
proposed expenses. This category

1508
01:26:49,199 --> 01:26:50,800
includes payments for the county makes

1509
01:26:50,800 --> 01:26:52,400
to other municipalities or regional

1510
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:54,800
partners under formal agreements. The

1511
01:26:54,800 --> 01:26:57,520
primary items are ICF recreation, ICF

1512
01:26:57,520 --> 01:26:59,280
fire services, and the TROU swimming

1513
01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:02,320
pool levy transfer. The 2026 proposed

1514
01:27:02,320 --> 01:27:03,520
budget for transfers to other

1515
01:27:03,520 --> 01:27:07,189
governments is $698,145,

1516
01:27:07,199 --> 01:27:09,440
which is $65,21

1517
01:27:09,440 --> 01:27:11,600
lower than 2025.

1518
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:13,520
The decrease reflects the removal of a

1519
01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:16,639
previously unused ICF contingency.

1520
01:27:16,639 --> 01:27:18,480
Ongoing transfers include ICF

1521
01:27:18,480 --> 01:27:21,920
recreation, $348,245,

1522
01:27:21,920 --> 01:27:25,199
ICF fire services, $286,000,

1523
01:27:25,199 --> 01:27:27,199
and the Trochu swimming pool transfer of

1524
01:27:27,199 --> 01:27:32,550
$63,900.

1525
01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:34,159
Then we look

1526
01:27:34,159 --> 01:27:35,910
>> I'd like to just go back a bit on and

1527
01:27:35,910 --> 01:27:35,920
» I'd like to just go back a bit on and

1528
01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:38,080
talk about this policing.

1529
01:27:38,080 --> 01:27:39,600
um

1530
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:43,120
in in in our uh in our operating budget

1531
01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:46,000
are are are county mounties included in

1532
01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:47,520
that

1533
01:27:47,520 --> 01:27:51,360
uh salary or no separate

1534
01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:52,950
>> through the chair that is an amount that

1535
01:27:52,950 --> 01:27:52,960
» through the chair that is an amount that

1536
01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:55,280
is paid directly to the province pro for

1537
01:27:55,280 --> 01:27:58,400
provincial policing.

1538
01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:00,390
>> Okay. But in our budget that we have

1539
01:28:00,390 --> 01:28:00,400
» Okay. But in our budget that we have

1540
01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:03,280
here, the operating budget where it says

1541
01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:05,280
uh salaries and wages, are they included

1542
01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:07,360
in that?

1543
01:28:07,360 --> 01:28:08,629
>> Through the chair, the salaries and

1544
01:28:08,629 --> 01:28:08,639
» Through the chair, the salaries and

1545
01:28:08,639 --> 01:28:10,639
wages, our staff, it is

1546
01:28:10,639 --> 01:28:12,470
>> that's got nothing to do with the other

1547
01:28:12,470 --> 01:28:12,480
» that's got nothing to do with the other

1548
01:28:12,480 --> 01:28:15,199
services, the emergency services.

1549
01:28:15,199 --> 01:28:17,510
>> Well, through the chair, it's our staff

1550
01:28:17,510 --> 01:28:17,520
» Well, through the chair, it's our staff

1551
01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:19,280
are in that budget, but nothing related

1552
01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:21,120
to the province. That payment is just

1553
01:28:21,120 --> 01:28:21,440
what's

1554
01:28:21,440 --> 01:28:23,189
>> I understand that I'm talking about our

1555
01:28:23,189 --> 01:28:23,199
» I understand that I'm talking about our

1556
01:28:23,199 --> 01:28:24,719
county.

1557
01:28:24,719 --> 01:28:26,629
>> Is their wages included in our stuff

1558
01:28:26,629 --> 01:28:26,639
» Is their wages included in our stuff

1559
01:28:26,639 --> 01:28:29,600
here?

1560
01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:31,040
through the reef. Do you mean our peace

1561
01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:33,360
officers or the RCMP? Peace officers.

1562
01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:34,880
Yes, the through the RE, the peace

1563
01:28:34,880 --> 01:28:36,560
officers are included in our operating

1564
01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:38,639
staff wages. Um, anything to do with the

1565
01:28:38,639 --> 01:28:40,080
RCMP is a requirement.

1566
01:28:40,080 --> 01:28:41,510
>> Yeah, that was my question. Sorry about

1567
01:28:41,510 --> 01:28:41,520
» Yeah, that was my question. Sorry about

1568
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:44,960
that. So, I mean, with what's coming up

1569
01:28:44,960 --> 01:28:47,440
here with the uh police policing

1570
01:28:47,440 --> 01:28:49,280
increase that could get end up going

1571
01:28:49,280 --> 01:28:53,520
from zero to 30% is the forecast,

1572
01:28:53,520 --> 01:28:56,239
we're going to be paying big dollars for

1573
01:28:56,239 --> 01:28:59,520
policing potentially. Does that reflect

1574
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:02,960
the 500? Was that reflected in that 539

1575
01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:05,040
or pardon me, whatever the number was?

1576
01:29:05,040 --> 01:29:05,750
>> 592.

1577
01:29:05,750 --> 01:29:05,760
» 592.

1578
01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:06,709
>> 592.

1579
01:29:06,709 --> 01:29:06,719
» 592.

1580
01:29:06,719 --> 01:29:07,990
>> Yes. through the chair. That is the

1581
01:29:07,990 --> 01:29:08,000
» Yes. through the chair. That is the

1582
01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:09,600
amount that the province requisitions

1583
01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:11,840
and that increase is based on the best

1584
01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:13,679
information we have available to date.

1585
01:29:13,679 --> 01:29:15,360
It has not been confirmed by the

1586
01:29:15,360 --> 01:29:15,760
province.

1587
01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:17,270
>> Okay. So that's my question. That does

1588
01:29:17,270 --> 01:29:17,280
» Okay. So that's my question. That does

1589
01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:19,440
not include that the potential 30% that

1590
01:29:19,440 --> 01:29:20,639
could happen to us

1591
01:29:20,639 --> 01:29:21,990
>> uh through the chair. The increase from

1592
01:29:21,990 --> 01:29:22,000
» uh through the chair. The increase from

1593
01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:27,040
the budgeted 2025 to 479,178

1594
01:29:27,040 --> 01:29:30,320
to the increase to 592,66

1595
01:29:30,320 --> 01:29:34,790
reflects our anticipated incre.

1596
01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:36,239
It's just based on the best information

1597
01:29:36,239 --> 01:29:38,159
the province has made available to us at

1598
01:29:38,159 --> 01:29:39,040
this point.

1599
01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:42,149
>> This number does include that 30%.

1600
01:29:42,149 --> 01:29:42,159
» This number does include that 30%.

1601
01:29:42,159 --> 01:29:43,030
>> Yes.

1602
01:29:43,030 --> 01:29:43,040
» Yes.

1603
01:29:43,040 --> 01:29:45,270
>> Okay. Um the other side of the coin too

1604
01:29:45,270 --> 01:29:45,280
» Okay. Um the other side of the coin too

1605
01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:47,440
is I mean that that happening we're

1606
01:29:47,440 --> 01:29:48,960
paying a lot for policing along with

1607
01:29:48,960 --> 01:29:52,000
having our own peace officers. I'm not

1608
01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:53,679
sure that I think that's something we

1609
01:29:53,679 --> 01:29:56,719
got to look at. Like do we need all

1610
01:29:56,719 --> 01:29:59,520
this? I mean we can't get away from the

1611
01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:01,040
provincial policing. That's that's a

1612
01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:02,560
given.

1613
01:30:02,560 --> 01:30:04,239
But just a thought. Uh, councelor

1614
01:30:04,239 --> 01:30:05,600
Olsson.

1615
01:30:05,600 --> 01:30:08,870
>> Yeah, sir. Going back to uh the expense

1616
01:30:08,870 --> 01:30:08,880
» Yeah, sir. Going back to uh the expense

1617
01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:11,840
there, material goods, supplies, and

1618
01:30:11,840 --> 01:30:14,719
utilities. Like on the list, we have

1619
01:30:14,719 --> 01:30:17,280
small tools and equipment,

1620
01:30:17,280 --> 01:30:20,239
and that's like 47,000. But then under

1621
01:30:20,239 --> 01:30:23,600
other, we have a third of that expense.

1622
01:30:23,600 --> 01:30:28,480
Is this is that item all other just to

1623
01:30:28,480 --> 01:30:32,159
to uh to shorten up space on here or why

1624
01:30:32,159 --> 01:30:34,560
don't we have gravel crushing in that

1625
01:30:34,560 --> 01:30:37,360
cuz it's 750,000 yet we got small tools

1626
01:30:37,360 --> 01:30:39,679
and equipment or assist just on this

1627
01:30:39,679 --> 01:30:43,040
proposed just to save paper. I I'm not

1628
01:30:43,040 --> 01:30:45,040
sure

1629
01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:46,960
I just wondered why it was grouped like

1630
01:30:46,960 --> 01:30:49,120
that. So sorry

1631
01:30:49,120 --> 01:30:50,709
>> through the chair. Can you just under so

1632
01:30:50,709 --> 01:30:50,719
» through the chair. Can you just under so

1633
01:30:50,719 --> 01:30:52,000
materials, goods, and supplies? I just

1634
01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:53,760
want to make sure I understand exactly

1635
01:30:53,760 --> 01:30:56,800
what the question is. Um,

1636
01:30:56,800 --> 01:30:58,709
>> that's okay. Sometimes my questions

1637
01:30:58,709 --> 01:30:58,719
» that's okay. Sometimes my questions

1638
01:30:58,719 --> 01:31:00,320
aren't

1639
01:31:00,320 --> 01:31:02,880
clear.

1640
01:31:02,880 --> 01:31:05,189
>> You're okay.

1641
01:31:05,189 --> 01:31:05,199
» You're okay.

1642
01:31:05,199 --> 01:31:06,629
>> Could you What sub function?

1643
01:31:06,629 --> 01:31:06,639
» Could you What sub function?

1644
01:31:06,639 --> 01:31:10,149
>> Sorry. Sorry. No, I just uh under under

1645
01:31:10,149 --> 01:31:10,159
» Sorry. Sorry. No, I just uh under under

1646
01:31:10,159 --> 01:31:15,440
this expense the 15% or whatever um

1647
01:31:15,440 --> 01:31:19,199
like on there and uh it says all other

1648
01:31:19,199 --> 01:31:21,280
which is 1.5

1649
01:31:21,280 --> 01:31:24,639
let's it's basically a third of this 4

1650
01:31:24,639 --> 01:31:27,199
million or whatever and it says the

1651
01:31:27,199 --> 01:31:29,520
decreases reflect various expenditures

1652
01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:31,679
and adjustments for which found in

1653
01:31:31,679 --> 01:31:34,800
appendix C. When I go to appendix C,

1654
01:31:34,800 --> 01:31:37,040
then I see like gravel crushing is

1655
01:31:37,040 --> 01:31:38,800
$750,000

1656
01:31:38,800 --> 01:31:42,000
under that other. So why is it not

1657
01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:44,070
>> why does it not kick out the smallest

1658
01:31:44,070 --> 01:31:44,080
» why does it not kick out the smallest

1659
01:31:44,080 --> 01:31:47,440
tools and equipment? Uh that's only 47

1660
01:31:47,440 --> 01:31:50,470
>> or is it just for space in the

1661
01:31:50,470 --> 01:31:50,480
» or is it just for space in the

1662
01:31:50,480 --> 01:31:53,189
>> I I understand now. So um this

1663
01:31:53,189 --> 01:31:53,199
» I I understand now. So um this

1664
01:31:53,199 --> 01:31:55,360
presentation is all built on appendix C

1665
01:31:55,360 --> 01:31:58,080
is the basis for this one. And so the

1666
01:31:58,080 --> 01:31:59,600
presentation itself, what I was trying

1667
01:31:59,600 --> 01:32:01,679
to do is just highlight the items that

1668
01:32:01,679 --> 01:32:04,080
really had big fluctuations. But if you

1669
01:32:04,080 --> 01:32:05,840
look under appendix C, so for materials,

1670
01:32:05,840 --> 01:32:08,000
goods, and supplies, and utilities, I'm

1671
01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:10,639
just going to flip to the right part.

1672
01:32:10,639 --> 01:32:13,920
I've listed um

1673
01:32:13,920 --> 01:32:16,800
fuel is one item in here, and water for

1674
01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:18,800
resale is one. Shop supplies is one, and

1675
01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:20,719
then you get to general supplies. That's

1676
01:32:20,719 --> 01:32:22,719
included in that all other. Road

1677
01:32:22,719 --> 01:32:24,480
maintenance is included on in that all

1678
01:32:24,480 --> 01:32:26,560
other power has been highlighted here

1679
01:32:26,560 --> 01:32:28,480
because it had a bigger variance and

1680
01:32:28,480 --> 01:32:30,320
then weed control chemicals. So the

1681
01:32:30,320 --> 01:32:31,760
gravel crushing is actually in a

1682
01:32:31,760 --> 01:32:33,199
separate functional category and does

1683
01:32:33,199 --> 01:32:36,480
come up in this presentation. Um

1684
01:32:36,480 --> 01:32:37,760
what I was trying to do with the

1685
01:32:37,760 --> 01:32:39,600
presentation was give a consolidated

1686
01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:41,840
view of the biggest fluctuations and

1687
01:32:41,840 --> 01:32:43,600
then from that point it's up to council

1688
01:32:43,600 --> 01:32:45,760
if council wishes to go through appendix

1689
01:32:45,760 --> 01:32:48,719
C detail line by line appendix all the

1690
01:32:48,719 --> 01:32:51,199
appendix D 1 through 15 line by line

1691
01:32:51,199 --> 01:32:52,960
that is completely up to council what

1692
01:32:52,960 --> 01:32:54,719
they would like to do. Um this

1693
01:32:54,719 --> 01:32:56,560
presentation was really just intended to

1694
01:32:56,560 --> 01:32:58,560
come up to highlight the really big

1695
01:32:58,560 --> 01:33:00,400
fluctuations that have come between the

1696
01:33:00,400 --> 01:33:01,280
two budgets.

1697
01:33:01,280 --> 01:33:02,790
>> Okay. Thanks. That's kind of what I

1698
01:33:02,790 --> 01:33:02,800
» Okay. Thanks. That's kind of what I

1699
01:33:02,800 --> 01:33:05,350
>> I was

1700
01:33:05,350 --> 01:33:05,360
» I was

1701
01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:10,390
okay.

1702
01:33:10,400 --> 01:33:19,840
» Yeah. No, I was just wondering why other

1703
01:33:19,840 --> 01:33:23,520
was like a third of what that Yeah. But

1704
01:33:23,520 --> 01:33:26,320
I I thanks for the explanation,

1705
01:33:26,320 --> 01:33:27,830
>> Council Cunningham.

1706
01:33:27,830 --> 01:33:27,840
» Council Cunningham.

1707
01:33:27,840 --> 01:33:29,590
>> I just want to go back to that policing

1708
01:33:29,590 --> 01:33:29,600
» I just want to go back to that policing

1709
01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:32,320
cost. Um, one thing last term that I

1710
01:33:32,320 --> 01:33:34,000
learned that I really didn't know before

1711
01:33:34,000 --> 01:33:36,080
I sat on council was the amount of

1712
01:33:36,080 --> 01:33:37,840
provincial downloading that's happening.

1713
01:33:37,840 --> 01:33:39,679
So, I think it's really important for

1714
01:33:39,679 --> 01:33:41,679
our rateayers to be aware of that. We

1715
01:33:41,679 --> 01:33:44,239
have no control over that. That's a huge

1716
01:33:44,239 --> 01:33:46,000
increase in one year and and like you

1717
01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:47,199
say, we're trying to budget with a

1718
01:33:47,199 --> 01:33:49,280
number we don't even know what it's

1719
01:33:49,280 --> 01:33:51,600
going to be. Has the province given us

1720
01:33:51,600 --> 01:33:54,320
any any indication of what month we're

1721
01:33:54,320 --> 01:33:57,199
looking at or No. Okay. Well, that's

1722
01:33:57,199 --> 01:33:59,679
helpful. So that's that's a good topic

1723
01:33:59,679 --> 01:34:02,080
for RMA. Um and maybe this is an

1724
01:34:02,080 --> 01:34:03,520
appendex E, but I just want to go back

1725
01:34:03,520 --> 01:34:05,679
to those expenses, material, goods, and

1726
01:34:05,679 --> 01:34:08,880
supplies. 734,000

1727
01:34:08,880 --> 01:34:12,239
in shop supplies. Um is it a are we able

1728
01:34:12,239 --> 01:34:14,159
to get a more detailed breakdown of that

1729
01:34:14,159 --> 01:34:16,719
or is that am I missing that somewhere

1730
01:34:16,719 --> 01:34:17,199
in here?

1731
01:34:17,199 --> 01:34:23,030
>> This is what we need to look at

1732
01:34:23,040 --> 01:34:24,400
» through the chair. So, the detail in

1733
01:34:24,400 --> 01:34:26,480
appendix C for shop supplies on that

1734
01:34:26,480 --> 01:34:28,960
item includes parts for servicing and

1735
01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:30,639
maintaining all county vehicles and

1736
01:34:30,639 --> 01:34:32,239
equipment as well as small specialty

1737
01:34:32,239 --> 01:34:35,520
tools. includes $419,000 for parts,

1738
01:34:35,520 --> 01:34:38,480
$100,000 for tires, $100,000 for bulk

1739
01:34:38,480 --> 01:34:42,159
oil, $55,000 for specialty tools,

1740
01:34:42,159 --> 01:34:45,199
$25,000 for consumables, $20,000 for

1741
01:34:45,199 --> 01:34:47,600
batteries, um emergency management kit

1742
01:34:47,600 --> 01:34:49,360
supplies, hand signs and ladders for

1743
01:34:49,360 --> 01:34:51,840
peace officer vehicles, signs, first aid

1744
01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:53,760
kits, fire extinguisher for fire chief

1745
01:34:53,760 --> 01:34:55,360
vehicle, and spraying equipment parts

1746
01:34:55,360 --> 01:34:57,920
and materials.

1747
01:34:57,920 --> 01:35:00,800
So that's in appendix C on page nine of

1748
01:35:00,800 --> 01:35:02,800
appendix C.

1749
01:35:02,800 --> 01:35:11,990
the second line of data.

1750
01:35:12,000 --> 01:35:13,440
If you like, I can pull it up on the

1751
01:35:13,440 --> 01:35:17,120
screen, too. I have all the appendices.

1752
01:35:17,120 --> 01:35:18,470
>> That would be awesome. Thank you.

1753
01:35:18,470 --> 01:35:18,480
» That would be awesome. Thank you.

1754
01:35:18,480 --> 01:36:47,270
>> Absolutely.

1755
01:36:47,280 --> 01:36:53,270
Any

1756
01:36:53,280 --> 01:36:55,600
other questions so far? You you okay,

1757
01:36:55,600 --> 01:36:56,480
Council Olsson?

1758
01:36:56,480 --> 01:36:58,470
>> Yes.

1759
01:36:58,470 --> 01:36:58,480
» Yes.

1760
01:36:58,480 --> 01:37:02,070
>> Carry on.

1761
01:37:02,080 --> 01:37:03,840
» I promise I did my best to try and make

1762
01:37:03,840 --> 01:37:05,760
those appendices as accessible as

1763
01:37:05,760 --> 01:37:07,520
possible. There's a lot of data and it

1764
01:37:07,520 --> 01:37:07,920
is

1765
01:37:07,920 --> 01:37:09,189
>> well one of the things one of the things

1766
01:37:09,189 --> 01:37:09,199
» well one of the things one of the things

1767
01:37:09,199 --> 01:37:11,040
you got to remember too is I mean half

1768
01:37:11,040 --> 01:37:13,119
of this stuff is what we present to or

1769
01:37:13,119 --> 01:37:15,520
what was presented to us as rateayers

1770
01:37:15,520 --> 01:37:17,760
without the line items.

1771
01:37:17,760 --> 01:37:20,390
>> So I mean it's real hard when I was

1772
01:37:20,390 --> 01:37:20,400
» So I mean it's real hard when I was

1773
01:37:20,400 --> 01:37:22,000
trying to before I was a counselor

1774
01:37:22,000 --> 01:37:24,000
trying to figure out and break down each

1775
01:37:24,000 --> 01:37:26,400
one of these general budgets because

1776
01:37:26,400 --> 01:37:28,480
there's so much stuff in in them that

1777
01:37:28,480 --> 01:37:30,320
that isn't being reported and lots of

1778
01:37:30,320 --> 01:37:32,800
stuff can get hidden in them, right? So

1779
01:37:32,800 --> 01:37:34,800
there is a lot of stuff here that we

1780
01:37:34,800 --> 01:37:41,189
need to look at. So thanks.

1781
01:37:41,199 --> 01:37:46,480
» Okay. Are we good to continue? Okay.

1782
01:37:46,480 --> 01:37:52,790
Did this one. Um,

1783
01:37:52,800 --> 01:37:56,000
okay. I think we left off here. If I

1784
01:37:56,000 --> 01:37:58,159
remember correctly, my apologies.

1785
01:37:58,159 --> 01:37:59,440
Transfers to individuals and

1786
01:37:59,440 --> 01:38:01,760
organizations makes up about 1% of total

1787
01:38:01,760 --> 01:38:04,480
proposed expenses. So this category

1788
01:38:04,480 --> 01:38:06,080
includes grants and contributions the

1789
01:38:06,080 --> 01:38:07,840
county provides to community groups and

1790
01:38:07,840 --> 01:38:09,440
initiatives under council approved

1791
01:38:09,440 --> 01:38:11,679
policies for community halls, youth

1792
01:38:11,679 --> 01:38:13,679
sponsorships, arts and culture arena

1793
01:38:13,679 --> 01:38:15,840
operations along with other council

1794
01:38:15,840 --> 01:38:17,520
directed programs delivered through

1795
01:38:17,520 --> 01:38:18,960
formal motions and established

1796
01:38:18,960 --> 01:38:20,719
programming.

1797
01:38:20,719 --> 01:38:22,800
The 2026 proposed budgets for transfers

1798
01:38:22,800 --> 01:38:24,639
to individuals and organizations is

1799
01:38:24,639 --> 01:38:27,199
$280,57

1800
01:38:27,199 --> 01:38:30,960
which is $40,500 lower than 2025. The

1801
01:38:30,960 --> 01:38:32,960
decrease reflects a reduction to council

1802
01:38:32,960 --> 01:38:34,800
directed support, the reallocation of

1803
01:38:34,800 --> 01:38:36,880
the grant writer program to FCSS, which

1804
01:38:36,880 --> 01:38:38,719
is now shown under transfers to local

1805
01:38:38,719 --> 01:38:40,880
boards and agencies, and the removal of

1806
01:38:40,880 --> 01:38:42,639
the cemeteries grant due to lack of

1807
01:38:42,639 --> 01:38:46,950
program uptake.

1808
01:38:46,960 --> 01:38:48,400
Then we look at transfers to local

1809
01:38:48,400 --> 01:38:50,719
boards and agencies, which makes up 4%

1810
01:38:50,719 --> 01:38:53,119
of total proposed expenses. This

1811
01:38:53,119 --> 01:38:54,400
category includes the county's

1812
01:38:54,400 --> 01:38:56,000
contributions to external boards and

1813
01:38:56,000 --> 01:38:57,920
agencies that deliver community services

1814
01:38:57,920 --> 01:39:00,400
on a regional basis. The two items in

1815
01:39:00,400 --> 01:39:02,159
this category are family and community

1816
01:39:02,159 --> 01:39:04,560
support services or FCSS and

1817
01:39:04,560 --> 01:39:06,320
participation in the Maragold library

1818
01:39:06,320 --> 01:39:09,280
system. The 2026 proposed budget is

1819
01:39:09,280 --> 01:39:12,000
$152,356

1820
01:39:12,000 --> 01:39:14,239
which is $16,890

1821
01:39:14,239 --> 01:39:16,800
higher than 2025. The increase is

1822
01:39:16,800 --> 01:39:18,320
primarily due to shifting the grant

1823
01:39:18,320 --> 01:39:20,719
writer program to FCSS to better align

1824
01:39:20,719 --> 01:39:22,239
the service with community support

1825
01:39:22,239 --> 01:39:26,470
delivery.

1826
01:39:26,480 --> 01:39:27,920
Then we look at contributions to

1827
01:39:27,920 --> 01:39:30,320
reserves which make up 29% of total

1828
01:39:30,320 --> 01:39:36,790
expenses for a total of 9,137,542.

1829
01:39:36,800 --> 01:39:38,480
This category represents the county's

1830
01:39:38,480 --> 01:39:40,159
plan transfers into reserves that

1831
01:39:40,159 --> 01:39:43,119
support long-term sustainability.

1832
01:39:43,119 --> 01:39:45,280
These contributions ensure that onetime

1833
01:39:45,280 --> 01:39:47,119
capital replacements and risk management

1834
01:39:47,119 --> 01:39:48,480
needs are funded without placing

1835
01:39:48,480 --> 01:39:51,119
pressure on the annual operating budget.

1836
01:39:51,119 --> 01:39:55,119
The proposed budget is $143,16

1837
01:39:55,119 --> 01:39:58,400
lower than 2025. The decrease is due to

1838
01:39:58,400 --> 01:40:00,719
the expiry of a water collection levy,

1839
01:40:00,719 --> 01:40:02,320
which reduces the contribution to the

1840
01:40:02,320 --> 01:40:04,560
water reserve. Base and capital

1841
01:40:04,560 --> 01:40:06,480
equipment plan contributions continue at

1842
01:40:06,480 --> 01:40:08,239
planned levels to maintain responsible

1843
01:40:08,239 --> 01:40:10,000
funding for future capital and system

1844
01:40:10,000 --> 01:40:13,189
renewal.

1845
01:40:13,199 --> 01:40:14,960
And then lastly, within operating

1846
01:40:14,960 --> 01:40:17,040
functional areas and expenses, there's

1847
01:40:17,040 --> 01:40:18,960
gravel or inventory projects, which is

1848
01:40:18,960 --> 01:40:21,760
2% of total proposed expenses. This

1849
01:40:21,760 --> 01:40:23,679
category represents the county's annual

1850
01:40:23,679 --> 01:40:25,280
allocation for gravel crushing at the

1851
01:40:25,280 --> 01:40:27,600
Torington gravel pit. The crushed gravel

1852
01:40:27,600 --> 01:40:29,040
is added to inventory and used

1853
01:40:29,040 --> 01:40:30,239
throughout the year for maintenance of

1854
01:40:30,239 --> 01:40:32,239
the gravel road network. This ensures

1855
01:40:32,239 --> 01:40:34,000
that road crews have reliable access to

1856
01:40:34,000 --> 01:40:35,600
material when needed and that the county

1857
01:40:35,600 --> 01:40:37,280
maintains consistent service levels

1858
01:40:37,280 --> 01:40:39,840
across its rural road system. The

1859
01:40:39,840 --> 01:40:41,520
proposed budget is unchanged at

1860
01:40:41,520 --> 01:40:43,119
$750,000.

1861
01:40:43,119 --> 01:40:44,880
This stable allocation supports

1862
01:40:44,880 --> 01:40:46,480
predictable road maintenance operations

1863
01:40:46,480 --> 01:40:48,400
and continues the county's program of

1864
01:40:48,400 --> 01:40:50,159
maintaining adequate inventory each

1865
01:40:50,159 --> 01:40:51,679
year.

1866
01:40:51,679 --> 01:40:53,679
That concludes the component on the

1867
01:40:53,679 --> 01:40:56,400
operating budget. Um before I move on to

1868
01:40:56,400 --> 01:40:58,080
three-year operating forecast, are there

1869
01:40:58,080 --> 01:41:04,950
any questions?

1870
01:41:04,960 --> 01:41:08,870
» Think we're good.

1871
01:41:08,880 --> 01:41:10,400
So, next we look at the three-year

1872
01:41:10,400 --> 01:41:12,960
operating forecast. Um, the financial

1873
01:41:12,960 --> 01:41:14,800
forecast is a forward-looking tool that

1874
01:41:14,800 --> 01:41:16,480
helps council anticipate future

1875
01:41:16,480 --> 01:41:18,719
financial trends and challenges. The

1876
01:41:18,719 --> 01:41:20,400
municipal government act requires the

1877
01:41:20,400 --> 01:41:22,000
county to approve a three-year operating

1878
01:41:22,000 --> 01:41:23,920
forecast and a 5-year capital forecast

1879
01:41:23,920 --> 01:41:26,000
each year. This presentation includes

1880
01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:27,760
the three-year operating forecast. The

1881
01:41:27,760 --> 01:41:29,199
capital forecast was presented to

1882
01:41:29,199 --> 01:41:31,920
council on November 25th. Forecasts

1883
01:41:31,920 --> 01:41:33,520
provide a big picture view of upcoming

1884
01:41:33,520 --> 01:41:35,520
financial trends, major projects, and

1885
01:41:35,520 --> 01:41:37,600
potential pressures. It's important to

1886
01:41:37,600 --> 01:41:39,199
note that forecasts are not budgets.

1887
01:41:39,199 --> 01:41:40,560
They do not give administration

1888
01:41:40,560 --> 01:41:42,239
authority to spend funds. They are for

1889
01:41:42,239 --> 01:41:45,280
planning and decision-making only.

1890
01:41:45,280 --> 01:41:47,280
Forecasts help council look ahead, spot

1891
01:41:47,280 --> 01:41:48,719
risks early, and make informed

1892
01:41:48,719 --> 01:41:50,639
decisions.

1893
01:41:50,639 --> 01:41:52,639
So, why does a forecast matter? Again,

1894
01:41:52,639 --> 01:41:54,320
it's essential for long-term financial

1895
01:41:54,320 --> 01:41:56,320
sustainability and strategic alignment.

1896
01:41:56,320 --> 01:41:57,760
It gives council a view beyond the

1897
01:41:57,760 --> 01:41:59,360
annual budget, helping to plan for

1898
01:41:59,360 --> 01:42:01,679
future needs and challenges. They help

1899
01:42:01,679 --> 01:42:03,520
manage reserves, debt, and the impact of

1900
01:42:03,520 --> 01:42:05,840
tax changes more effectively. They build

1901
01:42:05,840 --> 01:42:07,840
transparency and confidence in financial

1902
01:42:07,840 --> 01:42:10,639
decision-making for both council and the

1903
01:42:10,639 --> 01:42:12,719
public. By looking ahead, council can

1904
01:42:12,719 --> 01:42:14,719
make proactive choices, avoid surprises,

1905
01:42:14,719 --> 01:42:16,000
and ensure the county remains

1906
01:42:16,000 --> 01:42:18,960
financially healthy. Again, for

1907
01:42:18,960 --> 01:42:20,400
forecasting is a cornerstone of

1908
01:42:20,400 --> 01:42:22,159
responsible municipal governance. It

1909
01:42:22,159 --> 01:42:23,760
helps support informed decisions,

1910
01:42:23,760 --> 01:42:25,600
protect service levels, and help council

1911
01:42:25,600 --> 01:42:29,199
deliver on long-term goals.

1912
01:42:29,199 --> 01:42:30,880
This slide highlights the key revenue

1913
01:42:30,880 --> 01:42:32,239
trends in the three-year operating

1914
01:42:32,239 --> 01:42:34,719
forecast. So what's been included is how

1915
01:42:34,719 --> 01:42:36,719
major revenue categories are expected to

1916
01:42:36,719 --> 01:42:38,480
change based on current policies,

1917
01:42:38,480 --> 01:42:40,719
historical activity, and known program

1918
01:42:40,719 --> 01:42:42,639
adjustments. It focuses on the

1919
01:42:42,639 --> 01:42:44,080
categories where movements are most

1920
01:42:44,080 --> 01:42:48,159
material from 2027 to 2729.

1921
01:42:48,159 --> 01:42:50,960
Um growth of goods and services has a

1922
01:42:50,960 --> 01:42:53,760
forecasted increase of 3.66%.

1923
01:42:53,760 --> 01:42:55,600
Um, growth reflects trendbased changes

1924
01:42:55,600 --> 01:42:57,440
in user fee areas such as water

1925
01:42:57,440 --> 01:42:59,600
distribution and bulk water activity,

1926
01:42:59,600 --> 01:43:02,000
campground fees following the 2026 base

1927
01:43:02,000 --> 01:43:03,679
adjustment, and service-based fees that

1928
01:43:03,679 --> 01:43:05,920
move with utilization. No new rate

1929
01:43:05,920 --> 01:43:08,000
assumptions are included unless directly

1930
01:43:08,000 --> 01:43:10,320
indicated by council. So, for example,

1931
01:43:10,320 --> 01:43:12,400
if council had a strategy on water rates

1932
01:43:12,400 --> 01:43:13,920
for the next few years, those would be

1933
01:43:13,920 --> 01:43:15,679
reflected. But unless that strategy

1934
01:43:15,679 --> 01:43:18,080
exists, we only adjust based on usage,

1935
01:43:18,080 --> 01:43:20,560
not on rate adjustments.

1936
01:43:20,560 --> 01:43:22,560
Rental income has a forecasted increase

1937
01:43:22,560 --> 01:43:25,760
of 1.0. 06% moderate growth aligns with

1938
01:43:25,760 --> 01:43:27,840
existing lease and rental agreements as

1939
01:43:27,840 --> 01:43:29,360
they adjust over time under current

1940
01:43:29,360 --> 01:43:31,280
terms. No structural change is assumed

1941
01:43:31,280 --> 01:43:34,080
in the forecast window. And then SP

1942
01:43:34,080 --> 01:43:36,239
special taxes and frontage has a

1943
01:43:36,239 --> 01:43:40,159
forecasted decrease of 31 34.19%.

1944
01:43:40,159 --> 01:43:42,480
Um the decline reflects the expiry of

1945
01:43:42,480 --> 01:43:44,320
time limited water connection levies.

1946
01:43:44,320 --> 01:43:46,159
The remaining revenues relate primarily

1947
01:43:46,159 --> 01:43:49,760
to the TRU swimming pool levy.

1948
01:43:49,760 --> 01:43:51,760
These trend drivers are directional and

1949
01:43:51,760 --> 01:43:53,280
align with the principles used in the

1950
01:43:53,280 --> 01:43:55,119
detailed schedules. They help illustrate

1951
01:43:55,119 --> 01:43:57,440
where revenues are likely to move. The

1952
01:43:57,440 --> 01:43:59,440
forecast is updated annually to reflect

1953
01:43:59,440 --> 01:44:01,360
council direction, assessment outcomes,

1954
01:44:01,360 --> 01:44:06,229
and any adjustments to fees or programs.

1955
01:44:06,239 --> 01:44:08,560
Then we look at expense trend drivers.

1956
01:44:08,560 --> 01:44:11,040
Um again, what's included is how major

1957
01:44:11,040 --> 01:44:12,639
expense categories are expected to

1958
01:44:12,639 --> 01:44:14,400
change based on current contracts,

1959
01:44:14,400 --> 01:44:16,080
historical consumption, and known

1960
01:44:16,080 --> 01:44:18,320
pressures. It focuses on the categories

1961
01:44:18,320 --> 01:44:20,560
with the largest influence on the 2027

1962
01:44:20,560 --> 01:44:23,600
to 2029 outlook.

1963
01:44:23,600 --> 01:44:25,679
We've got a forecasted increase in G

1964
01:44:25,679 --> 01:44:29,280
contract and general services of 6.73%.

1965
01:44:29,280 --> 01:44:30,960
Growth is driven by insurance renewal

1966
01:44:30,960 --> 01:44:32,639
pressures, major maintenance for aging

1967
01:44:32,639 --> 01:44:34,560
facilities and assets, and IT or

1968
01:44:34,560 --> 01:44:36,480
software contracts that escalate under

1969
01:44:36,480 --> 01:44:38,800
multi-year agreements.

1970
01:44:38,800 --> 01:44:40,159
Materials, goods, supplies, and

1971
01:44:40,159 --> 01:44:42,000
utilities has a forecasted increase of

1972
01:44:42,000 --> 01:44:46,080
2.94% by 2029. Moderate growth reflects

1973
01:44:46,080 --> 01:44:48,159
fuel, operating supplies, water for

1974
01:44:48,159 --> 01:44:50,000
resale, and utility costs that track

1975
01:44:50,000 --> 01:44:52,719
market pricing and system usage.

1976
01:44:52,719 --> 01:44:54,480
Salaries, wages, and benefits has a

1977
01:44:54,480 --> 01:44:57,520
forecasted increase of 6.41%.

1978
01:44:57,520 --> 01:44:59,840
This line assumes a flat policy based

1979
01:44:59,840 --> 01:45:01,920
escalation consistent with recent budget

1980
01:45:01,920 --> 01:45:04,080
cycles, capturing expected market merit

1981
01:45:04,080 --> 01:45:06,639
adjustments um and statutory

1982
01:45:06,639 --> 01:45:08,800
contribution changes over time. So this

1983
01:45:08,800 --> 01:45:10,480
one is one where we've literally just

1984
01:45:10,480 --> 01:45:13,679
applied a similar an average change

1985
01:45:13,679 --> 01:45:15,760
number to that number for the next few

1986
01:45:15,760 --> 01:45:18,719
years completely fluctuates based on

1987
01:45:18,719 --> 01:45:21,440
council direction each year.

1988
01:45:21,440 --> 01:45:22,960
Contributions to reserve has a

1989
01:45:22,960 --> 01:45:25,920
forecasted slight decrease of.36%

1990
01:45:25,920 --> 01:45:27,920
um is a movement reflecting the expiry

1991
01:45:27,920 --> 01:45:29,760
of time limited levies and maintaining

1992
01:45:29,760 --> 01:45:31,840
core contributions.

1993
01:45:31,840 --> 01:45:34,480
Again these trends reflect current

1994
01:45:34,480 --> 01:45:36,800
policy and service levels. council can

1995
01:45:36,800 --> 01:45:38,560
adjust them during budget cycles as

1996
01:45:38,560 --> 01:45:40,239
better information becomes available and

1997
01:45:40,239 --> 01:45:42,159
then they're consequently upgradated by

1998
01:45:42,159 --> 01:45:45,990
administration.

1999
01:45:46,000 --> 01:45:48,080
Then we look at how the consolidated

2000
01:45:48,080 --> 01:45:50,159
forecast for the tough revenues,

2001
01:45:50,159 --> 01:45:52,000
expenses, and the annual shortfall from

2002
01:45:52,000 --> 01:45:55,520
the 2027 to 2029 planning window. Um

2003
01:45:55,520 --> 01:45:57,280
what it's showing is revenues are moving

2004
01:45:57,280 --> 01:45:59,440
gradually with trends based changes in

2005
01:45:59,440 --> 01:46:01,920
user fees and program lines holding tax

2006
01:46:01,920 --> 01:46:04,239
levy assumptions flat until council sets

2007
01:46:04,239 --> 01:46:07,040
tax policy. Expenses reflect the trend

2008
01:46:07,040 --> 01:46:08,880
drivers you just saw in contracted

2009
01:46:08,880 --> 01:46:10,560
services, materials, utilities,

2010
01:46:10,560 --> 01:46:12,080
compensation, and planned reserve

2011
01:46:12,080 --> 01:46:14,080
contributions. The difference between

2012
01:46:14,080 --> 01:46:16,080
the two lines shows a shortfall that

2013
01:46:16,080 --> 01:46:18,639
grow that grows if no policy, service or

2014
01:46:18,639 --> 01:46:21,199
fa phasing actions are taken. So, we're

2015
01:46:21,199 --> 01:46:22,880
looking at 2029 based on current

2016
01:46:22,880 --> 01:46:27,270
trending of shortfall of $876,545.

2017
01:46:27,280 --> 01:46:28,560
Again, this is just based on the

2018
01:46:28,560 --> 01:46:30,239
information that administration has

2019
01:46:30,239 --> 01:46:32,800
available and those get adjusted as

2020
01:46:32,800 --> 01:46:34,639
council sets more direction and we can

2021
01:46:34,639 --> 01:46:40,790
further refine those numbers.

2022
01:46:40,800 --> 01:46:44,159
Okay. Um, the next piece is a budget

2023
01:46:44,159 --> 01:46:46,000
overview which takes the operating

2024
01:46:46,000 --> 01:46:48,320
budget presented today, the pre-approval

2025
01:46:48,320 --> 01:46:50,320
projects done in September, and the

2026
01:46:50,320 --> 01:46:52,000
proposed projects presented to council

2027
01:46:52,000 --> 01:46:54,400
in November and puts it all together.

2028
01:46:54,400 --> 01:46:55,920
Before I move on, are there any

2029
01:46:55,920 --> 01:47:02,870
questions from council?

2030
01:47:02,880 --> 01:47:08,790
Good to go.

2031
01:47:08,800 --> 01:47:11,920
Okay, so this again this overview now

2032
01:47:11,920 --> 01:47:13,600
consolidates basically at this point

2033
01:47:13,600 --> 01:47:15,280
council's been presented with proposed

2034
01:47:15,280 --> 01:47:17,440
projects and and the proposed operating

2035
01:47:17,440 --> 01:47:19,600
budget at a high level. And this just

2036
01:47:19,600 --> 01:47:21,199
summarizes everything that's been

2037
01:47:21,199 --> 01:47:23,679
included in the proposed budget to date.

2038
01:47:23,679 --> 01:47:25,280
So this slide shows a summary of the

2039
01:47:25,280 --> 01:47:27,119
proposed operating budget. At this point

2040
01:47:27,119 --> 01:47:28,880
in time, we're looking at a surplus of

2041
01:47:28,880 --> 01:47:34,070
$139,683.

2042
01:47:34,080 --> 01:47:35,600
Then we have the pre-approval project

2043
01:47:35,600 --> 01:47:37,199
listing which includes the capital

2044
01:47:37,199 --> 01:47:41,669
equipment plan which was $5,256,000.

2045
01:47:41,679 --> 01:47:43,119
This includes fleet and equipment

2046
01:47:43,119 --> 01:47:44,800
replacements that have reached end of

2047
01:47:44,800 --> 01:47:46,560
life and are required to maintain safe

2048
01:47:46,560 --> 01:47:48,800
reliable delivery. This includes pickup

2049
01:47:48,800 --> 01:47:50,960
trucks, seasonal rentals, graders, a

2050
01:47:50,960 --> 01:47:53,199
loader, a semi-truck, an end dump, a

2051
01:47:53,199 --> 01:47:55,520
plow truck, a fire engine, and essential

2052
01:47:55,520 --> 01:47:57,440
shop and ground equipment like a mower,

2053
01:47:57,440 --> 01:47:59,679
chipper, and pressure washer.

2054
01:47:59,679 --> 01:48:01,520
These replacements keep downtime low,

2055
01:48:01,520 --> 01:48:03,119
support winter and road maintenance, and

2056
01:48:03,119 --> 01:48:04,960
ensure frontline and emergency services

2057
01:48:04,960 --> 01:48:07,280
have dependable equipment.

2058
01:48:07,280 --> 01:48:09,760
Then we have budget for phased projects.

2059
01:48:09,760 --> 01:48:13,199
One is bridge file 13480

2060
01:48:13,199 --> 01:48:16,400
which is has a budget of $3,520,000

2061
01:48:16,400 --> 01:48:19,040
which is funded for $880,000 from the

2062
01:48:19,040 --> 01:48:22,400
roads reserve and $2,640,000

2063
01:48:22,400 --> 01:48:24,560
for a stip grant. This is one where the

2064
01:48:24,560 --> 01:48:26,800
counties applied for stip grant funding.

2065
01:48:26,800 --> 01:48:28,480
If that funding is not approved, this

2066
01:48:28,480 --> 01:48:30,400
project will not proceed because there

2067
01:48:30,400 --> 01:48:32,239
is not the funding available as approved

2068
01:48:32,239 --> 01:48:34,639
by council. Then there's Hamlet

2069
01:48:34,639 --> 01:48:39,109
infrastructure upgrades for $1,650,000.

2070
01:48:39,119 --> 01:48:41,360
The Lynen Road pavement overlay for

2071
01:48:41,360 --> 01:48:43,920
$4,39,000.

2072
01:48:43,920 --> 01:48:46,560
Um a covert replacement on Township Road

2073
01:48:46,560 --> 01:48:50,239
304 for $1,430,000.

2074
01:48:50,239 --> 01:48:52,239
The road rural road stabilization

2075
01:48:52,239 --> 01:48:55,910
program for $4125,000.

2076
01:48:55,920 --> 01:48:58,400
$412,500,

2077
01:48:58,400 --> 01:49:01,679
major bridge maintenance for $242,000,

2078
01:49:01,679 --> 01:49:03,600
and then operating projects including

2079
01:49:03,600 --> 01:49:05,119
the gravel purchase program for

2080
01:49:05,119 --> 01:49:08,000
$2,695,000,

2081
01:49:08,000 --> 01:49:11,520
ERP implementation for $560,000,

2082
01:49:11,520 --> 01:49:13,280
the regional SCADA master plan for

2083
01:49:13,280 --> 01:49:16,000
$220,000, which is anticipated to be

2084
01:49:16,000 --> 01:49:18,159
funded through the ACB grant. Again, if

2085
01:49:18,159 --> 01:49:19,679
that grant is not approved, that project

2086
01:49:19,679 --> 01:49:21,760
will not proceed.

2087
01:49:21,760 --> 01:49:23,040
And then there's one operating

2088
01:49:23,040 --> 01:49:24,239
initiative which is a three-year

2089
01:49:24,239 --> 01:49:26,000
economic development tourism and

2090
01:49:26,000 --> 01:49:31,030
marketing strategy for $38,500.

2091
01:49:31,040 --> 01:49:32,800
And then we look at the proposed project

2092
01:49:32,800 --> 01:49:34,800
listing. So these are projects that the

2093
01:49:34,800 --> 01:49:36,239
previous slide are projects that have

2094
01:49:36,239 --> 01:49:38,719
been approved by council. These are

2095
01:49:38,719 --> 01:49:40,000
proposed projects that have been

2096
01:49:40,000 --> 01:49:41,920
included that were presented in November

2097
01:49:41,920 --> 01:49:44,880
and are being proposed um for approval

2098
01:49:44,880 --> 01:49:46,719
to be brought back at the February 10th

2099
01:49:46,719 --> 01:49:48,560
meeting for approval to in order to

2100
01:49:48,560 --> 01:49:51,920
facilitate initiation of work.

2101
01:49:51,920 --> 01:49:53,600
Um, under maintenance of existing

2102
01:49:53,600 --> 01:49:55,440
assets, there's the roads in need annual

2103
01:49:55,440 --> 01:49:58,159
program for $275,000,

2104
01:49:58,159 --> 01:49:59,840
which is to address deteriorating

2105
01:49:59,840 --> 01:50:01,840
segments of rural roadways ways that

2106
01:50:01,840 --> 01:50:04,880
require urgent attention. The 2026 work

2107
01:50:04,880 --> 01:50:06,719
focuses on feasibility studies and

2108
01:50:06,719 --> 01:50:08,159
design so that the county would be

2109
01:50:08,159 --> 01:50:11,199
shovel ready ready for future upgrades.

2110
01:50:11,199 --> 01:50:14,159
There's a tower project for $187,000

2111
01:50:14,159 --> 01:50:15,760
to be funded from the infrastructure

2112
01:50:15,760 --> 01:50:18,400
reserve. Um, and this is to dispose or

2113
01:50:18,400 --> 01:50:20,159
maintain of our five legacy

2114
01:50:20,159 --> 01:50:21,920
communication towers which are no longer

2115
01:50:21,920 --> 01:50:24,639
being used for emergency services. The

2116
01:50:24,639 --> 01:50:27,040
scope includes dismantling unused towers

2117
01:50:27,040 --> 01:50:28,960
and repairs or maintenance for ones

2118
01:50:28,960 --> 01:50:34,950
still supporting regional broadband.

2119
01:50:34,960 --> 01:50:37,040
Then we have admin and FCSS parking lot

2120
01:50:37,040 --> 01:50:39,920
repairs for $85,300

2121
01:50:39,920 --> 01:50:41,280
funded from the capital building

2122
01:50:41,280 --> 01:50:43,520
replacement reserve. um complete

2123
01:50:43,520 --> 01:50:45,040
concrete and safety improvements at the

2124
01:50:45,040 --> 01:50:46,560
Nihill County Administration and Three

2125
01:50:46,560 --> 01:50:48,800
Hills FCSS parking lots, including curb

2126
01:50:48,800 --> 01:50:50,320
replacement, rubber wheel stops for

2127
01:50:50,320 --> 01:50:54,000
visibility, and traffic control signage.

2128
01:50:54,000 --> 01:50:55,679
Then under replacement of existing

2129
01:50:55,679 --> 01:50:57,040
assets, there's overhead door

2130
01:50:57,040 --> 01:51:00,560
replacement and repairs for $140,300

2131
01:51:00,560 --> 01:51:02,560
funded from the capital building replace

2132
01:51:02,560 --> 01:51:05,199
building capital replacement reserve.

2133
01:51:05,199 --> 01:51:07,119
This is replacing priority overhead

2134
01:51:07,119 --> 01:51:08,960
doors and components across facilities

2135
01:51:08,960 --> 01:51:10,800
where inspections identified structural

2136
01:51:10,800 --> 01:51:14,239
or mechanical concerns.

2137
01:51:14,239 --> 01:51:17,040
Then there's the threehole south gate

2138
01:51:17,040 --> 01:51:18,880
replacement um and security control

2139
01:51:18,880 --> 01:51:21,199
upgrades for $88,000 funded from the

2140
01:51:21,199 --> 01:51:23,440
building capital replacement reserve.

2141
01:51:23,440 --> 01:51:24,960
This is to replace the south gate

2142
01:51:24,960 --> 01:51:27,440
operation um and keypad access controls

2143
01:51:27,440 --> 01:51:29,520
at the maintenance shop. Um, as the

2144
01:51:29,520 --> 01:51:32,239
system is at the end of its useful life,

2145
01:51:32,239 --> 01:51:33,760
there's heater replacements at the old

2146
01:51:33,760 --> 01:51:36,400
Three Hills shop for $61,600

2147
01:51:36,400 --> 01:51:38,159
to be funded from the capital building

2148
01:51:38,159 --> 01:51:40,400
capital replacement reserve. This is the

2149
01:51:40,400 --> 01:51:42,239
replacement of five radiant tube heaters

2150
01:51:42,239 --> 01:51:44,480
and one forced air furnace due to

2151
01:51:44,480 --> 01:51:46,239
failures, physical damage, and end of

2152
01:51:46,239 --> 01:51:47,840
life.

2153
01:51:47,840 --> 01:51:49,520
There's the body cam system replacement

2154
01:51:49,520 --> 01:51:52,159
for $60,000 to be funded from the

2155
01:51:52,159 --> 01:51:54,480
transitional fund reserve. This is to

2156
01:51:54,480 --> 01:51:56,159
replace the Nihil County Peace Officer's

2157
01:51:56,159 --> 01:51:58,000
bodywn camera system because the

2158
01:51:58,000 --> 01:51:59,920
original provider ceased operations. So

2159
01:51:59,920 --> 01:52:02,080
there are no longer parts or support for

2160
01:52:02,080 --> 01:52:04,080
that programming.

2161
01:52:04,080 --> 01:52:06,320
Body cams remain a critical safety or an

2162
01:52:06,320 --> 01:52:08,239
evidence tool paired with in-car systems

2163
01:52:08,239 --> 01:52:10,080
and must meet secure storage and audit

2164
01:52:10,080 --> 01:52:12,719
trail requirements.

2165
01:52:12,719 --> 01:52:14,800
Then there's 110 snowb blades for

2166
01:52:14,800 --> 01:52:16,800
$55,000 funded from the capital

2167
01:52:16,800 --> 01:52:19,599
equipment reserve replaced to replace

2168
01:52:19,599 --> 01:52:22,000
two end of life blades units on 110

2169
01:52:22,000 --> 01:52:23,840
trucks to reduce repair downtime and

2170
01:52:23,840 --> 01:52:27,360
improve winter operation reliability.

2171
01:52:27,360 --> 01:52:29,280
There's capital computer purchases for

2172
01:52:29,280 --> 01:52:30,800
$49,500

2173
01:52:30,800 --> 01:52:32,800
to be funded from the IT reserve which

2174
01:52:32,800 --> 01:52:35,040
is the replacement of nine laptops, one

2175
01:52:35,040 --> 01:52:36,880
printer and the on-remise watchguard

2176
01:52:36,880 --> 01:52:38,560
server.

2177
01:52:38,560 --> 01:52:40,320
Then there's building up co code

2178
01:52:40,320 --> 01:52:42,639
upgrades for $43,500

2179
01:52:42,639 --> 01:52:44,239
to be funded from the building capital

2180
01:52:44,239 --> 01:52:46,560
replacement reserve. This is to address

2181
01:52:46,560 --> 01:52:48,719
code related deficiencies identified in

2182
01:52:48,719 --> 01:52:51,280
facility condition assessments including

2183
01:52:51,280 --> 01:52:53,280
potable water backflow prevention, hot

2184
01:52:53,280 --> 01:52:55,599
water tank replacements, and safety

2185
01:52:55,599 --> 01:52:57,760
upgrades.

2186
01:52:57,760 --> 01:52:59,119
There's the sign storage building

2187
01:52:59,119 --> 01:53:01,440
replacement for $11,000 to be funded

2188
01:53:01,440 --> 01:53:02,480
through the building's capital

2189
01:53:02,480 --> 01:53:04,480
replacement reserve to remove the

2190
01:53:04,480 --> 01:53:06,719
deteriorated water damaged sign storage

2191
01:53:06,719 --> 01:53:08,880
structure and install a new CCAN with

2192
01:53:08,880 --> 01:53:10,159
lighting and shelving storage

2193
01:53:10,159 --> 01:53:11,760
modifications.

2194
01:53:11,760 --> 01:53:13,280
And then there's the Mihan Cemetery

2195
01:53:13,280 --> 01:53:16,400
fence replacement for $88 $8,800

2196
01:53:16,400 --> 01:53:18,800
to be funded $5,450

2197
01:53:18,800 --> 01:53:22,639
by St. An's Catholic Cemetery and $3,350

2198
01:53:22,639 --> 01:53:26,950
from the parks reserve.

2199
01:53:26,960 --> 01:53:28,880
Then we look at new assets. There's the

2200
01:53:28,880 --> 01:53:30,880
class 3 landfill cell development and

2201
01:53:30,880 --> 01:53:33,760
approval for $275,000.

2202
01:53:33,760 --> 01:53:35,599
This is to engage a consultant to design

2203
01:53:35,599 --> 01:53:37,679
a new landfill cell, produce engineered

2204
01:53:37,679 --> 01:53:39,280
drawings, and submit for approval to

2205
01:53:39,280 --> 01:53:41,360
Alberta Environment. The cell would be

2206
01:53:41,360 --> 01:53:42,960
within the Torington transfer site to

2207
01:53:42,960 --> 01:53:44,719
maintain service levels and regulatory

2208
01:53:44,719 --> 01:53:46,960
compliance.

2209
01:53:46,960 --> 01:53:48,719
Then there's the peace officer incar

2210
01:53:48,719 --> 01:53:51,520
radio installation for $33,000 to be

2211
01:53:51,520 --> 01:53:52,880
funded from the transitional fund

2212
01:53:52,880 --> 01:53:55,840
reserve. This is installing A-Fra in-car

2213
01:53:55,840 --> 01:53:57,920
radios to boost coverage where handhelds

2214
01:53:57,920 --> 01:54:00,400
struggle like in river valley areas

2215
01:54:00,400 --> 01:54:02,320
which will improve officer safety and

2216
01:54:02,320 --> 01:54:03,920
meet communication requirements from

2217
01:54:03,920 --> 01:54:06,000
hazard assessments.

2218
01:54:06,000 --> 01:54:07,840
There's armadillo traffic counters for

2219
01:54:07,840 --> 01:54:09,599
$15,400

2220
01:54:09,599 --> 01:54:11,679
funded from the roads reserve to

2221
01:54:11,679 --> 01:54:13,119
purchase and deploy an additional pair

2222
01:54:13,119 --> 01:54:15,360
of counters at rotating sites to verify

2223
01:54:15,360 --> 01:54:18,080
track traffic volumes and vehicle sizes

2224
01:54:18,080 --> 01:54:19,679
supporting road planning, maintenance

2225
01:54:19,679 --> 01:54:21,520
scheduling, and grant applications with

2226
01:54:21,520 --> 01:54:24,320
accurate data.

2227
01:54:24,320 --> 01:54:25,920
Then we have the phase project for

2228
01:54:25,920 --> 01:54:28,159
bridge file 02288

2229
01:54:28,159 --> 01:54:31,199
for $275,000 to be funded from the roads

2230
01:54:31,199 --> 01:54:33,119
reserve. This is to complete engineering

2231
01:54:33,119 --> 01:54:34,960
and design for the replacement of this

2232
01:54:34,960 --> 01:54:36,880
bridge file with a current structural

2233
01:54:36,880 --> 01:54:39,119
rating of 33.3%.

2234
01:54:39,119 --> 01:54:40,639
This would be delivering assessments,

2235
01:54:40,639 --> 01:54:42,320
drawings, and cost estimates so

2236
01:54:42,320 --> 01:54:44,400
construction can pro proceed when

2237
01:54:44,400 --> 01:54:46,159
funding is available and to strengthen

2238
01:54:46,159 --> 01:54:48,800
future grant applications.

2239
01:54:48,800 --> 01:54:50,639
And then under operating projects or

2240
01:54:50,639 --> 01:54:52,639
initiatives, we have aerial photo

2241
01:54:52,639 --> 01:54:55,040
updates for $99,000

2242
01:54:55,040 --> 01:54:56,480
um funded from the infrastructure

2243
01:54:56,480 --> 01:54:58,159
reserve, which is full replacement of

2244
01:54:58,159 --> 01:55:00,159
the county aerial imagery on a 4-year

2245
01:55:00,159 --> 01:55:02,960
cycle, improving mapping accuracy and

2246
01:55:02,960 --> 01:55:05,280
usability across departments to support

2247
01:55:05,280 --> 01:55:06,800
planning, asset management, and

2248
01:55:06,800 --> 01:55:08,960
operational decisions.

2249
01:55:08,960 --> 01:55:10,960
And we have solid waste rolloff bins for

2250
01:55:10,960 --> 01:55:13,760
$35,200 funded from the infrastructure

2251
01:55:13,760 --> 01:55:15,760
reserve to provide residents an

2252
01:55:15,760 --> 01:55:17,360
alternative to the main landfill by

2253
01:55:17,360 --> 01:55:19,119
staging rolloff bins at a supervised

2254
01:55:19,119 --> 01:55:21,520
transfer site twice per year improving

2255
01:55:21,520 --> 01:55:23,119
convenience and supporting responsible

2256
01:55:23,119 --> 01:55:25,199
waste management.

2257
01:55:25,199 --> 01:55:27,760
Then we have Lucas for fire torington

2258
01:55:27,760 --> 01:55:30,639
fire department for $33,000 to be funded

2259
01:55:30,639 --> 01:55:32,480
$25,000 from the medical first

2260
01:55:32,480 --> 01:55:34,639
responders grant and $8,000 from the

2261
01:55:34,639 --> 01:55:36,800
infrastructure reserve. This is

2262
01:55:36,800 --> 01:55:40,000
acquiring a man mechanical CPR device to

2263
01:55:40,000 --> 01:55:41,599
maintain the first response level of

2264
01:55:41,599 --> 01:55:43,440
service, improve CPR quality and

2265
01:55:43,440 --> 01:55:45,360
consistency on medical calls and reduce

2266
01:55:45,360 --> 01:55:47,920
responder strain.

2267
01:55:47,920 --> 01:55:50,000
We have the county pastor reunation

2268
01:55:50,000 --> 01:55:52,639
project for $29,700

2269
01:55:52,639 --> 01:55:54,159
to be funded by the rangeand

2270
01:55:54,159 --> 01:55:56,880
sustainability grant program. This will

2271
01:55:56,880 --> 01:55:58,400
restore and enhance the ecological

2272
01:55:58,400 --> 01:56:01,119
health and productivity of the 270 acre

2273
01:56:01,119 --> 01:56:03,199
smaltz pasture through receding, weed

2274
01:56:03,199 --> 01:56:06,239
control, and soil amendments. The W shop

2275
01:56:06,239 --> 01:56:09,280
operates upgrades for $9,100 to be

2276
01:56:09,280 --> 01:56:10,639
funded from the building capital

2277
01:56:10,639 --> 01:56:13,199
replacement reserve which is minor res

2278
01:56:13,199 --> 01:56:15,119
renovations and equipment to create more

2279
01:56:15,119 --> 01:56:17,119
functional dedicated in-house workspace

2280
01:56:17,119 --> 01:56:19,760
for facilities and utilities to support

2281
01:56:19,760 --> 01:56:22,480
efficiency and ongoing maintenance work.

2282
01:56:22,480 --> 01:56:24,400
And then the last piece is the general

2283
01:56:24,400 --> 01:56:26,080
generator maintenance program for

2284
01:56:26,080 --> 01:56:28,000
$16,500

2285
01:56:28,000 --> 01:56:29,840
to be funded from the water reserve in

2286
01:56:29,840 --> 01:56:32,480
2026 and then to be put into the ongoing

2287
01:56:32,480 --> 01:56:35,920
operating budget in 2027. Um contracted

2288
01:56:35,920 --> 01:56:37,679
annual maintenance for water pump house

2289
01:56:37,679 --> 01:56:39,920
generators to ensure reliable backup

2290
01:56:39,920 --> 01:56:45,669
power and uninterrupted water service.

2291
01:56:45,679 --> 01:56:47,679
» You okay?

2292
01:56:47,679 --> 01:56:47,990
>> Okay.

2293
01:56:47,990 --> 01:56:48,000
» Okay.

2294
01:56:48,000 --> 01:56:48,950
>> Oh yeah.

2295
01:56:48,950 --> 01:56:48,960
» Oh yeah.

2296
01:56:48,960 --> 01:56:51,750
>> Great. Uh just just to just just to

2297
01:56:51,750 --> 01:56:51,760
» Great. Uh just just to just just to

2298
01:56:51,760 --> 01:56:55,280
clarify uh these are proposed projects.

2299
01:56:55,280 --> 01:56:58,000
They haven't been approved yet. We we

2300
01:56:58,000 --> 01:56:59,280
approve them right

2301
01:56:59,280 --> 01:57:00,709
>> through the chair. That is correct.

2302
01:57:00,709 --> 01:57:00,719
» through the chair. That is correct.

2303
01:57:00,719 --> 01:57:02,950
>> Okay. Next question.

2304
01:57:02,950 --> 01:57:02,960
» Okay. Next question.

2305
01:57:02,960 --> 01:57:05,199
Where do we have any room on here for

2306
01:57:05,199 --> 01:57:08,960
proposed projects that council proposes

2307
01:57:08,960 --> 01:57:10,470
>> through the chair? That is by council

2308
01:57:10,470 --> 01:57:10,480
» through the chair? That is by council

2309
01:57:10,480 --> 01:57:12,960
direction.

2310
01:57:12,960 --> 01:57:14,709
>> If council wishes for projects to come

2311
01:57:14,709 --> 01:57:14,719
» If council wishes for projects to come

2312
01:57:14,719 --> 01:57:17,280
forward, that is council direct. But I'm

2313
01:57:17,280 --> 01:57:18,639
just saying there's no there's no place

2314
01:57:18,639 --> 01:57:21,599
here right now. So when we when we for

2315
01:57:21,599 --> 01:57:24,239
for a budget dollars and cents wise,

2316
01:57:24,239 --> 01:57:25,920
right?

2317
01:57:25,920 --> 01:57:28,159
So if we wanted to propose a project

2318
01:57:28,159 --> 01:57:29,840
that needed to be done, we need a place

2319
01:57:29,840 --> 01:57:34,070
to put it. Correct.

2320
01:57:34,080 --> 01:57:36,400
CEO,

2321
01:57:36,400 --> 01:57:38,149
>> thank you for your excitement. Uh

2322
01:57:38,149 --> 01:57:38,159
» thank you for your excitement. Uh

2323
01:57:38,159 --> 01:57:39,599
through the reef to all of council

2324
01:57:39,599 --> 01:57:41,920
councils can propose a project at any

2325
01:57:41,920 --> 01:57:43,599
time through a motion. Give us a motion,

2326
01:57:43,599 --> 01:57:45,119
we'll add it to the budget and then it

2327
01:57:45,119 --> 01:57:46,880
will come back. So this is the great

2328
01:57:46,880 --> 01:57:48,480
opportunity for you to propose a project

2329
01:57:48,480 --> 01:57:50,080
that you want worked on through motion.

2330
01:57:50,080 --> 01:57:52,400
Council votes, we add it and then it

2331
01:57:52,400 --> 01:57:54,880
comes back into the next version of the

2332
01:57:54,880 --> 01:57:57,119
budget. So at C anytime council can add

2333
01:57:57,119 --> 01:57:58,960
a project, it's your budget, your

2334
01:57:58,960 --> 01:58:01,119
decision.

2335
01:58:01,119 --> 01:58:03,030
>> Councelor Olsen.

2336
01:58:03,030 --> 01:58:03,040
» Councelor Olsen.

2337
01:58:03,040 --> 01:58:05,750
>> Yeah, if I could go to the uh aerial

2338
01:58:05,750 --> 01:58:05,760
» Yeah, if I could go to the uh aerial

2339
01:58:05,760 --> 01:58:08,480
photo update. So that's done every four

2340
01:58:08,480 --> 01:58:11,119
years I believe you said. And is this

2341
01:58:11,119 --> 01:58:13,840
used primarily for uh municipal planning

2342
01:58:13,840 --> 01:58:17,040
commission or or what are the other uses

2343
01:58:17,040 --> 01:58:19,440
and and why can't we use Google Earth if

2344
01:58:19,440 --> 01:58:26,550
it's four years old anyways

2345
01:58:26,560 --> 01:58:28,719
» uh through the chair I believe our it is

2346
01:58:28,719 --> 01:58:30,320
more detailed than what Google Earth

2347
01:58:30,320 --> 01:58:33,280
provides us. So it gives us more um

2348
01:58:33,280 --> 01:58:35,599
ability to do asset management on our

2349
01:58:35,599 --> 01:58:37,520
stuff. It gives us more ability to do

2350
01:58:37,520 --> 01:58:39,920
more refined mapping.

2351
01:58:39,920 --> 01:58:42,470
>> I think that's a good uh comment. I

2352
01:58:42,470 --> 01:58:42,480
» I think that's a good uh comment. I

2353
01:58:42,480 --> 01:58:45,280
mean, I've been on on projects

2354
01:58:45,280 --> 01:58:47,360
throughout Alberta and across Canada and

2355
01:58:47,360 --> 01:58:50,960
that's all we used was Google Earth and

2356
01:58:50,960 --> 01:58:55,040
that it's something we should look into.

2357
01:58:55,040 --> 01:58:59,030
CEO Cochman.

2358
01:58:59,040 --> 01:59:00,239
» Oh, sorry.

2359
01:59:00,239 --> 01:59:01,510
>> That's okay. I was just going to give

2360
01:59:01,510 --> 01:59:01,520
» That's okay. I was just going to give

2361
01:59:01,520 --> 01:59:03,280
the floor to council. No, it's good.

2362
01:59:03,280 --> 01:59:04,639
Through the through the chair to all of

2363
01:59:04,639 --> 01:59:07,280
council. These maps provide us with our

2364
01:59:07,280 --> 01:59:10,080
aerials for our GIS system. So when you

2365
01:59:10,080 --> 01:59:11,840
look on our website and you want to go

2366
01:59:11,840 --> 01:59:14,000
find a map, that's where we get the data

2367
01:59:14,000 --> 01:59:16,000
from. And so we can drill down onto

2368
01:59:16,000 --> 01:59:18,639
every specific location. We Google maps

2369
01:59:18,639 --> 01:59:20,960
can't provide us with the detailed data

2370
01:59:20,960 --> 01:59:22,960
that we get through this system. Now I

2371
01:59:22,960 --> 01:59:24,719
ask this question as well. Can it be put

2372
01:59:24,719 --> 01:59:26,239
off? Certainly it can be. This is our

2373
01:59:26,239 --> 01:59:27,920
standard though. We do it every four

2374
01:59:27,920 --> 01:59:30,400
years. Council's welcome to push it off

2375
01:59:30,400 --> 01:59:32,480
a year or two. But it is beneficial for

2376
01:59:32,480 --> 01:59:35,040
our rateayers and for planning to be

2377
01:59:35,040 --> 01:59:39,119
able to have accurate data for our maps.

2378
01:59:39,119 --> 01:59:44,149
>> Uh councelor Woodstock

2379
01:59:44,159 --> 01:59:46,159
» on my mic.

2380
01:59:46,159 --> 01:59:49,679
Yeah, these uh maps we generally partner

2381
01:59:49,679 --> 01:59:51,760
with other municipalities to cheapen up

2382
01:59:51,760 --> 01:59:53,280
the cost. I don't know if it's happening

2383
01:59:53,280 --> 01:59:56,080
this time or not, but they do give us

2384
01:59:56,080 --> 01:59:59,840
far more superior data. There's layers.

2385
01:59:59,840 --> 02:00:04,560
We can incorporate gas uh lines, gas

2386
02:00:04,560 --> 02:00:08,560
wells, uh boundaries, uh like

2387
02:00:08,560 --> 02:00:11,360
subdivision boundaries. Uh they go into

2388
02:00:11,360 --> 02:00:13,360
far greater detail than you'll ever find

2389
02:00:13,360 --> 02:00:16,080
on Google Maps. And a lot of this stuff

2390
02:00:16,080 --> 02:00:19,599
is very important for not only

2391
02:00:19,599 --> 02:00:21,599
municipal planning, but it's also

2392
02:00:21,599 --> 02:00:23,760
important for operations. There's a lot

2393
02:00:23,760 --> 02:00:26,800
of things that these maps provide that

2394
02:00:26,800 --> 02:00:31,030
uh other

2395
02:00:31,040 --> 02:00:33,679
other uh Google maps or whatever you

2396
02:00:33,679 --> 02:00:35,679
want to call it, other mapping systems,

2397
02:00:35,679 --> 02:00:38,000
these are far superior to those. So, and

2398
02:00:38,000 --> 02:00:49,189
they're used quite often in the county.

2399
02:00:49,199 --> 02:00:49,920
» Thank you.

2400
02:00:49,920 --> 02:00:51,270
>> Keep it short. Keep it short. through

2401
02:00:51,270 --> 02:00:51,280
» Keep it short. Keep it short. through

2402
02:00:51,280 --> 02:00:52,639
the chair to all of council. We have

2403
02:00:52,639 --> 02:00:54,000
some great folks in the background

2404
02:00:54,000 --> 02:00:55,679
listening to help fill in the details.

2405
02:00:55,679 --> 02:00:58,080
So these maps are far more detailed than

2406
02:00:58,080 --> 02:00:59,760
our aerial maps. They're used for our

2407
02:00:59,760 --> 02:01:01,679
planning subdivisions, reszoning,

2408
02:01:01,679 --> 02:01:03,679
mapping infrastructure, water valves,

2409
02:01:03,679 --> 02:01:05,520
curb stops, rural water valves,

2410
02:01:05,520 --> 02:01:07,360
culverts. So it's very detailed on all

2411
02:01:07,360 --> 02:01:09,199
of our infrastructure and our assets. We

2412
02:01:09,199 --> 02:01:11,119
can't get this detail from Google Maps.

2413
02:01:11,119 --> 02:01:15,270
They don't provide it.

2414
02:01:15,280 --> 02:01:16,560
» Council,

2415
02:01:16,560 --> 02:01:18,550
>> so I know we're going to be doing a a

2416
02:01:18,550 --> 02:01:18,560
» so I know we're going to be doing a a

2417
02:01:18,560 --> 02:01:20,560
tour. So, this um eventually might

2418
02:01:20,560 --> 02:01:22,639
answer these questions, but um just for

2419
02:01:22,639 --> 02:01:25,360
the rate pairs as well, um we called it

2420
02:01:25,360 --> 02:01:27,520
the old the old Three Hills shop. I'm

2421
02:01:27,520 --> 02:01:30,000
assuming that's at the where our main

2422
02:01:30,000 --> 02:01:33,679
shop is. Um could you or could someone

2423
02:01:33,679 --> 02:01:36,639
give me detail on what that shop, what

2424
02:01:36,639 --> 02:01:38,320
we do at that shop that isn't done at

2425
02:01:38,320 --> 02:01:39,840
the main shop because I noticed like

2426
02:01:39,840 --> 02:01:45,910
it's about a almost $62,000 cost to that

2427
02:01:45,920 --> 02:01:47,440
» through the reef to all of council. can

2428
02:01:47,440 --> 02:01:48,639
answer that one. We used the currently

2429
02:01:48,639 --> 02:01:50,960
use the old shop for equipment storage.

2430
02:01:50,960 --> 02:01:52,719
Equipment that can't get cold is stored

2431
02:01:52,719 --> 02:01:54,480
in that space, but we're also looking

2432
02:01:54,480 --> 02:01:56,080
for direction from council on what they

2433
02:01:56,080 --> 02:01:57,760
want to do with that space. Um, and that

2434
02:01:57,760 --> 02:01:59,840
will probably be a topic for strategic

2435
02:01:59,840 --> 02:02:01,599
planning session. Currently, we do use

2436
02:02:01,599 --> 02:02:02,960
it though for equipment storage for

2437
02:02:02,960 --> 02:02:04,560
stuff that can't get really cold.

2438
02:02:04,560 --> 02:02:06,070
>> Okay, thank you. That Yeah, you answered

2439
02:02:06,070 --> 02:02:06,080
» Okay, thank you. That Yeah, you answered

2440
02:02:06,080 --> 02:02:06,719
my

2441
02:02:06,719 --> 02:02:09,910
>> prior at our prior interm budget, we

2442
02:02:09,910 --> 02:02:09,920
» prior at our prior interm budget, we

2443
02:02:09,920 --> 02:02:12,159
spoke on that also. I mean, we we didn't

2444
02:02:12,159 --> 02:02:13,760
build this big shop to have that shop

2445
02:02:13,760 --> 02:02:15,119
sitting there along with the white

2446
02:02:15,119 --> 02:02:17,119
building. We need to go down have a look

2447
02:02:17,119 --> 02:02:18,960
at it. I mean some of that stuff should

2448
02:02:18,960 --> 02:02:21,599
be sold. Um we don't need it's just

2449
02:02:21,599 --> 02:02:24,400
ongoing like I'm like there's a lot of

2450
02:02:24,400 --> 02:02:26,320
stuff in here I'm not in favor of like

2451
02:02:26,320 --> 02:02:28,480
but we can discuss that when it gets in.

2452
02:02:28,480 --> 02:02:30,880
Yeah. Yeah. For sure.

2453
02:02:30,880 --> 02:02:32,870
>> You need a break for 10 minutes?

2454
02:02:32,870 --> 02:02:32,880
» You need a break for 10 minutes?

2455
02:02:32,880 --> 02:02:33,589
>> Sure.

2456
02:02:33,589 --> 02:02:33,599
» Sure.

2457
02:02:33,599 --> 02:17:43,910
>> Let's take a break for 10 minutes.

2458
02:17:43,920 --> 02:17:47,200
All right, 10:18. Let's get back to uh

2459
02:17:47,200 --> 02:17:50,080
the uh budget proposals.

2460
02:17:50,080 --> 02:17:52,230
>> Go ahead.

2461
02:17:52,230 --> 02:17:52,240
» Go ahead.

2462
02:17:52,240 --> 02:17:54,389
>> All right, so before the break, we went

2463
02:17:54,389 --> 02:17:54,399
» All right, so before the break, we went

2464
02:17:54,399 --> 02:17:57,439
over the proposed project listing. Um

2465
02:17:57,439 --> 02:17:59,439
this next slide looks at proposed and

2466
02:17:59,439 --> 02:18:01,599
pre-approval project summary. So this is

2467
02:18:01,599 --> 02:18:04,000
combining those two different schedules.

2468
02:18:04,000 --> 02:18:05,840
Um the total proposed project and

2469
02:18:05,840 --> 02:18:07,359
pre-approval project budget is

2470
02:18:07,359 --> 02:18:11,190
$21,948,900.

2471
02:18:11,200 --> 02:18:13,120
Um and they're organized into seven

2472
02:18:13,120 --> 02:18:15,040
categories. So maintenance of existing

2473
02:18:15,040 --> 02:18:18,800
assets sits at 6.6 million. New assets

2474
02:18:18,800 --> 02:18:21,439
sits at $323,400.

2475
02:18:21,439 --> 02:18:24,399
New initiatives at $55,000. Operating

2476
02:18:24,399 --> 02:18:28,000
projects at $3,681,000,

2477
02:18:28,000 --> 02:18:32,000
phase projects at $5,445,000,

2478
02:18:32,000 --> 02:18:34,000
replacement of existing assets at

2479
02:18:34,000 --> 02:18:36,399
$517,700,

2480
02:18:36,399 --> 02:18:38,399
and capital equipment plan purchases at

2481
02:18:38,399 --> 02:18:42,309
$5,256,000.

2482
02:18:42,319 --> 02:18:43,519
And then we looked at the funding

2483
02:18:43,519 --> 02:18:45,840
summary. So this is the same total

2484
02:18:45,840 --> 02:18:47,519
information, but put into where the

2485
02:18:47,519 --> 02:18:49,280
funding sources is rather than the type

2486
02:18:49,280 --> 02:18:51,760
of project. Um and they're funded

2487
02:18:51,760 --> 02:18:54,479
through a mix of reserves and grants. Um

2488
02:18:54,479 --> 02:18:58,160
so you look at there's $7,326,900

2489
02:18:58,160 --> 02:18:59,840
coming from the roads reserve,

2490
02:18:59,840 --> 02:19:02,160
$5,311,000

2491
02:19:02,160 --> 02:19:03,760
coming from the capital equipment

2492
02:19:03,760 --> 02:19:06,559
replacement reserve. Um grants, there's

2493
02:19:06,559 --> 02:19:09,439
n $2,914,700

2494
02:19:09,439 --> 02:19:11,760
coming from grants. Uh the gravel

2495
02:19:11,760 --> 02:19:15,920
reserve is 2 $2,695,000.

2496
02:19:15,920 --> 02:19:17,519
1,6606

2497
02:19:17,519 --> 02:19:22,639
$66,500 from the water reserve, $64,200

2498
02:19:22,639 --> 02:19:25,120
in from the infrastructure reserve,

2499
02:19:25,120 --> 02:19:28,399
$560,000 from the contingency reserve,

2500
02:19:28,399 --> 02:19:30,160
$438,800

2501
02:19:30,160 --> 02:19:31,679
from the building capital replacement

2502
02:19:31,679 --> 02:19:33,280
reserve,

2503
02:19:33,280 --> 02:19:34,960
$131,500

2504
02:19:34,960 --> 02:19:37,760
from the transitional fund reserve, 400

2505
02:19:37,760 --> 02:19:40,960
or $242,000 from the bridge reserve,

2506
02:19:40,960 --> 02:19:46,080
$49,500 from the IT reserve, 335 50 from

2507
02:19:46,080 --> 02:19:49,280
the parks reserve and $5,450

2508
02:19:49,280 --> 02:19:53,190
from community funding.

2509
02:19:53,200 --> 02:19:54,800
Uh the distribution shows a heavy

2510
02:19:54,800 --> 02:19:56,720
emphasis on core asset programs with

2511
02:19:56,720 --> 02:19:58,399
targeted use of other reserves for

2512
02:19:58,399 --> 02:20:01,600
facilities, water, and contingency.

2513
02:20:01,600 --> 02:20:03,439
And then this last one just ties in

2514
02:20:03,439 --> 02:20:05,280
appendix G, which is also included in

2515
02:20:05,280 --> 02:20:08,319
the proposed in the um report itself.

2516
02:20:08,319 --> 02:20:10,080
Um, we've got operating budget

2517
02:20:10,080 --> 02:20:14,950
contributions of $9,137,542.

2518
02:20:14,960 --> 02:20:20,790
Uh, proposed project draws of 19,28,750.

2519
02:20:20,800 --> 02:20:22,800
This includes pre-approved and proposed

2520
02:20:22,800 --> 02:20:25,120
2026 projects.

2521
02:20:25,120 --> 02:20:26,479
And then the projected remaining

2522
02:20:26,479 --> 02:20:28,479
available balance, so basically this is

2523
02:20:28,479 --> 02:20:30,640
money that has not been allocated to any

2524
02:20:30,640 --> 02:20:36,309
project is 59,455,261.

2525
02:20:36,319 --> 02:20:38,720
So this plan funds 2026 projects from

2526
02:20:38,720 --> 02:20:40,319
reserves and grants while maintaining

2527
02:20:40,319 --> 02:20:42,800
available balances for future years.

2528
02:20:42,800 --> 02:20:44,800
Base operating transfers and reserves

2529
02:20:44,800 --> 02:20:46,960
continue um supporting capital equipment

2530
02:20:46,960 --> 02:20:50,790
plan and core infrastructure.

2531
02:20:50,800 --> 02:20:52,399
And so then that comes to our last

2532
02:20:52,399 --> 02:20:55,120
section of the presentation piece today.

2533
02:20:55,120 --> 02:20:57,439
Um and it just highlights the remaining

2534
02:20:57,439 --> 02:21:00,880
steps in the 2026 budget process. So the

2535
02:21:00,880 --> 02:21:02,880
first piece this these next couple

2536
02:21:02,880 --> 02:21:05,359
slides reflect items with budget changes

2537
02:21:05,359 --> 02:21:06,960
made by administration that we're

2538
02:21:06,960 --> 02:21:08,240
highlighting to ensure council

2539
02:21:08,240 --> 02:21:10,479
awareness. Again this list isn't

2540
02:21:10,479 --> 02:21:13,520
exhaustive. Council may discuss to may

2541
02:21:13,520 --> 02:21:15,439
wish to discuss any aspect of the

2542
02:21:15,439 --> 02:21:17,840
budget. But these ones next few items

2543
02:21:17,840 --> 02:21:20,000
are just items where administration has

2544
02:21:20,000 --> 02:21:21,760
either changed something or feels that

2545
02:21:21,760 --> 02:21:23,520
there might be room to change something

2546
02:21:23,520 --> 02:21:25,280
and is recommending those items as

2547
02:21:25,280 --> 02:21:27,600
council discussion. The first is

2548
02:21:27,600 --> 02:21:30,000
horseshoe canyon paid parking. Um, so no

2549
02:21:30,000 --> 02:21:31,680
revenue or expenditure is included in

2550
02:21:31,680 --> 02:21:33,840
the 2026 operating budget to support

2551
02:21:33,840 --> 02:21:36,080
this program. Um, if council supports

2552
02:21:36,080 --> 02:21:37,760
approval, the parking fee will be taken

2553
02:21:37,760 --> 02:21:39,680
out of the master rates bylaw at its

2554
02:21:39,680 --> 02:21:42,319
next update. Then there's campground

2555
02:21:42,319 --> 02:21:44,800
fees. There's an operating budget um has

2556
02:21:44,800 --> 02:21:47,600
a $5 per night increase included in it.

2557
02:21:47,600 --> 02:21:49,359
Um, again, if council supports this, the

2558
02:21:49,359 --> 02:21:51,040
rates will be updated in the next master

2559
02:21:51,040 --> 02:21:53,200
rates bylaw.

2560
02:21:53,200 --> 02:21:54,800
And then the cemeteries grant, this is

2561
02:21:54,800 --> 02:21:58,000
one that came in under policy 2.2. um

2562
02:21:58,000 --> 02:22:00,080
and it's not been utilized in recent

2563
02:22:00,080 --> 02:22:02,319
years. So administration's not included

2564
02:22:02,319 --> 02:22:03,920
this amount in the budget, but this

2565
02:22:03,920 --> 02:22:06,000
would require council resend the policy

2566
02:22:06,000 --> 02:22:09,670
itself.

2567
02:22:09,680 --> 02:22:12,080
And then we look at water for resale. So

2568
02:22:12,080 --> 02:22:13,840
the supplier pricing for most of the

2569
02:22:13,840 --> 02:22:16,640
county systems is increasing by 8% for

2570
02:22:16,640 --> 02:22:19,760
2026. Um the budget reflects this

2571
02:22:19,760 --> 02:22:21,760
increased cost because it's a cost that

2572
02:22:21,760 --> 02:22:24,399
we h have no choice but to pay in order

2573
02:22:24,399 --> 02:22:26,720
to provide water to our systems. Um, but

2574
02:22:26,720 --> 02:22:29,680
we have not increased the actual rates

2575
02:22:29,680 --> 02:22:32,000
within the operating budget in alignment

2576
02:22:32,000 --> 02:22:34,160
with that increased cost of water. So,

2577
02:22:34,160 --> 02:22:35,600
that's something that council can then

2578
02:22:35,600 --> 02:22:37,760
decide where we look at our current

2579
02:22:37,760 --> 02:22:39,680
rates and what kind of increase or

2580
02:22:39,680 --> 02:22:42,640
adjustment council may wish to make. Um,

2581
02:22:42,640 --> 02:22:46,080
our current rates are $45 per cube for

2582
02:22:46,080 --> 02:22:50,000
gravityfed systems, $2.55 for well-fed

2583
02:22:50,000 --> 02:22:55,200
systems, and $5.15 for bulk water.

2584
02:22:55,200 --> 02:22:57,920
Um, just for some context, a $1 increase

2585
02:22:57,920 --> 02:23:00,640
in the monthly base fee generates about

2586
02:23:00,640 --> 02:23:03,680
$10,000 increased revenue and a 10-cent

2587
02:23:03,680 --> 02:23:05,920
increase in cube rates generates about

2588
02:23:05,920 --> 02:23:08,960
$18,000 on the water systems themselves.

2589
02:23:08,960 --> 02:23:10,640
And our purchase price is increasing

2590
02:23:10,640 --> 02:23:12,720
anywhere between 20 cents per cube and

2591
02:23:12,720 --> 02:23:18,230
27 cents per cube.

2592
02:23:18,240 --> 02:23:20,240
And then we've just looked this other

2593
02:23:20,240 --> 02:23:22,319
one as total reserve contributions in

2594
02:23:22,319 --> 02:23:24,640
the proposed budget are lower in 2026

2595
02:23:24,640 --> 02:23:27,040
for then in 2025 due to the expiry of

2596
02:23:27,040 --> 02:23:29,359
time limited special levies. Um and

2597
02:23:29,359 --> 02:23:30,880
we've just flagged this item because

2598
02:23:30,880 --> 02:23:34,560
they've decreased by $143,16

2599
02:23:34,560 --> 02:23:35,840
and it's just something that council

2600
02:23:35,840 --> 02:23:37,760
should be cognizant of as going through

2601
02:23:37,760 --> 02:23:39,600
the budget to ensure the long-term

2602
02:23:39,600 --> 02:23:41,920
sustainability of assets.

2603
02:23:41,920 --> 02:23:43,670
>> I want to go back to the water for a

2604
02:23:43,670 --> 02:23:43,680
» I want to go back to the water for a

2605
02:23:43,680 --> 02:23:47,439
minute. Um we got an 8% increase. Uh I'm

2606
02:23:47,439 --> 02:23:49,520
gathering that's for production of the

2607
02:23:49,520 --> 02:23:51,840
water to us

2608
02:23:51,840 --> 02:23:53,270
>> through the chair. That's our purchase

2609
02:23:53,270 --> 02:23:53,280
» through the chair. That's our purchase

2610
02:23:53,280 --> 02:23:55,680
price per cube from our suppliers for

2611
02:23:55,680 --> 02:23:56,720
water systems. Yes.

2612
02:23:56,720 --> 02:23:58,790
>> So I gather it's because of them doing

2613
02:23:58,790 --> 02:23:58,800
» So I gather it's because of them doing

2614
02:23:58,800 --> 02:24:02,640
upgrades or uh you would know Jerry or

2615
02:24:02,640 --> 02:24:06,000
councelor Woodstock.

2616
02:24:06,000 --> 02:24:08,550
>> We were projected to have a 5% increase

2617
02:24:08,550 --> 02:24:08,560
» We were projected to have a 5% increase

2618
02:24:08,560 --> 02:24:11,439
in the water rates coming from our hub

2619
02:24:11,439 --> 02:24:13,280
which is the Drumheller water treatment

2620
02:24:13,280 --> 02:24:14,560
system.

2621
02:24:14,560 --> 02:24:18,560
for some reason it came back at 8%.

2622
02:24:18,560 --> 02:24:21,439
So we can't just we haven't been able to

2623
02:24:21,439 --> 02:24:23,840
figure out why.

2624
02:24:23,840 --> 02:24:25,920
Uh we are supposed to be meeting with

2625
02:24:25,920 --> 02:24:28,240
Drum Heler. I'm hoping that we do get a

2626
02:24:28,240 --> 02:24:31,120
meeting, but that is also one of the

2627
02:24:31,120 --> 02:24:32,800
things that we're doing through that

2628
02:24:32,800 --> 02:24:35,840
committee that I've been placed on. And

2629
02:24:35,840 --> 02:24:37,680
what we're trying to do there is trying

2630
02:24:37,680 --> 02:24:39,600
to determine how water rates are

2631
02:24:39,600 --> 02:24:41,680
calculated throughout the province like

2632
02:24:41,680 --> 02:24:45,040
what how to get those numbers correct so

2633
02:24:45,040 --> 02:24:48,319
we can use the same methodology

2634
02:24:48,319 --> 02:24:50,080
throughout the province to calculate. Of

2635
02:24:50,080 --> 02:24:51,680
course the water rates will not be

2636
02:24:51,680 --> 02:24:54,319
consistent through the province but the

2637
02:24:54,319 --> 02:24:56,240
way to calculate them should be

2638
02:24:56,240 --> 02:24:58,720
consistent. So hopefully if we can get

2639
02:24:58,720 --> 02:25:00,479
this through, I think we're due to have

2640
02:25:00,479 --> 02:25:04,000
the final report done by March the 31st

2641
02:25:04,000 --> 02:25:06,479
of this year and then it'll go to the

2642
02:25:06,479 --> 02:25:08,560
province and the province will instigate

2643
02:25:08,560 --> 02:25:11,600
that. But the reason that 8% is there is

2644
02:25:11,600 --> 02:25:13,520
because that is exactly what the

2645
02:25:13,520 --> 02:25:15,600
governer

2646
02:25:15,600 --> 02:25:17,680
raised the water rates coming in to the

2647
02:25:17,680 --> 02:25:20,880
Aqua 7 system.

2648
02:25:20,880 --> 02:25:23,280
But I don't know what the increase in

2649
02:25:23,280 --> 02:25:26,000
rates have been from Three Hills into

2650
02:25:26,000 --> 02:25:30,800
our Mount Vernon and uh equity systems.

2651
02:25:30,800 --> 02:25:31,920
So

2652
02:25:31,920 --> 02:25:33,670
>> yeah, one one of the question one of the

2653
02:25:33,670 --> 02:25:33,680
» yeah, one one of the question one of the

2654
02:25:33,680 --> 02:25:35,680
questions I have is we can't we can't

2655
02:25:35,680 --> 02:25:37,760
absorb these hits. We got to get cost

2656
02:25:37,760 --> 02:25:39,520
recovery on this. We're already sitting

2657
02:25:39,520 --> 02:25:43,040
at 700,000 subsidies on on water systems

2658
02:25:43,040 --> 02:25:45,680
and that just ain't cutting it. So I

2659
02:25:45,680 --> 02:25:48,240
mean we we add another 8%.

2660
02:25:48,240 --> 02:25:52,240
We better be collecting some

2661
02:25:52,240 --> 02:25:55,520
revenue here. Uh, councelor Olson.

2662
02:25:55,520 --> 02:25:58,230
>> Yeah, I agree. There's if we're getting

2663
02:25:58,230 --> 02:25:58,240
» Yeah, I agree. There's if we're getting

2664
02:25:58,240 --> 02:26:01,120
an 8% increase, it has it has to be

2665
02:26:01,120 --> 02:26:03,680
passed on. I mean, I don't like it

2666
02:26:03,680 --> 02:26:06,000
either, but uh also one of my questions

2667
02:26:06,000 --> 02:26:08,880
was and maybe uh councelor Woodstock can

2668
02:26:08,880 --> 02:26:11,840
uh address this too is how often have we

2669
02:26:11,840 --> 02:26:14,479
been getting increases

2670
02:26:14,479 --> 02:26:18,880
um from either the town or from Aqua 7?

2671
02:26:18,880 --> 02:26:21,120
Um just so we're not are are we going to

2672
02:26:21,120 --> 02:26:24,000
be doing this every year?

2673
02:26:24,000 --> 02:26:24,479
Yes,

2674
02:26:24,479 --> 02:26:26,230
>> it's been fairly consistent that every

2675
02:26:26,230 --> 02:26:26,240
» it's been fairly consistent that every

2676
02:26:26,240 --> 02:26:28,000
year the there is an increase in the

2677
02:26:28,000 --> 02:26:30,720
cost of water. uh we do pass that

2678
02:26:30,720 --> 02:26:33,439
increase along to our residents

2679
02:26:33,439 --> 02:26:36,160
but our residents we also have to be

2680
02:26:36,160 --> 02:26:38,160
cognizant that we have to be competitive

2681
02:26:38,160 --> 02:26:40,479
with the towns and villages as far as

2682
02:26:40,479 --> 02:26:42,720
water rates go.

2683
02:26:42,720 --> 02:26:45,680
So, I mean, there is ways to figure this

2684
02:26:45,680 --> 02:26:48,479
out, but doing it strictly through water

2685
02:26:48,479 --> 02:26:50,640
rates, that would put our water rates

2686
02:26:50,640 --> 02:26:54,399
probably at $7 per cube plus

2687
02:26:54,399 --> 02:26:56,240
while our towns and villages are sitting

2688
02:26:56,240 --> 02:26:58,160
in that 4450

2689
02:26:58,160 --> 02:26:59,760
area.

2690
02:26:59,760 --> 02:27:01,680
I don't know if it'd be sustainable for

2691
02:27:01,680 --> 02:27:03,760
the county to raise our water rates to

2692
02:27:03,760 --> 02:27:07,040
that $7 plus because I think anybody

2693
02:27:07,040 --> 02:27:08,800
that's on these water rates know what

2694
02:27:08,800 --> 02:27:10,960
they're paying currently.

2695
02:27:10,960 --> 02:27:13,680
And to increase it that much would be

2696
02:27:13,680 --> 02:27:16,240
well it would be a hit to someone's

2697
02:27:16,240 --> 02:27:17,600
budget. That's for sure.

2698
02:27:17,600 --> 02:27:19,270
>> I I understand that. But the other side

2699
02:27:19,270 --> 02:27:19,280
» I I understand that. But the other side

2700
02:27:19,280 --> 02:27:20,720
of the coin too is we it's something we

2701
02:27:20,720 --> 02:27:23,280
need to look at because I mean you're

2702
02:27:23,280 --> 02:27:26,720
you're you're uh decide or you're

2703
02:27:26,720 --> 02:27:28,399
comparing like the towns and villages.

2704
02:27:28,399 --> 02:27:30,720
I'm gathering like three hills, Chosu,

2705
02:27:30,720 --> 02:27:31,520
etc.

2706
02:27:31,520 --> 02:27:33,510
>> The urbans within our municipality.

2707
02:27:33,510 --> 02:27:33,520
» The urbans within our municipality.

2708
02:27:33,520 --> 02:27:38,150
>> Yeah. And and our our our people, right?

2709
02:27:38,150 --> 02:27:38,160
» Yeah. And and our our our people, right?

2710
02:27:38,160 --> 02:27:40,560
Like Huxley's and stuff like that. Well,

2711
02:27:40,560 --> 02:27:43,040
Huxley would be considerably less

2712
02:27:43,040 --> 02:27:45,200
because they're on the wellfed system.

2713
02:27:45,200 --> 02:27:47,190
>> I Yep. But there's still there's still

2714
02:27:47,190 --> 02:27:47,200
» I Yep. But there's still there's still

2715
02:27:47,200 --> 02:27:49,040
that there's still that dollars and

2716
02:27:49,040 --> 02:27:51,280
cents that we're subsidizing throughout

2717
02:27:51,280 --> 02:27:54,000
the whole the whole area. So, I think

2718
02:27:54,000 --> 02:27:55,680
it's something we got to look at. I

2719
02:27:55,680 --> 02:27:57,600
mean, we can't we can't just go along

2720
02:27:57,600 --> 02:28:00,240
subsidizing everybody. The rate like

2721
02:28:00,240 --> 02:28:01,750
>> Well, we're not sitting in an island

2722
02:28:01,750 --> 02:28:01,760
» Well, we're not sitting in an island

2723
02:28:01,760 --> 02:28:03,280
here saying that we're the only ones

2724
02:28:03,280 --> 02:28:06,240
subsidizing. The tax villages are up and

2725
02:28:06,240 --> 02:28:08,479
I'm not saying that you did. All I'm

2726
02:28:08,479 --> 02:28:11,760
saying is that it's most systems, water,

2727
02:28:11,760 --> 02:28:13,600
sewer systems in the province are

2728
02:28:13,600 --> 02:28:17,280
subsidized to some sort of an extent. U

2729
02:28:17,280 --> 02:28:18,880
whether that's wrong or right, I'm not

2730
02:28:18,880 --> 02:28:21,439
here to say, but I know that our current

2731
02:28:21,439 --> 02:28:25,040
county rates will increase

2732
02:28:25,040 --> 02:28:27,040
uh because of the increase of the water

2733
02:28:27,040 --> 02:28:29,280
coming into

2734
02:28:29,280 --> 02:28:32,319
the Aqua 7 system. But there are

2735
02:28:32,319 --> 02:28:35,760
different ways to generate revenue like

2736
02:28:35,760 --> 02:28:38,399
we've had u

2737
02:28:38,399 --> 02:28:41,840
oh local improvement tax and what's the

2738
02:28:41,840 --> 02:28:44,319
other one that we have the ability to do

2739
02:28:44,319 --> 02:28:47,760
on land. But regardless of um there

2740
02:28:47,760 --> 02:28:51,920
there is ways of doing it. We just taken

2741
02:28:51,920 --> 02:28:56,960
770 722,000 off because after 15 years

2742
02:28:56,960 --> 02:28:59,200
that last water system has now come off

2743
02:28:59,200 --> 02:29:02,960
the books. So we no longer get that uh

2744
02:29:02,960 --> 02:29:05,439
income from it because after 15 years

2745
02:29:05,439 --> 02:29:07,680
that was that was the way the bylaw was

2746
02:29:07,680 --> 02:29:10,080
written. So

2747
02:29:10,080 --> 02:29:13,120
but uh we've got seven seven separate

2748
02:29:13,120 --> 02:29:16,160
water systems and they've all come off

2749
02:29:16,160 --> 02:29:17,520
and this is the last one that's come

2750
02:29:17,520 --> 02:29:19,439
off. So anyway, I'm not going to prolong

2751
02:29:19,439 --> 02:29:23,040
the discussion. Coh CEO Cochran.

2752
02:29:23,040 --> 02:29:24,389
>> Thank you through the reef to all of

2753
02:29:24,389 --> 02:29:24,399
» Thank you through the reef to all of

2754
02:29:24,399 --> 02:29:26,319
council. Um, we have a great dashboard

2755
02:29:26,319 --> 02:29:27,600
that we'll bring in front of council

2756
02:29:27,600 --> 02:29:29,359
that will talk about our ro that'll show

2757
02:29:29,359 --> 02:29:31,200
you the water rates in live time where

2758
02:29:31,200 --> 02:29:33,120
you can adjust water rates and see how

2759
02:29:33,120 --> 02:29:35,120
that impacts the the revenue and the

2760
02:29:35,120 --> 02:29:38,479
recoveries. Um, certainly there council

2761
02:29:38,479 --> 02:29:40,160
I can understand a strategy to get us

2762
02:29:40,160 --> 02:29:42,399
closer to recovery, but that's something

2763
02:29:42,399 --> 02:29:43,760
um that you'll want to look at through

2764
02:29:43,760 --> 02:29:45,280
the strategic planning and the policy,

2765
02:29:45,280 --> 02:29:47,280
but we do have the capacity to support

2766
02:29:47,280 --> 02:29:49,680
you in seeing what decisions make in

2767
02:29:49,680 --> 02:29:51,760
real time. So if you increase by 5 cents

2768
02:29:51,760 --> 02:29:53,600
per cube, you can see what that impact

2769
02:29:53,600 --> 02:29:56,240
is in terms of our revenue. As m

2770
02:29:56,240 --> 02:29:58,160
councelor Witstock did indicate, there's

2771
02:29:58,160 --> 02:29:59,600
other ways for us to bring in revenue

2772
02:29:59,600 --> 02:30:01,439
through special improvement taxes and

2773
02:30:01,439 --> 02:30:03,520
such. Um and those will be things for

2774
02:30:03,520 --> 02:30:05,359
council to consider as you move through

2775
02:30:05,359 --> 02:30:11,110
your term

2776
02:30:11,120 --> 02:30:14,000
everybody. Okay?

2777
02:30:14,000 --> 02:30:18,550
>> All righty. Thanks.

2778
02:30:18,560 --> 02:30:21,439
» Okay. Um so this is my last slide of my

2779
02:30:21,439 --> 02:30:23,840
presentation component of today. Um and

2780
02:30:23,840 --> 02:30:26,080
it just looks at what the next steps are

2781
02:30:26,080 --> 02:30:28,880
from here in the budget process. So

2782
02:30:28,880 --> 02:30:30,399
throughout the process, administration

2783
02:30:30,399 --> 02:30:32,240
has been logging any questions asked.

2784
02:30:32,240 --> 02:30:33,680
Today we're logging any questions that

2785
02:30:33,680 --> 02:30:36,160
are asked um so that we can provide

2786
02:30:36,160 --> 02:30:39,359
clear responses back in future budget

2787
02:30:39,359 --> 02:30:42,160
sessions. Um so that will continue. If

2788
02:30:42,160 --> 02:30:43,840
there are questions outside of these

2789
02:30:43,840 --> 02:30:45,439
presentations, they can be directed to

2790
02:30:45,439 --> 02:30:48,560
CEO Cochran who will then can ensure

2791
02:30:48,560 --> 02:30:51,040
that those are included in any future

2792
02:30:51,040 --> 02:30:52,880
presentations.

2793
02:30:52,880 --> 02:30:54,800
Um, so then again, administration then

2794
02:30:54,800 --> 02:30:56,960
provides responses and follow-ups. So

2795
02:30:56,960 --> 02:30:58,880
any changes to numbers or assumptions

2796
02:30:58,880 --> 02:31:00,800
are shown side by side with the original

2797
02:31:00,800 --> 02:31:02,960
information. So anything that changes in

2798
02:31:02,960 --> 02:31:05,120
the budget now will look we've got that

2799
02:31:05,120 --> 02:31:07,439
1930 thou $139,000

2800
02:31:07,439 --> 02:31:09,520
surplus. Anything that gets adjusted

2801
02:31:09,520 --> 02:31:11,920
will then be specifically tracked so we

2802
02:31:11,920 --> 02:31:13,359
can log exactly where the proposed

2803
02:31:13,359 --> 02:31:15,280
budget to the final adopted budget gets

2804
02:31:15,280 --> 02:31:18,880
to. Um and then budget deliberations and

2805
02:31:18,880 --> 02:31:21,920
balancing. So council then from this

2806
02:31:21,920 --> 02:31:24,000
point forward administration has put

2807
02:31:24,000 --> 02:31:26,000
forward everything that administration

2808
02:31:26,000 --> 02:31:27,840
would like to put forward to the for the

2809
02:31:27,840 --> 02:31:30,560
2026 budget. And realistically, it's in

2810
02:31:30,560 --> 02:31:33,120
council's hands to look at what things

2811
02:31:33,120 --> 02:31:34,800
they want to look further into, what

2812
02:31:34,800 --> 02:31:37,760
questions they want answered, how water

2813
02:31:37,760 --> 02:31:39,680
rates might be adjusted for that

2814
02:31:39,680 --> 02:31:41,760
example. Right? Administration knows the

2815
02:31:41,760 --> 02:31:43,439
cost is increased, but administration

2816
02:31:43,439 --> 02:31:44,880
doesn't know where council wants to go

2817
02:31:44,880 --> 02:31:46,240
with those rates. So, that's something

2818
02:31:46,240 --> 02:31:48,240
that administration's flagged as a

2819
02:31:48,240 --> 02:31:50,000
council discussion item because it's not

2820
02:31:50,000 --> 02:31:51,760
something that we're going to like

2821
02:31:51,760 --> 02:31:55,760
directly put a number to. Um the next

2822
02:31:55,760 --> 02:31:58,640
time I you see me I will have a budget

2823
02:31:58,640 --> 02:32:00,479
dashboard for council and what that's

2824
02:32:00,479 --> 02:32:03,439
intended to do is provide some sort of

2825
02:32:03,439 --> 02:32:05,920
visual aspect of where changes are

2826
02:32:05,920 --> 02:32:07,760
affecting the budget. So it provides a

2827
02:32:07,760 --> 02:32:10,640
live update of shortfall or surplus. Um

2828
02:32:10,640 --> 02:32:13,439
it'll calculate any tax changes. It'll

2829
02:32:13,439 --> 02:32:15,600
calculate water rate impact. So we try

2830
02:32:15,600 --> 02:32:18,560
and look at what the average impact to

2831
02:32:18,560 --> 02:32:20,640
an acreage owner or a hamlet owner would

2832
02:32:20,640 --> 02:32:22,399
be depending on different changes in

2833
02:32:22,399 --> 02:32:24,960
water rates. what the average impact on

2834
02:32:24,960 --> 02:32:28,160
a low bulk water user versus a high

2835
02:32:28,160 --> 02:32:30,960
usage bulk water user might be. Um, and

2836
02:32:30,960 --> 02:32:32,479
then anything else that we kind of

2837
02:32:32,479 --> 02:32:34,479
identify or council tells us they're

2838
02:32:34,479 --> 02:32:35,920
willing to look at, we kind of try to

2839
02:32:35,920 --> 02:32:37,600
specifically build that into that

2840
02:32:37,600 --> 02:32:40,080
dashboard. Um, it'll also include things

2841
02:32:40,080 --> 02:32:42,319
like budget project approvals and how

2842
02:32:42,319 --> 02:32:44,479
they impact reserve balances to try and

2843
02:32:44,479 --> 02:32:47,280
allow council to scenario plan and see

2844
02:32:47,280 --> 02:32:49,280
what what how decisions would play out

2845
02:32:49,280 --> 02:32:51,840
within the budget. Um again, as

2846
02:32:51,840 --> 02:32:55,439
mentioned before, administration is um

2847
02:32:55,439 --> 02:32:57,680
asking whether council would be would

2848
02:32:57,680 --> 02:33:00,000
consider looking at project approvals at

2849
02:33:00,000 --> 02:33:01,520
the February 10th meeting for the

2850
02:33:01,520 --> 02:33:02,960
remaining projects that have not been

2851
02:33:02,960 --> 02:33:05,040
approved to date. Um again, the

2852
02:33:05,040 --> 02:33:06,800
intention of that is in order to

2853
02:33:06,800 --> 02:33:08,720
facilitate those projects being able to

2854
02:33:08,720 --> 02:33:11,120
be initiated within the year. Um they

2855
02:33:11,120 --> 02:33:12,800
are some of them most of them are

2856
02:33:12,800 --> 02:33:14,800
already on somebody's project plan and

2857
02:33:14,800 --> 02:33:16,640
so until those are approved by council,

2858
02:33:16,640 --> 02:33:19,760
no work can proceed on them. And then

2859
02:33:19,760 --> 02:33:22,240
again, once council's looked at

2860
02:33:22,240 --> 02:33:23,920
everything, once council's deliberated

2861
02:33:23,920 --> 02:33:25,600
the budget, once council is comfortable

2862
02:33:25,600 --> 02:33:27,920
with where the budget is at, um,

2863
02:33:27,920 --> 02:33:29,840
administration will tie up all the loose

2864
02:33:29,840 --> 02:33:31,520
ends and put it all together in

2865
02:33:31,520 --> 02:33:33,200
schedules. That would be the final

2866
02:33:33,200 --> 02:33:35,120
budget that would be put forward for

2867
02:33:35,120 --> 02:33:38,720
council approval. Um, within that, um, I

2868
02:33:38,720 --> 02:33:41,040
know we talk about before April 30th,

2869
02:33:41,040 --> 02:33:43,040
sometime in April, the tax rate bylaw

2870
02:33:43,040 --> 02:33:45,520
also needs to be passed, um, either in

2871
02:33:45,520 --> 02:33:47,280
conjunction with the final approved

2872
02:33:47,280 --> 02:33:49,359
budget or after the final approved

2873
02:33:49,359 --> 02:33:51,040
budget, depending on where council is

2874
02:33:51,040 --> 02:33:52,880
comfortable with that and when council's

2875
02:33:52,880 --> 02:33:54,640
deliberations kind of come to a

2876
02:33:54,640 --> 02:33:57,760
conclusion. Um, we will get final

2877
02:33:57,760 --> 02:34:00,319
assessment numbers late February, early

2878
02:34:00,319 --> 02:34:02,240
March. Um, and then we can kind of look

2879
02:34:02,240 --> 02:34:04,880
at how assessment is shifted, how that

2880
02:34:04,880 --> 02:34:07,359
would impact rate payers based on the

2881
02:34:07,359 --> 02:34:09,280
distribution of assessment, whether we

2882
02:34:09,280 --> 02:34:11,040
keep a flat line over the exact same

2883
02:34:11,040 --> 02:34:13,040
amount of property tax as is currently

2884
02:34:13,040 --> 02:34:15,120
included in the budget, how that would

2885
02:34:15,120 --> 02:34:17,120
impact a residential rateayer versus a

2886
02:34:17,120 --> 02:34:18,880
farmland versus a non-residential

2887
02:34:18,880 --> 02:34:20,880
rateayer.

2888
02:34:20,880 --> 02:34:24,399
Um, yeah, so thank you for your time

2889
02:34:24,399 --> 02:34:26,800
today. Um, I am happy to answer any

2890
02:34:26,800 --> 02:34:28,399
other questions, collect any other

2891
02:34:28,399 --> 02:34:30,240
questions or guidance from council to

2892
02:34:30,240 --> 02:34:32,640
ensure what we come back with. The next

2893
02:34:32,640 --> 02:34:34,640
stage provides council with the

2894
02:34:34,640 --> 02:34:38,000
information that they need. Um, yeah,

2895
02:34:38,000 --> 02:34:39,439
thank you.

2896
02:34:39,439 --> 02:34:43,030
>> Thanks for your presentation. Um, I

2897
02:34:43,030 --> 02:34:43,040
» Thanks for your presentation. Um, I

2898
02:34:43,040 --> 02:34:44,960
actually think we need to decide what

2899
02:34:44,960 --> 02:34:46,319
we're going to do if we're going to do

2900
02:34:46,319 --> 02:34:48,319
some line item budget and take some time

2901
02:34:48,319 --> 02:34:51,280
and separate have a a couple days of a

2902
02:34:51,280 --> 02:34:55,270
budget review.

2903
02:34:55,280 --> 02:34:59,110
something to think about.

2904
02:34:59,120 --> 02:35:00,560
» Everybody okay with that? Thinking about

2905
02:35:00,560 --> 02:35:01,040
that one?

2906
02:35:01,040 --> 02:35:02,469
>> Mhm.

2907
02:35:02,469 --> 02:35:02,479
» Mhm.

2908
02:35:02,479 --> 02:35:07,110
>> Yeah, I think that'd be important.

2909
02:35:07,120 --> 02:35:09,200
» So, we we have to actually give

2910
02:35:09,200 --> 02:35:11,840
direction. So, I mean that that's the

2911
02:35:11,840 --> 02:35:13,920
direction we'd like to go. So, we we set

2912
02:35:13,920 --> 02:35:17,200
up some some times to to go through this

2913
02:35:17,200 --> 02:35:20,800
through the budget line items and uh at

2914
02:35:20,800 --> 02:35:25,510
a council at a national budget meeting

2915
02:35:25,520 --> 02:35:27,920
» as far as as far as the information

2916
02:35:27,920 --> 02:35:30,240
council C or CEO Cochran

2917
02:35:30,240 --> 02:35:32,070
>> through the reef to all of council. So,

2918
02:35:32,070 --> 02:35:32,080
» through the reef to all of council. So,

2919
02:35:32,080 --> 02:35:34,479
council's within their you know you can

2920
02:35:34,479 --> 02:35:36,080
sit with the budget but any decisions

2921
02:35:36,080 --> 02:35:37,760
you made have to be made in this council

2922
02:35:37,760 --> 02:35:40,080
chamber. So any motions, any changes?

2923
02:35:40,080 --> 02:35:42,319
Um, in my 30 years in government, I've

2924
02:35:42,319 --> 02:35:44,319
always participated in public budget

2925
02:35:44,319 --> 02:35:46,000
deliberations. This is fairly common.

2926
02:35:46,000 --> 02:35:48,800
I've never done closed door sessions

2927
02:35:48,800 --> 02:35:51,120
because anything that you debate in

2928
02:35:51,120 --> 02:35:52,560
closed doors has to be brought back to

2929
02:35:52,560 --> 02:35:54,479
the council table. You have to debate it

2930
02:35:54,479 --> 02:35:56,080
in council and you have to vote on it in

2931
02:35:56,080 --> 02:35:57,920
council. It is a public process. This is

2932
02:35:57,920 --> 02:36:00,000
a public budget and we want to ensure

2933
02:36:00,000 --> 02:36:02,240
transparency and that's why we do it in

2934
02:36:02,240 --> 02:36:04,640
a public council meeting. In response to

2935
02:36:04,640 --> 02:36:08,000
your your your response uh council or

2936
02:36:08,000 --> 02:36:11,040
CEO Cochran yeah that's correct we will

2937
02:36:11,040 --> 02:36:12,560
be doing approving the budget in the

2938
02:36:12,560 --> 02:36:15,200
council meeting but prior to that there

2939
02:36:15,200 --> 02:36:17,280
is stuff that we need to go through this

2940
02:36:17,280 --> 02:36:19,359
budget line item by line item and we

2941
02:36:19,359 --> 02:36:22,720
need to put forth what we feel is the

2942
02:36:22,720 --> 02:36:25,680
budget what we feel needs to be cut what

2943
02:36:25,680 --> 02:36:29,680
we feel were p where costs need to be

2944
02:36:29,680 --> 02:36:32,160
taken out andor things need to be

2945
02:36:32,160 --> 02:36:34,319
changed and in order for us to do that,

2946
02:36:34,319 --> 02:36:36,640
we cannot do that in a public meeting

2947
02:36:36,640 --> 02:36:38,240
because there could be we could be

2948
02:36:38,240 --> 02:36:43,120
affecting people and people's jobs.

2949
02:36:43,120 --> 02:36:45,920
That's why we do it on a separate

2950
02:36:45,920 --> 02:36:47,920
meeting and then we come out and then we

2951
02:36:47,920 --> 02:36:50,160
come out out of out of that and we bring

2952
02:36:50,160 --> 02:36:51,760
forth that the budget that we came

2953
02:36:51,760 --> 02:36:56,710
through in in a council meeting.

2954
02:36:56,720 --> 02:36:58,960
» Councelor Dunningham.

2955
02:36:58,960 --> 02:37:01,439
So, didn't do I can't even remember if

2956
02:37:01,439 --> 02:37:03,359
we did this last term, but would my

2957
02:37:03,359 --> 02:37:04,960
understanding be that we would call a

2958
02:37:04,960 --> 02:37:06,640
special meeting of council to go over

2959
02:37:06,640 --> 02:37:08,399
budget like it would be an additional

2960
02:37:08,399 --> 02:37:10,560
meeting that we add to the schedule. Is

2961
02:37:10,560 --> 02:37:11,840
that correct?

2962
02:37:11,840 --> 02:37:13,670
>> Uh through the reef tall of council that

2963
02:37:13,670 --> 02:37:13,680
» Uh through the reef tall of council that

2964
02:37:13,680 --> 02:37:15,200
would still be a public meeting.

2965
02:37:15,200 --> 02:37:15,590
>> Yes.

2966
02:37:15,590 --> 02:37:15,600
» Yes.

2967
02:37:15,600 --> 02:37:17,190
>> Yeah. Absolutely. And that is the

2968
02:37:17,190 --> 02:37:17,200
» Yeah. Absolutely. And that is the

2969
02:37:17,200 --> 02:37:18,560
preferred is that council budget

2970
02:37:18,560 --> 02:37:20,560
deliberations are in a public meeting

2971
02:37:20,560 --> 02:37:22,640
where you're able to discuss, provide

2972
02:37:22,640 --> 02:37:25,040
motions and vote. um that is critical

2973
02:37:25,040 --> 02:37:27,680
for the the process for transparency and

2974
02:37:27,680 --> 02:37:28,560
for governance

2975
02:37:28,560 --> 02:37:30,150
>> with the ability to move into close

2976
02:37:30,150 --> 02:37:30,160
» with the ability to move into close

2977
02:37:30,160 --> 02:37:30,800
session.

2978
02:37:30,800 --> 02:37:32,469
>> Absolutely. Yes. Through the brief if

2979
02:37:32,469 --> 02:37:32,479
» Absolutely. Yes. Through the brief if

2980
02:37:32,479 --> 02:37:34,160
we're talking about personnel or changes

2981
02:37:34,160 --> 02:37:36,160
to personnel or salary budgets we would

2982
02:37:36,160 --> 02:37:38,319
move into camera. We certainly would not

2983
02:37:38,319 --> 02:37:41,120
be talking about people's positions but

2984
02:37:41,120 --> 02:37:42,640
one way or another whether you come in

2985
02:37:42,640 --> 02:37:44,560
or out of the chamber you still have to

2986
02:37:44,560 --> 02:37:46,160
make the motion. So at some point people

2987
02:37:46,160 --> 02:37:48,000
are going to recognize that we've made

2988
02:37:48,000 --> 02:37:49,600
decisions or you've made decisions

2989
02:37:49,600 --> 02:37:51,680
related to their positions. That is part

2990
02:37:51,680 --> 02:37:53,359
of the job. It's part of the way we do

2991
02:37:53,359 --> 02:38:00,950
budgets.

2992
02:38:00,960 --> 02:38:06,389
» Any other concerns or questions?

2993
02:38:06,399 --> 02:38:09,280
» Do we need a motion to set up the

2994
02:38:09,280 --> 02:38:12,240
meeting ahead of time? Okay.

2995
02:38:12,240 --> 02:38:13,840
I think we should, if we're going to do

2996
02:38:13,840 --> 02:38:20,630
it, we have to propose that meeting.

2997
02:38:20,640 --> 02:38:24,240
I move that we have a uh

2998
02:38:24,240 --> 02:38:29,040
budget meeting with council and in due

2999
02:38:29,040 --> 02:38:35,200
to to proper procedures special

3000
02:38:35,200 --> 02:38:37,280
budget

3001
02:38:37,280 --> 02:38:39,830
>> are we talking are we talking with in c

3002
02:38:39,830 --> 02:38:39,840
» are we talking are we talking with in c

3003
02:38:39,840 --> 02:38:42,960
or uh online or are we talking just

3004
02:38:42,960 --> 02:38:43,920
separate

3005
02:38:43,920 --> 02:38:45,830
>> well we have to go online by what

3006
02:38:45,830 --> 02:38:45,840
» well we have to go online by what

3007
02:38:45,840 --> 02:38:48,790
>> well we don't have to go online Okay.

3008
02:38:48,790 --> 02:38:48,800
» well we don't have to go online Okay.

3009
02:38:48,800 --> 02:38:50,230
>> We actually don't

3010
02:38:50,230 --> 02:38:50,240
» We actually don't

3011
02:38:50,240 --> 02:38:52,230
>> like I I understand where you're coming

3012
02:38:52,230 --> 02:38:52,240
» like I I understand where you're coming

3013
02:38:52,240 --> 02:38:54,479
from, but when we're going to sit down

3014
02:38:54,479 --> 02:38:57,040
and discuss things, we we're going to go

3015
02:38:57,040 --> 02:38:59,520
into a strategic plan that we don't

3016
02:38:59,520 --> 02:39:01,600
we're not in in line or in a special

3017
02:39:01,600 --> 02:39:04,479
meeting. We're not in a council meeting.

3018
02:39:04,479 --> 02:39:06,479
We're going to talk strategic planning.

3019
02:39:06,479 --> 02:39:06,870
>> Yeah.

3020
02:39:06,870 --> 02:39:06,880
» Yeah.

3021
02:39:06,880 --> 02:39:10,950
>> That's by ourselves.

3022
02:39:10,960 --> 02:39:13,040
CEO Cochran

3023
02:39:13,040 --> 02:39:14,870
>> uh through the re strategic planning is

3024
02:39:14,870 --> 02:39:14,880
» uh through the re strategic planning is

3025
02:39:14,880 --> 02:39:16,640
done in a as a meeting of council but

3026
02:39:16,640 --> 02:39:18,560
any decisions made are then made public

3027
02:39:18,560 --> 02:39:20,399
through a strategic plan that council

3028
02:39:20,399 --> 02:39:22,800
has said is your priority areas. Those

3029
02:39:22,800 --> 02:39:24,640
are highle outcomes that don't direct

3030
02:39:24,640 --> 02:39:26,960
the budget from those highle outcomes.

3031
02:39:26,960 --> 02:39:28,800
Then we align the budget to the business

3032
02:39:28,800 --> 02:39:31,600
plan. So if you said your biggest goal

3033
02:39:31,600 --> 02:39:33,920
was roads you would then assign the

3034
02:39:33,920 --> 02:39:35,520
budgets towards roads. But within

3035
02:39:35,520 --> 02:39:37,439
strategic planning there's no budgetary

3036
02:39:37,439 --> 02:39:39,600
decisions being made. It's it's talking

3037
02:39:39,600 --> 02:39:41,120
about what are your values, your goals,

3038
02:39:41,120 --> 02:39:42,720
your mission, what things do you want to

3039
02:39:42,720 --> 02:39:44,560
work on for the next four years. But it

3040
02:39:44,560 --> 02:39:46,720
doesn't assign budget. And that's where

3041
02:39:46,720 --> 02:39:48,800
we want to be transparent with our

3042
02:39:48,800 --> 02:39:50,399
decision-m when we're looking at the

3043
02:39:50,399 --> 02:39:52,479
budget that the public is responsible.

3044
02:39:52,479 --> 02:39:53,990
>> We are going to be transparent with

3045
02:39:53,990 --> 02:39:54,000
» We are going to be transparent with

3046
02:39:54,000 --> 02:39:56,240
that. When we come back out of a meeting

3047
02:39:56,240 --> 02:39:57,840
and decide what which way we're going to

3048
02:39:57,840 --> 02:39:59,359
go, what things we're going to look at,

3049
02:39:59,359 --> 02:40:01,040
we'll bring that forth into a council

3050
02:40:01,040 --> 02:40:03,359
meeting and we will discuss it and we

3051
02:40:03,359 --> 02:40:05,840
will vote on it. But in the meantime and

3052
02:40:05,840 --> 02:40:08,080
in between time prior to going into into

3053
02:40:08,080 --> 02:40:11,120
close session every 10 minutes

3054
02:40:11,120 --> 02:40:15,200
I mean why can't we do it that way?

3055
02:40:15,200 --> 02:40:18,080
Councelor uh

3056
02:40:18,080 --> 02:40:21,590
>> Benner

3057
02:40:21,600 --> 02:40:23,439
» I think if I'm understanding the read

3058
02:40:23,439 --> 02:40:25,280
correctly

3059
02:40:25,280 --> 02:40:27,040
what we probably should be thinking

3060
02:40:27,040 --> 02:40:29,760
about is the council as a whole meeting

3061
02:40:29,760 --> 02:40:32,479
where we can informally discuss where we

3062
02:40:32,479 --> 02:40:36,950
want

3063
02:40:36,960 --> 02:40:41,040
some of our vision towards the budget.

3064
02:40:41,040 --> 02:40:42,560
If you if you're looking for that

3065
02:40:42,560 --> 02:40:44,880
private meeting, would would that be an

3066
02:40:44,880 --> 02:40:45,760
acceptable?

3067
02:40:45,760 --> 02:40:47,349
>> The only thing is the only thing is

3068
02:40:47,349 --> 02:40:47,359
» The only thing is the only thing is

3069
02:40:47,359 --> 02:40:49,200
there, councelor Penner, is that the

3070
02:40:49,200 --> 02:40:50,720
council of the whole the way it's set up

3071
02:40:50,720 --> 02:40:53,840
now is you're still live streamed,

3072
02:40:53,840 --> 02:40:54,550
>> right?

3073
02:40:54,550 --> 02:40:54,560
» right?

3074
02:40:54,560 --> 02:40:58,469
>> That's the problem, council Olsson.

3075
02:40:58,469 --> 02:40:58,479
» That's the problem, council Olsson.

3076
02:40:58,479 --> 02:41:03,920
So I guess yeah I understand what uh

3077
02:41:03,920 --> 02:41:06,880
uh CAO uh

3078
02:41:06,880 --> 02:41:09,920
is speaking about but can we not have

3079
02:41:09,920 --> 02:41:11,680
discussion

3080
02:41:11,680 --> 02:41:17,120
um about things? I know if decisions

3081
02:41:17,120 --> 02:41:20,080
that has to be in a in a regular council

3082
02:41:20,080 --> 02:41:22,640
meeting or a special meeting, but just

3083
02:41:22,640 --> 02:41:24,240
discussion.

3084
02:41:24,240 --> 02:41:25,840
Um

3085
02:41:25,840 --> 02:41:29,439
I guess we need to specify the

3086
02:41:29,439 --> 02:41:32,160
definition of discussion versus

3087
02:41:32,160 --> 02:41:34,800
decision.

3088
02:41:34,800 --> 02:41:36,800
I I don't know if that helps or not or

3089
02:41:36,800 --> 02:41:39,359
makes it more confusing.

3090
02:41:39,359 --> 02:41:40,640
Councelor Cunningham,

3091
02:41:40,640 --> 02:41:42,150
>> I could be wrong on this, but my

3092
02:41:42,150 --> 02:41:42,160
» I could be wrong on this, but my

3093
02:41:42,160 --> 02:41:44,160
understanding always is if you have

3094
02:41:44,160 --> 02:41:46,399
quorum, it's a meeting, right? And it

3095
02:41:46,399 --> 02:41:48,640
has to be public and it has to be

3096
02:41:48,640 --> 02:41:51,680
advertised. Um, and I think we have to

3097
02:41:51,680 --> 02:41:54,720
be careful about that piece. So, um, I

3098
02:41:54,720 --> 02:41:56,319
could see us having further discussions

3099
02:41:56,319 --> 02:41:59,120
at CA or I mean, like I said, last I

3100
02:41:59,120 --> 02:42:00,880
think it was last term, we we did talk

3101
02:42:00,880 --> 02:42:02,399
about maybe doing the special meetings

3102
02:42:02,399 --> 02:42:03,680
for budget just like other

3103
02:42:03,680 --> 02:42:05,200
municipalities do to give that extra

3104
02:42:05,200 --> 02:42:07,120
time. And being that this is a new

3105
02:42:07,120 --> 02:42:09,040
council, perhaps that's a good it's not

3106
02:42:09,040 --> 02:42:10,640
a bad thing to have an extra meeting to

3107
02:42:10,640 --> 02:42:13,200
go through. But um like I said, we do

3108
02:42:13,200 --> 02:42:14,720
have the ability when we're talking

3109
02:42:14,720 --> 02:42:16,319
sensitive to go into those closed

3110
02:42:16,319 --> 02:42:18,640
sessions. But if you've got quorum, it's

3111
02:42:18,640 --> 02:42:27,349
a meeting and it has to be held as such.

3112
02:42:27,359 --> 02:42:28,880
One of the things that I'm not getting

3113
02:42:28,880 --> 02:42:31,600
at this place is it seems like we can't

3114
02:42:31,600 --> 02:42:33,359
have a meeting anywhere to discuss

3115
02:42:33,359 --> 02:42:36,560
anything other than in close session.

3116
02:42:36,560 --> 02:42:39,200
And that to me is wrong. If we decide to

3117
02:42:39,200 --> 02:42:41,280
have a separate meeting to discuss other

3118
02:42:41,280 --> 02:42:43,840
things within this county and bring that

3119
02:42:43,840 --> 02:42:45,840
back where we make decisions into a

3120
02:42:45,840 --> 02:42:48,240
council meeting, that that's how it

3121
02:42:48,240 --> 02:42:50,880
should be. But to sit here and say that

3122
02:42:50,880 --> 02:42:53,200
we can't have we can't have a discussion

3123
02:42:53,200 --> 02:42:55,200
where we can't sit down as counselors in

3124
02:42:55,200 --> 02:42:56,800
a separate meeting and have discussion

3125
02:42:56,800 --> 02:42:58,640
about stuff that just doesn't that

3126
02:42:58,640 --> 02:43:01,120
doesn't meet my criteria on what we're

3127
02:43:01,120 --> 02:43:03,120
supposed to be doing. I mean, yes, I

3128
02:43:03,120 --> 02:43:04,960
know we're it's going to be transparent.

3129
02:43:04,960 --> 02:43:06,880
We have to bring it back in. But the

3130
02:43:06,880 --> 02:43:08,479
other side of the coin, too, is we can't

3131
02:43:08,479 --> 02:43:10,640
discuss a lot of this stuff that is

3132
02:43:10,640 --> 02:43:12,319
sensitive

3133
02:43:12,319 --> 02:43:14,319
in the open.

3134
02:43:14,319 --> 02:43:17,040
Everybody is so poisoned around here

3135
02:43:17,040 --> 02:43:18,960
about you can't say this, you can't do

3136
02:43:18,960 --> 02:43:20,399
that, you can't do this, you can't do

3137
02:43:20,399 --> 02:43:23,040
this. This is the frustrating part of

3138
02:43:23,040 --> 02:43:25,600
it. And I mean, everybody sees it, not

3139
02:43:25,600 --> 02:43:27,920
just us. The rateayers see it. So, I'm

3140
02:43:27,920 --> 02:43:30,560
glad we're having this conversation.

3141
02:43:30,560 --> 02:43:33,040
Any

3142
02:43:33,040 --> 02:43:38,389
other councelor Woodstock?

3143
02:43:38,399 --> 02:43:41,920
» So if you have a discussion and come up

3144
02:43:41,920 --> 02:43:43,439
with

3145
02:43:43,439 --> 02:43:45,760
a solution

3146
02:43:45,760 --> 02:43:50,150
that is a public meeting

3147
02:43:50,160 --> 02:43:52,960
like that is a council meeting. If you

3148
02:43:52,960 --> 02:43:54,640
want to have a discussion in closed

3149
02:43:54,640 --> 02:43:57,359
session you have that through a council

3150
02:43:57,359 --> 02:43:59,840
meeting. But what you're proposing is

3151
02:43:59,840 --> 02:44:03,600
that we have a discussion on the budget,

3152
02:44:03,600 --> 02:44:06,080
not in a council meeting, not in a

3153
02:44:06,080 --> 02:44:09,200
closed session, but not in the open for

3154
02:44:09,200 --> 02:44:12,720
residents to

3155
02:44:12,720 --> 02:44:15,040
watch, I guess, is where you're going

3156
02:44:15,040 --> 02:44:15,680
with it.

3157
02:44:15,680 --> 02:44:16,790
>> That's where I'm going with it. And it's

3158
02:44:16,790 --> 02:44:16,800
» That's where I'm going with it. And it's

3159
02:44:16,800 --> 02:44:18,560
not that's where I'm going with it. And

3160
02:44:18,560 --> 02:44:20,160
because of the

3161
02:44:20,160 --> 02:44:23,110
>> discussion, make decisions

3162
02:44:23,110 --> 02:44:23,120
» discussion, make decisions

3163
02:44:23,120 --> 02:44:26,800
not in a public open forum.

3164
02:44:26,800 --> 02:44:28,800
We can discuss whatever we want, right?

3165
02:44:28,800 --> 02:44:31,040
And bring it forth into into a public.

3166
02:44:31,040 --> 02:44:33,030
>> No. Then you've made a decision.

3167
02:44:33,030 --> 02:44:33,040
» No. Then you've made a decision.

3168
02:44:33,040 --> 02:44:35,349
>> Okay. So, here's an example. Let's talk

3169
02:44:35,349 --> 02:44:35,359
» Okay. So, here's an example. Let's talk

3170
02:44:35,359 --> 02:44:37,359
while we're on this.

3171
02:44:37,359 --> 02:44:39,110
>> I'm not here to argue with you. What I'm

3172
02:44:39,110 --> 02:44:39,120
» I'm not here to argue with you. What I'm

3173
02:44:39,120 --> 02:44:41,760
trying to do is according to the MGA,

3174
02:44:41,760 --> 02:44:43,920
any discussions that we as a council

3175
02:44:43,920 --> 02:44:48,720
have in a council meeting has to be a

3176
02:44:48,720 --> 02:44:50,560
public meeting.

3177
02:44:50,560 --> 02:44:53,040
So when you set up the cow meeting for

3178
02:44:53,040 --> 02:44:55,920
an example, the cow meetings never used

3179
02:44:55,920 --> 02:45:00,160
to be uh on TV or on on the

3180
02:45:00,160 --> 02:45:02,790
>> they were public meetings.

3181
02:45:02,790 --> 02:45:02,800
» they were public meetings.

3182
02:45:02,800 --> 02:45:04,630
>> No, they weren't when they originally

3183
02:45:04,630 --> 02:45:04,640
» No, they weren't when they originally

3184
02:45:04,640 --> 02:45:05,760
set up.

3185
02:45:05,760 --> 02:45:06,070
>> Yeah.

3186
02:45:06,070 --> 02:45:06,080
» Yeah.

3187
02:45:06,080 --> 02:45:07,110
>> Public is open.

3188
02:45:07,110 --> 02:45:07,120
» Public is open.

3189
02:45:07,120 --> 02:45:09,590
>> You anybody could attend a

3190
02:45:09,590 --> 02:45:09,600
» You anybody could attend a

3191
02:45:09,600 --> 02:45:11,830
>> committee of the whole meeting

3192
02:45:11,830 --> 02:45:11,840
» committee of the whole meeting

3193
02:45:11,840 --> 02:45:12,790
>> sitting here.

3194
02:45:12,790 --> 02:45:12,800
» sitting here.

3195
02:45:12,800 --> 02:45:13,110
>> Yep.

3196
02:45:13,110 --> 02:45:13,120
» Yep.

3197
02:45:13,120 --> 02:45:19,269
>> And then eventually it went to camera.

3198
02:45:19,279 --> 02:45:20,080
Teresa.

3199
02:45:20,080 --> 02:45:21,510
>> Okay.

3200
02:45:21,510 --> 02:45:21,520
» Okay.

3201
02:45:21,520 --> 02:45:24,070
>> Conversation. Yeah, I I'll I can we're

3202
02:45:24,070 --> 02:45:24,080
» Conversation. Yeah, I I'll I can we're

3203
02:45:24,080 --> 02:45:25,439
having some conversation here and that's

3204
02:45:25,439 --> 02:45:28,640
what this is about. So, uh CEO Cochran,

3205
02:45:28,640 --> 02:45:29,910
>> thank you. Through the brief to all of

3206
02:45:29,910 --> 02:45:29,920
» thank you. Through the brief to all of

3207
02:45:29,920 --> 02:45:31,760
council, just looking up the MGA. The

3208
02:45:31,760 --> 02:45:33,520
MISMA government act requires council

3209
02:45:33,520 --> 02:45:35,760
meetings to be public. All meetings of

3210
02:45:35,760 --> 02:45:37,359
council must be conducted in public

3211
02:45:37,359 --> 02:45:39,359
unless discussion falls under limited

3212
02:45:39,359 --> 02:45:41,279
exceptions that allow a closed inc

3213
02:45:41,279 --> 02:45:42,880
camera session. These exceptions must

3214
02:45:42,880 --> 02:45:44,720
align with the privacy protections and

3215
02:45:44,720 --> 02:45:47,680
freedom of information act and budget

3216
02:45:47,680 --> 02:45:50,080
deliberations do not fall under any FOIP

3217
02:45:50,080 --> 02:45:51,520
allowed closed meeting exceptions such

3218
02:45:51,520 --> 02:45:54,240
as personnel matters legal privilege or

3219
02:45:54,240 --> 02:45:57,120
land negotiation. So the MGA is clear

3220
02:45:57,120 --> 02:45:58,800
these meetings have to be held in

3221
02:45:58,800 --> 02:46:03,030
public.

3222
02:46:03,040 --> 02:46:06,720
» Okay, councelor Olson.

3223
02:46:06,720 --> 02:46:08,870
>> Okay. Yeah, I guess if that's the case

3224
02:46:08,870 --> 02:46:08,880
» Okay. Yeah, I guess if that's the case

3225
02:46:08,880 --> 02:46:12,240
then let's uh let's do it. I mean, uh,

3226
02:46:12,240 --> 02:46:14,399
we can go into close session, but it's

3227
02:46:14,399 --> 02:46:16,080
going to take it's going to take more

3228
02:46:16,080 --> 02:46:18,319
than just a regular council meeting. So,

3229
02:46:18,319 --> 02:46:21,520
and if we're into it, then it should be

3230
02:46:21,520 --> 02:46:24,240
a special meeting. You know, there

3231
02:46:24,240 --> 02:46:25,680
should be two days. A regular council

3232
02:46:25,680 --> 02:46:27,279
meeting and then on the budget and then

3233
02:46:27,279 --> 02:46:29,040
special meeting the next day or

3234
02:46:29,040 --> 02:46:30,560
something just so we can get through all

3235
02:46:30,560 --> 02:46:33,439
of it. That's that's my thinking. But,

3236
02:46:33,439 --> 02:46:35,439
yeah, if we got to if we got to do it, I

3237
02:46:35,439 --> 02:46:40,080
just uh Yeah, I I agree. If there's

3238
02:46:40,080 --> 02:46:41,359
sensitive stuff, we're going to be going

3239
02:46:41,359 --> 02:46:43,840
in and out of camera all the time or

3240
02:46:43,840 --> 02:46:45,680
it's just because if you're talking

3241
02:46:45,680 --> 02:46:48,160
about getting rid of hypothetically

3242
02:46:48,160 --> 02:46:51,359
hypothetically a whole a whole division

3243
02:46:51,359 --> 02:46:55,200
or a whole, you know, I'm just say I'm

3244
02:46:55,200 --> 02:46:56,880
just saying, you know, that's that's

3245
02:46:56,880 --> 02:46:58,720
going to affect people and they're going

3246
02:46:58,720 --> 02:47:00,720
to be online and and and it's going to

3247
02:47:00,720 --> 02:47:04,560
it's going to you know, I

3248
02:47:04,560 --> 02:47:06,240
yeah, you know what it's going to bring.

3249
02:47:06,240 --> 02:47:08,399
So

3250
02:47:08,399 --> 02:47:09,510
>> that's what we're here for.

3251
02:47:09,510 --> 02:47:09,520
» that's what we're here for.

3252
02:47:09,520 --> 02:47:12,070
>> That's that's right. The other side of

3253
02:47:12,070 --> 02:47:12,080
» That's that's right. The other side of

3254
02:47:12,080 --> 02:47:13,600
the coin is is we're here to have these

3255
02:47:13,600 --> 02:47:15,279
conversations and and the frustration

3256
02:47:15,279 --> 02:47:16,720
part of it. That's fine if you want to.

3257
02:47:16,720 --> 02:47:19,359
We we can do it that way. But prior to

3258
02:47:19,359 --> 02:47:21,359
that, I think we should make note and

3259
02:47:21,359 --> 02:47:23,680
and let all the rateayers know that this

3260
02:47:23,680 --> 02:47:26,399
is why we're going in to close session

3261
02:47:26,399 --> 02:47:28,479
because everybody out there right now is

3262
02:47:28,479 --> 02:47:30,399
poed on a lot of these close session

3263
02:47:30,399 --> 02:47:33,040
meetings. And not that they they don't

3264
02:47:33,040 --> 02:47:35,040
understand why we have to do it.

3265
02:47:35,040 --> 02:47:37,760
basically. So the less closed sessions

3266
02:47:37,760 --> 02:47:41,279
the better I feel. But that being said,

3267
02:47:41,279 --> 02:47:43,439
I'm pretty sure we can direct the

3268
02:47:43,439 --> 02:47:45,680
everybody that is watching that that's

3269
02:47:45,680 --> 02:47:47,920
what we're doing. So

3270
02:47:47,920 --> 02:47:54,790
any more discussion?

3271
02:47:54,800 --> 02:47:56,800
You want to Merl I'm pardon me for

3272
02:47:56,800 --> 02:48:03,910
interrupting your motion.

3273
02:48:03,920 --> 02:48:07,990
Do you want to read it again?

3274
02:48:08,000 --> 02:48:11,120
» No. I can move that the council direct

3275
02:48:11,120 --> 02:48:14,000
administration to bring back the 2026

3276
02:48:14,000 --> 02:48:16,640
proposed operating budget discussion to

3277
02:48:16,640 --> 02:48:21,910
a special meeting of council

3278
02:48:21,920 --> 02:48:23,600
whether it's one day or two.

3279
02:48:23,600 --> 02:48:26,550
>> Councelor Cunningham. So, just to um a

3280
02:48:26,550 --> 02:48:26,560
» Councelor Cunningham. So, just to um a

3281
02:48:26,560 --> 02:48:28,720
question for CEO Cochran. Um can you

3282
02:48:28,720 --> 02:48:30,399
just remind me with special meetings we

3283
02:48:30,399 --> 02:48:32,240
we give the public a certain amount of

3284
02:48:32,240 --> 02:48:33,680
notice? Is it two weeks notice? I just

3285
02:48:33,680 --> 02:48:34,960
can't remember off the top of my head.

3286
02:48:34,960 --> 02:48:36,640
24 hours. Oh, that's all. Okay. Thank

3287
02:48:36,640 --> 02:48:38,160
you,

3288
02:48:38,160 --> 02:48:39,510
>> Councelor Hoppins.

3289
02:48:39,510 --> 02:48:39,520
» Councelor Hoppins.

3290
02:48:39,520 --> 02:48:44,469
>> Uh just a note on that. I'm reading that

3291
02:48:44,469 --> 02:48:44,479
» Uh just a note on that. I'm reading that

3292
02:48:44,479 --> 02:48:47,680
uh special council meeting called under

3293
02:48:47,680 --> 02:48:50,479
subsection 1B must be held within 14

3294
02:48:50,479 --> 02:48:52,319
days after the date that the chief

3295
02:48:52,319 --> 02:48:54,560
elected official re received their

3296
02:48:54,560 --> 02:48:59,269
receives the request

3297
02:48:59,279 --> 02:49:01,680
which means

3298
02:49:01,680 --> 02:49:03,439
the special meeting will have to happen

3299
02:49:03,439 --> 02:49:18,870
within 14 days of this motion of today.

3300
02:49:18,880 --> 02:49:20,240
Councelor Benner,

3301
02:49:20,240 --> 02:49:22,150
>> the only comment that I would make is

3302
02:49:22,150 --> 02:49:22,160
» the only comment that I would make is

3303
02:49:22,160 --> 02:49:24,800
that there will be two counselors that

3304
02:49:24,800 --> 02:49:27,040
won't be available for those meetings in

3305
02:49:27,040 --> 02:49:46,070
the month of February.

3306
02:49:46,080 --> 02:49:49,120
How is that going to affect CEO CEO

3307
02:49:49,120 --> 02:49:51,200
Cochran? How's that going to affect the

3308
02:49:51,200 --> 02:49:55,439
uh if we car if we carried on with four

3309
02:49:55,439 --> 02:49:58,319
counselors rather than well five I guess

3310
02:49:58,319 --> 02:49:59,040
right

3311
02:49:59,040 --> 02:50:00,469
>> through the reef tall of council as long

3312
02:50:00,469 --> 02:50:00,479
» through the reef tall of council as long

3313
02:50:00,479 --> 02:50:01,920
as you have quorum you're free to move

3314
02:50:01,920 --> 02:50:03,520
forward.

3315
02:50:03,520 --> 02:50:07,030
>> Okay. Merl or councelor Olsen. Uh

3316
02:50:07,030 --> 02:50:07,040
» Okay. Merl or councelor Olsen. Uh

3317
02:50:07,040 --> 02:50:10,399
councelor uh Anderson,

3318
02:50:10,399 --> 02:50:13,990
is there any

3319
02:50:14,000 --> 02:50:16,000
else you'd like to add to that? Or are

3320
02:50:16,000 --> 02:50:17,840
we okay with that that motion? Everybody

3321
02:50:17,840 --> 02:50:21,040
okay with that motion or do you

3322
02:50:21,040 --> 02:50:23,359
councelor Woodstock?

3323
02:50:23,359 --> 02:50:25,830
>> I guess I would just like to find out

3324
02:50:25,830 --> 02:50:25,840
» I guess I would just like to find out

3325
02:50:25,840 --> 02:50:29,359
when counselors are available to have

3326
02:50:29,359 --> 02:50:31,920
these and when are we looking to

3327
02:50:31,920 --> 02:50:34,240
actually go ahead with this? Are we

3328
02:50:34,240 --> 02:50:36,640
looking to wait? Are we looking to get

3329
02:50:36,640 --> 02:50:39,439
it done in the next week or so? Like I

3330
02:50:39,439 --> 02:50:42,399
know I'm going to be gone. I think

3331
02:50:42,399 --> 02:50:44,080
councelor Penner is gone. I think

3332
02:50:44,080 --> 02:50:46,720
councelor Olsen is gone. I think you're

3333
02:50:46,720 --> 02:50:49,840
leaving 12th of February.

3334
02:50:49,840 --> 02:50:51,830
>> Yeah.

3335
02:50:51,830 --> 02:50:51,840
» Yeah.

3336
02:50:51,840 --> 02:50:55,750
>> And I'm I think I'm out the 16th.

3337
02:50:55,750 --> 02:50:55,760
» And I'm I think I'm out the 16th.

3338
02:50:55,760 --> 02:50:57,279
Council

3339
02:50:57,279 --> 02:50:59,990
>> Councelor Penner, you're

3340
02:50:59,990 --> 02:51:00,000
» Councelor Penner, you're

3341
02:51:00,000 --> 02:51:02,550
>> on the eth.

3342
02:51:02,550 --> 02:51:02,560
» on the eth.

3343
02:51:02,560 --> 02:51:04,399
So, I don't know what the rest of you

3344
02:51:04,399 --> 02:51:07,439
guys' schedules are like, but I'm

3345
02:51:07,439 --> 02:51:09,200
thinking if we're doing this, we should

3346
02:51:09,200 --> 02:51:12,560
probably leave leave it sometime prior

3347
02:51:12,560 --> 02:51:14,800
to the ETH then. I don't know. I'm I'm

3348
02:51:14,800 --> 02:51:16,720
not scheduling anybody's time here. I'm

3349
02:51:16,720 --> 02:51:18,319
just asking.

3350
02:51:18,319 --> 02:51:19,990
>> Well, I mean, that's what it's about. We

3351
02:51:19,990 --> 02:51:20,000
» Well, I mean, that's what it's about. We

3352
02:51:20,000 --> 02:51:24,640
got to work around it, right? So, um,

3353
02:51:24,640 --> 02:51:27,750
>> councelor or councelor CEO

3354
02:51:27,750 --> 02:51:27,760
» councelor or councelor CEO

3355
02:51:27,760 --> 02:51:29,040
Cochran.

3356
02:51:29,040 --> 02:51:30,070
>> Thank you. you through the reef of

3357
02:51:30,070 --> 02:51:30,080
» Thank you. you through the reef of

3358
02:51:30,080 --> 02:51:31,520
council. We do have a strategic planning

3359
02:51:31,520 --> 02:51:33,120
session scheduled for February 2nd. We

3360
02:51:33,120 --> 02:51:35,040
can repurpose to budget and do strategic

3361
02:51:35,040 --> 02:51:37,359
planning thereafter. Um I think in this

3362
02:51:37,359 --> 02:51:38,720
current state we are collecting

3363
02:51:38,720 --> 02:51:40,800
information around strategic planning.

3364
02:51:40,800 --> 02:51:42,479
Um but it is a meeting that's already

3365
02:51:42,479 --> 02:51:47,190
booked that you may want to repurpose.

3366
02:51:47,200 --> 02:51:49,200
» Uh my thought is is I don't want to

3367
02:51:49,200 --> 02:51:51,840
repurpose that one. Um the reason reason

3368
02:51:51,840 --> 02:51:53,439
being is the sooner we get that

3369
02:51:53,439 --> 02:51:55,040
direction out the better it is. We can

3370
02:51:55,040 --> 02:51:56,720
probably hang on and wait a little

3371
02:51:56,720 --> 02:51:58,319
longer for this other meeting with the

3372
02:51:58,319 --> 02:52:01,200
budget. Correct. We We got time

3373
02:52:01,200 --> 02:52:02,950
>> and we can and we can maybe see where

3374
02:52:02,950 --> 02:52:02,960
» and we can and we can maybe see where

3375
02:52:02,960 --> 02:52:05,439
everybody's sitting on that.

3376
02:52:05,439 --> 02:52:06,389
>> We just Yeah.

3377
02:52:06,389 --> 02:52:06,399
» We just Yeah.

3378
02:52:06,399 --> 02:52:06,710
>> Yeah.

3379
02:52:06,710 --> 02:52:06,720
» Yeah.

3380
02:52:06,720 --> 02:52:06,950
>> Yeah.

3381
02:52:06,950 --> 02:52:06,960
» Yeah.

3382
02:52:06,960 --> 02:52:08,070
>> Yeah. Through the re as long as you

3383
02:52:08,070 --> 02:52:08,080
» Yeah. Through the re as long as you

3384
02:52:08,080 --> 02:52:09,040
don't put this motion forward.

3385
02:52:09,040 --> 02:52:10,000
Otherwise, we have to do that.

3386
02:52:10,000 --> 02:52:11,910
>> That's what I'm saying. Could we table a

3387
02:52:11,910 --> 02:52:11,920
» That's what I'm saying. Could we table a

3388
02:52:11,920 --> 02:52:15,120
discussion on this or or for till we get

3389
02:52:15,120 --> 02:52:17,279
more information?

3390
02:52:17,279 --> 02:52:24,550
I resend the motion

3391
02:52:24,560 --> 02:52:44,870
due to times and people.

3392
02:52:44,880 --> 02:52:48,160
Yeah, I'm available the third.

3393
02:52:48,160 --> 02:52:56,469
>> February or the 5th.

3394
02:52:56,479 --> 02:52:58,240
» So, when's the strategic meeting? The

3395
02:52:58,240 --> 02:52:58,640
second.

3396
02:52:58,640 --> 02:52:59,190
>> Second.

3397
02:52:59,190 --> 02:52:59,200
» Second.

3398
02:52:59,200 --> 02:53:01,030
>> Okay. I'm available the third then as

3399
02:53:01,030 --> 02:53:01,040
» Okay. I'm available the third then as

3400
02:53:01,040 --> 02:53:02,160
well. So,

3401
02:53:02,160 --> 02:53:05,030
>> yeah, I'm okay there. The third, fourth,

3402
02:53:05,030 --> 02:53:05,040
» yeah, I'm okay there. The third, fourth,

3403
02:53:05,040 --> 02:53:06,240
fifth.

3404
02:53:06,240 --> 02:53:08,150
>> Third works.

3405
02:53:08,150 --> 02:53:08,160
» Third works.

3406
02:53:08,160 --> 02:53:10,720
Third works for everybody.

3407
02:53:10,720 --> 02:53:13,030
>> Okay.

3408
02:53:13,030 --> 02:53:13,040
» Okay.

3409
02:53:13,040 --> 02:53:14,950
>> Third.

3410
02:53:14,950 --> 02:53:14,960
» Third.

3411
02:53:14,960 --> 02:53:21,110
>> Yeah.

3412
02:53:21,120 --> 02:53:23,920
» I was just going to say my only thoughts

3413
02:53:23,920 --> 02:53:26,720
with booking that date is just due to,

3414
02:53:26,720 --> 02:53:28,240
you know, the holidays that people have

3415
02:53:28,240 --> 02:53:30,000
coming up, we probably would be looking

3416
02:53:30,000 --> 02:53:32,560
into March, which I know gets awfully

3417
02:53:32,560 --> 02:53:34,399
close to April, which is when we need to

3418
02:53:34,399 --> 02:53:36,240
have this done. So to me, if we can get

3419
02:53:36,240 --> 02:53:37,600
it done this first week in February,

3420
02:53:37,600 --> 02:53:42,870
it's probably better time when I say

3421
02:53:42,880 --> 02:53:45,200
make it work.

3422
02:53:45,200 --> 02:53:47,429
>> If if it takes a day or two,

3423
02:53:47,429 --> 02:53:47,439
» If if it takes a day or two,

3424
02:53:47,439 --> 02:53:50,950
>> third, fourth,

3425
02:53:50,960 --> 02:53:52,080
» you get on the third.

3426
02:53:52,080 --> 02:53:52,630
>> Yeah.

3427
02:53:52,630 --> 02:53:52,640
» Yeah.

3428
02:53:52,640 --> 02:53:53,190
>> Yeah.

3429
02:53:53,190 --> 02:53:53,200
» Yeah.

3430
02:53:53,200 --> 02:53:55,830
>> Yeah. Uh

3431
02:53:55,830 --> 02:53:55,840
» Yeah. Uh

3432
02:53:55,840 --> 02:53:57,830
>> well, if we want to schedule two, even

3433
02:53:57,830 --> 02:53:57,840
» well, if we want to schedule two, even

3434
02:53:57,840 --> 02:53:59,600
if we don't use the second day, then

3435
02:53:59,600 --> 02:54:00,080
we're fine.

3436
02:54:00,080 --> 02:54:02,790
>> I I think we should try to please. I

3437
02:54:02,790 --> 02:54:02,800
» I I think we should try to please. I

3438
02:54:02,800 --> 02:54:04,240
think the fourth were tied up with the

3439
02:54:04,240 --> 02:54:05,760
carbon

3440
02:54:05,760 --> 02:54:13,429
um meetings.

3441
02:54:13,439 --> 02:54:15,279
» Well, let's fire off on the third then.

3442
02:54:15,279 --> 02:54:15,590
>> Yeah,

3443
02:54:15,590 --> 02:54:15,600
» Yeah,

3444
02:54:15,600 --> 02:54:16,389
>> that's a folder.

3445
02:54:16,389 --> 02:54:16,399
» that's a folder.

3446
02:54:16,399 --> 02:54:18,790
>> Yeah,

3447
02:54:18,790 --> 02:54:18,800
» Yeah,

3448
02:54:18,800 --> 02:54:19,590
>> we'll power through.

3449
02:54:19,590 --> 02:54:19,600
» we'll power through.

3450
02:54:19,600 --> 02:54:21,590
>> Are we okay with this motion? Everybody

3451
02:54:21,590 --> 02:54:21,600
» Are we okay with this motion? Everybody

3452
02:54:21,600 --> 02:54:24,240
any cons or everybody understands the

3453
02:54:24,240 --> 02:54:29,510
motion now? Hopefully.

3454
02:54:29,520 --> 02:54:32,640
» Yes. I follow up and move that the

3455
02:54:32,640 --> 02:54:35,120
council direct administration to bring

3456
02:54:35,120 --> 02:54:38,080
back the 2026 proposed operating

3457
02:54:38,080 --> 02:54:41,200
operating budget discussion to a special

3458
02:54:41,200 --> 02:54:44,000
meeting of council to be scheduled on

3459
02:54:44,000 --> 02:54:50,870
February 3rd, 2026.

3460
02:54:50,880 --> 02:54:52,880
» Any further concerns or discussion on

3461
02:54:52,880 --> 02:54:56,000
that motion?

3462
02:54:56,000 --> 02:54:58,389
>> All in favor?

3463
02:54:58,389 --> 02:54:58,399
» All in favor?

3464
02:54:58,399 --> 02:55:04,790
Carried.

3465
02:55:04,800 --> 02:55:09,830
Okay, we got a third down.

3466
02:55:09,840 --> 02:55:14,389
» Did we confuse you?

3467
02:55:14,399 --> 02:55:16,160
» Yeah,

3468
02:55:16,160 --> 02:55:39,990
thank you.

3469
02:55:40,000 --> 02:55:43,910
Community services.

3470
02:55:43,920 --> 02:55:53,910
» There she is. Perfect timing.

3471
02:55:53,920 --> 02:55:55,680
table.

3472
02:55:55,680 --> 02:56:14,550
We don't need

3473
02:56:14,560 --> 02:56:19,040
Yeah, I think I think so. Uh 6.1

3474
02:56:19,040 --> 02:56:24,790
planning.

3475
02:56:24,800 --> 02:56:27,520
Good morning, Reeve, members of council.

3476
02:56:27,520 --> 02:56:29,840
Um I'm bringing back to you as per your

3477
02:56:29,840 --> 02:56:32,640
request uh public engagement options for

3478
02:56:32,640 --> 02:56:35,439
the land use bylaw review. As you know,

3479
02:56:35,439 --> 02:56:37,040
the land use bylaw is the nuts and

3480
02:56:37,040 --> 02:56:39,200
bolts. We're in it every day for every

3481
02:56:39,200 --> 02:56:42,000
development permit that we issue and we

3482
02:56:42,000 --> 02:56:44,160
have just done a very long public

3483
02:56:44,160 --> 02:56:46,080
engagement for the municipal development

3484
02:56:46,080 --> 02:56:48,960
plan and we in order to align those

3485
02:56:48,960 --> 02:56:50,960
documents we do need to look at a few

3486
02:56:50,960 --> 02:56:52,800
things in the land use bylaw. So we felt

3487
02:56:52,800 --> 02:56:55,359
it was an opportune time to have more of

3488
02:56:55,359 --> 02:56:58,080
a robust review. We have provided

3489
02:56:58,080 --> 02:57:00,240
several options and we did this based on

3490
02:57:00,240 --> 02:57:02,479
the previous engagement and previous

3491
02:57:02,479 --> 02:57:05,600
direction to do more robust engagement.

3492
02:57:05,600 --> 02:57:07,600
So, we've created some options, but I

3493
02:57:07,600 --> 02:57:09,279
believe at the last meeting, you had

3494
02:57:09,279 --> 02:57:12,080
talked about doing a more hybrid version

3495
02:57:12,080 --> 02:57:15,600
of that. And so, at the bottom of the

3496
02:57:15,600 --> 02:57:18,479
document, I've also included just more

3497
02:57:18,479 --> 02:57:20,160
of a checklist so we can actually go

3498
02:57:20,160 --> 02:57:22,080
through and see exactly what it is that

3499
02:57:22,080 --> 02:57:24,720
you think would be helpful to do in

3500
02:57:24,720 --> 02:57:26,960
these engagement sessions. So whether

3501
02:57:26,960 --> 02:57:28,960
it's strictly just a council working

3502
02:57:28,960 --> 02:57:31,439
group, whether we and it would be

3503
02:57:31,439 --> 02:57:33,680
several meetings to go through the land

3504
02:57:33,680 --> 02:57:36,000
use bylaw is a huge document, whether it

3505
02:57:36,000 --> 02:57:38,960
would be um including the municipal

3506
02:57:38,960 --> 02:57:41,680
planning commission members at large in

3507
02:57:41,680 --> 02:57:43,279
working groups or whether it's actually

3508
02:57:43,279 --> 02:57:45,200
creating some additional working groups

3509
02:57:45,200 --> 02:57:47,760
more specific to some like particularly

3510
02:57:47,760 --> 02:57:50,560
hamlets or agriculture that would

3511
02:57:50,560 --> 02:57:52,640
highlight some of those areas in the

3512
02:57:52,640 --> 02:57:55,760
land use bylaw. We can certainly do um

3513
02:57:55,760 --> 02:57:58,399
whatever it is that you are looking at.

3514
02:57:58,399 --> 02:58:00,880
Uh we have open houses that we have

3515
02:58:00,880 --> 02:58:03,680
talked about. Uh we do have legally

3516
02:58:03,680 --> 02:58:06,160
required to do public hearings for this

3517
02:58:06,160 --> 02:58:08,560
uh land use bylaw as well as create

3518
02:58:08,560 --> 02:58:10,319
opportunities for all of our urban and

3519
02:58:10,319 --> 02:58:12,640
rural neighbors to have an opportunity

3520
02:58:12,640 --> 02:58:15,279
to provide comment. So some of that is

3521
02:58:15,279 --> 02:58:19,120
uh you will see um checkboxes in that

3522
02:58:19,120 --> 02:58:22,080
last one that there you go. Um so what

3523
02:58:22,080 --> 02:58:25,359
you see is required. Uh we do have to

3524
02:58:25,359 --> 02:58:28,160
consult with affected land owners. We

3525
02:58:28,160 --> 02:58:29,680
have to provide opportunity to submit

3526
02:58:29,680 --> 02:58:31,040
comments and we do have to have that

3527
02:58:31,040 --> 02:58:34,560
public hearing. And then we are, as we

3528
02:58:34,560 --> 02:58:36,640
always do whenever we do amendments to

3529
02:58:36,640 --> 02:58:38,319
land use or when we're starting to see

3530
02:58:38,319 --> 02:58:40,399
trends in the planning department, we

3531
02:58:40,399 --> 02:58:42,479
create a whole list of notes of things

3532
02:58:42,479 --> 02:58:44,399
that we should look at this the next

3533
02:58:44,399 --> 02:58:46,640
time we talk about land use by or we

3534
02:58:46,640 --> 02:58:48,319
open the land use bylaw or there's

3535
02:58:48,319 --> 02:58:50,640
things that may be require more clarity

3536
02:58:50,640 --> 02:58:53,120
or there's changes to legislation. Those

3537
02:58:53,120 --> 02:58:55,439
are the things and we we collect a whole

3538
02:58:55,439 --> 02:58:57,680
bunch. And so those are part of what

3539
02:58:57,680 --> 02:59:00,399
we're talking about when we say proposed

3540
02:59:00,399 --> 02:59:02,640
changes that are coming from the admin

3541
02:59:02,640 --> 02:59:04,640
perspective. It's still up to council

3542
02:59:04,640 --> 02:59:06,319
whether or not you want to go with those

3543
02:59:06,319 --> 02:59:07,840
changes, but we just want to highlight

3544
02:59:07,840 --> 02:59:10,720
things that we have found as we work

3545
02:59:10,720 --> 02:59:13,359
with the document itself. Hamlet zoning

3546
02:59:13,359 --> 02:59:15,040
is one of those things that we have

3547
02:59:15,040 --> 02:59:17,040
looked at because we have a lot of

3548
02:59:17,040 --> 02:59:20,160
hamlet hamlets that are zoned Hamlet

3549
02:59:20,160 --> 02:59:22,240
general in particular which include

3550
02:59:22,240 --> 02:59:24,240
every use that's available in the

3551
02:59:24,240 --> 02:59:26,720
hamlet. So, we were wanting to align uh

3552
02:59:26,720 --> 02:59:28,720
the zoning and hamlets to reflect more

3553
02:59:28,720 --> 02:59:32,080
what is actually on the property.

3554
02:59:32,080 --> 02:59:34,000
And then the council working group is

3555
02:59:34,000 --> 02:59:36,240
obviously something that you would have

3556
02:59:36,240 --> 02:59:38,399
to do because you're you're the ones

3557
02:59:38,399 --> 02:59:40,720
that approved the document yourself. So,

3558
02:59:40,720 --> 02:59:42,560
the other pieces whether you want to

3559
02:59:42,560 --> 02:59:44,319
include members at large, whether you

3560
02:59:44,319 --> 02:59:45,760
want to create some additional working

3561
02:59:45,760 --> 02:59:49,359
groups, uh open houses to go through

3562
02:59:49,359 --> 02:59:52,560
some of these changes, again that is up

3563
02:59:52,560 --> 02:59:54,960
to you. And then we would go back and

3564
02:59:54,960 --> 02:59:57,359
just let you know what that budget might

3565
02:59:57,359 --> 02:59:59,760
look like. We look at what hall rental

3566
02:59:59,760 --> 03:00:01,760
and whether or not we have snacks or

3567
03:00:01,760 --> 03:00:04,080
those types of things, coffee provided,

3568
03:00:04,080 --> 03:00:05,279
those things.

3569
03:00:05,279 --> 03:00:05,910
>> Mhm.

3570
03:00:05,910 --> 03:00:05,920
» Mhm.

3571
03:00:05,920 --> 03:00:07,990
>> Just a quick question. Does this have to

3572
03:00:07,990 --> 03:00:08,000
» Just a quick question. Does this have to

3573
03:00:08,000 --> 03:00:10,319
be looked at this year?

3574
03:00:10,319 --> 03:00:12,630
>> It does not. There are some things that

3575
03:00:12,630 --> 03:00:12,640
» It does not. There are some things that

3576
03:00:12,640 --> 03:00:14,479
it's we we are going to have to be

3577
03:00:14,479 --> 03:00:16,720
mindful, but we can postpone it a year

3578
03:00:16,720 --> 03:00:17,359
as well.

3579
03:00:17,359 --> 03:00:18,870
>> One of the question other questions I

3580
03:00:18,870 --> 03:00:18,880
» One of the question other questions I

3581
03:00:18,880 --> 03:00:23,040
have is if we if we do like just put a

3582
03:00:23,040 --> 03:00:24,560
We got a lot on our plate to get done

3583
03:00:24,560 --> 03:00:26,479
right away. If we do put it down the

3584
03:00:26,479 --> 03:00:28,880
road a bit, can we as council and you go

3585
03:00:28,880 --> 03:00:30,800
through it first before we go out and do

3586
03:00:30,800 --> 03:00:31,600
anything or

3587
03:00:31,600 --> 03:00:32,070
>> Absolutely.

3588
03:00:32,070 --> 03:00:32,080
» Absolutely.

3589
03:00:32,080 --> 03:00:33,670
>> I think that would be give us more

3590
03:00:33,670 --> 03:00:33,680
» I think that would be give us more

3591
03:00:33,680 --> 03:00:36,080
information on which direction we should

3592
03:00:36,080 --> 03:00:38,560
take andor if we're going to take any.

3593
03:00:38,560 --> 03:00:38,950
>> Yep.

3594
03:00:38,950 --> 03:00:38,960
» Yep.

3595
03:00:38,960 --> 03:00:42,070
>> Right. Um that's that's my thought. We

3596
03:00:42,070 --> 03:00:42,080
» Right. Um that's that's my thought. We

3597
03:00:42,080 --> 03:00:44,000
we just got so much going on here and I

3598
03:00:44,000 --> 03:00:45,920
don't really want to to you know we got

3599
03:00:45,920 --> 03:00:47,520
three options there. That's correct. But

3600
03:00:47,520 --> 03:00:50,000
I mean until we see what it is or or

3601
03:00:50,000 --> 03:00:52,160
what changes that we need that would

3602
03:00:52,160 --> 03:00:54,960
dictate how I would vote on what's which

3603
03:00:54,960 --> 03:00:56,399
way we should be going

3604
03:00:56,399 --> 03:00:58,150
>> and absolutely that's

3605
03:00:58,150 --> 03:00:58,160
» and absolutely that's

3606
03:00:58,160 --> 03:00:59,830
>> there a concern with that or uh

3607
03:00:59,830 --> 03:00:59,840
» there a concern with that or uh

3608
03:00:59,840 --> 03:01:01,200
councelor Anderson

3609
03:01:01,200 --> 03:01:05,269
>> I agree we just went through last year I

3610
03:01:05,269 --> 03:01:05,279
» I agree we just went through last year I

3611
03:01:05,279 --> 03:01:06,720
sat through all the planning

3612
03:01:06,720 --> 03:01:09,120
commission's meetings

3613
03:01:09,120 --> 03:01:11,840
if that doesn't last any longer than

3614
03:01:11,840 --> 03:01:14,080
half a year I I don't know what the

3615
03:01:14,080 --> 03:01:17,830
success rate Councelor

3616
03:01:17,840 --> 03:01:20,000
Olsson.

3617
03:01:20,000 --> 03:01:24,469
>> Yeah. No, I I agree to a certain extent,

3618
03:01:24,469 --> 03:01:24,479
» Yeah. No, I I agree to a certain extent,

3619
03:01:24,479 --> 03:01:27,680
but I also I can see a trend happening

3620
03:01:27,680 --> 03:01:30,960
with us as we keep wanting more time and

3621
03:01:30,960 --> 03:01:33,279
pushing things further along. And at

3622
03:01:33,279 --> 03:01:34,479
some point, we're just going to get

3623
03:01:34,479 --> 03:01:37,279
jammed up here, too. So, we're going to

3624
03:01:37,279 --> 03:01:39,760
have to pick and choose. Yes. But, uh,

3625
03:01:39,760 --> 03:01:42,000
we are going to have to make uh

3626
03:01:42,000 --> 03:01:45,359
decisions as we go here. Um but but I

3627
03:01:45,359 --> 03:01:48,000
agree uh you know with most of what's

3628
03:01:48,000 --> 03:01:52,309
being said here.

3629
03:01:52,319 --> 03:01:54,399
» So and just just to be very clear like

3630
03:01:54,399 --> 03:01:56,000
the process that we did last term was

3631
03:01:56,000 --> 03:01:57,840
the municipal development plan, right?

3632
03:01:57,840 --> 03:02:00,319
So um this this one that we're currently

3633
03:02:00,319 --> 03:02:02,000
looking at would be the the land use

3634
03:02:02,000 --> 03:02:04,399
bylaw. So I mean two separate entities

3635
03:02:04,399 --> 03:02:08,000
but two that really work together. Um

3636
03:02:08,000 --> 03:02:10,880
last term we did um pick out like the

3637
03:02:10,880 --> 03:02:12,479
renewable piece because we were seeing

3638
03:02:12,479 --> 03:02:14,640
so many changes in that industry. So we

3639
03:02:14,640 --> 03:02:16,880
do have the ability to to take out

3640
03:02:16,880 --> 03:02:18,640
pieces and not do the whole thing. But I

3641
03:02:18,640 --> 03:02:20,479
think it was kind of the conversation

3642
03:02:20,479 --> 03:02:22,960
last term was after the MDP was done

3643
03:02:22,960 --> 03:02:24,800
then we really would like a full

3644
03:02:24,800 --> 03:02:26,960
comprehensive review of the land use. So

3645
03:02:26,960 --> 03:02:30,000
I'm 100% in agreement with um maybe

3646
03:02:30,000 --> 03:02:32,399
holding off for a little bit. We are

3647
03:02:32,399 --> 03:02:34,240
doing like we just said strat planning

3648
03:02:34,240 --> 03:02:36,080
the beginning of February. I wouldn't

3649
03:02:36,080 --> 03:02:38,080
want to put it off too long because I

3650
03:02:38,080 --> 03:02:39,520
think we're seeing some changes in

3651
03:02:39,520 --> 03:02:42,479
different industries and and um I think

3652
03:02:42,479 --> 03:02:44,640
we want to address some of those but um

3653
03:02:44,640 --> 03:02:46,319
like you said we do have a lot going on

3654
03:02:46,319 --> 03:02:49,840
but like whether we revisit it closer to

3655
03:02:49,840 --> 03:02:51,680
the summer or I mean I hate to put it

3656
03:02:51,680 --> 03:02:53,279
off to the fall fall such a busy time

3657
03:02:53,279 --> 03:02:55,279
but but yeah I there is a lot going on

3658
03:02:55,279 --> 03:02:56,720
right now especially with strap planning

3659
03:02:56,720 --> 03:02:58,319
but but for me personally I wouldn't

3660
03:02:58,319 --> 03:03:01,200
want to park this for too long. Uh that

3661
03:03:01,200 --> 03:03:03,600
was I would that my intent wasn't to

3662
03:03:03,600 --> 03:03:05,760
push it down the road for years, you

3663
03:03:05,760 --> 03:03:09,120
know. Uh councelor Woodstock,

3664
03:03:09,120 --> 03:03:12,309
>> I guess it excuse me. I guess it depends

3665
03:03:12,309 --> 03:03:12,319
» I guess it excuse me. I guess it depends

3666
03:03:12,319 --> 03:03:14,800
on which scenario we use because it

3667
03:03:14,800 --> 03:03:18,319
could last a year to get through the or

3668
03:03:18,319 --> 03:03:21,439
it could be up to two years. So if we

3669
03:03:21,439 --> 03:03:23,040
push it too far down the road, I don't

3670
03:03:23,040 --> 03:03:24,240
know. Are we going to be outside of

3671
03:03:24,240 --> 03:03:26,800
legislation if we leave it too long

3672
03:03:26,800 --> 03:03:29,349
>> through the chair? I the only thing I

3673
03:03:29,349 --> 03:03:29,359
» through the chair? I the only thing I

3674
03:03:29,359 --> 03:03:31,120
think is depending on the options that

3675
03:03:31,120 --> 03:03:32,399
you choose and how much public

3676
03:03:32,399 --> 03:03:34,479
engagement we do, it takes a huge amount

3677
03:03:34,479 --> 03:03:36,720
of time from our department. It was all

3678
03:03:36,720 --> 03:03:39,200
hands- on deck for two years and

3679
03:03:39,200 --> 03:03:41,120
everybody had jobs and had to do it and

3680
03:03:41,120 --> 03:03:42,880
it was a huge amount of information that

3681
03:03:42,880 --> 03:03:44,319
we were providing in those working

3682
03:03:44,319 --> 03:03:47,200
groups. So again, having a little bit of

3683
03:03:47,200 --> 03:03:49,680
an idea of where you want to land as far

3684
03:03:49,680 --> 03:03:52,399
as that would be helpful. Pushing it off

3685
03:03:52,399 --> 03:03:54,479
is fine. That just gives us more time to

3686
03:03:54,479 --> 03:03:56,399
prepare like I said the information

3687
03:03:56,399 --> 03:03:58,880
packages and more specific to whatever

3688
03:03:58,880 --> 03:04:01,359
that working group might look like. Um

3689
03:04:01,359 --> 03:04:03,439
and then if we have to book halls or do

3690
03:04:03,439 --> 03:04:05,840
those types of things, we do need that

3691
03:04:05,840 --> 03:04:07,840
information

3692
03:04:07,840 --> 03:04:10,160
in advance. So if we meet with you and

3693
03:04:10,160 --> 03:04:12,240
you guys decide you want to start the

3694
03:04:12,240 --> 03:04:15,200
robust engagement process,

3695
03:04:15,200 --> 03:04:17,359
our expectation is that it doesn't start

3696
03:04:17,359 --> 03:04:20,240
the next month. um scheduling bodies was

3697
03:04:20,240 --> 03:04:23,120
a huge problem um because we had so many

3698
03:04:23,120 --> 03:04:25,439
cooks and players that we were trying to

3699
03:04:25,439 --> 03:04:28,880
align and so that that is what created

3700
03:04:28,880 --> 03:04:32,720
such a long time frame in some regard

3701
03:04:32,720 --> 03:04:35,600
but um to do it well we do need to be

3702
03:04:35,600 --> 03:04:37,680
prepared and that's one thing that I

3703
03:04:37,680 --> 03:04:40,560
guess we would just want to have some

3704
03:04:40,560 --> 03:04:43,279
idea and and some time to pull that

3705
03:04:43,279 --> 03:04:46,240
together as a planning department. So,

3706
03:04:46,240 --> 03:04:48,640
um, if we push it off, I'm fine with

3707
03:04:48,640 --> 03:04:52,160
that for now. Um, but I guess give me an

3708
03:04:52,160 --> 03:04:53,840
indication of what you're thinking to

3709
03:04:53,840 --> 03:04:56,880
come back. We can come back in the fall

3710
03:04:56,880 --> 03:05:01,040
or if you're thinking next year, just

3711
03:05:01,040 --> 03:05:02,870
>> I I'm not sure that we're thinking that

3712
03:05:02,870 --> 03:05:02,880
» I I'm not sure that we're thinking that

3713
03:05:02,880 --> 03:05:03,840
far down the road.

3714
03:05:03,840 --> 03:05:04,150
>> Okay.

3715
03:05:04,150 --> 03:05:04,160
» Okay.

3716
03:05:04,160 --> 03:05:05,990
>> Like, it doesn't have to go that far.

3717
03:05:05,990 --> 03:05:06,000
» Like, it doesn't have to go that far.

3718
03:05:06,000 --> 03:05:08,150
>> Okay.

3719
03:05:08,150 --> 03:05:08,160
» Okay.

3720
03:05:08,160 --> 03:05:10,070
>> Yeah, you could give give us a couple or

3721
03:05:10,070 --> 03:05:10,080
» Yeah, you could give give us a couple or

3722
03:05:10,080 --> 03:05:13,520
a month or so, whatever.

3723
03:05:13,520 --> 03:05:16,319
thoughts,

3724
03:05:16,319 --> 03:05:17,190
>> council Cunningham.

3725
03:05:17,190 --> 03:05:17,200
» council Cunningham.

3726
03:05:17,200 --> 03:05:19,190
>> Yeah, just having been through the MDP

3727
03:05:19,190 --> 03:05:19,200
» Yeah, just having been through the MDP

3728
03:05:19,200 --> 03:05:20,720
and being a part of it, I mean, it was a

3729
03:05:20,720 --> 03:05:22,080
great experience. Like the working

3730
03:05:22,080 --> 03:05:23,840
groups were awesome. You know, we had

3731
03:05:23,840 --> 03:05:25,200
them split into different, you know,

3732
03:05:25,200 --> 03:05:27,279
agriculture, economic development, and

3733
03:05:27,279 --> 03:05:28,960
they were wonderful meetings and a great

3734
03:05:28,960 --> 03:05:30,319
opportunity to engage with our rate

3735
03:05:30,319 --> 03:05:33,760
pairs, but Miss Hazelton is bang on. Um,

3736
03:05:33,760 --> 03:05:35,040
I can't make this day because I have

3737
03:05:35,040 --> 03:05:36,960
this and it it it was a scheduling

3738
03:05:36,960 --> 03:05:39,279
nightmare really. I personally would

3739
03:05:39,279 --> 03:05:42,479
love to see um like the open houses. um

3740
03:05:42,479 --> 03:05:44,000
we don't have to have meals. I think

3741
03:05:44,000 --> 03:05:45,920
we're all kind of really looking at our

3742
03:05:45,920 --> 03:05:47,200
fiscal management here. So, I don't

3743
03:05:47,200 --> 03:05:48,560
think we maybe have to do it quite as

3744
03:05:48,560 --> 03:05:50,160
robust. It was a great experience, but

3745
03:05:50,160 --> 03:05:52,160
maybe this time we we do open house,

3746
03:05:52,160 --> 03:05:54,319
coffee, muffins, whatever. Um we want

3747
03:05:54,319 --> 03:05:56,560
that feedback from the public, have the

3748
03:05:56,560 --> 03:05:58,080
different avenues that they can bring

3749
03:05:58,080 --> 03:06:00,240
their comments to us, but I mean to me,

3750
03:06:00,240 --> 03:06:01,680
I guess maybe I'm leaning a little bit

3751
03:06:01,680 --> 03:06:04,640
towards can't remember option maybe is

3752
03:06:04,640 --> 03:06:08,640
it C um maybe not have those um working

3753
03:06:08,640 --> 03:06:09,920
groups with the public. Again, not

3754
03:06:09,920 --> 03:06:11,120
because I don't want to hear from them,

3755
03:06:11,120 --> 03:06:13,680
just because like you said, it did it

3756
03:06:13,680 --> 03:06:15,359
did add another element to it. But

3757
03:06:15,359 --> 03:06:16,560
that's kind of where I'm going with

3758
03:06:16,560 --> 03:06:18,720
that. But yeah, maybe looking in a

3759
03:06:18,720 --> 03:06:20,000
couple months down the road after we've

3760
03:06:20,000 --> 03:06:21,760
got our strap planning done.

3761
03:06:21,760 --> 03:06:22,790
>> Okay.

3762
03:06:22,790 --> 03:06:22,800
» Okay.

3763
03:06:22,800 --> 03:06:24,389
>> And I think we can give you the, you

3764
03:06:24,389 --> 03:06:24,399
» And I think we can give you the, you

3765
03:06:24,399 --> 03:06:25,840
know, you kind of got a general

3766
03:06:25,840 --> 03:06:27,920
consensus here. As far as I'm concerned,

3767
03:06:27,920 --> 03:06:30,000
we're not feeding people

3768
03:06:30,000 --> 03:06:31,110
>> the uh Yeah.

3769
03:06:31,110 --> 03:06:31,120
» the uh Yeah.

3770
03:06:31,120 --> 03:06:32,630
>> cookies. Can they cookies?

3771
03:06:32,630 --> 03:06:32,640
» cookies. Can they cookies?

3772
03:06:32,640 --> 03:06:34,870
>> No. And uh yeah, you want to get fed,

3773
03:06:34,870 --> 03:06:34,880
» No. And uh yeah, you want to get fed,

3774
03:06:34,880 --> 03:06:36,720
come out to my place later. We'll we'll

3775
03:06:36,720 --> 03:06:38,800
cook we'll cook something there.

3776
03:06:38,800 --> 03:06:42,160
But yeah, not not you guys.

3777
03:06:42,160 --> 03:06:44,550
>> Let's let's let's uh give Do you want to

3778
03:06:44,550 --> 03:06:44,560
» Let's let's let's uh give Do you want to

3779
03:06:44,560 --> 03:06:45,840
date

3780
03:06:45,840 --> 03:06:46,230
>> question,

3781
03:06:46,230 --> 03:06:46,240
» question,

3782
03:06:46,240 --> 03:06:47,830
>> Council Olsson?

3783
03:06:47,830 --> 03:06:47,840
» Council Olsson?

3784
03:06:47,840 --> 03:06:50,150
>> Yeah, I would I would like to see it

3785
03:06:50,150 --> 03:06:50,160
» Yeah, I would I would like to see it

3786
03:06:50,160 --> 03:06:52,319
sooner than later, too. And and and

3787
03:06:52,319 --> 03:06:54,800
depending on how long it takes for your

3788
03:06:54,800 --> 03:06:57,200
group, but if we could utilize the

3789
03:06:57,200 --> 03:06:59,840
summer for some of these, you know,

3790
03:06:59,840 --> 03:07:03,200
events. Um

3791
03:07:03,200 --> 03:07:05,600
Yeah. No, it's uh Yeah. Yeah, and I'm

3792
03:07:05,600 --> 03:07:07,279
looking forward to that steak steak

3793
03:07:07,279 --> 03:07:10,950
dinner at Looney.

3794
03:07:10,960 --> 03:07:13,040
» Okay. So, basic Oh, sorry.

3795
03:07:13,040 --> 03:07:14,790
>> I'm just going to clarify then. So, if

3796
03:07:14,790 --> 03:07:14,800
» I'm just going to clarify then. So, if

3797
03:07:14,800 --> 03:07:16,720
we go ahead and plan maybe the initial

3798
03:07:16,720 --> 03:07:19,520
working group with council in July, aim

3799
03:07:19,520 --> 03:07:20,800
for around

3800
03:07:20,800 --> 03:07:22,870
>> Do you think that's too late?

3801
03:07:22,870 --> 03:07:22,880
» Do you think that's too late?

3802
03:07:22,880 --> 03:07:26,070
>> I I think because of the the how long

3803
03:07:26,070 --> 03:07:26,080
» I I think because of the the how long

3804
03:07:26,080 --> 03:07:28,399
these projects take, a month or two on

3805
03:07:28,399 --> 03:07:30,080
the front end. It's not going to matter.

3806
03:07:30,080 --> 03:07:31,030
>> It's not going to matter.

3807
03:07:31,030 --> 03:07:31,040
» It's not going to matter.

3808
03:07:31,040 --> 03:07:31,510
>> Okay.

3809
03:07:31,510 --> 03:07:31,520
» Okay.

3810
03:07:31,520 --> 03:07:32,710
>> You're not going to have it done by the

3811
03:07:32,710 --> 03:07:32,720
» You're not going to have it done by the

3812
03:07:32,720 --> 03:07:33,520
end of the year.

3813
03:07:33,520 --> 03:07:35,510
>> No. But what my question is we didn't

3814
03:07:35,510 --> 03:07:35,520
» No. But what my question is we didn't

3815
03:07:35,520 --> 03:07:37,040
want I was thinking a couple months but

3816
03:07:37,040 --> 03:07:38,800
I mean if if you guys are good with July

3817
03:07:38,800 --> 03:07:40,640
that works for us or sooner.

3818
03:07:40,640 --> 03:07:42,630
>> I will I'll aim for that and we'll we'll

3819
03:07:42,630 --> 03:07:42,640
» I will I'll aim for that and we'll we'll

3820
03:07:42,640 --> 03:07:44,479
do a working group separate out of

3821
03:07:44,479 --> 03:07:46,800
council that we just go through this is

3822
03:07:46,800 --> 03:07:48,160
what we're looking at. These are some of

3823
03:07:48,160 --> 03:07:51,200
the changes that we see would be helpful

3824
03:07:51,200 --> 03:07:53,520
and lay it out that way. So we'll aim

3825
03:07:53,520 --> 03:07:58,240
for that July and um yeah that's great.

3826
03:07:58,240 --> 03:08:00,150
>> I'm okay I'm okay with that if council's

3827
03:08:00,150 --> 03:08:00,160
» I'm okay I'm okay with that if council's

3828
03:08:00,160 --> 03:08:02,399
okay with that. Do we need a motion?

3829
03:08:02,399 --> 03:08:04,150
>> Yeah.

3830
03:08:04,150 --> 03:08:04,160
» Yeah.

3831
03:08:04,160 --> 03:08:06,080
Council Con.

3832
03:08:06,080 --> 03:08:07,670
>> So I will move that council direct

3833
03:08:07,670 --> 03:08:07,680
» So I will move that council direct

3834
03:08:07,680 --> 03:08:09,279
administration to plan a working group

3835
03:08:09,279 --> 03:08:14,870
with council in July 2026.

3836
03:08:14,880 --> 03:08:16,560
» Any concerns or discussion on the

3837
03:08:16,560 --> 03:08:18,800
motion?

3838
03:08:18,800 --> 03:08:22,469
>> All in favor?

3839
03:08:22,479 --> 03:08:23,359
» Perfect.

3840
03:08:23,359 --> 03:08:37,190
>> Thanks Barb.

3841
03:08:37,200 --> 03:08:39,840
7.1. Uh,

3842
03:08:39,840 --> 03:08:57,510
are we on 7.1? Yeah. County vehicle use.

3843
03:08:57,520 --> 03:08:59,359
» Yeah. Go ahead.

3844
03:08:59,359 --> 03:09:00,950
>> Thank you, Reven Council. At the

3845
03:09:00,950 --> 03:09:00,960
» Thank you, Reven Council. At the

3846
03:09:00,960 --> 03:09:02,960
December 9th meeting, council tabled the

3847
03:09:02,960 --> 03:09:04,960
proposed vehicle use policy and asked

3848
03:09:04,960 --> 03:09:06,720
administration to return with further

3849
03:09:06,720 --> 03:09:08,880
operational analysis and research

3850
03:09:08,880 --> 03:09:10,560
research specifically related to the

3851
03:09:10,560 --> 03:09:12,080
take-home vehicles and on call

3852
03:09:12,080 --> 03:09:14,399
operations.

3853
03:09:14,399 --> 03:09:16,960
Today's response

3854
03:09:16,960 --> 03:09:20,240
reports today's report responds directly

3855
03:09:20,240 --> 03:09:21,680
to that request and we're going to talk

3856
03:09:21,680 --> 03:09:24,319
about um council oversight on vehicles

3857
03:09:24,319 --> 03:09:26,000
operational analysis on how service

3858
03:09:26,000 --> 03:09:27,439
times and delivery is affected if

3859
03:09:27,439 --> 03:09:30,000
vehicles must be returned to the shop.

3860
03:09:30,000 --> 03:09:32,240
So based what changed in the policy we

3861
03:09:32,240 --> 03:09:33,680
did make some changes since the last

3862
03:09:33,680 --> 03:09:35,680
time based on the feedback from council

3863
03:09:35,680 --> 03:09:37,279
administration made two significant

3864
03:09:37,279 --> 03:09:40,000
governance changes to the policy. First,

3865
03:09:40,000 --> 03:09:42,000
all take-home vehicle arrangements now

3866
03:09:42,000 --> 03:09:43,520
require council approval rather than

3867
03:09:43,520 --> 03:09:45,520
administrative approval. Second, the

3868
03:09:45,520 --> 03:09:47,200
policy now clearly states home to work

3869
03:09:47,200 --> 03:09:48,640
travel is not permitted unless it's

3870
03:09:48,640 --> 03:09:50,800
directly tied to operational on call

3871
03:09:50,800 --> 03:09:53,040
response requirements.

3872
03:09:53,040 --> 03:09:54,960
This means that council retains the full

3873
03:09:54,960 --> 03:09:57,040
authority over who's permitted to take

3874
03:09:57,040 --> 03:09:58,880
home vehicles and that the privilege

3875
03:09:58,880 --> 03:10:01,359
must be justified by service needs, not

3876
03:10:01,359 --> 03:10:04,630
convenience.

3877
03:10:04,640 --> 03:10:06,479
So before we get into the analysis, it's

3878
03:10:06,479 --> 03:10:07,760
important to understand who currently

3879
03:10:07,760 --> 03:10:10,319
has take-home vehicles and why take-home

3880
03:10:10,319 --> 03:10:11,760
vehicles are limited to specific

3881
03:10:11,760 --> 03:10:13,200
operational roles where immediate

3882
03:10:13,200 --> 03:10:15,120
deployment, feed based, field-based

3883
03:10:15,120 --> 03:10:17,120
supervision, or on call response is

3884
03:10:17,120 --> 03:10:19,680
required. For our utilities operation,

3885
03:10:19,680 --> 03:10:21,680
our utilities infrastructure is spread

3886
03:10:21,680 --> 03:10:23,760
across the county. Operators are

3887
03:10:23,760 --> 03:10:25,279
assigned to service areas near near

3888
03:10:25,279 --> 03:10:26,960
their homes to reduce travel times,

3889
03:10:26,960 --> 03:10:29,359
improve response, and overall and

3890
03:10:29,359 --> 03:10:31,040
control overtime. And we've included

3891
03:10:31,040 --> 03:10:33,840
some appendices that show the breakdown

3892
03:10:33,840 --> 03:10:35,600
of where the employees are driving to

3893
03:10:35,600 --> 03:10:38,080
where they're working. Our operators do

3894
03:10:38,080 --> 03:10:39,520
not start the day at the shop. They

3895
03:10:39,520 --> 03:10:40,960
typically begin and end their shifts at

3896
03:10:40,960 --> 03:10:43,040
the pump houses, lift stations, or field

3897
03:10:43,040 --> 03:10:45,040
locations.

3898
03:10:45,040 --> 03:10:46,319
Currently, take-home vehicles are

3899
03:10:46,319 --> 03:10:48,319
assigned to utility operators, the

3900
03:10:48,319 --> 03:10:50,080
utility supervisor, and the utility

3901
03:10:50,080 --> 03:10:52,399
services manager. These vehicles are

3902
03:10:52,399 --> 03:10:54,000
equipped with with tools, testing

3903
03:10:54,000 --> 03:10:56,560
equipment, spare parts, PPE, and

3904
03:10:56,560 --> 03:10:59,040
compliance materials. For practical

3905
03:10:59,040 --> 03:11:00,800
purposes, they function as mobile work

3906
03:11:00,800 --> 03:11:03,279
units and is common to what is in other

3907
03:11:03,279 --> 03:11:06,160
administration or other uh county

3908
03:11:06,160 --> 03:11:08,240
operations.

3909
03:11:08,240 --> 03:11:10,560
Our transportation operators, they're

3910
03:11:10,560 --> 03:11:11,920
are highly weather dependent and

3911
03:11:11,920 --> 03:11:14,560
timesensitive. Our supervisors start

3912
03:11:14,560 --> 03:11:16,479
right when they leave and get onto

3913
03:11:16,479 --> 03:11:18,640
county roads to inspect the roads. They

3914
03:11:18,640 --> 03:11:20,880
start hours before the operators start

3915
03:11:20,880 --> 03:11:22,720
so that they have the ability to send

3916
03:11:22,720 --> 03:11:25,359
their operators to the right locations.

3917
03:11:25,359 --> 03:11:29,200
Um, they I went down too fast on my

3918
03:11:29,200 --> 03:11:31,040
speaking notes. The supervisors need to

3919
03:11:31,040 --> 03:11:33,200
assess the road conditions and they

3920
03:11:33,200 --> 03:11:34,960
deploy the graders and the plow crews

3921
03:11:34,960 --> 03:11:36,240
based on that and they have very good

3922
03:11:36,240 --> 03:11:38,560
log books to define that. They adjust

3923
03:11:38,560 --> 03:11:40,640
their routes and they change conditions

3924
03:11:40,640 --> 03:11:43,520
and they coordinate emergency response.

3925
03:11:43,520 --> 03:11:44,960
Currently, take-home vehicles are

3926
03:11:44,960 --> 03:11:46,319
assigned to the transportation

3927
03:11:46,319 --> 03:11:48,960
superintendent and three transportation

3928
03:11:48,960 --> 03:11:51,840
supervisors. As I indicated, this allows

3929
03:11:51,840 --> 03:11:53,439
the supervisors to begin making

3930
03:11:53,439 --> 03:11:55,760
decisions as soon as they hit the county

3931
03:11:55,760 --> 03:11:58,560
roads as opposed to getting in and then

3932
03:11:58,560 --> 03:12:01,920
deploying after that. our operational

3933
03:12:01,920 --> 03:12:04,560
analysis for utility response times.

3934
03:12:04,560 --> 03:12:08,000
When we analyzed the data, thanks to our

3935
03:12:08,000 --> 03:12:10,399
great maps, the direct travel from the

3936
03:12:10,399 --> 03:12:12,479
operator's residence to the site versus

3937
03:12:12,479 --> 03:12:15,600
traveling to the shop first, our maps

3938
03:12:15,600 --> 03:12:17,920
indicate that we would be losing appro

3939
03:12:17,920 --> 03:12:20,080
approximately 15 to 40 minutes per call

3940
03:12:20,080 --> 03:12:23,120
per employee dependent on the location.

3941
03:12:23,120 --> 03:12:25,279
So in utilities operations that

3942
03:12:25,279 --> 03:12:27,120
additional time matters because it

3943
03:12:27,120 --> 03:12:29,120
affects the chlorine system failures,

3944
03:12:29,120 --> 03:12:31,279
pressure loss events, communication

3945
03:12:31,279 --> 03:12:33,760
outages and environmental compliance. I

3946
03:12:33,760 --> 03:12:35,840
commonly get texts or teams from

3947
03:12:35,840 --> 03:12:38,560
operators after hours. We are

3948
03:12:38,560 --> 03:12:40,479
continually we have problems in water

3949
03:12:40,479 --> 03:12:42,319
systems and they need to be able to

3950
03:12:42,319 --> 03:12:44,800
deploy immediately.

3951
03:12:44,800 --> 03:12:46,560
So, of course, our delayed response time

3952
03:12:46,560 --> 03:12:48,640
can increase repair scope and increase

3953
03:12:48,640 --> 03:12:50,960
our regulatory risk and extend service

3954
03:12:50,960 --> 03:12:54,950
interruptions for our residents.

3955
03:12:54,960 --> 03:12:56,960
Take a breath. Workday efficiencies and

3956
03:12:56,960 --> 03:12:59,439
overtime impacts. Our utility operators

3957
03:12:59,439 --> 03:13:00,960
routinely, like I indicated, start and

3958
03:13:00,960 --> 03:13:02,720
end their shifts in the field. They are

3959
03:13:02,720 --> 03:13:04,160
only in the office on Monday mornings

3960
03:13:04,160 --> 03:13:05,600
when they do their water tests and they

3961
03:13:05,600 --> 03:13:07,200
submit to the Alberta environment. Other

3962
03:13:07,200 --> 03:13:09,200
than that, they are in the field 100% of

3963
03:13:09,200 --> 03:13:11,520
the time. They carry all required tools

3964
03:13:11,520 --> 03:13:13,200
and testing equipment in their trucks

3965
03:13:13,200 --> 03:13:15,279
and they respond to service calls near

3966
03:13:15,279 --> 03:13:18,479
their residents late in the day.

3967
03:13:18,479 --> 03:13:20,240
Requiring mandatory return to the shop

3968
03:13:20,240 --> 03:13:22,000
would reduce productive field hours,

3969
03:13:22,000 --> 03:13:23,520
increase paid travel time at the end of

3970
03:13:23,520 --> 03:13:25,680
shifts, and increase overtime exposure

3971
03:13:25,680 --> 03:13:27,600
when service calls occur late in the

3972
03:13:27,600 --> 03:13:29,359
day.

3973
03:13:29,359 --> 03:13:31,600
Through our analysis, we we estimate

3974
03:13:31,600 --> 03:13:33,359
that productiv productivity could

3975
03:13:33,359 --> 03:13:35,760
decrease by approximately one hour per

3976
03:13:35,760 --> 03:13:37,439
operator per day depending on the

3977
03:13:37,439 --> 03:13:39,600
service, which over time results in a

3978
03:13:39,600 --> 03:13:42,399
lot of lost time. So, addressing

3979
03:13:42,399 --> 03:13:44,479
accountability and public perception.

3980
03:13:44,479 --> 03:13:46,000
Well, we recognize that council's

3981
03:13:46,000 --> 03:13:47,600
concerns are not only operational, but

3982
03:13:47,600 --> 03:13:49,760
they're about public trust, safety, and

3983
03:13:49,760 --> 03:13:52,640
accountability. The updated policy

3984
03:13:52,640 --> 03:13:55,120
addresses these concerns

3985
03:13:55,120 --> 03:13:57,920
by explicitly pro prohibiting speeding

3986
03:13:57,920 --> 03:14:00,479
and unsafe driving, formally authorizing

3987
03:14:00,479 --> 03:14:03,600
GPS and tele telematics monitoring,

3988
03:14:03,600 --> 03:14:05,920
allowing GPS data to support coaching

3989
03:14:05,920 --> 03:14:07,840
investigations and discipline where

3990
03:14:07,840 --> 03:14:10,479
necessary, and requiring inspections and

3991
03:14:10,479 --> 03:14:12,560
maintenance compliance, and clearly

3992
03:14:12,560 --> 03:14:14,560
prohibiting the personal use of county

3993
03:14:14,560 --> 03:14:16,880
vehicles. This strengthens oversight

3994
03:14:16,880 --> 03:14:18,560
while protecting operational

3995
03:14:18,560 --> 03:14:20,880
effectiveness.

3996
03:14:20,880 --> 03:14:22,720
administration did a best practice

3997
03:14:22,720 --> 03:14:25,040
review and we contacted eight rural and

3998
03:14:25,040 --> 03:14:26,960
regional municipalities to review their

3999
03:14:26,960 --> 03:14:28,880
fleet practices.

4000
03:14:28,880 --> 03:14:30,800
Of those that responded, half allow

4001
03:14:30,800 --> 03:14:33,200
take-home vehicles for utility operators

4002
03:14:33,200 --> 03:14:35,359
and transportation supervisors when

4003
03:14:35,359 --> 03:14:37,600
justified by emergency response needs

4004
03:14:37,600 --> 03:14:40,720
and field-based service delivery.

4005
03:14:40,720 --> 03:14:42,880
Common controls include no personal use,

4006
03:14:42,880 --> 03:14:45,760
GPS monitoring, documented operational

4007
03:14:45,760 --> 03:14:49,279
justification, and revoke revoking

4008
03:14:49,279 --> 03:14:52,239
privileges if misuse occurs. And this

4009
03:14:52,239 --> 03:14:53,680
aligns closely with what is being

4010
03:14:53,680 --> 03:14:56,239
proposed for Nhill County.

4011
03:14:56,239 --> 03:14:58,319
So based on our analysis, administration

4012
03:14:58,319 --> 03:15:00,560
recommends recommendations are role

4013
03:15:00,560 --> 03:15:02,960
specific. For the utility department, we

4014
03:15:02,960 --> 03:15:04,720
recommend continuing take-home vehicles

4015
03:15:04,720 --> 03:15:07,040
for the utility operators and the one

4016
03:15:07,040 --> 03:15:09,439
utility supervisor because they directly

4017
03:15:09,439 --> 03:15:11,920
support emergency response capability,

4018
03:15:11,920 --> 03:15:14,000
regulatory compliance, and efficient

4019
03:15:14,000 --> 03:15:16,720
field-based service delivery. However,

4020
03:15:16,720 --> 03:15:18,319
administration is recommending that the

4021
03:15:18,319 --> 03:15:20,640
take-home privileges for the manager of

4022
03:15:20,640 --> 03:15:23,520
utility services be discontinued as

4023
03:15:23,520 --> 03:15:24,960
there's not sufficient operational

4024
03:15:24,960 --> 03:15:26,560
justification to support continued

4025
03:15:26,560 --> 03:15:29,279
take-home use for that role.

4026
03:15:29,279 --> 03:15:30,640
for the transportation department.

4027
03:15:30,640 --> 03:15:32,000
Administration recommends continued

4028
03:15:32,000 --> 03:15:33,279
take-home vehicles for the

4029
03:15:33,279 --> 03:15:35,439
transportation supervisors and the

4030
03:15:35,439 --> 03:15:37,200
transportation superintendent because

4031
03:15:37,200 --> 03:15:39,520
immediate road assessment and crew

4032
03:15:39,520 --> 03:15:42,239
deploy deployment decisions are critical

4033
03:15:42,239 --> 03:15:46,870
during weather and emergency events.

4034
03:15:46,880 --> 03:15:48,880
If a council approves the policy and

4035
03:15:48,880 --> 03:15:50,319
recommends assignments, administration

4036
03:15:50,319 --> 03:15:51,840
will provide formal written notice to

4037
03:15:51,840 --> 03:15:54,239
the effective employees, ensure

4038
03:15:54,239 --> 03:15:56,000
reasonable transition timelines were

4039
03:15:56,000 --> 03:15:58,479
required, and update procedures

4040
03:15:58,479 --> 03:16:00,160
accordingly.

4041
03:16:00,160 --> 03:16:01,920
This approach aligns with the legal

4042
03:16:01,920 --> 03:16:03,760
advice that we were given regarding

4043
03:16:03,760 --> 03:16:05,279
notice when working conditions are

4044
03:16:05,279 --> 03:16:06,800
changed.

4045
03:16:06,800 --> 03:16:09,359
Council has three options for today.

4046
03:16:09,359 --> 03:16:10,960
Option one, accept the analysis and

4047
03:16:10,960 --> 03:16:13,439
policy update for information. Option

4048
03:16:13,439 --> 03:16:15,439
two, take the policy table the policy

4049
03:16:15,439 --> 03:16:16,960
again pending further information as

4050
03:16:16,960 --> 03:16:19,200
directed by council. Option three,

4051
03:16:19,200 --> 03:16:21,200
approve the re revised policy and

4052
03:16:21,200 --> 03:16:22,319
recommended take-home vehicle

4053
03:16:22,319 --> 03:16:26,550
assignments as presented.

4054
03:16:26,560 --> 03:16:27,760
» Can you breathe? Can you breathe now?

4055
03:16:27,760 --> 03:16:28,309
>> I can.

4056
03:16:28,309 --> 03:16:28,319
» I can.

4057
03:16:28,319 --> 03:16:28,710
>> Okay.

4058
03:16:28,710 --> 03:16:28,720
» Okay.

4059
03:16:28,720 --> 03:16:29,670
>> Thank you.

4060
03:16:29,670 --> 03:16:29,680
» Thank you.

4061
03:16:29,680 --> 03:16:31,750
>> All right.

4062
03:16:31,750 --> 03:16:31,760
» All right.

4063
03:16:31,760 --> 03:16:34,720
A lot of information here.

4064
03:16:34,720 --> 03:16:37,600
I can write a book on why I should take

4065
03:16:37,600 --> 03:16:39,920
a company struck home.

4066
03:16:39,920 --> 03:16:42,560
Some of this is that I don't believe a

4067
03:16:42,560 --> 03:16:45,680
lot of this. Number one, when we sit

4068
03:16:45,680 --> 03:16:48,160
here and we go out and we talk to 50 or

4069
03:16:48,160 --> 03:16:50,319
we talk to the surrounding MDs and

4070
03:16:50,319 --> 03:16:53,040
counties on what they do, I have a real

4071
03:16:53,040 --> 03:16:56,560
problem because we got all the people

4072
03:16:56,560 --> 03:16:58,239
that are working around in our counties

4073
03:16:58,239 --> 03:17:01,200
now are recycled from the CEOs down to

4074
03:17:01,200 --> 03:17:02,880
the superintendent. And it's even

4075
03:17:02,880 --> 03:17:05,520
happened here. We got people that are

4076
03:17:05,520 --> 03:17:07,040
taking vehicles home because they took

4077
03:17:07,040 --> 03:17:08,720
vehicles home here. So naturally they're

4078
03:17:08,720 --> 03:17:10,319
going to say that I don't believe

4079
03:17:10,319 --> 03:17:12,640
anything like that these guys are saying

4080
03:17:12,640 --> 03:17:15,200
this is Neihill County. This is about

4081
03:17:15,200 --> 03:17:17,920
taxpayers dollars.

4082
03:17:17,920 --> 03:17:20,000
There is some justification on a few

4083
03:17:20,000 --> 03:17:22,640
things. Transportation supervisors not a

4084
03:17:22,640 --> 03:17:24,560
chance. I don't believe that one bit.

4085
03:17:24,560 --> 03:17:26,399
We've never had vehicles going home with

4086
03:17:26,399 --> 03:17:28,960
these guys. They are not in a position

4087
03:17:28,960 --> 03:17:31,840
to go out and uh get on the road right

4088
03:17:31,840 --> 03:17:34,399
away. And it that just doesn't that

4089
03:17:34,399 --> 03:17:36,160
doesn't happen. I know it doesn't

4090
03:17:36,160 --> 03:17:37,520
happen.

4091
03:17:37,520 --> 03:17:40,239
The other the other thing is, if I

4092
03:17:40,239 --> 03:17:41,920
remember right, and correct me if I'm

4093
03:17:41,920 --> 03:17:46,319
wrong, we asked how many times that

4094
03:17:46,319 --> 03:17:48,160
there was emer they were called out for

4095
03:17:48,160 --> 03:17:50,479
emergency services. That's what this

4096
03:17:50,479 --> 03:17:52,560
discussion started. These guys that were

4097
03:17:52,560 --> 03:17:54,479
taking the vehicles home, how many times

4098
03:17:54,479 --> 03:17:56,640
was there, how many times have they been

4099
03:17:56,640 --> 03:17:58,479
called out for emergency services? And

4100
03:17:58,479 --> 03:18:00,000
I'm not talking about just going down to

4101
03:18:00,000 --> 03:18:02,160
a pump house and shutting an alarm off

4102
03:18:02,160 --> 03:18:04,880
because we got a bad system. I don't see

4103
03:18:04,880 --> 03:18:08,000
that here. Um, I I'm not in favor one

4104
03:18:08,000 --> 03:18:12,960
bit of of uh trucks going home. Uh,

4105
03:18:12,960 --> 03:18:15,359
we're even on call. I mean, I don't

4106
03:18:15,359 --> 03:18:18,000
think we have everybody on call at once.

4107
03:18:18,000 --> 03:18:20,560
Like, it it it just doesn't to me, this

4108
03:18:20,560 --> 03:18:22,080
is

4109
03:18:22,080 --> 03:18:24,239
this isn't even even in the ballpark

4110
03:18:24,239 --> 03:18:26,399
where where I think we should be at

4111
03:18:26,399 --> 03:18:29,040
providing a service to our rateayers.

4112
03:18:29,040 --> 03:18:30,560
That being said, that started the

4113
03:18:30,560 --> 03:18:35,439
conversation. Uh, anyone else comments?

4114
03:18:35,439 --> 03:18:38,160
Councelor Olsson.

4115
03:18:38,160 --> 03:18:40,550
>> Yeah, I guess I have one question. Do we

4116
03:18:40,550 --> 03:18:40,560
» Yeah, I guess I have one question. Do we

4117
03:18:40,560 --> 03:18:44,319
have GPS and telematics in the vehicles

4118
03:18:44,319 --> 03:18:46,160
uh right now?

4119
03:18:46,160 --> 03:18:47,429
>> Through the Reef Hall of Council, we

4120
03:18:47,429 --> 03:18:47,439
» Through the Reef Hall of Council, we

4121
03:18:47,439 --> 03:18:48,880
have them in most of our vehicles, but

4122
03:18:48,880 --> 03:18:50,880
not all of them. And uh however, without

4123
03:18:50,880 --> 03:18:52,640
policy, we can't use them for purposes

4124
03:18:52,640 --> 03:18:54,800
of discipline.

4125
03:18:54,800 --> 03:18:56,640
But we do have GPS stat on most of our

4126
03:18:56,640 --> 03:18:58,640
vehicles. And I can assure you that our

4127
03:18:58,640 --> 03:19:00,160
vehicle operators do start as soon as

4128
03:19:00,160 --> 03:19:02,000
they hit the county roads and they are

4129
03:19:02,000 --> 03:19:03,680
inspecting and providing advice to their

4130
03:19:03,680 --> 03:19:05,200
staff thereafter.

4131
03:19:05,200 --> 03:19:07,990
>> And what and what cost do we have on

4132
03:19:07,990 --> 03:19:08,000
» And what and what cost do we have on

4133
03:19:08,000 --> 03:19:11,359
that on that those systems

4134
03:19:11,359 --> 03:19:14,229
>> through the like for the GPS systems

4135
03:19:14,229 --> 03:19:14,239
» through the like for the GPS systems

4136
03:19:14,239 --> 03:19:15,590
>> through the reef to all of council. I'll

4137
03:19:15,590 --> 03:19:15,600
» through the reef to all of council. I'll

4138
03:19:15,600 --> 03:19:16,960
have to find out the exact number. I'm

4139
03:19:16,960 --> 03:19:19,920
not certain. But it is a a tool that we

4140
03:19:19,920 --> 03:19:21,760
would enjoy having because it gives us

4141
03:19:21,760 --> 03:19:23,920
good data to provide back to council on

4142
03:19:23,920 --> 03:19:26,399
when and where and why we are where we

4143
03:19:26,399 --> 03:19:27,680
are.

4144
03:19:27,680 --> 03:19:29,349
>> But I can find out the exact number on

4145
03:19:29,349 --> 03:19:29,359
» But I can find out the exact number on

4146
03:19:29,359 --> 03:19:31,279
the GPS. It'll probably come to my teams

4147
03:19:31,279 --> 03:19:32,960
in about 3 seconds. So,

4148
03:19:32,960 --> 03:19:35,030
>> well, I just know these systems are

4149
03:19:35,030 --> 03:19:35,040
» well, I just know these systems are

4150
03:19:35,040 --> 03:19:37,279
expensive. And

4151
03:19:37,279 --> 03:19:40,720
I mean, do we really need to know,

4152
03:19:40,720 --> 03:19:42,800
you know, exactly where everybody's at?

4153
03:19:42,800 --> 03:19:44,560
I mean, I guess as far as a safety

4154
03:19:44,560 --> 03:19:47,520
concern is, I can see part of that, but

4155
03:19:47,520 --> 03:19:49,040
uh yeah, I guess it's something to

4156
03:19:49,040 --> 03:19:50,640
discuss later.

4157
03:19:50,640 --> 03:19:52,070
>> Well, through the reef tall council,

4158
03:19:52,070 --> 03:19:52,080
» Well, through the reef tall council,

4159
03:19:52,080 --> 03:19:53,200
sorry, I didn't mean to just jump in

4160
03:19:53,200 --> 03:19:54,800
there, but I did receive the, you know,

4161
03:19:54,800 --> 03:19:57,680
as I said, the just magic uh 25 per

4162
03:19:57,680 --> 03:19:59,520
month per vehicle, and it is a useful

4163
03:19:59,520 --> 03:20:01,840
tool because it does allow us to to plan

4164
03:20:01,840 --> 03:20:03,920
accordingly to where the graders are and

4165
03:20:03,920 --> 03:20:05,520
where they've been and how how many

4166
03:20:05,520 --> 03:20:07,279
miles they've driven. And it it does

4167
03:20:07,279 --> 03:20:09,120
support our asset management, but it is

4168
03:20:09,120 --> 03:20:10,479
certainly something we can take out, but

4169
03:20:10,479 --> 03:20:13,600
it's 25 per month per vehicle.

4170
03:20:13,600 --> 03:20:16,319
So just for curiosity, uh you have a

4171
03:20:16,319 --> 03:20:18,880
team of people uh listening to this or

4172
03:20:18,880 --> 03:20:20,080
sitting on the computer listening to

4173
03:20:20,080 --> 03:20:20,960
council meetings

4174
03:20:20,960 --> 03:20:22,309
>> through the reef to all of council. I

4175
03:20:22,309 --> 03:20:22,319
» through the reef to all of council. I

4176
03:20:22,319 --> 03:20:23,439
suspect that most employees are

4177
03:20:23,439 --> 03:20:25,760
listening to council. They have YouTube

4178
03:20:25,760 --> 03:20:27,359
and they're all sitting and listening

4179
03:20:27,359 --> 03:20:29,040
because they're prepared. Certain staff

4180
03:20:29,040 --> 03:20:30,479
will be prepared to answer questions

4181
03:20:30,479 --> 03:20:32,640
like asset management is listening um

4182
03:20:32,640 --> 03:20:34,640
where he indicated that the GPS is also

4183
03:20:34,640 --> 03:20:36,319
tied to our fuel system. So it's very

4184
03:20:36,319 --> 03:20:37,920
helpful for us sitting here because we

4185
03:20:37,920 --> 03:20:40,160
don't know all the answers but we try to

4186
03:20:40,160 --> 03:20:42,880
provide them in real time.

4187
03:20:42,880 --> 03:20:45,279
Uh, okay. Uh, one of the one of the

4188
03:20:45,279 --> 03:20:46,720
other concerns that I have, and it's

4189
03:20:46,720 --> 03:20:48,319
brought up by taxpayers, when we have

4190
03:20:48,319 --> 03:20:49,760
people that don't even live in this

4191
03:20:49,760 --> 03:20:51,279
county and they're driving county trucks

4192
03:20:51,279 --> 03:20:55,439
home, uh, they're not in favor of that.

4193
03:20:55,439 --> 03:20:57,520
Uh, councelor Olsson or Councelor

4194
03:20:57,520 --> 03:21:03,510
Anderson, did you have a comment there?

4195
03:21:03,520 --> 03:21:06,960
» Councelor Cunningham. So, thank you for

4196
03:21:06,960 --> 03:21:09,600
this report and the utilities piece was

4197
03:21:09,600 --> 03:21:12,319
very helpful for me and I like I know

4198
03:21:12,319 --> 03:21:14,239
some of it I don't want to overstep the

4199
03:21:14,239 --> 03:21:17,120
privacy boundaries, but this made sense

4200
03:21:17,120 --> 03:21:19,040
to me, but I'm just wondering with our

4201
03:21:19,040 --> 03:21:21,120
transportation supervisors, it doesn't

4202
03:21:21,120 --> 03:21:22,800
it doesn't give us the same data, right?

4203
03:21:22,800 --> 03:21:26,000
Like where they're coming from. Um,

4204
03:21:26,000 --> 03:21:27,840
and then just further to that, like with

4205
03:21:27,840 --> 03:21:30,000
the transportation supervisors, are they

4206
03:21:30,000 --> 03:21:32,880
going out in the evenings or weekends or

4207
03:21:32,880 --> 03:21:35,279
is it strictly they're working the the

4208
03:21:35,279 --> 03:21:37,520
regular county hours

4209
03:21:37,520 --> 03:21:39,269
>> through the Reef to all of council? So,

4210
03:21:39,269 --> 03:21:39,279
» through the Reef to all of council? So,

4211
03:21:39,279 --> 03:21:40,560
it would depend on if there was a

4212
03:21:40,560 --> 03:21:41,760
weather event. If there was a weather

4213
03:21:41,760 --> 03:21:43,200
event, the supervisors would be out on

4214
03:21:43,200 --> 03:21:44,640
the road inspecting roads so they would

4215
03:21:44,640 --> 03:21:46,080
know where to deploy their on call

4216
03:21:46,080 --> 03:21:48,319
staff. So, that is their responsibility.

4217
03:21:48,319 --> 03:21:50,080
Um, they would be they would know just

4218
03:21:50,080 --> 03:21:51,279
jump in their truck if it's snowing.

4219
03:21:51,279 --> 03:21:53,600
They'd be touring roads. And for our

4220
03:21:53,600 --> 03:21:55,200
transportation supervisor, sorry we

4221
03:21:55,200 --> 03:21:57,520
didn't have our map uh our wonderful map

4222
03:21:57,520 --> 03:21:59,520
person do that, but they both start at

4223
03:21:59,520 --> 03:22:02,640
their area. So, one of them lives on the

4224
03:22:02,640 --> 03:22:04,479
northeast side and they start that's

4225
03:22:04,479 --> 03:22:05,840
their division. So, they start

4226
03:22:05,840 --> 03:22:07,359
inspecting roads. So, we're very smart

4227
03:22:07,359 --> 03:22:09,359
about assigning people to the areas that

4228
03:22:09,359 --> 03:22:10,720
they start in where they're coming

4229
03:22:10,720 --> 03:22:13,200
because we have 1,800 km of roads. We

4230
03:22:13,200 --> 03:22:15,200
have a lot to inspect to make sure that

4231
03:22:15,200 --> 03:22:16,800
everything is safe.

4232
03:22:16,800 --> 03:22:18,800
1,800 kilometers of road has been here

4233
03:22:18,800 --> 03:22:21,680
for 35 years or 40 years. It and there

4234
03:22:21,680 --> 03:22:23,439
was never any trucks going home back

4235
03:22:23,439 --> 03:22:25,840
then. There there was more stuff going

4236
03:22:25,840 --> 03:22:28,479
on back then with equipment and stuff.

4237
03:22:28,479 --> 03:22:31,200
Uh like to me this is unacceptable to

4238
03:22:31,200 --> 03:22:34,160
have the su uh transportation out taking

4239
03:22:34,160 --> 03:22:36,720
vehicles home because of this. You are

4240
03:22:36,720 --> 03:22:38,960
paid to come to work.

4241
03:22:38,960 --> 03:22:40,640
I mean if we're going to sit here and

4242
03:22:40,640 --> 03:22:42,160
say the superintendents are going to get

4243
03:22:42,160 --> 03:22:43,600
out there right away and phone up the

4244
03:22:43,600 --> 03:22:45,600
the operators and get them out there.

4245
03:22:45,600 --> 03:22:48,720
Well, I can call that uh not really

4246
03:22:48,720 --> 03:22:51,520
true. But to me, this doesn't need to be

4247
03:22:51,520 --> 03:22:53,359
done. They can come into the shop, get

4248
03:22:53,359 --> 03:22:54,880
their trucks, and get back out there.

4249
03:22:54,880 --> 03:22:57,760
This is taxpayers dollars. Is there's

4250
03:22:57,760 --> 03:23:00,319
nothing real major happening. There

4251
03:23:00,319 --> 03:23:03,920
never has been on the on the roads.

4252
03:23:03,920 --> 03:23:07,910
Councelor Woodstock.

4253
03:23:07,920 --> 03:23:10,399
» Okay. I would like to speak to the

4254
03:23:10,399 --> 03:23:15,520
utility side. I think because as CEO

4255
03:23:15,520 --> 03:23:18,880
Cochran has stated, the utilities very

4256
03:23:18,880 --> 03:23:21,520
seldom even comes into the shop other

4257
03:23:21,520 --> 03:23:23,359
than Mondays to test their water

4258
03:23:23,359 --> 03:23:26,399
samples. The rest of the rest of the

4259
03:23:26,399 --> 03:23:29,040
week they actually deploy from home with

4260
03:23:29,040 --> 03:23:31,439
a truck that already has all the

4261
03:23:31,439 --> 03:23:34,239
equipment that they need. uh depending

4262
03:23:34,239 --> 03:23:36,960
where they deploy from they could be

4263
03:23:36,960 --> 03:23:39,439
wasting basically well if you have an

4264
03:23:39,439 --> 03:23:41,439
operator coming from Lynden to Three

4265
03:23:41,439 --> 03:23:43,760
Hills picking up a vehicle and then

4266
03:23:43,760 --> 03:23:47,600
heading back to Lyndon Acme Bicer Canana

4267
03:23:47,600 --> 03:23:49,840
you're losing basically an hour

4268
03:23:49,840 --> 03:23:52,000
according to the report I think would

4269
03:23:52,000 --> 03:23:54,880
make more sense to deploy from home

4270
03:23:54,880 --> 03:23:57,120
headed in that direction I don't know

4271
03:23:57,120 --> 03:23:59,120
where all the operators live where they

4272
03:23:59,120 --> 03:24:01,920
deploy from but I think anytime that you

4273
03:24:01,920 --> 03:24:05,200
save some time

4274
03:24:05,200 --> 03:24:08,479
and provide extra coverage

4275
03:24:08,479 --> 03:24:11,279
rather than losing an hour deploying and

4276
03:24:11,279 --> 03:24:13,200
traveling and then coming back to where

4277
03:24:13,200 --> 03:24:15,520
you started from. I think that would be

4278
03:24:15,520 --> 03:24:19,920
important. I believe I do see the value

4279
03:24:19,920 --> 03:24:23,840
in the utility operators actually dep

4280
03:24:23,840 --> 03:24:25,840
using a vehicle to deploy and go

4281
03:24:25,840 --> 03:24:29,040
straight to work rather than traveling

4282
03:24:29,040 --> 03:24:32,319
for whatever amount of time it is to

4283
03:24:32,319 --> 03:24:34,800
pick up their vehicle and then go back

4284
03:24:34,800 --> 03:24:37,120
to where they were and start deploying

4285
03:24:37,120 --> 03:24:39,760
or start working from there. But that is

4286
03:24:39,760 --> 03:24:43,040
my thoughts on it. I find it um I find

4287
03:24:43,040 --> 03:24:46,800
it justifiable. Councelor Olsson.

4288
03:24:46,800 --> 03:24:48,950
>> Yeah, I I

4289
03:24:48,950 --> 03:24:48,960
» Yeah, I I

4290
03:24:48,960 --> 03:24:52,319
kind of agree uh to some extent with the

4291
03:24:52,319 --> 03:24:58,640
utilities uh operators. Um but I'm also

4292
03:24:58,640 --> 03:25:01,520
uh

4293
03:25:01,520 --> 03:25:04,800
you know there's usually what one or two

4294
03:25:04,800 --> 03:25:07,439
guys on at a time or one guy on call at

4295
03:25:07,439 --> 03:25:09,279
a time or No,

4296
03:25:09,279 --> 03:25:11,190
>> they they all start work at the same

4297
03:25:11,190 --> 03:25:11,200
» they they all start work at the same

4298
03:25:11,200 --> 03:25:12,399
time.

4299
03:25:12,399 --> 03:25:15,590
>> Okay. Um Unless there's an emergency,

4300
03:25:15,590 --> 03:25:15,600
» Okay. Um Unless there's an emergency,

4301
03:25:15,600 --> 03:25:17,920
then there will be one.

4302
03:25:17,920 --> 03:25:21,349
>> Yeah. No, you answer that. Sorry.

4303
03:25:21,349 --> 03:25:21,359
» Yeah. No, you answer that. Sorry.

4304
03:25:21,359 --> 03:25:23,830
>> No, I but I agree with the water guys

4305
03:25:23,830 --> 03:25:23,840
» No, I but I agree with the water guys

4306
03:25:23,840 --> 03:25:26,239
because that's a that's something but I

4307
03:25:26,239 --> 03:25:29,040
mean as I kind of tend to lean with

4308
03:25:29,040 --> 03:25:32,000
Lonnie on on some of the

4309
03:25:32,000 --> 03:25:34,880
um infrastructure and transportation.

4310
03:25:34,880 --> 03:25:38,800
Um, yeah, those guys, nobody's going out

4311
03:25:38,800 --> 03:25:41,439
in the dark usually to, you know, they

4312
03:25:41,439 --> 03:25:43,359
can they can make it to work and and

4313
03:25:43,359 --> 03:25:48,960
then go even if even in a storm event.

4314
03:25:48,960 --> 03:25:51,349
>> Council Hopkins,

4315
03:25:51,349 --> 03:25:51,359
» Council Hopkins,

4316
03:25:51,359 --> 03:25:55,200
I'm on the fence with this policy. Um,

4317
03:25:55,200 --> 03:25:58,870
part of me

4318
03:25:58,880 --> 03:26:02,560
wants to keep the utilities side and

4319
03:26:02,560 --> 03:26:04,640
remove the transportation

4320
03:26:04,640 --> 03:26:07,840
vehicles. Um,

4321
03:26:07,840 --> 03:26:09,680
it's unfortunate that we had some bad

4322
03:26:09,680 --> 03:26:12,319
eggs that kind of put a sour taste in a

4323
03:26:12,319 --> 03:26:17,840
lot of rateayers eyes and and mouths and

4324
03:26:17,840 --> 03:26:20,399
we need to make sure that our vehicles

4325
03:26:20,399 --> 03:26:23,439
are being treated and driven.

4326
03:26:23,439 --> 03:26:26,560
um and following the rules of the road.

4327
03:26:26,560 --> 03:26:29,439
Uh,

4328
03:26:29,439 --> 03:26:32,160
I'd like

4329
03:26:32,160 --> 03:26:34,319
to maybe

4330
03:26:34,319 --> 03:26:36,479
put it in your in the rest of council's

4331
03:26:36,479 --> 03:26:39,279
thoughts that if we could do a trial

4332
03:26:39,279 --> 03:26:42,479
period where we maybe allow the

4333
03:26:42,479 --> 03:26:45,920
utilities to follow through but pull

4334
03:26:45,920 --> 03:26:48,399
back on the transportation,

4335
03:26:48,399 --> 03:26:50,560
try it for

4336
03:26:50,560 --> 03:26:52,800
six months, maybe eight month, even a

4337
03:26:52,800 --> 03:26:54,319
year.

4338
03:26:54,319 --> 03:26:56,720
uh and then go from there. That's kind

4339
03:26:56,720 --> 03:27:00,479
of my recommendation at this point.

4340
03:27:00,479 --> 03:27:03,590
>> Thank you. Uh councelor Hopkins. Um uh

4341
03:27:03,590 --> 03:27:03,600
» Thank you. Uh councelor Hopkins. Um uh

4342
03:27:03,600 --> 03:27:05,359
Councelor Anderson,

4343
03:27:05,359 --> 03:27:08,070
>> I tend to agree with that. Although if

4344
03:27:08,070 --> 03:27:08,080
» I tend to agree with that. Although if

4345
03:27:08,080 --> 03:27:10,080
we have GPS,

4346
03:27:10,080 --> 03:27:13,200
I've been living in a world where we

4347
03:27:13,200 --> 03:27:17,200
have logs, travel logs. If we're finding

4348
03:27:17,200 --> 03:27:20,560
these people are maybe we should

4349
03:27:20,560 --> 03:27:23,680
institute a travel log. I mean, does it

4350
03:27:23,680 --> 03:27:25,840
take that much for them? I've done it,

4351
03:27:25,840 --> 03:27:28,960
you know. Yeah. If if if we can

4352
03:27:28,960 --> 03:27:31,279
substantiate what they're doing, if it's

4353
03:27:31,279 --> 03:27:33,200
in that trial period, if it's not

4354
03:27:33,200 --> 03:27:35,760
showing any big problems, then maybe we

4355
03:27:35,760 --> 03:27:37,520
can look at it a different way. If we're

4356
03:27:37,520 --> 03:27:39,760
seeing problems, then maybe we do have

4357
03:27:39,760 --> 03:27:42,160
justification to do all these things. I

4358
03:27:42,160 --> 03:27:45,760
do agree that uh the uh some of the

4359
03:27:45,760 --> 03:27:47,840
utilities are very important, especially

4360
03:27:47,840 --> 03:27:50,960
when you get to human water treatment

4361
03:27:50,960 --> 03:27:52,479
stuff like that. it has to be looked

4362
03:27:52,479 --> 03:27:55,920
after. And uh I think then we have to

4363
03:27:55,920 --> 03:27:58,080
look again at our hiring practices. If

4364
03:27:58,080 --> 03:28:00,960
we're hiring people out of the community

4365
03:28:00,960 --> 03:28:03,520
to do these jobs, should we not change

4366
03:28:03,520 --> 03:28:05,439
our practice to hire people that are

4367
03:28:05,439 --> 03:28:07,680
willing to live within our boundaries

4368
03:28:07,680 --> 03:28:09,840
instead of providing them with

4369
03:28:09,840 --> 03:28:12,800
transportation to other places?

4370
03:28:12,800 --> 03:28:15,429
>> Councelor uh Anderson get some good

4371
03:28:15,429 --> 03:28:15,439
» Councelor uh Anderson get some good

4372
03:28:15,439 --> 03:28:17,600
comments and I mean that the problem is

4373
03:28:17,600 --> 03:28:19,040
is we do have a lot of people from

4374
03:28:19,040 --> 03:28:21,760
outside. I mean, this is this is the

4375
03:28:21,760 --> 03:28:23,200
policy that we're talking about. We

4376
03:28:23,200 --> 03:28:25,040
never had one before. It's brought back

4377
03:28:25,040 --> 03:28:27,439
into into council's hands where we can

4378
03:28:27,439 --> 03:28:31,439
control it. Um, I'm I'm I'm all I'm not

4379
03:28:31,439 --> 03:28:34,239
all quite there on utilities. I'm there

4380
03:28:34,239 --> 03:28:36,239
part way. I understand that part.

4381
03:28:36,239 --> 03:28:39,600
Transportation definitely not. Um, I can

4382
03:28:39,600 --> 03:28:41,279
and I think if you guys want to do a

4383
03:28:41,279 --> 03:28:42,880
trial period, that's fine. It's still in

4384
03:28:42,880 --> 03:28:44,080
our hands. Mhm.

4385
03:28:44,080 --> 03:28:45,670
>> Um,

4386
03:28:45,670 --> 03:28:45,680
» Um,

4387
03:28:45,680 --> 03:28:49,200
but I mean this place has never changed

4388
03:28:49,200 --> 03:28:51,279
and I I'm not buying a lot of this stuff

4389
03:28:51,279 --> 03:28:53,120
and it's pretty easy for somebody I can

4390
03:28:53,120 --> 03:28:55,120
sit there and write the four pages of

4391
03:28:55,120 --> 03:28:57,359
why I should be taking a truck home. You

4392
03:28:57,359 --> 03:29:02,239
know, that's just how it is. So, um,

4393
03:29:02,239 --> 03:29:03,920
I

4394
03:29:03,920 --> 03:29:06,319
guess my question was and it was still

4395
03:29:06,319 --> 03:29:08,239
from before and I don't know if we can

4396
03:29:08,239 --> 03:29:11,600
handle it or if we even looked into it.

4397
03:29:11,600 --> 03:29:14,800
Is there a pile of emergency

4398
03:29:14,800 --> 03:29:17,200
call out?

4399
03:29:17,200 --> 03:29:19,120
That was the question from last time.

4400
03:29:19,120 --> 03:29:20,560
That's what we were going to decide on

4401
03:29:20,560 --> 03:29:23,120
the utilities.

4402
03:29:23,120 --> 03:29:25,520
If that utilities operators, if there's

4403
03:29:25,520 --> 03:29:27,840
not a pile of them, that's fine. Okay,

4404
03:29:27,840 --> 03:29:30,720
we can we can work it that way. But if

4405
03:29:30,720 --> 03:29:32,960
those utility operators are on call,

4406
03:29:32,960 --> 03:29:34,560
each one of them are on call for their

4407
03:29:34,560 --> 03:29:37,120
own area. I have a problem with that,

4408
03:29:37,120 --> 03:29:37,590
>> right?

4409
03:29:37,590 --> 03:29:37,600
» right?

4410
03:29:37,600 --> 03:29:39,269
>> They there's only you only need one to

4411
03:29:39,269 --> 03:29:39,279
» They there's only you only need one to

4412
03:29:39,279 --> 03:29:43,040
be on call. You don't need five of them.

4413
03:29:43,040 --> 03:29:44,790
>> And that's I guess the clarity that I'm

4414
03:29:44,790 --> 03:29:44,800
» And that's I guess the clarity that I'm

4415
03:29:44,800 --> 03:29:48,630
looking for.

4416
03:29:48,640 --> 03:29:52,229
» Councelor Woodstock.

4417
03:29:52,239 --> 03:29:54,560
» I'm not sure how many utility operators

4418
03:29:54,560 --> 03:29:57,200
are on call, but what I'm looking at is

4419
03:29:57,200 --> 03:30:00,560
the response time to leave from home,

4420
03:30:00,560 --> 03:30:02,479
come up to the off or come up to the

4421
03:30:02,479 --> 03:30:05,200
shop, grab a vehicle, and then basically

4422
03:30:05,200 --> 03:30:07,359
go return to where they started from to

4423
03:30:07,359 --> 03:30:10,000
start their day. Uh, according to the

4424
03:30:10,000 --> 03:30:12,239
report, that could waste up to an hour a

4425
03:30:12,239 --> 03:30:16,640
day. Um, the guys, I'm thinking

4426
03:30:16,640 --> 03:30:18,319
specifically of the guys on the south

4427
03:30:18,319 --> 03:30:21,040
because I know that when they leave

4428
03:30:21,040 --> 03:30:24,239
home, they probably check the reservoirs

4429
03:30:24,239 --> 03:30:29,120
both in Lynen, Acme, Urana, Inhana,

4430
03:30:29,120 --> 03:30:33,920
Bicer, I mean, and they start their day

4431
03:30:33,920 --> 03:30:35,840
whatever time. If it's 7 o'clock, then

4432
03:30:35,840 --> 03:30:38,319
it's 7 o'clock. They don't drive to

4433
03:30:38,319 --> 03:30:40,640
Three Hills, get into another vehicle at

4434
03:30:40,640 --> 03:30:43,920
7:30, then drive back to Lynon at 8:00

4435
03:30:43,920 --> 03:30:46,640
and start their day at 8. I see the

4436
03:30:46,640 --> 03:30:48,399
rationale

4437
03:30:48,399 --> 03:30:51,680
that if we start the day from the time

4438
03:30:51,680 --> 03:30:54,080
they get into their vehicles and start

4439
03:30:54,080 --> 03:30:57,120
working, I see that as not being a waste

4440
03:30:57,120 --> 03:30:59,200
of time. I do not see that as being a

4441
03:30:59,200 --> 03:31:01,040
waste of

4442
03:31:01,040 --> 03:31:04,960
county equipment. I see that as being

4443
03:31:04,960 --> 03:31:07,600
getting more done at the end of the day

4444
03:31:07,600 --> 03:31:09,760
because our systems travel all the way

4445
03:31:09,760 --> 03:31:12,880
from Drumheller to Irana and then we

4446
03:31:12,880 --> 03:31:15,040
also have the majority of our pump

4447
03:31:15,040 --> 03:31:16,960
houses in the southern end of the

4448
03:31:16,960 --> 03:31:18,479
county.

4449
03:31:18,479 --> 03:31:22,160
So that being stated, that's where they

4450
03:31:22,160 --> 03:31:24,640
reside, I'm assuming. And that would

4451
03:31:24,640 --> 03:31:29,120
make it far more economical and far more

4452
03:31:29,120 --> 03:31:31,439
uh make it'll make far more sense to

4453
03:31:31,439 --> 03:31:32,960
start from home than it would be to come

4454
03:31:32,960 --> 03:31:34,560
up to Three Hills and then start all

4455
03:31:34,560 --> 03:31:38,239
over again. My thoughts anyway.

4456
03:31:38,239 --> 03:31:40,950
>> Uh councelor Olsson.

4457
03:31:40,950 --> 03:31:40,960
» Uh councelor Olsson.

4458
03:31:40,960 --> 03:31:42,950
>> Yeah, I mean

4459
03:31:42,950 --> 03:31:42,960
» Yeah, I mean

4460
03:31:42,960 --> 03:31:45,120
I agree with that, but it can work both

4461
03:31:45,120 --> 03:31:47,920
ways too. We could have somebody, you

4462
03:31:47,920 --> 03:31:51,120
know, uh, utility operator that's in

4463
03:31:51,120 --> 03:31:54,720
division, lives in division, uh, six and

4464
03:31:54,720 --> 03:31:56,640
has to go,

4465
03:31:56,640 --> 03:31:58,800
uh, all the way to Drumheller or

4466
03:31:58,800 --> 03:32:00,560
whatever, I guess. Yeah, we have to

4467
03:32:00,560 --> 03:32:02,160
build

4468
03:32:02,160 --> 03:32:05,840
some discretion into it. Yeah, cuz if if

4469
03:32:05,840 --> 03:32:08,880
they're going to the pump house down in

4470
03:32:08,880 --> 03:32:11,520
by Knackmine or whatever and they live

4471
03:32:11,520 --> 03:32:15,279
close. Yeah, it's it's yeah, it's it

4472
03:32:15,279 --> 03:32:17,520
it does make sense not to drive all the

4473
03:32:17,520 --> 03:32:19,920
way to the county office and all the way

4474
03:32:19,920 --> 03:32:25,760
back cuz uh regardless it's it's

4475
03:32:25,760 --> 03:32:29,040
using our vehicle two ways regardless.

4476
03:32:29,040 --> 03:32:32,560
But yeah, I mean it's it's going to be

4477
03:32:32,560 --> 03:32:35,439
tough because we don't know,

4478
03:32:35,439 --> 03:32:37,920
you know, we're making special allowance

4479
03:32:37,920 --> 03:32:40,960
for certain people and yeah, it's it's

4480
03:32:40,960 --> 03:32:44,640
it's going to be a nightmare, I think.

4481
03:32:44,640 --> 03:32:46,550
>> Cocker,

4482
03:32:46,550 --> 03:32:46,560
» Cocker,

4483
03:32:46,560 --> 03:32:47,910
>> thank you. Through the reef to all of

4484
03:32:47,910 --> 03:32:47,920
» thank you. Through the reef to all of

4485
03:32:47,920 --> 03:32:49,840
council. So great discussion. Thank you

4486
03:32:49,840 --> 03:32:51,520
for that. The policy as it's written

4487
03:32:51,520 --> 03:32:53,439
gives council full control. So if you

4488
03:32:53,439 --> 03:32:55,520
pass approve the policy as written, no

4489
03:32:55,520 --> 03:32:57,120
vehicles go home with anybody. That

4490
03:32:57,120 --> 03:32:58,720
would be a motion by council to say

4491
03:32:58,720 --> 03:33:00,319
these vehicles go home. So the policy is

4492
03:33:00,319 --> 03:33:03,760
written that way. Uh we've had 54 call

4493
03:33:03,760 --> 03:33:05,920
outs in the past 12 months and those

4494
03:33:05,920 --> 03:33:07,279
would be the ones where they had to

4495
03:33:07,279 --> 03:33:09,279
leave from their homes. So that's quite

4496
03:33:09,279 --> 03:33:11,120
a few number. We have one person on

4497
03:33:11,120 --> 03:33:13,279
call, not more than that. But we have

4498
03:33:13,279 --> 03:33:14,720
three utility operators and one

4499
03:33:14,720 --> 03:33:16,800
supervisor that like I said their their

4500
03:33:16,800 --> 03:33:19,439
trucks do perform as their offices. They

4501
03:33:19,439 --> 03:33:21,680
don't come to the office. They rarely

4502
03:33:21,680 --> 03:33:23,920
come to the office. If they start at the

4503
03:33:23,920 --> 03:33:25,840
office, they got to come in, warm up

4504
03:33:25,840 --> 03:33:27,200
their truck. We're we're we're looking

4505
03:33:27,200 --> 03:33:28,640
at 30 minutes of loss time in the

4506
03:33:28,640 --> 03:33:30,160
morning and 30 minutes of loss time in

4507
03:33:30,160 --> 03:33:32,479
the afternoon. Our operators are very

4508
03:33:32,479 --> 03:33:33,920
efficient and effective at their roles.

4509
03:33:33,920 --> 03:33:35,680
And this isn't about favoritism. This is

4510
03:33:35,680 --> 03:33:38,239
about good business operations. Whereas

4511
03:33:38,239 --> 03:33:39,600
in when I worked in another

4512
03:33:39,600 --> 03:33:41,680
municipality, my building inspectors all

4513
03:33:41,680 --> 03:33:43,680
had offices in their trucks. They took

4514
03:33:43,680 --> 03:33:45,040
their trucks home. They never went into

4515
03:33:45,040 --> 03:33:46,880
the office. We mailed them out, emailed

4516
03:33:46,880 --> 03:33:48,399
them out their stuff, and they went and

4517
03:33:48,399 --> 03:33:49,920
did it. They didn't waste time driving

4518
03:33:49,920 --> 03:33:52,239
back to a central location that isn't

4519
03:33:52,239 --> 03:33:54,319
necessarily near where they're working.

4520
03:33:54,319 --> 03:33:56,399
This isn't about favoritism or about

4521
03:33:56,399 --> 03:33:58,479
special privileges, but these employees

4522
03:33:58,479 --> 03:34:00,560
do have these as taxable benefits within

4523
03:34:00,560 --> 03:34:02,479
their payroll. So, these are taxable

4524
03:34:02,479 --> 03:34:04,000
benefits we have been providing to

4525
03:34:04,000 --> 03:34:05,920
employees. Should we take them away, we

4526
03:34:05,920 --> 03:34:07,439
do need to provide proper notice because

4527
03:34:07,439 --> 03:34:10,720
it could be looked at negatively.

4528
03:34:10,720 --> 03:34:12,560
They're being to have something taken

4529
03:34:12,560 --> 03:34:14,479
away from them. So, we do want to make

4530
03:34:14,479 --> 03:34:16,319
sure that when we're looking at the

4531
03:34:16,319 --> 03:34:18,479
analysis, we're reminding that the

4532
03:34:18,479 --> 03:34:20,640
analysis that we did is based on the

4533
03:34:20,640 --> 03:34:22,720
need for our operators to be out in the

4534
03:34:22,720 --> 03:34:25,120
field.

4535
03:34:25,120 --> 03:34:28,160
Councelor Penner.

4536
03:34:28,160 --> 03:34:31,750
>> So everything that we've heard now, the

4537
03:34:31,750 --> 03:34:31,760
» So everything that we've heard now, the

4538
03:34:31,760 --> 03:34:34,800
information that we get is that

4539
03:34:34,800 --> 03:34:37,520
it's economically efficient to the

4540
03:34:37,520 --> 03:34:40,720
county for vehicles to be going home

4541
03:34:40,720 --> 03:34:44,239
with certain operators.

4542
03:34:44,239 --> 03:34:52,790
We know that it's time efficient.

4543
03:34:52,800 --> 03:34:54,640
If our rateayers are having an issue

4544
03:34:54,640 --> 03:34:57,120
with that, then that's our job as a

4545
03:34:57,120 --> 03:34:59,760
council to do a better job of informing

4546
03:34:59,760 --> 03:35:02,479
our rateayers

4547
03:35:02,479 --> 03:35:04,640
about the efficiencies that are being

4548
03:35:04,640 --> 03:35:08,790
generated.

4549
03:35:08,800 --> 03:35:10,800
We've got intelligent rateayers. They'll

4550
03:35:10,800 --> 03:35:13,040
understand if we explain if we explain

4551
03:35:13,040 --> 03:35:16,960
the details to them correctly.

4552
03:35:16,960 --> 03:35:19,600
And what I see

4553
03:35:19,600 --> 03:35:22,080
to me it seems to be a relatively

4554
03:35:22,080 --> 03:35:25,040
straight cut

4555
03:35:25,040 --> 03:35:26,960
decision.

4556
03:35:26,960 --> 03:35:28,720
The efficiencies are there if our

4557
03:35:28,720 --> 03:35:30,800
utility operators have the vehicles in

4558
03:35:30,800 --> 03:35:34,000
their own in in their own

4559
03:35:34,000 --> 03:35:36,319
costwise,

4560
03:35:36,319 --> 03:35:38,399
timewise,

4561
03:35:38,399 --> 03:35:41,439
response time for our rate payers so

4562
03:35:41,439 --> 03:35:43,040
that their critical infrastructure

4563
03:35:43,040 --> 03:35:47,750
works.

4564
03:35:47,760 --> 03:35:51,190
Councelor Wto,

4565
03:35:51,200 --> 03:35:55,439
» I would agree with councelor Penner. Um,

4566
03:35:55,439 --> 03:35:58,160
there was a statement made that only 50%

4567
03:35:58,160 --> 03:36:02,319
of the pled municipalities got back to

4568
03:36:02,319 --> 03:36:04,880
us. I would challenge that

4569
03:36:04,880 --> 03:36:07,520
municipalities around us have a thousand

4570
03:36:07,520 --> 03:36:10,319
kilometers of water line in the ground

4571
03:36:10,319 --> 03:36:12,479
and it such an integral system is what

4572
03:36:12,479 --> 03:36:14,800
we have at Nihill County here. That's

4573
03:36:14,800 --> 03:36:17,120
not to say that

4574
03:36:17,120 --> 03:36:19,040
it's important that everyone has the

4575
03:36:19,040 --> 03:36:22,000
vehicle to start work from home. But

4576
03:36:22,000 --> 03:36:24,239
that being said, there is a lot of water

4577
03:36:24,239 --> 03:36:27,040
line which was never here up until about

4578
03:36:27,040 --> 03:36:29,600
15 years ago. That's when the water line

4579
03:36:29,600 --> 03:36:32,160
started to come in. or no, it's actually

4580
03:36:32,160 --> 03:36:33,840
more than that because that's when the

4581
03:36:33,840 --> 03:36:36,080
last water line was built. So, I'm

4582
03:36:36,080 --> 03:36:38,479
thinking probably closer to 20 years.

4583
03:36:38,479 --> 03:36:44,080
Um, we've we've got a real hub of water

4584
03:36:44,080 --> 03:36:47,200
systems in the county. Um, I think it

4585
03:36:47,200 --> 03:36:50,720
would be very inefficient to force the

4586
03:36:50,720 --> 03:36:53,200
operators to Well, I'm not going to go

4587
03:36:53,200 --> 03:36:54,640
there again because I've already stated

4588
03:36:54,640 --> 03:36:57,600
that, but we do have a situation in

4589
03:36:57,600 --> 03:36:59,040
Nehill County that a lot of

4590
03:36:59,040 --> 03:37:04,710
municipalities around us do not have.

4591
03:37:04,720 --> 03:37:06,080
» Council cutting.

4592
03:37:06,080 --> 03:37:08,469
>> So, um, just to go back to that, uh,

4593
03:37:08,469 --> 03:37:08,479
» So, um, just to go back to that, uh,

4594
03:37:08,479 --> 03:37:09,760
that information you received, Miss

4595
03:37:09,760 --> 03:37:12,160
Cochran, the 54 call out. So, was that

4596
03:37:12,160 --> 03:37:14,080
strictly utilities or did that include

4597
03:37:14,080 --> 03:37:15,840
transportation call outs?

4598
03:37:15,840 --> 03:37:17,750
>> Thank you for that. That was just

4599
03:37:17,750 --> 03:37:17,760
» Thank you for that. That was just

4600
03:37:17,760 --> 03:37:20,479
utility call outs and it was tracked

4601
03:37:20,479 --> 03:37:21,760
from the beginning of December. So,

4602
03:37:21,760 --> 03:37:23,279
there's probably a couple more to add on

4603
03:37:23,279 --> 03:37:25,040
to there, but yes, it's just for utility

4604
03:37:25,040 --> 03:37:25,680
call outs.

4605
03:37:25,680 --> 03:37:27,429
>> Okay. No, and that that's really helpful

4606
03:37:27,429 --> 03:37:27,439
» Okay. No, and that that's really helpful

4607
03:37:27,439 --> 03:37:31,040
information. Um, I personally um I can

4608
03:37:31,040 --> 03:37:32,800
look at the utilities and it it makes

4609
03:37:32,800 --> 03:37:35,120
good business sense to me. Um, like you

4610
03:37:35,120 --> 03:37:36,880
said, if if it's all three of them and

4611
03:37:36,880 --> 03:37:39,279
they're all on call, yeah, that would

4612
03:37:39,279 --> 03:37:40,720
make sense. But when you when you

4613
03:37:40,720 --> 03:37:42,160
explain that kind of their vehicles,

4614
03:37:42,160 --> 03:37:44,000
they're using them as their office per

4615
03:37:44,000 --> 03:37:46,640
se. Um, and when you look at the time

4616
03:37:46,640 --> 03:37:47,840
that it's going to take for them to come

4617
03:37:47,840 --> 03:37:50,960
here, that totally makes sense to me.

4618
03:37:50,960 --> 03:37:52,560
The transportation one, I guess I'm

4619
03:37:52,560 --> 03:37:54,800
struggling a little bit. Um, I know we

4620
03:37:54,800 --> 03:37:56,479
have folks that are on call, greater

4621
03:37:56,479 --> 03:37:58,960
operators, snowplow, truck drivers,

4622
03:37:58,960 --> 03:38:00,160
they're not taking the grater and

4623
03:38:00,160 --> 03:38:01,200
parking it in front of their house

4624
03:38:01,200 --> 03:38:03,520
wherever they live. They have to come to

4625
03:38:03,520 --> 03:38:06,239
the county obviously to get that. So,

4626
03:38:06,239 --> 03:38:07,920
um, that's the one I'm struggling with a

4627
03:38:07,920 --> 03:38:09,520
little bit. At the end of the day, we

4628
03:38:09,520 --> 03:38:10,960
all decide where we live and we all

4629
03:38:10,960 --> 03:38:13,279
decide where we work. So, I used to work

4630
03:38:13,279 --> 03:38:16,160
for the government in Ols. Um, I had to

4631
03:38:16,160 --> 03:38:18,319
drive from my house west of Three Hills

4632
03:38:18,319 --> 03:38:20,560
to Ols. That was just what I had to do.

4633
03:38:20,560 --> 03:38:23,120
Um, I didn't get provided a vehicle. Um,

4634
03:38:23,120 --> 03:38:24,960
was on my own time and that was just the

4635
03:38:24,960 --> 03:38:27,200
choice that I had to make. So, I think

4636
03:38:27,200 --> 03:38:29,840
um I want to see us have this policy and

4637
03:38:29,840 --> 03:38:31,359
I do appreciate this policy coming back.

4638
03:38:31,359 --> 03:38:33,600
I really, really do. Um, I was asked for

4639
03:38:33,600 --> 03:38:35,760
accountability with vehicle use multiple

4640
03:38:35,760 --> 03:38:37,439
times over the last four years. So, I

4641
03:38:37,439 --> 03:38:40,560
really appreciate this. Um, it makes

4642
03:38:40,560 --> 03:38:41,920
total sense to me to include the

4643
03:38:41,920 --> 03:38:43,760
utilities. I think I just I I need a

4644
03:38:43,760 --> 03:38:44,800
little bit more information on the

4645
03:38:44,800 --> 03:38:47,760
transportation side.

4646
03:38:47,760 --> 03:38:49,990
>> Uh, Council Olsson.

4647
03:38:49,990 --> 03:38:50,000
» Uh, Council Olsson.

4648
03:38:50,000 --> 03:38:52,790
>> Yeah, I love the discussion. Love all

4649
03:38:52,790 --> 03:38:52,800
» Yeah, I love the discussion. Love all

4650
03:38:52,800 --> 03:38:54,720
everybody participating in it. And, uh,

4651
03:38:54,720 --> 03:38:58,720
it's it's helped me, yeah, to

4652
03:38:58,720 --> 03:39:01,120
look at this the same way as as

4653
03:39:01,120 --> 03:39:03,200
Councelor Cunningham. And I'm I'm

4654
03:39:03,200 --> 03:39:05,359
leaning towards just the the utility

4655
03:39:05,359 --> 03:39:08,399
operators and and not the transportation

4656
03:39:08,399 --> 03:39:10,560
uh or infrastructure people at this

4657
03:39:10,560 --> 03:39:13,040
moment as well.

4658
03:39:13,040 --> 03:39:16,469
>> Council uh excuse me, Councelor Hopkins.

4659
03:39:16,469 --> 03:39:16,479
» Council uh excuse me, Councelor Hopkins.

4660
03:39:16,479 --> 03:39:21,760
Uh, the other question I have is

4661
03:39:21,760 --> 03:39:24,640
I've kind of read the bylaw or the

4662
03:39:24,640 --> 03:39:27,600
policy um a couple times and I'm

4663
03:39:27,600 --> 03:39:31,359
struggling to see

4664
03:39:31,359 --> 03:39:35,840
if there's an allowance in there for

4665
03:39:35,840 --> 03:39:39,680
um if an employee has to say travel to

4666
03:39:39,680 --> 03:39:42,880
Edmonton for a course, do they take a

4667
03:39:42,880 --> 03:39:45,040
personal vehicle? Do they take a company

4668
03:39:45,040 --> 03:39:47,200
vehicle? what's what's kind of what's

4669
03:39:47,200 --> 03:39:49,920
been done in the past and what's

4670
03:39:49,920 --> 03:39:53,120
I don't see a definite

4671
03:39:53,120 --> 03:39:55,359
answer in here that doesn't jump out at

4672
03:39:55,359 --> 03:39:55,760
me.

4673
03:39:55,760 --> 03:39:58,710
>> Yes. So, that would be um outside of the

4674
03:39:58,710 --> 03:39:58,720
» Yes. So, that would be um outside of the

4675
03:39:58,720 --> 03:39:59,920
policy because it's not personal

4676
03:39:59,920 --> 03:40:01,680
take-home use. So, when we're going to

4677
03:40:01,680 --> 03:40:03,520
conferences, employees drive to the

4678
03:40:03,520 --> 03:40:05,279
building, they pick up a vehicle, they

4679
03:40:05,279 --> 03:40:06,560
leave their vehicle here, and they drive

4680
03:40:06,560 --> 03:40:08,960
to the conference. We try where possible

4681
03:40:08,960 --> 03:40:10,720
to take county vehicles to conferences

4682
03:40:10,720 --> 03:40:13,680
to avoid mileage on personal vehicles.

4683
03:40:13,680 --> 03:40:15,120
in addition to the fact that employees

4684
03:40:15,120 --> 03:40:16,479
need special insurance in order to be

4685
03:40:16,479 --> 03:40:18,399
able to drive their vehicle for work.

4686
03:40:18,399 --> 03:40:20,880
So, it's on occasion the CIO would

4687
03:40:20,880 --> 03:40:22,479
approve you can take it home and go from

4688
03:40:22,479 --> 03:40:24,880
there. So, for instance, if you if you

4689
03:40:24,880 --> 03:40:26,160
if you're going somewhere where it

4690
03:40:26,160 --> 03:40:27,920
doesn't make sense to drive here first,

4691
03:40:27,920 --> 03:40:30,000
an hour and a half and then drive out,

4692
03:40:30,000 --> 03:40:31,920
then that would be an exception, but

4693
03:40:31,920 --> 03:40:34,000
those aren't the rule. So, typically

4694
03:40:34,000 --> 03:40:35,200
people will drive here. That's why

4695
03:40:35,200 --> 03:40:36,720
you'll see vehicles parked overnight.

4696
03:40:36,720 --> 03:40:38,080
It's because people have taken a vehicle

4697
03:40:38,080 --> 03:40:39,520
and gone to a conference,

4698
03:40:39,520 --> 03:40:43,750
>> right? Okay. And another part of that

4699
03:40:43,750 --> 03:40:43,760
» right? Okay. And another part of that

4700
03:40:43,760 --> 03:40:45,920
is, for example, if one of our peace

4701
03:40:45,920 --> 03:40:49,760
officers was um traveling

4702
03:40:49,760 --> 03:40:52,319
north, do they get to start with that

4703
03:40:52,319 --> 03:40:53,840
vehicle

4704
03:40:53,840 --> 03:40:55,439
since they already live a you know,

4705
03:40:55,439 --> 03:40:58,560
maybe an hour and a half north?

4706
03:40:58,560 --> 03:41:00,479
What? There's no benefit for them to

4707
03:41:00,479 --> 03:41:02,960
come here and then go. So that would be

4708
03:41:02,960 --> 03:41:04,880
considered a special exception.

4709
03:41:04,880 --> 03:41:06,309
>> Yeah. Through the reef to olive council.

4710
03:41:06,309 --> 03:41:06,319
» Yeah. Through the reef to olive council.

4711
03:41:06,319 --> 03:41:07,600
So, for instance, I made a special

4712
03:41:07,600 --> 03:41:09,200
exception for peace officers who take

4713
03:41:09,200 --> 03:41:10,800
their truck their vehicles home after

4714
03:41:10,800 --> 03:41:12,479
work because they worked an event until

4715
03:41:12,479 --> 03:41:14,399
10 p.m. It didn't make sense for them to

4716
03:41:14,399 --> 03:41:15,920
drive back to the office, drop off the

4717
03:41:15,920 --> 03:41:17,600
vehicle, pick up theirs. Next day, they

4718
03:41:17,600 --> 03:41:19,600
drop brought the vehicles back in. Peace

4719
03:41:19,600 --> 03:41:21,120
officers do not start from their home.

4720
03:41:21,120 --> 03:41:22,479
They come to the office, they pick up

4721
03:41:22,479 --> 03:41:24,160
their vehicle. Yeah. It's only for

4722
03:41:24,160 --> 03:41:26,000
special exceptions. Say they're going to

4723
03:41:26,000 --> 03:41:28,080
be late and why would I want them to get

4724
03:41:28,080 --> 03:41:29,920
home at 1 in the morning, you know? So,

4725
03:41:29,920 --> 03:41:31,600
it's about a com being flexible, give

4726
03:41:31,600 --> 03:41:32,960
and take, both with the employee and

4727
03:41:32,960 --> 03:41:33,920
with the employer.

4728
03:41:33,920 --> 03:41:36,790
>> Perfect. Thank you. Any

4729
03:41:36,790 --> 03:41:36,800
» Perfect. Thank you. Any

4730
03:41:36,800 --> 03:41:38,319
other questions?

4731
03:41:38,319 --> 03:41:43,110
>> Well, we've discussed it.

4732
03:41:43,120 --> 03:41:46,160
» Any more discussion? Any motion?

4733
03:41:46,160 --> 03:41:49,120
Councelor Hoppins.

4734
03:41:49,120 --> 03:41:51,760
Uh,

4735
03:41:51,760 --> 03:41:53,760
so I guess

4736
03:41:53,760 --> 03:41:57,120
I would approve the motion.

4737
03:41:57,120 --> 03:42:01,510
Uh,

4738
03:42:01,520 --> 03:42:03,680
» so you can see

4739
03:42:03,680 --> 03:42:07,269
>> Yeah. to rem basically the utilities

4740
03:42:07,269 --> 03:42:07,279
» Yeah. to rem basically the utilities

4741
03:42:07,279 --> 03:42:09,520
operators and foremen

4742
03:42:09,520 --> 03:42:13,040
to take vehicles home but not and I know

4743
03:42:13,040 --> 03:42:16,000
I can't make a negative motion but um if

4744
03:42:16,000 --> 03:42:22,870
you remove the transportation in the

4745
03:42:22,880 --> 03:42:23,920
» option

4746
03:42:23,920 --> 03:42:28,870
>> yeah recommend option three please

4747
03:42:28,870 --> 03:42:28,880
» yeah recommend option three please

4748
03:42:28,880 --> 03:42:45,990
Excuse

4749
03:42:46,000 --> 03:42:48,399
me. Was that the one you were you also

4750
03:42:48,399 --> 03:42:51,439
recommended a utilities uh one be taken

4751
03:42:51,439 --> 03:42:53,040
away or removed?

4752
03:42:53,040 --> 03:42:54,229
>> Yeah. Through the reef to all of

4753
03:42:54,229 --> 03:42:54,239
» Yeah. Through the reef to all of

4754
03:42:54,239 --> 03:42:56,640
council. the utility services manager

4755
03:42:56,640 --> 03:42:58,479
that the truck will be removed and it is

4756
03:42:58,479 --> 03:43:01,120
being written here in motion number

4757
03:43:01,120 --> 03:43:03,359
three.

4758
03:43:03,359 --> 03:43:04,950
>> So you can see in motion number two

4759
03:43:04,950 --> 03:43:04,960
» So you can see in motion number two

4760
03:43:04,960 --> 03:43:06,560
that's the positions that will continue

4761
03:43:06,560 --> 03:43:08,880
to allow to take vehicles home. Motion

4762
03:43:08,880 --> 03:43:13,910
three is the one where we remove

4763
03:43:13,920 --> 03:43:17,199
» is that okay with with that being said

4764
03:43:17,199 --> 03:43:22,239
that's at the discretion of council

4765
03:43:22,239 --> 03:43:23,830
>> through the reef to all of council. Yes.

4766
03:43:23,830 --> 03:43:23,840
» through the reef to all of council. Yes.

4767
03:43:23,840 --> 03:43:25,680
So at any time council can come back and

4768
03:43:25,680 --> 03:43:27,760
remove vehicles. That is your policy and

4769
03:43:27,760 --> 03:43:29,359
you are in this motion approving

4770
03:43:29,359 --> 03:43:31,760
vehicles if you approve it for operators

4771
03:43:31,760 --> 03:43:33,760
and the foreman of utilities. Should at

4772
03:43:33,760 --> 03:43:35,840
any time council wish to revisit that a

4773
03:43:35,840 --> 03:43:37,439
new motion is all you need to do and

4774
03:43:37,439 --> 03:43:38,880
then whenever council meeting which

4775
03:43:38,880 --> 03:43:40,640
would remove those vehicles with the

4776
03:43:40,640 --> 03:43:42,399
policy as written, council retains the

4777
03:43:42,399 --> 03:43:44,319
authority for all personal take-home

4778
03:43:44,319 --> 03:43:46,080
vehicle use. Through that motion, you're

4779
03:43:46,080 --> 03:43:53,830
allowing two positions.

4780
03:43:53,840 --> 03:43:55,920
No, no, no, no. Like, you got to

4781
03:43:55,920 --> 03:43:57,840
remember, we're just happy to see a

4782
03:43:57,840 --> 03:43:59,520
policy even though it's long- winded,

4783
03:43:59,520 --> 03:44:00,319
but

4784
03:44:00,319 --> 03:44:02,309
>> I mean,

4785
03:44:02,309 --> 03:44:02,319
» I mean,

4786
03:44:02,319 --> 03:44:04,319
this is a start. At least at least this

4787
03:44:04,319 --> 03:44:05,520
is a start. We know what the trouble

4788
03:44:05,520 --> 03:44:08,560
we've been having. So, everybody okay

4789
03:44:08,560 --> 03:44:11,439
with that or everybody understand the

4790
03:44:11,439 --> 03:44:14,720
the motions? Are we uh council cutting?

4791
03:44:14,720 --> 03:44:16,309
>> Sorry, I should ask this earlier. I I'm

4792
03:44:16,309 --> 03:44:16,319
» Sorry, I should ask this earlier. I I'm

4793
03:44:16,319 --> 03:44:18,000
I'm clear on the transportation

4794
03:44:18,000 --> 03:44:20,640
supervisors, but could you just expand a

4795
03:44:20,640 --> 03:44:21,840
little bit on the infrastructure

4796
03:44:21,840 --> 03:44:24,640
superintendent and what um what the

4797
03:44:24,640 --> 03:44:26,080
guidelines were for that position in the

4798
03:44:26,080 --> 03:44:27,680
vehicle or maybe the necessity out of

4799
03:44:27,680 --> 03:44:28,239
that?

4800
03:44:28,239 --> 03:44:29,830
>> Yes. Through the reef to all of council.

4801
03:44:29,830 --> 03:44:29,840
» Yes. Through the reef to all of council.

4802
03:44:29,840 --> 03:44:31,600
So the infrastructure superintendent

4803
03:44:31,600 --> 03:44:33,120
will start their job right when they get

4804
03:44:33,120 --> 03:44:34,880
on the roads just like everybody else.

4805
03:44:34,880 --> 03:44:37,040
So an option for us could be to park

4806
03:44:37,040 --> 03:44:39,199
trucks at different uh transfer sites so

4807
03:44:39,199 --> 03:44:41,600
that they can come to work closer and

4808
03:44:41,600 --> 03:44:43,040
get right on the road. So, that may be

4809
03:44:43,040 --> 03:44:44,399
something we look at as opposed to

4810
03:44:44,399 --> 03:44:46,000
operational take-home use, but the

4811
03:44:46,000 --> 03:44:48,160
infrastructure superintendent is on the

4812
03:44:48,160 --> 03:44:50,160
road. They're inspecting roads. They're

4813
03:44:50,160 --> 03:44:51,680
looking at the roads their supervisors

4814
03:44:51,680 --> 03:44:54,319
have demonstr identified for work. So

4815
03:44:54,319 --> 03:44:55,920
they're doing their tours or checking on

4816
03:44:55,920 --> 03:44:57,760
projects, but at the end of the day, if

4817
03:44:57,760 --> 03:44:59,760
that's not a position that um it

4818
03:44:59,760 --> 03:45:02,160
wouldn't be one that we'll die on, if

4819
03:45:02,160 --> 03:45:04,399
you will, um as as a as an

4820
03:45:04,399 --> 03:45:07,199
administration, so we we can have other

4821
03:45:07,199 --> 03:45:08,960
options such like I said as parking

4822
03:45:08,960 --> 03:45:11,920
vehicles at other sites so we can get to

4823
03:45:11,920 --> 03:45:14,640
them quicker. Um nobody likes to waste

4824
03:45:14,640 --> 03:45:15,840
time, right? We want to get to work

4825
03:45:15,840 --> 03:45:17,600
right away. So the sooner we can get on

4826
03:45:17,600 --> 03:45:19,120
the road to inspect the roads, the

4827
03:45:19,120 --> 03:45:21,120
better our roads are going to be. Um one

4828
03:45:21,120 --> 03:45:22,880
other comment was made about log books.

4829
03:45:22,880 --> 03:45:24,960
All of our operators and supervisors do

4830
03:45:24,960 --> 03:45:26,720
keep log books. So, our supervisors keep

4831
03:45:26,720 --> 03:45:28,479
log books on what they inspect and what

4832
03:45:28,479 --> 03:45:30,560
they assign their operators to and

4833
03:45:30,560 --> 03:45:32,239
that's our checks and balances for

4834
03:45:32,239 --> 03:45:37,910
council.

4835
03:45:37,920 --> 03:45:39,760
» Yeah, if you could.

4836
03:45:39,760 --> 03:45:43,269
>> Okay. Uh, I approve that uh count the

4837
03:45:43,269 --> 03:45:43,279
» Okay. Uh, I approve that uh count the

4838
03:45:43,279 --> 03:45:45,439
council approve the revised county

4839
03:45:45,439 --> 03:45:47,760
vehicle use policy, including council

4840
03:45:47,760 --> 03:45:50,399
approval requirements for all take-home

4841
03:45:50,399 --> 03:45:53,199
vehicle arrangements. And number two,

4842
03:45:53,199 --> 03:45:55,279
approve continued take-home vehicle use

4843
03:45:55,279 --> 03:45:58,160
for the following operational positions.

4844
03:45:58,160 --> 03:46:01,920
Utilities operators, utility foremen.

4845
03:46:01,920 --> 03:46:05,439
Number three, direct that take-home

4846
03:46:05,439 --> 03:46:07,680
vehicle privileges for utilities,

4847
03:46:07,680 --> 03:46:10,160
services, manager, transportation,

4848
03:46:10,160 --> 03:46:11,680
supervisors, infrastructure,

4849
03:46:11,680 --> 03:46:22,469
superintendent position be discontinued.

4850
03:46:22,479 --> 03:46:24,239
» Any more discussion on that? I got one

4851
03:46:24,239 --> 03:46:28,560
more question. Uh, councelor Woodstock,

4852
03:46:28,560 --> 03:46:31,349
>> I don't know if we were actually looking

4853
03:46:31,349 --> 03:46:31,359
» I don't know if we were actually looking

4854
03:46:31,359 --> 03:46:33,760
at the infrastructure being

4855
03:46:33,760 --> 03:46:37,120
discontinued, just relocated. Is that

4856
03:46:37,120 --> 03:46:40,160
the direction that we were headed?

4857
03:46:40,160 --> 03:46:43,429
>> Leaving from a transfer site.

4858
03:46:43,429 --> 03:46:43,439
» Leaving from a transfer site.

4859
03:46:43,439 --> 03:46:46,870
>> Uh, for myself at this point, I would

4860
03:46:46,870 --> 03:46:46,880
» Uh, for myself at this point, I would

4861
03:46:46,880 --> 03:46:49,279
suggest discontinued. Um,

4862
03:46:49,279 --> 03:46:49,910
>> okay.

4863
03:46:49,910 --> 03:46:49,920
» okay.

4864
03:46:49,920 --> 03:46:50,389
>> Review.

4865
03:46:50,389 --> 03:46:50,399
» Review.

4866
03:46:50,399 --> 03:46:54,389
>> Your motion. That's I just verifying

4867
03:46:54,389 --> 03:46:54,399
» Your motion. That's I just verifying

4868
03:46:54,399 --> 03:46:54,880
the

4869
03:46:54,880 --> 03:46:56,469
>> Yep. through the through the Reef Hall

4870
03:46:56,469 --> 03:46:56,479
» Yep. through the through the Reef Hall

4871
03:46:56,479 --> 03:46:59,600
of Council. Um, that's our internal

4872
03:46:59,600 --> 03:47:01,199
operations. So, if we decided to park

4873
03:47:01,199 --> 03:47:02,720
trucks at a different site, that's our

4874
03:47:02,720 --> 03:47:04,640
that's internal operations. That's not

4875
03:47:04,640 --> 03:47:06,399
take-home use. That's just proper

4876
03:47:06,399 --> 03:47:09,199
operations, proper planning. Yeah.

4877
03:47:09,199 --> 03:47:12,469
>> Yeah.

4878
03:47:12,479 --> 03:47:15,040
» Uh, councelor Olsson.

4879
03:47:15,040 --> 03:47:16,800
Um,

4880
03:47:16,800 --> 03:47:19,920
do we leave ourselves the option for

4881
03:47:19,920 --> 03:47:23,520
some kind of an emergency for

4882
03:47:23,520 --> 03:47:25,520
infrastructure or somebody to use

4883
03:47:25,520 --> 03:47:29,600
something on a oneoff or is this is this

4884
03:47:29,600 --> 03:47:30,150
>> what's that?

4885
03:47:30,150 --> 03:47:30,160
» what's that?

4886
03:47:30,160 --> 03:47:33,110
>> I would assume sorry to interrupt assume

4887
03:47:33,110 --> 03:47:33,120
» I would assume sorry to interrupt assume

4888
03:47:33,120 --> 03:47:36,319
that would be at your discretion.

4889
03:47:36,319 --> 03:47:38,389
>> I just want to leave that still an

4890
03:47:38,389 --> 03:47:38,399
» I just want to leave that still an

4891
03:47:38,399 --> 03:47:41,040
option. Yes, I that is still an option

4892
03:47:41,040 --> 03:47:42,399
within the policy and that's just

4893
03:47:42,399 --> 03:47:44,800
discretional use based on operations,

4894
03:47:44,800 --> 03:47:46,640
but it's not a permanent use. It's not a

4895
03:47:46,640 --> 03:47:51,910
taxable benefit at that point.

4896
03:47:51,920 --> 03:47:54,960
» Any other discussion?

4897
03:47:54,960 --> 03:47:56,469
>> Councelor Penner,

4898
03:47:56,469 --> 03:47:56,479
» Councelor Penner,

4899
03:47:56,479 --> 03:47:58,870
>> initially councelor Hoppins talked about

4900
03:47:58,870 --> 03:47:58,880
» initially councelor Hoppins talked about

4901
03:47:58,880 --> 03:48:01,439
a trial period before we got to the

4902
03:48:01,439 --> 03:48:04,560
point of the motion. Is is that still

4903
03:48:04,560 --> 03:48:08,399
part of what you wanted to see in this?

4904
03:48:08,399 --> 03:48:10,160
I think

4905
03:48:10,160 --> 03:48:13,830
>> if it's I think what we can do is uh a

4906
03:48:13,830 --> 03:48:13,840
» if it's I think what we can do is uh a

4907
03:48:13,840 --> 03:48:16,000
year from now put it back on our agenda

4908
03:48:16,000 --> 03:48:18,160
for a review process. I don't think it

4909
03:48:18,160 --> 03:48:20,160
needs to be in the motion

4910
03:48:20,160 --> 03:48:22,950
>> as as Yeah, good good call. But as as

4911
03:48:22,950 --> 03:48:22,960
» as as Yeah, good good call. But as as

4912
03:48:22,960 --> 03:48:25,760
CEO Cochran stated, this is our policy.

4913
03:48:25,760 --> 03:48:27,760
We can bring it back at any time that we

4914
03:48:27,760 --> 03:48:30,960
feel. Yeah, for sure.

4915
03:48:30,960 --> 03:48:32,479
Any more discussion on the motion?

4916
03:48:32,479 --> 03:48:35,199
Everybody understand the motion?

4917
03:48:35,199 --> 03:48:37,600
All in favor?

4918
03:48:37,600 --> 03:48:47,030
carried you nicely.

4919
03:48:47,040 --> 03:48:51,040
Okay, lunch at 11:49.

4920
03:48:51,040 --> 03:48:52,720
Be back in about an hour and a half,

4921
03:48:52,720 --> 04:59:14,868
three hours.

4922
04:59:14,878 --> 04:59:18,878
Good afternoon. Welcome. Um

4923
04:59:18,878 --> 04:59:21,920
we'll go on to uh the agenda 3.1

4924
04:59:21,920 --> 04:59:24,160
delegation friends of Horseshoe Canyon.

4925
04:59:24,160 --> 04:59:26,560
Uh before we get going uh we'll have a

4926
04:59:26,560 --> 04:59:28,560
little introduction.

4927
04:59:28,560 --> 04:59:30,480
Uh we'll start over here with Council

4928
04:59:30,480 --> 04:59:32,160
Woodstock.

4929
04:59:32,160 --> 04:59:34,560
Well, welcome gentlemen, lady. Uh, my

4930
04:59:34,560 --> 04:59:36,958
name is Jerry Witstock. I am counselor

4931
04:59:36,958 --> 04:59:38,878
for division three, which happens to be

4932
04:59:38,878 --> 04:59:43,200
the Acme Lynon area. Welcome.

4933
04:59:43,200 --> 04:59:45,110
>> Merl Anderson. I happen to be in the

4934
04:59:45,110 --> 04:59:45,120
» Merl Anderson. I happen to be in the

4935
04:59:45,120 --> 04:59:47,920
division one area.

4936
04:59:47,920 --> 04:59:49,110
>> Good afternoon. Lori Michelle

4937
04:59:49,110 --> 04:59:49,120
» Good afternoon. Lori Michelle

4938
04:59:49,120 --> 04:59:50,878
Cunningham, Division 5. And thank you so

4939
04:59:50,878 --> 04:59:52,400
much for taking the time to come. Love

4940
04:59:52,400 --> 04:59:54,160
it when we hear from our people. Thanks

4941
04:59:54,160 --> 04:59:55,760
for coming.

4942
04:59:55,760 --> 04:59:58,788
>> Uh, Lonnie Makut, division 7.

4943
04:59:58,788 --> 04:59:58,798
» Uh, Lonnie Makut, division 7.

4944
04:59:58,798 --> 05:00:00,958
Richard Hoppins, division six up in the

4945
05:00:00,958 --> 05:00:03,840
northwest corner.

4946
05:00:03,840 --> 05:00:07,750
>> Uh L Olsen, division 4.

4947
05:00:07,750 --> 05:00:07,760
» Uh L Olsen, division 4.

4948
05:00:07,760 --> 05:00:09,990
>> Good afternoon. Darcy Penner, division

4949
05:00:09,990 --> 05:00:10,000
» Good afternoon. Darcy Penner, division

4950
05:00:10,000 --> 05:00:13,670
two.

4951
05:00:13,680 --> 05:00:15,040
» Good afternoon. Theresa Cochran,

4952
05:00:15,040 --> 05:00:21,750
interimm CEO.

4953
05:00:21,760 --> 05:00:23,920
» Do I need this thing or is is it a bit

4954
05:00:23,920 --> 05:00:24,638
too loud?

4955
05:00:24,638 --> 05:00:25,110
>> No,

4956
05:00:25,110 --> 05:00:25,120
» No,

4957
05:00:25,120 --> 05:00:26,550
>> it's all good. All right. Well, thanks

4958
05:00:26,550 --> 05:00:26,560
» it's all good. All right. Well, thanks

4959
05:00:26,560 --> 05:00:28,240
for having me here. My name is Joe

4960
05:00:28,240 --> 05:00:30,958
Vickers. Uh behind me is Devon Daiser,

4961
05:00:30,958 --> 05:00:32,878
Beth Anne Cheney, and we're here to talk

4962
05:00:32,878 --> 05:00:35,040
about our new community stewardship

4963
05:00:35,040 --> 05:00:38,400
group that uh we're forming. So, uh

4964
05:00:38,400 --> 05:00:40,958
thank you for allowing us to be here and

4965
05:00:40,958 --> 05:00:44,080
uh introduce ourselves. The reason is to

4966
05:00:44,080 --> 05:00:46,560
let you know that we are forming

4967
05:00:46,560 --> 05:00:49,280
something. um explain why we're doing it

4968
05:00:49,280 --> 05:00:52,400
and really just to open up a dialogue uh

4969
05:00:52,400 --> 05:00:55,840
to see how how uh we can listen and

4970
05:00:55,840 --> 05:01:00,470
learn and and uh work together.

4971
05:01:00,480 --> 05:01:02,000
So, a little bit more about ourselves,

4972
05:01:02,000 --> 05:01:04,400
maybe I'll go into more depth about who

4973
05:01:04,400 --> 05:01:08,798
I am. I I uh from that first slide uh is

4974
05:01:08,798 --> 05:01:10,958
my family farm. I'm fourth generation

4975
05:01:10,958 --> 05:01:12,798
farmer. My great-grandfather bought the

4976
05:01:12,798 --> 05:01:16,798
farm and uh now I'm farming. Uh my dad

4977
05:01:16,798 --> 05:01:18,878
used to be the boss and I was the

4978
05:01:18,878 --> 05:01:22,000
helper. Now that role has reversed and

4979
05:01:22,000 --> 05:01:24,878
uh I felt incredibly lucky to live right

4980
05:01:24,878 --> 05:01:27,440
next to the Horseshoe Canyon.

4981
05:01:27,440 --> 05:01:30,240
It was right in the backyard. It was uh

4982
05:01:30,240 --> 05:01:33,280
my playground and really helped develop

4983
05:01:33,280 --> 05:01:36,958
my imagination and and uh my interest in

4984
05:01:36,958 --> 05:01:38,638
exploration that I've carried with me

4985
05:01:38,638 --> 05:01:41,920
for all of my life. when I'm not working

4986
05:01:41,920 --> 05:01:44,798
on a farm on the farm. Uh I'm also a

4987
05:01:44,798 --> 05:01:46,560
singer songwriter. So I've done a lot of

4988
05:01:46,560 --> 05:01:49,840
traveling performing across Canada in

4989
05:01:49,840 --> 05:01:52,878
the States and uh in Europe and it

4990
05:01:52,878 --> 05:01:55,520
always feels nice to come home and I

4991
05:01:55,520 --> 05:01:57,520
just feel grounded right here in in

4992
05:01:57,520 --> 05:02:01,920
Nehill. Um more about uh the group

4993
05:02:01,920 --> 05:02:04,560
itself, we are volunteer-led.

4994
05:02:04,560 --> 05:02:07,520
Um, we have a a number of community

4995
05:02:07,520 --> 05:02:09,920
members that are are interested in

4996
05:02:09,920 --> 05:02:12,718
supporting this initiative. We're very

4997
05:02:12,718 --> 05:02:16,480
much in the infancy stage. Uh, we're

4998
05:02:16,480 --> 05:02:18,958
working on getting our uh paperwork in

4999
05:02:18,958 --> 05:02:22,240
line to become a nonforprofit. Uh, but

5000
05:02:22,240 --> 05:02:24,638
really we're just enthusiastic

5001
05:02:24,638 --> 05:02:29,440
uh residents, land owners, and uh uh

5002
05:02:29,440 --> 05:02:31,280
folks who live nearby the Horseshoe

5003
05:02:31,280 --> 05:02:34,160
Canyon that use it frequently. and um

5004
05:02:34,160 --> 05:02:36,240
see this as an opportunity to bring

5005
05:02:36,240 --> 05:02:38,080
community together. So there's no

5006
05:02:38,080 --> 05:02:40,958
political uh affiliation on that on that

5007
05:02:40,958 --> 05:02:44,550
behalf.

5008
05:02:44,560 --> 05:02:46,400
We have the shared interest in seeing

5009
05:02:46,400 --> 05:02:49,120
the canyon cared for in a meaningful and

5010
05:02:49,120 --> 05:02:52,320
and responsible way. and and uh my

5011
05:02:52,320 --> 05:02:54,160
myself, I see this group as an

5012
05:02:54,160 --> 05:02:56,560
opportunity to have members of the

5013
05:02:56,560 --> 05:02:58,718
community come together cuz I remember

5014
05:02:58,718 --> 05:03:01,760
when I was a kid and we'd have other

5015
05:03:01,760 --> 05:03:03,200
farm neighbors that would get together

5016
05:03:03,200 --> 05:03:06,480
and we do Christmas recital or harvest

5017
05:03:06,480 --> 05:03:09,280
parties and we're kind of losing that in

5018
05:03:09,280 --> 05:03:12,240
in around our area. So I see this as an

5019
05:03:12,240 --> 05:03:14,958
opportunity to at least have young

5020
05:03:14,958 --> 05:03:18,320
families like my own and Devons and

5021
05:03:18,320 --> 05:03:20,480
Bethanne where we can get together and

5022
05:03:20,480 --> 05:03:23,280
and uh work together through the shared

5023
05:03:23,280 --> 05:03:27,190
interest.

5024
05:03:27,200 --> 05:03:29,680
We're very much valueled and uh our

5025
05:03:29,680 --> 05:03:33,360
vision is to ensure that the canyon is

5026
05:03:33,360 --> 05:03:36,560
uh continue to be used and and accessed

5027
05:03:36,560 --> 05:03:39,120
responsibly for present and for future

5028
05:03:39,120 --> 05:03:42,080
generations. uh stewardship is at least

5029
05:03:42,080 --> 05:03:45,360
number one um is the number one value

5030
05:03:45,360 --> 05:03:49,760
for me as a farmer. there is a need to

5031
05:03:49,760 --> 05:03:53,120
be ma maintaining land soil resources in

5032
05:03:53,120 --> 05:03:56,798
a meaningful sustainable way for for uh

5033
05:03:56,798 --> 05:03:59,840
long-term preservation and uh so I feel

5034
05:03:59,840 --> 05:04:02,320
like not only do I apply that to the

5035
05:04:02,320 --> 05:04:04,160
farming practice I see how that can

5036
05:04:04,160 --> 05:04:07,760
guide us as a as a group um being

5037
05:04:07,760 --> 05:04:10,240
respectful to the access and uh

5038
05:04:10,240 --> 05:04:12,240
responsible use is is right up there as

5039
05:04:12,240 --> 05:04:16,400
well as education I feel like uh the

5040
05:04:16,400 --> 05:04:18,160
more that we know and more we're aware

5041
05:04:18,160 --> 05:04:20,798
we can deepen our understanding of place

5042
05:04:20,798 --> 05:04:24,320
and enrich our experience uh in a

5043
05:04:24,320 --> 05:04:27,280
certain area too. Um collaboration we

5044
05:04:27,280 --> 05:04:29,680
all like to work with a variety of folks

5045
05:04:29,680 --> 05:04:32,320
and you know we believe that whenever

5046
05:04:32,320 --> 05:04:35,760
you can collaborate with council or

5047
05:04:35,760 --> 05:04:37,680
other community members we can come up

5048
05:04:37,680 --> 05:04:39,280
with some dream up some pretty cool

5049
05:04:39,280 --> 05:04:45,830
ideas.

5050
05:04:45,840 --> 05:04:48,480
So again, uh we're not a lobby group.

5051
05:04:48,480 --> 05:04:50,718
No, uh advocacy

5052
05:04:50,718 --> 05:04:56,400
uh driven sort of uh uh push behind us.

5053
05:04:56,400 --> 05:05:00,000
Um no developmental component, just a

5054
05:05:00,000 --> 05:05:02,878
number of community members that look at

5055
05:05:02,878 --> 05:05:06,718
this as a as an opportunity to uh uh

5056
05:05:06,718 --> 05:05:09,280
just

5057
05:05:09,280 --> 05:05:11,120
deepen our relationship with the canyon.

5058
05:05:11,120 --> 05:05:14,638
Like I was saying earlier,

5059
05:05:14,638 --> 05:05:17,120
how we see ourselves being helpful, uh,

5060
05:05:17,120 --> 05:05:19,360
volunteer stewardship and care,

5061
05:05:19,360 --> 05:05:22,958
providing education, uh, history on the

5062
05:05:22,958 --> 05:05:26,000
ecology as well as the paleontology, and

5063
05:05:26,000 --> 05:05:28,000
again bringing community together in a

5064
05:05:28,000 --> 05:05:31,520
constructive way. I uh, I know I I'm

5065
05:05:31,520 --> 05:05:33,120
very much inspired by what's happening

5066
05:05:33,120 --> 05:05:35,120
in Canonascis. They have a a non

5067
05:05:35,120 --> 05:05:36,798
for-profit group out there, Friends of

5068
05:05:36,798 --> 05:05:39,120
Canonascis, and they've got a number of

5069
05:05:39,120 --> 05:05:41,520
very cool trail stewardship

5070
05:05:41,520 --> 05:05:45,680
opportunities and and monthly um uh

5071
05:05:45,680 --> 05:05:48,000
email updates that talk about what's

5072
05:05:48,000 --> 05:05:49,840
happening and and they do minor events

5073
05:05:49,840 --> 05:05:53,510
as well.

5074
05:05:53,520 --> 05:05:58,080
So, um thank you for taking time and

5075
05:05:58,080 --> 05:06:00,718
hearing what we're doing and and what

5076
05:06:00,718 --> 05:06:02,958
we're hoping to accomplish. And really

5077
05:06:02,958 --> 05:06:05,600
at the end of the day, we uh we want to

5078
05:06:05,600 --> 05:06:07,440
don't have a really lot we don't really

5079
05:06:07,440 --> 05:06:11,680
have a lot on the the go uh as of yet,

5080
05:06:11,680 --> 05:06:13,520
but we're wanting to just keep the

5081
05:06:13,520 --> 05:06:16,160
conversation open and see how we can we

5082
05:06:16,160 --> 05:06:20,160
can help um and you know ask for for uh

5083
05:06:20,160 --> 05:06:24,788
for help too.

5084
05:06:24,798 --> 05:06:27,840
Um I guess it's also yeah like important

5085
05:06:27,840 --> 05:06:31,920
to recognize like we we realize that um

5086
05:06:31,920 --> 05:06:34,400
maintaining the Horseshoe Canyon is is a

5087
05:06:34,400 --> 05:06:38,480
very complex initiative and we respect

5088
05:06:38,480 --> 05:06:40,000
everything that you folks have have

5089
05:06:40,000 --> 05:06:43,120
done. uh the county um my family used to

5090
05:06:43,120 --> 05:06:46,000
own a portion of of that canyon and

5091
05:06:46,000 --> 05:06:49,120
we've seen it gone go from private to

5092
05:06:49,120 --> 05:06:53,760
now being public access and uh I know

5093
05:06:53,760 --> 05:06:55,760
when I talk with my parents we all

5094
05:06:55,760 --> 05:06:58,000
really appreciate everything that uh the

5095
05:06:58,000 --> 05:07:00,718
county has done and and we look at how

5096
05:07:00,718 --> 05:07:02,400
they brought in the trail and how it's

5097
05:07:02,400 --> 05:07:06,160
being used and and I'll be honest when I

5098
05:07:06,160 --> 05:07:08,160
was younger I was a bit cy cuz it was

5099
05:07:08,160 --> 05:07:10,000
like this was my little secret growing

5100
05:07:10,000 --> 05:07:12,400
going up on the edge of the horseshoe

5101
05:07:12,400 --> 05:07:15,440
canyon. But now every spring when I see

5102
05:07:15,440 --> 05:07:17,760
the parking lot full of people and the

5103
05:07:17,760 --> 05:07:19,040
families that are walking down that

5104
05:07:19,040 --> 05:07:21,840
trail when I'm driving down to the farm,

5105
05:07:21,840 --> 05:07:24,000
it brings me lots of joy because the

5106
05:07:24,000 --> 05:07:26,400
canyon is attracting people that are

5107
05:07:26,400 --> 05:07:28,320
engaging in an outdoor activity and

5108
05:07:28,320 --> 05:07:30,878
doing something positive. And I got to

5109
05:07:30,878 --> 05:07:32,798
say, for the most part, the people that

5110
05:07:32,798 --> 05:07:35,360
are using it are responsible because

5111
05:07:35,360 --> 05:07:38,718
they're they're nature enthusiasts. So,

5112
05:07:38,718 --> 05:07:42,638
um I I I I just uh yeah, I'll leave it

5113
05:07:42,638 --> 05:07:44,320
at that. I really appreciate your time

5114
05:07:44,320 --> 05:07:47,760
and for listening and and thanks for for

5115
05:07:47,760 --> 05:07:49,520
uh everything.

5116
05:07:49,520 --> 05:07:51,590
>> Thank you for your presentation. Uh

5117
05:07:51,590 --> 05:07:51,600
» Thank you for your presentation. Uh

5118
05:07:51,600 --> 05:07:53,840
council got any questions or they'd like

5119
05:07:53,840 --> 05:07:56,160
to discuss?

5120
05:07:56,160 --> 05:07:58,868
>> Uh councelor Woodstock.

5121
05:07:58,868 --> 05:07:58,878
» Uh councelor Woodstock.

5122
05:07:58,878 --> 05:08:01,510
>> Well, thank you very much Joe and uh

5123
05:08:01,510 --> 05:08:01,520
» Well, thank you very much Joe and uh

5124
05:08:01,520 --> 05:08:04,400
Devon and Devin and

5125
05:08:04,400 --> 05:08:05,910
>> Bethan.

5126
05:08:05,910 --> 05:08:05,920
» Bethan.

5127
05:08:05,920 --> 05:08:08,000
I knew I'd get anyway. Regardless, I

5128
05:08:08,000 --> 05:08:10,958
know you guys are Yeah, I know you guys

5129
05:08:10,958 --> 05:08:13,280
are in your infancy.

5130
05:08:13,280 --> 05:08:16,160
What What would you anticipate to see

5131
05:08:16,160 --> 05:08:19,440
there in the future? I I know that it's

5132
05:08:19,440 --> 05:08:22,638
a very hard question, but if you have

5133
05:08:22,638 --> 05:08:23,920
something that you would like to see,

5134
05:08:23,920 --> 05:08:26,320
I'm just wondering uh how you'd like to

5135
05:08:26,320 --> 05:08:27,120
see it developed.

5136
05:08:27,120 --> 05:08:29,430
>> Yeah, good question. Uh right now it's

5137
05:08:29,430 --> 05:08:29,440
» Yeah, good question. Uh right now it's

5138
05:08:29,440 --> 05:08:32,798
just baby steps. Uh the one thing that

5139
05:08:32,798 --> 05:08:35,760
we talked about that would be our first

5140
05:08:35,760 --> 05:08:38,400
action is in the springtime do a

5141
05:08:38,400 --> 05:08:41,040
community-led trash pickup where we can

5142
05:08:41,040 --> 05:08:44,080
go out, do a hike in the canyon,

5143
05:08:44,080 --> 05:08:47,040
surrounding area, uh bring our families

5144
05:08:47,040 --> 05:08:50,240
along, make it a fun community activity,

5145
05:08:50,240 --> 05:08:53,040
and just help maintain the beauty of the

5146
05:08:53,040 --> 05:08:55,440
region, especially before visitors come.

5147
05:08:55,440 --> 05:08:58,240
And as far as other grand plans, that's

5148
05:08:58,240 --> 05:09:02,320
really all it is. Just step one was

5149
05:09:02,320 --> 05:09:04,000
to actually follow through on this

5150
05:09:04,000 --> 05:09:06,798
conversation because, you know, we were

5151
05:09:06,798 --> 05:09:09,760
looking at what friends of Canon ask for

5152
05:09:09,760 --> 05:09:12,400
a while and oh yeah, something like this

5153
05:09:12,400 --> 05:09:15,120
could exist here in here in uh at at the

5154
05:09:15,120 --> 05:09:17,680
horseshoe and then you know uh finally

5155
05:09:17,680 --> 05:09:20,718
we decided to go ahead with that. That's

5156
05:09:20,718 --> 05:09:24,320
step step one. Step two was coming here

5157
05:09:24,320 --> 05:09:27,600
to uh present ourselves and step three

5158
05:09:27,600 --> 05:09:30,400
is just the one one uh one engagement

5159
05:09:30,400 --> 05:09:32,878
that we have planned for the springtime.

5160
05:09:32,878 --> 05:09:34,470
>> Okay. Thank you very much.

5161
05:09:34,470 --> 05:09:34,480
» Okay. Thank you very much.

5162
05:09:34,480 --> 05:09:36,948
>> Thanks, Jerry.

5163
05:09:36,948 --> 05:09:36,958
» Thanks, Jerry.

5164
05:09:36,958 --> 05:09:38,868
>> Uh Council Cunningham.

5165
05:09:38,868 --> 05:09:38,878
» Uh Council Cunningham.

5166
05:09:38,878 --> 05:09:40,230
>> So, I love what you folks are doing.

5167
05:09:40,230 --> 05:09:40,240
» So, I love what you folks are doing.

5168
05:09:40,240 --> 05:09:42,000
This is how things happen and nobody

5169
05:09:42,000 --> 05:09:43,520
does it better than rural Alberta. Group

5170
05:09:43,520 --> 05:09:45,040
of citizens get together and that's how

5171
05:09:45,040 --> 05:09:47,760
things happen. Um, I guess for me, you

5172
05:09:47,760 --> 05:09:48,878
know, I love what you're saying about

5173
05:09:48,878 --> 05:09:50,480
the trash pickup and like sounds like

5174
05:09:50,480 --> 05:09:51,840
you guys really want to be stewards of

5175
05:09:51,840 --> 05:09:55,040
the area. Um, last term we spent, I

5176
05:09:55,040 --> 05:09:57,360
think it was about $110,000

5177
05:09:57,360 --> 05:09:59,600
um to have some concepts brought to us.

5178
05:09:59,600 --> 05:10:01,200
And so there's three current concepts

5179
05:10:01,200 --> 05:10:04,320
that are sitting kind of on the docket.

5180
05:10:04,320 --> 05:10:05,760
I would really like to hear from you

5181
05:10:05,760 --> 05:10:08,400
folks like one of them was um a little

5182
05:10:08,400 --> 05:10:11,360
bit over 20,000 square foot pavilion. Is

5183
05:10:11,360 --> 05:10:13,360
that like something that you folks see

5184
05:10:13,360 --> 05:10:14,878
in the future? kind of further to what

5185
05:10:14,878 --> 05:10:16,240
councelor Woodstock said, is that is

5186
05:10:16,240 --> 05:10:18,160
that kind of a vision that you see or

5187
05:10:18,160 --> 05:10:19,920
because that's actually the one that was

5188
05:10:19,920 --> 05:10:23,680
um passed um last summer, I believe. So,

5189
05:10:23,680 --> 05:10:25,200
just curious from somebody that's down

5190
05:10:25,200 --> 05:10:26,638
there, what what your vision is for

5191
05:10:26,638 --> 05:10:26,958
that.

5192
05:10:26,958 --> 05:10:29,270
>> Yeah, good question. We haven't got that

5193
05:10:29,270 --> 05:10:29,280
» Yeah, good question. We haven't got that

5194
05:10:29,280 --> 05:10:33,120
far in conversation, so I can't really

5195
05:10:33,120 --> 05:10:35,200
speak to having a position on it, but

5196
05:10:35,200 --> 05:10:37,200
that is a question I'd love to bring

5197
05:10:37,200 --> 05:10:40,798
back to everybody at our next meeting.

5198
05:10:40,798 --> 05:10:42,798
And that that one for me is really hard

5199
05:10:42,798 --> 05:10:44,080
because that's where I was going with

5200
05:10:44,080 --> 05:10:45,600
that. I actually had a motion on the

5201
05:10:45,600 --> 05:10:47,680
table, I think it was in June of last

5202
05:10:47,680 --> 05:10:51,120
year, to ask our rate what they thought

5203
05:10:51,120 --> 05:10:52,400
the vision would be down there and

5204
05:10:52,400 --> 05:10:55,120
unfortunately um that didn't pass. So

5205
05:10:55,120 --> 05:10:56,958
that's where it's really hard for me to

5206
05:10:56,958 --> 05:10:59,120
know what what our people see as the

5207
05:10:59,120 --> 05:11:01,680
vision down there because um we did have

5208
05:11:01,680 --> 05:11:03,760
the I think actually Mr. Daiser, if I'm

5209
05:11:03,760 --> 05:11:05,360
correct, you were on the focus group, I

5210
05:11:05,360 --> 05:11:06,000
believe.

5211
05:11:06,000 --> 05:11:09,270
>> Um thank you. So yeah, I still there's

5212
05:11:09,270 --> 05:11:09,280
» Um thank you. So yeah, I still there's

5213
05:11:09,280 --> 05:11:10,878
some questions for me about what people

5214
05:11:10,878 --> 05:11:12,958
see. Like I hear some people say they'd

5215
05:11:12,958 --> 05:11:14,638
be happy to have, you know, maybe an

5216
05:11:14,638 --> 05:11:17,200
enhanced bathroom facility, but the the

5217
05:11:17,200 --> 05:11:19,440
one I think it was called a regional

5218
05:11:19,440 --> 05:11:21,200
destination would have been up to $24

5219
05:11:21,200 --> 05:11:23,680
million. And so that's for me, I just

5220
05:11:23,680 --> 05:11:25,520
really don't have a clear indication of

5221
05:11:25,520 --> 05:11:27,840
what the people of Nihill County see for

5222
05:11:27,840 --> 05:11:29,440
their vision there, whether it's a small

5223
05:11:29,440 --> 05:11:32,638
facility or this large massive pavilion.

5224
05:11:32,638 --> 05:11:33,600
So yeah,

5225
05:11:33,600 --> 05:11:36,948
>> great. I I feel like that's if if that's

5226
05:11:36,948 --> 05:11:36,958
» great. I I feel like that's if if that's

5227
05:11:36,958 --> 05:11:39,280
all right. Uh this is a a great starting

5228
05:11:39,280 --> 05:11:41,920
point to at least for us as immediate

5229
05:11:41,920 --> 05:11:44,400
members of the surrounding area, it's

5230
05:11:44,400 --> 05:11:46,240
something that we can discuss with our

5231
05:11:46,240 --> 05:11:47,760
neighbors and other people around to

5232
05:11:47,760 --> 05:11:51,120
just get the conversation going and we

5233
05:11:51,120 --> 05:11:53,440
can at a later time schedule another

5234
05:11:53,440 --> 05:11:55,120
meeting and and we can come back with

5235
05:11:55,120 --> 05:12:02,390
you with with a position.

5236
05:12:02,400 --> 05:12:06,788
Any other questions?

5237
05:12:06,798 --> 05:12:08,480
» Thank you very much.

5238
05:12:08,480 --> 05:12:09,590
>> All right. Thanks, folks.

5239
05:12:09,590 --> 05:12:09,600
» All right. Thanks, folks.

5240
05:12:09,600 --> 05:12:10,230
>> Yeah.

5241
05:12:10,230 --> 05:12:10,240
» Yeah.

5242
05:12:10,240 --> 05:12:34,150
>> Have a good day.

5243
05:12:34,160 --> 05:12:42,070
All right. All right.

5244
05:12:42,080 --> 05:12:43,520
» Yes.

5245
05:12:43,520 --> 05:12:45,350
>> Council Wilson.

5246
05:12:45,350 --> 05:12:45,360
» Council Wilson.

5247
05:12:45,360 --> 05:12:48,470
>> Yeah. I just uh would acknowledge the

5248
05:12:48,470 --> 05:12:48,480
» Yeah. I just uh would acknowledge the

5249
05:12:48,480 --> 05:12:51,440
presentation as brought forth by the

5250
05:12:51,440 --> 05:12:55,830
friends of the horseshoe.

5251
05:12:55,840 --> 05:12:58,160
» Cool.

5252
05:12:58,160 --> 05:13:01,200
All right. Council and count committee

5253
05:13:01,200 --> 05:13:02,878
reports.

5254
05:13:02,878 --> 05:13:07,120
Uh let's start with the SCSS.

5255
05:13:07,120 --> 05:13:09,120
This will be a good one.

5256
05:13:09,120 --> 05:13:11,830
>> Thank you. Um,

5257
05:13:11,830 --> 05:13:11,840
» Thank you. Um,

5258
05:13:11,840 --> 05:13:14,000
no, I had just included the minutes from

5259
05:13:14,000 --> 05:13:16,000
the

5260
05:13:16,000 --> 05:13:18,400
um, thank you Candace from the January

5261
05:13:18,400 --> 05:13:21,280
meeting. So, um, unless anyone has any

5262
05:13:21,280 --> 05:13:25,200
questions on that. Um, I did uh, mention

5263
05:13:25,200 --> 05:13:28,878
to the FCSS director that we would um,

5264
05:13:28,878 --> 05:13:30,878
really love to see some numbers

5265
05:13:30,878 --> 05:13:34,070
>> um, as to the uh, usage from Nihill

5266
05:13:34,070 --> 05:13:34,080
» um, as to the uh, usage from Nihill

5267
05:13:34,080 --> 05:13:36,480
County residents. So, um, I did convey

5268
05:13:36,480 --> 05:13:40,320
that and I'm not sure and Miss Cochran

5269
05:13:40,320 --> 05:13:42,160
can maybe help me with this. The grant

5270
05:13:42,160 --> 05:13:44,958
writer portion, if I'm right, you

5271
05:13:44,958 --> 05:13:48,240
receive the numbers for that for usage

5272
05:13:48,240 --> 05:13:51,520
of whether it's town of Tho

5273
05:13:51,520 --> 05:13:52,718
County. Is that correct?

5274
05:13:52,718 --> 05:13:54,470
>> Yes. To the brief to council, we do

5275
05:13:54,470 --> 05:13:54,480
» Yes. To the brief to council, we do

5276
05:13:54,480 --> 05:13:56,080
receive a report monthly from the grant

5277
05:13:56,080 --> 05:13:57,440
writer as to what they've applied for

5278
05:13:57,440 --> 05:13:59,440
and I can share that out with council.

5279
05:13:59,440 --> 05:14:01,270
>> Thank you. Yep. So, unless anybody has

5280
05:14:01,270 --> 05:14:01,280
» Thank you. Yep. So, unless anybody has

5281
05:14:01,280 --> 05:14:05,040
any questions, that's it for me.

5282
05:14:05,040 --> 05:14:07,520
that that there would be a good thing to

5283
05:14:07,520 --> 05:14:10,240
look into. I mean, we do spend an awful

5284
05:14:10,240 --> 05:14:11,360
lot of money there.

5285
05:14:11,360 --> 05:14:13,670
>> Yeah. Thanks.

5286
05:14:13,670 --> 05:14:13,680
» Yeah. Thanks.

5287
05:14:13,680 --> 05:14:15,600
Uh

5288
05:14:15,600 --> 05:14:19,920
the next agenda item, the SB U Councor

5289
05:14:19,920 --> 05:14:23,280
Woodstock, the meeting or pardon me, the

5290
05:14:23,280 --> 05:14:25,040
convention.

5291
05:14:25,040 --> 05:14:27,670
>> Yes. Uh the egg service board had their

5292
05:14:27,670 --> 05:14:27,680
» Yes. Uh the egg service board had their

5293
05:14:27,680 --> 05:14:30,798
conference last week.

5294
05:14:30,798 --> 05:14:33,520
uh councelor Olsen, councelor Anderson

5295
05:14:33,520 --> 05:14:36,080
and myself attended.

5296
05:14:36,080 --> 05:14:40,400
Lot of good information presented there.

5297
05:14:40,400 --> 05:14:45,360
Um it was it was it was a great it was a

5298
05:14:45,360 --> 05:14:47,440
great conference because there was so

5299
05:14:47,440 --> 05:14:50,320
much information presented there. Uh AI

5300
05:14:50,320 --> 05:14:54,718
and Egg was uh done by Rob Sych. His

5301
05:14:54,718 --> 05:14:57,040
alter ego would be Steve Stubble jumpsky

5302
05:14:57,040 --> 05:15:00,560
if you've ever seen him. But he didn't

5303
05:15:00,560 --> 05:15:02,878
he wasn't he was actually being very

5304
05:15:02,878 --> 05:15:05,120
serious and AI has been used in

5305
05:15:05,120 --> 05:15:07,920
agriculture. Probably the biggest user

5306
05:15:07,920 --> 05:15:10,718
of AI will be agriculture in the future

5307
05:15:10,718 --> 05:15:13,920
according to what he was projecting. Uh

5308
05:15:13,920 --> 05:15:18,000
we also had Filipe Masetti. He's the guy

5309
05:15:18,000 --> 05:15:21,360
that rode a horse 27,000 miles across

5310
05:15:21,360 --> 05:15:25,040
from starting in Alaska all the way down

5311
05:15:25,040 --> 05:15:28,240
to I think the southern tip of Brazil if

5312
05:15:28,240 --> 05:15:31,520
I'm not mistaken. And uh so he had a

5313
05:15:31,520 --> 05:15:34,638
inspirational speech there. We also had

5314
05:15:34,638 --> 05:15:37,280
some economists and what's happening in

5315
05:15:37,280 --> 05:15:39,520
the world trade area. Earl Anderson

5316
05:15:39,520 --> 05:15:41,120
speaking.

5317
05:15:41,120 --> 05:15:43,360
um

5318
05:15:43,360 --> 05:15:46,718
he well regardless things are going to

5319
05:15:46,718 --> 05:15:48,958
change but when they're going to change

5320
05:15:48,958 --> 05:15:52,718
he doesn't know which is why he's giving

5321
05:15:52,718 --> 05:15:55,040
actual speeches and not living on an

5322
05:15:55,040 --> 05:15:57,440
island someplace.

5323
05:15:57,440 --> 05:16:00,878
Uh we've also had Alberta climate and

5324
05:16:00,878 --> 05:16:04,160
weather. Trevor Wallace was there spoke

5325
05:16:04,160 --> 05:16:08,240
on the trends of weather and basically

5326
05:16:08,240 --> 05:16:12,080
said that yeah it's going to be

5327
05:16:12,080 --> 05:16:14,560
hot or it's going to be dry or it's

5328
05:16:14,560 --> 05:16:17,200
going to be windy or it's going to be

5329
05:16:17,200 --> 05:16:21,200
cold. Never sure which but it's there is

5330
05:16:21,200 --> 05:16:24,480
no way to forecast it which we kind of

5331
05:16:24,480 --> 05:16:26,958
seem to know there anyway. And there was

5332
05:16:26,958 --> 05:16:29,680
a number of other things that were uh

5333
05:16:29,680 --> 05:16:31,840
good trade show, lots of interest in the

5334
05:16:31,840 --> 05:16:35,440
trade show. It was a good conference all

5335
05:16:35,440 --> 05:16:38,320
around. Uh the summer tour is going to

5336
05:16:38,320 --> 05:16:40,480
be hosted by Wheatland County, I do

5337
05:16:40,480 --> 05:16:43,760
believe July 14th to the 16th.

5338
05:16:43,760 --> 05:16:47,440
So if you want to participate, um keep

5339
05:16:47,440 --> 05:16:49,520
it in mind because it's going to be

5340
05:16:49,520 --> 05:16:51,680
close to home and they've and they're

5341
05:16:51,680 --> 05:16:54,320
really excited about showing off

5342
05:16:54,320 --> 05:16:56,798
Wheatland County.

5343
05:16:56,798 --> 05:16:58,878
And that's pretty much everything that

5344
05:16:58,878 --> 05:17:00,798
I've got to report on, but there was

5345
05:17:00,798 --> 05:17:02,560
quite a bit more there.

5346
05:17:02,560 --> 05:17:04,470
>> Uh, go

5347
05:17:04,470 --> 05:17:04,480
» Uh, go

5348
05:17:04,480 --> 05:17:07,670
>> was there was there any uh any

5349
05:17:07,670 --> 05:17:07,680
» was there was there any uh any

5350
05:17:07,680 --> 05:17:10,400
acknowledgement or anything about the uh

5351
05:17:10,400 --> 05:17:14,400
canola tariffs uh through of course the

5352
05:17:14,400 --> 05:17:16,480
minister wasn't there. Correct.

5353
05:17:16,480 --> 05:17:20,638
the ADM was there. Um, and that would

5354
05:17:20,638 --> 05:17:22,638
have been brought up through making

5355
05:17:22,638 --> 05:17:24,480
sense of Yeah, that would have been in

5356
05:17:24,480 --> 05:17:27,520
Earl Anderson's little spiel because

5357
05:17:27,520 --> 05:17:30,160
that was to do with uh making sense of

5358
05:17:30,160 --> 05:17:33,840
stained stained sustained economics and

5359
05:17:33,840 --> 05:17:35,840
world tariffs.

5360
05:17:35,840 --> 05:17:38,958
So, they're looking forward to having

5361
05:17:38,958 --> 05:17:41,760
trade with China and the price of canola

5362
05:17:41,760 --> 05:17:44,718
going up. But he's also acknowledged

5363
05:17:44,718 --> 05:17:47,920
that the price of grains in general has

5364
05:17:47,920 --> 05:17:51,680
come down and it's probably going to uh

5365
05:17:51,680 --> 05:17:52,958
it's going to take quite a bit to get

5366
05:17:52,958 --> 05:17:55,440
the prices back up again.

5367
05:17:55,440 --> 05:17:58,718
But as far as the cattle industry goes,

5368
05:17:58,718 --> 05:18:02,400
cattle industry is peaking. Well, I

5369
05:18:02,400 --> 05:18:03,440
don't know if it's peaking. They

5370
05:18:03,440 --> 05:18:06,718
consider it to keep going up. Um cost of

5371
05:18:06,718 --> 05:18:08,958
beef will continue to rise. Uh it's

5372
05:18:08,958 --> 05:18:11,840
because of retention numbers. Currently

5373
05:18:11,840 --> 05:18:15,200
they're forecasting possibly 30%

5374
05:18:15,200 --> 05:18:17,520
increase in retention. The only problem

5375
05:18:17,520 --> 05:18:20,320
is is when it goes to

5376
05:18:20,320 --> 05:18:21,840
profitability

5377
05:18:21,840 --> 05:18:24,958
if somebody buys a or intends to bring a

5378
05:18:24,958 --> 05:18:27,440
heer breed it and bring it into

5379
05:18:27,440 --> 05:18:29,680
production. If there is economics that

5380
05:18:29,680 --> 05:18:31,520
show that that heer is actually going to

5381
05:18:31,520 --> 05:18:34,878
make a profit that will actually go into

5382
05:18:34,878 --> 05:18:36,958
making a profit rather than going into

5383
05:18:36,958 --> 05:18:40,160
increasing the cattle herds.

5384
05:18:40,160 --> 05:18:42,000
So unless something kind of maybe

5385
05:18:42,000 --> 05:18:44,638
shifts, cattle numbers are forecast to

5386
05:18:44,638 --> 05:18:48,000
remain low and cattle prices or beef

5387
05:18:48,000 --> 05:18:51,040
prices to remain high.

5388
05:18:51,040 --> 05:18:55,910
But you know how experts work that?

5389
05:18:55,920 --> 05:18:58,560
» Any other questions? Uh councelor

5390
05:18:58,560 --> 05:18:59,200
Cunningham.

5391
05:18:59,200 --> 05:19:01,670
>> Uh two questions that I have. Um kind of

5392
05:19:01,670 --> 05:19:01,680
» Uh two questions that I have. Um kind of

5393
05:19:01,680 --> 05:19:04,000
federal issues. Uh, a couple rate pairs

5394
05:19:04,000 --> 05:19:06,958
asked me if Nihil County was providing

5395
05:19:06,958 --> 05:19:08,560
um any feedback to the federal

5396
05:19:08,560 --> 05:19:10,718
government on this potential new

5397
05:19:10,718 --> 05:19:13,680
traceability requirements from the CFIA.

5398
05:19:13,680 --> 05:19:17,600
And I I think um maybe this it was

5399
05:19:17,600 --> 05:19:19,200
county of Stler had put forward a

5400
05:19:19,200 --> 05:19:21,280
resolution and if if so could you just

5401
05:19:21,280 --> 05:19:22,638
maybe talk to that a little bit just so

5402
05:19:22,638 --> 05:19:24,080
our rate payers are kind of aware what's

5403
05:19:24,080 --> 05:19:25,440
going on with that.

5404
05:19:25,440 --> 05:19:27,830
>> Yes, there was a res there was a

5405
05:19:27,830 --> 05:19:27,840
» Yes, there was a res there was a

5406
05:19:27,840 --> 05:19:29,280
resolution that came in through the

5407
05:19:29,280 --> 05:19:33,040
resolutions committee. Uh it was amended

5408
05:19:33,040 --> 05:19:37,040
to state that they would like to put a

5409
05:19:37,040 --> 05:19:40,160
hold on it. Uh the amendment said 3

5410
05:19:40,160 --> 05:19:41,680
years and then the amendment was

5411
05:19:41,680 --> 05:19:44,320
defeated and the word indefinitely put

5412
05:19:44,320 --> 05:19:47,920
in there. What they're looking at is

5413
05:19:47,920 --> 05:19:51,920
like right now CFIA is really pushing to

5414
05:19:51,920 --> 05:19:55,760
have more and more input but the egg

5415
05:19:55,760 --> 05:19:58,560
service boards feel that we have a very

5416
05:19:58,560 --> 05:20:01,360
good traceability system in Canada top

5417
05:20:01,360 --> 05:20:04,160
of top of the world actually. We can

5418
05:20:04,160 --> 05:20:08,320
actually trace it right back to um trace

5419
05:20:08,320 --> 05:20:10,480
it back to the herd of origin by just

5420
05:20:10,480 --> 05:20:12,718
using manifests and branding. But with

5421
05:20:12,718 --> 05:20:15,440
the tagging system that just clarifies

5422
05:20:15,440 --> 05:20:18,958
it even even more. So the the

5423
05:20:18,958 --> 05:20:21,760
resolutions

5424
05:20:21,760 --> 05:20:24,080
basically stated, yeah, let's let's put

5425
05:20:24,080 --> 05:20:28,320
this on hold indefinitely and uh prove

5426
05:20:28,320 --> 05:20:31,120
that we actually have to have enhanced

5427
05:20:31,120 --> 05:20:34,240
CFIA participation.

5428
05:20:34,240 --> 05:20:36,390
>> Thanks for that. I'm just something to

5429
05:20:36,390 --> 05:20:36,400
» Thanks for that. I'm just something to

5430
05:20:36,400 --> 05:20:40,000
pose. I I wonder if it would be um

5431
05:20:40,000 --> 05:20:41,680
something maybe egg service if there's

5432
05:20:41,680 --> 05:20:43,520
like maybe a letter that went out. I

5433
05:20:43,520 --> 05:20:45,200
mean I I know it's we're fighting the

5434
05:20:45,200 --> 05:20:47,760
giant but um I never think it hurts to

5435
05:20:47,760 --> 05:20:49,840
have our voices heard. So just maybe

5436
05:20:49,840 --> 05:20:51,760
something I'd maybe ask egg service

5437
05:20:51,760 --> 05:20:52,240
board to

5438
05:20:52,240 --> 05:20:53,430
>> I think it should come from council

5439
05:20:53,430 --> 05:20:53,440
» I think it should come from council

5440
05:20:53,440 --> 05:20:54,708
>> or come from council. Yeah.

5441
05:20:54,708 --> 05:20:54,718
» or come from council. Yeah.

5442
05:20:54,718 --> 05:20:56,150
>> I think I I think it actually should

5443
05:20:56,150 --> 05:20:56,160
» I think I I think it actually should

5444
05:20:56,160 --> 05:20:57,360
come from council. One of the other

5445
05:20:57,360 --> 05:20:58,638
questions that and Jerry you might know

5446
05:20:58,638 --> 05:21:01,280
or councelor Woodstock would know what

5447
05:21:01,280 --> 05:21:03,280
what was the reasoning for this from the

5448
05:21:03,280 --> 05:21:04,878
federal government? We had such a good

5449
05:21:04,878 --> 05:21:07,040
system and now now it seems like it it's

5450
05:21:07,040 --> 05:21:08,560
just that you crossed the fence and now

5451
05:21:08,560 --> 05:21:11,680
you're into trouble again

5452
05:21:11,680 --> 05:21:14,708
>> because they can.

5453
05:21:14,708 --> 05:21:14,718
» because they can.

5454
05:21:14,718 --> 05:21:16,638
I mean, I can't justify why they're

5455
05:21:16,638 --> 05:21:19,120
doing it. I don't think they can justify

5456
05:21:19,120 --> 05:21:21,120
why they're doing it other than the fact

5457
05:21:21,120 --> 05:21:23,920
that they seem to think they can get

5458
05:21:23,920 --> 05:21:26,560
away with enhancing. And I don't know if

5459
05:21:26,560 --> 05:21:28,798
it's actually an enhancement or it's

5460
05:21:28,798 --> 05:21:31,520
more of a detriment to the actual cater

5461
05:21:31,520 --> 05:21:33,440
cattle producers,

5462
05:21:33,440 --> 05:21:36,160
but some of the stuff that was stated

5463
05:21:36,160 --> 05:21:39,200
there, like they said that every time a

5464
05:21:39,200 --> 05:21:43,920
cow moves off its premise that it would

5465
05:21:43,920 --> 05:21:46,638
have to be identified, but there were

5466
05:21:46,638 --> 05:21:49,040
statements made there by people that

5467
05:21:49,040 --> 05:21:51,520
were part of CFIA that said, "No, no,

5468
05:21:51,520 --> 05:21:54,080
no. That's not what we're looking for."

5469
05:21:54,080 --> 05:21:55,600
So, I'm just trying to figure out what

5470
05:21:55,600 --> 05:21:57,200
it was that they were actually trying

5471
05:21:57,200 --> 05:21:58,560
trying to prove and what they were

5472
05:21:58,560 --> 05:22:00,638
looking for.

5473
05:22:00,638 --> 05:22:02,958
That being said, I mean, maybe what we

5474
05:22:02,958 --> 05:22:04,240
should be doing, and this is just a

5475
05:22:04,240 --> 05:22:06,560
thought, um, I got a couple letters

5476
05:22:06,560 --> 05:22:08,878
sitting on my desk at home from the

5477
05:22:08,878 --> 05:22:11,920
official opposition leader of Canada,

5478
05:22:11,920 --> 05:22:14,000
maybe we should send a letter to him

5479
05:22:14,000 --> 05:22:16,080
stating that, you know, maybe this is be

5480
05:22:16,080 --> 05:22:17,520
something that you could maybe ask the

5481
05:22:17,520 --> 05:22:19,280
egg minister

5482
05:22:19,280 --> 05:22:21,360
uh, and what the benefits are to us

5483
05:22:21,360 --> 05:22:23,680
Albertans or Scattle people, not not

5484
05:22:23,680 --> 05:22:26,560
just Alberta. Um, might be might be a

5485
05:22:26,560 --> 05:22:29,360
worthwhile presentation. Uh, I think we

5486
05:22:29,360 --> 05:22:31,440
should start using these people. Um,

5487
05:22:31,440 --> 05:22:33,600
whether it's whether it's him or whether

5488
05:22:33,600 --> 05:22:37,120
it's our even our MLAs. Um, a lot of a

5489
05:22:37,120 --> 05:22:39,280
lot of comments came from our district 2

5490
05:22:39,280 --> 05:22:42,480
meeting about even the MLAs got to get

5491
05:22:42,480 --> 05:22:44,000
involved with us more on this ground

5492
05:22:44,000 --> 05:22:45,920
level to to get with the program, right?

5493
05:22:45,920 --> 05:22:47,360
Because they seem to be in a closed door

5494
05:22:47,360 --> 05:22:49,040
session all the time up there and

5495
05:22:49,040 --> 05:22:50,240
they're not seeing what's actually

5496
05:22:50,240 --> 05:22:52,560
happened to the rapeers. That in fact

5497
05:22:52,560 --> 05:22:54,480
was one of the recommendation that came

5498
05:22:54,480 --> 05:22:57,440
from the people wanting to change it is

5499
05:22:57,440 --> 05:23:01,200
to go that route. That's the only thing

5500
05:23:01,200 --> 05:23:04,560
we've got left to go to is those people.

5501
05:23:04,560 --> 05:23:05,350
>> What can I

5502
05:23:05,350 --> 05:23:05,360
» What can I

5503
05:23:05,360 --> 05:23:07,670
>> Well, 40% of the cattle herd is actually

5504
05:23:07,670 --> 05:23:07,680
» Well, 40% of the cattle herd is actually

5505
05:23:07,680 --> 05:23:10,718
centered in the Canadian cattle herd is

5506
05:23:10,718 --> 05:23:12,560
actually centered in Canada. So, we have

5507
05:23:12,560 --> 05:23:14,798
the most to lose here. And I don't know

5508
05:23:14,798 --> 05:23:16,878
if there's anything that uh either

5509
05:23:16,878 --> 05:23:19,280
councelor Anderson or councelor Olsen

5510
05:23:19,280 --> 05:23:21,200
would like to add that I maybe missed.

5511
05:23:21,200 --> 05:23:23,680
By all means uh if you give them the

5512
05:23:23,680 --> 05:23:25,440
opportunity maybe they'll get the maybe

5513
05:23:25,440 --> 05:23:29,510
they'll get a different perspective.

5514
05:23:29,520 --> 05:23:31,040
» Councelor Olsson.

5515
05:23:31,040 --> 05:23:33,510
>> Yeah. No, I think uh Miss Councelor

5516
05:23:33,510 --> 05:23:33,520
» Yeah. No, I think uh Miss Councelor

5517
05:23:33,520 --> 05:23:35,440
Woodstock covered it fairly well. It's

5518
05:23:35,440 --> 05:23:38,798
just uh ongoing.

5519
05:23:38,798 --> 05:23:41,040
We just heard uh there will be ongoing

5520
05:23:41,040 --> 05:23:42,560
struggles.

5521
05:23:42,560 --> 05:23:44,320
uh

5522
05:23:44,320 --> 05:23:48,638
in this industry and and the whole uh mo

5523
05:23:48,638 --> 05:23:50,958
or theme of the thing was cultivating

5524
05:23:50,958 --> 05:23:53,920
resilience. So uh it's basically just

5525
05:23:53,920 --> 05:23:56,480
you know telling people that are in the

5526
05:23:56,480 --> 05:23:59,440
industry egg industry to be resilient

5527
05:23:59,440 --> 05:24:02,000
and stick with things and and even

5528
05:24:02,000 --> 05:24:04,400
though things might get bumpy. One of

5529
05:24:04,400 --> 05:24:05,840
the things one of the things that I've

5530
05:24:05,840 --> 05:24:07,600
heard and I've heard this from different

5531
05:24:07,600 --> 05:24:10,400
reefs uh throughout our area here is

5532
05:24:10,400 --> 05:24:13,440
that one of the concerns is that with

5533
05:24:13,440 --> 05:24:15,440
the way that oil and gas is going right

5534
05:24:15,440 --> 05:24:18,638
now, agriculture is still the main the

5535
05:24:18,638 --> 05:24:20,480
main scoop around here. So, we got to

5536
05:24:20,480 --> 05:24:22,240
start looking after this agriculture a

5537
05:24:22,240 --> 05:24:24,080
little bit better and and start fighting

5538
05:24:24,080 --> 05:24:25,600
against these guys to that that are

5539
05:24:25,600 --> 05:24:28,320
actually to me to me this is this is an

5540
05:24:28,320 --> 05:24:32,320
attack on a system that was

5541
05:24:32,320 --> 05:24:34,480
bombroof if you would ask me and I mean

5542
05:24:34,480 --> 05:24:36,638
is it just for bureaucracy or is it you

5543
05:24:36,638 --> 05:24:38,400
know that's what we need to find out and

5544
05:24:38,400 --> 05:24:39,760
that's that's my thought I think we

5545
05:24:39,760 --> 05:24:41,920
should write a letter C

5546
05:24:41,920 --> 05:24:45,030
>> so I I would put forth a motion that

5547
05:24:45,030 --> 05:24:45,040
» so I I would put forth a motion that

5548
05:24:45,040 --> 05:24:48,718
council sends a letter to our MP and our

5549
05:24:48,718 --> 05:24:49,920
MLA

5550
05:24:49,920 --> 05:24:53,200
to provide some clarity on the new

5551
05:24:53,200 --> 05:24:56,000
traceability requirements proposed from

5552
05:24:56,000 --> 05:24:58,480
the CFIA or however you want to word it.

5553
05:24:58,480 --> 05:25:00,400
I know somebody that I was talking to

5554
05:25:00,400 --> 05:25:02,080
said that even with their horse, if they

5555
05:25:02,080 --> 05:25:03,680
take their horse to the parade, they

5556
05:25:03,680 --> 05:25:07,280
will have to report that. So, um, sounds

5557
05:25:07,280 --> 05:25:08,480
uh, very

5558
05:25:08,480 --> 05:25:10,070
>> Well, I was just a little concerned what

5559
05:25:10,070 --> 05:25:10,080
» Well, I was just a little concerned what

5560
05:25:10,080 --> 05:25:12,000
happens when councelor Olsson's bees

5561
05:25:12,000 --> 05:25:19,910
escape.

5562
05:25:19,920 --> 05:25:27,590
Thanks, Reef.

5563
05:25:27,600 --> 05:25:28,958
» There there was two other things that

5564
05:25:28,958 --> 05:25:30,560
were I thought was particularly

5565
05:25:30,560 --> 05:25:31,120
interesting.

5566
05:25:31,120 --> 05:25:32,628
>> Oh, just a bit.

5567
05:25:32,628 --> 05:25:32,638
» Oh, just a bit.

5568
05:25:32,638 --> 05:25:34,550
>> Oh, okay.

5569
05:25:34,550 --> 05:25:34,560
» Oh, okay.

5570
05:25:34,560 --> 05:25:35,910
>> Sorry, Council Anderson. I should have

5571
05:25:35,910 --> 05:25:35,920
» Sorry, Council Anderson. I should have

5572
05:25:35,920 --> 05:25:38,320
let you go first, but um so my motion

5573
05:25:38,320 --> 05:25:39,680
would be that council directs

5574
05:25:39,680 --> 05:25:41,520
administration to draft a letter to our

5575
05:25:41,520 --> 05:25:46,320
MLA and our MP. um maybe to provide

5576
05:25:46,320 --> 05:25:49,600
clarity on the potential new

5577
05:25:49,600 --> 05:25:52,878
requirements on traceability from the

5578
05:25:52,878 --> 05:25:55,600
CFIA.

5579
05:25:55,600 --> 05:25:57,110
>> Does that make sense?

5580
05:25:57,110 --> 05:25:57,120
» Does that make sense?

5581
05:25:57,120 --> 05:26:03,110
>> Um is is my thought would be is

5582
05:26:03,120 --> 05:26:08,470
» CFID

5583
05:26:08,480 --> 05:26:10,878
» and would you could add would gladly sit

5584
05:26:10,878 --> 05:26:12,240
down and meet.

5585
05:26:12,240 --> 05:26:15,030
>> He told me he would.

5586
05:26:15,030 --> 05:26:15,040
» He told me he would.

5587
05:26:15,040 --> 05:26:17,440
and would be open to a potential meeting

5588
05:26:17,440 --> 05:26:21,360
with either of these entities

5589
05:26:21,360 --> 05:26:23,430
>> potential potential new requirements. I

5590
05:26:23,430 --> 05:26:23,440
» potential potential new requirements. I

5591
05:26:23,440 --> 05:26:26,240
guess we need the clarity on on the

5592
05:26:26,240 --> 05:26:28,878
reasoning that this is for

5593
05:26:28,878 --> 05:26:38,070
>> like

5594
05:26:38,080 --> 05:26:40,638
» we would welcome a meeting with either

5595
05:26:40,638 --> 05:27:09,830
of them, both of them. All of them.

5596
05:27:09,840 --> 05:27:12,718
Is everybody comfortable with that? Do

5597
05:27:12,718 --> 05:27:14,958
you want to read it back?

5598
05:27:14,958 --> 05:27:18,628
>> You could. Or is everybody good with it?

5599
05:27:18,628 --> 05:27:18,638
» You could. Or is everybody good with it?

5600
05:27:18,638 --> 05:27:21,190
>> I can read it. I'll read it. Um, I will

5601
05:27:21,190 --> 05:27:21,200
» I can read it. I'll read it. Um, I will

5602
05:27:21,200 --> 05:27:22,480
make the motion that council directs

5603
05:27:22,480 --> 05:27:24,240
administration to draft a letter to our

5604
05:27:24,240 --> 05:27:26,638
MLA and to our MP to provide clarity on

5605
05:27:26,638 --> 05:27:28,240
the reasoning for the potential new

5606
05:27:28,240 --> 05:27:30,320
requirements from the Canadian Food

5607
05:27:30,320 --> 05:27:32,638
Inspection Agency and state we would

5608
05:27:32,638 --> 05:27:36,788
welcome a meeting with them.

5609
05:27:36,798 --> 05:27:40,320
» Thank you. Uh, everybody clear on that?

5610
05:27:40,320 --> 05:27:45,200
Any discussion, concerns?

5611
05:27:45,200 --> 05:27:47,680
All in favor?

5612
05:27:47,680 --> 05:27:51,750
Carrie announced

5613
05:27:51,760 --> 05:27:53,680
Merurl after sorry we cut you off. Did

5614
05:27:53,680 --> 05:27:54,638
you want to discuss?

5615
05:27:54,638 --> 05:27:57,030
>> I just wanted to uh a couple other

5616
05:27:57,030 --> 05:27:57,040
» I just wanted to uh a couple other

5617
05:27:57,040 --> 05:27:59,360
issues that were uh addressed I found

5618
05:27:59,360 --> 05:28:02,480
particularly interesting because

5619
05:28:02,480 --> 05:28:06,000
I am a agricultural person. They are

5620
05:28:06,000 --> 05:28:10,558
trying to and are within one month of a

5621
05:28:10,558 --> 05:28:13,760
possible reinstatement of strick nine

5622
05:28:13,760 --> 05:28:16,320
for our areas.

5623
05:28:16,320 --> 05:28:19,600
It's not in done yet, but it's close. Uh

5624
05:28:19,600 --> 05:28:22,320
the other one was I found very

5625
05:28:22,320 --> 05:28:26,080
interesting was the wild boar uh thing,

5626
05:28:26,080 --> 05:28:28,000
what they're doing with the wild boar.

5627
05:28:28,000 --> 05:28:31,440
Uh heard about it, never experienced it.

5628
05:28:31,440 --> 05:28:34,160
They did clarify where the areas are of

5629
05:28:34,160 --> 05:28:36,958
high numbers are, what they're doing.

5630
05:28:36,958 --> 05:28:39,360
They're they're pursuing a more of a

5631
05:28:39,360 --> 05:28:41,840
trapping rather than a shooting thing.

5632
05:28:41,840 --> 05:28:44,958
Uh, but it it was good information to

5633
05:28:44,958 --> 05:28:47,520
war because I never knew where the

5634
05:28:47,520 --> 05:28:49,760
incidents. I've never seen one, but I

5635
05:28:49,760 --> 05:28:53,280
know it's a problem.

5636
05:28:53,280 --> 05:28:56,070
>> Council, just one more. Um, the the

5637
05:28:56,070 --> 05:28:56,080
» Council, just one more. Um, the the

5638
05:28:56,080 --> 05:28:58,958
other um issue that that's come up to me

5639
05:28:58,958 --> 05:29:00,480
a few times, and I think this would have

5640
05:29:00,480 --> 05:29:02,638
happened after your convention, but a

5641
05:29:02,638 --> 05:29:04,878
lot of folks are really concerned about

5642
05:29:04,878 --> 05:29:06,638
um the discontinuation of the LOM

5643
05:29:06,638 --> 05:29:08,958
research station. Um, I think it's been

5644
05:29:08,958 --> 05:29:11,680
in operation since 19 it was announced

5645
05:29:11,680 --> 05:29:15,120
after. Yeah. Since 1907. So, um maybe

5646
05:29:15,120 --> 05:29:16,798
nothing we want to, you know, address

5647
05:29:16,798 --> 05:29:18,558
right now, but um maybe see where it

5648
05:29:18,558 --> 05:29:20,320
goes in another couple weeks or

5649
05:29:20,320 --> 05:29:21,830
>> I I think we should keep an eye on that

5650
05:29:21,830 --> 05:29:21,840
» I I think we should keep an eye on that

5651
05:29:21,840 --> 05:29:23,360
one because actually there was something

5652
05:29:23,360 --> 05:29:26,878
like an unbelievable amount of federal

5653
05:29:26,878 --> 05:29:29,440
uh employees that are going to be let go

5654
05:29:29,440 --> 05:29:30,878
like throughout Canada.

5655
05:29:30,878 --> 05:29:33,270
>> It's just just not here. But it always

5656
05:29:33,270 --> 05:29:33,280
» It's just just not here. But it always

5657
05:29:33,280 --> 05:29:35,600
seems that when the feds do something,

5658
05:29:35,600 --> 05:29:38,160
it always seems to affect us farmers.

5659
05:29:38,160 --> 05:29:39,600
That's the problem. That's what really

5660
05:29:39,600 --> 05:29:41,680
bothers me the most. So, I think we got

5661
05:29:41,680 --> 05:29:43,680
to really keep our eye on on the ball

5662
05:29:43,680 --> 05:29:46,638
here and we got to do as whatever we

5663
05:29:46,638 --> 05:29:48,798
can. I know it's like fighting or

5664
05:29:48,798 --> 05:29:51,520
beating a dead horse with a stick, but

5665
05:29:51,520 --> 05:29:54,798
we we got to you got to keep trying.

5666
05:29:54,798 --> 05:29:58,390
Thanks for that.

5667
05:29:58,400 --> 05:30:02,400
Any other comments, concerns,

5668
05:30:02,400 --> 05:30:04,240
any other thing to going on that we need

5669
05:30:04,240 --> 05:30:07,120
to know?

5670
05:30:07,120 --> 05:30:08,788
>> All right.

5671
05:30:08,788 --> 05:30:08,798
» All right.

5672
05:30:08,798 --> 05:30:16,470
I'm looking for you. Know what?

5673
05:30:16,480 --> 05:30:17,280
Council cutting.

5674
05:30:17,280 --> 05:30:18,548
>> I'll move the council receive for

5675
05:30:18,548 --> 05:30:18,558
» I'll move the council receive for

5676
05:30:18,558 --> 05:30:21,200
information the council. Nope, that's

5677
05:30:21,200 --> 05:30:24,470
not right.

5678
05:30:24,480 --> 05:30:27,680
You're tricking me. Um, so I'll move

5679
05:30:27,680 --> 05:30:29,840
that we receive for information the

5680
05:30:29,840 --> 05:30:31,120
council and committee report as

5681
05:30:31,120 --> 05:30:35,040
presented. Thank you, Candace.

5682
05:30:35,040 --> 05:30:37,350
>> Thank you.

5683
05:30:37,350 --> 05:30:37,360
» Thank you.

5684
05:30:37,360 --> 05:31:04,230
We're looking for number 13.

5685
05:31:04,240 --> 05:31:05,840
» Do you want any discussion? Go ahead.

5686
05:31:05,840 --> 05:31:07,680
Anybody any any concerns on the

5687
05:31:07,680 --> 05:31:10,400
followup? Everybody's looked at that.

5688
05:31:10,400 --> 05:31:15,190
>> We can look at that. Uh oh, pardon me.

5689
05:31:15,190 --> 05:31:15,200
» We can look at that. Uh oh, pardon me.

5690
05:31:15,200 --> 05:31:16,788
>> One of the things that one of the things

5691
05:31:16,788 --> 05:31:16,798
» One of the things that one of the things

5692
05:31:16,798 --> 05:31:19,600
that uh I was that I noticed that I'd

5693
05:31:19,600 --> 05:31:22,718
like to see changed is is on our uh we

5694
05:31:22,718 --> 05:31:26,160
can talk about it too next council

5695
05:31:26,160 --> 05:31:28,480
meeting

5696
05:31:28,480 --> 05:31:31,200
is the actual report to council. Did

5697
05:31:31,200 --> 05:31:32,798
everybody have a look at that one?

5698
05:31:32,798 --> 05:31:34,948
>> Okay. got some there's stuff stuff in

5699
05:31:34,948 --> 05:31:34,958
» Okay. got some there's stuff stuff in

5700
05:31:34,958 --> 05:31:36,400
there we should talk about if you want

5701
05:31:36,400 --> 05:31:39,600
to add to the agenda for next time

5702
05:31:39,600 --> 05:31:41,920
the the council followup as far as I as

5703
05:31:41,920 --> 05:31:43,680
what I looked at I'm okay with it right

5704
05:31:43,680 --> 05:31:46,000
now uh councelor Cunningham

5705
05:31:46,000 --> 05:31:47,990
>> okay and it might be in here but my eyes

5706
05:31:47,990 --> 05:31:48,000
» okay and it might be in here but my eyes

5707
05:31:48,000 --> 05:31:50,878
are starting to go funny but um we had

5708
05:31:50,878 --> 05:31:52,400
made that motion I think a couple

5709
05:31:52,400 --> 05:31:54,000
meetings ago about sending the letter to

5710
05:31:54,000 --> 05:31:56,718
the minister of affordability and

5711
05:31:56,718 --> 05:31:59,520
utilities um has that been done yeah

5712
05:31:59,520 --> 05:32:09,030
okay thank Any

5713
05:32:09,040 --> 05:32:16,708
concerns, questions?

5714
05:32:16,718 --> 05:32:21,750
» All right.

5715
05:32:21,760 --> 05:32:23,200
» Motion,

5716
05:32:23,200 --> 05:32:24,788
>> councelor Hopkins. I move the council

5717
05:32:24,788 --> 05:32:24,798
» councelor Hopkins. I move the council

5718
05:32:24,798 --> 05:32:27,840
receive the information

5719
05:32:27,840 --> 05:32:30,480
uh from the council follow-up action

5720
05:32:30,480 --> 05:32:33,280
list as presented.

5721
05:32:33,280 --> 05:32:42,868
>> Thank you.

5722
05:32:42,878 --> 05:32:47,270
» We okay there.

5723
05:32:47,280 --> 05:32:49,280
» Do we need Is it a motion?

5724
05:32:49,280 --> 05:32:49,830
>> No,

5725
05:32:49,830 --> 05:32:49,840
» No,

5726
05:32:49,840 --> 05:32:56,230
>> it's not. Yes. No.

5727
05:32:56,240 --> 05:32:59,680
Yeah. So, we don't need a motion. Uh

5728
05:32:59,680 --> 05:33:05,750
adjournment.

5729
05:33:05,760 --> 05:33:09,590
Councelor Olsen.

5730
05:33:09,600 --> 05:33:12,080
I uh

5731
05:33:12,080 --> 05:33:14,160
make the motion that the meeting be

5732
05:33:14,160 --> 05:33:17,440
adjourned at 1

5733
05:33:17,440 --> 05:33:21,910
33 p.m.

5734
05:33:21,920 --> 05:33:26,230
» Good.

5735
05:33:26,240 --> 05:33:31,480
Yeah, that's what we have to clarify.