1 00:00:04,690 --> 00:00:07,350 So those days somebody bought us lunch, somebody very much. 2 00:00:08,390 --> 00:00:09,110 And I can be me. 3 00:00:09,110 --> 00:00:09,930 I haven't eaten yet. 4 00:00:09,970 --> 00:00:11,230 I've been eating now. 5 00:00:11,230 --> 00:00:12,550 And I can smell them. 6 00:00:13,350 --> 00:00:19,030 But I'm sitting in a coffee shop this morning for a while, and it started absorbed into my clothes. 7 00:00:19,590 --> 00:00:21,310 And I'm like, yeah, no, no. 8 00:00:21,370 --> 00:00:22,970 That means, no, that's a good coffee shop. 9 00:00:23,810 --> 00:00:24,890 I mean, smell like oil. 10 00:00:26,050 --> 00:00:27,270 I'm fucking real. 11 00:00:27,530 --> 00:00:28,430 Cooking oil? 12 00:00:28,990 --> 00:00:29,330 Cooking oil. 13 00:00:29,330 --> 00:00:30,710 Ooh, that's Christmas. 14 00:00:31,010 --> 00:00:31,390 Grace. 15 00:00:31,390 --> 00:00:35,570 Let's create a lot of this. 16 00:00:37,750 --> 00:00:39,110 Okay, too. 17 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:44,940 Okay, too. 18 00:00:44,940 --> 00:00:45,920 Are we on it? 19 00:00:48,140 --> 00:00:49,380 Then I will call this, 20 00:00:50,700 --> 00:00:53,440 two famous December 6th special meeting 21 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:55,840 of the last 10th mission to order. 22 00:00:56,300 --> 00:00:58,120 I'll begin the mission to appear. 23 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:02,380 I'll open up the floor to any public comment. 24 00:01:02,660 --> 00:01:04,020 Anybody has any questions? 25 00:01:04,700 --> 00:01:04,940 Sure. 26 00:01:04,940 --> 00:01:05,600 the question. 27 00:01:10,580 --> 00:01:18,000 Seeing this there's none. We'll move down the agenda. We have consent items, 28 00:01:18,260 --> 00:01:21,900 which would be a crew that reserved withdrawals for their motion. 29 00:01:22,540 --> 00:01:23,940 7.8. Second. 30 00:01:24,820 --> 00:01:25,920 Second. Any discussion? 31 00:01:31,190 --> 00:01:33,170 The same as there's none? 32 00:01:33,830 --> 00:01:37,310 I'll just call to the vote. All those paper? 33 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:47,600 I have a number of items here and the number one is an act to accrue the use of the 34 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:54,020 2025 adopted budget as the county's interim operating budget beginning January 1st 35 00:01:55,460 --> 00:01:59,420 2006 until the 2020 since the budget is finalized. 36 00:02:00,400 --> 00:02:01,780 Go ahead and motion. 37 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:03,620 Second. 38 00:02:04,340 --> 00:02:04,420 Second. 39 00:02:04,420 --> 00:02:05,140 Move to the second. 40 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:06,140 Any discussion? 41 00:02:06,140 --> 00:02:06,880 I'm 42 00:02:09,020 --> 00:02:13,100 just looking at the word and the motion. 43 00:02:21,620 --> 00:02:23,020 I don't feel like doing that. 44 00:02:24,500 --> 00:02:30,960 And I think you had made a comment as potential rewarding of it. 45 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:36,040 That could be operated on an interim budget while, which I'll not have seen the previous 46 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,720 year's budget because that's really what we're looking to do. 47 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:44,640 It is that we would have whatever a bottom line number is by common is what we're going 48 00:02:44,640 --> 00:02:48,080 to begin our budget operating ship. 49 00:02:48,740 --> 00:02:53,880 Absolutely, if I can have the floor for a minute, when I saw this, I was in shock, because 50 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:59,060 this says, basically, we're going to do exactly what we did in the last year. 51 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:04,780 And the wording of the law for the interim budget doesn't say we have to do exactly what 52 00:03:04,780 --> 00:03:05,640 we did before. 53 00:03:06,380 --> 00:03:13,020 It says, basically, that the bottom line can't be any greater than what you spent before. 54 00:03:14,780 --> 00:03:17,020 but operate under last year's budget. 55 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:21,920 And the problem with last year's budget is it doesn't accommodate some of the things 56 00:03:21,920 --> 00:03:26,540 that we would like to do, even though we don't have extra money, we still would like 57 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:33,720 to honor our requirements in terms of the union contracts, in terms of what we pay our employees. 58 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:39,020 And if we kept the lines the same, we couldn't pay them any more than we paid the last year. 59 00:03:39,020 --> 00:03:47,000 You know, whatever it is, whether it's health insurance or oil or anything would be condemned, 60 00:03:47,260 --> 00:03:52,520 just spending exactly what we spent last year, which really absolutely won't work. 61 00:03:53,560 --> 00:03:59,980 So, I would like to probably make an amendment, but I would like to go even further to the problem 62 00:03:59,980 --> 00:04:07,220 that I have with this is though we want to see changes, I would like to know what those changes you're going to be 63 00:04:07,220 --> 00:04:10,320 before we, I mean, adopting an interim budget, 64 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:11,980 we don't even have to adopt it. 65 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,240 The logic says we can operate under an interim budget. 66 00:04:15,300 --> 00:04:16,860 We don't need to adopt that. 67 00:04:17,260 --> 00:04:19,140 What I would like to see is to, 68 00:04:19,140 --> 00:04:22,320 is adopt whatever it is that use the strategies 69 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:26,000 that we're planning on using to make up those changed lines. 70 00:04:27,020 --> 00:04:30,540 If we have to say, OK, because we're 71 00:04:30,540 --> 00:04:32,560 going to be spending more for our employees, 72 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:36,920 we're not going to be able to spend it on whatever it is. 73 00:04:36,920 --> 00:04:41,120 you know, a contractor who's doing work for us. 74 00:04:41,300 --> 00:04:47,120 At least for the first few months, I just would like to have us have some knowledge of what 75 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,420 it's going to be rather than just saying, oh, go ahead and do it. 76 00:04:50,840 --> 00:04:55,900 I mean, I think that's what our fiscal responsibility is to make sure that it happened. 77 00:04:56,480 --> 00:05:01,800 So the problem I have with the point, proving this at all is not really approving the budget 78 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:05,760 we're just saying it's okay to have an interim budget without changing anything. 79 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:10,900 So, though we could change the wording of this and that would be fine, it's not a little 80 00:05:10,900 --> 00:05:14,440 way I would like to see us do, if that makes sense. 81 00:05:15,620 --> 00:05:16,040 All right, great. 82 00:05:16,340 --> 00:05:18,000 Well, a couple of questions. 83 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:23,840 Number one, we can't spend any more than we spent in 2025. 84 00:05:24,940 --> 00:05:25,080 Correct. 85 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:31,780 But if we are secure in the fact that we are going to have a 2020 six-budget 86 00:05:31,780 --> 00:05:40,820 later this year, that would allow us to increase the pay and take care of the contracts and 87 00:05:40,820 --> 00:05:45,700 insurance and things like that, and hoping that we don't run out of money in October. 88 00:05:46,540 --> 00:05:48,520 That's not just going to be responsible for the high end. 89 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:52,020 And there's the kind of levels that we have to get here. 90 00:05:52,340 --> 00:05:55,040 We have a lot of levels that have to be good enough. 91 00:05:55,540 --> 00:05:59,440 We can't be sure that we're going to have more money to make sure that. 92 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:05,120 So in that case, do we have the funds that we spend in other things last year? 93 00:06:05,260 --> 00:06:06,600 Do we know where those are coming from? 94 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:08,080 The transfer of two little around. 95 00:06:09,300 --> 00:06:12,880 Because that's a question you're asking, where are we getting? 96 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,700 We're not asking where we're getting the money, because that comes from taxes. 97 00:06:17,280 --> 00:06:18,240 No, no, no, no, no. 98 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:22,980 But one way is we're transferring it from what line to what line? 99 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:27,100 Right, apart from what we've certainly had the ability to move money around. 100 00:06:28,840 --> 00:06:47,580 But my question to care, my question to Kathy would be in looking at all the budgets, is there enough money to move around from last year's budget to take care of people in charge for people come first rather than things or something like that? 101 00:06:47,940 --> 00:06:52,960 Do we have the money available to us to take care of those changes? 102 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,700 Yes, I know. 103 00:07:00,140 --> 00:07:08,140 I will say, and I'm excluding corrections from any of my comments, because that's a movie 104 00:07:08,140 --> 00:07:14,160 target, and that's still the work done, so everything I'm saying does not include them. 105 00:07:14,660 --> 00:07:21,940 The half of our departments could cover the increase for 26 to include the health insurance 106 00:07:22,700 --> 00:07:27,640 change. And they can cover it from various ways that they've had changes in 107 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:29,940 personnel that may have been at lower stuff. 108 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:40,160 The last year, people have dropped insurance that had insurance. A lot of different moving costs in any recent revenue projected versus what they had last year. 109 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:49,740 But half of the payments don't have a mechanism to cover. They can cover partially. I will use my answer as an example. 110 00:07:49,740 --> 00:07:58,620 So if I eliminate my open timeline, meals are my literary investment in training, I can 111 00:07:58,620 --> 00:08:02,660 cover a piece of it, I can't cover all of it. 112 00:08:03,220 --> 00:08:05,780 And what can you do, parents, are in that same situation? 113 00:08:07,180 --> 00:08:14,560 I'm going to ask, and that's because one of the things that I learned about the county is 114 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:21,120 We basically are a government to provide services through the people we have. 115 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:28,420 We don't do things as much as the town's do, as much as we, you know, basically people 116 00:08:28,420 --> 00:08:33,240 oriented, and those people provide services, so that's why there's not money to move around. 117 00:08:33,860 --> 00:08:37,240 There's not buying new cloud products and things I've got to do. 118 00:08:37,460 --> 00:08:44,540 Correct, that physical purchases that can be delayed are pretty small percentage of budget 119 00:08:45,980 --> 00:08:51,800 So, computers, things like that, we wouldn't be moving forward with those would be on delay. 120 00:08:52,940 --> 00:08:57,160 Capital purchases, like vehicles for the Sharks Office would be in delay, so that wouldn't be 121 00:08:57,160 --> 00:08:57,680 back to it. 122 00:08:58,820 --> 00:09:03,660 But we don't have a lot of those purchases, that's my understanding. 123 00:09:04,740 --> 00:09:11,320 So, when I'm looking at all of the departments, 124 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,940 if we move forward with increases, we are 125 00:09:16,940 --> 00:09:24,440 potentially about 308,000 uncovered, meaning that we at this particular time don't have 126 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,600 a means to cover it. 127 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:36,380 Now, I think that we could reduce that some by going to line item by line item and making very hot choices. 128 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:39,340 Do I think that we could cover all of it? 129 00:09:39,680 --> 00:09:42,500 No, the biggest piece of that is communications. 130 00:09:43,580 --> 00:09:47,020 Communication alone is 206 of that. 131 00:09:48,420 --> 00:09:51,760 And that doesn't tell a lot of variation in that. 132 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:53,000 No, it's all people. 133 00:09:53,000 --> 00:10:04,900 It's people, and then it's contracts, it's towers, it's maintenance for towers, that very small percentage is training meals supplies that could be very low. 134 00:10:07,060 --> 00:10:18,240 We do have a building lease that we have in 25 that we won't have in 26, which is $67,000, which could help to offset that. 135 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:24,600 We also have from a capital perspective, we have 1951,000, that was for share of vehicles. 136 00:10:25,180 --> 00:10:31,640 But I say that with a caveat that they may be already anticipating you using that money to cover 137 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:35,560 their overtime, which they're very much overspent in 25. 138 00:10:36,860 --> 00:10:42,700 So on paper, that looks like that's available, but they may have it factor in other places. 139 00:10:42,700 --> 00:10:51,440 So, that leads to my question knowing what it would like to accomplish, we don't have the funds for it right now. 140 00:10:52,100 --> 00:11:02,960 The only option you have, in order to move forward is to, I will use the word exact, that they may be issued on, and that would have to come from undescalated. 141 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:08,840 If we don't get a 26 budget, we don't get approval of a 26 budget. 142 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:16,540 You know, making a decision to move forward, and that if we can't as we continue plugging away 143 00:11:16,540 --> 00:11:23,440 things that we can put on hold or eliminate, that we would then fund the difference from 144 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:24,940 undecided the end of the year. 145 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:28,340 And do we have enough in undecided funds to do that? 146 00:11:28,500 --> 00:11:35,620 Right now, from a general fund, undecided, and we are at 10%, we like to be at 20. 147 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:44,980 I'm hoping that we're going to end 25 at least 14 or 15 percent, so I'm hoping we're going to be having more than that. 148 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:49,420 The challenge that we run into is communications isn't going to have enough designated. 149 00:11:50,860 --> 00:11:59,120 And the only way that we can legally help them with any overage is to use continuously. 150 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:08,700 So there's options, it's just their hard choice to make it. 151 00:12:11,270 --> 00:12:15,570 Is there a way to do this as a six month budget? 152 00:12:16,590 --> 00:12:19,250 I mean, because we're adopting it whatever we want at this point. 153 00:12:19,930 --> 00:12:24,710 We're basically just accepting an interim budget and aiming for something. 154 00:12:26,130 --> 00:12:30,570 The question is, we're aiming for a certain number halfway to the year. 155 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:37,700 And if we can do it based on halfway and at works, then we know what we can do the rest of the year. 156 00:12:37,940 --> 00:12:40,280 We're hopeful we don't have to go to hell if we're on your own. 157 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:44,740 But at least the six months will allow us to do it, we do that. 158 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:49,020 Jockey in and still give everybody and give us an idea at the end of that. 159 00:12:49,020 --> 00:12:53,180 What our contingency or our undesignating fund would be. 160 00:12:53,260 --> 00:12:56,200 I mean, is that a way to go back or should we be thinking about the whole year? 161 00:12:56,200 --> 00:13:06,260 I'm not exactly, so you're suggesting we'll be forward to 26 increases for six months versus a full year. 162 00:13:06,700 --> 00:13:11,240 No, I'm just talking about keeping the bottom line the same. 163 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:12,280 Yeah, only 25. 164 00:13:13,060 --> 00:13:13,120 Yeah. 165 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:18,200 But doing their changes that we think we can do for the first half of the year. 166 00:13:19,680 --> 00:13:23,040 You know, and then worrying about the second half if we have to change that, 167 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,160 And we adopt whatever we need with that. 168 00:13:27,580 --> 00:13:37,460 I think we need to move forward with direction to department managers as far as what their spending 169 00:13:37,460 --> 00:13:45,180 looks like, which would be minimal, only necessary spending, that even though overtime may 170 00:13:45,180 --> 00:13:51,660 be needed in departments, that it should be minimized, because that's a big line item. 171 00:13:51,660 --> 00:13:58,580 That, as I'm saying, that that's easier to send than done because there's still work that needs to happen. 172 00:13:58,660 --> 00:14:00,420 This will shift that need to be covered. 173 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:06,040 So that's a variable, but it also has a direct impact on comments by saying, 174 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,000 we need you to just to minimize that spending. 175 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,660 And then as we go along, we can evaluate. 176 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:16,340 And then we may need to take even hotter choices. 177 00:14:17,180 --> 00:14:23,760 when we're hitting first quarter, and we're not where we think we should be, then we may be into, 178 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:28,460 I'll say, canceling a contract if we feel like the 26th budget isn't moving forward. 179 00:14:29,640 --> 00:14:34,400 As I sort of why I'm talking about a six-month thing, is so that we can, at that point say, 180 00:14:34,460 --> 00:14:39,140 oh, we have to make even harder choices, or it's not as bad, or we do have to go. 181 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:41,560 So I don't know if that makes any sense. 182 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:56,060 I'll check in quarterly, whether we check in quarterly, that we make sure, you know, I just want to find a mechanism that expands it's going to be, we can sort of not get quite a whole thing on it right away. 183 00:14:57,820 --> 00:14:59,980 We're definitely up. I mean this is a very... 184 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:07,580 I'd also ask the auditors to move up our audit so that we have a better idea of where we're going to end this year. 185 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:21,820 Normally, we keep our year open until, let's say, the end of February to make sure we capture all 25 expenses we have to cut that off paper, just because we're in a very difficult situation. 186 00:15:21,820 --> 00:15:30,360 So let me just want to second, I want to thank you, and county administration for making sure that we have an audit every year. 187 00:15:30,540 --> 00:15:36,020 I believe that some of the problems that some of the counties now is they haven't had an audit every year. 188 00:15:36,460 --> 00:15:41,040 So we do know exactly where we stand and if we move that ahead, it's even better. 189 00:15:42,060 --> 00:15:45,500 Because my analysis in the audit is our and how much work it takes. 190 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:49,900 They may not be able to move it up ahead, but at least we're moving in that direction. 191 00:15:49,900 --> 00:15:55,060 So thank you very much for being on top of that, just okay, now whatever you can say. 192 00:15:55,180 --> 00:15:55,880 I have a question. 193 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:57,820 I have a question across that they will continue. 194 00:15:58,060 --> 00:16:00,480 I mean, as of right now, we're scheduled for 25. 195 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:04,680 I feel, pardon me, the reason I need to rep sometimes when somebody's up, 196 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,480 is not because I have more of the web things to say. 197 00:16:08,100 --> 00:16:12,720 I'm old, and my memory doesn't use in the last to the second sentence. 198 00:16:13,180 --> 00:16:14,620 So I blur things out. 199 00:16:15,220 --> 00:16:15,600 You don't mind. 200 00:16:16,460 --> 00:16:17,720 You're going to say hi. 201 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,240 I hope I didn't, I hope you could sort of have been. 202 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,880 I have that same one about my question, and I'd like my question, and I'd rather 203 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:28,420 have somewhat humorous than helpful for you, is if you were foolish enough to be a peer 204 00:16:28,420 --> 00:16:31,160 instead of one of us, what would be your recommendation? 205 00:16:33,940 --> 00:16:34,840 That's not fair. 206 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:36,020 That's not fair. 207 00:16:36,020 --> 00:16:40,280 That's not fair, because I have to look at it from a different perspective than you do. 208 00:16:40,500 --> 00:16:40,920 I know. 209 00:16:42,220 --> 00:16:47,440 And what I think is risk, I can't answer that. 210 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:53,720 Okay, because you have more knowledge than we are here. We're going to have about this. 211 00:16:54,020 --> 00:17:06,480 I will say that right now we, if nothing else happens, then I say that if. And, um, we have enough 212 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:13,220 in undeserving the cover on paper what it looks like. We would be sure to move forward to 26. 213 00:17:13,220 --> 00:17:21,360 that leaves us at risk of really diminishing what's in undesignated way below what 214 00:17:21,360 --> 00:17:27,880 a conference on it. Is that that includes making some of those hard choices 215 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:32,260 beforehand cutting some of that stuff? We're still having that. It's not like we're 216 00:17:32,260 --> 00:17:36,500 going to go ahead with the poll. 2026 on a designated balance. 217 00:17:38,510 --> 00:17:40,370 If I understood that 218 00:17:40,370 --> 00:17:46,550 on paper is kind of worst-case scenario and hoping that as we continue working with 219 00:17:46,550 --> 00:17:51,830 to common managers but you know also in order to make this really work all 220 00:17:51,830 --> 00:17:57,250 department managers have to be on board to support each other that if we have 221 00:17:57,250 --> 00:18:03,250 departments that are larger that want to be a silo and only take care of what 222 00:18:03,250 --> 00:18:08,810 their department needs are this is going to work because we have supporting 223 00:18:08,810 --> 00:18:16,250 comments that have no mechanism to reduce further than a very small percentage, and we can't 224 00:18:16,250 --> 00:18:16,810 come ourselves. 225 00:18:17,130 --> 00:18:18,830 But we're supporting the bigger comments. 226 00:18:19,830 --> 00:18:26,590 I mean, I'm hearing what you're saying, and I also was coming at this thinking it would 227 00:18:26,590 --> 00:18:32,130 really be nice to have at least the first quarter for us to take a look at, but if I understand 228 00:18:32,130 --> 00:18:38,790 what you're saying, it seems like it doesn't make sense to do it. 229 00:18:38,790 --> 00:18:45,670 or six months because you really need to take the full context of the year into account to have an 230 00:18:45,670 --> 00:18:51,570 accurate assessment of what this is going to do to the overall budget. So it sounds like it does 231 00:18:51,570 --> 00:18:57,890 not for my perspective. It makes sense to do those shorter turns and it does sound like 232 00:18:58,610 --> 00:19:04,430 department heads are going to be thinking about this probably 24 hours a day until we have a 233 00:19:05,970 --> 00:19:14,290 So in the future, what I would like to see happen is I would like to have a report out 234 00:19:14,290 --> 00:19:20,210 at every meeting that we have from you and I'd like all the department has to be here 235 00:19:20,210 --> 00:19:26,510 for those meetings just to give us an update on where things stand as we're working our way 236 00:19:26,510 --> 00:19:33,690 through this because if we can't have a clear picture from the outset, we at least all need to be 237 00:19:33,690 --> 00:19:42,810 on the same page going forward, and it gives us an opportunity to say who, like, is there anyone who is not being a team player in this? 238 00:19:43,490 --> 00:19:49,910 We need to understand that and make sure that everybody is on a team and working forward together. 239 00:19:50,770 --> 00:20:00,630 So, and if we need to, if once a month is not enough, which it may not be, then maybe we need to have some special meetings in between, 240 00:20:00,630 --> 00:20:07,370 so that we, as a body, are staying on top of things as they change and develop, that we, 241 00:20:07,510 --> 00:20:14,010 you know, to me that feels like sort of a compromise to having an actual budget that we can 242 00:20:14,010 --> 00:20:19,930 work from, that we're at least being informed on a very regular basis about what things stand. 243 00:20:20,330 --> 00:20:22,890 I don't know how this sounds. 244 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:35,900 Which is why I would like to see us have a little bit more contact before with a different 245 00:20:35,900 --> 00:20:36,320 apartment. 246 00:20:36,540 --> 00:20:44,200 Which you described is almost a policy thing is no, every apartment is not separate from 247 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:49,760 every other apartment we were working together on this budget and this problem and I would 248 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,900 like all of the department hints. 249 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:53,820 So no, that's why I say what I'd like to see 250 00:20:53,820 --> 00:20:56,240 what the strategies are, whether we're just 251 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:58,120 cross from public department department. 252 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:02,360 So we know who's playing what position is it for. 253 00:21:04,020 --> 00:21:05,960 Rather than just say, after the first month, 254 00:21:06,040 --> 00:21:08,060 oh, you can do what you're supposed to do. 255 00:21:08,300 --> 00:21:10,740 I'd like everybody to know before we do this, 256 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:12,360 exactly what everybody's supposed to do. 257 00:21:12,360 --> 00:21:15,340 Does everybody knows beforehand that their department 258 00:21:15,340 --> 00:21:19,160 is, unfortunately, because they have more things 259 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:23,500 they spend their money on, that they're going to be curtailed to help out another department. 260 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:29,180 And so I would really like us because this is our financial responsibility. 261 00:21:29,220 --> 00:21:32,720 You have a vending grasp of what different departments you're doing. 262 00:21:33,120 --> 00:21:38,240 As I say, the strategies that we're taking, and now they have to the fact that before it happened. 263 00:21:39,420 --> 00:21:44,720 I mean, that's, I like, Morgan's idea of having the department and it's in the meeting, 264 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:56,560 So that if certainly to start off with in January, so that we can get a handle on it through all work and together or it is something to not. 265 00:21:56,900 --> 00:21:59,060 And what the strategy is to answer. 266 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:00,980 I think it's a great idea. 267 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:09,400 I will, for our, like, deeds is projecting that they have revenue for 26 will be higher than 25 which will help all of us. 268 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:09,720 Yeah. 269 00:22:10,500 --> 00:22:10,660 Right. 270 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:11,960 And it's a projection. 271 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:40,820 Has a big impact on the agenda item? Sheriff's department has a very big budget, understandably, so there's a lot of variation there. 272 00:22:44,280 --> 00:23:00,820 And I wish I had to see if that's what I was trying to draw a focus. I don't want to speak for them, but if we're saying we need over time immunize, that may mean that there's something in that department that needs to change that would have an impact in some capacity. 273 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:07,040 I won't point it was mentioned that maybe control of certain would need to stop. 274 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:15,320 I don't want to speak for them, but just as an example of in what if for them to do business as usual they need XMOM money. 275 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:20,820 We're saying we really need you to operate with last. What does that mean for them? 276 00:23:21,860 --> 00:23:29,640 Similar to finance, if you can't think of my overtime, it is going to be a struggle to meet their requirements to get ready for an audit. 277 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:35,820 We'll get there, but now it's going to come more on me instead of a team atmosphere and getting there. 278 00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:40,560 You know, but we'll get there, but there is impact of these decisions. 279 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:42,520 Yeah. 280 00:23:42,900 --> 00:23:46,480 I mean, we apologize that this is where we are. 281 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:50,600 You know, unfortunately, it's just... 282 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:51,200 It's temporary. 283 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:52,360 It's hopefully temporary. 284 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:57,940 Hopefully next year's budget won't be going up 25% to make up for this. 285 00:23:59,460 --> 00:24:06,620 But we'll have to go up in a whatever it is, five or eight percent just to make up for what we need to do in the next year. 286 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:16,100 And so the unfortunate problem here is we're talking about two or three different budgets all at the same time. 287 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:25,300 We're also talking about if we do get to improve the real budget in the future, what's that kind of look like at the same time. 288 00:24:25,300 --> 00:24:31,460 We're not going to, even if we, if we get more money on getting the opportunity to have another budget, 289 00:24:31,460 --> 00:24:34,640 we're certainly not going to just keep this into the budget. 290 00:24:35,260 --> 00:24:37,200 That's going to have to be watched on. 291 00:24:37,460 --> 00:24:42,220 And so the question is, you know, how long is it going to take us to put that budget in the place, too? 292 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:43,280 Right. 293 00:24:43,740 --> 00:24:46,820 And if we move forward to the 26th year, you're created. 294 00:24:48,380 --> 00:24:52,820 You've already approved something that the budget committee has to approve along with you. 295 00:24:52,820 --> 00:25:00,140 Although they don't approve based on line items per se, but we have moved forward with a decision 296 00:25:00,140 --> 00:25:02,000 excluding them from our decision. 297 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:08,780 So I have a question about if at some point we have a 26 question we can put together. 298 00:25:09,780 --> 00:25:15,620 Normally that would have been done already and the towns would have to be prepared to pay it. 299 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:22,800 What happens if we come to them in June and say, okay now we've got our new 300 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,280 budget, and here's your bill for what, you know, as services. 301 00:25:27,500 --> 00:25:30,380 It's going to be a difficult world for them as well. 302 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:31,140 I would imagine. 303 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,740 I would imagine that also when I would hopefully 304 00:25:34,740 --> 00:25:37,560 would have an idea, I first 305 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,760 or as far as when we would have something to them, 306 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,800 and Chelsea had pulled together information 307 00:25:43,360 --> 00:25:46,000 as far as when the towns go to townboat 308 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,980 so that we're aware of those dates, 309 00:25:49,500 --> 00:25:52,640 and I would hope that maybe there's some level of flexibility 310 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:59,640 that if we don't have our information, so I'm afraid they may be able to push their vote forward a little bit, 311 00:26:00,580 --> 00:26:05,740 or if not making a assumption of what we're going to need from that. 312 00:26:06,660 --> 00:26:07,500 Yeah, it's going to be tough. 313 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:12,600 Because I know that the candidate, but you may be in this month of April usually, 314 00:26:13,220 --> 00:26:18,560 and they vote for June, but they need to prepare for it, because I'm involved in that still. 315 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:39,520 So, just trying to think beyond just our walls and make sure that the downs, we need to communicate with them really well about to their prepared for and increase as we get to, hopefully, money, something we will be able to get into, just thinking ahead of a little bit. 316 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:49,560 And I think just looking at both sides of the point that employees are anxious and waiting to hear what direction they would go in. 317 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:54,960 Just because it has been mixed messages because we have been in such area of flux. 318 00:26:55,900 --> 00:27:04,980 So I think just a decision to answer that they know obviously morale is a good going through a lot, which is a factor of a lot of people. 319 00:27:04,980 --> 00:27:14,380 The other side of that is the public facing of that we do not have a 26 budget but we're moving forward to 26 to increase this potential. 320 00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:23,380 Again, for my perspective, people are more important than things and rather see people get what they need. 321 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:31,380 And we're going to try out Beth's to come or I'll be last down about that and it's going to be a lot of work and it's going to be painful for 322 00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:39,100 managers more than others, but hopefully we can minimize the impact to employees. 323 00:27:40,060 --> 00:27:45,560 Well, it's important that this is not a job, you know, like to be for self-saving and management. 324 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:53,140 You know, it's not a job you take in the expectation that it's always going to be good and you happy and you've got to respond. 325 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:59,540 And we have to be prepared for tough times, and that's why people become managers. 326 00:28:02,980 --> 00:28:10,040 We will get through this and hopefully we'll get through it nicely, but it's a tough time right now. 327 00:28:13,360 --> 00:28:22,800 One other issue I have with the language of this motion is it says until the 2026 budget is finalized. 328 00:28:23,900 --> 00:28:25,940 And we don't know that it will be. 329 00:28:27,900 --> 00:28:38,140 So, I think I'm okay with approving these of the 2025 adoptive budget as the keys in term operating budget, 330 00:28:38,140 --> 00:28:44,140 We're getting January 1st, 2026, based on what Kathy has started to us and I hope. 331 00:28:45,300 --> 00:28:47,120 I think that I want to change the language. 332 00:28:50,340 --> 00:28:51,700 That's a little less difficult. 333 00:28:54,740 --> 00:28:55,840 You can do it in the japan. 334 00:28:56,180 --> 00:28:56,840 Maybe the thing in the middle. 335 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:58,580 Until the new budget is approved. 336 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:03,720 Because if we can't pull it to 26, then we've potentially going to be operating on 25 through 20. 337 00:29:04,060 --> 00:29:04,480 Yeah. 338 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:05,140 Go ahead for a bit. 339 00:29:05,260 --> 00:29:05,500 Yeah. 340 00:29:05,620 --> 00:29:07,540 I would say until the new budget is approved. 341 00:29:11,620 --> 00:29:14,520 I think you should make an amendment and we should go on that. 342 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:20,680 I see. But again, I think this thing, by saying we're going to do what four are says we're going to do. 343 00:29:22,140 --> 00:29:23,020 Business redundancy. 344 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:24,160 So we don't need to do that. 345 00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:26,200 And I don't know the other to need it. 346 00:29:26,460 --> 00:29:32,040 When I say you have proof of budget, I would like to approve the strategy that we're talking about. 347 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:34,560 You know, with the different departments, you know, 348 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:40,560 There's some basic idea that says what we're really planning on doing. 349 00:29:40,740 --> 00:29:45,380 That would be the budget I would vote in favor of, and again, I don't know if they have to do it. 350 00:29:45,420 --> 00:29:46,760 I would like to do it now. 351 00:29:47,420 --> 00:29:53,080 I would like to do it in the early January, at least everybody knows what we're standing on. 352 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,440 I don't want to make it so much work to do. 353 00:29:56,440 --> 00:29:59,820 is now putting in all this over time to snuck in. 354 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:10,640 But it really should be one of individual meetings with the county administrator myself and the time advantageous to kind of talk through, because sometimes you just need to act things around. 355 00:30:12,060 --> 00:30:14,280 But I think we can work towards that. 356 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:20,700 So if you want to make the amendment or if you throw it down in a way it is okay, it is 357 00:30:20,700 --> 00:30:21,120 worth it. 358 00:30:21,140 --> 00:30:24,320 I'm not going to put it down, or do you want a table? 359 00:30:25,380 --> 00:30:27,020 Um, table is fine. 360 00:30:27,260 --> 00:30:28,780 It's been a month or a month. 361 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:33,540 Table it to the next month if you want to, other wording that we want to amend it at that 362 00:30:33,540 --> 00:30:33,860 point. 363 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:34,300 Yes. 364 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:35,620 I think that's good enough. 365 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:36,320 What do you think? 366 00:30:36,460 --> 00:30:36,740 I don't know. 367 00:30:36,740 --> 00:30:36,840 that. 368 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:42,240 So, somebody made a commercial, I'll make a commercial, and I'll make a commercial 369 00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:46,740 in that we table. Listen to the J&R. I'll second. The more J&R, the more J&R. 370 00:30:48,260 --> 00:30:51,940 Any discussion, I think we've already discussed a table again? 371 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,220 All those are better? I mean 372 00:30:57,220 --> 00:31:04,180 every nine of those. And that leaves the end, too. The second action, I don't know. One of 373 00:31:04,180 --> 00:31:14,180 This is why we wanted to do that, which is an act of prioritizing the continuation of scheduled CPI in the step of justice during the interim budget period. 374 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:16,140 Good afternoon. 375 00:31:16,980 --> 00:31:17,560 Thank you. 376 00:31:18,060 --> 00:31:18,220 Second. 377 00:31:19,980 --> 00:31:23,000 Because I think that's exactly what we're trying to do here. 378 00:31:23,260 --> 00:31:25,580 Make sure that that's our big priority. 379 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,900 I think we want everybody to know that that's our goal. 380 00:31:32,540 --> 00:31:40,200 And have the administration and finance use that as a guide for where we want and so that everybody 381 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,880 can staff knows that that's what we're trying to do here. 382 00:31:44,540 --> 00:31:47,980 Trying to do what you're voting, yes, to do that as a engineering person. 383 00:31:48,260 --> 00:31:53,560 We don't know what you're going to throw at us, whether there really is the money to do it or not. 384 00:31:53,560 --> 00:32:10,440 And so, if you find it, yes, that we want that will be what we approve, but until we know for sure that you take this money there, I don't want to hamper everybody and say, oh, you're going to definitely do this. 385 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:11,840 Well, we don't know what it's possible. 386 00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,020 Well, it's the language's priority. 387 00:32:15,340 --> 00:32:15,900 Yes. 388 00:32:16,460 --> 00:32:17,880 So it's not. 389 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:24,240 Well, we need to make it to because right now, these steps would start to change you plan. 390 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:30,860 You're going to set that using the contingency in all the different funds. 391 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:32,820 You believe you can make it. 392 00:32:33,020 --> 00:32:37,080 It would put us in a very thin margin, but you believe you can do it. 393 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,100 So we need to make a decision when we head with it. 394 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:42,340 Yeah, we can't postpone it anymore. 395 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:51,060 Well, you've cut, so, again, looking at all the departments and not just based on conversations 396 00:32:51,060 --> 00:32:58,800 that there's 300,000 that on paper we wouldn't be able to cover right now, not excluding 397 00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,040 corrections again. I can't say that at all. 398 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:09,720 We can't always put in 26 increases at any time 399 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:11,560 and retrovacive, that's what you choose. 400 00:33:12,540 --> 00:33:14,760 It's just that employees are, 401 00:33:15,260 --> 00:33:17,980 is this going to happen for me January 1st? 402 00:33:18,300 --> 00:33:20,780 Is this going to potentially happen later? 403 00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:22,600 What does this look like for me? 404 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:27,520 So I think that's what we're asking right now 405 00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:31,980 is that our employees going to get this 26 increase January 1st 406 00:33:31,980 --> 00:33:34,580 are going to depend to a future meeting 407 00:33:34,580 --> 00:33:36,100 to continue this discussion. 408 00:33:38,670 --> 00:33:40,370 I don't know what else we discussed. 409 00:33:40,370 --> 00:33:44,830 and what we discussed down until we know what's happening in the 26th. 410 00:33:45,250 --> 00:33:46,630 I mean, 411 00:33:49,950 --> 00:33:52,870 I mean, I think she wants more strong 412 00:33:52,870 --> 00:33:54,910 awarding than just prioritise. 413 00:33:55,130 --> 00:34:00,610 Correct. I mean, I think the reason I want to rock prioritise is I want to give 414 00:34:00,610 --> 00:34:06,910 you, I want to give administration the authority basically to make this happen 415 00:34:06,910 --> 00:34:12,030 wherever you think it's going to happen. But I don't want that here for you and say, 416 00:34:12,210 --> 00:34:16,810 oh, you've got to do this and this is the way to do it. I want to give you the lead way to do it, 417 00:34:16,930 --> 00:34:23,330 the way that you and administration feel as best to do it. If you'd like more guidance than that, 418 00:34:23,390 --> 00:34:31,950 we can change it from prioritized to whatever the best way to what's the best work. 419 00:34:33,390 --> 00:34:45,930 I'm still a little fuzzy on the way you just said that, so I guess that I don't think that this is an administrative decision as to whether to move forward with the 26th increases. 420 00:34:46,190 --> 00:34:58,150 I think that's a commission decision to either say yes move forward as a January 1st or I want to hand this decision to a future date when I have additional information. 421 00:34:58,150 --> 00:35:03,690 And because that's what employees are looking, they need to know what's going to happen with us. 422 00:35:03,890 --> 00:35:10,210 I think the wording should be act to authorize the intanguation of scheduled CBI during 423 00:35:10,210 --> 00:35:11,590 the hour of the weeks. 424 00:35:11,850 --> 00:35:16,830 Step adjustment stirring the interim budget gradient, because that's what that's good to do. 425 00:35:17,290 --> 00:35:22,310 So the other thing I'm trying, that can be, that can be, that will, or maybe have a better 426 00:35:22,310 --> 00:35:22,910 credit wording. 427 00:35:23,050 --> 00:35:23,910 No, that's fine. 428 00:35:24,530 --> 00:35:28,130 I think I'm going to step back a little bit from why I just said about being right 429 00:35:28,130 --> 00:35:34,650 to vote on this today. The only thing that gives me hesitation and makes me want to wait until 430 00:35:34,650 --> 00:35:40,310 January is I want to hear from the sheriff because we're hearing from counties perspective 431 00:35:40,310 --> 00:35:48,770 that were 300,000 over with an out the sheriff's budget. Is that what I'm saying? Without corrections. 432 00:35:48,770 --> 00:35:59,830 Oh, with that perspective, the sheriff's appointment is in this piece corrections isn't, but we would have a better idea 433 00:35:59,830 --> 00:36:10,010 by January, all the individuals and corrections would be where they're going to be, all the decisions of policies as to what's happening with employees. 434 00:36:10,010 --> 00:36:18,650 Plus, I would think that that point there was a better idea of what contracts I was staying in place and what on from a corrections perspective. 435 00:36:20,530 --> 00:36:24,250 With that information, then I'm still inclined to wait until January. 436 00:36:24,890 --> 00:36:33,530 And have the share I can capture would here to fill us in on where things stand as it relates to every all the work that you love. 437 00:36:33,530 --> 00:36:37,830 But then it would have to be retroactive. 438 00:36:37,830 --> 00:36:46,930 And I think as I would like to take the department managers, we'll know that our intent is to do this. 439 00:36:47,550 --> 00:36:52,610 But we just need to be responsible and have more information before we get this decision. 440 00:36:53,330 --> 00:37:02,770 I think that's very fair that I think you've said it very well that employees just need to feel that you're taking this very certain opportunity. 441 00:37:02,770 --> 00:37:11,910 But you are prioritizing this and that will make our unique January 1st that we are hoping that we can do this and then 442 00:37:11,910 --> 00:37:15,770 ruptured back and that we will be able to accommodate that. 443 00:37:16,430 --> 00:37:28,830 In the meantime, we could be having some very serious department manager meetings to talk through the impacts and what we need from each other to make this all work. 444 00:37:28,830 --> 00:37:29,910 two things, number one. 445 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:34,100 Next schedule meeting would be to 13th of January. That's the second Tuesday. 446 00:37:35,060 --> 00:37:38,640 So here we go. That will be out of town in the Tuesday, before or something. 447 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:40,220 Can't repeat or before that. 448 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,880 And then they may need that time. You may need that time. 449 00:37:44,720 --> 00:37:46,420 You wouldn't want to do it earlier necessarily. 450 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:52,560 I would say no. I mean, we are trying for a lot of people, managers, especially to take some time on. 451 00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:54,240 Yes. That's right. 452 00:37:54,720 --> 00:37:58,360 And give that a little bit of breathing room fee, or we kind of dive back into this. 453 00:37:58,360 --> 00:38:02,020 on the 5th or 13th to be elected. 454 00:38:02,260 --> 00:38:07,180 One other thing I want to say, there's been the way the process 455 00:38:07,180 --> 00:38:10,700 report changes with the corrections department. 456 00:38:11,900 --> 00:38:15,040 And I want to make sure all the employees know that they keep 457 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:21,640 turning it as it's making the change because we don't have a 26 458 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:25,640 budget and that's not why the change is happening. 459 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:36,980 change is happening because it's a financial decision to go to a better facility to make sure that we don't need to put 460 00:38:36,980 --> 00:38:48,060 $50 or $100 million in the prison in short term. It saves this long-term money. It's a better situation, hopefully, for a lot of people. 461 00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:54,980 But it's not based that we, the misnomer said it's not, we're not doing this because we didn't have a 26 budget. 462 00:38:54,980 --> 00:39:01,080 We would have been done anyway, and people need to understand the other departments, so we're not looking to, 463 00:39:01,180 --> 00:39:03,780 we need one way to explain the other department. 464 00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:11,520 That's not what that was about, and the process has never been clear about that in the recording. 465 00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:16,440 And that may be our fault that we never articulated that clear enough. 466 00:39:17,900 --> 00:39:24,960 But we care about all the people, and I don't foresee changes in any department. 467 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:32,440 or that we need to do last because of this, you know, we have to do the same for people. 468 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:34,040 That's my perspective. 469 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:40,700 I just want to clarify about prioritized versus authorized. 470 00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:42,960 I am, and I'm prioritized. 471 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:50,180 However, I think that the cacking others need decisive photographs. 472 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:53,400 So that's why I can't. 473 00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:58,340 of the rise and it's fine but that's I'd like to wait until January so I 474 00:39:58,340 --> 00:40:04,020 again I'm lying to table that's again have the meaning in January let's hear 475 00:40:04,020 --> 00:40:10,340 from folks at that point particularly corrections you think everybody's gonna get 476 00:40:10,340 --> 00:40:23,360 the message if we vote this don't vote on this now that that won't be 477 00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:30,520 I would have thought that message was out there already this is we've been talking about this for a couple of months now and every time 478 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:35,280 We've talked about it. We said no, if you want to do is make sure we honor those things 479 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:41,160 So that the message hasn't gotten out so far it has but it's Elis and writing until they hear 480 00:40:44,980 --> 00:40:48,200 From Austin writing they've heard it from you 481 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,640 along, right. Thanks a lot. Well, sorry. 482 00:40:55,980 --> 00:41:00,020 That's a lot of people don't come up with meeting with a record yet, and it's on the left side. 483 00:41:00,940 --> 00:41:03,860 So that can't be, or you okay with that as well. 484 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:14,520 Yes, and I think that employees have to know that you support this to them, and it comes down to them, looking okay, great. 485 00:41:14,940 --> 00:41:16,140 What is it going to happen? 486 00:41:16,140 --> 00:41:30,500 So, I think the communication as far as it will not be as a January 1st was still been a work on that, and so that it's just they know it's still in the forefront and has a definite of what the expectation is on that first day. 487 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:37,420 And I mean, obviously we can't say definitively what will happen in January, but it is our intent to go for that situation right? 488 00:41:38,060 --> 00:41:40,580 So we just need a little more information. 489 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:44,280 So then is there a motion to table? 490 00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:48,280 I would love to table this and touching it. 491 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:49,560 That's all. 492 00:41:50,180 --> 00:41:50,760 That's all. 493 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:51,980 It's been moved in a second. 494 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:53,920 Any more discussion on the table? 495 00:41:56,020 --> 00:41:57,240 One more question. 496 00:41:57,820 --> 00:42:03,080 Is this going to cause any problems with a table in it for one month or for three weeks? 497 00:42:05,340 --> 00:42:05,360 Okay. 498 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:06,540 It's the same message. 499 00:42:07,500 --> 00:42:07,740 Okay. 500 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:11,280 I just want to make sure I just, you know, 501 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,600 with people in all the days. 502 00:42:16,860 --> 00:42:21,340 Though I will say that some employees 503 00:42:21,340 --> 00:42:24,900 count on overcomes to make up the money 504 00:42:24,900 --> 00:42:26,260 that they need to earn. 505 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,580 And by doing this means that we're 506 00:42:29,580 --> 00:42:31,200 going to be canceling some overtime. 507 00:42:31,820 --> 00:42:33,400 It's still, in fact, some employees 508 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:36,060 in terms of what their take on pay is going to be. 509 00:42:36,820 --> 00:42:38,320 So as long as that's understood, 510 00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:42,400 that still is a burden that our employees 511 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,400 you're going to carry it. 512 00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,920 Hopefully it's temporary strand. 513 00:42:48,580 --> 00:42:54,240 If we have, if anybody has an open-ended idea, I don't know, dear. 514 00:42:55,620 --> 00:42:56,340 I don't see any hands. 515 00:42:59,850 --> 00:43:01,690 That being the case, I'll call it both. 516 00:43:01,690 --> 00:43:02,610 All those paper. 517 00:43:03,110 --> 00:43:03,270 Okay. 518 00:43:04,010 --> 00:43:05,710 Three paper, none of those. 519 00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:13,580 Next act is an act to accept an administrative policy, 520 00:43:13,580 --> 00:43:17,540 the entire separation and re-higher pulse. 521 00:43:19,450 --> 00:43:21,050 Yes, do I have a motion? 522 00:43:21,530 --> 00:43:22,350 Class of it. 523 00:43:23,390 --> 00:43:24,190 The meaning is second. 524 00:43:25,130 --> 00:43:26,390 Would you like to, 525 00:43:26,390 --> 00:43:28,170 how come I'm so glad I like to be an intern? 526 00:43:28,370 --> 00:43:29,890 I like this seat better. 527 00:43:30,470 --> 00:43:31,390 Then we'll directly have you. 528 00:43:32,730 --> 00:43:35,330 So we have discussed this in the last meeting 529 00:43:35,330 --> 00:43:39,550 if you had asked for a little more broader policy 530 00:43:39,550 --> 00:43:42,470 to allow us more flexibility on a case-by-case basis 531 00:43:42,470 --> 00:43:48,270 to allow us to take everybody's case at one at their own markets, right? 532 00:43:48,750 --> 00:43:54,390 So the basic line in here that states that states that we would review each situation 533 00:43:54,390 --> 00:43:58,590 in case by each basis, however, I put a little bit of parameters around there, 534 00:43:58,810 --> 00:44:02,670 so we're not very out too much, you know, some guardails in there, 535 00:44:02,750 --> 00:44:06,730 but they're not limited to it because we don't know when each person's situation. 536 00:44:06,730 --> 00:44:29,650 So we'll review based upon performance, attendance, seniority, closely related experience in the new position and relative training and certifications, policy compliance, operational budget, operational impact, budgetary considerations, comparative qualifications and other applicants and current staffing needs. 537 00:44:31,250 --> 00:44:37,330 Basically, that's everything in it, that I could think of, that we would, that are the top 538 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:13,140 Right, through what I thought in a wonderful job of giving a special ability to still in guidelines and allow us to work with our employees as we can. 539 00:45:13,740 --> 00:45:19,220 Yeah, and I also truncated it and we had different policies for each way to separate. 540 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:25,940 And I just got rid of all that instead of a voluntary separation in a voluntary, I just put a separation. 541 00:45:25,940 --> 00:45:29,780 So, we're going to take the same approach no matter how you left us. 542 00:45:33,610 --> 00:45:34,190 The question. 543 00:45:39,060 --> 00:45:47,380 The question here is the last sentence of the behind-the-secoration of the paragraph, 544 00:45:48,020 --> 00:45:51,440 says in less otherwise required by Laura C.D.A.B. 545 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:56,100 hired in whose work he is, may be treated as new hires for purposes of probation, 546 00:45:56,460 --> 00:46:00,640 seniority, compensation, and benefits, and knowledge of ability. 547 00:46:01,460 --> 00:46:08,480 So, it basically says, if somebody wants to come back, you may just treat them as if they're a brand new hire. 548 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:10,840 Depending on their situation, correct. 549 00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,140 For layoffs, we would not, for certain. 550 00:46:14,720 --> 00:46:20,380 But if they just left on their own merit, our CBA states and our state of policy and practice have been 551 00:46:20,380 --> 00:46:22,360 the treason as a new employee. 552 00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:27,240 However, this also allows us the flexibility to adjust in some of those areas. 553 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:28,880 So, we'll take a consideration. 554 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:35,080 You already know, but we may not adjust their higher name, and they may have a new higher name. 555 00:46:35,140 --> 00:46:39,200 The key word there is maybe treated, which gives rise to the correct. 556 00:46:45,580 --> 00:46:51,860 Well, I don't see that we're making anything by being, by writing this for you, right? 557 00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,580 So, I don't see anything why we shouldn't just agree with the way it is. 558 00:46:57,840 --> 00:46:59,220 I'll make a motion to accept it. 559 00:46:59,300 --> 00:47:00,180 But we already have. 560 00:47:02,180 --> 00:47:08,240 Anybody in the audience that was a comment on this? 561 00:47:11,430 --> 00:47:18,750 Because the only other thing I would have, I love this flexibility that this gives administrative staff. 562 00:47:19,570 --> 00:47:24,930 And I appreciate your work on this because we didn't ask you to go back and read the letter. 563 00:47:24,930 --> 00:47:41,650 The written policy, it assumes a generosity of spirit amongst administrative staff, administration, and commissioners that may not always exist. 564 00:47:43,050 --> 00:47:45,210 I like to make it just right now. 565 00:47:46,190 --> 00:47:57,410 And we wanted to invest at the end, but in the future, and I think everyone is on the same page about that, but in the future, that may not be in the case. 566 00:47:57,850 --> 00:48:05,190 However, I don't think the other policies that will ever pull their policies would have changed that either. 567 00:48:05,190 --> 00:48:17,890 But I just want to keep that out that just as, you know, when new governors come in, or new presidents come in, things change. 568 00:48:18,690 --> 00:48:22,250 I think we have to keep in mind that that is also possible here too. 569 00:48:23,570 --> 00:48:24,690 Yeah, 100%. 570 00:48:24,690 --> 00:48:26,070 Just an observation. 571 00:48:26,490 --> 00:48:28,210 I will try not to let it change. 572 00:48:28,770 --> 00:48:28,930 Yeah. 573 00:48:28,950 --> 00:48:39,050 I trust that everyone who is here now has that generosity of spirit and wants the best for everyone in the county. 574 00:48:39,490 --> 00:48:48,050 Yeah, well it is just a policy and any point in the future if we don't trust there, staff, we can change the policy. 575 00:48:48,570 --> 00:48:49,490 We may not be here. 576 00:48:49,490 --> 00:48:55,090 Well, whoever goes and the change of what he said, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, of course, simply that way. 577 00:48:55,410 --> 00:49:00,730 Plus, it also talks about elected officials were applicable, yes. 578 00:49:00,730 --> 00:49:06,670 We're not part of that because we don't have any great say in hiring employees, 579 00:49:09,150 --> 00:49:12,650 but I suspect this is a more for the sheriff's department. 580 00:49:12,650 --> 00:49:16,530 The sheriff's probably, yeah, you know, yeah, I don't know for a second. 581 00:49:19,330 --> 00:49:20,930 All of those are planned here. 582 00:49:21,830 --> 00:49:22,970 Any further discussion? 583 00:49:24,350 --> 00:49:26,930 Seeing as it's not, all those are favourites. 584 00:49:28,030 --> 00:49:29,270 Three and three are now opposed. 585 00:49:29,910 --> 00:49:30,490 And next. 586 00:49:32,290 --> 00:49:39,550 And the act is an act to accept the administrative policy and kind of a transfer policy. 587 00:49:40,710 --> 00:49:44,930 So our old transfer policies, state of course, you have the help of science, and pollution, 588 00:49:45,270 --> 00:49:48,730 yes, and so on too, you should do suicide as a fear of fact. 589 00:49:48,990 --> 00:49:50,610 It's been moved the second, okay, thank you. 590 00:49:52,410 --> 00:49:53,330 Perfect, thank you. 591 00:49:54,570 --> 00:49:57,230 So our old transfer policy was very simple. 592 00:49:57,650 --> 00:50:02,270 You kept your same step, which in reality for people who have been here for a very long time 593 00:50:02,270 --> 00:50:02,710 seems great. 594 00:50:03,550 --> 00:50:06,690 However, if you were here for ten years, if you were a recently promoted, 595 00:50:06,690 --> 00:50:14,890 And then we transfer you our promotion policy move you back three steps. So what good does that do? 596 00:50:15,570 --> 00:50:20,950 What individual? Why does it do that? It's how it was written. It's another one that I'm looking to adjust. 597 00:50:21,170 --> 00:50:26,490 I almost included in here as another adjustment, but since I haven't previously brought up to you, 598 00:50:26,510 --> 00:50:29,850 I didn't want to throw you a curve ball. This was most important to give it a recent situation. 599 00:50:30,810 --> 00:50:35,110 But that will be one we will be looking at down the road because we don't want our people going backwards 600 00:50:35,110 --> 00:50:37,290 It's just because the policy says, right? 601 00:50:37,970 --> 00:50:40,770 So again, this policy is written the same way. 602 00:50:40,870 --> 00:50:43,790 It allows the flexibility to take everybody's situation 603 00:50:43,790 --> 00:50:46,690 on a case, like case basis, the same language 604 00:50:46,690 --> 00:50:49,530 as the separation of the policy, because we 605 00:50:49,530 --> 00:50:51,390 want to be fair and act with what was possible 606 00:50:51,390 --> 00:50:54,730 and not lock people into some arbitrary step 607 00:50:54,730 --> 00:50:56,390 that they may have looked back for something. 608 00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:01,260 And we have a copy. 609 00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,200 And it's also very hard to talk about how 610 00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:05,240 they're all together in a single document. 611 00:51:05,460 --> 00:51:06,260 Is it okay as well? 612 00:51:06,260 --> 00:51:07,440 Yeah, oh sorry. 613 00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:11,680 Yeah, right, internal right, the language is here. 614 00:51:11,980 --> 00:51:13,640 I was in the United States, 615 00:51:13,660 --> 00:51:16,360 we're integrating this time, we're out of testing trees, 616 00:51:16,740 --> 00:51:17,540 we're in both of crisis. 617 00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,480 Oh, it's a different one, yes, yes. 618 00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,560 Yeah, you said you weren't making a part of this, but you are. 619 00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:26,160 Well, it's part of this, yes. 620 00:51:26,260 --> 00:51:29,260 But it was part of separate before, you know. 621 00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:33,380 So we have rid of this, yes, correct, yes. 622 00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:33,860 Green, 623 00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:41,460 any further discussion? 624 00:51:43,500 --> 00:51:45,360 It's not that all those in favor, 625 00:51:48,730 --> 00:51:50,510 three in favor, none of the opposed. 626 00:51:51,350 --> 00:51:59,470 The next one is an actual proof of a transfer from the undecidated funds that they continue to consider. 627 00:52:00,170 --> 00:52:01,430 It's about transfers. 628 00:52:07,230 --> 00:52:07,950 Do I have a motion? 629 00:52:08,630 --> 00:52:09,410 That's another two. 630 00:52:10,370 --> 00:52:10,550 Second. 631 00:52:11,810 --> 00:52:12,710 Can I give you a question? 632 00:52:12,970 --> 00:52:13,910 Is the light enough on this one? 633 00:52:13,970 --> 00:52:14,430 Yes. 634 00:52:14,430 --> 00:52:21,530 Start your states that when the state candidate is less than $800,000, we need to replenish it. 635 00:52:21,970 --> 00:52:29,790 We have utilized the contingency to assist communications with the coverage that they have been having regained for the income. 636 00:52:30,180 --> 00:52:35,180 Department, excuse me, a different fund, other than general fund. 637 00:52:36,420 --> 00:52:41,480 So, this has been the mechanism we've been using to fund the overages of communications. 638 00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:49,740 Correct. So, the plus this transfer of confidence, I will then go in and transfer specific entries 639 00:52:49,740 --> 00:52:54,100 within per DM from communications into the contingency account. 640 00:52:54,100 --> 00:53:01,840 And one of the part that they were having a problem with old bridges that would come right out of the undisitated fund. 641 00:53:02,340 --> 00:53:02,600 Correct. 642 00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:03,540 Communication. 643 00:53:04,140 --> 00:53:05,740 It's projected to utilize. 644 00:53:06,220 --> 00:53:06,660 It's projected. 645 00:53:08,860 --> 00:53:12,880 If we end the year better than we expect, we will do the opposite. 646 00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:18,240 But we do still think we have money there. 647 00:53:18,860 --> 00:53:21,620 The end of the year will know exactly how much it is. 648 00:53:21,620 --> 00:53:28,620 from the anti-designory, this on paper is a down to 10%. 649 00:53:41,830 --> 00:53:46,750 I hope that we end the year favorable, and yes, it would replenish it. 650 00:53:49,700 --> 00:53:50,300 Great. 651 00:53:50,720 --> 00:53:51,840 All those are the paper. 652 00:53:53,380 --> 00:53:54,880 The main paper is a little closed. 653 00:53:55,960 --> 00:54:04,140 And then the next one we have is an active charge interest in municipalities with 654 00:54:04,140 --> 00:54:08,780 the link with 325 taxes and the link with communication fees. 655 00:54:09,100 --> 00:54:18,380 And I think I'm the administrative summary special meeting sheet, explains what towns 656 00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,300 I don't know, 657 00:54:27,170 --> 00:54:29,250 sorry, in a second. 658 00:54:30,610 --> 00:54:35,530 My only question is the interest rate. 659 00:54:37,310 --> 00:54:41,030 Do we have flexibility in what that interest rate is that set by the state? 660 00:54:41,290 --> 00:54:47,310 Set by the state and it is communicated in the invoices that go to the towns in April 1, May. 661 00:54:48,250 --> 00:55:02,870 So they get their invoice enabled may, then in August, finance sends out a reminder to let them know that when their payments to do what the payments are, we crush this day of memory on the interest rate, on research. 662 00:55:03,830 --> 00:55:15,910 And then once they do not meet the deadlines, we follow up again. So it's not that we just send one invoice and then we're not communicating with the towns of cities. 663 00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:27,120 And it's also true that we are legally required to collect the interesting interests of that act. 664 00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:29,360 No, you can decide not to. 665 00:55:29,620 --> 00:55:30,180 No, okay. 666 00:55:30,540 --> 00:55:31,780 That's why I can speak for you. 667 00:55:34,110 --> 00:55:36,350 That means we're required. 668 00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:41,260 The amount is set by the state. 669 00:55:41,700 --> 00:55:43,660 The percentage rate is set by the state. 670 00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:48,020 As far as whether we move forward to change that, that's not to the commission. 671 00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:52,380 question, how often do we run into this circumstance? 672 00:55:54,760 --> 00:56:00,140 This is the most that we've had in a couple of years, but there's always a couple. 673 00:56:01,240 --> 00:56:04,220 We have any idea why the leaders are happening. 674 00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:09,760 I can't say that I've asked the question. 675 00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:12,400 I'm also not the one that's following up. 676 00:56:13,020 --> 00:56:15,100 It's that my head specialist is following up with them. 677 00:56:19,150 --> 00:56:28,390 And would you go by the postmark on the envelope when it is built to us not the date that we get at hand in order to be fair to us? 678 00:56:34,060 --> 00:56:42,180 So I guess the only built choice is that we're faced with here is whether we charge interest at all or not. 679 00:56:42,540 --> 00:56:42,740 Correct. 680 00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:50,460 Whether you authorise me to invoice day 1,000, $3,000, $4,000 to the town's city system. 681 00:57:00,540 --> 00:57:06,120 I guess I just want to be 100% sure about our requirements here. 682 00:57:07,620 --> 00:57:14,980 I don't know where it is in statute, but I thought it was a requirement that we collect this. 683 00:57:15,300 --> 00:57:16,480 These late charges. 684 00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:21,680 And if it's not a requirement, then you'll get to know if you have any information about that. 685 00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:26,660 for communication features, the interest of the discretionary for communication. 686 00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:32,040 For contact tasks, we will discuss you the same as it does become part of the task. 687 00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:38,320 Okay, so communications we do have discretion, but counting tasks we do not have to. 688 00:57:41,370 --> 00:57:47,270 I will say in past years some years we go forward some years it has been decided to not. 689 00:57:49,330 --> 00:57:53,510 I can say also that it hasn't been challenged when it's decided to not. 690 00:57:54,130 --> 00:57:55,650 The town's not going to come in. 691 00:57:56,450 --> 00:57:56,630 Yeah. 692 00:57:56,630 --> 00:57:57,570 All right. 693 00:57:58,170 --> 00:58:00,330 I just want to make sure from the states. 694 00:58:00,330 --> 00:58:03,910 What's back is we don't have a legal requirement that we decide. 695 00:58:04,550 --> 00:58:07,090 There's no follow-up from the state on any of this. 696 00:58:08,450 --> 00:58:11,430 I will say that we are borrowing money. 697 00:58:11,830 --> 00:58:14,830 So when the towns and the cities are all paying us on time. 698 00:58:15,190 --> 00:58:16,050 We are paying interest. 699 00:58:16,370 --> 00:58:17,050 We have a chance. 700 00:58:17,530 --> 00:58:18,390 We have a chance. 701 00:58:20,610 --> 00:58:21,870 That's helpful information. 702 00:58:22,590 --> 00:58:23,150 Okay. 703 00:58:24,410 --> 00:58:24,970 Okay. 704 00:58:26,310 --> 00:58:34,030 My only question is, this has been particularly taught here for a lot of the, because of the 705 00:58:34,030 --> 00:58:37,050 your valuations and stuff like that. 706 00:58:37,190 --> 00:58:43,370 And wondering if, you know, as we've just done it, we're sure that money should we be gracious 707 00:58:43,370 --> 00:58:46,430 to the people about these taxes. 708 00:58:47,170 --> 00:58:48,810 I think that could go both ways. 709 00:58:48,810 --> 00:58:51,290 We've struggled for cash flow this year. 710 00:58:51,950 --> 00:58:57,590 We have had some very difficult times as the towns in the cities. 711 00:59:00,370 --> 00:59:05,250 And it also somewhat sets precedents that if we do not move forward that then there's 712 00:59:05,250 --> 00:59:08,750 not a lot of flexibility moving forward in future years. 713 00:59:09,730 --> 00:59:16,310 And also, it ends up going right back to the towns eventually, anyway, you know, and sort 714 00:59:16,830 --> 00:59:18,850 of a dog eating at the tail here. 715 00:59:18,850 --> 00:59:19,510 There's 716 00:59:24,630 --> 00:59:27,250 a motion on the floor, there's a motion on the menu. 717 00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:42,670 I would like to give them some time to bake without the interest. 718 00:59:43,250 --> 00:59:45,430 There's not a lot in some cases in a couple of cases. 719 00:59:46,950 --> 00:59:47,810 A couple of towns. 720 00:59:50,530 --> 00:59:54,010 Well, we can't commend it in terms of the county tax rate on the communications. 721 00:59:55,550 --> 00:59:59,750 I'm sorry I said that again. We can't. There's one year that's coming to act, which we can change. 722 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:04,220 Correct. And then the communications interest we can. 723 01:00:06,010 --> 01:00:09,490 Based on Chelsea's research, that's what it states. 724 01:00:13,630 --> 01:00:16,470 Then I'd like to give the down to break on the communications. 725 01:00:16,730 --> 01:00:21,590 Especially because this was an interesting year of communications. 726 01:00:25,150 --> 01:00:27,390 What do you mean give them a break? 727 01:00:27,850 --> 01:00:30,430 Are you saying we shouldn't charge them? 728 01:00:30,430 --> 01:00:32,370 So, interest on the communications, 729 01:00:41,660 --> 01:00:45,200 so that can, but I can just be interested about how far 730 01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:45,980 against it. 731 01:00:47,500 --> 01:00:48,780 Are you going to put against what? 732 01:00:49,140 --> 01:00:49,560 A whole thing? 733 01:00:52,900 --> 01:00:54,360 So, you don't think even a bit? 734 01:00:54,540 --> 01:00:55,740 I'll make the amendment. 735 01:00:56,560 --> 01:01:02,960 You would like to amend this to remove the interest from the communications correct bills. 736 01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:05,220 Do I hear a second? 737 01:01:06,660 --> 01:01:08,040 I'll have to missector this. 738 01:01:08,100 --> 01:01:08,380 Okay. 739 01:01:08,940 --> 01:01:13,080 Okay, so that's the amendment, all those in favor of the amendment, 740 01:01:17,550 --> 01:01:18,470 all those opposed, 741 01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:22,660 two in favor of one of those. 742 01:01:23,820 --> 01:01:29,200 Now we return to the original motion that has to be, you know, any further discussion? 743 01:01:37,300 --> 01:01:46,580 I could see only discussion I would add is based on what Kathy is saying. 744 01:01:46,580 --> 01:01:52,640 And I don't want to set a precedent of late payments when it puts the accounting 745 01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:55,260 of position to have to borrow money and pay interest. 746 01:01:56,160 --> 01:02:06,980 So that's my motivation for voting to approve the motion as originally suited. 747 01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:08,920 And so 748 01:02:11,450 --> 01:02:13,030 that's my motivation. 749 01:02:13,030 --> 01:02:18,030 I think it's Kathy said that it has been done before, I don't think we're 750 01:02:19,970 --> 01:02:21,030 we're setting up pressure. 751 01:02:21,350 --> 01:02:23,610 I think it's been done before. 752 01:02:24,350 --> 01:02:28,290 On, I don't, it might have been last year or the year before when we were really 753 01:02:28,290 --> 01:02:32,030 first out of facing an issue with communications. 754 01:02:34,190 --> 01:02:38,730 At that point, yes, it was decided not to do it for that particular time. 755 01:02:38,730 --> 01:02:53,950 I'm not sure in that same situation right now, and we are very little opportunities for us to collect any type of additional payments or revenue. 756 01:02:56,840 --> 01:03:03,060 And I think it was very clear as to when things are due to us and requirements of towns and cities. 757 01:03:03,060 --> 01:03:04,120 Yeah, 758 01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:15,480 so I tend to take that into consideration and I think that we should just be very clear. 759 01:03:16,060 --> 01:03:24,040 You know, we're not in a unique situation necessarily now and this kind of situation moving forward. 760 01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:26,380 Then it would be setting a precedent. 761 01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:38,220 Well, let me go back and we already voted, I'd like to give it, I don't want it to be a permanent one. 762 01:03:38,980 --> 01:03:43,500 Yeah, but at some point, you know, if the bill doesn't get paid the next time. 763 01:03:48,380 --> 01:03:53,340 But it's a one-off because of the difficulties we have with occupations. 764 01:03:53,780 --> 01:03:58,080 And they still have to pay, I don't know, still have to pay to the interest times at a time of tax. 765 01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:14,220 I want to bid you a few years, but I will make the observation that so far every year has been a hard year for a good budget and building. 766 01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:23,940 I mean, there has not been an easy year, you know, say that, oh, this is an easy year. Well, there may be a little easier, but this is not an easy year for you. 767 01:04:23,940 --> 01:04:32,400 I don't think I've ever mistaken, and my money is because we don't have a lot of money, and we might need that after $1,000. 768 01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:39,780 But I will still support the motion as amended at this point. 769 01:04:40,940 --> 01:04:41,720 I'm in discussion. 770 01:04:42,280 --> 01:04:48,200 So can I also make one of the point is that county taxes due to us on September 1st along the communications. 771 01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:54,360 some town cities do not pay us until 111 because they know that interest will not occur 772 01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:59,540 until that time. So that also frets us as a county from a cash flow perspective when 773 01:04:59,540 --> 01:05:03,120 towns in cities do not pay us September 1st of a county tax. 774 01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:17,140 What we do can go time to 775 01:05:17,140 --> 01:05:23,760 look in advance. What we have left of Oda is whether church interest or the county tax 776 01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:25,620 That's what's left, correct? 777 01:05:26,220 --> 01:05:27,820 No, we haven't voted. 778 01:05:28,860 --> 01:05:32,600 As it is amended, oh, you're charging interest 779 01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:35,340 on the county tax, but not on the communications. 780 01:05:36,180 --> 01:05:36,920 Oh, we just have to vote. 781 01:05:37,140 --> 01:05:37,840 Let's change it. 782 01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:39,520 Yes, oh, yeah, we voted on it. 783 01:05:39,540 --> 01:05:41,540 No, we haven't voted on it yet. 784 01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:48,660 I mean, you can also repeal your amendment. 785 01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:51,300 Choose, we have to vote on it now. 786 01:05:52,340 --> 01:05:55,860 All those of you who are out of the act as a member, 787 01:05:57,500 --> 01:06:00,960 to invade one of those, I'm assuming. 788 01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:02,580 I am a host. 789 01:06:03,340 --> 01:06:03,580 Yes. 790 01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:05,340 Thank you. 791 01:06:05,940 --> 01:06:08,280 I didn't raise my hand, but I'll take that. 792 01:06:08,560 --> 01:06:10,360 I know that. 793 01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:12,240 Thank you. 794 01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:13,420 Okay. 795 01:06:13,960 --> 01:06:16,040 Then we have... 796 01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:18,720 Hopefully that. 797 01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:20,700 We have the executive section. 798 01:06:21,140 --> 01:06:23,240 We're going to ask a question. 799 01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:31,400 Yes, of course, since we took our vote on the budget represented in the short promise 800 01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:39,660 during the meeting under the rule 1 to ask any questions of the chief deputy in terms of the budget 801 01:06:39,660 --> 01:06:44,500 that we put whereup if he had any information. 802 01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:48,840 I don't write down unless you add some questions for me. 803 01:06:50,180 --> 01:06:51,400 I'm curious right ahead, sir. 804 01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:58,400 Well, I think the biggest question is, this is the share of the part of the thing that they can fit underneath the 805 01:06:59,180 --> 01:07:01,920 campus, spending no more than last year's budget. 806 01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:15,220 We are confident that we can stay with them last year if need be. 807 01:07:16,780 --> 01:07:18,400 Well, need be. 808 01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:25,260 Well, we're still in this transition, so we see if we get out from the legislature. 809 01:07:25,260 --> 01:07:29,360 Well, that's not what happened on January 1st. 810 01:07:29,620 --> 01:07:29,720 Correct. 811 01:07:31,420 --> 01:07:39,540 The discussion we had in the world, we've postponed it to the general in the law to increase step, increases, and sort of all people. 812 01:07:40,340 --> 01:07:43,700 Because we didn't have the information whether or not you were able to do that or not. 813 01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:47,900 This is a good communication as well, with the changes that are happening there. 814 01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:51,680 I have not been to some corrections? Yes. 815 01:07:52,660 --> 01:08:12,020 In that case, as that clear, go back and re-evaluate the vote we made, because that was the question we had, it's called the chair of my vote, as the case, and I'm going back and operation the steps to take place January 1st. 816 01:08:15,890 --> 01:08:23,850 I don't have my progress, but since you've got it in the majority, you can make a motion 817 01:08:23,850 --> 01:08:26,450 to untable it, in effect, based on the table. 818 01:08:27,430 --> 01:08:32,000 Is there a second to that, to take it off the table? 819 01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:36,540 Well, I'll make that motion in a second or last. 820 01:08:41,110 --> 01:08:41,830 And I like that. 821 01:08:41,830 --> 01:08:42,890 At least I have that discussion. 822 01:08:42,890 --> 01:08:49,910 Well, I will second it and then we'll vote to the table and then we'll vote to the table. 823 01:08:50,570 --> 01:08:50,890 Okay. 824 01:08:53,860 --> 01:08:54,040 Okay. 825 01:08:54,040 --> 01:08:54,460 Do you favor? 826 01:08:57,130 --> 01:09:00,050 To the table and we'll vote to the table and we'll vote to the table and we'll vote to the table. 827 01:09:00,790 --> 01:09:01,570 Then my question. 828 01:09:01,570 --> 01:09:02,890 It's that look on your face. 829 01:09:03,190 --> 01:09:03,390 What do you think? 830 01:09:03,390 --> 01:09:04,570 I mean, you can have a meeting. 831 01:09:04,650 --> 01:09:04,950 You can have a meeting. 832 01:09:05,090 --> 01:09:05,290 You can have a meeting. 833 01:09:06,410 --> 01:09:07,350 So I'm talking to you. 834 01:09:07,350 --> 01:09:09,450 This is really just to discuss it again. 835 01:09:10,450 --> 01:09:10,870 I don't know. 836 01:09:10,930 --> 01:09:11,870 It was a chair for that previous. 837 01:09:12,030 --> 01:09:12,470 Right. 838 01:09:12,470 --> 01:09:15,870 And I just wanted to add some of my questions for it. 839 01:09:15,870 --> 01:09:24,230 the invite is knowing what Chief Deputy Andrewt has just said. Does that make it easier 840 01:09:24,230 --> 01:09:29,410 go in and generate first with steps? Is it supposed to wait him to press the vote in January 841 01:09:29,410 --> 01:09:35,350 18th? And there will be any additional information we'll have then that we don't have now. 842 01:09:35,990 --> 01:09:42,750 Yes. The sheriff's department was one of the departments that had no issue covering their 843 01:09:42,750 --> 01:09:53,110 increases. It's other departments, six other departments that cannot give it. So the 300,000 still is exactly the same. 844 01:09:55,350 --> 01:10:03,010 So I don't think any of them has changed since I thought the reason we did this was we didn't have the impact in the server. 845 01:10:03,690 --> 01:10:08,370 Well, what we really need from the sheriff's department is going back to all of the 846 01:10:08,370 --> 01:10:13,850 administrative working together that the sheriff's department helping to cover some of the 847 01:10:13,850 --> 01:10:18,590 unsee overages and other departments that we said that don't have those dances and we 848 01:10:18,590 --> 01:10:20,210 haven't had those discussions yet. 849 01:10:20,550 --> 01:10:21,330 Thank you. 850 01:10:21,410 --> 01:10:21,590 Okay. 851 01:10:22,370 --> 01:10:28,670 And then I just need to go against the table in previous motion. 852 01:10:33,820 --> 01:10:35,180 Well, we will not table it. 853 01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:35,940 Right. 854 01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:38,780 We'll take it off the table so we can discuss a little more. 855 01:10:42,340 --> 01:10:42,900 Okay. 856 01:10:42,900 --> 01:10:58,700 Department of Department, who's got a little extra money, who doesn't have extra money to cover their costs and that stuff that has to be worked out between the departments between finance and administration so that we get to the point the first week the second week in January 857 01:10:58,700 --> 01:11:06,280 that we now kind of that strategy that I keep mumbling about, where we know where it's coming from. 858 01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:11,560 And so, that I'll make a motion to keep the vote as we vote. 859 01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:14,960 Well, it's a retable, and we can't put it back on the table until January. 860 01:11:16,540 --> 01:11:16,800 Yeah. 861 01:11:17,900 --> 01:11:19,300 And then do I have a second for that? 862 01:11:19,300 --> 01:11:19,700 I will. 863 01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:20,800 Thank you. 864 01:11:21,340 --> 01:11:23,000 All those in favor of the table. 865 01:11:23,580 --> 01:11:23,640 Okay. 866 01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:24,640 Thank you. 867 01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:25,660 Thank you. 868 01:11:27,240 --> 01:11:27,820 Thank you. 869 01:11:28,460 --> 01:11:31,440 I would say a little confused about what exactly you mean. 870 01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:32,660 I don't know. 871 01:11:32,660 --> 01:11:33,040 I don't know. 872 01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:36,240 I don't know. 873 01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:48,420 Well, I thought you all made the right decision for limited discussions, at least with people I've heard from the airport DA, they can cover themselves, they have found ways to do it, I don't know if that's the stance, but at least that's the hope. 874 01:11:48,940 --> 01:11:56,240 You know there's a lot of arguments, you know that there's a lot of arguments that can wave all a little bit of a real amount of it, but they're also departments. 875 01:11:56,860 --> 01:12:04,460 I mean, in general, we appreciate how close to the vote in every department is works in the county. 876 01:12:04,740 --> 01:12:10,680 We know, despite what other people think about this a lot of money and waste fraud and the views kicking around. 877 01:12:10,680 --> 01:12:17,380 And we know having been on this side for years now, that there isn't a lot of extra money 878 01:12:17,380 --> 01:12:22,360 in the company department that, oh, you can find 5% here and there, we know it's 879 01:12:22,360 --> 01:12:22,660 expensive. 880 01:12:23,540 --> 01:12:28,100 And we really appreciate that the fact that everybody has worked so hard over the years 881 01:12:28,100 --> 01:12:32,560 to have tight budgets, but that puts us in this body and down that will be our stock 882 01:12:32,560 --> 01:12:33,740 of last year's money. 883 01:12:34,060 --> 01:12:35,800 There isn't a lot of extra money taking. 884 01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:38,420 So we do appreciate that. 885 01:12:38,420 --> 01:12:43,760 The one that it's going to work is, as Kathy's point out, if some of the departments 886 01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:48,940 have find a little easier, well, some of the departments that have it even harder. 887 01:12:49,900 --> 01:12:53,340 So, we're hoping there's a lot of that cooperation from the Department of the Department. 888 01:12:57,000 --> 01:13:00,040 Can I make a motion, will you move in to the executive session? 889 01:13:00,900 --> 01:13:01,620 I'm not saying that. 890 01:13:04,050 --> 01:13:04,290 Any of that? 891 01:13:04,970 --> 01:13:05,250 Yeah. 892 01:13:05,710 --> 01:13:06,670 You want to make a motion? 893 01:13:06,670 --> 01:13:13,670 in the second session, the first no matter if we're showing to one MRSA 40568. 894 01:13:15,030 --> 01:13:16,850 Will any credit discussion on that? 895 01:13:17,170 --> 01:13:18,150 How has it been second? 896 01:13:20,170 --> 01:13:21,170 In the present discussion. 897 01:13:22,970 --> 01:13:24,370 Seeing as there's none. 898 01:13:25,210 --> 01:13:26,650 Thank you all very much for coming. 899 01:13:27,550 --> 01:13:28,680 We appreciate your time. 900 01:13:30,030 --> 01:13:31,790 I hope we're in a daily at least. 901 01:13:32,850 --> 01:13:34,750 Yeah, I know what you're saying. 902 01:13:34,950 --> 01:13:36,270 And now I'll call him up. 903 01:13:37,630 --> 01:13:38,490 All those members? 904 01:13:40,010 --> 01:13:40,290 Help me. 905 01:13:40,570 --> 01:13:42,190 Safety and safety, especially the K-TOT-D-C. 906 01:13:42,410 --> 01:13:44,750 Well, a separation and transfer policy. 907 01:13:45,190 --> 01:13:46,030 You'll prove that correct. 908 01:13:46,670 --> 01:13:47,930 Can I get a coffee in there? 909 01:13:48,010 --> 01:13:48,570 Yes, I can. 910 01:13:48,570 --> 01:13:49,470 And now, yes. 911 01:13:49,670 --> 01:13:50,270 I can go. 912 01:13:51,210 --> 01:13:51,890 You can go. 913 01:13:52,130 --> 01:13:52,910 You can go. 914 01:13:53,230 --> 01:13:53,430 What? 915 01:13:55,250 --> 01:13:55,750 Yeah. 916 01:13:55,970 --> 01:13:56,310 I can go. 917 01:13:56,690 --> 01:13:57,050 Yeah. 918 01:13:57,050 --> 01:13:57,590 I can go. 919 01:14:42,940 --> 01:14:49,680 So, we're back in session, and we're back in session, and we're back in session, and there's no business that came out of the exact intersection. 920 01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:53,140 We have a motion to adjourn. 921 01:14:53,620 --> 01:14:55,800 We usually discuss the idea. 922 01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:10,600 We usually discuss, and it's meeting, we don't have another meeting scheduled at this point till our January break in the meeting. 923 01:15:11,340 --> 01:15:24,420 If something comes up in the meeting, especially meeting with budget or personnel or anything else, I'm sure Chelsea can find it at a date that we're all available, but at this point we have nothing else scheduled. 924 01:15:26,950 --> 01:15:29,150 Any other business to come before that? 925 01:15:29,390 --> 01:15:30,430 You mentioned seeing none? 926 01:15:31,550 --> 01:15:32,810 All those in favour of your German? 927 01:15:34,470 --> 01:15:35,570 Three in favour of none of those. 928 01:15:36,550 --> 01:15:36,710 Okay. 929 01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:45,460 Thanks for having me. 930 01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:47,560 Oh. 931 01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:48,080 Oh, boy. 932 01:15:48,880 --> 01:15:50,000 I have to go ahead. 933 01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:50,340 I have to go ahead. 934 01:15:50,400 --> 01:15:50,520 I have to go ahead.