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This conference will not please start
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Good evening. Tonight is uh what are we?
We're uh July 12th, 2026. And I'd like

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to call tonight's work session to order.
Or is this August? It is August. I'm

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already I'm way off in my date. Look at
that. August 12th, 2026. And I'd like to

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call tonight's uh work session to order.
Um, clerk, can I get a roll call vote on

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this?

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» Council member Ravaro
>> present.

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» Council member Casper.
>> Uh, Council Member Casper and Bole are

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both out of town, but we're going to be
calling in or trying to call in for the

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workshop. Uh, if not, they'll be in on
the council meeting.

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» Is he okay?
>> Yeah, sure. Um um

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» you just need a
>> council member Bole

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» present.

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» Oh, he muted.
>> Council member Bole, can you hear us?

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» Yep, I can hear you guys. Okay. Can you
hear me?

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» Perfect.
>> Wonderful.

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» We're in the middle of a roll call.
Council member.

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» Yep. Present.
>> Council member France.

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» Present.
>> Council member Cerviny. present.

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» Mayor, Mayor Tom.
>> Yeah, I'm here.

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» Thank you, clerk.
>> All right. Tonight, we do have a

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presentation. This is a comprehensive
plan elements prior to final adoption.

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Uh, we do have WSP presenting. Do we
know who who from WSP is presenting? Is

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it Marty? It is. Marty, are you with us
tonight?

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» Yes. Can you hear me?
>> I can. How are you?

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» Okay, good. How about you guys?
>> Great. Great.

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» Good. I also have Alec Agarola joining
me. We're going to tag team the uh slide

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deck that we've got teed up for the work
session.

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» Perfect. All the way from New York.
>> He's from New York. Yes. And I'm from

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downtown Vancouver.
>> Hard to get away this afternoon.

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» Sounds good. All right. Well, the mic is
yours.

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» All right. Great. Um, I'm gonna have
somebody get to this slide deck and I'll

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probably one of us are gonna be we're
going to be saying next slide, please.

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Um, so next slide, please.

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So, we just wanted to brief the the
mayor, city council, and planning

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commission on the cl the comp plan
update that we've been working on for

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before my time at WSP, which has been
about a year and a half. Alex been

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through uh this plan update since its
inception. Uh we want to review the

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community engagement and vision portion
of the uh effort. Uh kind of call your

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attention to some of the plan elements,
specifically the new plan elements and

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some sticking points to a few of them.
Uh we have made some uh code amendments

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to implement

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to implement your comp plan and uh want
to touch a bit on the preferred land use

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alternative which has been around and
around and around uh with uh Clark

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County and other folks. So,
um, I'll jump down to the next slide and

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I think Alex's going to do a little bit
of, uh, a refresher on all the community

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engagement and outreach that he's been a
part of since the beginning.

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» Thanks, Marty. Um, I'm assuming everyone
can hear me. Okay. Um, thanks for having

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us again. Um, it's been a minute since
I've uh, been virtually or in person in

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the center, so happy to be here. Um but
want to touch base on community

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engagement for the comp plan. Um from
the inception of this comp plan um

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there's a public particip participation
plan that was drafted um with city staff

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and vetted through the planning
commission and city council back in

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2023. And this plan set the framework
for all the events and um public

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engagement methods as shown here. Um as
you can see there's been two open

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houses. um one in March of 2024 and then
another in January 2025. A handful of

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tableabling sessions um at various uh
city events like uh our days and um the

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farmers market at the listener church
and then um the city's website had a

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dedicated web page for the comprehensive
plan update um just giving you the who,

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what, how, and why for the comprehensive
plan. And then um we also had several

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fact sheets, physical printouts that
were handed out at community events. Um

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I believe there's a stack at one point
at the front desk there at city hall um

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to provide details about the comp plan
with a QR code to the web page. And then

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um as several of the planning commission
members and the city council members

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know, a lot of workshops were held with
um this whole planning process with the

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various elements, the land use
alternative and so forth. Um and so um

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we're finally getting to the horizon of
this project. Um and all this engagement

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was used to establish the vision for the
cent's future and inform and update the

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various comp plan policies and the
preferred land use alternative which

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we'll be going over here briefly. So
I'll go on to the next slide and hand it

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back to Marty.
Yeah, very quickly to the um just the

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the highest level uh primer on this is
we're updating this plan

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because it's a periodic update required
under the law and Clark County kind of

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drives the plan update um
calendar, if you will, with first

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starting out with a 20-year growth
allocation of population and employment

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and at a very high level. Um the county
allocated 20 years of growth to the year

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2045.
Currently, Lent sits at about 4,200

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people and the growth allocation is to
um accommodate growth to about 8,800

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people and the jobs number you have
currently is between 800 and a,000 jobs

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and we're planning for roughly 2100 in
the year 2045. So,

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we're part of the region that updates
all of the cities of are updating uh

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plans along with Clark County. Uh two um
critical pieces I wanted to mention.

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There are new affordable housing
requirements under the law. So, the

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housing element has some treatments um
and provisions that that I'll kind of

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speak to on this next slide. Uh there's
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that um all of the cities are uh
required to to adopt. Uh because the

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center doesn't meet the threshold of I
think it's 6,000 people. Um the climate

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element speaks to climate resiliency
only and not greenhouse gas and vehicle

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miles traveled reduction. So the climate
element that you have will be for

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climate resiliency.
Um this slide here kind of gives you a

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sense of what uh the housing piece looks
like. And the um

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the the requirement is to is to provide
a land supply for enough affordable

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housing in these various income bands.
And I kind of call I call this attention

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uh the commerce income bands that
they've called out in the in the

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guidance is
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income AMI and it's 0 to 30, 30 to 50,
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AMI. So, we're looking at uh housing
numbers that would um

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would t these income bands. Um so,
you had a uh a housing needs assessment

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and strategy u put together um that
informs the the housing element. So,

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um you'll see plan policies and some
directions in that that element that uh

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come out of these out of these reports

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and I'm going to have Alec pick the next
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Thanks, Marty. Um so, the first element
we're looking at is chapter one, the

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land use element. Um, this is probably
the most important and foundational

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element of the comp plan and it kind of
sets up the foundation to all the other

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elements of the comprehensive plan. Um,
and the land use element serves as the

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community's blueprint for how and where
future growth should occur in the

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center. And the element establishes land
use designations, de development

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policies, and strategies to accommodate
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growth in the center while also
maintaining the city's small town

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character. Um the land use element was
updated for the latest latest city

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demographics allocations as Marty
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jobs and also the preferred land use
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Um and then with the impact fees, um
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um there's some development code related
elements to this um per state

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requirements or the growth management
act GMA. Um we updated impact fees in

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the code to allow deferral for for
multifamily housing so they can defer

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impact fees until later into like
building permits and so forth. um to

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just uh provide a mechanism for them to
develop and then um requiring short plat

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subdivisions to establish adequate
public facilities and update approval

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expiration periods. And then another
piece is uh providing clear and

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objective design standards. Um this is a
state requirement where any design

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standards have to be um concrete and not
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And so we went through the code and
helped clean that up. And then next

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slide um is the preferred land use
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city's preferred land use alternative
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council some time ago. As Marty hinted
at, this has gone through a long process

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with Clark County. Um but thankfully and
gratefully Clark County uh recognized uh

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the city's preferred land use
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council um earlier this year for
assessment in their um final

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environmental impact statement for
growth management. Um and the county

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council recognized recognized the need
for urban growth expansion areas which

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I'll highlight here in a second. Um so
with all the input we got from the

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citizens and land owners and all the
visioning through the open houses and

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tableabling events while also um
engaging with the city council and

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planning commission and city staff. Um
we've landed here with the preferred

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land use alternative.
Um and also during this process the land

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use alternative recognized the sub area
planning effort we did with Tim Tim and

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Landing and downtown.
Um and then this has gone further

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environments between the county and city
staff. Um so to highlight some of the

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areas we have area one and two. Um those
two areas were are currently zoned um

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low density residential and they're
planned to be zoned as medium density

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residential to accommodate those lower
income bands. Um I I believe a few

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properties in area 2 have already been
reszoned recently um and approved by the

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city. Um area three, this is a couple
properties uh within the urban growth

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area but um not annexed into the city
yet. Um, and as we were massaging

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numbers, um, we just want to recognize
once that's annexed into the city, it

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will be low density residential, um,
just to, um, balance out our housing

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numbers. And then areas four and five,
um, these are some of our expansion

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areas. Uh, they would be expanded north
and south of the junction plan with the

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junction plan zoning, which is shown in
that beige there. And then as you go

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southwest across I5 is area six. And
this would be expansion area for

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employment or light industrial zoning.

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And then on to the next slide please. So
we move to chapter two the

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transportation element. Um this was
largely informed by the transportation

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capital facilities plan which the city
council recently adopted a few months

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ago. Um so again that informs this
element and this was using uh the CFP to

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update existing conditions for the trans
transportation network. So roadways uh

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trails
uh bike paths, transit and so forth. And

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then uh detailing the future conditions
and demand for these facilities as the

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city grows. and then establishing six
and 20 year capital improvement plans or

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current and potential funding sources.
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included widening of the center road,
pedestrian roadway improvements along

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Pacific Highway and um the planned round
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And then some code related requirements.
Um, typically when a development comes

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in, they have to assess traffic impacts
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level of service to decrease to
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uh levels of service, then they have to
um develop mechanisms to offset those

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and develop like a roundabout or impact
fees or so forth. However, um per state

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law, there's exclusions to these and I5
is an exclusion to that. So, if a

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development a development will have to
um study I5 for impacts uh for

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transportation and level of service and
then um a big piece here is also

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electric vehicle infrastructure. I'm
just updating language allowing battery

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energy storage for electric vehicles and
charging stations um as needed and

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allowing these in the downtown
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And then uh tandem parking and parking
standards. These are related to

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residential parking standards. Um just
allowing these for residential uses and

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up updating parking space dimensions per
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Next slide, please.
Um, and I'll be handing over to Marty.

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» So, the I mentioned earlier about the
the housing element. So, there are not

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only are there income bands that are
required, but there's types of housing

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that are required. Now, I can touch on
some of the code amendments. They

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include permanent permanent supportive
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that sometimes you'll hear that the
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supporting supportive housing. Um
included in this requirement again is

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the income bands that are you know less
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100 to 120 this based on area median
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There are code amendments that are part
of this that that Alec can touch on

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because he's been working on the more of
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Thanks Marty. Um so for permanent
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housing um these must be allowed in any
zone where residences and hotels are

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allowed. Um but uh these are being
conditionally allowed in the center with

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specific use requirements. So if these
are being permitted um they'll have to

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meet specific standards. Um, some
examples of permanent supportive housing

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include apartments with on-site case
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services and veteran supportive housing.
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housing include family transitional
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for homeless youth.
Um, and the second item here is

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emergency shelters and housing. Uh,
these have to be allowed in any zones in

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which hotels are allowed. And on the
center, this is just the junction plan

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zone. Again, um if these are cited on
the center, they'll be a conditional use

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and have to meet specific criteria once
if for citing those in the city. And

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then lastly, it's co-living housing. Um
this is housing uh where uh it's a

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shared living arrangement where each
person has their own room and like

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lockable room. Um but they share a
communal space. So usually the living

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area and kitchen. Um, and these have to
be allowed in zones where six units or

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more are permitted. So that's
essentially any zone that's not low

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density residential that allows other
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Next slide, please.
Chapter four is capital facilities and

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utilities. Um, this is pretty much
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Um so the city met with various service
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this included service providers like uh
Clark Kelllets Fire and Rescue, Lester

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School District, Fort Vancouver
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Sheriff's Office. Um so we're updating
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storm water, schools, libraries, etc.
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these facilities but also um updating
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providers and services as the city is
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And then uh code related again another
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public facilities. Um these are
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facilities that are larger in nature and
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types of uses they are like airports,
state educational facilities and

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regional transportation facilities. Um
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these existing in the center as you you
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but the state requires us to have some
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these are to be cited in the future.
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it back to Marty.
>> So yeah, the economic development uh

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chapter or element. Um
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boundary expansion to the junction where
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in that area that would both accommodate
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affordable housing segment. Um, we we
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two sub area plans that were adopted a
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the downtown sub area plan. Um the uh
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a little bit later in next steps, but
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kind of dial in the right numbers for
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have uh kind of a goal of hitting the
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under capacity.
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again to recognize the sub area plans
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well as some of the affordable housing
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that's for that's chapter five.
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um the parks open parks rack open space
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refreshing that based on the recently
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incorporating
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the capital facilities pieces of the
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comp plan.
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seen this through the adoption of the
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We have a number of what we call minor
minor elements. They're not um, growth

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management has several mandatory
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of your comp plan, including like land
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uh a historic uh historic archaeological
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have an urban growth and annexation
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requirements to protect identify and
protect critical areas ordinances like

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wetlands, steep slopes, habitat areas,
floodways, uh critical aquifer recharge

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areas and and the like. And then there's
a a government element that uh I think

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we touch on um uh the city's uh approach
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participation and engagement. So those
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uh call out in this particular instance.
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of the uh critical areas uh ordinances
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» Thanks Marty. Um we can proceed to the
next slide please. Um so as Marty

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indicated uh I'll be going over the
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put the CAO. Um this is chapter 18300 of
the city's code. Um critical areas as uh

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identified by the state are geologically
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recharge areas, fish and wildlife
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from um just state mandates but also
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elects to uh put out regulations for
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we also updated the designations or
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including the caras or critical aquifer
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and wetlands. Um and just noting in the
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critical area which is a wellhead
protection area. Um this is a pretty

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large one this bullseye and covering um
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are made to these critical areas um uh
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some sort of mitigation has to be put in
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mitigation requirements per guidance
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uh for Oregon white oaks and riparian
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wetlands. Um this is per ecology
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a application comes through and they're
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they have to provide a critical area
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impacted documenting um those impacts
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net loss. So we've updated those for a
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then going on to the next slide,
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comprehensive plan which is the climate
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element per this periodic update. I
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bill in 2022
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resilience. As Marty Marty noted, um the
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greenhouse gas reductions um just
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threshold, but has to plan for climate
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planning is about preparing today for
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anticipate climate related risks,
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build a safer, healthier, and more
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in the center. Go on to the next slide.
Uh this covers uh updates we've done to

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implement this new chapter. Um so
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county had a consultant perform a
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the county and and its cities. Um and so
this risk assessment identified specific

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natural hazards in the center and how
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center. Um and the highest ranking of
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precipitation and storm. Um but due to
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public engagement and also a recent
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wildfires was also determined just
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due to again the imminent risk of that
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center. Um
and using uh and identifying this

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information for natural hazards in the
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goals and policies to uh reduce these
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the future. And then going on to the
next slide. Um the city has an overall

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climate resiliency goal which is the
center shall enhance community

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preparedness, response and recovery
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impacts of wildfires, floods and other
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change. And then you see 12 different
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climate resiliency that we have within
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comprehensive plan. And these touch on
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uh, hazard mitigation, economic
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And I will hand it back to Marty. We can
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» Marty, I believe you're muted.
>> Yes. Sorry about that. Uh yeah, this

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this slide puts in context the the
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County's lead on the environmental
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year, October 1st. Um aside from the
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all the other cities and Clark County
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draft environment draft environmental
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uh the cities coordinated with Clark
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to release that that draft EIS.
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ended uh toward the end of November. Um,
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an a protracted, uh, process to narrow
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from that preferred land use alternative
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boundary expansion to the junction and
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date of the draft EIS and the and the
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did undertake an agricultural resource
lands uh study. They got a very very

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late start. Um I think they started
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Julyish.
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that informed um some of their efforts
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the uh final EIS. And as the mayor and
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that the county council held a number of
hearings on the preferred alternative um

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and whether or not the boundary
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preferred alternative or not. Um in the
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council adopted a preferred alternative
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expansion.
Um so we put together our our ef our

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efforts relative to these you know
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Um we have worked with Angie and your
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determination for the city's
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plan. Um and it's going to be published
I believe the 14th. Angie knows the

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publication dates but it's it's
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comment period.
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um some commerce checklist. Next slide
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These are the these are the next steps.
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the county produced just you know really
a few weeks ago. Um we've been kind of

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toggling off that date to issue a city
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and then we have a commerce checklist
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that the the city cannot adopt a plan
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notice um and review period has been
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getting comments from them um as as
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there's a a checklist that that they
have us uh all of the cities do. So um

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we will be um scheduling with with work
with your staff. We'll be scheduling

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hearings with the planning commission
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council and uh we'll be adopting the
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latter part of October.

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we sit today. and Alec and I will be
happy to answer questions that you might

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have or issues that you might want to
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» Real quick, Marty, um I received an
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an update on the
I think it was an update on SEIPA

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addendum. Do you know anything about
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» Oh, yeah.
>> Can you explain because I had through

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and I I didn't quite capture
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get into the the nitty-gritty weeds of
things, but they have what's called a

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vacant buildable lands model where they
run a land capacity analysis of you have

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x number of acres and those x number of
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recalculations of of the housing counts

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from what they originally published and
it was like, oh, we need to make a

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correction here. I think I have that
same email. If I if I can find it here

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real quick.
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» I'll forward it over to you, Marty, just
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» Um, I think I have it. Does it show?
>> It's It's coming to your inbox now.

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Okay.
Fortunately, we don't I don't see

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anything in Lenner that made that made
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with uh changes to the to the um 80 to

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100 and 100 to 120 and then the number
of emergency beds that are for example

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that are um planned for in this
Vancouver UG which would be not city

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limits but places like Hazel and Fida
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Vancouver UG.
>> Okay. I'll look at your I'll look at

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your email just to be sure I'm talking
about the same addendum.

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» I I believe you are actually.
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Yeah. So, fortunately, you don't have a
yellow box.

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We have other we have other yellow boxes
to to just it's really an it's a it's

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probably as an addendum. It's it's a a
point of clarification to

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uh to make on these on these um
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» on these income bands. So,
>> okay. Thank you, Marty. Uh any

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questions,
>> council commission?

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» Yes, I have a question.
um on this um this little synopsis you

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just gave us. Does that have to do with
the 1500 pages? Is this just a synopsis

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of that 1500 pages that the county just
pass or put together as of July 26th?

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» Yeah, the 1500 pages. I'm I'm sure
you're referencing maybe the final EIS

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that they published.
>> Yes, that's uh from now through 20 uh

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45. Yeah. Right. Right.
>> And just just as a a bit of a

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maybe kind of coming back from the
beginning is um we did provide uh you

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with a a memo that it's not a deep dive.
It's kind of a like a shallow dive kind

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of um outlining some of the things that
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this slide deck, but it's less than the
comp plan itself because the comp plan

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and related documents hundreds of pages
more than likely. So,

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but yeah, the county the county is I'm
sure is voluminous and um it it also um

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they will capture all of the comments
that were submitted

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into the draft EIS and then and then as
they held their hearings on the

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preferred land use alternative, I'm sure
that they're capturing all of those

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comments from the public and from
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» Yes, I attended some of those meeting
and I put in my comments

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um when I hear talking about affordable
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ago at a city council meeting
>> that I talked about and shared many many

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things that happen when a builder is
trying to build that adds on to the

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expense of the building. So, I don't
know, you know, like for instance, uh

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00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:27,520
this one builder because they had the
white oak tree, they lost several lots

420
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:32,400
and it cost them hundreds of thousands
of dollars. Um there's a whole list. I

421
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:36,240
don't need to go through all this
because I just went through this list

422
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:41,200
two weeks ago when I was at city
council. So, I I have concerns of what

423
00:37:39,119 --> 00:37:45,760
how can a builder build affordable
housing when there's all there's all

424
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:50,800
kinds of delays or there's storm water
or there's the underground power. I

425
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:56,160
mean, the list just goes on and on. That
adds to the project of the house. And in

426
00:37:54,000 --> 00:38:02,240
Washington state,
uh what's considered affordable housing

427
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:08,000
is 30% of what you what your income is
for that year.

428
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:14,720
So um it's a tough question.
>> It's a very tough it's a very tough

429
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:20,880
issue and there are no simple solutions.
Um I I will say that you know land

430
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:27,440
supply has something to do with it. If
you constrain land supply,

431
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:31,680
land values and prices will go up. Um
that was one of the reasons you know the

432
00:38:29,599 --> 00:38:36,720
city was so intent on expanding the
boundary is to get a little bit more

433
00:38:33,359 --> 00:38:42,560
land in the in its capacity so that and
those lands that are served by public su

434
00:38:39,839 --> 00:38:49,520
uh sewer and water you can get more lots
on on on property. Um, there's also,

435
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:55,760
Alec mentioned this. Um, it's it's
minor, but it's it's a step in the right

436
00:38:52,079 --> 00:39:00,000
direction when you pay impact fees.
As long as I've known impact fees, you

437
00:38:57,839 --> 00:39:05,040
pay them at the time you you you pay for
your building permit. Well, if it's a

438
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:09,680
six-month build, you're paying carrying
costs on that six months, and you've

439
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:14,400
just added costs because you had to pay
the impact fee. If you say, "Hey, we're

440
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:18,880
not going to require the impact fee to
be paid until like occupancy,"

441
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:24,160
then you're not adding additional
carrying costs onto onto that project.

442
00:39:21,839 --> 00:39:29,920
So, there are few there are some things
that can be done.

443
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:35,680
Um, I know some other smaller cities are
are talking about whether or not a

444
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:40,880
housing land trust is something that
would be considered in the future, which

445
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:46,640
means I've seen this actually recently
where you basically buy the unit, but

446
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:51,680
you don't buy the land. And as you build
equity in the unit, you can sell the

447
00:39:48,720 --> 00:40:00,800
unit and and pull equity out, but the
land stays with the trust.

448
00:39:54,960 --> 00:40:08,560
So yeah um it's my editorial comment is
I see the prices of homes

449
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:14,079
precoid postcoid and it's shocking
absolutely shocking so um I think the

450
00:40:12,240 --> 00:40:20,560
other is that if you you know when you
have a development code that allows for

451
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:24,480
accessory dwelling units small lots
um that helps as well you get more

452
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:31,440
housing choice
and more housing units hopefully

453
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:35,119
staves off massive uh
price increases.

454
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:39,280
» That's kind of I've kind of
editorialized a bit, but I'll I'll

455
00:40:37,119 --> 00:40:45,760
finish with that.
>> I appreciate your comments. U my

456
00:40:43,599 --> 00:40:53,359
» question I guess is or statement is that
the key word there is the code has to

457
00:40:49,119 --> 00:40:57,440
allow for it. We still need to have a
seller, a buyer, a developer, and

458
00:40:55,920 --> 00:41:02,079
somebody else that actually wants to put
a project like that together. It's not

459
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:04,400
mandatory that it happens. The code just
has to allow for it. Is that

460
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:09,200
» correct? Correct.
>> Correct. Yeah.

461
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:13,760
» And the other piece very quickly is if
you have a community that has good

462
00:41:11,839 --> 00:41:17,760
paying jobs, that helps on the
affordability side, too. I mean,

463
00:41:15,359 --> 00:41:21,760
affordability is not just a a one-sided
street. It's a two-sided street. You

464
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:26,400
want to have jobs that pay well so that
people can afford. You know, younger

465
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:31,280
people, they get into a, you know, a
rental situation first. They might have

466
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:36,640
rent a duplex and eventually get into
home ownership. But the other equation

467
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:43,440
is to have jobs local in your community.
And it helps with, you know, commuting.

468
00:41:39,359 --> 00:41:47,280
My, as a again editorial, my older son
moved out of my house and he lives

469
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:52,000
downtown Vancouver because he works in
downtown Vancouver. And guess what?

470
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:57,280
you're saving a lot of money in gas and
insurance. So, there's something to be

471
00:41:54,319 --> 00:42:02,640
said of trying to attract local
employment for your for your residents.

472
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:07,760
» I know that I have worked on that and
I'm I think everybody on this council

473
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:09,680
has worked on trying to get uh jobs
locally here.

474
00:42:09,119 --> 00:42:14,319
» Yes.
>> So that people don't have to travel even

475
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:20,640
just traveling uh you know a half hour
drive to Vancouver or Portland. um this

476
00:42:18,079 --> 00:42:24,000
the gas and and the time because of the
traffic gets worse each year. So

477
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:30,960
» yes
>> um there there's a lot a lot to consider

478
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:35,680
and um when I saw this in in our packet
today I don't know if other people in

479
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:40,800
the planning commission here uh there's
this title 18 development code which

480
00:42:38,720 --> 00:42:44,560
that what we're going to have to follow.
So I asked Peter to print off a copy of

481
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:51,640
that because I wanted to study that.
What is it we have to that we have to do

482
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:51,640
that has been already been passed?

483
00:42:54,800 --> 00:43:01,880
» Yeah. Yeah, please. Yeah. Do we have a
microphone for Lance? Yeah, you can sit

484
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,880
over.

485
00:43:06,240 --> 00:43:13,359
» Clerks, can we can clerks? Can we get a
microphone over there? Thank you.

486
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:18,400
» Okay. This is not a complaint, just an
observation more than anything else. Um,

487
00:43:16,079 --> 00:43:25,200
looking at the comp plan, I looked at
the 2100 houses we're supposed to be at

488
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:34,720
at 2045 plus or right now. Um, it looks
like about 1131 of them or 53% are going

489
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:42,160
to be in the um, uh, the the area medium
income of 80% or above. Um, and what

490
00:43:38,079 --> 00:43:49,520
that does is it breaks down to 311 homes
of 268 to 418,000

491
00:43:45,280 --> 00:43:56,560
the selling price. 400 homes of 418,000
to 522,

492
00:43:52,240 --> 00:44:01,599
234, 627 and up. So when I looked at
that, it surprised me of how many town

493
00:43:59,599 --> 00:44:07,119
homes and multif family units we're
going to need to build based on the

494
00:44:04,720 --> 00:44:11,760
current estate based on the current
pricings of house houses. So just

495
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:17,520
something to think about. Then the other
side of it is is you know Alec already

496
00:44:14,319 --> 00:44:22,880
talked about the you know UG and the the
the lower income and housing and etc

497
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:27,520
those. So, just wanted to point out
there's going to be I was surprised that

498
00:44:25,119 --> 00:44:34,880
there were more
of the multi-medium density than there

499
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:39,040
would be low density homes.
>> Why does that surprise you though?

500
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:43,359
» Um
because of the the the raw number that

501
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:47,599
we have to grow. I thought that there
would be more single family homes, but

502
00:44:45,839 --> 00:44:51,760
based on where they talked about on the
map and where they would be versus etc.,

503
00:44:50,079 --> 00:44:56,160
it looks like this proportionate
appropriately, but I just wanted to make

504
00:44:54,160 --> 00:45:01,520
sure that we're aware of that.
>> Right. And so during the process, we had

505
00:44:59,119 --> 00:45:04,319
different uh scenarios that we had to
pick out of

506
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:08,319
» and that happens to be the scenario that
was chosen of it. So I I don't think

507
00:45:06,319 --> 00:45:11,040
anybody here is surprised by those
numbers, but Okay.

508
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:13,920
» Yeah. And if you notice, we're trying to
keep a lot of those numbers on that side

509
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,800
of the bridge as well, too.
>> Perfect.

510
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:19,599
» Yeah.
>> Okay. All right. That's all I had.

511
00:45:17,119 --> 00:45:24,240
» Thank you. Uh, any other questions or
comments,

512
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:28,160
planning commission? Anybody else?
Council.

513
00:45:26,079 --> 00:45:32,880
Okay. Uh, well, Marty, I think that's
good. I I appreciate the update tonight.

514
00:45:31,119 --> 00:45:37,040
Um, I look forward to hearing when this
is finalized and done because it's been

515
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:42,000
a very long and tedious process the last
three years.

516
00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:49,599
» Yes. Yes. Uh, I'll I'll commend uh the
mayor and council and staff uh

517
00:45:45,839 --> 00:45:55,359
enduring um a plan update that is more
than a year past the due date of June

518
00:45:52,880 --> 00:46:01,599
30, 2025.
Um it's been a trying

519
00:45:58,240 --> 00:46:07,920
uh collaboration I should say. Um and
the fortunate thing is that uh regarding

520
00:46:05,839 --> 00:46:12,640
the preferred land use alternative, you
know, mayor and council did a lot of

521
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:17,920
yman's work convincing county council
that the boundary expansion is the the

522
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:23,680
the right way to go for your your vision
and your your growth. So, I'm I was

523
00:46:20,720 --> 00:46:29,839
happy to see that. It was um touch and
go as the mayor would know for a while.

524
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:37,599
And yeah, we'll uh we'll coordinate with
uh Tracy and Angie on um planning

525
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:43,359
commission hearings leading to council
hearings in October. So,

526
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:45,599
» it'll be nice to uh get this over the
goal line.

527
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:49,359
» Well,
>> and then we wait and then we wait for

528
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:51,359
the appeals.
>> I don't mean to laugh. I don't mean to

529
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:55,920
laugh.
>> Let's not talk about appeals now.

530
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:58,960
» I won't those alone. Let's get let's get
it over the goal line and and we'll go

531
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:03,760
from there.
>> Oh, you do.

532
00:47:00,720 --> 00:47:08,640
» Uh to do to cover all these uh you know
preparedness, response, recovery

533
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:13,440
efforts, build resilence, impact fires,
floods, all that whole list. Then are we

534
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:18,960
going to hire more staff the city that
because that's a lot of work to put on

535
00:47:15,119 --> 00:47:23,280
Tracy and Angie? I'm It's just
>> She wears an S on her chest over there.

536
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:27,839
Supergirl.
>> This is Supergirl. That's a lot of stuff

537
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:33,040
to prepare. So,
>> extra staff and extra workshops or lots

538
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:37,920
of things to prepare for that.
>> Yeah, agreed.

539
00:47:36,079 --> 00:47:42,640
» Um, all right. Well, thank you, Marty.
Thank you, Alec. Appreciate tonight

540
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:47,040
» and we will be in touch and talk soon.
>> Okay. Have a great evening everyone.

541
00:47:44,720 --> 00:47:53,119
Thanks everyone. Have a great evening.
>> Thank you again. At 6:19, I would like

542
00:47:49,520 --> 00:48:00,680
to close the uh work session and adjourn
it. Thank you,

543
00:47:56,560 --> 00:48:00,680
» clerk. You can cancel the recording.

544
00:48:02,240 --> 00:48:06,839
» This conference will now be recorded.

545
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:52,440
Clerk, please start the recording.

546
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:04,880
» Are we good?
>> Okay, perfect. Today is Wednesday,

547
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:08,640
August 12th, 2026, and I'd like to call
tonight's uh city council meeting to

548
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:12,119
order. If we could all please rise for
the pledge of

549
00:49:09,119 --> 00:49:12,119
» allegiance

550
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:22,720
to the flag of the United States of
America and to the republic for which it

551
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:28,680
stands, one nation under God,
indivisible, with liberty and justice

552
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,680
for all.

553
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:36,640
Thank you, cler. Can I please have roll
call?

554
00:49:35,359 --> 00:49:38,800
» Council member Ravar,
>> present.

555
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:41,200
» Council member Casper,
>> I'm here.

556
00:49:39,599 --> 00:49:44,200
» Council member Bole,
>> present.

557
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:49,440
» Present.
>> Council member France,

558
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,599
» present.
>> Council member Cerviny,

559
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:55,280
» present.
>> And Mayor Strobin,

560
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:58,640
» I am here. Thank you, clerk. Thank you,
everyone.

561
00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:04,200
Clerk, can we please call up any public
comments from the audience?

562
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:04,200
» Alco,

563
00:50:16,720 --> 00:50:25,200
have you seen the Eagle come into town?
Yeah. Sitting there in the roundabout.

564
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:31,760
Boy, have we got a lot of comments on
that on Facebook. Boy, but you know what

565
00:50:29,599 --> 00:50:36,240
I want to talk about is that, you know,
whether you look or think it's great or

566
00:50:33,599 --> 00:50:40,640
not great or whatever, you know, I I
personally have my opinion. You know, I

567
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:45,760
you know, you know, it's an eagle. It's
looks pretty good. But I was up at the

568
00:50:43,839 --> 00:50:48,480
library and one of the girls there was
reading the reflector and everything and

569
00:50:47,119 --> 00:50:54,119
she turned around to me and looked and
said, "Wow, how much does this cost?"

570
00:50:56,079 --> 00:51:05,920
Well, you know, and so I asked around
and I don't know, you know, I mean, who

571
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:13,040
decided to get an eagle? I mean, all
these decisions were made and where'

572
00:51:08,720 --> 00:51:18,240
this transparency go. You know, I you
know, like I say, how much did it cost?

573
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:22,559
Nobody seems to know. And that that that
kind of bothers me a little bit. And so

574
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:26,480
anyway, I'm bringing that down from just
started with a conversation in the

575
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:31,440
library that he asking people. You know,
we're just not very transparent about

576
00:51:28,240 --> 00:51:35,760
that. Okay. Now that now on to something
that's near and dear to my heart. The

577
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:41,680
other day I was looking on Facebook and
somebody had a for sale sign for hay and

578
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:49,280
the city was pulling them up because it
didn't have the little sticker on them.

579
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:54,880
Well, this if you if you walk up West
14th from the city limit sign, there's

580
00:51:52,559 --> 00:51:59,119
all kinds of signs there that don't have
the little sticker, you know, and you go

581
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:04,559
down on the Pacific Highway, there's one
there with no sticker. And that's just a

582
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:09,599
symptom of the west. You live on the
west side of town. You know, are we

583
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:12,720
getting the public service or the police
protection that we need over there?

584
00:52:11,119 --> 00:52:17,280
Because you never see them folks over
there.

585
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:21,520
And you know, I don't know. You know,
are we are we single? You know, what's

586
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:25,440
what's on a sign? You know, I I know
that one sign's been there for at least

587
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:29,440
a month and the other one has been there
longer than that. and they're pulling

588
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:35,440
signs for some farmer trying to sell us
hay and you know leaving those alone out

589
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:39,920
there. You know, we're just not getting
the service we need out there. Let's

590
00:52:37,839 --> 00:52:45,680
see. Oh, this one was brought up
yesterday just because

591
00:52:42,319 --> 00:52:52,160
there just after you
cross the crosswalk

592
00:52:47,839 --> 00:52:57,440
to to what is that? Oh,
what is that? Cedar.

593
00:52:54,720 --> 00:53:01,760
There's a drainage there along the side
and evidently it's marked out so it

594
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:04,240
looks like you are going to fix it.
Well, somebody complained yesterday.

595
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:08,400
Well, they ought to put something around
there because you know I hid it every

596
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:13,359
time and would somebody please say
something at city council meeting. So

597
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:17,920
anyway, that's that's that's for Eric,
you know, but I drove by there without

598
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:21,520
getting a hump, but for some reason he
it's a pretty big drop there, but I'm

599
00:53:19,839 --> 00:53:26,000
sure because it's marked out that
they're going to eventually get to it.

600
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:31,880
Well, there's a concerned citizen that
wants it fixed now. Thank you. God bless

601
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,880
America.

602
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:41,119
» No more comments from the audience.
>> Thank you, clerk. Any of those uh public

603
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:43,520
comments from uh people calling in,
please press star six to unmute

604
00:53:42,319 --> 00:53:46,839
yourself. State your name and address
for the record.

605
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:57,760
» Clerk, do we have any callers?
None. Looking like it.

606
00:53:56,160 --> 00:54:01,280
» Clerk, do we have any public comments to
be read?

607
00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:05,839
» Uh, no public comments to be read.
>> Perfect. Thank you, clerk. That brings

608
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:10,720
us to the consent agenda. If there are
no requests for any items to be removed,

609
00:54:07,599 --> 00:54:13,359
can I have a motion?
>> Second.

610
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:17,680
» It's been moved and seconded. All those
in favor?

611
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:22,880
» I I
>> abstain.

612
00:54:19,280 --> 00:54:27,680
Motion passes. Thank you, council.
Okay, mayor's report. Tomorrow, August

613
00:54:25,599 --> 00:54:32,319
13th, we'll be hosting our blood drive
at city hall. You can sign up to donate

614
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:36,480
online at redcrossblood.org.
There are very few afternoon and evening

615
00:54:34,000 --> 00:54:40,720
time slots available. Donors will be
eligible to receive a $20 Amazon e gift

616
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:46,640
card on behalf of the American Red
Cross. Our rescheduled National Night

617
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:50,319
Out date is Tuesday, August 18th at
Holly Park from 4 to 6 PM. Stop by and

618
00:54:48,800 --> 00:54:54,319
visit with our local law enforcement,
first responders, and firefighters.

619
00:54:52,559 --> 00:54:58,480
There will be free hot dogs, drinks,
chips, root beer floats, and plenty of

620
00:54:56,079 --> 00:55:03,440
exciting activities. And I'd like to
extend a thank you to the PepsiCo and

621
00:55:00,559 --> 00:55:07,839
Roser for sponsoring the drinks and hot
dogs, as well as Free Delay and Lenter

622
00:55:06,079 --> 00:55:10,839
Lions for providing chips and root beer
floats.

623
00:55:11,359 --> 00:55:17,920
And if anybody would like to know the
cost of that, please give city hall a

624
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:21,599
call and we'll get you that record. The
Lewis River Mobile Food Bank will be at

625
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:26,240
the Wheel Club Community Center on the
4th Sunday of each month from 2 to 4

626
00:55:23,839 --> 00:55:30,000
p.m. The food bank is open to all. Their
next distribution date is Sunday, August

627
00:55:28,319 --> 00:55:33,920
23rd.
And this coming Sunday, we do have the

628
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:40,160
Lenter Farmers Market, which will be at
the Legacy Park. That's from uh 1:00

629
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:45,520
p.m. to 5:00 pm and it'll be from this
Sunday through October 25th. All right.

630
00:55:43,359 --> 00:55:50,960
Please come down, check it out. Uh maybe
pick up some vegetables for the week.

631
00:55:48,319 --> 00:55:53,760
That's all I have. Uh next up is the
attorney's report. Beth, are you with

632
00:55:52,799 --> 00:55:58,079
us?
>> I'm with you. Hello everybody. I'll keep

633
00:55:56,160 --> 00:56:02,160
it short. I don't have anything to add.
I hope everyone is enjoying the rest of

634
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:04,720
the summer weather. Please always feel
free to contact me if you have any

635
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:10,000
questions.
Perfect. Thank you, Beth. Council, any

636
00:56:06,720 --> 00:56:15,520
questions for the attorney?
>> All right. Next up is council comments.

637
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:20,480
Council member Varara.
>> Um, well, I'll mention that I was in

638
00:56:17,839 --> 00:56:24,319
Levvenworth uh for a couple of days
earlier.

639
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:28,799
I think it was what day of the week is
this? It was last week and it was for a

640
00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:33,280
budget budget meeting put on by
association Washington cities. It's

641
00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:39,599
interesting to get together with people
from other cities and hear how they're

642
00:56:36,559 --> 00:56:44,160
approaching uh things. And I know we
have at least one person in the audience

643
00:56:41,599 --> 00:56:48,400
tonight that frequently reminds me that
the budget is one of the most important

644
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:51,520
things I can pay attention to. So I was
grateful to be there.

645
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:54,960
» That's it.
>> Perfect. Thank you, Council Member.

646
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:59,440
Council member Casper.
>> Thank you. I don't have anything for the

647
00:56:56,799 --> 00:57:05,280
good of the order, so I'll pass my time
along. Thank you, Council Member Bole.

648
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:10,480
» Uh, hello everyone. I don't know if you
can hear me well or not, but um I did an

649
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:15,599
impromptu trip to Mount Reineer with the
kids. We're doing some camping, but I

650
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:24,079
hope everybody's having a good night.
>> Thank you, Council Member France.

651
00:57:19,599 --> 00:57:27,760
» Well, July 13th, I attended the EMS um
District 2 board, which is the one of

652
00:57:26,079 --> 00:57:34,160
the committees that I'm on. I don't have
anything to report from that, but I like

653
00:57:30,319 --> 00:57:40,720
to bring that up. Um, also in reading
this book, Little by Little, uh, 13 Ways

654
00:57:38,079 --> 00:57:44,319
to Kill Your Community,
and the reason I'm reading is because so

655
00:57:42,319 --> 00:57:51,839
we can do the opposite of that. Uh, Doug
Griffith gave a fantastic talk at the

656
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:58,000
um, AWC, Associated Washington Cities
training that I went to the end of June.

657
00:57:55,040 --> 00:58:01,920
And um one of the things that we this
city does, I'm so there's a lot of

658
00:57:59,839 --> 00:58:06,000
things this city does that I'm proud of
to as a matter of fact, but one of the

659
00:58:04,319 --> 00:58:11,359
things that they've started now is going
to be the junior city council. I think

660
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:16,400
that's very important. This this book
talks about involving young people as

661
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:21,359
well as uh involving older people in
your community. Um, the other thing that

662
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:24,240
they talk about is that people don't
they just don't communicate anymore

663
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:29,119
because they're just on their cell
phones all the time. And so, um, eight

664
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:32,720
or nine days ago when I was invited to
an open house, I attended and a lot of

665
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:37,599
people showed up for that. And I
thought, what a fun way to get your

666
00:58:35,119 --> 00:58:42,160
neighbors out and just come and sit
around and visit and and everybody

667
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:49,119
brought some food and have some food.
Well, then um just last week I got a

668
00:58:45,920 --> 00:58:52,400
text from one of our citizens that said
uh come on over to our block party and

669
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:56,720
I'm like, "Well, I'm not going to miss a
party." So, I went to that and it was

670
00:58:54,640 --> 00:59:00,720
awesome. I couldn't believe it. I
thought it was an HOA party. It wasn't.

671
00:58:58,799 --> 00:59:07,520
It's just a block party they have every
year. And there was tons of food and and

672
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:10,559
desserts. And there was 42 people there
that were just sitting around. They've

673
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:15,359
been doing this every year just having a
great time. This is all stuff that I

674
00:59:13,119 --> 00:59:19,280
want to foster that I think in our
communities where you get to know each

675
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:25,359
other other than just texting or calling
each other. Um I w I was really really

676
00:59:22,079 --> 00:59:32,240
impressed. So I happened to bring my uh
city council cards and pass them around

677
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:37,599
and I said if you have any questions or
complaints or uh anything positive too

678
00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:41,920
is always nice and email me at this
address because then I have can keep

679
00:59:39,280 --> 00:59:45,280
track of it. if you just call me then,
you know, I don't have any way to track

680
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:50,960
it that, you know, this citizen
complained about this or was happy about

681
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:58,400
that. And so, um, going around talking
those those 42 people, a huge huge issue

682
00:59:55,200 --> 01:00:02,720
is the electric bikes and the go-karts
and where they live. There's this trail

683
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:06,960
behind their house and they just run
tear up and down that road. And I I

684
01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:14,000
walked out there and I could see you
could see the dirt bike um you know the

685
01:00:10,079 --> 01:00:17,680
the imprints and uh and one of them even
showed me some pictures. There were some

686
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:21,920
impressive go-karts. Those things must
have cost a fortune. Either that or

687
01:00:19,760 --> 01:00:26,160
they're really good at building things.
And I actually printed the picture off

688
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:31,119
and forgot to bring it with me tonight.
So, I will be showing that to you

689
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:37,599
because um I don't know about having
go-karts that you know running up and

690
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:41,280
down these streets and even the the dirt
trail where people are saying they're

691
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:45,599
they're going out walking and they're
almost getting hit by either electric

692
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:52,480
somebody on electric bike or by a on a
go-kart. So, I know that if I got run

693
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:56,720
over by a go-kart
wouldn't be so good, but um cuz I've

694
01:00:55,119 --> 01:01:02,720
already had a couple car accidents that
that was bad enough. But I was excited

695
01:00:59,599 --> 01:01:07,119
that people are engaging and they're
telling me the stuff that's going on so

696
01:01:04,799 --> 01:01:11,839
that I can turn around and and report
it. Uh because I think it should be

697
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:17,359
looked into or some ordinance is
created, which we're talking about

698
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:21,680
doing. And um so I'm I'm glad about
that. I got a phone call yesterday,

699
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:25,839
somebody with a complaint because the
code enforcement hadn't gotten back to

700
01:01:23,359 --> 01:01:31,280
them. So just things like this, our city
council wants to be involved and we want

701
01:01:28,559 --> 01:01:36,720
the city to be in the citizens to be
involved with us too. The other thing

702
01:01:33,599 --> 01:01:43,359
that I went to on uh this was a couple
weeks ago. I don't know if you reme

703
01:01:39,040 --> 01:01:49,440
remember a car Carol Landwear came here
and gave a talk about community court.

704
01:01:46,559 --> 01:01:56,319
Well, she had a community court at the
battleground uh municipal courthouse and

705
01:01:53,440 --> 01:02:01,200
she had all these people that have drug
and alcohol addictions. they graduated

706
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:05,359
from their class and it was very
impressive to see these people and me

707
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:09,599
being a retired jailer I love it when I
see people are being successful in their

708
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:14,319
lives and getting either mental health
or uh addictions getting help with that

709
01:02:12,559 --> 01:02:18,160
and not have to keep coming back and
forth through the system getting

710
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:23,680
arrested and in and out of jail all the
time. So, it was very impressive and um

711
01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:28,480
very thankful to get invited to
something like that and see something

712
01:02:25,119 --> 01:02:32,960
positive happening and I guess I can
quit talking now.

713
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:38,400
But I just was excited about the things
that I had to share. And uh you know I

714
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:44,079
just see really good things happening in
our city and also of these 42 people

715
01:02:41,839 --> 01:02:49,920
most of all all of them said really
positive things about our days and about

716
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:55,040
the eagle and um really positive things
about the park and make my milk and some

717
01:02:53,440 --> 01:03:00,319
of them said what was that from and I
explained that and now we've had our

718
01:02:57,280 --> 01:03:04,559
third third cart coming in. a lot of
positive talk about that. Very happy

719
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:08,000
because there's a couple negative things
on Facebook, but you know, people get

720
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:11,040
really brave on Facebook. They just say
whatever they want,

721
01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:15,039
» but in person when they're telling
saying you all these positive things,

722
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:20,079
it's pretty cool. So, that's it.
>> You sure?

723
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:25,920
» Yeah. Well, I can talk longer, but
>> thank you, Counselor Cery.

724
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:29,920
» I don't have anything to add.
You know, it's it's nice to hear about

725
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:35,039
the the some of the positive. We get a
lot of negative uh sitting up here um

726
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:40,799
from residents or people that walk in
and talk at the podium. Um and it gets

727
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:45,119
it does wear on you. It wears on you,
you know, because the city, the staff,

728
01:03:43,359 --> 01:03:50,240
uh the volunteers, they're working their
rears off and it shows. And for those

729
01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:55,039
that just come up and just complain,
which we have the chronic people that do

730
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:57,920
so, uh I hope for one day they open
their eyes and actually take a look

731
01:03:56,319 --> 01:04:01,920
around and see how beautiful this city
actually is and the people and the

732
01:03:59,599 --> 01:04:06,319
effort that goes into it because it's
tremendous.

733
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:13,119
You know, our festivals are are growing
bigger and stronger and better each

734
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:18,160
year. Um baseball is exploding. Uh uh
we've got new parks. Um, we've got a

735
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:22,640
police force that does protect our city.
Uh, you know, whether people want to

736
01:04:20,559 --> 01:04:26,960
negate that or not, that's up to them.
Um, we've got counselors that are very

737
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:32,400
involved in all aspects of city
government. We've got a city staff that

738
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:37,119
puts in tirelessly amounts of work every
single day. You know, when you were

739
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:40,319
saying that in our work session that uh
we're going to have to hire more people

740
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:44,640
for all that. No, no. What we do is we
just keep putting these hats on and we

741
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:48,799
keep going because, you know, I you
can't raise taxes enough to to hire the

742
01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:50,960
amount of people that it actually takes,
right? Or you're not going to have

743
01:04:49,839 --> 01:04:56,160
residents and you're going to have a
line of unhappy people. So, you know,

744
01:04:53,920 --> 01:05:01,680
hearing the the positive attributes that
you just gave uh to staff in the city

745
01:04:59,839 --> 01:05:05,680
itself, I I I got to thank you because
that's that's amazing. And I I wish more

746
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:09,039
people would take a look at it. Sure,
we're going to have our faults. Every

747
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:14,000
person has faults. We're human. Uh we're
not perfect. We try our best and and we

748
01:05:11,599 --> 01:05:19,920
keep going forward. But our city is
stunning and the overall responses that

749
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:24,480
I see out there is people commending,
boy, I wish I could live in Le Center.

750
01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:27,920
So with that,
>> don't forget the music at Stern Wheeler

751
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:32,559
Park. I know people that are coming from
Bonavville down to listen to that music.

752
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:36,160
» Telling you, we live in a very fortunate
community

753
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:42,079
and it's doing better every single day
and we're going to keep it that way.

754
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:45,599
Okay, enough of my soap box. We do have
staff reports tonight. We have public

755
01:05:43,599 --> 01:05:50,839
works and community uh development staff
report. Uh Miss Tracy Coleman will be

756
01:05:47,359 --> 01:05:50,839
presenting. Tracy,

757
01:05:52,640 --> 01:06:01,680
» thank you, Mayor Council. Okay, so in
regards to uh public works operations,

758
01:05:59,039 --> 01:06:05,839
our rideway mower is back in service.
I'm so excited for that. So we can start

759
01:06:03,599 --> 01:06:10,000
getting caught up on our rideway mowing.
And if you notice, they're out there

760
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:14,480
doing that now. So, I'm excited to say
that. We also ordered a new flailer and

761
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:18,720
that will be coming in in the next week
or so. So, um we'll be able to play a

762
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:21,119
little bit of catchup. Road striping, if
everybody noticed, has occurred this

763
01:06:20,079 --> 01:06:25,599
last week and we're going to have
continuing more some more road striping

764
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:29,760
with our safety project, our horizontal
curve project. So, you'll see some more

765
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:33,039
striping coming on in the city. The
construction of the new public workshop

766
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:37,760
is nearing completion. We did a
walkthrough for the final punch list.

767
01:06:35,119 --> 01:06:42,319
So, we're working on that. Staff, as you
are aware, installed the 250th

768
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:47,760
anniversary com commemorative eagle
statue, as everybody is aware. Um, we do

769
01:06:46,319 --> 01:06:52,720
have an approved budget every year and
that budget approval did include an art

770
01:06:50,319 --> 01:06:59,359
project in there. the art project. There
are multiple art projects in this budget

771
01:06:55,200 --> 01:07:04,960
and um the purpose of the statue was to
surprise the residents of Le Center with

772
01:07:02,799 --> 01:07:08,640
something to commemorate the 250th
anniversary of the celebration of

773
01:07:06,799 --> 01:07:12,640
independence. And so if you wanted to
see how much uh we can spend on art

774
01:07:11,200 --> 01:07:18,160
projects, that's in the approved budget
of 2025. And we have not exceeded that.

775
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:21,839
In addition to the Eagle, we have other
art projects that are coming forward.

776
01:07:20,079 --> 01:07:27,200
Uh, one of the projects that you can see
is installed in Legacy Park and that is

777
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:32,160
the redo of the story pole. So, that's
been done and then we have um grants

778
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:35,039
that are coming in as well for our art
projects in the city. So, hopefully

779
01:07:33,839 --> 01:07:41,200
people will take a look at the budget
and see what we had budgeted for that.

780
01:07:37,599 --> 01:07:44,400
In regards to the legacy park, as you
know, we have two food trucks that are

781
01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:48,880
already open. They're bringing revenue
into the parks for us. We have another

782
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:54,000
one scheduled to come in this Friday and
they will be in operation on the 17th.

783
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:57,760
That is a Thai uh food truck which will
be good and a little bit more variety

784
01:07:55,440 --> 01:08:01,599
here within the city. Our bathroom
doors, we do realize uh they are metal

785
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:05,520
doors and they do get hot when they're
facing the sun. So, we're looking at

786
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:08,960
some alternative paint to put on those
to keep those from getting too hot. So,

787
01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:13,039
we're kind of working out some of the
quirks at the park right now and kind of

788
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:18,319
getting everything finalized. So, kind
of bear with us as we go. If you notice

789
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:22,480
over there right now, we installed a new
other piece of artwork on the top of the

790
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:27,359
building. So, if you haven't seen that,
go over and look at that. I think it's a

791
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:32,640
great commemor commemorative statement
as to the Makeine Milk building. We

792
01:08:29,759 --> 01:08:35,839
installed fans. Uh the fans are remote
controlled, so we're trying to get those

793
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:40,000
wired up so you can flip them on with a
switch. Every time now you flip it off,

794
01:08:38,239 --> 01:08:43,279
you have to go and turn the fan back on.
So, we're working on that. We're also

795
01:08:41,839 --> 01:08:46,960
working on putting in, we've had a lot
of complaints about the park, so we're

796
01:08:45,199 --> 01:08:50,640
putting in a split rail fence next to
the playground so people maybe don't

797
01:08:49,279 --> 01:08:56,400
have to watch their children as much to
go out into the road. Uh we can help

798
01:08:52,400 --> 01:09:02,000
protect them from that. The um let's
see, the other things we're working on

799
01:08:58,719 --> 01:09:06,000
is uh a mop room for the food carts. We
do have one that's in the building

800
01:09:03,839 --> 01:09:09,920
itself that we're using temporarily. Um,
we're also working on installing a large

801
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:14,880
propane tank so we don't have multiple
propane tanks out for the food vendors.

802
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:18,640
And we um,
yeah, that's about it for for there on

803
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:23,199
public works. In regards to storm water,
we applied for a grant for a storm water

804
01:09:21,279 --> 01:09:26,640
pipe uh, over there on the frontier. As
you know, we have the storm water pipe

805
01:09:24,480 --> 01:09:31,120
that has uh, failed and we've been
trying to get money for that. That's a

806
01:09:28,239 --> 01:09:37,679
about a $1.4 million project cost. We
applied for a grant. It's kind of a It's

807
01:09:34,159 --> 01:09:40,799
partial grant, partial loan. So, um
we're not sure if we're going to get it.

808
01:09:38,719 --> 01:09:43,839
We didn't get it last year, but I just
want you to know that we have applied

809
01:09:42,319 --> 01:09:47,440
for that and we're we're working towards
trying to get that fixed, but it's a

810
01:09:45,440 --> 01:09:50,560
it's a big cost in our budget, but we're
doing the best we can to try to move

811
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:55,360
forward on that and hopefully hoping
that the good Lord stays with us and it

812
01:09:52,880 --> 01:09:58,719
doesn't fail in the interim. Uh swailes
and wetlands are being mowed as time

813
01:09:57,199 --> 01:10:02,960
allows as well because a lot of those
have to be weed eated. we can't use our

814
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:06,480
rightway mower. In regards to the
wastewater treatment plant, we have also

815
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:10,560
applied for two grants there to help
with some of the funding. They're very,

816
01:10:08,480 --> 01:10:14,960
very low interest rate loans. They're
about a half a percent. Uh public works

817
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:17,679
trust fund and I think the Department of
Ecology are the two. So, we've applied

818
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:23,199
for grants there. I think they're
totaling about $3 million. But all the

819
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:28,320
plant parameters remains well within the
compliance of the NPDES permit. Our

820
01:10:26,239 --> 01:10:35,280
influent number two screen has been
disassembled and rebuilt. Our ultrasonic

821
01:10:31,440 --> 01:10:39,199
sensor level sensor failed and at pump
station number two. And so the new

822
01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:42,560
sensor has arrived and we'll replace it
this week. We're almost done with that.

823
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:46,000
Utility water pump 2 has been
reinstalled and returned to service. I

824
01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:49,920
reported on that last month. And two
pumps from Riverside Lift Station and

825
01:10:47,679 --> 01:10:54,400
the process basin have been pulled and
being rebuilt.

826
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:59,360
We have a follow-up replacement for our
variable frequency drive that's been

827
01:10:56,080 --> 01:11:03,040
installed in the ASSB blower and has now
returned to full operation. An

828
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:07,840
engineering report has been submitted to
the Department of Ecology on July 22nd.

829
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:12,159
They have 60 days to respond. The
deadline is September 26th. When they

830
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:16,560
respond and they give us approval, we
can proceed with ordering the MBRS, the

831
01:11:14,560 --> 01:11:19,679
screw press, so on and so forth once we
have approval from them so we can move

832
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:24,640
forward on the capital projects that
were approved in our general sewer plan.

833
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:29,520
In regards to engineering, as you guys
know, Four Street project is ongoing.

834
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:33,199
You you uh drive by it every day and you
get a little bit of delays in there, but

835
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:39,600
we thank you for your patience as we uh
continue to work on that project. and

836
01:11:36,480 --> 01:11:42,400
also for the four street widening Breezy
Creek. Same thing. So, they used to be

837
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:48,480
the same project, but now they've been
separated as you know. One's one's for

838
01:11:44,480 --> 01:11:51,760
the the um signal itself on Ivy and
Fourth and then the other one is actual

839
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:58,000
widening including a new covert
replacement across the creek

840
01:11:54,719 --> 01:12:04,560
shared use path. Uh that is we are
interviewing engineers next week for

841
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:07,920
wash dot so we can go out to bid. Once
we get the engineers and we select the

842
01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:12,719
engineer, we can actually go out to bid
on that project. We're still hoping to

843
01:12:10,480 --> 01:12:17,360
go out to bid later this month and have
an award at the September council

844
01:12:14,719 --> 01:12:22,719
meeting so we can start that project.
The safety grant is in going on right

845
01:12:20,480 --> 01:12:26,800
now in the city of Le Center. As you can
see, there's additional signs being

846
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:30,800
added. There's additional guard rails
being added. We have increased

847
01:12:28,480 --> 01:12:35,760
reflectors um that are be going to be
going on in the roads. Uh L center road

848
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:40,239
will have a nice uh it's not going to be
a torch down. It's um what's the name of

849
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:45,360
it? If it's not torch down, somebody
help me out here. No, let me think here.

850
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:49,600
It's uh same thing I did on my
crosswalks.

851
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:51,520
Come on, you guys. I reported on this
>> 88.

852
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:54,239
» Yeah. What is it?
>> The ADA?

853
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:58,239
» No, I I'll come back to it. But I'll
remember it. I'm having a brain fart.

854
01:12:56,159 --> 01:13:02,080
Okay. And then also if you notice when
you're turning off of Le Center Road and

855
01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:05,520
you go on to Timmans Road, there is a
curb that is has been placed there. That

856
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:09,520
was part of the safety project because
people are turning off of Lenter Road

857
01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:13,040
and turning wide on Timmans Road or
trucks are coming off of Timmans Road

858
01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:18,000
and turning wide on Lenter Road, cutting
traffic off. So we have a curb that's

859
01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:21,199
been placed in there. Uh let's see. The
tribe the roundabout design is on hold

860
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:25,199
right now. We're waiting to hear back
from the tribe. They are looking at the

861
01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:28,640
their property whether they're going to
allow us to build a retaining wall or if

862
01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:34,320
we're going to slope back that property
which is where the make milk building

863
01:13:30,159 --> 01:13:39,920
used to be. Uh let's see downtown 2.0
the archaeological cultural resource

864
01:13:36,480 --> 01:13:43,679
study right now is out and uh DAP came
back. Everything was good with that.

865
01:13:41,199 --> 01:13:48,080
It's out with the tribal. There's four
different tribes it goes to. We should

866
01:13:45,440 --> 01:13:52,560
hear back from them in a couple weeks so
we can move forward on that. May I speak

867
01:13:50,239 --> 01:13:57,120
in regards to the groundbreaking? Okay.
So, we're going to have a groundbreaking

868
01:13:53,840 --> 01:13:59,760
ceremony on September 17th at what time,
Mayor?

869
01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:03,360
» It's going to be between 3:30 and 5.
>> Okay. Between 3:35. We'll give you

870
01:14:01,440 --> 01:14:06,880
another update this next month, but put
that on your calendar to be out there.

871
01:14:05,440 --> 01:14:10,239
In the building department, Steven
Hillside has 13 homes under

872
01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:16,239
construction. Lockwood Meadows has 10.
Urban Meadows has eight. Golden Grove

873
01:14:12,159 --> 01:14:21,360
has 11. And exit 16 Sips and Scoops is
in the final stages of completion. and

874
01:14:18,960 --> 01:14:26,960
Paradise Park Fairfield Hotel foundation
and pool concrete are completed for the

875
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:32,320
first floor and flame flaming framing is
in progress. Make my milk building is

876
01:14:29,440 --> 01:14:36,960
completed. We actually have the roofing
done and like I said the art piece on

877
01:14:35,520 --> 01:14:41,520
top of there. You want to go out there
and take a look at that. And then we

878
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:45,199
have um recognition coming for the arts
council that'll be installed this week.

879
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:48,880
And then we have the gutters going down
next week going on the building next

880
01:14:46,960 --> 01:14:54,480
week. Code enforcement. There were 23
new cases opened. Of those 15 of outside

881
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:58,640
of the 23 that were open, we had 15 that
we closed and there are currently 14

882
01:14:56,400 --> 01:15:02,960
open cases. In regards to the community
development, we have received new

883
01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:09,120
applications in June, changing the total
amount this year to 25 land

884
01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:15,840
applications. And we have in residential
a total of 37 this year in other 49 with

885
01:15:12,239 --> 01:15:20,640
a total of 115 to date. And just so you
know, the July numbers represent about

886
01:15:17,679 --> 01:15:24,880
90% of on track compared to last year.
And we received a large subdivision

887
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:28,080
application and three other applications
that will be in next month's reporting

888
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:33,360
that should put us on target, if not
over budget for our revenue that we're

889
01:15:30,480 --> 01:15:36,159
expected to receive. That's all I got.
>> You sure?

890
01:15:34,239 --> 01:15:40,719
» I think so. I can keep going, but I only
read about a quarter of the report.

891
01:15:39,199 --> 01:15:46,719
» All right. Thank you, Tracy. Uh,
council, any questions or comments for

892
01:15:42,239 --> 01:15:53,400
Tracy? I remember you talking about that
application,

893
01:15:48,239 --> 01:15:53,400
but I cannot remember what it is either.

894
01:15:54,159 --> 01:15:58,880
» It'll come to me. I'll just blurt it
out. Just give me some time.

895
01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:03,520
» Well, let's hope you don't do it during
the WSP contract.

896
01:16:01,679 --> 01:16:09,040
All right. Any questions, comments,
concern for Tracy Council?

897
01:16:06,480 --> 01:16:12,960
» Just thank you, Tracy. I I really
appreciate all the work that you do.

898
01:16:11,199 --> 01:16:16,400
That park's looking amazing, isn't it?
>> Oh, man.

899
01:16:13,679 --> 01:16:19,199
» Yeah. Yeah. Did we get the uh plaque for
the museum? Yep.

900
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:22,080
» Uh we have received it. We'll be
installing it this week. All right. Yep.

901
01:16:20,719 --> 01:16:25,280
We have two different things that we're
putting up there for the museum.

902
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:30,719
» Okay.
Uh, oh, and just a reminder, if anybody

903
01:16:27,679 --> 01:16:34,159
sees the photos of the mayors on that
board at the Make Mind Milk building, if

904
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:38,400
you guys know of anybody that has the
missing photos of those mayors, please

905
01:16:36,239 --> 01:16:42,560
contact city hall so we can get those
photos up there to give them the

906
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:47,520
recognition they deserve. Okay, next up
we have the WSP contract amendment.

907
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:51,679
Tracy Coleman will be presenting again.
Tracy,

908
01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:55,199
» thermoplastic.
Thermoplastic is what's being put on the

909
01:16:53,280 --> 01:17:00,080
roads, which is better than torch down
or paint. Look that up. Okay.

910
01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:05,360
» So, she did it right during the WSP
thing, like I said. Right.

911
01:17:03,440 --> 01:17:12,320
» All right. It was before, mayor. It was
before. So, this basically this is a

912
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:15,679
contract amendment to WSP for the scope
of work on the comprehensive plan and

913
01:17:13,760 --> 01:17:20,159
development regulation periodic update.
Uh, I want to give big kudos out to

914
01:17:17,679 --> 01:17:25,120
Angie Morurell who has applied for a
second grant for us. H that has allowed

915
01:17:23,199 --> 01:17:29,679
us to pay for some of the contract costs
for WSP. The first one she got last year

916
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:34,239
of 36 and this one she got this year was
$22,000. So that's and that's what this

917
01:17:32,480 --> 01:17:38,719
contract amendment is going to be paid
for if council approves it. So thank you

918
01:17:36,480 --> 01:17:43,920
Angie for doing that. The city signed a
professional service agreement with WSP

919
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:48,960
in February of 2000 February 12th 2024
and it was for 241,498.

920
01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:52,159
The agreement was for them to provide
project management, community

921
01:17:50,239 --> 01:17:55,840
engagement, public involvement periodic
update, seer review, planning commission

922
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:59,600
and city council coordination adoption
for that comprehensive plan. They

923
01:17:57,760 --> 01:18:03,760
represented tonight. So you can see the
update of the final comprehensive plan

924
01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:07,840
that we're hoping to adopt. The
amendment number one that we had for

925
01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:12,080
them due to delays because of the county
was in June 24th of 25 for an additional

926
01:18:10,239 --> 01:18:16,960
89,917.
This totally came out of our our uh

927
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:21,600
general funds and that made the new
contract total of 331415.

928
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:26,239
They're asking for an additional
amendment as we're getting close to the

929
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:29,280
dollar amounts being spent. the update
of the city of LA center comprehensive

930
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:32,719
plan and development regulations to meet
the mandated update requirements which

931
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:36,800
were required now by the department of
commerce. Additionally, there have been

932
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:41,440
county delays still in adoption of the
comprehensive plan and with the land the

933
01:18:39,440 --> 01:18:46,080
preferred land use alternative vacant
biddable lands model that we're working

934
01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:50,159
with um for updates in GIS and envir and
an environmental impact statement which

935
01:18:48,159 --> 01:18:53,600
Clark County just sent out and is
currently in the comment period. So the

936
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:58,320
county is more than a year behind which
has caused cost increases for all the

937
01:18:55,760 --> 01:19:02,880
cities not just us. So this additional
services that they're asking for uh to

938
01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:08,239
complete was in the paragraph that I
just read above. They're sk see seeking

939
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:12,480
to increase their contract amount to the
maximum amount of what we received in

940
01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:16,880
the grant which is 22,219.
And that contract would then not exceed

941
01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:20,239
353,634.
So we're nearing that home stretch and

942
01:19:18,719 --> 01:19:24,480
we're hoping that the county adopts us
by year end. But that's basically what

943
01:19:22,480 --> 01:19:30,400
this amendment is for. They wouldn't
exceed that and um the budget impact

944
01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:36,080
wouldn't be in in effect as far as we go
from the general funds because of

945
01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:43,000
Angie's grant that she obtained for us.
>> Thank you, Tracy. Thank you, Angie.

946
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:43,000
Council, any questions, comments?

947
01:19:44,480 --> 01:19:51,760
» If not, I will entertain a motion. All
move to authorize approval of an

948
01:19:49,199 --> 01:19:56,640
increase in the WSP comprehensive plan
and development regulation periodic

949
01:19:54,480 --> 01:20:03,679
update contract not to exceed an
additional $22,219

950
01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:06,679
with contract contract maximum price of
$353,634

951
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:15,400
contract expiration date to remain
December 31st 2026.

952
01:20:16,239 --> 01:20:21,040
I'll second.
>> It's been moved and seconded. All those

953
01:20:19,679 --> 01:20:27,400
in favor?
>> I I

954
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:27,400
» I didn't hear council member Bo's vote.

955
01:20:29,199 --> 01:20:35,040
» He's going to say
>> council.

956
01:20:31,120 --> 01:20:39,280
» I I Okay, thank you. Uh opposed.
>> Abstain.

957
01:20:36,719 --> 01:20:43,520
Motion passes. Thank you, council. Thank
you, Angie, for going out for that

958
01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:47,840
grant. We appreciate it. We really do.
Uh, thank you again Tracy for the

959
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:51,280
report. Hey, that moves us to
ordinances, resolutions, and public

960
01:20:49,520 --> 01:20:58,640
hearings. We do have a public hearing
ordinance 2026-10 MDR16 code update. Mr.

961
01:20:56,159 --> 01:21:02,400
Brian Cast will be presenting. Brian,
are you with us?

962
01:21:00,239 --> 01:21:05,040
» I am. Mr. Mayor, can you hear me?
>> I can.

963
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:07,920
» We can hear you loud.
>> Mic is yours.

964
01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:13,199
» Very good.
Uh so before council this evening is a

965
01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:20,640
proposed code change to the city's MDR
code uh MDR16 code. Uh currently the

966
01:21:16,480 --> 01:21:24,719
code states that um in order to foster
an opportunity for the creation of a

967
01:21:22,719 --> 01:21:27,760
variety of housing products and to
promote housing affordability,

968
01:21:26,159 --> 01:21:34,719
architectural variety, and unique
neighborhood character. uh MDR projects

969
01:21:30,719 --> 01:21:41,120
which are over 10 acres or more um must
include uh 75 no more than 75% of one

970
01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:45,920
housing type. Um so for example, if you
have a 10acre project um you're trying

971
01:21:43,440 --> 01:21:49,440
to do a detached single family uh you
have to have at least 25% of either

972
01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:54,880
multifamily
uh like apartments or uh town homes like

973
01:21:53,280 --> 01:22:01,120
an attached product or something like
that. Um we've heard feedback from

974
01:21:58,159 --> 01:22:05,760
property owners, from developers um at
both the planning commission and city

975
01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:09,040
council meetings that um it can be a
challenge to meet this requirement on

976
01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:14,159
smaller projects sort of in that 10 to
20 acre size. Um you know for the most

977
01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:17,760
part they're trying to focus on one
product type for those size of

978
01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:21,920
developments and then you end up with
sort of this required 25% of just a few

979
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:26,560
units of this other type which often
doesn't seem to really fit the

980
01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:29,360
neighborhood character. Um, also, you
know, we've heard from neighbors that,

981
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:34,080
you know, they prefer to kind of just
see more of a uniform project, um,

982
01:22:32,159 --> 01:22:37,199
without, you know, sort of this mix of
product type. And also, um, we've heard

983
01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:43,120
from developers that, you know, these
sort of required few units, um, that are

984
01:22:40,719 --> 01:22:49,199
put in there can be difficult to market
and sell. Um so at um not last night's

985
01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:52,800
planning commission meeting but two uh
last month's planning commission meeting

986
01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:57,760
uh we also had some public testimony and
at that time planning commission asked

987
01:22:54,480 --> 01:23:01,280
that um some code uh revisions be
proposed. We brought those uh this

988
01:22:59,920 --> 01:23:06,400
proposed revision to the planning
commission last night and they voted

989
01:23:03,679 --> 01:23:11,360
unanimously to recommend to council to
uh approve this change and the change is

990
01:23:09,199 --> 01:23:17,040
really very simple. Uh the only change
to the code language is to change that

991
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:23,600
uh number 10 for 10 gross acres to 20 uh
gross acres. And this change will, you

992
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:28,400
know, allow basically um projects that
are required to meet this mix of housing

993
01:23:25,440 --> 01:23:33,360
types to have a little bit more units um
so that they can better integrate them

994
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:38,719
into the neighborhood and um you know
have a a project that is more in line

995
01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:42,880
with what the city uh council and
planning commission would like to see.

996
01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:47,760
So with that, I'm happy to answer any
questions that the council may have u

997
01:23:44,639 --> 01:23:53,520
before uh opening the public hearing.
Thank you, Brian. Uh, council,

998
01:23:51,040 --> 01:23:58,800
» we got feedback. You got feedback.
>> Council,

999
01:23:56,080 --> 01:24:02,960
» I have a comment or two.
>> I think what's being proposed makes

1000
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:08,080
sense, but I have a couple of questions
regardless. I'm curious. Are there any

1001
01:24:05,679 --> 01:24:12,000
pending projects currently being
contemplated

1002
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:17,280
that will likely go forward with this
change and perhaps would not if the

1003
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:23,280
change were not made?
Um we do have one project that's

1004
01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:26,639
underway, but I believe that they um
this code change will not apply to them.

1005
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:30,239
They're already vested to the old code
and will be um you know it's a little

1006
01:24:28,639 --> 01:24:36,080
bit larger project I believe. So they
will be uh providing that 25%. at

1007
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:41,840
planning commission uh last night. Uh
Angie, our planner, pulled up a map. And

1008
01:24:39,280 --> 01:24:45,600
I think the other property that this uh
potentially could apply to that's

1009
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:51,120
currently zoned MDR16 is out there at
the Timman uh landing sub area. Um

1010
01:24:49,360 --> 01:24:54,320
there's, you know, part of that that's
zoned, I believe, high density

1011
01:24:52,480 --> 01:24:59,199
residential and a portion of it that's
zoned medium density residential and I

1012
01:24:57,120 --> 01:25:04,239
believe that the medium density portion
is exceeds the 10 acre threshold. So, if

1013
01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:09,840
this code change goes forward, that MDR
portion of the Timmans Landing uh sub

1014
01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:13,679
area um you know wouldn't be required
then to have this mix of of product

1015
01:25:11,679 --> 01:25:18,560
types. The other areas that are zoned
MDR16 are under the current 10acre

1016
01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:24,800
threshold. So, this change wouldn't
really apply to those properties.

1017
01:25:22,159 --> 01:25:31,040
» Okay. Thank you. U have one other
question. Uh

1018
01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:38,719
the threshold going to 20 sounds fine to
me. Uh the the mixture of housing types.

1019
01:25:35,199 --> 01:25:44,159
I'm wondering if there is some way
anyway that it makes sense that perhaps

1020
01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:49,199
swaps could be done where one developer
might develop land that's extremely high

1021
01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:54,800
density and another then would be freed
up to do more of what they want and not

1022
01:25:52,239 --> 01:25:59,280
have as high a density.
um rather than having to put the same

1023
01:25:57,679 --> 01:26:04,880
standard
against every

1024
01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:09,920
project that comes in, would there be a
way that one project could help offset

1025
01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:13,600
the requirement of another project?
>> I don't know if that even

1026
01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:17,600
» Yeah, I mean I think there is a
potential to do that. Um you know, it

1027
01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:20,639
requires some additional code revisions.
I think something else that was noted

1028
01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:26,080
last night at the planning commission
meeting is, you know, up until very

1029
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:29,920
recently here, this MDR16 zone was
really the most dense zone in the city.

1030
01:26:28,159 --> 01:26:33,360
And so, you know, the types of products
that you can put in that, you can put,

1031
01:26:31,120 --> 01:26:38,080
you know, sort of smaller detached
homes. You can do, you know, attached

1032
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:43,040
town homes like a triplex or a duplex or
a quadplex or you can do apartments. Um

1033
01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:46,560
however now the city also has a
highdensity residential zone which is

1034
01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:52,880
you know intended for you know intended
for apartments and so you know we do

1035
01:26:50,639 --> 01:26:57,360
have the ability and the zoning now for
some you know some more dense products

1036
01:26:55,679 --> 01:27:03,840
um that previously would be you know
sort of fitting into this MDR16 zone.

1037
01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:07,520
» Okay. Well thank you for your comments.
Appreciate it very much.

1038
01:27:05,920 --> 01:27:12,159
» Yeah. Thank you.
>> Hey this is uh Council Member Bole. You

1039
01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:17,280
guys hear me? All right.
>> Yes.

1040
01:27:14,639 --> 01:27:21,360
» Um, so with this new zoning change, is
it going to be a requirement that there

1041
01:27:19,040 --> 01:27:27,280
is a mixed
>> use of

1042
01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:34,159
different styles of houses, town homes,
single family residences, or is it going

1043
01:27:30,159 --> 01:27:39,520
to be just at their own discretion?
So the code already currently requires

1044
01:27:36,480 --> 01:27:43,760
this mix um for projects that exceed 10
acres. So all all we're simply doing is

1045
01:27:41,440 --> 01:27:49,520
changing that threshold where the mix of
product types applies to moving that

1046
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:53,080
from 10 to 20 acre um size 20 acre or
larger projects.

1047
01:27:54,000 --> 01:28:01,360
» And just kind of shooting from the hip
here. I mean I feel like the spirit of

1048
01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:05,880
the city is kind of less is more. We
want growth, but we want it to be

1049
01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:16,639
consensual to what CIA's,
you know, our history is. And

1050
01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:21,199
how is that going to affect
what we've been trying to do from years

1051
01:28:19,199 --> 01:28:25,040
past?
>> Sure. Well, I I think some of the

1052
01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:29,199
feedback that we've got from developers
is, you know, that they've developed

1053
01:28:26,480 --> 01:28:34,239
under this current code language. um you
know so they have a you know a 10 to 15

1054
01:28:31,360 --> 01:28:38,880
acre project they're putting in you know
generally um you know single family

1055
01:28:37,199 --> 01:28:43,760
detached seems to be you know sort of
what the market is is demanding in L

1056
01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:47,120
center so that they'll do the 75% of
that and then they have to do 25% of

1057
01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:51,520
something else they're generally picking
in an attached like a duplex or triplex

1058
01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:54,800
sort of project and they said they've
been getting a lot of comments you know

1059
01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:57,920
from the public and even from you know
planning commission members of like how

1060
01:28:56,400 --> 01:29:02,400
come you're putting this you know these
town homes here, you know, we'd rather

1061
01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:05,040
just see it be um, you know, more, you
know, detached that sort of fit with the

1062
01:29:04,080 --> 01:29:07,920
rest of the character of the
neighborhood. And, you know, their

1063
01:29:06,000 --> 01:29:12,880
answer is, well, that's what the code
makes us do. Um, so, you know, it's sort

1064
01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:17,440
of that kind of feedback that we've been
receiving that's prompted uh the

1065
01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:22,560
proposals here uh this evening to to
change that threshold and raise it up to

1066
01:29:19,360 --> 01:29:26,880
20 acres.
Brian, I believe last night at the

1067
01:29:24,400 --> 01:29:29,679
planning commission.
>> I'm sorry.

1068
01:29:28,159 --> 01:29:37,760
» I was just going to say, so does this
kind of like meld us between the current

1069
01:29:32,800 --> 01:29:42,320
MDR16 and the highdensity residential?
Yeah, I mean the probably the result of

1070
01:29:40,000 --> 01:29:46,960
this code change will be that you know
that these you know projects that are

1071
01:29:44,800 --> 01:29:52,400
below 20 acres you know I'm guessing
will be largely

1072
01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:58,080
you know building only detached single
family so you know sort of like you know

1073
01:29:54,159 --> 01:30:02,480
just we have the LDR code uh LDR 7.5 so
those are sort of your larger lots and

1074
01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:07,360
your larger detached homes and then on
the MDR you know on these again 20 acres

1075
01:30:05,120 --> 01:30:12,880
or smaller projects You'll probably see,
you know, smaller detached single family

1076
01:30:09,199 --> 01:30:17,760
homes um as we, you know, continue to,
you know, have um lands come into the

1077
01:30:16,400 --> 01:30:20,960
city in the future, you know, and
there's larger parcels, you know, that

1078
01:30:19,360 --> 01:30:25,920
are over 20 acres, you know, that they
will be required to to continue to do

1079
01:30:22,880 --> 01:30:30,560
this mix. Um and now again, we have that
um highdensity residential zone as well.

1080
01:30:28,320 --> 01:30:34,400
So, um, you know, we'll see more sort of
the apartment sort of product that

1081
01:30:32,320 --> 01:30:39,120
people, you know, had been putting into,
uh, this MDR zone. Um, you know, think

1082
01:30:37,120 --> 01:30:43,440
like on the north side of town there.
Um, you know, that will probably be more

1083
01:30:41,520 --> 01:30:47,239
focused in that high density zone that's
more out towards the junction.

1084
01:30:50,159 --> 01:30:58,400
» Oh, yeah. Thank you.
>> Okay. Uh my question I last night at the

1085
01:30:56,719 --> 01:31:05,760
uh planning commission meeting I believe
Dennis Seal brought up how many 10 to 20

1086
01:31:02,000 --> 01:31:11,920
acre pots in the city limits do we have
that that would be affected by that

1087
01:31:08,880 --> 01:31:15,760
» and I don't remember the answer.
>> Yeah. So I think you know we looked at

1088
01:31:13,520 --> 01:31:20,400
that zoning map last night and I think
the the main area as the zoning map

1089
01:31:18,719 --> 01:31:26,000
currently sits that this would apply to
is the the Timman Landing area.

1090
01:31:23,920 --> 01:31:31,679
um with a portion of that that's zoned
MDR. There is, you know, there's another

1091
01:31:29,040 --> 01:31:35,440
um parcel that's zoned MDR that's in
this size range, but I believe that

1092
01:31:33,040 --> 01:31:39,360
already has a an approved proposal on
it. Um and so this code, you know, there

1093
01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:42,480
wouldn't be vested to this code. They're
vested to the the current 10acre

1094
01:31:40,960 --> 01:31:46,960
threshold and would be required to do
the mix. And then there's a a piece of

1095
01:31:45,199 --> 01:31:51,280
property sort of south of the high
school that I believe it was under the

1096
01:31:48,800 --> 01:31:54,400
current 10acre threshold as well. So
regardless of this code change, they

1097
01:31:52,719 --> 01:32:01,120
would not be required to do a mix of
product types there.

1098
01:31:58,000 --> 01:32:08,080
» Thank you. Thank you.
>> I think to me what this shows is that

1099
01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:13,199
it's really not the city that's driving
the development, right? Somebody has an

1100
01:32:10,320 --> 01:32:17,199
idea. Clearly, they have a piece of
property in mind. It's not the city that

1101
01:32:15,600 --> 01:32:23,520
said, "Hey, there's this piece of
property that you could come and ask for

1102
01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:28,239
a reasonzoning for. Somebody has an
idea." It's not the city that that gets

1103
01:32:26,719 --> 01:32:34,480
to determine whether or not somebody
wants to sell property or or develop

1104
01:32:30,719 --> 01:32:39,360
property. So, um, either way, we're
still going to get blamed for being in

1105
01:32:36,239 --> 01:32:44,880
the developers pockets and looking for,
uh, you know, every every reason in the

1106
01:32:41,760 --> 01:32:53,040
book to add more people to the city to
clog the roads and things like that. So,

1107
01:32:49,120 --> 01:32:55,120
I I think we should just get on with it.
>> Well,

1108
01:32:53,440 --> 01:32:59,440
» let's open the public hearing. And
before I do that, I just council also

1109
01:32:57,440 --> 01:33:03,360
knew that this is stuff that you guys
have talked about in previous meetings,

1110
01:33:01,280 --> 01:33:07,760
right? You guys wanted to do away with
having to have condos and apartments and

1111
01:33:06,239 --> 01:33:12,480
and kind of get back to the single
family dwelling units and this opens

1112
01:33:10,560 --> 01:33:20,000
that back up, right? They're not
required to put a mix small compact kind

1113
01:33:17,280 --> 01:33:24,880
of like the man meadows area.
>> So, this this opens those doors. So,

1114
01:33:23,120 --> 01:33:28,960
» I think this counts as being more
business friendly,

1115
01:33:27,600 --> 01:33:31,440
» doesn't it?
>> Is that what your conclusion?

1116
01:33:30,560 --> 01:33:37,920
» That's what I'm going to say.
>> I love it.

1117
01:33:34,400 --> 01:33:41,440
» Ask reflector to
>> All right. Um, if there's no more

1118
01:33:39,760 --> 01:33:46,920
questions to Brian, I I am going to open
this up. Have any more questions or

1119
01:33:43,920 --> 01:33:46,920
comments?

1120
01:33:48,159 --> 01:33:55,600
» Okay.
At this time, 7:15 p.m., I'd like to

1121
01:33:52,560 --> 01:34:02,920
open up the public hearing. This will uh
public comments. They need to be limited

1122
01:33:57,760 --> 01:34:02,920
to the ordinance 2026-10, please.

1123
01:34:03,199 --> 01:34:09,880
» At this time, is there any public
comments from the audience that would

1124
01:34:06,560 --> 01:34:09,880
like to speak?

1125
01:34:13,040 --> 01:34:16,760
I was waiting for Al.

1126
01:34:20,880 --> 01:34:27,280
Alfella 36016 Northwest Connecticut
Road.

1127
01:34:25,679 --> 01:34:32,719
You know, Casey, you might be right.
That might be considered business

1128
01:34:29,840 --> 01:34:38,159
friendly.
You know, I'm glad you caught. You've

1129
01:34:34,719 --> 01:34:44,679
done your due diligence.
So, good job. So, that's my positive

1130
01:34:41,040 --> 01:34:44,679
thing to say tonight.

1131
01:34:44,800 --> 01:34:51,679
And the museum is open this Saturday
from noon to 4, but I can't say that.

1132
01:34:50,239 --> 01:34:54,880
» Thank you for not saying that, Al. I
appreciate that. Any other public

1133
01:34:53,120 --> 01:34:57,880
comments? Uh, please step up to the
podium.

1134
01:34:58,480 --> 01:35:05,280
» All right. Are there any comments from
those calling in? Please press star six

1135
01:35:02,639 --> 01:35:10,040
to unmute yourself. Please stay to the
limited or limit yourself to the

1136
01:35:06,639 --> 01:35:10,040
ordinance 2026-10.

1137
01:35:14,800 --> 01:35:19,120
Do we have any callers?
>> No callers at this time.

1138
01:35:17,760 --> 01:35:21,040
» Are there any public comments to be
read?

1139
01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:26,080
» No public comments to be
>> No public comments to be read.

1140
01:35:23,920 --> 01:35:30,920
» Okay.
Last chance. Anybody would like to step

1141
01:35:27,600 --> 01:35:30,920
up to speak.

1142
01:35:31,920 --> 01:35:35,480
» Please step up.

1143
01:35:36,400 --> 01:35:49,679
My name is Jim Newell and I'm um at 1518
West Aton Place the Center and uh I'm

1144
01:35:47,840 --> 01:35:54,960
basically
close to that gravel

1145
01:35:52,159 --> 01:36:00,960
walkway or
where you can take dogs and and

1146
01:35:58,639 --> 01:36:08,400
down into the trail.
My concern is I see a lot of kids and I

1147
01:36:05,040 --> 01:36:15,920
know that this is summertime and kids
will be kids, but I'm seeing a lot of um

1148
01:36:12,480 --> 01:36:22,960
kids on the electric bikes, electric
scooters,

1149
01:36:17,440 --> 01:36:30,480
even the big wheels and u go-karts.
That was new last week. um

1150
01:36:27,679 --> 01:36:37,600
they don't have helmets on, you know, so
safety is concern. But one of the things

1151
01:36:33,600 --> 01:36:46,400
that bothered me was
last year there was a posted no electric

1152
01:36:42,480 --> 01:36:54,159
bikes. And I don't know what happened to
the two signs that I was aware of,

1153
01:36:50,719 --> 01:36:59,679
but the beginning of the summer, those
were removed. I don't know if those were

1154
01:36:57,119 --> 01:37:07,199
removed by
the city or if they were removed by

1155
01:37:03,760 --> 01:37:14,080
kids that didn't want to see that or
adults, whatever. But

1156
01:37:11,280 --> 01:37:22,400
safety is concerning.
>> Parents with or kids, I mean, adults

1157
01:37:18,080 --> 01:37:29,360
taking their dogs for a walk. Um, it's
not safe. It really isn't. I've got two

1158
01:37:25,600 --> 01:37:35,119
little ones myself and uh I've seen kids
come ripping down, crossing the bridge,

1159
01:37:33,040 --> 01:37:40,800
and uh
I've got a dog running this way and a

1160
01:37:37,040 --> 01:37:48,880
dog running that way. and barely have
time when they're skidding to a stop to

1161
01:37:44,480 --> 01:37:55,040
get my dogs close at hand. And I just I
worry about that. You know, if there's

1162
01:37:51,199 --> 01:38:00,320
an older older person than I am, can
they get out of the way? And there's

1163
01:37:57,040 --> 01:38:09,600
places that are runners on that gravel
road that get concerned. And so anyway,

1164
01:38:05,600 --> 01:38:15,040
that's that's my concern. Especially
the signs that were there are not there

1165
01:38:12,880 --> 01:38:20,000
because I sit right on the corner and if
I could do something about saying, "Hey,

1166
01:38:18,000 --> 01:38:24,800
listen.
Watch what you're doing." And if there's

1167
01:38:22,719 --> 01:38:29,840
a cop sitting on the corner, he just
sits there and says, "Well, there's

1168
01:38:26,880 --> 01:38:33,920
nothing I can do." So, thank you for
your time and what you're doing.

1169
01:38:32,320 --> 01:38:39,600
» Thank you very much. And the city will
look into that. Appreciate it. Okay. At

1170
01:38:37,119 --> 01:38:43,679
this time, 7:20 p.m. I'd like to close
the public hearing and turn this back

1171
01:38:41,440 --> 01:38:48,320
over to council.
>> Council, any questions, comments, any

1172
01:38:46,560 --> 01:38:54,639
further?
If not, I will take a motion.

1173
01:38:52,560 --> 01:39:01,880
» Mayor, I move to approve ordinance
2026-10

1174
01:38:56,400 --> 01:39:01,880
updating the MDR16 code as presented.

1175
01:39:04,960 --> 01:39:10,880
» I'll second it.
It's been moved and seconded. Clerk, can

1176
01:39:08,320 --> 01:39:13,199
I please get a roll call vote?
>> Council member Ravaro,

1177
01:39:12,239 --> 01:39:15,360
» yes.
>> Council member Casper,

1178
01:39:14,719 --> 01:39:18,320
» yes.
>> Council member Bole,

1179
01:39:16,960 --> 01:39:20,639
» yes.
>> Council member France,

1180
01:39:20,159 --> 01:39:25,159
» yes.
>> Council member Cerebony,

1181
01:39:22,159 --> 01:39:25,159
» yes.

1182
01:39:25,760 --> 01:39:31,920
» Okay, ordinance passes. Thank you,
council.

1183
01:39:30,320 --> 01:39:36,320
» Thank you, Brian. Uh, good job.
Appreciate you staying up late tonight.

1184
01:39:34,320 --> 01:39:41,600
» Thank you.
All right, next up we have the public

1185
01:39:38,960 --> 01:39:48,159
hearing again. Ordinance 2026-09,
the MIR annexation and reszone. This

1186
01:39:44,719 --> 01:39:54,239
Angie Merrill will be presenting. Angie,
>> good evening.

1187
01:39:51,119 --> 01:39:59,840
» Tonight we have the Mir annexation and
um they are requesting to annex

1188
01:39:56,960 --> 01:40:09,040
approximately 10.1 acres into the city
of L Center on May 12th. uh 12th a 10%

1189
01:40:05,840 --> 01:40:15,199
notice of attent intent was accepted by
the city council. The applicant

1190
01:40:11,360 --> 01:40:20,960
submitted a 60% petition on May 13,
2026.

1191
01:40:17,119 --> 01:40:26,159
Perent municipal code 18.290.
It allows for parcels outside the city

1192
01:40:23,199 --> 01:40:31,440
limits to annex into the city of L
center. Um to be eligible for the

1193
01:40:29,679 --> 01:40:36,159
annexation, a property must be
contiguous to the existing city limits

1194
01:40:33,760 --> 01:40:40,880
and within the urban growth boundary.
The project parcels due above the city

1195
01:40:38,480 --> 01:40:46,480
limits to the north. The property to the
east was recently approved for

1196
01:40:42,800 --> 01:40:52,960
annexation. The Larsson property
um and then the property to the west is

1197
01:40:49,040 --> 01:40:56,800
in Clark County. The mirrors are the
mirrors are the property owners and

1198
01:40:54,639 --> 01:41:02,239
they're the full owners of the property.
Thus, they exceed the 60% requirement

1199
01:40:59,360 --> 01:41:06,560
and their parcel is located totally
within the urban growth boundary.

1200
01:41:04,239 --> 01:41:13,920
There's availability for the city of Le
Center utilities to this parcel.

1201
01:41:10,239 --> 01:41:21,679
Um upon annexation, the property will be
zoned LDR 7.5 with an urban holding

1202
01:41:17,360 --> 01:41:27,760
overlay until there's some kind of um
development request if there is any kind

1203
01:41:24,080 --> 01:41:32,639
of development request at a future time.
And um at the hearing last night, the

1204
01:41:30,719 --> 01:41:39,199
planning commission hearing, planning
commission um recommended approval of

1205
01:41:35,760 --> 01:41:43,679
the mirror annexation. And uh staff
recommends to city council opening a

1206
01:41:41,600 --> 01:41:48,719
public hearing to accept public comments
for the proposed annexation.

1207
01:41:47,040 --> 01:41:55,280
» Okay. Thank you, Angie.
>> Um any questions for Angie? Council,

1208
01:41:53,040 --> 01:42:00,560
» I have a question.
Um could you kind of explain a little

1209
01:41:57,600 --> 01:42:06,400
bit more what you mean by residential
density transfer transfer from a

1210
01:42:04,080 --> 01:42:12,880
critical area
uh shall be in accordance to this uh the

1211
01:42:08,719 --> 01:42:18,159
center municipal codes code but so
you're taking a residential density and

1212
01:42:15,119 --> 01:42:23,360
transferring it to or from a a critical
area and I think you know maybe some of

1213
01:42:21,040 --> 01:42:28,960
the people in the audience would like to
know with more what that means. too.

1214
01:42:26,239 --> 01:42:33,600
» So that proposal tonight is this is just
for an annexation. There's no density

1215
01:42:31,600 --> 01:42:37,920
transfer for that. But
>> yes, that has nothing. We're not

1216
01:42:36,080 --> 01:42:42,000
requesting that this evening, is there?
>> Okay, I get it.

1217
01:42:38,960 --> 01:42:44,960
» Okay. Thanks.
>> Thank you.

1218
01:42:42,719 --> 01:42:49,320
» Thank you.
>> Any other questions for Angie?

1219
01:42:50,960 --> 01:42:57,440
Okay. Uh, so at this time 7:24 p.m. I'd
like to open up to public hearing.

1220
01:42:56,159 --> 01:43:02,239
Public comment should be limited to
ordinance 2026-04.

1221
01:43:00,000 --> 01:43:07,960
Are those in the audience please step up
to the podium

1222
01:43:04,159 --> 01:43:07,960
and state your name.

1223
01:43:10,239 --> 01:43:15,679
All right, seeing how there is none, uh,
any callers calling in, please press

1224
01:43:14,000 --> 01:43:21,159
star six to unmute yourself, state your
name, and please stick to the ordinance

1225
01:43:18,159 --> 01:43:21,159
2026-09.

1226
01:43:27,840 --> 01:43:31,280
No callers, clerk.
>> No callers.

1227
01:43:29,840 --> 01:43:34,080
» Are there any comments to be read?
>> No comments to be read.

1228
01:43:32,560 --> 01:43:38,800
» Okay.
>> Uh at this time, 7:25 p.m. I'd like to

1229
01:43:36,960 --> 01:43:42,960
go ahead and close the public hearing
and turn this back over to council.

1230
01:43:40,639 --> 01:43:46,239
Council, any questions, comments,
conversations?

1231
01:43:44,800 --> 01:43:49,800
If there isn't, I would definitely
entertain a motion.

1232
01:43:50,719 --> 01:43:57,880
Mayor, I move to approve allowing the
owner of parcel number 209692-0000

1233
01:43:58,960 --> 01:44:08,040
to proceed with the annexation process
to bring said property into the list

1234
01:44:04,320 --> 01:44:08,040
under city limits.

1235
01:44:08,960 --> 01:44:14,159
» Second.
>> It's been moved and seconded. Clerk, can

1236
01:44:12,000 --> 01:44:17,840
I please have a roll call vote on this?
>> Council member,

1237
01:44:15,679 --> 01:44:20,239
» yes. Council member Casper,
>> yes.

1238
01:44:18,320 --> 01:44:23,600
» Council member Bole,
>> yes.

1239
01:44:21,679 --> 01:44:25,840
» Council member France,
>> yes.

1240
01:44:24,239 --> 01:44:30,000
» Council member Cerviny,
>> yes.

1241
01:44:28,320 --> 01:44:33,920
» All right, ordinance passes. Thank you,
council. Thank you, everyone. Thank you,

1242
01:44:31,679 --> 01:44:39,360
Angie, for the work into that. I'm sure
there's going to be more to come. Um,

1243
01:44:37,840 --> 01:44:44,000
at that point, uh, we don't have any
unfinished business. Council, we do have

1244
01:44:41,760 --> 01:44:51,679
a new business, uh, to discuss real
quick. Council uh councelor Caspber and

1245
01:44:48,560 --> 01:44:56,400
myself will not be attending next uh
meeting at the end of August will be

1246
01:44:53,119 --> 01:45:02,239
unavailable. Um I have actually asked
councelor Bole to chair the meeting with

1247
01:45:00,239 --> 01:45:06,960
you as a council since it is his last
meeting. I wanted to see if there was

1248
01:45:04,719 --> 01:45:11,199
any objections to that or any concerns
about that.

1249
01:45:09,679 --> 01:45:16,080
» Okay.
>> Councelor, are you with us?

1250
01:45:14,400 --> 01:45:20,480
I am.
>> Are you up to the task?

1251
01:45:18,480 --> 01:45:23,920
» Absolutely. I'd love to.
>> Be your last meeting.

1252
01:45:22,239 --> 01:45:27,600
» I know. I'm sad you guys aren't going to
be there.

1253
01:45:25,280 --> 01:45:33,679
» There are no parties allowed. All right.
>> Oh, well, I will cancel all the

1254
01:45:31,920 --> 01:45:39,760
all the things.
>> All right. Okay. Well, then uh that

1255
01:45:36,480 --> 01:45:42,080
concludes it. Um at this point, I will
uh take a motion for adjournment. So

1256
01:45:41,840 --> 01:45:47,040
moved.
>> So moved. It's been moved and seconded.

1257
01:45:45,199 --> 01:45:50,320
» Uh, yeah. Did I get a second or both of
you guys did that? It's been moved and

1258
01:45:48,800 --> 01:45:55,360
seconded. All those in favor?
>> I I

1259
01:45:51,920 --> 01:45:59,560
» opposed. Abstain. Motion passes.
Meetings adjured. Thank you for

1260
01:45:56,560 --> 01:45:59,560
attending.