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[0:01] I'm ready. Is everybody ready? I will now call to order the regular meeting of the city council and the regular joint meeting with the successor agency to the federal government agency, to the city of La Habra, La Habra Pacific Improvement Authority, City of La Habra Housing Authority, and La Habra Utility Authority of June 15, 2020, with the record reflect that it is 6.30 p.m. The indication will be given by City Attorney Legal Council Richard Jones, followed by the Pledge of Allegiance
[0:31] led by me, you know, Stan please.
[0:41] Thank you.
[0:43] Dear Heavenly Father, we humbly bow our heads as we gather this evening to do the important
[0:48] business of the city of Lahabra.
[0:50] These difficult times were grateful for those who lead our community and those who protect
[0:56] us.
[0:57] We ask you as we go forth this evening that we will listen to those who guide and direct us
[1:04] and understand the important and crucial things they provide to this community.
[1:08] We ask you to bless the council with wisdom and insight this evening as they act to direct for our mutual benefit.
[1:15] We're grateful for your presence in our life and we recognize these are difficult times and require great understanding and knowledge as to how to proceed.
[1:23] We're grateful for your presence in our life and we say these things are my name, amen.
[1:27] If you'd please join me in the flag, I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic or which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all.
[1:44] Thank you.
[1:49] Will the clerk secretary please note that all council member directors are present?
[1:57] Are there any closed session announcements? Probably not since there's no closed session.
[2:01] No, thank you. Proclamations, we proclaim July 2020 as parks and recreation month on the
[2:09] city of La Habra, a certificate. We'll go out to that department. Thank you very much.
[2:14] And then we have certificates of appreciation to the youth committee that will be mailed
[2:19] out to them. Jim, you want to say about the youth committee?
[2:26] We do. It's always a great group that kind of got hit by this coronavirus this time
[2:32] as far as being able to do things, I guess. Public comments. This is a time. No, sorry,
[2:39] I'm jumping ahead. I have asked Chief Price to come up and spend a few minutes with us,
[2:45] I was talking about the last two or three weeks where the police department stands on some issues.
[2:52] He's put out a couple of press releases, so I thought it'd be beneficial for Council and all of us to have a presentation by the Chief.
[3:03] Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
[3:05] You hear me okay, so Mike working?
[3:08] Speak.
[3:09] You can get a little closer.
[3:11] Let me move over.
[3:12] How about now?
[3:13] That's great.
[3:14] Okay, perfect. Thank you so much for the opportunity to have a few minutes before you and discuss the recent issues that we've been dealing with.
[3:23] With the tragic death of George Floyd a few weeks ago, me and my whole department were saddened watching that horrific video.
[3:30] The results have been one officer has been charged with murder, three others have been charged with other crimes.
[3:36] And it has been a tragic black eye for all of law enforcement as protests have gone around the country.
[3:42] You were referring it to it, but on June 1st, I put out a statement, basically letting people know where I stand on social media as it regards to George Floyd.
[3:50] I also received a couple of emails from people in the community asking about what we're doing.
[3:56] Based on that, on June 10th, I put out another thing on social media and also on our website.
[4:03] It covers several issues that include training practices and policies.
[4:07] These have all been brought up in the media recently, and they've also been brought up in the eight camp wait campaign.
[4:14] If you're not familiar, some of the issues that they are looking for, police departments to say where they stand,
[4:21] ban chokehold or strangleholds as they call them.
[4:25] Those are terms that we don't use, we don't have a chokehold or a stranglehold.
[4:29] Based on the governor last week, suspending any type of training for the carotid restraint.
[4:35] That is a tool that has been used for law enforcement and is taught in the academy for a long time.
[4:39] After he decided to suspend any training, it wouldn't certify any training going forward.
[4:44] I suspended the use of that for our department last Wednesday, I believe it was on the 10th.
[4:49] Another issue is required de-escalation.
[4:53] That was done already through California law.
[4:55] I think it was SB 230, don't quote me on the numbers, but that went into effect or was passed-
[5:00] Class by legislature last year. Requires de-escalation training for California law enforcement.
[5:05] We just sent all of our department earlier this year to de-escalation and crisis intervention
[5:09] training. It was an eight-hour class that we put on throughout the entire department.
[5:15] The requesting that you require a warning before shooting. This is in our policy. If you guys
[5:20] aren't familiar, our policy manual is done through lexapole. It's a standardized police policy
[5:24] manual. They give us updates when laws change to make sure that we say current on all the
[5:29] laws, talking about a warning before deadly shooting is already included in that.
[5:35] It's basically whenever feasible, they want our officers to do that.
[5:41] This one, another one that they're talking about is required to exhaust all alternatives
[5:44] before shooting.
[5:47] This one's challenging because that could be very problematic if it's implemented and basically
[5:53] somebody's allowed to second-guess an officer after the fact.
[5:56] But in each incident, an officer is told to evaluate all the situation as it occurs based on those particular circumstances and it's based on objectively reasonable for the officer at the time.
[6:09] They talk about duty to intervene.
[6:12] Duty to intervene basically means if an officer observes another officer using excessive force or force that is out of line, they have a duty to step in and to basically win feasible step in to stop the force.
[6:25] They also have a duty to report it to their supervisor.
[6:29] That's currently in our policy manual.
[6:33] They request a ban on shooting on moving vehicles.
[6:36] Shooting at moving vehicles is rarely effective and is generally discouraged.
[6:40] But there are rare occurrences where it may be needed to protect life of the officer or somebody else.
[6:49] They talk about requiring a use of force continuum.
[6:52] This is an outdated concept that we had around the 90s.
[6:55] But, like I mentioned before, we have currently have lexapole.
[6:59] We have a current modern use of force policy that talks about objectively reasonable at
[7:04] the time, and it's also available on our website.
[7:08] And the last section is require comprehensive reporting.
[7:11] Any time a use of force is done per lexapole, per our policy, our practice.
[7:16] We do a use of force review.
[7:18] It's reported to the supervisor, and we look at each use of force to see whether it's in
[7:23] policy, any training needs or anything else that occurs with that situation.
[7:29] And as I mentioned, I published all these responses, they're available on the website
[7:32] and I also put them out on our Facebook and other social media accounts on June 10th.
[7:37] And also, as I mentioned, the policy manual that all of these, many of these items already cover
[7:42] is available on our website.
[7:46] I'm happy to report that we had a peaceful protest here in La Habra about ten days ago or so.
[7:52] That's been the only protest that we had locally, about a hundred feet through people gathered and marched through the city.
[8:00] I'm very happy to see that they were expressing their first amendment rights and we at the police department support their right to do that.
[8:07] And we're also thankful to all the participated that it was peaceful and did not cause any issues for the community.
[8:15] One of the things I wanted to stress, since I became chief many years ago, the importance of hiring good people.
[8:21] I believe we have a very good department here at LaHabra.
[8:24] I have a lot of good men and women who are doing a lot of good things in the community.
[8:29] And one of the ways I try to keep doing that is by stressing the hiring process.
[8:33] And found that I found that if I look for strong character and ethics, if I find a good person,
[8:38] they will make a good police officer.
[8:40] We could train them to do that.
[8:42] To get there they go through a strenuous process as many of you know.
[8:46] Written test, physical agility, oral interview, background process,
[8:51] polygraph, interview with the chief, medical, and a psych.
[8:56] And just because they go through all those things, just because they make it all the way through, it doesn't mean we hire all of them.
[9:01] We're selective, we're looking for the good person, we're looking for a good fit that's here at Lahabra.
[9:06] Currently we have 69 police officers currently working in the city that are on the books.
[9:12] Of those, nine of them are female.
[9:15] Happy to report that's the highest number in my 29 years here.
[9:19] So it's, where's my math here?
[9:22] I usually have sal to my math, but he's not here anymore.
[9:25] 13% female.
[9:27] So that's our highest number, happy to report that.
[9:32] Also of our 69 officers, 29 of them are Hispanic.
[9:35] That's about 42% of our department.
[9:39] And the biggest stat that I'm happy of is that six of our current officers are homegrown.
[9:44] That means they grew up in La Habra, and one of them was La Habra Heights, but I still
[9:48] count that one too.
[9:50] But they're homegrown people.
[9:52] They grew up in this community, and we basically came back to serve, and they're now working
[9:56] here at the police department.
[9:58] And I mention this because I think
[10:00] We have a good representation at the police department of our current community. Of the community we have held here in La Habra, and I'm happy to say of all the work they're out here doing good things, they're working in the community, and I'm proud of the work that they're doing on a daily basis. And one of the goals that we have is to work collaboratively with the community. Work together to solve problems, keep La Habra a great place to live and work. We've worked hard the last several years to get to know all the community members and also have them get to know our officers.
[10:30] Some of the events that we've done, coffee with a cop.
[10:34] Citizens Academy in English and Spanish every year.
[10:37] Our annual open house, generally in October.
[10:40] National night outs, usually the first Tuesday and August.
[10:44] Cool cops is one we usually do every summer where we bring ice cream out to a local park or local neighborhood
[10:50] and then have some water slides and some other events form.
[10:54] And recently, right after COVID started, we started doing some birthday drive buys
[10:59] that were very popular for some people in the community.
[11:02] All these are just efforts of community engagement and
[11:05] trying to strengthen that relationship we have with the community here in LaHabra.
[11:10] I'm a strong believer that we're more successful when we're working together with the community to solve problems.
[11:15] With that, I've given you a little tidbit, but I know you guys may have other questions, so I'd be happy to answer them.
[11:22] My colleague, Zepkol, and Jim.
[11:25] I
[11:28] want to thank you for your leadership and your dedication and the men and women to serve our department.
[11:33] You've made me very, very proud, especially with these praise that you've been doing and all the community outreach.
[11:40] I mean, that's just a fraction of all that you guys have been doing out there and I sincerely appreciate it.
[11:45] And the response I've gotten from the community has been tremendous.
[11:48] Also, the way they conducted themselves with the recent protesters and stuff, outstanding.
[11:54] Let them do it peacefully and state out of their way, and they just fantastic jobs.
[12:00] So kudos to everybody, thank you, everybody.
[12:02] Thank you, appreciate it.
[12:05] Anybody else Rose, Jose?
[12:09] Just a couple of questions, I guess, but I also wanted to mention, I reached out to many people in the community over the week and by phone just to get a sense of where our community is.
[12:20] and almost to 100% very supportive of your department chief.
[12:28] They appreciate the service you do and the manner
[12:30] in which you do it, so we, I, as mayor, thank you
[12:33] and my colleagues, I'm sure also.
[12:35] But a couple of quick questions, so because of the last three weeks,
[12:40] I've been reading up on a lot of issues.
[12:41] The ban show colds and those eight items you listed
[12:45] from what I understand that comes from the campaign zero launch date,
[12:49] can't wait project. And what I was curious about, are you in the police department, do you
[12:56] follow those potential reforms that they're asking about? I'm sure you're aware of the campaign
[13:05] zero? Yes, we hear about them and then we look to see what the information's out and especially
[13:11] when they're asking us questions on it, we're making sure that we get informed so we can respond.
[13:16] Okay, because I look at some of these things and just like the eight can't wait project, I think there's some good proposals throughout this, you know, some good, some bad.
[13:27] But I'm wondering, can you say that California is perhaps more ahead of the game progressively than other live agencies in the rest of the United States?
[13:37] Are they not doing these kinds of things?
[13:39] And it's hard for me to speak on what exactly on all the things are doing in the rest of the country.
[13:46] But what I'm fairly confident that we are ahead of the curve here in LaHabra.
[13:52] And the things we do in California to basically stay on the cutting edge of law enforcement and do things right, I think we're doing well.
[14:00] Okay, and this the last piece is that I was reading AB 392, which was really a bipartisan approved bill and
[14:09] contingent on that passing. There's SB 230, which is a law enforcement use of deadly forest training, which much of that will become effective
[14:17] January 121. Are we implementing some of that now or where are we at in that process?
[14:24] Yeah, if I remember correctly, sir. I think that's the one that talks about the de-escalation training that's mandated and some other things.
[14:30] Yes, the California Police Chiefs Association and the Cal Sheriff's Association was very involved in getting that part
[14:36] Basically included into the bill. So we're working to make sure that we comply with that and continue to have
[14:42] Good de-escalation and crisis intervention training for our officers. Okay. Thank you very much, Chief. I appreciate your time. Thank you
[14:53] At this time we will go to public comments. This is the time for the public to address any item of interest
[15:00] To the public that is within the subject manager jurisdiction of the city, not appearing on this agenda. If the public addresses anything outside the subject manager jurisdiction of the city, not appearing on this agenda, they are subject to immediate disconnection from public comments. Speakers must limit their comments to three minutes each. The total time period for public comment is 30 minutes. Note per government code section, five, four, nine, five, four, point three, a, the city council cannot take action or express a consensus of approval.
[15:29] or disapproval on any public comments regarding matters which do not appear on the printed agenda.
[15:36] So at this time, it looks like we have somebody ready to go.
[15:39] Welcome.
[15:40] Welcome, thank you very much.
[15:42] Happy to be here, council members.
[15:44] I wanted to just take a moment to introduce myself and reintroduce myself to some of you I've already met.
[15:51] I'm John Letts, I'm the owner and founder of I-Tennis, and we've been very happy to be the tenant at the tennis center for the last three years.
[16:02] We've really enjoyed the community at Lahabra. We've had a really great experience with working with a high school tennis team, doing community outreach, building a community.
[16:16] we've had a bunch of big public events.
[16:20] So it's really been a very positive association
[16:23] that we've had in the community partnership.
[16:26] Over the last year, we had a two year contract
[16:29] and over the last year, we've been on a month-to-month
[16:31] rental basis, and we've wanted to do some upgrades
[16:35] to the facility, and it's kind of tied our hands,
[16:39] so we're really looking to get a long-term relationship
[16:41] if we can with the city.
[16:43] And briefly we, many of you know we added pickleball courts a year ago, in addition to the tennis and it's been extremely popular, both with Lahabra residents and people coming from the community surrounding.
[16:58] And now we have another potential partner with the soccer group and we think it's just a wonderful opportunity to have a multi-sport complex right around the corner here.
[17:09] So I came here with a group called Lab 5 that has a successful soccer business and they're going to just introduce themselves and then we also have some of our supporters and really we're just happy to be a partner with the city.
[17:28] We just would like to continue our relationship and hopefully get into a long term commitment where we can invest some money and improve the facility.
[17:37] Thank you.
[17:39] Thank you.
[18:05] All right there.
[18:06] Walked right by it.
[18:11] Good morning, everybody.
[18:13] I just want to introduce myself, Sebastien Agunel.
[18:17] I'm the one that sent you the letter some days ago.
[18:22] And I'm representing Lab 5 as a group, soccer group,
[18:26] with a lot of five aside business across California.
[18:29] We are partnering with John Letz at ITNIS,
[18:33] on the Portola Park. I'm just here to just to show up and to introduce myself and we
[18:40] be more than happy to show you in more details our project and exciting project at Portola
[18:47] Park and maybe during the next concert meeting. So it's simple, thank you to receive me and
[18:53] to let me speak about that today and thank you so much. I appreciate that.
[18:59] Thank you.
[19:00] Thank you.
[19:05] Hillary, that mic is on.
[19:06] It is people have to get right next to it.
[19:10] Hi.
[19:25] Good afternoon.
[19:26] Thank you for having us.
[19:28] Excuse me.
[19:28] If you can move a little closer because it's not the mic.
[19:31] There you go.
[19:33] Or you can even move it up if you want.
[19:35] Okay.
[19:35] I'll just.
[19:36] Thank you.
[19:37] Thank you.
[19:38] Well, thank you for having me.
[19:39] My name is Frank Moe.
[19:40] I'm a commercial real estate broker.
[19:42] and I'm the person who is putting itinous and lab 5 together.
[19:49] And I was just here in support of lab 5 and in support of trying to help itinous get a long term lease simply because of our client's need to.
[20:00] The cost that we're contemplating over in the park, and $700,000, of course, it'll only make sense if Mr.
[20:13] Letts is able to renew his lease for a period of time that will allow our client to
[20:18] amortize their costs. We're also really looking forward to bringing this five-a-site soccer
[20:24] center to La Habra, the great experience.
[20:28] I could talk about it for hours, but I thank you for your time.
[20:31] And I hope to come back here soon.
[20:34] Thank you.
[20:35] Thank you very much for your time.
[20:54] Speak kind of close to the mics we can hear you.
[20:58] Okay.
[20:59] My name is Rodriguez, I live in La Habra.
[21:03] And I'm here to talk about the itenis, basically the I pickle part of itenis.
[21:11] I'm retired. I was a peace office for 30 years, and I retired about seven years ago, and
[21:19] until a couple of years ago, I didn't have a whole lot to do. When you retire, there's
[21:25] only a select thing a person can do. And when John Letts brought Pickleball to Lahabra,
[21:31] it opened up a new world for a lot of us. And I mean, there's quite a few of us. So much
[21:36] that other cities are traveling to play here from Newport Beach, Costa Mesa, everything like that.
[21:42] So, and I think you guys have pretty much handicapped John by not giving him a long-term lease,
[21:48] because when things break down, or if things need to be improved, he can't put any money into it.
[21:54] It makes no sense. For instance, the lights, the lights are insufficient.
[22:00] So a lot of people don't come because the facility really is not up to par.
[22:04] So, you're kind of tying his hands by not allowing him to put the proper money that is needed to grow the place to bring more people to expand it.
[22:15] Plus, another thing is it's hard to find activities that will blend young and old.
[22:21] So, you know, me being in my mid 60s, it's kind of nice to have a sport that you can share with young individuals.
[22:30] Young kids that are learning new things, we've even taken them to elementary schools and we're teaching the new sport of pickleball, which is very social.
[22:41] And you can't say that for many sports, there are other sports that are pretty much dying out and are pretty much a one-on-one thing or, well, it's just not real social.
[22:49] This is a great social sport, and I think the city could really do a great service to LaHabra if they would allow
[23:01] I-Pickle or I-Tennis to have a long-term lease so they could actually put some money into it and justify their investment.
[23:09] Okay.
[23:11] Thanks for that. Just as a note, I had a friend take me up there and taught me the pickle ball.
[23:18] I played a lot of tennis, but it was a lot of fun at my age now, so I'm practicing so I
[23:23] can take on my colleagues one of these days.
[23:25] Very good.
[23:26] Thank you.
[23:27] Thank you for the time.
[23:45] Good evening.
[23:46] My name is Scott Millhouse.
[23:48] I've lived in La Habra for almost all my life, 55 years.
[23:54] And I retired about six years ago, and tennis was going to be what I did all the time.
[24:03] And we went up to Oregon one year and they had this game called Pickleball and we
[24:09] keep my wife and I gave it a try and it was absolutely incredible and I've
[24:13] never played tennis and so I came home and I wanted to find a place to play
[24:20] Pickleball and looked up online and there was absolutely no where to play and so
[24:27] my wife and I decided we were gonna move to Oregon in the summer and live in
[24:33] Arizona and the winter in both places that incredible pickleball communities
[24:39] and we were gonna be happy. Well I don't know I guess it was about September we
[24:45] came home from Oregon. I got online if I well I live in La Bra, I'll look up La
[24:51] opportunists and see if they've done anything with pickleball even though I knew
[24:53] they wouldn't. I get on there and they added eight brand new cords.
[25:00] And told my wife, we got in the car, went down there, bottom membership, and we're not going
[25:09] to move unless John doesn't get a extension on his lease or a long-term lease. But we are
[25:19] just as happy as we can be, though. We've met a lot of new people. It's amazing how far
[25:24] people drive to play Pickleball in La Habra. I mean, they come from Newport Beach, they come
[25:31] from Upland, they come from Chino, and I'm Hill Cypress, and they come a lot. Besides,
[25:36] people are playing La Habra. And it's such a great social game, and I want John and his
[25:44] group to be successful. And basically, I don't want to have to leave. I mean, this is just a wonderful
[25:52] sport and the thing about it is they've had tournaments there that bring a lot of
[25:59] people I mean they come from different states they come and eat in La Habra they
[26:04] spend money they buy gas and we've had every other Saturday we've had about a
[26:10] group of eight professional pick-up all players that are in the top 10 or 20 in
[26:15] old country and I think that is incredible to actually come to La Habra to do
[26:21] this. I mean, for other cities or people from other places to be talking about
[26:28] La Habra, it kind of makes me feel good. And in the fact, the La Habra doesn't offer much
[26:35] else for retired people or younger people. They have the softball fields. And besides that,
[26:44] Oh, yeah.
[26:44] It's an epic ball.
[26:46] If I could add soccer.
[26:48] That would be awesome.
[26:49] Anyway.
[26:50] That's not it.
[26:51] Thank you very much.
[27:04] That's for a lot of fun.
[27:05] We'll go.
[27:06] Yeah.
[27:08] Hi.
[27:08] My name is Christopher Ginell.
[27:10] And I'm here to.
[27:12] Petition for to secure at least for it's tennis and I pickle.
[27:16] I grew up right here in La Habra.
[27:18] So I feel that it's a super special place for me.
[27:21] I grew up playing tennis at La Hopper High School and at the tennis club and I taught tennis
[27:30] at the high school.
[27:31] So this is home to me.
[27:33] And what I would like to do, I actually teach at the tennis club now.
[27:39] And so I want to growth, grow the club with Pickleball, tennis, and everything else that
[27:43] I asked to offer and really connect with some of the kids in the schools and get, be part
[27:49] of the community a little bit more because it just means so much to me to give back to
[27:56] the community that I grew up in. And so I live down the road in Yorba Linden now, but
[28:03] I still go shopping right here in Lahabra because I'm always coming to Lahabra to teach
[28:06] and place, play pickleball, and do all that. So I'm always trying to give back to this community
[28:12] because it's so important to me. And I just love coming back, seeing my old boss who was
[28:16] just right here before me, you know, just people that I've connected with years ago.
[28:20] I'm reconnecting with them through the sport of pickleball antennas here in La Hopper.
[28:24] Thank you.
[28:25] Thanks.
[28:40] Good evening.
[28:42] Hi.
[28:42] Welcome.
[28:44] Thank you.
[28:45] I am one of the people that come from out of town to go to the La Hopper Tennis Center
[28:49] to play pickleball.
[28:51] Now, you might, I might not, not that far out of town because I'm in that part of Braya
[28:55] that Braya likes to forget about with the 562 area code and the kids go to La Hopper
[29:00] schools and so I have been involved in Lahabra for 25 years now with my kids and everything.
[29:07] So to have something now as my kids are out of the house to come into Lahabra is really
[29:12] nice because I think I know more people in Lahabra than I know in Brea.
[29:16] So I'm an outsider but I'm an insider too.
[29:19] I wish that COVID didn't hit so that we could take you guys down there on a Friday night
[29:27] so that you can see how many people are using those pickleball courts.
[29:30] There's how many courts that they say 11 courts and you have four people on each one,
[29:37] plus people waiting to play. That's a lot of people coming into your city because they are coming
[29:42] from all over the place. And they come to La Habra, they're going to spend money on La Habra,
[29:47] they're going to see the good side of La Habra, all of La Habra's good. But they're going to see
[29:51] positive things about Lahabra, and they're going to come back again and again.
[29:56] So I really hope you put in a long-term lease because if you...
[30:00] We don't, I don't know what I'm going to do three, four times a week because I come to get my exercise, to have fun, to be social, and it's just such a great time. I would encourage you all to come, come by like on a Friday night, like at six o'clock, and see how many people are there post-COVID, because it is starting to come back, but very slowly, because of COVID, you know, before we had so many people there, now it's slow. It's building back, though.
[30:28] But please give them a long-term lease so that this activity can continue to grow in the city and
[30:35] Bring good people into the city. Thank you. Thank you
[30:39] Well,
[30:55] my name is Bob Petty. I'm a
[30:57] Whole life for here in the city of Lahabra lived here in a whole life other than a couple years where I lived out of state going to college
[31:03] Born and raised here. Love Lahabra. Whenever I go anywhere people always you know ask hey where you from I'm proud to say I'm from Lahabra
[31:12] The only thing is, a lot of times people don't understand where La Habra is when you talk
[31:16] to others.
[31:17] But that's what the beauty is, we're able to describe where La Habra is and the benefits
[31:21] of it.
[31:22] We're in a time right now with diversity, you know, and that's the big buzz everything
[31:26] is going on right now.
[31:27] That's one thing about La Habra is diverse.
[31:29] We have all different ethnic backgrounds.
[31:32] We have different economic backgrounds, differences, pickleball unites, pickleball brings
[31:39] everybody together.
[31:40] And I'll tell you, I played football, baseball, baseball, you know, growing up.
[31:46] Pickleball is a sport that there is competitiveness because they do keep score.
[31:50] But you go there with the attitude of, I want to walk away with one more friend that I came
[31:55] with.
[31:56] And that's what Lahabra's motto should be is, hey, bring us bring more people here as friends
[32:02] because if we can bring them as friends, we can bring them as family.
[32:06] And that's what we want to do is grow Lahabra.
[32:08] If you go to, there's an app called Places to Play.
[32:10] I ask you guys to go ahead and just check that out.
[32:13] There isn't a very, very many places around here in La Habra that give the opportunity to play Pickleball.
[32:19] You might have to go to Cerritos, Downey, Anaheim.
[32:23] La Habra has a little nucleus here that pulls, it magnetizes people to come here to play.
[32:28] It's a great opportunity, again, to grow the business, to grow the city.
[32:33] This is about, you know, I hate to say it, but it's all about love.
[32:37] And again, this is an opportunity that we can bring others in and show that, really,
[32:44] that people from Lahabra love.
[32:48] And this isn't a racial thing, this isn't anything other than bringing people together
[32:54] and uniting in a cause to play to exercise.
[32:58] As previously mentioned, it's good for the youth.
[33:02] My wife's a school teacher, she's retired a couple years ago, 33 years of teaching.
[33:06] She's been around, she's an ambassador here at I-10-S, I-Pickle.
[33:10] And she wants to go ahead and further this to the education system.
[33:14] Again, she's taught for 33 years, she's good with the kids.
[33:18] But what better to have people like that in the community teaching them about Pickleball and tennis.
[33:23] If you think about it as a business, who would want to invest in a facility if you can be kicked out in a month?
[33:32] I tend to say long term lease, that gives them the vested interest to build this business into something that's long term.
[33:41] This isn't a short term fix, this is a long term endeavor that we want to, again, build Lahabra.
[33:47] I've lived here 58 years.
[33:48] I don't plan on leaving anytime soon, if I would have left years ago.
[33:53] I love Lahabra, other people here love Lahabra.
[33:56] We love itinous and I pickle, and I just hope that you guys will give itinous an opportunity to show how great it can be for the community.
[34:05] And again, I know who Mr. Beams, who you played with.
[34:10] My green.
[34:12] My green is a personal friend of mine.
[34:13] Okay, well, I beat him, don't let him tell you otherwise.
[34:19] I don't remember if I beat him, but it was fun. He beat me the first couple of games until I got to hang up.
[34:24] I'm going to wrestle about that, but he's not.
[34:26] I just tell him I beat him. Tell him I beat him.
[34:29] But thank you. You're out of time if you want to summarize real quick.
[34:32] You're good. Okay.
[34:33] Thank you very much.
[34:34] Thank you.
[34:53] Hello. Can you hear me? Okay.
[34:55] Yeah. Get a little bit closer to it.
[34:58] Okay. How about now?
[34:59] I think you can write.
[35:00] What is that if you're going to have to do that?
[35:05] You know, I'm not going to mess with that. Thank you.
[35:09] I wrote it out because I'm not too good with speaking on the fly. So I'd like to join the course of voices across the country calling an end to policing as we know it. It's time for the city of Alhabar to reconsider the apparatus it uses to interact with the public. The police are being used to solve problems. They aren't equipped to handle or shouldn't be meant to handle.
[35:34] In 2018, the LHPD responded to 43,239 calls for service.
[35:41] According to FBI statistics in that year, there were 111 violent crimes and
[35:46] 1155 property crimes in Mahabra, which would make up about 3% of those calls.
[35:52] Meaning that the vast, vast majority of calls for service are for nonviolent activities.
[35:57] Cities across the country are starting to change their approach to societal problems.
[36:01] Minneapolis, to dissolve it, San Francisco won't send police out to non-criminal calls, which
[36:08] is an ICCO program in Eugene, Oregon, where medical and mental health crisis managers sent
[36:14] to emergency calls involving folks with severe mental illness, addiction, and the homeless,
[36:19] as well as suicide intervention and prevention right off the bat.
[36:23] I can suggest a few things that should be taken out of the police department's purview.
[36:28] The Traffic Bureau, Investigations Bureau, Records Bureau, and Animal Control are four things that should be their own departments and don't need to be a run to my armed officials.
[36:38] For the time being, I believe they should be taken from the police department and managed directly by the city manager.
[36:44] But as the city moves forward, we have a chance to be on the cutting edge in terms of rethinking how cities interact with their citizens.
[36:51] And to be an example for others to follow.
[36:54] Thank you very much. I appreciate your comments.
[36:57] I
[37:19] feel like I'm being in the dance corner.
[37:21] You need to speak kind of lean into the microphone there.
[37:24] I said I feel like I'm in the dance corner.
[37:27] There you go.
[37:28] Okay, so hi. Good evening. My name is Julie Edwards.
[37:32] I live right over here at 528 Walnut, South Walnut, Walnut in Mountain View.
[37:38] Close to the city yard.
[37:40] And the topic, I sent an email, I don't know if anybody got a copy of it.
[37:45] I have copies, if you'd like to see.
[37:46] We would you have a copy here.
[37:48] Okay.
[37:48] Thank you.
[37:49] That was just sort of my, I just wanted to lay out an agenda so
[37:52] be easy to talk about, I'm here to talk about the fireworks.
[37:55] I know I'm not the only one complaining.
[37:59] My public comments are just that I understand the frustration of the police department.
[38:05] I'm sure they're tired of the phone calls, we're tired of making them.
[38:08] I see comments on Facebook pages,
[38:14] the Haber community pages that these problems are city-wide all over the city.
[38:20] My neighborhood is quite bad.
[38:22] Mountain View, electric olive, not always the best area.
[38:28] But we've lived here quite a long time.
[38:31] Myself about 10 years, the rest of the family much longer.
[38:36] used to just be, you know, get ready for the July is coming and it would start maybe a week before and trickle off a week after people using up their explosives.
[38:46] It's now, I don't even know, I don't know if it's because of the stay at home order, but I don't even know when it started in March or April, but it's every single night, every single night Monday through Sunday.
[39:00] Explosions starting in the daylight, 4 p.m. sometimes, 5, 6, 7 p.m. going as late as 1
[39:07] or 2 a.m. They're mortars that are so loud, I've never heard them like this
[39:11] before, they're so loud they shake our windows. And of course when we call we're
[39:17] asked for an address, a location, well we're inside our houses. So when you hear
[39:23] the explosion by the time you run outside. I mean I've been so upset sometimes I've taken walks
[39:28] around the block to see if I can see anybody. You know I've provided some addresses a few times
[39:35] but it's never the same so it's you know I've seen them explode east of Euclid south by the railroad
[39:44] track or north by the railroad tracks south below Lambert. I've seen them on all sides. We clearly have
[39:52] a big problem in our neighborhood. I just wish that we could come up with a
[40:00] Better approach, because whatever is going on right now is not being a deterrent whatsoever. A thousand dollar citation, they don't seem to care about. This is what I'm hearing. Feedback is that they don't care. I'm thinking, can we issue multiple citations, such as disturbing the peace, public nuisance, noise violations, harassment, endangerment of children, endangerment of property, attempted arson.
[40:27] We find firework debris in our backyard.
[40:31] One recently I have photos if anybody's interested in receiving them of a huge box.
[40:38] It was about three feet by three feet full of pipes that was dropped off at that intersection lit and the car drove away.
[40:47] I think we had those pictures, but you're out of time so maybe you could wrap it up here in the next few seconds.
[40:51] Okay, okay, so anyway, I've been sending message everywhere, we discovered that fireworks were being sold on offer up, which is a buy-and-sell app, and I've heard also Craig's list, the police chief told me he's heard that, and so I've also contracted Spectrum One News who is working on a story on this problem, and they're going to try to address the purchase end of it, but I'm just hoping that we can come up with some, if you have my email,
[41:21] email you know all my suggestions and I'm hoping we can find a better
[41:27] solution. I appreciate your email my wife here's the fireworks all the time
[41:31] too. So maybe in the next week or so the chief could have somebody give her a
[41:35] call and kind of strategize a little bit maybe that'll be helpful because we
[41:39] have like any agency limited resources and we have to see them to catch them and
[41:45] find them but maybe there's some strategies with the neighborhood you know
[41:51] Yeah, this is the feedback we're getting and it's just I'm sorry. You're I'm not the only one
[41:56] I'm just trying to
[41:57] My wife part of the crowd here in the fireworks. Yeah, so well. Thank you very much. Thank you. It's about the worst
[42:03] I've ever seen it. Yeah, I live in a lot of 50 years and I've never seen it this bad this early
[42:07] Thank you, and I would just hope that our police department has zero tolerance if they get somebody
[42:12] Sightom I just wish you could attach it to a car registration like they do parking citations or
[42:19] contact landlords so people get evicted or contact homeowners insurance so their home
[42:24] owners insurance says we're going to cancel it if you're cited firework or something there's
[42:29] got to be something okay well you'll have another opportunity to talk the chief or his designates
[42:33] and details thank you okay thank you
[42:43] good evening my name is Salvadoran Ricas I'm a neighbor of
[42:47] Julie and I grew up in the hopper and I'm addressing the issue of the fireworks as well because it is
[42:54] out of hand, it's so frustrating to be, especially if you're a light sleeper, to be woken up
[43:02] at 1, 2, 3 in the morning, whether these things going off, everything that she said, I'm
[43:11] not going to go back and say it, but I would like to have more possibilities. Could we go
[43:17] institute, maybe, I don't know, like the Old West, a reward somehow for people to come
[43:26] forward and report where they're coming from, you know, anonymously, obviously, but
[43:32] to make it to where something can be done because at the moment it's just ongoing and nothing
[43:41] seems to work. So the pets I mean I've had my garage torn up by my dogs putting them in there
[43:48] because they get so nervous and I'm sure not the only one that deals with this so I appreciate
[43:56] your time and I won't take any more but please. Well thank you and we have your address and email
[44:01] correct. Yes you do. Okay. Thank you.
[44:15] Rhonda how many people are out there?
[44:22] Okay, because we're actually out of time, we'll take him and then my colleagues you want to take the other three that are waiting.
[44:32] If you'd rather take them, that's fine.
[44:34] No, no, no, we'll take you now.
[44:36] Oh, go ahead, Robert.
[44:37] No, it's good, Robert.
[44:38] Okay.
[44:39] We'll talk about it when you're done.
[44:41] Okay. My questions are directed to the city attorney specifically.
[44:45] and a chief price because I know it's difficult obviously everybody's voiced
[44:51] that but it's very difficult to track it down and find out where it is my
[44:55] specific issue with the problem is the leniency
[45:00] I've read some posts where somebody said that one of the officers gave a guy a ticket for $1,000, and he kind of laughed about it and set off another one. So if the fine isn't enough, let's increase the fines. And if a fine doesn't do it, is there any way we can make it a misdemeanor or an actual crime as opposed to just a citation? Because this isn't working. What you're trying is flat out not working. It's time for change. So I don't know what the change is, but I would love to work with
[45:30] to you guys, and let's get something working.
[45:32] You talk about cheap price, about LaHobber being the cutting edge of the, I'm sorry,
[45:39] the term you used, the escalating.
[45:41] Well, let's be cutting it on getting rid of fireworks, and maybe it would be a program
[45:45] that the state or the county and everybody else picks up on.
[45:48] If it has to go to the county level or state level, let's do that, because keeping it localized,
[45:54] it's absolutely failing.
[45:56] Thank you very much, I think we have three really interested parties to discuss it so I'd ask the chief again is to reach out with a designee or talk to him now if you'd like but maybe we can get a group going to kind of brainstorm suggestions.
[46:13] Just
[46:16] speak in public comments, okay do you my colleague is mind if we take this last person?
[46:21] Okay, thank you for your time.
[46:23] Thank you.
[46:23] Thank you Robert.
[46:24] Take care.
[46:25] Okay, we're on to bring them on.
[46:27] Thank you.
[46:28] And then that's our last speaker.
[46:30] I
[46:45] mean I'm misunderstanding everyone has spoken.
[46:47] We're good.
[46:47] Thank you very much.
[46:49] Then I will close public comments.
[46:51] At this time then we'll go to the consent calendar.
[46:53] All matters on consent calendar are considered to be routine and will be enacted by one motion
[46:58] unless a council member or member of the audience requests separate action or removal of an item.
[47:03] Removed items will be considered following the consent calendar portion of this agenda.
[47:08] Members of the audience will have the opportunity to address council on removed items at that time.
[47:13] Speakers must limit their comments to three minutes each.
[47:16] The consent calendar appears on pages two through five on the audience agenda items A1 through
[47:22] A21, B1C1, D1, and E1, staff want to remove any item?
[47:29] No, Mr. Mayor.
[47:34] Council, let me look real quick here.
[47:43] Okay, then we're good.
[47:44] Then is there anyone in the atrium that wants to speak?
[47:47] You know, in the public,
[48:01] so I'm good, we're good.
[48:03] I guess you're calling somebody over there.
[48:05] I got the letter.
[48:06] Okay.
[48:53] I'm not hearing anything back.
[48:57] Do we have someone there that's asking?
[49:00] Not that I know if she's an answer yet.
[49:10] Do you want to have Ronda run over there real quick?
[49:12] Yeah.
[49:13] Would you mind checking?
[49:14] Yeah.
[49:14] Thank you.
[49:17] Actually, you can walk Ronda.
[49:18] Yeah.
[49:19] Yeah.
[50:36] So, city manager, we should get two cans with a string over there. Do you remember that from our younger days?
[50:47] I'm technologically proficient for that kind.
[50:58] Okay, Mr. Mayor, I'd like to make a motion to approve the consent calendar. I'll second. Thank you. There's much second. Will the clerk, please call the roll. Councilmember director Modrano? Yes. Councilman, excuse me. Councilmember director Shaw? Yes.
[51:15] Councilmember director Gomez.
[51:17] Yes.
[51:18] Mayor Pro Tem director Espinosa.
[51:21] Yes.
[51:21] Mayor director Beemish.
[51:23] Yes.
[51:24] Thank you very much.
[51:26] We'll now go to public hearings.
[51:27] A duly notice is a duly noticed joint public hearing to consider the adoption of the fiscal
[51:32] year 2020-2021 municipal budget and relating resolutions and consider a resolution establishing
[51:39] the appropriation limit for a fiscal year commencing July 1, 2020.
[51:43] and then in June of 30, 2021, pursuant to Article 13B of the Constitution of the State of
[51:50] California. Call for staff report, so perhaps the only thing we need unless my colleagues
[51:57] reject is anything that changed from last time we were here. And then if we have questions,
[52:02] we can open questions, but I think that will shorten things up.
[52:09] Good. Yeah, good.
[52:10] Okay. Good evening, honorable Mayor Beemish and members of the City Council.
[52:14] Tonight we ask that you consider the adoption of the fiscal year 2020-2021 and
[52:20] approve related resolutions.
[52:23] A budget study session was held on May 28, 2020 to present the proposed 2020-2021 municipal budget.
[52:31] After the presentation, council director staff to implement budget cuts to city council,
[52:37] Also planning commissioners and committee service commissioners stipends by 10%.
[52:43] At the June 1st, 2020 Council Meeting staff presented Council approved staff presented
[52:49] and Council approved the annual Consumer Price Index CPI adjustment on eligible city fees.
[52:57] The approved fee adjustment for 2021 was 3.1% resulting in an increase in the projected
[53:08] In addition, after the proposed budget was presented to Council in May, two additional general fund changes were made as part of the updated proposed budget.
[53:19] $52,000, $52,025 increase in the police department budget due to an adjustment to the staff's proposed furlough plan.
[53:28] Due to anticipated family leave needs among several of the police dispatchers, staff
[53:34] proposes not to furlough any police dispatchers in fiscal year 2021.
[53:39] It was also a 28,690 increase in the community services budget to fund additional hours
[53:45] for park attendance to monitor and enforce group activity restrictions as a result of the
[53:50] COVID-19 pandemic and public health guidance.
[53:54] All of these adjustments have been incorporated into the proposed $130 million, $59,245, 2021,
[54:02] municipal budget, of which $45,677,3, or 35.1% is a tribute to the general fund.
[54:13] The fiscal year 2021 budget is in balance with revenues exceeding expenditures by $4,216 due
[54:20] to changes the city council made during the May budget presentation.
[54:25] I'd be happy to answer any questions that you might have or give a full blown review which you have decided not to do.
[54:30] The agenda reports from anybody, Ken?
[54:34] I was traveling today, so I got a little bit behind on the news.
[54:39] I do know that the legislature passed the budget.
[54:44] And I wondered if anyone was able to speak at all to the impacts that the state's newly adopted budget is going to have on our city operation.
[54:54] our city budget.
[54:57] You know anything to him?
[54:59] We haven't seen it.
[55:00] No, it's it's hot off the press. It's literally was just a few hours ago, so I'm sorry to spring that on you, but I do know that the state did, you know, basically passed the budget, so I was curious. Okay, I'm, I didn't hear it. They're in an impass and have not passed it or they passed it. No, my understanding is it was past. It was passed. Yes. Okay.
[55:27] Any other questions, staff?
[55:28] No,
[55:33] for me, so then we'll open the public hearing speaker. Thank you.
[55:58] So you know to give us your name, right?
[56:01] You can do this a lot. Good evening, Mayor Beemish and members of the City Council.
[56:07] I need to get close to the mic. Good evening. More? Good evening, Mayor Beemish and members of the City Council.
[56:16] Well, my name is Marie Lavyaga, and I'm the President and CEO of the La Haba Chamber
[56:20] of Commerce.
[56:21] First and foremost, I wanted to just spend some time thanking you for going over the budget
[56:27] as you have, and I know that it's really, really hard and very hard decisions that you've
[56:33] made.
[56:33] But so I applaud you for your efforts.
[56:36] I'm here today to just say thank you for considering the Chamber still in that budget.
[56:43] and just to say that our, the Chamber was really in a good position before COVID-19 came about.
[56:55] We were doing well with membership and we were looking to balance our budget as well depending
[57:02] upon citrus fair and how that went. But as you all know, that had to be canceled and so it has totally
[57:10] We turned our budget upside down and caused a lot of havoc.
[57:14] We've attempted to apply for various things, which nonprofits 501C6s do not qualify for.
[57:24] So, that has been closed doors.
[57:27] And we've cut our budget as far as our employees and even myself to try to keep us in the black
[57:35] and not, you know, be a burden to any other organizations or what we could do.
[57:43] I'm here today to ask that you consider increasing, and I know that's unheard of,
[57:50] increasing our funding so that we can reach out to members, make sure that the community
[57:57] in addition to members. Right now, we try to focus primarily on our members
[58:01] and promoting them and supporting them but we have a whole, we're only 350 members,
[58:07] there's so many businesses that we're not even touching or reaching and so we would
[58:12] asking that you consider perhaps another 10,000 to give us a little bit more room to be able to
[58:20] reach other businesses in the community and we would love to discuss more options that we do have,
[58:28] We are looking to support outside businesses without them being members for a good 90 days and then let them consider if it's been of aid at least give them a boost, give them some sort of advantage within our community.
[58:46] So that's what we are here today to ask you to consider.
[58:50] And again, I just want to thank you for everything you do to support the chamber and for considering us in the budget at this moment.
[58:58] Thank you.
[59:01] Don't break it.
[59:17] Are
[59:30] there other speakers or is that it really?
[59:35] Okay.
[59:36] Okay, so then I will close the public hearing and call for council questions, discussions, or action.
[59:44] So I've got a question, I guess, but I'll go with my colleagues first if they have anything.
[59:50] Rose?
[59:51] Who's there?
[59:54] No, no questions, Mr. Mayor.
[59:55] Just thank our staff and employees for.
[1:00:00] We're coming up with the budget that that was feasible. It's hard enough with all the furloughs and things that nature. So thank you, Chair. Just, you know, I wish that we are in a position to give them more funding, but unfortunately we're not and everybody's grunting the crisis that we're in right now. And the chamber as we have to become come up with creative ideas to raise those funds.
[1:00:29] and whether it's relying more on volunteers, but hopefully the situation we're in will be temporary and
[1:00:37] we won't have to experience the cuts that we have in the future.
[1:00:43] One suggestion for my colleagues to consider, and I don't know if this is even practical, but we have this
[1:00:50] unallocated money because of the stipends we deducted a $4,216 I think.
[1:00:56] I think I don't want to just give it directly to somebody, but could we allocate that to community development because I'm expecting them to be working more hours and maybe asking for more resources from the chamber, would that be a good guess.
[1:01:13] And I'm thinking if we allocated the community development, Andrew then could use it to reimburse
[1:01:22] the chamber maybe for services or can we even do something like that?
[1:01:29] So I don't believe the furlough plan we have in place for all of our staff assumes equal amount of furloughs across all departments.
[1:01:38] So the amount of money wouldn't hardly make any difference at all in community development furloughs.
[1:01:43] No, no, no, no, that's not what I'm saying.
[1:01:45] I'm saying if we ask the Chamber to do things above and beyond what we gave them the $20,000 for,
[1:01:55] Andrew could provide them with the $4,000 or the $1,000 whatever it is if they had to assume an extra cost on our behalf, does that make sense?
[1:02:04] So in other words, if we were to ask the Chamber to do something that we wanted to do ex with businesses.
[1:02:11] And they were to invoice us for that amount.
[1:02:13] I mean, if it's something that would be within the appropriate use of governmental funds and
[1:02:18] in support of the Chamber's underlying activities that we don't already fund them for.
[1:02:23] Yeah, we could use the money for that.
[1:02:25] Okay, then I would like to do that because there's a little cushion there, because I'm expecting and
[1:02:29] may be Andrew can set me straight if I'm wrong,
[1:02:32] but I'm expecting us to ask more things
[1:02:36] of the chamber than what we would have normally
[1:02:38] because of COVID-19 and businesses restarting, right?
[1:02:44] Tom, I would rather than come up with some kind of plan
[1:02:48] and come to us to see what the benefit's gonna be first,
[1:02:51] rather than simply just turn over money.
[1:02:54] I mean, we're in a situation where we're furlowing cops
[1:02:56] and we haven't even been able to take care of our own first,
[1:02:58] But if that's what you're proposing, I would like to see something more, a plan in writing,
[1:03:03] see what the benefit will be to us, and the financial impact, and look at it closer rather than just
[1:03:08] say we're going to give you $5,000, $10,000.
[1:03:11] I agree with that because that was my thing of giving it over to Andrew as he could kind of do that.
[1:03:17] So maybe what we could do is reach out to Chamber and say, look, what additional value are you going to present to the city and what's
[1:03:25] And then you can come back to the council and then if we agree with that then we'll do what we need to do
[1:03:31] So good. I appreciate that Jim. So my recommendation would be not to allocate the funds at all at this time and just keep the funds as
[1:03:38] Small budget surplus until such time the chamber comes to council with a plan that you guys are amenable to and then you can
[1:03:45] Allocate the funds at that time then can Andrew convey that to the chamber. We'll make sure the chamber finds out
[1:03:51] Okay, then I have nothing further on that, so I guess we could go for a motion.
[1:03:57] I hear you making a motion.
[1:03:59] You want me to read all this stuff?
[1:04:01] Sure.
[1:04:02] Sure.
[1:04:03] Why not?
[1:04:03] I'll read it really fast.
[1:04:07] Okay.
[1:04:07] I move that we approve an adopt 2020-2021 allocation plan, municipal budget approve and adopt
[1:04:17] the resolution entitled the resolution of the City Council, the City of Labra adopting
[1:04:21] a budget for the fiscal year commencing July 1, 2020, and then in June 30, 2021, making
[1:04:27] appropriations for the conduct of city of the law or government, establishing policies
[1:04:32] for the administration, the adopted budget, and for other budget-related purposes.
[1:04:36] I'd move also that we adopt a 2020-2021 successor agency to the law or redevelopment agency budget,
[1:04:45] approve and adopt a resolution number and title of the resolution of the
[1:04:49] It's a faster agency to the redevelopment agency of the city of La Habra adopting the annual budget for the fiscal year commencing July 1, 2020, and any June 30, 2021 move that
[1:05:00] We approve an adaptor resolution, entitled Resolution of the City of Lob다 housing authority
[1:05:05] adopting the annual budget for the fiscal year commence in July 1, 2020, and ending June 30, 2021.
[1:05:11] I know that we approve an adoptor resolution, entitled Resolution of the Utility Authority,
[1:05:15] the City of LobWA adoptant the annual budget for the fiscal year commence in July 1, 2020,
[1:05:20] and ending June 30, 2021. Move that we approve and adopt a Resolution, dubbed Resolution of
[1:05:26] So the civic improvement authority, the City of Lavera adopting the annual budget for the fiscal year commence in July 1, 2020 and ending June 30, 2021, and move that we approve and adopt a resolution entitled resolution of the City Council of the City of Lavera establishing the appropriation limit in accordance with the Article 13, the Constitution of the State of California.
[1:05:48] for the fiscal year, comments in July 1, 2020, and ending June 30, 2021, and amending resolution number 5907.
[1:05:57] It's for a second.
[1:05:58] Second.
[1:06:00] Well, Kirk, please call the roll.
[1:06:02] Council member Modrano.
[1:06:04] Yes.
[1:06:05] Council member Shaw.
[1:06:07] Yes.
[1:06:08] Council member Gomez.
[1:06:10] Yes.
[1:06:11] Mayor Pro Temes, Benosa.
[1:06:12] Yes.
[1:06:13] Mayor Beamish.
[1:06:14] Yes.
[1:06:15] I appreciate staff putting the budget together, but it looks like this year we'll be talking about this here in a couple of months probably.
[1:06:24] So next up, do you really notice public hearing that considers zone change?
[1:06:28] 20-2 for an ordinance, modifying.
[1:06:31] Mahover, municipal code title 18, zoning chapter 18-22, commercial cannabis activity to reduce the number of permitted commercial cannabis distribution facilities, prohibit cannabis testing laboratories and modifications to existing development standards.
[1:06:45] percentage of the revisions of the California Environmental Quality Act sequest
[1:06:49] app is determined that the ordinance is exempt pursuant to business and
[1:06:52] professions code section 26055H, so that let me name any other statutory
[1:06:57] exemption or categorical exemption division 13 commencing with public resources
[1:07:02] code section 21,000 does not apply to the adoption of an ordinance rule or
[1:07:07] regulation by a local jurisdiction that requires discretionary review and
[1:07:11] approval of permits, licenses, or other authorizations to engage in commercial cannabis activity.
[1:07:17] The proposed modifications to Chapter 1822 to qualify for this exemption, the discretionary
[1:07:23] review, and any such law ordinance rule or regulations shall include any applicable environmental
[1:07:29] review, percent to division 13, commencing was section 21,000 of the public resources code.
[1:07:34] This subdivision shall become inoperative to July 1, 2020, continued from June 1, 2020.
[1:07:44] This is a time to call for staff report.
[1:07:46] I personally don't think we need a staff report because we've been beaten this source for
[1:07:50] quite a while.
[1:07:51] Does any of my colleagues want a staff report or ask questions?
[1:07:54] I agree with you, Mayor.
[1:07:56] Tim?
[1:07:56] Rose?
[1:07:58] Okay, thank you.
[1:07:59] No questions?
[1:08:01] No?
[1:08:01] No, then I'll open the public hearing.
[1:08:03] Is there anyone out there that wants to address this?
[1:08:08] I've checked.
[1:08:09] I've got any answer yet.
[1:08:40] Mayor, no there isn't.
[1:08:42] Okay, then unless anybody has a discussion, I'll make a motion.
[1:08:48] I will make a motion.
[1:08:51] Let me change this to this.
[1:08:53] Okay.
[1:08:56] I was appreciative when Rose kind of compromised last time, so I'm going to make a
[1:09:00] motion consistent with rows it made last time, which I will move that we approve that the city
[1:09:09] can shall take action and we retain the current limit, no, that we change the limits of four
[1:09:16] permitted, permitted commercial cannabis distributions to three, which we have applications
[1:09:21] in process, and that we reduce testing laboratory licenses from four to one, and make
[1:09:31] them modifications to, let's see, I guess is that all I need?
[1:09:35] Is that it?
[1:09:36] Okay.
[1:09:36] Is there a second?
[1:09:39] Second.
[1:09:40] Will the clerk please call the roll.
[1:09:43] Council member Modrano?
[1:09:45] No.
[1:09:46] Council member Shaw?
[1:09:54] Council member Gomez?
[1:09:55] No.
[1:09:55] Mayor Pro Temespinosa?
[1:09:58] Yes.
[1:10:00] Mayor B. Misch. Yes. All right. I'd like to get this done tonight.
[1:10:12] So, Mr. Mayor, without dragging it out again, I mean, I've been on the record plenty on this issue. But I think most recently, we've got some statistics as well from the police department reference statistics in the staff report. Yes, yes. And I understand we didn't have the staff report read.
[1:10:33] But most recently, I think there was a DUI a week ago this past Saturday on Harbor Boulevard that occurred directly in front of the Elahabra Cyclery having to do something to the effect of marijuana bathing with a pen.
[1:10:47] Again, it's the same. I stand fast and true. I think we're good with the three warehousing facilities testing hasn't come here.
[1:10:59] There's no need for it, let's take it off the books, and we'll go that way, and at some point in the future, for future councils, whether it does or doesn't include myself or anyone else here, they can take up the issue again then maybe in another five years, I think it's fair with what we have thus far, and I'll reiterate again, we don't know, we don't know what the future holds for that, whether or not there's going to be the same amount of revenue coming in from the additional two warehouses,
[1:11:28] or whether or not the two warehouses are going to take a revenue from that existing warehouse just by being here, so that's the best I can tell you.
[1:11:41] Well, I may make a comment then, so you just did. I'm going to keep mine real short too, so the distribution revenue side of it to me, it's all about a revenue issue, the lab testing, I really don't get your point on that because to me, that's a health and safety issue.
[1:11:57] But having said that, I would just notice everybody.
[1:12:01] And I looked at the statistics we got having the three distributions in town run
[1:12:08] reverse edge for the past year.
[1:12:09] Does not impact any statistics or any population on the harbor because distribution takes it
[1:12:15] and delivered to outside the city.
[1:12:18] As we know, the drugs are coming into the city and has nothing to do with this process we're
[1:12:24] talking about.
[1:12:24] But having said that, I respect your opinion, Jose, so go for it.
[1:12:31] I'll make the motion to approve the first reading of the ordinance entitled,
[1:12:36] an ordinance of the City Council, the City of La Habra, Orange County, California,
[1:12:40] approving zone change 20------02, modifying La Habra,
[1:12:44] a municipal title 18 zoning, chapter 18.22, commercial cannabis activity to reduce
[1:12:50] the number of permitted commercial cannabis distribution facilities from four to three,
[1:12:54] and prohibit cannabis testing laboratories and making modifications to existing development standards.
[1:13:01] Are you testing to zero then?
[1:13:04] Yes.
[1:13:04] Yes.
[1:13:05] I'll second that.
[1:13:06] Mr. Mayor, I would make a substitute motion to increase the number of cannabis distribution facilities from four to five.
[1:13:14] And to increase the number of testing facilities from four to five.
[1:13:20] I'll second that for you Tim, just so we can go to it down.
[1:13:25] Please call the roll.
[1:13:27] Okay.
[1:13:28] Okay.
[1:13:30] Councilmember Modrano?
[1:13:31] No.
[1:13:34] Councilmember Shaw?
[1:13:35] Yes.
[1:13:36] Councilmember Gomez?
[1:13:38] Absolutely not.
[1:13:39] Mayor Proto-Mespinoza?
[1:13:41] No.
[1:13:42] Mayor Beemish?
[1:13:44] Because to me it's revenue and health and safety.
[1:13:46] Yes.
[1:13:47] Thank you.
[1:13:48] Motion fails two to three, sorry.
[1:13:50] Right.
[1:13:50] Now we'll go back to Jose's motion.
[1:13:52] Does he need to read it again?
[1:13:53] Or can we just vote on it?
[1:13:55] Just so.
[1:13:56] Okay.
[1:13:57] Councilmember Modrano?
[1:13:58] Yes.
[1:14:00] Councilmember Shaw?
[1:14:01] No.
[1:14:02] Councilmember Gomez?
[1:14:04] No.
[1:14:04] Councilmember Gomez.
[1:14:04] This is Jose's original motion.
[1:14:06] Yes.
[1:14:07] Three facilities.
[1:14:07] No testing.
[1:14:08] I'll go with yes.
[1:14:10] Mayor Pro Temespinosa?
[1:14:12] I have a question.
[1:14:14] If this one fails, then what did the outcome?
[1:14:23] Unless there's a substitute motion then.
[1:14:26] No, not the substitute motion.
[1:14:27] I mean in case there's another substance to motion after this it would he would say well if this failed we could keep making notions
[1:14:33] Yeah, you can make motions all night long, but three votes got a lot. Okay. Thanks. Thank you. Thank you
[1:14:42] Rose
[1:14:47] Mary B. Misho.
[1:14:51] Did you vote no mayor? I don't know. I just
[1:15:15] You still like your compromise, Rose?
[1:15:20] Okay. So do I, no?
[1:15:24] Mr. Mayor, I make a motion that we table the item.
[1:15:30] Second.
[1:15:33] Seconded. I'll second.
[1:15:34] You miss? So by table in this, Mr. Attorney, that means we're taking a bit of different date, or what happens at this point?
[1:15:43] Now it would take it off the agenda until it's brought back by the council to remain
[1:15:49] off the agenda.
[1:15:53] The current law of the stand is currently reads.
[1:15:56] Oh, then the current law will stand.
[1:15:57] Yeah.
[1:15:58] At least until the next election at which time the new council could bring it back.
[1:16:03] You bring it back anytime you want it to.
[1:16:06] Okay.
[1:16:07] Okay.
[1:16:09] Councilmember Modrano?
[1:16:12] And this is the table, correct?
[1:16:13] Correct.
[1:16:14] Yes.
[1:16:14] Yes.
[1:16:16] Council Member Shaw.
[1:16:17] Yes.
[1:16:19] Council Member Gomez.
[1:16:28] No.
[1:16:31] Mayor Proto-Mespinoza.
[1:16:33] Yes.
[1:16:34] Mayor Beamish.
[1:16:35] Yes.
[1:16:36] Motion passed four to one.
[1:16:38] Thank you very much.
[1:16:39] Thank you very much.
[1:16:40] Okay, considerations.
[1:16:42] None at this time.
[1:16:43] Mayor's community calendar.
[1:16:53] The, it's that old slide we keep seeing here.
[1:16:55] Staying far in the bout the corner of iris
[1:16:57] and what you can do to help prevent it spread CDC and Orange County Health
[1:17:00] Haynes, you remind us all that there are several simple actions, wash your
[1:17:04] hands, alcohol, based hand sanitizer, stay mouth and nose covering it, county
[1:17:11] changed it to from a required to a recommendation but I would hope
[1:17:15] everybody especially going inside would wear masks. If you have symptoms stay at
[1:17:21] home and seek medical assistance if you're ill for more information you have the
[1:17:25] same websites OC health info.com and CDC government and there's we have the
[1:17:32] COVID listing on ours. It seems each day the state of California has a new
[1:17:38] announcement regarding relaxation of state home order while it certainly is
[1:17:43] welcome news to hear how more and more businesses are reopening with
[1:17:46] modifications to their operation. It does not mean things have returned to normal
[1:17:50] because the state's response to COVID-19 continues to evolve on daily basis. It is
[1:17:55] important that you stay informed. Visit the state of California, COVID-19 page at
[1:18:00] COVID19.cal.gov and stay on the know. The City Hall Police Station lobby, the
[1:18:06] Community Center front desk, we're open to the public, but all our other facilities
[1:18:10] remain closed to the public, pending further guidance from the state and county.
[1:18:15] As always, our operations continue. If you need to visit the city facility, please
[1:18:19] remember to wear a face covering. If you feel ill or have a fever, please stay home.
[1:18:23] for more information call 5-623-340-10 and you can visit us online at
[1:18:30] willhabrasie.gov or follow us on Facebook and Twitter and it's the census is
[1:18:36] still out there if you haven't completed it. The Census Bureau you can
[1:18:41] responses can be submitted to Census Bureau by mail phone or online.
[1:18:47] It's
[1:18:48] really important that everybody get counted. It determines congressional
[1:18:52] representation and how billions in federal funding is allocated to communities across
[1:18:56] our nation and that's even more important today than it has been in the past.
[1:19:01] Join the conversation.
[1:19:03] We still have the community survey out there.
[1:19:05] We'd really like to gauge resident opinion on service priorities.
[1:19:10] Again, this is really an important time to get your opinion out to us so that is it for
[1:19:16] Mayor's calendar comments from staff.
[1:19:20] Councilmember Jim Gomez.
[1:19:24] I want to really take this opportunity to thank our staff for doing such a wonderful job.
[1:19:30] First of all, public works.
[1:19:31] I just see all the work going on in our parks, parking lots going on there, the splash pads on a good work going on there.
[1:19:37] Community services, I see our camps in full speed and you guys just making a real difference in the community reaching those that have been its shut ends.
[1:19:46] And just, you guys just reinvent yourself all the time, so thank you Kelly for all you're doing.
[1:19:49] Community development, particularly during this time, I'm very impressed with what you guys are doing working with our restaurants where they're doing these parking lots.
[1:20:00] We've got eateries now, and courting that off, and also working with our faith organizations, so they can come out and do some services outside. So we really want to commend all our departments for thinking outside the box, and that's what we need. And maybe your roles change a little bit more, but it's very much appreciated. And I appreciate all that they're doing. Finally, I want to thank the Gonzalez family. Jose and I got to participate in Tony Gonzalez's 100 birthday this weekend. We had a great, big parade.
[1:20:28] He's Rose's neighbor and he's just a wonderful guy who's lived here, his entire life.
[1:20:35] And it was a really great outing to celebrate his 100th birthday.
[1:20:39] So, kudos and congratulations to Tony Gonzalez, turning 100 years old.
[1:20:45] Happy birthday, Tim.
[1:20:50] Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
[1:20:54] I appreciate the work that staff did on the budget.
[1:20:57] it and obviously we had our budget workshop a while back where we really dove into the numbers
[1:21:03] and proved it here formally tonight. Obviously this is a very difficult budget with the
[1:21:12] global pandemic going, recession going, revenues to the city really on their way down. Unfortunately
[1:21:22] with the recession, we've instituted furloughs to all city employees, unfortunately, out there.
[1:21:30] So it's got me thinking a lot about our budget situation.
[1:21:35] Frankly, even before the pandemic and the recession, I was gravely concerned about the long-term situation for our city financially with pension obligations and
[1:21:48] things like that, looming in the horizon, so I have, I think if you went back over the last four or five years,
[1:21:57] if you look to any split vote on our city council, or some voted yes, some voted no, I believe you would find without exception.
[1:22:06] I was on the side of saying yes to money revenue and no to spending. And people might think, well, what a particularly easy position to take,
[1:22:18] to be very physically constrained.
[1:22:21] It's typically on the night of the meeting
[1:22:24] when those votes are happening,
[1:22:25] that that is the unpopular position to take
[1:22:28] when you're sitting on the dais.
[1:22:30] It's a room full of people wanting you
[1:22:31] to spend money on something or wanting, or, or,
[1:22:36] so I've, many of these votes have been votes
[1:22:40] where I get booed at, frankly, but I just draw
[1:22:43] to down a list of some of the ideas I've tried
[1:22:46] to throw out there in the past, I brought up the idea of safe and sane fireworks.
[1:22:52] Every 4th of July, rather than lose money as a city, we could make money, and we were
[1:22:59] going to split it with our nonprofits.
[1:23:02] That idea failed, that was one idea I tried to bring up.
[1:23:05] We have four fire stations in our city, we're just over seven square miles, 63,000 residents.
[1:23:16] You know, perhaps the city, our size, doesn't need four fire stations.
[1:23:20] One of those four fire stations receives very few calls for service in here.
[1:23:27] I realize that's under a contract and that's very complicated whether we would realize significant
[1:23:32] savings or not, but I think it's the least worth contemplating.
[1:23:36] We've talked about regionalizing police services.
[1:23:39] is we actually spend a lot of money studying this,
[1:23:43] utilizing with our neighboring cities,
[1:23:45] things like dispatch and other things
[1:23:47] that could bring us greater efficiency
[1:23:49] in our police department budget.
[1:23:54] Obviously we've been beating the dead horse of cannabis.
[1:23:59] At one point, we did have three votes on the council
[1:24:01] to bring in a warehouse distribution facility
[1:24:04] which got us almost a half a million dollars
[1:24:07] in revenue just this year, I've had to say no to spending, we had an idea to hold a special
[1:24:15] election for the cost of a quarter of a million dollars that was not legally required.
[1:24:22] I was saying no to too much booze in this room, but thankfully, I mean, looking back a quarter
[1:24:30] million dollars as we're looking at the current budget, that's obviously significant.
[1:24:37] We had the issue of annexing county islands.
[1:24:42] We were going to have to play a jigsaw game with our water system going around unincorporated
[1:24:49] county islands.
[1:24:50] It would have cost our utility authority $2 million, additional $2 million to go swinging
[1:24:58] around islands.
[1:25:00] Room full of people here said, don't add access, but I wasn't going to spend $2 million to do that game.
[1:25:10] So, some of those are some of the, each of these votes have been split votes on this council.
[1:25:16] We now have a fiscal review committee that gave us recommendations. Obviously, it took our council
[1:25:22] about five seconds to begin ignoring those recommendations from that committee. I would invite
[1:25:28] my colleagues to look at those recommendations, or perhaps develop ideas of your own.
[1:25:38] I'm interested to see if you don't like any of the ideas I brought forward, then by all
[1:25:44] means bring forward some of your own ideas.
[1:25:46] These are never going to be easy, maybe not even politically popular.
[1:25:51] But getting more money in and having less money go out is the only way that we can write
[1:25:57] the ship and not be plowing through our reserves going forward.
[1:26:02] We can pray that we get a bailout from the state government, of the federal government.
[1:26:07] Obviously, we all hope that the economy recovers sharply, and
[1:26:11] we have more money just naturally coming in and tax revenue based on a stronger economy.
[1:26:17] But as they say, hope is not a strategy.
[1:26:21] So those are my comments, Mr. Mayor.
[1:26:23] Thank you.
[1:26:24] Let's go to Rose.
[1:26:25] Rose.
[1:26:29] Did you say Rose?
[1:26:30] I said Rose.
[1:26:31] Thank you very much.
[1:26:33] I'd like to thank the police department for the way they handled the march that came
[1:26:40] along that day.
[1:26:42] I know I had some resident members call me early that day that they had gone to business
[1:26:48] owners and the business owners were concerned because they've seen in other cities what
[1:26:56] But the outcome of these marches early on, and I wasn't going to go to the march to see
[1:27:03] or anything until I got the call from the person, and I just wanted to assure the business
[1:27:10] owner that we were not a city that they really had to worry about.
[1:27:16] I know the chief and all the police department has gone out of their way to make sure that
[1:27:22] that the community was intact and engaged throughout every year for the past ever since you've been chief.
[1:27:30] So I was comfortable with that, but yet I felt I had to go out there.
[1:27:35] And I did, I went out there to El Central Park and was looking from a distance.
[1:27:41] And when I saw the shoulders of adults, I felt okay, this is not going to be a march that I have to be really concerned of.
[1:27:51] and sharing that, I went up to Woody Boulevard
[1:27:55] and went over there by Magnolia business
[1:27:58] and rose to chicken and saw the group
[1:28:02] that was coming along and it was fine.
[1:28:04] And then I went to the business that was concerned
[1:28:06] and stood there in front of that business as well.
[1:28:10] And it was all, if there was going to be any kind of march,
[1:28:15] it would be that kind of march
[1:28:16] where everyone would respectful of the business owner
[1:28:20] is the properties, the police department, and so I just want to say that I am very, very
[1:28:25] proud of the police department and the professionalism and proud of the community itself that
[1:28:32] they were respectful of the properties and it was just one of those kind of marches
[1:28:38] that if you're going to have one that's a kind that you want to have your community.
[1:28:42] So I just want you to pass it on to the police department as well.
[1:28:47] you know, I was, sometimes you just want to do something, and so I was at home just relaxing,
[1:28:54] playing Majdan, and Lord Behold, in between the game, there's a little advertisement,
[1:28:59] and it's joined a conversation with, and I'm like, oh my God, there's a chief, there's a police department,
[1:29:05] there's Kelly, and it was just neat to see you guys in this, and I think I've seen you guys around 20 times now,
[1:29:12] So, I can't skip the ad while I would like to after a while,
[1:29:17] but you guys look great.
[1:29:19] I mean, you guys are very professional,
[1:29:21] and I heard you're getting a good response out of that as well.
[1:29:25] So, I'm glad that you guys thought of that.
[1:29:28] Whoever did, please thank them for doing that kind of outreach,
[1:29:32] because I see it every day now for the last two weeks,
[1:29:34] which is good, and I was wondering if you had gotten a good response
[1:29:38] from it or not as well.
[1:29:42] And the last thing, I think I just want to say, although I don't have all the information,
[1:29:47] I would like to adjourn in memory of Annette Garza, he meant as Annette Garza came to
[1:29:54] when I was a think a sophomore in La Harbor High School.
[1:29:58] And she was new.
[1:30:00] She was a student at our high school. But she just stood out because she looked like a model. She was just always dressed very beautiful. And you thought, well, she's above my league. I'm not going to hang around with her. But she was a type of girl that kind of, you know, just reached out to anybody. It didn't matter who it was. She was just very, she was just very caring person. And she passed away of cancer on Friday, June the 12th.
[1:30:27] She, her, her kids a long time resident members and so I, her husband is Johnny
[1:30:32] Humanist so I just want to say condolences to her and to the family and that, you know,
[1:30:39] that it's a tragedy when it happens to one of your family members, but that's life, you know.
[1:30:44] It's just a cycle of life so that would conclude my report.
[1:30:48] Ms. Nell is Annette Garza.
[1:30:51] Humanist.
[1:30:55] Okay.
[1:30:56] I kind of took you out of, or out of a rosé, because I thought you might want to mention something
[1:31:00] about Oscar Serna.
[1:31:05] First I'll start off by saying thank you to our staff. Thank you for all
[1:31:11] the hard work you've put in during this time of COVID and thankfully we didn't have to face any
[1:31:18] serious civil unrest in La Habra. On that note I'd like to thank our police chief and the police
[1:31:26] department which was not surprising on my end for being professional and for allowing the demonstration to proceed as they had wanted and exercising their First Amendment right.
[1:31:41] I hold hard to support a person's First Amendment right on different levels as a police officer is elected official as a father, so I think that was very important.
[1:31:52] And thank you chief, please pass that on to the police department.
[1:31:55] Thank you for all your hard work.
[1:31:57] And also like to thank the fire department last week, we had a fire up in the hills.
[1:32:01] And in Hossie in the Heights, thankfully, that was put out in a timely fashion.
[1:32:07] I know I was texting with our city manager as it was happening because my kids alerted me.
[1:32:13] They were driving home and they saw some flames up on the hills.
[1:32:17] and I started texting Jim Sadro and he was texting me back, he was in touch with-
[1:32:24] As well, yes.
[1:32:26] I was wondering why two on the town wasn't out there yet, but apparently I had the scoop on him and I was talking to our city manager and he was in constant communication with our fire people up there.
[1:32:37] So thank you for putting that out and for not letting it come this way and for not letting, for my understanding, no structures were destroyed up there, correct?
[1:32:46] which further I think would be a public service announcement of sorts for fireworks in general.
[1:32:56] Thankfully, we don't sell them here in Lahabra, our proximity to the hills is one thing.
[1:33:00] And as our summers and our early falls get drier and drier, it's a tough thing to have to put up with.
[1:33:11] I know I've done it as far as the enforcement of that at one point or another in my career.
[1:33:20] And fireworks are fun, they are.
[1:33:23] But what I've learned, and it's probably that I'm becoming my parents maybe, maybe
[1:33:28] resting piece, is that I'm getting old and I'd rather see them at controlled events like
[1:33:35] our 4th of July event and when I was a kid it was fun going to Dodger Stadium to see that
[1:33:40] because I know my dad would take us as a kid so it's another alternative and I know that's
[1:33:46] economically a Dodger Stadium, Angel Stadium aren't available to everybody but traditionally we do
[1:33:52] have a firework show here in the city. Not sure if that's going to happen this year probably not
[1:33:56] but regardless we look forward to those days and see what happens. Other than that yes I would
[1:34:02] We also like to close in the memory of Oscar Serna Senior.
[1:34:06] Oscar Serna Senior was passed away, passed away earlier this month.
[1:34:11] Father to Oscar Serna Junior and his family, his wife Laura,
[1:34:16] Oscar Junior's wife Laura and their three children that live here in La Habra.
[1:34:20] Oscar is a father and a volunteer over at La Habra Girl's softball when I was here also at AYSO.
[1:34:27] He's a very good member of our community and we talk every so often.
[1:34:33] I was quite taken aback and saddened that his father had passed away.
[1:34:37] So, thank you, Mr. Mayor.
[1:34:40] My pleasure, a couple things.
[1:34:42] One, thanks to Saf again on the budget.
[1:34:44] Just so you know, I feel your pain and the reason I can say that when I worked at Edison.
[1:34:49] I have shared this with Jim Sadrow, but we did activity-based costing.
[1:34:54] But one of the things we did that was horrible for the employees.
[1:34:57] As we ranked them as essential employees, we had
[1:35:00] Groups of your number one, your number two, and your number three, and the first to go on lay
[1:35:05] off, start with the people at number three, so you can imagine not much of a team feeling
[1:35:11] there. So I much prefer the way we're handling this, because we are a family in my mind
[1:35:16] and we're in it altogether. So I appreciate our city manager setting me straight occasionally.
[1:35:24] He doesn't hesitate to do that when I go off the deep end. So thank you. Tim mentioned the
[1:35:29] The fire contract, as you know, we gave direction, I think two council meetings ago to go out, provide, find savings to the city of the fires of fire contract.
[1:35:40] I just put this in your ear that may be a study session with a council at some point to be determined would be really good when we start talking about what options that you would like to do.
[1:35:53] Again, I'd like to reiterate my support for the police department.
[1:35:58] It's been, I think, I've been very supportive over the last 16 years.
[1:36:03] I would say when I did call out to quite a few members of our community trying to find
[1:36:08] somebody that had a story that was maybe somewhat negative, I 100% of the people I talked to enjoy
[1:36:17] the interaction with the police. They say you do a fine job. Having said that I think we all can
[1:36:26] always improve and I know that you strive to improve. There's probably better ways of doing certain
[1:36:35] type of policing out there. I'm getting at is benchmarking best practices which I'm sure that you do.
[1:36:41] So with the dialogue that's going on in this country today, it's serious and it's well
[1:36:47] meaning from a lot of people.
[1:36:49] So I would hope we find ways to ease the pain and find better ways of policing.
[1:36:58] So thank you very much.
[1:36:59] And with that, I will adjourn in the memory of Oscar Cern a senior, and that gars the
[1:37:05] The menace council's condolences to both those families and we are now adjourned until
[1:37:11] sometime in the future.
[1:37:14] Thank you.