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The City Council of January 21, 2014 left the record reflect that it is 6.35 pm. The location we're given by City Deputy City Attorney Ryan Jones, followed by the flag, so that led the council member, Espinoza, did all rise.

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Please bow your heads as I pray. Dear God, we humbly pray that you will grant wisdom to the City Council as it considers City Business set forth in the meeting agenda tonight.

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We ask that you provide the City Council with insight and understanding of the responsibilities

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and challenges confronting our council, staff, and citizens so that we can together strive

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to solve these issues with community spirit and partnership in mind.

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Please bless the Council in this decision making tonight, so we may act prudently and responsibly

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for the good of the harbour community. Amen.

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Please face our nation flag.

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Begin.

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I would like to be a student flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic,

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towards the stands.

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One nation under God.

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Invisible.

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We would like to be in justice for all.

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All right.

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Well, clerk, please note that all council members are present.

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Are there any close session announcements?

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There would no actually take any close session.

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Thank you very much.

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Then we'll go to Propillations and Presentations.

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So I'll ask Sal to come forward and the beautification committee.

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No, you too, Sal.

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I'll shake your head and think.

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You'll ever else.

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Good evening, everyone.

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Each year, a beautification committee conducts a contest to recognize

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the Hopkins who spread holiday cheer to others by decorating their home.

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This year we received nearly 30 nominations and of course we also want to recognize the people that

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weren't nominated but did decorate their homes and participate in spreading holiday cheer.

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This evening we are going to recognize the outstanding participants and the awardees.

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So if we could start with our first winner we have our grand prize winners from a 920 Linda Avenue

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and that's the Miller family if we could have Carla and Richard Miller please come up.

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And if you could stay up here while we do a picture as well and their home is just beautiful.

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They have a beautiful historic home and they do a rendition of beautiful white lights and

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we really thank you for spreading your holiday chair and I do want to recognize our committee members.

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This is Elizabeth Steeves and Kim Praster, and we also have Venice Sharp here, and they drive

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around town and look at all the wonderful lights and nominate your home

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and congratulations.

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Congratulations to the millers and next if I could have 1100 Circle Avenue, it's the Palcoffer family if they're here tonight.

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Okay, next we'll have

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for best use of lights winner it's 2-2-4-1 sign on Avenue, James

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I'm Walter please come up

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as you can see in the photo he spelled out Noel on his roof

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which I think is pretty impressive congratulations.

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Thank you.

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Next we have, again, for best use of lights. We have 1301s here, VISTA, we're able to make it tonight.

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No. Okay.

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And for best use of theme, we have 1320 Lakeview Avenue. This is Roger and Susan Chavez. If I can please have you come up.

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Well, we were expecting them, the neat thing about their displays, it actually is all hand made by their themselves. They hand craft these lights themselves with with hard wire and they do a wonderful job.

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Next, we have the Suicif theme winner. We have 9-11 Tropocannoy. If I can have Mark and Victoria Havens, please come up.

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And I believe this was a tribute to your mother. Was it you?

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Yes, in a while.

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Well, thank you.

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It was a beautiful, beautiful job.

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And lastly, we have Michael Birch told,

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at 350 La Pazza Drive, is he in today?

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And his property is me.

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He actually has music that is in St. with the lights.

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So he does again a wonderful job, congratulations.

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you to the committee for all of your hard work and to these wonderful families who spread holiday cheer.

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for us. They do a wonderful job, and I'm sure they're light bills interesting too. Thank you.

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Certainly a fun time of year. I like going around looking at all the Christmas decorations.

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This is the now time for public comments. This is the time for the public to address any

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of City Business not appearing on the agenda.

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Speakers must limit their comments to three minutes each.

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The total time period for public comment is 30 minutes.

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Note, per government code section 54954.3A.

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The City Council cannot take action or express the consensus of approval or disapproval

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on any public comments regarding matters which do not appear on the printed agenda.

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Please note, if you're coming forward to speak,

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The green light at the podium indicates that you have three minutes to speak.

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The yellow light indicates you have one minute left to conclude you're speaking.

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The red flashing light indicates that you have exceeded your lot of three minutes.

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So now is the time. Is there anyone here that would like to make public comments to the council of anything not on the agenda?

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My name is Warner Abbey High and I've been a resident for 28 years in here.

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Give me the homeworks, let's say you three.

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I live off of a nuclear and imperial, not a very fun place. I know that we have in a planning committee that we're going on, but it's becoming so ridiculous that I feel that I might next to a freeway with a wall that was built, or side of the town, or of a nuclear imperial, we were not notified about how high the wall was going to be. I know I spoke before about this, but now I feel that it's like freeway.

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Right next to Renee with her, the noise, the volume of cars coming, you know, through there, the smog.

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Every time we walk in our backyard and I will smell like something is burning and when I show what it is.

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Well, it turns out that when we find out, we can notice there's another spray booth being put up on the 1000 foundation, which is like right there next to my backyard.

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I found out not only do they have that they already have, they put the spray booth in the

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building before they notify us to comment or make any comments about this, so it was

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installed before it was even granted a permit. Not only that, I found out that I know that

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in period of body shot had two booths already, but then I also found out there's another booth

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which is just on a period of highway between the Euclid and Walnut, plus there's another one

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on the other side close to Cyprus.

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I don't know if you people who give the premise or authorize

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premise, there's a school within that boundary.

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And that's just too many spray blows next to that.

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I know anybody knows here there was a fiberglass company

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right there and we fought it and we fought it

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and we finally they were gone.

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Now we have this and I know when those tennis came in,

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I introduced myself that I'm the neighbor to watch

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so what kind of business you have here

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and they told me of the storage unit

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to store furniture for parts that isn't that.

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So I don't understand where the spray booth came into place.

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I talked a couple of people in the city,

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I tried to talk to the environment, and this and that,

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I'm not getting nowhere, and then to find out

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the spray booth is already operable

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before we even notify it.

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It's not acceptable to our neighborhood.

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OK, thank you for bringing that to our attention.

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And you'll need to talk to Mike Hack back there.

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You'll raise your hand, Mike.

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He'll take your information, and we'll get to the bottom of it.

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Thank you. Is there anyone else, Vanna?

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Hello. My name is Vanna Shar. I live at 1141.

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Roddy, Dr. Hype, and LaHover.

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And tonight I'm representing the LaHoverhouse Lands Club.

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We are going to be having a post-to-fest.

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And the post-to-fest is a benefit for the

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Senior Nutrition Program put on by the city.

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This program has been hit by sea crustration

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and their hot lunch program has been reduced from five meals a week to four.

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For many of our seniors, this is the only hot meal that they get a week.

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And so therefore, the Lions Club is putting on a posthusance to help out our seniors.

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And you're all invited. It is $20. It's on Saturday, February the 8th at the Community Center.

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So we hope you can make it.

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Are there any questions?

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I will.

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I'll be there.

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Thank you.

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If you want to give out a phone number case, people want tickets.

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I can give you my cell number.

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It's area code 7143226587.

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Thank you.

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I hope you can all come.

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Thank you, Vanna.

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Is there anyone else that would like to address the council tonight?

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on a non-agendized title.

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Thank you.

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Good evening.

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My name is Norman Zuvitch.

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I live on the 3rd Avenue.

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Just moved in three years ago, next month.

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Love it in La Habra, and I'm very, very pleased with where I am.

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However, I did find something slightly disconcerting about a year ago.

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The proposal, and I'm questioning, is that proposal still intact for building apartments

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between the railroad tracks and the south end of the properties on 3rd Avenue from Harbour Boulevard West.

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Is that part of the General Plan update, Mike?

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I'm sorry, would you repeat that piece?

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I was asking staff, I don't,

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I'm not sure.

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Harbour is a Cyprus or a Cyprus?

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That's correct,

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yes.

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Yes, Harbour is a Cyprus and a North side of the track.

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Certainly.

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Yes, Mr. Mayor, that piece of property actually, there's two parcels designated medium-density residential, and it's slated to be considered tonight.

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So sir, that is part of our agenda item. So when we come up to talk about the general plan update, that's the time you need to come up to me.

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It'll be this evening, yes.

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Thank you.

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It's anyone else, this is non-agendaised items. Yes, ma'am.

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Good evening. My name is Gladys Fetter, and we actually came for the Community Distant to me. I'm going to speak.

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We live on the corner of Sunset and Urna, and we have a concern. There's some apartments that are behind us on top of the community or our business.

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And we don't know where to go, so maybe you can guide us. There's a family or group of people that live up there that are constantly very loud.

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Sometimes, 10 to 15 people in and out, I call the owner because the sign is up there to be cooperating with us at all.

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You know, it's a family place in and out.

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The other day, the police were there, the paramedics taking a little child away.

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So, how can you guide us so that we can keep our neighborhood?

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I would like you to do.

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As Dan talked to Mike Hack, he's director of community development jurisdiction.

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So, give him your name and number and maybe he'll talk to you tonight.

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But you'll work on it for it.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Is there anyone else here tonight that would like to address the council?

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Okay, seeing that I will close.

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Public will go to the consent calendar.

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All matters on consent calendar are considered to be routine.

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It will be enacted by one motion unless a council member or member of the

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audience requests separate action or removal of an item.

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Remove items will be considered following the consent calendar portion of this

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agenda.

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Members of the audience will have the opportunity to address council

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remove items at that time.

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Speakers again must limit their comments to three minutes each.

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You can set the three on the audience agenda.

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Are there any items that staff would like to remove?

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No, it's mayor.

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Council.

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No, anyone on the consent calendar?

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No, number seven.

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Hang on a second.

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Is there anyone else who would like to remove an item?

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Motion is there second?

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and we're going to call the roll, please.

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Council Member Gomez?

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Council Member Espanosa?

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Council Member Shaw?

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Yes.

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Mayor Pro Tim Blaisey?

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Yes.

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Mayor Beamish?

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All right.

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Thank you.

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Then we have item seven.

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Staff report?

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Thank you.

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Good evening, Mr. Mayor.

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Council members.

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The side of here is we're asking for the city council to approve a cooperative agreement

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with the Onch County Transportation Agency for the Union Pacific Rail Line Bikeway Project.

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This agreement provides funding to the city so that we can hire and consult an environmental

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work for the bike trail that's proposed along the north side of the Union Pacific Rail

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Attracts. The funding is for a CTU will pay us for $153,000 in congestion, mitigation and

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quality funds. And the city will match on 68,000 from general funds. This concludes my presentation

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of the opportunity to answer any questions. Any questions for the council?

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No. Thank you.

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Okay. And at this time, I'll open the discussion in the public if there's any. Do

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have any questions, Bob? Thank you. Thank you. And I will and oppose the comments.

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Okay,

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to approve the item.

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It's for second.

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Please call the roll.

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Council member Gomez.

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Council member Shaw.

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Yes.

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Council member Espinosa.

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Yes.

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My vote 10 blazy.

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Yes.

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Mayor Beamish.

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Yes.

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At this time, we'll go to public hearings.

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This will be a duly notice public hearing.

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Hearing to consider an environmental impact report, General Plan 2035, 2014 to 2021 housing element and climate action plan for the city of La Habra.

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I would just mention before we go to the staff report, this presentation will probably take an hour or so.

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There are certain elements that are required to be discussed in public, so we're not going to push this along.

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And we're done, we're done, so to speak, and so I will call.

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Before we go for any further Mr. Mayor, I'd like to first of all abstain on any changes

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to the property located at 9-5-1 South Beach Boulevard.

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I have a conflict of interest there.

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So Brian, if you would tell me why it would be appropriate for me to leave the room

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or when I have to, and when we vote, my vote would not include that.

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It is also anything within 300 feet of my residence at 234 Pacific Avenue.

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I will not be voting on that as well because there are some changes on Cyprus.

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Well, I bring up a point now. All of us live within Lahabra.

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I don't think anything comes near my house.

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But is that something we need to abstain from on a general plan update?

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I think it's up to the council. I don't think it's necessary.

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But if that's council's priority, they certainly can do that.

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Say for them, sorry, I guess I could have stayed on anything around my house.

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Okay.

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I think in most cases, the any zoning changes that would occur in the general plan

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aren't within a three-door foot radius.

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Exactly, if you're home.

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So you shouldn't have a situation where you'd have to abstain.

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By my situation, we have a Cyprus.

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In your case, it might be my way.

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Right, effectively.

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So I'll be sure to let us know when Jim needs to do that.

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I would ask the staff who knows the agenda items better when they know that this particular

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It comes item comes out with the Council Member Gomez's address. Please please inform me as well.

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I will let you know.

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Okay. Thank you.

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All right. Staff report.

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So this evening we'll have members of the Community Development Department provide a staff report and a presentation and also our consultant support that was involved.

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The general plan process has been a culmination really of a three year process that interacted with a great number of people from the community.

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There was a GPAC committee that was formed.

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We have consulting support of consultants that are expert in the area of general plan development, plus our own staff.

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And what you see tonight is the culmination of their work and effort into this presentation and then the actions that we're going to ask Council to take later this evening.

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So with that Michael Mike before you get started. I got I want to ask a few questions before we go into this

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What I look in this entire process

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Miss Mayor Mr. Gomez council member Gomez. I'm sorry plan be Dan in July 2010

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It's been a three and a half year process to complete the document due to the desire to involve the public in this process

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So you made every effort to get the public involved in this process

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We did in the City Council did by creating the General Plan Advisory Committee, the community,

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business community who's responding in this effort.

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Based on those efforts, the committee was tasked to draft comprehensive General Plan

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document for consideration by the Planning Commission in City Council.

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So what were the outreach efforts made to get the word out to the public?

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What I'm getting at is tonight, we're here, we're going to be presumably approving the General

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plan and you know I don't want to be in a situation where somebody said why to her to exactly

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whatever it's made. Do you want to come up participate in this portion or are you comfortable?

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I'm prepared. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, this mayor, Council Member Regulman has four

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public workshops were conducted in notices replaced in all water bills and an attempt to reach

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every property in the city.

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In addition, planned website.

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Special ads were placed in the Lover Journal.

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An announcement was placed on cable channel three.

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Displayed on a continuous 20-ful minutes

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were made at the notices were placed in the Chamber of Commerce

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Newsletter and posters placed in local businesses.

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And each workshop, the public was reminded

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of the General Plan update website,

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thought and provided their email address was added to the General Plan website, MealingWist.

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So, from a staff standpoint, are you comfortable with every avenue we made to reach the information out to the public over the last three to half years?

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Yes. Thank you.

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So, let me then clarify something of what we're about here tonight.

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So, I would think the most questions or concerns of somebody had not received notice would be if there be in resumed.

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Tonight is not about taking action to rezone anything.

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It's to approve and update the general plan for the city, 2035.

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At a later time, which further notification will be made when we will yield

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to come before us to do zone changes.

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Will that be one master big zone change or will it be incremental a few at a time?

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We are handling Mr. Mayor.

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I think on the heels of tonight, depending on whether or not the City Council will approve the General Plan, staff is proposing that we fairly quickly return to the Planning Commission and then to the City Council with hard zoning changes that would be of minor in nature and I'll give you an example.

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We have a large area of, well, the center of our community where, which is pretty cohesive and fairly quaint now in its zone R2, which means you can build apartments there.

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And so, through the general plan process, the general plan advisory committee recommended that we downgrade that to an R1, which means it has to remain a single family property.

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That's one of the types of changes that we're bringing forward to implement the general plan.

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That's first phase.

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That'll be coming before you sooner than the larger general plan.

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Sorry, zoning code update, whereby we take a look at the document altogether.

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Remember, we're proposing that we have mixed use categories never before done in the community.

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We need to create development standards to do those types of things.

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to make sure the parking's there, the open spaces there,

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the facilities are there, et cetera, et cetera.

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The design criteria are there.

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That will take quite a considerable bit more endeavor

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and we're planning on hiring a consultant

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to help us out on that.

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That will happen, hopefully I'd like to get it back to you

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seven months from now.

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OK, then so if I may person that owns property in the city

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and I didn't hear that this was happening,

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which is possible. They can state that tonight, but they will have another opportunity

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through the Planning Commission process, City Council process, for their particular

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property that may or may not be resumed, correct?

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That's a difficult question. Tonight, you're going to be considering all the elements of

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the general plan that include the land use element, and that's what your question is focusing

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on the land use element changes in the underlying land use for those properties after

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tonight's action. Those uses technically become existing but non-conforming types of uses.

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While the public and the property owners may come to the planning commission on subsequent

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zone change hearing hearings. Those are relating to standards and implementation of the land use

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you're considering tonight. So it's important to understand that by approving this document

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tonight, it sets in play and this is tonight. This is not a 15 day and a 30 day review process.

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these are done by resolutions, and so by marking your approval on this general plan action

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tonight, that becomes the law of the city of La Habra.

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So how would someone go about trying to get that change?

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Does it possible to change that in future public meetings?

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Anything possible?

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Land use is flexible, which I would think would be through the planning commission in the

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Council. In this case, use your example if someone was opposed to a land use designation

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that we're the Council's considering changing to tonight. Sure, they have the option

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getting up tonight and speaking and asking the City Council don't do it. They can do that

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and you can, you can deny it or they can come back at a future date in time and request a general

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a plan amendment and a zone change to change it back to whatever land.

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And you stay feel is the type of land use that would give them their value.

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Well, and something to clarify tonight, if we're doing a change to the general plan update,

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doesn't necessarily mean that the homeowner has to or the property owner has to go and make those changes.

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No. So it doesn't mean that, hey, you know, if you're proposing, you know, higher density or sublight doesn't mean that it will be done or it has to be done.

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That's why the term existing but non-conforming is confusing.

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No, absolutely.

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Those uses are continued allowed to continue to loft,

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as long as they stay within the code requirements of operating under that land use,

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are allowed to continue adding finitum.

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As long as they cannot radically alter their use, expand their use,

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but they're allowed to continue to operate.

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And, lady, for example, tonight, we had that gentleman, the came up here who was concerned about the proposed project in the future of the change to the general plan.

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That will come back to the City Council meeting in a planning commission meeting in the future.

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And, at that point, he can discuss that he would oppose a project like that.

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That's absolutely important.

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That would be a proper place to voice that.

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At that point in time, yes. This is a general plan, not a specific plan. This is broad.

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So, in the clarify, in a non-conforming use, if you have a business, it's non-conforming,

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and you sell that business, the new owner can still utilize the non-conforming status.

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Our current code says that as long as you keep it in continuous operation,

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and don't let it last for one year period.

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So, you occupy that building, you continue operating a restaurant list.

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Are there any more questions before staff proceeds?

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If I may start it now, we may be here a while.

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I mean, the one comment I guess I'd like to clarify, Mike, is that the general plan itself is not a static document, correct?

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I mean, it's not the plan that's going to be in the same condition today, as it will in, let's say, 15 or 20 years, that through the general plan amendment process, changes can be made as the council deans necessary or as community standards deemed necessary for changes and projects for instance, correct?

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That's correct. Okay. You categorize it as a living document that we'll change over. I was as conditions change. Absolutely. Mike, don't we have to reassess it on like an eight-year period?

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No, actually we have to assess it every year. Okay.

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And report to the council and the state.

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Any other comments?

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Questions? No. All right. Mr. Mayor, members of the council. Thank you for your time tonight.

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I'd like to introduce what he tester who will take you through the rest of the staff

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presentation. Thank you.

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Thank you, Mayor. And members of the Council, it is a pleasure to be with you.

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Some people have described this as the long road that we're at the end of, but let me characterize it really is the long of an existing road

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and what you're about to embark on is a new road.

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And before you start a test interrupt, I would like to know how we want to handle questions. Do you have certain segments? You want to ask questions after you.

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Okay, well, either it's at the discretion of the council.

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There we are going to talk about these four components of the plan here tonight.

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If you would like to ask questions during the course of the presentation, please feel

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to interrupt.

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There are certain sections such as the overview of the general plan in a little bit longer

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than the other than, for example, the EIR, etc.

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But if there is particular point that you feel is appropriate to ask the questions, it's

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really your discretion.

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I propose that the mayor is used all this questions for the night.

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Good thing I run the meeting.

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That'd be great, because I think sometimes it's difficult at the end to go back.

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So we'll just do it as it is.

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In terms of the memory of what's going on.

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The period of place, we ask the question.

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You feel free to say, well, hold on five minutes.

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Perfectly.

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Let me introduce, I am going to be giving the bulk of the presentation.

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But I have with me a number of key individuals who also participated in the effort tonight.

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and will be also part of the presentations. Tracy Ferguson, withackens, is the person who's been

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focusing on the housing section of the plan and the housing element is one of the components

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of the plan that you'll be talking about tonight. Michael Hendrix, to Tracy's left,

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is the gentleman who is responsible for the third item on the bullets up there in the screen.

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The draft climate action plan, as well. Men's Al, from KOA Associates, a topic, of course,

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it has a lot of interest in the community, the component of traffic and transportation within

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the plan as well, and then finally down the row, Alonso Pettron from Alford Gobar,

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the Associates, the GIA Associates, when we talk about economic development dollars in

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That's the end of it.

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Who will be addressing that particular component character tonight as well?

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Would he before you carry on, if I may interrupt, for just turn it on.

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I hope please.

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Members of the audience, I chair the general plan committee over the last two and a half, three years.

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And as a consequence, you probably won't hear me ask very many questions,

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because as my fellow members who are sitting here know, I ask way too many questions during the course of those three and a half years.

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So I want you to know that I am very familiar with the plan over the course of that time.

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And in fact, what if you feel like an answer to a question, you may have them directed to me or to Rose,

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who also sat on the committee.

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I'm more than ready to do that.

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And to that end, I would like to add that it's been 24 years since we last updated the general plan.

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You'll probably reference this.

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This is a document that does need a frequent review and it's state requires us to rewrite it with some frequency.

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So it's been thoroughly reviewed and I want to thank all the members of the committee, some of whom are here tonight for the hard work that they put in on this.

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I also want to thank Woody and his staff for all the help that they've given us.

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I think our own staff needs some thanks to and particularly my CAC, Carlos Harmillo and Roy Rams,

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and who are sitting there and I know there's some other staff members too that have contributed.

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So I just wanted to make it clear that the Council has been involved with this at least at the level of two of us being part of this process.

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And I would like to thank Council member, Mayor Potem, Lazy, also for the standpoint that the English was significantly improved in the grammar through the course of the final documentation.

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and get a college professor for you as well.

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I might just add, for those of you who haven't seen it,

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this is part of it, so you see all my little notes here.

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So all of us have been engaged from one time another on this,

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and yes, the English was very good.

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Well, it's well done.

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I had a good material to work with.

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And because my eyesight is aging, I'm aging.

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I forgot to introduce two people also who are part

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of the plan, Nicole Morris, and Ryan Potter,

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from Planning Center, D.C.E., on that one other fat document called the Environmental Impact Report

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as well.

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They were the principal authors of that particular document, which you will hear from tonight

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as well.

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So again, as you see on the screen, there are four different documents that you will be considering

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in your actions tonight, and we're going to start with an overview of the general plan.

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Let me emphasize, at the beginning, it's grounded with something that the Council saw probably

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two years ago. It's really the preamble to the plan. It's actually something that you reviewed

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after the planning commission after extensive input from the public and that was a statement

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of a vision for the future of the city of La Habra. It talks about who you are, how you're going

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to grow, what the nature of residential neighborhoods and the commitment to preserve those important

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neighborhoods as assets of the community, it talks about a prosperous economy, it talks

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about if we're going to have a fully complete community, you are going to have those

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community facilities, the parks, the schools that indeed are going to support the residential

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00:38:14,780 --> 00:38:20,640
neighborhood, adequate infrastructure and a commitment in your, indeed, a vision statement

451
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,020
out protecting the natural environment.

452
00:38:23,660 --> 00:38:28,840
Mr. Hack basically summarizes, this is another information council member Gomez and the

453
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:35,980
Minister of the Council, a list of, again, summary of the extensive public process that occurred

454
00:38:35,980 --> 00:38:38,840
throughout the meeting and the grade image there.

455
00:38:38,940 --> 00:38:41,360
We had over 300 people show up one night.

456
00:38:41,620 --> 00:38:47,320
So our attendance from the community interest from the community was substantially large.

457
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:52,400
Also in there, second bullet from the bottom, just to remind you throughout the course of this.

458
00:38:52,500 --> 00:38:57,380
We also had a couple of times where we came together with you, the Council, and it's joined

459
00:38:57,380 --> 00:39:02,520
study sessions with a commission at key benchmarks of the planning process as well and these

460
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:06,760
are described in the introduction of the document as well.

461
00:39:07,420 --> 00:39:12,560
The organization of your plan is a little bit different than the 2020 General Plan.

462
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:18,400
Bottom line is you are required under state law to have seven sections of what the state

463
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:19,380
calls elements.

464
00:39:19,980 --> 00:39:25,300
We have reorganized those and reorganized if you will want you called permissive elements

465
00:39:25,300 --> 00:39:32,320
under state law, to create what we call more of a topic orientation, so topics are grouped

466
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:41,420
as well in this plan. And this is shown on page 1-21-23 of your document. There were

467
00:39:41,420 --> 00:39:47,180
basically, in respect to those vision statements, really they sort of metamorphized into three

468
00:39:47,180 --> 00:39:53,740
overarching themes for the planning process. One is the notion about having a community that's

469
00:39:53,740 --> 00:39:59,980
sustainable and often we miss an individual's miss interpret what that word means often people

470
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:05,540
I think it's just strictly environmental resources, but the pure definition is stainably. It's a

471
00:40:05,540 --> 00:40:10,000
sustainable human being. It's even as a three-legged stool, each leg being equally important for

472
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:16,740
the process. The second major theme is, and this is really in response to evolution of legislation, of the

473
00:40:16,740 --> 00:40:23,340
preparation of the plan, change, and reduction of greenhouse gases. And then, third community, I know

474
00:40:23,340 --> 00:40:29,580
something was very important to Councilmember Esfanoza, the notion of a human being, population,

475
00:40:29,980 --> 00:40:34,060
that is healthy, and how we improve the population when there's a lot of research now

476
00:40:34,060 --> 00:40:39,860
suggesting that incidents of disease and asthma is really challenging, indeed, the health

477
00:40:39,860 --> 00:40:41,880
of indeed, our communities as well.

478
00:40:42,300 --> 00:40:45,260
Basically, three overarching themes as well.

479
00:40:45,740 --> 00:40:49,780
Again, I'm sure most of the folks here in the audience are interested in the diagram of peer.

480
00:40:49,780 --> 00:40:58,480
this is the new land use diagram. It's presented on page 2-5 of the plan. And again, just to clarify

481
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:04,980
what this picture is, it's a picture of the intended ultimate distribution of land uses by various

482
00:41:04,980 --> 00:41:11,520
categories by the year 2035. In looking at this and if you're to compare it to your existing

483
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:17,440
diagram, what you've been seeing in this diagram are more discrete categories than you had back

484
00:41:17,440 --> 00:41:21,540
and some new categories, then you head back on the 2020 plan.

485
00:41:21,700 --> 00:41:25,340
And this is the list of categories you see here.

486
00:41:25,820 --> 00:41:29,100
Summerizing what the changes are from the 2025 plan.

487
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:32,200
There was, you originally had on your plan categories,

488
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:33,640
but not really on the map.

489
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:37,300
A very low density residential classification,

490
00:41:37,860 --> 00:41:39,000
which is no longer applicable.

491
00:41:39,300 --> 00:41:41,420
Because no lands remain under that category

492
00:41:41,420 --> 00:41:44,420
or have been will be developed in that category in the future.

493
00:41:44,420 --> 00:41:55,460
It also makes one fine tune to a residential hide multifamily changes the category and raises the density by one unit per acre.

494
00:41:55,980 --> 00:41:58,920
Why you say that we make that kind of a fine tune tweak?

495
00:41:59,260 --> 00:42:07,900
Our economist here basically part of his charge was look at the reality of what the marketplace will support in terms of density given the land values.

496
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,820
What is doable in the city of La Habra?

497
00:42:10,820 --> 00:42:15,680
But so we made that change in that density category to reflect that as well.

498
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:22,440
And then to comply with both state housing law and the housing element as well as to provide

499
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:27,560
additional opportunities based upon the market forecast that Mr. Petron is from dead.

500
00:42:28,100 --> 00:42:32,760
We also created some additional multifamily categories to provide a broader range of housing

501
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:37,100
opportunities for the community, particularly at affordable levels.

502
00:42:37,100 --> 00:42:47,960
We also very importantly, on the top bottom three bullets, we looked at an question why some of the zones that you had in place today, some of the densities you had in place today,

503
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:52,960
we're not accommodating the uses that you had envisioned back in the 2020 general plan.

504
00:42:53,380 --> 00:43:02,140
And one of the key concerns in the questions were were you providing sufficient density to create economically doable projects within the community.

505
00:43:02,140 --> 00:43:06,680
So there are recommendations for three the bottom three bullets and changes of the density,

506
00:43:06,940 --> 00:43:12,900
upping the potential densities, and certain commercial industrial and office categories

507
00:43:12,900 --> 00:43:16,580
to meet that objective as well.

508
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:22,540
We also very importantly, and I believe Mr. Hat mentioned a few minutes ago, created opportunities

509
00:43:22,540 --> 00:43:25,640
for the intermixing of housing with commercial use.

510
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:32,120
This is a whole new series of categories that do not and does not exist in the 2020 general

511
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:38,540
plan. Fundamentally, they are intended to enable people to live close to where they shop,

512
00:43:39,220 --> 00:43:44,940
close to where they work, close to where they recreate. Most of the categories shown on

513
00:43:44,940 --> 00:43:51,360
this chart allow, basically, and there's been some confusion. And again, back to I think

514
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:57,420
a question that Council had, it doesn't mandate that you have all of the uses on the property.

515
00:43:57,420 --> 00:44:06,600
It says you may develop a property for commercial, 100%, it can be a 100% residential, or it can be a mix of uses.

516
00:44:07,140 --> 00:44:14,080
And these categories are applied when you look at the map only at properties that have a current commercial designation.

517
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:20,660
So that commercial designation doesn't go away, but it doesn't says we're giving you the opportunity to add housing to the mix.

518
00:44:20,660 --> 00:44:25,100
If you so choose, but you do not, it does not mandate the,

519
00:44:25,100 --> 00:44:27,480
indeed that particular use within the area.

520
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,260
Just want to be very clear about that as well.

521
00:44:31,060 --> 00:44:34,940
In the central district, or what we call the downtown across the street from where we are now,

522
00:44:35,260 --> 00:44:40,760
there are certain mandates about percentage of retail uses, and I'll talk a little about that area.

523
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:45,860
In terms of what this all shakes out, in terms of potential change area.

524
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:12,340
You see, a vast portion of this graphic is white. Those are your residential neighborhoods, because the committee was very focused upon that basic notion that your existing housing neighborhoods should be protected.

525
00:45:12,860 --> 00:45:26,400
They should not be go back and bulldoze and change with either use or significant density changes within the area. So those areas are not colored upon this particular graphic, because indeed the notion was, let's not change out the use within the area.

526
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:33,320
changes in those areas would be strictly limited to replacement of existing unit at current densities as maybe there today

527
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:37,840
that are compatible with as buildings may age and maybe replaced over time.

528
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:42,280
So indeed anything in those white areas would be complementary to what there is there today.

529
00:45:42,740 --> 00:45:51,860
The areas that are shown color down this map are either a change in the designation from the 2020 general plan or a change in density and

530
00:45:51,860 --> 00:45:55,040
I'm going to walk through these for you as well.

531
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,460
Let me first start with Whittier Boulevard.

532
00:45:57,860 --> 00:46:00,420
You're going to notice on this and other graphics,

533
00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:03,220
a fundamental concept that was important

534
00:46:03,220 --> 00:46:05,200
out of the economic analysis.

535
00:46:05,780 --> 00:46:07,060
And that was the fundamental notion

536
00:46:07,060 --> 00:46:09,260
that has much better economically

537
00:46:09,260 --> 00:46:13,060
to concentrate development at key intersections

538
00:46:13,060 --> 00:46:17,040
because the long strip corridors are very shallow parcels

539
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,500
that if you take a look at current codes,

540
00:46:19,620 --> 00:46:22,300
add parking requirements, add truck access.

541
00:46:22,700 --> 00:46:23,900
And the other things that are necessary

542
00:46:23,900 --> 00:46:30,520
to support commercial uses, it's not the kind of area on the shallow parcels where today in

543
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:34,840
the regional marketplace that you're going to have a developer come in and basically make

544
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:40,260
the investment to market. They are now looking at parcels that have scaled depth and if you

545
00:46:40,260 --> 00:46:45,580
will with in terms of their configurations. So what you're going to see here repeated as a concept,

546
00:46:45,660 --> 00:46:50,620
not only here and with your boulevard, but through a number of other locations is an ocean of

547
00:46:50,620 --> 00:46:55,960
concentrating the uses at the key intersections and a mix of the uses at the intersections

548
00:46:55,960 --> 00:47:01,660
and maintaining a lower intensity of use and possibly changing out some of the uses in between

549
00:47:01,660 --> 00:47:05,920
the area. So on what year of boulevard specifically we have the intersection of harbour

550
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:11,840
and the intersection of beach boulevard shown for either a mixed use configuration or the

551
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:19,100
intensification of retail commercial. With sections of the boulevard that either are designated

552
00:47:19,100 --> 00:47:27,780
for a mixed use or a residential designation, the purples or a mixed use, anywhere where you

553
00:47:27,780 --> 00:47:35,560
have this lighter tan color would be a residential designation as well. Bottom line just

554
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:40,320
to again remind you and the audience at those intersection, it doesn't mean the commercial

555
00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:45,320
designation that is there today goes away. Just gives you the opportunity to add housing,

556
00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:49,720
which is not permitted and was not permitted until this plan occurred.

557
00:47:50,260 --> 00:47:57,180
Kennedy was there to say that if you have a commercial designation but it gives them an opportunity for

558
00:47:57,180 --> 00:48:00,120
residential that really adds value to that property.

559
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:07,960
Yes. Very importantly, it does a couple things there. It provides additional value because we now

560
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:13,180
find in the marketplace and our economists at the real marketplace right out now. We've had a

561
00:48:13,180 --> 00:48:16,000
of retail potential during this last recession.

562
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:20,280
We also find that the demands are changing in retail pretty substantially,

563
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:21,740
it literally as we speak.

564
00:48:22,140 --> 00:48:26,300
But there has been a healthy market for residential through this time,

565
00:48:26,300 --> 00:48:27,240
even through the recession.

566
00:48:27,500 --> 00:48:30,180
And now even more, so there is that healthy market,

567
00:48:30,340 --> 00:48:33,600
which adds value, indeed, years ago, 15 years ago,

568
00:48:33,660 --> 00:48:35,600
that wasn't the case in these kinds of areas.

569
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:37,760
That is now the case out there in the marketplace.

570
00:48:38,420 --> 00:48:41,680
So I guess it's not countering to it, or maybe it is.

571
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:45,720
that if we decrease our commercial footprint a little bit

572
00:48:45,720 --> 00:48:49,200
a little bit, and then increase our residential footprint,

573
00:48:49,700 --> 00:48:52,660
the existing businesses would tend to be more successful

574
00:48:52,660 --> 00:48:53,380
on the hook.

575
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:54,140
They would benefit.

576
00:48:54,140 --> 00:48:56,320
So we wouldn't have a net loss of tax pay.

577
00:48:56,440 --> 00:48:58,700
In fact, our numbers, and I have one quick chart,

578
00:48:58,820 --> 00:48:59,420
we'll show you the numbers.

579
00:48:59,580 --> 00:49:02,780
You will see an increment of increase indeed of that possibility

580
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:04,020
as well.

581
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:06,380
And then there are other benefits without getting into, again,

582
00:49:06,380 --> 00:49:08,640
the detail, but in environmental analysis,

583
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:13,940
your trip generation when you integrate housing with the retail on a per capita

584
00:49:13,940 --> 00:49:19,000
basis comes down, which is a good, is a beneficial impact to the transportation

585
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:22,960
system, and is also a beneficial impact for those other new legislative

586
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:27,060
requirements on greenhouse gas reductions, energy reduction, et cetera.

587
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:32,300
So there are a series of, if you will, reverberating benefits that occur by that kind of

588
00:49:32,300 --> 00:49:33,600
mixing of uses as well.

589
00:49:33,600 --> 00:49:41,160
would be if I can interrupt to at this point. For example, in a place where you might see a higher

590
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:47,240
multi-family residential marked on this map. For those in the audience, this is not mean that there

591
00:49:47,240 --> 00:49:53,600
is a planned project to go into that spot. It means that it would be allowable, but the project would

592
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:58,460
still have to go through all of the checks and balances of the Planning Commission and the city council

593
00:49:58,460 --> 00:49:59,980
before that project could get built.

594
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:07,620
So if somebody had a concern that you're putting too many stories on a building right next to my one story home, that would all come out later.

595
00:50:08,460 --> 00:50:15,220
Let me just clarify, without getting through all the, we have hundreds of pages in the document. There are policies in the plan.

596
00:50:15,580 --> 00:50:26,600
The very carefully say that when you have an articulated, when you have a higher density adjacent to a lower density area, and there's a diagram in the plan that you shall have a transition to building scale on height.

597
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:31,900
So that you don't have a abrupt change of a three-story and a four-story and a one-story building.

598
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:33,940
It transitions very importantly.

599
00:50:34,180 --> 00:50:43,380
I just wanted to make clear that this is not set in stone a project that all has to be proposed to the Council of Planning Commission, and it would go through a series of projects.

600
00:50:43,720 --> 00:50:47,280
Absolutely. And one other key point here again. Read of element has gone.

601
00:50:47,280 --> 00:51:06,740
So again, this all this does is create the, if you will, a permissive series of designations that the change for any change to occur, it comes at the initiation, not of the city, but it comes at the initiation of the property owner with a developer in hand.

602
00:51:06,740 --> 00:51:13,180
Well another key point to keep in mind also is that when these projects come forward, traffic,

603
00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:18,500
greenhouse gas, all that stuff has to be mitigated through the process.

604
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:23,240
Yeah, and quickly in that respect, as we do have an environmental impact report on the

605
00:51:23,240 --> 00:51:27,320
totality of the plan, but you might consider that to be a 10,000 foot elevation.

606
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:33,760
It's a citywide level doesn't get down to corner intersections, signalization, turning movements,

607
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:37,520
and intersection, that would all come at that stage, indeed, of analysis.

608
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:40,220
We're near Boulevard.

609
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:47,760
We'll move on to pushing the one-run button here, Beach Boulevard, and again, we described

610
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:53,600
the recommendation for a node here at a prettier Boulevard.

611
00:51:54,380 --> 00:52:01,860
There is also, again, the opportunity for one of the sites at Lambert for some intensification

612
00:52:01,860 --> 00:52:04,380
of that intersection and mixed use of that intersection.

613
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:11,040
And then the one parcel that was discussed fairly lengthily with the committee is this is

614
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:16,440
the bond site at Imperial Highway, Commercial, which we'll talk about later, but just north

615
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:22,980
of the bond sites, there was a large parcel that historically had been designated as commercial.

616
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:30,020
The property owner has expressed some interest in possibility of a residential designation

617
00:52:30,020 --> 00:52:35,140
with it within that area. So the committee looked at changing a category there to a mixed

618
00:52:35,140 --> 00:52:40,140
use, which would permit housing so described or commercial. And that again would be subject

619
00:52:40,140 --> 00:52:43,880
to again the further review and discussion to the commission to the council at that point.

620
00:52:44,060 --> 00:52:49,660
And that property in question, where is where the old Samsung church used to be, right? And

621
00:52:49,660 --> 00:52:54,280
so it's a vacant now except for the hotel. It's not in service right now.

622
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:59,100
Yes, and again, I think one of the things I would like to emphasize that when we

623
00:52:59,100 --> 00:53:04,220
identify these nodes, again, if you look at them today, a lot of them are large surface

624
00:53:04,220 --> 00:53:10,660
parking lots, and with underutilized buildings in them, they were very carefully examined

625
00:53:10,660 --> 00:53:15,520
as a part of the process, to see truly where the opportunities rather than trying to

626
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:20,000
indeed overlay something, as a use that's going to be there for an extremely long period of time,

627
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:24,700
has a lot of economic value here today as well.

628
00:53:25,420 --> 00:53:29,600
So moving on to Imperial Highway, as I just mentioned,

629
00:53:30,020 --> 00:53:33,040
and this is basically, you'll see in the commercial areas,

630
00:53:33,500 --> 00:53:36,280
which you have fairly substantial commercial concentration,

631
00:53:37,120 --> 00:53:40,940
and then a smaller area over by the Walmart

632
00:53:40,940 --> 00:53:44,780
on the east side of Imperial Highway.

633
00:53:45,260 --> 00:53:47,920
These are areas that we actually increase

634
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:54,020
your permissible flow area ratio or development capacity for the purposes of fostering higher

635
00:53:54,020 --> 00:53:58,760
economic activity. And it doesn't mean those uses would change out, but it really means

636
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:03,620
it's on those surface parking lots that you might add additional pads for additional retail

637
00:54:03,620 --> 00:54:08,980
or other supporting kinds of commercial uses within the area. I will note, can you have had

638
00:54:08,980 --> 00:54:16,380
a written communication on this, this area that looks like cut out on the south west corner of

639
00:54:16,380 --> 00:54:20,340
and Imperial Highway was frankly an oversight.

640
00:54:20,540 --> 00:54:28,100
You had a letter from a individual in respect to requesting a change of use to the density

641
00:54:28,100 --> 00:54:30,360
that would be permitted on the joining property.

642
00:54:30,980 --> 00:54:32,260
It's now designated commercial.

643
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:34,740
It was left at the current FAR.

644
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:40,260
The request was to up the FAR comparable to the FAR that was being proposed for that site.

645
00:54:40,260 --> 00:54:49,080
And staff believes that that makes a reasonable sense, and it was not purposely left out from that standpoint as well.

646
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:54,040
Excuse me, Mr. Mayor. This was one area I didn't want to bring up.

647
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:59,540
We might have speakers to some of this area, but

648
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:10,340
On the north side of Imperial, I took a call today expressing concern about this property on the north side of Imperial, just to the west of Euclid.

649
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:16,400
Would we want to talk about that during when he's finished, Tom, or, see what I'm going to do.

650
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:20,880
We'll wait till the presentation is done.

651
00:55:21,700 --> 00:55:26,960
Okay. A couple and actually, council member Shaw, a couple of other changes that I should mention here.

652
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:34,720
This is the area that historically has been designated industrial and commercial industrial and I'll come back to that in a little a little bit later

653
00:55:34,720 --> 00:55:42,320
But again, the changes in this area is this is an area in the darker blue than currently is designated as

654
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:45,640
Commercial only commercial does not allow industrial uses today

655
00:55:46,620 --> 00:55:51,400
Between here this is the railroad track and this is cypress so this area between the two

656
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:58,140
The designation is recommended to be changed to a commercial industrial to enable, again,

657
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:02,980
the commercial uses are allowed today, but also the opportunity for any of the expansions

658
00:56:02,980 --> 00:56:07,200
of, indeed, commercial properties that are to the north as a site into the frontage

659
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,360
along Imperial Highway.

660
00:56:09,700 --> 00:56:14,320
So you can, the ability to create larger parcels of some scale that would accommodate

661
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,120
jobs-generating kinds of uses.

662
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:22,060
And the other change in this area is West of Euclid on the north side of the street.

663
00:56:22,860 --> 00:56:32,100
This is an area today that is designated for, I believe, commercial uses here today.

664
00:56:32,580 --> 00:56:34,720
It is a budget on the south by single family.

665
00:56:34,980 --> 00:56:37,100
Is it a budget on the north by single family?

666
00:56:37,260 --> 00:56:40,940
So it's like a slot in between the single family areas.

667
00:56:40,940 --> 00:56:46,540
And the committee looked at a modification of the use to a multi-family density

668
00:56:46,540 --> 00:56:51,680
designation comparable to the multi-family units that have been built and have been constructed

669
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:56,180
to the west in this particular area, at the same density of those so it would be comparable

670
00:56:56,180 --> 00:57:01,640
and mimic indeed those kinds of uses within the area.

671
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:04,840
Before you leave that page, on second.

672
00:57:05,180 --> 00:57:05,260
Got it.

673
00:57:05,260 --> 00:57:11,260
I don't we have can address his comments or questions that way staff can be prepared because I

674
00:57:11,260 --> 00:57:14,760
seem there may be some in the audience that would like to come up during public comments

675
00:57:14,760 --> 00:57:17,960
and talk about it, so we'll be prepared that way.

676
00:57:18,940 --> 00:57:24,860
The call I received indicated that the business owners to the north side of Imperial there

677
00:57:25,820 --> 00:57:33,220
were concerned about the prospect of being, I mean they would be legal, not conforming

678
00:57:33,220 --> 00:57:40,020
under this change, so they were concerned about future or ability to expand the business

679
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:47,900
or, you know, and just the details that come along with being legal, not conforming and what

680
00:57:47,900 --> 00:57:54,000
that meant for them long-term in their future. So they seem, you know, to be valid concerns.

681
00:57:54,360 --> 00:58:00,460
So I just was going to bring that up and I didn't know what the discussion was at the committee,

682
00:58:00,980 --> 00:58:03,680
but just perhaps just putting it out there,

683
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:07,200
having a mixed-used designation as opposed

684
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,520
to just the residential,

685
00:58:10,140 --> 00:58:11,700
is something I thought maybe we could talk about,

686
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:17,860
but, okay, my staff, why don't you just,

687
00:58:17,860 --> 00:58:19,100
you're not to get up.

688
00:58:19,100 --> 00:58:20,960
Just make a point of what Tim brought up,

689
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:23,020
because we'll talk about this when we're done.

690
00:58:23,220 --> 00:58:24,560
It'll come back to this anyway.

691
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:28,800
Well, I can only speculate who these business owners are.

692
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:35,980
However, I do believe the land use designation is a mixed use.

693
00:58:36,100 --> 00:58:38,960
Designation or is it a, it's about a family risk?

694
00:58:38,980 --> 00:58:40,480
It is a straight residential.

695
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:45,380
So yes, in this case, if the action were to go forward tonight,

696
00:58:46,220 --> 00:58:49,920
and this area was to redesign it residential,

697
00:58:51,580 --> 00:58:55,080
that these uses would be considered non-conforming uses,

698
00:58:55,260 --> 00:58:56,960
but I'll go back to my previous comments.

699
00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:00,220
that doesn't mean that they need to see

700
00:59:00,220 --> 00:59:03,400
so operations they can continue to operate lawfully

701
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:04,960
as long as they want to.

702
00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:06,860
And that's in our codes today.

703
00:59:07,220 --> 00:59:08,000
And they expand.

704
00:59:08,620 --> 00:59:09,800
They cannot expand.

705
00:59:10,260 --> 00:59:10,640
Cannot.

706
00:59:10,820 --> 00:59:12,060
Cannot expand.

707
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:13,320
They can.

708
00:59:13,900 --> 00:59:17,300
And even if their business was destroyed,

709
00:59:18,220 --> 00:59:20,500
if it's more than 50% of the valuation

710
00:59:20,500 --> 00:59:22,440
as it's earned by an appraisal,

711
00:59:22,740 --> 00:59:23,800
they cannot rebuild.

712
00:59:29,050 --> 00:59:31,490
clarification, it's devastating industrial today.

713
00:59:31,830 --> 00:59:32,310
I said commissioner.

714
00:59:36,650 --> 00:59:39,910
Well, look, I mean, should we talk about it later than when you said that?

715
00:59:39,910 --> 00:59:42,730
I think we can do that when we get to the public hearing.

716
00:59:43,150 --> 00:59:44,230
We'll probably come up again.

717
00:59:44,690 --> 00:59:45,550
That way is to everybody.

718
00:59:45,890 --> 00:59:47,630
We set the foundation for that discussion.

719
00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:51,400
Harbour Boulevard.

720
00:59:52,220 --> 00:59:54,860
We've talked earlier about the Twitter.

721
00:59:56,180 --> 00:59:59,960
And there's a note again, a higher intensity at LaHabra where we've got some bass.

722
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:06,660
We can parcel there today, significance, as scale, as well. The other changes in this area, again, are

723
01:00:06,660 --> 01:00:10,360
the blue, which I did to talk about extensively before, are there than the frontage and

724
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:17,220
long imperial. Again, this is an area where your current FAR, based upon a conversation staff

725
01:00:17,220 --> 01:00:21,980
has had with development applicants in the past, where you're limited in terms of the potential

726
01:00:21,980 --> 01:00:26,680
development scale that could occur in the area. So again, the recommendation was to increase

727
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:32,940
for allowable for air ratio and provide opportunities for new jobs being developed within

728
01:00:32,940 --> 01:00:42,000
that area as well. We did have a letter from Richard and Betty Rutter. I believe it's the

729
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:47,380
pronunciation of the name about a traffic signal as I indicated earlier to the mayor. That is

730
01:00:47,380 --> 01:00:53,260
a detail that would be dependent upon specific study at a particular future point in time and

731
01:00:53,260 --> 01:00:57,600
is beyond the scale of a general plan here as well.

732
01:00:58,660 --> 01:01:02,680
The Hover Boulevard, a lot of land uses obviously along the Hover.

733
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:08,720
The real core of this is the whole fundamental notion to make a real damn town, the term

734
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:13,900
that was used, the real center part of the city, building upon where we are here today,

735
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:20,360
building upon the very pedestrian orientation of uses that are on the south side of the street

736
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:23,580
right now, the buildings come up to the street there today.

737
01:01:24,140 --> 01:01:29,100
And what is different about this area from the specific plan is, again, that dimension

738
01:01:29,100 --> 01:01:32,000
of allowing housing within the area.

739
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:35,740
Your current specific plan limits particularly in the core area.

740
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:42,840
Your uses to commercial or office this plan creates a central district misuse category

741
01:01:42,840 --> 01:01:47,880
that would allow housing to be built, particularly on top of the lower level ground level

742
01:01:47,880 --> 01:01:52,120
retail to increase the customer base, the pedestrian activity within the area.

743
01:01:52,820 --> 01:01:56,660
It also, you have real here, adjacent to the railroad track.

744
01:01:57,220 --> 01:02:04,020
So it basically also increases residential densities between first and second here to

745
01:02:04,020 --> 01:02:08,620
a higher density residential, again with a notion of putting more people in the core of

746
01:02:08,620 --> 01:02:14,300
the downtown area, and then would convert the properties on the south side of second between

747
01:02:14,300 --> 01:02:21,160
and real and second, and indeed for residential, that is a current industrial designation.

748
01:02:21,380 --> 01:02:23,180
The notion was to flesh that out.

749
01:02:23,540 --> 01:02:29,240
See, would have a continuous large area of mixed use and housing within the area.

750
01:02:29,700 --> 01:02:36,060
I believe the gentleman that approached earlier was discussing this segment along the railroad area.

751
01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:41,120
This is an area that the committee looked at, and at the request of the property owner that suggested

752
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:49,160
changing that to a multifamily use within that area as well. The other areas on

753
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:53,500
shown on the map and purple are again that mixed use designation, commercial or

754
01:02:53,500 --> 01:02:58,920
residential within the area and then the yellow area where the areas, Mr. Hack

755
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:04,040
mentioned earlier, the areas that today have that R2 designation, the

756
01:03:04,040 --> 01:03:08,980
primarily single-family detached units and indeed the concern was whether those

757
01:03:08,980 --> 01:03:14,020
be converted to apartments into the current designation so the recommendation was to reduce

758
01:03:14,020 --> 01:03:16,760
the category and the designation within that area.

759
01:03:17,420 --> 01:03:21,880
It still allows under state law a second unit to be built because you have state legislation

760
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:26,500
that allows a second unit to be built on the property but what would preclude our apartments

761
01:03:26,500 --> 01:03:28,840
that would be the significance of that change.

762
01:03:29,140 --> 01:03:35,120
Yes, that would be appropriate to discuss like in this area since you wanted to create

763
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:40,760
more mixed to use in pedestrian friendly area talking about like crosswalks and

764
01:03:40,760 --> 01:03:45,420
wider sidewalks would be when you actually go into the projects and start to

765
01:03:45,420 --> 01:03:49,740
Yes, we have when we get to the policies we have policies for the central district

766
01:03:49,740 --> 01:03:54,400
to call out that I'll refer to very quickly later in the presentation but there are

767
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:59,880
policies there the talk about the design the pedestrian orientation streetscape improvements

768
01:03:59,880 --> 01:04:04,100
are ending to the street those are in the policy section of this plan that I'll refer to

769
01:04:04,100 --> 01:04:07,900
Thank you.

770
01:04:07,900 --> 01:04:09,880
See if I have anything else on.

771
01:04:09,980 --> 01:04:19,700
We had a property a request for a piece of property over here to change the designation

772
01:04:19,700 --> 01:04:21,080
and I may be wrong.

773
01:04:21,580 --> 01:04:23,040
It's 1700 West La Habra.

774
01:04:23,660 --> 01:04:28,040
It is a piece of property adjacent to a multi-family project.

775
01:04:28,260 --> 01:04:33,240
It's currently designated for a professional office.

776
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:38,280
It's been redesigned in this plan to create continuity along the entirety of the block for multi-family

777
01:04:38,280 --> 01:04:45,320
since it's used to this adjacent to it, and there had been a request with some comments and concerns

778
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:50,260
expressed in that letter about changing of land value.

779
01:04:50,420 --> 01:04:58,180
Again, as we commented earlier, today's market housing would have a much higher land value than a professional office categories,

780
01:04:58,180 --> 01:04:59,680
especially and isolated.

781
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:11,780
On that side for office use, there was concern about traffic, just indicate that the traffic associated with the residential is less on that site than would be a tribute of a professional office, the trip generation factors.

782
01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:26,820
And thirdly, there was some concern about multi-family equal crime, and I don't believe there's any empirical evidence to make that correlation as well. So the staff recommends the residential designation and lieu of that professional office.

783
01:05:26,820 --> 01:05:29,960
On that piece of property, if I can think about it,

784
01:05:30,100 --> 01:05:31,700
that used to be the old AAA building.

785
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:33,660
So there's a child care center in there.

786
01:05:33,780 --> 01:05:36,960
So you have houses on the east side.

787
01:05:37,040 --> 01:05:39,100
You have houses to the south.

788
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:43,040
I think there's apartments in a senior building to the west.

789
01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:46,040
So with regards to traffic and all that,

790
01:05:46,620 --> 01:05:48,600
that business would be not conforming.

791
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:49,540
So you can continue.

792
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:53,700
Hey, or should you continue running it as a child care

793
01:05:53,700 --> 01:05:55,900
for however long they want?

794
01:05:55,900 --> 01:06:05,660
They could sell it as a child care and keep it going as a child care, so the only time traffic would enter into it is if they the owner decided to put in the residential units.

795
01:06:06,380 --> 01:06:09,440
And that would be mitigated at the time of the project proposed.

796
01:06:09,740 --> 01:06:13,760
And again, the request in the letter was to retain the professional office.

797
01:06:13,920 --> 01:06:19,040
So if they remove the daycare and replace it with the professional office,

798
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:24,740
the trips associated with the professional office would be considerably greater than it did from the residential designation.

799
01:06:24,740 --> 01:06:27,720
Because traffic comes and goes all day long.

800
01:06:28,040 --> 01:06:30,980
Yeah, and the PM, it's AM and PM, peak trips.

801
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:33,900
Yeah, that's significant difference as well.

802
01:06:37,050 --> 01:06:37,570
Okay, numbers.

803
01:06:38,710 --> 01:06:42,930
These charts basically then go back to the 2020 plan,

804
01:06:42,930 --> 01:06:49,870
existing 2020 plan and our 2035 plan to show you what it means in terms of

805
01:06:49,870 --> 01:06:50,890
development capacities.

806
01:06:51,510 --> 01:06:55,270
Here we are today, or a couple of years ago when the data was pulled together,

807
01:06:55,270 --> 01:07:02,050
There is an increase obviously in housing units and I'm going to come in by populations of looks less in a moment

808
01:07:02,050 --> 01:07:08,810
There's an increase in housing units again remind you 20 20 25. We have a 15-year different show

809
01:07:08,810 --> 01:07:14,910
So implicitly you're comparing apples and oranges in terms of years and the number should it match bottom line

810
01:07:14,910 --> 01:07:22,370
Why does the population go down the population goes down even though we have more residential units in that you have

811
01:07:22,370 --> 01:07:30,530
multi-family residential units, which have a lower occupancy numbers of people per bedroom and

812
01:07:30,530 --> 01:07:34,810
numbers of people per unit that have been projected for the 2020 General Plan.

813
01:07:35,450 --> 01:07:39,590
You still have an increase above where you are today, obviously, but again, just to remind

814
01:07:39,590 --> 01:07:45,850
us, it's less than what you would have under the lower densities because in higher density

815
01:07:45,850 --> 01:07:52,010
projects, all of our economic data says that occupancy is less per unit than it would be for

816
01:07:52,010 --> 01:07:53,430
the others as well.

817
01:07:53,470 --> 01:07:56,570
Similarly, we have a chart here to that basically.

818
01:07:56,570 --> 01:07:58,290
Or the change would it go to go to that?

819
01:07:59,330 --> 01:08:01,190
I can't read that green there.

820
01:08:01,390 --> 01:08:03,750
So what's the population in 2035?

821
01:08:03,850 --> 01:08:08,290
The population today is about 19,000.

822
01:08:08,350 --> 01:08:10,730
The population under 20,000.

823
01:08:10,730 --> 01:08:13,450
That's housing, what the on the population is?

824
01:08:13,450 --> 01:08:14,550
I can't read it either.

825
01:08:14,970 --> 01:08:16,070
Thank you.

826
01:08:16,070 --> 01:08:26,150
the population was about 61,000 under the 2020 plan, we're about 68, and we're about 75 under

827
01:08:26,150 --> 01:08:30,030
the 20, 35 plan. The difference in the bars are theoretical capacities.

828
01:08:30,950 --> 01:08:35,950
In all your mathematical modeling, is there a

829
01:08:39,310 --> 01:08:42,610
population level that's best for Lahawa, meaning

830
01:08:42,610 --> 01:08:47,590
and a lot of this would be perception, because population gets traffic and congestion, et cetera.

831
01:08:47,590 --> 01:08:53,990
But I would think, any city at some point, there's a number that you say we're overpopulated.

832
01:08:54,530 --> 01:08:55,670
Where is there such a number?

833
01:08:57,470 --> 01:09:03,710
I would say it would be hard to land on that number because it depends on the criteria you have.

834
01:09:04,370 --> 01:09:08,230
What we're finding in cities that have gone to a mixed use designation.

835
01:09:09,270 --> 01:09:12,590
And this is a very different city, but I just want to use it as a comparison.

836
01:09:12,870 --> 01:09:14,110
And I'm not going to use New York.

837
01:09:14,110 --> 01:09:15,330
We're going to use a Pasadena.

838
01:09:15,710 --> 01:09:17,530
You can use New York, my daughter-in-law.

839
01:09:18,290 --> 01:09:19,230
I'm not going to use New York.

840
01:09:19,410 --> 01:09:21,350
I'm going to use Pasadena, as an example.

841
01:09:21,510 --> 01:09:23,090
But again, it's a very different city.

842
01:09:23,650 --> 01:09:27,570
And why I'm using this Pasadena has had over the last decade

843
01:09:27,570 --> 01:09:29,610
a fair amount of mixed use development

844
01:09:29,610 --> 01:09:30,910
in the downtown area.

845
01:09:31,570 --> 01:09:34,510
There is now empirical evidence that they

846
01:09:34,510 --> 01:09:37,070
have run through surveys and traffic counts, et cetera,

847
01:09:37,590 --> 01:09:40,430
that the per capita trip generation

848
01:09:40,430 --> 01:09:48,530
has been reduced by 36 percent, then it would have been before. Why? Because what they've

849
01:09:48,530 --> 01:09:52,670
done through the mixes of uses and locating is not just the transit. It's the fact

850
01:09:52,670 --> 01:09:58,150
that they've located housing close to where your grocery stores are. You have out, you've

851
01:09:58,150 --> 01:09:59,970
created a mix of uses where you don't have

852
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:07,460
We have to drive us far to get in your car for your coffee, to go to school, to get to your job, and it's

853
01:10:07,460 --> 01:10:15,080
that mix of uses. So we used to use trip caps, say that an ideal city is based upon the trips

854
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:20,720
that are generated. But as the analysis shows us in our environmental document, much of

855
01:10:20,720 --> 01:10:25,720
the traffic impacts that are going to occur in Lahabra are due to the through trips, through

856
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:28,940
what's happening in the region rather than what you're actually generating yourself.

857
01:10:28,940 --> 01:10:35,440
So, tripcap probably isn't the metrics anymore, so it's a really the question about community,

858
01:10:35,660 --> 01:10:39,700
character, and quality, and I think we hear very clearly that the city said they don't

859
01:10:39,700 --> 01:10:44,920
see themselves, every is a 20 story, 30 story environment, but two or three stories, that

860
01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:48,940
seat with discussions with the committee, that seemed to need me something that was palatable.

861
01:10:50,620 --> 01:10:52,060
And these numbers are within those ranges.

862
01:10:53,100 --> 01:10:58,900
So, for future projects, future councils, they can really look at the quality, the project,

863
01:10:58,900 --> 01:11:05,700
and against the densities, and if you have a higher density ratio, you can really adjust that

864
01:11:05,700 --> 01:11:11,260
based on the developer and the project they want to put in there. If it's based for 50,

865
01:11:11,920 --> 01:11:18,540
but you can have discussions, well maybe it should be 35 and or, and of course, some of this

866
01:11:18,540 --> 01:11:26,060
one on two, or I've seen some 50 unit of facilities that are really, you wouldn't guess they were

867
01:11:26,060 --> 01:11:31,180
that they are that dance design I come from if you don't know I come from an architectural

868
01:11:31,180 --> 01:11:37,020
training and I truly believe the power of design. Your members of your committee and members

869
01:11:37,020 --> 01:11:41,940
of your commission with staff took a field survey a few weeks ago and saw some examples

870
01:11:41,940 --> 01:11:47,860
of really good and well design buildings in Orange County and they pointed to them and said

871
01:11:47,860 --> 01:11:53,240
if we get something like that yeah that may make sense you can really create some very poor

872
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:57,460
architecture and really create negative impacts upon the community.

873
01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:01,820
So ultimately, as you make judgments in the future, your commission and you make judgments

874
01:12:01,820 --> 01:12:07,080
in the future, I urge you to think very carefully about the quality of design because it really

875
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:09,640
affects the quality of the end-of-value, ultimately, of development.

876
01:12:12,470 --> 01:12:17,110
So similarly, charts on commercial and industrial square feet and numbers of employees.

877
01:12:17,670 --> 01:12:21,650
And here's where you see bigger jumps in the numbers than we had on the housing.

878
01:12:21,650 --> 01:12:27,430
Why is that remember the basic premise that I mentioned earlier about the fact that the

879
01:12:27,430 --> 01:12:32,730
densities for some of the commercial and industrial areas are bumped up to indeed create

880
01:12:32,730 --> 01:12:36,730
economic opportunity for those jobs generating uses as well?

881
01:12:37,030 --> 01:12:41,230
So you see the comparisons here on on these charts.

882
01:12:42,630 --> 01:12:45,830
Okay, beginning then beyond the map.

883
01:12:45,830 --> 01:12:54,270
Again, we have pages, just addressing the goals, the written policies, and support, back

884
01:12:54,270 --> 01:12:59,750
to Councilmember Goldman's question about the central district and the policies about

885
01:12:59,750 --> 01:13:00,530
pedestrianism.

886
01:13:00,850 --> 01:13:03,990
This is where those policies lie in this section of the plan.

887
01:13:04,490 --> 01:13:06,170
I'm not going to go through these in detail.

888
01:13:06,430 --> 01:13:11,050
These are just bulletin topics of some of the areas that are considered the first section

889
01:13:11,050 --> 01:13:15,810
of the goals and policies in land use address what our citywide goals and policies for

890
01:13:15,810 --> 01:13:20,930
land use. So basically what that means is they apply regardless of location or regardless of

891
01:13:20,930 --> 01:13:26,550
use. They're overarching policies about the community in terms of the form, the quality,

892
01:13:26,810 --> 01:13:31,490
we talk just well now about well-designed buildings, about sustainable development practices,

893
01:13:31,910 --> 01:13:37,350
about such ideas as an equitable distribution of uses, so that there's no overloading of the

894
01:13:37,350 --> 01:13:41,350
bad things you have to have in a community in areas in the city, but there is indeed an equitable

895
01:13:41,350 --> 01:13:45,850
distribution of the good things like parks and schools and the other amenities that support

896
01:13:45,850 --> 01:13:47,710
the population as well.

897
01:13:48,010 --> 01:13:54,570
This section also sets development capacities for this plan, which is of a total of about

898
01:13:54,570 --> 01:13:58,950
a 4200 additional residential units and about 4.1 million square feet.

899
01:13:59,310 --> 01:14:03,830
What that says is over the life of this plan, those are your limits, but again, as you had

900
01:14:03,830 --> 01:14:08,790
discussion earlier with Mr. Hack, you have the opportunity to revisit this on a periodic

901
01:14:08,790 --> 01:14:12,870
basis well before you get to 2035 and take a look at the reasonable

902
01:14:12,870 --> 01:14:16,830
bonus of those numbers and whether indeed it makes sense to begin to adjust

903
01:14:16,830 --> 01:14:23,050
those over a period of times. The second major section then focus upon

904
01:14:23,050 --> 01:14:27,350
the policies for what are the places within the community.

905
01:14:27,750 --> 01:14:31,210
The neighborhoods of residential neighborhoods and as I said earlier we're not talking

906
01:14:31,210 --> 01:14:36,610
about change but we are talking about an aging housing stock so the policies focus

907
01:14:36,610 --> 01:14:43,270
on maintaining and make sure that as we go 10 years, 20 years down the line, that that housing

908
01:14:43,270 --> 01:14:49,090
stock is maintained as well, talks about the diversity of the various commercial districts

909
01:14:49,090 --> 01:14:57,710
and the various indeed districts within the community, and these are on page 213 through 236

910
01:14:57,710 --> 01:14:59,890
of your plan document as well.

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01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:08,600
This is also in here where there are the policies about the downtown and the core and the importance of this pedestrian-oriented place and downtown Lahabra.

912
01:15:09,300 --> 01:15:15,240
Then the other key relationship to this, I'm going to ask Alonso to come to understanding the economic realities alongside.

913
01:15:19,420 --> 01:15:20,660
Yeah, that goes forward.

914
01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:21,320
Okay.

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01:15:23,950 --> 01:15:31,490
Thank you. Mayor, members of the Council, my name is Alonso Padre, and it starts to the economic development component, which is the chapter two in the general plan.

916
01:15:31,490 --> 01:15:38,190
And since most people just two-not-one to hear the word economic behavior concept that would

917
01:15:38,190 --> 01:15:45,710
I use in terms of what we see as an all-state objective of the economic development component

918
01:15:45,710 --> 01:15:46,630
in the general plan.

919
01:15:46,630 --> 01:15:52,030
We need to gather independent, but interconnected objectives, okay?

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01:15:52,350 --> 01:15:56,550
And by that, what I mean, an example on the bottom, we'll talk about this workforce engagement

921
01:15:56,550 --> 01:15:58,610
and what objectives we're dealing with.

922
01:15:58,610 --> 01:16:02,570
And from a business standpoint, most business operators want to be able to hire people

923
01:16:02,570 --> 01:16:05,010
if they want to readily available, supply a skill labor.

924
01:16:05,870 --> 01:16:10,310
On the lifestyle side, the individual household member wants to be employed.

925
01:16:10,330 --> 01:16:14,610
They want to totally independent objectives, but they're interconnected and the economic

926
01:16:14,610 --> 01:16:19,710
development seeks to bring that connection together as in the goals that relates to the work

927
01:16:19,710 --> 01:16:20,450
desengagement.

928
01:16:20,670 --> 01:16:25,950
The broader goal is to have a ready supply of qualified workers available for the skills

929
01:16:25,950 --> 01:16:29,790
that are demanding, and we've got to do that.

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01:16:30,250 --> 01:16:32,710
It's the residents with a marketable workforce,

931
01:16:33,110 --> 01:16:36,010
jobs, skills, training, as every basic skills

932
01:16:36,010 --> 01:16:37,250
development for adults.

933
01:16:37,970 --> 01:16:39,070
So that's the whole development.

934
01:16:39,170 --> 01:16:43,250
Bring all these diverse objectives for economic achievement,

935
01:16:43,850 --> 01:16:46,050
bid on the individual level, the householder level,

936
01:16:46,230 --> 01:16:49,090
the business owner, the investor, even the city

937
01:16:49,090 --> 01:16:51,290
governance, and its fiscal necessities

938
01:16:51,290 --> 01:16:52,990
of providing services in the community.

939
01:16:53,390 --> 01:16:54,850
So that's what that's a check to do.

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01:16:54,850 --> 01:17:00,010
So the economic development component, the general plan has divided into five areas, and it has

941
01:17:00,010 --> 01:17:04,550
to deal with the business environment, workforce engagement, real estate investment,

942
01:17:05,170 --> 01:17:07,690
lifestyle enrichment, and physical sustainability.

943
01:17:09,170 --> 01:17:11,310
And I'll just briefly go through these.

944
01:17:11,870 --> 01:17:14,990
Like I said, there's much more detail on the general plan regarding that, but this business

945
01:17:14,990 --> 01:17:19,970
environment, two main goals related to that is a diverseification of business within the community.

946
01:17:19,970 --> 01:17:25,590
not only able to withstand economic cycles, but also to provide residents with a diversity

947
01:17:25,590 --> 01:17:30,890
to purchase opportunities and job opportunities, and also a robust program, and that gets

948
01:17:30,890 --> 01:17:31,830
into the job plan.

949
01:17:32,030 --> 01:17:37,790
I said what exactly is a robust program to assist the track, but in a notion is to what that

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01:17:37,790 --> 01:17:38,070
is.

951
01:17:38,210 --> 01:17:43,430
We're talking about attracting, retaining, and assisting businesses, so it's multi-faceted,

952
01:17:43,870 --> 01:17:44,970
and then the workforce engagement.

953
01:17:45,150 --> 01:17:49,510
We're talking about training and hiring programs for improved jobs skills, and also

954
01:17:49,510 --> 01:17:54,670
expanding the basic planning through target industries and in that we're talking about matching

955
01:17:54,670 --> 01:17:59,170
industries that matched well with the skill-based in the community, which the State's

956
01:17:59,170 --> 01:18:05,570
is showing has increased quite significantly over the last 15-20 years. Then the next one

957
01:18:05,570 --> 01:18:20,340
regards to, sorry about that, is the real estate investment? And basically what is, what is,

958
01:18:20,340 --> 01:18:25,320
development is tied to the use of property, and property is a very finite resource within

959
01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:25,960
the community.

960
01:18:26,900 --> 01:18:33,520
So your economic growth is linked to how you utilize the finite property resource that defines

961
01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:37,720
the Habra, and then also the provided incentives.

962
01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:43,380
And here we're not just talking about economic incentives, which may have been available under

963
01:18:43,380 --> 01:18:48,800
the old days of redevelopment that there's no longer available as we've known it, come

964
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:49,500
to know it.

965
01:18:50,220 --> 01:18:55,760
But there's also incentives as relates to the process of securing entitlement, review, work

966
01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:57,220
and get to comply with regulations.

967
01:18:58,280 --> 01:19:06,320
And a lot of that means a quick approval process, because basically what I call that

968
01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:11,920
the head waters of this value attitude, time delays cost money can actually jeopardize the

969
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:14,140
project by getting these delays in regulation.

970
01:19:14,140 --> 01:19:19,580
then lifestyle arrangement, which I was going to tell you, what are you talking about that touchy

971
01:19:19,580 --> 01:19:19,900
feeling.

972
01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:25,900
But I think one thing that event has pretty come through, that's the health care law that

973
01:19:25,900 --> 01:19:31,980
has come through is really underscored the hidden cost of lack of health in our system.

974
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:07,380
So they said it's at the individual household level, and it hits at the business level through business productivity losses.

975
01:20:08,020 --> 01:20:17,880
And also the objectives that are lined out in the general plan is to instill lifestyle behavior that leads to a healthier citizen base.

976
01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:23,000
Leaves, altitudes of proven in children, higher test scores, higher educational attainment.

977
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:25,380
So those are part of the goes that are within that.

978
01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:28,860
And so while someone might try and box that in is a touch and

979
01:20:28,860 --> 01:20:32,400
feeding thing, there is some real economic benefit to be achieved by

980
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:35,520
obtaining a lifestyle enrichment, the health of your lifestyles within

981
01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:37,660
the community, so that's why it's concluded is one of the

982
01:20:37,660 --> 01:20:38,680
economic development components.

983
01:20:39,380 --> 01:20:43,020
And lastly, of course, fiscal sustainability, which I'm sure you

984
01:20:43,020 --> 01:20:47,680
all had to deal with over the last few years, as the cities had

985
01:20:47,680 --> 01:20:56,880
grapple with strained revenue sources and insecurity and basically how you say crisis at the state

986
01:20:56,880 --> 01:21:02,440
legislative level and its impacts at the local level and so one of those goals to advocate

987
01:21:02,440 --> 01:21:10,000
for legislation to secure more sustain is also to engage and balance budget practices

988
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:14,400
which are looking at the city practices over the last year has been very effective and

989
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:19,920
hard decisions have had to be made and sacrifices have had to be made at all levels to in order

990
01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:24,840
to be prudent and the use of the limited funding resources, but that again is underscored

991
01:21:24,840 --> 01:21:26,560
as another policy to move forward.

992
01:21:31,540 --> 01:21:32,420
Thank you.

993
01:21:32,900 --> 01:21:37,920
I'm going to go through some sections fairly quickly, especially this one, because Tracy is

994
01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:41,840
going to review this a little bit later, but we have incorporated within the body of the

995
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:45,460
general plan, and the goals and policies from the housing element.

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01:21:45,560 --> 01:21:47,900
Tracy will talk about the full housing element a little bit later.

997
01:21:47,900 --> 01:21:50,760
So I'm going to basically skip that section right now.

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01:21:51,580 --> 01:21:54,860
This is a city rich with history.

999
01:21:55,740 --> 01:21:57,980
And indeed, there are policies in this plan

1000
01:21:57,980 --> 01:22:01,920
about the protection for those historical and cultural elements

1001
01:22:01,920 --> 01:22:06,420
that identify this city and provide identity to this city,

1002
01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:11,140
as well as policies focusing on how one communicates the presence

1003
01:22:11,140 --> 01:22:13,900
of those resources to the children in this community

1004
01:22:13,900 --> 01:22:17,060
and the messages to people who live outside of the community

1005
01:22:17,060 --> 01:22:23,400
about those historic and cultural parts that comprise the city of Lahabra as well.

1006
01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:31,900
Very importantly, also there are policies about community identity on pages 251 to 256,

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01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:38,040
and as we define identity, there are two really contributing elements. There are the physical

1008
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:45,800
elements that provide identity such as the places or entry signage or other kind of iconic things

1009
01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:50,800
visually evident to someone who comes into to the city and then equally important about

1010
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:56,240
the identity of this city. Something that I noticed very clearly on your city's seal right here

1011
01:22:56,240 --> 01:23:01,700
on the lectern is something that says, our caring community. And indeed the reputation of

1012
01:23:01,700 --> 01:23:07,360
Lahabra as a place that where people care about each other, the programs, the services, etc.

1013
01:23:07,980 --> 01:23:13,400
And indeed that is reflection in terms of building upon those policies for the future of the city as

1014
01:23:14,460 --> 01:23:22,920
in this plan. There is a section called the growth management element. And if you look at

1015
01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:27,900
your existing plan, you're going to see a lot of policies in that section, a lot of text.

1016
01:23:28,300 --> 01:23:33,460
You're not going to see a lot of text in this growth management element. Why? Because when

1017
01:23:33,460 --> 01:23:39,940
you read the policies in the 2020 element, they're identical to policies in the circulation

1018
01:23:39,940 --> 01:23:44,220
and policies in the land use element and other elements of the general plan.

1019
01:23:45,140 --> 01:23:49,960
This element has been prepared previously and is updated here to comply with Orange

1020
01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:56,420
Counter-Emeasures M and M renewed, which is a source of potential transportation funds for

1021
01:23:56,420 --> 01:23:58,040
the city of Lohabro.

1022
01:23:58,700 --> 01:24:05,600
And in that document and the requirements to have a growth management element from the county,

1023
01:24:05,600 --> 01:24:12,880
There are five basic topics that they require to be addressed, facing community development,

1024
01:24:13,480 --> 01:24:16,740
traffic, traffic, a couple of times in public facilities plans, and what you're going

1025
01:24:16,740 --> 01:24:21,340
to see in your document here is it's like a table of contents with a reference to the

1026
01:24:21,340 --> 01:24:26,340
policies in this plan that carry out and meet those objectives for the growth management

1027
01:24:26,340 --> 01:24:27,980
plan itself.

1028
01:24:28,940 --> 01:24:31,420
Obviously, a key of growth management is transportation.

1029
01:24:31,420 --> 01:24:32,880
Good

1030
01:24:39,790 --> 01:24:40,230
evening.

1031
01:24:40,830 --> 01:24:40,950
Good evening.

1032
01:24:40,950 --> 01:24:41,950
My name is Minjou.

1033
01:24:42,570 --> 01:24:47,450
I am the principal traffic engineer for the general plan update effort.

1034
01:24:49,030 --> 01:24:56,510
The slide show you here is our proposed future functional classification for city of La Habra.

1035
01:24:57,190 --> 01:24:59,970
As you can see, they are about to start.

1036
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:03,660
7 categories of roadway functional classification.

1037
01:25:10,610 --> 01:25:16,390
We did very thorough analysis for the whole roadway system.

1038
01:25:16,810 --> 01:25:26,290
We used the OCTA traffic model, which is traffic demand forecast model, to forecast the future traffic need.

1039
01:25:26,290 --> 01:25:33,410
traffic volume, obviously based on the proposed land use, which Woody mentioned before

1040
01:25:33,410 --> 01:25:39,610
him. And our analysis, we conducted the existing traffic

1041
01:25:39,610 --> 01:25:48,430
come as well as a future analysis. Based on analysis, here's the very overall conclusion

1042
01:25:48,430 --> 01:25:54,350
here. For the roadways segments, actually there's all the roadways segments

1043
01:25:54,350 --> 01:25:59,190
are expected to operate at a acceptable level of service.

1044
01:25:59,430 --> 01:26:01,290
No improvement on needed.

1045
01:26:02,450 --> 01:26:06,830
There are only two major intersections need improvement.

1046
01:26:07,570 --> 01:26:11,510
The two intersections are Beach Boulevard at Imperial Highway.

1047
01:26:13,090 --> 01:26:15,910
Another one is Walnut Street at Imperial Highway.

1048
01:26:16,410 --> 01:26:21,830
Those are primarily due to the regional traffic growth

1049
01:26:21,830 --> 01:26:23,610
on impure highway.

1050
01:26:24,410 --> 01:26:27,010
The quick question before you move on the slide.

1051
01:26:27,470 --> 01:26:28,350
Do you want to go back?

1052
01:26:29,930 --> 01:26:32,010
So, operated acceptable conditions.

1053
01:26:32,330 --> 01:26:34,970
So, what level of service are you saying is acceptable?

1054
01:26:36,770 --> 01:26:39,470
It depends upon what roadway.

1055
01:26:39,850 --> 01:26:45,010
If that roadway is the stay highway, which is called trans roadway,

1056
01:26:45,830 --> 01:26:48,990
then the level of acceptable level of services is E.

1057
01:26:48,990 --> 01:26:53,010
But if it's local, it's sitting on roadway.

1058
01:26:53,270 --> 01:26:55,230
It's level service D.

1059
01:26:55,390 --> 01:26:56,830
E, which is fair.

1060
01:26:57,750 --> 01:26:57,890
Yeah.

1061
01:26:58,090 --> 01:27:00,730
I mean, the level of service is from A to F.

1062
01:27:01,150 --> 01:27:02,430
A is the best.

1063
01:27:03,090 --> 01:27:04,370
F is the worst.

1064
01:27:06,650 --> 01:27:07,370
Thank you.

1065
01:27:10,770 --> 01:27:14,830
For the improvement, we also run some improvement.

1066
01:27:14,950 --> 01:27:17,070
Measure improvement measures.

1067
01:27:17,070 --> 01:27:20,110
for the beach below an impure highway.

1068
01:27:20,770 --> 01:27:25,250
The proposed impure is to construct a four-source

1069
01:27:25,250 --> 01:27:28,790
bank and four-thousand-thousand-thru-ling in order

1070
01:27:28,790 --> 01:27:31,170
to improve the level of service.

1071
01:27:31,470 --> 01:27:33,830
For one not straight at impure highway,

1072
01:27:34,130 --> 01:27:36,250
we propose to install a traffic signal.

1073
01:27:36,810 --> 01:27:38,710
I just want to make sure people understand,

1074
01:27:38,990 --> 01:27:40,990
this is for the long-range conditions.

1075
01:27:41,870 --> 01:27:44,030
Not something you have to happen right away.

1076
01:27:44,030 --> 01:27:46,550
It's for the two or 35 condition.

1077
01:27:47,370 --> 01:27:49,470
That would have to go to Cal Fransal, right?

1078
01:27:50,090 --> 01:27:50,550
If you're highway.

1079
01:27:51,090 --> 01:27:52,710
If your highway is culture now.

1080
01:27:52,770 --> 01:27:55,130
Are you also proposing a crosswalk there?

1081
01:27:56,510 --> 01:27:58,050
Crosswalk for the intersection.

1082
01:27:58,150 --> 01:27:58,890
Hold it in Imperial.

1083
01:27:59,650 --> 01:27:59,890
Yes.

1084
01:28:00,350 --> 01:28:01,790
Crosswalk in signal.

1085
01:28:01,810 --> 01:28:02,270
Signal.

1086
01:28:03,890 --> 01:28:05,590
Signal, console, crosswalk.

1087
01:28:05,990 --> 01:28:07,610
South Cal Trans has to do it.

1088
01:28:07,610 --> 01:28:10,030
We should start now and then by 2030, five.

1089
01:28:15,090 --> 01:28:20,350
I think there's an urge you go to talk to them right now.

1090
01:28:23,030 --> 01:28:30,470
In addition, we also found there are about four intersections need improvement.

1091
01:28:31,330 --> 01:28:36,230
Those are majorly due to the local land use changes.

1092
01:28:36,230 --> 01:28:39,850
The intersections are idle hostry at Weedier,

1093
01:28:40,310 --> 01:28:42,030
Hover Boulevard at Weedier,

1094
01:28:42,410 --> 01:28:45,930
Cypress at Lamber, and Palm Street at Lamber.

1095
01:28:46,650 --> 01:28:49,290
We also look into what's the improvement.

1096
01:28:49,470 --> 01:28:52,630
We need to propel for those locations,

1097
01:28:52,950 --> 01:28:54,590
for the potential improvements.

1098
01:28:56,190 --> 01:28:59,350
Here are the general notes for our city-wide

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01:28:59,350 --> 01:29:00,830
circulation system.

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01:29:01,530 --> 01:29:04,210
We want to make sure our circulation system

1101
01:29:04,210 --> 01:29:06,550
is inconsistent with the land use.

1102
01:29:06,670 --> 01:29:09,070
That's why we use the model, the model,

1103
01:29:09,510 --> 01:29:11,510
the input of the model is the land use.

1104
01:29:11,970 --> 01:29:14,670
The proposed land use generates the need

1105
01:29:14,670 --> 01:29:17,950
for the future, your future roadways system.

1106
01:29:18,910 --> 01:29:21,610
Our policies also look into not only

1107
01:29:21,610 --> 01:29:25,210
for vehicle circulation, but also for the non-modal transportation

1108
01:29:25,210 --> 01:29:27,530
or turnative transportation system,

1109
01:29:27,630 --> 01:29:30,130
including the public transit, the bars,

1110
01:29:30,130 --> 01:29:33,790
and the bicycle facility and pedestrian facilities.

1111
01:29:34,870 --> 01:29:37,430
We also looked into the goods movement.

1112
01:29:37,890 --> 01:29:41,710
Make sure your truck routes has many more impact

1113
01:29:41,710 --> 01:29:44,730
to the neighborhood, to the residential areas.

1114
01:29:47,490 --> 01:29:50,850
Transportation, the management, the mix use

1115
01:29:50,850 --> 01:29:52,690
would talk a lot about mix use.

1116
01:29:52,890 --> 01:29:55,670
That's the great way to reduce traffic.

1117
01:29:56,730 --> 01:29:59,230
We have policies for that.

1118
01:29:59,230 --> 01:29:59,970
And we're off.

1119
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:11,360
So, our policy, make sure our city's circulation system is consistent with the Orange County Sustainable Community Strategy.

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01:30:12,560 --> 01:30:22,380
The Orange County has their own MPH, master plan of Ontario Roadway. We want to make sure our system is consistent with your neighbor cities.

1121
01:30:22,380 --> 01:30:27,440
We also have a policy for the Neighborhood Traffic Management Program.

1122
01:30:28,400 --> 01:30:33,160
Make sure propels policies for traffic coming speed reduction.

1123
01:30:34,380 --> 01:30:38,460
We also have policy for intelligent transportation system for your signal,

1124
01:30:38,700 --> 01:30:43,420
signal synchronization, your communication system for all the signals.

1125
01:30:44,200 --> 01:30:50,160
And parking obviously propels parking efficient parking management and re-man.

1126
01:30:52,270 --> 01:31:02,270
So we could give you questions. So trip reductions through land. So are we reaching out to the new residents moving in the town?

1127
01:31:02,370 --> 01:31:14,310
Because as I look at that, where I live on the northeast part of town, you're not going to get me to walk over the west ridge or to downtown Fahabra.

1128
01:31:14,310 --> 01:31:16,330
I would probably drive my car.

1129
01:31:16,950 --> 01:31:18,150
So are we going to come out?

1130
01:31:18,270 --> 01:31:19,910
Or does this really mean you're trying

1131
01:31:19,910 --> 01:31:22,030
to get everyone in the hybrid to walk more?

1132
01:31:30,580 --> 01:31:34,120
I should say, a lot of quantitative analysis

1133
01:31:34,740 --> 01:31:37,580
is based on to capture the mix.

1134
01:31:37,900 --> 01:31:42,240
So that's in terms of the analysis, the pedestrian, the biking,

1135
01:31:43,120 --> 01:31:48,060
that really, we look at the other cities example.

1136
01:31:48,060 --> 01:31:53,880
You know, so the design, the tool dream, how do you promote the buys?

1137
01:31:54,860 --> 01:31:55,720
I'm not sure I

1138
01:31:55,720 --> 01:32:02,760
I just want, you know, think about that because as I mentioned my daughter went to school in New York because they could walk

1139
01:32:02,760 --> 01:32:05,320
in a mile to just better everything

1140
01:32:05,320 --> 01:32:08,880
Right here, we're even else rich and then back with

1141
01:32:09,440 --> 01:32:16,240
Armed fulls loads of things so why you have to cross the street we are looking at for instance interest of time

1142
01:32:16,240 --> 01:32:21,900
your signal time zone you have refugee area waiting for the traffic so those are the

1143
01:32:21,900 --> 01:32:28,920
tool backs we've I think it's a difficult goal to obtain you know if you don't mind I

1144
01:32:28,920 --> 01:32:36,360
might mention starting a bus service in La Habra is a circulator route that they can go along

1145
01:32:36,360 --> 01:32:40,760
way towards addressing a lot of the will tie we will connect us down to the down harbour to the

1146
01:32:40,760 --> 01:32:44,880
to make any statistics on what could be?

1147
01:32:45,040 --> 01:32:46,840
Oh, I don't know.

1148
01:32:47,600 --> 01:32:49,660
Reality of mixed use and the transportation

1149
01:32:49,660 --> 01:32:52,100
of man management really means by let's say,

1150
01:32:52,340 --> 01:32:54,520
as shopping center, commercial area, mixed use center,

1151
01:32:54,860 --> 01:32:57,560
you would park walks and you'll be able to actually just park once.

1152
01:32:57,560 --> 01:33:01,880
It's a park once kind of concept that enables you to patronize

1153
01:33:01,880 --> 01:33:03,860
if you will multiple business and same location.

1154
01:33:04,460 --> 01:33:07,200
So it's not 100% written, it's a marginal reduction,

1155
01:33:07,420 --> 01:33:09,400
but it is a reduction in trips.

1156
01:33:09,400 --> 01:33:11,400
Thank you.

1157
01:33:11,700 --> 01:33:14,120
The not going back to that, we were there.

1158
01:33:14,840 --> 01:33:23,600
There are a section of the plan dealing with all of the other systems, the backbone systems that support the uses within the community, all what we call it.

1159
01:33:24,200 --> 01:33:27,800
What the policies basically do is look at mid that.

1160
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:05,920
Housing, as you add the retail, the industrial uses, et cetera, that you're going to have adequate facilities.

1161
01:35:06,200 --> 01:35:12,480
You're going to have enough capacity in those systems to, indeed, accommodate those uses as they grow over the time.

1162
01:35:12,660 --> 01:35:16,760
For some of these also, there's some discussion and policies about how the financing occurs.

1163
01:35:17,320 --> 01:35:27,480
And then also very importantly, on some of these, particularly given recent state mandates, the movement towards more greenable, greenable, new term, green and sustainable kinds of strategies.

1164
01:35:27,480 --> 01:35:32,280
We're in a water crisis, we now know in the state of California, indeed those policies

1165
01:35:32,280 --> 01:35:37,220
deal with some address, some of the strategies, to begin to think about conservation

1166
01:35:37,220 --> 01:35:39,000
of those as well.

1167
01:35:39,720 --> 01:35:45,540
The next section of the plan chapter five is basically looking at, we talk up to now about

1168
01:35:45,540 --> 01:35:50,960
that built, all of the stuff that's built out there, the flesh and the body, and the skeleton

1169
01:35:50,960 --> 01:35:51,900
that body has.

1170
01:35:52,300 --> 01:35:56,660
We also recognize the part of the communities, indeed, the open spaces and the parks.

1171
01:35:56,660 --> 01:35:59,620
that comprise the community as well.

1172
01:36:00,180 --> 01:36:03,020
There are some basic policies in this plan

1173
01:36:03,020 --> 01:36:06,800
that recognize the need to provide additional park land

1174
01:36:06,800 --> 01:36:07,260
as you grow.

1175
01:36:07,420 --> 01:36:09,460
If you have additional population,

1176
01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:11,320
well, how do you do that?

1177
01:36:11,660 --> 01:36:12,980
If you don't have land,

1178
01:36:13,060 --> 01:36:15,980
you don't have 50 acres, 100 acres of new land

1179
01:36:15,980 --> 01:36:18,220
that you can go out and build a park on tomorrow.

1180
01:36:18,800 --> 01:36:20,740
So the whole notion of creative ways

1181
01:36:20,740 --> 01:36:22,440
of providing additional park lands

1182
01:36:22,440 --> 01:36:25,360
integrated in with some of these mixed use projects

1183
01:36:25,360 --> 01:36:30,480
of what we call pocket parks or parklets and other kinds of strategies that are being used

1184
01:36:30,480 --> 01:36:31,280
to provide that.

1185
01:36:31,560 --> 01:36:36,100
We do have one major opportunity that was identified by the committee, the railroad

1186
01:36:36,100 --> 01:36:36,680
right away.

1187
01:36:37,020 --> 01:36:43,320
And the opportunity to then use the railroad opportunity as that green spine, either jointly

1188
01:36:43,320 --> 01:36:48,320
with the railroad or should that railroad be abandoned over time or relinquished over time

1189
01:36:48,320 --> 01:36:53,800
and greed enhancing that with connectors into that corridor, because it does separate the

1190
01:36:53,800 --> 01:36:58,500
community, effectively north-south, and, et cetera, so it has the opportunity through the

1191
01:36:58,500 --> 01:37:02,920
greening and the additional amenities that could be developed in that over time, it could

1192
01:37:02,920 --> 01:37:08,180
heal and would re-night the community in many respects, so with a different

1193
01:37:08,180 --> 01:37:13,980
diversity of park types and policies about the funding and, again, as you see here on

1194
01:37:13,980 --> 01:37:16,100
the slide, the trail system as well.

1195
01:37:16,100 --> 01:37:25,040
In addition to parks and of the infrastructure, we have schools, police, libraries, all of the other kinds of facilities.

1196
01:37:26,040 --> 01:37:32,820
Like infrastructure, the policies again succinctly and simply basically direct that as we grow,

1197
01:37:33,380 --> 01:37:42,720
that you have adequacy of all of these over time that they're funded and they're accessible and available to the residents of Lahabra as well.

1198
01:37:42,720 --> 01:37:48,680
Then we deal with that other component of the environment, the natural environment, beyond the

1199
01:37:48,680 --> 01:37:53,900
built parks, et cetera, and their policies, addressing these topics, and essentially

1200
01:37:53,900 --> 01:37:59,680
conservation of those natural areas that remain within the community, conservation of

1201
01:37:59,680 --> 01:38:01,000
your watershed areas.

1202
01:38:01,180 --> 01:38:06,920
You have federal requirements on discharge into water bodies, water chain, et cetera.

1203
01:38:06,920 --> 01:38:11,360
there are policies addressing climate change and air quality.

1204
01:38:11,740 --> 01:38:15,060
And essentially when we talk about air quality and climate change,

1205
01:38:15,340 --> 01:38:19,880
the benefits and improvements in those come from how you develop your land uses.

1206
01:38:19,940 --> 01:38:23,720
If you're able to reduce vehicle trips and use green building technologies

1207
01:38:23,720 --> 01:38:28,280
through the new California Green Code, you're making great progress

1208
01:38:28,280 --> 01:38:34,760
in terms of achieving these objectives on air quality and climate as well.

1209
01:38:34,760 --> 01:38:40,060
And then again, the notion of you do, particularly from the edges of the city, has significant

1210
01:38:40,060 --> 01:38:42,240
evu-sheds down from your roads.

1211
01:38:42,560 --> 01:38:46,880
As you come into the city, it's on the cover of your general plan, and indeed the protection

1212
01:38:46,880 --> 01:38:51,300
of those important evu-sheds from public places as a part of the policy.

1213
01:38:51,800 --> 01:38:56,340
The other side of the dime, the policies I just talked about are what I might call technically

1214
01:38:56,340 --> 01:38:58,380
the goodies out there that you want to protect.

1215
01:38:58,740 --> 01:39:03,480
You also have the baddies, the things you want to protect human life and population from,

1216
01:39:03,480 --> 01:39:10,160
the risks of earthquakes and wildfires and other kinds of hazard as well and so you have policies

1217
01:39:10,160 --> 01:39:16,200
addressing indeed the protection and safety recognition of those resources as well as continuing

1218
01:39:16,200 --> 01:39:22,620
a very robust program of emergency services both from the standpoint of preparation and response

1219
01:39:22,620 --> 01:39:27,800
in the event of a major event and then finally in the section you also have the issue of noise

1220
01:39:27,800 --> 01:39:33,400
and compatibility of uses and the plan basically incorporates the noise contours that are

1221
01:39:33,400 --> 01:39:38,920
require by state law as well as indeed the standards for compatible land uses within this

1222
01:39:38,920 --> 01:39:45,000
noise contour areas as well. And then finally, the city also has been really at the forefront

1223
01:39:45,000 --> 01:39:51,760
in many respects of managing hazardous waste and protecting indeed uses, et cetera, and responding

1224
01:39:51,760 --> 01:39:56,880
to the concerns about hazardous waste. And in fact the policies in the plan mimic if you will

1225
01:39:56,880 --> 01:39:59,980
and build upon those policies you've had in place for a number of...

1226
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:04,880
We're talking about a few years about protection of health and safety of the residents, et cetera.

1227
01:40:06,480 --> 01:40:13,380
Would he before we go on? I'd like to call for about a five minute break. My colleagues would like that, which I would anyway.

1228
01:40:14,040 --> 01:40:15,160
I will take five minutes break.

1229
01:40:15,160 --> 01:40:16,300
I would also appreciate it.

1230
01:40:16,580 --> 01:40:18,220
All right. Five minutes. There.

1231
01:41:45,980 --> 01:41:46,660
Yeah, it was a...

1232
01:41:46,660 --> 01:41:47,540
Well, friends, they went there.

1233
01:41:51,420 --> 01:41:54,380
Yeah, it was, yeah, I didn't mean it.

1234
01:41:54,380 --> 01:41:56,900
This is what I'm hearing.

1235
01:41:58,540 --> 01:42:00,140
It was always important groups.

1236
01:42:00,460 --> 01:42:01,380
I was always...

1237
01:42:05,720 --> 01:42:06,200
No, no, no.

1238
01:42:06,560 --> 01:42:07,040
Sorry.

1239
01:42:07,420 --> 01:42:09,240
But if a parent sent me a new group shot,

1240
01:42:09,780 --> 01:42:11,260
I got a group shot.

1241
01:42:11,940 --> 01:42:13,500
So even they ran out of money,

1242
01:42:13,640 --> 01:42:15,200
or they guys, they only released.

1243
01:42:15,680 --> 01:42:17,060
I probably think it's so bad.

1244
01:42:17,340 --> 01:42:18,960
So they got a group of work.

1245
01:42:28,860 --> 01:42:32,800
Yeah, yeah, at least it's smooth, that people will try to use it.

1246
01:52:30,900 --> 01:52:59,860
In the interest of time, since we have, I'm sure, have a lot of people who would like to speak. I'm going to try to get through some material pretty globally. And if you have any questions, just please feel free to, we can answer them later. Chapter 8, we're at the really the end of the general plan, part of the presentation, is the section of the plan. This is the roadmap of actions that carry out the plan. Just a couple of things I do want to say about the implementation manual. One is implementation can change annually.

1247
01:52:59,860 --> 01:53:05,980
You have budgets to change annual basis, you have new programs to get into place on an annual basis, et cetera.

1248
01:53:06,620 --> 01:53:16,220
And the key introductory text to the implementation section indicates commitment to review it on a continuing basis to update it.

1249
01:53:16,220 --> 01:53:26,640
And very importantly, when you want to your action standard, and the general plan is to have a secret coverage, you have to have actually an EIR document for approval of the general plan.

1250
01:53:26,640 --> 01:53:32,480
And what we have done is written this in a way that, as you amend the implementation programs,

1251
01:53:32,840 --> 01:53:37,920
annually or whatever sequence that you continue to amend them, it's structured so you

1252
01:53:37,920 --> 01:53:41,600
do not have to go back and do full-secret coverage over those amendments.

1253
01:53:42,260 --> 01:53:46,240
So that's a very important, this goes back to the question about a living and breathing document

1254
01:53:46,240 --> 01:53:52,040
to enable you to adjust the plan over time, rather than being locked in and to respond

1255
01:53:52,040 --> 01:53:53,580
to changing economies and conditions.

1256
01:53:53,580 --> 01:53:57,240
And that's what I was going to address with regards to the living document.

1257
01:53:57,920 --> 01:54:04,680
So if we have somebody that really has an issue with the change and zoning, it would take

1258
01:54:04,680 --> 01:54:11,520
an amendment to change that back to what it was, but that would can be through whatever project

1259
01:54:11,520 --> 01:54:13,360
or some point in times we were using this.

1260
01:54:13,360 --> 01:54:16,440
And we can really review this every month if we want to.

1261
01:54:16,440 --> 01:54:21,040
The state law enables you to amend the general plan four times of year.

1262
01:54:21,040 --> 01:54:26,880
four times a year frequently you can except for affordable housing affordable housing projects are

1263
01:54:26,880 --> 01:54:32,500
excluded you can amend it daily if you want to for affordable housing projects but but you are basically

1264
01:54:32,500 --> 01:54:38,840
four times a year now that doesn't mean for different sites for different projects you can group if you will

1265
01:54:38,840 --> 01:54:44,800
actions it's just the timing is a key to four times a year so that's what I was going to clarify so

1266
01:54:44,800 --> 01:54:50,980
quarterly say we could have a meeting and make ten changes if we wanted absolutely is there any point where

1267
01:54:50,980 --> 01:54:59,820
then does not become the 2035 plan update or because it's a living document it still is still just and again that's why we tried this I say implement

1268
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:05,200
We wanted to make sure, actually, and it's good to have an annual review to just scan it to sort of do

1269
01:55:05,200 --> 01:55:10,420
yourself a report card? Where do we stand? Is it working? There's so much it's new in here.

1270
01:55:10,660 --> 01:55:13,100
That's going to be an important test for you to come back periodically and review.

1271
01:55:14,200 --> 01:55:20,260
Only other things I'll say, I'm not going to go through this. These are the components of actions in the implementation manual.

1272
01:55:21,360 --> 01:55:28,160
And indeed, the other components of this is you see that there's charts in the general plan that have time frames adjusted.

1273
01:55:28,160 --> 01:55:37,260
Your term means basically the things that you really have to do some of these by state statute to carry out the plan once it is adopted.

1274
01:55:37,480 --> 01:55:46,800
For example, normally the state will give you from about a year to 18 months to update the zoning ordinance for consistency with the general plan.

1275
01:55:46,960 --> 01:55:48,540
So that's a near term action.

1276
01:55:49,080 --> 01:55:53,580
The other actions shown under there are a lot of things that you're doing on a daily basis today.

1277
01:55:53,580 --> 01:55:58,320
they will continue. And then others that will be at your discretion, such as the mid-delong

1278
01:55:58,320 --> 01:56:02,880
term, as funding is available. We really haven't paid it to a time frame. It's as you

1279
01:56:02,880 --> 01:56:07,620
have funding and as you prioritize it. If the city should that be an important priority for

1280
01:56:07,620 --> 01:56:13,960
you as well, and your own goal and priority setting as a community itself. I won't go through

1281
01:56:13,960 --> 01:56:19,700
these. I just said earlier, there were actions that you have to enact immediately within

1282
01:56:19,700 --> 01:56:25,200
the first three to so years, this is the list of those items that you have to indeed follow

1283
01:56:25,200 --> 01:56:29,240
through and carrying out the general plan, including the zoning ordinance that I had talked

1284
01:56:29,240 --> 01:56:29,780
about there.

1285
01:56:29,980 --> 01:56:35,400
The way is mid-term five to twenty years and the year term, less than five years, go back real

1286
01:56:35,400 --> 01:56:35,640
for one.

1287
01:56:35,860 --> 01:56:40,540
Briefly, as the category is, the near-term, or as you run a five, and you're doing it, continuing

1288
01:56:41,160 --> 01:56:45,660
a periodic is, you know, you have to do that, housing element every eight years, kind of thing.

1289
01:56:45,660 --> 01:56:50,700
And the mid-to-long term is five to twenty-two whenever.

1290
01:56:54,220 --> 01:56:56,880
And this is just samples.

1291
01:56:58,220 --> 01:56:59,440
There are two appendices.

1292
01:56:59,580 --> 01:57:00,620
We mentioned earlier.

1293
01:57:01,320 --> 01:57:04,480
There are indeed themes about climate change.

1294
01:57:04,840 --> 01:57:07,720
This is important to satisfy the state statutes.

1295
01:57:08,060 --> 01:57:12,180
Now on climate change, AB 32, SB 375, et cetera.

1296
01:57:12,540 --> 01:57:17,120
And what we have given you is basically a page that if you see here on the bottom

1297
01:57:17,120 --> 01:57:21,480
and those charts are references to all of the policies in your plan.

1298
01:57:21,600 --> 01:57:27,960
It's a checklist, a policies that carry out the statutes and carry out the strategies

1299
01:57:27,960 --> 01:57:32,340
to address the issues raised by the climate change legislation as well.

1300
01:57:32,980 --> 01:57:37,840
And similarly, we have a similar series of charts and appendix B for the healthy and

1301
01:57:37,840 --> 01:57:40,720
issue of communities, et cetera.

1302
01:57:41,260 --> 01:57:44,900
Thank you, Rose, for helping us move into this direction on this plan as well.

1303
01:57:45,340 --> 01:57:45,480
Et cetera.

1304
01:57:45,480 --> 01:57:50,280
So that concludes the general plan and Tracy is going to give us a brief overview of the housing

1305
01:57:50,280 --> 01:57:50,980
element.

1306
01:57:53,660 --> 01:57:55,520
Mayor, council members, my name is Tracy Ferguson.

1307
01:57:55,840 --> 01:58:01,980
I'm a project manager with Atkins and primary author of the, uh, where's the clicker?

1308
01:58:02,220 --> 01:58:02,420
Clicker?

1309
01:58:02,620 --> 01:58:03,020
Clicker?

1310
01:58:03,020 --> 01:58:03,740
Yeah, I want you to invest.

1311
01:58:04,060 --> 01:58:06,420
I want you to invest.

1312
01:58:07,160 --> 01:58:11,200
Of the 2014, 2020, one housing element update.

1313
01:58:11,960 --> 01:58:16,760
This is an eight year cycle update as Woody mentioned, um, the housing element is required

1314
01:58:16,760 --> 01:58:19,880
by California State Law as part of the General Plan.

1315
01:58:20,400 --> 01:58:24,520
It's a comprehensive statement of both current and future housing needs.

1316
01:58:24,760 --> 01:58:29,720
It guides housing decisions in this city, including affordable housing to lower income

1317
01:58:29,720 --> 01:58:35,840
households, minimizes impediments where possible to the production of affordable housing.

1318
01:58:36,280 --> 01:58:42,320
And it's tied to the city's eligibility for various housing loan and grant programs.

1319
01:58:42,320 --> 01:58:47,160
this for example, community development block grant programs and home funds.

1320
01:58:49,820 --> 01:58:55,460
The contents of the document, it has six chapters, with an introduction, overview of housing

1321
01:58:55,460 --> 01:59:01,380
element state law, purpose, public participation activities that occurred during the process.

1322
01:59:01,840 --> 01:59:06,700
Chapter two is the needs assessment, this is really the city profile, demographics, it's

1323
01:59:06,700 --> 01:59:12,080
really the background setting, existing conditions of housing within the hub, we go then

1324
01:59:12,080 --> 01:59:19,040
housing resources chapter three, which identifies the land suitable for residential development

1325
01:59:19,040 --> 01:59:25,220
to meet the regional housing needs accommodation. Chapter four is housing constraints,

1326
01:59:25,400 --> 01:59:31,440
both looking at governmental and non-governmental constraints, then on to the review of the

1327
01:59:31,440 --> 01:59:37,300
previous plan. So the housing element always looks to the previous programs and policies,

1328
01:59:37,300 --> 01:59:45,320
analyzes those and includes a table of progress, which is a report of accomplishments and such,

1329
01:59:45,600 --> 01:59:51,180
within that, the city then decides if they like to continue programs, modify them, or delete them.

1330
01:59:52,840 --> 01:59:58,740
Then the last chapter, chapter 6 of the plan is the housing goals policies and programs,

1331
01:59:59,600 --> 01:59:59,960
which will...

1332
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:06,580
We'll be undertaken during the eight-year projection period. There is also an appendix which discusses further

1333
02:00:06,580 --> 02:00:14,980
the public participation activities. Housing needs. So this is the fifth cycle of the housing element.

1334
02:00:16,280 --> 02:00:29,980
And every city is dulled out their regional housing needs allocation. And so for this fifth cycle for the city of

1335
02:00:29,980 --> 02:00:56,100
reflected as one and every category, basically, then we do have a Rina Roll over, which was from the prior cycle where a program was chosen to be deferred due to the housing element being adopted in September 2011 from the previous cycle, and because there was a concurrent general plan update going on, that this program was deferred.

1336
02:00:56,100 --> 02:01:03,400
So we roll over 76 units. All lower income units that equals a total rena of 80. So that's what

1337
02:01:03,400 --> 02:01:11,220
the city needs to accommodate 80 units. You see there 78 in the lower income and two in the

1338
02:01:11,220 --> 02:01:12,160
moderate above moderate.

1339
02:01:14,380 --> 02:01:18,480
So how do you accommodate this rena? You look to vacant sites within the community

1340
02:01:18,480 --> 02:01:25,400
and a city of the harbor. You have identified four vacant sites reflected on this map. One

1341
02:01:25,400 --> 02:01:27,800
there along Beach Boulevard, near Imperial,

1342
02:01:28,600 --> 02:01:31,120
one up in the Northern City limits along Harbor,

1343
02:01:31,600 --> 02:01:33,300
and then two in the Central City,

1344
02:01:33,440 --> 02:01:34,980
south of La Haber Boulevard.

1345
02:01:37,710 --> 02:01:41,270
Here is how the vacant site inventory

1346
02:01:41,270 --> 02:01:43,150
sites one through four layout,

1347
02:01:43,570 --> 02:01:45,890
as far as accommodating the rena,

1348
02:01:46,250 --> 02:01:48,550
you see there that sites one, two, and three

1349
02:01:48,550 --> 02:01:50,830
are all projected to accommodate

1350
02:01:50,830 --> 02:01:53,190
to moderate above moderate income

1351
02:01:53,190 --> 02:02:00,990
And, site 4, the largest site at 9.97 acres, is a designated there for lower income units.

1352
02:02:01,470 --> 02:02:06,370
That equates to a total of 356 at the end.

1353
02:02:06,930 --> 02:02:08,990
So, you look down to the rena surplus.

1354
02:02:09,230 --> 02:02:16,310
It's basically 356 minus the 80, and you have a total of 276 units in surplus.

1355
02:02:16,650 --> 02:02:21,190
So, you definitely accommodate your rena, basically more than accommodate your rena.

1356
02:02:22,650 --> 02:02:25,290
All right, let's get into the goals and policies.

1357
02:02:25,510 --> 02:02:30,770
You have three overarching goals with supportive policies and programs within the housing element.

1358
02:02:30,810 --> 02:02:49,830
The first goal relates to new housing, so adequate housing development by the private sector utilizing both community facilities and structures, minimizing environmental hazards and incompatible uses, enhancing quality of life as we discussed to meet the economic social health and transportation needs of all citizens.

1359
02:02:49,830 --> 02:02:54,330
the associate of policies and programs there, not going to walk through all of these necessarily,

1360
02:02:54,970 --> 02:02:59,110
but integrated strategy for development. You want to provide housing types,

1361
02:02:59,690 --> 02:03:04,490
both market and non-market, so you need to get to your affordable housing units. The jobs

1362
02:03:04,490 --> 02:03:09,970
housing balance that definitely blends to the economic development side of the plan and consistency

1363
02:03:09,970 --> 02:03:15,770
with that element, exploration of inclusionary housing, which, again, gives you your affordable housing

1364
02:03:15,770 --> 02:03:19,770
and now the introduction of the mixed use designation also

1365
02:03:19,770 --> 02:03:21,210
lets itself to affordable.

1366
02:03:21,550 --> 02:03:25,090
Second goal here relates to housing maintenance and conservation.

1367
02:03:25,810 --> 02:03:28,350
Definitely one of the principles within the housing

1368
02:03:28,350 --> 02:03:30,390
element coming straight out of state law,

1369
02:03:30,710 --> 02:03:31,990
maintain and conserve housing.

1370
02:03:32,390 --> 02:03:33,430
That's bottom line.

1371
02:03:33,850 --> 02:03:36,450
You want your neighborhood's decent safe and sanitary conditions.

1372
02:03:36,710 --> 02:03:38,050
You want adequate facilities.

1373
02:03:38,750 --> 02:03:41,150
And the like just letting itself to a better quality

1374
02:03:41,150 --> 02:03:43,310
of life for citizens in the Hovera,

1375
02:03:43,430 --> 02:03:44,910
pauses and programs there.

1376
02:03:44,910 --> 02:03:52,410
look to protection of existing single-family residential areas, again, compatible to land use

1377
02:03:52,410 --> 02:03:58,010
element policies, involvement of residents and organizations, the Hover is a caring community

1378
02:03:58,010 --> 02:04:03,810
that echoes, adequate sites for the rena, you want rehabilitation and home improvement,

1379
02:04:04,570 --> 02:04:09,570
assistance for low-income households, preservation of affordable units, so the affordable units

1380
02:04:09,570 --> 02:04:16,090
you have in the city right now you want to keep them and inclusion of energy conservation measures

1381
02:04:16,090 --> 02:04:17,690
in new and existing housing.

1382
02:04:18,270 --> 02:04:21,930
The last goal relates to housing assistance and balance.

1383
02:04:22,170 --> 02:04:27,890
So this is the equity portion of it, adequate housing opportunities for all economic segments

1384
02:04:27,890 --> 02:04:35,350
of La Habra regardless of race, color, age, origin, religion, sex, familial status, or disability.

1385
02:04:36,490 --> 02:04:42,430
What we're looking at there relates to equal housing opportunities, prevention of housing

1386
02:04:42,430 --> 02:04:48,710
discrimination, provisions of housing for supportive of special needs groups, including

1387
02:04:48,710 --> 02:04:53,030
the homeless, you know, female heads of single female heads of household is a special

1388
02:04:53,030 --> 02:04:58,130
needs group, so looking at daycare services for that demographic in particular, job training

1389
02:04:58,130 --> 02:04:59,890
for residents back to economic development.

1390
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:05,740
Amendment, and consistency there, and then home ownership assistance for low and moderate income households.

1391
02:05:08,790 --> 02:05:15,830
In conclusion, the housing element was submitted to HCD, as you recall, for the 60 day statutory review.

1392
02:05:16,290 --> 02:05:30,610
HCD did provide the city of La Habra, a letter, and that letter did indicate that the current housing element as presented to you tonight is in compliance with housing element state law.

1393
02:05:30,610 --> 02:05:40,350
And if the city were to adopt, as is that there would be a certification of the city's housing element by the California Department of Housing and Community Development,

1394
02:05:40,810 --> 02:05:43,410
who reviews all of the housing elements within the state of California.

1395
02:05:45,270 --> 02:05:48,010
And your map there, did you use listed four sites?

1396
02:05:48,530 --> 02:05:51,170
Was one of those the Habitat for Humanity Project?

1397
02:05:51,970 --> 02:05:52,590
We have?

1398
02:05:52,670 --> 02:05:53,510
I'm unsure.

1399
02:05:54,010 --> 02:05:54,650
I'll look to staff?

1400
02:05:54,790 --> 02:05:55,310
No.

1401
02:05:55,310 --> 02:05:58,470
Because that would count towards our rena, wouldn't it?

1402
02:05:58,550 --> 02:06:01,110
So, we actually, that wasn't counted in that number.

1403
02:06:02,850 --> 02:06:04,390
The rena, what we did on the rena,

1404
02:06:04,610 --> 02:06:06,910
is look to vacant sites, and so I don't know if that was.

1405
02:06:07,570 --> 02:06:10,650
There were more vacant sites than we had within the analysis,

1406
02:06:10,910 --> 02:06:13,490
we looked to the vacant sites, which had the most potential

1407
02:06:13,490 --> 02:06:15,510
to provide for the rena units.

1408
02:06:16,870 --> 02:06:19,050
So, it was staff recommendation to go with those four sites.

1409
02:06:19,230 --> 02:06:20,970
There were more vacant sites out there.

1410
02:06:21,030 --> 02:06:22,110
They just weren't selected.

1411
02:06:22,470 --> 02:06:24,650
So, we had, and then, which yields is surplus.

1412
02:06:24,650 --> 02:06:29,850
But in reality, once those are built, I mean, we'll actually exceed the arena by even more.

1413
02:06:30,490 --> 02:06:35,770
And what you'll do again within your annual review of your general plan, including your housing element,

1414
02:06:36,150 --> 02:06:41,230
is your report on those quantified objectives of meeting the very low and low income units,

1415
02:06:41,550 --> 02:06:44,110
and so you can demonstrate that on a yearly basis.

1416
02:06:44,250 --> 02:06:46,590
So that can be caught up within the numbers.

1417
02:06:48,230 --> 02:06:50,990
Is there any penalty yet for not meeting those numbers?

1418
02:06:51,930 --> 02:06:54,430
Is there a penalty for not meeting the rena?

1419
02:06:55,190 --> 02:06:57,930
It's tied to CDBG funds and home funds,

1420
02:06:58,250 --> 02:07:02,890
and so that your eligibility for those sorts of grants

1421
02:07:02,890 --> 02:07:05,110
and monies and such, it's tied to that.

1422
02:07:05,150 --> 02:07:09,370
And then if you have a non-compliant element within your general plan,

1423
02:07:09,430 --> 02:07:15,470
there's always a liability there for having your plan being sued

1424
02:07:15,470 --> 02:07:17,210
or taken to court.

1425
02:07:17,810 --> 02:07:19,630
I understand the suit and the court.

1426
02:07:19,630 --> 02:07:23,990
I didn't know if there was a state penalty with regard to MSEDVG and those things.

1427
02:07:24,110 --> 02:07:24,270
No.

1428
02:07:25,030 --> 02:07:25,630
It's just, yeah.

1429
02:07:25,870 --> 02:07:28,470
So it's in the best interest of the city to have a certified element.

1430
02:07:28,590 --> 02:07:32,530
Some communities in California, they don't get the certification, and they say, thank

1431
02:07:32,530 --> 02:07:33,030
you very much.

1432
02:07:33,150 --> 02:07:33,770
And they walk away.

1433
02:07:36,220 --> 02:07:37,100
Thank you.

1434
02:07:37,540 --> 02:07:37,940
Another question?

1435
02:07:43,520 --> 02:07:45,100
Good evening, Mayor City Council.

1436
02:07:45,240 --> 02:07:49,620
My name is Michael Hendrix, and I'm a project director for Atkins.

1437
02:07:49,620 --> 02:07:58,560
I was the architect of the Climate Action Plan Tracy and Heidi actually assisted in drafting this plan as well.

1438
02:08:01,470 --> 02:08:10,450
So, if you're having trouble sleeping tonight, I encourage you to look at chapters 4, 5, 6 and 7.

1439
02:08:10,530 --> 02:08:16,790
Those are the heart of the plan which gets into the Mission Inventories, Greenhouse Gas Reduction Programs,

1440
02:08:16,790 --> 02:08:23,150
total emission reductions, the conclusion and implementation portion of that plan.

1441
02:08:24,870 --> 02:08:28,910
More to the point, rather than reading off the purpose and achievement goals,

1442
02:08:30,710 --> 02:08:34,410
Akans in the design of the plan, or myself in the design of this plan,

1443
02:08:34,770 --> 02:08:36,770
had three main goals in mind for the city.

1444
02:08:36,890 --> 02:08:42,630
One is to maintain local control of GHG reductions and greenhouse gas thresholds,

1445
02:08:42,630 --> 02:08:51,250
than have the air district or have to look to the Attorney General's memorandum with their

1446
02:08:51,250 --> 02:08:58,830
wish list of reduction measures. You decide what's best in the character of the city

1447
02:08:58,830 --> 02:09:05,230
as to how you're going to reduce emissions. Another goal was to provide a qualified climate

1448
02:09:05,230 --> 02:09:10,970
action plan that can enjoy sequituring for future development projects, so while it doesn't

1449
02:09:10,970 --> 02:09:17,190
leave you a secret, will relieve you of doing a detailed greenhouse gas analysis and hiring

1450
02:09:17,190 --> 02:09:23,930
a consultant every time a developer wants to provide a proposed development needs to go through

1451
02:09:23,930 --> 02:09:29,110
a secret review and then we wanted to provide reduction measures that keep the city economically

1452
02:09:29,110 --> 02:09:35,370
competitive for new development and we'll get into how we do that in this balance of the need

1453
02:09:35,370 --> 02:09:39,690
for reducing emissions and still keep economic vitality within the city.

1454
02:09:43,050 --> 02:09:48,590
So, the general source category is transportation and energy of the lion's share of

1455
02:09:48,590 --> 02:09:57,090
emissions that come from the community within the city. Transportation emissions, one of the

1456
02:09:57,090 --> 02:09:59,970
ways we reduce is reduction of vehicle miles.

1457
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:08,900
Travel through that mixed use concept of reducing trips. Mayer we may not be able to entice you to get out

1458
02:10:08,900 --> 02:10:14,580
of your car and walk everywhere in the city, but we might be able to entice you to drive within

1459
02:10:14,580 --> 02:10:20,560
Lahabra and pick a place to park and eat it a nice restaurant, find the shopping that you want

1460
02:10:20,560 --> 02:10:26,780
to do here in Lahabra rather than sneaking off to La Marata and seeing that new Christian rocker

1461
02:10:32,390 --> 02:10:36,430
So in this way, trips are reduced marginally.

1462
02:10:36,910 --> 02:10:41,130
The other is a key point in the transportation level,

1463
02:10:41,810 --> 02:10:46,550
looking not only at non-vehicle transportation,

1464
02:10:46,870 --> 02:10:52,410
but also at electric vehicle incentives to those vehicle trips

1465
02:10:52,410 --> 02:10:55,490
that we do have, we'll be cleaning up over time.

1466
02:10:55,810 --> 02:10:57,450
And that is an incentive program.

1467
02:10:57,450 --> 02:11:05,310
On the energy side, looking at mixed use in and of itself because of the condensed infrastructure

1468
02:11:05,310 --> 02:11:13,970
reduces energy use for those uses and providing compliments to Title 24 as well as water reductions.

1469
02:11:15,110 --> 02:11:23,710
That constitutes those two transportation and energy constitutes over 85% of the emissions from the city.

1470
02:11:23,710 --> 02:11:29,350
Let me ask you this question and have a goal of reducing up 15 percent.

1471
02:11:29,750 --> 02:11:34,250
I assume you have to back into that number because we don't have the machine I can put

1472
02:11:34,250 --> 02:11:40,950
up in the air measuring that reduction and also we don't have a border in the air for other

1473
02:11:40,950 --> 02:11:42,750
cities, the other pollution comes in.

1474
02:11:43,650 --> 02:11:47,790
So, do you really just back into the number saying, okay, we had x trips and now we have

1475
02:11:47,790 --> 02:11:51,350
white trips and therefore we have x pollution decrease?

1476
02:11:51,350 --> 02:12:03,510
Well, great question, so we do what's called the baseline emissions inventory and we look at the amount of electricity natural gas solid waste generated in the city amount of water used in the city.

1477
02:12:04,810 --> 02:12:19,570
Transportation's the most troublesome because we don't have little trackers on every car, but we rely on transportation engineers to through their models figure out how many trips are generated within the city and how much vehicle miles traveled.

1478
02:12:19,570 --> 02:12:25,830
and then from there we are able to apply emission factors and calculate the emissions coming from

1479
02:12:25,830 --> 02:12:31,330
those different sources. Utility uses actually the most accurate. We know what's something

1480
02:12:31,330 --> 02:12:36,890
California Edison generates as far as emissions per kilowatt and by using utility records

1481
02:12:36,890 --> 02:12:43,850
we're able to see exactly how many kilowatts are consumed within the city. So taking that baseline

1482
02:12:43,850 --> 02:12:50,350
And then looking at your general plan, looking at two key dates, 2020 and 2035 projecting forward.

1483
02:12:50,450 --> 02:12:56,430
You're talking about electricity, so say I use a thousand kilowatt hours in my house.

1484
02:12:57,030 --> 02:13:06,610
So I decrease that to 900. Are you saying, therefore, they don't have to generate that 900, and that's where the saving is, because you're not saving anything in my house.

1485
02:13:07,890 --> 02:13:15,670
By using less electricity, they would not have to generate and that would produce less emissions.

1486
02:13:16,450 --> 02:13:17,270
Some are else.

1487
02:13:18,030 --> 02:13:18,390
Not in the city.

1488
02:13:18,410 --> 02:13:19,190
Well, that's true.

1489
02:13:19,390 --> 02:13:26,970
Those are what's called scope two emissions, indirect source emissions, following the protocols for community wide inventories.

1490
02:13:27,190 --> 02:13:35,330
We need to include scope two emissions because indirectly you are producing those emissions through the consumption of electricity.

1491
02:13:35,330 --> 02:13:40,930
The natural gas is a direct source, transportation is a direct source.

1492
02:13:41,550 --> 02:13:46,110
Solid waste is an indirect source, because you may not have control of the solid waste facilities

1493
02:13:46,110 --> 02:13:50,170
but you're generating the trash that goes there that produces the methane.

1494
02:13:51,790 --> 02:13:51,850
Thank you.

1495
02:13:53,740 --> 02:14:00,200
So, in looking at reduction measures, three basic types, the R1 are the state-level measures,

1496
02:14:00,200 --> 02:14:08,040
such as the low carbon fuel standard and title 24 those things mandated by the state that

1497
02:14:08,040 --> 02:14:14,300
the city really has no control over, but they do impact the amount of emissions coming from

1498
02:14:14,300 --> 02:14:20,780
the city. The renewable portfolio that the utilities are required to follow also reduce

1499
02:14:21,560 --> 02:14:26,860
emissions attributed to those thousand kilowatts that you're consuming in your household.

1500
02:14:26,860 --> 02:14:32,460
The art two measures are the heart of the plan, those are the measures the city does have control over.

1501
02:14:32,960 --> 02:14:52,060
And then the art three measures, what we call complementary measures in the most case, that might be public education programs and promotion programs, incentives to try and ties people to walk more, drive less, purchase and electric vehicles opposed to a gasoline vehicle, those kinds of things.

1502
02:15:00,050 --> 02:15:29,130
The cap reduction measures will ensure that LaHover meets the AB32 reduction target. More importantly, if you're going to go to all this trouble of having these mission inventories and reduction measures and the calculations, we've gone the extra mile to do what's called qualified plan that will maintain your local control rather than use South Coast thresholds or for development projects to rely on the wish list of the Attorney General's Office in their memorandum.

1503
02:15:29,130 --> 02:15:34,970
They look to the climate action plan and tearing off of that to provide reductions.

1504
02:15:35,590 --> 02:15:39,330
And as long as there's shown to be compliant with the general plan and the climate action

1505
02:15:39,330 --> 02:15:43,890
plan, they're considered less than significant impacts for greenhouse gas emissions.

1506
02:15:45,030 --> 02:15:50,490
Financing and budgeting, there's some opportunities in grant funding, particular to electric

1507
02:15:50,490 --> 02:15:52,830
car charging stations for the city.

1508
02:15:52,950 --> 02:15:56,250
Things like that that'll help implement these reduction measures.

1509
02:15:56,250 --> 02:16:03,490
And then we have a timeline and prioritization, developed and implementation schedule where

1510
02:16:03,490 --> 02:16:08,410
you have near-term reduction measures, those low-hanging fruit, if you will, and then

1511
02:16:08,410 --> 02:16:09,870
the longer-term stuff.

1512
02:16:12,080 --> 02:16:19,300
The way we've incentivized reduction measures to balance that economic prosperity with the city

1513
02:16:19,300 --> 02:16:23,360
is to look at those things that add economic values.

1514
02:16:23,360 --> 02:16:29,940
So the mixed use that reduces vehicle trips also reduce greenhouse gas emissions and we

1515
02:16:29,940 --> 02:16:34,780
were sure to make sure to calculate those first before we went into things that were

1516
02:16:34,780 --> 02:16:35,580
more expensive.

1517
02:16:36,180 --> 02:16:41,120
And looking at energy efficiency retrofits such as the hero program, we looked at those first

1518
02:16:41,120 --> 02:16:47,760
because those actually saved the community money in the long term and in many cases are incentivized

1519
02:16:47,760 --> 02:16:56,500
with grant programs and tax rebakes before getting into anything that would actually cost the community.

1520
02:16:56,960 --> 02:16:59,500
And in doing so, we came up with two reduction targets.

1521
02:16:59,660 --> 02:17:04,400
One for 2020 that city easily attains and one for 2035.

1522
02:17:04,860 --> 02:17:09,740
The 2035 reduction target, we set as an interim target.

1523
02:17:09,980 --> 02:17:16,540
And what I mean by that is that the 2035 target needs to be revisited as we get closer to 2020.

1524
02:17:16,540 --> 02:17:24,040
see what works and what doesn't work for the city and how you can continue reducing emissions

1525
02:17:24,040 --> 02:17:32,500
post 2020. In particular, the state currently does not have a post 2020 plan and the city

1526
02:17:33,100 --> 02:17:39,420
of La Habra, like so many other cities, rely heavily on those reductions that the state

1527
02:17:39,420 --> 02:17:45,860
mandates through low carbon fuel standards, renewable portfolio, Title 24. And until the state

1528
02:17:45,860 --> 02:17:47,700
makes the next step post 2020.

1529
02:17:47,960 --> 02:17:50,980
It would be really hard for the city on its own

1530
02:17:50,980 --> 02:17:55,060
to take the entire burden of reduced reductions.

1531
02:17:55,900 --> 02:18:00,180
So we call that 2035 target and interim target to be looked

1532
02:18:00,180 --> 02:18:05,740
at somewhere, 2017, 2018, in preparation for post 2020.

1533
02:18:10,600 --> 02:18:13,600
This goes through some of the implementation steps, public

1534
02:18:13,600 --> 02:18:14,320
participation.

1535
02:18:14,520 --> 02:18:17,540
Those are those R3 measures where you educate stakeholders

1536
02:18:17,540 --> 02:18:24,760
and encourage participation, monitoring and inventorying updates, and then I already talked about

1537
02:18:24,760 --> 02:18:25,920
beyond 2020.

1538
02:18:29,040 --> 02:18:34,980
So with that, we'll proceed on to the environmental impact report.

1539
02:18:38,660 --> 02:18:42,600
Good evening. My name is Nicole Morse with the Planning Center, and I was the project manager

1540
02:18:42,600 --> 02:18:44,120
for the EIR portion.

1541
02:18:50,260 --> 02:18:56,700
So the EIR covered the general plan, the housing element update, as well as

1542
02:18:56,700 --> 02:19:02,840
the climate action plan. With respect to the general plan, the project looks at the existing

1543
02:19:02,840 --> 02:19:08,100
on-the-ground uses and compares that to build out of the general plan. The existing on-the-ground

1544
02:19:08,100 --> 02:19:14,040
uses were determined at the time of the notice of preparation when the initial study was being

1545
02:19:14,040 --> 02:19:21,480
prepared. And so we looked at approximately 5,200 additional dwelling units and 4,000 from

1546
02:19:21,480 --> 02:19:24,700
million square feet of additional non-residential square footage.

1547
02:19:26,840 --> 02:19:34,180
There were 14 topics analyzed in the environmental impact report of those.

1548
02:19:35,600 --> 02:19:42,260
They were, except for air quality, were found to be less insignificant, or after incorporation

1549
02:19:42,260 --> 02:19:48,220
of the policies in the general plan, which a lot of them were created to be self-medicating.

1550
02:19:50,180 --> 02:19:58,480
either with the policies or with mitigation 13 of the topic areas were determined to be less than significant.

1551
02:20:00,050 --> 02:20:01,710
The most significant air quality.

1552
02:20:02,450 --> 02:20:10,310
Air quality. And so, greenhouse gas emissions is on here, but through adoption of the climate action plan that will

1553
02:20:10,310 --> 02:20:16,050
actually mitigate that impact to a less than significant level. So that remains air quality

1554
02:20:16,050 --> 02:20:21,550
was the one that was determined to be significant and unavoidable, even with mitigation measures.

1555
02:20:22,410 --> 02:20:27,910
And that's typical of a project of the size where you're looking at build out of an entire city.

1556
02:20:29,450 --> 02:20:35,310
And I'm sorry, and how would you measure the impact of the air quality to, I mean, what

1557
02:20:35,310 --> 02:20:42,490
level of unhelpiness or what impact would it have in our community, the air quality?

1558
02:20:43,050 --> 02:20:48,490
The South Coast air quality management district has thresholds for the entire region, and

1559
02:20:48,490 --> 02:20:54,330
so they establish that for the criteria of pollutants, so the analysis looks at construction,

1560
02:20:54,330 --> 02:21:01,790
the short term construction impacts, and also operation, which is looking at the increase in traffic

1561
02:21:02,310 --> 02:21:06,590
or trips and then the emissions that would result because of that.

1562
02:21:06,730 --> 02:21:07,530
Thank you.

1563
02:21:07,770 --> 02:21:09,030
But I ask a question.

1564
02:21:09,250 --> 02:21:14,570
I'm not understanding the science, but wouldn't carbon dioxide be considered a greenhouse gas?

1565
02:21:15,990 --> 02:21:16,630
Yes.

1566
02:21:17,390 --> 02:21:19,650
But that's not obviously giving anyone asthma.

1567
02:21:19,870 --> 02:21:22,010
I mean, that's a naturally occurring thing we breathe out.

1568
02:21:22,010 --> 02:21:24,850
So I mean, when we're talking about air quality,

1569
02:21:26,210 --> 02:21:30,810
there's a difference between a greenhouse gas versus a poor

1570
02:21:30,810 --> 02:21:36,290
air quality that's harming people's lungs as they breathe, right?

1571
02:21:36,730 --> 02:21:41,090
The criteria pollutants for air quality are

1572
02:21:41,090 --> 02:21:42,610
look at particulate matter.

1573
02:21:43,130 --> 02:21:44,690
They look at ozone.

1574
02:21:46,070 --> 02:21:47,650
Michael could probably help me with this.

1575
02:21:51,010 --> 02:21:52,750
I'm in Monoxide, right?

1576
02:21:53,150 --> 02:21:53,610
I'm in Monoxide, right?

1577
02:21:53,770 --> 02:21:54,150
I'm in Monoxide, right?

1578
02:21:54,150 --> 02:21:58,450
I took an Oxide, a Monoxide, which is our,

1579
02:21:58,450 --> 02:21:59,450
it's both so important.

1580
02:21:59,810 --> 02:22:03,550
It's in a sulfur, sulfur dioxide.

1581
02:22:04,810 --> 02:22:07,150
Particularly matter, what they call ultrapine.

1582
02:22:07,470 --> 02:22:09,750
It's a little matter, which is PM2.5.

1583
02:22:10,170 --> 02:22:12,690
There are many decos that seem to look suspicious in their thoughts.

1584
02:22:14,290 --> 02:22:16,150
So those are, those are, self.

1585
02:22:16,150 --> 02:22:19,330
But why aren't you coming up to the mic if you're going to be.

1586
02:22:22,670 --> 02:22:26,850
So those are what they call criteria pollutants in the Clean Air Act.

1587
02:22:27,130 --> 02:22:35,310
The Clean Air Act is promigated on preserving the health and welfare of the citizen.

1588
02:22:35,910 --> 02:22:42,930
So the U.S. Clean Air Act has limits on those five criteria pollutants.

1589
02:22:42,930 --> 02:22:47,230
South Coast Air Quality Management District is in charge of the Air Base and which

1590
02:22:47,230 --> 02:22:51,990
LaHover is in, and they've set some pretty low thresholds, particularly for

1591
02:22:51,990 --> 02:22:58,250
knocks at 55 pounds, and when you look at city wide, it's easy to exceed 55 pounds

1592
02:22:58,250 --> 02:22:59,070
cumulatively.

1593
02:23:00,210 --> 02:23:08,470
So it's typical for a project, the size of a general plan, for the city, the size of

1594
02:23:08,470 --> 02:23:12,230
LaHover to be over a threshold of 55 pounds knocks.

1595
02:23:12,230 --> 02:23:16,150
That doesn't mean that the air quality is getting worse in the

1596
02:23:16,150 --> 02:23:16,430
harbor.

1597
02:23:16,910 --> 02:23:21,330
Actually, I think a lot of the policies that you have in the climate action

1598
02:23:21,330 --> 02:23:26,610
plan will improve their quality over time as well as the South Coast Air

1599
02:23:26,610 --> 02:23:31,350
Quality Management District's Air Quality Management Plan is over time reducing

1600
02:23:31,350 --> 02:23:35,750
air pollution here, but it's still over the limits for the clean air act.

1601
02:23:39,360 --> 02:23:40,440
Thank you.

1602
02:23:40,440 --> 02:23:46,320
So, for air quality, we will have to, or we prepared a statement of a variety of considerations.

1603
02:23:46,800 --> 02:23:51,440
So, you'll weigh that weighs the environmental impacts against the benefits of the project.

1604
02:23:52,200 --> 02:23:58,800
That will be adopted along with the findings when you decide whether to certify the environmental impact report.

1605
02:24:02,510 --> 02:24:09,170
Whenever you have a significant impact, or whenever you find a significant impact within the environmental impact report,

1606
02:24:09,170 --> 02:24:12,190
you have to look at alternatives.

1607
02:24:13,050 --> 02:24:19,210
We looked at three alternatives, and the EIR, one of them, is required by state law, which

1608
02:24:19,210 --> 02:24:21,590
is the no project alternative.

1609
02:24:22,030 --> 02:24:29,910
In this case, it would be continuation of the adopted 2020 general plan.

1610
02:24:30,970 --> 02:24:36,370
So we would compare the build out of the adopted general plan to the project.

1611
02:24:37,490 --> 02:24:44,590
We also looked at a reduced intensity alternative, and that was to look at the reducing

1612
02:24:44,590 --> 02:24:50,390
some of the air quality impacts, and for the reduced intensity alternative, we looked at

1613
02:24:50,390 --> 02:24:54,990
reducing the development intensity by 20%.

1614
02:24:54,990 --> 02:24:59,970
The third alternative was a reduced residential and increased non-resistant non-resistant.

1615
02:25:02,140 --> 02:25:08,120
Reducing both reducing residential by 10 percent, and increasing non-residential by 10 percent.

1616
02:25:14,210 --> 02:25:20,170
Really quick, I wanted to point out, we received eight comment letters during the public review period,

1617
02:25:20,330 --> 02:25:26,990
and we responded to those. We sent the responses to all of the commenters prior to the planning commission hearing.

1618
02:25:27,350 --> 02:25:32,410
We received one late comment from the State Department of Forestry and Fire Protection.

1619
02:25:32,410 --> 02:25:37,590
And, however, basically, they reviewed the document and they said that they had no comment

1620
02:25:37,590 --> 02:25:38,490
on the EIR.

1621
02:25:39,250 --> 02:25:41,590
So, there was no further follow-up that we needed for that.

1622
02:25:42,050 --> 02:25:43,610
And now, what are you going to wrap up?

1623
02:25:43,790 --> 02:25:44,110
Anything else?

1624
02:25:44,210 --> 02:25:46,170
Before you go there, I'd like to ask you a question.

1625
02:25:46,750 --> 02:25:48,970
Did we get any comments from the school districts?

1626
02:25:49,110 --> 02:25:54,230
Because I noticed in here, when I was reading through here, we talked about an increase of

1627
02:25:54,230 --> 02:26:02,390
5,700 students, and you have the sense, the construction of new schools may be needed in order

1628
02:26:02,390 --> 02:26:08,350
Why not, I don't know, or anybody would build a new school in the harbour, but we got a lot of vacant classrooms in the harbour city school district.

1629
02:26:08,470 --> 02:26:15,370
That's why I was headed is, did you have any communication with school district and talked to them about these numbers?

1630
02:26:17,070 --> 02:26:27,850
The, um, the Fullerton High Unified School District sent a letter during the initial study period, and then also during the EIR period.

1631
02:26:27,850 --> 02:26:31,670
We responded to those comments and sent them our responses.

1632
02:26:31,670 --> 02:26:38,110
We also contacted them as we are writing the analysis for this school impacts.

1633
02:26:38,810 --> 02:26:43,650
And receiving anything from the old joint or the Harvard City School elementary schools.

1634
02:26:44,110 --> 02:26:49,550
We didn't receive comment letters, but they were contacted in order to do our analysis for the EIR.

1635
02:26:49,950 --> 02:26:51,490
Okay. Thank you.

1636
02:26:51,670 --> 02:26:52,990
They need more students.

1637
02:26:56,550 --> 02:27:03,590
Finally, for the record, just in consideration your action tonight, the Planning Commission

1638
02:27:03,590 --> 02:27:09,830
reviewed the same documents had the same presentation you've had here tonight on the plan

1639
02:27:09,830 --> 02:27:15,450
and the four documents that you are considering here tonight and the four actions that

1640
02:27:15,450 --> 02:27:21,370
they took on December 9th, where to certify the IAR, recommend your certification of the IAR,

1641
02:27:21,370 --> 02:27:33,030
Recommend adoption of the plan. Recommend adoption of the 2014-2021 housing element and finally they recommended adoption of the climate action

1642
02:27:33,030 --> 02:27:38,570
I see the climate action plan that concludes our presentation. If you have any other council members

1643
02:27:39,290 --> 02:27:44,970
Questions or again public comments, we'll be we're here to respond any of the questions

1644
02:27:44,970 --> 02:27:50,990
Yeah, just for clarification the planning commission heard this presentation and its entirety as well

1645
02:27:51,370 --> 02:27:52,770
They heard it in its entirety.

1646
02:27:54,430 --> 02:27:55,870
They asked fewer questions.

1647
02:27:59,570 --> 02:28:01,890
Is that the long form or the short form?

1648
02:28:03,990 --> 02:28:07,430
I think the presentation was the same length without questions.

1649
02:28:08,850 --> 02:28:09,710
Any other questions?

1650
02:28:11,230 --> 02:28:11,450
Can.

1651
02:28:12,570 --> 02:28:13,870
Just a comment.

1652
02:28:14,750 --> 02:28:19,450
I think the general plan update is a very exciting for our community.

1653
02:28:19,450 --> 02:28:25,770
This will offer an opportunity for exciting new projects, which will make the heart of an even stronger community.

1654
02:28:27,930 --> 02:28:29,310
Would the audience be invited to answer?

1655
02:28:29,310 --> 02:28:32,470
Yeah, that's after we're done if we have any questions.

1656
02:28:32,630 --> 02:28:33,430
Okay, we're done with questions.

1657
02:28:33,670 --> 02:28:35,430
Comments will get a chance after the problem.

1658
02:28:36,210 --> 02:28:39,350
All right, then at this time, we will open the public hearing,

1659
02:28:39,870 --> 02:28:41,410
which then we go back to the rules.

1660
02:28:41,450 --> 02:28:44,230
You have three minutes, watch your lights.

1661
02:28:45,470 --> 02:28:45,510
And...

1662
02:28:45,510 --> 02:28:46,310
No, there's no limit.

1663
02:28:46,570 --> 02:28:47,610
There's no limit.

1664
02:28:48,410 --> 02:28:50,170
Oh, I tried to get a limit.

1665
02:28:50,170 --> 02:28:52,370
Okay, they can talk as long as they want.

1666
02:28:53,410 --> 02:28:54,790
All right, talk as long as you want.

1667
02:28:55,170 --> 02:28:57,050
The only thing I'd ask is don't be redundant

1668
02:28:57,050 --> 02:29:00,750
as somebody's talked about an issue we've heard at once.

1669
02:29:02,150 --> 02:29:04,070
So, for all of those of you speak,

1670
02:29:04,130 --> 02:29:06,210
please give your name and address for the record.

1671
02:29:06,730 --> 02:29:08,530
Like I said, don't be redundant on your testimony.

1672
02:29:08,810 --> 02:29:10,310
The only reason we'd like your name,

1673
02:29:10,370 --> 02:29:12,810
the number is in case we need to get back to you.

1674
02:29:14,110 --> 02:29:17,090
So, the first ones I would like to hear from

1675
02:29:17,090 --> 02:29:20,690
as those that support adoption of this plan,

1676
02:29:21,010 --> 02:29:22,430
the most that may be our neutral,

1677
02:29:22,630 --> 02:29:24,150
and those that are in opposition

1678
02:29:24,150 --> 02:29:28,130
or have issues with it will go after the first group.

1679
02:29:29,430 --> 02:29:30,170
So let's go.

1680
02:29:35,180 --> 02:29:36,760
Papatris, Southern California,

1681
02:29:37,060 --> 02:29:40,540
Addison, 1325, South Grand, Sanana.

1682
02:29:41,700 --> 02:29:44,760
And the only reason I come before you and Mayor

1683
02:29:44,760 --> 02:29:48,280
and ask for your indulgence is to apologize.

1684
02:29:48,280 --> 02:29:55,020
Edison was well notified about your EIR and unfortunately it was during a time we were

1685
02:29:55,020 --> 02:29:59,600
changing some employees around and it got lost in the shuffle.

1686
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:08,160
I got a panic call at 515 tonight. Oh, are you going to go to the council meeting? I suggest I am on my way right now.

1687
02:30:08,800 --> 02:30:29,860
So I only want to put into the record that I will have a letter to you by Friday that will be telling you that the only concern was that in chapter 3 under your mobility and circulation, regarding the widening of certain intersections of which are not totally identified or anything else.

1688
02:30:29,860 --> 02:30:37,580
But what we do is a general statement stating that if we have transmission facilities involved at that point in time,

1689
02:30:37,720 --> 02:30:48,520
once we have actual plans in front of us, there may be a need for us to do relocations and doing work on our facilities.

1690
02:30:48,840 --> 02:30:57,420
So it's just a courtesy that I wanted to make sure I put that into the record tonight, and again, a apologize for not being on time.

1691
02:30:58,540 --> 02:30:59,040
Thank

1692
02:31:04,540 --> 02:31:05,040
you.

1693
02:31:05,140 --> 02:31:06,000
Good evening Mayor Beamish.

1694
02:31:06,240 --> 02:31:06,780
Members of the Council.

1695
02:31:06,820 --> 02:31:07,960
My name is Ron Lebs.

1696
02:31:08,180 --> 02:31:10,940
I'm the Assistant Superintendent for Business with the Fullerton

1697
02:31:10,940 --> 02:31:12,480
Joint Union High School District.

1698
02:31:14,380 --> 02:31:18,320
I'm not here to comment for against, but what I would like to do is

1699
02:31:18,320 --> 02:31:23,100
come in Mr. Hackett and his staff on a significant amount of work and a

1700
02:31:23,100 --> 02:31:26,720
rather large undertaking working for another local government agency.

1701
02:31:26,720 --> 02:31:30,100
I know how much work and energy goes into something of this magnitude.

1702
02:31:30,100 --> 02:31:36,240
I want to thank them and thank the City Council and the City of Haber for engaging us in the process allowing us to participate.

1703
02:31:37,360 --> 02:31:40,660
We did respond in writing and those comments were incorporated.

1704
02:31:41,420 --> 02:31:49,560
What was really interesting I would like to commend staff on this is that we took this to our board of trustees provided them with the information about the general planned update.

1705
02:31:49,780 --> 02:31:54,060
They gave us some comments and we sent those in. Those were incorporated into the document.

1706
02:31:54,060 --> 02:31:58,720
And so I want to thank Mr. Hack and staff again for taking those into consideration.

1707
02:32:00,820 --> 02:32:05,080
With that, we also had the opportunity to attend some of the planning meetings that

1708
02:32:05,080 --> 02:32:11,540
took place over the summer and felt very welcomed and engaged in that process.

1709
02:32:12,560 --> 02:32:18,780
So just in summary, I want to thank the city for the opportunity to participate in the

1710
02:32:18,780 --> 02:32:19,260
process.

1711
02:32:19,580 --> 02:32:23,020
We were well included and if you have any questions, I'd be happy to address those.

1712
02:32:23,020 --> 02:32:26,980
But I want to thank you, and particularly I George G. O'Carris, we always had a wonderful

1713
02:32:26,980 --> 02:32:31,860
working relationship with him. He meets with our city manager, at least almost every

1714
02:32:31,860 --> 02:32:36,320
month I think, and thank you for that good relationship we have with your school district.

1715
02:32:36,620 --> 02:32:38,040
Thank you very much.

1716
02:32:44,490 --> 02:32:48,170
Here, Mayor Beamish, and members of the City Council, I'm Larry Lizard, and the business

1717
02:32:48,170 --> 02:32:53,710
address is 110 East Walnut Avenue in Fullerton. I'm here this evening as I've been throughout

1718
02:32:53,710 --> 02:33:00,030
the process representing the property owner of that parcel that came into question earlier on

1719
02:33:00,030 --> 02:33:04,750
the north side of the railroad between Harbor Bull of Art and Cyprus.

1720
02:33:06,290 --> 02:33:10,550
The property owner did make the request early on that it be modified from light industrial

1721
02:33:11,230 --> 02:33:18,090
to a multifamily housing and the staff and the G-PAC committee and the citizens have reviewed

1722
02:33:18,090 --> 02:33:24,110
this and recommended that indeed it be redisignated to a medium density.

1723
02:33:25,650 --> 02:33:31,950
That was analyzed in the general plan, it was analyzed in the EIR, it was recommended

1724
02:33:31,950 --> 02:33:35,370
for approval by the GPAC committee and by the planning commission.

1725
02:33:36,490 --> 02:33:42,490
We've always seen this as a transitional use site between the industrial to the south and

1726
02:33:42,490 --> 02:33:44,790
the single family residential to the north.

1727
02:33:45,530 --> 02:33:51,170
Additionally, you folks have been contemplating a bicycle path along the railroad trap.

1728
02:33:51,850 --> 02:33:57,830
Well, if this were to maintain a light industrial, right here bike or going on a hike

1729
02:33:57,830 --> 02:34:02,490
through industrial properties, isn't always the most inviting and encouraging for folks.

1730
02:34:02,890 --> 02:34:09,970
We've always maintained that to put residential on this property as a sense of security on that trail

1731
02:34:09,970 --> 02:34:11,730
because there's eyes on the trail.

1732
02:34:11,730 --> 02:34:17,030
people know that there's other folks out there and they're not isolated in an industrial property.

1733
02:34:17,990 --> 02:34:24,830
So we're here to request that change to maintain the recommendations of the G-PAC, the staff, and the planning commission.

1734
02:34:26,830 --> 02:34:32,950
I've been involved in general plan processes from the public and the private side for 34 years now.

1735
02:34:33,510 --> 02:34:40,210
And the process that your city has gone through has been the best that I've witnessed or participated in in 34 years.

1736
02:34:40,210 --> 02:34:47,170
Your staff has the heart of Lyons, how they maintain this, and how they've led this process through.

1737
02:34:47,730 --> 02:34:50,210
Your citizens were always involved.

1738
02:34:50,750 --> 02:34:57,390
Your GPAC committee reviewed reams and reams of information and asked the good questions

1739
02:34:57,390 --> 02:34:59,890
and acted very judiciously on the request.

1740
02:35:01,200 --> 02:35:09,820
And the wisdom of this city to bring in woody tether to lead the technical studies of this general plan.

1741
02:35:10,580 --> 02:35:18,160
If there's nothing else that you ever did, you are in a position to come up with the optimal general plan on that process.

1742
02:35:18,820 --> 02:35:21,980
So I thank you and I stand ready to answer any questions.

1743
02:35:21,980 --> 02:35:22,940
So you're happy.

1744
02:35:23,360 --> 02:35:25,920
I'm very happy with the city of L'Habra.

1745
02:35:26,320 --> 02:35:30,480
I have to say that Mr. Lazar was there so often that I

1746
02:35:30,480 --> 02:35:32,480
when he wasn't there, which was rarely.

1747
02:35:33,180 --> 02:35:38,200
And one particular day, I had gone to go get a snow shave.

1748
02:35:38,280 --> 02:35:41,840
I have a snow shave, a snow cone, or something like that.

1749
02:35:42,080 --> 02:35:44,140
And I saw him in his wife, and I thought,

1750
02:35:44,560 --> 02:35:46,300
am I missing a G-pack meeting?

1751
02:35:46,300 --> 02:35:49,040
Because that's the only time I saw him all the time.

1752
02:35:49,040 --> 02:35:53,820
I don't know where to see her do enjoy that's something that's no shave as well.

1753
02:35:54,540 --> 02:35:57,840
So thank you very much for participating every meeting that we had.

1754
02:35:57,880 --> 02:36:04,460
These kind of processes do afford people to discover your town and discover things to do here in your town

1755
02:36:04,460 --> 02:36:07,120
and you become loyal customers of the town.

1756
02:36:07,480 --> 02:36:08,520
Thank you for coming in from Florida.

1757
02:36:09,340 --> 02:36:12,820
One other thing, you have great books for sale at the library.

1758
02:36:13,660 --> 02:36:16,120
I found some real treasures there over the last two years.

1759
02:36:16,340 --> 02:36:17,040
Thank you.

1760
02:36:22,650 --> 02:36:28,030
Mayer Beamish and City Council members, I'm here as my name is Sandy Baltis.

1761
02:36:28,190 --> 02:36:32,570
I'm here as the President of the La Haber City School District School Board.

1762
02:36:32,930 --> 02:36:37,470
I just want to thank you on behalf of the school board for everybody, all of your hard

1763
02:36:37,470 --> 02:36:39,310
work and all the wonderful things.

1764
02:36:39,730 --> 02:36:44,250
If we have a great community, we have a great school district, and so I do appreciate very

1765
02:36:44,250 --> 02:36:48,790
much that we are included in it, that we've been a part of this and just thank you very

1766
02:36:56,360 --> 02:37:00,760
Mayor Beamish and City Council members, thank you for the privilege of letting me speak.

1767
02:37:01,460 --> 02:37:02,940
My name is Laura Stacey.

1768
02:37:03,320 --> 02:37:09,700
I live at 1-4-1 El Rancho Drive in La Habra, and I have been a resident of La Habra since

1769
02:37:09,700 --> 02:37:18,940
the mid-1960s and my current residents over 40 years, I have a neighbor property that is listed

1770
02:37:18,940 --> 02:37:22,260
on the letter that I received, which brings me here.

1771
02:37:23,260 --> 02:37:27,560
The neighbor is the Church of the Master, Lutheran Church.

1772
02:37:28,020 --> 02:37:30,160
Next to that is the Masonic Temple.

1773
02:37:30,460 --> 02:37:33,660
Next to that is the Gospel Presbyterian Church,

1774
02:37:33,860 --> 02:37:36,940
and then some businesses along there.

1775
02:37:37,000 --> 02:37:40,780
That parcel has been in the past,

1776
02:37:40,780 --> 02:37:50,380
designated as a commercial professional office with a special condition, conditional permits

1777
02:37:50,380 --> 02:37:55,280
to the churches and probably I'm not sure but probably to the Masonic Temple.

1778
02:37:56,180 --> 02:38:03,860
Now in this letter and on the back of the map, it's showing that the change is indicated to be made

1779
02:38:03,860 --> 02:38:08,680
residential multi-family, 25 to 30 units per acre.

1780
02:38:09,800 --> 02:38:12,320
I feel that this is a unique situation.

1781
02:38:12,520 --> 02:38:15,360
You've got three entities, the two churches

1782
02:38:15,360 --> 02:38:17,900
in the Masonic Temple that have been there for many years.

1783
02:38:17,920 --> 02:38:21,200
They don't have vacancies like has been prevalent

1784
02:38:21,200 --> 02:38:24,480
in the city and in those at the end of that property.

1785
02:38:25,140 --> 02:38:29,160
So I feel to designate a change in zoning.

1786
02:38:29,380 --> 02:38:33,360
I'm using that word is not inappropriate at this time.

1787
02:38:33,360 --> 02:38:39,560
And I would ask that the City Council and the committee review that one parcel and look at it again.

1788
02:38:40,760 --> 02:38:46,200
I would like to request that it stays the same or some other venue, not the multi-residential.

1789
02:38:46,800 --> 02:38:48,040
Thank you so much.

1790
02:38:48,740 --> 02:38:49,480
Thank you.

1791
02:38:52,380 --> 02:38:54,740
A quick question of staff on that property.

1792
02:38:54,880 --> 02:38:55,720
It's my understanding.

1793
02:38:56,000 --> 02:39:01,340
Again, that will be not conforming to the churches and the Masonic Temple can stay there

1794
02:39:01,340 --> 02:39:01,740
correct.

1795
02:39:02,840 --> 02:39:03,380
I'm sorry.

1796
02:39:03,580 --> 02:39:04,560
I was talking to staff.

1797
02:39:04,560 --> 02:39:10,720
I wanted to clarify that the churches and the Masonic temple can stay and operate.

1798
02:39:12,440 --> 02:39:14,900
They would not be considered legal non-couparming.

1799
02:39:15,280 --> 02:39:19,280
Those uses are permitted by conditionally is printed in the residential zone, so they

1800
02:39:19,280 --> 02:39:23,640
could continue to function, they could expand, subject to their conditionally use print.

1801
02:39:24,300 --> 02:39:29,060
Yeah, the church just spent over a million dollars in doing a remodel there, so they're not

1802
02:39:29,060 --> 02:39:33,240
going anywhere in the Thunnic Log just in going anywhere, that would just be the event

1803
02:39:33,240 --> 02:39:37,320
of if they were decided to sell the property and at that point it would come to the city council

1804
02:39:37,320 --> 02:39:38,020
planning commission.

1805
02:39:39,000 --> 02:39:41,620
So, you know, you won't see anything going on there for quite a while.

1806
02:39:41,960 --> 02:39:42,500
Years and years and years.

1807
02:39:42,660 --> 02:39:44,000
We're not chasing them out.

1808
02:39:44,120 --> 02:39:47,100
But I know there are, in fact, many of them we're here in the audience earlier today.

1809
02:39:47,980 --> 02:39:49,860
And they're here to stay the Korean Church.

1810
02:39:51,300 --> 02:39:56,420
And Carlos, just to be clear, they are not subject to the non-conforming restrictions

1811
02:39:56,860 --> 02:39:58,920
of some of these other sites we've talked about tonight.

1812
02:39:58,920 --> 02:39:59,960
they actually had a certain

1813
02:40:00,000 --> 02:40:03,320
And other protections provided to them under the COP correct?

1814
02:40:03,600 --> 02:40:23,480
That's correct. As we re-work the zoning code to fit into the land regulations, the establishments of churches and facilities like the Masonic are permitted in residential zone subject to condition of use permits, which is the same requirement in the commercial professional zone.

1815
02:40:23,480 --> 02:40:24,740
Okay, thank you.

1816
02:40:24,800 --> 02:40:30,300
And if they had a fire or a loss of the bill, they could rebuild.

1817
02:40:31,460 --> 02:40:32,240
It's not like the other.

1818
02:40:32,240 --> 02:40:33,580
It can do it in a situation, right?

1819
02:40:34,660 --> 02:40:35,620
That is correct.

1820
02:40:35,980 --> 02:40:40,360
They could demolish and come in with a new plan for a new church.

1821
02:40:40,440 --> 02:40:40,720
Yeah.

1822
02:40:41,120 --> 02:40:44,740
Subject to the condition they used to permit that they operate under.

1823
02:40:45,960 --> 02:40:47,300
Sorry to interrupt you there.

1824
02:40:47,620 --> 02:40:48,480
You can go now.

1825
02:40:49,560 --> 02:40:52,880
You know, we were going to dance there, I thought, that's a good evening.

1826
02:40:52,880 --> 02:40:57,460
Mayor and City Council. My name is Lee Deerly and I represent the LLI Enterprise. I'm

1827
02:40:57,460 --> 02:41:06,540
with your boulevard. I represent the owner of the property on Imperial 441 to 521,

1828
02:41:07,000 --> 02:41:12,080
which has been zoning has been changed from industrial to multi-residential.

1829
02:41:14,260 --> 02:41:15,520
There are difficult

1830
02:41:15,520 --> 02:41:24,780
issues with this is a 11-unit property. And there are difficult issues with regards to

1831
02:41:24,780 --> 02:41:34,060
leases. I cannot renew their leases out of consideration that if I lose a portion of the

1832
02:41:34,060 --> 02:41:43,400
tenant or a building burns, it cannot be rebuilt. If an industrial tenant leaves, now this

1833
02:41:43,400 --> 02:41:49,320
This is my interpretation, correct me please, if an industrial tenant leaves and the building

1834
02:41:49,320 --> 02:41:54,540
is vacant for over a year and during the economic slowdown, I had that issue.

1835
02:41:55,240 --> 02:41:56,760
I cannot release it.

1836
02:41:57,120 --> 02:42:02,340
Therefore, as a representative of the property owner, I have to put these tenants on month

1837
02:42:02,340 --> 02:42:03,560
to month leases.

1838
02:42:05,280 --> 02:42:09,060
And when something, when the shoe falls, they have to be evicted.

1839
02:42:09,740 --> 02:42:16,100
There are tenets that have been there since the 1970-1979.

1840
02:42:16,880 --> 02:42:19,940
These guys have several of the tenets here.

1841
02:42:20,420 --> 02:42:26,860
They have a lot of time and energy and effort building their businesses there.

1842
02:42:27,520 --> 02:42:31,320
And as a property owner, you tell me how I can renew their leases.

1843
02:42:31,840 --> 02:42:33,000
I don't know how I can.

1844
02:42:33,000 --> 02:42:33,580
I

1845
02:42:37,360 --> 02:42:38,880
believe we won't have an impact across.

1846
02:42:42,970 --> 02:42:44,930
So what's the current zone in there?

1847
02:42:45,330 --> 02:42:48,650
The current land use designation there is light industrial.

1848
02:42:50,290 --> 02:42:54,970
And so the use that the changes to multi-family, right?

1849
02:42:55,250 --> 02:43:00,610
So what would happen is all of the industrial uses there would be legal not conforming.

1850
02:43:01,050 --> 02:43:07,450
The question becomes if there's a unit that's vacant for a year and it's part of an industrial

1851
02:43:07,450 --> 02:43:17,890
center does that mean I can no longer lease out that particular unit. And how we would

1852
02:43:17,890 --> 02:43:23,570
interpret the non-conforming section is that we are looking at the entire property if it's

1853
02:43:23,570 --> 02:43:30,950
an industrial park and the industrial park is performing and functioning that we wouldn't

1854
02:43:30,950 --> 02:43:35,310
penalize the property owner because if particular unit hasn't been occupied for a year

1855
02:43:35,310 --> 02:43:43,530
we're looking at the entire site, in regards to the central way of the carlison, it said the

1856
02:43:43,530 --> 02:43:47,310
actually advantageous for him to have long-term leases on the unit.

1857
02:43:50,520 --> 02:43:52,600
Yeah, so I think that's what he's looking for.

1858
02:43:53,960 --> 02:43:55,860
The other, in that instance, it works.

1859
02:43:56,980 --> 02:44:06,880
The other question is, for example, if you have industrial park that consists of a number of buildings.

1860
02:44:06,880 --> 02:44:10,340
and one of the buildings burned down.

1861
02:44:13,060 --> 02:44:16,460
Does that mean that that particular building

1862
02:44:16,460 --> 02:44:20,740
cannot be reconstructive, which then potentially impacts

1863
02:44:21,200 --> 02:44:24,720
the economic viability of the particular site?

1864
02:44:25,820 --> 02:44:28,600
I think that's one of the things that we need to look at

1865
02:44:28,600 --> 02:44:31,280
and my thought at least would be that we look again

1866
02:44:31,280 --> 02:44:34,640
at the industrial part and how it functions.

1867
02:44:35,480 --> 02:44:37,640
The way the non-performing section is written

1868
02:44:37,640 --> 02:44:42,700
It looks at the market value that's assessed to the building.

1869
02:44:43,640 --> 02:44:45,620
My thought is in this particular situation.

1870
02:44:45,940 --> 02:44:48,540
We'd be looking at the market value of the property,

1871
02:44:48,760 --> 02:44:50,000
what's on the site.

1872
02:44:50,900 --> 02:44:56,080
And again, if the cost to rebuild that is less than 50% of the market value,

1873
02:44:56,200 --> 02:44:58,020
then that can be reconstructed.

1874
02:44:58,180 --> 02:44:59,980
We only get into a situation where...

1875
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:08,020
If the value of the reconstruction exceeds 50% of the assessed value for the property that it would not be allowed to be rebuilt.

1876
02:45:08,540 --> 02:45:13,100
But certainly at that point, it can come to the city council and we can make a further determination at that point.

1877
02:45:13,580 --> 02:45:17,680
It is a section of the zoning code that could be brought back to the city council.

1878
02:45:18,980 --> 02:45:23,740
So with regard to Jim's remarks, say there's an earthquake, the whole place goes flat.

1879
02:45:24,580 --> 02:45:28,100
He wants to rebuild industrial units because of the change in zoning.

1880
02:45:28,100 --> 02:45:38,700
He can't, because it's going to be more than 50%, however he could come to the city council who we could then amend the general plan and change it back to the zone.

1881
02:45:39,080 --> 02:45:40,900
He can always light industrial.

1882
02:45:42,880 --> 02:45:44,740
But isn't there a cost to that?

1883
02:45:45,980 --> 02:45:48,260
I mean, I mean, a time delay certainly.

1884
02:45:49,440 --> 02:45:51,480
But isn't there a zoning designation?

1885
02:45:51,480 --> 02:45:58,380
and we could give that a mixed use or something that would allow for residential or the current

1886
02:45:58,380 --> 02:45:59,320
uses there.

1887
02:46:00,060 --> 02:46:05,480
We don't have a designation that allows for a mix of industrial and residential because

1888
02:46:05,480 --> 02:46:08,840
of the type of uses that are typically associated with industrial uses.

1889
02:46:09,140 --> 02:46:11,480
You try to buffer residential for them in industrial use.

1890
02:46:11,540 --> 02:46:16,520
I don't think it's a desire of anybody here on the city council to go and meet Victor and

1891
02:46:16,520 --> 02:46:23,860
have it in that neighborhood and in your section there. So I certainly, again, we will be looking

1892
02:46:23,860 --> 02:46:29,560
at all of the provisions within the Zoni Code and that includes the non-conforming sections

1893
02:46:30,280 --> 02:46:35,700
and realizing the argument that's been presented in regards to industrial parks and how they

1894
02:46:35,700 --> 02:46:46,500
function differently than a sole business operator that's one building. We'll investigate how we

1895
02:46:46,500 --> 02:46:51,040
not conforming and when properties require the transition over to the

1896
02:46:51,040 --> 02:46:52,060
landest destination.

1897
02:46:52,500 --> 02:46:55,920
But do you have there now a laundry mat, a liquor store, and they...

1898
02:46:56,620 --> 02:46:57,620
No, no, no.

1899
02:46:57,860 --> 02:47:01,580
At this time, we have a 12,000 square foot body and...

1900
02:47:01,580 --> 02:47:02,160
Yeah, I have the street.

1901
02:47:02,320 --> 02:47:03,960
I was thinking to go to your other property.

1902
02:47:05,220 --> 02:47:06,940
We have a automotive.

1903
02:47:07,900 --> 02:47:08,180
Yeah, Mac.

1904
02:47:09,440 --> 02:47:14,300
Just to clarify, is there one...

1905
02:47:14,300 --> 02:47:19,320
Is the parcel all together or are there multiple parcels that make up the industrial part?

1906
02:47:19,540 --> 02:47:20,240
It's one parcel.

1907
02:47:20,840 --> 02:47:23,940
Okay. So it has three buildings.

1908
02:47:25,880 --> 02:47:30,380
I just want to ask that to clarify that given that the parcel is all together presently,

1909
02:47:31,380 --> 02:47:35,160
I think Carlos is correct in saying that if you had one building go down,

1910
02:47:35,320 --> 02:47:37,820
the whole thing would be looked at as the whole parcel.

1911
02:47:38,600 --> 02:47:43,500
And that one building is probably not going to be more than one third of the market value.

1912
02:47:43,500 --> 02:47:45,600
So you still would be able to rebuild it.

1913
02:47:45,660 --> 02:47:46,800
I'm just sort of...

1914
02:47:46,800 --> 02:47:48,920
So then could that one building be rebuilt?

1915
02:47:49,460 --> 02:47:50,820
Yes, that's what Carlos said.

1916
02:47:50,980 --> 02:47:54,040
OK, then what I need to get that in writing,

1917
02:47:54,420 --> 02:47:55,980
so I can tell the property owner,

1918
02:47:56,360 --> 02:47:59,720
and we can make sound business decision on leases.

1919
02:48:00,140 --> 02:48:01,500
With all the part of the general plan,

1920
02:48:01,680 --> 02:48:03,920
so you can grab a copy of the general plan

1921
02:48:03,920 --> 02:48:05,960
and it's, you got a record here.

1922
02:48:06,220 --> 02:48:07,260
You get to copy the DVD.

1923
02:48:07,900 --> 02:48:09,680
Well, I think he's going to need more than I think

1924
02:48:09,680 --> 02:48:11,140
he's going to need Carlos and Mike to...

1925
02:48:11,140 --> 02:48:12,040
Mike and Carlos.

1926
02:48:12,680 --> 02:48:21,440
Mike, gentlemen, staff, we were talking about and the letter of the explanation with regards

1927
02:48:21,440 --> 02:48:22,220
to his property.

1928
02:48:22,480 --> 02:48:25,080
So there's three buildings on his one parcel.

1929
02:48:25,620 --> 02:48:30,580
One goes down, we're saying that within the sense of the less than 50% of value, so he should

1930
02:48:30,580 --> 02:48:32,320
be able to rebuild that building.

1931
02:48:32,940 --> 02:48:37,520
So two things I think we need from you is one, clarify that for the property owner.

1932
02:48:37,700 --> 02:48:40,340
So they know exactly what the rules are.

1933
02:48:40,340 --> 02:48:47,240
And then the second thing is you're going to investigate how this would work and potentially

1934
02:48:47,980 --> 02:48:52,180
maybe a different zoning to get what we want should they sell the property.

1935
02:48:52,880 --> 02:48:59,320
What we're committing to is looking at the non-conforming section so that it better defines situations

1936
02:48:59,320 --> 02:49:06,260
where you have properties with multi-buildings and how you determine whether it exceeds 50%

1937
02:49:06,260 --> 02:49:08,500
of the market value or reconstruction.

1938
02:49:08,500 --> 02:49:10,040
Okay, so you can do two things.

1939
02:49:10,200 --> 02:49:13,020
You can do, like I'll let her explain exactly what it is.

1940
02:49:13,280 --> 02:49:16,820
Why don't you research that and kind of work with the honor in this representative?

1941
02:49:17,040 --> 02:49:17,520
That's correct.

1942
02:49:18,700 --> 02:49:19,420
All right.

1943
02:49:19,840 --> 02:49:23,720
Yeah, anything you can do to help reduce the uncertainty, I think, is what we're looking for.

1944
02:49:24,100 --> 02:49:29,940
Would it be better if we just change the designation back to latin industrial?

1945
02:49:30,720 --> 02:49:36,740
I think that there's a concern from the property owner and the tenants that they don't

1946
02:49:36,740 --> 02:49:41,260
I didn't want to be in the situation of legal not conforming.

1947
02:49:41,880 --> 02:49:46,860
And I mean, I look, I wasn't on the GPAC committee, I don't want to, I don't know how

1948
02:49:46,860 --> 02:49:49,620
much some of you guys spent on this or what the discussion was,

1949
02:49:51,880 --> 02:49:53,960
but I mean, do we really want

1950
02:49:53,960 --> 02:49:59,640
have that zone for a residential, I mean, maybe Rosa Mike, you could.

1951
02:50:00,270 --> 02:50:24,110
Tell me what the big thought process was. At the G on the G pack about why making that change. I mean, it seems to me that driving down Imperial that those uses are consistent with what you see on Imperial. I know there are apartments to the west or housing, but I don't think that that stands up particularly is something that we need to be changed in my view.

1952
02:50:24,110 --> 02:50:31,130
I think it was because of the residents to the north and the south to make continuity there,

1953
02:50:31,330 --> 02:50:33,150
but maybe staff can address that.

1954
02:50:33,650 --> 02:50:38,250
Well, if I might, I think in Carlos, you can correct me if I were on or Mike.

1955
02:50:38,670 --> 02:50:44,990
Part of the issue when the G-pack looked at this was the positioning of this site relative

1956
02:50:44,990 --> 02:50:46,910
to residential all surrounding it.

1957
02:50:47,810 --> 02:50:52,690
So if we're able to provide some guidance to the property owner with respect to continuing

1958
02:50:52,690 --> 02:50:59,030
to operate the property in the means of is now as far as light industrial and clarify how that

1959
02:50:59,030 --> 02:51:03,450
property can continue doing that as a non-conforming use in the future. It protects the property

1960
02:51:03,450 --> 02:51:10,510
under to be able to at least these sites out long term. On the second hand, it does increase potentially

1961
02:51:10,510 --> 02:51:16,770
their land value because it's now a residential underlying residential use. So at some point in the

1962
02:51:16,770 --> 02:51:22,490
future, the property owner may decide residential becomes a more attractive option for

1963
02:51:22,490 --> 02:51:32,350
a long-term development of that site, and then it fits into that entire area with the purpose of residential that's surrounding it to the south and north and the west to the west side of that.

1964
02:51:32,710 --> 02:51:35,990
So I'm think, and Mike, maybe you can give me a little more clarification.

1965
02:51:36,310 --> 02:51:47,130
I think that's the Jim, but the voice that doesn't get heard at the table are the folks that are sitting out there who are the leases that ultimately they have businesses at stake.

1966
02:51:47,130 --> 02:51:55,690
And the property owner could determine that ultimately it's more valuable to me to boot them out and put residential in there.

1967
02:51:56,470 --> 02:52:08,590
So the question is, do we want to make the modification in order to provide more options for housing and a more consistent use on the highway?

1968
02:52:10,350 --> 02:52:15,610
do we want to give the property owner the maximum flexibility so that he or she can continue

1969
02:52:15,610 --> 02:52:21,390
to lease the property as is. But all of that is a conversation between the city and the property

1970
02:52:21,390 --> 02:52:30,050
owner. And I hear a concern from the business owners who lease that property that ultimately

1971
02:52:30,050 --> 02:52:35,750
they could be paying the price for it. And so that does raise another issue. Sure.

1972
02:52:37,450 --> 02:52:45,410
Well, I think Jim's remarks is that if I'm the property owner and I can add value to my property which is my understanding

1973
02:52:45,410 --> 02:52:59,050
If you go residential, it could be 50% greater in value than a light industrial commercial, but with regards to the tenants, sounds like with our conditions you'd be able to enter in the long-term leases.

1974
02:52:59,050 --> 02:53:02,930
So I've always been about giving the owners or property

1975
02:53:02,930 --> 02:53:06,330
and businesses as flexibility, the most flexibility

1976
02:53:06,330 --> 02:53:07,330
they can have.

1977
02:53:08,190 --> 02:53:11,130
Now, if you want to ensure the tenants

1978
02:53:11,130 --> 02:53:12,590
that they're going to have a place to stay,

1979
02:53:12,750 --> 02:53:14,030
you do the long-term lease.

1980
02:53:14,130 --> 02:53:17,110
And it looks like he has the idea that they can do that.

1981
02:53:18,030 --> 02:53:18,090
Yeah.

1982
02:53:18,350 --> 02:53:19,970
Because the flip side of the argument would be

1983
02:53:19,970 --> 02:53:22,590
if we hadn't resowned it in the general plan,

1984
02:53:22,930 --> 02:53:25,010
what would we have done if the property owners came to us

1985
02:53:25,010 --> 02:53:27,290
and said, hey, we have residential all around us.

1986
02:53:27,290 --> 02:53:28,570
Why aren't you considering making

1987
02:53:28,570 --> 02:53:32,910
the faculty, family, residential, at least give me that option instead of forcing me to stay

1988
02:53:32,910 --> 02:53:33,550
light industrial.

1989
02:53:34,290 --> 02:53:37,870
So then the conversation would have been the opposite side of the coin, is, okay, do

1990
02:53:37,870 --> 02:53:43,010
we want to restrict the owner from his ability to do what he wants with his property.

1991
02:53:46,760 --> 02:53:52,360
And this may be a conversation that should take place with the persons that are least

1992
02:53:52,360 --> 02:53:55,840
you the property with the person that owns the property as well.

1993
02:53:57,080 --> 02:53:57,300
Right.

1994
02:53:57,360 --> 02:53:57,720
That's good.

1995
02:53:57,720 --> 02:54:00,700
Well, I wonder if some of them still want to talk, testifying.

1996
02:54:01,960 --> 02:54:02,400
Well, they may.

1997
02:54:02,700 --> 02:54:08,160
So at this point, staff is going to look into the conditions and work on that.

1998
02:54:08,200 --> 02:54:09,340
We've got your number out there.

1999
02:54:09,720 --> 02:54:09,760
Okay.

2000
02:54:09,920 --> 02:54:10,860
Thank you.

2001
02:54:14,010 --> 02:54:14,930
Thank you, gentlemen.

2002
02:54:18,070 --> 02:54:18,370
Hello.

2003
02:54:18,610 --> 02:54:18,770
Hello.

2004
02:54:18,770 --> 02:54:20,110
My name is Jesse Roarby.

2005
02:54:20,190 --> 02:54:23,430
I live at 434, Citrus Hill Lane, La Habra.

2006
02:54:24,470 --> 02:54:29,930
And I'm mostly here to praise the general plan for its focus on walkable, mixed use,

2007
02:54:29,930 --> 02:54:35,370
density neighborhoods. Now that Lahabra is relatively built out, this is the logical

2008
02:54:35,370 --> 02:54:39,170
next step. There's a lot of run-down commercial areas in particular in the

2009
02:54:39,170 --> 02:54:45,510
Habra that really greatly need rebuilding. The one thing I would like to point

2010
02:54:45,510 --> 02:54:50,170
out is walking down the Habra Boulevard. I know that the plan is to make that

2011
02:54:50,170 --> 02:54:54,290
at a nice downtown area to do that. You're really going to have to make it more

2012
02:54:54,290 --> 02:54:58,030
pedestrian-friendly. I mean I was walking down the road the other day with my mother

2013
02:54:58,030 --> 02:54:59,870
and trying to have a conversation over the cars.

2014
02:55:00,000 --> 02:55:27,740
You're almost shouting. Beyond that, I mean, I'm a healthy 30 year old. You push the button to cross the street. And if you miss it for a couple of seconds, you don't make it. It's really not well-designed for pedestrians. I would consider things even as drastic as reducing it to two lanes and putting angle parking the full way down the road. It's not a very important road for cars. It has parallel, wittier and Lambert. But it is important to try and make a nicer neighborhood.

2015
02:55:29,080 --> 02:55:30,980
That is all I have. Thank you.

2016
02:55:30,980 --> 02:55:31,100
Thank you.

2017
02:55:36,470 --> 02:55:45,530
Good evening Mayor and council members. My name is Mark Suryang. I'm a representative for the property owner of the 1700 West of the House of Bolivar.

2018
02:55:46,210 --> 02:55:50,050
I won't repeat the contents of my letter that I believe was already a minister.

2019
02:55:51,030 --> 02:55:57,310
But our concern is that it means the red designation of the property to multi-family residents.

2020
02:55:58,150 --> 02:56:04,590
What earlier was mentioned that that possibly residential property may actually increase the value.

2021
02:56:04,970 --> 02:56:12,890
But just as not taking consideration, that the conversion to this residential property is going to be a very large amount of money.

2022
02:56:14,050 --> 02:56:24,590
The property owner purchased the property in 2007 for $2.1 million, and then thereafter, shortly thereafter, the city required the property owner to be to find the property.

2023
02:56:24,590 --> 02:56:27,930
So he spent another $9,000 into the property.

2024
02:56:27,990 --> 02:56:32,070
So he's got a total investment, $3 million into the property.

2025
02:56:32,670 --> 02:56:35,210
He still has a loan of about $1.4 million.

2026
02:56:35,930 --> 02:56:40,010
So I understand the non-conforming use

2027
02:56:40,010 --> 02:56:42,530
that he can still operate the property as a preschool,

2028
02:56:42,910 --> 02:56:45,270
or I think the CUP allows even a daycare.

2029
02:56:45,690 --> 02:56:47,190
And this is a form of AAA billy?

2030
02:56:47,410 --> 02:56:49,130
Yeah, this is a form of AAA billy.

2031
02:56:49,750 --> 02:56:52,750
So now, in the event of a fire or something

2032
02:56:52,750 --> 02:56:54,070
that takes down the one billing,

2033
02:56:54,070 --> 02:56:55,450
because this one only has one building.

2034
02:56:55,730 --> 02:56:57,910
It's not three buildings on this parcel.

2035
02:56:59,410 --> 02:57:00,670
Or, in the unfortunate event,

2036
02:57:00,690 --> 02:57:04,470
I would say the tenant ceases to operate as a preschool

2037
02:57:04,470 --> 02:57:08,670
and the owners are unable to look in another preschool

2038
02:57:08,670 --> 02:57:10,290
operator for a year.

2039
02:57:10,770 --> 02:57:13,770
And therefore, if you want to change into another use,

2040
02:57:13,770 --> 02:57:15,170
it has to be residential.

2041
02:57:15,850 --> 02:57:20,270
Therefore, you would have to incur possibly the cost

2042
02:57:20,270 --> 02:57:23,770
to either tear it down or I know if you can convert it,

2043
02:57:23,770 --> 02:57:26,650
It's going to be a few more million dollars to convert this.

2044
02:57:26,730 --> 02:57:29,690
He may be four or five million dollars into the project,

2045
02:57:29,710 --> 02:57:33,570
from the interest investment and with no possibility of even selling a property,

2046
02:57:33,690 --> 02:57:37,750
because I'm sure the property is not going to affect more than what the market value is at.

2047
02:57:37,850 --> 02:57:45,470
And so the concern is that the re-desination is going to decrease the value of his property.

2048
02:57:46,070 --> 02:57:52,130
We would ask that the property stay as the SP1 designation,

2049
02:57:52,130 --> 02:57:55,950
or maybe even consider it to be a mixed-used designation.

2050
02:57:56,110 --> 02:58:00,370
If this area is supposed to be the law of a downtown area,

2051
02:58:00,670 --> 02:58:04,170
why not consider it being staying as its current use,

2052
02:58:04,370 --> 02:58:07,730
or even having the ability of later on,

2053
02:58:07,730 --> 02:58:10,570
property or electing to either sell it to somebody

2054
02:58:10,570 --> 02:58:14,890
at once to convert the property to a residential property,

2055
02:58:14,910 --> 02:58:17,290
or maybe himself who'll do it later on in a date,

2056
02:58:17,450 --> 02:58:21,330
but have that option not force it upon him to have

2057
02:58:21,330 --> 02:58:25,410
to create a residential property

2058
02:58:25,410 --> 02:58:28,570
in the event of the unfortunate of a fire or something like that.

2059
02:58:31,170 --> 02:58:33,470
So again, we request the item that is only to turn

2060
02:58:33,470 --> 02:58:36,550
in as SB1, or maybe consider a mixed use.

2061
02:58:39,920 --> 02:58:41,300
Yeah, Mike, Carlos,

2062
02:58:47,030 --> 02:58:48,810
just a question before he started.

2063
02:58:50,450 --> 02:58:54,070
The 50% threshold, I sort of get that,

2064
02:58:54,090 --> 02:58:57,890
but I'm thinking maybe that's too high of a bar.

2065
02:58:57,890 --> 02:59:04,050
When that's when, when I finish, when I, when I know in our place burns down earthquake knocks it down,

2066
02:59:04,610 --> 02:59:07,810
they want to rebuild and they want to rebuild their business.

2067
02:59:08,810 --> 02:59:14,850
So essentially if we go 50% and it exceeds that, they can't rebuild their business, right?

2068
02:59:16,390 --> 02:59:19,650
Well, let me address parts of your question.

2069
02:59:20,210 --> 02:59:20,910
Answer it, God.

2070
02:59:21,150 --> 02:59:25,110
First of all, I don't think any earthquake unless we're looking at a 10,

2071
02:59:25,110 --> 02:59:29,930
is going to knock our single story frame buildings down in this

2072
02:59:29,930 --> 02:59:33,150
community or tilt up whatever that may be.

2073
02:59:33,830 --> 02:59:38,950
So I don't think that dooms day will come.

2074
02:59:40,530 --> 02:59:45,190
When it comes to 50%, do you know I've worked for several cities?

2075
02:59:45,590 --> 02:59:47,110
It's pretty common, pretty standard.

2076
02:59:47,650 --> 02:59:54,770
We actually use that formula when we were considering the sunset in

2077
02:59:54,770 --> 02:59:57,770
over on Beach Boulevard, and we went back and forth

2078
02:59:57,770 --> 02:59:59,870
for a period of six months we had.

2079
03:00:01,120 --> 03:00:29,980
We had evaluation engineers take a look at this. And it was very important as part of the process. And at the end of the day, the property owner was able to prove that he was less than 50% on the fire damage that occurred. So it is a good measure. And it's one that I don't think that staff is, unless we identify some other measure, would be able to recommend anything, at least right.

2080
03:00:30,000 --> 03:00:33,020
Not right now, not right now.

2081
03:00:33,320 --> 03:00:36,760
Mike, if I might ask, is that a industry standard number

2082
03:00:36,760 --> 03:00:39,240
is it something that's the best practice or something

2083
03:00:39,240 --> 03:00:40,700
that is identified in?

2084
03:00:40,700 --> 03:00:41,640
It's just something.

2085
03:00:42,160 --> 03:00:43,940
OK, I mean, that number is something

2086
03:00:43,940 --> 03:00:46,480
that we have discretion over then.

2087
03:00:46,620 --> 03:00:47,920
Does that establish what level?

2088
03:00:48,220 --> 03:00:49,900
Say, we have the discretion

2089
03:00:49,900 --> 03:00:52,060
to establish what level that is, 50% is.

2090
03:00:52,340 --> 03:00:53,580
That's a zoning code issue.

2091
03:00:54,220 --> 03:00:57,140
OK, but is there best practice in the industry that says 50%

2092
03:00:57,140 --> 03:01:01,140
It seems to be the most appropriate number for these type of analysis.

2093
03:01:03,960 --> 03:01:06,900
I think what I said before is yes.

2094
03:01:07,440 --> 03:01:11,920
The codes in the cities that I've worked for and maybe we can refer back to our city attorney.

2095
03:01:12,340 --> 03:01:15,040
Cities he works in 50% is the norm.

2096
03:01:15,280 --> 03:01:16,100
Pretty consistent across.

2097
03:01:17,800 --> 03:01:18,040
Yes.

2098
03:01:18,740 --> 03:01:25,120
Now with regard to the prior speaker, I think we might have his problem resolved.

2099
03:01:25,120 --> 03:01:31,660
And it's pretty simple, he currently has a CUP for his daycare center within the professional office.

2100
03:01:33,080 --> 03:01:40,500
In our code existing, you can have a daycare center within a residential zone with a CUP.

2101
03:01:41,480 --> 03:01:49,200
So either way, he's covered if he maintains his CUP that he doesn't shut it down for a year,

2102
03:01:49,200 --> 03:01:52,340
just like the other non-conforming types of uses.

2103
03:01:53,380 --> 03:01:56,300
But in his case, he can come in and he

2104
03:01:56,300 --> 03:01:58,560
can through the codes, current codes, extend

2105
03:01:58,560 --> 03:02:03,480
his CUP for up to two years, even if it's vacant,

2106
03:02:04,680 --> 03:02:05,980
and protect his rights.

2107
03:02:06,780 --> 03:02:09,660
So I guess what I'm saying is in either case,

2108
03:02:09,720 --> 03:02:13,520
a CUP is required, he's protected either way you cut it.

2109
03:02:13,920 --> 03:02:18,540
And the added value of residential to me,

2110
03:02:18,540 --> 03:02:23,420
I mean, in my opinion, it should be appealing to him as a landowner and an investor.

2111
03:02:24,360 --> 03:02:27,080
So he's covered either way from our perspective.

2112
03:02:28,800 --> 03:02:31,880
All right, so if the building burns down,

2113
03:02:32,620 --> 03:02:33,960
he could rebuild it.

2114
03:02:33,960 --> 03:02:37,100
He has to see you have a child care center because of the CUP.

2115
03:02:37,420 --> 03:02:37,700
Absolutely.

2116
03:02:38,600 --> 03:02:42,380
Plus, now, if we've re-zoned it under the residential,

2117
03:02:42,660 --> 03:02:47,900
as you said, that had given him an extra option to develop and walk away

2118
03:02:47,900 --> 03:02:49,580
with a whole lot of money.

2119
03:02:51,440 --> 03:02:54,440
I don't like to characterize it like that, but I mean,

2120
03:02:55,140 --> 03:02:57,460
as Woody has repeated it in his sight,

2121
03:02:58,240 --> 03:03:00,660
it definitely enhances the value of his property.

2122
03:03:01,120 --> 03:03:02,440
Well, it does sound like he's protected

2123
03:03:02,440 --> 03:03:04,240
and he's either on a...

2124
03:03:04,240 --> 03:03:07,420
There's one more scenario, though, that I think I heard him mention

2125
03:03:07,420 --> 03:03:09,220
that I want to clear with you.

2126
03:03:09,400 --> 03:03:11,860
The CUP is for a daycare center.

2127
03:03:13,520 --> 03:03:19,200
If he is unable to find another daycare center to operate there,

2128
03:03:19,200 --> 03:03:25,500
It was formally used as an office building. Correct? Yes, it was.

2129
03:03:25,500 --> 03:03:27,780
Can't go back to being used as an office building.

2130
03:03:28,540 --> 03:03:30,460
If he gets the resident, no.

2131
03:03:30,940 --> 03:03:34,380
No, his vested right is the CUP, the CUP is for a naked care.

2132
03:03:34,520 --> 03:03:37,360
So that's he is limited to that CUP.

2133
03:03:37,420 --> 03:03:39,020
So that option would not be available.

2134
03:03:39,280 --> 03:03:40,820
CUP runs with land.

2135
03:03:41,360 --> 03:03:44,480
But the CUP also runs with the use. Correct?

2136
03:03:44,660 --> 03:03:47,500
That is correct. That is correct.

2137
03:03:47,500 --> 03:03:51,040
So the CUP protects his rights to the daycare center.

2138
03:03:52,160 --> 03:03:57,220
Then how he's going to develop that you can change it to the residential and he could develop that.

2139
03:03:57,720 --> 03:04:02,420
Or you have a commercial where he can do office buildings if you want.

2140
03:04:02,680 --> 03:04:04,960
So it's one of the, we're going to limit one choice.

2141
03:04:05,160 --> 03:04:06,380
If I refer to my key of lead.

2142
03:04:07,380 --> 03:04:08,160
This is, excuse me, vote.

2143
03:04:09,500 --> 03:04:14,200
This is a purely residential designation not mixed use.

2144
03:04:14,900 --> 03:04:16,160
Okay, no, no.

2145
03:04:16,160 --> 03:04:25,840
So, however, he could still bring him back and contest for planning commission, the City Council asked for a amendment to the general plan.

2146
03:04:26,260 --> 03:04:27,500
He also can do that.

2147
03:04:28,220 --> 03:04:29,580
That's always an option.

2148
03:04:30,460 --> 03:04:34,660
And by the way, I think you said four times a year, I think it's nine now.

2149
03:04:36,160 --> 03:04:37,160
You can amend your plan.

2150
03:04:37,280 --> 03:04:37,900
You're both incorrect.

2151
03:04:38,300 --> 03:04:38,600
And next.

2152
03:04:38,820 --> 03:04:43,620
Next use might be advantages in that we're trying to lower trips.

2153
03:04:43,620 --> 03:04:52,960
So depending on the type of retail business that might be there, you'd have folks surrounding it that would utilize that business if it's the right kind of business.

2154
03:04:53,740 --> 03:04:56,280
If you went with a mixed use to signate.

2155
03:04:57,520 --> 03:04:59,960
But it and there right now, I'm just looking at.

2156
03:05:00,240 --> 03:05:02,780
I'm going to end this down in the road.

2157
03:05:03,620 --> 03:05:04,700
Carlos Roy.

2158
03:05:06,180 --> 03:05:13,420
The question for you. Is the entire block from that intersecret all the way down?

2159
03:05:13,980 --> 03:05:22,810
It's from the apartment complex that in circles the mobile station or the.

2160
03:05:23,670 --> 03:05:24,930
It was the mobile station.

2161
03:05:25,010 --> 03:05:28,830
The move to this building and the accomplice and CARES?

2162
03:05:28,830 --> 03:05:29,190
Yes.

2163
03:05:29,810 --> 03:05:31,190
Makes sense all the way to the apartment company.

2164
03:05:33,910 --> 03:05:36,690
So yes, it is a residential only designation.

2165
03:05:37,370 --> 03:05:43,810
Makes use at least not now, and other uses are the condolous in homes on the south side

2166
03:05:43,810 --> 03:05:44,290
of the street.

2167
03:05:45,950 --> 03:05:46,170
Okay.

2168
03:05:46,610 --> 03:05:52,210
I think in these instances, once whatever action we take tonight, we correspond with the property

2169
03:05:52,210 --> 03:05:53,830
owner to say, this is what happened.

2170
03:05:53,910 --> 03:05:55,050
And this is your options.

2171
03:05:58,120 --> 03:05:58,340
Okay.

2172
03:05:58,740 --> 03:05:59,160
Thank you.

2173
03:05:59,160 --> 03:06:00,940
any other questions to staff?

2174
03:06:01,460 --> 03:06:07,380
I believe you can consider the next year's possible next year's designation.

2175
03:06:09,300 --> 03:06:13,020
We will consider things in council comments when we close the public hearing.

2176
03:06:13,440 --> 03:06:15,040
But thank you for bringing that to our attention.

2177
03:06:16,440 --> 03:06:20,220
Hi. My name is Yon Ken. I'm the actually property owner.

2178
03:06:20,980 --> 03:06:23,020
I'm going to talk about reality.

2179
03:06:23,720 --> 03:06:27,680
You know, I have the loan balance of a 1.4 million there.

2180
03:06:28,520 --> 03:06:35,240
If I lose the tenant, and then finding the new tenant is not easy for preschool.

2181
03:06:36,040 --> 03:06:38,800
Also, it's not like you can open the business right away.

2182
03:06:39,400 --> 03:06:44,740
The preschool must have licensed by the Department of Social Service.

2183
03:06:44,860 --> 03:06:48,340
They take from three months to one year.

2184
03:06:49,320 --> 03:06:51,640
So, technically, even though it's extended two years,

2185
03:06:51,740 --> 03:06:55,780
if I spend another one half year to find a new tenant,

2186
03:06:55,780 --> 03:07:02,760
even though trying to release it, they don't have enough time in two years.

2187
03:07:03,600 --> 03:07:10,640
Also, it's just so hard to finance to build a game for the apartment.

2188
03:07:11,060 --> 03:07:13,820
I mean, they're the 1.4 million dollar depth there,

2189
03:07:14,220 --> 03:07:20,260
and the rich banks will give you the loan for 2 million to start a apartment building.

2190
03:07:20,260 --> 03:07:26,080
I think it's a small density, whatever, that's a 16 unit to 24 units.

2191
03:07:27,260 --> 03:07:30,740
But you need about a couple of million dollars to build a 16 unit apartment building.

2192
03:07:31,460 --> 03:07:37,160
And now if I build it for a Spanish $3 million to build a 16 unit apartment building,

2193
03:07:37,940 --> 03:07:40,400
and then I have about four points.

2194
03:07:40,900 --> 03:07:42,480
At least more than four million that.

2195
03:07:43,000 --> 03:07:45,260
The market value is not that much.

2196
03:07:45,840 --> 03:07:48,340
So reality, yeah, I think we can talk about it.

2197
03:07:48,340 --> 03:07:51,700
you can do this and that, but reality really doesn't work.

2198
03:07:52,400 --> 03:07:55,020
So that's what I'm asking, at least mix the use.

2199
03:07:55,260 --> 03:07:57,080
You're trying to keep the current challenge

2200
03:07:57,080 --> 03:07:58,500
as a long way to possible.

2201
03:07:59,720 --> 03:08:02,140
I want them to be there forever by the way.

2202
03:08:02,280 --> 03:08:06,940
I don't want them to move out, but you never know about the economy

2203
03:08:06,940 --> 03:08:09,900
and I don't know much about their financial side.

2204
03:08:10,300 --> 03:08:14,680
So anything can happen, but it's just special.

2205
03:08:14,680 --> 03:08:20,620
It's not like you just open a office, running the preschool day care.

2206
03:08:20,640 --> 03:08:25,140
You need another specialty license in addition to CD permit.

2207
03:08:26,200 --> 03:08:27,220
So it's a little different.

2208
03:08:28,060 --> 03:08:30,040
That's my difficulty at this point.

2209
03:08:30,360 --> 03:08:33,880
That's what I want CD council to consider.

2210
03:08:34,640 --> 03:08:38,880
So at least, kind of prove for the mix they use.

2211
03:08:40,360 --> 03:08:43,940
So if I do the challenge, if I cannot find it,

2212
03:08:43,940 --> 03:08:46,960
Eventually, I have to tell down the true play building

2213
03:08:46,960 --> 03:08:48,940
and the build of Parliament buildings,

2214
03:08:49,960 --> 03:08:51,820
just about 16 to 24 units.

2215
03:08:52,900 --> 03:08:55,720
It's even less than 1 a.k. I mean, you know the buildings.

2216
03:08:56,680 --> 03:08:58,280
So that's what I'm asking about then.

2217
03:08:58,500 --> 03:09:00,440
Thank you, thank you.

2218
03:09:00,960 --> 03:09:02,180
My quick question.

2219
03:09:03,720 --> 03:09:06,540
On the two years to get a new tenant,

2220
03:09:06,720 --> 03:09:08,420
if they could become before the Planning Commission,

2221
03:09:08,620 --> 03:09:10,100
can they extend that time here?

2222
03:09:10,380 --> 03:09:10,800
Yes.

2223
03:09:10,800 --> 03:09:16,400
Well, our code currently, they have a year that it's vacant, right?

2224
03:09:16,860 --> 03:09:25,860
And then they can come in for an extension a month before that year and request one year extension.

2225
03:09:26,700 --> 03:09:31,460
And then if they still don't have a tenant, so we're talking about humanively three years.

2226
03:09:31,680 --> 03:09:35,180
They can come in at the end of the second year and that's another one year.

2227
03:09:35,540 --> 03:09:39,240
Yes, we changed that last year I believe it was in the code,

2228
03:09:39,240 --> 03:09:46,220
because we realized that times are tough and that we need to be a little bit more

2229
03:09:46,220 --> 03:09:51,080
forgiving with regard to our non-performing section of the cup. We did that

2230
03:09:51,080 --> 03:09:55,220
purposefully. So he could have a down they can building for three years and do

2231
03:09:55,220 --> 03:09:59,980
these still. Absolutely. At the end of the third year is there any...

2232
03:10:00,180 --> 03:10:04,240
Choices to be made by the Planning Commission, or it's pretty final, would it come to council?

2233
03:10:04,920 --> 03:10:13,300
There is no choice, it expires, undercurrent code. But we can always change the code, it's your code.

2234
03:10:13,480 --> 03:10:19,820
If we want to put in there or other language, this has three years, that gives them another year, it's your choice.

2235
03:10:20,360 --> 03:10:23,040
So there's always opportunities to change.

2236
03:10:23,040 --> 03:10:28,520
This is one of these days in contact with us and understands when he becomes a non-conforming

2237
03:10:28,520 --> 03:10:29,280
use.

2238
03:10:29,380 --> 03:10:29,900
Absolutely.

2239
03:10:30,340 --> 03:10:31,200
We're always open.

2240
03:10:31,760 --> 03:10:31,840
All right.

2241
03:10:31,980 --> 03:10:32,680
Thank you.

2242
03:10:37,890 --> 03:10:38,530
Good evening.

2243
03:10:39,010 --> 03:10:44,750
My name is Dean Kuzukis and my business address is 501 West Imperial Highway.

2244
03:10:45,670 --> 03:10:54,070
I'm one of Lee Durling's tenants, a speaker earlier, and we're a family owned business that

2245
03:10:54,070 --> 03:10:57,330
been at that location since 79.

2246
03:10:59,050 --> 03:11:05,190
I want to thank staff and EU people for answering a lot of my questions regarding this

2247
03:11:05,190 --> 03:11:06,550
rezoning deal.

2248
03:11:07,250 --> 03:11:09,130
I also want to clarify something.

2249
03:11:09,530 --> 03:11:16,470
You talk about the Parsons 417 to 525 West Imperial as being surrounded by single family

2250
03:11:16,470 --> 03:11:17,070
homes.

2251
03:11:17,790 --> 03:11:21,430
I'm not sure that I would use that terms around it.

2252
03:11:21,430 --> 03:11:25,850
First of all, we have three lanes of westbound traffic,

2253
03:11:26,310 --> 03:11:31,250
a left turn lane on Imperial and three lanes of eastbound traffic.

2254
03:11:31,510 --> 03:11:35,110
We've got the great wall of La Habra, the huge sound wall.

2255
03:11:35,610 --> 03:11:44,950
We've got a creek bed, and then there's homes on the south side of our parcel.

2256
03:11:45,230 --> 03:11:47,670
I guess, you know, so it's a long way away.

2257
03:11:47,670 --> 03:11:55,810
On the north side there is a slope and ultimately some single family homes, but what kind of business do you operate there?

2258
03:11:55,890 --> 03:11:56,410
Auto repair.

2259
03:11:58,630 --> 03:12:00,710
And so I just wanted to clarify that.

2260
03:12:00,730 --> 03:12:06,450
I don't know if that would make a difference in your assessment and rezoning of that parcel.

2261
03:12:06,570 --> 03:12:08,930
I would like to see it stay light industrial.

2262
03:12:09,430 --> 03:12:10,070
Thank you.

2263
03:12:10,150 --> 03:12:11,670
Thank you.

2264
03:12:17,680 --> 03:12:24,520
Council members. My name is John Crab. Actually Dean's neighbor in the complex 511 West

2265
03:12:24,520 --> 03:12:29,820
Imperial's my address. I just wanted to kind of hit on what Dean was saying. You could

2266
03:12:29,820 --> 03:12:33,480
literally take a bullhorn in front of my shop and you could go to any one of the residents

2267
03:12:33,480 --> 03:12:38,100
that you guys are calling neighbors and you would not be able to hear the bullhorn. That's

2268
03:12:38,100 --> 03:12:46,320
how far away it is. So it's not like we're right next door or within a stream away. There's

2269
03:12:46,320 --> 03:12:52,460
over 100 years of people that businesses that have been in there, like Dean said he's been

2270
03:12:53,400 --> 03:12:58,900
since 79, I've been there since 2000, so there's a lot of businesses that have built

2271
03:12:58,900 --> 03:13:05,460
up there, and I think it's kind of a blow to us to not be able to expand. I mean, the golden

2272
03:13:05,460 --> 03:13:11,600
rule is on your business and expand it, and with you guys putting a limitation on us,

2273
03:13:11,600 --> 03:13:15,520
being able to spend, I think it's kind of going to hold us back a little bit.

2274
03:13:16,540 --> 03:13:17,700
The owner lives at a state.

2275
03:13:17,980 --> 03:13:23,840
I believe that the rezoning of residential, you get to see, is going to make the value increase.

2276
03:13:24,000 --> 03:13:27,140
I don't think that they're interested in increase of value.

2277
03:13:27,760 --> 03:13:32,880
If it ever does come a time where it is vacant, then I believe that the owner could approach

2278
03:13:32,880 --> 03:13:40,160
you at that time and change it to a residential zoning in order to benefit them at that time.

2279
03:13:40,440 --> 03:13:40,800
Not now.

2280
03:13:40,800 --> 03:13:45,000
were you referring to Richard Richard Belloy or who were you talking to at a state?

2281
03:13:46,000 --> 03:13:52,500
At a state is the it's budge is the is who we write our check-to. Her name was Annie.

2282
03:13:53,260 --> 03:13:54,860
Lee Derming, his least go here.

2283
03:14:02,060 --> 03:14:08,140
Okay, Lee's the property management. That's what I'm seeing that the owner is not even in the state of California.

2284
03:14:08,140 --> 03:14:10,280
I'm part of the military program.

2285
03:14:11,100 --> 03:14:13,220
Yeah, it's part of the military, but they don't own it.

2286
03:14:13,280 --> 03:14:14,220
They're just property managers.

2287
03:14:14,740 --> 03:14:19,580
So as far as their aspect as far as us,

2288
03:14:19,580 --> 03:14:21,140
I think we've been loyal to them.

2289
03:14:21,200 --> 03:14:23,480
They want to be loyal to us.

2290
03:14:23,860 --> 03:14:26,980
Adding that residential title to it,

2291
03:14:27,000 --> 03:14:28,540
might only entice them to want to sell,

2292
03:14:28,740 --> 03:14:32,700
which would eventually make us move out of the zone.

2293
03:14:33,600 --> 03:14:34,340
That's my opinion.

2294
03:14:34,340 --> 03:14:38,380
When you talk about expanding what exactly do you mean by that?

2295
03:14:41,480 --> 03:14:45,280
When I first moved in in 2000, I had a 2,000 square feet.

2296
03:14:45,580 --> 03:14:48,260
Within a year, I had another 1,000 square feet.

2297
03:14:48,620 --> 03:14:50,640
I currently have 5,500 square feet.

2298
03:14:50,940 --> 03:14:54,060
So over 14 years, I've expanded in the same complex.

2299
03:14:56,510 --> 03:14:58,450
Okay, then I guess the question to step.

2300
03:14:58,530 --> 03:14:59,970
Does this prohibit him from expanding?

2301
03:15:00,780 --> 03:15:04,640
At this we're changing the residential, under the current condition of the youth.

2302
03:15:07,680 --> 03:15:14,000
If an additional industrial suite became available through attrition, somebody moves out.

2303
03:15:14,180 --> 03:15:15,700
You could still expand, yeah.

2304
03:15:18,030 --> 03:15:18,510
So, expand.

2305
03:15:21,980 --> 03:15:22,520
Thank you.

2306
03:15:23,080 --> 03:15:23,380
Thanks.

2307
03:15:32,510 --> 03:15:33,510
Good evening.

2308
03:15:35,290 --> 03:15:40,110
I am the owner of the 520 on the Western Periol Highway. I have a business. I bought this business.

2309
03:15:40,110 --> 03:15:43,330
I work hard for my man, seventy a week.

2310
03:15:44,070 --> 03:15:47,090
I pay two hundred thousand dollars in nineteen ninety-six.

2311
03:15:47,810 --> 03:15:50,910
And I spend like three hundred thousand dollars to improve.

2312
03:15:51,890 --> 03:15:54,050
I am working still seventy a week.

2313
03:15:54,390 --> 03:15:56,410
The only thing that I have is this business.

2314
03:15:57,090 --> 03:15:59,310
And my landlord tells me, because of the city,

2315
03:16:00,090 --> 03:16:03,630
he doesn't extend my lease.

2316
03:16:04,110 --> 03:16:05,010
And I cannot do that.

2317
03:16:06,230 --> 03:16:08,270
I don't have an over to go.

2318
03:16:08,270 --> 03:16:11,270
I want to know who pay for my lust.

2319
03:16:12,870 --> 03:16:14,070
And they told me his commercial.

2320
03:16:14,310 --> 03:16:16,170
They didn't tell me his industrial.

2321
03:16:16,410 --> 03:16:18,670
When I bought the business, nobody told me

2322
03:16:18,670 --> 03:16:20,570
it is not commercial.

2323
03:16:21,010 --> 03:16:24,430
The fact that your property owner is not offering you a lease.

2324
03:16:24,850 --> 03:16:26,230
That is out of our hands.

2325
03:16:26,930 --> 03:16:31,090
Under the recommendations, you could still operate your businesses as it is right now.

2326
03:16:31,530 --> 03:16:34,830
So the fact that he's not offering you a long release,

2327
03:16:35,190 --> 03:16:37,770
that's between you and he's really out of our hands.

2328
03:16:53,320 --> 03:16:56,040
Good evening Mayors, I'm city council.

2329
03:16:56,460 --> 03:17:02,340
My name is Sergio Esclante, I am a house on the way in 100th of Loma Drive.

2330
03:17:02,340 --> 03:17:10,140
I live since 1991 and I become a business owner since 2001 and become a business owner.

2331
03:17:10,420 --> 03:17:12,680
I have a hard time to legal this business.

2332
03:17:12,920 --> 03:17:19,440
I spend hundreds of thousands of dollars to become this illegal and right now to

2333
03:17:19,440 --> 03:17:24,260
We saw in the area and changed the Sony to multiple homes.

2334
03:17:24,780 --> 03:17:29,520
I think so, it's not fair we're going to pay the price for that one, because I working

2335
03:17:29,520 --> 03:17:35,140
hard to build this business, and it's not only me, there's family business, a lot of people

2336
03:17:35,140 --> 03:17:42,620
are friends in this business, and I will ask you to consider it to keep the...

2337
03:17:42,620 --> 03:17:44,800
You have the day care there, is that where you're at?

2338
03:17:45,380 --> 03:17:46,620
That's my wife.

2339
03:17:46,920 --> 03:17:48,240
That's my wife.

2340
03:17:48,360 --> 03:17:49,340
That's the business you operate.

2341
03:17:49,560 --> 03:17:50,300
There's a daycare center.

2342
03:17:50,480 --> 03:17:52,000
What are the business we concerned with there?

2343
03:17:52,520 --> 03:17:54,340
It's my business in 441.

2344
03:17:54,780 --> 03:17:55,360
West deep in your house.

2345
03:17:55,840 --> 03:17:56,280
Okay.

2346
03:17:56,980 --> 03:17:57,180
Okay.

2347
03:17:57,380 --> 03:17:57,820
Okay.

2348
03:18:00,740 --> 03:18:02,200
Because you mentioned law of service drive.

2349
03:18:02,680 --> 03:18:03,340
Yeah, I will not confuse.

2350
03:18:04,160 --> 03:18:05,840
But you have a daycare center then.

2351
03:18:06,040 --> 03:18:07,340
Well, that's my wife.

2352
03:18:07,480 --> 03:18:09,060
It's not my wife.

2353
03:18:09,080 --> 03:18:11,500
But my business in 441 West deep in your house.

2354
03:18:11,500 --> 03:18:17,940
like I said, we have a hard time to make this as a legal it's all with a

2355
03:18:17,940 --> 03:18:22,760
a community, get all the permits, find it or we get it right but right now with this

2356
03:18:22,760 --> 03:18:27,600
recent area now we have to you know I don't know why we have to pay the price for us

2357
03:18:27,600 --> 03:18:30,480
for the recent area you know. Thank you very much for listening.

2358
03:18:37,010 --> 03:18:42,890
Hello everyone, my name is Sergio Salazar, I am part of the same complex building on 517

2359
03:18:42,890 --> 03:18:47,150
was Imperial, just wanted to share something with you.

2360
03:18:47,990 --> 03:18:54,510
I had a business in the city of Fuller Xen for five years, and this is a true story.

2361
03:18:55,850 --> 03:19:02,690
I, after my lease was up in Fuller Xen, I went on a website, and it said, you know, we

2362
03:19:02,690 --> 03:19:08,770
welcome businesses, so I signed up for your lease and then this happens, so I mean at this

2363
03:19:08,770 --> 03:19:11,950
point where, kind of, like, where do we go from here?

2364
03:19:12,710 --> 03:19:15,850
We provide a service to the city of La Habra.

2365
03:19:16,150 --> 03:19:18,890
We're not just spending time.

2366
03:19:20,650 --> 03:19:27,010
We provide, it's all in industrial, and we have outer repairs.

2367
03:19:27,210 --> 03:19:28,090
We have body shops.

2368
03:19:28,310 --> 03:19:31,270
We have fiberglass repair.

2369
03:19:33,990 --> 03:19:37,750
And looking at the plan, it seems to me

2370
03:19:39,510 --> 03:19:43,250
everything has to be turned. We don't have a lot of options where to go in the

2371
03:19:43,250 --> 03:19:51,630
hop. So I don't know if you're really walking in businesses or making it

2372
03:19:51,630 --> 03:19:54,730
harder for us to go somewhere else and that's all I have to say.

2373
03:20:03,310 --> 03:20:25,910
Good evening, Mr. Mayor, and members of the city council. My name is Walter Friedman. I'm the manager of shining star properties, LLC, which owns the property at 120 South Harbour, and 1250 East Lahabra Boulevard. That's the old dealership property that wraps the corner, which is a currently gas station on the southeast Quadrant of Harbour in Lahabra.

2374
03:20:27,670 --> 03:20:31,130
It was, it was a share of a year ago.

2375
03:20:31,590 --> 03:20:35,390
It's changed a couple of times, but it's still only gas station on the intersection right now.

2376
03:20:36,230 --> 03:20:40,910
So our two parcels, one of them is the big dealership parcel with the dealership building

2377
03:20:40,910 --> 03:20:44,530
and then the vacant lot south of the gas station.

2378
03:20:45,170 --> 03:20:46,350
King Otto, are you speaking Otto?

2379
03:20:46,370 --> 03:20:48,910
That is correct. King Otto was there.

2380
03:20:49,910 --> 03:20:50,410
He used to be in the alphabet.

2381
03:20:50,410 --> 03:20:51,770
He used to be in the alphabet Volkswagen and correct.

2382
03:20:51,770 --> 03:20:57,230
So, first of all, I'd like to thank Mr. Hack and Mr. Haramil for meeting with me earlier

2383
03:20:57,230 --> 03:21:05,310
today to discuss several things, first of all ways in which we may be able to be to be more

2384
03:21:05,310 --> 03:21:12,430
compatible and integrate the development of our two parcels with the potential redevelopment

2385
03:21:12,430 --> 03:21:14,030
of the gas station parcel.

2386
03:21:14,030 --> 03:21:23,910
And, too, we also discussed the proposed rezoning of our properties under the revised

2387
03:21:23,910 --> 03:21:26,170
2,035 general plan.

2388
03:21:26,670 --> 03:21:32,010
And as a result of these discussions, and I believe with the tentative approval of Mr.

2389
03:21:32,150 --> 03:21:38,650
Hack and Mr. Harrow Mio, I respectfully request that our two properties be rezoned to

2390
03:21:38,650 --> 03:22:03,650
to use Center 2 which is the medium density apartment component. For several reasons, first of all, it will allow us to be more flexible and feasible with cooperating with the gas station corner potential redevelopment to it will allow any project to be more financially feasible.

2391
03:22:03,650 --> 03:22:12,230
And three, it would allow the medium-fant multi-family density for the rezoning of our properties

2392
03:22:12,610 --> 03:22:20,630
to be fair and consistent with other medium-multi-family density properties proposed for

2393
03:22:20,630 --> 03:22:23,150
other similar-litterly situated properties.

2394
03:22:23,870 --> 03:22:28,750
And the ones that I'm talking about that are similarly situated are the ones that are in

2395
03:22:28,750 --> 03:22:33,970
or a district that a single family, a single family, lots.

2396
03:22:34,710 --> 03:22:42,130
Those properties are similarly situated to our parcels, and therefore to be fair and consistent.

2397
03:22:43,350 --> 03:22:49,730
I believe that our parcels should have the medium intensity zoning for the mixed use.

2398
03:22:50,290 --> 03:22:58,530
Therefore, just to summarize, I'm requesting the zoning to mixed use center to, for our two properties, under the revised general plan.

2399
03:22:58,750 --> 03:23:00,490
Thank you, and if you have any questions.

2400
03:23:00,630 --> 03:23:03,790
Mr. Frayman, did you were able to attend any of the G-PAC meetings?

2401
03:23:04,430 --> 03:23:09,390
I did not attend any G-PAC meetings, but I did send a letter to planning and zoning early

2402
03:23:09,390 --> 03:23:18,270
last year for requesting a higher, even a higher density for which I got a response which basically

2403
03:23:18,270 --> 03:23:25,770
related to the properties being adjacent to single family, lots and also our parcels having

2404
03:23:25,770 --> 03:23:32,130
little bit more narrow physical characteristic. So, when I came in today to speak with Carlos

2405
03:23:32,130 --> 03:23:34,230
and Carlos and Mike,

2406
03:23:36,490 --> 03:23:39,890
I just kind of amended my request to go to that medium-density

2407
03:23:39,890 --> 03:23:43,570
residential use on that particular parcels.

2408
03:23:45,830 --> 03:23:49,510
Biker, were those his concerns taken in the actual committee?

2409
03:23:55,800 --> 03:24:03,900
Councilman Gomez in regards to the lettering question, the applicant had requested that the use

2410
03:24:03,900 --> 03:24:10,860
be similar to those properties located to the north, which would allow to a maximum of 50 units to the acre.

2411
03:24:10,860 --> 03:24:31,980
And so the response to the applicant was the G-PAC's consideration of the item that for the area in which he was situated based on the size of the property, its location, that the 24 unit designation is more compatible than the 50 units per acre that's located to the north.

2412
03:24:31,980 --> 03:24:47,150
based on conversations that we had today with the property owner and the argument that it may be more appropriate for a lesser designation that would be the mixed use to

2413
03:24:47,720 --> 03:24:57,620
which it allowed for 36 units to the acre which would be similar to the area he was discussing that would not be of a concern to staff if that was

2414
03:24:57,620 --> 03:24:59,980
reason to that that's it or the land use

2415
03:25:03,380 --> 03:25:26,720
So, what are you, what's proposed in the general plan? Currently the committee is recommended to mix use center 1, which is a maximum of 24 units to the acre, and the applicant is requesting and mix use center 2, which are allowed for 36 units to the acre, which is acceptable to staff.

2416
03:25:26,720 --> 03:25:34,180
That would be the situation in which this property is located there, matches similar to those

2417
03:25:34,180 --> 03:25:42,260
that are being rezoned to that kind of density level in the core portion of the city.

2418
03:25:42,740 --> 03:25:47,840
If that request would have been made at the time, the letter was written, then we would have taken

2419
03:25:47,840 --> 03:25:51,460
that request and recommended approval to the chief pack.

2420
03:25:51,460 --> 03:25:52,140
And

2421
03:25:56,720 --> 03:26:02,060
when we start to go to make the recommendations, I would go ahead and like to make that modification.

2422
03:26:05,760 --> 03:26:10,940
Good evening. My name is Jerry Allen. I live in 1981, Randall.

2423
03:26:11,560 --> 03:26:14,500
This goes on with himself, a chef here, and all these other stories.

2424
03:26:14,620 --> 03:26:17,120
But I just felt that I needed to say this.

2425
03:26:17,680 --> 03:26:25,000
I moved to the Harvard 1976, I taught school 40 years, and he's Twitter, so I put in the area quite a while.

2426
03:26:25,940 --> 03:26:34,340
I live, I guess, maybe, well, 50 to 75 yards north of the Boulevard, Randall's being

2427
03:26:34,340 --> 03:26:40,780
the first street, but off of Maysee and Tupeman, and I've loved living there obviously since

2428
03:26:40,780 --> 03:26:46,680
1981 at that address, but I'm not in my retirement because it's said there, and look at

2429
03:26:46,680 --> 03:26:48,380
the back of a great big apartment building.

2430
03:26:48,440 --> 03:26:53,680
You can call me self, you can call me whenever you want, but I'm just not going to do it.

2431
03:26:53,680 --> 03:26:58,160
And so I realized progress has to go on and Jerry's going to have to move.

2432
03:26:59,420 --> 03:27:04,080
But all these reclassifications and all the things that you people do, that's correct.

2433
03:27:04,260 --> 03:27:07,420
If they may be, it does impact people negatively.

2434
03:27:08,100 --> 03:27:10,660
And I would not have moved now, I think.

2435
03:27:11,660 --> 03:27:17,880
I'm thinking about putting that sign up there, because I just don't see how my value could do anything,

2436
03:27:17,880 --> 03:27:23,000
but go down, looking at the back of the two story apartment building from my living room.

2437
03:27:25,080 --> 03:27:27,300
Okay, that makes sense.

2438
03:27:27,860 --> 03:27:28,220
Thank you.

2439
03:27:28,360 --> 03:27:28,600
Thank you.

2440
03:27:36,990 --> 03:27:41,170
I guess anybody else wants to speak?

2441
03:27:41,610 --> 03:27:42,490
Or against it?

2442
03:27:44,690 --> 03:27:45,970
Can we take a quick five minute rest?

2443
03:27:45,970 --> 03:27:48,350
In that case, I'm going to close the public hearing.

2444
03:27:48,530 --> 03:27:52,230
We'll take a five minute recess and then we'll come back if we have questions or staff

2445
03:27:52,230 --> 03:27:54,090
and further discussion and then an action.

2446
03:27:54,850 --> 03:27:55,310
Thank you.

2447
03:27:55,410 --> 03:27:56,330
Five minutes or so.

2448
03:28:10,250 --> 03:28:15,250
is North of Wittier, Ballard, probably in the case of him.

2449
03:28:19,130 --> 03:28:21,490
I don't know.

2450
03:28:21,550 --> 03:28:22,970
But I will put it the same thing.

2451
03:28:23,130 --> 03:28:26,730
How do you, how do you, how do you do it yourself?

2452
03:36:13,650 --> 03:36:26,530
Great presentation. Thank you. It's been a lot of reading for all of this. So at this point, I will call for questions or discussion by the council, and I do have some discussions that I will further my colleagues to be in.

2453
03:36:26,850 --> 03:36:40,030
Just a quick question. And in all of our analysis there, you know, I, I wondered if we took into account the idea that one day maybe we've always talked about incorporating the different unincorporated county islands.

2454
03:36:40,030 --> 03:36:44,450
And if that were to finally happen, one of these days,

2455
03:36:45,090 --> 03:36:48,150
are all those numbers we saw on housing,

2456
03:36:48,310 --> 03:36:50,250
on transportation, on our emissions.

2457
03:36:51,070 --> 03:36:55,330
And I mean, would that would they be completely thrown off

2458
03:36:55,330 --> 03:37:02,070
if that happened before 2035, or me, that's always the vast majority

2459
03:37:02,070 --> 03:37:03,470
of the county islands are housing.

2460
03:37:03,990 --> 03:37:07,710
Right, but I guess the question is to the consultants,

2461
03:37:07,710 --> 03:37:12,850
did you take into account the residences that were in those county islands as part of your overall

2462
03:37:12,850 --> 03:37:18,530
analysis of traffic planning and air quality? I mean, we're not not talking a lot of homes.

2463
03:37:18,530 --> 03:37:24,590
We're talking probably right around 50 homes total in that orange county islands that are in the city.

2464
03:37:25,290 --> 03:37:31,370
Yeah, the county island areas were incorporated with all the traffic models and all the

2465
03:37:31,370 --> 03:37:37,350
like that was done, because we had the regional growth model that we fit into and all that background

2466
03:37:37,350 --> 03:37:43,510
information was there as a part of the model. So whether you add that land and incorporate that land

2467
03:37:43,510 --> 03:37:47,790
or not, this numbers are still part of the number crunching, if you will.

2468
03:37:49,370 --> 03:37:53,470
And are all those areas already essentially zoned are one?

2469
03:37:53,510 --> 03:37:56,730
I believe that that was my recollection.

2470
03:37:56,730 --> 03:38:04,510
Okay. Yes. All right. So if that's the case that the case goes, the maps actually in the background reports,

2471
03:38:04,510 --> 03:38:10,610
et cetera, incorporates those areas as well. Let me comment, there is a small commercial area that's within

2472
03:38:10,610 --> 03:38:16,510
the county island that's located along the west end of town north of Wittier, Boulevard. Other than that,

2473
03:38:16,530 --> 03:38:21,270
all the remaining county island, so are a residential. So they would be consistent with the change in the general one.

2474
03:38:21,270 --> 03:38:24,610
Yes, we plan for their land destination.

2475
03:38:28,960 --> 03:38:32,360
Yeah, and there are tables, there are tables in the IAR

2476
03:38:32,360 --> 03:38:34,360
that have actually been the numbers tabulated.

2477
03:38:34,740 --> 03:38:36,060
Great, thank you very much.

2478
03:38:36,980 --> 03:38:37,880
Thank you.

2479
03:38:40,000 --> 03:38:41,660
Any other comments, Rose?

2480
03:38:42,140 --> 03:38:45,020
Well, I'd just like to say thank you all of you

2481
03:38:45,020 --> 03:38:47,640
stay throughout this whole general plan.

2482
03:38:47,660 --> 03:38:51,640
I mean, you actually took a crash course on the general plan

2483
03:38:51,640 --> 03:38:55,000
meetings and what took place for us over two and a half

2484
03:38:55,000 --> 03:39:01,100
years, some say three years, so it was a good length of information that all of us took in

2485
03:39:01,100 --> 03:39:04,860
and listened to, and I'd like to thank some of those that were on the G-Pack Committee,

2486
03:39:05,320 --> 03:39:10,620
please raise your hand because Kudos to you for all the time that you gave as well.

2487
03:39:10,840 --> 03:39:12,140
And of course,

2488
03:39:16,470 --> 03:39:24,990
Chairman Mike as well, it was a lot of learning for us, and anything was not

2489
03:39:24,990 --> 03:39:33,550
lightly. Everything was weighed with all that was being thrown at us, literally. All the

2490
03:39:33,550 --> 03:39:40,070
information and these are individuals who really took the time to listen to everything,

2491
03:39:40,490 --> 03:39:46,070
do all their homework, give asked questions and all, and I made the best decisions, they

2492
03:39:46,070 --> 03:39:52,950
could possibly make. I'd like to thank staff. You were patient with us, Carlos, Mike, you know,

2493
03:39:52,950 --> 03:39:59,850
All of you were very patient with us with all the questions that had to be asked as well and of course to Woody in

2494
03:40:00,000 --> 03:40:29,820
And all your staff or agencies, as well. Thank you for all the time that you gave. We are looking at the future of our community. We made the best decisions. I'm optimistic of what is going to take place. I only wish that the property, I only wish that the information that was disseminated from the city to those property owners was disseminated further down to the property management, to the people that are least

2495
03:40:29,820 --> 03:40:36,900
because it affects all of you and somewhere it was dropped along the way because

2496
03:40:36,900 --> 03:40:43,300
because God knows we had many, many, many, many means we had many venues of disseminating

2497
03:40:43,300 --> 03:40:50,220
the information out there and there was as far as I'm concerned because I had them actually

2498
03:40:50,220 --> 03:40:57,620
add some more ways of disseminating the information. So we thought of every possible way

2499
03:40:57,620 --> 03:41:00,560
that you could possibly disseminate the information

2500
03:41:00,560 --> 03:41:01,900
out there to individuals.

2501
03:41:02,900 --> 03:41:06,660
So I commend all of you for what that work that we did.

2502
03:41:06,920 --> 03:41:08,700
This takes place when it hasn't taken place.

2503
03:41:08,880 --> 03:41:12,020
So the general plan has not been revised for 24 years.

2504
03:41:12,340 --> 03:41:15,700
I will probably never be part of the general plan again.

2505
03:41:16,460 --> 03:41:18,420
So for us, it was very wise.

2506
03:41:18,960 --> 03:41:20,280
We wanted to be part of it.

2507
03:41:20,280 --> 03:41:22,220
We wanted to be part of the change that was going

2508
03:41:22,220 --> 03:41:24,780
to take the future of Lahabra.

2509
03:41:24,780 --> 03:41:36,940
And I was very honored to be on there with the rest of the G park and to have all these individuals with so much knowledge that I am comfortable with what decisions we made.

2510
03:41:38,200 --> 03:41:41,840
So I just like to thank everyone for the time that was given.

2511
03:41:42,720 --> 03:41:45,660
I am very honored to take part of this G park as well.

2512
03:41:46,220 --> 03:41:49,060
Thanks, Rose, and I have a list of all of members of the committee.

2513
03:41:49,320 --> 03:41:53,380
We'll bring you a bit of folks back and everybody just kind of a little recognition,

2514
03:41:54,060 --> 03:41:56,400
you know, because it was a job well done.

2515
03:41:57,680 --> 03:41:58,900
Oh, no, I'm done.

2516
03:41:59,440 --> 03:41:59,560
Jen?

2517
03:41:59,820 --> 03:42:00,800
I've said thank you.

2518
03:42:01,800 --> 03:42:04,300
I just want to make a couple of comments real quick.

2519
03:42:04,480 --> 03:42:10,940
I also want to thank all of you who came tonight to ask questions to express your concerns.

2520
03:42:11,820 --> 03:42:18,620
I know that council would look oops, I want to think all of you who came tonight asked your questions and made your comments.

2521
03:42:18,880 --> 03:42:27,080
I know that council will deliberate over them as much and as long and as hard as did the members of the G-pack when they were brought to us.

2522
03:42:27,440 --> 03:42:36,160
I also want you to remember this is a plan. There's nothing in here that sets zoning codes. It makes recommendations on where zoning codes can go in the future.

2523
03:42:36,160 --> 03:42:43,360
And the implementation will require that staff bring those items back to us back to the planning commission for review.

2524
03:42:43,920 --> 03:42:47,320
That means that these issues probably will get discussed again in the future.

2525
03:42:47,840 --> 03:42:52,440
And members of the committee have the opportunity to speak to those at that time, yet again.

2526
03:42:52,880 --> 03:42:57,160
And so stay engaged and do as exactly as Rose said pay attention to when the things come out.

2527
03:42:57,880 --> 03:43:03,220
And get on, for example, on the city's mailing list, I don't know if the GPAC committee is going to stay alive

2528
03:43:03,220 --> 03:43:07,360
and he nailed the scent from that, but perhaps that's something we should be considering.

2529
03:43:09,220 --> 03:43:13,520
Also, I want to point out that there's more to this plan than land use and zoning.

2530
03:43:14,220 --> 03:43:16,420
This is a very, very important document.

2531
03:43:16,580 --> 03:43:19,420
It affects our health or safety or well-being.

2532
03:43:20,220 --> 03:43:25,680
It's more than just that land use, and it's a great document that people need to take the time to look

2533
03:43:25,680 --> 03:43:30,860
to see how are we preparing ourselves for the next 10, 15, 20 years out.

2534
03:43:30,860 --> 03:43:37,340
And so it's really a very dynamic, changeable, breathing, living document, and I can't

2535
03:43:37,340 --> 03:43:40,380
impress upon all of us how important that is.

2536
03:43:41,620 --> 03:43:44,820
And the other thing I want to say is we've gotten some accolades in here for some people

2537
03:43:44,820 --> 03:43:48,820
who've seen this done in other communities, and they're saying that we've done a great job,

2538
03:43:49,080 --> 03:43:50,180
and I have to agree.

2539
03:43:50,360 --> 03:43:53,460
I've done some planning work in my professional life as well.

2540
03:43:53,840 --> 03:43:58,300
And I'm very pleased, I think we have Woody and his staff to thank, we have our own staff

2541
03:43:58,300 --> 03:44:02,460
to thank and we have those members of the community who will recognize it in another talk

2542
03:44:02,460 --> 03:44:03,020
participated.

2543
03:44:03,440 --> 03:44:06,620
This is a great piece of work and I want to thank everybody.

2544
03:44:08,800 --> 03:44:09,840
All right, well thank you.

2545
03:44:10,680 --> 03:44:15,540
I want to have a little discussion on three issues that came up tonight.

2546
03:44:16,200 --> 03:44:22,340
One of the Zon the Mill Biggie Crown Auto property where he was suggesting mixed use center

2547
03:44:22,340 --> 03:44:25,840
to staff seem to concur with that.

2548
03:44:25,940 --> 03:44:27,160
Chat with him a little bit.

2549
03:44:27,640 --> 03:44:30,080
I would like to make that revision to change that

2550
03:44:30,080 --> 03:44:32,420
to next use center too.

2551
03:44:33,260 --> 03:44:35,780
I guess I'm going to do a roundabout motion as I go.

2552
03:44:36,300 --> 03:44:38,480
So that would change the mid to use center too,

2553
03:44:38,680 --> 03:44:39,940
because I think it meets our objectives.

2554
03:44:40,960 --> 03:44:45,940
When you go to the 1700 West La Habibule of Art,

2555
03:44:46,400 --> 03:44:48,220
a technical few minutes will staff again,

2556
03:44:48,680 --> 03:44:51,340
I think it would be consistent with us to change that

2557
03:44:51,340 --> 03:44:56,160
to mix juice one, that correct?

2558
03:44:57,280 --> 03:44:58,220
I think that would work.

2559
03:44:58,400 --> 03:44:59,980
It seems to benefit the owners and both.

2560
03:45:00,000 --> 03:45:00,960
Both those properties.

2561
03:45:03,040 --> 03:45:09,660
Now, the light industrial complex that I may need some help with my colleagues.

2562
03:45:10,280 --> 03:45:19,400
That property actually takes into petboys, smack auto, wall greens. There's a box company and an industrial complex.

2563
03:45:20,760 --> 03:45:24,040
We need to have a consistent throughout the whole complex.

2564
03:45:25,320 --> 03:45:36,960
I don't think I heard, if I heard correctly, and maybe you can validate this, is that the owner of that property, and it looks like they can do long term leases with these tenants.

2565
03:45:37,520 --> 03:45:38,440
It's their choice.

2566
03:45:40,440 --> 03:45:49,780
So that's an issue between the tenants and the owner, to me, we're given the owner options for the property, all of these other businesses.

2567
03:45:49,780 --> 03:45:52,000
So it's just not the one complex.

2568
03:45:52,900 --> 03:45:59,720
So I guess my motion is to leave that as is, unless I'm not figuring that correctly.

2569
03:46:00,060 --> 03:46:04,640
And then pass everything else in the general plan to say that it'll long term leave.

2570
03:46:05,320 --> 03:46:06,540
We can not control.

2571
03:46:07,860 --> 03:46:09,660
Tom, can we consider these individually?

2572
03:46:11,160 --> 03:46:12,400
The 120 South Harbor.

2573
03:46:12,520 --> 03:46:14,500
I think is the one you were talking about.

2574
03:46:14,820 --> 03:46:17,140
And the second was 1700 West La Habra.

2575
03:46:17,140 --> 03:46:19,500
and then the third is the Imperial.

2576
03:46:19,680 --> 03:46:22,080
So there's Elbiqui properties, what address?

2577
03:46:27,140 --> 03:46:33,240
Okay, so those would be mixed use center 2, correct?

2578
03:46:34,000 --> 03:46:35,420
We take them to 36.

2579
03:46:35,740 --> 03:46:37,300
I'll take that as a separate motion.

2580
03:46:37,520 --> 03:46:38,400
That's, that's okay.

2581
03:46:38,720 --> 03:46:39,520
We'll do another motion.

2582
03:46:39,840 --> 03:46:43,900
I move that we change that designation to mixed use center 2.

2583
03:46:44,140 --> 03:46:45,180
Which would take it to 36?

2584
03:46:45,780 --> 03:46:46,200
Yes.

2585
03:46:47,400 --> 03:46:51,100
That would also include the service station at the corner of the service station.

2586
03:46:51,200 --> 03:46:52,500
You want to do all that area.

2587
03:46:52,500 --> 03:46:52,880
Yes.

2588
03:46:52,880 --> 03:46:53,180
Harbor.

2589
03:46:53,380 --> 03:46:55,100
I was second that motion.

2590
03:46:58,340 --> 03:46:59,720
We need the address again, Carlos.

2591
03:47:00,060 --> 03:47:01,380
It's 120 South Harbor.

2592
03:47:01,940 --> 03:47:03,760
And then.

2593
03:47:03,900 --> 03:47:04,340
What is it?

2594
03:47:04,880 --> 03:47:05,240
The Harbor.

2595
03:47:05,940 --> 03:47:06,040
Two.

2596
03:47:07,440 --> 03:47:10,160
Well, I would just reference it to the.

2597
03:47:10,200 --> 03:47:11,140
Armor King Otto.

2598
03:47:11,140 --> 03:47:17,180
Chevrolet South Southeast corner of Le Harbra and Harbra Boulevard

2599
03:47:18,520 --> 03:47:20,740
within every of six eye

2600
03:47:26,210 --> 03:47:28,390
that ties it to the General Plan document.

2601
03:47:30,130 --> 03:47:31,930
So we have a motion in a second.

2602
03:47:32,210 --> 03:47:32,270
Yes.

2603
03:47:32,750 --> 03:47:33,270
Two.

2604
03:47:34,250 --> 03:47:34,550
Two.

2605
03:47:34,550 --> 03:47:34,870
Two.

2606
03:47:35,590 --> 03:47:35,710
Two.

2607
03:47:35,710 --> 03:47:35,770
Two.

2608
03:47:35,770 --> 03:47:35,870
Two.

2609
03:47:35,870 --> 03:47:35,930
Two.

2610
03:47:36,610 --> 03:47:36,770
Two.

2611
03:47:47,720 --> 03:47:54,300
Okay, so be much motion roll call. Yeah. Oh my second. This is going to these are going to be modification to the general plan.

2612
03:47:54,520 --> 03:47:58,840
We, we, uh, uh, uh, good to send what we're going to do. Yes. Right.

2613
03:47:59,860 --> 03:48:01,980
Take care of the ladies. Yes.

2614
03:48:02,820 --> 03:48:04,640
Counts member Gomez. Yes.

2615
03:48:04,640 --> 03:48:08,740
Counts member Espanosa. Yes. Counts member Shaw. Yes.

2616
03:48:09,100 --> 03:48:15,700
Mayor Pro Tim Blazes. Yes. And then my second amendment to the general plan update is to make

2617
03:48:15,700 --> 03:48:19,770
1700 West Lavera Boulevard mixed use center one?

2618
03:48:24,040 --> 03:48:25,220
I'll second it.

2619
03:48:27,020 --> 03:48:29,220
And that would be, that would involve the

2620
03:48:30,260 --> 03:48:35,720
parcels located on sub-area map south of Lavera Boulevard

2621
03:48:35,720 --> 03:48:40,640
west of Indiana in area four age.

2622
03:48:41,340 --> 03:48:43,580
Which I think it makes a consistent with that area.

2623
03:48:43,860 --> 03:48:45,580
Okay, so there's a motion in a second.

2624
03:48:49,780 --> 03:48:50,250
Mayor Beamish?

2625
03:48:50,920 --> 03:48:51,040
Yes.

2626
03:48:51,340 --> 03:48:52,300
Mayor Pro Tim Blaise?

2627
03:48:52,300 --> 03:48:52,860
Yes.

2628
03:48:53,540 --> 03:48:54,760
Councilmember Espinoza?

2629
03:48:55,160 --> 03:48:55,240
Yes.

2630
03:48:55,600 --> 03:48:56,460
Councilmember Shaw?

2631
03:48:56,600 --> 03:48:57,000
Yes.

2632
03:48:57,280 --> 03:48:58,100
Councilmember Gomez?

2633
03:49:00,420 --> 03:49:06,560
Then with regards to 440 women, West and Perial, Highway, and that several businesses

2634
03:49:06,560 --> 03:49:07,580
in line there.

2635
03:49:10,340 --> 03:49:20,060
I would keep it the same because it's a bigger area than just that one complex and again from

2636
03:49:20,060 --> 03:49:21,720
what I heard in testimony tonight.

2637
03:49:21,720 --> 03:49:26,920
the owner of the property can do long-term leases, so we guess between them.

2638
03:49:27,820 --> 03:49:32,980
I think my comment from all the tenants that we heard as well as the property owner,

2639
03:49:33,160 --> 03:49:37,800
they all seem to say that they would prefer to remain light industrial.

2640
03:49:38,780 --> 03:49:44,740
I mean, I think that the housing accommodations that we're making throughout the city are

2641
03:49:44,740 --> 03:49:53,140
welcome, I mean we're resulting in putting in the ability to have housing in a number of locations

2642
03:49:53,140 --> 03:49:59,900
and I think that's great, we will have nice new housing coming, but you know I don't.

2643
03:50:00,000 --> 03:50:26,880
What I look at imperial there at that location, I think the right, you know, on the south side of the street with the huge wall, that really divides that center from the south side of imperial, just people don't even see over there and it would be in my mind consistent and and find to keep that use and they seem to not want to have this cloud or uncertainty, if you will, being legal, not conforming so.

2644
03:50:26,880 --> 03:50:34,180
So, are you asking Tim, you want to carve out that one particular property and then have residential all around it?

2645
03:50:34,200 --> 03:50:42,180
Because, well, it would go from 441 West and all the way east, even east of Euclid,

2646
03:50:43,300 --> 03:50:46,480
is would still be light industrial uses.

2647
03:50:47,160 --> 03:50:49,120
Because I don't think the apartment starts home.

2648
03:50:49,120 --> 03:50:55,760
And what I'm saying is that the other property owners, which included pet boys and Mac

2649
03:50:55,760 --> 03:51:00,680
Otto and Walgreens and all of them, they didn't raise an issue about the zoning.

2650
03:51:01,780 --> 03:51:06,680
So because they're not here, I would assume they support that change because they probably

2651
03:51:07,280 --> 03:51:08,820
leave it as value to the property.

2652
03:51:11,510 --> 03:51:16,130
Well, I don't know if we can assume that, I mean, they don't know what to assume, because

2653
03:51:16,130 --> 03:51:19,350
did we get any correspondence or communication from any of those businesses?

2654
03:51:22,670 --> 03:51:26,670
Well, Tim, why don't you make a motion see if you have the votes and we'll go from there.

2655
03:51:27,190 --> 03:51:27,490
Will I?

2656
03:51:27,490 --> 03:51:28,150
Just a minute, Tim.

2657
03:51:28,250 --> 03:51:30,790
Does it do we have any communication coming in?

2658
03:51:30,950 --> 03:51:31,270
Yes.

2659
03:51:32,130 --> 03:51:38,230
We have had preliminary discussions with developers in Mr. Ota, the owner of all those properties,

2660
03:51:39,350 --> 03:51:43,810
about recycling his property to medium high density residential.

2661
03:51:46,520 --> 03:51:51,140
And the other owners, the owners of the property in this question, I have not.

2662
03:51:51,140 --> 03:51:55,320
We've not met in contact with the developer that you assume is talked to somebody.

2663
03:51:55,920 --> 03:51:56,640
Yes, okay.

2664
03:51:57,120 --> 03:52:01,800
But we've spoken directly with the developers and with the property on the Mr. Vota,

2665
03:52:02,720 --> 03:52:08,940
about residential, and obviously he's interested in developing residential.

2666
03:52:10,060 --> 03:52:12,900
Okay, and that property to be exact is Mr. Roberts.

2667
03:52:13,680 --> 03:52:21,120
Yes, the property, and I'm sorry, it's property from you all the way.

2668
03:52:21,120 --> 03:52:26,240
to not including the property, owners, and the tenants that are here tonight.

2669
03:52:26,480 --> 03:52:27,740
From Euclid heading west.

2670
03:52:29,020 --> 03:52:29,040
Yes.

2671
03:52:29,040 --> 03:52:31,740
Up to the property that we talking about tonight.

2672
03:52:34,720 --> 03:52:35,360
Only up to it.

2673
03:52:35,360 --> 03:52:36,600
So that would be Macado.

2674
03:52:36,820 --> 03:52:41,720
That would be that Pepo is Walgreens, the pallet company, all of those uses.

2675
03:52:43,820 --> 03:52:47,960
So the developers are in this and you know, okay, so you have that little industrial complex

2676
03:52:47,960 --> 03:52:49,080
to carve out, I guess.

2677
03:52:50,120 --> 03:52:53,900
So to your point Mr. Mayor, it seems like some of the property owners in this lighting

2678
03:52:53,900 --> 03:52:57,980
industrial area are interested in the change is that accurate to say and then so

2679
03:52:57,980 --> 03:53:01,780
obviously some of the property owners are interested in maintaining it as light

2680
03:53:01,780 --> 03:53:08,360
industrial. So some mix of comments. So the the motion would have to would be the

2681
03:53:08,360 --> 03:53:16,410
the properties between four four one Western period through the two to

2682
03:53:16,410 --> 03:53:22,590
Euclid to the corner at Euclid. Is that basically without encompassing it?

2683
03:53:22,590 --> 03:53:23,750
the cup is so Walgreens.

2684
03:53:26,420 --> 03:53:28,740
I just want to make the most improperly. I'm sorry.

2685
03:53:28,940 --> 03:53:34,080
So you want to keep all the properties as light a best real?

2686
03:53:34,880 --> 03:53:39,320
Well, yeah, I'm not sure if that's capturing some of the properties that might

2687
03:53:39,320 --> 03:53:40,740
because that would be capturing the ones.

2688
03:53:40,840 --> 03:53:44,120
So we're getting them out with the address of the way. Okay, sorry.

2689
03:53:44,200 --> 03:53:46,840
We need to be real clear on. Right.

2690
03:53:49,340 --> 03:53:52,600
Light and dust real light and dust real right.

2691
03:53:52,600 --> 03:53:54,300
Oh, see if he's got the votes.

2692
03:53:55,720 --> 03:53:57,360
Well, I want to see what the map shows.

2693
03:53:58,320 --> 03:54:00,500
Is there a way to put this up on the screen

2694
03:54:00,500 --> 03:54:02,340
a map of this area?

2695
03:54:03,280 --> 03:54:05,540
I don't know that we have a copy that's

2696
03:54:05,540 --> 03:54:07,100
a diva electronic copy.

2697
03:54:09,100 --> 03:54:09,660
Oh, perfect.

2698
03:54:11,060 --> 03:54:12,380
We can't go up on that, think.

2699
03:54:18,300 --> 03:54:20,140
We have the maps in here.

2700
03:54:21,040 --> 03:54:22,140
So, Mr. Wong.

2701
03:54:23,060 --> 03:54:23,280
Mr. Wong?

2702
03:54:32,830 --> 03:54:37,090
Well, what's the idea that they're talking about this one right here?

2703
03:54:37,250 --> 03:54:39,190
Which ones are they talking about?

2704
03:54:39,470 --> 03:54:41,490
Can we turn on?

2705
03:54:42,450 --> 03:54:43,950
We want to take a break for a few minutes.

2706
03:54:44,290 --> 03:54:45,190
Yeah, that'd be helpful.

2707
03:54:45,590 --> 03:54:47,590
Okay, we're going to take a break for a few minutes.

2708
03:54:50,690 --> 03:54:51,050
That one?

2709
03:54:51,670 --> 03:54:51,890
Right.

2710
03:54:52,550 --> 03:54:53,990
And is this commercial or industrial?

2711
03:54:53,990 --> 03:54:54,790
This is commercial.

2712
03:54:55,270 --> 03:54:58,850
So I mean, if they did this with industrial and then kept it restores it in shell.

2713
03:54:58,850 --> 03:54:59,770
Thank you.

2714
03:54:59,770 --> 03:54:59,890
Bye.

2715
03:55:00,000 --> 03:55:02,240
That's something that's good work, right?

2716
03:55:02,240 --> 03:55:14,220
That doesn't make sense.

2717
03:55:14,720 --> 03:55:16,820
I'm trying to get to the mayor's door.

2718
03:55:16,820 --> 03:55:18,120
This is the first time I've ever seen this before.

2719
03:55:18,220 --> 03:55:19,540
Andy, what is this?

2720
03:55:19,860 --> 03:55:20,480
What is this?

2721
03:55:20,480 --> 03:55:20,540
What is this?

2722
03:55:21,080 --> 03:55:21,860
Oh, short.

2723
03:55:22,420 --> 03:55:25,220
This is residential now, right?

2724
03:55:25,440 --> 03:55:26,120
I know.

2725
03:55:26,700 --> 03:55:30,220
But the boat has properties or that one, that one, that one.

2726
03:55:31,000 --> 03:55:31,360
Okay.

2727
03:55:31,820 --> 03:55:33,140
He wants to make a house.

2728
03:55:33,840 --> 03:55:34,420
He's here.

2729
03:55:35,080 --> 03:55:36,320
He's up to speak here.

2730
03:55:36,620 --> 03:55:37,260
Hey, that guy.

2731
03:55:37,340 --> 03:55:38,060
Here we go.

2732
03:55:38,380 --> 03:55:39,780
So I'm saying that early.

2733
03:55:40,780 --> 03:55:41,640
Go tell him.

2734
03:55:41,940 --> 03:55:42,780
The boat has here tonight.

2735
03:55:43,540 --> 03:55:44,400
Oh, my God.

2736
03:55:48,560 --> 03:55:59,400
Okay, here we go, one more, one, one, two, three, and but there, hey, so if that's where's an angel back there, miscomersion on your heart.

2737
03:56:04,940 --> 03:56:08,780
Okay, he wants, he's the guy that's been silent.

2738
03:56:10,680 --> 03:56:14,360
So this, if we carved out that line of keys,

2739
03:56:14,480 --> 03:56:16,620
we can see it's like a green.

2740
03:56:17,320 --> 03:56:18,660
Yeah, that's what I'm going to do.

2741
03:56:18,660 --> 03:56:19,960
I'm not going to have to get the faster.

2742
03:56:21,540 --> 03:56:23,440
I'm not going to get that.

2743
03:56:23,440 --> 03:56:23,940
That's common.

2744
03:56:24,200 --> 03:56:25,740
There are about 80 stands in two votes.

2745
03:56:26,420 --> 03:56:26,680
Here.

2746
03:56:27,120 --> 03:56:28,500
There's a couple of them.

2747
03:56:29,800 --> 03:56:30,260
There's a couple of them.

2748
03:56:30,720 --> 03:56:31,340
There's a couple of them.

2749
03:56:31,360 --> 03:56:32,080
You can see.

2750
03:56:32,400 --> 03:56:32,640
You can see.

2751
03:56:32,880 --> 03:56:34,640
You know, actually, we're showing here.

2752
03:56:36,880 --> 03:56:37,340
Right there.

2753
03:56:37,340 --> 03:56:39,020
Yeah, won't show them.

2754
03:56:39,620 --> 03:56:40,260
You can pair it.

2755
03:57:52,550 --> 03:57:54,790
Like staff to do, if you would, real quick,

2756
03:57:55,010 --> 03:57:58,710
is just show us the properties that are involved

2757
03:57:59,610 --> 03:58:04,710
and what the impact would have on with tennis suggesting.

2758
03:58:18,600 --> 03:58:21,280
Can we darken the lights a little bit?

2759
03:58:22,160 --> 03:58:22,880
Get the mic.

2760
03:58:23,320 --> 03:58:24,740
On the computer, can she zoom?

2761
03:58:28,950 --> 03:58:29,150
Yeah.

2762
03:58:30,030 --> 03:58:30,190
Yeah.

2763
03:58:30,730 --> 03:58:37,530
The only thing that you're going to see now, all right, you know, you know, I'm going to wait

2764
03:58:37,530 --> 03:58:42,630
on the top of the line, the vision of the Christian World's Office, Prime Minister, and the

2765
03:58:42,630 --> 03:58:46,190
property questioned with the candidates to general right here.

2766
03:58:47,430 --> 03:58:54,550
In the testimony he stated, I'm from four, four, one, Imperial Highland and then going

2767
03:58:54,550 --> 03:59:01,130
Westward, which goes up to five or a series of addresses, the early adjacent property

2768
03:59:01,130 --> 03:59:07,130
and I'm just bearer-fighting with all of his hints is that the next lowest address is

2769
03:59:07,130 --> 03:59:14,930
435 if you rely on it, so that would be Mr. Mozart's property going down all the way to

2770
03:59:16,430 --> 03:59:32,310
for 31 and 435? Yes. So everything from 435 going east, east, east. Thank you. It would be the

2771
03:59:32,310 --> 03:59:44,190
residential designation. If the motion is upheld and then everything west to, to, to the

2772
03:59:50,570 --> 03:59:55,130
So, I make sure I grab the lights back to you.

2773
03:59:55,230 --> 03:59:59,570
Yeah, lights, lights, lights, okay. So, 435 East.

2774
04:00:00,660 --> 04:00:15,140
And that goes to Euclid, right? 435 East, to Euclid, to 440. So the 100, to 435, and that's 106, 100 West, to 435 West.

2775
04:00:15,540 --> 04:00:24,400
All right. So if I was a hot scan menu, so that's Votos property? 435 to, and I'm not sure what the address is.

2776
04:00:28,040 --> 04:00:34,080
And then you have 435 to 441, which is the industrial complex, no?

2777
04:00:34,260 --> 04:00:35,560
449 starts the industrial.

2778
04:00:36,440 --> 04:00:38,280
441 got it.

2779
04:00:38,300 --> 04:00:39,120
2 521.

2780
04:00:40,000 --> 04:00:41,720
Is there anything beyond 521?

2781
04:00:43,400 --> 04:00:43,840
Yes.

2782
04:00:44,060 --> 04:00:46,360
But I believe that's the bar in the 711.

2783
04:00:47,640 --> 04:00:49,100
And is that part of the...

2784
04:00:49,100 --> 04:00:49,320
No.

2785
04:00:50,140 --> 04:00:50,400
Okay.

2786
04:00:50,740 --> 04:00:51,420
Got it.

2787
04:00:51,420 --> 04:00:52,320
All right.

2788
04:00:52,340 --> 04:00:52,640
All right.

2789
04:00:52,640 --> 04:00:56,240
So you have Duffies in that, and the Industrial Complex, and then all residents.

2790
04:00:56,500 --> 04:00:56,820
Okay.

2791
04:00:57,160 --> 04:00:57,560
There I am.

2792
04:00:57,820 --> 04:00:58,040
Make sure.

2793
04:00:58,040 --> 04:01:05,060
So if we were to carve out four these tenants and Mr. Dirling to keep it light industrial, it

2794
04:01:05,060 --> 04:01:10,880
would be 441 to 521 West Imperial, and it changed that.

2795
04:01:10,880 --> 04:01:16,660
My motion would then be to change that designation back or to keep it as light industrial.

2796
04:01:17,460 --> 04:01:19,460
And that is what the owner testified.

2797
04:01:19,460 --> 04:01:26,220
he wanted it to stay as correct. I believe as I understood it. Yes. He's not the owner. The owner is

2798
04:01:26,220 --> 04:01:31,100
back. He's someone's representing the owner. That he represents the owner.

2799
04:01:33,840 --> 04:01:34,960
Hey, that's at your motion

2800
04:01:34,960 --> 04:01:36,040
Tim. That's my motion.

2801
04:01:38,990 --> 04:01:41,910
There is second. I'll second it.

2802
04:01:45,460 --> 04:01:47,920
Counts member Shaw. Yes. Counts member

2803
04:01:47,920 --> 04:01:53,620
Espinoza. Yes. Counts member Gomez. I'm within 300 feet. So I have to abstain.

2804
04:01:57,840 --> 04:02:03,620
I'm a Pacific Avenue, and I'm right by the Walgreens, so that I've actually had an 80 feet.

2805
04:02:04,820 --> 04:02:05,260
Yeah.

2806
04:02:07,320 --> 04:02:07,760
Okay.

2807
04:02:08,100 --> 04:02:11,280
I mean, if I go to prison, you're going to pay my bail be on.

2808
04:02:11,340 --> 04:02:12,620
I'm going to copy a piece.

2809
04:02:13,000 --> 04:02:14,200
I'll bring you a chance.

2810
04:02:15,280 --> 04:02:17,900
But is the Walgreens property what's being voted on?

2811
04:02:18,240 --> 04:02:19,760
It's all part of that all in constant.

2812
04:02:20,280 --> 04:02:20,960
No, no, no, no.

2813
04:02:20,960 --> 04:02:27,160
It's everything other than the Walgreens, so you're probably okay to vote on this because it's not you're not the Walgreens

2814
04:02:27,160 --> 04:02:32,900
It's gonna stay whatever the recommendation on the general plan is and not the opinion of council is as

2815
04:02:32,900 --> 04:02:36,780
That you can vote on okay. No

2816
04:02:40,190 --> 04:02:42,470
pro-tem pleasy no

2817
04:02:44,840 --> 04:02:47,500
Marry comment. Maro

2818
04:02:48,320 --> 04:02:51,820
Okay, so Rose and Tim vote. Yes

2819
04:03:00,230 --> 04:03:00,710
If

2820
04:03:06,560 --> 04:03:14,680
I had this right, if I voted yes, they can come back the owner and always ask us to amend it again right.

2821
04:03:19,580 --> 04:03:21,140
Do you want to ask more questions?

2822
04:03:21,940 --> 04:03:22,000
No.

2823
04:03:22,460 --> 04:03:23,100
Although yes.

2824
04:03:24,340 --> 04:03:27,280
So that keeps that designation for that one property.

2825
04:03:30,340 --> 04:03:31,180
There's multiple.

2826
04:03:31,500 --> 04:03:34,240
There's three properties that kind of three are full in the butt.

2827
04:03:34,320 --> 04:03:36,180
So it's kind of the commercial industrial property.

2828
04:03:44,710 --> 04:03:48,530
Mr. Mayor, I would like to make a motion to do the environmental impact report, approve

2829
04:03:48,530 --> 04:03:51,510
an adoptive resolution and title resolution of the City Council.

2830
04:03:51,910 --> 04:04:03,170
The City of La Habara certifying the environmental impact report EIR 13-201-201-2092, which includes

2831
04:04:03,170 --> 04:04:09,610
finding the facts statement of overriding considerations and mitigated monitoring and reporting

2832
04:04:09,610 --> 04:04:16,710
program for the Haber General Plan 2035-2014-2021, housing element and climate action

2833
04:04:16,710 --> 04:04:17,350
plan.

2834
04:04:18,950 --> 04:04:19,990
Say as amended.

2835
04:04:21,630 --> 04:04:22,010
As amended.

2836
04:04:23,570 --> 04:04:24,070
As amended.

2837
04:04:24,570 --> 04:04:24,690
As amended.

2838
04:04:24,690 --> 04:04:25,010
Friendly.

2839
04:04:27,250 --> 04:04:28,130
Councilmember Gomez.

2840
04:04:28,330 --> 04:04:28,610
Yes.

2841
04:04:28,830 --> 04:04:29,990
Mayor Pro Tim Blaise.

2842
04:04:30,630 --> 04:04:31,910
Councilmember Espinoza.

2843
04:04:32,210 --> 04:04:32,470
Yes.

2844
04:04:32,470 --> 04:04:37,970
House member Shaw. Yes. Mr. Mayor, for the like to make a motion to the General Plan

2845
04:04:37,970 --> 04:04:43,110
of Provin Doppers. Okay. Okay. Yes.

2846
04:04:45,230 --> 04:04:51,290
Approving to Dr. Resolution in Title of Resolution of the City of Hover, adopting the city

2847
04:04:51,290 --> 04:04:57,010
of the Hover General Plan 2035 as set forth in exhibit A and B. Second.

2848
04:04:57,010 --> 04:04:58,250
I'll do this.

2849
04:05:01,680 --> 04:05:03,520
Councilmember Gomez. Yes.

2850
04:05:03,560 --> 04:05:06,980
Councilmember Belazy. Yes. Mayor B. Mish. Yes.

2851
04:05:07,600 --> 04:05:10,720
Councilmember Espinoza. Yes. Councilmember Shaw. Yes.

2852
04:05:11,060 --> 04:05:13,160
You're more questions, Mayor? You're okay.

2853
04:05:13,920 --> 04:05:16,900
How's he now, but a proven doctor, resolution and title, a resolution.

2854
04:05:17,380 --> 04:05:21,460
Mayor B. Mish on the previous action is should be as modified.

2855
04:05:22,200 --> 04:05:23,600
That's correct. That's correct.

2856
04:05:24,800 --> 04:05:26,440
I think that's what Jim said.

2857
04:05:26,440 --> 04:05:35,440
As a matter of fact, City Council, the City of O'Habra adopting the 2014-2021 drafted housing

2858
04:05:35,440 --> 04:05:40,540
element set forth an exhibit A and directs a middle of the document to the California Department

2859
04:05:40,540 --> 04:05:44,300
of Housing and the Community Development for certification is required by state law.

2860
04:05:46,870 --> 04:05:47,430
Seconds.

2861
04:05:47,430 --> 04:05:48,490
Is that as amended?

2862
04:05:48,750 --> 04:05:48,930
Yes.

2863
04:05:48,930 --> 04:05:49,650
Is that as amended?

2864
04:05:50,810 --> 04:05:50,990
No.

2865
04:05:51,490 --> 04:05:51,630
Okay.

2866
04:05:51,930 --> 04:05:52,190
No.

2867
04:05:52,470 --> 04:05:53,210
Can we do that?

2868
04:05:53,350 --> 04:05:53,830
We're good.

2869
04:05:54,050 --> 04:05:54,330
Make a vote.

2870
04:05:56,010 --> 04:05:56,490
Yes.

2871
04:05:58,450 --> 04:05:58,930
Yes.

2872
04:06:02,510 --> 04:06:02,670
Yes.

2873
04:06:02,750 --> 04:06:03,250
Mayor Beamish.

2874
04:06:04,150 --> 04:06:07,130
Further like to make a motion to climb an action plan to prove adopt resolution.

2875
04:06:07,810 --> 04:06:09,430
And title resolution city council.

2876
04:06:09,750 --> 04:06:11,030
The city of Robert Doppin.

2877
04:06:11,230 --> 04:06:12,630
The city of Robert climate.

2878
04:06:13,530 --> 04:06:15,830
Action plan as set fourth and exhibit.

2879
04:06:16,830 --> 04:06:17,310
Second.

2880
04:06:18,410 --> 04:06:19,510
That's as it is.

2881
04:06:19,970 --> 04:06:23,310
And I'd further like to make a motion just so we have it on the record.

2882
04:06:23,310 --> 04:06:29,150
that we have taken into consideration those other actions to all the motion that I made so we don't

2883
04:06:29,150 --> 04:06:31,670
have to come back and vote again in the future day.

2884
04:06:33,290 --> 04:06:34,670
Councillor GOMIS?

2885
04:06:34,750 --> 04:06:35,170
Yes.

2886
04:06:36,270 --> 04:06:38,370
I'm getting I have it.

2887
04:06:38,610 --> 04:06:39,090
Are we good?

2888
04:06:39,270 --> 04:06:40,710
Mayor Pro Tim Blazy.

2889
04:06:42,170 --> 04:06:43,050
Councillor GOMIS.

2890
04:06:43,530 --> 04:06:43,970
Yes.

2891
04:06:44,710 --> 04:06:45,590
Councillor GOMIS.

2892
04:06:46,230 --> 04:06:46,810
Councillor GOMIS.

2893
04:06:47,270 --> 04:06:47,370
Yes.

2894
04:06:49,930 --> 04:06:50,390
Thank you.

2895
04:06:50,570 --> 04:06:52,670
Thank you to those of the Chief Pack that are here.

2896
04:06:52,930 --> 04:06:53,590
A lot of hard work.

2897
04:06:53,590 --> 04:06:55,290
When you think about it, three changes.

2898
04:06:56,410 --> 04:06:56,810
Thank you.

2899
04:07:01,770 --> 04:07:02,570
Thank you.

2900
04:07:02,570 --> 04:07:05,310
Thank you all for coming tonight and having your say.

2901
04:07:05,430 --> 04:07:06,310
Oh, you're not going to leave.

2902
04:07:06,470 --> 04:07:09,030
Not quite as long as the cost will meet him, but pretty close.

2903
04:07:12,870 --> 04:07:13,470
Thank you.

2904
04:07:13,570 --> 04:07:14,630
Thank you, Woody, for you and your team.

2905
04:07:15,110 --> 04:07:15,270
Appreciate it.

2906
04:07:15,770 --> 04:07:16,690
Yeah, we did.

2907
04:07:16,830 --> 04:07:17,410
It's rolled right along.

2908
04:07:17,590 --> 04:07:19,130
And we'll go to consideration items.

2909
04:07:19,390 --> 04:07:23,090
Any member of the audience may request the council on any consideration item.

2910
04:07:23,150 --> 04:07:25,870
Prior to the city council taking a final vote on the item.

2911
04:07:25,870 --> 04:07:30,550
The mayor will invite interested persons to come forward to podium and speak as each item is called,

2912
04:07:30,750 --> 04:07:32,990
speakers must limit their comments to three minutes each.

2913
04:07:33,450 --> 04:07:39,070
We have one consideration, one expiring stream, and one unscheduled vacancy of the Community Services Commission.

2914
04:07:39,790 --> 04:07:42,590
I would forgo the staff report and say we should interview everybody.

2915
04:07:43,070 --> 04:07:45,230
Well, let's ask the public to testify.

2916
04:07:46,010 --> 04:07:49,010
Well, that's true. Does anybody in the public want to testify?

2917
04:07:50,270 --> 04:07:50,750
Didn't think so.

2918
04:07:50,750 --> 04:07:57,870
I'd like to offer a staff to advertise one expiring term of one unscheduled vacancy on the Community Service Commission and schedule interviews.

2919
04:07:58,030 --> 04:07:58,550
Second.

2920
04:08:02,240 --> 04:08:02,540
Okay.

2921
04:08:02,840 --> 04:08:03,540
Council Member Gomez.

2922
04:08:04,960 --> 04:08:05,440
Two second.

2923
04:08:06,080 --> 04:08:06,280
Sure.

2924
04:08:07,580 --> 04:08:08,700
I may or did.

2925
04:08:10,580 --> 04:08:11,340
Mayor Beamish.

2926
04:08:12,260 --> 04:08:13,440
Council Member Espanosa.

2927
04:08:14,220 --> 04:08:15,080
Council Member Shaw.

2928
04:08:15,220 --> 04:08:15,480
Yes.

2929
04:08:16,260 --> 04:08:17,380
Mayor Pro Tim Blaise.

2930
04:08:17,500 --> 04:08:17,740
Yes.

2931
04:08:18,680 --> 04:08:20,740
You want to just give a community calendar?

2932
04:08:21,600 --> 04:08:22,280
Just go to everything.

2933
04:08:22,940 --> 04:08:23,120
No.

2934
04:08:23,120 --> 04:08:27,600
Mayor's calendar. Mayor's meeting calendar.

2935
04:08:28,240 --> 04:08:29,080
I have to just be hungry.

2936
04:08:29,600 --> 04:08:30,740
Is there going to come up?

2937
04:08:31,060 --> 04:08:32,340
Just go to the website.

2938
04:08:35,620 --> 04:08:36,980
There we are.

2939
04:08:37,200 --> 04:08:38,760
Have a question. Give me a call.

2940
04:08:42,040 --> 04:08:43,220
Target free sending.

2941
04:08:43,940 --> 04:08:45,180
Send me every second.

2942
04:08:45,500 --> 04:08:47,400
There's the information and it's on the website.

2943
04:08:48,300 --> 04:08:49,280
Celebrate African-American.

2944
04:08:49,800 --> 04:08:54,720
for Yard Triedays, Robert Jones Museum, Family Arts Center 113,

2945
04:08:55,500 --> 04:08:58,280
Museum Inhibition Call, that fun over there.

2946
04:08:59,380 --> 04:09:00,960
Community Center kids might out.

2947
04:09:01,240 --> 04:09:04,260
It's good event, 6 to 10 30 PM, Veterans Hall.

2948
04:09:04,920 --> 04:09:06,180
Kids, it's all about the kids.

2949
04:09:06,340 --> 04:09:09,200
So if you want to register, then call that number up there.

2950
04:09:12,000 --> 04:09:14,840
5K 10K run, walk, come run with the mayor,

2951
04:09:15,220 --> 04:09:16,260
and walk with Sandy Walters.

2952
04:09:17,580 --> 04:09:18,400
That's cool.

2953
04:09:19,720 --> 04:09:20,780
Are you running now?

2954
04:09:23,840 --> 04:09:29,960
March 22nd, Community Calendar, Aegean Stravaganza, City Function, Lions are involved with that

2955
04:09:29,960 --> 04:09:33,420
Lobbony at a park on April 19th, a lot of fun, great crowd last year.

2956
04:09:33,560 --> 04:09:38,100
Please note the venue change, Lobbony at a park this year.

2957
04:09:38,280 --> 04:09:38,740
Thank you.

2958
04:09:39,040 --> 04:09:44,580
It was at the Lions Park, so we have to change that.

2959
04:09:45,140 --> 04:09:48,420
meeting's February 3rd February 18th come on down their early enjoyable.

2960
04:09:51,220 --> 04:09:51,580
Is that it?

2961
04:09:53,920 --> 04:09:57,120
Well, I know Jim is disappointed but the meeting is now adjourned time.

2962
04:09:57,120 --> 04:09:58,460
No, no, but we have my meetings.

2963
04:09:58,600 --> 04:09:59,640
This meeting is adjourned.

2964
04:10:01,320 --> 04:10:29,760
Comments from all of them. I'd just like to say happy new year to everyone, glad to be back. Hope you are there. Wonderful holiday. At the same time, I'd like to adjourn in memory of a number of people that passed away. Ralph Edward Garcia, born on January 10, 1969, and passed away November 26, 2013. His mother, Yolanda Garcia, a former resident of Lahabra,

2965
04:10:29,760 --> 04:10:37,120
volunteered in many nonprofit organizations and so her son followed his

2966
04:10:37,640 --> 04:10:43,460
her footsteps in volunteering as well so our condolences go to their family also

2967
04:10:43,460 --> 04:10:50,040
line a Luna a long time resident of Lahabra went attended Wilson School I

2968
04:10:50,040 --> 04:10:55,740
believe lived in the Red Camp as well with Mary to his former wife Mercedes

2969
04:10:55,740 --> 04:11:04,580
who had passed away before him. Born June 24th, 1927, passed away December 28, 2013, has five children

2970
04:11:04,580 --> 04:11:12,940
handy, Henry Theresa, Gloria Arthur, and Lionel Luna. And another John Benjamin Torres,

2971
04:11:13,700 --> 04:11:23,040
born April 12, 1964, passed away December 29, 2013, his mother, Eva, and John Torres. And of course,

2972
04:11:23,040 --> 04:11:28,580
John as well in the sisters were a long time residents of La Harbra as well.

2973
04:11:29,260 --> 04:11:36,060
And also Miguel A. Belize, born April 14, 1961, passed away December 27,

2974
04:11:38,080 --> 04:11:39,040
2013, lived in

2975
04:11:39,040 --> 04:11:45,060
La Harbra 30 plus years. He has left his former wife, Jessica, and has two children, Luis

2976
04:11:45,060 --> 04:11:51,260
Miguel, and Brian Byron, Edward Belize, and so our condolences go to them as well.

2977
04:11:52,540 --> 04:11:56,780
So, Rose, do you have those written down or I'm not sure you did?

2978
04:11:56,780 --> 04:11:56,880
I did.

2979
04:11:57,580 --> 04:11:57,880
I don't know.

2980
04:11:57,980 --> 04:11:58,480
Pass that down.

2981
04:12:01,180 --> 04:12:06,560
My little comments are to think those who served on our General Planet Advisory Committee

2982
04:12:07,380 --> 04:12:10,520
and are all the staff and consultants who are so hard on that.

2983
04:12:10,740 --> 04:12:11,700
Thank you.

2984
04:12:14,490 --> 04:12:16,550
Again, thanks to staff, everybody in the GPAC committee.

2985
04:12:17,050 --> 04:12:18,370
A couple of deaths I'd like to recognize.

2986
04:12:18,450 --> 04:12:20,650
I'm going to turn in the memory of Joe Lassdition.

2987
04:12:21,030 --> 04:12:23,730
A long time, advocate for youth sports.

2988
04:12:23,730 --> 04:12:27,470
You can see him in all the Sonora and Lavera High School football and basketball games.

2989
04:12:27,890 --> 04:12:33,570
He was a former board member of the Lavera Lillig and also Girl Softball, so we're going

2990
04:12:33,570 --> 04:12:36,170
to miss a Joe when the Arkansas Squad was wife Kathy.

2991
04:12:37,110 --> 04:12:42,690
On a sad note today, Larry Rush's wife has married to Dorothy Rush former council member

2992
04:12:42,690 --> 04:12:43,890
passed away this morning.

2993
04:12:43,990 --> 04:12:46,970
He had some problems with his heart and other medical issues.

2994
04:12:47,110 --> 04:12:49,170
Unfortunately, Larry passed away this morning.

2995
04:12:49,170 --> 04:12:53,190
And lives down the street from east of our condolences go out to the entire Rush family.

2996
04:12:56,820 --> 04:12:59,800
Congratulations once again to all the holiday decorating awardees.

2997
04:12:59,920 --> 04:13:03,460
And I want to thank the beautification committee for all the work that they do.

2998
04:13:03,700 --> 04:13:05,920
And putting that on some of the other things in the community.

2999
04:13:06,800 --> 04:13:10,040
I too would like to encourage the community to come out and support our seniors by attending

3000
04:13:10,040 --> 04:13:12,580
Post-Afest on Saturday at February 8.

3001
04:13:13,520 --> 04:13:15,040
RSVPs are due this Saturday.

3002
04:13:15,440 --> 04:13:20,560
And once again you can call a van a sharp at 714-32265-875.

3003
04:13:20,560 --> 04:13:22,680
and for tickets or information.

3004
04:13:24,100 --> 04:13:27,480
In case you've missed it, the call is out for the 2014 Miss La Haber

3005
04:13:27,480 --> 04:13:28,200
and her court.

3006
04:13:28,360 --> 04:13:32,440
The bad news is that applications must be postmarked or turned in at

3007
04:13:32,440 --> 04:13:34,480
the La Haber Chamber no later than tomorrow.

3008
04:13:35,120 --> 04:13:37,280
So if you know likely candidate out there,

3009
04:13:37,420 --> 04:13:39,660
please vacate them, know the time and short,

3010
04:13:40,620 --> 04:13:44,240
and then the 66th pageant will be held on March 22nd.

3011
04:13:44,560 --> 04:13:47,760
And finally, I want to give a quick shout out to Father Justin McCarty,

3012
04:13:47,760 --> 04:13:51,360
who recently announced his retirement effect of the summer.

3013
04:13:52,160 --> 04:13:57,260
His years as pastor have exemplified what it means to be part of a caring community.

3014
04:13:57,420 --> 04:14:02,160
And I know that we'll all miss his smiling presence in our community once he finally

3015
04:14:02,160 --> 04:14:04,680
rides off into the sunset in a golf cart.

3016
04:14:05,580 --> 04:14:05,980
So that's it.

3017
04:14:05,980 --> 04:14:09,300
Father McCarthy, richly and regularly watches these kinds of things.

3018
04:14:09,300 --> 04:14:10,720
You know that's why it's loud out.

3019
04:14:11,060 --> 04:14:12,180
So hello Father McCarthy.

3020
04:14:13,600 --> 04:14:15,360
So congratulations to Father McCarthy.

3021
04:14:15,440 --> 04:14:16,600
I should have mentioned that as well.

3022
04:14:16,600 --> 04:14:23,380
He does a lot for this community and I'm sure they're going to miss him and certainly may or if you consider bringing him into a council meeting before he

3023
04:14:24,640 --> 04:14:25,520
leaves and

3024
04:14:25,520 --> 04:14:31,940
Recognize them that'd be great. Okay, step, make another that we'll do that. And let's do a nice frame. Let's do something nice

3025
04:14:33,340 --> 04:14:38,500
Then I would like to adjourn this city council meeting in the name of Ralfid, Wood Garcia

3026
04:14:38,500 --> 04:14:46,140
Lionel Luna John Benjamin Torres and Miguel Valese and Larry Rush and Joe less Titian

3027
04:14:46,620 --> 04:14:50,060
good. We need to adjourn in their names. Thank you very much.