1 00:00:02,159 --> 00:00:08,400 of the mate. We pay favor respects to our first nations and matey ances 2 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:15,200 and reaffirm our relationship with one another. We'll move to the adoption of 3 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:19,960 the agenda. So any changes to the agenda convinced also move 4 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,640 in favor. 5 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:33,880 We move to adoption the minutes of the special meeting held on the 11th of 6 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:33,880 August 7 00:00:34,559 --> 00:00:42,559 and move as presented also move as presented 8 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:45,559 second favor 9 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:56,719 now move to delegation public hearings and we have into the lead cand 10 00:01:01,039 --> 00:01:07,760 Yeah, I might just stand actually if that's okay. 11 00:01:05,199 --> 00:01:11,439 All righty. Well, good evening, Mayor and Council. 12 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:17,520 Thank you very much for having us this evening. My name is Megan. I'm the CEO 13 00:01:14,479 --> 00:01:22,720 and co-owner of Into the Weeds Cannabis. And thank you very much for the 14 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:28,960 opportunity to present to you today. So into the weeds cannabis is a 100% uh 15 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:34,400 Saskatchewan owned company with a background in retail pharmacy, grocery, 16 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:39,200 liquor, and now retail cannabis. We are also majority female owned and operated. 17 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:43,600 This is something we are very proud of. We understand that operating businesses 18 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:47,360 in Saskatchewan and communities, including smaller communities, and we 19 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:51,840 understand that being a good local business means more than simply opening 20 00:01:49,119 --> 00:01:56,880 a door and making sales. Today, we operate nine cannabis retail stores 21 00:01:54,240 --> 00:02:00,799 across Saskatchewan. That experience has given us a strong understanding of 22 00:01:58,719 --> 00:02:06,200 regulated retail cannabis and what it takes to operate responsibly in 23 00:02:02,799 --> 00:02:06,200 different communities. 24 00:02:06,240 --> 00:02:12,800 Here's a quick glance at our executive team, which consists of myself and my 25 00:02:10,479 --> 00:02:18,000 sister Jenna, who's here with me today. As I said, we are a majority femaleowned 26 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:21,280 and operated company. And because we are a family-owned business, we are 27 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:25,760 personally invested in the success of the company and in the communities where 28 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:29,760 we operate. We are not a large outside corporation coming into a community and 29 00:02:27,920 --> 00:02:35,040 handing over the operation to someone else. We are directly involved in the 30 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:39,040 business, our stores, our employees, and our community relationships. That 31 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:43,160 personal involvement is something we would bring with us to Laur. 32 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:51,599 Here we have a glance at some of our current locations which include our 33 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:55,840 Kraton, Saskatoon, Devdon, and Big River location. One thing these locations 34 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:59,599 demonstrate is that our stores are designed to fit into the communities 35 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:02,319 where they operate. We have experience working with different types of 36 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:06,560 buildings and different community environments. We take pride in 37 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:10,640 maintaining professional, secure, and welcoming retail spaces. Our goal in the 38 00:03:09,360 --> 00:03:16,480 range would be to bring that same approach to the proposed location. 39 00:03:13,519 --> 00:03:20,879 And next we have our Spiritwood, Melfort, Langenburgg, and Birch Hills 40 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:26,319 locations. Then one more down we have our newest 41 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:30,720 location which is in Nippoin. We just opened in April. I'd also like to point 42 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:35,519 out that we are one of three stores in Nippoin which has a lesser population of 43 00:03:32,959 --> 00:03:42,080 Laurange. So, and next up here we have a proposed 44 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:46,560 location for Lange at 516 Lange Avenue. This property is located in the downtown 45 00:03:44,159 --> 00:03:50,400 commercial area. Our intention is to invest in this existing commercial 46 00:03:48,159 --> 00:03:56,159 property and renovate and improve it for use as a retail cannabis store. 47 00:03:54,159 --> 00:04:01,120 Next up, we do have a letter of support from the property owner, Penny, which I 48 00:03:58,319 --> 00:04:05,920 will read aloud to you now. Dear Lange Mayor and Town Council, my 49 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:10,560 name is Penny Spoolie, owner of Penny's Hair Design. I have lived in Lange since 50 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:15,840 1988 and have provided a service to our community and in North for 38 years. I 51 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:19,680 put my heart and soul into my business for many years. And now I'm ready to 52 00:04:17,840 --> 00:04:23,919 sell my building and property and move on to the next chapter. I have accepted 53 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:28,880 an offer to purchase my building from a reputable business person wanting to 54 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:32,320 open a new store location in Lrange for my commercial property to sell. The new 55 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:36,720 owner needs to be approved for a business license by the town of Lrange 56 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:41,040 to operate their store at 516 Lange Avenue. This location is in the middle 57 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:45,759 of the commercial district of downtown Lange or two other similar stores 58 00:04:43,280 --> 00:04:50,240 currently operate. There are no bylaws prohibiting a third business of this 59 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:54,720 kind in the town of Lange and I support their ability to enter a fair, open, 60 00:04:52,639 --> 00:04:58,639 competitive market. I don't believe Langetown Council should protect the 61 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:03,360 current two operations from a new competitor entering the market and thus 62 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:07,840 prohibit my building from selling. My property has been listed for sale on the 63 00:05:05,199 --> 00:05:12,080 multiple listing service for 156 days and this is the only buyer to make an 64 00:05:09,840 --> 00:05:15,919 offer to date. Please consider your application for a business license and 65 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:23,639 support my ability to transition to retirement after 38 years of service to 66 00:05:18,720 --> 00:05:23,639 our community. Best regards, Penn. 67 00:05:23,759 --> 00:05:30,160 Okay, next up, so jumping back into the presentation, uh we do want to make one 68 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:34,720 point very clear that this application is not about introducing cannabis to 69 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:38,320 Lange. Retail cannabis is currently available in the community. So the 70 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:42,639 question is not whether cannabis will exist in Lange as it already does. Our 71 00:05:41,039 --> 00:05:46,880 application would simply add another license option for consumers and allow 72 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:51,680 for additional consumer choice and business competition. And we believe 73 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:55,000 that that distinction is important. Next up, 74 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:02,479 so we also want to address some community and safety concerns. A 75 00:06:00,639 --> 00:06:07,440 licensed cannabis store is not elicit drug activity. Retail cannabis operates 76 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:11,440 under strict provincial regulations. Sales are age restricted. Stores are 77 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:15,680 licensed and monitored by regulators and the retail environment is secure. 78 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:19,919 Licensed cannabis retailers operate openly, transparently, and under 79 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:23,520 government oversight. That is the environment that we operate in at our 80 00:06:21,759 --> 00:06:29,440 existing stores and that is a standard that we would bring to the range. 81 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:33,759 Next up here we have our community involvement slide. So community 82 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:37,919 involvement is a very important part of how we operate our business across 83 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:43,199 Saskatchewan. We have already supported a number of local organizations and 84 00:06:40,240 --> 00:06:47,919 community initiatives. And some examples of our involvement this year include 85 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:52,639 $1,500 donation to the Devdon Recreation Board, sponsorship of the Nest Creek 86 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:56,080 Music Festival in Big River, donations to the Kraton and Fire Department for 87 00:06:54,479 --> 00:07:00,479 their work during the devastating fires in the north last year, donations of 88 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:04,720 microwaves to the Devdon community school, and Christmas turkeys for the 89 00:07:02,639 --> 00:07:10,319 Devdon Matter Senior's Home in addition to many more. If we are approved in 90 00:07:07,759 --> 00:07:16,234 Lanch, our intention is to become active supporters of local organizations and 91 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:19,840 community initiatives here as well. [clears throat] 92 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:23,840 And to finish, I would like to summarize why we believe approving this 93 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:28,400 application would benefit Lange. First, it represents investment in a downtown 94 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:32,560 commercial property. It supports a local property sale and allows the current 95 00:07:29,919 --> 00:07:37,199 owner to move forward with her plans. It contributes property tax revenue and 96 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:41,120 creates local employment opportunities. And we would also be renovating and 97 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:46,240 approving an existing building which puts an existing commercial property 98 00:07:43,039 --> 00:07:50,800 back into active use. And importantly, approving approving another licensed 99 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:55,120 cannabis retailer does not mean creating more cannabis use in Lange. It simply 100 00:07:53,360 --> 00:08:00,000 means giving adults who already choose to consume cannabis another safe, legal, 101 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:03,840 and regulated place to purchase it. We believe that this is a straightforward 102 00:08:01,599 --> 00:08:08,400 opportunity to bring another responsible locally owned Saskatchewan business into 103 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:12,479 our own. We have the experience and the proven track record across Saskatchewan 104 00:08:10,639 --> 00:08:17,360 and we have the support of the property owner and we are prepared to invest in 105 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:21,520 the property community. Thank you for your time and for considering our 106 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:27,440 application and we would be very proud to be a part of Laurent. 107 00:08:25,199 --> 00:08:30,800 I guess I can stay here if anybody has any questions for me. 108 00:08:36,159 --> 00:08:40,159 If there's no questions likely because you covered everything in your 109 00:08:39,039 --> 00:08:44,560 presentation, >> I hope so. 110 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:47,839 » My only thing was Nipoint's population is 5,033. 111 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:51,680 » Yes. >> Our population is 2668. 112 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:55,600 » Sorry, I should have said in the tri community area. The surrounding 113 00:08:53,440 --> 00:09:01,360 population I guess as well. >> Yes. 114 00:08:57,839 --> 00:09:04,720 So with two other shops in existence, yes, there's still a market. 115 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:08,560 » Yes. >> Share to capture. 116 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:14,800 » There is. Yes. Especially with the surrounding area. Um there are other 117 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:18,959 areas that are more saturated as well. Um I'd also like to point out I guess 118 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:23,839 too that of the stores that are here, they are actually larger groups than 119 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:29,279 into the weeds. Um both groups have 10 plus stores as well as us. Um, so yeah, 120 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:33,440 we based off of the population and our current experience in stores that we're 121 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:38,320 in, it definitely would be viable to have more than two stores here. 122 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:41,760 » How much competition do you have in some of the other sites? 123 00:09:39,920 --> 00:09:47,120 » Um, we definitely do. So like we have competition in Kraton. So we we mostly 124 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:51,519 target rural smaller Saskatchewan. Um, rural areas much smaller than Lange even 125 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:56,240 like Debbon for example, Birch Hills, Langenburg. Um, so a lot of the areas 126 00:09:53,680 --> 00:09:59,760 that we're in have one store, but some of the other communities that we're in 127 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:04,320 have two to three. And then as well as say like Saskatoon, there's 40 plus 128 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:08,600 stores. More than to importance for a fun fact. [laughter] Yeah. 129 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:16,440 » Well, thanks for your presentation. 130 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:24,932 » Deliberate again further down. Okay. Okay. 131 00:10:22,912 --> 00:10:24,932 » [clears throat] 132 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:38,519 » Okay, we'll have a motion to enter in committee. 133 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:47,399 » All in favor? Carried. 134 00:10:47,839 --> 00:10:56,120 I guess we'll enter in discussions about the budget. 135 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:56,120 That's pretty early in the year. 136 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:03,120 » Timelines. >> We got some timelines that are done 137 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:08,160 there. Um I've already started getting all my preliminary manuals ready. U got 138 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:13,839 the draft sheets ready to hand out to everyone. Um, so basically we got the 139 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:20,240 timelines listed there starting pretty much tomorrow all the way till 140 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:23,920 November 23rd when everything gets similar to the last few years. Uh, we're 141 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:28,720 same thing we're going to have our budget open houses 142 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:33,519 um dates. Um, 143 00:11:31,680 --> 00:11:38,160 looking at there there's a few differences that we're uh going through. 144 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:46,079 uh wages were probably going to be around the 5% increase um estimating 145 00:11:42,399 --> 00:11:49,079 based on the CPI so far this year. Um 146 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,320 yeah, so 147 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:58,959 everything listed there. Does anyone have any questions about the budget 148 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:01,959 process? upset. 149 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:07,360 » Okay. >> Yeah. I guess it's, you know, it's nice 150 00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:12,560 to be proactive and I know you got a number of things that, you know, may be 151 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:18,320 affected by things in the market or whatever. So, that's I I like the 152 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:22,320 approach and I think it's good. They have the open house plan sometime in 153 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:31,120 between the 3rd and the 17th of November. So, uh, we'll be well underway 154 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:35,920 and get public input into that and, uh, the final adjustments potentially in 155 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:38,880 December, which be ready to go for January 1. 156 00:12:36,959 --> 00:12:46,000 » Yeah, that's right. Hit the ground running with the challenges that we 157 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:50,839 faced in the last year. I think done pretty well, 158 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,839 » I think. So, 159 00:12:51,680 --> 00:12:54,160 » okay. 160 00:12:56,480 --> 00:13:00,200 I don't have any comments. 161 00:13:07,974 --> 00:13:15,839 » [laughter] >> I have 162 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:20,240 the update on the kind of date. >> This is just I guess a general date as 163 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:25,600 to where things are at. So back in uh November 2025. Uh we entered into a list 164 00:13:23,680 --> 00:13:31,120 agreement with Little Bear Early Learning Center to operate out of the 165 00:13:28,560 --> 00:13:35,519 previous high schools space at Mel Gunlex. And I know we've been looking 166 00:13:32,959 --> 00:13:41,120 hard to uh get some funding to do some rentals and uh get operational there 167 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:46,480 because we know that uh there's a need here right now for daycare spots. Um and 168 00:13:44,399 --> 00:13:52,399 just just as a reminder really just to know that uh the lease came into effect 169 00:13:49,279 --> 00:13:57,760 technically uh this August 1st, so just a couple weeks ago. Uh and they have 170 00:13:54,560 --> 00:14:02,320 installed December 31st of this year um before they have to start like doing uh 171 00:13:59,839 --> 00:14:05,920 payments to the town. So, we're suing to hear something concrete back from them 172 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:10,800 if they're moving ahead with some renovations and have the plug in to do 173 00:14:07,680 --> 00:14:15,199 so or if they're not able to at that point. And so, December 31st is really 174 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:19,360 what the part is there and then the lease payments kick in. We're assuming 175 00:14:17,279 --> 00:14:23,279 that they're not going to start those lease payments without having the 176 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:27,040 funding secured. Um and then on the other side of things, uh as we've uh 177 00:14:25,199 --> 00:14:31,440 heard North Atlant College back in March, uh they do have some funding 178 00:14:28,959 --> 00:14:36,959 secured for daycare spaces in the region. I think up to 90 seats is what 179 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:42,560 they were uh what they had received funding for. Um I'll say approximately 180 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:49,040 though. Um that was back in March and uh I know that they they are planning uh 181 00:14:46,639 --> 00:14:54,000 how they're going to meet that need. Uh at the time we heard that uh 182 00:14:52,320 --> 00:15:00,360 hear something more concrete in April and we're certainly looking forward to 183 00:14:56,320 --> 00:15:00,360 hearing an update from 184 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:06,240 the last they were going to break it up into 30 185 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:10,320 units were going to be at the river campus 186 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:15,360 renovation done there. Soon as they completed that then they were going to 187 00:15:11,839 --> 00:15:20,079 move on to the bigger phase which looks like there's some interest in the 188 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:24,720 in the property next to the front office here. So that that won't happen till the 189 00:15:21,839 --> 00:15:32,639 other one is completed. >> They've given no timelines for that. 190 00:15:28,320 --> 00:15:36,760 » I think we're into spring completion spring at the end of campus. 191 00:15:41,279 --> 00:15:47,000 We'll move on to the uh the highway science. 192 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:57,440 Things have changed I guess with the chamber not operation anymore and so I 193 00:15:55,040 --> 00:16:01,880 guess we got some decisions ahead of us in terms of how we want to operate that 194 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:08,156 want to lead that conversation [laughter] 195 00:16:08,399 --> 00:16:14,160 not touching up I mean there are some questions there to 196 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:18,880 lead the conversation the background is there um first and foremost we're just 197 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:23,040 confirming that you want to see that program continue and that you're not 198 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:28,160 looking to discontinue having signs in the community and uh if so we've got a 199 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:32,560 number of questions there just to give us some guidance on how you'd like to 200 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:38,480 see it administered going forward administration heard that the chamber 201 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:41,480 was going to dissolve so we contacted guess 202 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:49,120 about taking it over and so we received you know this current uh tenants Yeah, 203 00:16:47,199 --> 00:16:53,040 invoicing things of this nature. We were already undertaking to do the invoicing 204 00:16:50,639 --> 00:16:57,120 for 2026. It wasn't completed by the chamber for this year. We took an 205 00:16:54,880 --> 00:17:01,199 inventory and drew a map as you've seen, took photographs and all this sort of 206 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:05,360 thing so we could inform this report and talk to these uh talk to council about 207 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:12,000 these issues and let them move forward with something to bring back 208 00:17:07,839 --> 00:17:17,520 future management of the of the port. Did I am I understand that correctly 209 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:21,439 that there are no signed agreements in place for any of the existing signs? Is 210 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:24,959 that what I read was reading? >> That's my all 211 00:17:22,319 --> 00:17:28,960 » not a single one. No, that was the response I got when I asked the chamber 212 00:17:26,559 --> 00:17:33,200 and the but of course that is something we could look at doing moving forward 213 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:38,960 and and uh you know obviously that would give current tenants an opportunity to 214 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:43,440 sign multi-year lease agreements maybe with some increases that are that are uh 215 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:46,720 played out over the over the years to come because we've also done some 216 00:17:44,799 --> 00:17:50,720 research in that regard and the rents that we char are charging are cheap when 217 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:57,520 we look at others throughout the province maybe not so much 218 00:17:53,360 --> 00:18:01,520 married to our neighbors to the south corridor. Of course, we also have a ban 219 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:04,960 corridor there. As you probably noticed, a lot of the stuff that's advertised 220 00:18:02,799 --> 00:18:11,600 there related specifically to the ban in some way, shape, or form. 221 00:18:08,080 --> 00:18:13,520 » So, do right on near the landfill. >> Correct. 222 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:16,080 » Okay. And just Yeah. >> I'm not sure [clears throat] the history 223 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:19,840 of that and how they managed to acquire that because I think it's part of the 224 00:18:17,360 --> 00:18:25,240 highway right whereas ours is piece of land that we own adjacent to the highway 225 00:18:21,679 --> 00:18:25,240 corridor. Yeah, 226 00:18:27,919 --> 00:18:35,360 » know the uh you know there's one billboard first of all point about the 227 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:40,000 report know from our from our perspective that the actual structures 228 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:43,760 on which the billboards rest we have to assume are owned by the people that put 229 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:47,679 the signs up in the first place. there's nothing [clears throat] 230 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:52,559 anything to the contrary and that's why you'll see some of the advertising would 231 00:18:49,919 --> 00:18:56,640 not have anything in behind their sign even though the the zoning file that 232 00:18:54,720 --> 00:19:01,360 requires that they treat the rear of the sign if they choose not to doubleside 233 00:18:58,720 --> 00:19:05,600 the sign. There is the one billboard sign that has both the chamber on it 234 00:19:03,360 --> 00:19:10,240 which is obviously becoming defunct and then there is uh the advertising the 235 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:14,240 floor longterm care and fundraising for that on the reverse. So obviously the 236 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:21,360 chamber sign will become available for advertising and I've already got 237 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:24,880 interested parties to advertise on it. I think it's safe to say that we own 238 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:28,559 that one >> or at least by default. 239 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:32,720 » Yeah. [clears throat] You know, we would do as part of any 240 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:37,280 future planning in terms of managing that thing, we would send out a letter 241 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:42,480 to all the tenants and, you know, describe that they could stay and have 242 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:47,440 the option to sign, you know, or are required to sign an agreement and give 243 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:51,360 them options for years, the cost, you know, and all the rest. that you know 244 00:19:48,799 --> 00:19:57,280 council lay a pricing scheme for it to see the prices to increase over time. 245 00:19:55,440 --> 00:20:02,960 suic that are there right now. Are they are 246 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:07,679 they do they are the annual things like this expire year? 247 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:13,120 » Right now the annual fee is $250 a year. It's only cheap advertising. 248 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:17,280 And we can I guess we can wrap up you know before before the start of next 249 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:23,919 year and you know maybe existing signs 250 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:29,039 uh just just kind of lease the space or whatever but but I think in terms of new 251 00:20:26,799 --> 00:20:33,919 structures it would be considered after any new request that we require them. I 252 00:20:32,559 --> 00:20:37,600 think the approach would be moving forward and just obviously something you 253 00:20:35,919 --> 00:20:41,280 know to be discussed with council is that part of any agreements to sign and 254 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:44,240 moving forward is that we would take over the ownership of the structure so 255 00:20:42,799 --> 00:20:47,280 we control what's going on there and obviously if somebody wants to pull out 256 00:20:45,919 --> 00:20:52,080 we don't expect them to remove the structures obviously got some value 257 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:56,080 maybe you know in doing that we give them a discount I don't know what that 258 00:20:53,520 --> 00:21:00,080 looks like but um doesn't make any sense to get rid of them and I'd like to see 259 00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:04,240 advertising on both sides of the home now I I suspect that what advertisers 260 00:21:02,799 --> 00:21:09,200 are doing is, you know, obviously they're paying the chamber now us their 261 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:12,400 annual fee and then they're suddenly seeing the back of the sign in some 262 00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:16,000 cases. You know, like you'll see two businesses being advertised and they're 263 00:21:13,919 --> 00:21:18,960 probably making more money on the on the reverse side than they are in terms of 264 00:21:17,679 --> 00:21:23,760 what they're paying the chamber as a whole. And I should just say that, you 265 00:21:21,360 --> 00:21:27,440 know, in reaching out to the current tenants uh either by email or letter 266 00:21:26,240 --> 00:21:32,799 depending on how I was able to get a hold of them, we did indicate that we we 267 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:40,080 are taking it over again. is our land and uh we will be looking at potential 268 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:43,280 rent increases as well as um what else was there? Just let them know that it 269 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:47,799 may be the requirement for rental agreements moving forward in the future. 270 00:21:49,120 --> 00:21:56,480 It would be nice in that area too to landscape it a bit and have 271 00:21:54,559 --> 00:22:00,960 a little water. That's another issue because the chamber 272 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:04,720 is part of the agreement that the town has with the chamber where obviously the 273 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:09,600 whole idea behind allowing them to manage it was to garner uh income for 274 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:15,039 not for-p profofit organization was that they maintain the grounds of all the 275 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:18,320 grounds the swamp and you know it's been rough for us to try to get them to do 276 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:22,320 that on occasion you know keep it up to a certain level obviously you know if 277 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:26,799 we're going to do it that's probably would you know fall on our community 278 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:30,240 services department So we'd have to talk to Conor about what's that going to take 279 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:37,679 in terms of manpower and time and estimated cost and all the rest of it 280 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:41,760 » factor that in with the uh with species >> correct 281 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:46,400 » I know coverage done some research cover type but you know piece of look at what 282 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:56,400 the advertising fees are built signs and other areas I think are charging $200 283 00:22:50,799 --> 00:23:01,679 a side um we're getting now $250 $50 because tax gates want to sign and uh 284 00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:05,520 some of the price you're getting up to $1,000. 285 00:23:03,120 --> 00:23:08,400 » Um probably start around with the household. 286 00:23:07,120 --> 00:23:13,520 » I'm underestimating. >> Sorry. Is that um yeah, you're looking 287 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:18,640 you're looking close to usually around 3 to 350 per month is uh 288 00:23:17,360 --> 00:23:24,320 more than the average of what they started at Sasser 289 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:28,280 traffic areas but still that's something we can look at in more detail. 290 00:23:29,039 --> 00:23:37,039 Well, I think I think things plan to offer you something that look at what 291 00:23:35,679 --> 00:23:42,559 the costs are and what they need in terms of opportunities here. 292 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:48,240 » That uh we have some thought to is uh advertising for not for profits. Right 293 00:23:44,799 --> 00:23:55,520 now we have MAD and SAD combined advertising uh people against drug 294 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:59,600 driving and u I know that the uh town waved the development permanent fee when 295 00:23:57,360 --> 00:24:06,000 they first put that sign up and then the chamber subsequently gave them free rent 296 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:09,200 and you know I think you know we either reach out to say that we're going to 297 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:12,240 allow this continue for a certain period of time and then [clears throat] maybe 298 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:16,240 at some point in time you know advertising for an off property to say 299 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:19,360 pay the go rate or they don't advertise because otherwise we're just going to 300 00:24:17,360 --> 00:24:24,640 get inundated with you know requests for free advertising on on the you know on 301 00:24:21,360 --> 00:24:29,120 the billboard corridor and you know the idea is to garner income to pay for not 302 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:32,960 only the upkeep of those lands but also help you know town offers I think that 303 00:24:31,679 --> 00:24:36,720 that's the way to go and then it makes it more simple if we kind of you know 304 00:24:35,279 --> 00:24:40,159 take that out of the equation where we have to deal with these requests for 305 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:44,080 free advertising >> make it level across the board 306 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:48,159 » exactly you want advertising that going rate is availability. 307 00:24:45,679 --> 00:24:54,000 » Yeah, I I looked in at at one point I looked into getting what a sign out 308 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:58,240 there produced and the structure alone I was given an 309 00:24:56,320 --> 00:25:02,159 estimate of $1,500. >> Yeah. 310 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:06,159 » And the sign another $1,500. >> Yeah. Sometimes in some cases the signs 311 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:08,000 are upward. >> Yeah. 312 00:25:06,559 --> 00:25:12,320 » And then you got to hire somebody to take you know put it up right with a 313 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:17,320 lift or something. But the cost of lumber no just that cost will be 314 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:26,240 » I think we should really not not close out all nonprofits or some 315 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:30,480 that are really like mad and sad that are really 316 00:25:27,919 --> 00:25:34,559 benefit all individuals we should probably 317 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:39,840 look at them with a different light I think and 318 00:25:37,279 --> 00:25:39,840 hope it's 319 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:48,720 the Boy Scouts of Tandem and that's different than Mad Group or 320 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:53,600 » Yeah. Maybe if it's specific like if if we write a policy that's very specific 321 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:59,919 um to do with like harm reduction when driving or you know whatever it is very 322 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:02,960 specific. Sure. But I do understand it would be problematic. But that having 323 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:06,400 been said if you wanted to limit the percentage of signs in the corridor to 324 00:26:04,799 --> 00:26:10,000 not for profit purposes that would be the way to go. Yeah. 325 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:12,880 » And now you lost some opportunity and it would be rather at you know rather than 326 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,919 free it would be at a significantly reduced rate. 327 00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:18,960 » And that's up to you folks obviously all you're just putting this out so you can 328 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:21,200 give it some thought and we can go back and bring something forward that we can 329 00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:27,039 implement. >> I like that idea. [clears throat] 330 00:26:25,039 --> 00:26:31,440 » Or maybe there's one double-sided sign that the town has and it rotates 331 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:36,559 annually or something. >> Well, you could also do again some other 332 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:41,039 ideas. We we obviously have a community grant policy and if they want 333 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:45,600 » the inind value of assign then that's part of the ask just like facilities and 334 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:48,559 anything else that you have. >> So there's a few different ways we could 335 00:26:47,039 --> 00:26:53,279 do it. We just wanted to get a sense if there's anything you felt strongly about 336 00:26:50,799 --> 00:26:57,600 so that if we do develop a brief policy or a fee schedule that we capture your 337 00:26:56,000 --> 00:27:02,640 thoughts. >> I think it's reasonable the direction. 338 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:08,240 Does the council want to wait to until we have a you know a set policy or guide 339 00:27:05,279 --> 00:27:11,279 guidance in place before staff rent out existing space? 340 00:27:10,559 --> 00:27:20,840 » Yeah. >> Yeah. I rented a science to June 341 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:20,840 one month. I paid $3,600 for one month. 342 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:32,240 » I think it's good to have it and I actually I like the idea of the town 343 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:37,440 maintaining the area. Um, it definitely draws your metric. Like it you see it 344 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:43,919 when you drive in and having as many businesses that 345 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:47,760 you know can be on there. It shows the community that's thriving and continuing 346 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:50,880 to grow. So I think it's >> I didn't even know we had a tire place 347 00:27:49,120 --> 00:27:53,599 to build a new entire sign with that. Yeah, [laughter] 348 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:59,360 » about that is, you know, this is where there's kind of, you know, this this 349 00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:03,679 disconnect is I got the DP application in from from New of course we're only 350 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:08,640 approving when we approve the dollar, we're approving the sign, right? Okay. 351 00:28:05,679 --> 00:28:11,919 » And uh but it was a whole new structure. At least this way once we take it back 352 00:28:10,159 --> 00:28:15,120 over, we'll be able to make sure all this stuff is done properly and you know 353 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:18,799 they're supposed to be properly space. I think that one is but there but there's 354 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:23,200 additional room along the corridor like we have block 14 which you see fairly 355 00:28:21,279 --> 00:28:26,240 well occupied the signage as it stands now but I think there's a bit more room 356 00:28:24,559 --> 00:28:31,440 for a couple more signs in there plus we have block 13 in the cart 357 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:35,039 » so we wanted to extend the billboard area corridor we could you know we could 358 00:28:34,159 --> 00:28:39,840 do that >> from an economic development perspective 359 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:47,200 it's this is a smart move to to start going on this and maybe offer half signs 360 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:51,120 or you smaller signs for smaller businesses in town to be able to promote 361 00:28:48,799 --> 00:28:55,919 some of those things, direction, that kind of stuff. 362 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:59,279 » It's the welcome into our town DC 363 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:02,640 used to drive by and they had a big billboard sign there talking about, you 364 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:07,615 know, economic development and said, "Call the mayor's 365 00:29:05,595 --> 00:29:07,615 [laughter] 366 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:13,200 number right on it." >> [laughter] 367 00:29:11,679 --> 00:29:18,159 » I've never seen anybody go after economic development to each other 368 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:24,000 on the island. >> I think because of the you know the 369 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:29,039 nature of how wet it is in there I think wouldn't be a bad idea to to roll out 370 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:34,880 our geotech sign is so that and then put some some 371 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:37,840 little bit of top soil over it and you would notice it there but at least you'd 372 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:40,080 have a path to get to where the signs are. 373 00:29:38,559 --> 00:29:45,600 » Yeah. I wish I wish we could start it all over scratch, but obviously we're 374 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:48,880 unable to do that, but we can moving forward we can make those kinds of 375 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:51,600 improvements. We want to make sure it pays for itself 376 00:29:50,159 --> 00:29:53,760 at the very least and hopefully a bit more. 377 00:29:52,159 --> 00:29:58,559 » Yeah. >> And we'd probably want to have maybe a t 378 00:29:56,399 --> 00:30:01,840 like a renewal period would be during a time where you can actually access 379 00:30:00,559 --> 00:30:05,919 space, >> not in spring or 380 00:30:05,855 --> 00:30:08,880 [clears throat] >> Yeah. Right now it's based on the 381 00:30:07,039 --> 00:30:12,720 calendar year and usually they send out the invoices. Well, chamber used to send 382 00:30:11,039 --> 00:30:15,679 out the invoices in December. >> Yeah. 383 00:30:13,279 --> 00:30:20,640 » And of course I learned that the chamber did not send out the invoices for 2020. 384 00:30:17,919 --> 00:30:25,279 So we just got them out. So while did you was there anything else 385 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:28,080 that we maybe needed some more input on there that 386 00:30:26,399 --> 00:30:32,240 » I haven't I haven't heard anything as you know I think there was much 387 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:36,960 broadening in there that is needed in terms of again when maybe down the road 388 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:41,600 we develop a policy and then the uptake is strong or weak and you want to tweak 389 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:45,039 the policy later that's all possible. uh we just need to get something reasonable 390 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:50,000 in place that council's agreeable with so that uh we can get going on 2027 and 391 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:54,720 if there is some maintenance things to plan for future capital or operating 392 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:59,360 budgets we can do that. Yeah. And durationwise, I I don't know. 393 00:30:57,679 --> 00:31:05,520 Personally, I think it would be fine to offer one, three, five year leases. And 394 00:31:03,679 --> 00:31:09,679 » yeah, I think I think the mess would be that if you're going to offer a 395 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:13,440 multi-year like 135, then you would offer slight discounts on longer terms, 396 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,520 » right? To give them inspiration to do so. 397 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:19,440 » I mean, obviously, if their business was to was to go by the wayside in the 398 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:22,320 interm and uh but we would still build it annually. That's how that's what we 399 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:27,720 do with all our shoreline decent and what have you. 400 00:31:23,279 --> 00:31:27,720 » So, It would be really no problem. 401 00:31:28,559 --> 00:31:32,200 So >> yeah. 402 00:31:34,559 --> 00:31:37,720 » Thank you. 403 00:31:39,039 --> 00:31:49,279 » Have a motion to rise and resource. >> Make that motion. 404 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:53,840 » I'll second favor. 405 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:57,240 Motion is carried. We move into 406 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:05,600 » Yeah, this is under the category of administrative cleanup 407 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:10,720 legislation. They're sticky that this not be done in policy. So, when we were 408 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:15,440 updating some of this stuff, we're just inverting it into a new updated film 409 00:32:13,039 --> 00:32:21,600 that will replace all the previous documents um with some minor minor 410 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:26,082 improvements. Another looks like more professionally done in 2020. [laughter] 411 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:31,279 Slowly been improving. Yeah, >> these are living documents. That's what 412 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:39,080 happens. >> Yeah, exactly. We we implement, we 413 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:39,080 learn, we change. Yeah, tweak. 414 00:32:48,159 --> 00:32:57,279 » Okay. So, There's no questions and chairman accepted. 415 00:32:52,880 --> 00:33:04,559 We'll have a first reading six and conduct B number 71426 416 00:33:01,519 --> 00:33:09,967 » question. Has everybody read it? >> Council shar. 417 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,967 » Yes. [laughter] 418 00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:19,960 » I will move. Second >> second 419 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,960 deal in favor 420 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:28,399 motion for second reading. >> I'll make the motion for second reading 421 00:33:25,039 --> 00:33:32,960 the bylaw 71426 I'll second that second motion. All in 422 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:38,880 favor? Carries. We have a motion to have all 423 00:33:35,919 --> 00:33:45,519 three reading. Question that we have three meetings. 424 00:33:43,279 --> 00:33:48,640 Second favor. 425 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:53,279 It's unanimous. Who will have the third reading? 426 00:33:51,519 --> 00:33:59,799 Also second 427 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:59,799 by all in favor. 428 00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:07,880 Okay, we'll move to business and we have the financial reports 429 00:34:08,720 --> 00:34:11,720 control 430 00:34:12,079 --> 00:34:19,159 approval checklisting for by for any questions. 431 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:33,320 I will move to approve the uh four following financial reports. 432 00:34:33,359 --> 00:34:43,960 » I'll second that on paper carried 433 00:34:38,879 --> 00:34:43,960 to building services report 434 00:34:44,879 --> 00:34:49,480 information building concerns. 435 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,520 It's all that 436 00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:16,599 motion to receive. 437 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:25,160 Are you move or you >> I'll second 438 00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:38,079 to operations 439 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:41,079 maintenance the temporary draft agreement. 440 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:52,720 Yeah. So, uh just a bit of a background. Um we had talked to council off and on 441 00:35:49,839 --> 00:35:57,760 informally and formally different meetings uh planning sessions 442 00:35:55,200 --> 00:36:01,680 about some of the challenges with the certification requirements and staffing 443 00:35:59,599 --> 00:36:06,079 requirements to maintain our systems under utilities. 444 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:09,280 Of course with the new wastewater treatment plant those may even increase. 445 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:15,599 We're not 100% sure yet because they haven't finalized design. Um and our 446 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:20,200 most senior operator uh lead hand over there who is does an excellent job 447 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:28,960 getting closer to retirement. We know that at some point we will lose that 448 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:33,040 person and the other employees that we do have or been with us for less than a 449 00:36:31,359 --> 00:36:37,760 year and that's kind of been an ongoing challenge and can't can't get people 450 00:36:35,359 --> 00:36:41,839 that are trained and we can't keep them long enough to train them. So one of the 451 00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:46,640 things we wanted to explore just in terms of future planning was uh uh 452 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:53,839 whether or not there was any interest from the in contracting out this portion 453 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:58,800 of our operation. Um much like uh the waste the water treatment plant is 454 00:36:55,920 --> 00:37:03,280 administered by SAS water and we did issue an RFP and we received two 455 00:37:00,720 --> 00:37:07,920 interested bids. One was uh the preferred bid was with SAS water. 456 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:12,800 Uh after that we've had some meetings and 457 00:37:10,240 --> 00:37:17,440 uh discussed uh some operational and contract issues 458 00:37:15,119 --> 00:37:22,400 and explored this further and we got it to a point where we as administration 459 00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:29,200 would be recommending entering into a long-term uh agreement with SAS water. 460 00:37:26,240 --> 00:37:36,880 The terms of that agreement are there. Um they are likely to be on par or a 461 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:42,160 little less than our staffing costs right now. So this wouldn't be a 462 00:37:39,359 --> 00:37:46,000 budgetary concern unless we had a ridiculous number of 463 00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:50,160 callouts and we would also have overtime issues. 464 00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:53,920 So they kind of go hand in hand that way. Uh one of the bigger concerns was 465 00:37:52,240 --> 00:37:58,320 of course is taking care of our staff and in those discussions uh they've 466 00:37:55,839 --> 00:38:02,560 indicated they're more than interested in all of our staff. 467 00:38:00,720 --> 00:38:06,240 Our most senior operator has been with us a long time. We've given the option 468 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:11,520 of moving forward with SAS water or staying 469 00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:18,079 on in an equal kind of capacity with the town. So any other employees would apply 470 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:24,079 with SAS water as well. So that is a process we have to go through after uh 471 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:30,079 if if council deems it they wish to proceed with this we will work with HR 472 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:35,119 and the employees in question and uh get them through that process. So that's 473 00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:40,800 kind of a high level overview. Uh it is a 10-year agreement. We've set it up so 474 00:38:38,079 --> 00:38:46,880 that there is a fixed 2 and a half% annual increase which is been on average 475 00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:53,200 or a little less than our CPI with the employee costs. Um the only there is 476 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:58,079 some provisions in there that if certification requirements change from 477 00:38:55,200 --> 00:39:02,480 the legislated bodies or uh something with our system requires an upgrade that 478 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:08,880 we would then have to renegotiate uh the rate uh which only seems fair. Uh but we 479 00:39:05,599 --> 00:39:11,760 tried to uh get as much security in this agreement if we do go forward because 480 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:16,000 there are some things that we would change. We would repurpose some vehicles 481 00:39:14,240 --> 00:39:20,480 and try and we would take some money elsewhere. We'd also get them set up 482 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:24,560 with some office space and things like that to support them. 483 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:30,960 So I'm happy to take any questions from council. The savings 484 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:36,800 they are from repurposing vehicle not or the savings are from 485 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:42,079 the town's yearly cost to operate. >> Well, they'll be both or the vehicle 486 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:47,599 ones would be obviously one time nature, but the operating cost what we did is we 487 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:52,320 looked at the costs that we would be build under this uh service agreement 488 00:39:50,079 --> 00:39:58,000 and we only took those operating costs that it would replace. So things like uh 489 00:39:55,520 --> 00:40:02,800 protective equipment for staffing, actual salaries, wages and benefits um 490 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:06,160 and things like that because we would still get flow through billing for 491 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:10,880 things like utilities and chemicals and things like that. 492 00:40:07,359 --> 00:40:15,119 » So if you compared our staffing cost to the proposal and some of the staffing 493 00:40:13,119 --> 00:40:21,520 related items, we're looking at 494 00:40:18,720 --> 00:40:28,079 that's where the savings comes from. The only proviso there is we've 495 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:32,880 we've allowed for $40,000 in callouts. We don't know what that will be. Right 496 00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:36,720 now we budget about 33,000 for callouts. But yes, if you calculate overtime and 497 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:40,240 staffing costs and benefits and all those things and you compare them to 498 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:47,920 this contract, that's where we're projecting to be a little less. 499 00:40:43,839 --> 00:40:53,520 So, are we looking at [snorts] our 10ear costs and this 10 year costs 500 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:58,240 with some projected savings for each year going forward? Hard to predict as 501 00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:03,839 council ultimately approves the the rates or increases for employed 502 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:09,359 employees. Um, at the end of the day right now, our current policy is that we 503 00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:14,000 we increase our our wage and salary grids by CPI. So the consumer price 504 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:20,000 index for Saskatchewan year-over-year September to September and we can budget 505 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:24,880 for it for the next year and we also have 506 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:31,520 a performance merit portion that is one up to 1.8%. That's what the steps in the 507 00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:37,200 grid are if they're not maxed out. So the maximum CPI they can get in a year 508 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:42,319 is 3.2% 2% which means if an employee hasn't maxed out on their merit they 509 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:46,560 could get upwards of 5% depending on what inflation is doing but they could 510 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:50,640 also get as low as zero depending on what inflation's doing. So hard to say 511 00:41:49,599 --> 00:41:56,720 whether this is going to save year-over-year but for if you look at 512 00:41:52,640 --> 00:42:01,280 the last five years it's been our wages and benefits have probably 513 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:06,880 gone up on an an average year of three and a halfish percent. So we've allowed 514 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:11,680 for two and a half% as part of and that's hopefully covers 515 00:42:09,599 --> 00:42:15,920 any increases they have with their union contract because obviously these will be 516 00:42:13,119 --> 00:42:20,880 union employees for the most part but gets rid of the fact that we don't have 517 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:26,960 to train or look for operators. >> Yeah. No advertising cost, no training, 518 00:42:23,599 --> 00:42:32,240 on boarding. Um basically anything that would be a staff 519 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:36,720 related cost like retention bonuses or things like that, we would we would save 520 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:41,200 those. And then we would look at the capital budget and the next two trucks 521 00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:45,760 that we have to replace, we'd be able to repurpose the utility trucks and not 522 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:50,960 have to spend those capital dollars as soon. So that would also be a benefit. 523 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:54,079 Did they I know you were going to ask them about 524 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:59,680 so they hire somebody and they bring them in from I 525 00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:04,800 do they perceive that those people are pick up 526 00:43:01,599 --> 00:43:10,480 residence here while they're I think their intent is to have uh their 527 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:14,800 core staff located here. The benefit, one of the benefits that going with a 528 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:20,000 contract has and I think is where we see the potential savings is we have to 529 00:43:17,599 --> 00:43:25,599 staff to a level to have coverage for vacations and leave periods whereas they 530 00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:31,599 have a pool of people they can cycle in and they don't have to necessarily have 531 00:43:27,839 --> 00:43:34,560 the full cost of another body. So, um, yes, there would be some people that 532 00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:39,040 they would probably cycle in depending on those kind of leave needs, but, uh, 533 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:43,280 we would expect that >> if they if they hire the three employees 534 00:43:41,119 --> 00:43:46,560 we have, all they would just continue on and that if they're going to provide 535 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:50,480 that service and they need to be on call, they need to be relatively local. 536 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:55,839 There's usually a response time requirement and things like that. And 537 00:43:52,240 --> 00:44:00,000 those costs would um would cost us for them to come in on 538 00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:02,400 like on a rotational basis. This is like they're being you're living right here. 539 00:44:02,079 --> 00:44:08,319 So, >> yeah, we get So, the contracted service 540 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:14,160 is the same 7 day a week. Uh there'd be someone uh available. Um it's really 541 00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:19,280 outside of their shift where that call out possibly be. So, if something 542 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:23,920 happens at midnight, just like now, we would get called out. In this case, they 543 00:44:22,240 --> 00:44:28,160 would get called out >> and we may need to support them 544 00:44:25,119 --> 00:44:32,800 depending on what the issue is. Are they thinking about upgrading remote 545 00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:35,520 monitoring where are they there any discussion around that? 546 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:39,599 » Well, one of the elements of this agreement is that they included in the 547 00:44:38,079 --> 00:44:44,160 cost is that they would provide operational improvement recommendations. 548 00:44:42,319 --> 00:44:47,680 Uh so things that we absolutely should be doing, but then here's some things 549 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:51,280 that would have a benefit and here's what the benefits would be. And then we 550 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:55,119 could present those with capital budgeting and if they want to put in 551 00:44:52,880 --> 00:45:01,079 remote monitoring or or do some different things. Um those would be 552 00:44:57,359 --> 00:45:01,079 things that we can consider. 553 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:07,400 » I certainly on board with 554 00:45:09,920 --> 00:45:15,920 » and we have had communication with staff like just so council is aware we've been 555 00:45:13,839 --> 00:45:22,319 ongoing keeping them apprised of the process what the intent was. uh the town 556 00:45:19,359 --> 00:45:28,880 was committed to protecting their their employment and working with SAS water 557 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:32,480 and we will continue to do so. What's is there to now? Was there a target timing 558 00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:37,040 set for >> well this the term was to start November 559 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:43,040 1st is projected in here but the also if there was another agreeable date that 560 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:48,000 made sense for both parties or employees to come come aboard like let's say for 561 00:45:45,760 --> 00:45:51,839 some reason they need to hire an extra body and they wanted to wait till 562 00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:54,800 » so we have to we have to agree to this and then like in November 563 00:45:53,200 --> 00:46:00,079 » then they need to start yeah they need to start getting ready to plan or or 564 00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:05,040 taking over the operation. and staffing up and things like that. 565 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:10,960 We've told them that the exact date isn't super critical to us. Right now, 566 00:46:08,240 --> 00:46:17,359 we're running down a body, so sooner is better. Um, but also that my I conveyed 567 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:20,880 is I I wouldn't want it to be any later than January. It's just easier for 568 00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:27,599 budgeting purposes if we're just seamlessly moving to a new contract. 569 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:32,560 Well, if nobody else anything I proceed with the option I 570 00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:36,079 move the option uh the authorized execution and close utility 571 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:42,160 certification operator maintenance agreement with SAS water corporation 572 00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:47,520 return November 1st 26 to December 31st 2036 573 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:54,960 » I'll second pasty second by sh 574 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:54,960 discussion question those in favor 575 00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:01,680 tools. So that's good. I think we're all on board. I think everybody's 576 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:05,839 comfortable. >> It's a lot of work been put into this. 577 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:09,839 » Yeah. And we'll continue like we'll have to give some updates to council in terms 578 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:14,720 of the process for transition and the also the community at large and what 579 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:19,960 what that means to them if anything and hopefully it is as seamless to the 580 00:47:16,319 --> 00:47:19,960 public as possible. 581 00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:36,280 Okay, we'll move to 8.4 development per application for 516 run 582 00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:39,400 decisions 583 00:47:46,720 --> 00:47:52,160 a quick recap. It's your so administration is has received a 584 00:47:50,800 --> 00:47:55,839 development permit application with respect to consideration of a 585 00:47:53,520 --> 00:48:00,480 discretionary use to allow a cannabis retail outlet to be established on the 586 00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:04,400 two properties of 516 Range Avenue. Property owner selling its two adjacent 587 00:48:02,240 --> 00:48:08,400 lots and has entered into a conditional sales agreement with the applicant who 588 00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:12,960 proposes to utilize the two properties to accommodate the canvas retail outlet 589 00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:17,520 in existing building on lot one with accessory off parking on lot two. These 590 00:48:15,839 --> 00:48:21,599 two lots would be consolidated as part of the process should the development 591 00:48:19,119 --> 00:48:26,000 permit ultimately be approved. Administration is recommending that 592 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:30,000 council directs it to initiate a public consultation consultation process before 593 00:48:28,240 --> 00:48:33,559 the matter is brought back to council for further consideration. 594 00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:43,359 I'd make that motion that council direct administration to initiate the public 595 00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:47,520 consultation process to consider issuance of a development permit to 596 00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:52,720 establish a destructionary use of cannabis retail on the subject 597 00:48:49,599 --> 00:49:03,640 properties described as lots one and two block 7 plan Sierra 1750 extension zero 598 00:48:58,720 --> 00:49:03,640 commonly known as 516 Lange Avenue. 599 00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:11,280 Second. Second it may second the motion. >> Any discussion around that before I pull 600 00:49:10,319 --> 00:49:14,319 the question? >> This was strictly for the public 601 00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:18,160 consultation. Correct. >> Yes. 602 00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:23,440 » What's is necessary when that's up? >> We'll put a notice in the newspaper as 603 00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:26,640 well as uh soon as this is completed I'll be going out with the applicants 604 00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:30,240 there to give them a sign to post on the property and I'll be doing a letter 605 00:49:28,720 --> 00:49:33,599 notification to all property owners within 75 meters surrounding the two 606 00:49:32,079 --> 00:49:40,119 properties. We'll also be posting the notice on our 607 00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:40,119 notification board and on our website. 608 00:49:40,319 --> 00:49:45,000 Okay, that's all the question in favor. 609 00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:06,599 That's a pretty hefty lease. 610 00:50:07,599 --> 00:50:15,760 » So, uh, back in February, administration brought uh, forward the intent to enter 611 00:50:12,559 --> 00:50:21,040 into lease agreements with us groups of the Melhagen Juniplex who have either 612 00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:27,680 had existing space or had an appetite to occupy new space or any space. Uh and so 613 00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:33,119 we have uh we've had discussions with my heart and administration's bringing one 614 00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:37,839 lease for this evening with the expectation for the other ones to follow 615 00:50:35,599 --> 00:50:43,839 subsequent. So I I can answer any questions you have 616 00:50:39,599 --> 00:50:49,119 about the lease or um or the report. One thing that I will note though is that uh 617 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:54,400 back in February when we brought forward uh the spaces that groups were looking 618 00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:59,200 to occupy um the ticket booth at the front of the building right when you 619 00:50:56,079 --> 00:51:02,880 walk in uh what what wasn't listed but in discussions with minor hockey uh 620 00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:07,040 there is interest to run some skate shing out of the front table booth which 621 00:51:05,359 --> 00:51:12,000 is typical that you would simplify from that location in ranks um administration 622 00:51:10,319 --> 00:51:16,960 doesn't have concerns about them doing some this little defund to the service. 623 00:51:15,359 --> 00:51:21,920 » There's an obvious spot we missed when we were looking for a place to put it. 624 00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:28,000 It's space that's no longer 625 00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:31,280 very accessible to everybody coming in. So, that's good. 626 00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:37,599 » Yeah. And we do get questions about it. The JRCC does obviously that's not 627 00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:44,000 something that we currently have in the past. Um but over the years it uh 628 00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:49,280 went away and his appetite to bring it back through 629 00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:52,520 old skate sharpener still in the back room there. 630 00:51:52,800 --> 00:52:01,359 » It was old. I think they'd be looking at something 631 00:51:57,359 --> 00:52:05,119 smaller and uh I know some discussions around what the options are out there 632 00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:08,920 and compact these days. 633 00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:21,839 Okay, we have no more discussion. We'll make a motion to 634 00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:28,880 adoption A. So make that motion that we proceed with option A with auction 635 00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:34,079 move by council second. All in favor 636 00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:39,920 motion car. That's it for our hearing on business. 637 00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:45,640 We will have a motion to vendor. I'll make a motion or a second 638 00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:45,640 case.