How are you doing.
I saw you on the agenda.
Makes you look expelled.
They must be working you too hard.
Something like that.
I saw you, you were two months early.
So good to see you.
Thank you.
That I love you.
How are you.
Good, good.
I'm glad you're here.
Thank you.
During 2000.
And six.
I think it's o'clock.
O'clock good evening.
Mics thanks, Robert.
Thank you.
Good evening.
This is the regular commission meeting
of the town of Lady lake, and it is August 17, 2026
and is now called to order.
Roll call please.
Commissioner sage here, Commissioner Michele here.
Commissioner Regan here.
Commissioner Roberts here.
Mayor editor.
Freeman, here.
Thank you.
We'll now have an invocation from pastor Titus Odom
of the lady lake church of God.
Followed by the Pledge of Allegiance.
Let's bow our heads together tonight.
Heavenly Father, we thank you for this opportunity, Lord,
that we have together as leaders, God as business owners,
God as members of this community.
God, we are grateful for the men and the women
who work every day to make this community what it is.
God a better place for us to live and to do business.
Lord, I pray that you will help each and every one of us
tonight.
God as we operate.
Lord, in the spirit of excellence,
as we strive, Lord, to make this town
a place that you would be pleased
with as our Heavenly Father.
Lord, I pray blessings on us tonight.
God, as we gather to conduct business for this town
that we love so dearly.
God in Romans 13 and 1 God, we know that everyone must
submit to governing authorities, for all authority
comes from God.
And those Lord in positions of authority
have been placed here by God and Lord.
I'm a firm believer that you are a sovereign God,
that each and everyone of us, Lord, that have been positioned
here, God that have been placed here, God, we have been placed
here by you and your power.
God, I pray that you will let your Holy Spirit
dwell on us tonight.
God, as we conduct business for your glory and we all
say amen and amen.
In the name of Jesus, amen.
Amen I pledge allegiance to the flag
of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which
it stands.
One nation under God, indivisible,
with liberty and justice for all.
Thank you.
We now have a presentation.
Good evening, everyone.
It's my.
Privilege take a moment to recognize and thank public works
director, CTP for his initiative and in applying
for an appropriation from the state of Florida and 26th
district representative named Cobb for her outstanding efforts
on behalf of our community.
Representative Cobb worked diligently
to secure a state of Florida appropriation
to support the expansion of our wastewater utility.
This investment is about much more than infrastructure.
It's about preparing our community
for responsible growth, protecting our environment,
and improving the quality of life for our residents.
We are grateful for representative Cobb's
leadership, dedication, and commitment to helping
our community move forward.
Her efforts will make a real difference
and we sincerely appreciate your partnership and support.
Representative Cobb, on behalf of our community,
thank you for standing with us and helping us bring
an important project possible.
Please join with me in giving representative
Cobb, round of applause.
All right.
So we'll do the picture first.
All right.
It's already spent.
You'd be right.
Is it, love.
I don't know.
Do you guys want to.
Yeah you guys want to stand up.
Come behind us.
I'm fine.
All right.
Push on.
All right.
It's the people's money coming back to the people.
That's right.
Come over here.
Come on.
Rose between two thorns.
Come on in.
One two.
Three two three.
Smile thank you.
Thank you.
OK, so I'd like to say a little something so that in case
you who don't know me, my name is Dan,
and I have the honor and pleasure of being your state
representative for district 26.
When lady lake, small town lady lake put the appropriations in.
It was a pleasure.
The stuff that we do that I like to do in Tallahassee
is not sexy.
I don't like to do a bunch of buildings and things
that are fun.
I like to do things that are needed.
Infrastructure is not sexy.
You can't see it.
You can see the road, but you can't see them.
The wastewater treatment.
I can tell you go one day without wastewater.
You'll know real quick how that need it.
And I'd like to applaud you for also being proactive.
Because we more times than not, emergency.
We're in dire straits.
We didn't save enough.
We didn't act quick enough.
The town of Lady lake has.
I want to thank you for viewing that.
And I understand it's already spent.
It's gone.
And I will tell you, just so you know.
And there's other I'm sure, other staff in here as well.
We start committee weeks in November.
And you'll start hearing from our office
it's time to get the appropriations in again.
And so we look at those worthwhile things.
I will tell you, many, many cities have lobbyists,
I think bigger cities, bigger budgets for towns.
Like maybe I am a lobbyist.
And so we've worked twice as hard, very diligent also
with Senator true.
Now I can't do this alone.
They couldn't be here tonight.
But, Senator, I have to have a Senate companion.
Senator true.
Now is all in.
Not one question asked.
And this is a huge priority for me.
And so I can't do this without him.
So don't forget.
Start getting your appropriations in.
And so this was your first time, correct Yes yes.
And so it went back and forth a couple times
because there are certain buzzwords
you need to use in Tallahassee.
And we know how to get things bought.
And it was real important.
So sometimes we go back and forth
and you'll get more experienced in the whole city
will come up, to my knowledge Mr. Lawrence, am I correct.
This is the very first time that you received state funds.
Very proud of that.
So please keep up the good work.
You're doing a great job.
And those appropriations look like if we don't feel that,
they're up to snuff.
Or we could go for something else.
Put in 2, 3, 4 things, and then we'll
let you know what we can buy.
You'll get more this year.
So I look forward to I don't know
if you're going to do a ribbon cutting
at the wastewater treatment.
I know if that's a fancy thing out here or not.
It's not real fancy.
At the wastewater treatment plant.
But if you decide to do that.
Beautiful if you decide to do that, just let our staff know.
And if I hear we'll all be here, if I'm asking,
somebody will be here.
All right.
So thank you again for indulging me and allowing me to speak.
And thank you again for allowing me to represent
you in Tallahassee.
And great job guys.
Thank you.
I want to say a special thank you to Senator Juneau.
I met with him last year.
Great guy.
And he had her full support.
And I appreciate you so much.
We appreciate you.
Thank you.
And do we.
We're on to consent items.
Does anybody have anything they want to pull.
No move for approval.
I have something I want to pull.
The The minutes from our last meeting were dated in July.
And they should have been dated in August.
I believe our meeting was, what, August three.
Sir, if I may, the minutes that were listed on the agenda
were dated for July, but they were
actually in the minutes that were in the packet were correct.
They were the August three minutes.
I know the minutes are correct.
It's just a wrong date.
Yeah so the clerk's office is going to correct that.
It was dated July and now we have a.
Oh all in favor do we need a second motion.
I'll make a second.
Did we hear it first.
Amanda Yeah.
Moved for approval.
OK thank you.
All in favor, please say Aye.
Aye Opposed.
Motion passes.
Now we have a discussion.
A discussion from Lake County Development partners, LLC.
Thank you, Mr. mayor.
Could we.
Could I get this.
Just go up like this.
There you go.
Thank you.
Mayor Freeman, members of the commission Mr. City attorney.
City manager.
My name is Kent Gwynne Douglas law firm.
Our office address is 110 North Magnolia Avenue, Ocala, Florida.
34471 I'm here tonight representing lake County
Development partners, which you have in the audience
out here along with our general contractor.
We've been working with kt and Thad and Becky
on this for some time.
And, we sent this in on Friday, which obviously you're closed,
but someone was kind enough to put
this on the agenda at 8:24 Friday
morning and amended the agenda.
So whoever did that, God bless them, because it wasn't
going to be on the agenda.
So thank you.
And I know you have this agreement I'll put up here.
You probably haven't had time to read it,
but I just wanted to go over it with you
and see if there's some interest in doing this.
So what I was trying to do was to create
kind of a win-win, not a win-win situation for the town.
And my client.
So what I had in mind was this.
And you just got $1 million, which
is fantastic for this project.
But the city of Lady lake wants the $544,201
and reservation fee.
Now for the ilf and townhomes that are in this agreement.
And if you look on page.
Three of 12.
Thank you ma'am.
Three of 12.
You see that number.
The 524 201.
So you want that for two reasons.
One, that you actually have it, then you have it in hand,
and you could invest it if you wanted to for some time
get some amount of interest on it.
This morning two year treasuries were at 4.2.
We're just going to use an interest rate of 5%
and do it that way.
So you could have the lost opportunity cost on 544,201
for a period of time.
So my client recognizes the fact that you
would want all those things.
And we're offering a letter of credit for the entire $764,926
to secure the payment and then also recover
your lost opportunity cost.
We'd be willing to pay you $27,000,
which represents that 5% on the $544,000 that you
wouldn't get had you taken that money and invested
it on an annual basis.
So that's what we're offering the $27,000
to be paid in 30 days after this agreement would be signed.
I know you haven't seen it and Derek hasn't had time to go over
it, but what I would do if there's some interest would be
to have it approved tonight, subject to legal review,
so it wouldn't have to come back on the seventh agenda
to be gone over again.
And let Derek and our staff, the attorneys
at our office work on it between now and then to get it
finalized.
So that's what my proposal would be.
And I know that CTE and Thad are going
to come up here and tell you that they don't want to do this.
But my goal I mean, I've sat where you sat.
I was a city councilman for 12 years and Mayor for 12 years,
and I always wanted to get things before the council
and commission.
I no vote as the mayor, but before council
that you could look at it, and make
a decision as far as yay or nay, just
the way you made the decision.
He owned the trees when we were up here earlier.
So that's the purpose of me being here tonight.
And that's the purpose of this giving you this agreement
this late in the day.
So we're prepared to answer any questions you might have.
The development company is here.
General contractor is here for the project,
but we're open for questions.
Thank you commissioner.
So for the record.
What project are we talking about here.
Lake Ella project down the road here.
Oh, OK.
That was the project with the trees.
How does this benefit.
How is it benefiting you.
The city.
How is it benefiting the city.
How is it benefiting us to give you a line of credit.
Well, because you're not well.
Well, you're going to get the interest on the money
just as you had it.
You get $27,000 to be 5% on $544,000.
You're going to have an irrevocable letter of credit
that's secured so that if things go south,
you've always got that letter of credit that you can exercise on.
So you're going to always get your money either way
whether you have the money in hand
or you don't have the money in hand,
you're going to get it through the letter
of credit that's secured by a national or state
chartered bank.
$544,000 is going to be in the bank.
You just don't want to give it to us.
Yeah I mean, working capital they're working on to clear land
and such, and things like that.
So they want didn't want to take it out of that to do this.
There's not going to be the capacity won't be needed
for about 2 and 1/2 years.
Anybody else.
And just one more thing, Mayor, if I may.
I was talking to and I think that documents
also in your packet that I gave you talking to the property
appraiser's office.
I here in Lake County, a gentleman named Clayton Carter.
Once this project is fully built out,
it would generate between 1.2 and $1.3 million dollars
annually on valorem taxes just for the city of Lady lake,
not counting Lake County School board and such.
So, respectfully, I have corresponded with you.
Yes, ma'am particular subject.
One of the requests I had was, is there a timeline,
and has that been provided to our staff of this project.
Well, we can Paul can come up here, but I think it has.
But it's about 2 and 1/2 years before the ilf and the townhomes
would be ready to go.
We would need this capacity.
They're going to break ground once we
get the site plan approved.
There's a traffic study being done.
We're working with FDOT about a traffic light, which is somewhat
part of this project, but they're
ready to get the site plan approved and probably a couple
of months and come back here.
And that's been communicated to city.
Yes, I believe there have been aware of it.
And is this a standard bill.
I'm looking towards you because this is, my first rodeo here.
Is this a standard that we offer a line of credit
to for this sort of thing.
No, this has never been done.
And another newbie question here.
Does this, so to speak, capture that usage CT where we can no
longer bring on someone that's ready to build
within 2 and 1/2 years.
Does that prevent that so to speak, to happen.
I'm sorry.
Sorry sorry.
Public works director.
Yes so.
Yes if this was approved, they would reserve
that capacity without payment.
It would be on a letter of credit
that would take it away from anybody else that
would come in and pay for that.
Up and said, I'm ready to go.
I've got a site plan.
It's approved.
We can break ground next week.
And we didn't have the capacity because of this letter
or this agreement.
We could not do that.
Yeah that's correct.
We are hamstrung for 2 and 1/2 years for this project
to begin on capacity for this.
That's correct.
Without payment.
Yes thank you.
Don't run away.
So in my several years here, we've not done any
of these projects in this way.
And my concern being when you start to do this, then who else
is going to come up next and pay what they need to pay for us.
And this upends the Apple cart, so to speak.
Am I correct in thinking that.
Yeah we have limited capacity for sale in the existing plant.
Now, as we're building another one,
but it's not going to be online for a few years.
And that's why we were looking for the time
frame for this big project to come
on board, to make sure they align
with the new plant opening.
So that.
So yeah, if we put this out, we cannot sell that twice.
So we've only got a limited amount of capacity left.
Sure and from a staff perspective,
and acknowledging that I was unable to get
into my laptop over the weekend because I
was locked out from security.
So I have not had appropriate time to review this.
What is your staff recommendation on this.
My current recommendation is denial.
Thank you.
Yes I say just one more thing to Commissioner clay.
Commissioner clay, they can go ahead and start doing this.
We're not holding the city up for 2 and 1/2 years.
We just don't need it for 2 and 1/2 years.
You can go ahead and build it and have it ready,
but we just don't need it for 2 and 1/2 years on the ilf.
But we wouldn't prevent the city from beginning
construction on it.
Are you aware that we have a plant coming online in 2030.
In 23.
Yes 23 2030.
OK yes.
Which is.
Yeah which would be about the same time 27 around that time.
Yeah so it would kind of really coincide.
OK Just pointing that out.
Go ahead I'm sorry.
Good afternoon, Nathan Coker Kaufman Lynn construction.
So just to be clear, we are prepared to start
construction very soon.
We can't obviously know that date until we understand
if there's capacity for us, so we can get site plan approval
and move forward.
Our hope is to start in October of this year.
Call it October 1 ish.
The project is approximately 26 months long, 27 months long.
So we'll be finishing around the end of the year of 2028.
So if we were to wait for the new water treatment plant,
we would not be able to commence this project
for another couple of years.
We want to commence the project now and finish in 2028.
But of course, we can't do that if we don't know
that we have capacity building.
What are you building first.
I'm sorry.
Townhomes or the nursing home or.
Oh the.
Yeah the independent living facility and townhomes.
Clubhouse yeah.
Both of those are happening.
Yes simultaneously.
October 1.
Yes, ma'am.
OK starting October 1 and all 400 ish units
will be done at the end of 26 months.
OK thank you.
Yeah thank you.
Thank you.
Is this a development that we've already approved.
Yes, sir.
And this is part of the hammock oak.
Coke no no, no.
OK oh, no no no.
Coke no, sir.
No this is down on the corner of Lake Ella and 441.
Why is this the first time that this sort of procedure
has come up in the past.
We've not had developers come in and ask for a reservation
of sewer capacity.
Have we.
No that's why we're here.
That's why they're here.
Asking them.
We don't.
They don't own it until they buy it.
So that's always been my mission.
Or that's what I was directed from our commission for 19 years
now.
And especially when we're running out of capacity
on the current plant.
Now they can do it in phases.
They could buy they could put it in the agreement
where they buy this for the ilf, this for the homes, this
for the other buildings over a set time,
but they don't count it until they pay for it.
So capacity is not guaranteed until time of payment.
So that's why we're here today.
And isn't it true in years past that we have approved
developments that never came to fruition,
and we might have even built a sewer system
to develop capacity for them in the development
didn't go through.
Oh, yeah.
We've got plenty of developments around that
never happened that never paid.
And we had a soft allotment in the plant for it,
but they never came to fruition.
So I think it would be prudent to wait until they actually
get a shovel in the ground before they
ask for sewage capacity.
Yeah I mean, they could we have the capacity right
now to sell them today, but that might not happen.
Knowing their time schedule, we're
OK if it's going to come on whenever
our new plant is going to come unlined, it should be OK.
That's why I wanted to know the time frame.
But the capacity is not reserved until time of payment.
That's why we're here.
OK thank you.
Thank you.
But just to answer your question,
Commissioner, that would have been the reason
to have a letter of credit or some vehicle like that to secure
the payment so that these people that didn't pay you
would go to that letter of credit and have the bank,
exercise and get paid.
So that was what that would be for.
But if there's capacity, I mean, we're
ready to do it, to pay it, and get this project going
if we have to.
But I just wanted to get this in front of you
and give you an opportunity to say yay or nay on this project,
but just at least wanted to present the idea to you.
Thank you, and I appreciate your thoughts,
but it seems to me that we're already
under a financial pressure now, and to delay or some
of the funds that would be coming in
to sell the capacity means that the people of Lady lake
are kind of supporting you for a little while,
since you want to do something in a way
that's not been done before.
And my concern is that once you open
that floodgate, then others.
And now suddenly we have upended our funding stream
and it becomes problematic.
Especially under the potential of what may or may not
happen in November, it becomes all the more prudent
that we keep our tried and true methods in line and move
at that pace.
And the phased amount of buying your capacity as you move
forward with your building seems like, from my perspective,
a great way for you guys to proceed.
If you're not ready to build the hotel
or you're not doing the memory care unit yet, or whatever,
I would suggest that I'm really not in favor
of the line of credit, just from my perspective,
and we are ready to build.
My client is ready to build, but we
can figure that out on our end and get you your money.
And then we'll figure it out on our end.
We had that discussion before we walked in here,
so I appreciate it.
Yeah thank you.
I appreciate creative finance I really do.
But we don't get to do that here.
We have to balance our budget.
And we're already under tough financial constraints.
And the staff knows just exactly what
it is to cut things they would like
to do because we can't do them.
Yes, ma'am.
Thank you.
So any discussion anybody else just one thing
that I had talked about before.
And Derek, maybe you can weigh in on this.
Is there a way that we could work
on this between now and the next meeting
and have it approved, except for.
The letter of credit, but the other language
work on that as far as just the agreement draft,
I reviewed it thoroughly.
But for that portion that's consistent with our
standard template agreement.
So I think if they were to remove that and run it by me
and that again, we could probably put it on an agenda
unless, I'm sorry, we wouldn't see it again.
No, of course you wouldn't.
Yeah the town commission approves
all capacity agreements.
Oh, yes.
I'm sorry.
Yes, sir.
Yeah no, you would definitely see it again.
But I don't know if we have capacity.
And I want to speak to that because we
have wastewater capacity issues now for about 18 months.
So if we have capacity, yes.
If we do not, then no.
With the timing of this Derrick, then yes, we will have capacity.
Yeah because this one will be coming online
when our plants under construction
and we have a limited amount that's still sellable right now.
This will eat up some of that.
And is that because the project only demands 750 aircrew as
opposed to some other projects we've seen
that demand more than that.
Yeah plus this will get phased in.
I don't remember what the first phase is.
But yeah, we were working on the timing of it
at our last meeting.
And so yeah.
So it's 250 yards.
No, it's 28,000 gallons a day.
Yeah and we have that available right now.
We 150,000 50,000 gallons left to sell.
So it'll take from that 150,000 gallons.
Well, the hotel's 250.
The ilfs 250.
And the memory cares 250.
Yeah the first phase is what they're talking about today.
Correct Yes.
Yeah so just to recap for the Commission,
the amount of capacity they're requesting
is less than other projects that we
have previously the commission previously denied.
So there is capacity.
All right.
So we are going to basically table this with new discussion.
Make the changes and bring it forward
to the September 9 meeting.
Correct is that I'm OK with that.
And do we need to vote on this.
I don't think so.
No no.
The direction from the commission is clear.
So where you stand.
All right.
Thank you.
Now we have Mayor and Commissioner reports.
Commissioners report.
I just want to report.
I was so excited to go to our back
to school teacher breakfast held in Leesburg for all of the Lake
County teachers villages elementary, Carver
middle school, and Leesburg high school
attended, which is where all of our kiddos and Lady lake go.
So it's very exciting.
Glad to represent the town of Lady lake
and we have some really devoted teachers to Lake County.
Would you do the night out to let's come.
Oh yeah, I did.
Yes, yes.
Thank you.
And thank you to Chief.
We went around town, a lady lake,
for its first National Night out in August.
We were able to visit the quarters
apartment complex, the Cove, and also skyline hills.
So great to get out there and be with our police.
Police department and see our residents.
So yes.
Thank you for that reminder.
Yeah, absolutely.
Thank you, Commissioner McLean.
Since we last met, I had the opportunity
to attend the Florida league of mayors conference
annual conference that was in conjunction with the Florida
league of cities, where we were educated
about the current issues facing various municipalities.
And as has been requested at an earlier meeting
from my fellow commissioners, I will be drafting a more detailed
report as to the things that were spoken about
and things learned in that particular set of conferences
made a lot of connections with other commissioners
around the state at their council members,
and came to understand how the potential of the new Amendment
three may affect their municipalities, towns,
and villages.
I find it amazing that there are so many bright
and engaged individuals willing to give their time, some
for no compensation whatsoever.
It's an amazing event to talk and to become
more aware of our state with our 411 municipalities.
And the mayor was there, too, and I'll let you do the rest.
All right.
Do you have anything.
Commissioner?
I do not.
All right.
Too, went to Hollywood.
That's Hollywood, Florida, and.
I serve on a number of committees,
and I'm going to resign from a couple
because I don't have time for anything else.
So I spent most of my time doing committee work
and I went to two or three.
What do we call them.
Seminars, workshops, seminars.
Something like that.
Anyway, a couple of them were very good
and one or two were, I don't know.
I left before they were over.
When you have a panel of people who are talking about,
there's a subject you're supposed to be hearing about
and they end up bragging on themselves
rather than telling you anything new.
Anyhow, it was a long week and I arrived home on Saturday night.
I didn't stay for the final dinner and that's all I've got.
Do we have anything from the town manager.
Good evening, Mayor.
Commissioners first of all, I want to give a special thanks
to Nathan Cobb.
And we love the million dollars.
We'll be applying for more.
And behind every great representative,
there's always like behind every great team town manager.
There's department managers that apply for these.
Thank you.
And so I just want to recognize your staff.
And so faith and Christian just for the audience
where you just stand up, turn around.
They help seat.
They're doing the work behind the scenes
to help people like Katie and me get it right.
And Mike, if he's left, Mike didn't receive his this year,
but we appreciate all the help we get from you.
So thank you.
Thank you.
And yeah thank you.
And I also want to congratulate mayor Friedman.
Mayor Pro Tem Roberts and Commissioner sage.
They're running unopposed this year.
So there'll be no election.
And they'll be choosing a new mayor in November.
So I want to congratulate them.
So I get the same bosses for a little while.
And I also just want to mention we had no upcoming events.
I'm going now.
So will that be it for me tonight.
Thank you.
Do you have anything from our.
Yes, Mayor.
Just one item.
If you recall, the group they own and operate
wireless tower infrastructure.
And so my understanding that the direction from the majority
of the commission was to ask them to allow for a site
specific approval process so that the town new town
commission knew exactly where these cell phone towers were
going and to approve them on that basis, as opposed
to a master list of properties that would govern
approvals moving forward.
So we proposed that to them about a week ago,
and they wrote back essentially that they
could not accept that change.
And before spending more staff time and effort on this,
I wanted direction from the Commission
on whether or not the majority still
wants to proceed with that site specific
approval process or not.
Well, in my way of thinking by not having any control
over the sites that they choose, we're kind of just
giving it away.
I mean, if they decide they want to put
a tower in one of the entrances to Snoopy park,
it would seem untenable.
And I don't know what their criteria for a site is.
Maybe they're saying that some sites won't work better,
will work better than others.
I don't know.
They had, I think.
What was it.
15 sites, possible sites on their map.
And many of them.
I couldn't understand why they were so close together.
It seemed.
I don't it seems like we need a little bit of control here.
Yeah and the other thing, I think Commissioner sage
had some concerns about the financial opportunity,
how it was going to affect the town and.
And I thought that presentation was
I didn't know why they didn't have
someone standing at the podium.
The idea of talking to us over the phone that was a little less
than professional.
It's a big deal for them.
It's a big deal for us.
So an in-person, in-person visit would have been
a more appropriate, I think.
So anybody else.
Yeah, I just had a comment.
I actually was under the impression
that it was more the Commission's ability
to deny a site versus a site specific approval process, which
is a different horse of the same color,
is that they had proposed their 13 sites.
And we just wanted to make sure, like the mayor said,
that it wasn't in some place that we thought inappropriate.
So it's kind of different than saying
we want to approve each one.
We just want to say, no, not there.
Over there was what I left thinking.
What was your I agree.
And also the financial piece is still very unclear.
So I think Commissioner sage and I both agree that we needed
to see more financially concrete numbers of what we would be
receiving to make sure it's a palatable project,
so I agree with Commissioner Roberts.
That wasn't necessarily site specific
that we wanted in the agreement, just the ability
to say no or yes.
And then how much are we going to make.
I mean, if it's $2 or $10 million,
that's a whole different animal.
So I'm still very unclear on the financial side,
which is much more I think, directional at that point.
We can debate the rest.
Yeah, I came away with the impression
that Taylor was going to go do the research
and I said, no, you guys shouldn't do the research.
They should be able to put a package together and tell us
what does their tower, one tower make with two providers,
three providers, four providers based upon the other places
that they already have contracts.
I would assume that it would be generally a similar amount
within a range.
Certainly ballpark was basically what we were asking for,
not a down to a penny type of thing,
but to understand what the range or parameter
was per possible site that they might place a tower.
And I concur with Mayor Freeman.
Their presentation was less than to be desired.
So come talk to us and do the work right.
Yeah so with regard to the veto, it sounds like you
just want veto authority.
Their point was that it's easier to market sites
that have already some vesting.
And so I think that was the core concern
of a specific approval process.
It would be the same with the veto process.
But I'll get clarification from them
that the commission, the majority commission,
wants veto authority over any particular site.
Is that correct Yes All right.
That was what we thought.
If they're willing to do that, which I don't think they are,
then I'll ask them to present again the financials moving
forward and what they anticipate the revenue to be for the town.
Is that.
Yes Fair.
Here I find it hard to believe that every municipality
that they go to says, well, you can put them wherever you want.
Well, they have a master list of properties.
And so I think what their intention
is to market that whole list.
And then if it conforms with the zoning, then it goes through
and you really have no discretion.
If it.
Well, it seemed to me when I saw the map that most of it
was public land.
Oh, all of it.
All of it.
Yes, sir.
I think I understood clearly.
I have nothing, nothing further.
Thank you.
And now we have public comment.
Do we have any comment cards.
We have one speaker, Mr. mayor.
Jason accurso.
OK good evening, Jason Caruso.
I'd like to just place it on public record
that there has been a request for a proclamation
to honor Charlie Kirk.
I hopefully, we put that in properly
if it was not submitted in the proper way,
if you would let me know at the end of the meeting
so it can be submitted properly.
But I want to make sure that was on public record
so that everybody knew that proclamation has been submitted.
Now since nobody has decided to take
me up on a face to face meeting, I hate to come back to this.
It's like beating a dead horse.
We talked about it the last time I was up here,
but all I want to do is meet with a couple of you guys
and talk about it.
What guides your moral compass.
Where do you draw the line.
I don't understand, I don't know.
I'd love to be your advocate and say to the people,
well, no, this is what they actually think.
I can't do that.
I have to assume what you think by the actions
and by what's out there in the community.
I want you to understand what I think.
I want you to know what I think and why I think that way.
So you might be able to be an advocate for me,
saying at some point saying, no, no, no,
that's not what they think.
We might still think each other is wrong.
We might not change our minds, but we'll have an understanding
which we don't have right now.
I know we don't have it.
There's no way we have it because we've not talked.
And it's not possible to have an understanding
without conversation.
That's what Charlie Kirk did so well.
That's why he deserves a proclamation.
He deserves a proclamation because he stood up
and he had conversations with people he did not agree with.
So once again, what is your moral compass.
How do you draw the line.
Where do you draw the line and why do you draw the line there.
You feel it's God made you this way.
That's fine.
You're an adult. You can be that way.
You can live in whatever way you wish to live.
I don't have a problem with that.
I do have a problem with government
honoring that, though, because that's not government's place
to honor that.
Once again, government's place is to deal with municipal items
like you've done tonight.
What you've done tonight is absolutely stupendous work.
I appreciated listening to the work that
was being performed tonight.
It was great.
I agreed with a lot of what you said.
I disagreed with some of it, and that's fine.
I disagree with people that I normally agree with.
And I agree with some of the things that people
I normally disagree with.
That's the way it's supposed to be in government.
We're supposed to be able to stand
up here and talk about that.
We're not supposed to be talking about moral or religious issues
at the government level.
So let's get back to that.
I will say that overall you guys have a tough job.
I don't envy a lot of times what you do.
I did run, I did lose, I wish that I could have won.
It's a tough job that you guys perform up there.
You guys take a lot of criticism duly, unduly.
However, I think this is duly.
Duly noted.
Criticism please help us understand
where you're coming from.
Because without that understanding,
all we're going to do is keep on coming up here.
Thank you guys and have a great evening.
Thank you.
We have one more little piece of business.
Not so little, actually.
I would just like to offer my condolences to Mike sage,
who lost his mother last week.
And I know she was very elderly, but doesn't make any difference.
Still a tough thing.
Thank you.
Thank you very much.
And this meeting is adjourned.