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okay I got my Yankee one sir I got for
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ahead that are you a Yankee well I'm a
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I've been watching you know I watch
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made me appreciation with on the west
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and Central it was like oh man just
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like wait till you sleeping the game
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oh it's an interesting question Su are

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you I'm not the girl that usually
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about it is always free in that
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hear it is Snip but it's

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good I'd rather be
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yeah seems to be with from everyone that
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yes an example
where group that comes in and like

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condemns them to hell and they each Tak

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minutes

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there's better use of
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close together and use all the skirting
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soen I've seen some of the videos that
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the extra table and they were like
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everybody okay I'm going to go ahead and
call the meeting to

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order oh meeting the order please stand
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light
I of the United States of America and to

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the rep for it stands
Nation

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indivisible okay I know everyone by
heart uh mayor Hillary momson here

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councelor gilan here councelor Carswell
pres councelor pson

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here okay we are all
here first up on our

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agenda is the appointment of Eric quilan
was that how we say your last name

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quillin
quillin um and this was a carryover from

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a previous meeting so all the
information was not reprinted in the

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packet so I just wanted to reiterate
real quick what I had shared with Eric

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on the appointment this is an
appointment to fill the um unexpired

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term uh that was created through um Jim
drevan um and this was something I sent

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out to council end of August and part of
it just says that the applications

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before me brought four wide variety of
candidates and possibilities I Ed the

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following 10 questions which was also
included in the packet last month for

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the candidates to to guide our
discussion together one area of focus I

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had was making sure my selection would
represent a large population of the town

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with a diverse
population um and so with that I put

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forth um my nomination and
so I laay that before you guys that a

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nomination of

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Eric is it a good time you think it's
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now now that we taken care of
the well I think especially for this

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seat This was um a selection that was
made prior to all of that um which was

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partly why I'm referencing that I did
email out and made public that my

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nomination was for Eric prior two things
I think that's important for our city to

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know that our residents that this was an
application that came in without any of

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the water rate
issues but for a wider range of things

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but um I do think that especially with
multiple openings that for the benefit

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of the city so that we do have a quorum
for something when I know that I had a

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few counselors that might not have been
able to make it tonight we wouldn't be

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able to make you know just with this
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takes almost like one person two people
and we don't have Forum we all move to

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accept the appointment of Eric in the
city

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council to the expired term December
31st 2024 created by Jim's

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vacancy all
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okay any further
discussion um all in

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favor I any opposed passes unanimously
welcome to the council all we'll let

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yeah Eric is going to um offal handshake
you can sir thank

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you I don't know if you want your papers
you brought or we have for um Eric will

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be U sworn in through either the option
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session but our Carter does give him
permission to take a seat

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immediately so he can take the

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seat without signing it once appoint the
pointed the the Els are gonna just be

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more of a regulatory function but you
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after the beginning of the

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year
um yeah so welcome I do want to give

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Eric the you can pick wherever you want
to sit s um the permission to know that

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as a brand new counselor um one speak up
don't feel like oh no I shouldn't have

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asked that ask we don't expect you to
know every process nor do I yet know

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every process and you're more than
welcome to abstain if you feel like hey

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I just got on the table
and you know but you are fly on Council

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so welcome thank you um can I
do a quick introduction yes so my name

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is Eric Gan my family and I have lived
here for eight years and I teach English

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at Dayton High School I've been a
teacher most of my professional

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life and we opened a coffee shop down
the street a year ago so that was a big

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decision for our family kind of a kind
of a little bit risky you know kind yeah

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have good
coffee

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uh I'm excited to take this position uh
I'm I have a very busy life there's nine

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people living in my house grand kids
dogs cats but uh I'm looking forward to

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this opportunity because we love this
town really happy that we moved here um

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we're raising our family here and it's
um you know I just want to I want to see

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this town prosper and grow you know in
the right way how how we as a community

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see that how we envision it so I'm happy
to serve that's kind of been my role in

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public public service has been my job as
a teacher that's what I do so I'm

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excited to to be here and I want to
especially thank you Lee for uh tbling

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the first
motion because when I you know attending

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those meetings stepping up there and
having to vote I it would have been

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really awkward and maybe inappropriate I
probably would have abstained and for

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clarity it's just you know I don't think
you have seen all the numbers and the

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budget yeah and I haven't yeah so thanks
for that because that would have put me

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kind of in a tight spot you know
apprciate I appreciate that too so

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welcome um with that and lastly just let
you know um you're on boarding process

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I'll get with you sometime tomorrow
we'll get your email set up we have an

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orientation packet budget stuff all that
stuff will go over maybe for about an

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hour hour and a half or so once you come
whenever you have

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time um so with that um we do need to
declare the vacant

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seats created by the um recognition of
councelor Shaw and Johnson um they were

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both emailed to
council and in our Charter it states

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that we need to
formally acknowledge the vacancy they

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have already the resignation stands no
matter what but we do have to so all

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move to declare on the city council due
to councelor Michael sha and Joe

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Johnson's resignation effective the
dates on their respective resignation

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letters so second any further
discussion all in favor I I any

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opposed okay um I do want to quickly
just share the same as I did the last

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time we had a vacancy declared um this
is a little bit of a overlap but yet not

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um last time I was very clear in my
process and I want to be very clear

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again um my main objective of taking a
pause of 30 days to open up the actively

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seeking applications is I want to make
sure that I have a variety of

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applications in front of me with as many
options as possible um that doesn't mean

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that my intent to um the goal was to
declare vacancies last month and I um

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when I selected a seat for um the seat
that Eric just or counselor qu just

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filled it wasn't a who would I pick it
was a hard who would I not pick um and

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so with that I know it's a little bit
awkward that um I did put forth a name

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that I wanted to nominate um but at the
same time I do find that we are in a new

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situation it was a new territory where
all of a sudden sudden with two

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counselors resigning back to back and
another appointment that puts three

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seats that are getting appointed which
is half the council and then I break the

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tie because of that I want to be very
careful that the council seats do not

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get appointed where it's 100 heavy
loaded um just from my viewpoint so I

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did speak with um counselor Paulson who
is the council president to ask her to

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come alongside me um when I start
interviewing candidates again um and so

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that might be that um somebody who's
already been put forward before um I

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would like them to also interview with
her even if I'm already comfortable with

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that but also I would like to reach out
to you guys that um feel free to share

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as much as you want of your opinions on
how to handle especially that third seat

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I do want to respect the fact
that um you guys are hold seat

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especially the three original counselors
tonight hold seats that they were

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elected for and um I don't take lightly
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responsibility that I have to appoint
and I want to respect your seats as the

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same as respecting the open seats so
long story short once again there'll be

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a 30-day window that I am actively
seeking

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applications and um councelor pson is
going to interview along with

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um could be together could be separate
depending on everyone's schedules at the

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same time if there's anyone you guys
want to talk with you are more than

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welcome and I encourage you to reach out
to those

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candidates um or applicants I should say
and we'll go through the same steps and

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my hope is to appoint or decide what to
do with those two vacan seats at the

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same time and now was this from the
resignation date 30 days from today

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although we have had some applications
come in I've contacted letting them know

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that
yeah 30 days from this vacancy or we

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just declared vacancy so so mayor M if I
may clarify so we'll get the ads out

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tomorrow just like last time um as a
reminder since both these positions were

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just recently elected um they the
official term ends on December 31st 2026

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but they will have to run again in the
next election to keep the seat yes the

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appointment only goes through until the
next election so we actually have an

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election where there are five yeah five
councilors and one mayor seats yes so

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six
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um citizen input on non-agenda
items um I have Tom

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Reed hello hello hello I want to talk
about talking about the storm water

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basis which I don't know I I I put
together a little thing I've only got

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four copies thank you it's got a little
map to show you where they

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are I was here once before a couple
months ago the situation is this when

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the developers developed the northeast
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they created
HOAs and put the storm water Bas in

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maintenance and ownership onto those
HOAs I think this is

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part of the sewer system I don't think
an HOA has any business being involved

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in it whatsoever I don't know why I pay
taxes if it's not for the city to do

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stuff like this it's drainage it's it's
land that's sitting there doing nothing

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a low area that the water collects in so
it doesn't

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flood not residential it's not
commercial it's not Parks and Recreation

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it's sewer system so I'd like the
council to consider and I'd like to have

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conversations about moving the ownership
of these to the city which will save two

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HOAs up there $30,000 per year and by
what I can figure out won't cost the

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city hardly anything because you got an
umbrella liability policy it goes under

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you've got contracts with landscapers
already um and we can get rid of the

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HOAs it's just another level of
administration that um I guarantee you

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nobody up in that area wants and from
talking to the people in the

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neighborhood we feel like we're getting
double taxed we pay all the taxes to the

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city and then we have to take care of
part of the infrastructure ourselves so

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we just think it's unfair and we'd like
to have the city council consider it so

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my question to the city council is
what's the next step to talk about it

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can I ask go quick you're you're saying
we so are you coming before us tonight

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as Tom we the homeowner or are you
coming before us I know that you're on

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an HOA are you speaking speak I just
want to talk yes yes

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yes I I was on the HOA to clarify for
you Brandon I was on the HOA thought my

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time there was done and resigned but um
now have applied to be back on there and

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have been accepted the formal meeting to
accept that is October the 26 okay so as

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but you can contact I can give you the
person's name at management trust so as

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of tonight you're coming just as Tom re
though I just want to make sure that um

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well I I guess the official staff hasn't
put on the people have all replied via

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email saying yes we will reinstate Tom
and I was on there before so we got the

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emails very reinstating um me but you
know really as as as one of the people

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in the um one of the HOAs I think that's
sufficient for me to raise the issue to

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the oh yeah I just wanted to know if it
I'm not I'm not asking to make a

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decision I'm not acting in the role of
making a decision at this point I I

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think we need to have a conversation
about these because we're getting danged

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and there's 23 households up there that
are screaming saying hey come on so you

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know they they're upset and they want
out of this it's been going on for in

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mine for 18 years and then the ones over
on 16th Street for less than that but

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they all Joe Johnson and you know you
guys know Joe she's the president of the

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other HOA and I've spoken with her and
she's on board with me that and I

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understand do sense you can't speak on
her behalf right no of

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course absolutely and that's why down
the road when it comes time to do a

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transaction or something sure you're
going to need the board of members to be

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present and whatever I I assume all of
that but before we get to that we've got

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to have agreement that yes it makes
sense for the city to take

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ownership and so I'm trying to find out
what the next step is to have that

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discussion uh I can't speak for
everybody I'm not I'm not interested in

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the city taking that at this
point it's not something that can you

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tell me why what's the reasoning that
redistributes cost from an HOA where the

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expense was originally put before
homeowners bought the houses and

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redistributes it to all taxpayers people
bought those houses knowing and that's

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not appropriate for something that's
part of the infrastructure well I mean

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you can look at different things as
infrastructure too there every HOA

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generally has it's usually not always
usually an HOA because they common land

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that they can't develop and that's why
they have to it and I think that

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generally
people at least have the whether or not

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where they have the information to know
those things I've been in HOAs I've

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never had an HOA at land that couldn't
be developed so I don't know not this is

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you know part this this is the
discussion it needs to be had that's I

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understand that but that's not what the
the agenda says right right I understand

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that so can we do something to create a
discussion panel or

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something at this point and I saw your
emails thank you for that you know yeah

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I appreciate you send the emails but
like

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I've just told you my stance on it
that's why I have not asked that to be

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added to our
agenda that's just where I'm at um can I

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ask how much it
is is this a 30,000 30,000 is 20,000 on

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our HOA and

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10,000
272 a

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year 2025 bucks a month for everybody
forever to own a storm water basin

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my stance said the city's got all the
expertise my stance is um along the

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lines with um councilor gilan the only
difference I would put is if the

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HOA wants to come before
Council as an HOA they can then re so

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you need me to come back in November
with something saying that the HOA is

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asking on their behalf to then possibly
I mean I'll be I'll be on the board so

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usually you'd have like meeting

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minutes okay that is something that we
could 26 so you know but as I know that

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a couple months ago you came before
Council and our directive was to connect

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with our city admin which I know that
there was some discussion and that at

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that time if
Council sorry I'm just GNA have to

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correct you whatever all I asked for was
a name at County I did not ask for

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Brandon to have the conversations with
County with me flued and never able to

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okay but that's his prerogative okay but
did yeah but let just the record

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straight he said he knew somebody County
and that he was going to give me a name

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did eventually after having a
conversation with the guy making the

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decision on their own without me even
being able to explain our cost and our

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position and our thoughts okay so um
that means that means that any further

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directive to Brandon is the same as
where it would have been two months ago

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that I would say hey is get get him that
information he's got you that

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information the only thing I could see
that would change it is as an h0a coming

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to us possibly you got the information
so process and and you just need me to

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be as a board
member

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representative but that's change what
Lee thinks I mean just I don't I can't

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Joe are you open to listen I understand
how passionate you are trust me I can

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hear it like 20 bucks you know it's
$30,000 a year these people are coughing

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up which would cost the city maybe a
grand so I'm gonna we're going in

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circles and for respect okay so so I'm
hearing I'm I'm hearing no I'm hearing

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no okay so I'm going to say it I got 123
households that got voting people in

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them Fant okay we're gonna go to De
democracy I kind of expected this I

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gotta say I'm disappointed we are
done I just got your time is done thank

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you for coming app thank you sad thank
you thank you sir okay any other citizen

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input
no okay Christine were you nope okay I

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could tell if you okay um next up
additions or deletions to the agenda yes

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mayor I actually completely forgot um
but under 12 uh F I'd like to at least

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address the sewer rate study from
oawu um and I I knew you were G to ask

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that and I would actually like to
broaden that topic to discuss a little

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bit more about just
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in folder context since we just came off
the not that it's a big water rate study

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question I just have a question that
would fall in line during that I would

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like to remove the code enforcement
discussion primarily because the sheet

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we were given has absolutely zero
Direction on the discussion points and

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there was no way for us to prepare for
that discussion um I would like to leave

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it the purpose was was for us to start
it as a quick conversation just the

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purpose is fine but I didn't have chance
to look at it beforehand so I don't feel

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like anybody here is going to be
equipped to have meaningful conversation

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so I would like to remove it put it back
on next month with a little more

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context I think if we leave it it will
give me time during that to explain to

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you that there was no decisions to me
anybody else

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opinions we bump it just I just want to
point out that it was supposed to be on

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last mon I'm already done and I'm
putting it on because and it's fine that

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it's you can say it's supposed to be
somewhere but if you don't get the

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counselors any context for which to
prepare it it's not a fair the context

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was to bring it forth to see what are
tell me the context now I don't have

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time to prepare for it now okay so
that's that's why I would like to remove

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it AG so I am I will respect the fact
that that wants to be removed um Brandon

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I will send to you the verbage that I
would like somehow to at least be

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considered I am the one that asked to
have it put on on behalf of multiple

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citizens so I don't want to drop it um
my apologies if it came off that way the

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whole point was to keep it very broad so
um I will rephrase

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that and work with Brandon to make sure
that that is worded more correctly um to

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become audience month are you guys okay
with that

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yeah
okay so any other so anyway so

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um 12f Eric would be the sewer rate
We'll add that to 12f sorry I wasn't

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very clear so that you know where to
when we add something we it'll be an

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action item then and we are taking off
13A okay any other additions or

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deletions

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okay um report from La at fire

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to good evening um so last month um we
had a fil the boot event that ended up

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getting canceled last second um
unfortunately uh due to some unforeseen

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uh circumstances we had to cancel that
and the plan now is to hopefully do it

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in the spring
sometime uh the volunteers are currently

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working on the schedule of events for
December um as far as our Christmas

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banquet
or um you know whether we're going to do

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the light parade and all that stuff
again

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um let's
see uh we're still having issues with

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our current brush rig um we've
got um constantly troubleshooting

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something different on it um right now
we're having issues with the the pump

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starting so uh and batteries dying on us
constantly so uh our fall academy starts

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October 14th it runs every other
weekend um with the live burn and the

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last day being uh the weekend of
December

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3rd uh we have two uh volunteers that
will be attending that

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Academy um and then several of our other
volunteers will be going as uh conre to

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help
teach

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um we're doing a promotion process for
lieutenants on November

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1st uh we've had about 200 hours of
combined time of of training between

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everyone uh there's a typo on here I I
have 22 it's actually 24 Personnel on

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the roster Five Knights uh that were
staffed

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we had three new Personnel that have
joined the Department and last night at

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our meeting we had two new people that
came in that live in in the city that

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would like to join as
well uh and for the month we had 60

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calls that's all I have the um blackout
part is that addresses that is addresses

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yes is there anything in the reports
that show like a time stamp of when

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these calls come in when they come in
yeah I I just was I noticed that there's

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18 calls that was unable and I'm just
curious if there's that so or I looked

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at that because I did notice that there
were 18 um two of those calls were

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entered wrong they were actually staffed
um they were cancelled in route um so

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with the 16 remaining calls seven of
them were to Mutual Aid partners um that

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we were not able to staff due to the
fact that um when we had day daytime

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staff there uh we didn't have someone
else to come in we require a certain

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amount to go to our our neighbors um the
rest of them they were uh going

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uh after hours or whatever those calls
um it was just we didn't have the the

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volunteers to be able to staff it um
the remaining nine uh six were on

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weekends Saturdays and
Sundays here are on um and then the

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remaining after that were all um during
the week that we also times that we did

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not have our uh staff on um the
volunteers you know they they're

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volunteer so um I understand and I won't
fault them for not being able to make

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calls however I will say that those
calls just because they say that they're

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unfilled does not mean that they are
completely unfilled usually there is

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someone that is going to it whether it
be one of our mutual Aid Partners or if

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it's um a medical call or always having
McMinville ambulance because they they

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have the ASA with us they're the ones
that are responsible for the ambulance

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service for us
okay well just Carri blackout was

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addresses yeah I I blocked out the
addresses um we've I can redo this

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report to make it look something
different so that there's not blacked

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out sections on there but I um truly
feel that not every although this is all

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public record um I don't feel like it
needs to be out there for everyone I was

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just so we just want to make sure was
there yeah I just want to make sure what

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that was that was blocked out okay no no
need to change it all

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right okay thank
you oh

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Sheriff I know
that sheriff Morrison is on vacation

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correct yeah he's on he actually emailed
me from a cruise that he forgot that day

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um and with me being um away as well we
couldn't get any representation but

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he'll go the the last two months um
morisy just started last month and he's

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been pretty active especially in the
daytime I probably seen him six or seven

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people in the morning just pulling
people over for speeding so I know

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there's some activity with him recently
so um yeah okay

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um report from public works great well I
have your public the public works repor

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is here um but I did want to introduce
Chad Snider our new Public Works

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director um Chad will be the one uh
doing the report monthly from here on

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out um started last week um he's been
kicking going uh we had a we had a

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transition meeting today with Mark the
previous uh system supervisor on some

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items uh a lot of things that we're
seeing over the past week week and a

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half that we need to work on and we'll
be going through those processes here um

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so um some of this stuff on the the
Public Works report is kind of redundant

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to what we uh what I discussed later on
in my administrator's report for the

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water and billing uses update but um if
there's anything else you have any

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questions on I can answer for you I
questions real quick though welcome Chad

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thank you
um the 34 leaks on the homeowner side

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those uh concentrated in particular
neighborhoods yes um like I had

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mentioned I think in my on last month
report um there was a good chunk of

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those that were going to be in the the
subdivision these had additional checks

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in them yeah yeah yeah these have these
we're seeing the same Concentra so there

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was um we after coming out of the last
meeting um we did another check I think

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it was on Jefferson and there's one more
that you and I have kind of been looped

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in on that I'm trying to work through um
that's the hardest one I think

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everything else has kind of been um
mitigated to least um if there were

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leaks some of them were small and just
as a reminder if you do catch a leak on

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your property and you bring that uh that
bill in we we give Credits based on uh

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what type of leak who fixed it you know
how much water it used so sure since um

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chat clarify Brandon yeah the credits
that also depends on whether it falls on

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the city or the homeowner correct
correct correct it's all it's all it'll

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all be homeowner side uh repairs repair
credits

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okay um can I ask that we put the month
prior numbers next to the current

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numbers okay just there's room on the
paper and I I found myself going back

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and looking at what last months were if
it's not too big of a deal just to helps

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give a little bit more context to what
those numbers

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are
so anyway welcome

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Chad make yourself at
home and we look forward

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to see what you can add to the
report okay um approval of minutes we

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have three different sets so let's the
first one was revision to July 13th

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council
meeting um if I could recall correctly

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uh Madame mayor this the I just had one
of the um the tiebreaking vote which I

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think uh you mentioned to go ahead and
make sure that was notated and then I

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think councelor guilan had mentioned
something about um the changes there

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looks good okay yeah um and the last
thing that I had that saw on there it's

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not a huge deal to me but it was the
directive to reach out to the people

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that weren't there for the grant that we
never asked for that to be rescheduled

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that that was they're welcome to come
back but that was supposed to be changed

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but wasn't but that's not a big enough
thing to stop from approving

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it so Eric what we do right now is if
someone wants to do motion to

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accept unless you guys want to do them
all at once I like that idea I am going

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to move to accept the July
2023 council meeting minutes with the

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revisions the August 10th Council
minutes and the September 14th Council

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minutes a second all in
favor any opposed

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okay moving
on

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um items fire trck

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Bill Brandon I will yeld that to
you

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just thank you Madame mayor and we have
Chief here to answer any questions but

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uh as part of the capital Improvement
plan for the 2023 2024 budget and

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included a new fire rescue vehicle for
the Department uh uh I think two or

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three meetings three meetings ago it was
approved for the chassis and that's

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ready to go now this bid was for our
buildout and you see the three bids that

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we received with the lowest being
Cascade Fire Equipment of

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9,355 um according to Chief me if I'm
wrong they would deliver the um

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everything to the to the the vendor
correct and we're not we're out of that

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now

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correct they're bring the they're
bringing everything to we don't have to

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like how we have to pay the $500 if we
didn't go through them it's going to be

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yeah it'll be
sent

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yes so with that so with the if if the
if approved $19

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$355,000 and the um the chassis we would
still be at about $20,000 so there would

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be some savings from the projected
expenditure of

424
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:18,000
$225,000 it'll probably be about another
another couple Grand just to do the

425
00:39:15,359 --> 00:39:21,000
final finishing painting and
branding

426
00:39:22,240 --> 00:39:29,920
yeah no I don't think can I ask real
quick chief I mean there's big

427
00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:35,920
difference in prices but the difference
between like the 144 and the 119 is not

428
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:41,200
it's I want to make sure whenever I'm
looking at the lowest amount that we're

429
00:39:38,720 --> 00:39:44,040
not cutting Corners just to get it as
low as

430
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:51,720
possible
um we've actually had Cascade has buil

431
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:57,160
sorry Cascade by equipment built several
of the apparatus around the area and

432
00:39:54,400 --> 00:40:01,960
they've done a good job um
you know we had a good report on the you

433
00:40:00,119 --> 00:40:06,720
know as far as talking with the salesman
and getting this stuff taken care of

434
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:12,400
they they're really on top of it um
we've had one built over in Carlton um

435
00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:16,040
and anytime we've had any issues with it
or anything they're super responsive to

436
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:20,760
being able to take care of whatever the
little issue would be um you know we

437
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:27,200
have small small things that were just
you know needed to be touched up but

438
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:31,000
overall they're good I had a question
for you Chief the will the build out I

439
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:36,440
don't know if you know her Brandon will
it be ready before the next Fire season

440
00:40:33,720 --> 00:40:42,839
or you know when it will be online uh
with Cascade um Fire Equipment yes it

441
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:48,920
will be uh they have us on the books to
start on May if we're able to get the

442
00:40:45,359 --> 00:40:53,000
chassis over to them sooner um that's
great I've asked these guys to make sure

443
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:58,400
that you know I'm trying to figure out
how when when we can get them on the

444
00:40:55,280 --> 00:41:04,359
books so asked who one of these when
they get started everyone else um

445
00:41:01,720 --> 00:41:09,079
couldn't do it until next year next
budget so I asked these guys they said

446
00:41:07,079 --> 00:41:15,119
they could do it now so I asked that
they put us on there just in case as a

447
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:19,160
placeholder right so we placehold there
the

448
00:41:16,240 --> 00:41:24,560
others the next so then we would not get
it until probably next

449
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:28,760
fall how long could we expect that
vehicle to be like functioning and doing

450
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:34,079
its job it sounds like it'll solve a lot
of your problems with the batteries

451
00:41:30,119 --> 00:41:41,200
obviously like it's 10 years so
um most of the time uh there 20 years is

452
00:41:39,359 --> 00:41:45,520
what we're kind of running them like the
one that we currently have is 25 years

453
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:48,880
old and it's you know it's like any
vehicle though you know the older it

454
00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:53,359
gets the more problems you have with
them um granted these don't go out a lot

455
00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:58,440
they don't have a lot of miles on them
but they do get driven pretty hard when

456
00:41:54,960 --> 00:42:04,400
they do get driven um and used pretty
hard when they get used

457
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:08,640
so thanks I'll make a motion to can I
continue this discussion here I think

458
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:13,400
that last month we went through heavy
financial review a lot of us did to make

459
00:42:10,839 --> 00:42:18,000
sure that we were making ends meet
through the city and I hope that opened

460
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:22,559
folks eyes to the financial situation
we're in and I I don't think it's

461
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:25,520
responsible to spend six figures on this
right now I understand that there's

462
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:30,079
different account and money comes from
different budget places but our spending

463
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:33,839
has been very laps over the last few
years and I do not see how we justify

464
00:42:32,359 --> 00:42:38,480
spending this especially when later in
this agenda we're looking to approve a

465
00:42:36,079 --> 00:42:43,400
supplemental judge or a supplemental
budget that uh reduces the city's

466
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:48,800
Revenue by almost a quarter million
dollars so I remain completely opposed

467
00:42:46,599 --> 00:42:54,400
to the
spending I had a Brandon you mentioned

468
00:42:51,319 --> 00:42:58,599
that this the vehicle has Revenue uh
generating possibilities correct on

469
00:42:56,559 --> 00:43:06,480
conflict only if we send it outside of
the city not even to service our

470
00:43:01,240 --> 00:43:11,800
city I I think that this is that it is a
hefty price tag but I because it is

471
00:43:09,559 --> 00:43:17,839
something that sits in its a fund
specifically for this um because we

472
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:20,800
approved the budget for it to be like we
put the fund there it's not like the

473
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:24,839
money is just there we put the money
there in the budget so we can't say the

474
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:31,040
money's already there we did my my
understanding is that

475
00:43:26,720 --> 00:43:37,800
that money was to be spent on vehicles
not because budget we

476
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:42,960
approved so if we're gonna buy one the
sooner the better I mean we've

477
00:43:40,319 --> 00:43:47,680
already I I think it's I think it's
better to get our finances in order

478
00:43:45,079 --> 00:43:51,520
before we continue to make six figure
purchases we already bought the chassis

479
00:43:49,839 --> 00:43:57,240
that's that was the
77,000 purch that's already purchased

480
00:43:54,200 --> 00:44:04,079
yeah um I will open before we get to
motioning to

481
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:10,079
um citizen or public input um Christine
you want to just the impact the vle

482
00:44:07,079 --> 00:44:10,079
didn't have a

483
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:20,200
rescue becomes unusable and we only have
the two engines let's see so if we only

484
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:27,240
have the two engines we have people that
have the ability to Able

485
00:44:23,559 --> 00:44:31,440
Drive um certain Vehicles so they can
drive the rescue the the smaller brush

486
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:34,760
rig they can actually take that and go
on calls they're not allowed to drive

487
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:39,200
the big apparatus until we go through
certain classes and have the ability to

488
00:44:36,559 --> 00:44:44,559
drive them um we have a lot more people
that are able to take that um so

489
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:50,440
therefore we're not taking the engines
for everything um also you know the

490
00:44:47,839 --> 00:44:56,559
engines are a lot more expensive to take
out they're bigger they use more fuel

491
00:44:54,960 --> 00:45:00,520
um
there's you know a lot more wear and

492
00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:05,520
tear on TR on the roads using those
bigger vehicles where the smaller ones

493
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:12,359
you know we're able to get in and out of
places a little bit better and um you

494
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:18,960
know it's a lot more user friendly for
us soce our volunteer

495
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:22,839
availability not responding our
volunteers us get regularly right now

496
00:45:21,119 --> 00:45:26,559
our fres vehicle given all the
mechanical issues you just listed they

497
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:32,599
have been using it
um because that's what we have and um

498
00:45:30,599 --> 00:45:39,200
for us it's better that it goes out
especially here in town it hasn't really

499
00:45:34,839 --> 00:45:43,559
left town for anything um it's here um
and if that is the case you know we have

500
00:45:40,720 --> 00:45:49,440
the ability to go get it or whatever but
um so far we haven't had any major

501
00:45:46,559 --> 00:45:55,119
issues on a call it seems once we get it
started and going it's going it's just

502
00:45:52,359 --> 00:45:58,280
that at night when it sits overnight and
it's got a low Drive somewhere that's

503
00:45:56,720 --> 00:46:01,040
where we have an issue and what's the
cost to fix the starter the switches in

504
00:45:59,960 --> 00:46:07,760
the
battery uh I'm not sure what the overall

505
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:14,800
cost is we keep taking it into our um
mechanic to have them work on it uh it's

506
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:20,680
just kind a constant and over again
so is the vehicle uh that we've already

507
00:46:18,079 --> 00:46:23,760
purchased the new one is is it a usable
vehicle without the build out or is it

508
00:46:22,599 --> 00:46:29,160
just would it just be sitting there
waiting to just be sitting there until

509
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:33,720
we decided if we decided to do it later
it wouldn't be serviceable or

510
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:38,119
usable or we can declare for the city to
resell it and recoup the money that we

511
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:46,800
spent on
it um yes well 14 Monro uh just

512
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:52,319
listening to the
conversation personal opinion would be

513
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:56,640
yes it's a large St of change sounds
like there's some budget issues you guys

514
00:46:53,720 --> 00:47:01,000
need to talk about discuss but at the
same

515
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:05,640
time you've already spent in a certain
amount of money on this it's okay to let

516
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:08,079
that go that's one that's one of course
there's no harm and no problem with

517
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:12,599
doing
that

518
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:16,920
but you've got part of it cost it sounds
like you've got it budgeted you can

519
00:47:14,240 --> 00:47:23,680
still resolve a budget issue down the
road but now you have to look

520
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:29,280
at what's the practicality of not buying
it or not going ahead because our

521
00:47:26,319 --> 00:47:35,319
department has a rig that is
usable under a limited

522
00:47:31,720 --> 00:47:39,800
basis but and when I say puts it puts
the city at risk it puts the city at

523
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:43,520
risk and nickeling diming when it comes
to

524
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:49,400
costs you know sometimes it's better to
go okay yeah it's a new

525
00:47:46,119 --> 00:47:55,000
vehicle but it's got a 25 year
lifespan yes it's expensive but guess

526
00:47:52,559 --> 00:47:58,599
what folks if you wait three years it's
only going to be more

527
00:47:57,079 --> 00:48:03,720
expensive
so I would

528
00:48:00,920 --> 00:48:09,160
say yeah all for saving cash but there's
a point in time where saving cash is not

529
00:48:05,920 --> 00:48:14,720
a good thing at the same time I would
strongly encourage whatever concerns Lee

530
00:48:11,720 --> 00:48:20,280
has Lee by all means work with the
councils bring up the issue as far as

531
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:24,800
come out with a
budget fix if you were or adjustment

532
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:28,520
that is actually going to work that's
going to support the capital equipment

533
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:32,359
so here's what I'll say whether it's
more expensive or not in three years is

534
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:36,440
based on a price tag not based on the
city's financial situation given the

535
00:48:34,760 --> 00:48:41,440
city's financial situation right now I
think that it's very expensive right now

536
00:48:39,240 --> 00:48:47,000
secondly we can fix budgets all we want
but what we need to fix is just the

537
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:51,960
insanely lack spending that is
occurring you fix a budget you can you

538
00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:57,880
manipulate numbers on paper all you want
we need to stop being so lack spending

539
00:48:54,599 --> 00:49:02,960
tax that's that's the part of the issue
agree and I thought it hit hard for a

540
00:49:00,240 --> 00:49:06,839
lot of people last month it did I think
I think what you're saying about we need

541
00:49:05,079 --> 00:49:12,440
to you know that there's still costs
that need to be um I mean anyone would

542
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:17,280
love to like their home budgets to be
zero dollar a month but there's cost

543
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:23,079
that's whether you have to tighten your
budget or not and I think that

544
00:49:20,839 --> 00:49:29,640
perhaps the budget committee needs to
reconvene in a larger thing but that

545
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:35,079
this was a purchase that we had already
started um I can't tell Council how to

546
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:41,079
move forward tonight but I think the
discussion has already have been had

547
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:46,480
that we understand your your view that
you want to curve all spending I I never

548
00:49:44,720 --> 00:49:49,880
don't put words my I did not say curve
all spending but we need to be more

549
00:49:48,319 --> 00:49:53,920
responsible we dealing with tax spare
money we can't just spend on everything

550
00:49:52,440 --> 00:50:00,960
that's put in front of us and that seems
to be what's happened so that that's

551
00:49:57,839 --> 00:50:06,440
ined so I guess right now it's and that
the motion can be made or no motion but

552
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:11,280
I think the discussion part is blowing
in circles so I'd like to make a motion

553
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:15,359
that we accept the bid from Cascade Fire
Equipment for 119

554
00:50:16,240 --> 00:50:27,880
355 I'm going a second okay I hear um to
accept the bid of $119 355 from Cascade

555
00:50:25,079 --> 00:50:34,160
Fire equipment I'm assum um it wasn't
stated but for the fire brush truck

556
00:50:30,359 --> 00:50:39,280
right um and authorize the city
administrator to sign and administer the

557
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:48,079
contract um any further
discussion okay all in favor I

558
00:50:44,359 --> 00:50:48,079
All Passes three to

559
00:50:49,559 --> 00:50:58,720
one okay next up
is resolution for for designa check

560
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:21,920
signing okay um
Brandon

561
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:28,799
any statement you need to make to us no
um so with um Kevin Perkins leaving um

562
00:51:26,079 --> 00:51:32,599
leaving his uh separating from work here
uh we need somebody else who doesn't

563
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:38,040
have access to the City Finance programs
who issues checks Etc um so right now

564
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:40,920
here at City Hall um it would be myself
and Robert who would be those two

565
00:51:39,559 --> 00:51:46,000
individuals who don't have access to
that so um Robert would be the backup

566
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:50,319
person replacing Kevin uh regarding
check signing abilities can I clarify

567
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:57,040
you said it needs to be somebody who
doesn't have access correct that's your

568
00:51:54,359 --> 00:52:00,880
recommendation well somebody who who's
not in the systems so um and we've

569
00:51:59,359 --> 00:52:05,680
talked about using Chad but Chad just
started so the next I

570
00:52:02,920 --> 00:52:09,200
know um so yeah um the goal I think is
eventually once we get to Kevin's

571
00:52:07,640 --> 00:52:14,640
position filled however that looks when
that happens um or when Chad uh

572
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:20,359
successfully here past probation period
um it could be changed but um Robert is

573
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:25,480
the only person here besides so Robert's
the only other staff member that doesn't

574
00:52:22,240 --> 00:52:31,000
I would recommend yes okay
recommendation aside yeah are there

575
00:52:28,359 --> 00:52:35,440
other employees I'm I just want to know
who our choices are yeah but I I don't

576
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:39,760
think Public Works should have to come
in sign checks when they when it's time

577
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:44,520
Robert's here he knows he knows the city
you know he knows kind of what to look

578
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:49,160
for but um it's completely up to you
all I will move to approve resolution

579
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:10,520
approved um action item 12C resolution
for water

580
00:53:06,200 --> 00:53:14,880
rates yes oh wait did I have to did I
have to read it out since it was a

581
00:53:12,319 --> 00:53:20,559
resolution yes just the the key heading
the resolution do so we have to re

582
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:27,760
revote on that correct with me read okay
so the motion's still alive but um

583
00:53:24,319 --> 00:53:36,480
before the city La at
Oregon um a resolution designate signes

584
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:36,480
for checks City checks resolution number

585
00:53:55,200 --> 00:54:02,480
yeah this is just memorializing as per
the motion um at the last uh the meeting

586
00:53:59,720 --> 00:54:08,160
at the fire station um reducing the rate
to the previous rate uh from or the 20

587
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:11,040
the fiscal year 2223 rate as well as
adding the macw waterer and light search

588
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:18,599
charge and system maintenance search
charge those financial impacts are there

589
00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:25,520
um and all of the items requested are in
the resolution 2020

590
00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:30,880
309 I have a question okay for Council
to make sure are you guys okay with the

591
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:36,280
verbage that says whereas members of the
city counc held of town

592
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:44,960
hall
yes my concern is that that makes it

593
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:51,000
appear that the that the group of City
councilors held it where everything was

594
00:54:47,599 --> 00:54:56,160
By Invitation of councelor Paulson and I
and I don't want to put into a

595
00:54:53,640 --> 00:55:01,520
resolution something that down the road
someone can read it that the council has

596
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:05,799
a whole held of town
hall this was the first I'm actually

597
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:11,440
okay with it it doesn't say all of the
members okay I just I wanted to respect

598
00:55:08,599 --> 00:55:15,839
those that weren't that it's it was more
for your guys's I think if someone were

599
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:20,599
to read it to be the entire Council it
would read the city council

600
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:26,920
okay
okay so I move to approve resolution

601
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:32,240
2023 d nine amending water utility rates
for the city of

602
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:36,480
Lafayette I'll second okay I have before
me um before the city council for the

603
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:40,599
city of Lafayette Oregon a resolution
amending the water utility rates for the

604
00:55:38,839 --> 00:55:45,440
city of Lafayette Oregon resolution
number

605
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:51,440
2023 d09 all in
favor all all

606
00:55:48,520 --> 00:55:55,599
opposed passage unanimously can I just
add something yes um

607
00:55:54,000 --> 00:56:00,880
I
the loan repayment fee U I'm totally in

608
00:55:59,079 --> 00:56:05,720
support of this but I I would like to
say that I don't think that it is

609
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:12,680
Equitable I think it's very necessary
but I I just don't think

610
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:16,359
it's the the lowest water user in the
city of Lafia pays the same amount as

611
00:56:14,319 --> 00:56:20,079
the highest so just you know so just
from my viewpoint because I've had this

612
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:23,599
discussion with citizens is I think that
there's ways maret this is equable or

613
00:56:22,079 --> 00:56:27,880
not and it depends on if you look at
that fee to pay for water usage or for

614
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:31,280
Debt Service and if it's Debt Service
the debt is split equally upon everybody

615
00:56:29,799 --> 00:56:35,240
if it's water usage you're still being
charged by your usage so I think there's

616
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:39,839
two ways to look at it yeah I agree with
that I think because we were it's

617
00:56:36,839 --> 00:56:44,319
important to note that it's important to
note that with our contract with W

618
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:49,760
McMinville Water and Light after the
city uses so much G so many gallons of

619
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:54,400
water the rates
increase and so that's where I think

620
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:58,920
councelor gilan is getting at it depends
on how how you're looking at this and

621
00:56:56,640 --> 00:57:04,400
really with the usage it it does come
out Fair because the costs go up for

622
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:10,920
us that the loan is there whether we
turn the pipe on or not correct go over

623
00:57:08,039 --> 00:57:16,280
certain am that water increases okay
that makes yeah I so I totally I totally

624
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:21,039
want appreciate you sharing that coming
on you know you're you're picking up the

625
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:25,960
tail end of what's not a closed topic
yeah and um I've had lots of

626
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:31,200
conversation like lead did with other
people and I think the biggest thing for

627
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:35,559
me was it is Equitable in respect that
it has nothing to do with usage right

628
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:38,520
it's infrastructure house and and people
I don't think people realize this the

629
00:57:36,839 --> 00:57:42,920
old tiers that we went back to they were
still teers yeah they just weren't as

630
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:46,720
punitive on the higher end so people are
still paying higher tiers for higher

631
00:57:44,520 --> 00:57:50,880
usage that part so the Equitable part I
think is still there for usage just on

632
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:56,799
small scale yeah well it's teared so
that's I talked to many people and they

633
00:57:53,039 --> 00:57:56,799
are a okay with this ch

634
00:57:56,960 --> 00:58:04,559
not wants no one's purposely going
yes know

635
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:16,640
thanks um Okay 12d
resolution 3-10 supplemental

636
00:58:13,359 --> 00:58:22,760
budget Brandon thank you Madame mayor so
this just similar to the resolution this

637
00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:29,160
actually shows um where we are adjusting
the uh the projected Revenue uh we also

638
00:58:25,559 --> 00:58:31,839
took out the um contingency fee we added
the water debt search charge and the

639
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:35,280
water maintenance search charge
obviously see in black in the

640
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:40,760
supplemental Budget on the fiscal year
23 24 so everything changed was going to

641
00:58:37,920 --> 00:58:46,720
be in you see the the reduction of
utility bill collections um the addition

642
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:51,440
of the water debt search charge and the
water maintenance sear charge there all

643
00:58:48,400 --> 00:59:00,200
in black and bold so this will reduce
our planned expenditures from 4.6 four

644
00:58:55,480 --> 00:59:07,160
4ish million to uh 4394
million okay um Council

645
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:11,079
discussion I just want to
encourage that we meet with the budget

646
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:15,000
committee soon I mean we need to adopt
this we need to fix the budget needs to

647
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:19,440
be fixed okay we need to adopt this but
I I think it would be prudent to call a

648
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:23,440
budget I know that historically the
budget committee meets in April I think

649
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:26,160
it would be good to meet more frequently
especially given the current Circ

650
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:31,359
that's going be coming up on the next
agenda pick a date so I would agree I

651
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:36,920
agree that this needs to get taken care
of but we can't just since I got taken

652
00:59:33,920 --> 00:59:40,119
care of just ignored again that coming I
think councelor gilan's correct like we

653
00:59:38,599 --> 00:59:49,000
need to have a meeting sooner rather
than later absolutely yeah I agree um so

654
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:54,280
council is is picking a date next month
let's

655
00:59:49,880 --> 00:59:57,799
let's I'm I'm going to uh move to adopt
resolution

656
00:59:55,960 --> 01:00:05,200
20231
second amending the water Fund in the

657
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:05,200
fiscal 2024 budget just to be

658
01:00:05,559 --> 01:00:13,640
clear I didn't hear her sorry say that
again I was just including the rest of

659
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:19,000
the language because I wanted to specify
that it's in regards to amending the

660
01:00:15,359 --> 01:00:26,400
water Fund in the fiscal 2024
budget yeah but yes okay so that was a

661
01:00:23,559 --> 01:00:30,520
second um before the city council for
the city of Lafia Oregon a resolution

662
01:00:28,359 --> 01:00:38,480
adopting a supplemental budget and
changing Appropriations for the 2023

663
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:44,359
2024 fiscal year resolution
223-10 all in

664
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:49,079
favor I all
opposed passes

665
01:00:46,599 --> 01:00:53,520
unanimously um followup from that
discussion though is there any directive

666
01:00:50,839 --> 01:00:58,720
that is next month picking a date soon
enough to set a budget meeting or do you

667
01:00:56,440 --> 01:01:02,319
guys want to try this I give you time to
figure out when we can all get together

668
01:00:59,920 --> 01:01:06,599
because then I'm gonna we don't we don't
have to set that budget meeting in a

669
01:01:04,720 --> 01:01:10,480
council meeting no can we just send you
our availability and start getting

670
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:16,440
something on the map yeah
yes Monro might I suggest when it comes

671
01:01:14,240 --> 01:01:21,319
to setting follow on meetings might I
suggest and a look at the calend

672
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:26,520
determined perhaps three times during
the year that works out for not Council

673
01:01:24,559 --> 01:01:30,920
you might want to actually meet with
them yes while

674
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:35,039
they we do meet with them we're all part
of the so so I think for now just I

675
01:01:33,359 --> 01:01:37,760
think you make a great Point pick three
pick three times yeah so I think you

676
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:41,200
make a great point I think for now we're
just trying to get it on the calendar

677
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:44,720
this year and then we'll start figuring
out what times we can meet next year

678
01:01:42,839 --> 01:01:49,079
multiple times and I think what we're
getting at is we don't need to wait till

679
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:55,079
next month for it to be on the agenda to
start sending Brandon our dates so star

680
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:58,640
them just as people availabil yeah let's
all try to send Brandon like a handful

681
01:01:56,839 --> 01:02:03,119
of dates because I'm sure if we all send
one none of them I will make I will

682
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:08,160
yield for you guys as much as possible I
know for some of you it's harder it's a

683
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:13,200
priority but yeah even if that's a
council we can pick two that we send to

684
01:02:11,480 --> 01:02:20,119
budget committee I want them there as
much as as they're even more to me part

685
01:02:16,359 --> 01:02:26,640
the budget thing okay um the last action
item is a DC

686
01:02:22,599 --> 01:02:31,400
appointment that is the
downtown

687
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:37,039
sorry my my position on this is that we

688
01:02:35,319 --> 01:02:40,960
wait until we have a full Council I
can't speak for the other counselors but

689
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:44,839
I don't have the
availability and so I think it'd be

690
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:49,440
appropriate to hold off until we get
somewh the seats filled so i' lean that

691
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:53,799
way except for I want to know how many
people are on this committee again uh we

692
01:02:51,160 --> 01:03:00,359
have five technically but while right
now we only have

693
01:02:56,480 --> 01:03:08,359
three we have a planning commissioner we
have a counselor and then we have three

694
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:12,160
at large yeah we already had an um we
just appointed Travis Johnson um we have

695
01:03:11,279 --> 01:03:17,599
Becky
sha as chair we already had an opening

696
01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:21,520
sha resigned and that's what we're
talking about that we were supposed to

697
01:03:18,839 --> 01:03:27,799
put how frequently like they have one
meeting right they do have one okay so

698
01:03:23,839 --> 01:03:32,440
here's will volunteer to
temporarily my calendar is very I was

699
01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:36,880
offer to temporar I will volunteer to
temporarily sir but once we fill the

700
01:03:34,520 --> 01:03:43,839
council I would like to revisit this and
I it's not that I don't want to just I'm

701
01:03:40,119 --> 01:03:50,720
I think it's a lot I want to I I fully
support that because I know that bud you

702
01:03:47,359 --> 01:03:56,240
are very responsible with
expenditures um if if you want to also

703
01:03:54,319 --> 01:04:00,480
also know that I am willing to
temporarily do it I'm I'm

704
01:03:58,319 --> 01:04:03,559
happy one thing in front of us for now
there might be something yeah I think

705
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:06,760
we're looking in daytime so if we want
to make it work around your schedule

706
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:10,720
since sh the councel on it I'll get with
you on some I appreciate you stepping up

707
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:14,359
to that because I know that they put on
hold a meeting they were going to have

708
01:04:12,359 --> 01:04:17,520
hoping that a counselor but I would like
to revisit this one absolutely there

709
01:04:16,279 --> 01:04:21,880
might be someone better qualified
depending on pointed let's just make

710
01:04:19,079 --> 01:04:27,680
sure we re RIS i' like in the motion to
make sure it's temporarily stated can

711
01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:32,039
can I move to temporarily appoint
councelor gilan for the downtown design

712
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:36,960
and award Review Committee for the
unexpired term ending

713
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:42,400
1230 I can just resign from that so it's
not a big deal

714
01:04:38,559 --> 01:04:46,680
I so but we will put it back
yeah would you like oh sorry we have a

715
01:04:45,079 --> 01:04:54,400
motion so I have a question follow up
for you after but um any

716
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:57,839
second I second okay I have the before
me a motion to appoint councelor

717
01:04:56,079 --> 01:05:02,799
Gilligan to the downtown design and
award Review Committee for the unexpired

718
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:07,880
term ending 1231
20125 and I got you at the second right

719
01:05:05,079 --> 01:05:14,400
before Kayla is that okay perfect okay
all in favor all

720
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:19,000
I oh okay
allst

721
01:05:16,039 --> 01:05:23,400
okay Lee quickly question for you as I'm
in interviewing candidates is it

722
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:27,200
something important enough to you that I
ask them to desire if they want to sit

723
01:05:25,279 --> 01:05:32,000
on or not or is it just something we no
I think all here we determine who the

724
01:05:29,640 --> 01:05:37,599
best service and we'll figure out I just
want to respect the fact that you I

725
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:44,039
definitely appreciate that okay um
discussion items so we're moving

726
01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:44,039
straight to B short-term rental survey

727
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:52,920
results um I am going to pause for a few
moments we'll Pretend This is a

728
01:05:53,079 --> 01:06:05,720
break did you put an in there
pause oh thank you okay so we on a break

729
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:08,440
because by time I say it it'll be out
thank you for catching that had on the

730
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:16,799
side instead of underwear normally
Reddit okay we're taing back to action

731
01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:26,200
items 12s 12f sewer rate for O A
Wu and just o a w in general so Brandon

732
01:06:24,079 --> 01:06:29,920
since we have nothing in front of us yes
so I didn't want to add this on the

733
01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:34,760
agenda because I know's meeting it was
an official vote even though it was

734
01:06:32,039 --> 01:06:38,440
under the administrator's uh expenditure
spending Authority but I think with

735
01:06:36,799 --> 01:06:42,799
everything going on and I I spoke to
every councel just about this to holding

736
01:06:40,839 --> 01:06:46,319
off on this but since it was a council
action I would like a council vote to

737
01:06:44,599 --> 01:06:50,640
hold off on that if that's where you
choose to go did you speak with Eric no

738
01:06:49,279 --> 01:06:55,240
okay I just didn't know if we needed to
update it this is this is the sewer

739
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:59,440
study by the same people yes so may I
yes okay so we had a water rate study we

740
01:06:57,839 --> 01:07:04,039
adopted the recommendations of the water
rate study I think you know what

741
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:07,599
happened yeah we had a sewer rate study
scheduled to be done by the same

742
01:07:05,480 --> 01:07:12,279
consultant I think we want to put that
on pause for now until we figure out if

743
01:07:10,079 --> 01:07:16,680
that's really who we want to use given
our recent events does that make sense

744
01:07:14,319 --> 01:07:20,039
yeah so you just need a directive right
it's not yeah I can't go above because

745
01:07:18,279 --> 01:07:24,640
you made a direction for me for for
staff so I just need another vote to we

746
01:07:22,400 --> 01:07:30,400
vote did we vote on it or was it just
I think we voted yeah January's meeting

747
01:07:27,039 --> 01:07:36,839
we should vote then okay um my question
real quick with that is there any

748
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:41,760
followup that needs to happen or part of
the plan with o awu about the original

749
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:45,319
study yes so they were going to come
back after a year yeah when when the

750
01:07:43,799 --> 01:07:49,279
when the rates were and to do another
rate rate analysis um I pretty much had

751
01:07:47,960 --> 01:07:52,400
conversations with Tim and told them
that's probably not going to be

752
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:55,599
warranted just because we didn't we
didn't enact their rates and he would

753
01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:58,200
just be doing more work and it's
probably going to come to a conclusion

754
01:07:56,760 --> 01:08:00,880
where may not be favorable to the
community because it's going to come

755
01:07:59,599 --> 01:08:04,920
back with doing the exact same thing
again so I I discussed that with Tim and

756
01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:13,359
told him it's probably not the best to
do that um so when

757
01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:19,799
we all the discussions we had was it
council's decision that we stood by

758
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:25,679
those rates we were just or the report
we just were choosing to accept it to

759
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:29,839
accept it but not use it or did we as a
council feel that it I did not stand by

760
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:34,880
the
by I didn't stand by them either I it

761
01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:40,880
was done
incorrectly did we pay for the rate

762
01:08:37,279 --> 01:08:40,880
update already

763
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:50,279
well so I hate to say this yes but it
was money that was wasted at least in

764
01:08:48,480 --> 01:08:54,799
this from what the context of what it
was so I'm not going to say it's wasted

765
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:59,120
we got got to a point where we can
service the debt we got there was just a

766
01:08:56,719 --> 01:09:02,799
very tumultuous ride so I'm not going to
say it was wasted we got where we need

767
01:09:00,359 --> 01:09:06,480
to be we probably could have just done
it differently yeah we did we did we

768
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:11,960
spent the money we ended up where we
needed to be surfacing the debt and

769
01:09:08,159 --> 01:09:17,000
everything we just
to I just wanted to find out if Council

770
01:09:14,759 --> 01:09:21,679
felt there was further discussions as
we're having the discussion to pause the

771
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:27,000
other study that needed to happen coming
out of last month

772
01:09:24,279 --> 01:09:30,640
I think I think the sewer rate study
needs to be put on hold and I think we

773
01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:36,000
need to address that in the budget
meeting okay agre

774
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:44,960
okay
so we do need to motion so I'm gonna try

775
01:09:40,239 --> 01:09:51,000
to make a motion okay I'm going to move
to

776
01:09:46,520 --> 01:09:51,000
table the sewer rate

777
01:09:51,359 --> 01:10:04,239
study I got nothing else is that it yeah
a second with O A with o thank

778
01:09:59,840 --> 01:10:09,800
you okay I have on the table a motion to
table the sewer rate study with O A

779
01:10:07,360 --> 01:10:16,880
Wu all in
favor any opposed passes unanimous okay

780
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:21,400
now we didn't pay for that rate study no
but we're actually getting ready to

781
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:24,440
start it literally when there's no money
I think it was supposed to start like

782
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:28,520
later this month yeah we were going
through data process literally the week

783
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:33,880
literally the
week

784
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:39,480
okay now on to discussion item
short-term rental survey results Brandon

785
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:46,239
thank you madam mayor so in your packet
is the uh 10 survey questions we asked

786
01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:49,560
coming out of I think it was uh May or
June's meeting about surveying the

787
01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:54,640
community to see if there's an appetite
for uh short-term rentals inside the

788
01:10:52,199 --> 01:11:01,159
city of Lafayette um we did both English
and Spanish we got

789
01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:07,800
about 125
120ish 12 um respondents via the English

790
01:11:05,159 --> 01:11:11,760
survey we had two in the Spanish survey
um so we did make it multilingual we

791
01:11:09,640 --> 01:11:17,440
promoted it throughout um the newspaper
online the app um uh at numerous Council

792
01:11:14,679 --> 01:11:22,440
meetings discussions in the community um
and in front of you are those answers um

793
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:26,840
the only open-ended questions were 10
which is why I probably would focus on

794
01:11:24,440 --> 01:11:33,040
that's where some of the um positive or
negative comments against for are going

795
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:38,320
to be there um but see I was wondering
why you combin would you support the

796
01:11:35,480 --> 01:11:43,840
city allowing and regulating use of Str
strs inside City Limits not just would

797
01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:51,920
you support the city allowing question
four yeah and then would you um want the

798
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:51,920
city to regulate as separate

799
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:57,600
questions I see why it was grouped
together though because if we're

800
01:11:55,480 --> 01:12:02,199
allowing it the city has to regulate
some of

801
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:07,239
it well we can allow we can it's allowed
right now right no regulations against

802
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:11,239
it or well we can't we we can't tell
them we can't tell them not to operate

803
01:12:08,760 --> 01:12:14,760
so I mean it's allowed but there's
nothing we can really do about it so I

804
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:19,600
guess the question's asking if we
regulate it it's in a way of allowing it

805
01:12:17,719 --> 01:12:24,679
or what we do in
general I get what you're

806
01:12:22,080 --> 01:12:29,880
saiding I think it was just the verbage
but I don't think it I there was a

807
01:12:27,159 --> 01:12:34,719
comment in here and I not about to try
to find it with all I just realized how

808
01:12:31,679 --> 01:12:34,719
small this is on

809
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:42,840
paper just my computer a lot easier to
zoom in about what it is and I'll see so

810
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:47,199
there was a comment in here about
um the difference between kind of

811
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:50,639
regulating for the sake regula or
approach the topic when there's a need

812
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:54,040
for it and I don't think there's a need
for us to do anything on this right now

813
01:12:52,239 --> 01:13:00,239
if if it becomes trouble
maybe revisit it next year but I I don't

814
01:12:57,040 --> 01:13:02,920
think there's a need a to broadcast hey
we're going to start opening this up for

815
01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:06,280
everybody there were some really
legitimate concerns about street parking

816
01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:10,840
which is already an issue in parts of
the city about how many there's going to

817
01:13:08,400 --> 01:13:15,040
be with the zoning to be like cost of
for housing all kinds of legitimate

818
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:20,480
concerns also legitimate Arguments for
but I just I don't think we're at a

819
01:13:17,840 --> 01:13:25,760
point where this needs to be acted on
okay that's Happy hear El there's a few

820
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:28,880
that talk about it but I think you're
talking about regulations are easier to

821
01:13:27,320 --> 01:13:33,960
add later when something becomes an
issue yeah regulating controlling

822
01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:36,920
without just cause can do more harm than
good yeah there's there's a couple

823
01:13:35,239 --> 01:13:40,000
comments in there but yeah I mean I just
I don't think this something that like

824
01:13:38,360 --> 01:13:45,560
we really need to take care of this
right now and I think it would be easier

825
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:48,320
to tackle this if it blossoms as
something that's like okay this is this

826
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:51,639
is something we need to take care of
because if we just proactively put

827
01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:55,400
something in place and a year later we
find out if we knew this was coming

828
01:13:53,400 --> 01:14:00,440
would have done this differently I just
I don't think it makes a lot of sense to

829
01:13:56,719 --> 01:14:04,960
act on at this point in time that's but
I do think we should continue to revisit

830
01:14:02,239 --> 01:14:10,120
it as the circumstances Chang I
appreciate that this survey was done um

831
01:14:08,159 --> 01:14:15,760
it because of the statements that people
gave or the way people answered

832
01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:20,560
questions it showed a little bit of a
not a pattern but like you were

833
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:26,159
mentioning the over regulating for the
sake of regulating the parking um but I

834
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:31,719
think that that all leads to that like
Council gilo was saying that we don't

835
01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:37,360
need to do anything right now and
actually just tells us that we don't

836
01:14:33,719 --> 01:14:39,920
need I also and I know there was some I
just want to reiterate because I think

837
01:14:38,600 --> 01:14:44,480
everybody on this council is pretty
committed to making sure Third Street

838
01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:48,159
continues to progress there was some
talk in here about adding to the

839
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:54,120
businesses and tan on I I get the
argument but Airbnb is a wine country I

840
01:14:51,600 --> 01:14:58,040
don't think lafet the plan stop yet yet
I think people are adding to dunde and

841
01:14:56,120 --> 01:15:01,639
Carlton and McMinville and eventually we
might get there I just don't think we're

842
01:14:59,480 --> 01:15:06,159
there right now yeah and I get that
regulating it we could get a little bit

843
01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:11,679
of income from it from you know the
hotel taxing or whatever but um as one

844
01:15:09,400 --> 01:15:17,000
comment has stated like just because you
can doesn't mean you should you should

845
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:22,199
after the atmosphere of the last meeting
more regulation doesn't seem like really

846
01:15:20,440 --> 01:15:27,760
it's
current sorry no I appreciate you I

847
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:35,239
would I would sit down and say just as a
person out the community that not

848
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:40,960
regulating right now gives you
flexibility because if problems arise

849
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:46,679
then you can tailor the regulation to
the need as opposed to going out I'm

850
01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:50,880
doing oh we're going to do these 14
different regulations and everybody's

851
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:55,880
going I don't want that but if you have
a problem and you have a tailored

852
01:15:52,880 --> 01:16:00,960
solution ution then all of a sudden wait
a minute that kind of you know the

853
01:15:59,480 --> 01:16:06,600
solution all of a sudden BEC more
powerful and more likely to be both

854
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:10,480
accepted and wanted yes try to have the
best of both I think this is gray that

855
01:16:08,960 --> 01:16:15,360
brought it to the surface for us to
remember to be acutely aware of it so

856
01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:21,280
that you know but that right now there's
not a and thanks for doing that survey I

857
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:25,480
if if we do revisit it later I would
love to see more people respond I know

858
01:16:23,719 --> 01:16:29,920
you can't force people to respond I will
actually say this is a great survey

859
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:35,080
we've done surveys in the past and this
is actually pretty good turnout for us

860
01:16:32,280 --> 01:16:35,080
yeah

861
01:16:35,239 --> 01:16:43,520
yeah I have a question yeah yes do you
think that it's possible that because

862
01:16:41,440 --> 01:16:50,440
we're not regulating it we haven't seen
interest in it

863
01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:53,280
yes okay so I it's my position I think
that this is a discussion that

864
01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:57,480
definitely should be continuing should
be exploring that and I agree with the

865
01:16:55,600 --> 01:17:00,480
results from this study such as the
parking issue but those are things that

866
01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:04,560
we could start
exploring and trying to bring that stuff

867
01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:10,360
into Lafayette because it's going to
help Lafayette

868
01:17:06,480 --> 01:17:16,440
grow so you're you're saying that you
can see there's ways that if we do it

869
01:17:12,719 --> 01:17:21,239
correctly very Loosely regulating or POS
that we can

870
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:25,719
actually start advertising the positive
parts of it without squashing the Nega

871
01:17:23,440 --> 01:17:32,360
stuff I I just think there's a lot of
people here who don't want it here based

872
01:17:28,760 --> 01:17:35,440
on Country based I get I get that and I
think that tourists would love it here

873
01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:40,159
but I think that there's a lot of people
who live here who don't want strangers

874
01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:45,280
coming in and out of the house next door
every day I I think there's people here

875
01:17:42,280 --> 01:17:48,679
who don't want extra cars who are
unfamiliar with the roads that are

876
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:52,600
already a little dangerous out here
after whatever they were doing or how

877
01:17:50,360 --> 01:17:56,000
hard it is to find homes that are I also
don't think that we should be regulating

878
01:17:54,440 --> 01:17:59,800
what a homeowner does with their house
if they want to rent it out on Airbnb

879
01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:03,000
that should be their choice and I agree
with that and I think people already are

880
01:18:01,080 --> 01:18:08,360
in I think if anybody jumped on Airbnb
right now You' probably find a couple of

881
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:12,920
off yet four but but my my I think my
biggest issue which I don't think I've

882
01:18:09,560 --> 01:18:16,679
stated yet is that our law enforcement
presence here is a very limited hour so

883
01:18:15,159 --> 01:18:21,000
stuff that comes up with parking with
noise complaints with anything that

884
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:27,560
could come with this territory we're not
really properly prepared or whatever

885
01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:32,239
those unknowns are uh until we have a
little bit better and better is the

886
01:18:29,679 --> 01:18:38,000
wrong word our law enforcement folks are
fantastic they're just not here all the

887
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:38,000
time we pay for a limited

888
01:18:38,440 --> 01:18:46,600
out SC that there's been actually actual
complaints about there being things

889
01:18:43,840 --> 01:18:50,800
being up in town or or I mean are there
concerns have been brought forward that

890
01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:55,679
that brought all this
yes like we received a phone call which

891
01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:59,760
kind of initiated the process and then I
started doing some uh surveying with my

892
01:18:57,719 --> 01:19:02,800
peers across the state and the processes
and I started talking to the our planner

893
01:19:01,639 --> 01:19:06,199
and then I brought it up a few months
ago and it was like well let's see if

894
01:19:03,920 --> 01:19:11,480
there's an appetite for it um but the
hardest part is enforcing something

895
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:15,199
because we pretty much have to bait and
switch Somebody by ordering on Airbnb

896
01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:18,800
and yeah it's a whole issue so so to
find common ground because I know

897
01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:21,719
Council disagrees a little bit here to
find Comm ground I do think this is

898
01:19:20,159 --> 01:19:27,440
something we should revisit I'm not
saying lock it up throw away the key I

899
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:31,760
just don't think the time is proper for
to act on at this

900
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:37,920
moment before we give the official
directive my final

901
01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:42,400
comment is that right now there's no
regulation so if a airbnbs are operating

902
01:19:40,840 --> 01:19:48,360
and they likely
are do you if you don't see a problem at

903
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:54,560
this point then doing nothing is not
going to harm anything right uh to

904
01:19:51,080 --> 01:20:00,560
Brandon's comment a caller com com in be
careful of not letting the Tail Wag the

905
01:19:57,000 --> 01:20:05,960
Dog and then lastly the issue of parking
and parking issues if they exist in the

906
01:20:03,040 --> 01:20:12,480
city you would have a vehicle to address
and look into that

907
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:17,400
issue separately from Airbnb situation
and you use that as your model to start

908
01:20:15,440 --> 01:20:21,560
guiding something that might be done in
regulation that could very easily be

909
01:20:19,719 --> 01:20:27,760
something that could be ultimately
adopted or extended to Airbnb in the

910
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:34,159
future when it's necessary so in the
meantime in the present you do nothing

911
01:20:31,280 --> 01:20:38,760
you keep a radar on it send a survey out
in six months a year something like that

912
01:20:36,520 --> 01:20:45,440
listen to what citizens you know if
comments come in if complaints come in

913
01:20:42,040 --> 01:20:49,840
for against make note of that uh look at
the parking situation where is it a

914
01:20:47,639 --> 01:20:54,520
problem how do you go about creating a
parking enforcement uh model that will

915
01:20:52,520 --> 01:21:00,520
work work for what's going on in the
city right now

916
01:20:57,360 --> 01:21:07,159
then do something down the
road yeah

917
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:12,280
okay I I agree with that I just said but
if you're kicking something down the

918
01:21:08,679 --> 01:21:18,920
road and a problem occurs where my house
is surrounded by four airbnbs and we

919
01:21:15,679 --> 01:21:23,800
decide and the city decides to regulate
and only allow every other house or

920
01:21:21,480 --> 01:21:27,159
every fifth house or a certain amount on
the street Who you gonna tell no to when

921
01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:31,400
there's no
regulations registrations you don't even

922
01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:35,880
know where they're at you'd likely have
like a permanent application process or

923
01:21:33,639 --> 01:21:40,639
something like that to know where
they're at and have a permanent

924
01:21:37,239 --> 01:21:44,600
application and then if they're all
permitted if they're all permitted right

925
01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:50,199
you on how
many there is a possibility of a problem

926
01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:57,280
occurring you're going to have to come
up or the cil's GNA have to come up tell

927
01:21:53,000 --> 01:22:03,000
somebody you can't be innb anymore
sure so I'm hearing there's nothing

928
01:22:00,480 --> 01:22:06,560
immediate uh that the survey brought
forth that going oh my goodness we've

929
01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:11,960
got this problem and we need to start
raing land but I do hear different D

930
01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:15,679
points from Council and citizens that
don't just kick it down the be like oh

931
01:22:13,320 --> 01:22:22,760
we'll address it later um Council
Paulson is there a time frame that to

932
01:22:19,639 --> 01:22:27,199
you is acceptable to put this back on
the agenda for me personally I think at

933
01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:31,679
least until we fill or decide what to do
with the vacant

934
01:22:28,679 --> 01:22:37,719
seats I would say within the next three
to six months and directing asking

935
01:22:34,239 --> 01:22:41,600
Brandon to look into some possible white
regulations I'm not saying that we have

936
01:22:39,639 --> 01:22:44,760
to go fully out and regulating but I
think that there should be something in

937
01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:49,280
place one to address if there's issues
that arise in the moment not a month or

938
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:52,760
two later down the road once we can
address it after it's been brought to

939
01:22:50,840 --> 01:22:59,760
our attention but two also to start
advertising this essentially to see if

940
01:22:56,080 --> 01:23:02,040
it brings in to help the city okay maybe
before

941
01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:10,520
Summer Okay is Council okay with putting
it on in the beginning middle of the I

942
01:23:08,199 --> 01:23:15,719
mean I think anytime we look at the
calendar we keep going I'll put it on

943
01:23:12,639 --> 01:23:20,880
June is that I would preer hear me out
out everybody I would prer like February

944
01:23:18,480 --> 01:23:27,120
yes and here's why if we start this
process in June and November there are

945
01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:30,840
six total seats for election year we
start it's just going to have to start

946
01:23:28,480 --> 01:23:35,480
over with the new Council me following
that and that's not productive for any

947
01:23:32,199 --> 01:23:39,639
place no okay so can we revisit this in
February whether it's a discussion or

948
01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:45,600
action depending on I'll put it back as
a discussion on in February and uh we'll

949
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:52,199
go from there I'll try to get some uh
celer Paulson are you um okay if I ask

950
01:23:49,080 --> 01:23:57,719
you to think to yourself what some
specific specific things that you might

951
01:23:54,840 --> 01:24:03,920
that jumped out at you yep and I'll be
in conversation with Brandon

952
01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:08,199
yeah I would really like to get some
information on communities who have done

953
01:24:05,719 --> 01:24:12,199
this successfully who have a huge Airbnb
presence like Lincoln City Dundee see

954
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:16,560
how they've done
dundy first and then and then I I want

955
01:24:15,000 --> 01:24:20,120
to be really clear on like what time
what different kinds of short-term

956
01:24:17,960 --> 01:24:23,360
rentals are there and how they will be
regulated differently or separately

957
01:24:21,560 --> 01:24:27,400
because a house renting rooms is very
different than a house being rented so

958
01:24:25,840 --> 01:24:32,360
just making sure that we're really clear
on how we Define them and look at some

959
01:24:30,199 --> 01:24:36,560
models that that that are working so
we're not just kind of inventing a

960
01:24:34,040 --> 01:24:43,040
regulation so I guess for all Council
anyone that feels compelled

961
01:24:39,239 --> 01:24:50,760
to um give any kind of prompts to um
Brandon on how to bring this back let's

962
01:24:45,480 --> 01:24:56,560
address it in February and go from there
okay um on the department reports code

963
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:56,560
enforcement

964
01:24:56,719 --> 01:25:02,760
reports so I was GNA ask I know I think
I brought this up a few months ago it

965
01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:08,080
seems like we're going to more high
level reporting on fire and public works

966
01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:11,920
this is kind of kind of down to
nitty-gritty I mean I think there's

967
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:16,320
things that we can convey on a high
level report but if if you just want to

968
01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:18,679
see the cases I'm okay with that but I
don't know because I mean there's a lot

969
01:25:17,239 --> 01:25:23,320
of things that Robert does I think I
think leave it until we have that

970
01:25:20,040 --> 01:25:27,639
discussion okay gotcha thank you I'd
hate to change it and then have a

971
01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:34,360
discussion that
then um okay um

972
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:41,320
Administration uh outside of that in
your uh in the packet you do see one uh

973
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:47,159
one resident concern um on the uh
comment card can we make sure that their

974
01:25:43,639 --> 01:25:50,679
name is and address is blacked out next
time

975
01:25:48,360 --> 01:25:56,280
okay right I mean I'm not too worri
about the name but they were the way

976
01:25:54,600 --> 01:26:02,320
these comment cards are is they're
supposed to It's supposed to kind of

977
01:25:58,320 --> 01:26:06,159
detach from their bill but we
inadvertently just posted someone's

978
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:16,159
bill but I appreciate that but that was
the last thing that was completely on I

979
01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:21,960
apologize for
that and then um also there's the water

980
01:26:18,719 --> 01:26:27,800
meter bilding update um mentioned the
the 80 leak checks we door hanger

981
01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:31,880
Consolidated Supply mu have been on site
numerous times um the one that I

982
01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:35,360
mentioned a few a little while ago
myself and counselor gilan I have got

983
01:26:33,920 --> 01:26:39,159
some emails about I'm continue to work
with that um I'm going to try to do a

984
01:26:37,119 --> 01:26:42,480
couple more things next week with with
Mueller and Consolidated uh before

985
01:26:41,159 --> 01:26:48,080
reaching out to that
Resident um City staff will be doing

986
01:26:45,440 --> 01:26:51,880
random housing uh sampling assignments
the third week of October so our our

987
01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:55,719
next Public Works our newest Public
Works employee starts next week I've

988
01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:58,800
already gotten with Chad and the team
that we're going to start picking some

989
01:26:56,760 --> 01:27:03,800
addresses and start calling them next
week to kind of set those up for

990
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:08,320
November and then all August bills are
mentally credited as per Council

991
01:27:05,600 --> 01:27:13,719
direction from the 9:14 meeting uh the
disconnections will resume by November

992
01:27:10,840 --> 01:27:19,560
so uh what is that November the week of
November 7th so

993
01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:24,080
that the 9th is a Thursday that's when
the 48 hour notices well the 48 hour

994
01:27:21,679 --> 01:27:28,080
notices will go out on Tuesday the 7th
and then the 9th we'll start doing the

995
01:27:26,159 --> 01:27:33,840
disconnections um there's been a lot of
people um inquiring about previous debts

996
01:27:32,119 --> 01:27:37,520
we didn't want to just start singling
out a debt from August or whatnot or

997
01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:40,199
from July so we just put everybody it
wasn't just this one bill because it was

998
01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:44,320
going to be a lot cleaner so there are
some people who are even benefiting from

999
01:27:42,040 --> 01:27:48,080
those shut offs from preceding bills but
we want to make sure they get cut off

1000
01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:55,760
because obviously um that that becomes a
financial burden to those who um for

1001
01:27:51,119 --> 01:28:02,360
those include that notice in in this
month's bills I'm sorry can you include

1002
01:27:59,679 --> 01:28:09,119
this notice like in the newsletter we
can okay and for those of you I can't I

1003
01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:14,719
can't remember where the discussion of
putting the a water report if it was

1004
01:28:13,119 --> 01:28:21,040
during our council meeting or a
conversation um I had with Brandon

1005
01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:25,960
but I specifically wanted to see
something monthly that we could separate

1006
01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:30,679
and track where we're going with it so
that we can easily find it so that's why

1007
01:28:29,159 --> 01:28:36,320
some of this might sound redundant that
was sorry when you say where we're going

1008
01:28:33,880 --> 01:28:43,920
with Itor give me a little more clarity
yes so when we came out of last month's

1009
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:46,840
council meeting it wasn't just a okay we
changed it here's our resolution that we

1010
01:28:45,400 --> 01:28:52,600
just adopted that there were some other
concerns that came up and so this is

1011
01:28:49,760 --> 01:29:00,440
holding accountable to the change out in
the meters to addressing um leaks the

1012
01:28:56,840 --> 01:29:06,239
directive of doing those quadrant checks
so um

1013
01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:12,000
this report is monthly and a little
redundant but it's so that it's very

1014
01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:18,719
black and white and a tool for us as a
council to use to say this is how we're

1015
01:29:14,360 --> 01:29:23,880
holding C defense not be happen
yeah and this is the first time this has

1016
01:29:21,040 --> 01:29:28,920
been brought up with of council okay I
could

1017
01:29:25,400 --> 01:29:28,920
remember brought it up to

1018
01:29:29,520 --> 01:29:39,880
me yes so with h the cut offs and stuff
that you're talking about is there a way

1019
01:29:35,560 --> 01:29:45,080
to put into an investigation like my I
live at 120 uh West 19th Street my

1020
01:29:43,239 --> 01:29:54,320
consumption has been inaccurate for a
year like the whole winter time my

1021
01:29:48,520 --> 01:29:59,600
consumption was 400 300 6 00 400
400,00 no sprinklers nothing that's

1022
01:29:57,400 --> 01:30:06,320
that's very inconsistent then it went to
26 to 28 to 43 I put my sprinklers back

1023
01:30:03,040 --> 01:30:10,040
on and I just had a bill of, 1500 so
there's something wrong I know you sent

1024
01:30:07,920 --> 01:30:15,400
me the reports yeah I don't want to call
out my name but that's what but I I I

1025
01:30:13,639 --> 01:30:19,400
don't want to P A bill I still have a
Bill of a $300 water bill after the

1026
01:30:17,239 --> 01:30:24,800
rates are changed which is insane my
water bill is $100 every month up until

1027
01:30:22,600 --> 01:30:30,119
the one that was just changed so I paid
the water bill that was due the one that

1028
01:30:27,080 --> 01:30:33,719
was the most recent one but I I find
something definitely wrong and I don't

1029
01:30:32,440 --> 01:30:37,040
want to have a water cut off to our
house but I'm not paying a $300 water

1030
01:30:35,199 --> 01:30:43,920
bill so what I hear you saying is is do
we have what's the process for somebody

1031
01:30:39,719 --> 01:30:47,960
who there's no consistency is um
disputing their bill right and I

1032
01:30:46,440 --> 01:30:51,960
probably should have I I didn't know you
know the water rates were low what they

1033
01:30:49,520 --> 01:30:55,040
were beforehand I Pro you know had I
paying attention and seeing it I would

1034
01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:59,960
have brought this up much sooner when it
went from 400 to 1200 or 300 to 600 in

1035
01:30:58,360 --> 01:31:03,679
the middle of winter I didn't know you
could have a consumption low I thought

1036
01:31:01,760 --> 01:31:09,760
the minimum was 400 anyway so I don't
know how that showed up like that on our

1037
01:31:06,280 --> 01:31:14,639
so we're sorry I
wase

1038
01:31:11,639 --> 01:31:19,639
yeah
IA connect we're still working you're

1039
01:31:18,600 --> 01:31:24,440
not I don't want to single you out or
anything come here me know you're like

1040
01:31:22,239 --> 01:31:28,600
the onee you're like the one case
Brandon I are still scratching trying to

1041
01:31:27,159 --> 01:31:32,679
there's no consistency and I know
there's other people in our community I

1042
01:31:30,320 --> 01:31:35,760
live in the newer Community the he and I
live on 16th I mean there's other people

1043
01:31:34,560 --> 01:31:40,199
that are in the same boat but they're
not as proactive I could say you know I

1044
01:31:38,159 --> 01:31:43,719
tell them like want help you have to
reach out you want to do something but

1045
01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:49,520
there's a lot of people within our
community that that consumption and the

1046
01:31:46,520 --> 01:31:53,560
rate increase was all the same month and
everybody had Drop Like if I go through

1047
01:31:51,040 --> 01:31:56,920
the communter probably I wanted to get
hit like I don't know what to do but

1048
01:31:55,520 --> 01:32:00,600
everyone's consumption went back to the
way it was for him and they didn't turn

1049
01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:06,639
their sprinkles off they didn't change
it now they're off because it's raining

1050
01:32:04,119 --> 01:32:12,760
time no we'll get together I do more
research um I can't wave you to I cannot

1051
01:32:10,440 --> 01:32:17,400
tell you to not pay your bill right um
any type of any type of wavers have to

1052
01:32:15,480 --> 01:32:20,840
come from the city council I would still
pay it and if something were to come up

1053
01:32:19,280 --> 01:32:25,280
out of it then that's a discussion that
we would have on we buy something our

1054
01:32:23,199 --> 01:32:29,480
Brandon is that something where he
should be coming before councel right

1055
01:32:26,960 --> 01:32:34,239
now saying I'm disputing my bill he can
but at this current moment I haven't

1056
01:32:31,840 --> 01:32:38,440
found anything yet that could support
that it was a city item I I stilled to

1057
01:32:36,280 --> 01:32:42,360
do more research on that so I'll let you
guys do what you're doing and then two

1058
01:32:40,360 --> 01:32:46,040
I'll work with you guys I don't want to
pay that and we even got that meter I we

1059
01:32:44,119 --> 01:32:50,280
even got this the meter like calibrate
we did like we figed everybody else out

1060
01:32:48,960 --> 01:32:53,840
you're the one that still this weird
anomaly we did find one that had a

1061
01:32:51,920 --> 01:32:57,639
reverse meter put in that was put in by
our contractor by accident so was a

1062
01:32:55,600 --> 01:33:00,679
revers read um so that one was like oh
that was completely on our fault so

1063
01:32:59,159 --> 01:33:06,639
we're finding things here's here's the
last one to crack and it's hard no

1064
01:33:03,960 --> 01:33:11,159
consist and I'm gonna not single you out
in a bad way but it's easy for us to say

1065
01:33:09,480 --> 01:33:16,000
okay you guys get you get you already
that but I want to acknowledge that

1066
01:33:13,560 --> 01:33:22,280
there might be somebody listening to
this going what about me right I just

1067
01:33:18,440 --> 01:33:27,480
haven't broke up so the if someone is
still disputing the bill they do need to

1068
01:33:24,440 --> 01:33:33,280
speak up in I'll advise my two neighbors
that are talking constantly that have

1069
01:33:28,920 --> 01:33:37,280
like a 6100 yeah went down to 1500 15200
then went back to a 1500 and they didn't

1070
01:33:35,000 --> 01:33:42,400
change it for what it's worth we're
activeon and I talked on the phone

1071
01:33:40,440 --> 01:33:46,520
yesterday well I know you're responsive
too so I know that yeah it's not gonna

1072
01:33:44,320 --> 01:33:50,800
get well I I want to acknowledge I do
appreciate Michael from the first day

1073
01:33:49,000 --> 01:33:56,560
you've been communicative with me and
sharing you've even done some research

1074
01:33:53,639 --> 01:34:01,639
you know s um so I want to acknowledge
that the reason we're saying oh we'll

1075
01:33:58,280 --> 01:34:07,679
get with you is because you did the
added effort to come to Brandon and

1076
01:34:04,719 --> 01:34:12,040
Council but if anyone else is having
issues they can't just go well once they

1077
01:34:09,679 --> 01:34:15,119
fix his they'll fix mine each person
needs they shouldn't put that on you and

1078
01:34:14,159 --> 01:34:19,480
we're
not email yeah I think easy going guy I

1079
01:34:18,719 --> 01:34:24,800
may
not I'm just saying it's not appropriate

1080
01:34:22,320 --> 01:34:30,159
neighbor to neighbor that let any
neighbor speak on your

1081
01:34:26,520 --> 01:34:34,320
behal have directly you make it official
writing

1082
01:34:32,480 --> 01:34:39,760
W
okay so that's where the water meter

1083
01:34:38,199 --> 01:34:44,320
update came and it might be where
there's not much going on one month but

1084
01:34:41,760 --> 01:34:51,639
I asked Brandon and I believe um Council
Fon was part of this conversation to add

1085
01:34:47,400 --> 01:34:55,199
it so that we can easily track sometimes
no you know no information still

1086
01:34:53,280 --> 01:34:59,920
information while we go through this it
just holds us all accountable that we

1087
01:34:56,520 --> 01:35:03,880
haven't swept it aside and lastly um as
part of the administrator report um some

1088
01:35:02,040 --> 01:35:07,880
some of more some new constructions
going on in metal Brook you may see I

1089
01:35:05,199 --> 01:35:12,159
think we have uh four or five uh
foundations down over there so we're

1090
01:35:09,679 --> 01:35:16,000
going to start bu out next month I'm
going to be coming up talking about the

1091
01:35:13,760 --> 01:35:22,000
state's e- permitting system and some
Community Development updates um we did

1092
01:35:18,880 --> 01:35:25,239
get the manhole cleanouts um done I know
the budget committee and the city

1093
01:35:23,320 --> 01:35:30,719
council approved uh
$50,000 uh and uh eight we got seven

1094
01:35:28,280 --> 01:35:34,560
done for like $20,000 um over the past
few months and those were at seventh eth

1095
01:35:32,400 --> 01:35:39,119
in Lincoln and dunway and then we had
9th 11th at Grant so we had seven done

1096
01:35:37,159 --> 01:35:44,760
oh and then we had Maro Maro in 16th and
Wilson in 12th so yes I saw that I think

1097
01:35:42,159 --> 01:35:49,119
so we got seven done um for Less M than
we thought so we're happy about that and

1098
01:35:47,360 --> 01:35:52,920
then as I mentioned to you all last week
I'm going to be working with council

1099
01:35:50,360 --> 01:35:59,199
president pulson to meet with M Wilder
and light from January of 2022 to

1100
01:35:55,920 --> 01:36:02,920
September of 2023 there was um a
mechanism in one of their low or high

1101
01:36:01,000 --> 01:36:06,880
flow meters that wasn't registering
consumption properly no figure and now

1102
01:36:05,280 --> 01:36:10,400
so we have a $20,000 bill that we have
to pay and I mentioned to them well if

1103
01:36:08,920 --> 01:36:13,760
we had a mess up on our end we wouldn't
charge a resident that and their

1104
01:36:12,199 --> 01:36:17,400
building policies that states the
customer responsible for or billing

1105
01:36:15,760 --> 01:36:20,920
practices so I'm going to be working
with council president bson and one of

1106
01:36:19,000 --> 01:36:24,679
their board members hopefully maybe we
can get this down to a manageable dollar

1107
01:36:22,920 --> 01:36:28,639
amount because looking at the numbers it
be very tight to you get this taken care

1108
01:36:26,800 --> 01:36:33,159
of so I'll update you all that hopefully
the next council

1109
01:36:29,639 --> 01:36:38,560
meeting okay thank you thank you um
committee reports there was no committee

1110
01:36:35,880 --> 01:36:43,199
meeting right that anyone sat on um
Council

1111
01:36:39,920 --> 01:36:47,000
reports um I submitted my mayor report
um one thing I wanted to touch on real

1112
01:36:45,320 --> 01:36:52,880
quick because we decided not to put as
an action item

1113
01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:57,679
um speaking of money and being very you
know are we spending when we don't need

1114
01:36:54,880 --> 01:37:03,639
to spend one of the things that was
discussed this past month was Christmas

1115
01:37:00,239 --> 01:37:11,600
time in the city um and that $155,000
was spent last year on lighting up the

1116
01:37:06,960 --> 01:37:16,560
City entries um and because of that um
elcat

1117
01:37:13,080 --> 01:37:21,600
LDA um the PTA everyone's all the groups
are coming together to try to see what

1118
01:37:19,040 --> 01:37:27,199
we can do to cut costs do things in
house one of the things that I'm working

1119
01:37:24,000 --> 01:37:32,560
on is using resources we already have
which is the residents and their

1120
01:37:28,920 --> 01:37:36,800
beautiful decorations so um working in
Tangent with as an a suggestion from

1121
01:37:34,360 --> 01:37:42,119
Brandon lafayette's going to have a
Christmas decorating contest originally

1122
01:37:39,679 --> 01:37:46,679
he had suggested to put it on so that
council could pick a maybe give a credit

1123
01:37:44,719 --> 01:37:49,880
on the water bill or whatnot and I said
that that I didn't support that because

1124
01:37:48,599 --> 01:37:53,920
that just looks like we have extra money
in the water bill um so we will do some

1125
01:37:52,639 --> 01:38:00,159
sort of
small non denominational or non-monetary

1126
01:38:00,360 --> 01:38:08,920
prize I was just about to say um Dollar
General's on my list although I know

1127
01:38:05,560 --> 01:38:13,040
that that manager it's out of his pocket
but I would like to ask councel if you

1128
01:38:10,679 --> 01:38:19,119
want to be a judge we can't participate
in it so it'd be a fun way um so and any

1129
01:38:17,199 --> 01:38:23,800
other ways that anyone in the city wants
to brainstorm how we can I think the

1130
01:38:21,440 --> 01:38:28,520
this year Christmas and celebrating what
we have as a small community as is more

1131
01:38:26,040 --> 01:38:35,040
important than ever without spending the
$115,000

1132
01:38:30,080 --> 01:38:39,960
on professional lighting um but that is
so a decorating contest will be

1133
01:38:37,639 --> 01:38:45,159
happening um but if Council wants to
participate you can join me if not I

1134
01:38:42,320 --> 01:38:51,400
will find other judges and we'll work
but it's just going to be good old Quay

1135
01:38:48,400 --> 01:38:56,880
fun is this each tree in the park the
15,000 no so the contest will be your

1136
01:38:54,400 --> 01:39:00,760
your yard like your own personal okay so
there's like three categories like

1137
01:38:58,920 --> 01:39:04,159
Griswald which is the most you know a
lighting one y oh Chris I forget what

1138
01:39:02,920 --> 01:39:08,400
the three categories were sorry I don't
have time so anyway I could ramble on

1139
01:39:06,239 --> 01:39:14,599
all night because I love Christmas but
it's us using very minimal money to

1140
01:39:11,960 --> 01:39:18,599
encourage everyone else to do it um
other groups are one of the things that

1141
01:39:16,159 --> 01:39:23,560
we've decided is to invite people to
hang a water or weather appropriate

1142
01:39:21,840 --> 01:39:27,080
ornament on the Christmas tree that goes
in the

1143
01:39:24,520 --> 01:39:30,679
Gazo you know put your family name on it
if you want if it's a big Bell plastic

1144
01:39:28,840 --> 01:39:34,480
Bell from Dollar Tre whatnot be things
that are going to come rolling out Chief

1145
01:39:32,520 --> 01:39:40,760
already mentioned that he's working with
his crew I did want to support and let

1146
01:39:37,239 --> 01:39:45,520
you guys know that I acknowledged and so
did the rest of the group that the fire

1147
01:39:43,760 --> 01:39:51,520
department put together that parade
during Co and wanted to make sure

1148
01:39:48,560 --> 01:39:55,840
that if they wanted to do it to to do it
if not we will'll support something else

1149
01:39:53,199 --> 01:40:01,560
but I just wanted in my report to share
about the decorating

1150
01:39:57,560 --> 01:40:06,480
contest and that I am committed to
making sure that we're not frivolously

1151
01:40:03,920 --> 01:40:09,920
spending for Christmas so just email you
if I'll send I'll send out the

1152
01:40:08,480 --> 01:40:12,080
information to you guys I didn't have
anything because I thought we were going

1153
01:40:10,880 --> 01:40:15,880
to present it to you guys because I was
going to need council's approval to pick

1154
01:40:13,880 --> 01:40:20,360
a prize but we're going to try to make
it a donation and I was against the idea

1155
01:40:18,480 --> 01:40:25,040
of a water bill credit because that's
just

1156
01:40:22,080 --> 01:40:29,199
touch subject yeah like that just yeah
like I get that's an easy way to you

1157
01:40:26,440 --> 01:40:32,800
know get money in Pockets but anyway so
I'm

1158
01:40:29,920 --> 01:40:38,280
rambling so yeah um so I'm ready for a
motion tojin if somebody wants toj um I

1159
01:40:35,040 --> 01:40:44,679
just want to make it quick mention the
laate Downtown Association is holding a

1160
01:40:41,840 --> 01:40:50,280
community Workshop this upcoming
Wednesday October 18th at the community

1161
01:40:47,599 --> 01:40:55,400
center beginning at 5:30 p.m. which is
open to the public and we encourage

1162
01:40:52,480 --> 01:41:04,040
citizens to come over and be part of
that yes and El is hosting our Harvest

1163
01:41:00,599 --> 01:41:08,639
Festival Saturday I encourage Council
to even if you don't have kiddos to come

1164
01:41:07,159 --> 01:41:16,320
say hi we'll be there with the table the
city will be there with the table Time 1

1165
01:41:11,639 --> 01:41:22,119
to four why contest I'll be back up from
I get to be a judge you want us to

1166
01:41:19,119 --> 01:41:28,159
Christmas decorations but I'm fine
supp I was asked to judge suppli you can

1167
01:41:25,599 --> 01:41:35,159
link the decorations if you want but
anyway um so yeah I'm I'm excited that

1168
01:41:32,719 --> 01:41:39,760
commun CER yeah so there's indoor and
outdoor but ELC cats not going all out

1169
01:41:38,360 --> 01:41:45,400
but they're going all out and I'm
excited to be back and I guess before we

1170
01:41:42,400 --> 01:41:48,440
go to German I appreciate the meeing
tonight and I'm enjoying my time down at

1171
01:41:47,360 --> 01:41:53,639
the LCC
conference share with you guys about

1172
01:41:51,320 --> 01:41:58,320
yeah did did the chief say when the Fill
the Boot is gonna it's beginning of next

1173
01:41:58,599 --> 01:42:04,960
year yeah it's one of the I I talked to
some of them so I do know that it's

1174
01:42:03,800 --> 01:42:08,560
something that they can schedule
whenever they want there's some online

1175
01:42:06,520 --> 01:42:13,360
stuff that would be like a Christmas
time thing well not the right time of

1176
01:42:11,679 --> 01:42:17,880
year they're already working on the toy
drive and talking about how stuff so

1177
01:42:15,760 --> 01:42:25,360
anyway um be supportive of our fire
department and all right

1178
01:42:21,880 --> 01:42:25,360
so I move to

1179
01:42:25,400 --> 01:42:28,920
adjourn okay all in

1180
01:42:37,320 --> 01:42:40,440
favor yeah