1 00:00:07,950 --> 00:00:20,970 Everybody ready? We are right. Okay. All right. I'd like to call this regular city council meeting to order. Today is May 12th. 2 00:00:24,810 --> 00:00:32,950 All right. I'm seeing that we have one council member with us tonight. Would you like to give us the pleasure of leaving us in the pledge of allegiance to Councilman's edict? 3 00:00:59,570 --> 00:01:07,210 We're getting better at that with the chorus, I know, in the background, all right, great, could we have roll call please? 4 00:01:09,710 --> 00:01:11,870 We have an invocation tonight. 5 00:01:12,550 --> 00:01:12,930 Is that something? 6 00:01:13,850 --> 00:01:14,830 It's on the agenda. 7 00:01:15,610 --> 00:01:17,310 It should not. 8 00:01:23,300 --> 00:01:26,360 It wasn't aware that it was on the agenda tonight, 9 00:01:26,460 --> 00:01:30,200 and that something that wasn't prepared for, 10 00:01:31,460 --> 00:01:32,760 but I'll go ahead and I'll lead us. 11 00:01:32,900 --> 00:01:33,900 Would you like to lead us down? 12 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:35,360 All right. 13 00:01:38,140 --> 00:01:38,380 All right. 14 00:01:38,500 --> 00:01:41,620 Dear Lord, I just pray that you give us wisdom 15 00:01:41,620 --> 00:01:44,920 as elected leaders to make wise decisions. 16 00:01:46,740 --> 00:01:50,480 So many people are hurting right now in this COVID-19 crisis. 17 00:01:50,740 --> 00:01:54,620 There's so much fear and frustration and anger 18 00:01:54,620 --> 00:01:55,280 out there. 19 00:01:55,280 --> 00:02:00,740 I just pray that you intervene and help us make wise decisions 20 00:02:00,740 --> 00:02:03,840 as council members, lawyers, leaders of the city 21 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:07,880 to be able to govern wisely, Lord. 22 00:02:08,340 --> 00:02:10,000 And we thank you for these things, Amen. 23 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:10,740 All 24 00:02:13,050 --> 00:02:16,230 right, we don't have any presentations or proclamations, obviously. 25 00:02:17,870 --> 00:02:20,510 We have any public comments, I see one. 26 00:02:23,980 --> 00:02:26,780 Oh, that's our excuse me, I'm sorry about that. 27 00:02:26,780 --> 00:02:28,140 The evocation through me off. 28 00:02:28,660 --> 00:02:31,920 Roll call please, if we could have that. 29 00:02:33,750 --> 00:02:34,190 Thank you. 30 00:02:34,290 --> 00:02:39,830 But the record show, Mayor Heft and Council Member Sedrick are in the Council Chamber and 31 00:02:39,830 --> 00:02:47,270 Mayor for attend, basult, council members, Wheeler and Gilbert are joining by 32 00:02:47,270 --> 00:02:47,870 teleconference. 33 00:02:48,350 --> 00:02:48,950 All right, thank you. 34 00:02:49,230 --> 00:02:51,490 Okay, now we will move on to public comments. 35 00:02:52,470 --> 00:02:54,590 We have one public comment in front of us. 36 00:02:55,110 --> 00:02:58,890 One person in the room, this is the time to rest of the city council and any matter not listed 37 00:02:58,890 --> 00:03:03,370 on the agenda that is within the subject matter jurisdiction of the city council. 38 00:03:03,930 --> 00:03:08,690 Public comments are limited to three minutes per person and overall time limit of 10 minutes 39 00:03:08,690 --> 00:03:11,050 for anyone subject to a time limit of 30 minutes. 40 00:03:11,230 --> 00:03:14,370 If you could just go ahead and stitch name and address force 41 00:03:14,370 --> 00:03:15,810 and I think you know the draw. 42 00:03:16,050 --> 00:03:20,210 I do, we're far away. 43 00:03:20,450 --> 00:03:21,770 Enough way, I think I'm fine with that. 44 00:03:22,050 --> 00:03:22,490 Yeah, no problem. 45 00:03:23,690 --> 00:03:25,270 I don't want to hyperventilate again. 46 00:03:26,430 --> 00:03:27,910 My name is Robin Jokens. 47 00:03:28,050 --> 00:03:32,610 I am located at 25321 Airhart Road, Laguna Hills, California. 48 00:03:33,690 --> 00:03:37,050 Good evening, Mayor Heft and City Council members and staff. 49 00:03:37,050 --> 00:03:42,350 I have comments regarding public safety and news about an appreciation parade that you may 50 00:03:42,350 --> 00:03:44,790 or may not be aware of. 51 00:03:45,290 --> 00:03:51,210 Safety concerns recently on my street, we had an incident at about 1.30 in the morning, 52 00:03:51,410 --> 00:03:54,930 which I did call the non-emergency number and reported to police. 53 00:03:55,690 --> 00:04:02,830 We had two individuals that were dropped off at the corner and they were fishing in vehicles, 54 00:04:02,830 --> 00:04:10,550 One of which actually got into a vehicle of our neighbor and fortunately, I was able to 55 00:04:10,550 --> 00:04:11,630 scare them off. 56 00:04:12,570 --> 00:04:13,750 I do want to commend the sheriff. 57 00:04:13,890 --> 00:04:15,190 They were very responsive. 58 00:04:16,430 --> 00:04:19,230 Unfortunately, they did not apprehend anybody that evening. 59 00:04:19,470 --> 00:04:23,570 They did apprehend somebody actually, I think, two individuals another evening. 60 00:04:24,810 --> 00:04:27,770 So I'd like to thank the sheriff for that. 61 00:04:28,490 --> 00:04:40,630 In addition to that, we have had an abundance of used condoms, alcohol beverages that are distributed 62 00:04:40,630 --> 00:04:43,430 on our street and in and around our areas. 63 00:04:44,790 --> 00:04:46,950 Lately there has also been hypertermic needles. 64 00:04:47,430 --> 00:04:50,550 Fortunately they put the cap back on, so I guess safety first. 65 00:04:51,370 --> 00:04:57,350 And then also recently we have had solicitations door to door for donations. 66 00:04:59,550 --> 00:05:13,870 So, I know a major part of our city's budget is safety, however, despite our best efforts and in these times that we find ourselves and despite the best efforts of the sheriff at times we don't feel safe. 67 00:05:13,870 --> 00:05:16,910 So I just want to to bring that to City Council's attention. 68 00:05:17,690 --> 00:05:23,410 I've also asked the community to start reporting to the non-emergency number because I think people somehow think through 69 00:05:23,410 --> 00:05:26,530 of Osmosis, the sheriff just knows this type of stuff. 70 00:05:27,250 --> 00:05:33,650 So I'm going to try to work with the community to get more information on these incidents that they have them. 71 00:05:34,170 --> 00:05:37,230 Two, we're guiding the COVID-19 hotel. 72 00:05:37,730 --> 00:05:41,270 We do thank you for fighting for the well-being and rights of our community. 73 00:05:41,270 --> 00:05:47,970 It is the community's hope that we will receive regular updates on occupancy, as well as use of the location. 74 00:05:48,530 --> 00:05:51,550 And I know there was a reason update, which is wanted to make that clear. 75 00:05:52,510 --> 00:06:03,610 With regards to an appreciation parade on the 14th, which is this coming Thursday, there is going to be an appreciation parade to thank Satellback Memorial Hospital and Health Workers. 76 00:06:04,870 --> 00:06:09,330 It is my understanding that the sheriff and fire department will also be involved with that. 77 00:06:09,330 --> 00:06:13,910 So please expect an email from Natasha Gillette on that. 78 00:06:14,630 --> 00:06:16,550 And again, just thank you. 79 00:06:17,690 --> 00:06:23,270 I mean, really, in this time, more than ever, I really want to thank Council staff and 80 00:06:23,270 --> 00:06:28,170 our sheriff for ensuring the best health and welfare of our community. 81 00:06:28,470 --> 00:06:29,350 Thank you. 82 00:06:29,670 --> 00:06:29,810 All right. 83 00:06:29,890 --> 00:06:30,910 Thank you very much. 84 00:06:31,150 --> 00:06:32,810 Yeah, I'm actually aware of that parade. 85 00:06:32,830 --> 00:06:37,090 And I'm going to be talking about that a little bit later tonight when we get to council 86 00:06:37,090 --> 00:06:37,710 comments. 87 00:06:38,650 --> 00:06:51,330 All right, consent calendar all matters listed under consent calendar are considered to be routine and will be enacted by one motion approving the recommendation listed on the agenda. 88 00:06:51,990 --> 00:06:58,670 There will be no separate discussion unless members of the City Council or staff request specific items to be removed from the consent calendar. 89 00:06:59,530 --> 00:07:03,930 We have items 3.1 through 90 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:11,420 3.2, sorry about that, last my page. 91 00:07:11,740 --> 00:07:20,300 All right, we have items 3.1 through 3.18, yeah. 92 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:25,060 If there's any council member that wants to pull anyone of these items? 93 00:07:27,390 --> 00:07:28,490 Yes, I'd like to pull one. 94 00:07:29,110 --> 00:07:31,510 Okay, what was council member Wheeler? 95 00:07:33,430 --> 00:07:35,490 I'd like to call it 314. 96 00:07:36,770 --> 00:07:37,330 314. 97 00:07:39,940 --> 00:07:40,120 All right. 98 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:43,760 Any other council members that would like to pull any items? 99 00:07:49,140 --> 00:07:49,860 Hearing none. 100 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:50,440 All right. 101 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:53,320 Do I have a motion to approve the balance? 102 00:07:55,060 --> 00:07:55,300 All right. 103 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:56,780 It's been moved by. 104 00:07:56,780 --> 00:07:57,100 All right. 105 00:07:57,180 --> 00:07:58,260 It's been moved by Councilman. 106 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:01,880 Sejwik and seconded by Councilman Gilbert. 107 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:06,400 I'll in favor to approve the balance. 108 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:14,420 I guess we'll have a roll call vote, so at this point the two here can do a voice vote. 109 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:15,320 All right. 110 00:08:15,780 --> 00:08:16,160 All right. 111 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,400 And then we have Councilman Wheeler. 112 00:08:22,510 --> 00:08:23,630 Mayor, pretend, Hazel. 113 00:08:27,040 --> 00:08:28,060 Councilman Gilbert. 114 00:08:30,140 --> 00:08:30,180 Aye. 115 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:30,820 Okay. 116 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:31,940 So the balance is approved. 117 00:08:32,860 --> 00:08:33,700 Councilman Wheeler. 118 00:08:34,380 --> 00:08:36,440 You wanted to pull a 3.14 go ahead. 119 00:08:39,130 --> 00:08:39,510 Okay. 120 00:08:39,510 --> 00:08:47,610 It's time to stand at 314 deals with our free maintenance service contract to be renewed for another year. 121 00:08:48,830 --> 00:08:55,590 We are probably going to have a budget choice fault or at least have to reduce our budget by 1 to 2 million. 122 00:08:56,070 --> 00:09:02,990 If Dawn is correct and that holds, I think that this is a candidate probably or some cuts. 123 00:09:02,990 --> 00:09:12,810 It's nice to trim trees, but I don't think the trimming trees aesthetically is going to be in a high priority item. 124 00:09:13,330 --> 00:09:15,870 Absolutely, we'd have to trim for safety and things like that. 125 00:09:16,030 --> 00:09:17,930 I'd like to, you know, start discussion. 126 00:09:18,110 --> 00:09:22,950 We have to have the work done a little more and trim it back on intended. 127 00:09:24,550 --> 00:09:25,010 All right. 128 00:09:25,010 --> 00:09:28,090 I think this would be an item for Mr. Rosenfield? 129 00:09:28,090 --> 00:09:38,510 It could be, I would just say that we are going to be bringing a list of cuts to the City Council at the June 9th meeting. 130 00:09:40,450 --> 00:09:47,650 And we may be scaling back this contract to some extent that we do need to have tree service. 131 00:09:47,650 --> 00:10:09,650 This is actually a very important public safety, the vast majority of all of our claims are related to trees falling in limbs falling and those can be very expensive if we don't have a sustained and 132 00:10:09,650 --> 00:10:12,970 tree trimming program and protocols. 133 00:10:13,410 --> 00:10:17,130 So this is something I don't view as discretionary, 134 00:10:17,310 --> 00:10:19,910 and if Mr. Rosenfield would like to add anything to that. 135 00:10:20,850 --> 00:10:22,690 That would be flying too. 136 00:10:25,180 --> 00:10:25,920 Thank you, Don. 137 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,240 Madam Mayor, members of the City Council, 138 00:10:29,780 --> 00:10:33,240 we do anticipate cutting back on the expenditures of tree trimming, 139 00:10:33,420 --> 00:10:36,580 but still maintaining the service for the reasons expressed 140 00:10:36,580 --> 00:10:37,940 by the City Manager. 141 00:10:37,940 --> 00:10:45,940 As a fiscal year, 2021 budget for treaty trimming is $358,000. 142 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:52,220 The same answer will go through the tier 1 cuts anticipated, but just to share with you, 143 00:10:52,380 --> 00:10:53,820 the topic has been brought up. 144 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:58,020 We've already recommended a $50,000 cuts from that budget. 145 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:03,980 And if more cuts are needed, we're looking at all other programs, 146 00:11:03,980 --> 00:11:15,840 including tree maintenance services for potential additional cuts, and otherwise though I would recommend to the council do approve the one-year extension of this contract. 147 00:11:17,700 --> 00:11:32,980 So I guess a point of information Mr. Rosenstein in terms of the one-year extension is that with everything that's been the way before COVID came around or is that with the cuts and 148 00:11:32,980 --> 00:11:38,060 that the vendor is accepting those. 149 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:47,940 The amount of the three trimming contracts is a unit price contract, so we have a certain 150 00:11:47,940 --> 00:11:52,720 price for certain types inside the tree for trimming or removal or planting. 151 00:11:53,740 --> 00:11:57,020 And the staff is fully in control of the actual expenditures. 152 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:03,880 The vendor, West Coast Arbys, is well aware that the city will be making a cutback. 153 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:08,540 They've expressed no objection and we will be able to control that budget. 154 00:12:09,900 --> 00:12:15,960 Okay, I think in the name of safety, like Mr. White said, I think that's very important. 155 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,140 Did you have any other comments, Mr. Wheeler on that? 156 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:21,720 I think that satisfies me. 157 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,740 Did we lose someone on the council or did we gain someone? 158 00:12:29,700 --> 00:12:32,100 Mr. Wheeler, did you have any other comments on that? 159 00:12:35,910 --> 00:12:38,390 I think we might have lost councilman Wheeler. 160 00:12:39,010 --> 00:12:45,390 You might have lost Mr. Wheeler or Council Member Wheeler, but I have something to weigh in. 161 00:12:46,310 --> 00:12:47,570 Regarding 3.18. 162 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,200 I'm sorry, 3.14. I'm sorry, 3.14, I'm sorry in the wrong one. 163 00:12:53,220 --> 00:12:55,960 3.14, yes. 164 00:12:56,540 --> 00:12:57,060 Yes. 165 00:12:59,450 --> 00:13:00,070 Okay, go ahead. 166 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:03,040 Okay. 167 00:13:04,260 --> 00:13:04,420 So. 168 00:13:04,420 --> 00:13:06,400 Can I go back to my back again? 169 00:13:06,660 --> 00:13:08,320 Yeah, you're back in. 170 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:13,780 Mayor Pritim Pizzled is making a comment about 3.14, and then we'll have you back. 171 00:13:13,860 --> 00:13:15,360 Go ahead, Mayor Pritim. 172 00:13:15,820 --> 00:13:15,960 Pizzled. 173 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:19,020 Okay. 174 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:29,260 So, one thing we have in looking at health, we are known for our trees, and as beautiful as they are, they 175 00:13:29,260 --> 00:13:38,300 are a liability, and we should not, and my view, we should be 176 00:13:38,300 --> 00:14:05,000 and careful as possible with these trees, because it takes one, it takes not cutting or trimming them to cause a major branch to fall, in a Nellie gel, a tree branch fell on to a car, a vehicle, and they've been as known within the vehicle, but it's cost significant damage. 177 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:14,060 So my concern is by touching the budget is creates a huge safety issue because we are a city of trees. 178 00:14:14,820 --> 00:14:23,000 So I think we should not be touching if we need to be as prophylactic as possible with the trees. 179 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:29,820 Well, I believe it sounds like we're going to have an opportunity to get into this in a lot more detail, 180 00:14:29,820 --> 00:14:36,000 but at this point we're looking to extend with the option of making some changes correct. 181 00:14:36,280 --> 00:14:41,440 The budget discussions will occur on June 9th. Tonight is just about extending the contract 182 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:48,400 which Mr. Rosenfield made clear. We're in complete control of its unit-based task base. 183 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:55,480 So if we don't order them to do work, nothing happens. They just don't get paid money to get paid money. 184 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:58,260 All right, Mr. Sedgwick, you wanted to add to this? 185 00:14:58,760 --> 00:14:59,660 Yeah, I think, guys. 186 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:10,260 Court Mr. Rosenfeld brought up, and I think the plan is valid, that we approved the contract, 187 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:16,420 but it still allows us the opportunity to cut back when we have the budget discussion. Obviously, 188 00:15:16,580 --> 00:15:21,180 we're going to need to do some trees. We won't be able to cut all of our tree trimming, so we need 189 00:15:21,180 --> 00:15:25,800 to approve the contracts so that we can get some trees trimmed. But I do like Council Member Wheeler's 190 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:32,540 idea to see what we can do to postpone, you know, some tree trimming for a year, where 191 00:15:32,540 --> 00:15:37,960 it's, you know, where it makes sense, because I think that's, I think, especially if it's 192 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:43,440 more of an aesthetic issue than a safety issue on some trees, that that would be one area 193 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:48,360 where we might postpone some tree trimming given the emergency status that we find ourselves 194 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:54,960 and financially. So I like the comment. I also like the response. 195 00:15:55,420 --> 00:15:56,540 Can I have a comment? 196 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:01,500 I believe that, yeah, Councilman Gilbert, I believe you were first. I can't quite tell. 197 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:02,200 Go ahead. 198 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,720 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've been with John. 199 00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:07,520 Okay. 200 00:16:09,460 --> 00:16:13,600 Councilman, will you do have an additional comment to make before we vote on this? 201 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:15,740 Yeah, yeah. 202 00:16:15,740 --> 00:16:24,000 or some of these night, my phone got cut off from last night's smoke until a councilwoman 203 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:27,080 the Pagels Florida talk there, and I don't know where I got came into the group. 204 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:31,860 Yeah, I'm fine with it, thank you, Ben, since the only thing I was concerned about, as a 205 00:16:31,860 --> 00:16:37,880 rescival section C, it says that basically the increased budget, you know, when I've been 206 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:39,380 to enter the 305. 207 00:16:40,860 --> 00:16:45,160 And I understood this to be that we approve this. 208 00:16:45,380 --> 00:16:47,680 And we're paying out 3,000, not here. 209 00:16:48,780 --> 00:16:50,400 Conflicting, I think, things they were, 210 00:16:50,460 --> 00:16:51,920 we can cut back about budget. 211 00:16:53,060 --> 00:16:53,660 Is that so? 212 00:16:54,020 --> 00:16:56,520 Or are we mandate a pay to 3,5, 213 00:16:56,660 --> 00:16:57,660 paying on the clear on that? 214 00:16:58,700 --> 00:16:59,340 All right. 215 00:16:59,500 --> 00:17:00,040 That's out of there. 216 00:17:00,100 --> 00:17:01,340 This is Camp Rosenfield. 217 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:02,440 Yes, Mr. Rosenfield. 218 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:03,500 Sure. 219 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:04,140 Go ahead, please. 220 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:31,840 So what that recital represents is that a previous amendment to the contracts, recognize that the city council approved a further investment in tree maintenance in your prior fiscal budget and the maximum contract amount of that then current contract would not accommodate the city spending that increased budget. 221 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:42,820 So the amendment was bringing the contractors and will maximum compensation value up to the enhanced 222 00:17:43,340 --> 00:17:46,220 budget that the city council approved previously. 223 00:17:47,740 --> 00:17:54,420 But the part that you mentioned, I would estimate when you lost contact by phone, is that 224 00:17:54,420 --> 00:17:56,640 this is a unit price contract. 225 00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:00,140 it is not a lump sum or six feet contract. 226 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:04,760 So the city is controlled, in total control of how many trees 227 00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:09,560 and what expenditure we've made over the course of the fiscal year. 228 00:18:10,340 --> 00:18:15,280 The vendor, let's go to our risk is fully aware of those requirements 229 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:19,900 and the current COVID-19 conditions in terms of our budget impact 230 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:23,180 that will be further discussed in the city council on June 9. 231 00:18:24,060 --> 00:18:31,240 And so the answer to your question is, we can cut back the budget without any consequence relative to the contract. 232 00:18:33,350 --> 00:18:33,850 Okay, thank you. 233 00:18:34,810 --> 00:18:35,410 All right. 234 00:18:35,530 --> 00:18:38,590 Do I have a motion to a move item 3.14? 235 00:18:39,310 --> 00:18:39,720 Some moved. 236 00:18:40,430 --> 00:18:40,650 All right. 237 00:18:40,710 --> 00:18:41,450 Do I have a second? 238 00:18:42,110 --> 00:18:42,410 Second. 239 00:18:42,990 --> 00:18:43,190 All right. 240 00:18:43,210 --> 00:18:43,970 I think it's been moved. 241 00:18:44,330 --> 00:18:44,750 Second in. 242 00:18:44,830 --> 00:18:45,530 All in favor. 243 00:18:46,130 --> 00:18:46,970 In this chamber. 244 00:18:47,470 --> 00:18:47,950 Say aye. 245 00:18:49,510 --> 00:18:49,930 All right. 246 00:18:52,470 --> 00:18:53,670 I'll do it. 247 00:18:53,670 --> 00:18:57,090 of a roll call vote for those on the phone. 248 00:18:57,550 --> 00:18:58,590 Mayor pretend, pays old. 249 00:19:02,300 --> 00:19:02,900 Thank you. 250 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:04,140 Councilman Gilbert. 251 00:19:06,180 --> 00:19:06,640 All right. 252 00:19:06,980 --> 00:19:07,660 Councilman Wheeler. 253 00:19:10,100 --> 00:19:10,320 All right. 254 00:19:10,500 --> 00:19:11,240 OK, thank you. 255 00:19:11,420 --> 00:19:12,900 That passes unanimously. 256 00:19:16,360 --> 00:19:18,500 So before I move on to the next item, 257 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:20,280 I do have another pink card. 258 00:19:20,380 --> 00:19:21,460 Is it appropriate to? 259 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:23,640 OK, so we have another public comment. 260 00:19:23,720 --> 00:19:27,540 If you could go ahead and come to the podium over here 261 00:19:27,540 --> 00:19:33,240 state your name and your address. My name is Nicole Maldonato. I live at 2-495-195-1-1 262 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:38,340 industry. I'm a junior health. I know I've had dialogue with each of you before about 263 00:19:38,340 --> 00:19:43,680 some issues in verbal community with the schools and I can't miss for you. So thank you for 264 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:48,700 having me speak tonight. I'm a local mom of five children. I'm very concerned about all 265 00:19:48,700 --> 00:19:53,440 of our kids' mental health right now. Our parks are continuing to stay close. I personally 266 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:58,220 living in a neighborhood that doesn't have a lot of small children, and we cannot take our children 267 00:19:58,220 --> 00:20:02,360 to the playground. I understand maybe the sports parks and these large parks we keep 268 00:20:02,360 --> 00:20:06,080 close, but I feel like those parents that want to have the rights to take their children 269 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:11,040 in the park, we should have that right. And those that don't, and they're so fearful, or, you 270 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:14,560 know, they don't want to be outside of their homes, they should have that choice to stay 271 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:19,840 indoors. And so I just wanted to come here tonight to speak on behalf of a large number 272 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:20,980 of Luke O'Neill's moms. 273 00:20:21,340 --> 00:20:23,480 I got a call back today after leaving several messages 274 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,400 for your parks community and they told me to be here tonight. 275 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:28,240 So the minimum I haven't got home at 6.40, 276 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,040 I hopped in the shower and I hauled that here. 277 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:32,080 Because it brings me to tears 278 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:35,360 watching my children be into press from the age of 17 279 00:20:35,360 --> 00:20:38,300 to identify your soul because they can't go to the local playground. 280 00:20:39,140 --> 00:20:41,120 And so I hope that you guys can maybe look at that 281 00:20:41,120 --> 00:20:42,640 as a parent's we're struggling. 282 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,500 We're homeschooling, we're trying to fight for our families financially 283 00:20:45,500 --> 00:20:48,100 and we can't even take our kids to the local park to play. 284 00:20:49,940 --> 00:21:10,580 Well, thank you for your comments. I know where we're kind of all in that vote, as far as like trying to look for, you know, silver lining to the cloud that we're all under, and hopefully we'll start to have some things lifted soon to where we will have those abilities, you know, within a safe environment that thank you so much for your comments. I appreciate that. 285 00:21:10,920 --> 00:21:13,440 Madam Mayor, I would have a verification. 286 00:21:15,940 --> 00:21:18,760 Yes, the Councilman Wheeler, you had a point of clarification. 287 00:21:21,100 --> 00:21:22,400 Yeah, I want you to point of clarification. 288 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:25,820 The parks are open, are they not? 289 00:21:25,900 --> 00:21:30,140 It's just the equipment that we want to have for labor, but that's not correct. 290 00:21:30,300 --> 00:21:34,500 Yes, I believe our city manager is going to speak to that. 291 00:21:35,300 --> 00:21:42,500 Yes, so I think the city council is aware of our parks are open, they are not closed to 292 00:21:42,500 --> 00:21:49,680 public playground equipment is closed by order executive order of the governor of the 293 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:59,500 state of California and so not the city and so those will remain closed until that order 294 00:21:59,500 --> 00:22:02,100 is lifted at the state level. 295 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,080 Okay that's fine. 296 00:22:06,140 --> 00:22:11,700 I want to know I put on here to be a lady's name but I want to say if that answer a question 297 00:22:11,700 --> 00:22:14,640 that the kids can go to the park, they just don't want them spread 298 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:18,140 here and by touching the equipment. Is that the vet helper at all? 299 00:22:21,030 --> 00:22:24,310 I think she understands that. She was just asking if there's something that we could 300 00:22:24,310 --> 00:22:27,270 do to expedite the opening of the playgrounds. 301 00:22:27,390 --> 00:22:30,350 Right, I think it's about the playground equipment. I don't think it's about standing 302 00:22:30,350 --> 00:22:31,350 and staring at it. 303 00:22:31,610 --> 00:22:34,710 Yeah, I think it's one of those things that you have a five-year-old, eight-year-old 304 00:22:34,710 --> 00:22:38,190 that's six-year-old that's looking at playground, like when you mean I can't touch it. 305 00:22:39,170 --> 00:22:42,030 You know, I can't play on the playground, so that's what's hard. 306 00:22:42,030 --> 00:22:45,170 I'll kind of stand. Thank you. Appreciate you comments. Really do. 307 00:22:47,190 --> 00:22:52,450 All right. We are moving on to our planning agency. 308 00:22:53,410 --> 00:22:58,010 May I have the planning agency members. We'll call please. 309 00:23:02,060 --> 00:23:07,700 Let there are some show that's my agency member. 310 00:23:07,700 --> 00:23:11,540 I have to hand-sadric our presence and on the phone are 311 00:23:11,540 --> 00:23:12,840 plenty of agency members, 312 00:23:14,100 --> 00:23:15,980 Gilbert's, Wheeler and Paisel. 313 00:23:18,350 --> 00:23:18,730 All right, great. 314 00:23:19,070 --> 00:23:21,790 We don't have any public comments that I can see for that. 315 00:23:24,130 --> 00:23:27,710 All right, do I have a motion for the approval of the minutes? 316 00:23:27,790 --> 00:23:28,490 So moved. 317 00:23:28,750 --> 00:23:29,510 All right, have a second. 318 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:32,460 Do I have a second? 319 00:23:33,460 --> 00:23:34,920 All right, thank you. 320 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:36,060 All right. 321 00:23:36,060 --> 00:23:37,400 All right, it's been moved and seconded. 322 00:23:37,860 --> 00:23:39,720 All in favor and the chambers say aye. 323 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:40,000 All right. 324 00:23:40,000 --> 00:23:46,620 I, all right, I'm going to give a voice vote, Councilman Wheeler, 325 00:23:49,810 --> 00:23:50,750 Councilman Gilbert, 326 00:23:53,550 --> 00:23:53,730 Mayor 327 00:23:53,730 --> 00:23:54,650 Pertemp Hazel, 328 00:23:57,980 --> 00:23:59,440 all right, thank you, 329 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:04,980 all right, any administrative reports, Mr. City Manager? 330 00:24:06,860 --> 00:24:14,120 Okay. Okay, and the Planning Agency, public hearings. Okay, now I will adjourn the Planning 331 00:24:14,120 --> 00:24:17,300 agency and reconvene our city council meeting. 332 00:24:19,020 --> 00:24:26,980 We have item number 5.1 public hearing on the 2020 weed, rubbish and refuse abatement. 333 00:24:27,300 --> 00:24:31,820 I believe that is Mr. Rosenfeld, do you have a presentation for us or a report? 334 00:24:34,500 --> 00:24:35,060 Yes, I do. 335 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:35,860 Thank you, Mayor. 336 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:43,100 If members of the city council, this is the time noticed for the annual weed abatement public 337 00:24:43,100 --> 00:24:50,860 hearing to allow homeowners the opportunity to address the city council relative to the 338 00:24:50,860 --> 00:24:57,140 order that they have been issued to a faith, weed, relish and refuse from their property 339 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,520 starting later than this month. 340 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:09,620 The city has been very difficult over the years, issued approximately 550 notices to 341 00:25:09,620 --> 00:25:16,740 this property throughout the city, based upon historic and observed conditions on their 342 00:25:16,740 --> 00:25:24,080 properties, needing just abatement. And as is very typical, many homeowners have already 343 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:32,620 contacted the city indicating that they are going to care of their weeds and other fire hazards 344 00:25:32,620 --> 00:25:40,240 to do gate. And again, historically, the city has rarely had to obey private properties 345 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:46,700 that has happened an occasional single or second time, but not very frequently. 346 00:25:48,900 --> 00:25:56,420 Based upon the public hearing notice, the city council has requested to open the public hearing 347 00:25:56,420 --> 00:26:05,300 take testimony and consider adoption of the resolution, which is attached to the staff 348 00:26:05,300 --> 00:26:12,260 before, which creates a resolution of the City Council on the City of the Hill's California 349 00:26:12,260 --> 00:26:17,140 issuing an abatement order and authorizing the Assistant City Manager Director of the 350 00:26:17,140 --> 00:26:22,580 Services to commence enforcing weed, rubbish, and refuse abatement against specified 351 00:26:22,580 --> 00:26:28,140 of a plan. I'm available to answer any questions and associate the 352 00:26:28,140 --> 00:26:32,180 legendary Amber Shaw. It's also online should there be a need for further 353 00:26:32,180 --> 00:26:41,320 information. Do we have any questions or discussion with the members on the phone 354 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:47,760 or here in the chamber regarding this for Mr. Rosenstein, Mr. Rosenfield or 355 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:48,920 Or Mishaw? 356 00:26:52,660 --> 00:26:54,080 I have a question from Mr. Roosevelt. 357 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:56,740 Go ahead. 358 00:26:59,790 --> 00:27:00,610 Thank you. 359 00:27:01,350 --> 00:27:03,910 First, I want to say thank you for gathering 360 00:27:03,910 --> 00:27:04,610 information. 361 00:27:05,130 --> 00:27:08,030 It's important to lead a maintenance and rubbish. 362 00:27:09,150 --> 00:27:13,430 I think this is an important, I think it's important 363 00:27:13,430 --> 00:27:17,930 in our city, especially because of the crevents 364 00:27:17,930 --> 00:27:23,110 and a number of issues that can happen. 365 00:27:23,990 --> 00:27:29,770 One thing that I, one complaint I received frequently from 366 00:27:29,770 --> 00:27:36,090 citizens in the city is with respect to the, 367 00:27:36,090 --> 00:27:37,890 we've been certain businesses. 368 00:27:38,730 --> 00:27:41,950 So I'm just curious if they, if they, 369 00:27:42,010 --> 00:27:45,270 we may include the post office, 370 00:27:46,290 --> 00:27:54,490 as well as the uptractorate from the specific center of the mall. 371 00:27:58,380 --> 00:28:00,700 So Madam Mayor and members of the City Council, 372 00:28:01,500 --> 00:28:04,700 the type of weak conditions that you're describing 373 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:12,860 there are not this handful of events typically, 374 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,520 even though the post office doesn't do a great job of maintaining 375 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:21,900 in our landscaping as we all know when we drive by there, and then they seem to be 376 00:28:21,900 --> 00:28:28,760 the best specific, but the weed abatement notice is did not include the post office or 377 00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:35,680 the property owned by a low-guar partners this year, because we have other means to address 378 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:44,640 the weed issues on their properties, and if those means are not successful then we still have 379 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:50,080 and enforcement authority as a backstop to the wheat event in the program. 380 00:28:51,280 --> 00:29:00,380 Previously, we did have last year complaints about the condition of the weeds on the property 381 00:29:00,380 --> 00:29:08,380 owned by rural and biopartners, staff contacted rural and biopartners, and they thank 382 00:29:08,380 --> 00:29:13,140 us for contacting them, and they took care of the issue if they take about two weeks, but 383 00:29:13,140 --> 00:29:18,740 did remove the weed at that time and we'll certainly follow up with them for this spring as 384 00:29:18,740 --> 00:29:25,960 well. The post office is a little more challenging because of the federal agency and we may 385 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:31,320 or may not have certain authorities with them but putting that aside certainly can reach out 386 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:34,560 for them and ask for a better maintenance of that area. 387 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,580 Any other comments before we take this 388 00:29:42,580 --> 00:29:47,480 of a, oh, thank you. All right. 389 00:29:51,500 --> 00:29:54,840 I'd like to go ahead and open the public hearing. If 390 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,660 there is anyone who would like to speak. 391 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:18,380 All right. I don't see anyone who is looking to speak here. So I'll go ahead and I'll close the public hearing. And if we do not have any more discussion, I will entertain a motion to adopt this resolution and accept a staff's recommendation on this. 392 00:30:20,590 --> 00:30:21,690 Do I have a motion? 393 00:30:23,930 --> 00:30:26,050 All right, thank you. 394 00:30:26,410 --> 00:30:27,970 And do I have a second? 395 00:30:30,050 --> 00:30:31,010 Okay, great. 396 00:30:31,250 --> 00:30:32,390 It's been moved and seconded. 397 00:30:32,570 --> 00:30:33,650 Thank you. 398 00:30:34,010 --> 00:30:35,650 All in the chamber say aye. 399 00:30:37,230 --> 00:30:37,810 All right. 400 00:30:38,190 --> 00:30:39,530 Mayor Pertene Paisled. 401 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:45,360 Councilman Wheeler. 402 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:47,880 Aye. 403 00:30:48,100 --> 00:30:48,980 Councilman Gilbert. 404 00:30:51,740 --> 00:30:51,840 All right. 405 00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:52,220 Thank you. 406 00:30:52,420 --> 00:30:53,320 That passes unanimously. 407 00:30:55,020 --> 00:30:55,240 All right. 408 00:30:55,420 --> 00:30:56,900 I will move on to item. 409 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:17,280 6.1 administrative reports are City Manager COVID-19 local emergency city manager status report and before we get into that I do want to say that I was really pleased with the outcome of this letter that Mr. White is going to tell us about. 410 00:31:18,780 --> 00:31:20,680 Thank you, Madam Mayor, 411 00:31:23,990 --> 00:31:50,330 so it was a 62 days ago when this crisis really began, I think, for the city, it was Thursday, March 12, with a conference call with the county CEO and all the city managers in the county, and it was that following Monday when we had closed city hall to the public and had done some taking some other actions. 412 00:31:50,830 --> 00:31:54,750 It seems like a long time ago, it also seems like yesterday. 413 00:31:56,170 --> 00:32:06,510 What I wanted to do tonight, I had handed out emailed to you and the updated California 414 00:32:06,510 --> 00:32:07,570 road map. 415 00:32:07,870 --> 00:32:10,890 So if you have that handy, I am going to use that. 416 00:32:11,450 --> 00:32:18,410 There are copies of it in the back, if anyone in the public would like to follow along 417 00:32:18,410 --> 00:32:28,150 also. We just received this, I just received this today and I think there was the older one 418 00:32:28,150 --> 00:32:32,950 was in the staff report that it was part of the agenda packet. 419 00:32:35,010 --> 00:32:37,210 If you look at page 2, there's 420 00:32:37,210 --> 00:32:44,790 a reminder there that California's decisions are going to be based on science, data, and 421 00:32:44,790 --> 00:32:52,670 public health, and I think that is generally true, and to the Shagrin, as some people, not 422 00:32:52,670 --> 00:33:03,270 so much the economy, that would come after the science, the data, and the public health. 423 00:33:05,190 --> 00:33:12,770 Page three of that handouts says, what does stage two mean, and there's been a lot of confusion 424 00:33:12,770 --> 00:33:16,750 because the state has not been very clear about this. 425 00:33:16,790 --> 00:33:20,730 Beginning last week, when the governor first rolled it out, 426 00:33:20,990 --> 00:33:24,890 we had been in stage one, which was the whole stay at home. 427 00:33:26,090 --> 00:33:28,450 This is not a return to normal. 428 00:33:29,450 --> 00:33:31,450 As you know, there are four stages. 429 00:33:32,270 --> 00:33:35,930 There's stage one, stage two, stage three, 430 00:33:36,190 --> 00:33:38,850 and then stage four is actually stage three 431 00:33:38,850 --> 00:33:42,090 of where there's more at risk businesses open up. 432 00:33:42,090 --> 00:33:51,130 Stage 4 is when you can begin having large events, concerts, people assembling it, sporting events, and so forth. 433 00:33:53,430 --> 00:33:55,330 COVID-19 is still spreading. 434 00:33:55,810 --> 00:34:02,790 You can follow that for Orange County on the health care agencies website. 435 00:34:04,050 --> 00:34:07,510 The curve has been flattened, I think, dramatically. 436 00:34:08,750 --> 00:34:15,850 And as the state is saying here, California is gradually reopening only where we can reduce risk. 437 00:34:16,450 --> 00:34:20,370 I think that the word gradually is an overstatement. 438 00:34:21,550 --> 00:34:25,550 We have tip-toed into stage two. 439 00:34:26,630 --> 00:34:34,850 It is not, and it's, I think, getting through all of stage two is going to take some time. 440 00:34:34,850 --> 00:34:37,130 my best guess and from what I've heard, 441 00:34:37,730 --> 00:34:41,430 it will take this entire month probably, maybe longer. 442 00:34:43,390 --> 00:34:45,850 So this last Friday, as you can see, 443 00:34:46,430 --> 00:34:50,670 the big changes, which really didn't affect us too much, 444 00:34:51,290 --> 00:34:53,990 is that retailers can increase pickup and delivery, 445 00:34:56,290 --> 00:34:59,070 but they can't open up their stores and have people come in. 446 00:35:00,050 --> 00:35:02,610 So you can do pickup and delivery in quite frankly. 447 00:35:03,190 --> 00:35:03,490 It's nothing. 448 00:35:03,490 --> 00:35:08,390 It's a number of them we're doing that anyway. 449 00:35:08,590 --> 00:35:08,610 Yeah. 450 00:35:10,750 --> 00:35:16,730 So manufacturers in warehouses while that has an impact on those industries. 451 00:35:16,970 --> 00:35:22,950 It doesn't have a specific impact necessarily to the city itself. 452 00:35:25,290 --> 00:35:29,610 If you look at the next, it's a gradual move to stage two. 453 00:35:29,610 --> 00:35:37,790 They're going to, with their say, we will gradually reopen more industries and opening later 454 00:35:37,790 --> 00:35:49,510 in stage two are things like offices so that would involve city hall, seeded dining at restaurants, 455 00:35:50,490 --> 00:35:55,650 which is going to be interesting because they're going to have less occupancy. 456 00:35:57,330 --> 00:36:06,470 It'll be interesting to see how that works out because I think for some people to open up like that they might lose more money than they're losing today, right? 457 00:36:07,370 --> 00:36:10,850 So it'll be interesting to see how that plays out. 458 00:36:11,650 --> 00:36:15,090 I do know that there is a lot of takeout and drive through. 459 00:36:15,590 --> 00:36:18,150 I went to Chick-fil-A today at 2 o'clock. 460 00:36:18,190 --> 00:36:21,490 I thought I would pick up something and there were 15 cars in the queue. 461 00:36:22,290 --> 00:36:25,510 And I know raising canes is very busy. 462 00:36:26,010 --> 00:36:29,530 Some of these businesses may actually have a greater sales 463 00:36:29,530 --> 00:36:31,830 this quarter than they had in 2019. 464 00:36:33,710 --> 00:36:35,930 That's because there aren't a whole lot of options. 465 00:36:37,770 --> 00:36:40,710 But shopping malls, we don't have a shopping mall 466 00:36:40,710 --> 00:36:44,490 so that wouldn't affect us in outdoor museums 467 00:36:44,490 --> 00:36:47,890 are some of the other later moves. 468 00:36:47,890 --> 00:36:55,890 We've been getting a lot of interest questions about barbershops and hair salons and theaters and 469 00:36:58,070 --> 00:37:04,470 gyms and so forth. Those are all part of stage three because they're considered more at risk. 470 00:37:06,250 --> 00:37:17,390 We're not even close to being in stage two fully. So stage three is some later time and all of that will be at the direction of the state of California. 471 00:37:18,830 --> 00:37:24,570 They will have, they're going to be individual industry guidance. 472 00:37:25,370 --> 00:37:34,030 One thing I want you to know that we are going to be working with the county of Orange County City 473 00:37:34,030 --> 00:37:39,950 Managers Association, we're working on guidelines for getting back to work. 474 00:37:39,950 --> 00:37:49,810 And we will also have a customized plan specifically for city employees when that time does come. 475 00:37:50,870 --> 00:38:00,830 The next slide is probably the most important one in it's the one that is entitled regional variants. 476 00:38:02,090 --> 00:38:07,610 And what the state is saying is that counties can move further into stage two when they 477 00:38:07,610 --> 00:38:12,210 attest, they meet California Health Public Health Criteria. 478 00:38:13,870 --> 00:38:15,490 And this is the catch. 479 00:38:21,180 --> 00:38:25,720 You turn to the next page, it talks about regional variants criteria. 480 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:31,660 And it gives you just one example there, there's several of them and there's some that 481 00:38:31,660 --> 00:38:33,460 you on the next page. 482 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:43,620 The first one is epidemiologic stability. You can see one of those is 483 00:38:43,620 --> 00:38:51,540 no COVID-19 deaths in the past 14 days. That probably is not going to occur in Orange County 484 00:38:51,540 --> 00:39:00,100 or in any urban county in California for at least six months, if not longer. And so what the state 485 00:39:00,100 --> 00:39:10,100 has done is they have made stage two where your rural counties, especially those in the north 486 00:39:10,100 --> 00:39:18,160 and elsewhere in the state, will be able to open more fully in stage two, but all urban 487 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:24,620 counties are going to be at the mercy of the state, because there's no way that we will 488 00:39:24,620 --> 00:39:27,260 be able to move into stage two. 489 00:39:27,260 --> 00:39:30,320 Now, that doesn't mean that they're not going to change the rules. 490 00:39:31,020 --> 00:39:36,980 That doesn't mean that in what it does mean is all of the urban counties are lobbying heavily 491 00:39:36,980 --> 00:39:37,980 with the state. 492 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:44,120 They're going to try to come up with their own rules to get the state to buy into them. 493 00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:51,920 Again, the letter that the council directed us to draft for your review tonight to the Orange 494 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:56,820 County Board of Supervisors ties very nicely in with this. 495 00:39:56,820 --> 00:40:11,120 because we're encouraging them to do everything they can to reopen as soon as it is safe to do so and that letter is attached for your review and we can take any comments on that later. 496 00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:17,760 But this is the problem with the state's roadmap to recovery. 497 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:22,860 The urban counties we are caught between a rock and a hard place right now. 498 00:40:23,500 --> 00:40:31,380 The county, and I believe our county will be doing everything possible to get the state 499 00:40:31,380 --> 00:40:37,460 to allow us to reopen, but it really is in the hands of the state of California. 500 00:40:40,410 --> 00:40:45,990 And as you can see, there's different things about hospital capacity and so forth. 501 00:40:45,990 --> 00:40:54,130 And actually, I think most of those criteria are impossible for urban counties to meet. 502 00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:05,680 So at this time, if there's any questions regarding that road map, I'd be happy to answer them if I'm able. 503 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:15,460 Any questions from any of our council members either in the room or on the phone? 504 00:41:18,340 --> 00:41:25,780 All right, Madam Mayor moving on, one of the things that this shows us is that I think 505 00:41:25,780 --> 00:41:35,000 for stage two and possibly stage three, one of the things that we have been discussing 506 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:44,440 at the staff level for actually since the beginning of this epidemic some eight weeks ago now 507 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:57,260 is what to do with our community services, events, programs, classes, et cetera for this upcoming summer quarter. 508 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:07,800 And we're having a separate discussion on the Fourth of July, a couple of under 6.3.3. 509 00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:16,860 So, we're not speaking to that specifically here, but I wanted to let you know that given the condition that we are in, 510 00:42:18,140 --> 00:42:32,360 we really have no choice, but to cancel all events, programs, reservations and classes through the summer quarter, which takes us through September 10th of 2020. 511 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,380 And in so doing, 512 00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:47,160 I would be fur-lowing all part-time staff, which total 31 people until further 513 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:47,980 notice, 514 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:58,800 or what I would plan to do with our full-time community services staff is have 515 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:05,100 them and have already had them start working on this to actually be reassigned for the most 516 00:43:05,100 --> 00:43:12,000 as a COVID-19 recovery team, to help the community, to help businesses, to be a referral, 517 00:43:12,620 --> 00:43:18,580 to be kind of the local experts and giving out information that's becoming more and more critical, 518 00:43:19,180 --> 00:43:27,420 given the unclear messages that are coming from the state. And so I have Mr. Reynolds tasked with 519 00:43:27,420 --> 00:43:35,580 doing that. I think it's also a time that they will be doing a complete evaluation of 520 00:43:35,580 --> 00:43:43,460 community services. It's an unfortunate opportunity but it is an opportunity to take a look at how we do this. 521 00:43:43,660 --> 00:43:50,200 We've been doing it this way for a couple of decades and there are different ways to do community services. 522 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,040 There are more cost efficient ways to do it. 523 00:43:54,040 --> 00:44:04,040 And so we're going to be looking at that and then bringing that information to the council for your discussion and consideration as we stand up. 524 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,120 Restand up the program. 525 00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:18,380 My plan is that sometime either tomorrow or the next day I will be issuing an executive order that keeps the community center closed. 526 00:44:18,380 --> 00:44:27,680 and cancels, all events, programs, classes, and reservations through September 10th. 527 00:44:27,980 --> 00:44:33,820 In August, we will be doing an assessment to see if that needs to be continued for the 528 00:44:33,820 --> 00:44:34,520 fall quarter. 529 00:44:36,220 --> 00:44:44,840 And again, depending on who you listen to, this could go on for longer than even two quarters. 530 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:46,820 We just don't know. 531 00:44:46,820 --> 00:44:49,120 I have 532 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:52,360 a question. 533 00:44:54,340 --> 00:44:57,000 What are we seeing in terms of other cities? 534 00:44:57,540 --> 00:44:59,980 Our South County cities say in particular. 535 00:45:03,340 --> 00:45:11,960 I think everybody is doing the same thing. Yes, we had a conference, the 34 of us have a conference 536 00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:19,840 called once a week, and I asked the question, and not everybody chimed in, not everyone was on the call, but everybody 537 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:26,800 is doing it, cancelling through the summer, summer saying to canceling to the end of the year. 538 00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:33,080 I did have a lengthy conversation with the City Manager of Laguna Beach this afternoon because I noticed 539 00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:38,180 their agenda, they're talking about this very thing, they're also talking about the 4th of July. 540 00:45:39,620 --> 00:45:45,560 And the recommendation there is to close everything and all indications are they're going to do that. 541 00:45:45,700 --> 00:45:50,420 In fact, the pageants of the masters is not going to take place. 542 00:45:51,620 --> 00:45:55,860 They haven't canceled the pageant of the master since World War II. 543 00:45:57,100 --> 00:46:07,380 All of the festivals, all of their trolley service, Laguna Beach is basically closing down 544 00:46:07,380 --> 00:46:12,720 for the summer, and that would be for them they're making it through Labor Day weekend. 545 00:46:14,340 --> 00:46:17,980 Lake Forest is canceling, all of their stuff through the end. 546 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:23,340 There are some, you know, what we can talk about it, there are some cities that are doing 547 00:46:23,340 --> 00:46:31,300 a firework show because they feel that people can view that, but most have canceled their 548 00:46:31,300 --> 00:46:37,980 firework show and we found out today that Africa, the Community Association and Elisa 549 00:46:37,980 --> 00:46:43,520 be a whole canceled their firework show too. So, this is something that everyone is doing. 550 00:46:43,780 --> 00:46:47,420 We certainly will not be an outlier. 551 00:46:47,780 --> 00:46:50,340 Do we know about Sam Lark? I know we discussed that with you. 552 00:46:50,340 --> 00:46:50,980 No, we don't. 553 00:46:50,980 --> 00:46:59,060 We don't know about them, but I'm familiar with that show. I can't imagine that they would have it. 554 00:47:02,850 --> 00:47:05,350 So with that I would be happy to take any other questions. 555 00:47:05,790 --> 00:47:07,610 All right. Do we, I'm sorry. Do we have any questions? 556 00:47:07,690 --> 00:47:08,510 I've never heard something. 557 00:47:08,670 --> 00:47:09,030 I have a question. 558 00:47:09,610 --> 00:47:10,750 All right. Councilman Wheeler. 559 00:47:11,330 --> 00:47:12,010 Yeah, I have a question. 560 00:47:12,310 --> 00:47:12,870 Go ahead. 561 00:47:14,550 --> 00:47:15,530 You said it's true. 562 00:47:15,910 --> 00:47:17,570 You obviously, we're doing a healthy end. 563 00:47:17,890 --> 00:47:21,970 What would the occupancy sit with us on that? 564 00:47:24,470 --> 00:47:32,980 Yes, is that part of the emergency update I guess it could be part of the emergency update on Thursday there was zero 565 00:47:35,270 --> 00:47:37,690 Yes, there was zero on Thursday 566 00:47:37,690 --> 00:47:40,790 I haven't gotten an update 567 00:47:40,790 --> 00:47:44,430 Yesterday or today, but there was zero. I drove by it yesterday 568 00:47:45,110 --> 00:47:47,820 It looked vacant to me so 569 00:47:49,050 --> 00:47:49,670 Anyway 570 00:47:49,670 --> 00:47:53,670 Do you think there have been any in there at all? 571 00:47:54,470 --> 00:47:55,330 I'd come and know. 572 00:47:55,890 --> 00:47:56,990 A one that I know of. 573 00:47:57,190 --> 00:47:58,430 I think only one. 574 00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,020 Well, it's good that the numbers are down all around. 575 00:48:06,500 --> 00:48:06,640 All right. 576 00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:08,720 Any other questions or comments? 577 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:11,440 With regard to Mr. White's presentation? 578 00:48:15,210 --> 00:48:15,370 All right. 579 00:48:15,790 --> 00:48:17,710 I just have one other comment I guess. 580 00:48:18,030 --> 00:48:18,530 White's question. 581 00:48:19,590 --> 00:48:23,610 Or anything that we can do is a city to help our business open up. 582 00:48:24,130 --> 00:48:29,590 I guess us declaring all this essential would be a nice gesture, but definitely do it, thank 583 00:48:29,590 --> 00:48:30,510 her for her. 584 00:48:30,510 --> 00:48:36,670 So, in comfort and pamper by state regulation, is there anything that we can do to help 585 00:48:36,670 --> 00:48:39,490 our people that you know have done? 586 00:48:40,010 --> 00:48:40,910 Well, I think there is. 587 00:48:40,930 --> 00:48:48,370 I think what we can do is to try to kind of be a curator of all the information, all the 588 00:48:48,370 --> 00:48:55,090 executive orders and to provide them with good information, to give them good referrals, 589 00:48:56,290 --> 00:49:02,410 to maybe even at times be on buzzmen for them with different state agencies or county agencies. 590 00:49:03,230 --> 00:49:06,130 That's what I see our COVID recovery team doing. 591 00:49:08,570 --> 00:49:09,530 Well, I for one hope. 592 00:49:09,570 --> 00:49:13,270 I'd like to make the suggestions that you're meeting with the other cities. 593 00:49:13,730 --> 00:49:18,610 I'd like to see, yes, that there are a lot of stores, for example, I use you know Walmart, 594 00:49:18,610 --> 00:49:26,270 They're being as warm. They're allowed to sell clothes, but then some local store that sells clothes has to be closed. 595 00:49:27,630 --> 00:49:31,830 I don't know. I don't know. It comes to mind what these clothes are. 596 00:49:32,570 --> 00:49:40,490 I'd like to see them try to do some medium-gram and say, okay, if you have a business that sells anything, really. 597 00:49:48,370 --> 00:50:00,250 If I understand this correctly, I believe they're able to be open as long as they don't fall into those seven categories, but it's just a matter of a curbside pickup, correct for the smaller stores as well. 598 00:50:00,250 --> 00:50:06,890 Yeah, they can't claim they're doing it by science, but that's a bunch of below me. 599 00:50:07,550 --> 00:50:11,250 If one story can sell clothes, another story should be able sell clothes, too. 600 00:50:11,470 --> 00:50:14,090 If they can wear the mask, do the same code to call it the other one. 601 00:50:14,370 --> 00:50:15,190 It's just so the answer. 602 00:50:16,550 --> 00:50:17,530 I agree with you, Dave. 603 00:50:22,830 --> 00:50:24,990 Yeah, I think it's important, just in general. 604 00:50:25,230 --> 00:50:31,670 I mean, we're being absolutely obliterated here, you know, just in our own county economically, 605 00:50:31,670 --> 00:50:33,850 because of everything that's been going on. 606 00:50:33,990 --> 00:50:41,270 So the sooner we can open up, I think the better you do have other states that are opening up. 607 00:50:41,490 --> 00:50:47,170 So I would ask our state to be looking very closely at what those other states are doing. 608 00:50:48,090 --> 00:50:59,670 And seeing if we being a state in particular that has had very low numbers of COVID could be on that list too to start opening up a sooner than later. 609 00:50:59,670 --> 00:51:01,250 Any other comments? 610 00:51:02,530 --> 00:51:02,850 May I? 611 00:51:03,110 --> 00:51:03,330 Yeah. 612 00:51:03,470 --> 00:51:03,670 Yeah. 613 00:51:03,750 --> 00:51:03,990 Go ahead. 614 00:51:04,030 --> 00:51:05,050 May your pretend could pizble. 615 00:51:08,500 --> 00:51:09,060 Retailors. 616 00:51:09,340 --> 00:51:14,140 It seems like with the stage that it that has opened. 617 00:51:14,500 --> 00:51:17,100 Retailors can as long as it's on a pickup phases. 618 00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:18,980 So it's not discouraging. 619 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:27,040 It's not discouraging businesses from providing services where people can pick up their goods and have an exchange of funds. 620 00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:35,520 So, I guess we should be encouraging at phone call orders where people can pick them up and 621 00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:36,580 not have contact. 622 00:51:36,720 --> 00:51:42,080 Just encouraging businesses to have the practice of Northstrom's past this practice, not 623 00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:46,520 the Northstrom's sign up within our city, the Northstrom's practice, but the actual 624 00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:51,840 the Northstrom's in Mission VA House has an area where people can pull us and pick up 625 00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:52,440 their orders. 626 00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:59,100 So, it doesn't seem unreasonable to mention to clothing shops, as you want to open, very 627 00:51:59,100 --> 00:51:59,520 enough. 628 00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:03,960 Let's have some fair practices to do exactly what they're doing. 629 00:52:05,100 --> 00:52:16,900 Yeah, I would hope that in the light of everything going on that the way that an online website 630 00:52:16,900 --> 00:52:24,700 would offer its wears would be if there was an in store pickup available for those items 631 00:52:24,700 --> 00:52:29,380 because we know the just in time inventory, most stores don't carry a lot of inventory, 632 00:52:30,060 --> 00:52:34,300 most of the inventory is in a warehouse somewhere and it has to be shipped so that works 633 00:52:34,300 --> 00:52:39,300 to an extent but I guess if you're able to go online and see something that's actually in 634 00:52:39,300 --> 00:52:44,000 the store and pick it up but some of these smaller stores don't have that luxury so it 635 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:56,580 I can understand the frustration out there because it does seem like some of the larger companies have an advantage and there's not much difference except for the size of the company or the size of the actual space. 636 00:52:58,500 --> 00:52:58,680 Go ahead. 637 00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:04,100 The question is, yeah, the question is, how many small doors do we have? 638 00:53:04,220 --> 00:53:05,860 We have a mall that we shut down. 639 00:53:05,860 --> 00:53:12,400 So we have the van store that is small, but van's is related to, they have their corporate office. 640 00:53:13,100 --> 00:53:19,020 We have Marshall, Marshall is a large store, they can start practicing it, those guidelines. 641 00:53:19,580 --> 00:53:24,120 There are very limited stores within the city of Laguna Health that are closing shops, 642 00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,700 where they wouldn't be able to implement those practices in my opinion. 643 00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:32,880 So are you, I guess I'm a little confused as to the point you're making, 644 00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:36,680 because it sounds like phase two includes the ability to open up. 645 00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:38,540 Are you saying we should move beyond, 646 00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:40,940 in your opinion, we should move beyond, 647 00:53:41,380 --> 00:53:44,220 just doing a curbside pickup and go straight into having 648 00:53:44,220 --> 00:53:47,940 the stores open with maybe like COVID-19 protocol followed? 649 00:53:50,420 --> 00:53:54,920 No, I'm just saying that we right now, 650 00:53:55,080 --> 00:53:57,440 the store contracted the curbside pickup 651 00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:00,960 that people want to call us and create this order, 652 00:54:01,580 --> 00:54:03,640 it doesn't seem like there is anything preventing 653 00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:07,700 doors from doing that right now. That's my point. 654 00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,760 Not that I'm aware of, not that I'm aware of it. 655 00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:11,940 Not that I'm aware of it. 656 00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,560 It says regional troops in treatment have been delivered. 657 00:54:16,380 --> 00:54:19,580 I mean, it sounds like they can start selling product. 658 00:54:19,980 --> 00:54:21,740 We just need to start encouraging that. 659 00:54:21,820 --> 00:54:22,560 Got it. Okay. 660 00:54:22,620 --> 00:54:23,640 Thank you for your comments. 661 00:54:24,140 --> 00:54:25,500 Mr. Sedg, would you want to weigh in on this? 662 00:54:25,660 --> 00:54:27,260 Yeah. I think it's a joke. 663 00:54:28,700 --> 00:54:32,460 The beginnings of this stage to allow, you know, 664 00:54:32,460 --> 00:54:37,420 not essential retailers to do curbside pickup, but it's just, they've always been doing 665 00:54:37,420 --> 00:54:41,660 you know, online ordering and all this does is it just takes a step out of the process 666 00:54:41,660 --> 00:54:45,580 where somebody can then pick it up instead of have it delivered to them. This doesn't help 667 00:54:45,580 --> 00:54:51,240 the small retailers at all. People at a small boutique clothing, jewelry, whatever store people 668 00:54:51,240 --> 00:54:55,780 need to come and see the goods. So I'm just, you know, I'm frustrated by it. The question 669 00:54:55,780 --> 00:55:02,440 is really before us is, what are we talking about? I mean, what? You know, we're going to 670 00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:04,520 you know, what can we do? 671 00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:08,060 And there's really not, it doesn't sound like there's a whole lot, and we can do. 672 00:55:09,220 --> 00:55:14,940 But we can, like we're doing, right, a letter, as you had suggested, to the county, to 673 00:55:14,940 --> 00:55:22,420 to share our frustration and to encourage them to, to, to open up the economy more than 674 00:55:22,420 --> 00:55:27,920 they are, to take a real truthful next step forward, because the step that they've taken 675 00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,720 really isn't much of a step forward at all. 676 00:55:30,720 --> 00:55:36,420 and what we just want to see is we want to see progress and we'd like to see pressure put on the 677 00:55:36,420 --> 00:55:42,540 governor that we're not happy to let them know that our voice be heard that we're not happy with the 678 00:55:42,540 --> 00:55:48,220 steps that are being taken forward because they're really fairly inconsequential and we just want to 679 00:55:48,220 --> 00:55:54,180 see a little bit more of an aggressive fair opening and it's been pointed out that unfairness 680 00:55:54,180 --> 00:55:58,520 that it is you've got as was pointed out the large retailers were selling everything or 681 00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:03,700 are packed, and they wanted to let five people go into a small retailer who's selling clothes 682 00:56:03,700 --> 00:56:10,140 also, just like Walmart as who's packed. It just doesn't make any sense. What we can't 683 00:56:10,140 --> 00:56:14,880 as a city just, you know, defy everybody and put in place our own rules. So we just need 684 00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:19,480 to put pressure on the decision makers and let them know, do our part, letting them know 685 00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:27,480 that we're not happy and explaining why the steps that they're doing are inconsequential. 686 00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:30,940 So I think that's what we are, it's already on this, the 687 00:56:30,940 --> 00:56:35,160 docket for tonight and so I don't know, I don't think we need to 688 00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:36,520 blame everybody rest in this meeting. 689 00:56:37,240 --> 00:56:39,480 I don't think we need to blame for the rest of this meeting. 690 00:56:39,860 --> 00:56:41,380 I think we all share the same viewpoint on it. 691 00:56:41,720 --> 00:56:48,100 I could not, very more, I think when it comes down to it, some of the 692 00:56:48,100 --> 00:56:50,940 guidelines that have been set forth, I think, are very, very 693 00:56:50,940 --> 00:56:56,380 difficult to obtain and to achieve and I think those, we, we would 694 00:56:56,380 --> 00:57:03,020 as a state in general to look at those in a little bit more reasonable light. So I would 695 00:57:03,020 --> 00:57:08,020 agree with you, Councilman Sejwik, everything you said. Any of the comments? 696 00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:10,780 You need approval of the letter. 697 00:57:11,180 --> 00:57:15,440 Right, and you know, regarding the letter, you've had it for a couple of days. I do want 698 00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:19,460 to read one little portion that really stuck out to me, and I thought it was well written, 699 00:57:19,860 --> 00:57:25,600 and well presented. And I thought this really struck a nice balance between being too heavy 700 00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:30,920 handed and being too, you know, light. 701 00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:33,580 And that is the third paragraph fan. 702 00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:34,880 I'll just read it into the record. 703 00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:38,820 Our critical small businesses may not survive if restrictions 704 00:57:38,820 --> 00:57:40,760 may remain in place much longer. 705 00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:45,500 It is time to develop a plan to safely reopen our economy 706 00:57:45,500 --> 00:57:48,620 and start the recovery process from the economic 707 00:57:48,620 --> 00:57:51,280 and financial implications small businesses 708 00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:53,020 have unfortunately faced. 709 00:57:53,100 --> 00:57:55,480 And it sounds like our conversation tonight 710 00:57:55,480 --> 00:58:00,580 has been really a lot of surrounding small businesses because they do not have the advantages 711 00:58:00,580 --> 00:58:05,360 that the large wallmarks and the targets and the home depots have. 712 00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:14,960 So with that, I guess I would need a vote to adopt the letter as written. 713 00:58:15,940 --> 00:58:21,680 This point, I'd like to entertain a motion to go ahead and accept and approve the letter as 714 00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:25,120 to be able to present to the Board of Advisors. 715 00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:28,120 Okay, it's been moved by Councilman Gilbert. 716 00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:29,440 Do I have a second? 717 00:58:29,900 --> 00:58:30,360 Second. 718 00:58:31,460 --> 00:58:32,100 Every second. 719 00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:32,580 All right. 720 00:58:32,820 --> 00:58:33,440 It's been a second. 721 00:58:34,320 --> 00:58:35,400 There we can talk to discussion. 722 00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:36,000 Yes. 723 00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:39,780 It's been seconded by Councilman Sedgewick. 724 00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:40,240 All right. 725 00:58:40,340 --> 00:58:41,760 Let's open it up for discussion. 726 00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:42,340 Go ahead. 727 00:58:42,540 --> 00:58:43,620 Mayor for Tempaisled. 728 00:58:45,750 --> 00:58:45,930 Yes. 729 00:58:46,630 --> 00:58:52,310 I understand that the reason for having a letter, 730 00:58:52,310 --> 00:59:02,050 However, the question is, is the county doesn't seem, it seems like the county is trying to take all the steps to open the businesses. 731 00:59:02,590 --> 00:59:11,410 And they're trying to balance it as much as possible, and it seems like there's a lot of pay for access with the state and a lot of decisions. 732 00:59:11,410 --> 00:59:19,890 I don't know what this letter is going to obtain in a sense other than just saying something. 733 00:59:20,150 --> 00:59:24,190 I mean, we're basically saying something, but I don't know if the county disagrees. 734 00:59:24,390 --> 00:59:28,290 I don't think the county is saying we want to keep everything shut down. 735 00:59:28,970 --> 00:59:33,930 So my question is, what is this essentially doing? 736 00:59:35,390 --> 00:59:37,810 The way I see it is this is a letter of support. 737 00:59:37,810 --> 00:59:41,590 Yeah, go ahead, Councilman Gilbert, and then I'll keep my comments to last. 738 00:59:41,650 --> 00:59:47,970 Well, I think it just shows support, and that's what I think the county needs to stay 739 00:59:47,970 --> 00:59:54,350 from the cities is that they have a hundred percent support behind what they're trying to accomplish. 740 00:59:54,930 --> 00:59:58,470 Yeah, there's a tremendous amount of pressure. I would agree with that, Councilman Gilbert, 741 00:59:58,470 --> 00:59:59,970 on the county right now. 742 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:12,920 Now, and I've seen some of our fellow cities, writing letters and asking for these things, but also expressing their support and letting them know that, you know, we're behind them. 743 01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:21,900 We know that they're dealing with a lot of different things. There's a lot of moving parts to this and that we want to see it happen, but I think the letter was respectful. 744 01:00:21,900 --> 01:00:31,100 You know, I would be absolutely willing to sign it and stand behind it and so I'm definitely in favor of it. 745 01:00:31,900 --> 01:00:32,580 Any other comments? 746 01:00:37,320 --> 01:00:37,900 All right. 747 01:00:38,380 --> 01:00:41,360 Hearing none, let's bring this to a vote. 748 01:00:43,020 --> 01:00:45,400 We already have a motion in a second on the table. 749 01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:48,880 All in favor of accepting the letter and sending it to our Board of Supervisors. 750 01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:50,780 Say aye in the chambers. 751 01:00:51,620 --> 01:00:57,260 All right, and I'll do a phone vote at Councilman Wheeler. 752 01:00:59,260 --> 01:00:59,800 All right. 753 01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:00,140 All right. 754 01:01:00,420 --> 01:01:01,040 Councilman Gilbert. 755 01:01:02,900 --> 01:01:03,840 All right. 756 01:01:04,060 --> 01:01:04,880 Mayor Patent Hazel. 757 01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:08,680 All right. 758 01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:08,980 Great. 759 01:01:08,980 --> 01:01:09,560 Thank you so much. 760 01:01:09,740 --> 01:01:10,520 That passes unanimously. 761 01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:12,140 I really appreciate that. 762 01:01:14,330 --> 01:01:15,090 All right. 763 01:01:18,090 --> 01:01:21,650 We have item number 6.2 before us. 764 01:01:21,690 --> 01:01:26,390 I'm noting that we do have another public comment. 765 01:01:26,390 --> 01:01:33,570 Do we want to hold that before the item coming up that has to do with Rina or do we want to go ahead and have that now since they've been waiting? 766 01:01:33,970 --> 01:01:35,830 What's what's proper protocol? 767 01:01:36,490 --> 01:01:40,480 Well, we need to wait. 768 01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:42,320 Okay, she's been waiting a long time. 769 01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:42,780 So, okay. 770 01:01:43,460 --> 01:01:44,420 All right. 771 01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:44,760 All right. 772 01:01:54,540 --> 01:02:05,020 You could take it out of order and I would also say that given new information, we're pulling that item for a future meeting once 773 01:02:05,020 --> 01:02:21,340 I guess formally adopts the allocation, so there's no rush to make a decision on an appeal or not, so we're pulling that item, but if we have someone you could have them come and speak now. 774 01:02:21,340 --> 01:02:24,480 Okay, so with the agreement of my colleagues, 775 01:02:24,760 --> 01:02:35,320 we could go ahead and look at item number 6.3 in I guess 776 01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:38,460 in front of item 6.2. 777 01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:39,600 Do we have a problem with that? 778 01:02:39,600 --> 01:02:41,360 Because I do have a public comment here 779 01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:44,540 that has been resident who's been waiting 780 01:02:44,540 --> 01:02:45,420 for quite some time. 781 01:02:45,580 --> 01:02:46,280 Is that all right? 782 01:02:48,960 --> 01:02:51,740 Okay, hearing no opposition, yes? 783 01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:57,860 said fine fine okay thank you hearing no opposition go ahead if you'd like to come up 784 01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:05,720 and yes and okay so Robin you'll come see you already been up here and this is 785 01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:10,000 for peeling rena go ahead and give us your your comment I had no issues with 786 01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:18,900 waiting just like you know as it relates to the appeal of rena perhaps 787 01:03:21,780 --> 01:03:22,420 a normal 788 01:03:22,420 --> 01:03:29,060 circumstances, I may agree with staff not to fight rena numbers, given the odds. 789 01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:32,880 However, we no longer find ourselves in normal circumstances. 790 01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:39,300 If the state believes in its roadmap to recovery, it should reevaluate rena. 791 01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:43,300 Recent events have crippled the United States and its citizens. 792 01:03:44,120 --> 01:03:47,980 Some people are scared for their health, some are on the edge of economic ruin. 793 01:03:48,560 --> 01:03:59,360 I would be surprised if Malongaire partners is not trying to change their existing application and or submit a new application giving the state of affairs we all find ourselves in. 794 01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:08,200 With that said, in the wake of this pandemic, the City of Laguna Hills has a moral imperative to do what is in the best interest of its residents and businesses. 795 01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:15,780 And as such, while finding, while funding is critically low, it is recommended the city higher 796 01:04:15,780 --> 01:04:21,580 third party urban planners who are very well versed in resilient cities and truly planning 797 01:04:21,580 --> 01:04:23,640 for the future, not just tomorrow. 798 01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:31,880 The public health crisis is suffocating citizens with isolation, threatening them with potential 799 01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:37,080 removal from their homes, if they're unable to isolate there, an on top of this financial 800 01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:42,740 room whether they are sick or not. It is not my intent to criticize government for actions 801 01:04:42,740 --> 01:04:48,600 taking during this time of declared emergency. However, this crisis does call into question 802 01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:54,600 the resiliency of the state of California, as well as the path that is on, specifically with 803 01:04:54,600 --> 01:05:00,580 statewide renau numbers, as it did not and does not account for public health crises and or 804 01:05:00,580 --> 01:05:08,480 economic crisis of this magnitude. Furthermore, the allocation of needs to set in California 805 01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:14,960 and specifically Orange County has shown that our state, it has shown state governments 806 01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:22,080 reckless disregard for citizens and businesses here. Therefore, there is a clear need to evaluate 807 01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:28,820 the significance of how rena numbers, as well as how large developments will impact the health 808 01:05:28,820 --> 01:05:32,640 and while being of not only Laguna House residents, but our greater communities. 809 01:05:33,580 --> 01:05:39,760 In the wake of COVID-19 pandemic, we must re-evaluate resiliency of our cities. 810 01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:48,180 City Council, it would be wonderful if City Council could galvanize orange counties, 811 01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:52,060 34 cities, to fight Rina, and the Rina assessment. 812 01:05:52,820 --> 01:05:58,200 It is imperative not to use antiquated methodologies that were used for yesterday's cities, 813 01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:06,040 but modern methods that secure the health, safety, and economic well-being of not only tomorrow, but our future. 814 01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:11,240 And if the state believes in its resiliency road map, I would think that they would agree. 815 01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:13,100 Thank you. 816 01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:14,140 Thank you. 817 01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:15,040 Thank you, Mr. Chokums. 818 01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:17,300 I really appreciate your comments and staying here. 819 01:06:18,020 --> 01:06:23,660 Definitely a food for thought because we have a new normal, don't we, that we're all dealing with. 820 01:06:25,100 --> 01:06:35,600 All right, we will look at item 6.3, our community development director, Peel of the city's 821 01:06:35,600 --> 01:06:40,320 draft, regional housing needs assessment, which is renapped for the sixth cycle housing 822 01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:41,020 element. 823 01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:43,360 We're pulling that item. 824 01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:44,100 Oh, that's right. 825 01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:44,480 I'm sorry. 826 01:06:44,860 --> 01:06:45,100 Okay. 827 01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:49,900 We're pulling that item for now, but like I said, thank you for your comments, yes, definitely 828 01:06:49,900 --> 01:06:51,460 a lot to chew on. 829 01:06:51,460 --> 01:06:54,940 I'm going back to item number 6.2. 830 01:06:56,140 --> 01:06:56,620 Hold on. 831 01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:58,020 I'm a little confused. 832 01:06:58,320 --> 01:06:58,640 I'm sorry. 833 01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:00,460 631 is being pulled. 834 01:07:01,040 --> 01:07:01,640 Yeah. 835 01:07:01,660 --> 01:07:03,260 It's being pulled because there's more information. 836 01:07:04,100 --> 01:07:04,280 Okay. 837 01:07:05,820 --> 01:07:06,060 Okay. 838 01:07:06,540 --> 01:07:06,880 Thank you. 839 01:07:07,100 --> 01:07:07,280 Okay. 840 01:07:07,660 --> 01:07:07,920 All right. 841 01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:09,240 So moving back. 842 01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:10,200 Mayer. 843 01:07:10,500 --> 01:07:11,440 Just for clarification. 844 01:07:12,340 --> 01:07:14,200 The benefit of Councilmember Wheeler and the public. 845 01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:20,620 Item 6.3.1 entitled appeal of the city's draft regional housing needs assessment for the sixth 846 01:07:20,620 --> 01:07:25,840 cycle housing element is being taken off calendar this evening so that staff can go back and acquire 847 01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:30,740 additional information. Things are changing so rapidly at the state level with the COVID-19 848 01:07:30,740 --> 01:07:37,340 response. It's affecting many different agencies including Skag. It is our recommendation that 849 01:07:37,340 --> 01:07:41,400 the site and be taken off calendar at this time and be returned at a future date when more information 850 01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:47,900 has been obtained. This that's not an action item, right? This has been removed. All right. Great. Thank 851 01:07:47,900 --> 01:08:04,740 All right, now she's time. Ms. Ray is financial update fiscal year 2019 2020 year in projections and the recommendation is the City Council receive and file the financial update for the fiscal year 2019 2020 year in projections. 852 01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:05,640 All right, go ahead. 853 01:08:06,220 --> 01:08:08,440 Good evening, Madam Mayor. Members of the City Council. 854 01:08:08,440 --> 01:08:14,280 The COVID-19 crisis has caused seismic impacts to the economy. 855 01:08:15,020 --> 01:08:20,520 As a result, cities everywhere face severe revenue shortfalls, along with cuts to 856 01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:21,980 setting programs and operations. 857 01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:27,040 Staff conducted a review of the city's revenues and expenditures to provide a financial 858 01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:30,580 update of the current 2019-2020 fiscal year. 859 01:08:31,100 --> 01:08:36,620 Your projections were provided in four financial reports which were distributed as attachments 860 01:08:36,620 --> 01:08:40,720 to the staff report in the City Council agenda packet for tonight's meeting. 861 01:08:42,260 --> 01:08:47,140 Percibidus declines were reported for general fund revenues from sales tax, transient 862 01:08:47,140 --> 01:08:53,380 occupancy tax, recreation program fees, and development service fees, additionally adverse 863 01:08:53,380 --> 01:08:57,380 effects on special revenues are expected on gas tax as well. 864 01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:03,660 Sales tax is projected to come in at roughly 5 million or 17% under budget. 865 01:09:03,660 --> 01:09:10,640 This projection does not include the potential cash flow impacts of the 90-day payment extension 866 01:09:10,640 --> 01:09:13,700 program and the 12-month installment plan. 867 01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:23,020 The year-in estimate for TOT is about 1 million, a shortfall of 333,000 or 25% under budget, 868 01:09:23,660 --> 01:09:27,260 as high vacancies are expected in the final quarter of fiscal year. 869 01:09:28,180 --> 01:09:36,600 The year and estimate for recreation fee revenues is roughly 331,000 or 62% under budget. 870 01:09:37,260 --> 01:09:42,140 Given that all facility reservations, classes and events have been canceled or postponed, 871 01:09:42,780 --> 01:09:46,060 and it is uncertain when community center will reopen. 872 01:09:47,360 --> 01:09:53,900 Given we are likely in a deeper session and the historical decline in development activity from the last 873 01:09:53,900 --> 01:10:00,580 great recession. The year-in estimate for development service B revenues are roughly 1.1 million, 874 01:10:01,140 --> 01:10:03,040 or 12 percent below budget. 875 01:10:05,220 --> 01:10:09,820 However, while there are anticipated decline in these revenues, 876 01:10:10,180 --> 01:10:17,800 the year-in projection for property tax, which represents just over 50 percent of general fund revenues, 877 01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:25,160 remain relatively unmodified, given assess values for this fiscal year, were established 878 01:10:25,160 --> 01:10:32,140 on January 1st, 2019, and tax bills for this fiscal year have, for the most part, been 879 01:10:32,140 --> 01:10:34,220 paid through April 2020. 880 01:10:36,730 --> 01:10:41,370 City expenditures in the general fund operating department budgets and the capital improvement 881 01:10:41,370 --> 01:10:44,970 program experience cuts and adjustments as well. 882 01:10:44,970 --> 01:10:53,250 Total operating expenditure is expected to come in under budget by roughly 755,000. 883 01:10:53,370 --> 01:10:59,750 Predominantly due to reductions in community services programs, as well as declines in community development 884 01:10:59,750 --> 01:11:06,650 and community service activities, and a freeze on membership, training, and travel expenditures. 885 01:11:08,950 --> 01:11:13,110 CIPs are expected to come under budget by 350,000. 886 01:11:13,390 --> 01:11:21,690 Notably, the deferment of CIPs funded by the general fund reduced general fund expenditures by roughly 150,000. 887 01:11:22,790 --> 01:11:28,810 In summary, it is expected that total revenue will be short by roughly 2,000. 888 01:11:28,810 --> 01:11:37,270 This shortfall is partially offset by the expected reduction in total expenditures of about 1.2 million. 889 01:11:38,250 --> 01:11:44,830 The overall anticipated result will be a decrease in total fund balance of over 800,000. 890 01:11:45,870 --> 01:11:47,970 More than what was budgeted. 891 01:11:47,970 --> 01:11:55,970 The good news is the city began the 2019-2020 fiscal year in a strong financial health. 892 01:11:56,790 --> 01:12:02,990 With a beginning, total fund balance of almost 900,000 above what was budgeted. 893 01:12:03,230 --> 01:12:11,270 This positive variance in beginning fund balance completely offsets the projected excess decline in fund balance. 894 01:12:11,270 --> 01:12:18,250 Hence, despite ending the fiscal year with an excess deficient, it is expected that the 895 01:12:18,250 --> 01:12:25,170 ending total fund balance will have a positive variance and excess fund balance of 83,000 896 01:12:25,170 --> 01:12:26,550 over what was budget. 897 01:12:28,720 --> 01:12:34,160 Staff anticipates, meeting its target fund balance policy ratios at year end. 898 01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:42,080 The unrestricted general fund policy target ratio is 35%, which staff anticipates exceeding 899 01:12:44,420 --> 01:12:52,360 The NSINE general fund policy target ratio is 25% which staff projects succeed at 32%. 900 01:12:53,440 --> 01:13:02,200 The operating reserve target ratio of 1.1 to 1 operator is expected to be met at 1.09 901 01:13:02,200 --> 01:13:07,140 before that service and at 1 after that service. 902 01:13:07,980 --> 01:13:15,400 It is certain that the economic impacts of COVID-19 will continue to affect the following fiscal year as well. 903 01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:28,240 Therefore, as the city manager previously mentioned, at the June 9th City Council meeting, staff will be presenting recommended budget cuts to the next 2020-2021 fiscal year. 904 01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:29,780 And that concludes my report. 905 01:13:30,700 --> 01:13:32,360 Thank you very much, Ms. Reyes. 906 01:13:33,460 --> 01:13:42,080 Do we have any questions from any of our council members here or via phone for Ms. Reyes? 907 01:13:46,980 --> 01:13:48,620 All right, hearing none. 908 01:13:49,300 --> 01:13:52,520 Thank you very much for your presentation. 909 01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:57,440 So we need to vote on moving steps. 910 01:13:59,120 --> 01:13:59,940 Okay, receive. 911 01:13:59,940 --> 01:14:06,680 Okay, so I'd like to entertain a motion to receive and file the financial update. 912 01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:07,960 Yeah, so much. 913 01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:09,120 All right, thank you, Ms. Gilbert. 914 01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:10,940 I'll make a motion about that. 915 01:14:11,900 --> 01:14:12,620 Back at. 916 01:14:12,620 --> 01:14:15,320 All right, seconded by Mayor Pertem Pazild. 917 01:14:16,140 --> 01:14:18,940 All in favor of the Council, Chamber say aye. 918 01:14:20,100 --> 01:14:20,420 Aye. 919 01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:23,280 Councilman Gilbert. 920 01:14:26,090 --> 01:14:26,750 Councilman Wheeler. 921 01:14:29,480 --> 01:14:29,520 Aye. 922 01:14:30,300 --> 01:14:31,540 Mayor Pertem Pazild. 923 01:14:33,560 --> 01:14:33,620 Aye. 924 01:14:33,620 --> 01:14:35,640 All right. Thank you. That passes unanimously. 925 01:14:37,740 --> 01:14:59,960 All right. We have our last item on our agenda and this is item 6.4 our deputy city manager Dave Reynolds and our community services director and I think it's important to note that we did have a hot memo item. 926 01:15:00,460 --> 01:15:08,560 That made some changes, so that's going to be something that will influence us. Go ahead, Mr. Reynolds. 927 01:15:09,500 --> 01:15:16,060 Sure. Madam Mayor and members of the city council, tonight we're going to be discussing the Fourth of July event. 928 01:15:17,120 --> 01:15:25,340 And our city manager, Mr. White, did a great job of summarizing the Governor's pandemic road map. 929 01:15:25,340 --> 01:15:28,520 So I don't need to go over that. 930 01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:36,600 I just would like to emphasize that the current governor's orders still prohibit the gathering 931 01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:45,760 of large events, and this prohibition most likely will continue for months to follow, and 932 01:15:45,760 --> 01:15:50,740 the Fourth of July event most assuredly falls into a large gathering. 933 01:15:50,740 --> 01:15:56,440 As historically we've seen from 7,000 to 10,000 people attend. 934 01:15:57,320 --> 01:15:58,960 It's a great event. 935 01:16:00,220 --> 01:16:01,880 We love hosting it. 936 01:16:02,020 --> 01:16:02,920 Recreation staff. 937 01:16:03,220 --> 01:16:05,420 It's one of our favorite events. 938 01:16:07,710 --> 01:16:15,230 But we're faced with a difficult decision tonight and a discussion of the event. 939 01:16:16,790 --> 01:16:21,790 Before I go, I would like to say that we are disappointed in the state of affairs that we 940 01:16:21,790 --> 01:16:31,550 But we understand the importance of public safety and welfare and aligning with the state's social distancing directive. 941 01:16:33,070 --> 01:16:37,150 With that said, we present two options in the staff report. 942 01:16:37,890 --> 01:16:50,630 Option one is to cancel the Fourth of July event in its entirety and to not execute the 2020 agreement with fireworks America for a fireworks show. 943 01:16:50,630 --> 01:16:58,130 This is staff's recommendation and there are several reasons why we recommend this. 944 01:16:58,730 --> 01:17:04,550 Number one, we just heard from our finance director who did a great job summarizing our 945 01:17:04,550 --> 01:17:05,310 city's finances. 946 01:17:06,970 --> 01:17:13,750 And we would like to dampen the impact of COVID-19 and the coronavirus pandemic on the city. 947 01:17:14,850 --> 01:17:21,490 So we recommend that we don't have the event nor do we have the firework show, and this 948 01:17:21,490 --> 01:17:26,790 would save in this current budget cycle, 56,460 dollars. 949 01:17:28,150 --> 01:17:34,310 Also we can't get around the current order for social distancing and how we would get around 950 01:17:34,310 --> 01:17:42,870 that if we hosted event or if we hosted a firework show only where individuals are encouraged 951 01:17:42,870 --> 01:17:44,890 to wash the show from home. 952 01:17:46,750 --> 01:17:53,130 We have been keeping track of what other cities are doing, and I provided a list, a table 953 01:17:53,130 --> 01:18:00,470 on the staff report that lists the plans, the status of where the cities are in terms of 954 01:18:00,470 --> 01:18:01,090 their shows. 955 01:18:01,830 --> 01:18:07,390 I just got a text from staff at Laguna Beach, and the Council did, approved to Council 956 01:18:07,390 --> 01:18:11,950 of the Fourth of July event, and their fireworks show, and there are others that are considering 957 01:18:11,950 --> 01:18:14,010 this in the weeks to come. 958 01:18:16,360 --> 01:18:20,880 Option two in staff report in the staff report is to execute an agreement 959 01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:29,260 with fireworks America for a fireworks show only where staff recommends the public would be encouraged 960 01:18:29,260 --> 01:18:37,180 to watch it from their home because again we are not encouraging in line with the governor's orders 961 01:18:37,180 --> 01:18:38,860 any public gatherings. 962 01:18:41,380 --> 01:18:45,140 To lead up to this we understand the importance of the consideration of 963 01:18:45,140 --> 01:18:50,260 firework show, so we worked in spirit of the letter that we received from Fireworks America 964 01:18:50,260 --> 01:18:59,820 dated April 16th, 2020, in which staff negotiated terms with Fireworks America, and we worked 965 01:18:59,820 --> 01:19:06,520 with the city's attorney's office to roll these terms in to the contract, and that contract 966 01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:12,160 is attached to the staff report, in essence what we negotiated in the spirit of the letter 967 01:19:12,160 --> 01:19:16,200 that we received was fireworks America recognized 968 01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:18,360 the financial situation that cities are in. 969 01:19:18,700 --> 01:19:22,780 So they reduced the deposit that's owed upon contract signing 970 01:19:23,140 --> 01:19:26,760 down to 25% which is roughly $6600. 971 01:19:28,580 --> 01:19:33,100 They also, the other term was to assure the city 972 01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:37,860 that we can cancel the show and postpone it 973 01:19:37,860 --> 01:19:41,360 to a future date up to labor day 2021 974 01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:50,300 or September 6, 2021, and fireworks America would retain the deposit and we would pay 975 01:19:50,300 --> 01:19:56,860 you the balance of the show upon the date that we fire it. I think it's 10 days or so 976 01:19:56,860 --> 01:20:05,920 after the fireworks show is fired, the balance is due. However, if we don't move on any 977 01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:13,480 our work show after the deadline of September 6th, 2021, then this city would forfeit that 978 01:20:13,480 --> 01:20:14,860 25% deposit. 979 01:20:15,940 --> 01:20:22,120 We worked feverously on the contract negotiations and I felt that we had everything under 980 01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:29,560 wraps and so the agenda was posted and published and then I heard from fireworks America 981 01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:37,680 I believe are pressed and are in a heart shape, too, with the clients that they serve, and many 982 01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:46,780 changes occurring across the municipality landscape. They felt uncomfortable of not having any 983 01:20:46,780 --> 01:20:54,360 notification prior to the Fourth of July to not be able to recoup cost. 984 01:20:56,930 --> 01:20:59,210 So this is explained in the 985 01:20:59,210 --> 01:21:05,830 A lot of envelope item that was distributed to you, that Mayor Heft spoke to, and I believe 986 01:21:05,830 --> 01:21:12,650 that our city attorney had a direct salmonian perfectly summarized that objective of fireworks 987 01:21:12,650 --> 01:21:16,550 America to go back and revise the contract. 988 01:21:17,430 --> 01:21:22,270 And he writes that the fireworks vendor now wants monetary penalties to be imposed if the 989 01:21:22,270 --> 01:21:25,710 city is forced to cancel the July 4th, 2020 show. 990 01:21:25,710 --> 01:21:33,790 Due to COVID-19 related reasons, on less than 50 days, 15 days notice, in addition, they 991 01:21:33,790 --> 01:21:41,490 will retain the 25% deposit, or the 6,625 dollars, and this deposit will carry over 992 01:21:41,490 --> 01:21:43,690 into the rescheduled show. 993 01:21:44,690 --> 01:21:51,370 And this rescheduled show can be scheduled out as late as September 6, 2021. 994 01:21:51,370 --> 01:21:58,510 Now, if it's the city's desire to pursue option two in the staff report, I must direct you 995 01:21:58,510 --> 01:22:05,190 to the motion of the hot envelope item and the memo dated May 9th, 2021. 996 01:22:05,910 --> 01:22:10,650 That would be the motion that the city council would need to make to quickly articulate 997 01:22:11,470 --> 01:22:18,010 what staff in the city's office would need to do for contract negotiations with fireworks 998 01:22:18,010 --> 01:22:21,770 America to make a firework show only happen. 999 01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:28,580 That is my staff presentation and I'd be happy to answer any questions. 1000 01:22:28,780 --> 01:22:34,060 I would like, as Mr. Rosenfield did, I would like to give a shout out to Dan Mehan. 1001 01:22:34,780 --> 01:22:35,920 He's on the line too. 1002 01:22:36,440 --> 01:22:38,940 He holds this stuff very dear and dear to his heart. 1003 01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:45,000 He also wanted to listen to Mr. White's conversations and related to COVID-19 and the 1004 01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:45,760 emergency ordinance. 1005 01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:48,040 So, I'm going to see order, rather. 1006 01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:50,760 So, I just wanted to give out the shout-outs in Mr. Mehan. 1007 01:22:51,420 --> 01:22:53,900 With that, I'd be happy to take any questions that you might have. 1008 01:22:54,780 --> 01:22:55,880 All right, do you need any questions? 1009 01:22:56,700 --> 01:22:57,120 Yes. 1010 01:22:57,280 --> 01:22:58,560 The Councilman, Governor, you have a question? 1011 01:23:00,690 --> 01:23:01,090 No. 1012 01:23:01,390 --> 01:23:03,850 I would like to support option one. 1013 01:23:04,890 --> 01:23:05,070 Okay. 1014 01:23:06,330 --> 01:23:06,670 All right. 1015 01:23:07,210 --> 01:23:09,670 Do we have any other comments? 1016 01:23:12,820 --> 01:23:12,960 All right. 1017 01:23:14,180 --> 01:23:15,680 Councilman, Councilman Sejwik. 1018 01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:17,040 Just a moment. 1019 01:23:17,040 --> 01:23:18,600 Mayor Prism Pizzled. 1020 01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:23,240 Thank you for that report and presentation. 1021 01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:30,180 I was wondering if, well, first of all, let me say that I'm not in, a couple things 1022 01:23:30,180 --> 01:23:31,820 that I'm personally not interested in. 1023 01:23:32,120 --> 01:23:35,420 I'm not interested in doing a 4th of July celebration in August or September. 1024 01:23:35,620 --> 01:23:38,660 I think the 4th of July 4th of July and we might miss it this year. 1025 01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:39,960 We might miss it this year. 1026 01:23:40,340 --> 01:23:40,540 We might miss it. 1027 01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:46,320 But, yeah, but I'm also not interested in 1028 01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:54,120 growing money, if it's unlikely that we're going to get permission to do this, given the 1029 01:23:54,120 --> 01:24:01,880 state that we're in financially, I don't want to lose money on deposits, nor on the 1030 01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:06,320 extra money that they're now asking for in addition to the deposit. I just don't, I don't 1031 01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:16,300 think it's worth the risk. However, I wondered if we didn't, if we just, you know, postponing 1032 01:24:16,300 --> 01:24:24,240 it for a couple more weeks and just because things change on a day-to-day basis, what happened 1033 01:24:24,240 --> 01:24:28,780 if, you know, are they saying that you got to decide now because we need, you know, this 1034 01:24:28,780 --> 01:24:35,420 much time in order to order our supplies for the firework show, could we just sit on it 1035 01:24:35,420 --> 01:24:36,320 for a couple of weeks? 1036 01:24:38,020 --> 01:24:45,640 Madam Mayor, members of the City Council, the answer is, I don't know, what I can say and 1037 01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:52,020 What I do know is the letter that we received dated April 16th, where they offered their 1038 01:24:52,020 --> 01:24:59,460 clients this 50% discount in the deposit had a deadline of April 1st because I'm sorry. 1039 01:25:00,020 --> 01:25:00,780 May 1st. 1040 01:25:00,780 --> 01:25:01,280 May 1st. 1041 01:25:01,500 --> 01:25:03,480 Thank you. 1042 01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:09,240 Hey, being in this council chambers is bizarre, so we lose sense of time too. 1043 01:25:13,640 --> 01:25:19,880 So, in our conversations with Fireworks America, I apologize council member Gilbert. 1044 01:25:21,580 --> 01:25:25,620 We knew that they had the deadline of May 1st because they had to set up for resources. 1045 01:25:26,740 --> 01:25:30,280 They can program the show for 4th of July to be synchronized to music. 1046 01:25:31,220 --> 01:25:35,300 That's a labor intensive effort for programming. 1047 01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:43,480 But in our negotiations with fireworks America, they agreed that, okay, the drop dead date is May 12th 1048 01:25:43,480 --> 01:25:45,240 so that we can gear up for the Fourth of July. 1049 01:25:45,980 --> 01:25:47,380 That's what I do know. 1050 01:25:47,420 --> 01:25:47,740 Okay. 1051 01:25:47,960 --> 01:25:53,000 What I don't know is if they would want business and we could defer it. 1052 01:25:53,320 --> 01:25:59,500 Well, I think that they could easily pull a synchronized program from a year, a year's 1053 01:25:59,500 --> 01:26:03,820 past and just put it on if they, you know, without having to, I don't think we need. 1054 01:26:03,820 --> 01:26:12,880 If we were to somehow get, you know, the latitude from the state to be able to handle some things and sort of fireworks, 1055 01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:17,280 I don't think we would agree. We don't need to do any of the other activities that happen. 1056 01:26:17,380 --> 01:26:18,900 We can limit it to just a fireworks show. 1057 01:26:20,500 --> 01:26:26,780 I don't think that the community would support being able to look out their backyard and be able to try to see it. 1058 01:26:26,780 --> 01:26:30,780 I'll just watch it on TV, I mean, to me that's not money well spent. 1059 01:26:31,340 --> 01:26:34,980 I would say, if we can see it, we can see it. 1060 01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:36,620 Hold on just second half. 1061 01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:38,380 I wouldn't do it. 1062 01:26:38,540 --> 01:26:39,740 And I think we just take our chances. 1063 01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:45,880 Sit on it, and if they cancel it on us fine, but if they don't, we just wait a couple of weeks 1064 01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:51,000 and see if something changes, and maybe we won't be able to find somebody to put it on, 1065 01:26:51,100 --> 01:26:53,420 given a short timeframe, or maybe we could. 1066 01:26:53,420 --> 01:26:57,840 If we're, you know, June 1st, we've realized that we would be able to do this. 1067 01:26:58,460 --> 01:26:59,760 We could scramble and see if we can. 1068 01:26:59,960 --> 01:27:02,520 We realize the risks that we may not be able to. 1069 01:27:02,520 --> 01:27:05,620 We understand that, but we're not ready to, I mean, personally, 1070 01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:13,080 I'm not ready to put out money on the slight chance it would be able to do this at this point. 1071 01:27:13,580 --> 01:27:20,340 I would echo Mr. Sedgwick's comments in that every single day, things are changing. 1072 01:27:20,340 --> 01:27:30,780 We're getting more information, we're finding out new statistics and at this point I don't think we need to be in a hurry to make a decision tonight 1073 01:27:30,780 --> 01:27:43,550 We will still have over a month left over once we hit our May 26 meeting and in terms of our options I think we would want to leave them open 1074 01:27:43,550 --> 01:27:50,210 And, you know, just real quickly, what does the Fourth of July mean? 1075 01:27:50,270 --> 01:27:51,330 It means freedom. 1076 01:27:51,550 --> 01:27:56,710 It means being able to celebrate something, looking at the red, white, and blue, beautiful 1077 01:27:56,710 --> 01:27:57,370 bumps. 1078 01:27:57,650 --> 01:27:58,390 We're seeing a mid-air. 1079 01:27:59,130 --> 01:28:00,070 Yeah, just a moment. 1080 01:28:00,370 --> 01:28:00,650 Mayer? 1081 01:28:01,350 --> 01:28:01,610 Mayer? 1082 01:28:01,610 --> 01:28:01,970 You have. 1083 01:28:02,470 --> 01:28:02,630 Mayer. 1084 01:28:03,230 --> 01:28:03,270 Mayer. 1085 01:28:03,270 --> 01:28:03,410 Mayer. 1086 01:28:03,410 --> 01:28:03,430 Mayer. 1087 01:28:07,170 --> 01:28:07,650 Mayer. 1088 01:28:07,650 --> 01:28:11,070 I will be finished with my comments, so I just want to make just a comment. 1089 01:28:11,230 --> 01:28:15,850 I've been listening to everyone and I'd appreciate the same courtesy my way, thank you. 1090 01:28:17,570 --> 01:28:22,890 I think that we've seen and we've heard that people are beaten down, there's domestic violence 1091 01:28:22,890 --> 01:28:28,790 on the rise, there's suicide on the rise, depression, just a lot of things, and if there 1092 01:28:28,790 --> 01:28:34,890 was a way in the future to be able to save for the July, somehow, some way I would be in 1093 01:28:34,890 --> 01:28:41,890 of that, but I would be in favor tonight of tabling this and seeing what happens in 14 days 1094 01:28:41,890 --> 01:28:51,090 and we can look at it then. I'd like to entertain a substitute motion to do that, so we have 1095 01:28:51,090 --> 01:28:52,650 more time to see what happens. 1096 01:28:53,550 --> 01:28:55,450 Yes, go ahead. I'm Councilman Gilbert. 1097 01:28:57,310 --> 01:29:01,370 Thank you. There is no way we are going to have 1098 01:29:03,610 --> 01:29:04,830 it. It's just 1099 01:29:19,390 --> 01:29:20,490 not to gather people. 1100 01:29:32,040 --> 01:29:38,260 I don't I don't see a down side. I don't I don't see a down side and waiting I'm not done 1101 01:29:38,920 --> 01:29:54,860 I'm not done. I wasn't in and also there's no way we can have a firework show with people watching their backyards because that number is going to be a very small number of people and we're going to help that will be able to see that. So that's really that should even be 1102 01:30:00,020 --> 01:30:06,240 On this, from a financial standpoint, and if we do save money voting, 1103 01:30:09,260 --> 01:30:17,660 not have the force that your life celebration, tonight, we should do it, if it's going to cost us money to wait two weeks and do it. 1104 01:30:19,480 --> 01:30:25,220 All right, I'd like to go ahead, Mayor Pertemp Hazel, and then I have a question for Mr. 1105 01:30:25,500 --> 01:30:26,240 Summonian. 1106 01:30:26,400 --> 01:30:27,420 Go ahead. 1107 01:30:30,820 --> 01:30:40,580 What we're dealing with, professional football, baseball, hockey, soccer, they're all 1108 01:30:40,580 --> 01:30:41,660 closing down. 1109 01:30:41,660 --> 01:30:50,160 People are not gathering, it is not, it is irresponsible for us as a city to encourage 1110 01:30:50,160 --> 01:30:55,860 gathering of large crowds. And that's what will happen. People want to gather to the locations 1111 01:30:55,860 --> 01:31:04,700 where they can use a firework. So it is not responsible for us as leaders to use our 1112 01:31:04,700 --> 01:31:14,580 tax dollars to encourage that. At this time I love firework. It's my favorite event. And this 1113 01:31:14,580 --> 01:31:19,800 It was very hard for me to talk about this, but I agree with council member Gilbert. 1114 01:31:20,100 --> 01:31:24,580 It is not responsible for us at this time, city, lagoon and a yell. 1115 01:31:24,760 --> 01:31:31,260 I just spoke to a number of different city council members and they have pamphled everything. 1116 01:31:32,780 --> 01:31:40,020 And I don't know why we, after we received the financial report of how much money we have 1117 01:31:40,020 --> 01:31:52,620 And the impact, the grave impact, why we would have firework when we have a lot bigger issues to deal with. 1118 01:31:52,820 --> 01:32:00,460 I would like to focus our time on trying to find tools to get people back to work. 1119 01:32:01,660 --> 01:32:07,260 So that's, we have, we have, we have the, all right, thank you. 1120 01:32:07,560 --> 01:32:09,660 All right, Mr. Wheeler, do you have any comments? 1121 01:32:11,300 --> 01:32:12,680 On this, since everyone else is waiting? 1122 01:32:13,220 --> 01:32:15,020 No, I do. 1123 01:32:15,640 --> 01:32:17,480 Okay, all right, thank you. 1124 01:32:17,540 --> 01:32:20,660 All right, I'd like to entertain a motion. 1125 01:32:22,000 --> 01:32:27,480 At this point, which is the third option, just a table this, and if so be it, 1126 01:32:27,480 --> 01:32:32,000 That's what ends up happening down the road and nothing has changed. 1127 01:32:32,880 --> 01:32:37,340 Then we can easily do what we would be doing tonight and that would be voting on it. 1128 01:32:37,480 --> 01:32:42,120 I'd like to make the motion to table this until the 26th. Do I have a second? 1129 01:32:42,520 --> 01:32:42,740 Oh, sorry. 1130 01:32:43,340 --> 01:32:46,400 All right. I have a motion and I have a second. 1131 01:32:47,380 --> 01:32:49,060 All in favor of that say aye. 1132 01:32:49,380 --> 01:32:50,540 I do. 1133 01:32:50,540 --> 01:32:50,900 I do. 1134 01:32:51,600 --> 01:32:52,740 I'm going to. 1135 01:32:52,900 --> 01:32:54,680 I'm sorry. What was that? 1136 01:32:55,460 --> 01:33:00,580 Yeah hold on I got to do this you have a comment before we vote 1137 01:33:02,120 --> 01:33:04,240 Yes, yeah, okay, go ahead, please 1138 01:33:05,900 --> 01:33:09,840 The question is simple will it cost us anything to table 1139 01:33:13,030 --> 01:33:15,010 Actually that was what I wanted to ask 1140 01:33:15,810 --> 01:33:26,370 Okay, hold on hold on everybody. It's hard to hear I was gonna ask Mr. Simone and to since he's the one who would be negotiating involved in that is that something that 1141 01:33:31,820 --> 01:33:41,840 And so is that something that would negatively influence us financially by waiting two weeks, or at this point, is that open to us? 1142 01:33:41,900 --> 01:33:51,920 I would think that there could be other possible companies out there, if somehow that were the decision that did get made, that would be jumping at the chance in light of the economic development. 1143 01:33:54,840 --> 01:33:58,920 Thank you, Mayor, members of the Council to echo Mr. Reynolds comment tonight. 1144 01:33:59,400 --> 01:34:04,380 The answer to that question is, I don't know. As we sit here this evening, we have already 1145 01:34:04,380 --> 01:34:08,780 blown fireworks America's deadline to get a response back to them. They wanted an answer 1146 01:34:08,780 --> 01:34:15,760 back by May 1st. It took this long to get to Council. They negotiated terms and conditions 1147 01:34:15,760 --> 01:34:20,760 with city staff. We typed up the contract as soon as we published the contract in the agenda 1148 01:34:20,760 --> 01:34:26,340 the fireworks America yet again, changed the terms and conditions, issued new demands to ensure 1149 01:34:26,340 --> 01:34:32,960 that the city had monetary penalties imposed, should there be an early and late cancellation 1150 01:34:32,960 --> 01:34:37,500 of the fireworks show due to COVID-19-related reasons? 1151 01:34:38,580 --> 01:34:43,300 Is it possible that if you tabled it and took no action that fireworks America would once again 1152 01:34:43,300 --> 01:34:47,960 change the terms and conditions and increase the penalties or increase the cost of the 1153 01:34:47,960 --> 01:34:48,480 show? 1154 01:34:48,480 --> 01:34:55,620 That's a possibility. I'm sure probably unlikely at this point, but based on the way they've conducted themselves so far 1155 01:34:55,620 --> 01:35:02,700 I don't believe myself or Mr Reynolds can answer that question. We just don't know what they would do if we went back to them and told them 1156 01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:07,240 This item has been continued for further discussion and deliberation on May 26 1157 01:35:07,940 --> 01:35:10,900 Well, considering the motion. 1158 01:35:11,420 --> 01:35:15,480 Yeah. No, we already have a motion on the floor. 1159 01:35:16,500 --> 01:35:18,200 Substitute motion for it. 1160 01:35:18,380 --> 01:35:20,700 No, he has allowed to. 1161 01:35:20,900 --> 01:35:22,320 I don't think he can access to your motion. 1162 01:35:22,400 --> 01:35:23,840 During May, I've got to go first. 1163 01:35:23,980 --> 01:35:25,400 Oh, okay. 1164 01:35:25,760 --> 01:35:26,160 Hold on. 1165 01:35:26,340 --> 01:35:27,300 One person in time. 1166 01:35:27,480 --> 01:35:28,120 I believe Mr. 1167 01:35:28,360 --> 01:35:29,000 I'm here. 1168 01:35:30,300 --> 01:35:30,780 I'm here. 1169 01:35:30,780 --> 01:35:30,840 I'm here. 1170 01:35:31,260 --> 01:35:31,940 My question. 1171 01:35:32,820 --> 01:35:34,220 One of they change the contract. 1172 01:35:34,500 --> 01:35:35,900 More penalties are higher for us. 1173 01:35:35,900 --> 01:35:37,620 if they're going to double price, would we wait to wait? 1174 01:35:37,960 --> 01:35:41,540 If we wait two weeks, we would cost a zero if we say no. 1175 01:35:41,920 --> 01:35:43,120 We wouldn't want to have the three things out. 1176 01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:44,720 We don't know. 1177 01:35:45,800 --> 01:35:47,400 How could they charge us properly? 1178 01:35:48,100 --> 01:35:49,640 I don't understand how we can be held out. 1179 01:35:49,980 --> 01:35:51,060 Are they going to charge us or not? 1180 01:35:51,540 --> 01:35:52,340 We don't want to have that happen. 1181 01:35:52,740 --> 01:35:53,440 They wouldn't agree with anything. 1182 01:35:54,060 --> 01:35:55,140 Madam Mayor, for me? 1183 01:35:55,360 --> 01:35:56,060 Yes, please. 1184 01:35:56,940 --> 01:35:58,300 The Chancellor, Councillor Miller. 1185 01:35:59,340 --> 01:36:01,260 We're currently not imposing any costs. 1186 01:36:01,440 --> 01:36:04,340 We're not being charged for anything to negotiate with firework America. 1187 01:36:04,960 --> 01:36:07,880 The city is not spending any money on this negotiation. 1188 01:36:08,380 --> 01:36:10,960 We do not have a current contract with fireworks America. 1189 01:36:11,520 --> 01:36:14,040 There is no fireworks show, there is no fireworks event. 1190 01:36:14,220 --> 01:36:16,720 We have no contract with fireworks America this time. 1191 01:36:16,760 --> 01:36:17,560 We haven't spent a penny. 1192 01:36:17,660 --> 01:36:18,440 We haven't spent a penny. 1193 01:36:18,480 --> 01:36:23,200 What we're talking about is, does the city wish to enter into a new contract 1194 01:36:23,200 --> 01:36:26,440 with fireworks America for the July 4th 2020 show? 1195 01:36:26,960 --> 01:36:27,700 Yes or no. 1196 01:36:28,100 --> 01:36:30,280 And the only option in the third option is the mayor is 1197 01:36:30,280 --> 01:36:33,620 correctly articulated is to take no action at this time 1198 01:36:33,620 --> 01:36:37,500 wait and see what the governor does, wait and see what the state of California does, see 1199 01:36:37,500 --> 01:36:43,580 where we're at 14 days from now and bring this item back for further discussion and deliberation 1200 01:36:43,580 --> 01:36:44,880 at that time. 1201 01:36:45,700 --> 01:36:50,660 All right, I believe, thank you, Mr. Smoney. I believe there was a substitute motion, Mr. Gilbert. 1202 01:36:52,520 --> 01:37:01,010 Yeah, my motion would be to not have the fireworks show and vote now. 1203 01:37:02,090 --> 01:37:03,690 All right, it's moved. Do I have a second? 1204 01:37:06,780 --> 01:37:10,580 Okay, it's been moved and seconded, and how do we take Mr. 1205 01:37:10,720 --> 01:37:12,660 Smooney and Robert's rules of order? 1206 01:37:13,060 --> 01:37:16,120 Protocol, how do we take motions that are on the table? 1207 01:37:17,260 --> 01:37:17,440 Yes. 1208 01:37:18,400 --> 01:37:25,040 So you have a properly formatted underlying motion by Council Member Heft and seconded by Council Member 1209 01:37:25,040 --> 01:37:29,780 Sejwik, which is to table the item until May 26 and bring it back. 1210 01:37:30,300 --> 01:37:35,040 You now have a substitute motion properly formatted with a motion by Council Member Gilbert 1211 01:37:35,040 --> 01:37:40,020 Seconded by Mayor Protempazel, according to Council policy and established protocol, it's 1212 01:37:40,020 --> 01:37:43,680 appropriate at this time to rule on the substitute motion and to call for a vote. 1213 01:37:44,840 --> 01:37:44,860 All right. 1214 01:37:45,440 --> 01:37:53,000 So the substitute motion has been read into the record by Mr. Simone and all in favor. 1215 01:37:54,160 --> 01:37:57,600 Do we have any discussion on that substitute motion? 1216 01:37:57,720 --> 01:38:01,560 I think we've right been kind of talking about that. 1217 01:38:01,960 --> 01:38:03,920 Is there any discussion on that substitute motion? 1218 01:38:05,500 --> 01:38:10,900 All right, hearing none, I will call for a vote in the chambers. 1219 01:38:11,180 --> 01:38:12,220 My vote is no. 1220 01:38:13,660 --> 01:38:16,080 All right, I have two notes in the chambers. 1221 01:38:17,080 --> 01:38:18,040 Mayor Patent Paisal. 1222 01:38:27,290 --> 01:38:29,150 Sorry, it cut out. 1223 01:38:29,750 --> 01:38:32,550 Okay, I'm going to ask for your vote on the substitute motion. 1224 01:38:32,750 --> 01:38:33,810 They count some in. 1225 01:38:34,030 --> 01:38:35,770 Gilbert is putting forth. 1226 01:38:36,570 --> 01:38:40,030 There's there you have a you have two notes from here in the chambers. 1227 01:38:40,230 --> 01:38:40,870 What is your vote? 1228 01:38:42,150 --> 01:38:47,130 My vote is to support council member Gilbert. 1229 01:38:47,730 --> 01:38:47,990 Yes. 1230 01:38:47,990 --> 01:38:49,410 So that's a yes. 1231 01:38:49,950 --> 01:38:50,130 All right. 1232 01:38:50,250 --> 01:38:51,050 Councilman Gilbert. 1233 01:38:54,000 --> 01:38:54,240 All right. 1234 01:38:54,520 --> 01:38:55,340 Councilman Wheeler. 1235 01:39:01,080 --> 01:39:01,860 To the fourth of July. 1236 01:39:02,220 --> 01:39:03,000 It's my favorite holiday. 1237 01:39:03,640 --> 01:39:04,960 There's any chance we can have it. 1238 01:39:04,960 --> 01:39:06,500 I'd like to contend with operations. 1239 01:39:07,060 --> 01:39:08,680 So my vote is no. 1240 01:39:08,920 --> 01:39:09,320 All right. 1241 01:39:09,580 --> 01:39:11,060 Then that motion fails. 1242 01:39:11,820 --> 01:39:13,920 We have another motion on the table. 1243 01:39:15,600 --> 01:39:18,640 And that is the original motion that 1244 01:39:18,640 --> 01:39:22,080 that has been moved in seconded. 1245 01:39:22,340 --> 01:39:24,460 All right, I will take a vote on that one now. 1246 01:39:24,720 --> 01:39:25,620 That's out as a proper protocol. 1247 01:39:26,880 --> 01:39:28,340 Is there any other comments? 1248 01:39:28,360 --> 01:39:29,900 I believe we've been coming in this thing to death. 1249 01:39:30,000 --> 01:39:30,740 Any other comments? 1250 01:39:33,660 --> 01:39:33,700 All right. 1251 01:39:33,760 --> 01:39:34,400 I have a comment. 1252 01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:36,500 You have a comment on that one? 1253 01:39:36,520 --> 01:39:36,960 Go ahead. 1254 01:39:37,100 --> 01:39:37,380 All right. 1255 01:39:38,980 --> 01:39:39,260 Yes. 1256 01:39:39,680 --> 01:39:42,220 I am concerned because we are dealing 1257 01:39:42,220 --> 01:39:50,120 with a vendor who is moving and innocent. 1258 01:39:50,240 --> 01:39:58,760 I don't know exactly what we will be dealing with if we divide to try to enter into some agreement whether it goes up or down. 1259 01:39:59,260 --> 01:40:06,880 I think that by encouraging that sort of, it's just not a good way to enter into a contract with a vendor. 1260 01:40:08,100 --> 01:40:16,940 If that, if vendors kind of play games in my sense, in a way, I just don't think that's another reason why we shouldn't enter into a contract with them. 1261 01:40:16,940 --> 01:40:25,200 Well, at this point, we haven't entered into anything, we haven't spent a dime one and so 1262 01:40:25,200 --> 01:40:27,460 any other comments? 1263 01:40:29,340 --> 01:40:33,040 All right, hearing none, I will take this for a vote. 1264 01:40:34,620 --> 01:40:40,840 All in favor of table lean till May 26 in the Chamber say aye. 1265 01:40:41,780 --> 01:40:44,720 All right. All right. All in. 1266 01:40:45,960 --> 01:40:48,300 Faith or actually, let me get the vote for the phone. 1267 01:40:48,560 --> 01:40:50,960 Excuse me. A lot to keep up with here. 1268 01:40:51,640 --> 01:40:54,520 All right. The phone mayer pretend. 1269 01:40:55,000 --> 01:40:55,840 Paisled. What is your vote? 1270 01:40:57,940 --> 01:40:58,060 No. 1271 01:40:58,680 --> 01:40:59,440 All right. 1272 01:41:01,950 --> 01:41:02,590 Councilman Gilbert. 1273 01:41:02,770 --> 01:41:03,710 What is your vote? 1274 01:41:10,100 --> 01:41:10,880 Councilman Gilbert? 1275 01:41:14,710 --> 01:41:17,170 No. No. Okay. Thank you. 1276 01:41:17,790 --> 01:41:19,080 Councilman Wheeler. What is your vote? 1277 01:41:22,070 --> 01:41:30,390 Okay, I believe that does pass, so we will table and I think moving on to 1278 01:41:33,430 --> 01:41:36,670 item 7 matters 1279 01:41:36,670 --> 01:41:40,770 agenda is presented by City Council members. I don't believe we have any is that correct? 1280 01:41:42,450 --> 01:41:47,890 All right, thank you. City Council member comments. It's a different world we live in. Do we have any 1281 01:41:47,890 --> 01:41:53,970 Council member comments on the phone or in the chambers? 1282 01:41:55,370 --> 01:41:56,850 Go ahead and mayer potential. 1283 01:41:59,970 --> 01:42:00,190 Yeah. 1284 01:42:01,330 --> 01:42:08,690 I, so I would like seeing how we have it on the lecturing coming up. 1285 01:42:08,990 --> 01:42:12,870 I would like to see, or I guess, 1286 01:42:13,330 --> 01:42:17,770 what good a hill isn't need to be void of any major 1287 01:42:19,010 --> 01:42:22,930 I'm sorry, I didn't hear you, any major what? 1288 01:42:23,810 --> 01:42:25,030 Campaign donor plants. 1289 01:42:25,130 --> 01:42:27,630 Major, he's he and donor influences. 1290 01:42:28,590 --> 01:42:34,870 Most of the providers standing have women on their campaign donation. 1291 01:42:36,190 --> 01:42:41,890 Our neighboring city was going to be dealt with a campaign donation of $1,000. 1292 01:42:41,890 --> 01:42:53,770 I think it is not unreasonable to have campaign donation limits, and I am asking for one of my fellow colleagues to support this debate. 1293 01:43:01,770 --> 01:43:14,510 I also have another, which I think we need to discuss the idea of having extra outdoor seating for restaurants. 1294 01:43:14,510 --> 01:43:22,010 In the public, we'll be in issue for the future and restrooms may need to limit the numbers 1295 01:43:22,010 --> 01:43:23,650 that they have. 1296 01:43:24,230 --> 01:43:33,570 It would be nice to have a discussion about something as to a way to offer for outdoor 1297 01:43:33,570 --> 01:43:39,110 seating to be available to restrooms that wish to have outdoor seating so that they don't 1298 01:43:39,110 --> 01:43:40,370 reduce their income. 1299 01:43:41,410 --> 01:43:42,730 Is that discussed in this program? 1300 01:43:45,780 --> 01:43:48,580 outdoor seating is that discussed in this road map at all? 1301 01:43:49,820 --> 01:43:53,680 They come out with industry recommendations as they roll it out. 1302 01:43:53,880 --> 01:43:56,360 Those have not come out yet. 1303 01:43:57,540 --> 01:43:57,740 All right. 1304 01:43:57,860 --> 01:44:04,700 Well, then that sounds like something that our governor has not given specific information on, 1305 01:44:04,720 --> 01:44:06,400 but I would definitely be in favor of that. 1306 01:44:06,420 --> 01:44:10,460 I think that any restaurant that has a patio should definitely be able to see people 1307 01:44:10,460 --> 01:44:11,360 because it has outdoor. 1308 01:44:11,500 --> 01:44:13,140 So I would agree with that. 1309 01:44:14,880 --> 01:44:17,780 I'm not understanding what's happening. 1310 01:44:18,900 --> 01:44:19,740 I want to clarify. 1311 01:44:20,260 --> 01:44:21,500 I'm just saying I would agree with that. 1312 01:44:22,960 --> 01:44:25,240 But I don't understand. 1313 01:44:26,720 --> 01:44:27,580 Go ahead. 1314 01:44:30,040 --> 01:44:35,380 The first item my understanding is on the Council member, 1315 01:44:35,440 --> 01:44:39,720 Puzzled, would like to have the limit on campaign contributions 1316 01:44:39,720 --> 01:44:49,640 on the next agenda under her on matters of gender is by council members. I heard Dr. Gilbert give a second to that. 1317 01:44:50,020 --> 01:44:56,580 So that item will pursue into city council policy appear on the next agenda. 1318 01:44:56,580 --> 01:44:59,880 26. Alright. Okay, I am not clear. 1319 01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:12,500 That what council member Puzzled was asking was to place the item on restaurant seating on the next agenda under her, or not, or if that was just a discussion item. 1320 01:45:12,840 --> 01:45:15,180 So that's the clarification that I need. 1321 01:45:15,660 --> 01:45:19,580 Is that something we even have control over as a city? 1322 01:45:20,200 --> 01:45:29,340 Well, if there's no restriction against it, the more the better I agree, but I'm just, I guess I'm looking to understand that you agree. 1323 01:45:29,340 --> 01:45:32,080 I need to know if that needs to go on the agenda next time. 1324 01:45:32,360 --> 01:45:35,420 I don't know what council member presolves intention was. 1325 01:45:35,620 --> 01:45:39,760 Yeah, we can't actually deliver it on whether we, I think we should do it or not. 1326 01:45:40,280 --> 01:45:43,620 That's to be done if we just want to know if we want to agenda. 1327 01:45:43,960 --> 01:45:44,900 Okay, that's fine. 1328 01:45:45,140 --> 01:45:47,840 And so I would need someone who would agree with that. 1329 01:45:48,120 --> 01:45:49,020 I guess I'm just. 1330 01:45:49,200 --> 01:45:50,240 Someone who wants to have an agenda. 1331 01:45:50,240 --> 01:45:50,540 Anyone? 1332 01:45:51,000 --> 01:45:53,700 Yeah, would anybody like to see that agenda? 1333 01:45:54,340 --> 01:45:54,580 Sure. 1334 01:45:55,580 --> 01:45:56,500 I agree. 1335 01:45:57,220 --> 01:45:57,360 Okay. 1336 01:45:57,360 --> 01:46:02,360 So those two items will appear on the agenda for next time. 1337 01:46:03,600 --> 01:46:06,500 Any other comments, may I pretend, Hazel? 1338 01:46:08,910 --> 01:46:09,850 No, thank you. 1339 01:46:10,110 --> 01:46:11,410 All right. 1340 01:46:11,890 --> 01:46:13,250 Councilman Gilbert, do you have any comments? 1341 01:46:15,820 --> 01:46:16,560 No, I don't. 1342 01:46:16,780 --> 01:46:17,260 Thank you. 1343 01:46:17,560 --> 01:46:18,640 All right. 1344 01:46:19,780 --> 01:46:21,460 Councilman Wheeler, do you have any comments? 1345 01:46:23,840 --> 01:46:25,220 Just one comment. 1346 01:46:25,540 --> 01:46:28,020 It's been a long time since we've heard from the lone guy. 1347 01:46:28,800 --> 01:46:30,840 I realize the world has turned upside down. 1348 01:46:30,840 --> 01:46:39,080 But I'd like to know what their intentions plans are, and they didn't anything, the last time he talked, and they talked that. 1349 01:46:43,110 --> 01:46:49,190 Yeah, I'd be happy to give any council members individual briefings on the status of that right now. 1350 01:46:49,950 --> 01:46:52,070 So I'm available by telephone. 1351 01:46:53,750 --> 01:46:55,250 I think that's a very good idea. 1352 01:46:55,290 --> 01:46:56,530 I'd like to see that done in public. 1353 01:46:58,050 --> 01:47:00,250 I'd like to see that done in public as much as possible. 1354 01:47:00,250 --> 01:47:07,860 So at this point, I believe nothing has been shared with the public, and so I think that's 1355 01:47:07,860 --> 01:47:15,650 something that would need to be not done on a official basis, because there's nothing 1356 01:47:15,650 --> 01:47:18,310 presentable by Merlon Gaia, correct? 1357 01:47:18,890 --> 01:47:18,910 If I... 1358 01:47:18,910 --> 01:47:24,170 At this point, it would be inappropriate, I think, to give a public presentation. 1359 01:47:24,530 --> 01:47:26,030 There are too many balls in the air. 1360 01:47:27,170 --> 01:47:31,070 Once again, we have a pandemic going on. 1361 01:47:31,070 --> 01:47:36,890 I think that change is a lot of things, we're working with Merlon Gyer, we're having meetings with them, 1362 01:47:37,150 --> 01:47:40,330 but it's just not right for prime time. 1363 01:47:41,670 --> 01:47:46,650 All right. Any other comments? Mr. Sedgwick, I'd like to make any comments? 1364 01:47:47,310 --> 01:47:53,750 Okay, the one thing I just wanted to share with my colleagues is that I was invited by Katherine Chetara. 1365 01:47:53,750 --> 01:47:57,770 She is the CEO of COO, excuse me, of the sound of a hospital. 1366 01:47:58,530 --> 01:48:04,210 To take a tour of the hospital, and I took a group on that offer today, and was a fantastic 1367 01:48:04,210 --> 01:48:04,710 tour. 1368 01:48:05,230 --> 01:48:12,530 I have to give just a major shout out like Mr. Reynolds did to the hospital and say that they're 1369 01:48:12,530 --> 01:48:14,970 doing an absolutely fantastic job. 1370 01:48:16,010 --> 01:48:21,950 They are definitely prepared and ready to take on any surge that might happen. 1371 01:48:22,950 --> 01:48:31,510 They've been changing the rooms to add a negative air pressure option for different rooms. 1372 01:48:31,910 --> 01:48:33,890 They have their ICU separated. 1373 01:48:34,370 --> 01:48:37,990 They have a brilliant scheme that they're using their color scheme. 1374 01:48:38,290 --> 01:48:43,510 We recently, as a council, voted on their new color schemes, which were green orange and purple. 1375 01:48:44,210 --> 01:48:51,490 And they walked me through the hospital and you can see green and orange and purple tape in different locations of the hospital. 1376 01:48:52,810 --> 01:48:59,250 Green is non-COVID, anything that's not related to COVID, orange is kind of something in 1377 01:48:59,250 --> 01:49:06,310 between where someone may be COVID positive, but it's not serious, and purple is where 1378 01:49:06,310 --> 01:49:12,010 you have like an ICU series situation with COVID, and all of the different hospital personnel 1379 01:49:12,010 --> 01:49:18,650 have been instructed on how everything will work under this new protocol, they've literally 1380 01:49:18,650 --> 01:49:23,510 put up drywall, they've brought in equipment, they've done many, many things, and it's been 1381 01:49:23,510 --> 01:49:27,750 it's just been absolute tremendous. One of the things the hospital is asking for us to do 1382 01:49:27,750 --> 01:49:33,430 as a city is to let them know, let people know that this is a safe place to come. That this 1383 01:49:33,430 --> 01:49:39,870 is a place that they don't have to worry about anything happening because they've made the proper 1384 01:49:39,870 --> 01:49:46,910 changes in the way the hospital is situated to bring people to the right place for the right thing. 1385 01:49:46,910 --> 01:49:54,990 And they're asking us to put that on our website, which I heartily recommend letting them know that, you know, 1386 01:49:54,990 --> 01:50:01,430 settle back as a place where you can come. You don't have to worry about being exposed to COVID-19, because that will be a separate place. 1387 01:50:03,050 --> 01:50:18,170 And I just wanted to have a nice positive story for a change, and I also wanted to let everyone know that as Ms. Yokem said earlier in her public comment, 1388 01:50:18,170 --> 01:50:21,730 And this Thursday at 430 p.m. 1389 01:50:22,030 --> 01:50:27,090 Southerba Costs Federal is going to be entertaining a thank you parade. 1390 01:50:27,630 --> 01:50:33,850 There is a church up in Anaheim, and they have offered to come down here to the Gunna Hills 1391 01:50:33,850 --> 01:50:40,490 and to have a nice parade, and I would like to invite my colleagues if they'd like to 1392 01:50:40,490 --> 01:50:46,450 come and help show our thank you to Southerba back in one of our largest employers in 1393 01:50:46,450 --> 01:50:46,850 the city. 1394 01:50:48,030 --> 01:50:52,650 They're support for the city, you know, we're all going through this in so many different ways. 1395 01:50:53,350 --> 01:50:56,070 And so I'd like to put that out there so please get in touch with me. 1396 01:50:56,310 --> 01:51:00,130 If you'd like to do that and I think that's all my comments. 1397 01:51:00,330 --> 01:51:08,890 So if there's nothing else I'll go ahead and I will adjourn this meeting to our next meeting on May 26th.