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[0:07] Everybody ready? We are right. Okay. All right. I'd like to call this regular city council meeting to order. Today is May 12th.
[0:24] All right. I'm seeing that we have one council member with us tonight. Would you like to give us the pleasure of leaving us in the pledge of allegiance to Councilman's edict?
[0:59] We're getting better at that with the chorus, I know, in the background, all right, great, could we have roll call please?
[1:09] We have an invocation tonight.
[1:12] Is that something?
[1:13] It's on the agenda.
[1:15] It should not.
[1:23] It wasn't aware that it was on the agenda tonight,
[1:26] and that something that wasn't prepared for,
[1:31] but I'll go ahead and I'll lead us.
[1:32] Would you like to lead us down?
[1:34] All right.
[1:38] All right.
[1:38] Dear Lord, I just pray that you give us wisdom
[1:41] as elected leaders to make wise decisions.
[1:46] So many people are hurting right now in this COVID-19 crisis.
[1:50] There's so much fear and frustration and anger
[1:54] out there.
[1:55] I just pray that you intervene and help us make wise decisions
[2:00] as council members, lawyers, leaders of the city
[2:03] to be able to govern wisely, Lord.
[2:08] And we thank you for these things, Amen.
[2:10] All
[2:13] right, we don't have any presentations or proclamations, obviously.
[2:17] We have any public comments, I see one.
[2:23] Oh, that's our excuse me, I'm sorry about that.
[2:26] The evocation through me off.
[2:28] Roll call please, if we could have that.
[2:33] Thank you.
[2:34] But the record show, Mayor Heft and Council Member Sedrick are in the Council Chamber and
[2:39] Mayor for attend, basult, council members, Wheeler and Gilbert are joining by
[2:47] teleconference.
[2:48] All right, thank you.
[2:49] Okay, now we will move on to public comments.
[2:52] We have one public comment in front of us.
[2:55] One person in the room, this is the time to rest of the city council and any matter not listed
[2:58] on the agenda that is within the subject matter jurisdiction of the city council.
[3:03] Public comments are limited to three minutes per person and overall time limit of 10 minutes
[3:08] for anyone subject to a time limit of 30 minutes.
[3:11] If you could just go ahead and stitch name and address force
[3:14] and I think you know the draw.
[3:16] I do, we're far away.
[3:20] Enough way, I think I'm fine with that.
[3:22] Yeah, no problem.
[3:23] I don't want to hyperventilate again.
[3:26] My name is Robin Jokens.
[3:28] I am located at 25321 Airhart Road, Laguna Hills, California.
[3:33] Good evening, Mayor Heft and City Council members and staff.
[3:37] I have comments regarding public safety and news about an appreciation parade that you may
[3:42] or may not be aware of.
[3:45] Safety concerns recently on my street, we had an incident at about 1.30 in the morning,
[3:51] which I did call the non-emergency number and reported to police.
[3:55] We had two individuals that were dropped off at the corner and they were fishing in vehicles,
[4:02] One of which actually got into a vehicle of our neighbor and fortunately, I was able to
[4:10] scare them off.
[4:12] I do want to commend the sheriff.
[4:13] They were very responsive.
[4:16] Unfortunately, they did not apprehend anybody that evening.
[4:19] They did apprehend somebody actually, I think, two individuals another evening.
[4:24] So I'd like to thank the sheriff for that.
[4:28] In addition to that, we have had an abundance of used condoms, alcohol beverages that are distributed
[4:40] on our street and in and around our areas.
[4:44] Lately there has also been hypertermic needles.
[4:47] Fortunately they put the cap back on, so I guess safety first.
[4:51] And then also recently we have had solicitations door to door for donations.
[4:59] So, I know a major part of our city's budget is safety, however, despite our best efforts and in these times that we find ourselves and despite the best efforts of the sheriff at times we don't feel safe.
[5:13] So I just want to to bring that to City Council's attention.
[5:17] I've also asked the community to start reporting to the non-emergency number because I think people somehow think through
[5:23] of Osmosis, the sheriff just knows this type of stuff.
[5:27] So I'm going to try to work with the community to get more information on these incidents that they have them.
[5:34] Two, we're guiding the COVID-19 hotel.
[5:37] We do thank you for fighting for the well-being and rights of our community.
[5:41] It is the community's hope that we will receive regular updates on occupancy, as well as use of the location.
[5:48] And I know there was a reason update, which is wanted to make that clear.
[5:52] With regards to an appreciation parade on the 14th, which is this coming Thursday, there is going to be an appreciation parade to thank Satellback Memorial Hospital and Health Workers.
[6:04] It is my understanding that the sheriff and fire department will also be involved with that.
[6:09] So please expect an email from Natasha Gillette on that.
[6:14] And again, just thank you.
[6:17] I mean, really, in this time, more than ever, I really want to thank Council staff and
[6:23] our sheriff for ensuring the best health and welfare of our community.
[6:28] Thank you.
[6:29] All right.
[6:29] Thank you very much.
[6:31] Yeah, I'm actually aware of that parade.
[6:32] And I'm going to be talking about that a little bit later tonight when we get to council
[6:37] comments.
[6:38] All right, consent calendar all matters listed under consent calendar are considered to be routine and will be enacted by one motion approving the recommendation listed on the agenda.
[6:51] There will be no separate discussion unless members of the City Council or staff request specific items to be removed from the consent calendar.
[6:59] We have items 3.1 through
[7:07] 3.2, sorry about that, last my page.
[7:11] All right, we have items 3.1 through 3.18, yeah.
[7:21] If there's any council member that wants to pull anyone of these items?
[7:27] Yes, I'd like to pull one.
[7:29] Okay, what was council member Wheeler?
[7:33] I'd like to call it 314.
[7:36] 314.
[7:39] All right.
[7:40] Any other council members that would like to pull any items?
[7:49] Hearing none.
[7:50] All right.
[7:50] Do I have a motion to approve the balance?
[7:55] All right.
[7:55] It's been moved by.
[7:56] All right.
[7:57] It's been moved by Councilman.
[7:58] Sejwik and seconded by Councilman Gilbert.
[8:02] I'll in favor to approve the balance.
[8:07] I guess we'll have a roll call vote, so at this point the two here can do a voice vote.
[8:15] All right.
[8:15] All right.
[8:16] And then we have Councilman Wheeler.
[8:22] Mayor, pretend, Hazel.
[8:27] Councilman Gilbert.
[8:30] Aye.
[8:30] Okay.
[8:30] So the balance is approved.
[8:32] Councilman Wheeler.
[8:34] You wanted to pull a 3.14 go ahead.
[8:39] Okay.
[8:39] It's time to stand at 314 deals with our free maintenance service contract to be renewed for another year.
[8:48] We are probably going to have a budget choice fault or at least have to reduce our budget by 1 to 2 million.
[8:56] If Dawn is correct and that holds, I think that this is a candidate probably or some cuts.
[9:02] It's nice to trim trees, but I don't think the trimming trees aesthetically is going to be in a high priority item.
[9:13] Absolutely, we'd have to trim for safety and things like that.
[9:16] I'd like to, you know, start discussion.
[9:18] We have to have the work done a little more and trim it back on intended.
[9:24] All right.
[9:25] I think this would be an item for Mr. Rosenfield?
[9:28] It could be, I would just say that we are going to be bringing a list of cuts to the City Council at the June 9th meeting.
[9:40] And we may be scaling back this contract to some extent that we do need to have tree service.
[9:47] This is actually a very important public safety, the vast majority of all of our claims are related to trees falling in limbs falling and those can be very expensive if we don't have a sustained and
[10:09] tree trimming program and protocols.
[10:13] So this is something I don't view as discretionary,
[10:17] and if Mr. Rosenfield would like to add anything to that.
[10:20] That would be flying too.
[10:25] Thank you, Don.
[10:26] Madam Mayor, members of the City Council,
[10:29] we do anticipate cutting back on the expenditures of tree trimming,
[10:33] but still maintaining the service for the reasons expressed
[10:36] by the City Manager.
[10:37] As a fiscal year, 2021 budget for treaty trimming is $358,000.
[10:47] The same answer will go through the tier 1 cuts anticipated, but just to share with you,
[10:52] the topic has been brought up.
[10:54] We've already recommended a $50,000 cuts from that budget.
[10:59] And if more cuts are needed, we're looking at all other programs,
[11:03] including tree maintenance services for potential additional cuts, and otherwise though I would recommend to the council do approve the one-year extension of this contract.
[11:17] So I guess a point of information Mr. Rosenstein in terms of the one-year extension is that with everything that's been the way before COVID came around or is that with the cuts and
[11:32] that the vendor is accepting those.
[11:40] The amount of the three trimming contracts is a unit price contract, so we have a certain
[11:47] price for certain types inside the tree for trimming or removal or planting.
[11:53] And the staff is fully in control of the actual expenditures.
[11:58] The vendor, West Coast Arbys, is well aware that the city will be making a cutback.
[12:03] They've expressed no objection and we will be able to control that budget.
[12:09] Okay, I think in the name of safety, like Mr. White said, I think that's very important.
[12:16] Did you have any other comments, Mr. Wheeler on that?
[12:19] I think that satisfies me.
[12:26] Did we lose someone on the council or did we gain someone?
[12:29] Mr. Wheeler, did you have any other comments on that?
[12:35] I think we might have lost councilman Wheeler.
[12:39] You might have lost Mr. Wheeler or Council Member Wheeler, but I have something to weigh in.
[12:46] Regarding 3.18.
[12:51] I'm sorry, 3.14. I'm sorry, 3.14, I'm sorry in the wrong one.
[12:53] 3.14, yes.
[12:56] Yes.
[12:59] Okay, go ahead.
[13:02] Okay.
[13:04] So.
[13:04] Can I go back to my back again?
[13:06] Yeah, you're back in.
[13:08] Mayor Pritim Pizzled is making a comment about 3.14, and then we'll have you back.
[13:13] Go ahead, Mayor Pritim.
[13:15] Pizzled.
[13:18] Okay.
[13:19] So, one thing we have in looking at health, we are known for our trees, and as beautiful as they are, they
[13:29] are a liability, and we should not, and my view, we should be
[13:38] and careful as possible with these trees, because it takes one, it takes not cutting or trimming them to cause a major branch to fall, in a Nellie gel, a tree branch fell on to a car, a vehicle, and they've been as known within the vehicle, but it's cost significant damage.
[14:05] So my concern is by touching the budget is creates a huge safety issue because we are a city of trees.
[14:14] So I think we should not be touching if we need to be as prophylactic as possible with the trees.
[14:23] Well, I believe it sounds like we're going to have an opportunity to get into this in a lot more detail,
[14:29] but at this point we're looking to extend with the option of making some changes correct.
[14:36] The budget discussions will occur on June 9th. Tonight is just about extending the contract
[14:41] which Mr. Rosenfield made clear. We're in complete control of its unit-based task base.
[14:49] So if we don't order them to do work, nothing happens. They just don't get paid money to get paid money.
[14:55] All right, Mr. Sedgwick, you wanted to add to this?
[14:58] Yeah, I think, guys.
[15:00] Court Mr. Rosenfeld brought up, and I think the plan is valid, that we approved the contract,
[15:10] but it still allows us the opportunity to cut back when we have the budget discussion. Obviously,
[15:16] we're going to need to do some trees. We won't be able to cut all of our tree trimming, so we need
[15:21] to approve the contracts so that we can get some trees trimmed. But I do like Council Member Wheeler's
[15:25] idea to see what we can do to postpone, you know, some tree trimming for a year, where
[15:32] it's, you know, where it makes sense, because I think that's, I think, especially if it's
[15:37] more of an aesthetic issue than a safety issue on some trees, that that would be one area
[15:43] where we might postpone some tree trimming given the emergency status that we find ourselves
[15:48] and financially. So I like the comment. I also like the response.
[15:55] Can I have a comment?
[15:58] I believe that, yeah, Councilman Gilbert, I believe you were first. I can't quite tell.
[16:01] Go ahead.
[16:03] Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've been with John.
[16:07] Okay.
[16:09] Councilman, will you do have an additional comment to make before we vote on this?
[16:15] Yeah, yeah.
[16:15] or some of these night, my phone got cut off from last night's smoke until a councilwoman
[16:24] the Pagels Florida talk there, and I don't know where I got came into the group.
[16:27] Yeah, I'm fine with it, thank you, Ben, since the only thing I was concerned about, as a
[16:31] rescival section C, it says that basically the increased budget, you know, when I've been
[16:37] to enter the 305.
[16:40] And I understood this to be that we approve this.
[16:45] And we're paying out 3,000, not here.
[16:48] Conflicting, I think, things they were,
[16:50] we can cut back about budget.
[16:53] Is that so?
[16:54] Or are we mandate a pay to 3,5,
[16:56] paying on the clear on that?
[16:58] All right.
[16:59] That's out of there.
[17:00] This is Camp Rosenfield.
[17:01] Yes, Mr. Rosenfield.
[17:03] Sure.
[17:03] Go ahead, please.
[17:05] So what that recital represents is that a previous amendment to the contracts, recognize that the city council approved a further investment in tree maintenance in your prior fiscal budget and the maximum contract amount of that then current contract would not accommodate the city spending that increased budget.
[17:31] So the amendment was bringing the contractors and will maximum compensation value up to the enhanced
[17:43] budget that the city council approved previously.
[17:47] But the part that you mentioned, I would estimate when you lost contact by phone, is that
[17:54] this is a unit price contract.
[17:56] it is not a lump sum or six feet contract.
[18:00] So the city is controlled, in total control of how many trees
[18:04] and what expenditure we've made over the course of the fiscal year.
[18:10] The vendor, let's go to our risk is fully aware of those requirements
[18:15] and the current COVID-19 conditions in terms of our budget impact
[18:20] that will be further discussed in the city council on June 9.
[18:24] And so the answer to your question is, we can cut back the budget without any consequence relative to the contract.
[18:33] Okay, thank you.
[18:34] All right.
[18:35] Do I have a motion to a move item 3.14?
[18:39] Some moved.
[18:40] All right.
[18:40] Do I have a second?
[18:42] Second.
[18:42] All right.
[18:43] I think it's been moved.
[18:44] Second in.
[18:44] All in favor.
[18:46] In this chamber.
[18:47] Say aye.
[18:49] All right.
[18:52] I'll do it.
[18:53] of a roll call vote for those on the phone.
[18:57] Mayor pretend, pays old.
[19:02] Thank you.
[19:03] Councilman Gilbert.
[19:06] All right.
[19:06] Councilman Wheeler.
[19:10] All right.
[19:10] OK, thank you.
[19:11] That passes unanimously.
[19:16] So before I move on to the next item,
[19:18] I do have another pink card.
[19:20] Is it appropriate to?
[19:21] OK, so we have another public comment.
[19:23] If you could go ahead and come to the podium over here
[19:27] state your name and your address. My name is Nicole Maldonato. I live at 2-495-195-1-1
[19:33] industry. I'm a junior health. I know I've had dialogue with each of you before about
[19:38] some issues in verbal community with the schools and I can't miss for you. So thank you for
[19:43] having me speak tonight. I'm a local mom of five children. I'm very concerned about all
[19:48] of our kids' mental health right now. Our parks are continuing to stay close. I personally
[19:53] living in a neighborhood that doesn't have a lot of small children, and we cannot take our children
[19:58] to the playground. I understand maybe the sports parks and these large parks we keep
[20:02] close, but I feel like those parents that want to have the rights to take their children
[20:06] in the park, we should have that right. And those that don't, and they're so fearful, or, you
[20:11] know, they don't want to be outside of their homes, they should have that choice to stay
[20:14] indoors. And so I just wanted to come here tonight to speak on behalf of a large number
[20:19] of Luke O'Neill's moms.
[20:21] I got a call back today after leaving several messages
[20:23] for your parks community and they told me to be here tonight.
[20:26] So the minimum I haven't got home at 6.40,
[20:28] I hopped in the shower and I hauled that here.
[20:31] Because it brings me to tears
[20:32] watching my children be into press from the age of 17
[20:35] to identify your soul because they can't go to the local playground.
[20:39] And so I hope that you guys can maybe look at that
[20:41] as a parent's we're struggling.
[20:43] We're homeschooling, we're trying to fight for our families financially
[20:45] and we can't even take our kids to the local park to play.
[20:49] Well, thank you for your comments. I know where we're kind of all in that vote, as far as like trying to look for, you know, silver lining to the cloud that we're all under, and hopefully we'll start to have some things lifted soon to where we will have those abilities, you know, within a safe environment that thank you so much for your comments. I appreciate that.
[21:10] Madam Mayor, I would have a verification.
[21:15] Yes, the Councilman Wheeler, you had a point of clarification.
[21:21] Yeah, I want you to point of clarification.
[21:23] The parks are open, are they not?
[21:25] It's just the equipment that we want to have for labor, but that's not correct.
[21:30] Yes, I believe our city manager is going to speak to that.
[21:35] Yes, so I think the city council is aware of our parks are open, they are not closed to
[21:42] public playground equipment is closed by order executive order of the governor of the
[21:49] state of California and so not the city and so those will remain closed until that order
[21:59] is lifted at the state level.
[22:04] Okay that's fine.
[22:06] I want to know I put on here to be a lady's name but I want to say if that answer a question
[22:11] that the kids can go to the park, they just don't want them spread
[22:14] here and by touching the equipment. Is that the vet helper at all?
[22:21] I think she understands that. She was just asking if there's something that we could
[22:24] do to expedite the opening of the playgrounds.
[22:27] Right, I think it's about the playground equipment. I don't think it's about standing
[22:30] and staring at it.
[22:31] Yeah, I think it's one of those things that you have a five-year-old, eight-year-old
[22:34] that's six-year-old that's looking at playground, like when you mean I can't touch it.
[22:39] You know, I can't play on the playground, so that's what's hard.
[22:42] I'll kind of stand. Thank you. Appreciate you comments. Really do.
[22:47] All right. We are moving on to our planning agency.
[22:53] May I have the planning agency members. We'll call please.
[23:02] Let there are some show that's my agency member.
[23:07] I have to hand-sadric our presence and on the phone are
[23:11] plenty of agency members,
[23:14] Gilbert's, Wheeler and Paisel.
[23:18] All right, great.
[23:19] We don't have any public comments that I can see for that.
[23:24] All right, do I have a motion for the approval of the minutes?
[23:27] So moved.
[23:28] All right, have a second.
[23:31] Do I have a second?
[23:33] All right, thank you.
[23:35] All right.
[23:36] All right, it's been moved and seconded.
[23:37] All in favor and the chambers say aye.
[23:39] All right.
[23:40] I, all right, I'm going to give a voice vote, Councilman Wheeler,
[23:49] Councilman Gilbert,
[23:53] Mayor
[23:53] Pertemp Hazel,
[23:57] all right, thank you,
[24:02] all right, any administrative reports, Mr. City Manager?
[24:06] Okay. Okay, and the Planning Agency, public hearings. Okay, now I will adjourn the Planning
[24:14] agency and reconvene our city council meeting.
[24:19] We have item number 5.1 public hearing on the 2020 weed, rubbish and refuse abatement.
[24:27] I believe that is Mr. Rosenfeld, do you have a presentation for us or a report?
[24:34] Yes, I do.
[24:35] Thank you, Mayor.
[24:36] If members of the city council, this is the time noticed for the annual weed abatement public
[24:43] hearing to allow homeowners the opportunity to address the city council relative to the
[24:50] order that they have been issued to a faith, weed, relish and refuse from their property
[24:58] starting later than this month.
[25:02] The city has been very difficult over the years, issued approximately 550 notices to
[25:09] this property throughout the city, based upon historic and observed conditions on their
[25:16] properties, needing just abatement. And as is very typical, many homeowners have already
[25:24] contacted the city indicating that they are going to care of their weeds and other fire hazards
[25:32] to do gate. And again, historically, the city has rarely had to obey private properties
[25:40] that has happened an occasional single or second time, but not very frequently.
[25:48] Based upon the public hearing notice, the city council has requested to open the public hearing
[25:56] take testimony and consider adoption of the resolution, which is attached to the staff
[26:05] before, which creates a resolution of the City Council on the City of the Hill's California
[26:12] issuing an abatement order and authorizing the Assistant City Manager Director of the
[26:17] Services to commence enforcing weed, rubbish, and refuse abatement against specified
[26:22] of a plan. I'm available to answer any questions and associate the
[26:28] legendary Amber Shaw. It's also online should there be a need for further
[26:32] information. Do we have any questions or discussion with the members on the phone
[26:41] or here in the chamber regarding this for Mr. Rosenstein, Mr. Rosenfield or
[26:47] Or Mishaw?
[26:52] I have a question from Mr. Roosevelt.
[26:55] Go ahead.
[26:59] Thank you.
[27:01] First, I want to say thank you for gathering
[27:03] information.
[27:05] It's important to lead a maintenance and rubbish.
[27:09] I think this is an important, I think it's important
[27:13] in our city, especially because of the crevents
[27:17] and a number of issues that can happen.
[27:23] One thing that I, one complaint I received frequently from
[27:29] citizens in the city is with respect to the,
[27:36] we've been certain businesses.
[27:38] So I'm just curious if they, if they,
[27:42] we may include the post office,
[27:46] as well as the uptractorate from the specific center of the mall.
[27:58] So Madam Mayor and members of the City Council,
[28:01] the type of weak conditions that you're describing
[28:07] there are not this handful of events typically,
[28:13] even though the post office doesn't do a great job of maintaining
[28:16] in our landscaping as we all know when we drive by there, and then they seem to be
[28:21] the best specific, but the weed abatement notice is did not include the post office or
[28:28] the property owned by a low-guar partners this year, because we have other means to address
[28:35] the weed issues on their properties, and if those means are not successful then we still have
[28:44] and enforcement authority as a backstop to the wheat event in the program.
[28:51] Previously, we did have last year complaints about the condition of the weeds on the property
[29:00] owned by rural and biopartners, staff contacted rural and biopartners, and they thank
[29:08] us for contacting them, and they took care of the issue if they take about two weeks, but
[29:13] did remove the weed at that time and we'll certainly follow up with them for this spring as
[29:18] well. The post office is a little more challenging because of the federal agency and we may
[29:25] or may not have certain authorities with them but putting that aside certainly can reach out
[29:31] for them and ask for a better maintenance of that area.
[29:40] Any other comments before we take this
[29:42] of a, oh, thank you. All right.
[29:51] I'd like to go ahead and open the public hearing. If
[29:54] there is anyone who would like to speak.
[30:00] All right. I don't see anyone who is looking to speak here. So I'll go ahead and I'll close the public hearing. And if we do not have any more discussion, I will entertain a motion to adopt this resolution and accept a staff's recommendation on this.
[30:20] Do I have a motion?
[30:23] All right, thank you.
[30:26] And do I have a second?
[30:30] Okay, great.
[30:31] It's been moved and seconded.
[30:32] Thank you.
[30:34] All in the chamber say aye.
[30:37] All right.
[30:38] Mayor Pertene Paisled.
[30:44] Councilman Wheeler.
[30:47] Aye.
[30:48] Councilman Gilbert.
[30:51] All right.
[30:51] Thank you.
[30:52] That passes unanimously.
[30:55] All right.
[30:55] I will move on to item.
[30:58] 6.1 administrative reports are City Manager COVID-19 local emergency city manager status report and before we get into that I do want to say that I was really pleased with the outcome of this letter that Mr. White is going to tell us about.
[31:18] Thank you, Madam Mayor,
[31:23] so it was a 62 days ago when this crisis really began, I think, for the city, it was Thursday, March 12, with a conference call with the county CEO and all the city managers in the county, and it was that following Monday when we had closed city hall to the public and had done some taking some other actions.
[31:50] It seems like a long time ago, it also seems like yesterday.
[31:56] What I wanted to do tonight, I had handed out emailed to you and the updated California
[32:06] road map.
[32:07] So if you have that handy, I am going to use that.
[32:11] There are copies of it in the back, if anyone in the public would like to follow along
[32:18] also. We just received this, I just received this today and I think there was the older one
[32:28] was in the staff report that it was part of the agenda packet.
[32:35] If you look at page 2, there's
[32:37] a reminder there that California's decisions are going to be based on science, data, and
[32:44] public health, and I think that is generally true, and to the Shagrin, as some people, not
[32:52] so much the economy, that would come after the science, the data, and the public health.
[33:05] Page three of that handouts says, what does stage two mean, and there's been a lot of confusion
[33:12] because the state has not been very clear about this.
[33:16] Beginning last week, when the governor first rolled it out,
[33:20] we had been in stage one, which was the whole stay at home.
[33:26] This is not a return to normal.
[33:29] As you know, there are four stages.
[33:32] There's stage one, stage two, stage three,
[33:36] and then stage four is actually stage three
[33:38] of where there's more at risk businesses open up.
[33:42] Stage 4 is when you can begin having large events, concerts, people assembling it, sporting events, and so forth.
[33:53] COVID-19 is still spreading.
[33:55] You can follow that for Orange County on the health care agencies website.
[34:04] The curve has been flattened, I think, dramatically.
[34:08] And as the state is saying here, California is gradually reopening only where we can reduce risk.
[34:16] I think that the word gradually is an overstatement.
[34:21] We have tip-toed into stage two.
[34:26] It is not, and it's, I think, getting through all of stage two is going to take some time.
[34:34] my best guess and from what I've heard,
[34:37] it will take this entire month probably, maybe longer.
[34:43] So this last Friday, as you can see,
[34:46] the big changes, which really didn't affect us too much,
[34:51] is that retailers can increase pickup and delivery,
[34:56] but they can't open up their stores and have people come in.
[35:00] So you can do pickup and delivery in quite frankly.
[35:03] It's nothing.
[35:03] It's a number of them we're doing that anyway.
[35:08] Yeah.
[35:10] So manufacturers in warehouses while that has an impact on those industries.
[35:16] It doesn't have a specific impact necessarily to the city itself.
[35:25] If you look at the next, it's a gradual move to stage two.
[35:29] They're going to, with their say, we will gradually reopen more industries and opening later
[35:37] in stage two are things like offices so that would involve city hall, seeded dining at restaurants,
[35:50] which is going to be interesting because they're going to have less occupancy.
[35:57] It'll be interesting to see how that works out because I think for some people to open up like that they might lose more money than they're losing today, right?
[36:07] So it'll be interesting to see how that plays out.
[36:11] I do know that there is a lot of takeout and drive through.
[36:15] I went to Chick-fil-A today at 2 o'clock.
[36:18] I thought I would pick up something and there were 15 cars in the queue.
[36:22] And I know raising canes is very busy.
[36:26] Some of these businesses may actually have a greater sales
[36:29] this quarter than they had in 2019.
[36:33] That's because there aren't a whole lot of options.
[36:37] But shopping malls, we don't have a shopping mall
[36:40] so that wouldn't affect us in outdoor museums
[36:44] are some of the other later moves.
[36:47] We've been getting a lot of interest questions about barbershops and hair salons and theaters and
[36:58] gyms and so forth. Those are all part of stage three because they're considered more at risk.
[37:06] We're not even close to being in stage two fully. So stage three is some later time and all of that will be at the direction of the state of California.
[37:18] They will have, they're going to be individual industry guidance.
[37:25] One thing I want you to know that we are going to be working with the county of Orange County City
[37:34] Managers Association, we're working on guidelines for getting back to work.
[37:39] And we will also have a customized plan specifically for city employees when that time does come.
[37:50] The next slide is probably the most important one in it's the one that is entitled regional variants.
[38:02] And what the state is saying is that counties can move further into stage two when they
[38:07] attest, they meet California Health Public Health Criteria.
[38:13] And this is the catch.
[38:21] You turn to the next page, it talks about regional variants criteria.
[38:27] And it gives you just one example there, there's several of them and there's some that
[38:31] you on the next page.
[38:36] The first one is epidemiologic stability. You can see one of those is
[38:43] no COVID-19 deaths in the past 14 days. That probably is not going to occur in Orange County
[38:51] or in any urban county in California for at least six months, if not longer. And so what the state
[39:00] has done is they have made stage two where your rural counties, especially those in the north
[39:10] and elsewhere in the state, will be able to open more fully in stage two, but all urban
[39:18] counties are going to be at the mercy of the state, because there's no way that we will
[39:24] be able to move into stage two.
[39:27] Now, that doesn't mean that they're not going to change the rules.
[39:31] That doesn't mean that in what it does mean is all of the urban counties are lobbying heavily
[39:36] with the state.
[39:38] They're going to try to come up with their own rules to get the state to buy into them.
[39:45] Again, the letter that the council directed us to draft for your review tonight to the Orange
[39:51] County Board of Supervisors ties very nicely in with this.
[39:56] because we're encouraging them to do everything they can to reopen as soon as it is safe to do so and that letter is attached for your review and we can take any comments on that later.
[40:12] But this is the problem with the state's roadmap to recovery.
[40:18] The urban counties we are caught between a rock and a hard place right now.
[40:23] The county, and I believe our county will be doing everything possible to get the state
[40:31] to allow us to reopen, but it really is in the hands of the state of California.
[40:40] And as you can see, there's different things about hospital capacity and so forth.
[40:45] And actually, I think most of those criteria are impossible for urban counties to meet.
[40:56] So at this time, if there's any questions regarding that road map, I'd be happy to answer them if I'm able.
[41:10] Any questions from any of our council members either in the room or on the phone?
[41:18] All right, Madam Mayor moving on, one of the things that this shows us is that I think
[41:25] for stage two and possibly stage three, one of the things that we have been discussing
[41:35] at the staff level for actually since the beginning of this epidemic some eight weeks ago now
[41:44] is what to do with our community services, events, programs, classes, et cetera for this upcoming summer quarter.
[41:59] And we're having a separate discussion on the Fourth of July, a couple of under 6.3.3.
[42:07] So, we're not speaking to that specifically here, but I wanted to let you know that given the condition that we are in,
[42:18] we really have no choice, but to cancel all events, programs, reservations and classes through the summer quarter, which takes us through September 10th of 2020.
[42:34] And in so doing,
[42:38] I would be fur-lowing all part-time staff, which total 31 people until further
[42:47] notice,
[42:50] or what I would plan to do with our full-time community services staff is have
[42:58] them and have already had them start working on this to actually be reassigned for the most
[43:05] as a COVID-19 recovery team, to help the community, to help businesses, to be a referral,
[43:12] to be kind of the local experts and giving out information that's becoming more and more critical,
[43:19] given the unclear messages that are coming from the state. And so I have Mr. Reynolds tasked with
[43:27] doing that. I think it's also a time that they will be doing a complete evaluation of
[43:35] community services. It's an unfortunate opportunity but it is an opportunity to take a look at how we do this.
[43:43] We've been doing it this way for a couple of decades and there are different ways to do community services.
[43:51] There are more cost efficient ways to do it.
[43:54] And so we're going to be looking at that and then bringing that information to the council for your discussion and consideration as we stand up.
[44:04] Restand up the program.
[44:07] My plan is that sometime either tomorrow or the next day I will be issuing an executive order that keeps the community center closed.
[44:18] and cancels, all events, programs, classes, and reservations through September 10th.
[44:27] In August, we will be doing an assessment to see if that needs to be continued for the
[44:33] fall quarter.
[44:36] And again, depending on who you listen to, this could go on for longer than even two quarters.
[44:45] We just don't know.
[44:46] I have
[44:52] a question.
[44:54] What are we seeing in terms of other cities?
[44:57] Our South County cities say in particular.
[45:03] I think everybody is doing the same thing. Yes, we had a conference, the 34 of us have a conference
[45:11] called once a week, and I asked the question, and not everybody chimed in, not everyone was on the call, but everybody
[45:19] is doing it, cancelling through the summer, summer saying to canceling to the end of the year.
[45:26] I did have a lengthy conversation with the City Manager of Laguna Beach this afternoon because I noticed
[45:33] their agenda, they're talking about this very thing, they're also talking about the 4th of July.
[45:39] And the recommendation there is to close everything and all indications are they're going to do that.
[45:45] In fact, the pageants of the masters is not going to take place.
[45:51] They haven't canceled the pageant of the master since World War II.
[45:57] All of the festivals, all of their trolley service, Laguna Beach is basically closing down
[46:07] for the summer, and that would be for them they're making it through Labor Day weekend.
[46:14] Lake Forest is canceling, all of their stuff through the end.
[46:18] There are some, you know, what we can talk about it, there are some cities that are doing
[46:23] a firework show because they feel that people can view that, but most have canceled their
[46:31] firework show and we found out today that Africa, the Community Association and Elisa
[46:37] be a whole canceled their firework show too. So, this is something that everyone is doing.
[46:43] We certainly will not be an outlier.
[46:47] Do we know about Sam Lark? I know we discussed that with you.
[46:50] No, we don't.
[46:50] We don't know about them, but I'm familiar with that show. I can't imagine that they would have it.
[47:02] So with that I would be happy to take any other questions.
[47:05] All right. Do we, I'm sorry. Do we have any questions?
[47:07] I've never heard something.
[47:08] I have a question.
[47:09] All right. Councilman Wheeler.
[47:11] Yeah, I have a question.
[47:12] Go ahead.
[47:14] You said it's true.
[47:15] You obviously, we're doing a healthy end.
[47:17] What would the occupancy sit with us on that?
[47:24] Yes, is that part of the emergency update I guess it could be part of the emergency update on Thursday there was zero
[47:35] Yes, there was zero on Thursday
[47:37] I haven't gotten an update
[47:40] Yesterday or today, but there was zero. I drove by it yesterday
[47:45] It looked vacant to me so
[47:49] Anyway
[47:49] Do you think there have been any in there at all?
[47:54] I'd come and know.
[47:55] A one that I know of.
[47:57] I think only one.
[48:02] Well, it's good that the numbers are down all around.
[48:06] All right.
[48:06] Any other questions or comments?
[48:09] With regard to Mr. White's presentation?
[48:15] All right.
[48:15] I just have one other comment I guess.
[48:18] White's question.
[48:19] Or anything that we can do is a city to help our business open up.
[48:24] I guess us declaring all this essential would be a nice gesture, but definitely do it, thank
[48:29] her for her.
[48:30] So, in comfort and pamper by state regulation, is there anything that we can do to help
[48:36] our people that you know have done?
[48:40] Well, I think there is.
[48:40] I think what we can do is to try to kind of be a curator of all the information, all the
[48:48] executive orders and to provide them with good information, to give them good referrals,
[48:56] to maybe even at times be on buzzmen for them with different state agencies or county agencies.
[49:03] That's what I see our COVID recovery team doing.
[49:08] Well, I for one hope.
[49:09] I'd like to make the suggestions that you're meeting with the other cities.
[49:13] I'd like to see, yes, that there are a lot of stores, for example, I use you know Walmart,
[49:18] They're being as warm. They're allowed to sell clothes, but then some local store that sells clothes has to be closed.
[49:27] I don't know. I don't know. It comes to mind what these clothes are.
[49:32] I'd like to see them try to do some medium-gram and say, okay, if you have a business that sells anything, really.
[49:48] If I understand this correctly, I believe they're able to be open as long as they don't fall into those seven categories, but it's just a matter of a curbside pickup, correct for the smaller stores as well.
[50:00] Yeah, they can't claim they're doing it by science, but that's a bunch of below me.
[50:07] If one story can sell clothes, another story should be able sell clothes, too.
[50:11] If they can wear the mask, do the same code to call it the other one.
[50:14] It's just so the answer.
[50:16] I agree with you, Dave.
[50:22] Yeah, I think it's important, just in general.
[50:25] I mean, we're being absolutely obliterated here, you know, just in our own county economically,
[50:31] because of everything that's been going on.
[50:33] So the sooner we can open up, I think the better you do have other states that are opening up.
[50:41] So I would ask our state to be looking very closely at what those other states are doing.
[50:48] And seeing if we being a state in particular that has had very low numbers of COVID could be on that list too to start opening up a sooner than later.
[50:59] Any other comments?
[51:02] May I?
[51:03] Yeah.
[51:03] Yeah.
[51:03] Go ahead.
[51:04] May your pretend could pizble.
[51:08] Retailors.
[51:09] It seems like with the stage that it that has opened.
[51:14] Retailors can as long as it's on a pickup phases.
[51:17] So it's not discouraging.
[51:19] It's not discouraging businesses from providing services where people can pick up their goods and have an exchange of funds.
[51:27] So, I guess we should be encouraging at phone call orders where people can pick them up and
[51:35] not have contact.
[51:36] Just encouraging businesses to have the practice of Northstrom's past this practice, not
[51:42] the Northstrom's sign up within our city, the Northstrom's practice, but the actual
[51:46] the Northstrom's in Mission VA House has an area where people can pull us and pick up
[51:51] their orders.
[51:52] So, it doesn't seem unreasonable to mention to clothing shops, as you want to open, very
[51:59] enough.
[52:00] Let's have some fair practices to do exactly what they're doing.
[52:05] Yeah, I would hope that in the light of everything going on that the way that an online website
[52:16] would offer its wears would be if there was an in store pickup available for those items
[52:24] because we know the just in time inventory, most stores don't carry a lot of inventory,
[52:30] most of the inventory is in a warehouse somewhere and it has to be shipped so that works
[52:34] to an extent but I guess if you're able to go online and see something that's actually in
[52:39] the store and pick it up but some of these smaller stores don't have that luxury so it
[52:44] I can understand the frustration out there because it does seem like some of the larger companies have an advantage and there's not much difference except for the size of the company or the size of the actual space.
[52:58] Go ahead.
[52:58] The question is, yeah, the question is, how many small doors do we have?
[53:04] We have a mall that we shut down.
[53:05] So we have the van store that is small, but van's is related to, they have their corporate office.
[53:13] We have Marshall, Marshall is a large store, they can start practicing it, those guidelines.
[53:19] There are very limited stores within the city of Laguna Health that are closing shops,
[53:24] where they wouldn't be able to implement those practices in my opinion.
[53:28] So are you, I guess I'm a little confused as to the point you're making,
[53:32] because it sounds like phase two includes the ability to open up.
[53:36] Are you saying we should move beyond,
[53:38] in your opinion, we should move beyond,
[53:41] just doing a curbside pickup and go straight into having
[53:44] the stores open with maybe like COVID-19 protocol followed?
[53:50] No, I'm just saying that we right now,
[53:55] the store contracted the curbside pickup
[53:57] that people want to call us and create this order,
[54:01] it doesn't seem like there is anything preventing
[54:03] doors from doing that right now. That's my point.
[54:07] Not that I'm aware of, not that I'm aware of it.
[54:10] Not that I'm aware of it.
[54:11] It says regional troops in treatment have been delivered.
[54:16] I mean, it sounds like they can start selling product.
[54:19] We just need to start encouraging that.
[54:21] Got it. Okay.
[54:22] Thank you for your comments.
[54:24] Mr. Sedg, would you want to weigh in on this?
[54:25] Yeah. I think it's a joke.
[54:28] The beginnings of this stage to allow, you know,
[54:32] not essential retailers to do curbside pickup, but it's just, they've always been doing
[54:37] you know, online ordering and all this does is it just takes a step out of the process
[54:41] where somebody can then pick it up instead of have it delivered to them. This doesn't help
[54:45] the small retailers at all. People at a small boutique clothing, jewelry, whatever store people
[54:51] need to come and see the goods. So I'm just, you know, I'm frustrated by it. The question
[54:55] is really before us is, what are we talking about? I mean, what? You know, we're going to
[55:02] you know, what can we do?
[55:04] And there's really not, it doesn't sound like there's a whole lot, and we can do.
[55:09] But we can, like we're doing, right, a letter, as you had suggested, to the county, to
[55:14] to share our frustration and to encourage them to, to, to open up the economy more than
[55:22] they are, to take a real truthful next step forward, because the step that they've taken
[55:27] really isn't much of a step forward at all.
[55:30] and what we just want to see is we want to see progress and we'd like to see pressure put on the
[55:36] governor that we're not happy to let them know that our voice be heard that we're not happy with the
[55:42] steps that are being taken forward because they're really fairly inconsequential and we just want to
[55:48] see a little bit more of an aggressive fair opening and it's been pointed out that unfairness
[55:54] that it is you've got as was pointed out the large retailers were selling everything or
[55:58] are packed, and they wanted to let five people go into a small retailer who's selling clothes
[56:03] also, just like Walmart as who's packed. It just doesn't make any sense. What we can't
[56:10] as a city just, you know, defy everybody and put in place our own rules. So we just need
[56:14] to put pressure on the decision makers and let them know, do our part, letting them know
[56:19] that we're not happy and explaining why the steps that they're doing are inconsequential.
[56:27] So I think that's what we are, it's already on this, the
[56:30] docket for tonight and so I don't know, I don't think we need to
[56:35] blame everybody rest in this meeting.
[56:37] I don't think we need to blame for the rest of this meeting.
[56:39] I think we all share the same viewpoint on it.
[56:41] I could not, very more, I think when it comes down to it, some of the
[56:48] guidelines that have been set forth, I think, are very, very
[56:50] difficult to obtain and to achieve and I think those, we, we would
[56:56] as a state in general to look at those in a little bit more reasonable light. So I would
[57:03] agree with you, Councilman Sejwik, everything you said. Any of the comments?
[57:09] You need approval of the letter.
[57:11] Right, and you know, regarding the letter, you've had it for a couple of days. I do want
[57:15] to read one little portion that really stuck out to me, and I thought it was well written,
[57:19] and well presented. And I thought this really struck a nice balance between being too heavy
[57:25] handed and being too, you know, light.
[57:31] And that is the third paragraph fan.
[57:33] I'll just read it into the record.
[57:35] Our critical small businesses may not survive if restrictions
[57:38] may remain in place much longer.
[57:41] It is time to develop a plan to safely reopen our economy
[57:45] and start the recovery process from the economic
[57:48] and financial implications small businesses
[57:51] have unfortunately faced.
[57:53] And it sounds like our conversation tonight
[57:55] has been really a lot of surrounding small businesses because they do not have the advantages
[58:00] that the large wallmarks and the targets and the home depots have.
[58:06] So with that, I guess I would need a vote to adopt the letter as written.
[58:15] This point, I'd like to entertain a motion to go ahead and accept and approve the letter as
[58:21] to be able to present to the Board of Advisors.
[58:25] Okay, it's been moved by Councilman Gilbert.
[58:28] Do I have a second?
[58:29] Second.
[58:31] Every second.
[58:32] All right.
[58:32] It's been a second.
[58:34] There we can talk to discussion.
[58:35] Yes.
[58:36] It's been seconded by Councilman Sedgewick.
[58:40] All right.
[58:40] Let's open it up for discussion.
[58:41] Go ahead.
[58:42] Mayor for Tempaisled.
[58:45] Yes.
[58:46] I understand that the reason for having a letter,
[58:52] However, the question is, is the county doesn't seem, it seems like the county is trying to take all the steps to open the businesses.
[59:02] And they're trying to balance it as much as possible, and it seems like there's a lot of pay for access with the state and a lot of decisions.
[59:11] I don't know what this letter is going to obtain in a sense other than just saying something.
[59:20] I mean, we're basically saying something, but I don't know if the county disagrees.
[59:24] I don't think the county is saying we want to keep everything shut down.
[59:28] So my question is, what is this essentially doing?
[59:35] The way I see it is this is a letter of support.
[59:37] Yeah, go ahead, Councilman Gilbert, and then I'll keep my comments to last.
[59:41] Well, I think it just shows support, and that's what I think the county needs to stay
[59:47] from the cities is that they have a hundred percent support behind what they're trying to accomplish.
[59:54] Yeah, there's a tremendous amount of pressure. I would agree with that, Councilman Gilbert,
[59:58] on the county right now.
[1:00:00] Now, and I've seen some of our fellow cities, writing letters and asking for these things, but also expressing their support and letting them know that, you know, we're behind them.
[1:00:13] We know that they're dealing with a lot of different things. There's a lot of moving parts to this and that we want to see it happen, but I think the letter was respectful.
[1:00:21] You know, I would be absolutely willing to sign it and stand behind it and so I'm definitely in favor of it.
[1:00:31] Any other comments?
[1:00:37] All right.
[1:00:38] Hearing none, let's bring this to a vote.
[1:00:43] We already have a motion in a second on the table.
[1:00:45] All in favor of accepting the letter and sending it to our Board of Supervisors.
[1:00:49] Say aye in the chambers.
[1:00:51] All right, and I'll do a phone vote at Councilman Wheeler.
[1:00:59] All right.
[1:00:59] All right.
[1:01:00] Councilman Gilbert.
[1:01:02] All right.
[1:01:04] Mayor Patent Hazel.
[1:01:08] All right.
[1:01:08] Great.
[1:01:08] Thank you so much.
[1:01:09] That passes unanimously.
[1:01:10] I really appreciate that.
[1:01:14] All right.
[1:01:18] We have item number 6.2 before us.
[1:01:21] I'm noting that we do have another public comment.
[1:01:26] Do we want to hold that before the item coming up that has to do with Rina or do we want to go ahead and have that now since they've been waiting?
[1:01:33] What's what's proper protocol?
[1:01:36] Well, we need to wait.
[1:01:41] Okay, she's been waiting a long time.
[1:01:42] So, okay.
[1:01:43] All right.
[1:01:44] All right.
[1:01:54] You could take it out of order and I would also say that given new information, we're pulling that item for a future meeting once
[1:02:05] I guess formally adopts the allocation, so there's no rush to make a decision on an appeal or not, so we're pulling that item, but if we have someone you could have them come and speak now.
[1:02:21] Okay, so with the agreement of my colleagues,
[1:02:24] we could go ahead and look at item number 6.3 in I guess
[1:02:35] in front of item 6.2.
[1:02:38] Do we have a problem with that?
[1:02:39] Because I do have a public comment here
[1:02:41] that has been resident who's been waiting
[1:02:44] for quite some time.
[1:02:45] Is that all right?
[1:02:48] Okay, hearing no opposition, yes?
[1:02:52] said fine fine okay thank you hearing no opposition go ahead if you'd like to come up
[1:02:58] and yes and okay so Robin you'll come see you already been up here and this is
[1:03:05] for peeling rena go ahead and give us your your comment I had no issues with
[1:03:10] waiting just like you know as it relates to the appeal of rena perhaps
[1:03:21] a normal
[1:03:22] circumstances, I may agree with staff not to fight rena numbers, given the odds.
[1:03:29] However, we no longer find ourselves in normal circumstances.
[1:03:34] If the state believes in its roadmap to recovery, it should reevaluate rena.
[1:03:40] Recent events have crippled the United States and its citizens.
[1:03:44] Some people are scared for their health, some are on the edge of economic ruin.
[1:03:48] I would be surprised if Malongaire partners is not trying to change their existing application and or submit a new application giving the state of affairs we all find ourselves in.
[1:03:59] With that said, in the wake of this pandemic, the City of Laguna Hills has a moral imperative to do what is in the best interest of its residents and businesses.
[1:04:08] And as such, while finding, while funding is critically low, it is recommended the city higher
[1:04:15] third party urban planners who are very well versed in resilient cities and truly planning
[1:04:21] for the future, not just tomorrow.
[1:04:25] The public health crisis is suffocating citizens with isolation, threatening them with potential
[1:04:31] removal from their homes, if they're unable to isolate there, an on top of this financial
[1:04:37] room whether they are sick or not. It is not my intent to criticize government for actions
[1:04:42] taking during this time of declared emergency. However, this crisis does call into question
[1:04:48] the resiliency of the state of California, as well as the path that is on, specifically with
[1:04:54] statewide renau numbers, as it did not and does not account for public health crises and or
[1:05:00] economic crisis of this magnitude. Furthermore, the allocation of needs to set in California
[1:05:08] and specifically Orange County has shown that our state, it has shown state governments
[1:05:14] reckless disregard for citizens and businesses here. Therefore, there is a clear need to evaluate
[1:05:22] the significance of how rena numbers, as well as how large developments will impact the health
[1:05:28] and while being of not only Laguna House residents, but our greater communities.
[1:05:33] In the wake of COVID-19 pandemic, we must re-evaluate resiliency of our cities.
[1:05:42] City Council, it would be wonderful if City Council could galvanize orange counties,
[1:05:48] 34 cities, to fight Rina, and the Rina assessment.
[1:05:52] It is imperative not to use antiquated methodologies that were used for yesterday's cities,
[1:05:58] but modern methods that secure the health, safety, and economic well-being of not only tomorrow, but our future.
[1:06:06] And if the state believes in its resiliency road map, I would think that they would agree.
[1:06:12] Thank you.
[1:06:13] Thank you.
[1:06:14] Thank you, Mr. Chokums.
[1:06:15] I really appreciate your comments and staying here.
[1:06:18] Definitely a food for thought because we have a new normal, don't we, that we're all dealing with.
[1:06:25] All right, we will look at item 6.3, our community development director, Peel of the city's
[1:06:35] draft, regional housing needs assessment, which is renapped for the sixth cycle housing
[1:06:40] element.
[1:06:42] We're pulling that item.
[1:06:43] Oh, that's right.
[1:06:44] I'm sorry.
[1:06:44] Okay.
[1:06:45] We're pulling that item for now, but like I said, thank you for your comments, yes, definitely
[1:06:49] a lot to chew on.
[1:06:51] I'm going back to item number 6.2.
[1:06:56] Hold on.
[1:06:56] I'm a little confused.
[1:06:58] I'm sorry.
[1:06:59] 631 is being pulled.
[1:07:01] Yeah.
[1:07:01] It's being pulled because there's more information.
[1:07:04] Okay.
[1:07:05] Okay.
[1:07:06] Thank you.
[1:07:07] Okay.
[1:07:07] All right.
[1:07:08] So moving back.
[1:07:09] Mayer.
[1:07:10] Just for clarification.
[1:07:12] The benefit of Councilmember Wheeler and the public.
[1:07:14] Item 6.3.1 entitled appeal of the city's draft regional housing needs assessment for the sixth
[1:07:20] cycle housing element is being taken off calendar this evening so that staff can go back and acquire
[1:07:25] additional information. Things are changing so rapidly at the state level with the COVID-19
[1:07:30] response. It's affecting many different agencies including Skag. It is our recommendation that
[1:07:37] the site and be taken off calendar at this time and be returned at a future date when more information
[1:07:41] has been obtained. This that's not an action item, right? This has been removed. All right. Great. Thank
[1:07:47] All right, now she's time. Ms. Ray is financial update fiscal year 2019 2020 year in projections and the recommendation is the City Council receive and file the financial update for the fiscal year 2019 2020 year in projections.
[1:08:05] All right, go ahead.
[1:08:06] Good evening, Madam Mayor. Members of the City Council.
[1:08:08] The COVID-19 crisis has caused seismic impacts to the economy.
[1:08:15] As a result, cities everywhere face severe revenue shortfalls, along with cuts to
[1:08:20] setting programs and operations.
[1:08:22] Staff conducted a review of the city's revenues and expenditures to provide a financial
[1:08:27] update of the current 2019-2020 fiscal year.
[1:08:31] Your projections were provided in four financial reports which were distributed as attachments
[1:08:36] to the staff report in the City Council agenda packet for tonight's meeting.
[1:08:42] Percibidus declines were reported for general fund revenues from sales tax, transient
[1:08:47] occupancy tax, recreation program fees, and development service fees, additionally adverse
[1:08:53] effects on special revenues are expected on gas tax as well.
[1:08:58] Sales tax is projected to come in at roughly 5 million or 17% under budget.
[1:09:03] This projection does not include the potential cash flow impacts of the 90-day payment extension
[1:09:10] program and the 12-month installment plan.
[1:09:14] The year-in estimate for TOT is about 1 million, a shortfall of 333,000 or 25% under budget,
[1:09:23] as high vacancies are expected in the final quarter of fiscal year.
[1:09:28] The year and estimate for recreation fee revenues is roughly 331,000 or 62% under budget.
[1:09:37] Given that all facility reservations, classes and events have been canceled or postponed,
[1:09:42] and it is uncertain when community center will reopen.
[1:09:47] Given we are likely in a deeper session and the historical decline in development activity from the last
[1:09:53] great recession. The year-in estimate for development service B revenues are roughly 1.1 million,
[1:10:01] or 12 percent below budget.
[1:10:05] However, while there are anticipated decline in these revenues,
[1:10:10] the year-in projection for property tax, which represents just over 50 percent of general fund revenues,
[1:10:17] remain relatively unmodified, given assess values for this fiscal year, were established
[1:10:25] on January 1st, 2019, and tax bills for this fiscal year have, for the most part, been
[1:10:32] paid through April 2020.
[1:10:36] City expenditures in the general fund operating department budgets and the capital improvement
[1:10:41] program experience cuts and adjustments as well.
[1:10:44] Total operating expenditure is expected to come in under budget by roughly 755,000.
[1:10:53] Predominantly due to reductions in community services programs, as well as declines in community development
[1:10:59] and community service activities, and a freeze on membership, training, and travel expenditures.
[1:11:08] CIPs are expected to come under budget by 350,000.
[1:11:13] Notably, the deferment of CIPs funded by the general fund reduced general fund expenditures by roughly 150,000.
[1:11:22] In summary, it is expected that total revenue will be short by roughly 2,000.
[1:11:28] This shortfall is partially offset by the expected reduction in total expenditures of about 1.2 million.
[1:11:38] The overall anticipated result will be a decrease in total fund balance of over 800,000.
[1:11:45] More than what was budgeted.
[1:11:47] The good news is the city began the 2019-2020 fiscal year in a strong financial health.
[1:11:56] With a beginning, total fund balance of almost 900,000 above what was budgeted.
[1:12:03] This positive variance in beginning fund balance completely offsets the projected excess decline in fund balance.
[1:12:11] Hence, despite ending the fiscal year with an excess deficient, it is expected that the
[1:12:18] ending total fund balance will have a positive variance and excess fund balance of 83,000
[1:12:25] over what was budget.
[1:12:28] Staff anticipates, meeting its target fund balance policy ratios at year end.
[1:12:35] The unrestricted general fund policy target ratio is 35%, which staff anticipates exceeding
[1:12:44] The NSINE general fund policy target ratio is 25% which staff projects succeed at 32%.
[1:12:53] The operating reserve target ratio of 1.1 to 1 operator is expected to be met at 1.09
[1:13:02] before that service and at 1 after that service.
[1:13:07] It is certain that the economic impacts of COVID-19 will continue to affect the following fiscal year as well.
[1:13:16] Therefore, as the city manager previously mentioned, at the June 9th City Council meeting, staff will be presenting recommended budget cuts to the next 2020-2021 fiscal year.
[1:13:28] And that concludes my report.
[1:13:30] Thank you very much, Ms. Reyes.
[1:13:33] Do we have any questions from any of our council members here or via phone for Ms. Reyes?
[1:13:46] All right, hearing none.
[1:13:49] Thank you very much for your presentation.
[1:13:54] So we need to vote on moving steps.
[1:13:59] Okay, receive.
[1:13:59] Okay, so I'd like to entertain a motion to receive and file the financial update.
[1:14:06] Yeah, so much.
[1:14:08] All right, thank you, Ms. Gilbert.
[1:14:09] I'll make a motion about that.
[1:14:11] Back at.
[1:14:12] All right, seconded by Mayor Pertem Pazild.
[1:14:16] All in favor of the Council, Chamber say aye.
[1:14:20] Aye.
[1:14:22] Councilman Gilbert.
[1:14:26] Councilman Wheeler.
[1:14:29] Aye.
[1:14:30] Mayor Pertem Pazild.
[1:14:33] Aye.
[1:14:33] All right. Thank you. That passes unanimously.
[1:14:37] All right. We have our last item on our agenda and this is item 6.4 our deputy city manager Dave Reynolds and our community services director and I think it's important to note that we did have a hot memo item.
[1:15:00] That made some changes, so that's going to be something that will influence us. Go ahead, Mr. Reynolds.
[1:15:09] Sure. Madam Mayor and members of the city council, tonight we're going to be discussing the Fourth of July event.
[1:15:17] And our city manager, Mr. White, did a great job of summarizing the Governor's pandemic road map.
[1:15:25] So I don't need to go over that.
[1:15:28] I just would like to emphasize that the current governor's orders still prohibit the gathering
[1:15:36] of large events, and this prohibition most likely will continue for months to follow, and
[1:15:45] the Fourth of July event most assuredly falls into a large gathering.
[1:15:50] As historically we've seen from 7,000 to 10,000 people attend.
[1:15:57] It's a great event.
[1:16:00] We love hosting it.
[1:16:02] Recreation staff.
[1:16:03] It's one of our favorite events.
[1:16:07] But we're faced with a difficult decision tonight and a discussion of the event.
[1:16:16] Before I go, I would like to say that we are disappointed in the state of affairs that we
[1:16:21] But we understand the importance of public safety and welfare and aligning with the state's social distancing directive.
[1:16:33] With that said, we present two options in the staff report.
[1:16:37] Option one is to cancel the Fourth of July event in its entirety and to not execute the 2020 agreement with fireworks America for a fireworks show.
[1:16:50] This is staff's recommendation and there are several reasons why we recommend this.
[1:16:58] Number one, we just heard from our finance director who did a great job summarizing our
[1:17:04] city's finances.
[1:17:06] And we would like to dampen the impact of COVID-19 and the coronavirus pandemic on the city.
[1:17:14] So we recommend that we don't have the event nor do we have the firework show, and this
[1:17:21] would save in this current budget cycle, 56,460 dollars.
[1:17:28] Also we can't get around the current order for social distancing and how we would get around
[1:17:34] that if we hosted event or if we hosted a firework show only where individuals are encouraged
[1:17:42] to wash the show from home.
[1:17:46] We have been keeping track of what other cities are doing, and I provided a list, a table
[1:17:53] on the staff report that lists the plans, the status of where the cities are in terms of
[1:18:00] their shows.
[1:18:01] I just got a text from staff at Laguna Beach, and the Council did, approved to Council
[1:18:07] of the Fourth of July event, and their fireworks show, and there are others that are considering
[1:18:11] this in the weeks to come.
[1:18:16] Option two in staff report in the staff report is to execute an agreement
[1:18:20] with fireworks America for a fireworks show only where staff recommends the public would be encouraged
[1:18:29] to watch it from their home because again we are not encouraging in line with the governor's orders
[1:18:37] any public gatherings.
[1:18:41] To lead up to this we understand the importance of the consideration of
[1:18:45] firework show, so we worked in spirit of the letter that we received from Fireworks America
[1:18:50] dated April 16th, 2020, in which staff negotiated terms with Fireworks America, and we worked
[1:18:59] with the city's attorney's office to roll these terms in to the contract, and that contract
[1:19:06] is attached to the staff report, in essence what we negotiated in the spirit of the letter
[1:19:12] that we received was fireworks America recognized
[1:19:16] the financial situation that cities are in.
[1:19:18] So they reduced the deposit that's owed upon contract signing
[1:19:23] down to 25% which is roughly $6600.
[1:19:28] They also, the other term was to assure the city
[1:19:33] that we can cancel the show and postpone it
[1:19:37] to a future date up to labor day 2021
[1:19:41] or September 6, 2021, and fireworks America would retain the deposit and we would pay
[1:19:50] you the balance of the show upon the date that we fire it. I think it's 10 days or so
[1:19:56] after the fireworks show is fired, the balance is due. However, if we don't move on any
[1:20:05] our work show after the deadline of September 6th, 2021, then this city would forfeit that
[1:20:13] 25% deposit.
[1:20:15] We worked feverously on the contract negotiations and I felt that we had everything under
[1:20:22] wraps and so the agenda was posted and published and then I heard from fireworks America
[1:20:29] I believe are pressed and are in a heart shape, too, with the clients that they serve, and many
[1:20:37] changes occurring across the municipality landscape. They felt uncomfortable of not having any
[1:20:46] notification prior to the Fourth of July to not be able to recoup cost.
[1:20:56] So this is explained in the
[1:20:59] A lot of envelope item that was distributed to you, that Mayor Heft spoke to, and I believe
[1:21:05] that our city attorney had a direct salmonian perfectly summarized that objective of fireworks
[1:21:12] America to go back and revise the contract.
[1:21:17] And he writes that the fireworks vendor now wants monetary penalties to be imposed if the
[1:21:22] city is forced to cancel the July 4th, 2020 show.
[1:21:25] Due to COVID-19 related reasons, on less than 50 days, 15 days notice, in addition, they
[1:21:33] will retain the 25% deposit, or the 6,625 dollars, and this deposit will carry over
[1:21:41] into the rescheduled show.
[1:21:44] And this rescheduled show can be scheduled out as late as September 6, 2021.
[1:21:51] Now, if it's the city's desire to pursue option two in the staff report, I must direct you
[1:21:58] to the motion of the hot envelope item and the memo dated May 9th, 2021.
[1:22:05] That would be the motion that the city council would need to make to quickly articulate
[1:22:11] what staff in the city's office would need to do for contract negotiations with fireworks
[1:22:18] America to make a firework show only happen.
[1:22:24] That is my staff presentation and I'd be happy to answer any questions.
[1:22:28] I would like, as Mr. Rosenfield did, I would like to give a shout out to Dan Mehan.
[1:22:34] He's on the line too.
[1:22:36] He holds this stuff very dear and dear to his heart.
[1:22:38] He also wanted to listen to Mr. White's conversations and related to COVID-19 and the
[1:22:45] emergency ordinance.
[1:22:45] So, I'm going to see order, rather.
[1:22:48] So, I just wanted to give out the shout-outs in Mr. Mehan.
[1:22:51] With that, I'd be happy to take any questions that you might have.
[1:22:54] All right, do you need any questions?
[1:22:56] Yes.
[1:22:57] The Councilman, Governor, you have a question?
[1:23:00] No.
[1:23:01] I would like to support option one.
[1:23:04] Okay.
[1:23:06] All right.
[1:23:07] Do we have any other comments?
[1:23:12] All right.
[1:23:14] Councilman, Councilman Sejwik.
[1:23:16] Just a moment.
[1:23:17] Mayor Prism Pizzled.
[1:23:19] Thank you for that report and presentation.
[1:23:24] I was wondering if, well, first of all, let me say that I'm not in, a couple things
[1:23:30] that I'm personally not interested in.
[1:23:32] I'm not interested in doing a 4th of July celebration in August or September.
[1:23:35] I think the 4th of July 4th of July and we might miss it this year.
[1:23:38] We might miss it this year.
[1:23:40] We might miss it.
[1:23:40] But, yeah, but I'm also not interested in
[1:23:46] growing money, if it's unlikely that we're going to get permission to do this, given the
[1:23:54] state that we're in financially, I don't want to lose money on deposits, nor on the
[1:24:01] extra money that they're now asking for in addition to the deposit. I just don't, I don't
[1:24:06] think it's worth the risk. However, I wondered if we didn't, if we just, you know, postponing
[1:24:16] it for a couple more weeks and just because things change on a day-to-day basis, what happened
[1:24:24] if, you know, are they saying that you got to decide now because we need, you know, this
[1:24:28] much time in order to order our supplies for the firework show, could we just sit on it
[1:24:35] for a couple of weeks?
[1:24:38] Madam Mayor, members of the City Council, the answer is, I don't know, what I can say and
[1:24:45] What I do know is the letter that we received dated April 16th, where they offered their
[1:24:52] clients this 50% discount in the deposit had a deadline of April 1st because I'm sorry.
[1:25:00] May 1st.
[1:25:00] May 1st.
[1:25:01] Thank you.
[1:25:03] Hey, being in this council chambers is bizarre, so we lose sense of time too.
[1:25:13] So, in our conversations with Fireworks America, I apologize council member Gilbert.
[1:25:21] We knew that they had the deadline of May 1st because they had to set up for resources.
[1:25:26] They can program the show for 4th of July to be synchronized to music.
[1:25:31] That's a labor intensive effort for programming.
[1:25:36] But in our negotiations with fireworks America, they agreed that, okay, the drop dead date is May 12th
[1:25:43] so that we can gear up for the Fourth of July.
[1:25:45] That's what I do know.
[1:25:47] Okay.
[1:25:47] What I don't know is if they would want business and we could defer it.
[1:25:53] Well, I think that they could easily pull a synchronized program from a year, a year's
[1:25:59] past and just put it on if they, you know, without having to, I don't think we need.
[1:26:03] If we were to somehow get, you know, the latitude from the state to be able to handle some things and sort of fireworks,
[1:26:12] I don't think we would agree. We don't need to do any of the other activities that happen.
[1:26:17] We can limit it to just a fireworks show.
[1:26:20] I don't think that the community would support being able to look out their backyard and be able to try to see it.
[1:26:26] I'll just watch it on TV, I mean, to me that's not money well spent.
[1:26:31] I would say, if we can see it, we can see it.
[1:26:35] Hold on just second half.
[1:26:36] I wouldn't do it.
[1:26:38] And I think we just take our chances.
[1:26:40] Sit on it, and if they cancel it on us fine, but if they don't, we just wait a couple of weeks
[1:26:45] and see if something changes, and maybe we won't be able to find somebody to put it on,
[1:26:51] given a short timeframe, or maybe we could.
[1:26:53] If we're, you know, June 1st, we've realized that we would be able to do this.
[1:26:58] We could scramble and see if we can.
[1:26:59] We realize the risks that we may not be able to.
[1:27:02] We understand that, but we're not ready to, I mean, personally,
[1:27:06] I'm not ready to put out money on the slight chance it would be able to do this at this point.
[1:27:13] I would echo Mr. Sedgwick's comments in that every single day, things are changing.
[1:27:20] We're getting more information, we're finding out new statistics and at this point I don't think we need to be in a hurry to make a decision tonight
[1:27:30] We will still have over a month left over once we hit our May 26 meeting and in terms of our options I think we would want to leave them open
[1:27:43] And, you know, just real quickly, what does the Fourth of July mean?
[1:27:50] It means freedom.
[1:27:51] It means being able to celebrate something, looking at the red, white, and blue, beautiful
[1:27:56] bumps.
[1:27:57] We're seeing a mid-air.
[1:27:59] Yeah, just a moment.
[1:28:00] Mayer?
[1:28:01] Mayer?
[1:28:01] You have.
[1:28:02] Mayer.
[1:28:03] Mayer.
[1:28:03] Mayer.
[1:28:03] Mayer.
[1:28:07] Mayer.
[1:28:07] I will be finished with my comments, so I just want to make just a comment.
[1:28:11] I've been listening to everyone and I'd appreciate the same courtesy my way, thank you.
[1:28:17] I think that we've seen and we've heard that people are beaten down, there's domestic violence
[1:28:22] on the rise, there's suicide on the rise, depression, just a lot of things, and if there
[1:28:28] was a way in the future to be able to save for the July, somehow, some way I would be in
[1:28:34] of that, but I would be in favor tonight of tabling this and seeing what happens in 14 days
[1:28:41] and we can look at it then. I'd like to entertain a substitute motion to do that, so we have
[1:28:51] more time to see what happens.
[1:28:53] Yes, go ahead. I'm Councilman Gilbert.
[1:28:57] Thank you. There is no way we are going to have
[1:29:03] it. It's just
[1:29:19] not to gather people.
[1:29:32] I don't I don't see a down side. I don't I don't see a down side and waiting I'm not done
[1:29:38] I'm not done. I wasn't in and also there's no way we can have a firework show with people watching their backyards because that number is going to be a very small number of people and we're going to help that will be able to see that. So that's really that should even be
[1:30:00] On this, from a financial standpoint, and if we do save money voting,
[1:30:09] not have the force that your life celebration, tonight, we should do it, if it's going to cost us money to wait two weeks and do it.
[1:30:19] All right, I'd like to go ahead, Mayor Pertemp Hazel, and then I have a question for Mr.
[1:30:25] Summonian.
[1:30:26] Go ahead.
[1:30:30] What we're dealing with, professional football, baseball, hockey, soccer, they're all
[1:30:40] closing down.
[1:30:41] People are not gathering, it is not, it is irresponsible for us as a city to encourage
[1:30:50] gathering of large crowds. And that's what will happen. People want to gather to the locations
[1:30:55] where they can use a firework. So it is not responsible for us as leaders to use our
[1:31:04] tax dollars to encourage that. At this time I love firework. It's my favorite event. And this
[1:31:14] It was very hard for me to talk about this, but I agree with council member Gilbert.
[1:31:20] It is not responsible for us at this time, city, lagoon and a yell.
[1:31:24] I just spoke to a number of different city council members and they have pamphled everything.
[1:31:32] And I don't know why we, after we received the financial report of how much money we have
[1:31:40] And the impact, the grave impact, why we would have firework when we have a lot bigger issues to deal with.
[1:31:52] I would like to focus our time on trying to find tools to get people back to work.
[1:32:01] So that's, we have, we have, we have the, all right, thank you.
[1:32:07] All right, Mr. Wheeler, do you have any comments?
[1:32:11] On this, since everyone else is waiting?
[1:32:13] No, I do.
[1:32:15] Okay, all right, thank you.
[1:32:17] All right, I'd like to entertain a motion.
[1:32:22] At this point, which is the third option, just a table this, and if so be it,
[1:32:27] That's what ends up happening down the road and nothing has changed.
[1:32:32] Then we can easily do what we would be doing tonight and that would be voting on it.
[1:32:37] I'd like to make the motion to table this until the 26th. Do I have a second?
[1:32:42] Oh, sorry.
[1:32:43] All right. I have a motion and I have a second.
[1:32:47] All in favor of that say aye.
[1:32:49] I do.
[1:32:50] I do.
[1:32:51] I'm going to.
[1:32:52] I'm sorry. What was that?
[1:32:55] Yeah hold on I got to do this you have a comment before we vote
[1:33:02] Yes, yeah, okay, go ahead, please
[1:33:05] The question is simple will it cost us anything to table
[1:33:13] Actually that was what I wanted to ask
[1:33:15] Okay, hold on hold on everybody. It's hard to hear I was gonna ask Mr. Simone and to since he's the one who would be negotiating involved in that is that something that
[1:33:31] And so is that something that would negatively influence us financially by waiting two weeks, or at this point, is that open to us?
[1:33:41] I would think that there could be other possible companies out there, if somehow that were the decision that did get made, that would be jumping at the chance in light of the economic development.
[1:33:54] Thank you, Mayor, members of the Council to echo Mr. Reynolds comment tonight.
[1:33:59] The answer to that question is, I don't know. As we sit here this evening, we have already
[1:34:04] blown fireworks America's deadline to get a response back to them. They wanted an answer
[1:34:08] back by May 1st. It took this long to get to Council. They negotiated terms and conditions
[1:34:15] with city staff. We typed up the contract as soon as we published the contract in the agenda
[1:34:20] the fireworks America yet again, changed the terms and conditions, issued new demands to ensure
[1:34:26] that the city had monetary penalties imposed, should there be an early and late cancellation
[1:34:32] of the fireworks show due to COVID-19-related reasons?
[1:34:38] Is it possible that if you tabled it and took no action that fireworks America would once again
[1:34:43] change the terms and conditions and increase the penalties or increase the cost of the
[1:34:47] show?
[1:34:48] That's a possibility. I'm sure probably unlikely at this point, but based on the way they've conducted themselves so far
[1:34:55] I don't believe myself or Mr Reynolds can answer that question. We just don't know what they would do if we went back to them and told them
[1:35:03] This item has been continued for further discussion and deliberation on May 26
[1:35:07] Well, considering the motion.
[1:35:11] Yeah. No, we already have a motion on the floor.
[1:35:16] Substitute motion for it.
[1:35:18] No, he has allowed to.
[1:35:20] I don't think he can access to your motion.
[1:35:22] During May, I've got to go first.
[1:35:23] Oh, okay.
[1:35:25] Hold on.
[1:35:26] One person in time.
[1:35:27] I believe Mr.
[1:35:28] I'm here.
[1:35:30] I'm here.
[1:35:30] I'm here.
[1:35:31] My question.
[1:35:32] One of they change the contract.
[1:35:34] More penalties are higher for us.
[1:35:35] if they're going to double price, would we wait to wait?
[1:35:37] If we wait two weeks, we would cost a zero if we say no.
[1:35:41] We wouldn't want to have the three things out.
[1:35:44] We don't know.
[1:35:45] How could they charge us properly?
[1:35:48] I don't understand how we can be held out.
[1:35:49] Are they going to charge us or not?
[1:35:51] We don't want to have that happen.
[1:35:52] They wouldn't agree with anything.
[1:35:54] Madam Mayor, for me?
[1:35:55] Yes, please.
[1:35:56] The Chancellor, Councillor Miller.
[1:35:59] We're currently not imposing any costs.
[1:36:01] We're not being charged for anything to negotiate with firework America.
[1:36:04] The city is not spending any money on this negotiation.
[1:36:08] We do not have a current contract with fireworks America.
[1:36:11] There is no fireworks show, there is no fireworks event.
[1:36:14] We have no contract with fireworks America this time.
[1:36:16] We haven't spent a penny.
[1:36:17] We haven't spent a penny.
[1:36:18] What we're talking about is, does the city wish to enter into a new contract
[1:36:23] with fireworks America for the July 4th 2020 show?
[1:36:26] Yes or no.
[1:36:28] And the only option in the third option is the mayor is
[1:36:30] correctly articulated is to take no action at this time
[1:36:33] wait and see what the governor does, wait and see what the state of California does, see
[1:36:37] where we're at 14 days from now and bring this item back for further discussion and deliberation
[1:36:43] at that time.
[1:36:45] All right, I believe, thank you, Mr. Smoney. I believe there was a substitute motion, Mr. Gilbert.
[1:36:52] Yeah, my motion would be to not have the fireworks show and vote now.
[1:37:02] All right, it's moved. Do I have a second?
[1:37:06] Okay, it's been moved and seconded, and how do we take Mr.
[1:37:10] Smooney and Robert's rules of order?
[1:37:13] Protocol, how do we take motions that are on the table?
[1:37:17] Yes.
[1:37:18] So you have a properly formatted underlying motion by Council Member Heft and seconded by Council Member
[1:37:25] Sejwik, which is to table the item until May 26 and bring it back.
[1:37:30] You now have a substitute motion properly formatted with a motion by Council Member Gilbert
[1:37:35] Seconded by Mayor Protempazel, according to Council policy and established protocol, it's
[1:37:40] appropriate at this time to rule on the substitute motion and to call for a vote.
[1:37:44] All right.
[1:37:45] So the substitute motion has been read into the record by Mr. Simone and all in favor.
[1:37:54] Do we have any discussion on that substitute motion?
[1:37:57] I think we've right been kind of talking about that.
[1:38:01] Is there any discussion on that substitute motion?
[1:38:05] All right, hearing none, I will call for a vote in the chambers.
[1:38:11] My vote is no.
[1:38:13] All right, I have two notes in the chambers.
[1:38:17] Mayor Patent Paisal.
[1:38:27] Sorry, it cut out.
[1:38:29] Okay, I'm going to ask for your vote on the substitute motion.
[1:38:32] They count some in.
[1:38:34] Gilbert is putting forth.
[1:38:36] There's there you have a you have two notes from here in the chambers.
[1:38:40] What is your vote?
[1:38:42] My vote is to support council member Gilbert.
[1:38:47] Yes.
[1:38:47] So that's a yes.
[1:38:49] All right.
[1:38:50] Councilman Gilbert.
[1:38:54] All right.
[1:38:54] Councilman Wheeler.
[1:39:01] To the fourth of July.
[1:39:02] It's my favorite holiday.
[1:39:03] There's any chance we can have it.
[1:39:04] I'd like to contend with operations.
[1:39:07] So my vote is no.
[1:39:08] All right.
[1:39:09] Then that motion fails.
[1:39:11] We have another motion on the table.
[1:39:15] And that is the original motion that
[1:39:18] that has been moved in seconded.
[1:39:22] All right, I will take a vote on that one now.
[1:39:24] That's out as a proper protocol.
[1:39:26] Is there any other comments?
[1:39:28] I believe we've been coming in this thing to death.
[1:39:30] Any other comments?
[1:39:33] All right.
[1:39:33] I have a comment.
[1:39:35] You have a comment on that one?
[1:39:36] Go ahead.
[1:39:37] All right.
[1:39:38] Yes.
[1:39:39] I am concerned because we are dealing
[1:39:42] with a vendor who is moving and innocent.
[1:39:50] I don't know exactly what we will be dealing with if we divide to try to enter into some agreement whether it goes up or down.
[1:39:59] I think that by encouraging that sort of, it's just not a good way to enter into a contract with a vendor.
[1:40:08] If that, if vendors kind of play games in my sense, in a way, I just don't think that's another reason why we shouldn't enter into a contract with them.
[1:40:16] Well, at this point, we haven't entered into anything, we haven't spent a dime one and so
[1:40:25] any other comments?
[1:40:29] All right, hearing none, I will take this for a vote.
[1:40:34] All in favor of table lean till May 26 in the Chamber say aye.
[1:40:41] All right. All right. All in.
[1:40:45] Faith or actually, let me get the vote for the phone.
[1:40:48] Excuse me. A lot to keep up with here.
[1:40:51] All right. The phone mayer pretend.
[1:40:55] Paisled. What is your vote?
[1:40:57] No.
[1:40:58] All right.
[1:41:01] Councilman Gilbert.
[1:41:02] What is your vote?
[1:41:10] Councilman Gilbert?
[1:41:14] No. No. Okay. Thank you.
[1:41:17] Councilman Wheeler. What is your vote?
[1:41:22] Okay, I believe that does pass, so we will table and I think moving on to
[1:41:33] item 7 matters
[1:41:36] agenda is presented by City Council members. I don't believe we have any is that correct?
[1:41:42] All right, thank you. City Council member comments. It's a different world we live in. Do we have any
[1:41:47] Council member comments on the phone or in the chambers?
[1:41:55] Go ahead and mayer potential.
[1:41:59] Yeah.
[1:42:01] I, so I would like seeing how we have it on the lecturing coming up.
[1:42:08] I would like to see, or I guess,
[1:42:13] what good a hill isn't need to be void of any major
[1:42:19] I'm sorry, I didn't hear you, any major what?
[1:42:23] Campaign donor plants.
[1:42:25] Major, he's he and donor influences.
[1:42:28] Most of the providers standing have women on their campaign donation.
[1:42:36] Our neighboring city was going to be dealt with a campaign donation of $1,000.
[1:42:41] I think it is not unreasonable to have campaign donation limits, and I am asking for one of my fellow colleagues to support this debate.
[1:43:01] I also have another, which I think we need to discuss the idea of having extra outdoor seating for restaurants.
[1:43:14] In the public, we'll be in issue for the future and restrooms may need to limit the numbers
[1:43:22] that they have.
[1:43:24] It would be nice to have a discussion about something as to a way to offer for outdoor
[1:43:33] seating to be available to restrooms that wish to have outdoor seating so that they don't
[1:43:39] reduce their income.
[1:43:41] Is that discussed in this program?
[1:43:45] outdoor seating is that discussed in this road map at all?
[1:43:49] They come out with industry recommendations as they roll it out.
[1:43:53] Those have not come out yet.
[1:43:57] All right.
[1:43:57] Well, then that sounds like something that our governor has not given specific information on,
[1:44:04] but I would definitely be in favor of that.
[1:44:06] I think that any restaurant that has a patio should definitely be able to see people
[1:44:10] because it has outdoor.
[1:44:11] So I would agree with that.
[1:44:14] I'm not understanding what's happening.
[1:44:18] I want to clarify.
[1:44:20] I'm just saying I would agree with that.
[1:44:22] But I don't understand.
[1:44:26] Go ahead.
[1:44:30] The first item my understanding is on the Council member,
[1:44:35] Puzzled, would like to have the limit on campaign contributions
[1:44:39] on the next agenda under her on matters of gender is by council members. I heard Dr. Gilbert give a second to that.
[1:44:50] So that item will pursue into city council policy appear on the next agenda.
[1:44:56] 26. Alright. Okay, I am not clear.
[1:45:00] That what council member Puzzled was asking was to place the item on restaurant seating on the next agenda under her, or not, or if that was just a discussion item.
[1:45:12] So that's the clarification that I need.
[1:45:15] Is that something we even have control over as a city?
[1:45:20] Well, if there's no restriction against it, the more the better I agree, but I'm just, I guess I'm looking to understand that you agree.
[1:45:29] I need to know if that needs to go on the agenda next time.
[1:45:32] I don't know what council member presolves intention was.
[1:45:35] Yeah, we can't actually deliver it on whether we, I think we should do it or not.
[1:45:40] That's to be done if we just want to know if we want to agenda.
[1:45:43] Okay, that's fine.
[1:45:45] And so I would need someone who would agree with that.
[1:45:48] I guess I'm just.
[1:45:49] Someone who wants to have an agenda.
[1:45:50] Anyone?
[1:45:51] Yeah, would anybody like to see that agenda?
[1:45:54] Sure.
[1:45:55] I agree.
[1:45:57] Okay.
[1:45:57] So those two items will appear on the agenda for next time.
[1:46:03] Any other comments, may I pretend, Hazel?
[1:46:08] No, thank you.
[1:46:10] All right.
[1:46:11] Councilman Gilbert, do you have any comments?
[1:46:15] No, I don't.
[1:46:16] Thank you.
[1:46:17] All right.
[1:46:19] Councilman Wheeler, do you have any comments?
[1:46:23] Just one comment.
[1:46:25] It's been a long time since we've heard from the lone guy.
[1:46:28] I realize the world has turned upside down.
[1:46:30] But I'd like to know what their intentions plans are, and they didn't anything, the last time he talked, and they talked that.
[1:46:43] Yeah, I'd be happy to give any council members individual briefings on the status of that right now.
[1:46:49] So I'm available by telephone.
[1:46:53] I think that's a very good idea.
[1:46:55] I'd like to see that done in public.
[1:46:58] I'd like to see that done in public as much as possible.
[1:47:00] So at this point, I believe nothing has been shared with the public, and so I think that's
[1:47:07] something that would need to be not done on a official basis, because there's nothing
[1:47:15] presentable by Merlon Gaia, correct?
[1:47:18] If I...
[1:47:18] At this point, it would be inappropriate, I think, to give a public presentation.
[1:47:24] There are too many balls in the air.
[1:47:27] Once again, we have a pandemic going on.
[1:47:31] I think that change is a lot of things, we're working with Merlon Gyer, we're having meetings with them,
[1:47:37] but it's just not right for prime time.
[1:47:41] All right. Any other comments? Mr. Sedgwick, I'd like to make any comments?
[1:47:47] Okay, the one thing I just wanted to share with my colleagues is that I was invited by Katherine Chetara.
[1:47:53] She is the CEO of COO, excuse me, of the sound of a hospital.
[1:47:58] To take a tour of the hospital, and I took a group on that offer today, and was a fantastic
[1:48:04] tour.
[1:48:05] I have to give just a major shout out like Mr. Reynolds did to the hospital and say that they're
[1:48:12] doing an absolutely fantastic job.
[1:48:16] They are definitely prepared and ready to take on any surge that might happen.
[1:48:22] They've been changing the rooms to add a negative air pressure option for different rooms.
[1:48:31] They have their ICU separated.
[1:48:34] They have a brilliant scheme that they're using their color scheme.
[1:48:38] We recently, as a council, voted on their new color schemes, which were green orange and purple.
[1:48:44] And they walked me through the hospital and you can see green and orange and purple tape in different locations of the hospital.
[1:48:52] Green is non-COVID, anything that's not related to COVID, orange is kind of something in
[1:48:59] between where someone may be COVID positive, but it's not serious, and purple is where
[1:49:06] you have like an ICU series situation with COVID, and all of the different hospital personnel
[1:49:12] have been instructed on how everything will work under this new protocol, they've literally
[1:49:18] put up drywall, they've brought in equipment, they've done many, many things, and it's been
[1:49:23] it's just been absolute tremendous. One of the things the hospital is asking for us to do
[1:49:27] as a city is to let them know, let people know that this is a safe place to come. That this
[1:49:33] is a place that they don't have to worry about anything happening because they've made the proper
[1:49:39] changes in the way the hospital is situated to bring people to the right place for the right thing.
[1:49:46] And they're asking us to put that on our website, which I heartily recommend letting them know that, you know,
[1:49:54] settle back as a place where you can come. You don't have to worry about being exposed to COVID-19, because that will be a separate place.
[1:50:03] And I just wanted to have a nice positive story for a change, and I also wanted to let everyone know that as Ms. Yokem said earlier in her public comment,
[1:50:18] And this Thursday at 430 p.m.
[1:50:22] Southerba Costs Federal is going to be entertaining a thank you parade.
[1:50:27] There is a church up in Anaheim, and they have offered to come down here to the Gunna Hills
[1:50:33] and to have a nice parade, and I would like to invite my colleagues if they'd like to
[1:50:40] come and help show our thank you to Southerba back in one of our largest employers in
[1:50:46] the city.
[1:50:48] They're support for the city, you know, we're all going through this in so many different ways.
[1:50:53] And so I'd like to put that out there so please get in touch with me.
[1:50:56] If you'd like to do that and I think that's all my comments.
[1:51:00] So if there's nothing else I'll go ahead and I will adjourn this meeting to our next meeting on May 26th.