1 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:31,380 All right, six o'clock, we'll call the meeting to order here and we'll start with a pledge of allegiance. All right, thank you everybody 2 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:40,240 for joining us on this rainy night. We'll call the meeting to order and start with introductions to my left. 3 00:00:51,780 --> 00:00:53,180 continued. 4 00:00:53,620 --> 00:00:54,420 Mitchell Rigglin. 5 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:55,280 Public Works Director. 6 00:00:55,660 --> 00:00:56,880 Michelle Sidel, City Clerk. 7 00:00:59,980 --> 00:01:00,240 Director. 8 00:01:00,960 --> 00:01:02,380 Dr. O'Millie, Finance Director. 9 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:04,400 Thank you everyone for being here tonight. 10 00:01:04,660 --> 00:01:07,340 Council members, we have an agenda before us. 11 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:09,800 Is there any amendments or a motion to adopt? 12 00:01:11,860 --> 00:01:12,620 I'll move to adopt. 13 00:01:13,060 --> 00:01:13,460 I'll second. 14 00:01:13,820 --> 00:01:13,960 Okay. 15 00:01:14,020 --> 00:01:14,840 We have a motion to second. 16 00:01:15,320 --> 00:01:16,020 All those in favour? 17 00:01:16,220 --> 00:01:16,980 Please say aye. 18 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:17,680 Aye. 19 00:01:18,140 --> 00:01:18,560 Any opposed? 20 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:19,640 Not hearing any. 21 00:01:19,780 --> 00:01:21,180 We'll move forward with the agenda. 22 00:01:22,380 --> 00:01:24,420 And we have public forum. 23 00:01:24,620 --> 00:01:25,460 Is anybody signed up? 24 00:01:25,620 --> 00:01:25,700 No. 25 00:01:25,700 --> 00:01:44,400 Okay, thank you all right consent agenda we have multiple items on there is there a motion and a second to get things started and then we can have discussion on the individual items if so move second all right we have motion in a second and any discussion. 26 00:01:45,780 --> 00:01:50,920 Yes, I want to thank Peter Hogan for volunteering to come to the utility board. 27 00:01:51,900 --> 00:01:57,800 Also, I want to congratulate Isaiah Weinerick as a new video recorder, which I know he's 28 00:01:57,800 --> 00:01:58,780 going to do a great job. 29 00:02:00,300 --> 00:02:04,960 And I guess we're hiring Josh Smith back as a part-time police officer, so thank you. 30 00:02:05,740 --> 00:02:06,000 Excellent. 31 00:02:06,500 --> 00:02:07,160 Anybody else? 32 00:02:08,420 --> 00:02:09,200 Not hearing any. 33 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,320 We have a motion in a second to adopt the consent agenda. 34 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:14,900 All those in favor, please say aye. 35 00:02:15,460 --> 00:02:15,700 Aye. 36 00:02:16,020 --> 00:02:16,520 Any opposed? 37 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:17,940 Not hearing any. 38 00:02:18,020 --> 00:02:18,640 That passes. 39 00:02:19,700 --> 00:02:20,600 All right. 40 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:21,900 A new business. 41 00:02:22,300 --> 00:02:27,140 We have a public hearing for ambulance charges for 42 00:02:27,140 --> 00:02:31,680 Wabishock County Resolution 260030 and 43 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:37,260 certification of nuisance violation Wabishock County Resolution 26031 and 44 00:02:37,260 --> 00:02:54,780 Fire Charges, Wabusha County Resolution 26032, and Fire Charges Goodview County Resolution 26033, and Delinquent Utilities, Wabusha County Resolution 26034, and Jerome, do you have an opening for that one? 45 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:56,240 What's that? 46 00:02:56,620 --> 00:02:58,400 Do we have anything before we open the public hearing? 47 00:02:58,700 --> 00:02:59,760 No, I don't. 48 00:03:00,060 --> 00:03:05,500 Maybe I can just give a little background, and then obviously if there's questions as we go through the hearing process, we can do that. 49 00:03:06,660 --> 00:03:14,800 We do this annually, this time of year, basically doing when charges like Mayor Quinn just ran through. 50 00:03:16,380 --> 00:03:21,380 We send out notices, repetitive notices, I know I had a few questions on that, we send out notices. 51 00:03:22,180 --> 00:03:23,660 So these aren't anything new. 52 00:03:24,140 --> 00:03:31,940 And then we send out a final notice, basically saying, if you don't take care of this by August 15th, 53 00:03:31,940 --> 00:03:33,920 we're gonna be assessing it at the hearing 54 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:36,260 with the date and the time of the hearing tonight. 55 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:40,040 So, there's usually ample notice on these things. 56 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:42,480 We just don't do one notice and that's it. 57 00:03:42,900 --> 00:03:46,680 So, in some of these, as you'll know in the RCA 58 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:47,540 that's written up here, 59 00:03:47,660 --> 00:03:50,460 I've sent out multiple notices, but some took care of it. 60 00:03:50,940 --> 00:03:53,380 And obviously, some dent, which is before you hear. 61 00:03:54,020 --> 00:03:58,420 The thing to note is we're not assessing an individual person, 62 00:03:58,700 --> 00:04:00,580 we're assessing the property at which they live in. 63 00:04:00,580 --> 00:04:08,950 We assess the property idea of where they reside, so yeah, the information's there and 64 00:04:08,950 --> 00:04:16,850 this includes ambulance fire, utilities, and then nuisances as well, so we're not required 65 00:04:16,850 --> 00:04:20,390 to have a hearing, but we have done that to standard practice in the past, so. 66 00:04:21,130 --> 00:04:26,010 All right, so we will look for a motion in a second to open the public hearing. 67 00:04:26,010 --> 00:04:33,370 Can I just ask a question quick, Jerome, were these people all informed that they could come to a public hearing? 68 00:04:33,430 --> 00:04:55,750 Yeah, in the notice it's basically said, when we sent them out on the first part of July, they were sent to notice it says, we're here by, we have this going to charge, here's what it is, you have to take care of it, if you don't take care of it, we're going to assess it, you have the right to come to the council meeting to voice your concerns during that process of, if they didn't want to reach out to staff and work with staff on that. 69 00:04:56,310 --> 00:04:59,770 In some instances I know a couple of them on the ambulance side worked out pain and 70 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:24,880 and that's fine, too. So we do work, try and work with people before it gets to the state at which it's at right now. Very good. Very good. Thank you. Any other comments? Do we have a motion in a second to open the public hearing? So moved. I'll second it. Okay. We have a motion in a second. And all those in favor to open the public hearing. Please say aye. Okay. We are in public hearing. Do we have anyone that would like to speak to this matter? Any 71 00:05:28,430 --> 00:05:32,870 moment, if there is anybody that would like to speak to this matter, please step forward. 72 00:05:32,870 --> 00:05:33,550 And 73 00:05:36,500 --> 00:05:41,420 final call, if there's anyone that would like to speak at the public hearing, please step forward. 74 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:42,120 Not 75 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:45,180 hearing anyone. 76 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:50,080 We will accept a motion in a second to close the public hearing. 77 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,340 So, I'm going to get that. 78 00:05:57,090 --> 00:05:57,330 Okay. 79 00:05:58,030 --> 00:06:01,270 All those in favor to close the public hearing, please say aye. 80 00:06:01,610 --> 00:06:01,790 Aye. 81 00:06:02,530 --> 00:06:02,690 Okay. 82 00:06:02,930 --> 00:06:03,230 Very good. 83 00:06:03,670 --> 00:06:08,490 Now, any discussion on the resolutions before we start doing motions here? 84 00:06:08,490 --> 00:06:08,550 Yeah, 85 00:06:12,380 --> 00:06:17,380 different procedural purposes we have just because we're sending notices to multiple counties for multiple different things 86 00:06:17,380 --> 00:06:19,360 That's why there's multiple resolutions. 87 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:20,700 Absolutely, yeah, and so on. 88 00:06:20,700 --> 00:06:25,760 Yeah, we're clearly aware of why and do it all in one because there are two different counties and there are different types of charges and they 89 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,300 Can apply differently to statutes, so not a problem. 90 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:36,260 Do is there any questions to 26-030 and that was Wabusha County for ambulance charges? 91 00:06:36,280 --> 00:06:39,380 If not, do we have a motion in a second to approve? 92 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:40,080 So moved. 93 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:40,900 Second. 94 00:06:40,900 --> 00:06:44,860 Okay, we have a motion in a second. All those in favor? Please say aye. 95 00:06:45,260 --> 00:06:49,980 Aye. Any opposed? Not hearing any? 26, 0, 3, 0 passes. 96 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:54,640 And any questions or discussion on 26, 0, 3, 1? 97 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:57,320 Motion to approve. 98 00:06:58,180 --> 00:06:58,740 Aye, second. 99 00:06:59,180 --> 00:07:02,460 I have a motion in a second. All those in favor? Please say aye. 100 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:04,080 Aye. Any opposed? 101 00:07:04,900 --> 00:07:08,180 Not hearing any of that passes. 26, 0, 3, 1. 102 00:07:09,120 --> 00:07:10,320 Add 26-032. 103 00:07:11,380 --> 00:07:12,860 Do we have a motion in a second or any discussion? 104 00:07:15,180 --> 00:07:15,560 A motion. 105 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:16,840 Second. 106 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:18,540 You have a motion in a second. 107 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:20,780 All those in favor, please say aye. 108 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:21,640 Aye. 109 00:07:22,340 --> 00:07:22,900 Any opposed? 110 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:24,560 I'm not hearing any. 111 00:07:24,700 --> 00:07:25,440 That passes. 112 00:07:26,340 --> 00:07:28,920 On to 26-033. 113 00:07:29,460 --> 00:07:31,220 Fire charges for Goodview County. 114 00:07:31,600 --> 00:07:32,600 Do we have a motion in a second? 115 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:33,140 Still moved. 116 00:07:33,580 --> 00:07:33,880 Second. 117 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:34,960 Okay. 118 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:36,220 Any discussion? 119 00:07:36,660 --> 00:07:39,340 If not, all those in favor, please say aye. 120 00:07:39,340 --> 00:07:40,900 Aye. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? 121 00:07:41,620 --> 00:07:43,460 Not hearing any. That one passes. 122 00:07:45,220 --> 00:07:48,740 And 26034 for Delinquent Utility Wabashak County. 123 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:51,860 Do we have motion of second? So moved. Second. 124 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:57,220 And any discussion? Not hearing any? All those in favor? Please say aye. 125 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:01,480 Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Not hearing any. That passes as well. 126 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,540 I'm just checking with staff. We caught all of them, I believe. 127 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:07,280 on 128 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:22,560 to 5B, request to approve Resolution 26029 for de-certification of TIFF District 13. 129 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:25,320 So you're sorry? 130 00:08:25,780 --> 00:08:25,940 Yes. 131 00:08:27,860 --> 00:08:36,460 I know I took this item to poor authority as well since it affects their stuff. 132 00:08:36,460 --> 00:08:41,900 Basically, it's an old TIFF district that was created back in 2004. 133 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:48,380 It's a redevelopment district, redevelopment districts have a 26 year payback period. 134 00:08:49,940 --> 00:08:55,240 Obviously, this district's been open since that point, redevelopment hasn't occurred 135 00:08:55,240 --> 00:08:56,040 in that area. 136 00:08:56,800 --> 00:09:03,020 At this point, where the district is at, if redevelopment were to occur, at some point 137 00:09:03,020 --> 00:09:06,740 along the way. Most likely this district would get decertified like we're doing 138 00:09:06,740 --> 00:09:11,500 tonight. And a new project would come forward, a new tip district could be 139 00:09:11,500 --> 00:09:16,280 created and we move forward with a project because it wouldn't be economically 140 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:20,360 feasible with where we're at with the life that's left in this district that's due 141 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:25,400 to expire in 2033 I believe to keep it open and just wouldn't be financially 142 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:30,640 viable. All it's doing is just an administrative burden because we got to do an 143 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,140 The annual TIFF report, it serves no purpose. 144 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:42,400 There was entries done on books that were needed to be done to keep the district active at the time. 145 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:49,140 Basically when we're decertifying it, we're closing those, basically closing off the books and getting clean in it up. 146 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:54,040 I put some financial statements in there, mainly on the poor authority side just so 147 00:09:54,040 --> 00:09:58,240 we knew what was occurring there would be very similar on the general fund side as well. 148 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:29,920 It's a non-cash transaction because the cash has been spent years ago, back when the district was created. So, I see no reason to keep this thing open. We would be certified as of 1231-26. In there is obviously, I'm going to send a copy of the resolution to the state, along with the de-certification form once the county auditor assigned off on it. That gets sent to the state. The district is de-certified. We'll have one last tiff report. 149 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:37,240 to do for 2026 at that point and then it will be closed so when we took it to 150 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,900 poor authority at their August meeting they had no concerns with moving it 151 00:10:40,900 --> 00:10:46,640 forward as well so with that I guess I'll answer any questions. I think you 152 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:50,640 said it well Jerome but just to make it clear for the public we're not spending the 153 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:55,500 money tonight that's been spent years ago and we're essentially just writing off 154 00:10:55,500 --> 00:10:57,500 the old receivable obligations. 155 00:10:58,000 --> 00:10:58,880 Correct, clearing the books. 156 00:10:59,320 --> 00:10:59,420 Correct. 157 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,840 There was entries done by the prior finance director 158 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,280 because in order to keep that district created, 159 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:07,240 we had to show an obligation on the books. 160 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:09,800 And it never was recorded in prior years 161 00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:10,640 like it should have been. 162 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,640 So the prior finance director did it the right way 163 00:11:13,640 --> 00:11:14,820 and put that on the books, 164 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:17,200 went at the point in which we're desertifying, 165 00:11:17,340 --> 00:11:18,980 we got to clear the books in order to do that. 166 00:11:19,620 --> 00:11:21,580 And that obligation to your point was, 167 00:11:21,580 --> 00:11:28,800 That was created many many years ago when this district was actually created back in 2004 2005 168 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:32,000 So very good. Do you have a motion a second? 169 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:34,580 So moved 170 00:11:35,420 --> 00:11:41,480 I'll second it. Okay. We have a motion a second any discussion and just deposit we have an internet issues or is everybody just mine? 171 00:11:41,680 --> 00:11:44,780 Okay. Yeah, I've heard where where is this district? 172 00:11:46,460 --> 00:11:51,080 Because I thought it was something different, but it's not. No, yeah, it's right out just 173 00:11:51,580 --> 00:11:53,640 to grab a lot right along the highway here. 174 00:11:53,860 --> 00:11:54,940 So it's right across this. 175 00:11:55,300 --> 00:11:56,700 Right behind the old public safety bill. 176 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:57,220 Okay. 177 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:00,140 And actually currently at the time there's about, 178 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:03,100 I think there's five parcels within that district. 179 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:04,980 Only two because of how, 180 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:07,860 what's happened since the district that's being created. 181 00:12:08,860 --> 00:12:11,680 Two of those parcels are only in the TIF district now anyways. 182 00:12:12,340 --> 00:12:14,480 So we don't even have a redevelopment occur. 183 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,120 It would be for the whole five parcels most likely. 184 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:25,980 So there's only two in it because Tiff Laughing allows you to keep two in it because of what occurred and all things happen there. 185 00:12:28,040 --> 00:12:32,340 So there's multiple reasons why not to keep the district open anymore. 186 00:12:32,620 --> 00:12:37,620 I don't have a problem with that. I just want something different than whether that's why I asked. 187 00:12:42,140 --> 00:12:44,080 We have motion on a second. 188 00:12:44,940 --> 00:12:45,680 Any other discussion? 189 00:12:48,730 --> 00:12:49,450 Not hearing any? 190 00:12:49,670 --> 00:12:50,410 All those in favor? 191 00:12:50,670 --> 00:12:51,290 Please say aye. 192 00:12:51,710 --> 00:12:52,010 Aye. 193 00:12:52,410 --> 00:12:52,910 Any opposed? 194 00:12:53,590 --> 00:12:55,030 Not hearing any of that passes. 195 00:12:56,570 --> 00:12:57,130 All right. 196 00:12:57,290 --> 00:12:58,670 Moving on to 5C. 197 00:12:59,110 --> 00:13:01,930 Adoption of Resolution 26027. 198 00:13:02,410 --> 00:13:06,630 Approving proposed 2027 general fund revenue and expenditure budgets. 199 00:13:06,630 --> 00:13:15,300 It's a busy night for you, it's like a may yet procedural thing. 200 00:13:15,680 --> 00:13:21,420 We have to obviously approve a preliminary budget levy for 2027, you need to do that 201 00:13:21,420 --> 00:13:23,000 prior to September 30th. 202 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:29,640 If you recall it's not to exceed levy that we have to set in September, historically we've 203 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:33,520 kind of set the mark and then as we work through over the next two to three months with some 204 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:38,060 changes that usually occur, typically do, we'll come around to hopefully a final number 205 00:13:38,060 --> 00:13:41,440 that will be hopefully less than this but we'll work through that and we'll work through 206 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:45,420 those changes and explain those. Whether we do it at just a regular workshop or we come 207 00:13:45,420 --> 00:13:53,220 in December with that information. These are the numbers you saw back in July when we presented 208 00:13:53,220 --> 00:13:58,040 first draft. We took capital plan back in April May, layered that in along with the operating 209 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:04,420 budgets presented that all in July. So this was the numbers in July with the exception of one thing. 210 00:14:05,380 --> 00:14:14,080 We received our health insurance renewal subsequently after the July workshop and that's health insurance renewal was not very 211 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:21,420 fable and not to what we would have thought would be occurring. The preliminary budget had 10% in there. This insurance renewals 212 00:14:21,420 --> 00:14:32,160 had 16% currently. We're working through requesting proposals to see if we're in the market, perhaps if maybe we need to change carriers. 213 00:14:32,160 --> 00:14:38,140 years. So we're working through that process. Once we have that information I would anticipate 214 00:14:38,620 --> 00:14:43,840 if there's some savings there, we'll obviously do that. If there's not savings there, we'll 215 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:49,060 be working through what do we do with our current plan, or do we need to make changes to our 216 00:14:49,060 --> 00:14:54,480 plan, maybe higher deductibles, etc. I don't know that until we have maybe some comparable 217 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:59,760 plans to to see if we're in the market or not. So when I I changed. 218 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:21,260 So that added some numbers, you know, I wrote, notated it here in the RCA. 219 00:15:29,420 --> 00:15:29,980 We were at about 220 00:15:29,980 --> 00:15:34,960 what July workshop and what we talked about as a budget and kind of agreed to what you are 221 00:15:34,960 --> 00:15:35,980 approving this evening. 222 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:41,340 I guess I'll answer any questions. There's kind of two parts to this 223 00:15:41,340 --> 00:15:46,640 thing. There's one just approving revenue expense budgets and then the next RCA or next resolution 224 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:52,340 is approving in the actual preliminary levy. And like I said, this is not too exceed. We'll come back 225 00:15:52,340 --> 00:15:55,240 in December with maybe perhaps some different numbers. So 226 00:15:58,090 --> 00:15:59,270 any questions from the council? 227 00:16:04,250 --> 00:16:04,890 Just a 228 00:16:04,890 --> 00:16:10,670 So, General, how big a hassle is it for staff and then all the employees to switch to a new plan? 229 00:16:12,210 --> 00:16:17,130 Well, that's going to be the tricky part to be quite honest with you because, you know, 230 00:16:17,230 --> 00:16:24,170 at some point, there's, when you talk about percentages, is it worth the hassle of 2-3 percent 231 00:16:24,170 --> 00:16:25,410 maybe to save something? 232 00:16:26,030 --> 00:16:30,650 I don't know that until we get the proposals back and see where we're at. 233 00:16:30,910 --> 00:16:32,490 We haven't had to go to market. 234 00:16:32,490 --> 00:16:42,290 This is quite frankly a surprise to us as staff, because all the data we were seeing and receiving and where our trends were, weren't dictating where we ended up. 235 00:16:44,650 --> 00:16:48,710 It doesn't really match what we've seen from our provider past. 236 00:16:49,050 --> 00:16:52,630 It seems a little out there, so that's what triggered the review. 237 00:16:54,210 --> 00:17:06,350 One of the things that I just want to throw in here, one of the things that led us to this plan is that you can save money by taking a provider specific plan through this group. 238 00:17:06,890 --> 00:17:16,270 So, Mayo only, or Fairview only, those types of things. The problem is that where we're at geographically, we've got a combination. 239 00:17:16,270 --> 00:17:17,950 and we've got folks who are using Olmstead, 240 00:17:18,090 --> 00:17:20,190 we've got folks who are using Mayo or, you know, 241 00:17:20,290 --> 00:17:22,470 going down to Wavishaw. 242 00:17:22,690 --> 00:17:25,310 And so there's just a lot of options, 243 00:17:25,690 --> 00:17:27,550 not a lot of options, but there are more options here 244 00:17:27,550 --> 00:17:28,410 than just Mayo. 245 00:17:28,930 --> 00:17:32,970 And that does not work well for employees 246 00:17:32,970 --> 00:17:35,250 to tighten it down to a single provider. 247 00:17:36,870 --> 00:17:37,310 Sorry. 248 00:17:37,690 --> 00:17:39,450 No, that's exactly. 249 00:17:39,850 --> 00:17:42,610 So that's the balancing act we're at right now. 250 00:17:43,030 --> 00:17:44,850 Like I said, we got proposals out to try 251 00:17:44,850 --> 00:17:47,990 and see if that is, maybe where we're priced at is, 252 00:17:48,130 --> 00:17:50,210 what the market is for our group. 253 00:17:50,790 --> 00:17:53,030 We won't know that until we get the information back. 254 00:17:53,790 --> 00:17:55,830 And like I said, we haven't had to do this before, 255 00:17:56,130 --> 00:17:57,890 for probably about three years now. 256 00:17:58,490 --> 00:17:59,990 Yeah, it's been good. 257 00:18:00,530 --> 00:18:00,570 So. 258 00:18:00,570 --> 00:18:03,250 But that number is final to stay with the current provider. 259 00:18:03,810 --> 00:18:04,270 Yes. 260 00:18:04,610 --> 00:18:04,790 Okay. 261 00:18:05,110 --> 00:18:07,590 So if we find that there is a savings, 262 00:18:08,210 --> 00:18:11,630 we have discussion internally amongst us as staff 263 00:18:11,630 --> 00:18:13,130 and maybe employees as well, 264 00:18:13,130 --> 00:18:18,910 That says if we switch we can go to this right now. We're on Medica. Maybe we can go to health partners 265 00:18:18,910 --> 00:18:24,130 We were with health partners, but back in the past we saved five six percent. Let's just say in 266 00:18:25,350 --> 00:18:29,570 Everybody's comfortable with that. We'll proceed down that way and we'll just this levy down 267 00:18:30,410 --> 00:18:31,910 Indy subway, okay 268 00:18:31,910 --> 00:18:36,830 But if we stay where we're at and we're gonna stick where we're at because that is the market where we're at 269 00:18:36,830 --> 00:18:40,870 I feel it's only fair to least for this this levy for 270 00:18:41,530 --> 00:19:10,850 September to have that higher amount in there. The other thing that will be a factor too, we have, there was a couple vacant positions at the time we were doing budget, those are now settled out, so there may be some health insurance changes that you know budgeted family, they may be a single or et cetera, and there's open enrollment that will be occurring here over the next two months too, so there could be some transition people changing between there too, so I don't think we're locked in here by any means, but I think it's only fair with where we're at to at least plan 271 00:19:10,850 --> 00:19:13,290 and for some in case it does end up being that. 272 00:19:14,410 --> 00:19:15,950 I appreciate the staff suffer. 273 00:19:16,070 --> 00:19:18,030 This is a lot of variables to go through 274 00:19:18,030 --> 00:19:21,370 and whatever we can do to normalize that budget 275 00:19:21,370 --> 00:19:24,270 to our original target would be also appreciated 276 00:19:24,270 --> 00:19:26,330 while making sure we're taking care of our staff. 277 00:19:26,930 --> 00:19:28,990 No, it would be my fully intention to come back 278 00:19:28,990 --> 00:19:31,230 as we work through this and we know more information 279 00:19:31,630 --> 00:19:33,690 to share with council what those changes are, 280 00:19:33,770 --> 00:19:35,030 no different than I've done in the past. 281 00:19:36,270 --> 00:19:38,610 When do you expect to get the information from? 282 00:19:38,610 --> 00:19:40,650 We're right now all for proposals. 283 00:19:41,410 --> 00:19:47,270 I don't know if we'll know an answer before our October council meetings, workshops, etc. 284 00:19:47,810 --> 00:19:51,610 It would probably be in November 1 unless we had something special going between there. 285 00:19:52,490 --> 00:19:58,010 It's tricky because we're trying to pull this information on the proposals at the same time we normally do open enrollment. 286 00:19:58,010 --> 00:19:59,950 and we tell employees, here are your options. 287 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:27,760 So, there's some move and parts here. I'd love to see it before that, if we can. Yeah, and that's the other thing. If we are going to need to be forced to make changes with either our current plan or our new plan, we're going to have to work through those two, not only perhaps with council but staff as well. Believe us, we don't want to make changes if we didn't have to either, but we're kind of in a spot now where we've got at least review options. 288 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:42,720 So and I think you do need to shop around and try to get the best deal you can and I understand what you're saying Rob about you have to pick one but you have to do that now I had to pick my health insurance 289 00:20:43,240 --> 00:20:54,600 where I wanted to go to the doctor because that's where it's getting to be but you could choose I mean if you were a male you could choose male you know so I think we need to get the bang for the buck 290 00:20:55,840 --> 00:21:00,360 because it's going to keep rising and the employees got to work with us as well. 291 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:02,920 So if 292 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:10,340 we had a crystal ball, I could see what the companies are going to do in the next two years. 293 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:11,940 That's why we're offered proposals now. 294 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:15,140 I would anticipate us getting two to three at least at a minimum. 295 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:18,000 So we'll have something comparable to work from now on. 296 00:21:18,020 --> 00:21:23,820 Is this something that you guys make the call or do if you get a couple different options? 297 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:26,700 Does it come back to us to make a decision? 298 00:21:26,700 --> 00:21:32,160 or is this an internal. I can't remember because it's been a few years. 299 00:21:32,300 --> 00:21:38,770 Yeah, we haven't had to tell no. Sorry, that's your question. 300 00:21:39,970 --> 00:21:43,510 Yeah, I would anticipate if we're going to start making changes, we're going to have 301 00:21:43,510 --> 00:21:48,570 to review it internally, probably amongst employees internally and then perhaps come back 302 00:21:48,570 --> 00:21:49,070 to you. 303 00:21:52,010 --> 00:21:57,730 That's what I guess I would see. If we're not making changes, then obviously it is 304 00:21:57,730 --> 00:22:03,550 is what it is, but I have a feeling there's going to be some shorter change, I don't know 305 00:22:03,550 --> 00:22:04,310 what that is. 306 00:22:06,780 --> 00:22:11,200 Because it's a two year contract, right, or is it three, just one year to year. 307 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:18,320 And like I said, all the data and things we've been seeing and hearing for the past six 308 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:22,920 months didn't indicate that this was coming, so that's why I'm kind of surprised. 309 00:22:26,860 --> 00:22:38,260 So we have two motions, it sounds like with this one, 26, 0, 27 to approve the 20s, 27 general fund revenue and expenditure budgets, and then after that's when we'll actually look at the levy. 310 00:22:39,020 --> 00:22:48,240 Okay, so for the 20, 27 general fund revenue and expenditure budgets, 26, 0, 27, do we have a motion in a second? 311 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,480 So moved, I'll second it. 312 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,020 and we have a motion to second any more discussion? 313 00:22:54,420 --> 00:22:59,840 I would just note that those numbers are basically higher from the July one based on the health insurance. 314 00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:01,420 So that's at 8.9, correct? 315 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:05,180 It's at the 8.5, 8.5, we don't thank you. 316 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:11,660 Yeah, I think it was about a, don't quote me on the DOM on 17, 18,000 somewhere in that range, so. 317 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:17,720 Very good, so we have a motion to second any other discussion? 318 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:24,240 Not hearing any. We'll call the vote on that and all those in favor, please say aye. 319 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:25,120 Aye. 320 00:23:25,580 --> 00:23:26,040 Any opposed? 321 00:23:26,860 --> 00:23:28,460 Not hearing any passes. 322 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:38,580 So the second part, 5D, adopt resolution 26-028 for the property tax levy payable in 2027. 323 00:23:39,580 --> 00:23:42,080 And Jerome, do you have a presentation for this particular person? 324 00:23:42,100 --> 00:23:45,740 No, I just basically the levy side, this is actually where it comes from. 325 00:23:45,740 --> 00:23:55,140 The thing I probably didn't mention in this whole discussion so far is you know, I think I alluded to it at the July workshop, you know, with the 326 00:23:56,380 --> 00:23:56,900 preliminary 327 00:23:59,100 --> 00:24:02,980 overall valuation increase between the two taxing jurisdictions. 328 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:08,660 Our tax rate actually with these changes is going to be relatively neutral. 329 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:14,960 Our tax rate will still say in that range where I have, which is right around 60% or 60. 330 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:26,840 So I don't anticipate a major change on that either, so I just want to make note of that, even though it's being spread across the same area in a way. 331 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:27,860 So yeah. 332 00:24:28,380 --> 00:24:34,640 And just for clarity for everybody listening at home too, this isn't a saying we want to have an eight and a half percent. 333 00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:42,380 No, it's the ceiling maximum. Do not exceed. We're setting tonight. So hopefully we'll get it back to our target goal and 334 00:24:43,460 --> 00:24:51,980 If I may ask this is a council have targeted goal just for for staff to know as we work through and look at changes. I guess that's 335 00:24:54,660 --> 00:24:59,780 Well, I think didn't we say 7.5 at the last one? Yeah, that's helpful 336 00:25:00,020 --> 00:25:30,500 We know as we work through and so. Yeah. Very good. Health insurance is a big thing, so. Well, personnel costs are in just. Very good. All right. Do you have a motion in a second for the 2027 Levy, 206028? So move. Second. Okay. We have a motion in a second. Any further discussion? Not hearing any call the vote. All those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? 337 00:25:31,100 --> 00:25:33,440 Not hearing any, that passes, thank you, Jerome. 338 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:34,840 Thank you, thanks, Jerome. 339 00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:45,500 We have five E, a budget transfer for Hoaxala Capital Building Project Roofing. 340 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:48,320 Thank you, Mr. Mayor, council members. 341 00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:49,900 I'm going to apologize ahead of time. 342 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:51,320 My voice is a little bit weak today. 343 00:25:51,780 --> 00:25:54,200 Unfortunately, I did catch a little bit of a cold with the cold weather moving in. 344 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,860 So, this is a simple budget transfer request. 345 00:25:57,860 --> 00:26:03,740 Yes, we have a small capital project at Hoxla where we roofed a handful of buildings out there. 346 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:10,560 The project is just very minimally over budget by $2,126.45. 347 00:26:11,100 --> 00:26:16,200 We have sufficient funds in our operating supplies budget at Hoxla that we can transfer and 348 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,540 move into that to satisfy the final payments for that project. 349 00:26:19,980 --> 00:26:26,120 So that is the request for this item to simply authorize approval of transferring those funds. 350 00:26:26,120 --> 00:26:34,880 and specifically $2,126.45 from Hoxler operating supplies to Hoxler capital to satisfy those remaining bills. 351 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:36,620 Very good. 352 00:26:38,120 --> 00:26:39,440 Any motion in a second? 353 00:26:39,700 --> 00:26:40,240 So moved. 354 00:26:40,360 --> 00:26:40,720 A second. 355 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:42,040 All right, any discussion? 356 00:26:46,030 --> 00:26:46,970 Not hearing any? 357 00:26:47,190 --> 00:26:47,690 Call the vote. 358 00:26:47,790 --> 00:26:48,530 All those in favor? 359 00:26:48,730 --> 00:26:49,410 Please say aye. 360 00:26:49,950 --> 00:26:50,230 Aye. 361 00:26:50,630 --> 00:26:50,970 Any opposed? 362 00:26:51,990 --> 00:26:52,730 Not hearing any. 363 00:26:52,770 --> 00:26:53,290 That passes. 364 00:26:53,910 --> 00:26:54,090 All right. 365 00:26:54,390 --> 00:26:54,650 Five. 366 00:26:55,170 --> 00:26:56,330 I think this is yours. 367 00:26:56,330 --> 00:27:02,230 as well as approve the 2027 maintenance agreement between Wavishak County and the city of Lake City. 368 00:27:02,850 --> 00:27:03,590 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. 369 00:27:04,390 --> 00:27:11,190 This is an annual maintenance agreement that we get into with Wavishak County for two specific roadways segments. 370 00:27:12,030 --> 00:27:14,230 Wavishak County stated highway five and nine. 371 00:27:14,930 --> 00:27:22,430 This is to perform snow and ice maintenance agreements or snow and ice removal and streets weaving maintenance on those segments of roadway. 372 00:27:22,430 --> 00:27:27,930 Okay, we get compensated $2,000, $602 per mile for those segments. 373 00:27:28,830 --> 00:27:39,910 So the projections for those myelages are on there, and the city would receive ultimately $5,777 in compensation for this particular maintenance agreement. 374 00:27:40,430 --> 00:27:45,390 It's an annual agreement that we renew with them each year, so this is another routine practice. 375 00:27:45,390 --> 00:27:51,370 this. So very good. And we have a motion in a second. So moved. 376 00:27:52,350 --> 00:27:55,070 I'll second it. All right. Any discussion? 377 00:27:57,910 --> 00:27:59,570 And just to check, 378 00:27:59,690 --> 00:28:04,050 I guess, a question for me is, do we think that 5,777's adequate 379 00:28:04,650 --> 00:28:08,890 recuperate expenses for that? It worked. It typically is. I mean, 380 00:28:08,950 --> 00:28:12,350 it all depends on how much snow we get. Obviously, that's the big, big 381 00:28:12,350 --> 00:28:14,270 ticket item for that one there. Yep. Yeah. 382 00:28:16,370 --> 00:28:17,030 May not snow as 383 00:28:17,030 --> 00:28:23,870 here but fuel is okay good deal a lot of that you're up and down those streets 384 00:28:23,870 --> 00:28:28,810 anyways exactly that's a lot of what this comes from right there it makes 385 00:28:28,810 --> 00:28:32,650 more sense for us to take care of it versus leave it and ask another county to 386 00:28:32,650 --> 00:28:36,290 come up and button up a small segment so yes thank you that is a very good 387 00:28:36,290 --> 00:28:40,910 point Robert perfect yeah I have no concerns with us doing it it's just want to 388 00:28:40,910 --> 00:28:45,090 make sure we're covering ourselves to do so perfect all right we have a motion 389 00:28:45,090 --> 00:28:47,270 in a second, all those in favor, please say aye. 390 00:28:47,650 --> 00:28:48,070 All right. 391 00:28:48,310 --> 00:28:48,810 Any opposed? 392 00:28:49,470 --> 00:28:50,950 Not hearing any, that passes. 393 00:28:51,630 --> 00:28:51,870 All right. 394 00:28:52,290 --> 00:28:52,670 All 395 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,960 right, 5G, a request to introduce and wave 396 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:01,680 first reading of ordinance 654, 397 00:29:02,020 --> 00:29:04,900 an ordinance amending chapter 151 of the city code 398 00:29:04,900 --> 00:29:06,740 relating to flood plan management. 399 00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:08,040 Thank you, Chris. 400 00:29:08,300 --> 00:29:10,260 Thank you, Mr. Mayor, councilmembers. 401 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,500 Yes, we recently adopted our floodplain ordinance 402 00:29:15,500 --> 00:29:19,760 that went into effect in July 21st of this year. 403 00:29:20,300 --> 00:29:24,060 That was required because the Wabusha County maps were updated. 404 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:28,920 When we had sent in for the ordinance approval, DNR said, 405 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,720 we left out the section, we said you could leave out the section, but 406 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:34,600 you actually have this kind of floodplain. 407 00:29:34,820 --> 00:29:39,180 So we had to put the general floodplain section back into our ordinance. 408 00:29:40,220 --> 00:29:42,980 It was an oversight on both of our parts. 409 00:29:42,980 --> 00:29:49,520 We thought we didn't have any general flood plain in our little bit of flood plain we have so this just will 410 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:55,320 Put the general flood plain section back into the ordinance and get that finalized 411 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,500 All moved. Second. Any discussion? 412 00:30:07,030 --> 00:30:32,010 All right. We have motion a second to introduce and waive first reading of ordinance 654, ordinance amending chapter 151 of the city code relating to floodplain management. All those in favor, please say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Not hearing any. Thank you, Christie passes. All right. Next one or five, or yeah, five H request to introduce and waive first reading of ordinance 655. 413 00:30:32,010 --> 00:30:37,350 to amend the jewel third edition by Craig and Linda or probably what you're 414 00:30:37,350 --> 00:30:43,990 lasting my apologize for. Yes thank you this request is for an ordinance for 415 00:30:43,990 --> 00:30:48,270 a planned unit development amendment to combines lots two and three of 416 00:30:48,270 --> 00:30:52,730 block four of the jewel third edition for Craig and Linda Vonch. They would like 417 00:30:52,730 --> 00:30:57,830 to combine these lots so that they could build their dwelling on the property line 418 00:30:57,830 --> 00:31:03,050 between the two of them. This is currently a corner lot and the one next to it. 419 00:31:03,210 --> 00:31:09,430 So they're oddly shaped lots. The corner lot is larger but the one next to it is smaller. 420 00:31:09,730 --> 00:31:17,530 And so while their house may fit on the corner lot itself, it will just fit better 421 00:31:17,530 --> 00:31:22,790 where they're proposing and it will allow them to have equal space around their dwelling. 422 00:31:22,790 --> 00:31:26,450 There was a public hearing for this at the Planning Commission. 423 00:31:26,610 --> 00:31:38,570 Nobody spoke at the public hearing and we find that the request is reasonable and I recommend 424 00:31:38,570 --> 00:31:39,650 you to approve of it. 425 00:31:41,740 --> 00:31:41,900 Good. 426 00:31:42,060 --> 00:31:43,180 Do we have a motion in a second? 427 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:44,380 It's so moved. 428 00:31:44,820 --> 00:31:45,180 Second. 429 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:46,060 All right. 430 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:46,760 Any discussion? 431 00:31:50,660 --> 00:31:50,800 All right. 432 00:31:50,940 --> 00:31:51,680 Not hearing any. 433 00:31:52,220 --> 00:31:53,000 All those in favour? 434 00:31:53,220 --> 00:31:53,980 Please say aye. 435 00:31:54,780 --> 00:31:54,920 Aye. 436 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:55,940 So 437 00:31:58,950 --> 00:32:04,470 that is a waiver introducing, yeah, the first reading of the ordinance. 438 00:32:04,470 --> 00:32:06,910 So we'll have that next month, I believe, correct, for the second. 439 00:32:07,270 --> 00:32:07,350 Yep. 440 00:32:08,130 --> 00:32:08,530 Very good. 441 00:32:09,510 --> 00:32:10,290 All right. 442 00:32:11,330 --> 00:32:13,750 I think we're on to unfinished business. 443 00:32:15,130 --> 00:32:21,050 This will be a request to waive the second reading and adopt ordinance, 653, planned unit 444 00:32:21,050 --> 00:32:26,890 development amendment, PD2602, by Brian and Tracy Hinkle. 445 00:32:26,890 --> 00:32:35,700 Yes, and I have nothing further to add on this one. This is the second reading and it would just finalize the request. 446 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,900 Absolutely. Very good. Do we have motion in a second? 447 00:32:38,140 --> 00:32:38,680 So moved. 448 00:32:39,180 --> 00:32:39,680 Hi, second. 449 00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:41,260 All right. Any discussion? 450 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:46,040 Not hearing any? All those in favor? Please say aye. 451 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:50,440 Any opposed? Not hearing any. That passes. Thank you, Christian. 452 00:32:51,620 --> 00:32:53,200 All right. We're on informational reports. 453 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,600 We have a number of reports in front of us for minutes, 454 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:02,320 from various meetings. If you're the liaison, please feel free to comment as we go through. 455 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:06,580 Otherwise, if it's minutes are as stated, please state so. 456 00:33:07,340 --> 00:33:12,040 And we'll start with the personnel committee meeting, August 13th, as stated. 457 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,520 Personnel committee meeting, September 2nd, as stated. 458 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:27,480 Marina Board, August 18th, and fire department meeting, August 27th, planning commission meeting, September 3rd. 459 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:48,260 Estated planning commission workshop September 3rd, Board of Adjustment, Minutes, September 3rd, Heritage Preservation Commission, August 13th, Port Authority Meeting, August 20th, Estated streets, parks, public safety, August 19th, Estated. 460 00:33:48,540 --> 00:33:49,060 Very good. 461 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:49,620 All right. 462 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,680 Calendar for September and October are posted with the agenda. 463 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,680 Are there any amendments or changes to those calendars or meeting rotation? 464 00:34:00,060 --> 00:34:01,040 Not hearing any tonight? 465 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:01,360 Yep. 466 00:34:01,700 --> 00:34:05,720 Be sure to check the city website if those do get adjusted and if there's nothing further we'll 467 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:07,740 call for a motion in a second to adjourn. 468 00:34:08,260 --> 00:34:08,900 I'll second. 469 00:34:09,260 --> 00:34:09,920 All those in favor? 470 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:10,840 Please say aye. 471 00:34:11,260 --> 00:34:11,640 Aye. 472 00:34:12,340 --> 00:34:12,820 Any opposed? 473 00:34:13,660 --> 00:34:14,540 Thank you, everybody. 474 00:34:14,700 --> 00:34:15,200 Have a good night.