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I'm going to call our meeting to order. This is our regular meeting of the Board of Supervisors for September 1st, 2026.

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Thank you for being here. I just wanted to, but out of reminder regarding our public comment, the Board welcomes and encourages public comment.

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We do want to hear from people, whether it's just general public comment or comments regarding items later in the day that we're discussing.

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And just reminder we do have a three minute hard stop on that, so you'll be asked to stop if you go past the three minutes.

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Also, a reminder that all comments and questions and statements need to be directed to the Board of Supervisors, not to staff, and I will decide what questions are going to be answered if any.

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And then just lastly, it's always more effective if you're criticizing policies and procedures and things like that rather than criticism of individual people and staff members.

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So, thank you, do any board members have moments of silence?

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Go ahead, surprise your sub-ATA.

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Yeah, I'd like to take a moment of silence for Mary Silva.

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Mary Silva was a long time community service member of the Clear Lake area.

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She was a school board member for gosh, I want to say at least multiple decades.

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I don't have the exact years, but since I've known the school board, she's been on the school board.

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She left about two years ago.

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And just a huge passion for the students, the teachers,

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and just making life better for all of those in the Connoctinified School District,

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her strength as a person to stand by her values,

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in my opinion, was second to none and her care for where our students were going and how

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our students were being treated. I thought it was absolutely amazing and I left the standard

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that I hope everybody can meet on a school board. Unfortunately, she left the school board

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due to health issues and we could go to come to our health issues and so we lost Mary Silva,

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which is a huge loss for the family,

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for the friends, for the school district,

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and just for many around-incletely.

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Thank you, any others?

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Thank you, sir.

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Registrate, I would do this in the club.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States

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of America, and to the Republic for which it stands,

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one nation, under God, indivisible with liberty

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and justice for all.

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Thank you.

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Do we have any extra items on the agenda?

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We do not chair.

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Thank you.

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Then we'll move on to the approval of the consent agenda and I do understand that we're

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going to be pulling item 5.4 for discussion later in the day.

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Are there any other items that supervisors wish to pull?

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Is there anyone in the public online or in the room that wishes to request we pull any

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consent agenda item?

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No hands not seeing any in the room, I'll be ready for action on that.

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It's a chair move to approve the consent agenda with the exception of 5.4.

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I have a motion of the second all in favor.

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I opposed hearing none that carries 4.0 and we will now move on to our 902 public input

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item and I'm going to start online today.

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Zoom user please identify yourself and you'll have three minutes.

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Skyley Lomb, Pillsbury Family Farms, and over the past few weeks the chair has encouraged the public to bring more solutions to the board and for your complaints about the government.

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So today I have a solution to my own situation.

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Lee County should start offering seminars.

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Can a disconsolting assistance to other cannabis counties? Seriously.

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If the way that my situation handled reflects effective cannabis regulation.

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Then another county should have the opportunity to study it and decide whether the county of late cannabis model would work for them. Let's start with holding public seminars. Let's teach other cannabis counties what happens when a cannabis applicant social security number is exposed to government records and then let's teach how that county can examine what happened and when that applicant try to get a police report taken afterward. Then let's hold a county of late planner seminar. Let's show how whether planners can become more involved investigating an applicant's criminal history without becoming law enforcement.

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Let's give their planners the records.

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Let them examine the communications and how the information was sought to determine the

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information the department was actually authorized to receive and let the masks

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would they allow their planning department to operate this web?

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Then let's help other cannabis equity counties by holding the County of Lake

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Cannabis Equity Grant and Cannabis Tax Seminar.

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If County of Lake received millions of dollars in Cannabis Equity Fund and funding,

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then the county should be able to explain how they accepted 50,000 in Cannabis Grant

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funding toward our cultivation taxes and accepted an additional tax payment

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from us.

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So when we saw a refund, our tax dispute eventually became intertwined with

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allegations of when licensed cultivation and permit re-vocation

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process.

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Let those counties read the tax collectors own correspondence with working

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with the community of development, can on cannabis taxes, and

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revocations.

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And let us teach them about leverage.

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Let's show them what government can accomplish when the situation

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controlling somebody else's permit has the power to issue

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directives that affect the livelihood that's dependent on their situation.

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And let's have the sheriff's department hold a cannabis background seminar.

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Let's teach other counties the value of silence, showing our community development and

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sheriff's department, how repeated emails and inquiries from a cannabis applicant can go

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and answer even when those questions involve their permit and background determination and

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livelihood.

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Let's teach other sheriff's departments how they can refuse to consider, expungement, granted

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by other California courts.

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County of Lake is already sending the new standard, only an expungement from our own

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court system deserves a consideration while where we have granted from other California

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courts can be simply ignored.

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Let's teach them how useful silence becomes when nobody has to put a reason in writing

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and nobody has to explain the decision.

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Our late County Sheriff motto is if nobody answers a question, nobody has to defend the

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answer.

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Let them examine what happens when somebody attempts to report alleged misconduct involving

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the government regulated them. I don't know about you guys, but I believe the county of

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Lake has developed the most innovative cannabis regulatory system in California, and we need to share it.

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Milay Ham. Thank you. Do we have anyone else?

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Another hands that I'm going to move to the room.

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Go ahead and come forward, state your name. You'll have three minutes.

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My name is your doctor for safety.

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I need a job. I also have several one is to save Bambi. So many Bambi's get hit on

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make sure drive. It's so sad. I've never killed a band beat with my bicycle. Also growing

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up, there was a phone list of hunters to call and animals hit. We're quickly picked up

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so the meat would not spoil. I hate seeing good local food wasted. The crap they

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should have belonged way in plastic. I wish people would just stop buying it so it would

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go away. We can grow more locally. Who has the extra money in land? I'm broke but the

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bank said I can still pull weeds and plant seeds. And I'm with a bicycle trailer as an energy

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efficient way to move produce to the farmers market. In high school I worked on a trail

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crew and we had horses carrying food. I saw two high school kids driving a tractor

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down Lake Shore Boulevard. Was that legal issue? Wasn't going to report them? That was great.

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The deer antlers were protesting plastic. It looked like smart kids. This is a message from

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Redocta for safety. She hoped she could make it to the meeting tomorrow, but her bosses are mad

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that she has not finished her homework. There are a bunch of unhinged assholes and lunatics who are

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actually frustrated humanitarianists that all at one time or another have issues with addiction.

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and so it seems like the whole fate of the world

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rests in the hands of humans that are quite unstable,

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but also creative and hardworking geniuses.

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Redacted for safety probably won't be back for a little while.

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It's a long story.

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She has manic episodes, so it might not take too long to finish.

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Some state, Mania, is a spiritually emergency.

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Yes, probably, SOS.

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All hands on deck, let's have fun.

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There are lots of conspiracy theories being passed

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around channeling.

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I gathered a ton from blocked most channels

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because now we don't need them anymore.

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Communicate mainly with birds. They leave random feathers of a particular kind and that reminds me of the specific human

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I know to go talk to when I see them when I rancher haulers out be careful

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High alert now and when I hear a rumor that if things don't change well whole bunch of high school kids with drones

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Are gonna take out the people not helping well and won't be me. I think the messages to sustainability has reached military level priority

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I don't have any drones. I just plant seeds, but I don't know what those kids are doing

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if it's a bullshit job when that causes unnecessary harm.

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Find one that's more useful or at least try the kids are seeing the system as nonsense. They don't want to drive a car. They are stealing tractors to drive down the street. They know the system will fail them. I sometimes go silent to watch my back. I don't want to end up like Charlie Kirk, and I want them to be safe too, so we communicate with notes after and try to make this work funny and attractive. This county is full of brave and talented people. Let's have a great week. And I will be in and out of my rule as mental health advocate. I hope everyone likes my ideas. I'm happy to receive feedback.

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both positive and also constructive criticism is welcome, just please don't tell me to

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fuck off. If I get frustrated and off myself I'm pretty sure someone with a

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similar skill set and objective is going to show up in my place to care on work that

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must be done. Now I must get back to work. Thank you for letting me speak. I hope you all

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have a good day. Apologize for publicly naming, redacted, redacted, I actually think

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they were helping me. I wish to let the county know county employees that failed to meet

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standards and goals for ethics, safety and sustainability.

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Thank you.

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That was your time.

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Thank you.

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Next person.

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My name is Justin Quail.

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I was told to seek out Sheriff Bingham.

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I've emailed him no response.

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I've called him no response.

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I've called the Sheriff's Department no response.

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But I've been told by your director that I have to seek him out.

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I went to five different lawyers in the local area. They said it's illegal

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But you guys are asking me to do it. So I'm trying and I don't want to break the law

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But that's what you're telling me to do

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So seeking out a share of Bingham. Hello, share of Bingham. I have got an expungement

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And I was passed by the first to the judge or I read the past

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Share before you me and him had a great conversation over the phone with the last director

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about my criminal record and they allowed it but this director said I can't have it and I hope you

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do this to every cannabis farmer that ever got a license. Every time you get a new sheriff

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he got around all of their credit background check we got to check it again we got to make

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sure it's standard to him and he won't respond to email but we did say in public as the last

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public meeting that he said that retaliation isn't legal but it is legal here. I've had my name

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different community development directors and different people seek out my name with him even there

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saying that I'm being treated different. Why am I different? Nobody will tell me why I'm different.

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I'm especially different. I'm definitely different. You're right. I was born with a disability.

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A reading writing disability. I was very transparent. He said he was my friend, but he said

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you really was my friend. He did one of the information about my disability. He can't handle it.

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So, how do I seek out a sheriff?

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I've asked the judge, and he said it was illegal.

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I've had five different and I went to the Justice Attorney in Sonoma, and he said it was a abuse of power.

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So, how do I seek out a sheriff being them?

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If you get back on my license, I was cleared by another sheriff, but then this sheriff said,

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no, you can't have it because you can't file complaints about grant fraud.

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That's wrong.

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That can't solve the place about code enforcement officers and personating police officers.

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That's legal.

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And the guy that got arrested, this is the crazy part.

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We never even had an investigator come and he got trained to a wrong party.

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And nobody ever came in an investigator in the 1700 pounds that went in my trailer,

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your truck to the dumb, no war.

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It's no sees or no, no.

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Where's the notice on the gate?

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None of that.

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But it's a share of what I'm going to call code enforcement is a new share of an office.

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I just scared.

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I don't hire private investigator.

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I got private investigators walking around.

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I just spent so much $23,000 on personal protection video cameras because I'm scared

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of my own government.

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I can't even call 911.

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They can't even tell me the story is legal.

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It is legal because if you don't cultivate, you've got to talk to the share of if you

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can't cultivate until you talk to the share, but you have to pay the tax anyway.

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Make sure the grant fund in the campaign taxes.

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Thank you, Mr. Quail. Next to in the room.

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Morning, supervisors. Chair Rasmussen.

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Can you hear me?

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Yes.

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I'm Brandon Disney, the mayor of the City of Lakeport.

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And I'm here to offer some appreciation regarding the drone show.

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It was a wonderful turnout and it's something

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that Supervisor Savantiay, Supervisor Rasmussen,

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without your help that wouldn't have occurred.

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I'm joined here with Mayor Protemitina

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and City Manager Ingram,

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and our goal today was just to say thank you.

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It's especially the one in Lakeport. I didn't get down to the drone show in Clear Lake, but in Lakeport we had a wonderful turnout.

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I think it really, really highlights what can be done between county, city, private business, that sponsor. This was a wonderful example of collaboration.

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between multiple agencies, private business,

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and I really look forward to planning for future events.

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I think what we're hearing from the public is it was a huge hit

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in a wonderful success.

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So I'll keep my public comment brief today,

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but I just wanted to thank the board

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and look forward to future collaborations.

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Thank you, Mayor.

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We appreciate that.

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Thank you.

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Next in the room.

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Good morning.

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My name is Matthew St. Clair.

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I am here on behalf of the Clear Lake O's Glen Haven Business Owners Association in regards to the Clear Lake O's Catfish Derby referencing agenda item 6.6.

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This would have a severe impact.

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This is related to an agenda item today.

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So you're gonna have to wait to comment until we get to that item.

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This is for general public comment not for stuff that's not on the agenda, so we'll get to that.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Good morning, Mr. Chair, Tom Lysick.

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I want to go back to something I mentioned a couple weeks ago, again, thinking the supervisors

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for making the commitment to not approve a local area plan unless the community feels comfortable

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with it, and I appreciate that. I want to extend on what that actually means, because it becomes

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important based on some recent events. In practical terms, the plan is not suitable to the community,

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that means it needs to be changed, and you end up with a new draft and the emphasis is on the word

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new, and I'll explain that in a minute. The other thing, as I mentioned, is why bother the

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the corollary turn to that is don't bother. Over and over again, we've heard from CD during

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this process phrases in terms that discourages the community from actually getting involved

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in the planning process. So for example, a phrase might be, well, you can do that. You can

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for that change in zoning or that change in lines, but the board is already approved that, so

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don't bother, so don't bother phrase. Another one is, well, you can ask for that, but we're running

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up a deadline to get it done by the end of the year, and we don't have enough time for that, so don't bother.

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Yesterday at the special meeting that we're called, focusing on the local area planned,

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Another version of that came to light, the director had pointed out that we're going to have

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to have a new draft, again, if it's just on the word new, as a work on conclusion.

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But she also kept telling the community that if you tried to put something in new, it's

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going to cost money, and the county doesn't have any money.

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So, that's a no-bother statement. She did that a couple times. She even said the NER requires a stable plan.

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It does. So, if you try to do anything new, we're going to have to redo and start the EIR over.

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So, again, don't bother. This happened enough times that the board member,

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At least the benefit of the data is pointed out that you have made the commitment not to approve a plan unless it met the needs of the community.

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The director doubled down and kept saying the same thing over and over and over.

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I pointed out that this benefit of the data is correct to please if you have concerns and want changes to make them known and director turned a quadruple down.

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This keeps happening, and this is not an alignment with your commitment to the community, it's not an alignment with commitment to the citizens of the county, and to have an EIR based on a drought that hasn't been approved, this is problematic.

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Thank you.

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Next in the room.

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Good morning, Mr. Chair and supervisors, Margo Kumbara, General Plan Advisory Committee, representative, speaking for myself.

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Local area plan advisory committees and municipal area councils, and community members have informed your board that the general plan and the local area plans are off track.

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When your board continued the Community Development Department CDD agenda item last week on extending the schedule for the general plan and local area plans to October 6,

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that stopped discussion and course correction for the general plans and the local area plans.

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More meetings as CDD proposals and edits to the drafts will not fix a general plan in the

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local area plans. General Plan Advisory Committee chaired Denise Rushing and other G-PAC members

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and municipal area council members have identified structural issues with a general plan in the local area plans.

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These issues will not be fixed with a few edits.

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The General Plan is an important document, steering development for unincorporated Lake County

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for the next 20 years.

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It must be done properly, and to the community satisfaction as Chair Rasmussen and Vice Chair

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Paiska told the Big Valley Advisory Committee this month to complete the General Plan

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properly may take more than six months as CDD plans.

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At last night's special Western Region Town Hall meeting, CDD Director Turner told attendees that whether new comments are included in the drafts depends on funding.

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The exclusion of public comments is part of the community's dissatisfaction with the current General Plan and Local Area Plan drafts.

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CDD's next round of meetings may be more focused on explaining why comments were not included

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than including points important to the community in the final drafts.

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As for a path to finishing the general plan and conserving funds, one of my general plan

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advisory committee colleagues, suggested to your board, focus on updating chapters of the

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as a separate project. Local area plans do not have statutory deadline for updates. More meetings,

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more public input, a loan will not fix a general plan in the local area plans. Addiquit,

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adequately addressing public comment received is a key issue. Addressing the shortcomings of the

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draft is another key issue. Your direction on the general plan is needed. Thank you.

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Do we have anyone else in the room not seeing anyone else I'm going to close public comment and move on to our

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9 o'clock 3 item at pet of the week

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good morning

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I'm off to apply with the like county animal control

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Today we have Zina with us

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She's about two years old

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We have her down as

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Shepherd mix

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She's very cutely, not a lot of energy, and she's ready to go to a good home, if anybody

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is interested. We've had her for about a month and a half at our shelter, and she's ready

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for her new home.

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So, if anybody is interested, please come on down to our shelter, look at it

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at 4949 Helbers Drive and Lakeport. I also wanted to remind everybody that tomorrow, Wednesday,

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September 2nd. We will be having a vaccine clinic. So if you need to get your dogs or cats up

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today on rabies or any other vaccines that we might offer like the DAPP, we also offer

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microchips, heart-wind test and heart-wind preventives. Again, that's tomorrow. September 2nd. It's

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going to be from 9 in the morning until 11 in the morning. Thank you guys. Have a nice day. Thank you.

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Thank you for coming in today.

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I'm ready to do.

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I have a good day.

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We're going to move on to our 6.3, 910 item,

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setting as the Lake County Housing Commission,

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consideration of first amendment to the contract between County of Lake.

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Lake County Housing Commission and Management reports incorporated

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or at least a program management software in the amount of twenty-seven.

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1,000 dollars for the period of October 1, 20, 26, through September 30, 20, 27, and authorize the Lake County Housing Commission chair to sign, and I'll turn it over to our social service director, Rachel Delmond Parsons. And I believe you said there, you know to fight me, there's something that needs to be updated. You can cover that.

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Can we hear me?

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So there is a correction regarding the sign-up and document was inadvertently emitted from the packet.

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This is a prior contract simply for historical context.

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It was approved and executed by the Commission on November 7th of 2024.

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It reflects an initial set of the of 750 in an annual cost of 500.

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I did send a digital copy to everybody setting up here.

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I have hard copies of anyone would like one.

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Thank you.

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So regarding the contract before the commission for execution,

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the additional annual cost allowances intended to ensure

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the funding is set aside for potential closed-out activities

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associated with eventual dissolution of the PHA.

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At this time, the specific scope and timing of the services

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not yet known. As your board is aware, sorry, as your commission is aware, the transition to

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the regional housing authority is currently on hold as the city of Calusa has not approved

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our participation in the joint powers authority. And the interim staff are working to establish

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a contract with the regional housing authority to provide services substantially similar to those currently

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provided via a GPA agreement until such time as we are able to join the GPA.

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So the admitted document, I already said I sent it to you.

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Okay, so I am hoping we can move forward with this item today, and that is all the comments

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I had.

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Thank you.

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Do any commissioners have questions?

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Just a question, because you're asking for a maximum not to exceed 27,000, which is not a huge number, but I can't figure out how we got to 27,000.

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I see there's one document for 750, one document for 500, and I think the original started at like $12,000 per year.

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If I remember correctly, I don't have it right in front of me. Still trying to figure out, where's the 27,000 coming from if it's just for one year?

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It is what I would say that the 12 was per year and I believe it is what they have quoted us for the continuation of services for one year.

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We typically do a three year contract with them.

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But because of our transition hopefully to your regional and we asked them for a one year contract term and this is the quote that came back with for us.

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They were at least willing to contract for a year instead of three years, which would have locked us into more expenses.

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Again, $27,000 is not a whole lot.

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I just don't know that I'm understanding, like I don't have a, here's how we got to that amount rather than that's just what they're telling us.

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But I don't see that in the amendment whatsoever that that's what they're telling us.

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So, if you'd like to, I'd like to have me hold the item.

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No, I'm ready to move forward. I just I again in the agreement that we're approving it speaks nothing to dollar signs it just says a one year agreement

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And if we're saying $27,000, I guess I'd like to maybe have a follow-up to better understand what are the costs because nothing that I'm seeing adds up to that amount

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But it's a maximum not to exceed so it could be the 12,000 plus the 750 plus the 500 and so because of the

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over all them out, but I just think it's important to, if it's not clear to me, it's

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definitely not clear to the public, and if we could be as clear as possible that would

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be great.

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So I'd love to get more information, but I'm not going to stop this today.

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Sure.

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Yeah, I'm sorry my fiscal deputy is on vacation, and she would have them details regarding that.

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So I can follow up in the future with her.

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Thank you.

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Any other questions from commissioners?

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Not seeing any all-opening.

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Right up to the public, do we have anybody in the room? Not seeing anybody online either. So I'll close public comment, bring it back to the commission for action.

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Mr. Chair, I move that we approve the first amendment to the contract between the county of Lake Lake County Housing Commission and Management Records Incorporated for Lindsey Program Management Software in the amount of $27,000.

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for the period of October 1st, 2026 to September 30th, 2027, and authorized the LCHC Chair to sign.

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I have a motion in a second all in favor.

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Aye.

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Aye.

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Opposed.

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That carries 50.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Next.

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Thank you.

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We're going to move on to our 930.

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6.4 items sitting as the Lake County Board of Supervisors consideration of the amended

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clear Lake Watershed and Chai Memorandum of Understanding Co-Management Agreement, adding

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co-ination of Northern California, updating the signature page and authorize the County Administrative

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Officer to sign and be setting concurrently as the Watershed Protection District Board of Directors

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consideration of the amended clear lake watershed and chai memorandum of

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understanding, co-management agreement, adding co-ination of Northern

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California, updating the signature page and authorize the water

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resources director to sign.

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I need to make a comment here on both of these after I had

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discussions with supervisor Crandell a few weeks ago, subsequent

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to our initial approval of this, I had made a request that this be changed for the Board to

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consider directing and authorizing the chair of the Board of Supervisors to sign both of these

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documents under the both as the county and the watershed protection district. I believe that

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was updated in the document itself, but the title didn't get updated in my reason for doing

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that was not to be a contact or anything, but in Supervisor Crannell, I felt that it

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was more appropriate, that with the tribal chairs being the signers, it should be equal

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that the chair of our elected board would also be a signer and to us that was more appropriate

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in having this agreement with the Tribes and that's why that request was made.

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And I'll turn it over to you at this point.

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Thank you.

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Terry Logson, Chief Climate Resilience, the Officer of the Police on.

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As you know, this document has been going through many iterations, and been working on

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led by Deputy Secretary of Tribal Affairs, Geneva Ibn Thompson, who's with CNRA.

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And so this morning, I received some suggested edits from a member of the public, which were

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mostly standardizing the area codes so that they had brackets around them.

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And I made those changes, so that's why I'm sharing the document.

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But there were already, I just spoke with the Ms. Thompson and she let me know that they're

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making all of the, you called, ministerial, administering, no standardizing the font size,

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doing the sentence, there's going to be an official document at the signing ceremony.

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So it won't say draft because this version says draft.

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So I would like to show you this.

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And when I added on page one, the state agencies didn't match the list in the appendix.

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that was from a member of the public this morning.

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So I added those in and they're blue and you can see how it changed the format.

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The site that this page two now just has one sentence on it.

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This will all be updated and then the highlights in yellow are the ones adding coordination

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and a couple other minor edits.

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So, on what I see as page 4, this is the one that was pointed out, the G is an in line with the rest of them, that will be moved over.

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On page 5, now which is one page number off from what was attached to the agenda. The parties agreed to work together on the, we added the word the following because that was missing.

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The highlight in yellow is a suggested addition. And then a number of besides the 707 phone are the phone numbers around the area code.

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I standardized, because the member of the public mentioned, under B, where it says Annual

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Informal Work Plan, through some and then in parentheses in that, in the first sentence,

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Annual Work Plan is supposed to be used throughout the rest of the document.

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And so I standardized that by removing where it had informal throughout the rest of the document.

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So informal was removed?

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Well, it's, yes, the way that they had it is annual informal work plan is the official title

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and then annual work plan used throughout the document and then there were different places in the document

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that still had the word informal.

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This one, non-trival parties.

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I added a poster feature show possession that was suggested by the member of the public.

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That's the only change to that.

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This section V six or seven N. Again, that will be I mentioned that again to deputy secretary Thompson and she said it would be corrected, but I'm just highlighting that that will be corrected so that it

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Makes sense

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The yellow is the signature for coordination of Northern California. That was added.

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They changed the name of who was the signer for CCC or the or the Cs and we changed the name of the signatory for the county of Lake and the chair of the Lake County Watership Protection District.

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And participating governments again, we added coordination in there

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and then you'll see all of the added brackets around the area code.

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which we're going to be done anyway. I just did it this morning. Since I knew I would be

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showing this document.

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The changes under Coination, all of that was added.

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Again,

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a area code and then over here. Instead of saying the Secretary of Environmental Protection

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acts of behalf, we changed it to on behalf. Again another area code,

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the California Water Resources

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Control Board changed the title of the person, the executive director, not the chief deputy

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director,

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the area code standardization. DTSC, the Department of Toxic Substances and Substances

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control added those three bullet points since the last edition.

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Over here we, they left out

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the word hit. It's just said clear lake task force. So this morning added hit.

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changed back to the contact which makes sense. The primary point of contact for the agreement for the

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county of lake is the county administrative officer Susan Parker and the point of contact for the lake

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the county watershed protection district is the director, Pohan, Yupati A. And again, I put

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the brackets around the area code. Same for both cities,

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and then these are all just

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taking out the word informal,

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which would, again, which would have been done by CNRA.

435
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:56,420
And

436
00:44:56,420 --> 00:44:57,100
those are the changes.

437
00:44:59,410 --> 00:44:59,890
Thank you.

438
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:04,980
Do we have any questions from board members at this point? I go ahead and surprise your spot here.

439
00:45:05,460 --> 00:45:12,940
Yeah, you had mentioned some changes and I'm glad to see the rest of the changes as well. I think it makes perfect sense that we authorize our chair to sign.

440
00:45:13,660 --> 00:45:24,900
That's typically what we do on agreements. And I think it makes perfect sense of changes that I saw as well that our directors of specific departments be the point person for contact.

441
00:45:25,460 --> 00:45:31,580
And so I think that everything that I've wanted to discuss and had discussions with Ms.

442
00:45:31,740 --> 00:45:35,580
Logsden has been accomplished and looking forward to approving this today.

443
00:45:36,660 --> 00:45:38,680
Any other questions from board members?

444
00:45:39,780 --> 00:45:44,520
I'll open it up to the public to be everybody in the room that wishes to comment on this.

445
00:45:44,940 --> 00:45:45,900
Not seeing any in the room.

446
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:47,020
Do we have anyone online?

447
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:49,340
Kate?

448
00:45:50,620 --> 00:45:51,060
Kate, go ahead.

449
00:45:51,060 --> 00:45:54,080
If you could state your full name, you'll have three minutes.

450
00:45:55,340 --> 00:46:04,160
My name is Kate Schmidt-Hopper, and I am not speaking on behalf of any organization, and only as a private citizen.

451
00:46:05,300 --> 00:46:10,640
Thank you for the opportunity to speak. I am so excited about this MoU.

452
00:46:10,900 --> 00:46:15,520
I am so grateful that it sounds like that this will be signed,

453
00:46:19,660 --> 00:46:20,500
this will be resolution,

454
00:46:20,500 --> 00:46:30,940
And I just am so thankful that our county is so forward thinking that we have one of the very first

455
00:46:30,940 --> 00:46:39,640
MOUs of this kind with our local tribal leaders and governments, and I'm really proud to be a lake county in today. Thank you.

456
00:46:40,660 --> 00:46:43,960
Thank you, Kate. Do we have anyone else?

457
00:46:44,660 --> 00:46:48,340
Then our close public comment and bring it back to the board for action.

458
00:46:50,130 --> 00:46:55,490
Mr. Chair, sitting as the Lake County Board of Supervisors, I move to approve the amended

459
00:46:55,490 --> 00:46:59,890
Clear Lake Watershed and Chai Memorandum of Understanding Co-management Agreement

460
00:46:59,890 --> 00:47:04,670
adding co-ination of Northern California, updating the signature page and authorized

461
00:47:04,670 --> 00:47:10,610
the Chair to sign as amended as shown to us thoroughly by Ms. Lodgeman.

462
00:47:10,610 --> 00:47:17,810
second. I have a motion in a second all in favor. I. I opposed. Yeah. Okay. That carries three.

463
00:47:18,850 --> 00:47:22,490
I'm sorry. Yeah. Three one. Go ahead.

464
00:47:24,130 --> 00:47:28,630
Sitting as the watershed protection district, the Board of Directors. I moved to approve the

465
00:47:28,630 --> 00:47:32,550
amended clear lake watershed and shy memorandum of understanding co-management agreement at

466
00:47:32,550 --> 00:47:36,870
incoignation of Northern California updating the signature page and authorized the chair to sign

467
00:47:36,870 --> 00:47:41,590
as amended as thoroughly example exemplified on our projector screen.

468
00:47:42,530 --> 00:47:49,910
Second. I have a motion in a second all in favor. I opposed. Okay, that carries 3-1.

469
00:47:50,490 --> 00:48:01,170
Thank you for that. That concludes that item. We are going to move on to our 6.5 item, 945 item,

470
00:48:01,170 --> 00:48:03,330
It's not 945.

471
00:48:03,870 --> 00:48:04,570
I've got like 30.

472
00:48:04,670 --> 00:48:06,710
I'm going to have to give it 30 seconds.

473
00:48:07,570 --> 00:48:08,990
So we'll be in a short pause.

474
00:48:33,070 --> 00:48:38,270
So I'll go ahead and call the 6.5-945 item,

475
00:48:39,230 --> 00:48:40,850
consideration of a letter of commitment,

476
00:48:42,110 --> 00:48:45,570
for the Habemental El Pomo of Upper Lakes Grant application,

477
00:48:46,410 --> 00:48:50,030
for a community resilience center program around two,

478
00:48:50,510 --> 00:48:52,090
implementation grant application.

479
00:48:52,630 --> 00:49:01,830
This is brought to us by our Administrative Office in our Deputy CAO Logsten to be handled in this item as well, and I'll turn it over to you.

480
00:49:02,410 --> 00:49:03,430
Thank you.

481
00:49:03,550 --> 00:49:04,110
Thank you, Chair.

482
00:49:04,370 --> 00:49:12,070
Terry Logsten, Chief Climate Resilience, the Officer and Tribal Liaison, and I am happy today to bring to you for your consideration, a letter of commitment.

483
00:49:12,070 --> 00:49:18,490
The Hematopomal of Upper Lake is submitting a collaborative grant application to this California's

484
00:49:18,490 --> 00:49:24,130
Strategic Growth Council for their Community Resilience Center implementation round to grant program.

485
00:49:24,310 --> 00:49:25,670
That will leverage funding.

486
00:49:26,250 --> 00:49:33,790
They received from Congressman Mike Thompson who successfully championed a 3.15 million-hud community project funding award

487
00:49:33,790 --> 00:49:37,510
to support construction of a tribal community center for Hematopomal.

488
00:49:37,510 --> 00:49:42,490
I'm going to share a copy of the letter since the agenda was posted.

489
00:49:42,850 --> 00:49:52,530
I added some suggestions from Supervisor Sabatee, let's see, because we initially had written

490
00:49:52,530 --> 00:49:59,430
the draft letter as a letter of support and have changed during the process and so it is

491
00:49:59,430 --> 00:49:59,950
a letter of commitment.

492
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:13,600
Amendment, but I neglected to put what we were committing to. And so what we're committing to is on the second page, which is in the grant proposal, H.P.U.L. or

493
00:50:13,600 --> 00:50:29,980
Habermittal Pomol of Upper Lake, will lead an effort to engage their tribal communities in the amenities of this facility during what we call

494
00:50:29,980 --> 00:50:36,740
lead the effort, if engaging, a Bemental, almost community in the tribal community throughout

495
00:50:36,740 --> 00:50:42,940
the county or just an upper lake. That is their choice. But what I will do is for the

496
00:50:42,940 --> 00:50:48,780
county of Lake, we'll lead general public engagement with the adjacent municipal advisory

497
00:50:48,780 --> 00:50:54,520
counties and town halls for all members of the Board of Supervisors. So probably Scotts Valley,

498
00:50:54,520 --> 00:51:00,220
worth, and the Lucerne area, is that her? No.

499
00:51:00,900 --> 00:51:01,600
Sir, sir.

500
00:51:02,280 --> 00:51:04,660
Sir, so the area is around there.

501
00:51:05,820 --> 00:51:10,620
As you know, what I added on the first page that

502
00:51:10,620 --> 00:51:13,960
came at the suggestion at the last minute from the SGC,

503
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:17,380
strategic growth council, their question was,

504
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,550
would our OES and sheriff's department feel comfortable

505
00:51:21,330 --> 00:51:26,690
working or standing a helping to stand up in a evacuation site on tribal

506
00:51:26,690 --> 00:51:30,550
trust lands. And I said, oh, yes, we already do that at Middletown

507
00:51:30,550 --> 00:51:36,170
Branchory in the Twin Pine Events Center. And so the thought of having, so I

508
00:51:36,170 --> 00:51:43,110
added that information in there and I will get this amended letter to the clerk

509
00:51:43,110 --> 00:51:49,650
to post with the agenda shortly after this meeting. If it's approved. And so my

510
00:51:49,650 --> 00:51:57,430
time the intent is that we're still writing the grant and the intent is to put my time covering

511
00:51:57,430 --> 00:52:00,530
to do the outreach with the general public in the grant application.

512
00:52:02,370 --> 00:52:03,290
Thank you.

513
00:52:03,530 --> 00:52:05,150
I go ahead and see the president's advice to you.

514
00:52:05,410 --> 00:52:06,530
Appreciate all the additions.

515
00:52:06,670 --> 00:52:10,750
Appreciate the conversation and ready to approve this.

516
00:52:13,340 --> 00:52:14,220
Go ahead and see the president.

517
00:52:14,720 --> 00:52:20,860
I had read something in there where it would also be open to public.

518
00:52:20,860 --> 00:52:26,920
it wouldn't just be okay. Yes, correct. When it's a cooling center, warming center,

519
00:52:27,660 --> 00:52:32,160
um, when there's, uh, we need up space for clean air days, because maybe we're being

520
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:36,600
inundated by smoke from somewhere else, or in evacuation shelter, it will be open to the general

521
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:42,360
public. Otherwise, closed. That's not the discretion of the tribe, but they haven't, I don't think.

522
00:52:43,600 --> 00:52:49,320
And, uh, Mr. Fulson is here from Huben, Metallol. He may be, you know, where I wasn't on the meetings

523
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:54,760
last week. The grant is due September 24th.

524
00:52:56,790 --> 00:52:59,970
Any other superiors or questions? I'd

525
00:52:59,970 --> 00:53:04,510
see any. I'll go ahead and open it to the public. We have Mr. Folsom here.

526
00:53:08,250 --> 00:53:08,450
Good morning,

527
00:53:08,570 --> 00:53:13,230
Board. My name is Greg Folsom. I'm the facilities and lands administrator for the HPUL

528
00:53:13,230 --> 00:53:19,750
Habemmedil of Upper Lake Tribe. Appreciate you guys considering this. We really do appreciate

529
00:53:19,750 --> 00:53:23,990
the partnership we have with the county. Terry actually brought this grant opportunity to

530
00:53:23,990 --> 00:53:30,070
months ago and so we've been looking at it for a while. As you know we had received about a

531
00:53:30,070 --> 00:53:35,270
$3 million grant from Congressman Thompson to do a community center. It was going to be

532
00:53:35,270 --> 00:53:40,710
basically a community center similar to our tribal hall in Upper Lake but you know with updated

533
00:53:40,710 --> 00:53:46,230
with more amenities. If we were able to get this grant, this is an implementation grant. This will

534
00:53:46,230 --> 00:53:52,830
help us to put in things like a commercial kitchen, advanced filtration systems in the HBC, just

535
00:53:52,830 --> 00:53:57,090
you know, so with their spires that people can still breathe and do other types of upgraded

536
00:53:57,090 --> 00:54:02,890
things so that it can be both a cooling and heating shelter for the whole community our

537
00:54:02,890 --> 00:54:06,710
leadership said yes we want this to be an amenity for the community not just for our own tribe.

538
00:54:07,330 --> 00:54:14,490
So that's the plan and that's we absolutely appreciate your support and hope that we can get that from you

539
00:54:14,490 --> 00:54:20,630
today. Thank you. Thank you Mr. Posen. Anyone else in the room? I'm not seeing anyone online

540
00:54:20,630 --> 00:54:24,810
And I'll bring it back close, put the comment, bring it back to the board for action.

541
00:54:25,570 --> 00:54:30,910
Mr. Chair, I move that we approve the letter of commitment for the Habemitolo Poma of

542
00:54:30,910 --> 00:54:35,470
Upper Lakes Grant Application for Community Resilience Center Program around to implementation.

543
00:54:36,110 --> 00:54:38,670
Grant Application and Authorize the Characters Line.

544
00:54:38,950 --> 00:54:39,670
Mr. Chair.

545
00:54:39,670 --> 00:54:40,150
Mr. Chair.

546
00:54:40,410 --> 00:54:40,570
I may.

547
00:54:40,890 --> 00:54:41,190
Yes.

548
00:54:41,510 --> 00:54:41,710
Go ahead.

549
00:54:41,790 --> 00:54:43,750
Can we as amended because I think there were amendments.

550
00:54:44,070 --> 00:54:44,990
As amended.

551
00:54:45,690 --> 00:54:45,970
Still second.

552
00:54:46,330 --> 00:54:46,650
Okay.

553
00:54:47,230 --> 00:54:48,650
I have a motion in a second.

554
00:54:49,450 --> 00:54:49,990
All in favor.

555
00:54:51,090 --> 00:54:59,490
I opposed hearing none that carries 4-0. Thank you and it's not 10 a.m. for our 6.6. I think we're going to jump.

556
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:08,620
Back to 5.4, unless you have any other suggestions, when to go ahead and read out 5.4.

557
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:20,200
This is an addendum. It's approved the letter requesting Governor Newsom Vito AB 2494, and authorized the chair to sign.

558
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:28,480
this was sponsored by myself and Vice Chair Pyskay and do you want to make any comments

559
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:34,220
at this evening or just okay. All right so we have the item introduced and I

560
00:55:34,220 --> 00:55:38,440
know there were some questions so I'll turn it over to Supervisor Syvaya. If you

561
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:43,780
would like I can start off with just I guess my questions and my concerns. One I

562
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:49,060
hope that in the future I think this is the very first time I've ever seen us

563
00:55:49,060 --> 00:55:54,640
asking our governor to veto, I think that should require a higher threshold than just a

564
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:59,580
consent agenda, I think, especially when we have our state representatives who have voted

565
00:55:59,580 --> 00:56:05,280
for this bill, and so to go against them and to ask the governor to veto is kind of a first

566
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:10,420
in my book, and I think it requires a discussion with a level of understanding. I don't

567
00:56:10,420 --> 00:56:14,200
have a great level of understanding other than the research that I've done and the conversations

568
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:22,100
that I've had, and what I see is the bill is changing a certain section, and I don't have

569
00:56:22,100 --> 00:56:28,100
the code right in front of me, but it's changing a certain section of the public resource code

570
00:56:29,420 --> 00:56:41,060
that before did not delineate specifically the DSF, the designated state forest, or the demonstration

571
00:56:41,060 --> 00:56:47,740
state forest. What it says in there I think it's under letter G where it finally now does state

572
00:56:47,740 --> 00:56:54,120
specifically the demonstration state forest that it will be supple, it's at a lower priority,

573
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:58,240
which I think is potentially part of the reason that there's pushback because it's such a low

574
00:56:58,240 --> 00:57:06,460
priority, but it's at a lower priority for supplemental funding and then it guides back to another place

575
00:57:06,460 --> 00:57:12,680
public resource code where that funding originates from. So the questions that I've had are,

576
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:18,140
are we still getting the same level of funding? Is there really a limitation on what can be done

577
00:57:18,140 --> 00:57:25,720
because this code is separate from the other code. So I'm not understanding if we're losing or gaining

578
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:32,800
and I know there's some concern with the carbon sequestration or the terminology. But I guess what I

579
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:39,660
issues with is I'm not seeing the language nor was it identified for me in the memo to say here's

580
00:57:39,660 --> 00:57:45,040
what we're losing and here's what we're gaining but on the other side we're also pushing back

581
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:51,780
against our state representatives and asking our governor to veto something that what's the

582
00:57:51,780 --> 00:57:58,460
gain of winning this what's the loss of losing this and I just think it's going to get signed anyways

583
00:57:58,460 --> 00:58:01,940
is because it looks to me the vote was based on party lines.

584
00:58:03,500 --> 00:58:04,720
So I could be wrong.

585
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:08,360
There's times where our legislators and our governor are not

586
00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:14,960
exactly in a lockstep, but I guess I just need some

587
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:17,540
better understanding of, and now we put it in a letter

588
00:58:17,540 --> 00:58:19,000
saying we oppose and less amended.

589
00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:23,040
It was amended just not to the level of our liking,

590
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:26,920
but this is another level of letter of support.

591
00:58:27,100 --> 00:58:30,120
Our letter asking for a veto that I just think requires

592
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:34,760
more conversation and I'd love to better understand and I'm open to any information that

593
00:58:34,760 --> 00:58:36,460
you can provide to help me better understand.

594
00:58:36,900 --> 00:58:38,520
All right, I'll start with Vice Chair.

595
00:58:38,840 --> 00:58:45,500
Well I'll respond but I do want to invite both Matthew and Dr. Jones up to speak on it too as our

596
00:58:45,500 --> 00:58:46,100
experts.

597
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:52,260
Mr. Ross, can you come up as well?

598
00:58:52,840 --> 00:59:00,560
So we did have this letter to support if amended and none of the amendments that we really asked for

599
00:59:00,560 --> 00:59:07,520
were taken seriously, Dr. Jones and Matthew and I had several conversations with the author's

600
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:15,840
office and to say that they were dismissive of our request as being generous. And I've had

601
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:21,340
multiple conversations with Senator McGuire's capital staff. They understand our position.

602
00:59:22,060 --> 00:59:28,540
I let them know on Friday before it was posted. They understand our position. This is not a

603
00:59:29,500 --> 00:59:34,400
this was part of a package to be pushed through in a partisan way.

604
00:59:34,740 --> 00:59:38,060
Unfortunately, probably if it was a standalone, it would not have passed.

605
00:59:39,060 --> 00:59:45,360
So, that's the reason why I am asking for this along with many of our colleagues

606
00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:50,320
up in down the state. This is a particularly bad bill for box demonstration

607
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:59,960
and it is very clear after many many conversations that this bill is specifically targeted to specific issues.

608
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:08,980
That Jackson for us and does not consider the rest of the demonstration for us up and down the stage, so I'll pass over to our experts here.

609
01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:10,820
Dr. Jen, she went off.

610
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:12,760
Thank you. Good morning, Chair.

611
01:00:12,860 --> 01:00:13,920
Rest in the Senate Board.

612
01:00:14,180 --> 01:00:21,780
Michael Jones, here as your county forester and just representing my capacity as an academic and researcher and a professional forester.

613
01:00:21,780 --> 01:00:30,020
So to answer directly your question, remember, Sabadyea, the way the Demonstration State Forest

614
01:00:30,020 --> 01:00:34,620
are currently funded is through timber operation, so they're completely self-sufficient

615
01:00:34,620 --> 01:00:40,180
all the money that all the forest, 14 of them across the state operate is generating through

616
01:00:40,180 --> 01:00:42,860
timber managed on state forest lands.

617
01:00:43,240 --> 01:00:47,700
That's funded through, it's called Frith, the Forest Resource Improvement Fund, so the money

618
01:00:47,700 --> 01:00:51,820
generated goes in that fund and that's directly how the forest operate.

619
01:00:52,460 --> 01:00:59,860
The bill would change that to suggest that Friff still is still exist.

620
01:01:00,100 --> 01:01:04,360
It's still where income generated off the forest goes, but there's a supplemental pathway

621
01:01:04,360 --> 01:01:10,780
through to another fund called Turfer or the Timber Regulation Forest Restoration Fund,

622
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:14,440
which is that's income generated through taxes.

623
01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:21,100
So, and that fund is what's used to fund all the agencies that have oversight on timber management, timber regulation.

624
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:29,840
So, fish and wildlife, the Department of Geological Services, those agencies all get funded to do their oversight of timber,

625
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:36,160
of forest practice rules in timber regulation and state. So it creates a pathway to use those funds to then support the demonstration state forest.

626
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:43,240
I think because the bill's intention is to shift the mission of the demonstration

627
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:46,880
to set it for us away from sustainable timber management demonstration research, they've created

628
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:52,500
this pathway as a way to supplement that loss revenue that would be lost because of a reduction

629
01:01:52,500 --> 01:01:53,360
in timber operations.

630
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:56,980
I'm not sure how that would work.

631
01:01:57,060 --> 01:02:03,520
It doesn't seem very appropriate because turf for is specifically designed to fund and ensure

632
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:11,560
proper oversight and regulation of forest operations, whereas Frith is to help support the mission of the demonstration site forest,

633
01:02:11,660 --> 01:02:17,060
so it seems like maybe an interesting and not necessarily sensible use of those funds.

634
01:02:17,500 --> 01:02:23,700
Especially when the system is already self-sufficient. Why would you take a completely independent operating forest

635
01:02:23,700 --> 01:02:29,400
the demonstration state forest system and make it reliant on tax income or other other

636
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:37,260
funds. And the Senate appropriations, their staff analysis made the same kind of conclusions

637
01:02:38,320 --> 01:02:43,560
that this could be a significant financial impact to the state, because that loss of self-sufficient

638
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:48,400
funds off the demonstration state forest. And so even though you use the word supplemental,

639
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:54,120
It's not the word, because you're using that word, because that word is in the code.

640
01:02:55,120 --> 01:03:01,420
It's not supplemental, because supplemental are you supplanting or adding?

641
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:06,260
Is that the word, what is it intended to confuse?

642
01:03:06,320 --> 01:03:07,320
And it's just not adding.

643
01:03:09,940 --> 01:03:13,760
I think it would, I don't know, I don't want to speculate.

644
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:15,420
I'm not really sure why they added that.

645
01:03:15,420 --> 01:03:21,450
I think it seems like it's potentially a pathway

646
01:03:21,450 --> 01:03:23,530
to replace the reliance on timber operations

647
01:03:23,530 --> 01:03:25,310
as kind of the way the bill is written.

648
01:03:31,220 --> 01:03:32,420
Did you have anything further?

649
01:03:34,680 --> 01:03:37,020
So the one thing that I'll add, Matthew Roth,

650
01:03:37,020 --> 01:03:39,040
192 Deputy County Administrative Officer,

651
01:03:39,660 --> 01:03:41,700
is there were steps that were set in motion

652
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:45,300
as we looked to recover from the Valley Fire.

653
01:03:46,100 --> 01:03:48,700
The forest was replanted, it was highly successful.

654
01:03:48,700 --> 01:03:58,780
There is going to be a need to engage in active timber management practices in order to follow through on that thread that was started more than 10 years ago.

655
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:02,860
Additionally, research was initiated that will have benefits statewide.

656
01:04:03,620 --> 01:04:15,160
And what we're hearing from our forestry professionals is that the probability that that research can be successfully completed and conducted is diminished if this bill passes as written.

657
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:21,740
So, we do have concern that the best possible approach can be taken with bugs for specifically.

658
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:26,980
That's our core concern given that is our state administration forest in Lake County.

659
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:34,460
And also more broadly, the governor's office has invested heavily and state wide agencies have invested heavily.

660
01:04:34,900 --> 01:04:39,580
With the wildfire and forest resilience task force, and our supervisor PISCA has been a huge part of that effort.

661
01:04:39,580 --> 01:04:44,700
The way that this bill is framed, the documents produced by that task force, are listed

662
01:04:44,700 --> 01:04:50,860
as one of the sources of priority, as opposed to having differential priority as a result

663
01:04:50,860 --> 01:04:52,400
of the investments that were made.

664
01:04:53,180 --> 01:04:56,480
So those are the core concerns that I think still remain in addition to those points raised

665
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:59,740
by Dr. Jones and Dr. Jones really appreciate you being here this morning.

666
01:05:01,040 --> 01:05:04,700
Thank you. Any further questions? Supervisors by TA?

667
01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:12,160
And I guess I'll just read for both myself, everybody in the public, where letter G, which is basically

668
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:19,820
A through I, I think it is, or is it through J, A through J, each specific letter is

669
01:05:19,820 --> 01:05:26,920
is prioritized, like A through C, D through F, and then G is the third priority level and that's

670
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:32,840
the state demonstration force or the demonstration state forest belong. And what it says is

671
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:39,120
to support demonstration state forest as a supplemental source if necessary to the money is

672
01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:46,100
provided by the forest resources improvement fund as established pursuant to section 4799.13.

673
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:54,420
And what I don't see in the rest is any changes to 4799.13. And so I guess I'm just

674
01:05:55,840 --> 01:06:03,280
I appreciate the information, and I feel like I'm getting, I mean, no fence to anybody.

675
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:07,440
I'm getting a lot of words, but I'm not getting a lot of here's the code and here's

676
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:16,600
how it works, and this is what it does, and I just think we need to be cautious in

677
01:06:18,650 --> 01:06:19,190
these types

678
01:06:19,190 --> 01:06:19,630
of action.

679
01:06:20,070 --> 01:06:25,810
So, and I know that RCRC is requesting that, but I also don't always agree with RCRC either.

680
01:06:27,390 --> 01:06:36,430
RCRC Farm Bureau, many counties, Timber Harvest, and Timber Management is a really important part of Forest Health.

681
01:06:37,210 --> 01:06:42,330
This is an argument that kind of takes us back decades.

682
01:06:43,750 --> 01:06:50,010
The original intent is to limit Timber Harvest and Pen Boggs Forest for the Forest Management,

683
01:06:50,250 --> 01:06:52,270
for the safety of the communities around the forest.

684
01:06:52,270 --> 01:06:59,110
We need to make sure that not only we can continue to do that, but also the research that's happening that's studied.

685
01:07:00,110 --> 01:07:03,670
Recovery after catastrophic fires needs to continue.

686
01:07:04,210 --> 01:07:07,090
It's one of the only forests that virtually all burned.

687
01:07:07,910 --> 01:07:16,210
And there's an incredible amount of research on soil and watershed recovery and forest recovery that we really need to protect.

688
01:07:16,210 --> 01:07:21,470
around the state there's about 80,000 acres only of demonstration forests.

689
01:07:22,830 --> 01:07:30,790
That is a tiny amount to do the type of research that's required for us to learn more and to continue to evolve.

690
01:07:31,190 --> 01:07:39,210
What I've asked for all along is that we align all of this work with the strategy of the task force

691
01:07:39,210 --> 01:07:45,810
rather than has it have it as an option because those strategies will continue to evolve as we learn more.

692
01:07:48,460 --> 01:07:50,940
any other supervisor questions?

693
01:07:51,620 --> 01:07:56,420
Well, I'll just say, you know, I'm in support of asking for the government of Edo

694
01:07:56,420 --> 01:07:56,700
it.

695
01:07:56,940 --> 01:08:02,740
I mean, I think there's a lot of complexities, but this whole thing started in relation

696
01:08:02,740 --> 01:08:09,720
to one for us, and I think that, you know, there's differences, particularly in our forest

697
01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:12,160
and bogs, which is unique.

698
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:16,940
It's the only one that's pretty much the whole forest burns, so there's a lot of different

699
01:08:16,940 --> 01:08:24,500
issues and I would just rather see this bill worked on more and make sure that everything

700
01:08:24,500 --> 01:08:28,340
that we might be concerned about staying care, so that's where I fall.

701
01:08:29,820 --> 01:08:31,920
It doesn't sound like we have any more from the board.

702
01:08:32,100 --> 01:08:36,960
I'll open it to the public, is there anyone in the public that wishes to comment on this

703
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:37,320
item?

704
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:52,100
I've got a lot of experience in this field, and while to the supervisors, one of the supervisors,

705
01:08:52,780 --> 01:08:58,780
alluding to maybe some political capital that may be suffered with approving this veto,

706
01:08:59,540 --> 01:09:04,960
I think it'll still send a good message to the governor about how we feel about this,

707
01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:13,960
And pulling those demonstration forest out would have been a key piece of this and that didn't happen.

708
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:20,460
So I think sending the message to the governor that we're no happier about this is really really powerful and a good message.

709
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:23,820
Thank you. Anyone else in the room?

710
01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:25,300
I wish it's a speak.

711
01:09:26,180 --> 01:09:28,220
I'll go online. Do we have anyone online?

712
01:09:29,440 --> 01:09:29,600
Okay.

713
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:30,380
Hello,

714
01:09:32,620 --> 01:09:40,800
again, yes. Thank you supervisors for allowing me to speak. I appreciate the fact that this letter was brought forward.

715
01:09:41,800 --> 01:09:58,300
Sometimes a nonpartisan groups such as our Board of Supervisors of Lake County needs to make what might seem to be a politically uncertain action in order to protect our county and our lands.

716
01:09:58,300 --> 01:09:59,960
And so I appreciate...

717
01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:09,340
Thank you.

718
01:10:18,340 --> 01:10:18,780
Mr.

719
01:10:27,500 --> 01:10:29,860
Chair, I move that we approve the letter requesting Governor

720
01:10:29,860 --> 01:10:33,760
Are you some Vito AB 2494 and authorized the chair to sign?

721
01:10:36,940 --> 01:10:38,280
Then I'll go ahead and second.

722
01:10:39,340 --> 01:10:41,220
So I have a motion in a second, all in favor.

723
01:10:42,020 --> 01:10:43,100
I opposed?

724
01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:43,600
No.

725
01:10:44,820 --> 01:10:47,380
Okay, that carries three one.

726
01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:48,740
Thank you.

727
01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:50,040
Thank you for coming.

728
01:10:50,180 --> 01:10:51,020
Thank you for coming.

729
01:10:51,020 --> 01:10:51,340
Thank you for coming.

730
01:10:51,340 --> 01:10:51,840
Good to see you.

731
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:58,560
And we're at 10-10, but I need to take a short five-minute break before we move on to our

732
01:10:58,560 --> 01:10:58,960
10-A.

733
01:10:58,960 --> 01:10:59,480
I'm item.

734
01:11:00,580 --> 01:11:01,340
Yeah, you're welcome.

735
01:11:01,340 --> 01:11:01,720
Okay.

736
01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:13,420
I'm going to call our meeting back to order, and we're going to move on to our 10 AM 6.6 item. We will

737
01:18:13,420 --> 01:18:19,060
be setting as the Lake County Watershed Protection District Board of Directors. And this is

738
01:18:19,060 --> 01:18:24,940
consideration of a presentation regarding proposed fee increases for Quarga Muscle Prevention

739
01:18:24,940 --> 01:18:33,240
program stickers and draft special event Lake Access Permit and consider approval the result revised

740
01:18:33,240 --> 01:18:44,240
proposed fee schedule. This is brought to us by our Watershed Protection District staff and at this point I'll turn it over to Director Apadiay.

741
01:18:46,890 --> 01:18:51,750
Good morning, Board. It's a very important party at Lake County Water Institute said director.

742
01:18:53,450 --> 01:18:55,710
Good morning, Board. Good morning, Board.

743
01:18:55,850 --> 01:19:00,250
Good morning, Board. My name is Thomas Fardig, a aquatic invasive species program coordinator.

744
01:19:02,330 --> 01:19:03,010
Good morning, Board.

745
01:19:03,010 --> 01:19:10,450
My name is Aspankhara. I'm Lake County Water Resources Field Technician. I'm out here and I work with Thama's closely for our invasive species program.

746
01:19:11,850 --> 01:19:20,570
Thank you. Yeah, so a brief introduction to this item. Like a previously we came to the board to ask for some funding to be provided.

747
01:19:22,130 --> 01:19:28,050
early in the season like in our budget session that was in June and that was the direction

748
01:19:28,050 --> 01:19:35,050
given to us by the board saying we need to do this our background work here and come back

749
01:19:35,050 --> 01:19:41,630
to the board about bringing the program to more a better financial status which is basically

750
01:19:41,630 --> 01:19:47,070
because this program historically has been grand dependent and even though there is summary

751
01:19:47,070 --> 01:19:52,030
any which used to come from the sticker sale, but it was fairly minimal compared to like

752
01:19:52,030 --> 01:19:58,490
what the program cost has been. And considering like how much the cost has gone up in last

753
01:19:58,490 --> 01:19:59,970
5 years this program was

754
01:20:02,380 --> 01:20:10,120
And just in the year, like when we didn't receive any grant, we were in a situation like where we

755
01:20:10,120 --> 01:20:16,200
won't be able to run the program. I think that that's which has necessited it increase in the

756
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:29,980
sticker price, because that's kind of our revenue to run this program. And also, as is was directed by the

757
01:20:29,980 --> 01:20:32,740
additional support, which might be available to us.

758
01:20:34,260 --> 01:20:37,560
And I think prevention is like one of the best

759
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:40,940
measures to control this guagain zebra muscle program.

760
01:20:41,740 --> 01:20:46,500
And I think this program is mainly focuses on the prevention.

761
01:20:47,620 --> 01:20:53,400
So I think our next I will give it to Thomas and he can give the presentation and

762
01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:54,680
dive deep into that.

763
01:20:54,700 --> 01:20:58,240
And then if there is any further question, we can answer that after the presentation.

764
01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:01,220
or during the presentation as well.

765
01:21:17,970 --> 01:21:18,310
All right.

766
01:21:18,410 --> 01:21:19,430
Good morning, everyone.

767
01:21:19,730 --> 01:21:20,430
Good morning, board.

768
01:21:20,710 --> 01:21:21,230
Good morning.

769
01:21:23,450 --> 01:21:29,030
To start off, I just want to go over our presentation here.

770
01:21:31,420 --> 01:21:39,780
So what we are requesting is a proposed sticker increase and the adoption of a special

771
01:21:39,780 --> 01:21:42,660
lake fee event or event fee.

772
01:21:42,660 --> 01:21:49,680
So, the board has previously directed the staff to pursue a financially sustainable

773
01:21:49,680 --> 01:21:52,480
quagga muscle prevention program.

774
01:21:53,120 --> 01:21:59,720
Program has been set earlier, is heavily grant funded.

775
01:22:00,380 --> 01:22:02,400
Grant funding is not guaranteed.

776
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:11,220
So, we are seeking approval for fee adjustments to support the long-term program sustainability.

777
01:22:11,220 --> 01:22:20,090
So the species of muscles were most concerned about. It's not just quagga. We also got zebra.

778
01:22:20,350 --> 01:22:28,010
We got ax head muscles. The new muscle that has been popping up most recently is the golden muscle.

779
01:22:28,930 --> 01:22:36,330
In 2025, it has continued to spread throughout the delta and continues to spread north.

780
01:22:36,330 --> 01:22:39,690
and they continue to do so.

781
01:22:40,990 --> 01:22:46,770
There are unintentionally moved between water bodies by hitchhacking

782
01:22:47,330 --> 01:22:49,210
on watercraft and equipment.

783
01:22:51,350 --> 01:22:56,370
So individuals that watercraft owners are inadvertently

784
01:22:56,370 --> 01:22:58,970
bringing these muscles to different water bodies,

785
01:22:59,510 --> 01:23:03,680
not on purpose, but just because of the fact that they have the

786
01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:10,000
and hitchhiking any wet environment and move into different water bodies.

787
01:23:11,840 --> 01:23:19,900
Both adult muscles and the larval stage, which is known as bellagers, can be moved between water bodies

788
01:23:19,900 --> 01:23:24,440
and some of the worst are the bellagers, because you can't see them without a microscope.

789
01:23:25,420 --> 01:23:31,500
If there is a cup of water in a boat that was an infected water body,

790
01:23:31,500 --> 01:23:39,140
and it comes into a non-affected, you have the potential for infection in that other water

791
01:23:39,140 --> 01:23:47,620
body. It only takes a few valengers to be able to start a new population. They are asexual

792
01:23:47,620 --> 01:23:55,180
as well, so they can reproduce with just one or two. They don't need a bunch of them to

793
01:23:55,180 --> 01:23:57,840
go through their life cycle.

794
01:24:00,220 --> 01:24:03,900
Clear Lake supports tourism, recreation, agriculture, drinking

795
01:24:03,900 --> 01:24:11,960
water systems. We have a very dynamic lake. Approximately 66% of Lake County residents

796
01:24:11,960 --> 01:24:19,400
rely on clear lake for drinking water. This is one of our biggest concerns for our

797
01:24:19,400 --> 01:24:27,440
invasive species muscle program. We are worried about residents that live on the lake and their

798
01:24:27,440 --> 01:24:36,620
infrastructure. That is a large concern for us. Invasive muscles thread in infrastructure, private property

799
01:24:36,620 --> 01:24:46,060
docks, fisheries, and public access. And once they're established, invasive muscles are extremely

800
01:24:46,060 --> 01:24:53,020
difficult and expensive to remove. The saying I always like is one ounce of prevention

801
01:24:53,020 --> 01:24:59,960
is worth a pound of cure. Once we get them, it's going to cost a lot more money to get rid.

802
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,440
If it's even feasible.

803
01:25:06,730 --> 01:25:13,650
What are our risks for our economy? Well, reduce voting and fishing activity, which could hurt our tourism revenue.

804
01:25:14,270 --> 01:25:22,790
Agricultural irrigation systems could face expensive repairs and downtime and maintenance.

805
01:25:22,790 --> 01:25:31,750
increase cost to maintain water intake infrastructure for public and private water systems.

806
01:25:32,970 --> 01:25:40,570
And businesses tied to recreation and lake access may suffer economic losses as well,

807
01:25:41,070 --> 01:25:43,370
if the muscles do get into the lake.

808
01:25:47,360 --> 01:25:58,320
So, just to go through some of the threats, a little more in detail, muscles can clog intake pipes, pumps, irrigation systems, and treatment equipment.

809
01:25:59,240 --> 01:26:08,320
Infrastructure or an infestation and infrastructure can reduce water flow efficiency and increase maintenance cost over time.

810
01:26:08,320 --> 01:26:28,220
It may require expensive long-term chemical treatment, yearly chemical treatment to keep the muscles out of infrastructure and clogging infrastructure, or you may have to replace infrastructure.

811
01:26:29,100 --> 01:26:36,560
And the annual cost of mitigate invasive muscle damage can run into the millions of dollars.

812
01:26:40,940 --> 01:26:46,100
So here are some photos, we also brought a display for you.

813
01:26:46,780 --> 01:26:55,500
So these pieces of PVC pipe were dropped into Lake Mead, which is a muscle-infested lake.

814
01:26:55,500 --> 01:27:00,820
You can see the difference from zero, one, three, and six months.

815
01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:06,340
So, these muscles are very small when they die, they just grow on top of each other.

816
01:27:06,580 --> 01:27:10,080
And that's that clogging that we're concerned about.

817
01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:15,600
And they have a very rapid, quick spread, and they grow very fast,

818
01:27:15,700 --> 01:27:18,080
especially with the nutrients in clear lake.

819
01:27:18,460 --> 01:27:22,840
They have all the food and sunlight they need to grow as fast as they can.

820
01:27:25,660 --> 01:27:33,420
Threats of hybrid property, they can follow boat engines, causing damage and expensive repairs,

821
01:27:33,880 --> 01:27:39,680
especially for boaters that leave their boat in the water for two or three months, and don't use it often.

822
01:27:41,460 --> 01:27:47,680
They can encrust on boats, reducing flow efficiency and your boat performance.

823
01:27:47,680 --> 01:27:57,280
They can encrust on docks and private infrastructure, requiring expensive yearly maintenance to have someone out there scraping them off.

824
01:27:58,300 --> 01:28:10,740
And in the long grand scheme of things, they could potentially reduce the property values of lakeside properties if their docks are full of muscles.

825
01:28:10,740 --> 01:28:18,700
So, some examples you've got a propeller that has sat in a lake for way too long without

826
01:28:18,700 --> 01:28:28,980
being used on the top right is a side of a boat, and then the bottom center is part of

827
01:28:28,980 --> 01:28:33,040
a dock infrastructure, and that way is the docked down.

828
01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:38,640
You can't continue leaving it without eventually having to peel it off, otherwise it gets

829
01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:43,800
heavy and you may have issues with your docks, structural integrity.

830
01:28:45,920 --> 01:28:46,860
So, threats to public

831
01:28:46,860 --> 01:28:54,060
access. When invasive muscles die, their shells litter beaches and are extremely sharp.

832
01:28:55,200 --> 01:29:01,300
So, the beaches we have now are nice pebble. If we have a full infestation like the great lakes,

833
01:29:01,700 --> 01:29:06,300
you can't go on the beaches without wearing shoes. You will cut your feet.

834
01:29:06,300 --> 01:29:18,920
They must also die off also release toxins, which can decrease water quality and increase the cost of water treatment plants to treat the water.

835
01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:26,760
It also exacerbates the current water quality issues, lake county experiences with cyanotoxins.

836
01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:36,420
It's just one more to add onto that that we would be an issue for our swimmers and our tourism.

837
01:29:37,460 --> 01:29:40,360
It also smells very noxious.

838
01:29:41,300 --> 01:29:44,620
So, die-offs they release that noxious toxins,

839
01:29:45,680 --> 01:29:51,540
which volatile, volatilizes into the air and is released as noxious odor.

840
01:29:51,540 --> 01:29:59,620
That will exacerbate the smell of cyanobacteria and the lake already we're experiencing.

841
01:30:01,550 --> 01:30:10,390
So some examples, it's a little hard to see, but on the right, is quagamussels on a beach in Lake Michigan.

842
01:30:11,050 --> 01:30:17,650
On the left is a photo of our beach with nice pebble. We want to prevent what's on the right.

843
01:30:17,950 --> 01:30:29,430
We want people to be able to enjoy our beaches without having to worry about cutting their feet or walking barefoot on our Lake County beaches.

844
01:30:30,810 --> 01:30:41,350
So, another issue we are concerned about over time grant funding state and federal has slowly decreased.

845
01:30:42,070 --> 01:30:50,470
So, the graph I am showing you now is quagas zebra muscle infestation prevention program state funding.

846
01:30:50,470 --> 01:31:00,430
So this is one particular grants. As you can see, the amount of money funded has decreased over time.

847
01:31:02,010 --> 01:31:17,650
Also, the number of funded projects from a high of 2016, 19 funded projects to a low of 2025,

848
01:31:17,650 --> 01:31:26,170
where they only funded six projects, that's six different lakes. So we are fighting a competitive

849
01:31:26,170 --> 01:31:33,570
competition to get grants for other water bodies that have the same concerns. And that is

850
01:31:33,570 --> 01:31:41,450
the big key here. We will likely continue to get some sort of grant funding because of the status

851
01:31:41,450 --> 01:31:48,430
of our lake, but we have to think about other avenues just in case we don't.

852
01:31:54,370 --> 01:32:02,550
So the top table you see here is sticker revenue for the last five years.

853
01:32:03,370 --> 01:32:11,530
The blue top is vendor stickers, so that's the amount of stickers sold by our vendors.

854
01:32:11,530 --> 01:32:23,050
A five-year average of that is 11,187 stickers on average, is what we've sold the last five years.

855
01:32:23,490 --> 01:32:26,390
On the bottom is our rant monitor sticker sales.

856
01:32:27,450 --> 01:32:34,010
On a five-year average, we sell about 1,090 of those a year.

857
01:32:41,940 --> 01:32:50,960
Based off of these historical averages, the far left shows our current billing at $20.

858
01:32:52,080 --> 01:32:57,640
So we are totally bringing in for since we've had $20.

859
01:32:57,640 --> 01:33:10,580
$1,670, 1,600, 1,670, 225 dollars.

860
01:33:12,900 --> 01:33:24,420
If we increase that to a $60 fee increase, we'll be bringing in $624,730.

861
01:33:25,320 --> 01:33:35,140
If we decided to go to 80, we're bringing in $870,000 to $200,000, and if we were to go to

862
01:33:35,140 --> 01:33:38,620
100, that's bringing in about $1.1 million.

863
01:33:45,840 --> 01:33:47,280
So run our program.

864
01:33:47,280 --> 01:33:59,840
So our ramp monitors, just to keep them funded, cost $481,000, $625.

865
01:34:01,120 --> 01:34:12,580
Our staff time for non-Ramp Monitor staff, $235,000, our operating expenses, which includes

866
01:34:12,580 --> 01:34:23,340
buying equipment, buying stickers, data sheets, doing water sampling, about $141,900.

867
01:34:24,640 --> 01:34:37,060
So our total program cost for this fiscal year, last, I mean last fiscal year was $858,611,

868
01:34:40,860 --> 01:34:41,220
sorry.

869
01:34:41,220 --> 01:34:56,420
Our revenue for the stickers is only 167,000, so we are running a deficit funding gap of 691,385 dollars.

870
01:34:56,420 --> 01:34:59,960
So, that funding gap has been

871
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:17,020
And filled with grants for the most part. And help from the board and county funds. So, if we were to increase

872
01:35:17,020 --> 01:35:26,620
the sticker price, to 60, we would be bringing in 457,504 dollars.

873
01:35:28,020 --> 01:35:39,720
And then we only need 233,881 dollars to cover with grants, which is a much easier number

874
01:35:39,720 --> 01:35:43,700
to cover than the 691,000.

875
01:35:45,010 --> 01:36:00,990
If we increase the sticker price to $80, we will bring in $730,000 and the expenses that we need covered by grants would be zero.

876
01:36:01,870 --> 01:36:06,150
At $80, the program would be self-sufficient.

877
01:36:11,320 --> 01:36:16,600
This is a table showing cost to get into other lakes.

878
01:36:16,600 --> 01:36:20,880
So, clear lake, we currently have no launch fee.

879
01:36:21,820 --> 01:36:29,020
Our resident quality sticker is only $20, our non-resident is $20, and our decontamination

880
01:36:29,580 --> 01:36:30,680
is free.

881
01:36:32,630 --> 01:36:33,690
Lake Tahoe.

882
01:36:34,630 --> 01:36:36,810
To get into the lake, it's $65.

883
01:36:38,210 --> 01:36:39,630
One use.

884
01:36:40,930 --> 01:36:44,250
And depending on if your boat needs decontamination,

885
01:36:44,250 --> 01:36:50,290
It could cost you anywhere from $60 to $350 or $60 to $100.

886
01:36:50,490 --> 01:36:54,230
If you have muscles attached on your boat, it's $350.

887
01:36:55,750 --> 01:36:58,850
You have to pay on top of your daily use fee.

888
01:36:59,690 --> 01:37:04,850
Lake Barriessa, $20 a day to get into the lake.

889
01:37:06,230 --> 01:37:08,990
You can buy a season launch pass for $300.

890
01:37:09,850 --> 01:37:12,770
For our residents, $60 is much cheaper.

891
01:37:13,410 --> 01:37:24,090
That's for the whole year, and you have to do decon, and your boat needs to do a seal, which prevents your boat from going into other water bodies.

892
01:37:24,090 --> 01:37:36,230
full some lake $10 to launch and there are decontamination fees and Lake Sonoma is $20

893
01:37:36,230 --> 01:37:47,790
launch fees. So we based our fee schedule off of what lakes in the area equivalent lakes charge for day use fees.

894
01:37:53,870 --> 01:38:04,130
So our recommendation as staff, looking through all the data, looking how other boats, our lakes manage their lakes and charge boaters.

895
01:38:04,890 --> 01:38:10,070
We are kindly requesting a sticker fee increase from 20 to 60.

896
01:38:11,050 --> 01:38:15,190
We will continue to allow free decontaminations.

897
01:38:16,310 --> 01:38:19,890
By increasing it to 60, we can still do that.

898
01:38:20,070 --> 01:38:23,910
That will be a free service we can provide.

899
01:38:24,630 --> 01:38:30,950
This will allow us to have a more predictable, stable funding, and not have to worry about

900
01:38:30,950 --> 01:38:32,970
whether we will get a grant or not.

901
01:38:33,450 --> 01:38:39,690
It will simplify administration cost because we know what's coming in and out,

902
01:38:42,010 --> 01:38:42,750
and it will

903
01:38:42,750 --> 01:38:45,910
the port long-term program sustainability.

904
01:38:53,250 --> 01:39:00,290
We also are kindly requesting a special event lake access permit with fees.

905
01:39:01,930 --> 01:39:05,150
And this is not just geared towards vast tournaments.

906
01:39:06,430 --> 01:39:11,870
Any event that requires quagas and inspections would fall under this.

907
01:39:12,130 --> 01:39:18,250
So the slash an event would be another one, any boat racing events would fall under this.

908
01:39:18,250 --> 01:39:24,170
Ask tournaments, catfish tournaments, any fishing tournaments would also fall under it.

909
01:39:24,630 --> 01:39:35,850
Currently, CDFW charges $82 to get a permit to have a tournament of any kind on our lake.

910
01:39:36,550 --> 01:39:38,530
We charge nothing right now.

911
01:39:38,970 --> 01:39:42,830
They can modify their events up to three times.

912
01:39:42,830 --> 01:39:51,170
These modifications cause water resources to have to modify staff scheduling, which cost

913
01:39:51,170 --> 01:39:52,030
time and money.

914
01:39:52,750 --> 01:39:59,970
So if we plan out staff scheduling and they change the tournament in a week from the

915
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:12,420
We have to scramble to rearrange our scheduling, which costs us time and money, not just in the office, but also our ramp monitors in the field.

916
01:40:13,700 --> 01:40:21,340
Many tournaments have participants from out of the area, and are considered high risk for transporting invasive muscles.

917
01:40:21,340 --> 01:40:30,360
Many tournaments are held in the Delta and they come up to clear lake within a couple of weeks to have their next tournament.

918
01:40:31,260 --> 01:40:41,260
In violation of the 30 day quarantine, those are red flags to us that we do our best to manage.

919
01:40:41,700 --> 01:40:49,360
This permit will help us manage those tournaments and make sure that they are going through decontamination.

920
01:40:49,360 --> 01:40:58,960
Some events can be extremely costly, for instance, one tournament over this summer cost the

921
01:40:58,960 --> 01:41:19,340
county $7,000 in just muscle dog fees because they had an open ramp launch and we had to

922
01:41:19,340 --> 01:41:28,080
and in the office. So $7,000 just in dogs for that tournament. And it was a nationwide

923
01:41:28,080 --> 01:41:33,340
tournament where best boats were coming from all over our nation to fish.

924
01:41:34,820 --> 01:41:43,100
This fiscal year, we spent $90,000 on muscle dogs to inspect and sniff boats.

925
01:41:45,660 --> 01:41:57,600
Charging events, a fee will cover our cost to meet the requirements set forth in our county ordinances, specifically our Quagga Muscle ordinances.

926
01:41:58,500 --> 01:42:10,260
So if we can pass off some of that $90,000 to very large tournaments that are bringing in lots of revenue, we feel that is justified.

927
01:42:10,260 --> 01:42:24,340
So, our proposed fee schedule for these tournaments, a $50 application fee, which was determined by looking at a

928
01:42:24,340 --> 01:42:32,200
coordinator staff at level six for about 45 minutes of their time, 5, level 5.

929
01:42:32,700 --> 01:42:39,040
So, we came up with that $50 as just covering the cost to approve the permit.

930
01:42:40,320 --> 01:42:47,260
The actual muscle dog and inspection cost for large events, so there's only about a dozen

931
01:42:47,260 --> 01:42:53,000
of these that will fall under this purview, but any event that has more than a hundred

932
01:42:53,000 --> 01:43:02,240
participants that requires quag inspections, we would like to pass some of those dog inspection

933
01:43:02,240 --> 01:43:10,720
cost onto them. The benefits of this, well, cost recovery, we can use that money for different

934
01:43:10,720 --> 01:43:18,160
days to have dogs and we can have more coverage on our lake. We can use that for staffing

935
01:43:19,140 --> 01:43:26,860
for rent monitors to staff further in the afternoon. It also ensures event-related cost

936
01:43:26,860 --> 01:43:30,380
are bor by the event, not the county.

937
01:43:31,940 --> 01:43:39,780
And it reduces burden on county taxpayers because their taxpayer dollars are not being used

938
01:43:40,520 --> 01:43:48,740
for to supplement an event,

939
01:43:51,890 --> 01:43:56,150
or I should say subsidize an event, that's a better word.

940
01:43:58,790 --> 01:44:02,010
What will this increased fund support?

941
01:44:02,790 --> 01:44:07,470
Well, we will be able to maintain and expand our watercraft inspections.

942
01:44:07,870 --> 01:44:12,110
We understand we can't be everywhere on an open lake all the time.

943
01:44:12,430 --> 01:44:16,050
All we can do is try to fill as many of those holes as possible.

944
01:44:16,650 --> 01:44:23,230
The more money we have, the more ability we can put our staff and fund them on the ramps.

945
01:44:24,230 --> 01:44:28,150
It will maintain a free decontamination service.

946
01:44:28,990 --> 01:44:35,890
So decontaminations, we are adamant, we want to keep that free as a service, because we

947
01:44:35,890 --> 01:44:43,670
want voters that have been in infected water bodies to not feel they have to lie to us,

948
01:44:43,990 --> 01:44:46,110
because they don't want to spend money on a decont.

949
01:44:46,110 --> 01:44:55,290
If it is free, so they tell us the truth, all they have to do is drive over and their boat gets a free wash, basically.

950
01:44:56,970 --> 01:44:59,970
We can maintain and expand our mus...

951
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:26,240
So, this is water quality. We sample for muscles on the lake at numerous points every month. This will allow us to continue that monitoring and maybe expand it. That way if we do find some muscles, we can attack that one spot and get it before it expands into the entire lake.

952
01:45:27,720 --> 01:45:36,660
We can also increase our public outreach with outreach events, like the county fair, like the MMIA event.

953
01:45:38,500 --> 01:45:46,260
There are multiple events throughout the county, and we want to be out there educating the public as much as we can.

954
01:45:46,840 --> 01:45:55,200
It also allows us to buy more science and increase our signage and prevention of our infrastructure.

955
01:45:55,200 --> 01:45:58,160
So it allows us to check things better.

956
01:45:59,680 --> 01:46:02,660
It also allows us to support a rapid response planning.

957
01:46:02,920 --> 01:46:07,480
So if we do get muscles, we have a game plan for that.

958
01:46:08,020 --> 01:46:15,060
And if we have funds set aside, we can put all everyone on deck

959
01:46:15,060 --> 01:46:19,240
and we can attack the issue immediately with that funding.

960
01:46:19,240 --> 01:46:24,520
And it reduces our reliance on the general fund resources.

961
01:46:28,740 --> 01:46:33,920
So, your key takeaways, invasive muscle thread and water reliability,

962
01:46:34,900 --> 01:46:37,860
infrastructure, recreation, and our local economy.

963
01:46:38,760 --> 01:46:41,880
Prevention programs require inspection, staffing,

964
01:46:42,580 --> 01:46:45,000
monitoring, public outreach, reporting,

965
01:46:46,580 --> 01:46:49,120
and needs to be self-sustainable.

966
01:46:50,200 --> 01:46:55,620
Our current fees do not allow us to be self-sustainable.

967
01:46:57,260 --> 01:47:05,900
Nationwide, in areas that are impacted, it costs annually close to a billion dollars

968
01:47:05,900 --> 01:47:09,120
if not more to control invasive muscles.

969
01:47:09,740 --> 01:47:14,340
You can just ask any water agency in the Great Lakes how they feel about that.

970
01:47:15,690 --> 01:47:22,790
And early prevention is far cheaper than long-term infants infestation management.

971
01:47:23,450 --> 01:47:32,530
What this also doesn't include is if we do get infested, we will lose our invasive species

972
01:47:32,530 --> 01:47:38,770
prevention grants because we will no longer need those grants because now we are infected.

973
01:47:39,430 --> 01:47:42,070
So the grants are giving to us for prevention.

974
01:47:42,070 --> 01:47:48,510
So, we will that resource will dry up if we do get infected.

975
01:47:53,730 --> 01:48:00,690
And once infected recreational events such as fishing tournaments and splash in event may be limited,

976
01:48:01,650 --> 01:48:09,210
if our water body becomes infested, tournaments may have trouble holding tournaments here.

977
01:48:09,210 --> 01:48:14,290
So there may not be a possibility to do that,

978
01:48:14,290 --> 01:48:19,190
and links that have become infested have stopped all boaters

979
01:48:19,190 --> 01:48:23,090
going on to their lake to make sure that they don't spread the muscles

980
01:48:23,090 --> 01:48:24,350
to other lakes.

981
01:48:25,310 --> 01:48:27,890
That is a non-negotiable for us.

982
01:48:28,770 --> 01:48:30,990
We can't get to that situation,

983
01:48:31,210 --> 01:48:33,930
and our community would not allow it.

984
01:48:33,930 --> 01:48:39,350
And protecting clear lake protects Lake County residents and businesses.

985
01:48:40,350 --> 01:48:42,750
So we see this as a holistic approach.

986
01:48:43,350 --> 01:48:48,910
We look at everyone that utilizes the lake, not just fishermen, not just recreational

987
01:48:48,910 --> 01:48:57,210
boaters, but also the public residents that use Lake County water or clear lake water.

988
01:48:57,610 --> 01:49:00,110
Everyone is what we're concerned about.

989
01:49:00,110 --> 01:49:07,830
and we see this as a larger, bigger issue than just one group of one user in the lake.

990
01:49:08,670 --> 01:49:18,470
We see it as, this is our lifeblood for our community and we can't risk it and references

991
01:49:18,470 --> 01:49:21,470
and thank you for your time.

992
01:49:23,750 --> 01:49:25,490
Anything further, director?

993
01:49:27,960 --> 01:49:31,320
All right, do we have any questions from board members?

994
01:49:31,540 --> 01:49:35,240
We'll start with Supervisor Owen and then Subotte.

995
01:49:36,980 --> 01:49:44,900
My first question is, do you know what the number or what percentage of stickers are local

996
01:49:44,900 --> 01:49:46,640
versus out of county?

997
01:49:46,980 --> 01:49:50,080
What I'm saying, local, I mean Lake County versus out of county?

998
01:49:51,380 --> 01:49:51,700
Yes.

999
01:49:51,700 --> 01:49:56,300
So here are residents, stickers,

1000
01:49:58,700 --> 01:49:59,740
for ramp monitors.

1001
01:50:00,750 --> 01:50:26,030
So we are, it looks like about, I don't have the average off top of my head here, but it looks like around 4,500. And then you add these to that. So I would say about 4,600. And then our visitor stickers are slightly higher, probably around 6,000. 6,000.

1002
01:50:26,030 --> 01:50:26,530
Okay.

1003
01:50:28,930 --> 01:50:38,830
Just food for thought. I know that we obviously are going to have to do something to increase our income on this to be able to cover it.

1004
01:50:39,410 --> 01:50:54,110
I wonder if there's a way to if not leave the local stickers at the 20 or 25 or 30 to keep them a little cheaper than the visitor stickers.

1005
01:50:55,210 --> 01:51:02,630
to be able to, because it's our people and just to keep it more, to kind of give them a break

1006
01:51:02,630 --> 01:51:09,110
if they live locally. And then if we needed to even, I understood what you were talking

1007
01:51:09,110 --> 01:51:20,550
about with the free decontamination, originally I was thinking, charge for that. But I understand

1008
01:51:20,550 --> 01:51:29,070
your thought process behind it, so I'm going to go with what you guys have on that for now.

1009
01:51:32,920 --> 01:51:36,680
I'll come back to me. I've lost my train of thought, so.

1010
01:51:36,980 --> 01:51:38,900
Can I answer your first question?

1011
01:51:39,780 --> 01:51:51,540
Okay. The reason we kept it at 60, so for residents, right now, they have a whole year, so the ones

1012
01:51:51,540 --> 01:51:58,540
that are currently bearing the brunt of the cost are the non-residents because if they want

1013
01:51:58,540 --> 01:52:02,580
to use the lake throughout the year, it will be 60 times 12.

1014
01:52:03,400 --> 01:52:15,600
So they're looking at about $720 for their stickers and $60 divide that by 12 months.

1015
01:52:16,900 --> 01:52:25,380
So, that's $5 a month and if you think about how much they cost per day, we're talking

1016
01:52:25,380 --> 01:52:27,260
around 20 cents per day.

1017
01:52:27,680 --> 01:52:27,940
I see.

1018
01:52:28,480 --> 01:52:29,000
I see.

1019
01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:30,260
Okay.

1020
01:52:33,840 --> 01:52:41,800
I was wondering about any other way that we could subsidize this from say, I know that it brings

1021
01:52:41,800 --> 01:52:50,480
in a lot of tourism, is there any interest or thoughts on something from the TOT or something

1022
01:52:50,480 --> 01:52:53,260
along those lines because it does bring in a lot of tourism?

1023
01:52:57,120 --> 01:52:57,140
Yeah.

1024
01:52:57,660 --> 01:53:04,220
So I think just to add to what Thomas was saying, so that $60 visitors is the annual pass,

1025
01:53:04,480 --> 01:53:09,360
so they have to be like $60 for a year, but the resident is $60 a month.

1026
01:53:12,330 --> 01:53:15,470
So those outside of the county are 60 dollars a month?

1027
01:53:15,810 --> 01:53:21,970
Yeah, so in a sense it's like $5 a month for residents and $20 for no one resident.

1028
01:53:21,970 --> 01:53:23,670
Okay, thank you.

1029
01:53:25,030 --> 01:53:25,910
Supervisor Svati.

1030
01:53:29,370 --> 01:53:32,430
I'm going to split this into two.

1031
01:53:32,430 --> 01:53:34,990
One is the event.

1032
01:53:34,990 --> 01:53:44,310
like I'm just to me if we have an event in one of our parks like there are fees that go along with

1033
01:53:44,310 --> 01:53:50,010
that to process the application to make sure that it's going to happen correctly. There's typically

1034
01:53:50,010 --> 01:53:53,910
at the posit that goes along with that to make sure that the park is found in the same

1035
01:53:53,910 --> 01:54:02,290
plate way that you founded in the first place. So I have no issues with an event cost especially if

1036
01:54:02,290 --> 01:54:07,950
costing us money and what I'm hoping and I think I see it in here but I just want to be more specific.

1037
01:54:08,450 --> 01:54:15,130
We have a master fee schedule. To me, there should be within the master fee schedule is on a

1038
01:54:15,130 --> 01:54:19,570
per event and then also on a per modification of the event because you're asking us to do more work.

1039
01:54:20,010 --> 01:54:26,230
You should be paying for that work. I think it should be at cost. It shouldn't be for necessarily

1040
01:54:26,230 --> 01:54:33,050
making money. But involved in that should also be, and I'm sure there is, the per sticker

1041
01:54:33,050 --> 01:54:39,290
that each boat, let's just say you have greater than 100 in an event, each boat should be getting

1042
01:54:39,290 --> 01:54:43,470
a sticker. Those boats probably don't come back every month, and if they do, they'll come back

1043
01:54:43,470 --> 01:54:49,910
the following month, and now they'll have to get a sticker again. So I'm a yes for moving forward

1044
01:54:49,910 --> 01:54:59,970
Um, with the event. I struggle with the increase of the stickers just because it's already starting at such a low amount.

1045
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:12,920
And it still doesn't fulfill all of your needs. I get it that it's slowly bridging the gap, as you lift it up. And I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm good with looking at and increase but not the increase that's being proposed.

1046
01:55:16,080 --> 01:55:29,960
And I want to I guess I'm looking at like a two or three year plan and I know I had a conversation with director of Padye about this. We've talked about the deconstations and I know there's some work that's going to happen possibly within the next few months.

1047
01:55:29,960 --> 01:55:33,100
where an RFP is going to go out or something along those lines.

1048
01:55:33,400 --> 01:55:35,800
And I think that needs to be a part of this conversation,

1049
01:55:37,100 --> 01:55:42,860
because I don't have any negative things to say about the sticker program.

1050
01:55:43,140 --> 01:55:44,440
I think the intent is great.

1051
01:55:44,600 --> 01:55:46,620
I think the work that is being done is great.

1052
01:55:47,580 --> 01:55:51,100
But there's also a whole lot of luck that's involved in the whole thing.

1053
01:55:52,920 --> 01:55:54,780
Because I get a sticker.

1054
01:55:55,280 --> 01:55:58,320
Then I go up Elf Mountain Road all the way to Lake Pillsbury.

1055
01:55:58,320 --> 01:56:03,440
nobody's monitoring Lake Pillsbury. Nobody's going up there for that. All kinds of people are

1056
01:56:03,440 --> 01:56:08,380
going up there potentially with boats that are infected. Then I come back and put my boat back

1057
01:56:08,380 --> 01:56:15,260
in clear Lake. I got a local sticker. I stayed in the local county, but yet it's just there's so many

1058
01:56:15,260 --> 01:56:22,720
holes in what could happen that I just knock on wood every single day that we don't have muscles

1059
01:56:22,720 --> 01:56:27,120
here. Part of that is the sticker program. But part of that is also just that that we've been

1060
01:56:27,120 --> 01:56:32,280
very fortunate that people are possibly just doing the right thing by draining their

1061
01:56:32,280 --> 01:56:35,140
boat and not bringing us infected vehicles.

1062
01:56:36,500 --> 01:56:45,220
But to me, the answer to our luck and the answer to our program is long-term, deconstations,

1063
01:56:45,860 --> 01:56:54,760
to capture as many entry points into our county where our locals, if they never left the county,

1064
01:56:54,760 --> 01:57:01,020
Never have to go through one of those deconstations, but if you do leave the county with your boat and then come back in

1065
01:57:01,020 --> 01:57:06,580
Then you will have to go through the deconstation because the the idea is if you left the county with your boat and you're coming back

1066
01:57:06,580 --> 01:57:08,860
You probably went somewhere to a body of water

1067
01:57:09,720 --> 01:57:15,680
So I I see that and I'm hopeful that it could be a two to three-year plan to

1068
01:57:15,680 --> 01:57:22,660
Figuring that out and yes, I'm okay with looking at an increase. I would say I'm very comfortable with 25

1069
01:57:23,460 --> 01:57:29,260
getting a little uncomfortable around the 30 marks, 60. I'm just like I'm I'm not feeling comfortable at all.

1070
01:57:30,860 --> 01:57:32,340
The event one, no problem.

1071
01:57:35,520 --> 01:57:37,160
There was something else. Yes, and

1072
01:57:37,900 --> 01:57:44,180
Continue to go after those grants. I know that we had a conversation where we felt like we missed it. We did get something.

1073
01:57:44,680 --> 01:57:54,160
It wasn't obviously enough to cover the whole thing. We did provide some funding. I don't know if it came from cannabis. I'm guessing it did because I see a bunch of nods in the back of the room.

1074
01:57:54,740 --> 01:58:03,520
to help make sure that you were there, and I just checked in this morning and we have some risk reduction funds.

1075
01:58:03,720 --> 01:58:06,660
This is to me a risk reduction for our county.

1076
01:58:06,880 --> 01:58:08,200
We have some water resources.

1077
01:58:08,900 --> 01:58:12,100
I don't think that there's any more funds in there, but there could be.

1078
01:58:12,260 --> 01:58:16,520
We'll see at the end of the budget when we reconcile everything.

1079
01:58:16,520 --> 01:58:24,840
But I want to give it a time frame with the long-term plan, without having a huge impact on

1080
01:58:26,040 --> 01:58:32,600
the activities that we see and don't see it. And when I say I don't see, I live in a place where I get to see the lake every single day.

1081
01:58:33,600 --> 01:58:39,000
There is a lack of activity in our lake. And so, increasing it

1082
01:58:40,000 --> 01:58:41,720
reduces what we already lack.

1083
01:58:41,720 --> 01:58:50,540
It is, I have seen the difference between what was happening here in 2018, 2017, there are a lot of tournaments.

1084
01:58:51,140 --> 01:58:52,720
Every weekend basically has a tournament.

1085
01:58:52,960 --> 01:59:01,040
If you look at the official wildlife website, but the amount of folks that are coming on their own as tourists to put their boats in the lake.

1086
01:59:01,180 --> 01:59:09,300
Maybe it's just South Lake, but it is even on what you would think would be the height of our lake activities.

1087
01:59:09,840 --> 01:59:17,720
Memorial Day weekend, Fourth of July, there's just a reduction in activity and

1088
01:59:17,720 --> 01:59:22,580
comparison to what I used to see a long time ago. And so to to increase the

1089
01:59:22,580 --> 01:59:26,780
number is not helping to bring more people here. I don't know that it will have

1090
01:59:26,780 --> 01:59:33,760
a huge impact. $60 a month though is a hard pill to swallow. But I want to be

1091
01:59:33,760 --> 01:59:39,800
kind on wanting to get our locals to dip their boats in the lake,

1092
01:59:40,700 --> 01:59:45,700
our tourists to dip their boats in the lake, but also want to use a timeline for the long term.

1093
01:59:45,880 --> 01:59:50,640
And so that's what I'm looking at is if we can help with cannabis money that we have,

1094
01:59:51,320 --> 01:59:55,720
keep going after the grants, do a slight increase in a slight change for the events,

1095
01:59:55,800 --> 01:59:59,360
and let's see where we are, and just keep pushing for those decons.

1096
01:59:59,360 --> 01:59:59,980
because once we have been

1097
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:06,880
It's really just more of a maintenance and operation of the decons, not ramp monitors specifically,

1098
02:00:07,320 --> 02:00:11,300
because everyone should be going through those stations. I'll stop there.

1099
02:00:13,600 --> 02:00:14,280
Vice chair.

1100
02:00:14,860 --> 02:00:20,080
When was the $20 fee originated in what year was that?

1101
02:00:22,520 --> 02:00:25,660
I believe that was like about five years ago or so.

1102
02:00:25,740 --> 02:00:27,180
What was it before that?

1103
02:00:27,240 --> 02:00:29,100
It was much longer ago.

1104
02:00:30,020 --> 02:00:30,240
Yeah.

1105
02:00:30,240 --> 02:00:31,560
I think it was a long time with it.

1106
02:00:31,620 --> 02:00:33,520
Probably comments not open right now hang on.

1107
02:00:33,760 --> 02:00:35,820
I don't remember when it was less than $20.

1108
02:00:37,800 --> 02:00:42,580
I think it started at $20 was what we started at.

1109
02:00:43,680 --> 02:00:45,800
I'm aware of it.

1110
02:00:45,800 --> 02:00:48,020
But it has been a long time.

1111
02:00:48,240 --> 02:00:48,940
It hasn't changed.

1112
02:00:48,940 --> 02:00:50,300
More since the original $20.

1113
02:00:50,320 --> 02:00:51,080
Your microphone?

1114
02:00:52,660 --> 02:00:52,920
Sorry.

1115
02:00:53,260 --> 02:01:00,180
It hasn't changed from the $20 that we started with that I know of.

1116
02:01:00,180 --> 02:01:03,500
had there has been no increases since that.

1117
02:01:03,540 --> 02:01:03,780
Okay.

1118
02:01:03,980 --> 02:01:06,120
Well maybe in public comment we'll learn.

1119
02:01:06,780 --> 02:01:07,640
I think you the right.

1120
02:01:07,780 --> 02:01:11,060
My recollection is that it's.

1121
02:01:11,060 --> 02:01:14,860
I mean we started this like 16 years ago and it could have been that long.

1122
02:01:14,980 --> 02:01:16,920
Maybe it started a little less.

1123
02:01:17,040 --> 02:01:17,540
I don't know.

1124
02:01:17,980 --> 02:01:23,560
But I'm also concerned about the.

1125
02:01:24,340 --> 02:01:28,760
The increases because if we haven't increased a fee for 16 years.

1126
02:01:28,760 --> 02:01:43,920
We've been in this situation before with other fees throughout the county, and then we're getting these requests to raise fees that aren't gradual because we haven't kept up on it.

1127
02:01:44,360 --> 02:01:54,160
I would also like to see what it would look like to do more gradual fee increase, or we don't have sticker shock on that.

1128
02:01:55,320 --> 02:02:00,620
I don't know if anybody can answer questions about, well, what if I live in U.K. and

1129
02:02:00,620 --> 02:02:08,680
I come over here every single month, I've got to pay $720 a year, is there any consideration

1130
02:02:09,880 --> 02:02:15,260
where there could be more of a, maybe an annual fee, like it going to the National Park,

1131
02:02:15,300 --> 02:02:20,200
you pay, whatever you pay to go as many times as you want, I'm just throwing it out, I don't

1132
02:02:20,200 --> 02:02:20,500
Now,

1133
02:02:23,040 --> 02:02:27,980
I'm assuming the boat, if you're from out of county, you get inspected.

1134
02:02:28,140 --> 02:02:31,340
If you go home every time you come back anyway, right?

1135
02:02:31,940 --> 02:02:38,360
So if it was a, somebody that, because there may be people that come here every month from

1136
02:02:38,360 --> 02:02:41,140
nearby counties, I don't know for sure.

1137
02:02:43,480 --> 02:02:53,620
I don't have a problem with the $50 application fee because that's for doing a tournament or something and we have fees for use of other facilities.

1138
02:02:54,920 --> 02:03:06,620
I am concerned about if somebody had to pay $7,000 for dogs, is that going to prevent a tournament from wanting to come to this lake?

1139
02:03:06,620 --> 02:03:09,420
are they going to say, we're not going to pay 7 grand.

1140
02:03:10,420 --> 02:03:11,780
We can go to another lake.

1141
02:03:13,160 --> 02:03:13,560
I don't know.

1142
02:03:13,620 --> 02:03:16,020
I think that's a consideration too.

1143
02:03:24,410 --> 02:03:26,650
And then I just have questions about will it?

1144
02:03:26,650 --> 02:03:31,210
A couple of things will the fees impact tourism?

1145
02:03:31,450 --> 02:03:34,810
Will they lead to less people wanting to use the lake?

1146
02:03:34,930 --> 02:03:40,790
And then also questions about whether we've done any research, what

1147
02:03:40,790 --> 02:03:47,510
And what does a fee increase have, how does that affect if people are going to try to avoid

1148
02:03:47,510 --> 02:03:51,690
the law and not get increases?

1149
02:03:51,710 --> 02:03:53,690
I think we have to do something.

1150
02:03:53,910 --> 02:04:00,930
I mean, we've typically gotten a grant, but it's only for less than 500,000.

1151
02:04:01,750 --> 02:04:06,370
And there was a one year we didn't get one, and then this year we did get it again, but not

1152
02:04:06,370 --> 02:04:07,190
for the whole amount.

1153
02:04:07,190 --> 02:04:13,650
So we stopped to supplement general fund and if all of a sudden we get to next year our

1154
02:04:13,650 --> 02:04:21,830
budget is not going to miraculously get better in just 12 months and we don't have a grant.

1155
02:04:21,870 --> 02:04:26,990
We're not going to have a half a million dollars without severely cutting another county

1156
02:04:26,990 --> 02:04:31,950
program to be able to fund the rent monitors so they could be at risk.

1157
02:04:32,270 --> 02:04:37,090
So I'm not saying we shouldn't be looking at doing something because it's a critical program

1158
02:04:37,090 --> 02:04:44,250
and we all know that, but just have concerns and more questions and would like to see some

1159
02:04:44,250 --> 02:04:50,190
more options potentially, but I do want to hear from the public too, and we know we're

1160
02:04:50,190 --> 02:04:52,770
going to have a firm on a public comment today.

1161
02:04:53,690 --> 02:04:55,670
So do you have another comment before we...

1162
02:04:55,670 --> 02:04:56,750
Yeah, just another.

1163
02:04:56,750 --> 02:04:59,970
And I know it's kind of like throwing a hell Mary here, but

1164
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:08,540
Because I know the last conversation that we had with Yolo County Flood Control did not exactly create a new flow of revenue.

1165
02:05:09,140 --> 02:05:15,140
They very much care about this, but they very much don't want to provide any resources to make this happen.

1166
02:05:15,180 --> 02:05:21,960
Once the last time we had a conversation, you don't have to answer the question, but I think we need to have another conversation.

1167
02:05:21,960 --> 02:05:28,300
I think the Board of Supervisors, there is a 2 by 2, I don't know, that's the name of the committee.

1168
02:05:29,540 --> 02:05:34,420
The 2 Supervisors that are on there, myself included, should be a part of that conversation.

1169
02:05:35,060 --> 02:05:39,740
And I don't want to say that the water districts should be pitching in, but they should definitely be partners,

1170
02:05:40,320 --> 02:05:47,700
because they will suffer if this program fails to prohibit muscles from coming in.

1171
02:05:47,700 --> 02:05:52,300
I'm sure they don't want to hear about we want something from you, but they should be partners

1172
02:05:52,700 --> 02:05:57,640
in the program in the sense of how do we work together to have a louder voice at the state

1173
02:05:57,640 --> 02:06:02,840
level to get what we need and I know that there's some movement on the golden muscle, but it

1174
02:06:02,840 --> 02:06:08,180
looks more like it is a illegal to move a golden muscle rather than working to put out some

1175
02:06:08,180 --> 02:06:12,520
money from the state to help prohibit the golden muscle for moving, but there seems to be some

1176
02:06:12,520 --> 02:06:15,360
actions happening at the state level. So just last comments.

1177
02:06:16,600 --> 02:06:21,400
All right. Did you want to respond director? Yeah, so I think just to address like some of the

1178
02:06:21,400 --> 02:06:26,420
concern, so I think the residents like who are visiting here monthly, like it seems like

1179
02:06:26,420 --> 02:06:31,120
probably the cost going to add up for them, and we can definitely look into some kind of like

1180
02:06:31,120 --> 02:06:36,180
annual pass for them, but I will probably assume that the number of those types of people are fairly

1181
02:06:36,180 --> 02:06:42,860
low in like out of those 12,000 stickers, which has been sold overall, but the other option for them,

1182
02:06:42,860 --> 02:06:49,540
like somebody coming here monthly is like if their boat is registered in Lake County, that they will count as a local.

1183
02:06:50,480 --> 02:06:55,660
So they will they can still like if their boat get registered here and they are visiting here every month.

1184
02:06:55,940 --> 02:07:01,680
Probably it will make more sense that they register it here. So in that sense they have to pay only $60 a year.

1185
02:07:02,080 --> 02:07:05,360
Except that if you didn't have an address here you wouldn't be able to register.

1186
02:07:05,900 --> 02:07:12,580
Yeah. So that's that's something but we can work out something like if the boat that's something a direction from the boat saying.

1187
02:07:12,580 --> 02:07:21,780
Maybe instead of going all the way to the 700, we can cap it up to 400, 400 something so it doesn't get like extremely high on that side.

1188
02:07:22,600 --> 02:07:26,840
I think for the doc costs for the two nomenes.

1189
02:07:27,940 --> 02:07:30,140
So these two nomenes are the pretty last two nomenes.

1190
02:07:30,360 --> 02:07:36,040
So if they have more than 100 participant and you look into per boat costs,

1191
02:07:36,620 --> 02:07:40,420
it is like substantially lower, like if you divide it by the number of participants.

1192
02:07:40,420 --> 02:07:46,760
And also I think the reason we had that high cost like 7 grand for one of the event is because

1193
02:07:46,760 --> 02:07:52,620
right now we don't charge anything so they can do like multiple launches over multiple sites

1194
02:07:52,620 --> 02:07:55,660
and every site needs a dock especially for a larger event.

1195
02:07:56,320 --> 02:08:01,980
But when and that's the reason we are trying to put this permit together so we can restrict to the number of location.

1196
02:08:02,640 --> 02:08:08,540
So if they put only two location compared to like 4, they might cut down their cost in half.

1197
02:08:08,540 --> 02:08:14,880
so instead of 7000 it would be only 3500 or 3000. So there are ways to around it but right now

1198
02:08:15,360 --> 02:08:20,640
we have no way to control like where we will permit or where we will allow for them to launch

1199
02:08:20,640 --> 02:08:28,360
because we don't have any permit and and as you saw on the state funding right I think to be more

1200
02:08:28,360 --> 02:08:34,340
hopeful from the state that we will get more grant would be would won't be a good idea because

1201
02:08:34,340 --> 02:08:44,300
If you saw that graph, if you can pull up that graph, state funding is continuously going down and if the trend continues, it would be even lower in coming years.

1202
02:08:44,760 --> 02:08:54,340
That that's kind of really upset from the state, but if the risk is going up, normally you will assume the state puts more funding towards it, but it seems like they are dragging their feet and

1203
02:08:54,340 --> 02:09:04,340
To be hopeful that in future we will have more funding that doesn't give me much hope and I look over the last 10 years of trend because it is continuously going down.

1204
02:09:06,040 --> 02:09:16,460
And as far as the county fund is concerned like I mean at the end of the day where we are trying to do is like to come up with the funds we need in order to run our program at a minimal cost because.

1205
02:09:16,460 --> 02:09:27,600
Right now, even at $60 accounts for like $233,000 is still grand dependent, which is reasonable to assume compared to our history of what we have gotten in the past.

1206
02:09:27,940 --> 02:09:35,420
But if we have fund from other sources, we can definitely look into other discounting it or phasing it out to do these $60.

1207
02:09:35,900 --> 02:09:42,720
But at this point, I think considering what we have, what we need and those cost are calculated for the next fiscal year.

1208
02:09:42,720 --> 02:09:49,200
So this piece is not for this year, it would be applied from July, July, July 27th.

1209
02:09:49,560 --> 02:09:56,200
So there is some time for people to know about it, plan around it or get their comments

1210
02:09:56,200 --> 02:09:59,880
back to us like if we feel like it is kind of totally

1211
02:10:11,220 --> 02:10:23,200
Any other questions are all open public? Yeah, public comment. If first person can come up, we'll start in the room and you'll state your name and you'll have three minutes.

1212
02:10:25,890 --> 02:10:31,950
Matthew St. Clair, I'm the director of the Curly Coast Glenhaven Catfish Durby and your catfish Durby.

1213
02:10:32,190 --> 02:10:37,750
The board has raised, thank you for the board for bringing this and these guys together.

1214
02:10:37,850 --> 02:10:40,630
This is something we absolutely have to stay on top of.

1215
02:10:41,030 --> 02:10:45,790
The board raised most of the questions and concerns I had.

1216
02:10:47,570 --> 02:10:54,070
2008 is when the quagma muscle program started, started at $20, it's been $20 the entire time.

1217
02:10:54,070 --> 02:11:06,130
I have concerns about so drastic and increased to the sticker cost, sticker shock, certainly Bruno, Representative Owen, brought up good points on this.

1218
02:11:08,110 --> 02:11:15,870
It's not luck that the muscles haven't moved around. Our lake has conditions that are not effective to muscles.

1219
02:11:15,870 --> 02:11:18,950
One of the big concerns is oxygen.

1220
02:11:19,230 --> 02:11:20,430
Our lake drops an oxygen.

1221
02:11:21,030 --> 02:11:23,250
We have an oxygenation project happening,

1222
02:11:23,630 --> 02:11:24,630
going to start next year.

1223
02:11:24,870 --> 02:11:26,610
Muscle is will probably be a big problem,

1224
02:11:26,710 --> 02:11:27,650
starting next year.

1225
02:11:27,890 --> 02:11:30,650
Getting on top of this is absolutely a good thing.

1226
02:11:32,630 --> 02:11:33,910
$50 for a tournament.

1227
02:11:34,150 --> 02:11:36,930
I think even matching what Fish and Wildlife

1228
02:11:36,930 --> 02:11:39,230
says is the tournament wouldn't affect our tournament.

1229
02:11:39,470 --> 02:11:40,890
You know, we're the largest tournament on the lake.

1230
02:11:41,610 --> 02:11:43,850
So bearing that kind of cost would be fine.

1231
02:11:43,850 --> 02:11:48,850
A $3,000 cost for dogs would definitely impact our tournament.

1232
02:11:49,130 --> 02:11:54,890
I don't know what we would do, but we would have to do something to mitigate that, you know.

1233
02:11:55,030 --> 02:11:58,190
Even a tournament of our size, that would be very hurtful.

1234
02:11:58,630 --> 02:12:03,710
I've had a wonderful time working with Esteban since he's been on this group since I think January.

1235
02:12:04,190 --> 02:12:07,490
I'm looking forward to continuing to work with you guys. Thank you much.

1236
02:12:08,790 --> 02:12:11,270
Thank you, sir. Next in the room.

1237
02:12:17,570 --> 02:12:23,930
Good morning board and good morning water resources staff. Thank you. Today for this presentation. My name is Angela to pump down.

1238
02:12:24,290 --> 02:12:31,550
Executive Dr. Lake County land trust and we have shoreline properties about 500 acres along the shoreline or the tributaries right off the lake around clear lake.

1239
02:12:32,170 --> 02:12:36,850
So we do understand and have a direct interest in protecting clear lake from invasive muscles.

1240
02:12:37,630 --> 02:12:43,070
Personally, I've worked in aquatic sciences for about 20 years, 10 years of that was in the Upper Midwest on the Great Lakes.

1241
02:12:44,750 --> 02:12:50,490
So I do understand working with of lakes that have been infected by invasive muscles.

1242
02:12:51,070 --> 02:12:53,690
I'm also a lake county certified tourism ambassador.

1243
02:12:54,530 --> 02:12:58,990
So I fully understand both the ecological and economic impact of muscle prevention

1244
02:12:58,990 --> 02:13:03,010
on all of lake county water bodies in the communities that depend on them.

1245
02:13:03,630 --> 02:13:06,610
I really just wanted to shout out for the ramp monitors and the businesses.

1246
02:13:06,990 --> 02:13:10,870
There's about 30 small mom and pop businesses around the lake to participate in this program.

1247
02:13:11,590 --> 02:13:15,290
And the RAM monitors and the businesses are the ones that are going to get the face of the

1248
02:13:15,290 --> 02:13:18,990
backlash of this program if it goes out and rolls out without the proper outreach and

1249
02:13:18,990 --> 02:13:22,030
education and support and I didn't see that in the presentation.

1250
02:13:23,470 --> 02:13:26,570
The RAM monitors, you know, this is like a part-time retirement job for them.

1251
02:13:26,810 --> 02:13:27,790
They work really hard.

1252
02:13:27,950 --> 02:13:31,570
They are sometimes the first and last faces that people went and see when they visit

1253
02:13:31,570 --> 02:13:32,410
clear lake.

1254
02:13:32,810 --> 02:13:36,050
And so I just like to see a little more support for them when this program rolls out

1255
02:13:36,050 --> 02:13:37,130
if it does.

1256
02:13:38,530 --> 02:13:43,750
I also wanted to see some more consultation, I guess, from the community, both the businesses

1257
02:13:43,750 --> 02:13:48,290
that participate and the ramp monitors and those that are on the lake for the development

1258
02:13:48,290 --> 02:13:53,530
of this program and that was part of the original development of this program back in 2005

1259
02:13:53,530 --> 02:13:57,530
to 2008 when the sticker fee prevention program was designed.

1260
02:13:57,650 --> 02:14:02,690
There was a lot of advisory committees and task force and outreach to the community to get

1261
02:14:02,690 --> 02:14:10,150
feedback on what is an acceptable and doable solution to be able to prevent invasive muscles

1262
02:14:10,150 --> 02:14:13,850
from getting into clear lake. And I would like to see that with something so major as this.

1263
02:14:14,730 --> 02:14:20,490
This program was designed to be easy. People can get their boat inspected or secured and get on the

1264
02:14:20,490 --> 02:14:26,870
lake as quick as possible. Quick and affordable. So participation is very likely. If you change

1265
02:14:26,870 --> 02:14:31,990
one of those pillars, make it not affordable and make it very difficult. Then you change the dynamic

1266
02:14:31,990 --> 02:14:37,150
the program and you're going to increase that risk of non-participation and one of the things we learn

1267
02:14:37,150 --> 02:14:42,310
as certified tourism ambassadors, there's 749 access points and clear lake. Some of them,

1268
02:14:42,530 --> 02:14:47,590
there's two, right down, you drive down right here on Lake Short. I have nobody standing there,

1269
02:14:47,610 --> 02:14:52,990
somebody can launch their boat. So if anybody is not wanting to participate in the program because

1270
02:14:52,990 --> 02:14:57,890
one of the pillars is change of easy affordable and quick, then you increase the risk of access

1271
02:14:57,890 --> 02:14:59,970
some of those other points. So I didn't see any of that take-

1272
02:15:01,980 --> 02:15:21,780
I'm not against the fee increases. It was something when I first started and I worked at water resources that I thought of. We also thought about special events. Increases. It's just the community, both visiting community, sports economy and the local community should not solely bear the burden of this.

1273
02:15:21,920 --> 02:15:22,760
That was your time.

1274
02:15:23,360 --> 02:15:24,320
Okay. Thank you very much.

1275
02:15:24,320 --> 02:15:26,520
Thank you. Next in the room.

1276
02:15:30,320 --> 02:15:30,820
Good morning board.

1277
02:15:31,220 --> 02:15:32,340
Morning. Scott Delion.

1278
02:15:33,200 --> 02:15:36,960
For background on the former Water Resources and Public Works Director,

1279
02:15:37,540 --> 02:15:41,280
serving that role from 2010 till I retired in 2024.

1280
02:15:41,760 --> 02:15:45,840
I appreciate the opportunity and the opportunity for to review this.

1281
02:15:46,300 --> 02:15:48,000
You know, I had a lot of concerns.

1282
02:15:48,340 --> 02:15:50,660
Some things have come to light.

1283
02:15:50,820 --> 02:15:55,540
I've been watching the presentation and talking with Angela and Greg and

1284
02:15:55,540 --> 02:16:01,340
I think we're underestimating the backlash that's going to come from this.

1285
02:16:01,900 --> 02:16:08,760
I too, I agree with everything that Angela just said with respect to reaching out to the folks.

1286
02:16:09,500 --> 02:16:21,480
Your vendors are the front line of this and I'm hoping if vendors haven't been contacted that they will because this is a very drastic change.

1287
02:16:24,660 --> 02:16:30,740
There's, you know, the state started that grant program while I was the director and thanks

1288
02:16:30,740 --> 02:16:37,700
to the efforts from Angela, we were successful in getting grant funds every year that they

1289
02:16:37,700 --> 02:16:38,480
were made available.

1290
02:16:39,340 --> 02:16:44,600
I think, clearly, it is, and specifically, Lake County is in a unique position that we're

1291
02:16:44,600 --> 02:16:48,040
one of the few that is eligible for those funds.

1292
02:16:48,040 --> 02:16:56,760
I recognize that they are competitive but we've received grant funds every year, but one.

1293
02:16:57,420 --> 02:17:04,740
So to say that the grant funds fluctuate and it seems a little stretch to me.

1294
02:17:04,740 --> 02:17:08,980
I think that the grant funds are a little more available than what we're planning.

1295
02:17:10,480 --> 02:17:16,220
I also am a voter, I own two votes, so I'm subject to this same sticker fees.

1296
02:17:16,220 --> 02:17:19,900
And I also agree that I don't really have a problem with an increase.

1297
02:17:20,280 --> 02:17:27,180
I do have a problem with a 300% increase, so I'd like to see some additional thought given

1298
02:17:27,180 --> 02:17:34,440
to how to lessen that impact and coordinate more with our vendors.

1299
02:17:35,560 --> 02:17:41,460
Last thing in the last minute, special event, I'm really on the fence about the special event.

1300
02:17:44,060 --> 02:17:53,680
I'd like to see the department work with the state on scheduling and where the events are launching

1301
02:17:53,680 --> 02:17:56,020
to help coordinate their inspections.

1302
02:17:57,020 --> 02:17:58,700
That's available to them.

1303
02:17:59,880 --> 02:18:09,280
I think you're really going to impact the tournament folks with passing through Deacon cost to anglers.

1304
02:18:10,140 --> 02:18:16,040
I'm an organization that has a boat that we rent, that's a release boat.

1305
02:18:16,200 --> 02:18:19,140
We rent it to anglers or tournament directors.

1306
02:18:19,560 --> 02:18:25,360
They won't pay $200 to rent the boat for a day to make sure that the fish survive and

1307
02:18:25,360 --> 02:18:29,120
that they're cared for after they're weighed and returned to the lake.

1308
02:18:29,860 --> 02:18:34,260
They're going to have a problem with paying substantial decon fees.

1309
02:18:35,080 --> 02:18:35,400
Thank you.

1310
02:18:35,620 --> 02:18:36,120
Thank you.

1311
02:18:37,480 --> 02:18:39,060
Next in the room.

1312
02:18:48,380 --> 02:18:52,560
Good morning board, Rasmussen numbers of the board, Greg Juicy, University of California

1313
02:18:52,560 --> 02:18:57,520
Emeritus, and current member of your Lake County Fish and Wildlife Advisory Committee.

1314
02:18:57,680 --> 02:19:00,040
I think I'm starting my 30th year on that committee.

1315
02:19:00,680 --> 02:19:02,040
I do it for the money in the glory.

1316
02:19:03,640 --> 02:19:08,680
And I was on the original task group that put this program together in 2008.

1317
02:19:08,800 --> 02:19:13,460
I still have barely the scars from those discussions, but that program was never intended

1318
02:19:13,460 --> 02:19:14,440
to be a cash cow.

1319
02:19:14,440 --> 02:19:21,000
It was always intended to serve as leverage to go out and find other resources to apply through

1320
02:19:21,000 --> 02:19:21,500
the state.

1321
02:19:21,680 --> 02:19:23,400
We knew these other programs were coming.

1322
02:19:24,280 --> 02:19:27,500
I just quickly want to think, you know, this is a water quality issue.

1323
02:19:28,340 --> 02:19:30,760
I'm a member of the North Coast Water Quality Board.

1324
02:19:31,200 --> 02:19:33,240
You're in Region 5, I've been Region 1.

1325
02:19:33,440 --> 02:19:37,220
Those water quality boards are not only regulatory bodies, they're funding bodies.

1326
02:19:37,520 --> 02:19:42,280
I would ask that you go and talk to them about the beneficial use impacts of plugins,

1327
02:19:42,280 --> 02:19:48,780
zebra muscles on water quality and see if they have monies to do some of your capital improvements.

1328
02:19:49,280 --> 02:19:54,040
The Blue Ribbon Committee is dealing with dealing with water quality issues.

1329
02:19:54,800 --> 02:19:58,960
Again, specific targeted requests could find other sources of money.

1330
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:29,920
I know that, you know, I was an academic. I chased dollars for 30 years. It's a lot of work. It's a lot of effort. But it can't pay off. The one, the one, the one lying drawn in the sand that we cannot cross. We cannot lose the business community. This will cause them to bolt. If we lose the business community support because they sell most of these stickers. If we lose their support, we lose the

1331
02:20:29,920 --> 02:20:38,960
It's that simple. We have to work with them. We have to make sure that they're on board and what they think is reasonable and back in 2008

1332
02:20:38,960 --> 02:20:46,640
We had so many meetings. We had so many discussions bringing people along and as we know and you're absolutely right

1333
02:20:46,640 --> 02:20:47,560
We've been lucky

1334
02:20:47,560 --> 02:20:51,060
The reason we've been lucky is because it's affordable

1335
02:20:51,060 --> 02:20:54,300
Right if we scare people away with too much money

1336
02:20:54,840 --> 02:21:01,220
It's it's just we're gonna lose it. We're gonna lose them all of a sudden. We're gonna see a lot of residents stickers get sold

1337
02:21:01,220 --> 02:21:05,780
Right because people come from UK a weekly over here, and yeah, it's a $60

1338
02:21:05,780 --> 02:21:11,300
Pop, but that adds up quick and they're gonna be looking well my boat's no dirtier than these boats here

1339
02:21:11,300 --> 02:21:15,700
Because I don't go anywhere else. I come to Clear Lake. So those are the kind of discussions that need to

1340
02:21:16,040 --> 02:21:20,140
Need to happen in our partners in this the business community the fishing community

1341
02:21:20,680 --> 02:21:24,280
They're the foundation of what's made this work. This is a

1342
02:21:25,180 --> 02:21:31,120
This is based on people's honesty and doing the right thing and that's why we've been

1343
02:21:31,120 --> 02:21:33,820
successful because people know we're doing the right thing.

1344
02:21:34,160 --> 02:21:37,920
The ramp monitors, I don't know where you find these people, they're angels, they are

1345
02:21:37,920 --> 02:21:38,500
amazing.

1346
02:21:38,900 --> 02:21:42,340
They'll talk to your office, like guys, I want to go fishing, but 20 minutes later I'm still

1347
02:21:42,340 --> 02:21:47,580
talking to them, but they are the front lines and they make it work and the business

1348
02:21:47,580 --> 02:21:48,380
is make it work.

1349
02:21:48,840 --> 02:21:53,400
That's where we've got to think a lot of these ideas are great, but we're trying to take

1350
02:21:53,400 --> 02:21:57,800
this program. Hang on one second. That was your three, but we have a question for you.

1351
02:21:58,060 --> 02:22:04,780
Yes, ma'am. Well, thank you for all of your years helping out in this arena. I'm just curious

1352
02:22:05,400 --> 02:22:09,440
in the original task force. How was that set up?

1353
02:22:12,290 --> 02:22:15,850
Water resources, fish and game,

1354
02:22:15,990 --> 02:22:25,010
fish and wildlife. The RCDs were involved. I'm sure we had Parks and Rec because, you know,

1355
02:22:25,010 --> 02:22:31,070
at least the county public boat ramps are under park and wreck.

1356
02:22:32,110 --> 02:22:37,530
We must have had discussions with the city of Clear Lake and Lakeport, because that's

1357
02:22:37,530 --> 02:22:42,370
where the big tournaments, and now with the casino, the big tournaments go out of Redbud,

1358
02:22:42,470 --> 02:22:46,150
they go out of 5th Street, they go out of the casino, right?

1359
02:22:46,750 --> 02:22:51,770
And they have to, those big tournaments all have to go out of the central localized place, because

1360
02:22:51,770 --> 02:22:53,130
they all have live well checks.

1361
02:22:53,330 --> 02:22:55,010
I want to make sure nobody's bringing fish in

1362
02:22:55,010 --> 02:22:57,050
that they've caught somewhere else and weigh them.

1363
02:22:57,370 --> 02:23:00,230
So they have to start in a central location.

1364
02:23:01,790 --> 02:23:04,050
And then members of the fishing community,

1365
02:23:04,130 --> 02:23:10,450
members of the bath club, the various bait shops.

1366
02:23:11,130 --> 02:23:12,210
It was an effort.

1367
02:23:13,170 --> 02:23:14,190
How long did it take?

1368
02:23:17,240 --> 02:23:18,040
It took a while.

1369
02:23:19,440 --> 02:23:20,180
It took a while.

1370
02:23:20,300 --> 02:23:20,940
It took an effort.

1371
02:23:20,940 --> 02:23:28,900
it was new. The whole idea of invasive muscles scared everyone to death. We knew what the threat

1372
02:23:28,900 --> 02:23:34,600
was, what we weren't sure how to manage the risk. We knew that different vessels posed

1373
02:23:34,600 --> 02:23:40,920
different threats. Wakeboard boats that come from Lake Mead, you know, that have these balists,

1374
02:23:41,260 --> 02:23:50,920
that they suck water in to weigh the boat down. Those are those are a big risk. We knew that

1375
02:23:50,920 --> 02:24:01,220
to better understand risk factors associated, not only with where folks were coming from, but also the type of watercraft that they're using.

1376
02:24:01,680 --> 02:24:08,000
And even today, the number, we have a hundred, we have a hundred tournaments a year on Clear Lake for competitive fishing.

1377
02:24:09,140 --> 02:24:17,660
In the economic profile I published in 2016, back then we're looking between five and six thousand competitive anglers a year coming on the lake.

1378
02:24:17,660 --> 02:24:23,920
What's changed in the last five, seven years is the number of kayak tournaments that are coming

1379
02:24:23,920 --> 02:24:24,340
on.

1380
02:24:24,540 --> 02:24:28,740
These kayaks are incredible vessels, and they're getting moved around.

1381
02:24:28,940 --> 02:24:33,540
They're still relatively low-risk, but they're not the little, little kayak that maybe

1382
02:24:33,540 --> 02:24:34,660
people think of.

1383
02:24:35,000 --> 02:24:40,740
They have the potential of carrying some water from one spot to another, because it's a big

1384
02:24:40,740 --> 02:24:40,980
deal.

1385
02:24:41,180 --> 02:24:43,720
Now, kayak tournaments are a big deal, and people are moving around.

1386
02:24:44,000 --> 02:24:45,920
They're going to the delta, and they're going here, and they're going to fall.

1387
02:24:45,920 --> 02:24:53,120
So, again, I think we need to look at, you know, break down again with different kinds of boats and vessels that are being used.

1388
02:24:53,520 --> 02:24:54,940
Who's bringing in jet skis?

1389
02:24:56,760 --> 02:24:59,980
There's a lot of, there's a lot of sail boats and marinas that,

1390
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:29,980
Never leave the lake, but they're not paying their muscle stickers because the stickers are 5, 6, 7 years old, right? And by law, they're supposed to have an updated sticker if they're on the water. You know, go anywhere, but by law, to meet the intent of the law, they should be upgrading their stickers every year. So, not a lot of money, but there's a few holes. And again, I think the focus, if the focus is on muscle pertain, there's a lot of good ideas of what we could do. We could pay for this. If we had more money, I think the discussion has to

1391
02:25:29,980 --> 02:25:35,280
to be kept contained to what are we doing with a sticker program, the prevention program,

1392
02:25:35,640 --> 02:25:42,060
which is so huge, and keep our discussion focused on that, and what do we need, not

1393
02:25:42,060 --> 02:25:43,560
what do we want kind of approach?

1394
02:25:43,680 --> 02:25:44,240
What do we need?

1395
02:25:44,360 --> 02:25:50,640
We need to make the sticker program work, I think, and again we need to bring people along

1396
02:25:50,640 --> 02:25:56,040
because this has always been based on participation and partnerships with all the various

1397
02:25:56,040 --> 02:25:56,660
groups.

1398
02:25:57,400 --> 02:25:57,740
Thank you.

1399
02:25:58,440 --> 02:25:59,180
Thank you.

1400
02:25:59,180 --> 02:26:02,600
It would have anyone else in the room.

1401
02:26:18,010 --> 02:26:20,630
Good morning Mr. Chair, Tom Lysick.

1402
02:26:21,350 --> 02:26:24,190
I do want to thank the board for having the presentation.

1403
02:26:24,410 --> 02:26:25,850
I think it's a healthy discussion.

1404
02:26:27,230 --> 02:26:28,070
Just a couple things.

1405
02:26:28,370 --> 02:26:32,410
I think I'm going to respectfully disagree with one of the public comments that this lake

1406
02:26:32,410 --> 02:26:35,510
is not conducive to the quag up because of the low oxygen level.

1407
02:26:36,410 --> 02:26:41,290
Having lived to Michigan where you have zebra muscles and quag muscle is now.

1408
02:26:41,290 --> 02:26:46,170
They're actually very tolerant of hypoxia, low oxygen levels.

1409
02:26:46,450 --> 02:26:51,450
They also love this lake because it has high calcium levels, so it's a need for their shells.

1410
02:26:52,370 --> 02:26:56,530
And as we all know, it's like the lake's alive, it says it's a very high nutrient level.

1411
02:26:57,110 --> 02:27:03,710
All of those things make it the perfect location for innovative species like Quagga.

1412
02:27:03,730 --> 02:27:10,750
The fact that we don't have anything is to a lot of luck, as Mr. Sabatee mentioned,

1413
02:27:10,750 --> 02:27:15,650
but also an incredibly hard work of our scientists,

1414
02:27:15,910 --> 02:27:17,870
not only in the county, but the state, the federal government.

1415
02:27:19,170 --> 02:27:22,130
And also responsible voters and recreationists.

1416
02:27:23,920 --> 02:27:26,140
20 to 60, yeah, that's a tough bite.

1417
02:27:27,580 --> 02:27:30,200
But when you start talking about affordability,

1418
02:27:31,380 --> 02:27:34,320
I think it's important to look at affordability relative

1419
02:27:34,320 --> 02:27:37,600
to what, to what the other lakes are charging,

1420
02:27:38,460 --> 02:27:41,180
the $20 a day versus $20 a year.

1421
02:27:42,760 --> 02:27:51,800
So think about what we're asking the community to bite off, and I think there was a suggestion

1422
02:27:51,800 --> 02:27:53,060
to have in some sort of roadmap.

1423
02:27:54,060 --> 02:27:55,040
I think that's a good idea.

1424
02:27:55,260 --> 02:28:00,780
I don't think it would be palatable to go from 20 to 60 in one jump, but somehow some

1425
02:28:00,780 --> 02:28:02,340
way you're going to have to get to that point.

1426
02:28:04,020 --> 02:28:10,500
And we've already limited about past boards, not applying CPI, so this thing is not

1427
02:28:10,500 --> 02:28:15,500
change since 2008 and you keep complaining about those types of things.

1428
02:28:16,500 --> 02:28:18,020
Something does need to give.

1429
02:28:18,880 --> 02:28:27,160
I do personally, I don't both myself, but I do appreciate the recreation, what it brings

1430
02:28:27,160 --> 02:28:27,980
to the economy.

1431
02:28:31,380 --> 02:28:37,640
You need to do something $20 for years without an increase is not reasonable.

1432
02:28:37,640 --> 02:28:42,820
25, 30, 35 is probably the way to go, but you do need to get to a roadmap where you

1433
02:28:42,820 --> 02:28:43,680
are self-sustaining.

1434
02:28:44,640 --> 02:28:47,120
Because if you do get contamination, it's game over.

1435
02:28:47,560 --> 02:28:48,560
Thank you.

1436
02:28:48,760 --> 02:28:49,500
Thank you.

1437
02:28:49,800 --> 02:28:51,360
Anyone else in the room?

1438
02:29:00,910 --> 02:29:02,050
Roberta McIntyre.

1439
02:29:04,970 --> 02:29:10,550
18 years since the program was instituted, no fee increases.

1440
02:29:11,470 --> 02:29:19,570
through the chair. My advice or recommend would be that the CIOs office for those departments

1441
02:29:19,570 --> 02:29:28,290
that have fees make sure that they update their fees annually instead of waiting 18 years

1442
02:29:28,290 --> 02:29:33,390
to update them. This is not the first time we've seen this happen where there's a huge gap

1443
02:29:33,390 --> 02:29:38,150
and all of a sudden we have to increase fees to get caught up to make departments whole and then

1444
02:29:38,150 --> 02:29:46,610
have the sticker shock issue. So please let the department have no charge fees that they need

1445
02:29:46,610 --> 02:29:53,730
to budget time, bring those increases in fees with their annual budget and get them

1446
02:29:53,730 --> 02:29:59,750
to hear it annually. I have a jet ski. I have no problem spending.

1447
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:03,940
60 dollars a year for the permit.

1448
02:30:06,440 --> 02:30:13,320
An unfair comparison, probably with regard to events, I've done events at

1449
02:30:13,320 --> 02:30:20,880
snowman county fairgrounds two day events, where to use the five acre carnival in two buildings is

1450
02:30:20,880 --> 02:30:30,660
excess of $18,000. So comparing unfair comparison probably, but as you reach out to business

1451
02:30:30,660 --> 02:30:36,920
owners and event folks, you know, to land on what the market will bear there, keep in mind

1452
02:30:36,920 --> 02:30:42,500
that they need this natural resource to hold their events. It's beautiful. It's important.

1453
02:30:43,120 --> 02:30:47,380
They've been doing this for years for them to change that. It's going to be huge. So I would

1454
02:30:47,380 --> 02:30:51,640
explore working with those vendors to see what the market will bear, what a little tolerate.

1455
02:30:52,380 --> 02:31:00,020
And then the final thing that gets me to being comfortable with that $60 year fee is seeing

1456
02:31:00,020 --> 02:31:00,900
this presentation.

1457
02:31:01,980 --> 02:31:07,960
So regardless of the fee increase, if it's married to outreach and something like this

1458
02:31:07,960 --> 02:31:12,260
presentation, so people understand the need for this, why it's important.

1459
02:31:12,260 --> 02:31:18,460
people like myself will go holy cow, I have no problem spending $60 here, you know, if it's

1460
02:31:18,460 --> 02:31:20,620
going to prevent some of the stuff that I saw today.

1461
02:31:21,220 --> 02:31:22,000
Thank you.

1462
02:31:22,080 --> 02:31:22,960
Thank you.

1463
02:31:23,180 --> 02:31:28,240
Is there anyone else in the room, not seeing anyone move to online,

1464
02:31:34,260 --> 02:31:34,920
don't go ahead and

1465
02:31:34,920 --> 02:31:35,600
stay your whole name.

1466
02:31:35,720 --> 02:31:36,660
You'll have three minutes.

1467
02:31:37,460 --> 02:31:40,360
Good morning, Donna McWitz, Redbed, Audubon Society.

1468
02:31:40,900 --> 02:31:45,020
I just wanted to mention the Blue Ribbon Committee as the funding source and they'd be able

1469
02:31:45,020 --> 02:31:51,180
have been this project short-term to support the muscle program, water resources could update

1470
02:31:51,180 --> 02:31:57,380
the 2019 presentation and present the next socioeconomic and or technical committee, and all

1471
02:31:57,380 --> 02:32:02,780
the questions you've heard today can be included in the state required prevention plan update

1472
02:32:02,780 --> 02:32:06,700
that I think is about 10 years old. And thank you for listening.

1473
02:32:08,060 --> 02:32:08,660
Thank

1474
02:32:14,260 --> 02:32:17,860
you. Natasha, go ahead and state your whole name and you'll have three minutes.

1475
02:32:18,860 --> 02:32:19,920
Good morning.

1476
02:32:20,740 --> 02:32:21,660
I'm Natasha Sokoloski.

1477
02:32:22,120 --> 02:32:22,680
Thank you.

1478
02:32:23,100 --> 02:32:25,760
I just wanted to say this is a very interesting subject.

1479
02:32:26,920 --> 02:32:32,880
In general, and I am in support of the increase, especially because it does not take your

1480
02:32:32,880 --> 02:32:37,440
rocket scientists to notice a downward spiral on a trend.

1481
02:32:37,960 --> 02:32:40,440
It looks like that's exactly where it's going.

1482
02:32:42,220 --> 02:32:43,720
I've been here for 15 years.

1483
02:32:43,720 --> 02:32:50,960
And I've had so many people over the course of that time asked me if this lake is the lake you can come visit the swimming.

1484
02:32:52,420 --> 02:32:54,900
And that's been a very difficult answer.

1485
02:32:55,600 --> 02:33:00,500
Question for me to answer because in general I would say no.

1486
02:33:01,320 --> 02:33:06,680
And so this type of program would help facilitate keeping the lake clean.

1487
02:33:06,800 --> 02:33:09,960
So people think they're like, oh, I want to go to clear lakes.

1488
02:33:09,960 --> 02:33:12,660
It's just like they've powed super clean, super nice.

1489
02:33:12,820 --> 02:33:15,440
All the people there are keeping things in order

1490
02:33:16,080 --> 02:33:18,360
and making sure things aren't getting forgotten

1491
02:33:18,360 --> 02:33:19,400
on an annual basis.

1492
02:33:20,240 --> 02:33:24,460
So I support this and I thank for the future of tourism

1493
02:33:24,460 --> 02:33:26,960
in our county and this is absolutely necessary.

1494
02:33:27,220 --> 02:33:28,060
Thank you.

1495
02:33:28,220 --> 02:33:29,220
Thank you.

1496
02:33:33,860 --> 02:33:34,380
guest.

1497
02:33:35,100 --> 02:33:38,700
guest if you all state your name, you'll have three minutes.

1498
02:33:39,340 --> 02:33:41,500
Thank you, Mr. Chair, Angela, Emeral.

1499
02:33:41,500 --> 02:33:47,300
I had sent an email to your board earlier this morning, but it looked like it was blocked by IT.

1500
02:33:47,960 --> 02:33:53,380
And hopefully it sounds like it just got sent, but I'm going to go ahead and rattle off some of the things that were in it.

1501
02:33:53,520 --> 02:33:58,740
I would like for you guys to consider maintaining the current sticker price of $20 dollars to the Lake County residents,

1502
02:33:59,400 --> 02:34:02,800
increasing the fee for residents who already paid property taxes,

1503
02:34:03,280 --> 02:34:07,820
or experiencing rising rates of for water, sewer, and emergency services,

1504
02:34:07,820 --> 02:34:13,140
Well, as we likely deter residents from obtaining quagal muscle stickers, which would decrease

1505
02:34:13,140 --> 02:34:18,160
the revenue for water resources, residents with multiple water vessels such as boats,

1506
02:34:18,280 --> 02:34:23,380
just ski sail boats, and they have to choose which vessels they purchase stickers for.

1507
02:34:23,880 --> 02:34:27,900
Visitors do not pay property taxes, which contribute towards a general fund.

1508
02:34:28,400 --> 02:34:31,700
The sticker fee for non-resident should be increased to $60.

1509
02:34:32,620 --> 02:34:36,300
An appropriate decontamination fee should strongly be considered.

1510
02:34:36,300 --> 02:34:41,640
currently decontamination is free where as many other areas charge for decontamination.

1511
02:34:42,740 --> 02:34:47,500
Another consideration is using transient occupancy tax such as supervisor Owen mentioned

1512
02:34:47,500 --> 02:34:51,940
to offset several water resources expenses for ramp monitoring and enforcement.

1513
02:34:52,620 --> 02:34:58,520
We have a new generated from large events that's not paid directly to water resources aside from the sticker fee amount.

1514
02:35:00,000 --> 02:35:27,620
Orderly do bring in tourism revenue, that money is not always realized by the county. Many fees are paid, many fees and taxes paid by visitors, staying at lodging facilities within the city limits of clear lake and lake port, tend to stay within their respective cities and do not go towards the county fund. Additionally, there are other facilities with overnight accommodations that do not pay towards COT, such as some of the tribally owned resorts and hotels.

1515
02:35:27,620 --> 02:35:38,560
Regarding event permits, a tournament permit is required in other places such as Castayate Lake and Southern California to cover the county expenses for oversight.

1516
02:35:39,360 --> 02:35:50,880
Lake County should strongly consider implementing a similar policy as suggested here today, perhaps with a reduced fee for locally run tournaments such as a cabbage derby put on by Kloba.

1517
02:35:51,540 --> 02:35:56,860
With the reputation of clearly as the vast capital, I do not feel that this fee increase

1518
02:35:56,860 --> 02:36:00,160
would deter tournaments from continuing to frequent clear lake.

1519
02:36:00,700 --> 02:36:05,280
There are several groups advertising fishing events on clear lake in the last few years,

1520
02:36:05,620 --> 02:36:09,380
which is increasing the number of people learning about the fishing opportunities in

1521
02:36:09,380 --> 02:36:11,360
Lake County and exploring the area.

1522
02:36:12,000 --> 02:36:13,460
Thank you for your time and consideration.

1523
02:36:14,280 --> 02:36:14,760
Thank you.

1524
02:36:17,060 --> 02:36:25,520
know their hands I'll close public comment and bring it back to the board. We'll start with Vice Chair.

1525
02:36:26,280 --> 02:36:31,760
Well, I want to thank staff. This came up during budget hearings and this is a pretty quick turnaround

1526
02:36:32,380 --> 02:36:38,660
to respond to the fact that we had to support this program with a lot of general fund this year.

1527
02:36:38,780 --> 02:36:45,580
And we know that that's going to that is the finite resource and it's going to be more limited as we go forward in the next few years.

1528
02:36:46,680 --> 02:36:54,100
I think that we do need to do that, reach though with our partners and see if we can pull

1529
02:36:54,100 --> 02:37:03,360
together a task force like that to analyze how we get up to a fair array.

1530
02:37:03,620 --> 02:37:09,600
We obviously need to increase and I think that we're going to need to step it up year

1531
02:37:09,600 --> 02:37:16,180
year, we talked about maybe a three year plan or something but I don't want as Angela brought

1532
02:37:16,180 --> 02:37:21,800
up to backlash to hit the people that are doing the most important work and interfacing

1533
02:37:21,800 --> 02:37:27,620
with the public and I think that's where we would see it and we need to protect them from

1534
02:37:27,620 --> 02:37:34,880
that. So having a really coordinated strategy with lots of input from our stakeholders is where

1535
02:37:34,880 --> 02:37:41,800
like to start and then set that step-deb. We could start this year with an increase and then I don't

1536
02:37:41,800 --> 02:37:46,540
know if it's going to be five or ten year, ten dollars a year or something like that so that we

1537
02:37:46,540 --> 02:37:53,900
do get to a place where it is more sustainable. The funding is less and less year over year we know that.

1538
02:37:55,160 --> 02:38:04,240
And I do think that people that use the need to pay a fair share but we also want to make sure

1539
02:38:04,240 --> 02:38:09,600
that we're in that vein where people will stay compliant.

1540
02:38:10,060 --> 02:38:13,200
And that is going to be a difficult balance that for us to find.

1541
02:38:13,200 --> 02:38:15,460
I don't think it's a decision that we can make here today.

1542
02:38:15,500 --> 02:38:18,480
I think that's really going to come from a lot of conversations

1543
02:38:19,480 --> 02:38:20,520
with our stakeholders.

1544
02:38:21,840 --> 02:38:22,420
Thank you.

1545
02:38:22,440 --> 02:38:23,640
Supervisor Sabatee.

1546
02:38:27,630 --> 02:38:30,470
Trying to pivot a little bit with what I just heard.

1547
02:38:30,470 --> 02:38:43,330
I think that's not a bad idea to have the kind of a task force type of opportunity to really get the feedback from all the partners, have a conversation, make sure they're ready.

1548
02:38:45,210 --> 02:38:54,330
I think that it's pretty obvious that if something was $20 in 2008 that the value of that $20 is no longer the same today.

1549
02:38:54,330 --> 02:39:10,490
So I am very comfortable with saying, not like approved as in its final, but let's move forward with thinking of at least $25 for July 27, because again, you've stated that this is not for this year.

1550
02:39:10,490 --> 02:39:18,050
This is for the following fiscal year and in preparation for that you want to know what that cost will be so that you can do the outreach that you need.

1551
02:39:18,050 --> 02:39:20,550
I'm ready for that.

1552
02:39:20,910 --> 02:39:28,230
I hear loud and clear and I appreciate the gentleman from the Catfish Derby mentioning that

1553
02:39:28,230 --> 02:39:34,770
the $82 that is paid to fish and wildlife could be the exact same rather than $50

1554
02:39:34,770 --> 02:39:42,130
and I had this conversation, Dr. Rupadiay, that to me $50 is such a small amount versus

1555
02:39:42,130 --> 02:39:42,750
what it is.

1556
02:39:42,950 --> 02:39:44,710
But on the other side of that, there's the dogs.

1557
02:39:45,430 --> 02:39:52,250
And maybe it's just a stupid idea, but at the same time, yes, you will pay us for the dogs

1558
02:39:52,250 --> 02:39:59,830
or we can train one of your people to do checks for us so that you can do the checking yourself.

1559
02:40:00,240 --> 02:40:11,240
For, because we want to work together, they want to continue there. They don't want their people's votes to get mucked up. Those are really nice, shiny, sparkly votes, typically that they bring to our county.

1560
02:40:11,820 --> 02:40:27,540
And so I don't know if there's a way to train some of those folks so that it's not a $7,000 cost. It's on their own in kind contribution. We've trained you. You know what to look for. You can do the inspections.

1561
02:40:27,540 --> 02:40:31,860
and we'll just go ahead and do the paperwork stuff on the other side.

1562
02:40:32,260 --> 02:40:38,120
Just an idea on trying to get more partners to be helpful rather than relying on us to

1563
02:40:38,120 --> 02:40:40,600
having to do it and somebody having to pay us to do it.

1564
02:40:40,880 --> 02:40:47,840
I know that Mr. Juste stated that we need to stay on topic, I'm going to respectfully disagree.

1565
02:40:48,900 --> 02:40:50,180
I really think we need this.

1566
02:40:51,000 --> 02:40:56,940
We need a long-term plan and I think before finalizing anything in the conversation we had

1567
02:40:56,940 --> 02:41:03,140
yesterday you mentioned going forward with an RFP looking at decontamination tanks, I'd like

1568
02:41:03,140 --> 02:41:09,260
to bring it all back together and understand what is the long term versus the short term

1569
02:41:09,260 --> 02:41:14,340
so that we can really have a good plan that we can then do the outreach as well about because

1570
02:41:14,340 --> 02:41:20,280
I think that would change everything for us if we were able to do what I envision these decontanks

1571
02:41:20,280 --> 02:41:25,980
can do for us. And in all reality, the decontanks themselves are not going to be free. You're

1572
02:41:25,980 --> 02:41:33,440
have to pay to do the contamination of your boats. But to me, the main purpose of everything we're

1573
02:41:33,440 --> 02:41:36,680
doing here is about keeping the lake safe and healthy.

1574
02:41:38,700 --> 02:41:42,200
And that's to me is where that leads us to.

1575
02:41:42,800 --> 02:41:48,000
So I'm willing to say we can move forward like I guess a direction of come back and what does that

1576
02:41:48,000 --> 02:41:53,820
look like at 25 and come back with long-term plan and then let's go through the final approval

1577
02:41:53,820 --> 02:41:58,740
process as well and an outreach plan as well. Thank you. Supervisor Owen.

1578
02:42:00,940 --> 02:42:04,890
I was actually going to ask

1579
02:42:04,890 --> 02:42:12,590
about other grants that were mentioned from other departments. If we could do some outreach and

1580
02:42:12,590 --> 02:42:24,830
look into the grants that were mentioned earlier, there was a few different directions to go. Blue

1581
02:42:24,830 --> 02:42:33,270
might be a suggestion. I'm still on keeping the locals less, which you assured me that is what's

1582
02:42:33,270 --> 02:42:39,130
on your table, but I'm still worried about these large jumps. So I could be on board with a five to

1583
02:42:39,130 --> 02:42:48,830
$10 right now, especially on the locals, and maybe a little more on the visitors, stickers.

1584
02:42:49,630 --> 02:42:53,690
But have you guys looked into what the cost is going to be?

1585
02:42:53,750 --> 02:42:59,230
I know I had asked this, I think the last time you guys were before me, for the decontamination

1586
02:42:59,230 --> 02:42:59,930
tanks.

1587
02:43:01,310 --> 02:43:07,830
So I think just to address some of the questions along with the decont question there.

1588
02:43:08,430 --> 02:43:16,950
So most of these things, like how much shortfall we have between the revenue and the cost

1589
02:43:16,950 --> 02:43:22,050
to run the program is such a large like as you can see like over the last 18 years like we

1590
02:43:22,050 --> 02:43:27,050
never increased it. So it has like eventually grown to to the extent and where the grand

1591
02:43:27,050 --> 02:43:33,390
funding has been going down. So the effect of both of those are let's say the decondrite

1592
02:43:33,390 --> 02:43:40,430
it might bring five grants if we start charging 510 grand 15 grand maximum. The permit fees which

1593
02:43:40,430 --> 02:43:46,390
we are charging $50 brings us 5 grand. So if we make it even $100 bring another 5 grand.

1594
02:43:46,390 --> 02:43:52,110
So, none other measures will cover the gap which we have right now.

1595
02:43:52,450 --> 02:43:59,590
I think increasing the sticker fees is the way to go how much we can probably discuss that as the board said.

1596
02:44:00,150 --> 02:44:07,690
But if you look into like our the cost breakdown of the of the program itself more than 80% of that cost is the staffing cost.

1597
02:44:08,270 --> 02:44:12,270
So, which is just like pay for the staff and the RAM monitors, right?

1598
02:44:12,270 --> 02:44:19,570
So, and you can imagine like over the last 18 years, nobody is getting the same pay, but

1599
02:44:19,570 --> 02:44:20,950
they were getting 18 years before.

1600
02:44:21,650 --> 02:44:25,930
So all that increase, like even though we had other things they are saying outreach and other

1601
02:44:25,930 --> 02:44:30,770
things we will increase it, but that's not to say that the increase will cover that cost.

1602
02:44:31,070 --> 02:44:37,670
Like it may be like we might be able to do that, but with that $60 fees also I think we are,

1603
02:44:37,670 --> 02:44:43,090
still saying that we have to still get 233,000 a year in grand funding.

1604
02:44:43,610 --> 02:44:46,930
So that's not assuming that we will not go after the grants.

1605
02:44:47,330 --> 02:44:50,250
That's assuming that we will continue going after the grant.

1606
02:44:50,610 --> 02:44:56,110
But after that also it's not like it would be very difficult to cover like everything from

1607
02:44:56,110 --> 02:44:56,550
the grant.

1608
02:44:56,550 --> 02:44:59,710
maybe 18 years before it might be feasible or 10 years before.

1609
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:29,980
It might be feasible, but with the state funding going down and we are depending hoping to get more, yeah, there are some other funding sources like the blue ribbon committee, but it won't be an ongoing cost for this specific thing, they might give us fund for a year that might be okay, but, but yeah, I think, and as far as the decont, like the dip tango's like we are already have that process started, we are working on it, we will do a feasibility study, which.

1610
02:45:30,000 --> 02:45:35,420
in next few months that our planning should go out for it and and then we have also applied for

1611
02:45:35,420 --> 02:45:43,060
long term. Depistations over multiple locations throughout the county like where people come in

1612
02:45:43,060 --> 02:45:48,640
or the major highways but that's something which is a long term thing like it can't happen

1613
02:45:48,640 --> 02:45:55,240
you over the even over the next two years so they're just to for the outreach I think we have

1614
02:45:55,240 --> 02:45:59,700
planned it first we need some direction from the board like which way we are going even to start

1615
02:45:59,700 --> 02:46:05,440
that conversation. And that's the reason why we have this increase to be starting in 2027,

1616
02:46:05,680 --> 02:46:11,360
like in July 2027. So we have the time to do that outreach thing. We have reached out

1617
02:46:11,360 --> 02:46:15,620
to Fish and Wildlife to have this kind of conversation about what their jurisdiction is,

1618
02:46:15,740 --> 02:46:21,140
what we are allowed to do, what probably they don't want us to enter into, because the two

1619
02:46:21,140 --> 02:46:28,820
moment is more of their direction from the state about or their area of work. So we had those

1620
02:46:28,820 --> 02:46:42,840
conversation with them and then we're going to do like more outreach, as well as I think we have also plan to do the outreach to the air BNB's or around the county like who

1621
02:46:42,840 --> 02:46:54,220
most these people like who come from outside. So that's in the planning, but that's what right now it says September right. So we have this going in July. So we will definitely that's part of our plan here.

1622
02:46:56,620 --> 02:47:00,000
With the native territories, do they do the same?

1623
02:47:00,320 --> 02:47:03,660
Do they do the inspections like say it can octaveista?

1624
02:47:05,660 --> 02:47:09,480
Are they required to and do they sell the stickers for us to?

1625
02:47:09,600 --> 02:47:10,220
How does that work?

1626
02:47:10,480 --> 02:47:12,520
Yes, they sell the stickers for us.

1627
02:47:12,640 --> 02:47:16,300
And I think before the events, do we have our RAM monitors there?

1628
02:47:17,000 --> 02:47:17,880
Yeah, do you want to add something?

1629
02:47:18,820 --> 02:47:22,240
Yes, so we work closely with them.

1630
02:47:22,240 --> 02:47:30,460
And we are at their lawn tramps and they do sell our sickers when we don't have a ramp

1631
02:47:30,460 --> 02:47:31,400
monitor there.

1632
02:47:31,400 --> 02:47:31,860
Perfect.

1633
02:47:32,000 --> 02:47:33,360
Thank you.

1634
02:47:33,480 --> 02:47:34,440
Vice Chair.

1635
02:47:36,160 --> 02:47:40,900
For the 2027 sugar price, I don't, I think we need to do a $10 increase.

1636
02:47:41,160 --> 02:47:47,980
I think 10 is fair, it's not the biggest jump, but we do need a substantial increase.

1637
02:47:47,980 --> 02:47:55,440
And then I think getting the input moving forward on how we build that program out.

1638
02:47:56,020 --> 02:48:05,000
All right, where I'm at is I think we need to do more outreach and investigation and have more options coming in from us.

1639
02:48:05,740 --> 02:48:15,320
I don't want to prove this today. I want to go back and do some more work and bring it back to us with more options.

1640
02:48:15,320 --> 02:48:16,760
I think we have plenty of time.

1641
02:48:17,380 --> 02:48:19,100
It's August, we've got 11 months.

1642
02:48:19,700 --> 02:48:20,580
I don't want to wait around.

1643
02:48:20,720 --> 02:48:23,680
I want to start right away getting that outreach done,

1644
02:48:24,040 --> 02:48:25,500
because time does go quick.

1645
02:48:27,140 --> 02:48:29,320
But one of the other questions is,

1646
02:48:30,220 --> 02:48:32,080
I don't think it really came up

1647
02:48:32,080 --> 02:48:34,240
other than it was on the PowerPoint

1648
02:48:34,240 --> 02:48:37,120
that when the vendor sells the ticket or the sticker,

1649
02:48:37,840 --> 02:48:38,860
they're keeping $7.

1650
02:48:39,240 --> 02:48:40,320
We're only getting $13.

1651
02:48:40,520 --> 02:48:42,960
If we sell it, we're getting $20.

1652
02:48:42,960 --> 02:48:50,220
I do want to, when we talk to the businesses and the vendors, you know, have that discussion with them too,

1653
02:48:50,440 --> 02:48:53,220
they do need to make money if they're going to sell stickers.

1654
02:48:53,460 --> 02:48:56,460
I mean, that's what happens with other kinds of permits.

1655
02:48:57,780 --> 02:49:02,620
But that's bringing us a minimal amount when it drops down to 13,

1656
02:49:03,120 --> 02:49:09,660
where I think we could have a discussion about what's reasonable for their fee on top of the 20.

1657
02:49:11,000 --> 02:49:16,740
So that's where I am, I do appreciate the work, I appreciate you getting it back to us,

1658
02:49:16,880 --> 02:49:22,320
we gave you direction to come back, you got back pretty quickly and also appreciate all the

1659
02:49:22,320 --> 02:49:27,000
work that you guys are doing in the field, we all know it's important, we just had that

1660
02:49:27,000 --> 02:49:33,100
July example where this every part of the system worked perfectly, it turned out not to be

1661
02:49:33,100 --> 02:49:38,560
a muscle, but it looked like it was and had that system not been in place, it would have

1662
02:49:38,560 --> 02:49:45,680
in the lake. So anyway, that's where I said today. I'd be in preference of us given, you know,

1663
02:49:45,700 --> 02:49:53,100
direction and not voting on it today. Anything else from the board on? I'm good on that.

1664
02:49:53,700 --> 02:49:57,240
Go ahead. Well, I heard a $10 increase.

1665
02:49:59,460 --> 02:49:59,980
I know that's-

1666
02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:11,340
Looking at the CPI from 2008 to 2026, it's increased by 55.09%. So that would fit in the $10 increase, because that would be a 50% increase.

1667
02:50:11,840 --> 02:50:20,500
But at the same time, I think we need to look at what has been the increase in the extra help, which that's the majority of the costs for ramp monitors are extra help.

1668
02:50:20,800 --> 02:50:28,620
What has been the increase in salary that we've approved to also balance out, because to me, 55 is the maximum.

1669
02:50:28,620 --> 02:50:34,660
It may be less and what's been increased with all the salary schedule upgrades that we've done

1670
02:50:35,760 --> 02:50:42,720
But I would still sit firmly at a the five and so if it's possible, maybe to come back with those options

1671
02:50:43,320 --> 02:50:48,020
Because obviously nobody's saying 50 or 40 or any of those kinds of numbers

1672
02:50:49,140 --> 02:50:50,260
Supervisor on

1673
02:50:50,940 --> 02:50:54,040
The last I think it was it might have been a couple of times ago

1674
02:50:54,040 --> 02:50:57,860
Well, we had asked about your volunteer program for your ramp, ramp

1675
02:50:57,860 --> 02:50:59,200
marketers as well.

1676
02:50:59,800 --> 02:51:03,660
And I know that you were looking into really starting

1677
02:51:03,660 --> 02:51:04,840
to try to get that going.

1678
02:51:05,220 --> 02:51:09,460
Do we have any more movement in the volunteer program?

1679
02:51:12,160 --> 02:51:12,680
Yeah, no.

1680
02:51:12,700 --> 02:51:15,540
I don't think we have anything substantial there yet.

1681
02:51:16,620 --> 02:51:21,260
But I think to rely on volunteer for something like this,

1682
02:51:21,260 --> 02:51:22,880
I don't know how much fees we get.

1683
02:51:22,900 --> 02:51:25,040
It's a pretty demanding job for that I wanted

1684
02:51:25,040 --> 02:51:31,500
to be on site and we might include like some high school students or the college for

1685
02:51:31,500 --> 02:51:36,380
as an intern kind of thing, people who can eventually join our program as well.

1686
02:51:37,060 --> 02:51:42,660
But to have a volunteer basis, probably that I think we had the discussion in our department,

1687
02:51:44,060 --> 02:51:50,820
we can look into that further, but that doesn't seem like a practical way of, obviously for

1688
02:51:50,820 --> 02:51:51,440
the Ram monitors.

1689
02:51:51,440 --> 02:51:53,820
Okay, thank you.

1690
02:51:54,120 --> 02:51:54,400
Super, thank you.

1691
02:51:54,920 --> 02:51:56,280
I just want to add one thing.

1692
02:51:56,280 --> 02:51:58,240
I'm sure it's not the favorite thing for me to say.

1693
02:51:58,580 --> 02:52:03,720
But I know that the people voted for measure C, which was the cannabis tax.

1694
02:52:03,940 --> 02:52:11,380
And in that cannabis tax, water quality was one of the major components of what we were asking people to vote on.

1695
02:52:11,660 --> 02:52:12,460
They approved it.

1696
02:52:12,520 --> 02:52:13,540
We're collecting it.

1697
02:52:13,540 --> 02:52:14,360
We have money.

1698
02:52:14,600 --> 02:52:17,420
And that's why I'm looking for long term.

1699
02:52:18,540 --> 02:52:23,500
changes where that money can help in the short term to get to our long-term change.

1700
02:52:24,260 --> 02:52:31,500
And to me, identifying what are the savings with these long-term plans versus the way I

1701
02:52:31,500 --> 02:52:35,260
look at it is what we did in the city of Clear Lake where somebody came to us and it was

1702
02:52:35,260 --> 02:52:36,540
just a slap in the face.

1703
02:52:36,800 --> 02:52:41,080
You can do grading of dirt roads for the next 10 years and spend $500,000 a year and you

1704
02:52:41,080 --> 02:52:42,680
end up with dirt roads.

1705
02:52:42,680 --> 02:52:49,600
or you could start spending some good money and turn those dirt roads into actual real roads and now you've changed the community.

1706
02:52:50,220 --> 02:52:58,680
I'm looking for what is that permanent change rather than continuously putting money in something that is the same 20 years down the road.

1707
02:52:59,240 --> 02:53:05,860
There's got to be an enhancement. There's got to be a better way to protect our lake and that's what I'm looking for.

1708
02:53:08,100 --> 02:53:20,540
Okay, so I don't have a problem with you mentioned all those other checking out what the increases has been, because I think we're going to investigate and look further.

1709
02:53:21,260 --> 02:53:25,240
We want to have all the facts in front of us.

1710
02:53:26,080 --> 02:53:29,100
So that's where I am today.

1711
02:53:29,560 --> 02:53:34,100
I'm not hearing from the board that we're going to vote on this today.

1712
02:53:34,100 --> 02:53:37,440
So sounds like we're gonna give direction.

1713
02:53:38,020 --> 02:53:39,600
Do you have go ahead County Council?

1714
02:53:39,800 --> 02:53:41,240
Yes, thank you, Mr. Chair, just briefly.

1715
02:53:42,080 --> 02:53:44,320
So with your board's direction to staff,

1716
02:53:44,840 --> 02:53:45,960
coming back with these options,

1717
02:53:46,160 --> 02:53:47,260
presenting your board with the options,

1718
02:53:47,640 --> 02:53:53,660
just to let your board know that any finalized approval

1719
02:53:53,660 --> 02:53:58,420
of the fees will most likely entail the amendment

1720
02:53:58,420 --> 02:53:59,980
of the master fee schedule resolution,

1721
02:54:00,160 --> 02:54:03,420
because the master, the county's master fee schedule resolution

1722
02:54:03,420 --> 02:54:09,300
and actually attaches these very same fees related to the QualcommOSO program, and so that's

1723
02:54:09,300 --> 02:54:14,420
for your board's reference and for staff officers as well, when it goes to the point

1724
02:54:14,420 --> 02:54:18,660
of per board direction presenting your board with these options for free increases.

1725
02:54:21,530 --> 02:54:28,010
Yeah, I think do you, do you, do you, are you clear on what we've asked in the direction?

1726
02:54:28,470 --> 02:54:34,910
I think, in the annual fee schedule, like if it happens in July, we'll automatically get updated

1727
02:54:34,910 --> 02:54:36,290
to the newer one.

1728
02:54:38,680 --> 02:54:42,740
What it would depend on when the what the proposal is of when these

1729
02:54:42,740 --> 02:54:48,140
fees take into effect. Typically, they get approved starting beginning of the calendar year

1730
02:54:48,140 --> 02:54:53,940
on words as amendments take place. This would be in July, so it would be a new fiscal year.

1731
02:54:56,900 --> 02:54:59,960
Okay, but we still want to adjust.

1732
02:55:00,000 --> 02:55:08,320
Thus, then, when we update the next fee schedule, which could be before, will be before July.

1733
02:55:09,380 --> 02:55:11,440
It happens in March or April 4.

1734
02:55:11,860 --> 02:55:20,880
Okay. All right. Just for lack of confusion, for direction, because I feel like it's very nebulous.

1735
02:55:22,440 --> 02:55:32,300
Yes to event fees, yes to a portion of an increase to the sticker fee, but then eventually

1736
02:55:32,880 --> 02:55:38,980
maybe at mid-year, kind of share with us where you think the rest of money might come from

1737
02:55:38,980 --> 02:55:44,620
so that we can have those discussions prior to full final decision.

1738
02:55:44,620 --> 02:56:04,720
I just feel like we're sending you back to your office with not much, I don't know, I, I, no, I think that makes sense like I mean what we can do is like we can revert it around and see like how much that number says and whatever we will fall short on.

1739
02:56:04,720 --> 02:56:09,380
board has to fill in from somewhere, I guess, like, whether

1740
02:56:10,360 --> 02:56:14,280
general fund, cannabis fund or wherever that is coming from.

1741
02:56:14,440 --> 02:56:17,960
Because right now, what we are proposing is was the clear direction saying,

1742
02:56:18,300 --> 02:56:22,520
so in order to, we are not asking the board to fill in the gap like what we have.

1743
02:56:22,900 --> 02:56:26,980
But without going into the 60, we are creating that gap now.

1744
02:56:27,180 --> 02:56:32,820
So that gap has to be filled from somewhere until as we want to cut down on our program.

1745
02:56:34,240 --> 02:56:42,180
I felt we should increase the permit fee as well from the 52 probably 100 is where I wouldn't

1746
02:56:42,180 --> 02:56:42,980
be looking at.

1747
02:56:43,420 --> 02:56:48,620
But I think the same thing which I said earlier, so it's a small cost item like even if

1748
02:56:48,620 --> 02:56:55,760
increase it, it might bring five grand more than what we have, but it needs to pay for the

1749
02:56:55,760 --> 02:56:57,180
time at the very least.

1750
02:56:57,180 --> 02:57:07,120
You know, so what I heard was consensus on some kind of a fee increase is necessary on stickers down the road where not making a decision on what that is today.

1751
02:57:07,740 --> 02:57:22,280
I also did hear the consensus on the event application fee but not on this all these extra fees with the dogs and what not at this point I didn't hear consensus on that.

1752
02:57:22,280 --> 02:57:29,400
I'd love to see if it's possible to do again the training and I guess self, it sounds

1753
02:57:30,360 --> 02:57:37,280
conflicty of sorts to check yourself but at the same time looking for a way to

1754
02:57:38,400 --> 02:57:44,460
protect our lake and not have a $7,000 bill because that definitely would have an impact.

1755
02:57:44,920 --> 02:57:51,740
Would the integrity of it be reduced is what I'm worried about with that, with people signing

1756
02:57:51,740 --> 02:57:58,240
themselves off. I think the whole reason we need to have this permit is in order to control

1757
02:57:58,240 --> 02:58:03,720
like the people like who are not obeying the laws or the rules or the county ordinances because

1758
02:58:03,720 --> 02:58:09,280
this permit gives us a checking point on saying until unless we approve it, we give you a

1759
02:58:09,280 --> 02:58:13,660
sign permit, you can't hold the tournament because then they are more accountable towards that.

1760
02:58:13,980 --> 02:58:19,720
Right now because we don't have any permit, so they are doing the things like which we are asking

1761
02:58:19,720 --> 02:58:23,940
like we have to change them down like where they're people are when it's launching or when

1762
02:58:23,940 --> 02:58:28,860
it's happening. So what that permit gives us is a little bit more control on like what's happening

1763
02:58:28,860 --> 02:58:33,380
on the lake and and I think that's the whole reason like it's not like we want to add one more

1764
02:58:33,380 --> 02:58:38,980
thing to our task that we have enough of our things to take care of especially even considering in

1765
02:58:38,980 --> 02:58:44,440
this program. It just like and I think the previous I think a comment was made about

1766
02:58:44,440 --> 02:58:47,740
coordinating with fish and wildlife, California Department of Fish and Wildlife.

1767
02:58:48,320 --> 02:58:50,140
We had this multiple conversation with them.

1768
02:58:50,160 --> 02:58:55,160
I have sent them official letter 2 to 3 times and we can provide it that as a supporting

1769
02:58:55,160 --> 02:58:56,760
documents to the board later on.

1770
02:58:57,320 --> 02:59:02,580
And we had multiple conversation over the phones or like the person who sedules these two

1771
02:59:02,580 --> 02:59:02,900
moments.

1772
02:59:03,260 --> 02:59:10,220
It seems like they are not coordinating or not listening to what we are saying with the changes

1773
02:59:10,220 --> 02:59:10,960
they are making.

1774
02:59:10,960 --> 02:59:14,460
they will make the last minute change and it will throw us like off guard.

1775
02:59:14,600 --> 02:59:19,140
We have to schedule docs months and add ones like we can't just schedule it within a week

1776
02:59:19,140 --> 02:59:19,640
of notice.

1777
02:59:20,180 --> 02:59:25,460
So, that creates like a lot of problem with us doing that program in a right way.

1778
02:59:26,000 --> 02:59:28,960
So, I'll leave you talk about the loopholes in the program, right.

1779
02:59:29,300 --> 02:59:33,520
So, that creates even more loopholes because now we can't schedule the docs or like we

1780
02:59:33,520 --> 02:59:36,340
and have the Ram monitor schedule for that location.

1781
02:59:36,640 --> 02:59:43,920
If they change from let's say one lamp Ram location to another or they change their

1782
02:59:43,920 --> 02:59:44,460
launch days.

1783
02:59:44,940 --> 02:59:47,600
So that's the whole purpose of having that permit in place.

1784
02:59:50,280 --> 02:59:56,380
The only other thing I think might be beneficial because we have a lot of questions is maybe

1785
02:59:57,260 --> 02:59:59,860
getting the progress or not to eat down the road.

1786
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:05,100
If it's depending on how long it's going to be before the whole thing gets back in front of us.

1787
03:00:05,940 --> 03:00:12,060
Yeah, and we can come back to board in two, two, three months to re-work this thing around,

1788
03:00:12,700 --> 03:00:18,600
and which is based on today's feedback, and then come back again with proposed change proposal.

1789
03:00:19,160 --> 03:00:27,440
And the public outreach portion of it, is that something that you can handle, or do we need to have a committee?

1790
03:00:28,360 --> 03:00:29,500
We can handle it.

1791
03:00:29,840 --> 03:00:31,420
We already do a lot of outreach.

1792
03:00:31,880 --> 03:00:34,580
It's more, we can set up the committee as well if needed.

1793
03:00:34,820 --> 03:00:37,580
But I think when the program was first set up,

1794
03:00:37,680 --> 03:00:39,860
that's a separate kind of thing because right now,

1795
03:00:39,940 --> 03:00:42,100
nobody is disagreeing that we need to have,

1796
03:00:42,100 --> 03:00:44,000
have to or not need to have this program.

1797
03:00:44,280 --> 03:00:47,680
Right? I think it's more about how we sustain that program.

1798
03:00:47,820 --> 03:00:49,040
That's what we are going after it.

1799
03:00:49,360 --> 03:00:50,640
So in the first instance,

1800
03:00:50,800 --> 03:00:52,720
it makes a lot more sense to have the committee

1801
03:00:52,720 --> 03:00:54,400
discussion and everything going on.

1802
03:00:54,400 --> 03:00:59,760
but right now it's very clear that we need to have this program in order to keep their legs safe, right?

1803
03:00:59,900 --> 03:01:07,180
It's more about having those agreement about or not having that sticker sock of $60 from $20 to $60.

1804
03:01:07,880 --> 03:01:10,540
So I think that probably we might be able to handle it.

1805
03:01:11,880 --> 03:01:18,540
I think we also need more clarity about before we do or invest more into our outreach thing

1806
03:01:18,540 --> 03:01:24,600
because we need like where we are going right right now we don't know like right now like

1807
03:01:24,600 --> 03:01:28,900
let's say we came with this proposal if we got a clear direction on I think it's much easier

1808
03:01:28,900 --> 03:01:33,880
to do the outreach with that because that's what we are getting to but right now I don't

1809
03:01:33,880 --> 03:01:40,360
until unless we have a clear idea about like how much we are going to get it I think we can do

1810
03:01:40,360 --> 03:01:48,180
some outreach like in order to come up to that consensus have talk with vendors but it would

1811
03:01:48,180 --> 03:01:52,200
limited until let's we have a clear direction about like how much the sticker is going to be.

1812
03:01:53,160 --> 03:01:56,380
Yeah, I'm excited. Yeah, okay. Any other

1813
03:01:57,260 --> 03:02:02,280
impression you from us at this point? No, I think we are good. I think we've got some direction,

1814
03:02:02,560 --> 03:02:08,280
and then we will come back in a few months and we can go from there. Okay. All right, then I

1815
03:02:08,280 --> 03:02:14,040
think we can go ahead and conclude this item for today. Thank you for bringing it in,

1816
03:02:14,040 --> 03:02:16,680
appreciate the work. Thank you.

1817
03:02:18,830 --> 03:02:21,510
And we are down to everything except for reports.

1818
03:02:23,750 --> 03:02:24,060
So I'm

1819
03:02:24,670 --> 03:02:33,540
thinking of we would do reports and then take a lunch so staff can get lunch and then come back

1820
03:02:34,330 --> 03:02:41,020
ahead. Do you want to start by the first? Yeah last

1821
03:02:43,480 --> 03:02:46,160
week we had the first lake of San

1822
03:02:46,160 --> 03:02:55,580
board meeting and clear lake and scheduled the next two meetings out and the Black

1823
03:02:55,580 --> 03:02:59,860
Break Popular Festival was incredible. Once again, thank you to all the volunteers.

1824
03:03:00,820 --> 03:03:10,680
So, a biggest one yet. And then this week, I've got a meeting with staff this afternoon

1825
03:03:14,130 --> 03:03:18,710
Tomorrow, three different meetings here at the courthouse.

1826
03:03:18,870 --> 03:03:25,170
It looks like, and the C-Sect tour Thursday morning,

1827
03:03:26,690 --> 03:03:27,770
geothermal meeting,

1828
03:03:32,470 --> 03:03:33,310
Friday,

1829
03:03:36,480 --> 03:03:40,840
several meetings, and then a dinner in the evening on Friday,

1830
03:03:41,280 --> 03:03:45,840
and then there's the fair, and then, no meeting next week.

1831
03:03:47,600 --> 03:03:48,960
Thank you.

1832
03:03:49,440 --> 03:03:50,340
Somebody ready?

1833
03:03:50,700 --> 03:03:51,120
Sure.

1834
03:03:51,320 --> 03:03:53,640
I'll just highlight what's going on on Thursday.

1835
03:03:54,920 --> 03:03:56,120
Did it once last year?

1836
03:03:56,200 --> 03:03:58,100
I don't remember if it ever happened before that.

1837
03:03:58,660 --> 03:04:02,260
Or if it's a new thing, the California State Association of Counties is

1838
03:04:02,260 --> 03:04:07,240
brings their current president and gives tours of counties.

1839
03:04:07,660 --> 03:04:10,100
We organize the tours for them.

1840
03:04:10,100 --> 03:04:13,300
They'll be coming in on Thursday and

1841
03:04:13,300 --> 03:04:20,260
excited to share everybody's district but my own to show off what's going on. We had to

1842
03:04:20,260 --> 03:04:25,120
trim off a little bit of fat from the itinerary. We'll just talk about what's happening in

1843
03:04:25,120 --> 03:04:30,100
district too and that'll be fine but I'm excited to show off what Lake County is working on

1844
03:04:30,100 --> 03:04:35,720
is planning and is actively doing and in the last time they came here they were kind of enamored

1845
03:04:35,720 --> 03:04:41,800
with all the work that we've been doing and I suspect that they'll be leaving with the same feeling as

1846
03:04:41,800 --> 03:04:49,400
So, thank you to all of you for taking time out of your day, so we can all meet separately and keep the brown act from having any issues

1847
03:04:50,100 --> 03:04:52,840
But I'm looking forward to that day. I think it's always good to have

1848
03:04:53,320 --> 03:04:58,440
statewide advocacy group come and visit us. Yeah, it was Bruce was president last and we did

1849
03:05:00,000 --> 03:05:06,740
Right. Yeah. Yeah. In the jail wasn't built yet. I mean, not the jail, the new sheriff's office.

1850
03:05:07,240 --> 03:05:10,280
Because we went out there. Supervisor Owen.

1851
03:05:13,550 --> 03:05:16,710
Yesterday we had the energy ad hoc committee.

1852
03:05:17,550 --> 03:05:24,730
And they will be coming and speaking to our CSAC on Thursday as well.

1853
03:05:31,290 --> 03:05:41,830
I have fire-wise tomorrow and the CSX on Thursday as well as I think we have the Geothermal

1854
03:05:41,830 --> 03:05:49,310
Advisory Committee on Thursday as well and then I have a dermatologist appointment on Friday

1855
03:05:49,310 --> 03:05:59,810
and I do have some meetings with some constituents this week and the Blue Ribbon Dinner for

1856
03:05:59,810 --> 03:06:08,830
County Fair is at 7 p.m. at Friday here at the Fairgrounds. And so this is the Lake County Fair

1857
03:06:08,830 --> 03:06:15,310
Week, and I hope everybody makes it out to the Fair. You said 7, I thought it's 6.

1858
03:06:15,570 --> 03:06:22,230
Oh, it might be. I might have wrote it down wrong. Thank you. Supervisor On. Last week, I had a first five

1859
03:06:22,230 --> 03:06:31,790
meeting and a Lake O'SAN board meeting last Friday. I went to the big valley, housing

1860
03:06:31,790 --> 03:06:37,470
groundbreaking for their new housing project that's in put in that's going to be over

1861
03:06:37,470 --> 03:06:44,510
20 new homes out there. I went to the Blackberry Festival, which is a great event in the county.

1862
03:06:45,710 --> 03:06:52,030
I'll be at the C-Sector for the stuff in the Lakeport district. Most of the morning on Thursday

1863
03:06:53,310 --> 03:06:57,570
I think we have a COC that day.

1864
03:06:58,030 --> 03:06:59,950
Hopefully I'll be able to make that.

1865
03:07:01,050 --> 03:07:03,790
I have some follow-up meetings on Friday.

1866
03:07:05,150 --> 03:07:07,410
I'm planning to go to the fair dinner.

1867
03:07:08,710 --> 03:07:12,930
And then we next week, no meeting, but we have a Laco San meeting.

1868
03:07:13,410 --> 03:07:14,670
Again, next week.

1869
03:07:15,830 --> 03:07:19,930
And then we have the co-management agreement,

1870
03:07:20,730 --> 03:07:31,650
signing out a big valley on Friday next and then next Saturday will be several, they

1871
03:07:31,650 --> 03:07:38,190
have the Scotts Valley big time event in California, Indian day going on at Scotts

1872
03:07:38,190 --> 03:07:45,490
Valley and big valley tribes and then on Saturday of next week also the 12th

1873
03:07:45,490 --> 03:07:53,550
have a new Holocaust survivor display at the museum or they haven't event. So anyway that's

1874
03:07:53,550 --> 03:08:02,350
it for our reports and it's 12.04 we're going to take a lunch break to 105 but I'm going

1875
03:08:02,350 --> 03:08:09,270
to read out the clothes. Can I do that before? Because we don't have any other open items.

1876
03:08:09,270 --> 03:08:16,270
So, when we come back at 105, I'll read off the items, 8.1, conference with legal counsel,

1877
03:08:16,550 --> 03:08:23,410
significant exposure to litigation, pursuant to government code section 5.4, 9.5.6.9.D.2,

1878
03:08:23,430 --> 03:08:28,350
and E1.1 case, but we're going to strike that from our agenda. We're not going to be

1879
03:08:28,350 --> 03:08:36,270
taking that up today. And then we'll have 8.2, which we will take up, and that is public

1880
03:08:36,270 --> 03:08:44,270
employee discipline dismissal release. Are there any comments on any of that? Not seeing any

1881
03:08:44,270 --> 03:08:50,670
online or in the room, so with that we're going to be adjourned from regular meeting and we'll

1882
03:08:50,670 --> 03:08:54,990
go straight into closed at 105 when we get back. Thank you.

1883
03:09:09,470 --> 03:09:11,470
I have a motion. In a second,

1884
03:09:11,470 --> 03:09:20,230
All in favor, I opposed hearing none that carries 40 and this meeting is concluded.

1885
03:09:21,270 --> 03:09:22,250
Thank you.