1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:04,820 This teller and being held very dropped by name and up ice votes, regards will a musical ceremony. 2 00:00:06,460 --> 00:00:08,000 Yep, no problem. 3 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:13,520 Yeah. 4 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:14,340 Oh, I'm not going to be a nice person. 5 00:00:14,340 --> 00:00:14,660 I'm going to be a nice person. 6 00:00:16,980 --> 00:00:18,020 I'm going to be a nice person. 7 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:22,680 Oh, I know. 8 00:00:23,060 --> 00:00:23,840 Yeah, I know. 9 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,000 We're going to be left out. 10 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:32,300 It put the rules out from the play, but then we take these things up into a place where all this. 11 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:33,240 Oh, nice. 12 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:34,340 That's right. 13 00:00:35,340 --> 00:00:35,460 Yeah. 14 00:00:35,460 --> 00:00:36,900 It didn't even kind of, uh... 15 00:00:36,900 --> 00:00:38,000 Thanks, sir. 16 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,040 I always think it's a good thing to do things I know. 17 00:00:41,380 --> 00:00:42,780 I take them over to the... 18 00:00:42,780 --> 00:00:43,000 Yeah. 19 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:46,040 At a grist mill, a 73rd Avenue, and me for Uber. 20 00:00:46,140 --> 00:00:47,800 It's, like, an abandoned neighborhood. 21 00:00:48,260 --> 00:00:49,700 Oh, it's just clean. 22 00:00:52,060 --> 00:00:52,500 Yeah. 23 00:00:52,500 --> 00:00:53,180 It's just clean. 24 00:00:53,340 --> 00:00:53,780 Yeah. 25 00:00:53,780 --> 00:00:56,420 I guess it's safe in, this is my granddaughter. 26 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:58,560 I should think of mine. 27 00:00:59,620 --> 00:01:01,280 Yeah, I just, I would say wait. 28 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:03,380 I don't think she's in the house. 29 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:04,680 Yeah, she's in the house. 30 00:01:05,380 --> 00:01:06,420 She's always in the house. 31 00:01:07,120 --> 00:01:08,240 But she is pretty. 32 00:01:08,900 --> 00:01:09,660 She's just so smart. 33 00:01:10,180 --> 00:01:11,780 She's just like this. 34 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:12,800 All right. 35 00:01:13,020 --> 00:01:14,240 It's my favorite community. 36 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,280 I just obviously have an hammer with my dog, 37 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:19,900 but this is because she's in the house. 38 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:21,700 Yeah, I'm going to be there. 39 00:02:21,700 --> 00:02:23,700 down the line. 40 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:33,580 Just like, you want to start with, well, we just start with an up start with it. 41 00:02:36,300 --> 00:02:42,940 Hey Ron, when we cut the part of the meat, and we call the meat in the order, would you want to start with a number one? 42 00:02:43,260 --> 00:02:45,560 We don't show up, we don't even have to do anything about it. 43 00:02:49,660 --> 00:02:52,980 It's like there's no run signal start, but number one is called. 44 00:02:53,700 --> 00:02:55,580 If you're cold with that, I think it's okay. 45 00:04:03,580 --> 00:04:11,680 to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, into this fault, with liberty and justice for all. 46 00:04:12,700 --> 00:04:13,740 Thank you. 47 00:04:17,300 --> 00:04:18,320 We do no call. 48 00:04:18,500 --> 00:04:19,600 Madam Secretary, please. 49 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:20,720 First is your name. 50 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:23,240 Your second is your normal group. 51 00:04:23,420 --> 00:04:23,600 Here. 52 00:04:23,840 --> 00:04:25,360 Third district, Charlie Brown. 53 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:27,060 Fourth district, Pete with woman. 54 00:04:27,180 --> 00:04:27,500 Present. 55 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:28,940 Third district, Christine C. 56 00:04:29,180 --> 00:04:29,480 Here. 57 00:04:29,620 --> 00:04:31,080 sixth district, Ted Zilcki. 58 00:04:31,260 --> 00:04:31,400 Here. 59 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:32,360 Second district, Randy. 60 00:04:32,860 --> 00:04:33,280 Present. 61 00:04:36,970 --> 00:04:37,870 All right. Thank you. 62 00:04:38,050 --> 00:04:38,370 Correct. 63 00:04:39,090 --> 00:04:48,350 Okay, I will start our meeting with our financial director, giving us a update on our finances. 64 00:04:49,250 --> 00:04:50,390 Thank you. 65 00:04:51,190 --> 00:04:57,050 Yeah, overall, I think the financial hole for Lake County continues to head in the right direction. 66 00:04:57,670 --> 00:05:00,950 Test them into your decisions in your work, especially for the last three. 67 00:05:00,180 --> 00:05:13,060 We continue to target increases in the military service, and we've done that year after year, even despite some of the challenges in the Senate, but one this year, a hiccup with the media here, see. 68 00:05:15,140 --> 00:05:30,080 So that's all going on in the right direction. I think it needs to continue in the right direction, just simply based on how Senate Bill 1 may impact the county at some point. I use the word may, because clearly it appears that there's going to be adjustments to that legislation. 69 00:05:30,180 --> 00:05:36,360 this session, possibly a couple other sessions, so then most recently with them moving out 70 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:42,560 the impact of the expiration of the current lead structure from expiring at the end of 71 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:50,320 27, pushing that out to the end of 28, should mitigate some of the revenue loss that was 72 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:55,460 projected by the state on 28, so that'll help with some things that just kind of pushes 73 00:05:55,460 --> 00:06:01,820 it out to 29. And the main reason why that mitigates it is because in Lake County, we are the 74 00:06:01,820 --> 00:06:10,500 only county that uses 100% of our 1% is PTRC relief. And the longer that stays on, the less 75 00:06:10,500 --> 00:06:17,340 we'll experience cap loss, not just as a county entity, but all entities that are sending out 76 00:06:17,340 --> 00:06:22,100 property tax bills. So long as that stays intact, that kind of cushions some of that 77 00:06:22,100 --> 00:06:27,400 loss. So that being said, that's really all I have at this point. 78 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,400 Okay. Any questions for staff? No questions. 79 00:06:30,840 --> 00:06:35,860 All right. We have some directives in front of us. 80 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,140 Consonibular, if you would begin. 81 00:06:38,580 --> 00:06:39,120 I'm a person. 82 00:06:40,180 --> 00:06:44,040 Mid-more to take action on action one. 83 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:50,460 See the 2027 budget from the 2026 original council approved budget for all 84 00:06:50,460 --> 00:06:59,580 having funds and the C-cell or all funds at a rate of June 6, 30, 20, 20, 6. 85 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:02,880 Motion's been made in seconded. 86 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:03,660 Any discussion? 87 00:07:04,660 --> 00:07:05,280 Well, colleagues. 88 00:07:05,980 --> 00:07:06,160 Yeah. 89 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:06,980 Brewer? 90 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:07,980 Yes. 91 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:09,980 Yes. 92 00:07:10,180 --> 00:07:10,540 Yes. 93 00:07:13,380 --> 00:07:15,580 Motion passes six-one apps. 94 00:07:15,580 --> 00:07:22,800 Now, Chair, I move for approval to see the 2027 budget for all non-levy funded. 95 00:07:23,220 --> 00:07:29,720 I'm sorry, non-levy funds as requested by departments for 2027 excluding salaries and supplemental pay. 96 00:07:30,140 --> 00:07:30,460 Second. 97 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,640 Motion's been made in seconded discussion. 98 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:35,200 Royal colleagues. 99 00:07:35,620 --> 00:07:35,860 The board? 100 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:36,840 Yes. 101 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:38,160 Yes. 102 00:07:39,140 --> 00:07:39,640 Me, Meyer. 103 00:07:40,380 --> 00:07:40,420 Yes. 104 00:07:40,960 --> 00:07:41,160 Yes. 105 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,040 Motion passes six, one, absent. 106 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:51,460 I'm Chair, I make a motion to approve all salary increases for all collective bargaining agreement in contracting 107 00:07:51,460 --> 00:07:57,600 increases with a special note that the sheriff's police correctional officers and highway departments are in negotiations. 108 00:07:59,100 --> 00:07:59,720 Motion's been made. 109 00:07:59,860 --> 00:08:00,380 Seconded. 110 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:01,100 Discussion? 111 00:08:02,100 --> 00:08:02,460 roll call. 112 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:03,740 Yes. 113 00:08:04,620 --> 00:08:04,840 Yes. 114 00:08:05,100 --> 00:08:05,920 May I? 115 00:08:08,760 --> 00:08:08,900 Yes. 116 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:10,340 Motion passes. 117 00:08:10,700 --> 00:08:19,000 One answer. Madam President, move to forward action for approve mandated salary increases 118 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:25,140 for Indiana Supreme Court. For example, judges, prosecutor, deputy prosecutor, magistrate 119 00:08:25,140 --> 00:08:30,400 sheriff, chief, public defender, assistant chief, public defender, approve probation 120 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:36,400 officer salaries for Indiana judicial conference schedule and tax base funds. Second. 121 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:40,700 Motion's been made in seconded discussion, roll call, please. 122 00:08:41,260 --> 00:08:41,860 Yes. 123 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:43,200 Yes. 124 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:46,000 Yes. 125 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:47,120 Yes. 126 00:08:47,340 --> 00:08:49,000 Motion cast the six one absent. 127 00:08:49,700 --> 00:09:06,280 Madam President, I move to approve requested amounts for 63730 property rental six one two five zero assessor certification six one two two nine board member per DM six one two one zero longevity six one two five one assessor per DM. 128 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,720 six one-one nine six election day work. 129 00:09:12,180 --> 00:09:13,040 Second, second, second. 130 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:14,240 This is been made in the second answer. 131 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:15,220 Discussion? 132 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:17,220 Well, call please. 133 00:09:17,660 --> 00:09:17,920 Do you mind? 134 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:18,880 Yes. 135 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:19,280 Hey, I'm. 136 00:09:19,770 --> 00:09:20,380 We're working. 137 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:21,160 Yes. 138 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:21,720 Linda Molder. 139 00:09:21,980 --> 00:09:22,560 Yes. 140 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:24,100 Yes. 141 00:09:24,100 --> 00:09:24,160 Yes. 142 00:09:24,220 --> 00:09:24,260 Yes. 143 00:09:24,260 --> 00:09:24,800 Motion passes. 144 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,260 So those motions one through five that were made. 145 00:09:31,260 --> 00:09:39,480 He's essentially just created the budget for 27 static to 26, with the exception to any 146 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:42,500 contractual obligations of the party that he committed. 147 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:49,400 So for those in the audience, the 27 budget is basically the same as the 26 budget 148 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:54,500 to the exception of any contract that it's been more obligated for any statutory increase. 149 00:09:54,500 --> 00:09:56,600 and disaster increases, et cetera. 150 00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:59,480 So anything from this point forward is a... 151 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:12,140 Modification or adjustment to that. There isn't a cross board raise or anything in there at this point in time, or anything else, it's basically what we're offering right now. 152 00:10:15,660 --> 00:10:20,360 So it's, I guess, now I guess anybody can do if they like. 153 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:24,120 Would that was? 154 00:10:24,380 --> 00:10:27,220 Is there anything else that the board was done? 155 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,240 Council wants to bring up at this time in the action? 156 00:10:32,980 --> 00:10:36,260 We will wish to have five to go. 157 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:40,720 Well, we could at this time you could do number six if you want. 158 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:45,600 We could have come to agree with a percentage, if we would agree to a percentage increase 159 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:47,340 for the open of discussion. 160 00:10:47,780 --> 00:10:49,140 But we don't have to do that today. 161 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:50,060 We don't have to do that today. 162 00:10:50,060 --> 00:10:50,740 We can do it the next meeting. 163 00:10:50,940 --> 00:10:54,360 We can continue to pull it through the budget, but for sure there's a lot of people here 164 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:55,120 with a lot of button. 165 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:55,820 And no problem. 166 00:10:55,820 --> 00:10:56,920 Yeah. 167 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:05,520 This is two states that are first reading. 168 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:06,240 Yeah. 169 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:08,660 Two states that are first reading on the budget. 170 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:11,860 And then we have. 171 00:11:12,100 --> 00:11:13,200 We have one more workshop. 172 00:11:13,420 --> 00:11:14,780 So two states first reading. 173 00:11:15,300 --> 00:11:18,800 Then we do have another workshop in October after the study sessions. 174 00:11:19,220 --> 00:11:22,920 And then the second reading is after our October meeting. 175 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,520 So we have a couple of opportunities to make two weeks. 176 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:30,860 If we don't have to look at it right now, I'm a president. 177 00:11:31,260 --> 00:11:31,320 Yes. 178 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:43,980 So a question, Scott, I know there are several taxing entities here that may have reclust outside 179 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:50,260 of general levy that they may already have funds for from other sources. 180 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:56,180 Is that dealt with here or because some of its statutory requirement that they have to approach 181 00:11:56,180 --> 00:12:01,020 Council for a group of all of me to on a budget to budget outside of their levy with other 182 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:06,740 revenues. So this was a focus on the entity of Lake County operations. 183 00:12:07,540 --> 00:12:13,880 When are we going to address some of those things with those? We can do it now. 184 00:12:15,220 --> 00:12:19,700 I can't. First reading there's your mace. Are you talking about like the fire? 185 00:12:21,740 --> 00:12:25,820 Anything that doesn't exist kind of within this government 186 00:12:25,820 --> 00:12:28,380 we're still tied to us, but to terrible. 187 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:31,240 Yeah, so we have Lake Ridge, fire, and solid waste, 188 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,100 Crown Point Library, and Crown Point Libraries here. 189 00:12:35,700 --> 00:12:38,840 So we can, you guys can have conversations about that now. 190 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:41,440 And have those discussions or a lot of times 191 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:43,820 we address those at the first reading and second reading? 192 00:12:44,020 --> 00:12:44,580 Right, okay. 193 00:12:45,020 --> 00:12:46,160 That's how we've done it in the past. 194 00:12:46,660 --> 00:12:49,160 It's okay, I just want to make sure that for folks 195 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,420 that showed up here, they know that we're not ignoring it. 196 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,400 That was request and it's not going to be kicked. 197 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:04,440 I'd like to have some discussion about a 3% across board pay raise for everyone. 198 00:13:04,820 --> 00:13:05,940 I'd like to talk about that. 199 00:13:06,100 --> 00:13:06,940 See where we are financially. 200 00:13:07,220 --> 00:13:11,640 See what the impact is on the budget if we were to pose 3% across the board for all employees 201 00:13:12,180 --> 00:13:14,540 that aren't excluded from the motions made. 202 00:13:15,180 --> 00:13:19,140 What that bottom line cost would be to us and whether or not we can pull it off this year. 203 00:13:19,860 --> 00:13:21,820 Or is it possible we can go higher? 204 00:13:22,100 --> 00:13:23,580 We have to go lower for that percentage. 205 00:13:23,580 --> 00:13:27,790 It's a good time to talk about it, is there any good any time? 206 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:29,560 Maybe a motion. 207 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:31,600 Or we have a discussion. 208 00:13:32,220 --> 00:13:33,600 I thought it was just simply discussion. 209 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:35,620 I didn't think I had a motion to discuss. 210 00:13:35,980 --> 00:13:36,780 It's correct me if I'm on. 211 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:40,360 During a budget jump, I could just propose a question. 212 00:13:41,340 --> 00:13:41,500 Yeah. 213 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:44,880 So I'd like to know what the impact would be at 3%. 214 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:49,880 And then that would allow my colleagues to decide whether we can afford that or whether we could go higher. 215 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:58,120 To keep it clean and easy, the way I look at it is every, the total payroll in the county is about a hundred million. 216 00:13:59,260 --> 00:14:01,780 So, every one percent is a million. 217 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:04,060 So, three percent would be three. 218 00:14:04,500 --> 00:14:07,220 Now, there's benefits and things like that associated with it. 219 00:14:07,240 --> 00:14:10,640 But just to keep a conversation, fluid and directional. 220 00:14:11,740 --> 00:14:12,860 That works. 221 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:23,000 Yeah, the overall growth portion for the county, you know, with all entities this year is 6%. 222 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:26,000 So that means the levy can go up by that much. 223 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:30,280 It doesn't mean you have to go up by that much, but also the levy is a smaller number compared to the budget. 224 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,220 We rely on so much, so many miscellaneous revenue. 225 00:14:33,740 --> 00:14:38,860 So I don't know if that's 6% would be a, you know, a great move. 226 00:14:39,740 --> 00:14:45,840 because we still have utility costs and insurance costs another correct there are other competing 227 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:53,540 interests we have we have bridge revenue that's going to take three million dollars so if you 228 00:14:53,540 --> 00:14:57,940 look at the seven percent on all of these ten million dollars so if you take three million away 229 00:14:57,940 --> 00:14:59,980 for bridges, 2 million for you. 230 00:15:14,090 --> 00:15:23,410 I would say I would say I would say flash, I would hit in budget. I know there are certain departments that 231 00:15:23,410 --> 00:15:28,290 are looking to give races. Maybe three percent even more. If we could look at how they're looking 232 00:15:28,290 --> 00:15:29,830 to do the offerings and whether they're looking 233 00:15:29,830 --> 00:15:32,030 to eliminate positions and incorporate it inside 234 00:15:32,030 --> 00:15:34,470 the overall and see what that number looks like. 235 00:15:35,170 --> 00:15:36,870 Definitely not against it. 236 00:15:37,170 --> 00:15:39,370 Just how did we get to that point there? 237 00:15:42,140 --> 00:15:42,640 Madam President. 238 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:47,280 Yes, I think we also need to look at what I mentioned 239 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:52,160 in the study session that Scott sent us some really excellent 240 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,580 analysis in this year's budget of those crosswalks, 241 00:15:55,740 --> 00:15:58,800 as you call them, where we're really able to kind of analyze 242 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:06,880 or to be approved that 26 budget, the adjustments that were made to that 26 budget, whether it be reorganizations or 243 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:15,880 additional appropriations or kind of salary changes midstream and create a real comparative model. 244 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:25,460 So I think we need to be detailed in this salary increase approach to actually include some of that. 245 00:16:25,460 --> 00:16:32,280 It's already occurred, because I mean, I know that we've all gotten the communication, I believe, 246 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:37,100 from the assessor's office about her request of reorganization, it creates a pretty substantial 247 00:16:37,100 --> 00:16:40,880 difference within that office that deserves some vetting. 248 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:45,260 And I know that there's some of that on the administrative side and some of our departments 249 00:16:45,260 --> 00:16:50,940 too, where the administrators are bumping themselves up quite a bit more than the rank 250 00:16:50,940 --> 00:16:56,740 file workers, so I think there's still a little more work to do on this than just a simple 251 00:16:56,740 --> 00:16:57,780 across the board. 252 00:16:57,780 --> 00:17:03,220 I agree with Ted's number is doable, but I think we've got some more details to 253 00:17:03,220 --> 00:17:03,760 walk through. 254 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:06,000 Yeah, and it's not to call out this. 255 00:17:06,300 --> 00:17:08,160 Because there's other offices as well. 256 00:17:09,020 --> 00:17:10,100 I don't think it's an example. 257 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:12,420 I'm sure we'll take it with more to work with. 258 00:17:12,540 --> 00:17:18,080 And I could address God to say make my motion at four, excluding those departments that 259 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:22,040 either in negotiations or in the midst of a re-arch. 260 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:24,180 And that went back that out. 261 00:17:24,220 --> 00:17:29,040 We can address those individuals concerns that you have, and it would make it, I think, 262 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:30,140 quicker for our next meeting. 263 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:31,560 We would have the numbers in front of us. 264 00:17:31,580 --> 00:17:32,620 And this is nothing permanent. 265 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:34,080 I wouldn't want to mislead anyone. 266 00:17:34,360 --> 00:17:37,080 That number in that percentage can change until the second reading. 267 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:43,680 But I wouldn't be willing to make a motion at 4% excluding those companies that are 268 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:48,060 those departments that are currently under contract negotiations or in the midst of 269 00:17:48,060 --> 00:17:54,040 of a re-org so we can address those to my colleague Randy to address his issues about 270 00:17:54,040 --> 00:18:01,740 someone getting a compound at race of 4% plus a 10% race because of the re-org so if that would 271 00:18:01,740 --> 00:18:05,660 be acceptable and then that gives us a little something more to look at, or is it make it harder 272 00:18:05,660 --> 00:18:06,900 on you to do that way? 273 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:13,720 I think no, I think that works, I think you could, I think you say here we'll do this cross 274 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:20,740 and then, that's whatever it gets, and then, if you have one off 275 00:18:20,740 --> 00:18:27,340 re-orbs that you want to address, then address them separately, if that makes it. 276 00:18:27,460 --> 00:18:30,800 So, at a minimum, everybody gets the, we'll see, say, it's 4%. 277 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:34,240 At a minimum, right now, there'd be a motion to give a cross-order reason 278 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:35,380 to 4%. 279 00:18:35,380 --> 00:18:41,660 Excluding CDAs, and then, and leave it at that, and then, that's what everybody gets. 280 00:18:41,660 --> 00:18:47,640 And then if someone wants to, you know, push through a reorder, where they eliminate a position, 281 00:18:47,900 --> 00:18:52,320 which is a number of them, there's a handful of departments that eliminate a position, 282 00:18:53,140 --> 00:18:56,700 and then decide to recast that salary across their department. 283 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:02,640 You guys can, you know, read that, look at the details and see if that makes sense. 284 00:19:03,300 --> 00:19:04,160 And then go from there. 285 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,680 So if either back out before, for certain given their reorder. 286 00:19:06,820 --> 00:19:07,000 Right. 287 00:19:07,220 --> 00:19:07,560 Exactly. 288 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:10,680 So it's not like double-do. 289 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:11,300 No, double-do. 290 00:19:11,300 --> 00:19:14,900 Yeah, you can handle each or one at a time. 291 00:19:15,200 --> 00:19:21,680 But I also think we need to go back into the 2026 budget and look at what's already been done, 292 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:26,400 where nobody got raises last year, but then somebody suddenly ended up getting raises. 293 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:27,260 So it's significant. 294 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:34,560 Yeah, it's a matter of I think we need to wait the current request in front of us, plus average 295 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:37,840 out some of the stuff that happened mid-year last year. 296 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:47,300 Yeah, because some other reorder, they do give significant reasons of both way above 4% or 10% or 10% or 15% I mean 297 00:19:47,300 --> 00:19:51,380 All right, I'm going to follow Scott's lead. I think this is a great plan. Man chair if I could please 298 00:19:51,380 --> 00:19:55,280 I'm going to make a motion to approve 4% paying increase with the 299 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:59,780 exception obviously of those folks covered by CBA that are currently in contract negotiation 300 00:20:00,140 --> 00:20:10,480 I'll second it. There's a motion and a second. Well, is there a further discussion? 301 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:19,120 Now with that, just to clarify, you know, and I know we're saying this, you know, because we could still change that. 302 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:25,820 But still, we still reserve the right to go back and kind of look at what some of the rewards are and how that will affect it. 303 00:20:27,940 --> 00:20:34,000 We don't have to look at any of yours and just give four percent across the board and leave it at that. 304 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,120 That's another comment, Madam President. 305 00:20:37,220 --> 00:20:45,280 I think that if you look at the last two budget cycles we've had a real focus on elimination of long-standing vacant positions. 306 00:20:46,420 --> 00:20:48,780 Some of the re-orders are addressing that. 307 00:20:48,780 --> 00:20:51,760 So our departments are kind of, in some cases, 308 00:20:51,940 --> 00:20:53,100 taking the bowl by the barns, 309 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,460 looking at more skilled and credential positions 310 00:20:56,940 --> 00:21:01,620 for measurable results, type, budgeting rather than, 311 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:03,120 well, that position's always been there, 312 00:21:03,180 --> 00:21:05,460 so we're gonna fund it and then we'll transfer it later. 313 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:07,460 So we're trying to eliminate that practice. 314 00:21:08,300 --> 00:21:12,840 So I think that continuing in that vein 315 00:21:13,520 --> 00:21:17,580 of still analyzing some longstanding vacant positions 316 00:21:17,580 --> 00:21:22,160 along with those reports, if they help us reach those goals, I think that's great. 317 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:25,960 With that said, anyone else have a comment? 318 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:32,360 Also, some departments have had those long standing vacant positions, 319 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,860 and it gives them the opportunity to do a re-ord, 320 00:21:35,900 --> 00:21:37,500 where some departments are smaller, 321 00:21:37,820 --> 00:21:41,460 and they don't have that opportunity either. 322 00:21:41,820 --> 00:21:44,380 They don't have vacant positions, because they're small departments, 323 00:21:44,580 --> 00:21:46,140 and they can't do those re-ord. 324 00:21:46,140 --> 00:21:52,060 So, some of those vacant positions have been around for quite a while, so I am... 325 00:21:52,060 --> 00:21:59,000 Just a smaller department, I think we've done a pretty good job, I think we took a little bit when we talked about veterans' offices and weeks and measures. 326 00:21:59,180 --> 00:22:02,620 We've addressed those individuals that are small. They don't have the means within. 327 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:10,140 But I don't want to discourage, we are going to discourage improvements for the employees just based on a few small companies. 328 00:22:10,140 --> 00:22:11,620 Our small boss. 329 00:22:11,620 --> 00:22:19,640 Yeah. I just like fairness. I like treating I think we can do it. Okay. Any other further discussion? 330 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:20,920 Rho call please. 331 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:22,360 Yes. 332 00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:23,480 Yes. 333 00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:24,280 Yes. 334 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:26,080 Yes. 335 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:27,720 Yes. 336 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:28,620 Most of passes. 337 00:22:29,120 --> 00:22:29,600 One absent. 338 00:22:30,900 --> 00:22:31,040 Okay. 339 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:32,860 We went to the last one. 340 00:22:32,980 --> 00:22:33,860 We got to do five. 341 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:35,800 We did five. 342 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:36,700 We did five. 343 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:37,060 We did five. 344 00:22:37,060 --> 00:22:37,600 We did five. 345 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:37,880 Yeah. 346 00:22:38,120 --> 00:22:38,360 Yeah. 347 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:40,520 Sorry. 348 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:41,500 I mean, I wasn't kidding. 349 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:43,100 That's all I know. 350 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,900 Madam Chairman, I'll make a motion to put the, 351 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:50,040 I don't place any remaining balance in reserve. 352 00:22:53,430 --> 00:22:54,670 So there was a second? 353 00:22:54,790 --> 00:22:55,130 Second. 354 00:22:55,270 --> 00:22:55,490 All right. 355 00:22:55,510 --> 00:22:56,790 I've just been made in seconded. 356 00:22:56,910 --> 00:22:57,510 Will help please. 357 00:22:57,930 --> 00:22:58,550 I'd rather discussion. 358 00:23:00,030 --> 00:23:00,090 No. 359 00:23:01,090 --> 00:23:01,490 Brewer. 360 00:23:01,790 --> 00:23:02,350 Yes. 361 00:23:02,350 --> 00:23:02,990 When will I? 362 00:23:03,190 --> 00:23:03,750 Yes. 363 00:23:04,650 --> 00:23:04,930 Yes. 364 00:23:05,790 --> 00:23:06,050 Yes. 365 00:23:06,330 --> 00:23:06,630 Yes. 366 00:23:07,530 --> 00:23:07,770 Yes. 367 00:23:08,010 --> 00:23:08,910 Motion cast is six. 368 00:23:09,210 --> 00:23:10,330 All right. 369 00:23:10,410 --> 00:23:11,050 Anything further? 370 00:23:11,050 --> 00:23:15,250 I just have a request now that we kind of have seeded this and put some of these 371 00:23:16,590 --> 00:23:17,970 motions into motion. 372 00:23:18,330 --> 00:23:20,330 Would you be able to send us an email scout? 373 00:23:20,590 --> 00:23:22,330 What this actually looks like now? 374 00:23:22,510 --> 00:23:26,050 So we can view it and kind of analyze it from there. 375 00:23:27,750 --> 00:23:30,230 So our next meeting is scheduled on Tuesday. 376 00:23:31,130 --> 00:23:31,870 First reading. 377 00:23:32,510 --> 00:23:37,490 I know Ray has sent out those ordinances, so please review them. 378 00:23:37,490 --> 00:23:43,170 I'm Chair, we wish everyone a happy Labor Day and motion to adjourn. 379 00:23:43,370 --> 00:23:44,990 I can wait for my next second. 380 00:23:45,350 --> 00:23:46,290 Motion passes please. 381 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:52,440 Thank you. 382 00:23:54,700 --> 00:23:56,660 Should I get the bill for you? 383 00:24:00,500 --> 00:24:01,620 Thank you. 384 00:24:04,060 --> 00:24:06,940 Oh, thanks for your support. 385 00:24:08,120 --> 00:24:09,880 James, James, James.