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Good afternoon. Call the city council and the redevelopment. Successor

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agency to order showing my agency. Council member Carroll. President.

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Council Member Tisdale, Council Member Monos. Here. Mayor Protown Sheridan.

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Here. Mayor Mickey. Here. Madam Clerk, do we have any

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requests to speak on closed session items? No, sir. Madam

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attorney, closed session announcements. Thank you, Mayor. City Council has

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four items. Two items of real property negotiation pursuant to

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government code section 54956. 8em 4. 1, the parcel numbers

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are identified. The negotiating parties are the city of Lake

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Elsinor and JMB land, LLC and Steve Galvez under negotiation,

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price in terms of payment. Item 4. 2 under the

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same authority, APNs are identified on the agenda. The negotiating

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parties or the city of Lake Elsinor and the property

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owner, Chin J Chen under negotiation price in terms of

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payment. We also have two items of existing litigation pursuant

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to paragraph 1D of section 54956. 9. The first case

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is DNS. And RS investment LLC versus the city of

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Lake Elsinor, the case number is on the agenda. The

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second item is the city of Lake Elsinor versus Harry

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E. Mitchell. And related parties in the case number is

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on the agenda. Thank you very much, Madam Attorney. Have

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you know their business in front of us? We're going

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to recess into closed session and then reconvene back here

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at seven o'clock.

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Good evening. Call the Lacosnore City Council meeting and successor

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agency to order. We all please rise and join me

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in the Pledge of Allegiance. Ready again.

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And to the Republic for which it stands one nation

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under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all these

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remains standing for a moment of silent prayer.

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Thank you. Madam Clerk, will you please call the

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role? Council Member Carroll. Present. Council Member Tisdale here. Council

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Member Monas. Here. Mayor Propertim Sheridan. Here. Mayor Mickey. Here.

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Madam Attorney closed session report, please. Thank you, Mayor. The

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city council met at five o'clock this evening to discuss

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four items in closed session. Two of them are concerning

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real property negotiations pursuant to government code section 54956. 9.

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Item 4. 1 identifies the parcels. The agency negotiator is

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city manager Simpson. The negotiating parties are the city and

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the owners of that property JMB land LLC and Steve

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Galvez under negotiation price in terms of payment. The second

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real property negotiation, item 4. 2, the parcels are identified

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on the agenda. Again, the city's negotiator is city manager

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Simpson. The negotiating parties are the city and the owner

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Chen Jin under negotiation, price in terms of payment. There's

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no reportable action on our real property negotiations this evening.

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Items 4. 3 and 4. 4 both involved existing litigation.

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Closed session was conducted pursuant to the authority of government

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code section 5495 6. 9 D1. The 4. 3, the

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name of the case DS and RS investment LLC versus

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the city of Lake Elsinor. The case numbers identified on

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the agenda. Our last item is the city of Lake

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Elsinor versus Harry E. Mitchell and related parties. The case

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number again identified on the agenda. There is no reportable

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action on those items either and that concludes my report.

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Thank you. Thank you very much. Madam Attorney. Next item

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on our agenda is a presentation from Cal Fire, but

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our chief was unable to join us this evening. So

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we're going to continue that item and tell another date

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when he can be here. And that will take us

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now to public comments on non - agenda items one

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minute in length. Madam Clerk, do we have any request

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to speak. Yes, I have two requests to speak. First

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is Leo Zoller.

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Naaman City of Residence for the record, please. Hi. My

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name is Leo Zoller. I live in the city of

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Wildemar. You guys might remember me from last year. I

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promise I'm not going to do anything like I did

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last year. But I'm just here to comment specifically on

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the contract for the demolition of the hotel at the

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front at the southern end of Main Street. I just

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have a poem. I wrote a couple of days ago.

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That's all I want to present to you guys. Goes

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like this. Whether by bond or bulldozer, the uprooting of

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trees and a ratio of history, God is displeased. No

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matter where, no matter how occupation destruction leads not but

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to foul. Yahweh, our God, Allah just the same shall

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not forgive the forsaken that which has been made. The

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supposed devout, those sworn to protect, have failed completely. The

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order defect. For us and our future, a choice looms

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ahead. Seed heaven on earth or have peace, land, and

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bread. Thank you. Thank you. Next speaker, Madam Clerk.

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I did also receive one from Michelle Campbell, but I'm

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not sure if she wants to speak on one minute

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or three minutes. Do you want to speak for one

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minute or for three minutes at the end of the

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meeting. Three minutes. To be. Okay. Then I do have

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a speaker on Zoom, Nick Fitch. Salcom, him in just

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a moment.

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Hello. Yes, we can hear you. You can go ahead.

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Okay, wonderful. My name is Nicholas Fitch. I'm a homeowner

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in like Alsinor. I'm speaking on the prospect of a

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data center being installed in our town. We're concerned heavily

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about the arise. Energy rates and water consumption over this

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proposed building. Uh, this is not only going to raise

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power costs for the individual citizen of like else north.

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For businesses. And potentially lower house values, which has us

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very nervous over the potential of this. Thank you. Thank

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you, sir. Does that conclude our speakers under this section?

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Yes, it is. Thank you, Madam Clerk. That moves us

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to our consent calendar. I am 12. 1 through 12.

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16. Madam Clerk, do we have any requests to speak

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on any of those items? Yes, I have two requests

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to speak. First is item 12. 6 and the other

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is 12. 7. Very good. What's the pleasure of the

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council. Move the balance. Have a motion. Can I get

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a second? A motion from Councilman Monos and a second

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from Mayor Protem Sheridan. Hearing no further discussion. Please record

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your vote.

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In the items past unanimously. Item 12. 6. Is an

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agreement for a demolition contract. Madam Clerk, would you please

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call the speaker. Yes, Ace Paletos.

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My name's Billy Holmes. I wanted to speak on this

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item I was going to request that the council postponed

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the demolition of that building. Considering they started on it.

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I think it was yesterday. Which seemed odd because the

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money or the appropriation for it is today. It seems

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kind of arbitrary. And it looks almost like a vendetta.

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It's quite frankly based on the fact that the property,

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the gear hard property, it's old to the Dream Center

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people. And then they had good intention and faith had

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gone with the city trying to get their, uh, their

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thing done there with this conditional use permit that the

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council finally denied after leading them to believe that they

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were going to get that. But anyways, I think that

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they need to be more discussion on it. And that's

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all I wanted to say. Thank you. Thank you. No

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other speakers on this item. No, sir. Madam attorney, you

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have a statement. I can give a brief staff reporting

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a little bit of background at the pleasure of the

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council. Um. The ambassador hotel has been a longstanding subject

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of health and safety code violations. There are at least

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65 identified substandard illegal and dangerous conditions. Those conditions led

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to the building being red tagged many years ago, meaning

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it's unsafe to occupy until the hazards are corrected. The

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city initiated code enforcement actions years and years ago. And

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eventually initiated litigation against the former owner who subsequently died

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in the property was tied up in probate for a

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long time. When the dream center purchased the property in

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2021, they were aware of these dangerous conditions and all

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of the building code violations. And they entered into a

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compliance agreement acknowledging those conditions agreeing to deadlines to remediate

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and repair those conditions and authorizing the city to seek

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court relief if the corrections were not timely made. As

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the new owner, the dream center stepped into that litigation.

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After five years of working with the dream center, there's

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been no remediation. The property has continued to decline. I

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think we have some photos if anyone wants to play

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those while we're, while I'm briefly, uh, reviewing this. So

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with, with no, uh, remediation in the building left to

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continue to decline, the city did seek court relief. And

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on July 21st, the Riverside superior court issued an order,

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finding the property a danger to health and safety, a

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public nuisance and ordered the city to immediately abate the

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nuisance or, in other words, to demolish the property. We

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initiated that process. Step one being entering into a contract

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to abate the asbestos that is on the property. On

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August 4th, the dream center again went to superior court

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action for the court to postpone the demolition the court

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rejected that application. And the city commenced asbestos abatement on

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August 6. So we worked August 6th and August 7th

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solely on espbestos abatement. Tonight's action relates to the demolition.

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So let me give you a quick update on where

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we are now. The dream center, uh, appealed the superior

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court's action. And the court of appeal Friday at 450

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is when we were notified did stay the demolition. So

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the city is not taking any additional action, uh, we

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will comply with the court of appeal. It's called a

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writ of supersedius. It means that, uh, we will not

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do anything until we get a green light from the

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courts. One thing that you, if anyone is in the

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vicinity, um, may see tomorrow is our asbestos abatement crew

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will be on the roof solely to cover it, to

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seal and protect the roof tiles so that they can't

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blow off or the, um, exposure to the asbestos. The

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issues with the dream center are two separate and distinct

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matters. No entity, no matter how good their cause, no

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matter how valuable the work they do or the people

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they serve is exempt from the law. This building is

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dangerous. This building has no seismic retrofit. This building is

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in, um, at risk of falling down. We will comply

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with the court order. This has absolutely nothing to do

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with the ownership of the building. It has nothing to

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do with an eventual land use or development proposal from

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the dream center. So we value the work that the

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dream center does, but the land issue is entirely separate

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and distinct from the nuisance abatement issue. So the action

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tonight, and we would recommend that the council proceed and

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approve the contract, the demolition was publicly bid. The recommendation

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is to award the contract to the lowest responsible bidder,

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the amount is 198, 000 dollars. No work, and I

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want to say this again. No work will be commenced

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pursuant to this demolition contract. Unless and until we get

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the green light or the order from the courts. Um,

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that concludes my statements unless the council has any questions.

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Because this is a matter of ongoing litigation. I have

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advised the council to limit their comments or not to

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speak other than to ask questions. Thank you very much,

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Madam Attorney. Any questions or comments for my colleagues? Councilman

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Monos. You know, I received a lot of comments on

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this from the public. Folks who are disappointed, sadden, upset.

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Um, and I just wanted to go ahead and share

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that. I think we feel the same way. Building's been

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red tagged since I was in high school. And it's

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a serious danger. Uh, to, and, and the other side

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of this is of course, if the building vertical collapse

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into crush a kid or some person, a member of

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the public. The other argument would be, why didn't the

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city do something about it? And that's the challenge. That's

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what we have to face. So don't like to be

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the bad guy. But there's many hands that this has

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passed through. And unfortunately, this is the path we're on

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right now. So I just wanted to put that out

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there. Thank you. Thank you, Councilman. Prepare to accept a

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motion. We have a motion from Council Member Carroll. Second

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from Mayor Protem Sheredon. Hearing no other comments. Please record

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your vote. And the item passes unanimously. It moves us

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now to item a 12. 7. This is food service

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and kitchen appliance purchases for the new city hall. Madam

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Clerk, would you please call the speaker? Yes. The speaker

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again is Ace Valleyhouse.

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Good evening. Mayor. I wanted to go ahead and bring

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this up because it seemed like a lot of money

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for a kitchen that you're going to put in the

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Taj Mahal. Team to me, my opinion, that, that money

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could be better spent on other things. There are people

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out here that, you know, have serious problems like, you

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know, the homelessness. And of course the building with this

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best is falling off of it into the street for

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all this time. And then now it's not, now it's

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a, now it's a problem. But anyways, I take a

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look at the, uh, military academy. And I sit there

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and think to myself, that's, you know, what's the difference

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between that and this building over here is that this

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building is between the gear heart property and city hall.

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But anyways, I wanted to go ahead and get back

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to the 147, I think that that's a lot of

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money. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Any other

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requests to speak. No, sir. Very good. What's the pleasure

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of the council. We have a motion from council member

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monos and a second. I believe from the mayor pro

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- Tem. From council member Carol.

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Having no other discussion items. Please record your vote.

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That motion passed you unanimously. Thank you very much, Madam

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Clerk. It takes snow to the successor agency consent calendar.

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Items 13 one through 13 three. Adam clerk. Do we

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have any requests to speak on these items? No, sir.

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Very good. What's the pleasure of the agency. We have

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a motion to approve from mayor pro - tempe Sheridan.

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And a second from Councilman Romanos. Hearing no further discussion.

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Please record your vote. And the items pass unanimously. Having

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no public hearings or business items in front of us

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this evening. We move quickly to public comments under non

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- agendaized items three minutes in length. Madam Clerk, who's

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our first speaker. Our perspeakers, Jeannie Corral.

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Good evening, Mr. Mayor. Honorable councilman. I am here all,

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so to speak about the prospect of the latest center.

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I've received a number of calls only because I've lived

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here since God was a boy, as you know. And

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so people seem to think I should have answers. I

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have told them I have no answers. But I do

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have questions. I have concerns about water pollution. And the

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amount of water that's such a center would take to

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operate the amount of nitrates that would go back to

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the water. And how it would be dispensed. And because.

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It's proposed in an area that's close to other residential

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places that could be subject to fire easily from the

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kinds of things that occur with generators in our heat,

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I would simply like to request that when you go

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through the Ciqua and EIRs and the recommendations that come,

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that you take a really fine look at all of

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the things that are being proposed. Because we have a

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data center in nearby riverside. And they're now 332 of

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them. I understand in the state of California alone. So

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I guess we ever generate a great deal of information.

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I'm not certain how it's going to be used. For

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us. Or against us. But our community is a community

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of caring people. That many of them moved here. For

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a high quality of life. I think most of you

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came here for that. And I know I'm not willing

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to allow AI to totally take over my life. Thank

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you.

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Thank you, Ms. Corral. Next speaker, please. Our next speaker

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is Adelia Libuzowski. I'm going to. Refer my time. Over

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the. Gene cleats. Yes, we don't defer time here. You

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can have three minutes and your friend can have three

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minutes. If maybe you just want to give us the

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subject matter and whether you're four or against it, please

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come to the, if you can. Okay. Thank you, ma'am.

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Okay. I also am against the center. My daughter and

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son - in - law live in Temecula. And she

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has a degree. In computers. And she made me aware

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of this. And she said, mommy really need to research

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this. About the heat from the generators. The millions of

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gallons of water. That will be put into this. We're

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short on water already. Uh, the grid overload. How would

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this affect our utility bills. Backup diesel generators emissions. Large

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facilities used backup generators. Air pollution diesel exhaust noise pollution

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increased energy. Generation and backup diesel testing emit. Particular matter.

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For those of us that are older. We can't breathe.

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It's going to make it worse. Infrastructure cost. For roads,

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water systems, electric. And other utility needs. It's also going

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to raise the temperature. We're already cooking. It can raise

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it at the least three percent. And Jamie says maybe

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up to 16. Everybody's going to be moving away. You

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know, we can't live. We can't pay our electric bill

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now. And, um, very few jobs are going to be

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generated from this. So I have to say thank you.

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Thank you for sharing your concern. Madam Clerk,

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how many more speakers do we have. 11 more. Fantastic.

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Perhaps if I could cut to the chase and take

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a moment of personal privilege. For those of you that

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are able, anyone in the audience who is opposed to

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the dead center, would you mind standing up and showing

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your disapproval. Very good. Now we'll continue with the speakers.

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Thank you. Our next speaker is Jamie Madden.

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Could. You mind if I set this here? Yes. Yes.

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Okay. Good evening. Mayor. Mayor. You scrub the microphone. There

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we go. Can you hear me now? Home can hear

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you too. All right. Good evening, Mayor. Mayor pro time

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and council members. My name is Jamie Madden and I

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want to be direct and insist that we follow our

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neighbors desert hot springs, Indio, Coachella Valley in passing a

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moratorium on data centers within Lake Elsinor and moved towards

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a complete ban in the future. The sales pitches from

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Data Center Community Relations Directors may seem enticing with their

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offers of jobs for locals. Um, infrastructure upgrades, philanthropic promises.

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However, the cost to the community and environment are not

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worth short - term promises that turn into long -

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term consequences. Any reasonable person committed to common sense knows

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that the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.

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The past, current and current behavior, excuse me, of hyperskille

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GPU data centers have shown that although they promise to

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be good neighbors, they just aren't. Before I list the

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experiences of Sister Cities throughout the nation and during real

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and egregious side effects of sharing their communities with resource

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parasites, I want to point out that Lake Elsinor is

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75 percent dependent on the import of the most vital

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resource, which is water. So according to the Ilsinor Valley,

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uh, municipal water district, only 25 percent of our water

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is derived locally. and the other 75 percent is derived

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from the Colorado River. Which if you haven't heard is

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itself at record lows. The situation is so dire that

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the federal government had to step in and decrease the

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entire state of California is allotment that will receive it

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here. I feel it's very impractical and irresponsible to stick

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another straw into an already shrinking cup. So circling back

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to the lived experiences of our fellow Americans. I just

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wanted to point out a couple experiences. So Eastern organ,

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which has a high cluster of Amazon data centers. Amazon

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was recently ordered to pay 20. 5 million to 45,

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000 residents after contaminating drinking water with high levels of

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nitrates. Hood County, Texas residents are complaining of 24 hour

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high intensity machine noise. Fayetteville, Georgia, BlackRock data center had

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two illegal hookups that was unknown to the water utility

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in which they siphoned away 44 Olympic size pools worth

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of water away from the citizens. And that area is

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already experiencing a drought. Um, in Lake Tahoe, 50, 000

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residents were told they'd have to find other means of

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electricity as the data center, 75 miles away. Had priority

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over the energy. So that's a big radius, right? Um,

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Cheyenne, Wyoming, the meta AI data center, project Cosmo contaminated.

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The city's wastewater, uh, with multi - drug resistant organisms.

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That water was sprayed on. Part grass. Um, Wisconsin, additional

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power lines needed to, I'm sorry, that's my wrap it

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up. Okay. So I just would like to close with,

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um, when the last tree is cut, last fish is

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caught and their last rivers and the river is polluted.

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When to breathe the air is sickening, you will realize

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too late that wealth is not in bank accounts and

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that you can't eat money. Thank you very much.

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Next speaker, please. Our next speaker is Isaiah Kunya.

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Good afternoon, City Council. I come here today to hopefully

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clear your guys'ear palettes from all this talk and concerns

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about the data center. In which I oppose to as

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well. But I'm here to talk about the bigger picture.

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So if we may think back to the Lake Alicenor

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general plan for new Elsinor, I feel as, this is

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where a lot of confusions come from as citizens. I

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was reviewing the GPU and I found a few map

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and graph correction change that needed to be changed. These

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will be at no cost and will save our city

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from future lawsuits. I had sent out an email onto

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live 15 and have not had any answers since. So

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I come today to illuminate these topics for you guys.

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One of my main concerns was the wash. The wash

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was being severed from. Specific area, I believed. And the

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wash was not being connected coming down from. Horse Steve

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to the end of. Nicholas where the wash comes out.

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Um, we all know that that is a great concern

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for floods. And it's just simply, um, a map and

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graph correction. Oh, you see, see map configuration goes against

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LUCC2. Where you say the floatway was marked as NA

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hitting, which is required a bridge if it is being

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severed. Let's see.

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Basically. What I found was needed correction. If you guys

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adopt these wrong, there would be up for lawsuits and

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they could sue and win, which we know that could

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cost a city about 500K per. I had came to

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the planning department already. In regards of these topics. Um,

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on July 15. So I asked that if you guys

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consider my concern as soon as possible respectfully. For the

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GPU adoption, which this is a council action. So I'm

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asking counsel to direct staff per gov code 6300. I

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ask for, for inwriting as soon as possible. So it's

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not missed before the adoption. Isaiah, our community development director,

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Ms. Demary Abraham is right there. If you will get

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her business card in exchange information, that'll be your next

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step. Thank you so much. Thank you, sir. Next speaker,

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please. Our next speakers. Then y'all go King.

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Hello, good evening. I am speaking. I'm speaking today in

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regards to the Elsinor Heights Industrial Project, planning application number

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2023 - 35. That is being planned to occupy 61.

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02 acres of Lake Elsinor's lands. I am an inland

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empire born resident and currently residing neighboring of the project

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being planned in Lake Elsinor. It is now August six

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months since the NOP and there have been no public

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updates revealing the future steps of this project. I ask

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that the environmental review clearly identify and evaluates the potentially

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significant impacts associated with each proposed project option, including the

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differences and impacts between the alternatives. I also ask that

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the city provides residents with an update regarding the anticipated

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timeline for the draft EIR. And if the applicant and

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city have considered any of the options proposed. We have

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seen in real time that devastation's data centers have caused

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countrywide to natural life and the depletion of resources that

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are taking from residents. And wildlife alike. The consequences far

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outweigh the benefits of building allowed invasive and water hoarding

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data center. Just to be clear, I do not want

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a data center being built in my town. Police consider

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my comment as a resident speaking to you out of

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many concerned residents in the area that are part of

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the demographic, this project will be directly harming and depleting

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resources from. Thank you for your time. Thank you.

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Next speaker, please. Our next speaker is Orcadia Wilcox. Good

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evening. I'm a resident of Domisco Valley. So I'm a

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neighbor and I will be affected if we have a

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data center here. So I'm against that proposal. And I

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would like to remind you of your responsibility what decisions

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you're going to make only will affect Lake Calcinor, the

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city, but all this running areas. Normally now, but for

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the future. And in your, um, Dream Extreme or your,

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you know, aspirations, you have the aspiration number one to

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be a destination here for sports and for healthy activities.

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Well, that would not happen if the temperature rises and

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the water in farms and the environment. And you hurt

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all that. And I'm sure us responsible decision makers. You

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have probably already researched. So that will be going against

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what your aspirations are. Also your aspiration number two grow

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up by variant and active city. Well, you're not going

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to have many members left. For that. And number three,

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foster, we're natural resources. You, if you accept a proposal,

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we're having that data center. You're going to be going

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directly against your aspiration number three. And this city is

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not going to have any, any dreams or any future

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because you will be killing it. And, um, you know,

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as I know, maybe I work generation, things this is

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not horrible, but our younger generations would like to have

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a healthy environment to live in. So, you know, we

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pass over the hour, you know, better half, but we

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need to think of the future generations. And we need

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to make good choices for them. We live in the

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disser. We can now bring a project that will be

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wasting our drinking water. And you probably know that you

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can go about three minutes without oxygen. You can go,

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you know, probably about three days without water, but you

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can go all your life without deficient intelligence. Thank you.

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Thank you. Next speaker, Madam Cleric. Our next speaker is

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Brianna Wilcox. Swillcocks. Evening city council. My friend and Wilcox.

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I'm a former science teacher, current small business owner and

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farming apprentice in the inland empire. I'm here with similar

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concerns about proposed AI data center. I'm sure you've heard,

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but I like to reiterate and put it on the

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record of what could happen if we consider proposal. I

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also want to propose an alternate a complete and permanent

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02:19:01,711 --> 02:19:05,130
ban on all data centers in similar infrastructure projects for

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the city of Lake Elsinor. So you know, you've read

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02:19:10,832 --> 02:19:12,552
how it spends the water. Um, I don't know if

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02:19:12,552 --> 02:19:15,072
you've heard that it literally dropped the water table and

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02:19:15,072 --> 02:19:19,232
it's dropped the water pressure in residence in Georgia, Utah,

481
02:19:19,232 --> 02:19:22,377
Oregon. Also, but when I make claims, I'm happy to

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02:19:22,398 --> 02:19:24,937
share my sources with you, the studies that were done,

483
02:19:24,937 --> 02:19:26,857
the research and the journalism that's been done on this.

484
02:19:26,857 --> 02:19:29,257
So I'm not just making things up, I promise. Uh,

485
02:19:29,278 --> 02:19:31,177
let me know and I'm happy to email these sources

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02:19:31,358 --> 02:19:35,760
to you as well. Um, it also irreparably pollutes the

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02:19:35,800 --> 02:19:38,960
water with no efforts made and no incentive to clean

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02:19:39,061 --> 02:19:42,960
that water used. It drains the grid so much they

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02:19:43,061 --> 02:19:45,840
can't rely on the grid themselves on average. They rely

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02:19:45,880 --> 02:19:49,600
on diesel backup generators to keep themselves going 24 seven

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02:19:49,941 --> 02:19:52,640
because they know they drain our electrical grid. We are

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02:19:52,741 --> 02:19:56,480
already experiencing rolling blackouts and brownouts in Southern California in

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02:19:56,480 --> 02:19:59,760
the summer. We, at least in Riverside where I've had

494
02:20:00,101 --> 02:20:04,237
experienced blackouts and brownouts. I'm not sure that like Elsiednor

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02:20:04,277 --> 02:20:06,237
can handle a drain of hundreds of thousands of homes

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02:20:06,418 --> 02:20:09,721
worth of electrical use. If this proposal is accepted or

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02:20:09,742 --> 02:20:14,869
even entertained. Um, they also, these companies, these private corporations

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02:20:14,890 --> 02:20:18,229
love to fois the cost of operation onto the taxpayer.

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02:20:19,167 --> 02:20:21,146
As a small business owner, I have the understanding that

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if you as a company cannot support yourself through your

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02:20:25,066 --> 02:20:28,106
own practices and you refuse to make any changes to

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02:20:28,146 --> 02:20:31,606
make yourself self - sustainable and the economic sense, you

503
02:20:31,606 --> 02:20:34,480
don't deserve to exist. You're not going to force cost

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02:20:34,480 --> 02:20:38,320
of operation onto taxpayers onto city government. They have made

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02:20:38,320 --> 02:20:40,600
promises before in other cities of this is going to

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02:20:40,600 --> 02:20:44,240
be a no cost project. But then that means schools

507
02:20:44,501 --> 02:20:48,240
lose their funding. Roads don't get taken care of. Public

508
02:20:48,421 --> 02:20:52,960
infrastructure projects for the public. Somehow don't have money anymore

509
02:20:53,621 --> 02:20:56,560
because they made tax breaks. They made incentives to the

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02:20:56,821 --> 02:21:00,781
data center corporation instead. That's not no cost. The money

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02:21:00,882 --> 02:21:03,581
comes from somewhere. They're not going to provide it and

512
02:21:03,621 --> 02:21:05,581
they're going to try to leech it from the people

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02:21:05,602 --> 02:21:10,032
here. So it's losing proposition. Um, on average, major deals

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02:21:10,293 --> 02:21:13,792
cost a taxpayer two million dollars per job generated. That's

515
02:21:13,792 --> 02:21:16,672
not even necessarily permanent or come with benefits. You guys

516
02:21:16,712 --> 02:21:19,152
are better job providers than any data center could be.

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02:21:19,866 --> 02:21:25,343
Just seeing. It's more cost effective too. I also provide

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02:21:25,364 --> 02:21:27,183
sources. Just let me know and I'll email it to

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02:21:27,183 --> 02:21:33,794
you. Um. The 24 seven light pollution. People can't sleep.

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02:21:34,371 --> 02:21:37,070
With her anywhere near a data center. The 24 seven

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02:21:37,251 --> 02:21:40,090
noise pollution from all the cool, the chill fans, the

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02:21:40,090 --> 02:21:44,063
coolers, the backup generators is also a 24 seven. So

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02:21:45,524 --> 02:21:48,143
I'm just saying a vote for data center is a

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02:21:48,143 --> 02:21:52,215
vote for people to die. From heat stroke, heat stress,

525
02:21:52,236 --> 02:21:56,055
lack of sleep, air pollution, water pollution soil pollution. I

526
02:21:56,316 --> 02:21:59,495
know you are all responsible people, kind people. I normally

527
02:21:59,495 --> 02:22:02,528
make the right decision. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

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02:22:02,528 --> 02:22:11,909
Thank you. Next speaker, please. Our next speaker is Susan

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02:22:11,949 --> 02:22:12,949
Levitt and Methys Hopper.

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Good evening Mayor McGee and mayor protum Sheredan and members

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02:22:31,070 --> 02:22:34,387
of the city council. I'm here this evening with Susan

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02:22:34,408 --> 02:22:37,347
Lovett and fellow members of the Church of Jesus Christ

533
02:22:37,688 --> 02:22:40,227
of Latter - day Saints from Lake Elnor to present

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02:22:40,728 --> 02:22:45,987
a commemorative proclamation recognizing the 250th anniversary of the Declaration

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02:22:45,987 --> 02:22:51,027
of Independence. As we celebrate this important milestone in our

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02:22:51,027 --> 02:22:54,147
nation's history, we do so with gratitude for the freedoms

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02:22:54,187 --> 02:22:58,972
we enjoy, especially the freedom of religion. And the opportunity

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02:22:59,012 --> 02:23:04,475
to serve our communities. We are grateful to live, work,

539
02:23:04,496 --> 02:23:09,385
worship, and raise our families in this wonderful community. Let

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02:23:09,385 --> 02:23:12,609
me read a part of the proclamation to you. You

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02:23:12,609 --> 02:23:15,468
can do it. From there. It's easier. It's kind of.

542
02:23:16,042 --> 02:23:22,002
Small. Whereas the year 2026 marks the 250th anniversary of

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02:23:22,023 --> 02:23:25,202
the founding of the United States of America. A nation

544
02:23:25,783 --> 02:23:30,802
established upon principles of liberty, justice, representative government, and the

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02:23:30,823 --> 02:23:34,397
God - given rights of all people. And whereas Jesus

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02:23:34,498 --> 02:23:38,637
Christ taught in John chapter 8, verse 32, ye shall

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02:23:38,677 --> 02:23:41,037
know the truth. And the truth shall make you free.

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02:23:42,149 --> 02:23:46,448
Reminding us all that liberty flourishes when founded upon truth,

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02:23:46,448 --> 02:23:48,448
virtue, and respect for the God - given rights of

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02:23:48,448 --> 02:23:52,092
all people. On behalf of our church, it is an

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02:23:52,113 --> 02:23:55,852
honor to present this proclamation to the city of Lake

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02:23:55,892 --> 02:24:00,158
Ilsinor. Thank you for your service to our community and

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02:24:00,158 --> 02:24:02,398
for allowing us to be here this evening. Thank you.

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02:24:04,431 --> 02:24:07,610
Colleagues, would you mind coming down and taking a photo

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02:24:07,650 --> 02:24:08,410
with these folks?

556
02:24:45,054 --> 02:24:48,159
One, two. Three. We're going to do one more. One,

557
02:24:48,159 --> 02:24:50,008
two. Three. Thank you very much.

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02:25:02,406 --> 02:25:04,010
Oh, he's. Like, I'll take it.

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02:25:22,974 --> 02:25:26,313
Madam Clerk, next speaker, please. Our next speaker is Francis

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02:25:26,353 --> 02:25:31,261
Mirabella. Hello, I'm Francis Mirabella. I work in Lake Elstner,

561
02:25:31,261 --> 02:25:33,821
a resident of Lake Elsinor grew up in Lake Alsinor,

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02:25:33,821 --> 02:25:40,160
class of 94, Steve Monos. You know. I'm here just

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02:25:40,160 --> 02:25:43,840
to discuss inner Heights Industrial Project. Option two data center

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02:25:44,181 --> 02:25:47,037
currently in the SEQA process. Um, I'm sure you know

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02:25:47,138 --> 02:25:51,837
of the change. org petition circulating that has over 7,

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02:25:51,837 --> 02:25:55,346
000 votes. Which is a substantial indication of resident opposition.

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02:25:57,850 --> 02:26:00,309
I'm here tonight with a very simple request, and that's

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02:26:00,309 --> 02:26:03,886
just to keep the existing zoning as is. Deny zone

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change number 2024 Dajo 1. And general amendment plan number

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02:26:08,841 --> 02:26:13,380
2024 01. According to the notice of preparation, this property

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02:26:13,380 --> 02:26:17,220
is currently zoned for commercial office and rural mountainous residential.

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02:26:17,531 --> 02:26:20,790
The applicant is asking the city to change the portions

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02:26:20,830 --> 02:26:25,030
of it to M1 limited manufacturing for this industrial development,

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which is under option two, which includes a data center.

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02:26:27,990 --> 02:26:32,275
So my question is simple. Why change the zoning. Our

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02:26:32,315 --> 02:26:35,440
existing zoning already provides a protection we need. We do

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02:26:35,480 --> 02:26:38,800
not need to make legal snore experiment when communities across

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02:26:38,821 --> 02:26:41,760
the country already showing us what can happen when large

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02:26:41,800 --> 02:26:47,275
data centers are located near residents. There's stories, just Google

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02:26:47,315 --> 02:26:54,686
it. Chandler, Arizona, Vinland, New Jersey. Michigan, Laoul, Massachusetts. Gilroy,

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02:26:54,686 --> 02:27:00,286
California, surrounding a large Amazon data center has raised serious

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02:27:00,307 --> 02:27:03,566
questions about public awareness, land use approvals and community involvement.

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02:27:04,051 --> 02:27:08,403
These communities are giving Lakelsonor warning. We should learn from

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02:27:08,443 --> 02:27:13,429
them. These concerns go far beyond noise. They American lung

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02:27:13,469 --> 02:27:17,429
association now specifically identifies data centers and increasing air pollution

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02:27:17,450 --> 02:27:21,269
concern and warns that the air pollution can trigger asthma

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02:27:21,309 --> 02:27:26,319
attacks and other health effects. Um, there's also concerns about

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02:27:26,580 --> 02:27:32,319
enormous electricity demand, increased infrastructure needs, water consumption during drought

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02:27:32,319 --> 02:27:37,752
conditions. Wastewater heat nighttime lighting, light pollution, wildlife impacts and

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02:27:37,752 --> 02:27:41,832
the quality of life of nearby residents. Artificial nighttime lighting

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02:27:41,872 --> 02:27:46,152
can disrupt sleep and interfere with wildlife and migratory birds.

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02:27:46,152 --> 02:27:48,792
And data centers generate substantial heat. That must be continuously

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02:27:48,893 --> 02:27:52,712
removed through cooling systems. We should be asking why would

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02:27:52,752 --> 02:27:56,392
we voluntary add such large demands on our water and

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02:27:56,432 --> 02:28:01,512
electrical systems when residents already care deeply about drought preparedness,

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02:28:01,512 --> 02:28:05,843
reliability, electricity, reliable electricity and affordable utilities. But here is

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02:28:05,883 --> 02:28:10,433
more important point. The applicant is requesting a conditional use

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02:28:10,454 --> 02:28:16,833
permit M1 uses would within 100 feet of residential district.

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02:28:16,833 --> 02:28:19,633
Why would we change a commercial office and rural mountainous

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02:28:19,654 --> 02:28:22,913
residential zoning to manufacturing and then need a special permit

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02:28:23,414 --> 02:28:26,353
because that manufacturing use is so close to residential property.

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02:28:27,317 --> 02:28:31,159
We don't need to. I understand the EIR process, but

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02:28:31,159 --> 02:28:34,059
an EIR does not require this council to prove a

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02:28:34,059 --> 02:28:38,363
zone change. So my point is just keep it simple.

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If this project does not fit the zoning that exists

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02:28:41,555 --> 02:28:44,875
today, then the city should not change the community and

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02:28:44,875 --> 02:28:48,680
make the profit fit. There's no reason to remove that

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02:28:48,701 --> 02:28:53,045
protection. Create the possibility of these, uh, create the possibilities

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02:28:53,085 --> 02:28:57,525
these impacts and then spend years debating how to mitigate

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02:28:57,525 --> 02:29:00,219
them. Thank you. Thank you.

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02:29:08,369 --> 02:29:14,677
Next speaker, please. Our next speaker is Michelle Campbell. Good

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02:29:14,698 --> 02:29:18,480
evening Mayor City Council members. Thank you so much for

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02:29:18,501 --> 02:29:21,120
having me. My name is Michelle Campbell. I'm a resident

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02:29:21,120 --> 02:29:23,517
of Lake Elseded. I lived here almost 15 years. I

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02:29:23,538 --> 02:29:27,357
love this city. I moved away from LA and Long

616
02:29:27,378 --> 02:29:29,682
Beach. So I could be in a rural community. I

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02:29:29,703 --> 02:29:33,202
have horse property. I love our land. The specific area

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02:29:33,543 --> 02:29:36,882
where this data center proposal is going to be is

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02:29:36,922 --> 02:29:39,362
one of the most beautiful little areas. And I love

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02:29:39,463 --> 02:29:42,082
driving by that area. And I always envisioned it being

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02:29:42,343 --> 02:29:44,870
a park. And when I found out that it's going

622
02:29:44,870 --> 02:29:46,790
to be an industrial center, I'm like, why would we

623
02:29:46,830 --> 02:29:49,556
need that right here? We don't need any more Amazon

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02:29:49,897 --> 02:29:52,416
buildings. We don't need any more AI data centers. And

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02:29:52,416 --> 02:29:54,036
I don't know if I can address the people of

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02:29:54,137 --> 02:29:56,916
Lake Elsiednor, but my message to the people of Lake

627
02:29:56,956 --> 02:30:01,927
Elsinor is use less AI. Stop streaming. Stop buying stuff

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02:30:01,927 --> 02:30:05,367
on Amazon. You are making the situation worse. We don't

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02:30:05,628 --> 02:30:09,027
need artificial intelligence to take over our city. If you

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02:30:09,027 --> 02:30:12,947
don't want a data center here, don't use data. Use

631
02:30:12,968 --> 02:30:16,207
less data. Don't stream. Don't watch YouTube. Don't TikTok. How

632
02:30:16,207 --> 02:30:19,667
many videos do we need of people's dogs on Facebook?

633
02:30:19,667 --> 02:30:21,907
Okay. No more TikTok, no more. We have to get

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02:30:22,008 --> 02:30:23,827
serious. This is the way the future. It's like saying

635
02:30:23,848 --> 02:30:26,267
I don't like Teslas. Let's get rid of roads. I

636
02:30:26,267 --> 02:30:28,547
saw that. And I'm like, that is so brilliant. We

637
02:30:28,968 --> 02:30:30,867
want to use the computer, but we don't want to

638
02:30:31,048 --> 02:30:34,817
pay to have it running. And I do not want

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02:30:34,998 --> 02:30:36,817
a data center. And like Ilsinor. When I found this

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02:30:36,838 --> 02:30:39,777
out, my head almost blew right off. I'm like, that

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02:30:39,777 --> 02:30:44,177
can't be. There's millions of miles elsewhere. Why pick like

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02:30:44,198 --> 02:30:46,657
Kelsonor? This is the dream place. This is where you

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02:30:46,697 --> 02:30:48,977
come to buy a home. Will you raise a family?

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02:30:48,977 --> 02:30:51,697
We don't need a data center behind Walmart making all

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02:30:51,697 --> 02:30:54,897
kinds of noise, disrupting our wildlife. Everyone in this room

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02:30:55,158 --> 02:30:57,977
had, excuse me, had such great things to say, I

647
02:30:57,977 --> 02:30:59,777
don't even need to echo anything else of why we

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02:30:59,777 --> 02:31:03,297
don't need it. All the data sounds reasonable. And I

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02:31:03,297 --> 02:31:06,637
know you are reasonable adults that make excellent decisions. You

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02:31:06,637 --> 02:31:09,297
were voted in by the people. And I just urge

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02:31:09,297 --> 02:31:13,417
you to say no, to not change the ordinance, to

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02:31:13,417 --> 02:31:15,697
do not change the zoning, to leave it the way

653
02:31:15,697 --> 02:31:18,097
it is and think about the people of like, else.

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02:31:18,198 --> 02:31:20,657
Let's make it a park. Let's make it anything else.

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02:31:20,657 --> 02:31:22,417
I know it's owned by someone else and you guys

656
02:31:22,417 --> 02:31:25,057
aren't the decision makers, but enough money you could buy

657
02:31:25,097 --> 02:31:27,416
anything. So let's just buy it from this owner and

658
02:31:27,456 --> 02:31:31,439
make it a like, else or dream extreme. Thank you.

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02:31:38,676 --> 02:31:48,049
Next speaker, please. Our next speaker is Daniel Miller. Can

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02:31:48,049 --> 02:31:51,584
you, sorry, good evening. My name is Daniel Miller. I've

661
02:31:51,584 --> 02:31:54,704
moved her in 2008 of October. I want to talk

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02:31:54,744 --> 02:31:57,184
to you about the data centers in China. They have

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02:31:57,685 --> 02:32:02,080
437. They're advanced further along than we are. It's a

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02:32:02,080 --> 02:32:04,400
digital currency over there. You have to use your phone

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02:32:04,501 --> 02:32:08,400
if you go anywhere. They have flock cameras everywhere to

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02:32:08,440 --> 02:32:13,040
watch everybody. They only have 437 data centers to control

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02:32:13,141 --> 02:32:17,370
their whole population. U. S. is planning on having 8,

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02:32:17,370 --> 02:32:20,823
000 data centers. It sounds like a little overkill. So

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02:32:20,823 --> 02:32:23,823
what are the real reasons? Take a logical step back.

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02:32:23,924 --> 02:32:26,223
What do they really use in the data centers for?

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02:32:26,223 --> 02:32:29,183
It's not to track us. It's something else. Some people

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02:32:29,764 --> 02:32:33,023
are suggesting like in other nations. They're saying it's underground

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02:32:33,044 --> 02:32:35,963
bunkers and cities for the elite. I don't know. But

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02:32:36,564 --> 02:32:39,663
over 8, 000 in the United States is an overkill.

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02:32:39,663 --> 02:32:42,383
And it's like the one person talked about the aid

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02:32:42,404 --> 02:32:45,583
states, the Western states, the federal government stepped in the

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02:32:45,604 --> 02:32:49,343
Colorado River is lower than normal. They're not allowed to

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02:32:49,383 --> 02:32:52,783
make or they're not making as much electricity because of

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02:32:52,783 --> 02:32:55,863
less water. And they're figuring out how they're going to

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02:32:55,863 --> 02:32:58,863
ration the water to us aid state states. And that's

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02:32:59,044 --> 02:33:02,863
without the data centers. And China, they've built their dating

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02:33:02,903 --> 02:33:05,583
centers not where the people are at, but where the

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02:33:05,623 --> 02:33:08,543
cold climates are out. Because in a colder climate, they

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02:33:08,543 --> 02:33:12,703
don't need as much as much water. And it also

685
02:33:12,703 --> 02:33:15,823
cuts back on the electricity. Because if they're running cooler,

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02:33:15,844 --> 02:33:21,083
it takes less electricity. Ask your question. Ask logically, why

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02:33:21,083 --> 02:33:23,423
do they want to build a data center and a

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02:33:23,524 --> 02:33:27,903
hot, dry climate? I'm a business person. I wouldn't build

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02:33:28,004 --> 02:33:29,983
it there knowing it's going to cost me more money

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02:33:30,324 --> 02:33:33,403
to run it. I would build it somewhere else. All

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02:33:33,403 --> 02:33:37,983
of us have called customer service at some company were

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02:33:37,983 --> 02:33:41,103
connected to. And someone answers a phone as an india

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02:33:41,604 --> 02:33:44,783
or in the Philippines. And they have our account. They

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02:33:44,783 --> 02:33:47,503
have everything there right in front of them. So needing

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02:33:47,604 --> 02:33:50,383
a data center right where the people at. That's a

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02:33:50,423 --> 02:33:53,183
lie that they're what they're telling you. And you look

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02:33:53,183 --> 02:33:56,303
across all the other cities that have signed these contracts.

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02:33:56,303 --> 02:33:59,983
They make you sign a non - disclosure contract. That

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02:33:59,983 --> 02:34:02,143
means you sign it, read the people don't know what

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02:34:02,164 --> 02:34:06,329
you signed away. Why are they keeping it secret. If

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02:34:06,369 --> 02:34:09,849
it's just a data center for computers and all that,

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02:34:09,849 --> 02:34:14,145
why is it hidden knowledge. And the fact is hearing

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02:34:14,185 --> 02:34:17,745
California in the last six years, our governor has closed

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02:34:17,846 --> 02:34:21,425
down over a million acres of farms in Northern California

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02:34:21,926 --> 02:34:24,385
to pull the water to use it for the data

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02:34:24,425 --> 02:34:27,185
centers up there. Because the data center is for Google

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02:34:27,446 --> 02:34:30,785
and all the other big tech companies. They pay a

708
02:34:30,785 --> 02:34:34,385
lot more taxes because they're millionaires. So they've closed down

709
02:34:34,726 --> 02:34:38,385
food production in California for data centers. Three of those

710
02:34:38,486 --> 02:34:41,585
farms that were closed down were in the families that

711
02:34:41,606 --> 02:34:47,182
were in California before California was estate. They had the

712
02:34:47,182 --> 02:34:50,462
clothes down their farms. It started with Governor Brown. They

713
02:34:50,462 --> 02:34:52,302
went in there on their wheels. They put meters on

714
02:34:52,342 --> 02:34:58,271
their wells with charge them for their water. I see

715
02:34:58,271 --> 02:35:06,331
my time is up. I'll close. The, oh, again, I'm

716
02:35:06,371 --> 02:35:09,828
a water that she had talked about in Colorado. The

717
02:35:10,009 --> 02:35:12,548
data center they have planned here is equivalent for about

718
02:35:12,809 --> 02:35:16,148
25, 000 homes. They will tell you that they recycle

719
02:35:16,148 --> 02:35:19,188
the water. And the other person pointed out the chemicals

720
02:35:19,228 --> 02:35:22,148
they put in there. They can't dump in the sewer.

721
02:35:22,148 --> 02:35:25,508
There's no filtering system. The polos chemicals out. When they

722
02:35:25,508 --> 02:35:28,548
dump it into the ground, it kills the water wells

723
02:35:28,569 --> 02:35:32,148
and it kills the farmers'ability to use it. And like

724
02:35:32,169 --> 02:35:36,468
Ilsinor, you have under 100, 000 homes with Lake Elan

725
02:35:36,489 --> 02:35:39,508
village. Now you're going to add another 25, 000 for

726
02:35:39,548 --> 02:35:46,471
water and about 248, 000 for the electricity drawn. How

727
02:35:46,471 --> 02:35:49,111
do you step back and look at the infrastructure? Mr.

728
02:35:49,132 --> 02:35:50,551
Miller. Thank you. Thank you.

729
02:35:59,447 --> 02:36:01,986
Next speaker, please. Our next speaker is Ace Vallejo.

730
02:36:13,129 --> 02:36:15,508
Hello, Mayor. Wanted to go ahead and continue with this

731
02:36:16,489 --> 02:36:21,405
asbestos issue at the, uh, ambassador tale. If it was

732
02:36:21,445 --> 02:36:24,505
there yesterday, it was probably their last month in the

733
02:36:24,505 --> 02:36:26,685
month before that and a year before that and so

734
02:36:26,725 --> 02:36:30,605
forth. Things would hold true for the, uh, military academy

735
02:36:30,626 --> 02:36:34,605
that's been sitting there all these years. So it looks

736
02:36:34,605 --> 02:36:38,445
like an arbitrary attack on the dream center to me.

737
02:36:38,485 --> 02:36:41,405
In my opinion. And I believe that. I see it.

738
02:36:42,158 --> 02:36:45,411
Don't like it. It's wrong. And the gear hard property

739
02:36:45,592 --> 02:36:50,211
that got sold under the city that also wanted it.

740
02:36:51,342 --> 02:36:53,321
Is, I believe one of the main reasons that we're

741
02:36:53,361 --> 02:37:01,388
here. So thank you. Next speaker, please. And the last

742
02:37:01,428 --> 02:37:02,988
weeker I have is Reuben via mill.

743
02:37:17,721 --> 02:37:21,220
Boards. Uh, I'm a seven year veteran of the U.

744
02:37:21,220 --> 02:37:24,180
S. Navy. All my buddies are currently on the USS

745
02:37:24,220 --> 02:37:28,904
Abraham Lincoln. And I don't want a data center. And

746
02:37:28,925 --> 02:37:34,264
I don't enjoy hearing the machinery. So if we're going

747
02:37:34,264 --> 02:37:40,744
to be wearing about a constant buzz, it just is

748
02:37:40,784 --> 02:37:42,984
not good for veterans. Um, I like the peace and

749
02:37:43,024 --> 02:37:47,338
quiet in Lakeland village. But apart from that, my second

750
02:37:47,338 --> 02:37:51,978
point, while I was at EOS Lake Elsinor, I noticed

751
02:37:52,079 --> 02:37:55,064
a flock camera was installed right in the front. Of

752
02:37:55,245 --> 02:37:59,067
my street on Grand Avenue. And I'm just wondering if

753
02:37:59,088 --> 02:38:02,187
we're going to become a surveillance state. And like, we're

754
02:38:02,187 --> 02:38:04,643
going to see more of that. I'm just wondering. Uh,

755
02:38:04,683 --> 02:38:07,492
what we're going to do with that forward. Thank you.

756
02:38:08,473 --> 02:38:13,275
Thank you. The item's not on the agenda, sir, so

757
02:38:13,275 --> 02:38:16,555
we can't have a back and forth. Okay. Um, our,

758
02:38:16,555 --> 02:38:19,175
do I need to go forward to Riverside County? Our

759
02:38:19,216 --> 02:38:21,515
police chief is right there. If you tell him where

760
02:38:21,515 --> 02:38:23,755
on Grand Avenue you are, he can tell you whether

761
02:38:24,016 --> 02:38:27,419
it's city or county. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. And

762
02:38:27,440 --> 02:38:32,219
then also I appreciate the sheriffs. You're doing God's work.

763
02:38:32,219 --> 02:38:36,059
But I drive a 2022 BMW 745e. And you guys

764
02:38:36,059 --> 02:38:38,299
keep pulling U - turns when I want to get

765
02:38:38,400 --> 02:38:43,055
a late night snack to 7 - Eleven. So if

766
02:38:43,055 --> 02:38:45,455
you guys are looking for bad guys, like I'll give

767
02:38:45,455 --> 02:38:48,815
you a note, just, y'all keep doing U - turns

768
02:38:49,076 --> 02:38:52,730
and like follow me blocks. Like. Alright, that's it. Thank

769
02:38:52,770 --> 02:39:00,550
you. Thank you, Ruben. Madam Clerk, that concludes our speakers.

770
02:39:00,651 --> 02:39:03,670
Yes, sir. Very good. Then we'll move quickly to city

771
02:39:03,710 --> 02:39:11,016
manager comments. Nothing seems other than shout out to my

772
02:39:11,016 --> 02:39:15,576
wife Renee. Yesterday was our 30th wedding anniversary. All right.

773
02:39:16,747 --> 02:39:18,966
If you asked her, she'll tell you it feels like

774
02:39:19,307 --> 02:39:27,516
50 years. Madam attorney comments? Uh, just two quick comments.

775
02:39:27,516 --> 02:39:30,376
Um, I failed when we were talking about the, uh,

776
02:39:30,817 --> 02:39:35,116
dream center, the ambassador hotel property. The city did issue

777
02:39:35,217 --> 02:39:37,676
a press release today. That is available to anyone who

778
02:39:37,937 --> 02:39:41,916
wants it. Uh, the building, there has been some misinformation.

779
02:39:41,916 --> 02:39:46,405
The building is not a historic structure. Um, that is

780
02:39:46,426 --> 02:39:49,925
absolutely clear. And the city's actions have not been arbitrary.

781
02:39:49,925 --> 02:39:53,285
There's been no rush to judgement. The city acted after

782
02:39:53,786 --> 02:39:57,105
many, many years in accordance with a court order. And

783
02:39:57,146 --> 02:40:00,645
we will comply with the current writ that pauses the,

784
02:40:00,645 --> 02:40:04,882
uh, any activity there. Thank you. Thank you. It takes

785
02:40:04,882 --> 02:40:08,402
us up to the dais and council member comments. Council

786
02:40:08,442 --> 02:40:12,565
member Carroll. Uh, yes, thank you so much, Mayor. Uh,

787
02:40:12,565 --> 02:40:14,985
first I'd like to announce, uh, it was Mayor Pro

788
02:40:15,025 --> 02:40:17,385
Tem's birthday. And we didn't get an opportunity to saying

789
02:40:17,646 --> 02:40:21,545
happy birthday earlier. So if y'all don't mind, in entertain

790
02:40:21,545 --> 02:40:23,865
me an opportunity to sing happy birthday to mayor pro

791
02:40:23,905 --> 02:40:28,345
time, Tim Sheridan, I will kick it off. Happy birthday

792
02:40:29,166 --> 02:40:37,785
to you. Happy birthday to you happy birthday, dear mayor

793
02:40:37,825 --> 02:40:46,254
protect him, Sheridan happy birthday to you. Thank you. I

794
02:40:46,275 --> 02:40:49,454
was under the impression when you turned 35, you don't

795
02:40:49,454 --> 02:40:53,910
get your birthday. Happy birthday saying to you. But thank

796
02:40:53,910 --> 02:40:59,350
you. Yes. He's an amazing person, truly. With that, before

797
02:40:59,350 --> 02:41:01,670
I get to my first slide, I want to give

798
02:41:02,571 --> 02:41:05,910
a large thank you to somebody that's near and dear

799
02:41:05,950 --> 02:41:08,310
to my heart and in the Lake Yelsednor Lord, quite

800
02:41:08,310 --> 02:41:12,790
famous Jeannie Corral is in our audience, um, and she's

801
02:41:12,830 --> 02:41:16,790
one of the most kind, amazing individuals, um, and so,

802
02:41:16,790 --> 02:41:20,588
um, yes, please, please give her. 24 years on the

803
02:41:20,588 --> 02:41:23,388
Lake Austrian Unified School Board four years on the Riverside

804
02:41:23,409 --> 02:41:30,478
County Office of Education, uh, is that correct? Right. So

805
02:41:30,939 --> 02:41:34,358
28 years total, public service helping educate our youth here

806
02:41:34,398 --> 02:41:37,718
in Riverside County and Lake Yelsoynor and surrounding communities that

807
02:41:38,299 --> 02:41:42,998
are touched by LUSD. So, so to hear Jeannie's words

808
02:41:43,038 --> 02:41:46,518
are quite impactful tonight. Amongst all of yours, it's inappropriate

809
02:41:46,558 --> 02:41:48,678
for me to comment on my personal feelings as I

810
02:41:48,678 --> 02:41:51,478
would love to retain my vote and show my true

811
02:41:51,518 --> 02:41:54,998
feelings on, uh, the data center. Um, with that, I

812
02:41:55,019 --> 02:41:59,743
will take my first slide. Uh, National Night Out, I

813
02:41:59,743 --> 02:42:01,703
want to say thank you to all those in public

814
02:42:01,743 --> 02:42:05,703
service, uh, code enforcement police, our sheriffs here at Riverside

815
02:42:05,724 --> 02:42:09,623
County Sheriff's and Cal Fire here that service our committee

816
02:42:09,663 --> 02:42:12,023
here in Lake Elsinor. On the far bottom left, I

817
02:42:12,044 --> 02:42:14,103
was able to attend National Night Out with my best

818
02:42:14,124 --> 02:42:18,823
friend, my wife, Nicole. And so it was truly amazing.

819
02:42:18,823 --> 02:42:20,183
If you missed out, I would encourage you to bring

820
02:42:20,204 --> 02:42:23,783
your kids, grandkids, or even yourselves to go see all

821
02:42:23,964 --> 02:42:26,903
the amazing tools and equipment that our community utilizes on

822
02:42:27,004 --> 02:42:30,423
a daily basis to help keep everybody safe. And with

823
02:42:30,463 --> 02:42:32,423
that, I would love to say thank you to those

824
02:42:32,444 --> 02:42:35,063
that serve on the far right, not only city staff,

825
02:42:35,063 --> 02:42:38,823
but also the sheriff's department. There's a lot of sacrifices

826
02:42:38,844 --> 02:42:41,543
made every day by these individuals. And most, most of

827
02:42:41,543 --> 02:42:44,263
them are made to keep us safe. So thank you.

828
02:42:44,263 --> 02:42:49,758
And with that, I say goodnight. Thank you, Councilmember Tisdale.

829
02:42:50,488 --> 02:42:52,787
Thank you, Mayor. So I want to start out by

830
02:42:53,448 --> 02:42:57,449
thanking everyone for coming out tonight. As the mayor said,

831
02:42:57,449 --> 02:42:59,129
you know, when things aren't any agenda, we can't really

832
02:42:59,169 --> 02:43:03,209
talk about it. And plus the item specifically about data

833
02:43:03,249 --> 02:43:06,169
centers. But let me just say a couple of things,

834
02:43:06,169 --> 02:43:09,849
not specifically about innit centers, but this council was not

835
02:43:09,950 --> 02:43:14,139
moved by people that come to town with promises. So

836
02:43:14,480 --> 02:43:16,839
I want to be clear on that. So, you know,

837
02:43:16,839 --> 02:43:19,553
people say, let's build a warehouse. It's going to create

838
02:43:20,054 --> 02:43:24,273
X number of jobs, construction jobs. Well, you know, we're

839
02:43:24,313 --> 02:43:27,233
quick to go BS because we know that most companies

840
02:43:27,254 --> 02:43:29,934
come in, they bring their own crews, right? And then

841
02:43:29,974 --> 02:43:32,654
we also look at the data and we know how

842
02:43:32,694 --> 02:43:36,974
many jobs it will actually create. And in Lake Ilsinore,

843
02:43:36,995 --> 02:43:39,854
about 10 to 15 percent of the people actually work

844
02:43:40,035 --> 02:43:43,134
in Lake housenor that living like outnor. So we know

845
02:43:43,155 --> 02:43:47,294
the numbers. And so the promises of money and all

846
02:43:47,334 --> 02:43:49,834
those other things that's going to sway this council. And

847
02:43:49,834 --> 02:43:52,254
I don't want to speak for them. But I've been

848
02:43:52,254 --> 02:43:54,994
with them a long time. And so, well, this one's

849
02:43:54,994 --> 02:43:58,194
new. But where everybody else, you know, we've been, we've

850
02:43:58,194 --> 02:44:00,754
been here a long time. So I just want you

851
02:44:00,754 --> 02:44:03,554
guys to understand that we hear you. And we're not

852
02:44:03,815 --> 02:44:06,194
swayed by all the swag and all the other stuff.

853
02:44:06,194 --> 02:44:09,474
So just sort of keep that in mind. And then

854
02:44:09,655 --> 02:44:11,874
I'll ask that you just be patient with this and

855
02:44:11,914 --> 02:44:14,514
let this thing sort of work through the process. And

856
02:44:14,514 --> 02:44:15,954
then, you know, we're going to get the best outcome

857
02:44:15,994 --> 02:44:18,988
that we can get. I love Lake Elsinor. I've been

858
02:44:18,988 --> 02:44:22,184
here since 1998. And you know, this is my home.

859
02:44:22,184 --> 02:44:25,024
I've raised my kids here. My daughter, I'm going to

860
02:44:25,024 --> 02:44:26,184
talk about her later, but we're going to put her

861
02:44:26,205 --> 02:44:28,424
banner up on the street because she was born and

862
02:44:28,464 --> 02:44:31,304
raised here. And now she's serving. So, you know, this

863
02:44:31,304 --> 02:44:34,104
city is important to me. And the wildlife and everything

864
02:44:34,125 --> 02:44:35,864
is important to me. I grew up on a little

865
02:44:35,864 --> 02:44:39,144
farm in Oregon, beaberton, when it was a farm in

866
02:44:39,184 --> 02:44:41,464
Beaverton, which is not no more. But so I get

867
02:44:41,464 --> 02:44:43,784
it. So those of you that are concerned about all

868
02:44:43,824 --> 02:44:46,424
this stuff, I hear you. So I just wanted to

869
02:44:46,424 --> 02:44:54,175
say that. I'll go on to my first slide. All

870
02:44:54,175 --> 02:44:59,775
right. So, um, I sit on our, um, task force,

871
02:44:59,775 --> 02:45:02,335
me and Councilman Carroll for our homeless. We have a

872
02:45:02,335 --> 02:45:06,415
homeless outreach task force. And I just want to just,

873
02:45:06,415 --> 02:45:07,695
the numbers are up there. I'm not going through all

874
02:45:07,735 --> 02:45:09,855
the numbers. But I just want to point out a

875
02:45:09,855 --> 02:45:12,575
couple of things. Like look at the contacts and stuff.

876
02:45:12,575 --> 02:45:15,295
These are what our folks do every day. So sitting

877
02:45:15,396 --> 02:45:18,655
at our sheriff's department, our code enforcement. We're out there

878
02:45:18,695 --> 02:45:21,055
every day making contacts, trying to help people get them

879
02:45:21,316 --> 02:45:24,415
off the street. So it takes a lot of context

880
02:45:24,516 --> 02:45:27,775
to get one person to actually come in for services.

881
02:45:27,775 --> 02:45:29,375
And the people that are in our city are the

882
02:45:29,556 --> 02:45:33,132
hardcore homeless. You know, and most of them don't want

883
02:45:33,233 --> 02:45:35,612
help because they don't understand that they need help for

884
02:45:35,633 --> 02:45:39,292
various reasons. Behavior health issues, drugs, you name it. But

885
02:45:39,393 --> 02:45:41,052
I just want you to know, and these are just

886
02:45:41,092 --> 02:45:43,292
numbers, but I just want you to know that our

887
02:45:43,313 --> 02:45:47,212
city takes it serious and we are working extremely hard.

888
02:45:47,212 --> 02:45:50,412
And you can help us in a couple of ways.

889
02:45:50,412 --> 02:45:52,652
One, please don't give it to the homeless. So I

890
02:45:52,753 --> 02:45:56,092
was talking to a young lady up in, um, Tusney

891
02:45:56,113 --> 02:45:58,892
Hills. And you know, she's, she thinks she's doing the

892
02:45:58,932 --> 02:46:00,252
right thing her and her daughter go out and he

893
02:46:00,252 --> 02:46:02,634
feed the homeless. Well, some of these people are dangerous

894
02:46:03,135 --> 02:46:05,654
because of the very reasons that I talked about. But

895
02:46:06,735 --> 02:46:08,554
all we're doing is keeping them on the street when

896
02:46:08,554 --> 02:46:11,514
we help them. So we have a place for them.

897
02:46:11,514 --> 02:46:13,474
Anybody that wants help in Lake Osednor right now, we

898
02:46:13,474 --> 02:46:15,514
can get them help. We have the ability to do

899
02:46:15,514 --> 02:46:18,074
that. So that's how you can help. And then also

900
02:46:18,735 --> 02:46:26,714
go use our app, my brain did here. Ellie alert.

901
02:46:26,714 --> 02:46:30,554
And alert LE, thank you. And then, you know, at

902
02:46:30,554 --> 02:46:34,074
a geotract them so that when we go out, weekly,

903
02:46:34,074 --> 02:46:35,994
every week, our first go out, they do clean ups

904
02:46:36,735 --> 02:46:38,934
and they make contacts with people so that we can

905
02:46:38,975 --> 02:46:41,354
identify them. And that will help us a whole lot.

906
02:46:41,354 --> 02:46:43,674
So again, tell your neighbors, please don't give food. Don't

907
02:46:43,674 --> 02:46:45,594
give water. Don't give tents. Don't give stuff that's going

908
02:46:45,594 --> 02:46:47,674
to keep them on the streets. But report them so

909
02:46:47,674 --> 02:46:49,594
that we can get them. Our compassion is to get

910
02:46:49,594 --> 02:46:51,914
people back in the society and help them invest we

911
02:46:51,914 --> 02:46:55,142
can. Okay. And so we're not trying to wound them

912
02:46:55,142 --> 02:46:56,822
up, stick them in jail, chasing down the street or

913
02:46:56,822 --> 02:46:58,502
anything else. We want to help people. But you guys

914
02:46:58,502 --> 02:47:00,582
can help us by helping them. So I just want

915
02:47:00,582 --> 02:47:04,621
to throw that out there. Next slide, please. So we

916
02:47:04,722 --> 02:47:08,701
ended our free concert series on launch point with boots

917
02:47:08,722 --> 02:47:10,381
in the sand. So there's me with my best friend.

918
02:47:11,677 --> 02:47:17,147
That photo's AI. That is. So don't get jealous over

919
02:47:17,187 --> 02:47:22,713
the arms young man. You see what I have to

920
02:47:22,713 --> 02:47:25,753
put up with the new people. So, so we take

921
02:47:25,774 --> 02:47:28,633
the boots in the sand part very seriously. So it

922
02:47:28,633 --> 02:47:30,633
was, it was a very fun night. I want to

923
02:47:30,654 --> 02:47:32,313
thank city staff and all that they do for putting

924
02:47:32,414 --> 02:47:35,233
these things together, make these events for our community. It

925
02:47:35,233 --> 02:47:37,753
was a whole lot of fun. So again, I want

926
02:47:37,753 --> 02:47:40,473
to thank all of them. All right. And then my

927
02:47:40,654 --> 02:47:44,633
last slide. So last council meeting, I wasn't here because

928
02:47:44,734 --> 02:47:49,016
I was in San Antonio, Texas. And, um, for my

929
02:47:49,016 --> 02:47:53,016
daughter's graduation. So there is another Tisdell that server in

930
02:47:53,056 --> 02:47:55,336
uniform. So I was in a Marine Corps. And so

931
02:47:55,357 --> 02:47:59,896
I am a proud Air Force dad. And so aired

932
02:47:59,917 --> 02:48:03,096
Tisdo is now in Fort Meed for training. And so,

933
02:48:03,096 --> 02:48:04,936
um, I don't know where she's going to end up,

934
02:48:04,936 --> 02:48:06,856
but I'm so proud of her that she was willing

935
02:48:06,877 --> 02:48:13,853
to serve. So with that, thank you so much. So,

936
02:48:13,893 --> 02:48:16,093
so those of you that are veterans, please welcome my

937
02:48:16,093 --> 02:48:19,373
daughter to our community. So thank you. Thank you honorable

938
02:48:19,394 --> 02:48:23,773
mayor. Thank you, sir. Councilmember monos. Thank you honorable mayor.

939
02:48:23,773 --> 02:48:24,813
I didn't know there was going to be a gun

940
02:48:24,853 --> 02:48:32,026
show at boots at the sand. You know, a lot

941
02:48:32,026 --> 02:48:33,966
of folks came out tonight to talk about the data

942
02:48:34,006 --> 02:48:36,346
center. You probably saw my face kind of like, you

943
02:48:36,346 --> 02:48:40,206
know, and I just have to say, um, first off,

944
02:48:40,206 --> 02:48:44,863
thank you everybody that's come out. I can't talk about

945
02:48:44,884 --> 02:48:49,263
the project as Councilman Carroll mentioned. There's specific and very

946
02:48:49,263 --> 02:48:52,383
strict penalties against, you know, voting on items where there's

947
02:48:52,383 --> 02:48:57,743
a conflict. Finds removal of office jail time. And so

948
02:48:58,644 --> 02:49:01,423
talking about that is a little bit dangerous. Um, and

949
02:49:02,084 --> 02:49:05,163
especially for folks that are elected in the office. And

950
02:49:05,163 --> 02:49:08,343
I certainly wouldn't want to conflict myself so that I

951
02:49:08,343 --> 02:49:12,143
couldn't vote on the project. Um, but I will say

952
02:49:12,164 --> 02:49:17,755
this. I'm very upset. To see, this is the most

953
02:49:17,755 --> 02:49:19,515
number of people I've seen showing up to the last

954
02:49:19,616 --> 02:49:22,901
two meetings over a subject. And I'm very, very upset

955
02:49:22,941 --> 02:49:25,941
about that because you listen to the people and you

956
02:49:25,981 --> 02:49:28,421
hear all the research that's being done and the folk,

957
02:49:28,421 --> 02:49:30,901
things that people are saying. You can tell they kind

958
02:49:30,901 --> 02:49:33,301
of looked into it and spent some time on it.

959
02:49:33,301 --> 02:49:35,221
And not only that took time off of your day

960
02:49:35,261 --> 02:49:36,661
to go ahead and come down here and voice your

961
02:49:36,701 --> 02:49:39,425
opinion and make sure that we heard it. Right? This

962
02:49:39,425 --> 02:49:42,225
is a situation that's not even going to be decided

963
02:49:42,486 --> 02:49:47,696
upon for at least a year. And, um, I, I

964
02:49:47,736 --> 02:49:50,016
wish I could come out and have a conversation with

965
02:49:50,056 --> 02:49:53,856
you about this and respond, um, to have people scared

966
02:49:53,877 --> 02:49:57,616
for a year's, you know, that's a problem for me,

967
02:49:57,616 --> 02:50:00,236
especially my people, people I grew up with and, you

968
02:50:00,236 --> 02:50:06,066
know, um, so can't talk about the project, unfortunately. That's

969
02:50:06,087 --> 02:50:09,906
just the way that it is. Um, I can't say

970
02:50:09,927 --> 02:50:13,826
this. Um, I'm going to ask our attorney to go

971
02:50:13,866 --> 02:50:18,924
ahead and draft, uh, moratorium on data centers. For the

972
02:50:18,924 --> 02:50:21,435
city of Lake Elsar for the next meeting. Uh, that

973
02:50:21,456 --> 02:50:26,573
will not stop. The application process for the current application.

974
02:50:26,573 --> 02:50:30,901
It's not a referendum. The current data center application. That's

975
02:50:31,002 --> 02:50:33,941
in. Or if it continues as a data center, perhaps

976
02:50:34,282 --> 02:50:38,341
the reason why your EIR hasn't started to be processed

977
02:50:38,341 --> 02:50:42,021
as maybe they're making amendments. We don't know. Okay. I'm

978
02:50:42,021 --> 02:50:44,181
not, I'm not just kind of speaking out loud here.

979
02:50:44,333 --> 02:50:48,472
Right. Please don't sue me. Uh, but, but, uh, we

980
02:50:48,493 --> 02:50:50,792
can certainly go ahead and take that up for consideration.

981
02:50:50,792 --> 02:50:54,472
And I will, uh, tip maybe. No, no, I'm not

982
02:50:54,472 --> 02:50:56,632
going to say that. All right. So if you could

983
02:50:56,632 --> 02:51:00,515
bring that to the next meeting, that'd be great. Next

984
02:51:00,515 --> 02:51:04,195
up, we had some additional comments about the ambassador hotel

985
02:51:04,216 --> 02:51:06,355
that I just want to go ahead and make mention.

986
02:51:06,355 --> 02:51:09,395
Um, I'm going to say something very nice. The folks

987
02:51:09,576 --> 02:51:12,515
with the dream center are phenomenal human beings. They have

988
02:51:12,555 --> 02:51:16,915
adopted our street. They clean up trash on Saturdays. They

989
02:51:16,936 --> 02:51:20,435
run a heck of a coffee shop. Uh, they've been

990
02:51:20,936 --> 02:51:24,735
nothing but a positive. We were very concerned about, um,

991
02:51:25,176 --> 02:51:27,795
a group coming onto the city coming to the city

992
02:51:27,835 --> 02:51:30,755
when they first applied to come to the city. And,

993
02:51:30,755 --> 02:51:36,175
uh, they have been amazing ambassadors to the community. Um,

994
02:51:36,936 --> 02:51:40,115
the, the issues with the ambassador of hotel has nothing

995
02:51:40,155 --> 02:51:42,823
to do with the people that are involved. Uh, and

996
02:51:43,324 --> 02:51:47,566
any innuendo by anyone that would say anything. About the

997
02:51:47,667 --> 02:51:52,366
city having any type of personal vendetta against a group

998
02:51:52,406 --> 02:51:56,674
of individuals should be thrown out of here. Honestly. Thank

999
02:51:56,674 --> 02:51:59,730
you for removing yourself. So, uh, that's all I have

1000
02:51:59,730 --> 02:52:04,567
to say about that. Uh, attended A luck. Um, today

1001
02:52:05,788 --> 02:52:09,047
the airport land use commission just updated the March air

1002
02:52:09,087 --> 02:52:14,010
reserve base inland port. Airport land use compatibility plan. That's

1003
02:52:14,010 --> 02:52:18,330
a mouthful. This was a six year project, five year

1004
02:52:18,330 --> 02:52:21,610
project. A little over five years. And, uh, it was

1005
02:52:21,791 --> 02:52:24,810
approved and it will go for a second reading at

1006
02:52:24,810 --> 02:52:27,530
the next meeting. So, uh, we got that done very,

1007
02:52:27,530 --> 02:52:30,650
very proud of that. And it's going to make the

1008
02:52:30,650 --> 02:52:33,770
community safer for the communities and all the development that

1009
02:52:33,791 --> 02:52:38,236
happens right around the March Air Reserve base. I want

1010
02:52:38,236 --> 02:52:43,196
to thank, uh, Councilman Bertisdale for bringing the homeless task

1011
02:52:43,236 --> 02:52:48,236
force update. Our preview, our colleague who has moved on

1012
02:52:48,276 --> 02:52:52,156
to the, uh, assembly, uh, used to do those quarterly.

1013
02:52:52,156 --> 02:52:54,556
And I wondered if at it disappeared, I was going

1014
02:52:54,556 --> 02:52:56,476
to make a request for that here recently and you

1015
02:52:56,476 --> 02:52:59,036
brought it up. Thank you so much. Um, I think

1016
02:52:59,137 --> 02:53:02,518
everybody's truly interested in that information. Um, as far as

1017
02:53:02,558 --> 02:53:06,838
the flock cameras go, flock cameras are, uh, they are

1018
02:53:06,859 --> 02:53:11,238
subject to state laws that restrict the type of use

1019
02:53:11,659 --> 02:53:15,958
and the storage for information acquired by flock cameras. I've

1020
02:53:15,958 --> 02:53:19,379
seen the social media posts. And I will just say

1021
02:53:19,400 --> 02:53:20,899
that if some of the things that are in the

1022
02:53:20,920 --> 02:53:24,979
social media posts are being conducted, uh, by the company

1023
02:53:25,080 --> 02:53:27,219
here in the state of California, then they are breaking

1024
02:53:27,400 --> 02:53:30,761
the law. And I think that comes with jail time.

1025
02:53:31,485 --> 02:53:33,944
So I don't know how to reconcile that. I know

1026
02:53:33,984 --> 02:53:38,104
that I've asked staff to go ahead and, uh, possibly

1027
02:53:38,525 --> 02:53:41,384
allow me to go ahead and personally review the information

1028
02:53:41,725 --> 02:53:44,904
that's being collected and how it's managed. And we're working

1029
02:53:44,904 --> 02:53:48,744
on, uh, maybe doing a little tourist trip and whatnot.

1030
02:53:48,744 --> 02:53:50,744
Cause I share those concerns too. That was the first

1031
02:53:50,765 --> 02:53:53,304
concern I had one. We started talking about the flock

1032
02:53:53,304 --> 02:53:58,707
cameras. But the state law certainly eased those concerns. It's

1033
02:53:58,747 --> 02:54:01,996
a big deal. Uh, let's see here. Asked also asked

1034
02:54:02,017 --> 02:54:04,856
staff to go ahead and review our ADU ordinance, the

1035
02:54:04,856 --> 02:54:08,876
ADU ordinance is not aligned with state law, uh, and

1036
02:54:08,876 --> 02:54:11,896
there were some questions about that. And then finally, the

1037
02:54:11,896 --> 02:54:14,716
mayor pro tim, Tim Sherred. And thank you for your

1038
02:54:14,737 --> 02:54:17,996
service here on the council. Happy birthday. Many happy returns.

1039
02:54:17,996 --> 02:54:20,396
I hope your actual birthday is a very special day.

1040
02:54:21,509 --> 02:54:24,128
Thank you honorable mayor. No, it's not today. Thank you,

1041
02:54:24,128 --> 02:54:27,328
sir. Mayor Pro Tim Sheridan. Thank you Mayor McGee. Good

1042
02:54:27,328 --> 02:54:29,968
evening everyone. Thank you for singing happy birthday to me.

1043
02:54:29,968 --> 02:54:32,448
I do appreciate that very much. I am the representative

1044
02:54:32,629 --> 02:54:36,608
on RTA and I wanted to put up a slide

1045
02:54:36,949 --> 02:54:39,388
to let you know that all summer long you can

1046
02:54:39,388 --> 02:54:42,368
ride the RTA bus for 25 cents. It's a pretty

1047
02:54:42,368 --> 02:54:45,088
good deal. And as you may or may not know,

1048
02:54:45,088 --> 02:54:47,808
you can take the bus from Lake Elsinor to Disneyland.

1049
02:54:48,907 --> 02:54:50,726
Takes a minute or two to get there, but it's

1050
02:54:50,726 --> 02:54:52,866
not a bad deal for 25 cents. And you can

1051
02:54:52,866 --> 02:54:56,166
write it back to. Also youth ride - free and

1052
02:54:56,166 --> 02:55:00,046
they will ride free through the end of 2027. So

1053
02:55:00,046 --> 02:55:02,566
if you're 18 or younger, you can ride the RTA

1054
02:55:02,587 --> 02:55:07,846
bus, uh, for free until next year. Go to the

1055
02:55:07,846 --> 02:55:11,446
next slide, please. Council member Carolyn. I had an opportunity

1056
02:55:11,707 --> 02:55:16,726
to attend the Elsiednor Valley Regional Pony Baseball Leadership and

1057
02:55:16,766 --> 02:55:22,486
Certification weekend. This past weekend in Canyon Hills. Former Los

1058
02:55:22,526 --> 02:55:25,766
Angeles, Dodger Reggie Smith was there. Uh, he, of course,

1059
02:55:26,347 --> 02:55:28,566
seven - time major league baseball all - star and

1060
02:55:28,566 --> 02:55:32,106
a 1981 world champion, a terrific person. In the picture

1061
02:55:32,106 --> 02:55:37,846
with council member Carolyn I, is Izzy. Michelle Israel is

1062
02:55:37,846 --> 02:55:40,886
his full name. Everybody knows him. Is Izzy? And he

1063
02:55:40,907 --> 02:55:45,266
held this two day leadership and certification weekend. It was

1064
02:55:45,547 --> 02:55:50,246
a great success. One of the things that Izzy is

1065
02:55:50,286 --> 02:55:54,726
doing with pony baseball and, uh, BRG, his other group,

1066
02:55:54,726 --> 02:55:59,686
baseball resource group is to bring baseball to our area

1067
02:56:00,427 --> 02:56:04,166
on a very regular basis. Of course, uh, baseball is

1068
02:56:04,206 --> 02:56:08,166
the American pastime. And so we appreciate what he does.

1069
02:56:08,166 --> 02:56:09,846
And it was great to see Reggie Smith in our

1070
02:56:09,886 --> 02:56:12,052
city as well. And with that, I would say thank

1071
02:56:12,092 --> 02:56:15,668
you for your time and attention, mayor. Thank you very

1072
02:56:15,708 --> 02:56:22,611
much, Mayor Protown. And happy birthday, sir. Thank you. First,

1073
02:56:22,611 --> 02:56:26,131
I want to recognize the fact that mayor protem Sheridan,

1074
02:56:26,131 --> 02:56:31,331
Council Member Tisdale and Councilmember Carroll were all unopposed in

1075
02:56:31,331 --> 02:56:33,491
their bid for re - election. And so they will

1076
02:56:33,512 --> 02:56:36,851
be continuing to serve with us up here. I just

1077
02:56:36,891 --> 02:56:39,811
wanted to take a moment to recognize that. Well done,

1078
02:56:39,811 --> 02:56:48,146
gentlemen. And for those of you that came out tonight,

1079
02:56:48,167 --> 02:56:50,626
regarding the data center, I want to thank you for

1080
02:56:50,647 --> 02:56:56,002
your passion and your decorum. And the message has been

1081
02:56:56,002 --> 02:57:00,202
received. And as I said last time, if the developer

1082
02:57:00,543 --> 02:57:06,173
can't hear you, they're tone deaf. Moving on. Let's go

1083
02:57:06,173 --> 02:57:10,257
to the first slide. Sports car club of America will

1084
02:57:10,918 --> 02:57:14,337
be having their autocross event. This is the Los Angeles

1085
02:57:14,758 --> 02:57:19,777
chapter of SCCA. They will be here at Diamond Stadium.

1086
02:57:19,777 --> 02:57:23,377
Saturday and Sunday. They usually get started between nine and

1087
02:57:23,478 --> 02:57:27,057
nine 30 a. m. Come down, check out the cars.

1088
02:57:27,057 --> 02:57:29,457
It costs you nothing. And if you fill out a

1089
02:57:29,497 --> 02:57:35,383
waiver, you can ride with them. Moving now to Sunday,

1090
02:57:35,383 --> 02:57:39,863
August 23rd, the official grand opening of the ice cave.

1091
02:57:40,905 --> 02:57:45,044
This is on cord and road next to Casade Mobile.

1092
02:57:45,044 --> 02:57:47,504
They've got their big sign up on the road. You

1093
02:57:47,545 --> 02:57:51,284
can't miss it anymore. What a great place to spend

1094
02:57:51,545 --> 02:57:55,662
August. And with that again, I thank you for your

1095
02:57:55,763 --> 02:57:58,142
attendance and your decorum. And we are adjourned.