[0:09] Good afternoon. Call the city council and the redevelopment. Successor
[0:14] agency to order showing my agency. Council member Carroll. President.
[0:22] Council Member Tisdale, Council Member Monos. Here. Mayor Protown Sheridan.
[0:26] Here. Mayor Mickey. Here. Madam Clerk, do we have any
[0:29] requests to speak on closed session items? No, sir. Madam
[0:34] attorney, closed session announcements. Thank you, Mayor. City Council has
[0:38] four items. Two items of real property negotiation pursuant to
[0:42] government code section 54956. 8em 4. 1, the parcel numbers
[0:48] are identified. The negotiating parties are the city of Lake
[0:51] Elsinor and JMB land, LLC and Steve Galvez under negotiation,
[0:58] price in terms of payment. Item 4. 2 under the
[1:01] same authority, APNs are identified on the agenda. The negotiating
[1:05] parties or the city of Lake Elsinor and the property
[1:08] owner, Chin J Chen under negotiation price in terms of
[1:12] payment. We also have two items of existing litigation pursuant
[1:17] to paragraph 1D of section 54956. 9. The first case
[1:23] is DNS. And RS investment LLC versus the city of
[1:29] Lake Elsinor, the case number is on the agenda. The
[1:33] second item is the city of Lake Elsinor versus Harry
[1:36] E. Mitchell. And related parties in the case number is
[1:41] on the agenda. Thank you very much, Madam Attorney. Have
[1:47] you know their business in front of us? We're going
[1:49] to recess into closed session and then reconvene back here
[1:52] at seven o'clock.
[1:43:26] Good evening. Call the Lacosnore City Council meeting and successor
[1:43:30] agency to order. We all please rise and join me
[1:43:33] in the Pledge of Allegiance. Ready again.
[1:43:45] And to the Republic for which it stands one nation
[1:43:49] under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all these
[1:43:55] remains standing for a moment of silent prayer.
[1:44:10] Thank you. Madam Clerk, will you please call the
[1:44:20] role? Council Member Carroll. Present. Council Member Tisdale here. Council
[1:44:25] Member Monas. Here. Mayor Propertim Sheridan. Here. Mayor Mickey. Here.
[1:44:32] Madam Attorney closed session report, please. Thank you, Mayor. The
[1:44:39] city council met at five o'clock this evening to discuss
[1:44:42] four items in closed session. Two of them are concerning
[1:44:45] real property negotiations pursuant to government code section 54956. 9.
[1:44:51] Item 4. 1 identifies the parcels. The agency negotiator is
[1:44:56] city manager Simpson. The negotiating parties are the city and
[1:45:00] the owners of that property JMB land LLC and Steve
[1:45:04] Galvez under negotiation price in terms of payment. The second
[1:45:09] real property negotiation, item 4. 2, the parcels are identified
[1:45:13] on the agenda. Again, the city's negotiator is city manager
[1:45:17] Simpson. The negotiating parties are the city and the owner
[1:45:22] Chen Jin under negotiation, price in terms of payment. There's
[1:45:26] no reportable action on our real property negotiations this evening.
[1:45:30] Items 4. 3 and 4. 4 both involved existing litigation.
[1:45:35] Closed session was conducted pursuant to the authority of government
[1:45:38] code section 5495 6. 9 D1. The 4. 3, the
[1:45:45] name of the case DS and RS investment LLC versus
[1:45:49] the city of Lake Elsinor. The case numbers identified on
[1:45:52] the agenda. Our last item is the city of Lake
[1:45:55] Elsinor versus Harry E. Mitchell and related parties. The case
[1:46:01] number again identified on the agenda. There is no reportable
[1:46:05] action on those items either and that concludes my report.
[1:46:08] Thank you. Thank you very much. Madam Attorney. Next item
[1:46:14] on our agenda is a presentation from Cal Fire, but
[1:46:17] our chief was unable to join us this evening. So
[1:46:21] we're going to continue that item and tell another date
[1:46:24] when he can be here. And that will take us
[1:46:27] now to public comments on non - agenda items one
[1:46:31] minute in length. Madam Clerk, do we have any request
[1:46:34] to speak. Yes, I have two requests to speak. First
[1:46:37] is Leo Zoller.
[1:46:47] Naaman City of Residence for the record, please. Hi. My
[1:46:50] name is Leo Zoller. I live in the city of
[1:46:52] Wildemar. You guys might remember me from last year. I
[1:46:55] promise I'm not going to do anything like I did
[1:46:57] last year. But I'm just here to comment specifically on
[1:47:03] the contract for the demolition of the hotel at the
[1:47:07] front at the southern end of Main Street. I just
[1:47:12] have a poem. I wrote a couple of days ago.
[1:47:14] That's all I want to present to you guys. Goes
[1:47:16] like this. Whether by bond or bulldozer, the uprooting of
[1:47:20] trees and a ratio of history, God is displeased. No
[1:47:23] matter where, no matter how occupation destruction leads not but
[1:47:27] to foul. Yahweh, our God, Allah just the same shall
[1:47:32] not forgive the forsaken that which has been made. The
[1:47:35] supposed devout, those sworn to protect, have failed completely. The
[1:47:39] order defect. For us and our future, a choice looms
[1:47:43] ahead. Seed heaven on earth or have peace, land, and
[1:47:47] bread. Thank you. Thank you. Next speaker, Madam Clerk.
[1:47:57] I did also receive one from Michelle Campbell, but I'm
[1:48:00] not sure if she wants to speak on one minute
[1:48:01] or three minutes. Do you want to speak for one
[1:48:06] minute or for three minutes at the end of the
[1:48:08] meeting. Three minutes. To be. Okay. Then I do have
[1:48:15] a speaker on Zoom, Nick Fitch. Salcom, him in just
[1:48:20] a moment.
[1:48:53] Hello. Yes, we can hear you. You can go ahead.
[1:48:57] Okay, wonderful. My name is Nicholas Fitch. I'm a homeowner
[1:49:01] in like Alsinor. I'm speaking on the prospect of a
[1:49:05] data center being installed in our town. We're concerned heavily
[1:49:10] about the arise. Energy rates and water consumption over this
[1:49:17] proposed building. Uh, this is not only going to raise
[1:49:22] power costs for the individual citizen of like else north.
[1:49:27] For businesses. And potentially lower house values, which has us
[1:49:32] very nervous over the potential of this. Thank you. Thank
[1:49:36] you, sir. Does that conclude our speakers under this section?
[1:49:41] Yes, it is. Thank you, Madam Clerk. That moves us
[1:49:44] to our consent calendar. I am 12. 1 through 12.
[1:49:48] 16. Madam Clerk, do we have any requests to speak
[1:49:51] on any of those items? Yes, I have two requests
[1:49:53] to speak. First is item 12. 6 and the other
[1:49:56] is 12. 7. Very good. What's the pleasure of the
[1:50:01] council. Move the balance. Have a motion. Can I get
[1:50:07] a second? A motion from Councilman Monos and a second
[1:50:11] from Mayor Protem Sheridan. Hearing no further discussion. Please record
[1:50:16] your vote.
[1:50:28] In the items past unanimously. Item 12. 6. Is an
[1:50:38] agreement for a demolition contract. Madam Clerk, would you please
[1:50:42] call the speaker. Yes, Ace Paletos.
[1:50:55] My name's Billy Holmes. I wanted to speak on this
[1:50:58] item I was going to request that the council postponed
[1:51:01] the demolition of that building. Considering they started on it.
[1:51:04] I think it was yesterday. Which seemed odd because the
[1:51:07] money or the appropriation for it is today. It seems
[1:51:12] kind of arbitrary. And it looks almost like a vendetta.
[1:51:14] It's quite frankly based on the fact that the property,
[1:51:18] the gear hard property, it's old to the Dream Center
[1:51:21] people. And then they had good intention and faith had
[1:51:25] gone with the city trying to get their, uh, their
[1:51:29] thing done there with this conditional use permit that the
[1:51:31] council finally denied after leading them to believe that they
[1:51:34] were going to get that. But anyways, I think that
[1:51:37] they need to be more discussion on it. And that's
[1:51:40] all I wanted to say. Thank you. Thank you. No
[1:51:43] other speakers on this item. No, sir. Madam attorney, you
[1:51:48] have a statement. I can give a brief staff reporting
[1:51:52] a little bit of background at the pleasure of the
[1:51:54] council. Um. The ambassador hotel has been a longstanding subject
[1:52:01] of health and safety code violations. There are at least
[1:52:05] 65 identified substandard illegal and dangerous conditions. Those conditions led
[1:52:11] to the building being red tagged many years ago, meaning
[1:52:16] it's unsafe to occupy until the hazards are corrected. The
[1:52:21] city initiated code enforcement actions years and years ago. And
[1:52:26] eventually initiated litigation against the former owner who subsequently died
[1:52:31] in the property was tied up in probate for a
[1:52:33] long time. When the dream center purchased the property in
[1:52:37] 2021, they were aware of these dangerous conditions and all
[1:52:43] of the building code violations. And they entered into a
[1:52:46] compliance agreement acknowledging those conditions agreeing to deadlines to remediate
[1:52:52] and repair those conditions and authorizing the city to seek
[1:52:58] court relief if the corrections were not timely made. As
[1:53:04] the new owner, the dream center stepped into that litigation.
[1:53:09] After five years of working with the dream center, there's
[1:53:13] been no remediation. The property has continued to decline. I
[1:53:17] think we have some photos if anyone wants to play
[1:53:19] those while we're, while I'm briefly, uh, reviewing this. So
[1:53:25] with, with no, uh, remediation in the building left to
[1:53:28] continue to decline, the city did seek court relief. And
[1:53:33] on July 21st, the Riverside superior court issued an order,
[1:53:38] finding the property a danger to health and safety, a
[1:53:42] public nuisance and ordered the city to immediately abate the
[1:53:47] nuisance or, in other words, to demolish the property. We
[1:53:53] initiated that process. Step one being entering into a contract
[1:53:58] to abate the asbestos that is on the property. On
[1:54:04] August 4th, the dream center again went to superior court
[1:54:11] action for the court to postpone the demolition the court
[1:54:15] rejected that application. And the city commenced asbestos abatement on
[1:54:22] August 6. So we worked August 6th and August 7th
[1:54:27] solely on espbestos abatement. Tonight's action relates to the demolition.
[1:54:32] So let me give you a quick update on where
[1:54:34] we are now. The dream center, uh, appealed the superior
[1:54:40] court's action. And the court of appeal Friday at 450
[1:54:45] is when we were notified did stay the demolition. So
[1:54:49] the city is not taking any additional action, uh, we
[1:54:54] will comply with the court of appeal. It's called a
[1:54:57] writ of supersedius. It means that, uh, we will not
[1:55:02] do anything until we get a green light from the
[1:55:05] courts. One thing that you, if anyone is in the
[1:55:09] vicinity, um, may see tomorrow is our asbestos abatement crew
[1:55:15] will be on the roof solely to cover it, to
[1:55:19] seal and protect the roof tiles so that they can't
[1:55:22] blow off or the, um, exposure to the asbestos. The
[1:55:29] issues with the dream center are two separate and distinct
[1:55:33] matters. No entity, no matter how good their cause, no
[1:55:37] matter how valuable the work they do or the people
[1:55:40] they serve is exempt from the law. This building is
[1:55:45] dangerous. This building has no seismic retrofit. This building is
[1:55:51] in, um, at risk of falling down. We will comply
[1:55:57] with the court order. This has absolutely nothing to do
[1:56:01] with the ownership of the building. It has nothing to
[1:56:04] do with an eventual land use or development proposal from
[1:56:08] the dream center. So we value the work that the
[1:56:12] dream center does, but the land issue is entirely separate
[1:56:16] and distinct from the nuisance abatement issue. So the action
[1:56:20] tonight, and we would recommend that the council proceed and
[1:56:23] approve the contract, the demolition was publicly bid. The recommendation
[1:56:30] is to award the contract to the lowest responsible bidder,
[1:56:34] the amount is 198, 000 dollars. No work, and I
[1:56:39] want to say this again. No work will be commenced
[1:56:43] pursuant to this demolition contract. Unless and until we get
[1:56:47] the green light or the order from the courts. Um,
[1:56:52] that concludes my statements unless the council has any questions.
[1:56:56] Because this is a matter of ongoing litigation. I have
[1:56:59] advised the council to limit their comments or not to
[1:57:03] speak other than to ask questions. Thank you very much,
[1:57:07] Madam Attorney. Any questions or comments for my colleagues? Councilman
[1:57:11] Monos. You know, I received a lot of comments on
[1:57:16] this from the public. Folks who are disappointed, sadden, upset.
[1:57:22] Um, and I just wanted to go ahead and share
[1:57:24] that. I think we feel the same way. Building's been
[1:57:28] red tagged since I was in high school. And it's
[1:57:33] a serious danger. Uh, to, and, and the other side
[1:57:36] of this is of course, if the building vertical collapse
[1:57:40] into crush a kid or some person, a member of
[1:57:43] the public. The other argument would be, why didn't the
[1:57:46] city do something about it? And that's the challenge. That's
[1:57:49] what we have to face. So don't like to be
[1:57:52] the bad guy. But there's many hands that this has
[1:57:56] passed through. And unfortunately, this is the path we're on
[1:58:01] right now. So I just wanted to put that out
[1:58:04] there. Thank you. Thank you, Councilman. Prepare to accept a
[1:58:08] motion. We have a motion from Council Member Carroll. Second
[1:58:15] from Mayor Protem Sheredon. Hearing no other comments. Please record
[1:58:21] your vote. And the item passes unanimously. It moves us
[1:58:30] now to item a 12. 7. This is food service
[1:58:35] and kitchen appliance purchases for the new city hall. Madam
[1:58:39] Clerk, would you please call the speaker? Yes. The speaker
[1:58:42] again is Ace Valleyhouse.
[1:59:02] Good evening. Mayor. I wanted to go ahead and bring
[1:59:05] this up because it seemed like a lot of money
[1:59:08] for a kitchen that you're going to put in the
[1:59:10] Taj Mahal. Team to me, my opinion, that, that money
[1:59:13] could be better spent on other things. There are people
[1:59:16] out here that, you know, have serious problems like, you
[1:59:19] know, the homelessness. And of course the building with this
[1:59:22] best is falling off of it into the street for
[1:59:24] all this time. And then now it's not, now it's
[1:59:27] a, now it's a problem. But anyways, I take a
[1:59:30] look at the, uh, military academy. And I sit there
[1:59:33] and think to myself, that's, you know, what's the difference
[1:59:36] between that and this building over here is that this
[1:59:39] building is between the gear heart property and city hall.
[1:59:44] But anyways, I wanted to go ahead and get back
[1:59:45] to the 147, I think that that's a lot of
[1:59:52] money. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Any other
[2:00:02] requests to speak. No, sir. Very good. What's the pleasure
[2:00:06] of the council. We have a motion from council member
[2:00:13] monos and a second. I believe from the mayor pro
[2:00:17] - Tem. From council member Carol.
[2:00:28] Having no other discussion items. Please record your vote.
[2:00:40] That motion passed you unanimously. Thank you very much, Madam
[2:00:43] Clerk. It takes snow to the successor agency consent calendar.
[2:00:47] Items 13 one through 13 three. Adam clerk. Do we
[2:00:51] have any requests to speak on these items? No, sir.
[2:00:54] Very good. What's the pleasure of the agency. We have
[2:00:57] a motion to approve from mayor pro - tempe Sheridan.
[2:01:00] And a second from Councilman Romanos. Hearing no further discussion.
[2:01:05] Please record your vote. And the items pass unanimously. Having
[2:01:14] no public hearings or business items in front of us
[2:01:17] this evening. We move quickly to public comments under non
[2:01:21] - agendaized items three minutes in length. Madam Clerk, who's
[2:01:26] our first speaker. Our perspeakers, Jeannie Corral.
[2:01:36] Good evening, Mr. Mayor. Honorable councilman. I am here all,
[2:01:42] so to speak about the prospect of the latest center.
[2:01:47] I've received a number of calls only because I've lived
[2:01:51] here since God was a boy, as you know. And
[2:01:54] so people seem to think I should have answers. I
[2:01:59] have told them I have no answers. But I do
[2:02:02] have questions. I have concerns about water pollution. And the
[2:02:09] amount of water that's such a center would take to
[2:02:14] operate the amount of nitrates that would go back to
[2:02:19] the water. And how it would be dispensed. And because.
[2:02:26] It's proposed in an area that's close to other residential
[2:02:32] places that could be subject to fire easily from the
[2:02:38] kinds of things that occur with generators in our heat,
[2:02:43] I would simply like to request that when you go
[2:02:48] through the Ciqua and EIRs and the recommendations that come,
[2:02:54] that you take a really fine look at all of
[2:02:58] the things that are being proposed. Because we have a
[2:03:02] data center in nearby riverside. And they're now 332 of
[2:03:07] them. I understand in the state of California alone. So
[2:03:14] I guess we ever generate a great deal of information.
[2:03:20] I'm not certain how it's going to be used. For
[2:03:24] us. Or against us. But our community is a community
[2:03:30] of caring people. That many of them moved here. For
[2:03:35] a high quality of life. I think most of you
[2:03:38] came here for that. And I know I'm not willing
[2:03:44] to allow AI to totally take over my life. Thank
[2:03:50] you.
[2:04:01] Thank you, Ms. Corral. Next speaker, please. Our next speaker
[2:04:04] is Adelia Libuzowski. I'm going to. Refer my time. Over
[2:04:13] the. Gene cleats. Yes, we don't defer time here. You
[2:04:19] can have three minutes and your friend can have three
[2:04:21] minutes. If maybe you just want to give us the
[2:04:27] subject matter and whether you're four or against it, please
[2:04:30] come to the, if you can. Okay. Thank you, ma'am.
[2:04:42] Okay. I also am against the center. My daughter and
[2:04:51] son - in - law live in Temecula. And she
[2:04:55] has a degree. In computers. And she made me aware
[2:04:59] of this. And she said, mommy really need to research
[2:05:05] this. About the heat from the generators. The millions of
[2:05:09] gallons of water. That will be put into this. We're
[2:05:14] short on water already. Uh, the grid overload. How would
[2:05:19] this affect our utility bills. Backup diesel generators emissions. Large
[2:05:27] facilities used backup generators. Air pollution diesel exhaust noise pollution
[2:05:33] increased energy. Generation and backup diesel testing emit. Particular matter.
[2:05:41] For those of us that are older. We can't breathe.
[2:05:44] It's going to make it worse. Infrastructure cost. For roads,
[2:05:48] water systems, electric. And other utility needs. It's also going
[2:05:55] to raise the temperature. We're already cooking. It can raise
[2:06:01] it at the least three percent. And Jamie says maybe
[2:06:05] up to 16. Everybody's going to be moving away. You
[2:06:11] know, we can't live. We can't pay our electric bill
[2:06:15] now. And, um, very few jobs are going to be
[2:06:20] generated from this. So I have to say thank you.
[2:06:25] Thank you for sharing your concern. Madam Clerk,
[2:06:35] how many more speakers do we have. 11 more. Fantastic.
[2:06:42] Perhaps if I could cut to the chase and take
[2:06:45] a moment of personal privilege. For those of you that
[2:06:48] are able, anyone in the audience who is opposed to
[2:06:51] the dead center, would you mind standing up and showing
[2:06:54] your disapproval. Very good. Now we'll continue with the speakers.
[2:07:03] Thank you. Our next speaker is Jamie Madden.
[2:07:13] Could. You mind if I set this here? Yes. Yes.
[2:07:16] Okay. Good evening. Mayor. Mayor. You scrub the microphone. There
[2:07:22] we go. Can you hear me now? Home can hear
[2:07:24] you too. All right. Good evening, Mayor. Mayor pro time
[2:07:27] and council members. My name is Jamie Madden and I
[2:07:30] want to be direct and insist that we follow our
[2:07:32] neighbors desert hot springs, Indio, Coachella Valley in passing a
[2:07:37] moratorium on data centers within Lake Elsinor and moved towards
[2:07:40] a complete ban in the future. The sales pitches from
[2:07:44] Data Center Community Relations Directors may seem enticing with their
[2:07:49] offers of jobs for locals. Um, infrastructure upgrades, philanthropic promises.
[2:07:54] However, the cost to the community and environment are not
[2:07:57] worth short - term promises that turn into long -
[2:08:01] term consequences. Any reasonable person committed to common sense knows
[2:08:06] that the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.
[2:08:10] The past, current and current behavior, excuse me, of hyperskille
[2:08:15] GPU data centers have shown that although they promise to
[2:08:19] be good neighbors, they just aren't. Before I list the
[2:08:23] experiences of Sister Cities throughout the nation and during real
[2:08:27] and egregious side effects of sharing their communities with resource
[2:08:31] parasites, I want to point out that Lake Elsinor is
[2:08:35] 75 percent dependent on the import of the most vital
[2:08:40] resource, which is water. So according to the Ilsinor Valley,
[2:08:45] uh, municipal water district, only 25 percent of our water
[2:08:48] is derived locally. and the other 75 percent is derived
[2:08:52] from the Colorado River. Which if you haven't heard is
[2:08:56] itself at record lows. The situation is so dire that
[2:09:01] the federal government had to step in and decrease the
[2:09:03] entire state of California is allotment that will receive it
[2:09:08] here. I feel it's very impractical and irresponsible to stick
[2:09:12] another straw into an already shrinking cup. So circling back
[2:09:18] to the lived experiences of our fellow Americans. I just
[2:09:26] wanted to point out a couple experiences. So Eastern organ,
[2:09:29] which has a high cluster of Amazon data centers. Amazon
[2:09:32] was recently ordered to pay 20. 5 million to 45,
[2:09:36] 000 residents after contaminating drinking water with high levels of
[2:09:39] nitrates. Hood County, Texas residents are complaining of 24 hour
[2:09:44] high intensity machine noise. Fayetteville, Georgia, BlackRock data center had
[2:09:50] two illegal hookups that was unknown to the water utility
[2:09:54] in which they siphoned away 44 Olympic size pools worth
[2:09:57] of water away from the citizens. And that area is
[2:10:00] already experiencing a drought. Um, in Lake Tahoe, 50, 000
[2:10:04] residents were told they'd have to find other means of
[2:10:06] electricity as the data center, 75 miles away. Had priority
[2:10:10] over the energy. So that's a big radius, right? Um,
[2:10:14] Cheyenne, Wyoming, the meta AI data center, project Cosmo contaminated.
[2:10:20] The city's wastewater, uh, with multi - drug resistant organisms.
[2:10:24] That water was sprayed on. Part grass. Um, Wisconsin, additional
[2:10:29] power lines needed to, I'm sorry, that's my wrap it
[2:10:34] up. Okay. So I just would like to close with,
[2:10:37] um, when the last tree is cut, last fish is
[2:10:40] caught and their last rivers and the river is polluted.
[2:10:44] When to breathe the air is sickening, you will realize
[2:10:46] too late that wealth is not in bank accounts and
[2:10:49] that you can't eat money. Thank you very much.
[2:11:02] Next speaker, please. Our next speaker is Isaiah Kunya.
[2:11:17] Good afternoon, City Council. I come here today to hopefully
[2:11:21] clear your guys'ear palettes from all this talk and concerns
[2:11:23] about the data center. In which I oppose to as
[2:11:26] well. But I'm here to talk about the bigger picture.
[2:11:30] So if we may think back to the Lake Alicenor
[2:11:33] general plan for new Elsinor, I feel as, this is
[2:11:36] where a lot of confusions come from as citizens. I
[2:11:42] was reviewing the GPU and I found a few map
[2:11:45] and graph correction change that needed to be changed. These
[2:11:49] will be at no cost and will save our city
[2:11:51] from future lawsuits. I had sent out an email onto
[2:11:54] live 15 and have not had any answers since. So
[2:11:58] I come today to illuminate these topics for you guys.
[2:12:02] One of my main concerns was the wash. The wash
[2:12:08] was being severed from. Specific area, I believed. And the
[2:12:16] wash was not being connected coming down from. Horse Steve
[2:12:20] to the end of. Nicholas where the wash comes out.
[2:12:26] Um, we all know that that is a great concern
[2:12:28] for floods. And it's just simply, um, a map and
[2:12:34] graph correction. Oh, you see, see map configuration goes against
[2:12:43] LUCC2. Where you say the floatway was marked as NA
[2:12:48] hitting, which is required a bridge if it is being
[2:12:54] severed. Let's see.
[2:13:10] Basically. What I found was needed correction. If you guys
[2:13:15] adopt these wrong, there would be up for lawsuits and
[2:13:20] they could sue and win, which we know that could
[2:13:22] cost a city about 500K per. I had came to
[2:13:27] the planning department already. In regards of these topics. Um,
[2:13:32] on July 15. So I asked that if you guys
[2:13:37] consider my concern as soon as possible respectfully. For the
[2:13:41] GPU adoption, which this is a council action. So I'm
[2:13:47] asking counsel to direct staff per gov code 6300. I
[2:13:53] ask for, for inwriting as soon as possible. So it's
[2:13:58] not missed before the adoption. Isaiah, our community development director,
[2:14:04] Ms. Demary Abraham is right there. If you will get
[2:14:06] her business card in exchange information, that'll be your next
[2:14:10] step. Thank you so much. Thank you, sir. Next speaker,
[2:14:19] please. Our next speakers. Then y'all go King.
[2:14:30] Hello, good evening. I am speaking. I'm speaking today in
[2:14:37] regards to the Elsinor Heights Industrial Project, planning application number
[2:14:41] 2023 - 35. That is being planned to occupy 61.
[2:14:46] 02 acres of Lake Elsinor's lands. I am an inland
[2:14:52] empire born resident and currently residing neighboring of the project
[2:14:57] being planned in Lake Elsinor. It is now August six
[2:15:04] months since the NOP and there have been no public
[2:15:06] updates revealing the future steps of this project. I ask
[2:15:10] that the environmental review clearly identify and evaluates the potentially
[2:15:15] significant impacts associated with each proposed project option, including the
[2:15:21] differences and impacts between the alternatives. I also ask that
[2:15:26] the city provides residents with an update regarding the anticipated
[2:15:30] timeline for the draft EIR. And if the applicant and
[2:15:33] city have considered any of the options proposed. We have
[2:15:38] seen in real time that devastation's data centers have caused
[2:15:41] countrywide to natural life and the depletion of resources that
[2:15:45] are taking from residents. And wildlife alike. The consequences far
[2:15:50] outweigh the benefits of building allowed invasive and water hoarding
[2:15:54] data center. Just to be clear, I do not want
[2:15:58] a data center being built in my town. Police consider
[2:16:03] my comment as a resident speaking to you out of
[2:16:06] many concerned residents in the area that are part of
[2:16:08] the demographic, this project will be directly harming and depleting
[2:16:13] resources from. Thank you for your time. Thank you.
[2:16:23] Next speaker, please. Our next speaker is Orcadia Wilcox. Good
[2:16:27] evening. I'm a resident of Domisco Valley. So I'm a
[2:16:31] neighbor and I will be affected if we have a
[2:16:34] data center here. So I'm against that proposal. And I
[2:16:39] would like to remind you of your responsibility what decisions
[2:16:42] you're going to make only will affect Lake Calcinor, the
[2:16:45] city, but all this running areas. Normally now, but for
[2:16:49] the future. And in your, um, Dream Extreme or your,
[2:16:54] you know, aspirations, you have the aspiration number one to
[2:16:59] be a destination here for sports and for healthy activities.
[2:17:04] Well, that would not happen if the temperature rises and
[2:17:06] the water in farms and the environment. And you hurt
[2:17:11] all that. And I'm sure us responsible decision makers. You
[2:17:15] have probably already researched. So that will be going against
[2:17:19] what your aspirations are. Also your aspiration number two grow
[2:17:24] up by variant and active city. Well, you're not going
[2:17:26] to have many members left. For that. And number three,
[2:17:29] foster, we're natural resources. You, if you accept a proposal,
[2:17:33] we're having that data center. You're going to be going
[2:17:35] directly against your aspiration number three. And this city is
[2:17:39] not going to have any, any dreams or any future
[2:17:42] because you will be killing it. And, um, you know,
[2:17:46] as I know, maybe I work generation, things this is
[2:17:49] not horrible, but our younger generations would like to have
[2:17:52] a healthy environment to live in. So, you know, we
[2:17:56] pass over the hour, you know, better half, but we
[2:17:59] need to think of the future generations. And we need
[2:18:01] to make good choices for them. We live in the
[2:18:04] disser. We can now bring a project that will be
[2:18:08] wasting our drinking water. And you probably know that you
[2:18:13] can go about three minutes without oxygen. You can go,
[2:18:18] you know, probably about three days without water, but you
[2:18:21] can go all your life without deficient intelligence. Thank you.
[2:18:32] Thank you. Next speaker, Madam Cleric. Our next speaker is
[2:18:35] Brianna Wilcox. Swillcocks. Evening city council. My friend and Wilcox.
[2:18:41] I'm a former science teacher, current small business owner and
[2:18:43] farming apprentice in the inland empire. I'm here with similar
[2:18:47] concerns about proposed AI data center. I'm sure you've heard,
[2:18:51] but I like to reiterate and put it on the
[2:18:52] record of what could happen if we consider proposal. I
[2:18:56] also want to propose an alternate a complete and permanent
[2:19:01] ban on all data centers in similar infrastructure projects for
[2:19:05] the city of Lake Elsinor. So you know, you've read
[2:19:10] how it spends the water. Um, I don't know if
[2:19:12] you've heard that it literally dropped the water table and
[2:19:15] it's dropped the water pressure in residence in Georgia, Utah,
[2:19:19] Oregon. Also, but when I make claims, I'm happy to
[2:19:22] share my sources with you, the studies that were done,
[2:19:24] the research and the journalism that's been done on this.
[2:19:26] So I'm not just making things up, I promise. Uh,
[2:19:29] let me know and I'm happy to email these sources
[2:19:31] to you as well. Um, it also irreparably pollutes the
[2:19:35] water with no efforts made and no incentive to clean
[2:19:39] that water used. It drains the grid so much they
[2:19:43] can't rely on the grid themselves on average. They rely
[2:19:45] on diesel backup generators to keep themselves going 24 seven
[2:19:49] because they know they drain our electrical grid. We are
[2:19:52] already experiencing rolling blackouts and brownouts in Southern California in
[2:19:56] the summer. We, at least in Riverside where I've had
[2:20:00] experienced blackouts and brownouts. I'm not sure that like Elsiednor
[2:20:04] can handle a drain of hundreds of thousands of homes
[2:20:06] worth of electrical use. If this proposal is accepted or
[2:20:09] even entertained. Um, they also, these companies, these private corporations
[2:20:14] love to fois the cost of operation onto the taxpayer.
[2:20:19] As a small business owner, I have the understanding that
[2:20:21] if you as a company cannot support yourself through your
[2:20:25] own practices and you refuse to make any changes to
[2:20:28] make yourself self - sustainable and the economic sense, you
[2:20:31] don't deserve to exist. You're not going to force cost
[2:20:34] of operation onto taxpayers onto city government. They have made
[2:20:38] promises before in other cities of this is going to
[2:20:40] be a no cost project. But then that means schools
[2:20:44] lose their funding. Roads don't get taken care of. Public
[2:20:48] infrastructure projects for the public. Somehow don't have money anymore
[2:20:53] because they made tax breaks. They made incentives to the
[2:20:56] data center corporation instead. That's not no cost. The money
[2:21:00] comes from somewhere. They're not going to provide it and
[2:21:03] they're going to try to leech it from the people
[2:21:05] here. So it's losing proposition. Um, on average, major deals
[2:21:10] cost a taxpayer two million dollars per job generated. That's
[2:21:13] not even necessarily permanent or come with benefits. You guys
[2:21:16] are better job providers than any data center could be.
[2:21:19] Just seeing. It's more cost effective too. I also provide
[2:21:25] sources. Just let me know and I'll email it to
[2:21:27] you. Um. The 24 seven light pollution. People can't sleep.
[2:21:34] With her anywhere near a data center. The 24 seven
[2:21:37] noise pollution from all the cool, the chill fans, the
[2:21:40] coolers, the backup generators is also a 24 seven. So
[2:21:45] I'm just saying a vote for data center is a
[2:21:48] vote for people to die. From heat stroke, heat stress,
[2:21:52] lack of sleep, air pollution, water pollution soil pollution. I
[2:21:56] know you are all responsible people, kind people. I normally
[2:21:59] make the right decision. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
[2:22:02] Thank you. Next speaker, please. Our next speaker is Susan
[2:22:11] Levitt and Methys Hopper.
[2:22:26] Good evening Mayor McGee and mayor protum Sheredan and members
[2:22:31] of the city council. I'm here this evening with Susan
[2:22:34] Lovett and fellow members of the Church of Jesus Christ
[2:22:37] of Latter - day Saints from Lake Elnor to present
[2:22:40] a commemorative proclamation recognizing the 250th anniversary of the Declaration
[2:22:45] of Independence. As we celebrate this important milestone in our
[2:22:51] nation's history, we do so with gratitude for the freedoms
[2:22:54] we enjoy, especially the freedom of religion. And the opportunity
[2:22:59] to serve our communities. We are grateful to live, work,
[2:23:04] worship, and raise our families in this wonderful community. Let
[2:23:09] me read a part of the proclamation to you. You
[2:23:12] can do it. From there. It's easier. It's kind of.
[2:23:16] Small. Whereas the year 2026 marks the 250th anniversary of
[2:23:22] the founding of the United States of America. A nation
[2:23:25] established upon principles of liberty, justice, representative government, and the
[2:23:30] God - given rights of all people. And whereas Jesus
[2:23:34] Christ taught in John chapter 8, verse 32, ye shall
[2:23:38] know the truth. And the truth shall make you free.
[2:23:42] Reminding us all that liberty flourishes when founded upon truth,
[2:23:46] virtue, and respect for the God - given rights of
[2:23:48] all people. On behalf of our church, it is an
[2:23:52] honor to present this proclamation to the city of Lake
[2:23:55] Ilsinor. Thank you for your service to our community and
[2:24:00] for allowing us to be here this evening. Thank you.
[2:24:04] Colleagues, would you mind coming down and taking a photo
[2:24:07] with these folks?
[2:24:45] One, two. Three. We're going to do one more. One,
[2:24:48] two. Three. Thank you very much.
[2:25:02] Oh, he's. Like, I'll take it.
[2:25:22] Madam Clerk, next speaker, please. Our next speaker is Francis
[2:25:26] Mirabella. Hello, I'm Francis Mirabella. I work in Lake Elstner,
[2:25:31] a resident of Lake Elsinor grew up in Lake Alsinor,
[2:25:33] class of 94, Steve Monos. You know. I'm here just
[2:25:40] to discuss inner Heights Industrial Project. Option two data center
[2:25:44] currently in the SEQA process. Um, I'm sure you know
[2:25:47] of the change. org petition circulating that has over 7,
[2:25:51] 000 votes. Which is a substantial indication of resident opposition.
[2:25:57] I'm here tonight with a very simple request, and that's
[2:26:00] just to keep the existing zoning as is. Deny zone
[2:26:03] change number 2024 Dajo 1. And general amendment plan number
[2:26:08] 2024 01. According to the notice of preparation, this property
[2:26:13] is currently zoned for commercial office and rural mountainous residential.
[2:26:17] The applicant is asking the city to change the portions
[2:26:20] of it to M1 limited manufacturing for this industrial development,
[2:26:25] which is under option two, which includes a data center.
[2:26:27] So my question is simple. Why change the zoning. Our
[2:26:32] existing zoning already provides a protection we need. We do
[2:26:35] not need to make legal snore experiment when communities across
[2:26:38] the country already showing us what can happen when large
[2:26:41] data centers are located near residents. There's stories, just Google
[2:26:47] it. Chandler, Arizona, Vinland, New Jersey. Michigan, Laoul, Massachusetts. Gilroy,
[2:26:54] California, surrounding a large Amazon data center has raised serious
[2:27:00] questions about public awareness, land use approvals and community involvement.
[2:27:04] These communities are giving Lakelsonor warning. We should learn from
[2:27:08] them. These concerns go far beyond noise. They American lung
[2:27:13] association now specifically identifies data centers and increasing air pollution
[2:27:17] concern and warns that the air pollution can trigger asthma
[2:27:21] attacks and other health effects. Um, there's also concerns about
[2:27:26] enormous electricity demand, increased infrastructure needs, water consumption during drought
[2:27:32] conditions. Wastewater heat nighttime lighting, light pollution, wildlife impacts and
[2:27:37] the quality of life of nearby residents. Artificial nighttime lighting
[2:27:41] can disrupt sleep and interfere with wildlife and migratory birds.
[2:27:46] And data centers generate substantial heat. That must be continuously
[2:27:48] removed through cooling systems. We should be asking why would
[2:27:52] we voluntary add such large demands on our water and
[2:27:56] electrical systems when residents already care deeply about drought preparedness,
[2:28:01] reliability, electricity, reliable electricity and affordable utilities. But here is
[2:28:05] more important point. The applicant is requesting a conditional use
[2:28:10] permit M1 uses would within 100 feet of residential district.
[2:28:16] Why would we change a commercial office and rural mountainous
[2:28:19] residential zoning to manufacturing and then need a special permit
[2:28:23] because that manufacturing use is so close to residential property.
[2:28:27] We don't need to. I understand the EIR process, but
[2:28:31] an EIR does not require this council to prove a
[2:28:34] zone change. So my point is just keep it simple.
[2:28:39] If this project does not fit the zoning that exists
[2:28:41] today, then the city should not change the community and
[2:28:44] make the profit fit. There's no reason to remove that
[2:28:48] protection. Create the possibility of these, uh, create the possibilities
[2:28:53] these impacts and then spend years debating how to mitigate
[2:28:57] them. Thank you. Thank you.
[2:29:08] Next speaker, please. Our next speaker is Michelle Campbell. Good
[2:29:14] evening Mayor City Council members. Thank you so much for
[2:29:18] having me. My name is Michelle Campbell. I'm a resident
[2:29:21] of Lake Elseded. I lived here almost 15 years. I
[2:29:23] love this city. I moved away from LA and Long
[2:29:27] Beach. So I could be in a rural community. I
[2:29:29] have horse property. I love our land. The specific area
[2:29:33] where this data center proposal is going to be is
[2:29:36] one of the most beautiful little areas. And I love
[2:29:39] driving by that area. And I always envisioned it being
[2:29:42] a park. And when I found out that it's going
[2:29:44] to be an industrial center, I'm like, why would we
[2:29:46] need that right here? We don't need any more Amazon
[2:29:49] buildings. We don't need any more AI data centers. And
[2:29:52] I don't know if I can address the people of
[2:29:54] Lake Elsiednor, but my message to the people of Lake
[2:29:56] Elsinor is use less AI. Stop streaming. Stop buying stuff
[2:30:01] on Amazon. You are making the situation worse. We don't
[2:30:05] need artificial intelligence to take over our city. If you
[2:30:09] don't want a data center here, don't use data. Use
[2:30:12] less data. Don't stream. Don't watch YouTube. Don't TikTok. How
[2:30:16] many videos do we need of people's dogs on Facebook?
[2:30:19] Okay. No more TikTok, no more. We have to get
[2:30:22] serious. This is the way the future. It's like saying
[2:30:23] I don't like Teslas. Let's get rid of roads. I
[2:30:26] saw that. And I'm like, that is so brilliant. We
[2:30:28] want to use the computer, but we don't want to
[2:30:31] pay to have it running. And I do not want
[2:30:34] a data center. And like Ilsinor. When I found this
[2:30:36] out, my head almost blew right off. I'm like, that
[2:30:39] can't be. There's millions of miles elsewhere. Why pick like
[2:30:44] Kelsonor? This is the dream place. This is where you
[2:30:46] come to buy a home. Will you raise a family?
[2:30:48] We don't need a data center behind Walmart making all
[2:30:51] kinds of noise, disrupting our wildlife. Everyone in this room
[2:30:55] had, excuse me, had such great things to say, I
[2:30:57] don't even need to echo anything else of why we
[2:30:59] don't need it. All the data sounds reasonable. And I
[2:31:03] know you are reasonable adults that make excellent decisions. You
[2:31:06] were voted in by the people. And I just urge
[2:31:09] you to say no, to not change the ordinance, to
[2:31:13] do not change the zoning, to leave it the way
[2:31:15] it is and think about the people of like, else.
[2:31:18] Let's make it a park. Let's make it anything else.
[2:31:20] I know it's owned by someone else and you guys
[2:31:22] aren't the decision makers, but enough money you could buy
[2:31:25] anything. So let's just buy it from this owner and
[2:31:27] make it a like, else or dream extreme. Thank you.
[2:31:38] Next speaker, please. Our next speaker is Daniel Miller. Can
[2:31:48] you, sorry, good evening. My name is Daniel Miller. I've
[2:31:51] moved her in 2008 of October. I want to talk
[2:31:54] to you about the data centers in China. They have
[2:31:57] 437. They're advanced further along than we are. It's a
[2:32:02] digital currency over there. You have to use your phone
[2:32:04] if you go anywhere. They have flock cameras everywhere to
[2:32:08] watch everybody. They only have 437 data centers to control
[2:32:13] their whole population. U. S. is planning on having 8,
[2:32:17] 000 data centers. It sounds like a little overkill. So
[2:32:20] what are the real reasons? Take a logical step back.
[2:32:23] What do they really use in the data centers for?
[2:32:26] It's not to track us. It's something else. Some people
[2:32:29] are suggesting like in other nations. They're saying it's underground
[2:32:33] bunkers and cities for the elite. I don't know. But
[2:32:36] over 8, 000 in the United States is an overkill.
[2:32:39] And it's like the one person talked about the aid
[2:32:42] states, the Western states, the federal government stepped in the
[2:32:45] Colorado River is lower than normal. They're not allowed to
[2:32:49] make or they're not making as much electricity because of
[2:32:52] less water. And they're figuring out how they're going to
[2:32:55] ration the water to us aid state states. And that's
[2:32:59] without the data centers. And China, they've built their dating
[2:33:02] centers not where the people are at, but where the
[2:33:05] cold climates are out. Because in a colder climate, they
[2:33:08] don't need as much as much water. And it also
[2:33:12] cuts back on the electricity. Because if they're running cooler,
[2:33:15] it takes less electricity. Ask your question. Ask logically, why
[2:33:21] do they want to build a data center and a
[2:33:23] hot, dry climate? I'm a business person. I wouldn't build
[2:33:28] it there knowing it's going to cost me more money
[2:33:30] to run it. I would build it somewhere else. All
[2:33:33] of us have called customer service at some company were
[2:33:37] connected to. And someone answers a phone as an india
[2:33:41] or in the Philippines. And they have our account. They
[2:33:44] have everything there right in front of them. So needing
[2:33:47] a data center right where the people at. That's a
[2:33:50] lie that they're what they're telling you. And you look
[2:33:53] across all the other cities that have signed these contracts.
[2:33:56] They make you sign a non - disclosure contract. That
[2:33:59] means you sign it, read the people don't know what
[2:34:02] you signed away. Why are they keeping it secret. If
[2:34:06] it's just a data center for computers and all that,
[2:34:09] why is it hidden knowledge. And the fact is hearing
[2:34:14] California in the last six years, our governor has closed
[2:34:17] down over a million acres of farms in Northern California
[2:34:21] to pull the water to use it for the data
[2:34:24] centers up there. Because the data center is for Google
[2:34:27] and all the other big tech companies. They pay a
[2:34:30] lot more taxes because they're millionaires. So they've closed down
[2:34:34] food production in California for data centers. Three of those
[2:34:38] farms that were closed down were in the families that
[2:34:41] were in California before California was estate. They had the
[2:34:47] clothes down their farms. It started with Governor Brown. They
[2:34:50] went in there on their wheels. They put meters on
[2:34:52] their wells with charge them for their water. I see
[2:34:58] my time is up. I'll close. The, oh, again, I'm
[2:35:06] a water that she had talked about in Colorado. The
[2:35:10] data center they have planned here is equivalent for about
[2:35:12] 25, 000 homes. They will tell you that they recycle
[2:35:16] the water. And the other person pointed out the chemicals
[2:35:19] they put in there. They can't dump in the sewer.
[2:35:22] There's no filtering system. The polos chemicals out. When they
[2:35:25] dump it into the ground, it kills the water wells
[2:35:28] and it kills the farmers'ability to use it. And like
[2:35:32] Ilsinor, you have under 100, 000 homes with Lake Elan
[2:35:36] village. Now you're going to add another 25, 000 for
[2:35:39] water and about 248, 000 for the electricity drawn. How
[2:35:46] do you step back and look at the infrastructure? Mr.
[2:35:49] Miller. Thank you. Thank you.
[2:35:59] Next speaker, please. Our next speaker is Ace Vallejo.
[2:36:13] Hello, Mayor. Wanted to go ahead and continue with this
[2:36:16] asbestos issue at the, uh, ambassador tale. If it was
[2:36:21] there yesterday, it was probably their last month in the
[2:36:24] month before that and a year before that and so
[2:36:26] forth. Things would hold true for the, uh, military academy
[2:36:30] that's been sitting there all these years. So it looks
[2:36:34] like an arbitrary attack on the dream center to me.
[2:36:38] In my opinion. And I believe that. I see it.
[2:36:42] Don't like it. It's wrong. And the gear hard property
[2:36:45] that got sold under the city that also wanted it.
[2:36:51] Is, I believe one of the main reasons that we're
[2:36:53] here. So thank you. Next speaker, please. And the last
[2:37:01] weeker I have is Reuben via mill.
[2:37:17] Boards. Uh, I'm a seven year veteran of the U.
[2:37:21] S. Navy. All my buddies are currently on the USS
[2:37:24] Abraham Lincoln. And I don't want a data center. And
[2:37:28] I don't enjoy hearing the machinery. So if we're going
[2:37:34] to be wearing about a constant buzz, it just is
[2:37:40] not good for veterans. Um, I like the peace and
[2:37:43] quiet in Lakeland village. But apart from that, my second
[2:37:47] point, while I was at EOS Lake Elsinor, I noticed
[2:37:52] a flock camera was installed right in the front. Of
[2:37:55] my street on Grand Avenue. And I'm just wondering if
[2:37:59] we're going to become a surveillance state. And like, we're
[2:38:02] going to see more of that. I'm just wondering. Uh,
[2:38:04] what we're going to do with that forward. Thank you.
[2:38:08] Thank you. The item's not on the agenda, sir, so
[2:38:13] we can't have a back and forth. Okay. Um, our,
[2:38:16] do I need to go forward to Riverside County? Our
[2:38:19] police chief is right there. If you tell him where
[2:38:21] on Grand Avenue you are, he can tell you whether
[2:38:24] it's city or county. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. And
[2:38:27] then also I appreciate the sheriffs. You're doing God's work.
[2:38:32] But I drive a 2022 BMW 745e. And you guys
[2:38:36] keep pulling U - turns when I want to get
[2:38:38] a late night snack to 7 - Eleven. So if
[2:38:43] you guys are looking for bad guys, like I'll give
[2:38:45] you a note, just, y'all keep doing U - turns
[2:38:49] and like follow me blocks. Like. Alright, that's it. Thank
[2:38:52] you. Thank you, Ruben. Madam Clerk, that concludes our speakers.
[2:39:00] Yes, sir. Very good. Then we'll move quickly to city
[2:39:03] manager comments. Nothing seems other than shout out to my
[2:39:11] wife Renee. Yesterday was our 30th wedding anniversary. All right.
[2:39:16] If you asked her, she'll tell you it feels like
[2:39:19] 50 years. Madam attorney comments? Uh, just two quick comments.
[2:39:27] Um, I failed when we were talking about the, uh,
[2:39:30] dream center, the ambassador hotel property. The city did issue
[2:39:35] a press release today. That is available to anyone who
[2:39:37] wants it. Uh, the building, there has been some misinformation.
[2:39:41] The building is not a historic structure. Um, that is
[2:39:46] absolutely clear. And the city's actions have not been arbitrary.
[2:39:49] There's been no rush to judgement. The city acted after
[2:39:53] many, many years in accordance with a court order. And
[2:39:57] we will comply with the current writ that pauses the,
[2:40:00] uh, any activity there. Thank you. Thank you. It takes
[2:40:04] us up to the dais and council member comments. Council
[2:40:08] member Carroll. Uh, yes, thank you so much, Mayor. Uh,
[2:40:12] first I'd like to announce, uh, it was Mayor Pro
[2:40:15] Tem's birthday. And we didn't get an opportunity to saying
[2:40:17] happy birthday earlier. So if y'all don't mind, in entertain
[2:40:21] me an opportunity to sing happy birthday to mayor pro
[2:40:23] time, Tim Sheridan, I will kick it off. Happy birthday
[2:40:29] to you. Happy birthday to you happy birthday, dear mayor
[2:40:37] protect him, Sheridan happy birthday to you. Thank you. I
[2:40:46] was under the impression when you turned 35, you don't
[2:40:49] get your birthday. Happy birthday saying to you. But thank
[2:40:53] you. Yes. He's an amazing person, truly. With that, before
[2:40:59] I get to my first slide, I want to give
[2:41:02] a large thank you to somebody that's near and dear
[2:41:05] to my heart and in the Lake Yelsednor Lord, quite
[2:41:08] famous Jeannie Corral is in our audience, um, and she's
[2:41:12] one of the most kind, amazing individuals, um, and so,
[2:41:16] um, yes, please, please give her. 24 years on the
[2:41:20] Lake Austrian Unified School Board four years on the Riverside
[2:41:23] County Office of Education, uh, is that correct? Right. So
[2:41:30] 28 years total, public service helping educate our youth here
[2:41:34] in Riverside County and Lake Yelsoynor and surrounding communities that
[2:41:38] are touched by LUSD. So, so to hear Jeannie's words
[2:41:43] are quite impactful tonight. Amongst all of yours, it's inappropriate
[2:41:46] for me to comment on my personal feelings as I
[2:41:48] would love to retain my vote and show my true
[2:41:51] feelings on, uh, the data center. Um, with that, I
[2:41:55] will take my first slide. Uh, National Night Out, I
[2:41:59] want to say thank you to all those in public
[2:42:01] service, uh, code enforcement police, our sheriffs here at Riverside
[2:42:05] County Sheriff's and Cal Fire here that service our committee
[2:42:09] here in Lake Elsinor. On the far bottom left, I
[2:42:12] was able to attend National Night Out with my best
[2:42:14] friend, my wife, Nicole. And so it was truly amazing.
[2:42:18] If you missed out, I would encourage you to bring
[2:42:20] your kids, grandkids, or even yourselves to go see all
[2:42:23] the amazing tools and equipment that our community utilizes on
[2:42:27] a daily basis to help keep everybody safe. And with
[2:42:30] that, I would love to say thank you to those
[2:42:32] that serve on the far right, not only city staff,
[2:42:35] but also the sheriff's department. There's a lot of sacrifices
[2:42:38] made every day by these individuals. And most, most of
[2:42:41] them are made to keep us safe. So thank you.
[2:42:44] And with that, I say goodnight. Thank you, Councilmember Tisdale.
[2:42:50] Thank you, Mayor. So I want to start out by
[2:42:53] thanking everyone for coming out tonight. As the mayor said,
[2:42:57] you know, when things aren't any agenda, we can't really
[2:42:59] talk about it. And plus the item specifically about data
[2:43:03] centers. But let me just say a couple of things,
[2:43:06] not specifically about innit centers, but this council was not
[2:43:09] moved by people that come to town with promises. So
[2:43:14] I want to be clear on that. So, you know,
[2:43:16] people say, let's build a warehouse. It's going to create
[2:43:20] X number of jobs, construction jobs. Well, you know, we're
[2:43:24] quick to go BS because we know that most companies
[2:43:27] come in, they bring their own crews, right? And then
[2:43:29] we also look at the data and we know how
[2:43:32] many jobs it will actually create. And in Lake Ilsinore,
[2:43:36] about 10 to 15 percent of the people actually work
[2:43:40] in Lake housenor that living like outnor. So we know
[2:43:43] the numbers. And so the promises of money and all
[2:43:47] those other things that's going to sway this council. And
[2:43:49] I don't want to speak for them. But I've been
[2:43:52] with them a long time. And so, well, this one's
[2:43:54] new. But where everybody else, you know, we've been, we've
[2:43:58] been here a long time. So I just want you
[2:44:00] guys to understand that we hear you. And we're not
[2:44:03] swayed by all the swag and all the other stuff.
[2:44:06] So just sort of keep that in mind. And then
[2:44:09] I'll ask that you just be patient with this and
[2:44:11] let this thing sort of work through the process. And
[2:44:14] then, you know, we're going to get the best outcome
[2:44:15] that we can get. I love Lake Elsinor. I've been
[2:44:18] here since 1998. And you know, this is my home.
[2:44:22] I've raised my kids here. My daughter, I'm going to
[2:44:25] talk about her later, but we're going to put her
[2:44:26] banner up on the street because she was born and
[2:44:28] raised here. And now she's serving. So, you know, this
[2:44:31] city is important to me. And the wildlife and everything
[2:44:34] is important to me. I grew up on a little
[2:44:35] farm in Oregon, beaberton, when it was a farm in
[2:44:39] Beaverton, which is not no more. But so I get
[2:44:41] it. So those of you that are concerned about all
[2:44:43] this stuff, I hear you. So I just wanted to
[2:44:46] say that. I'll go on to my first slide. All
[2:44:54] right. So, um, I sit on our, um, task force,
[2:44:59] me and Councilman Carroll for our homeless. We have a
[2:45:02] homeless outreach task force. And I just want to just,
[2:45:06] the numbers are up there. I'm not going through all
[2:45:07] the numbers. But I just want to point out a
[2:45:09] couple of things. Like look at the contacts and stuff.
[2:45:12] These are what our folks do every day. So sitting
[2:45:15] at our sheriff's department, our code enforcement. We're out there
[2:45:18] every day making contacts, trying to help people get them
[2:45:21] off the street. So it takes a lot of context
[2:45:24] to get one person to actually come in for services.
[2:45:27] And the people that are in our city are the
[2:45:29] hardcore homeless. You know, and most of them don't want
[2:45:33] help because they don't understand that they need help for
[2:45:35] various reasons. Behavior health issues, drugs, you name it. But
[2:45:39] I just want you to know, and these are just
[2:45:41] numbers, but I just want you to know that our
[2:45:43] city takes it serious and we are working extremely hard.
[2:45:47] And you can help us in a couple of ways.
[2:45:50] One, please don't give it to the homeless. So I
[2:45:52] was talking to a young lady up in, um, Tusney
[2:45:56] Hills. And you know, she's, she thinks she's doing the
[2:45:58] right thing her and her daughter go out and he
[2:46:00] feed the homeless. Well, some of these people are dangerous
[2:46:03] because of the very reasons that I talked about. But
[2:46:06] all we're doing is keeping them on the street when
[2:46:08] we help them. So we have a place for them.
[2:46:11] Anybody that wants help in Lake Osednor right now, we
[2:46:13] can get them help. We have the ability to do
[2:46:15] that. So that's how you can help. And then also
[2:46:18] go use our app, my brain did here. Ellie alert.
[2:46:26] And alert LE, thank you. And then, you know, at
[2:46:30] a geotract them so that when we go out, weekly,
[2:46:34] every week, our first go out, they do clean ups
[2:46:36] and they make contacts with people so that we can
[2:46:38] identify them. And that will help us a whole lot.
[2:46:41] So again, tell your neighbors, please don't give food. Don't
[2:46:43] give water. Don't give tents. Don't give stuff that's going
[2:46:45] to keep them on the streets. But report them so
[2:46:47] that we can get them. Our compassion is to get
[2:46:49] people back in the society and help them invest we
[2:46:51] can. Okay. And so we're not trying to wound them
[2:46:55] up, stick them in jail, chasing down the street or
[2:46:56] anything else. We want to help people. But you guys
[2:46:58] can help us by helping them. So I just want
[2:47:00] to throw that out there. Next slide, please. So we
[2:47:04] ended our free concert series on launch point with boots
[2:47:08] in the sand. So there's me with my best friend.
[2:47:11] That photo's AI. That is. So don't get jealous over
[2:47:17] the arms young man. You see what I have to
[2:47:22] put up with the new people. So, so we take
[2:47:25] the boots in the sand part very seriously. So it
[2:47:28] was, it was a very fun night. I want to
[2:47:30] thank city staff and all that they do for putting
[2:47:32] these things together, make these events for our community. It
[2:47:35] was a whole lot of fun. So again, I want
[2:47:37] to thank all of them. All right. And then my
[2:47:40] last slide. So last council meeting, I wasn't here because
[2:47:44] I was in San Antonio, Texas. And, um, for my
[2:47:49] daughter's graduation. So there is another Tisdell that server in
[2:47:53] uniform. So I was in a Marine Corps. And so
[2:47:55] I am a proud Air Force dad. And so aired
[2:47:59] Tisdo is now in Fort Meed for training. And so,
[2:48:03] um, I don't know where she's going to end up,
[2:48:04] but I'm so proud of her that she was willing
[2:48:06] to serve. So with that, thank you so much. So,
[2:48:13] so those of you that are veterans, please welcome my
[2:48:16] daughter to our community. So thank you. Thank you honorable
[2:48:19] mayor. Thank you, sir. Councilmember monos. Thank you honorable mayor.
[2:48:23] I didn't know there was going to be a gun
[2:48:24] show at boots at the sand. You know, a lot
[2:48:32] of folks came out tonight to talk about the data
[2:48:34] center. You probably saw my face kind of like, you
[2:48:36] know, and I just have to say, um, first off,
[2:48:40] thank you everybody that's come out. I can't talk about
[2:48:44] the project as Councilman Carroll mentioned. There's specific and very
[2:48:49] strict penalties against, you know, voting on items where there's
[2:48:52] a conflict. Finds removal of office jail time. And so
[2:48:58] talking about that is a little bit dangerous. Um, and
[2:49:02] especially for folks that are elected in the office. And
[2:49:05] I certainly wouldn't want to conflict myself so that I
[2:49:08] couldn't vote on the project. Um, but I will say
[2:49:12] this. I'm very upset. To see, this is the most
[2:49:17] number of people I've seen showing up to the last
[2:49:19] two meetings over a subject. And I'm very, very upset
[2:49:22] about that because you listen to the people and you
[2:49:25] hear all the research that's being done and the folk,
[2:49:28] things that people are saying. You can tell they kind
[2:49:30] of looked into it and spent some time on it.
[2:49:33] And not only that took time off of your day
[2:49:35] to go ahead and come down here and voice your
[2:49:36] opinion and make sure that we heard it. Right? This
[2:49:39] is a situation that's not even going to be decided
[2:49:42] upon for at least a year. And, um, I, I
[2:49:47] wish I could come out and have a conversation with
[2:49:50] you about this and respond, um, to have people scared
[2:49:53] for a year's, you know, that's a problem for me,
[2:49:57] especially my people, people I grew up with and, you
[2:50:00] know, um, so can't talk about the project, unfortunately. That's
[2:50:06] just the way that it is. Um, I can't say
[2:50:09] this. Um, I'm going to ask our attorney to go
[2:50:13] ahead and draft, uh, moratorium on data centers. For the
[2:50:18] city of Lake Elsar for the next meeting. Uh, that
[2:50:21] will not stop. The application process for the current application.
[2:50:26] It's not a referendum. The current data center application. That's
[2:50:31] in. Or if it continues as a data center, perhaps
[2:50:34] the reason why your EIR hasn't started to be processed
[2:50:38] as maybe they're making amendments. We don't know. Okay. I'm
[2:50:42] not, I'm not just kind of speaking out loud here.
[2:50:44] Right. Please don't sue me. Uh, but, but, uh, we
[2:50:48] can certainly go ahead and take that up for consideration.
[2:50:50] And I will, uh, tip maybe. No, no, I'm not
[2:50:54] going to say that. All right. So if you could
[2:50:56] bring that to the next meeting, that'd be great. Next
[2:51:00] up, we had some additional comments about the ambassador hotel
[2:51:04] that I just want to go ahead and make mention.
[2:51:06] Um, I'm going to say something very nice. The folks
[2:51:09] with the dream center are phenomenal human beings. They have
[2:51:12] adopted our street. They clean up trash on Saturdays. They
[2:51:16] run a heck of a coffee shop. Uh, they've been
[2:51:20] nothing but a positive. We were very concerned about, um,
[2:51:25] a group coming onto the city coming to the city
[2:51:27] when they first applied to come to the city. And,
[2:51:30] uh, they have been amazing ambassadors to the community. Um,
[2:51:36] the, the issues with the ambassador of hotel has nothing
[2:51:40] to do with the people that are involved. Uh, and
[2:51:43] any innuendo by anyone that would say anything. About the
[2:51:47] city having any type of personal vendetta against a group
[2:51:52] of individuals should be thrown out of here. Honestly. Thank
[2:51:56] you for removing yourself. So, uh, that's all I have
[2:51:59] to say about that. Uh, attended A luck. Um, today
[2:52:05] the airport land use commission just updated the March air
[2:52:09] reserve base inland port. Airport land use compatibility plan. That's
[2:52:14] a mouthful. This was a six year project, five year
[2:52:18] project. A little over five years. And, uh, it was
[2:52:21] approved and it will go for a second reading at
[2:52:24] the next meeting. So, uh, we got that done very,
[2:52:27] very proud of that. And it's going to make the
[2:52:30] community safer for the communities and all the development that
[2:52:33] happens right around the March Air Reserve base. I want
[2:52:38] to thank, uh, Councilman Bertisdale for bringing the homeless task
[2:52:43] force update. Our preview, our colleague who has moved on
[2:52:48] to the, uh, assembly, uh, used to do those quarterly.
[2:52:52] And I wondered if at it disappeared, I was going
[2:52:54] to make a request for that here recently and you
[2:52:56] brought it up. Thank you so much. Um, I think
[2:52:59] everybody's truly interested in that information. Um, as far as
[2:53:02] the flock cameras go, flock cameras are, uh, they are
[2:53:06] subject to state laws that restrict the type of use
[2:53:11] and the storage for information acquired by flock cameras. I've
[2:53:15] seen the social media posts. And I will just say
[2:53:19] that if some of the things that are in the
[2:53:20] social media posts are being conducted, uh, by the company
[2:53:25] here in the state of California, then they are breaking
[2:53:27] the law. And I think that comes with jail time.
[2:53:31] So I don't know how to reconcile that. I know
[2:53:33] that I've asked staff to go ahead and, uh, possibly
[2:53:38] allow me to go ahead and personally review the information
[2:53:41] that's being collected and how it's managed. And we're working
[2:53:44] on, uh, maybe doing a little tourist trip and whatnot.
[2:53:48] Cause I share those concerns too. That was the first
[2:53:50] concern I had one. We started talking about the flock
[2:53:53] cameras. But the state law certainly eased those concerns. It's
[2:53:58] a big deal. Uh, let's see here. Asked also asked
[2:54:02] staff to go ahead and review our ADU ordinance, the
[2:54:04] ADU ordinance is not aligned with state law, uh, and
[2:54:08] there were some questions about that. And then finally, the
[2:54:11] mayor pro tim, Tim Sherred. And thank you for your
[2:54:14] service here on the council. Happy birthday. Many happy returns.
[2:54:17] I hope your actual birthday is a very special day.
[2:54:21] Thank you honorable mayor. No, it's not today. Thank you,
[2:54:24] sir. Mayor Pro Tim Sheridan. Thank you Mayor McGee. Good
[2:54:27] evening everyone. Thank you for singing happy birthday to me.
[2:54:29] I do appreciate that very much. I am the representative
[2:54:32] on RTA and I wanted to put up a slide
[2:54:36] to let you know that all summer long you can
[2:54:39] ride the RTA bus for 25 cents. It's a pretty
[2:54:42] good deal. And as you may or may not know,
[2:54:45] you can take the bus from Lake Elsinor to Disneyland.
[2:54:48] Takes a minute or two to get there, but it's
[2:54:50] not a bad deal for 25 cents. And you can
[2:54:52] write it back to. Also youth ride - free and
[2:54:56] they will ride free through the end of 2027. So
[2:55:00] if you're 18 or younger, you can ride the RTA
[2:55:02] bus, uh, for free until next year. Go to the
[2:55:07] next slide, please. Council member Carolyn. I had an opportunity
[2:55:11] to attend the Elsiednor Valley Regional Pony Baseball Leadership and
[2:55:16] Certification weekend. This past weekend in Canyon Hills. Former Los
[2:55:22] Angeles, Dodger Reggie Smith was there. Uh, he, of course,
[2:55:26] seven - time major league baseball all - star and
[2:55:28] a 1981 world champion, a terrific person. In the picture
[2:55:32] with council member Carolyn I, is Izzy. Michelle Israel is
[2:55:37] his full name. Everybody knows him. Is Izzy? And he
[2:55:40] held this two day leadership and certification weekend. It was
[2:55:45] a great success. One of the things that Izzy is
[2:55:50] doing with pony baseball and, uh, BRG, his other group,
[2:55:54] baseball resource group is to bring baseball to our area
[2:56:00] on a very regular basis. Of course, uh, baseball is
[2:56:04] the American pastime. And so we appreciate what he does.
[2:56:08] And it was great to see Reggie Smith in our
[2:56:09] city as well. And with that, I would say thank
[2:56:12] you for your time and attention, mayor. Thank you very
[2:56:15] much, Mayor Protown. And happy birthday, sir. Thank you. First,
[2:56:22] I want to recognize the fact that mayor protem Sheridan,
[2:56:26] Council Member Tisdale and Councilmember Carroll were all unopposed in
[2:56:31] their bid for re - election. And so they will
[2:56:33] be continuing to serve with us up here. I just
[2:56:36] wanted to take a moment to recognize that. Well done,
[2:56:39] gentlemen. And for those of you that came out tonight,
[2:56:48] regarding the data center, I want to thank you for
[2:56:50] your passion and your decorum. And the message has been
[2:56:56] received. And as I said last time, if the developer
[2:57:00] can't hear you, they're tone deaf. Moving on. Let's go
[2:57:06] to the first slide. Sports car club of America will
[2:57:10] be having their autocross event. This is the Los Angeles
[2:57:14] chapter of SCCA. They will be here at Diamond Stadium.
[2:57:19] Saturday and Sunday. They usually get started between nine and
[2:57:23] nine 30 a. m. Come down, check out the cars.
[2:57:27] It costs you nothing. And if you fill out a
[2:57:29] waiver, you can ride with them. Moving now to Sunday,
[2:57:35] August 23rd, the official grand opening of the ice cave.
[2:57:40] This is on cord and road next to Casade Mobile.
[2:57:45] They've got their big sign up on the road. You
[2:57:47] can't miss it anymore. What a great place to spend
[2:57:51] August. And with that again, I thank you for your
[2:57:55] attendance and your decorum. And we are adjourned.