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All right. I hereby call the regular meeting of the

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Planning Commission to order and welcome everybody. This is probably

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one of the most full houses we've seen in quite

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some time. So thank you all for coming. Please stand

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for the Pledge of Allegiance. Mr. Grayed us tonight. Do

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you lead us tonight. I pledge allegiance to the fight

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of the United States of America. And to the Republic

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for witch it stands, a nation under God, indivisible with

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liberty and justice for all. Thank you, maybe seated. Will

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you please call the roll. Commissioner Martin. Here. Commissioner Peace.

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President. Commissioner Gray. Present. Vice chair divorce. Present. And chair

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Peters. Present. All right. Secretary, have we received any

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request to speak on non - agendaised items? We have

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not. All right. Moving on to the consent calendar. We

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have one item on the consent calendar that needs approval.

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May have a motion to approve the consent calendar.

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All right, we have a motion by commissioner gray, a

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second by commissioner Martin. Please record your vote.

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Hi, I believe that that passes. That motion passes unanimously.

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Unanimously, thank you. All right. Moving on to the public

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hearing item. We have item number 6. 1 planning application

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number 20 - 103 Baker Street Warehouse Project. A proposal

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to develop two warehouse buildings, totaling 1, 451, 000, or

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451 square feet and related site improvements on the approximate

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140 acre site located at the intersection of Baker Street

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and Pearce Street. The public hearing is now open and

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the time is 602. Are there any disclosures from commissioners.

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No. Secretary, do you have proof of publication that notices

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as required by law have been given? Yes, ma'am. Did

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we have the complete file of exhibits correspondence and other

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documents? Yes, we do. Are there any written communications on

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this matter. Yes, we've received 20 written communications. They were

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entered into the public record and distributed to the planning

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commission and to the public. All right. City staff, please

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introduce yourself and provide a staff report on this item.

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Thank you, Chair. And good evening, commissioners. My name is

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Nancy Winn, Planning Manager with the Community Development Department. The

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item before you tonight is planning application number 2020 -

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103. Which is for the industrial project known as the

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Baker Street Warehouse Project. So the project site is located

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at the intersection of Baker and Peer Streets. The site

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is currently has two different industrial zones. It has M1,

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which is limited manufacturing, as well as M2, which is

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general manufacturing. So the project site is currently vacant and

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undeveloped and encompasses approximately 140 acres. There's our three, so

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a few different project components. So the first is the

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warehouse development, which would be 60, about 65 acres, seven

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acres would be for offsite improvements and a little over

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33 acres would be restored for conservation purposes. There's also

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about a two and a half acre buffer zone in

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between the warehouse and the rest, the conservation area. So

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this exhibit here kind of shows those different various components

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with the red being the warehouse development, the green being

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the conservation area, and then the oranges are the off

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- site improvements. And then the sliberal of purple right

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in between the orange and the green that will act

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as the buffer zone. So the proposed project is, as

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I mentioned, an industrial development with two warehouse buildings totaling

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approximately one million square feet. So the project includes several

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planning application requests, which I've listed here, and I'll run

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through quickly. So there's a zone change to change two

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of the M1 parcels into M2 for zoning consistency. There's

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a tentative parcel map associated with the project into two

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parcels. Design review to establish the design for the buildings

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as well as the project site. The CUP to allow

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M2 uses within 300 feet of a residential zone, a

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second CUP request to exceed the 45 - foot building

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height. And lastly, a development agreement or a DA to

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specify fee contributions among other items that are above and

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beyond the development requirements. So this is the site plan,

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which shows the building one along the property frontage on

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Peer Street and building two right behind it to the

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rear of the project site. So the project site would

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have ample landscaping throughout the site, including a perimeter landscaping

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that would include large 24 and 36 inch box trees.

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So as I mentioned in my previous slide, the project

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is requesting a zone change. Um, in it specifically only

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affecting two of the M1 parcels, um, so if you

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look at the current zoning exhibit, it's the, um, lighter

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blue. And then adjacent, you can see the existing M2.

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all end up being M2 just for consistent zoning throughout

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the project site. The general plan LEN uses as a

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nation remains the scene. It would still be limited industrial.

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And the project does not involve any other land use

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changes to the surrounding, um, properties, including any of the

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residential zone properties. So the next few slides are renderings

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of the, um, proposed design. So the, this one shows

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the, um. Kind of an overview of both buildings or

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the project site as you're driving along baker. Baker street,

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excuse me. And then this is building one, um, also

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showing the view from Baker Street. And then of course

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we have building two. In conjunction with the design review.

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The project is requesting a parking reduction, um, which staff

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is supportive of. Because it, uh, it's supported by a

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parking study. And the parking study, um, reveals several things

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in order to come to the conclusion that the proposed

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parking rate would be appropriate. So there was comparison of

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the cities, um, warehousing parking requirement against a nationwide average.

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Also comparison with our surrounding, um, neighboring cities that immediately

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adjacent one as well as more regional. The cities that

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have, um, more warehousing developments. And then lastly, there was

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also surveys at three similar scale warehouse buildings. And I

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find an interest to staff founding interesting enough that the

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survey counts showed that there is actually a pretty big

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surplus of parking available. So for that reason, um, we

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don't anticipate a parking impact. To occur here. But the

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project does include a condition of approval to address any

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potential, if there are any potential parking impacts in the

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future. Okay. So as for the two CUPs, as I

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mentioned, the first one is to allow M2 uses within

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a 300 feet of a residential zone, um, which is

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measured from property lying to property line. So even though

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the project is adjacent to a resident ja zone, the

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properties are currently undeveloped, but nonetheless, the project's building especially

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the loading docks as well as the parking areas have

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been designed to create a buffer between the project and

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the existing and future residential uses. And then the second

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CUP is to exceed the 45 foot building height. So

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both buildings are requesting to increase the height due to

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the design. And the increased height you'll see is primarily

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at the front of the buildings, um, which features an

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enhanced corner design that helps, um, helps and better guide

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visitors to the main entrances. So the project, so the

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city council adopted a good naper policy. And that was

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specifically in response to some of the large - scale

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warehousing projects that the inland empire region has been experiencing.

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good neighbor policy, just to back up really quickly. This

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policy only applies to buildings that are over 250, 000

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square feet. So in this case, it only applies to

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building two, because building two is 788, 000 versus the

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other one is only 212. So some of the compliance

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features of building to, the loading docs, the parking areas,

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the truck bays are located over a thousand feet from

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the nearest residences. The loading docs truck bays are also

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oriented away from the residences. So they don't face the

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residency on the opposite other side of the building. There's

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multiple access points, um, with three lanes each. So they're

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just going to provide adequate onset queuing to prevent any,

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um, spillover traffic unto the public streets. Um, as I

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mentioned earlier, perimeter landscaping with large 24 and 36 inch

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box trees as well as a screening wall. And then

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of course the condition of approval included to make sure

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that, um, going into plant trick pride to issuance of

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building permits that the project continues to comply with the

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good neighborhood policy. So I just want to quickly touch

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on the tentative parcel map associated with the project. So

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as I said earlier, the 10 existing parcels that the

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warehouse buildings are going to be developed on. They're all

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going to be merge or consolidated into two parcels. Parcel

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one and parcel two with one building on each parcel.

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parking lot. There'll reciprocal axis or share to access agreement

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would be required. And lastly, the project concludes, like I

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said, a DA, her development agreement, um, the developer has

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agreed to contribute nine million dollars to the city, which

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would go towards future roadway improvements, um, and by the

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way, the project would be required to do street improvements

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along their project frontage. So the nine million dollars is

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in addition to that. Exchange for the contribution, the project

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receives, um, longer entitlement period. So instead of the typical

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two year that's in the menu super code, the project

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would have seven years. And then, um, the cities development

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impact fees are not applicable to the project. So I

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know the wording here is kind of squeeze and small,

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um, but staff is recommending that the planning commission adopt

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the following resolutions and recommend that the city council certify

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the project's environmental impact report as well as approve the

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project's applications requests. So that concludes my staff presentation, but

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the applicant has also prepared a presentation for you tonight.

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All right. Thank you very much.

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There we go. Better now. Honorable chair, vice chair and

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commissioners. My name is Daned Planjin. I'm with EPD solutions

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and our team's been representing ecosystem investment partners. Since the

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beginning of the Baker Street project. This entitlement has taken

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six and a half years. And it wouldn't be possible

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without all the support from staff. Um, everyone in every

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department here has been along our side helping us make

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sure that we're bringing forth the best possible project possible.

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We'd also like to extend our appreciation for the support

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from the Riverside County Conservation Authority in the California Fish

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and Wildlife for their support throughout this process. Ecosystem investment

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partners is a private equity real estate firm that supports

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ecological restoration projects. Their vision is clear. Balanced biological restoration

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and conservation with e - commerce. They're currently have 55

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active mitigation banks and restoration projects across 13 states. And

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since 2019, EIP is partnered with the RCA to assemble

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land with critical conservation value alongside surplus land for development.

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The baker project is the poster child for this initiative.

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As many may not know, EIP has been in this

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community for a lot longer than the baker project, Riverside

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legacy, also known as Walker Canyon, was an initiative brought

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forward by EIP. Ultimately 240 acres were put into conservation.

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Um, with the RCA.

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This project also has been no small feat in terms

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of the acquisition and the assemblage that was required as

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part of the project. In total 15 different parcels were

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acquired. The 10 outlined in red is the development footprint.

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And the five outlined in yellow are those that have

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already been conveyed to the RCA for conservation and perpetuity.

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The land use is limited industrial. The project is consistent

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with the general plan. The zoning is M1 and M2

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split. The project is proposing a change of zone to

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M2. And this is really to bring in the best

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possible use we can. Um, the full range of industrial

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and manufacturing use is that are accessible under the M2.

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Possible growth and employment. Triple A credit tenant. Also building

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specifications. Today's day and age is requiring the best out

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there in the industry. And we want to make sure

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that this project is able to provide for that. Also

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the M2 opens up for more skilled uses that will

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allow for the highs paying jobs. A

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little bit of history on this property. It's been industrial.

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It has had an industrial land use for more than

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30 years. And that there are known industrial plan uses

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that date back to pre - city and corporation on

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the site. It's also included within the business district of

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the city's general plan. The purpose of that general plan

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is to encourage industrial and commercial uses with sensitivity to

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surrounding areas such as floodways, wetlands and floodplains.

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The site has a lot of existing challenges that we've

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had to work through over the past six and a

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half years. Two of those are the Southern California Edison

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easements as well as the topography of the site. Outlined

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on your screen is an exhibit of our site plan,

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which shows two of the SE easements in high voltage

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utility lines that run through the site. The first is

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a 330 foot SE easement and utilitylines that run perpendicular

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between building one and building two. Also the IV Glen

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high voltage steel poles run along the property's frontage of

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Baker. Southern California Edison has strict requirements for development within

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these areas that have posed challenges for us that we've

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had to work through to make sure that the plan

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works. Additionally, the topography. And actually through the design process,

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this constraint is actually proven to be a benefit. And

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that the site slopes, uh, very extreme to the top

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of a hill. And through our design, uh, the area

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outlined in red is actually going to be a retaining

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wall condition at the rear of the property. That's the

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approximate location that the property will not be visible from

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any of the residential communities to the rear of the

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property. So as you head west towards Pear Street, it

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comes back to grade. As you go away from Peer

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Street down Baker, the slope comes up and ultimately within

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that area, it's not visible.

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As mentioned, there is a large biological component part of

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this project. EIP is spent. Approximately 3. 75 million dollars.

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In terms of tying up this area of land. And

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this area's already been conveyed to the RCA for conservation

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and perpetuity. The project helps the city of Lake Elsinore

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achieve the MSHCP reserve assembly requirements. And contributes to the

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wide area plan for the ultimate conservation goal of 500,

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000 acres. There's different repairing and riverine habitat that will

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be addressed through the project. That includes three vernal pools.

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Two, which will be expanded as well as several sensitive

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plants that will either be protected in place or restored

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through the conservation area. The property will

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use baker and nickels to the I - 215 freeway.

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The city - led current general planned update includes Baker

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and Nichols within the circulation element for truck access.

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So related to traffic generation throughout a lot of our

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community outreach meetings that we've had, a lot of conversations

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that I've been personally involved in, inquiring about the use

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that we're proposing concerns related to the traffic generation. And

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I guess questions as to why we aren't proposing a

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mixed use or a residential compatibility there. Um, other than

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it not being allowed within the zoning designation and the

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general plan, um, I think it was interesting that we

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went ahead and shared this. So this is a daily

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trips comparison by use. The baker project is on the

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far left. And as you can see, we did a

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comparison against other uses that could potentially go on the

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site such as business park, medium residential, commercial and mixed

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use. As you can see, the industrial project generates far

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fewer or the least amount of trips out of any

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of the other alternative uses that could be considered.

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As Nancy mentioned, there's certain offsite improvements that the project's

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committed to making the build out of Baker Street along

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the frontage, which is the general plan road. The realignment

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of Baker into nickels for its ultimate configuration as coordinated

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with the engineering department. The signalization of Baker and Nichols

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and the build - out appear street along the project

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frontage. These two renderings were shared, but ultimately I just

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want to acknowledge that we spent our great deal of

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time and effort working with staff to make sure that

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the architectural enhancements in the futures of the building are

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compatible with the surrounding area. Ensuring that the truck court

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and screening from the public right - of - way

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was addressed. And also that there's an abundance of landscaping

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and screening. I believe Nancy also mentioned this, but the

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project is in compliant with all sitting and design guidelines

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of the good neighbor policy. Um, well, the good neighbor

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policy doesn't apply to buildings under 250, 000 square feet.

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We did every attempt necessary to make sure that we

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could also ensure that that building was also designed to

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meet everything that we could. It's also in compliance with

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all the construction and operational measures of the Ganebra policy.

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In terms of economic benefits, about 350, 000 dollars is

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anticipated to go to the city's general fund annually. Job

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creation and labor income, both on a construction basis as

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well as an ongoing operational basis. One - time fees,

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so approximately 870, 000 dollars to the Lake Elsanor Unified

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School District 10. 5 million in terms of local and

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regional transportation and fire contributions, as well as 3. 9

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million to other agencies. Some of those agencies include the

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water district, um, MSHCP mitigation fees, and final engineering plan

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check fees at the applicant will pay toward to the

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city. Related to the development agreement. We spent a great

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deal of time with city managers'office, really working through this.

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And I think the major calling and requests from the

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city was we need money, and we need money sooner.

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And so that's how we've structured the development agreement. Um,

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certain milestones that I would say are a little bit

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abnormal for the types of projects that we work on

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to try and get fund sooner so that those funds

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can be put to work. Um, I think overall we

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acknowledge that this area needs improvements. These are regional issues.

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They need regional solutioning. We feel really good behind the

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contribution that we're making so that this money can be

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put to work and that there can be an improvement

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made out here. Community outreach, community outreach has been a

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big part of our initiative, um, we've really have tried

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and I've let all those efforts to be transparent and

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truthful, making sure that we, you know, understand what the

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community's concerns are, you know, revise our plans and do

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what we can to work with them. We've had four

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community outreach meetings, two in 2024 and two more recently

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in 2026. Um, and it's been a big part of,

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you know, what we've done and how we've showed up

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for the community. And then just lastly, in terms of

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timing, these things take time. So six and a half

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years to get where we're standing right now. If this

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project is approved, we would go into final engineering drawings.

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Followed by construction and opening year. So assuming no roadblocks

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in our way, um, the earliest that we would foresee

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this building being built, uh, or buildings being built would

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be Q1 of 2030. So we have some time ahead

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of us. And that concludes my presentation. Happy to address

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any questions you may have. One question. Of course. You

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mentioned the screening of the site from the nearby residential,

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both with walls and with landscaping and so forth. Could

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you remind us that there's a differential. Vertically between the

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nearest residents. And this property site? Could you mention that?

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Yeah. So, um, I would say that the nearest community

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that, um, is partially built would be the KB home

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development. It's about a fifth of a mile away. Um,

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there is an elevation grade, but there's also an L.

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So the elevation grade behind of where those residences are.

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But there's also an elevation grade difference on the project

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site from west to east. So, you know, those residences,

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and we've done visual simulations are included with our project

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documents, um, indicate the placement of the building, the ultimate

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grade. And, you know, that is the approximate location that

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I outlined. Which wouldn't be visible from those, from that

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community or any other community. To that matter. Right. Thank

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you. All right. Thank you very much. I was a

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great, um, presentation. Thank you. Well now. We'll open it

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up here for public, uh, just right now. So we'll

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receive comments from members of the public who wish to

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speak on this manner. We do have a packed house

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tonight. So, um, please keep in mind that each person

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may dress the planning commission for maximum of three minutes.

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Madam Secretary. I'm assuming we've received requests to speak tonight.

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Corre. Yes. We've received 14 requests to speak tonight. 14.

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The first will be Juan Cerrado.

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All right. If you could give us your name, um,

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where you live. So my name is throttle. You know,

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we cover a lot of this area, Riversed County. So

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this is where our members live here in this area.

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And you're with, if you could tell you no. Okay.

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Yeah. Like you're in a union. Uh, so good evening

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commissioners. My name is Juan Sorrow with the labor union

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of North America. Um, here tonight to speak and support

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of the Baker Street warehouse project. Uh, this is a

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significant investment in the city of Lake Elsinor. And I

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believe projects like this can bring real opportunities to the

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community. A project of this size means construction jobs for

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local workers, opportunities for apprentices. To get valuable experience and

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build a career. Uh, it also means, uh, the potential

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for long - term jobs once these buildings are up

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in opening. Um, I also think that it's important that,

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uh, Lake Illsonor continues to grow, uh, the people who

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live here have the opportunity to benefit from the growth.

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Uh, we want to see these projects built with a

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strong local workforce. And good paying jobs that help families

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support themselves and keep money right here in the community.

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I appreciate the commission taking the time to review this

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project for those reasons. I sprewfully ask that you support

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the Baker Street Warehouse budget. Thank you so much. Thank

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you, Juan. Thank you. Next. Speaker is polyterani.

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All right. We could get your name and where you

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live. Okay. My name is Polly and I live on

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Ash Street in Alper Hill Ranch. And good evening commissioners.

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Um, I'd like, I haven't done this in a long

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time. Seems like I have to because when I turn

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my back, then all this bullshit starts happening in our

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area. So anyhow, I'll be direct. Any zoning change connected

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to the Baker Street warehouse project is completely unacceptable. The

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project has already been built as of right under existing

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M1, M2, and OS zoning. The developers consultant told us

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city staff. Requested the zone changes to M2 heavy industrial.

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That was city staff that suggested that. None is required.

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So if a zoning change appears now, it's not planning.

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It's manufacturing a justification by city, staff after the fact.

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And that exposes a city to spot zoning claims and

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SQA violations because the EIR only analyzed impacts under curtains

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zoning. But it's really bad. It looks bad. That the

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city staff are the ones that said, Oh, to the

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developer, Dan and the guys. Change zoning to M2. We

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want it to be consistent. And they didn't take us

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into consideration. We are immune people. Let's be clear. Changing

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zones after approval breaks the city's own gurus. If violates

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the good neighbor policy, it contradicts the city's commitment to

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predictable land use planning and is directly harms, RMU neighborhoods

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that relied on longstanding zoning when they bought our homes.

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And any intensification, especially toward heavier industrial means, more trucks,

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more noise, more emissions, more height, and more impact. None

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of that was disclosed. None of that was analyzed. None

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of that. Is justified. And plus. The

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CUP. Probably said it wrong. Anyhow, it's 12, 000 or

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1, 200 houses. And that's not going to happen. Um,

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poulte and syntax have built fewer houses. So we'll have

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to wait until Lansing company decides to build the apartment

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complexes. And who knows when that would be. That's when

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they'll have to pay to take care of the roads.

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And Sharon and I came here in two thumbs. And

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nine, I believe it was, or 10 telling you guys,

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please do not change the certificate of Apoc up. Occupancy.

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To 1200 because we'll never get the roads that we

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were promised. And that's, I can't believe the roads. Anyhow.

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There's zero legitimate planning basis for altering stable zoning for,

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okay, I'm going to just close this with one last

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six. Can I say it? You can finish. Okay. I

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haven't done this in years. Excuse me. My legs are

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shaking. I'm sorry. I'm having such a hard time. It's

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so bad. Can you. Help me. Jane? Oh, I got

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it. Here we go. Thank you. I will end by

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saying converting M1 to M2 at the Baker Street site

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is legally indefensible. Because it increases industrial intensity without general

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plan justifications triggering new SECOA obligations create spot zoning exposure

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violates reliance interest and contradicts the city's own compatibility process

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policies. The city must reject the proposed M1 to M2

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conversion to avoid significant legal and procedural risk. And the

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legal risk in this one, buddies. Thank you. Thank you,

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Polly. The next speaker is Sharon Galena.

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Good evening. Sharon Galena. Ash Street, Albert Hill Ranch. Is

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that a good enough? Yes. Okay. The M1 light manufacturing

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is over often nickels right now. Which I don't, I

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think that's good. Because light manufacturing has restrictions. Go to

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an M2 allows intensified use. Allows noise and truck traffic.

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I don't think Nichols can handle it. Right now, you

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get on nickels coming home off the freeway. It's backed

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up. All the way. How's the truck going to come

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down there? And who wants to hear trucks at night.

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None of us in Aberhil want to hear trucks at

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night. M2, you don't know what you're going to get.

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I hope we don't get boil heights over here. You

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don't know. You could give, oh, what is it? Oh,

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let's see. Better put my glasses on for this one.

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Um, hazmat material. You don't know what's coming. Because M2

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brings it all in. And people that bought houses, the

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brand new houses. They paid up to 800, 000 dollars.

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Who want an M2 behind them. Do you? You don't

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live there. We all live over there. They don't want

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to hear trucks at night. It was bad enough we

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had to hear the mining at night when we first

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moved in. So I guess that's it. That's it. I

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guess I'll be back. Thank you, Sharon. The next speaker

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is Karen Holder.

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I'm Karen Holder. I live on elderwood street in Alperhill

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Ranch. Anyway, I totally agree with my other two friends

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over here. Um, I am against changing it from M1

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to M2. I also, it was one of my first

475
00:35:54,311 --> 00:35:58,430
concerns is to have another oil heights. The traffic. You

476
00:35:58,430 --> 00:36:00,530
guys have not addressed the traffic. Um, that is one

477
00:36:00,530 --> 00:36:04,065
of the biggest components. The noise pollution. We already have

478
00:36:04,486 --> 00:36:09,340
air pollution. Um, from the freeways, the mines, the quarry

479
00:36:09,380 --> 00:36:13,660
over here. And now we're going to add more intense.

480
00:36:13,660 --> 00:36:15,820
And secondly, the noise. The noise, we have a quiet

481
00:36:15,841 --> 00:36:18,220
community. I listened to birds in the morning. I listened

482
00:36:18,220 --> 00:36:20,161
to birds at night. Um, I don't want to hear

483
00:36:20,902 --> 00:36:24,776
beep. Beep throughout the, throughout the evening. So anyway, I

484
00:36:24,776 --> 00:36:26,536
just want to put in. Please do not change the

485
00:36:26,717 --> 00:36:31,344
zoning. That is my biggest concern. And then to address

486
00:36:32,405 --> 00:36:41,080
the traffic. Thank you. Thank you, Karen. The next speaker

487
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:42,040
is Linda Sloan.

488
00:36:53,365 --> 00:36:55,264
Hi, my name is Linda Slocum and I live on

489
00:36:55,525 --> 00:36:57,744
Alderwood place. Can you just step forward a little bit

490
00:36:57,744 --> 00:36:59,824
so we can hear you, let there. Okay. I'm sorry.

491
00:36:59,864 --> 00:37:02,544
Okay. My name is my name is Linda Slocum and

492
00:37:02,584 --> 00:37:05,424
I live on Alderwood plays. And when we originally bought

493
00:37:05,464 --> 00:37:08,144
here in 2012, we were made a lot of promises

494
00:37:08,485 --> 00:37:11,184
and none of them have come true. And now the

495
00:37:11,224 --> 00:37:14,624
plan that you guys, that's being proposed is to me

496
00:37:14,725 --> 00:37:19,904
absolutely outrageous and ridiculous. I do not want this zoning

497
00:37:19,944 --> 00:37:22,224
to change for one. This is supposed to be a

498
00:37:22,485 --> 00:37:28,706
residential community. So please, please do not approve this. And

499
00:37:28,706 --> 00:37:31,666
the traffic situation is horrible. And we were promised back

500
00:37:31,767 --> 00:37:33,986
in 12 that that was also going to be fixed

501
00:37:34,167 --> 00:37:36,546
at that nickels was supposed to be expanded. Lake was

502
00:37:36,586 --> 00:37:38,706
supposed to be expanded. And none of those plans have

503
00:37:38,746 --> 00:37:41,746
come through. So why would we expect anything different on

504
00:37:41,746 --> 00:37:51,055
this. Thank you. Thank you, Linda. The next speaker is

505
00:37:51,095 --> 00:37:51,695
Jennifer Douglas.

506
00:38:03,473 --> 00:38:06,652
My name's Jenifer Douglas. I live on Alderwood in Albert

507
00:38:06,673 --> 00:38:10,892
Hill community. Again, as the few people that have come

508
00:38:10,932 --> 00:38:14,492
before me, we were promised many different things when we

509
00:38:14,492 --> 00:38:16,972
bought the homes and even the new homeowners going in

510
00:38:17,012 --> 00:38:20,252
now had no idea that these warehouses were even going

511
00:38:20,292 --> 00:38:23,452
to be developed. So the fact that again, you guys

512
00:38:23,553 --> 00:38:26,412
are changing the zoning should not be happening. The traffic

513
00:38:26,433 --> 00:38:28,932
has yet to be addressed on both of them. We

514
00:38:29,073 --> 00:38:32,492
saw the traffic issues at the fullest extent when we

515
00:38:32,492 --> 00:38:34,972
had the poppy bloom. People couldn't get in and out

516
00:38:34,972 --> 00:38:36,732
of the city. We were actually not even able to

517
00:38:36,993 --> 00:38:39,932
alleave our homes during that time because you could not

518
00:38:39,972 --> 00:38:42,252
go down lake or nickels, which was our really the

519
00:38:42,252 --> 00:38:46,491
only entrances. So again, you need, please do not approve

520
00:38:46,491 --> 00:38:54,174
this. Thank you. Thank you, Jenipyr. The next speaker is

521
00:38:54,755 --> 00:39:04,078
Patricia Ponzo. Can you hear me? Yeah.

522
00:39:05,611 --> 00:39:08,630
My name is Patricia Ponzo. I live on ash in

523
00:39:08,670 --> 00:39:12,362
Alberhill Ranch. I'm here tonight because I'm concerned about the

524
00:39:12,623 --> 00:39:16,122
proposed make a warehouses on Nichols Road. And I'm asking

525
00:39:16,122 --> 00:39:19,402
you to please think about what this project will mean

526
00:39:19,402 --> 00:39:25,162
for the people who live here. Why? Because I live

527
00:39:25,202 --> 00:39:27,962
here. I drive Nichols Road. And if you've ever tried

528
00:39:27,983 --> 00:39:30,762
to get through Nichols around four o'clock in the afternoon,

529
00:39:30,783 --> 00:39:34,640
you know exactly what I'm talking about. You don't. You're

530
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,120
the one that talked about our traffic. No, you don't

531
00:39:37,141 --> 00:39:44,314
have any idea what it's like. The traffic can already

532
00:39:44,314 --> 00:39:47,034
be backed up across the freeway and into the new

533
00:39:47,074 --> 00:39:50,394
neighborhood. And that's going in one direction. The other direction

534
00:39:50,495 --> 00:39:54,114
is backed up way past the electrical power there by

535
00:39:54,114 --> 00:39:57,914
Baker Street. In fact, I've learned to change the time.

536
00:39:57,914 --> 00:40:01,587
I leave my house just to avoid that. And remember

537
00:40:01,928 --> 00:40:05,867
that's just the traffic that we have now. Add on

538
00:40:06,568 --> 00:40:11,842
about 1, 900 additional vehicle trips every day. With all

539
00:40:11,882 --> 00:40:14,082
those trucks, it's going to be a mess. So I

540
00:40:14,183 --> 00:40:17,442
have a simple question. Where are the tricks going to

541
00:40:17,463 --> 00:40:20,980
go. And from what I understand, there's no plan to

542
00:40:21,401 --> 00:40:26,085
widen the road. Is that still true? You're not saying

543
00:40:26,125 --> 00:40:30,606
anything. To wind the road to accommodate all this additional

544
00:40:30,627 --> 00:40:33,300
traffic. So what are you going to do? What are

545
00:40:33,300 --> 00:40:36,000
you going to do about the congestion? What are you

546
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:38,420
going to do about the diesel exhaust? What are you

547
00:40:38,420 --> 00:40:40,857
going to do about the noise. What are we going

548
00:40:40,857 --> 00:40:43,017
to do about the safety of the people that live

549
00:40:43,118 --> 00:40:48,996
in our neighborhoods. Because once these warehouses are built. We

550
00:40:49,097 --> 00:40:52,756
can't just unbuild them when we discovered that the traffic

551
00:40:52,777 --> 00:40:59,597
was unbearable. Finally. I want to remind you that we

552
00:40:59,637 --> 00:41:05,107
aren't just numbers on a traffic study. Where your residents.

553
00:41:05,107 --> 00:41:09,706
We live here. We're your neighbors. And yes, we're also

554
00:41:09,746 --> 00:41:14,586
your voters. So please don't just listen to our concerns,

555
00:41:14,586 --> 00:41:17,465
nod your heads and send us home. Please do something

556
00:41:17,486 --> 00:41:25,905
about it. Thank you. Thank you, Patricia. The next speaker

557
00:41:25,945 --> 00:41:34,196
is Orcadia Wilcox. Good afternoon. Orchidea Wilcox. I'm a local

558
00:41:34,297 --> 00:41:40,276
resident. Um, this seems to be like a contradiction of

559
00:41:40,697 --> 00:41:43,396
what the city of Lake Aussinor is supposed to be.

560
00:41:43,396 --> 00:41:46,996
It's supposed to be an extreme sports city, non -

561
00:41:46,996 --> 00:41:50,676
industrial city. So this is going to, again, the goals

562
00:41:50,697 --> 00:41:54,116
of the city. Like they were mentioning, you know, the

563
00:41:54,116 --> 00:41:56,476
pictures are very nice with three or four cars. I

564
00:41:56,476 --> 00:41:57,716
don't see all the tracks that are going to be

565
00:41:57,737 --> 00:42:01,647
coming and going. I don't see the pollution. That's going

566
00:42:01,647 --> 00:42:04,447
to be creating. I don't see all the noise that's

567
00:42:04,447 --> 00:42:06,927
going to be creating. That in a picture looks very

568
00:42:07,108 --> 00:42:10,803
pretty, but that's not a reality. Let's be clear. The

569
00:42:10,984 --> 00:42:16,456
grid. The water usage, the congestion on everything that is

570
00:42:16,456 --> 00:42:19,976
going to be happening is not showing on those pictures.

571
00:42:19,976 --> 00:42:24,821
The fire haser. You know, a big workhouse like that

572
00:42:24,922 --> 00:42:28,581
can catch on fire 300 feet from a neighborhood. That's

573
00:42:28,581 --> 00:42:32,261
not safe. Um, right now we don't know for sure

574
00:42:32,301 --> 00:42:34,261
what it's going to be there. And you cannot promise

575
00:42:34,842 --> 00:42:36,341
what is going to be there. It could be a

576
00:42:36,442 --> 00:42:39,541
data center pretty soon using all the water from lake

577
00:42:39,562 --> 00:42:44,054
else, you know. 9 million, the little bit of money

578
00:42:44,395 --> 00:42:48,374
that this project can bring. It would not pay for

579
00:42:48,555 --> 00:42:53,494
the usage of the water, the electricity, the air pollution,

580
00:42:53,494 --> 00:42:56,614
the noise pollution, the light pollution of the residence of

581
00:42:56,955 --> 00:43:01,814
lake calciner. We need to support the residents. You know,

582
00:43:01,915 --> 00:43:04,774
it's very nice for some people that live somewhere else.

583
00:43:04,774 --> 00:43:07,374
They want to have a job. But, you know, the

584
00:43:07,374 --> 00:43:09,494
people that count and the people that you represent are

585
00:43:09,595 --> 00:43:11,814
the people that live here. Not that people are coming

586
00:43:11,835 --> 00:43:19,197
to work. Um, I am against the change from M1

587
00:43:19,197 --> 00:43:24,157
to M2 because the expansion that you're going to create

588
00:43:24,818 --> 00:43:27,677
cannot be controlled after you do that. It will be

589
00:43:28,338 --> 00:43:33,630
irreversible. And the damage will be reversible. The little effort

590
00:43:33,630 --> 00:43:35,790
that they will put for a little bit of contribution

591
00:43:36,131 --> 00:43:39,390
for the ecosystem does not pay for all the acres

592
00:43:39,390 --> 00:43:45,007
that they're going to be creating against it. A little

593
00:43:45,047 --> 00:43:47,407
bit of money for the school. Please do not sell

594
00:43:47,588 --> 00:43:51,307
the city of Lake Helciner for just a little bit

595
00:43:51,307 --> 00:43:59,058
of change. This will bring 1900 new daily vehicle trips,

596
00:43:59,058 --> 00:44:02,418
1500 to 1700 daily trips on the I - 15.

597
00:44:02,418 --> 00:44:04,258
And even though I don't live off nickel, I have

598
00:44:04,258 --> 00:44:07,058
to travel on the 15. I don't hear anything about

599
00:44:07,559 --> 00:44:11,058
enlarging. Uh, every day you have to pay coming from

600
00:44:11,079 --> 00:44:14,498
Riverside 14 dollars and you still for 15 miles you

601
00:44:14,498 --> 00:44:18,018
take an hour. Uh, there's no change for that. We

602
00:44:18,018 --> 00:44:20,978
live here, uh, we don't want to have all this

603
00:44:21,018 --> 00:44:25,218
congestion. It's not safe. It's not good. You cannot promise

604
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:27,538
that this is going to be good for the city

605
00:44:27,578 --> 00:44:32,018
of Lake Kelsinger. Please protect the neighbors, protect the people

606
00:44:32,119 --> 00:44:39,748
that put you on your opposition. Thank you. The next

607
00:44:39,748 --> 00:44:44,849
speaker is Brianna Wilcox. Evening commission, my name is Brianna

608
00:44:44,870 --> 00:44:47,809
Wilcox. I'm a local resident. I'm also a proud union

609
00:44:47,809 --> 00:44:50,369
baby. I'm proud union member myself when I worked as

610
00:44:50,369 --> 00:44:52,689
a teacher. The thing is when you work as a

611
00:44:52,689 --> 00:44:55,569
teacher, you see how the living conditions of your students

612
00:44:55,750 --> 00:45:00,101
affects them. My kids are sick. Over a riverside because

613
00:45:00,141 --> 00:45:03,381
of all the warehouses that they've just been throwing in.

614
00:45:03,421 --> 00:45:07,359
My family's are sick. The congestion is unbelievable. They can't

615
00:45:07,540 --> 00:45:11,279
sleep because of the sound and smog and noise pollution,

616
00:45:11,279 --> 00:45:15,439
noxious chemicals. We're already getting chronic health conditions for kids

617
00:45:15,460 --> 00:45:18,894
who aren't even ten yet. Let alone the rest of

618
00:45:18,894 --> 00:45:23,455
their family. Like the people who live here. I don't

619
00:45:23,495 --> 00:45:25,455
know if you know what it feels like to be

620
00:45:25,476 --> 00:45:28,255
trapped in your neighborhood because of the freeway is clogged.

621
00:45:28,255 --> 00:45:31,200
When the wildfire coming. I don't know how close you

622
00:45:31,240 --> 00:45:33,600
live here. I'm sure that can be looked up, though.

623
00:45:34,570 --> 00:45:37,429
If you bring in what is already congested and what

624
00:45:37,450 --> 00:45:40,250
is already a safety hazard. You're just saying you want

625
00:45:40,250 --> 00:45:43,196
us to die in a fire. You're just saying you

626
00:45:43,297 --> 00:45:46,076
want, are you tell you to go up because water's

627
00:45:46,076 --> 00:45:49,995
being used? Electricity is being used. With rigorous safety standards,

628
00:45:49,995 --> 00:45:52,155
from so - called Edison, the same sulka, Aldison, that

629
00:45:52,155 --> 00:45:54,635
caused the eaten fire, right? And never got accountability for

630
00:45:54,635 --> 00:45:58,473
it. Those standards. That's what you're planning for this community.

631
00:45:59,162 --> 00:46:01,521
That's what you're planning for these families. They don't get

632
00:46:01,521 --> 00:46:04,316
to sleep. They don't get to breathe. They don't have

633
00:46:04,337 --> 00:46:09,167
a safe way out. For what. Some temporary construction jobs.

634
00:46:09,828 --> 00:46:12,527
And then terrible warehouse jobs. We don't even know who

635
00:46:12,567 --> 00:46:15,145
the buyer is for this warehouse. Who is it? Who

636
00:46:15,326 --> 00:46:17,625
is paying so much money that they want to profit

637
00:46:17,665 --> 00:46:21,841
off of this community. They're not telling us probably a

638
00:46:21,841 --> 00:46:24,661
good reason why. I was here for the city council

639
00:46:24,661 --> 00:46:28,181
meeting. Well, past series of city council meetings because we

640
00:46:28,181 --> 00:46:30,421
were trying to fight an AI data center that didn't

641
00:46:30,461 --> 00:46:32,741
say was a data center. It just wanted to be

642
00:46:32,762 --> 00:46:36,596
rezoned for industrial use. So who's buying here? Is it

643
00:46:36,596 --> 00:46:39,232
a data center? Is it Amazon. Is it the same

644
00:46:39,413 --> 00:46:42,112
warehouse conglomerates that force their workers to pee in a

645
00:46:42,112 --> 00:46:43,872
bottles because they don't want them to take 15 minute

646
00:46:43,912 --> 00:46:49,292
bathroom breaks. The ones that pay barely minimum wage. No

647
00:46:49,332 --> 00:46:51,866
vacation time. No real health care for when they get

648
00:46:52,207 --> 00:46:57,059
injured at way above industry standards and averages. You want

649
00:46:57,059 --> 00:46:59,539
to sell us out for crappy jobs that hurt us

650
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:01,939
for air that poisons us. You want to ruin these

651
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:05,279
families'lives. I appreciate this has been many years in the

652
00:47:05,279 --> 00:47:07,859
making. But then I wonder, why has this been so

653
00:47:07,859 --> 00:47:11,212
many years in the making without our input. We are

654
00:47:11,252 --> 00:47:12,812
the ones who are going to bear the true cost

655
00:47:12,812 --> 00:47:15,938
of this. And I'm wondering, why would city stuff wish

656
00:47:15,978 --> 00:47:19,281
this through open you to litigation. Trying to justify things

657
00:47:19,321 --> 00:47:22,321
after the fact? Where's that money going? Because we're not

658
00:47:22,361 --> 00:47:25,494
seeing it. A couple of acres for conservation is not

659
00:47:25,494 --> 00:47:32,075
going to mitigate every risk that this represents. And I'm

660
00:47:32,075 --> 00:47:36,078
sorry that I'm upset. But it's because I care. I

661
00:47:36,078 --> 00:47:38,444
don't want any more kids sick. I don't want any

662
00:47:38,545 --> 00:47:42,258
families trapped in a wildfire. You live here, you belong

663
00:47:42,298 --> 00:47:45,229
here too. Please vote like it. Thank you.

664
00:47:52,409 --> 00:47:53,828
The next speaker is Andrew Molina.

665
00:48:05,667 --> 00:48:08,046
The next speaker after Andrew Molina will be.

666
00:48:21,771 --> 00:48:24,677
You guys hear me? Alright, good evening everybody. My name

667
00:48:24,677 --> 00:48:27,157
is Andrew Melling and I'm a representative with the Western

668
00:48:27,178 --> 00:48:30,917
States Regional Council of Carpenters here in Riverside County, representing

669
00:48:30,957 --> 00:48:35,457
over 6, 100 members, countywide. And several of them live

670
00:48:35,798 --> 00:48:39,036
in and around this area. We're here to speak in

671
00:48:39,036 --> 00:48:41,516
favor of the project, not only because of the job

672
00:48:41,556 --> 00:48:44,716
opportunities it's going to bring, but also because the developer

673
00:48:44,977 --> 00:48:48,876
has committed to using responsible local contractors that will pay

674
00:48:48,916 --> 00:48:52,156
an area standard wage, a livable wage, and higher apprentices

675
00:48:52,196 --> 00:48:57,290
from a state accredited apprenticeship program. Thank you. All right,

676
00:48:57,290 --> 00:49:03,237
thank you Andrew. The next speaker is Louis Briges.

677
00:49:07,186 --> 00:49:16,839
The next speaker is Saugaytan. The next speaker is Ruth

678
00:49:17,420 --> 00:49:17,799
Bryson.

679
00:49:28,820 --> 00:49:33,919
Good evening. My name is Ruth Brissonden from Stand Up

680
00:49:33,940 --> 00:49:36,639
for Mother Earth. I also live in Tumisco Valley just

681
00:49:36,679 --> 00:49:40,799
up the road from this proposed project. As I'm sure

682
00:49:41,140 --> 00:49:44,719
you're aware, this project cite is home to several populations

683
00:49:44,820 --> 00:49:49,199
of the rare and endangered San Diego Ambrosia, which will

684
00:49:49,300 --> 00:49:55,279
be negatively impacted by this project. In 2002, San Diego

685
00:49:55,460 --> 00:49:58,959
Ambrosia was listed as an endangered species under the U.

686
00:49:58,959 --> 00:50:03,119
S. Endangered Species Act. In 2010, the U. S. Fish

687
00:50:03,119 --> 00:50:06,479
and Wildlife Service at a critical habitat for the San

688
00:50:06,479 --> 00:50:11,119
Diego Ambrosia to the listing. This designation of critical habitat

689
00:50:11,220 --> 00:50:15,759
created subunit 1B consisting of about 70 acres in the

690
00:50:15,860 --> 00:50:20,079
area around Nichols Road where this project has located. The

691
00:50:20,260 --> 00:50:24,959
designation of critical habitat stated that this subunit is essential

692
00:50:24,959 --> 00:50:30,079
to the conservation and genetic diversity of this species. San

693
00:50:30,079 --> 00:50:33,119
Diego and Brosia is found only in a few places

694
00:50:33,220 --> 00:50:36,559
in the world. It's found in limited numbers only here

695
00:50:36,660 --> 00:50:40,779
in Riverside County, San Diego County and Baja, California. The

696
00:50:40,900 --> 00:50:44,639
parcel upon which the proposed project sits contains at least

697
00:50:44,900 --> 00:50:49,439
eight different populations of this endangered plant. All of which

698
00:50:50,100 --> 00:50:53,279
are slated to be removed and then transplanted in the

699
00:50:53,380 --> 00:50:59,119
conserved area. The area is already under conservation. So how

700
00:50:59,300 --> 00:51:04,319
is this new mitigation? Anyway, none of the endangered ambrosia

701
00:51:04,500 --> 00:51:08,139
at this site will remain in its natural location. All

702
00:51:08,139 --> 00:51:11,359
will be dug up and all will be removed. Hopefully

703
00:51:11,620 --> 00:51:16,319
some will still survive. The FEIR seems to twist the

704
00:51:16,340 --> 00:51:20,239
language at the MSHCP to justify their removal of all

705
00:51:20,260 --> 00:51:24,079
of the ambrosia under rationale that since 90 percent of

706
00:51:24,119 --> 00:51:28,559
the population cannot be avoided, then none should be avoided.

707
00:51:28,559 --> 00:51:31,525
Does that make sense to you. At least some of

708
00:51:31,706 --> 00:51:36,325
the ambrosia should remain in situ to maximize the chances

709
00:51:36,426 --> 00:51:43,205
of its survival. Translocation should complement, not replace full protection

710
00:51:43,306 --> 00:51:49,125
measures for the ambrosia. It's possible that a downscaled project,

711
00:51:49,125 --> 00:51:52,965
such as that proposed under alternative number three, the reduced

712
00:51:52,986 --> 00:51:58,085
project alternative described in the draft EIR could avoid at

713
00:51:58,085 --> 00:52:01,925
least some of the ambrosia. Some would be avoided, some

714
00:52:01,925 --> 00:52:05,285
would be translocated, offering the best chance for survival for

715
00:52:05,306 --> 00:52:11,942
this rare and dangered native plant. This would also satisfy

716
00:52:11,982 --> 00:52:16,482
the primary project objectives due to the similarity in the

717
00:52:16,482 --> 00:52:22,612
development type design use and location. I urge you to

718
00:52:23,353 --> 00:52:29,012
either reject this project in whole or adopt alternative three

719
00:52:29,033 --> 00:52:32,468
instead of the project as proposed. Thank you. Thank you.

720
00:52:32,675 --> 00:52:38,637
Red. The next speaker is Ace Vallejos.

721
00:52:47,524 --> 00:52:50,383
Good evening. I'm Ashed Vallejo, and I wanted to go

722
00:52:50,383 --> 00:52:54,143
ahead and speak in opposition to what is currently planned.

723
00:52:54,143 --> 00:52:57,790
M1. M2 is okay. I don't think any of us

724
00:52:57,830 --> 00:53:01,630
are against any development in the area. I think, also

725
00:53:01,630 --> 00:53:04,570
if you take a look at the RMU zoning, all

726
00:53:04,611 --> 00:53:08,190
that zoning allows jobs. Those jobs are very well paying

727
00:53:08,190 --> 00:53:10,910
jobs. I know people that work in those light manufacturing

728
00:53:10,931 --> 00:53:14,077
in our area and they make a substantial salary. So

729
00:53:14,498 --> 00:53:17,848
I don't see where that's an issue. Uh, getting out

730
00:53:18,029 --> 00:53:22,186
on Nichols Road. And over the Lake Street or over

731
00:53:22,186 --> 00:53:26,306
to the Nicholson ramp. It's terrible. There's just no, it

732
00:53:26,306 --> 00:53:30,506
just doesn't even make any sense. In fact, cloud chair

733
00:53:30,687 --> 00:53:33,706
and RCTC have no plans right now to do anything

734
00:53:33,887 --> 00:53:36,026
with that on - ramp or widening or anything like

735
00:53:36,066 --> 00:53:39,226
that. I believe they're working on central now. And there's

736
00:53:39,247 --> 00:53:44,870
no scope or work being moved forward on nickels. Nichols

737
00:53:44,910 --> 00:53:48,470
eventually, I understand El Toro will come in and merge

738
00:53:48,491 --> 00:53:51,590
in with the rest of it there. So that's a

739
00:53:51,691 --> 00:53:54,790
long ways off before that ever gets done. The bottom

740
00:53:54,811 --> 00:53:58,230
line is as compatible development. Something that's compatible with the

741
00:53:58,331 --> 00:54:01,430
houses compatible with the neighborhood. And I think that that

742
00:54:01,470 --> 00:54:04,150
would be light manufacturing would be fine. It'd be nice

743
00:54:04,150 --> 00:54:07,030
to have a hospital. It'll be nice to have a

744
00:54:07,070 --> 00:54:10,727
life city college or something like that. But what you're

745
00:54:10,727 --> 00:54:13,527
proposing now is incompatible. It doesn't make any sense. Thank

746
00:54:13,527 --> 00:54:21,403
you. Thank you Ace. The next speaker is Michael Moran.

747
00:54:26,232 --> 00:54:28,111
I'm fairly new to the area. I'm one of the

748
00:54:28,111 --> 00:54:30,371
people that moved in recently that had no idea about

749
00:54:30,792 --> 00:54:33,331
the warehouses, you know, real estate agents. They don't tell

750
00:54:33,331 --> 00:54:37,918
you those things. So anyway, the reason I came up

751
00:54:38,019 --> 00:54:40,718
is I had a question. You had a slide of

752
00:54:41,139 --> 00:54:44,684
slide up there about transportation. You go to slide during

753
00:54:44,705 --> 00:54:48,566
your presentation about transportation. Could you answer? I had a

754
00:54:48,566 --> 00:54:48,886
question about that.

755
00:55:01,742 --> 00:55:03,881
So this makes your project look really good. And if

756
00:55:03,881 --> 00:55:05,721
I wanted to make my project look good, I'd do

757
00:55:05,721 --> 00:55:11,803
a slide just like that. I'm going to have to

758
00:55:11,843 --> 00:55:17,283
sit down. Um, yeah, this is a great slide. If

759
00:55:17,504 --> 00:55:19,883
I wanted to make my project look good, I do

760
00:55:19,904 --> 00:55:22,603
one just like this. My question, I couldn't read the

761
00:55:22,643 --> 00:55:26,603
axes. So what's the baseline? I see that that increase

762
00:55:26,864 --> 00:55:32,287
is very light. But what is baseline and in a

763
00:55:32,287 --> 00:55:36,047
percentage basis? How much does that increase the percentage of

764
00:55:36,148 --> 00:55:39,130
traffic? Do we have an idea about that. I can't

765
00:55:39,130 --> 00:55:49,111
answer. That. Anybody. And whatever that percentage increase is have

766
00:55:49,132 --> 00:55:53,311
plans been made, as many people have brought up, to

767
00:55:53,311 --> 00:55:57,831
address the logistics around the area in order to make.

768
00:55:58,592 --> 00:56:03,611
The traffic be reasonable. And I didn't hear anything in

769
00:56:03,651 --> 00:56:06,491
the presentation along those lines in terms of anything that

770
00:56:06,491 --> 00:56:09,718
was going to be done to address that. Um, I

771
00:56:09,718 --> 00:56:13,318
do think, I'm all for more jobs. I think the

772
00:56:13,358 --> 00:56:17,158
jobs are great. Um, but the good jobs are temporary.

773
00:56:17,198 --> 00:56:20,678
This is a warehouse. And those warehouse jobs I know

774
00:56:20,678 --> 00:56:26,118
from experience, um, are not the greatest jobs. And the

775
00:56:26,118 --> 00:56:28,598
safety issues that have been brought up are very real.

776
00:56:29,179 --> 00:56:32,098
Um, so I just wanted to make those points. Um,

777
00:56:32,299 --> 00:56:37,158
and, uh, I'm in agreement with the project not going

778
00:56:37,179 --> 00:56:39,638
forward as it is until some of these issues are

779
00:56:39,678 --> 00:56:48,556
addressed. Thank you. Thank you. The next speaker is Andre

780
00:56:48,657 --> 00:56:58,303
Masuzov. Hi everyone. Oh, that's nice. Um, so

781
00:56:59,604 --> 00:57:03,423
I stand against the licensing change from M1 and M2.

782
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:06,579
To M2. And also I wanted to speak as a

783
00:57:06,619 --> 00:57:10,019
person who lives in the new KB home community that

784
00:57:10,019 --> 00:57:14,259
was recently built and still in the process of building.

785
00:57:14,259 --> 00:57:17,059
Our home, myself and my families and also a home

786
00:57:17,099 --> 00:57:20,099
of my neighbors who also have families and the young

787
00:57:20,099 --> 00:57:27,619
children will directly oversee the proposed construction proposed baker street

788
00:57:27,619 --> 00:57:31,219
project. I think it's going to one negatively impact the

789
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:34,259
air quality, the water quality, the overall look of the

790
00:57:34,299 --> 00:57:38,979
area. There is a, I would say big outbreak hill

791
00:57:39,019 --> 00:57:42,979
range community and also including this AB home project or

792
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:46,019
large community that has kids. A lot of children actually.

793
00:57:49,202 --> 00:57:51,821
It has a school up the hill that will also.

794
00:57:54,397 --> 00:57:56,776
Certain issues in terms of air quality that this project

795
00:57:56,877 --> 00:58:01,673
will bring. Um, this is a nice presentation, but I

796
00:58:01,713 --> 00:58:04,793
do think that for debt area specifically, there are many

797
00:58:04,974 --> 00:58:07,353
things that can be done from the city side that

798
00:58:07,393 --> 00:58:11,033
can actually improve people's lives there. And instead of building

799
00:58:11,374 --> 00:58:14,873
this project, um, I stand not only against the license

800
00:58:14,894 --> 00:58:17,793
change, but also against the project in general. I think

801
00:58:17,793 --> 00:58:20,793
again, there is much better use of that length in

802
00:58:20,793 --> 00:58:24,988
that area. Um, yeah, that's all. Thank you very much.

803
00:58:31,394 --> 00:58:32,813
Next speaker is Cassandra Madison.

804
00:58:46,136 --> 00:58:49,803
Good evening, commissioners. My name is Cassandra Madison. And I

805
00:58:49,803 --> 00:58:53,815
am here to Lake Elsinor resident. Concerned about the Baker

806
00:58:53,836 --> 00:58:59,020
Street warehouse project. I am not opposed to economic development.

807
00:59:00,254 --> 00:59:03,593
But development of this size must provide benefits that are

808
00:59:03,614 --> 00:59:08,159
clear, measurable and enforceable. We renaced to approve more than

809
00:59:08,740 --> 00:59:13,599
one million square feet of industrial development potentially operating 24

810
00:59:13,620 --> 00:59:17,759
hours a day, seven days a week with substantial daily

811
00:59:17,860 --> 00:59:22,854
truck traffic. At the same time, the environmental review acknowledges

812
00:59:23,275 --> 00:59:28,614
significant and unavoidable air quality and greenhouse gas impacts. So

813
00:59:28,654 --> 00:59:32,075
my first question is simple. What guaranteed benefit to the

814
00:59:32,115 --> 00:59:35,835
people of Lake Elsinor is substantially enough to justify accepting

815
00:59:36,576 --> 00:59:40,895
environmental impacts that cannot fully be mitigated. I also want

816
00:59:41,236 --> 00:59:45,885
clarity on the economic benefit. How many permanent jobs will

817
00:59:45,885 --> 00:59:49,165
actually be created at this facility? How many are expected

818
00:59:49,205 --> 00:59:54,045
to go to Lake Elsinor residents? What wages are anticipated?

819
00:59:54,045 --> 00:59:57,085
And most importantly, what direct tax revenue will this project

820
00:59:57,266 --> 01:00:01,249
generate for our city. Regional economic projects are not the

821
01:00:01,249 --> 01:00:04,529
same has guaranteed local benefits. I also want to know

822
01:00:04,569 --> 01:00:09,169
who pays for the infrastructure this project requires. Road improvements

823
01:00:09,750 --> 01:00:15,009
sewer facilities, utilities, traffic, mitigation and other infrastructure connected to

824
01:00:15,049 --> 01:00:19,249
this development should be paid for by the developer. Lake

825
01:00:19,249 --> 01:00:23,409
Elsinor taxpayers and rapes should not be asked to subsidize

826
01:00:23,670 --> 01:00:27,838
the long - term costs of private development. And finally,

827
01:00:28,019 --> 01:00:31,118
we do not yet know who the tenant will be.

828
01:00:31,118 --> 01:00:33,678
If this project can operate 24 hours a day and

829
01:00:33,678 --> 01:00:37,598
accommodate a range of industrial uses, then the strongest protections

830
01:00:37,598 --> 01:00:41,678
need to be established now before approval, not negotiated later

831
01:00:42,339 --> 01:00:48,240
after a tenant arise. That includes enforceable truck routes, idling

832
01:00:48,280 --> 01:00:54,160
restrictions, nor is protections, environmental monitoring, infrastructure responsibilities, and consequences

833
01:00:54,341 --> 01:00:58,240
for noncompliance. I ask you to evaluate this project not

834
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:00,640
only on what is being promised tonight, but on what

835
01:01:00,661 --> 01:01:03,880
the city will actually be able to enforce 5, 10

836
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:07,840
or 20 years from now. Responsible development should pay its

837
01:01:07,861 --> 01:01:13,200
own way, protecting the surrounding community and provide benefit, proportionate

838
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:16,160
to the burden it creates. Please make sure these commitments

839
01:01:16,181 --> 01:01:21,120
are enforceable and not simply projected. Thank you. Thank you,

840
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:27,395
Cassandra. Next speaker is Elliot Ruland.

841
01:01:38,549 --> 01:01:41,808
Hi everyone, my name's Elliot. I'm a new resident here.

842
01:01:41,808 --> 01:01:45,008
I live in the KB community. Um, like the gentleman

843
01:01:45,749 --> 01:01:48,048
that was up here for moments ago. Uh, I moved

844
01:01:48,069 --> 01:01:50,848
in last year and had no idea that we'd be

845
01:01:50,848 --> 01:01:54,768
getting a warehouse built right next to us. Um, you

846
01:01:54,768 --> 01:01:56,048
know, one of the things that I really liked about

847
01:01:56,389 --> 01:01:59,968
Lake Elsinor is it's a beautiful area. I can walk

848
01:02:00,069 --> 01:02:02,448
outside my front door and see the mountains and the

849
01:02:02,488 --> 01:02:04,848
greenery. And it's really beautiful. I see it as a

850
01:02:04,848 --> 01:02:07,088
place that can grow and develop to a place where

851
01:02:07,128 --> 01:02:08,848
people want to come and live here and to come

852
01:02:08,888 --> 01:02:12,928
visit. Um, I don't think warehouse, uh, makes it look

853
01:02:12,949 --> 01:02:15,568
any more beautiful. Um, I think it makes it look

854
01:02:15,568 --> 01:02:19,008
quite bad actually. Right. Um, climate is important to me

855
01:02:19,048 --> 01:02:22,768
as well. And when we are going to be inviting,

856
01:02:22,768 --> 01:02:25,248
um, you know, semi trucks to be driving on our

857
01:02:25,509 --> 01:02:29,168
already two small streets, right? Polluting the air. There's kids

858
01:02:29,168 --> 01:02:32,048
in my neighborhood. There's a, I think an elementary school

859
01:02:32,309 --> 01:02:35,008
pretty nearby as well. Um, I just don't think that

860
01:02:35,029 --> 01:02:37,488
that's the right choice. We can, we can develop the

861
01:02:37,528 --> 01:02:39,728
land and bring things in that will be beneficial for

862
01:02:39,749 --> 01:02:42,608
the community. Uh, I don't think this is broadly beneficial

863
01:02:42,869 --> 01:02:45,568
for the community. Um, and then as far as the

864
01:02:45,829 --> 01:02:49,728
roads, I was commuting up the 15 for quite a

865
01:02:49,728 --> 01:02:53,248
while. Um, after I moved here. And sometimes just to

866
01:02:53,248 --> 01:02:55,088
get on the freeway at Lake Street would take me

867
01:02:55,109 --> 01:02:59,408
like 25 minutes coming from, uh, that KB community nickel

868
01:02:59,509 --> 01:03:02,608
streets is a disaster. It doesn't even have street lights.

869
01:03:02,608 --> 01:03:04,128
It curves. You can't even, you can barely see it

870
01:03:04,469 --> 01:03:07,888
night. You know, I'd like to see, um, our tax

871
01:03:07,888 --> 01:03:10,608
dollars going towards improving the city for the residents that

872
01:03:10,648 --> 01:03:14,048
are here. Um, not to, uh, you know, help out

873
01:03:14,229 --> 01:03:16,848
a big business or a corporation come in and take

874
01:03:16,949 --> 01:03:19,168
our land and put something there that no one really

875
01:03:19,189 --> 01:03:22,608
wants. So I hope that you, um, you listened to

876
01:03:22,648 --> 01:03:25,648
everyone and make a choice that benefits the community and

877
01:03:25,749 --> 01:03:29,408
not, uh, whatever company happens to come in. Who knows.

878
01:03:29,408 --> 01:03:31,648
Maybe we'll find out. Uh, when it actually opens. Thank

879
01:03:31,648 --> 01:03:37,815
you. Thank you, Aliyek. The next speaker is Harley Quinn

880
01:03:37,916 --> 01:03:47,188
Flint. Hello.

881
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:52,259
Everyone. My name is Harley and I'm a resident of

882
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:55,859
Lake Elsinor as well as a small business owner here.

883
01:03:55,859 --> 01:03:59,299
This is my first time speaking publicly. So please bear

884
01:03:59,339 --> 01:04:04,302
with me. I also did not necessarily plan to speak

885
01:04:04,403 --> 01:04:06,462
tonight. I just got off of a very long day

886
01:04:06,502 --> 01:04:11,332
of work. So, um. Please enjoy my bullet points. Um,

887
01:04:11,353 --> 01:04:14,612
so I am, again, I'm here today as a resident

888
01:04:14,713 --> 01:04:17,252
and a small business owner. I run a mobile service

889
01:04:17,513 --> 01:04:21,172
operating from Temecula through Corona, but most of my clients

890
01:04:21,212 --> 01:04:24,372
are right here in Lake Alsinore. I drive through Lake

891
01:04:24,372 --> 01:04:27,052
Street in Nickel Street almost on a daily basis. As

892
01:04:27,052 --> 01:04:29,172
a mobile dog groomer, I aim to provide services of

893
01:04:29,593 --> 01:04:32,292
care to my community. And I'm working every day to

894
01:04:32,332 --> 01:04:34,372
find more ways I can be involved and act to

895
01:04:34,553 --> 01:04:40,204
improve my city. That being said, I speak with my

896
01:04:40,244 --> 01:04:43,164
clients about their thoughts on the city and their needs.

897
01:04:43,164 --> 01:04:46,284
Many of them has expressed opinions over the years of

898
01:04:46,284 --> 01:04:52,364
the condition of, um, one, the traffic. But also generally

899
01:04:52,465 --> 01:04:55,004
how they've been made promises as they were moving in

900
01:04:55,185 --> 01:05:00,124
to have a beautiful city, some of the most gorgeous

901
01:05:00,305 --> 01:05:04,844
scenery going through Lake Street, for example. And, um, they

902
01:05:04,865 --> 01:05:10,124
feel like that's not being met. Um, and having a

903
01:05:10,305 --> 01:05:14,284
zone change from an M1 warehouse to an M2 would

904
01:05:14,385 --> 01:05:23,306
be even worse of a change. Also, as a resident,

905
01:05:23,346 --> 01:05:27,866
I was here for the Macy fire. My mom has

906
01:05:27,887 --> 01:05:32,266
a very severe breathing condition. And as an animal lover,

907
01:05:32,266 --> 01:05:35,926
I also have 10 pets. Definitely not all furry. You

908
01:05:35,926 --> 01:05:39,626
know, we've got some toads in there. But, um, it

909
01:05:39,647 --> 01:05:43,546
took us 10 hours to evacuate our animals. And that's

910
01:05:43,567 --> 01:05:48,506
not including the traffic. That's not, um, that's not even

911
01:05:48,527 --> 01:05:52,906
including the trips back and forth from different boarding facilities,

912
01:05:52,906 --> 01:05:57,386
finding a place for us to stay while the air

913
01:05:57,426 --> 01:06:02,666
quality was so horrible. Now I am fearful of the

914
01:06:02,666 --> 01:06:05,066
next time that we have to evacuate. Because while we've

915
01:06:05,167 --> 01:06:09,226
made plans just in case, I want to make sure

916
01:06:09,247 --> 01:06:14,544
that my family can get out safely. And there's only

917
01:06:14,645 --> 01:06:18,304
so many people and animals you can fit into one

918
01:06:18,405 --> 01:06:22,304
or two small vehicles. Um, and so having to take

919
01:06:22,485 --> 01:06:27,904
multiple trips, knowing how atrocious the traffic already is. Again,

920
01:06:27,944 --> 01:06:30,064
as a mobile business, I have to sit through it

921
01:06:30,064 --> 01:06:36,624
every day. Um, I am deeply, deeply concerned. Uh, so

922
01:06:36,645 --> 01:06:40,058
please don't change the zoning. Thank you. Thank you, Harley.

923
01:06:44,338 --> 01:06:51,211
The next speaker is David Noblet. Good evening, commissioners and

924
01:06:51,232 --> 01:06:54,331
city staff. Thank you for this venue to point out

925
01:06:54,592 --> 01:06:57,981
and make comments to, uh, to this project. So a

926
01:06:57,981 --> 01:07:00,781
few, first of all, I do live in South Corona,

927
01:07:00,781 --> 01:07:01,781
so I don't live in the city, but I do

928
01:07:01,842 --> 01:07:05,732
have a lot of the same. Traffic challenges that, you

929
01:07:05,732 --> 01:07:07,992
know, residents in the city like elsewhere do. So we're

930
01:07:07,992 --> 01:07:10,392
not toned up to that. So a few things to

931
01:07:10,392 --> 01:07:13,592
point out. The site already does have M1 and M

932
01:07:13,853 --> 01:07:18,806
zone. M2 zoning on the site. And so that's existing

933
01:07:19,147 --> 01:07:22,566
already there. It is just to create a consistency of

934
01:07:22,667 --> 01:07:26,006
zoning. Um, and what that does is it allows for

935
01:07:26,046 --> 01:07:30,246
an M2 zoning. It allows a more larger breath of

936
01:07:30,427 --> 01:07:34,166
users that have manufacturing uses higher paying jobs. Tech industry

937
01:07:34,206 --> 01:07:37,046
jobs to come in and actually operate and facilitate those

938
01:07:37,067 --> 01:07:43,271
buildings. Um, couple things also. Projects like this. Are the

939
01:07:43,292 --> 01:07:46,631
backbone of infrastructure for cities in the inland empire. They

940
01:07:46,652 --> 01:07:49,751
pay for the fire department such as this project is

941
01:07:50,492 --> 01:07:53,991
road streets bridges cities general fund. And so when you

942
01:07:53,991 --> 01:07:55,671
have a city, you know, that has a lot of

943
01:07:55,852 --> 01:07:59,031
residents and commercial, but not a lot of industrial. It's

944
01:07:59,031 --> 01:08:01,591
hard to get, you know, to offset those costs. Um,

945
01:08:01,612 --> 01:08:06,151
this project is really showing one of the very, very

946
01:08:06,252 --> 01:08:10,631
few industrial zone areas inside the city of Lake Elsinor.

947
01:08:10,631 --> 01:08:13,911
Um, and so, you know, the city or Temescal canyon,

948
01:08:13,911 --> 01:08:16,391
county land has industrial projects that they're going to benefit

949
01:08:16,431 --> 01:08:19,351
from those dollars. But inside the city of Lake Elsednor,

950
01:08:19,351 --> 01:08:22,231
the handful of projects that actually can, you know, reap

951
01:08:22,271 --> 01:08:24,551
the benefit of that. And so, you know, one of

952
01:08:24,551 --> 01:08:27,591
the gentlemen had mentioned that he was driving to Riverside

953
01:08:27,692 --> 01:08:31,031
up north to the 15, um, every day for work.

954
01:08:31,031 --> 01:08:33,751
Well, the idea is when you have it a warehouse,

955
01:08:33,751 --> 01:08:37,511
when you have a manufacturing facility in your own city,

956
01:08:37,532 --> 01:08:40,311
there's presence that will no longer have to commute up

957
01:08:40,732 --> 01:08:43,751
the freeway or down the freeway. Temecula, I grew up

958
01:08:43,791 --> 01:08:48,791
in specula. Temacula, Lake Elsinor, Minifee, that whole canyon, everybody

959
01:08:48,892 --> 01:08:51,540
drives out. And so, you know, you either drive to

960
01:08:51,580 --> 01:08:54,660
San Diego, Orange County, Riverside County, or Los Angeles County.

961
01:08:55,613 --> 01:08:58,632
With projects now in the inland empire, um, as a

962
01:08:58,632 --> 01:09:02,712
whole, and good skilled labor jobs, um, medium labor and,

963
01:09:02,712 --> 01:09:04,952
you know, high intensity labor jobs. We are now bringing

964
01:09:05,053 --> 01:09:08,472
our residents back home more time with their families, less

965
01:09:08,512 --> 01:09:10,872
time on the roads. So thank you for your time.

966
01:09:10,872 --> 01:09:15,136
Appreciate it. Thank you very much. The next speaker is

967
01:09:15,157 --> 01:09:24,010
David O'Malley. Good evening.

968
01:09:25,941 --> 01:09:29,520
Hopefully I can bring a positive end tonight's presentation. I

969
01:09:29,541 --> 01:09:33,120
have kind of a weird hobby or liking. I am

970
01:09:33,221 --> 01:09:36,212
very interested in land planning. And I really like to

971
01:09:36,252 --> 01:09:38,292
see projects like this one tonight in front of you

972
01:09:38,633 --> 01:09:42,212
that are well planned and are designed for a site

973
01:09:42,212 --> 01:09:45,492
and situation. I've looked at the exhibits. I've looked at,

974
01:09:45,492 --> 01:09:47,892
I've spoken to the applicant. And this is one of

975
01:09:47,913 --> 01:09:50,553
a kind. Um, it isn't going up the five freeway

976
01:09:50,814 --> 01:09:52,713
in grapevine and seeing a big box with a sign

977
01:09:52,713 --> 01:09:57,250
on it. Very sensitive, well - negotiated. You hear the

978
01:09:57,290 --> 01:10:01,010
word impact. There's a lot of good impact that this

979
01:10:01,010 --> 01:10:04,830
property brings. This application brings. It's a great investment. Um,

980
01:10:05,271 --> 01:10:07,650
I thought I heard nine million dollars with a roadway

981
01:10:07,690 --> 01:10:13,055
improvements. That's well done. School fees for an industrial site.

982
01:10:13,055 --> 01:10:17,455
Well done. Conservation mitigation and banking. Well done. I don't

983
01:10:17,455 --> 01:10:20,175
think I've ever heard that before in all my years

984
01:10:20,356 --> 01:10:26,335
in this business where a industrial design and application actually

985
01:10:26,516 --> 01:10:31,055
is sensitive toward the environment. So, um, impact can be

986
01:10:31,095 --> 01:10:34,015
good. And I think impacts will be very good on

987
01:10:34,596 --> 01:10:37,935
this particular application and a great addition to your city.

988
01:10:37,935 --> 01:10:42,359
Thank you. Thank you very much. We did have one

989
01:10:42,399 --> 01:10:44,839
last speaker request come in. It is Brianna Sora.

990
01:10:54,190 --> 01:10:57,451
Hi. Everyone. You can pull it down so we can

991
01:10:57,451 --> 01:11:00,084
hear you a little bit. Thank you. Um, hi everyone.

992
01:11:00,084 --> 01:11:03,044
My name is Brianna Sarah. I'm here to oppose the

993
01:11:03,065 --> 01:11:06,724
Baker Street Mega Warehouse. Actually a, I've been living here

994
01:11:06,905 --> 01:11:09,764
my whole life. I grew up in Lakeyesnor. I moved

995
01:11:09,764 --> 01:11:13,084
to Orange County. I went to undergrad over there. I

996
01:11:13,084 --> 01:11:15,604
went to grad school and I recently came back and

997
01:11:15,604 --> 01:11:19,480
I purchased a home in the terracena community. And I

998
01:11:19,581 --> 01:11:24,011
love Lake Elsinor. I never thought I would say that.

999
01:11:24,011 --> 01:11:26,971
Growing up, I remember always wanting to leave just because

1000
01:11:28,352 --> 01:11:30,791
I felt like we were such a small town, but

1001
01:11:30,791 --> 01:11:33,451
coming back in saying how big and how much it

1002
01:11:33,491 --> 01:11:36,091
has expanded and the growth, I wanted to move back

1003
01:11:36,192 --> 01:11:40,251
and just stay here. So when I learned about the

1004
01:11:41,072 --> 01:11:44,811
mega Baker Street Make a Warehouse, I was pretty upset

1005
01:11:44,851 --> 01:11:48,491
just because I felt like we can't be just wasn't

1006
01:11:48,531 --> 01:11:53,131
transparent. I also remember coming to the planning commission meetings.

1007
01:11:53,131 --> 01:11:54,651
And I just felt like there was also a lack

1008
01:11:54,651 --> 01:11:57,599
of transparency there as well. I also feel like the

1009
01:11:57,620 --> 01:12:01,679
city council hasn't really represented us as residents. Um, and

1010
01:12:01,780 --> 01:12:05,039
I feel like we're just being sold to the mega

1011
01:12:05,039 --> 01:12:08,639
companies and to kind of address someone else's comment about

1012
01:12:09,460 --> 01:12:14,319
how these make a warehouses are going to create jobs.

1013
01:12:14,319 --> 01:12:17,359
A lot of people who have, for example, for me,

1014
01:12:17,359 --> 01:12:18,959
this will not be a good job for me. This

1015
01:12:18,959 --> 01:12:21,199
is not sustainable. I cannot live on this type of

1016
01:12:22,660 --> 01:12:26,719
outwardly wage job. And I also don't want my health

1017
01:12:26,740 --> 01:12:29,759
impact to be impacted while it's a concern for if

1018
01:12:29,799 --> 01:12:31,559
I ever want to have children. If they're going to

1019
01:12:31,559 --> 01:12:33,759
have any health issues just due to the proximity of

1020
01:12:33,780 --> 01:12:36,959
the mega warehouse. So I want to concern by the

1021
01:12:36,980 --> 01:12:40,239
fire hazards. Um, like I said, I, my family husband

1022
01:12:40,340 --> 01:12:42,559
here for a very long time. And I have seen

1023
01:12:42,580 --> 01:12:46,879
those wild fires and they're very, very scary. And the

1024
01:12:46,919 --> 01:12:50,059
traffic is already so terrible on the Nichols road. And

1025
01:12:50,059 --> 01:12:51,759
if it's not going to be widened, that's a very

1026
01:12:51,780 --> 01:12:55,599
concerning because there's a lot of residents that not just

1027
01:12:55,700 --> 01:13:00,639
live in the Albrecht, but they also live, um, Mac

1028
01:13:00,679 --> 01:13:03,839
Baker area. We also have the residents that label on

1029
01:13:03,839 --> 01:13:05,659
the other side of the lake. Those are a lot

1030
01:13:05,659 --> 01:13:08,639
of residents. And I feel like you guys need to

1031
01:13:08,639 --> 01:13:14,555
address our concerns first prior. To moving forward with this

1032
01:13:14,555 --> 01:13:18,453
project. Because right now I feel like this is not

1033
01:13:18,474 --> 01:13:22,053
acceptable and it's not really compatible with the surrounding area.

1034
01:13:22,053 --> 01:13:28,408
Thank you. Thank you. Could includes the speakers for tonight.

1035
01:13:31,271 --> 01:13:34,130
Sorry. Was that concludes the speakers for chat? Yes. I

1036
01:13:34,130 --> 01:13:36,850
know we have the pleasure of having, um, a representative

1037
01:13:37,031 --> 01:13:39,490
of traffic with us tonight. I don't know if you're

1038
01:13:39,511 --> 01:13:43,570
prepared or interested in addressing any of the items of

1039
01:13:43,610 --> 01:13:44,450
concerns of the community.

1040
01:13:57,742 --> 01:14:01,772
All right. Sorry for John's spot there. Oh, no worries.

1041
01:14:01,772 --> 01:14:05,532
Uh, yeah, good evening, Chair and Commissioners. Happy to be

1042
01:14:05,532 --> 01:14:09,192
here with you tonight. Um, so obviously I'm Paul. I'm

1043
01:14:09,192 --> 01:14:12,332
the senior engineer here with the city of Lake Elsinor.

1044
01:14:12,332 --> 01:14:17,212
So obviously we recognize the congestion down the nickels road

1045
01:14:17,212 --> 01:14:21,679
area. And so there is an overall city plan to

1046
01:14:21,700 --> 01:14:24,399
help out with the congestion in the area. Um, baker

1047
01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:27,519
is one piece of that. So bakers are obviously going

1048
01:14:27,519 --> 01:14:31,119
to install the intersection improvements at nickelsroad and baker. And

1049
01:14:31,119 --> 01:14:33,919
then they're going to do the realignment as Dane was

1050
01:14:33,919 --> 01:14:37,439
discussing earlier. And then they also, um, that includes a

1051
01:14:37,479 --> 01:14:40,279
signal. And they'll also be building out peer street. So

1052
01:14:40,279 --> 01:14:42,959
that'll provide a nice connection for the community over there

1053
01:14:42,999 --> 01:14:45,279
as well, uh, to have a quicker route to the

1054
01:14:45,319 --> 01:14:49,037
interchange. On top of that, they're obviously contributing the 9

1055
01:14:49,077 --> 01:14:53,430
million dollars. Sorry, let me fix this. On top of

1056
01:14:53,430 --> 01:14:55,590
that, they're contributing 9 million dollars. So that really provides

1057
01:14:55,931 --> 01:15:00,150
the city with flexibility, um, to construct additional improvements in

1058
01:15:00,150 --> 01:15:04,770
the area. Uh, as we see, you know, congestion, uh,

1059
01:15:06,171 --> 01:15:08,550
as we see it develop. On top of that, you

1060
01:15:08,571 --> 01:15:12,310
may remember, call your retail shops. They actually got conditioned

1061
01:15:12,331 --> 01:15:16,870
to construct the signal at Collier Avenue at Nichols Road.

1062
01:15:16,870 --> 01:15:19,030
So that is in final design right now. And that

1063
01:15:19,030 --> 01:15:22,657
will be constructed. Within the next, you know, year or

1064
01:15:22,657 --> 01:15:25,577
so here. And addition to that, we are working with

1065
01:15:26,078 --> 01:15:29,059
a master developer of the Albert Hill Ranch area. And

1066
01:15:29,059 --> 01:15:32,739
so, um, he has a lot of projects down the

1067
01:15:32,739 --> 01:15:35,599
pipeline in this area. Right now they're actually progressing. The

1068
01:15:35,599 --> 01:15:39,539
conceptual design of changing nickel's road to a foreign lane

1069
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:42,479
road. So that is in the works as well. Um,

1070
01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:46,339
and on top of that, the city has the nickel's

1071
01:15:46,379 --> 01:15:49,299
bridge and interchange project that's currently going through the environmental

1072
01:15:49,320 --> 01:15:54,349
document. So there's a lot of things playing on in

1073
01:15:54,389 --> 01:15:56,489
the background aside from just what you see in the

1074
01:15:56,489 --> 01:15:59,869
conditions here. So I think that that will really help.

1075
01:15:59,869 --> 01:16:03,469
But obviously, you know, improvements take time. And so a

1076
01:16:03,469 --> 01:16:06,189
lot of these do have some environmental components such as

1077
01:16:06,229 --> 01:16:10,785
the interchange. So. In my mind, that's the big picture

1078
01:16:10,966 --> 01:16:16,468
of how everything will develop here over time. Thank you

1079
01:16:16,508 --> 01:16:21,755
very much. All right. Um, do any commissioners have questions

1080
01:16:22,096 --> 01:16:30,004
for staff or wish to make any comments. To be.

1081
01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:33,562
Able to lane. Girls. Now we're talking. Five years. 10

1082
01:16:33,583 --> 01:16:41,685
years. 30. So realistically, it's all tied to, if there

1083
01:16:41,685 --> 01:16:45,445
is any environmental, um, if there's none, it could be

1084
01:16:46,666 --> 01:16:49,605
three years, like anticipated window when that could come in.

1085
01:16:50,502 --> 01:16:59,677
So right. Now. KD home.

1086
01:17:02,266 --> 01:17:05,125
Madam chair, I think the way this is supposed to

1087
01:17:05,165 --> 01:17:08,407
work. Is that we have a public comment substitute, but

1088
01:17:08,407 --> 01:17:10,747
we usually don't engage in a debate in this way.

1089
01:17:10,747 --> 01:17:14,747
So if anyone would want to talk to our traffic

1090
01:17:14,787 --> 01:17:16,827
engineer afterwards, it certainly would be available to do that.

1091
01:17:17,342 --> 01:17:26,823
All right. Thank you. Commissioners, any questions. Of staff. No.

1092
01:17:27,744 --> 01:17:30,523
Um, I would like to say that, um, I want

1093
01:17:30,523 --> 01:17:33,883
to acknowledge, um, everybody for coming out and addressing your

1094
01:17:33,904 --> 01:17:38,153
concerns, um, your support for the project. It's good for

1095
01:17:38,153 --> 01:17:41,085
us to hear from the community. Um, I understand why

1096
01:17:41,586 --> 01:17:46,445
project of this size, um, particularly one involving warehouse operations

1097
01:17:46,626 --> 01:17:52,326
and traffic generates concerns within the community. Our responsibility here

1098
01:17:52,507 --> 01:17:55,366
is a planning commission is to evaluate the project based

1099
01:17:55,366 --> 01:18:00,006
on the city's general plan, the municipal code, environmental review.

1100
01:18:01,591 --> 01:18:06,370
Project design and the conditions that we have the authority

1101
01:18:06,410 --> 01:18:09,330
to impose, which there are several conditions in their conditions

1102
01:18:09,431 --> 01:18:14,759
of approval for this project. So. Um, you know, I

1103
01:18:14,759 --> 01:18:18,279
want to say we hear you, but that's what our

1104
01:18:18,319 --> 01:18:20,919
role is here as the planning commission. So if we

1105
01:18:20,919 --> 01:18:28,039
don't have any other, uh, commissioner's comments, uh, declare, sorry,

1106
01:18:29,180 --> 01:18:31,159
first of all, I appreciate the passion that was brought

1107
01:18:31,159 --> 01:18:32,759
out here tonight. This is part of what I love

1108
01:18:32,799 --> 01:18:35,939
about the lake housenor community. And there was a lot

1109
01:18:35,939 --> 01:18:40,119
of great points that were made all well taken and

1110
01:18:40,159 --> 01:18:45,104
noted, um. A couple of the comments were, well, you

1111
01:18:45,104 --> 01:18:49,053
need to address our concerns. Um, I'm not going to

1112
01:18:49,053 --> 01:18:51,733
sit here and address them point by point. But I

1113
01:18:51,754 --> 01:18:55,653
can say that I've been to, uh, the community outreach

1114
01:18:56,154 --> 01:18:59,973
that the developer has put on multiple times, not to

1115
01:18:59,973 --> 01:19:03,653
hear the same boring presentation, but to talk to the

1116
01:19:03,674 --> 01:19:06,133
community members who did come to the outreach. And so

1117
01:19:06,314 --> 01:19:09,473
I know the passion in this room right now. And

1118
01:19:09,473 --> 01:19:12,533
a lot of voices, but there's this discussion has been

1119
01:19:12,533 --> 01:19:14,313
going on for a while. And there are a lot

1120
01:19:14,313 --> 01:19:17,606
of other voices who have opinions as well. Um, that

1121
01:19:17,707 --> 01:19:19,926
being said, you know, some of the concerns that I

1122
01:19:19,966 --> 01:19:23,908
heard we didn't know that, uh, it was industrial. But

1123
01:19:24,169 --> 01:19:28,398
it's, it's been industrial. Um, and in fact, part of

1124
01:19:28,398 --> 01:19:33,054
it is already M2. I'm personally in favor of larger

1125
01:19:34,035 --> 01:19:38,094
industrial buildings as opposed to smaller. You have the ability

1126
01:19:38,094 --> 01:19:42,014
to have more structured and strategic. You're going to have

1127
01:19:42,014 --> 01:19:45,550
those trucks if it's industrial. And we have a bigger

1128
01:19:45,651 --> 01:19:47,950
warehouse. You have one user who they don't want to

1129
01:19:47,990 --> 01:19:50,664
sit with the cars either. They're going to be more

1130
01:19:50,664 --> 01:19:55,384
strategic on how they're scheduling their routes and how they're,

1131
01:19:55,384 --> 01:19:58,719
um, how they're making their ways in and out. Um,

1132
01:19:58,900 --> 01:20:01,119
and lastly, one of the speakers said that, uh, they

1133
01:20:01,140 --> 01:20:04,159
were proud to call, you know, this home Lake Elsinor

1134
01:20:04,199 --> 01:20:05,519
and they didn't think they were ever going to say

1135
01:20:05,519 --> 01:20:07,199
that. And they talked about the beauty and the expansion

1136
01:20:07,300 --> 01:20:09,999
that has gone on in the city. And this, this

1137
01:20:10,039 --> 01:20:15,177
is part of that. And unfortunately the roads don't get

1138
01:20:15,198 --> 01:20:18,518
bigger. The roads don't get bigger on their own. They

1139
01:20:18,539 --> 01:20:23,101
get bigger out of necessity. And things like our city

1140
01:20:23,122 --> 01:20:28,027
staff did an incredible job negotiating nine million dollars. To

1141
01:20:28,027 --> 01:20:31,947
go towards doing this stuff that we want. So all,

1142
01:20:31,947 --> 01:20:36,427
all the concerns that I've heard are valid. And they've

1143
01:20:38,448 --> 01:20:46,138
been. Comple. They've been, um, addressing those concerns. Yeah. I

1144
01:20:46,138 --> 01:20:47,812
mean, that you would act like. 9 million dollars in

1145
01:20:47,812 --> 01:20:54,909
a lot of money. So. I wouldn't say. Good job.

1146
01:20:55,261 --> 01:21:01,372
I'd say unitable. Job. Are. Somebody who's not a place.

1147
01:21:01,372 --> 01:21:04,172
I'm sorry, but the time for public comments is closed.

1148
01:21:04,172 --> 01:21:06,653
You were all given an opportunity to speak. I'm sorry.

1149
01:21:08,530 --> 01:21:18,194
I got. Your meeting in your room. I'm sorry.

1150
01:21:18,535 --> 01:21:22,255
Yeah. All right.

1151
01:21:40,988 --> 01:21:47,065
We keep moving forward. So. Were you doing? Yes. No.

1152
01:21:47,065 --> 01:21:50,051
Thank you. All right. Public here. I'm going to declare

1153
01:21:50,152 --> 01:21:55,431
the public hearing closed. The time is now 720. Uh,

1154
01:21:55,471 --> 01:22:04,920
may I have a motion. All right. We have a

1155
01:22:05,101 --> 01:22:11,261
motion for approval. Vice chair dvor. Any second.

1156
01:22:17,008 --> 01:22:26,020
By Commissioner Gray. So we'll move to vote. Is it.

1157
01:22:26,216 --> 01:22:32,813
Posting. Oh, I. Can't see.

1158
01:22:43,022 --> 01:22:51,944
The motion passes unanimously. All right. Motion passes unanimously. Congratulations

1159
01:22:52,125 --> 01:22:56,310
to Byrne African. Do we have staff comments tonight. No

1160
01:22:56,331 --> 01:23:01,584
comments tonight. City Attorney comments. No comments, manager. Any other

1161
01:23:01,685 --> 01:23:06,836
commissioner comments. Thank you for staff for all the information

1162
01:23:07,177 --> 01:23:10,396
you guys provided. It was great. Thank you. Yeah, it

1163
01:23:10,396 --> 01:23:13,956
was a great comprehensive report and package. So yeah, thank

1164
01:23:13,956 --> 01:23:16,276
you to staff for all of your work and to

1165
01:23:16,276 --> 01:23:19,316
the applicant for all of their outreach for this. All

1166
01:23:19,316 --> 01:23:22,436
right. Uh, the Lake Elsanor planning commission will join at

1167
01:23:22,857 --> 01:23:27,396
721 to the next regular meeting on Tuesday, September 15th.