1 00:00:01,199 --> 00:00:10,160 Okay, 7 o'clock. Please rise for the pledge. 2 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:13,240 » I pledge to the flag of Americus. 3 00:00:29,279 --> 00:00:31,679 Robert Lairway >> here. 4 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:34,320 » Ramped >> here. 5 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:40,520 » Shannon here. Dave Tberson >> here. 6 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:40,520 We have a 7 00:00:42,480 --> 00:00:51,200 we have the agenda approved or in front of us here. There are no objections. 8 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:58,640 We'll accept it as written. Seeing none, agenda is approved. Consent 9 00:00:54,000 --> 00:01:04,000 agenda. Any additions, corrections, questions? 10 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:07,840 Entertain a motion to adopt the consent agenda. Motion 11 00:01:06,159 --> 00:01:10,000 » motion made by Lairway to accept the consent agenda. Is there a second? 12 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:15,840 » Second. >> Seconded by Pee. Further discussion. 13 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:21,240 Seeing none, all in favor say I. >> All oppose say no. Motion carries. 14 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:26,840 Okay. reports and presentations. 15 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:37,360 I want to thank Tim and his staff for a yman's 16 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:41,680 effort during the ice storm with all the trees and ice and everything down and 17 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:46,079 cleaning off the roads in the last couple of weeks. It's been uh it's been 18 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:49,520 more of a challenge getting down cold water and river road than it is in Lake 19 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:53,520 Isabella. So, >> I know that sometimes we take that for 20 00:01:51,439 --> 00:02:00,479 granted. I sure don't though, and I appreciate it. Also, I have a uh award 21 00:01:58,079 --> 00:02:07,280 to give Tim from the International City Managers 22 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:10,280 Association for being a member for 25 years. 23 00:02:10,479 --> 00:02:13,479 » Tim, 24 00:02:16,239 --> 00:02:25,120 to clarify, I've not been here 25 years. >> Correct. A motion. 25 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:30,560 » Yeah. 22 on groundhog's day. >> He was here. You were in Breenidge. 26 00:02:27,200 --> 00:02:35,840 » Yes. I was a council member. Bracken Ridge. 27 00:02:32,239 --> 00:02:40,239 » Yeah. That explains a lot. I moved over to the dark side. 28 00:02:38,879 --> 00:02:44,080 So, I only had to convince seven people to give me a job, not 200 to vote for 29 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:47,680 me. It was a lot easier. >> Good point. 30 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:51,120 » Congratulations, Tim. Thank you for all your efforts. They could have given this 31 00:02:49,599 --> 00:02:56,280 to me in person, but I had to fly down to Tampa on the bill's dime and I 32 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:56,280 thought this would probably 33 00:02:58,319 --> 00:03:02,560 miss his opportunity. >> I would have approved it though. 34 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:04,080 » Yeah. >> Wouldn't you? 35 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:05,680 » Yeah, I would have. >> Yes. 36 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,800 » All right. >> Next time. 37 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:11,200 » Next. You should tell us in sooner. >> Yeah. 38 00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:16,280 » 25 years. We could approve it. >> Yeah. Bit his 50-year one. He tampo. 39 00:03:16,319 --> 00:03:27,800 » All right. Mr. manager, your report. Um, yeah, plowing a lot of snow, cutting 40 00:03:23,280 --> 00:03:27,800 a lot of trees. Um, 41 00:03:27,920 --> 00:03:36,400 going through a lot of salt, a lot of sand. Um, you know, no two winners are 42 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:42,000 alike. Uh, this year, that ice storm we got realistically was probably one of 43 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:48,480 the top five storms in my 22ish years here that we've had to manage. Um, 44 00:03:44,319 --> 00:03:54,080 simply from a a tree down standpoint, the new John Deere with the grapple was 45 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:58,239 unbelievably awesome in that event. Like we were we legitimately probably had a 46 00:03:56,319 --> 00:04:02,080 hundred tree or tree limbs that we had to clean and we were done by two o'clock 47 00:04:00,159 --> 00:04:05,120 the next day because it was pick it up, move it out of the way, pick it up, move 48 00:04:03,280 --> 00:04:10,319 it out of the way. Um, >> a lot of good positive feedback from 49 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:14,080 that. had a call from Ike King on Monday thanking us for the the work that we did 50 00:04:12,319 --> 00:04:18,400 to keep the place somewhat drivable Monday morning. Um but yeah, this 51 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:25,360 winter, you know, we had a little bit of a rep reprieve. Um but it's it's been 52 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:29,440 pretty taxing, you know, December and January so far and the next 53 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:35,759 really to the end of the month is going to be cold. So, um, but I'm plus side, 54 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:39,199 not to be a weather man, but if it gets cold, the big lakes might freeze up a 55 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:48,000 little bit. That'll choke off the lake effect. Hopefully hopefully that'll 56 00:04:42,639 --> 00:04:52,720 that'll help moving forward. Um, but on to my report. Um, I did reach out to 57 00:04:50,479 --> 00:04:57,040 the county. Uh, we were seeing a vehicle that was being continually left 58 00:04:53,840 --> 00:05:01,680 overnight at Gilmore Park. Um through some back and forth they did agree to 59 00:04:59,199 --> 00:05:05,360 they put up like you know camping sign. Um I did give them a copy of the deed 60 00:05:03,759 --> 00:05:09,039 from Lake Isabella to the county that pointed out that you can't park camp 61 00:05:06,960 --> 00:05:14,800 there. So you know sign would be the least they could do in my opinion. Um 62 00:05:12,639 --> 00:05:18,560 but yeah car was parked there for like four or five days in a row overnight. 63 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:22,479 Just left. Um it was back this weekend but gone. So 64 00:05:19,840 --> 00:05:27,680 » there were people fishing at night. >> Yeah. you know, um 65 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:30,560 that car was there the whole time like snow was on it, no tire track leave like 66 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:31,440 » Yeah. >> Yeah. 67 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,919 » Um >> keeping it warm. 68 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:37,840 » And that kind of leads into the next point. In the budget, we approved funds 69 00:05:35,759 --> 00:05:42,960 for two street lights, one at Queensway and Seilla, one at Dquesta and the 70 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:46,880 Lotto. Um giving that type of activity where we've seen at the park, which is 71 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:50,800 more frequent people hanging out there in the evening, 72 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:54,240 not during ice fishing season, right? Um, to me that's a place that a third 73 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:58,880 street light would be a wise investment. So, I haven't gotten the prices back 74 00:05:55,520 --> 00:06:02,160 from homeworks on that yet, but um, I would look at probably adding a third 75 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:05,680 one to our plan this year just for that for a deterrent type thing. You know, 76 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:09,919 that's such a convenient location that you can park way back and no one really 77 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:13,919 sees you. If we can throw some light on that park, it may encourage people to 78 00:06:12,319 --> 00:06:18,000 find another place for whatever business they are transacting in that park. 79 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,759 » The side advantage too is lots of deer cross there. 80 00:06:18,639 --> 00:06:25,039 » 100%. That's great. >> That would really help there. 81 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:28,479 » Yeah, we do have a sign there. Yeah. >> Deer can't read. 82 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:33,680 » And the sign is lovely. >> It's lovely. It's a lovely sign. 83 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:38,680 » You know, like on 20 it says like next three miles. I was going to get on one 84 00:06:35,199 --> 00:06:38,680 that just said everywhere. 85 00:06:39,919 --> 00:06:46,479 » Um yeah. Um we did put the dam inspection 86 00:06:44,319 --> 00:06:50,240 report for 2025 up on our web page. So if you were to go to our website under 87 00:06:48,479 --> 00:06:56,479 the year community tab there is a whole page that is the lakea dam and we have 88 00:06:53,440 --> 00:07:00,319 over 30 documents um inspections reports all that stuff going back to the 89 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:04,639 original construction. So um that was born out of um the discussions going 90 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:08,319 back to the draw down in 2014. We wanted to have a single repository 91 00:07:07,039 --> 00:07:10,800 that the community can go and look at all the stuff and come to whatever 92 00:07:09,599 --> 00:07:14,400 conclusion they want to make about the dam and that kind of stuff. But uh there 93 00:07:12,880 --> 00:07:19,440 was no issue with the dam inspection report this year. Um, so right now it's 94 00:07:16,639 --> 00:07:25,199 still on that every three-year cycle uh because it is considered a high hazard 95 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:28,080 dam. And then uh lastly, our Misha grant money has been submitted for final 96 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:31,680 approval. So should we should be receiving those funds hopefully in the 97 00:07:29,759 --> 00:07:39,400 near future. >> They got downgraded though. So damn, 98 00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:39,400 it's fair, not satisfactory anymore. 99 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:45,120 » What part is fair? >> Uh I I haven't read all the way through 100 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:49,759 the report. Um, I've just heard rumblings about it. There's some small 101 00:07:47,759 --> 00:07:51,280 maintenance things that are easily fixable. 102 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:56,479 » Sure. >> Um, I think there's brush and trees and 103 00:07:54,639 --> 00:08:01,680 like a chain link fence that needs to be put back up or something to get back to 104 00:07:59,919 --> 00:08:04,400 the satisfactory. But I thought it was worth noting that. 105 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,680 » Yeah. It was not structural with the dam though. 106 00:08:04,879 --> 00:08:10,160 » No. >> No. But it's still I mean it's still a 107 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,160 diary. 108 00:08:12,479 --> 00:08:24,080 Okay. Any other questions, comments? >> Okay. Thank you, Mr. Wolf. Miss Vinger, 109 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:30,160 public safety committee met at six o'clock. What did you come up with? 110 00:08:26,479 --> 00:08:34,719 Anything? Um we discussed um some of the options that we are 111 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:40,719 thinking about presenting to the public on the layers of um funding versus 112 00:08:38,959 --> 00:08:46,640 coverage um and versus if we 113 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:51,040 fully sign if we contracted out versus in-house coverage. Um 114 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:57,760 » so you're doing a cost differential. Yeah, we're trying to um think of the 115 00:08:54,080 --> 00:09:01,440 best way to present the best information so that it's not an overload on data, 116 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:06,399 » right? >> Um we are going to meet again and 117 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:10,560 continue. >> Okay. When's your next meeting? You 118 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:13,440 know, yet you said >> 17 119 00:09:12,560 --> 00:09:20,760 of next month. >> Next month. Good enough. 120 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:20,760 Any questions for anybody? 121 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:31,120 All right. Public hearings. We have none public comments. 122 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:38,200 Anything? Nothing. Existing business. 123 00:09:33,279 --> 00:09:38,200 Uh we look to our airport liaison 124 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:46,080 memorial airport. Mr. Corser may have been here, but he's 125 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:54,000 not here. Is there any update on that? So, he stopped in um last week and just 126 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:58,640 had a couple questions about when they would take over the insurance payment if 127 00:09:56,640 --> 00:10:02,959 that was the only payment that would be required for the lease option. They're 128 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:08,399 very interested in the lease option until they can get all of their ducks in 129 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:11,839 a row and then take over the airport completely. But until that point, 130 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:15,120 they're interested in the lease option. They just needed to know if they were 131 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:21,440 going to be responsible for the insurance from like January through June 132 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:25,200 of this year or if the payment would start in July at the new fiscal year 133 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:31,680 when the new insurance comes out. >> Okay. And and and we're paid up until 134 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:36,560 I think June 30th actually. No, it's into August, isn't it? Because the 135 00:10:32,959 --> 00:10:40,480 airport policy it doesn't match tightly on the fiscal year. It's a little bit 136 00:10:37,839 --> 00:10:44,480 after, but I would say Labor Day ballpark. 137 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:47,839 » So, so they we already paid that. >> We've already paid for the this fiscal 138 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:52,240 year. >> So, and they're aware of that. They just 139 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:54,959 didn't know when it ended. They wanted to know if they were going to be 140 00:10:53,519 --> 00:10:59,440 responsible like once they took the lease over if we if we were gonna like 141 00:10:57,519 --> 00:11:03,360 prorate it to where they would still be they'd be responsible for the months 142 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:08,240 even though they would then pay us back for what we've already paid 143 00:11:05,680 --> 00:11:16,959 » um since they were leasing it or if that payment amount would then start when 144 00:11:14,560 --> 00:11:22,279 » and I told them I told Tom that that would be a council decision. 145 00:11:19,279 --> 00:11:22,279 » Yeah. 146 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:27,760 So what direction do we want to give them? 147 00:11:26,480 --> 00:11:33,120 So what do we think? >> Well, we're basically just leasing it to 148 00:11:30,560 --> 00:11:36,720 cost and then then they're are going to be responsible for the upkeep and 149 00:11:34,399 --> 00:11:38,880 everything from that point forward. Correct. 150 00:11:37,440 --> 00:11:42,320 » Well, when they when they have the lease, they're responsible for 151 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:46,399 everything. Correct, Kim? >> Correct. Yeah. Well, the way that we 152 00:11:44,959 --> 00:11:49,279 would want to do it is we would still do the insurance and the the lease amount 153 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:51,760 would cover the insurance, right? Gotcha. Yeah. 154 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:55,440 » Right. So I mean the lease amount is just for the insurance coverage more or 155 00:11:53,200 --> 00:12:00,800 less as well. Getting >> you know so if that's that's the case in 156 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:04,880 my mind I think the insurance money that's although it's already paid if 157 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:07,680 should be reimbursed to the village if they're taking it over from that point 158 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:12,399 going forward. >> Yes. How much is that by the way? 159 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:17,200 » Like $1600 roughly a year. 160 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:19,839 » Yeah. Oh yeah. 161 00:12:17,519 --> 00:12:22,959 » Okay. That's not >> okay. So that would be that would be 162 00:12:21,279 --> 00:12:25,279 included in their lease payment >> or that would be their lease pay 163 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:27,839 » that would be their lease payment. >> Gotcha. And they're fine with that. They 164 00:12:26,959 --> 00:12:34,000 just wanted to know >> they want to know are you going to make 165 00:12:29,279 --> 00:12:39,000 them pay the full 1,600 or just >> break it down 166 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:39,000 » the six months of that 1600 167 00:12:39,839 --> 00:12:45,120 » whenever they took the lease. I think whenever they lease 168 00:12:43,519 --> 00:12:50,160 » so the remainder is what you're saying. the remainder. 169 00:12:48,079 --> 00:12:53,920 » I don't care what you guys do. Yeah. I I I don't I mean, we already spent it, so 170 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:56,160 » we've already spent it. Yeah. Like >> Yeah. 171 00:12:54,399 --> 00:13:00,720 » I just think there my only thing is there should be like a hard cap before 172 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:04,320 we renew it. Like you got to make your decision by 173 00:13:01,680 --> 00:13:07,680 » Yeah. You know, July 1st or we're going to cancel that policy and then that's 174 00:13:06,079 --> 00:13:12,720 over. >> We're not going to have an airplane. 175 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:17,440 » Yeah. How much time did he say indicate that he need Did he indicate online 176 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:24,399 meeting? >> Not necessarily. He said that they are 177 00:13:20,959 --> 00:13:29,519 in talks. It's hard for everybody to get together right now. Um they've got one 178 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:34,079 person working on the LLC. They've got another person working on some other 179 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:38,079 logistics. >> Okay. Do we want to send the hard cap? 180 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:42,000 We want to set it now so that at least Jessica has something to say to them. He 181 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:49,680 asks. >> So tell me what we would say 182 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:52,800 » like Brent said June 1st or whatever. >> Yeah. I could care less if they 183 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:55,839 reimburse us. We've already paid the policy, right? 184 00:13:54,399 --> 00:13:58,480 » We already signed up for it. I mean, that'd be an olive branch. You have six 185 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:01,600 months to >> 90 days before the policy expires. 186 00:14:00,399 --> 00:14:03,680 » Yes. >> Yeah. 187 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:06,480 » Yeah. We say 90 days. >> We want written notice or, you know, 188 00:14:05,279 --> 00:14:10,240 we're look to >> we're just going to remove it from our 189 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:13,279 policy. So we agree with that, >> you know, so we save the money 190 00:14:11,519 --> 00:14:14,160 » rather than collecting cash now. >> Right. 191 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:18,399 » Yeah. >> Right. I don't want that to stop them 192 00:14:16,959 --> 00:14:21,519 from taking over the lease, >> right? 193 00:14:18,959 --> 00:14:23,760 » Yeah. Since we've already paid it on rent. 194 00:14:22,480 --> 00:14:28,320 » Yeah. >> But I mean at some point I mean we've 195 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:34,000 been talking about this while I mean at some point you got to say like there's a 196 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:38,320 deadline so it has to progress. >> Yeah. I'd say 90 days before the policy 197 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:43,519 expires. >> Okay. It'll expire 90 days or there our 198 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:48,000 date would be what? 90 days. >> 90 days to accept a lease or 90 days to 199 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:52,320 take it over because at that point then are we not going to do a lease? 200 00:14:50,079 --> 00:14:56,720 » It's not what I say. You're saying 90 days before the insurance is done before 201 00:14:55,199 --> 00:15:00,399 insurance policy ends. >> They have to take the lease. 202 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:02,160 » They have to sign a lease 90 days before a policy. 203 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:05,440 » And they're fine with that. They want to sign a lease right now. That part 204 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:09,360 they're great with. They said yes, they'll do that because that gives them 205 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:13,519 the time to continue working on taking the airport over. Their only question 206 00:15:11,199 --> 00:15:17,519 was will their payments, you know, how much they need to start up front 207 00:15:15,920 --> 00:15:22,240 » or when would they start paying? That's their only question. They'll sign a 208 00:15:18,959 --> 00:15:25,199 lease as soon as it's ready. >> I 209 00:15:23,839 --> 00:15:26,880 I would just say new policy. We've already spent the money. 210 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:30,680 » Yeah, I agree. >> Right. Yeah, I agree. 211 00:15:30,959 --> 00:15:36,639 » So, their payments would start >> with the new policy. the new policy. We 212 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:39,760 could write the lease though and have that start now. 213 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:43,760 » They can have the lease now, but >> Okay. That's 214 00:15:41,279 --> 00:15:46,079 » in the lease. It'll you you'll take over that will be written in a lease. 215 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:50,079 » Yeah. >> But you have to assume the liability. 216 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,279 » Yeah. Or the airport's on their own meter. 217 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:55,199 » Yes, >> it is. So, it's separate. 218 00:15:54,079 --> 00:15:59,360 » Yeah, it's on a separate meter. And there's a transmitter uh option. So, if 219 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:02,240 you're a pilot, you can dial in the frequency, light click three times, 220 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:06,240 they'll come on, they'll come off, whatever you do. 221 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:11,440 » Um, we also have it set on a timer now, a dawn till dusk. Um, that way if 222 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:14,240 there's a radio issue, something like that, 223 00:16:12,399 --> 00:16:19,199 » emergency land, you know, they're they're on. And frankly, I think they 224 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:20,959 just look decent being on at night. They really do. 225 00:16:19,759 --> 00:16:23,839 » Well, that was just something I didn't know was, you know, what how we were 226 00:16:22,480 --> 00:16:27,519 going to handle the power if they pay the bill because we wanted them on all 227 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:30,000 night. That'll be part of the lease. >> Yeah. Yeah. 228 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:36,160 » They'll transfer that to them and >> then they property mowing the power 229 00:16:33,279 --> 00:16:40,320 almost nothing more than the power bill. 230 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:42,959 » They've already looked into that as well. I mean, he's asked what it was and 231 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:48,320 I've told him >> it's like 78 bucks a month. So, and he 232 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:52,079 and some of the other airport people were part of, you know, setting it up to 233 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:54,720 where it's on at night. So, they're not going to have any issues, 234 00:16:53,759 --> 00:16:59,759 » you know, with that. >> Okay. Good. Perfect. Thank you. 235 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,279 » So, you know what to say. >> Yes. 236 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:04,400 » Okay. >> So, we could perhaps expect at least by 237 00:17:03,519 --> 00:17:06,160 next meeting. >> Yes. 238 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:09,160 » We're going to have to write for these. >> Yeah. 239 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:14,160 » So, so realistically at least in the next 60 days. Yeah. 240 00:17:13,919 --> 00:17:15,679 » Yeah. >> Okay. 241 00:17:14,559 --> 00:17:20,319 » Next couple. >> Okay. 242 00:17:16,799 --> 00:17:26,480 » New business proposed ordinance 20261 land division act regulations. 243 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:29,200 though among found that interesting camera. 244 00:17:26,959 --> 00:17:33,600 » Yeah, our community has a pretty unique history at the land vision act. Um our 245 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:37,200 original planning commission here, Mr. Jack Walker when he was a lobbyist for 246 00:17:35,360 --> 00:17:41,679 the real association was one of the primary authors of the current rendition 247 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:47,840 of the land division act as adopted in the mid 90s. Um yours truly worked with 248 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:52,559 the MML and a couple of senators to come up with this proposed amendment to the 249 00:17:49,919 --> 00:17:57,039 land division act. Um, specifically what this does is right now under the act, 250 00:17:55,360 --> 00:18:01,679 um, everything that was legally existing as of March 31st, 1996 is considered a 251 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:06,160 parent parcel. And the act says that based on the size 252 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:10,720 of your parent parcel, these are the number of divisions you get. It's based 253 00:18:07,919 --> 00:18:15,840 on acreage. And if you were to create a new private road or new public road, so 254 00:18:13,919 --> 00:18:22,320 there's no driveways going onto a new road or you retain 255 00:18:18,080 --> 00:18:27,039 uh 60% uh you get bonus divisions and etc etc. And then the law says after 10 256 00:18:24,559 --> 00:18:32,240 years any of those splits are eligible for redivision based on this size 257 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:37,280 metric. And that's it. That's what the law says. Well, 1996, I hate to tell 258 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:41,600 you, was like long time ago, 30 years ago. I know this because I graduated 259 00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:48,000 high school in 97. Like 30-y year reunion is coming up next year. So, um 260 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:51,120 the law never, you know, like we call it parent parcel, we call it child. Well, 261 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:54,400 it didn't count for grandchildren or great-grandchildren, which you'd be 262 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:59,600 getting into in a few years potentially based on the age of the act. Um, and 263 00:18:57,039 --> 00:19:04,480 what we came up with in what um, came out of a a request from downstate 264 00:19:01,679 --> 00:19:09,120 specifically was if your local community has an ordinance that says you can do 265 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:12,960 additional divisions, why do you need the act? Like, let the local communities 266 00:19:10,720 --> 00:19:15,760 decide how they're going to handle this. You know, they can they can grant 267 00:19:14,320 --> 00:19:22,000 additional divisions beyond what the state baseline is. Um, we haven't really 268 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:26,400 looked at any type of tweaks in our land division ordinance for, you know, ever 269 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:29,280 really since we adopted it. Uh, so I did a little clean up on that, but most 270 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:32,160 importantly, I included verbiage that would account for that new change in the 271 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:36,880 statute, which was given immediate effect when Senate Bill 23 was adopted 272 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:41,360 that allows us as a village to grant additional splits beyond what the land 273 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:47,039 division act allows. And um, I don't have the computer up tonight, but an 274 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:52,080 area where this is incredibly impactful uh, would be the the remaining 10 acres 275 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:56,640 on the wet matter state property essentially. So down at the south end of 276 00:19:54,320 --> 00:20:01,200 the lake we have Red Fox Court and we have Eagle View Drive. And originally uh 277 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:05,039 the Lead Better family was going to do a subdivision there called Indian Meadows. 278 00:20:03,679 --> 00:20:07,520 They couldn't get approval from the health department for the number of lots 279 00:20:06,559 --> 00:20:10,480 they were going to put in the subdivision 280 00:20:09,039 --> 00:20:14,640 um because it was sandwiched between South and Gulf Estates too. 281 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:20,320 » It was really the issue. Uh so they went and did divisions under the land 282 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:25,600 division act. Well part of that division process they left about 9.8 8 acres in 283 00:20:23,120 --> 00:20:32,880 roughly a square shape that Fronts on River Road. Now, under the the previous 284 00:20:29,760 --> 00:20:37,280 wording of the law, they've already used the parent parcel splits. 285 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:42,480 The child parcel, which would be that 10 acre, could be divided into two parcels. 286 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:48,080 I believe they have two 5acre parcels, >> right? And as the state was looking at 287 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:52,159 how do we create developable real estate for our housing shortage, this is one of 288 00:20:50,559 --> 00:20:56,799 the things we went to them and said, you need to make it easier for communities 289 00:20:53,679 --> 00:21:01,120 to be able to divide up land that is too small to go through the platting or the 290 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:04,640 site condo process into developable property. said, "Actually, that does 291 00:21:03,120 --> 00:21:09,520 make a lot of sense because right now the only options would be site condo or 292 00:21:07,039 --> 00:21:13,919 plat that 10 acres out and you're you're not going to get enough money out of 293 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:17,120 that to do that type of process." And you know, a plat's going to take a year 294 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:22,960 to go through. It's a cumbersome process. Um, so now what this proposed 295 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:30,799 ordinance change would do would say as long as the parcel meets our zoning for 296 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:36,400 the size of parcel size of the district, you can you can divide it out. And if 297 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:41,280 it's under an acre though, we require you to provide well and septic, you 298 00:21:38,799 --> 00:21:44,799 know, val verification from the health department. So, at the very least, we're 299 00:21:43,120 --> 00:21:49,760 going to be able to get 10 10 parcels out of that that one to allow, you know, 300 00:21:47,919 --> 00:21:54,640 future development there as opposed to two without having to do end road 301 00:21:53,360 --> 00:21:58,640 egress. >> Yeah. So, that was the other change in 302 00:21:56,159 --> 00:22:03,520 here. Um, when we did the clean up to the zoning ordinance last year, we wiped 303 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:06,880 the slate clean on private roads. You can't do this anymore and we're not 304 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:09,840 doing it, etc., etc. Well, we need to make the following changes in the land 305 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:15,039 division act changes because it was permissive to doing private roads right 306 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:17,600 now. So, >> bill. 307 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:20,880 » No, that that was our ordinance. >> Yeah. So, cleaning that up. So, there's 308 00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:25,039 consistency here with the zoning ordinance that you can't do a private 309 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:30,000 road anymore. >> Okay. 310 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:33,039 » As all ordinances, it has to be formally introduced by a member of the council 311 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:40,440 and a hearing set before you can take action on it. 312 00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:40,440 Okay, I'll introduce it. 313 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,679 It's a good idea. 314 00:22:57,280 --> 00:23:01,960 Okay. Council rules. 315 00:23:03,039 --> 00:23:07,919 We have to do this every couple years. Is that right, Tim? 316 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:10,080 » That's what your rules you guys adopted say. You need to review it every two 317 00:23:09,360 --> 00:23:15,559 years. >> Yeah. 318 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:15,559 » I don't know what to do. That's usually 319 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:25,520 » No, but I'm I think we did that because we were going through so much. This was 320 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:27,840 » I think he did it just so you look at it every two years. 321 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:33,720 » Yeah. You know, just like when you look at the chart every couple years, that 322 00:23:29,360 --> 00:23:33,720 kind of stuff, you know. Okay. 323 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,280 So, 324 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:55,280 you want to do this as a group or do you want to just have two people look at it 325 00:23:53,280 --> 00:24:01,280 from a committee and then report back to us? 326 00:23:57,679 --> 00:24:06,600 How do we want to do this folks? could do it as a group. 327 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,600 » I'm a biker 328 00:24:06,799 --> 00:24:15,039 » or you can do it. It'll take time. If we all went through the pack of it, we 329 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:20,720 already have. >> Yeah. 330 00:24:17,919 --> 00:24:25,039 » Okay. Let's um let's just make the motion the way they are. 331 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:29,919 » Okay. Did everybody get a chance to go through it all? 332 00:24:26,799 --> 00:24:34,240 » There any changes? Anybody that did not correct. 333 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:40,480 » Fine. Any corrections or additions or questions you have about it? 334 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:44,559 » All right. Motion made by Larayway to accept the uh 335 00:24:43,039 --> 00:24:49,440 village council rules >> without change. 336 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:54,799 » Without change or addition. Yep. Is there a second? 337 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:58,440 I'll second it. Seconded by Peavey. Any further discussion? 338 00:24:59,279 --> 00:25:04,320 Seeing none, let's have a roll call, please. 339 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:09,440 » Sure. Right. >> Yes. 340 00:25:05,120 --> 00:25:10,960 » Cheryl Shannon, yes. Sarah Baron, yes. >> Robert Lairway, 341 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:15,120 » yes. >> Dave Johnson, 342 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:18,880 » yes. 60 pass. >> Okay. Or five. 343 00:25:17,360 --> 00:25:21,919 » Yeah. I don't know why she didn't call me all night. 344 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:27,120 » She Did you forget to call Joe? >> I didn't call you. No, 345 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:30,440 » it's because you're not on this list. Pass 5. 346 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:42,080 » Supposed to be a home number. >> Okay. So, I'm sorry. 347 00:25:39,679 --> 00:25:43,600 » Okay. And you can say >> Joe. 348 00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:46,880 » Yes. >> Thank you, Joe. I'm writing your name in 349 00:25:45,279 --> 00:25:50,159 right here. >> Yeah. 350 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:55,360 » Okay. >> I grabbed the two in the front. 351 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:58,400 The ones that weren't in the >> Huh? 352 00:25:55,919 --> 00:26:00,720 » They were not in the binder, but in the pocket. 353 00:25:59,120 --> 00:26:04,640 » No, they were in the front in front of the tab 354 00:26:01,919 --> 00:26:10,159 » in the in the holes. Fine. So, I don't even like this one. 355 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:15,360 » Personal preference aside. >> Excuse me. I'm writing Joe on all the 356 00:26:11,679 --> 00:26:18,960 other spots here. Okay. I apologize. >> I kept looking thinking this is 357 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:24,240 » over and talk at the same time. 358 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:26,720 » All right. So now did I do it? >> Yeah, that was the only rule. I think we 359 00:26:25,919 --> 00:26:29,600 had >> Okay. 360 00:26:27,679 --> 00:26:33,679 » I'm sorry. >> Ice storm cleanup discussion, 361 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:38,799 Mr. Manager. >> Yeah. Um, 362 00:26:36,559 --> 00:26:47,279 you know, when we we do a storm cleanup like that, um, our focus is first 363 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:50,880 make sure every road is at least accessible for one lane or every 364 00:26:49,279 --> 00:26:57,279 property can get in and out, you know. So, like for example, during uh the 365 00:26:54,240 --> 00:27:01,440 overnight on that storm, we got called out from central dispatch to tandle 366 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:08,000 trees that were down completely blocking roads. So, one of them was on York 367 00:27:05,360 --> 00:27:11,600 Street down on the culdeac. That tree completely cut off that road. That was 368 00:27:09,679 --> 00:27:17,279 one that we had to open. There was one down on Dquessa between Harmon and 369 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:20,880 Riviera with a bunch of trees that were kind of sketchy as well. We just calling 370 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:25,840 that one off. you can drive around the block to get out at that point in time. 371 00:27:22,559 --> 00:27:31,919 So, um it it's, you know, safety first for our folks doing it. Um 372 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:36,400 there were some some on Granada, we had two that were super sketchy that we had 373 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:39,760 to clean out because that was not fun. The wind the next day, stuff still 374 00:27:38,159 --> 00:27:43,760 coming down, but the roads completely blocked. But when we do this, we're 375 00:27:42,159 --> 00:27:49,120 pushing stuff off to the shoulder, pushing it to the ditch, that kind of 376 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:54,640 stuff. And you know what this has done over time is create a lot of areas where 377 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:58,559 we've got just brush piled up around places. And I think it would be in our 378 00:27:57,360 --> 00:28:03,760 community's best interest from an aesthetics point, but also from a safety 379 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:09,039 standpoint to invest in a wood chipper that we could run at least 12in material 380 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:14,000 through to get rid of this stuff chipping blow back into the vacant lots 381 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:17,919 at that point in time. of, you know, because 382 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:21,200 if you think about it in in a, you know, a worst case scenario, which is one of 383 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:25,679 the things I tell you guys, you have to think about is we've put all this this 384 00:28:23,919 --> 00:28:30,159 wood by the side of our road in areas where there's a lot of trees. Well, what 385 00:28:27,120 --> 00:28:34,399 happens if we have a dry May and June and we're getting to July and someone 386 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:37,840 sets off a firework and now you've got all the dead underbrush on fire and now 387 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:40,640 you've got all this fuel that you piled up on the side of the road. To me, 388 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:43,279 that's that's a safety hazard for the community that we should address, 389 00:28:42,399 --> 00:28:47,120 » you know. >> Yeah. 390 00:28:43,679 --> 00:28:52,000 » Um, so looking at what is realistic in our price range, I think a used model 391 00:28:50,399 --> 00:28:56,399 would probably be something that would be very attainable without breaking our 392 00:28:53,919 --> 00:29:01,600 budget, doing any type of serious change to plans um that we may have. But then 393 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:05,840 we could also double up on this and use that to help manage the brush pile that 394 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:09,679 we currently have. Uh, we manage that primarily through burning it at this 395 00:29:07,200 --> 00:29:13,919 point in time. Uh we had a a pit that was left by Will Cox that we've filled 396 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:19,039 in over time and you know so we've got to we got to start mitigating that pile 397 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:23,600 down a little bit too. But um looking for your guys's feedback on this. Um 398 00:29:21,279 --> 00:29:28,000 Jerry and I also had a a talk and said you know we get a lot of bigger stuff 399 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:34,000 dropped off too. You know, it wouldn't be a bad idea to either get a, you know, 400 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:36,880 like a towah hide hydraulic log splitter that we could split that up and just 401 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:40,640 pile for people that want to take their own firewood, you know, nothing crazy. 402 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,200 Just >> break it up and pile it for them, 403 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:46,480 » you know, because it's going to be too big to run through the chipper at that 404 00:29:44,559 --> 00:29:48,720 point in time. So, >> but 405 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:52,720 » Well, once you get done splitting and chopping it off at my house, 406 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:56,399 » well, I mean, seriously, community firewood banks are a growing thing. 407 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:59,039 Like, we need to create a pile where you have that. We have people that go back 408 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:02,880 there now and do that. Like, hey, can I come cut up wood? But you can cut up and 409 00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:06,919 take as much wood as your soul wants. >> You can have the tree on my shed. 410 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:12,799 » Yeah. I think our community would definitely like having a free firewood 411 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:16,000 pile to agree. >> If we run a chipper, I've seen other 412 00:30:14,399 --> 00:30:20,080 communities that do the same thing and they just put it in the pile behind 413 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:22,159 their BBW and let people take it that want to use it for motor. 414 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:28,000 » Yeah, we do that too. We have a big pile. Come take all the chips you want. 415 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:32,799 » Free taken. Nice. >> I think the chipper is is an excellent 416 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:35,520 idea. Is there really that big a price difference between a used one and a new 417 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:43,159 one though? >> Yes, there is. Now, yeah, 418 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:43,159 Landmark sells refurbished. 419 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:49,840 » Yeah, I was thinking I, you know, could reach out to our local ones and say, 420 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:52,559 "Hey, this is our budget. We we realize there's probably nothing that you're 421 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:55,120 going to be able to to get us new in that range, but you have a demo or 422 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:59,760 something like we want to give you that option before we try and source one, you 423 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:02,559 know, >> um 424 00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:09,120 » just see what they tell us, you know. >> Yeah, I was I would suggest that, but um 425 00:31:06,399 --> 00:31:13,120 for a demo like a lot of like Morbark and Bandit, I know they do like 426 00:31:10,799 --> 00:31:17,520 prototypes and they'll let you like use it for free. So, like I was going to 427 00:31:15,919 --> 00:31:21,919 suggest renting like you can rent a chipper for 800 bucks a week. Like the 428 00:31:19,919 --> 00:31:27,279 problem with these things is like if you let it sit outside, you have hydraulic 429 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:31,279 hoses. You have a bunch of stuff. Like >> it's great year one, year two, year 430 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:34,960 three you go to get it out and now it needs this and then it needs this and 431 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:38,320 then it just turns in you and Jerry will be pulling your hair out like I hate 432 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:42,640 this wood chipper. Like it's a pain in the butt. Like I don't know if you just 433 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:45,600 like I don't know if we have a ice storm. You can get monthly rentals too. 434 00:31:44,799 --> 00:31:49,039 Like >> I don't know if we rent it for a month 435 00:31:47,039 --> 00:31:53,840 or two months or however long it would take. And they're just they're finicky 436 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:58,640 and like the hydraulic hoses and different stuff like if it's ours then 437 00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:05,080 it's your problem, you know. And if it's a rental, hey, your stuff's broke, you 438 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:05,080 know? They keep it running. 439 00:32:05,679 --> 00:32:09,840 » I've messed with chippers before. They they can be a pain in the butt 440 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:13,519 » and >> I don't know 441 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:18,159 » or the gas or diesel. >> Uh I've had both. 442 00:32:15,919 --> 00:32:22,559 » Um >> one over the other. 443 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:28,480 » I mean diesels are nicer. >> I think they're nicer. 444 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:33,760 » The diesels work well in cold weather. >> They start hard. Um 445 00:32:31,039 --> 00:32:38,159 » yeah, I I'd rather have a diesel. A lot of the gas ones, you know, if you put 446 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:41,440 ethanol fuel in it, dumps up carburetors and 447 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:45,919 » it's just hell. But >> just load that baby with rack fuel. 448 00:32:43,279 --> 00:32:50,399 » Yeah, absolutely. >> The only issue would be availability or 449 00:32:48,559 --> 00:32:56,559 would you we we just rent it for the next months when we could have an issue? 450 00:32:54,480 --> 00:33:03,279 » No, I think I think what Brent suggested is we we rent it out in the summer and 451 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:04,880 try and do the cleanup then and out of Whenever you want to do the cleanup, 452 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:08,320 just >> run it for that period of time. 453 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:11,679 » Okay. >> Like, yeah, the the 12in ones are nice. 454 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,320 I don't know if you have a do you have a thumb on the back of 455 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:17,200 » No, we do not. >> No, 456 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:20,080 » cuz I mean to feed >> cuz that that'll be hard to feed if you 457 00:33:18,799 --> 00:33:24,159 don't have to feed it. >> Yeah. Like if you want to feed anything 458 00:33:21,919 --> 00:33:29,360 bigger than 6 in. I mean, it's you need a esavator to load it to feed the 459 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:32,360 chipper on your grapple. >> Yeah. 460 00:33:34,399 --> 00:33:39,519 I don't know. It doesn't matter to me. It's just I don't know. Just those 461 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:43,120 things sitting around. I don't know. There's every time you go, "Yeah, I got 462 00:33:41,519 --> 00:33:47,360 this old wood chipper. It doesn't run. They're selling it for cheap and I think 463 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:51,760 it needs this. It needs that." And >> it'd be nice to see a price comparison. 464 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:54,720 If we can find a used one, it'd be nice to know what it costs versus renting 465 00:33:53,039 --> 00:33:57,840 because I mean, if it's $800 to rent one for a week 466 00:33:55,760 --> 00:34:04,240 » and we and we can buy one for three or 4,000. I mean, even 15 467 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:07,919 » 15,000 is the cost right there. >> Take a big versus rental is what I'm 468 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:11,359 saying. You know, I mean, if renting is an option, it'd be nice to see that 469 00:34:09,839 --> 00:34:15,760 before we, you know, we made a decision on what it would cost to rent it for. 470 00:34:13,599 --> 00:34:20,079 » I'm talking about like the knives and oil change and just your your general 471 00:34:17,679 --> 00:34:24,879 upkeep like owning one cost you money too where like renting. 472 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:29,200 » What do you rent them from? >> Uh, like rental resource has them in 473 00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:32,399 Claire. Um, if you wanted to go, you know, bigger, 474 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:37,040 I don't know. I'd probably only get a six inch, but 12 inches are great, but 475 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:40,480 you have to have an esavator to feed it really. But they're sweet. They'll hog a 476 00:34:39,359 --> 00:34:44,320 whole tree. >> Let's do this. Let's uh 477 00:34:42,399 --> 00:34:48,879 » or rent one. You can rent I think you we could probably get our hands on one from 478 00:34:45,679 --> 00:34:53,919 Bandit or Marbar direct and get like a a nicer one. And 479 00:34:52,399 --> 00:34:56,800 you might even be able to talk them into bringing like a tub grinder or one of 480 00:34:55,359 --> 00:34:59,440 their beasts and do the whole brush pile. 481 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:03,920 » Hey, come demo all this stuff and just get rid of our brush for us, please. 482 00:35:02,079 --> 00:35:05,839 » They do a lot of stuff like the community. 483 00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:10,560 » They have in the past. >> Yeah. Because that'd be I mean if you're 484 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:13,920 going to rent it, you know, you hook it to the John Deere and you go around like 485 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:21,040 down the shoulders and stuff. You're talking that's a lot of work. 486 00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:26,079 That's the tongue. get a crew, 487 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:28,320 bring in some temporary employees or something. 488 00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:31,920 » Volunteers, >> council members. 489 00:35:29,359 --> 00:35:34,640 » Yeah, >> I'd be driving down the show with my 490 00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:38,240 bul. >> We don't want to show up to the next 491 00:35:35,839 --> 00:35:43,960 council meeting like this. >> They don't want to do that. 492 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,960 » All I think of is Fargo. 493 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:51,800 » Do safety first. I'll give you a hat. shake hands with 494 00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,800 dangers. 495 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:59,599 » Well, let's do this. Let's let's let's um let's rent one for a while and see if 496 00:35:57,599 --> 00:36:03,040 we like it and how big it will. We can rent a 6in one maybe and a 12in one. 497 00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:07,200 Compare them. >> Oh, 12in ones are awesome. I mean, yeah, 498 00:36:05,359 --> 00:36:09,920 we're super sweet. >> But like you said, I don't know how we'd 499 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:16,640 get the stuff in there. Do you think the grapple will take a 12in line? Oh, yeah. 500 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:19,680 We moved a 18 inch oak tree off the road with that thing. Pinch it up and just 501 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:22,720 » It's really good. >> Yeah. 502 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:26,640 » It's hard to like So excavator you swing like this, right? So like you can grab a 503 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:30,000 tree over here and you just swing it into the esavator like with wheels and 504 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:34,400 like the grapple. >> Not saying it can't be done, but you 505 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:40,599 have to like once it grabs a hold of it, you got to let go at the right time. 506 00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,599 » Oh yeah. 507 00:36:42,240 --> 00:36:47,280 or like you know some of the bigger logs. I mean if you chunk them up or 508 00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:50,400 whatever I'll they're in the ditch I'll go get them. You know if it's too big 509 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:53,599 for the 6 in >> we'll burn it for bonfire literally in 510 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:58,400 the fireplace or whatever. >> No wouldn't be splitting the larger 511 00:36:55,359 --> 00:37:02,160 stuff for the wood. >> No burn ch 512 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:06,240 are you envisioning just being able to do that right at the roadside during 513 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:08,400 like we had this ice incident and you could have just 514 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:11,920 » No, I don't want to do it during the ice. I don't want to do it during 515 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:14,960 » No, but I mean in after the after spring, you know, as part of our spring 516 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:17,119 cleanup, we're going to go and chunk all that brush that's piled up along the 517 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,760 side of the road. >> Got it. 518 00:37:17,839 --> 00:37:25,680 » Which is ahead of the fire hazard time. So, okay, got it. That makes sense. 519 00:37:23,359 --> 00:37:29,680 » Because I don't know, you know, thinking about a little bit more. I mean, I like 520 00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:34,560 the idea of having one. I really do. >> But how often do we use it? That would 521 00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:38,240 be the thing. Well, we could use >> You'd find you'd find us use it a lot. 522 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:40,560 » You'd find uses for it. We had the same conversation about bought the back and 523 00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:44,680 we use that thing all the time. >> All the time. Yeah. 524 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,680 » Yeah. 525 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:53,359 » Okay. >> So, you're saying it has to be in a 526 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:58,400 heated enclosure to protect it? >> No. Yeah. I mean, hydraulic hoses go 527 00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:01,599 bad. Like the knives need changed. You know, it's going to need serviced once a 528 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,839 year. You know, whether you use it or not, you should probably change the oil. 529 00:38:03,119 --> 00:38:06,800 And there's just >> that that's what most of the buses go. I 530 00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:11,119 mean, honestly, it's >> Yeah. Yeah, but I mean just saying if we 531 00:38:08,240 --> 00:38:13,839 got a crew around and we had, you know, three, four guys feeding that thing, I 532 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:16,480 mean, you could pull it around with the tractor and guys could just start 533 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:20,480 throwing brush in it while you're going down the shoulders. And 534 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:25,760 » even if you rented it for a month, if it cost you, you know, 1,500 bucks. 535 00:38:24,079 --> 00:38:29,440 » Yeah. I think unless you're a business doing it all the time, I mean, they 536 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:33,280 break down because they're just it's hard work for like they're just 537 00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:36,000 shredded. >> You beat on them pretty good. 538 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:39,760 » Yeah. versus than a rental car. 539 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:46,000 » I think we still keep this in mind, but my idea would be I suggest would be less 540 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:49,520 rent. Find out how it works out, how much work it is. 541 00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:53,680 » It may or may not be worth it. Your back starts aching after two days of doing 542 00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:56,640 it. Then it may not be as >> you find you just want to 543 00:38:54,960 --> 00:39:01,359 » you just want to run. >> When uh when are you thinking to do 544 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:04,160 this? Like what was the timet? Obviously not now. It warms up a little bit. 545 00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:07,599 » Yeah. May, >> early spring. Yeah, a little bit. 546 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,480 » Like April, it's >> 50 60 degrees. 547 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:12,720 » Yeah. The nights are out. >> You're not sweating a bunch. Yeah. 548 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:17,079 » Okay. >> Well, we could do it before the 549 00:39:17,119 --> 00:39:25,839 big uh community yard sale. >> Sell the mulch. 550 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:31,200 » Good idea. >> Like the free sand pile. 551 00:39:27,839 --> 00:39:36,079 » But I do like the idea of I I I Yeah, I like the idea of having 552 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:39,680 like a splitter and a chipper you want to run or you want to buy the splitter. 553 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,839 » I think we buy the splitter. I think we should have a splitter. 554 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:46,320 » Buy the splitter. >> There's a lot of big wood in there that 555 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:49,440 people would take >> that you would take. 556 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:50,320 » Yeah. I mean, there's boat. >> Yeah. 557 00:39:49,599 --> 00:39:51,760 » Oh, really? >> Yeah. 558 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:55,280 » Oh, god. >> Yeah. 559 00:39:53,599 --> 00:40:00,480 » I filled up the back of his truck and it didn't even dent what was there. I was 560 00:39:57,280 --> 00:40:03,599 there putting in brush. >> He says, "That's okay to do this." Yeah, 561 00:40:02,240 --> 00:40:07,119 baby. Take whatever you want, man. >> Take all you want. 562 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:10,720 » We even had pumpkins where someone chucked their pumpkin guts out there and 563 00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:13,839 the next year there's a whole thing of pumpkins growing up. They're like, "Can 564 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:19,119 I get these pump?" Like, "Take them, man. I don't care if you're going to 565 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:20,960 sell out." Okay. Does that give you enough information, 566 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:27,680 Tim? >> Yes. Okay. 567 00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:34,480 Second uh time for public comment. Seeing none anything from the council. 568 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:43,040 » Um yeah, I have something. I talked to Tim about it last week or whatever. Um I 569 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:47,280 thought about it quite a bit and uh I'm probably not going to be running for 570 00:40:44,240 --> 00:40:53,200 reelection for the council and it's just for the fact of my kids are going to be 571 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:58,800 eight and six. I'm gonna enter into a really heavy sports period time in my 572 00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:03,040 life. Like and and most of our meetings are on Tuesdays. Like I'm still good 573 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:08,960 this summer, but next year it's going to be Tuesdays and Thursdays are just 574 00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:15,200 really popular game nights. So, um I told Tim that I wanted to get it 575 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:19,680 out and, you know, have ample time to recre somebody good. Um, I still wanted 576 00:41:17,839 --> 00:41:24,480 to be involved like in the lake judging thing and if if nobody runs for election 577 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:29,599 if the council wanted to appoint me on the board knowing my schedule, I'd be 578 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:35,200 cool with that, too. But I just wanted to say it with time, you know, well 579 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:41,599 before I don't want to keep it a secret. Um, and when my kids are done with it, 580 00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:46,319 you know, obviously I get back in, but just, you know, even my oldest isn't 581 00:41:44,720 --> 00:41:48,160 playing basketball, so if he did, the games right now would be Tuesday and 582 00:41:47,599 --> 00:41:50,640 Thursday, >> right? 583 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:55,920 » So, I wouldn't be here right now. And it's like just 584 00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:58,800 they're going to play basketball. It's just 585 00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:01,680 » No, you got you got about eight years you're going to be busy. 586 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:06,880 » I was going to say 10. >> I don't I I want to definitely stay 587 00:42:03,599 --> 00:42:10,079 involved. If I'm not um sitting here, I'll be sitting there. If I don't have 588 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:15,599 the ball game, I definitely come to the meetings and, you know, do whatever I 589 00:42:12,079 --> 00:42:20,079 could do. But um yeah, I mean, if anybody, you know, has someone in mind, 590 00:42:18,079 --> 00:42:25,400 it gets someone a chance they can start coming to the meetings and kind of get 591 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:25,400 their feet wet before the election. 592 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:32,079 » Okay. >> Well, thank you. 593 00:42:30,240 --> 00:42:38,960 » Thanks for the heads up. >> No, I'm sad. Yeah. It feels ter I mean I 594 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:41,440 don't like I'm not a quitter. It's like 595 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,079 you have to >> Yeah. Be realistic that situation. 596 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:49,359 » Yeah. >> Right. I mean I've dodged some bullets 597 00:42:47,119 --> 00:42:51,920 so far and but >> Yeah. I agree. 598 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:54,240 » We might even see it this summer. I don't know what night, you know, we're 599 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:59,839 going to be playing baseball. It was Monday, Wednesday last year, but you 600 00:42:56,720 --> 00:43:02,319 know, if it's Tuesday night, it's >> Yeah, 601 00:43:00,560 --> 00:43:09,280 » I understand. Been there, done that. 602 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:15,359 » Okay. Any further comments? Any announcements? Let's see. The safety 603 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:17,359 committee is meeting the 17th, 6 o'clock again. Or have you got time? 604 00:43:16,720 --> 00:43:24,560 » Mhm. >> Okay. 605 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:28,560 And our next council meeting is 17th. >> Same day. 606 00:43:26,720 --> 00:43:36,040 » Got it. >> I'm not too slow. Just a little bit. All 607 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:36,040 right. Any further anything further?