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Good afternoon, everyone. This Tuesday, September 15th, 2020, 16th meeting of the Lake of San Diego City Council is now called the order.

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Ms. Hawkins, would you please call the roll? Mayor Buck.

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Here. Councillors, one, Lynn.

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Here. verdict.

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Here.

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Corrigan.

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Here. Edmund's man.

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Ackon.

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Here.

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Emma Boop. Thank you.

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Thank you. And now everyone, would you please stand remove your hats and join us in the pledge?

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I pledge allegiance to the plague of the United States of America, and to the Republic

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for which this stands, one nation, under God, individual,

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with liberty and justice for all.

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First, we have a proclamation,

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Hispanic Heritage Month, which has celebrated September 15th

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through October 15th, is an opportunity

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to recognize the rich histories, cultures,

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and contributions of Hispanic and Latin communities.

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This year's theme is UNIDOS,

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Somosmos, or together, we are more.

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It celebrates the strength of our diversity

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and the ways it brings us together.

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Here in Lake US, we celebrate our Hispanic

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and Latino neighbors and invite everyone to learn, celebrate, and uplift their voices and contributions.

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You'll find these proclamations as well as all other city council proclamations on the city website.

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Next I'd like to invite for public services to please come forward.

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You'll be hearing from Cindy Rogers and John Oliveris about their return to excellence plan

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and the steps they're taking to improve service reliability for our residents.

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We're looking forward to hearing at this update and we appreciate you all taking the time to be here.

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Good afternoon.

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My name is Cindy Rogers and I'm your municipal relationship manager for Republic Services

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and then I'll let John and Steve introduce themselves.

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Good afternoon.

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My name is Steve Baker.

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I'm the operations manager for the hauling divisions and the coverage company that services

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like us.

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We go.

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Good afternoon.

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Mayor and council members.

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John Oliver, General Manager for Republic Services.

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Been with Republic Services since 2018.

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I mean, first four years, I was Steve's position.

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Then I got promoted to General Manager, up in Seattle, in 2022, and then in 2026, five months

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ago, today I came back here, and I'm a resident of Lake Oswego, living in the Ups

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and Stablerhood, and my step-daughter, starter freshman year, I Lake Oswego.

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So glad to be back.

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Good to have you here.

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Yeah.

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Our presentation in this afternoon, we will provide a brief overview of the services that we

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deliver for our Lake Usbie Go residents and businesses.

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We'll also address some staffing challenges

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that we've recently experienced, the actions

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that we have taken to address those challenges,

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and then ongoing efforts to continue to improve

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on service reliability.

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Before we move on to the next slide,

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I want to draw your attention to the two trucks

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that we intentionally chose for this slide.

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The larger of the trucks is our electric truck,

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and the smaller truck is our tight access truck.

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I think it's kind of a stark difference between the two different styles of trucks.

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We use that the small truck in areas where a normal size garbage truck will not fit because

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the roads are narrow, narrow, so think about Lake Front Road as an example.

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In 2025 we serviced 11,400, 11,846 residential customers.

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Each one of these customers is service by three separate tracks every week, totaling 35,000 stops every week.

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There's, of course, a trash truck, a yard debris truck, and you can also put your food waste in your yard debris as a reminder.

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A truck for your co-mingle recycling, which includes your glass bin.

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And then your glass bin, you can place your batteries in a Ziploc bag.

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and then motor oil in a labeled milk jug.

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We also offer additional services for residents

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including bulky waste pickup,

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for items that will not fit in your world cart

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and drop boxes for larger projects.

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We serviced 412 commercial customers in 2025

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and then commercial customers with dumpsters

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can receive trash service six days a week,

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40s a week for recycle and 40s a week for food waste.

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And the service level is based on the needs of the business.

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In 2025, we did 1,769 industrial halls, and the industrial halls are big drop boxes or compactors.

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We also do two bulky waste events every year, one in the spring and one in the fall,

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and these events are very, very popular.

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We had 186 vehicles at our spring event last year and we had over 500 vehicles in our fall event.

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Something new that we started last year was partnering with the mattress recycling council.

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So now the mattresses at those bulky waste events are collected separately and recycled instead of landfill.

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So as a reminder, like us we goes next bulky waste event is October 3rd at our transfer station in Wilsonville.

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Community involvement and support is important, important to our partnership with Lake

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Oswego.

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Most of our events are ones that we've done year over year.

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We do touch-a-trucks, birthday drive-by's, and Earth Day E-waste event, and the sustainability

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resource fair.

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We also provide in-kind donations for the Lake Run, the Rotary Lobster Feed, Lakewood Festival,

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the Inter Festival of Arts, Girl Scouts, Christmas Tree Recycling, Oswego Heritage Council,

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Car and Boat Show, and then the upcoming annual Pumpkin Toss, just to name a few.

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So, please feel free to reach out to me about any other opportunities where we can work with

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the city or any non-profits, especially if there are opportunities for us to volunteer our time.

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And I will hand it off to John and he'll talk about our return to excellence plan.

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Thank you.

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I wish that just said operational excellence and not a return to excellence.

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So why a return to excellence?

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Going back to 2018, when I started here, again, Steve has continued that trend,

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except for a slight hiccup here recently.

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Lake Oswego has always been ranked as one of the organizational leaders when it comes to our

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customer's zeal metrics, customers' zeal metrics,

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include service reliability, customer satisfaction,

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and on-time pickups.

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Unfortunately.

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And starting in March, continuing into April and May, we had some unforeseen staffing issues. So we were

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short-handed drivers and we struggled to meet our customer-seal standards that the lake

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us, we go residents, have been accustomed to and deserve. So giving, I started, gave Steve

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and the supervisors, the autonomy to staff appropriately, they decided that we needed to staff

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up to 26 drivers, twice a week we peak at 21 routes within Lake Oswiga, and that's just

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residential and commercial 21 routes. A couple of days we run 19, but we peak at 21.

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So they told me they want 26 drivers, and as of the middle of August we got to 26. So

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we're staffed appropriately where we need to be. This will allow us to easily cover scheduled

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vacation time, unforeseen sick days, bereavement days, FMLA days, and so forth, right? We got

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over staff by five on on those two big days so staffing is fixed which led to the big problem

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of some service issues. Other than staffing have been working with city staff and corporate

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communications department on how we can better enhance our communication with the residents.

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This primarily hinges on us having an accurate phone number for our customers.

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Any time that we are going to have a service delay due to staffing issues which that should be a

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the past, whether delays, holiday changes, because of the holidays, we'll send out a call

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last.

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And everyone should get a voice mail, automated message that tells them of the schedule

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change or the delay.

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So if we have the correct number, you all are getting that communication, but if we don't

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have a right number, everyone's out left in the dark.

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So we're still contemplating what we're going to do, whether send out postcards, put a flyer

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inside an insert inside your bill on how we're going to do that, but that will help us better

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communicate with the residents when we do that.

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Also, the last couple of months, we have increased the supervisors, managers, my self-presents,

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out in the community, doing audits.

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I've been out there lifting lids on the afternoons.

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I've been approached by a couple of residents, thinking that I was dumpster diving, but

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had to quickly show on my shirt with a republic on it, or my business card.

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Steve, as you can see, he's in a safety vest right now.

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I know he was visiting drivers before he came here and knowing Steve, he's probably going to go

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visit one or two on his way home this afternoon.

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Finally, we are not perfect. We have not

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performed specifically March through July to the standards that we think we should perform at.

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We are a very metrics and score card driven company referencing back to that earlier slide, right?

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We do a little bit less than 12,000 single-family homes a week, which, again, that's three

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times.

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They see three diverse garbage, recycle yard waste.

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So we have 36,000 attempts with just residents to impress how good we are at service.

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77 multi-family dwellings that get picked up multiple times a week, 412 commercial customers

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picked up multiple times a week, 101,700 industrial halls.

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So lots of opportunities to show you what we could do.

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I believe in the 2025 Annual Report, we disclose that we had 90 complaints, 45 of which were mispick up related.

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So that was for 2025.

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So that breaks down to around eight complaints a month for those being mispick up related.

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March through July, because of our staffing issues, that almost doubled in both categories.

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where we 25, we have 8 complaints a month,

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March through July, that was 11 per month,

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and then miss pickups were around 8.

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So miss pickups doubled.

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But return to excellence has was very evident

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and clear on the logists,

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where we only had three total complaints

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to of them being miss pickups.

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So back on track with staffing,

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have a lot of new drivers,

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they'll be a little bit of learning curve,

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but if August is an indication

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of the direction we're going forward.

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You guys will get back to having great service

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from Republic Services.

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That's all I had to share.

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I think as a team, that's all we had.

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I hope in any questions.

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Well, I want to thank you all for being here at John Steve, Cindy.

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Like I said, you guys enjoyed a long relationship

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with Republic, over the years we've had the opportunity

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to look at other providers, but we've always maintained

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a relationship with the Republic in large part

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because of the service that you provide.

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And I think we all understand that it's things always aren't going to flow perfectly, but it's always in the response that we, you know, measure the service of a company and we appreciate your responsiveness here to the concerns that we heard from residents about these miss pickups, and I think they were even more acutely felt because it is so unusual, many residents who've been here a long time, or used to this, you know, never happening, perhaps even in decades.

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So then when it starts happening and people start wondering what is, you know, what is going on because you've set the bar

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So hi, now as we appreciate your community here, but my colleagues all have a lot of questions. So we'll start with the council.

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Oh, did you have a question account?

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Well, you'll take it.

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Thank you.

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And what's going on and I think that is absolutely helpful to all of us.

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I have not experienced problems that some folks have had.

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I don't know why.

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Laurel Street must be the happy street, but I have heard from other citizens.

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So it is so lovely to be able to go back and report to them.

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And for them to hear you say that we're seeking excellence.

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So thank you.

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Thank you so much.

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I think I heard once that a good relationship has accountability, vulnerability and empathy.

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And what I heard you today exhibited all those three things.

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Similar to any other industry you've gone through your challenges now.

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and we've seen this from COVID forward that every industry has done this.

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I asked that you sit down and go, what's our lessons learned?

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And make sure that doesn't happen again.

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You don't have to share it with us here, but as an industry, I think you need to sit down and do that.

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If not already, so these 12 new drivers, what happened?

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Where could you have seen that happening and then pull the trigger on it?

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I think in the past when your team was here presenting, I've always said,

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your drivers are most professional kind and caring service that I've seen in my neighborhood.

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I try to run out there so I can away that.

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that professional and the services you provide.

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It's highly needed and people count on them. You like this Swiss clock that everybody expect to be on time and they count on it.

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So you have said they're very high standard and I'm glad to hear that you're trying to return back to excellence. Thank you.

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Thank you for those kind of words and I know Steve knows this. I would, in operations going back to my days at UPS, I am out in other companies.

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I've had three models, be properly staffed,

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always have good coffee in the morning for the drivers,

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and never screw up their pay.

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Yeah, you've come to the court again.

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Excuse me, Republican industries invited us out to visit

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in August, which I really appreciate.

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And I went, and I was glad that I went.

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What I learned was, they have pretty strong

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sustainability ethic, they operate trucks with natural gas and EVs. Now I can go by a truck

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and I can tell you what kind of truck it is. And so they are moving, they are moving to modern

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sustainability standards. It's a big business, but they are definitely heading that direction.

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They have company values that support opportunities for all. And I saw that when I was out there

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walking around, talking with the staff.

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They have people from everywhere, and they're working hard.

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They have high, they have a very high retention rate

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for employees, it's 91%.

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I think that's pretty good.

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I think one of the things they didn't say,

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but I think that I understood what FLA

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may has had an impact on their business as well.

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I know anybody who operates a business

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is experiencing that, and they are certainly certainly the same.

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So I had a great experience.

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I appreciate it, I appreciate it, and all the information

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share with me. And one of the things that we talked about, they asked me if I would bring it up,

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is tell us about what the cameras on your trucks do. Thank you.

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So, safety, they make sure that our drivers are doing what they're supposed to be doing. They have

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harsh breaking, or maybe they don't have their seatbelt on, or going too fast. All these different

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things, there's all kinds of alarms, systems that tell them, you know, they're too close

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to another vehicle in front of them, so a lot of it has to do a safety and is making sure

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that they're doing what they're supposed to do with the trucks, you know, and it's a $500,000

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truck out there.

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I want to make sure that they're driving it correctly and taking care of the community.

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Concern always with communities like ours is master balance.

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So, how much of your footage is shared, what can you tell us about that?

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So, we meet as far as with the driver or with others.

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The trash trucks might pick up just because they're everywhere.

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That could be conveyed to another, another party, aside from just from John perhaps.

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So, most of the cameras are in-capped facing, so picking up with the driver does.

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So we can share that information with the driver,

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knock-on wood.

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We haven't had any serious accidents or anything like that.

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But I'm sure the police could ask for in-cat footage for seat belt

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uses or distracted driving.

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The camera can pick up side view coming out of the side of their mirrors

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and stuff like that and so forth.

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But I'm not.

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I don't know.

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We switch companies who run the cameras for us

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like three years ago, and the main reason was,

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because the prior company we used,

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did not give us 100% authority to just have it be our own information.

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They were able to share it with others.

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So now this new company that we started using three years ago,

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it's our information, it can't be shared with anybody else,

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unless we okay it, which we don't.

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It's just really used for safety purposes.

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It has dramatically increased the safety of our drivers

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across the nation, specifically on it alerts them very loud if they're not wearing their

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seatbelt, alerts them very loud if they're not using their cell phone, and then again,

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it pings them if they're going over the speed limit or things them if they're doing harsh

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breaking.

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And then we get alerted and then we can look at the video and share that with them for training

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purposes.

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That's only in the cab.

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There's a couple of outward facing cameras as well, but that is more to where if there's a harsh break alert, or a

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It senses an accident, those cameras will turn on turn off a courier license plates. No, no, okay

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I think that's what it calms them. It's good question. It calms their window. Yeah, they're getting the numbers off of each little bin. That's what they're getting now

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I just want to thank you

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I expressed the same comments as my colleagues.

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One other thing that is not part of your presentation,

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but was part of the packet, who was the financial part.

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And I think something that I want to stress,

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Republic has been an exceptional partner

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with keeping costs in line

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and our rates very effective and efficient.

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And they've worked very hard at ensuring

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that we have the right staffing

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with balancing the right financials, and as many business owners that are on the council

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know, the extra costs with some of the legislative policies that we've had in Oregon.

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We even added it to the city where we have to hire two additional people to fire people

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to cover all the lead backs and everything else.

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And I'm not seeing good or bad.

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I'm just seeing it's a cost of any business.

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But when you look at the financials that we're in your packet,

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I think you've met your targets of getting the profitability

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that you need, as well as the money for capital expenditures

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and you continue to buy new or equipment like the propane

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in the electric, which is fabulous and so I've been on council for a long time and I've had

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the pleasure of having you with us many times and I just value the partnership and your attention

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to making sure that we're getting the biggest bang for our buck and I recognize my driver

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in the picture that I say in order to every Tuesday morning and we wave. So I want to tell you

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which one it is, but he's the second one from the left. But anyway, and just great staff,

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anytime, and they're very accommodating when cars get in the way and park, they get out,

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and they move cans, they do everything.

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So, exceptional service.

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Everyone gets a little burped every once in a while.

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So, I would say, don't worry about it.

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You've learned, you've done, you've reacted,

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and you continue to great,

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give us great service, so thank you for everything you do.

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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Councillor Boot.

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Thank you. But I thank you City Manager Protem because when the question was in front of us, you went your way, meet with them and talk. That's wonderful. I really appreciate it. But you know, I'm a businessperson. I have racial problems sometimes when teachers are sick,

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or stuff I'm obliged to be there and I don't know that you folks can go drive a track when

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someone is not here but the question I will ask in this is it because of labor-related problems

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because from March to July it's a long time for a problem to linger around and I don't feel okay

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is it because five months to serve a community like each community or whatever.

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Like I can't like me personally if I tell my parents I'm having stuff problem.

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It will be solved in five months, they I want to accept that and I did not have the

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I have a business account, I have a residential account, I never experienced and I also

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really appreciate the fact that you always send messages. I was in Europe and I was

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receiving the message on. I say, what is that? So that's good, but I think five

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month is a long time and my question is why it took that long to fit stuff. Is it a

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labor-related question like the union and I would love to know about that?

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So we kind of got surprised in early March with two retirements out of the blue.

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Then I think that was quickly followed up by two employees in March April,

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surprised in us that they were moving to the Midwest or East Coast.

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We had to terminate a couple of employees for some safety issues.

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And then we had two employees relocated here within Oregon, but two other companies.

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So I think that accounts for like eight people right there.

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It all happened right there in March or April.

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That's also no fault to Steve.

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But that's right when we had the transition

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of the other GM retiring and me starting.

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So there was really no eyes on it for like probably

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March to the middle of April.

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And then I started and Steve came to me

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and we were able to jump on staffing.

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So now when we hire somebody,

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to have them go through a background check.

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Interview with Steve Supervisors, Steve HR, me,

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we try to get through that four or five interviews as fast

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as we can.

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We demand them that the candidate

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come and ride with one of our drivers for at least a couple hours,

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so they see what they're getting into.

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Then we make them the offer

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and then it could take five to 10 days

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for a background check to come back to say the employees cleared,

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that we afford them, the opportunity to give their current employer a two-week notice.

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So the timing of it all starts to add up.

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So we were able to start hiring employees.

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If we hired an employee April 15th, it's probably May 15th until we see their first day on the job.

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And then there's a 25 business day training period that they will be out with what we call

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behind the wheel instructor driving.

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I think when Lynn, when we visited in front of your house, right?

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Patty was out there with Jess as she was training towards the end of her day.

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So, the whole onboarding period will be higher and new driver from the first interview

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until they can go do a route by themselves can be like 70 to 90 days.

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That's close to three months.

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I really understand, I do this and I'm not going to get people, but like for me five

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month is around. Yeah, so I think where we dropped the ball was there was really no no

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fall to Steve but there was no eyes on it, there was no general manager here for that month

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and a half time frame and we fell behind. Yeah and so should have been a lot. And you know that's

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what I want also be here that it's you know the fault is not our customers they need to be saved by

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reliable. You've always been to us until now, like we have that problem. Is there any remedy

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perhaps, you know, on farms, picking plants? Any remedy, you know, because that thing happened,

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what did we tell our customers who had missed pick up, who had some problems struggling?

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Because if you have trash in your home for some houses, having it one more day is a challenge, it's

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So what was the remedy to that?

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To the staffing?

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To the people who are impacted.

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Yeah.

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So we would get the customer call and say they had a mistake up.

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We would try to get to them within the next morning.

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We'd have what they call it.

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Go back and go back in the morning.

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Sleeve your card out and we'll get it in the morning.

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Instead of putting it out of six,

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just leave it there and we'll take care of it the very next morning and some people, you

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know, got credits, you know, but the thing we were running up against also being short

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staff, but the DOT hours. So we can only run 57 hours per DOT, so they would get right

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up on those hours and then we can't run anymore. So that was part of the issues with FMLA, DOT

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hours, not making excuses, but that's just the reality, but we would take care of the customers

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of us.

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Thank you very much.

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Councillor Minnes, that was a quick follow-up here.

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Yes.

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Thank you.

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At one point in time, it was discussed that we would be able to co-mingle our glass with our

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recycling.

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I'm assuming that we'll not be happening for whatever reason the logistics of it or the

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practicality of it. Is that true? Because that seems to take a lot of time.

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So, yeah, we have the glass fans. We want to keep those commodities separate.

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Okay. Yeah, it's a it's a single stream. We're trying to keep those separate as better

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or for us. And I can jump in just to add a little bit more. The reason that glass and here

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cannot be co-mingled in with your other plastics and paper is because the facilities, the

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or the material goes, they can't have the glass be comengled.

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So it's not really because of the recycling

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modernization act that just recently went into effect

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live last year.

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So what can be put in your comengle is

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through that piece of legislation is

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stated by that piece of legislation.

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I just wanted to clarify that.

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And could you explain to the cameras?

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Help.

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People who would arrange for a drive by birthday? Yes, yes, coming. Yeah, we can reach out to us, either through staff or to our customer service or, yeah, just if they have a little one that it's their birthday and they love the garbage truck, which they all do, they all seem to do. Our drivers love to go live there and they'll do a little garbage recycling, yard debris parade for them.

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we would usually reach out and chat with them for a while and give them a little bit

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if they get, yeah, so there's gotten more little question.

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So we can do quite a few of gives you a signal. Yes.

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Yes. Their fun for all of us.

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Yes. Thank you. Thank you.

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Thank you. Thanks, Santa.

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I just wanted to say thank you to the Republican for their professionals and

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I'm as Councillor Afgan noted just being a front letting us know what the problem is solving it

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and moving on. So thank you. That's that's true leadership. I really appreciate that.

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And I also just want to note Sarah Scyth, or Scythian really program manager in the back,

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manages this contract and has been doing a bang-up job. And so thank you Sarah for making this all happen

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as well as the tour. Thank you for that. Thank you, Linda. And if there's anything that we can do to help

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get the word out around people updating their contact information, the phone numbers, emails,

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I get a lot of email, thanks. I mean, we could definitely, I would think we could do that.

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Yeah, we could have that to do that. Yeah, it's key. We saw that everything with emergency alerts.

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I mean, it's great. We have all the tools to get the alerts out, but they do have to be,

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you do have to sign up for all these things. So, it's a good reminder. But again, thank you all very

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much for taking the time to be here. I appreciate it. I know we're going to be seeing you again soon.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Okay, next on the agenda, we have our 2026 Council goals update.

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We have Assistant City Manager, Megan Fallen.

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Joining us to give the update.

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Hi, Megan.

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Good afternoon.

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Good afternoon, Council.

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And Mayor, thank you for having me today to give you our third quarter of Council goals.

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It's hard to believe we're at that time in the year.

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Just seem like yesterday we were doing all of our council goals that

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And you'll see in the report in the packet that there's been progress made.

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Some of the goals and yet some of the goals will still continue as we head into the fall.

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I am here with members of the exact team and other staff that represent some of these initiatives.

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And so we're here to answer any questions that you may have.

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colleagues.

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I just open right up and here it is the table top exercise using AM modeling to determine how quickly wildfire.

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is likely to spread in natural areas, so if someone else would like to speak to that, I think

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it's important.

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But the three of us went yesterday to clock up a fire training and had quite an experience

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and discovered that the AI representation is the stuff that Nightmares is made up.

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I don't quite know how to say it, how impactful it is to realize what would happen if someone

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through a cigarette butt out in the wrong place in our city.

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And the other piece of that is the interaction between

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the how you have to fight a wildfire

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and how you fight a structure fire.

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So I would like to bring everybody's attention to that.

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And I think that I would encourage all of us to go out there

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and understand that.

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And then I'm hoping that will be something

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that will continue to work on in terms

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of raising public awareness.

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I'm sorry.

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00:34:00,050 --> 00:34:01,210
I needed to get that pitch in.

458
00:34:01,350 --> 00:34:02,850
It was quite an experience for us all.

459
00:34:02,890 --> 00:34:03,110
Thank you.

460
00:34:03,130 --> 00:34:03,930
I'm glad you all had the opportunity.

461
00:34:03,930 --> 00:34:04,370
Thank you.

462
00:34:04,370 --> 00:34:04,750
Thanks.

463
00:34:05,250 --> 00:34:06,550
Thank you.

464
00:34:06,670 --> 00:34:07,070
Questions?

465
00:34:07,870 --> 00:34:07,910
Okay.

466
00:34:08,130 --> 00:34:08,730
Thank you.

467
00:34:08,730 --> 00:34:10,490
Thank you very much.

468
00:34:13,420 --> 00:34:15,720
Folks, now it's the time on the agenda for public comments.

469
00:34:15,720 --> 00:34:18,780
And if you are here to provide public comment and not already done so, there's

470
00:34:18,780 --> 00:34:20,700
White slips like this on the back table.

471
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,140
If you please fill one out.

472
00:34:24,340 --> 00:34:25,640
But I have one person signed up.

473
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:27,320
Steve Dull, Steve.

474
00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:28,320
Come on forward.

475
00:34:28,340 --> 00:34:29,860
You have three minutes to give your comments.

476
00:34:41,110 --> 00:34:44,530
Good afternoon, Mayor Buck and members of the City Council.

477
00:34:44,830 --> 00:34:46,690
My name is Steve Dole.

478
00:34:47,630 --> 00:34:52,630
I am a lifelong Oregonian, and I've lived here in Lake Oswego for 53 years.

479
00:34:53,310 --> 00:34:59,090
As part of my testimony today, I'm submitting a packet of correspondence with the mayor city manager in council,

480
00:34:59,730 --> 00:35:04,410
regarding the anti-Semitic trope displayed on the Lake Oswego mark.

481
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be earlier this summer. I've also supplied you with newspaper stories about these issues.

482
00:35:11,870 --> 00:35:17,710
Let's be completely honest, if a local business used its marquee to explicitly single out

483
00:35:17,710 --> 00:35:22,630
and prod any other minority community in Lake Oswego, this council wouldn't be hiding

484
00:35:22,630 --> 00:35:28,010
behind boilerplate emails about the first amendment. You would be racing to a podium to

485
00:35:28,010 --> 00:35:39,930
The fact is the manager explicitly admitted he was targeting Jewish residents and you are choosing silence, a double standard the community sees right through and is unacceptable.

486
00:35:41,190 --> 00:35:57,150
This isn't a one-off mistake. It's part of a documented pattern. In 2016 it was an offensive concentration camp poster in our high school cafeteria. In 2021 it was an anti-Semitic flyers in our community.

487
00:35:57,150 --> 00:36:04,150
In our county, excuse me, and recently a community member's car was vandalized with swastikas.

488
00:36:04,690 --> 00:36:07,450
He'd hate does not happen in a vacuum.

489
00:36:08,270 --> 00:36:12,730
Merbuck, you wrote to me saying that issuing a council statement is too challenging

490
00:36:12,730 --> 00:36:16,590
because you might get trapped by competing demands from other groups.

491
00:36:17,170 --> 00:36:18,490
Let me clear up two things.

492
00:36:18,590 --> 00:36:21,930
First I am not asking for government censorship.

493
00:36:22,310 --> 00:36:24,710
The first amendment protects private speech,

494
00:36:24,710 --> 00:36:31,890
But it absolutely does not restrict this government body from using its own voice to condemn

495
00:36:31,890 --> 00:36:32,950
bigotry.

496
00:36:33,830 --> 00:36:39,250
Second, standing up against anti-Semitism on our main street is an a matter of political

497
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scheduling.

498
00:36:40,470 --> 00:36:46,670
It is about setting a basic standard for civic respect, hesitating to speak out, sets an

499
00:36:46,670 --> 00:36:51,930
administrative precedent, and is an abdication of elected responsibility.

500
00:36:51,930 --> 00:36:59,050
History shows the staying silent to avoid political complications caused way too much in the long run.

501
00:36:59,690 --> 00:37:05,290
To solve your problem of getting trapped by competing statements, I'm asking you to take three concrete actions.

502
00:37:06,350 --> 00:37:10,210
First, adopt a baseline condemnation policy.

503
00:37:10,730 --> 00:37:21,370
Establish a permanent standing rule that this city will officially condemn any public targeted rhetoric against any religious racial,

504
00:37:21,370 --> 00:37:28,450
or minority group, removing the need for a council debate every single time and incident occurs.

505
00:37:29,010 --> 00:37:29,970
Second, you'd like...

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00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:38,180
Public media channels use the city's official newsletter and press releases to explicitly state that anti-Semitic

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00:37:38,180 --> 00:37:47,400
tropes have no home on the streets of Lake Oswigel. Third, engage local community support. Partner with regional

508
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:55,560
organizations like the Jewish Federation Greater Portland and other organizations that represent minorities

509
00:37:55,560 --> 00:38:02,880
in our community to provide actual resources for local businesses on keeping messaging respectful.

510
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:10,900
Please schedule a public hearing on this. If you are not going to do this, please advise. In the

511
00:38:10,900 --> 00:38:19,620
movie, do the right thing, the mayor says, always do the right thing. I ask this council to stop

512
00:38:19,620 --> 00:38:25,700
reflecting and act these measures and simply do the right thing for the city of like us

513
00:38:25,700 --> 00:38:32,020
we go. It's citizens and it's minority citizens. Thank you. Thank you. I'm happy to take any questions

514
00:38:32,020 --> 00:38:38,040
and encourage you to do so about me and my background or my motivation. Thank you Steve. We appreciate

515
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:45,480
you being here. Thank you. There's no questions. Thank you very much. Next is Andrew Edwards.

516
00:38:57,930 --> 00:38:58,430
Hello,

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00:38:58,430 --> 00:39:07,950
it's citizen today in support of our Lake Hustwig-O Public Library and I have been a volunteer

518
00:39:07,950 --> 00:39:12,670
with the friends of Lake Hustwig-O Public Library for nine years and I am the current president

519
00:39:12,670 --> 00:39:19,910
and have been for two years. The friends of the Lake Hustwig-O Public Library assist the library

520
00:39:19,910 --> 00:39:26,530
as many of you know in fulfilling its mission through advocacy, funding, promotion, and volunteer

521
00:39:26,530 --> 00:39:34,610
support. The friends support more than 100 special programs every year at the library, which

522
00:39:34,610 --> 00:39:40,130
is beyond their regular budget, and we're proud to be a primary supporter of, like as we

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00:39:40,130 --> 00:39:46,450
will read, a multicultural events and other activities throughout the year. Through our work,

524
00:39:46,490 --> 00:39:52,250
the friends with the library we've seen firsthand, how much these opportunities mean to the people

525
00:39:52,250 --> 00:40:01,130
like us we get. We are currently engaged in our fall membership drive and I invite you to become

526
00:40:01,130 --> 00:40:07,090
members as well as our community. The community support allows the friends to continue funding programs,

527
00:40:07,210 --> 00:40:12,230
events and opportunities they expand access and enrich the library experience.

528
00:40:13,230 --> 00:40:19,730
One example is the summer library challenge for which the friends provided a free book for every

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00:40:19,730 --> 00:40:31,930
child who participated. This, I think, is amazing. 1,731 youth participated this summer.

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00:40:32,690 --> 00:40:41,270
All 11 school districts participated and even 565 adults participated. Collectively logging

531
00:40:41,270 --> 00:40:47,750
more than 1 million minutes of reading. I know you're calculating right now 60 into 1 million.

532
00:40:47,750 --> 00:40:49,590
We'll leave it at that.

533
00:40:50,050 --> 00:40:53,450
Stand presentations and they built a lifelong love of reading.

534
00:40:54,150 --> 00:40:59,390
We invite the community members as well as council to come and become members of the

535
00:40:59,390 --> 00:41:03,070
friends so we continue making these experiences possible.

536
00:41:04,110 --> 00:41:08,930
The Summer Library Challenge, however, also highlighted limitations of the current space.

537
00:41:09,610 --> 00:41:14,570
I know you are all too familiar with the limitations of the current library you've had

538
00:41:14,570 --> 00:41:22,550
regular studies, you know that more than $10 million in renovations in 2024 were estimated

539
00:41:22,550 --> 00:41:28,930
to make the library acceptable in all its uses.

540
00:41:29,950 --> 00:41:35,390
The library staff holds weekly programs in the park because space inside the library is too

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00:41:35,390 --> 00:41:38,210
limited, especially this past summer.

542
00:41:38,210 --> 00:41:45,090
At the end of this summer poor air quality and a high heat index meant the end of the

543
00:41:45,090 --> 00:41:50,610
summer party featuring Red Yarn, one of the region's most popular children's entertainers.

544
00:41:51,350 --> 00:41:52,930
So that was a little bit disappointing.

545
00:41:53,490 --> 00:41:58,670
They had to be moved inside the library where the staff move shelves, set up chairs, put

546
00:41:58,670 --> 00:42:02,970
down blankets for more than 171 people to see this program.

547
00:42:02,970 --> 00:42:10,650
So, imagine what the library could do if we could have more space and more access and parking.

548
00:42:10,850 --> 00:42:11,570
Thank you, Andrew.

549
00:42:11,930 --> 00:42:12,210
Thank you.

550
00:42:12,230 --> 00:42:12,550
Thank you.

551
00:42:12,670 --> 00:42:13,570
We appreciate you being here.

552
00:42:14,090 --> 00:42:19,370
And what is the baseline cost of membership to join the friends?

553
00:42:19,410 --> 00:42:21,770
Why I thought you'd never ask.

554
00:42:23,230 --> 00:42:26,160
It's $25 up to $10,000.

555
00:42:26,870 --> 00:42:28,270
So what should I put it down for?

556
00:42:28,870 --> 00:42:30,570
I'm already a member.

557
00:42:30,810 --> 00:42:31,350
Congratulations.

558
00:42:31,350 --> 00:42:32,710
I should call my colleagues.

559
00:42:33,030 --> 00:42:33,290
Yeah, I'm sure.

560
00:42:33,990 --> 00:42:36,070
Remember, we'll start calling it right now.

561
00:42:36,310 --> 00:42:36,950
Just do me that.

562
00:42:37,050 --> 00:42:38,790
That's not a library card thing.

563
00:42:39,810 --> 00:42:43,230
Library cards also provides you with free movies

564
00:42:43,230 --> 00:42:45,090
and free music and everything.

565
00:42:45,710 --> 00:42:50,150
But sir, you cannot be a leader of this community

566
00:42:50,150 --> 00:42:52,890
and come and say, I am just a citizen.

567
00:42:53,530 --> 00:42:56,110
So, well, I'd like to thank you for very much to that.

568
00:42:56,690 --> 00:42:57,470
Thank you for being here.

569
00:42:57,630 --> 00:42:59,510
Thank you, counselors, for your support.

570
00:43:00,010 --> 00:43:00,250
Appreciate it.

571
00:43:00,350 --> 00:43:00,810
Thank you.

572
00:43:04,940 --> 00:43:12,720
All right. Is there anyone else who would like to provide public comment? No. Okay. Now we are going to move on to the consent agenda.

573
00:43:13,340 --> 00:43:21,940
The consent agenda. Let's say we have a few things. A few things on the consent agenda. Three items. We have our meeting minutes from May 15th, May 28th.

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00:43:22,540 --> 00:43:33,840
Resolution 26-34 is adopting a tree retention deficit fee and a resolution 26-48. It proves Megan Failing is our city manager, a proton for the remainder of this month into the first of October there.

575
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,080
Is there a motion to adopt the consent agenda?

576
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,520
I move to adopt the consent agenda.

577
00:43:39,020 --> 00:43:39,500
That can.

578
00:43:39,700 --> 00:43:39,800
All right.

579
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:42,920
The motion is made by Councilor Corgan and seconded by Councilor Man, so although it's in

580
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,220
favor say aye, aye, any opposed?

581
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:45,680
Okay.

582
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:47,340
That motion passes at seven zero.

583
00:43:49,500 --> 00:43:55,640
On to Council Business, the first item on Council Business is consideration of Resolution 26-38.

584
00:43:55,940 --> 00:44:01,180
This is the approval of municipal grant awards that like to invite our Management and Program

585
00:44:01,180 --> 00:44:06,860
T.O. Romeras, to talk to us about the Unigrant Awards.

586
00:44:07,460 --> 00:44:07,980
Good afternoon.

587
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:08,660
Good afternoon, Council.

588
00:44:08,720 --> 00:44:10,500
It's good to be here with you all.

589
00:44:12,180 --> 00:44:13,240
My name is T.O. Romeras.

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00:44:13,300 --> 00:44:17,220
As we mentioned, I'm in management analyst in the city manager's office.

591
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,720
So to give you a quick overview of the 2026-2027

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00:44:23,140 --> 00:44:25,380
great applications that are subcommittee reviewed,

593
00:44:25,900 --> 00:44:29,340
thank you Councillor Afghan and Councillor Corgon for serving on that committee.

594
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:31,200
And reviewing 19 applications.

595
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:37,900
We had 62,000 total funding requests and council goals grants applications and 46,000

596
00:44:37,900 --> 00:44:39,580
and social services grant applications.

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00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:45,400
The recommendation from our municipal grant subcommittee is to award eight initiatives

598
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:52,740
in the council goals category, totaling 43,000, roughly in total awards and four initiatives

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00:44:52,740 --> 00:44:59,760
and social services, totaling roughly 27,000, with some remaining funds being available.

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00:45:00,900 --> 00:45:06,280
For this council to allocate in the future to different initiatives in remain flexible.

601
00:45:08,770 --> 00:45:17,770
These are the eight initiatives that were recommended to be funded. All these applications were recommended to be fully funded before there were requests amounts.

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00:45:18,410 --> 00:45:27,350
So this includes the Lake Forest Neighborhood Association for Emergency Preparedness, Evergreen Neighborhood Association, also for Emergency Preparedness, an emergency cash.

603
00:45:27,350 --> 00:45:37,130
The Asfigo Lake Watershed Council for doing emerald ash fort outreach that expands on the city's initiatives to also do EAB outreach.

604
00:45:37,850 --> 00:45:46,470
This kind of doubles down on those initiatives and goes a wider to reach out to more homeowners associations, businesses, to make sure that they know the effects on private property.

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00:45:47,490 --> 00:45:54,530
The Asian-American Student Union to expand their cultural education to additional holidays.

606
00:45:55,530 --> 00:46:01,930
Gifting gears, which expands safety gear and volunteer support at annual biking event.

607
00:46:03,130 --> 00:46:09,530
Lake US Fego Sustainability Network for feasibility of affordable clean energy district,

608
00:46:09,970 --> 00:46:13,890
and thermal energy network technology in the foot hills district.

609
00:46:14,390 --> 00:46:15,790
Sorry, some of these are mouthfuls.

610
00:46:15,790 --> 00:46:17,790
They're going to do really great work.

611
00:46:18,010 --> 00:46:34,090
Old Town Neighborhood Association for first aid in CPR and some more emergency preparedness related activities and the SVGO Heritage Council for some different design and weather resistant outdoor exhibits to transform their rose garden and make it more accessible for their history walk.

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00:46:34,990 --> 00:46:45,770
So this total is 43,450 initiatives and that is dollar amount and then moving on to the four initiatives that were not recommended to be funded.

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00:46:45,770 --> 00:46:53,670
For funding, some of the conversation that came out of the subcommittee was there are remaining funds left over, but

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To be good stewards of those funds if an application came in that did not meet a certain threshold

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00:46:58,630 --> 00:47:02,770
Which was determined by the committee to be about a 75% score on the application

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00:47:03,810 --> 00:47:06,730
Those applications should not be awarded and

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00:47:06,730 --> 00:47:09,850
Those applicants should come back in the next round for funding

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00:47:09,850 --> 00:47:14,830
ideally with a stronger application so that's the community knows where and how those

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00:47:14,830 --> 00:47:18,650
dollars will be used and that there is a great impact for Lagos we go with those

620
00:47:18,650 --> 00:47:26,030
initiatives. We give feedback to the applicants in different ways that are denied in

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00:47:26,030 --> 00:47:29,730
the last two cycles. Applicants have reached out often they reach out on their own

622
00:47:29,730 --> 00:47:33,230
just saying hey can we meet and get feedback to understand how to strengthen our

623
00:47:33,230 --> 00:47:37,110
application where we provide the scores for the different categories to them and

624
00:47:37,110 --> 00:47:41,990
expressed the comments that were made by the subcommittee on why they were not selected to be awarded.

625
00:47:42,970 --> 00:47:47,990
In addition, there's this note section on the far right that just breaks down what their score was.

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00:47:48,310 --> 00:47:53,290
Why they were not funded in the case of council goals because they were below that 75% threshold.

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00:47:54,090 --> 00:48:01,610
And then what categories were the strongest on their applications and then the categories that need improvement in the future.

628
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,320
Moving on to the funding recommendations for social services.

629
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:12,120
There were four organizations that the subcommittee recommended for funding.

630
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:19,780
One is the Twalton Food Pantry, which supports about 3,000 Lake US Legal Residence annually through shopping style Food Pantry.

631
00:48:20,500 --> 00:48:27,320
The Children's Center, which is trauma-informed medical assessments, follow-up care and therapy for Lake US Legal Children who have experienced maltreatment.

632
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:31,840
Clackmas Women's Services for Advocacy Safety, Shelter Counseling and Prevention Services for

633
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:36,600
Lake Las Vegas Survivors, and Children Effective by Violence, and Lake Las Figo, Monsters

634
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:40,780
Robotic, which just stem outreach, events, camps, and school programs for Lake Las

635
00:48:40,780 --> 00:48:42,700
Rico Elementary, and junior high school students.

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00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:46,460
There's total $27,000 in awards and funds for initiatives.

637
00:48:48,720 --> 00:48:52,600
And again, there were three organizations that were not recommended for funding by the subcommittee.

638
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:58,080
They were below a 70% threshold, so this is about a 5% difference from council goals.

639
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:03,040
One of the comments from the subcommittee was that one of the scoring criteria is how

640
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:08,120
this directly relates to a specific council goal, which doesn't necessarily fit.

641
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:13,860
So that was the threshold it was lower, and that would be taken to account as we make recommendations

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00:49:14,720 --> 00:49:18,380
to the scoring criteria in the future for different grant categories.

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And

644
00:49:21,490 --> 00:49:28,780
then as you may remember from March we talked about pursuing a sponsorship pathway and we're continuing to work on that.

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Some of the organizations have evolved from occurring, you know, into recurring funding relationships.

646
00:49:38,250 --> 00:49:46,470
And that not only is applicable on the council goal side, which has a rule that was established with the pivot of the council for the grant program.

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of three years of the same initiative being funded is no longer eligible to receive those grants.

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00:49:52,990 --> 00:49:59,450
But one of the recommendations from the subcommittee was also exploring bringing some of the social

649
00:49:59,450 --> 00:50:04,790
services grant content like recurring grant applications into a sponsorship pathway as well.

650
00:50:05,570 --> 00:50:11,570
This would ideally provide less hoops for them to jump through on an annual basis, potentially

651
00:50:11,570 --> 00:50:16,850
on a buy annual basis. They can apply to receive grant funds. It's one application over

652
00:50:16,850 --> 00:50:22,690
tiers versus two applications of one each year. The hub more certainty for funding. Those

653
00:50:22,690 --> 00:50:26,410
are just some things that we're looking into exploring and we'll come back with a recommendation

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for this council in winter to be adopted and approval to continue to move forward. One of the recommendations

655
00:50:33,850 --> 00:50:40,890
is also to reserve $10,000 for LO for love. This is the first initiative that is maturing out

656
00:50:40,890 --> 00:50:46,890
that three-year initiative from being funded under council goals, so our recommendation is to

657
00:50:46,890 --> 00:50:51,150
continue to fund them through this year as we figure out the sponsorship pathway and come

658
00:50:51,150 --> 00:50:55,170
back with you for a plan. That is the route that they'll go into, but just that this money is

659
00:50:55,170 --> 00:51:01,230
kind of set aside for them. And there is that plan for that. And then the consideration, as I mentioned

660
00:51:01,230 --> 00:51:10,870
on the social services side, is to bring the children's center and the children's center and

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00:51:11,530 --> 00:51:26,310
and provides them a more sustainable pathway forward, a strengthened partnership with the city to fund those partners that continuously score very high on the applications and less administrative work on their teams to continue to receive funding.

662
00:51:27,310 --> 00:51:34,170
So that is about the sponsorship pathway. The recommendation is to adopt the resolution before you and I'm happy to answer any questions that you'll have.

663
00:51:34,770 --> 00:51:37,630
Thank you very much, Theo, a great presentation.

664
00:51:39,150 --> 00:51:41,810
Can you give us a little reminder here, so we had,

665
00:51:41,970 --> 00:51:42,970
give me a little reminder.

666
00:51:44,070 --> 00:51:46,610
So we had this two-step process.

667
00:51:47,070 --> 00:51:48,910
Okay, we had like one set of grants,

668
00:51:49,110 --> 00:51:51,090
and then there was a second set of grant.

669
00:51:51,230 --> 00:51:53,890
And some of these, I think we,

670
00:51:54,190 --> 00:51:55,810
I mean, some of them have happened, right?

671
00:51:55,810 --> 00:51:57,710
Like, I think we gave somebody to L.S.

672
00:51:57,710 --> 00:51:59,690
and they had an event around the thermal.

673
00:52:00,630 --> 00:52:02,970
Was that the event funded by this?

674
00:52:02,970 --> 00:52:10,470
These are new applications and new initiatives, so it's not the same, yeah, but it was that event

675
00:52:12,830 --> 00:52:14,070
Okay, so I

676
00:52:15,210 --> 00:52:24,330
Oh, I see oh, so it's a different event. I see so these are different than ones we even know some of them might be similar different. We have not approved any of these.

677
00:52:24,770 --> 00:52:29,290
Yes, that's correct. Okay, is the process going forward this kind of like one stop

678
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:39,780
A process, allocation process for these community grants, or is it this two step? We give out some, and then we wait, and then there's another round of applications.

679
00:52:40,420 --> 00:52:51,380
Yeah, the feedback that we received from this council back in March was to only do one cycle per year, so that's the plan that we have moving forward unless this body decides to do otherwise, and then we can go do that.

680
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:58,420
But we only plan to come before you one time this year to do the allocations, and then the remaining funds will ideally be flexible.

681
00:52:58,420 --> 00:53:03,340
like last year in a number when we saw federal cuts to snap programs in this

682
00:53:03,340 --> 00:53:08,020
you wanted to allocate funding to local food pantries. I believe these funds would

683
00:53:08,020 --> 00:53:11,380
be flexible in those situations to respond to community needs.

684
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:17,160
Right. Okay, so the cadence of this we can expect that next fall we will not be

685
00:53:17,160 --> 00:53:21,860
hearing about these until then every year once a year in the fall.

686
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:23,760
Like a report back on the progress?

687
00:53:24,300 --> 00:53:26,300
No, no, no, no, on the next board. Yes.

688
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,200
Okay, and then reporting on the progress.

689
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:30,100
Yes.

690
00:53:30,100 --> 00:53:31,580
What do we hear on, do we?

691
00:53:31,580 --> 00:53:32,020
Yes.

692
00:53:32,220 --> 00:53:34,240
We will come back to you two for on the progress.

693
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,080
We're still getting the cadence worked out.

694
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:42,600
Ideally, we're coming to you at the beginning of each fiscal year to go through

695
00:53:42,600 --> 00:53:46,300
sponsorships and to go through the newest grant applications that were scored and

696
00:53:46,300 --> 00:53:49,100
recommended for approval for that fiscal year.

697
00:53:49,140 --> 00:53:53,140
I remember one of the comments that we took into consideration was we need to get the

698
00:53:53,140 --> 00:53:58,500
out the door as soon as possible at the beginning of the fiscal year and give them the entire fiscal year and

699
00:53:58,500 --> 00:54:02,380
flexibility into the next fiscal year, which we've worked out with the finance department.

700
00:54:03,660 --> 00:54:12,100
It's a lot easier if it's within the same biennium, but there's also those extensions that they're able to request on the front and other applications that they need,

701
00:54:12,100 --> 00:54:18,000
you know, 30 to 90 days after a fiscal year ends to continue to complete their initiative.

702
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:24,200
Okay, it's great. Thank you, and thank you and to you enter the committee who served on this committee.

703
00:54:24,420 --> 00:54:28,340
That's a court. Thank you both. Oh, and councilman.

704
00:54:28,940 --> 00:54:31,080
Oh, you served on the committee?

705
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:37,000
Well, we haven't gone to you yet.

706
00:54:39,240 --> 00:54:41,540
Okay, go ahead, councilman.

707
00:54:41,540 --> 00:54:43,440
Thank you so much.

708
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:44,880
All right.

709
00:54:44,900 --> 00:54:45,780
Go ahead, Councilman.

710
00:54:46,020 --> 00:54:46,680
Four years.

711
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:50,080
Thank you.

712
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:52,880
For all of the work that you did.

713
00:54:52,980 --> 00:54:54,940
Also, thank you to Councillors.

714
00:54:55,840 --> 00:54:56,800
Afghan and Corrigan.

715
00:54:57,280 --> 00:54:59,980
It is a lot of work.

716
00:55:00,940 --> 00:55:06,940
And your deep consideration for doing the right thing and going through it.

717
00:55:06,940 --> 00:55:13,120
I know you spent far more time than you thought you were probably going to spend on it. Also,

718
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:22,440
I want to thank the council who is here in 2025 who changed the program. It is so much

719
00:55:23,060 --> 00:55:30,500
better than it was before the way it set up. So thank you. I know our community greatly

720
00:55:30,500 --> 00:55:38,780
values, these grants, and I cannot thank you enough for all that you did. Thanks. Thanks,

721
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:40,520
Councillor Mance. Councillor Willard.

722
00:55:43,460 --> 00:55:46,720
Did I owe to what Councillor Mance said? I know it's a lot of work,

723
00:55:46,820 --> 00:55:52,580
because we've all served on the committee, and it's like choosing which child you want to support.

724
00:55:54,260 --> 00:55:58,760
We have a lot of wonderful requests. I guess I've got two questions.

725
00:56:00,200 --> 00:56:10,780
I don't get the, do we have a three-year policy, so how do we, like, allow for love, which

726
00:56:10,780 --> 00:56:17,140
I'm not saying to sport or not support, but if we have a three-year policy, so we're just

727
00:56:17,140 --> 00:56:21,640
going to let Ella look just kind of, go around that, is that kind of the idea?

728
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:25,440
This is a policy that I inherited when I came over to.

729
00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:33,240
It's a wonderful city, but yeah, the currently there is a three-year limit on the

730
00:56:33,240 --> 00:56:37,080
same initiative being funded for three years. So the initiative changes, but it's the same

731
00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:42,380
organization, or it's a different initiative, but the organization is supported by the city in

732
00:56:42,380 --> 00:56:49,780
other ways, and that's fine. But the intention for my understanding of why that role was put into place

733
00:56:49,780 --> 00:56:55,400
was because as an initiative's mature and grow, there would be a sponsorship pathway that would

734
00:56:55,400 --> 00:57:00,180
city-wide for these initiatives to go into so that the city can continue to

735
00:57:00,180 --> 00:57:04,660
partner with them, but then it pulls them out of the pool of new applicants that

736
00:57:04,660 --> 00:57:10,420
are applying each year. Okay, so then LL for love will get 10,000

737
00:57:10,420 --> 00:57:14,460
blood from a different source. Yeah, and that's going to be the sponsorship

738
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:18,380
program that we're going to pathway that we're going to develop is where is this

739
00:57:18,380 --> 00:57:22,220
money coming from? Some of the comments from the subcommittee members was that we

740
00:57:22,220 --> 00:57:25,340
should not be asking for the council for additional money. It should be coming

741
00:57:25,340 --> 00:57:28,720
from the same pot of grants that is already allocated each year.

742
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:32,940
So at what level does that need to, what pot of money does that need to be from the resources

743
00:57:32,940 --> 00:57:34,280
that we already have allocated.

744
00:57:35,140 --> 00:57:39,860
And as well, what is the review and application process look like for that sponsorship pathway?

745
00:57:40,660 --> 00:57:43,860
Obviously, we're not going to fund these initiatives in perpetuity, but what does that review process

746
00:57:43,860 --> 00:57:48,320
look like to where it's not a huge administrative lift on the organizations, but the city

747
00:57:50,990 --> 00:57:55,090
can remain confident that the initiatives that they're funding are true to the initiatives

748
00:57:55,090 --> 00:58:01,170
at the you know five years ago versus now that the initiative hasn't moved away from what how this if you want to be involved.

749
00:58:03,820 --> 00:58:05,100
Okay, I'm still confused.

750
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:09,740
So we're taking the money out of the same funds.

751
00:58:12,140 --> 00:58:16,620
Well, you have the money in the funds, but if we're going to get to policy, that's where I'm.

752
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:20,160
I just, it has more to do with future.

753
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:26,520
So future groups could go four or five, six years, is that correct?

754
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:32,180
Well, I think what we talked about, and I leave you one away, is we do need this policy

755
00:58:32,180 --> 00:58:35,980
to be into play, we do need this policy to be put into place, right?

756
00:58:38,590 --> 00:58:46,230
But there are funds remaining in this cycle, I believe, if we could do that, correct me?

757
00:58:47,010 --> 00:58:53,930
So, the idea from the three years came out of discussions about two years ago was that this money should be treated as an incubation.

758
00:58:54,630 --> 00:58:58,570
So, when community groups are saying, I have this idea, how do I start it?

759
00:58:58,590 --> 00:59:08,010
It's they're able to apply for the money, and once they have three years of successful track record, then they are then allowed to apply for a long-term sponsorship.

760
00:59:08,010 --> 00:59:16,070
At the idea is not long-term and indefinitely that will get money every year, but we get them in a cycle that it's probably a two to three year contract.

761
00:59:16,630 --> 00:59:21,810
That says, this is the money, here's the expectations, as opposed to them applying year after year.

762
00:59:22,550 --> 00:59:30,950
But the goal is that we're not necessarily finding every organization that's on the current grants for perpetuity for the rest of the time.

763
00:59:31,150 --> 00:59:32,810
So that's how that carve out would happen.

764
00:59:33,530 --> 00:59:34,050
Okay.

765
00:59:34,430 --> 00:59:35,650
Madison, can you introduce yourself?

766
00:59:36,770 --> 00:59:37,650
I'm Madison Thesing.

767
00:59:37,670 --> 00:59:38,890
I'm the deputy city manager.

768
00:59:39,270 --> 00:59:44,050
I've been working perfectly on the grants since the city manager's office took them over in now

769
00:59:45,070 --> 00:59:46,550
20, 24.

770
00:59:48,010 --> 00:59:48,030
Okay.

771
00:59:48,890 --> 00:59:49,130
Yes.

772
00:59:49,190 --> 00:59:49,670
Thank you.

773
00:59:50,190 --> 00:59:50,470
Okay.

774
00:59:53,230 --> 00:59:53,530
Okay.

775
00:59:55,170 --> 00:59:56,130
The other thing.

776
00:59:57,850 --> 00:59:59,970
And I think you guys are a great job of picking.

777
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:11,920
I have a concern with the workshop on feasibility of a clean energy district and thermal energy network for the foothills district.

778
01:00:12,480 --> 01:00:25,000
I think that's government and not really community. I think that's going for one of our projects that we should be funding that if we want to do that with

779
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:33,940
money. I really think this is sacred ground when we have community grants that are really towards

780
01:00:36,270 --> 01:00:43,460
giving people the resources to do a project or an event or so on that everybody gets into.

781
01:00:43,660 --> 01:00:50,360
I just have a problem with, especially $15,500, which is a substantial amount of the total.

782
01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:54,620
And it's not that I don't think the work should be done.

783
01:00:55,060 --> 01:00:58,880
I think this is in the wrong place for it to be paid for,

784
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:04,540
because I really feel that like anybody could take on an initiative of something

785
01:01:04,540 --> 01:01:09,540
that they, you know, the library group could come in and say we want to do a study on libraries

786
01:01:09,540 --> 01:01:10,960
and get a community grant.

787
01:01:11,660 --> 01:01:12,320
Does that make sense?

788
01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:21,240
I would like to have community service separate from what I would call a specific initiative

789
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:29,080
for a like us week of city government approved.

790
01:01:29,880 --> 01:01:31,600
So thinking about that?

791
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:31,740
Yeah.

792
01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:32,460
What's your thoughts?

793
01:01:32,460 --> 01:01:33,280
Your council coordinator.

794
01:01:33,700 --> 01:01:35,580
It is the largest one.

795
01:01:36,640 --> 01:01:37,100
Right.

796
01:01:37,100 --> 01:01:46,220
But yeah, I think the concept behind that is much like the, um, us, we owe like watershed

797
01:01:46,220 --> 01:01:50,560
council and educating people about the animal ash borer.

798
01:01:50,560 --> 01:01:57,120
I think what these, what the, uh, like us, we go sustainability network would like to do is educate

799
01:01:57,120 --> 01:02:04,200
people who are interested in the potential that exists in the foothills, um, development.

800
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:12,340
that. And what this is about is setting up, be like a giant heat pump, like the heat pump

801
01:02:12,340 --> 01:02:18,880
in your, the heat pump that you use at home using the temperature that's in the ground

802
01:02:18,880 --> 01:02:25,860
to do this in a more sustainable, modern, low-cost way. And it's not really, I don't know

803
01:02:25,860 --> 01:02:31,020
what this is going to look like as we go forward. Whether the city has the opportunity

804
01:02:31,020 --> 01:02:36,260
you go off track that far to help people understand what's possible. So I think that's what they are

805
01:02:36,260 --> 01:02:41,620
attempting to do here. There are some of us who went and listened to this a few months ago.

806
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:49,340
They had a lot of really experienced, educated people there who worked in funding these things.

807
01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:54,960
So it could be a real thing, but I'm not sure that the city on its own can go off track that

808
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:59,160
far to figure that out, but it matters to people in our community. They put their time in their effort

809
01:02:59,160 --> 01:03:01,800
and on it, which is why we felt it was worth funding.

810
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:03,040
I don't know, Councilor Afghan.

811
01:03:03,700 --> 01:03:05,480
Thank you, Councilor Corrigan.

812
01:03:06,020 --> 01:03:10,280
It was also the way they did their application

813
01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:13,840
that supports the Council goal

814
01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:17,180
with combating the climate change.

815
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:21,760
And what they wanted to do is bring people, consultants,

816
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:24,900
local residences together and see

817
01:03:24,900 --> 01:03:27,600
what are the opportunities that we can explore.

818
01:03:27,600 --> 01:03:37,380
I don't think the city does those kinds of things as opposed to the community wanting to do it, so it's a pole versus push.

819
01:03:38,160 --> 01:03:45,580
So it is a lot of money. We did have a lot of conversation about it, but that's why we're here to have those kind of conversations.

820
01:03:46,060 --> 01:03:53,200
If it's supported the council goals and they got a high score, we went that direction.

821
01:03:56,780 --> 01:04:03,380
Okay, yeah, no, we, I, that sounds, I, I'm gonna do three workshops for, on your 10.

822
01:04:04,320 --> 01:04:09,900
I'm just saying that that, we're, we're doing a lot of education and I just look at traditionally, I, I would say that,

823
01:04:10,660 --> 01:04:14,960
if you look back 20 years on all these grants, primarily it's to help,

824
01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:21,580
neighborhood associations. It's to help community groups. It's, you know, especially

825
01:04:21,580 --> 01:04:26,340
like earthquake supplies and whatever. I don't want these funds to necessarily be in

826
01:04:26,340 --> 01:04:37,000
this advocacy role of education per se for our, I think it's in the wrong column. That's

827
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:44,020
what, I think these are educational funds versus community impact funds. So, you know, because

828
01:04:44,020 --> 01:04:52,240
I could pick 10 different subjects that we're working on as a city council to use this grant

829
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:57,560
money to put a group together and hire a consultant and talk about things.

830
01:04:57,780 --> 01:05:06,140
That's all I'm saying is, and I just think that's my viewpoint of what these funds have

831
01:05:06,140 --> 01:05:15,200
traditionally been used for, to support culture, activities, events, and so on in the community

832
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:18,140
for the betterment of everyone versus educational.

833
01:05:19,140 --> 01:05:24,520
I think what you're referring to is the social, the other categories we have.

834
01:05:24,520 --> 01:05:27,740
These are supporting the city council goals.

835
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:33,380
And our goals, one of them is Black and White, combat climate change.

836
01:05:33,380 --> 01:05:48,380
So if we don't want to do that, then we should start from the beginning of the year and say we're not going to do this because this group have come forward supporting what we have said before.

837
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:57,380
Now you can you can say if this is so serious and the group want to do this and they're following our.

838
01:06:00,080 --> 01:06:09,540
Council goal, I'm scringing at the dollar amount and reduced the dollar amount, but this is black and white supporting this council goal.

839
01:06:10,260 --> 01:06:14,520
Right, but I think we also have a sustainability advisory committee that could probably do this for free.

840
01:06:15,180 --> 01:06:17,100
So anyway, that's just.

841
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:18,520
We'll put you on the committee next year.

842
01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:20,740
I'm just.

843
01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:21,640
Thank you.

844
01:06:21,840 --> 01:06:21,940
It's good.

845
01:06:21,940 --> 01:06:22,600
I get a voice.

846
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:23,580
Comments are well taken.

847
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:29,360
I will be supporting this, but I'm just I just think we have to be aware of that.

848
01:06:29,580 --> 01:06:32,720
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

849
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:44,420
I really talk, I think maybe the context, John, I talked to the lady who explained what is thermal energy.

850
01:06:44,420 --> 01:06:51,120
I really never heard it. I heard of it, but I never thought that there was that concept.

851
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:58,840
And she was saying that he could even give all, like, electricity to a new thing that we build there.

852
01:06:59,020 --> 01:07:07,160
But it's in the making. So I think it's the right place for the sustainability network if they could do it for us.

853
01:07:07,340 --> 01:07:12,580
It's great because probably if you were doing it as a city, it would cost more.

854
01:07:12,580 --> 01:07:29,980
And I was happy on your questions on funding some organization and like not following the three years I was when I first saw it I say why I mean because I'm glad you explained that it's organic and I

855
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:37,860
It would be like all those three organisations, you know, for love, I love, clerk, Muslim and services, they

856
01:07:37,860 --> 01:07:43,940
are doing wonderful work. And honestly, them, for example, they should always be part of what

857
01:07:43,940 --> 01:07:51,220
we they are serving, I know what they do every time. And killed on center, I mean, the only

858
01:07:51,220 --> 01:07:58,780
problem I have, why we didn't fund the Lake of Cigua Film Festival because we should have

859
01:07:58,780 --> 01:08:06,260
feel festively. And I know you have, you know, I really appreciate the work I've been

860
01:08:06,260 --> 01:08:14,640
in there with the mayor. It was the hard time when it was hard to give money because we didn't,

861
01:08:15,020 --> 01:08:22,220
there were a lot of politics or something behind. So thank you. And the only reason I'm talking

862
01:08:22,220 --> 01:08:30,040
is for Teo, I'm very giving you a cure app. It's the first time you come here. You're very proud

863
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:37,760
of the work you're doing in the city. So people should not Teo and thank you very much for

864
01:08:37,760 --> 01:08:44,020
you. Thank you, Councillor. Yeah, the second. Thank you. I may have been here a time or two before.

865
01:08:44,020 --> 01:08:44,620
Yeah.

866
01:08:46,160 --> 01:08:47,080
By the way, three.

867
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:47,740
Thank you.

868
01:08:47,740 --> 01:08:47,900
Thank you.

869
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:55,320
I also wanted to add that one of the conversations we had in the team was fiscal responsibility.

870
01:08:55,900 --> 01:09:03,480
So if we have long-term support for any organization, we cannot come back to the City Council

871
01:09:03,480 --> 01:09:05,100
and ask for money.

872
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:12,020
So we said we need to set good role models and stay within our budget, even though we'll

873
01:09:12,020 --> 01:09:14,560
coming forward with new recommendations.

874
01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:16,340
So staying within the budget.

875
01:09:17,100 --> 01:09:21,500
And second thing is, special thanks to Mr. Ramirez

876
01:09:21,500 --> 01:09:26,500
and Ms. Thasing because they had to do a lot of going back

877
01:09:26,500 --> 01:09:29,460
and forward to the applicants making sure

878
01:09:30,220 --> 01:09:35,220
that if the intent is good, but they're missing information

879
01:09:35,220 --> 01:09:42,510
and they're, we go back to them and not black and white

880
01:09:42,510 --> 01:09:45,790
reject them because their application wasn't perfect.

881
01:09:46,290 --> 01:09:47,850
So credit to you too.

882
01:09:47,990 --> 01:09:50,710
Thank you so much, especially Mr. Ramirez.

883
01:09:50,950 --> 01:09:53,470
Thank you so much for making those calls

884
01:09:53,470 --> 01:09:58,230
and making sure that we honor the intent of the process

885
01:09:58,230 --> 01:10:00,890
as opposed to managing the process.

886
01:10:01,230 --> 01:10:01,790
Thank you.

887
01:10:01,910 --> 01:10:02,590
Thank you.

888
01:10:03,090 --> 01:10:03,870
And thank you all.

889
01:10:04,150 --> 01:10:07,250
The, it's, it's, it's looking at these groups,

890
01:10:07,390 --> 01:10:08,810
you know, whether it's neighborhood associations,

891
01:10:08,810 --> 01:10:16,730
the ASU, LMSN, Heritage Council, I mean it's a great use of public money, leveraging just in the

892
01:10:16,730 --> 01:10:23,190
immense amount of community knowledge and volunteer time on the part of all these groups, and I think

893
01:10:23,190 --> 01:10:27,350
these are important dollar amounts that can help leverage the good work that they're doing,

894
01:10:27,650 --> 01:10:32,050
like you said, Councillor Afghanistan supporting the council goals that are broadly shared amongst

895
01:10:32,050 --> 01:10:37,110
many people in the community as well. So we appreciate these groups helping to continue moving

896
01:10:37,790 --> 01:10:42,170
And thank you all for your work to do the hard work of deciphering through all these applications.

897
01:10:43,050 --> 01:10:46,270
Have some of them like to make a motion to adopt resolution 26-38.

898
01:10:46,710 --> 01:10:49,110
Move to adopt resolution 26-38.

899
01:10:50,950 --> 01:10:51,350
Okay.

900
01:10:51,350 --> 01:10:54,030
Motion made by Councilveric and seconded by Councilwoman.

901
01:10:54,830 --> 01:10:55,630
Any further discussion?

902
01:10:56,650 --> 01:10:57,990
Okay. All those in favor say aye.

903
01:10:57,990 --> 01:10:58,330
Aye.

904
01:10:58,830 --> 01:10:59,390
Any opposed?

905
01:10:59,870 --> 01:11:01,110
Okay. Motion passed the 7-0.

906
01:11:01,630 --> 01:11:02,050
Make a deal.

907
01:11:02,150 --> 01:11:02,690
Don't you go?

908
01:11:03,030 --> 01:11:03,430
Don't?

909
01:11:03,550 --> 01:11:04,310
Thank you very much.

910
01:11:04,310 --> 01:11:04,930
Good evening.

911
01:11:05,570 --> 01:11:06,470
Oh, nice to see you.

912
01:11:06,470 --> 01:11:06,810
It's going to last.

913
01:11:07,690 --> 01:11:07,750
Awesome.

914
01:11:07,890 --> 01:11:09,670
I thought my card behind me.

915
01:11:09,690 --> 01:11:09,910
Right.

916
01:11:10,310 --> 01:11:10,670
I should.

917
01:11:12,130 --> 01:11:18,870
And next on the agenda, item 8.2, we are going Madison is going to talk to us about the League

918
01:11:18,870 --> 01:11:22,510
of Oregon Cities 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20, 20 legislative priorities.

919
01:11:23,190 --> 01:11:23,470
Yes.

920
01:11:23,630 --> 01:11:24,190
Thank you.

921
01:11:24,250 --> 01:11:28,690
I'm Madison Dasing, the Deputy City Manager, and I am here before you for the League

922
01:11:28,690 --> 01:11:31,730
of Oregon Cities legislative priorities.

923
01:11:31,730 --> 01:11:46,950
And so as we are gearing up for the long session in 2027, the League of Oregon City sends out a survey to every single city council to ask their feedback on the set priorities that they have as a running list.

924
01:11:47,870 --> 01:11:57,450
They form policy committees throughout the year through them summer and they begin by a starting list and then all cities have a vote to narrow that down.

925
01:11:57,450 --> 01:11:59,030
And then that is what the lead focuses.

926
01:11:59,530 --> 01:12:03,670
That's not to say that we can't focus on other areas or that we can expand on what they currently

927
01:12:03,670 --> 01:12:08,510
have listed, but that is at least the guiding force for the lead as they carry into the

928
01:12:08,510 --> 01:12:09,330
long session.

929
01:12:09,870 --> 01:12:15,030
These priorities also carry into the short session, so that's another thing to be mindful of.

930
01:12:15,030 --> 01:12:17,570
It does carry for those two years.

931
01:12:18,370 --> 01:12:23,830
What I provided in the Council report are top eight policies that I have narrowed down,

932
01:12:23,830 --> 01:12:28,450
but you are allowed and have the privilege and right to add

933
01:12:28,450 --> 01:12:31,490
or any that were not listed on that eight,

934
01:12:32,110 --> 01:12:34,390
and the goal is to narrow down to top five,

935
01:12:34,390 --> 01:12:37,110
and then I will submit our survey on more behalf.

936
01:12:37,430 --> 01:12:40,010
And so what I have listed down

937
01:12:40,010 --> 01:12:42,170
as what I identified as the top eight,

938
01:12:42,170 --> 01:12:44,990
which again, if you saw any that you would prefer to discuss

939
01:12:46,050 --> 01:12:49,750
or want to expand on, these were the top eight

940
01:12:49,750 --> 01:12:51,610
to at least get us started to then again,

941
01:12:51,690 --> 01:12:53,170
narrow down to the top five.

942
01:12:53,170 --> 01:12:57,890
The top eight identified based off of what I have seen not only as council priorities

943
01:12:57,890 --> 01:13:02,830
with the community and our organizations priorities are one right away authority continuing

944
01:13:02,830 --> 01:13:08,530
to preserve that including revenue sources to public meeting law clarity as you know in the

945
01:13:08,530 --> 01:13:13,510
last session that did not move forward all the way after a governor vetoed at the end.

946
01:13:13,850 --> 01:13:17,750
Number three is full funding and streamlining for housing production.

947
01:13:17,750 --> 01:13:25,730
As you know, we've had an extreme amount of volume of housing policies, but preparing with additional resources to do that.

948
01:13:25,770 --> 01:13:28,350
As we have found, we can have housing goals.

949
01:13:29,150 --> 01:13:36,490
And some of those goals are for affordable housing, but that's not necessarily what we're able to fund out of our general fund dollars.

950
01:13:37,290 --> 01:13:38,510
So they're the amount that they need.

951
01:13:38,710 --> 01:13:42,830
So that's identifying more capital funding from the state.

952
01:13:42,830 --> 01:13:49,130
And then streamlining some of the policies and processes that have been adopted in the last few years with all the mandate.

953
01:13:49,710 --> 01:13:59,610
So that's not only the ones from the governor's bill, but it's also the climate energy, some of those things from previous years, parking mandates, things like that.

954
01:13:59,890 --> 01:14:03,030
Number four is the energy grid hardening and marginalization.

955
01:14:03,450 --> 01:14:11,290
As we know, after the many storms we've been having, we have PGE as our largest provider, and his hit the hardest or natural disasters.

956
01:14:11,290 --> 01:14:15,750
and so that's not only hardening and modernizing, meaning maybe potentially that's

957
01:14:15,750 --> 01:14:22,130
undergrounding, but it's not bearing the full weight to our utility rate payers as well to do

958
01:14:22,130 --> 01:14:28,390
that work. Number five is a pretty long list of economic development in workforce development

959
01:14:28,390 --> 01:14:35,710
opportunities as a priority area. There has been a work group, workforce, workforce,

960
01:14:35,710 --> 01:14:41,610
workforce has been developing an economic plan that has been guided through the

961
01:14:41,610 --> 01:14:45,470
governor represented when has been on that as well and so we know there's

962
01:14:45,470 --> 01:14:50,250
going to be quite a bit of bills that are coming out of that work. Number six is the

963
01:14:50,250 --> 01:14:54,810
2027 transportation package as you know from the last few sessions it has not

964
01:14:54,810 --> 01:14:59,970
report and so I'm trying again for that. Number seven is the infrastructure fund.

965
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:09,240
So again, as we talk about housing, the backbone of housing is having adequate funding for infrastructure. So being able to connect to water, sewer, streets and all that.

966
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:17,000
Some of the most untapped areas of the state right now need significant infrastructure dollars and meaning billions of dollars.

967
01:15:17,780 --> 01:15:20,220
And so again, tying those two things together.

968
01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:28,220
And then lastly, number eight is the rate period assistant. So as we all have experienced the rate of doing business is getting more and more expensive.

969
01:15:28,220 --> 01:15:34,040
and so how do we provide programs at the state level that provide so really for some of our

970
01:15:34,740 --> 01:15:42,020
more low income families? So that is the starting place for eight. The goal would be to

971
01:15:42,020 --> 01:15:47,320
narrow down to top five. That's what the survey is asking for and then again if there's anything

972
01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:52,420
that I did not include in that list right now but you want to talk about you are more than welcome to

973
01:15:52,420 --> 01:15:57,500
add or subtract from that list too. This is just a way into the thank you message. This is just a way

974
01:15:57,500 --> 01:16:05,140
So that the League of Cities, collecting this information from all of the member cities to kind of further own their legislative agenda.

975
01:16:06,480 --> 01:16:06,960
Yep.

976
01:16:07,400 --> 01:16:08,280
All right.

977
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:09,020
We'll call these.

978
01:16:09,180 --> 01:16:09,540
What do you think?

979
01:16:09,700 --> 01:16:10,300
We have the last chair.

980
01:16:10,340 --> 01:16:11,000
Councillor Manns.

981
01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:14,020
Did you chime in there?

982
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:15,260
Question.

983
01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:21,940
I'm in reading through all of the other recommendations of the LLC.

984
01:16:21,940 --> 01:16:32,140
one stood out to me and that was the cybersecurity combined with, like I guess it's a hardening

985
01:16:32,140 --> 01:16:40,920
or cybersecurity. And I know that's not included. I do not know how relevant that is

986
01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:48,700
to our community. We do, however, have the infrastructure projects and I had talked to

987
01:16:48,700 --> 01:16:59,200
director of IT about that off the record off the cup. But in building the water treatment

988
01:16:59,200 --> 01:17:07,800
plant, that seems to me that that might be something that might be more interesting to us.

989
01:17:07,820 --> 01:17:13,900
I don't know if my colleagues agree on that. If that's something that we should elevate,

990
01:17:14,540 --> 01:17:21,760
I don't know what to swap out on this list because they're all vitally important,

991
01:17:26,690 --> 01:17:27,710
it's a difficult thing.

992
01:17:27,850 --> 01:17:35,590
But I was wondering what your thoughts were around that and what you brought back from L.O.C. meetings and your understanding.

993
01:17:36,830 --> 01:17:46,630
I don't have anything specific as from the L.O.C. at the end of the day, I think this is the reality of the,

994
01:17:46,630 --> 01:17:53,230
more of a threat or excuse me, we as an entity. We know organizations throughout the state have been

995
01:17:53,230 --> 01:18:01,030
target for ransomware. So I think that's just where we might want to be mindful of moving forward.

996
01:18:01,770 --> 01:18:06,550
And not only in the large-scale projects but even our data data data that we have including our

997
01:18:06,550 --> 01:18:11,850
our hate call out but utility billing and things like that and making sure that we as an organization

998
01:18:11,850 --> 01:18:15,270
in our protecting confidential private information as well.

999
01:18:15,430 --> 01:18:18,330
And we know that those data breaches are happening more and more.

1000
01:18:18,970 --> 01:18:21,150
So I don't have anything specific from the league.

1001
01:18:21,170 --> 01:18:23,070
That's that this is what the bill would look like.

1002
01:18:23,390 --> 01:18:26,250
But I think as more of this is happening,

1003
01:18:26,450 --> 01:18:28,070
and especially when you think about the league representing

1004
01:18:28,070 --> 01:18:30,730
small cities who are not necessarily equipped to handle

1005
01:18:30,730 --> 01:18:31,770
that themselves either.

1006
01:18:32,770 --> 01:18:38,810
And my second direct concern to that is what we've been learning recently

1007
01:18:38,810 --> 01:18:40,310
about AI.

1008
01:18:42,710 --> 01:18:48,010
I don't want to be an alarmist. I'm kind of neutral, like Switzerland. It's

1009
01:18:48,010 --> 01:18:50,410
this point in time because I don't have enough information.

1010
01:18:52,690 --> 01:18:56,770
But again, I see that as a rising

1011
01:18:58,630 --> 01:19:02,970
challenge particularly for our city and all

1012
01:19:02,970 --> 01:19:08,110
municipalities across Oregon. Thank you. Thank you.

1013
01:19:08,130 --> 01:19:10,030
Thank you. Councilor Corgan.

1014
01:19:12,930 --> 01:19:16,430
The one that jumped out at me was public meetings

1015
01:19:16,430 --> 01:19:22,230
law clarity. So yeah, I've discovered when you're working with

1016
01:19:22,230 --> 01:19:26,030
boards and commissions. Boy, those this applies to those

1017
01:19:26,030 --> 01:19:31,810
people who are kind enough and generous enough to donate their time to help us be a better city

1018
01:19:31,810 --> 01:19:37,110
and they are confused and worried about how they speak at these meetings and the things

1019
01:19:37,110 --> 01:19:41,670
that they do otherwise even tabling and all the other things that they're required to do and I think

1020
01:19:41,670 --> 01:19:46,290
that's uniquely unfair and the fact that this made it all the way to the governor's office makes

1021
01:19:46,290 --> 01:19:50,450
me think there's probably some pretty good agreement maybe they just need to put some more

1022
01:19:50,450 --> 01:19:55,670
time in on that and clarify but we need clarity. So I would I would escalate that one for that

1023
01:19:55,670 --> 01:20:01,670
Okay, so we have one I saw a lot of head nodding for that one. Okay, Mark that one down

1024
01:20:02,570 --> 01:20:06,910
Okay, public meetings. Lock clarity. Count some boot. Thank you, Councillor Gorgon.

1025
01:20:08,650 --> 01:20:11,970
You have all five and has to include that one. What are the other four?

1026
01:20:13,170 --> 01:20:16,770
Eliminating like the rate payer assistance. No

1027
01:20:16,770 --> 01:20:20,730
No, yeah, that's it's important, but

1028
01:20:20,730 --> 01:20:23,890
if we are taking five we need to take it out

1029
01:20:25,470 --> 01:20:31,930
And honestly, I'm not worried about public meeting law because the governor himself is

1030
01:20:31,930 --> 01:20:37,830
subjected to it, and I'm pretty sure he'll kill him, he'll kill him, he'll view on that.

1031
01:20:38,870 --> 01:20:43,390
So, it's important, but we should not put on it.

1032
01:20:43,550 --> 01:20:48,130
I think I'll take it out of the list, I'll take it out of the list.

1033
01:20:48,130 --> 01:20:50,970
and the

1034
01:20:52,750 --> 01:20:56,290
move the energy to your hardening and modernization.

1035
01:20:57,990 --> 01:21:00,830
So the rest is right, right of way,

1036
01:21:01,410 --> 01:21:03,590
that thing we shouldn't give it to the state.

1037
01:21:04,150 --> 01:21:06,170
It's not, it's a matter of,

1038
01:21:06,170 --> 01:21:07,770
our independence, our cities,

1039
01:21:08,130 --> 01:21:09,430
and our survival, even.

1040
01:21:10,470 --> 01:21:13,620
So, you got it.

1041
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:14,960
I got you my fire.

1042
01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:18,100
Did you, what were your five?

1043
01:21:21,180 --> 01:21:23,180
Okay, did you get the vibe?

1044
01:21:23,440 --> 01:21:23,980
Did you?

1045
01:21:24,140 --> 01:21:29,120
Yeah, hence, full funding, housing, economic development, transportation patches and infrastructure funding.

1046
01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:29,420
Okay.

1047
01:21:29,440 --> 01:21:30,420
You have four technically.

1048
01:21:30,680 --> 01:21:31,660
That was more complicated.

1049
01:21:32,280 --> 01:21:32,820
No, that's fine.

1050
01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:34,200
You could be public meeting laws.

1051
01:21:34,260 --> 01:21:35,840
Okay, then public meeting laws.

1052
01:21:36,480 --> 01:21:36,700
Yeah.

1053
01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:38,300
Okay.

1054
01:21:38,500 --> 01:21:38,980
Thank you.

1055
01:21:43,420 --> 01:21:44,980
I'm with Councillor Corgon.

1056
01:21:45,000 --> 01:21:48,240
I think number one for me is public meetings law clarity.

1057
01:21:50,460 --> 01:21:54,200
I think full funding and streamlined for housing production is number two.

1058
01:21:54,200 --> 01:22:04,360
for me, and basically maybe just pause for three years until we can get caught up, four

1059
01:22:04,360 --> 01:22:05,800
as the energy grid,

1060
01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:12,940
six as a transportation package, and seven as infrastructure funding.

1061
01:22:15,980 --> 01:22:17,900
I have those five two.

1062
01:22:18,580 --> 01:22:19,940
Okay, that's the key.

1063
01:22:20,420 --> 01:22:21,280
The rest you can do.

1064
01:22:21,420 --> 01:22:22,080
No, I'm just kidding.

1065
01:22:26,020 --> 01:22:26,320
Okay.

1066
01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:29,220
I think a little different, but almost consistent.

1067
01:22:31,280 --> 01:22:40,180
Really? Yes. When I look at what are we doing at this city council and minutesality, I look at

1068
01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:54,100
3, 4, 5, 6 and 7. So those are the type of things that we either must do or we're faced against it. And so

1069
01:22:54,100 --> 01:23:02,480
has in production, grid hardening, economic, and workforce development, transportation, and infrastructure funding.

1070
01:23:03,260 --> 01:23:06,520
So those are the ones that come priority in my head.

1071
01:23:07,880 --> 01:23:12,580
But I know what Councillor Corrigan and Councillor Wooden says.

1072
01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:19,960
If we don't clarify what how we're going to conduct business, all of this may fall apart,

1073
01:23:19,960 --> 01:23:23,140
because we don't have the ground rules clarified.

1074
01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:26,120
So I'm struggling, which one I'm going to drop

1075
01:23:26,120 --> 01:23:27,960
in order to pick that one?

1076
01:23:28,380 --> 01:23:32,280
Or how do I look at the residences

1077
01:23:32,280 --> 01:23:35,100
who cannot afford paying their utilities?

1078
01:23:35,780 --> 01:23:36,960
How do I look at them?

1079
01:23:37,300 --> 01:23:39,260
And it's a struggle for me right now.

1080
01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:41,920
I'm on the struggle bus going back and forth.

1081
01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:49,720
So I can see your points, but I'm struggling.

1082
01:23:49,960 --> 01:23:53,120
So I want two through eight.

1083
01:23:55,880 --> 01:23:56,240
That's seven.

1084
01:23:59,620 --> 01:24:00,640
Are you a leader?

1085
01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:02,720
Five.

1086
01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:08,440
If it's, you know, this legislative session can be very difficult

1087
01:24:08,440 --> 01:24:11,060
because the state is a hard press with the budget.

1088
01:24:11,160 --> 01:24:13,160
So this is not going to be kind of a spend.

1089
01:24:13,300 --> 01:24:17,540
I mean, they have got to figure out the transportation package

1090
01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:20,480
in a way that's going to be meaningful and something

1091
01:24:20,480 --> 01:24:23,740
that the residents are going or going to support.

1092
01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:26,000
And they're dealing with a lot of these cuts

1093
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:31,680
to healthcare social services that impact residents.

1094
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:34,660
So, you know, just thinking about what we're kind of always

1095
01:24:34,660 --> 01:24:37,400
left picking up the pieces in a way at the local level

1096
01:24:37,400 --> 01:24:39,080
and how we support residents on the margins

1097
01:24:39,600 --> 01:24:42,760
given those cuts that the state is facing.

1098
01:24:44,120 --> 01:24:47,740
I didn't see, I mean, there's also these preemption things

1099
01:24:47,740 --> 01:24:50,160
that keep getting into, again, like right out of the gate,

1100
01:24:50,160 --> 01:24:52,500
they're talking about, I think this is not the same thing

1101
01:24:52,500 --> 01:24:54,700
that we'd want to do here, but why is the state

1102
01:24:54,700 --> 01:24:57,460
wanting to just blanket print like the license plate

1103
01:24:57,460 --> 01:25:00,060
reader cameras and data centers?

1104
01:25:00,300 --> 01:25:02,080
It's like, leave that to the local communities.

1105
01:25:02,380 --> 01:25:03,660
You have the local communities in Oregon

1106
01:25:03,660 --> 01:25:06,340
who love having data centers now.

1107
01:25:06,420 --> 01:25:07,840
We don't even have a Costco here, right?

1108
01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:14,380
So let me ask you for us, but I just don't see why the state

1109
01:25:14,380 --> 01:25:16,680
continues to like, poke its nose into things.

1110
01:25:16,820 --> 01:25:17,980
It has enough to worry about.

1111
01:25:18,080 --> 01:25:19,420
It can't pass the transportation package

1112
01:25:19,420 --> 01:25:26,000
that it comes and gets it's nose into local government and tries to make local decisions for everyone.

1113
01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:30,240
So I really think as much as we can with the league, we're always pushing back on that,

1114
01:25:30,420 --> 01:25:34,260
but we definitely get just right out of the gate. I mean, here they are poking their nose into things.

1115
01:25:34,420 --> 01:25:38,100
They just just for political, because they know they're big topics and everyone's interested in them.

1116
01:25:38,220 --> 01:25:40,960
So like, well, we'll do something about that. So we don't need you to do something about that.

1117
01:25:41,020 --> 01:25:44,880
You know, let your county commission and let your city council go talk to those folks about it.

1118
01:25:45,700 --> 01:25:48,880
So, I mean, these are, I think, for me, these are

1119
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:51,820
a fine topics I agree with Councillor Woodland on the, you know,

1120
01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:55,180
the ones he picked, I think there's the broader challenges

1121
01:25:55,180 --> 01:25:56,080
we're seeing at the state.

1122
01:25:56,080 --> 01:25:59,160
I think we're going to have to continue watching for more housing,

1123
01:25:59,880 --> 01:26:04,640
you know, legislation coming through that will end up having to

1124
01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:08,780
implement while we are still implementing all these other pieces

1125
01:26:08,780 --> 01:26:10,060
of housing legislation.

1126
01:26:10,480 --> 01:26:13,440
I think encouraging the state of the money they do have, you know,

1127
01:26:13,440 --> 01:26:19,420
to start taking a more of a care approach and helping to fund infrastructure in communities

1128
01:26:19,420 --> 01:26:24,600
that are doing good work around housing that are streamlining their codes that are encouraging

1129
01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:26,780
production. I think would be good.

1130
01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:33,080
But I think they're just going to have to focus on some

1131
01:26:33,080 --> 01:26:37,500
of these big, we saw what happened in the last session. They just did not focus on the big

1132
01:26:37,500 --> 01:26:40,700
importance of the transportation package and then brought it up at the last minute.

1133
01:26:40,700 --> 01:26:42,140
They left it to the last week.

1134
01:26:42,140 --> 01:26:42,640
I'm crazy.

1135
01:26:42,740 --> 01:26:44,280
I mean, who is the number one issue?

1136
01:26:44,440 --> 01:26:45,380
There's number one issue.

1137
01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:48,180
And the public median saw clarity, you know,

1138
01:26:48,780 --> 01:26:51,560
as important, just for all of us volunteers,

1139
01:26:51,740 --> 01:26:53,040
we have to do our job, you know.

1140
01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:54,480
Oh, okay, yes, please.

1141
01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:56,760
Councilman's then Council burdening, get your shot.

1142
01:26:59,440 --> 01:27:00,500
How do they line up?

1143
01:27:00,500 --> 01:27:01,040
No, no, no.

1144
01:27:05,530 --> 01:27:08,910
Faster, that will be clarified.

1145
01:27:12,210 --> 01:27:13,090
Energy grid,

1146
01:27:13,090 --> 01:27:15,630
gardening and modernization,

1147
01:27:18,270 --> 01:27:18,970
infrastructure funding.

1148
01:27:19,650 --> 01:27:21,250
That's kind of a pie in the sky.

1149
01:27:21,610 --> 01:27:23,490
I know how that works.

1150
01:27:26,510 --> 01:27:31,810
My suggestion, my off-the-book suggestion on cybersecurity

1151
01:27:32,630 --> 01:27:35,270
and AI guard rails with hidden estate

1152
01:27:35,270 --> 01:27:39,050
if we're not getting them from the federal government.

1153
01:27:40,350 --> 01:27:41,590
Was that four?

1154
01:27:41,590 --> 01:27:47,690
Okay. And probably, finally,

1155
01:27:57,000 --> 01:28:04,280
it's really tough. It's really tough. And again, it's kind of

1156
01:28:04,280 --> 01:28:10,900
behind the sky, full funding and streamline for housing production. I just don't see the

1157
01:28:10,900 --> 01:28:15,640
funding art, but the housing production.

1158
01:28:16,940 --> 01:28:19,140
It's really lining, yes.

1159
01:28:19,300 --> 01:28:22,000
Those match for accounts of women, put it in.

1160
01:28:22,580 --> 01:28:23,620
They set for my.

1161
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:26,400
Yes, my offbook.

1162
01:28:26,720 --> 01:28:27,800
You're offbook.

1163
01:28:28,020 --> 01:28:28,220
Okay.

1164
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:28,920
Thank you.

1165
01:28:29,640 --> 01:28:30,500
Good luck.

1166
01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:33,200
Can we do the off-books next?

1167
01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:37,000
So I've been complete agreement with Councillor Corgon.

1168
01:28:37,180 --> 01:28:39,220
I think the public meetings law clarity.

1169
01:28:39,220 --> 01:28:42,760
It needs to happen and it needs to happen quickly.

1170
01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:51,280
I'm right along with the mayor and Councillor Wenland as well in terms of my top five.

1171
01:28:52,140 --> 01:28:59,820
And I just want to say I concur with Councillor Wenland that I think we just need a pause on any more changes for housing.

1172
01:29:01,640 --> 01:29:05,400
Let's see how things are going to play out and give our staff a break.

1173
01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:11,400
I also concur with the mayor in terms of get out of the weeds.

1174
01:29:11,620 --> 01:29:14,060
So I'd ask the state to get out of the weeds.

1175
01:29:14,440 --> 01:29:19,920
I think they're getting a little too deep into what I think cities can manage.

1176
01:29:20,640 --> 01:29:23,260
And I'm good with overall goals and objectives,

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01:29:23,440 --> 01:29:25,340
but let us figure out how to do it.

1178
01:29:25,480 --> 01:29:27,560
So anything that's kind of getting to in the weeds,

1179
01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:29,760
I definitely would like us to step up.

1180
01:29:30,240 --> 01:29:32,100
And finally, though it's not in top five,

1181
01:29:32,100 --> 01:29:36,060
I have to say I do concur with Councillor Mayans in terms of the cyber.

1182
01:29:36,580 --> 01:29:37,960
I think that is a bit grisk.

1183
01:29:38,720 --> 01:29:43,980
I think it's not discussed enough and the more we can do around that, but I'll stick with

1184
01:29:43,980 --> 01:29:51,160
my top five in alignment with Councillor Winland and the mayor, but that one is right up there

1185
01:29:51,160 --> 01:29:51,860
as well.

1186
01:29:52,800 --> 01:29:53,080
Thank you.

1187
01:29:53,080 --> 01:29:55,860
and vice versa, yeah, Councilor Corbyn.

1188
01:29:55,920 --> 01:29:58,040
Big surprise, I concur with Councilor Wind.

1189
01:29:58,160 --> 01:29:58,960
Okay, okay.

1190
01:29:59,380 --> 01:29:59,560
Okay.

1191
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:01,740
I really think that's the way to go.

1192
01:30:01,920 --> 01:30:02,960
Yeah, okay, it's good.

1193
01:30:03,060 --> 01:30:04,560
Was that just the week?

1194
01:30:05,000 --> 01:30:05,600
Yeah, this is right.

1195
01:30:05,800 --> 01:30:08,560
Yeah, no, I, anything works.

1196
01:30:08,720 --> 01:30:11,340
But what's the difference between three and seven?

1197
01:30:11,660 --> 01:30:14,480
I mean, four and seven because

1198
01:30:15,220 --> 01:30:17,960
hadning and modernizing the greed is,

1199
01:30:18,340 --> 01:30:20,280
That's a big, that's a different,

1200
01:30:20,420 --> 01:30:23,960
I mean, no, this infrastructure funding is,

1201
01:30:24,600 --> 01:30:26,600
but it's a water system.

1202
01:30:27,660 --> 01:30:29,680
Yeah, but that's infrastructure too.

1203
01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:35,900
in terms of it is yeah so that no I agree with you on and yeah okay but so

1204
01:30:35,900 --> 01:30:38,920
do we have we have the thank you cousin we do we have the five

1205
01:30:38,920 --> 01:30:43,480
yes yes transportation infrastructure energy grid housing production public meeting

1206
01:30:43,480 --> 01:30:48,440
yes okay everyone's great input yeah everyone's on board yes about that

1207
01:30:49,440 --> 01:30:54,720
and I've made note of the additional topics and we will incorporate that in our

1208
01:30:54,720 --> 01:30:59,820
legislative agenda. Okay, yes, again, this is just the league we can have our own

1209
01:30:59,820 --> 01:31:03,740
agenda. Okay, so, yes, and thank you very much. Appreciate you bringing this forward.

1210
01:31:03,860 --> 01:31:04,820
Thank you.

1211
01:31:07,150 --> 01:31:13,170
Okay. Next item of business is Arts Council of Lake Oswego annual public

1212
01:31:13,170 --> 01:31:17,990
art plan to call Nathan so glad to have so pleased to have you here. Thank you for taking

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01:31:17,990 --> 01:31:18,610
the time.

1214
01:31:27,490 --> 01:31:34,250
Thank you, Mayor and counselors. It's a pleasure to be with you today. As you

1215
01:31:34,250 --> 01:31:41,030
So in your packet, we have a annual work plan before you, which is a new thing.

1216
01:31:41,710 --> 01:31:48,350
It is something that we have not done before, but in regard to our master plan, which was

1217
01:31:48,350 --> 01:31:52,710
passed in 2024, that was one of the recommendations that we implemented.

1218
01:31:54,750 --> 01:31:56,950
So that is the what?

1219
01:31:56,950 --> 01:32:04,870
under section two of that new of the new public art guidelines, which went along with the public art master plan.

1220
01:32:05,470 --> 01:32:09,550
The mayor and city council are to review and approve by annual artwork plan.

1221
01:32:10,750 --> 01:32:23,050
So how this work plan is proposed this year as an annual one year plan, just to keep the alignment as to our budget,

1222
01:32:23,050 --> 01:32:30,050
the city's biennial budget as well as the contract between the city and ACLL.

1223
01:32:31,670 --> 01:32:37,770
And as we know, this is the first time that you've been asked to approve a work plan,

1224
01:32:37,870 --> 01:32:43,330
and it was intended to be developed after the approval of the contractual agreement

1225
01:32:43,330 --> 01:32:47,530
between the city and ACLL and that was just passed in June of 26.

1226
01:32:47,530 --> 01:33:05,410
So in your packet you have the work plan document and so what I'm going to do is just help illustrate some of those things that are in the work plan so you can see how that happens.

1227
01:33:06,350 --> 01:33:14,110
So, it will show our contractual commitments in service to Lake Oswego as well as other programs

1228
01:33:14,110 --> 01:33:20,810
that we do, which also serve the city, and help us to be thinking about identifying

1229
01:33:21,690 --> 01:33:27,570
prioritizing funding and implementing new public art projects to further enrich our life here

1230
01:33:27,570 --> 01:33:28,270
in Lake Oswego.

1231
01:33:29,210 --> 01:33:33,750
So one of those things is maintenance and conservation of the city's public art collection.

1232
01:33:33,750 --> 01:33:41,930
As you'll see here, we are currently, like, right this minute, working on the elephant on

1233
01:33:41,930 --> 01:33:43,010
BOOM's very road.

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01:33:43,770 --> 01:33:51,250
So we're mitigating some of the rust that has become prevalent on there, as well as taking

1235
01:33:51,250 --> 01:33:54,310
care of some biological growth and corrosion.

1236
01:33:55,230 --> 01:33:59,910
So that is happening as we speak, that will take place this week.

1237
01:33:59,910 --> 01:34:20,150
In addition, one of the pieces over at Glenmorey Park in the flow that plaque needs to be replaced which ends up being on the shorter basalt piece there, so that has weathered really needs to be replaced in whole, so we are doing that.

1238
01:34:21,290 --> 01:34:27,570
Also, acquisition of art on behalf of the city, also happening right now over at the library.

1239
01:34:28,070 --> 01:34:32,730
Echoes of Belonging by Sahara Diffries is being installed.

1240
01:34:33,570 --> 01:34:37,610
The panels went up today, and the rocks are already done.

1241
01:34:38,130 --> 01:34:44,270
And we look forward to the dedication of this on Saturday, which I know a couple of you will be joining us at.

1242
01:34:46,670 --> 01:34:52,450
D-ccessioning of art. We talked about this a little bit when we came to you with the contract.

1243
01:34:52,990 --> 01:35:01,350
Ferry Tree has a lot of different problems and so it has, it has gone through both a public art committee

1244
01:35:01,350 --> 01:35:11,030
as well as to you to recommend D-accession. And what you see there on the right is actually the first step in

1245
01:35:11,030 --> 01:35:25,070
documenting the piece, so that actually was the piece has been 3D scanned. So in a different kind of presentation you could see a super cool video, but now you just get to see a picture.

1246
01:35:25,930 --> 01:35:33,090
But a few weeks ago, early in the morning, before dawn, which we hear is the good time to do a 3D scan.

1247
01:35:33,870 --> 01:35:41,390
We, one of our staff members, met a contractor over there and they took a 3D scan of

1248
01:35:41,390 --> 01:35:42,010
very trees.

1249
01:35:42,090 --> 01:35:49,030
So we will be able to have that as a digital file to be able to put in the record, we

1250
01:35:49,030 --> 01:35:52,930
know what it looks like, we know how big it was, all of those things.

1251
01:35:53,350 --> 01:35:58,670
We could reproduce it in some way, shape, or form, but then that provides a historical

1252
01:35:58,670 --> 01:36:00,310
context for that piece.

1253
01:36:01,110 --> 01:36:08,110
Look forward to Christmas tree ornaments, that'll many Christmas tree ornaments, that's a very

1254
01:36:08,110 --> 01:36:08,530
tale.

1255
01:36:09,950 --> 01:36:13,650
So, I'm going to raise a huge, it's going to be huge.

1256
01:36:17,430 --> 01:36:23,230
So, also one of the things, as part of our contractual agreement, is an annual exhibition

1257
01:36:23,230 --> 01:36:24,970
about life in Lake Oswego.

1258
01:36:25,010 --> 01:36:30,690
So that is on view right now, it's called what we behold, and that's up through the 30th of

1259
01:36:30,690 --> 01:36:31,250
October.

1260
01:36:31,250 --> 01:36:36,130
It was curated by Kendra Roberts, who is the Director at Blackfish Gallery down in the Pearl.

1261
01:36:37,090 --> 01:36:39,710
So she, and she also is on the Public Art Committee.

1262
01:36:40,310 --> 01:36:44,970
So she did that for ACLL, which is a beautiful show.

1263
01:36:45,090 --> 01:36:45,950
You should come see it.

1264
01:36:46,010 --> 01:36:49,250
I don't know that I've seen any of you down there.

1265
01:36:49,510 --> 01:36:50,090
Just saying.

1266
01:36:51,590 --> 01:36:56,170
We're also working on our percent-for-art projects, including South Shore.

1267
01:36:56,170 --> 01:37:12,990
This is just some inspirational images that we have that we've shared with the fire department and so we are in the midst of putting together our selection committee for that so that's moving right along very exciting.

1268
01:37:14,010 --> 01:37:19,870
Also one of our percent for our projects that we're managing is over at receipt, so phase two.

1269
01:37:20,970 --> 01:37:28,630
We are at the point now where we are being, we are going to be soliciting submissions for artwork.

1270
01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:42,040
And that will happen here in the coming months, a selection committee decision we anticipate that in the fall, and the artwork would be installed in spring.

1271
01:37:43,140 --> 01:37:54,800
The area that we're looking at putting the, putting a potential mural is on the restroom building and a portion of the maintenance building.

1272
01:37:54,800 --> 01:38:02,920
We know that there's going to be some fencing and some other aspects where you won't be able to see a lot of that, but there is

1273
01:38:02,920 --> 01:38:10,810
We think a good combination of areas that will be visible to the general folks who are visiting the park.

1274
01:38:12,270 --> 01:38:21,930
Galler without walls. Of course, we have the eight new pieces that are installed and part of this year's cohorts.

1275
01:38:22,150 --> 01:38:36,210
So those are what you see here. And we will also be celebrating those at the cultural exchange on September 27th with dosent tours as well as the presentation for people's choice.

1276
01:38:36,210 --> 01:38:43,770
The next cohort that call opens shortly here, October 1st, and we start that process all over again.

1277
01:38:44,490 --> 01:38:50,390
So that will happen between the fall and then into spring and summer of next year.

1278
01:38:53,780 --> 01:38:58,840
The cultural exchange, as I mentioned, will be part of that.

1279
01:38:58,940 --> 01:39:02,920
On the 27th, these are some of our attendees from last year.

1280
01:39:02,920 --> 01:39:06,000
They were very excited about making paper bag puppets.

1281
01:39:06,680 --> 01:39:11,380
Grow grew, figured heavily in the characters.

1282
01:39:11,880 --> 01:39:13,180
So that was amazing.

1283
01:39:14,200 --> 01:39:16,420
We're going to have some other stuff for them to do this year.

1284
01:39:16,780 --> 01:39:19,500
And then, as I said, pup by Ben Die

1285
01:39:19,500 --> 01:39:22,220
is the 26 people's choice winner.

1286
01:39:22,440 --> 01:39:25,040
So that will be awarded to him at that time.

1287
01:39:27,130 --> 01:39:28,910
Here are some of the other things

1288
01:39:28,910 --> 01:39:33,930
that we do that are not specifically part of our contractual agreement

1289
01:39:33,930 --> 01:39:38,570
with the city, but still provide a lot of great things to the city.

1290
01:39:39,130 --> 01:39:46,610
So our 2026-27 exhibitions, again, what we behold, will be followed by our annual holiday

1291
01:39:46,610 --> 01:39:49,150
marketplace, which everyone loves and enjoys.

1292
01:39:49,870 --> 01:39:56,210
Art Mart will be happening over at Marylandhurst in January.

1293
01:39:57,390 --> 01:40:03,910
We did a AP student art show this year, and we will be repeating that in mid-February

1294
01:40:03,910 --> 01:40:11,670
And then our winter spring exhibition will be late February through April and then spring summer will be made June and July.

1295
01:40:14,270 --> 01:40:20,870
Some of the wonderful programs that go along with what we do as part of the APR show.

1296
01:40:21,250 --> 01:40:32,050
We had some great student work. It was really amazing to be able to see work from high school students that you just wouldn't believe that they were in high school.

1297
01:40:32,050 --> 01:40:40,430
it was pretty fun. We also do, of course, all kinds of dosa tours for both students as well as adults,

1298
01:40:40,770 --> 01:40:47,630
so this is a group from the International Learning Academy that came by and we got to take them

1299
01:40:47,630 --> 01:40:56,350
around to sculptures as well as see the exhibition inside. Also, we have programs that align with

1300
01:40:56,350 --> 01:41:04,350
exhibitions, so that includes things like Nikibana Demo, which happened in March, in conjunction

1301
01:41:04,350 --> 01:41:07,610
with our exhibition, Thinking Through Mud.

1302
01:41:10,550 --> 01:41:13,110
Public art and private developments, so we are working

1303
01:41:13,110 --> 01:41:21,470
both with Haseanda as well as habitat for humanity to place some sort of artwork or piece

1304
01:41:21,470 --> 01:41:23,530
at both of these locations.

1305
01:41:24,890 --> 01:41:31,770
So at Hasienda, it is located on the corner of Bune's very

1306
01:41:31,770 --> 01:41:33,570
and the cross street.

1307
01:41:34,030 --> 01:41:39,810
So that's mostly a public corner for the building.

1308
01:41:40,050 --> 01:41:43,690
That's where the community room is and other such things.

1309
01:41:44,050 --> 01:41:47,670
And so we're working with them on that as well

1310
01:41:47,670 --> 01:41:50,910
as helping them to formulate a process,

1311
01:41:50,910 --> 01:41:58,550
how that goes. In regard to habitat for humanity, we are looking at a some sort of artwork

1312
01:41:58,550 --> 01:42:04,850
that would be in the shared green space, which is both public and publicly accessible as well

1313
01:42:04,850 --> 01:42:10,650
as part of the development. So those are both really exciting things that are happening on

1314
01:42:10,650 --> 01:42:11,590
booths very.

1315
01:42:13,970 --> 01:42:18,510
Please pardon the spelling error, building connection between and with our community.

1316
01:42:18,510 --> 01:42:28,650
we have been working informally with the cities of Westland as well as Oregon City to be able to

1317
01:42:28,650 --> 01:42:36,510
highlight Highway 43 as an art corridor. So the PCC there on the left, Lotus Tower that is located on the

1318
01:42:36,510 --> 01:42:48,490
Marlhurst campus. So that is one of the pieces. There are some that have been identified in Oregon City at the end of

1319
01:42:48,490 --> 01:42:53,250
been some staffing changes in their parks and recreation department.

1320
01:42:53,330 --> 01:42:54,930
And that's who we were working with.

1321
01:42:55,350 --> 01:42:58,150
So that's we're on a temporary hold at this point.

1322
01:42:58,910 --> 01:43:01,430
But we expect that to pick back up.

1323
01:43:01,670 --> 01:43:04,490
Once that position has been filled.

1324
01:43:05,630 --> 01:43:09,810
In the mystery is the next piece you see there with the rainbow.

1325
01:43:10,290 --> 01:43:12,730
That is at the yellow middle school.

1326
01:43:13,070 --> 01:43:14,050
It's very fun.

1327
01:43:14,330 --> 01:43:17,110
It's right on the, it's right on country club.

1328
01:43:17,110 --> 01:43:23,750
and so it's really visible, it was a great way to work with the school district to be able to

1329
01:43:23,750 --> 01:43:29,630
cite pieces at the new, at the new schools. So we've been working on doing that for a long

1330
01:43:29,630 --> 01:43:35,470
time and it was great to see this come to fruition. Sponsorships of gallery thought was sculptures

1331
01:43:35,470 --> 01:43:43,250
so everyone from individuals to businesses sponsored the sculptures that come to town so we have

1332
01:43:43,250 --> 01:43:49,450
everyone from individual families to Edward Jones and Farmers Insurance.

1333
01:43:51,530 --> 01:43:55,670
Lastly, you'll see that we work pretty extensively with the Chamber.

1334
01:43:56,330 --> 01:44:01,650
Winewalk 2025 is just one of the items and ways that we work with them.

1335
01:44:01,770 --> 01:44:07,250
We hosted networking this past Friday and there were 90 some odd people who were able to

1336
01:44:07,250 --> 01:44:14,330
to come in and see what we do, see City Hall, and really know what art does in their community.

1337
01:44:16,370 --> 01:44:22,510
And volunteers, we've heard a lot about volunteers today. They are the, they're really the

1338
01:44:22,510 --> 01:44:29,570
engine that helps keep us going. We have guided tours that happen only because we have volunteer

1339
01:44:29,570 --> 01:44:37,070
dosence. We have conservation volunteers who assist with a number of different items and aspects

1340
01:44:37,070 --> 01:44:43,930
of taking care of the collection and then we had a terrific summer intern this year so she

1341
01:44:43,930 --> 01:44:50,090
helped us do quite a number of different things and was able to do anything and everything which

1342
01:44:50,090 --> 01:44:59,790
was terrific and then of course fundraising what we have to what we do throughout the year.

1343
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:08,480
Is funded partially by the city, but then also we raise money to support our programs and our staff.

1344
01:45:08,880 --> 01:45:13,940
And that includes fun things like holiday marketplace, again, coming up, are elevated our

1345
01:45:13,940 --> 01:45:21,040
action, which happens in the spring. And of course, art, which happens every January. Love art.

1346
01:45:23,010 --> 01:45:28,990
That is all that I have for you. So if you have any questions, I'd be happy to take them.

1347
01:45:29,450 --> 01:45:37,930
Thanks, Nicole. Great presentation. You guys are doing a lot of really good work. It's exciting to see all the different mediums, all the different programs we're running, all the outreach.

1348
01:45:38,310 --> 01:45:51,770
It's very cool getting the art installed at the New Housing in the Longwoods Ferry. It's very cool really help integrate those spaces into, you know, the rest of the community here. Yeah.

1349
01:45:52,350 --> 01:45:53,990
Colleagues Council verdict, please.

1350
01:45:57,470 --> 01:45:58,510
Oh, the other verdict.

1351
01:45:59,570 --> 01:46:01,130
I heard verdict.

1352
01:46:05,690 --> 01:46:10,370
I just wanted to thank the Arts Council for all the work that you do, because one

1353
01:46:10,370 --> 01:46:14,890
of the things that does stand out, flower baskets, and the artwork within our city.

1354
01:46:15,310 --> 01:46:16,410
And you do so much.

1355
01:46:16,410 --> 01:46:20,530
And I really appreciate the, um, since like you're doing a little more partnerships

1356
01:46:20,530 --> 01:46:25,590
with other members of the community, you've always done some, but especially with the school

1357
01:46:25,590 --> 01:46:32,190
and then all the way down 43. I think that's really exciting to see and I really appreciate that and I love the events

1358
01:46:32,850 --> 01:46:43,150
So I'm looking forward to the holiday market again, and you know gallery without walls is dear to my heart after serving on that committee for many years and it's just

1359
01:46:43,150 --> 01:46:49,350
Being able to go out and see the rotation of the art, so it keeps it exciting. It's always kind of moving is just fantastic

1360
01:46:49,350 --> 01:46:51,930
So thank you for all the work. Thank you

1361
01:46:53,150 --> 01:46:54,070
Councilor Man.

1362
01:46:59,570 --> 01:47:06,910
I echo what my colleague said and the growth of the Arts Council and our arts programs

1363
01:47:06,910 --> 01:47:13,510
and like us we go has been phenomenal and the fact that we're able to get art into

1364
01:47:13,510 --> 01:47:19,930
buildings that often in other municipalities don't have art is stunning to me.

1365
01:47:19,930 --> 01:47:28,810
just love that. The amount of volunteerism that happens in the art council, I don't think

1366
01:47:28,810 --> 01:47:34,570
people fully understand. I mean some of our colleagues who've worked in this understand,

1367
01:47:35,750 --> 01:47:36,930
but it's amazing.

1368
01:47:39,030 --> 01:47:48,170
They don't expect any grand gesture. They just want to see the art out there.

1369
01:47:48,170 --> 01:47:52,930
And on a personal note, I would like to, on air,

1370
01:47:53,070 --> 01:47:57,390
give a shout out to a student artist who you mentioned,

1371
01:47:58,130 --> 01:48:01,810
V.V. Pollock, who is a fabulous artist.

1372
01:48:02,250 --> 01:48:03,630
I have a couple of purposes.

1373
01:48:03,910 --> 01:48:05,750
In my house is a matter of fact.

1374
01:48:06,290 --> 01:48:11,370
She is now off to college studying fine art.

1375
01:48:12,010 --> 01:48:16,730
So our own lake as we go up and coming artists,

1376
01:48:16,730 --> 01:48:23,470
Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. Her work was pretty incredible. Her work is amazing. So, and her

1377
01:48:23,470 --> 01:48:29,330
family came to the opening, and it was really fun to say. I know. They are very supportive

1378
01:48:29,330 --> 01:48:37,730
of her art, which is a fabulous thing to see. Thank you for all you do. Thank you.

1379
01:48:37,850 --> 01:48:39,470
Thanks, Councilor Manson. Councillor Cork.

1380
01:48:41,600 --> 01:48:44,240
Yeah. Thank you for everything. You do. I think you

1381
01:48:44,240 --> 01:48:47,540
You help us express to the rest of the world who we are.

1382
01:48:47,860 --> 01:48:50,060
And I think the only thing that I would add to what

1383
01:48:50,060 --> 01:48:51,780
my colleagues have said is, you guys delivered

1384
01:48:51,780 --> 01:48:53,180
an amazing bang for the buck.

1385
01:48:53,320 --> 01:48:55,600
Thank you very much, and thank you for all of all,

1386
01:48:55,600 --> 01:48:59,580
and all of all, and to your interest that you get.

1387
01:48:59,800 --> 01:49:00,500
Do a great job.

1388
01:49:01,740 --> 01:49:02,300
Thank you.

1389
01:49:02,400 --> 01:49:03,040
Thank you.

1390
01:49:03,080 --> 01:49:03,720
Councilor Boot?

1391
01:49:03,820 --> 01:49:04,180
Yeah.

1392
01:49:04,620 --> 01:49:06,820
I've been very proud of you.

1393
01:49:07,700 --> 01:49:10,040
I've been introduced to galleries out

1394
01:49:10,040 --> 01:49:18,020
all by the vessels who are my dear friends and ever since our school every year, every

1395
01:49:18,020 --> 01:49:24,600
single year, our school tour, the colors are all like elementary school because we know

1396
01:49:24,600 --> 01:49:33,580
that art is an untidestiny. It's what gives forms and shapes their styles and you are giving

1397
01:49:33,580 --> 01:49:37,420
because you go, it's style by putting all this art everywhere.

1398
01:49:38,140 --> 01:49:39,600
It's really amazing.

1399
01:49:40,800 --> 01:49:44,360
If there is any program I want to fund, it's that one,

1400
01:49:44,820 --> 01:49:47,400
because it's what make us human and, you know,

1401
01:49:48,620 --> 01:49:49,620
it's a, and Saturday,

1402
01:49:50,160 --> 01:49:52,100
we'll see great things happening also,

1403
01:49:52,100 --> 01:49:53,620
and I'm glad,

1404
01:49:54,340 --> 01:49:56,300
Councillor Corrigan and I will there,

1405
01:49:56,540 --> 01:49:58,820
and we will make the decision on that,

1406
01:49:59,440 --> 01:50:01,260
and thank you for your work.

1407
01:50:01,840 --> 01:50:02,820
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

1408
01:50:02,820 --> 01:50:05,060
Yeah, that's right. Thank you, thank you.

1409
01:50:05,060 --> 01:50:13,440
Peter, what the other chancellor said, but I want to especially thank the council or council

1410
01:50:13,440 --> 01:50:21,660
for including art pieces at Haseyenda and the habitat for humanity.

1411
01:50:22,700 --> 01:50:31,240
This is an act of inclusiveness and welcoming those who are going to come to our city.

1412
01:50:31,240 --> 01:50:38,920
so job well done whoever came up with that strategy they need to be thanked. Thank you.

1413
01:50:40,400 --> 01:50:41,960
That's a really good.

1414
01:50:42,180 --> 01:50:45,640
Dido, but I think we need to highlight one thing that you forgot.

1415
01:50:46,820 --> 01:50:52,000
And this is extensive and we are at it's everywhere, but this group does an exceptional job

1416
01:50:52,000 --> 01:50:58,200
of maintaining our art collection, which I think they don't get enough credit for that because

1417
01:50:58,200 --> 01:51:05,720
gallery without walls is exposed to the environment 12 months out of the year and there's a group

1418
01:51:05,720 --> 01:51:13,460
of volunteers and we have expertise on the Arts Council and making sure that we're taking care

1419
01:51:13,460 --> 01:51:19,260
of everything that we have out there and so kudos to you guys. I mean you should really have that

1420
01:51:19,260 --> 01:51:26,220
as part of your presentation because that's a huge effort to manage an art collection as big of

1421
01:51:26,220 --> 01:51:32,800
as ours. And Nicole, you do a fabulous job on making sure everything is, you know, every

1422
01:51:32,800 --> 01:51:37,760
piece by name, you know, when it was done, you know, I mean, it's like the encyclopedia

1423
01:51:37,760 --> 01:51:42,920
of art for like us, we go, it's sitting right there. So you do need to do a download someday.

1424
01:51:43,780 --> 01:51:50,900
So, but very appreciated all the efforts and, and again, our community volunteers are just

1425
01:51:50,900 --> 01:51:55,480
exceptional at stepping up to the plate. So, just want to give a shout out to you. Thank

1426
01:51:55,480 --> 01:51:56,480
Thank you.

1427
01:51:57,240 --> 01:51:59,280
Councillor Woodland, Councillor Mance.

1428
01:52:04,620 --> 01:52:05,760
Begin, all right, promise.

1429
01:52:06,420 --> 01:52:12,280
I'd be remiss and I think my colleagues hopefully will agree that I would like to thank

1430
01:52:12,280 --> 01:52:20,680
all of the sponsors over the year who have sponsored our large art pieces in order that

1431
01:52:20,680 --> 01:52:28,260
we have those throughout the city, so that is my thank you to all of them.

1432
01:52:28,860 --> 01:52:29,980
Thanks, Councilor Manz.

1433
01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:36,760
Thank you very much, Michael. We really do appreciate you bringing this forward. Our in Lake Australia is one of the things that makes the community very special.

1434
01:52:37,200 --> 01:52:46,720
Then unique draws lots of visitors is enjoyed by all of the residents and in live ends. Every kind of corner of the city provides a lot of culture.

1435
01:52:47,460 --> 01:52:51,560
If we were ever, I will say, we are bringing one new piece of property on board and that's the cemetery.

1436
01:52:52,320 --> 01:52:56,600
And I'll tell you what would fit really well in the cemetery as those armless and headless.

1437
01:52:57,120 --> 01:52:58,100
Take the subway up down.

1438
01:52:58,780 --> 01:52:59,440
What do you think?

1439
01:53:00,200 --> 01:53:00,520
And then?

1440
01:53:01,160 --> 01:53:04,000
You know what that is something that the Public Art Committee can consider?

1441
01:53:04,420 --> 01:53:04,840
Okay.

1442
01:53:05,420 --> 01:53:06,180
Put that on the agenda.

1443
01:53:06,900 --> 01:53:07,660
Can I make a motion?

1444
01:53:08,100 --> 01:53:08,220
Yeah.

1445
01:53:08,660 --> 01:53:12,440
I'd like to approve the Arts Council of like a Swigo Annual Public Art Plan.

1446
01:53:12,840 --> 01:53:12,860
Okay.

1447
01:53:13,060 --> 01:53:14,480
I'll get a move to the park.

1448
01:53:16,120 --> 01:53:16,540
Yeah.

1449
01:53:17,260 --> 01:53:18,640
That's up to the Arts Council.

1450
01:53:18,640 --> 01:53:27,640
All right, motion was made by Councilwoman that is seconded by Councilver. Any discussion? All right, all those in favor say aye.

1451
01:53:27,900 --> 01:53:32,320
Aye. Any opposed? Okay, motion passes seven zero. Thank you to call.

1452
01:53:32,700 --> 01:53:35,280
Thank you very much. It's always a pleasure to come see you.

1453
01:53:35,280 --> 01:53:36,480
Thank you very much.

1454
01:53:36,680 --> 01:53:38,220
Folks, we're going to take a brief five minute recess.

1455
01:53:53,020 --> 01:53:54,480
Okay, we are back in order.

1456
01:53:55,020 --> 01:53:55,920
Thanks everyone for waiting.

1457
01:53:55,920 --> 01:54:04,020
Next up on the agenda we have consideration of ordinance 2980, this is the E micro mobility device usage.

1458
01:54:04,760 --> 01:54:09,380
I'll invite police chief George Burke and captain Clayton Simon to come forward.

1459
01:54:09,900 --> 01:54:13,920
And while they're getting set up we'll ask Erica to please read this.

1460
01:54:14,880 --> 01:54:17,160
The hearing procedures for this public hearing.

1461
01:54:19,010 --> 01:54:22,510
We will now open the legislative public hearing on ordinance 2980,

1462
01:54:22,510 --> 01:54:25,730
amending chapter 32 of like us, we go city code.

1463
01:54:26,290 --> 01:54:28,730
We'll start with a presentation by staff and then public testimony.

1464
01:54:29,950 --> 01:54:31,010
Thanks, Hurgout.

1465
01:54:31,350 --> 01:54:31,470
All right.

1466
01:54:31,770 --> 01:54:32,270
Chief, Kevin.

1467
01:54:33,170 --> 01:54:33,730
Good evening.

1468
01:54:33,730 --> 01:54:34,210
Good evening, Mayor.

1469
01:54:34,290 --> 01:54:35,930
Members Council on George Burke.

1470
01:54:35,950 --> 01:54:36,510
Chief of Police.

1471
01:54:36,650 --> 01:54:38,770
I'm company by Captain Clayton Simon.

1472
01:54:39,710 --> 01:54:44,110
Back in July of this year that we came before you during a study session, presented some

1473
01:54:44,110 --> 01:54:48,850
information regarding some e-micromability and an ordinance proposed ordinance for

1474
01:54:48,850 --> 01:54:54,850
to draft. We took feedback during that study session and went back to the drawing board, incorporated

1475
01:54:54,850 --> 01:55:00,530
the changes that were directed by council, and I'm going to kind of get ahead a little bit

1476
01:55:00,530 --> 01:55:05,010
and tell you that ultimately what we're going to be doing is asking for you to adopt the

1477
01:55:05,010 --> 01:55:11,630
resolution as proposed. I would also like to say that I owe a lot to Captain Simon because he did

1478
01:55:11,630 --> 01:55:15,970
the heavy lift on this, did the research, and really did a lot of the work to put this ordinance

1479
01:55:15,970 --> 01:55:19,430
together for all of you. So I'm going to turn it over to him to give you the details of the

1480
01:55:19,430 --> 01:55:23,570
changes that we put in place. He's pretty well bullet pointed. There's not a big presentation

1481
01:55:23,570 --> 01:55:29,530
for you to look at and admire and go through. Pretty much seen it and we just want to make sure

1482
01:55:29,530 --> 01:55:36,510
we're here to answer any questions. Good evening everyone. We are the presentation. Sorry,

1483
01:55:36,510 --> 01:55:43,930
no visuals. Just what you see up here. But just really quickly, I appreciate Chief's words

1484
01:55:44,410 --> 01:55:48,310
and support there, but it was also our city attorney's office.

1485
01:55:48,390 --> 01:55:49,810
It was our city manager's office.

1486
01:55:49,990 --> 01:55:51,930
There were a lot of folks that helped contribute to this,

1487
01:55:51,930 --> 01:55:52,530
including yourself.

1488
01:55:53,030 --> 01:55:54,270
So there was a lot of folks that helped out.

1489
01:55:54,270 --> 01:55:56,570
And I really appreciate that.

1490
01:55:56,790 --> 01:55:58,530
We, to kind of quickly get into it,

1491
01:55:58,610 --> 01:56:00,730
we simplified a certain device terminology.

1492
01:56:00,990 --> 01:56:03,350
When we look through it, it's a complicated subject.

1493
01:56:03,570 --> 01:56:04,990
We wanted to make it simple, so we tried.

1494
01:56:05,610 --> 01:56:08,950
We updated the antiquated provisions related to bicycles,

1495
01:56:09,050 --> 01:56:11,870
and where they could park, and how they could be written,

1496
01:56:11,870 --> 01:56:13,730
to make sure that they align with state statute.

1497
01:56:14,550 --> 01:56:17,590
Now, we added clarifying information regarding device types,

1498
01:56:17,750 --> 01:56:19,530
their law-flopperation and locations,

1499
01:56:20,650 --> 01:56:22,330
and where those devices can be operated.

1500
01:56:22,890 --> 01:56:25,750
We also added some more descriptive language identifying

1501
01:56:25,750 --> 01:56:30,630
what both unsafe operation and what unreasonable speeds are.

1502
01:56:30,810 --> 01:56:32,530
So it's not an all-inclusive list,

1503
01:56:32,570 --> 01:56:34,690
but it gives a good framework for people.

1504
01:56:34,750 --> 01:56:35,910
Anyone reading it to understand,

1505
01:56:36,090 --> 01:56:38,530
hey, this is kind of what they mean by those two things.

1506
01:56:39,250 --> 01:56:41,410
We added an escalation of penalties.

1507
01:56:41,410 --> 01:56:49,490
So, if you get subsequent violations within 12 months, it escalates the fine and we work with our municipal court on some of that.

1508
01:56:50,570 --> 01:56:52,390
Let's see, we developed public information materials.

1509
01:56:52,630 --> 01:56:57,030
It isn't necessarily within the ordinance, but we sent out, you know, those things on our social media sites.

1510
01:56:57,030 --> 01:56:58,330
We work through the city's website.

1511
01:56:59,250 --> 01:57:06,210
I appreciate parks and the library and the ACC for letting us put up our literature there for folks to see.

1512
01:57:06,670 --> 01:57:08,770
And we distribute those materials all throughout the community.

1513
01:57:08,770 --> 01:57:13,810
And again, the revisions, everything that we've kind of put forth is intended to improve

1514
01:57:13,810 --> 01:57:19,050
clarity for writers, parents, community members, and law enforcement while obviously maintaining

1515
01:57:19,050 --> 01:57:22,610
the approach that supports education, safe use, and reasonable enforcement.

1516
01:57:23,950 --> 01:57:25,150
And that's what we've done.

1517
01:57:25,390 --> 01:57:28,890
And really just to reinforce what we're talking about is really, we're looking at safe

1518
01:57:28,890 --> 01:57:29,310
behaviors.

1519
01:57:29,910 --> 01:57:35,550
And it's not, it's nothing against e-mug mobility devices, certainly encourage, especially

1520
01:57:35,550 --> 01:57:39,950
creating a accessibility for a lot of folks who may not otherwise have that accessibility or

1521
01:57:39,950 --> 01:57:45,510
that ability to be mobile. It's just about how people behave while they're using the devices.

1522
01:57:46,930 --> 01:57:50,690
I also want to comment on the fact that we've had conversations with the school district

1523
01:57:51,390 --> 01:57:56,630
and future plans roll out. We'll do some education pieces with the school district and I look forward

1524
01:57:56,630 --> 01:58:02,130
to some agreements between us and the school district and how we can work together on school properties.

1525
01:58:02,130 --> 01:58:07,470
Great, okay. Any questions for Chief Captain?

1526
01:58:07,810 --> 01:58:09,830
The question? So, Councilor Good question?

1527
01:58:13,150 --> 01:58:18,710
I agree like, we thank you very much, Clayton and Chief.

1528
01:58:19,030 --> 01:58:23,750
I mean, these are, we have a lot of folks reaching out to us.

1529
01:58:23,750 --> 01:58:30,970
Sometimes they agree that the city has to do something, but the problem I have,

1530
01:58:30,970 --> 01:58:34,950
So there's some of this device that we should tell people

1531
01:58:34,950 --> 01:58:39,610
they're outright unlawful to do.

1532
01:58:40,350 --> 01:58:43,090
Some of the e-bags that they remove the stuff.

1533
01:58:43,530 --> 01:58:45,810
Is it right or?

1534
01:58:47,110 --> 01:58:47,290
Yeah.

1535
01:58:47,490 --> 01:58:47,730
Councillor.

1536
01:58:47,970 --> 01:58:51,870
So the only device really that is completely on public roads

1537
01:58:51,870 --> 01:58:55,730
and public property that we say, hey, you can't ride regardless of age

1538
01:58:55,730 --> 01:58:58,330
are the non-compliant mobility devices.

1539
01:58:58,570 --> 01:59:00,430
And those are those kind of e-motos that you see.

1540
01:59:00,430 --> 01:59:01,350
They look like dirt bikes.

1541
01:59:01,610 --> 01:59:04,630
Yeah, they don't have any pedals on them and you're riding those.

1542
01:59:05,030 --> 01:59:09,650
If they can fall within the classification of a moped, in other words, the person that's

1543
01:59:09,650 --> 01:59:15,130
riding as a driver's license, you don't need an endorsement for it, and you can get it registered

1544
01:59:15,130 --> 01:59:19,290
with the state, and it doesn't go above 30 miles per hour, and it doesn't essentially

1545
01:59:19,290 --> 01:59:24,550
produce more than 50ccs, those can still be written in compliance with the moped laws here

1546
01:59:24,550 --> 01:59:25,370
in this uniform organ.

1547
01:59:26,150 --> 01:59:29,530
But those are really the only devices that we're saying you can't.

1548
01:59:29,530 --> 01:59:33,430
everything else you can it just depends on where we're and by

1549
01:59:33,430 --> 01:59:37,970
yeah so we're the goal really is we know how important these are for folks to get around

1550
01:59:37,970 --> 01:59:43,630
I was talking just at the break you know my mother I think I mentioned before she's got one

1551
01:59:43,630 --> 01:59:47,350
you know to write around at the coast big that tire you bike you know just so she can get around

1552
01:59:47,350 --> 01:59:52,990
and so certainly we do not want people that are able to lawfully ride these things and do it in a safe way

1553
01:59:52,990 --> 01:59:58,250
we do not want to prohibit that at all and I don't believe that our ordinance amendments do that okay

1554
01:59:58,250 --> 01:59:59,970
No, that's because I...

1555
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:06,080
Yes, one, people know I'm real not against progress. These are new stuff that happens.

1556
02:00:06,720 --> 02:00:11,440
I was discussing with the mayor, you know, which I always do that I'm against this.

1557
02:00:12,320 --> 02:00:18,980
But the idea even of not writing for a child, like a real bike, is even not healthy,

1558
02:00:19,720 --> 02:00:26,400
like kids should pedal, you know. No, that's it. No, it's your issue. We have to be a

1559
02:00:26,400 --> 02:00:55,590
I mean, we have sometimes the same way we are saying no cell phone at school, I think we should even go to tell, if you are like between 12 and 18, you should pedal your bike to school, not like go, it's like, and it's the parents also that have to take their responsibility that it's not good to give your 12 year kid an electric bike, they should go.

1560
02:00:56,400 --> 02:00:59,040
you know, move, do something and get healthy.

1561
02:01:00,120 --> 02:01:03,040
So for that reason, I really, you know,

1562
02:01:03,120 --> 02:01:05,740
100% for these things,

1563
02:01:06,160 --> 02:01:09,620
the enforcement of the tools for our city.

1564
02:01:09,840 --> 02:01:10,620
Thank you.

1565
02:01:10,780 --> 02:01:11,120
Thank you.

1566
02:01:11,720 --> 02:01:16,060
And I appreciate the educational component of it as well.

1567
02:01:16,840 --> 02:01:17,980
That seems to be the biggest problem.

1568
02:01:18,500 --> 02:01:21,160
It's, you know, people are confused about the difference

1569
02:01:21,160 --> 02:01:25,140
between e-bikes and these other types of e-micromability

1570
02:01:25,140 --> 02:01:29,520
devices, the e-motos, people probably think that they're buying their kid and he bike.

1571
02:01:30,120 --> 02:01:32,540
You hear things like, oh, age has been even reduced on a class one.

1572
02:01:32,600 --> 02:01:37,480
He bikes, most people probably don't even know what a class one, e-bike, class two, of the

1573
02:01:37,480 --> 02:01:38,300
e-bike classification.

1574
02:01:38,640 --> 02:01:44,980
So we see these non, things that aren't really e-bikes, they are more like electric, more

1575
02:01:44,980 --> 02:01:49,580
recyclists of some kind, which you can't, it could be written with a little license plate

1576
02:01:49,580 --> 02:01:54,280
and then driver's license and with the endorsement and all that kind of stuff.

1577
02:01:54,280 --> 02:02:01,540
So they can be operated safely, but by the right people with the right license or insurance and what not.

1578
02:02:02,220 --> 02:02:03,700
So I think that education will help.

1579
02:02:03,800 --> 02:02:05,200
I mean, that's the nationwide problem.

1580
02:02:05,600 --> 02:02:10,820
The confusion that's been injected into this market, the proliferation devices and the ease,

1581
02:02:11,040 --> 02:02:12,180
which which people can get them.

1582
02:02:12,180 --> 02:02:15,100
It's not like you go to a local bike shop and they say, oh, well, we understand the rules.

1583
02:02:15,280 --> 02:02:19,540
I mean, you're just buying it online and it's kind of confusing.

1584
02:02:19,540 --> 02:02:25,400
So that this approach to keeping everyone safe, I mean these bikes in our infrastructure, I mean we do

1585
02:02:25,400 --> 02:02:28,500
want everyone to be able to get around the community using different modes of transportation,

1586
02:02:28,780 --> 02:02:35,760
but they've got to be able to do it safely and not in conflict, not in conflict with other

1587
02:02:35,760 --> 02:02:41,120
modes, you know people walking with cars and I think there is something because these

1588
02:02:41,120 --> 02:02:46,260
are particularly vulnerable road users because they are oftentimes kids or anyone who's

1589
02:02:46,260 --> 02:02:51,000
walking around a bike, whether it's a dollar kit, is, you know, of course, a more vulnerable

1590
02:02:51,000 --> 02:02:51,800
road user.

1591
02:02:52,120 --> 02:02:56,700
And we're sensitive to the fact that already those road users are, I mean, they're vulnerable

1592
02:02:56,700 --> 02:02:58,600
because they're up against large cars, you know.

1593
02:02:59,120 --> 02:03:04,120
And so we want to make sure we're cultivating an environment here where it's safe for everyone,

1594
02:03:04,320 --> 02:03:06,940
we're not just saying, well, cars will do what they're going to do and everyone else has

1595
02:03:06,940 --> 02:03:12,200
to kind of adapt, but we're creating like a safe environment for all the different types

1596
02:03:12,200 --> 02:03:13,000
and that's complicated.

1597
02:03:13,000 --> 02:03:15,960
because I mean, we have created a car centric thing.

1598
02:03:16,100 --> 02:03:18,060
I mean, it's hard to unwind that, obviously.

1599
02:03:19,480 --> 02:03:21,780
But other safety initiatives of the department

1600
02:03:22,260 --> 02:03:24,400
and the city are undertaking with infrastructure

1601
02:03:24,400 --> 02:03:26,000
and investments all play a role in that.

1602
02:03:26,000 --> 02:03:27,460
So this is just, I think, a nice piece

1603
02:03:27,460 --> 02:03:30,340
of the overall kind of safety puzzle

1604
02:03:30,840 --> 02:03:33,560
and investments and policies

1605
02:03:33,560 --> 02:03:35,520
that we've crafted to keep everyone safe.

1606
02:03:35,980 --> 02:03:37,080
So I appreciate your good work.

1607
02:03:37,640 --> 02:03:41,260
Councilwoman, two questions on, love the policy.

1608
02:03:41,260 --> 02:03:47,900
I think it's for policy. It's pretty straightforward for us, but we look at policy a lot.

1609
02:03:50,680 --> 02:03:57,540
I guess my question is when I'm assuming this is going to pass, what's your plan on figuring

1610
02:03:57,540 --> 02:04:06,780
out how to get the message more clearly without somebody having to read through a 14-page document?

1611
02:04:06,780 --> 02:04:14,460
Are we going to have like a postcard or something that gives you basically the three main elements

1612
02:04:14,460 --> 02:04:15,260
that we're after?

1613
02:04:15,880 --> 02:04:19,260
Yeah, I'll deal with the first part of that, which I think the first outreach for us

1614
02:04:19,260 --> 02:04:20,900
is to work directly with the school districts.

1615
02:04:21,520 --> 02:04:26,140
We take a look at the population that's really utilizing the e-microability devices, especially

1616
02:04:26,140 --> 02:04:28,620
in ways that are more unsafe.

1617
02:04:29,440 --> 02:04:32,240
So that education piece will happen directly with the schools.

1618
02:04:32,240 --> 02:04:40,460
We already have some meetings set up where we get to where we'll invite parents and students in and we can have the presentation and kind of go over the details of that.

1619
02:04:40,700 --> 02:04:44,520
I'll turn over to Captain Simon over any other outreach that we're doing or materials.

1620
02:04:45,300 --> 02:04:47,260
So it's like you read my mind.

1621
02:04:48,060 --> 02:04:54,700
And so we actually have a postcard with all that information on it that actually directs folks right to our website via QR code.

1622
02:04:54,900 --> 02:05:01,440
We have other additional flyouts. This is what's out in some of the other city locations for people to see and what we've posted on our own website.

1623
02:05:02,100 --> 02:05:06,900
We're actually meeting, we work with Madison and the City Manager's office to connect with the schools.

1624
02:05:07,080 --> 02:05:10,580
And so we actually have a presentation set for, I think it's the fifth or sixth of October.

1625
02:05:10,860 --> 02:05:14,820
Don't quote me. It's one of those two days over at the new Lake US Legal Middle School.

1626
02:05:14,940 --> 02:05:16,940
And we're going to invite folks in so we can answer questions.

1627
02:05:17,540 --> 02:05:23,320
But what is clearly a large group of folks that are probably wondering, hey, how does all this really apply and what is it we can do.

1628
02:05:23,500 --> 02:05:29,420
So we're going to, we have that, that coming on and we'll obviously be reaching out in many, many other ways that we've already done.

1629
02:05:29,420 --> 02:05:32,940
So when the passing, hey, if this is successful, hey, this is live,

1630
02:05:32,940 --> 02:05:35,480
this is what to be expected, so people know.

1631
02:05:35,660 --> 02:05:38,620
And then we've actually given a lot of these postcards out,

1632
02:05:38,640 --> 02:05:40,840
appreciate Lauren quickly putting these things together,

1633
02:05:41,700 --> 02:05:44,200
because we've been given them to our officers who are given

1634
02:05:44,200 --> 02:05:46,540
out to folks, whether it's through an enforcement contact

1635
02:05:46,540 --> 02:05:48,500
or just a community contact saying, hey,

1636
02:05:48,740 --> 02:05:49,900
you guys need to know about this stuff.

1637
02:05:50,680 --> 02:05:53,980
So well, you can get on the district, email blasts,

1638
02:05:54,200 --> 02:05:56,900
which would be very helpful to go out to all the parents

1639
02:05:56,900 --> 02:06:04,140
with your information, so make sure you do that because you can last out to all the kids parents who

1640
02:06:04,140 --> 02:06:08,400
should know. The other part, enforcement,

1641
02:06:11,000 --> 02:06:15,340
will we see kind of a gradual change or are we going to be

1642
02:06:15,340 --> 02:06:22,840
like make a statement so that people wake up and go, okay, we're serious. I think we've been making

1643
02:06:23,460 --> 02:06:27,920
we've been doing a lot in education over the last couple years. I'm not going to say that

1644
02:06:27,920 --> 02:06:32,820
we're going to go from education to immediate enforcement. I think there's a happy medium

1645
02:06:32,820 --> 02:06:37,740
in there and I think our officers have the ability to figure out what's appropriate at the time

1646
02:06:37,740 --> 02:06:41,780
where they're making those contacts. There are a lot of people we've had repeat contacts with.

1647
02:06:42,800 --> 02:06:47,640
So I would say there's probably less leniency with them and more leniency with folks who are

1648
02:06:47,640 --> 02:06:49,920
we're just now having contact with the first time.

1649
02:06:50,980 --> 02:06:55,280
One of the benefits of folks that if they end up being cited under this particular ordinance

1650
02:06:55,280 --> 02:06:59,900
is working with our municipal court, is there's kind of a first-time diversion or safety

1651
02:06:59,900 --> 02:07:00,380
class.

1652
02:07:00,720 --> 02:07:04,720
So there is the ability even with enforcement to have education on the front end and nothing

1653
02:07:04,720 --> 02:07:05,860
count against you.

1654
02:07:07,700 --> 02:07:08,160
Thank you.

1655
02:07:08,320 --> 02:07:08,940
Councilor Afghan.

1656
02:07:11,360 --> 02:07:21,640
This is going to be a cultural shock for our city and I for one will volunteer to hand out

1657
02:07:21,640 --> 02:07:24,320
as many cards as you give me.

1658
02:07:24,480 --> 02:07:28,500
So I'm your ambassador to reduce that culture or shock.

1659
02:07:29,000 --> 02:07:29,960
And if you wish...

1660
02:07:30,000 --> 02:07:48,900
The next couple three farmers market, I'll be standing there with a volunteer badge and handing things to people, so they understand. These are the grown-ups who buy the devices for their kids, so they also understand that this is coming and this is Syria.

1661
02:07:49,780 --> 02:07:54,320
So I think you should use us as your ambassadors to make it happen.

1662
02:07:54,320 --> 02:07:57,100
Thank you.

1663
02:07:57,500 --> 02:08:06,260
Okay, we will go ahead and open the public hearing and I'll ask it there, but I don't know if there's is there anyone here wants to testify the ordinance.

1664
02:08:06,720 --> 02:08:08,860
I'll see anyone. So we're going to.

1665
02:08:08,860 --> 02:08:13,180
Oh, I didn't close the public hearing and then we'll entertain a motion to an act ordinance, twenty-nine eighty.

1666
02:08:13,580 --> 02:08:16,080
Move to enact ordinance, twenty-nine eighty.

1667
02:08:16,840 --> 02:08:19,420
Okay, motion made by Council and Boop and seconded by Council verdict.

1668
02:08:19,540 --> 02:08:21,380
Any discussion? Thank you.

1669
02:08:22,560 --> 02:08:23,920
Okay, all those in favor say aye.

1670
02:08:23,920 --> 02:08:29,880
any opposed? Okay, motion passes 7-0. All right. Thank you, Chief. Thank you, Captain.

1671
02:08:31,300 --> 02:08:37,440
Can I just add a thank you to them as well? Thank you to both Captain and Archief.

1672
02:08:37,600 --> 02:08:40,640
For moving this pretty fast, I mean it's been a growing concern

1673
02:08:41,280 --> 02:08:46,340
but really kind of reach just peak this spring. And they did a great job thinking about how to

1674
02:08:46,340 --> 02:08:51,840
move this through and make sure that the cultural shift happens. So thank you to both of them.

1675
02:08:51,840 --> 02:08:52,760
Yeah, it's good work.

1676
02:08:52,800 --> 02:08:54,680
Good cross, jurisdiction, or C.

1677
02:08:57,380 --> 02:08:57,860
OK.

1678
02:08:59,240 --> 02:08:59,720
OK.

1679
02:09:00,260 --> 02:09:03,560
Moving on, we now have a study session, this evening,

1680
02:09:04,000 --> 02:09:06,920
on the code audit, kind of a two-and-one here.

1681
02:09:07,320 --> 02:09:08,860
We're going to talk about the code audit project,

1682
02:09:08,960 --> 02:09:10,480
all in a associate planner, Evan, for instance,

1683
02:09:10,680 --> 02:09:11,480
to add to please come forward.

1684
02:09:12,420 --> 02:09:13,480
We're going to talk about the formation

1685
02:09:13,480 --> 02:09:15,680
of a technical advisory committee related to the code

1686
02:09:15,680 --> 02:09:17,680
audit project work as well.

1687
02:09:24,820 --> 02:09:25,680
Good evening.

1688
02:09:35,240 --> 02:09:35,920
Good evening.

1689
02:09:38,190 --> 02:09:42,450
good evening, evening mayor and council.

1690
02:09:43,970 --> 02:09:52,170
Okay, so as Mayor Bucks, we are here to talk about the Code Audit project and our project team is myself.

1691
02:09:52,350 --> 02:09:57,930
I'm Evan Franston, I'm a senior planner with Steve Lickus, we have been here for a little bit over 12 years.

1692
02:09:58,590 --> 02:10:03,530
Asmartine is just convoluted, we are community development director and Eric Olsen along

1693
02:10:03,530 --> 02:10:04,450
range point and manager.

1694
02:10:05,190 --> 02:10:11,370
To my left, our consultants is 3-day, 3-day consulting, Lee Aligud, she's a project manager

1695
02:10:11,370 --> 02:10:12,970
and Karen Tolstatt.

1696
02:10:13,170 --> 02:10:16,950
She's our community engagement coordinator with various collaborations.

1697
02:10:19,570 --> 02:10:22,710
And for the, I guess, to give you an overview of what we're going to talk about today.

1698
02:10:24,330 --> 02:10:28,550
Today is a work session for nearly a check point with the council on the Code Audit Project

1699
02:10:28,550 --> 02:10:31,470
to receive feedback on the background report

1700
02:10:31,470 --> 02:10:33,670
and a draft public involvement strategy

1701
02:10:34,250 --> 02:10:36,550
before we begin the full audit project.

1702
02:10:37,370 --> 02:10:40,470
I'll briefly provide the project's background and purpose,

1703
02:10:41,250 --> 02:10:43,570
summary and overall process, current work and timeline.

1704
02:10:44,330 --> 02:10:46,330
Now, I'll turn it over to three J. Consulting

1705
02:10:46,330 --> 02:10:48,950
who will provide an overview of their work to date

1706
02:10:48,950 --> 02:10:51,510
and include key findings from the background report

1707
02:10:51,510 --> 02:10:53,790
and an overview of the public involvement strategy.

1708
02:10:56,560 --> 02:10:59,580
So the request to council is to provide feedback

1709
02:10:59,580 --> 02:11:04,900
on the consultant's findings and areas have focused on the initial review of the CDC.

1710
02:11:05,620 --> 02:11:11,960
Provide feedback on the draft public involvement strategy and improve resolution 26-52 to

1711
02:11:11,960 --> 02:11:15,940
form a technical advisory committee to provide technical input throughout the project.

1712
02:11:19,280 --> 02:11:26,680
As background, the subject of the code audit is LOC chapter 50's community development code.

1713
02:11:26,680 --> 02:11:30,960
And this regulates land use and development within the city.

1714
02:11:31,720 --> 02:11:35,260
The CDC is a framework that guides how development occurs in Lake Aspago.

1715
02:11:36,540 --> 02:11:40,620
Over time the code has become increasingly complex due to many factors, including multiple

1716
02:11:40,620 --> 02:11:45,460
code amendments, adoption of detailed overlay districts, and infant design standards to

1717
02:11:45,460 --> 02:11:48,120
ethnicity, and new state requirements.

1718
02:11:49,120 --> 02:11:53,760
The need for an in-depth comprehensive analysis of the development code was identified in both

1719
02:11:53,760 --> 02:11:59,420
the 2022 economic development strategy and resource plan as well as the city's housing production

1720
02:11:59,420 --> 02:12:05,520
strategy and is supported by city council initiative to begin comprehensive review with

1721
02:12:05,520 --> 02:12:10,520
the development code to identify barriers to housing production and economic development and

1722
02:12:10,520 --> 02:12:13,420
implement code amendments to address those barriers.

1723
02:12:18,240 --> 02:12:19,640
So the community development department

1724
02:12:19,640 --> 02:12:25,860
currently has two projects that are working tandem. We have the rezoning for housing project

1725
02:12:25,860 --> 02:12:27,520
and we have the Code Auto Project.

1726
02:12:30,160 --> 02:12:35,260
The, the reason for housing project will evaluate cities mixed use, mixed use and commercial

1727
02:12:35,260 --> 02:12:40,380
zones in order to increase housing capacity to address the city's deficit of land needed

1728
02:12:40,380 --> 02:12:41,900
for housing in the next 20 years.

1729
02:12:42,640 --> 02:12:47,720
The Code Auto Project, as I discussed already, addresses city regulations and development review

1730
02:12:47,720 --> 02:12:52,880
processes in the CDC to make housing construction and business development more predictable

1731
02:12:52,880 --> 02:12:53,540
and efficient.

1732
02:12:53,540 --> 02:12:58,080
The audit will look at code rules, procedures, and requirements to make it harder to build housing

1733
02:12:58,080 --> 02:13:01,100
or support local businesses and economic development.

1734
02:13:01,920 --> 02:13:07,100
The project will also provide recommendations for how to ensure compliance with new state housing

1735
02:13:07,100 --> 02:13:09,720
mandates while maintaining community standards.

1736
02:13:10,520 --> 02:13:15,120
The rezoning for housing project evaluates commercial mix to use other non-residential areas

1737
02:13:15,120 --> 02:13:20,860
while where zoning map changes may allow for more housing, especially multi-family housing.

1738
02:13:20,860 --> 02:13:27,120
It will identify focused areas and analyze them to determine appropriate upsowning scenarios.

1739
02:13:32,700 --> 02:13:36,300
And here are the main focus areas for the code out of project.

1740
02:13:37,120 --> 02:13:41,160
We look at usability efficiency, housing, economic development and compliance.

1741
02:13:42,660 --> 02:13:44,300
It's organized basically in five areas.

1742
02:13:44,780 --> 02:13:48,060
We're looking for how to make an easier to use the code and streamline the development process,

1743
02:13:48,700 --> 02:13:52,520
better as for housing economic development, and ensure the code complies with state requirements.

1744
02:13:54,150 --> 02:13:57,690
Here's now a view of process, basically there's two phases.

1745
02:13:58,150 --> 02:14:01,930
So the first phase is currently underway, we're in the research analysis phase right now.

1746
02:14:02,630 --> 02:14:06,930
The next phase, which we'll begin in October, is the code audit itself, where we review

1747
02:14:06,930 --> 02:14:13,870
the CDC and identify regulatory barriers and process, and consistencies and opportunities

1748
02:14:13,870 --> 02:14:15,270
to poor improvement.

1749
02:14:15,810 --> 02:14:21,430
That would be followed by the final audit report, which incorporates staff, stakeholder, and

1750
02:14:21,430 --> 02:14:25,790
public input and provide recommendation for addressing identified issues.

1751
02:14:26,630 --> 02:14:27,990
The next phase is implementation.

1752
02:14:28,570 --> 02:14:30,170
This is where we get into the code of amendments.

1753
02:14:30,990 --> 02:14:36,670
We'll develop proposed code of amendments based on the out of report and obtain public

1754
02:14:36,670 --> 02:14:40,170
and advisory body feedback at that time.

1755
02:14:40,810 --> 02:14:45,050
And then after that, we will apply additional review recommendations and file by city council

1756
02:14:45,050 --> 02:14:48,010
consideration for final adoption of the code of amendments.

1757
02:14:50,280 --> 02:14:53,280
And here's an overview of where we are currently.

1758
02:14:54,200 --> 02:14:58,720
The first task was to conduct research analysis that is providing the background and

1759
02:14:58,720 --> 02:14:59,960
pork that was attached to the...

1760
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:05,600
The Board's, the study session materials, attachment 1. This was completed in July.

1761
02:15:08,100 --> 02:15:09,120
It's a three-day consulting

1762
02:15:09,120 --> 02:15:15,400
will provide more details after I finish up here. The first step was to do interviews with staff,

1763
02:15:15,540 --> 02:15:19,820
that includes the city staff with planning, building, redevelopment, economic development, and engineering

1764
02:15:19,820 --> 02:15:26,080
department, as well as the riffs from the Lake Aspiego Chamber of Commerce to identify key issues that need

1765
02:15:26,080 --> 02:15:29,980
to be addressed. We're in the process of conducting focus groups with different

1766
02:15:29,980 --> 02:15:36,160
stakeholders and in the local housing and business communities and the neighborhood chairs group

1767
02:15:36,160 --> 02:15:41,340
we'll talk to them at the end of the month. And this is to gather input regarding

1768
02:15:41,340 --> 02:15:46,280
bearish to housing and economic development, city review processes, and other issues that

1769
02:15:46,280 --> 02:15:52,960
impact timely efficient and predictable permitting. 3J will is currently in the process of

1770
02:15:52,960 --> 02:15:59,960
drafting a public involvement strategy, which Karen will discuss. The final strategy will be

1771
02:16:00,540 --> 02:16:10,220
A city council study session is scheduled for November where we will we can discuss the final public involvement strategy and whatever else you would like to discuss

1772
02:16:10,220 --> 02:16:13,560
You couldn't talk about tonight and we can cover it in November.

1773
02:16:15,270 --> 02:16:17,090
And here's the project schedule.

1774
02:16:18,330 --> 02:16:21,090
So project will be completed in approximately 18 months.

1775
02:16:21,370 --> 02:16:24,710
So it's in the winner of 2027-2028.

1776
02:16:25,150 --> 02:16:29,330
Thought of vehicle started in October and ended in April with a final audit report.

1777
02:16:29,330 --> 02:16:35,470
Then we begin the cutout at phase, which we're going to main through January of 2020-27.

1778
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Both the PC and the Council will be consulted throughout the project to ask for a

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provide direction on the key policy issues and priorities.

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Review and refine the findings and recommendations of the other report itself.

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Provide feedback on the proposed code of amendments, consider and adopt final code of amendments at public hearing.

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Next, 3J consulting, we'll give an overview of the background report and public involvement

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strategy.

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We can answer any questions in their presentation.

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So here is Lee with their presentation.

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All right.

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Thank you, Evan.

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Good afternoon, Mayor and Council members.

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I will provide a pretty brief and high level update.

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But I'm also happy to answer any questions you might have when we're through.

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So, as Evan mentioned, my name is Lee, I'm a planner with 3J Consulting, where based in

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02:17:25,430 --> 02:17:30,370
Beaverton and our team, though we have just two of us here tonight, includes a number

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02:17:30,370 --> 02:17:36,070
of people with specialties in Urban Design and Planning and Public Invade involvement in

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02:17:36,070 --> 02:17:38,270
all different areas of this project.

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02:17:38,650 --> 02:17:41,610
So it's not just us, we have a team behind us.

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This is the first time we're with you here tonight, although you've heard about the projects,

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I believe a number of times, this is our first meeting with you all, so we're excited to talk to you and let you know what we've been up to.

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Next slide.

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So the objectives of the project, as Evan mentioned, is to remove regulatory barriers to housing and economic development to retain standards for her quality development, which is like us because known for.

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To comply with recent housing related state legislation, as you all are aware, there's been quite a bit of activity on that front in the last few years.

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and also to streamline the community development code

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02:18:16,180 --> 02:18:18,640
and make it more user-friendly and easy to apply.

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Next slide.

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So the background report is review of existing plans

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02:18:26,400 --> 02:18:29,180
and previous efforts so that includes your comprehensive plan,

1806
02:18:29,240 --> 02:18:31,480
your economic development strategy, your housing,

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02:18:31,980 --> 02:18:34,140
capacity analysis, housing, production strategy,

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02:18:34,520 --> 02:18:36,000
neighborhood plans, all the documents

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02:18:36,000 --> 02:18:38,020
that the city has adopted over the years

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that then feed into the CDC.

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02:18:40,540 --> 02:18:42,720
We also did kind of a preliminary review

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02:18:42,720 --> 02:18:44,720
of the community development code high level

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02:18:44,720 --> 02:18:46,720
just to see where we need to focus our effort

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on the next part.

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And we had interviews and focus groups with a number of people,

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city staff is Evan mentioned.

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We also talked with developers and builders

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02:18:54,580 --> 02:18:56,920
who are active or have been active and like us,

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02:18:57,040 --> 02:18:59,940
we go architects and consultants, planning consultants

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02:18:59,940 --> 02:19:02,120
that represent applicants and like us,

1821
02:19:02,140 --> 02:19:05,000
we go and employers to hear from them.

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02:19:05,140 --> 02:19:08,520
What their thoughts are about how the code functions

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02:19:08,520 --> 02:19:10,460
and where it might be able to be improved.

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02:19:12,340 --> 02:19:18,140
So the issues that came out of those conversations, and I don't know that any of these are surprising.

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02:19:18,540 --> 02:19:21,360
But the code is difficult to use for applicants and staff.

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02:19:21,360 --> 02:19:24,380
Over the years it's become kind of unwieldy.

1827
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It's been updated in a number of times to respond to specific issues.

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But there haven't hasn't been a wholesale evaluation of the code and the structure of the code and how you can find information that you're looking for.

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And I think universally, the users of the code recognize that it has opportunities for improvement.

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And like us, we also have a number of overlays that apply in addition to base zoning throughout the city.

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And sometimes those overlays conflict with the base zones, they have different standards for the same things.

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02:19:56,180 --> 02:19:59,660
And they can be very confusing and difficult to navigate.

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And finally, there are some building code thresholds that can prevent people from building some of the

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are permitted but perhaps not as desirable

1835
02:20:10,520 --> 02:20:12,740
because they're subject to commercial building code

1836
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rather than residential building code.

1837
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And so it goes through just the areas that have been lined out.

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So the code structure we are recommending

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reorganization of the code based on the conversations

1840
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we had with city staff as people who apply the code

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02:20:31,080 --> 02:20:33,760
and as applicants who are trying to find information

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02:20:33,760 --> 02:20:34,580
in the code.

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There's also an opportunity to combine a number

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of design standards to create a simplified menu

1845
02:20:39,920 --> 02:20:42,740
of design requirements, not necessarily to change them,

1846
02:20:42,960 --> 02:20:44,940
but they exist in a lot of different locations,

1847
02:20:45,640 --> 02:20:47,600
and it would be easier for people to find them

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if they were in one place.

1849
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And then our team also did an analysis

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02:20:51,600 --> 02:20:54,380
of the overlaze design district space outing

1851
02:20:54,380 --> 02:20:57,720
and found that there are at least 52 combination zones in the city

1852
02:20:57,720 --> 02:21:00,980
when you apply all of these different regulations together

1853
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and then sub areas within each area.

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So there's certainly an opportunity

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can consolidate some of those overlays and design districts and make them more streamlined to

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02:21:10,300 --> 02:21:17,180
to find and to apply. For housing, this is another variation of the theme. There are

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02:21:17,180 --> 02:21:21,380
neighborhood overlays that have been adopted by various neighborhood associations and that are

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02:21:21,380 --> 02:21:27,440
applied on top of underlying zoning and, again, can have some complex and be difficult to interpret

1859
02:21:27,440 --> 02:21:33,420
and to apply. And some development and design standards in our conversations with developers

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02:21:33,420 --> 02:21:39,540
I had a regulation in complexity, but don't necessarily improve the outcome, so it doesn't necessarily

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02:21:39,540 --> 02:21:45,200
result in a different or better product, it just creates another layer of difficulty.

1862
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And I will say it's, I think, important to note that no one said we should just throw everything out,

1863
02:21:50,980 --> 02:21:53,600
no one said we shouldn't have designed standard to demolish standards.

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They appreciate the role of those standards and creating a unique, like us, we go,

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02:21:58,860 --> 02:22:04,300
feel and community, but they did have some really constructive thoughts about ways that it could be

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streamlined and result in high quality development while removing some of these complications.

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And finally, I'm noted that development standards for mental housing are the same as first

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single detached dwellings. And among the developers we spoke with, they mentioned that that does make it

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02:22:19,460 --> 02:22:24,360
difficult to develop mental housing, because of those standards being the same.

1870
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But, economic development, the sign code came up over and over again.

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As a challenge for businesses, particularly and for staff. Also, the use categories in the code are for the most part current, but they don't necessarily accommodate hybrid or evolving business concepts that are just being developed and staff spends a lot of trying to figure out where things should be categorized.

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There's also tenant improvements and this isn't a fault of the CDC but there are also a lot of

1873
02:22:55,260 --> 02:23:01,300
unanticipated code requirements, as someone's changing the use of a business or if they want to

1874
02:23:01,300 --> 02:23:06,700
expand a business and maybe now it has to meet updated fire code requirements, things like that,

1875
02:23:07,020 --> 02:23:12,520
things that come as a surprise to people when they're doing tenant improvements and few cards and

1876
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the cart pods for mention a couple of times as a potential opportunity to increase

1877
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foot traffic downtown and bring in a different type of client or, you know, families and

1878
02:23:25,140 --> 02:23:30,720
group people that might not currently be coming down as much, but they're currently permitted

1879
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only as part of temporary events, so that's something that came up in those conversations.

1880
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Legislative compliance, you all know, again, there's done a lot of this happening and

1881
02:23:41,120 --> 02:24:00,100
It's generally around review procedures of standards and then housing types, so there are a number of slightly distinct but not the same review procedures for housing applications and then limited land use decisions which basically don't allow any discretion have been expanded to include subdivision plots.

1882
02:24:00,100 --> 02:24:02,860
protection plots and expansion of non-conforming uses.

1883
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City staff is aware of this.

1884
02:24:04,860 --> 02:24:10,180
They've been applying these new standards while we're updating the code,

1885
02:24:10,380 --> 02:24:12,040
but those are things that only need to be codified.

1886
02:24:12,780 --> 02:24:15,820
There's also been some rule making around metal housing.

1887
02:24:16,360 --> 02:24:19,260
And so one that just was adopted at the end of August

1888
02:24:19,260 --> 02:24:20,680
is around cottage clusters.

1889
02:24:20,820 --> 02:24:25,480
They've increased the average square footage that used to be 900 square feet.

1890
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Footprint notes 1400 square feet in area.

1891
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and also adopted rule making that minimum law size and dimensions for middle housing types

1892
02:24:33,000 --> 02:24:38,420
have to be the same as single detached. Under the previous regulations there was some leeway

1893
02:24:38,420 --> 02:24:43,820
to have large or minimum law sizes to have slightly different standards that's no longer the case.

1894
02:24:44,700 --> 02:24:57,060
And then housing types, middle housing can be attached or detached so it duplex could be to detach units or one or two

1895
02:24:57,060 --> 02:25:01,560
housing developments, and then a new housing type that's come out of the recent legislation

1896
02:25:01,560 --> 02:25:03,220
in a single room occupancies.

1897
02:25:03,820 --> 02:25:06,700
So those are things we'll be looking for as we're going through the code audit.

1898
02:25:07,340 --> 02:25:13,680
And the timeline for this project is great because it allows us to reflect the rule making

1899
02:25:13,680 --> 02:25:18,760
that's going on, and that won't be completed in some cases until January 20, 28.

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So we'll be able to incorporate those into these amendments to make sure that we're covering

1901
02:25:23,300 --> 02:25:24,140
all of our bases.

1902
02:25:25,880 --> 02:25:30,480
So there were a number of items that came up in conversations that we feel are important

1903
02:25:30,480 --> 02:25:33,760
for you all to be aware of, there are outside of the scope of this project.

1904
02:25:34,200 --> 02:25:36,920
But the sign code, as I mentioned, came up a lot.

1905
02:25:37,760 --> 02:25:42,140
The permitting and post-land use tracking process, people have a lot of really positive

1906
02:25:42,140 --> 02:25:47,520
things to say about the planning staff and the land use process, but things could be improved

1907
02:25:47,520 --> 02:25:51,660
on the back end as they're going through the development permitting process.

1908
02:25:51,660 --> 02:26:06,220
People mentioned reviewing the system development charges, we understand that that will be happening when you do the transportation system plan update in a few years and also as I mentioned food carts and food cart pods which is kind of a different conversation than just an economic development.

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So I'm going to hand this over to Karen to talk about the draft public involvement strategy.

1910
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She gave me this one.

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Before you is a at a glance chart of the different audiences and some plans, but I wanted to take a minute to talk about the strategy first.

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Obviously, code audit isn't a very sexy topic when it comes to public engagement.

1913
02:26:32,540 --> 02:26:37,120
Oh, that's an exciting one. It's not really a magnet for public engagement.

1914
02:26:37,120 --> 02:26:43,220
And particularly at the outset, like right now, where there aren't specific proposals, there's

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02:26:43,220 --> 02:26:46,300
just an evaluation of the code.

1916
02:26:47,100 --> 02:26:53,660
So the team has recommended doing the public engagement later after the code audit is underway

1917
02:26:53,660 --> 02:27:00,280
and there are very specific proposals and changes and then go out to the public for that.

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There are different categories of public, of course there's stakeholders and we know that the stakeholders have a very vested interest and we won't have trouble getting input from them and many of those interviews have already taken place.

1919
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Neighborhood associations are both public and stakeholders as property owners and it's critical to have them involved.

1920
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Normally, there really isn't much public interest in code audits, but because of the cottage clusters and the Flood Hills redevelopment project, clearly you've already seen some public interest from specific sets of folks.

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What is going to be absolutely critical is that we have a clear and easy to access tools for those folks to weigh in and to get up to date information.

1922
02:27:52,380 --> 02:27:58,840
And prior to actually having that information, we're going before the Neighborhood Association

1923
02:27:58,840 --> 02:28:04,040
Chair's Committee this month, again, there's really no information to share, but to really

1924
02:28:04,040 --> 02:28:08,800
let them know how transparent we're going to be going forward and to have them in the loop

1925
02:28:08,800 --> 02:28:11,540
now on what that plan is going to be.

1926
02:28:12,260 --> 02:28:18,480
So the first three categories there are the stakeholder groups and the Neighborhood Association

1927
02:28:18,480 --> 02:28:26,320
that presentation is happening, and then later when we actually have some potential decision points for you to make,

1928
02:28:26,820 --> 02:28:34,600
we will be going back to the neighborhood associations and giving them content, getting them to be able to invite their members,

1929
02:28:34,600 --> 02:28:38,620
directly to each of the neighborhood associations so that those folks can weigh in.

1930
02:28:40,440 --> 02:28:46,640
There will be a large set of what I would consider more traditional tools.

1931
02:28:46,640 --> 02:29:04,500
So for all of those people who are dying to aid now, there's a lot of them, we're going to have, you know, a robust website web pages with detailed information that they are going to want to just really get in and see the nitty-gritty and have some tool that allows them to weigh in when there is an opportunity.

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We know that there's a lot of things that are going to need to happen in code that there isn't much opportunity because of the state mandates.

1933
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So we also want to be careful that we're not setting up expectation that people can weigh in on things that they really can't influence.

1934
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For that reason, we're suggesting taking a very educational approach for people to really understand what some of these mandates are and what the city can influence and cannot.

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that those more traditional online robust to owe with lots of information and to public meetings

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02:29:40,000 --> 02:29:46,980
for those folks who are really eager to come and in person will be promoted through media

1937
02:29:46,980 --> 02:29:53,200
releases, social media, newsletter copy, flyers and public places, you know, a lot of the traditional

1938
02:29:53,200 --> 02:29:59,940
things, also work sessions with the City Commission, with the City Council, with planning.

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Commission, and with the technical advisory committee. However, code changes influence the character of the city, and effect everybody, not just those people who are dying to give input today, but the rest of the community, and they aren't going to be very interested in going through a multi page website of details to understand.

1940
02:30:23,360 --> 02:30:31,520
And so basically, anybody who is not coming to city council meetings now and is not going through detailed web pages,

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02:30:34,800 --> 02:30:37,960
those are underrepresented audience, as you're not hearing from them.

1942
02:30:38,440 --> 02:30:42,800
You'll hear loud and clear what a lot of folks think and want and need.

1943
02:30:43,700 --> 02:30:50,860
What we need to reach out to those that aren't being heard now in a way that they can, that is relatable to them.

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02:30:50,860 --> 02:30:53,340
We're not going to promote code on it, come get them much.

1945
02:30:54,140 --> 02:30:57,260
So I have some examples of how that might look.

1946
02:30:57,720 --> 02:31:01,740
But one of the things the project team is recommending is more of a,

1947
02:31:01,740 --> 02:31:07,000
but I call it quick and dirty survey tool that's particularly

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02:31:07,000 --> 02:31:07,980
for mobile devices.

1949
02:31:08,540 --> 02:31:14,180
And that's more of a visual and a caption that are relatable to people.

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02:31:14,540 --> 02:31:17,960
You're not bureaucratic talk, not technicalities,

1951
02:31:17,960 --> 02:31:20,420
but really where people can weigh in.

1952
02:31:21,060 --> 02:31:24,860
But the tool itself is only as good as how we promote that tool.

1953
02:31:26,140 --> 02:31:28,820
And there's only so many people who hang on the words

1954
02:31:28,820 --> 02:31:31,720
of all the city, newsletters, no matter how fabulous they are,

1955
02:31:32,360 --> 02:31:33,380
and all of that.

1956
02:31:33,580 --> 02:31:36,160
And a lot of those in, like us, we go in and many, many cities.

1957
02:31:37,020 --> 02:31:39,820
Our busy families of child-bearing age,

1958
02:31:40,100 --> 02:31:42,460
you're not seeing those in public hearings very often

1959
02:31:42,460 --> 02:31:44,040
and in public meetings.

1960
02:31:45,200 --> 02:31:46,380
Lower income residents,

1961
02:31:47,960 --> 02:31:52,680
renters, people from ethnically diverse communities.

1962
02:31:53,980 --> 02:31:58,100
We don't really hear from them, and we need to reach out in different ways.

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02:31:58,180 --> 02:32:01,380
And that's one of the things that our task collaboration specializes in.

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02:32:02,840 --> 02:32:05,720
And to put it in a technical term, we'll call it intercept conversations.

1965
02:32:06,300 --> 02:32:09,120
But what it really is is people talking to people.

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02:32:10,260 --> 02:32:15,720
So while we want to have, while there's a need to have two public meetings for those folks who want to come to that.

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02:32:15,720 --> 02:32:23,620
And we're recommending that we use budget that would be for a third one to actually have face-to-face conversations with people.

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02:32:24,360 --> 02:32:33,760
That we bump into in casual settings and we have a program that we initiate that I would kind of call it following the breadcrumbs.

1969
02:32:34,120 --> 02:32:41,420
And that's reaching out to regular folks in the community right now when we've already started doing that in communities in neighborhoods all around the city.

1970
02:32:41,420 --> 02:32:43,500
Just saying, hey, there's this code audit thing going on.

1971
02:32:43,640 --> 02:32:46,040
And I know it doesn't sound very interesting, but let me tell you.

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02:32:46,260 --> 02:32:48,380
Here's a couple of the things that it's going to do.

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02:32:48,560 --> 02:32:51,260
Like, you know, the ADU that was just built behind your house.

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And they're like, so we've had people saying, oh, wow, that, but it is interesting.

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02:32:55,960 --> 02:32:57,200
I want to weigh in on that.

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02:32:57,960 --> 02:33:00,860
And so, babe, we already have a handful of people throughout the community.

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02:33:01,000 --> 02:33:03,860
They're saying, when it's time, reach out to us and we'll help you.

1978
02:33:04,640 --> 02:33:08,620
And oftentimes, we get invited to, oh, church coffee hours,

1979
02:33:10,040 --> 02:33:18,800
PTA meetings. Just casual things that's happening in the community. So on the next slide, I believe.

1980
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Oops. Well, you go to key messages. So also with that public talking in terms that they understand and care about.

1981
02:33:28,400 --> 02:33:37,520
One is that there is the need for about a different data out there, but at least 2000 new housing units over the 20 years.

1982
02:33:37,520 --> 02:33:43,020
So for folks who really aren't in favor of middle housing or even more increased density,

1983
02:33:43,480 --> 02:33:46,400
the data shows, there is housing that is needed.

1984
02:33:47,740 --> 02:33:52,860
And thoughtful and strategic planning now can help ensure that we maintain the unique

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02:33:52,860 --> 02:33:55,880
qualities of the neighborhoods while expanding opportunities.

1986
02:33:56,540 --> 02:33:58,100
So that is where people can weigh in.

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The code of amendment decisions that you may can have some influence on those things that

1988
02:34:03,080 --> 02:34:07,500
are already mandated, so to help people understand that and have them weigh in in order

1989
02:34:07,500 --> 02:34:11,940
to protect the character of the community that they values so much will be important.

1990
02:34:13,540 --> 02:34:17,480
Also, on the educational component, you know, middle housing is here to stay.

1991
02:34:18,220 --> 02:34:22,480
I don't think this is the opportunity to let people say that we don't want to do that.

1992
02:34:22,860 --> 02:34:23,500
It's going to happen.

1993
02:34:24,940 --> 02:34:26,680
But we can shape it.

1994
02:34:26,920 --> 02:34:28,660
City can shape it to some extent.

1995
02:34:29,580 --> 02:34:32,760
So on the next slide, I think we just have, it's awfully small.

1996
02:34:32,760 --> 02:34:42,560
but this is kind of an example of specific changes that might come your way and hesitate to even put

1997
02:34:42,560 --> 02:34:47,240
examples. These are just kind of made up of a little bit of an example and there's been a

1998
02:34:47,240 --> 02:34:52,800
lot of discussion about the courtyard in the cottage clusters. This example doesn't talk about

1999
02:34:52,800 --> 02:35:00,600
whether we're talking about easements or tracks, but having just be as simple as a courtyard and

2000
02:35:00,600 --> 02:35:07,180
cottage clusters can improve the appeal of this, and then once you have a proposal,

2001
02:35:07,700 --> 02:35:11,280
like should we mandate tracks or should we let it be an easement or whatever,

2002
02:35:11,520 --> 02:35:16,160
putting that in every day terms and saying, we are thinking this, what do you think?

2003
02:35:16,900 --> 02:35:24,420
And it's just a very simple, hate it, love it, think about it. Also, we are wanting to

2004
02:35:25,260 --> 02:35:30,500
incorporate some of the rezoning for housing, even though it's not part of the code audit project,

2005
02:35:30,500 --> 02:35:34,220
to not overtax the community engagement activities.

2006
02:35:34,960 --> 02:35:37,420
So in ours, when there are very specific proposals,

2007
02:35:37,900 --> 02:35:42,580
like perhaps, changing the zoning in certain underused

2008
02:35:44,320 --> 02:35:48,000
commercial areas for mixed use can provide these benefits.

2009
02:35:48,240 --> 02:35:48,800
What do you think?

2010
02:35:48,940 --> 02:35:50,100
Just very, very casual.

2011
02:35:50,300 --> 02:35:52,220
So they're not reading pages and pages about it.

2012
02:35:52,260 --> 02:35:52,920
They're doing that.

2013
02:35:53,120 --> 02:35:57,300
This isn't gonna give you qualitative facts and figures

2014
02:35:57,300 --> 02:35:59,900
about how many people think this and that,

2015
02:35:59,900 --> 02:36:06,800
but it gives you a sense of what the community members think and feel that aren't weighing in in

2016
02:36:06,800 --> 02:36:13,080
in other ways. And also, whether that input will be different than the input of the folks that

2017
02:36:13,080 --> 02:36:18,980
are giving input in the traditional ways, what it does do is show the residents of your community

2018
02:36:20,240 --> 02:36:25,660
that you care about their opinion. You're going above and beyond not just having a public hearing

2019
02:36:25,660 --> 02:36:32,380
their public meeting, but really want their input, it will expand that outreach, and hopefully

2020
02:36:32,380 --> 02:36:37,320
introduce a whole new group of people to the beginnings of civic engagement.

2021
02:36:39,160 --> 02:36:44,420
So, I don't think you can see, but the proposing a little card, it's funny, we're just

2022
02:36:44,420 --> 02:36:46,900
talking in the last session about a postcard.

2023
02:36:47,260 --> 02:36:52,280
So we also, in this intercept conversations, would it just approach, I'm gonna say, hey, you

2024
02:36:52,280 --> 02:36:53,160
know what this is going on?

2025
02:36:53,160 --> 02:36:58,820
And here's a QR code, and in the past we've had good luck with having people right there

2026
02:36:58,820 --> 02:37:01,420
go, oh, let me scan it and see, kind of walk through it.

2027
02:37:01,580 --> 02:37:04,160
If they're not really interested, we'll just give them the card and go.

2028
02:37:04,580 --> 02:37:09,920
But the terms, the expressions would be casual, colloquial, and friendly in order to engage

2029
02:37:09,920 --> 02:37:11,400
a whole new group of folks.

2030
02:37:15,570 --> 02:37:16,310
That's my update.

2031
02:37:17,170 --> 02:37:20,650
And well, as I mentioned, I have time for questions if you want to get more into that.

2032
02:37:20,650 --> 02:37:25,750
In terms of next steps, as Karen mentioned, we're meeting with the neighborhood chairs coalition,

2033
02:37:25,750 --> 02:37:29,970
next Saturday. I will be presenting to the Planning Commission on the

2034
02:37:30,000 --> 02:37:35,440
Twenty-eight, and then taking the inputs from those conversations into the final public involvement strategy.

2035
02:37:36,260 --> 02:37:44,180
And so September kind of wraps up our initial task, this background reviewed, initial review, and then as Evan mentioned, we'd get into the nitty-gritty of the code audit.

2036
02:37:44,560 --> 02:37:52,880
And we will be coming back to you with some questions about how you'd like us to approach the action plan that we're putting together as we go through that process.

2037
02:37:54,460 --> 02:37:59,820
And questions for you all, really generally, do you have any questions about the initial

2038
02:37:59,820 --> 02:38:04,820
findings of the background report and the review and any comments your suggestions about

2039
02:38:04,820 --> 02:38:07,860
what current described in terms of the public involvement strategy?

2040
02:38:09,620 --> 02:38:14,160
Okay, right, thank you all very much for the presentation so nice to get to meet the two of

2041
02:38:14,160 --> 02:38:14,780
you.

2042
02:38:14,780 --> 02:38:29,820
Thank you for bringing them in and this is a, you know, you did a nice job outlining because we have kind of several things going on here all in one and see how you can make it a little confusing and add a break it up between, you know, our

2043
02:38:29,820 --> 02:38:34,940
the reason project is code on it, project these economic development, type of, and then different

2044
02:38:34,940 --> 02:38:39,160
plans they're interfacing with, and production strategy is kind of our economic development,

2045
02:38:39,220 --> 02:38:41,400
we have our new economic development, kind of strategy.

2046
02:38:42,240 --> 02:38:47,920
Then we're going to hear about here more and we're adopting October, and then learning about how we will

2047
02:38:47,920 --> 02:38:52,420
engage with the community on that, really appreciate what the philosophy of your firm,

2048
02:38:52,420 --> 02:38:55,500
caring and what you guys are great at, because that is the big challenge.

2049
02:38:55,500 --> 02:39:05,980
you know, is getting for especially on a topic like this, you know, so my colleagues have questions come it says Councillor and Boop we will start with you.

2050
02:39:08,330 --> 02:39:15,170
The only I know this is a big job, but and we are working if I like.

2051
02:39:15,170 --> 02:39:43,380
I look at this a little bit late, we are working on a grant, right, and the grant, and the problem I have is, I don't know if I can, there's someone who is who disagree on our zoning and there's something going on and people will most likely challenge this thing like when we finish, they're going to challenge it, there will be

2052
02:39:43,380 --> 02:39:51,200
a pill and stuff. So do you think that the timeline on February 28th like when it ends

2053
02:39:51,200 --> 02:39:57,780
the grant and the submission like there is that time because people will challenge when they

2054
02:39:57,780 --> 02:40:05,580
challenge it what we are going to do? That was one of my questions and if you come this one and

2055
02:40:05,580 --> 02:40:10,860
my second question. I can do it. I don't think you have to be concerned about

2056
02:40:12,200 --> 02:40:15,800
This is in a land use issue that can be appealed to Luba.

2057
02:40:16,080 --> 02:40:18,560
This is going to change the law, the code.

2058
02:40:19,200 --> 02:40:24,480
And that's not going to be affected by what's currently underway in Luba.

2059
02:40:24,860 --> 02:40:25,420
Thank you.

2060
02:40:25,560 --> 02:40:27,640
I'm just, I was worried about that.

2061
02:40:28,320 --> 02:40:33,820
And just like today, we had a legislative public hearing for the micro mobility devices.

2062
02:40:33,940 --> 02:40:39,060
We would have the same thing when these code amendments are proposed in 2020.

2063
02:40:39,060 --> 02:40:43,400
So people who are dissatisfied, we'll have an opportunity to come and testify.

2064
02:40:43,540 --> 02:40:45,640
That's the fight, okay, and it's good.

2065
02:40:46,080 --> 02:40:52,920
So the other thing is just like, people like me, like when we talk the language of overlay of,

2066
02:40:52,920 --> 02:41:00,140
which is even like, for me, when like, oh, this neighborhood have this overlay, this

2067
02:41:00,140 --> 02:41:06,920
as a one has, and I'm trying to have lost because I'm not in construction, I don't know,

2068
02:41:06,920 --> 02:41:12,760
And that's why I would like, if you were asking us what to do to have like,

2069
02:41:12,760 --> 02:41:19,880
Concrete questions, like say, do you want the overlay to be removed in, like,

2070
02:41:19,960 --> 02:41:25,280
those of question, those would be very helpful for a person like me because I'm a

2071
02:41:25,280 --> 02:41:26,480
layperson on this.

2072
02:41:27,180 --> 02:41:27,300
Mm-hmm.

2073
02:41:27,540 --> 02:41:27,860
Absolutely.

2074
02:41:28,040 --> 02:41:33,060
When we come back to you, we'll have some concepts that will have developed and

2075
02:41:33,060 --> 02:41:39,980
want to get your input basically how far do we go you know because there are a number of different

2076
02:41:39,980 --> 02:41:46,140
ways that the city can pursue removing barriers and some of them are mandates but a lot of them

2077
02:41:46,140 --> 02:41:51,360
aren't so there are a lot of decision points that will be coming up that will be wanting to talk to you

2078
02:41:51,360 --> 02:41:56,160
and to your point asking pretty specific questions about how we should proceed.

2079
02:41:56,160 --> 02:42:03,360
Other than that, thank you, it was, I was, they happy to read all of these, and yeah, thank you.

2080
02:42:04,260 --> 02:42:11,860
Well, similar to a council group I was saying there might be other categories, but it really would be helpful to understand what is kind of legally required.

2081
02:42:12,940 --> 02:42:21,360
And what is administrative, you know, kind of more like policy neutral, and then what is discretionary policy change.

2082
02:42:22,400 --> 02:42:26,900
other category but that would be because I mean some of this I know is it cleaned up and

2083
02:42:26,900 --> 02:42:31,680
then some of it is we have no choice and then we're to really identify for the council

2084
02:42:31,680 --> 02:42:33,860
with the actual decision points I would be.

2085
02:42:33,920 --> 02:42:37,440
And if must may, should I say, yeah, absolutely.

2086
02:42:38,640 --> 02:42:38,680
Yes.

2087
02:42:38,680 --> 02:42:39,180
Councilor Afghan.

2088
02:42:39,900 --> 02:42:41,100
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

2089
02:42:41,980 --> 02:42:42,980
These are comments.

2090
02:42:43,680 --> 02:42:45,680
We don't have to debate them.

2091
02:42:47,260 --> 02:42:53,420
I read a lot of overlays, and I also saw in your presentation about hybrid.

2092
02:42:58,150 --> 02:43:00,230
Let's be kind to the overlay.

2093
02:43:01,890 --> 02:43:08,790
They were there for a reason, and they are going to be issues coming up that we don't

2094
02:43:08,790 --> 02:43:13,730
have a choice, because of the new legislative, we have to cross those out, black and white.

2095
02:43:13,730 --> 02:43:22,050
But they were there for a reason, and if I look at some of the conversations I've had,

2096
02:43:22,390 --> 02:43:26,950
they were there, so the neighborhood character is preserved.

2097
02:43:28,830 --> 02:43:33,670
And we know that there hasn't been a lot of new construction to every neighborhood that

2098
02:43:33,670 --> 02:43:40,810
has had overlays, and nobody came here and said, this overlay caused me to do X, Y, and Z.

2099
02:43:40,810 --> 02:43:49,150
I know Councillor Wetland can bring up some examples, but my thinking is that let's be kind

2100
02:43:49,150 --> 02:43:51,870
to the overlays because of a specific reason.

2101
02:43:52,390 --> 02:44:01,830
On the hybrid, I don't know where we're going with that conversation, I support businesses

2102
02:44:01,830 --> 02:44:08,470
in homes, but I don't know if I want to see a storefront all of a sudden in a neighborhood showing

2103
02:44:08,470 --> 02:44:09,310
up.

2104
02:44:09,310 --> 02:44:15,110
And I think those are the conversations that I'm sure you will have with general public.

2105
02:44:16,170 --> 02:44:22,370
On their stakeholders, I'm thinking at school district we need to talk with them

2106
02:44:22,710 --> 02:44:28,750
because there is school district and there are the large property owners also. And maybe also

2107
02:44:28,750 --> 02:44:34,250
Chamber of Commerce. We're talking to the brokers who are in the real estate business,

2108
02:44:34,250 --> 02:44:40,270
but Chamber of Commerce from a business point of view may have some ideas also.

2109
02:44:41,030 --> 02:44:42,670
Thank you.

2110
02:44:42,990 --> 02:44:45,670
Councillor F. Can't count some answers for you.

2111
02:44:49,330 --> 02:44:50,590
Thank you for the presentation.

2112
02:44:51,970 --> 02:44:57,550
If I'm not mistaken, we've gone through some iteration of this in the past.

2113
02:44:57,690 --> 02:44:59,970
Obviously not to this degree.

2114
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:19,360
And not with these issues. But what is the number one issue that you see inputting this together, as far as our stakeholders are concerned?

2115
02:45:20,760 --> 02:45:26,960
I think the common theme is not that we should get rid of all the overlays or any of those

2116
02:45:26,960 --> 02:45:32,380
things, but it's just really really really hard to find the information you're looking

2117
02:45:32,380 --> 02:45:38,040
for, and it's really hard to figure out all of these different layers interact, and it's

2118
02:45:38,040 --> 02:45:43,620
really easy to get things wrong, and so I think both on the city's staff side and on the

2119
02:45:43,620 --> 02:45:47,540
development community side, they want to do the right thing, it's just hard for them

2120
02:45:47,540 --> 02:45:52,860
find what that is. So I think that's the biggest one. Okay, and the neighborhood overlates

2121
02:45:52,860 --> 02:46:00,220
are not disappearing per se or is that legislated? We're not suggesting certainly not at this point

2122
02:46:00,220 --> 02:46:05,380
and probably not ever that they go away entirely, but you have situations where for instance,

2123
02:46:05,640 --> 02:46:12,540
a number of different overlays regulate the same thing like the amount of hard scape on a property,

2124
02:46:12,540 --> 02:46:17,480
But it's worded slightly differently and the numbers are slightly different.

2125
02:46:17,740 --> 02:46:22,180
Like there are opportunities I think to retain the intent behind these neighborhood overlays,

2126
02:46:22,720 --> 02:46:28,500
but to simplify it rather than having the same requirement stated multiple different times,

2127
02:46:28,740 --> 02:46:30,080
just to have it in one place.

2128
02:46:30,400 --> 02:46:31,860
So that's what we're looking for.

2129
02:46:32,600 --> 02:46:36,280
Looking for opportunities to kind of clean them up without,

2130
02:46:37,940 --> 02:46:41,520
while continuing to acknowledge the purpose of the overlay in the first place,

2131
02:46:41,520 --> 02:46:44,840
which is to protect neighborhood character.

2132
02:46:45,880 --> 02:46:49,640
And in neighborhoods that have no overlay,

2133
02:46:50,040 --> 02:46:57,500
our eclectic have no sidewalks or sporadic sidewalks.

2134
02:46:57,660 --> 02:47:05,040
How will that be impacted by any of the work that you're doing

2135
02:47:05,040 --> 02:47:09,020
is that a part of it, or not necessarily?

2136
02:47:09,020 --> 02:47:15,520
It could be some of what we're looking at our development standards that apply to all residential zones,

2137
02:47:15,740 --> 02:47:18,580
for instance, step-back, floor area ratios, things of that nature.

2138
02:47:18,820 --> 02:47:21,800
So it could affect neighborhoods even without overlays.

2139
02:47:22,040 --> 02:47:26,240
Things like sidewalks tend to be part of public works,

2140
02:47:26,640 --> 02:47:27,660
or standards things like that.

2141
02:47:27,740 --> 02:47:29,360
We probably won't get to that too much.

2142
02:47:29,600 --> 02:47:30,120
Okay, good.

2143
02:47:30,120 --> 02:47:35,700
But I think, you know, the code updates will affect the entire city.

2144
02:47:35,700 --> 02:47:41,480
so that's a really important reason for Karen's approach to make sure that people who wouldn't

2145
02:47:41,480 --> 02:47:47,280
normally care are aware that, you know, this is going to touch their lives in some way.

2146
02:47:47,840 --> 02:47:50,440
Perfect. Thank you so much. And thank you for all the good work.

2147
02:47:51,080 --> 02:47:56,220
Awesome. Just a follow on one thing that fall upon some of the councilman's mentioned.

2148
02:47:57,960 --> 02:48:02,620
I noted in the report, you know, one of the barriers listed was, you know, right away

2149
02:48:02,620 --> 02:48:09,640
and infrastructure requirements, but we find those are very important to be able to develop safe infrastructure.

2150
02:48:11,280 --> 02:48:15,460
So I just did not like that it was even listed as, and I didn't know if that was.

2151
02:48:15,500 --> 02:48:26,800
I think that the issue wasn't so much to bake this as that there are some areas of the community development code that address the same requirements as public work standards or infrastructure codes.

2152
02:48:26,800 --> 02:48:29,220
And there's some confusion that comes from that,

2153
02:48:29,380 --> 02:48:32,100
like the CDC includes stormwater requirements,

2154
02:48:32,400 --> 02:48:35,740
which are also in other documents and regulations.

2155
02:48:36,440 --> 02:48:38,200
So it's less about the fact that people

2156
02:48:38,200 --> 02:48:39,880
have to provide infrastructure,

2157
02:48:40,240 --> 02:48:41,300
I agree that's critical.

2158
02:48:42,200 --> 02:48:44,980
But more about it can be difficult to understand

2159
02:48:44,980 --> 02:48:47,580
what rules apply when they are located

2160
02:48:47,580 --> 02:48:48,980
in several different places.

2161
02:48:49,420 --> 02:48:50,580
OK, that makes good sense.

2162
02:48:50,680 --> 02:48:52,820
Thank you for clarifying that.

2163
02:48:52,820 --> 02:49:11,360
I've been waiting for this project for a long time, I think, almost forever and I guess my overarching part is to keep like us we go character while really simplifying the complexity.

2164
02:49:12,220 --> 02:49:27,380
And I like, I love your reporting and your slides because I think you're exactly right that we have so many things that have been developed over so many decades that they're good for the time.

2165
02:49:27,680 --> 02:49:33,240
And then somebody else had somewhat of the same idea and added it ten years later and then somewhat the same idea.

2166
02:49:33,240 --> 02:49:38,560
And so there's three or four things in there that say the same thing, but they're all different.

2167
02:49:38,940 --> 02:49:44,040
And so, cleaning it all up is, I think, a huge challenge.

2168
02:49:44,140 --> 02:49:51,820
And I think it's going to make life for the person that is interacting with project,

2169
02:49:53,160 --> 02:49:55,120
so much more efficient, and so much better.

2170
02:49:55,120 --> 02:49:57,820
So I'm super excited about that.

2171
02:49:59,740 --> 02:50:07,340
I agree that our chapter 50 is very clunky and confusing.

2172
02:50:08,900 --> 02:50:12,880
Now to the experts in city hall, it makes total sense.

2173
02:50:14,080 --> 02:50:16,040
But the question is how long have

2174
02:50:16,040 --> 02:50:18,420
ended it take you to master chapter 50?

2175
02:50:18,420 --> 02:50:20,360
It took probably a while, right?

2176
02:50:20,640 --> 02:50:21,600
I'm not sure if I have.

2177
02:50:21,860 --> 02:50:24,040
Oh yeah, right, right.

2178
02:50:24,040 --> 02:50:27,380
Yeah, it's, you learn things new about it all the time.

2179
02:50:27,780 --> 02:50:28,160
Right, yeah.

2180
02:50:28,480 --> 02:50:31,840
And I'm hoping my hope for this whole project,

2181
02:50:31,920 --> 02:50:35,680
is that while you still have to be a professional

2182
02:50:35,680 --> 02:50:38,240
probably to read it, because I don't think

2183
02:50:38,240 --> 02:50:40,580
the normal person can ever read city code,

2184
02:50:40,680 --> 02:50:42,540
regardless of what chapter we're reading.

2185
02:50:43,140 --> 02:50:47,700
But the big picture is that it helps our planners

2186
02:50:47,700 --> 02:50:52,420
to become more efficient, and it helps our community members

2187
02:50:52,420 --> 02:50:57,420
who are working with planning to be clear and objective.

2188
02:50:58,420 --> 02:51:00,000
So that's my big thing.

2189
02:51:01,000 --> 02:51:05,460
I think on the communication part, we've been dealing with this

2190
02:51:05,460 --> 02:51:08,280
as a council for a long time.

2191
02:51:08,660 --> 02:51:14,180
And I think we've been, I think the overarching message

2192
02:51:14,180 --> 02:51:18,820
which you've probably been told is that we don't want this,

2193
02:51:18,920 --> 02:51:21,140
we don't want that, and we say, well, unfortunately,

2194
02:51:21,140 --> 02:51:28,280
we have a state mandate that says we have to. Well, you're the city council fix it. So in gathering

2195
02:51:28,280 --> 02:51:35,400
your information it's the what our mayor said what we what can we control versus the state law

2196
02:51:35,400 --> 02:51:43,620
and to have that super clear so that we are giving you good input instead of just complaining which

2197
02:51:45,180 --> 02:51:50,140
we don't complain in like us we just give advice so that's kind of what we do.

2198
02:51:51,500 --> 02:52:02,900
And then, the big, I guess question is, is there going to be like one author to start at the beginning and write a new chapter of 50?

2199
02:52:03,760 --> 02:52:06,240
Or is it, who's going to actually writing the code?

2200
02:52:06,460 --> 02:52:13,840
Because I look at it sort of as in biblical terms where there's 42 chapters, whatever, all different authors and whatever.

2201
02:52:13,840 --> 02:52:23,660
I mean, I just want to make sure that it's a well-written device so will you be writing

2202
02:52:23,660 --> 02:52:29,740
the code and we prove it is it's all on poor Evan Shoulders, I mean I hope not.

2203
02:52:30,000 --> 02:52:36,980
How's that going to work? So, there is a team of us, and so we will be working on the code updates.

2204
02:52:37,400 --> 02:52:45,400
But the ultimate code provisions will be in one voice and consistent internally. We do have team members

2205
02:52:45,400 --> 02:52:51,340
who are specifically focused on urban design, so they'll be looking at design standards and things

2206
02:52:51,340 --> 02:52:56,220
of that nature and writing that part. But we're all going to be working very closely together, and the ultimate

2207
02:52:56,220 --> 02:53:02,340
product will be internally consistent and thoroughly reviewed. But it would be a big job

2208
02:53:02,340 --> 02:53:07,760
I have to say for one person to. Yeah. And then I don't know really how you're going to

2209
02:53:07,760 --> 02:53:12,900
approve this as you go through in chunks. I mean it's it's going to be an interesting process

2210
02:53:13,480 --> 02:53:18,860
and I just give my future colleagues just all kinds of accolades for getting to deal with this next

2211
02:53:23,160 --> 02:53:25,260
But the big picture, I guess,

2212
02:53:27,340 --> 02:53:39,380
is I mean, if I could write the rulebook on this, is that, I mean, getting the input from community members is always kind of our secret sauce and like us, we go, I mean, there's a lot of engaged people and whatever.

2213
02:53:39,380 --> 02:53:50,780
But when it gets down to really defining what we want, it's the fine art of writing that we're going to have the need to keep this character.

2214
02:53:52,500 --> 02:53:55,440
And I can't speak for the castle, I'll speak for me.

2215
02:53:55,680 --> 02:53:57,860
I mean, it's like to the state.

2216
02:53:58,200 --> 02:54:03,160
I mean, I'm like, they've shunned a lot of stuff down our throats.

2217
02:54:03,160 --> 02:54:12,860
We actually took the deliberate process for three years to go through to do our own plan which a lot of cities didn't because we care so much about like us

2218
02:54:12,860 --> 02:54:19,020
We go and all the work before us of people really making the character of like us

2219
02:54:19,020 --> 02:54:25,200
We go the character of like us we go and we've got a great thing going here and so we're trying to maintain that and so

2220
02:54:26,320 --> 02:54:32,620
Having the the grace this councilor afghan said maybe for overlays, but maybe instead of 52 we have five

2221
02:54:32,620 --> 02:54:37,780
I don't know, whatever, I'm not saying, but simplifying it, but get it so that we do have the

2222
02:54:37,780 --> 02:54:44,220
ability to be like us, we go, and I don't want the cookie cutter approach.

2223
02:54:44,840 --> 02:54:53,000
We've spent way too much time to not be the cookie cutter and just take the downstream force

2224
02:54:53,000 --> 02:54:56,020
of Salem to us.

2225
02:54:56,020 --> 02:55:01,660
We spent the time to fight back, and we're still willing to fight back, and I think

2226
02:55:01,660 --> 02:55:06,780
Councils are willing to split the time we effort into making sure that we have as much

2227
02:55:06,780 --> 02:55:13,140
as we can and then maybe some to maintain like us we go so anyway.

2228
02:55:13,880 --> 02:55:19,780
I think your outline of exactly what you're doing is spot on from somebody who knows nothing

2229
02:55:19,780 --> 02:55:21,920
about planning so anyway.

2230
02:55:22,320 --> 02:55:23,580
Thanks Councillor Woodland.

2231
02:55:24,040 --> 02:55:31,580
I mean it's a good point here thinking about some of the objectives and goals of this work

2232
02:55:31,580 --> 02:55:33,740
And we've just been talking about the overlay.

2233
02:55:34,080 --> 02:55:35,000
So I use that as an example.

2234
02:55:35,220 --> 02:55:36,920
So once upon a time, the community

2235
02:55:36,920 --> 02:55:39,100
thought it's a great idea to do these overlays.

2236
02:55:40,080 --> 02:55:43,700
But some of the feedback, as unique as the community is,

2237
02:55:43,820 --> 02:55:46,400
that we have heard from people, we just have a few people

2238
02:55:46,400 --> 02:55:48,060
building all the same houses.

2239
02:55:48,860 --> 02:55:51,520
So it's like, well, is that what we intended with the overlay,

2240
02:55:51,560 --> 02:55:53,000
probably not?

2241
02:55:54,820 --> 02:55:57,000
And because of the complications of the code,

2242
02:55:57,200 --> 02:56:00,240
it blocks out people who could come build in the community

2243
02:56:00,240 --> 02:56:01,740
because they just just too complicated.

2244
02:56:02,020 --> 02:56:03,140
So you have folks who specialize,

2245
02:56:03,220 --> 02:56:04,480
and this is not unique to L.O.,

2246
02:56:04,480 --> 02:56:06,320
they specialize, they're working L.O.,

2247
02:56:06,320 --> 02:56:07,640
they work in Westland, they work into one.

2248
02:56:07,640 --> 02:56:09,060
They just know that code really well,

2249
02:56:09,480 --> 02:56:10,700
and then they build what they build,

2250
02:56:10,840 --> 02:56:12,580
which is kind of like the same thing.

2251
02:56:14,060 --> 02:56:15,160
So, and there are good people, you know,

2252
02:56:15,220 --> 02:56:17,600
and all that is not in the shade on them,

2253
02:56:18,840 --> 02:56:20,680
but it is worthwhile to maybe,

2254
02:56:20,680 --> 02:56:22,660
like at the time to say what are our goals

2255
02:56:22,660 --> 02:56:24,460
with these overlays, and then at some point in time,

2256
02:56:24,700 --> 02:56:26,800
maybe now to look at, are we meeting those goals

2257
02:56:26,800 --> 02:56:27,380
with the overlay?

2258
02:56:27,620 --> 02:56:29,780
Or are they actually maybe working against us

2259
02:56:29,780 --> 02:56:31,720
a little bit like if we want unique housing types,

2260
02:56:31,940 --> 02:56:34,080
is that are we getting unique designs,

2261
02:56:34,380 --> 02:56:40,320
are we kind of channeled this into kind of the one-size-fits-all

2262
02:56:40,320 --> 02:56:41,860
because that's kind of what we end up getting

2263
02:56:41,860 --> 02:56:43,140
because it's so complicated like,

2264
02:56:43,260 --> 02:56:44,460
well, I'm not going to mess with it.

2265
02:56:44,520 --> 02:56:45,340
I'm just going to build this thing.

2266
02:56:45,460 --> 02:56:46,260
I know it works.

2267
02:56:46,440 --> 02:56:49,180
It's a LOCO compliant and a chunk to chunk to chunk.

2268
02:56:50,440 --> 02:56:53,000
So when we do this work, I think similarly,

2269
02:56:53,520 --> 02:56:57,880
it is worth looking at what are goals and objectives

2270
02:56:57,880 --> 02:56:59,120
and how can we measure that?

2271
02:56:59,120 --> 02:57:04,680
So they down the road, like we'll go through the work of engaging with the community and making

2272
02:57:04,680 --> 02:57:05,240
these revisions.

2273
02:57:05,420 --> 02:57:08,520
But then down the road, a future council can look at this and say, okay, are these things

2274
02:57:08,520 --> 02:57:09,520
working as intended?

2275
02:57:10,300 --> 02:57:13,860
And some of this, again, because we have these different goals that we are trying to meet

2276
02:57:13,860 --> 02:57:14,060
here.

2277
02:57:14,060 --> 02:57:15,560
So we have our housing production strategy.

2278
02:57:16,820 --> 02:57:21,760
Very quantifiable is in rezoning, we can rezone to provide X number.

2279
02:57:21,940 --> 02:57:26,620
We could say this rezoned would allow this X number of housing units great.

2280
02:57:26,620 --> 02:57:31,780
Okay, and then we have a production strategy that sets some targets and whatnot, and that's just a piece of that overall strategy.

2281
02:57:32,360 --> 02:57:38,220
And then when we look at these code, the code audit, are we trying to, you know, do we have like time metrics?

2282
02:57:38,460 --> 02:57:44,580
I mean, we heard feedback by least on the staff level that actually, they feel like the permitting process is pretty smooth, you know,

2283
02:57:45,020 --> 02:57:48,760
and that they are turning permits around the biggest problem is just incomplete applications.

2284
02:57:49,360 --> 02:57:55,820
So are we trying to reduce the number of incomplete applications by making the code simpler as that reason for the incomplete?

2285
02:57:55,820 --> 02:57:59,540
I don't know, it would just be good to set some of these metrics, so then down the road we can say,

2286
02:57:59,660 --> 02:58:06,800
hey, we spent Metro's great money, which is, you know, our money, our tax money, and it was a

2287
02:58:06,800 --> 02:58:12,180
good exercise, because we streamlined the code, but it did, it also met these metrics that we were

2288
02:58:12,180 --> 02:58:18,480
trying, you know, to, to, to gauge the work against. So that would be a helpful thing, I think, to

2289
02:58:18,480 --> 02:58:24,280
kind of set that from the outlet, what are our goals in regards to these different parts of this

2290
02:58:24,280 --> 02:58:29,620
overall audit. And when are we going to, how can we measure them? And some of it not

2291
02:58:29,620 --> 02:58:34,520
all everything is quantifiable, but to the best of our ability, I think that would be helpful

2292
02:58:34,520 --> 02:58:37,720
in general, because we all like accountability in this work, so we're not just doing it,

2293
02:58:37,760 --> 02:58:42,680
because it was a thing to do. And we see this like in housing production, right? Nationwide housing

2294
02:58:42,680 --> 02:58:46,140
shortage, what's everyone doing? Oh, well, we're going to streamline the code. That's great,

2295
02:58:46,520 --> 02:58:52,820
because it's like a thing that everyone can do, but is it actually producing more housing? I mean,

2296
02:58:52,820 --> 02:58:53,900
It's not bad, it's true.

2297
02:58:54,000 --> 02:58:54,720
And code is a great thing.

2298
02:58:54,860 --> 02:58:58,080
We all agree with that, but then what is actually going to produce, and a lot of that's

2299
02:58:58,080 --> 02:59:01,960
outside of our control, which is actually such a big question, that's why everyone just

2300
02:59:01,960 --> 02:59:06,980
goes to these little things, oh well, let's do away with this, so let's do away with public

2301
02:59:06,980 --> 02:59:07,300
input.

2302
02:59:07,640 --> 02:59:13,460
But those are not really the things that are standing in the way of housing, and then especially

2303
02:59:13,460 --> 02:59:18,420
with regards to public input, it's just undercutting people's faith in government, and I think

2304
02:59:18,420 --> 02:59:23,820
going to have, it has the opposite, the fact that people find other ways to stand against

2305
02:59:23,820 --> 02:59:27,180
these, such a bringing people along and understand how these can be really positive changes

2306
02:59:27,180 --> 02:59:28,200
for the community.

2307
02:59:29,840 --> 02:59:38,920
So, a lot of challenges, but I think that we can, I mean, we always try to always try to

2308
02:59:38,920 --> 02:59:45,940
validate that faith people have in the local government process by, and demonstrating that

2309
02:59:45,940 --> 02:59:49,260
trust by being accountable to the things that we're doing.

2310
02:59:49,460 --> 02:59:51,400
So this is a great, great project, complicated.

2311
02:59:52,040 --> 02:59:55,660
I think that we can set those goals and desire it outcomes.

2312
02:59:56,680 --> 02:59:59,980
And then a timeline at which to kind of look and review them, it would be.

2313
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:05,120
And even looking back on some things we've done before. I can have these been effective.

2314
03:00:07,440 --> 03:00:26,040
And then involving, I guess I'm am curious how this work on economic development. How will that, this kind of, this is kind of code related stuff, and it tying it into like then our upcoming economic development work plan a little bit. Is it kind of fit in there?

2315
03:00:26,760 --> 03:00:45,940
That's our understanding. So we're focused on the code piece. There's a lot of other components, like the sign code, like permitting building permits that are going to be outside the scope, but we're going to do what we can to make sure for instance the desired business types of people would like to see that those are uses that are permitted and the commercial sounds, things of that nature.

2316
03:00:46,600 --> 03:00:53,040
And if there is a certain kind of tenant improvement that's triggering land use review frequently, maybe we want to look at

2317
03:00:53,040 --> 03:01:00,700
you know changing the thresholds or something of that nature. We haven't gotten too deep into that yet, but that will be part of our next.

2318
03:01:01,680 --> 03:01:07,540
But you mentioned this like hype. So there's just types of businesses that aren't found in the use table.

2319
03:01:08,340 --> 03:01:22,000
There are, and there's some flexibility for, after interpret or the director to interpret, but there are also just emerging business models or businesses that include two types of pieces that are struggle to define.

2320
03:01:22,000 --> 03:01:27,820
And that goes from the use all the way through SDC charges, what are we classifying this for

2321
03:01:27,820 --> 03:01:29,640
it's a development charges, things like that.

2322
03:01:29,920 --> 03:01:35,660
I think we have some zones too that really restrict the type of business and it's not really

2323
03:01:35,660 --> 03:01:39,320
logical because it's supposed to like for instance a zone that's supposed to be less intense,

2324
03:01:39,480 --> 03:01:43,320
but it allows them more tense, it doesn't allow, but less intense.

2325
03:01:43,320 --> 03:01:46,160
I don't know who came up with the list, but there's some of that.

2326
03:01:46,360 --> 03:01:47,160
Isn't that?

2327
03:01:47,160 --> 03:01:49,100
Well, we've found that even though we could downtown.

2328
03:01:49,100 --> 03:01:50,740
It was an idea.

2329
03:01:51,340 --> 03:01:53,560
Well, we found that downtown at Lake New Village.

2330
03:01:53,680 --> 03:01:55,540
I mean, we as a well, it's going to be this retail center.

2331
03:01:55,820 --> 03:01:57,860
Then, of course, they kept coming over the years and saying,

2332
03:01:58,040 --> 03:02:00,660
well, we can't find these kind of tenants, but we just kept,

2333
03:02:00,880 --> 03:02:02,160
I think at one point, we just said, yeah,

2334
03:02:02,620 --> 03:02:05,240
just, I mean, whoever you can put in there, just like put it in there.

2335
03:02:05,300 --> 03:02:08,000
Well, so do you have future modeling that you're working

2336
03:02:08,000 --> 03:02:11,440
off of commercial development?

2337
03:02:12,320 --> 03:02:16,160
I mean, in the sense of, I mean, used to be a kind of model of saying,

2338
03:02:16,280 --> 03:02:17,560
okay, you have to have this much retail,

2339
03:02:19,960 --> 03:02:27,540
I think we need guidance as a city to say, hey, we need flexible code to take us into the future,

2340
03:02:29,200 --> 03:02:33,480
because there's just not one was the last time that a retail store started.

2341
03:02:34,100 --> 03:02:38,240
I mean, it's we're hoping that we have the retail stores and we're going to stay in business.

2342
03:02:38,560 --> 03:02:39,460
I mean, I'm survived.

2343
03:02:40,420 --> 03:02:48,600
But I don't know, I guess from your expertise in suggesting the types of flexibility, I guess

2344
03:02:48,600 --> 03:02:55,580
in our zoning to make sure that we attract as many businesses we can that would fit the

2345
03:02:55,580 --> 03:02:58,260
right formula of what's to come.

2346
03:02:58,960 --> 03:03:00,780
So if that makes sense.

2347
03:03:01,100 --> 03:03:09,240
We do have a marketing specialist on the team who's been doing a lot of work in like a

2348
03:03:09,240 --> 03:03:14,940
kind of the sweet spot for making sure that you're activating the public realm and all the things that

2349
03:03:14,940 --> 03:03:20,940
the code is trying to do, but also allowing some flexibility for perhaps new types of businesses.

2350
03:03:21,160 --> 03:03:26,380
I think the brick and mortar business world has changed a bit in the rest several years.

2351
03:03:26,380 --> 03:03:34,840
I mean, I know we need a ton more hairstyles, face, faux talks, we need all the, all the, I mean,

2352
03:03:36,500 --> 03:03:50,480
But I'm saying, we've almost become over-inundated with exercise studios, I mean, they're great because the parking lots are full, but it's just trying to figure that part out for us.

2353
03:03:51,320 --> 03:03:57,380
So yeah, we did, and I didn't mention that, but we do have a marketing specialist on the team who's very familiar with the like us we go market.

2354
03:03:57,380 --> 03:03:58,060
That's fine.

2355
03:03:58,800 --> 03:04:04,060
I'm also to guide this work, we're going to put together this ad hoc technical advisory

2356
03:04:04,060 --> 03:04:06,100
stack resolution.

2357
03:04:07,120 --> 03:04:12,980
That's the next thing on the last thing to last request, I must say anybody else wants to

2358
03:04:12,980 --> 03:04:19,580
speak about the project, but yes, we're requesting that you're approved resolution 2652 to

2359
03:04:19,580 --> 03:04:27,900
form an ad hoc, code audit, technical advisory committee, and at the next council, probably

2360
03:04:27,900 --> 03:04:30,640
will be on the consent agenda to assign the members.

2361
03:04:32,160 --> 03:04:33,460
So we're going to work on that.

2362
03:04:33,680 --> 03:04:34,920
We're going to work on that.

2363
03:04:35,120 --> 03:04:35,800
I got ideas.

2364
03:04:36,960 --> 03:04:43,060
Evan, I did want to ask, because as I was mentioning before, it's great we have, I think one of

2365
03:04:44,000 --> 03:04:49,560
the billets on the tack is, you know, for a builder with experience in all of which, of

2366
03:04:49,560 --> 03:04:55,120
sense that it might be good to get someone who doesn't who has been kind of, you know,

2367
03:04:55,340 --> 03:05:02,260
code-coded out of L-O because of, you know, the gospel according to Evan. And, um,

2368
03:05:02,880 --> 03:05:07,600
he has something to do with my fight. Maybe someone familiar. Just to get that perspective

2369
03:05:07,600 --> 03:05:11,840
for some of the works in a different, you know, because we're just going to get, you know,

2370
03:05:11,920 --> 03:05:16,120
there's an element of this that's a little protectionist too, so I think we got to be careful.

2371
03:05:16,120 --> 03:05:19,100
I don't know.

2372
03:05:19,280 --> 03:05:23,720
Yes, we should get together and discuss, maybe there's enough flexibility on there for us.

2373
03:05:24,160 --> 03:05:29,900
Yeah, we can add other members, right now the list is kind of small, but yes, we can

2374
03:05:29,900 --> 03:05:30,740
do that.

2375
03:05:31,040 --> 03:05:34,660
Just don't make it too big that it's a good emotion, yes, that's what we're trying to

2376
03:05:34,660 --> 03:05:35,140
approve it.

2377
03:05:36,180 --> 03:05:44,480
Prove resolution 2652 to form an ad hoc code of it, technical advisory committee.

2378
03:05:44,760 --> 03:05:45,440
That's okay.

2379
03:05:46,380 --> 03:05:51,560
Okay, well, motion made by, okay, councilman's in second with my councilor afghan.

2380
03:05:51,840 --> 03:05:54,080
Is there any further discussion on the tack?

2381
03:05:54,460 --> 03:05:55,800
No, no. Okay, I'll vote some fair to say aye.

2382
03:05:56,160 --> 03:05:56,600
Aye. Aye.

2383
03:05:56,720 --> 03:05:57,200
The opposed.

2384
03:05:57,660 --> 03:05:59,320
Emotion passes seven zero.

2385
03:05:59,560 --> 03:05:59,640
All right.

2386
03:06:00,180 --> 03:06:02,160
Evan Lee, Karen, thank you all very much.

2387
03:06:02,300 --> 03:06:02,800
We really appreciate it.

2388
03:06:02,800 --> 03:06:03,820
Thank you so much. Thank you.

2389
03:06:04,300 --> 03:06:04,700
Thank you.

2390
03:06:04,800 --> 03:06:05,560
Good luck.

2391
03:06:07,000 --> 03:06:08,780
May the force be with you.

2392
03:06:12,190 --> 03:06:14,870
Well, tonight is a notable night.

2393
03:06:15,730 --> 03:06:20,950
because it's a sad night in a way, but a night of gratitude because this is lens

2394
03:06:20,950 --> 03:06:26,930
last meeting with the council. It is not an easy job to come in and serve in a

2395
03:06:26,930 --> 03:06:33,050
temporary position in the city. There's limitations on it. But it's a very important job

2396
03:06:33,050 --> 03:06:40,230
and Lin came into L.O. of course, Lin has been in L.O. It's been very special to have a long

2397
03:06:40,230 --> 03:06:45,330
time, neighbor, like land, someone who's been so engaged at a statewide level at a regional

2398
03:06:45,330 --> 03:06:51,330
level, and a local level for so many years serve in this really critical role and get

2399
03:06:51,330 --> 03:06:56,830
back to the community in this way. And coming out of challenging time, it is never easy

2400
03:06:56,830 --> 03:07:02,690
to come into any organization that's in the middle of a transition at a time where many people

2401
03:07:02,690 --> 03:07:09,190
are learning of that transition right at that moment and come in as the leader. When people

2402
03:07:09,190 --> 03:07:14,230
know that it's time limited to, you know, we all know that those dynamics can be very challenging,

2403
03:07:14,810 --> 03:07:20,150
but Lynn definitely, you did not operate like someone who's only going to be here for six

2404
03:07:20,150 --> 03:07:29,770
months. You really shepherded the organization through this time of change. You brought in so many new

2405
03:07:29,770 --> 03:07:29,970
ideas.

2406
03:07:30,000 --> 03:07:54,720
New energy. New, you did so much community engagement out, meeting with neighbors, meeting with folks in, I mean, of all types, in the business community, dealing with the kind of day-to-day issues of people, I mean, really want you to be at a long time. We heard so much good feedback from folks on you being, yeah, you're so solutions oriented to the problem, so proactive.

2407
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you provided me just individually so much support on the regional things that I do that I

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want to say I never had my time as mayor. So it was so great. I felt like I had the biggest

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expert right in my year and all times. And so I'm really going to miss working with you, but

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just wanted to extend on behalf of the community, our most sincere gratitude to all the

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energy, all the care, and passion you brought with you to this job.

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You've touched this organization in a special way and really prepared us for this

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next transition with Denzel coming in, you set everyone up here for success and I just

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can't thank you enough.

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Honored to come back, but it is also humbling when you are looking at a code audit on things

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that I passed 20 years ago.

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You made these all the ways.

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Apologies for all the overlays.

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That is you.

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We know.

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Everybody's special.

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Everybody's unique.

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It has been an honor.

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I couldn't have done it without your leadership.

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You guys were open and always there and available.

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And I really appreciate that.

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And the staff were just amazing.

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Thank you to all of you who are still here.

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And it has been refreshing to see the level of dedication inside the agency to make the city the amazingness that it is and why we all want to stay here for so long.

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So, thank you, keep doing the good work. I will be cheering from the sidelines. We'll serve on any committee.

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in the future and really look forward to this next phase of like us we go and the

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shepherding that's you're all whether you're here for three four months or whether

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you're back out in the community or you're on council I know that there will be

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shepherding going on to make sure that the big things that y'all started get done.

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So thank you. Thank you for your.

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Thank you.

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You're a leadership.

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I do.

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colleagues?

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Bad?

2441
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I don't know.

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I know we're all eager to go and celebrate when

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after name.

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But first we have an executive session.

2445
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Yeah.

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I'm sure there's people just going out of her.

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03:10:36,280 --> 03:10:37,520
So, Erica, would you like to

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read a sense of executive session please?

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I'd like us to go City Council,

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not meet an executive session under or

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S192.660 sub 2 sub D to conduct deliberations with

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person's designated to carry on labor negotiations and subsection F to consider information

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or records that are exempt by law from public inspection for to pursuant to or S192.660

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subpoor representatives of the news media are excluded from this executive session.

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No final decisions will be made at the end of this session.

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We will adjourn the meeting.

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Thank you very much.

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We are going to conduct the executive session in the side room.

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We will, as Eric mentioned, this will conclude the broadcast portion of the meeting, but

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are going to recess and then what we can be in the side room.