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Please

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stand of America and to the republic for
it stands for one nation under God,

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indivisible with liberty and justice for
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We have a roll call.
>> Yes. Kyle or

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» Joel Quin.
>> Penny Georgovich here. Mary Pitcher

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» here.
>> Maryannne Goodman

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» here.

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On the agenda
entertain a motion to approve.

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» Make the motion we approve. Uh August
it's the agenda.

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for mine. Any discussion? Yes, I want to
add something to it. Okay. It does need

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to get voted. Hold on.

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Um and with the other new business, it's
simply an update of um signers on our

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bank accounts,

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please.
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Anything else?
So,

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the agenda has been amended.
All in favor of the say I

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» I motioned.

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We have the minutes of the July 2nd
meeting.

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Entertain a motion to approve.
Making a motion we approve the July 2nd

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monthly meeting minutes
second by any discussion.

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» All in favor say I.
>> I opposed.

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» Motion carries.
>> Minutes.

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» Did you?
>> No, no, no. Do you have the piece of

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paper with the bank sign or things on
it? Did I give that to you?

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» That's okay. I think it's I think it's
on

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» just looking.
>> I think it's on the desk.

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» It'll be fine. Wait until we get
um financial reports. Mary

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Okay. Sorry. I will slow down and
breathe for a second. Okay. Oh. Uh

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financial reports relief township for
the month ending July 31st, 2026.

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The fire fund. Um, general fund checking
is at $74,57786.

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General fund money market account has
90,353.79.

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Um, CD29 has $34,967.94.

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CD51 is at $17,32326.

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CD44 is at $54,967.33.

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CD11 is at $110,65368.

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Petty cash has $100 in it. Our Michigan
class account is at $36,71054.

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And an IC account with Honor Bank is at
$11,625.94.

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Lake Township money market account at
West Shore has $33,1804

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and the tax account has $100 of the
general fund money for a total in Lake

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Township's general fund of $914,560.38.

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» Go for it.
>> I make a motion that we approve the

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general fund as presented. [laughter]
with that motion by turned by Maryanne.

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Oh, roll call, please.
>> Kyle or

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» hi
>> Mary Pitcher.

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» Hi.
>> Mary and Goodman.

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» Hi.
>> Joel Quin.

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» Hi.
>> Penny George. I

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» We could put all those into one big
account. Maybe.

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» Okay. Lake Township's fire fund for the
month ending July 31st, 2026. Fire fund

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um CD number 37.
63,829.13.

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The money market account is $17,91.96.

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Fire funds Michigan class account is at
$131,40023

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for a total in Lake Township's fire fund
at $33,131.32.

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like to make a motion that we approve
that financial report for the fire on

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treasure small reported

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by or any discussion.
That'll be roll call.

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» Maryian Goodman.
>> Hi.

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» Joel Quin.
>> Hi.

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» Penny Georgovich.
>> I Kyle or

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» Hi.
>> Mary Pitcher. Hi.

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We on the clerk's report.
>> Yeah, we need the clerk's report. How

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much you speak for this? Would you all
hand?

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» Yes. And I'd like to make a motion that
we approve $41,750.50

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for the payment of township accounts
from the general fund.

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» All second
Georgia supported by Goodman. Any

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questions or discussion?
You all looked at the bills in advance.

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We'll be roll call.
>> Joel Kine.

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» Hi.
>> Marian Goodman.

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» Hi.
>> Mary Pitcher.

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» Hi.
>> Kyle Ore.

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» Hi.
>> Penny George.

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» I.

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And I'd like to make a motion that we
approve $2,742.65

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65 cents from the fire fund for the
payment of utilities and repairs.

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» Seconds.

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Any discussion?
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» call.
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» Joel Quine.
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» Maryanne Goodman.
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» Mary Pitcher.
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» Henny Verovich. I

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» That's it.
>> Okay. This time we'll open public input.

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We're accepting input on any of the
items that are on the agenda. There will

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be a second public input at the end of
the meeting for general comments.

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Anybody have anything to say about items
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Hearing none, public input is closed.
And we have a guest Joe Netto is with

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the Benzy County Road Commission and
he's going to talk to us about I don't

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think the word is cost share, is it?
Anyway, funds available to the township

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for road repair and other things.

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» I could take you guys if you would
please just take a copy and past.

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» Sure.

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» My name is Joe. I'm the finance director
to the board of the county road

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commission. Uh Troy asked me to stop in
but he had a very important call

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tonight. So I got into this um
um I want to also Troy isn't as versed

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in the local road matching program like
you know so which I maintain and

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present. So I want to kind of go over
the townships a little bit to give you a

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general idea of how the program works.
Several years ago, our board decided

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that we want to uh elicit fellowship
participations in various road projects

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and they in turn earmarked Michigan
transportation fund dollars on the side

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for this first of all 12 townships. If
you look at the first sheet that I gave

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you,
it shows that distribution in various

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buckets, three years worth. The policy
the board came up with is you can carry

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a three-year average balance of
accumulated funds. If not used, they

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basically revert back into the general
fund. Now, think of these as coupons

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with an expiration date. Not really
money, but a pledge, if you will, to

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spend the dollars that are earmarked for
your township. So Lake Township has

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presently $36,577

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available for matching any kind of
project you may want to do. What I mean

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by matching it can be paving projects,
culvert replacement, signage,

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raveling.
Um except for the brine. The brine

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already take care of 50/50 with you
without affecting this program. So the

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idea is to elicit their township to
participate in maintaining the roads

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within their various distribution into
districts.

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So this is a tool if you will at your
disposal.

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Now normally we ask you give any kind of
projects you may have planned for the

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coming year by December 1st the coming
year so that way we can bid it out and

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get the best prices possible. Um several
townships like Crystal Lake, um Elmyra

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and Benzonia have been using this
program pretty significantly over the

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years and Crystal Crystal Lake is
probably the best one because they

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reliably every year have road projects
that they want but they have a

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millillage as well help that situation.
So again this is a tool at your

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disposal. Now question is how can you
upgrade your roads within your

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territory?
There are two factors you can use. This

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is one of them. Matching fund here we
talked about. And if you go to the next

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sheet after that, there's a program
called the local road committee.

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And what that is, it's the annual
millage that we get. We get about

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a,400,000
per year from the millillage from the

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road dish uh proines. All that amount we
earmark half of that are used for

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upgrading local roads. And the other
half is for the numbered or primary

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those. One year we did Destream Road. Um
last year we kind of bore centered in

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areas because again better price for the
dollar if you get all your projects in

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one area and you command a better price.
So last year you'll see that Fowler

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Road, Grace, Eden Hill, Warden and
Ballard Road. Those are the projects for

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this year. Now on this list you can
participate and we ask the townships to

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come to our meeting every January. We
asked all the townships to show up with

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their staff and this is where you can
add projects or delay projects. Only

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thing you have to be careful of is these
roadways have to be through through

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routes not end destinations. So
subdivisions called the acts they

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wouldn't qualify.
through road

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and we add two items to the list and the
committee decides which project based on

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our engineers recommendations that they
want to do. We have a list A and a list

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B. So the the ones in gray were the
projects that were introduced and plan A

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we did that one for a million dollars
and we had also an alternate plan B. Now

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next year plan B will become plan A.
We'll put more projects for

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consideration.
We try to get the projects to match the

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budget.
Okay, so far so good. Okay, so

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participation is the key. U having
people show up and go over what they

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would like to see happen is huge. Um we
send out normally a blanket email of

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sometime in December, notify November,
December that hey this is the meeting

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coming up any projects let us know. we
can go ahead and give you an estimate

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what it cost. Um there are some
townships that have a lot of paved roads

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and some that don't want to gravel
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We recommend this is a good program as
far as the little cost share the first

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uh sweetener. We want to sweeten the
gravel up in your road. So when you

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apply brine it'll last longer. You put
brine in and sand what happens

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evaporates right through. It doesn't
last very long. So you get a road base

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of road gravel and uh clay. It holds the
brine much better. It's less dusty. So

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again, we asked for consideration. We
asked for your recommendation. What

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would you like to see? This is what your
participation is really all about.

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Now I also the last page is our policy
for local local road program.

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The only thing that we don't participate
in is cleaving of a gravel road.

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That would be up to the township to
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But it's already paid.
We'll match you dollar for dollar on

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this local road fund. So if you have
$36,000 here mark, we'll put in $36,000

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of our own. Now you can go over that if
you want, but our max contribution will

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be $36,500.
You can put as much money in as you

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would like.
Okay. Now, the buckets here 2024,

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25, and 26.
When we get to September 30th, the 2024

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bucket goes away, and the new bucket for
2027 will be added. So, essentially,

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you're going to have the same balance.
Some townships who use it, well, of

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course, will get replenished their
money. Some don't. The reason why we ask

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you give us an idea what you want now
for next year is financial planning.

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Obviously, we're doing a new facility
building and I'm trying to pinch pennies

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the best I can to keep make sure
everything goes according to plan, but

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we do have a detailed plan on how we
want to spend our paving dollars. And

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the millage money of course is separate.
That goes wherever the committee agrees

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we want to go to.
Any questions so far?

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» I have one.
>> Sure.

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» Did I understand you're right when you
said like participation is key? like if

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we can't make it to that meeting because
Lake Township isn't on any of these.

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Yeah. We gave you like $340,000.
But so if we're not if we can't be at

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the meeting, you're not going to our
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» You gave us $340,000.
>> Tax money. Yes. That's what we Lake

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Township paid to the road commission.
>> In what way?

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» Tax dollars. It goes
>> You talk with millage.

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» Yeah.
>> Okay. So mill money again. Again, we

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have a list of programs and if you we
they send invitations out and

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» and if we can't make it, you don't don't
look at any of our roads. I mean, is

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that
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to have an idea. If you have an idea
what you want to have done, you can send

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an email or ask her to meet with Troy or
our staff members. I'd be glad to come

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out
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» Well, if you can't come to the actual if
you talk about the December meeting.

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» Yes.
>> Okay. Can you give an alternative? Maybe

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who can tell?
>> Well, last year I attended but we hadn't

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chosen any projects and at that point it
was too late because we hadn't chosen.

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That was my understanding.
>> Okay. You can always add any project you

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so you know again what we encourage you
if we township do is if you have a

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project you would like to see done
contact our staff members and say hey

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we'd like to see flat road being done
for example. How do we get about we'd

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like to see from point A to point B
paid? What would you give me an idea

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what that would cost? Is that something
you can put on the list? It would be put

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on the list.
>> I think that that's why we invited you

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here today so that we can understand so
that we're ready to submit something

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before December 1st.
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» My question I mean I know there's this
this paser,

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» right?
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» Okay.
So, was there ever a case when you guys

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say, "Hey, you really need to look at
this road, this road, this road, or you

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wanting us to evaluate
>> kind of describing Bonia Township." Um,

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kind [clears throat] of got into that
with that because their roads are all

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their roads are bad and we encourage
them, hey, we like to see this road

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before it completely falls apart. The
key in a road, normally a road last you

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about 20 years and we try to seal coat
them at year eight or nine because

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that'll give you additional 14 years of
service. But the minute they start

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crumbling, it's pretty hard to save
them. And of course, our funding is very

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limited what we can voluntarily do from
our general budget from driven roads. So

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if you have Okay, granted, let's start
now. If you got a bunch of roads you'd

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like to see done, I'm sure I know I
talked to Troy before the meeting.

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Please get a hold of him. Come if you
ask invite him to take a tour with you.

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He can go over with you what roads they
would recommend that you or two might

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want to do.
>> That I mean that's where I

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would be on this list.
>> Yeah. Both.

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» That's this exactly.
>> We can pay for it. I know. But what

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about it coming from the county? You
know, the month come from

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» again this the top one here. This is the
anyone you want. Anything you want to do

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paving this for sure the township money
that that the cost 5050

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» anything you want to represent right
>> the millillage money is based upon input

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this is the road we'd like to see done
we add them to the list and as money

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comes available year by year we add what
fit best fits obviously there's some

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roads here that are pretty expensive
like a half a million dollars to redo

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but if they have smaller road for
example we can make it fit based upon

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the condition of the road the traffic
pattern and everything else

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» so as money allows, you're also doing
repairs above and beyond what we're

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sharing with.
>> It doesn't include on this seal coating.

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We do that on our own,
>> right?

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» We don't do patchwork. We don't do we
don't charge you for that. We do our own

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thing. Um we don't paving, I'm sorry,
plowing, uh grow shoulders, for example,

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mowing the side of the road. That's
something we do in our own.

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And every year I give you a financial
statement that tells you the different

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activities we do by your township. I
don't know if you remember receiving

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that from me. Would have been probably
about two months ago. It breaks it down

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by township, mowing, plowing, uh, uh,
highway painting, grading, all the

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different activities. You see how we
spend our regular routine money in the

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township.
>> I know that we have to come to you on

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when we want we think this road is bad.
What about things like like culverts

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though? I mean, I don't know if a
culvert is bad. Would you guys come to

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us if you knew there was an issue and
said, "Hey, you should consider this

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» failing culvert." Yes.
>> Thank you.

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» A deteriorating culvert. That's a
different story. Benzy County, if you

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notice, is probably river capital of
Michigan. There are rivers and streams

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everywhere with culvert. So, we have
right now we're working in a couple to

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get replaced.
>> So, we just people complain.

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» Well, we actually got our patrol. But we
notice if this happens a lot is over

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time the actual the uh galvanized
material brick will get a hole in the

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pavement and going uh oh what's going on
here? Well over time

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» again we also can tell based upon u
silt that builds up and they plug or

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there's any kind of flooding involved.
Again, we do have an inventory of a

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colors we started about three or four
years ago. And by getting either Tyler

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or uh Scott or Troy over here, he can go
over all these things with you that he

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would recommend that you would want to
consider doing, whether it be culverts

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or sand replacements or graveling a road
or overlaying a road that's cut to

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crumble. He can make that recommendation
based upon what you have here. We would

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love to have that. We are going. Yes.
Okay. We're going to try to let you

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finish your presentation then.
>> Keep going.

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» Questions. We'll
>> keep asking.

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» What question you got?
>> No, I'm good for now.

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» Did you have more to present?
>> Well, yes. The last one I have is the

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actual policy. I don't know if I didn't
see we have all this information, by the

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way, on our web page. www.bcdcrc.org.
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All this information there. of this
right here.

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Well, then have it. Why don't you have
my copy here?

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» Missing it. Thank you very much.
>> No, I'm fine.

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» Here's an extra
>> part of our policies is just to go over

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and define what we actually request, how
we actually maintain these things and

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that lays out the whole process of local
road systems for you. So use as a

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template that uh policy is online at our
web page how that goes about how you can

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go about petitioning the road commission
to make improvements. But I think the

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real thing what needs to happen is to
start is calling Troy and ask hey can we

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set a little appointment with you to go
over what you think we should do for

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different areas of culverts road paving.
What would you like us to see?

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Okay, that's a start. What level you
want to go to is totally up to you, but

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he can give you an idea, an outline what
items you want to let you look at. Um,

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most township townships don't because
again, they just don't have the money.

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Some of them do. Some have a lot of road
projects, some don't. We just recently

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did some uh signage improvements, a
couple of our key intersections, the

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flashing lights, you notice, that sort
of thing. We again, once something's

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identified to us, we act on them. Our
board is very conscious about safety.

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They're very conscious about responding
to public requests and things like that.

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So again, we don't we can't read the
minds of the town. We need your input

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any way we can. And if you can't, let's
say make the meeting, there's no reason

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why you can't introduce a project now.
Not at all. If you have something you

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might want to put the look for the
village again, long as it's not a dead

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end or subdivision street, it's a
through street, they can be added to

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that list, a mill list and Troy can
develop estimate for you. We can put you

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don't have to be at the meeting to put
it on, but you just let them know you

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want to have that done.
>> So, you mentioned signs. Um, and Troy's

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list mentioned signs as well. Can you
give us an example of what kind of

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signs?
>> Every year the actual standards, Astro

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standards for signs change. The size of
the sign, the stop signs for example,

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changes. Some of the signage faded, hard
to look at, posts are kind of bent over,

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things like that. If you want to go
ahead and make improve your signage for

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bigger size, more safety, you know what
a lollipop is by chance. your sign. It's

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a stop sign with a red reflective post
that we put into it. It's more

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visibility that way. So, if you have an
intersection, it's kind of a problem

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area. It raises the driver's awareness.
There's a stop sign ahead. You can do

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things like stop ahead. You can do uh
rumble strips if you want to. That'll

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get bumpified. Want to replace the sign,
all the stop sign, old signs in your

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township with newer, more efficient,
bigger signs, you can even do that.

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» Could you see that? description.
>> That be on a state road. No,

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» that could be anywhere.
>> Depending on where it is.

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» Now, we all number save center road.
Remember that little thing?

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» Yeah.
>> Yeah. That was fun. Um

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» and that would be one of the cost share
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» Yes.
>> Yeah.

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If you feel the need is important. I'll
grant it. We have to make sure that it's

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allowable under the stand-to standards.
So if it's allowable, there's no reason

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why it couldn't unless you want it to
be.

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» And the people that live there have no
choice in it.

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» We ask for all and prove. Again, we work
with the township boards because you are

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the body closer to the people's. So we
rely on you to be your eyes and ears

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» and we would be the ones to say yes,
they want.

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» You bet.

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» Normally we put them in high traffic
areas. Normally numbered roads or

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primary roads. There are some areas
though like Bendon Road. We put a rumble

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strip on and if they got them seriously
chipped off to put it back on again.

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» Intersection. Yeah.
>> Again, it depends. If you have an area

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that would be warning drivers and it's a
bad stopped area, you look good or you

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have traffic uh if it's a traffic
accident history. It' be a

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consideration. [clears throat]
>> Joel, you've been pretty quiet. Do you

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have any questions?
>> No. My mind is thinking where you're

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thinking. [laughter]
Any questions?

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» No. No. I've got a lot of some good
information, but yeah, definitely we

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need to set up some of
>> you have $36,000, but we'd match up to

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that amount and you're going to drop off
12,000 this year or didn't even get

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used,
>> but we'll add 12,000, right?

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» Yeah.
>> Yeah. Do that because right now it's too

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late to add a project and our fiscal
year is September 30th,

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» right?
>> But for next year,

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» totally up to you how you want to go
about it.

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» We'd love to see you come to the table.
We'd love to see you have give us a

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project list you'd like to see done. So,
>> thank you.

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» Any more questions?
>> I do. I have a couple of like different

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kind of topics.
>> Just quick and yeah. Um, any word on

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moving Sutter Road?
>> Nope.

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» Okay.
>> Um, M22, remind me of the timeline for

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any got a timeline on red fixing this
road or redoing. Do you know?

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» I tell you to call M dot.
>> I've been talking to M dot. We're not

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even on the fiveyear plan. I told
seriously for a couple years

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in Land about that. They're doing 204 22
between SS Bay and Gorilla working that

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get his account.
>> I mentioned that a few meetings ago. Um

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I can't remember the guy's name in ter
city but um

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» Dan Wagner.
>> Yes. He was thinking there might be some

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extra money this year and he could
squeeze out an extra project and then

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there wasn't. So now I'm just lobbying
to get in a five-year plan as soon as

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possible.
>> I worked with Dan at Leeleno. He was my

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boss when I was at the finest director
of Leela. So Dan went from being manager

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at lew

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ways but um you know the stuff and Dan
and he he's really good about getting

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back to things about your fate request
but unfortunately MDOT like everyone

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else had a bad winter last year.
Obviously the costs were a lot higher

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than we anticipated and they're not
broke but they don't have extra money a

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lot of extra money and normally I've
been through this cycle for quite a few

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years. MDOT gives us money with a 30-day
of the year end. So August 1, they go,

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"Oh, we have X number of dollars to per
project." We're going, "Uh uh,

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[clears throat] you know, how do you
spend it?" So this year though, I'm

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getting to wonder if you even have the
money. But of course, they got a lot of

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it tied up in the roundabouts.
>> They're concentrating right now on the

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roundabout at Interlock in. That's been
a fun project. I'm sure now they're

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doing the bypasses and um again don't
ask if they can't say can't say yes we

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don't ask. So
>> but we don't have that ability. That's

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not us.
>> Wish we could but we don't. We just

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maintain it for them now by confident.
>> Marian more.

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» Yeah, I got one more for you.
>> Okay. So this this came to mind because

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of the the um election and the the mill
vote and everything. Somebody said to me

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they said well they voted no for the
county village. They said because you

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know what? We told the road commission
no twice and then they found the money.

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So they think the county is going to
find money if they tell them no. So my

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question to you is maybe they start
thinking the money you got it it wasn't

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a gift I take it. It was some kind of a
grant or a bond. Right.

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» Let me give you this.
>> Okay. So how are you going to make the

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payments on that?
>> Okay.

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» Glad Arts here did on this one. Um, just
so you know what happened was we went to

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the first millillage and we got defeated
by a couple hundred votes. While we

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filed for the second goound, the funding
package in Lancing, which always every

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year dies and whatever, I actually went
through

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» which gave more money to the road
commission

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» gift. No, it's through the Michigan
transportation funds, the allocation

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process, how they actually put the
actual dollars generated from the

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revenues and how they chunk it through
and how they disperse it out. A bigger

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share was given to the actual counties
finally because at any given time we've

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got $20 million of repair that needs to
be done and only get a million dollars

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allocated to us to do that. So in this
particular case, we realized two things.

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We were able to pay our M's obligation
off. As of last December, we were 100%

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funded on our first funding. So our
divine benefit. So we were putting extra

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money in every year up to almost a
million dollars extra per year before

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that to get that paid down. So now with
that being made, we have an additional

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$600,000 available in this process. But
we knew that wasn't enough for the bond

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we need to do. So coupled with that
savings from the merge program and with

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the additional money coming in that's
starting to come in now through the MTF

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distribution we have enough money for
the actual bond repayment of million2

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per year.
>> Okay.

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» And how asked a certain thing they only
wanted us to put three years worth of

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bond repayment in as a reserve of cash
and that's part of the stipulation that

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we did when we actually did this
particular project. So won't be

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insolveny involved. The road commission
has never been a situation where we

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couldn't pay the lastly I've been there.
That'll plan out to be in the future

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either. So we do have avenues built into
our budget. We're going to pay that sort

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of next year by year and additional
revenues stream has been fairly stable.

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There are a few things involved with the
marijuana tax and the corporate income

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tax. are still being tussled down
lancing the lawyers but right now

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there's no no but we're going to see
nothing for sure in October whether that

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that's going to be come to fruition or
not even without it you have enough to

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make the payment and not lose services
to the residents

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» I'm worried they're not going to get
like weekend plowing because you have to

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pay these bills and
>> you got to remember

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» got to figure it out right
>> that's what the mill is for millillage

418
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:08,880
remember I told you we have that village
we have separate money where we're able

419
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:12,080
to give you guarantee weekend and
nighttime patrol of primary roads.

420
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:17,760
» Thank you.
>> So you have we have two drivers on

421
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:21,120
sorry a total of four on during the
winter time that covers that particular

422
00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:24,880
road. So we get 24 hours of coverage on
the high volume roads and they say trunk

423
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:28,080
line. So that's done through the millage
proceeds not through the other stuff.

424
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:31,440
» Thank you. I'll remember to tell them
that because we're going to have to

425
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:34,399
start pushing again and letting
everybody know we're out of money. Thank

426
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,919
you.
>> And I realized too, it's been a hard

427
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:41,360
struggle. We realized the residents of
Benzy, they don't have a lot of money.

428
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:46,159
We realized that and we took that
message for we found we found a way to

429
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:50,880
make it work. Unfortunately, when that
re before the second election took

430
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:55,039
place, we had that the whole thing in
the works at Lancing. And when the

431
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:59,840
millage failed
that same week, the funding package was

432
00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:03,840
approved. At that point, we realized,
you know what? The longer we wait, the

433
00:32:01,279 --> 00:32:07,200
more it's going to cost.
Okay? So, when we first looked at this

434
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:13,519
thing four years ago, the cost was
earmarked at 12 million. Then, two years

435
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:18,080
ago, it went to 16 million. Now, it's at
20 million. That's what we committed to.

436
00:32:16,559 --> 00:32:23,200
But we have enough money with the bond
we sold and internal savings we had, we

437
00:32:21,039 --> 00:32:27,840
had squirreling money away. We have
enough to cover.

438
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:30,080
So by hopefully next next fall we'll be
in the facilities.

439
00:32:29,519 --> 00:32:33,840
» Thank you.
>> Back to snow plowing for a second. You

440
00:32:31,919 --> 00:32:36,960
probably hear it too. Um I hear
compliments about the snow plowing all

441
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:40,399
the time. It's like people say they go
to you know an adjacent county and you

442
00:32:39,039 --> 00:32:44,480
can tell when you hit the county line
because the roads aren't as good. So

443
00:32:42,399 --> 00:32:49,760
» well I was Leela's fun instructor for
almost 20 years and used to be Leela had

444
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:54,240
the reputation that Benty was kind of
hurting but that has not been the case.

445
00:32:52,399 --> 00:32:59,039
We found out over the years we have a
staff who takes it to heart and they've

446
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:03,200
really made a huge difference in
strides. I'm proud of them. They've done

447
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:07,200
a wonderful job of keeping this update.
We had during that snowstorm we had this

448
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:11,120
March, we had guys sleep over in the
building because they couldn't go home

449
00:33:09,039 --> 00:33:14,399
and they had to put in 12-hour days,
took a eight hour nap and went back out

450
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:17,600
again to make sure the roads were opened
up. So,

451
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:22,399
» everybody appreciates it
>> and we again we're proud of them. They

452
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:27,200
really stepped up. Any other questions
for Joe? I'm done. Thank you very much.

453
00:33:25,279 --> 00:33:34,240
» Can I add just a couple comments to
about the building? If I could sure just

454
00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:38,320
add some quick detail. Um, when the
ballots were already sent out, it was

455
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:42,880
only after they were sent out, as Joe
said, that they found out additional

456
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:48,000
funding would take place.
We spent over a series of a number of

457
00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:53,039
discussions with the road commission and
elected representatives on Lancing to

458
00:33:50,559 --> 00:33:58,640
talk about and try to understand the
reliability of the new revenue coming

459
00:33:55,679 --> 00:34:02,880
from Lancing. Joe has mentioned the fact
that there are two sources of revenue

460
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:08,159
that aren't even being considered. But
by the way, the marijuana tax is already

461
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:12,560
being collected but not dispersed.
But what happened is at the gas pump

462
00:34:10,639 --> 00:34:20,480
they went from, and Joe correct me if
I'm wrong, like 6 cents or 6% to 24

463
00:34:17,119 --> 00:34:25,280
cents, which dramatically increased the
amount of revenue that they could get

464
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:29,520
shared then to local road commissions.
We lost some of that uh formula. We lost

465
00:34:27,919 --> 00:34:34,240
some of that funding when
transportation. So they took away and

466
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:38,960
they added 24 cents as an addition, but
they took away 8 cents a gallon from the

467
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:45,440
old funding. So, we saw a shortfall this
spring before the two synced up. So,

468
00:34:42,639 --> 00:34:48,639
right now we're seeing the gains of the
distributions uh starting last month.

469
00:34:47,359 --> 00:34:52,639
We're starting to see that additional
funding. So, um we would have done this

470
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:55,119
if we weren't positive we can make it
work.

471
00:34:53,919 --> 00:34:57,040
» Very well.
>> Thank you so much. Really appreciate

472
00:34:56,720 --> 00:35:01,320
you.
>> You're welcome. Thank you very much.

473
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:13,880
» Okay. On to committee resort.
>> Um, do you have anything on the park?

474
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:21,920
» Um, planning commission. Do you want me
to talk about the meeting first or you

475
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:25,440
want to start?
>> Um,

476
00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:31,280
no. Why don't you go ahead?
>> So, you all got tonight a proposed

477
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:36,079
calendar that McKenna sent for the
Bapton ordinance. It's really

478
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:41,599
aggressive. Um,
we found that we need to do an update to

479
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:44,800
the master plan prior to adopting the
final version of zoning ordinance. So,

480
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:51,920
there's going to be a bit of an extra
charge for that. As part of that, um, we

481
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:58,560
have to publish for 63 days a future
land use map. So, this is a draft future

482
00:35:55,280 --> 00:36:04,960
land use map that Beckett and Raider put
together. none of us could access it um

483
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:11,119
once they were no longer working for us.
Um but John Rothar had downloaded a copy

484
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:18,800
so I got that from him. Um the request
is could this board please have a

485
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:24,400
special meeting on Wednesday August 19th
to authorize the distribution of this

486
00:36:21,520 --> 00:36:29,599
map for 63 days.
Um, and then there's other steps, but

487
00:36:27,599 --> 00:36:36,800
the first step to adopting a future land
use map is the 63-day distribution. Um,

488
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:41,440
then the planning commission would have
a special hearing on the future land use

489
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:49,599
map on October 30th
and then it would be adopt

490
00:36:45,839 --> 00:36:55,920
board introduces amendment. Um, it would
come before us again on November 5th.

491
00:36:53,040 --> 00:37:01,520
Um, so again, the master plan everybody
probably knows is a visionary document.

492
00:36:59,359 --> 00:37:06,880
This is like is this what we want our
township to look like? Um, they don't

493
00:37:05,119 --> 00:37:13,280
the master plan map and the zoning
ordinance map don't always um they're

494
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:17,440
not always the same. In this situation
um where we're adopting a new zoning

495
00:37:15,359 --> 00:37:22,160
ordinance as well, the maps will
probably match in the beginning

496
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:26,320
the mass future land use map and the
zoning map. Do you agree, Josh?

497
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:31,599
» Well, if we're making some zoning map
changes, you I would recommend you put

498
00:37:28,079 --> 00:37:37,040
it on the future zoning map and then
>> Oh, so that reminded me of one other

499
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:42,000
thing. Um Josh has recommended an
additional change to what you see here,

500
00:37:39,599 --> 00:37:47,119
a very minor change, and that will get
explained. Um

501
00:37:45,359 --> 00:37:52,800
do we need we need to have that change
made before our August 19th meeting when

502
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:57,040
we authorize distribution, don't we?
>> Well, if if we're going to make a zoning

503
00:37:54,800 --> 00:38:02,560
map change in the new zoning ordinance,
it it for me it makes sense it goes on

504
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:06,160
that master plan document. So, we have
to ask McKenna to make that one other

505
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:11,200
change. Correct.
>> What What's the change?

506
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:13,440
» The change in chimney already did. She's
going to do it.

507
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:15,440
» She's going to do that. Okay. Y
>> and can we have that you think by August

508
00:38:15,119 --> 00:38:16,640
19th?
>> Oh, definitely.

509
00:38:16,240 --> 00:38:20,480
» Okay.
>> Yeah. In fact, I think she's like I

510
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:24,079
didn't check my email, but I think she
said it supposed to be today.

511
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:27,680
» She's revising this. So, because I the
commercial reserve district on

512
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:31,839
Deadstream,
the the Plat Lake side is still there.

513
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:35,040
And then it looks like
>> I don't think it was reduced as much as

514
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:38,880
we talked about.
>> It did. We did reduce some of it. We

515
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,839
did, right?
>> Yeah, we did.

516
00:38:40,079 --> 00:38:47,839
» You did on the lake.
>> Yeah. And then around and then around

517
00:38:44,720 --> 00:38:52,800
Riverside that's supposed to remain,
which that looks like that's gone.

518
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:59,320
» That's
where are you?

519
00:38:55,119 --> 00:38:59,320
There's red by

520
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:02,560
» Lake Michigan Road. There's one little
dot.

521
00:39:01,359 --> 00:39:06,880
» All right.
>> All right. We're gonna leave that.

522
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:11,040
» So, we're leaving half of most of
Deadstream Commercial Resort.

523
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:15,839
» You think we need to double check that?
I recall that the planning commission

524
00:39:13,119 --> 00:39:19,280
wanted more of a reduction on the south
side of Deadstream Road, a reduction in

525
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:23,520
the commercial,
>> but that's for the new zoning. This

526
00:39:21,119 --> 00:39:28,720
should be like our master,
right? Hold on a second. Yeah, that that

527
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:34,400
map is from Becca Greater.
>> So, that wasn't even discussed when that

528
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:41,680
map was made. But our Andrea has a new
mallet that I called in um chimney

529
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:44,560
corners change and a change on our on
dead stream. So, that map should be

530
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:48,000
there.
>> So, she got a copy of what Becket and

531
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:53,119
Raider had done,
>> right? but she's changing it to what you

532
00:39:50,560 --> 00:40:00,000
already discussed and and I called in
that um the change that Josh um made

533
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:06,320
with with the property tax ID number. So
it the the map should be by well

534
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:08,720
actually by the 13th that map we're
going to have to um the planning

535
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:11,040
commission is going to have to look at
that map

536
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:15,920
» and that's what our meeting is going to
be about on the 13th.

537
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:19,520
» Okay. So that said, are you all willing
to have a special meeting on August

538
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:25,119
19th? Just
>> think it's 20th, you know, right?

539
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:26,720
» I do know, but um the 20th is not good
for Joel.

540
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:32,160
» Okay.
>> And on the 19th, I could do afternoon or

541
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:35,640
evening. I just can't do between 4:45
and 6:45.

542
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:44,119
I work that day. So during day is
tricky, too. title.

543
00:40:45,599 --> 00:40:52,240
» So, it's afternoon again.
>> After somewhere,

544
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:55,680
» what about 3:00 when we're done?
>> Three. No.

545
00:40:54,079 --> 00:40:59,680
» Have to go to the bank and and stuff
like that, too. That's That's not good

546
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:03,040
for me.
>> So, you would

547
00:41:02,079 --> 00:41:06,319
» four o'clock be good?
>> I'm walking out of here at 4:45.

548
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:11,040
» Oh, yeah.
>> It should be really quick.

549
00:41:08,319 --> 00:41:13,520
» August 19th. I leave the Well, no, I'm
not leaving the 20th. I leave the 21st.

550
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,839
It's okay.
>> Are you sure? Friday's the 21st.

551
00:41:15,119 --> 00:41:21,680
» Yeah, I do.
>> Okay. If need be. Or um it might just be

552
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:25,200
It's okay. I'm call. Okay. So, let's do
whatever time you want.

553
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:30,560
» Wednesday the 19th.
>> You need three.

554
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:33,359
» How about should we go 3:30?
>> Let's go three. Let's Let's give

555
00:41:32,079 --> 00:41:36,800
yourself time. Okay.
>> You know, if if we're going to have

556
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:39,599
somebody here to help, let's just
>> All right. I mean, you certainly don't

557
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:42,960
want to be like, "Oh, you know, we we
didn't do it. Didn't have time."

558
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:46,960
» So, that does not require a vote. It
actually does not um have to be

559
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:50,800
published in the paper, but we'll put on
the bulletin board of the website,

560
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,079
Penny.
>> Yep.

561
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:56,079
» Okay.
>> For that, maybe. And can I actually get

562
00:41:53,680 --> 00:42:02,000
a copy of the one that we're going to
look at? I really like what I'm hearing.

563
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:07,200
» Shouldn't Shouldn't this not be what is
in our master plan, not what we're going

564
00:42:03,839 --> 00:42:09,599
to change it to? Why would it be It is.
>> It's not a future land map. It's like a

565
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:13,040
change.
>> Can we discuss that

566
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:16,319
» when we get the map?
>> We can.

567
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:18,560
» That's just probably save time in our
meeting.

568
00:42:16,720 --> 00:42:22,880
» Okay. Um, very well.
>> Let me make sure.

569
00:42:19,839 --> 00:42:28,560
» Anything else on the level?
>> Yeah. Okay. So, uh, we have a a new

570
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:35,680
revised
zilling ordinance bill preliminary out

571
00:42:32,319 --> 00:42:39,839
in the office. Um,
Andrea did meet with both lake

572
00:42:37,359 --> 00:42:42,480
associations after our last meeting the
next day

573
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:47,520
» at their expense.
>> At their expense. Okay. Um, and I just a

574
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:50,319
little bit I I got back from her. She
thought it was a very productive

575
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:54,160
meeting. I haven't we haven't seen
anything yet

576
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:58,160
from her that will probably be at our
August 13th meeting, but we also have

577
00:42:55,680 --> 00:43:01,680
some stuff to gosh to deal with in the
August 13th meetings. We do have an

578
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:07,520
aggressive schedule. There's no doubt
about it. This may this map

579
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:16,079
may slow us down, but our what our plan
is, what we're hoping for.

580
00:43:11,359 --> 00:43:22,079
We have a meeting on August 13th at 6:30
and then we also will have a a special

581
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:27,599
meeting for 400 p.m.
August 28th.

582
00:43:25,119 --> 00:43:34,319
that the August 13th meeting, we are
hoping to have a draft that we're ready

583
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:39,520
to present to the public fully and then
they will have till August 28th to

584
00:43:36,720 --> 00:43:42,800
digest all that and then they can bring
their comments in August 28th at 4.

585
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:48,440
» That that's a public hearing.
>> Yep. Public hearing

586
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:48,440
» on the zoning ordinance.

587
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:57,760
» September 3rd
is when we would bring it to the

588
00:43:55,119 --> 00:44:05,520
township board
and then we proposed September 10th

589
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:11,200
special meeting of the township board to
approve

590
00:44:07,839 --> 00:44:17,040
the new zoning ordinance. Now this map
throws us

591
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:21,440
» on this calendar it says
>> October 1st. This is what we I mean

592
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:26,640
maybe maybe Andrea but these were the
four dates that we have that we had at

593
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:29,280
our last planning commission meeting the
13th. Oh, the 10th would have a special

594
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:33,520
meeting.
>> The 10th would be the the 10th would be

595
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:37,920
a special meeting. If that's what the
planning comm now, I didn't know about

596
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:42,560
the map that the 63 days and all this
and that

597
00:44:39,440 --> 00:44:49,400
» if we could I Josh, can we approve
zoning without this or do we have to

598
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:49,400
wait till November?

599
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:53,520
» I mean, if you said those two things
were going to go concurrently,

600
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:57,599
» I Yeah,
>> there was no mention of 63 days. We're

601
00:44:55,839 --> 00:45:02,000
not going to go to master plan jail,
right? But in the grand scheme of

602
00:45:00,240 --> 00:45:05,280
planning, you you know, if you're going
to make zoning map changes, you you

603
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:11,200
typically will do it through the master
plan process.

604
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:15,680
And I I, you know, recommend that your
your your future zoning map and your

605
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:19,920
zoning ordinance map match if if you're
happy with it, right? You know, because

606
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:25,119
you've done it. You're fulfilling your
your master plan dream and your zoning

607
00:45:22,240 --> 00:45:28,000
ordinance. But in the grand scheme of
things, you would normally if you're

608
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:31,839
going to make any zoning or map changes,
you would you do that through a future

609
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:36,160
land use map in the manage plan. But
you're you're basically doing that

610
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:39,920
» backwards.
>> I just did about a September 10th

611
00:45:38,319 --> 00:45:42,400
special. That's the planning division
meeting, right?

612
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:46,640
» No, no, that's the special township
board. Remember remember I ran that by

613
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:52,400
you at that meeting? You said I think
that would be really nice to give the

614
00:45:48,079 --> 00:45:56,319
board a week to review the zoning.
September like we present it to the

615
00:45:53,920 --> 00:46:02,000
board September 3rd gives everybody
another week

616
00:45:58,319 --> 00:46:04,079
us to review and say I like it don't
like it.

617
00:46:02,319 --> 00:46:06,720
» Well, yeah. If we come back and say we
don't like it, then just

618
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:10,000
» Well, Mary,
>> that put me in jail.

619
00:46:08,319 --> 00:46:14,640
» I
>> I just So, this calendar from Andrea

620
00:46:12,880 --> 00:46:22,240
says
Thursday, October.

621
00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:25,200
» May I say about Mark? Um,
>> thank you.

622
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:31,359
» August ahead of time.
>> August 28th is our um is a public

623
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:39,760
hearing to review the zoning ordinance,
the text force on the zoning ordinance.

624
00:46:35,359 --> 00:46:44,319
So once so and what Kyle was um was
bringing up at our meetings is that it

625
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:51,200
gives the people who are here a chance
to actually comment and have input into

626
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:55,119
our zoning ordinance. So, um, that
that's the important meeting as far as

627
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:59,599
what the public's doing. Maryanne,
you're asking what if you don't like it.

628
00:46:57,359 --> 00:47:03,119
Well, the thing is if there's tweaks or
something that we can do, then have to

629
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:06,240
do that because if the board's going to
have to either approve it or not approve

630
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:10,960
it, and you might approve it with
tweaks, but I think the important thing

631
00:47:08,720 --> 00:47:16,079
is on the 28th is that the public is
able to say what they have to say and

632
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:20,560
get their input in on what we're what we
have. I I mean I don't know as much as

633
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:26,480
we beat this thing to death uh for the
last two years. Um I think that we got a

634
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:30,880
pretty decent document. I mean not
everybody's happy with everything that's

635
00:47:28,240 --> 00:47:37,520
going into it, but it's it's pretty
good. It's it's um it strengthens a lot

636
00:47:33,839 --> 00:47:42,079
of things. Um it it it u addresses
things that people were bringing up

637
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:46,480
about um you know development and lot
size and things like that. So I think um

638
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:51,520
you know but I think the important thing
is that public is able to comment on it

639
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:56,560
once it's in the board's hands if it
gets delayed and you push it off I don't

640
00:47:53,920 --> 00:48:01,040
see a problem but I think it stop stops
is whether Josh is going to implement it

641
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:07,520
that's all that's all I can see that's
it's going to stop you know and if we

642
00:48:04,319 --> 00:48:12,000
and if we are good with McKenna's role
>> right I mean if the board wants to push

643
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:17,200
it down the road but we are Well, then
it's done and it's done and and then we

644
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:23,760
write the check and then it's going to
be

645
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:28,559
» debate over issue here, issue there.
>> Well, and we're going to

646
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:33,040
» live within that document and and we're
going to notice things like, okay, maybe

647
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:37,280
that wasn't what we really thought. We
can compile an amendment list, too.

648
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:41,520
» Right. Well, and I'm doing that same
with the STR. Yeah. I mean, you know, we

649
00:48:39,359 --> 00:48:44,400
came out with a ordinance and now we're
finding out what's working, what's not.

650
00:48:43,119 --> 00:48:49,200
We're tweaking a little bit here, a
little bit there. But, uh, I think

651
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:54,000
overall, I think we've we've covered a
lot of good stuff and and we have a lot,

652
00:48:51,839 --> 00:48:58,559
you know, there's a tremendous amount of
mind power that went into this thing.

653
00:48:56,400 --> 00:49:01,839
So, I don't think we should pull it
right off the bat.

654
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:06,480
» Okay. So, Maryanne, your question, um,
on August 31st, transmit zoning text to

655
00:49:04,720 --> 00:49:11,280
board and county. That actually should
say transmit zoning text to townships

656
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:15,760
and county. We're required to send a
text to any township that's contiguous

657
00:49:13,839 --> 00:49:19,920
to us and to the county even though they
don't have a planning commission. And

658
00:49:17,599 --> 00:49:25,839
then the surrounding townships and the
county have until September 30th to

659
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:29,520
why we can't approve it until after
that. We can't we have to wait till

660
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:34,319
that. Right. And that and that's
possibly could be Andrea digesting

661
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:38,000
» because we were throwing a lot of dates
and she was like I think I need to keep

662
00:49:35,839 --> 00:49:45,880
this timeline but I'll I haven't seen
this calendar. That's why she

663
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:45,880
was because that expires on the

664
00:49:46,319 --> 00:49:49,319
» please

665
00:49:49,599 --> 00:49:58,480
order. Um Josh,
I'm now confused and I thought I was

666
00:49:56,000 --> 00:50:01,359
really clear on this. September, you
probably don't have this calendar in

667
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:07,200
front of you, do you?
Well, so September 10th, we did schedule

668
00:50:03,599 --> 00:50:10,960
a ZVA hearing at 5:00 p.m.
>> and that's in my report.

669
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:15,839
» Okay. Oh,
>> so this says September 3rd, board

670
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:21,280
introduces zoning text.
And then it says October 1st, board

671
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:25,880
adopts zoning tax.
And I think that's for R.

672
00:50:26,720 --> 00:50:33,440
It all depends on when you want to adopt
the zoning ordinance and how it relates

673
00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:36,319
to that master plan.
>> I feel like we're doing them

674
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:40,559
simultaneously.
>> Yes,

675
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:44,400
» that was what was discussed at planning,
but it almost sounds like the adoption

676
00:50:42,720 --> 00:50:47,119
of the zoning orders is going to come a
month earlier than the master plan

677
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:52,319
adoption.
>> Not on this calendar.

678
00:50:50,240 --> 00:50:57,520
This calendar has adoption of the future
land use map which is the master plan

679
00:50:55,839 --> 00:51:00,880
one on November 5th.
>> Okay.

680
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:04,000
» And adoption of the zoning ordinance map
on December 1st.

681
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:09,200
» Okay. So what were your introduction
meetings then? You were going to

682
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:14,400
introduce the draft m or the draft
zoning ordinance

683
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:18,079
» on August 19th. Authorize the 63day
distribution of this. Yeah. So,

684
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:23,440
» putting it out in the public for 63
days.

685
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:28,319
» So, that's the master plan now.
>> Okay. But then I I thought I heard there

686
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:33,359
was going to be an introduction to the
zoning board on it some date in

687
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:37,920
September. Did you say that?
>> August this on here. It's September 3rd.

688
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:40,319
» And then
>> introduce it. And then

689
00:51:39,119 --> 00:51:44,480
» second meeting
>> on the 10th. out of 10

690
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:48,720
» was when we were we were hoping to have
a special meeting with the township

691
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:51,119
board to approve the zoning the new
zoning or

692
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:54,720
» then the zoning ordinance is
>> but this shows October 1st, right?

693
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:58,480
» This shows October 1st,
>> but you're not adopting it.

694
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,520
» Our hope was that we would September
12th.

695
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:01,520
» Okay. Well,
>> that was our hope at our last planning

696
00:52:00,880 --> 00:52:04,880
commission.
>> Won't have had it for 30 days was our

697
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:08,319
timeline. They have to have it available
to them first. Yeah,

698
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:11,760
» that is why I think they had I think
it's October and that's maybe Andrew did

699
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:14,800
some more digging. I have not seen the
scale.

700
00:52:13,119 --> 00:52:20,160
» I I think we could probably go to
October.

701
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:23,920
» I think we can go to October 1st and not
do the September 10th.

702
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:26,240
» Um,
>> do we still have that?

703
00:52:25,119 --> 00:52:29,119
» I think that clears it off.
>> Do we still have Do we still have the

704
00:52:27,839 --> 00:52:32,640
August 28th?
>> Oh, definitely.

705
00:52:30,079 --> 00:52:36,079
» Okay. So, we just eliminate We just
eliminate the separate time. The 28th

706
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:38,079
meeting is actually the public period.
>> Yeah. Right.

707
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:41,119
» Okay.
>> On on the text.

708
00:52:39,359 --> 00:52:45,680
» So, we are for sure having a special
meeting at 3:00 on August 19th. And

709
00:52:44,240 --> 00:52:49,119
sounds like we're going to be following
this calendar, but the planning

710
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:52,680
commission will
continue to

711
00:52:56,640 --> 00:53:02,000
» just to make it clear for everybody, the
planning commission will be meeting

712
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:07,520
August 13th at 6:30 p.m. That's correct.
>> Yes. and we'll discuss

713
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:13,359
probably the map probably the changes
she made pretty overlay because she met

714
00:53:09,359 --> 00:53:16,400
with the lake associations and uh Elden
Miller

715
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:19,520
» you you want to put that on the agenda
to talk about

716
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:22,400
» I thought he was chomping at the bid I
thought we

717
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:28,559
» he he is Elton
>> the I think Josh and Mark need to talk

718
00:53:25,599 --> 00:53:34,079
about that um Elden Miller is the
>> the We're really getting down.

719
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:38,480
» Let's go play develop.
>> I think between the two of you just

720
00:53:36,720 --> 00:53:41,599
figure out when Elden Miller is going to
be in.

721
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:45,480
» Okay.
>> Okay. Are we good?

722
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:51,760
» I got it.
>> For now, we can.

723
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:58,400
» Okay. On to the website committee.
Michelle is still here. We

724
00:53:55,440 --> 00:54:02,559
are um next week
They don't use the word uploading, but

725
00:54:00,240 --> 00:54:06,640
essentially we're uploading all of our
stuff. Michelle's going to help with the

726
00:54:05,359 --> 00:54:11,040
fingers crossed. Michelle's going to
help with an intermediary

727
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:16,000
um
location

728
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:19,240
and um that's happening early next week,
we hope.

729
00:54:19,359 --> 00:54:25,760
And okay,
>> which means like after that it works.

730
00:54:23,359 --> 00:54:33,800
» Well, no, revise then we're closer.
However, however long revice takes then

731
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:33,800
to create it, they have all over

732
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:42,640
um staff reports. Did we get anything
from that? I don't see anything.

733
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:47,760
» No. Okay.
>> Moving on to code enforcement officer

734
00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:54,800
Mark Janesco. Is there anything you want
to highlight?

735
00:54:48,640 --> 00:54:59,200
» Yeah, I was uh Bay Lake City report. Um,
pretty busy month in July.

736
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:04,400
Uh, the short-term rentals. I received
one complaint about people camping on

737
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:08,960
the property with their STR and we'll
address this in the fall when I get my

738
00:55:06,720 --> 00:55:13,920
final report for the year um for the
short-term rentals. Um, I know that the

739
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:17,520
owner and resolved the issue, however,
has suggested that we include an

740
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:23,040
amendment to the STR cannot allow
campers on STR properties because of the

741
00:55:20,240 --> 00:55:28,400
difficulty to regulate. and he's correct
about that. So, um I also have two uh

742
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:33,040
short-term rental applications with all
the information except payment and looks

743
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:38,800
like I'm just gotten payment today on
one. I'm working with contact people to

744
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:44,319
secure the payments. Uh I went to two
firework ordinance complaints. Notices

745
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:48,720
were given and uh just for the public's
and for the boards, you can con you can

746
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:52,960
call me anytime any time of the night.
just call me, let me know that there's

747
00:55:51,040 --> 00:56:00,480
something going on and I'll I'll
respond. Okay. So, um that was part of

748
00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:06,079
the the job I think when I was um
brought on. So, um the dock issue

749
00:56:03,839 --> 00:56:12,079
brought to the township by Kim Simons at
7932 Astro has not been resolved.

750
00:56:09,839 --> 00:56:16,720
Currently, we are seeking legal counsel
due to the fact that the Simons don't

751
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:20,960
recognize our amendment to the dock
ordinance portion of our zoning

752
00:56:18,240 --> 00:56:26,240
ordinance as legal. Meanwhile, the
neighbors dock is in 100% compliance

753
00:56:23,839 --> 00:56:30,480
with our ordinance and repairing water
lines. The Simons, meanwhile, are in

754
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:35,359
violation of our dock ordinance being
too close 5T away from the prop

755
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:39,680
neighbor's property line as it extends
into the water, which is what our

756
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:43,920
amendment to our ordinance says.
We are waiting on an answer from our

757
00:56:41,839 --> 00:56:49,359
attorney.
I turned uh a blight case at 8036

758
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:52,880
Deadstream Road. I've been getting a lot
of calls on that. People are asking

759
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:55,359
what's going on with that. I turned it
over to the magistrate's office for

760
00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:57,520
legal action.
>> Is that the one on the corner of

761
00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,839
Pickory?
>> That's correct.

762
00:56:58,319 --> 00:57:04,440
» You have a name on that one?
>> Uh that's Tucker, Dave Tucker.

763
00:57:05,119 --> 00:57:11,280
» The trash cans at the park have been
full most days during July. Penny

764
00:57:08,799 --> 00:57:16,960
ordered another garbage can ring uh the
surround and that's in the garage. I

765
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:20,400
need to assemble that. Um I replaced two
grill bottoms with steel plates and

766
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:24,480
they're working really really well.
Saving us some money on grills. I

767
00:57:22,559 --> 00:57:29,200
remember a couple three years ago I got
those um steel plates made up and I put

768
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:32,319
two of them in. I have to replace put
two more in and they're working

769
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:36,079
fantastic.
>> Are you really going to read this whole

770
00:57:33,839 --> 00:57:41,119
report? [laughter]
>> Crossing words off. I'm almost

771
00:57:38,079 --> 00:57:46,480
» okay. Um, okay. Someone defecated on the
side of the Thompson call during the

772
00:57:43,280 --> 00:57:50,799
voting and used a towel. I use a towel.
They use a towel for the cleanup. I

773
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:53,920
threw the towel in the trash. Henry
viewed the camera videos to see if we

774
00:57:52,559 --> 00:57:58,960
could catch the person that did the
deed.

775
00:57:56,240 --> 00:58:03,760
» We We can only see the parking lot and
it's not easy to scan. Um, we did see a

776
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:07,599
white 4erunner pass through the parking
lot, but

777
00:58:06,079 --> 00:58:11,900
» it did not stop after
>> it didn't stop. It didn't stop.

778
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:11,900
[laughter]

779
00:58:13,119 --> 00:58:19,680
» Well, the reason why that's important is
because it was during boating and you

780
00:58:17,119 --> 00:58:23,520
see weird objects on the side of the
building and stuff like that. We just

781
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:27,440
got to take precautions.
>> Anyways, our two traffic uh speed signs

782
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:31,040
are up and running. They worked well. I
don't know if you saw them. And as

783
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:33,920
always, if anybody has any questions or
complaints, feel free to contact me

784
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:37,119
anytime.
>> Couple of things. Where are the speed

785
00:58:35,359 --> 00:58:41,200
signs roughly? What roads?
>> Uh Dead Stream and Crystal Drive.

786
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:44,960
» Thank you. And I would like to pass on a
compliment that we got. I was talking to

787
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:48,400
someone on the phone the other day and
they said, "Oh, Mark, oh my god, he was

788
00:58:46,559 --> 00:58:52,319
so wonderful and helpful and they they
really you were just what they needed

789
00:58:50,559 --> 00:58:58,799
and they had short-term rentals. They
>> do they have the last name? [laughter]

790
00:58:55,280 --> 00:59:04,559
» They still have to pay.
I I do have one one question.

791
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:10,400
» Uh with the with the the bands that were
playing on the Sandbar last Sunday,

792
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:14,240
» were there any complaints, any feedback,
anything?

793
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:17,680
» No. Um no, there I didn't receive any
complaints. They were short.

794
00:59:15,839 --> 00:59:21,440
» It didn't last very long. And so I think
that sort of boils down. People are

795
00:59:19,119 --> 00:59:23,680
saying, "Well," and then they don't do
anything because they they cut the music

796
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:28,200
off.
>> Okay.

797
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:28,200
» Yes.

798
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:34,760
River
two pontoons kind of hooked together

799
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:39,680
were given.
>> Huh?

800
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:42,480
» Traffic tickets given
>> by who? The sheriff's department.

801
00:59:41,280 --> 00:59:45,440
» State police.
>> But that there was a saturation patrol

802
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:49,440
on Sunday as well.
>> Yeah. Yeah. No, I'm just I

803
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:53,440
» because I'm getting all kinds of
complaints because we don't have

804
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:58,640
» marine patrol out but that's another
story. Um, all set.

805
00:59:56,640 --> 01:00:03,520
» Thank you.
>> Um, Josh Mills, we have your report.

806
01:00:02,480 --> 01:00:08,559
What would you like to
>> Well, excuse me.

807
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:12,960
» Did issue I'll go verbal.
>> Okay.

808
01:00:10,319 --> 01:00:18,079
» Um, issued seven landing permits in
about July. Two of them were brand new

809
01:00:14,799 --> 01:00:22,079
homes. Uh, one was a deck, one was a
solar array, and the others were

810
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:27,520
accessory structures.
I uh did attend the July 9th and July

811
01:00:25,359 --> 01:00:33,040
23rd planning commission meeting. Been
spending some time reviewing the

812
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:36,240
ordinances. Thank you for me in on email
exchange. That's great. Thank you.

813
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:39,599
» Sorry it took so long. There was
miscommunication.

814
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:44,880
» No, no problem. I found it on the
website so I was able to stay in touch

815
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:49,760
with what's going on. Um busy month
coming that that we just experienced and

816
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:54,160
coming up for for variances. We did have
a a variance hearing on July 2nd for a

817
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:58,079
front yard setback variance for a
detached accessory structure. Uh the

818
01:00:56,400 --> 01:01:01,440
zoning board of appeals did approve that
front yard setback variance after

819
01:00:59,599 --> 01:01:07,280
determining a practical difficulty
existed um predominantly with the septic

820
01:01:04,079 --> 01:01:10,720
system being located where it was. Um
during that month we also received

821
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:17,839
scheduled and attended another variance
hearing for a sideyard setback. Uh it

822
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:22,799
was about 2.55 foot deviation into the
sideyard setback.

823
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:28,799
Sideyard setback is 10 feet. So it was
just a little bit uh under 8 ft. And

824
01:01:27,040 --> 01:01:34,559
there was an existing deck and the
proposal was to remove the deck, expand

825
01:01:30,559 --> 01:01:39,359
the kitchen. Um zoning board appeals uh
her testimony went through the binds of

826
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:42,559
fact. real strong support group with the
neighborhood, which is, you know, always

827
01:01:40,799 --> 01:01:47,839
good for the zoning board of appeals to
have that. But again, the zoning board

828
01:01:44,559 --> 01:01:51,200
appeals uh went through the bindings of
facts and made a determination that

829
01:01:49,359 --> 01:01:57,520
practical difficulty did exist and they
approved a 2.55 foot sideyard setback

830
01:01:54,319 --> 01:02:02,319
variance. Um I received two other
dimensional variants for requests. We're

831
01:01:59,920 --> 01:02:07,040
going to have that hearing on September
10th at 5:00. That might be a busy day,

832
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:12,799
sounds like. So,
>> we'll just cancel ours.

833
01:02:08,319 --> 01:02:19,440
» Okay. Um, one of the variances deals
with uh

834
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:24,319
it's a long bowling alley type lot over
over on the downstream area. Very

835
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:28,880
typical. They're they're legally
substandard in today's world. Uh the

836
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:34,000
applicant or the owner of the property
wants to split them and and from a

837
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:40,640
zoning standpoint, the southern portion
is zoned R1. the northern portion zoned

838
01:02:36,319 --> 01:02:46,000
R2 the R1 lot perfect makes it more
conforming the R2 lot because it's a

839
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:50,559
platted it's existing it doesn't meet
the 150 foot width but it meets the area

840
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:54,240
requirements um so the zoning board of
appeals will review whether or not they

841
01:02:52,079 --> 01:02:59,119
want to approve that that division at
the road to create an R1 R2 it actually

842
01:02:57,359 --> 01:03:04,720
is it becomes a more conforming
situation because it reduces the length

843
01:03:01,119 --> 01:03:08,160
of where on both lots um but that'll be
an interesting one to hear. And the

844
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:15,280
other one is a good old front yard
setback on Crystal Drive.

845
01:03:11,119 --> 01:03:19,200
» So on the upland side of the lake, so
similar to some of the other ones we've

846
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:24,880
seen in the past. Um I will be here
tomorrow for office hours. I officially

847
01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:31,200
started a twoe vacation from my city of
Franker job today. Um, on the 10th I'm

848
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:37,599
going to Indiana, drop my youngest son
off to football camp

849
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:42,160
and we are driving back at 13. So, I'm
going to do my best to be here by 6:30.

850
01:03:39,359 --> 01:03:46,559
I'm going to be hauling in a trailer.
Um, we're going to try that out. My wife

851
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:50,480
and I just bought this. We're all new
and empty nesters.

852
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:57,760
So, uh, our partnership is going to
change back into a marriage. So,

853
01:03:54,160 --> 01:04:02,079
» thank you for sharing that.
But uh I'll do my best to get back for

854
01:04:00,160 --> 01:04:06,799
for the 6:30 p.m. But I'll probably be
running a little bit hot on that. But

855
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:10,960
I'll review the ordinance um and I'll
talk to Mark um about Mr. Miller's

856
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:16,000
project and and what we want to do with
that. Um

857
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:19,440
any questions for me?
>> Walker Wind Coupe. I assume that was a

858
01:04:18,079 --> 01:04:26,240
vacant lot.
>> Yeah. So the that family uh went and

859
01:04:23,119 --> 01:04:31,920
worked with Gunner on a land division.
So their their parcel got split up into

860
01:04:28,880 --> 01:04:37,280
some multiple lots. So this is the first
parcel out of that that's going to be

861
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:40,559
developed. Um 30 foot by 30 foot
dwelling with a

862
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:44,640
» dot.
Find out what the fence is.

863
01:04:42,559 --> 01:04:48,480
» I need to do that tomorrow. I need to
see what's going on. Um, I've been

864
01:04:47,039 --> 01:04:53,200
getting my feelers out there and
nobody's talking. For whatever reason, I

865
01:04:51,039 --> 01:04:57,119
still think it's tied to the the yach
club and too, but it's in, isn't it? It

866
01:04:56,160 --> 01:05:01,680
is, but
>> the fence they Yeah. You know, that's

867
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:06,799
questionable whether about the gravel,
you know, I think if we call it a

868
01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:09,440
parking lot. Yeah. But I don't I'll get
a letter out to them. We'll go from

869
01:05:08,160 --> 01:05:10,400
there and see how we want to deal with
it.

870
01:05:09,839 --> 01:05:16,160
» I'd love to see.
>> I haven't seen much activity lately, but

871
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:20,079
it's definitely improved.
Um,

872
01:05:17,839 --> 01:05:25,839
switch gears briefly and put on my city
of Frankfurt hat. Iron Man would like to

873
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:31,119
do three more years.
So, you're going to be getting an email.

874
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:35,760
You're going to be getting an email that
I drafted today that's going to be

875
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:40,960
technically from myself and the mayor uh
requesting your input and or attendance

876
01:05:39,119 --> 01:05:46,240
at a meeting tentatively scheduled for
September 1st. Are we going to get um

877
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:51,359
administrative money?
>> Um that needs to be discussed and that

878
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:56,480
was discussed today with a meeting that
was held with Iron Man when they

879
01:05:53,760 --> 01:06:01,359
officially announced it to us.
>> I'm going to fight for that.

880
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:06,079
» Yeah, you should. So, all of our medical
first responders countywide are getting

881
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:11,359
paid.
So,

882
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:16,400
but uh the city will not make a decision
till it hears from its partners

883
01:06:14,319 --> 01:06:19,920
which are our townships village and the
county board of commissioners will be a

884
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:23,839
part of that as well.
>> So,

885
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:27,280
say for example, Plat Township says no,
then they just have to reroute it.

886
01:06:25,359 --> 01:06:34,359
» Reroute it.
>> Um any question for Josh?

887
01:06:30,559 --> 01:06:34,359
» Um no.

888
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:42,799
» No.
I did request my assistant at Frankfurt

889
01:06:39,039 --> 01:06:48,319
to email it to every member of every
township village in county. So, not

890
01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:50,799
just, you know, the supervisor, the
clerk. I mean, everybody. That's the

891
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:53,119
instruction. So,
>> just the one that's fighting for admin

892
01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:55,760
money.
>> Well, everybody just just so everybody's

893
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:58,400
aware.
>> Thank you.

894
01:06:56,720 --> 01:07:03,119
» All right. Thank you.
>> Is it okay if I if I leave?

895
01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:09,039
» It sure is. I'm gonna let Sally Casey
ask a quick question. Yes,

896
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:15,599
» we did okay the variance, but we had
seven conditions

897
01:07:11,039 --> 01:07:18,640
» added to that variance that they have to
>> adhere to.

898
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:22,400
» Is that the sadderly? Which one?
>> We have a couple conditions with

899
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:25,760
Saturday, but it's the Placio.
>> Um, we're requiring roof runners all

900
01:07:24,799 --> 01:07:29,039
around the house.
>> Yes. The pesio the two and a half side

901
01:07:28,559 --> 01:07:30,160
up.
>> Yeah.

902
01:07:29,839 --> 01:07:34,000
» Okay.
>> Yeah. several several conditions to to

903
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:37,920
enhance the situation.
>> We're doing that if that happens.

904
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:39,520
» Be the one to make sure they follow the
patients.

905
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:43,280
» Yes.
>> Yeah. And it really boils down to

906
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:45,599
surface water and how we deal with it.
>> You know, you've been working hard for

907
01:07:44,799 --> 01:07:48,960
us. Thank you.
>> All right. Thank you. I'll see you at

908
01:07:47,039 --> 01:07:54,319
tomorrow.
>> Thank you. Thank you.

909
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:59,520
» Enjoy your I'll
>> um skipped my own report. Sorry. Um, and

910
01:07:57,680 --> 01:08:02,960
I'm not going to read it to you. Just
since I wrote this, we got another

911
01:08:01,119 --> 01:08:08,160
application for the ZBA. So, we
currently have three and we just posted

912
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:13,119
it basically. Um, you know, about the
cleaning one

913
01:08:10,079 --> 01:08:17,839
C lamprey. Oh, um, one thing that I
didn't put on my report, you asked me to

914
01:08:15,119 --> 01:08:25,520
look into the possibility of power plan
giving us some reimbursement for this

915
01:08:20,719 --> 01:08:30,960
radar speed signs and um, they did not
do that. It kind of makes sense. They're

916
01:08:27,839 --> 01:08:35,520
our insurance liability company. So,
they're only granting money for things

917
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:40,799
that we would be liable for. If somebody
speeding down the road and hits a kid,

918
01:08:38,239 --> 01:08:47,000
that's not our liability.
But I was glad I asked. Any questions

919
01:08:43,839 --> 01:08:47,000
for me?

920
01:08:48,319 --> 01:08:55,239
» Maline. Maline.
Sure. Sorry.

921
01:08:58,319 --> 01:09:07,520
Um, fire report. Chief Cedarholm, you're
up. And we've got the letter intent down

922
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:11,920
below. I I think we'll wait for that
part under new business. Okay.

923
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:18,239
» Sure.
Um, all of you have a copy of my report.

924
01:09:15,920 --> 01:09:21,920
I highlight a couple of things. Um, the
reminder of the fire advisory committee

925
01:09:19,839 --> 01:09:27,040
will meet on Thursday, August 27th, 2
p.m. with the agreement. Um, one of the

926
01:09:24,799 --> 01:09:31,359
good things is that it's going to be a
pretty crowded meeting. It is an open

927
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:38,080
meeting as we are meeting with NZMS and
the chap meeting with NZMS to form a

928
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:41,040
group uh partnership together to try to
work on next one of their spare

929
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:45,199
ambulances
at our station work back and forth. Um,

930
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:49,279
we're working on staffing and the
details. They're going to have their EMS

931
01:09:47,279 --> 01:09:52,560
people there. our firefighters will be
at that meeting along with all the

932
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:57,120
entities that are pretty much involved
in the fire advisory committee. So the

933
01:09:55,520 --> 01:10:02,960
reason I have their input also I've
invited um [clears throat] Christy

934
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:09,760
Johnson from the hospital and uh her
staff Dr. Ray

935
01:10:06,719 --> 01:10:13,600
once again um
her head nurse is also coming there as

936
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:19,280
well. So we're going to talk about
service and delivery is going to be our

937
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:23,760
our topic. how can we provide the best
service to our fle

938
01:10:22,159 --> 01:10:31,280
um for marine was added to the
department we purchased a small boat um

939
01:10:27,520 --> 01:10:35,920
that we after we got hauled out to over
here in the lake with two teenagers

940
01:10:33,280 --> 01:10:40,640
floundering the water we pulled up
started to deploy our banana boat and

941
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:44,719
said you know it's too windy but they
want getting somebody else another boat

942
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:47,840
they have area that got them you know it
would be nice to have a small boat we

943
01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:52,400
can get on out be happy to because
you've got Ash Lake, you've got, you

944
01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:56,320
know, the two lakes here. Although we
could not go to rough two rough seas

945
01:10:54,320 --> 01:11:00,480
even the national park service was the
one on Sunday was getting swamped on

946
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:04,640
that one because of the the waves that
are out there. The Coast Guard called

947
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:09,679
the helicopter. We set up a loading
landing zone over at Little Lake uh 200

948
01:11:07,679 --> 01:11:14,640
by 200 in order to drop it. But this is
the fifth water call we've had so far

949
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:18,239
this summer. It's been crazy. So
>> I guess obviously that's just for

950
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:22,000
emergency situations. I'm not out
patrolling.

951
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:25,120
» Do that's only get somebody in the water
to give.

952
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:28,640
» Um
so again touch a little bit on ongoing

953
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:32,400
communication with Ben's EMS and
Frankfurt department. We're going to try

954
01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:37,600
to continue to grow. We started uh this
meeting back late last month and we met

955
01:11:35,199 --> 01:11:41,199
again on the third Tom and I did and
we're just continuing to grow to try to

956
01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:46,880
get this uh move forward. overall
positive and kind of way to working

957
01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:51,840
relationship make it happen.
Anybody have any questions?

958
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:54,560
» Thank you very much. Thanks.
>> You're going to stick around, right?

959
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:58,560
Yep. Please.
>> Yep. Thank you.

960
01:11:56,080 --> 01:12:03,920
» Okay, moving on to commissioner updates.
It's actually Christy Trigg's month to

961
01:12:00,719 --> 01:12:11,880
be here. Um I thought we might have
questions for Arjun, so I invited him

962
01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:11,880
too. But Christina, you like to sort of

963
01:12:17,760 --> 01:12:30,239
» Yeah. Um things are happening county. Um
we are still looking for a Benzone

964
01:12:26,159 --> 01:12:35,760
Township location for our um recycled
bins.

965
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:40,800
Um we are doing um an upgrade at the
animal shelter. We're going to put some

966
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:48,080
cameras in. Um there there are cameras
now. It's these cameras um won't be so

967
01:12:44,159 --> 01:12:53,760
localized and so um like administration
can see what's going on at um the animal

968
01:12:52,159 --> 01:12:59,600
shelter.
Um we are embroiled in our budgeting for

969
01:12:57,520 --> 01:13:07,199
the next fiscal year which is not
affected. So this coming fiscal year um

970
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:12,960
26 27 is not affected by the millillage
and so we are working on that right now.

971
01:13:09,920 --> 01:13:17,080
So the millage would affect
the next scenario.

972
01:13:17,280 --> 01:13:25,440
» Um
um so I think you've all heard about um

973
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:33,920
our administrator
um she uh uh resigned and is going back

974
01:13:30,480 --> 01:13:40,560
to um her hometown
um which is um good for her, sad for us.

975
01:13:37,199 --> 01:13:46,880
In the meantime, we are having Leslie
Bilby. She is our deputy administrator.

976
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:56,000
She is going to be our interim
uh administrator. Uh we'll be we will be

977
01:13:51,280 --> 01:14:04,960
paying her um in kind for that. um as we
look for an a new administrator and um

978
01:14:01,679 --> 01:14:09,080
Rhonda is going to be tasked with um
being in charge of that R&D.

979
01:14:10,080 --> 01:14:21,199
» We also
were told at the last meeting that um

980
01:14:17,440 --> 01:14:26,880
Tammy Bowers is retiring.
Um so she is going to be retiring and so

981
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:33,760
there are going to be more changes at
the county. We are losing a lot of um

982
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:36,480
history but um we will do what we can.
>> Does her deputy move up or how does that

983
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:43,600
work?
>> So what will happen is that the um judge

984
01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:49,440
will appoint a um a replacement and of
course Tammy will have some input. We'll

985
01:14:47,040 --> 01:14:53,159
have a probably have a conversation with
the judge about that.

986
01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:58,920
But that's the process. The judge
appoints somebody.

987
01:14:59,920 --> 01:15:05,320
» Anything else?
>> Any more questions for Christie?

988
01:15:06,719 --> 01:15:17,199
» Um, we're we're saving the uh Yes, we
are for art. Well, um, you're I'm glad

989
01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:20,000
you're both here. Art, did you want to
We got your written report. Did you want

990
01:15:18,719 --> 01:15:24,159
to highlight anything on that?
>> Unless you have questions on my report.

991
01:15:22,400 --> 01:15:29,679
You should have had that in advance.
>> Yep, we did. So, thank you. Thanks to

992
01:15:26,480 --> 01:15:36,400
both of you for being here. Um, all
right. New business, letter of intent

993
01:15:32,480 --> 01:15:42,159
for fire equipment grant program.
Chief Cedar, do you want to say anything

994
01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:49,679
about this? State of Michigan is
offering $50,000 per community. Um that

995
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:54,640
includes uh townships, villages, cities,
everybody get within our jurisdiction

996
01:15:51,679 --> 01:16:00,880
that totals our entire response area
that we cover. But uh the grant is

997
01:15:58,320 --> 01:16:06,000
basically is one that they had before
somewhere 2023. When we purchase

998
01:16:03,520 --> 01:16:11,040
something, they will reimburse us up to
that. and we need desperately about

999
01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:16,000
$146,000 worth of self-contained
breathing apparatus equipment. And uh

1000
01:16:14,239 --> 01:16:20,320
the way that I think the grant reads and
I'm going to get into it is first of all

1001
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:25,920
we have to apply for put our name on it.
Okay. And then as we're warning we're

1002
01:16:22,159 --> 01:16:29,520
allowed we have up to 20 2030 to pay it
you know to get everything within that

1003
01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:33,440
grant. So this gives us I guess an
extended period of time in order to

1004
01:16:31,199 --> 01:16:38,080
purchase the $146,000
worth of equipments.

1005
01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:43,840
Okay. So, if the board members are
interested, we just need a motion to

1006
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:47,920
um approve this letter of intent that
was in your packet.

1007
01:16:46,239 --> 01:16:52,800
» I'll make a motion. I approve this
letter of intent for the Frankfurt Fire

1008
01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:57,040
Department.
>> Motion by Good Me for Vickle. Any

1009
01:16:54,960 --> 01:17:02,960
questions for the chief or any
discussion?

1010
01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:06,320
» Pretty straightforward. Okay. Um let's
have a roll call.

1011
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:07,520
Marian Goodman.
>> Hi.

1012
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:10,560
» Mary Pitcher.
>> Hi.

1013
01:17:08,159 --> 01:17:12,400
» Annie Georgovich. I
>> Joel Quin.

1014
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:16,199
» Hi.
>> Kyle or

1015
01:17:13,199 --> 01:17:16,199
» hi.

1016
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:23,600
» Motion carried.
>> Okay. Now the biggie township operating

1017
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:26,800
millillage. Um
Marian I believe is going to take the

1018
01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:32,320
lead on this. I just wanted to mention
that um

1019
01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:37,760
we got I contacted MTA's attorney
yesterday and was told that yes the

1020
01:17:35,679 --> 01:17:41,840
townships can do their own operating
millage which is I think which how we

1021
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:46,560
were already thinking and then
apparently the county has had

1022
01:17:43,679 --> 01:17:52,560
conflicting legal opinions as to that.
Um

1023
01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:57,440
so I'm going to turn it over.
>> Okay. Yeah. as far as the um

1024
01:17:56,239 --> 01:18:01,199
the operating mill.
>> I'm sorry, one more thing. This is

1025
01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:07,360
because the um the millillage went down
by nine votes that had the override. So,

1026
01:18:05,679 --> 01:18:12,080
» um sorry far as the township operating
millage, I think if we were to put

1027
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:17,520
something on the ballot, we need to put
an extra voted millage, not an operating

1028
01:18:14,480 --> 01:18:21,840
mill per se, which I believe we can
legally do.

1029
01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:26,000
So yeah, what we have, you know, the the
what we have would have to be rewarded

1030
01:18:23,679 --> 01:18:31,360
to extra voted millage instead of um
township operating millage.

1031
01:18:28,400 --> 01:18:34,960
You know, the the township treasures
have had, you know, ongoing emails

1032
01:18:33,440 --> 01:18:41,280
through this process. What are we going
to do if this doesn't work? Because this

1033
01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:48,480
is our townships too. Um some have not
been a part of conversations, other ones

1034
01:18:43,199 --> 01:18:53,280
have. Um there's there's a handful.
My guess is for if we were to do

1035
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:58,320
something that I know of that would want
to put something on the ballot in

1036
01:18:54,800 --> 01:19:02,080
November sort of as a backup measure,
you know, because if if it were to fail

1037
01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:06,320
again,
then we're at zero,

1038
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:11,199
I think. Although that was very
confusing because this is everybody's

1039
01:19:09,120 --> 01:19:17,840
thinking. So, this is why you have that
wording in front of you. And I also

1040
01:19:14,239 --> 01:19:23,120
picked around some numbers. Oh, yeah. My
my thinking on this is if we wanted to

1041
01:19:20,159 --> 01:19:27,280
do this um we had the one in front of
you if everybody still has this says six

1042
01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:32,159
years. I really think we should
reconsider it and go two years and that

1043
01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:36,000
lets our residents know this is just
sort of a little stop gap thing until

1044
01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:40,080
things get figured out. You know they
they are not at risk of people double

1045
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:46,080
dipping for six years. They have to
trust us for two that we would only levy

1046
01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:52,320
it if we needed to. Um the amount of the
millillage um I put this on here uh Mary

1047
01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:57,040
and I talked and we decided 0 53 which
is very rough numbers on what we we will

1048
01:19:54,880 --> 01:20:04,400
be getting currently.
Um I gave you another sheet that has

1049
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:10,880
other options on it. It was like um
3 is what the proposed language is that

1050
01:20:06,480 --> 01:20:15,679
gives us 197 change,000 and change half
a mill would be 186 6.6 six would be

1051
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:24,960
223.
Um, our current 2026 rate is 0.524,

1052
01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:28,239
which brings us 195,500.
Um,

1053
01:20:26,560 --> 01:20:34,880
I am not really good. And this was like
a 10-minute quicky thing. Um, a

1054
01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:39,840
10-minute quicky thing the other day on
what we might be getting on our 2027,

1055
01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:45,960
next year's taxes. And that would I'm
thinking maybe be 0.5197 which would get

1056
01:20:42,719 --> 01:20:45,960
us $193,000.

1057
01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:55,840
All that being said um you know this
township can can I would say easily we

1058
01:20:53,280 --> 01:21:00,640
can last one year without that money
after that. You just don't know. We have

1059
01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:04,000
a pretty hefty expense category too
depending if we're going to do roads

1060
01:21:02,159 --> 01:21:09,120
because I know that was pretty much our
invention. I don't know how financially

1061
01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:14,159
responsible it is to just not do
anything for two years and dig a hole

1062
01:21:11,440 --> 01:21:17,159
that then you have to climb out of.
Um,

1063
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:23,440
so, oh, the bad news on this, from what
I'm hearing, language would have to be

1064
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:28,159
in if you want this on a November
ballot, language has to be in like

1065
01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:32,480
either the 11th or the 13th. Like
>> 4 p.m. on the 11th.

1066
01:21:30,159 --> 01:21:36,560
» Has to be to our clerk or to the county
clerk. I believe it's the county clerk.

1067
01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:39,280
» Okay. See, and I I've been hearing
conflict conflicts there too, but very

1068
01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:43,840
soon. So,
>> you'd want to confirm that.

1069
01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:45,760
» Yeah. Thank you. So, that's why I was
>> Everybody feels like they're under the

1070
01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:48,480
gun here.
>> I was hoping we could wait till our

1071
01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:51,360
special meeting.
>> I you know, I hope you're not going to

1072
01:21:50,159 --> 01:21:54,960
do any of it.
>> Okay. So, I just came in this like right

1073
01:21:53,600 --> 01:22:01,520
before the meeting. I looked at my email
thread from the local treasures and this

1074
01:21:58,480 --> 01:22:08,000
is a quote from the equalization
director because he was asked about some

1075
01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:11,440
of this stuff too. And he said um well I
don't know the exact question the

1076
01:22:09,679 --> 01:22:15,840
specifics of that possibility are coming
into focus as we continue to gather

1077
01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:20,880
information but I will do my best below.
He said, "Speaking plainly, the worstc

1078
01:22:18,560 --> 01:22:25,199
case scenario for the township in the
event we are forced into a county

1079
01:22:22,880 --> 01:22:33,280
allocation board would be a pretty
headly reduction of from 1.21 mills to

1080
01:22:30,159 --> 01:22:38,080
1.0 mills, which is the minimum allowed
by law. But then it goes on to say,

1081
01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:42,800
however, from the cumul from there, the
cumulative headly roll back would apply

1082
01:22:40,719 --> 01:22:49,199
in the case of that other township that
would result in a reduction of to around

1083
01:22:45,520 --> 01:22:54,960
0.53 which is what we were talking. So
I'm really confused on that. If if it

1084
01:22:52,400 --> 01:23:00,320
got approved at 0.1 it would
automatically reduce to see I thought

1085
01:22:57,600 --> 01:23:03,679
that sounded weird too but it's all last
minute so I don't know what to do. I

1086
01:23:02,560 --> 01:23:07,360
don't have to research it.
>> I just wish we had more time.

1087
01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:13,600
» I do too. I mean I don't make special
needs I have one month. You know the

1088
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:17,199
millage language you have was was from
our attorney.

1089
01:23:15,440 --> 01:23:20,880
» If we wanted to tweak it, we would
certainly change the year

1090
01:23:19,280 --> 01:23:25,840
» and the up to
>> up

1091
01:23:22,639 --> 01:23:30,480
like up to levy up to that amount.
Certainly we have enough and we all know

1092
01:23:28,639 --> 01:23:35,440
we would
>> if if it goes on the ballot in November,

1093
01:23:33,120 --> 01:23:41,520
the county one and it passes
>> and this passes, we're not levying it.

1094
01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:44,560
We only need the one or the other. Trust
us. This

1095
01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:47,679
» Well, we would have to give that out to
our residents, which, you know, I don't

1096
01:23:46,639 --> 01:23:53,600
think would be terrible in this
township. I really don't. But that's

1097
01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:59,280
that's my opinion. Um, this is from
Richard Wilson. Yes. So, clearly our

1098
01:23:56,320 --> 01:24:04,639
attorney thinks that we can do this. Um,
like we talked there was mis there were

1099
01:24:02,320 --> 01:24:11,520
um mixed opinions on that, but obviously
our attorney thinks we can do that. Um,

1100
01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:16,560
my big concern, I mean, it lost by nine
votes. Um, I think there's a good chance

1101
01:24:14,239 --> 01:24:20,400
it could pass in November. And I don't
want

1102
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:24,520
» our individual village to jeopardize the
county. I think

1103
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:24,520
» that's

1104
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:30,320
kind of
>> because ultimately the county, it's

1105
01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:35,520
going to be resolved at the county
level. We're all in trouble anyway.

1106
01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:37,760
» I agree.
That's my concern.

1107
01:24:37,600 --> 01:24:42,159
It
>> just feels fiscally irresponsible to

1108
01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:46,000
say, "Oh, you're getting no operating
money." So that's why we started all

1109
01:24:44,480 --> 01:24:50,159
this.
>> How much does a special election cost?

1110
01:24:48,239 --> 01:24:54,840
» It's um the one that we had for
Frankfurt, Alberta was just shy of

1111
01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:54,840
3,000.

1112
01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:59,840
» Because everybody Well, that's only
Frankfurt, Alberta school. So too,

1113
01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:04,529
that's a very small section of our
township.

1114
01:25:01,280 --> 01:25:04,529
» That's [laughter]

1115
01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:09,080
Yeah. I don't

1116
01:25:10,159 --> 01:25:13,280
Is the county going forward again?
>> Um,

1117
01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:15,760
» yes,
>> we believe so.

1118
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:22,239
» Actually, yes. Do you want to talk about
the tax allocation board meeting?

1119
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:27,199
» Tax allocation board met yesterday and
at the end of that meeting, they they

1120
01:25:24,239 --> 01:25:30,080
came up with what they recommend, what
they believe they're going to recommend

1121
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:33,199
to the board of commissioners to
approve. And I have notes in my phone.

1122
01:25:32,480 --> 01:25:36,800
I'm sorry.
>> Just for clarification, it's an advisory

1123
01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:39,679
board, not an allocation board.
>> There you go. Thank you.

1124
01:25:38,639 --> 01:25:43,199
» There's a difference.
>> Okay, that's where I heard too. It has

1125
01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:48,880
to be called an extra voting mill, not
an operating our planet. Okay, so what

1126
01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:52,639
they what they said at the end that they
they agreed that they were going to

1127
01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:56,480
present to the
commissioners that they are going to

1128
01:25:54,800 --> 01:26:01,280
take off the extra millages that they
had were going to roll in and and get

1129
01:25:59,440 --> 01:26:05,040
that out of the way. Two of them will
have to be on the ballot standalone on

1130
01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:07,920
by themsel because they are expired.
That's the animal control and the drug

1131
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:12,239
enforcement will have to be on the
ballot by themsel. The other one I

1132
01:26:10,000 --> 01:26:15,840
believe is the TNT officer one. That one
still has another year to go. So we're

1133
01:26:14,159 --> 01:26:20,080
leaving that one for them. But that will
lower what they need to ask for and they

1134
01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:24,400
can decide on those standalone.
>> That's school resource officer Marian.

1135
01:26:22,639 --> 01:26:26,480
» No, school resource officer was not
touched.

1136
01:26:25,199 --> 01:26:28,239
» That's what I'm saying.
>> Right.

1137
01:26:26,880 --> 01:26:32,480
» I thought you just said that it goes
another year. TNT. drug and

1138
01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:34,719
» the TNT is different than the school
resource officer. Yes.

1139
01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:35,760
» Never.
>> Okay.

1140
01:26:35,040 --> 01:26:41,360
» Go ahead.
>> Got it. Okay. Um they're going to

1141
01:26:39,199 --> 01:26:45,280
instead of 1.21 for the townships,
they're going to put that at one, which

1142
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:50,719
is fine with us. We don't collect that
much anyway. We don't want that much.

1143
01:26:47,199 --> 01:26:54,320
Okay. The county is going to be at 3.77.
Can't remember what theirs was before

1144
01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:58,080
that, but if in November, they're going
to say that much for the county. I don't

1145
01:26:56,719 --> 01:27:02,480
remember what it was for the schools,
but the total for all three will be 4.93

1146
01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:06,800
mills,
which they plan to put on the ballot in

1147
01:27:04,560 --> 01:27:11,520
November. Like vote for that for the two
years, and it's going to mean the county

1148
01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:15,199
at 377, the townships at one, and the
rest of it for the ISD.

1149
01:27:13,040 --> 01:27:18,960
» What was just voted down was that with
the middle

1150
01:27:17,120 --> 01:27:20,480
» 1.21 for the townships, that's all I
remember.

1151
01:27:19,360 --> 01:27:24,639
» Okay.
>> But but they're back to the two-year

1152
01:27:22,159 --> 01:27:29,760
rather than the fix. They're
>> they had it was two years this time

1153
01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:33,760
» and I people just didn't realize two
years ago they started this by taking

1154
01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:38,880
that word away. It's like this was our
two years. We have to vote on it. People

1155
01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:42,560
didn't realize it affected townships.
They

1156
01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:46,480
» really didn't
though.

1157
01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:49,840
» You voted to to do this two years ago.
You said you were going to do this and

1158
01:27:48,480 --> 01:27:55,120
now you're freaking out. Sorry.
>> The county was 4.4399.

1159
01:27:53,040 --> 01:28:00,679
Okay. Now 3.7
>> the county was on the ballot was 4.4399

1160
01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:07,679
» but that's that was including the mill.
>> No that was just for the county part

1161
01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:13,560
» but the standalone
>> there a couple of things.

1162
01:28:09,360 --> 01:28:13,560
» Right. So that's lower right.

1163
01:28:14,080 --> 01:28:20,239
» So they're you know that was they're
they're saying let's change it up a

1164
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:25,040
little. Let's lower it. Let's try to you
know get people to stay together. Ohio.

1165
01:28:22,880 --> 01:28:29,520
» I feel really strongly that I don't want
to dilute the vote and to the point that

1166
01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:34,760
it might be worth holding a special
election if it fails in November. That's

1167
01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:34,760
my opinion.

1168
01:28:36,000 --> 01:28:45,120
» It's it's it's it's a tough decision
because our money.

1169
01:28:41,679 --> 01:28:46,960
» Oh, well, it's not that
>> right.

1170
01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:49,920
» Right.
>> Yeah. It's not that. It's just Yes.

1171
01:28:48,560 --> 01:28:53,600
Don't want to pull anything away from
that vote.

1172
01:28:50,719 --> 01:29:00,239
» It does. there was already confusion as
to you know I think adding this I mean I

1173
01:28:57,199 --> 01:29:03,280
think it's well-intentioned but I think
there needs to be a little more

1174
01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:07,360
explanation as you said you know people
did not know I think there's more

1175
01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:11,120
education out there then but I think
adding this to people are going well

1176
01:29:08,960 --> 01:29:13,840
what and then there's that element of
trust and yeah we can take it we don't

1177
01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:19,679
have to take it
>> and trust the township not the county

1178
01:29:17,199 --> 01:29:23,960
» so I I would agree with you Mary that it
would

1179
01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:23,960
Yeah.

1180
01:29:31,679 --> 01:29:41,199
» Given the surplus that we have,
I think you can I think you it was it

1181
01:29:37,840 --> 01:29:46,800
was cultural than I thought. Um and if
it's given some more time for people to

1182
01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:49,360
truly digest it.
I would still like to see Canard. I

1183
01:29:48,480 --> 01:29:56,080
don't know how you do this. I don't know
if it's even legal, but like, you know,

1184
01:29:53,440 --> 01:30:03,280
in the in the social media world, I
mean, can the county engage

1185
01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:08,400
a firm to respond
basically to the ignorance, right? I

1186
01:30:06,159 --> 01:30:15,120
mean, some I don't know if the county
can do it, but can the county engage

1187
01:30:10,480 --> 01:30:19,280
someone to say, "No, you are 100% wrong
on this, and this is this is what we're

1188
01:30:17,520 --> 01:30:25,440
asking.
an outside lobbyist because you I mean I

1189
01:30:23,280 --> 01:30:29,840
thought I thought very what I I mean all
the comments that I read like this thing

1190
01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:37,239
doesn't have a chance thankful it's only
nine votes but people did not understand

1191
01:30:33,520 --> 01:30:37,239
even the ballot language

1192
01:30:38,080 --> 01:30:43,120
» it was horrible
>> votes but there wasn't a lot of voters

1193
01:30:41,679 --> 01:30:46,880
in November there's going to be a lot
more voters right yeah is that going to

1194
01:30:44,880 --> 01:30:49,920
be helpful or hurtful we don't really
know either

1195
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:52,960
or do you have an answer to Kyle's
question?

1196
01:30:50,800 --> 01:30:57,600
» Yeah, I do. I would never spend taxpayer
money to advocate for the county

1197
01:30:55,600 --> 01:31:00,880
village. Not only is it illegal, but
it's immoral to use the taxpayers money

1198
01:30:59,920 --> 01:31:04,239
to do that.
Yes.

1199
01:31:01,360 --> 01:31:11,920
» But to to answer your question,
um last year, early this year, um I was

1200
01:31:08,639 --> 01:31:16,639
able to encourage the Benzy County
Chamber to advocate, consider it like

1201
01:31:14,719 --> 01:31:22,400
they did at the busing gra the busing
authority, be friends of of the county.

1202
01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:27,120
So, they're the ones that have been
reaching out and it's been an anonymous

1203
01:31:24,239 --> 01:31:33,199
donor that's been paying for it for yard
signs, ads, etc. Would we continue that?

1204
01:31:31,040 --> 01:31:40,000
I had a conversation just as recently as
this morning and they're ready to go um

1205
01:31:36,800 --> 01:31:46,560
to support this again.
The county's millage ask if you strip

1206
01:31:42,400 --> 01:31:51,600
away the special millages was 3.98.
>> Okay.

1207
01:31:47,760 --> 01:31:56,960
» The reason why we landed at 3.77,
it's the same reduction as what we're

1208
01:31:54,320 --> 01:32:03,120
asking of the townships.
Townships are going down by 0.21. 21

1209
01:32:00,159 --> 01:32:08,560
counties going down by 0.21. So, we're
trying to share in the pain.

1210
01:32:05,679 --> 01:32:12,080
I I got to tell you that the need hasn't
changed.

1211
01:32:10,159 --> 01:32:16,080
There was a there was way too much
conversation for me on this subject over

1212
01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:20,320
the last couple of weeks, but the
reality of it is this is that there was

1213
01:32:18,080 --> 01:32:23,840
some discussion about just asking for a
renewal. Quite frankly, I would have

1214
01:32:22,480 --> 01:32:28,000
gone to the voters and asked for
additional money if we didn't need it.

1215
01:32:25,920 --> 01:32:31,679
And if I come back to them without
making that request, I can tell you that

1216
01:32:30,320 --> 01:32:36,239
if I'm on the outside of that
conversation, I would say, why did you

1217
01:32:34,080 --> 01:32:40,560
ask for the money to begin with?
>> There's still a need. What's happened

1218
01:32:37,920 --> 01:32:45,760
was is there's been a lot of
discussions, hours of it just in the

1219
01:32:42,320 --> 01:32:51,040
last 24 to 48 hours is that we're
changing

1220
01:32:48,480 --> 01:32:56,560
from a long-term vision for the county
to a short-term vision.

1221
01:32:53,600 --> 01:33:01,520
And when we can prove the trust issue,
you know, 2 years from now, maybe we can

1222
01:32:59,120 --> 01:33:05,920
prove to the voters and the taxpayers
that we're being responsible. Then maybe

1223
01:33:04,080 --> 01:33:10,159
they'd be willing to fund a longer term
vision. But we're just shortening the

1224
01:33:08,080 --> 01:33:13,320
vision down by reducing the amount of
money that's

1225
01:33:18,320 --> 01:33:25,120
» Honey, you didn't totally weigh in on
this.

1226
01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:30,320
Don't go away. That's okay.
>> I mean, I I just I I

1227
01:33:27,679 --> 01:33:35,199
see the importance that to be fiscally
responsible,

1228
01:33:32,320 --> 01:33:38,800
having it on the ballot would be
beneficial, but there's a downside

1229
01:33:37,280 --> 01:33:45,520
because with both of them being on the
ballot, it can take attention away. And

1230
01:33:43,600 --> 01:33:49,280
I'm
I'm half yes and half no. You know

1231
01:33:48,320 --> 01:33:52,880
that's
>> trying to be there for the county but

1232
01:33:50,800 --> 01:34:00,000
right being there for the county
actually hurts the county

1233
01:33:55,679 --> 01:34:04,639
» then it'll hurt then
be fighters

1234
01:34:02,000 --> 01:34:08,639
think it should be discussion
>> okay the ballot language

1235
01:34:07,520 --> 01:34:12,880
» legal council
>> oh they did a happy job

1236
01:34:10,560 --> 01:34:16,960
» well if you look at ballot language in
the counties

1237
01:34:14,080 --> 01:34:19,600
» it all looks the same
about that blame blame the state for

1238
01:34:18,880 --> 01:34:24,000
that.
>> Don't blame the the legal council.

1239
01:34:22,800 --> 01:34:26,960
» We have to tell them what it really
means.

1240
01:34:24,880 --> 01:34:29,840
» I guess what I just want to say is
everybody that I had talked to said, "Oh

1241
01:34:28,639 --> 01:34:32,880
my god, nobody wants to especially
election. They're really really

1242
01:34:30,880 --> 01:34:37,040
expensive.
>> That's not that expensive."

1243
01:34:34,719 --> 01:34:40,880
» No, that's I I looked and again that was
that was the Frankfurt, Alberta. And it

1244
01:34:38,639 --> 01:34:44,639
was because I had easy access to that.
[laughter] But it cost us $10,000.

1245
01:34:43,280 --> 01:34:49,199
Really, when we're talking about a
couple hundred thousand or potentially

1246
01:34:46,239 --> 01:34:51,760
taking away votes,
>> I would say no. Let's not do it. I'm

1247
01:34:51,360 --> 01:34:53,120
with you.
>> So, you'd be okay with that?

1248
01:34:52,800 --> 01:34:56,000
» Yeah.
>> Yeah.

1249
01:34:53,760 --> 01:35:02,000
» I I don't want to do it. I just want to
us to be smart. But but that's all it

1250
01:34:58,080 --> 01:35:08,719
would cost us to to go at it later if
>> it that's the reason I looked it up is

1251
01:35:04,960 --> 01:35:14,080
just Well, what are we talking? So if we
have consensus, we don't even need a

1252
01:35:10,320 --> 01:35:19,760
motion. Good. That was just onational.
Christie Art, thank you for being here.

1253
01:35:18,320 --> 01:35:24,960
» Made sense for what you're doing. I know
this is, you know, we just sense

1254
01:35:23,120 --> 01:35:29,120
» and Marian, thanks for a lot of the work
that you put in in gathering this down

1255
01:35:27,040 --> 01:35:34,719
the road. Who knows? But
>> Oh, yeah. We're not passing into this.

1256
01:35:32,159 --> 01:35:42,800
Okay. Marian
Cers.

1257
01:35:37,040 --> 01:35:47,040
» Yes. Um I oversight on on um the office
part. We have a new employee and I do

1258
01:35:45,199 --> 01:35:51,360
not believe we have updated our bank
signature people and we have a new

1259
01:35:49,679 --> 01:35:54,639
deputy who needs to be one of the
signers.

1260
01:35:52,320 --> 01:35:58,320
» So pretty much it's it's um the banks
need to see in our minutes that we have

1261
01:35:56,400 --> 01:36:01,199
who we have approved to be. So I'm going
to read my motion here. And

1262
01:35:59,679 --> 01:36:05,600
» can you tell us who currently are the
signers?

1263
01:36:02,800 --> 01:36:10,159
Uh, currently currently it's everybody
I'm reading except it's Jane because she

1264
01:36:08,400 --> 01:36:14,239
was the last deputy clerk. We have a new
deputy clerk. So taking Jane off. Yes.

1265
01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:16,080
Well, that's not how it works. We're
just saying these are

1266
01:36:15,360 --> 01:36:19,920
» this is what we want.
>> This is what the banks got. Okay. Okay.

1267
01:36:17,920 --> 01:36:25,760
So, I'd like to make a motion that we
approve the following people as um

1268
01:36:22,400 --> 01:36:30,800
official signers on Lake Township bank
accounts um except for the tax account

1269
01:36:28,480 --> 01:36:34,639
which I'll get to. Um the four people
would be Maryanne Goodman, Maline Bitsen

1270
01:36:32,800 --> 01:36:39,520
Powell, Penny Georgovich, Jennifer
Wilkins, and also we would have

1271
01:36:37,840 --> 01:36:43,520
authorized signers on the Lake Township
tax account of Maryanne Goodman and

1272
01:36:41,280 --> 01:36:46,400
Maline Bits and Powell. It's a different
type of account and we're the only ones

1273
01:36:45,119 --> 01:36:48,719
that need to sign it.
>> Um there's support for

1274
01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:54,239
» I would support that.
>> Thank you.

1275
01:36:49,600 --> 01:36:59,119
» By Goodman, supported by George.
Anything else? Um, it needs to be in the

1276
01:36:57,679 --> 01:37:04,560
minutes so I can take a copy to the bank
and get to roll it. All in favor say I.

1277
01:37:03,920 --> 01:37:08,960
I
>> opposed. Motion carried.

1278
01:37:06,560 --> 01:37:15,040
» Thank you, Mayor Ann.
>> All right. Unfinished business. I don't

1279
01:37:10,960 --> 01:37:19,840
see anything any correspondence.
>> Um,

1280
01:37:17,360 --> 01:37:24,400
conservation district had sent us an
update of some of the events that they

1281
01:37:21,360 --> 01:37:28,000
have coming uh coming up in the month of
August.

1282
01:37:25,840 --> 01:37:33,600
Um, one of which I'll be telling you
about a little bit later. We had uh the

1283
01:37:30,159 --> 01:37:40,560
Darcy Library, the Benzy Shores District
Library send their newsletters. Um,

1284
01:37:38,159 --> 01:37:46,719
we got an update from the Plat River
Fish Hatchery,

1285
01:37:42,560 --> 01:37:51,760
Benzy Senior Resource, and the Benzonia
Public Library.

1286
01:37:48,560 --> 01:37:55,360
All are incoming, and we had nothing
outgoing.

1287
01:37:53,119 --> 01:37:59,520
» Thank you. All right, we're on to
announcements and general board

1288
01:37:57,040 --> 01:38:05,360
discussion.
Um Joel,

1289
01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:11,840
» Saturday is the last clean up day
trash of the year. Yes. Thank you. No

1290
01:38:09,520 --> 01:38:17,760
more there.
>> Yeah. So, we have a we should be good

1291
01:38:14,880 --> 01:38:23,199
with volunteers, but if anybody um is
interested,

1292
01:38:20,080 --> 01:38:27,600
please you're welcome.
Anything else?

1293
01:38:26,239 --> 01:38:30,600
» Thanks for all the work you're doing on
>> clean.

1294
01:38:32,560 --> 01:38:40,639
» I think we've covered
[laughter] going to stay accurate on the

1295
01:38:36,800 --> 01:38:45,280
planning commission level. Um,
I'm going to I I would request that if

1296
01:38:42,960 --> 01:38:50,639
someone can give me a written
articulated

1297
01:38:47,520 --> 01:38:55,600
exactly why we need this village so when
people come to me I can say

1298
01:38:53,679 --> 01:38:58,000
» the headline the the county.
>> Yes. Yes. I need it.

1299
01:38:57,440 --> 01:39:05,600
» Sure.
>> I need plain and simple and I will do my

1300
01:39:02,000 --> 01:39:10,000
part. I will do my part.
our commissioners that

1301
01:39:08,159 --> 01:39:15,920
» um I thought maybe we should do a quick
touch on Iron Man as a board because

1302
01:39:12,639 --> 01:39:19,920
that meeting is before we meet again.
>> You know, are we all yay? Nay, don't

1303
01:39:18,960 --> 01:39:23,040
care. You know,
>> this one we're committed to, but it

1304
01:39:21,920 --> 01:39:25,119
sound like they're going to ask us to
commit to three more years.

1305
01:39:23,920 --> 01:39:29,440
» Yeah, that's what he said. And he said
they're meeting like September 1st.

1306
01:39:27,840 --> 01:39:33,199
» I mean, maybe they don't need an okay.
Wait, did they need an okay then? We

1307
01:39:30,880 --> 01:39:37,280
haven't really seen this,
but we weren't seeing it either.

1308
01:39:35,440 --> 01:39:42,800
» Um, they're having the meeting, I think,
to find out. I'm not sure if we respond

1309
01:39:41,040 --> 01:39:48,480
before. Yeah.
>> Well, and that would be good to know

1310
01:39:44,480 --> 01:39:54,639
what other townships are thinking. Um,
Crystal Lake is, I think, hesitant, but

1311
01:39:52,239 --> 01:39:59,520
I'm going to just said, let's take a
year or two, Bob. Let us rest and then

1312
01:39:57,280 --> 01:40:02,000
come back again,
you know.

1313
01:40:02,239 --> 01:40:08,239
I get complaints for sure.
>> Probably have a lot more at stake than a

1314
01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:11,520
lot of us in this. Any opinion one way
or the other?

1315
01:40:09,679 --> 01:40:16,960
» I will hold the same opinion that I've
had from the start. If it's if it's good

1316
01:40:13,840 --> 01:40:22,080
for Benzy County, I can stand down for
one day.

1317
01:40:20,080 --> 01:40:29,199
Uh I'm not sure it's as good for Beny
County as as we thought.

1318
01:40:26,159 --> 01:40:33,920
And that's and I know it's very popular.
Um it's I believe it's the most popular

1319
01:40:31,119 --> 01:40:40,400
race in North America
for the for the short half um

1320
01:40:38,960 --> 01:40:42,400
» for profit reasons.
>> Yes.

1321
01:40:41,920 --> 01:40:47,679
» See how
>> and I and I would say if if if any

1322
01:40:45,119 --> 01:40:53,920
township drops out from what I've heard
the state police will not move the route

1323
01:40:50,159 --> 01:40:58,960
the route is the route.
So I there's I think there's two

1324
01:40:56,320 --> 01:41:02,320
townships that
are considering

1325
01:41:00,320 --> 01:41:06,239
» I guess as long as they don't need a a
commitment from us on September 1st then

1326
01:41:04,800 --> 01:41:09,600
we can just kind of feel our way
through. I was under the impression that

1327
01:41:07,520 --> 01:41:12,800
maybe they really wanted an answer and I
should talk about

1328
01:41:11,440 --> 01:41:16,159
» I'll go to the meeting but I won't make
a commitment one way or the other. So

1329
01:41:14,800 --> 01:41:21,600
» yeah, sounds like we're all ready to the
meeting too but yeah.

1330
01:41:18,239 --> 01:41:25,520
» Okay. You want to go in my plate?
>> No. Anything else?

1331
01:41:24,800 --> 01:41:28,480
» Do you have anything?
>> No. Iron Man will show anything I had

1332
01:41:27,040 --> 01:41:32,719
written down. Thank you.
>> Annie, do you have any?

1333
01:41:30,239 --> 01:41:37,520
» I do. Um, the Benzy Conservation
District had uh given a call on August

1334
01:41:35,920 --> 01:41:42,239
28th. One of the events that they're
having is to train about education. They

1335
01:41:39,840 --> 01:41:47,840
are starting off at Riverside. Riverside
is contributing 50% for that. Um they

1336
01:41:45,760 --> 01:41:51,920
have asked because let's see they're
going to paddle down. They will stop at

1337
01:41:50,320 --> 01:41:56,080
the wear and possibly a couple other
places talk about conservation and water

1338
01:41:54,239 --> 01:42:02,320
quality and things like that. They want
to set up a couple tables down at the

1339
01:41:57,840 --> 01:42:06,000
park um for where they end up. They
11:00 a.m. to 3 p.m. is what they've

1340
01:42:04,560 --> 01:42:09,600
asked for.
>> And I just I

1341
01:42:09,040 --> 01:42:13,320
» Pardon.
>> What day of the week? Uh

1342
01:42:14,880 --> 01:42:20,159
» Wednesday's the 28th.
>> It is a Friday.

1343
01:42:19,199 --> 01:42:22,320
» Friday.
>> It's not going to involve any parking,

1344
01:42:21,679 --> 01:42:25,199
right?
>> No, because all all they've asked for is

1345
01:42:24,560 --> 01:42:28,159
two tables.
>> The tables are going to the correct

1346
01:42:27,440 --> 01:42:31,679
parking lot,
>> right? By

1347
01:42:29,360 --> 01:42:35,920
» right take action on that.
>> No, no, it was just I I more or less

1348
01:42:33,280 --> 01:42:38,400
wanted to because as I I told her I
didn't see that there would be any

1349
01:42:37,040 --> 01:42:41,679
problem. I says, "But just let me just
run it past the board. make make sure

1350
01:42:40,159 --> 01:42:44,159
that there's not something that I'm not
thinking about,

1351
01:42:42,639 --> 01:42:49,199
» especially if it's a good cause.
>> Yeah. Um I do have one other thing.

1352
01:42:46,960 --> 01:42:52,960
» We give the person a heads up though
>> that that's going to happen that so they

1353
01:42:51,040 --> 01:42:59,440
don't kind of give them a hard time.
>> Oh, good point. I know that.

1354
01:42:56,320 --> 01:43:06,560
Um, I have been in conversation with the
government teacher at Frankfurt, Alberta

1355
01:43:02,400 --> 01:43:11,520
schools about doing election education
and taking a look at calendar and things

1356
01:43:08,880 --> 01:43:16,400
like that. And I had heard about this
from the Traverse City Schools that they

1357
01:43:14,080 --> 01:43:21,440
are doing that for educating the the
seniors on what it's like to go in

1358
01:43:19,360 --> 01:43:27,840
voting. They actually take election
equipment and um election source

1359
01:43:24,159 --> 01:43:32,400
provides a kit that has programming and
fake ballots, you know, uh with, you

1360
01:43:30,400 --> 01:43:36,000
know, some famous people or things like
that so the kids can actually go through

1361
01:43:33,920 --> 01:43:39,199
the voting process.
And

1362
01:43:37,760 --> 01:43:44,400
through my conversation, I thought, you
know what, I probably need to see is

1363
01:43:42,400 --> 01:43:50,480
there is there any reason that we
wouldn't want to participate with this?

1364
01:43:46,080 --> 01:43:56,639
I I have a potential of um Benzy Central
down the road and it's just I

1365
01:43:53,520 --> 01:44:00,159
is would it be okay to do that?
>> Sounds like it would just be you.

1366
01:43:58,480 --> 01:44:03,199
» It would be me. Um I have some other
clerks that would be interested in

1367
01:44:01,600 --> 01:44:04,719
participating. So it wouldn't just be
me, but

1368
01:44:03,760 --> 01:44:08,000
» the township goes
>> as far as the township goes. Yeah. But

1369
01:44:06,159 --> 01:44:11,280
it would be also Lake Township
equipment.

1370
01:44:09,520 --> 01:44:16,400
» Yeah. I would I would take a tabulator
and an e full book and um so

1371
01:44:14,400 --> 01:44:20,719
» you're going to get it there.
>> But they're just we have one that's

1372
01:44:18,639 --> 01:44:24,639
collapsible. It's just a it's almost
like t taking a really heavy laptop and

1373
01:44:23,837 --> 01:44:30,320
[laughter]
the the bin folds up.

1374
01:44:28,159 --> 01:44:32,719
» When was that? or you just don't know
you're just thinking

1375
01:44:31,119 --> 01:44:37,280
» actually for the for the government
teacher the timing that we were thinking

1376
01:44:34,400 --> 01:44:42,400
about because through conversation I had
mentioned that as of the 20th of

1377
01:44:39,840 --> 01:44:45,119
September things cannot leave the
township and he was thinking that he

1378
01:44:43,920 --> 01:44:50,480
might be able to do it within the first
couple weeks of school.

1379
01:44:47,360 --> 01:44:54,639
So it would possib potentially be
Septemberish.

1380
01:44:52,800 --> 01:44:58,800
So,
>> if you're willing to do it, it sounds

1381
01:44:56,080 --> 01:45:01,360
like a great idea. Like a one day thing.
>> One day thing.

1382
01:44:59,600 --> 01:45:04,560
» Yeah. I'm I'm just a little leer of like
during election time.

1383
01:45:02,400 --> 01:45:08,639
» Well, that's that's I I knew that once
once the ballots once the ballots we do

1384
01:45:06,400 --> 01:45:12,320
a preliminary once they're potentially
here, they can't leave because they're

1385
01:45:11,199 --> 01:45:17,040
sealed
>> and it has programming for our stuff is

1386
01:45:14,320 --> 01:45:22,320
all sealed in there. So, I says that's a
time that it can't be done. So

1387
01:45:19,760 --> 01:45:26,400
» that's right as opposed to in the midst
of

1388
01:45:25,119 --> 01:45:31,840
it's up to you.
>> Okay. I just I just wanted to again is

1389
01:45:30,159 --> 01:45:37,198
there something that I'm not thinking of
and if you have no objections on the

1390
01:45:35,119 --> 01:45:39,218
regard
[laughter]

1391
01:45:41,920 --> 01:45:46,199
» the opportunity comes off.

1392
01:45:47,677 --> 01:45:51,360
» [laughter]
>> Okay. Anything else? Yeah,

1393
01:45:50,639 --> 01:45:57,520
» that's it.
>> Okay. At this time, we will open public

1394
01:45:55,920 --> 01:46:01,520
again.
A quick question. Has anyone checked

1395
01:45:59,600 --> 01:46:08,639
with the Frankfurt Chamber of Commerce
to see how much income actually comes

1396
01:46:04,480 --> 01:46:11,840
into Ben County? Iron Man.
>> I don't trust those numbers personally

1397
01:46:10,719 --> 01:46:15,440
because it's like you've got
restaurants, you've got this. I mean,

1398
01:46:13,199 --> 01:46:20,800
it's like the restaurant's not recording
what they're making income

1399
01:46:17,520 --> 01:46:27,520
» from working in restaurants in the midst
of the event.

1400
01:46:23,520 --> 01:46:33,679
Most people really eat their own food
because they're afraid to eat something.

1401
01:46:30,480 --> 01:46:37,840
They're on a diet for, you know, the
event and they don't, you know, they're

1402
01:46:35,760 --> 01:46:41,280
not going to have a beer.
>> But that would be the racers, not

1403
01:46:39,520 --> 01:46:45,440
necessarily the family members that come
to support. Right. Being in a

1404
01:46:43,600 --> 01:46:49,119
restaurant, the locals completely stay
away from

1405
01:46:46,080 --> 01:46:56,960
» they Yeah. So, and I noticed that the
business falls off now. Now, Ed Carella

1406
01:46:52,880 --> 01:46:59,840
from um Vabella does the sandwiches at
the end.

1407
01:46:58,159 --> 01:47:04,000
» You know, that might be something, but
really there's not.

1408
01:47:01,520 --> 01:47:07,119
» So, we don't see a big influx of money
in the area.

1409
01:47:05,360 --> 01:47:10,400
» The answer is we don't really know. But
my opinion is we don't.

1410
01:47:08,560 --> 01:47:13,440
» And again, years don't. And I was court
there. I asked that Trevor or whatever

1411
01:47:12,560 --> 01:47:16,800
is
>> how much money do you guys bring in?

1412
01:47:15,280 --> 01:47:20,880
They would never answer. They would
never tell us how much do they make.

1413
01:47:18,480 --> 01:47:24,960
» I saved my emails. They were so
unresponsive.

1414
01:47:23,280 --> 01:47:30,560
» And I actually, you know, they have
volunteers and the um the volunteers

1415
01:47:28,159 --> 01:47:35,600
come from different organizations
and and then the organization gets a

1416
01:47:33,280 --> 01:47:39,360
donation because of the volunteers. So I
finally did get a list of the

1417
01:47:37,119 --> 01:47:45,199
organizations. Very few of them are in
Benzy County. They're like CalCasta,

1418
01:47:41,679 --> 01:47:50,719
Dorian Travers, Wexford, none in um
there was none in Lake Township.

1419
01:47:47,760 --> 01:47:56,360
I fought hard and we got points to be
decisions, but even that money isn't

1420
01:47:52,960 --> 01:47:56,360
coming to us.

1421
01:47:57,199 --> 01:48:04,480
» For our township, it's a half a day of
>> Yeah. All right. Sorry, I was It's your

1422
01:48:02,719 --> 01:48:08,800
time, not our time.
>> But yet because according to the news

1423
01:48:06,719 --> 01:48:14,960
earlier this year, Grand Travers wanted
them back. I was surprised to hear that

1424
01:48:12,480 --> 01:48:21,600
they can have their go.
>> Okay. Any other public input?

1425
01:48:19,600 --> 01:48:25,880
Okay. Hearing none, public input is
closed. I entertain a motion to adjurnn.

1426
01:48:26,159 --> 01:48:35,480
» Second by I think it was good second.
All in favor?

1427
01:48:31,199 --> 01:48:35,480
» I are adjourned.