1 00:12:45,300 --> 00:13:13,740 Good evening. I would like to call to order the October 5, 2020 Lake Washington School Board study session. But the record reflect that all board members are present and participating remotely. All meeting participants will also be participating remotely in alignment with the current proclamation issued by Governor Inslee. This board meeting will be live streamed and will be available on the district's website. If you are unable to live stream in the meeting, viewers can call 425. 2 00:13:14,420 --> 00:13:21,360 I am 36-2813 conference ID 37-127 to listen to the meeting. 3 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:25,040 Regular board meetings and study sessions will continue to be live streamed to the Lake 4 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:28,160 Washington School District website and posted reviewing within two days. 5 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:34,580 There are two topics for tonight for the study session. 6 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:39,340 The first is professional learning surrounding the operational expectation policy development 7 00:13:39,340 --> 00:13:41,040 in particular, our equity policy. 8 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,840 And the second is the 2020-2021 budget. 9 00:13:45,500 --> 00:13:48,300 We will start with the equity policy. 10 00:13:49,700 --> 00:13:51,440 And Dr. Holman. 11 00:13:52,280 --> 00:13:53,200 Great, thank you. 12 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:58,920 And so tonight really is part of the launch 13 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:02,260 into the board's work around developing an equity policy. 14 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:04,120 And I heard some comments tonight 15 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,920 during the board meeting that the timeline may not 16 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:11,180 be right and so we can talk about that if we want. 17 00:14:11,540 --> 00:14:18,240 There was reasons why we built in that amount of time, it was around really community engagement 18 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:23,460 upfront and we have another community engagement process at the end of October, as really 19 00:14:23,460 --> 00:14:30,520 that initial discussion with the community and we had talked about then having another opportunity 20 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:36,580 to loop back with communities to dialogue about the work you'd been doing before finalizing 21 00:14:36,580 --> 00:14:39,900 And so we can talk about if that's the right process and timing. 22 00:14:40,340 --> 00:14:59,460 We also want to make sure that we are accessing community voice through this process so that they understand the process so that the board is informed around community values in this work and that that's really reflected in the final policy that the board ultimately adopts. 23 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:28,060 And so, Matt and Gloria met last week, did some work around, as we think about policy, what are some critical questions to start asking? WASDA has accessed all, well, anyone that submitted their policies to WASDA, or any that they know about? They have listed all of the equity policies. As you know, the majority of districts are not policy governance districts. 24 00:15:28,060 --> 00:15:38,000 and so an operational expectation or an executive limitations in policy governance is not typical. 25 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:47,400 And so currently we were able to divine two Washington State executive limitations focused on equity. 26 00:15:47,740 --> 00:15:55,060 And so tonight we're going to use those as a springboard to help us think about the aspects of that policy 27 00:15:55,060 --> 00:15:58,980 as we start thinking about the development of our policy work. 28 00:15:59,480 --> 00:16:10,300 And so I want to walk through a bit of a presentation to kind of reorient us to where we are in process and effort in things like that. 29 00:16:10,820 --> 00:16:13,440 Matt and Gloria will also join in. 30 00:16:13,760 --> 00:16:21,260 So if either of you have comments or really any cabinet members have comments around the work we've been doing, the conversations we've been having, 31 00:16:21,260 --> 00:16:26,520 please feel free just to join in and I don't know if I'll be able to see you so 32 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:30,960 you may just need to interrupt and chime in. So I'm going to go ahead and share my 33 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:31,460 screen. 34 00:16:38,190 --> 00:16:46,850 And this is just a visual of that timeline that we have started. We 35 00:16:46,850 --> 00:16:52,090 started this last week really with our linkages, with our community members, 36 00:16:52,090 --> 00:16:59,510 community groups and different communities, and if I remember correctly, I believe we 37 00:16:59,510 --> 00:17:02,790 were able to complete nine of those sessions. 38 00:17:02,790 --> 00:17:08,810 I think three of the sessions we need to reschedule and work with those groups again. 39 00:17:09,770 --> 00:17:15,010 If I think about that amount of face time with board members and community, I think that's 40 00:17:15,010 --> 00:17:15,710 just tremendous. 41 00:17:16,530 --> 00:17:21,750 And I think that's one of the benefits of all of us really learning how to use this remote 42 00:17:21,750 --> 00:17:30,470 space for really valid reasons and so it was really enjoyable to sit and listen, hear 43 00:17:30,470 --> 00:17:35,130 the dialogue, the conversation, while difficult to hear some of the stories. 44 00:17:35,450 --> 00:17:41,990 It really helps set the stage for the work you're doing as a board and really we are doing 45 00:17:41,990 --> 00:17:50,430 as a district and provides clear rationale that the work of ensuring that our marginalized 46 00:17:50,430 --> 00:17:56,790 populations feel connected, engaged, safe, that they can trust their school district, 47 00:17:56,910 --> 00:17:58,150 their schools, and staff. 48 00:17:58,590 --> 00:18:04,210 That is really important work and that is how we are going to reduce academic gaps, 49 00:18:04,770 --> 00:18:09,830 opportunity gaps, and really provide that ceiling of excellence for every student. 50 00:18:10,570 --> 00:18:16,570 The next step is really to do that studying and review around policy, policy statements, 51 00:18:16,570 --> 00:18:19,930 and really start doing some draft work as a board, 52 00:18:20,490 --> 00:18:22,850 then take that work back out to the community, 53 00:18:23,030 --> 00:18:25,210 kind of in that January, February timeframe, 54 00:18:26,170 --> 00:18:28,090 March and April, starting to, 55 00:18:28,090 --> 00:18:32,710 to put pencil to paper again, finalizing a policy, 56 00:18:32,910 --> 00:18:35,830 and then really taking action towards the end of the year. 57 00:18:36,550 --> 00:18:39,210 As you know, we can adjust this timeline as we go. 58 00:18:39,710 --> 00:18:41,290 We don't need to do that tonight, 59 00:18:41,670 --> 00:18:43,870 but if that's a conversation the board wants to have, 60 00:18:44,010 --> 00:18:45,430 we can engage in that. 61 00:18:45,430 --> 00:18:46,390 Just 62 00:18:49,650 --> 00:18:54,550 as a reminder, I know the board is aware, but for anyone that is new to our governance structure, 63 00:18:55,450 --> 00:19:01,710 the board has policy that really governs the school district and sets parameters and outcomes 64 00:19:01,710 --> 00:19:05,130 that the superintendent is to achieve or work within. 65 00:19:05,730 --> 00:19:09,910 And really the administrative policy is about the operations of the school district. 66 00:19:10,310 --> 00:19:15,890 How do we do the things that we do in a variety of different areas? 67 00:19:15,890 --> 00:19:21,690 And so that's just a distinction and so the policy that the board writes may look different 68 00:19:21,690 --> 00:19:24,290 to people than they are typically used to reading. 69 00:19:24,730 --> 00:19:30,910 Our administrative equity policy that we are working on will probably look more familiar 70 00:19:30,910 --> 00:19:38,090 to the community but those two really have to be in concert with one another because as 71 00:19:38,090 --> 00:19:46,590 the board sets parameters, which then will require data reporting, either hard data, soft data. 72 00:19:47,670 --> 00:19:52,190 We want our administrative policy really to echo those same values and sentiments. 73 00:19:55,560 --> 00:20:02,240 During the linkages, we ask the community a number of questions, really more to start dialogue, 74 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:08,880 to really have them express their experiences, their feelings, and really provide the board 75 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:17,140 with information to then start developing and understanding around values because the operational 76 00:20:17,140 --> 00:20:24,020 expectation focused on equity will really be a value statement from the board. And so I know 77 00:20:24,020 --> 00:20:31,300 tonight during board member comments, I heard a number of values expressed from each board member 78 00:20:31,300 --> 00:20:37,000 that the community communicated in those sessions. And so I think that's a great start and we'll 79 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:38,600 continue that later in October. 80 00:20:39,500 --> 00:20:45,560 What we are doing right now with all of those data is we are compiling that so that board 81 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:50,180 members, because as you know, two board members at each session, so there obviously were 82 00:20:50,180 --> 00:20:52,260 three others that didn't participate in that. 83 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:58,280 We want each board member to be able to have access to the dialogue, which as you know was 84 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:06,280 anonymous note-taking from our cabinet members, just to capture the information and experiences 85 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,360 to be able to pass along to the entire and full board. 86 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:20,540 And so tonight, our thinking was to take these two 87 00:21:20,540 --> 00:21:25,700 executive limitations policies, which we know are more similar to 88 00:21:25,700 --> 00:21:29,720 what operational expectation policy will read like, 89 00:21:30,120 --> 00:21:33,960 and just do some analysis and discussion around that policy. 90 00:21:34,420 --> 00:21:38,720 We have some guiding questions to help lead that discussion. 91 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:45,880 And so, I think it will be a good launch point to our work in the policy realm. 92 00:21:46,460 --> 00:21:51,200 And then, as you know, in future meetings, we'll want to come back to those linkage 93 00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:57,800 reports, do some dialogue, pull out values that we heard from the community, and probably 94 00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,560 start to do some work around that. 95 00:22:00,220 --> 00:22:05,580 We also know that we, to do that work, we're going to come in with a set of guiding questions 96 00:22:05,580 --> 00:22:08,220 that will help us unpack those data. 97 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:16,880 And so tonight we're gonna start with example policies. 98 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,480 It's a quad school district in Northeastern 99 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,060 are the two Washington State school districts 100 00:22:22,060 --> 00:22:25,660 that currently have board policy focused on equity. 101 00:22:28,260 --> 00:22:33,240 And so I'm gonna let Matt and Gloria kind of talk 102 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:38,200 through these questions and they develop these questions 103 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,100 really to help the board kind of think 104 00:22:40,100 --> 00:22:44,780 think about the policies as they read them and then for further dialogue and discussion. 105 00:22:45,120 --> 00:22:49,560 So Matt, Gloria, why don't you kind of talk about how these will help the board unpack 106 00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:54,680 and potentially guide them in future work around policy? 107 00:22:55,540 --> 00:22:56,100 All right. 108 00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:57,340 Thank you, Dr. Holman. 109 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:03,780 And so just a moment where we'll take some time for the board members to be able to read 110 00:23:03,780 --> 00:23:10,740 through the two executive limitations policies that Isquan North Thurston have adopted. 111 00:23:11,820 --> 00:23:16,980 And as you're reading through those, I thought these questions would be good both to focus 112 00:23:16,980 --> 00:23:22,060 you and to attend on elements in those policies. 113 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:29,060 And then for us to come back and to engage in discussion around the board's observations 114 00:23:29,060 --> 00:23:30,000 of those policies. 115 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:39,600 And so the first question really is to look at to what extent is race isolated in these policies? 116 00:23:39,900 --> 00:23:46,160 And I think director Lilliburty talked earlier, you know, in the board meeting around just your 117 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:53,800 impression from linkages of really how we think about equity. There's a lot of different aspects to it, 118 00:23:53,800 --> 00:24:00,460 But how frequently thinking about race in the context of equity came out in the midst 119 00:24:00,460 --> 00:24:02,900 of our community discussions last week. 120 00:24:03,360 --> 00:24:08,700 And so we want to look to see to what extent is race isolated? 121 00:24:08,700 --> 00:24:10,160 Is it called out explicitly? 122 00:24:10,940 --> 00:24:14,140 Is it implied or is it silent in these policies? 123 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:20,320 Because that's a decision point that the board is going to have to make around when it's 124 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,460 to the point to adopt initial policies 125 00:24:22,460 --> 00:24:25,800 of how explicit are you going to isolate 126 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,120 and name race in your equity policy. 127 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,940 Another question is really to be thinking about 128 00:24:33,940 --> 00:24:35,360 what we call a theory of action. 129 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,560 So which essentially is if we do X, 130 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,400 if we hold this value, 131 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,500 or if we have this expectation for the superintendent, 132 00:24:45,300 --> 00:24:48,740 is there some, is it clear what the board, 133 00:24:48,740 --> 00:25:06,340 these boards intend will result. So what would happen as a result? And I think that in our conversations we've heard, there's some certain outcomes that ultimately, there's an interest to seeing that that happens. 134 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:18,080 And so being able to track back to that and saying, and if we want in order for that to happen, what is it that we believe needs to be explicitly stated in these policies around 135 00:25:18,580 --> 00:25:26,760 values or expectations. So can we see that through line between the policy and the intended outcome? 136 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:34,920 And so if we can pull that out and that's explicit and that's clear, generally that would be, you know, probably make for a stronger policy. 137 00:25:35,220 --> 00:25:43,200 If that's not as clear to us in these policies, that could give us some things to think about and for the board to have conversations around. 138 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:52,760 You know, we look at exemplars to see, are there things that we might want to copy? 139 00:25:53,220 --> 00:25:57,080 So are there things that somebody else has already articulated that really resonate 140 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:57,620 with us? 141 00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:05,180 And so I think also looking at, are there specific elements that really seem to fit the 142 00:26:05,180 --> 00:26:11,280 board's interest when it comes to reducing the likelihood that we are able to predict 143 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:15,820 education model comes on the basis of race or some other characteristic. 144 00:26:16,260 --> 00:26:21,200 And so, since the board has expressed that as a value and an interest around 145 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:28,400 or equity policies, are there certain aspects of these policies that we can point at 146 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:35,040 and say, yeah, actually, that really seems to speak to the challenge that we're wanting to face. 147 00:26:35,780 --> 00:26:40,020 And then, are there things that are noticeable in their absence as well? 148 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:57,540 And so, you know, we may not be able to put language to them at this stage, but when you're reading these policies, what don't they speak to is also really important to attend to and thinking about the reason for that. 149 00:26:57,540 --> 00:27:03,020 So we were thinking these, these kind of four guiding questions would be a good starting point, 150 00:27:04,100 --> 00:27:10,620 in terms of looking to see how at least two other districts in our state that have a similar 151 00:27:10,620 --> 00:27:20,920 governance model have developed policies around equity. Gory, do you have anything else that you 152 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:25,860 I want to add for the board to, before they dig into the policies. 153 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:28,000 Nope, you'd explain it perfectly. 154 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:29,320 Thank you. 155 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:31,900 All right, Dr. Holman. 156 00:27:33,620 --> 00:27:42,860 Great, and so in the board folder, there are two policies right now. 157 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:47,200 And I believe Diane also emailed them to the board. 158 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,880 I can't see board members right now, because I'm sharing my screen. 159 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,440 Let me, there we go. 160 00:27:54,560 --> 00:28:01,200 Do you have access to those policies, or maybe I'll ask it in the opposite? 161 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:03,660 Does anyone not have those two policies? 162 00:28:07,590 --> 00:28:09,030 To us, so we've got minutes. 163 00:28:09,050 --> 00:28:09,450 Okay, yeah. 164 00:28:09,850 --> 00:28:10,110 Great. 165 00:28:10,410 --> 00:28:14,230 So why don't we take a few minutes to read those policies? 166 00:28:14,610 --> 00:28:18,130 I'm gonna put those prompts back up. 167 00:28:18,130 --> 00:28:40,910 Take a few notes and then we'll kind of go through question by question and actually have a discussion and a dialogue about those concepts related to these policies, document that so we can kind of start our process of documenting the board's conversations around the equity policies. 168 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:28,240 The two draft policies that were shared with us. I don't think these are currently posted to the district's website for public viewing, but can we make sure that they are? I think we're spending time looking at it. I'd like public to see what it is we're viewing as well. 169 00:33:33,860 --> 00:33:43,660 I'm checking the district website now. I sent an email to our webmaster, so I'll follow that up with another email with her to make sure that those materials are posted. Okay. Thank you. 170 00:33:58,220 --> 00:34:01,740 Let's see a couple more minutes, Eric. Yeah. Okay. 171 00:34:02,460 --> 00:34:04,180 I'm ready when others are. 172 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:06,720 Chris, you're ready? 173 00:34:08,460 --> 00:34:09,360 Chris, you're ready? 174 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:14,880 John. 175 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:15,760 Yes. 176 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:22,180 I just looked on the district website and those examples of the district equity policies are posted on the district website. 177 00:34:22,720 --> 00:34:31,820 So anyone would like to view them and go to the district website and look on the current October 5th board meeting and find examples of those two policies. 178 00:34:32,260 --> 00:34:33,340 Great. Thank you, Diane. 179 00:34:34,100 --> 00:34:36,080 Thank you, Diane. Excellent. And 180 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:05,280 those examples are North-Thirson and ASQA, correct? Yes, they are. Yes. 181 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,640 Okay, I want to make sure I was on the right thing. I can find the other document. 182 00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:59,740 In Syrian, Cassandra, Mark, just let us know when you're ready. I'm here. Okay, ready. I'm ready. 183 00:35:59,740 --> 00:36:00,840 you 184 00:36:08,330 --> 00:36:15,510 know I might ask Gloria to I know there's a question and and maybe this is 185 00:36:15,510 --> 00:36:22,890 something we want to do some more studying discussion reading about as a 186 00:36:22,890 --> 00:36:32,890 group the idea of centering on race I know that conceptually that can be 187 00:36:32,890 --> 00:36:36,170 challenging for some individuals in the community. 188 00:36:37,370 --> 00:36:43,930 I would like Gloria to share with us, you know, how does centering on race actually address 189 00:36:43,930 --> 00:36:45,570 inequities for all students. 190 00:36:45,850 --> 00:36:52,190 And so I've heard her, you know, say this before and she does a great job of explaining 191 00:36:52,190 --> 00:36:52,450 this. 192 00:36:52,550 --> 00:36:56,770 So Gloria, that would just, I think, be beneficial as we launch into this conversation. 193 00:36:57,710 --> 00:36:57,910 Sure. 194 00:36:58,850 --> 00:37:05,010 So, we think about centering on race when we look at the foundations of our country and 195 00:37:05,010 --> 00:37:14,470 how it was founded even when we think about pre-colonial America with our indigenous tribes. 196 00:37:16,030 --> 00:37:19,930 We think about the beginning of our country, even though it's rough to think about it, we 197 00:37:19,930 --> 00:37:25,410 think about our indigenous tribes and how people came over to take over the land, however, 198 00:37:25,410 --> 00:37:31,190 we feel about it, that is what occurred, and then as we think about the bringing over 199 00:37:31,190 --> 00:37:39,030 of Africans to work the land as an economic commodity, instead of people, from the founding 200 00:37:39,030 --> 00:37:45,330 of our country and pre the founding, that it will center on race and minimizing a group 201 00:37:45,330 --> 00:37:45,710 of people. 202 00:37:46,390 --> 00:37:50,650 And so from the very beginning, race has been at the center of this work. 203 00:37:50,650 --> 00:37:56,650 So, as we fast-forward across time, race has always been part of it, whether it is related 204 00:37:56,650 --> 00:38:01,410 to the idea of the Supreme Court when we have people from different countries, as they 205 00:38:01,410 --> 00:38:08,310 came over to immigrate, they petition to be considered white, and what does that idea 206 00:38:08,310 --> 00:38:09,630 of whiteness afford people. 207 00:38:10,510 --> 00:38:17,330 And with that, we think about how that's centering an idea of whiteness and white people. 208 00:38:17,330 --> 00:38:21,810 That's not about someone white being bad or someone not being white being good. 209 00:38:22,090 --> 00:38:25,850 This idea that race is a piece of that history even from that point. 210 00:38:26,810 --> 00:38:33,690 So we think about fast forward some more and we think about even the point around our LGBTQIA community. 211 00:38:34,230 --> 00:38:39,010 When it comes to race with our LGBTQIA community, 212 00:38:39,150 --> 00:38:44,190 there's an intersection there for example when we think about our trans community. 213 00:38:44,190 --> 00:38:52,330 And for example, if a person is black and they are also trans, that's the intersectionality 214 00:38:52,330 --> 00:38:55,510 which means you have multiple identities that come into that. 215 00:38:56,010 --> 00:38:59,030 And with that, there are multiple barriers that are erected with that. 216 00:38:59,670 --> 00:39:05,030 And another example, we think about the idea of racist self when it comes to women. 217 00:39:05,810 --> 00:39:10,910 And we do know that with affirmative action, for example, it was meant that one of the tenants 218 00:39:10,910 --> 00:39:19,150 of affirmative action was around the idea that we afford or give or open up and release 219 00:39:19,150 --> 00:39:23,190 barriers for people that have had barriers against them. So we think about affirmative action, 220 00:39:23,730 --> 00:39:29,870 most people think about that it was meant to, and that it helped black African-American people 221 00:39:29,870 --> 00:39:34,750 more than any other group. In reality, it actually centered white women in a sense, and they, 222 00:39:35,210 --> 00:39:39,550 certain barriers were broken with white women in the boardroom and around work and around getting 223 00:39:39,550 --> 00:39:45,970 credit card things like that. And we think about black women that same privileges weren't really 224 00:39:45,970 --> 00:39:50,670 afforded. So we think about all the barriers that were broken over time. Race ended up being 225 00:39:50,670 --> 00:39:56,470 that singular barrier that remained. Even if someone made it up to a certain level that had a 226 00:39:56,470 --> 00:40:03,430 when race intersected, there was a paid disparity or there was a lack of space afforded to this person. 227 00:40:03,910 --> 00:40:07,770 So I give all of the examples to say race intersected all of those from the beginning of 228 00:40:07,770 --> 00:40:13,130 of indigenous brethren land being taken away 229 00:40:13,130 --> 00:40:16,730 and pushed onto reservations on up to our current time. 230 00:40:17,050 --> 00:40:18,890 So even though it seems in the past, it's really not. 231 00:40:19,350 --> 00:40:23,570 So that little trip down history is just an example 232 00:40:23,570 --> 00:40:24,590 of why we sent you race 233 00:40:24,590 --> 00:40:27,050 because when we think about all the things 234 00:40:27,050 --> 00:40:29,610 and all these barriers, race is always there 235 00:40:29,610 --> 00:40:31,890 and the shadows and sometimes it's in the forefront. 236 00:40:32,250 --> 00:40:33,970 So when we disconnect race from that, 237 00:40:34,090 --> 00:40:37,450 we don't have a full view of how our society 238 00:40:37,450 --> 00:40:41,670 impact people, and we try to take that away from that. Our society makes it visible. 239 00:40:42,130 --> 00:40:48,370 So even when we don't talk about it, and we see it come up in income and housing with 240 00:40:48,370 --> 00:40:51,590 red lining, which people weren't allowed to live in, which neighborhoods, and even now 241 00:40:52,250 --> 00:40:57,770 that there are different rates and insurance and different rates in the price that you get 242 00:40:57,770 --> 00:41:02,050 for interest on the house. So race always comes in, whether we want it to exist or not. 243 00:41:02,050 --> 00:41:08,690 So, we sent you race. It's like the idea of raising all boats, even though like we may be in 244 00:41:08,690 --> 00:41:12,650 the same storm, but our boats are different. So, it's like that idea that when we send 245 00:41:12,650 --> 00:41:20,750 you're on race, that means a person that identifies as gay and black. They rise when someone 246 00:41:20,750 --> 00:41:29,290 when we think about being in classrooms when we send your race and think about trying to have 247 00:41:29,290 --> 00:41:35,010 have a diverse workforce and we want our staff to reflect our diverse community, that 248 00:41:35,010 --> 00:41:40,150 then makes our schools stronger. So those are all like just pieces of why we sent your 249 00:41:40,150 --> 00:41:45,030 race because it's there. Race is a social construct as we all know but just because it's 250 00:41:45,030 --> 00:41:49,050 a social construct, it doesn't mean it doesn't exist and it doesn't mean it doesn't come 251 00:41:49,050 --> 00:41:52,510 in the room, whether we want it to or not. So that's why we sent your race because it's 252 00:41:52,510 --> 00:41:55,870 always there whether we want to talk about it or not. I hope that helps. 253 00:41:55,870 --> 00:42:02,990 Yeah, and so I know one of the questions that potentially that the board has. 254 00:42:03,510 --> 00:42:09,810 So if we center on race, when we think about our obligation to all of our students. 255 00:42:10,470 --> 00:42:18,610 So let's say there's a student who is Caucasian and is living in poverty. 256 00:42:19,490 --> 00:42:24,870 How does then centering on race help us then address all of our students, 257 00:42:25,450 --> 00:42:30,190 including a student that may not be a person of color. 258 00:42:32,190 --> 00:42:37,010 A good question because sometimes there are stereotypes that are connected with 259 00:42:37,010 --> 00:42:40,190 that if it is a person of color then it's a direct link to poverty. 260 00:42:40,350 --> 00:42:43,130 As we know we have wealthy people from all racial categories. 261 00:42:43,710 --> 00:42:49,090 So we do center on race when we think of that there is a student who's white and in poverty 262 00:42:49,090 --> 00:42:52,230 and we think about that the resources follow. 263 00:42:52,230 --> 00:42:59,830 So, when we center on race, there are certain deficit mindsets that are imbued with an educational 264 00:42:59,830 --> 00:43:04,410 system, unfortunately, because it was made for certain groups to thrive and certain groups 265 00:43:04,410 --> 00:43:05,250 to not thrive. 266 00:43:06,010 --> 00:43:14,410 And so, when we look at the eye, when we think about funding schools, that unfortunately, 267 00:43:14,410 --> 00:43:18,550 and unfortunately sometimes in a strictly tied to race 268 00:43:18,550 --> 00:43:23,350 and certain stereotypes that people may have 269 00:43:23,350 --> 00:43:24,470 about certain groups. 270 00:43:25,230 --> 00:43:27,550 And so when we think about funding, 271 00:43:27,990 --> 00:43:30,050 putting funding something equitably, 272 00:43:30,250 --> 00:43:32,090 like a lot of schools and many districts, 273 00:43:32,290 --> 00:43:35,130 no matter school, that they are funded by student 274 00:43:35,830 --> 00:43:37,510 to say this how many principals you have, 275 00:43:37,750 --> 00:43:38,750 this how many counselors you have. 276 00:43:39,430 --> 00:43:43,610 And when we think about funding in an equitable way, 277 00:43:43,610 --> 00:43:50,170 Then we think about what does the data look like, not just SBA data, what are also form 278 00:43:50,170 --> 00:43:52,810 of assessments look like and qualitative data that we have. 279 00:43:53,030 --> 00:43:58,830 We have that type of data, and sometimes it's linked to a deficit mindset, unfortunately, 280 00:43:59,130 --> 00:44:05,750 but that can sometimes drive what resources schools have, and like a lot of times it is not 281 00:44:05,750 --> 00:44:10,650 tight to race, but it's done so in a way that is not necessarily appropriate. 282 00:44:10,650 --> 00:44:19,790 And so funding can follow a model that looks at data like that, and at the same time a student who identifies as white and who may be low income. 283 00:44:20,470 --> 00:44:26,490 They will receive funding because should receive more funding at a particular school, and we think of it that way because it had changes. 284 00:44:27,050 --> 00:44:34,610 So in the big scheme of things, when we think about race, even though a school may not have a high population of just say, let's you know, let's next students. 285 00:44:34,610 --> 00:44:42,710 But if we reframe how we look at equity, that we can drive our budget in a way that 286 00:44:42,710 --> 00:44:47,910 it's not equal but equitable, it does change how we see things because sometimes we look 287 00:44:47,910 --> 00:44:53,810 at things in a black and white way and literally black and white by race or the idea that one 288 00:44:53,810 --> 00:44:55,210 student equals this much money. 289 00:44:55,210 --> 00:44:59,950 So when we start to think of that we sent you a race in that that doesn't mean that it's to exclude 290 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:29,860 as a decision of why students we bring in those other inner setionalities that come in because we are changing a way we think about how we fund and we're changing a way we think about what a student looks like that needs help because one we start think about, we have a lot of students, when our districts and families that identify is black, african, african, african, matrican, latino, latin ex for example, even though there's disparate data right there, and also cause attention to us, calls for us to put our attention on what is the data really telling us. That is a systems issue. 291 00:45:29,860 --> 00:45:35,860 and at the same time, that we think differently about how we fund things beyond race, but race 292 00:45:35,860 --> 00:45:38,360 sometimes gets us in the room to have that conversation. 293 00:45:38,940 --> 00:45:39,380 Great. 294 00:45:39,380 --> 00:45:39,500 Great. 295 00:45:40,020 --> 00:45:40,400 Thank you. 296 00:45:40,740 --> 00:45:41,080 Hey, Matt. 297 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:41,500 Hey, John. 298 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:48,600 I'm going to ask you to maybe expand a little bit more for the board on a concept. 299 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:55,640 I think we've used it before, perhaps, with the board, but it's a critical distinction. 300 00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,440 And I would argue that it's something we really need to be. 301 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:05,600 as we think about both board policy and administrative policy that we need to really be intentional about. 302 00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:12,600 And that's where you use the term deficit or deficit mindset. We also, the opposite of that 303 00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:21,120 is thinking as an asset mindset. And so I'll kind of start in on this term and then Gory, I'd really 304 00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:28,680 love if you could kind of build off of that. So a deficit mindset is kind of like a fixing mindset, 305 00:46:28,680 --> 00:46:39,920 The assumption is that there is something that needs to be fixed within a population that the problem is actually centered with a population. 306 00:46:41,780 --> 00:46:46,400 And that's problematic from civil standpoints. 307 00:46:46,820 --> 00:46:56,720 I would argue that the biggest problem with that is that it actually absolves us as educators from actually taking some ownership 308 00:46:56,720 --> 00:47:07,720 of the role in which we and our systems contribute to the disparities that we see and that we're wanting to address. 309 00:47:08,660 --> 00:47:17,480 And so if we've taken an asset base of my view, really is looking at how do we essentially, how do we, first of all, 310 00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:24,440 How are we reflective about the ways in which our systems are either helping lifting people 311 00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:32,700 up to reach their excellence or perhaps suppressing or marginalizing or oppressing populations? 312 00:47:33,260 --> 00:47:40,820 And so, Gloria brought that term into the room. I just think it is very easy to fall into a deficit 313 00:47:41,500 --> 00:47:48,220 mindset and would be something that would really caution us to kind of call out and just be 314 00:47:48,220 --> 00:47:52,900 aware of as we're engaging in conversations because policies have a lot of power that way. 315 00:47:54,380 --> 00:47:59,180 And you certainly don't want to be doing harm as a result of the ways in which we've 316 00:47:59,180 --> 00:48:03,460 crafted our policies. So I don't worry if you have anything to add on that. 317 00:48:04,420 --> 00:48:09,480 Thank you for explaining that more because sometimes that is what happens we think about 318 00:48:10,820 --> 00:48:16,800 policies and how we write them in which students that we are populists and we're targeting because the idea of an equity policy 319 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:26,940 is that we're not disenfranchising one group for another. It's that how do we get to equal but we can't get to equal until we really think about what equity looks like. 320 00:48:27,540 --> 00:48:33,940 And so we think about these policies, a technical fix, sometimes comes to mind around the idea of deficit-based thinking. 321 00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:39,240 So, one may think, oh, we're going to have more tutors because we're going to help these 322 00:48:39,240 --> 00:48:42,780 poor students or these poor families instead of thinking that our families bring a lot 323 00:48:42,780 --> 00:48:48,280 into the space around cultural nuance and gifts and talents, and that it is about having 324 00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:54,220 high standards, but what do those standards look like and how are they more universal and open? 325 00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:58,420 And so, we think about the systems fix and looking at ourselves, it's more like how, 326 00:49:01,620 --> 00:49:01,620 think 327 00:49:01,620 --> 00:49:06,400 than that, around having strong, diverse categories of teachers. 328 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:09,880 So that when we think of a systems fix, when we think about a policy, that's when that 329 00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:13,680 comes in sort of the depth of base, which is about fixing kids and fixing families. 330 00:49:13,900 --> 00:49:19,380 Instead of looking at how our system has unintentionally and sometimes intentionally disenfranchised groups 331 00:49:19,380 --> 00:49:20,220 of students and families. 332 00:49:20,460 --> 00:49:20,860 So, yep. 333 00:49:25,190 --> 00:49:28,750 Sorry, I was looking to make sure my mic was my second mic was turned on. 334 00:49:29,930 --> 00:49:35,270 Are there other cabinet members that want to comment on this before we then open this 335 00:49:35,270 --> 00:49:40,010 up for board members to ask questions and then we can get into kind of the dialogue specific 336 00:49:40,010 --> 00:49:40,670 to policy. 337 00:49:48,020 --> 00:49:49,400 I'd love to add something. 338 00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:56,760 I just said Gloria text and it's on a theory called funds of knowledge and it's with 339 00:49:56,760 --> 00:50:03,720 the thinking that people come to the table competent with experiences that add value. 340 00:50:03,900 --> 00:50:09,280 And so when you think of asset-based thinking in comparison to deficit-based thinking, that's 341 00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:15,380 It's really a good place to start, and I don't know how new the thinking is, but it's 342 00:50:15,380 --> 00:50:18,640 certainly one that allows students to be looked at differently. 343 00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:27,260 It really came up in a, oh, probably about eight or nine years ago, there was a young Latin 344 00:50:27,260 --> 00:50:38,600 next boy in East LA who created, he was the impetus behind the, I'm not remembering what 345 00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:47,820 But it's the Cardboard Challenge and there's a link on the Internet and it's Keynes Arcade, 346 00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:56,340 C-A-I-N apostrophe S. And that whole concept about him having funds of knowledge and experiences 347 00:50:56,900 --> 00:51:03,120 really was the impetus behind the Cardboard Challenge and he talked about his teachers 348 00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:04,560 seeing him differently. 349 00:51:04,560 --> 00:51:09,500 when they started to look at him as if he came from a place that had 350 00:51:09,500 --> 00:51:14,640 experiences and had values and so just thinking about asset-based thinking and 351 00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:21,660 how that you know changes the trajectory for students but also for teachers so 352 00:51:21,660 --> 00:51:28,820 just wanted to add that in. Thank you. I saw Mike's hand come up and then why don't we 353 00:51:28,820 --> 00:51:35,100 go Chris and then Eric? Yeah one other thing I'd add actually it's related to an 354 00:51:35,100 --> 00:51:39,720 article that we'll be reading tomorrow in our instructional bargaining group by an author 355 00:51:39,720 --> 00:51:45,380 and an instructional kind of expert, Zoretta Hammond. We also have to think about what 356 00:51:45,380 --> 00:51:50,800 is every kid need? And again, it's not going to a deficit, but you know, I think a few of 357 00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:55,080 us were in a really wonderful session the other night with a high school teacher who was talking 358 00:51:55,080 --> 00:52:00,040 about her work to bring social justice into her curriculum. At the same time, if you back 359 00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:07,660 that up to early grades, if kids can't read and can't get access to mathematics, they 360 00:52:07,660 --> 00:52:11,980 won't have access to the knowledge that's in the things that they need to read and the 361 00:52:11,980 --> 00:52:13,460 ideas that they need to access. 362 00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:18,660 And so we have an obligation to make sure every kid reads, and I think connecting to the point 363 00:52:18,660 --> 00:52:22,880 we were just hearing is, you can't go in to say, well, some kids can and some kids can't, 364 00:52:22,900 --> 00:52:24,740 some kids don't have books at home and some do. 365 00:52:24,860 --> 00:52:26,700 You have to start with every kid can learn. 366 00:52:26,700 --> 00:52:31,520 And we have to change our approaches to make sure every pit can learn. 367 00:52:31,720 --> 00:52:38,640 And that means bringing in students experiences and bringing in their strengths and building on those. 368 00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:45,980 But at the same time, it also doesn't mean you set aside really good literacy instruction or really good math instruction for every single kid. 369 00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:49,300 And when you're not reaching kids, you have to ask what's your obligation to adjust. 370 00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:51,720 I just want to have that in the conversation too. 371 00:52:51,720 --> 00:52:57,020 I think that's an important part, and oftentimes we make lots of excuses, or we do lots of 372 00:52:57,020 --> 00:53:01,000 set-asides and say, some kids maybe can't learn, or those are our biases that we have 373 00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:01,880 to explore. 374 00:53:02,340 --> 00:53:05,940 But that instructional component has to be built in as well if we're going to talk about 375 00:53:05,940 --> 00:53:06,500 racial equity. 376 00:53:07,220 --> 00:53:07,680 Thanks, Mike. 377 00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:11,700 Chris? 378 00:53:16,570 --> 00:53:22,190 So I want to say thank you to everyone who's trying to help me catch up on this, because 379 00:53:22,190 --> 00:53:27,810 be perfectly honest, to Joyce's point, I do not feel confident coming to the table on this issue. 380 00:53:29,350 --> 00:53:35,010 And it's not just because, if you look at us, I have spent the last four board meetings, 381 00:53:35,230 --> 00:53:39,010 trying to find the lighting that makes me look a little bit less like Casper the Ghost. 382 00:53:39,650 --> 00:53:42,730 And the fact is, I am clearly the widest number of our board. 383 00:53:44,190 --> 00:53:51,650 And, you know, these things, it's, I have a question very specifically for Gloria and 384 00:53:52,390 --> 00:53:55,330 Centering race is something where I'm trying to wrap my head around it. 385 00:53:56,330 --> 00:53:59,810 When it comes to equity, there are four dimensions that I care about passionately. 386 00:54:00,230 --> 00:54:02,850 Race, ability, identity, and the income. 387 00:54:03,970 --> 00:54:07,490 And if I'm saying that race is the first among equals, I'm cool with it. 388 00:54:07,630 --> 00:54:09,670 But if I'm saying that race is where I have to start, 389 00:54:10,410 --> 00:54:15,610 that makes me feel like I've just left the other three dimensions behind. 390 00:54:15,910 --> 00:54:16,810 You made them less important. 391 00:54:22,490 --> 00:54:29,390 Yeah, so we think about centering raised, it's about not raised being first, it's about 392 00:54:29,390 --> 00:54:30,050 being centered. 393 00:54:30,210 --> 00:54:34,350 So I think about it as it's like if it's a hierarchy, then it's one, two, three, four. 394 00:54:34,610 --> 00:54:38,030 But if I think about it being centered, like you have race here, you have ability. 395 00:54:38,450 --> 00:54:46,790 If a student, for example, has a disability, there are more likely, for example, to, for 396 00:54:46,790 --> 00:54:52,650 many districts. If there is a behavioral issue, a black and Latino Latinx student, they're 397 00:54:52,650 --> 00:54:58,810 more likely to be pushed into or got a really strong towards special education. If it's 398 00:54:58,810 --> 00:55:02,630 a right student, it's more likely that that may not happen. So we think about that ability 399 00:55:02,630 --> 00:55:06,970 part because the behavior can be seen as per cautiousness or immaturity, where the black 400 00:55:06,970 --> 00:55:12,190 student is seen as something else. Especially when they've done studies that when a black 401 00:55:12,190 --> 00:55:17,210 Black children and black boys seem like black men and black men are treated like black boys. 402 00:55:17,710 --> 00:55:22,170 So you think about the idea around that, that's why ability raises at the center because 403 00:55:22,170 --> 00:55:24,590 for ability you are more likely for that to happen. 404 00:55:24,770 --> 00:55:29,590 And when I think about even the income piece, there's a study I think in the Wall Street Journal 405 00:55:29,590 --> 00:55:36,450 and we've done this work also with PEG that despite income level, a poor white student, sometimes 406 00:55:36,450 --> 00:55:40,790 their SAT score is higher than a student that is black and higher income. 407 00:55:40,790 --> 00:55:44,470 That doesn't mean that the higher income black student isn't doing the work isn't as worthy. 408 00:55:44,930 --> 00:55:50,250 We think about how that test was crafted and about what kids know and about what people 409 00:55:50,250 --> 00:55:51,170 tell kids about. 410 00:55:51,310 --> 00:55:51,850 You can do this. 411 00:55:51,950 --> 00:55:52,770 I believe in you. 412 00:55:52,970 --> 00:55:53,910 These are access. 413 00:55:54,350 --> 00:55:55,470 This is access information. 414 00:55:55,470 --> 00:56:00,650 This is information source, SAT, ACT, all those pieces intersect with that or you can have 415 00:56:00,650 --> 00:56:06,170 a really bright Latino life next student and they might not know or be given opportunity 416 00:56:06,170 --> 00:56:10,450 or income level to have six months worth of prep sessions before SAT happens. 417 00:56:10,450 --> 00:56:16,950 So then race comes in real right there if a person believes they're worthy or not to even have the information or the access to 418 00:56:16,950 --> 00:56:22,170 Let's have a prep club that someone doesn't have transportation to stay at school or to get there so it comes in there 419 00:56:22,170 --> 00:56:22,970 even identity 420 00:56:22,970 --> 00:56:30,810 They've recent through the American Pediatric Association that black students on average receive six to eight races or racialized 421 00:56:30,810 --> 00:56:36,190 Incidents at day when we think about that kind of trauma if you're in trauma because a racialized 422 00:56:36,190 --> 00:56:41,890 is despite your income level, you are then trying to go into clashing to take a test when 423 00:56:41,890 --> 00:56:46,390 you just heard the inward and hallway, or if you just been called inward, or something ridiculous 424 00:56:46,390 --> 00:56:51,530 happened, all those things are going on and you're doing racial gymnastics and mental gymnastics 425 00:56:51,530 --> 00:56:57,390 to get into a space to be totally engaged. And there are kids that are far exceeding that 426 00:56:57,390 --> 00:57:02,330 when I think about our students of color, particularly our black African-American and Latino 427 00:57:02,330 --> 00:57:06,710 you know, last night students that in spite of all those things they are still achieving. 428 00:57:06,850 --> 00:57:10,870 And we think about the students that do not graduate in a four-year time span. 429 00:57:11,290 --> 00:57:15,550 They come from particular groups and I posit it's not because they can't do it, it's because 430 00:57:15,550 --> 00:57:17,790 all those layers and with that. 431 00:57:18,070 --> 00:57:22,430 So we think about ability identity and income when you have all those layers on top of it 432 00:57:22,430 --> 00:57:27,230 regardless of your income or someone is thinking from the age of being a preschooler that you 433 00:57:27,230 --> 00:57:31,750 are more likely to be in trouble or get into trouble, those things all come back to race. 434 00:57:31,750 --> 00:57:37,390 So it's not about the hierarchy of race, which is really alive and well in our country right now when we think about 435 00:57:38,470 --> 00:57:45,190 Patriarch and how that exists and and who people trust the most even being people of color and we think about all of the data around that. 436 00:57:45,590 --> 00:57:50,610 So it's not about hierarchy. It's about sintering race because everything else. There's a through line tool 437 00:57:50,610 --> 00:57:59,210 We look at data around disparities and even when kids make it race is always in the room because race has been in the room since over 400 years ago 438 00:57:59,210 --> 00:58:01,690 when people came here and 439 00:58:01,690 --> 00:58:12,750 And that started. So that's why it's there that is there I can work with that as as a premise where it has to be part of the conversation in all of these dimensions. 440 00:58:13,050 --> 00:58:21,950 I guess the one thing that I've been fretting over as we go as we pursue this conversation is what about white kids who are LGBTQ? 441 00:58:22,990 --> 00:58:30,050 What about the white kids who are spent? What about the white kids who are low income? I don't want to leave them outside of our equity policy. 442 00:58:30,050 --> 00:58:35,010 if there's any way we can avoid that and I guess that makes me feel better about it. 443 00:58:35,090 --> 00:58:41,450 So that's just something I'm still struggling with and I want to make sure we don't lose. 444 00:58:42,290 --> 00:58:47,290 Oh and I'm glad you are bringing that up because that is the silence that's there that people 445 00:58:47,290 --> 00:58:53,010 are thinking about which could end up being a negative and like at the tailwind as we work through 446 00:58:53,010 --> 00:59:00,450 admin and board policy is that when we center race that means we think about 447 00:59:00,450 --> 00:59:04,510 centering race that doesn't mean not white people we think about even though 448 00:59:04,510 --> 00:59:10,050 we think about race as being that includes white even though there's cultural 449 00:59:10,050 --> 00:59:14,830 pieces that have come in that change that over time that is still there that 450 00:59:14,830 --> 00:59:18,770 race that white isn't an absence of race it's just how does that look in our 451 00:59:18,770 --> 00:59:22,070 country and how does that look with our educational system and I think we will 452 00:59:22,070 --> 00:59:27,010 be remiss if we didn't think about that because what that can end up causing is sometimes 453 00:59:27,010 --> 00:59:34,450 anchor. It can cause disenchantment so that always has to be there. So I think we think 454 00:59:34,450 --> 00:59:41,790 about even broadly about racial equity work. It means also supporting white students 455 00:59:41,790 --> 00:59:46,170 and other people of color that may not identify themselves as people of color for their own 456 00:59:46,170 --> 00:59:51,370 particular reasons is that they're part of the process because if we as people 457 00:59:51,370 --> 00:59:55,710 color could have done it absent of white people for equality it would have been 458 00:59:55,710 --> 00:59:59,830 done so with that it's all of us coming together to do it which doesn't mean 459 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:06,840 Meeting white people outside the door, it's having all people together as allies in this work. 460 01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:08,320 Thanks. 461 01:00:11,710 --> 01:00:11,890 Eric? 462 01:00:17,460 --> 01:00:21,260 I'm going to jump in. Chris, I'm glad Chris went first because he said a lot of things. 463 01:00:21,260 --> 01:00:29,780 I was going to say, I don't, I'll just say plus one to what director Carlson was saying that I was at it. I just want to acknowledge that I'm, 464 01:00:31,340 --> 01:00:40,420 and be honest about that I'm having a real hard time working on and you know it's a 465 01:00:40,420 --> 01:00:47,100 new way of thinking for me. These are new ideas for me and I'm just really I'm so wrestling 466 01:00:47,100 --> 01:00:54,460 with them and yeah I mean I have always thought about I have thought about the same dimensions 467 01:00:54,460 --> 01:01:00,940 There's Director Carlson for our, for our anchored work, and if I were to have just sat 468 01:01:00,940 --> 01:01:05,160 down on my own two weeks ago and started drafting a policy, I would have probably had 469 01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:11,340 bored, you know, discrete subgroups, and I would have thought about it that way and just 470 01:01:11,340 --> 01:01:12,380 rattled things off. 471 01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:19,860 The idea of centering on race also, I mean, I'll begin, I'll be taught, I just want to be 472 01:01:19,860 --> 01:01:21,280 honest, makes me uncomfortable. 473 01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:31,040 I don't, for me, it is more difficult to have those conversations than to have conversations 474 01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:33,280 about income. 475 01:01:34,580 --> 01:01:42,440 I find myself more comfortable, but that's part of this process is learning and I'm 476 01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:43,360 working through that. 477 01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:45,460 So I just wanted to put that out there for the board. 478 01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:46,960 I don't know where I was at right now. 479 01:01:50,980 --> 01:01:52,220 I just 480 01:01:54,820 --> 01:02:01,140 wanted to mention when it clicked for me, I do have biracial children, but they're 481 01:02:01,140 --> 01:02:02,760 not half black. 482 01:02:03,940 --> 01:02:13,940 I do have disabled children one cognitively and one physically, and it is a, to say it's 483 01:02:13,940 --> 01:02:17,980 a ton of work and a ton of joy, you know, is an understatement. 484 01:02:17,980 --> 01:02:29,730 But when it finally kicked for me that race is in the center of all of it is what if, you 485 01:02:29,730 --> 01:02:36,550 know, I was going through a divorce and I didn't have money and I had disabled kids and 486 01:02:36,960 --> 01:02:37,810 we were black. 487 01:02:38,780 --> 01:02:43,390 How much more difficult would all of that been in my life? 488 01:02:44,550 --> 01:02:51,830 I think it would have been so much more added stress and so many more things to deal with 489 01:02:51,830 --> 01:02:56,950 emotionally, and I don't know that I would have been as welcomed and treated in the same 490 01:02:56,950 --> 01:02:59,330 way when talking with surgeons. 491 01:03:00,790 --> 01:03:03,530 You know, they tell you, you know you're a child best. 492 01:03:04,170 --> 01:03:08,350 You tell me what you think you want to do with this big medical decision. 493 01:03:09,070 --> 01:03:14,450 I'm not sure I would have been asked those same questions the same way had I not been white. 494 01:03:17,100 --> 01:03:18,500 Thank you. 495 01:03:21,230 --> 01:03:21,330 And 496 01:03:24,660 --> 01:03:32,220 I'll just kind of speak a little personally here as a father to two young growing white boys. 497 01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:38,380 And thinking about also when we talk about and have conversations that center on race, 498 01:03:39,620 --> 01:03:46,320 what are the values that we're communicating to each and every one of our students as well? 499 01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:53,920 And so that's something that's apparent. I've had to be really thoughtful about how I'm communicating 500 01:03:53,920 --> 01:04:00,880 around the values and trying to equip my children to be able to talk about race and as somebody 501 01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:08,520 that's still as a white person trying to learn to be able to really be courageous in that space. 502 01:04:09,340 --> 01:04:15,300 And so I think also maybe for framing for the board and we've talked about, Dr. 503 01:04:15,300 --> 01:04:16,500 or home and talked about this a lot, 504 01:04:16,740 --> 01:04:20,680 but in August is that with your equity policy, 505 01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:23,380 you're looking perhaps to both disrupt 506 01:04:23,910 --> 01:04:27,340 the inequities or the predictability of outcomes 507 01:04:28,030 --> 01:04:29,580 that the board is carrying about. 508 01:04:30,680 --> 01:04:32,740 But you're also, we're also thinking about 509 01:04:32,740 --> 01:04:36,060 if our mission and vision is to fully equip each and every one 510 01:04:36,060 --> 01:04:40,200 of our children and our students to be able to go out 511 01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:42,620 and be contributing members of society. 512 01:04:42,620 --> 01:04:50,240 Um, for each and every one of our students, uh, the, you know, the way the policies and 513 01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:55,080 the ways that we communicate, um, at, uh, at the board and administrative levels communicate 514 01:04:55,080 --> 01:05:01,640 those values and we're, we're setting examples. Um, and so I also think about how do, how 515 01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:07,940 does this type of work impact children who look like my children, as well as, as children 516 01:05:07,940 --> 01:05:14,860 who look like you know who are children of color and so I think there's multiple layers that 517 01:05:14,860 --> 01:05:20,820 is you're working through this policy that is good to be thinking about because when the board 518 01:05:20,820 --> 01:05:27,900 articulates values we're also communicating some things around what does it mean to be a contributing 519 01:05:27,900 --> 01:05:33,540 member in the society and how well are we actually preparing each and every one of our children 520 01:05:33,540 --> 01:05:37,980 to do so. Thank you. Chris. 521 01:05:41,940 --> 01:05:45,060 So actually, Gloria, I just wanted to ask a question again. I find 522 01:05:45,060 --> 01:05:51,840 it useful to try to restate what I've heard from someone to make sure I've understood it. So 523 01:05:51,840 --> 01:06:00,460 centering race in this conversation is a way of saying that we can't responsibly try to tackle equity 524 01:06:00,460 --> 01:06:05,940 for any of these other dimensions without simultaneously tackling race as a dimension of equity. 525 01:06:06,740 --> 01:06:07,240 Is that fair? 526 01:06:07,940 --> 01:06:10,360 Yes, because of the intersections with that, 527 01:06:10,380 --> 01:06:13,660 because then it's almost like we're not being as efficient, 528 01:06:13,700 --> 01:06:15,180 not that this is efficient work. 529 01:06:15,700 --> 01:06:17,800 But if you say we're going to look at our support, 530 01:06:17,920 --> 01:06:21,520 our LGBTQIA community, but then we think about that we have, 531 01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:23,840 for example, that I work with, 532 01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:26,860 an openly gay black male student service special education. 533 01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:29,980 His experience in Washington School District 534 01:06:29,980 --> 01:06:33,320 has not been great on many levels and race intersects 535 01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:36,000 and also the idea that he doesn't feel connected or valued. 536 01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:41,380 within the place where he is a student and so we were to say okay student we're 537 01:06:41,380 --> 01:06:46,040 gonna deal we're gonna think about how do we change policy so or uplift the 538 01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:51,460 policy levels pass around around gender but if there are still struggles we 539 01:06:51,460 --> 01:06:54,660 have to do a race we're not looking at the whole person and so not that all 540 01:06:54,660 --> 01:06:58,340 students have those all those intersectionalities but we're treating we're 541 01:06:58,340 --> 01:07:02,580 supporting our community solicitly instead of saying one at a time because we've 542 01:07:02,580 --> 01:07:04,220 done that, and it hasn't worked. 543 01:07:04,540 --> 01:07:06,800 We think about women's suffrage that when you see the 544 01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:09,880 commerce like, yes, the anti-versive women's suffrage. 545 01:07:10,040 --> 01:07:11,760 But black women didn't receive the right to vote 546 01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:13,140 until way after that. 547 01:07:13,460 --> 01:07:16,160 So if vote were handled at the same time, we would have 548 01:07:16,160 --> 01:07:19,280 then not had so many people continuously disenfranchised 549 01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:21,240 instead of chipping away at it one at a time. 550 01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:28,420 Another piece for me, and then why don't we dive into the 551 01:07:28,420 --> 01:07:30,960 policy and actually have that conversation. 552 01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:41,740 It is so easy for all of us not to talk about race, that it is critically important. 553 01:07:42,590 --> 01:07:49,700 So for me, that's another reason to center on race, because we have to, unfortunately, 554 01:07:50,240 --> 01:08:00,240 force and remind ourselves to have the dialogue about race, and that as a key part of this 555 01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:08,460 work. And so it's that it's the constant reminder that it is race and because it's it's really easy 556 01:08:08,460 --> 01:08:15,260 to put race conversations aside because they are so challenging. And so I think that's another 557 01:08:15,260 --> 01:08:22,000 piece. I don't know if that's a piece, a legitimate piece. That is something for me that is important to 558 01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:26,340 always have race as part of the conversation because I know it's easy not to. 559 01:08:28,440 --> 01:08:30,080 I see three hands 560 01:08:31,560 --> 01:08:37,340 Cassandra, Mike and Eric, I don't know if you had questions, and then I just saw 561 01:08:37,340 --> 01:08:38,860 Mark's hand come up. 562 01:08:54,450 --> 01:09:00,850 No, I had my call. I lost the audio from you folks. I see 563 01:09:00,850 --> 01:09:06,350 where we're going. I think we are still are missing another aspect and especially 564 01:09:06,350 --> 01:09:13,210 there's multicultural as our difference is, the variety of religions. We are at 565 01:09:13,210 --> 01:09:24,450 ignoring or ignoring, but I seem to be putting on the side religious prejudices, the anti-sivitism, 566 01:09:24,610 --> 01:09:30,630 the anti-Muslim, pervasive attitudes are in this district. 567 01:09:32,830 --> 01:09:38,230 This interestingly enough, this conversation was going to happen about a week or so ago 568 01:09:38,230 --> 01:09:44,110 And then all of a sudden, I made a call, John said that's, we're talking about equity 569 01:09:44,110 --> 01:09:49,890 on young Kipper and all of the Jewish families are going to be in services, or they're going 570 01:09:49,890 --> 01:09:50,710 to be with their families. 571 01:09:51,090 --> 01:09:56,250 So we moved it very quickly, but it's, again, it's one of those things that it's an invisible, 572 01:09:56,410 --> 01:10:02,430 if you will, issue that I think we still need to address as well as into raise now. 573 01:10:02,430 --> 01:10:12,330 I think the importance of getting into race gets us past a number of the other barriers 574 01:10:13,790 --> 01:10:21,550 but when it comes to religious or cultural differences as well, I think we still need to keep our eyes on that, especially with the indigenous peoples. 575 01:10:25,370 --> 01:10:34,510 I'm failing. I can't see us. I want to see us address the racial issues but I want to be able to bring the others along with us 576 01:10:34,510 --> 01:10:39,310 Because if we leave one group behind, then we've lived, we've created another chasm. 577 01:10:42,210 --> 01:10:43,350 Absolutely, thank you, Mark. 578 01:10:44,150 --> 01:10:48,850 I think to me, there's some key terms in this work. 579 01:10:48,970 --> 01:10:53,310 One of them being inclusion, inclusivity. 580 01:10:53,850 --> 01:11:00,110 That concept that 31,000 students feel as though they have a place in our schools, 581 01:11:00,370 --> 01:11:01,930 they feel safe in our schools. 582 01:11:01,930 --> 01:11:11,470 they don't have to change who they are to enter into our classrooms and you just 583 01:11:11,470 --> 01:11:17,950 identified another layer of this work. And so none of this is about excluding 584 01:11:17,950 --> 01:11:25,630 any group or individual. It's about creating pathways for inclusion for all of 585 01:11:25,630 --> 01:11:29,010 our students. So thank you. Thank you for that comment. 586 01:11:31,390 --> 01:11:32,050 Matt, do you want to 587 01:11:32,050 --> 01:11:36,690 lead the board through the dialogue around the policy? 588 01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:40,160 I'm happy, too. 589 01:11:40,480 --> 01:11:44,680 So we've started to have a pretty robust conversation 590 01:11:44,680 --> 01:11:48,520 around isolating race or maybe around why that is. 591 01:11:48,740 --> 01:11:51,000 So let's start with that first question. 592 01:11:51,660 --> 01:11:55,220 And in the two model policies that we looked at here, 593 01:11:55,660 --> 01:12:01,000 just as board members, how did you identify ways 594 01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:05,100 in which race was isolated in these policies, 595 01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:07,320 was there's anything that jumped out at you 596 01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:08,420 as you were looking at them? 597 01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:14,600 See I think I see Chris's hand and then Mark's hand? 598 01:12:19,220 --> 01:12:22,620 When it came to the policies, there's a value statement 599 01:12:22,620 --> 01:12:23,700 on the top of the both of them 600 01:12:23,700 --> 01:12:25,380 and then there's a bunch of sub bullets. 601 01:12:26,260 --> 01:12:27,780 And the value statements in both, 602 01:12:28,340 --> 01:12:31,420 race was the first dimension listed 603 01:12:31,420 --> 01:12:40,960 in a list of multiple dimensions and I actually felt that was the appropriate way 604 01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:48,660 to speak to it that raises is you can't tackle any of the others not tackling race but 605 01:12:48,660 --> 01:12:53,720 that we were explicitly saying it was race and not that race is the only. 606 01:12:57,760 --> 01:12:58,820 Director Blusner? 607 01:12:58,820 --> 01:12:59,540 Sir, 608 01:13:12,020 --> 01:13:13,160 if you're talking, you're on mute. 609 01:13:14,180 --> 01:13:16,100 Putting again, cheese, thank you. 610 01:13:20,490 --> 01:13:22,490 So I guess when I look at these two policies, 611 01:13:22,810 --> 01:13:25,090 I do see race as stated first, but that to me 612 01:13:25,090 --> 01:13:27,090 does not give it extra weight in that. 613 01:13:27,210 --> 01:13:30,210 It actually just lays it out as a list of items. 614 01:13:31,210 --> 01:13:34,170 I believe that you can call it out more specifically. 615 01:13:34,450 --> 01:13:36,150 This was actually a discussion that took place 616 01:13:36,150 --> 01:13:38,670 around the WASDA educational equity statement. 617 01:13:39,730 --> 01:13:42,430 That really, you call out race and background 618 01:13:42,430 --> 01:13:47,210 and characteristics, but you do make it clear that race is one of those to play out. 619 01:13:47,390 --> 01:13:51,630 So, I like the value statement. I think that's important where it should be, 620 01:13:51,730 --> 01:13:56,630 but I do think it should get called out explicitly separately. 621 01:13:58,430 --> 01:14:01,790 Can you explain what you mean by that? I don't understand yet. 622 01:14:02,770 --> 01:14:08,110 So, when you get a whole list of characteristics, like you see on these, right, 623 01:14:08,890 --> 01:14:13,950 or if they put in the comments of such as, so you see, regardless of race status, 624 01:14:14,270 --> 01:14:20,550 there's no, that's just listing a variety of terms. I think you could call it 625 01:14:20,550 --> 01:14:24,150 out stronger, you could talk about racial prejudice, you could talk about 626 01:14:24,150 --> 01:14:29,190 discrimination, you can talk about multiple things as opposed to inequities and 627 01:14:29,190 --> 01:14:34,890 bias, it can be a little stronger in that, and that those are races, one of those, 628 01:14:34,890 --> 01:14:37,910 and it is a key one that you call out separately. 629 01:14:41,590 --> 01:14:41,910 Eric? 630 01:14:47,570 --> 01:14:49,310 It's in a, I'm looking at the 631 01:14:49,310 --> 01:14:54,830 Istiqua policy. I don't mean this, I don't think anyone is supposed to go towards 632 01:14:54,830 --> 01:14:59,110 listening, but I don't mean this as a criticism. I, in fact, this is probably 633 01:14:59,110 --> 01:14:59,810 It would be my equivalent. 634 01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:09,800 I feel like it dances around race without ever really acknowledging it. I'll give you a few examples. 635 01:15:10,320 --> 01:15:19,620 For example, one subpart A, the superintendent shall recognize the existence of systemic and institutional inequities for students. 636 01:15:19,620 --> 01:15:24,020 Well, what systems make inequities are we talking about? 637 01:15:24,660 --> 01:15:29,400 I think the one we've heard the most about are ones based on race. 638 01:15:32,100 --> 01:15:37,460 And the policy here, it has a lot where if you just went at it, you can say, 639 01:15:37,520 --> 01:15:41,980 they're probably talking about race, but it doesn't say that. 640 01:15:41,980 --> 01:15:44,440 And, you 641 01:15:46,490 --> 01:15:52,850 know, one other note that I had from meetings was a lot of people on the community 642 01:15:52,850 --> 01:15:58,830 were telling us to be bold with our policy, and I'm trying to do that when I think about 643 01:15:58,830 --> 01:15:59,050 this. 644 01:15:59,370 --> 01:16:05,870 Again, I come into this with fear, with talking about race, so these are sort of things 645 01:16:05,870 --> 01:16:10,790 I'm noticing about myself as I'm reviewing these policies, and also noticing all the policies. 646 01:16:14,060 --> 01:16:15,640 Mark, I think your hand was next. 647 01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:17,900 Thank you. 648 01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:23,020 One of the things I noticed about the other policies and perhaps they predate the timeframe 649 01:16:23,020 --> 01:16:25,460 for it, I can't imagine it to be quite frank. 650 01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:32,200 The issue of not, I think perhaps the reason why race got lost in one of the other policies 651 01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:39,200 that Eric was speaking to, there is no emphasis or there is no galvanizing phrase 652 01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:45,200 that really draw people's attention, it's kind of just, it was a little paddling, if you will. 653 01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:51,040 And my thought is, if we avoid the term Black Lives Matter, 654 01:16:51,540 --> 01:16:57,720 we're not getting anyone's attention and we're ignoring a large segment of the problem. 655 01:16:58,560 --> 01:17:05,460 And to acknowledge that aspect, that finally it highlights what we really intend to do. 656 01:17:05,460 --> 01:17:21,400 We intend to raise as an issue and as a look at the way we teach, look at the way we acknowledge folks, look at the way we look at learning styles, 657 01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:29,480 every all thing about learning what we have in our curriculum so I think that we 658 01:17:29,480 --> 01:17:35,900 need to be able to have a galvanizing point up front to be quite frank if you 659 01:17:35,900 --> 01:17:46,760 know the reason get folks attention to listen to it that's it thank you hands 660 01:17:48,900 --> 01:17:52,820 on moving so I think I see Chris and then Eric this 661 01:17:57,140 --> 01:17:58,200 race isolated in these 662 01:17:58,200 --> 01:18:02,360 policies is not the question I'm really interested in. I'm interested in how should 663 01:18:02,360 --> 01:18:09,860 race be isolated in policies. And from that perspective, looking at this, there are things 664 01:18:09,860 --> 01:18:17,140 where race should be not just were committed to raising the achievement of all learners 665 01:18:17,140 --> 01:18:22,820 regardless of race, but to acknowledge the systemic inequities that have been present 666 01:18:22,820 --> 01:18:32,420 or race. That is, to me how should race be isolated isn't at the level of the bullet point 667 01:18:32,420 --> 01:18:39,900 because we want the superintendent to provide equitable access for all of these strata. 668 01:18:40,440 --> 01:18:46,780 But at the beginning, why are we committed to raising the achievement of all learners regardless 669 01:18:46,780 --> 01:18:52,940 levels of race, status, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, because race is the definition 670 01:18:52,940 --> 01:19:04,660 of institutional disadvantage, but that is the textbook case of why opportunity, how 671 01:19:04,660 --> 01:19:06,580 opportunity is consistently denied. 672 01:19:07,620 --> 01:19:15,060 And so I think putting something in there about why we carry about race, perhaps more explicitly 673 01:19:15,060 --> 01:19:23,140 then we put in for the others where many of these do fit together but you know the problem always 674 01:19:23,140 --> 01:19:28,560 becomes okay so if we say we care about race because does that mean we then have to have a clause 675 01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:35,500 for we care about each of these other constituencies because and I don't I don't know how to solve how to 676 01:19:35,500 --> 01:19:36,180 that needle. 677 01:19:42,490 --> 01:19:50,230 Eric and then I think we'll move on to subsequent questions. So one 678 01:19:50,230 --> 01:19:56,690 thing I've as a listener director Carlson also thinking about myself is earlier 679 01:19:56,690 --> 01:20:03,050 we talked about the idea of the concepts of a desk visit mindset versus asset-based 680 01:20:03,050 --> 01:20:11,770 mindset. And I still don't fully understand that. And I worry, you know, what's the 681 01:20:11,770 --> 01:20:13,850 thing Chris was talking about? What do you personally say? 682 01:20:16,690 --> 01:20:18,870 I can't, so the director 683 01:20:18,870 --> 01:20:24,590 Carlson just said that those concepts resonate my mind again and realize that I do not know 684 01:20:24,590 --> 01:20:25,550 how to apply them. 685 01:20:27,570 --> 01:20:31,690 I still don't know how to apply those in working on this policy. 686 01:20:31,690 --> 01:20:34,610 or even an understanding policies. 687 01:20:35,990 --> 01:20:39,130 I'm going to go or is maybe going to rescue me here 688 01:20:39,130 --> 01:20:40,710 or at least give me some help. 689 01:20:40,850 --> 01:20:41,010 Yeah. 690 01:20:42,130 --> 01:20:44,330 Well, I was thinking to help with the idea. 691 01:20:44,330 --> 01:20:46,590 I hear the word fears coming up a lot too. 692 01:20:46,830 --> 01:20:51,710 And the idea around what you just mentioned around race 693 01:20:51,710 --> 01:20:58,070 and I think what would be helpful would be some background reading 694 01:20:58,070 --> 01:21:00,470 around the idea around death-to-base thinking. 695 01:21:00,470 --> 01:21:13,510 And I think if some reading around the formation of education and who was meant to uphold and put in a preferential situation, that will be helpful. 696 01:21:13,610 --> 01:21:17,430 And also there's some critical race theory, which is a little bit different. 697 01:21:17,610 --> 01:21:29,770 It's a little bit more harder hitting in the way that it traces a direct through line between the concept of race and how that plays out politically. 698 01:21:29,770 --> 01:21:36,250 and institutions. That could be really helpful. And one, because this work can be fear-inducing, 699 01:21:36,310 --> 01:21:42,470 especially when it takes us out of our comfort zones. So I was just offering that, because there's 700 01:21:42,470 --> 01:21:47,090 nothing in this session that I can say to make you less fearful. And like a little bit that you've 701 01:21:47,090 --> 01:21:52,850 gotten from us around deficit-based thinking, I think that some work Zoretta Hammond lays it out 702 01:21:52,850 --> 01:21:59,510 really well and also offer resource around critical race theory which could really help 703 01:22:00,370 --> 01:22:05,010 think deeply about the deficit-based thinking which could frame some of work for your board policy 704 01:22:05,010 --> 01:22:09,730 even though some of the details of this will come out in the admin policy more likely than a board 705 01:22:09,730 --> 01:22:15,730 policy. Yeah and I think just building on that I think this you know hearing as the 706 01:22:15,730 --> 01:22:18,490 the board's having this conversation. 707 01:22:19,390 --> 01:22:24,490 This is also giving us some ideas of ways 708 01:22:24,490 --> 01:22:26,370 in which we can continue to support the board 709 01:22:27,530 --> 01:22:32,150 as you engage in your work to develop policy. 710 01:22:34,070 --> 01:22:35,230 Siri, and then Mike? 711 01:22:37,500 --> 01:22:39,640 Yeah, so Mike was just around the whole asset building 712 01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:42,160 that it would be good to be getting some stronger back 713 01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:44,320 on the floor, kind of address that really, to Jess. 714 01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:49,820 Yes, I think that's the way to really think about writing the policy is with that angle 715 01:22:49,820 --> 01:22:55,040 because I'm 100 percent in agreement that everybody comes to the table with a lot and 716 01:22:55,040 --> 01:22:55,700 how do we build? 717 01:22:55,880 --> 01:23:00,960 How do we ensure this policy does that same thing along that line? 718 01:23:06,520 --> 01:23:10,800 Yeah, maybe just to offer two concrete examples of where there may be deficit-based thinking 719 01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:11,500 in our system. 720 01:23:11,800 --> 01:23:16,980 And I think Gloria mentioned earlier, we have an over-representation of students who are 721 01:23:16,980 --> 01:23:20,740 referred to special education who are Latinx or black. 722 01:23:22,260 --> 01:23:25,860 And we know that you can look at other schools 723 01:23:25,860 --> 01:23:27,220 and other districts that don't have 724 01:23:27,220 --> 01:23:28,620 that same representation. 725 01:23:28,840 --> 01:23:30,000 And so then you have to ask the question, 726 01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:32,220 well, why are so many Latinx students 727 01:23:32,220 --> 01:23:33,840 being referred to special education? 728 01:23:34,080 --> 01:23:36,500 And that does lead to the question, 729 01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:38,400 is there a deficit-based thinking there 730 01:23:38,860 --> 01:23:41,900 that there's something missing that that student would 731 01:23:41,900 --> 01:23:43,620 need special education services? 732 01:23:43,780 --> 01:23:46,200 And in fact, there's something that makes us think 733 01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:52,400 there's a disability there. Rather than thinking that maybe it's the way that we're teaching 734 01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:57,780 and so are we teaching in a way that makes the language accessible to students? Are we taking 735 01:23:57,780 --> 01:24:02,300 advantage of their own learned experiences and their lived experiences? Are kids seeing themselves 736 01:24:02,300 --> 01:24:08,000 in the books that they're reading, in the stories that we're telling? And if not, they may not be 737 01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:13,980 connecting to our curriculum. And so as a result of that, we assume that there's something missing 738 01:24:13,980 --> 01:24:18,500 or something wrong with them as opposed to changing our system and changing our structure. 739 01:24:19,040 --> 01:24:23,800 There was a nice example I heard somebody shared one time, you know, if your flower is not 740 01:24:24,540 --> 01:24:29,780 blooming or blossoming, you don't try to fix the flower. You enrich the soil, you'll water more, 741 01:24:29,900 --> 01:24:36,020 you fix the environment. And that's really I think where we are. There was a superintendent down in 742 01:24:36,020 --> 01:24:41,320 San Diego, Rudy Crew, black superintendent who was saying, you know, oftentimes too, we fall into 743 01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:44,020 to this, oh, the poor, name the group, 744 01:24:44,260 --> 01:24:46,520 black student, Hispanic student, poor student, 745 01:24:47,000 --> 01:24:50,280 and we have a tendency to lower our expectations sometimes too. 746 01:24:50,460 --> 01:24:52,640 And so again, there are we pushing students 747 01:24:52,640 --> 01:24:54,220 into special education, because well, 748 01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:55,620 they're just, they're not coming along. 749 01:24:55,740 --> 01:24:58,640 So those are really concrete examples of deficit thinking 750 01:24:58,640 --> 01:25:00,740 and how we have to change our approach 751 01:25:00,740 --> 01:25:03,100 as opposed to trying to fix our kids 752 01:25:03,100 --> 01:25:04,220 who really don't need fixing. 753 01:25:04,400 --> 01:25:05,700 They just need good instruction 754 01:25:05,700 --> 01:25:08,020 that's suited to their learning styles 755 01:25:08,020 --> 01:25:10,220 or their learning needs or their language abilities 756 01:25:10,220 --> 01:25:17,700 and not assume that they're coming in with something missing, but assume that maybe there's just a mismatch between what we're doing and what their 757 01:25:17,700 --> 01:25:24,600 experiences are, and if we can bridge that, I think it's gross things, or Adam's talking about, then we can actually start making a difference. 758 01:25:25,100 --> 01:25:30,200 As opposed to if you think there's something wrong with the kid, your approach is very different, and we see that in our system. 759 01:25:30,840 --> 01:25:35,280 I think there's some real opportunities. It's a function of people understanding more. 760 01:25:35,280 --> 01:25:41,160 And so Mike, I'm just going to jump off, build off of what you were just sharing there and 761 01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:47,980 then I think that actually can help kind of steer us in looking into the connection 762 01:25:47,980 --> 01:25:54,540 between an asset based kind of mindset or outlook and it's a theory of action. 763 01:25:54,800 --> 01:25:57,420 So Mike just articulated several theories of action. 764 01:25:57,660 --> 01:26:03,660 So for example, one theory of action would be that if students see representations of themselves 765 01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:07,780 in the curriculum and to the materials that they're reading, 766 01:26:08,160 --> 01:26:12,020 the examples that are provided that as a result, 767 01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:14,700 they're going to have higher levels of engagement 768 01:26:14,700 --> 01:26:19,780 and subsequently you would expect to have higher, 769 01:26:19,980 --> 01:26:23,660 you know, better academic outcomes as a result. 770 01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:26,060 So that's an example of a theory of action. 771 01:26:26,200 --> 01:26:28,040 It might just articulate several of those 772 01:26:28,040 --> 01:26:31,420 that really go back and look at the ways 773 01:26:31,420 --> 01:26:41,040 in which our educational system influences or impacts our students and so I think that actually 774 01:26:41,040 --> 01:26:46,720 might be a helpful way for us to look at these policies because if we can look at a theory of 775 01:26:46,720 --> 01:26:53,680 action we can hold up and say is that theory of action asset based because it's really primarily 776 01:26:53,680 --> 01:26:58,560 focused back on the ways in which we are at the extent to which we aren't meeting students needs 777 01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:04,980 or as a deficit based in ways in which we're blaming the flower or it's so to speak. 778 01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:12,840 So why don't we do that and just kind of call out like what just generally, 779 01:27:13,700 --> 01:27:19,140 what were some of the theories of action that you pulled out in these equity policies? 780 01:27:20,560 --> 01:27:25,880 And that might help us be mindful as we go to develop a, as a board goes to develop a policy 781 01:27:26,980 --> 01:27:32,640 around kind of what are you wanting to see that and why would you what's the 782 01:27:32,640 --> 01:27:34,220 change that you would expect as a result? 783 01:27:49,700 --> 01:27:51,180 Those are some complicated questions. 784 01:27:52,460 --> 01:27:59,740 So let me take a stab at starting that conversation because to me it's a 785 01:28:01,950 --> 01:28:08,250 theory of action comes down to dimensions where we can change this is from 786 01:28:08,250 --> 01:28:13,370 things in place. And this is where I'm starting to see that there might be a web 787 01:28:13,370 --> 01:28:18,830 of connections, because not all of these apply to all of the subsets that we've already 788 01:28:18,830 --> 01:28:25,810 started discussing, I mean, race, ability, which abilities physical, cognitive, or mental 789 01:28:25,810 --> 01:28:32,150 health, identity, which to me means LGBTQ or religion or ethnicity, all of these are things 790 01:28:32,150 --> 01:28:38,150 that you get at home, and then income is something, but cultural fluency, does cultural fluency 791 01:28:38,150 --> 01:28:38,830 apply to income? 792 01:28:39,130 --> 01:28:39,710 No, it doesn't. 793 01:28:39,710 --> 01:28:52,470 But cultural fluency sure as hell applies to identity and so, you know, the the theories of action to me sort of start with cultural fluency, support systems, and 794 01:28:54,350 --> 01:28:58,750 I'm running out of dimensions, but I'm sure that there's a leafy not one hiding that I'm missing 795 01:29:02,080 --> 01:29:09,460 Expectation that's cultural. Well anyway, but these are the big picture things we need to connect as things we can 796 01:29:09,460 --> 01:29:19,480 And X is that we can do to influence, to support groups that have inequitable outcomes 797 01:29:19,480 --> 01:29:20,980 in achieving actual work. 798 01:29:22,860 --> 01:29:24,520 Is that, I hope that's not. 799 01:29:26,860 --> 01:29:30,600 Well, thank you for jumping in there, because it is complex. 800 01:29:31,580 --> 01:29:36,820 I see Siri, Cassandra, I've raised her hand, so Siri, do you want to jump in next, like 801 01:29:36,820 --> 01:29:37,180 Cassandra? 802 01:29:38,680 --> 01:29:39,180 Sure. 803 01:29:39,600 --> 01:29:43,960 So, as I was trying to think about the stare of action, I was like, I needed to move 804 01:29:43,960 --> 01:29:44,540 to examples. 805 01:29:44,840 --> 01:29:48,220 So I was just thinking, so I went through the first in policy to look through and say, 806 01:29:48,220 --> 01:29:52,880 okay, so if this is the policy, that you will not fail to recruit employee support and 807 01:29:52,880 --> 01:29:57,260 retain a workforce reflective of our diverse student population and continuously develop 808 01:29:57,260 --> 01:29:57,920 that workforce. 809 01:29:57,920 --> 01:29:59,560 of course, that day. 810 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:10,640 The result is that our students will feel represented and engaged and therefore have stronger academic outcome. Am I giving this correct as to how that's playing out? Yes. 811 01:30:13,020 --> 01:30:29,120 Yeah, that would, that would be a great example as a theory of action would be if we have a, if our work, our educational workforce is more representative of the student population, which we serve as a result. 812 01:30:30,240 --> 01:30:34,720 our students are going to engage and have positive outcomes. 813 01:30:34,980 --> 01:30:39,680 So you're essentially saying that this board is highlighting that we think this is almost 814 01:30:39,680 --> 01:30:46,740 like a necessary condition to achieve that outcome and so as a board you're going to 815 01:30:46,740 --> 01:30:52,820 have to talk about what do we think are those conditions in order to get us to more equitable 816 01:30:52,820 --> 01:30:54,160 outcomes for our students. 817 01:30:54,160 --> 01:31:15,900 And so when I think of the whole asset conversation was there you know the the one that I see doing and it lines well actually with what I heard in several of the linkages was recognizing the strengths that come to the table of our students, our families, our teachers, our community and being able to build off of those going forward. 818 01:31:19,030 --> 01:31:22,590 because, ideally, by doing that, you can then start to address some of those inequities. 819 01:31:22,750 --> 01:31:30,030 I also think the whole key piece in there of addressing systemic problems and challenges. 820 01:31:30,390 --> 01:31:33,590 That is a key thing that has to happen. 821 01:31:33,730 --> 01:31:36,230 I mean, I remember speaking about paradigm shift. 822 01:31:36,890 --> 01:31:38,810 That's what has to happen. 823 01:31:42,540 --> 01:31:43,580 Thank you, Cassandra. 824 01:31:44,720 --> 01:31:54,200 I'm just thinking about having good and avid volunteer at the high school level and every 825 01:31:54,200 --> 01:31:59,600 time I walked in the door I thought why don't we have an element of this in all the classes 826 01:32:00,390 --> 01:32:08,240 because really it's trying to set expectations at a higher level to give you the opportunity 827 01:32:09,210 --> 01:32:12,080 to go a couple different directions after high school. 828 01:32:12,080 --> 01:32:27,540 So why wouldn't we be setting those expectations just generally for all students to make sure that they had the option to go to college by getting all those pre-rexed on and doing things in order so they have enough time and high school to finish them. 829 01:32:29,440 --> 01:32:40,860 I don't know how avid is going in a remote setting or if we're doing it, but I've always thought that that could be expanded to reach a lot larger population. 830 01:32:40,860 --> 01:32:48,940 The other thing I wanted to mention was with the home to school partnership, families 831 01:32:48,940 --> 01:32:56,820 to your local community school and when you're an elementary, it's historically been easier 832 01:32:56,820 --> 01:33:02,400 to develop some of those partnerships because you're taking your child to school and picking 833 01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:02,820 them up. 834 01:33:03,420 --> 01:33:10,480 However, there's now a large percentage of parents that their student goes to daycare and 835 01:33:10,480 --> 01:33:15,760 somebody else brings them to school, so you're missing a whole lot of connection 836 01:33:15,760 --> 01:33:22,100 opportunity because they can't be there. And I feel that we need to reach out to 837 01:33:22,100 --> 01:33:29,400 our parent community to make those ties stronger. If they would like to participate, 838 01:33:29,620 --> 01:33:33,140 we would like to partner with them. And that goes for all students. 839 01:33:35,400 --> 01:33:36,100 I think there's 840 01:33:36,100 --> 01:33:43,540 things we could do in the almost immediate future, that would help us get more 841 01:33:43,540 --> 01:33:44,900 diversity into our. 842 01:33:48,230 --> 01:33:50,830 Thank you, Sandra. I see Mark in the Eric. 843 01:33:54,360 --> 01:33:56,320 Yes, thanks. As 844 01:33:56,320 --> 01:34:00,600 we're going through this discussion, especially when it comes to curriculum, our 845 01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:07,220 reminded of shortly after I joined the board, there was a problem with the 846 01:34:07,220 --> 01:34:14,160 the curriculum on world history, and among the problems, and to be quite frank, it was 847 01:34:14,160 --> 01:34:21,140 the primary focus at the time because the parents who brought it up, Muslim religion was 848 01:34:21,140 --> 01:34:28,660 not even mentioned in the history book. And the reason that was given at the time was 849 01:34:28,660 --> 01:34:35,240 that we had to have a certain century cutoff, and they missed it. And to be quite frank, 850 01:34:35,240 --> 01:34:44,580 I think that's another example, I think, of disinclusion, exclusion, if you will, culturally. 851 01:34:45,400 --> 01:34:46,900 I hate to see that happen. 852 01:34:47,480 --> 01:34:54,720 And I know it is happening in our history classes with race and other ethnicities, 853 01:34:55,840 --> 01:34:59,860 whether it's black, indigenous people, whatever. 854 01:35:01,640 --> 01:35:08,880 in Latinx groups. I would like to see us make sure that we learn from that experience. 855 01:35:08,980 --> 01:35:16,000 And I would, to be quite frank, never heard the end result. I was just told it was dismissed because, after all, 856 01:35:16,160 --> 01:35:19,560 they missed the cutoff point, if you will. I hope that's no longer being used. 857 01:35:23,160 --> 01:35:24,080 Thank you, Mark, Eric. 858 01:35:26,480 --> 01:35:32,560 Yeah, so there's two. I believe both of the policies have similar language. 859 01:35:34,600 --> 01:35:40,180 and I'm going to try to articulate the theory of action when I think it's going 860 01:35:42,580 --> 01:35:43,680 to consider it. 861 01:35:43,880 --> 01:35:47,560 I'll just pick it up from ISQUAS, but I believe it was also in the North-Thirst. 862 01:35:47,920 --> 01:35:52,940 There's a policy of the effect of to promote an environment and a culture that supports and encourages 863 01:35:52,940 --> 01:35:55,120 the effect of engagement of all students and fosters. 864 01:35:56,580 --> 01:35:58,260 I lost the player. 865 01:35:58,760 --> 01:36:00,500 Fosters cultural competency in students. 866 01:36:00,500 --> 01:36:05,620 students. And for me, the theory of action is if 867 01:36:07,900 --> 01:36:13,740 our students feel welcome and feel like 868 01:36:13,740 --> 01:36:25,180 they can trust the system that they're participating in, that there will be, well, that's 869 01:36:25,180 --> 01:36:30,200 an interesting question. So I'm trying to connect the dots here. I suppose that one, 870 01:36:30,400 --> 01:36:33,320 there will feel a bit more comfortable of accessing the different things that our 871 01:36:33,320 --> 01:36:42,080 system can provide. And two, I think if it's, you know, I can, first of all experience, 872 01:36:42,200 --> 01:36:47,000 when you feel more comfortable in your environment, you're, it's easier to succeed. It's just 873 01:36:47,000 --> 01:36:49,280 easier to do better when you feel supported and comfortable. 874 01:36:53,460 --> 01:36:53,580 Right. 875 01:36:54,360 --> 01:36:54,500 Yeah. 876 01:36:55,100 --> 01:36:55,500 Yeah. 877 01:36:55,740 --> 01:37:01,300 We've heard a lot. We heard a lot of, you know, the community languages I attended, I heard 878 01:37:01,300 --> 01:37:08,200 a lot of feedback along the lines of just wanting to be able to feel that trust, not feeling 879 01:37:08,200 --> 01:37:15,820 a part of the district, but feeling like this is something I'm having to push to interact 880 01:37:15,820 --> 01:37:16,160 with. 881 01:37:19,060 --> 01:37:20,640 Thank you very much. 882 01:37:20,740 --> 01:37:24,580 This has been a really, hopefully you found this a really rich conversation. 883 01:37:24,960 --> 01:37:30,740 I know I've been taking some notes and you know, some ways that we can continue to support 884 01:37:31,300 --> 01:37:32,620 you as you have these conversations. 885 01:37:32,620 --> 01:37:39,220 I think maybe a good way to just kind of wrap up and we'll just just go around and for each 886 01:37:39,220 --> 01:37:45,540 board member to either identify an aspect of one of these policies. So if there was just something 887 01:37:45,540 --> 01:37:52,080 that spoke to you that just really resonated, I want to hold on to this because that I could see 888 01:37:52,080 --> 01:38:01,100 that having a place ultimately in our policy or what was just something that was missing and 889 01:38:01,100 --> 01:38:05,360 that was absent in these policies that you'd like to. 890 01:38:05,660 --> 01:38:07,780 So we'll just kind of quickly go around. 891 01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:10,180 And if each board member can identify, 892 01:38:10,360 --> 01:38:12,020 there's something that's hold on to this 893 01:38:12,020 --> 01:38:13,300 or maybe something that was missing. 894 01:38:14,940 --> 01:38:17,860 And if you just want to raise your hands when you're ready 895 01:38:17,860 --> 01:38:21,680 and then we'll wrap up and we'll address the budget. 896 01:38:22,900 --> 01:38:23,200 Cassandra? 897 01:38:24,900 --> 01:38:27,800 Something that really resonates with me is, 898 01:38:27,800 --> 01:38:35,640 is when you can no longer predict the likelihood of success, I think that might be one of the 899 01:38:35,640 --> 01:38:43,100 best ways I have ever heard equity define when you can no longer predict whether or 900 01:38:43,100 --> 01:38:44,020 not you're going to succeed. 901 01:38:47,440 --> 01:38:48,080 Thank you. 902 01:38:59,690 --> 01:39:02,130 Yeah, so I've got two. 903 01:39:02,350 --> 01:39:08,630 The first is that this is getting down in the weeds, but I think at an appropriate level. 904 01:39:08,630 --> 01:39:13,830 I think discipline didn't get called out enough, equity in discipline, disciplinary 905 01:39:13,830 --> 01:39:17,230 action was a big theme that I took from several of the meetings I was in. 906 01:39:19,550 --> 01:39:25,670 The other one that is, you know, of all the things, I don't know if it gives me hope or 907 01:39:25,670 --> 01:39:29,170 it just confuses me, but gender is not the same thing as sex. 908 01:39:30,310 --> 01:39:37,650 And the fact that sex doesn't show up in either of these policies, male and female remains 909 01:39:37,650 --> 01:39:42,510 a breakout that we get. And it's something I think should be part of our equity policy. 910 01:39:42,690 --> 01:39:46,930 Even if we largely treat it as a mountain that has been summited. 911 01:39:50,520 --> 01:39:52,040 Thank you. Mark. 912 01:39:58,820 --> 01:40:04,520 So I look at the policies that we've been given. And now I've left for a crack. I think it's 913 01:40:04,520 --> 01:40:09,980 the, uh, uh, it's called doesn't really address, uh, the issue of curriculum and a balanced 914 01:40:09,980 --> 01:40:18,760 curriculum, the idea of being more inclusive in that curriculum. To me, whether it's kids 915 01:40:18,760 --> 01:40:24,880 that they can identify in the literature, or it's the way history is presented, or 916 01:40:24,880 --> 01:40:30,380 political science is presented, then they're not going to feel a part of the class either. 917 01:40:31,420 --> 01:40:36,580 So as I looked, I wanted to make sure that when we look at this, that we look at how we 918 01:40:36,580 --> 01:40:44,620 can change the system, if you will, if there's a systemic problem, part of that systemic, 919 01:40:44,620 --> 01:40:47,920 if you will, or part of that system, is the curriculum. 920 01:40:48,480 --> 01:40:54,460 If we don't address that, then we're really trying to, we're probably going to basically 921 01:40:56,320 --> 01:41:02,300 do ourselves the failure in that respect, not intentionally, but I think it will be a 922 01:41:02,300 --> 01:41:07,020 missing GAMP that will come down back to Haunt as if you. 923 01:41:09,610 --> 01:41:10,070 All right, thanks. 924 01:41:11,170 --> 01:41:14,070 Siri, and then we'll wrap up with Eric. 925 01:41:16,260 --> 01:41:19,140 So I think that the focus on systemic issues 926 01:41:19,140 --> 01:41:21,480 and how you change those as a key thing the policy has 927 01:41:21,480 --> 01:41:21,880 to have. 928 01:41:22,100 --> 01:41:27,240 I appreciated the working to be very system focused 929 01:41:27,240 --> 01:41:29,700 in these policies that they were not trying to say. 930 01:41:29,840 --> 01:41:31,160 You need to resolve the kid issue. 931 01:41:31,260 --> 01:41:33,540 But really, it was how do you address the bigger picture 932 01:41:33,540 --> 01:41:39,780 around it. I liked the way that actually social emotional learning and well-being was called 933 01:41:39,780 --> 01:41:46,600 out as well as not just curriculum as Mark was speaking to but the extracurricular as 934 01:41:46,600 --> 01:41:49,600 I think to that it's the whole community component. 935 01:41:51,680 --> 01:41:53,700 Those are the pieces that I thought about 936 01:41:53,700 --> 01:41:55,500 that I really liked with in it. 937 01:41:57,600 --> 01:42:01,060 I also think the value statement at the top where the board 938 01:42:01,060 --> 01:42:05,000 it actually states a value statement and then it moves through to what the superintendent 939 01:42:05,000 --> 01:42:09,460 shall or not fail I think is of importance because that's why we can really call that 940 01:42:09,460 --> 01:42:10,160 piece out. 941 01:42:13,080 --> 01:42:13,500 Thanks. 942 01:42:14,500 --> 01:42:15,080 Eric. 943 01:42:16,260 --> 01:42:21,360 The one that really is resonated with me is in the InstaQuad policy it's the superintendent 944 01:42:21,360 --> 01:42:26,560 shall and provide equitable access and academic support throughout our educational system. 945 01:42:28,900 --> 01:42:33,220 We talk about this all the time, you look at who we are accessing a lot of our programs 946 01:42:33,220 --> 01:42:34,480 and it is not equitable. 947 01:42:38,780 --> 01:42:40,240 That one really resonates with me. 948 01:42:43,700 --> 01:42:43,820 Great. 949 01:42:44,400 --> 01:42:45,620 Well, thank you. 950 01:42:47,420 --> 01:42:53,960 I certainly appreciate that everybody's willingness to really lean into hard conversations. 951 01:42:54,400 --> 01:42:59,540 And I think also, you know, the courage we call these courageous conversations and the courage 952 01:42:59,540 --> 01:43:05,440 to just acknowledge the challenge and sometimes the discomfort in having these conversations. 953 01:43:06,120 --> 01:43:10,960 And we've for the past hour and a half have a really rich conversation around these. 954 01:43:11,120 --> 01:43:14,600 So thank you for letting me give me the opportunity to facilitate this and 955 01:43:14,600 --> 01:43:18,920 for the willingness to lean into this conversation. 956 01:43:22,350 --> 01:43:27,890 In board briefs this week, you'll find two articles that I'm going to pass along. 957 01:43:28,310 --> 01:43:30,070 I don't know what those articles are yet. 958 01:43:30,070 --> 01:43:38,770 but the topics will be an article about centering race in the work and an article on asset-based mindset. 959 01:43:39,870 --> 01:43:47,190 Just as I heard the conversation, I think those are two key pieces that continue to think about and learn, 960 01:43:47,530 --> 01:43:56,070 and so I'll connect with the team around that because I know there's a wealth of knowledge within the group 961 01:43:56,070 --> 01:44:01,970 to provide the board with some really quality reading that's really focused on those two topics. 962 01:44:02,310 --> 01:44:05,770 So I hope you found the conversation valuable. 963 01:44:06,450 --> 01:44:14,030 It's not easy work, you know, when I talked about that individual journey that each of us are on, 964 01:44:14,830 --> 01:44:19,510 it's just that commitment to growth, always learning, always growing. 965 01:44:19,850 --> 01:44:24,810 And I appreciate the board being willing to do that work in public. 966 01:44:25,690 --> 01:44:30,550 because it's hard enough to do in a small group and it's probably even harder 967 01:44:30,550 --> 01:44:36,590 that it's recorded and being broadcast live. So let's just be honest that's 968 01:44:36,590 --> 01:44:41,250 that's not easy. So thank you Gloria for coming in and you know providing 969 01:44:41,250 --> 01:44:47,690 context and background and joy and Mike and Matt. So just thank you everybody for 970 01:44:47,690 --> 01:44:51,750 engaging in this conversation and so appreciate that. 971 01:44:54,250 --> 01:44:58,250 Are we ready to move on to a budget? 972 01:45:01,170 --> 01:45:13,550 Can I have a five minute break? Why don't we make a standard header handrake? Do you want to one last? No, I'm just not very efficient. My handrake. 973 01:45:15,910 --> 01:45:25,070 I'm like a five minute break, do I? So back it eight, 15? Yeah, let's do that. Great. Thank you. Thank you. 974 01:50:50,160 --> 01:50:50,880 I am here. 975 01:50:54,460 --> 01:50:59,080 Back live, Eric. Okay. The next and last. 976 01:50:59,080 --> 01:51:04,260 Last topic for tonight's study session is a 2020-2021 budget update. 977 01:51:05,440 --> 01:51:09,620 Dr. Holman, will you, I think you're going to hand it off to Barbara, were you latest through this? 978 01:51:10,000 --> 01:51:14,840 Yeah, I'll preface it and then hand it off to Barbara. 979 01:51:15,160 --> 01:51:26,820 So, as you know, very interesting year related to finances, I think to start it off, we are in good fiscal shape. 980 01:51:27,520 --> 01:51:33,300 We have planned well, we have contingencies and reserves. 981 01:51:34,800 --> 01:51:43,320 And everything that has led up to this year has really set us up to be in a good solid fiscal place. 982 01:51:43,760 --> 01:51:50,980 That doesn't mean we don't need to look ahead and kind of know what's happening at a very detailed level, but we are in a good fiscal place. 983 01:51:50,980 --> 01:51:57,080 So, I want to lead with that because I think that's a very important part for like Washington 984 01:51:57,080 --> 01:51:57,900 school district. 985 01:51:58,140 --> 01:52:02,520 That is not the case for many districts across the state of Washington. 986 01:52:02,520 --> 01:52:08,220 When you see districts that have had to lay off their entire fleet of bus drivers and half 987 01:52:08,220 --> 01:52:13,480 of their parent educators, you know, when you see those things, I would imagine it probably 988 01:52:13,480 --> 01:52:19,060 evokes questions and how are we doing and why aren't we doing that, things like that. 989 01:52:19,060 --> 01:52:26,540 And so Barbara and team have walked through really to 990 01:52:29,040 --> 01:52:32,080 talk about our budget, 991 01:52:34,370 --> 01:52:35,030 revenues 992 01:52:35,030 --> 01:52:42,750 and expenditures in a way to articulate kind of the impact of COVID and remote learning 993 01:52:43,380 --> 01:52:46,310 along with where we are fiscally. 994 01:52:46,790 --> 01:52:52,770 And so she and I have gone back and forth a number of times around this because it sounds 995 01:52:52,770 --> 01:53:01,130 simple, but it is a complex topic when you're talking about a lack of revenue coming in versus an actual expenditure. 996 01:53:01,490 --> 01:53:05,770 Those are two very different ways of either not receiving money or 997 01:53:05,770 --> 01:53:08,030 expending money that you weren't anticipating. 998 01:53:08,310 --> 01:53:13,450 And so we tried to articulate this in a very easy to consume way. 999 01:53:13,850 --> 01:53:22,150 And so with that, I will introduce Barbara Postumus, our associate superintendent of business and support services. 1000 01:53:22,150 --> 01:53:26,390 Great. Thank you, John, and I'm going to share my PowerPoint. 1001 01:53:38,340 --> 01:53:46,660 All right. Here it is. So tonight we're going to review. We've been talking with the board 1002 01:53:46,660 --> 01:53:54,520 since March and discussing the financial impacts. And as John mentioned, it's not only financial 1003 01:53:54,520 --> 01:54:01,660 impacts of what we've had to spend in PPE and software and cleaning, but decreased revenue 1004 01:54:01,660 --> 01:54:07,980 as well. So tonight we're going to focus on the impact, really, to the 2021 budget. So we're 1005 01:54:07,980 --> 01:54:12,800 going to talk about our budget outlook and the assumptions around that. We're going to look 1006 01:54:12,800 --> 01:54:15,840 at specific budget impacts and then talk about next steps. 1007 01:54:18,110 --> 01:54:20,830 So first I want to tie our conversation 1008 01:54:20,830 --> 01:54:29,830 back to our policy. So OE5 is our operational expectation around financial planning and it 1009 01:54:29,830 --> 01:54:41,690 discuss is not only the budget that we will develop but it also in item 5.4 and 5.5, it talks about 1010 01:54:41,690 --> 01:54:46,550 we will share our assumptions which we will continue to do with you tonight and then 1011 01:54:46,550 --> 01:54:56,050 assures fiscal soundness in future years and then our policy also talks about providing necessary 1012 01:54:56,050 --> 01:55:01,550 information to the board on matters with significant budgetary impacts so we're 1013 01:55:01,550 --> 01:55:03,410 going to again talk about that tonight. 1014 01:55:06,370 --> 01:55:08,030 So we'll go over Outlook and Assumptions 1015 01:55:08,030 --> 01:55:12,750 and tonight is focused on the general fund that is our primary day-to-day 1016 01:55:12,750 --> 01:55:21,150 operations and where most the majority of the impacts are being felt. So first 1017 01:55:21,150 --> 01:55:25,850 I want to review some assumptions based on the data that I will share with you 1018 01:55:25,850 --> 01:55:36,850 So right now we are assuming that the legislature will not give districts any mid-year state funding cuts. 1019 01:55:37,170 --> 01:55:41,730 So currently the legislature comes back in session in January. 1020 01:55:42,450 --> 01:55:47,170 We know there is a statewide revenue deficit due to the economy. 1021 01:55:47,870 --> 01:55:53,950 But right now these assumptions assume no additional cuts to school districts, no cuts to school districts. 1022 01:55:53,950 --> 01:56:01,010 We have shared with the board in the past that because we are not transporting the majority 1023 01:56:01,010 --> 01:56:05,610 of our students, they will be reducing our transportation revenue. 1024 01:56:06,310 --> 01:56:11,710 There is the potential that the legislature will provide some relief when they come back 1025 01:56:11,710 --> 01:56:17,850 in session in January, but our assumptions right now assume that we will receive the full 1026 01:56:17,850 --> 01:56:20,030 loss in transportation. 1027 01:56:21,570 --> 01:56:29,070 I'll share with you the enrollment decline that we are expecting and the assumptions 1028 01:56:29,070 --> 01:56:35,150 assume that the enrollment decline won't get worse, so just no additional enrollment 1029 01:56:35,150 --> 01:56:37,570 decline other than what we've already experienced. 1030 01:56:38,290 --> 01:56:48,950 Right now our nutrition services program through the federal waiver is self-supporting with 1031 01:56:48,950 --> 01:56:52,970 the free grab and go meals because that's funded by the federal government, so the assumptions 1032 01:56:52,970 --> 01:56:59,090 assume that continues. Our extended day program again, I'll provide more details later on 1033 01:56:59,090 --> 01:57:06,970 in the presentation currently is not self-supporting. The revenue losses that I'll share and any 1034 01:57:06,970 --> 01:57:14,430 expenditure savings we're assuming right now, the full school year impact, so if as things change, 1035 01:57:14,430 --> 01:57:20,490 we will need to update those assumptions, but right now we're assuming all losses are for the full 1036 01:57:20,490 --> 01:57:28,250 school year. And then PPE costs, we know how much we've spent to date, we know how much we've 1037 01:57:28,250 --> 01:57:36,310 ordered, and some, we've ordered some equipment for the whole year, but we've, other things were 1038 01:57:36,310 --> 01:57:42,050 ordering as we needed, so we're ordering each month. So the cost for the whole school year is still 1039 01:57:42,050 --> 01:57:51,850 determined. And then the assumption this assumes, we know the WIA has pushed sports back 1040 01:57:51,850 --> 01:57:58,770 to the spring, so hopefully we will be able to continue our athletics for the year but 1041 01:57:58,770 --> 01:58:05,510 the assumptions and what I'm sharing assumes that the whole year, that we won't have 1042 01:58:05,510 --> 01:58:11,510 athletics for the whole year. So again, those things, these numbers can change as we go 1043 01:58:11,510 --> 01:58:12,750 further into the year. 1044 01:58:13,050 --> 01:58:15,110 And Barbara, I just want to comment to the board. 1045 01:58:15,610 --> 01:58:21,270 These were, as Barbara and I were talking about, how do we give an update around the budget? 1046 01:58:21,710 --> 01:58:28,690 We had to develop assumptions that we then could apply to the update and to the information, 1047 01:58:29,050 --> 01:58:32,710 versus us really having an indication around some of these things. 1048 01:58:32,710 --> 01:58:38,850 It just was our mechanism to provide clarity around what the numbers actually are representing. 1049 01:58:38,850 --> 01:58:53,350 Right. So this next slide is just high level summary of kind of the budget outlook that we are not going to receive approximately almost 47 million in revenues due to COVID and remote learning. 1050 01:58:54,010 --> 01:59:00,590 We're not going to spend about 33 and a half million dollars in expenditures due to COVID and remote learning. 1051 01:59:00,590 --> 01:59:07,190 And so this is going to mean that we're going to use an additional $13.4 million in fund 1052 01:59:07,190 --> 01:59:12,910 balance. This is above our budget had already planned. We were already planning on spending 1053 01:59:12,910 --> 01:59:18,790 down fund balance of about $9 million. So this will be an additional $13.4 million in 1054 01:59:18,790 --> 01:59:25,210 fund balance that we will need to spend down. As John mentioned at the beginning, as we 1055 01:59:25,210 --> 01:59:32,110 are in a good financial position. I'll show you on the next slide we had estimated a fun balance 1056 01:59:32,110 --> 01:59:40,070 of around $90 million to start the year. We do estimate that number will be higher than that. 1057 01:59:40,390 --> 01:59:45,490 Most likely we're going to have some committed carryover that's committed for certain purposes, 1058 01:59:45,750 --> 01:59:53,410 such as grants, our CTE program, building budgets, things like that. So we are estimating right now 1059 01:59:53,410 --> 01:59:59,230 that will end the year at a total fund balance of 75 million, and as we go forward. 1060 02:00:00,110 --> 02:00:29,950 Through of the year, we will be updating those numbers. So just a reminder, this was the chart that we shared at the board meeting in June and the four year plan. And so we have an intentional use of fund balance. You can see here we are in the 2020 school year, but we are intentionally spending that fund balance down. And so that will give us time to get us through the next few years as we evaluate 1061 02:00:29,950 --> 02:00:35,750 the long-term impacts of COVID and remote, the impacts that remote learning will have on our 1062 02:00:35,750 --> 02:00:36,110 districts. 1063 02:00:40,390 --> 02:00:44,410 I want to talk about the key changes in enrollment and we have shared preliminary 1064 02:00:45,590 --> 02:00:52,950 final September numbers with the board. Go ahead. Before you move on, I believe, I think that's 1065 02:00:52,950 --> 02:01:01,170 Chris, put his hand in the last slide. That's all right. I just wanted to acknowledge that we're 1066 02:01:01,170 --> 02:01:07,630 spending down the fund balance. This is exactly why one carries forward a fund balance. 1067 02:01:07,810 --> 02:01:14,550 In case you have a crazy year or five and thank you for planning to do so because this 1068 02:01:14,550 --> 02:01:17,010 is why we've carried it forward as well as we might know. 1069 02:01:17,590 --> 02:01:23,410 Yes, thank you. We're very fortunate to have that fund balance that we can help us through 1070 02:01:23,410 --> 02:01:29,050 that situation. So we have shared September and 1071 02:01:29,050 --> 02:01:35,870 enrollment information with a board. We did have our official October 1 count on Thursday, 1072 02:01:36,110 --> 02:01:44,350 October 1st. We are still verifying these numbers. Normally, we grow about 2 to 300 students 1073 02:01:44,350 --> 02:01:50,210 between September and October, which is why you normally use the October count as your 1074 02:01:50,210 --> 02:01:58,670 official count. But our FTE this year actually remained level. In fact, it was slight decrease 1075 02:01:58,670 --> 02:02:00,750 but for the most part, the FTE. 1076 02:02:00,930 --> 02:02:03,830 So we didn't realize, again, between September and October. 1077 02:02:04,830 --> 02:02:06,810 So what these figures represent, 1078 02:02:07,010 --> 02:02:09,310 the first column is last year's enrollment. 1079 02:02:10,050 --> 02:02:15,210 So we enrolled 30,637 students in the 1920 school year. 1080 02:02:15,350 --> 02:02:17,170 And these are average annual FTE. 1081 02:02:17,390 --> 02:02:18,630 This is not headcount. 1082 02:02:19,330 --> 02:02:21,550 So this is what we are funded on. 1083 02:02:22,070 --> 02:02:27,050 We budgeted to grow just about 220 students 1084 02:02:27,050 --> 02:02:34,110 to 30,000 eight fifty-fourths. Our budget was slight a little bit of growth over last year, 1085 02:02:34,270 --> 02:02:39,910 not the significant growth that we've been seeing. So we are actually projecting now 1086 02:02:39,910 --> 02:02:48,510 based on our September and October numbers, an average annual moment of 30,000, 30,000, 40 students. 1087 02:02:48,710 --> 02:02:54,890 So we're projecting a decline right now, about 800 students in K-12 and then slight decline 1088 02:02:54,890 --> 02:03:05,430 in our ALE, so 814 FTE students, and again I'll talk about the impact of revenue loss revenue 1089 02:03:05,430 --> 02:03:12,010 because of that in the next couple slides. Barbara, Chris has a question. Okay. Yeah, quick one 1090 02:03:12,010 --> 02:03:19,890 on this slide. Is the 645 elementary student decreases? Is that mostly just lack of new kindergarteners, 1091 02:03:19,890 --> 02:03:21,890 or is that spread across the whole age range? 1092 02:03:22,230 --> 02:03:26,010 It actually, we projected a lower kindergarten number 1093 02:03:26,590 --> 02:03:31,690 in our budget because of, we saw the registrations 1094 02:03:31,690 --> 02:03:33,490 in kindergarten were slowing down, 1095 02:03:33,730 --> 02:03:36,330 so it is very evenly spread though 1096 02:03:36,330 --> 02:03:38,490 between first and fifth grade. 1097 02:03:39,010 --> 02:03:39,910 Okay, so thank you. 1098 02:03:40,330 --> 02:03:40,430 Yeah, 1099 02:03:43,920 --> 02:03:44,520 Mark? 1100 02:03:45,600 --> 02:03:48,300 I'm sorry, Mark, to interrupt a quick question. 1101 02:03:49,120 --> 02:03:50,840 Is there any way to be able to determine, 1102 02:03:51,060 --> 02:03:52,720 I'm guessing no, but I'll ask a question. 1103 02:03:52,720 --> 02:03:59,920 And how many of these students we've lost due to people going into remote schools if 1104 02:03:59,920 --> 02:04:05,980 you will, or the online schools, are homeschooling if you will, I guess that was a question. 1105 02:04:07,260 --> 02:04:14,300 Yeah, we can look the, because we are, we have, we are a typically growing school district, 1106 02:04:14,380 --> 02:04:19,920 we do have a lot of families moving into areas, so we, many students withdraw because they're 1107 02:04:19,920 --> 02:04:26,620 moving but so we did we had a preliminary look at the numbers of students losing 1108 02:04:26,620 --> 02:04:33,800 but it's hard to kind of narrow down the dates of when they're leaving so that's 1109 02:04:33,800 --> 02:04:37,240 something we will continue to look at to see if we can narrow down kind of the 1110 02:04:37,240 --> 02:04:43,480 reasons why families have left because it also could be. 1111 02:04:43,480 --> 02:04:46,340 It's an important thing, I can go ahead. 1112 02:04:47,080 --> 02:04:49,800 Sorry, it also could be that families aren't moving 1113 02:04:49,800 --> 02:04:52,480 into the area as well due to COVID. 1114 02:04:54,660 --> 02:04:57,780 Well, I, you know, it's kind of hard to find out 1115 02:04:57,780 --> 02:04:59,540 why they're leaving or why they're not, 1116 02:05:00,040 --> 02:05:01,620 why they're leaving the district, 1117 02:05:01,820 --> 02:05:03,600 because no one gives an exit interview, I guess, 1118 02:05:03,700 --> 02:05:08,080 for students, do we have any indication 1119 02:05:08,080 --> 02:05:10,000 as to how this compares to the other districts? 1120 02:05:11,080 --> 02:05:16,420 are we now third compared to Tacoma or Spokane or? 1121 02:05:16,800 --> 02:05:21,700 Yeah, I believe we're still retaining our second largest district. 1122 02:05:22,080 --> 02:05:27,120 Again, once we have the official October counts from all across the state 1123 02:05:27,120 --> 02:05:28,700 will be able to compare those numbers. 1124 02:05:29,220 --> 02:05:32,840 We did have preliminary September comparison statewide 1125 02:05:32,840 --> 02:05:38,640 and we were one of the, we were, I think, the lowest loss in King County. 1126 02:05:38,640 --> 02:05:54,320 So we lost about 0.6% compared to last September, where many of our neighboring districts have lost two to five percent, and if some even more than that. 1127 02:05:54,740 --> 02:05:58,620 So our loss is a lot less than everybody else. 1128 02:05:59,640 --> 02:06:00,720 Thank you. 1129 02:06:00,720 --> 02:06:02,220 Yep, you're welcome. 1130 02:06:03,940 --> 02:06:13,660 Okay, so the next slide, I want to just show that our budget is, even though our enrollment 1131 02:06:13,660 --> 02:06:19,920 is down, we still have a commitment to the staff that we hire, and 86% of our budget 1132 02:06:19,920 --> 02:06:22,220 is committed to staff salaries and benefits. 1133 02:06:22,220 --> 02:06:32,000 So, and only 5% supplies the materials and then 9% on purchase services and very slim 1134 02:06:32,000 --> 02:06:34,360 part of the pie on travel and capital outlay. 1135 02:06:34,600 --> 02:06:43,340 So I just want to make sure, just remind everyone how much of our budget is for people, 1136 02:06:43,600 --> 02:06:46,160 the fabulous people that we have working for us. 1137 02:06:48,850 --> 02:06:55,710 Okay, so these are the slides we're trying to give you rather than throw a lot of data 1138 02:06:55,710 --> 02:06:56,410 at you. 1139 02:06:56,590 --> 02:07:01,810 We're going to give you kind of the high level, simplified overview of the impacts to 1140 02:07:02,490 --> 02:07:03,570 our budget this year. 1141 02:07:03,830 --> 02:07:13,590 So as I mentioned, we've lost 800 basic ed students and about 120 special education students 1142 02:07:14,110 --> 02:07:15,250 are enrollment is down. 1143 02:07:15,250 --> 02:07:22,790 And so, and of that in special ed, about 20 of that relates to preschool and the rest is our K-21 students. 1144 02:07:23,390 --> 02:07:34,730 And so, that really impacts us 808.3 million in basic ed and 1.2 million in special ed revenue decline due to enrollment. 1145 02:07:34,990 --> 02:07:39,970 So, that's a 9.5 million dollar loss due to just enrollment. 1146 02:07:39,970 --> 02:07:40,110 improvement. 1147 02:07:43,480 --> 02:07:50,920 Then our transportation impact, as I mentioned, we are expecting a revenue 1148 02:07:50,920 --> 02:07:59,660 loss and for assumption purposes we are assuming 100% loss in our revenue of $10.2 million. 1149 02:08:01,220 --> 02:08:06,400 We do, we are transporting some special ed students, we will be providing that information 1150 02:08:06,400 --> 02:08:14,760 to the state so we will not know probably until January though how much of an impact, how much revenue 1151 02:08:14,760 --> 02:08:24,380 we will receive because of our minimal transportation right now. But yes, we are losing 10.2 million in 1152 02:08:24,380 --> 02:08:34,440 revenue, but we are also saving some contractual services costs. Our McKinney-Vento, we use a company 1153 02:08:34,440 --> 02:08:41,380 called ALC to transport a lot of our students. One-on-one special ed students were able to do that 1154 02:08:41,380 --> 02:08:49,300 with our bus drivers right now. So we have additional savings. And so we believe the transportation 1155 02:08:49,300 --> 02:08:55,180 impact will be approximately a 5.6 million dollar loss in revenue or net. 1156 02:08:59,620 --> 02:09:01,000 So we also talked about, 1157 02:09:01,640 --> 02:09:06,720 we want to talk about staff impacts. As I mentioned with our enrollment decline, you know, we didn't 1158 02:09:06,720 --> 02:09:13,800 start seeing that enrollment decline really until two weeks before school started in August, 1159 02:09:14,160 --> 02:09:21,300 and so we had already hired most of our staff, and so we committed to those staff. 1160 02:09:22,200 --> 02:09:28,240 We are experiencing, so we will expect to experience savings in, we have some unfilled positions 1161 02:09:28,240 --> 02:09:30,100 this year that we haven't filled. 1162 02:09:30,100 --> 02:09:37,280 We believe we will have less expenditures for substitutes this year due to remote learning. 1163 02:09:38,140 --> 02:09:48,580 We will have, there's contractual services that we aren't sending right now, such as our SRO program is on pause due to remote learning. 1164 02:09:49,320 --> 02:09:53,920 And then we will have additional costs probably for leave impacts. 1165 02:09:53,920 --> 02:10:03,260 the federal government provided an additional, what's called FFCRA leave through December 31st that provides additional leave, 1166 02:10:04,080 --> 02:10:13,900 allows staff to go on leave due to school closures, so all of those impacts we will be, you know, feeling through the rest of the year. 1167 02:10:14,200 --> 02:10:21,220 So, but right now we're estimating $5.2 million in savings due to reduced staffing costs. 1168 02:10:21,220 --> 02:10:22,240 We 1169 02:10:24,830 --> 02:10:30,530 also have local fee programs where we receive revenue, such as our athletic participation 1170 02:10:30,530 --> 02:10:36,930 fees, our facility use fees, we have the community we charge for when the community 1171 02:10:36,930 --> 02:10:43,250 rents our buildings, rents our stadiums, rents our theaters, all of those fees, we are 1172 02:10:43,250 --> 02:10:46,470 assuming we will receive none of those fees this year. 1173 02:10:46,470 --> 02:10:59,150 We charge our preschool families, our typical preschool students who join our special ed students in preschool, pay fees for part of that program. 1174 02:10:59,750 --> 02:11:08,130 Those fees are reduced this year, not because it's not all families are registering for preschool. 1175 02:11:08,130 --> 02:11:25,730 and then we also are buildings collect material, fees, and fines, and those aren't being collected this year, but we also are saving money in not spending funds on replacing lost items and purchasing certain materials. 1176 02:11:25,990 --> 02:11:33,670 So overall, the impact of our local fee programs is the savings of about $700,000. 1177 02:11:33,670 --> 02:11:35,090 So, 1178 02:11:38,430 --> 02:11:43,390 and then our federal program, as we've shared with the word, we received a total of 1179 02:11:43,390 --> 02:11:50,630 about $1.7 million from the Federal Government through the CARES Act, and that is to help 1180 02:11:50,630 --> 02:11:57,510 districts with remote learning expenditures, including PPE, professional development and 1181 02:11:57,510 --> 02:12:05,750 training equipment, and so our district has spent the current cost and spending for remote 1182 02:12:05,750 --> 02:12:13,110 learning, and this includes a mention curriculum training and software. All of our distancing 1183 02:12:13,110 --> 02:12:20,610 signage and markers are disinfectant and cleaning supplies, hand sanitizers, the masks. 1184 02:12:22,410 --> 02:12:32,390 I mentioned our technology. We bought additional servers. We also used – so we also provided 1185 02:12:32,390 --> 02:12:40,870 additional staffing support, so all of those costs are adding up right now to about $3.8 million 1186 02:12:42,130 --> 02:12:50,750 and of which we will receive reimbursement for 1.7 so that we at $2.1 million loss due to the 1187 02:12:50,750 --> 02:12:53,470 cost of remote learning. 1188 02:12:57,270 --> 02:13:00,670 And this doesn't include the additional PPE that we will need to continue 1189 02:13:00,670 --> 02:13:01,930 to buy throughout the year. 1190 02:13:04,260 --> 02:13:09,960 So the last slide I have is nutrition, our self-supporting programs. 1191 02:13:09,960 --> 02:13:16,860 I talked a little bit about both of these under our assumptions. So as I mentioned, nutrition 1192 02:13:16,860 --> 02:13:22,220 services is normally a $10 million program, both on the revenue side and the expenditure side. 1193 02:13:22,640 --> 02:13:30,800 That has been significantly reduced. The Grab and Go meal service right now is being funded through 1194 02:13:30,800 --> 02:13:36,120 the federal waiver. They've committed to funding that through December 31st. So beyond 1195 02:13:36,120 --> 02:13:41,360 that we don't know the long-term impact on that. So right now we're assuming nutrition 1196 02:13:41,360 --> 02:13:48,200 services through the the grab and go through the federal waiver is operating on a self-supporting 1197 02:13:48,200 --> 02:13:54,660 basis. I will mention, you know, we partner, we've been a partner with the DEXO food service 1198 02:13:54,660 --> 02:13:57,000 for over 30 years. 1199 02:13:57,520 --> 02:14:00,080 They, again, they're a separate company. 1200 02:14:00,380 --> 02:14:03,500 They did have to furlough staff 1201 02:14:04,360 --> 02:14:10,480 in order to maintain self-supporting programs. 1202 02:14:10,780 --> 02:14:12,640 So they have staff on furlough 1203 02:14:12,640 --> 02:14:14,480 because we are not serving students 1204 02:14:14,480 --> 02:14:15,840 in our schools right now. 1205 02:14:16,940 --> 02:14:20,520 Our extended day child care program normally operates 1206 02:14:20,520 --> 02:14:24,240 at 12 locations and serves over 700 students 1207 02:14:24,240 --> 02:14:30,760 before and after school. Right now our extended day program is serving 20 students at two sites, 1208 02:14:31,220 --> 02:14:40,300 but we have commitments to maintain the staff, and so right now we're expecting a 2.1 million 1209 02:14:40,300 --> 02:14:42,060 dollar loss in that program. 1210 02:14:46,000 --> 02:14:51,800 So overall, just continuing in the short term, we will continue to 1211 02:14:51,800 --> 02:14:59,720 review unfilled positions as they come out to determine what should be filled, what should remain unfilled. 1212 02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:29,440 Due to remote learning, we will continue to monitor our revenues, expenditures for changes, and then as we begin planning for next year, we're going to need to bring our staffing back in alignment within our enrollment, whether those the enrollment continues to decrease, or we will see, you know, re-eaning enrollment, but we will need to bring our staffing back in alignment, and then we'll need to continue to align 1213 02:15:29,440 --> 02:15:35,580 align our expenditures with our resources so that we do remain physically sound in the long-term. 1214 02:15:38,050 --> 02:15:45,330 So, that concludes my information and presentation. So, any other further questions from the board? 1215 02:15:53,550 --> 02:15:56,630 So, Cassandra, Chris and then Siri? 1216 02:15:58,490 --> 02:16:05,750 So, thank you for the presentation and I have been wondering quite a bit if our numbers have been 1217 02:16:05,750 --> 02:16:11,930 changing since last time you and I discussed the expenditures. It sounds like it has gone up to 2.8 1218 02:16:11,930 --> 02:16:21,690 million as far as COVID related expenditures. So we do have a lot of assumptions which sound 1219 02:16:21,690 --> 02:16:28,350 like smart sound assumptions at this point. When will the board be notified if one of those assumptions 1220 02:16:28,350 --> 02:16:35,450 changes. Will we be, will you give us a heads up, drop an email just to say, okay, this 1221 02:16:35,450 --> 02:16:39,690 part change, are you, is there another report that you're going to say, okay, and quarterly 1222 02:16:39,690 --> 02:16:41,270 imminent update you? 1223 02:16:42,870 --> 02:16:49,050 You know, I would, so those assumptions are all kind of like you said, it's almost like 1224 02:16:49,050 --> 02:16:56,650 programmatic decisions that we had to assume in order to do this. And so, we know, you 1225 02:16:56,650 --> 02:17:08,950 You know, WIA is planning for a return, and so along with that will come probably a message to the board around when athletics and activities will start up. 1226 02:17:09,810 --> 02:17:16,710 As Barbara and team then analyze the budget impact of that, if it's substantial, then we would bring that to the board. 1227 02:17:16,710 --> 02:17:29,810 If it's nominal, then it's probably not something that we would bring to the board initially, but start kind of collecting those pieces and notify the board along the way. 1228 02:17:30,230 --> 02:17:40,850 So yes, the board will be notified of this along the way, but probably if it's a nominal change, it probably won't be elevated to notifying the board. 1229 02:17:41,190 --> 02:17:43,850 But as we start collecting some of these things, yes. 1230 02:17:44,450 --> 02:17:50,210 If I could ask that just the COVID-related expenses, if you could give me a heads-up barber 1231 02:17:50,210 --> 02:17:55,910 when those change so that if I'm talking with legislators, I can give them sort of an 1232 02:17:55,910 --> 02:17:58,270 accurate picture of where we stand. 1233 02:17:58,710 --> 02:17:58,830 Yeah. 1234 02:17:59,210 --> 02:18:04,490 And we've been working on an infographic and we'll get that posted on our website as well 1235 02:18:04,490 --> 02:18:08,950 and we'll share that with the board as an infographics showing all of those expenditures 1236 02:18:08,950 --> 02:18:10,330 and how that breaks down. 1237 02:18:10,330 --> 02:18:16,370 And again, knowing that that's really the impact of what we've had to buy or what we've 1238 02:18:16,370 --> 02:18:20,850 had to spend, there are other impacts such as the revenue losses that we've talked 1239 02:18:20,850 --> 02:18:24,310 about, that that infographic doesn't capture. 1240 02:18:25,030 --> 02:18:32,970 So, but yes, we will share that with you and the other piece is as we normally do during 1241 02:18:32,970 --> 02:18:38,070 a legislative session, once the legislature is back in session, we will keep the board 1242 02:18:38,070 --> 02:18:46,930 informed as we hear about major legislative decisions or bills that might impact us will 1243 02:18:46,930 --> 02:18:50,850 keep you informed of those impacts. Thank you. 1244 02:18:53,320 --> 02:18:54,160 Chris, 1245 02:18:56,750 --> 02:18:59,130 thank you, Barbara, for the heroic efforts 1246 02:18:59,130 --> 02:19:05,590 to develop a budget when the assumptions we know this year has been crazy for violating assumptions 1247 02:19:05,590 --> 02:19:07,310 So, this is a great gun. 1248 02:19:09,530 --> 02:19:14,590 And the other thing I wanted to see is give you feedback that I really liked the way 1249 02:19:14,590 --> 02:19:20,070 you've managed to still be usually the last dozen slides in this deck would have been 1250 02:19:20,070 --> 02:19:21,070 the series of tables. 1251 02:19:22,470 --> 02:19:27,270 Distilling that down to here's the subject and here's the impact is huge. 1252 02:19:27,630 --> 02:19:28,210 Thank you. 1253 02:19:28,450 --> 02:19:29,710 I really appreciate that. 1254 02:19:30,510 --> 02:19:31,650 You're welcome, Chris. 1255 02:19:32,170 --> 02:19:34,610 And guess what the first draft looked like. 1256 02:19:34,610 --> 02:19:40,190 it had a lot of a lot of very complex tables that probably would have been 1257 02:19:40,190 --> 02:19:47,290 diffusing and I finally had a shift and gave you the simplified version so 1258 02:19:47,290 --> 02:19:51,230 well you're definitely was excellent good job well thank you 1259 02:19:53,280 --> 02:19:54,020 in Siri 1260 02:20:01,120 --> 02:20:03,620 okay 1261 02:20:06,370 --> 02:20:07,470 one of 1262 02:20:07,470 --> 02:20:14,770 these days so thank you and I would agree I appreciated the the remedy in which 1263 02:20:14,770 --> 02:20:18,630 to put that information together and do that in a very complex sort of thing that often 1264 02:20:18,630 --> 02:20:21,510 takes more time than all the other information. 1265 02:20:22,130 --> 02:20:27,790 The question that I had was in regards to we, I know transportation and drivers are not 1266 02:20:27,790 --> 02:20:32,590 being utilized in driving buses as much and you had mentioned like with extended day that 1267 02:20:32,590 --> 02:20:37,930 we're keeping all that staff on or only so my question would be what roles are those staff 1268 02:20:37,930 --> 02:20:43,030 now in if it's not in providing the services that they were doing prior? 1269 02:20:43,030 --> 02:20:50,990 Yeah, great. So our bus drivers are the majority of our bus drivers are being utilized to transport 1270 02:20:50,990 --> 02:20:59,990 special ed students with an AM-PM model that actually takes more drivers and so we have 1271 02:21:01,090 --> 02:21:08,750 number of drivers just they're working less hours but more drivers. So some are doing AM routes 1272 02:21:08,750 --> 02:21:15,770 and others are doing PM routes and we have some drivers because many of our drivers are in the 1273 02:21:15,770 --> 02:21:22,330 high risk category so some drivers have voluntarily taken a leave this year. Other drivers, 1274 02:21:22,350 --> 02:21:27,070 we have a small number of drivers that are continuing. If they're not assigned to a route, they're either 1275 02:21:27,070 --> 02:21:35,690 studying. We're using them as subs or they're coming in on a daily basis to clean buses and do work 1276 02:21:35,690 --> 02:21:43,950 on site. We have, we are utilizing other drivers to deliver, do the male deliveries. And so that's 1277 02:21:43,950 --> 02:21:50,130 how our drivers are being used. Our extended day staff are being distributed to our elementary 1278 02:21:50,130 --> 02:21:58,330 schools. And so they're helping out our elementary schools with the needed supports of remote learning 1279 02:21:59,190 --> 02:22:01,570 that our schools are needing right now. 1280 02:22:03,580 --> 02:22:05,920 Okay, thanks. It's great that you were able to come up with 1281 02:22:05,920 --> 02:22:08,900 a very flexible way in which to address these and be able to 1282 02:22:08,900 --> 02:22:09,860 sheet through that. 1283 02:22:10,340 --> 02:22:12,680 The only other piece I was trying to understand that might be easy 1284 02:22:12,680 --> 02:22:15,040 if you actually go back to it was looking at your ending fun 1285 02:22:15,040 --> 02:22:15,440 balance. 1286 02:22:16,600 --> 02:22:19,400 I was just trying to put all the numbers together and I was not doing a 1287 02:22:19,400 --> 02:22:20,140 very good job. 1288 02:22:22,680 --> 02:22:26,020 Yeah, and it's just an estimate right now, so a regional budget. 1289 02:22:27,200 --> 02:22:28,220 So let me go back. 1290 02:22:28,520 --> 02:22:33,120 So this slide, we had originally projected a $90 million 1291 02:22:33,120 --> 02:22:40,360 dollar beginning fund balance for this year and use of fund balance of 10 and so that 1292 02:22:40,360 --> 02:22:48,780 left us with $80 million. We are expecting this number to be higher, around $100 million. 1293 02:22:49,580 --> 02:22:56,960 Our beginning fund balance is expected to be higher. We are expecting to use more fund 1294 02:22:56,960 --> 02:23:05,000 balance, so about $25 million. So that leaves us with this, let me go back one, the $75 million 1295 02:23:05,000 --> 02:23:12,970 that we mentioned here. So we had planned for 80 and it's coming out to be 75 instead. 1296 02:23:13,190 --> 02:23:18,550 Yeah. It's going, it's, we're going to start the year with more, we're going to spend more 1297 02:23:18,550 --> 02:23:25,070 fun balance and in the year with slightly less than we estimated. And so this is also that 1298 02:23:25,070 --> 02:23:29,730 I can serve this budgeting process that we've gone through in order to be able to have that. 1299 02:23:30,410 --> 02:23:32,350 That's correct, so no, that's right, that makes. 1300 02:23:32,850 --> 02:23:44,330 And one other aspect to the fund balance, it's also now accounting for the savings from being fully remote last spring. 1301 02:23:45,310 --> 02:23:54,490 And so with the school closure, that also brought along a number of savings which then increased our fund balance unbeknownst. 1302 02:23:54,490 --> 02:23:57,590 to us at the beginning of last school year. 1303 02:23:59,620 --> 02:24:01,620 Well, I'm assuming any decrease, 1304 02:24:01,780 --> 02:24:03,520 that's the reserve economic impact. 1305 02:24:03,760 --> 02:24:05,160 That's the reason we put that aside 1306 02:24:05,160 --> 02:24:07,620 specifically for anything that was COVID related. 1307 02:24:08,340 --> 02:24:08,560 Correct. 1308 02:24:09,100 --> 02:24:09,280 Okay. 1309 02:24:10,340 --> 02:24:11,080 Thank you. 1310 02:24:11,320 --> 02:24:12,100 You're welcome. 1311 02:24:12,800 --> 02:24:13,040 Eric. 1312 02:24:14,760 --> 02:24:16,840 Yeah, so I want to stay on, 1313 02:24:17,340 --> 02:24:19,420 I've already got back to slide nine. 1314 02:24:20,160 --> 02:24:20,460 Sorry. 1315 02:24:24,480 --> 02:24:27,660 So we have set aside the reserve economic impact 1316 02:24:27,660 --> 02:24:31,220 fund to cover unplanned contingencies. 1317 02:24:31,880 --> 02:24:33,280 I essentially have that right, right? 1318 02:24:34,620 --> 02:24:40,320 And we are, as I look at this, we are retaining that because we still, 1319 02:24:40,420 --> 02:24:43,520 there are a number of assumptions built into this budget. 1320 02:24:43,640 --> 02:24:45,740 We still, we still don't know. 1321 02:24:46,120 --> 02:24:48,540 There's still a lot of risk related to COVID. 1322 02:24:49,080 --> 02:24:55,360 So the plan, as I see this here, is to not spend that piece down currently. 1323 02:24:55,360 --> 02:25:08,740 It's to spend down the other part of the fund balance and retain this other, the reserve economic impact fund for what we set up for, which is unknown contingencies that could resolve. 1324 02:25:09,080 --> 02:25:09,540 Do I have that right? 1325 02:25:10,020 --> 02:25:10,700 Okay, thank you. 1326 02:25:11,060 --> 02:25:22,700 That would be the plan, and as I mentioned, we still don't know, you know, what the next, it's not only this legislative session, you know, and this impacts to this budget year, 1327 02:25:22,700 --> 02:25:30,660 but the legislative session could bring impacts to future budget years that we are not prepared for right now. 1328 02:25:31,020 --> 02:25:34,300 So I think that remains very prudent. 1329 02:25:34,600 --> 02:25:35,100 Okay, thank you. 1330 02:25:35,380 --> 02:25:43,380 And if I remember correctly, Barbara, correct me, but to use the reserve funds, it takes formal board action. 1331 02:25:43,900 --> 02:25:44,380 Correct. 1332 02:25:45,020 --> 02:25:46,160 Yeah, okay. 1333 02:25:49,390 --> 02:25:50,470 Okay, thank you. 1334 02:25:50,470 --> 02:25:54,750 Great. It's any other questions? 1335 02:25:57,290 --> 02:25:59,130 If not, that's our budget update. 1336 02:26:01,770 --> 02:26:06,950 Great. Thank you. It was very digestible. 1337 02:26:07,750 --> 02:26:08,350 Thank you. 1338 02:26:08,510 --> 02:26:09,570 Obviously digestible. 1339 02:26:12,040 --> 02:26:17,860 Okay. That is the last item on our agenda for tonight. 1340 02:26:19,800 --> 02:26:23,220 I don't think I need a motion to adjourn the study session. 1341 02:26:23,220 --> 02:26:26,900 And so we're back on October, 1342 02:26:28,000 --> 02:26:30,780 although I'm having and having computer problems again. 1343 02:26:33,360 --> 02:26:34,340 I can't remember where we're back. 1344 02:26:34,580 --> 02:26:35,660 Thanks to each of the day. 1345 02:26:35,960 --> 02:26:37,180 So whatever that, whatever that works out. 1346 02:26:37,180 --> 02:26:38,680 October 26th. 1347 02:26:38,680 --> 02:26:39,660 Very good. 1348 02:26:41,690 --> 02:26:43,330 Yeah, October 26th. 1349 02:26:43,330 --> 02:26:47,710 October 26th and the waiver was extended until November 9th. 1350 02:26:47,830 --> 02:26:48,490 It was extended. 1351 02:26:49,010 --> 02:26:49,230 Yes. 1352 02:26:51,860 --> 02:26:54,260 So we'll be having the business meeting at 5, 1353 02:26:54,540 --> 02:26:56,080 followed by a study session scheduled for 6. 1354 02:26:56,080 --> 02:26:58,260 But comment say when we finish the business meeting 1355 02:26:59,860 --> 02:27:04,800 Okay, thanks everyone. That's it meeting is adjourned. Thank you. Have a good night everybody