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Welcome, everybody, to the regular council meeting.

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To the regular council meeting for Tuesday, December 17th. We acknowledge we're conducting our business today in the unceded territory of the Silk Okanagan People's.

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As a council, we recognize the importance of doing our best to build respectful relationships to contribute to studying the land and waters within the community and consideration for future generations.

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We need to adopt the agenda, but just before we adopt the agenda, we have a late edition 7.6 is the edition.

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Yes, thank you, Mr. Mayor. Item 7.6 is an OCP by law amendment regarding these sewer capacitor, sewer capacity mapping.

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Very good. So I need adoption of the agenda as amended. Councillor McKenzie, Councillor Irvin, all those in favor? Motion carries. Thank you.

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We need to adopt the regular council meeting minutes of November the 19th, Councillor Irvin, Councillor Patel, all those in favor?

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Motion carries. And we need to adopt the regular council meeting minutes of December the 3rd. Councillor Patel, Councillor McKenzie, all those in favor? Motion carries. Very good. Thank you.

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Okay, announcements, municipal hall will be closed for the holidays, December 25th to January the 1st and reopen again on January the 2nd.

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The Central Service will remain in operation visit the website at lakecountry.bc.ca for any service requests or department contact information.

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The bi-weekly fall yard waste pickups us the green bins and Tuesday December the 31st this year and it'll resume again on March the 3rd.

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So garbage recycling and yard waste will not be collected on Christmas day, which is the Wednesdays. So if it is the Wednesday or New Year's day, they're both Wednesdays.

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As a result, that pickup will move one day ahead so they'll be on Thursday for both of those days.

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So make sure you get your car itself for collection on that Thursday.

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And lastly, thank you to everyone that supported the firefighters donation collection campaign for Lake Country Food Bank.

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They collected over 7,000 pounds of non-perishable food items and over 14,000 dollars in donations. So a little bit of a golf clap for those guys.

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The online donations are still coming in. The RCMP crammed the cruiser too was extremely successful and the generosity of the community is very much appreciated in helping out those people that have less than us is really important.

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Lake Country really shines when it comes to those sort of things and thanks for supporting it.

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Okay, we will move on to delegations. 6.1.

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Thank you Mr. Mayor. Item 6.1 our first delegation this evening is from the Lake Country Garden Club and I believe she Lagoon will be presenting for us.

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There's a button there that has a little person beside it on the microphone. If you push that.

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There we go.

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Okay, so you haven't been there for a while.

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Oh dear, look at it. It's running.

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Okay, so how do I restart that?

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Oh, there we go. Okay, so I just wanted to start at the beginning here so that everything is kind of timed.

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It's really just about letting you know what our club is all about and how we started and we're at today.

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So I'll talk and then you can enjoy and

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from the beginning. There we go. Thank you, Kara.

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Okay, so this is sort of our motto, a community of gardeners sharing learning and teaching the level of gardening with each other and our community.

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Those went really fast.

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This is a little piece of Lake Country established in 2017 and we have little work bees and cleaning it up.

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It's across from Joe's gas.

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And this is our plant sale that we annually do and may.

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Just seeing we can does Mother's Day and there's a lot of organization that goes on.

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I really time these quickly.

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That was worried because there's all these slides.

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So these are sales that we do plant days and there's Harvey anybody know Harvey.

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Number one volunteer in Lake Country.

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I'm really feeling bad because I feel that this is going away too fast.

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Yeah, so how do I go back there?

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I know.

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I thought this was going to be so smooth.

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But I have 10 minutes.

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Should be able to just go.

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And I'm just going to click as we go.

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On the first one.

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There we go.

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There we go.

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I am retired so I'm out of the loop here.

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There we go.

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And how do I go full screen.

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Custom slide, Joe.

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I don't want to run like that.

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So there we are.

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So the next.

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Oh, maybe I'll just go like that.

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There we go.

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These are the activities that we do every year.

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And so are all our members.

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We have 61 members right now.

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And so from plant days which provide plants for the plant sale.

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We were involved in the OEM.

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I prayed this last year and plan on doing it again.

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It was quite fun and exposed our club.

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And we do club tours as well as a community tour of select gardens in our community.

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We do a barbecue and of course we have our meetings.

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Oh, it's there.

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This is little piece of Lake Country and we've established this in 2017 which was for Canada 150.

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And it is maintained by members of our of our club.

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And it has evolved and grown to quite a beautiful showcase.

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And we have there's work be going on and everybody just gets down and dirty.

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You'll land a nice pose.

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She's in the back there.

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So you can see what we do.

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A lot of big smiles.

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It's quite a great club.

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It's not just social.

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It's informative.

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It's educational.

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And we contribute to our community as well.

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So the plant sale is a very big event and we have a lot of people.

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We get all our plants from member gardens and sometimes there's other gardens where there is.

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People want to have us come and dig up their perennials.

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So it's it's a very good fundraiser and all our funds that we do on our fundraisers are given back into our community and that shows that a little bit later.

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This is a little indicator of the organization that it takes so it's nice and smooth.

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And set up we do a little garden shop.

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Some beautiful arrangements.

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These are members of course in our community in our club.

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Working and interacting.

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That's hardy.

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He did do a presentation on that's part of gardening car.

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I don't get that look.

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It was very fun.

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Then then we had to prep for the O.M. a parade.

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So we were trying to gather help.

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So sure how much fun we were going to have.

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We did synchronize wheelbarrowing.

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And it was exhausting.

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This is prepping for the O.M. a parade.

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So you can see the community involvement that we have.

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And getting our wheelbarrows already staging over at Gatskis.

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And it was a long walk because we were digging and sagging and.

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Had a lot of good smiles and interaction with our clubs so.

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And this is just part of it.

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That's LeBurn.

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He just his face just expresses exactly the fun that we have.

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Then once he year what we do is there's certain.

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We select different garden members.

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Their gardens to tour and says so members can we just plan we go for the day.

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And we we went to five different gardens this year and it was really nice because it's sharing.

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And that's what we call it a sharing tour.

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This is nothing more exciting than a picture of a meeting but that that's.

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And then something we also do things like flower arranging.

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Everybody brought stuff.

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So then we also do tours of different gardens and this was clone of city gardens.

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In in June and cut houses.

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I'm not going to repeat that.

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And it just shows once again.

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It's all educational learning.

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Providing everyone with the opportunity to just go with somebody.

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So go she can heritage park.

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And then the pictures say a lot and we went to the Oconogans iriscape association at H2O Gardens.

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And get a lot of good information from them about how we can.

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Do water wise plantain ourselves and incorporate it.

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And then of course the Davidson rural road mural face left.

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We played a little part to that.

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And we also helped with cleaning and scraping all that paint.

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That was that wall.

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It was and weaving and such.

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And there was a few people that are missed in that picture that had left before we took the photo.

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But I'm in there.

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So that's what matters.

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And of course the finished product and that was a partnership with public art as you all know.

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Then candidate A we get involved with candidate A and do some planting for children.

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We do a children's garden center and it's very well received.

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So and this is just a socializing at a barbecue and we just love Harvey and Harvey and his women.

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So he has always.

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A lot of times he's behind the cameras.

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So we like to have him in there.

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We, you know, Armstrong Sunflower Festival.

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We went to in the fall.

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And it's just nice to be able to see what can happen with with other organizations and clubs.

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And then of course, yeah, I'm going to walk about that table right there.

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There was a plaque on there and that is.

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We contributed and we paid for that picnic table.

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I'm pretty sure we paid for the whole things.

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We put a plaque on there.

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And there's many of them around our community that.

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Rather a bench or a table that we've been able to provide from our fundraising efforts.

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And then we did a walk along.

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The is missed there.

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This is our fall cleanup.

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It doesn't just get done once just like everyone's yards.

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And that's just a labor of love or your land as butt was up in the air again.

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So this is what I'm going to read.

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So the Winfield Senior's Garden Club was formed in 1980 with eight initial members.

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This group grew over the years laying the groundwork for the future.

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It changed in their name to Lake Country Garden Club in 1996.

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In 2003, the tri-late garden club was formed as a community group inclusive to all.

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The two clubs amalgamated in 2007 to create a stronger, more vibrant club for all. Currently our membership is at 61 members this past year. Over the years, the club has strive to remain relevant to all members, augment the membership over time, cultivate leadership amongst its members, and be relevant to the community.

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But I think all those pictures kind of show. Our club fundraising efforts from our annual plant sale and buy annual garden tours have allowed us to financially support many local projects and organizations.

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These are a list of, and there's one that are not on here that may be a little bit smaller, but we have listed on here all these different projects that we've contributed to financially.

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And the top picture is the plaque that's on that table in OEMA by the new washrooms.

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So as you can see, we're quite inclusive with different areas that we contribute money to, and we're quite proud of that.

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And that's the end. So see, not quite 10 minutes. And that's it. So I hope you understand what our garden club is all about, and we are always open to new members.

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So just we're going to be having, we just moved, we're going to have our meetings starting at the OCO, the fishing game club. So they have welcomed us, and that's where we're going to have our meetings from from that one. We have six meetings a year.

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Does anybody have any questions for me?

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Great, questions, council.

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Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

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Let's just one question. The list of contributions is really impressive and admirable. I'm just curious, how do you raise money?

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Oh, through our plant sale and the garden tour.

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So those are our main fundraisers. Each member pays an annual fee and that pays for our expenses to have our meetings.

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So our fundraisers doesn't fund that.

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So that's how we do it.

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Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Thank you, Debbie, for the presentation. Thank you all for attending.

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And thank you, some great photos there.

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I'm looking forward to what I have time to do this.

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I'm like, yes, this is a club I want to join.

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If somebody was interested in joining your club,

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how would they find out more about you and the events that you have all?

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Okay. We're in the process right now of building,

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getting in a website built and that will be very helpful.

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We do have Facebook page and that information is there as well,

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but the website will be up and running by spring.

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And one thing that we always like to make sure people understand is you do not have to be an avid gardener to join.

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It is about the love of gardening and being surrounded by other people,

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and opportunity to learn from each other.

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And we also have guest speakers that come in and we use funds for funding on our areas.

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Fantastic.

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You've obviously done a lot of fundraising yourself.

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Has there ever been other than what we're going to come to next on the agenda?

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Has there ever been district funding for the field group on what you do?

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Thank you.

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That's even more impressive to deliver all of that.

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All of everybody's hard work and flowers and flowers.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

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Thank you for the presentation.

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I've been fortunate enough to be able to attend a garden meeting and I saw a lot.

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I learned a lot.

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I learned that I was harboring a very invasive weed.

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So now trying to address that and I've learned how bad rocks are and plastic overlay and all of the things.

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So I appreciate what I learned at that meeting and what you also do for the community.

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My question is on the little piece of heaven.

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So there's a lot more because I was also fortunate enough to be given a tour of that and describe what's happening there.

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But if you just expand on what that is and even though like where I'm sure many people drive by it without noticing what exactly is there because I found it very interesting.

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I'm going to help me on that one.

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Amanda Armstrong.

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She's the part of our club.

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We have a few members back here and the yeah.

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I know that it was developed and started for Canada 150.

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It was a project to celebrate.

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Yeah.

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So little piece of Lake Country is just a small piece of district land that is just behind beside the Tim Horton's

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by the windfield bottle depot tucked sort of facing the highway.

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But in there we have a Xeriscape water wise garden that's available for anybody to visit.

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We have a bug house to show about pollinators that are native to the open organ.

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And we have a bunch of plants that sort of thrive in that in our in our in our hot dry climate.

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It's just small but it's there to showcase what can be done with little irrigation although it does rely on the irrigation.

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And we just yeah we tend it a few times a year and it's there for everybody.

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So thank you.

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Okay.

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Yeah little piece of Lake Country.

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Councilor McKenzie.

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Thank you Mr. Mayor.

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So thank you for all that you do all the volunteer the whole club but I appreciate that.

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Just curious where the demonstration garden is planned for.

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Well that is a project on the books in the works and just starting up.

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That has not been determined yet there's a few places that.

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A wish list of where it could be but that is not determined so.

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That's that's Matt.

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So we're working with the district.

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Work in progress.

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Yeah.

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So I just curious.

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And that's next and I think Matt is going to be talking about that.

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So the whole goal was for you to understand what our club does and who we are and then that is a very big undertaking that.

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The club is all in favor of of doing and getting it off the ground.

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It probably will take a little bit of time but it is quite exciting.

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So we had.

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I was part of the OEMA garden club there that we had.

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But it continually got flooded out.

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So we've never replaced that out there.

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But it's something there that would be nice again in OEMA to get.

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Another little community garden at some point right.

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So that's a community garden similar to what's on.

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But it would like.

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Exactly.

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This is a demonstration garden.

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Okay.

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So it is not a community garden.

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That's not.

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Not a plant.

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No.

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No.

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It's it's about making sort of a showcase for.

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Members.

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Any any of the public that would like to be able to go and.

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Have examples and understanding of the different plants that are.

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That's a special for our our our our climate and also make it a nice gathering area.

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So it's it's not it's not a community garden.

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Okay.

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Okay.

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Sounds good.

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Thank you.

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Appreciate everything you do.

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You're welcome.

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See more questions just I just want to say thanks for the presentation.

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It's a great presentation.

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Thanks to all the club members that come.

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I would encourage everybody to go to the garden cell because I'm a very rookie gardener.

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You can learn a lot from those people that are there.

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So every year we go and the garden tour, the garden tour is pretty incredible.

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So again, for a small club, you guys really do a lot and it's really much appreciate by the community.

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Great.

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Thank you.

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Thanks for the time.

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We're on the 6.2.

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Thank you Mr. Mayor.

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Item 6.2 is the community community engagement grant from the Lake Country Garden Club and walk.

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And I believe that later we'll be presenting this item.

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You will be.

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Thank you Mr. Mayor Council.

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The timing was important.

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Obviously, when you're in the due to the Garden Club, if anybody hasn't met them for part of this.

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So there is two requests for community engagement grants from two community partners that participate a lot.

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Obviously, see saw from the Garden Club, but also walk around Lake Country, which has been dear here before and been established in Lake Country for a very long time as well.

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So just a little background again on the community engagement grant installed in 2021, $15,000.

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One time and then one time again for two years, then Council decided in 2024 to have that on an ongoing basis.

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Some previous projects that sort of align with the principles of the grant.

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You know, the bleachers and access improvement at Benchland Park that worked with pickleball.

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Jackson Park mountain bike trails, it was with Lake Country riders, Mackie Road trail improvements with walk and car designing recreation association as well as coral beach north.

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You know different.

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Like a better word in motives for all these, some is accessibility, some is you know gathering, some is recreation.

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So every group that comes obviously focuses on what their sort of mandate of their club is.

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As Council Mackenzie asked about a demonstration garden, this really is about the concept design, typology, the plants and envisioning what the garden will be.

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We are working with the garden club about where it will be.

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But if you look in in sort of this description of it, it's intended to be in the heart of the community and showcases sustainable garden practices.

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And different ways to do it, water conservation.

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So it really is an education component as well as a gathering place.

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We will be working with the garden club with approval of Council on this funding to develop that concept with.

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Horticulturists and really defining what that needs to be.

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And defining the type of plans and what it is is not location specific we're still working on where that should be.

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Schools are important obviously in terms of educating the youth coming up in terms of gardening and the importance of plant health and how the role that plays in the natural environment.

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So I would expect in the core will call it is as the ideal place we're looking in terms of people being able to walk gather and get there with a vehicle or transportation if needed if available.

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But really just we're at the infancy stage of this. It's a it's a very ambitious project project by the garden club and we at you know the parks department district have supported it.

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To work with them to find what this is and work with you know we have a couple gardeners on staff and obviously horticulturists and arbor so I think the the alignment between the two parties makes a lot of sense.

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The second ask is increasing the accessibility and use of the trail that's just to the north of Peter Greer school I just wanted to put a map here just so everybody's aware of the area I'm talking about.

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So you've got the rail trail just down that runs parallel to log Peter Greer and this is just you know 1215 houses north of this.

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It is a.

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Act of trail that's I was just up there this morning dropping myself off the school and there's multiple kids that come down there go both middle school and the high school.

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Took a couple pictures just to show sort of the condition as we're seeing it now.

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I'll just say overall it's not great.

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We do have a gate there to prevent you know vehicular sort of access to it but it is a fairly steep slope the fence is not great condition.

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We're looking to improve this accessibility wise where that stairs and a bike path or whatever the element is we're still working on on what the sort of outcome is.

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It does flatten off quite a bit of the bottom so the end of the trail is fairly accessible but the top of it needs some work.

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We've been out there a couple of times just ask people that we're going to use it sort of what are your challenges here.

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And really it is about the slope at the top and how do we mitigate that and get the better access down to it.

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So really that's the end of the presentation and just open for questions and recommendation there.

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Thank you.

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Council questions thanks to presentation by the way great.

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Council read.

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Thank you Mr. Mayor and thank you director for the presentation.

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I can't think of two better ways to spend money on these two groups and what they bring to the community.

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Can I just a couple of questions the first one is this is coming in 2024 so am I correct in assuming this is using the 2024 budget and not the 2025 so we can just all again next year.

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Fantastic one thought for the demonstration garden and and it being centrally located I think.

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You know if you look at we look at how late countries changing and some of the developments that are coming to council we're looking at multifamily high rise not high rise.

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That's the one where six story but more dense and less gardening opportunity less opportunity for people to to have a piece of land that they can play with other than window boxes.

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I think providing something that is accessible in a place to meet.

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It's going to be even more vital in our community as it changes in that downtown core area and.

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I just want to tell you you could maybe speak to it maybe a bit early but the any ideas around the accessibility side so both in terms of mobility and also.

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Providing a sensory experience for maybe people who are in a wheelchair so the plants need to be higher or people with site.

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Issues so that centers of significant factors so how is that playing out in the thinking of the center stage.

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So at this stage nothing has been put on the table it is literally the visioning exercise we've met a couple times to talk about.

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The location and type of it going to leave and I know the garden club and many members are here hearing your comments.

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This is a garden club project we're there to support them.

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We're not there to drive what this should be we're there to provide you know access to land if possible and we're there to provide expertise and working with them.

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But I think they're hearing your comments about accessibility and and sort of those principles of what a demonstration garden should be.

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Great. Thanks very much.

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Any other questions.

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It's kind of a it's pretty clear I mean council reads that it while we got to fantastic community organizations here and this kind of community engagement thing where the community comes in and the district comes in and we work together.

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To create a better late country so.

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I need a motion council read you're motioning the staff recommendation council lose your seconding that any further discussion.

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Seeing none all those in favor.

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Thank you not opposed motion care thank you very much.

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That's great.

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Okay we are on to planning and development application 7.1.

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Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Item 7.1 is an OCP and zoning by the amendment for the work family vineyard. This will be presented by Jeremy Frick, director of development approvals.

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Good evening to Mayor and Council. As Rain is said, I'll be here tonight to talk to you about the OCP zoning amendment for a rarer.

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We brought it to you guys last month or so to talk about first reading went through a bunch of the stuff then.

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Bringing forward tonight for second reading to hopefully prepare it to go to public hearing in the new year.

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So this gives us an idea where we're at. We previously brought it November 19th.

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We're looking at it today in conjunction with the financial plan and the waste management plan.

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Next steps will be public hearing and then a future we'll be looking at final building permits and development permits for the site.

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As we've talked before, location is out towards car's landing common at road area currently 14 lots in the consideration for what we're changing out there.

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The area of view of the property and a little bit of what's been going on there.

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Some of the proposed uses on the lot mainly agricultural production, winery production, various food and beverage items.

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Long term convention center, some outdoor amphitheater space.

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To our accommodation and children's camp again some further information not that come.

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Employee housing and related infrastructure work for the district around the around the items.

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This, if we look at the map on the left, I don't have my pointer right now sorry.

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As the OCP portion of the amendment, the main discussion on that point is the properties outline there but still in the brownish color.

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Are in the rural residential zoning still they're looking to change the OCP designation over to agricultural, which is what the properties in green already are.

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And then on the right is just a highlight of the the zoning that we're looking to to alter to get to the A1 and ultimately the CD 13 zone.

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As we move forward with this proposal.

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Again, the area outline in the areas specific areas of the site broken into three main areas for the different uses.

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The wine grape growing the main production area and then the support stuff up in the area see primarily.

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This slide here sort of outlines a couple of the items we went over at last council meeting where we request to look into some items cleaning up the definition of the tourist accommodation.

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And how those rooms function outlining that the tourist accommodation is 25 and 55 sleeping rooms in the different areas of the of the site overall.

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Clean up the wording around events that all parking is to be provided on site was done.

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The considerations as mentioned earlier for today's discussion are in a line with the waste management plans and the financial plans for the district.

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A couple pictures here to show you guys where things are at on site and how things are looking.

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Again, looking south here north at the amphitheater at the bottom.

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And finally that our recommendation is that the official community plan be amended and be considered in conjunction with district financial plan waste management plan.

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The official community plan amendment 03 by law 1249 be read a second time and that zoning amendment by law 1250 be read a second time also and finally that official community plan amendment by law 1249 and zoning amendment 1250 2024 before the public hearing.

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So with that one little housekeeping item there was a brought forward to our attention in the report that it had old notes on applicant and owner so that was cleaned up the lower slide showed MQN and or work or sorry upper slide showed urban options and blue properties and it's been altered to MQN at this time and a work family video so we'll make sure that's all organized as we do the final reports.

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So if there's any questions we can try and answer those for you.

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All right, thank you questions council.

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That's a read.

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Thank you for the presentation.

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I really appreciate the way we're going through this stage by stage running a first reading then a set having a pause and then a second reading I think this is for this level of development I think this is great to do so.

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I've got questions and I've also got some suggestions that council can consider or reject them on on on the actual policy of the zoning by law mainly focused around clarity and consistency and then also looking at the impact that the boundaries of this zone have on the neighboring.

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So you'd mentioned it.

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Director Freck in your in your report there about clarifying the sleeping units versus rooms but we still got three ways of defining things we've got attendees for the children's camp.

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We've got sleeping.

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The units for the employee housing and now we have sleeping rooms for the tourists for the tourist combination but sleeping rooms isn't defined.

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No, and so I just wondered why given we got the definition up there why not use the same definition for the employee housing and the tourist accommodation so it's clear.

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What we're talking about mostly because they're intended sorry through the mayor most of their intended to be different things.

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Typically employee housing functions in a different way and is defined as noted there by law five six one.

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specific to how they function the tourist accommodation and the wine tourist accommodation.

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Isn't intended to function the same often employee housing can have shared rooms or bunk beds and stuff.

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Well you might get multiple two bedroom rooms in the in the winery accommodation in the long run.

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It's.

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It seems important to make sure that they're defined differently because they're not the same function they're not trying to accommodate the same numbers of people necessarily.

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Okay okay see where you're going so 100 sleeping units could be a hundred dormitories or is it a hundred people.

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It's intended to be more in line with a hundred people as my understanding.

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So wouldn't couldn't we use a hundred employees as the definition and then it's the same as the children's camp.

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The way counts would like then yes we could consider and then the 25 sleeping rooms are those 20 of sorry 80 sorry 80 bedrooms or 80.

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People units mostly as defined above could be include multiple sleeping rooms within them they're again not not trying to strictly define it to a one bedroom hotel unit or could be a two bedroom.

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It's trying to keep it open ended to keep the options there so that it's not very restrictive to that tight.

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Again, a council wants we can try and work with the applicant to clarify and make a tighter number on that.

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Yeah I suppose I'm just looking for a definition for the sleeping rooms as opposed to sleeping units but how you've explained it is I'm still a little confused so.

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Maybe that would be a good thing to come back with more an explanation of public hearing I don't need it now but.

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Okay.

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Employee housing so when we look at employee housing is defined in the zoning by law and then you move on to the height and the setbacks so.

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The question is is employee housing a necessary building under the definition of this by law or is it its own unique entity that has its own setback and height requirement.

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Because height has accessory buildings at 4.5 meters it doesn't have a definition of employee housing and the setback has.

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All listed not use is not all uses not necessarily a 10 meters which I'm assuming is employ housing but I'm confused where does the employee housing set.

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Should be included as part of the agricultural buildings because it's support of the agricultural work on the site.

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So it's now 16 meters high is the employee housing you can have a 16 meter high block of employee housing stuff what we're saying here.

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Or maybe connect can I ask for clarity on it as opposed to an answer today could we just get clarity between the height and the setbacks and whether employee housing should be has its own.

435
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,000
Line in that or with which.

436
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:54,000
Of the if it's not which of the other groupings does it fall under absolutely thank you.

437
00:39:54,000 --> 00:40:12,000
Okay, just the we talk about parking does the minimum 200 parking spaces that are in the zone include staff parking and employee parking or is it just the parking for guests attending the.

438
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:18,000
Location I believe we discussed it last time to.

439
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:27,000
The parking is intended to be just for the general use of the site it's not when you when you're getting in the special events and stuff the sites big enough to accommodate much more parking.

440
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:34,000
It was just identified as a as a minimum number knowing that they can accommodate more on site and that is supported by the.

441
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:39,000
By the requirement for all the all the parking to be provided on site for the events and stuff so.

442
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:46,000
If well that number may not cover exactly what's needed for any given day there is room on the site to expand.

443
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:47,000
Okay.

444
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:57,000
The type to septic system that's going in is this is a large scale type to system we've seen it before we had another application with a similar system.

445
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:09,000
Just wondering whether the province recommends that if you have a type to a type three private septic system that there is a septic system's maintenance by law.

446
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:13,000
Do we have one of those as part of the SDS or anything else.

447
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:20,000
I would look to you for support on that.

448
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:27,000
No, no we don't the reason being is that.

449
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:32,000
The wastewater regulations are.

450
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:43,000
The regulations that are provincial and they regulate the use of private septic systems that's done through IHA the district has no jurisdiction when it comes to the regulation of.

451
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:50,000
So during building permits for any inspector obviously.

452
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:58,000
Get those reports from those wastewater professionals to certify that the septic system is compliant and meet all the regulations.

453
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:11,000
And that takes into account any surrounding water use or it's not just looking at the site itself it's the impact on neighboring properties or is that not within the remet of the building permit process.

454
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:18,000
The wastewater professional has to look at the suitability of that system on that site.

455
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:31,000
Which which includes potential impacts in in and around I don't know the exact scope.

456
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:35,000
Okay.

457
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:36,000
Are you back.

458
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:37,000
That's enough.

459
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:38,000
That's enough.

460
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:39,000
Okay.

461
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:48,000
But again it comes under their remet to to design and then for IHA to accept that that design which is certified by a registered professional.

462
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:49,000
Okay.

463
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,000
Thank you.

464
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:58,000
In the zoning by law change we are removing the signage requirements.

465
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:10,000
So we are taking out section 11 of the zoning by law which requires and development to apply comply with the DC site.

466
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:15,000
The LC's signage by law by removing that section.

467
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:24,000
It appears to appear to imply that there is no need or no requirement for them to comply with any signage by law.

468
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:33,000
So how would signage on the property be managed in terms of like a advertising sign or maybe like lighting it or what have you how.

469
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,000
I see I all comment on that.

470
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:43,000
Yeah, and so I'm not sure what the by law you're referencing because in the by law that's proposed this evening at the bottom.

471
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:50,000
It says these sections notwithstanding this these sections below will still apply to the development.

472
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:55,000
So the last paragraphs of the zoning by the proposed zoning by law.

473
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:58,000
Stay section 11 would apply.

474
00:43:58,000 --> 00:44:00,000
Okay, so I've read it the wrong way so it will apply.

475
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:05,000
Yeah, because if you read that it says these sections notwithstanding everything above here all these other sections of.

476
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,000
Okay, I read it.

477
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:10,000
I misread it because section A says these things won't apply.

478
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,000
They do apply.

479
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:13,000
Okay.

480
00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:25,000
So see applies but it's saying that section 7 section 7.2 lake development site lines and hill site development site lines don't do not apply.

481
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:26,000
That's correct.

482
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:34,000
We feel that the property being the size of its location and its future growth patterns nothing in those heights could affect the view.

483
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:40,000
Okay, so there is no lake development in the zoning area so can we take that out.

484
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:45,000
Again for the future provides clarification we thought it wouldn't hurt to be in there.

485
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:51,000
But we haven't made that decision because we don't have any lots that are in the lake front area.

486
00:44:51,000 --> 00:45:00,000
So I would say it's too early to say that it doesn't apply because we're not considering anything that actually is on the lake in the zoning by law.

487
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:05,000
I felt that this was a good thing as it is because there will be another phase of development coming

488
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:10,000
at sometime that council will get to debate, which could have late properties on it. So maintaining

489
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:16,000
the same zone. Anyways, this was just staffed for professional jobs. That it's there and it's easy to

490
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:20,000
transpose onto the next phase, which some of it would apply.

491
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:25,000
I would have a different view to say that when we get to that phase, that's when this sort of thing

492
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,000
should be considered, because they're actually considering.

493
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,000
Can we can we keep our stress, please?

494
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:36,000
Okay. The hillside development sightlines, I completely appreciate why within the property,

495
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:41,000
it's completely up to the applicant, where how they stage their properties and how they assign them.

496
00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:52,000
But this property does butt up onto a number of other areas, which do have, if you go to the bottom of that map,

497
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:59,000
there in that little indent in the corner, there is the private house that is outside of this zone that is right again.

498
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:03,000
Can we get to the question?

499
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,000
Ask a question.

500
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:06,000
I'm just.

501
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:10,000
Ask a question.

502
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,000
I think I know the question.

503
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:21,000
And based on that area there, the allowed uses in that part of the zone would be consistent with all

504
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:26,000
agriculture uses. So an A1 zone.

505
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:31,000
And so I guess your question is, would that house be blocked by a building?

506
00:46:31,000 --> 00:46:36,000
I'm the same with the North because we're allowing tourists to accommodation in that zone,

507
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:40,000
and we're allowing agricultural buildings that's 16 metres in that zone.

508
00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:47,000
So it's not to say it would get blocked, but there's the opportunity to say, and I would see it in other aspects of our zoning by law,

509
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:53,000
where it says, you know, except where the lot line borders on a residential zone.

510
00:46:53,000 --> 00:47:02,000
So that would be my only suggestion that we protect our those properties, because I completely get why we don't have it inside,

511
00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:03,000
but those properties could have.

512
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:04,000
Excuse me, Councillor Reed.

513
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:06,000
Yes, this point is for questions.

514
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:10,000
So when do we get to the next question?

515
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,000
Well, we've made a motion forward, then we can discuss.

516
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:14,000
Okay.

517
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:15,000
As you all know.

518
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:33,000
So on that same light, could maybe staff explain why we don't have any landscaping boundaries,

519
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:37,000
where the zone butts up against a residential property.

520
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:43,000
So for example, when the employee housing is along the fence line at the moment,

521
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:47,000
our zoning by law change has no buffers.

522
00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:49,000
So I just wondered what the thinking was.

523
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:53,000
I can understand it internally, but again, externally on the edges.

524
00:47:53,000 --> 00:47:58,000
I just wondered why we wouldn't have an landscaping buffer.

525
00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:05,000
I would be curious to compare this to an agricultural zone, where they're allowed all these uses,

526
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:12,000
and whether or not we would require buffering from an agricultural property rather than a CD zone.

527
00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:16,000
I don't think we require it in the current zoning by law for agricultural.

528
00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,000
I'll confirm, but I think that's what staff was thinking.

529
00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:24,000
They keep the same regulations as they would for agriculture, but we don't have landscaping.

530
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,000
And it's actually the opposite.

531
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:30,000
All other uses are landscaped and buffered against agriculture.

532
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,000
I appreciate that.

533
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:37,000
I would just say that we seem to be switching between agricultural and commercial,

534
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,000
depending on which we're talking about.

535
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:43,000
Certainly, employee housing and a children's camp.

536
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:47,000
That is of a hundred and eighty people.

537
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:52,000
That is a little bit more than a field of.

538
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,000
We can provide clarification to them.

539
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:59,000
Okay, so I'm going to leave my questions there and come back when we get into the discussion portion

540
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,000
to talk about the things that I think should be.

541
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:06,000
Could be an amendment for council to consider.

542
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,000
I was quick. Thank you.

543
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,000
Thank you.

544
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:20,000
So I just have a couple of questions to this is a big elephant for me and I'm taking little bites.

545
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:25,000
So my question is, I've got just a couple here and I'll get to it.

546
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:30,000
The maximum stay for the 240 days for the winery tourists to accommodation.

547
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:35,000
So wondering why that's so long and shouldn't it be amended to like 30 days?

548
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:38,000
If it's a tourist.

549
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:41,000
It's more in line with what hotels are allowed to have.

550
00:49:41,000 --> 00:49:45,000
So it's it was just a number to start with again with it going to public hearing.

551
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:51,000
We're aware that some of these items could change based on the wishes of council or what the public thinks is reasonable for the area.

552
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:52,000
Okay.

553
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,000
That's a long time that's seven months.

554
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,000
I think so long time.

555
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,000
And then the children's camp.

556
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,000
So in that paragraph.

557
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:08,000
Camp facilities may be used to provide meeting recreation or social facilities for a private association or group.

558
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:09,000
So that would be.

559
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:19,000
Is this kids camp just the kids camp or would be like team building for businesses and open to all of that.

560
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:20,000
My understanding.

561
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:24,000
If not intended for that at this time, but didn't want to be restricted.

562
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:29,000
You didn't want to be restrictive to say only specifically a kids camp in that area.

563
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:30,000
Okay.

564
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,000
Trying to leave options open for what the future uses may be on the site.

565
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:34,000
Okay.

566
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:35,000
And then I noticed.

567
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,000
There's some retail liquor stores.

568
00:50:37,000 --> 00:50:42,000
So is that just for wine or will the be like hard spirits there as well.

569
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:48,000
For sale retail typically when labeled liquor would include all but at this time.

570
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:49,000
It's not existing yet.

571
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,000
So we'd have to look at that further.

572
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:52,000
Okay.

573
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:58,000
And then I guess my last one would be in relation to the gravel pit.

574
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:02,000
So is the gravel pit going to stay active.

575
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:07,000
Forever is there a plan to shut that off at some point.

576
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,000
So just to clarify.

577
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:14,000
The gravel pit is in a natural resource extraction use.

578
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:20,000
So they can't take the material from there and take it off site and use it and sell it.

579
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:21,000
Okay.

580
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:25,000
So that's that's not allowed use on most properties in agricultural zones.

581
00:51:25,000 --> 00:51:30,000
You're allowed to take soils, gravels and move them anywhere around on your property anyways.

582
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:37,000
So then what they're saying here is that's specifically identified as being allowed.

583
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:40,000
I think the is what is the long term.

584
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:44,000
So I think as long as they're developing their site they would continue to do that.

585
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:48,000
Much like if the place was have the property was fully treated.

586
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:49,000
They could cut down their trees.

587
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:50,000
They could mill them on site.

588
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:54,000
They could use that et cetera et cetera but they couldn't sell it.

589
00:51:54,000 --> 00:52:00,000
So gravel as long as it's not sold off site is not considered natural resource extraction.

590
00:52:00,000 --> 00:52:04,000
So that's not a gravel pit isn't a specific use.

591
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:06,000
Okay.

592
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:12,000
Like they need a mining permit but being able to move the gravels around on their properties for their benefits.

593
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:13,000
Like soils.

594
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:14,000
It's a farm use.

595
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:15,000
Okay.

596
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:16,000
I'm just talking about all this.

597
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:21,000
Traffic for all the residences there with the people and all the gravel tracks.

598
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:22,000
Okay.

599
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,000
I think that's all.

600
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:25,000
Thank you.

601
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,000
Councillor McKenzie.

602
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:29,000
Thank you.

603
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:30,000
Thank you.

604
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:32,000
Thank you Mr. Mayor.

605
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:35,000
Thanks for that presentation.

606
00:52:35,000 --> 00:52:42,000
So a couple of things just on just with as far as the gravel pit goes.

607
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:48,000
I did just have a discussion on that not very long ago asking that specific question.

608
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:54,000
And obviously it's exactly like our CAO says it's as long as you're developing it.

609
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:56,000
They're going to be using that.

610
00:52:56,000 --> 00:53:01,000
So as things get developed and you're going to see the use of that go down.

611
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:05,000
So eventually at some point it's going to be really quiet on the old traffic.

612
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:12,000
So that's where that's going to end up.

613
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:15,000
As far as this goes tonight.

614
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:24,000
I think it's important that we all know that this is getting to where we forward it to a public hearing.

615
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:27,000
So that we can hear from the public and have those.

616
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:30,000
So we have lots of opportunity for changes still.

617
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:31,000
And I think it's.

618
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:32,000
Sorry Councillor McKenzie.

619
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:33,000
Can we have a question?

620
00:53:33,000 --> 00:53:34,000
Well that's.

621
00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:35,000
It all applies to everybody's soul.

622
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:36,000
Yes.

623
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,000
If you want to have a discussion part, you can.

624
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:42,000
I just want to clarify that that this is to get to that.

625
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:50,000
So I just want to make sure that was that was acknowledged.

626
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,000
Councillor Brett.

627
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:53,000
Can you see.

628
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:54,000
Do you want to comment on that?

629
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:55,000
Yeah.

630
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:59,000
I was just going to say the information we collect today will help staff prepare for a public hearing.

631
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:01,000
If Council vote says to go to a public hearing.

632
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,000
Questions brought up today.

633
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:07,000
We can make sure that the clarification is part of that presentation.

634
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:10,000
And that's the intent of so if questions are raised.

635
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,000
We'll see that it gets brought forward.

636
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:15,000
If Council wishes just to go to a public hearing next.

637
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:18,000
Councillor Brett.

638
00:54:18,000 --> 00:54:20,000
Thank you Mr. Mayor.

639
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,000
My question is more around.

640
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:23,000
My.

641
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:26,000
Prouding clarity to myself as Councillor Urban pointed out.

642
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:27,000
This is a big project.

643
00:54:27,000 --> 00:54:31,000
I appreciate it's been going on far before me and it's just trying to catch up.

644
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:32,000
I suppose.

645
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:36,000
So some of the amendments and the things that we're talking about here.

646
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:40,000
I know it tourist accommodation comes up a lot for other things.

647
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:43,000
And it sort of it came up better the last city meeting.

648
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:47,000
The things that have happened on this property.

649
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:50,000
Is it widely applicable to all the zoning?

650
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:55,000
Or is it related to this area in particular?

651
00:54:55,000 --> 00:55:00,000
For the most part, because this is a CDs only would be specific to this zone.

652
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:04,000
So well, the agricultural land can have some tourist accommodation.

653
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,000
It wouldn't be exactly the same rules.

654
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:10,000
Okay, thank you.

655
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:11,000
All righty.

656
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:14,000
Any other questions?

657
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,000
Seeing we got no more questions.

658
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,000
Can we get a motion on the floor, please?

659
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:21,000
Councillor Patel, you are motioning.

660
00:55:21,000 --> 00:55:24,000
All right.

661
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:25,000
Staff recommendation.

662
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:26,000
I am.

663
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:27,000
Thank you.

664
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:28,000
Thank you.

665
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:29,000
Thank you.

666
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:32,000
Councillor McKenzie, seconding that motion.

667
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:33,000
Okay.

668
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,000
Now that we have the motion on the floor.

669
00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,000
Discussion.

670
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:39,000
Councillor Reed.

671
00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,000
So thank you.

672
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:42,000
Thanks to the motion.

673
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:47,000
I will not be supporting this motion as it's currently stands.

674
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:50,000
Because it doesn't take into account.

675
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,000
Unless we can amend it.

676
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:55,000
Maybe our corporate officers as it can answer.

677
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:57,000
If there's a capacity to amend it.

678
00:55:57,000 --> 00:56:00,000
Now it's been put forward in seconded.

679
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:10,000
Because we can't add any comments that we would like to serve to consider.

680
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:13,000
Do we have to defeat this and have another motion?

681
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:20,000
Which says, and could staff bring that consideration or thoughts on the following aspects?

682
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:24,000
Through the chair, just one moment while I pop our council procedures by

683
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:25,000
law.

684
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:28,000
There is a motion on the floor.

685
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:31,000
So that would have to be voted on and defeated.

686
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:39,000
And then you would need further motion to make an amendment to the by law.

687
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:40,000
And read it a second time.

688
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:41,000
It has amended.

689
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:42,000
Right.

690
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:43,000
Okay.

691
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:47,000
So it would have to present those resolutions for move them second them.

692
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:50,000
Just make it a little more complicated.

693
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:51,000
Okay.

694
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:53,000
Okay.

695
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:58,000
So what I would like to discuss.

696
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,000
I don't know what's.

697
00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:05,000
Is a couple of considerations setbacks.

698
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:07,000
There is no setbacks.

699
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:13,000
The agricultural building setback is lower than it is for the agricultural zone.

700
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:19,000
So the agricultural zone has an agricultural building setback of 13 meters I believe.

701
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:24,000
And this is less in this zone.

702
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:27,000
So we've spoken about agriculture a number of times.

703
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:29,000
And agricultural use.

704
00:57:29,000 --> 00:57:33,000
But here we have a 10 meter setback from our out of boundaries.

705
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:38,000
And these A1 zone has a 30 meter setback for the larger size buildings.

706
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,000
So I'd like to consider that.

707
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:46,000
I'd also like to consider that the gravel extraction has a boundary on it.

708
00:57:46,000 --> 00:57:52,000
So that it doesn't go right up to the property boundaries of the adjoining properties.

709
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,000
The landscaping.

710
00:57:54,000 --> 00:58:02,000
I would like to consider that when the exterior boundary of a CD13 zone borders on a residential zone.

711
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:06,000
In which case the minimum land state buffer is level three.

712
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,000
I picked but it could be another one.

713
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:13,000
But but basically when it goes up against the side of somebody's property that there is a requirement.

714
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:17,000
I think it's a very important state buffering in and be it because there's.

715
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:20,000
Employee housing, children's camp.

716
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,000
tourist accommodation or.

717
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:23,000
Spreader.

718
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:24,000
Um.

719
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:32,000
Parking there was an amendment to that on 19.12.6 which added parking for all events shall be provided on site.

720
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:39,000
Um, I just wonder whether we could take out the words all events and then it would cover any parking on the site.

721
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:43,000
It comes from a contract or an employee, a guest.

722
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:47,000
Um, who's attending the accommodation or the event.

723
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:51,000
Um, as I said, um, I don't feel the late.

724
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:52,000
Development.

725
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:56,000
Uh, so you clarify that for me that that is, um, that should come out.

726
00:58:56,000 --> 00:59:00,000
I think that should come out because we don't have any late front development here.

727
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:05,000
And it should be considered as part of an application to add to this zone when it comes along.

728
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,000
I said, hillside development site lines.

729
00:59:07,000 --> 00:59:10,000
Um, absolutely fine with it not being included within the zone.

730
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:14,000
But when it reaches the boundary of a buts a residential property.

731
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:18,000
Um, then this site, hillside development site lines would apply.

732
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:21,000
Um, as regarding the motion.

733
00:59:21,000 --> 00:59:27,000
If we look down through the rest of this agenda, there's some really great motions around.

734
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:30,000
Um, confidence to secure access.

735
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:34,000
Be it access to the right of way, be it access to servicing.

736
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:38,000
Um, and in this one, um, we'd mentioned it in the first report.

737
00:59:38,000 --> 00:59:42,000
There is an access, a future trail crossing area C.

738
00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:46,000
Um, and we have no covenant to secure that.

739
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:49,000
It's just a nice, we'd love it.

740
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:50,000
It's in our OCP.

741
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:55,000
Our OCP commits us to providing where future trails map exists.

742
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:59,000
We should be securing that future trail when the property is redeveloped.

743
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,000
So I would.

744
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:13,000
We suggest the wording, the echoes, the wording that we see later on in this agenda, that prior to adoption, the district secures a trail dedication through area C to crown lands.

745
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:26,000
And I think we've spoken about the septic, but I would also like to start to consider options for access to area C to mitigate the impact on surrounding residential properties.

746
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:29,000
This is about to become a higher traffic area.

747
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:38,000
Already you've got a gravel pit that's moving large quantities of dirt between two properties, which goes alongside three residential houses.

748
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:43,000
It's now going to have up to 180 people transitioning this.

749
01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:54,000
Hundreds of the employees and 80 may be children, but as the councillor Irvine had noted and staff have confirmed, they could be work groups, they could be conferences.

750
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:58,000
And it's on a gravel track that goes straight past people's houses.

751
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:12,000
So there is other absence points for that. And I would just wonder if staff would be able to consider an alternative access that goes straight from this property on to parkly road without going by the neighbors properties.

752
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:17,000
Because this is going to be a really high intensity area.

753
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:23,000
And I don't I think there are other options that may be more neighborhood friendly.

754
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:30,000
So those are my thoughts.

755
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:41,000
I'd like to say I agree with quite a few of the points that councillor Irvine made as a big property.

756
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:47,000
The gravel pit technically could go on for years while he developed more and more, which is great.

757
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:50,000
I'm in favor of the development.

758
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:52,000
And I think most of the neighbors are.

759
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:59,000
However, I think it's on to council to also protect the neighbors that are there that are settled there.

760
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:02,000
That bought their properties according to the OCP.

761
01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:05,000
They're going to be directly affected by this.

762
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:11,000
If we can make it work for them and make it work for our works, work for late country and everybody that visits it.

763
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:19,000
But I think it could be a great mistake if we don't stop and think about what we can do is council to make sure.

764
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:23,000
That it works for everybody.

765
01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:27,000
Little tweaks not a major rewrite.

766
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:32,000
That's just my two cents. Thank you.

767
01:02:32,000 --> 01:02:39,000
So I also should have included councillor Irvine's 30 day comment, which was an option to consider.

768
01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:46,000
Bring back the council as a a lower number than the 240.

769
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:49,000
Thank you Mr. Mayor.

770
01:02:49,000 --> 01:02:51,000
So listening to the comments.

771
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:54,000
I understand it's hard to keep them all on track.

772
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:58,000
I think last time we broke the motor a little bit and voted on them separately.

773
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:03,000
But I think that the parking taking out the events part makes sense.

774
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,000
Any of the parking should remain on site.

775
01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:08,000
I think I wouldn't see why that wouldn't make sense.

776
01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:12,000
The late development I think I heard from staff is that they considered it.

777
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:18,000
But knowing that there's going to be a next step to this that rather than having to reconsider it again to leave it in here.

778
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:20,000
I think that that made good sense.

779
01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:23,000
I'm not sure on the hillside portion.

780
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:30,000
And then again, I don't understand the full scope of the mitigation on the high traffic areas.

781
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:34,000
Other than, you know, it is their land and how they're developing.

782
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:39,000
My hopes is that there's there's going to be this good neighbor relationship and that will move forward.

783
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:42,000
I think that that's the only way to work together.

784
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:49,000
And then with respect to the agriculture step back, again, I heard from staff that that was explained.

785
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:52,000
So I'm understanding that that's been considered again.

786
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:55,000
We're going to be public hearing and we're going to talk about it some more.

787
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:59,000
So it's something that we can hear more from the public on.

788
01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:08,000
And then with respect to the gravel extraction boundary layer, that's something that I don't probably something we should wait for public hearing to consider.

789
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:14,000
Perhaps that's something that staff can bring back to some further clarification on.

790
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:18,000
But that that that that when I'm.

791
01:04:18,000 --> 01:04:22,000
I'm comfortable with how staff have presented it for now.

792
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:28,000
With respect to landscape buffers and in favor of as many buffering as we can do to reduce the impacts on either.

793
01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:32,000
Either the agriculture business or the surrounding areas.

794
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:40,000
So I'm hopeful that you know, that comes out also in the public hearing and that we can maybe make some adjustments with the landowner for that because.

795
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:47,000
Again, it makes good sense to be good neighbors through some of the buffering, but in terms of an amendment right now, I don't think that makes sense.

796
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:50,000
So that that's just my two cents to the rest of council.

797
01:04:50,000 --> 01:04:53,000
I think that I got all of them, but it was.

798
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:58,000
It's hard to write them all down.

799
01:04:58,000 --> 01:05:00,000
Yes, sir.

800
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:04,000
Sir, I just need to clarify so.

801
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:09,000
When we go to so let's say we don't make an amendment now, we take it to public.

802
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:13,000
Open house and take those comments, then we can amend it.

803
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:22,000
Then in one complete shot rather than amend now and then later, because then it's going to just get really.

804
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:25,000
Can take the public comments.

805
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:26,000
Yeah.

806
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:27,000
That will be third reading.

807
01:05:27,000 --> 01:05:28,000
Okay.

808
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:32,000
After that will be third reading probably in the public comment at the same time, but it won't be a adoption.

809
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:38,000
So adoption is when we can change it or we can change it almost immediately after the public hearing.

810
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:40,000
I'm sure it's it's a big.

811
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:45,000
I mean, the 30 meter set back to cultural land that's not a requirement anywhere.

812
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:47,000
It's not a requirement.

813
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:49,000
It's a recommendation by the L.C.

814
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:52,000
That's absolutely is no worse.

815
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:53,000
It's.

816
01:05:53,000 --> 01:06:01,000
Through the merit typically comes into effect when you have cattle and those type of buildings that that produce meat and stuff.

817
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:03,000
It's not usually associated with normal agriculture.

818
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:04,000
Yeah.

819
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:05,000
But it's not a requirement.

820
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:07,000
It is a recommendation.

821
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:09,000
I just I just wanted to clarify that.

822
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:10,000
Yeah.

823
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:14,000
I know that because I'm also from making changes, just doesn't have to be.

824
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:18,000
Today can be at the after the open house is fine too.

825
01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:19,000
Thank you.

826
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:20,000
Thank you.

827
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:21,000
See how's got to come in.

828
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:22,000
Yeah.

829
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:23,000
So changes.

830
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:29,000
There are some minor changes you allowed to make at the time of consideration of third reading.

831
01:06:29,000 --> 01:06:34,000
Significant changes can't be made unless you go back to a public hearing.

832
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:37,000
So clearing up some edits, getting some clarification.

833
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:44,000
Can be done as part of third reading as long as you're not changing the use density or intent of the by-live way.

834
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:49,000
So there are some minor things that can be done at third reading.

835
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:57,000
But it just depends whether or not council wants to present this by-law as it is to the public for their input.

836
01:06:57,000 --> 01:07:02,000
Or they want to amend it, send it to the public.

837
01:07:02,000 --> 01:07:03,000
Which we can do now.

838
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:04,000
So we can we can do it now.

839
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:06,000
Make these amendments now.

840
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:14,000
Send it to the public and say this is what we would like you to consider and provide comment on rather than the one that's in front of you.

841
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:18,000
So it's it's it's a bit of a role that ice.

842
01:07:18,000 --> 01:07:23,000
So right now council has said we've staff said here's a by-law.

843
01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:25,000
We like to council to consider presented the public.

844
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:31,000
If there are some changes in there that council feel that are important enough,

845
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:36,000
then we should amend it now and do second reading as amended and present that by-law to the public.

846
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:42,000
Because between public hearing close and consideration of third,

847
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:50,000
there's only certain things we can add in there of significant change to put conditions on.

848
01:07:50,000 --> 01:07:56,000
We like this to be done prior to adoption those kinds of things.

849
01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:58,000
That's a bread.

850
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:03,000
Thank you and just to follow that the question that I would have then.

851
01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:10,000
Just is that because the one part I agreed with was the parking is that considered minor or it seems minor to me,

852
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:16,000
but parking during events versus.

853
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:20,000
Thank you to the chair. Yes, that would be considered a minor amendment.

854
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:22,000
Okay. Thank you.

855
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:29,000
So I I would question them for council agreed with regards to the agriculture set back.

856
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:32,000
I'm I'm not understanding the the need for it.

857
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:41,000
You know just having been to the area and where in comparison to areas with cows or a lot of heavy spray.

858
01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:51,000
I don't I'm not sure what they need for the extra buffer that you're requesting.

859
01:08:52,000 --> 01:09:01,000
Thank you for the question council. I I suppose I'm coming at it from the point of view that this is going to have a hundred and eighty this area.

860
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:08,000
See is going to have a hundred and eighty units on it with no buffer.

861
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:13,000
At the moment we don't know whether they've eighty sixteen meters high.

862
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:16,000
Some of them are going to be ten meters high.

863
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:26,000
But that is that is I just think from a neighbor's perspective and put myself in their shoes that that could go straight up to the lot line.

864
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:36,000
You can have a sixteen meter tall unit or ten meter tall unit because it's in here with a ten or six meter buffer.

865
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:42,000
And no nothing else that's just it and I don't think that's fair to the neighbors.

866
01:09:42,000 --> 01:09:48,000
I think by having some sort of requirement for landscaping buffers just where it abouts a residential problem.

867
01:09:48,000 --> 01:09:56,000
Doesn't matter about the clown crown land where a lot of this is facing but where it faces residential property in the other A or C or B.

868
01:09:56,000 --> 01:10:01,000
I just feel we should give some buffering and make it a little more community friendly.

869
01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:11,000
I wouldn't like a bunch of sea cans suddenly turning up on my doorstep six meter set back or not and have nothing in between to hide the impact of that.

870
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:19,000
So that's where I'm coming from and again I just would like staff to consider what the options could be.

871
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:26,000
And and come back on it.

872
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:37,000
And we have a minimum buffer of in agricultural zones of 15 meters for agritors and accommodation and I just feel that a landscape and buffer would help with that so.

873
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:41,000
Yeah, that's where I'm coming from on that front.

874
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:48,000
So we're talking about the set back and then the buffer so you're talking about.

875
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:58,000
Keeping a and I'm going to need some help on the buffer that we have what's currently what what is currently in this by law is.

876
01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:03,000
This I need to.

877
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:13,000
Minimum landscape buffer is level one so that's the landscape buffer and then there's the set back questions these are two different things.

878
01:11:13,000 --> 01:11:19,000
Because it won't be something built right on the property line we don't do that there's there's going to be a set back from the property line.

879
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:31,000
And then there's also going to but there isn't a landscape buffer so we there is a set back from the property number there isn't a buffer a landscape buffer okay it does are two different things for me so.

880
01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:40,000
Is that right I'd have to look at in the hair a little bit more detail we have noted a level two landscape buffer for exterior boundaries of the site so.

881
01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:52,000
I'll talk on my head I don't have exactly what that is right and exterior boundaries being neighboring would be anything outside of the idea this.

882
01:11:52,000 --> 01:11:56,000
I mean that that sounds reasonable to me I don't I don't think it's going to be right on the property line.

883
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:58,000
These developments so.

884
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:05,000
There is is set back as in all neighborhoods and then there is potential for the landscape buffers.

885
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:08,000
But I don't may may be missing something.

886
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:29,000
Thank you Mr Mayor I would just point out the under section 13 point so 19 12 5 the landscape level two buffer only applies to parking and loading areas or driveways it does not apply to buildings and so this is where I think.

887
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:32,000
We need larger screening because.

888
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:41,000
Parking and loading is flat so I can understand why we have I know appreciate the landscape up for level two but buildings are higher and when we look at.

889
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:49,000
Our residential properties and we're building large areas we asked for landscape buffers to mitigate the impact on the neighborhood.

890
01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:53,000
So I feel that at this with a hundred and eighty sleeping beds.

891
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:56,000
Warren staff same level of care and attention.

892
01:12:57,000 --> 01:13:02,000
Okay I have a question for either the corporate of the CEO.

893
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:08,000
Are we considering that a landscape buffer is a minor or major amendment.

894
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:13,000
Considering that this is an landscape buffer for the entire property.

895
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:20,000
Through the chair I would like to just clarify that the landscaping.

896
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:27,000
Buffer the minimum landscaping required for access driveways is level two is regulated.

897
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:31,000
For the exterior boundary of the site.

898
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:41,000
So that not be the entire boundary of the site.

899
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:48,000
That would be my understanding as start director had mentioned that landscaping was.

900
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:51,000
Noted for the the exterior boundary.

901
01:13:51,000 --> 01:13:54,000
Surely that's a question for staff level two.

902
01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:57,000
So.

903
01:13:57,000 --> 01:14:06,000
Regardless of that landscaping as a minor amendment.

904
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:13,000
Hopefully we should make that change to the by-law this evening if council wish to do that.

905
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:46,000
Thank you.

906
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:17,000
If I may, so the way the bylaw reads is a minimal landscape buffer for the CD zone is level 1.

907
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:27,000
That's everywhere. All the interfaces, except where there's parking and driveways, then it's level 2.

908
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:39,000
But it's not required to put landscaping and parking, level 2 buffer when it's adjacent to a dedicated road.

909
01:15:39,000 --> 01:15:51,000
Or the exterior boundary of the site. So if they're an exterior boundary and they have parking and loading there, you do not to put need to put a landscape buffer.

910
01:15:51,000 --> 01:16:01,000
Otherwise, landscape buffers level 1 are required wherever there's an interface between the use and the rest of the area.

911
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:09,000
So there's a residential property adjacent, which in this case there'd be a rural parcel large rural RR2.

912
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:18,000
It'd be my interpretation that level 1 would be required between the properties for any uses there.

913
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:28,000
One would argue though, if there's vines planted there, you do not need a landscape buffer, because that by itself.

914
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:51,000
I think the ALC is intended, or agriculture is intended a lot more growing. So the way I read that is level 1 is everywhere, except level 2 is required for parking and load and driveways, but not when the parkings and driveways are merely adjacent to a dedicated road or an exterior boundary of the site.

915
01:16:51,000 --> 01:17:01,000
And I think all the dedicated parking we have right now that's been proposed is mostly interior on parcel B.

916
01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:02,000
I think it's area B.

917
01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:04,000
Councillor McKenzie?

918
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:17,000
Thank you, Mr. Mayor. So if we change that number, does this affect the minimum setback requirements as well, that doesn't have anything to do with it then?

919
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:22,000
You can get some of those will be sort of minimum setback requirements is based on the use.

920
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:34,000
Six meters is the minimum for an accessory building, 10 meters for all agricultural buildings, 15 for winery, tourists accommodations, and 10 meters for all other uses.

921
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:43,000
So the minimum requirement anywhere is basically a 20 foot buffer or a 20 foot setback and then a level 1 buffer landscape.

922
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:50,000
Okay, I just want to make sure that doesn't adjust that as well. Thank you.

923
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:54,000
Anybody else?

924
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:56,000
Councillor Lewis.

925
01:17:56,000 --> 01:18:11,000
Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I'm just wondering is there a site plan for this for the build out of the entire site where all the buildings are going kind of the future plan for the whole thing?

926
01:18:12,000 --> 01:18:17,000
So right now, because we're dealing with land use, we don't bring a lot of the development part of it here.

927
01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:33,000
I mean, if we're talking about specifics about that corner is something a building going to go six meters from that building, it would be nice to know is that even contemplated or is that all winery, like grapes.

928
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:41,000
I mean, a site plan just might be helpful if we're talking about details about specific locations.

929
01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:46,000
Yeah, in terms of some of these other things, gravel extraction and all those things.

930
01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:54,000
I think it's easy to look at this like it's a giant parcel and think, oh, it's so big if anything gets too close.

931
01:18:54,000 --> 01:19:02,000
It seems closer than if it was a small site, but I think you have to treat every site the same with setbacks landscape.

932
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:11,000
Whatever, as if it was a small site and you want to move your gravel, you can go right to your property line you just can on any property.

933
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:18,000
So I don't think we should in this room be putting restrictions on what people can do.

934
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:24,000
That's my opinion as long as it follows the violence.

935
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:28,000
Adding extra buffers and boundaries, I don't think so.

936
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:33,000
That's my opinion.

937
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:37,000
Councillor Patel. Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

938
01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:57,000
I agree with Councillor Lewis to an extent, I think some of the minor things we can take to public hearing and then make some decisions after that, but for the setbacks for for what it's looking and for the presentation we got I'm I'm I'm good with moving it and I'm supportive of it.

939
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:01,000
Councillor Reed.

940
01:20:01,000 --> 01:20:06,000
Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Just to be clear, level one landscaping buffer.

941
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:12,000
The requirements in the zoning by law say there are no guidance for the buffer. There's nothing.

942
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:16,000
Don't have to do anything. That's level one. Nothing.

943
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:20,000
No commitment. That's what we're saying.

944
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:25,000
Level one on the exterior boundaries of this site.

945
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:30,000
Doesn't mean they have to do anything. That's level one. That's what we're saying is okay.

946
01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:34,000
The minimum landscaping required for access driveways is level two.

947
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:40,000
As regulated, when adjacent to a dedicated road or the exterior bound to a site.

948
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:48,000
So the only requirement to put a level two buffer in is when the road access road runs along the bound of the site.

949
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:53,000
And if you know the property, there was a big problem with one of the neighbours.

950
01:20:53,000 --> 01:20:58,000
They have the main access road to the winery right along their property.

951
01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:04,000
Not a buffer from their property line, but the applicant put in landscaping.

952
01:21:04,000 --> 01:21:10,000
And that's what that section is there for where the access road is to help that process.

953
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:15,000
But it doesn't help if you've got 180 units of children's camp.

954
01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:20,000
An employee housing with your six potentially six or 10 meter buffer.

955
01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:25,000
Lands a setback. But you have no landscaping requirement.

956
01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:28,000
You have to shield it in anyway.

957
01:21:28,000 --> 01:21:32,000
You could have a 10 meter high building.

958
01:21:32,000 --> 01:21:36,000
Possibly 10 meters, possibly six meters, we're not quite sure yet.

959
01:21:36,000 --> 01:21:40,000
From your property line. No requirement.

960
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:47,000
And I don't think that's right. I think if we're dealing with properties down in the downtown core, we asked for landscaping.

961
01:21:47,000 --> 01:21:52,000
Why is this so different? Only when it bots up against the residential property.

962
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:55,000
And it's going to need buffering.

963
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:57,000
That's all I'm suggesting.

964
01:21:57,000 --> 01:22:00,000
And I think that's fair.

965
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:03,000
Thanks, Catherine.

966
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:07,000
All right.

967
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:09,000
All right.

968
01:22:09,000 --> 01:22:10,000
All right.

969
01:22:10,000 --> 01:22:12,000
Talk to you about this today.

970
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:15,000
We have a motion on the floor.

971
01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:23,000
I'm just going to call the question on the motion that we go to public hearing with what we have.

972
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:27,000
So all those in favor.

973
01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:29,000
Opposed.

974
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:38,000
Councillor Reed and Councillor Urban opposed to motion carries.

975
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:45,000
We will move on to.

976
01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:56,000
Do we want to take a break? We got lots to get through here tonight.

977
01:22:56,000 --> 01:23:00,000
Do we want to short break?

978
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:01,000
Yeah.

979
01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:02,000
No.

980
01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:04,000
I must be going.

981
01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:06,000
7.2.

982
01:23:06,000 --> 01:23:08,000
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

983
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:12,000
Item 7.2 is the 2024 interim housing needs report.

984
01:23:12,000 --> 01:23:15,000
And I believe this will be introduced by Brian.

985
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:21,000
And then followed up by our director and our consultant as well as it's here, I believe.

986
01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:46,000
Good evening.

987
01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:48,000
Thank you, Chair.

988
01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:55,000
I'm here to introduce to you tonight the presentation on the district of Lake country's interim housing needs report.

989
01:23:56,000 --> 01:24:02,000
The district's consultant Daniel Sturgeon will be here to present the report for your information.

990
01:24:02,000 --> 01:24:09,000
But before I turn it over to him, I'm just going to provide a little bit more context to inform the discussion.

991
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:18,000
And the housing projects that district will be undertaking and discuss a little bit more about department work plans.

992
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:21,000
So I'll start by saying that the planning team has.

993
01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:34,000
So I'll start by saying that the planning team has been focused on processing development related applications this year.

994
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:37,000
2024 and we'll continue to do so next year 2025.

995
01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:49,000
We've made great strides in processing development improvements to complete the review of files largely for residential development in our community.

996
01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:55,000
So we'll continue to continue to apply to continue to do.

997
01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:59,000
This important work is what I mean to say.

998
01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:02,000
And as noted in the report to council.

999
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:13,000
The provinces required municipalities to undertake a series of policy regulatory and process amendments to increase the supply of to increase the supply of housing in our community.

1000
01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:17,000
And that's what's illustrated on this slide in in blue in the middle.

1001
01:25:17,000 --> 01:25:23,000
So the report references them generally as bill 44 amendments to the local government act.

1002
01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:25,000
So we've begun that work.

1003
01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:32,000
Council has approved this small scale multiple housing zoning while amendment did that in June July.

1004
01:25:32,000 --> 01:25:39,000
And today we're here to get a better look at the district's interim housing needs assessment.

1005
01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:42,000
And we'll continue to do more work and in this regard.

1006
01:25:42,000 --> 01:25:49,000
The presentation tonight will highlight additional requirements including future OCP and zoning bylaw amendments.

1007
01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:53,000
Required in 2025 and beyond.

1008
01:25:53,000 --> 01:26:05,000
So finally the council report notes that the district will also embark on a general OCP update and amendment in 25 and targeted to conclude in 2026.

1009
01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:18,000
And so council has identified this as a priority project for staff and it's an opportunity to reevaluate existing policies and consider new DLC goals and objectives.

1010
01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:25,000
A staff will provide more information on this work in a future report to council.

1011
01:26:25,000 --> 01:26:32,000
Which will include details on engagement planning with our community.

1012
01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:47,000
So now I will invite the director of development approvals to provide additional context on the interim housing needs report presentation that will follow.

1013
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:49,000
Thank you.

1014
01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:55,000
Just want to give you a little bit of background on where we've gotten this year.

1015
01:26:56,000 --> 01:27:03,000
So Tim Brocktober updated you on some of the housing permits and development applications we've issued this year so.

1016
01:27:03,000 --> 01:27:08,000
I know this is quite small but if you look closely in the the bright blueish color there.

1017
01:27:08,000 --> 01:27:14,000
It just gives an idea of where we've issued multifamily property or building permits this year.

1018
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:20,000
We've had 10 different multifamily permits out of the 220 permits the building departments issued.

1019
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:27,000
Total of those total units for all multifamily single-family secondary suites is about 282.

1020
01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:32,000
The multifamily is out up to 224 of those units.

1021
01:27:32,000 --> 01:27:41,000
Three of those are dueplexes two triplexes two fourplexes two apartments total in 199 units and then one townhouse for five of those units.

1022
01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:44,000
So this sort of just gives the.

1023
01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:54,000
Layout is to where both those go if I can can I still find the pointer I'll use the most.

1024
01:27:54,000 --> 01:28:01,000
The one of the apartments up here at the shore rise I believe shoreline development.

1025
01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:03,000
We've got.

1026
01:28:03,000 --> 01:28:10,000
Town homes in this area here down here we've got our other apartment building and then doplexes over here in the cars landing area.

1027
01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:14,000
So just to give you an idea of where that construction's taking place.

1028
01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:18,000
This map literally is here to follow or see where we're at.

1029
01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:24,000
Is the development applications that we've reviewed for multifamily this year.

1030
01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:39,000
There are various stages of application we've had some of them about five permits go through full development permit we've had two OCP zoning amendment files go through.

1031
01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:43,000
They're some adopted not all yet summer at third reading.

1032
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:49,000
One is an area structure plan that we have not fully brought forward yet.

1033
01:28:49,000 --> 01:28:58,000
And of those there's about 1599 units give or take it's very specific number to be give or take but.

1034
01:28:58,000 --> 01:29:05,000
We actually haven't seen building permit on these ones yet so while we're producing those through the system and working those with council.

1035
01:29:05,000 --> 01:29:16,000
It's projects that were proved previously that have been issued as building permits in 2024 we're still working with applicants to try and get them for complete the building permit process on that.

1036
01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:24,000
So just to give the idea of how that works his way through council we've been throwing a lot of units that you guys in the last few months here.

1037
01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:32,000
We try and keep those going because we know not all of them necessarily go through and we try and work with the applicants as best we can to get those projects to move ahead.

1038
01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:39,000
Just to give you a little insight as to where we've arrived before our in term housing presentation.

1039
01:29:57,000 --> 01:30:01,000
I'll turn it over now to Daniel surgery.

1040
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:14,500
Good morning. Thank you. I said my name is Daniel Spurgeon. I work with Urban Systems, and I'm a planner out of the

1041
01:30:14,500 --> 01:30:20,340
clone office here, working on mostly land use housing policy, OCPs, this type of thing, and our team

1042
01:30:20,340 --> 01:30:25,340
is supported late country on a few other engineering and transportation related topics. It's

1043
01:30:25,340 --> 01:30:31,340
going to be here. So, our scope of work for this was to develop this interim housing

1044
01:30:31,340 --> 01:30:35,840
needs report for the district, which is basically a truncated or simplified version of a

1045
01:30:35,840 --> 01:30:41,240
bigger housing needs report. I understand you have one from a year ago, relatively new, and throughout

1046
01:30:41,240 --> 01:30:46,340
the presentation, I'll explain the differences and the purpose of these interim reports to you.

1047
01:30:46,340 --> 01:30:53,340
I see, let's go. Okay. So, I'm going to focus on the context surrounding housing needs reports,

1048
01:30:53,340 --> 01:30:56,340
and what this means for a country more than the specific numbers in the report, and have

1049
01:30:56,340 --> 01:31:00,340
to answer questions on those specific numbers from council. I'll go through a bit of a background on how

1050
01:31:00,340 --> 01:31:06,340
we got here. What it means for you, what the housing needs estimates are, and the implications on

1051
01:31:06,340 --> 01:31:09,340
your existing housing needs report in your next steps, along with those required by law

1052
01:31:09,340 --> 01:31:16,340
amendments that Brian just mentioned. So, if we'll go back to 2019, that was when the provincial

1053
01:31:16,340 --> 01:31:22,340
government first enacted requirements for housing needs reports, and looking for local governments

1054
01:31:22,340 --> 01:31:27,340
to describe their current and anticipate that the housing needs. This was a shift to encourage

1055
01:31:27,340 --> 01:31:32,340
more of an evidence-based approach to housing policy, to accommodate growth and the various and

1056
01:31:32,340 --> 01:31:37,340
diverse needs of populations. There's three major points on the slides on the slide here. One is that

1057
01:31:37,340 --> 01:31:43,340
those housing needs reports rely on census data, housing data from CMHC, local interviews, and other

1058
01:31:43,340 --> 01:31:49,340
local data sources. The second is that housing needs reports are intended to identify needs

1059
01:31:50,340 --> 01:31:55,340
across the different types and tenures of housing to address the different income levels across the community.

1060
01:31:55,340 --> 01:31:59,340
The third one is something you've probably seen in various reports circulating around there, and that's a

1061
01:31:59,340 --> 01:32:04,340
Canada's estimated to have a shortfall of three and a half million housing units by 2030, if we don't

1062
01:32:04,340 --> 01:32:08,340
wrap up housing production. So, that's what these reports are intended to inform.

1063
01:32:08,340 --> 01:32:13,340
It's what that starts to look like throughout the future. The country is a whole, and a lot of

1064
01:32:13,340 --> 01:32:18,340
the municipalities around this area need more housing and many types of different costs for

1065
01:32:18,340 --> 01:32:24,340
different income levels. So, your existing 2023 housing needs assessment is what I would call the

1066
01:32:24,340 --> 01:32:29,340
full meal deal. It's only one year old. It's a good document. There's nothing wrong with it. It's got a whole

1067
01:32:29,340 --> 01:32:34,340
bunch of really good stuff in it. It's got interviews with people from the community, profiles, different

1068
01:32:34,340 --> 01:32:40,340
households to understand what those individual housing needs are. And this remains a valid resource for you with

1069
01:32:40,340 --> 01:32:47,340
support and data and really important insights into the community. So, moving on to the last year,

1070
01:32:47,340 --> 01:32:52,340
it's been a busy year in planning. Bill 44 changes. I'm sure council is familiar with this with

1071
01:32:52,340 --> 01:32:58,340
the small scale multi housing, the changes to public housing. So, Bill 44 or sort of public hearings.

1072
01:32:58,340 --> 01:33:05,340
So, Bill 44 also made these changes to the government act with respect to housing needs reports. There's five important

1073
01:33:06,340 --> 01:33:11,340
points I want to highlight here. And that's that the new housing needs reports moving forward in the future.

1074
01:33:11,340 --> 01:33:18,340
I have to follow this standardized calculation method called the HNR method. These reports now have to include a five year

1075
01:33:18,340 --> 01:33:25,340
estimate and a 20 year housing need estimate. Councils are required to local governments are required to complete these

1076
01:33:25,340 --> 01:33:32,340
interim housing needs reports by January next month. And then municipalities are required to ensure that that 20 year

1077
01:33:32,340 --> 01:33:39,340
number in those reports is accommodated by zoning and OCP to allow those housing units over that next

1078
01:33:39,340 --> 01:33:45,340
period of time. Following that, regular housing needs reports required to be five years and the first is

1079
01:33:45,340 --> 01:33:52,340
required December 31st, 2028 and then five years after that. So, I'll detail these more throughout the presentation.

1080
01:33:52,340 --> 01:33:58,340
The province did account for the fact that a lot of places had just done a housing needs report. And so, they've introduced

1081
01:33:58,340 --> 01:34:05,340
this one time requirement for interim housing needs reports. There's three major components to these and so I'll just run through

1082
01:34:05,340 --> 01:34:12,340
those real quick. They're in your report that you have and also in the interim report itself. One is like I just mentioned, the number of

1083
01:34:12,340 --> 01:34:19,340
housing units needed currently and over the next five and 20 years calculated using this new HNR method. The second requirement is the

1084
01:34:19,340 --> 01:34:25,340
description of the actions taken by each local government to address housing needs since you received your most recent

1085
01:34:25,340 --> 01:34:30,340
report. So, for you, it's only a year. And the third major requirement is the statement of both the need for

1086
01:34:30,340 --> 01:34:35,340
housing and close proximity to transportation infrastructure, the supports, walking, cycling, transit or other alternative

1087
01:34:35,340 --> 01:34:42,340
forms. So, the first one is the biggest change. The second two are basically two additional pieces that are added to the

1088
01:34:42,340 --> 01:34:48,340
already somewhat long list of other requirements that go into your regular housing needs reports. So, the province is just

1089
01:34:48,340 --> 01:34:59,340
basically asking you to append these three pieces to your existing report. So, a few things to consider about these reports,

1090
01:34:59,340 --> 01:35:08,340
and I'll just walk through these one by one. This is a prescribed method. That HNR method I just described is prescribed.

1091
01:35:08,340 --> 01:35:15,340
It's the same process for all immunosuppilities, uses the same data sources for all immunosuppilities and the province intense for this to be comparable

1092
01:35:15,340 --> 01:35:21,340
results from place to place to place. There's different ways to generate population projections, different ways to estimate housing

1093
01:35:21,340 --> 01:35:30,340
need, and it's been done differently in different places before. Now, everyone does the same method. So, I think what's important with that is that some of the results in these reports with

1094
01:35:30,340 --> 01:35:42,340
respect to this specific numbers don't always reflect local conditions. So, the numbers are important, but they may not be precise. Two, these reports estimate need. They don't predict growth.

1095
01:35:42,340 --> 01:36:10,340
They don't predict growth. They don't predict growth. These are housing estimates. Three, there's no performance metrics in place for these. Like you've heard of the housing supply act, you've heard of other immunosuppilities that have to meet targets. That's not what this is about. This is about estimating need to inform housing policy. And with that number four, the primary purpose of these reports is to inform that 20-year figure that you have to accommodate and zoning and accommodate a no-cp. It's not to meet certain targets of certain types of housing.

1096
01:36:10,340 --> 01:36:22,340
Five, I'll read that off the slide here. This is to support policy decisions to increase supply across the housing network. So, that image on the screen is taken from your existing housing needs report.

1097
01:36:22,340 --> 01:36:27,340
And it talks about the different types of housing, the different tenures of housing, rental, and ownership, and on market.

1098
01:36:27,340 --> 01:36:38,340
And so, this kind of work with these reports that shows different types of housing is intended to help you understand what those different needs are across that housing network as you call it.

1099
01:36:38,340 --> 01:36:53,340
So, the number six here, the level of effort towards different components of housing that are talked about in these reports will not be equal.

1100
01:36:53,340 --> 01:37:02,340
This is proactive planning. It's intended to understand what these needs look like. And give you the tools to start talking and having conversations about what that looks like.

1101
01:37:02,340 --> 01:37:12,340
So, non-market housing subsidized housing that's talked about in the report is hard work. These are complex topics. These kinds of things take partnerships. They're not applications that walk in the front door of city hall.

1102
01:37:12,340 --> 01:37:22,340
So, that's just going back to that point there. This says that these are not. These are not mandated needs. These are to inform conversations.

1103
01:37:22,340 --> 01:37:33,340
This HNR method has six components that effectively are six calculations added together to come up with those estimates. The first one is extreme core housing need. I'll just go through these quite quickly.

1104
01:37:33,340 --> 01:37:40,340
Stream core housing need is households that spend 50% or more of their pre-tax income on their housing costs.

1105
01:37:40,340 --> 01:37:48,340
And, or they live in housing which needs repair or as unsuitable for their situation and their family, their family needs.

1106
01:37:48,340 --> 01:37:56,340
Two is the homeless population. Obviously, people who have no permanent home, this can include people living in shelters or hidden homeless, such as couchsurfing.

1107
01:37:56,340 --> 01:38:07,340
Three suppressed households is households that haven't performed, because they can't afford to move into the housing system. So, this is people in their 20s say that are living in the parent's basement that can't afford rent.

1108
01:38:07,340 --> 01:38:18,340
Remains who can't afford their own place. Four is housing units required to accommodate population growth. So, this has taken the state of the BC stats population projections.

1109
01:38:18,340 --> 01:38:23,340
The fifth component is a shortfall of rental units to achieve a healthy vacancy rate.

1110
01:38:23,340 --> 01:38:34,340
One important caveat with this is that it's based on the current number of rental units in the community. It's not based on any sort of metric of a proportion of rental units in the community. That's why the numbers are so small in your report.

1111
01:38:34,340 --> 01:38:46,340
And six is additional demand generated by regional movement and regional growth patterns. So, that's trying to say if one place is more dense than another, that maybe there's a balancing act that has to happen between those.

1112
01:38:46,340 --> 01:38:52,340
And so on the screen here is the Coles Notes version of your interim housing needs report.

1113
01:38:52,340 --> 01:38:58,340
The top row shows your estimated five year need, which is 1485 units.

1114
01:38:58,340 --> 01:39:05,340
The second row shows your estimated 20 year need, which is 5,162 units.

1115
01:39:05,340 --> 01:39:15,340
The H&R method prescribes more housing is needed within the first five years to address immediate demand, like homelessness, core housing, and the rest households.

1116
01:39:15,340 --> 01:39:20,340
On the right-hand side, those numbers are broken down into annual numbers.

1117
01:39:20,340 --> 01:39:32,340
So, for the first five years, that works out to 2097 units per year, and for the remaining 15 years it works out to 2045 units per year.

1118
01:39:32,340 --> 01:39:37,340
Here's the individual categories with the specific numbers for your community.

1119
01:39:37,340 --> 01:39:42,340
As I said, I won't go into these in detail, but happy to answer questions on the specifics afterwards.

1120
01:39:42,340 --> 01:39:47,340
The numbers here are important. The amounts relative to each other are important.

1121
01:39:47,340 --> 01:39:52,340
The categories don't necessarily align with how you go about supporting and building and developing housing.

1122
01:39:52,340 --> 01:40:04,340
As I mentioned before in the presentation, what's really important here for the purpose of this report is a number that's circled at the bottom of the slide, which is that 20 year estimated housing need that needs to be reflected in zoning.

1123
01:40:04,340 --> 01:40:07,340
And I'll return to that in just a minute.

1124
01:40:07,340 --> 01:40:15,340
So looking back at your existing housing needs report, these are relatively the same on a year by year basis.

1125
01:40:15,340 --> 01:40:30,340
There's so much similar. And so that two separate methods created a similar estimate is a good thing and suggested it's a good number feed and measure against in terms of meeting the demands of growth in the community.

1126
01:40:30,340 --> 01:40:35,340
So again, looking back at your previous housing needs report and aligning those findings.

1127
01:40:35,340 --> 01:40:45,340
The HNR method estimates a slightly higher need. This is due to the suppressed households and demand demand buffer components that weren't previously included in housing needs report.

1128
01:40:45,340 --> 01:40:49,340
So that's why you're seeing that slightly different.

1129
01:40:49,340 --> 01:40:50,340
Different number there.

1130
01:40:50,340 --> 01:40:58,340
Your current report and your previous report are very different documents and this is as a result of the HNR method does not account for income.

1131
01:40:58,340 --> 01:41:07,340
It doesn't account for type of housing in terms of rental or ownership by and large and it doesn't account for demographic or cultural needs.

1132
01:41:07,340 --> 01:41:21,340
Regular housing needs reports include content that would contextualize this and an example from your current housing needs report is those key statements of need and further demographic analysis that goes into understanding what those needs are specific to the community.

1133
01:41:21,340 --> 01:41:34,340
And so that's why the content from your previous housing needs report remains important.

1134
01:41:34,340 --> 01:41:50,340
And so looking back at that report what was done in the interim housing needs report for you is to use some of the affordability and tenure data and apply that to your five year housing need to organize that into categories that are more relatable to housing creation and housing approvals.

1135
01:41:51,340 --> 01:41:54,340
So we've broken that down into these four separate categories.

1136
01:41:56,340 --> 01:42:09,340
On the right hand side of the screen number one or sorry 33 percent my first point here is number one 33 percent reflects income levels in the community that would really require non market housing and again looking towards partnerships.

1137
01:42:09,340 --> 01:42:27,340
B.C. housing type projects and partnerships and work with nonprofit communities that 33 percent is reflective of Canada's whole households that make less than 50 to 60 thousand dollars a year really struggle to pay rent in the community and that's what that's what this is telling us.

1138
01:42:27,340 --> 01:42:33,340
The balance of the housing unit shown on here so the market rental housing and the market ownership housing.

1139
01:42:33,340 --> 01:42:48,340
And we've got to reflect both rental and ownership obviously the split reflects the B.C. tenure split so in B.C. we have about 33 percent of all housing units across the province of rental and the remaining is ownership housing so we've applied that percentage here to just give you a sense of what housing need in the community.

1140
01:42:48,340 --> 01:42:57,340
Would look like based on that split and based on the income that we see in Lake Country based on that previous housing needs report.

1141
01:42:57,340 --> 01:43:11,340
And in the report you've got a slightly more detailed version of this and it shows how each of these different categories addresses those key areas of need that are described in your previous 2023 housing needs report.

1142
01:43:11,340 --> 01:43:20,340
The other required content that has to go into these reports these two pieces one is the statement on transportation near alternative transportation.

1143
01:43:20,340 --> 01:43:33,340
The statement is put in their recognizes the the need for increasing housing supply and diversity in your town center to support active transit reflects your OCP growth strategy and the location of your existing cycling infrastructure.

1144
01:43:33,340 --> 01:43:42,340
And the actions since you last housing needs report there's eight of them that were detailed in the report will go into those in detail.

1145
01:43:42,340 --> 01:43:56,340
And so what does this mean? The interim housing needs report must be received by council prior to January 1st 2025 so we're on schedule and made publicly available on your website. So that that fulfills your requirement for this this stage of the game.

1146
01:43:56,340 --> 01:44:11,340
Following that as Brian detailed in his presentation leading up to this the municipalities required to ensure that your OCP the statements, the maps, the landest designation and in your zoning by law can anticipate and accommodate that 20 year estimate.

1147
01:44:12,340 --> 01:44:20,340
And then following that number three that the OCP and zoning by law must be reviewed and updated by December 31st 2025 so a year from now.

1148
01:44:20,340 --> 01:44:30,340
Again this this update doesn't need to be tied to tenure or type at this point time. It's simply about making sure that that number of housing needs can be accommodated in regulations.

1149
01:44:30,340 --> 01:44:35,340
Best practices to align effort to housing need that's a future conversation.

1150
01:44:36,340 --> 01:44:44,340
And lastly this is the beginning of a new five year planning cycle so a subsequent housing needs report is due December 31st 2028.

1151
01:44:44,340 --> 01:44:54,340
Corresponding OCP and zoning by law updates to adjust to that report in 2030 and then every five years after that repeat.

1152
01:44:54,340 --> 01:44:57,340
Thank you very much. I'm happy to answer any questions.

1153
01:44:57,340 --> 01:45:00,340
Thank you questions from council.

1154
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:15,000
Councillor Brett? Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Thank you for the presentation and the report. So I think I understood that this was a high level. There's some implications

1155
01:45:15,000 --> 01:45:29,000
in the data and caveats. So thank you for that and the report that was helpful. Do you mind going back to the numbers in circle that you had?

1156
01:45:29,000 --> 01:45:42,000
So the total estimated number units is the 20 years and that's the number you said to focus on. And why was that again? That's the number that we should be aiming for within 20 years?

1157
01:45:42,000 --> 01:45:53,000
Through the various. So the zoning bylaw update that's needed is to ensure that you have zoning in place that can allow that number of housing needs to be developed.

1158
01:45:53,000 --> 01:45:59,000
So there's a hypothetical situation if you received enough development applications tomorrow.

1159
01:45:59,000 --> 01:46:04,000
For 5,000 housing needs, you would need to be able to accommodate that without a rezoning process.

1160
01:46:04,000 --> 01:46:06,000
That you're zoning just simply allows that.

1161
01:46:06,000 --> 01:46:15,000
My understanding and speaking with Brian is that you're probably somewhere in the ballpark of that with your existing small scale multi-million housing in your other existing zone.

1162
01:46:15,000 --> 01:46:17,000
So that's what that means.

1163
01:46:17,000 --> 01:46:20,000
Okay, thank you. I just have two questions.

1164
01:46:21,000 --> 01:46:30,000
So I misunderstood in the report. I think so the suppressed household formation. That's not in addition to these numbers. That's included in this number correct.

1165
01:46:30,000 --> 01:46:36,000
I think that when I read it, I thought the suppressed would be in it need an additional 220 units.

1166
01:46:36,000 --> 01:46:41,000
Through the mayor, the numbers that you see in front of you on the screen.

1167
01:46:41,000 --> 01:46:52,000
The left hand column is totaled to add up to the 1485 and the right hand numbers are totaled to add up to the 5000. So the suppressed household amount is included in those totals.

1168
01:46:52,000 --> 01:46:57,000
Okay, so we're not also playing catch up on top. This includes everything. Okay, thank you.

1169
01:46:57,000 --> 01:47:05,000
And then finally the last question I have is on the town center portion near the end of your presentation. How is that defined.

1170
01:47:05,000 --> 01:47:08,000
Is that our plan or.

1171
01:47:08,000 --> 01:47:18,000
The statement that's in report is intended to reflect your existing OCP. So it's referencing your town center as it's defined in your OCP.

1172
01:47:18,000 --> 01:47:20,000
Okay, thank you.

1173
01:47:20,000 --> 01:47:21,000
See you.

1174
01:47:21,000 --> 01:47:28,000
Thank you Mr. Mayor, just a clarification. So these these numbers are based on 2021 status to year.

1175
01:47:29,000 --> 01:47:40,000
The we do have a backlog of homes which we never met between the last census in this one because the 23 housing needs assessment identified.

1176
01:47:40,000 --> 01:47:57,000
There are 500 units that we didn't build if we identified X number of units between that census and the 2021 census. So we're about 500 units short going into 2021 and these numbers are from 2021.

1177
01:47:57,000 --> 01:48:14,000
So you need to add about 500 to that number. If we're going to keep pace since the last time and I think that's what the 23 said. So just a clarification.

1178
01:48:15,000 --> 01:48:23,000
Thank you Mr. Mayor and thank you Daniel for the presentation. I really appreciate the short form cause notes version because I was.

1179
01:48:23,000 --> 01:48:28,000
There's a lot of technical data in there and I'm afraid my attention might have wondered at times.

1180
01:48:28,000 --> 01:48:35,000
I think you've brought it to life in a sense that both these reports need to be read together.

1181
01:48:35,000 --> 01:48:44,000
For me, this interim housing report, which in its acknowledges that it does have some shortcomings in methodology.

1182
01:48:44,000 --> 01:48:51,000
Kind of almost reinforces the information that's in the 2023 housing needs report.

1183
01:48:51,000 --> 01:49:02,000
My question would be when you broke it down there was a slide there that broke it down into housing types like affordable rental units.

1184
01:49:03,000 --> 01:49:13,000
One of the strengths of the interest that the 2023 housing report was that it gave you some idea of when you're talking market ownership housing.

1185
01:49:13,000 --> 01:49:21,000
How many should be multifamily and how many should be single family because obviously we have less of one and a lot of the other.

1186
01:49:21,000 --> 01:49:29,000
Is it possible to see those numbers as a housing type as well as an ownership type?

1187
01:49:29,000 --> 01:49:35,000
Because I think for me that would really when we're looking at the zoning by law and we're looking at the OCP.

1188
01:49:35,000 --> 01:49:47,000
It's not just about a hundred six hundred and sixty market ownership houses. It's what form do those take and are they and do they meet the needs of our community.

1189
01:49:47,000 --> 01:49:55,000
Through the mirror. Thank you for that question. It's the cold note answer is it's complicated.

1190
01:49:55,000 --> 01:50:06,000
It's the your previous housing needs report suggested that about sixty five percent of housing should be in this sort of two bedroom range or less.

1191
01:50:06,000 --> 01:50:16,000
Without taking the data from the interim housing needs report tearing it apart and basically redoing housing needs report.

1192
01:50:16,000 --> 01:50:22,000
It wouldn't be good practice to suggest trying to force one date on top of the other.

1193
01:50:22,000 --> 01:50:27,000
So that's why these two are really side by side companion documents.

1194
01:50:27,000 --> 01:50:38,000
Your next housing needs report that's done will be sort of a combined version of the two of these and so presumably you know the whoever does that would take those two things to no account and do that analysis.

1195
01:50:38,000 --> 01:50:46,000
That's part one of the answer part two is that it is a policy decision from council about how many housing units get built where at least on your regulations.

1196
01:50:46,000 --> 01:50:51,000
So these the report still has enough data to inform that but it's it's a bit nuanced.

1197
01:50:51,000 --> 01:50:59,000
Just the follow up question is there a mandate to redo this report we have to redo it every five years. Okay. Thank you.

1198
01:51:00,000 --> 01:51:03,000
Thank you for the presentation.

1199
01:51:03,000 --> 01:51:16,000
I'm not sure if this question can be answered by you or say oh you mentioned say oh that we have to take into account about five hundred units in addition for the five year plan that started twenty twenty one.

1200
01:51:16,000 --> 01:51:27,000
So that's almost two thousand units that we need does that take into account what we've built already in that five years or is this in addition to what we've built.

1201
01:51:27,000 --> 01:51:41,000
I like to stab at it the twenty twenty three report said you need this many units built between twenty twenty one and twenty thirty one because they're there have different time periods.

1202
01:51:41,000 --> 01:51:50,000
And it said in addition to that you haven't completed about five hundred units if you're building 250 units per year to keep up with growth.

1203
01:51:50,000 --> 01:51:59,000
We've been building 150 years so for the last five so we're five hundred short going into the twenty twenty one housing needs assessment.

1204
01:51:59,000 --> 01:52:11,000
So they said housing report they said we needed three that are twenty five hundred and five units over the ten year period and mixing up reports here.

1205
01:52:11,000 --> 01:52:26,000
In addition to that there was five hundred homes previously five hundred units that weren't built at that 250 a year level for the five years previously so there is a there's a larger demand.

1206
01:52:26,000 --> 01:52:34,000
For the ten year period sorry it's that we needed about three thousand and five units now.

1207
01:52:34,000 --> 01:52:42,000
Of course to come get it this is saying five years report between twenty three and twenty eight so a lot of numbers out there.

1208
01:52:42,000 --> 01:52:55,000
But we know you need fourteen hundred eighty five beat four twenty twenty eight and there was five hundred before that that we didn't build if we were keeping.

1209
01:52:55,000 --> 01:53:02,000
I feel a flow chart coming at some point, but I think I got it.

1210
01:53:02,000 --> 01:53:03,000
Just call it lots.

1211
01:53:03,000 --> 01:53:04,000
All right.

1212
01:53:04,000 --> 01:53:06,000
We just have lots of help.

1213
01:53:06,000 --> 01:53:07,000
Okay.

1214
01:53:07,000 --> 01:53:08,000
Thank you.

1215
01:53:08,000 --> 01:53:09,000
Hello.

1216
01:53:09,000 --> 01:53:11,000
Thank you Mr. Mayor.

1217
01:53:11,000 --> 01:53:12,000
So just a question on that.

1218
01:53:12,000 --> 01:53:16,000
I mean that this seems like a very complicated and strange way of doing this.

1219
01:53:16,000 --> 01:53:23,000
I'm considering we're two weeks away from twenty twenty five or five year report is twenty twenty one to twenty twenty six.

1220
01:53:23,000 --> 01:53:34,000
Why why don't we just start twenty twenty five and say we need two thousand homes instead of we needed fourteen hundred plus five hundred five years ago plus two hundred.

1221
01:53:35,000 --> 01:53:36,000
Through the mayor.

1222
01:53:36,000 --> 01:53:41,000
The province was not specific in saying the timeframe for these housing needs reports.

1223
01:53:41,000 --> 01:53:44,000
They didn't say twenty twenty twenty six twenty thirty one.

1224
01:53:44,000 --> 01:53:48,000
They didn't say twenty twenty twenty one twenty twenty six.

1225
01:53:48,000 --> 01:53:56,000
The the growth estimates are based on census data from twenty twenty one standard practice preparing these reports has been to back date.

1226
01:53:56,000 --> 01:53:58,000
So there there is no.

1227
01:53:59,000 --> 01:54:02,000
The long and the short of the answer on housing need is growth is happening.

1228
01:54:02,000 --> 01:54:07,000
There's there's approximately five thousand necessary housing units within a twenty year timeframe.

1229
01:54:07,000 --> 01:54:09,000
You're not going to see all those up front.

1230
01:54:09,000 --> 01:54:13,000
You might see more earlier and you might see a peak in a taper off.

1231
01:54:13,000 --> 01:54:16,000
You know especially when it comes to multifamily housing applications.

1232
01:54:16,000 --> 01:54:17,000
They're going to come in waves.

1233
01:54:17,000 --> 01:54:21,000
Are you going to get sixty-year units and then you're not going to see a few.

1234
01:54:21,000 --> 01:54:25,000
So the the applications are coming in the need is there and that's what this report is trying to prepare.

1235
01:54:25,000 --> 01:54:30,000
Local governments for across the province of that that push for housing is necessary.

1236
01:54:30,000 --> 01:54:33,000
I have a second question that's sort of related to that.

1237
01:54:33,000 --> 01:54:36,000
Well I think it's more directed to Brian.

1238
01:54:36,000 --> 01:54:41,000
Which is when we take into account the small scale multi unit housing.

1239
01:54:41,000 --> 01:54:50,000
Are we counting every urban lot as for potential dwelling units even though we know that probably most of them can't.

1240
01:54:50,000 --> 01:55:03,000
And is that going to skew our projections and our numbers when we know that maybe we can get a secondary suite in a house, but we're not necessarily building another house with a secondary suite on that small urban lot.

1241
01:55:03,000 --> 01:55:10,000
I'm just curious how that is are we just going for four four four four four four or are we not doing that.

1242
01:55:10,000 --> 01:55:17,000
Thank you for the question through the chair to council Lewis that work will begin next year.

1243
01:55:17,000 --> 01:55:27,000
But I take your point that that density isn't every lot isn't eligible for those units even though that density would would allow for it.

1244
01:55:27,000 --> 01:55:38,000
But we are also kind of following the limitations of the information we have we have to compare our existing policy and regulation against the numbers in the housing needs report.

1245
01:55:38,000 --> 01:55:46,000
So ways to do that would be to estimate a unit count based on future land use designation and our potential zoning.

1246
01:55:46,000 --> 01:55:58,000
What the potential zone would allow so we'll have to evaluate those details just to see if it makes sense or not, but the province says we must do that analysis and we have to satisfy their requirement.

1247
01:55:58,000 --> 01:56:06,000
But we also have to come up with data that make sense for us going forward when we're contemplating rezoning applications and development proposals so.

1248
01:56:06,000 --> 01:56:19,000
I hope I answered your question, but it's going to take a little time to digest the information, but on the surface will be using that basic zoning to do some kind of comparison.

1249
01:56:19,000 --> 01:56:20,000
Right.

1250
01:56:20,000 --> 01:56:21,000
Okay.

1251
01:56:21,000 --> 01:56:22,000
Yeah.

1252
01:56:22,000 --> 01:56:23,000
Thanks.

1253
01:56:23,000 --> 01:56:25,000
Thank you Councillor McKenzie.

1254
01:56:25,000 --> 01:56:28,000
Thank you Mr. Mayor.

1255
01:56:29,000 --> 01:56:38,000
Thanks for that presentation. I got to say this was a very not very clear report to be compared to ours in 2023.

1256
01:56:38,000 --> 01:56:42,000
That was way more precise and.

1257
01:56:42,000 --> 01:56:53,000
I get it if it's province standard and probably explains a lot of it right but it's just it would be nicer if it was more clean cut like the last one because exactly like.

1258
01:56:53,000 --> 01:57:03,000
My fellow counselors comments it was this was not an easy report to read it was very tough so just my comments on that.

1259
01:57:03,000 --> 01:57:10,000
But I do have a question on the person's experiencing homelessness.

1260
01:57:10,000 --> 01:57:18,000
So when we approve a nonprofit housing for different things.

1261
01:57:18,000 --> 01:57:30,000
Like homelessness this is going to be an average of our area which typically we know that Vernon has a problem and clone has a problem as far as what we have here.

1262
01:57:30,000 --> 01:57:44,000
I don't know you know these numbers I think this is going to be skewed for our area and I just want to know how we deal with that when we're doing our OCP because obviously you know if we're required to build some of these places.

1263
01:57:44,000 --> 01:57:52,000
You know what exactly how that even applies to us at this point right.

1264
01:57:52,000 --> 01:57:54,000
Mr. Mayor.

1265
01:57:54,000 --> 01:58:08,000
Mr. Mayor the numbers in the report are specifically to that category are generated based on the number of persons that are accessing services that might be related with those experiencing homelessness.

1266
01:58:08,000 --> 01:58:15,000
That that is accessed on a regional basis and then it's a portionality that's assigned to each municipality.

1267
01:58:15,000 --> 01:58:24,000
There's likely people who may originate from late country that can't afford to fall in the certain situations and they fall in the homelessness.

1268
01:58:24,000 --> 01:58:32,000
Again the report is not in this process is not saying that late country has to provide this number of housing as to address homelessness.

1269
01:58:32,000 --> 01:58:38,000
It's trying to flag that that's in need for certain types of people on its immediate type of housing.

1270
01:58:38,000 --> 01:58:41,000
At a regional scale these are things that probably make more sense region.

1271
01:58:41,000 --> 01:58:48,000
Like Colona has a lot of services. Vernon has services. They may not exist here and people that are experiencing homelessness sometimes need those services.

1272
01:58:48,000 --> 01:58:52,000
And so you put housing in a place with those services and may not address the issue.

1273
01:58:52,000 --> 01:59:02,000
Going back to it. It's really about highlighting this as a need and encouraging a further conversation if I might around this topic.

1274
01:59:02,000 --> 01:59:07,000
But not specifically that those numbers of housing needs to be provided.

1275
01:59:07,000 --> 01:59:12,000
There's a need there. How you address it is as another conversation.

1276
01:59:12,000 --> 01:59:22,000
So yeah. So that I agree. I just I don't know how it applies to us because we don't have any actual numbers to suggest that we have that because we don't have any services.

1277
01:59:22,000 --> 01:59:30,000
So I'm just you know obviously is one where we need to talk about because I don't think it so applies to us here at this point.

1278
01:59:30,000 --> 01:59:33,000
So just tell us a little bit.

1279
01:59:33,000 --> 01:59:39,000
Thank you. I'm just wondering. Does these see transit receive our housing reports?

1280
01:59:39,000 --> 01:59:43,000
The requirement is for you to post it on the website and make a public.

1281
01:59:43,000 --> 01:59:45,000
So we don't send them reports.

1282
01:59:45,000 --> 01:59:47,000
Unless you're staffed as I do.

1283
01:59:47,000 --> 01:59:49,000
I just wondered what that is for planning.

1284
01:59:49,000 --> 01:59:51,000
They see a bunch of girls.

1285
01:59:51,000 --> 01:59:52,000
You can speak to that.

1286
01:59:52,000 --> 01:59:57,000
Yeah. So we we reach out and we talk with BC housing.

1287
01:59:57,000 --> 01:59:59,000
We talk with BC builds.

1288
01:59:59,000 --> 02:00:00,000
We'll.

1289
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:15,000
We'll talk with transit or director of engineering. We'll talk with BC Transit. And they'll talk about all the types of services that they think they need and they're seeing in our community. And that filters back to council and it filters up from council.

1290
02:00:15,000 --> 02:00:20,000
Yeah, so that's generally how it works.

1291
02:00:20,000 --> 02:00:21,000
Councillor Brett.

1292
02:00:21,000 --> 02:00:26,000
Thank you, Mr. Mayor. I'm prepared to move this stuff. Recommendation might do have a comment.

1293
02:00:26,000 --> 02:00:30,000
The seconder there. Councillor Lewis.

1294
02:00:30,000 --> 02:00:31,000
I think comment.

1295
02:00:31,000 --> 02:00:32,000
Comment to wait.

1296
02:00:32,000 --> 02:00:33,000
Comment to wait.

1297
02:00:33,000 --> 02:00:36,000
Okay. Thank you. So my.

1298
02:00:36,000 --> 02:00:42,000
Our community is going through a lot of changes. It's been happening for a very long time.

1299
02:00:42,000 --> 02:00:46,000
Not that long, but we've known about this for a bit.

1300
02:00:46,000 --> 02:00:52,000
So I am a data-driven person. I think that these are helpful for me to make decisions going forward.

1301
02:00:52,000 --> 02:00:58,000
The number of units we need to get to meet what is required of us based on information assessment.

1302
02:00:58,000 --> 02:01:02,000
Maybe the last assessment being the more rigorous one than this one.

1303
02:01:02,000 --> 02:01:10,000
So when we're reviewing files, it would be helpful for me if we.

1304
02:01:10,000 --> 02:01:20,000
I think that we this representation indicate this. It would be helpful for me to understand where this fits in and in the units we have versus the units.

1305
02:01:20,000 --> 02:01:26,000
I don't know how that gets incorporated in in reporting or when if we're going to see that in updates.

1306
02:01:26,000 --> 02:01:32,000
But I'm prepared to make a motion if needed or if that's important.

1307
02:01:32,000 --> 02:01:45,000
Because I think that from my perspective, achieving units and where we're needed for the housing needs assessment is the most important to me as opposed to maybe lots of development here, lots of development there.

1308
02:01:45,000 --> 02:01:51,000
And I think that it guides my thought process on where we advocate for schools or transit or whatnot.

1309
02:01:51,000 --> 02:01:57,000
So I think it's really critical that we understand it when we're making decisions in the future.

1310
02:01:57,000 --> 02:02:03,000
So we've talked with the and the development services department about the need to give council a glimpse.

1311
02:02:03,000 --> 02:02:08,000
As development happens, so they know where they are, where the count is.

1312
02:02:08,000 --> 02:02:23,000
Because at one point, like I think Jeremy had mentioned, we have four or five hundred sixes or even more than that about 800 in the hopper that are somewhere in the process but not near building permit yet.

1313
02:02:23,000 --> 02:02:27,000
So that doesn't mean they're actually going to go and what percentage of those will go.

1314
02:02:27,000 --> 02:02:33,000
So we've talked about how would we report at the front end of the development meeting.

1315
02:02:33,000 --> 02:02:43,000
Where are we on our approval process and are we getting to those numbers and same with our rental housing incentive at what point.

1316
02:02:43,000 --> 02:02:52,000
Do we start saying we're meeting the targets and we can change that so we're actually trying to plan how to report that to council on a regular basis.

1317
02:02:52,000 --> 02:02:53,000
It's a good comment.

1318
02:02:53,000 --> 02:03:00,000
Okay, thank you I appreciate that we just because things are issue doesn't mean they actually get built so I know that that's a complicated number to provide but.

1319
02:03:00,000 --> 02:03:09,000
How many we're approving and it seems like it sometimes a lot or not enough you know over the time that I've been here so I appreciate that so thank you that's all.

1320
02:03:09,000 --> 02:03:13,000
All right, we have a motion on the floor.

1321
02:03:13,000 --> 02:03:16,000
All those in favor.

1322
02:03:16,000 --> 02:03:22,000
Motion carries thank you very much appreciate.

1323
02:03:23,000 --> 02:03:26,000
Seven point three.

1324
02:03:26,000 --> 02:03:36,000
Thank you Mr. Mayor item seven point three is a rezoning application for three two two three would sell road and one one four three seven bottom would like road.

1325
02:03:36,000 --> 02:03:51,000
This will be presented by our director of development fruels Jeremy Frick and just a reminder to council that this has been advertised as public hearing prohibited so there are those no public comment permitted to see.

1326
02:03:52,000 --> 02:03:56,000
Good evening again.

1327
02:03:56,000 --> 02:03:57,000
Good evening again.

1328
02:03:57,000 --> 02:03:59,000
Mayor council.

1329
02:03:59,000 --> 02:04:10,000
Bringing forward to you today the zoning application or rezoning application for three two two three and this time one one four three seven bottom would like road.

1330
02:04:11,000 --> 02:04:15,000
Looking to rezoning from see one to see the 15 at this time.

1331
02:04:15,000 --> 02:04:25,000
This is a one we brought back at the end of November or middle of November for just for council update to let you know it was coming forward down.

1332
02:04:25,000 --> 02:04:28,000
In the pipeline.

1333
02:04:28,000 --> 02:04:34,000
So previous in July of this year the property was actually rezoned from see 10 to see one.

1334
02:04:34,000 --> 02:04:39,000
At the time council requested staff return with amendments to the by law which brings us here today.

1335
02:04:39,000 --> 02:04:45,000
The council's feedback was to limit the zone to more neighborhood commercial type uses.

1336
02:04:45,000 --> 02:04:48,000
And we provided that update as I mentioned in November.

1337
02:04:48,000 --> 02:05:00,000
Today we're considering the counts the the rezoning application and then next stages would be development permit and building permits for the projects if they if and when they move forward.

1338
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:06,000
Giving you idea where the site is here at the corner would stay on bottom would like road.

1339
02:05:06,000 --> 02:05:18,000
Arial view it's the location where home hardware currently exist property I believe when it came to council in July was one large parcel it's been subdivided since then into the two.

1340
02:05:18,000 --> 02:05:33,000
Here we're giving you use an idea of the surrounding zoning noting that see one is currently on the property and again today we're going see the 15 was the idea of restricting the uses a little bit more on the zone.

1341
02:05:34,000 --> 02:05:39,000
Update as mentioned in July was changed from see 10 to see one.

1342
02:05:39,000 --> 02:05:44,000
To support council's feedback we're coming forward today with the comprehensive development zone.

1343
02:05:44,000 --> 02:05:52,000
We're limiting the principal uses to neighborhood scale more which makes it more consistent with that area for the OCP.

1344
02:05:52,000 --> 02:06:04,000
We're trying to change is proposed to set backs on landscaping and then development and other regulations parking height would remain the same as to see one zone.

1345
02:06:04,000 --> 02:06:18,000
This quick little slide I believe was also similar in the report gives you an idea as to the the similarities and differences of the zones with the see see one and CD 15.

1346
02:06:18,000 --> 02:06:22,000
That backs in the landscaping requirements around the property.

1347
02:06:22,000 --> 02:06:36,000
Public engagement the applicant undertook neighborhood consultation and noted they had no feedback received staff completed the statutory notification including hand delivering notices to ads were posted locally.

1348
02:06:36,000 --> 02:06:45,000
And the notice signs were posted on the subject property and public hearing as mentioned was is prohibited for this because it's consistent with the OCP.

1349
02:06:45,000 --> 02:06:50,000
So today we are recommending that council.

1350
02:06:50,000 --> 02:06:53,000
Consider zoning amendments.

1351
02:06:53,000 --> 02:06:55,000
That 0 0 0 0 0 3 4 5.

1352
02:06:55,000 --> 02:07:00,000
Vala 1 2 5 2 be read a first second and third time.

1353
02:07:00,000 --> 02:07:04,000
So if there's any questions hopefully try to answer those for you.

1354
02:07:04,000 --> 02:07:10,000
Thank you questions council.

1355
02:07:11,000 --> 02:07:20,000
Thank you I just have a quick winner of the CD 15 says license the non license food establishments.

1356
02:07:20,000 --> 02:07:23,000
What is non license food.

1357
02:07:23,000 --> 02:07:30,000
It would be licenses usually related to the liquor liquor liquor liquor like McDonald subway non license typically.

1358
02:07:30,000 --> 02:07:44,000
That hamburger does not have a license.

1359
02:07:44,000 --> 02:07:51,000
Thank you Mr. Mayor and thank you director for the presentation just a process thing.

1360
02:07:52,000 --> 02:07:58,000
I noticed we public hearing is exempted under the local government action for 64.

1361
02:07:58,000 --> 02:08:12,000
Line closed three and in there it says where the residential development residential element accounts for at least half of the gross floor area of all the buildings and structures.

1362
02:08:13,000 --> 02:08:34,000
I just noticed that when we're talking about mixed use we set parameters for the commercial use and that's a minimum not maximum but we don't set any parameters to make it complete that we guarantee that we're going to get 50% or more of the gross floor area as residential.

1363
02:08:34,000 --> 02:08:44,000
I just wanted to say that we're going to get 50% of the residents in order to comply with that local government act and the intent is that it would be predominantly for what's been presented to council.

1364
02:08:44,000 --> 02:08:46,000
Residents George is fantastic.

1365
02:08:46,000 --> 02:08:49,000
But CA okay answer that it's a good question.

1366
02:08:49,000 --> 02:09:01,000
One is we would kick it back at the building permanent days and said you have not met your requirements under local government act to being 50% so you have to go back and do it as a rezoning you can't skip over a process.

1367
02:09:01,000 --> 02:09:08,000
I hope our building inspectors and other listening but they would also check to make sure that they've met the requirement.

1368
02:09:08,000 --> 02:09:20,000
There's also a referral process that goes through planning and they all have to sign off on as well so we wouldn't issue the permit if they didn't meet the requirements to be exempt.

1369
02:09:20,000 --> 02:09:36,000
But it's not quite as straightforward as it being in the zoning change or in a common enter a statement when we adopt it that we say and it's it's reliant on internal processes picking up that this one.

1370
02:09:36,000 --> 02:09:44,000
However many years ago got skipped over because of the local government's act I just wanted to weather it would be an easier thing to motion it.

1371
02:09:44,000 --> 02:09:56,000
I don't think so because again what we worry about is if the problems comes in change rules yet again and this government seems to just hear local government we're changing the rules these are new requirements.

1372
02:09:56,000 --> 02:10:11,000
And then we have bylaws that don't comply with things are regulated provincially so setting a minimum percentage that lines up with a regulation the province just put in to be exempt from public hearings.

1373
02:10:11,000 --> 02:10:18,000
I wouldn't advise that because they change all sorts of things in notification requirements all the time.

1374
02:10:18,000 --> 02:10:30,000
So I would let the provincial regulations carry on and we have a pretty diligent building inspection team and planning team that go through and check this.

1375
02:10:30,000 --> 02:10:39,000
So if the province change the regulation to 75% and this haven't gone through building permit it would have to be compliant with a 75% is up.

1376
02:10:39,000 --> 02:10:44,000
No at the time that it received zoning if it complied with the rules.

1377
02:10:44,000 --> 02:10:52,000
So right now if they go through and they submit a building permit application and they don't meet the minimum 50% priority.

1378
02:10:52,000 --> 02:10:58,000
We would reject that because they haven't met the procedural requirements under adopting that zone.

1379
02:10:58,000 --> 02:10:59,000
Okay.

1380
02:10:59,000 --> 02:11:03,000
Is that something the planning department and building department work together.

1381
02:11:03,000 --> 02:11:04,000
Yep.

1382
02:11:04,000 --> 02:11:08,000
We'd also be looking at that all under the DP time also.

1383
02:11:08,000 --> 02:11:12,000
Okay. Thank you.

1384
02:11:12,000 --> 02:11:14,000
Councillor Patel.

1385
02:11:14,000 --> 02:11:16,000
Thank you.

1386
02:11:16,000 --> 02:11:19,000
I'm ready to move this.

1387
02:11:19,000 --> 02:11:20,000
Moving this.

1388
02:11:20,000 --> 02:11:21,000
We have a seconder.

1389
02:11:21,000 --> 02:11:23,000
Councillor Lewis.

1390
02:11:23,000 --> 02:11:25,000
Any more discussion?

1391
02:11:25,000 --> 02:11:27,000
All those in favor?

1392
02:11:27,000 --> 02:11:29,000
Not opposed motion carries.

1393
02:11:29,000 --> 02:11:32,000
Thank you.

1394
02:11:32,000 --> 02:11:34,000
7.4.

1395
02:11:34,000 --> 02:11:41,000
Mr. Mayor item 7.4 is a rezoning application for 3551 and 3583 Woodstale Road.

1396
02:11:41,000 --> 02:11:46,000
This item is being presented by Jeremy Freckhardt director of development approvals.

1397
02:11:46,000 --> 02:11:51,000
And this is another application that has been advertised as public hearing prohibited.

1398
02:11:51,000 --> 02:11:54,000
So no public comment is permitted on this item.

1399
02:11:54,000 --> 02:11:56,000
One time no see.

1400
02:11:56,000 --> 02:11:58,000
Stuck with me again.

1401
02:11:58,000 --> 02:12:00,000
A couple more still.

1402
02:12:01,000 --> 02:12:07,000
As mentioned, we're here today again to speak about zoning 0 0 0 0 337,

1403
02:12:07,000 --> 02:12:11,000
which is for 3551 and 3583 Woodstale Road.

1404
02:12:11,000 --> 02:12:16,000
We're looking to rezone the property from our U1 to RM5.

1405
02:12:16,000 --> 02:12:19,000
Where we're at in the process today.

1406
02:12:19,000 --> 02:12:21,000
Consideration for the zoning application.

1407
02:12:21,000 --> 02:12:23,000
Moving forward if the rezoning is approved.

1408
02:12:23,000 --> 02:12:28,000
We'd be looking at development permit and building permit down the line.

1409
02:12:28,000 --> 02:12:33,000
Once again, location giving the idea where where we are in the district.

1410
02:12:33,000 --> 02:12:36,000
aerial view turned on here.

1411
02:12:36,000 --> 02:12:39,000
Site across from the park there.

1412
02:12:39,000 --> 02:12:45,000
So just to actually east of the last one we discussed.

1413
02:12:45,000 --> 02:12:47,000
Current zoning in the neighborhood.

1414
02:12:47,000 --> 02:12:49,000
The RU1.

1415
02:12:49,000 --> 02:12:55,000
With the future land use being high density, which is consistent with the zoning we're looking at

1416
02:12:55,000 --> 02:12:57,000
at changing to today.

1417
02:12:57,000 --> 02:13:06,000
The analysis that we've put in place for this one that the rezoning and the subject property for the RM5 is consistent with the high density future land use for the OCP.

1418
02:13:06,000 --> 02:13:12,000
Resoning would achieve housing growth and neighborhood planning, OCP goals and objective policies.

1419
02:13:12,000 --> 02:13:21,000
Staff recommend that a covenant be required to support extended servicing improvements to the improvement to the pedestrian connectivity along Woodstale Road.

1420
02:13:21,000 --> 02:13:25,000
I believe I have a slide that I'll show that a little bit clear.

1421
02:13:25,000 --> 02:13:31,000
The covenant would require extended servicing improvements would still run to rest week.

1422
02:13:31,000 --> 02:13:32,000
Resweek.

1423
02:13:32,000 --> 02:13:33,000
Resweek.

1424
02:13:33,000 --> 02:13:40,000
Approximately 60 meters to the west to enable safe pedestrian connection from the development to the pedestrian crossing.

1425
02:13:40,000 --> 02:13:46,000
And the applicant is aware of the covenant and the support of these two items.

1426
02:13:46,000 --> 02:13:50,000
This gives an idea where that 60 meter additional pathway is requested.

1427
02:13:50,000 --> 02:13:54,000
Extending to the west.

1428
02:13:54,000 --> 02:14:03,000
And the applicant for this project on undertook neighborhood consultation and provided a summary to staff, which was included as attachment to the report.

1429
02:14:03,000 --> 02:14:09,000
Staff completed statutory notification and delivery notices again with everything going on.

1430
02:14:09,000 --> 02:14:14,000
Two newspaper ads were posted and no designs were on the subject property.

1431
02:14:14,000 --> 02:14:19,000
And again, as previously mentioned, public hearing prohibited on this project.

1432
02:14:19,000 --> 02:14:23,000
And so today we're recommending a lot.

1433
02:14:23,000 --> 02:14:24,000
Zoning amendments.

1434
02:14:24,000 --> 02:14:35,000
000037 by the 1251 get read a first and second time and that prior to adoption the district secure road dedication along the northern boundaries of both subject properties.

1435
02:14:35,000 --> 02:14:43,000
And that prior to adoption the district secure and extended servicing covenant to allow for offsite pedestrian improvements.

1436
02:14:43,000 --> 02:14:47,000
So if there's any questions, we can try and go over those.

1437
02:14:47,000 --> 02:14:48,000
Thank you very much.

1438
02:14:48,000 --> 02:14:49,000
Councillor Patel.

1439
02:14:49,000 --> 02:14:51,000
Thank you, Mr. Marin.

1440
02:14:51,000 --> 02:14:53,000
Thank you for this presentation.

1441
02:14:53,000 --> 02:14:57,000
Just for clarity is the goal to put a sidewalk.

1442
02:14:57,000 --> 02:15:00,000
The covenant to add a sidewalk or what.

1443
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:05,000
Pass, in front on the north side?

1444
02:15:05,000 --> 02:15:08,000
Yeah, the intent is for a sidewalk to be completed there.

1445
02:15:08,000 --> 02:15:15,000
Would the overall goal to be to extend that a length of woodstale?

1446
02:15:15,000 --> 02:15:17,000
Yes. Yes.

1447
02:15:17,000 --> 02:15:21,000
Would like to guess if I got confirmation, yes.

1448
02:15:21,000 --> 02:15:24,000
Thank you.

1449
02:15:24,000 --> 02:15:26,000
Yes, agreed.

1450
02:15:26,000 --> 02:15:29,000
Thank you, Mr. Mayor, for the presentation.

1451
02:15:30,000 --> 02:15:33,000
This is a super interesting one.

1452
02:15:33,000 --> 02:15:38,000
I have to congratulate the applicant on their documentation that they provided out to the community.

1453
02:15:38,000 --> 02:15:46,000
Having that online view, which would be weren't able to attend, that was fantastic and doesn't always happen.

1454
02:15:46,000 --> 02:15:52,000
So I would like to see more of that for those people who are out of province or out of home.

1455
02:15:52,000 --> 02:15:58,000
I think it's also worth noting that this is the first one I've ever seen come to council.

1456
02:15:58,000 --> 02:16:02,000
Where it has on-site solar photo itself.

1457
02:16:02,000 --> 02:16:09,000
The building is going to be powered by solar, which is meeting some of our climate change goals.

1458
02:16:09,000 --> 02:16:17,000
It's also going to go to step code 4 if the commitment is correct from the applicant that we currently have step code 3 and then building to step code 4.

1459
02:16:17,000 --> 02:16:24,000
You then look at the contents of this building, community space, gym, lounge, games room, study areas and working spaces.

1460
02:16:24,000 --> 02:16:27,000
It's a work through kind of live work community.

1461
02:16:27,000 --> 02:16:34,000
And we've been talking around this for a lot of time and it's really great to see that coming forward.

1462
02:16:34,000 --> 02:16:41,000
I just hope that what's promised on the Woodstale.ca is what gets delivered because it's really exciting.

1463
02:16:41,000 --> 02:16:47,000
My one correct, my two questions are one.

1464
02:16:47,000 --> 02:16:53,000
We're not asking for a lot consolidation because these are two separate lots that are being developed as one.

1465
02:16:53,000 --> 02:17:09,000
So if this falls apart for any reason, do we end up with two individual lots and there's RM4 which could be developed as separate units because the current one is going across it.

1466
02:17:09,000 --> 02:17:13,000
And we're not asking for a lot consolidation as part of the zoning.

1467
02:17:13,000 --> 02:17:21,000
And my second question, I noticed a future one coming down on the agenda has a rental housing agreement.

1468
02:17:21,000 --> 02:17:31,000
Where is this policy proposed or mentioned French rental housing but it's not a commitment to rental housing.

1469
02:17:31,000 --> 02:17:34,000
So I just wondered, are we.

1470
02:17:34,000 --> 02:17:44,000
At the moment of the zoning, we're not saying this definitely has to be rental housing is up to the applicant whether they develop it as market housing or rental housing.

1471
02:17:44,000 --> 02:17:47,000
Yes, one point to clarify, it's RM5.

1472
02:17:47,000 --> 02:17:48,000
Sorry.

1473
02:17:48,000 --> 02:17:49,000
Sorry.

1474
02:17:49,000 --> 02:17:54,000
And yes, at this time there isn't a requirement for rental housing.

1475
02:17:54,000 --> 02:17:59,000
It's, as you noted, the intent of the applicant at this time to follow through with that.

1476
02:17:59,000 --> 02:18:06,000
Either way it would be supported, I believe, by the OCP for the density areas as both are needed at this time.

1477
02:18:06,000 --> 02:18:16,000
But would they get, they're not getting, we're not agreeing to the rental incentive which we are making a definite statement about in a future agenda item.

1478
02:18:16,000 --> 02:18:21,000
Can they come to council and say we want to make this call up right for that?

1479
02:18:21,000 --> 02:18:27,000
Yeah, so at the time they want to consider whether they want the rental incentive is at the time of building program.

1480
02:18:27,000 --> 02:18:30,000
They submit the paperwork in if it's all in place.

1481
02:18:30,000 --> 02:18:35,000
We go forward and then once they get occupancy, goes from there.

1482
02:18:35,000 --> 02:18:41,000
The developers in the audience and I know Jeremy asked if anyone, they can answer any questions if there are sites specific to that.

1483
02:18:41,000 --> 02:18:42,000
Okay.

1484
02:18:42,000 --> 02:18:44,000
And they're allowed to.

1485
02:18:44,000 --> 02:18:51,000
And just on the site consolidation, they can be set up at any point with an RM5 zone on each.

1486
02:18:51,000 --> 02:18:58,000
Oh, jump into that when you're going to get into building code requirements as soon as you run a property line through the middle of a building, you got to build up a firewall.

1487
02:18:58,000 --> 02:19:03,000
So, it's not in their best interest to build a building across a property line.

1488
02:19:03,000 --> 02:19:05,000
It creates other challenges.

1489
02:19:05,000 --> 02:19:08,000
The architects here and I think you need further.

1490
02:19:08,000 --> 02:19:09,000
You can explain.

1491
02:19:09,000 --> 02:19:10,000
Oh, okay.

1492
02:19:15,000 --> 02:19:17,000
So are you prepared to move that when the time comes?

1493
02:19:17,000 --> 02:19:18,000
Yeah.

1494
02:19:18,000 --> 02:19:19,000
Okay.

1495
02:19:19,000 --> 02:19:20,000
There's no other questions.

1496
02:19:20,000 --> 02:19:22,000
Any Councilor?

1497
02:19:22,000 --> 02:19:23,000
Thank you.

1498
02:19:23,000 --> 02:19:26,000
And so just to go back to the sidewalk.

1499
02:19:26,000 --> 02:19:31,000
So the bike lane will be taken away for the sidewalk.

1500
02:19:31,000 --> 02:19:37,000
So there's a bike lane there now that we put in with the new construction.

1501
02:19:38,000 --> 02:19:41,000
Yeah.

1502
02:19:41,000 --> 02:19:42,000
So the chair.

1503
02:19:42,000 --> 02:19:47,000
So that the ultimate plan for woods though is for that southern side to mirror the non-side.

1504
02:19:47,000 --> 02:19:49,000
So obviously it's been phase at the moment.

1505
02:19:49,000 --> 02:19:53,000
So yes, there will be sidewalk going continuously down woods though with the by the lane.

1506
02:19:53,000 --> 02:19:54,000
Also.

1507
02:19:54,000 --> 02:19:55,000
So the bike.

1508
02:19:55,000 --> 02:19:56,000
So.

1509
02:19:56,000 --> 02:19:57,000
Sorry.

1510
02:19:57,000 --> 02:19:58,000
The bike on tired.

1511
02:19:58,000 --> 02:20:00,000
The bike lane.

1512
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:03,000
We'll be the sidewalk.

1513
02:20:03,000 --> 02:20:04,000
Just run that by me again.

1514
02:20:04,000 --> 02:20:05,000
Sorry.

1515
02:20:05,000 --> 02:20:06,000
And I'll let you listen.

1516
02:20:07,000 --> 02:20:09,000
So they will be covered just like the other side of the right.

1517
02:20:09,000 --> 02:20:10,000
Because haven't got to.

1518
02:20:10,000 --> 02:20:11,000
And then they'll be a bike.

1519
02:20:11,000 --> 02:20:12,000
So bike lane.

1520
02:20:12,000 --> 02:20:14,000
Carbon got to sidewalk.

1521
02:20:14,000 --> 02:20:15,000
Okay.

1522
02:20:15,000 --> 02:20:16,000
And I just have a comment.

1523
02:20:16,000 --> 02:20:17,000
And you're not going to like it.

1524
02:20:17,000 --> 02:20:18,000
But it's just about the parking.

1525
02:20:18,000 --> 02:20:20,000
I worry about that area.

1526
02:20:20,000 --> 02:20:21,000
It's got so much going.

1527
02:20:21,000 --> 02:20:24,000
We're going to have parking back into the tennis courts again.

1528
02:20:24,000 --> 02:20:25,000
So.

1529
02:20:25,000 --> 02:20:26,000
That's my comment.

1530
02:20:26,000 --> 02:20:27,000
Thank you.

1531
02:20:29,000 --> 02:20:30,000
See you.

1532
02:20:30,000 --> 02:20:31,000
No other questions.

1533
02:20:31,000 --> 02:20:32,000
We have a mover.

1534
02:20:32,000 --> 02:20:33,000
Do we have a seconder?

1535
02:20:33,000 --> 02:20:34,000
Councilor Brett seconds out.

1536
02:20:34,000 --> 02:20:35,000
Any further discussion?

1537
02:20:36,000 --> 02:20:37,000
Seeing no more discussion.

1538
02:20:37,000 --> 02:20:38,000
All those in favor.

1539
02:20:38,000 --> 02:20:41,000
Then opposed motion carries.

1540
02:20:41,000 --> 02:20:42,000
Great.

1541
02:20:42,000 --> 02:20:44,000
It looks like a really great project.

1542
02:20:44,000 --> 02:20:45,000
Down that in the town.

1543
02:20:45,000 --> 02:20:46,000
So.

1544
02:20:46,000 --> 02:20:47,000
Exciting.

1545
02:20:50,000 --> 02:20:51,000
Corporate.

1546
02:20:51,000 --> 02:20:52,000
Do you have a.

1547
02:20:52,000 --> 02:20:54,000
Are you just watching number.

1548
02:20:54,000 --> 02:20:55,000
7.4.

1549
02:20:55,000 --> 02:20:57,000
Just getting ready for.

1550
02:20:57,000 --> 02:20:58,000
7.5.

1551
02:20:58,000 --> 02:20:59,000
Oh god.

1552
02:20:59,000 --> 02:21:00,000
I'm losing track.

1553
02:21:00,000 --> 02:21:01,000
Thank you.

1554
02:21:01,000 --> 02:21:02,000
Mr. Mayor.

1555
02:21:02,000 --> 02:21:04,000
Item 7.5 is zoning by law.

1556
02:21:04,000 --> 02:21:07,000
Amendment at 114.

1557
02:21:07,000 --> 02:21:08,000
7.4.

1558
02:21:08,000 --> 02:21:10,000
Petri road.

1559
02:21:10,000 --> 02:21:12,000
And again presented by our director of development

1560
02:21:12,000 --> 02:21:13,000
Approvals.

1561
02:21:13,000 --> 02:21:15,000
And once again.

1562
02:21:15,000 --> 02:21:16,000
This is a.

1563
02:21:16,000 --> 02:21:17,000
A zoning amendment.

1564
02:21:17,000 --> 02:21:18,000
We're public hearing.

1565
02:21:18,000 --> 02:21:19,000
But it's.

1566
02:21:19,000 --> 02:21:20,000
It's.

1567
02:21:20,000 --> 02:21:21,000
It's.

1568
02:21:21,000 --> 02:21:22,000
It's.

1569
02:21:22,000 --> 02:21:23,000
It's.

1570
02:21:23,000 --> 02:21:24,000
It's.

1571
02:21:24,000 --> 02:21:25,000
It's.

1572
02:21:25,000 --> 02:21:26,000
It's.

1573
02:21:26,000 --> 02:21:27,000
It's.

1574
02:21:27,000 --> 02:21:28,000
It's.

1575
02:21:28,000 --> 02:21:29,000
It's.

1576
02:21:29,000 --> 02:21:30,000
It's.

1577
02:21:31,000 --> 02:21:33,000
One one four seven four Petri road.

1578
02:21:33,000 --> 02:21:34,000
Um.

1579
02:21:34,000 --> 02:21:36,000
You guys are.

1580
02:21:36,000 --> 02:21:38,000
Believe familiar with this site.

1581
02:21:38,000 --> 02:21:40,000
We've talked about it before for the eastern portion.

1582
02:21:40,000 --> 02:21:41,000
The in the airport insight.

1583
02:21:41,000 --> 02:21:43,000
This is the western portion today.

1584
02:21:43,000 --> 02:21:44,000
That is.

1585
02:21:44,000 --> 02:21:46,000
Across the street.

1586
02:21:46,000 --> 02:21:47,000
As.

1587
02:21:47,000 --> 02:21:49,000
Previous to this process.

1588
02:21:49,000 --> 02:21:52,000
The public notifications were completed today.

1589
02:21:52,000 --> 02:21:57,000
We're here to talk about first second third reading of trying to get the property.

1590
02:21:57,000 --> 02:21:59,000
Again on the west portion to from our you.

1591
02:21:59,000 --> 02:22:02,000
To from our you one to our m two.

1592
02:22:02,000 --> 02:22:05,000
Um, assuming all that goes through well.

1593
02:22:05,000 --> 02:22:07,000
And the rezoning conditions are met.

1594
02:22:07,000 --> 02:22:11,000
That staff will work with the applicant to prepare for final adoption.

1595
02:22:11,000 --> 02:22:16,000
We'll have a development permit process and then building permits down the line.

1596
02:22:16,000 --> 02:22:17,000
Again, cross area.

1597
02:22:17,000 --> 02:22:20,000
We're looking at is the old airport insight.

1598
02:22:20,000 --> 02:22:23,000
We're looking specifically today at the western portion of it.

1599
02:22:24,000 --> 02:22:28,000
Um, that faces on Petri and Robinson road.

1600
02:22:28,000 --> 02:22:34,000
Um, orthophoto again, a little bit closer showing the vacant site.

1601
02:22:34,000 --> 02:22:38,000
Um, some site photos showing fairly.

1602
02:22:38,000 --> 02:22:41,000
Gently steep site.

1603
02:22:41,000 --> 02:22:48,000
Um, and then various use from the property around the site.

1604
02:22:48,000 --> 02:22:52,000
Official community plan shows the uses in the area.

1605
02:22:53,000 --> 02:23:02,000
Um, OCP in this specific area encourages incorporating townhouses and row housing into existing neighborhoods where appropriate.

1606
02:23:02,000 --> 02:23:08,000
Our OCP designates the future land use of the property urban residential and further the OCP encourages incorporating town homes.

1607
02:23:08,000 --> 02:23:10,000
Desnoted in existing neighborhoods.

1608
02:23:10,000 --> 02:23:15,000
The subject property is located in a wind field neighborhood.

1609
02:23:15,000 --> 02:23:23,000
And the vision for these wind field neighborhoods in the OCP goals is to improve infrastructure and increase the residential density in the existing neighborhoods.

1610
02:23:23,000 --> 02:23:33,000
In addition to the OCP policy policy for the district housing needs report and 233 underscore the community need for all forms of unit house multi unit housing.

1611
02:23:33,000 --> 02:23:39,000
Again, just showing the current zoning in the area with mostly the RU one zones around it.

1612
02:23:39,000 --> 02:23:45,000
The C9's specifically was re done recently.

1613
02:23:45,000 --> 02:23:54,000
Permitted uses in the RM2 zone include multi dwellings, singles, duplexes, town homes.

1614
02:23:54,000 --> 02:23:58,000
And secondaries are care centers home occupation.

1615
02:23:58,000 --> 02:24:02,000
Yeah, utility services.

1616
02:24:02,000 --> 02:24:14,000
Site servicing in the area at the time of development provisions the services required will be water sanitary and urban street improvements.

1617
02:24:14,000 --> 02:24:26,000
For public consultation properties within a hundred meters have been of the subject property have been given notice on site development signs have been done by the applicant the district has.

1618
02:24:26,000 --> 02:24:35,000
And two consecutive issues of the local newspaper development notice letters for hundred properties have been handed out.

1619
02:24:35,000 --> 02:24:41,000
And public correspondence received has been forwarded to council as part of the report.

1620
02:24:41,000 --> 02:24:53,000
And today, a bunch of that's recommending that zoning amendment 0000328 by law 1254 be read first second and third time.

1621
02:24:53,000 --> 02:25:03,000
And that prior to adoption the applicant enter into a rental housing agreement with the district to secure rental units on the subject properties for minimum of 10 years.

1622
02:25:03,000 --> 02:25:16,000
And that prior to adoption the district secure road dedication of 10 meters from the existing center line of pretty road and an emergency vehicle turnaround in the north end of Petri road.

1623
02:25:17,000 --> 02:25:19,000
There's any questions.

1624
02:25:19,000 --> 02:25:21,000
Happy to try and answer.

1625
02:25:21,000 --> 02:25:22,000
Sorry.

1626
02:25:22,000 --> 02:25:24,000
Thank you Mr. Mayor.

1627
02:25:24,000 --> 02:25:26,000
So just looking at the site map.

1628
02:25:26,000 --> 02:25:29,000
This property fronts pretty road and Robinson road.

1629
02:25:29,000 --> 02:25:32,000
It doesn't touch Petri road.

1630
02:25:32,000 --> 02:25:35,000
So I don't want to approve the wrong address.

1631
02:25:35,000 --> 02:25:37,000
It's still technically one site.

1632
02:25:37,000 --> 02:25:39,000
It's a hooked property at this time.

1633
02:25:39,000 --> 02:25:41,000
So it's dual zone.

1634
02:25:41,000 --> 02:25:46,000
So like legally through subdivision, it's still one parcel.

1635
02:25:46,000 --> 02:25:50,000
Oh, I see one one four seven four is both.

1636
02:25:50,000 --> 02:25:51,000
Yeah.

1637
02:25:51,000 --> 02:25:52,000
Okay.

1638
02:25:52,000 --> 02:25:53,000
Interesting.

1639
02:25:53,000 --> 02:25:58,000
But in this case, we're just approving that small section.

1640
02:25:58,000 --> 02:26:00,000
The zoning for just the western portion of it.

1641
02:26:00,000 --> 02:26:01,000
Okay.

1642
02:26:01,000 --> 02:26:02,000
Interesting.

1643
02:26:02,000 --> 02:26:03,000
Okay. Thanks.

1644
02:26:03,000 --> 02:26:04,000
Just want to clear that out.

1645
02:26:04,000 --> 02:26:07,000
Make sure we're not approving the wrong property.

1646
02:26:07,000 --> 02:26:09,000
Council Brett.

1647
02:26:09,000 --> 02:26:11,000
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

1648
02:26:11,000 --> 02:26:15,000
Just a question around the and that statements.

1649
02:26:15,000 --> 02:26:18,000
I think in the past who said through covenant.

1650
02:26:18,000 --> 02:26:30,000
Is that implied here or is that is a separate agreement with the district to secure those items?

1651
02:26:30,000 --> 02:26:31,000
Sorry.

1652
02:26:31,000 --> 02:26:33,000
Were you talking second or third item?

1653
02:26:33,000 --> 02:26:36,000
Both have and that statements.

1654
02:26:36,000 --> 02:26:40,000
The rental housing agreement and the debt road dedication.

1655
02:26:40,000 --> 02:26:44,000
Typically, that would be secured through covenant and as prior to adoption.

1656
02:26:44,000 --> 02:26:48,000
So we'd have to satisfy, however, that's done prior to bringing it forward again.

1657
02:26:48,000 --> 02:26:52,000
And same with the road dedication, they'd have to satisfy the engineering department that that's

1658
02:26:52,000 --> 02:26:56,000
either agreed to or done prior to bringing it forward for adoption.

1659
02:26:56,000 --> 02:26:59,000
Okay. Great. Thank you.

1660
02:27:00,000 --> 02:27:02,000
That's the urban.

1661
02:27:02,000 --> 02:27:03,000
Thank you.

1662
02:27:03,000 --> 02:27:05,000
So what happens then?

1663
02:27:05,000 --> 02:27:07,000
With the address.

1664
02:27:07,000 --> 02:27:10,000
So if there's airport in and then this property.

1665
02:27:10,000 --> 02:27:13,000
So it will their mail will go to.

1666
02:27:13,000 --> 02:27:14,000
No.

1667
02:27:14,000 --> 02:27:15,000
Airport in.

1668
02:27:15,000 --> 02:27:19,000
The the addressing by loss should have gotten into great details with ours yet.

1669
02:27:19,000 --> 02:27:21,000
But it identifies.

1670
02:27:21,000 --> 02:27:23,000
The addressing for buildings.

1671
02:27:23,000 --> 02:27:26,000
So the typically vacant parcels don't carry in and dress.

1672
02:27:26,000 --> 02:27:32,000
This one, that's why this vacant parcel carries the address of the main parcel because it doesn't have buildings on it.

1673
02:27:32,000 --> 02:27:36,000
Once the new buildings are constructed, they would be addressed facing whatever street through

1674
02:27:36,000 --> 02:27:37,000
Act typically access stuff.

1675
02:27:37,000 --> 02:27:38,000
It makes more sense.

1676
02:27:38,000 --> 02:27:39,000
Yeah.

1677
02:27:39,000 --> 02:27:45,000
And then I was told by the neighbors up top that that property has a natural spring.

1678
02:27:45,000 --> 02:27:48,000
And that's why it hasn't been developed so far.

1679
02:27:48,000 --> 02:27:49,000
I don't know if that's true.

1680
02:27:49,000 --> 02:27:53,000
Does a hydrologist come out somewhere along this way?

1681
02:27:53,000 --> 02:27:57,000
It would typically be considered by the geotech through the building permit face.

1682
02:27:57,000 --> 02:28:00,000
So they'd have to consider any onsite water issues in that type of stuff.

1683
02:28:00,000 --> 02:28:01,000
OK.

1684
02:28:01,000 --> 02:28:02,000
Thank you.

1685
02:28:02,000 --> 02:28:04,000
Professor Reed.

1686
02:28:04,000 --> 02:28:05,000
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

1687
02:28:05,000 --> 02:28:07,000
And thank you for the presentation.

1688
02:28:07,000 --> 02:28:11,000
Just a couple two questions.

1689
02:28:11,000 --> 02:28:17,000
The rental agreement we've gone for 10 years, which is the same term as the exemption.

1690
02:28:17,000 --> 02:28:21,000
So after 10 years of no property tax.

1691
02:28:21,000 --> 02:28:28,000
The developer can then remove the rental requirement and sell the houses.

1692
02:28:28,000 --> 02:28:33,000
I'm just wondering what was the reason for aligning it so closely with the incentive rather than

1693
02:28:33,000 --> 02:28:39,000
asking for maybe 15 years, which would give five years of rental accommodation.

1694
02:28:39,000 --> 02:28:44,000
After the protect the five years of rental condition.

1695
02:28:44,000 --> 02:28:46,000
I'm going to defer to Brian on this.

1696
02:28:46,000 --> 02:28:49,000
OK.

1697
02:28:49,000 --> 02:28:53,000
Thank you through the chair to Councillor Reed.

1698
02:28:53,000 --> 02:29:05,000
The purpose of the the covenant to secure rental housing for a 10 year period was in recognition of the council policy to streamline development

1699
02:29:05,000 --> 02:29:09,000
processing and review when attainable housing is provided or considered.

1700
02:29:09,000 --> 02:29:17,000
So in this case the applicant proposed a multi-family rezoning application that would include residential housing on the property.

1701
02:29:17,000 --> 02:29:24,000
So that securing that form of housing that tenure of housing for a 10 year period is what staff recommends in order

1702
02:29:24,000 --> 02:29:31,000
for them to their application to be fast tracked or process ahead of where it would have fallen otherwise in the queue.

1703
02:29:31,000 --> 02:29:32,000
OK.

1704
02:29:32,000 --> 02:29:42,000
So it's limited to moving ahead, moving their application ahead or that review ahead of other applications that would have been received at about the same time.

1705
02:29:42,000 --> 02:29:52,000
So that's the ask that they made and that would be that commensurate kind of trade with the benefit they got in jumping the queue.

1706
02:29:52,000 --> 02:29:56,000
So they could have chosen to wait and to not secure a covenant at that point.

1707
02:29:56,000 --> 02:29:59,000
They would be asking council to resolve the property.

1708
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:04,260
Ma'n nifer'n Lyd�, padd i'n ei'n o treif.

1709
02:30:04,260 --> 02:30:08,060
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1710
02:30:08,060 --> 02:30:11,020
o'r reŵn, o'r reŵn myn ym fwygu, o'r reŵn, o'r reŵn i'r gweld yn bym twaeth.

1711
02:30:11,520 --> 02:30:17,900
Osb yn ydych yr rwmsch Llyd i'r cynru deithaeth Ogubmyd, on fyhaiau, ondych g erwys'n

1712
02:30:17,900 --> 02:30:25,780
J vista, ond 아무wn j کو sy aboutem yn argym'r iawn o eithfysdинch'n twaneod.

1713
02:30:25,800 --> 02:30:29,420
Ond yster ysey a Fergus o'r cycliciwh диw ni yn ffysdod ni ym'n wthintaddu gy Achilw thigwnei

1714
02:30:29,420 --> 02:30:36,220
rynstwy hwn o'r werieni yn ares phasiol godysg alor o'n sagdai cyfysd,

1715
02:30:36,240 --> 02:30:40,220
o onzeeeeei flux i rynndwill d Facega wor honny yr g hadn �hedfys.

1716
02:30:40,220 --> 02:30:42,780
Dyllawn, mae ei ein cwrfydos.

1717
02:30:42,780 --> 02:30:44,420
Bygdyl, bdwrwch syfysdadad do oydd o'u gwiddza.

1718
02:30:44,420 --> 02:30:47,340
2.

1719
02:30:47,340 --> 02:30:48,340
Arreddi.

1720
02:30:48,340 --> 02:30:50,340
Iw caes delectifwydd, 2021.

1721
02:30:50,340 --> 02:30:53,020
Y'n ddefydn ynig ffwrdd arfawn, ynaid ffwrd.

1722
02:30:53,020 --> 02:30:56,420
E'n ddefydn yn gracias, oedd yn defydn yn yn yn defydn yn ddefydn.

1723
02:30:56,420 --> 02:30:58,420
I'm not a pols motion carries.

1724
02:30:58,420 --> 02:31:00,420
Thank you very much.

1725
02:31:02,420 --> 02:31:04,420
We're going to take a short break.

1726
02:31:04,420 --> 02:31:06,420
I'm going to break ya.

1727
02:31:26,420 --> 02:31:28,420
I'm going to take a short break.

1728
02:31:56,420 --> 02:31:58,420
I'm going to take a short break.

1729
02:32:26,420 --> 02:32:30,420
I'm going to take a short break.

1730
02:32:56,420 --> 02:33:00,420
I'm going to take a short break.

1731
02:33:26,420 --> 02:33:30,420
I'm going to take a short break.

1732
02:33:56,420 --> 02:34:00,420
I'm going to take a short break.

1733
02:34:26,420 --> 02:34:30,420
I'm going to take a short break.

1734
02:34:56,420 --> 02:35:00,420
I'm going to take a short break.

1735
02:35:26,420 --> 02:35:30,420
I'm going to take a short break.

1736
02:35:56,420 --> 02:36:00,420
I'm going to take a short break.

1737
02:36:26,420 --> 02:36:30,420
I'm going to take a short break.

1738
02:36:56,420 --> 02:37:00,420
I'm going to take a short break.

1739
02:37:26,420 --> 02:37:30,420
I'm going to take a short break.

1740
02:37:56,420 --> 02:38:00,420
I'm going to take a short break.

1741
02:38:26,420 --> 02:38:30,420
I'm going to take a short break.

1742
02:38:56,420 --> 02:39:00,420
I'm going to take a short break.

1743
02:39:26,420 --> 02:39:30,420
I'm going to take a short break.

1744
02:39:56,420 --> 02:40:00,420
I'm going to take a short break.

1745
02:40:26,420 --> 02:40:30,420
I'm going to take a short break.

1746
02:40:56,420 --> 02:41:00,420
I'm going to take a short break.

1747
02:41:26,420 --> 02:41:30,420
I'm going to take a short break.

1748
02:41:56,420 --> 02:42:00,420
I'm going to take a short break.

1749
02:42:26,420 --> 02:42:44,420
I'm going to take a short break.

1750
02:42:44,420 --> 02:42:49,220
Yw'r gwnaud yn yw'r gwnaud.

1751
02:42:49,220 --> 02:42:51,380
Leithus yn yw'r gwnaud.

1752
02:42:51,380 --> 02:42:57,080
Oedd yw'r gwnaud, ddwygr, Iwaithus, gynneau a mov yn ddwygr,

1753
02:42:57,080 --> 02:43:06,560
ei yw'r gwnaud, ddwygr, m廖b'r gwnaud.

1754
02:43:06,560 --> 02:43:11,160
Wydw'r gwnaud i'r gwnaud yw'r gwnaud.

1755
02:43:11,160 --> 02:43:14,140
Gwyllaithus, gynneau y gwnaud,ogd naud yn barthu.

1756
02:43:14,140 --> 02:43:43,900
Fellyw'n bod Fellyw'n fraith想

1757
02:43:44,140 --> 02:44:07,980
Mae

1758
02:44:07,980 --> 02:44:22,920
contraurs yn yma'r gweldol gydaed yn y cyndt, a'r gorwedd o dynd yn ymerliad ac yn yma'r gweldol, o gallol, yma'r gweldol, o llodd yma'r gweldol, o gallol, o gallol, o gallol yma'r gweldol.

1759
02:44:22,920 --> 02:44:28,000
Irceau y Me betternyft a Plo ridicur.

1760
02:44:28,000 --> 02:44:31,500
Ave'r Oriemgen, a Plo farmer cumper dnes matingch sut ti'n lle i huni Vaistferaschgi no gini byl.

1761
02:44:31,500 --> 02:44:36,720
Yoio gyloop, i y Y T Washas yn mynd eu i mードu, stu i'n lle 제 dhat!

1762
02:44:36,720 --> 02:44:43,200
I detotat羢 o'r d eyesres, a Plo firm commission i'n pwy gweth mynd yn nireddio.

1763
02:44:43,200 --> 02:44:50,440
Fraus yn fathens nhw'ngetch i Diw жизwiedan 사용 farcharia a heran, ddim to,

1764
02:44:50,440 --> 02:44:51,880
modelau rhywens.

1765
02:44:51,880 --> 02:44:59,800
I diadêm pr yn sy fifliweth earb yn rheud eu rhaud ymntig eisiau ognol.

1766
02:44:59,800 --> 02:45:03,940
Frythys opcaw 구독.

1767
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:13,000
Image gives you an idea of the purple being our current sewer service overlay, and the dark blueish line is our current.

1768
02:45:13,000 --> 02:45:17,000
Yes, urban containment boundary. Thank you.

1769
02:45:17,000 --> 02:45:21,000
So we're just, the intent is to try to line those two.

1770
02:45:21,000 --> 02:45:27,000
When the mapping was done, I believe back in 2016 or so, it was close, but didn't,

1771
02:45:27,000 --> 02:45:35,000
but didn't, it didn't include this small portion. There are a couple other areas within the district that will be looked at in our next OCP update.

1772
02:45:35,000 --> 02:45:46,000
But this one being that we have some interest in some development in this area, seem reasonable to bring it forward to council at this time to try and help move everything forward.

1773
02:45:47,000 --> 02:46:07,000
So today, one last big staff recommendation that the official community plan, OCP, 006061, and by law 1263, we read a first time that that same official community plan by law 1263, be considered in conjunction with the district's financial plan and waste management plans,

1774
02:46:07,000 --> 02:46:19,000
and that the official community plan be amended and read for a second time, and finally that the official community plan before the public hearing.

1775
02:46:19,000 --> 02:46:27,000
So if council wishes, we will try and answer any questions you have on this one.

1776
02:46:28,000 --> 02:46:46,000
Thank you, Mr. Mayor. So this amendment is happening to the existing OCP and my understanding is we are still reviewing the OCP, so just this is crystal clear to me, is that this change is now and then the whole thing will be reviewed.

1777
02:46:46,000 --> 02:46:48,000
Next year. Yes.

1778
02:46:48,000 --> 02:46:51,000
Can not happen quicker. Sorry.

1779
02:46:52,000 --> 02:46:55,000
Thank you.

1780
02:46:55,000 --> 02:46:59,000
Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Two two questions, one is kind of a follow-on from Councilor Brett.

1781
02:46:59,000 --> 02:47:20,000
That's a question. Obviously, this is being put forward outside of the OCP process, and I'm assuming given that there are other properties in the same situation that they would have the opportunity to come before council and make the same request or are they restricted to wait for the OCP process, which will take whatever 24 months.

1782
02:47:21,000 --> 02:47:36,000
No, they wouldn't necessarily be restricted for the process. This at this time we don't have other applications or interest on the other properties, so it made sense being that a few of these have had inquiries on them that we figured we would bring it forward now.

1783
02:47:36,000 --> 02:47:41,000
But if there were other properties in the same situation, they would have the same opportunities to.

1784
02:47:41,000 --> 02:47:44,000
I would give the same consideration. Fantastic. Thank you.

1785
02:47:44,000 --> 02:47:54,000
And my second question is, are these properties on water like municipal water?

1786
02:47:54,000 --> 02:48:13,000
The reason I ask is, just because of the multi unit small, you know, housing requirements say they have to be on municipal infrastructure, so it would just give an indication as to whether this is opening up that area for that opportunity, if there already on water, this would be the final.

1787
02:48:14,000 --> 02:48:15,000
Line.

1788
02:48:19,000 --> 02:48:21,000
Can you get aided on this one?

1789
02:48:24,000 --> 02:48:25,000
Did we confirm?

1790
02:48:28,000 --> 02:48:36,000
Through the chair, so it's being formed by the manager there, that's yeah, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, we're winning the water.

1791
02:48:36,000 --> 02:48:40,000
So if they wanted to connect to water, they.

1792
02:48:40,000 --> 02:48:47,000
So if they wanted to connect to water, they would have the developer would have to pay to bring the line across.

1793
02:48:47,000 --> 02:48:53,000
Yeah, so, so both water and so we'd have to be extended to set this as properties. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

1794
02:48:55,000 --> 02:48:58,000
Any other questions?

1795
02:48:59,000 --> 02:49:00,000
Seeing no more questions, great.

1796
02:49:00,000 --> 02:49:02,000
Motion. Councilor McKenzie, you are moving.

1797
02:49:03,000 --> 02:49:08,000
Staff recommendation. Councilor, if in your second thing that any further questions.

1798
02:49:09,000 --> 02:49:10,000
All those in favor.

1799
02:49:11,000 --> 02:49:13,000
Not opposed motion carries. Thank you.

1800
02:49:13,000 --> 02:49:14,000
Thank you.

1801
02:49:14,000 --> 02:49:16,000
Let me get Mr. Lewis back in.

1802
02:49:30,000 --> 02:49:34,000
Okay. We finally get to change numbers to 8.1.

1803
02:49:36,000 --> 02:49:44,000
Thank you, Mr. Mayor, item 8.1 is our 2025 early approval of capital staffing requests in this item.

1804
02:49:44,000 --> 02:49:49,000
We'll be presented by our development approvals manager. No, just kidding.

1805
02:49:49,000 --> 02:49:54,000
It'll be our director of finance to change things up for the evening.

1806
02:49:54,000 --> 02:49:57,000
He's on a roll. He might as well just keep going, right?

1807
02:49:58,000 --> 02:49:59,000
Nice right.

1808
02:50:06,000 --> 02:50:08,000
All right. Good evening, Mayor and council.

1809
02:50:09,000 --> 02:50:13,000
I dominated the mic last time, so it's good someone else got a chance.

1810
02:50:14,000 --> 02:50:18,000
So here for 2025 early approvals.

1811
02:50:18,000 --> 02:50:20,000
A little bit different in the prior years.

1812
02:50:20,000 --> 02:50:26,000
We decided to put this two weeks after the first three in the budget, just so that we'd have some time for

1813
02:50:26,000 --> 02:50:33,000
any sort of public, public engagement and let's talk and so far from what I've seen.

1814
02:50:33,000 --> 02:50:40,000
I haven't seen any specific comments or questions around these specific projects that I'll present here.

1815
02:50:40,000 --> 02:50:53,000
But a few years back, we had a successful campaign where we had this mascot for the forge or

1816
02:50:53,000 --> 02:50:55,000
all men and show women.

1817
02:50:55,000 --> 02:50:56,000
Yeah, bigger.

1818
02:50:56,000 --> 02:50:58,000
A couple of years kids, but he wasn't real.

1819
02:50:58,000 --> 02:51:08,000
It's actually a matator and suit, but anyway, I was, I didn't tell Matt this ahead of time,

1820
02:51:08,000 --> 02:51:14,000
but he's actually going to be the mascot to help me with this presentation too for what?

1821
02:51:14,000 --> 02:51:20,000
So I'm going to be introducing Earl E approval.

1822
02:51:21,000 --> 02:51:26,000
The mascot that will inform you why we asked for early approval and certain things.

1823
02:51:28,000 --> 02:51:30,000
And Matt will dress up as that later.

1824
02:51:30,000 --> 02:51:35,000
I don't know what's at some sort of bread or toast or the Grinch dressed up as toast.

1825
02:51:35,000 --> 02:51:38,000
So why do we do early approvals?

1826
02:51:38,000 --> 02:51:45,000
So one of the main reasons is to start the request for proposal process early on our large capital projects.

1827
02:51:45,000 --> 02:51:48,000
We find we get more bids, more competitive pricing.

1828
02:51:48,000 --> 02:51:52,000
It helps align better with the timing delivering our projects.

1829
02:51:52,000 --> 02:51:56,000
And it also helps with some of the supply chain issues that we've seen.

1830
02:51:56,000 --> 02:51:58,000
That's one big reason.

1831
02:51:58,000 --> 02:52:01,000
It helps spread out projects throughout the year.

1832
02:52:01,000 --> 02:52:05,000
So we have small mighty teams that are delivering significant projects.

1833
02:52:05,000 --> 02:52:11,000
So it helps manage the workload better than just waiting until March and doing everything all at once.

1834
02:52:11,000 --> 02:52:14,000
That's on the capital side.

1835
02:52:14,000 --> 02:52:29,000
When it comes to staff positions, it allows HR to start recruiting the recruiting process earlier maximizes the chances strong candidates and just spreads HR capacity throughout the year as well.

1836
02:52:29,000 --> 02:52:36,000
This is the list that is in the report in your package and these are all projects that were included at first reading.

1837
02:52:36,000 --> 02:52:43,000
Two weeks ago and in the report is also the funding sources for all these so all the capital projects funded from.

1838
02:52:44,000 --> 02:53:01,000
Reserves and DCCs and the staffing positions of a mix of a number of different sources for the included in the in the recommended resolution is just the taxation component of those positions.

1839
02:53:01,000 --> 02:53:06,000
So these are the projects ahead and.

1840
02:53:06,000 --> 02:53:10,000
We'll pause and let Matt dress up in the costume that anyway.

1841
02:53:10,000 --> 02:53:11,000
Any questions?

1842
02:53:11,000 --> 02:53:14,000
Happy to ask.

1843
02:53:14,000 --> 02:53:16,000
I'll super tell.

1844
02:53:16,000 --> 02:53:18,000
Thank you, Mr. Schmer.

1845
02:53:18,000 --> 02:53:21,000
Just a quick one on the taxation request.

1846
02:53:21,000 --> 02:53:24,000
Do we know the percentage.

1847
02:53:24,000 --> 02:53:26,000
I.

1848
02:53:26,000 --> 02:53:29,000
Yes, and now I'm trying to recall.

1849
02:53:29,000 --> 02:53:35,000
Was in my summary in my budget package.

1850
02:53:35,000 --> 02:53:37,000
Two hundred and eighty thousand.

1851
02:53:37,000 --> 02:53:42,000
One one point two exactly what I was going to say.

1852
02:53:42,000 --> 02:53:47,000
Yeah, thank you.

1853
02:53:47,000 --> 02:53:50,000
Any other questions.

1854
02:53:50,000 --> 02:53:52,000
Councillor Brett.

1855
02:53:52,000 --> 02:53:53,000
Don't have a question.

1856
02:53:53,000 --> 02:53:57,000
I'll staff recommendation, but I do have a comment.

1857
02:53:57,000 --> 02:53:58,000
Okay.

1858
02:53:58,000 --> 02:54:00,000
We'll get a second there.

1859
02:54:01,000 --> 02:54:02,000
I'll come in to wait.

1860
02:54:02,000 --> 02:54:03,000
Yeah.

1861
02:54:03,000 --> 02:54:09,000
My comment is I appreciate that this came after the budget came out.

1862
02:54:09,000 --> 02:54:14,000
I think it is it feels more transparent and allows for communication.

1863
02:54:14,000 --> 02:54:21,000
And so I also appreciate the report and it being detailed and being able to refer back to the finance.

1864
02:54:21,000 --> 02:54:26,000
So thank you for that.

1865
02:54:26,000 --> 02:54:29,000
I just say I think I can source site.

1866
02:54:29,000 --> 02:54:30,000
Mass got to see.

1867
02:54:30,000 --> 02:54:31,000
Excellent.

1868
02:54:31,000 --> 02:54:32,000
I'm sure you want that.

1869
02:54:32,000 --> 02:54:34,000
I think I can find someone to build it.

1870
02:54:34,000 --> 02:54:36,000
Thank you.

1871
02:54:36,000 --> 02:54:39,000
I know the mascot building.

1872
02:54:39,000 --> 02:54:40,000
Okay.

1873
02:54:40,000 --> 02:54:42,000
I'll see you in a more questions.

1874
02:54:42,000 --> 02:54:43,000
Can we get a motion please.

1875
02:54:43,000 --> 02:54:44,000
It's already moving.

1876
02:54:44,000 --> 02:54:45,000
Oh, you already moved it.

1877
02:54:45,000 --> 02:54:46,000
And already seconded it.

1878
02:54:46,000 --> 02:54:48,000
So all those are favor.

1879
02:54:50,000 --> 02:54:52,000
None of those motion carries.

1880
02:54:57,000 --> 02:54:59,000
A point two.

1881
02:54:59,000 --> 02:55:00,000
Thank you.

1882
02:55:00,000 --> 02:55:02,000
Mr. Mayor.

1883
02:55:02,000 --> 02:55:07,000
Item 8.2 is a fees amendment by law 1244.

1884
02:55:07,000 --> 02:55:14,000
And this is a business license fee amendment presented by Ruth Selenditch.

1885
02:55:14,000 --> 02:55:16,000
And I can't remember your title.

1886
02:55:16,000 --> 02:55:17,000
Okay.

1887
02:55:17,000 --> 02:55:18,000
Good evening.

1888
02:55:18,000 --> 02:55:19,000
We're in council.

1889
02:55:19,000 --> 02:55:21,000
On behalf of economic development.

1890
02:55:21,000 --> 02:55:24,000
I'm here to talk a little bit about the annual business license fee.

1891
02:55:24,000 --> 02:55:26,000
For home base businesses.

1892
02:55:26,000 --> 02:55:28,000
You'll recall this time last year exactly.

1893
02:55:28,000 --> 02:55:32,000
Council asked staff to look at the fees for business licenses.

1894
02:55:32,000 --> 02:55:35,000
For home base businesses that didn't receive clients or customers.

1895
02:55:35,000 --> 02:55:38,000
That's what we're doing this evening.

1896
02:55:38,000 --> 02:55:40,000
So they countries is growing.

1897
02:55:40,000 --> 02:55:44,000
We have had a lot of growth this year in our business licensing.

1898
02:55:44,000 --> 02:55:47,000
We were successful in integrating and.

1899
02:55:47,000 --> 02:55:51,000
Putting all our business licenses into tempest with the help of IT.

1900
02:55:51,000 --> 02:55:57,000
We've cleaned up all our records and I'm very pleased to say that our processes have improved drastically.

1901
02:55:57,000 --> 02:55:59,000
The wait time is next to nothing.

1902
02:55:59,000 --> 02:56:02,000
Applicants can apply online.

1903
02:56:02,000 --> 02:56:06,000
And within a day or two if there's nothing different about the application.

1904
02:56:06,000 --> 02:56:07,000
It's just standard.

1905
02:56:07,000 --> 02:56:09,000
They can get a business license within the week.

1906
02:56:09,000 --> 02:56:11,000
Our search short term vacation rentals as well.

1907
02:56:11,000 --> 02:56:13,000
The process is quite clean.

1908
02:56:13,000 --> 02:56:17,000
And some short term vacation rentals have had that business license.

1909
02:56:17,000 --> 02:56:22,000
That business license pending their inspection is successful within a week to two weeks.

1910
02:56:22,000 --> 02:56:24,000
So our wait times are next to nothing.

1911
02:56:24,000 --> 02:56:27,000
And so I'm proud to report on that.

1912
02:56:27,000 --> 02:56:34,000
What we're talking about today is only about home base businesses that conduct business from their home as this lady is.

1913
02:56:34,000 --> 02:56:36,000
She's obviously not going to be receiving any clients.

1914
02:56:36,000 --> 02:56:40,000
She's still in her robe and you know, enjoying her her cats.

1915
02:56:40,000 --> 02:56:43,000
So her neighbors probably don't even know she has a business.

1916
02:56:43,000 --> 02:56:47,000
It's probably online and she has no one coming or going from her home.

1917
02:56:47,000 --> 02:56:55,000
What this is not about is about the type of home base business that does receive clients or customers or has people coming to their home.

1918
02:56:55,000 --> 02:57:04,000
And the reason for this distinction is because the this woman or this person, this business owner, has no disruption to her neighborhood.

1919
02:57:04,000 --> 02:57:09,000
Unless you knew her personally, probably wouldn't even know she has a business sort of conducting anything from her home.

1920
02:57:09,000 --> 02:57:13,000
Whereas this business would probably if you were her neighbor or their neighbor.

1921
02:57:13,000 --> 02:57:17,000
You'd probably see people coming going constantly throughout the day.

1922
02:57:17,000 --> 02:57:23,000
More disruption to the neighborhood potential parking problems potential noise problems etc.

1923
02:57:23,000 --> 02:57:25,000
So how are we doing?

1924
02:57:25,000 --> 02:57:33,000
So business license types in my country as you'll see we have we are just approaching the 1000 mark which is a huge milestone for us.

1925
02:57:33,000 --> 02:57:43,000
We also are increasing our intercommunity business licensing which is allows businesses to conduct business in 21 other municipalities throughout the Okanagan.

1926
02:57:43,000 --> 02:57:49,000
So we're seeing an uptake in that and I think a lot of it has to do with the easier process to navigate.

1927
02:57:49,000 --> 02:57:58,000
Just for costs out of that almost a thousand business licenses about over 500 are home base businesses.

1928
02:57:58,000 --> 02:58:04,000
So we're anticipating and that does not include short term vacation rental short term vacation rentals.

1929
02:58:04,000 --> 02:58:09,000
Short term vacation rentals although they are based out of the home they are not included in this statistic.

1930
02:58:09,000 --> 02:58:15,000
So the short term vacation rentals were about 160 licensed units.

1931
02:58:15,000 --> 02:58:22,000
So the short term vacation rentals pay $350 a year that was adjusted last year for 2024.

1932
02:58:22,000 --> 02:58:28,000
And home base businesses as it stands today in 2024 pay $125 a year.

1933
02:58:28,000 --> 02:58:41,000
What we're proposing is that if a business wants to fill out a form and claim that they don't have traffic coming or going any clientels any customers going to their home for their sake of their business.

1934
02:58:41,000 --> 02:58:46,000
That we would reduce the fee to $65 a year moving forward.

1935
02:58:46,000 --> 02:58:56,000
So the onus we will be communicating if this is council's wish and we proceed with this we will be sending a form out to all home base businesses that we know.

1936
02:58:56,000 --> 02:59:04,000
Could potentially not have a client we won't be sending it to hairdressers or people who run services from their home that we know clients are coming and going.

1937
02:59:04,000 --> 02:59:13,000
But the ones we suspect don't have that they would be required to fill out the form send it back and then their 2025 fee would be adjusted.

1938
02:59:14,000 --> 02:59:31,000
So just to recap again, 2025 business license fee if successful home base businesses that don't receive clients would be $65 per calendar year and it would continue to be $125 for home base businesses that do receive clients in their home.

1939
02:59:31,000 --> 02:59:33,000
With that I'll open it to questions.

1940
02:59:34,000 --> 02:59:35,000
Thank you very much.

1941
02:59:35,000 --> 02:59:36,000
Very report.

1942
02:59:36,000 --> 02:59:37,000
That's what we're talking about.

1943
02:59:37,000 --> 02:59:38,000
Thanks.

1944
02:59:38,000 --> 02:59:39,000
Thanks.

1945
02:59:39,000 --> 02:59:46,000
For the differentiator between clients or businesses that receive and don't receive.

1946
02:59:46,000 --> 02:59:48,000
Can anyone apply?

1947
02:59:48,000 --> 02:59:59,000
I guess what I'm trying to understand is if you have two of the same businesses and one decides to host clients in their home and one decides to do a mall virtually.

1948
02:59:59,000 --> 03:00:00,000
Do they?

1949
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:11,000
A plight like this one can the one that does all their business virtually meet with their clients online. Can they apply for the cheaper of the two?

1950
03:00:11,000 --> 03:00:19,000
Absolutely, so that's a great question. So as long as the clientele or the customers are not actually coming to the home, they could definitely apply.

1951
03:00:19,000 --> 03:00:29,000
And that question will be asked. Do you receive clients or customers at your home? So no, because it's all done virtually, whereas on the flip side of your example, people who have, you know, whether it's one customer or two customers,

1952
03:00:29,000 --> 03:00:34,000
customer or two customers a day or what have you, maybe so weekly, they still do have that impact to their neighborhoods.

1953
03:00:34,000 --> 03:00:37,000
So it's a little bit of a honor system. Correct.

1954
03:00:37,000 --> 03:00:42,000
Okay. Yep. And that'll be reviewed from time to time by by law.

1955
03:00:42,000 --> 03:00:50,000
So if a neighbor complains, you know, that I know they're running a business, because we'll have the online directory on our website starting in 2025.

1956
03:00:50,000 --> 03:00:57,000
I know they have a business, I see people coming going, they're blocking my driveway, there's noise, then we will investigate.

1957
03:00:57,000 --> 03:01:05,000
So if they've signed a document saying that they don't receive customers and clients, we would likely revoke that at that point.

1958
03:01:05,000 --> 03:01:09,000
Excellent. Thank you.

1959
03:01:09,000 --> 03:01:12,000
Thank you.

1960
03:01:12,000 --> 03:01:16,000
Thank you for the presentation, Ruth. Just a kind of leader on from the question from Councillor Patel.

1961
03:01:16,000 --> 03:01:18,000
What's the level of tolerance?

1962
03:01:18,000 --> 03:01:26,000
So, for example, you have a building contractor who doesn't normally receive clients at home, but one day, one of his clients says,

1963
03:01:26,000 --> 03:01:30,000
You know, I really can't meet you on site. I have to drop by the home and discuss these plans.

1964
03:01:30,000 --> 03:01:35,000
Does that mean that he's now breached their agreement, and that they now have to pay the 250.

1965
03:01:35,000 --> 03:01:37,000
Where's the boundary?

1966
03:01:37,000 --> 03:01:44,000
Absolutely. So it's, again, the honor system. So if they feel they don't receive clients or customers, they would sign the waiver and send it in.

1967
03:01:44,000 --> 03:01:51,000
We did just, it would just be complaint based. So if we're getting, you know, not just that nasty neighbor who wants to complain,

1968
03:01:51,000 --> 03:01:58,000
but if we're getting multiple complaints, we usually work with the business owner to say, hey, listen, you know, we received a complaint.

1969
03:01:58,000 --> 03:02:02,000
Is it legit? What have you? Like we want to see them be successful. So it wouldn't be revoked.

1970
03:02:02,000 --> 03:02:08,000
We would just talk to them. And if there are circumstances of change, that's fine. We'll just adjust it for the following year.

1971
03:02:08,000 --> 03:02:19,000
So anybody who has potential to receive a client who may turn up at their home during this year, they cannot, they should not apply for the cheaper one because that might happen.

1972
03:02:19,000 --> 03:02:20,000
No.

1973
03:02:20,000 --> 03:02:22,000
So they can, the wording is regular.

1974
03:02:22,000 --> 03:02:28,000
Okay. If you know you're going to get a regular clients, you know, two or three of them a week, probably not a good idea to sign.

1975
03:02:28,000 --> 03:02:32,000
We will be working, recognizing this is the first year for seeing how it goes.

1976
03:02:32,000 --> 03:02:36,000
We will definitely work with our business owners. We want them to be successful.

1977
03:02:36,000 --> 03:02:44,000
So if they've, you know, filled it out in air, that's okay. We'll fix it for the following year. Okay. Perfect. Thank you.

1978
03:02:44,000 --> 03:02:50,000
Any further questions? Can I get a mover please? Councillor McKenzie?

1979
03:02:50,000 --> 03:02:54,000
A second at Councillor Patel? All those in favor?

1980
03:02:54,000 --> 03:02:58,000
None of those motion carries. Thank you very much, Ruth. Great.

1981
03:02:58,000 --> 03:03:03,000
And we are on to 8.3.

1982
03:03:03,000 --> 03:03:11,000
Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Item 8.3 is highways and building regulation by law amendment for driveways and driveway accesses.

1983
03:03:11,000 --> 03:03:22,000
And this is being presented by Stephen Govels.

1984
03:03:22,000 --> 03:03:26,000
Good evening, Mayor Council. Stephen Govels, Manager of Development Engineering.

1985
03:03:26,000 --> 03:03:34,000
Just a brief presentation on some amendments to the highways and the building regulation by law to do with driveways and driveway accesses.

1986
03:03:34,000 --> 03:03:39,000
So just to be the history on that process in October of 2022, the highways by law was adopted.

1987
03:03:39,000 --> 03:03:45,000
And I'm sorry to that. There was a number of different by laws and policies that kind of covered driveways and driveway accesses.

1988
03:03:45,000 --> 03:03:51,000
And a number of district things that covered driveways on private property.

1989
03:03:51,000 --> 03:03:57,000
That was kind of an issue with legal authority because it left on site driveways are meant to be regulated by the building codes.

1990
03:03:57,000 --> 03:04:00,000
There was a bit of an overreach from some of our documents.

1991
03:04:00,000 --> 03:04:07,000
So at that time, this was adopted, separated the private, the public, the exception being the first six meters on private property,

1992
03:04:07,000 --> 03:04:11,000
the first six meters on private property.

1993
03:04:11,000 --> 03:04:16,000
So that's been in place, this has been in place for about two years.

1994
03:04:16,000 --> 03:04:20,000
And there's been a lot of collaboration with building an engineering in the fire department.

1995
03:04:20,000 --> 03:04:27,000
And we're at the point where that first six meters is kind of the key change that we're proposing we make tonight.

1996
03:04:27,000 --> 03:04:33,000
So the top picture shows us the current situation with that six meter buffer into the private property.

1997
03:04:33,000 --> 03:04:36,000
What we're proposing is that is moved back to the property line.

1998
03:04:36,000 --> 03:04:40,000
So there's a clear distinction between the private realm and the public realm.

1999
03:04:40,000 --> 03:04:47,000
All the works in the public realm would be governed by the highways by law and the driveway access permit process.

2000
03:04:47,000 --> 03:04:56,000
Everything on the private side would be under building regulation by law building, BC building code and registered by the building department.

2001
03:04:56,000 --> 03:05:05,000
And at this point there's also a policy that was adopted in 2022 that we're recommending we were sitting because it basically describes in more detail this six meter buffer.

2002
03:05:05,000 --> 03:05:12,000
And just list some of the building code requirements, which would be considered at time building permit anyway, so it's not really required at this time.

2003
03:05:12,000 --> 03:05:21,000
So without we'll go to the recommendation that the highways amendment by law, we had a first second and third time, same for the building regulation by law amendment.

2004
03:05:21,000 --> 03:05:28,000
And that we were sitting in the driveway, sorry, driveway design and construction guidelines policy.

2005
03:05:28,000 --> 03:05:29,000
And any questions?

2006
03:05:29,000 --> 03:05:30,000
Very good. Thank you.

2007
03:05:30,000 --> 03:05:33,000
Question, it's council.

2008
03:05:33,000 --> 03:05:36,000
Councillor Lewis, thank you Mr. Mayor.

2009
03:05:36,000 --> 03:05:37,000
Just one question.

2010
03:05:37,000 --> 03:05:41,000
Do you know why this happened in the first place?

2011
03:05:41,000 --> 03:05:47,000
Why there was this six meter discrepancy? Why was it not always this way?

2012
03:05:47,000 --> 03:05:55,000
Well, through the chair, I think there was concern about that transition piece from private to public property and the safety of vehicles entering the roadway.

2013
03:05:55,000 --> 03:06:04,000
So that was lifted there just to make sure that was covered through the access process, but in working with it for two years it closely with the building department.

2014
03:06:04,000 --> 03:06:07,000
There's a lot of collaboration there and it's not really necessary.

2015
03:06:07,000 --> 03:06:12,000
I think the building department does a good job of assessing what's needed on private property.

2016
03:06:12,000 --> 03:06:20,000
There's a slight change in the building regulation by law that we're adding tonight as well, saying that the grades need to be assessed to make sure they're safe.

2017
03:06:20,000 --> 03:06:23,000
So it will be covered off through the building permit process.

2018
03:06:23,000 --> 03:06:26,000
Great. Thank you. I think this is great.

2019
03:06:26,000 --> 03:06:27,000
Councillor Brett.

2020
03:06:27,000 --> 03:06:28,000
Thank you Mr. Mayor.

2021
03:06:28,000 --> 03:06:34,000
I have a question on how this impacts existing properties and the encroachment piece.

2022
03:06:34,000 --> 03:06:42,000
So there's as we've had in other meetings there's areas of within the district that have lots of driveway encroachment on to highways.

2023
03:06:42,000 --> 03:06:46,000
Does this impact that in any further way?

2024
03:06:46,000 --> 03:06:56,000
Through the chair it would only really get assessed at time if they came in with like a change use or a building permit or if they're proposing a change to the driveway would be considered at that time.

2025
03:06:56,000 --> 03:07:04,000
We have done a lot of work with some of these historical ones including as many of them up, but really it's a change that would dictate a review of that process.

2026
03:07:04,000 --> 03:07:06,000
Okay. Thank you.

2027
03:07:06,000 --> 03:07:08,000
That's a read.

2028
03:07:08,000 --> 03:07:13,000
Thank you Mr. Mayor and thank you for the presentation. Can I just say congratulations on your report.

2029
03:07:13,000 --> 03:07:16,000
This is one way pictures speak a thousand words.

2030
03:07:16,000 --> 03:07:24,000
I was reading the text and I had I'm confused and then the two pictures, but straight away you exactly what you were talking about, so thank you.

2031
03:07:24,000 --> 03:07:28,000
I did consider only including the picture.

2032
03:07:28,000 --> 03:07:30,000
Do this.

2033
03:07:30,000 --> 03:07:33,000
Thank you very much. You made it a lot clearer for me.

2034
03:07:33,000 --> 03:07:35,000
Very good. We need a motion.

2035
03:07:35,000 --> 03:07:38,000
Councillor Brett, Councillor McKenzie, you're seconding that.

2036
03:07:38,000 --> 03:07:40,000
That's assuming the staff recommendation.

2037
03:07:40,000 --> 03:07:42,000
All those of favor.

2038
03:07:42,000 --> 03:07:46,000
Not a pose motion carries. Thank you very much.

2039
03:07:46,000 --> 03:07:48,000
Okay.

2040
03:07:48,000 --> 03:07:52,000
And we're almost through here, guys.

2041
03:07:52,000 --> 03:07:56,000
We just have a few reports that are included in the things on from council communities.

2042
03:07:56,000 --> 03:07:58,000
A lot of services advisory committee.

2043
03:07:58,000 --> 03:08:01,000
Meaning minutes were included.

2044
03:08:01,000 --> 03:08:06,000
From external, the regional library board, the board of education, the RDCO.

2045
03:08:06,000 --> 03:08:11,000
The open on the base and water board report were included.

2046
03:08:11,000 --> 03:08:14,000
Just as a little aside.

2047
03:08:14,000 --> 03:08:19,000
I might have mentioned this before, but at the open on the base and water board and

2048
03:08:19,000 --> 03:08:23,000
or if serious is going to retire, so right now we're in a,

2049
03:08:23,000 --> 03:08:27,000
we are actively searching for a new executive director for the open on the base and water board.

2050
03:08:27,000 --> 03:08:36,000
So if you know somebody, a water person, a very smart, a good water person,

2051
03:08:36,000 --> 03:08:38,000
it might be a good job for them.

2052
03:08:38,000 --> 03:08:40,000
Yes, but they can't have them.

2053
03:08:40,000 --> 03:08:44,000
No, no, I said smart.

2054
03:08:44,000 --> 03:08:47,000
Just kidding.

2055
03:08:47,000 --> 03:08:51,000
I don't know, but I'm taking it back now.

2056
03:08:51,000 --> 03:08:53,000
Okay.

2057
03:08:53,000 --> 03:08:57,000
Have a question.

2058
03:08:57,000 --> 03:08:59,000
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

2059
03:08:59,000 --> 03:09:05,000
So just one question after reading the report there, the water report.

2060
03:09:05,000 --> 03:09:11,000
I'm curious with all our work up top and our reservoirs and stuff,

2061
03:09:11,000 --> 03:09:15,000
where our water levels are sitting going into

2062
03:09:15,000 --> 03:09:19,000
and to when we're going to have to feed some more water for the fish.

2063
03:09:19,000 --> 03:09:23,000
So I just curious if at some point we can get up date.

2064
03:09:23,000 --> 03:09:25,000
So we know where we're sitting.

2065
03:09:25,000 --> 03:09:27,000
We're past the fish window.

2066
03:09:27,000 --> 03:09:29,000
Any ideas?

2067
03:09:29,000 --> 03:09:31,000
Like I say, you know, I'm given now.

2068
03:09:31,000 --> 03:09:33,000
I just, it would be nice to know whether we're.

2069
03:09:33,000 --> 03:09:35,000
Perfect.

2070
03:09:35,000 --> 03:09:37,000
Thank you.

2071
03:09:37,000 --> 03:09:39,000
Appreciate that.

2072
03:09:39,000 --> 03:09:40,000
Thanks.

2073
03:09:40,000 --> 03:09:42,000
Okay.

2074
03:09:43,000 --> 03:09:44,000
It's very helpful.

2075
03:09:44,000 --> 03:09:45,000
Go to Councilor items.

2076
03:09:45,000 --> 03:09:46,000
Councilor.

2077
03:09:46,000 --> 03:09:48,000
Urban.

2078
03:09:48,000 --> 03:09:50,000
It's going to be short and sweet.

2079
03:09:50,000 --> 03:09:52,000
It's going to wish everybody a Merry Christmas.

2080
03:09:52,000 --> 03:09:53,000
Happy New Year.

2081
03:09:53,000 --> 03:09:55,000
And please don't drink and drive.

2082
03:09:55,000 --> 03:09:57,000
Thank you.

2083
03:09:57,000 --> 03:09:59,000
Councilor McKinsey.

2084
03:09:59,000 --> 03:10:01,000
Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

2085
03:10:01,000 --> 03:10:10,000
So one thing that I'd brought up there a little while ago after we approved the.

2086
03:10:10,000 --> 03:10:14,000
Our Council meeting schedule for the year.

2087
03:10:14,000 --> 03:10:16,000
The July 15th meeting.

2088
03:10:16,000 --> 03:10:19,000
I have a little bit of an issue with.

2089
03:10:19,000 --> 03:10:24,000
I look at the schedule and we go from the 15th all the way to August 19th.

2090
03:10:24,000 --> 03:10:26,000
So well over a month.

2091
03:10:26,000 --> 03:10:32,000
In between meetings and what I'm was suggesting is we move it back to the 22nd.

2092
03:10:32,000 --> 03:10:37,000
And at least we shorten that down to four weeks between meetings.

2093
03:10:37,000 --> 03:10:44,000
So I just curious if, you know, if that's possible to do.

2094
03:10:44,000 --> 03:10:48,000
And to me it just seems like that's too big of a gap to go between meetings.

2095
03:10:48,000 --> 03:10:52,000
And I don't know if it's fair to staff to expect them to come up.

2096
03:10:52,000 --> 03:10:55,000
Two meetings back to back with one week.

2097
03:10:55,000 --> 03:10:56,000
We don't really give.

2098
03:10:56,000 --> 03:10:59,000
And it's not any staff but it's still public out there.

2099
03:10:59,000 --> 03:11:02,000
You don't really get a lot of time in between.

2100
03:11:02,000 --> 03:11:08,000
So I'm just I think it to me it makes sense, but I'm just curious.

2101
03:11:08,000 --> 03:11:11,000
Is that possible? Does anybody have a.

2102
03:11:11,000 --> 03:11:14,000
I reason not to.

2103
03:11:14,000 --> 03:11:17,000
Yes.

2104
03:11:17,000 --> 03:11:22,000
We've laid the schedule out there.

2105
03:11:22,000 --> 03:11:23,000
We voted on it.

2106
03:11:23,000 --> 03:11:27,000
People have made plans around that schedule.

2107
03:11:27,000 --> 03:11:35,000
So that schedule is not there for a reason to give us that break during that summer period.

2108
03:11:35,000 --> 03:11:42,000
So.

2109
03:11:42,000 --> 03:11:43,000
Yeah.

2110
03:11:43,000 --> 03:11:47,000
Yeah.

2111
03:11:47,000 --> 03:11:48,000
Yeah.

2112
03:11:48,000 --> 03:11:50,000
Wow.

2113
03:11:51,000 --> 03:11:53,000
No.

2114
03:11:53,000 --> 03:11:54,000
No.

2115
03:11:54,000 --> 03:11:56,000
No.

2116
03:11:56,000 --> 03:11:58,000
No.

2117
03:11:58,000 --> 03:12:01,000
Okay.

2118
03:12:01,000 --> 03:12:04,000
I also Mary Christmas happening.

2119
03:12:04,000 --> 03:12:06,000
I hope everyone takes some time to relax.

2120
03:12:06,000 --> 03:12:08,000
We've done a lot this year.

2121
03:12:08,000 --> 03:12:10,000
As council and as staff.

2122
03:12:10,000 --> 03:12:12,000
So appreciate that.

2123
03:12:12,000 --> 03:12:16,000
There is more to be done next year.

2124
03:12:17,000 --> 03:12:19,000
We mentioned I mentioned those.

2125
03:12:19,000 --> 03:12:20,000
So I know.

2126
03:12:20,000 --> 03:12:22,000
Then more to be done next year.

2127
03:12:22,000 --> 03:12:24,000
So hopefully we all come back.

2128
03:12:24,000 --> 03:12:26,000
Rest it and ready for work.

2129
03:12:26,000 --> 03:12:28,000
Cause it's going to be a big year for us.

2130
03:12:28,000 --> 03:12:30,000
And twenty twenty four was pretty big as well.

2131
03:12:30,000 --> 03:12:32,000
So I know that the community feels it.

2132
03:12:32,000 --> 03:12:33,000
We feel it.

2133
03:12:33,000 --> 03:12:34,000
Staff feel it.

2134
03:12:34,000 --> 03:12:37,000
So I want to appreciate all the work we're putting in.

2135
03:12:37,000 --> 03:12:39,000
Thank you.

2136
03:12:40,000 --> 03:12:41,000
Thank you.

2137
03:12:41,000 --> 03:12:43,000
Just two things.

2138
03:12:43,000 --> 03:12:45,000
One.

2139
03:12:45,000 --> 03:12:47,000
You know, we stop a week.

2140
03:12:47,000 --> 03:12:52,000
If you're like me, you still have every piece of Christmas shopping to do.

2141
03:12:52,000 --> 03:13:00,000
But I do recommend by local as pretty usually even more important now because you don't have to worry about shipping.

2142
03:13:00,000 --> 03:13:02,000
It becomes a lot easier.

2143
03:13:02,000 --> 03:13:07,000
And I know the locals would be very appreciative of it.

2144
03:13:07,000 --> 03:13:14,000
With the year come into an end, I just do want to express my gratitude to this administration.

2145
03:13:14,000 --> 03:13:21,000
The first year in council, I kind of felt like I was on defense and apologizing a lot to the community,

2146
03:13:21,000 --> 03:13:23,000
developer, like a lot of things.

2147
03:13:23,000 --> 03:13:25,000
And I feel like.

2148
03:13:25,000 --> 03:13:29,000
Or last couple of years with some changes that we've made and the drive of this team,

2149
03:13:29,000 --> 03:13:32,000
looking out as I was today.

2150
03:13:33,000 --> 03:13:38,000
Everyone of you has played an integral role to get us in a really amazing direction.

2151
03:13:38,000 --> 03:13:40,000
And it's a fantastic place to be.

2152
03:13:40,000 --> 03:13:42,000
And I'm so excited for next year and what's to come.

2153
03:13:42,000 --> 03:13:45,000
So I just want to say thank you to you.

2154
03:13:45,000 --> 03:13:47,000
That's it.

2155
03:13:47,000 --> 03:13:48,000
Thank you.

2156
03:13:48,000 --> 03:13:49,000
Thank you.

2157
03:13:49,000 --> 03:13:50,000
Thank you.

2158
03:13:50,000 --> 03:13:51,000
Thank you.

2159
03:13:51,000 --> 03:13:53,000
Great comments from around the table.

2160
03:13:53,000 --> 03:13:55,000
I just wanted to add.

2161
03:13:55,000 --> 03:13:59,000
Thank you to cause landing for their support of the food bank.

2162
03:13:59,000 --> 03:14:01,000
It was exceptional this year.

2163
03:14:01,000 --> 03:14:05,000
So thank you so much for everybody who donated.

2164
03:14:05,000 --> 03:14:08,000
We did had some amazing donations.

2165
03:14:08,000 --> 03:14:11,000
You started with a turkey and ended up with something which is completely amazing.

2166
03:14:11,000 --> 03:14:12,000
You know who you are.

2167
03:14:12,000 --> 03:14:19,000
And also thank you to the firefighters who volunteered their Sunday to go around and collect for six hours.

2168
03:14:19,000 --> 03:14:21,000
I think it was in the cold.

2169
03:14:21,000 --> 03:14:24,000
So it's all desperately needed.

2170
03:14:24,000 --> 03:14:25,000
So thank you very much.

2171
03:14:26,000 --> 03:14:32,000
I wanted to say a special thank you and congratulations to staff on passing there.

2172
03:14:32,000 --> 03:14:39,000
And we get this right certificate of recognition audit with ninety seven percent.

2173
03:14:39,000 --> 03:14:44,000
Sarah Goodwin and her team from occupational health led but it's a it's a team effort.

2174
03:14:44,000 --> 03:14:51,000
You don't get that level without everybody engaging in everybody taking ownership and feeling that they have a part to play.

2175
03:14:51,000 --> 03:14:57,000
So as a culture and as a sign of how the team is changing and growing and developing.

2176
03:14:57,000 --> 03:15:00,000
I think that is like a great thing.

2177
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:09,080
Dyn y gwnytag, o fysfysd o gau ydyfysd yn galli weld eu, ipad y ffysd a cael pwybod a znaud fel.

2178
03:15:09,080 --> 03:15:11,940
bod yn wthu'ch mynd yn dwi'n ybarwne.

2179
03:15:11,940 --> 03:15:18,640
Gwi'n yma'u, y'n moind ysta'n gorwyslu'n synefysd yn cymru, yn ffordd yn ffysd a yn mugwrydd a yn dwefysd a yn ffysd a yn ffysd a yn gallu.

2180
03:15:18,640 --> 03:15:21,520
Gwi'n ffysd a yn y fflwyrd ni eithaeth.

2181
03:15:21,520 --> 03:15:26,520
awssaun yn senyddau byd dys Kent dithau awssaun.

2182
03:15:26,520 --> 03:15:29,840
Df'rulos, dde'n cynric yn fel counleys!

2183
03:15:29,840 --> 03:15:33,240
Y'n ar gall writhu a gwyd leu ydymwydag yn ffremd o drwybau a gdda euad.

2184
03:15:33,240 --> 03:15:37,840
ravd ei ei bod yn'r lof eithiau, yr ddeau, yn ffremd o eithi gwerd,

2185
03:15:37,840 --> 03:15:46,060
yn ffremd a gwydthiau, yn ffremd a hymn ddeu, a gwrd a gydda eu mwy yn bweith, a gydda gwnd a gwd, y lefr yn ba'l

2186
03:15:46,060 --> 03:15:50,100
ei y ffremd a gydda gwnd a gwnd a gydda gwnd a rod.

2187
03:15:50,100 --> 03:15:54,200
Salot mae'r gwu drof o'r newstaf' ensonio a roxem

2188
03:15:54,200 --> 03:15:57,420
Ond i'r o...'r slym.

2189
03:15:57,420 --> 03:16:03,060
�ydd tralydd physio are fashion, fydod yn y dofled нужно sutahan

2190
03:16:03,060 --> 03:16:17,580
fel i a'r go o'r osteennau, what are lo of you

2191
03:16:17,580 --> 03:16:21,780
mor b failure a ffaenahan enchili a ffafnyd y phewn efo leith o galli wedi hym ynes y ffaenahan.

2192
03:16:21,780 --> 03:16:25,020
Fffaenahan isisch euol yn ym'r i ffaenahan, oulu bryd, o dr hynoedd ymneud ymriaedaufu £5 perionu'r

2193
03:16:25,020 --> 03:16:30,700
â llos ymyd yn ymieid, a ffaenahan, a ffaenahan, a ffaenahan, ar y pathfig, a roes mers ymdwch i'r i'r'r,

2194
03:16:30,700 --> 03:16:34,300
a ffaenahan ymneud, a ffaenahan, a ffaenahan, a ffaenahan, a ffaenahan.

2195
03:16:34,340 --> 03:16:34,540
Ewn ymneud i mysdwybod.

2196
03:16:34,540 --> 03:16:36,100
Ewn ymneud, a ffaenahan.

2197
03:16:36,100 --> 03:16:42,880
y tú wedi американolio west, i yn yna éllwy yn gyda a edford33?

2198
03:16:42,880 --> 03:16:50,880
Lyd yn i'r ynd yda wedi cosen, joenetraendod, o hyn oedd peib yn y turnire new.

2199
03:16:50,880 --> 03:16:53,940
Ond yna feit rydys ydnder'n p Guideisonally?

2200
03:16:53,940 --> 03:17:00,780
Mae diwch chi'nod oedd m ν nhw'n yn ogd diagnostic vandd witadelié恩?

2201
03:17:00,780 --> 03:17:05,740
mae ydym yn yel pheu i'n ifans artywch yn ymmer sy'n gympelogi o'r

2202
03:17:05,740 --> 03:17:08,820
wedi'n ystynyfans ymmer, o'r funnodol i'n hynnydd.

2203
03:17:08,820 --> 03:17:10,780
Mae yhan yna yna y newydd.

2204
03:17:10,780 --> 03:17:14,760
Mae'n yna cyddwn o'n mae'n cyfryn i'r aedol…

2205
03:17:14,760 --> 03:17:16,760
Ynaas cyllín, aedol, Rhyn i'n i'n cyllín?

2206
03:17:16,760 --> 03:17:23,140
Mŵn i'n cyllín i'n mae'n gypte i'r gympelogi i'r

2207
03:17:23,140 --> 03:17:24,760
yn yna..

2208
03:17:24,760 --> 03:17:28,020
Rydym i'n rhynnydd i'n cyllín i'r cyllín i'n rewdon deurol.

2209
03:17:28,020 --> 03:17:31,940
nad ydydd yda mewn伊wwyr eisiau bauend ydyddio gweithodolw noises.

2210
03:17:31,940 --> 03:17:35,860
Dwyd yn ysyweddor a gwirrdau lyd âwd.

2211
03:17:35,860 --> 03:17:37,020
A united yddiadau yddu.

2212
03:17:37,020 --> 03:17:40,780
Gwyd ydydd a i ddddadolgeu nhw, gwy ar llatw 11.

2213
03:17:40,780 --> 03:17:42,060
Gwyd ydddu.

2214
03:17:42,060 --> 03:17:46,060
Mae'n i'n i'n fod yn i'n erifer o tid tenайddio'r i'n parell i'n nifer.

2215
03:17:46,060 --> 03:17:51,060
Mae'n o'n ddeodau efer am ni yn'nfalwini, a dddatie.

2216
03:17:51,060 --> 03:17:54,060
Mae'n pforden nifer yma'n modell yn ddeodau yma'n modell ac ddatie.

2217
03:17:54,060 --> 03:17:58,080
Mae'n modell mae hyn ni'n yma'n modell yma'n modell a ddwybynadau, a ddwybynadaurau'n yma'n modell

2218
03:17:58,080 --> 03:18:00,060
mae'n modell yma'n modell yn ddeodau ym pforddau ym gall, a ddwybyn nhw.

2219
03:18:00,060 --> 03:18:03,080
Mae'n modell yma, yna'n modell yma, yna yma'n modell yn yna'n modellol.

2220
03:18:03,080 --> 03:18:10,080
Lleblod yn Worth dwynna cynny aedl o'r filithio, aedl o'r i m'r syffl dymth euolad, y syna yw co phoedd i'r iawn o'r goediol, o'r gotd o'r mae'r gwneud o'r ryddei, mae'n bwyrau, rathas'd predot, mae'n lleedd, gwy sofduflfithio, y aedl.

2221
03:18:10,080 --> 03:18:12,080
Rwy ddim yn dda'r goediol.

2222
03:18:12,080 --> 03:18:16,280
Ys o'n i'r ddenau.

2223
03:18:16,280 --> 03:18:18,240
Ys o'n i'r ddenau?

2224
03:18:18,240 --> 03:18:19,800
I'r ddenau.

2225
03:18:19,800 --> 03:18:20,960
I'r ddenau.

2226
03:18:20,960 --> 03:18:22,920
Ys o'n i'r ddenau.

2227
03:18:22,920 --> 03:18:24,560
Si'n i'r ddenau.

2228
03:18:24,560 --> 03:18:26,320
Si'n ddenau.

2229
03:18:26,320 --> 03:18:35,140
Un i'n brand i'roses o'r rynb hyn o'r rynb hynny yr'r friedr o'r gwyrn y dayyn i'r gymsdairau ynychyd'r gwaith arr a'r ymthrauael, waith..

2230
03:18:35,140 --> 03:18:40,060
Yn yr rynb hynnychyd i'r rynb hynnychyd.