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Let's

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call tonight's meeting, order. Can we take room, please?

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I'm Commissioner Dio will not be attending tonight.

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Martin Lee. Here.

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Stacey Bond, Minaski. Jessica Cannon.

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Ginny Kiesel.

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And let's singer.

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Here.

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Defrowman.

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Emphasol here will not be attending tonight.

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And Steve Snow.

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On

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the consent agenda is the last meeting from last month's meeting.

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We have any corrections to make or if people have a chance to review them,

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to review them.

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Motion to accept them as presented.

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Make a motion.

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Second that.

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All in favor?

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Aye.

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Public discussion tonight.

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So we have, we're supposed to have two of our contract instructors here today and you'll see

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one of them a little bit later, we put her in new business but we do have Mr. Day of Degudis

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who is our tennis contractor here so have him come up in.

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We've been doing where we're going.

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I have to make sure that one

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for myself.

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I've been teaching tennis here for the city now for what five years, at least.

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I've been involved in starting from scratch.

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I guess I do a little advertising.

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I'm through the senior citizen stuff.

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I've done that in the past.

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Most of the advertising is, of course, out on the website, and stuff like fires, getting them

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out to the school system, and that's what we've done in the past.

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And pre-COVID, we attempted, I was going to do a fundraiser with somebody else to try to get

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some lights on the two courts that we have, which it extend the play, because we've got the

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public that every time I'm up there, it's like we want to play more, we want to play more

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and we all know we need some courts. We also have another aim that's in the background

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that's being pushed pretty hard, too, for more of the senior citizens and COVID pushed it out

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side from the gym, which is pickleball. Now you got two things that we need to look at.

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And about three weeks ago I had the clear blue, the assistant principal over at the middle

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school called me up because I do teach and coach the middle school team. I started their team

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up last year. And so he kind of picked my brain a little bit on what do we need to do for the

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future sports for the school and in the facilities.

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I know that all this is worked together with the city and the school.

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So I kind of threw that together.

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The guy's name on top there.

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Some of you may recognize that name.

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He grew up in the city of Memphis,

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in the metro area, playing tennis.

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And he now owns a sports company.

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And then another guy is a friend of mine.

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So some of this information I got, and it's really just ballpark figures on the cost of courts,

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the cost of undine, pickleball for the future, and

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possibility of growth, where ever it might be.

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I'm not getting involved in that.

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He did throw out some ideas that, and this is by the way, for city, which is Hattie's

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Mississippi, that's how they have raised their money for their courts, through a gas tax.

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But long story short, when I teach tennis, I usually do my clinics, I can hand out another

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one, but I'm going to get one at the end.

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If you haven't seen my clinics, most of the time they're on Sunday afternoons, I have found

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that's the best time because we have other sports in the city view, that, where people

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to get their kids out, they don't have to worry about all the Saturday sports.

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So we've done that in the past and been successful with it, but I always have people

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that had lights we could do more and if we had more courts and I'm always very careful

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as we have folks that want to get on those tennis courts because we only have to make sure

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that we leave them open as much as possible.

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For courts, we could do more.

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Now, we've been successful up to this point.

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At this point, I've got to put a few notes on just

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for minor things that we need.

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I would love to see city and the school system,

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because I know they kind of work together on other stuff.

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You did this program grow.

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There's definitely possibilities with more courts doing tennis tournaments, things like that.

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I'm a USPTA teaching pro, which means I'm certified.

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If I don't have the contacts, I've made it to other people.

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I've been teaching for a long time.

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I've been playing for ever.

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But one gentleman over here might now.

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I've been playing for eight long since I was 10 years of age.

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And I started in a public facility in Germantown when it was a small little community.

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I saw a road and I saw all the mad courts, I've seen in the changes, and in the course,

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this is an upcoming area in Grown, we know what Arlington has just done with their courts.

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And there's no reason why we couldn't do the same thing, but you want to be very careful,

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We'll grow things out, that's y'all's job and y'all know that.

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I do have adults, I do have kids, I had to call the other day and I usually start doing

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mixers for adults and kids as we get in the summer for players that want to play usually

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in the lower level, not a higher level.

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Again, I'm very careful because I don't want to take up all the court time because you

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people that want to get on the courts and play.

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Any questions as to what I laid in front of you or my program, because some of you may not even be aware if you're not a tense player, you may not be aware of what I have done in the past and what I've worked with Pat and some of the folks here.

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I'm assuming your program is always full because of your limit because of you only got two courts.

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I've got, that is correct, I have two courts, and if, see, a young kids that are playing,

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because there's enough gap in those courts, I try to make sure that if there's enough

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gap and it's just a handful of kids, I'll let somebody, you know, the courts over there

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as long as they're not a really out-of-the-plainer, because I don't want the kids to get hurt.

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But, yes, if I have something going on,

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I've got, of course, taken up sometimes.

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Most of the time, it's just one court.

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But, again, I want to believe him open as much as possible

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or the public, because that's what they're there for.

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Is there a number of courts that you would like to have?

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I mean, is there, would you, six, eight,

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you know, I thought about this in our picture

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Because as a world you really want lands with pickleball courts on it, so you have pickleball.

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But you don't want to take up all the pickleball time with the tennis players

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because they get mad and vice versa.

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So with the two courts you have right now what I've seen in other places

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is they put the lines up on maybe two of the courts.

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That gives you pickleball, but they're also tennis courts.

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It's not right right now we have 10 in underlines, which 10 in under is good for the up and

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coming players that are playing tennis that are young kids.

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That was not around when I was a child.

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We went straight into their normal tennis ball, but you can take those same lines and create

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10 in underlines and use them for both one or the other.

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With the two courts that are existing, you could put pickleball on those two courts.

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Most of the time, if you play US, E.A.A. Tennis, United States and the Association,

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they want you to have one court kind of open if possible, or you're being used.

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A lot of the courts you see are formed, really the ideal situation is six and that's

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what I told the guys over at the school system I told them is six is ideal because especially

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for schools, they can get through, they can get their homework done very quickly with

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four, it's harder for them to do.

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And I know the very first day last year when I started working with the school system over

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There only, I wasn't really part of this scenario, because I don't have tennis courts over there,

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but for everybody else they said, everything after six o'clock and on weekends belongs to the city.

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Everything earlier belongs to the school system.

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So if you had six courts over there, you easily, and especially if they were lit, probably

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be enough if you lift the courts over here and put pickleball and your pickleball players might

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be over here your tennis players might be over here but I will recommend six and two more

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over here. Now if you notice I put in here and I think I put in here post tension. Those

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course that you have, whoever did those courts, they would, at Brownsville, Tennessee,

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Haywood County. Now they all say and they did it right. Years ago usually, they post

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tension those courts. And those courts were resurfaced a few years ago because of some

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programs that I had here. They reached out to me and we got some USDA funding resurfaced

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those courts. But those courts have very few cracks in them because they were done right.

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If you don't do them right, you're going to spin your wheels and you're going to keep investing in

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Acts.

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And you go to some tennis courts and you'll see them.

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And now some of them are done correctly because they're done in asphalt, which is totally.

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That's the old fashion line.

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Do that.

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They can crack tomorrow after playing with today.

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But post tension is what you want because they're going to last you.

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Every so many years, five or six years you're going to resurface.

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So when they get a little slit or discolored, the windscreens look wonderful and I truly

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agree with whoever took them down, or the country we live in, a lot of places they

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flap them down in the wintertime is taken down because we get too much wind in the spring

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with the storms and then they pop them back up once the bad weather gets out of the way.

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that way you save your vences and over because they will, if you get a good win, and the win screens will last longer.

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Tell us roughly how many kids, how many participants you regularly have that you're working with between adults and kids?

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I usually have a deal.

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The adults are slower. They usually start participating once they see their kids and they say,

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I want to sign up, but I want to sign up. Usually the adults I might have three or four.

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And it depends on the years, you don't ever know. I've had years where I've had the mixers and I've had a lot of them.

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And I have times where I don't have that many. But on the kids I usually have eight to ten kids.

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And that's broken up per age, you got, I have more in the younger group, as they get

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in the middle school, I'm just gonna get in the high school, usually have less, but you

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don't want to have too many as they're teaching growth because you can't handle it.

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Usually anything, over 10, we push in it, as you want to be able to make sure that the

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is there. It's can listen that they can learn. You can't do it once you get past that.

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There are times in the past where I've had and we get hot heavy because as it gets warmer,

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we'll get more people signing up. At that time, I've had the past. I've had somebody come in

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all through the city's certification stuff and they've helped me out.

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I said you also helped coach the middle school team.

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I also coach the middle school team.

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How many kids are playing at the middle school?

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I have 15 this year.

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And every one of those kids can easily be transferred over.

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And I'm actually, even though I didn't do the high school,

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I have reached out and asked me questions.

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I know a lot of the players.

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So, eventually, if you look at other cities,

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I can tell you I know the teaching pros and coyerval in German town.

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It all falls back and the students will come if they see you as a teaching pro for the school system and the city.

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So it is an advantage.

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Most of the middle school players are all brand new and that's a lot of it.

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They're new, they're going to take a lot of instruction as they get more interested in the sport.

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They'll take even more instruction.

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The facilities, the information I got here, this was just an estimate, and on this guy,

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he's building courts.

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He's about 30 now, I think, and he grew up in the tennis world at the racket club.

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He married a young lady, and they moved down the hat.

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He's burned, but he does a lot of courts in this area.

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He does a lot, and I don't know if I put it on there, you can go and I think it's Instagram.

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He does a lot for the universities, all throughout the regional area, the high schools.

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I think he's done some stuff for the business.

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You brought this to the school board?

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Again, about two weeks ago, he was the first time I got a call from the assistant principal,

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and we're kind of quizzing me on the number of calls.

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And what they thought, and I told them about USDA rules, regulations, and what I thought they needed.

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You know, I see, and all those facilities over there, because I know they're joined.

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I mean, actually, I see six or eight courts. You could do six.

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And again, like they do, the other sports, they're, at least that's what I was told.

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They're Monday through Friday, until six o'clock, they belong to the school.

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You're in the day, you know.

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Yeah, except that's not how it's working and all.

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It's not how it's working.

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That's what they told us right here.

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It's like it was a heavy topic last month.

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Ah, okay.

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Two separate issues here.

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That's fine.

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Then I won't go there.

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Yeah, that's where I was told last year that that's what the goal was.

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But, um, and I know that some private schools are trying to do it that way.

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They get issues.

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I know St. George's, for example, they try to have, they do clinics in the daytime for adults

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to come in there, but then they get adults come at the school yard and that's a security

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issue.

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I opinion, I'm not calling it, that's their business, but then afterwards, you know, the kids

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use them for their whatever classes that they use them for and or for school play.

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Who's the school play in practice that now?

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We do the works and records and after I finish my clinic I go usually for an hour and

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Sunday and I give them some practice and if I can find a non-prime time because that usually

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five thirty or six. It's a clock the adult start coming. They want to get on the courts,

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especially now that the days are long. So I try to get them in and out of there and say,

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look, we're out of here. We've got to let everybody get on the courts. But most of my try to get,

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again, my practice is I try to do when I'm there on Sunday's outside of my clinic time.

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And I don't take up court time or the public.

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And from a supply standpoint, I mean, we got everything.

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Now I know we've got one net right now that probably needs replacing on the far court and the

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scoreboards unfortunately the pegs are somebody's taking the pegs off which of course it

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happens. I know that and so you really technically can't totally keep score but those scoreboards

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have been great because they held up really well and they hold up in the weather really well.

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extra pegs by the way. That's all we really need on one for each. And I don't have

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a, I know the rest room, I will bring this up. The rest room of the now. Only running

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a one situation, security standpoint that bothered me, where I came up on the court one

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Sunday, and there was a person taking a nap on the bench, and she had been driving down

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road and she obviously used the restroom clean up or do whatever it went dirty but she was

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there and asked her where she was from and she needed help and gave her some money and said

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if you want to go down out of the station right there I'll leave her you know drive you down

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or you can walk down she says I'll walk down and I'm like working away but I've never really

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a security issue there. It would be nice for that park to have lights.

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I think we all know is road right there would be realized to have a couple of speed bumps.

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There's a car's flat

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regular basis. It scares me with the kids out there.

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I appreciate your

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So

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what I'd like to do is actually jump a little bit ahead into our next section of new business will come back to old business.

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We'll do the same with our chair program. Again, chair antennas are contracted, where we work with an outside company to offer the program.

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So, what we'll do is have our chair contractor as Candace come up and we'll talk a little bit about where we've been and where we want to go with chair.

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I've been with the wreck chair program now for three years and when I got the program it was a little smaller.

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I think we started off with what when I came in they didn't have a competitive we tried to go with competitive at that time.

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I think we had maybe eight or 10 girls for competitive and then for the wreck we had I want to say

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16 and

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then so from there we didn't do basketball when I came in the first guess I've been here three years

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so yeah the first year they didn't do basketball and then last season we picked up to 25 girls

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for last 25 girls for the football and this past season we got 50 girls for football, just

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the long and we didn't do competitive last year as well because we didn't have enough numbers

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for the competitive but we did do basketball and we had 15 so we started season before last

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with basketball, giving them the opportunity to do both. Some of the girls do both, some girls

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don't do the football because they're doing other sports but then they move forward to doing

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basketball if they don't do football. So they have an option to do one of the other and most of the

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girls will do both. So our goal this year is to push for competitive. We are trying to get more girls out

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to do that and I think when they hear the competitiveness they think it's more like middle school

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we're going to Orlando and they're doing a lot more competitions. We're pushing for maybe

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three competitions or three performances. There's a regionals here for all of the school teams

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and right teams across the city and that is usually going to be at the end of October.

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They have not put the data out yet for that one. So I've been looking to see when they will have

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but normally it's the end of October or the first weekend in November and there is also another

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competition that is here locally as well called an on-core competition and that date is set for

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let's see.

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February the third and the fourth. Now being with REC usually they would only compete the

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one day, which would be the February the third.

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Sometimes it will be a two-day competition.

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Sometimes it can be a one-day competition.

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And then I was also wanting them to perform

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for the middle school show night.

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That's usually in February right before we got

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in Nationals, they come and do the show night with the middle school.

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And then we also do, I work from Memphis Pride all start.

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and we do a showcase in November and that's kind of like a proceed for youth

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villages. So that also will help do like a sponsorship to give back to those kids.

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So that is our goal is to push for competitive this year. We're trying to get more

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numbers out and right now we practice in the summer at the clubhouse and then during

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The school year, we practice at the middle school.

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We rent out the space, and we also have to use their mats as well.

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There's something, I'm going to sing out of it.

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How can we help push a competitive, like, what do you think is keeping that from a current?

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I guess.

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I think the cost is one thing,

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and so the cost is what is kind of like pushing people

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the other direction, just how much it costs, and then maybe advertising, trying to push out more

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of the advertising to get the kids out before the competitive team. And then there are so many other

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activities and sports that a lot of kids want to partake in, so that could be another thing,

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but I think the cost if we could find a way to do some kind of fundraising or do something that

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we'll help with the cost.

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What is the cost?

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Cost differential between the wreck and competitive.

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OK, so each season for recreation is about $150.

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And then competitive is $750.

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Alan, when we came in and took it over,

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that first year it was $1,000.

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What all, I'm cheerleader, stupid.

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I'm sorry.

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The one score, like I don't know, what makes that $600 difference, I guess, is.

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Well, so it's not actually $600 difference in here's why.

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Or REC programs are rolled into the competitive program, so you're actually getting the $300 worth

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of REC in the competitive already, so then the real difference is $400 over the $2.

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programs, right? You're also getting double the practice and then some, that's part of it,

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and then the additional fees go into actually registering the girls into the three competitions

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that we try and go. Now they are regional, you know, so it wouldn't be far outside of Shelby County,

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If it's going to happen, but for sure, not outside West Tensee.

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I mean, you guys got it down to $750 Cudos, because that is cheap when it comes to cheerleading,

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that is super cheap.

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So the 750 is, my question is, so as we did 50 football cheerleaders last year now, what

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grade levels are lose?

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Can I garden two?

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Okay, gotcha.

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I mean, fourth I'm sorry.

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and how many fifth graders do we have?

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Fourth graders coming up to fifth grade. How many of them tried out for the cheer team for middle school?

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Actually, the fourth graders that tried out didn't do wreck. Why had one girl? They did wreck. She quit mid-season

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because of the sign. She couldn't handle the sign, so she ended up going through all starts here.

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So I did pick up three or four fourth graders, but one of the fourth graders, her sister

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cheered right, but she didn't, her little sister.

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So it does, it is a feeder.

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I have had multiple kids in the past now, even some of those kids that were on the competitive

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before I took over. I helped out a little bit that year. Those kids are still

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cheering to this day on the middle school team. So it is a feeder program, but I

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think that once we get them in the door on the wreck level and kind of getting a

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feel of what they're doing and how competition is, it will help get them to the

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next level. So once they come to middle school, they're already prepared.

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It's the same coaching style, same thing, and they will know what to do.

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A couple of quick questions.

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So if they're actually middle school cheer for fifth graders?

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Yes.

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So we actually do have that with the middle school, which is different from the other sports.

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Thank you for that clarification.

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And if the assumption is that cost is the greatest barrier to entry.

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Is it, I mean, again, you'll know my world is not, I'm right there with you, Jenny, I don't know.

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I'm right, no, which is fantastic.

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But a lot of competitive sports, the fees are not due all up front.

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Now because this goes through Lakeland, all the fees due up front, or is there the, is there the,

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No, we, for competitive, no, wreck is a one and done payment.

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But for competitive we offer a two payment and a three payment option, so they would pay the third down and then pay another third

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I think it's scheduled for like August beginning of August and then there's another payment that's like October 1st or something along those lines

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so that it's spread a little bit better

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throughout the season. So we're currently

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rolling right now for next year. And the reason for that is we have the

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cheerfitting for the uniforms. Second week of May, I think, the 9th, the 9th

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sunright. The 9th, I think, is the right day. And so we have to do that very early

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because everyone else is getting their uniforms about that time. And there's just

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just a huge butt backlog of stuff coming out of the factory.

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And so we have to do everything in May.

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And then first week of June, excuse me,

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the first week of July or so, we get started

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with practices.

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Rack will practice once a week.

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Competitive would be a twice a week.

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And then we kind of get going.

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There are second round of signups.

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I mean, given the nature of Lakeland,

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when you see families move in and out,

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I mean, especially military families that come here,

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are we missing out on providing an opportunity because

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I don't mean military family here may not.

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I don't think we do because we don't shut off

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registration.

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We just make sure that they understand,

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you know, we'll get their sizes.

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We'll send it off if they're going to get a uniform.

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We try and pair some of those up with

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girls who are leaving the program and moving on to the middle

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school or leaving the area or whatever this case may be

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to try and get them uniforms. Now we've been trying to over the last couple of years work up a stock

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of extra uniform pieces so that we have the ability to shift sizes and things.

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Sometimes and this is nothing against the dad. I was a cheer dad for a year so this is also you know

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me too but sometimes you'll have a dad who will bring the kid the cheerleader to the practice

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the fitting. I don't know what is happening because they're, you know, their

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wife takes care of all of that because they're clueless, like I am clueless with

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any of my girl's stuff.

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I happen to cross all sports, not just cheerleading. I watch my world is wearing a

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medium and baseball right now.

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So, you know, so we have that happen. We've been, we've been trying to narrow

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down the issues with that, and so we are going to actually be standing right next to the

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uniform vendor this year and writing down our own note, okay, well this girl said that

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she wants this size skirt and she wants this size shell and so on. So we know what we're comparing

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it to when the vendor sends us the stuff, right? And so then we can say, okay, well yes,

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this, what they have is accurate with what we had, or the dead initial it, so they make sure

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that they can't go.

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That's the plan.

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But Susie really, she said an extra small, but now she's a medium.

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And sometimes there are issues with the fact that there's Abby, and Abby, oh, and Abby

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Q, and whatever other Abby's, you know, my daughter had, I think,

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My daughter, Matty, was one of the cheerleaders and there were at least two other Matty's in the same program.

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So sometimes that is disconnect and so we're working with our vendor to try and streamline that out.

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Of course, COVID was just a cluster all over the place with all of that because they're normal six to eight weeks turned into 12 to 14 weeks.

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turnaround because they had half-staff and they weren't, you know, when a shift would go down,

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the whole shift would go down and, you know, there was, that was a nightmare in and of itself.

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So we're trying to smooth all that out. We do try and keep, so we moved in and took over

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the program several years ago.

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A plan was to replace the uniforms every three years within

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style. The style that we've been using has not gone out of style or not gone out of

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circulation. And so we've been able to just say, you know what we're going to stick with

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this as long as we can, so that a girl who is aging into fifth grade possibly hopefully

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moving to the school team on to a younger sister can sell it to a neighbor. And then

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You know, hopefully we can combat some of those issues, but anyway, so that's generally

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a challenge or that we're constantly battling and we think we've got a better situation

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set up.

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But if you're 750 dollars, even for the competitive side, to me that sounds like may just

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we need a better way of reaching, because I'm sorry, but it's not just

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sheer, everybody has kids that play all sports $750 is not a huge

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investment when you're talking about a competitive rate.

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If I was looking at it and I say, oh, that's $600 difference. No, you're gonna

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play, you're gonna do a wreck. So could we break it down a little bit different

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where, what are you, you know, the registration fee is low, and then cost includes three competitions

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at this fee and the uniform at this fee. So you're understanding what you're actually

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in charge for for the big difference. We try and clarify that in the description.

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And so we say with competitive, it includes, you know, registration and in the program for this season,

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the competitive squad will compete in three local competitions or performances during the season as well as the recreation squad.

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We're already saying you're already, we're trying to provide all these things to you as part of this package.

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We may be phrased a little bit different of if something's $2 versus $1.99, kind of thing.

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So if we phrased it as your registration fee as this much, and then additional fees that

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are included are this, this,

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this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this,

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this extra money, just for an extra practice a week or even though it's there, some people respond

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better when it's broken down a little bit different.

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through

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programs, struggling to get people in the competitive level?

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I mean, is it?

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I just need to get the numbers for, like, to field competitive teams.

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For the middle school?

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Well, I guess for this, like, I guess kind of like, A through fourth.

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Is what we're looking at?

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Yes.

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Well, I guess compared to, like, with middle school, so, for instance,

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when I first took over middle school,

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Every competitive squad is going to be building our rebuilding year or a building year and

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When I first took over the program at the middle school

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Our numbers were completely down. They were I think maybe they had 12 girls

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Maybe 15 now. I have 24 girls

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So and then this year is a building year for the high school because it's new

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So sometimes when you're introducing something new, or you are reintroducing it, it does start off small, and then we have to work our way back up.

437
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So I was, I'm okay if we even get 10 girls. You know, you still can go and compete and do something with at least 10 to 12 girls, just to start somewhere to build the program back up.

438
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:47,020
So they know that it's still here, we still offer the competitive side, not just wreck for football and that way we can build it back up because it's got to start somewhere.

439
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,260
You're not going to probably go straight through the door with 25 girls.

440
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:59,040
Just like when I came in, it was a building year for the wreck program and now we're up to 50 girls.

441
00:40:59,720 --> 00:41:03,900
So it has to start somewhere and then grow from there and build.

442
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:14,880
Right, no, I think the issue that at least when you look at this is that the wreck number has grown exponentially year over year.

443
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:19,180
There was 13 girls competitive cheer that year before you came in.

444
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:20,700
And now there's none.

445
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:23,640
So I think that's the disconnect.

446
00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:29,320
Because we're trying to figure out how are we able to grow exponentially on that.

447
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:35,780
Yes, but not being non-existent period in the competitive aspect. It's kind of like at that level

448
00:41:35,780 --> 00:41:42,640
You know, it could be the parents, you know, because you're you're still trying to figure out what your kids are into and what their thing is and yes, you know

449
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,500
They may kind of lean more

450
00:41:44,500 --> 00:41:45,940
Rect level until

451
00:41:46,620 --> 00:41:51,980
They know that they're going to be interested to take off like once they get to middle school and well, no, I have some little the

452
00:41:51,980 --> 00:41:52,620
I agree

453
00:41:52,620 --> 00:42:02,420
Can we go to kindergarten first and second, I wouldn't expect those moms that want to put their kid in a competitive environment when it comes to cheer, but third and fourth grade.

454
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:14,020
That's when the, you know, your girls know, hey mom, dad, this is something that I'm interested in to where they could start developing those skills to where when fifth grade comes up, sixth grade, seventh grade, et cetera.

455
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:21,060
They've got building blocks, just like you guys do with softball or baseball or football or tennis, whatever.

456
00:42:22,460 --> 00:42:24,860
You know, you pick an age and you go for it there.

457
00:42:25,140 --> 00:42:26,460
So you don't get in the garden for a second.

458
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:27,980
Why don't you know, stay at rec.

459
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:32,980
Third and fourth really push trying to get them in the competitive aspect world

460
00:42:32,980 --> 00:42:37,020
to where they understand if this is something that you're going to want to, you know,

461
00:42:37,660 --> 00:42:39,260
strive for in middle school.

462
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:40,780
This is what's going to be expected.

463
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:42,380
This is the minimum.

464
00:42:42,380 --> 00:42:53,540
If I can address the competitive change, obviously the fiscal 21, that was our fall of COVID.

465
00:42:54,580 --> 00:42:57,580
Because our fiscal year is July 1 through June 30.

466
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:06,260
So when it says fiscal whatever, that's all of the previous year and spring of the year that's represented up there.

467
00:43:06,260 --> 00:43:14,660
Okay, nobody knew even if competitions would take place at that point, that year.

468
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:22,900
And so we chose not to go down the road of the competitive program, because we didn't

469
00:43:22,900 --> 00:43:32,220
want to try, but at one point when we still didn't have any competitions on the schedule,

470
00:43:32,220 --> 00:43:35,800
So you convert it everybody down to the wreck level.

471
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:40,380
Yeah, 10 girls, that's so interesting for a competitive.

472
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:48,820
So we removed competitive that year because we still couldn't offer that as an option.

473
00:43:50,580 --> 00:44:00,820
And then in fiscal 22, most of the girls that had been involved in fiscal 21 moved to the

474
00:44:00,820 --> 00:44:09,460
school. And so there were few kids who actually continued from 21 to 22. We're some, I believe,

475
00:44:10,140 --> 00:44:16,940
but there were few kids that that continued. And so we've been rebuilding. We feel like this is

476
00:44:16,940 --> 00:44:24,340
the year that we can restart the competitive program. So it's not because we've made the adjustment.

477
00:44:24,340 --> 00:44:31,280
So, fiscal 21 was officially Memphis Pride running the program, and this was our coach.

478
00:44:32,500 --> 00:44:42,760
In 21, she created her own company in order to keep the consistency with us and the school.

479
00:44:42,980 --> 00:44:49,720
We went with her, as the representatives, with her company, to provide the program.

480
00:44:49,820 --> 00:44:50,100
Yes.

481
00:44:50,100 --> 00:44:57,420
That's a bit of where that comes from.

482
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,960
Now I'm understanding it, I'm okay.

483
00:45:00,750 --> 00:45:08,670
But based on how I'm understanding the way that the billed up to competitive cheer, that it's due football, then basketball, then you continue on with the competitions, right?

484
00:45:09,230 --> 00:45:19,690
Well, it's in the same season. So football and competitive will be the same season. They will be, they can do both. So they would do all games in compete as well.

485
00:45:19,690 --> 00:45:23,670
So I guess the part that helped me understand

486
00:45:23,670 --> 00:45:25,670
because I'm wondering if this will help us to solve

487
00:45:25,670 --> 00:45:30,210
for the competitive lack of participation.

488
00:45:30,810 --> 00:45:33,350
That's a big drop-off between football and basketball.

489
00:45:34,350 --> 00:45:36,470
Is it supposed to be like, is this just,

490
00:45:36,570 --> 00:45:38,690
hey, we're indoors, so it's a lot more confined.

491
00:45:38,930 --> 00:45:40,190
We can't have as many cheerleaders.

492
00:45:40,710 --> 00:45:43,370
Because that number is almost more,

493
00:45:43,610 --> 00:45:45,890
as is me to have even more questions than why

494
00:45:45,890 --> 00:45:48,550
is there, why do we not have as many people interested

495
00:45:48,550 --> 00:45:53,550
and competitive gear, because maybe if we can solve for keeping those that are doing football,

496
00:45:54,130 --> 00:45:57,230
continue through basketball, then we might actually have more of it.

497
00:45:57,430 --> 00:45:58,670
I will speak to that.

498
00:46:00,130 --> 00:46:01,410
Again, I'm here today.

499
00:46:02,510 --> 00:46:09,710
There's a limited number of football games, six, eight, there's 30 basketball games.

500
00:46:10,410 --> 00:46:11,530
There's a much bigger commitment.

501
00:46:12,770 --> 00:46:17,950
What happens is you may be willing to do all games.

502
00:46:18,530 --> 00:46:23,310
and not willing to go to a basketball game two times a week for three months.

503
00:46:24,730 --> 00:46:28,230
That's the biggest difference that at least from the people that I'll talk to.

504
00:46:28,310 --> 00:46:29,670
That's what we see.

505
00:46:29,850 --> 00:46:34,110
We do have some of the parents here and so.

506
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:37,400
I grabbed the mic.

507
00:46:38,300 --> 00:46:40,040
And to answer your question really quick,

508
00:46:40,260 --> 00:46:44,320
also a lot of the kids during the basketball season,

509
00:46:44,340 --> 00:46:49,080
there's other season sports too that they want to partake in

510
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:55,900
they are offseason during football. So some kids that do the football, they do that one because

511
00:46:55,900 --> 00:47:01,400
they don't have the other sports that they want to do, but during springtime those are the sports

512
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:07,640
that they want to do so they tend to not do the basketball cheer. And also on the competitive side,

513
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:13,380
the 13 girls that you see on the number, those girls also moved up to middle school. Those are

514
00:47:13,380 --> 00:47:18,200
the ones that are saying so that year, all of those girls pretty much that cheered on the competitive

515
00:47:18,860 --> 00:47:31,200
They're now on the middle school competitive team and have been there since 5th grade, and the year of 2021 is like Pat said we had 10 girls, but competitions never

516
00:47:32,060 --> 00:47:36,320
Rich got the date set for us to compete during that season.

517
00:47:36,320 --> 00:47:37,160
So

518
00:47:40,230 --> 00:47:42,530
my name is Kimberly Derek Shawney.

519
00:47:43,410 --> 00:47:50,090
I was the volunteer mom, I guess, along with Rachel Goss,

520
00:47:50,210 --> 00:47:51,570
for the past two years.

521
00:47:52,970 --> 00:47:55,830
I have two daughters that competed at Empton,

522
00:47:55,830 --> 00:47:59,590
compete, sorry, cheered in the wrecked cheer program.

523
00:48:00,890 --> 00:48:04,430
My girls currently are in first and second grade.

524
00:48:04,430 --> 00:48:13,910
So, my youngest started in kindergarten, and my oldest was in first, we did the,

525
00:48:14,670 --> 00:48:20,770
um, something that we didn't mention in these statistics is this is split amongst two

526
00:48:20,770 --> 00:48:26,410
different football teams. So, it's not 50 girls on the sideline at one time. We had them split

527
00:48:26,410 --> 00:48:32,810
between the eight you and the ten you football teams, and I believe this year possibly, according

528
00:48:32,810 --> 00:48:36,170
and tomorrow has been we may have a 12-u so there would be

529
00:48:36,170 --> 00:48:37,510
chance of three different.

530
00:48:37,570 --> 00:48:38,630
We're working on it, yep.

531
00:48:38,630 --> 00:48:41,870
I mean, possibly, but I'm saying that is something.

532
00:48:42,210 --> 00:48:43,470
So there are definitely needs to be numbers.

533
00:48:43,890 --> 00:48:48,510
Football is a great time to cheer and they love it.

534
00:48:49,270 --> 00:48:51,850
Of course, my girls were cheering for their brothers.

535
00:48:52,370 --> 00:48:53,750
So it was a lot of fun.

536
00:48:53,950 --> 00:48:57,270
We participated in basketball cheer the first year.

537
00:48:58,130 --> 00:49:00,190
And my girls also played basketball.

538
00:49:00,190 --> 00:49:07,610
So they cheered football, cheered basketball, and played basketball all through parks and

539
00:49:07,610 --> 00:49:08,490
erect the first year.

540
00:49:08,910 --> 00:49:12,190
The second year we did not cheered basketball,

541
00:49:14,430 --> 00:49:17,230
partially due to them playing basketball.

542
00:49:19,610 --> 00:49:24,790
And partially due to their friends weren't going to be doing basketball cheer and they want

543
00:49:24,790 --> 00:49:26,090
to do with their friends, right?

544
00:49:27,870 --> 00:49:30,330
We did not do competitive.

545
00:49:31,790 --> 00:49:34,470
It wasn't offered to us the first year.

546
00:49:34,510 --> 00:49:39,190
The second year, the numbers just didn't look very good to us personally.

547
00:49:40,250 --> 00:49:44,070
So it wasn't, we weren't really twisted, I guess.

548
00:49:44,930 --> 00:49:47,130
Because it's really hard to build.

549
00:49:47,450 --> 00:49:49,350
I think because we don't have anything to show.

550
00:49:49,910 --> 00:49:51,030
So there's nothing to say.

551
00:49:51,110 --> 00:49:53,110
Hey, we did it last year and this is what it looks like.

552
00:49:53,110 --> 00:49:59,270
The reason why there was 50 is because we had a great program that your prior and everyone saw on social media.

553
00:50:00,070 --> 00:50:06,370
And wherever, oh, you guys did it. I was asked constantly. Make sure you let me know when the sign-ups are, it looks a lot of fun.

554
00:50:06,730 --> 00:50:11,650
So it looks like fun. You want to do it. That's the draw. We don't have anything to show for competitive.

555
00:50:13,650 --> 00:50:18,850
Migros are involved in a lot of other activities. So I don't know if we will ever do competitive.

556
00:50:19,590 --> 00:50:22,450
We demand to do competitive dance currently,

557
00:50:24,810 --> 00:50:27,070
so that is my side of it.

558
00:50:27,070 --> 00:50:31,450
I know you guys talked about uniforms and having registration, sorry I'm trying to

559
00:50:31,450 --> 00:50:36,090
hurry up my first graders at her teacher at Bellevue, so I'm trying to run through all

560
00:50:36,090 --> 00:50:37,890
of my speaking points.

561
00:50:39,570 --> 00:50:47,530
So the uniform situation our first year was slightly a nightmare, so I think Pat did try

562
00:50:47,530 --> 00:50:54,510
a comedy, had did try a comedy and leave it open as long as he could, but that was partially

563
00:50:54,510 --> 00:50:59,770
causing issues because Burst City texts a very long time to make these really nice, you

564
00:50:59,770 --> 00:51:06,190
know, we have very nice uniforms. I mean, very nice. They're not a T-shirt and whatever they're

565
00:51:06,190 --> 00:51:09,850
not red. I mean, I've seen some other neighboring communities and they're like a T-shirt

566
00:51:09,850 --> 00:51:17,110
and a skirt. We have very nice uniforms, okay? So if we keep leaving it open, then the next

567
00:51:17,110 --> 00:51:21,870
the batch of girls doesn't have the uniforms, then we get to the first game and it's like,

568
00:51:22,030 --> 00:51:26,530
hey, can y'all just wear the T-shirt and shorts? No, we just paid $300 for this uniform.

569
00:51:26,570 --> 00:51:30,930
We're going to wear it every day as many times as many times as many times as many times as I'm

570
00:51:30,930 --> 00:51:34,130
out of the 300, I'm kind of, but they're going to wear it as many times they're pants.

571
00:51:34,770 --> 00:51:39,470
So, their definitely needs to be a cut-off. For sure, one-hundred percent has to be cut-off,

572
00:51:39,650 --> 00:51:45,730
whatever the deadline is to get the uniform in time to cheer for the first game. So, that is one

573
00:51:45,730 --> 00:51:56,290
issue that you guys brought up. So it is hard. I'm really big on yes. Let's include all the new people that come, but that is, and that we definitely had issue with.

574
00:51:57,610 --> 00:52:04,390
I'm turning the thing else that you guys addressed that I can hurry through. Do you have any questions for me doing this for a couple years?

575
00:52:06,010 --> 00:52:11,190
We enjoyed it. I think Candace is amazing. Her assistant is amazing.

576
00:52:13,910 --> 00:52:15,390
We, me and Rachel have

577
00:52:15,390 --> 00:52:23,210
gotten to be the sideline cheermoms and we do not like to do that part of it. That was a difficult

578
00:52:23,210 --> 00:52:29,610
thing that a role doesn't listen to you and the only other thing I can think of to say is not

579
00:52:29,610 --> 00:52:32,450
every girl, it is a record program.

580
00:52:32,850 --> 00:52:35,950
They don't have to be skilled, but not every girl

581
00:52:36,730 --> 00:52:40,390
has the ability to stay in there for an hour in the sun

582
00:52:40,390 --> 00:52:44,030
or the cold and not be sitting down.

583
00:52:44,090 --> 00:52:45,130
So it's kind of like some parents

584
00:52:45,130 --> 00:52:48,010
I think we're doing as babysitting and dropping off.

585
00:52:48,850 --> 00:52:50,850
And I know that's hard on Candace

586
00:52:50,850 --> 00:52:53,590
because they're either too young or not mature enough

587
00:52:53,590 --> 00:52:55,530
to stand on the sideline the whole time.

588
00:52:55,750 --> 00:52:56,790
And I think that was difficult.

589
00:52:56,790 --> 00:52:59,750
And sometimes we had to run into that as the cheer mom.

590
00:53:00,490 --> 00:53:02,170
Like this little girl doesn't want to be there.

591
00:53:02,230 --> 00:53:04,730
It doesn't, it's tired or it's hungry or whatever.

592
00:53:05,190 --> 00:53:07,050
So that is something that we do need to look at.

593
00:53:07,610 --> 00:53:10,410
That was a negative, and that we did have to do a lot of that.

594
00:53:12,070 --> 00:53:13,250
Well, Rachel speak.

595
00:53:15,780 --> 00:53:16,420
I'm Rachel Goss.

596
00:53:16,580 --> 00:53:18,160
I have a first grader.

597
00:53:19,060 --> 00:53:21,340
I have the kid who only wants to be a cheerleader.

598
00:53:21,800 --> 00:53:23,400
We've begged her to do all the things.

599
00:53:23,600 --> 00:53:24,780
And she's like, I'm just going to cheer.

600
00:53:26,140 --> 00:53:27,780
So we've done the right program for two years.

601
00:53:27,780 --> 00:53:57,760
So this is my take on competitive, and I don't know if you agree with me Candace, but you know, when we were growing up, we had SOS, I don't know if any of you are meant to be as sure we use sports, and that's how you learn to cheer, and you can beat it from first grade on, you competed in that role straight in the middle school and straight into high school, and I think that some of the really great school programs that we have here in Memphis, Houston, I went to court over back in the day, but we had really competitive teams on the national level, and I think it's because a lot of these girls, I cheered with when I was in first grade, and we just said,

602
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:05,740
made her away through that has really dot-out and so I think what you see is these little girls who really want to cheer are going all start

603
00:54:05,740 --> 00:54:09,200
So like I'm not a little girl to try it out for Candice's all starting last night

604
00:54:10,460 --> 00:54:13,260
Because they just want to cheer and they want to compete and

605
00:54:14,140 --> 00:54:18,940
They, you know, my little girl Campbell. She likes direct side because she's with her friends, but she's ready to

606
00:54:19,580 --> 00:54:23,120
Kind of take it to the next level. So I told her she had to wait till she was going into second grade

607
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:29,900
So she did that. So that's kind of math take on it. I tried to help Candace last year kind of like get the word out, you know, for competitive.

608
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:38,480
We did have a try out, but the numbers just weren't there. And so I don't think that you're going to have people like you were saying explaining on the website.

609
00:54:38,640 --> 00:54:46,420
I think that's a good idea because there was some confusion as to like, well, what is this and how what's the commitment level was more of the confusion than even the money I think.

610
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:52,280
But I don't think you're going to have a lot of little girls who you were like, let's just share and all of a sudden wanting to be competitive.

611
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:55,640
I think that it's a different type situation.

612
00:54:55,980 --> 00:55:00,680
So I would love to see school cheer come back around as more competitive, especially in like

613
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:04,780
one as a rebuilding. My brother was the first graduating class of Gordova Hospital.

614
00:55:05,140 --> 00:55:09,600
So I'm very, I grew up with that. We are the the hospital and building that kind of stuff.

615
00:55:09,620 --> 00:55:13,420
And I know it takes um, but um, Parks and Rec is a big runway for that.

616
00:55:13,980 --> 00:55:17,320
And to keep race point, you know, when we started really promoting on social media,

617
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:21,080
like our kids are having fun with cheerleading, that's when you saw the jump 25 to 50.

618
00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:24,900
and y'all have done a great job just getting information out there and making sure people

619
00:55:24,900 --> 00:55:30,760
are in the know and that's half the battle as well. But I'm not confident that we can

620
00:55:30,760 --> 00:55:35,580
have a competitive children team. And it's not your fault. I'm just not confident that we can do it.

621
00:55:35,700 --> 00:55:39,880
So somebody like me who would competitive cheer has decided to go the all-star route just

622
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:46,860
as we know it's going to happen. And so that's kind of like my take on on how we on why competitive

623
00:55:46,860 --> 00:55:50,620
is the way that it is. I don't think it's anybody's fall. I think it's just going to take

624
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:58,600
time and there's just not that competition at that younger age through a parks and many

625
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:02,920
of the parks and park programs. No GFL has a very successful cheerleading program and it's partially

626
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:07,960
because of sheer numbers. They have a million little cheerleading squad and so they're able to even

627
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:12,480
compete at the rec level because they compete against each other and we don't have that hearing

628
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:13,820
like when that's nobody's fault.

629
00:56:14,720 --> 00:56:18,000
But I think moving forward, the thing that I think is going to be

630
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:20,880
most important for you, Candace,

631
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:22,860
is just be able to scale this thing appropriately.

632
00:56:23,700 --> 00:56:24,600
You're a one person.

633
00:56:24,940 --> 00:56:26,860
And it's amazing to see how the girls respond

634
00:56:26,860 --> 00:56:27,960
when Candace is there.

635
00:56:28,460 --> 00:56:30,360
They just like, they're like little soldiers.

636
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:31,560
They do what they're supposed to do.

637
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:34,260
When she's not there, it does not work well.

638
00:56:34,780 --> 00:56:37,620
And having consistency in who her assistants are,

639
00:56:37,660 --> 00:56:40,200
I think it's a very important, I think it's okay for Candace

640
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:42,140
to not have to be at every football game.

641
00:56:42,740 --> 00:56:44,840
When you're doing right here, the football game

642
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:45,600
is your performances.

643
00:56:46,340 --> 00:56:47,280
That is your competition.

644
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:49,500
You know, all these little girls parents come

645
00:56:49,500 --> 00:56:51,000
and sit in the stands and watch them cheer.

646
00:56:51,500 --> 00:56:54,220
And when you've got cheer, mothers, calling cheers,

647
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:55,580
it's just not a good situation.

648
00:56:55,780 --> 00:56:58,120
So if we can help through Parks and Rec

649
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:01,320
to help her have consistency in whom her assistants are,

650
00:57:01,580 --> 00:57:04,580
especially if we have three squads, you know,

651
00:57:04,660 --> 00:57:07,160
last year we tried to practice together a little bit.

652
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:14,300
We probably admit to more than 30 girls at a practice is not a good situation either, especially when you're ranging from kindergarten or in the fourth grade.

653
00:57:15,060 --> 00:57:17,400
So that's that's math thing is how do we scale this?

654
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:23,160
How do we help Candace scale it so that it can be a program that's really a theater into the middle school?

655
00:57:23,980 --> 00:57:28,040
And there's lots of parental involvement in Lakeland, which is kind of bad thing.

656
00:57:28,740 --> 00:57:29,940
But that doesn't need to be our role.

657
00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:31,920
We don't need to be conscious here on the siderun.

658
00:57:32,260 --> 00:57:36,800
It's only $150, but you pay me enough money to do it.

659
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:42,520
So help me understand and Pat and Candace may be all can, as we've gone through each of the

660
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:43,640
sports.

661
00:57:43,700 --> 00:57:48,160
As I'm from tennis, which I think from the numbers that we're just shared today, it puts

662
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:52,600
it in a different situation, but do we have a single wreck program that does not involve

663
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:56,400
a tremendous amount of parent involvement from coaching and being on a, like I'm thinking

664
00:57:56,400 --> 00:58:00,280
through baseball, soccer, I mean, even football, right?

665
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:06,680
Like they're all parent coaches and I'm envisioning the chaos that is, both of our little

666
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:10,740
are doing over in baseball right now where I'm like thank you all need more

667
00:58:10,740 --> 00:58:16,840
dads. I think you need a one-to-one ratio over there. I'd say this one's kind of

668
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:24,800
middle of the road because the parents are not the ones doing the training doing

669
00:58:24,800 --> 00:58:30,100
the practices and the games and all that like with basketball and with with football

670
00:58:30,100 --> 00:58:36,660
the dads or the moms are the coaches and so there's of course that level of

671
00:58:36,660 --> 00:58:44,320
dedication and involvement in that, whereas with this one, it's still need to be

672
00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:48,460
involved or they still do become involved.

673
00:58:51,380 --> 00:58:54,220
But, and this and her assistance, and

674
00:58:54,220 --> 00:59:00,660
and there were several situations this last year that wouldn't happen every year.

675
00:59:01,620 --> 00:59:05,540
You know, Candace was out on maternity leave for a while and can't help that, she's

676
00:59:05,540 --> 00:59:12,800
take care of her baby. And so when we have that and then you know we had some tough conversations

677
00:59:12,800 --> 00:59:18,900
about who her assistant was on Saturday. And part of the problem was she had a really great

678
00:59:18,900 --> 00:59:25,080
assistant for practices but that assistant was involved in her own program on a Saturday morning

679
00:59:25,080 --> 00:59:30,700
when most of our games were. So she wasn't able to stay consistent and there was another assistant

680
00:59:30,700 --> 00:59:40,200
who was flaky, and so we had amazing moms who stepped up and not just these two ladies,

681
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:41,920
but there were several others.

682
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:00,920
Can you speak a little bit?

683
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:03,320
Yeah.

684
01:00:04,980 --> 01:00:08,060
Real quick, I understand that you guys have to leave you very shortly.

685
01:00:09,140 --> 01:00:10,560
But Ms. Goss?

686
01:00:10,600 --> 01:00:10,820
Yeah.

687
01:00:11,060 --> 01:00:11,420
Okay.

688
01:00:12,900 --> 01:00:17,580
You said that yours is the dollar that's since day one chair.

689
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:19,180
I want to be a chair later.

690
01:00:19,700 --> 01:00:22,480
You know, those exist every school year.

691
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:24,020
Okay, $750.

692
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:25,920
Competitive chair, right?

693
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:31,200
How much is it going to cost at pride?

694
01:00:33,100 --> 01:00:37,440
Yeah, that's the point I'm not saying that.

695
01:00:37,500 --> 01:00:41,400
The point I'm making is that it helps to advertise.

696
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:43,500
That can be a part of the advertising saying.

697
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:48,720
Because the parent, not only is it a better deal, but it's a stepping stone.

698
01:00:48,820 --> 01:00:53,180
It's a stepping stone at a discounted price to get them to where they're going.

699
01:00:53,180 --> 01:00:55,160
because whether it's middle school or pride,

700
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:57,240
it's pretty much going to be the same price.

701
01:00:57,600 --> 01:00:58,340
You know, it's good.

702
01:00:59,580 --> 01:00:59,920
And, and, and, and, and,

703
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:00,000
really,

704
01:01:02,500 --> 01:01:03,600
you don't, right, this is a good.

705
01:01:08,820 --> 01:01:12,320
Just don't have the, uh, and we would,

706
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:15,060
if we were starting up and I've mentioned about them,

707
01:01:15,060 --> 01:01:17,880
if we would just bring one competition to get it,

708
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:18,740
something that I know about,

709
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:21,080
but we do three, seven,

710
01:01:27,330 --> 01:01:29,790
and, typically, it's not three competitions,

711
01:01:29,930 --> 01:01:30,830
it's three performance.

712
01:01:31,410 --> 01:01:35,330
So, for there, it might be one to two competitions,

713
01:01:35,330 --> 01:01:42,550
the regionals, the encore one that I put on the table as one, and then if that's not the one

714
01:01:42,550 --> 01:01:48,570
we're going to do, it would still be the showcase with Memphis Pride and then a shownight. So it's

715
01:01:48,570 --> 01:01:56,330
three performances and mainly like one to two competitions, being that when you're doing competitive,

716
01:01:56,630 --> 01:02:02,130
doing one, you might as well not be competitive. If you're just going to do one,

717
01:02:03,550 --> 01:02:08,510
The whole point of being competitive is to get them learning how to be in front of a crowd,

718
01:02:09,010 --> 01:02:14,330
getting them to know how to perform, picking up a routine, picking up choreography, learning

719
01:02:14,330 --> 01:02:18,710
how to do stunts, learning how to do up your mid, putting it all together for two minutes

720
01:02:18,710 --> 01:02:23,090
and 30 seconds on that mat, and learning how to build with a team.

721
01:02:23,310 --> 01:02:24,190
That's what it's about.

722
01:02:24,390 --> 01:02:28,570
So once they get to middle school, they know how to be a middle school cheerleader.

723
01:02:28,570 --> 01:02:31,870
is not just about the sideline, they get the sideline,

724
01:02:32,050 --> 01:02:34,670
but they also have to know how to be a team player,

725
01:02:34,850 --> 01:02:37,970
how to work with teams, with kids on the team,

726
01:02:38,470 --> 01:02:41,210
how to be able to come in, learn material,

727
01:02:41,510 --> 01:02:43,190
and be able to perform the material.

728
01:02:43,550 --> 01:02:46,350
That's the whole point of starting the competitiveness,

729
01:02:46,710 --> 01:02:48,490
because a lot of the girls that come in the door

730
01:02:48,490 --> 01:02:51,970
for middle school, if they don't have that under their belt,

731
01:02:52,110 --> 01:02:54,830
is a little bit harder for them coming in the door

732
01:02:54,830 --> 01:02:57,150
than ones that have already competed

733
01:02:57,150 --> 01:02:59,270
and already had it under their belt.

734
01:03:00,110 --> 01:03:02,110
You know, I just did a quick search

735
01:03:02,110 --> 01:03:05,230
because it had been a while since I looked at it.

736
01:03:06,810 --> 01:03:09,070
The cheer program obviously works very closely

737
01:03:09,070 --> 01:03:10,490
with the Tackle Football Program.

738
01:03:12,190 --> 01:03:17,210
And there are cheer programs for some of the competition

739
01:03:17,210 --> 01:03:19,090
that we see in the MFL.

740
01:03:20,290 --> 01:03:24,410
And we are probably the most economical game in town,

741
01:03:24,410 --> 01:03:29,330
as far as any of those teams, especially the closest ones to us.

742
01:03:29,910 --> 01:03:41,370
Competitive is probably half or so versus another neighboring agency and, you know,

743
01:03:41,450 --> 01:03:47,270
wreck is right about in there, depending on which direction you go out 70.

744
01:03:48,790 --> 01:03:53,550
So we're we're trying to be economical just to make sure that kids are still coming in

745
01:03:53,550 --> 01:03:55,630
and it's like that, but.

746
01:03:56,030 --> 01:03:59,030
I have noticed with all the different neighboring

747
01:03:59,030 --> 01:04:02,910
wreck programs, everybody right now with the chair

748
01:04:02,910 --> 01:04:04,990
is struggling competitive.

749
01:04:06,410 --> 01:04:08,330
One of our neighboring wreck programs,

750
01:04:08,610 --> 01:04:12,570
they started off with doing competitive cheer team in wreck.

751
01:04:13,150 --> 01:04:16,030
And at this moment, they're no longer doing competitive either.

752
01:04:16,410 --> 01:04:19,650
I think that when the pandemic hit,

753
01:04:19,650 --> 01:04:23,450
I did kind of take a hit with the rent program.

754
01:04:25,550 --> 01:04:29,130
So I know that it is hard right now for a lot of people

755
01:04:29,130 --> 01:04:33,090
to want to do the competitive side when it comes to the younger ones.

756
01:04:33,670 --> 01:04:35,570
Like she said, some people do go to pride.

757
01:04:36,110 --> 01:04:38,230
But even there, we've taken a hit.

758
01:04:38,330 --> 01:04:39,490
You know, I'm at both places.

759
01:04:39,490 --> 01:04:41,410
So I kind of know the feel of everything.

760
01:04:41,950 --> 01:04:43,630
I'm over here and I'm over there.

761
01:04:43,770 --> 01:04:45,890
So I see both sides of it.

762
01:04:45,890 --> 01:04:47,670
And we've even lost numbers.

763
01:04:47,670 --> 01:04:58,070
just because cost is being one of the major things or some of the parents and then you know like you said before

764
01:04:58,070 --> 01:05:04,830
just knowing if it's going to fully be able to go through just with wreck programs.

765
01:05:05,330 --> 01:05:12,770
It's a little bit harder like you said you know this is not something that has been around for a very long time and then it has

766
01:05:13,310 --> 01:05:39,430
And then we're trying to pull it back in and build it up, but if we stick together and kind of do more of the advertising as a community and pull it together, I feel like we could get the numbers and push kids to want to do the competitive just by word of mouth, you know, because it's like you said I'm the same coach at the same place, you know, at Pride, but the cost is a whole lot more and the commitment is a whole lot more.

767
01:05:39,430 --> 01:05:48,070
but the experience could be the same on the put in and like I was thinking why you were sitting

768
01:05:48,070 --> 01:05:53,430
or talking and one of the coolest things like when we started a long time ago one of the coolest

769
01:05:53,430 --> 01:05:59,910
things was watching Sophie, it was a fifth grader go in and we weren't a part of it yet and we

770
01:05:59,910 --> 01:06:07,190
went to Memphis Pride and they did you know you donate stuff and you watch the show case and

771
01:06:07,190 --> 01:06:15,050
her eyes lit up and she saw these 15, 16, 17, 18-year-old girls just doing phenomenal things

772
01:06:15,050 --> 01:06:19,590
that she's never seen before. And ever since then she's been in love and now she's

773
01:06:19,590 --> 01:06:27,850
varsity at Arlington, she flies all over the place and all that. And even if you had to,

774
01:06:27,850 --> 01:06:32,870
you know, talk to Chris or whatever and make it to where part of the registration fee for

775
01:06:33,590 --> 01:06:43,990
is, you know, a $5 donation to the showcase and make it like a field trip for you and the girls to where they can go watch these girls that are, to me they're pros.

776
01:06:44,630 --> 01:06:51,370
Because I'm sorry, anytime you can go from your feet up in the air and do two or three twists and land back on your feet, that's, that's amazing.

777
01:06:51,930 --> 01:07:01,910
And a lot of them can do that. And if you see in these first, second, third year, you know, third graders, they go out there and see that in real life, not just somebody talking about it.

778
01:07:01,910 --> 01:07:07,750
not only television, they go and they watch it there, that can light a fire within some of these

779
01:07:07,750 --> 01:07:10,890
girls that you wouldn't know until you've seen till you've got them there.

780
01:07:11,270 --> 01:07:13,650
Yeah, and that's true, like that's what I've tried to do.

781
01:07:13,990 --> 01:07:20,350
It's just like she said, some of the kids are more committed to wanting to be that little girl

782
01:07:20,350 --> 01:07:25,390
and some, they want to do it just for fun, which is okay, you know, and that's why we have the

783
01:07:25,390 --> 01:07:31,030
wreck, because I've even sent, brought them to the showcases, you know, their kids came and

784
01:07:31,030 --> 01:07:34,350
There was a couple of parents that came like the basketball girls they came and they said

785
01:07:34,350 --> 01:07:38,130
that this year they want to do competitive, you know, but then when the time comes to sign

786
01:07:38,570 --> 01:07:42,150
up, who knows if they're going to do it, you know, I'm like, you do you want to do what this

787
01:07:42,150 --> 01:07:42,710
girl did?

788
01:07:42,950 --> 01:07:44,910
Did you see the middle school, you know, I'm trying to advertise.

789
01:07:45,490 --> 01:07:50,390
So I've sent out the show night when we do it before nationals like, hey, come watch us.

790
01:07:50,530 --> 01:07:54,750
Just so you can see what competitive is about and see if your little girl really wants to

791
01:07:54,750 --> 01:07:55,450
do it.

792
01:07:55,530 --> 01:07:57,570
You know, they'll come and they're like, wow, that was awesome.

793
01:07:57,570 --> 01:08:03,270
I want to do that, you know, so hopefully those times that we've done that, that does put

794
01:08:03,270 --> 01:08:07,790
a little fire under them to make them want to get to the competitive, but then there's some

795
01:08:07,790 --> 01:08:13,310
parents that were like, oh, she's, she don't want to do it, or maybe if she has one moment

796
01:08:13,310 --> 01:08:19,370
where she's like, oh, are kind of intimidated or, you know, instead of just trying it because we're

797
01:08:19,370 --> 01:08:23,190
all starting at the beginning and that's what I tell the parent, you don't have to know how to

798
01:08:23,190 --> 01:08:28,610
do anything. I will teach you everything you need to know how to do and just come in the door

799
01:08:28,610 --> 01:08:33,990
and just try it and let's just see where it takes us. So the commitment from the parents

800
01:08:33,990 --> 01:08:40,090
and the girls is going to be another issue just knowing if they really want to do it and

801
01:08:40,090 --> 01:08:45,390
commit because even some of the girls at the games 10 minutes in, they're done. They're checking

802
01:08:45,390 --> 01:08:50,210
out on me and I have to come on, you can do it. We're almost there, you know, and come

803
01:08:50,210 --> 01:08:56,010
you know they're already ready to go crying tears rolling they've taken the pictures

804
01:08:56,010 --> 01:09:02,990
they've smiled that everybody out there and just have to have a true

805
01:09:02,990 --> 01:09:05,610
cheer parent meeting expectations for the

806
01:09:08,330 --> 01:09:09,770
year competitive 10

807
01:09:13,100 --> 01:09:13,940
or 15 girls

808
01:09:13,940 --> 01:09:19,880
they're like oh I didn't realize it was that they've got it amongst ourselves

809
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:25,820
we've had like a chance okay we did have a meeting so you can I we had a meeting

810
01:09:25,820 --> 01:09:27,500
And I broke down everything.

811
01:09:28,340 --> 01:09:29,680
Because a lot of people were like,

812
01:09:29,860 --> 01:09:31,040
oh, I don't want them to go to Orlando.

813
01:09:31,100 --> 01:09:33,380
I'm like, we're not going to Orlando.

814
01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:33,840
Right.

815
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:37,560
And I broke it down and I said exactly what this calls,

816
01:09:37,920 --> 01:09:40,620
I dropped the calls, you know, we were at a thousand.

817
01:09:40,860 --> 01:09:41,440
I dropped it.

818
01:09:41,440 --> 01:09:44,360
I even dropped it to 650 at one point.

819
01:09:44,620 --> 01:09:47,800
You know, I'm not making anything really off of it.

820
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:49,740
I'm just doing it to give back.

821
01:09:49,860 --> 01:09:51,300
And I think that if the parents,

822
01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:55,540
I know they want me and I give them a lot of me,

823
01:09:55,540 --> 01:09:58,180
you know, but they also have to know, like, even at pride,

824
01:09:58,480 --> 01:10:01,140
I might not be the coach in front of your kid every time.

825
01:10:01,420 --> 01:10:03,140
There's a community of less at pride,

826
01:10:03,220 --> 01:10:06,580
and we all like step in and do our part.

827
01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:11,860
So if they know that I'll probably be over this and do this part

828
01:10:11,860 --> 01:10:14,460
and then there will be somebody else that will come in

829
01:10:14,460 --> 01:10:18,220
and they will do this part and be comfortable enough to know

830
01:10:18,220 --> 01:10:20,360
that what we have we're gonna make it work

831
01:10:20,360 --> 01:10:22,400
and we're gonna, but our best foot forward.

832
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:28,500
But is that the level here, because I know the coaches at Pride, they're all phenomenal.

833
01:10:29,220 --> 01:10:33,300
They said the ones that you have that helped you hear, are they of that level?

834
01:10:33,340 --> 01:10:40,600
Now there was one, she was at the level, as far as her doing what she was supposed to do when I was on maternity leave,

835
01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:47,560
no, she wasn't at that level, because she has coach beside me at Pride, and I gave her

836
01:10:47,560 --> 01:10:52,200
of a high school team because I, you know, I get a lot of kids and teams that come to me,

837
01:10:52,340 --> 01:10:58,580
but I can't take all of them. So I gave her that team on her own. And for some reason or another,

838
01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:06,380
I don't know where she decided to like go left, you know, but I brought her in because I have had her

839
01:11:06,380 --> 01:11:12,600
before where she's worked side by me at Pride. She's been one of my cheerkids nationalists.

840
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:13,060
No,

841
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:20,240
yes, so like Carmen and stuff, she was great and

842
01:11:22,220 --> 01:11:23,400
Exactly so

843
01:11:24,220 --> 01:11:30,660
But that's one part about Trinity is the good coach. She just did not show up when I need her to show up

844
01:11:30,660 --> 01:11:31,900
You know

845
01:11:31,900 --> 01:11:33,340
Like Carmen Gordon

846
01:11:33,980 --> 01:11:39,540
Carmen Gordon's been helping and she's been great. Probably man. She's she's cheering myself for this year

847
01:11:39,540 --> 01:11:48,940
So I want to go back to the center of what we've been doing, right, with all the different

848
01:11:48,940 --> 01:11:54,860
sports, which is trying to make a determination about what we as a Parks and Rec board

849
01:11:54,860 --> 01:11:58,400
are trying to accomplish and what we're trying to build up.

850
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:00,340
And in many

851
01:12:02,490 --> 01:12:08,190
of our other sports, we've continued to say, and what I'm still hearing is there's

852
01:12:08,190 --> 01:12:15,850
lot of competitive options in Memphis, right? There are a lot of options. We made the

853
01:12:15,850 --> 01:12:20,590
determination and I'll just go back to baseball because I got a baseball game to get to,

854
01:12:21,750 --> 01:12:23,450
you know, every night.

855
01:12:25,570 --> 01:12:30,770
You made the decision as a city that offering competitive baseball

856
01:12:30,770 --> 01:12:36,330
was not the direction that we were trying to go because there were better options available to the

857
01:12:36,330 --> 01:12:40,690
kids in a lot more options with competitive baseball.

858
01:12:43,690 --> 01:12:49,370
We not trying to accomplish the same thing when it comes to cheer, like offer what it is.

859
01:12:49,690 --> 01:12:54,050
And clearly there is a tremendous desire for the wrecked cheer.

860
01:12:55,690 --> 01:13:01,070
Why are we trying to focus on competitive cheer when there are other options?

861
01:13:04,260 --> 01:13:09,300
We've got a relative competitive soccer for the same reason, now if people want competitive

862
01:13:09,300 --> 01:13:13,380
soccer. It's through other programs. We don't have it at a baseball. That's a travel

863
01:13:13,380 --> 01:13:15,020
baseball as for.

864
01:13:17,060 --> 01:13:19,480
I'm just trying to make sure that we're not missing something.

865
01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:25,780
God. Okay. Well, I'm new. It's my third meeting. So that's how. So that's what this is.

866
01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:31,480
So we're just recreational sports in competitive needs to go somewhere else.

867
01:13:31,480 --> 01:13:37,340
That's what we were tasked by your brother to determine. That's what Josh asks us to do.

868
01:13:37,340 --> 01:13:47,320
What is that figure out as the Parks and Rec board like what is it and that's the conclusion that we've been coming to is how do we make sure that there's an incredibly robust

869
01:13:47,320 --> 01:13:55,320
Rec program so that people have then been adequately prepared that when they do find what it is that they want whether you're in

870
01:13:55,320 --> 01:14:02,960
First grade like Campbell or whether it's when you're in fourth grade that you say you know what I do love that I want to go the competitive route.

871
01:14:02,960 --> 01:14:06,640
I'm no longer like I want us to have incredible

872
01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:09,460
theater programs for the middle school in high school.

873
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:12,440
That is critical for our overall success of the city.

874
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:21,450
I'm just 15 to zero is just a big difference.

875
01:14:21,690 --> 01:14:24,110
And I'm wondering if we're trying to solve a problem that

876
01:14:24,110 --> 01:14:26,590
doesn't need to be solved by parks and rent.

877
01:14:27,030 --> 01:14:29,310
Well, I was just going to say, I got my child picked up.

878
01:14:29,690 --> 01:14:30,330
I'm good now.

879
01:14:31,530 --> 01:14:36,330
But what I was going to say is I don't think it hurts to try, definitely that's not

880
01:14:36,330 --> 01:14:37,010
hurt to try.

881
01:14:37,130 --> 01:14:42,810
It doesn't cost anything to try to do this for incorrect, but it doesn't cost a social

882
01:14:42,810 --> 01:14:50,190
media posting, but I just was going to make a point which is to Jessica's point is me and

883
01:14:50,190 --> 01:14:55,530
Rachel, I would say, were the two most active moms and were both for two different

884
01:14:55,530 --> 01:14:59,970
opposite reasons not interested in doing the competitive part.

885
01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:13,980
Me, because my children do lots of other activities, and I would do it at the time if it was shorter, which Candace has said, you can't really do that, and then Rachel wants something more, more than this is giving.

886
01:15:14,580 --> 01:15:24,600
So we're, me and Rachel are different ends of the spectrum, but we come to the middle saying, we, my, Earl's love wreck, and they love Candace, and we're always continued as long as we can.

887
01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:34,680
So, but I don't think it's a negative to try to get it each year, and if we can and Canvas is willing to coach it, I don't think it's a negative.

888
01:15:35,380 --> 01:15:36,900
So, I don't have Rachel, it's not a single matter.

889
01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:53,280
So, the one thing that I was going to say is the main reason why I feel like it is great to keep that as an opportunity, even if she said if it works, it does, if it does not work, then that's fine.

890
01:15:53,280 --> 01:16:00,220
But the main goal is to get them ready for middle school, it's a feeder program and that's you know back in the day

891
01:16:00,220 --> 01:16:03,140
Why she said SOS and all these other wreck programs?

892
01:16:03,820 --> 01:16:09,360
It was just different back then, you know everybody wanted to compete now and days a lot of the kids

893
01:16:09,840 --> 01:16:14,380
At each don't want to compete sometimes only because they want to do other sports

894
01:16:14,380 --> 01:16:20,480
But once you commit to competitive cheer like that's pretty much it you know you are you know

895
01:16:20,480 --> 01:16:25,220
But there's not too many other things you can really do because it's very time-consuming.

896
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:31,480
But I feel like if we do push for the competitive right-chair, that helps us get them

897
01:16:31,480 --> 01:16:36,820
prepared for middle school competitive and then for the high school, you know, that's my

898
01:16:36,820 --> 01:16:45,140
main goal is to help get them just a pretty much acquainted with everything and trying to learn

899
01:16:45,140 --> 01:16:52,040
how to transition to that next position when they do go to middle school or high school just

900
01:16:52,040 --> 01:16:56,380
like the middle school is going to be a feeder for high school. The wreck program is supposed

901
01:16:56,380 --> 01:17:02,340
to be a feeder for middle school and that's just the goal that I feel would be great, you know,

902
01:17:02,460 --> 01:17:07,680
if it could happen. And please, no, I'm not picking on cheer just because I only have boys and

903
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:12,100
I know nothing about cheerleading. Please, please, please know that. I don't know. I mean,

904
01:17:12,100 --> 01:17:17,520
I heard baseball person and mom and it was still probably one of my first recommendations

905
01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:24,040
was stop trying to provide a baseball program at a certain point where after a certain age,

906
01:17:24,180 --> 01:17:29,700
once you get over eight years old, if you're not playing travel ball, you're probably not

907
01:17:29,700 --> 01:17:34,280
going to make the middle school team or if you do, you are probably not playing on the middle

908
01:17:34,280 --> 01:17:39,140
school team until you go get more experience and I'm watching that firsthand while my husband

909
01:17:39,140 --> 01:17:46,240
coaches than middle school team. So like, please know, like, we want Lakeland Parks and

910
01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:54,980
Rec to be the best Rec programs available. We've also got to say we have to be able to focus

911
01:17:54,980 --> 01:18:01,100
energy and resources where it's going to do the most good. And yeah, maybe it, okay, maybe

912
01:18:01,100 --> 01:18:04,720
there's no harm in keeping it open one more year and see if there's people that say, hey,

913
01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:12,380
let's give this a try if the numbers aren't there and maybe it's just to I just don't want

914
01:18:12,380 --> 01:18:20,320
us to lose sight of what we are trying to accomplish as a board which is have to make focus.

915
01:18:20,500 --> 01:18:25,580
Now I think one of the big differences is probably we're not with cheer we don't we don't have

916
01:18:25,580 --> 01:18:31,240
the facilities problem which I think exists with every other sport that we have right like is that

917
01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:34,500
difference back, like, cheer, we don't want to get rid of it.

918
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:36,240
That's probably the one big difference.

919
01:18:36,540 --> 01:18:40,640
The facilities aren't there, and the vendor for it isn't pushing.

920
01:18:41,540 --> 01:18:46,020
You know, if Canvas is happy doing this and, like, it doesn't matter to her,

921
01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:47,700
you know, I have to have a competitive team.

922
01:18:48,060 --> 01:18:51,200
Every year, there's doesn't care.

923
01:18:51,720 --> 01:18:57,340
And the facility needs exist, or to offer it.

924
01:18:57,940 --> 01:19:00,060
That's what I'm, you know, I don't know that it does.

925
01:19:00,060 --> 01:19:02,640
That's what I'm saying, like, that's probably the,

926
01:19:03,260 --> 01:19:12,360
it's with cheer, compared to everything else, is we're not fighting for facilities or need non-existent facilities.

927
01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:15,220
And that may only last so long.

928
01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:16,780
I don't know how long that'll go.

929
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:23,900
But right now, so we spent most of the football season in the mat room,

930
01:19:24,080 --> 01:19:26,060
which is where the wrestling program will be.

931
01:19:26,060 --> 01:19:29,940
And then we spent the basketball season in the high school cafeteria.

932
01:19:31,040 --> 01:19:35,340
The fact that we are able to move the mats where we need to,

933
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:39,260
allows us a little bit more flexibility in where and when we can practice.

934
01:19:39,500 --> 01:19:42,100
Sure, we're going to still have access to the mat room.

935
01:19:43,420 --> 01:19:45,720
All the other issues were, I mean, if does that change?

936
01:19:46,020 --> 01:19:47,720
Well, we won't be in the mat room.

937
01:19:47,860 --> 01:19:54,800
You know, we don't know because as the wrestling programs are growing and all that kind of stuff,

938
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:58,960
The good thing is that we have the mats that we can then move.

939
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:06,560
Now, the school will have error program where it is and then generally we just kind of

940
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:11,480
come and deer the space afterwards. We sometimes will break it down and have

941
01:20:11,480 --> 01:20:20,480
or mats because of the size difference in the two squads but we're generally able to just kind of

942
01:20:20,480 --> 01:20:22,620
occupied the same space that the school

943
01:20:22,620 --> 01:20:31,600
formation of that that we're going to have access because given the issue that we talked about last month with basketball no longer having access to the school facilities the way that

944
01:20:32,340 --> 01:20:44,840
They were supposed to be like I hate see all of that time energy and work and all of a sudden then we're back here year from now saying so we don't have school facilities that were promised to us and what's going on

945
01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:48,620
And now we have all these girls that can't access, they can't practice.

946
01:20:49,760 --> 01:21:00,920
That's one of the goals for the remainder of the school year and through the summer as we start working on next year.

947
01:21:02,040 --> 01:21:12,340
The difference is that we have the MOU on the school flatfields, where it's spelled out for the next number of years.

948
01:21:12,340 --> 01:21:18,780
we have this much space and so on, we don't have that for either of the indoor facilities

949
01:21:19,540 --> 01:21:24,720
and so every summer I get together with the school administration when we write it

950
01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:25,840
out now.

951
01:21:26,360 --> 01:21:31,660
I'm going to be trying to approach that a little bit differently this year, trying to lock

952
01:21:31,660 --> 01:21:39,640
us in to some public tough for them because they're growing, the parks is trying to grow.

953
01:21:42,360 --> 01:22:05,680
What I was going to say was like I I've also employed at Lakeland too, so I spoke with Miss Martin, you know, and she has allowed me to be able to bring the chair team in as long as it's not conflicting with middle school chair, but being that I'm the coach about I do it right after so there is no conflict and we already know the space is already open.

954
01:22:05,680 --> 01:22:09,140
because we pretty much put in the middle school,

955
01:22:09,580 --> 01:22:11,660
we put in for the space for that day.

956
01:22:12,500 --> 01:22:16,100
And what I usually do is I have them middle school practices

957
01:22:16,100 --> 01:22:19,620
and then right after the ret comes in,

958
01:22:19,640 --> 01:22:21,080
they leave out one or two mats,

959
01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:24,220
they put the rest of them up and when we're done,

960
01:22:24,640 --> 01:22:28,720
and I have the ret girls put up those two mats that they use.

961
01:22:29,260 --> 01:22:31,780
So luckily I have got that into play

962
01:22:31,780 --> 01:22:34,780
where she's allowed us to do that.

963
01:22:36,220 --> 01:22:41,440
And I'll just say, you know, make sure that I'm still corresponding with her to make sure that's okay.

964
01:22:41,860 --> 01:22:49,600
It hasn't been a problem, you know, and she just says as long as it's not conflicting with our cheer team, then it wasn't a problem.

965
01:22:51,910 --> 01:22:52,710
I have a quick question.

966
01:22:53,410 --> 01:22:55,530
I'm going to resource standpoint for you.

967
01:22:55,610 --> 01:22:57,290
You already have the wreck team.

968
01:22:57,590 --> 01:23:01,030
Is a competitive team an additional drain on your resources?

969
01:23:01,790 --> 01:23:02,770
No, not really.

970
01:23:02,770 --> 01:23:13,750
I mean, we pay for the additional space within the school, but that's something that we are already budgeting for.

971
01:23:14,130 --> 01:23:22,570
At the parents that do it, and they pay the 750, the things that they need over the uniforms that covers them.

972
01:23:22,710 --> 01:23:24,650
There's no additional funds we're kicking in on that.

973
01:23:24,650 --> 01:23:43,870
Uniforms are a separate expense, but the way that the cost share works is that she gets a certain percentage of everything we bring in and we get the remainder that remainder covers additional bows and socks and things that the girls might.

974
01:23:43,870 --> 01:23:51,030
Because they've lost it, things like that, you know, the spirit shirts which we provide and

975
01:23:51,030 --> 01:23:56,010
it's included in the registration and then the use of the facility.

976
01:23:57,350 --> 01:24:03,070
It sounds like that this may be the one thing that there's no risk to us to have a competitive team.

977
01:24:03,590 --> 01:24:09,990
Long as we can confirm that your ability to continue using the facilities has not changed because there's been a lot

978
01:24:09,990 --> 01:24:11,030
change in access

979
01:24:16,050 --> 01:24:25,350
minimum of how much I'm going to grow I said the minimum would be ten to twelve to

980
01:24:25,350 --> 01:24:33,010
to really be successful and compete and have enough girls to make a routine would be ten to twelve girls

981
01:24:35,490 --> 01:24:41,370
I mean and I do kind of agree with what you said like maybe give it a shot you know this year

982
01:24:41,370 --> 01:24:46,250
you know there's no need to keep pushing pushing pushing if we're not getting the numbers

983
01:24:46,250 --> 01:24:53,090
and just put the focus on wreck you know I would like to give it another shot you know and just see

984
01:24:53,090 --> 01:24:59,510
if we're able to get the numbers this year and where we can possibly go and then after that you

985
01:24:59,510 --> 01:25:06,870
know maybe rethink it again for next season and if it's just not there you know we can put all our

986
01:25:06,870 --> 01:25:08,350
focus on the red program.

987
01:25:08,930 --> 01:25:10,670
Maybe I'm just coming from a different aspect.

988
01:25:11,050 --> 01:25:12,610
I'm just tired of watching Lake Lincoln.

989
01:25:12,830 --> 01:25:14,150
Kids go somewhere else.

990
01:25:14,270 --> 01:25:14,410
Yeah.

991
01:25:14,830 --> 01:25:16,910
I don't like that either way.

992
01:25:17,410 --> 01:25:19,970
I'm tired of watching Lake Lincoln kids go to, you know,

993
01:25:20,090 --> 01:25:20,730
M-U-S.

994
01:25:21,270 --> 01:25:24,370
Seriously, George is a prior-Christ or Arlington or wherever.

995
01:25:25,130 --> 01:25:26,870
At this pride, you know, whatever.

996
01:25:27,750 --> 01:25:27,810
Yeah.

997
01:25:27,810 --> 01:25:28,990
You know what?

998
01:25:29,270 --> 01:25:32,210
They offered me a competitive thing when I was in fourth grade.

999
01:25:32,430 --> 01:25:34,010
And I know these people now.

1000
01:25:34,050 --> 01:25:34,650
I love them.

1001
01:25:34,810 --> 01:25:35,590
They're part of fam.

1002
01:25:35,590 --> 01:25:44,650
So I'm sticking here and well, maybe my senior year of high school, I'll go and join the school to local school team, if I feel like it.

1003
01:25:47,540 --> 01:25:59,980
So for us to continually give up, it sounds to me anyway, is we're continually giving away, giving away to where, just to roads, the product is a whole.

1004
01:25:59,980 --> 01:26:07,100
I'm sure that I think what we've been focused on from all the meetings that I've been in for the

1005
01:26:07,980 --> 01:26:12,540
You're now I think it's really been to help combat exactly what you're talking about

1006
01:26:12,540 --> 01:26:22,220
It's to make sure that the programs are foundationally sound at the rec level to ensure that we do have feeder programs that go into the schools

1007
01:26:22,220 --> 01:26:25,940
I get that but that's what I'm saying is that because I know for a fact last year

1008
01:26:28,340 --> 01:26:35,060
their best football players that came through Lakeland Rack, our best basketball players that

1009
01:26:35,060 --> 01:26:40,880
can't do Lakeland Rack all over their playing ball now, I'm Lakeland.

1010
01:26:41,540 --> 01:26:47,040
Welcome to Brian Crest, one's the same George, and one is at Laos Annabelle here,

1011
01:26:51,440 --> 01:26:51,700
that's

1012
01:26:51,700 --> 01:26:59,960
why I'm saying if we fight harder, we might fail, I don't know, but it's just

1013
01:26:59,960 --> 01:27:07,040
frustrated. And I would much rather try and fail than just give it away to somebody and it

1014
01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:10,120
gives them another easy out.

1015
01:27:12,340 --> 01:27:20,340
I agree that, you know, this or in particular I don't see that there's a risk to try. So

1016
01:27:20,340 --> 01:27:27,760
different scenarios, there's a risk, in terms of what we try them.

1017
01:27:28,140 --> 01:27:28,960
Fields, equipment,

1018
01:27:31,700 --> 01:27:34,960
the others, there's a problem, and I think the whole

1019
01:27:34,960 --> 01:27:41,480
competitive recreation thing is, everything is, I'm

1020
01:27:41,480 --> 01:27:44,880
didn't wait, in five years, you know, our whole view on

1021
01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:49,860
competitive baseball and football could be different, because as we developed

1022
01:27:49,860 --> 01:27:57,860
these rent programs, feed into both the school programs, also perhaps create more competitiveness

1023
01:27:57,860 --> 01:28:02,860
within the kids that are here as we grow and they go to school together. And then they want

1024
01:28:02,860 --> 01:28:07,900
more competitive programs closer to home with the people that they grew up with and play

1025
01:28:07,900 --> 01:28:13,280
recklessly. So I think just because we're not considering it now or making decision to go a

1026
01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:17,680
for a way, doesn't mean that in five years or 10 years or so.

1027
01:28:18,360 --> 01:28:23,440
We might not see the necessity to change it.

1028
01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:27,340
Our opportunities there, and we have the community,

1029
01:28:27,880 --> 01:28:30,980
it's a lot of the community wants to really basically go over it.

1030
01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:38,140
If the community decides, you know, they want to support that a baseball, right, all teams?

1031
01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:39,360
That's why we go.

1032
01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:48,020
I agree, you know, that if we can keep pushing and drawing, you know, I'm a fighter.

1033
01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:54,300
I'm going to recruit and keep working, you know, and I know another problem is that, you

1034
01:28:54,300 --> 01:29:00,100
know, when I didn't have the program, a lot of those kids went to all-star at a young age,

1035
01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:04,560
because, you know, we can start at 3 and 4, and that's why I'm trying to pull a lot of those

1036
01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:10,940
kids that I know are at Lakeland now to try to come back and do the right program, and I feel

1037
01:29:10,940 --> 01:29:16,820
being that we did have 50 kids this year for the wreck. They just needed to kind of see what this was

1038
01:29:16,820 --> 01:29:21,600
about, because we got a lot of new kids. So they needed to kind of get their foot in the door,

1039
01:29:21,660 --> 01:29:27,620
see what it's about. I feel like now we could get some of them to convert and do both next year.

1040
01:29:35,640 --> 01:29:39,000
That's all I have. No, thank you very much. Thank you. Thank y'all.

1041
01:29:42,730 --> 01:29:49,810
I will say we've been hosting registration for out two weeks, maybe three.

1042
01:29:49,810 --> 01:29:53,050
We already have 17 girls in the rec program.

1043
01:29:54,250 --> 01:29:57,330
Girls in the competitive program so far.

1044
01:29:58,430 --> 01:29:59,870
We're doing well on.

1045
01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:02,280
On that for now.

1046
01:30:08,040 --> 01:30:33,720
Right. So, I'd like to move on. Right. Got them confirmed for, or this week, the main topic of our conversation is the senior center. We, of course, have our own facility, which is nice. We get to, you're outwards in there. Our programs are generally,

1047
01:30:34,940 --> 01:30:40,800
But split down with educational programs, social programs, and health and fitness programs.

1048
01:30:41,160 --> 01:30:56,440
Now, you can make the case that one could fit multiple categories, but we kind of set that as the criteria for what our programs are.

1049
01:30:56,840 --> 01:31:04,260
Under educational programs, we do have arts and crafts because there is an element of education on

1050
01:31:04,260 --> 01:31:07,260
the technique that's involved and things like that.

1051
01:31:07,940 --> 01:31:14,520
So when they're doing watercolor when they're doing, you know, multimedia art, you know,

1052
01:31:14,600 --> 01:31:19,060
we're talking to them about the techniques that are involved.

1053
01:31:20,360 --> 01:31:25,200
And our person, they don't know what those techniques are, but we are talking about them.

1054
01:31:25,480 --> 01:31:33,420
Many of those programs are covered by the grant that we use through creative aging because

1055
01:31:33,420 --> 01:31:35,640
they have the programs set up.

1056
01:31:35,820 --> 01:31:38,300
They create the curriculum, and then they're coming in in that.

1057
01:31:38,800 --> 01:31:49,240
Once a month, we also do an luncheon learn, so sometimes a local professional would be coming

1058
01:31:49,240 --> 01:31:53,040
in, talking about scams that are generally targeting seniors.

1059
01:31:54,020 --> 01:32:01,040
Personal health presentations, things about fall awareness and things of that nature, and

1060
01:32:01,040 --> 01:32:05,580
And we have the safe driver curriculum through the AARP

1061
01:32:05,580 --> 01:32:07,220
come in at least once a year.

1062
01:32:07,880 --> 01:32:10,760
So we do try and bring in different groups.

1063
01:32:10,980 --> 01:32:14,800
Sometimes it will be a dentist or sometimes it

1064
01:32:14,800 --> 01:32:18,820
will be an insurance agent that are coming in to really try

1065
01:32:21,040 --> 01:32:26,340
and your citizens aware of programs that are out there

1066
01:32:26,340 --> 01:32:29,460
that they can take advantage of or, you know,

1067
01:32:29,520 --> 01:32:32,640
how to protect themselves in those situations.

1068
01:32:33,560 --> 01:32:35,280
And then, of course, we have the social programs.

1069
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:39,200
Bingo is always our huge draw.

1070
01:32:39,380 --> 01:32:41,120
We do that at least twice a month.

1071
01:32:41,920 --> 01:32:49,340
Generally, Bingo will be tied to our monthly, you know,

1072
01:32:49,740 --> 01:32:51,000
celebration when there is one.

1073
01:32:51,280 --> 01:32:54,760
So when Christmas comes around, we'll do a Christmas

1074
01:32:54,760 --> 01:32:59,750
themed party and then we'll pull out the bingo cards and play bingo and amongst that.

1075
01:33:01,100 --> 01:33:08,700
We'll do, we did bingo on Valentine's Day, we do it for St. Patty's Day and things of that nature.

1076
01:33:10,040 --> 01:33:16,270
They're really good about texting me while I'm out of town saying that they miss me, all that kind of stuff.

1077
01:33:17,640 --> 01:33:22,580
They'll get dressed up in the colors for the celebration and they'll come in and have a great time.

1078
01:33:22,580 --> 01:33:28,880
There are people who only come for bingo, and there are people who are there for almost every one of these.

1079
01:33:29,380 --> 01:33:32,420
And so we're really happy to have many of them.

1080
01:33:32,720 --> 01:33:36,440
We have multiple different types of card games and domino games.

1081
01:33:36,980 --> 01:33:41,160
We have a jamming group that comes out and plays and people can just come and listen and then they just pick away.

1082
01:33:41,920 --> 01:33:46,240
Generally bluegrass but, you know, lots of different things.

1083
01:33:46,240 --> 01:34:00,480
And they'll come and play, and they have a great time, and usually when Kim's off, I'll go and actually just sit there and listen, kind of man the fort, if you will, just to just to go and sit in on the day.

1084
01:34:01,220 --> 01:34:05,340
So, those are our social programs and then health and fitness.

1085
01:34:05,880 --> 01:34:09,880
We've added this last year and a half or so.

1086
01:34:10,340 --> 01:34:15,040
Cherry yoga, we tried mat yoga, didn't quite get the same reception,

1087
01:34:15,820 --> 01:34:19,540
but that would be a program that actually is not limited to just seniors.

1088
01:34:21,500 --> 01:34:26,600
So we have cherry yoga and we've just recently started a program for line dancing instruction.

1089
01:34:28,180 --> 01:34:34,260
We're obviously looking or any other health and fitness, you know,

1090
01:34:34,320 --> 01:34:39,240
silvers sneakers, sitting get fit, any of those types of programs that we can get the education

1091
01:34:39,240 --> 01:34:44,400
for to run ourselves or any of that kind of stuff.

1092
01:34:44,640 --> 01:34:50,760
Our yoga instructor is a contract and she's willing to do more, we just don't yet have

1093
01:34:50,760 --> 01:34:52,100
the demand for more.

1094
01:34:53,350 --> 01:35:00,510
ZoomBegold is one that we've been investigating that is a senior focused ZoomBegrogram and we would

1095
01:35:00,510 --> 01:35:05,390
utilize the clubhouse like we do with our other health and fitness programs.

1096
01:35:06,650 --> 01:35:12,510
We've also been exploring the opportunity for day trips and so in this new fiscal year

1097
01:35:12,510 --> 01:35:21,850
we're trying to put together a couple throughout the next fiscal year where the seniors may come together

1098
01:35:21,850 --> 01:35:31,190
at 9 o'clock in the morning, we'd have a shuttle bus rented for the day and then it would take

1099
01:35:31,190 --> 01:35:37,430
them to the activity for the day. Now we could do botanical gardens, we could go in and you

1100
01:35:37,430 --> 01:35:44,010
know, do a nature scape kind of painting day, we could do just even a field trip out to

1101
01:35:45,290 --> 01:35:50,270
Markman's out Oakland, out 64, to go to their shop.

1102
01:35:50,650 --> 01:35:51,530
That's always fun.

1103
01:35:51,670 --> 01:35:54,010
I take my girls over there every once in a while.

1104
01:35:54,330 --> 01:35:57,770
Go down to the Peabody for lunch and watch the ducks, those kinds of things.

1105
01:35:58,690 --> 01:36:03,310
We haven't identified anything as we are definitely doing this as our first one,

1106
01:36:03,430 --> 01:36:05,510
but that is something that we have been investigating.

1107
01:36:07,730 --> 01:36:18,650
Our relationship with Durham as we started about this time last year due to the concerts and the movies being relocated to the athletic complex.

1108
01:36:19,730 --> 01:36:21,730
We're going to try and utilize that system.

1109
01:36:23,130 --> 01:36:29,830
If we're looking at future needs or future really wants at this point for the center,

1110
01:36:29,830 --> 01:36:36,490
trying to get a shuttle bus for ourselves so that we could do these on a more regular basis

1111
01:36:36,490 --> 01:36:42,610
would be fantastic. That could be something that we would be able to utilize as we were

1112
01:36:42,610 --> 01:36:49,810
moving forward with other programs. We could have it where the athletic complex is supplemental

1113
01:36:49,810 --> 01:36:55,840
parking for concerts if we ever got so large that we needed another spot. And then we could

1114
01:36:55,840 --> 01:36:58,300
staff basically run a shuttle back and forth.

1115
01:36:59,020 --> 01:37:03,920
We have used the school properties for that this last year.

1116
01:37:04,540 --> 01:37:09,540
We were running concerts and everything over at the athletic complex, so we could do that.

1117
01:37:09,640 --> 01:37:11,580
We could again contract with Durham.

1118
01:37:12,360 --> 01:37:15,020
We now know how the process works.

1119
01:37:16,020 --> 01:37:23,020
Relatively inexpensive when you look at the overall cost of, like a charter or any of the other

1120
01:37:23,020 --> 01:37:25,840
options that would come into play.

1121
01:37:26,500 --> 01:37:32,900
Of course, we will continue the creative aging grant application as long as we possibly can,

1122
01:37:33,600 --> 01:37:39,280
but there are opportunities for us to actually purchase additional membership with them.

1123
01:37:39,500 --> 01:37:42,200
We are looking at expanding those programs.

1124
01:37:42,940 --> 01:37:51,340
We get a baseline every year because of the grant that we have and if we chose to do so,

1125
01:37:51,340 --> 01:37:57,560
we'd be able to increase the number of credits, essentially we got through the grant every year

1126
01:37:58,180 --> 01:38:05,100
and then we'd be able to offer additional programming and nature. So we're exploring that opportunity now.

1127
01:38:06,260 --> 01:38:12,320
And then we've talked about, you know, that the senior center does not charge

1128
01:38:13,300 --> 01:38:20,140
or before I got here had not charged for anything. And since since we started up some of these programs

1129
01:38:20,140 --> 01:38:28,280
we are doing some feed programs and the programs that we're charging for now are like the

1130
01:38:28,280 --> 01:38:29,660
health and fitness classes.

1131
01:38:30,680 --> 01:38:33,200
That's three dollars to come in for the hour of yoga.

1132
01:38:33,900 --> 01:38:36,180
That is not nothing.

1133
01:38:37,060 --> 01:38:41,500
It is relatively inexpensive one hour fitness program.

1134
01:38:42,820 --> 01:38:50,120
And so we do charge as nominal a fee as we possibly can for the programs that we

1135
01:38:50,120 --> 01:38:56,160
that we are involved in. Anything creative aging, there is no fee for at all. That's part of the

1136
01:38:56,160 --> 01:39:06,520
grant process. We can't charge for it. And so we're looking at ways to make sure that we're

1137
01:39:06,520 --> 01:39:12,040
able to cover as much as we can. We've been exploring the idea of memberships.

1138
01:39:13,760 --> 01:39:21,860
Memberships are part of the deal when you go to other senior centers.

1139
01:39:22,620 --> 01:39:25,520
It's an early and annual membership.

1140
01:39:26,120 --> 01:39:28,080
It's not an expensive thing.

1141
01:39:28,460 --> 01:39:31,120
We're not looking at like $100 certainly.

1142
01:39:32,340 --> 01:39:35,280
You know, we would be looking at something much less than that.

1143
01:39:35,280 --> 01:39:42,960
But basically, it would give you the opportunity for a reduced E when we did charge for things.

1144
01:39:44,800 --> 01:39:48,580
It must speak just a moment ago. We do charge for our dinners.

1145
01:39:49,760 --> 01:39:57,380
And it had been $10, and then when we re-instituted them after COVID with all the costs going up,

1146
01:39:57,500 --> 01:39:58,860
we did have to raise it to $12.

1147
01:39:58,860 --> 01:40:11,760
So in that $12, that $12 does cover the entire evening and sometimes we actually come out a little ahead, not much, but a little.

1148
01:40:12,840 --> 01:40:17,740
So it's $12 is a good, good right, and nobody complains.

1149
01:40:18,500 --> 01:40:24,640
And, you know, mostly covers the food and drink for the evening.

1150
01:40:25,440 --> 01:40:31,940
We try and utilize the grant for the actual entertainment portion of the evening.

1151
01:40:33,120 --> 01:40:34,960
And then again, we're...

1152
01:40:36,060 --> 01:40:42,940
It's not really designed to be a money maker, but certainly once we certainly wanted to cover its own costs.

1153
01:40:43,520 --> 01:40:45,600
And so we try and keep it as nominal as possible.

1154
01:40:47,080 --> 01:40:53,720
We've been exploring the opportunity, what would the benefit be if we decided to go with the membership rate?

1155
01:40:55,300 --> 01:41:03,600
We certainly would not have it be a mandatory fee, but the reason we think it would actually work,

1156
01:41:04,100 --> 01:41:13,560
and people would be interested in it, would be if let's say our membership rate was $24 a year.

1157
01:41:14,320 --> 01:41:21,380
Essentially, you break that down to $2 a month as your membership rate and then if we did

1158
01:41:21,380 --> 01:41:27,640
our, if we did our dinners at the membership rate would be 10 and the non member rate would

1159
01:41:27,640 --> 01:41:29,500
be 12, you get that benefit.

1160
01:41:30,080 --> 01:41:36,880
If we do, as we are increasing our own programs, as you may remember, those of you who have

1161
01:41:36,880 --> 01:41:43,080
been here for a bit, we did add a part-time employee this last fiscal year.

1162
01:41:44,060 --> 01:41:46,940
I'm narrowly to allow us to run our own programs.

1163
01:41:48,440 --> 01:41:54,220
It's a very heavy lift for him to get all of these things scheduled.

1164
01:41:54,800 --> 01:41:58,680
And a lot of it, we had to utilize volunteers and things like that.

1165
01:41:58,700 --> 01:42:00,400
Well, volunteers can get sick.

1166
01:42:00,600 --> 01:42:05,520
And volunteers can decide that it's a lot of effort involved.

1167
01:42:06,120 --> 01:42:08,180
And so sometimes they need to take a step back.

1168
01:42:08,400 --> 01:42:11,500
And so we brought in a part-time person.

1169
01:42:11,500 --> 01:42:18,540
So that we can try and offer our own programs versus trying to rely on our volunteers versus

1170
01:42:18,540 --> 01:42:23,180
trying to rely on our grant opportunities.

1171
01:42:24,000 --> 01:42:26,300
Now, we'll still try and capitalize on those things.

1172
01:42:26,900 --> 01:42:32,700
But where we need to, especially if we get to a situation where, let's say, a craft is going

1173
01:42:32,700 --> 01:42:39,780
to require a specific item, and that's, you know, there's a specific cost to that.

1174
01:42:39,780 --> 01:42:49,660
We may end up charging for a material speed for a long running craft program for a month.

1175
01:42:50,080 --> 01:42:53,200
That material speed may be absorbed if you have a membership.

1176
01:42:53,880 --> 01:42:55,360
So that's where we're kind of looking.

1177
01:42:55,720 --> 01:43:00,180
Obviously we haven't gotten very far and drawn out any of the details on this.

1178
01:43:03,770 --> 01:43:04,470
But, you know,

1179
01:43:06,490 --> 01:43:09,610
Or are you a little bit of an upgraded senior son?

1180
01:43:10,330 --> 01:43:10,850
Both do.

1181
01:43:10,850 --> 01:43:19,290
Thank you. I have memberships. Yes. They do. I think we might be the only senior center that does not have a membership.

1182
01:43:19,950 --> 01:43:26,430
Besides, call your bill. I'm a child. I went two weeks ago. I wanted to pick up some trees.

1183
01:43:27,190 --> 01:43:32,710
And I've been on this board for eight years. That's the first time I've been inside that senior center.

1184
01:43:32,710 --> 01:43:44,390
And I was absolutely blown away by what Kim does with, essentially, nothing, all of your materials and part-time staff and a place was amazing.

1185
01:43:44,710 --> 01:43:51,960
I think I would, all of you, everybody on the board just go by there for 20, 30 minutes and look around it.

1186
01:43:52,550 --> 01:43:57,990
She has worked on the walls and ox and chairs in a minute.

1187
01:43:58,630 --> 01:44:03,610
He's got all kinds of things going on up there, and it's amazing that it does that with

1188
01:44:03,610 --> 01:44:06,230
essentially very little.

1189
01:44:06,250 --> 01:44:10,410
I'm very limited resource, isn't, and I think if the other community's charge, I don't

1190
01:44:10,410 --> 01:44:18,030
have seen a reason why we shouldn't, and I think 25 is, I was thinking 50, and I don't

1191
01:44:18,030 --> 01:44:23,130
know what the other's charge, but I have four dollars a month that I don't think is.

1192
01:44:23,130 --> 01:44:30,030
There's their set-ups function the same way where is it like you get a discounted rate for a dinner or something

1193
01:44:30,030 --> 01:44:34,010
You know, you can't see what you're getting. Yeah, there should be some sort of yeah

1194
01:44:34,010 --> 01:44:40,910
Arlington charges $12 a year and they don't pay for anything else

1195
01:44:42,090 --> 01:44:42,650
but

1196
01:44:45,830 --> 01:44:46,950
Artlet charges

1197
01:44:46,950 --> 01:44:51,630
What did I say 15 a year? 20 and they also

1198
01:44:53,310 --> 01:44:59,970
charge for craft classes, jewelry making classes, you know, some of their, the, the

1199
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:05,900
The classes that are going to cause an expense for materials.

1200
01:45:08,580 --> 01:45:09,940
It does.

1201
01:45:10,900 --> 01:45:14,700
So each center is its own.

1202
01:45:19,200 --> 01:45:27,100
If you, like Pat said earlier this week, when we were discussing it, 25, and you come to the dinners,

1203
01:45:27,360 --> 01:45:31,160
and we give you a $2 discount, you're basically getting that right back.

1204
01:45:36,510 --> 01:45:44,530
It's more to work on as far as washing out those details, of course, but I think charging

1205
01:45:44,530 --> 01:45:53,850
something is in any aspect of life is because you have to make sure that it's free,

1206
01:45:54,510 --> 01:45:56,090
and it's whatever.

1207
01:45:56,910 --> 01:46:04,050
But if you invest something into it, then you take more pride in it, and it's something

1208
01:46:04,050 --> 01:46:06,330
that you want to be more part of,

1209
01:46:06,450 --> 01:46:09,610
because you've actually put in your own money into it.

1210
01:46:09,610 --> 01:46:12,570
Whether it's minimal or a lot, it doesn't matter.

1211
01:46:13,130 --> 01:46:16,070
It's all about, you know, because I know how my grandma is,

1212
01:46:16,690 --> 01:46:20,070
you know, she paid $5 a month, she'd go in.

1213
01:46:21,270 --> 01:46:23,510
Yeah, so it's one of those where I think

1214
01:46:23,510 --> 01:46:26,590
at charging a minimal, it's just,

1215
01:46:26,590 --> 01:46:28,030
I think that's just smart anyway.

1216
01:46:29,820 --> 01:46:32,100
Get a lot of participation from outside of Lakeland

1217
01:46:32,100 --> 01:46:32,660
residents.

1218
01:46:32,880 --> 01:46:33,200
I know.

1219
01:46:33,620 --> 01:46:34,420
We do.

1220
01:46:35,020 --> 01:46:41,840
I'm guessing you've figured that up, Pat, do you remember what it was like 65% like

1221
01:46:41,840 --> 01:46:42,620
in residence?

1222
01:46:43,460 --> 01:46:49,900
We're working on intending our database, so if you're, well, whether you're in a way or not,

1223
01:46:50,060 --> 01:46:53,340
we actually have a program in a space for our registration.

1224
01:46:53,720 --> 01:46:57,200
That's what we're using for all of our athletics, that's what we're using for any time

1225
01:46:57,200 --> 01:47:03,180
we rent out a pavilion or the clubhouse, that allows us to do membership, that allows

1226
01:47:03,180 --> 01:47:09,760
us to do, you know, class registration as well. So we're getting ready to start implementing

1227
01:47:09,760 --> 01:47:16,980
that program over at the at the senior center. And so we're trying to build out our database

1228
01:47:16,980 --> 01:47:27,300
of existing participants now. We have about 350, 360, something like that. Participants

1229
01:47:27,300 --> 01:47:34,980
get right now, our calendars go out by email. So that's, you know, it's 360 people. So if

1230
01:47:34,980 --> 01:47:40,500
see almost all of them at least once a quarter. Now granted, we've seen many of them every day.

1231
01:47:42,100 --> 01:47:48,380
And sometimes for multiple programs within a day. But yeah, I would say we're probably in the

1232
01:47:48,380 --> 01:47:51,740
60, 40, 65, 35 type of split.

1233
01:47:52,000 --> 01:47:53,480
And that's every senior center.

1234
01:47:53,660 --> 01:47:55,880
All senior centers are open to.

1235
01:47:56,160 --> 01:47:57,000
They pick and choose.

1236
01:47:57,480 --> 01:48:00,080
We were talking to one of our regulars this morning,

1237
01:48:00,520 --> 01:48:04,000
and she was saying how she goes over to Arlington for this program,

1238
01:48:04,000 --> 01:48:06,080
and she goes over to Bartlett for this program,

1239
01:48:06,800 --> 01:48:09,700
or on these days she'll go over there and things like that.

1240
01:48:09,960 --> 01:48:14,380
And some of the senior centers are open more than we are.

1241
01:48:14,380 --> 01:48:16,920
We're open only five days a week.

1242
01:48:16,920 --> 01:48:20,000
can get, can get to weekend unless he's doing a concert.

1243
01:48:22,380 --> 01:48:23,600
So, we, we would

1244
01:48:23,600 --> 01:48:24,420
have to stop all,

1245
01:48:26,600 --> 01:48:34,300
or it's in our tree, or a tree hand out, or it, yeah. So, some of them

1246
01:48:34,300 --> 01:48:39,600
are open more frequently than ours are, some of them have different opportunities. There

1247
01:48:39,600 --> 01:48:47,500
are several that have tied together for a grant program that's very educational-y based.

1248
01:48:48,940 --> 01:48:49,660
Agnative.

1249
01:48:50,740 --> 01:48:51,400
And so...

1250
01:48:51,400 --> 01:48:53,180
And my fuck program?

1251
01:48:53,780 --> 01:49:01,340
There's more that we can do that we just haven't had the resources to go out and search for

1252
01:49:01,340 --> 01:49:06,200
some of these dollars and search for some of these programs lately, but it is something

1253
01:49:06,200 --> 01:49:09,380
that's certainly on the list now that we actually have some help over there.

1254
01:49:09,380 --> 01:49:12,000
Right, could you get a partner, right?

1255
01:49:12,960 --> 01:49:13,540
I've read answers.

1256
01:49:13,760 --> 01:49:15,200
So you've got buddy over there, all right?

1257
01:49:15,660 --> 01:49:16,700
He has his hands full.

1258
01:49:18,120 --> 01:49:20,660
He definitely has his hands full, but that's,

1259
01:49:20,660 --> 01:49:23,380
it is certainly something that now that we're,

1260
01:49:24,420 --> 01:49:25,880
that we're on an upward trajectory,

1261
01:49:26,200 --> 01:49:29,380
that's something that we're paying a lot of attention to.

1262
01:49:30,300 --> 01:49:31,260
I think I'll likely.

1263
01:49:44,360 --> 01:49:47,060
Other questions over senior centers stuff?

1264
01:49:47,060 --> 01:49:58,060
I would say maybe we can just bring it up a little bit at next month's meeting because I think there were some folks here that left that probably wanted to speak certainly invite them back.

1265
01:50:02,420 --> 01:50:04,460
Right now, I'd be safe to put it down.

1266
01:50:05,420 --> 01:50:13,460
I will let you know right now the main meeting will have the first draft of the sponsorship.

1267
01:50:14,300 --> 01:50:21,320
see Jersey policy. We actually had a meeting on that earlier today and so I'll be sending

1268
01:50:21,320 --> 01:50:28,340
it through, you know, to get the attorney and the city manager to kind of give their

1269
01:50:29,380 --> 01:50:35,260
on it and my intention is to have that for you guys at the main meeting but right now I don't

1270
01:50:35,260 --> 01:50:40,960
really have a lot of other things on the agenda so we'll certainly be able to pull them forward

1271
01:50:40,960 --> 01:50:44,580
but with so many different, you know, guests,

1272
01:50:47,910 --> 01:50:49,150
we will definitely do that.

1273
01:50:49,570 --> 01:50:53,550
Can that explain one thing why we don't have a membership fee?

1274
01:50:53,850 --> 01:50:59,650
Why we haven't had a membership fee is because we did get that facility on a grant

1275
01:50:59,650 --> 01:51:06,290
and there was some language in there that restricted us from having any type of membership fee

1276
01:51:06,290 --> 01:51:10,910
or fees at all except for the, except for the dinners.

1277
01:51:10,910 --> 01:51:21,090
And so that is why we're one of the main reasons we're looking at doing that now because that has expired.

1278
01:51:21,450 --> 01:51:22,750
Okay, cool.

1279
01:51:24,780 --> 01:51:40,380
I mean, I'm imagining the reason that you were not able to solicit a fee or a membership or whatever is because of the way the land was calmedier to the city,

1280
01:51:40,380 --> 01:51:45,180
whether it was gifted along with money and all that, but if that's run out, then of course it

1281
01:51:45,180 --> 01:51:50,320
makes sense that that's your next step. Yeah, so it has more to do with the way that the funding

1282
01:51:50,320 --> 01:52:00,600
mechanism worked for the Senior Center itself. We do, we do have, even though I don't think that

1283
01:52:00,600 --> 01:52:05,300
they're written down, I haven't seen them written down, we do have agreements with the international

1284
01:52:08,780 --> 01:52:19,220
So, I actually had one of their union reps the other day, they're going to start having their monthly meetings at our clubhouse again.

1285
01:52:20,300 --> 01:52:31,740
Anything I age managers, you know, if we can fit into the schedule, it's not an event, because of the way that we got the overall property.

1286
01:52:31,740 --> 01:52:40,640
But the funding mechanism for the senior center itself was such that, you know, no membership fees keep, keep costs as low as possible.

1287
01:52:41,880 --> 01:52:45,380
Um, really don't, don't try and charge for things.

1288
01:52:46,020 --> 01:52:50,720
And I think that was a 10 year, which was last year.

1289
01:52:50,800 --> 01:52:51,280
Last year.

1290
01:52:51,980 --> 01:52:52,540
So,

1291
01:52:56,160 --> 01:52:56,360
years.

1292
01:52:56,740 --> 01:52:59,500
I mean, they got to figure out if they liked it or not, right?

1293
01:52:59,500 --> 01:53:04,960
And this is something, you know, me and Pat, I've talked about since he got here.

1294
01:53:05,600 --> 01:53:12,520
So we've already started entering the participants that we have, all their information

1295
01:53:14,260 --> 01:53:19,300
for Pat, trained Julie and now Jackie, so we're headed in that direction.

1296
01:53:20,760 --> 01:53:21,020
Oh.

1297
01:53:21,020 --> 01:53:24,180
That's not to be confused with as soon as I got here, I wanted it to charge.

1298
01:53:24,280 --> 01:53:26,400
No, no, no, no.

1299
01:53:26,400 --> 01:53:29,080
Or I want to make sure you have a resource.

1300
01:53:32,880 --> 01:53:37,480
I want to make sure that they have the resources necessary to do what they want.

1301
01:53:38,880 --> 01:53:42,960
But art of that initial conversation was, what can we give them back and return?

1302
01:53:43,040 --> 01:53:43,420
Yes.

1303
01:53:43,420 --> 01:53:48,380
To make sure that they don't feel like, oh, well, now you're just charging me for something I already had.

1304
01:53:49,580 --> 01:53:51,880
And so, you know, easy.

1305
01:53:51,960 --> 01:53:55,440
The easy thing to do is to try and give them a member of rate

1306
01:53:55,440 --> 01:53:57,700
on things that we will charge for.

1307
01:53:57,980 --> 01:53:59,720
And I don't want to charge for everything.

1308
01:54:00,660 --> 01:54:02,480
Certainly things like when you drop in

1309
01:54:02,480 --> 01:54:05,640
and play Domino's and card games and things like that,

1310
01:54:07,060 --> 01:54:09,980
I have no intention of charging for anything like that.

1311
01:54:10,300 --> 01:54:12,580
I do however need to cover some costs.

1312
01:54:13,460 --> 01:54:17,440
And we pay more than we bring in for things like yoga

1313
01:54:18,100 --> 01:54:20,000
and through things like line dancing.

1314
01:54:23,380 --> 01:54:26,840
And a senior center may should operate.

1315
01:54:26,840 --> 01:54:33,060
is making sure that there's a benefit to its people and not necessarily looking at the bottom line.

1316
01:54:34,120 --> 01:54:35,880
We offset it with other things.

1317
01:54:36,580 --> 01:54:41,840
So, you're offering 20 things to do in your charging for 3.

1318
01:54:43,320 --> 01:54:43,580
Sorry,

1319
01:54:50,220 --> 01:54:54,580
but more than giving them value for whatever it is that they do pay.

1320
01:54:55,100 --> 01:54:57,960
Being low will always be free because otherwise it's looked at as gambling.

1321
01:54:58,340 --> 01:54:59,740
So, we're not doing that.

1322
01:55:01,260 --> 01:55:03,280
And they don't even win that, do they?

1323
01:55:03,380 --> 01:55:04,500
Well, they win prizes.

1324
01:55:04,560 --> 01:55:05,380
Okay, cool.

1325
01:55:05,940 --> 01:55:12,860
It's just things that we provide or that they bring in as collective, you know, it's time

1326
01:55:12,860 --> 01:55:18,220
for this whatever that my grandkids gave me off the dollar store shelf or what, you know.

1327
01:55:18,440 --> 01:55:20,840
If they pay you to complain, then the house always wins, right?

1328
01:55:23,120 --> 01:55:25,840
I'm passing it back out.

1329
01:55:25,840 --> 01:55:27,580
And like, like, thank you for your security.

1330
01:55:27,700 --> 01:55:31,200
Actually, we do, we do several different things.

1331
01:55:32,560 --> 01:55:40,080
We'll do things like just general, everyday use, kinds of things from

1332
01:55:40,080 --> 01:55:45,100
Dollar Tree or anything like that because it makes it so that they don't have to go and get

1333
01:55:46,000 --> 01:55:55,700
dishwasher soap or sponges or whatever and so we cover some of those things but then we

1334
01:55:55,700 --> 01:56:05,140
do usually do a Chick-fil-A sandwich or that gift card wise and it's not just yeah they

1335
01:56:05,140 --> 01:56:11,280
enjoy it. I get to go that's my therapy as I get to go over there and decompress them hang

1336
01:56:11,280 --> 01:56:13,440
not with the seniors and just have a really good time.

1337
01:56:14,000 --> 01:56:14,760
So, please come back.

1338
01:56:14,880 --> 01:56:16,780
He's gonna be coming back, so.

1339
01:56:18,600 --> 01:56:22,900
Okay, so let's jump back real quick to old business.

1340
01:56:23,360 --> 01:56:28,560
Just kind of touch on where we are, athletic complex,

1341
01:56:29,120 --> 01:56:29,860
we're moving forward.

1342
01:56:31,420 --> 01:56:33,040
We're continuing our work.

1343
01:56:33,620 --> 01:56:35,860
As you may remember from last month,

1344
01:56:36,660 --> 01:56:40,420
we have been approved for some funds

1345
01:56:40,420 --> 01:56:44,620
to light the two existing fields at the athletic complex.

1346
01:56:44,960 --> 01:56:50,600
So we've pulled that out of the phase two design and engineering

1347
01:56:51,170 --> 01:56:54,120
from standpoint that we'll be doing that earlier.

1348
01:56:55,060 --> 01:56:56,880
It was originally part of that project.

1349
01:56:56,880 --> 01:56:59,780
So we're continuing to work on that.

1350
01:56:59,980 --> 01:57:02,240
It has gone to MLGW.

1351
01:57:02,320 --> 01:57:06,020
They've actually responded to our request, which

1352
01:57:06,020 --> 01:57:09,300
I mean, it happened within the first year.

1353
01:57:09,300 --> 01:57:11,480
So we're taking that as a win.

1354
01:57:11,740 --> 01:57:14,180
Now there's plenty more steps to go through,

1355
01:57:14,940 --> 01:57:17,540
but we are at least that far,

1356
01:57:18,980 --> 01:57:20,340
we've gone through that.

1357
01:57:21,360 --> 01:57:23,840
So where we find ourselves with that process

1358
01:57:23,840 --> 01:57:29,060
is essentially they need to do some initial work

1359
01:57:29,060 --> 01:57:36,540
and identify what the cost will be for us to get power

1360
01:57:36,540 --> 01:57:46,460
to the site, and then they'll assess us the fee once we take care of that, they'll move on to the actual engineering and things of that nature.

1361
01:57:47,000 --> 01:57:53,480
Once we get to that point, we can update the electrical for the lighting system and then go out to bid.

1362
01:57:55,400 --> 01:58:02,440
I don't like a lot, but there's a lot of moving parts there. There's quite a significant amount of time, as I'm sure some of you may understand.

1363
01:58:03,640 --> 01:58:08,140
But we're trying not to allow the foot to come off the gas.

1364
01:58:08,380 --> 01:58:15,620
We're trying to stay on top of them and trying to get, I can keep the project moving.

1365
01:58:16,640 --> 01:58:23,420
A hope is we will have these in sometime or the fall really gets rolling.

1366
01:58:26,920 --> 01:58:28,880
That part out of the record if you want.

1367
01:58:29,740 --> 01:58:34,180
A hope is that we'll get it done sometime this summer before the fall really gets rolling.

1368
01:58:35,960 --> 01:58:46,280
I don't promise, I have no control over some of the aspects of this project, but my

1369
01:58:46,280 --> 01:58:50,380
concerted effort is to continue with that type of the timeline.

1370
01:58:52,420 --> 01:58:57,560
Other than that, we are still working forward with the remainder of phase two.

1371
01:58:57,680 --> 01:59:03,800
We've done some preliminaries with our architectural side on the concessions and bathroom

1372
01:59:03,800 --> 01:59:13,080
building, which I'm still reviewing, and then we'll comment back on on first glance. It

1373
01:59:13,080 --> 01:59:20,420
looks awesome, so I'm really excited where we sit with that. But that project, as you

1374
01:59:20,420 --> 01:59:27,100
know, we'll go into next fiscal year and complete some time between July and June of

1375
01:59:27,100 --> 01:59:28,300
2024.

1376
01:59:29,840 --> 01:59:32,120
Questions over the athletic complex?

1377
01:59:34,200 --> 01:59:38,420
I did provide the brief division updates.

1378
01:59:39,380 --> 01:59:40,880
One thing I did want to make an announcement

1379
01:59:40,880 --> 01:59:46,740
on other than our board meeting being on the ninth of May.

1380
01:59:47,400 --> 01:59:53,460
Next month is that the folks from the YMCA who are here last month

1381
01:59:53,460 --> 01:59:56,340
have actually gone to the Board of Commissioners

1382
01:59:56,340 --> 01:59:59,980
and informed them of their intent too.

1383
02:00:00,900 --> 02:00:29,640
To locate somewhere within Lakeland. There's still several even hundred things on the checklist before we actually get there, but I've had a couple of meetings with them since they were here with us, and we've talked a little bit about the comments that all of you made to them as far as the needs of unity.

1384
02:00:30,780 --> 02:00:40,940
If you can, please go back to last week's Board of Commissioners meeting, very early in the meeting, they give a presentation.

1385
02:00:42,720 --> 02:00:48,380
And so if you actually can pull that up on a larger screen, you'll be able to see this slide deck that they presented.

1386
02:00:48,780 --> 02:00:55,040
Now, they've done some on-site specific renderings of this is kind of what we would like to do.

1387
02:00:55,040 --> 02:01:00,660
Now, once the site is identified and we're starting to move forward, that'll get fine tune,

1388
02:01:02,880 --> 02:01:12,400
but they have brought a proposal that includes sick lane pool and outdoor aquatic area with

1389
02:01:12,400 --> 02:01:17,820
splash pad, lazy river, like little combana kind of places for you to hang out with your

1390
02:01:17,820 --> 02:01:25,020
family, possibility of a baseball field, baseball diamond, they will of course,

1391
02:01:25,020 --> 02:01:32,680
have a child care center because that's what, that's what kind of prompts them to actually build

1392
02:01:32,680 --> 02:01:40,080
out a full site or to look toward having a full site is expanding their current offerings

1393
02:01:41,280 --> 02:01:50,220
with with why care down on 64. And so it looks great, you know, I'm excited about this potential

1394
02:01:50,220 --> 02:01:53,540
partnership and hope to see it continue to move forward.

1395
02:01:54,700 --> 02:02:00,100
Lots of moving parts with this one, lots of things up in the air with this one, but they

1396
02:02:01,260 --> 02:02:07,080
have approached the Board of Commissioners and let them know of their desire to aid a

1397
02:02:07,080 --> 02:02:09,080
location here in Lakeland.

1398
02:02:09,480 --> 02:02:14,200
So hopefully I will have more information as this project unfolds.

1399
02:02:14,200 --> 02:02:18,020
I will certainly keep you all of you in the loop as things progress.

1400
02:02:18,020 --> 02:02:21,910
So the other announcements.

1401
02:02:25,460 --> 02:02:27,390
Well, thank you all for your time. I know that tonight was

1402
02:02:28,980 --> 02:02:29,900
Long one

1403
02:02:32,280 --> 02:02:33,100
Is it really?

1404
02:02:34,920 --> 02:02:37,700
Did just light around side because of the time of the

1405
02:02:43,780 --> 02:02:44,830
motion to adjourn?

1406
02:02:46,860 --> 02:02:47,160
favor

1407
02:02:49,580 --> 02:02:50,980
Take your right