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okay uh good evening everyone uh city

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council the City attorney and the city

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manager nice to see you we're here for closed session conference

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with legal council initiation of

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litigation government code health and

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safety code

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D4 and um is there any public comment

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tonight no not seeing or hearing any

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anybody jump up is there anyone on Zoom

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no one on Zoom no one on Zoom well um

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let's uh move to close

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session are we moving

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yeah you know what we didn't have the

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uh thank you

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for uh acceptance of agenda and

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urgency uh move to accept agenda as

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posted or move to add or delete items

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I'll make a motion to accept the agenda

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as posted second I have a motion in a

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second all in favor I uh hearing none opposed uh the motion

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carries uh consent

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agenda put my glasses on for

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this the consent the following consent

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agen items are expected to be routine

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and non-controversial they will be acted

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upon by the council at one time without

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discussion any council member May

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request that any item be removed from

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the consent agenda for discussion under

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the regular agenda removed items will be

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considered following the consent

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calendar portion of this agenda consent

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agenda a wave reading accept by title of

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ordinances under consideration at this

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meeting for either introduction or

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passage per government code section 3693

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4 B approved minutes of the city council

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regular meeting for February 6

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2024 and the special meeting of February

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2024 C approve application for

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2024-25

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election they adopt an ordinance of the

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city council of of the city of Lakeport

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amending section

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2.10 of title two of the Lakeport

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municipal code to authorize the C city

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manager to sign written contracts and

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convences and have design approval and

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Authority

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would uh would anybody like to uh poll

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would anybody from the council like to

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pull any of these items for further

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discussion not hearing that would

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anybody in the public like to pull any

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of these items for further

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discussion Danny which item would you

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like to pull C

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so the technically only the council can

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pull items but if the mayor or if

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somebody else wants to pull an item

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based on

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public feedback that's fine but just

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please let us know which um I I'll I'll

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approve pulling that for Danny so that

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he can speak on that so uh can I have a

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motion on the other three public com on

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the remainders as well pardon you get

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need to get public comment on the

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remaining uh consent agenda okay thank

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you and we can take public comment

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without pulling the item correct that is

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correct so if you want to just let Danny

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come up and give his public comment then

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one of us can if we want to pull the

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item and discuss it okay Danny would you

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like to come

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forward Danny wind I'll be back for

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another agenda item later but um I just

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wanted to mention that on item c um I am

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in support of approval but there's um

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debris and overgrowth on the western

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sidewalk there on what they're they're

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requesting um I just noticed because I

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walk by very often and see that there's

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overgrowth on that sidewalk there and so

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just thinking about uh the voters that

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are coming coming in that day and having

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a clear sidewalk thanks okay thank you

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Dany all right then Stacy um we can move

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forward with all four of them can I get

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a motion from somebody yeah Mr Mayor if

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there's nothing further I'll want to

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make sure we've got public comment from

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Danny room as well

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wind I just was wondering if there was

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I'm sorry is there anybody online Nick

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uh there's a couple participants online

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but I'm seeing No Hands raised for this

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item can I get a motion yes with nothing

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further Mr Mayor I move to approve the

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consent agenda second got a motion in a

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second all those in favor I I any

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opposed not hearing any the motion

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requests public

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input I'm looking

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for Michael Green

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thank you thank you uh just very quickly

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now wearing my supervisor hat today uh

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wearing my Lakeport yach Club hat um and

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just wanted to share uh yes uh some

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challenges going on the Storm two weeks

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ago uh blew out the Marine at 1400 South

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Main Street uh several of our uh club

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members had boats affected uh in this

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most recent storm boats are still

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getting moved around it's kind of

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interesting so one of our club members

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does have a boat at one of the Fifth

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Street docks uh we do have plans to

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assist him to get off of there um uh but

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it's uh we have another club member uh

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kind of taking Sanctuary at one of our

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other buoys uh so I wanted to share that

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there are bootes in play and we're

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trying to work through it as best we can

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in support of our club members and also

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those others that might be impacted as

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far as the building itself I I did want

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to share just in the spirit of

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transparency um uh we're not accepting

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rentals at this time as we look at some

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uh maintenance issues with the building

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itself uh I appreciate everyone that's

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been out and kind of taking a look at it

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uh we had Kevin out there last week and a couple other people so I don't

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have a firm timeline some of it is honey

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do list stuff some of it is more

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substantive and uh I have a couple more

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people coming out to look at some things

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so I just wanted to share that uh thank

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uh City staff for their patience with

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our bobbing boats uh and uh as soon as I

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get a firmer timeline a firmer uh plan

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of what's going to go on with the actual

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Club operations I'll certainly uh reach

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out to you in the meantime if you guys

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have any questions or anybody in the

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public has has any questions uh the club

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cell phone number is 707

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263-5076 and so if anybody wants to

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reach out individually I'll certainly uh

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show you what's going on as best I know

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and also share what I don't know which

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is a lot at the time so thank you thank

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Michael anybody else for public

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comment Danny did you want to make

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public comment on this

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tonight it's on a specific item that's

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already on the agenda tonight okay thank

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you okay um not seeing anybody else for

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public comment do we have anybody online

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uh seeing No Hands raised on Zoom thank

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you uh we're going to bring it back to

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uh we're going to close public comment

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thank you

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public input uh we're moving along to

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business uh item number six uh Traffic

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Safety update receive and file the

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traffic safety related complaints report

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Kevin yes thank you Mr Mayor honorable

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council members I'll start this off but

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I'm I'm sure that uh both um Ron and uh

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and chief rasmason will uh want to uh

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add some additional items on it um as

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you've become aware you know we're kind

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of um beginning several years back now

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we've been uh kind of tracking uh

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traffic complaints as they come in and

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then doing periodic reviews with your

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city council uh kind of giving an update

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on uh you know what action most of the

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complaints that come in are are pretty

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uh routine in nature that we can

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generally uh get to right away you know

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if a a sign is missing or damaged or uh

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you know some of the ones that you see

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here referenced are you missing uh a

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paint or faded paint at a bus stop or

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like that we've been able to kind of hit

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those items in there um you know

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generally we use these complaints to

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kind of inform and track Trends if

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there's you know different things that

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we need to do you get together I think

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some of the ones that have come up in

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the past of uh the need for greater and

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enhanced um uh Crossing features

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throughout the city in uh you know

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strategic locations uh that's informed

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uh you know kind of our our project

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alignment and as you'll see uh the

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second half of this report does go with

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into the various uh upcoming Traffic

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Safety projects that we have where you

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see we're adding a lot more enhanced

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sidewalks Ada curban ramps uh to

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projects as we go along uh the big the

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biggies being 11th Street Lakeport

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Boulevard um in Main Street um this

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particular period of reference I think

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the last report we gave to your Council

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was in September of 2023 uh we only had

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um I mean a limited number of complaints

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I think seven most of them were uh

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easily

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resolved I think the one notable traffic

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safety issue during this period um is

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the issue of um wrongway driving down

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the the one-way segment uh that is High

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Street uh located between 11th and um

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Clear Lake Avenue um this has been one

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that your Council has been brought to

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attention in the past it kind of plays

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into the uh larger uh one that we've

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discussed at length as well the kind of

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Main Street uh clearly Lake Avenue High

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Street kind of I call it the snake that

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uh kind of allows primary North South AC

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this section of roadway plays into that

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um it's a one-way segment allowing

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traffic um along 11th Street uh to

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access that Corridor and then it doesn't

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go down to Forbes or Main Street and add

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to the the traffic pieces are there uh

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we have received um several complaints

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uh regarding uh vehicles traveling the

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wrong way uh down that segment of

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roadway um the complainant who's here

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I'm sure she'll speak to it as well um

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has provided us with documentation uh

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showing you know that this is a regular

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occurrence um we did take some

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mitigation

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measures uh I know a few months back

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where we we moved the do not enter sign

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that's on the The High Street facing uh

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section uh to a more prominent location

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um we did post um a a camera up there it

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was a game camera that wasn't it wasn't

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designed for what we were using it for

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so it was very difficult to to go

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through all the video evidence we did

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note um you know one or two occasions

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where Vehicles were traveling the wrong

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way it appeared that uh they were folks

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that lived on the street um but um I

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mean we have documentation showing that

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this is a regular occurrence um the the

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piece that we kind of have is that we're

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kind of stuck at you know in impass as

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far as having readily available kind of

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easy you know

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off-the-shelf cheap solutions for this

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um at this point we've come to the

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conclusion that any change on this area

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is going to take a little bit more uh

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you design effort and likely you know

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some greater Capital Improvement you

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know sort of project effort um it's

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staff's opinion that this is more of an

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Enforcement issue and uh we are getting

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to a point now where our where our

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police staff is going to be fully in

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force here and we'll be able to utilize

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them in some greater parking enforcement

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efforts not just at this location but I

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mean we do receive complaints you know

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from you know intersections people not

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stopping at stop signs or speeding

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complaints in pieces like that so we

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feel like that this is best handed

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through that enforcement aspect uh the

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complainant did uh make some suggestions

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on some possible improvements uh that uh

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that could be considered to kind of

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mitigate these issues those include

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retractable strips or the possible

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closure of the block um I know and we we

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did uh get some follow-up conversation

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with council member Costa asking for

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some additional detail um in regards to

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what those measures would actually be

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and what they would cost and I know that

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uh that Ron has done some research on

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there that we can we can talk about some

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of those measures in some more detail um

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if your Council wishes I will note that

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um one of the items that we've been uh

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pushing for was in regards to you know

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seeking grant funding for uh message

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board SLP trailer to replace one that we

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had in use several years back uh we do

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actually have an active Grant

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application in in play for that so we're

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hoping that that's going to be something

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that we're going to have at our disposal

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as well that wouldn't that would be a

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tool that could be added to this

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particular issue um as well but it could

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also be used throughout throughout

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different areas of the city um but

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overall um I think that's kind of a of

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it we can certainly dig deeper into the

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one-way segment and we can absolutely

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answer any questions that your Council

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may have in regards to any of the

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upcoming Traffic Safety projects I do

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believe that uh Mr Danny W did submit

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comments that um written comments that

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you guys have there in regards to some

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of these projects as well um some of

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them are um you know asking for

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additional features to be considered as

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we talk through them so I'll turn it

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over to council at this point Point um

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and uh if you want to dig into any of

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those items a little deeper I'm sure Ron

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and Brad can add a little bit more into

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there but I'll turn it back to the

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council for questions thanks

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Kevin yeah Mr Mayor uh um if I may the

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thought of closing that street down you

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know I live on 11th and um for 55 years

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I've been dying to just drive through

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there once you know just to say I did it

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but um when I heard closing the street

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off has anybody done a uh traffic count

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going you know in the proper direction I

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mean I know when I hear these traffic

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numbers they're like enormous and I just

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curious if if that's been done ever um

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because I I mean if it was closed you

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know I would go down to the you know

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where you would normally have to go when

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you're going the other direction and

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make the corner and oh my God it must be

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you know like an eighth of a mile out of

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my way but the thought of that being

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closed um is not really that big a deal

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but I have no idea how many people just

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shoot through they're going in the

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proper direction and then it's always a

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situation because you have the oncoming

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traffic and then you have to wait and

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then they're also coming around the

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corner you know that it's it's not

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really a crazy um um idea that if it was

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were closed it wouldn't be a big thing

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until you know later on unless there's

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like 5,000 people going through there a

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day I have no idea that's just my

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comment as someone that lives on Le and

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been through there and around there for

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50 years yeah we we looked at a couple

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things we we looked a little bit at the

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retractable uh strips that that Ron can

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talked to a little bit about um there we

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looked at what would be involved in

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regards to the closure of that uh

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roadway there and then we also looked um

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at um slightly at speed bumps but then

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the last one was really if you converted

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it to two-way traffic and each of those

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has a whole Litany of of items that I

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don't know that they physically solve

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the issue at hand and some of them I

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think would aggravate other um other

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items on there so I mean we can go

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through if if it's council's desire I it

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might be informative to just go through

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those pieces now to kind of inform the

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debate and and uh and U and you know for

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and public comment before as well I I

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don't know if that's the the council's

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it's it's just I was just was throwing

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it out if anybody knew the volume of

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traffic um going through that street on

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any given day is it you know like a 100

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is it like a thousand or is it like 10 I

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mean I have no idea it's more when the

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schools are in session for sure oh yeah

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I would

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imagine I there is not data on that

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oneway section of North High there is

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however a pretty current study on High

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Street between Clear Lake Avenue and

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20th that lists

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7,250 vehicles per day on High Street

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between Clear Lake Avenue and

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20th and regarding Dead ending that

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street the first major hurdle that you

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would bump into would

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be there's a regulation that would

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require 40 foot radius turnaround oh at

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a dead end stre never

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mind and that would be the first hurdle

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to get over the second thing to consider

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there on the dead end even if we wanted

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to make a hammerhead a 40 foot

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Hammerhead or turn it into a culdesac

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style it would increase the traffic to

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Forbes and 11th which is the highest

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accident intersection in the city and I think it would just exacerbate an

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already high accident intersection the

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spike strips traffic control devices are

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controlled by mutcd the manual and

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uniform traffic control devices and any

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sort of Spike strip in a road would not

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be in compliance with anything that

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mutcd has published so I I don't think

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we would consider

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putting something that was out of

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compliance with mutcd that we follow

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that for our street markings our street

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signs our cones our barricades

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everything follow mutcd standards and I

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mean there's good liability reasons to

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follow

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mutcd um and so that would be the

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challenges with the dead end or a spike

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strip as opening it up to two-way

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traffic also we we looked at and present

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some issues you would one it's not clear

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whether there's enough room there to

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allow two-way traffic and parking it's

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clear that there is not there's not

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there you go uh the other the other

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issue is you would be creating a kind of

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a dangerous left-hand a blind left-hand

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turn issue there um for vehicles

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traveling uh West and then ultimately

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North along uh Clear Lake Avenue and

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High Street

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um you know that they would you know

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they even if you Market we know that

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this becomes an issue it's one that

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reoccurs in this report we have the same

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issue going the opposite way onto North

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Maine uh with people turning left um you

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know traveling you know along going down

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to going down to Main Street and then

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turning left and we have that clearly

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marked um on the road and stuff but yet

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we still continue to have you know

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complaints received about folks turning

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left there so you'd be creating another

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intersection Hazard at that at that

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other side um let me interrupt just for

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a second I want to

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apologize um it says here that all of

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these were deemed impractical and I knew

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there was many many many reasons I just

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asked that one question it seemed kind

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of innocuous and obviously this you have

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done your due diligence and I apologize

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for even asking that sensitive question

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these These are these are pie I mean

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this is not to not to state that this

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issue doesn't occur I mean I I don't I

480
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don't think anybody's arguing that there

481
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aren't vehicles that are traveling the

482
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wrong way down the strip it's just it's

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just not an easy one easy one to fix um

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the 11th Street Corridor study does talk

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about you know an eventual kind of

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smaller roundabout at 11th and um and

487
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Forbes uh recognizing that that is the

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most hazardous intersection that we do

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have in the city that's where our

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highest level of accident rates occur if

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you had a roundabout about in there then

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I mean you know might be something at

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that point that you could consider how

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you would handle this um you know

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because you'd be feeding it into a much

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safer intersection but you know once

497
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again that's that's not an overnight uh

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Endeavor and it comes with a with a

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pretty hefty price tag um in there as

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well so I mean we did we did take a look

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at all of these options and then I I

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think the only one we didn't cover with

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speed bumps which are also

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um I one you know the fire chief isn't

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here but he doesn't like them I I can

506
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tell you that right now and then um we

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do experience complaints uh with speed

508
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bump usage because you know you start to

509
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get grinding you get other noises and

510
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other things and then you get people who

511
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drive off the roadway to get around them

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in pieces and I'm not sure that that

513
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would really you know somebody yes it

514
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would make an an extra barrier um you

515
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know and you know someone might consider

516
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oh it's really not worth the four

517
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seconds that I lose by going and making

518
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two more rights onto Forbes um but you

519
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know this is a heavily used stretch of

520
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roadway as someone who travels it

521
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frequently to get to the schools um this

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is this is a critical piece to our

523
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Norths South Connection in town like it

524
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or not I I would not say it's the a

525
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great option I think our whole north

526
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south um section of traffic in this area

527
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is is hindered as we've we've looked at

528
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in in different areas um but this is a piece of that puzzle so I mean

529
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this is what's brought me back and staff

530
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back too this really does become more of

531
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an enforcement related issue um you know

532
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among other areas we get several

533
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complaints about you know speeding in

534
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different sections and you know Mis stop

535
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signs uh frequently occur here at uh

536
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third in Maine so I mean I think as we

537
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ramp up our staffing this gets put on

538
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the list where we have a more active

539
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enforcement related I mean that at this

540
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point is is staff's

541
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recommendation I'm sorry go ahead I'm

542
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sorry I have some questions and comments

543
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probably all kind of mush together and I

544
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am interested it sounds like you you

545
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noted there's somebody from the public

546
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that yes and I'm looking forward to that

547
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:14,080
because I think that's going to be

548
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:18,120
valuable to hear so

549
00:24:18,120 --> 00:24:20,320
um I don't think this is exactly a

550
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,000
rhetorical question but here's the thing

551
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,320
I wonder why was this put in place to

552
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:25,799
begin with and have we solved the

553
00:24:25,799 --> 00:24:28,000
problem that we attempted to solve is

554
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:28,919
this

555
00:24:28,919 --> 00:24:32,440
oneway um travel actually did it

556
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,520
actually bring something that we needed

557
00:24:35,520 --> 00:24:38,399
or has it just sort of outlived its its

558
00:24:38,399 --> 00:24:40,760
time I'm I'm I like the idea if we have

559
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,880
enough um officers enforcement that

560
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:44,880
sounds good I think for a while maybe

561
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:50,039
that just was not possible and so what I find um uncomfortable is well we

562
00:24:50,039 --> 00:24:52,679
just have an unsolvable problem um we've

563
00:24:52,679 --> 00:24:54,520
got people going the wrong way which I

564
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,240
think can be inherently dangerous

565
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:57,919
because they have to go around that

566
00:24:57,919 --> 00:25:00,120
fence to go down the wrong way and so if

567
00:25:00,120 --> 00:25:01,919
someone's coming the right way now you

568
00:25:01,919 --> 00:25:06,440
got two cars in the same spot and

569
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:08,880
um I don't want to make assumptions but

570
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:10,880
I I I drove down there today and there's

571
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:12,919
there might be about six houses maybe

572
00:25:12,919 --> 00:25:15,279
that can call High Street their their

573
00:25:15,279 --> 00:25:19,240
name but that's because we've created

574
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:20,919
that like the city created this one

575
00:25:20,919 --> 00:25:22,600
block that's one way and so the

576
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:24,640
residents that are on that block are the

577
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:28,120
people who are um daytoday going to be

578
00:25:28,120 --> 00:25:29,880
maybe most impacted or have the most

579
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,760
concern because they're watching this

580
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,120
happen more than anybody else and so I

581
00:25:34,120 --> 00:25:37,159
wouldn't to me it's important if even

582
00:25:37,159 --> 00:25:40,880
one out of six is coming and and um

583
00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:43,520
describing the problem I I think that's

584
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,279
um I'm glad that we're looking at it

585
00:25:45,279 --> 00:25:47,120
because I think that's really important

586
00:25:47,120 --> 00:25:51,240
when we're coming down 11th from Safeway

587
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,279
there are four other streets that people

588
00:25:53,279 --> 00:25:56,600
can turn on from 11th to Clear Lake

589
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,320
Avenue and then come down down clarck

590
00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:01,679
Avenue and then go left onto High Street

591
00:26:01,679 --> 00:26:04,000
I don't they can't turn left on clarck

592
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:08,840
Avenue I don't think they can from the barric I tried it out to say that

593
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:10,960
this and you know turning left on clear

594
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,840
Avenue doesn't seem to be now when the

595
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,360
traffic after school I'll have to run

596
00:26:16,360 --> 00:26:17,799
another experiment that might make

597
00:26:17,799 --> 00:26:19,640
things all different but turning left on

598
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,960
Clear Lake Avenue uh I don't think

599
00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,360
coming straight across on High Street is

600
00:26:25,360 --> 00:26:27,320
a piece of cake either going down Clear

601
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:29,480
Lake Avenue so I don't know that the

602
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,520
one-way traffic I'm trying to picture

603
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:37,200
just exactly what it helped now to the

604
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,320
point maybe this street is significantly

605
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,080
smaller than the other streets Tunis

606
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,960
brush North Pool because those are all

607
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,200
two-way streets that go from 11th to

608
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,760
Clear Lake Avenue um so I don't know

609
00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:51,760
that people coming from the freeway for

610
00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,640
example have to wait to turn on Forbes

611
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,000
and then go back up to go to Clear Lake

612
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:58,360
Avenue I mean I think there are other

613
00:26:58,360 --> 00:27:00,480
ways for people to navigate that so to

614
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:01,840
me it just comes down to like I don't

615
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,279
really know yet what we should do

616
00:27:04,279 --> 00:27:05,840
because I'm not sure what problem we

617
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,880
tried to solve well I know Kim it's that

618
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,360
bend right there because it's the the

619
00:27:11,360 --> 00:27:14,799
only street that doesn't it goes it

620
00:27:14,799 --> 00:27:18,039
keeps going and it turns right there so

621
00:27:18,039 --> 00:27:20,000
if you if you come down 11th you turn

622
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,360
left and you come to the stop sign that

623
00:27:22,360 --> 00:27:25,480
traffic oncoming is it keeps

624
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,320
going so I'm no traffic engineer but to

625
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,320
me I see it like that can't just it

626
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:33,720
can't be another way I'm I guess I'm not

627
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,279
picturing because you come down a the

628
00:27:35,279 --> 00:27:38,919
traffic coming towards you automatically

629
00:27:38,919 --> 00:27:42,440
turns it that thorough far keeps going

630
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,000
it's AB bendon doesn't that happen even

631
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,200
if you're on the oneway street going

632
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:48,120
straight if I'm picturing what you're

633
00:27:48,120 --> 00:27:49,679
talking I mean it would you would have

634
00:27:49,679 --> 00:27:53,519
to put a stop sign so I like I said but

635
00:27:53,519 --> 00:27:55,279
that's the difference that that street

636
00:27:55,279 --> 00:27:58,120
keeps going that doesn't stop it but it

637
00:27:58,120 --> 00:28:00,679
turns you're I'm sorry I I don't know

638
00:28:00,679 --> 00:28:02,600
that this is like I don't know that this

639
00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:04,480
is probably not proper that we're having

640
00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:05,840
this conversation but it is helpful

641
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:07,919
information I'm just not sure that I'm

642
00:28:07,919 --> 00:28:09,799
picturing it I think I'm no yeah it's

643
00:28:09,799 --> 00:28:11,320
proper I just wanted to point out how

644
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,200
it's different from those other

645
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,320
blocks it

646
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:16,840
turns

647
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,440
because So Clear Lake Avenue goes up and

648
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,360
then turns on to High Street correct M

649
00:28:23,360 --> 00:28:25,600
okay and High Street going that way you

650
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:30,240
can't turn so maybe we've created a turn

651
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:32,760
I'm not sure

652
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:36,679
um I guess I'm just again I'm if this

653
00:28:36,679 --> 00:28:40,080
seems to be something that is a safety

654
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,440
issue that can be described by the

655
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,000
residents there I just hope that we can

656
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,279
identify something feasible that we can

657
00:28:47,279 --> 00:28:50,440
do that will be an intervention rather

658
00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,640
than saying there's really nothing that

659
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:58,000
we can do well i' I'd just like to asked

660
00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,559
one quick question have we considered an

661
00:28:59,559 --> 00:29:02,720
alpr there and can can we temporarily

662
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,159
move an alpr there from another spot in

663
00:29:05,159 --> 00:29:08,440
the city just to just to to see what's

664
00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:11,080
going on there you mean that the cross

665
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:12,919
the The Crossing uh and enhanced

666
00:29:12,919 --> 00:29:15,880
Crossing or oh you're talking about

667
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,360
automated License Plate

668
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,120
Reader can we put can we put one there

669
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:21,799
and put a little bit of lighting over

670
00:29:21,799 --> 00:29:24,200
there and maybe a sign that says we're

671
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,399
going to find you on the fence we can

672
00:29:26,399 --> 00:29:27,840
use

673
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,480
for that purpose I'd have to do some

674
00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,200
research on that I mean you know we we

675
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:34,720
put a camera out there but it sounded

676
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,279
like it was more like a game trail

677
00:29:36,279 --> 00:29:38,880
camera I'm wondering if one of our aprs

678
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,880
that we have at every Inlet and Outlet

679
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,200
in the city if that wouldn't be a good

680
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,559
use for one we wouldn't be able to I

681
00:29:45,559 --> 00:29:46,960
don't believe we'd be able to ticket

682
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,519
using them I mean you'd be able to

683
00:29:49,519 --> 00:29:52,120
observe how many people ticket then

684
00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,120
that's not that's not worth doing yeah

685
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:58,000
because the problem is those cameras

686
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,240
are not going to give us a picture of a

687
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:04,519
driver that we would need to write a

688
00:30:04,519 --> 00:30:07,200
citation okay so I guess we can't get

689
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,320
give a citation in the mail to the car

690
00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:10,679
that does it like when you go over the

691
00:30:10,679 --> 00:30:12,159
Golden Gate Bridge and you don't pay

692
00:30:12,159 --> 00:30:15,399
your toll we have to be able to on that

693
00:30:15,399 --> 00:30:18,080
kind of a violation identify the driver

694
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,360
okay to site the driver darn it it would

695
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:23,120
have been too I mean there is camera

696
00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:26,039
technology that can do that it's just

697
00:30:26,039 --> 00:30:28,960
not part of the PR set up would that be

698
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:30,600
something that you could look at for us

699
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,480
and bring back probably very expensive

700
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,919
yeah we certainly could look at a we

701
00:30:34,919 --> 00:30:37,200
don't want to like can't like council

702
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:39,039
member parlet just said we we don't want

703
00:30:39,039 --> 00:30:41,600
to spend a ton of money on this or a ton

704
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:43,279
of time but I just thought it just seems

705
00:30:43,279 --> 00:30:45,960
like the the easiest strategy yes we can

706
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:47,559
it would be similar to like a red light

707
00:30:47,559 --> 00:30:50,720
camera yeah same same thing so we could

708
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,760
certainly look into that any other

709
00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:55,799
questions from Council can I address

710
00:30:55,799 --> 00:30:57,880
council member Costa's question yes

711
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,799
please so if I was following

712
00:31:01,799 --> 00:31:06,159
along the question is why was it

713
00:31:06,159 --> 00:31:10,039
originally designed as a oneway and what

714
00:31:10,039 --> 00:31:12,840
safety concern did that

715
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,240
address the the answer to why it was

716
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:17,200
originally designed there I spent a lot

717
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,600
of time trying to figure out and find

718
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,519
the original design comments and it's

719
00:31:23,519 --> 00:31:25,799
been a oneway for a very very very long

720
00:31:25,799 --> 00:31:28,760
time many many years and I couldn't find

721
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,919
it I have talked to the city engineer

722
00:31:31,919 --> 00:31:34,559
and other engineers and the biggest

723
00:31:34,559 --> 00:31:37,720
safety concern that that addresses if we

724
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:42,600
made that a two-way street North High it

725
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:46,360
is not B it would require no parking one

726
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:48,480
side of the street at a minimum to

727
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,679
accommodate two-way

728
00:31:50,679 --> 00:31:53,519
traffic at that point if it was two-way

729
00:31:53,519 --> 00:31:56,880
anyone traveling westbound on Clear Lake

730
00:31:56,880 --> 00:32:00,279
Avenue wishing to turn left onto North

731
00:32:00,279 --> 00:32:02,760
High that was now two-way they would be

732
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,559
turning blind left because of the 90

733
00:32:05,559 --> 00:32:09,840
degree Corner that is the biggest safety

734
00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:14,240
issue that the oneway addresses there is

735
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:16,240
eliminating the possibility of making

736
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,399
that left turn blind you can't see the

737
00:32:18,399 --> 00:32:21,039
cars that are

738
00:32:21,039 --> 00:32:24,159
coming Southbound on high as they're

739
00:32:24,159 --> 00:32:26,080
making that 90 so you would be turning

740
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,519
blind onto there that's the safety

741
00:32:28,519 --> 00:32:29,840
concern that the

742
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:34,000
oneway addresses there have been other

743
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,159
safety measures implemented there the

744
00:32:37,159 --> 00:32:39,320
speed surveys

745
00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:43,320
indicate that that portion of North High

746
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:46,399
between Clear Lake and

747
00:32:46,399 --> 00:32:49,840
20th are it would be adequate to have a

748
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:55,240
35 M hour speed limit there and there

749
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,880
is a difficult

750
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,480
process

751
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,679
to get a lower speed limit than what has

752
00:33:02,679 --> 00:33:05,519
been identified in the speed survey but

753
00:33:05,519 --> 00:33:08,200
it it's been done on that stretch of

754
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,519
high and so the speed limit is under the

755
00:33:11,519 --> 00:33:15,039
recommended 35 it set at

756
00:33:15,039 --> 00:33:20,360
30 and I went back in Crash data for the

757
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:24,279
last 12 years and I haven't seen or

758
00:33:24,279 --> 00:33:27,720
found an instance of a reported crash

759
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:31,159
at that intersection in the last 12

760
00:33:31,159 --> 00:33:34,559
years so to answer your question I would

761
00:33:34,559 --> 00:33:37,399
say yes the safety measures that it was

762
00:33:37,399 --> 00:33:41,159
originally designed for have been

763
00:33:41,159 --> 00:33:43,799
effective so it sounds sounds like prior

764
00:33:43,799 --> 00:33:46,279
to that there was some crash data then

765
00:33:46,279 --> 00:33:48,360
that or they were just trying

766
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:52,159
to avoid having any continue to avoid

767
00:33:52,159 --> 00:33:54,799
having them the original design on that

768
00:33:54,799 --> 00:33:58,320
is over 50 years ago go so I I don't

769
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:02,760
know my my best guess is this routs back

770
00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:04,159
to the

771
00:34:04,159 --> 00:34:07,600
expressway uh construction um there

772
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:09,399
because originally the highway highway

773
00:34:09,399 --> 00:34:11,919
29 ran down Main Street and did that

774
00:34:11,919 --> 00:34:14,240
snake and ran up to High Street and then

775
00:34:14,240 --> 00:34:16,359
out to Lakeshore Boulevard and when they

776
00:34:16,359 --> 00:34:19,159
constructed the expressway somebody in

777
00:34:19,159 --> 00:34:21,280
their Infinite Wisdom decided 11 Street

778
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:25,919
was the best spot um uh to put the exit

779
00:34:25,919 --> 00:34:27,720
whereas I think if you look at the plat

780
00:34:27,720 --> 00:34:31,480
map of the city Clear Lake Avenue is far

781
00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,159
wider than 11th Street but regardless

782
00:34:34,159 --> 00:34:35,839
that's where we're at is that I think

783
00:34:35,839 --> 00:34:37,599
that that's where this all sort of stems

784
00:34:37,599 --> 00:34:40,879
back and develops that you had a new

785
00:34:40,879 --> 00:34:44,079
freeway that came in there and you

786
00:34:44,079 --> 00:34:47,240
needed to somehow get that traffic back

787
00:34:47,240 --> 00:34:50,599
over to that major north south connector

788
00:34:50,599 --> 00:34:52,320
up High Street and out to Lakeshore

789
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:57,440
Boulevard and um High Street lines up

790
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,839
with that that Corridor out and I think

791
00:34:59,839 --> 00:35:01,960
that's where you got that kind of rather

792
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:03,280
than have them go all the way down to

793
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,079
main or Forbes and then make you know

794
00:35:05,079 --> 00:35:07,320
two or three additional lefts to get

795
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,839
back on I think that you know I I don't

796
00:35:09,839 --> 00:35:11,960
have anything to back but I I would

797
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:13,880
imagine that that's all where it sort of

798
00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:16,520
stemm from was when uh the the

799
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,040
expressway came in through Lakeport 11th

800
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,240
Street became a principal Corridor um

801
00:35:22,240 --> 00:35:23,760
because if you look once you get past

802
00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:27,040
pool Street 11th Street looks just as

803
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,440
narrow as 10th 9th 8 7th and six it was

804
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:32,480
not originally designed uh to be a major

805
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,200
collector Road uh to connect into that

806
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:38,000
area so my guess is that that's where a

807
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,720
lot of this stuff stemm directly from

808
00:35:40,720 --> 00:35:43,040
and so it was a means of getting traffic

809
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,280
over there to that north south for folks

810
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:49,680
that are still looking to travel up to Lakes Shore Boulevard just to follow

811
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:51,040
so Ron I just want to thank you for the

812
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:52,880
time that you took to to try to I know I

813
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,359
sent some questions to city um the city

814
00:35:55,359 --> 00:35:56,880
manager so thank you for looking into

815
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,040
that and bringing this information and

816
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,520
then if I understood the explanation

817
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,319
about the concern for the 90° and how it

818
00:36:04,319 --> 00:36:06,480
would appear that we have successfully

819
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:10,319
uh avoided having a crash such as

820
00:36:10,319 --> 00:36:15,160
that um if people are using the oneway

821
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,599
road in the opposite

822
00:36:17,599 --> 00:36:19,839
direction are they doing the same

823
00:36:19,839 --> 00:36:23,400
behavior that we were worried a two-way

824
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:25,640
Road would do I mean it sounds like that

825
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:28,040
might be the same using that road going

826
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,359
making a leftand turn onto High

827
00:36:31,359 --> 00:36:34,160
Street if it were a two-way road that

828
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,720
would create a certain danger it sounds

829
00:36:36,720 --> 00:36:40,000
like people are deciding to sign on for

830
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:41,839
that danger anyway if they're doing that

831
00:36:41,839 --> 00:36:45,069
when it's a oneway

832
00:36:45,079 --> 00:36:48,480
road I don't know I have not witnessed

833
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,599
somebody going the wrong way down there

834
00:36:50,599 --> 00:36:53,119
I don't live over there I go that way

835
00:36:53,119 --> 00:36:55,079
sometimes but I haven't seen it I would

836
00:36:55,079 --> 00:36:57,000
only assume that if you were were going

837
00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:58,480
to go the wrong way you would be

838
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:03,000
traveling south on high and go straight

839
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:06,319
through there but I guess yes the answer

840
00:37:06,319 --> 00:37:08,040
to your question would be yes if there's

841
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,880
an irresponsible driver that

842
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,960
doesn't pay attention to the vehicle

843
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,640
codes there's no end to the scenarios

844
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,880
that that they could commit I mean I'm

845
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,240
sure Brad and his folks could tell

846
00:37:23,240 --> 00:37:25,000
stories all night long

847
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,720
about the

848
00:37:27,720 --> 00:37:30,200
nonsensical reasoning that people have I

849
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:37,109
have to say Amen to that right thank

850
00:37:37,119 --> 00:37:41,309
you council

851
00:37:41,319 --> 00:37:43,400
members yeah we're we're gonna open this

852
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,520
up to the public Ruby would you like to

853
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:47,319
come up and speak on

854
00:37:47,319 --> 00:37:51,319
this yes I would I live on that one my

855
00:37:51,319 --> 00:37:53,640
name is Ruby Jones I live at 1150 North

856
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:54,400
High

857
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:57,520
Street um Liv there for 4 47 years not

858
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,839
as long as you can but uh it's been a

859
00:38:00,839 --> 00:38:02,960
one-way Street ever since I moved in

860
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:06,760
there uh Highway 29 did used to come

861
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,640
down and make that turn and then go to

862
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:12,200
Lakeport if you look at at North High

863
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,880
Street it does not line up with the rest

864
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,079
of High

865
00:38:17,079 --> 00:38:20,640
Street okay um there is a sign there

866
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,119
that says do not enter notice tonight

867
00:38:23,119 --> 00:38:27,119
it's been hit again it's bent okay uh

868
00:38:27,119 --> 00:38:29,800
wrongway drivers you have never seen a

869
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:32,200
wrongway driver we have a black pickup

870
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,000
in town that he comes down that road

871
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,200
wrong way numerous times Stan counted

872
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,359
him three times one day I stood there

873
00:38:41,359 --> 00:38:43,599
and gasp and he came down the street the

874
00:38:43,599 --> 00:38:46,640
wrong way towing a cargo trailer he

875
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,839
comes down and turns without stopping

876
00:38:48,839 --> 00:38:51,920
and going out 11th Street we're waiting

877
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,000
for an accident to happen it's going to

878
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,440
happen um I

879
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,960
the uh things that we recommended the

880
00:38:59,960 --> 00:39:02,760
spike strips and all that you know none

881
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:05,000
of that's going to work STS retired

882
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,480
highway patrolman and he said that they

883
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:12,640
do make a speed bump that is straight at

884
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:16,119
one side and angled at the other side

885
00:39:16,119 --> 00:39:17,839
where if those are put in the traffic

886
00:39:17,839 --> 00:39:19,880
that's going the wrong way is going to

887
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:21,760
hit it and they're going to know they're

888
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:25,400
going the wrong way um tourists they may

889
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:26,839
not know in the summertime that they're

890
00:39:26,839 --> 00:39:29,079
going the wrong way but they come down

891
00:39:29,079 --> 00:39:30,760
that street at a high rate of speed

892
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:33,880
we've watched them fly past they missed

893
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:35,880
the barricade but they fly past our

894
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,839
house don't even slow down on 11th

895
00:39:37,839 --> 00:39:40,319
Street and just keep right on going and

896
00:39:40,319 --> 00:39:41,960
somebody's going to get hit at 11th

897
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:44,839
Street eventually uh you didn't have any

898
00:39:44,839 --> 00:39:48,400
reports of accidents and 47 years I

899
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,240
would say 10 times they've gone through

900
00:39:50,240 --> 00:39:51,359
that

901
00:39:51,359 --> 00:39:53,680
barricade one of them was the Air Force

902
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:55,960
recruiter guy middle of the day he drove

903
00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:58,160
right straight through the barricade you

904
00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,359
know we've um had stolen Noles through

905
00:40:00,359 --> 00:40:02,839
the barricade as far as accidents at

906
00:40:02,839 --> 00:40:04,760
that intersection I'm not aware of any

907
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:06,760
of them

908
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:10,280
um I don't know what the answer is since

909
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,800
I last came to the city council meeting

910
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,880
I have seen three police cars on our

911
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,160
street I think the only answer is

912
00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,280
enforcement doesn't do any good for us

913
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,400
to call because by the time we call

914
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,800
they're gone and we can't get a license

915
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,079
number you know I don't know what the

916
00:40:26,079 --> 00:40:26,960
answer

917
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:31,359
is um it just that I hope you know

918
00:40:31,359 --> 00:40:35,400
something can be done uh Stan said that

919
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:37,400
twice he has come down that street the

920
00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:39,920
wrong way when they were doing work on

921
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,480
the road and the road was closed at CL

922
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,839
Lake and 11th Street I mean high in 11th

923
00:40:45,839 --> 00:40:49,400
Street um once he was when he was on

924
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,560
patrol he came home for dinner and he

925
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,319
went to pull out from the pickup was

926
00:40:54,319 --> 00:40:55,880
parked here and the patrol car was

927
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:57,760
parked here here he went to pull out to

928
00:40:57,760 --> 00:41:00,480
go and almost got head on by a carload

929
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,119
of teenagers that were coming around the

930
00:41:02,119 --> 00:41:04,960
street the wrong way fortunately all

931
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:09,119
they got was a ticket you know um I

932
00:41:09,119 --> 00:41:11,280
don't know what the answer is short of

933
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:12,800
enforcement and I don't know how you're

934
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:16,760
going to enforce it because you know I

935
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:19,040
don't know what the answer is but there

936
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:23,000
is this one block pickup that um I don't

937
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:25,040
know who it is or anything but he comes

938
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,000
flying down the street theong way a lot

939
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,119
of the times and if you're turning off

940
00:41:30,119 --> 00:41:31,920
of 11th Street you're not going to

941
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,000
expect anything to come and you were

942
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:36,760
asking about when did it become a oneway

943
00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:39,119
street our neighbors have been

944
00:41:39,119 --> 00:41:42,280
here probably 55 years they went to the

945
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:43,960
city council they came to the city

946
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,200
council to get it made into a one-way

947
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,000
street because there was no parking you

948
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:50,640
know there was no place that they could

949
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:54,319
park so I know it was that way when we

950
00:41:54,319 --> 00:41:56,440
moved in 47 years ago when they been

951
00:41:56,440 --> 00:42:00,000
there 55 so it's been like that for at

952
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,800
least that length of time uh the other

953
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,960
thing is it's narrow enough that the

954
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:07,920
semis when they come around the street

955
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:10,960
drive up on the sidewalk to make that

956
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,720
turn and as far as how much traffic goes

957
00:42:13,720 --> 00:42:16,319
down the road on a school morning I can

958
00:42:16,319 --> 00:42:18,119
stand at my kitchen window and watch the

959
00:42:18,119 --> 00:42:21,319
traffic block stopped on 11 Street

960
00:42:21,319 --> 00:42:24,680
waiting for the people to go rather than

961
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,880
going down the Main Street going that

962
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,200
way they can't go because the people

963
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,599
that went to school 15 minutes earlier

964
00:42:31,599 --> 00:42:34,240
are coming back

965
00:42:34,240 --> 00:42:36,839
so that's all I have to say can I answer

966
00:42:36,839 --> 00:42:40,559
any questions pardon can I answer any

967
00:42:40,559 --> 00:42:44,200
questions I do have one if I may yeah um

968
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,640
it sounds like primarily at least as of

969
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:49,760
late it's been one pickup truck or or

970
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:53,760
one no no no so it's it's three four a

971
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:57,000
day it's daily so not just this one

972
00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,599
particular this one truck is a he's very

973
00:42:59,599 --> 00:43:02,440
loud yeah oh that was another thing you

974
00:43:02,440 --> 00:43:06,880
know uh the noise uh the speed in the

975
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:11,119
noise um there is a law about exhaust

976
00:43:11,119 --> 00:43:13,000
and my husband would really like to see

977
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:15,680
some enforcement on the noise because

978
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:17,880
it's it's very loud we can hear them

979
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:19,400
come down our street and go all the way

980
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,440
to the freeway we can hear

981
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:26,400
them but it's not just the black pickup is a real problem and

982
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,640
we don't know who it is and he goes so

983
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:32,960
fast we can't tell yeah okay thank you

984
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,839
Ruby can I ask just generally off the

985
00:43:35,839 --> 00:43:38,319
top of your head H how many times a week

986
00:43:38,319 --> 00:43:39,960
or how many times a month let's go with

987
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:41,280
a week how many times a week do you

988
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:42,760
think somebody goes the wrong way on

989
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:45,119
that street two or three times a day two

990
00:43:45,119 --> 00:43:48,559
or three times a day so 14 to 21 yeah

991
00:43:48,559 --> 00:43:51,400
thank you for the math there you know we

992
00:43:51,400 --> 00:43:54,200
got 90y old living next door we're old

993
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:55,640
you know we have to back out of our

994
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,960
driveway we have to look every direction

995
00:43:57,960 --> 00:43:59,640
but we got a little two-year-old living

996
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,839
across the street now and we're we're

997
00:44:01,839 --> 00:44:05,280
really worried about him because um well

998
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:09,880
I also notice on here um who is this Mr

999
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:13,440
W is talking about that street and the

1000
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:16,040
lack of sidewalks that the

1001
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,839
people there's there's sidewalks and

1002
00:44:18,839 --> 00:44:20,839
then there's none there's sidewalks and

1003
00:44:20,839 --> 00:44:23,760
then there's none um some people walk on

1004
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:25,640
the sidewalk and then cross and get over

1005
00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,079
the over here the majority people just

1006
00:44:28,079 --> 00:44:30,040
walk in the middle of the

1007
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,760
road you know I don't know why you know

1008
00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,040
we watch them I don't know why they

1009
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,280
don't use the sidewalks that are there

1010
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,520
but if there's a wrong way driver coming

1011
00:44:39,520 --> 00:44:42,319
you know also I have seen wrongway

1012
00:44:42,319 --> 00:44:45,400
drivers Force the traffic going North

1013
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:47,920
over into the turn lane I mean the

1014
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,680
parking Lane that they have there we

1015
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,160
call them the racing stripes because

1016
00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,640
people go down the street so fast I

1017
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:56,920
appre appreciate you coming tonight and

1018
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:58,240
I appreciate that you've been here

1019
00:44:58,240 --> 00:45:00,240
before do do you feel like that we're

1020
00:45:00,240 --> 00:45:02,440
continuing to work on

1021
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:06,000
it well like Kevin said the only thing I

1022
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:07,880
can think of is enforcement and I don't

1023
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,119
know how you're going to do it we're

1024
00:45:10,119 --> 00:45:12,280
gonna keep working on it okay great

1025
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:13,839
thank you I appreciate you listening to

1026
00:45:13,839 --> 00:45:16,640
us and so do all the eight people that

1027
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:17,839
live on the

1028
00:45:17,839 --> 00:45:19,760
street thank

1029
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,240
you uh for the record I like it noted

1030
00:45:22,240 --> 00:45:24,079
that I do drive a black pickup truck but

1031
00:45:24,079 --> 00:45:26,720
that is not

1032
00:45:26,720 --> 00:45:29,440
I dare I was gonna wait till we weren't

1033
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:31,000
recording to ask

1034
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:40,150
you anybody else from the

1035
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:45,349
public this it's a

1036
00:45:45,359 --> 00:45:48,480
little can you hear me yep okay all

1037
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:53,160
right um hi I hope all of you maybe had

1038
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:54,760
a chance to look at it I know you had a

1039
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,680
closed action item before um I'd be

1040
00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,040
happy to read it for you if if someone

1041
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:02,280
hasn't or I just I don't think that's

1042
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:04,200
necessary can you can you touch on the

1043
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,000
things that are important to you yeah um

1044
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,160
I mean I think obviously this is

1045
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,520
something that like touches every single

1046
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:13,599
one of us um it's also not just a

1047
00:46:13,599 --> 00:46:15,680
Lakeport problem this is actually a

1048
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,920
national problem and I think I'm I'm

1049
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,359
really glad that sort of traffic safety

1050
00:46:20,359 --> 00:46:24,480
is getting national attention um I also

1051
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,839
finding out that uh Lakeport and High

1052
00:46:27,839 --> 00:46:29,280
Street used to be a highway just

1053
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:32,359
explains so much more because oftentimes

1054
00:46:32,359 --> 00:46:34,880
highways are not good places for

1055
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:38,040
pedestrians um and I think that

1056
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:39,760
establishing a

1057
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:42,200
committee I certainly would apply if

1058
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,359
it's needed but I think you know there

1059
00:46:44,359 --> 00:46:46,280
might be enough people to populate that

1060
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:48,160
I know that we've had both a traffic

1061
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,079
safety advisory committee and a Parks

1062
00:46:50,079 --> 00:46:53,319
and Rec advisory committee before um I

1063
00:46:53,319 --> 00:46:55,920
think that populating you know 10 people

1064
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:57,599
for a committee might be harder than

1065
00:46:57,599 --> 00:47:00,680
just five um I also think that these

1066
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:04,119
things are also inextricably uh linked

1067
00:47:04,119 --> 00:47:07,480
together um and I think to to one point

1068
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:11,119
about um the lack of accidents at High

1069
00:47:11,119 --> 00:47:16,240
Street and um and Clear Lake Avenue um

1070
00:47:16,240 --> 00:47:18,720
is that even though there's no accident

1071
00:47:18,720 --> 00:47:21,400
data on that

1072
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:25,119
intersection the most the next high or

1073
00:47:25,119 --> 00:47:27,400
the highest intersection that's prone to

1074
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:30,440
these accidents is 11th and Forbes so we

1075
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,760
haven't really addressed the problem

1076
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,359
we've just moved it literally over one

1077
00:47:35,359 --> 00:47:38,280
block um same thing exists in the Forbes

1078
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,800
and 11 thing where we don't have that

1079
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:42,839
pedestrian infrastructure and I think

1080
00:47:42,839 --> 00:47:45,599
that it would be extremely beneficial to

1081
00:47:45,599 --> 00:47:47,760
give people just a little bit of

1082
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:49,520
creative resources just a little bit of

1083
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,240
access to Ron lad and and His Infinite

1084
00:47:52,240 --> 00:47:55,559
Wisdom of of uh this the street codes

1085
00:47:55,559 --> 00:47:58,040
and and um I think we're really

1086
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:00,400
underutilizing the different tools um

1087
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:04,000
enforcement is not the strongest player

1088
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,599
um in in getting Safe Streets um a lot

1089
00:48:07,599 --> 00:48:09,119
of it comes down to built environment

1090
00:48:09,119 --> 00:48:13,480
and Road design um I'd be happy to uh

1091
00:48:13,480 --> 00:48:16,240
answer any specific questions you might

1092
00:48:16,240 --> 00:48:19,280
have but I think that like I've said I

1093
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,400
think I said previous there's a lot of

1094
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,720
these problem intersections um Forbes

1095
00:48:23,720 --> 00:48:26,400
and Martin comes to mind um intersection

1096
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,680
of Lakeport Boulevard and Main Street

1097
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:32,040
comes to mind obviously um with the new

1098
00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:33,960
courthouse that comes to mind and then

1099
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,720
just general pedestrian access to the

1100
00:48:36,720 --> 00:48:39,920
southern southern part of the city um is

1101
00:48:39,920 --> 00:48:43,240
also very limited with Martin and Maine

1102
00:48:43,240 --> 00:48:46,640
and then um I I added some details about

1103
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:49,920
um our water courses and Forbes and

1104
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:51,559
there's public space involved in those

1105
00:48:51,559 --> 00:48:53,799
areas too um and I know we've had you

1106
00:48:53,799 --> 00:48:56,200
know a history of homeless uh people

1107
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,920
experiencing homelessness in you know

1108
00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,920
areas adjacent to these things um you

1109
00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:03,559
know where we still have people

1110
00:49:03,559 --> 00:49:05,480
experiencing homelessness adjacent to

1111
00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,760
the park now even though they might have

1112
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,160
been displaced from the shoreline um

1113
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:12,960
they're still out there and um

1114
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,319
additionally I think that you know

1115
00:49:15,319 --> 00:49:16,960
there's there's some obvious safety

1116
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,200
concerns with traffic just directly

1117
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:21,000
adjacent to the park um one thing that I

1118
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:24,200
didn't include in here was that um on I

1119
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,880
believe Sunday a 16-year-old was hit on

1120
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:30,079
their bicycle Crossing from fifth to

1121
00:49:30,079 --> 00:49:33,960
Maine I'm assuming to go to the park um

1122
00:49:33,960 --> 00:49:36,559
and uh they they're fine they Road Rash

1123
00:49:36,559 --> 00:49:40,079
um but they I don't think that this is

1124
00:49:40,079 --> 00:49:43,200
going to be the last time we see this

1125
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:46,720
and I think the summer is going to have

1126
00:49:46,720 --> 00:49:48,880
a lot more pedestrians than the

1127
00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:52,319
inclement weather we've had now so um if

1128
00:49:52,319 --> 00:49:54,880
you have any specific questions or any

1129
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,200
resources I might point you towards to

1130
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,920
maybe start thinking about things this

1131
00:49:59,920 --> 00:50:01,160
discussion that you guys have had has

1132
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,319
been really awesome to see how you're

1133
00:50:03,319 --> 00:50:07,280
all like taking individual approaches to

1134
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:11,040
possibly fix this um and I just I really

1135
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:12,720
appreciated the conversation and I hope

1136
00:50:12,720 --> 00:50:14,440
there's more specifically like this and

1137
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,720
I hope we get a lot more time uh to do

1138
00:50:16,720 --> 00:50:18,359
that because people are figuring out

1139
00:50:18,359 --> 00:50:21,319
that there's you can talk a little bit

1140
00:50:21,319 --> 00:50:22,920
but you know getting out and just

1141
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:24,880
putting up some some barrels and Cones

1142
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:28,400
actually goes long way for for uh

1143
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:33,319
Traffic Safety thank you Danny thank you

1144
00:50:33,319 --> 00:50:39,240
Danny so the city is kicking off a

1145
00:50:39,240 --> 00:50:41,920
sidewalk survey in conjunction with

1146
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:44,280
Civic well and blue zones we're just at

1147
00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,160
the initial process and actually we're

1148
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:51,119
looking for people that have time and

1149
00:50:51,119 --> 00:50:54,920
are willing to donate some of the input

1150
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:57,280
that that you've given us tonight I mean

1151
00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,839
it is definitely a funding issue the the

1152
00:51:00,839 --> 00:51:03,880
study that we're doing is the first step

1153
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:07,799
that's needed to acquire the funding and

1154
00:51:07,799 --> 00:51:11,280
I mean it would involve ranking and

1155
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:14,119
prioritizing um the different areas

1156
00:51:14,119 --> 00:51:16,960
of pedestrian improvements that would

1157
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,480
most benefit the city and kind of tell

1158
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:21,160
us in which order we should go after

1159
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:23,240
them and we would love to have your your

1160
00:51:23,240 --> 00:51:25,559
input through that process thank you

1161
00:51:25,559 --> 00:51:29,280
yeah the blue zones group is um is very

1162
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,160
um tangential to some of the

1163
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:35,079
organizations that I follow um they I

1164
00:51:35,079 --> 00:51:38,119
don't believe Greg Damron is Greg Damon

1165
00:51:38,119 --> 00:51:40,400
is their um policy guy I believe um I

1166
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,520
don't know if he's specifically has

1167
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:44,359
experience with sort of Street design

1168
00:51:44,359 --> 00:51:46,520
but I know there are people in the

1169
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,040
greater blue zones organization maybe

1170
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,040
not here but elsewhere that would be

1171
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,079
willing to come contribute but yeah I've

1172
00:51:53,079 --> 00:51:55,720
already actually started cataloging some

1173
00:51:55,720 --> 00:51:58,240
of the areas that don't have sidewalks

1174
00:51:58,240 --> 00:51:59,880
that we have problem intersections that

1175
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:02,119
you know don't line up just collecting

1176
00:52:02,119 --> 00:52:03,920
them with pictures and Google Maps and

1177
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:05,160
just taking notes so I've kind of

1178
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:08,520
already got a a little a little database

1179
00:52:08,520 --> 00:52:11,319
very amateur very rough but um yeah it'd

1180
00:52:11,319 --> 00:52:13,559
be I'd be pleased to help out with that

1181
00:52:13,559 --> 00:52:16,400
but I I also think that um you know just

1182
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:20,400
giving a few um a few determined

1183
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,680
citizens just some really just traffic

1184
00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:24,920
cones you know what's in the back of the

1185
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:26,559
utility truck could also go a really

1186
00:52:26,559 --> 00:52:28,720
long way you know even if it's just for

1187
00:52:28,720 --> 00:52:30,640
a weekend when we know there's going to

1188
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,079
be busy traffic you send them out there

1189
00:52:33,079 --> 00:52:35,440
you go watch how people behave when you

1190
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,440
put up a popup roundabout on 11th and

1191
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,960
Forbes and you take away the rightand

1192
00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:43,480
slip lanes and you just see what happens

1193
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,000
for a weekend don't necessarily need

1194
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,559
seea you just treat it as a construction

1195
00:52:48,559 --> 00:52:49,839
same way you would do construction

1196
00:52:49,839 --> 00:52:52,640
project use the California temporary

1197
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:56,079
traffic control handbook and um I'd be

1198
00:52:56,079 --> 00:52:58,760
really excited to do some different

1199
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:00,799
projects like that what's what's what's

1200
00:53:00,799 --> 00:53:03,040
the official term on that is it gorilla

1201
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,720
um gorilla tactical urbanism tactical

1202
00:53:05,720 --> 00:53:08,480
urbanism yes yeah oh that sounds

1203
00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,559
certainly does someone have your contact

1204
00:53:10,559 --> 00:53:12,599
info here yeah so it's at the end of

1205
00:53:12,599 --> 00:53:16,119
this um I'm in some email um things but

1206
00:53:16,119 --> 00:53:17,960
just wait we'll get a hold of you yeah

1207
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:21,319
absolutely thank you I'll I'll give him points right off the bat

1208
00:53:21,319 --> 00:53:22,880
for it's not a typo there that he's

1209
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,480
gotten his first one stro is a real term

1210
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:27,880
which is funny because my nana actually

1211
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:29,319
uh when she was reading this she was

1212
00:53:29,319 --> 00:53:30,760
like do you want me to mark this up I

1213
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,680
see a typo I like Nana it's not a tyo

1214
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:35,200
that's a term and if any of you would

1215
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:36,839
like to know what a stro is I'd be happy

1216
00:53:36,839 --> 00:53:38,359
to

1217
00:53:38,359 --> 00:53:40,559
explain yeah I hope you reach out to me

1218
00:53:40,559 --> 00:53:42,440
for that because I like new words so I

1219
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:43,760
don't know that one and I just want to

1220
00:53:43,760 --> 00:53:46,200
say you know I'm really uh I'm really

1221
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,480
glad I'm excited when you come and then

1222
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:50,040
I like that kind of energy and we love

1223
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,359
to hear from people and I totally

1224
00:53:52,359 --> 00:53:54,520
appreciate Ron you know already giving

1225
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:56,359
you something that you can hook on to if

1226
00:53:56,359 --> 00:53:58,079
that is interests you and you know you

1227
00:53:58,079 --> 00:54:00,480
can always the the context of the City

1228
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:02,160
Council meetings is limited even though

1229
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,359
we're pretty relaxed here but it's

1230
00:54:04,359 --> 00:54:06,040
limited and so you can always reach out

1231
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:08,079
to any one of us individually with your

1232
00:54:08,079 --> 00:54:09,559
ideas with your thoughts things you want

1233
00:54:09,559 --> 00:54:11,680
to talk about at length and you know

1234
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:13,480
City staff is pretty welcoming as well

1235
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:15,319
so thank you for that City staff is

1236
00:54:15,319 --> 00:54:16,839
pretty welcoming thank you yeah yeah

1237
00:54:16,839 --> 00:54:18,240
thank you very much I appreciate that

1238
00:54:18,240 --> 00:54:20,200
even though my energy is a little shaky

1239
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:21,680
I am excited about these things I'm

1240
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,480
excited for positive growth so thank you

1241
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:26,640
guys there's Mr Mayor there's not

1242
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:35,720
anything on this list that isn't in our list I mean no I I recognize that it uh you the the biggest issue there is

1243
00:54:35,720 --> 00:54:38,720
the funding aspect the good news is most

1244
00:54:38,720 --> 00:54:40,559
of these things you know that complete

1245
00:54:40,559 --> 00:54:43,319
Street concept and uh kind of you know

1246
00:54:43,319 --> 00:54:46,520
kind of um some of those aspects of a

1247
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:50,559
Strode um you kind of defining a street

1248
00:54:50,559 --> 00:54:53,280
being something that you use regularly

1249
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:55,079
for multiple different activities

1250
00:54:55,079 --> 00:54:57,240
walking to the park bicycling doing that

1251
00:54:57,240 --> 00:54:58,760
and a road being more kind of like how

1252
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:01,680
you picture a highway um and a Strode is

1253
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,559
kind of When You observe a roadway that

1254
00:55:04,559 --> 00:55:06,359
seems to be having an identity crisis

1255
00:55:06,359 --> 00:55:10,359
between the two um which you can observe

1256
00:55:10,359 --> 00:55:12,960
once you once you start to see you can

1257
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:14,799
completely observe and as I'm sure the

1258
00:55:14,799 --> 00:55:17,040
Epiphany that that Mr wi just already

1259
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:18,680
had you know knowing that that used to

1260
00:55:18,680 --> 00:55:20,319
be the highway before it becomes very

1261
00:55:20,319 --> 00:55:22,760
clear that a good portion of the roads

1262
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:24,839
in throughout Lakeport are strods and

1263
00:55:24,839 --> 00:55:26,319
they they're in a bit of an identity

1264
00:55:26,319 --> 00:55:31,640
crisis um The Hot Scotch of a sidewalk

1265
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:33,720
segment here and there is something that

1266
00:55:33,720 --> 00:55:36,680
we all you know bang our heads against

1267
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,799
on a regular basis um so I mean but

1268
00:55:39,799 --> 00:55:41,799
going back the good news is a lot of the

1269
00:55:41,799 --> 00:55:43,240
funding aspects that are available

1270
00:55:43,240 --> 00:55:46,000
through calr and other things have

1271
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:49,559
complete streets Concepts at their heart

1272
00:55:49,559 --> 00:55:51,799
and uh that really is uh what we're

1273
00:55:51,799 --> 00:55:54,000
trying to accomplish with this initial

1274
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:55,480
planning stage project is to get

1275
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:57,559
ourselves positioned to take advantage

1276
00:55:57,559 --> 00:55:59,680
of some of those do more projects like

1277
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:00,960
what we did complete up there on

1278
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:02,920
heartley and stuff and so a lot of these

1279
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:06,359
are are exactly where we're trying where

1280
00:56:06,359 --> 00:56:08,079
we're trying to

1281
00:56:08,079 --> 00:56:11,000
go and some of them we are I would say

1282
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:15,319
we're making um good progress on um

1283
00:56:15,319 --> 00:56:19,319
specifically 11th Street um Main Street

1284
00:56:19,319 --> 00:56:21,799
and Lakeport Boulevard in some of those

1285
00:56:21,799 --> 00:56:23,839
projects that are coming forward we do

1286
00:56:23,839 --> 00:56:26,839
have enhanced uh lighted Crossings uh

1287
00:56:26,839 --> 00:56:29,599
propos to those those aren't full fixes

1288
00:56:29,599 --> 00:56:32,480
I mean as as uh Danny shows in here I

1289
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:35,960
mean that's just one aspect of it um you

1290
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,280
know the Ada curb ramps to serve it

1291
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:40,559
bicycle LS you know connected bicycle

1292
00:56:40,559 --> 00:56:42,400
lenses connective sidewalks all come up

1293
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:44,319
to pieces of it too so we're aware of

1294
00:56:44,319 --> 00:56:46,599
those of those aspects but we're we're

1295
00:56:46,599 --> 00:56:49,640
trying to kind of eat that elephant one

1296
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:51,799
bite at a

1297
00:56:51,799 --> 00:56:54,359
time right thank you Kevin uh we're

1298
00:56:54,359 --> 00:56:56,520
still in public comment is there anybody

1299
00:56:56,520 --> 00:56:58,559
in the public that would still hasn't

1300
00:56:58,559 --> 00:56:59,680
spoke

1301
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,079
tonight not seeing anybody here in the

1302
00:57:02,079 --> 00:57:04,200
room Nick do we have anybody online

1303
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:06,240
seeing No Hands raised online right

1304
00:57:06,240 --> 00:57:08,280
thank you want to bring this back to

1305
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,319
council I believe this was this an

1306
00:57:10,319 --> 00:57:13,000
action item reing this a receiving file

1307
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:14,559
if there's any other action that you

1308
00:57:14,559 --> 00:57:17,640
want in regards to um the one

1309
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,039
way um you know piece

1310
00:57:20,039 --> 00:57:22,520
I'm secure

1311
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:25,280
grants that's what I would recommend uh

1312
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:26,839
we and we do have some of the framework

1313
00:57:26,839 --> 00:57:28,599
in place for that I mean that was one of

1314
00:57:28,599 --> 00:57:30,520
the purposes of that 11th Street

1315
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:32,480
Corridor study which this area is

1316
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:36,520
certainly a part of um but uh yeah

1317
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:38,520
unfortunately I don't have a readily

1318
00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:41,440
available Quick Fix somebody should go

1319
00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:44,000
undercover and find that black pickup

1320
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:47,920
truck just who the heck is that yes yes

1321
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:50,720
very much so F any wrong way

1322
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:55,119
driving Mr Mayor may I yes um I just

1323
00:57:55,119 --> 00:57:58,000
wanted to add that um even if our roads

1324
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:02,760
were perfect I am with Ruby with just a

1325
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:05,480
frustration with some of the drivers um

1326
00:58:05,480 --> 00:58:08,680
I've never seen so many drivers Behaving

1327
00:58:08,680 --> 00:58:12,480
Badly even one of one of my co-workers

1328
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:15,160
we went to lunch and I said did you just

1329
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:18,200
do a u-turn on Main Street and she goes

1330
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:20,640
yeah there was a parking spot over there

1331
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:24,400
it was easy and I said and illegal like

1332
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:27,920
what do doing but I see that constantly

1333
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,200
and um we could make everything perfect

1334
00:58:30,200 --> 00:58:32,760
but we still seem to have these drivers

1335
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:34,400
that are doing whatever it's getting

1336
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:36,359
worse same thing with pedestrians

1337
00:58:36,359 --> 00:58:38,520
they're either not using their crosswalk

1338
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:40,520
or they're not pushing the button for

1339
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:43,119
the light and for the kids for this

1340
00:58:43,119 --> 00:58:48,440
summer it would be nice if maybe we'll be able to coordinate something

1341
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:50,680
with one of our groups to do an

1342
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:52,839
education piece for the kids in the park

1343
00:58:52,839 --> 00:58:55,960
maybe um bribe them to come with some

1344
00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:58,880
prizes and teach them how you know

1345
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:01,680
remind them how to use the streets and

1346
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:04,920
the sidewalks safely to walk and

1347
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,760
bike great thank

1348
00:59:07,760 --> 00:59:10,920
you anybody else well well make the last

1349
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:13,599
comment about the streets in the city of

1350
00:59:13,599 --> 00:59:16,400
Lakeport um I'd like to remind everybody

1351
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:19,440
that we have a lake on the east side of

1352
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:25,359
us we have a highway that came later and cut off our city in a very strange

1353
00:59:25,359 --> 00:59:31,119
way we have Hills and we are stuck with

1354
00:59:31,119 --> 00:59:33,559
uh an infrastructure that was handed to

1355
00:59:33,559 --> 00:59:36,039
us and all we can do at a time like this

1356
00:59:36,039 --> 00:59:38,440
is try to mitigate the troubles that we

1357
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:40,720
continue to have the best that we can

1358
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:43,079
and and uh and we continue to try to do

1359
00:59:43,079 --> 00:59:46,920
that so um yep and we and we will yeah

1360
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:48,079
how many times a year do you bring this

1361
00:59:48,079 --> 00:59:50,039
to us Kevin we've been bringing it twice

1362
00:59:50,039 --> 00:59:52,119
a year um I mean and speaking to that

1363
00:59:52,119 --> 00:59:55,160
point I mean we do have um

1364
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:58,200
on our agenda planning calendar that I U

1365
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:00,160
bringing because we if you recall we did

1366
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:03,240
suspend tsac Traffic Safety advisory

1367
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:05,960
Council and then uh the parks and recck

1368
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:08,799
commission um a few years ago because of

1369
01:00:08,799 --> 01:00:11,599
Staffing uh you related areas and you

1370
01:00:11,599 --> 01:00:14,200
know focusing on the park and some of

1371
01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,440
these other projects I mean so we do

1372
01:00:16,440 --> 01:00:19,160
have it on our near-term agenda to bring

1373
01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:21,319
that topic back to you guys to consider

1374
01:00:21,319 --> 01:00:24,039
how you want uh to move forward with

1375
01:00:24,039 --> 01:00:26,559
that I mean one idea would be to combine

1376
01:00:26,559 --> 01:00:27,799
both or you could have separate

1377
01:00:27,799 --> 01:00:29,799
committees or we can continue

1378
01:00:29,799 --> 01:00:32,319
functioning in in this direction where

1379
01:00:32,319 --> 01:00:33,920
we're bringing these items to you kind

1380
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:35,680
of on a biannual

1381
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:38,359
basis regardless I think the most

1382
01:00:38,359 --> 01:00:40,839
constructive thing that we've done is

1383
01:00:40,839 --> 01:00:43,960
quarterly review these We Gather these

1384
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:45,839
Traffic Safety related complaints a more

1385
01:00:45,839 --> 01:00:47,599
formal aspect and then we review them

1386
01:00:47,599 --> 01:00:49,680
for Trends and I mean I think that's

1387
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:53,119
been very assistive to helping us direct

1388
01:00:53,119 --> 01:00:54,960
the limited resources that we do have to

1389
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:56,720
make sure that we are getting the most

1390
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:58,720
out of uh you that we're actually

1391
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:01,440
hitting the the areas in the in a

1392
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:04,240
strategic fashion great thank you Kevin

1393
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:06,839
and thank you Ron as uh council member

1394
01:01:06,839 --> 01:01:08,960
Costa pointed out we appreciate the

1395
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:10,599
history that you tried to bring there

1396
01:01:10,599 --> 01:01:14,160
for us that intersection uh High Street

1397
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:18,039
has a high Street has a it's like a drag

1398
01:01:18,039 --> 01:01:20,079
strip and and the houses on each end of

1399
01:01:20,079 --> 01:01:23,520
it seem to get hit by cars so U I'm sure

1400
01:01:23,520 --> 01:01:25,520
that doesn't go into the traffic safety

1401
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:28,280
data there but but uh it continues to be

1402
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:33,160
a problem moving on uh item Six

1403
01:01:33,160 --> 01:01:36,039
B uh Communications update receive an

1404
01:01:36,039 --> 01:01:39,880
update uh on the 2023 communication team

1405
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:42,839
activity would that be it's gonna be me

1406
01:01:42,839 --> 01:01:47,079
this evening Kelly is um on in route or

1407
01:01:47,079 --> 01:01:49,119
just newly got there she's attending uh

1408
01:01:49,119 --> 01:01:50,920
the risk management conference uh this

1409
01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:54,000
week um so I will give just a quick

1410
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:56,400
update this is really just a quick kind

1411
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:59,359
of annual um update if you recall a few

1412
01:01:59,359 --> 01:02:02,160
years back we we did put together a more

1413
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:03,839
uh concerted effort very similar to the

1414
01:02:03,839 --> 01:02:06,480
traffic safety related aspect where um

1415
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:08,799
key staff is getting together on a

1416
01:02:08,799 --> 01:02:10,880
monthly basis and reviewing what

1417
01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:12,599
projects what aspects what things are

1418
01:02:12,599 --> 01:02:14,839
going on and kind of developing a

1419
01:02:14,839 --> 01:02:16,960
communication strategy from there to try

1420
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:19,559
and kind of uh put our efforts together

1421
01:02:19,559 --> 01:02:23,160
um I think we have done really well um

1422
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:25,400
in getting that information out but I

1423
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:27,359
will also say that we're probably at the

1424
01:02:27,359 --> 01:02:30,079
maximum of what we can do under that

1425
01:02:30,079 --> 01:02:32,520
system uh so I bring this back to kind

1426
01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:34,359
of you know just kind of do a check-in

1427
01:02:34,359 --> 01:02:37,680
with your council is the communication

1428
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:39,440
um kind of aspects that are coming out

1429
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:42,279
of the city uh meeting uh the goals of

1430
01:02:42,279 --> 01:02:45,880
the community and your Council um if if

1431
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:48,240
it's something that um either we feel

1432
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:49,880
that it's not or we would like to take

1433
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:51,720
it to the next level my my

1434
01:02:51,720 --> 01:02:53,599
recommendation is that that be something

1435
01:02:53,599 --> 01:02:56,880
that we do look at at and consider um at

1436
01:02:56,880 --> 01:03:00,559
a budget time that um you we do not have

1437
01:03:00,559 --> 01:03:04,400
a a staff person that is specifically

1438
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:07,000
dedicated to Communications that doesn't

1439
01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:08,319
necessarily mean that it has to be a

1440
01:03:08,319 --> 01:03:10,440
full-time position it could be something

1441
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:12,000
that we consult out we've seen some of

1442
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:14,480
our neighboring cities um you recently

1443
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:17,160
Embark in more you know kind of a a PR

1444
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:19,599
consultant thing to kind of help bolster

1445
01:03:19,599 --> 01:03:22,119
their communication efforts um so this

1446
01:03:22,119 --> 01:03:24,760
is really just sort of a check-in um we

1447
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:26,440
get together monthly we review the

1448
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:28,920
projects that we have we kind of take

1449
01:03:28,920 --> 01:03:31,240
toll of what's out there uh kind of do

1450
01:03:31,240 --> 01:03:33,760
some rumor control and make sure that um

1451
01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:35,240
if there's something that we're missing

1452
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:36,559
in the communication pattern we try and

1453
01:03:36,559 --> 01:03:39,200
get something out um you know Brad does

1454
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:41,400
an excellent job with his side on a more

1455
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:43,960
regular basis uh getting information out

1456
01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:45,760
it's also uh the same folks that are

1457
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:48,960
involved in any emergency related items

1458
01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:50,480
and a lot of the stuff that we do is

1459
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:52,599
just kind of capturing what's already

1460
01:03:52,599 --> 01:03:54,039
going on in the community and sharing

1461
01:03:54,039 --> 01:03:57,240
that information so you know I would say

1462
01:03:57,240 --> 01:04:00,039
you know probably 50% of it's our own

1463
01:04:00,039 --> 01:04:04,960
content um it's using everbridge

1464
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:07,880
formerly nixel it's using you know the

1465
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:11,200
city social media Pages it's using um

1466
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:14,160
our web page it's all across the board

1467
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:16,640
um and so we try and each everybody's

1468
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:18,240
kind of responsible for a little area so

1469
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:19,559
getting together once a month has been

1470
01:04:19,559 --> 01:04:21,880
immensely helpful to coordinating that

1471
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:23,440
effort and make Shing that that

1472
01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:25,640
information is out in the the most

1473
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:27,359
coordinated way fashion I'm just saying

1474
01:04:27,359 --> 01:04:29,640
that if we want to take it to the next

1475
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:31,920
step we've probably maximized what we

1476
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:34,799
can do um with the staff that we have

1477
01:04:34,799 --> 01:04:37,640
because those folks have other duties

1478
01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:39,000
and so you know there's only so much

1479
01:04:39,000 --> 01:04:40,279
they can throw at the these

1480
01:04:40,279 --> 01:04:41,760
communication pieces so it's really just

1481
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:44,960
a check-in but um also if it's something

1482
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:46,559
that we think we need to enhance or take

1483
01:04:46,559 --> 01:04:48,520
to the next level then we'll definitely

1484
01:04:48,520 --> 01:04:50,359
want to give some consideration to it as

1485
01:04:50,359 --> 01:04:52,720
we move forward into our goals planning

1486
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:57,549
session for fiscal year

1487
01:04:57,559 --> 01:05:00,680
2425 thank you Kevin I don't see

1488
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:02,960
questions from Council how many staff

1489
01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:06,039
hours would you estimate goes into this

1490
01:05:06,039 --> 01:05:09,480
work weekly or monthly I I don't know

1491
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:11,599
that we've we've fully Quantified that I

1492
01:05:11,599 --> 01:05:13,079
mean I think there's certain folks that

1493
01:05:13,079 --> 01:05:17,039
do more uh Brad um Andrew Brittain and

1494
01:05:17,039 --> 01:05:19,119
our public works department who also you

1495
01:05:19,119 --> 01:05:21,000
know wears a separate hat of you know

1496
01:05:21,000 --> 01:05:23,359
managing the city's um you know social

1497
01:05:23,359 --> 01:05:25,760
media Pages as well Hillary on the

1498
01:05:25,760 --> 01:05:29,359
website uh side and then wilda um shock

1499
01:05:29,359 --> 01:05:30,920
on our economic development side getting

1500
01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:33,160
it out to some of our you know other key

1501
01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:36,559
pieces all kind of uh you do that on a

1502
01:05:36,559 --> 01:05:38,480
more consistent basis and then you have

1503
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:40,319
other folks you know mostly department

1504
01:05:40,319 --> 01:05:43,079
heads um myself who are you know putting

1505
01:05:43,079 --> 01:05:44,799
some other content and messaging

1506
01:05:44,799 --> 01:05:47,480
together on um you know a less frequent

1507
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:49,359
basis so it's it's hard to

1508
01:05:49,359 --> 01:05:51,599
quantify um but that's but that's sort

1509
01:05:51,599 --> 01:05:54,039
of the problem is it's so diffuse across

1510
01:05:54,039 --> 01:05:56,520
Ross the entire city organization right

1511
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:59,279
now that there's not one person really

1512
01:05:59,279 --> 01:06:01,200
uh you know responsible for the overall

1513
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:03,039
content of it just seems like if we

1514
01:06:03,039 --> 01:06:04,960
wanted to consider how

1515
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:08,520
to staff that other than the way it is

1516
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:11,079
now we're going to need to kind of get a

1517
01:06:11,079 --> 01:06:15,039
starting point right yeah I mean I mean

1518
01:06:15,039 --> 01:06:16,440
I think there are there are a couple of

1519
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:18,160
different ways you could do it one you

1520
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:19,880
know that Communications team can still

1521
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:21,960
continue to operate and can probably

1522
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:24,520
identify one or two things each month

1523
01:06:24,520 --> 01:06:28,079
that maybe goes out to you know a PR

1524
01:06:28,079 --> 01:06:30,440
firm or something to develop a higher

1525
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:33,520
level content um you know we could

1526
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:36,599
consider you know a summer internship or

1527
01:06:36,599 --> 01:06:38,440
something like that and just see what

1528
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:40,400
kind of process or what kind of product

1529
01:06:40,400 --> 01:06:43,000
we can get out of that and if that's you

1530
01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:45,200
know if that's a worth it you know

1531
01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:46,640
you're talking 20 hours a week and kind

1532
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:47,839
of gauge from there so I mean there's a

1533
01:06:47,839 --> 01:06:49,799
couple different directions we can go

1534
01:06:49,799 --> 01:06:51,520
and we can do a little better job at

1535
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:53,000
trying to quantify the hours that are in

1536
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:55,039
there

1537
01:06:55,039 --> 01:06:58,359
thank you what about if I may um besides

1538
01:06:58,359 --> 01:07:00,559
just staff hours what's the the feeling

1539
01:07:00,559 --> 01:07:03,039
amongst the staff is it a big drag on

1540
01:07:03,039 --> 01:07:05,160
staff to to be putting together posts

1541
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:10,880
and and Outreach whether it's nixel or you know the new platform how how is

1542
01:07:10,880 --> 01:07:12,240
it going

1543
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:15,400
staff-wise I I think it it it probably

1544
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:17,720
depends it's both it's you know I think

1545
01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:18,920
sometimes it's really exciting

1546
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:20,200
especially when you're working on things

1547
01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:21,640
like the park and you're you putting

1548
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:24,000
things like on that out but other

1549
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:25,240
efforts I think we've all kind of shared

1550
01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:27,279
grumbles that you know man you know 20

1551
01:07:27,279 --> 01:07:29,079
or 30 years ago this was easy you just

1552
01:07:29,079 --> 01:07:32,520
sent one press release to the record B

1553
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:34,799
and boom you were done now we're we're

1554
01:07:34,799 --> 01:07:37,079
having to match content across several

1555
01:07:37,079 --> 01:07:38,960
different and this isn't just us this is

1556
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:41,160
a this is an issue that every City's

1557
01:07:41,160 --> 01:07:43,240
dealing with it's what every marketer

1558
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:44,839
dealing with so yeah there is there's a

1559
01:07:44,839 --> 01:07:47,880
little bit of a kind of a a

1560
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:52,799
burden to that but going outside for a

1561
01:07:52,799 --> 01:07:55,319
another firm or or hiring somebody to

1562
01:07:55,319 --> 01:07:58,960
handle all of uh the Outreach would that

1563
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:02,079
alleviate department heads and and Chief

1564
01:08:02,079 --> 01:08:04,799
and everybody's staff a big weight off

1565
01:08:04,799 --> 01:08:06,200
your shoulders or is it like yeah I just

1566
01:08:06,200 --> 01:08:07,680
do a little bit here and there and we

1567
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:10,000
all kind of chip in to get it done no I

1568
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:12,880
think the the the easy answer to that is

1569
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:14,760
yes it it it would take a large burden

1570
01:08:14,760 --> 01:08:16,000
and then you would be freeing up

1571
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:17,400
people's time to go other ways but I

1572
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:19,600
think the problem becomes how do you

1573
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:21,199
balance that against some of the other

1574
01:08:21,199 --> 01:08:24,040
priorities that your Council has because

1575
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:26,319
you know we we've got a limited limited

1576
01:08:26,319 --> 01:08:28,159
number of resources we have I mean if

1577
01:08:28,159 --> 01:08:31,159
this is working I um and we are getting

1578
01:08:31,159 --> 01:08:33,799
our message out in a consistent and

1579
01:08:33,799 --> 01:08:36,600
positive fashion then I think we're all

1580
01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:38,880
committed to continuing to do that I

1581
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:40,480
just think if if the thought is that

1582
01:08:40,480 --> 01:08:42,520
it's not or we want something higher

1583
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:43,560
then it's something we're going to have

1584
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:45,520
to consider that that kind of is going

1585
01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:48,960
to require a bit more of a kind of a a

1586
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:52,159
capacity change um from what we're doing

1587
01:08:52,159 --> 01:08:53,560
but yeah you're going to have to balance

1588
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:54,440
that

1589
01:08:54,440 --> 01:08:58,000
against um your other priorities yeah

1590
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:00,040
thank

1591
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:02,719
you did the department heads still have

1592
01:09:02,719 --> 01:09:04,759
to put out

1593
01:09:04,759 --> 01:09:07,839
the content in the press release to

1594
01:09:07,839 --> 01:09:09,679
someone else that's going to now put it

1595
01:09:09,679 --> 01:09:12,520
on social media yeah yeah I mean we all

1596
01:09:12,520 --> 01:09:14,319
develop our own content for the most

1597
01:09:14,319 --> 01:09:16,400
part so you're you're you're not taking

1598
01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:18,239
100% of the work off of the department

1599
01:09:18,239 --> 01:09:20,880
heads oh oh I see what you're saying um

1600
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:22,759
well I mean a lot of it a lot of it does

1601
01:09:22,759 --> 01:09:24,319
come I mean you know

1602
01:09:24,319 --> 01:09:25,920
it comes directly from a staff report I

1603
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:28,560
mean it's not like it's it's something

1604
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:31,839
that's completely beyond what we're

1605
01:09:31,839 --> 01:09:34,199
already doing it's just trying to it's

1606
01:09:34,199 --> 01:09:37,400
another step in the process um but it's

1607
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:40,239
not something that necessarily you're

1608
01:09:40,239 --> 01:09:44,239
doing on a you you know from scratch I

1609
01:09:44,239 --> 01:09:45,640
mean a lot of like for instance when we

1610
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:47,440
were doing a lot of the park stuff we

1611
01:09:47,440 --> 01:09:49,400
were out there taking pictures of that

1612
01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:51,440
stuff anyways we were writing reports

1613
01:09:51,440 --> 01:09:54,080
anyways so it wasn't but it wasn't extra

1614
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:55,880
step a different deviation to make sure

1615
01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:57,880
that we were getting that message out to

1616
01:09:57,880 --> 01:10:01,800
the public okay thank you if I just one

1617
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:04,440
thing it it seems to me that you made a

1618
01:10:04,440 --> 01:10:06,640
Quantum Leap here from you know the

1619
01:10:06,640 --> 01:10:10,640
Outreach in 22 to 23 and um as you

1620
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:12,080
mentioned you know then you start

1621
01:10:12,080 --> 01:10:14,040
talking about cost benefit ratio and you

1622
01:10:14,040 --> 01:10:15,640
know what what and taking away from

1623
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:17,440
other things that we need to do it looks

1624
01:10:17,440 --> 01:10:20,120
like you made a great leap in What's

1625
01:10:20,120 --> 01:10:22,159
Done and the chief was always talking

1626
01:10:22,159 --> 01:10:24,800
about his site I mean I don't see if it

1627
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:26,640
ain't broke don't fix it kind of thing I

1628
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:28,800
think we're in a good place and until we

1629
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:32,159
get like you know influx of huge amounts

1630
01:10:32,159 --> 01:10:34,560
of of Revenue I I think you're doing a

1631
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:36,600
great job with what you have and I and I

1632
01:10:36,600 --> 01:10:38,199
like the status quo I guess one thing I

1633
01:10:38,199 --> 01:10:39,920
did fail to mention the big elephant is

1634
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:42,400
the room is some of our biggest players

1635
01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:46,040
Brad and Andrew are both retiring um

1636
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:47,719
here in the near future so I mean it

1637
01:10:47,719 --> 01:10:48,960
should have left that

1638
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:51,719
up should I led with that

1639
01:10:51,719 --> 01:10:54,920
one no but I mean I the model is there

1640
01:10:54,920 --> 01:11:00,040
they they've certainly have left us in in a position uh you know to to pick

1641
01:11:00,040 --> 01:11:03,600
those pieces up but there's going to be changes on on how

1642
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:05,480
that's going to go and and I think some

1643
01:11:05,480 --> 01:11:06,760
of that is you know are you going to

1644
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:09,440
expect a new Chief or a new compliance

1645
01:11:09,440 --> 01:11:11,360
officer to to handle this so I mean

1646
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:12,520
there's going to be balancing effort

1647
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:13,640
that we're going to have to do on our

1648
01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:17,440
side but the model is working it's just

1649
01:11:17,440 --> 01:11:19,560
I I just want to be honest that I don't

1650
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:24,000
know how much more it can go um at its

1651
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:26,480
current rate I mean it can it can stay

1652
01:11:26,480 --> 01:11:28,440
level but I don't know if we can we can

1653
01:11:28,440 --> 01:11:30,679
jump to that next level but if if that's

1654
01:11:30,679 --> 01:11:32,640
not warranted at this time we can keep

1655
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:34,840
doing this and we'll keep visiting it

1656
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:36,520
you know annually and seeing if it's not

1657
01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:38,360
working we can look at different

1658
01:11:38,360 --> 01:11:40,960
directions thank I love that idea though

1659
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:42,840
if if you you threw out one creative

1660
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:45,239
idea like a an internship kind of a

1661
01:11:45,239 --> 01:11:46,679
position so I don't know if you're ready

1662
01:11:46,679 --> 01:11:48,360
to start thinking about those things now

1663
01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:49,880
or is that part of our next

1664
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:52,800
conversations about it but that type

1665
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:54,719
thing might be

1666
01:11:54,719 --> 01:11:56,480
worth at least figuring out is there a

1667
01:11:56,480 --> 01:11:59,159
place for this because that would not be

1668
01:11:59,159 --> 01:12:02,440
a big investment in from the

1669
01:12:02,440 --> 01:12:05,360
budget I and I also would be remiss to

1670
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:07,719
say that I think the demands for more

1671
01:12:07,719 --> 01:12:10,199
communication is just going to increase

1672
01:12:10,199 --> 01:12:11,639
and and that's okay I mean that's what

1673
01:12:11,639 --> 01:12:13,840
we're in the business of doing is being

1674
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:16,400
transparent and we we perform public

1675
01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:17,800
services and it's very important that

1676
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:19,239
the public understand what it is that

1677
01:12:19,239 --> 01:12:20,840
we're doing and be informed by it so I

1678
01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:23,600
mean it's a natural it's a natural piece

1679
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:25,719
of the local government setting but it

1680
01:12:25,719 --> 01:12:27,960
is constantly changing and I do see that

1681
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:32,709
demand

1682
01:12:32,719 --> 01:12:34,840
increasing let's open it up to the

1683
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:36,360
public are there any questions from the

1684
01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:39,159
public or comments

1685
01:12:39,159 --> 01:12:42,840
yeah not hearing any in the room Nick do

1686
01:12:42,840 --> 01:12:44,360
we have anybody online with their hands

1687
01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:46,480
raised No Hands raised online great

1688
01:12:46,480 --> 01:12:48,320
thank you bring it back to

1689
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:53,000
council Mr Mayor receiveing file go ahead well I was just

1690
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:56,440
gonna no make some comments um

1691
01:12:56,440 --> 01:13:00,760
go I think we have just been so lucky to

1692
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:04,480
have um the amount of post postings and

1693
01:13:04,480 --> 01:13:07,239
information going out with the staff

1694
01:13:07,239 --> 01:13:08,760
that we have you know we just are really

1695
01:13:08,760 --> 01:13:11,120
lucky to have them and Chief and

1696
01:13:11,120 --> 01:13:13,000
hopefully he's training some other

1697
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:14,960
people to take over for him because yeah

1698
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:16,639
I do think that'll be our biggest

1699
01:13:16,639 --> 01:13:20,000
challenge and Andrew does they both done

1700
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:25,040
such a great job um so thank you

1701
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:29,400
um and then ultimately you know it'd be

1702
01:13:29,400 --> 01:13:31,760
great to have a PR firm and you know

1703
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:33,480
kind of really come up with the identity

1704
01:13:33,480 --> 01:13:35,520
of the city and a whole marketing plan

1705
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:40,159
for the city and uh PR department and a

1706
01:13:40,159 --> 01:13:43,159
parks and rec department and we can

1707
01:13:43,159 --> 01:13:45,960
dream right wrong but for now we're

1708
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:48,760
doing great

1709
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:52,639
yeah yeah the the want list is long yeah

1710
01:13:52,639 --> 01:13:55,239
thank you

1711
01:13:55,239 --> 01:13:57,280
all right that was a receiveing file

1712
01:13:57,280 --> 01:14:01,679
moving on to uh 6C Public Works director

1713
01:14:01,679 --> 01:14:03,440
we've got uh receive an update on the

1714
01:14:03,440 --> 01:14:05,000
Forbes Creek headwall and heartley

1715
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:09,870
Street Culvert uh environmental report

1716
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:13,719
projects thank you mayor freyo council

1717
01:14:13,719 --> 01:14:17,639
I'm really excited to give this

1718
01:14:17,639 --> 01:14:20,520
information this is the fascinating

1719
01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:24,120
topic of the dynamic nature of Federal

1720
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:25,560
funding and the

1721
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:29,120
inevitable contract amendments that go

1722
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:33,719
hand inand with Federal funding

1723
01:14:33,719 --> 01:14:37,280
so I feel like I gave at least 30% of

1724
01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:40,080
this update at the special meeting

1725
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:43,520
for the disaster declaration so I will

1726
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:47,120
try not to be redundant and and be more

1727
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:48,360
specific

1728
01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:52,840
on the nature of federal funding when

1729
01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:55,840
it's a associated with a road is the

1730
01:14:55,840 --> 01:14:57,600
funding

1731
01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:01,239
originates at the US do Federal Highway

1732
01:15:01,239 --> 01:15:02,920
and it's passed to

1733
01:15:02,920 --> 01:15:04,960
calr

1734
01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:08,199
and the federal agency passes the

1735
01:15:08,199 --> 01:15:10,960
federal requirements to Caltrans and

1736
01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:14,800
Caltrans polices us basically to ensure

1737
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:16,920
that we stay in compliance with the

1738
01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:20,120
federal requirements of the federal

1739
01:15:20,120 --> 01:15:25,080
money so the first problem that we

1740
01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:29,480
encountered on this project was we do

1741
01:15:29,480 --> 01:15:35,360
not have staff sufficient staff to meet

1742
01:15:35,360 --> 01:15:37,719
the federal requirements so we hire a

1743
01:15:37,719 --> 01:15:41,280
consultant who is an expert in complying

1744
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:43,239
with the

1745
01:15:43,239 --> 01:15:46,600
onerous requirements dictated To Us by

1746
01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:47,440
the

1747
01:15:47,440 --> 01:15:49,760
feds

1748
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:53,400
and we couldn't find a consultant that

1749
01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:56,920
was interested in bidding on these

1750
01:15:56,920 --> 01:15:59,239
projects because in the public works

1751
01:15:59,239 --> 01:16:01,040
world they're

1752
01:16:01,040 --> 01:16:03,800
relatively small

1753
01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:06,719
items um big projects to us but small

1754
01:16:06,719 --> 01:16:08,600
they're huge projects to us but in the

1755
01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:10,000
public works

1756
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:12,560
World Statewide they're they're they're

1757
01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:16,280
relatively small contracts so we had an

1758
01:16:16,280 --> 01:16:19,719
incredibly difficult time

1759
01:16:19,719 --> 01:16:23,639
selecting or getting a bid one bid we

1760
01:16:23,639 --> 01:16:27,320
finally got one bid

1761
01:16:27,320 --> 01:16:32,159
which we can award to a soul bidder but

1762
01:16:32,159 --> 01:16:35,400
since we only got one it opened a whole

1763
01:16:35,400 --> 01:16:38,400
another Pandora's Box that we had to

1764
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:40,840
fulfill and prove that we had done our

1765
01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:43,960
due diligence in publicly advertising

1766
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:46,159
this and that we had checked all the

1767
01:16:46,159 --> 01:16:48,639
boxes so that we could then be

1768
01:16:48,639 --> 01:16:51,360
reimbursed for this consultant's time if

1769
01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:53,560
we skip a step we would would lose the

1770
01:16:53,560 --> 01:16:56,360
funding for reimbursement for this

1771
01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:59,440
consultant the consultant takes a look

1772
01:16:59,440 --> 01:17:02,920
at the project and works closely with

1773
01:17:02,920 --> 01:17:05,280
staff to get a conceptual idea of what

1774
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:08,760
the design will be for these two

1775
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:11,199
projects and they take that information

1776
01:17:11,199 --> 01:17:13,800
and they do their best to provide a

1777
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:16,679
scope that they feel would cover the

1778
01:17:16,679 --> 01:17:19,880
entire project so a as we go through

1779
01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:22,560
that process and you can only do one

1780
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:26,120
thing at a time the first step is the

1781
01:17:26,120 --> 01:17:28,600
environmental and it requires squa and

1782
01:17:28,600 --> 01:17:31,199
NEPA which

1783
01:17:31,199 --> 01:17:35,080
are it's a tough Hill to climb to meet

1784
01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:38,719
everything they ask to have a successful

1785
01:17:38,719 --> 01:17:40,560
environmental document when you're

1786
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:46,430
dealing with NEPA so as we go through

1787
01:17:46,440 --> 01:17:49,960
this the consultant

1788
01:17:49,960 --> 01:17:52,800
compiles the environmental reports that

1789
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:55,520
they feel would be required for an

1790
01:17:55,520 --> 01:17:57,159
approval of the environmental document

1791
01:17:57,159 --> 01:17:59,800
and they submit those out to several

1792
01:17:59,800 --> 01:18:04,040
agencies um California fishing game the

1793
01:18:04,040 --> 01:18:06,960
water board Army Corps of Engineers uh

1794
01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:10,639
whoever is on the list through the

1795
01:18:10,639 --> 01:18:13,000
consultant's experience and expertise

1796
01:18:13,000 --> 01:18:15,560
that this would get distributed out to

1797
01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:18,639
each one of them each one of these

1798
01:18:18,639 --> 01:18:21,920
agencies on their own time

1799
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:24,950
schedule

1800
01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:28,199
reviews the documents and they may be

1801
01:18:28,199 --> 01:18:29,520
happy with the reports that are

1802
01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:32,400
submitted but often they require

1803
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:33,600
additional

1804
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:37,120
reports that the consultant may or may

1805
01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:39,199
not agree with it was necessary but

1806
01:18:39,199 --> 01:18:41,600
nevertheless now we have to produce it

1807
01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:43,800
the additional report would then be

1808
01:18:43,800 --> 01:18:46,639
outside the scope of the original

1809
01:18:46,639 --> 01:18:49,760
contract that we have with them and

1810
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:52,480
that's how we get into an amendment I

1811
01:18:52,480 --> 01:18:55,760
would also o like to point out that

1812
01:18:55,760 --> 01:19:00,199
often the review by each one of these

1813
01:19:00,199 --> 01:19:02,760
agencies takes so

1814
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:06,320
long that the regulations have changed

1815
01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:09,560
by the time we've submitted it until the

1816
01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:12,560
time they've reviewed it and that can

1817
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:14,880
also create the

1818
01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:17,800
scenario to require an additional report

1819
01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:20,880
which would require a contract Amendment

1820
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:25,120
now there are avenues for us to then

1821
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:29,080
reapply for additional funds to Caltrans

1822
01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:32,080
that will then submit it back up to the

1823
01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:34,920
feds so there is an Avenue for us to

1824
01:19:34,920 --> 01:19:38,679
recover the funds for these amendments

1825
01:19:38,679 --> 01:19:42,040
but that also takes an incredible amount

1826
01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:44,880
of paperwork and time for the state

1827
01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:47,480
first to review it on their own schedule

1828
01:19:47,480 --> 01:19:50,000
and subsequently the Fed

1829
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:54,159
so this is the reason that that Forbes

1830
01:19:54,159 --> 01:19:59,080
Creek and Harley are taking so long and

1831
01:19:59,080 --> 01:20:01,840
we have applied for the additional

1832
01:20:01,840 --> 01:20:04,800
funding on the Amendments that are

1833
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:08,199
listed in the staff report but as this

1834
01:20:08,199 --> 01:20:10,960
goes on and we get these I don't know

1835
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:12,520
that they're small amendments they're

1836
01:20:12,520 --> 01:20:14,639
not huge amendments but they start to

1837
01:20:14,639 --> 01:20:18,239
build up and what we cannot apply for

1838
01:20:18,239 --> 01:20:21,639
and what is not budgeted for is every

1839
01:20:21,639 --> 01:20:23,080
time there's an amendment there an

1840
01:20:23,080 --> 01:20:25,239
additional

1841
01:20:25,239 --> 01:20:30,679
11.47% match that the city is then on

1842
01:20:30,679 --> 01:20:34,239
the hook for and so as these were going

1843
01:20:34,239 --> 01:20:37,440
along and and Kevin and Nick and I work

1844
01:20:37,440 --> 01:20:39,840
together close on these uh and figure

1845
01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:41,199
out how we're going to get them paid for

1846
01:20:41,199 --> 01:20:46,320
and budgeted and we all felt that it was

1847
01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:48,800
important that we bring this to Council

1848
01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:51,560
in an information piece so that we

1849
01:20:51,560 --> 01:20:53,159
didn't weren't in a position somewhere

1850
01:20:53,159 --> 01:20:55,719
later where we have all these contracts

1851
01:20:55,719 --> 01:20:58,480
amendments that you know the first

1852
01:20:58,480 --> 01:21:01,760
couple were in the city manager

1853
01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:05,639
authority to sign for but we just

1854
01:21:05,639 --> 01:21:07,440
thought it would be a good idea to bring

1855
01:21:07,440 --> 01:21:11,400
this out as information and I would take

1856
01:21:11,400 --> 01:21:14,120
my best swing at explaining that

1857
01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:17,350
process

1858
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:20,360
and and just let everyone be aware that

1859
01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:24,480
this you know the 11.4 per s the

1860
01:21:24,480 --> 01:21:27,280
11.47% continues to

1861
01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:31,080
increase with each one of these and this

1862
01:21:31,080 --> 01:21:34,400
is separate from the Avenue we're

1863
01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:37,880
investigating to put partly back

1864
01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:40,960
into emergency repair out of the

1865
01:21:40,960 --> 01:21:43,480
permanent repair this is just this is

1866
01:21:43,480 --> 01:21:46,000
just the natural state of the process

1867
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:48,600
that we would go through anytime that

1868
01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:51,000
federal funds are involved in a Federal

1869
01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:53,679
Highway pass through to calr

1870
01:21:53,679 --> 01:21:56,000
and so that was the nature of this

1871
01:21:56,000 --> 01:21:59,360
report is to just make Council aware of

1872
01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:01,520
the Amendments and how that adds up on

1873
01:22:01,520 --> 01:22:04,159
our percentage of

1874
01:22:04,159 --> 01:22:07,840
match yeah I mean and that that was that

1875
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:09,600
was sort of the the big picture item

1876
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:10,719
that we wanted to bring forward to you

1877
01:22:10,719 --> 01:22:12,960
guys is that when these projects first

1878
01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:15,719
came about following the flooding in

1879
01:22:15,719 --> 01:22:18,239
2019 uh the prices that we were looking

1880
01:22:18,239 --> 01:22:20,560
at are quite different than where they

1881
01:22:20,560 --> 01:22:23,239
are now and

1882
01:22:23,239 --> 01:22:25,679
11.47% on what those prices are is a

1883
01:22:25,679 --> 01:22:26,960
completely different number of where

1884
01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:30,239
we're at with 11.4 there um however I

1885
01:22:30,239 --> 01:22:32,560
mean these are problems that are not

1886
01:22:32,560 --> 01:22:34,920
going to go away and they're not going

1887
01:22:34,920 --> 01:22:37,679
to get any cheaper but really we just

1888
01:22:37,679 --> 01:22:39,600
wanted to Daylight this out and make

1889
01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:41,800
sure that Council was aware that you

1890
01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:44,159
know why am I still seeing you know the

1891
01:22:44,159 --> 01:22:46,199
barriers out there by Forbes Creek at

1892
01:22:46,199 --> 01:22:48,880
Main Street why are why are those plates

1893
01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:51,080
still over the top of Harley I mean I

1894
01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:53,239
think it's important to understand that

1895
01:22:53,239 --> 01:22:56,000
these these pieces are going on what

1896
01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:58,480
they mean where we're at in the process

1897
01:22:58,480 --> 01:23:00,320
they will eventually get there it's just

1898
01:23:00,320 --> 01:23:02,600
it's really difficult for us to give you

1899
01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:03,920
a straight answer of how much it's

1900
01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:07,080
actually going to cost because it keeps

1901
01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:09,280
changing and like like Ron said they

1902
01:23:09,280 --> 01:23:11,320
keep kind of it feels like they keep

1903
01:23:11,320 --> 01:23:13,719
moving the ball on us I mean one of the

1904
01:23:13,719 --> 01:23:15,600
biggest surprises that we got hit with

1905
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:19,320
is uh the cost that they want us to

1906
01:23:19,320 --> 01:23:23,159
secure temporary construction right away

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01:23:23,159 --> 01:23:24,000
is

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01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:26,480
astronomical not not permanent right

1909
01:23:26,480 --> 01:23:30,159
away but just right away that we'll be

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01:23:30,159 --> 01:23:32,360
using temporarily while we do the

1911
01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:35,920
construction they have a formula of what

1912
01:23:35,920 --> 01:23:38,120
that costs and

1913
01:23:38,120 --> 01:23:41,199
it's it's astronomical it adds it adds

1914
01:23:41,199 --> 01:23:44,080
huge percentages to it but it's part of

1915
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:46,600
that Federal process if we want any

1916
01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:49,360
federal monies we have to adhere to all

1917
01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:51,480
those pieces it's sort of an All or

1918
01:23:51,480 --> 01:23:54,120
Nothing kind of piece and that's you

1919
01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:57,639
know and it's it's difficult and in the

1920
01:23:57,639 --> 01:23:59,719
agency's defense you know they they

1921
01:23:59,719 --> 01:24:01,880
can't give us a whole picture until you

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01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:04,800
finish this step and that gives you you

1923
01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:06,560
know what it is that you're up against

1924
01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:08,199
they can't answer all those questions

1925
01:24:08,199 --> 01:24:10,440
until they get that and then you okay

1926
01:24:10,440 --> 01:24:13,000
now like like Ron said oh you got this

1927
01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:14,880
going on so now you have to do this

1928
01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:17,760
eight-step NEPA process uh to mitigate

1929
01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:19,520
for that effort well that eight-step

1930
01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:22,880
mitigation process adds additional cost

1931
01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:26,000
and probably more uh issue is the

1932
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:27,920
additional time that it puts in and so

1933
01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:29,679
we keep hitting these different things

1934
01:24:29,679 --> 01:24:31,920
so just wanted Council to be kind of

1935
01:24:31,920 --> 01:24:36,480
aware of where we're at and uh why these

1936
01:24:36,480 --> 01:24:39,520
things are one taking so long and two

1937
01:24:39,520 --> 01:24:43,229
why the costs keep going

1938
01:24:43,239 --> 01:24:45,360
up and that and you see a lot of

1939
01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:46,639
jurisdictions will throw in the to and

1940
01:24:46,639 --> 01:24:47,679
just say we don't want anything to do

1941
01:24:47,679 --> 01:24:49,159
with Federal money I mean and that's

1942
01:24:49,159 --> 01:24:51,040
where some of these just jurisdictions

1943
01:24:51,040 --> 01:24:52,800
get to that point and what once you get

1944
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:55,719
started you're po committed well I mean

1945
01:24:55,719 --> 01:24:57,679
you are I mean we're we're committed I

1946
01:24:57,679 --> 01:24:58,800
mean we're obviously going to have to

1947
01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:00,159
pay for the work that's already done but

1948
01:25:00,159 --> 01:25:01,800
I mean if Council says you know stop

1949
01:25:01,800 --> 01:25:03,719
we'll just figure out a different way

1950
01:25:03,719 --> 01:25:06,719
then um you we still have these half

1951
01:25:06,719 --> 01:25:08,639
completed projects that's not my

1952
01:25:08,639 --> 01:25:11,199
recommendation I just think that it's

1953
01:25:11,199 --> 01:25:12,239
you

1954
01:25:12,239 --> 01:25:14,000
know that

1955
01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:16,639
11.47% just keeps getting bigger and we

1956
01:25:16,639 --> 01:25:18,400
don't have a very large pot to begin

1957
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:20,440
with and so it starts to eat away at

1958
01:25:20,440 --> 01:25:24,480
other projects but letting C heartley

1959
01:25:24,480 --> 01:25:26,480
deteriorate is just going to cost us

1960
01:25:26,480 --> 01:25:29,040
more money letting the bank continue to

1961
01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:31,040
erode up Forbes Creek is just going to

1962
01:25:31,040 --> 01:25:32,760
cost more money but I I think it was

1963
01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:34,520
just what we really wanted to accomplish

1964
01:25:34,520 --> 01:25:36,960
tonight was just an update and an

1965
01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:38,360
overview and I wish we had better

1966
01:25:38,360 --> 01:25:39,560
answers I wish I could give you a

1967
01:25:39,560 --> 01:25:40,920
definitive timeline and I wish I could

1968
01:25:40,920 --> 01:25:43,679
give you a definitive price but we

1969
01:25:43,679 --> 01:25:45,760
can't

1970
01:25:45,760 --> 01:25:48,440
okay I appreciate you guys you know

1971
01:25:48,440 --> 01:25:51,159
explaining all that and and um bringing

1972
01:25:51,159 --> 01:25:53,920
it up to the to our attention so we

1973
01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:56,280
could understand it and I think in the

1974
01:25:56,280 --> 01:25:59,440
end kind of like you've touched on

1975
01:25:59,440 --> 01:26:01,760
either it's still a benefit to get the

1976
01:26:01,760 --> 01:26:04,679
federal funds and so long as that's true

1977
01:26:04,679 --> 01:26:07,560
and this is what they make this is what

1978
01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:10,239
they require we're just sort of stuck in

1979
01:26:10,239 --> 01:26:13,040
it and that it costs what it costs right

1980
01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:14,400
and I think that's where we are I I

1981
01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:15,199
don't think we're making a

1982
01:26:15,199 --> 01:26:16,520
recommendation that we still don't think

1983
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:18,960
that it's a benefit I just it's it's

1984
01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:21,000
taking more time and resources than we

1985
01:26:21,000 --> 01:26:25,070
thought yeah

1986
01:26:25,080 --> 01:26:26,520
putting a few more gray hairs in our

1987
01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:30,159
head yeah it sounds annoying Ron

1988
01:26:30,159 --> 01:26:34,669
very it's a fascinating

1989
01:26:34,679 --> 01:26:37,840
process pry straightforward too

1990
01:26:37,840 --> 01:26:40,600
yeah all right um I'd like to open this

1991
01:26:40,600 --> 01:26:43,760
up to the public any questions or

1992
01:26:43,760 --> 01:26:46,239
comments not seeing anybody jumping up

1993
01:26:46,239 --> 01:26:47,080
to the

1994
01:26:47,080 --> 01:26:49,560
podium uh do we have anybody online Nick

1995
01:26:49,560 --> 01:26:51,080
with their hands I seen no hands raised

1996
01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:52,800
online all right

1997
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:55,520
uh let's bring it back to council last

1998
01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:58,360
comment receive and file think we're

1999
01:26:58,360 --> 01:27:00,199
done good job

2000
01:27:00,199 --> 01:27:03,280
Ron thank you hey so you just you just

2001
01:27:03,280 --> 01:27:05,440
made your explanation so when you come

2002
01:27:05,440 --> 01:27:07,400
back asking for more money you'll say do

2003
01:27:07,400 --> 01:27:09,520
you remember that night I told you see I

2004
01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:14,390
knew one of them would catch

2005
01:27:14,400 --> 01:27:18,600
on okay um moving along to uh city

2006
01:27:18,600 --> 01:27:20,800
council Communications Ron would you

2007
01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:23,440
like to start with that

2008
01:27:23,440 --> 01:27:25,400
thank you mayor for I have nothing

2009
01:27:25,400 --> 01:27:27,719
further nothing nothing tonight thank

2010
01:27:27,719 --> 01:27:30,440
you nothing to

2011
01:27:30,440 --> 01:27:33,040
report assistant city manager nothing to

2012
01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:36,040
report thank you city manager would you

2013
01:27:36,040 --> 01:27:37,920
skip over David well no I can go

2014
01:27:37,920 --> 01:27:40,679
back I would I would just say uh you

2015
01:27:40,679 --> 01:27:43,320
know once again uh we survived another

2016
01:27:43,320 --> 01:27:46,600
onslaught of Storms and kudos to um you

2017
01:27:46,600 --> 01:27:49,520
both our Public Works staff and PD staff

2018
01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:51,760
who were out there uh little less

2019
01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:54,600
damaged than the last time however um

2020
01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:58,800
we're being very uh strategic in uh in

2021
01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:01,119
going to the areas that we know that are

2022
01:28:01,119 --> 01:28:03,159
first to flood uh you know we put some

2023
01:28:03,159 --> 01:28:05,199
road closure signs out on some areas of

2024
01:28:05,199 --> 01:28:07,520
Esplanade in the lowest lands there um

2025
01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:08,880
we're getting we're getting to that

2026
01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:11,400
point I think the lake is at about eight

2027
01:28:11,400 --> 01:28:13,600
um we probably have in our Arsenal the

2028
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:16,400
ability to take on one more of those

2029
01:28:16,400 --> 01:28:22,239
storms and after that we're done we're just in we're at the mercy of of

2030
01:28:22,239 --> 01:28:24,119
the lake so we're doing all the stuff

2031
01:28:24,119 --> 01:28:26,639
that we can do um ahead of time uh

2032
01:28:26,639 --> 01:28:28,080
checking the systems making sure that

2033
01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:30,080
we're uh you not overwhelming some of

2034
01:28:30,080 --> 01:28:32,920
our items but um at the end of the

2035
01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:34,920
day if I could change the weather I

2036
01:28:34,920 --> 01:28:37,870
wouldn't be

2037
01:28:37,880 --> 01:28:40,960
here okay interesting

2038
01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:44,719
comment uh City attorney Dave yeah I

2039
01:28:44,719 --> 01:28:47,600
just wanted to remind the council I did

2040
01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:50,480
send you the Amicus brief that um our

2041
01:28:50,480 --> 01:28:52,199
firm filed on behalf of the league and a

2042
01:28:52,199 --> 01:28:55,560
number of other um local government um

2043
01:28:55,560 --> 01:28:57,520
agencies related to the California

2044
01:28:57,520 --> 01:28:59,440
business Round Table case so that case

2045
01:28:59,440 --> 01:29:01,159
is now fully briefed before the

2046
01:29:01,159 --> 01:29:03,639
California Supreme Court so at this

2047
01:29:03,639 --> 01:29:05,119
point I think we just we're just waiting

2048
01:29:05,119 --> 01:29:08,480
for them to set oral argument

2049
01:29:08,480 --> 01:29:11,800
um and but it is it will get adjudicated

2050
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:15,639
prior to having to publish the pamphlets

2051
01:29:15,639 --> 01:29:17,560
the ballots for the November election so

2052
01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:18,960
that's where that

2053
01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:22,600
stands um since I wasn't here last time

2054
01:29:22,600 --> 01:29:25,760
I can update you I'm a member of the

2055
01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:28,520
Cannabis uh regul regulatory committee

2056
01:29:28,520 --> 01:29:30,800
for the for the City Attorney's

2057
01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:32,320
department and we're update we've just

2058
01:29:32,320 --> 01:29:35,480
finished our draft update of the seed to

2059
01:29:35,480 --> 01:29:38,600
sale which is the League's um guide on

2060
01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:40,960
Canabis regulation so hopefully we'll

2061
01:29:40,960 --> 01:29:45,679
get that thing out soon um and I believe

2062
01:29:45,679 --> 01:29:47,920
that's about all I have to

2063
01:29:47,920 --> 01:29:50,920
report thank

2064
01:29:50,920 --> 01:29:54,719
you council member matina uh nothing to

2065
01:29:54,719 --> 01:29:58,600
report council member Disney yes um as a

2066
01:29:58,600 --> 01:30:00,520
new member to the lakport Main Street

2067
01:30:00,520 --> 01:30:02,639
Association they had their meeting last

2068
01:30:02,639 --> 01:30:06,960
night um and the only thing really to to

2069
01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:09,960
report out of that is March 29th they're

2070
01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:13,000
sponsoring a free movie at the Soares um

2071
01:30:13,000 --> 01:30:20,280
it's going to be Toy Story and so come watch the movie March 29th and

2072
01:30:20,280 --> 01:30:23,679
that's it right come member parlette no

2073
01:30:23,679 --> 01:30:27,800
report uh proem Costa no report and no

2074
01:30:27,800 --> 01:30:29,800
report for myself tonight this meeting

2075
01:30:29,800 --> 01:30:34,189
is

2076
01:30:34,199 --> 01:30:37,199
adjourned