1 00:00:02,900 --> 00:00:32,880 Good evening, everyone. And welcome to the city council regular meeting. It is Monday, March 16th, 2026. We are located Lakeway City Hall, 1102, Longings Crossing Road, Lakeway, Texas, 78734. The time is 632 p.m., the meeting is called to order. I note that six members of council are present on the dius. Council members, semantics will be absent this evening. Therefore, we do have a quorum and I call this meeting to order. It is a historic day. 2 00:00:32,880 --> 00:00:36,740 Today, most people are talking about America 250 throughout the world. 3 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:42,980 Two of the architects of America 250 are James Madison, our fourth president, and Thomas 4 00:00:42,980 --> 00:00:44,220 Jefferson, our third president. 5 00:00:45,160 --> 00:00:48,960 Today is James Madison's 275th birthday. 6 00:00:49,980 --> 00:00:54,780 James Madison is widely regarded as the architect of the United States Constitution. 7 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:58,140 It's brilliance, it's simplicity, and it's checks and balances. 8 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:02,540 in federalist 51, one of his most famous statements were, 9 00:01:03,180 --> 00:01:06,760 if men were angels, no government would be necessary. 10 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:09,200 If angels were to govern men, 11 00:01:09,740 --> 00:01:12,440 neither external nor internal controls on government 12 00:01:12,440 --> 00:01:13,820 would be necessary. 13 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:16,460 True words have never been written. 14 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,800 And on this day in 1802, 15 00:01:21,740 --> 00:01:24,080 the third president of the United States, Thomas Jefferson, 16 00:01:24,780 --> 00:01:26,640 overturned his longstanding tradition 17 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:34,960 to a active and longstanding military, and established the creation of a college of engineers 18 00:01:35,470 --> 00:01:37,780 to be garrisoned at West Point, New York. 19 00:01:38,500 --> 00:01:45,360 And so today is the 224th anniversary of the founding of West Point or what we graduate 20 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:47,040 refer to as Founders Day. 21 00:01:47,620 --> 00:01:52,740 So in order to celebrate that and all of the great things our founding fathers did, would 22 00:01:52,740 --> 00:01:56,060 Would you please, to the best of your ability, rise and join me in the Pledge of Allegiance? 23 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:11,960 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 24 00:02:17,740 --> 00:02:18,180 Thank you. 25 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:26,340 Calling for citizens participation for the consent agenda and the financial report no ensigned up in advance does anyone wish to address council on those items. 26 00:02:26,340 --> 00:02:28,680 I see none in close citizens participation. 27 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:38,340 The consent agenda is called, I have every request to have a separate conversation on items 10 and 11, and so they will be removed from the consent agenda at this time. 28 00:02:39,260 --> 00:02:40,880 Do I have an emotion for the consent agenda? 29 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:45,400 I'll make a motion, we approve the consent agenda, except I don't have an element. 30 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:46,300 Second. 31 00:02:46,920 --> 00:02:53,880 I have a motion second to approve the consent agenda, absent items 10 and 11, any further conversation discussion? 32 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:58,840 I see none. All those in favor please raise your answer. I that motion carries unanimously 33 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,040 six. Nothing. Thank you very much, Council. 34 00:03:04,340 --> 00:03:09,520 With that, we will move directly to item 14, 35 00:03:10,300 --> 00:03:16,860 and it is our great pleasure as the City Council has just so ordained that we will see the 36 00:03:16,860 --> 00:03:22,500 administration of the oath of office to our newest City employee, Lakeway Associate Municipal 37 00:03:22,500 --> 00:03:27,900 judge, so if I might ask our presiding judge to come forward with our new municipal judge. 38 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:50,550 State your name, do solidness, swear, or affirm, do solemnly swear or affirm that I will 39 00:03:50,550 --> 00:03:56,630 faithfully execute the duties of the office, that I will faithfully execute the duties of 40 00:03:56,630 --> 00:04:03,830 the office of Associate Judge, City of Lake White Municipal Court of Associate Judge, City 41 00:04:03,830 --> 00:04:10,310 of Lakeland Municipal Court of the State of Texas and will to the best of my 42 00:04:10,310 --> 00:04:16,830 ability and will to the best of my ability preserve protect and defend the 43 00:04:16,830 --> 00:04:22,510 Constitution and laws preserve protect and defend the Constitution and laws of 44 00:04:22,510 --> 00:04:27,790 the United States of the United States and of this state and of this state so help me 45 00:04:27,790 --> 00:04:29,870 God so help me God congratulations 46 00:04:29,870 --> 00:04:31,990 I think 47 00:04:53,340 --> 00:04:57,280 two or a couple of times I've got the interruption to get there. 48 00:05:08,460 --> 00:05:09,520 Congratulations, Judge. 49 00:05:10,260 --> 00:05:10,820 I'll 50 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:20,520 call item 10, discussion and possible action regarding ordinance number 2026-03-16-03. 51 00:05:20,660 --> 00:05:26,660 In ordinance of the City Council, the City of Lakeway, amending ordinance number 2001-10-29-1, 52 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:33,980 by amending the Lakeway City Council meeting of decor and policy adopted in ordinance 2016-08-15-03, 53 00:05:33,980 --> 00:05:37,580 be providing for finding savings, severability, repealer, and an effective date. 54 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:44,820 We have a staff report, Councilmember Sherman, who asks us to be pulled to your questions. 55 00:05:46,220 --> 00:05:50,140 If we just get some more background on this from the City Attorney, I'd appreciate it. 56 00:05:50,340 --> 00:05:55,960 And then second is if it's going to be posted somewhere where it's easier to find on our website. 57 00:06:01,170 --> 00:06:02,310 In terms of, geez. 58 00:06:02,770 --> 00:06:10,750 In terms of a more background, the decorum policy has been discussed as many council meetings 59 00:06:10,750 --> 00:06:16,530 recently, and I had never actually looked at it from a legal perspective, and in doing so 60 00:06:16,530 --> 00:06:23,110 noted that there had been some changes from the legislature. I think post the adoption 61 00:06:23,110 --> 00:06:30,490 of this ordinance, yeah, in 2019, that now we needed to clarify a little bit of the language 62 00:06:30,490 --> 00:06:36,110 cleaning it up to a better comply with the language legislature has put out in the Texas Government 63 00:06:36,110 --> 00:06:43,590 code section 551.007 relating to public testimony. There's a provision in there that says you 64 00:06:44,110 --> 00:06:48,750 can adopt rules about how people do their testimony, which we've done. But you may not 65 00:06:48,750 --> 00:06:53,310 prohibit public criticism of the governmental body, including criticism of any act of mission, 66 00:06:53,550 --> 00:06:59,110 policy, procedure, program, or service. So we needed to clean up some of the language, 67 00:06:59,450 --> 00:07:03,110 because it had language in there about just sort of being rude and things like that. 68 00:07:03,590 --> 00:07:08,890 Cool. Thank you. I've taken that language out and cleaned it up to better comply with the statute. 69 00:07:09,870 --> 00:07:21,050 Appreciate it and Jared, you had stepped out, but if you can potentially look at if we can have the decor and policies somewhere accessible on the website or make it easier, I was 70 00:07:21,050 --> 00:07:25,650 not able to find it. Maybe I'm totally overlooking the link for it, but we could do that. 71 00:07:26,030 --> 00:07:26,970 Cool. Thank you. 72 00:07:29,500 --> 00:07:34,580 Is there anything else? Not for tech. Would you motion them to return it to where we want to have a separate vote? 73 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:39,700 on it. I motion to approve agenda item number 10. Second. 74 00:07:40,420 --> 00:07:44,780 I have a motion to approve agenda 10 as presented. Is there any further comment or discussion? 75 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:49,900 I see none. All those in favor, please raise your answer. I approve six. Nothing. Thank you very much. 76 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:55,440 Item 11. Discussion and possible action to authorize the city manager and negotiate and execute 77 00:07:55,440 --> 00:08:03,560 work order agreement. Charly 24-0514-ECO for project management services for solicitation number 78 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:09,400 number 26-001 Butler-Ruff Hallow Park improvements, your question, sir. 79 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:14,600 So I appreciate this coming back now with a dollar amount, I know two months ago there 80 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:18,960 was no dollar amount associated so I thank you and the staff and Andrew for doing that. 81 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:26,480 Can we get some more information about what this is just to give, just for some education? 82 00:08:29,220 --> 00:08:29,880 Thank you. 83 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:30,860 Good 84 00:08:34,150 --> 00:08:36,710 evening Mayor, Mayor Pro Tem, City Council. 85 00:08:37,530 --> 00:08:40,510 Thank you for the opportunity to bring this item back, I appreciate that. 86 00:08:42,270 --> 00:08:49,210 So just to give you some background on this, this item is part of implementing the 2024 87 00:08:49,210 --> 00:08:51,090 Parks Improvement Bond project. 88 00:08:51,670 --> 00:08:57,070 There was a pretty lengthy staff report in there trying to connect the dots, perhaps a little 89 00:08:57,070 --> 00:08:57,350 better. 90 00:08:58,390 --> 00:09:03,950 This is going to ensure that the Butler Ruff Hollow Park Project is delivered successfully 91 00:09:04,350 --> 00:09:05,390 to our residents. 92 00:09:05,910 --> 00:09:10,910 Staff is requesting authorization for the city manager to negotiate and execute 93 00:09:11,190 --> 00:09:18,170 a work order agreement with PAPE Dawson Consulting Engineers for project management services for 94 00:09:18,170 --> 00:09:18,830 this park. 95 00:09:19,350 --> 00:09:25,710 As the city advances multiple park bond projects simultaneously because we are going 96 00:09:25,710 --> 00:09:32,810 have to now speed up this process a little bit. We have about five years to work 97 00:09:32,810 --> 00:09:39,550 through this bond before we can start incurring some penalties. So you're about 98 00:09:39,550 --> 00:09:43,070 a year and a half into this. So now we're going to be doing simultaneous 99 00:09:43,070 --> 00:09:49,290 larger projects. So this will involve Butler, Ruff Hollow Park, City Park, and the 100 00:09:49,290 --> 00:09:54,510 Swim Center simultaneously. And then we will get to hopefully live oak at some 101 00:09:54,510 --> 00:10:01,310 point. As the city advances these projects simultaneously the size, complexity, and overlapping 102 00:10:01,310 --> 00:10:06,210 timelines of these projects require consistent, professional oversight during construction. 103 00:10:07,590 --> 00:10:14,130 Staff evaluates opportunities to manage projects internally first. For example, park staff successfully 104 00:10:14,130 --> 00:10:20,090 managed the Activity Center PlayScape project last fall in 2025. While continuing to handle 105 00:10:20,090 --> 00:10:25,150 normal department responsibilities which help save the taxpayer dollars. 106 00:10:25,530 --> 00:10:29,850 However, the remaining bond projects are significantly larger and 107 00:10:29,850 --> 00:10:40,270 will incur at the same time making it difficult to maintain the same level of oversight while continuing to manage daily park operations without additional support. 108 00:10:41,230 --> 00:10:48,410 Simply put, we don't have the bandwidth or the expertise that is needed from an engineering standpoint. 109 00:10:48,410 --> 00:10:52,690 to now manage these larger park projects. 110 00:10:53,810 --> 00:11:11,210 This is not intended to replace staff responsibilities only to come alongside and up underneath and support that effort as a supplemental activity and provide specialized experience and expertise during the construction phase that we simply don't have. 111 00:11:12,350 --> 00:11:18,390 This will help us stay on schedule, remain within budget and meet city standards while also 112 00:11:18,390 --> 00:11:20,750 helping reduce risk and potential liability. 113 00:11:21,850 --> 00:11:26,990 Staff is recommending PAPE Dawson consulting engineers based on their qualifications and 114 00:11:26,990 --> 00:11:29,750 experience and expertise in this. 115 00:11:29,910 --> 00:11:37,970 When we went out in 2024, you may remember we went out in May of that year to do a RFQ 116 00:11:37,970 --> 00:11:41,890 for engineering firms for city projects. 117 00:11:41,890 --> 00:11:46,030 This involved not only facilities and parks, but also streets. 118 00:11:46,030 --> 00:11:55,990 Pape Dawson was one of the highest scored offers in that RFQ and they were the one that 119 00:11:55,990 --> 00:12:02,050 most aligned with park projects for what we were needing and that's why we're making 120 00:12:02,050 --> 00:12:07,050 the recommendation for them. Their responsibilities would include coordinating with contractors 121 00:12:07,050 --> 00:12:13,410 and design professionals, monitoring the project schedule and budget, attending construction 122 00:12:13,410 --> 00:12:18,110 meetings and inspections reviewing contractor pay applications to ensure 123 00:12:18,110 --> 00:12:22,790 that what we're being charged is what we're actually getting and providing 124 00:12:22,790 --> 00:12:27,670 regular updates not only to staff but more specifically to City Council and 125 00:12:27,670 --> 00:12:32,810 the public. For projects of this scale dedicated construction oversight helps 126 00:12:32,810 --> 00:12:37,410 ensure issues are addressed early which can help prevent delays and change 127 00:12:37,410 --> 00:12:43,130 orders that could ultimately cost the city more. This project at Butler 128 00:12:43,130 --> 00:12:46,230 Mr. Ruffalo is expected to take 300 calendar days. 129 00:12:46,750 --> 00:12:52,750 We are hoping that we have a qualified contractor that we can bring back to you next month for 130 00:12:53,170 --> 00:12:55,890 a recommendation for Council to award that bid. 131 00:12:57,210 --> 00:13:03,090 So 300 calendar days from when they start construction, so we'll be going through permitting. 132 00:13:03,450 --> 00:13:06,490 I'm hoping that by June 1, we have a shovel in the ground. 133 00:13:06,490 --> 00:13:18,550 So, getting paid Dawson on board now to where they can review the plans and be ready to go at the same time is really critical to the success of this project. 134 00:13:22,340 --> 00:13:37,060 Yeah, in closing, we have asked them to bid this on an hourly basis so that we can monitor costs with a not to exceed amount of $253,550. 135 00:13:37,060 --> 00:13:43,120 $150. We did look at this late last week to see if there was any way to reduce that. 136 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:48,140 One of the things that we talked about was the landscape architect and could we reduce 137 00:13:48,140 --> 00:13:56,740 that fee and to zero, and that is a possibility. Outside of that, we are asking for a not-to-exceed 138 00:13:56,740 --> 00:14:04,780 amount. Still to remain a $253.550. In the event we need to tap into landscape services, 139 00:14:04,780 --> 00:14:08,300 but we're looking at ways to mitigate that. 140 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:10,780 Pape Dawson is also here this evening 141 00:14:10,780 --> 00:14:12,480 if you have any questions for them as well. 142 00:14:13,180 --> 00:14:13,940 Okay, thank you. 143 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:15,880 Councilmember Sherman, any other questions? 144 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:18,140 Thank you, Director Bennett. 145 00:14:19,020 --> 00:14:22,060 That all seems reasonable to have third party oversight 146 00:14:22,060 --> 00:14:23,780 where I get caught up and it is, 147 00:14:24,540 --> 00:14:26,280 we're probably gonna be hiring a very competent 148 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:27,900 general construction firm. 149 00:14:28,080 --> 00:14:30,620 So we always do, so appreciate that. 150 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:40,400 This fee, it's approaching 10% equivalent of the actual budget for the park, which is $2.7 million. 151 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:47,760 It just seems like a big number for within 300 days. It just seems very expensive. 152 00:14:48,540 --> 00:14:53,320 There's a lot of time here by the vice president and some very high cost people. 153 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:56,880 I completely agree with what you're saying, like we need some more help and some third party help. 154 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,880 but to also to your point, if we have multiple 155 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:29,980 Local projects that we're going to be doing, have we considered hiring in-house? Because we also have, this is just for rough hollow, right? So I'm assuming there's been something similar for city park and for the swim center. Reproaching million dollars of these types of fees. That's a big staff that then we have fully in house. My other question is just around, if there's a, does this bring 156 00:15:29,980 --> 00:15:36,020 any guarantees. So, if they notice, hey, the contractor is not delivering on something 157 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:42,700 or we didn't, something didn't happen and we dug up some dinosaur when I was delayed 158 00:15:42,700 --> 00:15:46,700 project. I don't know, whatever that might be but does this have anything like, hey, as 159 00:15:46,700 --> 00:15:52,740 a result of hiring us now, we have the authority and we can, you know, dig the general contractor 160 00:15:52,740 --> 00:15:59,200 fee. You know, so does this fee get made up elsewhere? I don't think it does. Like, does 161 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:03,300 and includes some sort of a clawback function if something is going over. 162 00:16:05,420 --> 00:16:10,700 So yeah, I have completely an agreement with you on additional oversight and whether 163 00:16:10,700 --> 00:16:11,600 that's in-house. 164 00:16:11,740 --> 00:16:15,080 I don't want to be in-house if we have four more years of projects coming. 165 00:16:15,420 --> 00:16:17,220 I think that we have then better control. 166 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,560 That's a big budget overall that we could hire for. 167 00:16:21,780 --> 00:16:26,500 But just this one on its own approaching 10%, I'm having a tough time with that. 168 00:16:26,500 --> 00:16:32,380 Yeah, that's pretty standard when it comes to consulting fees like this. 169 00:16:34,900 --> 00:16:41,840 Because we are going to be doing multiple projects simultaneously, it really is critical 170 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:42,580 at this point. 171 00:16:42,820 --> 00:16:47,700 And we had talked about it, you know, before we even went to a bond, we had talked about 172 00:16:48,340 --> 00:16:51,700 having a consultant come in as a project manager. 173 00:16:52,060 --> 00:16:54,120 I mean, that was always part of the conversation. 174 00:16:55,000 --> 00:17:01,000 And so here we are in the 11th hour of we were able to manage the first one to save those dollars. 175 00:17:01,500 --> 00:17:03,120 Now we need to be moving forward. 176 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:08,260 And that's why this was brought to you last month was because now is the time. 177 00:17:10,660 --> 00:17:15,100 Yes, would I have loved to have had the 28 million that we originally proposed? 178 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,240 Yes, absolutely. It would give us a little more buffer. 179 00:17:18,740 --> 00:17:23,600 But the reality is we have 22 and prices are not going down. They're increasing. 180 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:29,520 and so the time is really critical to keep moving these forward plus we also don't want to get 181 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:36,360 dinged on the backside of taking too long to spend this bond money. We have to show in good faith 182 00:17:36,360 --> 00:17:42,520 that we are moving these projects forward. I can appreciate that. I still feel almost then 183 00:17:42,520 --> 00:17:47,360 it starts to feel like we're having to prove it like under duress but I appreciate your comments and 184 00:17:47,360 --> 00:17:53,400 additional information. If I could have you know if there was a way to speed up this process they 185 00:17:53,400 --> 00:18:00,420 certainly would, but things just take longer in government than we hope that they do, 186 00:18:00,620 --> 00:18:02,160 but that's the reality. 187 00:18:03,120 --> 00:18:03,440 Thank you. 188 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:05,860 Any other questions of council? 189 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:08,120 Just a quick question, Andrea. 190 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:16,500 I clearly don't have as much engineering experience as or understanding of the finances of this 191 00:18:16,500 --> 00:18:22,740 as councilmember Sherman must, but this was part of our 192 00:18:23,360 --> 00:18:28,780 I remember these discussions and throughout the entire process we were we 193 00:18:28,780 --> 00:18:33,740 understood we were going to need somebody like this and this is within the 194 00:18:33,740 --> 00:18:39,340 budget that we approved what three years ago. Oh, that was in May of 2024. 195 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:47,480 Oh, okay. So I'm not surprised in the slightest that we have this and I also have 196 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:52,620 every faith in you that you chose the right contractor along with the rest of 197 00:18:52,620 --> 00:19:02,320 staff and I appreciate all the work that went into this and I completely understand why 198 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:11,140 we need to use somebody like this as opposed to trying to wing it on our own. So I just want 199 00:19:11,140 --> 00:19:16,380 to congratulate you and staff on putting this together and bringing it to fruition. Thank you. 200 00:19:21,340 --> 00:19:25,860 I have a quick question before a motion so I 201 00:19:28,390 --> 00:19:30,530 hit it but it must not have went on a quick question 202 00:19:30,530 --> 00:19:37,030 director Bennett so the remaining projects each one of these will have a similar price 203 00:19:37,030 --> 00:19:41,030 take for projects is that correct is that what I understood I just want to make sure 204 00:19:41,030 --> 00:19:46,970 that I'm fully understanding it yes okay well they will be similar okay yeah it just depends 205 00:19:46,970 --> 00:19:50,290 on the scope. So City Park will be the biggest project that we do. 206 00:19:51,030 --> 00:19:54,270 So in the center may be the most complicated project that we do. 207 00:19:55,210 --> 00:19:57,050 But each one will have a similar price tag. 208 00:19:58,590 --> 00:20:00,810 I just stagger a percentage of percentage. 209 00:20:01,310 --> 00:20:02,810 And just as a percentage, sorry. 210 00:20:03,150 --> 00:20:03,970 Just as a question, 211 00:20:05,390 --> 00:20:08,570 this was part of the bond package. 212 00:20:08,970 --> 00:20:13,210 Yes. This was all part of what we voted to bring to the bond, just to clarify. 213 00:20:13,210 --> 00:20:16,170 This is not new tax dollars going out. 214 00:20:16,170 --> 00:20:18,170 This is all part of the original plan. 215 00:20:18,690 --> 00:20:23,230 We're just now voting on the incremental pieces of the plan. 216 00:20:23,510 --> 00:20:23,530 Right. 217 00:20:23,990 --> 00:20:24,190 Okay. 218 00:20:24,350 --> 00:20:24,610 Thank you. 219 00:20:24,910 --> 00:20:25,150 No. 220 00:20:25,690 --> 00:20:26,610 And I agree. 221 00:20:26,730 --> 00:20:28,990 I think there's probably maybe a little sticker shock, right? 222 00:20:29,230 --> 00:20:34,450 You think you're going in to get a, you know, the original thing was we put a $22 million bond 223 00:20:34,450 --> 00:20:38,730 out and we put $2.2 million in for contract supervision. 224 00:20:39,470 --> 00:20:40,030 That's true. 225 00:20:40,030 --> 00:20:44,650 I think maybe I don't I don't want to speak and put words in your mouth constant membership 226 00:20:44,650 --> 00:20:48,490 It may be just the dollar amount broken up because we did approve it, right? 227 00:20:48,910 --> 00:20:54,850 And so this is the funds that are already allocated, but just seeing it I think in real-time with actual 228 00:20:55,850 --> 00:21:01,610 Dollars and percentages to discuss it might be a little bit of a sticker shock, right? Everyone thinks like yes 229 00:21:01,610 --> 00:21:05,170 It's approved, but now it's like whoa sure now it's here 230 00:21:09,090 --> 00:21:25,290 We have to still authorize it for these exact reasons and questions, just like we have on Hey Parks Equipment has cost more so yes, it's captured with the original bond amount, not disputing that I never have, but it still comes back to us ultimately for a discussion. 231 00:21:26,010 --> 00:21:29,850 Okay, if there are no other questions, I'll move to a motion. 232 00:21:30,730 --> 00:21:32,490 I'll make a motion, we approve agenda, I don't know whether. 233 00:21:33,350 --> 00:21:34,230 And I'll second. 234 00:21:35,510 --> 00:21:36,570 Any further discussion? 235 00:21:37,650 --> 00:21:41,710 All those in favor of approving motion, 11 as print, please say, I, all those opposed. 236 00:21:42,350 --> 00:21:43,530 Motion carries five to one. 237 00:21:43,630 --> 00:21:44,190 Thank you, council. 238 00:21:46,900 --> 00:21:48,400 Item 15, the financial report. 239 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:02,380 Thank you, Mayor, council, Mayor Presum. 240 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:05,820 Happy to present our monthly financial opening. 241 00:22:07,460 --> 00:22:13,540 This is our March update. These figures are as of the end of February. Let's take a look at our revenues. 242 00:22:16,220 --> 00:22:20,760 Okay, so our tax revenues were on target, property tax, sales tax. You can see the property tax, 243 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:27,640 a couple hundred thousand more budgeted than when we brought in. That will continue to come in through the rest of the fiscal year. 244 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:34,120 Permits, fines, and fees. Those are trending slightly lower than what we projected. 245 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:43,000 It's mostly due year-over-year court revenues lower than projected at this point. 246 00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:48,100 Other program revenues, franchise fees, those are on target. 247 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:56,160 And then looking ahead are expected additional revenue collections and permits, fines and 248 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:56,400 fees. 249 00:22:57,040 --> 00:23:00,220 You can look at the permit collection chart there to the right. 250 00:23:00,220 --> 00:23:07,500 you can see we've collected approximately 300,000, 1.35 is what we budgeted, so that 300,000 251 00:23:07,500 --> 00:23:12,600 is approximately 25%. We're 40% through the year, so we're filling that gap the rest 252 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:18,140 of the year with projects that come in. There's a couple of projects that are on the horizon 253 00:23:18,140 --> 00:23:23,720 that we are expecting to come in, and that'll fill that gap for the remainder of the year. 254 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:30,540 And then as far as I just wanted to mention real quick court, they have an 255 00:23:30,540 --> 00:23:34,080 initiative where they're looking at warrants currently, so that'll be an 256 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,800 additional revenue stream potentially to fill to fill that gap as well, the 257 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:43,860 remainder of the fiscal year. On the expenditure side, expenditures are they're 258 00:23:43,860 --> 00:23:52,380 tracking on budget. We do have, if you look at PD, that there's a bit of a variance 259 00:23:52,380 --> 00:23:59,100 there, approximately 300,000. Half of that is due to, we had some early year expenditures, 260 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:04,680 so that's just a timing issue. The other half, I wanted to point that out. This month was 261 00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:11,840 personnel, a little over budget on salaries. However, I'm not showing it here if you take the city-wide 262 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:20,020 salaries were on budget. That gap is just kind of related to PD. So what we'll do is, as we progress 263 00:24:20,020 --> 00:24:24,700 of the year we may kind of go internally and reallocated. It makes sense that PD has 264 00:24:24,700 --> 00:24:29,840 that gap because that's where the majority of the vacancies were budgeted. So we'll 265 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:33,920 either smooth that out. I don't want to anticipate, you know, we need to come back for an 266 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,760 amendment, but if we do, sure, you know, I'll bring that to you all. 267 00:24:38,980 --> 00:24:41,440 And that's, yeah, 268 00:24:41,460 --> 00:24:48,260 we have a negative 100,000, so total budget variance. I think we're in a good spot. 269 00:24:48,780 --> 00:24:50,380 That concludes my update. 270 00:24:50,820 --> 00:24:51,680 Happy to answer any questions. 271 00:24:52,420 --> 00:24:52,920 Thank you. 272 00:24:53,380 --> 00:24:54,640 Any questions for the finance director? 273 00:24:55,260 --> 00:24:55,340 Yeah. 274 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:57,400 Can you go back one slide? 275 00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:57,860 Please. 276 00:24:58,020 --> 00:24:58,100 Sure. 277 00:24:58,840 --> 00:24:59,180 Thanks, Aaron. 278 00:25:00,020 --> 00:25:00,800 You mentioned it. 279 00:25:01,060 --> 00:25:03,080 Projected Irvier court revenues are lower. 280 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:05,600 So that looks like a hundred pounds. 281 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:09,540 What do you, can you just maybe want to give us more information on that? 282 00:25:10,100 --> 00:25:13,140 It's going to be just the fine collections. 283 00:25:13,140 --> 00:25:15,840 So I guess issuing citations. 284 00:25:16,620 --> 00:25:19,120 I mean, it's a question for the chief centers. 285 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:23,400 Yeah, it might be for the chief, just looking year-over-year, you know, we have our projections 286 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:29,420 based on historic data year-over-year, we're not at that, you know, as we progress, maybe 287 00:25:29,420 --> 00:25:30,220 we'll get there. 288 00:25:30,460 --> 00:25:36,040 I do know, like I mentioned before, the warrant, the initiative of the warrants might bring 289 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:40,440 in and just on revenue stream to fill that gap, but yeah, chief might be able to get you 290 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:40,600 mad. 291 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:47,360 That's all right because you said it's mostly then due to the courts, not like permits for 292 00:25:47,360 --> 00:25:47,940 building permits. 293 00:25:48,860 --> 00:25:56,280 So here what you're seeing there is what we've projected to bring in just through our 294 00:25:56,280 --> 00:26:00,820 normal BDS operations and what I've decided to do going forward is just kind of show you 295 00:26:00,820 --> 00:26:02,040 the big picture down below. 296 00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:05,140 So I mean we do need to get to that 1.35. 297 00:26:05,140 --> 00:26:11,080 Sorry, I just meant on that, in the top table where it says permits, fines and fees. 298 00:26:11,220 --> 00:26:13,800 Is that permit the same as a BDS permit or is it different permit? 299 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:28,760 Yeah, and it's, those numbers you can buy and I can break them out, that's kind of, you know, you don't need to, I just, I was just wanting to, I was just surprised that the court was that far, you know, trending behind, but all good. 300 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:33,840 Yeah, I mean just year over year and you know it it it it could bounce back 301 00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:39,780 And I'll just keep all updated on that or people are speeding less. So yeah, yeah, it's a lot of people 302 00:26:41,180 --> 00:26:47,620 Well as a point you now have two judges instead of one and so that should reduce the docket and 303 00:26:47,620 --> 00:26:51,960 Get the fines fees proceeding. Yeah, thanks 304 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,260 Aaron. You're welcome. Any other questions? 305 00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,120 Okay, thank you very much. All right. Thank you 306 00:26:59,940 --> 00:27:04,220 Item 16, Citizens Participation for items that are not on this agenda, no one signed 307 00:27:04,220 --> 00:27:09,260 up in advance does anyone present, wish to address counsel on any item not on this agenda. 308 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:18,160 Going once, twice, okay closing Citizens Participation, 17, presentation, discussion and possible 309 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:22,880 action to accept the fiscal year, 2025 City of Lakeway Audit, and we have a presentation 310 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:28,920 by Singleton Clark and company are certified public accountants who have rendered the audit 311 00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:33,120 and each member of council has a copy of the audit in front of them. 312 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:33,740 Good evening, sir. 313 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:34,320 Welcome back. 314 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:34,720 Good evening, sir. 315 00:27:35,700 --> 00:27:36,020 Thank you. 316 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:37,600 It's a pleasure to join here again. 317 00:27:37,700 --> 00:27:39,460 My name is Robert Contelkin with Singleton Clark. 318 00:27:40,340 --> 00:27:41,300 The city's independent auditor. 319 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,700 I'm here to present four captains, the audit. 320 00:27:44,860 --> 00:27:46,900 Everyone should have a copy in front of them, as Mayor mentioned. 321 00:27:47,940 --> 00:27:49,280 I used to flip pages. 322 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,200 I have more or less the same page with you, but we don't flip pages. 323 00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,620 But if anyone has any questions and we need to open it up, we certainly may. 324 00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:56,300 I will try to be brief. 325 00:27:57,120 --> 00:27:58,380 I will try to keep you from falling asleep. 326 00:27:59,540 --> 00:28:03,940 I like to focus on three things and if anything else, mention where we were asked. 327 00:28:05,420 --> 00:28:06,100 Conclude that. 328 00:28:07,220 --> 00:28:12,760 But I think we're safe to stick with my three, which are the audit opinion and what it means. 329 00:28:13,300 --> 00:28:18,080 How we got to that opinion, so whether other conclusions or outcomes of the audit and finally 330 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:22,200 the quick look at calculated reserves and general funds ending fund balance. 331 00:28:22,980 --> 00:28:23,840 So I'll start with the opinion. 332 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,160 It's a letter on the front of the report. 333 00:28:27,140 --> 00:28:31,040 Very important to us because it summarizes what we did, what we're responsible for, what 334 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:39,240 the city is responsible for, and the statement that covers all of the items under the opinion, 335 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:45,000 which are the financials, the supporting footnotes, and the required supplementary information. 336 00:28:45,660 --> 00:28:49,560 So the statement is that that information is fairly stated in all the terrestrial aspects 337 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:52,240 and presented in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles. 338 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:57,260 The technical term for this type of opinion received for the year is unmodified. 339 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:01,100 We often rely on the common term which is clean. 340 00:29:01,340 --> 00:29:05,640 The City of Lakeway received a cleaner unmodified opinion for the year under audit. 341 00:29:06,980 --> 00:29:10,920 It's important to consider other outcomes or conclusions of the audit. 342 00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:16,740 Those being potentially fine-aged related to controls are compliance, recommendations 343 00:29:16,740 --> 00:29:18,320 and or audit adjustments. 344 00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,640 I'm happy to inform you that there were no findings for the year under audit, there were 345 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:24,660 no recommendations, we had no audit adjustments. 346 00:29:27,750 --> 00:29:31,530 And over the years I've kind of struggled to put this in context because most of my clients 347 00:29:31,530 --> 00:29:36,830 do have some or all of those, but then it is important to put it on some sort of spectrum 348 00:29:36,830 --> 00:29:40,910 to explain why or why it is not a problem. 349 00:29:40,910 --> 00:29:43,690 But I'd like to introduce something to you. 350 00:29:43,770 --> 00:29:50,290 I don't know if I've discussed it in the past, but the city does submit for the Certificate 351 00:29:50,290 --> 00:29:53,950 of Achievement with the Government Finance Office of Association and has received that 352 00:29:53,950 --> 00:29:59,170 over the last several years as a Certificate in the report for last year. 353 00:30:03,570 --> 00:30:06,150 It's in the introductory section on 354 00:30:15,590 --> 00:30:40,170 Roman numeral page 13. And I think that that back goes to or speaks to why we don't have any issues. The audit is not designed to create quality, it's designed to verify it. And so I would not expect for an entity that goes out and receives annually that certificate of achievement from the government finance officer's association to have any issues, shouldn't have findings, shouldn't be making recommendations, and we shouldn't have any audit adjustments. 355 00:30:41,850 --> 00:30:47,370 The last thing I normally discuss with you, I'm sure very aware of, because of the transfer 356 00:30:47,370 --> 00:30:51,490 that's made related to access fund balance between the general fund and the capital reserve 357 00:30:51,490 --> 00:30:56,450 fund, is where your reserves are related to the unassigned fund balance and the general 358 00:30:56,450 --> 00:30:56,710 fund. 359 00:30:57,410 --> 00:31:02,470 And so we take the expenditures for the year, divided by 12, and come up with an average 360 00:31:02,470 --> 00:31:03,010 monthly amount. 361 00:31:03,270 --> 00:31:06,110 And so for the year under audit, the average monthly expenditures from the general fund 362 00:31:06,110 --> 00:31:12,350 or about 1.68 million, which then translated to about 4.4 months of reserve, 363 00:31:14,510 --> 00:31:15,450 which is slightly 364 00:31:15,450 --> 00:31:20,590 higher than I think you're normally around 90 days, and so the transfer that was sent 365 00:31:20,590 --> 00:31:26,410 from the General Fund to the capital reserve fund was 450,000, so when you sit down and 366 00:31:26,410 --> 00:31:30,370 look at that, the summer you have a little bit left from the prior year. 367 00:31:32,170 --> 00:31:35,910 Before I summarize and ask for any questions, I'd just like to thank you for allowing us 368 00:31:35,910 --> 00:31:40,330 serve as your independent auditor. I'd like to thank the Finance Department for all their 369 00:31:40,330 --> 00:31:45,590 help in conducting the audit. So in summary, clean up and gotten to the way you should, without 370 00:31:45,590 --> 00:31:51,610 the help of the audit, no findings, no recommendations, no audit adjustments and a healthy ending unassigned 371 00:31:51,610 --> 00:31:54,010 fund balance in the journal fund about 4.4 months. 372 00:31:56,260 --> 00:31:58,760 So thank you, sir. Are there any questions for our auditor? 373 00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:09,160 I don't know if it's for you sir or city manager does this help us achieve like a higher 374 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:14,620 bond rating? Does this come into play at all on that or is that completely separate? 375 00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:20,060 I mean it's part of the whole process of analyzing the city's fiscal health and so absolutely 376 00:32:20,540 --> 00:32:28,640 having consecutive clean audits and awards of achievement certainly help with that situation 377 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,220 Okay. Okay. Thanks. Any other questions? 378 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:37,720 Have are we posting this on the website for citizens to review if they so choose? 379 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:45,100 Yes, yes, yes. Do we have that? Do we know where that is that sometimes things can be a little difficult to find? 380 00:32:45,980 --> 00:32:53,760 I should be on the finance page. So we'll make sure that's out. Okay. Yeah, when we publish the results of the meeting, there will be a 381 00:32:53,760 --> 00:33:00,360 I mean, comment that the audit has been received and there will be a link to the current audit report when we said that our email. 382 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:01,760 Good. Thank you. 383 00:33:02,300 --> 00:33:03,260 Is there anything else? 384 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:04,100 Questions? 385 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:10,220 It might be worth considering an actual press release on it based on there was one item to come back to. 386 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:11,660 We can do that during the discussion period. 387 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:13,300 Okay. 388 00:33:14,420 --> 00:33:16,200 If there are no more questions, thank you, sir. 389 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:16,600 Thank you. 390 00:33:16,940 --> 00:33:17,920 Appreciate it very much. 391 00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:18,240 Of course. 392 00:33:18,340 --> 00:33:21,400 Citizens participation, does anyone wish to address counsel on this item? 393 00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:27,800 I see none and will close citizens participation return to the council for discussion. 394 00:33:29,860 --> 00:33:35,220 So yes, we can certainly advertise it and make sure that it's included in everyone understands 395 00:33:35,220 --> 00:33:35,480 that. 396 00:33:36,180 --> 00:33:40,680 I would like to start the discussion by congratulating the finance director and the finance 397 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,920 department city manager and staff for a second clean audit. 398 00:33:45,200 --> 00:33:51,380 It think that's incredibly good work and it's very hard to do in the real world. 399 00:33:51,380 --> 00:33:57,500 and getting it done consecutively is really quite a good, it's a good thing. 400 00:33:57,820 --> 00:33:59,860 And so we shouldn't let that pass unnoticed. 401 00:34:00,420 --> 00:34:01,720 Other discussion or items? 402 00:34:02,420 --> 00:34:04,260 I echo you and Council Member Sherman. 403 00:34:04,900 --> 00:34:05,580 Council Member Bryan? 404 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:11,780 I too would like to say thank you to our staff for the hard work and the dedication. 405 00:34:12,660 --> 00:34:15,300 And especially for multiple years now having good reports. 406 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:19,040 So very important and my kudos to you. 407 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:19,640 So thank you. 408 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:20,460 That's more Brinson. 409 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:21,560 Same. 410 00:34:21,860 --> 00:34:22,480 I'll give it easy. 411 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:23,020 All right. 412 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:23,540 Mayor Pro Tem. 413 00:34:24,260 --> 00:34:28,800 Yes, I would be remiss if I didn't say thank you since everybody else did. 414 00:34:29,720 --> 00:34:34,720 But this is year over year over year we tend to do extremely well. 415 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:38,200 You did it too. 416 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:49,020 Anyway, so, you know, in eight years of going through this, I would have to say that I've 417 00:34:49,020 --> 00:34:55,460 I've never seen the city perform poorly and it's exceptionally clean. 418 00:34:55,480 --> 00:35:01,040 I was going to ask a question about how we compared other cities, but you kind of answered 419 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:06,080 that when you mentioned that you're used to seeing a lot of the problems and you don't 420 00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:07,060 see them with us. 421 00:35:08,380 --> 00:35:16,360 I would say that among the top, for sure, I've got three actors that I do and I'd say you're 422 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:21,300 When you're out, no adjustments, very few, if any, related to maybe an implementation that we had to do, 423 00:35:21,460 --> 00:35:27,100 which we had a few this year related to, guess we won a one, but we did them as re-classes, so but, but very good. 424 00:35:27,860 --> 00:35:29,180 Great, thank you very much. 425 00:35:29,620 --> 00:35:30,140 Councillor Schell. 426 00:35:30,580 --> 00:35:31,380 Oh, sorry, that's it. 427 00:35:31,660 --> 00:35:32,600 Councillor Schell, were you making further? 428 00:35:33,340 --> 00:35:34,240 Same, thank you. 429 00:35:34,540 --> 00:35:34,920 All right, great. 430 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:40,980 Well, with that, I'd undertake a motion for the City Council to accept the audit report as presented. 431 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,540 I make a motion that we accept the audit report as presented. 432 00:35:44,700 --> 00:35:44,980 Second. 433 00:35:44,980 --> 00:35:48,520 I have a motion and a second to accept the audit report as presented in any 434 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,780 conversation discussion. I see none. All those in favor raise your hands 435 00:35:51,780 --> 00:35:55,260 ahead. That motion carries unanimously. Thank you very much for the 436 00:35:55,260 --> 00:36:00,900 presentation, sir. Thank you for your hard work again. We appreciate your firm 437 00:36:00,900 --> 00:36:05,480 having been with us a number of years and and Aaron and the team we're very 438 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:12,280 grateful to have acknowledged the city's finances and our processes are very 439 00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,960 very well documented and survive on it. 440 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:15,480 It's very good. 441 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:16,020 Thank you, sir. 442 00:36:20,340 --> 00:36:24,340 Item 18, a presentation by the Travis County Community Development Block Grant. 443 00:36:25,100 --> 00:36:29,400 And we have a presentation by Travis County Health and Human Services block grant team. 444 00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,340 Hello, and it's good to see you. 445 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:32,100 Welcome back. 446 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:37,840 It's one of those things where we like to see the county coming to us to talk about what 447 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,440 you all can do and how we might be able to work with you. 448 00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:44,160 So nice to see you again and look forward to hearing what you have to say, man. 449 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:50,780 Absolutely, thank you for having us. My name is Michaela Manian. I'm the planner for the community development block grant. 450 00:36:51,220 --> 00:37:00,980 With us today is also our planning manager, Ying Booth-Potodon, and we're excited to discuss with you today about what our grant is and how we can help your residents. 451 00:37:02,620 --> 00:37:10,700 Alright, so we are the community development block grant. If you've received emails from us, it's CDBG, a little bit easier to remember. 452 00:37:10,700 --> 00:37:14,560 this year we're going to be discussing changes to our program as well as some 453 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:21,420 things that have stayed consistent just for updates. So what is CDBG? We are a 454 00:37:21,420 --> 00:37:27,320 federal grant we have been received yearly by Travis County since 2006. We are 455 00:37:27,320 --> 00:37:33,380 yearly granted $1.7 million approximately. This money goes to supporting local 456 00:37:33,380 --> 00:37:39,180 communities and we focus on low to moderate income families. We also have a 457 00:37:39,180 --> 00:37:43,980 program for individual qualifying families, but we'll go into that a little bit further. 458 00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:51,600 So CDBG specifically is going to be that development block grant program. As I said, this is 459 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:57,600 designed for communities. Lots of things this grant can do. I've covered a couple of our 460 00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:02,860 really fun projects here that are very important for their communities. The first is going 461 00:38:02,860 --> 00:38:08,140 to be there are crystal-bend drainage projects improvements. This is something we do to help 462 00:38:08,140 --> 00:38:12,860 with flood mitigation. Very important in this area and I know it's a priority of this council. 463 00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:19,020 You can see there too is our forest bluff infrastructure improvements. Sidewalks are something 464 00:38:19,020 --> 00:38:25,200 that's very often overlooked. Also very important for the safety of communities. It's something we see a lot 465 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:31,700 as a need across Travis County, but especially in unincorporated areas. We'll go a little bit more into 466 00:38:31,700 --> 00:38:36,640 the different places in the county we work, but unincorporated is something that's often overlooked. 467 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:41,460 and you do have many constituents that may participate in the city but are 468 00:38:41,460 --> 00:38:46,480 still considered unincorporated even if they're your residents at the same time. 469 00:38:48,460 --> 00:38:52,940 So three here is a really fun one. That's our South East Metro all 470 00:38:52,940 --> 00:38:58,400 inclusive playground. This was completed in 2023. We did actually win some park 471 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:03,680 awards for it. It's as you can tell very very fun and because it is all 472 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:09,540 inclusive. We've especially made sure that children with any kind of disability or mobility 473 00:39:09,540 --> 00:39:13,300 impairments can still use that playground to its full extent. 474 00:39:13,820 --> 00:39:19,200 Four is going to be our Austin Colony Infrastructure Improvements. Similarly, this, you know, 475 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:24,520 it's a basic sidewalk, but when those are not available, especially around schools, folks 476 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:30,580 where places where elderly folks live, general residents, that is a huge impact on your 477 00:39:30,580 --> 00:39:36,760 community. Next here, this is going to be something very relevant to your constituents 478 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:41,760 especially. Home rehab is that program I mentioned a minute ago that is designed 479 00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:48,760 for individual families instead of at a community level. Home rehab is also part of the CDBG 480 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:59,320 program grant. It allows for up to $24,999 that individual qualifying families can use on 481 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,820 repairs for their homes that are necessary. 482 00:40:02,700 --> 00:40:08,740 Like we have listed there, septic systems can be a huge one, especially in unincorporated areas of Travis County. 483 00:40:09,260 --> 00:40:11,960 A personal one for me that's important is ADA compliance. 484 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:17,220 I know that you have residents that are aging in their homes that may need improvements so 485 00:40:17,220 --> 00:40:23,340 they can still access them, wheelchair ramps, shower handles, things that are very expensive and very needed. 486 00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:29,480 weatherization is something we see, this can look replacing windows, improving on heat 487 00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:33,140 and cooling infrastructure, you know, helping with those hot Texas summers. 488 00:40:34,020 --> 00:40:40,160 We are accepting applications now, this program is fairly new, but we have, you know, seen 489 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:44,640 a great need in the county, and it's something that, once again, is very applicable to your 490 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:51,560 residents, even if the CDBG grant as a broader, isn't always going to be used for central 491 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,860 for Lakeway areas, but Home Rehab's a big one. 492 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,880 Home is actually entirely different separate grant 493 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:57,860 from CDBG. 494 00:40:58,300 --> 00:41:01,420 This is a new program that our program is still rolling out. 495 00:41:01,900 --> 00:41:03,060 It's something that's designed 496 00:41:03,060 --> 00:41:05,100 to help our first-time homeowners 497 00:41:05,780 --> 00:41:08,600 with down payment, cost closing assistance, 498 00:41:09,020 --> 00:41:11,880 things that make it easier for folks in Travis County 499 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,560 to become first-time homeowners. 500 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,020 This can include in the Lakeway area. 501 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:20,340 Here's some great examples of our Home Rehab program. 502 00:41:20,340 --> 00:41:31,820 these were completed all this year. First is, like we mentioned, that ADA compliant wheelchair ramp for a family that now needs to have ability to access their home where previously they did not need to. 503 00:41:32,260 --> 00:41:38,720 Two is weatherization example. Those are double-pained window replacements to allow for easier heating cooling of a home. 504 00:41:39,340 --> 00:41:47,600 Three there, HVAC system, hugely important in our area, especially in our hot summers that can make homes livable where they may not otherwise be. 505 00:41:47,600 --> 00:41:50,520 and roofing repairs, something very expensive, 506 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:52,820 something that families will need help with 507 00:41:52,820 --> 00:41:55,520 and is often out of their budget otherwise. 508 00:41:57,860 --> 00:42:00,740 Eligibility is something that is a big question for us 509 00:42:00,740 --> 00:42:02,940 and there's some important things that go into it. 510 00:42:03,540 --> 00:42:05,560 First, I'd like to say every single project 511 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,460 that is applied to us, every family that is applied, 512 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:10,500 we do look at every one of those, 513 00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:13,340 even if we don't think they're going to qualify, 514 00:42:13,580 --> 00:42:14,620 our team still pays attention. 515 00:42:14,620 --> 00:42:19,400 So first we look at income level, that's low to moderate income families in Travis County. 516 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:23,360 This is going to be based on the moderate income levels for Travis County. 517 00:42:23,900 --> 00:42:28,020 And we do have to have that qualification to be able to support a family. 518 00:42:28,740 --> 00:42:30,100 We look at national objectives. 519 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:37,800 This is a way for us to make sure that CDBG programs across the country are aligned in helping people who need it the most. 520 00:42:38,180 --> 00:42:40,600 This means we look at that low to moderate income. 521 00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:50,140 We look at people that may especially qualify for specific needs, elderly residents that are considered part of a vulnerable population. 522 00:42:50,580 --> 00:42:52,580 We also have county priorities. 523 00:42:52,900 --> 00:42:54,600 These are set every five years. 524 00:42:54,940 --> 00:43:05,000 It's something that our team speaks to residents, collects surveys, speaks to city councils, such as yourselves, and creates two main priorities that we focus on. 525 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:10,000 This allows us to use our funds to the greatest capability in a specific area. 526 00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:14,960 Currently, our programs are looking at affordable housing and infrastructure. 527 00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:21,000 You can see on those examples how both of those were reflected, and they are what we continue 528 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:25,420 to see as a huge need in the community that we are able to fill. 529 00:43:26,380 --> 00:43:27,660 Again, there's some examples there. 530 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:29,200 We already talked about some of them. 531 00:43:29,580 --> 00:43:34,540 If there are questions about if something qualifies or what specific programs can look like, we're 532 00:43:34,540 --> 00:43:38,460 happy to answer them after, but like we said, we encourage all applications. 533 00:43:40,970 --> 00:43:41,150 All right. 534 00:43:41,390 --> 00:43:43,330 This is our community needs survey. 535 00:43:43,790 --> 00:43:47,450 I mentioned a couple of seconds ago about how we establish our priorities. 536 00:43:48,230 --> 00:43:49,450 This is how we do that. 537 00:43:49,910 --> 00:43:56,670 Every year we have a survey that is extended to residents, excuse me, all, that has a list 538 00:43:56,670 --> 00:44:00,690 of questions that allows residents to tell us what matters to them in their community. 539 00:44:01,090 --> 00:44:03,010 That can look like a lot of different things. 540 00:44:03,010 --> 00:44:05,510 We see residents will vote on libraries. 541 00:44:05,810 --> 00:44:10,210 We see them vote on right-of-way improvements, sidewalks, affordable housing. 542 00:44:10,610 --> 00:44:13,270 Things like that down payment for home ownership. 543 00:44:13,650 --> 00:44:20,310 We ask as broad a group of questions as possible so that we can get a comprehensive answer. 544 00:44:20,750 --> 00:44:26,330 For our 2428 program, the response we saw there was going to be housing and infrastructure-related. 545 00:44:26,810 --> 00:44:30,790 That will remain the case for a while, but we do the survey every year. 546 00:44:30,790 --> 00:44:35,170 the more response we get, the better we can serve our community. We'll be able to have 547 00:44:35,170 --> 00:44:40,250 handouts for these, and we've already had great help from your team posting this online 548 00:44:40,250 --> 00:44:43,090 and making it available to anyone who would like to complete it. 549 00:44:44,190 --> 00:44:49,050 And finally, here's our contact information. Yeng and I are here, so if you'd like to 550 00:44:49,050 --> 00:44:55,130 come speak to us now, we're excited to answer any questions, but also phone number, email 551 00:44:55,130 --> 00:44:59,890 our mailing address, we are located on airport down in central 552 00:45:15,740 --> 00:45:29,980 We still encourage application, but that's a great starting point to see is your community something that's in a load of moderate income area. And they're on our right. That's our application form. We say, even if you can't fill out every box, do let us know. 553 00:45:29,980 --> 00:45:35,420 know it just lets us understand there's an interest in that area which can then lead to further 554 00:45:35,420 --> 00:45:41,180 conversation. Okay that's it y'all thank you for your attention. I'm happy to answer questions 555 00:45:41,180 --> 00:45:45,660 now. Okay, Ying is going to be our expert. Thank you. Question is going to be important. 556 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:58,720 Yes I do. So on the speaking about the home rehabilitation and relative to some of our discussion 557 00:45:58,720 --> 00:46:07,740 before council meeting. A couple of questions here. You may mention about CDBG grants can 558 00:46:07,740 --> 00:46:13,160 be applied and can only be applied in areas relative if you can go back to that slide but 559 00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:20,340 it shows the criteria and it talks about the community must meet an 80% of moderate. 560 00:46:20,340 --> 00:46:28,860 All right. How is that community boundary established? And I say that because if you look 561 00:46:28,860 --> 00:46:36,620 in this area, we have areas of the South Shore of Lake Travis, where we have communities 562 00:46:36,620 --> 00:46:42,100 who could meet that, but depending upon how the boundary is established, they might not 563 00:46:42,100 --> 00:46:47,060 meet that requirement. Absolutely. So the specifics of how we look 564 00:46:47,060 --> 00:46:52,720 at zip codes, communities where those boundaries are is something that our planning manager and 565 00:46:52,720 --> 00:46:57,740 our project manager look at at a case by case basis. It is still going to have to meet that 566 00:46:57,740 --> 00:47:03,460 general requirement level for it to be applicable of the grant at a federal and at a local community 567 00:47:03,460 --> 00:47:10,220 level, but we also do try and look at specific vulnerable groups we are able to do income surveys in 568 00:47:10,220 --> 00:47:16,360 some areas. So even if at a starting level it doesn't look like a community may qualify if we're 569 00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:21,280 seeing it in an area where we do know there is a need. On paper, it might not, but we can 570 00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:25,480 look at specifically through our team to try and focus in a little bit basically. 571 00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:32,140 Can that be established by age group? Elderly, as opposed to part of being considered 572 00:47:32,140 --> 00:47:38,320 across the entire population? I believe your question is very specific to our home 573 00:47:38,320 --> 00:47:47,500 we have program. And that one, we callify based on an individual home. So any resident 574 00:47:47,500 --> 00:47:56,580 in your city that has the income lower than 80% AMI could qualify. We don't need to 575 00:47:56,580 --> 00:48:02,240 look at the block any sick court, not for the home rehab program is individual. 576 00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:08,300 But when 577 00:48:08,300 --> 00:48:14,140 improvement, we need to look at the location of the projects and we go from there. 578 00:48:16,770 --> 00:48:27,390 So can you work with directly with 501C3 type support groups and foundations and faith-based 579 00:48:27,390 --> 00:48:28,750 groups and those sort of things? 580 00:48:28,970 --> 00:48:39,210 Can you work directly with those programs in terms of identifying and providing grant 581 00:48:39,210 --> 00:48:41,670 that could support what those folks do, 582 00:48:42,370 --> 00:48:45,230 or is it project by project related, how does that? 583 00:48:45,950 --> 00:48:48,090 Right, so this program already been launched 584 00:48:48,090 --> 00:48:50,110 and we already have the program administrator. 585 00:48:51,190 --> 00:48:54,670 We have the link where the citizen resident can just go there, 586 00:48:54,870 --> 00:48:56,750 put their name, information of the address, 587 00:48:57,210 --> 00:48:58,990 and we go from there, we don't need to, 588 00:48:59,190 --> 00:49:05,970 we do not, what is it, we do not a bit some more people 589 00:49:05,970 --> 00:49:07,890 to work on the project, we already have the team 590 00:49:07,890 --> 00:49:12,570 that work on it. You just need to find a resident that qualified for it so we can help. 591 00:49:13,650 --> 00:49:17,470 So you would or you would work with those groups or you would not. 592 00:49:20,170 --> 00:49:25,850 So if you had one of these groups that had identified needs and a community of what 593 00:49:25,850 --> 00:49:31,830 you're talking about in this presentation, are you saying you would work with those groups to help support? 594 00:49:32,090 --> 00:49:35,870 We do consult with many different organizations in the county. 595 00:49:35,870 --> 00:49:42,070 They are able to tell us what those needs are often those conversations do lead to someone submitting a project proposal 596 00:49:42,070 --> 00:49:48,110 But the starting point is the application. We don't go out and look for need ourselves 597 00:49:48,110 --> 00:49:56,890 It's our residents our partners our city councils have to take the initiative to let us know what that need is and then we can look at it further 598 00:49:56,890 --> 00:50:02,790 So you could help you could work with those groups to help applications be completed and submitted 599 00:50:02,790 --> 00:50:05,430 They just have to talk to us first. Yes 600 00:50:06,310 --> 00:50:07,330 Okay, thank you. 601 00:50:07,350 --> 00:50:08,310 Is that answer your question, sir? 602 00:50:08,630 --> 00:50:09,310 Yeah, does, thank you. 603 00:50:09,610 --> 00:50:09,870 That's it. 604 00:50:10,050 --> 00:50:10,490 Thank you, Mayor. 605 00:50:11,630 --> 00:50:12,430 Councilmember Woodson. 606 00:50:12,990 --> 00:50:14,350 Yeah, just a follow-up to that, 607 00:50:14,410 --> 00:50:16,750 because I did a quick math calculation on my phone. 608 00:50:17,690 --> 00:50:19,690 This area, specifically, Lake Way, 609 00:50:19,930 --> 00:50:23,550 is 100,000 over your 80% of Travis County. 610 00:50:24,170 --> 00:50:26,890 So does that eliminate residents in the city of Lake Way? 611 00:50:27,090 --> 00:50:28,410 Just in general for it. 612 00:50:28,550 --> 00:50:31,330 I know that you said that you would potentially work 613 00:50:31,330 --> 00:50:37,410 with case-by-case basis for the housing, but what about the rest of it? 614 00:50:38,030 --> 00:50:43,430 So another thing that we, two things we like to focus on here, one is that we're going 615 00:50:43,430 --> 00:50:47,450 to have unincorporated residents that are still participating in these programs. 616 00:50:47,950 --> 00:50:50,870 Their access point to them is often through city councils. 617 00:50:51,450 --> 00:50:56,030 They are going to be paying attention to these programs and listening to information from 618 00:50:56,030 --> 00:50:56,730 you guys. 619 00:50:56,730 --> 00:51:03,810 The other really important part of that is we can do an income survey on a smaller level even if at a very broad scope 620 00:51:03,810 --> 00:51:09,330 It doesn't look like something's going to qualify when we have you know a street that as you mentioned 621 00:51:09,330 --> 00:51:15,110 There are communities here that need that kind of support. We will be on a very small level looking at how those 622 00:51:15,110 --> 00:51:22,200 Individual families qualify instead of at a broader lakeway level. Is that answer? Yes. Thank you. Thank you 623 00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:22,220 I don't know if it's a 624 00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:26,240 One of your slides at the 625 00:51:26,240 --> 00:51:27,920 beginning was very intriguing to 626 00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:29,380 me when you were showing the 627 00:51:29,380 --> 00:51:29,800 parks. 628 00:51:30,460 --> 00:51:32,000 I don't imagine city park would 629 00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:33,140 probably qualify. 630 00:51:33,940 --> 00:51:37,120 Do you have any extra giant zombie 631 00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:39,800 dinosaur heads that we could have 632 00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:41,380 possibly for our park. 633 00:51:41,620 --> 00:51:43,160 You need to because I get one and 634 00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:44,520 then you can have the second one and 635 00:51:44,520 --> 00:51:45,080 I'll let you know. 636 00:51:45,460 --> 00:51:46,680 Thank you so much. 637 00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:47,180 Absolutely. 638 00:51:47,700 --> 00:51:48,020 Okay. 639 00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:49,080 That's all the questions. 640 00:51:49,260 --> 00:51:50,000 Thank you very much. 641 00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:50,540 Thanks, y'all. 642 00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:51,000 Okay. 643 00:51:51,100 --> 00:51:52,680 Open this up for citizens' participation. 644 00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:55,020 Anyone wish to address council on this item? 645 00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:57,540 Closing citizens' participation in discussion. 646 00:51:57,700 --> 00:51:59,060 There's no council action required. 647 00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:04,600 I think we can continue to advertise this as Councilman Brittonson pointed out. 648 00:52:04,700 --> 00:52:09,640 Lakeway writ large doesn't qualify, but we have individual parts of the community. 649 00:52:10,820 --> 00:52:13,420 And certainly there are charitable organizations. 650 00:52:13,420 --> 00:52:20,200 We learned from my community service summit that would be able to identify specific areas and subordinate areas. 651 00:52:20,460 --> 00:52:28,060 So I think it's a more communications task for the city and for the community service folks to be aware of this. 652 00:52:28,220 --> 00:52:31,200 And so we'll get this information out to our community service summit. 653 00:52:31,420 --> 00:52:31,460 Okay. 654 00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:35,280 Okay. With that, we'll call item 19. 655 00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:40,540 Discussion and possible action regarding ordinance number 2026-3-16604. 656 00:52:40,540 --> 00:52:46,780 and ordinance of the city of Lakeway, Texas adopting the Lakeway 2026 comprehensive plan and providing for saving 657 00:52:46,780 --> 00:52:51,240 separability repealer and an effective date. We have a staff report from our system city manager, 658 00:52:51,900 --> 00:52:54,000 assistant city manager, Ashby, government manager. 659 00:52:54,800 --> 00:53:01,700 Thank you, Mayor Mayor Pro Tem and Council. So as mentioned, this item is an ordinance to approve the Lakeway 2026 660 00:53:01,700 --> 00:53:08,580 comprehensive plan. This item was presented to City Council in January and at that meeting, direction was given to staff to 661 00:53:08,580 --> 00:53:14,660 to reduce the plan down to 50 pages, clearly identify that the additional support materials 662 00:53:14,660 --> 00:53:19,760 were not part of the comprehensive plan document itself, take it back to the steering committee 663 00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:23,420 for a formal vote, and then bring it back to the zoning and planning commission and city 664 00:53:23,420 --> 00:53:28,000 council on March. All of those things have been done. The steering committee met February 665 00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:37,040 10th and took a vote to move the plan forward back to Zapco and council on March. Then the 666 00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:41,660 the Comprehensive Plan was written to Zapco a couple of weeks ago. Zapco voted to recommend 667 00:53:41,660 --> 00:53:47,160 approval unanimously with two changes. The first was to clarify the stories under the 668 00:53:47,160 --> 00:53:53,280 dynamic core to be as compatible to update that graphic and then the second was to remove 669 00:53:53,280 --> 00:54:00,480 the Serene Hills project from the thoroughfare plan. I do want to point out there are a couple 670 00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:03,780 members of the steering committee here tonight so I wanted to take a moment to recognize them 671 00:54:03,780 --> 00:54:07,540 I'm going to appreciate the hard work that they put in to get us to this point. 672 00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:12,620 And with that, Olivia Sullivan is here with Line Heart Places and she'll cover the plan 673 00:54:12,620 --> 00:54:14,460 and the changes in a little bit more detail. 674 00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:17,280 And that concludes my portion of the presentation. 675 00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,320 I'd be happy to answer any questions you all may have. 676 00:54:20,340 --> 00:54:21,440 Any questions for the City Manager? 677 00:54:22,700 --> 00:54:25,420 Okay, I guess you're going to summarize the couple of changes we've had? 678 00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:26,500 Yes, good evening. 679 00:54:26,820 --> 00:54:27,700 Thank you for having me. 680 00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:33,100 Yes, I'm just here to go over a few of the updates in the last meetings that we've had 681 00:54:33,100 --> 00:54:40,120 As Ash we mentioned we are here January 20th and Council agreed to send the document 682 00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:44,520 back to the steering committee for them to review it and send it and decide if they 683 00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:45,600 were going to vote to send it forward. 684 00:54:46,500 --> 00:54:50,880 So during that February 10th steering committee meeting there was a 5-0 vote to send the 685 00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:53,440 document back to ZACO with the following changes made. 686 00:54:54,700 --> 00:54:59,940 A few, this is the list of changes, the major changes that we've made is that the dynamic 687 00:54:59,940 --> 00:55:04,300 course section, we've removed the number of stories to state that they will be dependent 688 00:55:04,300 --> 00:55:07,900 on compatibility, which now says as compatible in the document. 689 00:55:09,300 --> 00:55:14,180 And organize the document to ensure that it's clearly stated that the 50-page document 690 00:55:14,180 --> 00:55:18,560 is the comprehensive plan and everything, all the appendices are supporting documentation. 691 00:55:20,460 --> 00:55:26,200 So this is the amendment to page 24 of the comprehensive plan so that it reads as compatible, 692 00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:30,920 Well, previously it said 2 to 5 stories and now it's been updated to just say as compatible. 693 00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:37,900 And then this is the strike through of the Serine Hills project from the list of potential 694 00:55:37,900 --> 00:55:42,100 projects for future consideration, which is part of the thoroughfare plan. 695 00:55:42,100 --> 00:55:45,360 So this is what ZAPCO voted to move forward to you all. 696 00:55:47,570 --> 00:55:49,170 And then these are the major documents. 697 00:55:49,390 --> 00:55:55,430 So all of the updates reflect the conditions from the City Council, steering committee and 698 00:55:55,430 --> 00:55:56,530 zoning and planning commission. 699 00:55:56,830 --> 00:56:00,130 The full comprehensive plan document is now 50 pages 700 00:56:00,510 --> 00:56:03,410 with six appendices as they're supporting documents. 701 00:56:03,710 --> 00:56:06,010 You can see in this chart here, 702 00:56:06,390 --> 00:56:09,510 the original documents versus the updated documents. 703 00:56:09,790 --> 00:56:11,750 So we've made all of the changes requested 704 00:56:11,750 --> 00:56:12,830 in all of those meetings, 705 00:56:13,150 --> 00:56:14,310 and I'm here to answer any questions. 706 00:56:15,950 --> 00:56:17,030 Okay, thank you. 707 00:56:17,910 --> 00:56:19,190 Councilor important, any questions? 708 00:56:19,650 --> 00:56:19,910 No questions? 709 00:56:20,330 --> 00:56:21,390 Councilor Brannick, any questions? 710 00:56:21,650 --> 00:56:23,930 Can I have a discussion? 711 00:56:27,810 --> 00:56:32,370 I have a question, but it also qualifies a discussion for assistance in the City of Manor's 712 00:56:32,370 --> 00:56:33,130 Salisway for Discussion. 713 00:56:34,230 --> 00:56:34,570 Thank you. 714 00:56:34,650 --> 00:56:35,350 We don't have any questions. 715 00:56:36,070 --> 00:56:40,190 Citizens participation, anyone in Chambers will suggest council on the proposed comprehensive 716 00:56:40,190 --> 00:56:40,610 plan. 717 00:56:41,690 --> 00:56:44,170 Ending citizens participation coming back up here for discussion. 718 00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:48,620 And when do we kick it off? 719 00:56:48,740 --> 00:56:54,860 I mean, I can say right off the bat, I absolutely disagree with removing the serene hills 720 00:56:54,860 --> 00:57:03,600 drive from the thoroughfare plan. This council voted to approve the payment of the Serene 721 00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:09,940 Hills HOA landscaping fees because it was on the thoroughfare plan, it was a major collector, 722 00:57:10,340 --> 00:57:14,520 and the idea was it should be treated exactly the same as Highlands Boulevard, 723 00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:21,440 and that having been done, that was sort of the deal with the HOA, and I'm greatly disappointed 724 00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:38,920 that the zoning commissioner, who is also the H.O.A. president, backdoored that change to get it out of the thoroughfare plan, binding this council and future councils and requiring them if they ever have to do any widening on Serine Hills Road to go through extraordinarily expensive engineering studies to reopen that. 725 00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:46,900 And so I find that to be not kosher and I'm going to certainly suggest that that be not an accepted item. 726 00:57:48,340 --> 00:57:54,300 other discussion points. Yes, sir. So, asking that's my question. I live in a neighborhood 727 00:57:54,300 --> 00:58:00,300 that's also affected by potential thoroughfare plan. I didn't ask for it to be removed. 728 00:58:00,620 --> 00:58:05,680 But can you go over for us and also for residents and for future councils that watch this, how 729 00:58:05,680 --> 00:58:11,140 that thoroughfare plan is used, and that it's not a rubber stamp right now like, hey, this 730 00:58:11,140 --> 00:58:15,720 council in March, 2026 said, we're going to do all these things. So, can you just give 731 00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:16,840 more context to that please? 732 00:58:17,260 --> 00:58:21,340 Yeah, so I mean, all the projects shown on the thoroughfare plan are fully conceptual 733 00:58:21,340 --> 00:58:21,780 in nature. 734 00:58:21,940 --> 00:58:22,860 They haven't been designed. 735 00:58:23,180 --> 00:58:24,480 They haven't been funded. 736 00:58:24,660 --> 00:58:28,380 They haven't been, you know, there may be right away that's necessary to acquire things 737 00:58:28,380 --> 00:58:28,720 like that. 738 00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:35,020 So it's purely a conceptual project in nature that's been identified through community feedback, 739 00:58:35,300 --> 00:58:39,500 through studies, traffic studies, and things like that to identify transportation needs within 740 00:58:39,500 --> 00:58:39,960 the community. 741 00:58:39,960 --> 00:58:44,360 One of the priorities that they outlined in the Congress of Plain was that connectivity. 742 00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:49,680 So, one of the major things that you see in your neighbor, it specifically is allowing 743 00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:53,500 for more parallel connectivity to 620 to alleviate some of that traffic concern. 744 00:58:53,680 --> 00:58:57,800 So, that's why those projects were identified, Serena Hills as a major thoroughfare identified 745 00:58:57,800 --> 00:59:03,380 on our current thoroughfare plan map was identified as a need there and that's why that's on the 746 00:59:03,380 --> 00:59:03,640 list. 747 00:59:05,060 --> 00:59:05,800 Thanks for that. 748 00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:09,080 And the thoroughfare plan also doesn't limit us to that. 749 00:59:09,080 --> 00:59:18,120 If all of a sudden we see that challenger hurts or something else needs to be updated, that could potentially be updated. 750 00:59:18,820 --> 00:59:23,140 Sure. I mean, technically you can update the thoroughfare plan at any point. 751 00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:31,720 I mean, it is a kind of a fluid document, but you want those in the plan if they're identified as a need in the community to allow for multiple reasons. 752 00:59:31,720 --> 00:59:36,680 If you want to go out for a bond, you can identify it on the third floor plan or if you want to explore funding opportunities 753 00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:42,700 You can say it's pointed out here and so there's several benefits to having things like that in the third floor plan. 754 00:59:43,180 --> 00:59:50,600 Certainly, but again, it's just not a binding plan where if we came up with like, oh this intersection wasn't on the plan, but it really needs help. 755 00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:53,780 We need to discuss it and potentially fund it. That can be done still. 756 00:59:53,860 --> 00:59:54,820 Right, it's not a binding plan. 757 00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:57,800 It's both ways, both what's included and what's not included. 758 00:59:57,960 --> 00:59:58,600 Okay, thank you. 759 01:00:00,980 --> 01:00:02,880 Other discussion comes from important points? 760 01:00:05,150 --> 01:00:32,230 No, you've covered my point. Council Member Brad. Well, I would echo your thoughts, Mayor, relative to Serene Hills and removing it from the comprehensive plan as it's presented. Whereas I understand the neighbors and the neighborhoods concerns. Serene Hills does provide a service to the entire community. 761 01:00:32,230 --> 01:00:39,210 which we as a body of council must consider and it is a thoroughfare that connects 762 01:00:39,210 --> 01:00:46,290 to city to state highway 71 is a thoroughfare that provides for emergency 763 01:00:46,290 --> 01:00:54,610 response especially once LTFR puts their fire station out in that area it also 764 01:00:54,610 --> 01:01:01,710 provides for connectivity into the interior of the city and I believe that 765 01:01:01,710 --> 01:01:09,210 string hills needs to be back on there. Now I will qualify that to also say that I would 766 01:01:09,210 --> 01:01:16,470 recommend that any improvement that we make to any street should be justified by a proper 767 01:01:16,470 --> 01:01:22,370 engineering study. And if we would get a micro simulation model in place, we would be 768 01:01:22,370 --> 01:01:28,890 very easily be able to assess the improvements that would be needed, whether it's a phased 769 01:01:28,890 --> 01:01:34,930 approach or not. So that's my thoughts on there. Thank you. Thank you. 770 01:01:35,270 --> 01:01:41,770 Councilmember Robinson. My thing that I'm just I guess I don't know I'm going to I 771 01:01:41,770 --> 01:01:47,870 won't say hang up but the whole word compatible right on in the dynamic core. 772 01:01:48,650 --> 01:01:56,090 It's just what's compatible to me is different than everyone else up here and so I just don't like 773 01:01:56,090 --> 01:01:59,290 living in the gray space and I feel like that's a gray space to me. 774 01:01:59,910 --> 01:02:02,970 Well, Council Member Sherman and I were both present at the conversation. 775 01:02:03,590 --> 01:02:07,510 The members of the Comprehensive Plan Committee were concerned that 776 01:02:07,510 --> 01:02:12,010 where I had previously said three to five stories would lead to every 777 01:02:12,010 --> 01:02:17,410 development project being proposed for five stories or more based on that. 778 01:02:17,650 --> 01:02:22,830 And so they felt like by saying as compatible with the surrounding area 779 01:02:22,830 --> 01:02:29,990 was it took away sort of the license to start at five stories and go up. And so 780 01:02:29,990 --> 01:02:36,470 that was the reason for the change. And I felt like that was, I felt like the 781 01:02:36,470 --> 01:02:40,870 Steering Plan Committee citizens who had volunteered their time were making a 782 01:02:40,870 --> 01:02:49,170 reasonable argument and putting in what they thought unanimously was a 783 01:02:49,170 --> 01:02:55,670 a rational guardrail, would you agree with my characterization or add to that? 784 01:02:56,010 --> 01:03:03,670 Yes, and Kelly, your exact thought is why we agreed to put as compatible so that if something 785 01:03:03,670 --> 01:03:09,050 comes up, no one's pointing to the number five, it's a fluid discussion up here to work it out. 786 01:03:09,590 --> 01:03:15,910 I guess maybe I should have clarified more. Maybe my thing is, is that, let's just say I'm going to say 787 01:03:15,910 --> 01:03:24,490 roundels it's you put use and they come in and because it's let me right back up on that whole 788 01:03:24,490 --> 01:03:31,130 section most everything is one to two stories technically if you would look and height right and so 789 01:03:31,130 --> 01:03:40,070 what my biggest thing is is would somebody be able to come in reinvest in a whole section and say okay I'm 790 01:03:40,070 --> 01:03:43,550 I'm going to do two, then three, three, and then four, 791 01:03:43,930 --> 01:03:44,970 and then four, and then five. 792 01:03:45,210 --> 01:03:45,630 You know what I mean? 793 01:03:45,950 --> 01:03:47,670 Like, stagger, because then at that point, 794 01:03:48,090 --> 01:03:49,670 they are compatible, right? 795 01:03:49,810 --> 01:03:52,330 If they slowly change in its higher section, 796 01:03:52,930 --> 01:03:54,450 I guess that was my biggest thing, 797 01:03:54,530 --> 01:03:56,390 because then a five is compatible. 798 01:03:57,170 --> 01:03:58,950 Because you have to have compatible, 799 01:03:59,090 --> 01:04:02,010 define notes to the architecture of the building. 800 01:04:02,630 --> 01:04:04,550 So I hear you're saying and agree like that. 801 01:04:04,690 --> 01:04:07,150 If it was defined as compatible with the neighboring heights, 802 01:04:07,470 --> 01:04:09,610 et cetera, et cetera, then I think that would come 803 01:04:09,610 --> 01:04:14,010 in the play, but it's just as compatible. So what do you think is as compatible is different 804 01:04:14,010 --> 01:04:23,310 than what I think is compatible. The recommendation was to sort of take away a starting point, 805 01:04:23,530 --> 01:04:29,070 right? Take away a fixed number and make it back on the zoning commission and the City Council 806 01:04:29,070 --> 01:04:36,570 to say whether or not we wanted that. So I would, you know, one of the examples would be, 807 01:04:36,570 --> 01:04:44,530 I can't remember when somebody came in to the HUD subcommittee and wanted to propose 808 01:04:44,530 --> 01:04:51,090 three stories behind torches overlooking what would be the new city park and we immediately 809 01:04:51,090 --> 01:04:56,030 said no that's not compatible with that but they were like we already have five stories 810 01:04:56,030 --> 01:05:02,390 there and so this I think takes away that justification it gives a lot more it gives a lot 811 01:05:02,390 --> 01:05:05,750 more authority to get to the zoning commission into the council. 812 01:05:06,250 --> 01:05:11,810 Then to have to argue, it says five in the plan, and you have five over there, so why 813 01:05:11,810 --> 01:05:12,530 can't I have six? 814 01:05:13,870 --> 01:05:14,070 Right, so. 815 01:05:14,790 --> 01:05:15,710 No, I get it. 816 01:05:15,930 --> 01:05:16,230 I get it. 817 01:05:16,570 --> 01:05:22,490 In an example, another example would be, we may be familiar with, the BDS director car 818 01:05:22,490 --> 01:05:25,070 brought up is, or that Walgreens sits, it's in a pit. 819 01:05:25,770 --> 01:05:30,230 Five stories there is much different than five stories that the shell gas station with 820 01:05:30,230 --> 01:05:31,270 the really steep driveway. 821 01:05:33,480 --> 01:05:36,240 So this is intended to be like, well, as compatible. 822 01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:39,920 Councilor Mayor Pro Temini, discussion points. 823 01:05:40,360 --> 01:05:45,060 Okay, well, first off, I understand why people would 824 01:05:45,060 --> 01:05:49,460 that live right on that street might not want to see it widened. 825 01:05:49,500 --> 01:05:51,060 But every, huh? 826 01:05:51,580 --> 01:05:52,120 Serenzo's. 827 01:05:52,300 --> 01:05:52,860 Yeah, I guess. 828 01:05:53,260 --> 01:05:53,700 Sorry. 829 01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:59,700 But every other entrance, main entrance into the city, 830 01:05:59,700 --> 01:06:04,120 And this is a main entrance, people are using it that way, and people are going to continue 831 01:06:04,120 --> 01:06:07,840 to use that way, and it's going to only increase in traffic. 832 01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:14,260 So typically, I mean, every other entrance like that has either started out as four lanes, 833 01:06:14,500 --> 01:06:16,760 or is it four lanes now? 834 01:06:16,980 --> 01:06:19,120 So having just two lanes doesn't make sense. 835 01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:26,140 It's extremely difficult to maintain if there's something that needs to be done by the 836 01:06:26,140 --> 01:06:30,320 mud or anything like that where they have to close off the lane, that road is closed. 837 01:06:31,040 --> 01:06:33,840 I mean, there's almost nothing they can do to get in and out of there. 838 01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:37,840 And that's more of a hassle for the whole city. 839 01:06:38,320 --> 01:06:43,000 Those corridors are really for everyone, not just the neighborhood that it's sitting next 840 01:06:43,000 --> 01:06:43,240 to. 841 01:06:45,680 --> 01:06:51,980 The homes that were frontings, serenials, dry, those were never supposed to be built the 842 01:06:51,980 --> 01:06:52,660 way they were built. 843 01:06:52,660 --> 01:06:58,120 But something went goofy within our internal system many years ago that allowed them to 844 01:06:58,120 --> 01:07:02,760 be built the way they are with the driveways right off of Serene Hills and that was a mistake. 845 01:07:06,080 --> 01:07:11,240 The commercial corner is going to have a big effect on traffic there as well. 846 01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:18,200 And like Kent said, the fire station being there, and I don't know if anybody has ever 847 01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:25,580 notice, if you watch when the fire trucks leave, right at Lomans Crossing and Lomans, or 848 01:07:27,400 --> 01:07:33,280 make way boulevard, it's a mess. I mean, it's just one lane right there and it's very 849 01:07:33,280 --> 01:07:39,020 difficult. If there was an accident, it would be a huge problem. And I also am somewhat concerned 850 01:07:39,020 --> 01:07:46,100 about the manner, as you mentioned, in which this came about. But more importantly than 851 01:07:46,100 --> 01:07:52,020 anything, well not more than anything, but one of the things that really bothers me, and 852 01:07:52,020 --> 01:07:59,040 I've said it up here a bunch of times, when we ask people to volunteer their time and 853 01:07:59,040 --> 01:08:06,940 spend all that time working on a project just to have it upended by somebody with a personal 854 01:08:06,940 --> 01:08:11,600 stake in it, I find that frustrating. 855 01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:22,580 I don't like to see our committees upended simply because one person representing a group of people decided to try to throw a wrench in it. 856 01:08:22,740 --> 01:08:27,760 So for that reason, I can't support the removal. 857 01:08:29,820 --> 01:08:29,920 Yeah. 858 01:08:30,560 --> 01:08:32,720 Other discussion points, Councillor Morshroom? 859 01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:38,860 Yeah, I mean we started the comprehensive plan I think back in September of 23. 860 01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:43,400 So I just I want to bring it back to the plan so it's just not that we spent two years 861 01:08:43,400 --> 01:08:48,960 talking about serene hills drive, but this is my favorite slide out of the full plan. 862 01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:52,980 So if people are looking at the plan, I don't really know where to go in it. 863 01:08:53,440 --> 01:08:58,220 This slide I think is in the early on in the plan and also the very end. 864 01:08:58,220 --> 01:09:10,420 and one of our goals as the hearing committee was to update the 2020 plan, I think I had 10 goals and we had areas that we could combine it down into here. 865 01:09:10,840 --> 01:09:27,700 So a lot of it can get confusing but I think this page, including the vision statement, really captures what we were trying to accomplish with the plan and I to appreciate all the efforts of the citizens and the staff that were involved with it because it was a very, very long process. 866 01:09:30,470 --> 01:09:35,570 I agree. It's just like page six, or I can't remember, but one more thing. Also, 867 01:09:36,110 --> 01:09:40,390 Councilor Britinson was on the plan for a few months at the beginning, so I think 868 01:09:40,390 --> 01:09:44,810 you should be at it as being recognized on that recognition slide. And I don't 869 01:09:44,810 --> 01:09:49,210 think that would need to go back to Zapco. No. No, that's fine. I forgot. I mean, I 870 01:09:49,210 --> 01:09:54,610 remember OS on there, but thank you for the recognition. Welcome. Okay, we can get 871 01:09:54,610 --> 01:09:59,230 that. Okay with that I'd accept the motion. 872 01:10:02,380 --> 01:10:04,460 I'll make a motion we move forward 873 01:10:04,460 --> 01:10:09,480 approving the comprehensive plan with the exception of the ZEPCO recommendation 874 01:10:09,480 --> 01:10:16,820 regarding serine hills. I'm sorry can you do that. You said yes to approve it 875 01:10:16,820 --> 01:10:21,120 without the supreme. Correct. We'll approve it the way it is but we're not going to 876 01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:25,540 take the recommendation to remove serine from the second that. Okay so I have a 877 01:10:25,540 --> 01:10:27,620 Is there any further discussion? 878 01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:32,160 Would that be better? 879 01:10:32,380 --> 01:10:33,120 Would that sound better? 880 01:10:33,400 --> 01:10:34,480 It's more positive. 881 01:10:35,140 --> 01:10:36,100 I like being positive. 882 01:10:36,900 --> 01:10:37,080 All right. 883 01:10:37,480 --> 01:10:40,360 Can I withdraw your second? 884 01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:41,320 I'll withdraw mine. 885 01:10:41,440 --> 01:10:42,620 I will withdraw my second. 886 01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:43,600 I'll withdraw mine. 887 01:10:43,700 --> 01:10:47,940 I'll make a motion that we approve the comprehensive plan. 888 01:10:48,540 --> 01:10:51,560 And we put back in these serene hills 889 01:10:52,940 --> 01:10:55,160 to drive on the thoroughfare plan. 890 01:10:56,200 --> 01:10:56,760 Positive. 891 01:10:56,760 --> 01:10:57,780 That way it's not double. 892 01:10:58,400 --> 01:10:59,400 Yeah, no, we like that. 893 01:11:00,160 --> 01:11:01,240 May I second that one? 894 01:11:01,580 --> 01:11:03,100 You know, I will second that one. 895 01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:03,960 Yes. 896 01:11:04,540 --> 01:11:06,540 Okay, so I have a motion in a second. 897 01:11:06,620 --> 01:11:07,580 Any further conversation? 898 01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:09,000 Councilor Brittenson, you said? 899 01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:12,360 I would like to just to address. 900 01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:14,040 I know I have a lot of supporters. 901 01:11:14,260 --> 01:11:15,520 I live in Flint, Rock Falls. 902 01:11:16,040 --> 01:11:20,560 So Serine Hill's actually, when I moved there, 903 01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:23,900 Flint, Rock was just basically a paid call path. 904 01:11:24,220 --> 01:11:26,400 I mean, it wasn't even a proper two lane road at that. 905 01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:30,080 There was no, there was like no center divided. 906 01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:32,380 Basically it was a road to nowhere. 907 01:11:32,660 --> 01:11:36,300 Serene went in, my life got up heaved, I will tell you. 908 01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:39,940 Because it became another access point to 71. 909 01:11:40,660 --> 01:11:44,860 When it was originally created, it was never meant to be a cut through. 910 01:11:45,580 --> 01:11:51,220 It is what it is, you know, just like water traffic flows with the path of lease resistance. 911 01:11:52,480 --> 01:11:59,360 My once quiet street got destroyed, which is Flint Rock, that's my main avenue. 912 01:12:00,260 --> 01:12:04,060 And I'm saying this because I'm going to vote a certain way but I wanted to address 913 01:12:04,060 --> 01:12:06,220 my supporters in a specific way. 914 01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:12,700 By me voting in favor of this in which I'm about to do doesn't mean that I support necessarily 915 01:12:12,700 --> 01:12:19,360 the widening of the road and that would be on a, I just wanted to, like I said, come out 916 01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:24,000 and specifically address my supporters. 917 01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:28,880 Now while that is not something that's going to take place anytime soon, 918 01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:32,960 because of the overall engineering of the roads in that section, 919 01:12:35,200 --> 01:12:40,180 I just felt because that is something that I've fought long and hard for prior 920 01:12:40,180 --> 01:12:45,780 to me even being on council, I felt that it was respectful of me to address my 921 01:12:45,780 --> 01:12:47,620 supporters. So thank you. 922 01:12:47,620 --> 01:12:58,600 Yeah. Okay. Thank you. Any other comments discussion? I do have one. Joseph, on page 17, we make note that a digital dashboard will be developed of the plan. 923 01:12:59,220 --> 01:13:08,160 Can you just give a real brief description and understanding that for the public to hear how we're going to deal with the plan at this point? 924 01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:15,280 Yeah, absolutely. So as we move forward, we will put together a dashboard working with our consultant who's going to build the initial draft, 925 01:13:15,280 --> 01:13:18,520 and then staff will complete and maintain it. 926 01:13:18,980 --> 01:13:21,380 And that draft is going, or that dashboard 927 01:13:21,380 --> 01:13:24,220 is going to give citizens access to the comprehensive plan. 928 01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:28,780 But it's also going to illustrated in terms of the goals 929 01:13:29,260 --> 01:13:32,120 and essentially be able to be a road mark for those goals, 930 01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:34,880 road map for those goals where they can check the status. 931 01:13:35,140 --> 01:13:39,240 So as staff works through the goals with council and the community, 932 01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:42,720 the citizens will go to that dashboard and see what's been done, 933 01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:44,480 on what still needs to be done. 934 01:13:45,080 --> 01:13:46,980 They will be able to still give us comments 935 01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:49,560 on how we're doing and give us comments 936 01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:51,280 on what they think we need to work on next. 937 01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:56,260 So it'll be an interactive location for our citizens 938 01:13:56,260 --> 01:13:57,960 to give us feedback on the cop plan 939 01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:00,600 as it's written and as we're moving forward on it. 940 01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:02,640 And we're looking forward to getting that feedback 941 01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:05,900 because that's going to help drive in five years time 942 01:14:05,900 --> 01:14:08,440 or more the next iteration of the comprehensive plan. 943 01:14:08,900 --> 01:14:11,240 So it's supposed to be a living site 944 01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:17,740 where we can share that information, they can look at the plan, they can look at our progress, and they can give us feedback on that. 945 01:14:18,760 --> 01:14:19,460 Thank you. 946 01:14:19,960 --> 01:14:20,960 Okay, anything else? 947 01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:23,960 Yes, go ahead. 948 01:14:26,900 --> 01:14:29,500 Sorry, I'm just the client. 949 01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:41,760 On the steering committee, should Logan and Josh be represented as the zoning and planning committee members? 950 01:14:43,140 --> 01:14:52,640 and then friendly suggestion is that we just recognize the citizens first and then maybe go down and have elected and staff at the end. 951 01:14:55,140 --> 01:14:59,900 And then also Scott Olson served as the chair and I know he was here in the back. 952 01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:10,640 He's not on here. Yes, he is. Just to recognize as chair of the steering committee. 953 01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:35,540 I don't think those are all technical corrections that we would describe as a script or error. I don't think they need to be included in resolution. I support nobody objects to that. Okay, so I have a motion and a second to approve the comprehensive plan as presented and to return serene hills to the thoroughfare plan. 954 01:15:36,660 --> 01:15:38,980 That's the motion the second that we've concluded discussion. 955 01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:40,360 All those in favor, please raise your hand. 956 01:15:40,440 --> 01:15:40,720 Say aye. 957 01:15:41,340 --> 01:15:41,600 Aye. 958 01:15:41,900 --> 01:15:41,960 Aye. 959 01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:42,880 All those opposed? 960 01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:44,200 Motion carries unanimously. 961 01:15:44,600 --> 01:15:44,980 Thank you very much. 962 01:15:45,100 --> 01:15:45,360 The Council. 963 01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:47,800 Item 20. 964 01:15:48,820 --> 01:15:53,580 Discussion and possible action regarding resolution number 2026-03-16-01, a resolution 965 01:15:53,580 --> 01:15:57,060 of the City of Lakeway, Texas, establishing and appointing members of the view protection 966 01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:01,300 conditional overlay, VPCO, Committee of Staff Report, by me. 967 01:16:01,300 --> 01:16:22,900 So we had the task presented to us at the last meeting that we were going to create a citizens committee to help the city members staff and to find a way to improve the current VPCO ordinance. 968 01:16:23,900 --> 01:16:29,100 each member of council was asked to name a member, everyone is named a member. 969 01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:33,200 Councilor Fortin's member was not published as Mr. Troy Dunson. 970 01:16:35,020 --> 01:16:39,520 Zapco was asked to name two volunteers, only two volunteers came forward. 971 01:16:39,900 --> 01:16:43,780 Council was asked to name two volunteers, only two volunteers came forward. 972 01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:50,200 We don't know the fiscal impact because the committee, as you can see in the underlined resolution, 973 01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:53,520 has the authority to request additional legal assistance in 974 01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:57,120 Tope and drafting or doing a new one. Does anyone have a 975 01:16:57,120 --> 01:17:00,200 question for me on the resolution and the formation of the 976 01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:00,500 committee? 977 01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:04,920 Councillor Bragg? Mayor Proton. Questions? 978 01:17:05,820 --> 01:17:09,780 I don't see one for Christopher. I said that he did not publishes but it's Mr. 979 01:17:09,860 --> 01:17:13,060 Troy Duncett. Oh, I'm sorry. I didn't realize that we received a 980 01:17:13,060 --> 01:17:16,680 circulatory email from the city secretary updating us on that. 981 01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:21,660 No questions. Well, they're because this is great. Yes, they will be discussion. Look at this screen. 982 01:17:22,220 --> 01:17:23,860 Councilmember Sherman on 983 01:17:25,910 --> 01:17:28,010 the city council nominees. I don't 984 01:17:28,670 --> 01:17:34,370 Were we supposed to send in if we were interested? I thought I was just sending in the people are nominee are nominees 985 01:17:35,030 --> 01:17:41,710 Well, we we're going to ask for volunteers. We said two words. We need two city council volunteers. I thought we were doing it tonight though 986 01:17:42,230 --> 01:17:44,130 Okay, did you want a volunteer for two months? 987 01:17:44,130 --> 01:17:47,110 Well, I'll never turn down a task. 988 01:17:47,530 --> 01:17:51,090 But I just, this is a point of clarification. 989 01:17:51,910 --> 01:17:53,510 I thought I was going to be decided tonight. 990 01:17:55,310 --> 01:17:58,510 I actually agree with Council Member Sherman. 991 01:17:58,730 --> 01:18:01,650 I thought we would be picking that as long as all of us. 992 01:18:02,570 --> 01:18:02,930 Yes. 993 01:18:04,110 --> 01:18:05,610 There's glass breaking somewhere. 994 01:18:06,470 --> 01:18:06,930 Well, that's OK. 995 01:18:07,070 --> 01:18:10,870 When we come to the discussion, you can move to either join. 996 01:18:10,970 --> 01:18:13,010 And then we can have a discussion as to who the two city 997 01:18:13,010 --> 01:18:14,350 Council members are. Okay. 998 01:18:17,130 --> 01:18:21,590 No questions? Okay. Open it up for citizens participation and 999 01:18:21,590 --> 01:18:25,810 when you address council on this, closing citizens participation come back for discussion. 1000 01:18:29,920 --> 01:18:32,020 I have a couple. I can kick off this. Okay. 1001 01:18:35,000 --> 01:18:36,920 The resolution. 1002 01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:42,980 I like to discuss removing 1003 01:18:42,980 --> 01:18:49,960 the fourth and fifth paragraph so that we would go from whereas state of Lakeway previously adopted 1004 01:18:49,960 --> 01:18:55,560 to the VPCO and then it'll jump down to the City Council's desire to create a committee 1005 01:18:55,560 --> 01:19:03,400 to analyze the issues related. I'm not comfortable having so many other specific items here that 1006 01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:12,460 seem redundant, whereas I think it's captured by to analyze issues. That doesn't put us in 1007 01:19:12,460 --> 01:19:18,800 one specific scenario. And I think it still gets it done. I guess I'll be a question 1008 01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:24,800 also for Coby. Would this resolution be fine if we remove the fourth whereas paragraph 1009 01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:26,320 and the fifth whereas paragraph? 1010 01:19:38,150 --> 01:19:42,070 I don't know that they're necessary. They may and this 1011 01:19:42,070 --> 01:19:46,430 may be your issue sort of direct the focus of what the committee's supposed to work on. 1012 01:19:46,430 --> 01:19:52,930 And so if you want it to be broader, you know, what you're suggesting makes sense. 1013 01:19:54,410 --> 01:20:01,490 But if it's the goal of the resolution is to say look at these issues and this is sort of defining those issues. 1014 01:20:03,150 --> 01:20:12,690 Then potentially expanding that to include aware as that would be a risk of a legal challenge if it was removed. 1015 01:20:12,690 --> 01:20:17,050 We've to diluted so much that then people who have been operating under the VPCO and 1016 01:20:17,050 --> 01:20:21,570 being in compliance with it, bought their homes under the standing that staff has told 1017 01:20:21,570 --> 01:20:25,990 them, oh, you're in a VPCO, et cetera, et cetera, I think then we should have both of those 1018 01:20:25,990 --> 01:20:28,250 scenarios listed as a potential issue. 1019 01:20:31,510 --> 01:20:32,570 That would be fine too. 1020 01:20:32,870 --> 01:20:36,890 I mean, ultimately, I don't know if the whereas clauses of the resolution should be making 1021 01:20:36,890 --> 01:20:37,650 legal conclusions. 1022 01:20:38,110 --> 01:20:44,870 So we would need to be crafted in a conditional sense or a, because I don't know if the committee 1023 01:20:44,870 --> 01:20:47,610 He's going to be answering the question of whether it's- 1024 01:20:47,610 --> 01:20:53,390 Well, what if you then just remove the fourth one and left the fifth one, would that be enough guidance issues 1025 01:20:53,390 --> 01:20:56,370 related to legality and forcibility, policy, and potential amendments? 1026 01:20:57,230 --> 01:20:58,610 I think that that would work. 1027 01:20:59,950 --> 01:21:04,790 So I'd turn that over to Council for a discussion about removing the fourth wear as paragraph. 1028 01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:16,120 Well, do you think that the paragraph is not true? 1029 01:21:16,120 --> 01:21:16,820 I 1030 01:21:22,680 --> 01:21:28,860 think that this resolution can get it done and have a successful VPCO committee without 1031 01:21:28,860 --> 01:21:29,640 that paragraph. 1032 01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:32,800 And then I would question you could go the other way as well. 1033 01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:38,080 People that have, I mean, we've had people speak up here as that they've retained attorneys 1034 01:21:38,080 --> 01:21:42,920 just under the concern about removing or repealing the VPCO. 1035 01:21:49,570 --> 01:21:54,390 Having that removed mayor and you still have the one below it, including issues ready to 1036 01:21:54,390 --> 01:21:57,030 legality, wouldn't that cover us both ways? 1037 01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:06,480 Or any other council member, if they wish? 1038 01:22:06,520 --> 01:22:10,700 Well, I mean, my position is, I think, the language, 1039 01:22:11,060 --> 01:22:18,000 the critical task is to resolve the vague language. 1040 01:22:18,940 --> 01:22:22,240 And removing that word is problematic. 1041 01:22:23,740 --> 01:22:27,020 Because that is the crux of the legal position, 1042 01:22:27,020 --> 01:22:31,140 is that the current ordinance is vague. 1043 01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:33,240 We do not know what a view is. 1044 01:22:33,980 --> 01:22:35,580 We don't know what an obstruction is. 1045 01:22:35,980 --> 01:22:37,460 We don't know what unreasonable is. 1046 01:22:41,170 --> 01:22:46,290 You could put any issues related to the gallery, comma vague language, comma enforceability. 1047 01:22:46,650 --> 01:22:51,750 As long as the vague language is included in the fifth one, then the fourth one could be eliminated. 1048 01:22:52,390 --> 01:22:55,770 But the fourth one is there because that's the crux to the issue. 1049 01:22:57,770 --> 01:23:03,170 I don't have a concern with just having vague language added to the fifth one or moving forth. 1050 01:23:04,970 --> 01:23:06,130 I can go along with that. 1051 01:23:06,550 --> 01:23:07,210 I don't support that. 1052 01:23:08,250 --> 01:23:09,030 Council member Brian. 1053 01:23:09,770 --> 01:23:10,490 I'm good with that. 1054 01:23:10,590 --> 01:23:11,350 I think it's fine to wait. 1055 01:23:11,570 --> 01:23:12,350 But I'm okay with that. 1056 01:23:12,350 --> 01:23:12,910 I mean, I can go. 1057 01:23:12,990 --> 01:23:14,210 I can live with it or the changer. 1058 01:23:14,430 --> 01:23:21,410 I mean, if that makes you more comfortable, sir, then we can make that change and eliminate four and go to vague language. 1059 01:23:21,690 --> 01:23:22,590 Language in five. 1060 01:23:23,150 --> 01:23:23,270 Okay. 1061 01:23:25,650 --> 01:23:32,590 Second discussion under Section 2F, the committee shall select a secretary to keep record 1062 01:23:32,590 --> 01:23:34,190 of the attendance and minutes reach meeting. 1063 01:23:36,650 --> 01:23:42,930 That effectively removes a person from being like participating. 1064 01:23:43,810 --> 01:23:47,750 These meetings like they just, there's a lot of discussion in that person who's in sitting 1065 01:23:47,750 --> 01:23:52,990 there taking notes and whatever, I friendly suggestion to be if the city secretary could 1066 01:23:52,990 --> 01:23:55,430 to be a vat role for these meetings. 1067 01:23:58,620 --> 01:24:01,800 City manager, can we support that with staff 1068 01:24:01,800 --> 01:24:04,320 of either the city secretary, the executive assistant? 1069 01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:07,440 I think part of the point of that was to help relieve 1070 01:24:07,440 --> 01:24:09,740 the duty on the staff because we're already 1071 01:24:09,740 --> 01:24:12,080 all there a bunch of committees and commissions, 1072 01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:13,360 but if that's the will of the council, 1073 01:24:13,500 --> 01:24:14,500 we can certainly do that. 1074 01:24:15,160 --> 01:24:17,440 The other argument is that gives the committee 1075 01:24:18,020 --> 01:24:19,360 kind of skin in the game. 1076 01:24:20,020 --> 01:24:23,360 One of the things we've noticed is that this is going 1077 01:24:23,360 --> 01:24:31,320 going to be a very involved process and we want to be able to encourage committee members 1078 01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:36,900 to attend these meetings regularly, which doesn't always happen and this is also one 1079 01:24:36,900 --> 01:24:41,720 of those lessons learned from the comprehensive plan you're all aware that we heard comments 1080 01:24:41,720 --> 01:24:46,900 from some of the comprehensive plan steering committee members that they felt they weren't 1081 01:24:46,900 --> 01:24:51,920 as involved in the process as they could have been so this was a suggestion by staff to get 1082 01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:58,020 that involvement, but again we have no problem having somebody else take care of that as well. 1083 01:24:58,480 --> 01:25:02,820 It was just an idea to try to resolve some of the issues that we saw with the comprehensive 1084 01:25:02,820 --> 01:25:03,240 plan. 1085 01:25:05,820 --> 01:25:06,640 I understand that. 1086 01:25:06,860 --> 01:25:15,200 I think one, our city of secretaries, I think that person being just an independent, not 1087 01:25:15,200 --> 01:25:21,180 part of the committee would be beneficial, not to mention a professional at it. 1088 01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:29,900 So what if we had just outside the box an AI note taker I mean there's tons of apps 1089 01:25:29,900 --> 01:25:34,560 out there I mean we can get them for free and then just do an AI note summary of the 1090 01:25:34,560 --> 01:25:38,580 meeting and I mean most of the time is better than I know anybody is going to put down 1091 01:25:38,580 --> 01:25:44,340 anyways because I know what I'm taking notes I can't read what I wrote later on and at least 1092 01:25:44,340 --> 01:25:49,800 AI would all be printed out and all be categorized and broken down into sections and it's just 1093 01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:50,240 Just an option. 1094 01:25:50,440 --> 01:25:51,500 I agree those work great. 1095 01:25:51,660 --> 01:25:54,460 I don't know if you want to lot something like that with something that's sensitive. 1096 01:25:55,420 --> 01:25:59,520 And to further, Councilmember Sherman's point, we've already had discussions with our city 1097 01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:07,040 attorney about probably not having AIs taking notes when we're having attorney client confidential 1098 01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:10,680 discussions or legal discussions in general. 1099 01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:14,600 And so, yeah, it would be my recommendation that we have a person do that. 1100 01:26:14,620 --> 01:26:17,800 That can make the choices on what to dictate in the city. 1101 01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:24,180 Once you are talking about drafting an ordinance and considering if there are any past issues, 1102 01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:31,440 then I think you want minutes to be sort of 30,000 foot minutes, not detailed transcriptions 1103 01:26:31,440 --> 01:26:32,260 of every sidebar. 1104 01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:32,680 Right. 1105 01:26:32,820 --> 01:26:33,180 I got you. 1106 01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:37,080 Just outside the box, I was thinking trying to alleviate some additional work. 1107 01:26:37,620 --> 01:26:38,880 I think sorry. 1108 01:26:39,320 --> 01:26:39,880 You go ahead. 1109 01:26:40,020 --> 01:26:40,360 I was late. 1110 01:26:40,520 --> 01:26:47,680 I think the concept of having a committee member will also create some flexibility on times 1111 01:26:47,680 --> 01:26:55,020 for the committee to meet, if we're expecting a city secretary to sit in or another staff member 1112 01:26:55,020 --> 01:27:00,980 to sit in, we may be finding ourselves having committee meetings at this hour or the evening, 1113 01:27:01,540 --> 01:27:07,620 just due to work schedules. And I think if we have a committee member who is doing that, 1114 01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:16,140 and maybe it's a subcommittee, if you will, that helps develop the notes and put them together. 1115 01:27:16,140 --> 01:27:16,520 Okay. 1116 01:27:18,650 --> 01:27:22,350 So, like, Councilmember Sherman, I think you're the only person advocating for this. 1117 01:27:22,410 --> 01:27:23,330 Yeah, I'm going to put out there. 1118 01:27:23,650 --> 01:27:23,850 That's fine. 1119 01:27:24,150 --> 01:27:26,150 Okay. Do you have another point on the resolution? 1120 01:27:27,110 --> 01:27:27,190 No. 1121 01:27:28,370 --> 01:27:28,730 Okay. 1122 01:27:29,150 --> 01:27:29,950 Did you want to revisit? 1123 01:27:30,750 --> 01:27:32,350 Councilmember Brian and I step forward. 1124 01:27:32,710 --> 01:27:34,270 Does anybody else want to be on the committee? 1125 01:27:35,010 --> 01:27:36,250 You never got to me. 1126 01:27:37,390 --> 01:27:40,970 Well, I kind of figured with your job, you weren't going to pick up another point. 1127 01:27:41,030 --> 01:27:44,690 No, I'm not asking to be on it, but I have a couple of points that 1128 01:27:44,690 --> 01:27:54,270 But just because, I mean, taking the charter review committee into consideration, not having 1129 01:27:54,270 --> 01:28:00,370 somebody taking notes was a mess because we didn't, I mean, we had a really bad problem 1130 01:28:00,370 --> 01:28:01,950 with people not showing up. 1131 01:28:02,110 --> 01:28:06,270 There was one person that didn't show up for half of the meetings. 1132 01:28:06,270 --> 01:28:10,870 We had others that showed up for about 40 percent. 1133 01:28:11,210 --> 01:28:19,590 Nobody, at least everyone except myself Joseph and Kaby, missed at least two meetings. 1134 01:28:20,230 --> 01:28:27,210 So I think having the record of what we talked about is very important and who attended 1135 01:28:27,210 --> 01:28:28,390 is very important. 1136 01:28:28,590 --> 01:28:32,390 So I don't care how it gets done, but it has to get done. 1137 01:28:32,850 --> 01:28:34,130 I have one more suggestion. 1138 01:28:34,130 --> 01:28:34,210 question? 1139 01:28:34,990 --> 01:28:41,530 No, they're outside the box, but what if it alternated between members on the committee, 1140 01:28:42,210 --> 01:28:47,590 each person turns taking notes at each meeting, so that way, one person isn't pigeonholed 1141 01:28:47,590 --> 01:28:51,350 and do it every time they, you know, they deal with it and it moves on to the next person. 1142 01:28:52,010 --> 01:28:56,170 People have a vested interest in being there because, you know, they have to be the one 1143 01:28:56,170 --> 01:28:56,810 taking the notes. 1144 01:28:56,950 --> 01:29:03,270 It also doesn't push it on to one person, each person continues to do it. 1145 01:29:03,270 --> 01:29:08,570 That's okay, but I think it would be tough on consistency of how the notes are taken. 1146 01:29:08,690 --> 01:29:13,050 And they're just notes it's 30,000, I mean, you're right, it's going to be different every time, but at the end of it. 1147 01:29:13,410 --> 01:29:15,190 And I can't read what Gretchen writes. 1148 01:29:15,910 --> 01:29:16,930 Hopefully she could write it out. 1149 01:29:18,090 --> 01:29:29,670 I just figured it would be another way of taking it off of staff's hands and also to Council Member Sherman's concern of putting one person in charge of it. 1150 01:29:29,670 --> 01:29:33,770 under secretary, we could make it potentially pluralized. 1151 01:29:34,210 --> 01:29:34,570 Secretary? 1152 01:29:35,570 --> 01:29:35,730 Yeah. 1153 01:29:36,010 --> 01:29:41,010 To handle it so that it can rotate or if the secretary has to mis-meeting an alternate, 1154 01:29:41,010 --> 01:29:41,610 it can be there. 1155 01:29:42,010 --> 01:29:42,370 Yeah. 1156 01:29:42,590 --> 01:29:43,370 I like that idea. 1157 01:29:43,570 --> 01:29:43,970 So in that way. 1158 01:29:44,470 --> 01:29:49,070 And maybe let the committee also decide if they determine, hey, we'd like an independent secretary 1159 01:29:49,070 --> 01:29:49,890 and then they can. 1160 01:29:50,410 --> 01:29:53,390 I mean, we're not asking, I know it's off hours. 1161 01:29:53,570 --> 01:29:55,570 I appreciate the sensitivity to that. 1162 01:29:55,690 --> 01:29:57,190 If it's off hours, it might be during the day. 1163 01:29:57,190 --> 01:29:59,970 Okay, I don't think most people can... 1164 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:06,680 I can make during the day. I talked to several people, every one of them wanted it in the evenings. Okay. 1165 01:30:09,220 --> 01:30:19,900 So we have, we have some functions that occur outside of normal business hours. So I mean, I, I, I hear you on the staff. I would hope we're paying for that appropriately, of course. Are you on this committee? 1166 01:30:22,240 --> 01:30:30,980 Yes, I think I'm. Oh, your name's not mentioned anywhere in here. That's because the staff members are not there. I would be. 1167 01:30:30,980 --> 01:30:36,820 very happy if Joseph took the notes and I'm sure he wouldn't put a personal 1168 01:30:36,820 --> 01:30:44,700 spin on anything. The going on beyond that though can I bring up a different 1169 01:30:44,700 --> 01:30:51,920 issue? It's discussion. Okay the other thing that is there any way that we can 1170 01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:57,460 make minimum attendance required? It's everything. If you missed three meetings 1171 01:30:57,460 --> 01:31:02,260 you're off the committee. Oh, good, good, good. All right. So same, same rule for council. 1172 01:31:02,840 --> 01:31:07,940 We set that bar after the last one about the non-attendance. Yeah, that was said. It's a one-year 1173 01:31:07,940 --> 01:31:14,500 appointment. If you can't get to three meetings, you're off. And with regard to, okay, and don't take 1174 01:31:14,500 --> 01:31:23,700 this too personally. But you and San Giv as a chair, and you still being on the committee, I think 1175 01:31:23,700 --> 01:31:32,160 is going to be a very difficult thing. I mean, if you understand, you're welcome to type a very strong 1176 01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:37,980 personal one. But it's not type. He's the chair. Yeah, but it's just like, will he be the chair? 1177 01:31:38,180 --> 01:31:42,960 Will be the chair, because otherwise he wouldn't do it. And he's Councilor Sherman sat with me on 1178 01:31:42,960 --> 01:31:48,340 Comprehensive Plan Committee. Did I act as the chair or mayor on comprehensive, on the comprehensive plan? 1179 01:31:50,300 --> 01:31:54,980 Well, you came in towards the end, but is that what you're on the aviation committee? 1180 01:31:56,480 --> 01:31:56,880 No. 1181 01:31:59,180 --> 01:32:02,600 But you seem very passionate about this one, so I would just not say that. 1182 01:32:02,660 --> 01:32:04,940 I don't think I'm any more passionate about this than I was aviation. 1183 01:32:05,640 --> 01:32:12,220 I think this, well, it's been put out there now for the record to mind your piece, okay? 1184 01:32:13,580 --> 01:32:17,760 So I don't have an issue with either you or Kent. 1185 01:32:17,760 --> 01:32:27,240 I just think that we would as a group because I don't think we put in there that the Mayor shall assign the City Council representatives. 1186 01:32:28,300 --> 01:32:32,240 But so I mean I'm just curious that anybody else want to be on this committee. 1187 01:32:32,540 --> 01:32:34,100 I think we were all asked yes. 1188 01:32:35,500 --> 01:32:39,040 I did ask Kelly if she wanted to take another committee assignment on. 1189 01:32:39,540 --> 01:32:40,380 And I'm full. 1190 01:32:40,780 --> 01:32:41,740 And she said right. 1191 01:32:41,940 --> 01:32:43,040 She was currently busy. 1192 01:32:43,480 --> 01:32:44,960 I know Christopher's job. 1193 01:32:45,540 --> 01:32:49,720 He's yeah, he's not a bill and I'm not and you're not so and the other two 1194 01:32:49,720 --> 01:32:53,120 That was the process of the limited two council members are stepping off 1195 01:32:53,120 --> 01:33:00,500 So I mean it wasn't like it's like we have five candidates and there are three no's which means the two who said yes or the two available 1196 01:33:01,220 --> 01:33:01,620 Okay 1197 01:33:01,620 --> 01:33:09,740 Okay, there's exactly the same thing on Zapco because they they had their members of Zapco and they're only two available to say yes 1198 01:33:09,740 --> 01:33:13,760 How many total meetings do you think this will be roughly and are you can't say that? 1199 01:33:16,520 --> 01:33:20,800 When it's yeah, thanks that that ties it all down 1200 01:33:21,140 --> 01:33:27,300 All right, they'll probably have three or four meetings before they have to report back in June at the first report date 1201 01:33:27,300 --> 01:33:32,640 Okay, and how often will these meetings occur? I'm just thinking of the people that we have 1202 01:33:33,220 --> 01:33:34,120 nominated and 1203 01:33:35,260 --> 01:33:38,540 Or they're gonna decide that I think they'll have to decide that all right. 1204 01:33:40,580 --> 01:33:43,700 I would raise my hand even though serving I have two more months 1205 01:33:43,700 --> 01:33:45,080 But that is two more months, but 1206 01:33:45,080 --> 01:33:47,620 But, yeah, so be it. 1207 01:33:47,700 --> 01:33:47,760 Okay. 1208 01:33:49,200 --> 01:33:50,180 Any further discussion? 1209 01:33:50,860 --> 01:33:50,960 Yes. 1210 01:33:51,580 --> 01:33:55,120 I found just a slight typo that I would like corrected. 1211 01:33:55,700 --> 01:33:58,060 Page three, under Lakeway Residence, 1212 01:33:58,300 --> 01:34:01,920 there's an extra colon under five. 1213 01:34:02,500 --> 01:34:03,760 Council member O'Brien. 1214 01:34:05,500 --> 01:34:06,660 Between council member and O'Brien. 1215 01:34:07,360 --> 01:34:08,140 Just something minor. 1216 01:34:08,620 --> 01:34:10,880 It is, but I wanted to clean down. 1217 01:34:10,880 --> 01:34:11,760 An extra colon? 1218 01:34:12,320 --> 01:34:12,560 Yes. 1219 01:34:14,940 --> 01:34:16,240 It should, it's a colon. 1220 01:34:16,240 --> 01:34:18,400 currently reads Council member Colin O'Brien-Colin. 1221 01:34:19,000 --> 01:34:19,760 No, excuse me, healthy. 1222 01:34:21,160 --> 01:34:22,620 I'll do that to somebody who made the joke. 1223 01:34:22,900 --> 01:34:23,040 Yeah. 1224 01:34:25,180 --> 01:34:25,700 Okay. 1225 01:34:25,980 --> 01:34:26,660 Moving right along. 1226 01:34:27,120 --> 01:34:28,300 Any other discussion points? 1227 01:34:29,320 --> 01:34:30,300 I'll undertake a motion. 1228 01:34:31,420 --> 01:34:34,900 I'll make a motion that we approve the B.P.C.O. committee 1229 01:34:34,900 --> 01:34:36,300 and nominees as presented. 1230 01:34:36,860 --> 01:34:37,260 I'll second. 1231 01:34:37,960 --> 01:34:38,360 Oh, wait. 1232 01:34:39,060 --> 01:34:42,840 And with the clerical modifications. 1233 01:34:44,060 --> 01:34:44,260 Yes. 1234 01:34:44,260 --> 01:34:51,460 Yes, with the clerical modifications of opening up the secretary to a plural setting. 1235 01:34:52,220 --> 01:34:52,280 Okay. 1236 01:34:53,260 --> 01:34:59,640 Were you going to change the, remove the form, put the vague language into number five? 1237 01:35:00,120 --> 01:35:00,840 Does that what you wanted? 1238 01:35:01,280 --> 01:35:03,180 I think if you, can we restate your name? 1239 01:35:03,180 --> 01:35:04,100 Yeah, let me restate that. 1240 01:35:04,100 --> 01:35:04,380 Okay. 1241 01:35:04,500 --> 01:35:05,280 Is that what you were saying? 1242 01:35:05,640 --> 01:35:09,260 Accept it with the, with the modifications. 1243 01:35:09,260 --> 01:35:15,260 Whereas, you don't have to say all this, just with the editorial, that was the intent. 1244 01:35:15,620 --> 01:35:20,620 But if the edit, with the edit, so I'll make a motion, we approve the VPCO committee nominees 1245 01:35:21,440 --> 01:35:28,800 as presented with corrections to the resolution that removes the paragraph number four, 1246 01:35:29,940 --> 01:35:35,640 and adds vague language into five and changes secretary to plural. 1247 01:35:36,920 --> 01:35:37,480 That can. 1248 01:35:38,280 --> 01:35:38,380 Okay. 1249 01:35:38,740 --> 01:35:39,540 Did I capture that? 1250 01:35:39,740 --> 01:35:40,000 You did. 1251 01:35:40,140 --> 01:35:40,780 That's fine. 1252 01:35:41,080 --> 01:35:41,400 Thank you. 1253 01:35:42,640 --> 01:35:43,520 Any further comments? 1254 01:35:44,280 --> 01:35:44,980 All those in favour? 1255 01:35:45,180 --> 01:35:45,660 Please raise your hand. 1256 01:35:45,680 --> 01:35:45,960 Say aye. 1257 01:35:46,620 --> 01:35:46,760 Aye. 1258 01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:47,420 All those opposed. 1259 01:35:47,900 --> 01:35:48,760 Motion carries unanimously. 1260 01:35:48,960 --> 01:35:49,560 Thank you, Councillors. 1261 01:35:50,640 --> 01:35:50,800 Yes. 1262 01:35:51,340 --> 01:35:53,860 The time is 8.08 p.m. 1263 01:35:54,160 --> 01:35:55,680 We will recess for 10 minutes. 1264 01:36:01,280 --> 01:36:02,200 Good evening, everyone. 1265 01:36:02,600 --> 01:36:03,540 The time is 8.18. 1266 01:36:03,760 --> 01:36:05,560 Council has returned to the dius on time. 1267 01:36:06,220 --> 01:36:07,540 And we're very pleased by that. 1268 01:36:07,720 --> 01:36:08,400 It's a rare occurrence. 1269 01:36:08,400 --> 01:36:17,080 So the meeting, the forum is re-established with six members, the meeting is called back to order and we're moving on to item 21, discussion, 1270 01:36:17,320 --> 01:36:27,580 possible action regarding ordinance number 2026-03-16-05 in order to the city of Lakeway, Texas, regarding Tuscan Village Plan Unit Development Amendment number 9, 1271 01:36:27,580 --> 01:36:32,820 in ordinance amending the City of Lakeway, ordinance number 2008-04-21-04, 1272 01:36:33,320 --> 01:36:39,160 Tuscan Village Plan Unit Development, PUD, approximately 17.462 acres of land, 1273 01:36:39,280 --> 01:36:42,760 comprising Section 2 of Tuscan Village, PUD, for multi-family housing, 1274 01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:45,520 and cottages located at Lohman's Spur, and Lohman's Crossing Road, 1275 01:36:46,120 --> 01:36:50,000 a lot for Lakeway mud E5 tank phase 2, and providing forward findings of fax, 1276 01:36:50,000 --> 01:36:52,840 severability repealer, effective date, and proper notice and meetings. 1277 01:36:53,120 --> 01:36:57,120 So we have gotten to the portion of the evening, which is the air and car show. 1278 01:36:57,120 --> 01:36:58,560 So welcome Director Carr. 1279 01:36:58,940 --> 01:37:04,580 Thank you Mr. Mayor. Mayor Pro Tem Council. I'm going to be quick tonight. Mine are going 1280 01:37:04,580 --> 01:37:09,400 to be so easy that y'all are going to be like looking at your clocks, that your watch is going, 1281 01:37:09,580 --> 01:37:18,500 woohoo. So this one, Tuscan Village Section 2 PUD was approved back in 2008 and this is amendment 1282 01:37:18,500 --> 01:37:24,980 number nine. The only request, the developer of the cottages, which is 1283 01:37:24,980 --> 01:37:29,960 personal, I can get the pointer to work, there we go, which is personal see 1284 01:37:29,960 --> 01:37:39,120 here, is to go from 21 attached units to 23 detached, so they'll be single 1285 01:37:39,120 --> 01:37:47,880 family detached units. They're surrounded by mixed use and commercial, there's 1286 01:37:47,880 --> 01:37:52,380 the GUI across the street, as far as the library goes. 1287 01:37:53,200 --> 01:37:55,120 And this is the section here. 1288 01:37:56,280 --> 01:37:58,960 A little pointer thing isn't it, there we go. 1289 01:37:59,480 --> 01:38:00,780 This is the section here, 1290 01:38:01,600 --> 01:38:06,160 and this is the approved site plan 1291 01:38:06,160 --> 01:38:09,120 and this was provided in your packets as well, 1292 01:38:09,640 --> 01:38:14,220 but this is what they're asking to revise to. 1293 01:38:14,880 --> 01:38:20,420 And Bill Hayes, and this is the only ask for this amendment, so there are not any other 1294 01:38:20,420 --> 01:38:29,420 asks except this one, and Bill Hayes with WHOV1 is here, and he can answer any questions 1295 01:38:29,420 --> 01:38:30,100 all may have. 1296 01:38:31,840 --> 01:38:35,080 And ZAPCA recommended approval 7-0 unanimously. 1297 01:38:35,620 --> 01:38:36,400 Thank you, Director Carr. 1298 01:38:36,740 --> 01:38:37,780 Any questions for Director Carr? 1299 01:38:39,260 --> 01:38:39,460 No. 1300 01:38:39,900 --> 01:38:40,120 Okay. 1301 01:38:40,220 --> 01:38:40,460 Thank you. 1302 01:38:41,320 --> 01:38:43,500 Does the applicant have a quick question for the area? 1303 01:38:44,540 --> 01:38:46,260 These would doplexes. 1304 01:38:46,540 --> 01:38:50,880 When you say they were all connected, they weren't like one long. 1305 01:38:51,120 --> 01:38:51,480 Correct. 1306 01:38:52,220 --> 01:38:53,660 Either doplexes or triplexes. 1307 01:38:53,700 --> 01:38:55,240 I think you have two triplexes. 1308 01:38:55,580 --> 01:38:57,660 One triplex and then the rest doplexes. 1309 01:38:58,240 --> 01:38:58,260 Okay. 1310 01:38:58,880 --> 01:39:01,240 So this will be just single family. 1311 01:39:03,620 --> 01:39:07,320 And there were questions about parking and things like that. 1312 01:39:07,320 --> 01:39:15,100 But there are garages on these homes that will hold two cars and then the driveway 1313 01:39:15,100 --> 01:39:19,340 lengths will be long enough to have two cars in the driveway lengths also, so-for. 1314 01:39:19,880 --> 01:39:20,040 Thank you. 1315 01:39:22,620 --> 01:39:23,200 Anything else? 1316 01:39:24,640 --> 01:39:26,320 Mr. Hayes, do you have anything you wish to say? 1317 01:39:27,220 --> 01:39:27,980 I mean, it's pretty straightforward. 1318 01:39:28,860 --> 01:39:30,760 I have a question. 1319 01:39:30,920 --> 01:39:31,280 I have a question. 1320 01:39:31,820 --> 01:39:31,980 Okay. 1321 01:39:32,080 --> 01:39:32,920 So we have some questions, then. 1322 01:39:33,220 --> 01:39:33,340 Okay. 1323 01:39:34,360 --> 01:39:35,140 Councilmember Sherman? 1324 01:39:35,920 --> 01:39:42,360 So what was the old height that you were planning on and does that change with the new? 1325 01:39:43,100 --> 01:39:57,980 Yeah, great question. Thank you. So originally we had, very originally it was 32 feet and then as part of one of the revisions to the overall plan, we did get the approval to go to 40 feet if necessary. 1326 01:39:58,960 --> 01:40:04,800 The previous version with the duplex and the triplex contemplated three story units. 1327 01:40:06,260 --> 01:40:11,080 This version we are spreading them out and we're going to sacrifice a little bit back yard 1328 01:40:11,080 --> 01:40:14,240 space to have a little bit bigger footprint but we're going to two story units. 1329 01:40:15,140 --> 01:40:21,100 So it'll follow more of the 32 foot standard Lakeway height versus the 40 foot that it was 1330 01:40:21,620 --> 01:40:21,920 previously. 1331 01:40:21,920 --> 01:40:22,060 That's absolutely. 1332 01:40:23,860 --> 01:40:24,980 Director Carr, is that correct? 1333 01:40:25,120 --> 01:40:26,640 It's set to 40 feet right now? 1334 01:40:27,340 --> 01:40:29,360 Or does this capture it at 32 maximum? 1335 01:40:29,680 --> 01:40:31,060 This amendment nine. 1336 01:40:31,160 --> 01:40:33,000 The amendment doesn't address it one way or another. 1337 01:40:33,200 --> 01:40:36,100 As a practical matter, we're going to two stories 1338 01:40:36,100 --> 01:40:37,100 from three stories. 1339 01:40:37,560 --> 01:40:38,380 The story is fine. 1340 01:40:38,500 --> 01:40:40,240 I just mean for a max height. 1341 01:40:40,900 --> 01:40:43,220 If that can just be, is that fine? 1342 01:40:43,340 --> 01:40:44,500 If that was written in, is it 32? 1343 01:40:45,100 --> 01:40:45,420 Yeah, okay. 1344 01:40:45,560 --> 01:40:47,240 Or it follows Lakeway standards. 1345 01:40:49,840 --> 01:40:51,580 Any other questions for the applicant? 1346 01:40:51,580 --> 01:40:53,060 No? No? Okay. 1347 01:40:55,440 --> 01:40:56,960 Okay. Thank you very much, Bill. You're welcome. 1348 01:40:57,240 --> 01:41:00,580 Open to suffer citizens' participation. Does anyone risk to address counsel on this item? 1349 01:41:01,500 --> 01:41:05,180 I see none in close citizens' participation come back here for discussion and or motion. 1350 01:41:06,540 --> 01:41:09,860 Any discussion points? I'll make a motion. We approve a judge item 21. 1351 01:41:10,340 --> 01:41:20,560 I'll second. And did you go ahead? I just want to I'd like to capture that it's then moved to the 32 feet. 1352 01:41:21,440 --> 01:41:25,620 It sounds like the applicant is fine with that, if we can just ensure that it's, I'd 1353 01:41:25,620 --> 01:41:29,360 leave that to the BDS director to determine the best language, if it just reverts back to 1354 01:41:29,360 --> 01:41:31,160 Lakeway standards, if you want to put 32. 1355 01:41:31,560 --> 01:41:37,700 Yeah, I will look at the, at the height designation and make sure that it says 32 feet. 1356 01:41:38,040 --> 01:41:39,140 I think that's already what's in there. 1357 01:41:39,800 --> 01:41:41,220 I, I thought so too. 1358 01:41:41,360 --> 01:41:42,020 It's the right idea. 1359 01:41:42,240 --> 01:41:43,320 It was only going to be with the 32 feet. 1360 01:41:43,320 --> 01:41:46,400 Yeah, but I think because of highest natural grade, I don't know if they had to do some 1361 01:41:46,400 --> 01:41:49,280 grading out there, and that was, yeah. 1362 01:41:49,280 --> 01:41:53,760 I thought it was well, but then when I heard 40, I was like, well, did I miss that? 1363 01:41:53,760 --> 01:41:54,680 I don't remember seeing that. 1364 01:41:56,120 --> 01:42:00,080 I may be mistaken, I may be mistaken in another zone because there's so many different answers. 1365 01:42:00,660 --> 01:42:03,520 He might be thinking of... 1366 01:42:03,520 --> 01:42:03,860 Hold on. 1367 01:42:04,860 --> 01:42:07,800 Is that the first 32 feet from my tree? 1368 01:42:08,440 --> 01:42:11,420 Yes, that is higher. 1369 01:42:12,560 --> 01:42:13,940 But regardless, I mean... 1370 01:42:13,940 --> 01:42:18,400 I will double check to make sure that it says 32 feet in the... 1371 01:42:18,400 --> 01:42:24,200 It does actually a little further down on page 32 of 36 building high 32 feet. 1372 01:42:24,560 --> 01:42:25,800 So I don't know where the 40 is coming in. 1373 01:42:25,920 --> 01:42:31,240 I think he's getting it maybe are you thinking of are you thinking of the condo unit? 1374 01:42:31,680 --> 01:42:33,920 The three-storey condo unit that was approved? 1375 01:42:34,640 --> 01:42:35,620 There was on page 32. 1376 01:42:36,220 --> 01:42:36,500 Okay. 1377 01:42:39,560 --> 01:42:48,380 Yeah. So I think maybe that three-storey multi we would consider that multi-family 1378 01:42:48,380 --> 01:42:55,480 That's between joe v and these cottages. I think that was 40 feet, but I'll have to get back to this as long 1379 01:42:55,980 --> 01:42:57,600 Yeah, we don't need to try to figure out right now 1380 01:42:57,600 --> 01:43:01,360 But it sounds like you're the developers. Okay with it so that the homes of yours. Yeah, personal 1381 01:43:02,500 --> 01:43:03,700 Yeah, 32 feet 1382 01:43:04,210 --> 01:43:09,960 So yeah, that's strong by the way. So we're good all right. Okay, so we're all set 1383 01:43:10,350 --> 01:43:16,640 I think we're all set. Yeah, I'm fine. I'm okay until Bill said poor Danny. Okay. Yes, so we have a motion 1384 01:43:16,640 --> 01:43:19,040 and we have a second to approve this, as presented. 1385 01:43:20,680 --> 01:43:21,600 Any further discussion? 1386 01:43:22,040 --> 01:43:23,480 All those in favor, please raise your hand, say aye. 1387 01:43:23,880 --> 01:43:23,980 Aye. 1388 01:43:24,560 --> 01:43:25,820 And there's no one opposed, thank you, Council. 1389 01:43:26,840 --> 01:43:28,800 Moving along, item 22. 1390 01:43:29,440 --> 01:43:29,900 Thank you, Bill. 1391 01:43:31,760 --> 01:43:33,040 Discussion and possible action regarding 1392 01:43:33,040 --> 01:43:35,680 the special use permit, 1200, we drive Unit 3 1393 01:43:35,680 --> 01:43:37,400 considered a request from Christopher Sherbock 1394 01:43:37,400 --> 01:43:41,100 of Lake Waveled Square, grooming LLC, tenant of the owner 1395 01:43:41,100 --> 01:43:44,400 of 1,200 Lake Waveled Drive Unit 3 for approval, 1396 01:43:44,400 --> 01:43:46,520 who especially use permit to operate a pet grooming salon 1397 01:43:46,520 --> 01:43:48,340 at this location, Director Carr. 1398 01:43:48,820 --> 01:43:49,720 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. 1399 01:43:50,300 --> 01:43:54,880 So this tenant of the Lakeway Village Square grooming 1400 01:43:54,880 --> 01:43:58,400 is requesting an SUV to operate a dog grooming facility. 1401 01:43:58,660 --> 01:44:01,000 This is right over here by Kathy Lago. 1402 01:44:02,440 --> 01:44:03,120 Good pancakes. 1403 01:44:04,420 --> 01:44:07,680 An SUV is required as dog grooming facility 1404 01:44:07,680 --> 01:44:10,100 is not specifically mentioned as a use 1405 01:44:10,100 --> 01:44:13,180 that's a by-right and a C1 zoning district. 1406 01:44:13,180 --> 01:44:16,660 and it is existing multi-tenant center. 1407 01:44:17,440 --> 01:44:20,080 They're operating hours or nine to five daily. 1408 01:44:20,320 --> 01:44:21,800 There's no overnight kenneling. 1409 01:44:22,240 --> 01:44:24,620 So the noise should be kept to a minimum. 1410 01:44:25,440 --> 01:44:28,240 At the March 4th Zapka meeting, there was one tenant 1411 01:44:28,240 --> 01:44:33,860 that was a little hesitant about this use. 1412 01:44:34,520 --> 01:44:38,260 But I believe the new tenant actually said, you know, 1413 01:44:38,360 --> 01:44:40,280 I have no intention of having any problems. 1414 01:44:40,280 --> 01:44:45,000 And we're going to go talk about it and I believe they went and tried it about adding 1415 01:44:45,000 --> 01:44:51,420 some more soundproofing installations so that she wouldn't be bothered and I'll let 1416 01:44:51,420 --> 01:44:53,840 him discuss that if you all have any questions. 1417 01:44:54,600 --> 01:44:59,960 There were no other comments received through the portal and Zapga recommended approval. 1418 01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:29,600 Do you all for 25 years for the duration of the SUP? And Mr. Sherbeck is here. Okay. Are there any questions for the director? If you have any questions for me. I don't know if this is for you, director or for Joseph. What was the reason why Vance dissent in? I can't remember if it was the duration, or she just why what a Gretchen Vance dissent. Do you know why? 1419 01:45:29,600 --> 01:45:31,400 I don't know if she gave a reason. 1420 01:45:31,660 --> 01:45:32,980 I don't think she stated specifically. 1421 01:45:33,160 --> 01:45:33,280 No. 1422 01:45:33,940 --> 01:45:34,380 Okay. 1423 01:45:37,640 --> 01:45:39,420 Any other questions for the staff? 1424 01:45:40,320 --> 01:45:40,580 Okay. 1425 01:45:40,940 --> 01:45:42,520 We can have the applicant come forward. 1426 01:45:48,410 --> 01:45:55,830 Yes, I did have an opportunity to speak with the owner of the massage therapy clinic next door. 1427 01:45:56,410 --> 01:45:59,270 And we went through her space and we did some sound tests. 1428 01:45:59,430 --> 01:45:59,970 And she was right. 1429 01:46:00,110 --> 01:46:02,110 A lot of sound carried over very easily. 1430 01:46:02,250 --> 01:46:04,090 So she had a right to be concerned. 1431 01:46:04,090 --> 01:46:10,130 I explained to her the procedures we take to minimize dog noise and nobody likes a noisy dog 1432 01:46:10,130 --> 01:46:15,750 We also looked at our hours and because we although the the the salon opens at eight 1433 01:46:15,750 --> 01:46:23,290 Some groomers can come in early and so since they normally don't start their massage just until 10 or 11 1434 01:46:23,290 --> 01:46:27,430 We so we can easily have the if we have any noisy dogs they can come in at eight 1435 01:46:28,350 --> 01:46:32,430 Plus they're not open Sundays so we could also use Sunday for that purpose 1436 01:46:32,430 --> 01:46:39,830 but most importantly is that we have issued or rather applied for a finished 1437 01:46:39,830 --> 01:46:48,990 out permit BLDC0061-2026 to add a sound proofing wall six to 12 inches from 1438 01:46:48,990 --> 01:46:53,870 her the wall that we share and that wall will it's a very simple wall one of 1439 01:46:53,870 --> 01:46:56,770 any electrical work or anything else in it it's just going to have insulation 1440 01:46:57,350 --> 01:47:04,470 mass loaded vinyl, which is a thick piece of soundproof rubber drywall and then a decorative panel on top of that. 1441 01:47:04,790 --> 01:47:08,970 So we're expecting it to be very soundproof and that was actually the recommendation. 1442 01:47:09,670 --> 01:47:13,650 Jen did some research and came back and said, you know, a separate wall is the best way to go. 1443 01:47:13,830 --> 01:47:20,270 And so we got a price and decided, it's a small inconvenience for us and we want to make sure that we have happy neighbors. 1444 01:47:20,690 --> 01:47:25,090 And so we're talking about other ways we can share customers and generate new business for each other. 1445 01:47:25,090 --> 01:47:30,230 so it's going to be a very positive relationship and she's not here this evening because we're 1446 01:47:30,230 --> 01:47:35,890 in agreement on how this is proceeding and I hope council agrees to. Okay thank you questions for 1447 01:47:35,890 --> 01:47:41,250 the. I don't have a question but I'd like to just say a very nice job for reaching out to your neighbor 1448 01:47:41,250 --> 01:47:46,010 there and being able to come up with a solution that worked out for both of you. I love seeing that 1449 01:47:46,010 --> 01:47:52,450 so. Thank you. I'm like a no-brainer honestly. Any other questions? Okay thank you very much sir. 1450 01:47:52,450 --> 01:48:00,650 Oh, Matt. Director Clark, we talked with the neighbor to verify, trust but verify. Like, okay. 1451 01:48:04,940 --> 01:48:09,980 Our inspectors have been over there and said that they're adding the sound proofing and 1452 01:48:09,980 --> 01:48:14,380 installation. So, I mean, I heard it from the chief building official. 1453 01:48:14,740 --> 01:48:16,720 Yeah, I'm going to say she's not here, so I brought it in. 1454 01:48:16,720 --> 01:48:23,120 Yeah, if I may add as well. The point was raised by one of the members of Co-Community 1455 01:48:23,120 --> 01:48:27,740 that it's really an issue that she has with the landlord more so than with 1456 01:48:27,740 --> 01:48:30,820 myself and the landlord has made this evident from the beginning that we do 1457 01:48:30,820 --> 01:48:34,560 have to be careful with the noise so I was open and welcome to those 1458 01:48:34,560 --> 01:48:38,900 discussions and I'm happy to get ahead of it did you guys discuss what would 1459 01:48:38,900 --> 01:48:44,540 happen if it turns out like oh this is actually getting this is if it's not 1460 01:48:44,540 --> 01:48:49,700 gonna work I will not move into the space okay it's really that simple I mean more 1461 01:48:49,700 --> 01:48:53,100 so that once you're in and fully operating, what would happen then? 1462 01:48:53,780 --> 01:48:59,280 Well, the first thing again that we do, if we do have a noisy dog, is they're first 1463 01:48:59,280 --> 01:49:00,020 in and first out. 1464 01:49:00,120 --> 01:49:02,580 Nobody wants that because it tends to be contagious. 1465 01:49:03,320 --> 01:49:09,920 We also have pop-up kennels that we can put in other areas of the grooming salon that if 1466 01:49:09,920 --> 01:49:13,940 we're worried about a dog disturbing either the neighbor or other dogs, we would isolate 1467 01:49:13,940 --> 01:49:14,480 that pet. 1468 01:49:14,480 --> 01:49:18,440 and so we have those procedures. If it's a known nuisance, 1469 01:49:19,020 --> 01:49:21,020 hey, we try not to even bring on those clients. 1470 01:49:21,980 --> 01:49:25,380 We recommend, if the dogs overreact, or overactive, 1471 01:49:25,540 --> 01:49:29,300 we recommend that they either see their vet for those types of services, 1472 01:49:29,840 --> 01:49:32,260 or have some kind of, I don't want to use the word, 1473 01:49:32,260 --> 01:49:33,780 sedative, we're not putting the dog to sleep, 1474 01:49:34,020 --> 01:49:37,820 some CPD or something to calm the dog down so they don't come in over-anxious. 1475 01:49:37,980 --> 01:49:41,360 So it's definitely an issue for us. 1476 01:49:41,360 --> 01:49:49,640 We always have to manage noise and it's not just for this particular neighbor, but it's upsetting to everybody including the groomers and the people working there 1477 01:49:49,640 --> 01:49:58,140 So we take it very seriously and again are excited about this opportunity to put up this extra wall and make some new friends in the process 1478 01:49:58,140 --> 01:50:00,760 Can I get a point of order, Coby? 1479 01:50:01,900 --> 01:50:06,440 Do we have the right to deny or approve a 1480 01:50:06,440 --> 01:50:13,360 A special use permit based on whether we think it's going to make too much noise or not. 1481 01:50:13,760 --> 01:50:15,140 Is it not a civil matter? 1482 01:50:17,370 --> 01:50:21,470 We have to be kind of careful about what we're dealing with. 1483 01:50:23,190 --> 01:50:30,950 Director Carr is correct that there is a specific section in C1 zoning section 30.03.09. 1484 01:50:31,870 --> 01:50:37,010 It says these things are allowed by right and it's physicians, dentists, optometrist lawyers 1485 01:50:37,010 --> 01:50:42,010 I don't know why, we're pretty loud engineers, so kind of quiet office uses. 1486 01:50:42,670 --> 01:50:46,850 And then there's another section called conditional uses that said, these are allowed by right 1487 01:50:47,510 --> 01:50:50,170 within C1, except in a certain condition. 1488 01:50:50,610 --> 01:50:54,530 So that includes medical offices and retail and service businesses, which is what I would 1489 01:50:54,530 --> 01:50:55,270 consider this to be. 1490 01:50:55,870 --> 01:51:01,650 But the condition is, if it's within 300 feet of a residential or school use, you have to 1491 01:51:01,650 --> 01:51:03,530 get a special use permit, which is what we're doing. 1492 01:51:04,570 --> 01:51:11,990 So the condition and the special use are tied to proximity to a residential zoning district. 1493 01:51:12,590 --> 01:51:21,010 We don't have the right to just say, well, if it's not in the list of, by right, we can't do it without a special use permit. 1494 01:51:21,690 --> 01:51:29,550 Because subsection C specifically says, these businesses are allowed within C1 districts by right unless it's within 300 feet. 1495 01:51:29,550 --> 01:51:38,830 So the chances of it barking and the chances of it barking and also bothering neighbors 1496 01:51:38,830 --> 01:51:44,410 inside the rest of the building, that's not residential, so do we, is that something 1497 01:51:44,410 --> 01:51:45,330 we should be discussing? 1498 01:51:46,230 --> 01:51:51,310 I think it's fine to discuss because you want everybody to be happy, but if you were going 1499 01:51:51,310 --> 01:51:55,270 to like put a condition on them that he had to do the things he's already done, he has to 1500 01:51:55,270 --> 01:51:56,990 to keep as DB's the low 60. 1501 01:51:57,290 --> 01:51:59,630 We would have to have a good conversation about that. 1502 01:52:00,370 --> 01:52:03,550 Because again, that's really more of a landlord tenant conversation. 1503 01:52:03,770 --> 01:52:04,450 That's what I thought. 1504 01:52:04,770 --> 01:52:06,190 City regulatory authority. 1505 01:52:07,470 --> 01:52:09,610 I mean, it has to comply with the city noise ordinance generally. 1506 01:52:09,970 --> 01:52:10,050 Right. 1507 01:52:11,110 --> 01:52:11,230 Okay. 1508 01:52:11,450 --> 01:52:12,410 Other questions for the applicant? 1509 01:52:13,710 --> 01:52:14,110 Okay, sir. 1510 01:52:14,210 --> 01:52:14,690 Thank you very much. 1511 01:52:14,790 --> 01:52:14,890 Please. 1512 01:52:15,190 --> 01:52:15,410 Thank you. 1513 01:52:15,450 --> 01:52:15,590 You're back. 1514 01:52:16,390 --> 01:52:17,990 Opening this up for citizens participation. 1515 01:52:17,990 --> 01:52:19,730 Does anyone wish to discuss this with council? 1516 01:52:20,410 --> 01:52:23,950 I see none in close citizens participation come back up here for a further discussion. 1517 01:52:23,950 --> 01:52:29,750 or motion. I'll make a motion we approve agenda item 22 for the special use permit. 1518 01:52:30,270 --> 01:52:34,650 I'll second. I have a motion and second to approve agenda item 22 any further discussion. 1519 01:52:35,930 --> 01:52:40,890 All those in favor please say aye. Resurrected. Motion carries unanimously. Thank you very much. Congratulations. 1520 01:52:41,970 --> 01:52:42,890 Welcome to Lakeway. 1521 01:52:44,930 --> 01:52:47,950 That's what's going to say and we're right. Yeah and he's moving from 1522 01:52:47,950 --> 01:52:50,230 BK. Very positive move. There you go. 1523 01:52:55,110 --> 01:53:00,130 Discussion and possible action regarding special use permit, 1213, Ranch Road 620, South, Suite 101. 1524 01:53:00,770 --> 01:53:03,990 Consider a request from Rodney Smith, owner of Weston Coast Salon, LLC. 1525 01:53:04,650 --> 01:53:13,950 The tenant of the owner, 1213R620, South, Suite 101 for approval of a special use permit to operate a hair salon at this location, excuse me, that direct the car. 1526 01:53:14,790 --> 01:53:15,810 Thank you, Mr. Mayor. 1527 01:53:15,810 --> 01:53:20,770 So, here's another one. This one does fall under the conditional use permit that Copy 1528 01:53:20,770 --> 01:53:28,450 was referring to. The way I read the code, I think that pet grooming is a special use permit. 1529 01:53:29,230 --> 01:53:34,210 Not a conditional. We can have a conversation later. Okay, but there we go. 1530 01:53:34,670 --> 01:53:38,430 So, but this is a hair salon. And since it's within 300 feet of residential, 1531 01:53:38,430 --> 01:53:44,710 point zone property it requires a special use permit. So this is a very straightforward 1532 01:53:45,310 --> 01:53:54,850 it's a multi-tenant center it's surrounded by commercial except to the east is residential. 1533 01:53:56,570 --> 01:54:06,390 It's Monday 3 Saturday 8 to 7. It's in the I don't know the name of this building but it's 1534 01:54:06,390 --> 01:54:08,250 in this building here that's depicted. 1535 01:54:09,010 --> 01:54:11,250 And at the March 4th Zapga meeting, 1536 01:54:11,410 --> 01:54:13,310 the commissioners recommended approval 1537 01:54:13,990 --> 01:54:16,530 for 25 years to City Council. 1538 01:54:16,730 --> 01:54:18,850 And this was unanimous decision. 1539 01:54:19,650 --> 01:54:23,810 And Mr. Smith of West and Co is here representing 1540 01:54:23,810 --> 01:54:26,050 the request if you have any questions for him. 1541 01:54:26,550 --> 01:54:29,170 We received no comments through the portal for either of these. 1542 01:54:30,810 --> 01:54:31,750 Okay, thank you. 1543 01:54:31,890 --> 01:54:33,110 Are there questions for Director Carr? 1544 01:54:33,530 --> 01:54:35,010 Let me just say Council Member Sherman, question. 1545 01:54:35,690 --> 01:54:36,850 Thank you very much, Director Carr. 1546 01:54:36,950 --> 01:54:37,190 Thank you. 1547 01:54:38,950 --> 01:54:40,290 Do we need to hear from the applicant? 1548 01:54:40,970 --> 01:54:44,990 I mean, not much you want to talk about services, hair services, things about. 1549 01:54:45,470 --> 01:54:46,130 Oh, well, thank you. 1550 01:54:46,730 --> 01:54:48,390 Because you need a haircut, don't you, Chris? 1551 01:54:49,890 --> 01:54:50,870 Well, Lewis is happy. 1552 01:54:51,050 --> 01:54:52,950 He's going to have two new places to go to get a haircut. 1553 01:54:53,550 --> 01:54:54,730 The first place in this place. 1554 01:54:56,310 --> 01:54:59,310 Okay, if there's no need for the applicant, 1555 01:55:00,050 --> 01:55:01,510 I'll open his up for citizens' participation. 1556 01:55:01,630 --> 01:55:04,550 Does anyone wish to discuss this request with council? 1557 01:55:04,550 --> 01:55:13,270 I see none in close to participation will come back up to the Dias for discussion and or a motion I'll make a motion we approve agenda item 23. 1558 01:55:13,570 --> 01:55:22,490 I have a motion and second to approve agenda item 23 as presented. Is there any further conversation? All those in favor please raise your answer. 1559 01:55:22,490 --> 01:55:22,730 Aye. 1560 01:55:23,590 --> 01:55:25,190 Okay. Thank you very much. 1561 01:55:26,050 --> 01:55:27,710 Council thank you moving along. 1562 01:55:27,710 --> 01:55:32,630 and risky. Item 24, discussion of possible action regarding proposed economic development 1563 01:55:32,630 --> 01:55:37,850 in sent to policy. We have a staff report by assistant city manager, Ashley Gordon. 1564 01:55:38,310 --> 01:55:44,990 This is a return of the policy that we have previously looked at. Council members, since this 1565 01:55:44,990 --> 01:55:50,470 agenda was published, I received two requests. One from the Lake Travis Chamber of Commerce 1566 01:55:50,950 --> 01:55:56,910 that they be given the chance to participate, to review the policy and edit it and return 1567 01:55:56,910 --> 01:56:02,070 it with their thoughts. And second, from the Economic Development Committee, that the 1568 01:56:02,070 --> 01:56:06,690 Economic Development Committee would like to be a part of the process to also review the 1569 01:56:06,690 --> 01:56:14,090 document and make any comments. In light of that, and since it is on the agenda, we have 1570 01:56:14,090 --> 01:56:18,610 this request for two of the organizations that we work with on economic incentive, rather than 1571 01:56:18,610 --> 01:56:26,750 using council time tonight. I might suggest that we postpone this so that those agents 1572 01:56:26,750 --> 01:56:29,070 We can see those committees can give us some feedback. 1573 01:56:29,850 --> 01:56:31,730 So anybody would agree with that? 1574 01:56:32,050 --> 01:56:35,590 I said one comment to find with that just one comment to make to the policy. 1575 01:56:37,930 --> 01:56:44,810 If it could be captured, I guess discussion for council here, that these incentives are for 1576 01:56:47,010 --> 01:56:54,530 projects that are not currently entitled or if they already are, then they have a significant change that would be the reason for this. 1577 01:56:56,730 --> 01:57:02,130 So in other words, the policy is for new or redeveloped businesses in the community. 1578 01:57:02,690 --> 01:57:05,010 What's significant impact, I think, is when you see that? 1579 01:57:05,010 --> 01:57:09,590 Well, yeah, I can have a significant impact, but we can have projects already on the books, 1580 01:57:10,270 --> 01:57:15,230 already approved, that are going to have significant impact, subsequent to the adoption. 1581 01:57:16,070 --> 01:57:20,750 Would be the, I think, in the moment, I've seen, as of right now, they would have significant impact. 1582 01:57:20,750 --> 01:57:21,570 Yes. 1583 01:57:21,830 --> 01:57:25,710 This should not be used as like a backstop bailout whenever you want to call it. 1584 01:57:25,790 --> 01:57:31,110 It needs to be forward-looking and or if it's an existing but it's like, hey, if we had 1585 01:57:31,110 --> 01:57:35,450 access to these funds, we would take the project from what you're seeing here to this and 1586 01:57:35,450 --> 01:57:37,390 there would be this many more jobs, this much more intact. 1587 01:57:37,630 --> 01:57:44,370 So I think the comment, again, you would say subsequent to adoption, the businesses considered 1588 01:57:44,370 --> 01:57:48,570 would be considered for their development subsequent to the adoption of the policy, 1589 01:57:48,730 --> 01:57:51,070 not in existence prior to. 1590 01:57:55,790 --> 01:58:01,610 The point is, if I think we might be saying the same thing, I think we're saying the same thing. 1591 01:58:01,710 --> 01:58:02,950 I'm just trying to give you the right language. 1592 01:58:03,710 --> 01:58:04,770 Well, we can work through the language. 1593 01:58:04,970 --> 01:58:06,450 I mean, we're not deciding how it's going to come back. 1594 01:58:06,690 --> 01:58:07,370 It's going to come back. 1595 01:58:07,370 --> 01:58:12,150 I'm going to capture it like, hey, this is not to be used for everyone who's got something today. 1596 01:58:12,470 --> 01:58:14,010 Can come back and say, oh, I need that. 1597 01:58:14,370 --> 01:58:17,910 And if their plan is still the exact same that we've already approved without 1598 01:58:17,910 --> 01:58:23,210 a 380 or a turs it's like we know we we're already going to be getting this and 1599 01:58:23,210 --> 01:58:27,790 now it feels more like a bailout. I'll let you guys work. Sure. Thank you. 1600 01:58:27,830 --> 01:58:32,550 So would that be acceptable that we postpone until we receive that? How many how long do 1601 01:58:32,550 --> 01:58:36,590 you think that these committees would need to review? Are we talking a month? We're 1602 01:58:36,590 --> 01:58:41,830 talking two months. I would say we've given 60 days, two months. So two months. Yeah. So the main meeting. 1603 01:58:43,210 --> 01:58:47,790 So I would everybody's okay. I would say we make a motion to postpone. 1604 01:58:47,910 --> 01:58:51,470 This item to my regular meeting. 1605 01:58:52,130 --> 01:58:52,790 I'll second. 1606 01:58:53,170 --> 01:58:54,690 Okay, I have a motion to second to postpone 1607 01:58:54,690 --> 01:58:55,670 until the May regular meeting. 1608 01:58:55,850 --> 01:58:56,570 Citizens participation. 1609 01:58:56,970 --> 01:58:59,290 Does anyone in chambers wish to just counsel on this item? 1610 01:58:59,470 --> 01:59:00,990 Seeing non-closing citizens participation. 1611 01:59:01,790 --> 01:59:03,750 Take this for a vote to postpone 1612 01:59:03,750 --> 01:59:04,770 until the May regular meeting. 1613 01:59:04,910 --> 01:59:06,130 All those in favor, can we capture that? 1614 01:59:06,470 --> 01:59:06,550 Yes. 1615 01:59:08,950 --> 01:59:10,510 All those in favor of postponing 1616 01:59:10,510 --> 01:59:11,970 until the May regular meeting, please say aye. 1617 01:59:12,390 --> 01:59:12,490 Aye. 1618 01:59:12,990 --> 01:59:13,330 That's six. 1619 01:59:13,330 --> 01:59:14,570 Nothing, thank you very much, counsel. 1620 01:59:16,030 --> 01:59:16,710 And 1621 01:59:19,620 --> 01:59:34,360 moving to our final agenda item the evening discussion possible action regarding Lakeway Activity Center policies due to possible loitering on February 17th, 2026 staff report by City Manager Joseph Molyse City Manager. 1622 01:59:35,200 --> 01:59:46,600 Thank you Mayor and Mayor Proteman council members. Most of you are all of you are aware because I've sent a memorandum to council that during our last council meeting will advance the next slide. 1623 01:59:47,360 --> 01:59:52,820 During our last council meeting, we received a complaint of possible election hearing at the Lakeway 1624 01:59:52,820 --> 01:59:58,940 Activity Center. Our meeting happened to be during early voting for the Texas primaries. 1625 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:28,460 Oh, I wanted to give a little bit of background on this. So on August 14th, 2025, the late Travis Democrats reserved the Liquid Activity Center for multiple meeting nights, including the February 17th, 2026 meeting. In early 2026, the staff relies at that meeting date overlapped with the early voting period. They then tried to work with that organization to reschedule the event, but that organization was reluctant to do so. 1626 02:00:28,460 --> 02:00:35,700 So that event was already a rescheduled event because they did have that meeting originally 1627 02:00:35,700 --> 02:00:39,720 scheduled for when we had the ice storm and we closed all the facilities. 1628 02:00:40,940 --> 02:00:45,900 Also the staff, you know, was trying to work with a good customer service and didn't want 1629 02:00:45,900 --> 02:00:52,120 to have an appearance of discrimination against a particular political party so they decided 1630 02:00:52,120 --> 02:00:58,980 to honor that existing reservation. However, they put some strict requirements in place including 1631 02:00:58,980 --> 02:01:04,260 that the event would be segregated, that the windows would be blacked out, that they would use 1632 02:01:04,260 --> 02:01:09,800 a separate entrance to the facility, that the bathrooms in the front would be segregated so that 1633 02:01:09,800 --> 02:01:13,420 the voters wouldn't be allowed to use the front bathrooms, they'd be allowed to use the bathrooms 1634 02:01:13,420 --> 02:01:18,640 towards the back where the voting was occurring and so forth to try to segregate that. If you go to 1635 02:01:18,640 --> 02:01:25,700 the next slide, please. However, this is what occurred that night. Please keep in mind 1636 02:01:25,700 --> 02:01:31,040 their reservation said that they would have the facility from 7 p.m. to 9 p.m., including 1637 02:01:31,040 --> 02:01:38,480 setup. Again, the staff tends to be overly, I'm just not going to miss words, they tend 1638 02:01:38,480 --> 02:01:42,940 to be overly nice to people that come in, especially if there wasn't a reservation ahead 1639 02:01:42,940 --> 02:01:45,940 of time so they did allow that group to set up early. 1640 02:01:46,480 --> 02:01:51,720 They were there before 6 p.m. looking at the video records with the City Secretary. 1641 02:01:51,940 --> 02:01:57,700 I think we determined they were there a little bit after 5 p.m. to begin their set up and 1642 02:01:57,700 --> 02:02:04,940 obviously the polls were still open at about 6.30 p.m. they had refreshments and had a some 1643 02:02:04,940 --> 02:02:10,420 type of meeting beforehand and informal gathering with refreshments. 1644 02:02:11,200 --> 02:02:19,320 Shortly before 6.30 p.m., I received a complaint about potential electioneering activity near 1645 02:02:19,320 --> 02:02:20,420 the polling location. 1646 02:02:21,000 --> 02:02:28,660 So I dispatched a Lakeway PD officer and a Parks staff member to go evaluate the situation. 1647 02:02:29,060 --> 02:02:34,520 They spoke with the election judge and other election officials, and we're told that this 1648 02:02:34,520 --> 02:02:35,920 This was kind of a gray area. 1649 02:02:36,980 --> 02:02:44,760 They did not personally see any electioneering and the candidates and elected officials agreed 1650 02:02:44,760 --> 02:02:48,480 to remain outside the 100-foot electioneering boundary until the polls closed. 1651 02:02:49,180 --> 02:02:54,100 So those are the events that occurred on the 9th of February 17th during our council meeting. 1652 02:02:54,680 --> 02:02:55,320 Next slide, please. 1653 02:02:56,880 --> 02:03:03,320 As a result of that incident, and I'm just going to again be blunt about it, there was a staff 1654 02:03:03,320 --> 02:03:10,200 failure in terms of enforcing the strict requirements since the last time. 1655 02:03:10,580 --> 02:03:19,860 I have recommended enhanced policy changes for the Activity Center that I initiated following 1656 02:03:19,860 --> 02:03:23,000 my investigation event and speaking with the City Attorney. 1657 02:03:23,720 --> 02:03:30,700 And so those enhanced requirements are that no political groups will not be allowed to 1658 02:03:30,700 --> 02:03:34,960 to be scheduled to meet the activity center during active voting periods. 1659 02:03:35,280 --> 02:03:41,380 So if they've already pre-reserved the room and then it turns out we have a run-off 1660 02:03:41,380 --> 02:03:45,300 or something that wasn't on the schedule ahead of time, they will be required to move 1661 02:03:45,300 --> 02:03:49,060 to a different facility or reschedule or cancel that event. 1662 02:03:49,820 --> 02:03:56,240 The activity staff will coordinate with the city secretary to clearly demarcate those election 1663 02:03:56,240 --> 02:04:00,580 periods and try to get those into the reservation system and in the reservation 1664 02:04:00,580 --> 02:04:08,080 and calendars, whenever a polling reservation is scheduled from the county, the staff will 1665 02:04:08,080 --> 02:04:14,560 again review the tenants or clients and relocate political events when possible, if not 1666 02:04:14,560 --> 02:04:15,540 they will cancel those. 1667 02:04:16,500 --> 02:04:22,880 That type of language is placed now in the rental agreement, so we have reinforcing language 1668 02:04:22,880 --> 02:04:27,780 that's required to be read by the applicant and initialed by the applicant, as well as 1669 02:04:27,780 --> 02:04:32,200 definitions of election hearing which are already or we're already on the application 1670 02:04:32,200 --> 02:04:32,840 at the time. 1671 02:04:33,640 --> 02:04:40,100 And so what I am seeking from you as is the rest of staff is that was an initial policy 1672 02:04:40,100 --> 02:04:47,140 decision that I made to deal with that situation and I'm now seeking council feedback on that 1673 02:04:47,140 --> 02:04:47,700 policy. 1674 02:04:47,840 --> 02:04:48,880 Do we continue with that? 1675 02:04:49,280 --> 02:04:50,200 Do we strengthen it? 1676 02:04:50,400 --> 02:04:53,100 Do we lessen it? 1677 02:04:53,620 --> 02:04:56,320 Do we have anything else that we want to discuss about that? 1678 02:04:56,320 --> 02:05:05,880 But like I said, I as city manager made the decision to change the policy in immediate response and am now seeking clarification from council on how we would like to move forward. 1679 02:05:06,460 --> 02:05:09,560 That concludes my presentation. I'd be happy to answer any questions. 1680 02:05:11,800 --> 02:05:13,000 Questions for the city manager? 1681 02:05:13,860 --> 02:05:14,600 Yeah, I just have one. 1682 02:05:16,620 --> 02:05:23,200 When we're talking about during active voting periods, I know this isn't the exact terminology that you're going to be using. 1683 02:05:23,200 --> 02:05:33,100 We make sure that we say active voting days, so that, hey, for somebody to say, well, hey, I got something at 7pm and voting ends at 7, so technically we're allowed to say that it becomes another issue. 1684 02:05:33,660 --> 02:05:42,100 You are correct, and that was the intent of the order that even if they come back and say, well, we're going to do it at 8pm, we're going to say no, it is during election day. 1685 02:05:42,260 --> 02:05:45,580 So you are correct, we will ensure that that policy reflects that. 1686 02:05:45,580 --> 02:05:47,780 Okay. Thank you. Can I remember a brine? 1687 02:05:49,900 --> 02:05:53,720 Still stewing. Councilor Britson. No questions. 1688 02:05:54,180 --> 02:05:58,320 Just a question. No question. Councilor Sherman questions. 1689 02:05:59,780 --> 02:06:07,220 Did you do an audit to see like this year how many groups would have been canceled or meetings 1690 02:06:07,220 --> 02:06:12,600 or reservations I should say? No I don't believe. I think I did not do that. I don't know 1691 02:06:12,600 --> 02:06:18,120 if the issue isn't staffed at it, we can certainly research that, but I don't believe 1692 02:06:18,120 --> 02:06:18,640 that we did. 1693 02:06:19,080 --> 02:06:22,260 And how is it handled like for men's breakfast? 1694 02:06:23,980 --> 02:06:27,400 So the way we've looked at that is that's not a known political group. 1695 02:06:27,680 --> 02:06:32,340 It is a group that has political discussions, but it's not a political group. 1696 02:06:32,440 --> 02:06:37,000 Now one of the things we've done is, and we have to be careful about this for censorship 1697 02:06:37,000 --> 02:06:41,520 issues and constitutional protections, but we do look at their agendas when they provide 1698 02:06:41,520 --> 02:06:46,620 them and if we notice that it is something that starts to skirt that line of 1699 02:06:47,240 --> 02:06:50,960 electioneering, then we work with them about rescheduling. But Canada's coming 1700 02:06:50,960 --> 02:06:55,360 to speak, you're like probably not. Right, but you know as I so we actually had a 1701 02:06:55,360 --> 02:06:58,820 discussion because one of the county commissioners came to give a 1702 02:06:58,820 --> 02:07:04,200 presentation and so I had to clarify that an elected official giving a 1703 02:07:04,200 --> 02:07:09,660 presentation is not necessarily political speech. You know the mayor can give 1704 02:07:09,660 --> 02:07:15,800 a presentation on the transportation bond and that's not necessarily a political speech 1705 02:07:15,800 --> 02:07:19,880 whereas if the mayor were running for office and hey vote for me, that is. 1706 02:07:20,320 --> 02:07:26,020 So there's a distinction that we look at, but the reality is that what we are specifically 1707 02:07:26,020 --> 02:07:29,860 looking for in this new language are known political groups. 1708 02:07:30,080 --> 02:07:35,920 So Lake Travis Democrats, Lake Wave Republican Club, whatever that group is, if it's an actual 1709 02:07:35,920 --> 02:07:42,260 political affiliated group, then we would enact those protections if it's a group that 1710 02:07:42,800 --> 02:07:47,300 sometimes talks about politics and we'll have that conversation, but that's not within 1711 02:07:47,300 --> 02:07:49,100 the scope of what we're discussing. 1712 02:07:50,240 --> 02:07:50,920 Thank you. 1713 02:07:53,600 --> 02:07:53,820 That's a question. 1714 02:07:54,220 --> 02:07:54,420 Okay. 1715 02:07:54,620 --> 02:07:55,440 Good coffee over there. 1716 02:07:55,500 --> 02:07:56,920 So, for 1717 02:07:59,060 --> 02:08:05,460 actual political periods, if you will, we know pretty far in advance when those 1718 02:08:05,460 --> 02:08:06,080 are going to happen. 1719 02:08:06,560 --> 02:08:07,160 Is that right? 1720 02:08:07,160 --> 02:08:26,900 I mean Texas primary elections are on the same date or same same day of the month of March every time and so and we know local elections are held in May same time early period runoff elections or such and such date. 1721 02:08:27,420 --> 02:08:35,480 I mean we know those sufficiently ahead of time such that we could be assuring that any group that wants to schedule during those periods. 1722 02:08:36,740 --> 02:08:38,380 which you should just say no. 1723 02:08:39,340 --> 02:08:40,540 Well, and that's the discussion. 1724 02:08:40,840 --> 02:08:43,940 So the Lake Travis Democrats could have a meeting 1725 02:08:43,940 --> 02:08:46,200 and talk about anything they want, right? 1726 02:08:46,620 --> 02:08:47,860 It doesn't have to be political. 1727 02:08:48,300 --> 02:08:51,040 It's just that meeting that night happened to be 1728 02:08:51,040 --> 02:08:54,240 a candidate forum for people that were on the ballot. 1729 02:08:54,880 --> 02:08:58,440 So that was clearly something that should not have happened. 1730 02:08:58,700 --> 02:09:00,920 But if they were having a, you know, they're a club. 1731 02:09:01,120 --> 02:09:03,940 If they were having a discussion to talk about deer hunting, 1732 02:09:03,940 --> 02:09:09,120 just because they're a political group doesn't necessarily mean that we should ban their speech. 1733 02:09:09,820 --> 02:09:15,340 However, given the history of things that have happened at the activity center, 1734 02:09:15,820 --> 02:09:19,840 that is why I made that decision, but that's why we're having this conversation 1735 02:09:19,840 --> 02:09:21,480 is to get that clarification from you. 1736 02:09:22,120 --> 02:09:25,300 Yes, theoretically, we know when those dates are happening, 1737 02:09:25,800 --> 02:09:30,960 and we reaffirm that because the county has to reserve the room at the activity center, 1738 02:09:30,960 --> 02:09:36,620 So then we absolutely know it's being used as a polling place during this time period and we go back and we 1739 02:09:36,620 --> 02:09:42,080 Recheck those but we don't always have the agendas for those meetings and so that's the 1740 02:09:42,640 --> 02:09:48,340 The danger zone as the city attorney is is not looking favorably on me at 1741 02:09:48,960 --> 02:09:54,760 That that's the danger of you know just because it's a political group. Are we in a position to? 1742 02:09:54,760 --> 02:09:57,840 to force them to reschedule their meeting? 1743 02:10:01,460 --> 02:10:06,620 Well, I guess what I was going to question is your first bullet says they will not be 1744 02:10:06,620 --> 02:10:09,000 scheduled to meet during active voting periods. 1745 02:10:10,520 --> 02:10:16,000 So you're not allowing known political groups to schedule during active voting periods. 1746 02:10:16,580 --> 02:10:23,300 So my original question was we know sufficiently ahead of when these active voting periods 1747 02:10:23,300 --> 02:10:30,540 are going to be such that we're able to anticipate how to schedule these groups and when they 1748 02:10:30,540 --> 02:10:33,040 can't be there and when they can't be there based upon that. 1749 02:10:33,300 --> 02:10:38,200 As opposed to waiting to look a year ahead, we know two years ahead, three, four years ahead, 1750 02:10:38,600 --> 02:10:42,980 we have a sense of that already because we know some groups like to schedule further out. 1751 02:10:43,640 --> 02:10:46,160 I'm going to let the city secretary clarify that. 1752 02:10:47,320 --> 02:10:50,640 Two exceptions to that would be primaries and run-offs. 1753 02:10:51,460 --> 02:10:51,620 Right. 1754 02:10:51,620 --> 02:10:56,060 We don't know those till they're scheduled by the county for primaries a lot of times. 1755 02:10:56,700 --> 02:11:01,640 And runoffs we don't know until that election occurs and then we know there has to be 1756 02:11:01,640 --> 02:11:02,160 it runoff. 1757 02:11:03,560 --> 02:11:09,740 Those are the two I guess my point is my point is that primaries are held on a date in 1758 02:11:09,740 --> 02:11:14,280 March, a day in March, same day every time, right? 1759 02:11:20,420 --> 02:11:21,760 That's a question or discussion. 1760 02:11:22,980 --> 02:11:25,480 As a question, I don't know the answer to that. 1761 02:11:26,000 --> 02:11:29,440 I don't usually keep up with primary elections, but I can find out. 1762 02:11:29,880 --> 02:11:35,780 Although I'm going, I'm just trying to give staff some space here to look further out 1763 02:11:35,780 --> 02:11:40,780 ahead for these groups that are trying to schedule further out and make sure that we're 1764 02:11:40,780 --> 02:11:42,100 given staff enough cover. 1765 02:11:42,300 --> 02:11:45,160 As for the general election dates, we know what, two years out. 1766 02:11:47,270 --> 02:11:52,510 I mean, there's a uniform date, but yeah, but the Secretary of State usually has got a 1767 02:11:52,510 --> 02:11:55,390 calendar of like when early voting begins and things like that. 1768 02:11:55,810 --> 02:11:57,850 We can calculate all that from the statute, 1769 02:11:58,110 --> 02:12:01,090 but it's at least laid out, at least two years 1770 02:12:01,090 --> 02:12:02,190 in advance on the Secretary of State. 1771 02:12:02,470 --> 02:12:04,390 That's my thought, and that's the reason for my question. 1772 02:12:04,570 --> 02:12:06,110 But the primary is, I don't know about it, I get a look. 1773 02:12:07,390 --> 02:12:08,270 Okay, thank you. 1774 02:12:08,570 --> 02:12:09,090 Any other questions? 1775 02:12:11,030 --> 02:12:12,270 Okay, just a question. 1776 02:12:12,850 --> 02:12:14,470 Okay, opening stuff for citizen participation. 1777 02:12:14,590 --> 02:12:16,670 Does anyone wish to dress counsel in this matter? 1778 02:12:17,010 --> 02:12:18,630 Yeah, it's my closing citizen participation. 1779 02:12:19,510 --> 02:12:20,790 Now we can have a discussion. 1780 02:12:26,820 --> 02:12:30,900 I'm fine with supporting the city managers' adjustments as they are right now. 1781 02:12:31,740 --> 02:12:41,360 I might be so inclined to go further based on sort of a history of this, but I can understand 1782 02:12:41,360 --> 02:12:44,640 why we probably would not want to step into that danger zone. 1783 02:12:44,640 --> 02:12:54,440 So, I think this is a fine midpoint to draw a line for telling political clubs. 1784 02:12:55,060 --> 02:12:58,520 They need to find a different place to meet during these voting periods. 1785 02:13:01,140 --> 02:13:02,600 Well, a discussion on that, Kelvin. 1786 02:13:03,160 --> 02:13:03,560 I agree. 1787 02:13:04,840 --> 02:13:04,980 Senator. 1788 02:13:07,270 --> 02:13:10,690 In the staff, although it says the city attorney has advised a complete prohibition on 1789 02:13:10,690 --> 02:13:14,330 political groups using the facility during election periods could raise constitutional concerns. 1790 02:13:14,670 --> 02:13:15,990 So, how do we get this done? 1791 02:13:15,990 --> 02:13:20,530 Copy. We need to discuss that in the back. What's going on? 1792 02:13:20,530 --> 02:13:21,450 I don't want to do that in open session. 1793 02:13:22,550 --> 02:13:23,330 What's going on? Let's go to the back. 1794 02:13:25,790 --> 02:13:29,890 Okay. Well, otherwise may we're proving something that the attorney is saying no on, so. 1795 02:13:30,270 --> 02:13:37,790 No. Let's not infer what the attorney is saying. Let us instead go back and hear what the 1796 02:13:37,790 --> 02:13:38,630 attorney wants to say. 1797 02:13:41,990 --> 02:13:49,630 So, pursuant to the local government code section 551.071, consultation with an attorney, 1798 02:13:50,350 --> 02:13:58,030 the City Council will move into executive session, the time is 8.56 p.m., no action will 1799 02:13:58,030 --> 02:14:01,550 be taken in executive session, action if any will be taken in open session. 1800 02:14:02,190 --> 02:14:04,590 With that, we will move to executive session. 1801 02:14:12,570 --> 02:14:18,670 The council has returned to the dius. I take note of a quorum. The meeting is returned to order. It is called back to order. 1802 02:14:19,190 --> 02:14:25,370 No action was taken in executive section. Action if any will be taken here in open session. 1803 02:14:26,010 --> 02:14:28,990 So we're going to go down this list of policy implementations. 1804 02:14:30,450 --> 02:14:34,430 Political groups will not be scheduled to meet at LAC during active voting periods. 1805 02:14:34,430 --> 02:14:45,890 I believe Council would like that rewritten to be political groups will not be allowed access to meeting rooms until 30 minutes after the polls have closed. 1806 02:14:49,300 --> 02:14:55,440 The LAs, the staff will coordinate with the city secretary to clearly mark election periods that is as stated. 1807 02:14:55,440 --> 02:14:59,300 What a reservation is scheduled staff will review the facility. 1808 02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:06,260 Any calendar, reschedule, or relocate, political events when possible. That is agreed to. 1809 02:15:06,860 --> 02:15:12,560 The reservation agreements will now include election period restrictions and require 1810 02:15:12,560 --> 02:15:19,420 acknowledgment by all applicants. So those are the four things that we'd like to see in the policy going forward. 1811 02:15:21,260 --> 02:15:24,700 With that, would Eddie would like to make a motion on those points. 1812 02:15:24,700 --> 02:15:40,680 Mr. Mayor, on the third bullet item, if we're stating in the first bullet item that those groups cannot schedule until 30 minutes after polling period, does that make the third bullet moot? 1813 02:15:42,440 --> 02:15:47,140 I would just reframe the third bullet point to reflect that condition, the first condition. 1814 02:15:49,420 --> 02:15:50,520 Can you say it again please? 1815 02:15:50,520 --> 02:15:57,700 I would reframe the third one to say that the third 1816 02:16:00,450 --> 02:16:01,670 one's fine, it's the fourth one. 1817 02:16:06,010 --> 02:16:07,430 What's the issue with the fourth one? 1818 02:16:08,430 --> 02:16:14,850 About the 30 minutes after the polls close, that they can rent a space 30 minutes after 1819 02:16:14,850 --> 02:16:18,710 the polls close, we'll put that into the agreement with language to the effect. 1820 02:16:19,870 --> 02:16:22,290 That's what we did by changing one. 1821 02:16:22,290 --> 02:16:28,390 Right, but I'm just saying it should be reflected in four on three. I don't know that there's anything in these be changed 1822 02:16:28,390 --> 02:16:30,290 I don't think we need three at all 1823 02:16:31,270 --> 02:16:34,930 Well, no, they are gonna try to reschedule and relocate 1824 02:16:34,930 --> 02:16:39,850 Well, we've said don't we said in their first bullet. They're not gonna have to spot until 30 minutes after post-close 1825 02:16:39,850 --> 02:16:47,870 But just in general if they can reschedule they will try to reschedule if it's not an option or there's pushback then one goes in 1826 02:16:47,870 --> 02:16:49,810 Like if there's a runoff 1827 02:16:49,810 --> 02:16:53,150 Yeah, well, it does say when possible. So yeah, I should just it could stay. 1828 02:16:53,930 --> 02:16:59,330 And does the technicality remember a lot of these groups make these reservations a year in advance 1829 02:16:59,330 --> 02:17:03,570 for multiple periods? So we probably have active reservations. Yeah, we're going to go back 1830 02:17:03,570 --> 02:17:08,990 to reflect in that language. So far, why that's there. The last time we talked about it, so I would 1831 02:17:08,990 --> 02:17:17,240 assume now that we shouldn't have that problem right now. My thought too. We should not have been 1832 02:17:17,240 --> 02:17:23,540 booking anything during the election period. But again, we don't know about run-offs. We 1833 02:17:23,540 --> 02:17:27,960 don't know about run-offs. We won't know until the election occurs. 1834 02:17:28,120 --> 02:17:31,800 But on any scheduled election, we don't have a map. 1835 02:17:33,620 --> 02:17:38,480 I mean, that's the thing. We need to go back and look and then deal with it. There's 1836 02:17:38,480 --> 02:17:43,840 something to say. I say, we meaning. Okay. So, I mean, I hate to say, guys, we're 1837 02:17:43,840 --> 02:17:47,440 We're talking ourselves into a circle here, but I think three is fine. 1838 02:17:48,180 --> 02:17:52,680 And four, the reservations will now include election period restrictions and require 1839 02:17:52,680 --> 02:17:55,920 acknowledgment by the applicants of the conditions in line one. 1840 02:17:57,200 --> 02:18:01,320 But there are other conditions as well, so I don't think you need to change that. 1841 02:18:01,560 --> 02:18:02,520 I would agree. 1842 02:18:02,700 --> 02:18:06,240 I don't think the way it is clear in the latitude to do what we need to do in the end. 1843 02:18:06,520 --> 02:18:06,680 Okay. 1844 02:18:06,780 --> 02:18:10,640 I read it the way I said it should be done and now we're getting back and forth. 1845 02:18:10,640 --> 02:18:14,120 So do we go with the original presentation or are we going to try to edit stuff? 1846 02:18:17,160 --> 02:18:22,580 Come to me. We're Brian. You're the only one to edit right now. I'm not following what you're asking. What okay? So 1847 02:18:23,940 --> 02:18:27,220 We do okay, just let's go down. We'll do this one of the times 1848 02:18:27,660 --> 02:18:31,700 Political groups will not be scheduled to meet at the Lakeway Activities Center 1849 02:18:32,700 --> 02:18:38,260 until 30 minutes after polls close. Do we all agree on that? Yes. Okay, great 1850 02:18:38,780 --> 02:18:43,080 The staff will coordinate with the city secretary to clearly mark election periods on the resident 1851 02:18:53,080 --> 02:19:03,060 We don't know every polling time now, and that's why that has open ended language. 1852 02:19:03,580 --> 02:19:05,120 Do we all agree that we can work with that? 1853 02:19:06,720 --> 02:19:07,240 Yes. 1854 02:19:07,720 --> 02:19:08,160 Okay, great. 1855 02:19:09,000 --> 02:19:12,820 Reservation agreements will now include election period restrictions and require knowledge 1856 02:19:12,820 --> 02:19:13,080 of employment. 1857 02:19:13,080 --> 02:19:15,280 by the applicants, straightforward. 1858 02:19:15,820 --> 02:19:16,940 So those four things, that's it. 1859 02:19:18,400 --> 02:19:22,860 I missed this on the first one, should we change it 1860 02:19:22,860 --> 02:19:24,240 from schedule to permitted? 1861 02:19:25,280 --> 02:19:26,500 Because they could be scheduled, 1862 02:19:26,720 --> 02:19:28,980 they might be scheduled, but then they could come in early. 1863 02:19:29,480 --> 02:19:32,540 Right, will not be permitted, okay, let's say that again. 1864 02:19:33,260 --> 02:19:35,780 Political groups will not be permitted to access 1865 02:19:35,780 --> 02:19:39,480 the Lakeway Activity Center until 30 minutes after polls close. 1866 02:19:40,120 --> 02:19:40,800 That's clear. 1867 02:19:40,800 --> 02:19:48,860 there. That's good. Okay, that's very specific. Okay. Does any further discussion? 1868 02:19:50,300 --> 02:19:54,420 We did before we admit. Perfect. I'll make a motion that we approve a 1869 02:19:54,420 --> 02:19:59,140 agenda item 25 as stated by the mayor and with the use of permitted instead of 1870 02:19:59,140 --> 02:20:05,580 scheduled in line one. I'll second that. Any further discussion? All those in 1871 02:20:05,580 --> 02:20:09,300 favor, please say aye. Raise your chair. Aye. Aye. All those opposed? Motion carries 1872 02:20:09,300 --> 02:20:14,860 unanimously. Thank you. All business of this council having been concluded. This meeting is adjourned at 934.