1 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:06,920 Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. We 2 00:00:06,920 --> 00:00:09,480 will call our workshop session to order. 3 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:13,360 It's 5:30, Monday, August the 24th, 4 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:16,880 2026. And uh 5 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:19,720 first order of discussion is discussion 6 00:00:19,720 --> 00:00:21,560 and update regarding Central Texas Water 7 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:23,640 Alliance meeting held on August the 8 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:24,960 12th, 9 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,480 2026. Mr. Steven Silver. 10 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:29,560 >> Good evening, Mayor and Council. I just 11 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:31,120 wanted to provide y'all with an update 12 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:32,640 regarding the latest Central Texas Water 13 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:34,440 Alliance meeting. They're currently in 14 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:35,880 phase two strategic planning and 15 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:37,680 assessment. Uh right now they're 16 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:39,520 assessing all membership data. Everyone 17 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:40,920 that's a member, including Leon passes, 18 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:42,720 provided long-range planning to the 19 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:44,480 water alliance. They're currently trying 20 00:00:44,480 --> 00:00:46,440 to determine where that fits in their 21 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:48,400 goals and how to align everybody to be 22 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:50,000 on the same page. 23 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:51,640 Um they've also developed a number of 24 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,000 strategic regional incentives. 25 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:55,560 Uh incentive number one, they look to 26 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:58,400 reserve a little over 66,000 acre feet 27 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:00,040 per year from the Lake Whitney 28 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,120 reallocation. Uh incentive initiative 29 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,080 number two, they look to leverage unused 30 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,840 water rights on Lake Belton for a an ASR 31 00:01:07,840 --> 00:01:09,360 project. We talked about this briefly. 32 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,320 They're looking to scalp the lake 33 00:01:11,320 --> 00:01:13,400 when it's discharging, take that water, 34 00:01:13,400 --> 00:01:14,880 deep well inject it, keep it in Central 35 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:17,080 Texas, essentially keeping it from run 36 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:18,520 all the way to essentially keeping it 37 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:20,800 from running all the way to the coast. 38 00:01:20,800 --> 00:01:23,040 Um initiative number three, 39 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:24,760 uh evaluate and seek groundwater 40 00:01:24,760 --> 00:01:26,960 opportunities. Uh number four, they look 41 00:01:26,960 --> 00:01:29,000 to develop regional raw reclaimed water 42 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:30,840 systems for industrial parks in Waco, 43 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:32,600 Robinson, and McGregor. 44 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:34,040 And then initiative number five is to 45 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:35,520 conduct a feasibility study on 46 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:37,840 acquisition of key water infrastructure. 47 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:39,720 To put it shortly, they just look to buy 48 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,400 any anything related to infrastructure 49 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:43,520 that they possibly can if it benefits 50 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,120 the long-term goal of the alliance. Um 51 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:48,240 they did receive a report from the BRA, 52 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,280 um the Bell house line, the raw water 53 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,040 line uh connecting Lake Belton to 54 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,880 Stillhouse is currently uh in its 60% 55 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:56,320 engineering design. 56 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,120 Uh they're still con- continuing 57 00:01:58,120 --> 00:01:59,600 easement acquisition and there is a 58 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:01,840 small typo on the next one. They look to 59 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,680 begin construction of that line in by 60 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:07,400 end of year 2027 beginning of 2028. What 61 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:09,520 this means for us is during the severe 62 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:10,759 drought that we went to it went through 63 00:02:10,759 --> 00:02:12,400 in the previous years where Stillhouse 64 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:13,760 was running 65 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:17,040 almost on empty, um 66 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:18,920 Lake Belton would continue to discharge 67 00:02:18,920 --> 00:02:21,040 into that uh possibly keeping it full. I 68 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:22,560 don't know to what extent, I don't know 69 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:23,959 where the discharge of Lake Belton is 70 00:02:23,959 --> 00:02:25,760 going to be in terms of depth, but 71 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:30,080 they're just simply looking to connect uh Lake Belton to Stillhouse. 72 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:31,200 And as you know, Stillhouse and 73 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:33,520 Georgetown are already connected. So, it 74 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,360 could potentially solve some surface 75 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,320 water issues during drought conditions, 76 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:40,400 which is of great news to Lampasas. 77 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,760 Um the next section is relatively 78 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:45,080 interesting. Uh Coryell Hydro Power uh 79 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,720 reports that they were able to uh dig a 80 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:49,400 test well somewhere in between cross 81 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:51,240 country between Gatesville and McGregor. 82 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:55,120 And what they determined was a series of 83 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,200 well, tectonic fracture systems, if you 84 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:58,640 will, um 85 00:02:58,640 --> 00:03:01,120 kind of hiding uh 86 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,920 a raw untapped water source. Uh the 87 00:03:03,920 --> 00:03:06,160 water's roughly 16,000 ft deep and about 88 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:09,239 300°. So, they they look to the 89 00:03:09,239 --> 00:03:11,840 possibility of using geothermal power to 90 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:13,280 actually treat the water in the long 91 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,840 run. Um they pitched this to the Water 92 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,519 Alliance. I don't see it taking traction 93 00:03:18,519 --> 00:03:20,040 cuz they're looking for a $5 million 94 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:23,600 investment and that's pretty stiff pitch 95 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:25,959 for not knowing exactly what the 96 00:03:25,959 --> 00:03:27,320 return's going to look like. They don't 97 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:29,320 know how how much water's really there. 98 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:30,480 They know that they know it's there, 99 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,160 they know it's deep, they know it's hot, 100 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:33,840 but in terms of capacity and how well it 101 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:35,720 replenishes itself, it's a big unknown. 102 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:37,120 So, for them to ask for a $5 million 103 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:40,320 investment is well, it's a lot. So, um I 104 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:41,600 don't know how that's going to play out, 105 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:43,440 but uh if any more 106 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:44,720 interesting information comes out of it, 107 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:46,160 I'll let you guys know. 108 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:47,880 Uh more importantly, they're reviewing 109 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:49,640 full membership status versus affiliate 110 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:51,680 status. So, they've got about 111 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,560 approximately five uh board positions 112 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:56,080 still left to fill. 113 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:57,680 They've been on the hold of filling 114 00:03:57,680 --> 00:03:59,720 those positions for about 2 months now. 115 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:01,760 And the reason they put them on hold is 116 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:03,080 cuz they were trying to determine how to 117 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,000 prioritize accepting these last 118 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:06,280 remaining memberships cuz they've only 119 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:07,959 got so many seats to fill and they've 120 00:04:07,959 --> 00:04:10,080 got more applicants than they do seats. 121 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,680 Um when it comes down to it, they are 122 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:14,160 trying to determine if we want to 123 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:15,760 prioritize based on first come, first 124 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,880 serve or if we want to give preference 125 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:20,880 to water providers that are also 126 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:22,240 wholesalers. 127 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:23,680 Um 128 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:25,320 in theory 129 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,120 I believe they should keep doing it the 130 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,680 way they in- initiated memberships in 131 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:31,160 the beginning is it was first come, 132 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,040 first serve. They didn't give preference 133 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,440 to providers {slash} wholesalers. And 134 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,040 mind you, had they given preference to 135 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:38,760 wholesalers, Lampasas would not be in a 136 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:40,800 membership status. Lampasas County 137 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:41,880 wouldn't even be on the board because 138 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:43,880 they're not a provider or a wholesaler. 139 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,600 So, I I disagree with the logic and 140 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:50,760 likely I will vote so. Um furthermore, 141 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:52,360 the general manager approached me via 142 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,360 email last week and wanted to know if 143 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,320 the city of Lampasas would be interested 144 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:58,200 in bumping down to an affiliate status 145 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,880 versus a full membership status. Um I 146 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:02,919 wanted to express that thought to you 147 00:05:02,919 --> 00:05:04,560 and tell you how much I disagree with 148 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:06,560 it. Um 149 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,240 it's not so much that we paid for a full 150 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:09,640 membership. 151 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:11,400 We When they opened the door, we got a 152 00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:14,120 seat at the table simply because it was 153 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:15,600 recommended that we have a seat at the 154 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:17,160 table to determine 155 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,160 what resources were going to be brought 156 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:20,360 to Central Texas and how we could 157 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,600 benefit from them. So, 158 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:24,960 if everyone's on board with it, I don't 159 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,480 intend to vote in favor of Lampasas 160 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:31,160 going to an affiliate position. It 161 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,360 And by affiliate position, I mean a 162 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:34,720 membership position with no voting 163 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:36,760 rights. So, you're allowed to come to 164 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:38,240 the table, you're allowed to speak, but 165 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:39,600 really when it comes down to it, you're 166 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,640 not allowed to vote. Um I think that 167 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,000 would be a poor representation of the 168 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:44,480 city of Lampasas to get a seat at the 169 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:46,600 table yet not to vote. Um 170 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:48,640 >> And with that, we're we're still 171 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:50,120 required to pay a fee? 172 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,520 >> Currently, membership fee and affiliate 173 00:05:52,520 --> 00:05:54,480 fees are the same. And membership fees 174 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,560 will likely go up next year or affiliate 175 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,160 fees will go down. But either way, there 176 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,240 will be a a membership There will be a 177 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:02,800 fee difference from membership to 178 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,240 affiliate going into the next year. Um 179 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,720 so, but either way, I would consider it unwise to bump down 180 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:09,480 to an affiliate status. 181 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:11,840 >> If they wanted, could they vote you down 182 00:06:11,840 --> 00:06:13,840 to affiliate or since we're one of the 183 00:06:13,840 --> 00:06:15,000 original 184 00:06:15,000 --> 00:06:16,600 >> Right now, we were simply asked if we'd 185 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:17,840 be willing to. It's not coming to a 186 00:06:17,840 --> 00:06:19,800 vote. And I will respond to such that we 187 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:21,919 are unwilling to. Um 188 00:06:21,919 --> 00:06:24,840 Furthermore, you know, I think 189 00:06:24,840 --> 00:06:27,040 in the upcoming years, as we as we if we 190 00:06:27,040 --> 00:06:28,680 stay a part of this, 191 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:29,600 um 192 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,000 year two, year three, we may strongly 193 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:33,440 want to consider what our role here is 194 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,320 going to be. Um do we want to continue 195 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,440 being part of the alliance, finally? Um 196 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,880 how does it benefit Lampasas? Um 197 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,160 can we help in any way? Those are all 198 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,520 great questions. 199 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:47,480 Their focus right now predominantly 200 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:49,160 seems to be on that I-35 corridor. It 201 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:50,440 seems to be McLennan and Bell County. 202 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,160 And rightfully so, it's heavily 203 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:53,560 populated. 204 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,400 I don't see the water alliance benefit 205 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:59,160 to Lampasas or Lampasas County. I'm not 206 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:00,520 seeing it to this day, but it's also 207 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,280 still too early to tell. Um and when 208 00:07:03,280 --> 00:07:04,800 that opportunity comes around the 209 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:06,880 corner, if and when there's a project 210 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:08,840 that does benefit Lampasas, 211 00:07:08,840 --> 00:07:10,800 are we seriously going to contemplate 212 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,720 investing large capital dollars 213 00:07:13,720 --> 00:07:15,800 and bringing another water resource to 214 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,040 Central Texas when quite frankly, we've 215 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,200 already secured ours? I ran some numbers 216 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,640 this morning, and we have roughly 5,500 217 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:24,760 acre-feet with the BRA. We're currently 218 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:26,760 using on average 219 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,120 almost 1,700 acre-feet a year. We're not 220 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:30,560 using half of the capacity that we 221 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:34,120 currently have. Granted, that capacity 222 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:35,840 can go through drought stages, which 223 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:37,440 hopefully the Bell House line would 224 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:39,320 solve some of those issues. 225 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:40,680 Um they're looking at doing doing 226 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:42,240 aquifer storage and recovery, taking 227 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:43,480 water from somewhere else, putting it 228 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:44,440 here. 229 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:45,640 We could do the same thing with Sulfur 230 00:07:45,640 --> 00:07:47,200 Creek if we really wanted to. We have 231 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:48,960 3,900 acre feet on Sulfur Creek. If we 232 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:50,640 wanted to do an ASR project with that to 233 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,000 keep it here in the drought months, we 234 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:53,880 could also do that as well. So, my my 235 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:55,320 point in relaying all this information 236 00:07:55,320 --> 00:07:57,760 over to you is I don't know that the 237 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:59,400 Water Alliance is going to be the great 238 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:01,440 big fix for the city of Lampasas. I 239 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,320 think our predecessors that met and 240 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:05,800 secured our water availability 241 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:07,880 agreements with the BRA and secured 242 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:08,960 these water rights with the state of 243 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:10,560 Texas, I believe to some degree it's 244 00:08:10,560 --> 00:08:12,840 already been secured. Um there's no 245 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:14,360 point in developing another resource. We 246 00:08:14,360 --> 00:08:16,120 just need to invest in what we have to 247 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:17,160 get it to where we want to be for the 248 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,680 next 20 to 30 years. But that being so, 249 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:21,680 it may be unwise to separate ourselves 250 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:22,919 from the alliance at this time. We may 251 00:08:22,919 --> 00:08:24,919 want to see how this is going to pan 252 00:08:24,919 --> 00:08:26,160 out. Um 253 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:27,600 like uh 254 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:29,240 membership 255 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,840 dues are roughly only $5,000 a year 256 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,719 right now. They may go up. Um 257 00:08:34,719 --> 00:08:35,880 you could look at that as a wise 258 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:37,560 investment to see where it's headed, or 259 00:08:37,560 --> 00:08:39,960 you could look at that as a burden that 260 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,360 we don't need to pay for anymore. Um 261 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:47,720 it's really up to you guys. Um but uh my state on this is we we stay in a full 262 00:08:47,720 --> 00:08:49,400 membership status. We don't bump down to 263 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:50,920 affiliate. I think it would be wise to 264 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:52,640 hang on for the next at least one more 265 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:55,920 year to see where it takes us. And 266 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:56,920 at some point we're going to have to 267 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:58,240 determine if we want to stay on it in 268 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,120 the long term or give our seat to 269 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:01,120 someone that is actually going to 270 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:03,160 benefit from the Water Alliance. 271 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:04,680 All good decisions to be had. 272 00:09:04,680 --> 00:09:07,120 >> Steven, what other entities or 273 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:10,040 organizations are looking at um the 274 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:11,200 affiliate status? 275 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:15,320 >> Um I only know of one. They didn't they didn't uh relay them all off. I 276 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,600 only know of one because well, I I know 277 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:19,400 the company. So, the Central Texas Water 278 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:20,960 Supply Corporation is one of the members 279 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:22,520 knocking on the door. 280 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:24,400 That is why I believe they're asking us 281 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:26,280 to step down to an affiliate status is 282 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,120 because our wholesaler 283 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:29,240 is actually asking for a full 284 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:30,560 membership. 285 00:09:30,560 --> 00:09:32,240 And 286 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:34,200 if it was a traditional relationship, I 287 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:35,600 would say that's not a bad decision to 288 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:37,640 make if they're equally representing us. 289 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:39,400 But as we all know, we're not entirely 290 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:40,640 sure if the city of Texas is equally 291 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:41,960 representing us. So, why would we want 292 00:09:41,960 --> 00:09:43,320 to step down 293 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,880 at this time? Just my opinion. 294 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:47,480 But then there's a there's a handful of 295 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:49,800 others. I I don't know who they all are. 296 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:51,760 Um 297 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:56,030 Any other questions? 298 00:09:56,040 --> 00:10:01,350 Thank you. 299 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:02,960 » Number three, discussion regarding the 300 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:07,120 comprehensive fund balance policy. 301 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:09,240 >> Good evening, Mayor and Council. Um you 302 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,960 have on the agenda later this evening 303 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,640 possible change to our fund balance 304 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,040 policy. Our fund balance policy hasn't 305 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,720 been updated since 2013. 306 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:21,320 Um and there are a couple of items that 307 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,720 I would like to propose to change. 308 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:27,120 Currently, the policy is written that um 309 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,400 we'll observe a 35% fund balance in the 310 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,320 general fund, electric fund, and water 311 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:37,440 fund. And anything in excess of the 35% 312 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:39,640 will be made available for capital 313 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,040 purchases. It's also written in such a 314 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:44,280 way that the 35% 315 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:47,000 number is applied to the most recently 316 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,480 completed audited fiscal year. So, the 317 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:53,400 reserves necessary for this year going 318 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,800 into next budget year are based on our 319 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:59,120 operating numbers from FY 25. So, we're 320 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:00,400 running 321 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,560 It's not necessarily applying that 322 00:11:02,560 --> 00:11:06,120 reserve balance to our current operating 323 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:07,680 expenditures. 324 00:11:07,680 --> 00:11:09,520 Um so, I would like to update that to 325 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,800 bring it to the current fiscal year or 326 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:14,400 the next fiscal year when we're 327 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:18,040 presenting um this sheet during budget. 328 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:19,400 Additionally, I would like to propose 329 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,440 that we look at changing the percentage, 330 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:24,280 the 35%, 331 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:27,080 to a number of operating days. 332 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:27,720 Um 333 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,800 you know, we have this reserve 334 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:34,080 policy in case there were a major 335 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,120 emergency within the city, the city 336 00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:37,840 could keep operating if there weren't 337 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,600 any revenues coming into the city. The 338 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:44,280 likelihood that that lasts for 339 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,360 4 plus months is is quite unlikely 340 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:49,320 without us receiving some additional 341 00:11:49,320 --> 00:11:51,800 assistance. So, what I've proposed in 342 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:56,240 this fund balance policy is 90 days for 343 00:11:56,240 --> 00:12:02,110 the general fund, 3 months of operating. 344 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,760 120 days for the electric fund. 345 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:07,560 You could recommend higher, but as the 346 00:12:07,560 --> 00:12:11,880 city doesn't own its own substations, 347 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:13,800 if we're not on the hook if one of those 348 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:15,840 large transformers go out, so it's not 349 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,440 as expensive to replace those. And then 350 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,480 also 120 days in the water fund. So, 351 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:23,920 it's not that far off percentage-wise 352 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:25,880 other than in the general fund, it would 353 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:29,600 drop from 35% to about 25%. 354 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,400 Um, but it still maintains a consistent 355 00:12:32,400 --> 00:12:34,800 fund balance for operations in case of 356 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:36,920 an emergency. Monica, if you could go to 357 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,520 page 69 of the packet. 358 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:42,360 Um, the existing policy is also written 359 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:45,560 that in the order of reserves spent, you 360 00:12:45,560 --> 00:12:48,480 would spend your most restricted funds 361 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,760 first and your least restricted funds 362 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:53,200 last. And I think that's kind of 363 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:54,880 counterintuitive because if you've 364 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:56,920 restricted funds for a particular 365 00:12:56,920 --> 00:12:58,480 purpose, that means you've been saving 366 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,720 up for that purpose. And you would think 367 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,160 that you would spend the free available 368 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:05,120 dollars before you would spend the more 369 00:13:05,120 --> 00:13:08,760 restricted funds. It also the policy the 370 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:11,040 proposed policy implements 371 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:13,880 mandatory reporting, so twice a year um, 372 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:15,760 council would get an update on fund 373 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,200 balance and fund balance projections. 374 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:21,880 And it also establishes a timeline for 375 00:13:21,880 --> 00:13:24,640 if a fund is below the recommended fund 376 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:27,920 balance, what steps are we taking within 377 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:31,320 2 years to get that funds to our reserve 378 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:37,160 policy? So page 69 is basically 379 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,920 our existing policy except I did apply 380 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:41,480 35% 381 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:43,560 to the upcoming fiscal year rather than 382 00:13:43,560 --> 00:13:45,200 FY25 383 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:46,440 to give you an apples-to-apples 384 00:13:46,440 --> 00:13:50,920 comparison. So with current reserves or 385 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,000 fund balance, the general fund is 386 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:56,080 currently at 31.26% 387 00:13:56,080 --> 00:13:58,200 or $519,000 388 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:01,000 shy of that 35% 389 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,560 reserve fund goal. You can scroll down a 390 00:14:03,560 --> 00:14:06,120 little bit, Monica. 391 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:07,640 You'll see that the electric fund is at 392 00:14:07,640 --> 00:14:09,520 51.19% 393 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,760 with $2.12 million in excess above the 394 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:14,920 35%. 395 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:18,600 And then the water fund is at 29.92% 396 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,080 which is $277,000 397 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,840 shy of the 35% 398 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,520 fund balance requirement in our policy. 399 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:28,240 If you scroll to the next page which is 400 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:30,120 the proposed policy and you apply the 401 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:31,800 number of days 402 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,680 that I proposed versus the percentage 403 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,080 method, you'll see that that flips the 404 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:38,720 general fund 405 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:42,240 to hold what we would have in reserves 406 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,560 estimated at the end of FY27 407 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:50,200 is 114 operating days. So $919,000 408 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,240 excess in reserves in the general fund. 409 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:56,800 The electric fund would be at 187 days, 410 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:00,320 $2.4 million excess. And the water fund 411 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:01,839 is still 412 00:15:01,839 --> 00:15:03,920 tracking a little low 413 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,200 but about $110,000 414 00:15:06,200 --> 00:15:09,600 less than the 35%. 415 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,560 I think what this might show you is 416 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:14,839 we're here to be stewards of our 417 00:15:14,839 --> 00:15:17,880 taxpayer and our utility payers' money. 418 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:22,960 And I understand being conservative and 419 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:24,800 really building up a fund balance, but 420 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:27,680 at some point there's a balance between 421 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,560 being good stewards and not responsibly 422 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:32,920 spending our taxpayers money when we 423 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:36,520 have some funds that have so much excess 424 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:38,720 in reserve. Whether you're looking at 425 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:40,560 the 35% 426 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,080 or the 120 days. 427 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,240 So that's the basis of my 428 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,320 recommendation for changes for the fund 429 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,000 balance policy. Of course, it's 430 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:51,600 certainly up for questions and and 431 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:52,520 conversation. 432 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,920 >> Does this play into financial auditing 433 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:59,200 purposes at all or do they look at both 434 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:00,840 when they're doing an outside audit? 435 00:16:00,840 --> 00:16:05,190 >> They'll look at our adopted policy. 436 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:06,760 » It seems that this is a 437 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:08,840 looking at number of days versus 438 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:12,040 percentages a pretty common governmental 439 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:12,680 standard. 440 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:15,840 >> You'll find it both ways. 441 00:16:15,840 --> 00:16:18,160 >> I've run into number of days more often, 442 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:18,640 I guess. 443 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:24,310 >> Sure. 444 00:16:24,320 --> 00:16:25,680 » Any other questions? 445 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,720 >> I'd be on board for it. Seem like the 446 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:30,440 proper thing to do at this time in the 447 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:32,520 world we're living in. 448 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:34,320 I think that's a would be a good avenue 449 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,390 for us. 450 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:38,400 » I do 451 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:41,000 kind of as a caveat to this, you know, 452 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,839 at our last meeting I said that I 453 00:16:43,839 --> 00:16:45,440 wouldn't recommend decreasing our 454 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,800 electric rate at this time, but I do 455 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:49,839 think given this information that we're 456 00:16:49,839 --> 00:16:52,720 looking at now that we have room to do 457 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,040 that. 458 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:56,440 >> Appreciate your hard work 459 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:57,000 >> Thank you. 460 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:58,280 >> putting this together. 461 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:00,200 And how how soon can we reduce the 462 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:01,040 electric rate? 463 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:02,720 >> We'll adopt it with our fee schedule to 464 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:04,400 take effect October 1. 465 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:05,800 >> Okay. 466 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:06,959 >> Did you have a question? 467 00:17:06,959 --> 00:17:08,360 >> No, I was just going to make a comment. 468 00:17:08,360 --> 00:17:09,640 I'm in agreement that you know, we're 469 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,120 stewards with our with taxpayers money 470 00:17:12,120 --> 00:17:13,120 and 471 00:17:13,120 --> 00:17:14,839 I don't think government should ever 472 00:17:14,839 --> 00:17:16,839 feel like they can spend 473 00:17:16,839 --> 00:17:18,560 our citizens money better than they can, 474 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:19,959 so 475 00:17:19,959 --> 00:17:21,240 there's no reason to hold on to that 476 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,920 much cash if we don't have to. 477 00:17:24,920 --> 00:17:27,040 >> If we have to if we go to the number of 478 00:17:27,040 --> 00:17:28,360 days 479 00:17:28,360 --> 00:17:31,000 is that an ongoing analysis and review 480 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:32,400 of the finance department? 481 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,560 >> So, we'll I'll do this twice a year. 482 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:35,920 We'll do it in March when we're 483 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:37,560 beginning our budgeting process 484 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:40,880 internally, and then there will be one 485 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,600 in your budget book that you receive 486 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,600 later that summer. Okay. We'll report to 487 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:47,240 you twice a year on 488 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,800 fund balance. 489 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:51,240 Okay. 490 00:17:51,240 --> 00:17:52,280 >> Now, this 491 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:53,800 uh 492 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,120 what's in excess can only be used for 493 00:17:56,120 --> 00:17:57,520 capital improvements, or how does that 494 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:57,800 work? 495 00:17:57,800 --> 00:17:59,640 >> It is recommended that it's used for 496 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:01,840 one-time capital improvements, and that 497 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,880 is in the policy. Um 498 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,200 obviously, if you're drawing down on 499 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,600 fund balance to support the cost of 500 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:12,880 recurring expenditures, so personnel, 501 00:18:12,880 --> 00:18:15,600 for example, those costs don't go away, 502 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:17,640 but the reserves eventually will. 503 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:18,160 >> Yeah. 504 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:19,960 >> And so, it's recommended that it's used 505 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,360 for capital projects rather than ongoing 506 00:18:22,360 --> 00:18:23,480 expenditures. 507 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:26,000 >> So, water capital improvement projects 508 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:27,360 can be included in that? 509 00:18:27,360 --> 00:18:28,840 >> Yes. 510 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:32,790 >> Thank you. 511 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:34,000 Anyone else? 512 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:41,790 Thank you, Mr. 513 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:43,800 Discussion regarding any item on record 514 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:47,360 session for August 24th, 2026. No action 515 00:18:47,360 --> 00:18:50,560 to be taken during workshop session. 516 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,360 >> I have an item I wanted to just mention. 517 00:18:53,360 --> 00:18:55,400 In the department reports 518 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,680 uh that are in our packet 519 00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:59,640 there's a really incredible report from 520 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,000 the library department uh from our 521 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:03,520 library the kind of work that they've 522 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:06,200 done with the staff, the director, and 523 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:07,360 the board 524 00:19:07,360 --> 00:19:10,320 on improving and reaching out to our um 525 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,120 citizens with different kinds of 526 00:19:12,120 --> 00:19:14,400 services and different kinds of programs 527 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:18,120 to to be important to our people and our 528 00:19:18,120 --> 00:19:20,280 community. I just think that is 529 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,280 something that's commendable and we have 530 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:23,880 we don't often tell our people thank 531 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:27,200 you. And I just like to hear that from 532 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,360 all of us once in a while and and this 533 00:19:29,360 --> 00:19:34,150 is one of those times. 534 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:38,310 » Anything else? 535 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,240 Number five, discussion regarding any 536 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,280 items not included on the regular 537 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:45,120 session for August 24th, 2026 for 538 00:19:45,120 --> 00:19:47,920 consideration on the future agenda. 539 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:49,640 No action can be taken by the city 540 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:54,230 council. 541 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:56,320 And there is none. 542 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:57,880 And can I get a motion to adjourn 543 00:19:57,880 --> 00:19:58,720 workshop? 544 00:19:58,720 --> 00:19:59,440 >> So moved. 545 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:00,280 >> Second. 546 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:01,360 >> All in favor? 547 00:20:01,360 --> 00:20:03,160 >> Aye. 548 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:05,560 >> And that will move us into our regular 549 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:18,350 session. We'll call to order. All rise. 550 00:20:18,360 --> 00:20:19,720 Let us pray. 551 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:20,920 Dear heavenly Father, we couldn't be 552 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:22,120 more grateful to be in this great 553 00:20:22,120 --> 00:20:24,400 community of Lampasas tonight. 554 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,320 In this great facility and most good 555 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:27,360 people. 556 00:20:27,360 --> 00:20:29,080 We ask that you be with us, be with our 557 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:31,560 council, be with our citizens. Help us 558 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,080 to make some good decisions, exchange 559 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,000 some good information. 560 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:36,440 And until you can meet again, we ask 561 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:38,080 that you be blessed and safe. And as 562 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,720 always, we pray in Jesus' name. Amen. 563 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:41,800 >> Amen. 564 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,160 >> Do you all want me to pledge? 565 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,520 >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the 566 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:48,640 United States of America 567 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,440 and to the republic for which it stands, 568 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:53,600 one nation under God, 569 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:56,000 indivisible, with liberty and justice 570 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:57,320 for all. 571 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,400 Honor the Texas flag. 572 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:02,360 I pledge allegiance to the Texas flag, 573 00:21:02,360 --> 00:21:03,280 one state 574 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:23,990 under God, one and indivisible. 575 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,520 Tonight we have a a special group of 576 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:30,030 folks here with us tonight. 577 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:32,360 It uh 578 00:21:32,360 --> 00:21:34,800 it's a tough one for me and as well as 579 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:41,240 it is for I I can't even imagine what Adrian has been through in the last 580 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,800 several months with the loss of 581 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:47,120 Adela and uh 582 00:21:47,120 --> 00:21:50,400 I felt like I wanted to say thank you, 583 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,680 Adrian, to you and your team for what 584 00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,080 you had 585 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,840 contributed to our community. 586 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,440 Most importantly, what Adela 587 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,800 has contributed 588 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:06,040 into our community. 589 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:07,840 Uh 590 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:11,360 we probably don't know how many taxpayer 591 00:22:11,360 --> 00:22:14,480 or taxes that your group has paid into 592 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,120 this city. 593 00:22:16,120 --> 00:22:18,600 And uh 594 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:19,920 got uh 595 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:21,560 Mr. Finney. 596 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,280 He's got uh 597 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,320 a couple of comments 598 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:26,520 tonight. 599 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:27,880 He's from our 600 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:32,870 economic development director. 601 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:34,480 » On behalf of the Economic Development 602 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:36,240 Corporation, I along with the other 603 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,280 members of the EDC would like to express 604 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,040 our sincere appreciation for your 605 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,640 continued commitment to Lenexa's 606 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,320 economic growth. 607 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:45,880 Your businesses have made a meaningful 608 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,400 impact on our local economy and provided 609 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:50,240 jobs for many people. 610 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:51,720 We are grateful for your role in 611 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,240 fostering a thriving business 612 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:55,400 environment and for being an important 613 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,680 member of our community. 614 00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,080 We would also like to extend our 615 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:00,640 heartfelt condolences to you and your 616 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,120 family for the loss of Adela. 617 00:23:03,120 --> 00:23:07,110 Thank you. 618 00:23:07,120 --> 00:23:08,880 » And this evening, I'm taking the 619 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,280 opportunity offer 620 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,200 the council and my personal heartfelt 621 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:15,760 condolences 622 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:17,360 to Adrian 623 00:23:17,360 --> 00:23:20,040 and his three children 624 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:24,360 and his entire extended family 625 00:23:24,360 --> 00:23:26,680 and his team that's with him here 626 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,520 tonight 627 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:31,880 concerning the recent ultimate death 628 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:35,520 of Adrian's wife, Adela Villa, and their 629 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,880 14-year-old son, Adrian Frias 630 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:42,280 on February the 28th, March 1st 631 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,040 when the car they were in was struck by 632 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,520 another driver. 633 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:50,120 As most people know in town, Adrian and 634 00:23:50,120 --> 00:23:52,000 Adela started working in the restaurant 635 00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,760 business in Lampasas many, many years 636 00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:55,920 ago. 637 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:57,920 Over the years through extremely 638 00:23:57,920 --> 00:23:59,880 demanding work, they had become 639 00:23:59,880 --> 00:24:03,720 successful owners and operators of two 640 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:05,720 very well-loved, busy restaurants in 641 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:07,200 Lampasas 642 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,320 Giovanni's and El Frias. 643 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,640 For decades, Adrian and Adela have also 644 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,480 been active citizens and participants in 645 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,560 the Lampasas community 646 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:20,360 as well as staying involved with their 647 00:24:20,360 --> 00:24:21,680 children's 648 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:25,040 lives, education, activity 649 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:26,520 including 650 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:30,520 Adrian Jr.'s involvement in soccer. 651 00:24:30,520 --> 00:24:34,080 The Frias family are notable examples 652 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:36,600 of the optimistic, industrious, 653 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:38,360 enterprise spirit that has played a 654 00:24:38,360 --> 00:24:40,080 critical role 655 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,680 in the ongoing economic growth of our 656 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:44,960 community. 657 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:48,120 We, the council, city staff, we want to 658 00:24:48,120 --> 00:24:51,720 express to you guys 659 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,520 our heartfelt appreciation for the hard 660 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:58,000 work and dedication to the success 661 00:24:58,000 --> 00:25:01,800 that Adrian and Adela 662 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,280 and their families, including Adrian 663 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,760 Jr., have given over the years to help 664 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,400 build 665 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,800 and feed the city. 666 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:12,680 Only a few citizens have achieved the 667 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,960 position of respect and high esteem 668 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,640 that Adrian and Adela have in the city. 669 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,960 Because of their business acumen, 670 00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:26,160 diligence, and extraordinary work ethic, 671 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,640 Adela and Adrian Jr.'s absence will be 672 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,040 felt in Lampasas 673 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:33,360 forever. 674 00:25:33,360 --> 00:25:34,720 Finally, 675 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,560 I personally want to thank 676 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:39,800 to be sure Adrian knows that I 677 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:42,400 personally stand behind him 678 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,160 and mourn deeply with him now. 679 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:47,840 And I think our council would express 680 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,880 the same thing 681 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,520 in the darkest of times. 682 00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,680 And I know 683 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,440 God's with you guys. 684 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,320 I've seen him work, 685 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:02,200 and it's been miraculously 686 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,680 that you guys are here today. 687 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:08,120 And today, on behalf of the city 688 00:26:08,120 --> 00:26:10,080 and the city council, 689 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,320 Adrian, I want you to come forth on a 690 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:31,230 present to you the keys of the city. 691 00:26:31,240 --> 00:28:30,390 It's my pleasure. 692 00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:32,600 » Adrian, if you guys if you guys want to 693 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,800 leave now or you can certainly or 694 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,280 welcome to stay for the whole city 695 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,480 council meeting. May get a little boring 696 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:44,750 after that. 697 00:28:44,760 --> 00:29:27,110 Thank you guys. We love you. 698 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:28,920 All right, that'll take us to our public 699 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,200 hearing citizens comment. We have a 700 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,560 3-minute time limit. 701 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,440 Citizens comment, any citizen who 702 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,360 desires to address the city council on a 703 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,680 matter not included on this agenda may 704 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:41,880 do so at this time. 705 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,800 For possible posting and discussion by 706 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,640 city council 707 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:47,520 on future agenda the city council may 708 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,560 not deliberate 709 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:51,800 on items presented up underneath this 710 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:58,310 agenda item and we have none. 711 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:01,080 1.2 any citizen who desires to address 712 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:02,760 the city council on a matter that is 713 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,800 included on the agenda may do so at this 714 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:08,040 time and we have none. 715 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,440 Consent agenda discussion and possible 716 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:12,200 action regarding the approval of minutes 717 00:30:12,200 --> 00:30:14,240 on the regular meeting held on August 718 00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,710 10th, 2026. 719 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,600 » I move to approve the consent agenda. 720 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:21,280 >> Second. 721 00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,040 >> Any discussion? 722 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:24,080 All in favor. 723 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:25,800 >> Aye. 724 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:36,270 >> Boards and department report. 725 00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:45,990 » Good evening Mayor and council. 726 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,240 » I'm going to sit here. 727 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:49,680 I can go by memory, but I don't think 728 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:52,400 it'll work out well. 729 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,750 There it 730 00:30:55,760 --> 00:31:05,270 a week. 731 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:09,590 Stand by. 732 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:10,880 Got it. 733 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,400 All right. 734 00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,640 So, the department overview, uh we have 735 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:17,680 a full-time staff of 15 personnel. 12 of 736 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:19,360 those are operations, three of them 737 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:20,760 administration. 738 00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,320 Um that's the fire chief, the assistant 739 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,560 chief, and the fire marshal. Uh we have 740 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:26,360 a part-time staff of seven. Those are 741 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:28,600 utilized as needed uh when we have a 742 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,800 vacancy, if somebody takes off vacation, 743 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,720 calls in sick, we fill that seat with a 744 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,040 part-timer if they're available. 745 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,880 Um our shift schedules are 48/96. So, 746 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,400 it's 48 on, 96 off. 747 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:43,200 Uh on each shift, we have a captain, a 748 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,920 driver, and two firefighters. 749 00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:47,680 Our facilities work we have one fire 750 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,240 station that we share with the volunteer 751 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:50,680 fire department, and then we have the 752 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,720 administration office. 753 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,200 Uh we run uh we have two engines, so 754 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,000 2023 and a 2011. We have one ladder 755 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,080 truck, which is a 2001. 756 00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:02,800 We have a brush truck that's a 2004. 757 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,240 Um my vehicle is a 2023. 758 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:06,400 Um 759 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:08,360 The assistant chief's vehicle is a 2012. 760 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,880 Fire marshal's is a 2011. 761 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,400 And then we have a support vehicle that 762 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:14,000 we use to pull our little trailer 763 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,160 around. It's a 2005. 764 00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,360 And then we also have a 2006 Polaris 765 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,040 Ranger that we use 766 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,920 for different 767 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,040 things. 768 00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,400 So, our operations division, uh we cover 769 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,160 fires, EMS, accidents, swift water 770 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,440 rescue calls, and everything in between. 771 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,200 Uh we also provide uh mutual aid 772 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,960 assistance to Lampasas County Um all the 773 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:45,030 way into Burnet County as well. 774 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:46,440 Uh Fire Marshal's office, he's 775 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,160 responsible for all annual fire 776 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:49,760 inspections in the city, fire 777 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,920 investigations in the city and in the 778 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:53,520 county. We have an agreement with 779 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,880 Lampasas County and also with the city 780 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,280 of Lometa 781 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,000 uh that he provides fire investigations 782 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:00,160 for. 783 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:01,520 Um 784 00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:03,040 he is in charge of all the public 785 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:05,480 education programs, uh smoke detector 786 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:07,280 install program, 787 00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:08,000 uh 788 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,440 extinguisher classes throughout the 789 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,240 city. We do a lot of them with assisted 790 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,520 living and a lot of your 791 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:15,160 elderly 792 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,960 facilities. He does all the he schedules 793 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:19,840 all those classes and he's also in 794 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,400 charge of all the school fire safety 795 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,430 programs. 796 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:27,080 He does a lot. 797 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:28,680 This year uh 798 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,840 we're up we ran 1,798 calls. We're up 799 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:36,480 12.82% from last year. Of those calls uh 800 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,120 EMS, rescue, motor vehicle collisions 801 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,440 was 1,426. 802 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,840 372 of those were fire-related calls. Uh 803 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,240 331, which is 18.4% of those were 804 00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,000 overlapping, which meant we were on a 805 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,480 call when we got called to another one. 806 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,800 Uh some of those were even three calls 807 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,270 back-to-back. Um 808 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:00,400 uh 809 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:02,920 Our city, we broke it into four 810 00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:05,760 geographic zones, uh northwest, 811 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,360 southwest, northeast, and southeast. 812 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:09,159 Uh 813 00:34:09,159 --> 00:34:14,919 you can see there the uh northwest is at 21%, southwest 814 00:34:14,919 --> 00:34:16,480 24%, 815 00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:17,399 uh 816 00:34:17,399 --> 00:34:19,159 northeast. Our 817 00:34:19,159 --> 00:34:20,639 busiest uh 818 00:34:20,639 --> 00:34:23,040 parts of the city are in the southeast. 819 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,560 Um we ran 48 calls in Lampasas County, 820 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,240 which is about 2 and 1/2% and we ran 821 00:34:28,240 --> 00:34:32,560 three calls in Burnet County this year. 822 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:33,480 Uh 823 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:34,840 training and professional development 824 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,560 this year we've 825 00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,960 had currently have six members enrolled 826 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,280 in the aerial operator certification 827 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,440 course. Uh 828 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,480 The assistant chief attended year one of 829 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,679 the Texas Fire Chiefs Academy. We uh had 830 00:34:48,679 --> 00:34:50,200 two members attend the Fire Marshals 831 00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,280 Conference. Uh we have four members that 832 00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:53,919 uh 833 00:34:53,919 --> 00:34:56,080 obtained swift water rescue technician 834 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:58,040 certification in Tarrant Tarrant County 835 00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:00,240 College which almost brings our 836 00:35:00,240 --> 00:35:02,280 department up to 100% swift water 837 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:04,280 certified. 838 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:06,160 Uh we have one member that attended boat 839 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:07,760 operations with the Texas Parks and 840 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,400 Wildlife Division. 841 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,240 And 100% of our department obtained 842 00:35:11,240 --> 00:35:13,000 wildland firefighting certifications 843 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,160 this year. 844 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,760 And one member just obtained his fire 845 00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,280 and life safety educator certification. 846 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:21,200 Um in addition to that we've logged two 847 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,080 over 2,030 additional training hours for 848 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:27,750 all full-time personnel. 849 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,400 This year we were able to replace a 850 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,760 outdated SCBA fill station. We thank you 851 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,920 very much for that. Uh 852 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:37,040 I've got it on order. We were able to 853 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:39,200 purchase a huge rescue raft to aid in 854 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,080 swift water rescue incidents. Um the 855 00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:43,720 hydrant maintenance program is fully 856 00:35:43,720 --> 00:35:46,120 operational. What that is is we have 857 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,080 touched We're at about 90% of the fire 858 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:50,640 hydrants in the city have been touched 859 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,160 by our guys this year. They've been 860 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,600 flowed, they've been greased. Um a lot 861 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,320 of them have been painted. Uh 862 00:35:57,320 --> 00:35:59,800 we ran out of paint but for next budget 863 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:01,720 year we'll be right back on it but 864 00:36:01,720 --> 00:36:03,720 um that just assures us that those fire 865 00:36:03,720 --> 00:36:05,080 hydrants are going to work when we need 866 00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:06,760 them and it gives y'all peace of mind 867 00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:08,960 knowing that we've done it. 868 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,160 Uh 869 00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:12,320 we were able to promote an assistant 870 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,400 chief internally this year. Uh 871 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:16,720 we 872 00:36:16,720 --> 00:36:18,160 started an automatic aid agreement with 873 00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:19,880 Lampasas Volunteer Fire Department which 874 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:22,000 allows them as soon as we're toned to a 875 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,920 house fire they automatically get toned 876 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,600 so that we're not waiting 877 00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:28,560 for additional personnel. Um same goes 878 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,240 for them. We We're going to send 879 00:36:30,240 --> 00:36:33,200 somebody to help them. 880 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:34,720 And we've had two members this year 881 00:36:34,720 --> 00:36:35,960 achieve master firefighter 882 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,560 certification. 883 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,480 That is a picture of the Airfield 884 00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:41,920 station that 885 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,800 y'all allowed us to purchase. 886 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:44,560 Um 887 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:46,280 hopefully it'll be in soon. 888 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:49,920 And that is the rescue raft that we 889 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,150 were able to obtain. 890 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:54,360 Um some of the challenges that we're 891 00:36:54,360 --> 00:37:00,920 facing right now our overtime budget is pretty extensive because of our our 892 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:02,920 minimum staffing. 893 00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,680 is four. Anytime 894 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:09,160 somebody takes off, we have to fill that seat. 895 00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:10,960 We have state mandated laws that require 896 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,880 us to have a certain amount of staffing. 897 00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:15,080 Um 898 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:16,600 our apparatus 899 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,720 our ladder truck is 25 years old, our 900 00:37:18,720 --> 00:37:21,080 brush truck is 22 years old, and they've 901 00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:22,520 reached their end of service life by 902 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,960 national standards. We've also got two 903 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:26,600 staff vehicles that are at the end of 904 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,720 their service life. 905 00:37:28,720 --> 00:37:30,400 Uh facilities 906 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,560 we have some station upgrades needed for 907 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,640 growth and safety improvements. And then 908 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:36,760 uh 909 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,680 we have a continued need for specialized 910 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,920 rescue and leadership training. 911 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,880 Uh goals for '26 '27 uh 912 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:46,920 again like last year I'd like to try and 913 00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:48,960 seek funding for a swift water rescue 914 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,120 boat. Uh we were very fortunate this 915 00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,040 year we didn't have as many 916 00:37:53,040 --> 00:37:55,880 flood calls as we did the year prior. 917 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:56,920 Um 918 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:58,360 we're going to continue community risk 919 00:37:58,360 --> 00:37:59,880 reduction programs in schools and 920 00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:01,720 neighborhood. The fire marshal is doing 921 00:38:01,720 --> 00:38:03,600 a great job with that. 922 00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:04,400 Uh 923 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,280 replace aging apparatus and upgrade 924 00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,680 firefighting equipment. Um 925 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,480 that's kind of at the top of the list 926 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:11,520 and 927 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,360 extra expand training partnerships with 928 00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:15,760 surrounding departments. We're currently 929 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,760 working on that where we can utilize 930 00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:19,680 some of the 931 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,760 fire training facilities in our 932 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,040 neighborhood 933 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:28,230 at neighboring departments. 934 00:38:28,240 --> 00:38:29,960 That's it. Do you have any questions for 935 00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,990 me? 936 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,080 » All right. One question on the swift 937 00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,480 water rescue boat. Uh 938 00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,880 SCAG or SCRA, do they offer any kind of 939 00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,200 grant, any assistance to help us obtain 940 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:42,720 that? 941 00:38:42,720 --> 00:38:44,240 >> There are grants out there and we have 942 00:38:44,240 --> 00:38:45,920 applied for a couple of the grants and 943 00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,520 were unsuccessful. 944 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,400 Uh 945 00:38:49,400 --> 00:38:54,360 boats aren't a top priority on a grant 946 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,160 for a lot of grant people that that give 947 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:56,800 the grants. 948 00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,520 >> Is there a life on a boat as well as far 949 00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:01,600 as a national standard that you know 10 950 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:03,400 year, 15 year 951 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:05,280 Yeah, or is it 952 00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,760 the the the bit the actual equipment as 953 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,360 long as it's held up to standard? 954 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,560 >> On a boat as long as it's held up to 955 00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,440 standards uh 956 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:14,760 you know, they don't get used near as 957 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,120 often as fire trucks. 958 00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:20,840 So, they tend to last a lot longer. 959 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,520 >> Couple of things. Um you had mentioned 960 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,240 overtime for staff. Is that 961 00:39:26,240 --> 00:39:28,120 Are you Are you saying that you need 962 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:29,800 more people to kind of bring down the 963 00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,920 overtime or what is that? 964 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,640 >> Yes. So, right now we have a minimum of 965 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,800 four um that we have to keep. Uh state 966 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:38,560 law requires us to have a two in two out 967 00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:40,280 rule, which means if two people's in a 968 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,960 house, two people have to be outside. 969 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:44,760 Um so 970 00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:46,080 uh 971 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:47,520 in order to maintain that, we have to 972 00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,040 have full man staffing on the engine. Uh 973 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,200 if somebody takes off vacation or calls 974 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,800 in sick or is out on a an extended leave 975 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,200 uh for injury, we try to fill that 976 00:39:58,200 --> 00:39:59,920 position with a part-timer. 977 00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:01,840 Um unfortunately, all those part-timers 978 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,720 have full-time jobs somewhere else. They 979 00:40:03,720 --> 00:40:05,040 work at another fire department 980 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:06,200 somewhere. 981 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:12,320 And so, trying to get them to fill those slots is you know, we do our best, 982 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,520 but if we can't, we have to fill it with 983 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:15,920 a full-time 984 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:17,240 uh personnel. 985 00:40:17,240 --> 00:40:19,920 >> Uh did we do that at one time as 986 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:21,760 volunteer 987 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:23,640 firefighters? 988 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,160 >> So, since I've I've 989 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:28,160 came on board here, um they were in the 990 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:30,880 middle of a separation when I got here. 991 00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:32,240 Uh so, now there's two separate 992 00:40:32,240 --> 00:40:35,120 entities. So, we share the same house, 993 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:36,880 but we're two separate entities. 994 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,590 >> Okay. 995 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:40,760 What did you spend last year in 996 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,440 overtime? 997 00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:45,040 >> Last year was 170 998 00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:46,760 2,000. 999 00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,200 And this year we're at 100 1000 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,160 We're at 180 1001 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:55,240 >> So, you're asking for 1002 00:40:55,240 --> 00:40:57,280 saying that you need one additional 1003 00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:58,960 person per shift. Is that what you're 1004 00:40:58,960 --> 00:40:59,320 saying? 1005 00:40:59,320 --> 00:40:59,960 >> Yes. 1006 00:40:59,960 --> 00:41:02,480 >> What would that cost? 1007 00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,680 >> Um base salary 1008 00:41:04,680 --> 00:41:07,000 roughly 55,000 a year. That's a little 1009 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,400 high plus benefits. So, you're looking 1010 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,120 at 75,000 a year. 1011 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:15,520 Um times three plus you'll still have 1012 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:17,520 overtime. 1013 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,400 It's inherent in the schedule that they 1014 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:21,360 work. They'll they'll receive overtime 1015 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:22,040 hours for each 1016 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,960 >> You're still back up to 230, 240. 1017 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,400 >> Well, it'll decrease your actual 1018 00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,560 overtime line item, but it'll increase 1019 00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:34,110 your So, it's 1020 00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:34,480 » Okay. 1021 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,400 >> I could probably reduce the overtime 1022 00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,000 by about um with what we're on track 1023 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:44,200 this year, probably about 80,000. 1024 00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:45,640 >> You'd reduce it by 80,000. 1025 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,640 >> I could probably come close to reducing 1026 00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:48,480 it by 80,000. 1027 00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:49,760 >> Three full-time positions 1028 00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:51,160 >> Three. 1029 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,440 We have We have three shifts. 1030 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:56,160 >> Three full-time positions would reduce 1031 00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:57,360 it by 80,000. 1032 00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,560 >> About 80,000 of the overtime budget. 1033 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:01,680 >> But it will increase your personnel 1034 00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:02,520 costs 1035 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,200 >> Overtime by 225. 1036 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:08,710 >> 225. 1037 00:42:08,720 --> 00:42:10,200 » I have a question about the ladder 1038 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:11,920 truck. Because I know I have had it 1039 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:13,760 restored and then we decided to try to 1040 00:42:13,760 --> 00:42:15,040 look at any ladder truck that was at the 1041 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:16,040 end of the ladder 1042 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:16,800 or 1043 00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,840 >> We talked about it. 1044 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,760 It's It's been discussed. 1045 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,800 You know, 2 years ago. 1046 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:25,920 And then we actually specked one out. 1047 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,480 And got a price 2 a year and a half ago. 1048 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:32,120 It was 2. Right at 2.3. That same ladder 1049 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,720 truck, I just spoke with them last week. 1050 00:42:34,720 --> 00:42:40,510 That same ladder truck is 2.7 now. 1051 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,000 » How really is a super ladder truck? 1052 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,360 >> 6 to 10 6 to 10% a year is what they 1053 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,160 typically go up. 1054 00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:49,480 Um 1055 00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:50,520 >> What 1056 00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,600 If we got a new ladder truck, what would 1057 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:53,920 we do with the 1058 00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:55,640 current ladder truck? 1059 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,800 >> My recommendation would be to keep that 1060 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:01,360 ladder truck as a reserve. 1061 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:03,120 Um it's paid for. 1062 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:06,080 Um keep it as a reserve. Uh it would 1063 00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,480 lower our ISO rating by having a reserve 1064 00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:09,680 ladder. 1065 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:10,800 Um 1066 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:12,000 and 1067 00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:13,720 the engine that we currently have in 1068 00:43:13,720 --> 00:43:16,000 reserve, the 2011, 1069 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:17,160 uh 1070 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,000 I cringe every time they drive it out of 1071 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:20,720 the station because something breaks on 1072 00:43:20,720 --> 00:43:21,440 it. 1073 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,200 Um the ladder truck is more reliable 1074 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,320 than the 2011 engine we have, and we 1075 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,760 have to have a reserve. Um 1076 00:43:27,760 --> 00:43:30,120 Our engine Our brand new engine was out 1077 00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:32,560 of service for about a month and a half 1078 00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:33,520 uh 1079 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:37,640 this year due to It went in for a PM. 1080 00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,280 While it was in the shop, they messed it 1081 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:41,720 up. And they ended up having to send it 1082 00:43:41,720 --> 00:43:44,200 to San Antonio to get it repaired on 1083 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,440 their dime. Um but it was a month and a 1084 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:48,720 half before we got it back. We were 1085 00:43:48,720 --> 00:43:50,680 in the Luckily, the ladder truck was 1086 00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:52,280 here. We had it. We were in the ladder 1087 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,560 truck for the majority of that month and a 1088 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:55,080 half. 1089 00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:58,240 >> So, just out of curiosity, let's say 1090 00:43:58,240 --> 00:44:00,080 you ended up having to sell the ladder 1091 00:44:00,080 --> 00:44:02,120 truck. The old engine is like 1092 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:03,360 >> Mhm. 1093 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:04,640 >> Um and 1094 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,600 that same a happened. Would they have to 1095 00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:08,640 provide some kind of a replacement 1096 00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,360 vehicle while they're fixing it if they 1097 00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:11,640 want to screw it up? 1098 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:15,560 >> No, they're not obligated to. 1099 00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:17,840 Unfortunately, it's, you know, 1100 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,880 Now, there is a shop in Killeen that uh 1101 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,440 that does repairs, um which is Siddons 1102 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,280 Martin, which is who we sent the new 1103 00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,280 ladder truck with because they had a 1104 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:31,320 shop in Killeen, a very uh 1105 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,520 impressive shop in Killeen. 1106 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:35,200 Um 1107 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,680 they do have a loaner program. 1108 00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:39,640 But, currently, the 1109 00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,920 we have a 1110 00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:43,960 we bought our truck through Metro, and 1111 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:45,840 they do not have a loaner program. 1112 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,600 >> What what would be a good estimate and 1113 00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,600 just I know it's hard to say 1114 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,520 uh the percentage of time that you use 1115 00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:56,920 the ladder truck on on these calls here? 1116 00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,400 >> So, good question. Um I would use it on 1117 00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,200 every call, uh on every fire call if we 1118 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:03,720 could. We just don't have the personnel 1119 00:45:03,720 --> 00:45:06,800 to do it. If I was able to hire an 1120 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,360 additional person per shift, that would 1121 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,720 be five per shift, I would put three on 1122 00:45:11,720 --> 00:45:13,520 an engine and three on a ladder truck, 1123 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,840 which would guarantee that that ladder 1124 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:17,720 truck was going to show up to a house 1125 00:45:17,720 --> 00:45:20,200 fire every time. 1126 00:45:20,200 --> 00:45:22,000 Um right now, we're just running one 1127 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,600 engine out of that station. Uh 1128 00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,680 if we get a house fire, 1129 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:30,160 we rely on personnel coming back 1130 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:31,680 to get the ladder truck to bring to the 1131 00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:33,320 call. 1132 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,200 >> So, you currently have five on a shift? 1133 00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,120 >> Four. 1134 00:45:37,120 --> 00:45:41,440 >> What what Yeah, what if one How would you put three and three on 1135 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:42,840 >> I would put three and two. 1136 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:43,360 >> Okay. 1137 00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:44,840 >> So, three on an engine, which would be 1138 00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:46,360 the primary response because it's a 1139 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,120 smaller vehicle, less maintenance than 1140 00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:50,760 the ladder truck. I would put two on the 1141 00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:52,440 ladder truck, guaranteeing that ladder 1142 00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:53,320 truck. 1143 00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,520 And it also helps with the overlapping 1144 00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,520 calls. If that engine is on a a call and 1145 00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:00,240 they get toned out for another one, the 1146 00:46:00,240 --> 00:46:03,080 ladder would respond imme- immediately. 1147 00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:04,440 Right now 1148 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,160 we may or may not be able to respond 1149 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:09,360 depending on the call we're on. 1150 00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,600 It would also a fifth person would also 1151 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,800 allow if somebody took off we wouldn't 1152 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:15,680 it wouldn't require overtime. We would 1153 00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,160 try and get a part-timer to fill that 1154 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,960 position. If we couldn't then we would 1155 00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:23,590 run with four. 1156 00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,240 » And so the 1157 00:46:25,240 --> 00:46:27,040 things that you were going through chief 1158 00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:29,600 talking north of 3 million three and a 1159 00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:30,160 half 1160 00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:31,960 >> Something like that. Everything that you 1161 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,600 need. What's the steps to 1162 00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:36,640 What's the most important? What's your 1163 00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,200 plan on trying to 1164 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:41,190 fill these needs? 1165 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:42,880 » Good question. 1166 00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:44,320 We need money. 1167 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,320 >> I get that but I mean what's the 1168 00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,080 strategic plan to try to do that? 1169 00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:50,400 >> I had the strategic plan on paper 1170 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,560 starting with the ladder truck. 1171 00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:53,680 Um 1172 00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,160 but that was for 1173 00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:58,880 ordering it in 2025. 1174 00:46:58,880 --> 00:46:59,680 Uh 1175 00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,040 so we moved it to 2026 and now it will 1176 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,320 move to 2027 and it will keep moving 1177 00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:06,760 out. Everything 1178 00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:08,360 in front of it is going to continue to 1179 00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:12,080 move out as well. But at some point 1180 00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:13,840 the equipment is going to fail. 1181 00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:14,520 >> Right. 1182 00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:16,600 >> Um we have a brush truck that you know 1183 00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:22,800 I'm willing now to switch the brush truck and the ladder truck because the brush 1184 00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:26,560 truck is giving us such fits. We're piecing it together. 1185 00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,200 >> How much does a brush truck 1186 00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,960 >> About 350,000. 1187 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:31,640 >> It's a lot more cost. 1188 00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:33,480 >> Substantially cheaper than a ladder 1189 00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:34,720 truck. 1190 00:47:34,720 --> 00:47:37,080 >> And used a lot more often with the fires 1191 00:47:37,080 --> 00:47:37,320 that we 1192 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:39,360 >> With the staffing that we have currently 1193 00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,000 yes ma'am. It it's used a lot more 1194 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:43,920 frequent than the ladder truck is. 1195 00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,680 >> I may have missed it chief but for 1196 00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,120 transparency how many structure fires in 1197 00:47:49,120 --> 00:47:51,520 the city have we had this last year? 1198 00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:53,240 >> I do not have that report in front of me 1199 00:47:53,240 --> 00:47:54,800 but I can get it to you and I will email 1200 00:47:54,800 --> 00:48:01,590 it to the council. 1201 00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,830 Any other questions? 1202 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:05,760 » Thank you, Chief. 1203 00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:15,990 >> Thank you all. 1204 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:18,600 » 3.2, upcoming special events meetings, 1205 00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,120 possible discussion by council. 1206 00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:23,880 August 25th, 2026 1207 00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,240 at 5:30 we have our charter review 1208 00:48:26,240 --> 00:48:28,240 committee. 1209 00:48:28,240 --> 00:48:30,920 September the 3rd, 2026 at 6:00 p.m. 1210 00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,240 planning and zoning. 1211 00:48:33,240 --> 00:48:37,480 September the 14th, 2026 at 5:30 1212 00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,920 will be back in the city hall chamber. 1213 00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:43,670 Council. 1214 00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:47,240 4.1, discussion, possible action 1215 00:48:47,240 --> 00:48:48,640 regarding the first reading of an 1216 00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:50,560 ordinance amending Land Passes Code of 1217 00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:51,760 Ordinances, 1218 00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,440 ordinance number 17-62 1219 00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,200 regarding 1220 00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:58,600 zoning regulations pertaining to smoke 1221 00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:00,200 and tobacco shops. 1222 00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:01,640 >> Good evening, Mayor and Council. This 1223 00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,720 item was discussed during workshop of 1224 00:49:03,720 --> 00:49:06,800 the August 10th meeting to change the 1225 00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,040 ordinance the existing ordinance from 1226 00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:19,950 300 ft to 1,000 ft. 1227 00:49:19,960 --> 00:49:22,560 » I still think it's over policing by the 1228 00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:27,310 government on private business, but 1229 00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:28,800 That's just my thought. 1230 00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:30,120 >> I agree with that. It's just an 1231 00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:33,080 ineffective use of of local government. 1232 00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,400 This is a parental control parental 1233 00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:38,200 responsibility issue, and it's also 1234 00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,480 inconsistent with other 1235 00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,920 uh distances for the liquor store, for 1236 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:46,080 instance, that is at 300 ft. So, I'm I'm 1237 00:49:46,080 --> 00:49:48,160 very much opposed to this change. 1238 00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:50,840 >> And y'all know where I stand on it. 1239 00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:52,840 I'm for it 1240 00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,270 because 1241 00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,400 for all the reasons that I've 1242 00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:58,680 said and yes, I know you don't think 1243 00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:00,200 it's a problem thing, 1244 00:50:00,200 --> 00:50:06,390 but if you have any idea as to what a 1245 00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,080 for lack of a better word, epidemic it 1246 00:50:08,080 --> 00:50:10,520 is at the high school level, 1247 00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:12,200 you know, maybe you'll feel different, 1248 00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:12,640 but 1249 00:50:12,640 --> 00:50:14,680 >> No, I don't because signage doesn't do 1250 00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:18,630 it. 1251 00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:20,640 » No, I mean, anything can finish you if 1252 00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:22,920 they want to do. I mean, realistically, 1253 00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:23,800 if you want to do something, you're 1254 00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:24,960 going to you're going to find a way to 1255 00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:25,720 do it. 1256 00:50:25,720 --> 00:50:28,800 But, I just feel like 1257 00:50:28,800 --> 00:50:31,240 I personally don't want to see that in 1258 00:50:31,240 --> 00:50:33,240 our town that close to our schools. 1259 00:50:33,240 --> 00:50:34,760 That's my own opinion. 1260 00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:36,600 >> That's exactly what a 1261 00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:38,920 overstepping of a government entity is 1262 00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:40,520 doing. You're saying personally you just 1263 00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:41,720 don't want to see that. 1264 00:50:41,720 --> 00:50:43,840 >> Well, I feel like I feel like part of 1265 00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:48,080 our responsibility as city councils is 1266 00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:51,080 to take what the community believes that 1267 00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:53,440 we want the city to be, 1268 00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,600 and I don't think it's overstepping. 1269 00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:57,440 Because I've had and it's not just me, 1270 00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,360 I've had many people 1271 00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:03,280 concerned about it. They don't want to see that that close 1272 00:51:03,280 --> 00:51:03,840 to the school. 1273 00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,160 >> Where are they? 1274 00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:08,520 >> What do you mean, where are they? 1275 00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:10,160 >> Right here. These people. 1276 00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,440 I'm sitting right here. 1277 00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:15,760 On the front row with the on his phone. 1278 00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,080 >> Well, I believe that this is basically a 1279 00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:21,120 misuse of local government 1280 00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:22,280 function. 1281 00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:25,840 It's a issue for children's parents. 1282 00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:28,880 It's an issue for uh 1283 00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,360 those who might be addicted to some 1284 00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:32,640 substance. 1285 00:51:32,640 --> 00:51:33,400 The 1286 00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,520 generally, the smoke shop ordinance 1287 00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:40,040 talks about more than just vaping. 1288 00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:42,600 It is much more broad-based, and it's an 1289 00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:44,320 over This is just an overreach. It's 1290 00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:46,360 just not necessary, and it's really not 1291 00:51:46,360 --> 00:51:48,320 effective. 1292 00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:53,190 >> Should we get rid of the 300 ft? 1293 00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,080 » I mean, I don't think it really 1294 00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:56,880 I don't think like restricting 1295 00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:59,120 advertising on there really does much 1296 00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,400 either way, but you know, it's the third 1297 00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:05,350 time that it's come up. 1298 00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:06,680 I just don't know why we keep on talking 1299 00:52:06,680 --> 00:52:07,880 about it. 1300 00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:11,080 I mean, 300 ft is fine, but 1301 00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:11,400 >> It's really 1302 00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:12,920 >> Well, that's where it's that's cuz it 1303 00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,080 was approved before 1304 00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,240 this council. Like literally right 1305 00:52:17,240 --> 00:52:19,160 before this council. 1306 00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:20,640 And then we have a different council 1307 00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:22,560 that's brought back up. 1308 00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:24,920 >> I was just curious if 300 ft is over 1309 00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,240 stepping. 1310 00:52:27,240 --> 00:52:32,040 >> I mean, cuz just as a example, 1311 00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,800 we had a shop in town right next to 1312 00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:36,200 Storms 1313 00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,640 put up signs. 1314 00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:40,920 How soon did everybody 1315 00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:44,560 get a text, phone call saying, 1316 00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,280 "I thought we weren't doing this." 1317 00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:48,760 >> They're all city 1318 00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:50,240 >> Right. So, 1319 00:52:50,240 --> 00:52:52,920 if you're looking for a reason not to, 1320 00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,000 that's the reason. 1321 00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:57,240 At least with me. I had several people 1322 00:52:57,240 --> 00:52:59,520 text and say, "No, we already have them 1323 00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:00,640 in town." 1324 00:53:00,640 --> 00:53:02,280 That's another point. 1325 00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,440 We already have them in here. 1326 00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,480 So, it's just a personal preference. 1327 00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:09,160 Either you want to encourage more smoke 1328 00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:10,320 shops, 1329 00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:13,040 and as you know, Eric, and as you know, 1330 00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:14,560 not everything they sell out of there is 1331 00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:16,640 legal. 1332 00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,280 They're waiting for the law to catch up, 1333 00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,520 so it's proprietary illegal, but until 1334 00:53:22,520 --> 00:53:24,320 that happens, they're going to continue 1335 00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:26,040 selling them. And they don't care who 1336 00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:27,160 they sell it to. 1337 00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:29,400 >> But, I guess the uh 1338 00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,200 the spirit and the intent behind that 1339 00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:33,240 kind of ordinance would be to keep it 1340 00:53:33,240 --> 00:53:34,760 out of hands of like kids. Is that what 1341 00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:35,880 we're saying? 1342 00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:37,600 >> I don't like marijuana would be a store 1343 00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:40,840 of the law, but we know people who have 1344 00:53:40,840 --> 00:53:42,160 >> What are we talking about? I mean, I'm 1345 00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,280 simply asking is this about kids like 1346 00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,080 Councilwoman McKinney's talking about 1347 00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:47,280 not having in the high school or is it 1348 00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:49,360 trying to regulate morality for adults? 1349 00:53:49,360 --> 00:53:50,800 >> I don't I'm not regulating morality. I'm 1350 00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:54,320 saying access to illegal substances. 1351 00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:54,880 >> But I mean, you know, 1352 00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:56,360 >> Alcohol's legal. 1353 00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:57,680 >> The question is whether this is the 1354 00:53:57,680 --> 00:53:59,840 right way to attack that issue. 1355 00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:01,600 And the I don't think this is. 1356 00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:02,760 >> I just don't think it's a matter of 1357 00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,080 encouraging versus attack. 1358 00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,120 Like we're encouraging versus attack. 1359 00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:09,360 Everyone has their opinion. We've gone 1360 00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:12,160 back and forth. So, we can vote and then 1361 00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:15,640 just move on and then we'll be set. So, 1362 00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,320 it's however everybody votes and then we 1363 00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:19,760 can just live with it and move on. 1364 00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:21,840 That's how I look. I mean, I didn't 1365 00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:23,640 >> And and that was part of that was part 1366 00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:26,520 of my issue with it is because before 1367 00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:27,760 Officer Patrick 1368 00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,040 for Councilwoman Walsh came on, 1369 00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,440 it was passed and then Councilwoman 1370 00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:33,560 Walsh came along and it was swung the 1371 00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,240 other way and it was denied. So, it just 1372 00:54:36,240 --> 00:54:37,840 >> They didn't put it on the agenda. 1373 00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:39,400 >> I just didn't feel like we had a chance 1374 00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:40,800 to put it on. 1375 00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:42,200 Which is why I wanted to bring this back 1376 00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:44,520 and make sure that we knew what 1377 00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:46,560 the council felt 1378 00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:47,400 was best. 1379 00:54:47,400 --> 00:54:48,600 >> I don't know how I got back on that 1380 00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:50,480 second time. I got on council. I didn't 1381 00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:52,160 ask for it to be on there. I just was 1382 00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:53,680 here. 1383 00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:55,160 But also, I think Chief Cummings had 1384 00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:57,120 never been a few times that the PD has 1385 00:54:57,120 --> 00:54:58,640 stepped in when there's been issues with 1386 00:54:58,640 --> 00:55:00,920 local shops if there was a question of 1387 00:55:00,920 --> 00:55:02,400 if there was illegal substances being 1388 00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,920 sold out of there where local PD went in 1389 00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:06,640 to to make sure that shops were in 1390 00:55:06,640 --> 00:55:07,680 compliance. 1391 00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:09,480 >> Sure, a few times over the half of the 1392 00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:11,320 year time 1393 00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,600 good in compliance or something. 1394 00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:15,480 We asked for information and concern. I 1395 00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:17,000 mean, the law has changed up and down 1396 00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:18,440 over the last three or four months using 1397 00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:19,600 synthetic marijuana. 1398 00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:21,200 But in coordination with the county 1399 00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:22,760 attorney's office, we talked to the shop 1400 00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:23,880 owners where we actually made the 1401 00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,000 purchases there. You take all this into 1402 00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:26,920 the lab. 1403 00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:27,520 Uh 1404 00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:28,920 you can come back and see if there's 1405 00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:29,680 anything there. 1406 00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:31,480 It used to be done and not be done. We 1407 00:55:31,480 --> 00:55:32,600 always coordinated with the county 1408 00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:34,800 attorney's office. 1409 00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:36,440 >> Yes, sir. Uh 1410 00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,920 and that's more in line with the duties 1411 00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:40,520 of law enforcement though is is 1412 00:55:40,520 --> 00:55:41,800 regulating the laws of the state of 1413 00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:45,790 Texas, right? 1414 00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:47,440 » I mean I get both of y'all's sides on 1415 00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,520 this. I'm trying to figure out 1416 00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:51,520 what I think, but 1417 00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:53,760 >> It'd be different if there was no no 1418 00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:54,600 smoke shops. 1419 00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,120 >> overstepping. Is 300 ft overstepping it? 1420 00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,680 Do we need to do away with that as well? 1421 00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:00,880 >> So, what does it What does it say 1422 00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:02,800 statewide? 1423 00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:05,640 >> Uh statewide is for signage only and 1424 00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:07,920 it's 1,000 ft within a school. 1425 00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:09,240 >> I mean I guess going along with my 1426 00:56:09,240 --> 00:56:11,040 mentality then it'd be 1427 00:56:11,040 --> 00:56:13,240 300 be too much too, but this is going 1428 00:56:13,240 --> 00:56:15,480 back to an ex-smoker. I think vapes are 1429 00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:18,480 real lame, too. I just 1430 00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,240 I mean I'm just looking at it as being I 1431 00:56:21,240 --> 00:56:22,760 just don't like the government meddling 1432 00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:26,200 with private business. I mean that's it. I'm against Clearly I don't 1433 00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:27,720 want kids having that. 1434 00:56:27,720 --> 00:56:28,880 >> Well, yeah, and that's part of the 1435 00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:31,040 problem, too, is because the the vapes 1436 00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:32,800 that they get hold of 1437 00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,000 are felony level vapes. 1438 00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:38,400 And so, advertising it, making it more 1439 00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:39,520 um 1440 00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:41,400 socially acceptable 1441 00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,080 to a kid's head, 1442 00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:44,960 that's where That's where I'm at. 1443 00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:46,680 >> But they're not I don't know if if signs 1444 00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:48,720 in town are doing that as much as like 1445 00:56:48,720 --> 00:56:51,120 these things. The advertising is 1446 00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:53,120 >> Well, it's kind of both. I mean it 1447 00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:55,320 >> How does that relate to the distance of 1448 00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:56,880 a building to another building? 1449 00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:58,160 >> to the distance of the building? It's 1450 00:56:58,160 --> 00:56:59,640 like kids could just walk right by and 1451 00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,040 see it and drive by it every single 1452 00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:02,960 solitary vape 1453 00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:06,120 >> Well, we also have uh liquor stores that 1454 00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:09,520 have uh advertising that is 1455 00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:11,640 available. So, it's And that one is 1456 00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:12,680 truly huge. 1457 00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,200 >> But the liquor But the kids aren't 1458 00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:18,680 Liquor is not as much of an issue at a 1459 00:57:18,680 --> 00:57:20,400 high school campus as 1460 00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:20,680 >> What? 1461 00:57:20,680 --> 00:57:21,400 >> the vapes. 1462 00:57:21,400 --> 00:57:22,400 >> What are you talking about? 1463 00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:25,760 >> Not as much. It is, but not as much. 1464 00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:27,760 They're not doing it. It's just They're 1465 00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:28,160 not 1466 00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:29,280 >> I don't know. I've been in high school 1467 00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,560 for since almost been it 1468 00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:33,240 Like 1469 00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:35,280 And I mean and also like again like 1470 00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:36,920 signage in town 1471 00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,080 compared to what's online and the phones 1472 00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:41,600 and on TV like it's 1473 00:57:41,600 --> 00:57:42,480 I don't know. 1474 00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:43,160 I'm just curious. 1475 00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:47,960 >> agree with it. I just very much against the government 1476 00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:49,720 stepping in private business. 1477 00:57:49,720 --> 00:57:54,000 >> Is this only for smoke shops because 1478 00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:55,960 gas stations sell 1479 00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:59,200 these things as well, I mean, right? 1480 00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,720 >> It's a specific percentage of sales that 1481 00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:04,760 are spent on vapes specifically. 1482 00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:05,280 >> Okay. 1483 00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:06,320 >> Or tobacco. 1484 00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:08,080 >> I mean, you go into Casey's and get that 1485 00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:11,120 two for $6 slices, but you see ads for 1486 00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:13,200 vapes as soon as you walk in. 1487 00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:15,200 >> It's a percentage of the total sales. 1488 00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:16,600 >> But still not we're still not getting 1489 00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:18,600 rid of vapes within the even within the 1490 00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:25,510 300 ft rule. 1491 00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:27,600 » I guess I'd Ed would like to see us call 1492 00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:29,480 the question. 1493 00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:30,280 >> I 1494 00:58:30,280 --> 00:58:32,520 don't How would a vape shop advertise? 1495 00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:33,680 What kind of signage would they be 1496 00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:35,560 allowed to put up? 1497 00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:38,440 They can't say vape or anything in their 1498 00:58:38,440 --> 00:58:38,720 >> Right. 1499 00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:39,440 >> name. 1500 00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:43,160 >> He says it it relates to you know, it 1501 00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:45,080 limits cartoon characters that would 1502 00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:49,040 target kids. Like you have to be very restrictive with your 1503 00:58:49,040 --> 00:58:51,640 >> of like hobbies and stuff. 1504 00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:53,080 >> Right. 1505 00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:54,960 >> So certain characters 1506 00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:56,960 >> Yeah, they they're not allowed to use 1507 00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:58,680 signage that would be appealing to 1508 00:58:58,680 --> 00:58:59,880 children. 1509 00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:01,720 within 1,000 ft of a school. 1510 00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:03,720 >> But it could say such and such vape 1511 00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:04,760 shop. 1512 00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:11,510 Okay. 1513 00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:13,280 » All right. 1514 00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:14,720 Do we get a motion one way or the other 1515 00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:17,240 this for the last time? 1516 00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:19,040 >> All right, for just for the last time to 1517 00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:20,920 get it get it done. 1518 00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:23,280 I I would like to consider a motion to 1519 00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:24,000 approve 1520 00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:25,520 the 1,000 ft. 1521 00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:29,870 >> Second. 1522 00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:31,280 » All right. in favor? 1523 00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:37,590 >> Aye. 1524 00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:44,920 >> Nay. 1525 00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:59,710 >> Thank you. 1526 00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:00,800 » All right. 1527 01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:03,680 4.2 discussion and possible action to 1528 01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:07,440 declare unusual city-owned IT equipment 1529 01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:08,960 as surplus 1530 01:00:08,960 --> 01:00:11,840 and allow staff to dispose of as state 1531 01:00:11,840 --> 01:00:13,840 law allows. 1532 01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:15,600 >> Mayor and city council, staff is 1533 01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:17,520 requesting the approval to dispose of 1534 01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:19,720 city-owned unusable IT equipment that 1535 01:00:19,720 --> 01:00:22,440 was used at various departments. Equip- 1536 01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:24,440 equipment includes desktop PCs, 1537 01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:26,720 monitors, switches, laptops, wireless 1538 01:00:26,720 --> 01:00:30,320 access points, toner, um UPS battery 1539 01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:33,000 backups, uh tablets, cell phones, air 1540 01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:35,320 cards, um and printers. 1541 01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:36,640 The IT equipment that staff is 1542 01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:38,360 requesting to dispose of is either 1543 01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:40,840 end-of-life, no longer supported, 1544 01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:43,760 broken, or has been replaced. Staff has 1545 01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:45,680 removed all the parts that could serve a 1546 01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:48,160 purpose to the city off of the equipment 1547 01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:49,760 and the serial numbers of the equipment 1548 01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:52,600 to be to be disposed of will be kept for 1549 01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:55,240 uh record retention. And additionally, 1550 01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:56,720 all hard drives have been removed or 1551 01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:59,880 wiped containing city data. 1552 01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:02,480 Uh staff is just requesting a motion to 1553 01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:04,880 declare unusable IT equipment as surplus 1554 01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:07,480 and allow staff to dispose of as state 1555 01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:08,560 law allows. 1556 01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:09,600 >> So moved. 1557 01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:12,310 >> Second. 1558 01:01:12,320 --> 01:01:14,080 » Any discussion? 1559 01:01:14,080 --> 01:01:15,080 All in favor? 1560 01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:17,600 >> Aye. 1561 01:01:17,600 --> 01:01:19,280 >> Thank you. 1562 01:01:19,280 --> 01:01:21,720 >> 4.3, discussion and possible action on a 1563 01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:23,440 5-year sponsorship agreement for 1564 01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:25,280 beverage rights between the city of 1565 01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:31,790 Lampasas and Coca-Cola. 1566 01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:33,880 » Good evening, Mayor, Mayor pro Mayor pro 1567 01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:36,240 tem and council. Sorry for that noise. 1568 01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:38,280 Um you have before you a beverage 1569 01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:40,800 agreement between the city of Lampasas 1570 01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:44,480 and Coca-Cola. Uh as you know, Coca-Cola 1571 01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:46,640 is an international company. Uh for this 1572 01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:48,440 contract specifically, we are going to 1573 01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:51,520 be dealing out of the Dallas office for 1574 01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:52,640 this contract. They have multiple 1575 01:01:52,640 --> 01:01:54,760 offices throughout the country. Um 1576 01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:56,280 and Dallas is going to be the closest 1577 01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:58,120 one to us, so this will be who 1578 01:01:58,120 --> 01:02:00,080 specifically we go under contract with, 1579 01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:01,520 but we will receive all the rights and 1580 01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:03,320 benefits of any 1581 01:02:03,320 --> 01:02:06,400 uh national partner. With this, um there 1582 01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:08,240 is a hard There's it's difficult to put 1583 01:02:08,240 --> 01:02:10,880 a dollar amount on this contract because 1584 01:02:10,880 --> 01:02:12,640 there's a lot of commission-based and 1585 01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:16,200 rebate-based uh monies that could come 1586 01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:17,760 to the city. 1587 01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:19,480 Um but we are also going to have 1588 01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:22,160 guaranteed monies from day one of this 1589 01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:24,320 contract. Um 1590 01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:26,680 with this contract, we will receive at 1591 01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:29,040 minimum 1592 01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:32,480 $12,000 per calendar year. 1593 01:02:32,480 --> 01:02:35,360 Uh that will be through merchandise. 1594 01:02:35,360 --> 01:02:36,000 Um 1595 01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:37,560 that merchandise could be umbrellas, it 1596 01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:39,160 could be picnic tables, it could be menu 1597 01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:42,560 boards. Uh any number of uh maybe 1598 01:02:42,560 --> 01:02:45,480 digital TVs to show menus at concession 1599 01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:47,480 stands, for example. 1600 01:02:47,480 --> 01:02:48,400 Um 1601 01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:50,800 and then $8,000 of those dollars per 1602 01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:52,480 year will be loose funds for us to use 1603 01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:54,320 whatever we would like. 1604 01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:56,200 But then, on top of that, they are going 1605 01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:58,720 to provide both drink coolers, which are 1606 01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:01,320 the sliding glass coolers that you may 1607 01:03:01,320 --> 01:03:05,000 see at the golf course or at the pool, 1608 01:03:05,000 --> 01:03:07,360 as well as about a dozen vending 1609 01:03:07,360 --> 01:03:09,960 machines for the city at no cost. The 1610 01:03:09,960 --> 01:03:11,720 Coca-Cola will own those vending 1611 01:03:11,720 --> 01:03:13,040 machines, 1612 01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:15,040 um and they will give them to us for the 1613 01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:18,200 length of our contract uh to sell their 1614 01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:20,920 merchandise out of, and that does not 1615 01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:23,720 uh factor into that uh merchandise money 1616 01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:26,040 that we will receive each year. 1617 01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:28,720 With that as well, any vending 1618 01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:31,360 uh sales, we're going to receive from 1619 01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:34,040 drink number one a 15% commission off of 1620 01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:35,800 each one of those drinks. 1621 01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:37,400 Uh if you go to the appendices in the 1622 01:03:37,400 --> 01:03:39,000 very back of the contract, it's going to 1623 01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:41,840 show you the drink breakdown, 1624 01:03:41,840 --> 01:03:43,560 uh the purchase the cost that they will 1625 01:03:43,560 --> 01:03:45,800 be put in the vending machine at, 1626 01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:48,720 and the 15% uh commission on each one of 1627 01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:50,400 those. 1628 01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:52,360 Additionally, in your contract, you're 1629 01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:54,720 going to see 1630 01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:58,120 drink sales uh that we purchase for the 1631 01:03:58,120 --> 01:04:01,000 city for redistribution or to consume as 1632 01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:02,960 city staff ourselves. 1633 01:04:02,960 --> 01:04:05,160 Uh the biggest one is going to be uh we 1634 01:04:05,160 --> 01:04:08,320 will receive a $5 rebate on every single 1635 01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:10,080 case of water, 1636 01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:12,280 soda, or there are a couple other 1637 01:04:12,280 --> 01:04:14,800 different beverage items in that $5 per 1638 01:04:14,800 --> 01:04:16,520 case rebate. 1639 01:04:16,520 --> 01:04:18,560 As well as there's another threshold of 1640 01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:21,480 $2 rebates per case. 1641 01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:25,080 We also have an incentive on here for 1642 01:04:25,080 --> 01:04:28,040 case large quantity case thresholds at 1643 01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:31,760 $2,000, and then an additional $5,000 if 1644 01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:34,120 we do hit those thresholds. 1645 01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:35,440 One of the good things about this 1646 01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:38,160 contract is that we are not going to be 1647 01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:41,160 paying for any signage out of 1648 01:04:41,160 --> 01:04:44,120 our pocket because there is no signage 1649 01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:46,120 that will be going on baseball fields, 1650 01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:49,400 soccer fields, uh aquatic facilities. 1651 01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:50,840 It's strictly going to be based off of 1652 01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:52,400 those vending machines, those coolers, 1653 01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:53,800 and mini boards. So, they're going to be 1654 01:04:53,800 --> 01:04:56,320 the three main products we receive. 1655 01:04:56,320 --> 01:04:57,560 Um 1656 01:04:57,560 --> 01:04:58,920 if you have any questions, I think that 1657 01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:01,640 pretty much covers all of the the 1658 01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:03,160 financials of it. 1659 01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:06,480 >> Did y'all So, on this, who negotiated 1660 01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:08,320 this? Did y'all just go to Coca-Cola or 1661 01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:11,120 you Is this coming through that company in 1662 01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:12,160 Iowa? 1663 01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:13,800 >> It's This is a Sports Solutions 1664 01:05:13,800 --> 01:05:14,800 contract. 1665 01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:16,200 >> Sports Solutions contract, what 1666 01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:17,920 percentage did they get or is there a 1667 01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:18,800 tax? 1668 01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:22,240 >> Anytime we receive a check 1669 01:05:22,240 --> 01:05:24,560 from Coca-Cola, we are going to within 1670 01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:28,320 30 days give 25% of that to 1671 01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:29,680 um 1672 01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:30,880 Sports Solutions. 1673 01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:34,000 >> And then what how does that work with 1674 01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:35,720 the um 1675 01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:38,280 Little League what they what they 1676 01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:39,440 do they get concession stands and 1677 01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:41,360 they're taking your stocking and 1678 01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:43,680 selling? Are they Are they only using 1679 01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:45,120 Coca-Cola products? 1680 01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:47,960 >> Yes, they will be able to receive them 1681 01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:49,960 from us at cost that we receive them 1682 01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:51,680 though, which is significantly below 1683 01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:54,200 market value. 1684 01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:55,840 >> Are they Are they going to talk to the 1685 01:05:55,840 --> 01:05:57,160 different I mean 1686 01:05:57,160 --> 01:05:58,240 they agree with that? 1687 01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:00,520 >> LCYLA was present at the Parks Board 1688 01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:02,080 meeting. Their representative was the 1689 01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:03,280 other night and they're in agreement 1690 01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:05,640 with this. 1691 01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:07,520 >> What are the locations? 1692 01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:10,000 >> Um there are if you are on the very 1693 01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:12,960 first page of the contract, um section F 1694 01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:14,720 is going to list off all the physical 1695 01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:17,440 addresses, but it is going to include 1696 01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:20,920 all the sports complexes, both pools, 1697 01:06:20,920 --> 01:06:22,680 um 1698 01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:25,440 the golf courses on here, W and Burke 1699 01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:26,200 Park. 1700 01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:28,240 >> Did the golf course or did 1701 01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:30,200 they sign a contract 1702 01:06:30,200 --> 01:06:32,120 last year or something or somebody? 1703 01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:33,800 >> They have a distribution agreement with 1704 01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:36,760 Pepsi, but that can be 1705 01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:37,880 negated 1706 01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:38,240 >> Okay. 1707 01:06:38,240 --> 01:06:40,000 >> for this purpose. 1708 01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:40,920 >> I mean sure 1709 01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:42,880 we got Pepsi in here at the golf course. 1710 01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:44,040 >> No, it's a it's a Pepsi 1711 01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:45,560 >> So I remember they already had a 1712 01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:46,880 contract with Pepsi in there. 1713 01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:48,520 >> They We had to sign a contract with 1714 01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:50,400 Pepsi for them to deliver products to 1715 01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:51,120 the golf course. 1716 01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:52,160 >> Okay. 1717 01:06:52,160 --> 01:06:54,080 And how does this this is kind of 1718 01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:55,960 far-fetched and reaching, but 1719 01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:57,960 it's a question. 1720 01:06:57,960 --> 01:07:00,200 We had a little water problem. 1721 01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:04,440 And we got water from Red Cross or State 1722 01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:07,400 of Texas and it was great value. It was 1723 01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:09,000 whatever they could bring us. 1724 01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:17,750 >> This is for the 1725 01:07:17,760 --> 01:07:19,960 Not an not an emergency. 1726 01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:21,360 This is not going to affect that either 1727 01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:26,390 because 1728 01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:27,720 This is not going to affect that. This 1729 01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:30,240 is more based towards what we are 1730 01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:32,520 selling our customers. 1731 01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:34,280 >> We give that water away, that emergency 1732 01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:40,030 water. 1733 01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:45,510 » Yes. 1734 01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:47,720 And I and the county included Tony 1735 01:07:47,720 --> 01:07:48,240 Water. 1736 01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:51,200 >> not make a difference, but these two 1737 01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:53,480 distributors have competed over several 1738 01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:55,120 months to get to this point that we're 1739 01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:55,720 at. 1740 01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:57,920 >> Yes, and so back to Councilwoman 1741 01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:00,320 Keeney's point, this has a been a 1742 01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:02,080 Sportsman's Solutions contract and we've 1743 01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:04,560 had Coca-Cola and Pepsi both on site and 1744 01:08:04,560 --> 01:08:05,040 they have 1745 01:08:05,040 --> 01:08:08,040 >> competitively bid this back and forth 1746 01:08:08,040 --> 01:08:11,480 >> multiple months. Um if you do look at 1747 01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:13,200 point number two on the very first page, 1748 01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:15,280 this negotiation started on April the 1749 01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:17,480 1st and so um 1750 01:08:17,480 --> 01:08:19,880 I did forget to omit the original date 1751 01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:21,600 on this beverage agreement of April 1st, 1752 01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:23,680 2026. That will just move to the date 1753 01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:26,240 that we execute the contract. 1754 01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:28,480 >> So um 1755 01:08:28,480 --> 01:08:29,400 just to 1756 01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:31,960 make sure I understand the numbers here. 1757 01:08:31,960 --> 01:08:36,400 Annually, we get $8,000 in cash, $4,000 1758 01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:39,359 in merchandise, whatever that may be, 1759 01:08:39,359 --> 01:08:43,640 and then 60 cents per $4 purchase, but 1760 01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:46,200 we pay 15 cents of that out to 1761 01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:47,000 Sportsman's Solutions. 1762 01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:49,799 >> Correct. Also, for every case of water 1763 01:08:49,799 --> 01:08:51,720 that we purchase, for example, the fire 1764 01:08:51,720 --> 01:08:53,960 department, the police department, 1765 01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:56,640 um public works, they tend to order 1766 01:08:56,640 --> 01:08:59,160 their drinks by the their water by the 1767 01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:02,040 pallet for their for their guys out in 1768 01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:04,520 the field and so we would receive $5 1769 01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:06,799 back on every single one of those cases 1770 01:09:06,799 --> 01:09:09,839 on that pallet as well. 1771 01:09:09,839 --> 01:09:10,520 >> Okay. 1772 01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:12,560 >> Even if the city is consuming that 1773 01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:15,080 instead of reselling it. 1774 01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:17,799 >> Okay, so 1775 01:09:17,799 --> 01:09:19,680 in that situation 1776 01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:21,960 that department would have to buy from 1777 01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:23,000 Coca-Cola. 1778 01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:25,720 >> Correct, but it's going to be at a 1779 01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:28,279 below market cost from what we're even 1780 01:09:28,279 --> 01:09:29,920 purchasing from Walmart or Sam's Club 1781 01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:31,680 right now because we're receiving it as 1782 01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:34,000 a essentially as a vendor to resell it 1783 01:09:34,000 --> 01:09:36,120 at the market value. And those numbers 1784 01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:37,960 are in one of the appendices in the 1785 01:09:37,960 --> 01:09:41,430 contract as well. 1786 01:09:41,440 --> 01:09:43,200 » On exhibit A and B, it's not a dumb 1787 01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:44,799 question, but when you're looking at the 1788 01:09:44,799 --> 01:09:46,759 product list, what what is this PET 1789 01:09:46,759 --> 01:09:49,789 stand for? 1790 01:09:49,799 --> 01:09:51,120 » I didn't hear. What did you say? 1791 01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:53,120 >> PET on the exhibits. What does it stand 1792 01:09:53,120 --> 01:09:53,600 for? 1793 01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:55,600 >> Hit. 1794 01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:57,120 >> What does it stand for though? 1795 01:09:57,120 --> 01:10:00,840 >> That is an excellent question. 1796 01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:02,960 >> All right, and another question. 1797 01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:04,400 >> a it's a bottle, not a can. 1798 01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:04,680 >> Okay. 1799 01:10:04,680 --> 01:10:05,840 >> It's a it's a plastic bottle. 1800 01:10:05,840 --> 01:10:08,600 >> Okay, so the 1801 01:10:08,600 --> 01:10:10,280 So is that right that bottle of water is 1802 01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:12,280 three bucks in the in the vending 1803 01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:12,480 machine? 1804 01:10:12,480 --> 01:10:13,880 >> That's going to be from vending. 1805 01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:14,480 >> From what? 1806 01:10:14,480 --> 01:10:16,640 >> From vending. We don't have to if we're 1807 01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:18,920 at the aquatics facility, we don't have 1808 01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:22,120 to sell it at $3, but they they service 1809 01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:24,040 those vending machines. We don't service 1810 01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:27,920 those and so they will set the cost on 1811 01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:30,320 those and that's set out uh on that 1812 01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:33,160 exhibit A year one through two 1813 01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:34,880 three and four year five. 1814 01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:36,960 >> And so in five years, a bottle of water 1815 01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:38,240 costs $3.50? 1816 01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:40,080 >> Inflation, I mean. 1817 01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:41,280 >> That's brutal. 1818 01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:42,360 Spring water. 1819 01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:45,400 >> And also the swimming pools, the Johanna 1820 01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:47,880 Springs and Hancock are 1821 01:10:47,880 --> 01:10:50,000 the Hancock Springs is listed, but not 1822 01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:51,400 Hancock. 1823 01:10:51,400 --> 01:10:52,720 >> Um 1824 01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:56,560 the issue with one of the sliding glass 1825 01:10:56,560 --> 01:10:59,630 door 1826 01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:03,480 machines at Han Hancock is the 1827 01:11:03,480 --> 01:11:05,400 concession stand is way too small. You 1828 01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:07,400 can barely sit two people in there right 1829 01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:10,840 now and it's really cramped. And so 1830 01:11:10,840 --> 01:11:12,560 they're going to put a vending machine 1831 01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:15,240 on the external of the building there. 1832 01:11:15,240 --> 01:11:16,920 Um but there will not be one of the 1833 01:11:16,920 --> 01:11:18,640 sliding glass coolers there because 1834 01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:20,920 there's physically not enough space. 1835 01:11:20,920 --> 01:11:22,320 >> And that space this house would be the 1836 01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:23,720 same inside? 1837 01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:25,520 >> Correct. 1838 01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:26,800 >> Everywhere they want to put a vending 1839 01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:28,760 machine and there's not currently 1840 01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:31,000 electricity, who's responsible? 1841 01:11:31,000 --> 01:11:33,320 >> We have We went around with the company 1842 01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:35,320 and everywhere that we want to put a 1843 01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:37,560 vending machine there's electricity 1844 01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:40,080 except for one location um and this is 1845 01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:42,080 the 580 Sports Complex where we want to 1846 01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:44,840 put the vending machine and there is a 1847 01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:47,520 uh spot we can take electricity from 1848 01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:49,920 just like from a floodlight like 2 ft 1849 01:11:49,920 --> 01:11:51,480 above where the machine would be. 1850 01:11:51,480 --> 01:11:53,320 >> So it would only work when the lights 1851 01:11:53,320 --> 01:11:55,200 are on? 1852 01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:56,040 >> No, 1853 01:11:56,040 --> 01:11:57,280 it would work all the time. 1854 01:11:57,280 --> 01:11:58,840 >> I'm serious. 1855 01:11:58,840 --> 01:12:00,200 >> It would work all the time. 1856 01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:03,680 >> But if if it's city contract and I know 1857 01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:05,560 this is probably already been answered 1858 01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:06,520 um 1859 01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:09,000 and we have a event and a lot of people 1860 01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:11,600 donate things to the fire department. 1861 01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:13,920 They donate Gatorade. 1862 01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:15,760 They donate pallets. Is Coke going to 1863 01:12:15,760 --> 01:12:18,200 have an issue with us drinking 1864 01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:19,480 you know, they're we're supposed to be 1865 01:12:19,480 --> 01:12:22,320 under Coca-Cola and some citizen 1866 01:12:22,320 --> 01:12:23,520 donates? 1867 01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:25,600 >> The The issue would become if we turned 1868 01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:26,760 around and tried to sell that 1869 01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:28,960 merchandise that was not Coca-Cola. 1870 01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:29,320 >> Okay. 1871 01:12:29,320 --> 01:12:32,280 >> Um if they donate again 1872 01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:35,800 Gatorade instead of Powerade that that's 1873 01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:38,320 not it doesn't apply here. It's like it 1874 01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:39,920 would be the same if I took Gatorade 1875 01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:42,360 into my office and drink it instead of 1876 01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:45,680 drinking Powerade in my office. 1877 01:12:45,680 --> 01:12:47,960 >> It's only Powerade now. 1878 01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:48,320 >> Body Armor. 1879 01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:49,120 >> It's only Powerade. 1880 01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:50,440 >> And Body Armor. 1881 01:12:50,440 --> 01:12:51,200 >> Do we 1882 01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:52,080 uh 1883 01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:54,200 Do we get to this stuff on the ISD 1884 01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:55,440 property? 1885 01:12:55,440 --> 01:12:57,520 Like the stadium. 1886 01:12:57,520 --> 01:13:00,880 >> The ISD is not in this. No, sir. 1887 01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:02,920 >> And what 1888 01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:05,560 This wasn't like naming rights for 580 1889 01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:07,120 or anything like that. It's just them 1890 01:13:07,120 --> 01:13:08,920 being It's basically having the products 1891 01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:09,680 around town at all the 1892 01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:11,640 >> Correct. They don't want their name on 1893 01:13:11,640 --> 01:13:13,640 anything other than the product they're 1894 01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:15,880 selling or vending up above. 1895 01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:17,000 >> So, that's still out there. 1896 01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:19,760 >> Correct. Um 1897 01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:22,640 Just to kind of like put it out there, has been some interest in the 1898 01:13:22,640 --> 01:13:25,400 rodeo arena, but that's a little bit 1899 01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:26,680 more down the line. You know, it has 1900 01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:29,280 nothing to do with specifically this 1901 01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:36,150 contract. 1902 01:13:36,160 --> 01:13:44,830 » All right. Do we get a motion? 1903 01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:46,120 » I make a motion to approve this 1904 01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:47,680 sponsorship agreement between the city 1905 01:13:47,680 --> 01:13:50,160 of the one passes Coca-Cola 1906 01:13:50,160 --> 01:13:52,680 for a base plus commission-based 1907 01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:54,080 contract for 5 years. 1908 01:13:54,080 --> 01:13:55,600 >> Second. 1909 01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:58,240 Any other discussion? All in favor? 1910 01:13:58,240 --> 01:13:59,600 >> Aye. 1911 01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:04,390 >> Thank you. 1912 01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:06,720 » 4.4 discussion possible action for 1913 01:14:06,720 --> 01:14:08,400 approving a resolution to amend the 1914 01:14:08,400 --> 01:14:10,520 city's comprehensive fund 1915 01:14:10,520 --> 01:14:12,560 balance policy. 1916 01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:14,760 >> Mayor and council, as reviewed during 1917 01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:16,840 workshop, our fund balance policy was 1918 01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:19,600 last updated in 2013 after adoption in 1919 01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:21,160 2011. 1920 01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:22,760 Um we're recommending to modify the 1921 01:14:22,760 --> 01:14:24,480 reserve balances from a percentage 1922 01:14:24,480 --> 01:14:26,440 applied to the most recently complete 1923 01:14:26,440 --> 01:14:28,960 audited fiscal year to a number of days 1924 01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:30,680 applied to operating expenditures of the 1925 01:14:30,680 --> 01:14:32,360 current fiscal year. 1926 01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:33,800 Modifying the order of spending 1927 01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:35,160 resources from 1928 01:14:35,160 --> 01:14:37,680 spending restricted fund balance first 1929 01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:39,680 to using the least restricted categories 1930 01:14:39,680 --> 01:14:42,520 of funds first. Creating a monitoring 1931 01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:45,400 and reporting requirement and creating a 1932 01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:47,560 replenishment time frame. 1933 01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:48,680 >> So, moved. 1934 01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:49,880 >> Second. 1935 01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:51,680 >> Any discussion? 1936 01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:52,840 All in favor? 1937 01:14:52,840 --> 01:14:55,910 >> I. 1938 01:14:55,920 --> 01:14:57,600 » And we'll get a motion to adjourn into 1939 01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:04,830 executive session. Oh, I'm sorry. 1940 01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:07,240 I am so sorry. 1941 01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:12,150 Come right on up, Ms. Melissa. 1942 01:15:12,160 --> 01:15:14,000 » Good evening, Mayor and Council. Thank 1943 01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:15,880 you for having me back. The purposes of 1944 01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:17,360 my 1945 01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:19,120 time here this evening, I came to 1946 01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:22,160 present my fiscal report fiscal budget 1947 01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:24,360 for 26-27, 1948 01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:26,960 but I would like to go back just a 1949 01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:29,360 second and talk about the last time I 1950 01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:31,880 was here, which was for my Q3 report. I 1951 01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:33,680 had mentioned to you that we would have 1952 01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:36,080 all of our Lampasas promotion budget 1953 01:15:36,080 --> 01:15:39,240 allocated. And when I come for my Q4 1954 01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:40,720 report 1955 01:15:40,720 --> 01:15:42,320 in a couple months, 1956 01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:46,360 I will have a proposal. It's actually not a 1957 01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:48,240 proposal. It's actually the the 1958 01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:55,240 marketing campaign for the marketing funds that I agreed to use 1959 01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:57,000 by the end of this fiscal year. So, 1960 01:15:57,000 --> 01:15:59,720 which will be October or September 30th. 1961 01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:01,480 So, that is not in your packet this 1962 01:16:01,480 --> 01:16:03,480 evening, but I would like to make a 1963 01:16:03,480 --> 01:16:06,520 statement at the end of it and just read 1964 01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:08,400 that to you understanding where we're 1965 01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:11,920 headed as far as tourism in Lampasas. 1966 01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:13,920 So, the key takeaway for my marketing 1967 01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:17,160 campaign that will actually go on 1968 01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:21,040 through 2027, however, it started back 1969 01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:23,320 in August, is tourism marketing isn't 1970 01:16:23,320 --> 01:16:24,640 about convincing people to visit 1971 01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:26,680 Lampasas. It's about making sure 1972 01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:28,080 Lampasas can be considered when 1973 01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:30,280 travelers are deciding where to go. 1974 01:16:30,280 --> 01:16:32,040 By strategically investing hot funds 1975 01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:33,800 into a long-term digital tourism 1976 01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:36,240 initiative, Visit Lampasas is building 1977 01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:38,360 sustainable marketing assets that will 1978 01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:39,960 promote the community, support local 1979 01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:42,240 businesses, strengthen tourism, and 1980 01:16:42,240 --> 01:16:44,120 contribute to economic growth for years 1981 01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:45,160 to come. 1982 01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:47,480 One investment creates marketing content 1983 01:16:47,480 --> 01:16:49,600 that can continue promoting Lampasas for 1984 01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:51,600 years. That can That can continue 1985 01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:53,680 promoting Lampasas for years. I state 1986 01:16:53,680 --> 01:16:55,280 that because 1987 01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:57,720 it has been put upon me to actually 1988 01:16:57,720 --> 01:17:00,960 expand our digital marketing presence 1989 01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:02,760 through the Lampasas promotion line 1990 01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:05,040 item. And I do truly believe that we are 1991 01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:07,400 doing that. We are working very closely 1992 01:17:07,400 --> 01:17:09,160 with the city, very closely with the 1993 01:17:09,160 --> 01:17:12,080 EDC. I was at the EDC meeting last week 1994 01:17:12,080 --> 01:17:15,000 and it came up that we need to do a 1995 01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:17,280 better job at marketing Lampasas as far 1996 01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:19,600 as holiday promotions. Hunting is a 1997 01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:22,080 given, spring host kind of a given. We 1998 01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:24,000 are looking at doing a little bit more 1999 01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:26,480 marketing of our venues and actually 2000 01:17:26,480 --> 01:17:29,600 events that bring in different um 2001 01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:32,280 bridal events and 2002 01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:33,720 family reunions and things of that 2003 01:17:33,720 --> 01:17:36,320 nature. We have several different venues 2004 01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:38,680 that are popping up all around the city 2005 01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:39,960 and the county 2006 01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:43,800 that would bring in sales tax for retail 2007 01:17:43,800 --> 01:17:46,320 and dining and then also for lodging, of 2008 01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:49,680 course, the hotel motel tax. So, stay 2009 01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:52,120 tuned. We've got a lot coming up. I'm 2010 01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:53,440 working with a lot of different 2011 01:17:53,440 --> 01:17:57,040 resources to ensure that we are actually 2012 01:17:57,040 --> 01:17:59,920 expanding our footprint properly with 2013 01:17:59,920 --> 01:18:03,320 this new marketing campaign. We actually 2014 01:18:03,320 --> 01:18:06,360 are on several different platforms 2015 01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:08,480 including Google, Google Maps, Apple 2016 01:18:08,480 --> 01:18:11,080 Maps, Bing, Bing Maps, Yelp, Trip 2017 01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:12,760 Advisor, and additional online 2018 01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:14,360 directories and tourism platforms 2019 01:18:14,360 --> 01:18:16,000 including YouTube. 2020 01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:18,680 We have created three 48-second 2021 01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:20,720 commercials and then also one two and a 2022 01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:23,280 half-minute commercial and those are 2023 01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:25,240 already running and we will be 2024 01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:29,600 rebranding to do a Visit Lampasas um 2025 01:18:29,600 --> 01:18:32,000 brand instead of the Lampasas County 2026 01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:33,400 Chamber of Commerce and Visitor Center 2027 01:18:33,400 --> 01:18:34,480 brand. 2028 01:18:34,480 --> 01:18:37,800 So, Um, going back to my budget, 2029 01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:39,720 if you will notice on there my budget is 2030 01:18:39,720 --> 01:18:42,440 actually down 1722 2031 01:18:42,440 --> 01:18:45,320 for the year or for this coming year. 2032 01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:47,040 That is in a couple of different areas, 2033 01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:49,520 but I will open the floor up to any 2034 01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:51,840 questions based on the evaluation that I 2035 01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:53,400 provided 2036 01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:56,590 for this budget. 2037 01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:58,160 » It's tough 2038 01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:01,600 that you don't have a breakdown about 2039 01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:04,280 this marketing and promotional expenses 2040 01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:06,800 and more information about it. A lot of 2041 01:19:06,800 --> 01:19:08,280 the 2042 01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:10,000 platforms you just talked about like 2043 01:19:10,000 --> 01:19:12,600 search engines and whatnot. 2044 01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:14,400 Are you on there? 2045 01:19:14,400 --> 01:19:15,880 >> No, we're not. 2046 01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:17,360 >> How? 2047 01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:19,640 >> We're not because we do not we have not 2048 01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:21,680 tied into doing search engine 2049 01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:23,360 optimization. 2050 01:19:23,360 --> 01:19:27,680 We have not allowed our Visit Lake 2051 01:19:27,680 --> 01:19:31,240 Charles brand to be marketed on all of 2052 01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:32,480 those platforms and 2053 01:19:32,480 --> 01:19:34,240 >> you mean you haven't allowed? We've 2054 01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:35,480 allocated money for it. 2055 01:19:35,480 --> 01:19:37,760 >> we haven't had the content. I apologize. 2056 01:19:37,760 --> 01:19:39,920 We haven't had the content created. Now 2057 01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:42,680 we do have the content with those videos 2058 01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:44,480 to be able to 2059 01:19:44,480 --> 01:19:46,800 get that search engine optimization on 2060 01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:47,960 all those different platforms. 2061 01:19:47,960 --> 01:19:49,560 >> You don't need 2062 01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:53,920 two videos to get SEO movement. 2063 01:19:53,920 --> 01:19:55,080 I mean you're saying you couldn't get 2064 01:19:55,080 --> 01:19:56,720 any SEO movement because you didn't have 2065 01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:58,200 two videos? 2066 01:19:58,200 --> 01:20:01,120 >> No, I mean you have to purchase you have 2067 01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:02,760 to purchase with marketing companies to 2068 01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:03,600 get SEO. 2069 01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:05,120 >> for a business for a number of years 2070 01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:06,680 now. 2071 01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:08,320 I I just don't know why this is we're 2072 01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:12,560 just now talking about this in 2026. 2073 01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:14,160 Like there's not a breakdown of how 2074 01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:17,400 money's being spent for tourism marketing and promotional 2075 01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:18,840 expenses and your first statement and 2076 01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:20,880 second statement were the same thing. 2077 01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:22,720 >> So, 2078 01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:24,280 I do have a breakdown that's written 2079 01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:26,640 down. I've got printed maps, I've got 2080 01:20:26,640 --> 01:20:29,440 brochures, I've got tourtexas.com, 2081 01:20:29,440 --> 01:20:31,880 I've got newspaper digital newspaper 2082 01:20:31,880 --> 01:20:35,240 ads, I've got this AMP marketing um 2083 01:20:35,240 --> 01:20:37,200 campaign that we're doing, visitors 2084 01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:39,120 guides, 2085 01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:41,040 YouTube 2086 01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:42,840 uh YouTube 2087 01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:44,440 placement 2088 01:20:44,440 --> 01:20:45,120 um 2089 01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:47,040 >> How much is spent on 101 Fun Things to 2090 01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:49,200 Do, Texas Highways, Texas Events, or 2091 01:20:49,200 --> 01:20:50,560 Hill Country Trail? 2092 01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:52,160 >> Well, it depends. I mean, sometimes we 2093 01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:54,080 do those, sometimes we don't. Those are 2094 01:20:54,080 --> 01:20:55,840 >> Which ones are done this past year? 2095 01:20:55,840 --> 01:20:56,320 >> I'm sorry. 2096 01:20:56,320 --> 01:20:58,960 >> Which ones were done this past year? 2097 01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:01,800 >> Um this past year, we've done visitors 2098 01:21:01,800 --> 01:21:05,560 guides in other multiple communities. 2099 01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:06,560 We've done 2100 01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:08,840 >> So, none of those were 2101 01:21:08,840 --> 01:21:10,640 >> Let me get to the 2102 01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:16,990 ones that you asked about. 2103 01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:18,800 Where Okay, the 101 Fun Things, the 2104 01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:21,440 Texas Highways, we've done that. 2105 01:21:21,440 --> 01:21:22,800 Um the Hill Country Trail, we've done 2106 01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:23,480 that. 2107 01:21:23,480 --> 01:21:25,080 >> What was in those and how much was that? 2108 01:21:25,080 --> 01:21:25,640 Do you know? 2109 01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:27,880 >> They're just ads. So, they're just 2110 01:21:27,880 --> 01:21:29,800 tourism ads that we do. It's a placement 2111 01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:31,120 ad. It's a tourism ad. It's usually a 2112 01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:32,400 quarter page ad. 2113 01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:34,600 >> Monthly? Was it in one issue? 2114 01:21:34,600 --> 01:21:36,040 >> Most of them are quarterly. 2115 01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:36,440 >> Quarterly? 2116 01:21:36,440 --> 01:21:38,600 >> So, some of them are monthly. They're 2117 01:21:38,600 --> 01:21:41,000 extremely expensive. Print is extremely 2118 01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:43,600 expensive. That's why we didn't 2119 01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:44,760 I mean, you're talking thousands of 2120 01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:47,120 dollars. 2121 01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:48,000 >> It's just It's just 2122 01:21:48,000 --> 01:21:50,360 >> for one little ad for almost sometimes 2123 01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:53,200 just a business business card size ad 2124 01:21:53,200 --> 01:21:53,720 >> Which 2125 01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:55,440 >> in these publications that don't have 2126 01:21:55,440 --> 01:21:56,840 much distribution. 2127 01:21:56,840 --> 01:21:58,880 >> So, is it business card or half page or 2128 01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:00,320 quarter page? 2129 01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:01,360 Cuz you're saying most 2130 01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:02,920 >> on what you buy. 2131 01:22:02,920 --> 01:22:04,720 >> I don't know what you buy cuz I'm just 2132 01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:06,240 looking at what you're saying. 2133 01:22:06,240 --> 01:22:08,240 >> I've not had to provide that. I can go 2134 01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:10,120 back and I can provide that. 2135 01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:11,720 >> I mean, I'm not trying to be to be mean 2136 01:22:11,720 --> 01:22:13,120 or anything. It's just if you're if 2137 01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:13,680 you're asking 2138 01:22:13,680 --> 01:22:15,760 >> show you the breakdown. 2139 01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:16,520 Yeah. 2140 01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:19,080 I can show you what we spent 2141 01:22:19,080 --> 01:22:21,320 for this past year. 2142 01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:22,920 >> Cuz you start when you started out with, 2143 01:22:22,920 --> 01:22:24,880 I know we don't have this now, but this 2144 01:22:24,880 --> 01:22:26,280 is what I'm asking for my budget for 2145 01:22:26,280 --> 01:22:27,640 next year. 2146 01:22:27,640 --> 01:22:29,800 But I'm going to get back to you on what we're doing. 2147 01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:33,080 >> No, I've started it, but it'll be the 2148 01:22:33,080 --> 01:22:35,680 AMP agreement will be paid out before 2149 01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:37,600 the end of this fiscal year to use up 2150 01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:39,440 that Lampasas Promotions budget that you 2151 01:22:39,440 --> 01:22:41,080 asked me to use. 2152 01:22:41,080 --> 01:22:42,680 But it will go into it's an annual 2153 01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:45,000 contract. So that will go into the new 2154 01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:45,480 year. 2155 01:22:45,480 --> 01:22:46,640 >> I mean you you're saying it like that 2156 01:22:46,640 --> 01:22:48,200 I've asked you to use or we've asked you 2157 01:22:48,200 --> 01:22:49,760 to use. You asked for the money as part 2158 01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:51,600 of your budget, so it's it's of course 2159 01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:53,400 we're asking you to use it for that cuz 2160 01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:54,800 if not then we don't need to budget 2161 01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:55,960 that. 2162 01:22:55,960 --> 01:22:58,080 >> Sure. I understand. 2163 01:22:58,080 --> 01:22:59,320 >> And again, I'm not trying to be rude. I 2164 01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:00,520 just 2165 01:23:00,520 --> 01:23:01,800 I'm just trying to 2166 01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:03,840 >> I've ne- and I give the breakdown, I 2167 01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:05,960 give the receipts for what I've spent in 2168 01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:07,920 my quarterly reports and those come 2169 01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:10,280 every quarter. So those reimbursements 2170 01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:11,920 and those receipts are in that those 2171 01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:12,680 packets. 2172 01:23:12,680 --> 01:23:13,040 >> Okay. 2173 01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:15,040 >> They're not in this budget packet. But 2174 01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:15,560 they can be. 2175 01:23:15,560 --> 01:23:16,880 >> I need to go back and look at all four 2176 01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:18,000 of those and I just will not make a 2177 01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:20,640 decision today about about your budget. 2178 01:23:20,640 --> 01:23:21,800 >> Got it. 2179 01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:23,600 >> Well, I'm going to 2180 01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:25,560 update the ask to change the budget to 2181 01:23:25,560 --> 01:23:27,360 the amount of the visitor center budget 2182 01:23:27,360 --> 01:23:29,800 for 2017. 2183 01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:32,160 >> Second. 2184 01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:35,470 >> Any other discussion? 2185 01:23:35,480 --> 01:23:36,720 All in favor? 2186 01:23:36,720 --> 01:23:41,070 >> Aye. 2187 01:23:41,080 --> 01:23:44,720 >> Nay. 2188 01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:56,110 >> Thank you. 2189 01:23:56,120 --> 01:23:59,960 » Now we can get a motion to move into 2190 01:23:59,960 --> 01:24:00,760 executive session. 2191 01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:02,120 >> So moved. 2192 01:24:02,120 --> 01:24:07,870 >> Second. 2193 01:24:07,880 --> 01:24:09,520 » You want to read that, Kaylee? 2194 01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:10,160 >> Yes. 2195 01:24:10,160 --> 01:24:18,630 >> That's a lot of words. 2196 01:24:18,640 --> 01:24:20,000 » The city council of the city of 2197 01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:21,760 Lampasas, Texas will meet in closed 2198 01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:23,760 executive session pursuant to Texas 2199 01:24:23,760 --> 01:24:26,920 Government Code Chapter 551 as follows. 2200 01:24:26,920 --> 01:24:29,360 Section 551.074, 2201 01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:31,520 personnel matters, to discuss city 2202 01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:33,960 manager and city attorney. 2203 01:24:33,960 --> 01:24:36,240 Section 551.087, 2204 01:24:36,240 --> 01:24:38,560 economic development, to discuss project 2205 01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:39,760 heavy loads. 2206 01:24:39,760 --> 01:24:42,120 Section 551.086, 2207 01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:43,640 relating to the authority of public 2208 01:24:43,640 --> 01:24:45,880 power utility governing bodies to 2209 01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:47,480 deliberate regarding competitive 2210 01:24:47,480 --> 01:24:48,960 matters. 2211 01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:51,360 Section 551.072, 2212 01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:53,360 deliberation regarding real property, to 2213 01:24:53,360 --> 01:24:56,160 discuss land acquisition. 2214 01:24:56,160 --> 01:25:00,270 We can adjourn. 2215 01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:01,760 » All right. We'll 2216 01:25:01,760 --> 01:25:08,110 adjourn to executive session. 2217 01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:09,920 » All right. 2218 01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:11,400 Back to 2219 01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:14,040 our regular session. We've got a 2220 01:25:14,040 --> 01:25:17,150 item. 2221 01:25:17,160 --> 01:25:18,480 A motion? 2222 01:25:18,480 --> 01:25:21,240 to adjourn the session. 2223 01:25:21,240 --> 01:25:23,280 >> Uh motion to authorize staff to 2224 01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:26,000 negotiate the purchase of land for the 2225 01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:28,800 entry point improvement project 2226 01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:32,080 uh of 580 East and 190 East. 2227 01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:34,640 >> Second. 2228 01:25:34,640 --> 01:25:37,000 >> Any discussion? All in favor? 2229 01:25:37,000 --> 01:25:39,990 >> Aye. 2230 01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:41,280 » Motion to adjourn. 2231 01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:42,440 >> Second. 2232 01:25:42,440 --> 01:25:43,560 >> All in favor? 2233 01:25:43,560 --> 01:25:46,040 >> Aye.