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Good afternoon. Um, I don't know if the
mic's working, but I can hear myself. I

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don't know if you hear me. Yes.
Um,

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thank you all for being here. The
regular session of the Planning

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Commission of the City of Lancaster will
come to order. Tonight, our invocation

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will be offered by
a long time dear friend, Ron Guthrie.

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Um, and the pledge will be led by um,
Vice Chair Derryberry. So, if you'd all

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please stand.

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Mr. Chairman, Vice Chairman,
Commissioners,

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staff and guests, let's pray.
Dearly Father, Father, we thank you for

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this day. We thank you for the time that
uh, we get together here. Father, I pray

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that you would bring uh,
just wisdom and uh,

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grace to
the decisions and discussions that we

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make. I pray, Father, that you would
touch our hearts to improve our city, to

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keep our city growing, and to be the
light on the hill. We thank you and we

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pray in Jesus' name. Amen.
You guys remain standing and face the

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flag.
Repeat with me.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America

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and to the republic for which it stands,
one nation under God, indivisible, with

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liberty and justice for all.

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Thank you. Um
So, we have a new venue tonight um or

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this afternoon.
Apparently uh

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the city clerk is uh busy counting still
counting ballots. I you know, whatever.

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I kind of like this
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venue.
It's uh not quite as old as I am.

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Um
It's really nice, isn't it?

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So, tonight um we have three action
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Uh first thing we do typically is call
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here we are.

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Roll call.
Chairman Voss.

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Here. Vice Chair Derryberry. Here.
Commissioner Burke. Absent. Commissioner

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Corrieo. Here. Commissioner Hernandez.
Here. Commissioner Latonzi. Here.

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Commissioner Underwood. Absent.
We have a quorum. Thank you.

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Uh the first action item is a new public
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on tentative tract map 23-010.

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Um
Ms. is presenting on this. Yep.

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All right.
Thank you. Um I'll go ahead and get

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started. So, good afternoon, Chairman
Bowes, members of the Planning

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Commission. My name is Shannon Edwin.
I'm the case planner for this item,

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tentative tract map number 23-010,
map 83740,

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and for variance number 25-002.

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So, the proposed proposed project is
located on the west side of 20th Street

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West, south of Avenue H, and just east
of SR-14 and Amargosa Creek. The project

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site is zoned R-7000.
The subject property is surrounded by

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single-family homes and vacant land,
including the Amargosa Creek drainage

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channel and State Route 14 to the west,
and commercially zoned property to the

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north.
The applicant is David Horn, represented

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today by their engineer Brian Glidden.

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Next, we have a plan of the subdivision.
The project includes 47 single-family

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lots and two lots for drainage. Lots
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square feet. Access into the subdivision
would be provided from 20th Street West

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and from the neighborhood to the south
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The street surrounding the subdivision
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and new construction for the production
homes would require a separate

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director's review review as referenced
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And with the tentative map, the
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Typically, we don't see many uh requests
for variances. For context, a variance

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allows for a modification to development
standards under very unique

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circumstances. These are typically
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constraints that make it essentially
infeasible to comply with the code as

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written.
In this case, the city's municipal code

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allows subdivision perimeter walls at a
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The applicant requested a variance to
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tie into the existing walls bordering
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project site, and these are shown in the
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This would also This would allow the
height necessary to accommodate

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retaining and drainage for the site
while matching the existing design of

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the adjacent subdivision.
Therefore, as outlined in the staff

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report, staff found that the project
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variance.

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An IS/MND was prepared for the proposed
project and circulated for a 30-day

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public review in accordance with this
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One comment letter was received by the
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Management District or AVAQMD.
This letter reiterated AVAQMD standard

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requirements.
We also received a letter from uh,

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Caltrans today, which included their
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change to the IS/MND.
And a letter from CDFW was received um,

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right before this meeting. Um,
we reviewed it and it also included

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standard comments and similarly did not
necessitate changes to the IS/MND.

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With that, staff recommends the Planning
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approving TTM 23-010,
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and variance number 25-002,
adopting the IS MND and MMRP, as well as

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authorizing staff to execute and file
the NOD.

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This concludes staff's presentation.
Myself and the applicant are available

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for any questions.

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Thank you very much. Um I forgot to
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uh
at the beginning, anyone wishing to

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address us tonight relative to agenda
items is offered an opportunity once um

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the applicant, if they choose, has uh
the chance to comment on their proposed

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project.
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I'm not sure where the speaker cards
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They'd be uh the speaker cards in the
front, Chair Bose, and then they can

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deliver it here to me. They're on my
left. You're right. Um so, if you'd like

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to fill those out and um
pass them over to Mr. Nuren, he will

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then
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address us.
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I'm actually out of sync on the agenda.
I should have asked

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for the minute approval from the last
meeting, but we'll do that at the end. I

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mean, since we're in a new venue, I
mean, it's going to turn everything

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around.

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All right, then. Thanks, Mr.
Members, any questions regarding this?

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Uh does the applicant here wish to speak
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You're not obliged to, but you're
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All right.

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Good afternoon, Chairman Bose. You can
You can speak in your outside voice. I

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know you have one.

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All right, Mr. Good. Nice to have you
here. Yes, thank you. So, I'm the civil

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engineer and land surveyor on the
project and with me today is David

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Warren, the applicant, and we're
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Thank you.
I've kind of a unique um

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drainage
um concept on this. You're actually

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draining backwards, south to north or
north to south rather than south to

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north.
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pretty creative and considering the
topography of the property, that's

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the only way you could do it, I guess,
but uh

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interesting.

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Do we have any public comments on this
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There is one thing I wanted to clear at
Chairvos. Um Ms. Edwin, you said that

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the the two letters that were delivered
at to us today have been addressed and

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and we're comfortable with them. I
believe that I am. I just wanted to hear

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that from you as well. Yes, yeah, they
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we receive on almost every project.

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All right, thank you.
Chairvos, uh besides the applicant

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speaker cards, we do not have any
speakers for this item.

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All right, thank you.

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Any further?

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All right, then.
I'll move to close the public hearing

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without objection and consider a motion.

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I'll move that we adopt resolution
number 26-03 approving tentative tract

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map number 23-010
and variance number 25-002

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to allow for the subdivision of
approximately 11 gross acres into 47

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single family lots and two drainage lots
and a variance increasing wall height in

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the R-7000 zone south of Avenue H and
20th Street West on the west side of

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20th Street West identified as at Excuse
me, identified as assessor parcel number

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3114012069,

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adopting the initial study mitigated
negative declaration, and approving the

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mitigation monitoring and reporting
program, and authorizing staff to

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execute and file the notice of
determination.

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Thank you.
I'll have the second, please.

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I'll second. Thank you.

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All right, then. Anything further?
Uh we'll have a voice vote tonight. So,

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all those in favor, please say I. I. I.
I. Any opposed?

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So, the motion passes 5-0 with two
absent. We're going to do a verbal roll

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call just to clarify all that.
Pardon? We're going to do a verbal

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voting call just to clarify each of each
other's votes. Okay.

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So,
Chair votes?

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Oh, you want You wanted to record? Yeah,
just for the meeting.

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Chair votes? Your vote?
Your vote?

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Yeah, the air conditioner not too cool
in here, by the way.

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Uh
My vote is yes, and so is everybody

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else. So,

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Okay.
The reason for that is under the Brown

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Act, there were some changes made a few
years ago that don't allow voice votes

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anymore.
So, I I know I know it's a little bit

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cumbersome, but that's the reason why
we're asking for for the roll call. I

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hadn't read that in the Brown Act
lately, but that's okay.

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Go ahead.
Chair Vos?

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Yes. Yes.
Commissioner Burke or sorry, Vice Chair

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Derryberry? Uh my vote is yes as well.
Commissioner Burke is absent.

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Commissioner Curiel? Yes.
Commissioner Hernandez?

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Yes.
Commissioner Latonzi? Yes.

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Commissioner Underwood is absent.

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So it did turn out 5-0, right? Oh, all
right. Ready?

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All right. Next public hearing um
This is item number three, tentative

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tract map number 22-003.

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Ms. Alvarado is uh the presenter on
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Good evening or good afternoon Chairman
Vos and members of the Planning

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Commission. My name is Mitzi Alvarado
and I am the case planner on this

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project. This is tentative tract map
22-003

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for tract map 61573.

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The proposed project is located on the
southeast corner of Avenue H8 and 20th

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Street West or sorry, 20th Street East.
The project site is zoned R7000.

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The subject property is surrounded by
vacant land immediately north and south

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of the site and has a mobile home park
to the east and a single-family home

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across 20th Street East to the west. The
applicant is Radiocron Radiocron

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Enterprises LLC represented by Chris
Pinero.

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Here's the site plan of the tentative
tract map. The project proposal includes

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a subdivision of 20 acres into 77
single-family residential lots in the

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R7000 zone.
Lots range in size from 7000 to 13000

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square feet. Access into the subdivision
would be provided from Avenue H8 and

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20th Street East. All streets within the
subdivision would be private. Meandering

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sidewalks would also be provided along
Avenue H8 and 20th Street East. Project

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production homes for the subdivision
would require a director's review.

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An IS MND was prepared for the proposed
project and circulated for a 30-day

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public review period in accordance with
CEQA guidelines. One comment letter was

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received by Antelope Valley Air Quality
Management District or AVAQMD. This

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later This letter reiterated AVAQMD
standard requirements. The second letter

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was received today from CDFW requesting
minor revisions to the mitigation

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measure referring to the
pre-construction surveys.

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These draft changes were made and have
been provided in your packets.

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Public hearing notices were also mailed
to all owners and occupants within a

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500-ft radius and posted on on the
subject property in compliance with the

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Lancaster Municipal Code.

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With that, staff recommends the Planning
Commission adopt Resolution 26-004

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approving Tentative Tract Map 22-003,
which is 61573

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adopting the IS MND and the MMRP with
the noted changes to the

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pre-construction surveys mitigation
measure, as well as authorizing staff to

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execute and file the NOD. This concludes
staff's presentation. Myself and the

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applicant are available for any
questions you may have.

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Thank you.
Members have any questions of staff?

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Well, there is a
There was kind of a booklet handed to us

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as we started this about this project.
Um so, my concern is that the

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environmental impacts that have been
listed in this are being mitigated.

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They are. They're reflected now in the
minor revisions. Okay.

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Thank you.

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All right. Um

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The applicant here and wish to address
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Oh, there you are. You're hiding.

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Ms. Panero, how are you? Great. Great to
see you as a Always it's a pleasure to

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be here.
Uh Chris Panero with Rodeo Credit

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Enterprises. If you have any questions,
be happy to answer them this this

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afternoon. Thank you.
All right, thank you.

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Any speakers on this item? Chair votes,
there are no speaker cards.

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Thank you.
Um any further? No. No. All right, then

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it's appropriate to close the public
hearing

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without objection and consider a motion.

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Uh
I'll make a motion. So, um that we adopt

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resolution number 26-004 approving
tentative tract map number 22003,

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the subdivision of approximately 20
acres into 77 single-family lots located

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at the southeast corner of Avenue H8 and
20th Street West identified as

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assessor's parcel number 3154-002-094,

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adopting the initial study mitigated
negative declaration with the mitigated

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monitoring reporting program and
authorizing staff to execute and file

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the notice of determination.
Thank you.

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Second, please. I'll second that. Thank
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All right, then if there's nothing
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I guess we'll vote. We shall vote.
Chair votes. Yes.

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Vice Chair Derryberry. Yes.
Commissioner Burke is absent.

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Commissioner Corriel. Yes.
Commissioner Hernandez. Yes.

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Commissioner Latonzi. Yes. Commissioner
Underwood is absent.

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That's Motion passes 5-0 with two
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All right. The next item we will call as
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public hearing item.
Item number four, zone text amendment 23

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26-002.
Uh staff recommended that this item be

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continued.
Uh if there are any comments from the

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public relative to this item,
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Uh this item, if it's approved to be
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members, then
it will stay open until this agenda item

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again.

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Good afternoon, Chair Bose, members of
the Planning Commission. I'm Kendall

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Brekke, Planning Manager for Community
Development. Um I can reiterate the MART

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Compliance Program, which includes
amendments to Title 17 of the Lancaster

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Municipal Code related to MART, Massage,
Alcohol, Recycling, and Tobacco Uses, um

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are currently being prepared in close
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leadership, and so staff recommends that
the item be continued to the May 18th

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Planning Commission meeting.
MART Compliance, huh?

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That's correct.
>> Always have to have a name.

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So, when do you think the city attorney
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peer review will be done so we can
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As soon as possible. Um we are hoping to
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Commission meeting so that we can hit
the next meeting. Exciting. All right,

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great.
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the public hearing will stay open, and
this matter will be continued

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until it comes back.

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All right, then. And we do not need to
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Okay.
Um the next item is conditional use

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permit 25-005.

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Recommendation on this is also to be
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» Chair Voss, apologize for interrupting,
but we actually do need to vote uh to

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continue the item. But
We if we we noticed the item, so in

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order to keep the noticing intact, we do
need a formal vote to continue to the

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May 18th meeting.
I'll move that we um continue the Mark

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Compliance Program from today's agenda
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meeting.
Second.

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Anyone?
Second. Thank you.

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You know, that's a new process. The
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discretion to continued items in the
past for the last 18 years. But I guess

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something's changed. Thank you.
So it's a motion and seconded. Please

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call the vote, please.
Chair Voss? Yes. Vice Chair Derryberry?

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Yes.
Commissioner Burke is absent.

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Commissioner Corillo? Yes. Commissioner
Hernandez? Yes. Commissioner Latonzi?

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Yes. Commissioner Underwood is absent.
Motion passes 5-0 with two absent.

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Okay. Now we're on number five,
conditional use permit 25-005.

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This is also recommended to be
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I am. Ms. Alvarado. Yes.
Chairman Voss and members of the

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Planning Commission, my name is Mitzi
Alvarado. I'm also the case planner on

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this next item, which is conditional use
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which is for special events and live
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Due to public noticing not having been
completed, staff recommends it be

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continued.
Thank you.

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So moved.
Thank you, Steven.

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Second, please. Second. Thank you.

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And it's been moved and second to
continue this matter till

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it comes back.
Hopefully next month.

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We'll have a verbal vote. Chair votes?
Yes. Vice Chair Derryberry? Yes.

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Commissioner Burke is absent.
Commissioner Carillo? Yes. Commissioner

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Hernandez? Yes. Commissioner Latonzi?
Yes. Commissioner Underwood is absent.

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Thank you. Uh the motion passes 5-0 with
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Now we'll go back to item number one,
which is the roll call. No, not roll

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call. We already know we're here.
It's the minutes of this group,

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the regular meeting of January 26, 2026.

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So,
you all have an opportunity to review

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them. May I have a motion, please? I
motion to approve the

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the minutes from the last meeting. Thank
you.

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Have a second, please. I'll second.
Thank you.

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So, please call the roll again, please.
Vice Chair votes?

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Oh, sorry. Chair votes?

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Sorry, paper's small.
I yes. Vice Chair Derryberry? I'm I'm

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going to abstain.
Okay.

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Commissioner Burke is absent.
Commissioner Carillo? Yes.

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Commissioner Hernandez? Yes.
Commissioner Latonzi? Yes. Commissioner

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Underwood? Is absent.
So, the motion passes 4-0, one ab-

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stention, and
two absent.

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All right then, that concludes our
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Mr. Nguyen, you have something to share
tonight, this afternoon? Maybe a couple

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things. Good afternoon, Chair Vos and
members of the Planning Commission. I am

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Hai Nguyen. I'm the Assistant Director
for Community Development.

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Uh I want to thank you for another
well-run meeting, yet again. Uh this

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meeting is special because we do not
have our typical home-field advantage

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this time. So, I wanted to specifically
thank the Parks Department and uh Diane

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Beloy, uh our Communications team, Jen
Seguin and Annabelle, and the entire IT

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team for moving the village from point A
to point B, which was not an easy task.

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Uh they moved mountains. We are
literally live-streaming this meeting

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right now, if you couldn't already tell.
So, shout-out to our wonderful staff.

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Speaking of wonderful staff, uh wanted
to announce for the record that uh

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Kendall Brekke is our new Planning
Manager. Uh you'll be seeing a little

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bit less of me and a lot more of her,
which we can all agree is preferable to

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everyone involved. So, uh thank you,
Kendall, for stepping up.

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Uh and then the May 18th meeting will
definitely happen, hopefully back at the

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chambers, as expected, and we'll
definitely hear from the two items that

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we voted on to continue
um to the next one. So, until then,

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staff is always available for you. Thank
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Thank you.

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Any
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you'd like to
share, add?

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I heard there was an election
a couple weeks ago. I don't know what

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the vote the final vote will be,
but uh we'll certainly on behalf of the

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commission congratulate those who
participated, the voters,

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certainly the candidates, and whoever
whomever I should say, not whoever,

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whomever
uh becomes the successful

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city council members
um in about

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a week or two, I guess. Yeah. Anyway.

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So, we come to public business from the
floor. This is the time when

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uh anyone can address us on non-agenda
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Uh just be
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you just be informed that anything you
share with us uh we cannot take any

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action on, but we'll certainly uh be
happy to listen to you, and we have

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staff here who can um
answer your questions or give you

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further direction if that's what you're
looking for. So, do we have any uh

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speakers? There are no speaker cards,
chairperson.

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» Very good.

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All right then, if there's nothing
further, we'll stand adjourned

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to our next regular meeting of May
18th, 2026, 3:30

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in the
um city hall council chambers.

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Thank you all, and again thank you for
uh pulling all this thing together

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tonight or this afternoon.
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very challenging, I'm sure, for staff to
have to come

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out of their comfort zone and into a
venue that uh

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might have had some challenges I would
imagine. But certainly working with

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audio-visual issues are always uh
uh concern and uh you all did a fine job

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and thank you very much on our behalf.
Well, that the AL PAC staff always can

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make you sound good. I promise you that.
All right, gentlemen.

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All right, very good. Thank you all.
Good afternoon. Thank you. That's it.

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Not too bad, huh? So many
It's so bad. What do