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There we go. Good morning. Welcome to
the Lancaster County Board of

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Commissioners meeting for Tuesday,
September 1st, 2026.

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Um, I am your chair. My name is Christa
Yokum. To my left is Vice Chair Chelsea

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Johnson. To her left, Commissioner Matt
Schulty. and to my right, Commissioner

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Sean Flower Day. Please rise and recite
the pledge of allegiance with us.

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» I pledge algiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the

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republic for which it stands, one nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.

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Mr. Clerk, please start the meeting.
>> This meeting is subject to the Nebraska

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Open Meetings Act. Written materials to
be discussed at today's meeting can be

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viewed at the county's website at
lancaster.n.gov.

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Printed copies are available upon
request. Brings us to item one, minutes

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1a, approval of the minutes of the board
of commissioners meeting held in August

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25th, 2026.

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» I move approval of the minutes.
>> Second.

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» We have a motion and a second to approve
the minutes. Please call the role.

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» Flower,
>> yes.

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» Schulty,
>> yes.

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» Johnson,
>> yes.

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» Yokum,
>> yes.

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» Motion carries. 1B, approval of the
minutes of the board of commissioners

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budget meeting held on August 25th,
2026.

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» Move approval.
>> Second. We have a motion and a second to

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approve the minutes of the budget
meeting. Seeing no discussion, please

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call the role.
>> Shelty,

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» yes.
>> Johnson,

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» yes.
>> Flick,

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» yes.
>> Yokam,

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» yes.
>> Motion carries. Item two, claims.

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Approval of the claims processed through
August 28th, 2026.

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» Approval.
>> Second.

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» We have a motion and a second to approve
the claims. Please call the role.

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» Johnson?
>> Yes.

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» Flare?
>> Yes.

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» Shelty?
>> Yes.

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» Yokum?
>> Yes.

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» Motion carries. Item three, consent
items. These are routine business items

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expected to be adopted without dissent.
Any individual item may be removed for

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special discussion and consideration by
commissioner of any member of the public

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without prior notice. Unless there is an
exception, these items will be approved

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as one single vote of the board of
commissioners. These items are the

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approval of amendments to the following
county contracts. C-25-0680

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with Clyde Malone Community Center for
the CEO Initiative Program to extend the

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contract term. C-25-0681
with the Clyde Malone Community Center

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for the Therapy Program to extend the
contract term. C-25-0531

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with Centerpoint for the Square One
program. Uh C-23-0692

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with Ferguson Enterprises LLC for ice
melt. C-26-0247

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with Vermer Equipment of Nebraska
Incorporated doing this is as vermer

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high plains for repair services for
construction for purpose-built

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equipment. B grant contracts with the
following uh Blue Valley Behavioral

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Health for the diversion evaluation
program in the amount of $4,698.

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Pine Lake Behavioral Health for the
Diversion, Evaluations, and Outpatient

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Therapy Program in the amount of $5,000.
The YWCA of Lincoln for the catch life

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skills program in the amount of $44,854.
C grant contracts with the following.

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The YWCA of Lincoln for the catch life
skills program in the amount of $12,500.

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YWCA of Lincoln for the girls circle
program in the amount of $20,000. And

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finally, D receive and place and file
the 2026 annual inventory of county

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personal property for the county
engineer.

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Move approval.
>> Second.

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» We have a motion and a second to approve
the consent items. Seeing no discussion,

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please call the role.
>> Johnson,

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» yes.
>> Flowering,

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» yes.
>> Shelty,

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» yes.
>> Yokam,

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» yes.
>> Motion carries. Item four, public

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hearings. The first public hearing is
regarding the vacation of a portion of a

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public rideway generally located on
Theer Street and North 149th Street,

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East 300T, Village of Prairie Home.

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We I'm sorry. We need a motion to come
out of the um recess that we had for

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this public hearing. We started this a
couple of weeks ago.

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» So moved.
>> Second.

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» We have a motion and a second to come
out of the to end our recess and resume

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the public hearing. Please call the
role.

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» Flowerick.
>> Yes.

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» Shelty. Yep.
>> Johnson.

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» Yes.
>> Yokam.

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» Yes.
>> Motion carries.

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» Do you solemnly swear or affirm the
testimony you're about to give is the

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truth and nothing but the truth?
>> I do. Uh John Barry, Lancaster County

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Engineering. You know, as as Morgan had
said, this is the kind of continuation

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of the public hearing we had a few weeks
ago. So, just as a really quick

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refresher, Bayer Street is is a street
located in uh the unincorporated village

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of Prairie Home. It's a street that
looking back at old aerial maps hasn't

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been used as a street since the 1940s.
Currently, it's full of grass, weeds,

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and it has a few looks like little metal
buildings on it. So, Lancaster County

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Engineer is requesting that this street
at this time be vacated.

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» Just a followup question from last time.
I understand that there were some uh

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concerns around access
uh if we did move forward with vacation.

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Just are any updates in terms of
communication between the engineers's

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office and the land owner who brought
those concerns forward?

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» I have not heard anything. Nobody's
directly contacted me. I don't believe

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anybody's contacted Pam is Dingman,
county engineer. So,

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» they could have contacted though the
planning department too or somebody

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else, right? Not aware of that. Right.
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» Yeah. Okay.

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» Any other questions for John? I mean, I
guess I'll just respond. I I drove

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through I drove down the alley. I went
down to the end of the street and saw

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it. Sure does not look like the road
continues there at all. But, um,

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overall, can we comment on the other the
Are we open for the second item, too?

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Can I talk about that one as well? The
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» Yeah, I mean, they're the same town. If
you want you can do a second one as well

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at the same time.
It's just easier to keep.

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» Yeah, it is easier to keep them
separate.

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» I would say I have been contacted by the
land owner one of the land owners as you

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guys remember there was this land is
being divvied up due to a recent death

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in the family. I've been contacted by
one of the land owners over there. I'm

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until we have a very clear way to allow
the land all the land owners to continue

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to have all future aspect future
potentials on this one that they

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currently do. I'm not super inclined to
vacate this particular one um because I

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want to make sure that hey if there's I
know there's interest in developing some

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of the land to the east so I don't want
to shut down that opportunity for the

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land owners.
You'll need to swear him. Do

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» you solemnly swear or affirm that the
testimony you're about to give is the

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truth and nothing but the truth?
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» Um,
if it's the case, if you vote this down

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and we we would have to start the whole
process over again. Mhm.

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» So, it would be better to table it um
for a certain period of time so that we

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can um work this out with the land owner
and come back. It would be a better

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solution than to to vote not to vacate
the piece of ground. Thanks for that. I

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appreciate that advice and I'm totally
open to that. I'm not saying never. I

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just want to make sure that like I said,
one of the land owners is interested in

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development. That was one of the
opportunities that was presented to us.

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I want to make sure that hey, if they
want to try and put some housing on the

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east side of Prairie Home. I mean,
there's a

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there's a neighborhood kind of already
there. Like, it seems very reasonable

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that that could be something that could
be done in the future. Whether or not

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they actually do it in this near future,
I don't know. But I want to at least

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keep that option available for them
because currently they have that option

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and I I don't want to shut that down.
Can I I know I had suggested that we not

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talk about the two together, but now I
feel like I want a little clarification

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because it has been over a week um
between the two properties and I'm

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getting the stories on both of them a
little muddled in my head. So um

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» I move that we come out of recess on
item B, however that's referred to in

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our
>> regarding the uh vacation of the public

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right away and the wait.
>> Yeah. Well, yeah. Wade Avenue.

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Do we have a second for that?
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» Thank you. Um, please call the role.
>> Shulty,

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» yes.
>> Johnson,

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» yes.
>> Flard,

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» yes.
>> Yokum.

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» Yes. So, that's what I would like is a
little bit of clarification between the

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two properties just so that we're we
know which what we're talking about.

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So, John, um, for Commissioner Yokum,
could you please slide both exhibits up

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on the because she's she's having
trouble figuring out how they fit

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together, which I I understand

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a little higher.
>> So, when we see um the unopened road and

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the alley, hopefully hopefully,
Commissioner Schultzy, you didn't drive

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down this.
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down the wider one.
>> I'm I'm thankful for that today. And

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there should be one thing you're
thankful for. Um, and so the other road

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would be located right here and it's
highlighted on the bottom of this map.

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And we could probably fold them together
and and make a paper doll of them.

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» Okay.
>> For you, but I think that gives you a

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better photo of what's happening.

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» Yeah, it's not ideal, but it is helpful.
>> Hold on. I I can get closer.

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The alleyway I think makes a lot of
sense because it does have a major turn

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off or has a not a turn. There is the
option to exit a major road into this

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alleyway that clearly is not a road. Um
my car made it through. I do think there

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was some question as to whether or not
you guys as engineers might come through

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and level it out one last time or
something like that. I think that from

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my opinion that would be a good option
to do. Um but I I mean I'll leave that

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ultimate to I do think removing that
apron makes a lot of sense there too to

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shut down the alleyway.
>> Commissioner Yokum does that that is

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helpful. Thank you.
>> These are my old time engineering skills

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[laughter]
>> regarding the street one. Um,

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my recollection from our hearing last
week ago, I think it was, um, is that

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there was concern that the property to
the east would be completely blocked off

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from having public access. And there was
discussion around our

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kind of legal obligation to ensure that
every

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landowner would have access to a road.
So that's where my question was coming

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from was just around being able to
provide,

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you know, kind of meet our obligations
in that program.

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So right now there's properties that
make up several lots that all are under

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a single ownership. As county engineer,
you know, we're not aware of when people

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are transferring ownership or u when
people pass. We have no idea how they

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pass their land on. So I I don't really
have any opinions on that. Again, if you

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would like to wait um so that we can
track down uh the person or the actual

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owners of the land, you know, we also
don't know uh if the person that came

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and spoke was representing every family
member. And when you're going to deal

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with multiple family members, in this
case, I think there's at least six,

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maybe more. Uh we're gonna need a little
time to track that down. Um we

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if you'd like to delay the vote on that,
I'm fine with that.

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» Have a vote on it today.
>> So I think that you have a little time

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out then.
>> And I think a lot of this has to do with

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planning too, not just engineering,
right?

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because it has to do with planning and
engineering because when we say access

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to that property, at least I mean a very
general access, but planning department

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has very specific regulations on what
kinds of access they can have to land

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that allows them to develop it.
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it has to be a road a road, not just
they have access.

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» Go ahead.
>> Do you saw me swear or affirm the

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testimony about to give us the truth and
nothing but the truth?

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» I do. Um, commissioners, I also just
wanted to add as well, um, if the

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concern is allowing potentially that
property owner to the east to have

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access to a public ride ofway. Um, John
and George both reached out to our

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office to discuss the ability for the
board in their discretion to distribute

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that land upon vacation, [clears throat]
excuse me. Um, you know, so

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traditionally we discussed that it was
usually split between the adjacent land

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owners. um looking back at the statute
3917253

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um gives some pretty wide discretion to
the board. There doesn't seem to be any

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limitation on how you choose to
distribute that vacated land. So if your

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concern is about allowing them to have
that access after conversation um and

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and it's not really a discussion about
development, but it's more discussion

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about access and that's where you land.
there's a way to distribute it that

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allows them to still be able to access
that road um without violating any other

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issue. Um so there there's both case law
and um statute that support that. So you

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have pretty wide discretion to decide
where you want it to go.

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» Okay.

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Any other questions for anyone who's
standing before us before I ask for any

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other members of the public wishing to
speak?

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Is there anyone else present wishing to
speak on this during this public

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hearing?

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» Do you solemnly swear or affirm the
testimony you're about to give is the

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truth and nothing but the truth?
>> I do.

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» Can you please state your name and sign
in?

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» Yeah. Be Travis Jones.

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uh
as you're aware most likely I was here

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last month to speak on this behalf and
uh after the meeting I did go ahead and

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I went upstairs and talked to I believe
it was Stephen Hendrickson from the

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planning department had a good
conversation with him about going

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forward and got some information from
him. And then I did reach out to uh Mr.

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Barry here about 4 days after the
meeting asking what we should do to

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proceed forward and he told me that it's
up to you guys and there's nothing we

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can do in the meantime. So I did try to
reach out to the department of

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engineering to get some clarification on
how we could solve this ahead of time.

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So I just wanted to state the record on
that. Uh as you're aware with this here

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though, it will landlock this piece here
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We don't want to restrict access to
that.

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I drove by it this morning
and there has been some I'm going to say

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development on that part. The person
that lives there looks like they are

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bringing in some project material. Uh, I
did talk to one of the other neighbors

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in Prairie Home here this morning and he
said that the day after the meeting last

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month, rock trucks started hauling rock
to that spot. I'm assuming it was not

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the Department of Roads and there is a
giant pile of rock kind of right in the

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corner there. So, I'm hesitant to delay
this much further because it looks like

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he's trying to put in a retaining wall
of some sort and bringing in loads of

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rock. Are you talking about the land
owner just north of the

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» correct the house owner that's right
here?

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» I mean there's some pretty permanent
stuff in there already. Right

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» to to the north he's got a house and uh
and then I think on this easement here

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or the the the public rideway there is
uh I'm going to say like some old fuel

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barrels, logs. He is a landscaper. I
think he's piled up some extra dirt and

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sand and some extra plants that he's had
throughout the years and just kind of

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filled in the area with what he had
sitting around. I guess I don't think

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there's anything permitted as far as I'm
aware. There's a small very small shed

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maybe like 10 foot by 10 foot or
something on the part of the easement or

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part of the roadway. Uh and and I did
talk to my uncle. I talked to him after

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the meeting that is going to inherit the
ground and he did state that he would

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like it opened up so he has public
access and he can access his farm but we

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were waiting to do that until after the
estate is settled which will be in

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November the end of November. Uh I
brought my aunt with me uh who is part

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of the estate as well to to support I
guess to

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not have this closed to have it opened
up in in all honesty.

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» So I just want to make sure I understand
what you're saying. So you're saying

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that the landowner on the north appears
to be putting gravel that could

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potentially make be converted. He thinks
he might be able to convert that even

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though he clearly doesn't own it and
couldn't

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» I don't know what his plans are. I have
not spoken to him, but he has started

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some work there. I don't know. He's got
a couple of retaining walls. Uh,

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go back to this picture here. He's got
these retaining walls here.

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» Yeah.
>> That's not on the It's all honesty, I

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think, would be on the county roadway to
begin with, and then he's piling up a

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whole bunch of gravel right in here
currently.

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» Okay. So, I I'm hesitant to let it go
much further because I think it'll just

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continue to compound.
>> Yeah.

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» Okay. Thank you. The engineer isn't
planning. You guys don't have a pile of

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rock that you guys have put in there,
have you?

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» To do anything on this on the road
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» I don't believe so. Um, talking with
Pam, we do not. Um, the county does, we

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went out there a few months ago, stake
some of the rideaway points. We do have

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some plans to regrade the existing
roads.

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» Sure.
>> Take care of some ditches and just do

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some dirt work there, but as far as I
know, we haven't done any piling of

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rock.
>> Okay.

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» And things like that.
>> Thanks, John.

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» Well, I wasn't sure. I saw the stakes
and I know that the plan was, but I

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didn't think that they were moving on
that quite yet. So

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» yeah,
>> when we last had the hearing, uh, we

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discussed kind of like the default plan
would be to basically split it in half

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and with half going to the northern
property owner and half going to the

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southern property owner. Um, that would
not address your concerns. Is that

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correct?
>> Correct. After talking to Steve

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upstairs, Stephen upstairs, he stated
that would give us access, but that

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would limit any potential future
developments on that property without a

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piece
adjoining it being purchased. So, a

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roadway could be built. An easement does
not allow access for

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I believe any sort of houses in case he
wanted to build an acreage. Not certain

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on that, but I know if there was some
sort of development with more than one

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house, it for sure would prevent
anything from happening back in there.

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Uh I'm not certain on a single house,
but I assuming that would be the case as

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well because there would not be a public
address to that.

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And once it gets split up, my uncle will
not have access to his farm. and he was

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requesting to have it opened up, but he
was waiting till after.

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» He owns it,
>> correct? And

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» right,
>> we're we're moving along a little

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faster. Just odd how things work out, I
guess.

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» Yeah.
>> Okay.

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» Thanks. [snorts]
>> Is there anyone else from the public

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wishing to speak on this in during this
public hearing?

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Seeing none
here

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» to talk about the Avenue.
>> Is there anyone? Thank you. Yeah. Um we

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we also have the hearing for the
property on Weight Avenue open. Is there

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anyone here to speak on that?
>> Thank you, John. [snorts]

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You have anything more to say on that
one?

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» Not really. Again, this is a roadway
that that is the commission Schulty went

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down. It's basically grass. It has two
little ruts in it. People have been

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using it to do whatever they do. The
alley strictly is grass. It doesn't

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appear, I think through the last hearing
people came and talked about it that

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it's actually used to access any of the
property property currently. So, and

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Miss Dingman did recommend or did talk
about removing the access onto um 148th

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Street that return and possibly even
adding some little signs or something

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saying something like that.
>> Thank you. Questions for John? Is there

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anyone else wishing to Is there anyone
wishing to speak on this public right

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away on Weight Avenue? Please come
forward and you'll need to swear in and

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state your name and sign in on our sheet
if you would please.

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Do you solemnly swear or affirm that the
testimony you're about to give is the

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truth and nothing but the truth?
>> I do. Hi, my name is Malcolm Carney. I

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was here last month to speak on the same
topic

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and I just want to pretty much say the
story again just because there's new

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faces. Um, I own the property here. Um,
I'm currently mowing for my neighbor

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here. She broke her foot and she
couldn't be here today. Um, when mowing

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her side of the property, um, the ruts
are definitely a problem. I broke the

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front, uh, axle off my lawn mower cuz I
wasn't paying attention. Uh, there is a

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lot of traffic that goes up and down
there that, uh, is not, I say, good

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traffic. We have rats from tire marks.
Another neighbor stated that they go up

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and down there when it's wet for fun,
which it's fun for them, not so fun for

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the guys taking care of it. Uh, I'm sure
the county doesn't want to deal with

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ruts from people just out having fun
either. Um, yeah. Other than that, I'd

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like to see it closed down. Um, yeah,
then there's no way you'd be getting a

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vehicle down that road anytime soon
since the trees have been there more

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than a few days. So, [laughter]
but yeah, I'd love to see that get

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closed down, maybe restrict access to
the public driving through there,

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tearing things up, having problems. Like
I said last time, um I had somebody

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break in through that access point. They
jumped the fence and they were parked

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along that road. Uh and that's how they
entered my property. Um so one less way

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for someone to get public access in
jumping a fence and stuff like that. Be

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very much grateful. So thank you.
>> Thank you for your testimony.

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» Is there anyone else wishing to speak?

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Seeing none,
>> I'll make a couple comments. So, I

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stated at the beginning I was opposed to
that one and a support of this one. I

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still generally in the same place. I
would like to see us vacate, wait, and

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divide it equally between the the
adjacent properties. The one that's on

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the right now, what I would be most
interested in is a six-month uh to table

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that idea and give it six months for the
ownership to transfer. And then at that

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point, I'd be interested in asking our
attorneys or the county engineer,

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whoever, to come back to us with a
recommendation that does allow for

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development still to happen on the east
side of that.

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» Please,
>> I advise us how we should proceed on

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this because we're not making a decision
now in the public hearing. Um, but

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again,
>> but I I understand your

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» um Yes. So regarding withholding, so
current county resolution R1940 is what

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sets our policy on those road vacations.
So generally it's

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generally it's recommended that we make
a decision at the next meeting. Um or we

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are allowed to wait for as soon
thereafter as practical. Um I'm not sure

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that's going to be in your discretion to
kind of determine what um you deem to be

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as practical. if you want to. I I
wouldn't personally recommend we wait

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for the court system to figure out
probate. I think there's conversations

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that could be had with the property
owner um make some decisions prior to

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that. So, I would recommend not six
months. I think you can you can delay a

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little bit longer, but I would I would
wait not that long.

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» Why?
>> Um you it's just not it's not requ.

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» Well, I mean then that would be going
against our own county policy. we have

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it written in our own resolution that we
do at the next meeting or assume

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thereafter is practical.
>> That's fine. Bring it forward at the

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next meeting, but at the next meeting
then we can delay it for six months.

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Like if we if you put an item on our
agenda next week and we could all vote

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for six months to delay it,
>> but that's still delaying the vacation

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or the abandonment of the rideway. It's
not

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it's not withh you're withholding the
actual vacation itself, not the

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resolution, if that makes [snorts]
sense. You're saying our uh You're

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saying that our policy is to make a
decision yes or no either at the next

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meeting or as soon as practical.
>> Uhhuh.

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» Yes.
>> Thank you.

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I still think a delay would be
appropriate in this. I also think that

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asking for a recommendation from our
attorneys of planning that allows for

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development to happen further east on a
is a good idea.

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» I have a procedure question if you would
please. So

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at this point our options are to close
this public hearing.

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» Yes.
>> And is item C is a separate public

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hearing? Yes. So I just want to be clear
on that.

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» Yes. [laughter]
>> Yeah. We're not

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» okay. None of none of what was just
discussed will be voted on today. No,

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» no matter what, because it's just the
action items aren't there. Yeah.

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» Right.
>> Do we have a motion to close the public

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hearing for item A and item B?
>> So moved.

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» Second.
>> We have a motion and a second to close

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the public hearing on item A and item B.
These are the vacations on the Walt

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Avenue. Please call the role.
>> Johnson,

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» yes.
>> Flick,

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» yes.
>> Shulty,

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» yes.
>> Yokum,

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» yes. Motion carries.
>> We will now open the public hearing

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regard regarding amending the Lancaster
County zoning and subdivision fee

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schedules.

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» Do you solemnly swear or affirm that the
testimony you're about to give is the

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truth and nothing but the truth?
>> I do.

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» David Kerry, director of the Planning
and Development Services Department, 555

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South 10th Street. Uh thank you for some
of your time today, commissioners. Um

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what I have before you uh is also what
we uh briefed you on last Thursday at

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the staff meeting. Uh is a proposal to
increase the um planning and development

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services department uh application fee
schedules for both uh 2026 and 2027

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fiscal years. Um the proposal is a 2.4%
increase each year. That number is based

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on the Midwest region consumer price
index uh from January. It's a little bit

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more elevated now than um but what the
purpose is behind the incremental

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regular updates is to keep these
increases smaller instead of waiting

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five or more years and then they become
10% 12% 15% increases which is a little

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bit harder to for applicants to uh
handle all at once. So that is the the

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process that we've been taking for
several years now. Um and so the

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proposal uh this amount um would
approximate around $28,000 based on last

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year's full amount of revenues coming
into the department for uh reimbursement

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into the general fund for the county. So
um that is our practice is we take these

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revenues and um they do go back to the
general fund for both the city and the

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county. Um the city uh council uh on the
city side of this and the city budget

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approval did approve uh a comparable uh
schedule of fee increases last Monday

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when they approved the budget. Uh so
that is in place now for the city uh

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going into the beginning of the city
fiscal year starting today, September

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1st. Um, I think I would just uh falize
my comments by saying that this amounts

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to uh overall for both the city and the
county about $5,400 more in year one and

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then another additional 5,400 million
million,000

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uh in year two. Um, so that's the
approximate amount of increased revenue

421
00:32:07,919 --> 00:32:13,840
that this would result in. So with that,
I will see if you have any questions.

422
00:32:12,399 --> 00:32:19,120
» I have no problem with it. Maybe you
said uh why where' we get 2.4%

423
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:22,080
Where did we get it?
>> Yeah, just where I think you're doing it

424
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:26,320
the right thing. I have no problem with
these. Why that?

425
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:30,159
» 2% or 3% or whatever.
>> Yeah, the 2.4% is literally the January

426
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:31,679
Midwest region CPI.
>> Got it. Thank you.

427
00:32:30,799 --> 00:32:36,559
» That's exactly what it is.
>> Thank you.

428
00:32:33,279 --> 00:32:41,679
» Now, these incremental um changes make
sense rather than a large uh change all

429
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:45,120
of a sudden.
>> I think they make sense. You said

430
00:32:43,039 --> 00:32:48,559
comparable. So, is it the exact same fee
schedule between the county and the

431
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:52,480
city? It is not the exact same. The the
difference there the different one

432
00:32:50,799 --> 00:32:56,720
difference I think we're all aware of is
the um the appeal to final action from

433
00:32:54,559 --> 00:32:59,840
the planning commission. Um two years
ago the city council determined they

434
00:32:58,399 --> 00:33:04,559
would were not going to include that in
their fee schedule and uh two years ago

435
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:09,440
the county board did agree to do that.
>> So that's where if someone has a problem

436
00:33:06,799 --> 00:33:14,320
with a zoning action inside the city's
jurisdiction which includes the three

437
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:18,799
miles and they file an appeal, they
don't have to pay a fee. But if they

438
00:33:16,159 --> 00:33:23,120
live still outside the settlements but
just a little further away from the

439
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:25,840
city, then they do have to pay a $160
fee.

440
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:31,200
» Correct.
>> Okay. I think we should eliminate that

441
00:33:28,399 --> 00:33:34,799
fee. There's no no there's a it's an
imaginary boundary that exists between

442
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:40,000
the three mile jurisdiction and outside
the three-mile jurisdiction.

443
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:43,120
I think it it shows some urban versus
rural distinction. We feel like the

444
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:46,000
urban people, the urban people shouldn't
have to pay it, but the rural people do.

445
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:47,840
Like that doesn't make any sense to me.
So I think we should

446
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:50,159
» I think the urban people should pay it
too. I was

447
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:53,120
» I think that [laughter] we are right and
the city is wrong.

448
00:33:51,039 --> 00:33:55,440
» Right. Right. I don't I don't disagree
that I wish there was consistency. I

449
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:58,720
just think they're wrong.
>> Yeah.

450
00:33:57,039 --> 00:34:02,320
» Well, we only have we only have control
over what we have control of. And right

451
00:34:00,399 --> 00:34:07,399
now we are creating the distinction by
having the fee. No, they created the

452
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:07,399
distinction last year

453
00:34:09,599 --> 00:34:16,960
» and this came about because there were
some many people when they filed there

454
00:34:14,079 --> 00:34:21,599
is a legitimate reason clearly but we
had some that were somewhat frivolous

455
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:24,560
that took up a lot of staff time um and
and and that sort of resources.

456
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:29,040
» What kind of
>> how this came

457
00:34:25,919 --> 00:34:32,000
» was how this came about.
>> I don't remember any frivolous ones. It

458
00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:35,760
actually was before you were here, but I
don't want to get into one one that was

459
00:34:34,240 --> 00:34:39,359
» I don't want to name anyone. There was
one that was

460
00:34:37,119 --> 00:34:44,320
» when you read it, it was gibberish. I
mean, it just it just wasn't it just

461
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:48,480
wasn't sens like it wasn't
it and it did actually take up some

462
00:34:46,079 --> 00:34:52,320
time. So
like to this day, I'm not sure anybody

463
00:34:50,159 --> 00:34:56,200
was sure what that what what that appeal
was trying to accomplish.

464
00:34:57,599 --> 00:35:03,040
I just have a lot of respect for our
urban neighbors and I think our our

465
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:08,760
rural neighbors and I think our rural
neighbors shouldn't have to pay

466
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:08,760
something that the urban people don't

467
00:35:13,839 --> 00:35:19,520
» and I would also add this was a new fee
couple years ago. This is one that was

468
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:25,280
added. I oppose it then. I oppose it now
and I will continue to oppose it because

469
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:28,280
it's unfairly charging rural
residents.

470
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:37,839
» Any other um questions or comments for
David Kerry? Is there anyone else

471
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:41,760
wishing to speak on this specific item
on the uh zoning and sub subdivision fee

472
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:48,640
schedules?
Any members of the public?

473
00:35:45,119 --> 00:35:52,960
Seeing no one, we could um entertain a
motion to close this public hearing.

474
00:35:51,599 --> 00:35:55,040
» So moved.
>> Second.

475
00:35:53,599 --> 00:35:58,640
» We have a motion and a second to close
this public hearing. Please call the

476
00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,240
role.
>> Johnson,

477
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,760
» yes.
>> Flower,

478
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:02,960
» yes.
>> Shulty,

479
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,800
» yes.
>> Yokum,

480
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,440
» yes.
>> Motion carries.

481
00:36:06,079 --> 00:36:09,359
» I'm not sure that was a public hearing.
I think that was just a public hearing

482
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:11,280
action item.
>> No,

483
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:14,079
» no, that was the public hearing. Next is
the action item.

484
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,000
» Yes, Commissioner.
>> You're right. You're right. I'm wrong.

485
00:36:15,119 --> 00:36:20,480
» Yep.
>> 5A, the public hearing action item on

486
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:26,280
the resolution in the matter of adopting
the Lancaster County zoning and

487
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:26,280
subdivision fee schedules.

488
00:36:26,720 --> 00:36:32,160
» Uh, I'll second. Do you do you want to
make a motion to break out anything or

489
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:35,680
just going to vote to do?
>> Yeah.

490
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:39,280
» We have a motion and a second to adopt
the zoning and subdivision fee

491
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:42,880
schedules. Please call the role.
>> Wait, wait, no. I'm making a motion.

492
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,520
» Okay.
>> That's what you just say. Yeah, he just

493
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:49,760
asked me that.
>> I want to I want to make a motion to

494
00:36:47,359 --> 00:36:52,760
strike the fourth line appeal of final
action.

495
00:36:59,359 --> 00:37:09,599
Seeing no second, motion dies,
>> we'll go back to our original motion

496
00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:12,320
uh to to adopt the z the zoning and
subdivision fee schedules. Please call

497
00:37:11,440 --> 00:37:14,240
the role.
>> Flick. Yes.

498
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,760
» Shulty.
>> No.

499
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:16,880
» Johnson.
>> Yes.

500
00:37:16,240 --> 00:37:20,000
» Yokum.
>> Yes.

501
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:24,079
» Motion carries.
>> Commissioners, that brings us to new

502
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:29,920
business item 6A. A purchase and sale
agreement with New Generation Properties

503
00:37:25,839 --> 00:37:33,920
LLC. A Edgie Partners LLC and RH Rogers
Investment Code. Purchase real estate

504
00:37:31,599 --> 00:37:38,160
described as lots 1 through 12, Block
90, Original Lincoln, Lancaster,

505
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:42,320
Nebraska. Commissioner, do you mind if I
talk about this one a little bit?

506
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:47,680
» Please. Um, I'm really excited for this
item. This is a big deal. This is a huge

507
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:52,000
deal. In fact, I think the media here
are expecting to cover the budget sto

508
00:37:50,079 --> 00:37:55,200
the the budget finalization here, but
they're going to get two stories at it

509
00:37:53,200 --> 00:38:00,240
today. Um, I'm looking at all of you
right now. Uh,

510
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:05,520
this is the this is the county purchase
of the block for the Lancaster County

511
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:08,560
Convention Center. We have come to an
agreement with the land owners. I want

512
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:11,920
to thank the land owners. uh they have
been excellent to work with through this

513
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:16,320
process. I want to thank the legal teams
on both sides. They have done really

514
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:21,680
diligent work for months now to get this
all lined up. The county attorney's

515
00:38:18,079 --> 00:38:25,920
office, um our staff here, Kent, your
whole team have been really great to

516
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:32,000
work with. Um and I'm very very excited
to move this forward. So, I will make a

517
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:36,880
motion to approve item 6A, the purchase
of block six of 90.

518
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:39,440
» Second. We have a motion and a second to
approve. Is there any further

519
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:42,960
discussion?
>> Yeah, I'd like to say a couple things. I

520
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:46,800
had the chance to travel with the
Lincoln Chamber of Commerce to a couple

521
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:50,880
other capital cities uh over the last
couple years, specifically Boise and

522
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:55,599
Madison. I've also
just personally been through De Moine

523
00:38:53,119 --> 00:39:00,960
that all three of them have a public
convention publicly funded in various

524
00:38:58,240 --> 00:39:04,880
ways convention centers in their capital
city. And I just think it's it's helped

525
00:39:03,119 --> 00:39:10,240
those communities so much to be able to
have a place for conventions to happen

526
00:39:07,119 --> 00:39:13,280
in the shadow of their capital, allow
participants to be able to go over to

527
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:19,200
the capital, advocate for their
positions, um learn more about the

528
00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:23,280
process, be engaged in the state um
state system. I really like this. I'm

529
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:28,800
very supportive. I understand there are
people that have questions and um I

530
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:33,440
think one of the big questions I still
get asked is why did we land on this

531
00:39:30,720 --> 00:39:36,880
location and the location is a very good
location because it's very close to the

532
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:42,480
capital most people expected it to be
closer to the hay market but after a

533
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:44,400
significant study um that that the team
that

534
00:39:43,599 --> 00:39:47,599
» what's the group called
>> Assemble Lincoln

535
00:39:45,119 --> 00:39:52,240
» Assemble Lincoln thanks that Sean Flower
and Assemble Lincoln studied very hard

536
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:56,240
and they determined that they're just is
not a real viable place in the hay

537
00:39:54,320 --> 00:40:01,520
market and this is the best place for
it. It's near the capital. It's going to

538
00:39:58,880 --> 00:40:05,119
expand the down the whole downtown. It's
going to expand out and to to meet this

539
00:40:04,079 --> 00:40:08,079
create some more restaurant
opportunities and things like that in

540
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:13,119
this area. So, I think it is a great
location. I'm excited about it. I also

541
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:17,599
recognize that while we're buying the
land, we are still waiting for the

542
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:22,480
turnback tax to be signed, right? Um, we
expect that I should say I expect that

543
00:40:20,240 --> 00:40:28,160
it will be signed still at some point.
Um, exactly when is to be determined.

544
00:40:25,119 --> 00:40:30,640
Um, but I am very very much looking
forward to the Capitol City Convention

545
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:33,119
Center.
>> Well said. I I appreciate your support

546
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:37,440
in this. You've you've been a real
advocate for this project. Um, this is a

547
00:40:35,839 --> 00:40:40,720
really exciting next step. It's not the
it's not the whole the whole battle won,

548
00:40:39,119 --> 00:40:45,119
but this is a really really exciting
next step. and to have this land secured

549
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:48,400
and to be moving forward with this
project is it's a really really good

550
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:53,200
feeling after having worked on it for a
long time. The funny thing about this

551
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:57,280
site, so Assemble Lincoln did their
whole we did our whole analysis of many

552
00:40:55,280 --> 00:41:02,880
many many sites started with over 1500
sites, narrowed it down to one in the

553
00:40:59,119 --> 00:41:07,680
end through our whole process. Um, and
the when we finalized it, it wasn't

554
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:11,440
until after that fact that we while
talking with the city historian, we

555
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:17,359
found articles from uh I think it was
1990 when the city council then had done

556
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:19,839
a study and chose the exact same block.
>> Oh, really?

557
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:24,000
» I will get you I will get you those
articles so you can see it. This block

558
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:28,560
has been picked twice generationally
separate. We were totally unaware that

559
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:32,160
that had even happened previously. This
location has been chosen twice to be the

560
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:35,520
site of a convention center and
recommended to the public at large. So,

561
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:38,640
I'm I'm I'm really really excited about
this.

562
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:42,240
» Kent, do you or your team want to say
anything? You don't have to. Just if

563
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:46,200
anybody wants to.
>> Sorry.

564
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:46,200
» It's okay.

565
00:41:51,599 --> 00:41:55,760
» You don't need to be sworn in. We're not
in a public hearing, so we would welcome

566
00:41:55,040 --> 00:42:00,960
your comments.
>> Well, thank you so much. Uh it's an

567
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:05,119
honor to be here. Kent Serest
representing the block 90 property

568
00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:09,760
owners and there's three that were
mentioned already. New Generation

569
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:14,400
Properties. Uh Lawrence Smith, vice
president of Speedway Properties, which

570
00:42:12,079 --> 00:42:20,800
is an affiliated organization. She's
here today uh representing that group.

571
00:42:18,079 --> 00:42:26,079
And we have Kelly Heirs with the First
Bank and Trust Company of Mindon who

572
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:32,960
represents the other two property owners
on block 90. It's been a long journey,

573
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:40,079
but yet we got so many more steps to go
that will be equally exciting when they

574
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:45,520
can occur as well. Uh, Sambble Lincoln,
uh, Senator Elliott Boar,

575
00:42:43,119 --> 00:42:50,400
the other seven members,
Commissioner Sean,

576
00:42:47,839 --> 00:42:55,599
thank you for all of that extra extra
extra effort. The the commissioners

577
00:42:53,440 --> 00:43:00,560
themselves, you've been actively
involved and that's been so much

578
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:06,400
appreciated. U, the Block 90 property
owners have stayed in there. We had the

579
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:10,880
and still do have the Capital City
Convention Center Coalition, which are

580
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:18,800
the property owners around who want to
see this go forward. Uh we had DLA

581
00:43:14,240 --> 00:43:22,640
Rotary Club number 14 as a major sponsor
and I'm probably forgetting many other

582
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:30,000
key stakeholders that have been involved
in this decision process. Uh, we are

583
00:43:26,319 --> 00:43:35,520
obviously hopeful as Commissioner
Schulty just mentioned that the I'll get

584
00:43:33,119 --> 00:43:41,040
to see if I can say all these words. The
Convention Center Facility Finance

585
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:46,560
Assistant Act Board will approve your
application that you made several months

586
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:56,079
back along the way. And I too want to
thank uh Abby Montgomery, David Durban,

587
00:43:51,440 --> 00:44:00,079
Daniel, and team for sticking with us
and working through this. And with that,

588
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:03,280
I'd be glad to answer any questions you
may have.

589
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:05,839
» I just want to say thanks to everybody
on both sides who worked with it. It was

590
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:07,760
a heavy lift and it took a long time,
but I'm real pleased to be here.

591
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:11,440
» Yeah.
>> From that list of names that you read,

592
00:44:09,839 --> 00:44:15,920
that shows that how much the community's
invested in this already um and eager to

593
00:44:14,319 --> 00:44:17,440
see this happening. Thank you for your
role.

594
00:44:16,319 --> 00:44:21,599
» Yes, thank you.
>> I um as you we were talking about

595
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:26,000
location and I see people from the
chamber and visit Lincoln here in our

596
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:29,599
audience. I'm envisioning there can be
activity happening in the Hay Market.

597
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:32,960
There can be a concert or something
happening while there's a two or three

598
00:44:31,119 --> 00:44:37,520
day conference happening in another part
of our community. Um so I really do

599
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:42,480
appreciate this location for those kinds
of opportunities. Then this you said

600
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:46,400
people may be here to hear about our
budget. Um, but it's also hard for me to

601
00:44:44,720 --> 00:44:50,800
separate this from our budget because
this is the way we think about budget.

602
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:54,800
We think about the things we have to do.
This is the way this board has thought

603
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:59,440
about our our budget all along, the
things we must do in our county, but

604
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:04,560
also what's the future and this really
represents the future and and some

605
00:45:01,359 --> 00:45:08,079
diversification for us. So, um, I really
appreciate this.

606
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:10,160
» Anyone else wishing to speak on this
topic?

607
00:45:08,880 --> 00:45:14,400
» This [clears throat] is exciting. Thank
you for all of your hard work to make it

608
00:45:12,720 --> 00:45:16,960
happen.
>> Um, please call the roll.

609
00:45:16,240 --> 00:45:18,160
» Johnson,
>> yes.

610
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:19,760
» Flower,
>> yes.

611
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,520
» Schulty,
>> yes. Yokum,

612
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:24,839
» yes.
>> Motion carries.

613
00:45:25,599 --> 00:45:34,839
» Brings us to item 6B, a resolution
recognizing the month of September 2026

614
00:45:30,079 --> 00:45:34,839
as Mash National Preparedness Month.

615
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:45,200
Good morning. Jim David Saber, director,
Lincoln Lancaster County Emergency

616
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:48,720
Management. When it comes to planning
and preparedness, that's a message that

617
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:53,280
I share with everybody, every
opportunity I get. But I certainly

618
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:57,280
welcome the county board's consideration
of the resolution before you this

619
00:45:54,960 --> 00:46:01,359
morning. Um, anything I can do to
emphasize that, uh, to leverage that

620
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:05,520
moving forward so people make simple
plans to minimize the chance that

621
00:46:03,119 --> 00:46:08,560
they'll be negatively impacted. The
graphics that I'm showing are the ones

622
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:13,839
that have been adopted by the Department
of Homeland Security to promote this

623
00:46:11,119 --> 00:46:18,800
year's uh theme of Americans stand
ready. And then as we work our way

624
00:46:16,079 --> 00:46:23,920
through the month, there are weekly
themes. It's not new information. It's

625
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:28,160
just emphasizing, reinforcing the
information that's already out there.

626
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:31,520
So, as I said, I I try to promote simple
information, give people good

627
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:36,720
information that allows them to make
good decisions that will hopefully uh

628
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:41,920
end in good results. So, I I appreciate
your consideration of the resolution

629
00:46:38,319 --> 00:46:44,240
before you this morning.
>> Again, this is important to our

630
00:46:43,359 --> 00:46:49,319
community, isn't it?
>> Absolutely.

631
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:49,319
» Any questions for Thanks.

632
00:46:49,839 --> 00:46:53,839
» We have a motion.
>> Move approval.

633
00:46:51,599 --> 00:46:57,040
» Second. We have a motion and a second to
approve this resol important resolution.

634
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:58,240
Please call the role.
>> Johnson,

635
00:46:57,760 --> 00:46:59,599
» yes.
>> Flower,

636
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:00,640
» yes.
>> Schulty,

637
00:47:00,240 --> 00:47:01,920
» yes.
>> Yokum,

638
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:05,319
» yes.
>> Motion carries.

639
00:47:06,079 --> 00:47:11,200
» 6 C. A resolution in the matter of
authorizing the county clerk to issue

640
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:13,440
payments while the county board is
adjourned.

641
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:15,680
» Move approval.
>> Second.

642
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:18,000
» We have a motion and a second to
approve. Please call the role.

643
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,359
» Flower?
>> Yes.

644
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,480
» Shelton?
>> Yes.

645
00:47:19,839 --> 00:47:22,400
» Johnson?
>> Yep.

646
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:26,880
» Yokam. Yes.
>> Motion carries.

647
00:47:24,319 --> 00:47:30,880
6 D. Resolution in the matter of
approving the Lancaster County fiscal

648
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:35,920
budget for fiscal year of July 1, 2026
to June 30th, 2027.

649
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:43,200
All right. Dennis Meyer, Lancaster
County Budget and Fiscal Officer.

650
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:49,760
Today is just kind of I'd like to say
our final step, but we've still got a

651
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:55,040
couple couple more. But, um, today the
resolution is to adopt the budget.

652
00:47:52,720 --> 00:47:59,079
And, um, I'm going to pull the
resolution up here

653
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:10,319
so that you can kind of see in this
resolution, we kind of note changes from

654
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:14,960
the budget hearing that was held last
week. So, last week at the budget

655
00:48:12,720 --> 00:48:20,160
hearing, we talked about a lot of
different things. The one item that came

656
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:27,520
up was the discussion of the allowable
growth piece. Moving from 4 point or

657
00:48:24,559 --> 00:48:36,079
moving from my projection
of 1.6 to 2.26% 26%

658
00:48:31,839 --> 00:48:41,599
which then would allow the county to
bump up to um a 3.99%

659
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:48,960
increase [snorts]
in property tax, which would still

660
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:52,400
leave us out of what I always refer to
as the pink postcard meeting. And I know

661
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:58,720
me and Christa kind of talked a little
bit about pink postcard. Just to remind

662
00:48:54,800 --> 00:49:07,680
everybody, uh that is the joint public
hearing for any school, city, or county

663
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:12,960
that um does not levy within a 2% plus
growth number. Um there's a there's

664
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:19,440
another hearing for that. This would
keep us out of that. So, um that was

665
00:49:16,720 --> 00:49:27,119
kind of the goal from the beginning. The
adoption of this budget maintains that

666
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:31,680
goal. So, what's on here is um
increasing the general fund property tax

667
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:35,680
by 402,000 and from last week's
discussion was increasing the

668
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:43,280
contingency piece
um knowing that we've got the spending

669
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:48,440
authority there as the board figures out
what what they actually want to do with

670
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,440
that.

671
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:56,640
» Any questions?
I think you and your team should be

672
00:49:53,920 --> 00:50:00,559
really proud of this was another heavy
lift and it's taken, you know, half a

673
00:49:58,559 --> 00:50:04,000
year to build this thing and you've done
a really excellent job. I'm really

674
00:50:01,839 --> 00:50:07,119
pleased with this. I think we can all
hold our head high not having to go to

675
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:11,359
the pink postcard meeting. I think we
can all [snorts] hold our head high

676
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:17,040
knowing that we've been responsible
stewards of, you know, taxpayer

677
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:20,960
resources. So, I'm I'm I'm very pleased
with this budget. It's it it feels a lot

678
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:25,599
better to be where we're at now with
this budget than what we did a year ago.

679
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:29,920
» Absolutely.
>> I Dennis, I did talk to you about one

680
00:50:27,839 --> 00:50:35,280
little change I wanted to make. I'm just
curious. So, I I want to make sure that

681
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:39,359
the traffic study, transportation
traffic study is paid not paid for out

682
00:50:37,359 --> 00:50:42,960
of the building fund, which was where it
was originally proposed to come out of.

683
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:47,200
Said I'd rather be paid for out of the
contingency fund. How should I do that

684
00:50:45,599 --> 00:50:53,680
before we make a motion? And how would
you like me to address that particular?

685
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:57,040
» Well, I I think I think for the from my
standpoint, I think it can be done

686
00:50:54,960 --> 00:51:02,720
either way. The the reason we're setting
it up this way is that

687
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:05,680
» discussions can still be held by the
county board on what they want to do

688
00:51:04,720 --> 00:51:07,520
with that.
>> Um,

689
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:11,040
» we already have the spending authority
in the contingency fund. So, if it's

690
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:13,520
there, we can do it whenever.
>> Okay.

691
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:15,280
» Which I'm not saying don't. I'm just
Yeah,

692
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:18,559
» you can do it now. You can do it next
week. You can do it whenever. I and the

693
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:21,040
reason I just I didn't I wasn't didn't
have a chance to be here Thursday to

694
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:24,880
really make my case for that. But the
reason I want to do it is our building

695
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:28,960
fund. We've got some major things
pending with our building fund. Uh

696
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:34,000
specifically around some of the engineer
facility study stuff we've been talking

697
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:40,160
about of needing to upgrade or replace
some buildings that are

698
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:43,440
very old and can't even hold the
equipment we're about ready to buy

699
00:51:41,839 --> 00:51:47,599
because they were built so long ago.
They're not large enough. So, I really

700
00:51:45,359 --> 00:51:52,800
want to protect that building fund so
that we can um

701
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:56,640
so we can be able to make some
adjustments to those facilities so we

702
00:51:54,559 --> 00:52:00,319
can rightly store our equipment. So,
that's that's where my interest in that

703
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:06,559
comes.
>> Yeah. And and and from my standpoint, I

704
00:52:02,800 --> 00:52:11,839
think that discussion can take place um
throughout this budget year. Okay.

705
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:20,480
» And so, I don't think it has to be a
final decision right now. Yeah. Okay.

706
00:52:17,119 --> 00:52:22,640
So, that will come up then when like
>> um

707
00:52:21,119 --> 00:52:26,960
» I stay ahead of it because it's easy to
lose track of

708
00:52:23,359 --> 00:52:31,599
» Yeah. I mean I I think um what what I
would say is we still have to to hold a

709
00:52:29,839 --> 00:52:36,400
hearing to set our final property tax
request. What I would say it would come

710
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:41,440
up uh and that's got to be all done
before September 30th. So, I would say

711
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:45,359
it would probably it could very well
happen in uh in October. [clears throat]

712
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:49,520
» Okay.
I I mean I'm very excited about this

713
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:53,040
budget for the most part. I think it
does a lot of things. It does keep us in

714
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:57,119
the right in the right lane as far as
the the growth cap and stuff like that.

715
00:52:55,200 --> 00:53:01,599
One area that I am concerned about and
has continued to come up over and over

716
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:05,200
is the engineers budget and questions as
to whether or not that budget is growing

717
00:53:03,280 --> 00:53:11,440
fast enough to keep up with demand to
accomplish our strategic plan of paving

718
00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:16,960
some roads uh that need to be paved. I
think there's legitimate concerns as to

719
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:20,960
how much is the budget actually growing
because we are rolling over a bunch of

720
00:53:19,119 --> 00:53:24,640
incumbrances. So, it's easy for us to
say, "Hey, well, we're giving them more

721
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:28,960
than they had last year, but a million
of that is actually just we're rolling

722
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:33,359
our spending authority forward forward
to this year." A big chunk of that is.

723
00:53:31,440 --> 00:53:38,640
And so, I have a lot of concerns around
that particular piece of the budget. I'd

724
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:44,640
really like for us in future budgets to
look at prioritizing that piece from our

725
00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:48,720
strategic plan. Uh, as well, I am going
to vote for this budget, but I do want

726
00:53:46,720 --> 00:53:54,880
to be very clear. we do need to
prioritize some of the roads and roads

727
00:53:51,599 --> 00:54:00,160
issues um in future budgets
and specifically next year. Um so I I I

728
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:04,640
recognize there's been a big a lot of
conversation around the engineers

729
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:08,720
budget. I know you can slice it multiple
different ways, but I do think we are

730
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:11,839
not at the end of the day we are not
growing it fast enough to be able to

731
00:54:10,079 --> 00:54:15,400
accomplish what's in our strategic plan.
That is for sure.

732
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:19,880
Any other questions or concerns?

733
00:54:20,319 --> 00:54:24,480
We have a motion.
>> I move approval.

734
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:28,640
» Second.
>> We have a motion and a second to approve

735
00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:34,480
the Lancaster County fiscal budget for
fiscal year um July 1, 2026 through

736
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:35,920
2027. Please call the role.
>> Shelty,

737
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:37,040
» yes.
>> Johnson,

738
00:54:36,559 --> 00:54:38,240
» yes.
>> Flardy,

739
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:39,599
» yes.
>> Yokum,

740
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:45,040
» yes.
>> Motion carries.

741
00:54:42,079 --> 00:54:50,240
6E. a resolution accepting maintenance
responsibilities for certain roads

742
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:53,839
located within the Miller Edition.
>> Uh good morning again, John Barry,

743
00:54:51,680 --> 00:54:57,760
Lancaster County Engineering. Justin
Mueller, who is one of the developers

744
00:54:55,359 --> 00:55:01,280
for Mueller Edition, came to us probably
two to three years ago requesting that

745
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:07,119
the county take over maintenance of this
subdivision. Um the subdivision was was

746
00:55:04,079 --> 00:55:12,480
originally platted in 2014. Uh you as a
board in 2023 passed a resolution about

747
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:15,440
new roadways and subdivisions being
private. So unfortunately or

748
00:55:14,079 --> 00:55:20,240
fortunately, this one is one of those
that's grandfathered in. Um this

749
00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:23,920
subdivision is a little bit unique in
that the roads here are concrete, you

750
00:55:22,559 --> 00:55:28,640
know, so they spend some money to get
this right. Um generally when we get a

751
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:32,880
request to go out and the county to take
over maintenance, usually the county

752
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:36,559
surveyor, myself or or whoever it was at
that time, also we get the road

753
00:55:34,880 --> 00:55:40,480
superintendent and we get a couple of
our engineers. We go out and we do

754
00:55:38,319 --> 00:55:43,440
inspections of the roadways. We just
look at the roads. We look at the

755
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:47,280
culverts. We look at any obstructions
that are in that roadway. We look at

756
00:55:45,359 --> 00:55:52,160
ditches. We do we have a little list of
of what we take take. We then send that

757
00:55:50,079 --> 00:55:56,880
list to whoever the applicant is. In
this case, Mr. Mueller. Um it's taken

758
00:55:54,799 --> 00:56:01,520
him about two to three years to go
through his list and repair all those

759
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:05,440
items. A couple of weeks ago, Roger
Hooenfeld, who is our district

760
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:09,040
superintendent, and myself, we went out
and we looked at this subdivision. Um it

761
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:13,119
appears that everything has been
completed and now we are he is

762
00:56:11,359 --> 00:56:17,079
requesting that Lancaster County take
over maintenance of this.

763
00:56:21,803 --> 00:56:26,880
[snorts]
>> Any questions, comments?

764
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:31,599
» I move approval.
>> Second. We have a motion and a second to

765
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:32,880
approve. Please call the role.
>> Johnson,

766
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:33,920
» yes.
>> Flower,

767
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:36,240
» yes.
>> Shelty,

768
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:40,240
» yes. Yokum.
>> Yes.

769
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:44,480
» Motion carries.
6F. Recommendations from the purchasing

770
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:48,960
agent on behalf of the county engineer
to award and execute purchase orders for

771
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:55,200
the following. Nebraska Machinery Co.
for one CAT 4207 backhoe in the amount

772
00:56:52,319 --> 00:57:02,640
of $168,32.
Nebraska Machinery Company for two 953

773
00:56:58,559 --> 00:57:07,040
track loaders in the amount of $673,770.
Midwell Turf and Irrigation Co. for one

774
00:57:04,720 --> 00:57:10,040
Toro Groundmaster 4000D in the amount of
$99,259.95.

775
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:16,880
Bobcat of Lincoln for two Bobcat 185LE
air compressors in the amount of

776
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:23,119
$68,700.
Anderson Ford for two 2027 or newer Ford

777
00:57:20,559 --> 00:57:28,960
F-150 4x4 Super Cab pickup trucks in the
amount of $90,984.

778
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:34,000
Anderson Ford for one 2027 or newer Ford
F350 4x4 regular cab pickup truck in the

779
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:39,440
amount of $71,671.
And finally, truck center companies for

780
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:46,760
four 2026 or newer cab chassis only with
accessories in the amount of 5,800,

781
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:46,760
excuse me, $584,94.

782
00:57:47,599 --> 00:57:58,079
Pam Dingman, Lancaster County Engineer.
Uh so to just start at the top of this

783
00:57:53,040 --> 00:58:02,319
list of seven, um our uh our current uh
and we call this our little backhoe.

784
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:08,400
This is our little rubber tired low uh
load uh backhoe um pad has experienced

785
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:13,599
engine failure and so it was about 20
years old. So this replaces that

786
00:58:10,079 --> 00:58:18,559
machine. Um the Nebraska machinery for
the track loaders, our two track loaders

787
00:58:15,839 --> 00:58:26,079
in this case are from 2005.
Um so this will replace those.

788
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:32,720
um our uh Toro groundmaster mower. And
so we have 12 facilities as well as we

789
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:38,319
mow uh our own main campus um to include
the area around the sheriff's building

790
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:43,119
and the extension building. Uh we had
bought a mower about 10 years ago as

791
00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:50,000
surplus from parks. We looked for a
surplus mower. Again, um recently, uh

792
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:54,240
while looking at 98 Street, um on the
PES property, I noticed they had about

793
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:59,680
10 of these new mowers. And I have to
say, I was like super envious. Um in in

794
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:06,079
this case, we were not able to find a
used mower. So, uh this would replace uh

795
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:11,920
that uh mower, which is um no longer in
good running condition. Uh the Bobcat uh

796
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:15,440
for the two air compressors replaces two
air compressors uh that are from the

797
00:59:13,839 --> 00:59:23,440
1990s.
The um Anderson Ford replaces two

798
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:30,559
trucks. Uh we had bought uh surplus
police uh vehicles from LPD because they

799
00:59:27,119 --> 00:59:35,520
um they put those up for internal sale
at a much lower mileage rate. Um they

800
00:59:33,599 --> 00:59:40,480
still have some good miles left in them.
Uh however, we had one last month that

801
00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:44,880
started on fire, which is not awesome,
and another one that has a failing

802
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:47,920
engine. Uh these two trucks will replace
those for our inspectors. It's very

803
00:59:46,559 --> 00:59:57,119
important for them to be able to get out
to site in a timely way. Um and then, um

804
00:59:52,960 --> 01:00:02,480
the Ford uh 350 is for our grading crew,
and it replaces um a truck that also is

805
01:00:00,799 --> 01:00:05,359
having extreme mechanical issues. We
have not been having good luck with

806
01:00:03,839 --> 01:00:12,079
these trucks lately.
And then lastly, um the truck center

807
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:18,559
trucks for uh 2026 or newer chassis
only. And so uh you'll be re you'll be

808
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:25,200
seeing a another item to upfit these
trucks with plows and all the gear that

809
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:31,359
they need in order to uh move rock and
snow. So, um we are going with a

810
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:35,920
different upfitter in the future because
we have had a lot of delivery issues

811
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:40,559
with the seven trucks. Uh three of which
we ordered in uh four of which we

812
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:45,520
ordered in 2024 and three of which we
ordered in 2025

813
01:00:42,799 --> 01:00:50,400
uh have still yet to be delivered to us.
Um, that being said, I am very concerned

814
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:55,440
about our truck fleet going into the
winter and I'm hopeful that we can um

815
01:00:53,200 --> 01:01:00,559
get some trucks delivered so that we can
start um uh not worrying about the

816
01:00:58,799 --> 01:01:04,680
mechanical issues of our trucks as much
as we have the last couple years.

817
01:01:07,839 --> 01:01:15,040
» Sounds good. Thanks for doing what you
can to keep our roads in good condition

818
01:01:13,040 --> 01:01:19,040
and make some improvements, too. I move
approval.

819
01:01:16,559 --> 01:01:22,079
» Second. We have a motion and a second to
approve. Please call the role.

820
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:23,200
» Johnson,
>> yes.

821
01:01:22,559 --> 01:01:24,240
» Flity,
>> yes.

822
01:01:23,599 --> 01:01:25,520
» Shulty,
>> yes.

823
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:28,960
» Yogurt,
>> yes.

824
01:01:26,559 --> 01:01:33,520
» Motion carries.
6G,

825
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:36,480
authorizing Daniel J. Z, Chief Deputy
County Attorney, to sign an engagement

826
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:40,720
letter with Great Plains Appraisal
Service for Appraisal Services.

827
01:01:39,839 --> 01:01:44,319
» Move approval.
>> Second. We have a motion and a second to

828
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:45,440
approve. Please call the role.
>> Flower,

829
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:46,799
» yes.
>> Shelton,

830
01:01:46,319 --> 01:01:47,920
» yes.
>> Johnson,

831
01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:49,359
» yes.
>> Yokum,

832
01:01:48,559 --> 01:01:54,000
» yes.
>> Motion carries. 6H, a memorandum of

833
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:56,640
understanding with the Nebraska
Department of Health and Human Services

834
01:01:55,359 --> 01:02:01,680
and the Lancaster County Attorney's
Office regarding death information

835
01:01:58,799 --> 01:02:03,440
reporting.
>> Move approval.

836
01:02:02,559 --> 01:02:06,559
» Second.
>> We have a motion and a second to

837
01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:08,000
approve. Please call the role.
>> Shelton,

838
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:09,040
» yes.
>> Johnson,

839
01:02:08,559 --> 01:02:10,880
» yes.
>> Flowy,

840
01:02:10,079 --> 01:02:15,119
» yes.
>> Yum.

841
01:02:11,599 --> 01:02:20,200
» Yes. Motion carries.
Brings us to item seven, which is

842
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:20,200
reserved for exec session.

843
01:02:20,799 --> 01:02:27,119
» Uh, I would move we go into executive
session at 10:02

844
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:29,440
for the purpose of receiving legal
advice and to protect the public

845
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:32,079
interest.
>> Second.

846
01:02:30,240 --> 01:02:37,680
» We have a motion and a second to go into
executive session for legal advice and

847
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:40,400
to protect the public interest at 10:02
a.m. Please call the role.

848
01:02:39,839 --> 01:02:42,079
» Johnson,
>> yes. Flower Day,

849
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:43,200
» yes.
>> Shelty,

850
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:45,040
» yes.
>> Yokum,

851
01:02:43,839 --> 01:02:50,760
» yes.
>> Motion carries.

852
01:02:46,079 --> 01:02:50,760
» We are now in executive session for

853
01:57:10,320 --> 01:57:14,400
move we come out of executive session at
10:57 a.m.

854
01:57:13,280 --> 01:57:18,800
» Second.
>> We have a motion and a second to come

855
01:57:15,840 --> 01:57:24,800
out of executive session at I don't have
my time stamp for me. At 10:57 a.m.

856
01:57:22,400 --> 01:57:26,159
Please call the role.
>> Johnson,

857
01:57:25,440 --> 01:57:27,440
» yes.
>> Flower,

858
01:57:26,800 --> 01:57:28,960
» yes.
>> Schulty,

859
01:57:28,080 --> 01:57:30,000
» yes.
>> Yokam,

860
01:57:29,599 --> 01:57:34,400
» yes.
>> Motion carries.

861
01:57:32,800 --> 01:57:37,679
The next item is item eight, public
comment. Members of the public wishing

862
01:57:36,000 --> 01:57:40,239
to speak on items relating to county
business not on the agenda may do so at

863
01:57:39,520 --> 01:57:43,280
this time.
>> Are there any members of the public

864
01:57:41,599 --> 01:57:48,639
wishing to speak on items not on the
agenda?

865
01:57:45,040 --> 01:57:52,080
» Seeing none, we may entertain a motion
to adjurnn.

866
01:57:49,679 --> 01:57:55,040
» Move we adjourn.
>> We have a motion and a second to

867
01:57:53,440 --> 01:57:56,639
adjurnn. Seeing no discussion, please
call the role.

868
01:57:56,000 --> 01:57:57,920
» Flower,
>> yes.

869
01:57:57,199 --> 01:57:59,280
» Schulty,
>> yep.

870
01:57:58,639 --> 01:58:00,560
» Johnson,
>> yes.

871
01:57:59,679 --> 01:58:04,360
» Yokum,
>> yes. Motion carries

872
01:58:12,239 --> 01:58:18,239
at the back of the room.
The first item on our agenda is approval

873
01:58:16,880 --> 01:58:21,599
of the minutes for the board of
equalization meeting held Tuesday,

874
01:58:19,760 --> 01:58:24,480
August 18, 2026.
>> Move approval.

875
01:58:23,040 --> 01:58:27,679
» Second.
>> We have a motion in a second. Please

876
01:58:26,320 --> 01:58:28,960
call the role.
>> Flower.

877
01:58:28,400 --> 01:58:34,520
» Yes.
>> Schulty.

878
01:58:29,599 --> 01:58:34,520
» Yeah. Johnson. Yes. Yokum.

879
01:58:35,920 --> 01:58:42,400
» Motion [snorts] carries. Do you have an
agenda? Okay. Next item on the agenda is

880
01:58:40,880 --> 01:58:45,280
additions and deductions to the tax
assessment rules.

881
01:58:43,760 --> 01:58:48,400
» Approval of the additions and deductions
to the tax assessment rules.

882
01:58:47,280 --> 01:58:51,199
» Second.
>> I got it.

883
01:58:49,520 --> 01:58:52,639
» We have a motion and a second. Please
call the role.

884
01:58:52,080 --> 01:58:54,000
» Shulty.
>> Yeah.

885
01:58:53,360 --> 01:58:55,199
» Johnson.
>> Yes.

886
01:58:54,560 --> 01:58:57,440
» Flower.
>> Yes.

887
01:58:55,599 --> 01:59:04,760
» Motion carries.
Next item is appeal of the 2026 special

888
01:59:01,040 --> 01:59:04,760
green belt valuation.

889
01:59:06,159 --> 01:59:08,560
» Move approval.
>> Uh,

890
01:59:07,920 --> 01:59:09,920
» we got
>> Oh, sorry.

891
01:59:09,280 --> 01:59:10,560
» Please come.
>> Sorry.

892
01:59:10,239 --> 01:59:14,000
» Yep.
>> I didn't I was I was just reading it.

893
01:59:12,560 --> 01:59:17,679
» Yeah.
>> The number of times I've done that.

894
01:59:16,000 --> 01:59:21,040
» Hi, Brian Grim, Lancaster County
Assessor Register of Deeds. I was

895
01:59:19,760 --> 01:59:25,599
looking through the information on this
and I just kind of wanted to make a

896
01:59:22,400 --> 01:59:29,840
clarification. uh the property owner
didn't believe that the improvement

897
01:59:27,440 --> 01:59:33,760
value could go up if his land value goes
down. That's why they were protesting

898
01:59:31,599 --> 01:59:38,159
this
and I want to clarify how that happens.

899
01:59:36,239 --> 01:59:44,080
If you use a straight market regression
analysis or a cost approach that would

900
01:59:41,040 --> 01:59:48,960
be very valid, but we use a sales comp
approach which makes adjustments. So

901
01:59:47,040 --> 01:59:55,119
anytime
you have a change on that subject, the

902
01:59:52,000 --> 01:59:59,679
three comps also make adjustments. So in
this case, what it did, and it's treated

903
01:59:57,760 --> 02:00:03,760
the same way on this property as every
other property in Lancaster County, it

904
02:00:02,080 --> 02:00:09,360
made more adjustment on the improvement
side. And then what it does is through

905
02:00:06,320 --> 02:00:14,080
the calculation process, it's weighted.
It moved the improvement up a little bit

906
02:00:11,599 --> 02:00:17,520
more than what it was. and then it
splits off the land from the

907
02:00:15,440 --> 02:00:23,080
improvement. So just wanted to make a
clarification is that's how how that can

908
02:00:20,080 --> 02:00:23,080
happen.

909
02:00:24,080 --> 02:00:31,599
» So you're you're just telling us you're
not making any adjustment to the

910
02:00:29,440 --> 02:00:36,320
recommendation.
No, that I would say the the value that

911
02:00:34,000 --> 02:00:40,960
the county put on it was was equalized
because if they would have had that

912
02:00:38,800 --> 02:00:44,960
special valuation at the beginning of
the year, this is exactly how it would

913
02:00:42,880 --> 02:00:49,480
have been calculated.
>> Okay.

914
02:00:45,920 --> 02:00:49,480
» All right. Thank you.

915
02:00:55,280 --> 02:01:01,599
So,
>> so do we are you recommending

916
02:00:59,360 --> 02:01:05,679
that we approve the appeal or deny the
appeal

917
02:01:03,920 --> 02:01:09,639
» because it's an appeal? Those always
those can throw me off sometimes.

918
02:01:10,639 --> 02:01:15,040
» What I would recommend at this point is
to deny the pe the appeal.

919
02:01:14,159 --> 02:01:18,040
» Deny the appeal.
>> Yes.

920
02:01:20,080 --> 02:01:26,159
And you just sounds like you've been
talking to him. You feel like the

921
02:01:23,520 --> 02:01:31,119
landowner understands your position on
that.

922
02:01:27,360 --> 02:01:35,920
» I am not 100% certain if the land owner
if if or the property owner if they

923
02:01:33,119 --> 02:01:42,000
understand the process of how it was
arrived. Yes, he did receive green belt

924
02:01:39,599 --> 02:01:47,040
status. So his land value went down
>> down. But then when you recalculate that

925
02:01:45,840 --> 02:01:52,159
and you're going through that
calculation process, the three comps and

926
02:01:50,000 --> 02:01:57,840
they're the same comps, but they start
making different adjustments because the

927
02:01:54,800 --> 02:02:00,719
overall value has changed. So now it's
compensating a little bit more on the

928
02:01:59,599 --> 02:02:05,119
improvement side.
>> Oh, okay. So it just fixed the

929
02:02:03,199 --> 02:02:10,560
» Yep. So, it's going for that an overall
weighted a total overall value and then

930
02:02:08,800 --> 02:02:15,840
it splits that land value out
>> it when we've lowered their valuation.

931
02:02:13,679 --> 02:02:20,560
» It It's probably pretty uncommon.
>> Okay. So, I would

932
02:02:18,400 --> 02:02:23,679
move to deny the appeal.
>> Second.

933
02:02:21,920 --> 02:02:27,760
» Have a motion and a second. Uh, any
discussion?

934
02:02:25,599 --> 02:02:28,960
» See none, please call the role. Johnson,
>> yes.

935
02:02:28,239 --> 02:02:30,080
» Flower Day,
>> yes.

936
02:02:29,360 --> 02:02:33,040
» Schulty,
>> yes.

937
02:02:30,639 --> 02:02:37,040
» Motion carries.
The next item is a public hearing. Motor

938
02:02:34,800 --> 02:02:40,960
vehicle tax exemption applications for
Lincoln Christian Fellowship, Neighbors

939
02:02:39,040 --> 02:02:44,639
United, Women and Community Service
Incorporated, Sisters of Mary, Queen of

940
02:02:43,040 --> 02:02:50,719
Mercy, the Bridge Behavioral Health
Incorporated, and the American Legion.

941
02:02:48,719 --> 02:02:56,679
Are there any members of the public here
wishing to speak on these motor vehicle

942
02:02:52,800 --> 02:02:56,679
tax exemption applications?

943
02:02:57,599 --> 02:03:04,639
Seeing none, uh,
>> you can just close the hearing.

944
02:03:02,800 --> 02:03:08,480
» We'll close the public hearing.
>> So, the next item is item five, the

945
02:03:06,320 --> 02:03:12,159
public hearing action item for the motor
vehicle tax exemption applications.

946
02:03:10,400 --> 02:03:14,400
» Move approval. Move approval of the
motor vehicle tax exemption

947
02:03:13,440 --> 02:03:17,440
applications.
>> Second.

948
02:03:15,840 --> 02:03:19,520
» We have a motion and a second. Please
call the role. Johnson,

949
02:03:18,880 --> 02:03:20,800
» yes.
>> Flower,

950
02:03:20,239 --> 02:03:22,000
» yes.
>> Schulty,

951
02:03:21,520 --> 02:03:26,400
» yes.
>> Motion carries. The next item is public

952
02:03:24,880 --> 02:03:30,000
comment. Members of the public wishing
to speak on items relating to county

953
02:03:27,920 --> 02:03:34,560
board of equalization business not on
the agenda may do so at this time. Are

954
02:03:32,800 --> 02:03:38,199
there any members of the public wishing
to make comment?

955
02:03:39,520 --> 02:03:47,760
None. We can our next agenda item. Next
item is adjournment.

956
02:03:44,719 --> 02:03:50,800
» Approval or move to adjourn. Second.
>> We have a motion and a second. Please

957
02:03:49,199 --> 02:03:51,920
call the role. Flower.
>> Yes.

958
02:03:51,360 --> 02:03:52,960
» Shulty.
>> Yeah.

959
02:03:52,400 --> 02:03:56,480
» Johnson.
>> Yes. Motion carries.