1 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:08,200 public to see. 2 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:13,400 » Yeah. 3 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:23,279 » Cool. So, I think we're all here and I heard the meeting is ready to start. So, 4 00:00:19,039 --> 00:00:28,480 I think we are ready to start. So I would like to call our regular meeting 5 00:00:25,519 --> 00:00:33,040 for November 3rd order and acknowledge that we're gathered on the traditional 6 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:38,079 and unseated territory of the KC map and semi first nations. We have an agenda in 7 00:00:36,160 --> 00:00:42,879 front of us and I believe we need to make a change to that agenda. So I'm 8 00:00:40,239 --> 00:00:50,399 going to first just get it on the floor. So I'll move the U agenda and get a 9 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:58,640 seconded by Alrech that I need to >> Yes. uh through the chair to council. Um 10 00:00:53,760 --> 00:01:03,359 I was aware of um a mistake with um giving out a template for our October 11 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:07,600 20th minutes. It's not the actual minutes that is in your package. So I'd 12 00:01:04,879 --> 00:01:12,479 like to have that uh removed from consideration of when adopting amend 13 00:01:09,680 --> 00:01:18,400 amendments. And councelor Mack also identified that there was a mistake made 14 00:01:14,799 --> 00:01:23,280 in the se October 27th special minutes. So I'd also like to have those removed 15 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:29,200 from consideration adoption. Those will come forward in the proper next. 16 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:36,400 » So we'll I'll move that we amend section uh so can I do that to agenda? So I will 17 00:01:32,560 --> 00:01:43,520 amend move that we amend item 6A and strike 6 A1 [clears throat] 18 00:01:39,920 --> 00:01:48,640 city. So it's 6 A. It's actually >> Oh, sorry. 6A2. 19 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:55,040 » 6 A1. You're correct. The regular meeting is October 20th and just um um 20 00:01:51,759 --> 00:01:58,960 three or the October 27th special meeting. 21 00:01:55,600 --> 00:02:05,280 » Sure. So um that we strike 6A1 and that we amend item uh 6 A3 Tuesday to say 22 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:12,400 that the minutes of the special meeting held on October 20th sorry October 14th 23 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:17,360 and October 20th 2025 adopted Mr. So that's my proposed amendment second by 24 00:02:14,640 --> 00:02:21,680 council M. Further discussion seeing none on that I'll call a question 25 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:26,319 on the amendment. All those in favor any opposed none opposed. So that's 26 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:30,640 unanimously. So we now have an amended agenda. Is there any other changes? 27 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:34,879 Thank you. Uh any other amendments? 28 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:39,920 Seeing none I'll call the question on the amended agenda. All those in favor? 29 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:45,120 Any opposed? So that's carried unanimous be part of the committee of the poll. 30 00:02:41,920 --> 00:02:49,680 I'll move that the committee of the poll uh commence. Is there a seconder? So 31 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:54,480 seconded by councelor Alrech. Any further discussion? All the questions in 32 00:02:52,239 --> 00:02:59,920 favor? Any opposed? So that's carried unanimously. I'll turn it over to Mr. 33 00:02:56,959 --> 00:03:04,959 Chang and maybe a brief overview of this amendment if you had any 34 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:08,879 uh if there's anybody who would like to speak and provide the benefit of their 35 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:15,840 opinion pass this committee level. Thank you Mr. Mayor. Um so a presentation for 36 00:03:12,239 --> 00:03:20,800 this financial plan amendment was formed um in prior weeks. Uh 37 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:26,720 for this particular financial plan amendment uh it's mostly house items um 38 00:03:24,319 --> 00:03:32,000 such as additional transformation items um that we need to adapt to 39 00:03:30,159 --> 00:03:39,280 throughout the year. They were limited that presentation on state of fire all 40 00:03:36,159 --> 00:03:45,760 fired for the exterior of the building. So there's the be inside that a little 41 00:03:42,799 --> 00:03:49,907 bit more significant. Um but for the most part that pretty much summarizes 42 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:53,680 the items. [clears throat] 43 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:56,720 » Thank you. >> So um is anybody received any 44 00:03:55,680 --> 00:04:00,400 correspondence on this? >> Uh no you worship. 45 00:03:58,159 --> 00:04:05,840 » Thank you. And is there anybody here that would like to speak to the uh 2025 46 00:04:04,319 --> 00:04:11,360 2029 financial plan amendment that's here 47 00:04:09,519 --> 00:04:18,079 and if you are and I'm not seeing that there anybody that is 48 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:22,160 so checking again I'm not seeing any so I think there's probably nobody here 49 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:26,840 that wants to provide us input on this is there any further discussion council 50 00:04:27,280 --> 00:04:35,360 seeing none then I'll Move that we rise and report. Is there a second council or 51 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:41,680 wallets? All further discussion seem all those in favor. So that's carried. Uh so 52 00:04:39,199 --> 00:04:45,440 that brings us to business arising. So we have a recommendation hearing section 53 00:04:43,759 --> 00:04:52,160 5A. The bylaw cited as financial plan 2025 54 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:56,800 through 2029 bylaw 2025 number 3308 amendment number one 2025 bylaw number 55 00:04:54,800 --> 00:05:01,680 3315. That be right upon final time. Is there a mover? Move by councelor Alrech. 56 00:04:59,280 --> 00:05:05,759 Seconder seconded by councelor White. Further discussion 57 00:05:04,240 --> 00:05:12,240 seeing none question. All those in favor? Is there any opposed? So that's 58 00:05:08,639 --> 00:05:18,639 carried. We're on to our consent agenda. Anybody like to remove any 59 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:23,759 seeing none who would like to move by councelor seconded by Alrech. Further 60 00:05:21,039 --> 00:05:27,840 discussion see the question. All those in favor? 61 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:34,240 So there's none oppose. So that's carried. Uh so now we have the 62 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:37,680 opportunity for a delegation. I guess it's Miss Luck who's coming to present. 63 00:05:36,400 --> 00:05:45,600 » Yeah, it's actually L >> Lucky. Awesome. Thank you so much. 64 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:48,400 » No, thank you. Um Papel and um counselors, thank you for giving 65 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:51,840 me the opportunity. >> And if you want, you're more than 66 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:55,600 welcome to pull up a chair if that's more convenience. 67 00:05:53,600 --> 00:06:01,520 Yes, >> then I don't have to feel so studious. 68 00:05:59,039 --> 00:06:06,720 Um, my name is Carlen Lucky. I'm a new resident here in the city of Langley and 69 00:06:03,840 --> 00:06:13,440 I represent Lucky Life Society. We are here today because our mission is 70 00:06:08,639 --> 00:06:19,120 perfectly aligned with your s strategic goals to integrate a holistic 71 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:24,639 approach to community safety and fostering a thriving healthy community 72 00:06:21,840 --> 00:06:30,800 for all. all residents key themes throughout the city's city of Langley's 73 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:34,880 he why did I put that word in I'm so sorry 74 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:40,080 I can't say it plan um every council meeting addresses high 75 00:06:37,280 --> 00:06:46,560 costs of response the cost of policing emergency housing emergency services 76 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:52,400 reacting to crisises but those crisises all share a common root the cycle of 77 00:06:50,319 --> 00:06:57,600 trauma is continual The generational crisis has touched 78 00:06:54,720 --> 00:07:02,319 families directly or indirectly all throughout this province. We cannot 79 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:08,000 speak of generational trauma in Canada without first acknowledging the profound 80 00:07:05,280 --> 00:07:12,160 and ongoing impact of assimulation behavior and residential schools and the 81 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:17,440 critical need for truth and reconciliation for indigenous families 82 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:23,680 whose wounds run deep within our community and on this very land that we 83 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:28,880 stand on today. Beyond that, consider the foundational trauma experienced by 84 00:07:26,479 --> 00:07:35,199 countless immigrants. Immigrant families over the last 200 85 00:07:31,199 --> 00:07:40,639 years from those interament camps during wartime and the ongoing struggles with 86 00:07:37,919 --> 00:07:45,360 displacement. This historical burden echoes in our homes today. And the mere 87 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:51,360 fact that we had more deaths from substance abuse during the pandemic than 88 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:56,400 the pandemic itself is a loud and clear message of our provin province's mental 89 00:07:54,240 --> 00:08:02,400 health state. Lucky life's approach is to build on is 90 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:08,560 built on the wisdom that was passed on to me by the Haida nation. Our community 91 00:08:05,599 --> 00:08:13,440 is as strong as our weakest member. If we offer a helping hand and lift them 92 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:19,199 up, we will all be strong and we will all benefit. This preventative approach 93 00:08:16,319 --> 00:08:26,080 is the priority at in your strategic plan and forms the core of our legacy 94 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:31,680 blueprint program. Our legacy blueprint program embodies this principle as a 95 00:08:28,479 --> 00:08:36,880 traumainformed data generating program. It specifically equips parents and 96 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:42,080 caregivers right here in Langley with the psychological tools to interrupt 97 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:48,240 cycles of instability and critical relationship concerns. This program is 98 00:08:45,279 --> 00:08:54,800 designed to ensure it generates vital hyper local data for from participants 99 00:08:51,600 --> 00:09:00,800 which Lucky Life Society processes and translates into actual actionable 100 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:07,600 insights for collaborating collaborative planning. 101 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:12,959 This distinct service delivery focuses on upstream solutions directly 102 00:09:10,560 --> 00:09:18,720 supporting the city's goal of proactive rather than reactive community 103 00:09:14,959 --> 00:09:24,480 management counselors. Our program is generating metrics based on the 104 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:31,600 Icelantic uh preventative model which is um uh endorsed by the federal government 105 00:09:27,839 --> 00:09:37,839 which shows that 82% of all participants report a clinical significant increase 106 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:43,760 in household stability and reduces um reliance on crisis intervention 107 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:48,880 services within six months. This data coupled with Lucky Life's on the ground 108 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:54,240 expertise and direct engagement with families is the missing piece required 109 00:09:51,440 --> 00:09:59,760 to write a truly effective unified community safety plan. If we take this 110 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:05,440 proactive approach today, the large problems that will undoubtedly arrive 111 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:10,000 with the sky train route will not be ours. 112 00:10:07,519 --> 00:10:15,680 By addressing these challenges through datainformed strategies, we safeguard 113 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:21,279 taxpayer dollars and create a more predictable, resilient environment for 114 00:10:17,839 --> 00:10:28,240 local businesses directly supporting the city's economic well-being. We are not 115 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:34,880 asking for money today. We are only um um requesting or proposing a formal 116 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:40,160 strategic partnership. Our goal is to leverage our data and our strategy to 117 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:45,040 build a unified community plan in collaboration with city planning, 118 00:10:42,079 --> 00:10:51,120 community service staff, and engaging business partners. Lucky Life's role is 119 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:55,519 pivotal by creating a direct from community insights, an effective 120 00:10:54,000 --> 00:11:02,160 traumainformed intervention meth methodology that forms 121 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:07,839 the foundation of a proactive plan. This collaborative ma model is precisely the 122 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:14,480 integrated approach identified in your plan for effective service delivery. We 123 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:19,519 get to make the choices now that will create and ensure community legacy 124 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:25,040 continues in the city of Langley. Investing in preventative prevention 125 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:29,600 saves dollars and strengthen lives. Lucky Life Society is committed to the 126 00:11:27,279 --> 00:11:30,160 collection and application of this vital da d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d 127 00:11:30,079 --> 00:11:35,839 d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d da and framework to help you build the 128 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:41,040 strongest possible safety net for the city of Langley. Our direct request is 129 00:11:38,959 --> 00:11:45,920 that council directs a member of the city planning and invites community 130 00:11:43,519 --> 00:11:50,560 service staff to meet with us and formally establish a scope of 131 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:55,600 deliverables that for this community plan. Lucky Life has already requested 132 00:11:53,600 --> 00:12:01,519 that the township of Langley and the RCMP agree to meet with us for this this 133 00:11:59,519 --> 00:12:06,399 purpose. We intend to take action ensuring that 134 00:12:04,079 --> 00:12:11,120 the plan integrates shared data, proactive planning, and our proven 135 00:12:08,399 --> 00:12:17,680 traumainformed service delivery with all the relevant city and business partners 136 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:23,200 within the area with Lucky Light recognized as an essential active 137 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:27,839 contributor to its success. Thank you for your leadership and thank you for 138 00:12:25,680 --> 00:12:32,480 committing to a safer, more inclusive Langley and for the legacy we will leave 139 00:12:30,560 --> 00:12:35,440 behind us. Thank you. >> Uh thank you so much for your 140 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:38,560 presentation. I want to see if there's any questions council uh councelor 141 00:12:37,680 --> 00:12:43,279 Wallace. >> Um thank you so much for attending today 142 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:49,279 and all the advocacy work you're doing. It's really um important. Trauma 143 00:12:45,680 --> 00:12:55,440 informed practice um is very important. I just um wanted to maybe say is there a 144 00:12:52,639 --> 00:13:01,120 way that we could encourage a meeting with um our social planner of initiative 145 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:05,120 uh strategic initiatives um Kay who's working a lot with mapping and data uh 146 00:13:03,680 --> 00:13:10,880 to see if that you could meet with her and share what you're doing um the lucky 147 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:15,040 life society and I think you'll you'll see that we're on on the the same page 148 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:18,560 and moving forward. >> Yeah. I mean I don't think we need a 149 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:24,959 motion but motions are good. So if you wanted to do that, you could move that 150 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:29,920 the council um request that be McKay Beno meet with 151 00:13:26,959 --> 00:13:34,829 » um the love lead society. >> If I can move that. 152 00:13:31,519 --> 00:13:38,800 » Sure. So seconded by councelor Mac [clears throat] and is there any 153 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:42,800 discussion on that? Seeing any follow question on that all 154 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:46,480 in favor? It's unanimous but there's still 155 00:13:44,480 --> 00:13:49,200 opportunity for for questions on this too. 156 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:54,720 » Yeah. I I just uh I really appreciate your work, right? It takes a lot and uh 157 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:59,839 it's very emotional work. Um you know, especially when you talk about um the 158 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:05,360 amount of overdoses that we're facing and the ongoing struggle with trying to 159 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:10,079 find um you know, adequate resources helping people struggling in in a lot of 160 00:14:08,079 --> 00:14:14,320 different areas. So, it takes a lot of courage to be here, but I I really feel 161 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:19,440 that you will be impressed in the work that Langley City and us as a council 162 00:14:16,560 --> 00:14:22,079 are doing in in in line with what you're doing. 163 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:26,720 » Thank you, >> uh, Council White. 164 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:29,519 » Thank you, Mayor Ball. Um, yeah, I just wanted to thank you for your 165 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:34,240 presentation. Uh, welcome to the community. I How long 166 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:38,480 have you been in the community now? >> We moved here August 1st. 167 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:39,760 » Oh, moved here August 1. So impress me. >> Yeah. 168 00:14:38,959 --> 00:14:46,160 » Welcome [laughter] uh welcome to our community and uh I 169 00:14:42,959 --> 00:14:51,920 thank you for uh just your passion and your commitment to uh providing the kind 170 00:14:49,199 --> 00:14:57,760 of services and trauma informed services that you're 171 00:14:53,760 --> 00:15:02,880 uh uh providing. Um, as with Councelor Wallace's comments, I think you'll find 172 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:09,519 a uh we're we're very much on the same page and we're trying to work 173 00:15:04,399 --> 00:15:18,480 proactively and you'll find a host of um service providers that uh will be open 174 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:23,680 to working with you as well. So, uh it's very embracing community that way. So, 175 00:15:20,959 --> 00:15:26,720 thank you. >> Thank you very much. I just wanted to 176 00:15:25,199 --> 00:15:30,800 say thank you so much for coming and for presenting. Um also welcome to the 177 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:36,160 community and I look forward to building you a bit more of a relationship um as 178 00:15:33,519 --> 00:15:41,600 time goes on. Um and just I wanted to reinforce um again you strategic 179 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:45,040 partnerships that we can make um are so valuable. So thank you for coming and 180 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:48,399 introducing yourself and I look forward to the further discussions. Excellent. 181 00:15:47,519 --> 00:15:53,759 Thank you. >> Uh any other questions or comments? 182 00:15:51,759 --> 00:15:57,680 So I I think again a lot of good things have been said and I really appreciate 183 00:15:56,000 --> 00:16:02,639 the time you took to come and speak with us and uh forward to further dialogue. 184 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:04,880 » Excellent. I look forward to it also. Thank you so much 185 00:16:03,519 --> 00:16:09,440 » and you're more than welcome to stay or you're more than welcome to get on with 186 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:14,720 your evening whatever you >> Thank you. 187 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:18,720 » So with that uh we'll move on to item 98. 188 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:24,800 So that is our next regularly scheduled meetings or November 17th followed by 189 00:16:20,959 --> 00:16:30,560 December 1st. Uh is there any council advisory updates? Um of which we don't 190 00:16:27,519 --> 00:16:36,000 receive minutes uh that you defended the counselor walls. So, if I may, it's not 191 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:42,240 a meeting I attended, but I know with the strategic um goals that the library 192 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:46,079 board is doing, which I do sit on, um they're working with, you know, climate 193 00:16:43,839 --> 00:16:50,560 action. Um >> so, I just wanted to mention, and it's 194 00:16:47,759 --> 00:16:56,160 very short notice, but uh an energy savings workshop will be held um in the 195 00:16:53,440 --> 00:17:01,279 library downstairs, Tuesday, November 4th from 6:00 to 7:30. Yeah. Reducing 196 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:05,919 energy consumption can result in noticeable changes to com home comfort, 197 00:17:03,759 --> 00:17:09,760 efficiency, and affordability. From learning how to read energy bills and 198 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:14,240 discovering energy saving measures and install installation techniques, this 199 00:17:12,319 --> 00:17:20,640 workshop empowers participants by offering basic energy efficiency and 200 00:17:17,039 --> 00:17:26,160 home safety education. Um this workshop is presented by empower me um drop drop 201 00:17:24,079 --> 00:17:30,559 in program for all ages. So, I just wanted that align with our, you know, 202 00:17:28,319 --> 00:17:35,200 our climate action and really proud that they have that the staff is taking on 203 00:17:32,799 --> 00:17:40,960 that climate action. >> Yeah. Thank you for that FBRL update. 204 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:45,840 Uh, is there any others? Seeing none, then we'll go over to item 205 00:17:43,039 --> 00:17:50,240 10 A. So, we do have a recommendation that uh the board is for the report and 206 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:54,240 then we can see if there's any questions on the report and then go from there. So 207 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:59,600 the recommendation is that the report dated October 20th, 2025, 208 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:05,520 title proposed pharmacy separation regulation amendment for 2033 209 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:10,160 Avenue be received for information. Is there a second? Move by councelor 210 00:18:07,679 --> 00:18:15,039 Wallace, seconded by councelor Alrech. Uh is there any questions or comments on 211 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:18,880 the report? Councelor M. 212 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:23,039 » Thank you. I think that um I just want to clarify because I know that I 213 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:27,760 oftentimes take a hard line in terms of OCP adherence and I do believe that we 214 00:18:25,360 --> 00:18:31,120 should be upholding our policies. Um so that's the general stance that I 215 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:36,720 typically come from when assessing this. However, in looking at the recommended 216 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:41,280 deviation, it is to permit a pharmacy to um be placed at the same place as a 217 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:45,679 doctor's office. So I felt that in terms of use, this makes a lot of sense. Um so 218 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:48,799 I am in support of it. I just wanted to clarify. 219 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:52,880 » Thank you. Uh we'll go to councelor Wallace and councelor life. 220 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:59,679 » I'm in total agreeance with councelor Mack when I read uh the report and the 221 00:18:56,160 --> 00:19:03,919 connection um and that one-stop service, not just it wasn't just about the 222 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:08,160 pharmacy. I think it's the collective resources and the things that they'll be 223 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:12,720 doing is really positive. >> Councelor White. 224 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:18,640 » Thank you, Mayor Bahal. Um I would uh agree with both my council colleagues in 225 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:26,080 terms of uh their opinions on this. I think my only question um would be uh 226 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:32,720 directed to Mr. Johansson if I could in terms of how will the city ensure that 227 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:40,559 it remains ancillary um and not eventually develop into a 228 00:19:37,120 --> 00:19:46,320 standalone practice within that unit. Um and so that would be my question. 229 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:51,760 » Yes. To the mayor, councelor White. And um just before before I answer that, um 230 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:55,679 if council does give this first say it goes to public hearing, the applicant 231 00:19:53,600 --> 00:20:01,280 will be there and they can present their proposal and answer detailed questions 232 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:05,760 as well. But on the staff perspective, um if [clears throat] if it is I mean 233 00:20:03,360 --> 00:20:10,559 they are permitted to have that right now. uh what they what they need to do 234 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:14,320 in order to enact that uh is bring in that building permit. Of course, as part 235 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:18,799 of that building permit, if the pharmacy is approved, we will see that on the 236 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:24,400 building plans and the size that we expect that. So, that's one way for us 237 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:29,520 to ensure that their proposed size of the pharmacy, which I believe is 900 238 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:33,840 square feet out 500 square feet. So, it is 239 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:38,400 uh one way of doing it. we can also uh put a their business license as 240 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:40,559 something. >> So yeah, 241 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:44,880 » great. Thank you. >> Thank you. 242 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:50,880 » Any other questions on the report? Uh so just uh I guess a quick one for me 243 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:55,600 for clarification. and you said it was a auxiliary use and um 244 00:20:53,840 --> 00:21:00,720 there would be no way that this would be able to be switched in the future and 245 00:20:58,159 --> 00:21:04,640 this is not going to be like a shop as far as you know this is not like a 246 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:09,520 shopper drug isn't the right example but like a we had a pharmacy that was near 247 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:14,799 there and I won't mention the name but it was adjacent to a doctor's office but 248 00:21:11,360 --> 00:21:19,679 it also very much was a retail operation in your opinion is this that kind of 249 00:21:17,919 --> 00:21:24,400 retail operation or is it sort of something that is actually an auxiliary 250 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:29,520 use and the place and is primarily a medical 251 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:34,000 » uh yes in response to question my understanding and based on the 252 00:21:30,799 --> 00:21:39,440 applicants model staff here Mr. for talent cough can 253 00:21:35,919 --> 00:21:44,240 provide more context if if be and again as some adult presented that public 254 00:21:41,360 --> 00:21:48,320 hearing this gets first and second is that it's part of a family medical 255 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:53,120 practice it's meant to be something that's direct dispense they probably 256 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:59,520 will have some products for sale but it won't be at the same scale as you know 257 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:05,600 or something like that or an independent pharmacy that supports medical practice 258 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:12,559 uh they've got a few of these uh server set up and again it's something 259 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:16,880 that um you know with the we have a a building permit that will come in expect 260 00:22:14,799 --> 00:22:21,720 we'll see uh the drawings and the space that's 261 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,720 constructed 262 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:30,880 um the other aspect is again in terms of the business licenses 263 00:22:27,919 --> 00:22:35,280 the allocation space so 264 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:41,280 we'll be also monitoring So we're confident this is going to be 265 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:46,320 » Thank you so much uh councelor Albert. >> Yeah. Uh thank you. Thank you for this 266 00:22:43,039 --> 00:22:54,559 and and um with the information given and I'm supportive of it. I'm a little 267 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:59,440 leery. So if we could get um say um some information on the current models that 268 00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:05,919 they're running in Siri, you you preface those just so that we can maybe look 269 00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:09,600 into that. And I I don't want the applicant to get their hopes up because 270 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:13,520 if they're not doing what they're portraying or what we're thinking 271 00:23:11,120 --> 00:23:17,840 they're doing, that could be turned down. 272 00:23:15,039 --> 00:23:21,600 » Thank you. Um so just for clarity for anybody who's attending, um it's not an 273 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:26,640 opportunity for anybody attending to speak. It's just for counsel or for 274 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:32,480 staff. Um did you have any follow? >> Yeah. So just coun we'll have them 275 00:23:29,679 --> 00:23:36,720 present their their model, their case. Again, 276 00:23:34,799 --> 00:23:45,960 one thing we're considering again is is on the aspect of our stock right now 277 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:45,960 that they're really there to support. 278 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:52,640 » So, any other questions on the report? See none on the report. I'll see if we 279 00:23:51,039 --> 00:23:57,039 can get councelor James after I'll call a question on the report. All those in 280 00:23:54,799 --> 00:24:01,200 favor receiving the report. All those opposed. That's not opposed. That 281 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:07,520 carries unanimously. We're on to the amendment. So the recommendation is that 282 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:14,159 the bylaw cited as zoning bylaw 1996 number 2100 amendment number 221 202.5 283 00:24:11,279 --> 00:24:19,760 number 3322 be read a first and second time is a secondary. So move by 284 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:25,520 councelor M by council. Any further discussion on bylaw? 285 00:24:23,679 --> 00:24:30,640 So, I know it's been stated, but just in the bylaw section, you know, uh I was 286 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:36,240 here when we put in the pharmacy distancing because there was a large 287 00:24:33,279 --> 00:24:41,200 amount ofies in our area from more of a retail perspective that was taking away 288 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:44,240 from the active storefront, which I think is something we've been trying to 289 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:49,760 really promote in our community, engaging active storefronts. Uh for me 290 00:24:47,039 --> 00:24:53,760 with this one, uh confirmation of what we'll hear from the applicant. I'm 291 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:58,559 generally supportive of this if indeed it's an excellent use and knowing where 292 00:24:55,840 --> 00:25:02,720 it's located. It is a current office building that isn't an active retail 293 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:06,559 use. So that gives me comfort with giving this person a second. But I 294 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:10,799 certainly look forward to to getting more because uh you know spot zoning is 295 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:14,320 something I know we've done and for good reasons for certain things but when we 296 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:20,000 do it I just want to be really certain uh that there's a clear for me that 297 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:22,960 there's a clear um rationale for that. those uh seeing I don't think there's 298 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:27,279 any other comments I'll call the question on first and second all those 299 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:32,640 in favor there any opposed there's none opposed so that's carried unanimously we 300 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:43,919 are on to a few things here for uh community plan 301 00:25:39,120 --> 00:25:49,360 uh bylaw number 3319 public consultation requirements so this is for 302 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:57,520 consideration of the proposed use building bylaw and this sets out the um 303 00:25:54,240 --> 00:26:01,760 public consultation or or a stakeholder consultation process. I don't 304 00:25:59,679 --> 00:26:07,600 necessarily want to read all of this, but if um I'm happy to if somebody wants 305 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:13,600 to, but for just the recommendations and 10B, not the actual zoning bylaw. Um I'd 306 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:18,320 love to move it as it's presented here in our agenda. Is there a seconder 307 00:26:15,919 --> 00:26:21,760 seconded by councelor Alrech? Is there any discussion on that consultation 308 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:26,720 side? Please go ahead. >> Thank you. I know that um a lot of this 309 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:30,880 is really the tenants in section 475 of the local government act. But what I do 310 00:26:28,559 --> 00:26:34,559 hear from our indigenous partners is that they feel that they get 311 00:26:32,559 --> 00:26:38,799 consultation kind of late in the game at the stage of say first and second 312 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:43,919 readings already being given bylaw. Um, so I just I wanted to flag that uh as we 313 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:48,960 are looking at our policies and our practices, if we could ensure that um 314 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:52,480 they're going to our indigenous partners prior to even consideration of first and 315 00:26:51,360 --> 00:26:56,320 second. I think that that would be a really good way to build relationships 316 00:26:54,320 --> 00:27:03,200 and ensure that they're not getting a three/4er baked potato and said hope you 317 00:26:59,360 --> 00:27:07,919 like potato. Do you like potato? Um that's all to say. 318 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:11,279 » Uh or Mr. Just um thank [clears throat] you 319 00:27:09,360 --> 00:27:18,320 through the mayor councelor. Thank you. Um all of these um agencies for first 320 00:27:15,360 --> 00:27:22,320 nations and agencies we have to them already. Uh but take it. 321 00:27:21,039 --> 00:27:26,320 » Thank you. >> Yeah, I know there's always that early 322 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:32,080 and often work that goes on. Um councelor Wallace. Um, if I may, I I 323 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:38,640 mean, I don't know if it's too late, but um, just for our public, I think it will 324 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:45,200 be important to um, name our the connections that we are going to be be 325 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:49,520 making if if that's the the list of um, because I think it's important that our 326 00:27:47,360 --> 00:27:53,200 our our public knows that the partnerships that we will be engaging, 327 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:56,880 right, in regards to that. >> For sure. I I mean it certainly will be 328 00:27:54,960 --> 00:28:00,159 in the agenda, but uh you're more than welcome to name the folks that are being 329 00:27:59,039 --> 00:28:04,960 consulted here >> and I appreciate that our um indigenous 330 00:28:02,559 --> 00:28:09,520 uh partners are at the top of the list in regards to Ky First Nation, Quantland 331 00:28:07,039 --> 00:28:14,399 First Nation, Matte First Nation, San Miami First Nation, City of Suri, 332 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:18,399 Township of Langley, Metro Vancouver, School District number 35 and Translink. 333 00:28:16,799 --> 00:28:24,080 Thank you for allowing me to do that. >> Yeah, thank you so much. Any further 334 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:27,760 discussion on that section? Cool. See no call question. All those in 335 00:28:25,679 --> 00:28:32,320 favor? Any opposed? So there's none opposed. So that's carried. Now we're on 336 00:28:30,399 --> 00:28:37,279 to the actual bylaw. So you do have the recommendation here uh that the bylaw 337 00:28:34,799 --> 00:28:44,799 cited at city of Langley official community plan bylaw 2021 number 2300 338 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:51,039 amendment um sorry 3200 amendment to 2025 number 319 339 00:28:48,799 --> 00:28:56,000 secondary by councelor white seconded by councelor 340 00:28:52,720 --> 00:29:00,559 any questions on this part seeing one call the question all those 341 00:28:57,279 --> 00:29:04,399 in favor so there's none opposed so that's carried So that brings us to the 342 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:09,840 actual introduction of the new zoning bylaw. Now uh that the bylaw cited at 343 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:15,039 city of Langley zoning bylaw 2025 number 3300 we read it first and second time. 344 00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:20,279 Uh so moved by councelor white seconded by councelor Wallace. Is there 345 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,279 discussion on this? 346 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:27,679 Oh councelor Alrech. If I could, I just I just wanted to thank staff for really 347 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:31,440 putting together a document that really goes into a detailed explanation of what 348 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:37,520 we're doing and how we're moving forward. So, uh I think it's really 349 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:43,039 clear and and concise and provides the public with uh answers to any concerns 350 00:29:40,559 --> 00:29:49,679 that they may have. So, I just want to express my appreciation to staff. 351 00:29:47,039 --> 00:29:54,320 » Any other discussion? So, I'm not seeing any. And uh just so 352 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:57,520 people know, this is the first go at this. We've had a lot of discussion over 353 00:29:55,840 --> 00:30:03,039 the last three years really on the zoning bylaw. Uh and I understand Mr. 354 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:06,559 Johansson that if council does decide to move forward with the final adoption of 355 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:10,240 this after going through the due process, uh there'll be further 356 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:14,720 refinements based on feedback we've heard from council over the last couple 357 00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:19,039 years as well. So, with that, I will call the question. All those in favor? 358 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:23,039 Is there any opposed? So, uh, there's none opposed, so that's carried 359 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:27,360 unanimously. Uh, brings us to the yard waist pilot update, which we have a 360 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:31,760 report in our agenda, and there are two recommendations that I will read and see 361 00:30:29,919 --> 00:30:37,200 if there's over a secondary. That the yard waist pilot project be extended to 362 00:30:34,159 --> 00:30:41,919 November 30th, 2025. that staff be directed to coate the data from the yard 363 00:30:39,679 --> 00:30:47,679 wastist pilot project which ends on October 31st, 2025 and report back to 364 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:52,000 council on potentially incorporating excess yard waste collection into the 365 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:56,320 solid waste organis collection contract on a permanent basis including levels of 366 00:30:54,000 --> 00:31:00,320 service as well as associated costs in a second there. So moved by councelor 367 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:03,440 Solium, seconded by councelor Alrech. Is there discussion on this one? Councelor 368 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:07,919 Wallace >> just [clears throat] that I'm glad to 369 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:12,559 see this moving forward. Um it's I think it's been very popular. I know that 370 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:17,360 we've staff is trying to you know read out the things that uh um with the 371 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:23,840 citizens of Lane that are receiving this. So um just want to thank staff um 372 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:28,080 and uh council for um their dedication and interest in in delivering this 373 00:31:25,919 --> 00:31:31,760 service to our residents. So I look forward to it becoming an ongoing thing. 374 00:31:30,799 --> 00:31:36,919 Thank you. >> Thank you. Uh is there any other 375 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:36,919 discussion councing? 376 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:45,039 Um is there a limit to the amount of during this pilot? Was there any limits 377 00:31:42,559 --> 00:31:51,039 to the amount of uh paper bags in addition to the bin? 378 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:56,799 » Transfer know and for the purpose of the pilot project. 379 00:31:53,279 --> 00:32:01,519 » Perfect. Thank you. Any other questions? So just a question for me. Um, I was 380 00:31:59,039 --> 00:32:07,039 just reading the report here too and it said that we collected is about excess 381 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:12,559 from about 100 to 150 houses per day. How many I guess in a week then are we 382 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:18,320 talking about of the 3,000 plus people that receive this? Is it like 300 that 383 00:32:16,399 --> 00:32:22,640 are getting the extra stuff or is it everybody? Um, as [clears throat] a 384 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:26,559 percentage maybe Mr. Mayor is one of the things we we 385 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:30,960 haven't as we mentioned the report we haven't got the full data because it's 386 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:35,600 strictly speaking as last Friday that we would have completed that first month. 387 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:39,039 » So those kind of that kind of detail I hope for the council was part of the 388 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:43,360 next state. >> I appreciate that. So seeing that I 389 00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:47,279 don't any other Oh councelor white please go ahead. 390 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:52,240 » Thank you mayoral to the mayor. Um, 391 00:32:49,679 --> 00:33:00,159 first thing on the top of my head is uh just to thank staff for the amount of 392 00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:05,279 coordination that's been involved and uh dealing with residents who have I guess 393 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:09,679 a number of questions and concerns through the whole process. And uh 394 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:15,679 whenever something kicks off the first time around, there's always extra 395 00:33:13,039 --> 00:33:25,200 uh concerns and things to be addressed. Um, I do have a question and it it um 396 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:31,440 pertains to the bins themselves and and uh that that relates to I I understand 397 00:33:28,399 --> 00:33:37,919 reading through the documentation and that uh the the bends are sourced uh in 398 00:33:35,679 --> 00:33:44,799 the US and so I'm concerned about growing additional fees that may come 399 00:33:40,159 --> 00:33:51,200 with that tariffs uh exchange rates all those things. Um, are there plans to 400 00:33:47,600 --> 00:34:00,240 address this in the future foreseeable future um to keep our cost 401 00:33:54,799 --> 00:34:07,039 as minimal as possible um for that? So the chair and first to your first point, 402 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:12,480 councelor White, I I'd like to recognize the efforts of a lot of people at city 403 00:34:08,879 --> 00:34:17,919 hall from our communications folks through to our front counter staff have 404 00:34:14,240 --> 00:34:24,159 been taking um phone calls and people at the front counter. So there's been a lot 405 00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:30,320 of effort put in and I think um uh I'm aware of implementation in other 406 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:37,280 municipalities and I think going to a new technology it has been 407 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:41,440 really very smooth. It's not without hasn't been without issues but it hasn't 408 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:46,639 in terms of a new service that actually has been 409 00:34:43,359 --> 00:34:52,240 quite effectively and I do givea credit for that as well. The issue 410 00:34:48,879 --> 00:34:57,599 around the bins or the totes is uh your concern is one of the reason that we've 411 00:34:54,879 --> 00:35:01,760 been working with them. We're trying to make sure that we can cut down on things 412 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:06,720 like shipping cost by incorporating into their larger because they they service 413 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:11,119 other municipalities throughout British Columbia and across Canada. So, we're 414 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:17,040 trying to make sure that the number of bids that we do bring in really are 415 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:22,480 maybe part of a larger shipment that comes in as part of a larger order. You 416 00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:25,920 know, we initially got 7,000 bins in which, you know, you keep in the back of 417 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:29,599 semi trucks. That's not going to be the case as such, but the life 418 00:35:28,774 --> 00:35:34,000 [clears throat] the life of one of these totes should 419 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:40,160 really um extend through the entire length of the contract. So really once 420 00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:44,960 we have this the sizing issue sorted out we really expect that apart from having 421 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:48,920 a small number in reserve that we shouldn't really see this problem 422 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:57,760 any other questions see none I'll call this all those in 423 00:35:55,200 --> 00:36:02,160 favor I can so that's carried unanimously 424 00:35:59,359 --> 00:36:06,800 uh we are on to motion so we have the Fraser Valley Library board appointment 425 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:10,240 so there's what we did last year there. So there's the opportunity to move that. 426 00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:14,720 Also, if anybody wants to do a nomination, vote by ballot, that's an 427 00:36:12,720 --> 00:36:19,119 option as well. Anybody wants that? So I'm not seeing 428 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:22,640 any. So there is the recommendation here. Then I'll just read out that 429 00:36:21,119 --> 00:36:26,560 councelor Rosemary Wallace be appointed to the Fraser Valley Regional Library 430 00:36:24,240 --> 00:36:31,359 Board for 2026 and that councelor Delaney Mack be appointed as a move and 431 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:37,760 second. So moved by councelor White, seconded by councelor. Any discussion? 432 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:40,480 But I see no discussion for this one. So I'll call the question. All those in 433 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:46,079 favor. That's unanimous. Uh same thing for the 434 00:36:43,440 --> 00:36:50,000 next one. There's this caring over from last year. If people would like to do a 435 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:55,119 nomination process, we can do that as well. 436 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:58,880 So nobody wants that. So we have the recommendation here that councelor 437 00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:03,440 Paulre be appointed to the Metro Vancouver board of directors for 2026. 438 00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:07,599 that councelor Rosemary Wallace be appointed as the alternate. Is there a 439 00:37:05,359 --> 00:37:12,160 second? So moved by councelor Solium, seconded by councelor White. Is there 440 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:18,320 any discussion? >> Thank you. 441 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:22,000 Um on April 7th, our CEO Francis Cham informed the members of council um and 442 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:25,599 the public that a legal opinion determined that council had to be 443 00:37:23,839 --> 00:37:29,440 operating in contraction of the local government act because it was dually 444 00:37:27,599 --> 00:37:33,839 held the venture bank position as well as his township appointing staffing 445 00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:39,760 position. As I understand um it communicated operated in this role with 446 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:44,480 the um the existing prevention. My understanding is for two years prior to 447 00:37:41,599 --> 00:37:50,079 this determination just based upon his employment and when he was appointed by 448 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:54,720 council um Mr. Chung also informed council at this meeting um as well as 449 00:37:52,079 --> 00:38:00,160 the public that the taxpayer paid for the legal costs associated with the 450 00:37:56,480 --> 00:38:04,880 situation. Uh we have seen the cost impacts from um the cost distributions 451 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:09,920 of the Northshore wastewater treatment facility. 452 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:15,440 Councelor Alrech in conqu voted to distribute the costs that Lang 453 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:19,359 City residents are shouldering now. >> Yes. So is there a point of order there? 454 00:38:18,079 --> 00:38:23,440 What's this got to do with >> this is with regards to my 455 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:26,079 determinational appointment? So it's related. So I'll make my determination. 456 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:32,000 » Okay. >> Thank you. Um so um that city residents 457 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:37,760 will be shouldering for the next 15year amortization period. Um, and this is a 458 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:43,119 courtesy that uh other municipally elective vehicles did not extend to the 459 00:38:40,079 --> 00:38:47,599 Langley or to Langley City. Um, when the Anesus Island wastewater treatment 460 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:52,560 facility was constructed uh over and above these cost impacts um the happy 461 00:38:50,720 --> 00:38:56,480 children by Langley City residents, counceloract was voting and advocating 462 00:38:54,720 --> 00:39:01,920 for a much higher cost distribution percentage. So for me um I have a lot of 463 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:07,520 concerns. I have unanswered questions regarding Mr. CH's report on April 7th. 464 00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:11,680 Um, as well, I have concerns regarding the distri the decision to distribute 465 00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:16,560 costs for the Northshore wastewater treatment facility. Um, so I will not be 466 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:23,760 supporting uh councelor Alra's uh appointment to the Metro Vancouver uh 467 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:29,280 board. I did um on the April 7th meeting um attempt to nominate numerous other 468 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:33,280 members of council um which was not supported by the council majority. So I 469 00:39:31,359 --> 00:39:37,920 don't wish to waste everybody's time by going through the same repetitive 470 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:43,440 process. Um so I I do feel that I'm left at a position where um I I simply have 471 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:48,240 to vote for the appointment. >> Thank you. Um was there any feedback you 472 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:52,640 have >> um to the mayor? Um the only feedback 473 00:39:50,640 --> 00:40:00,400 that would happen is that we receive a letter uh from the Metro Vancouver uh 474 00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:05,359 actually township mayor reminding us of this situation and consequently as a 475 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:11,119 municipality we sought legal advice in terms how to deal with this issue. So it 476 00:40:07,839 --> 00:40:16,560 is fair and appropriate for the city to pay for the legal advice to address this 477 00:40:13,839 --> 00:40:21,280 issue appropriately and fairly. Thank you. And so I'll add myself to the 478 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:26,720 speaking list. I think that uh they're very supportive of the decisions that 479 00:40:24,079 --> 00:40:32,560 councelor Albert has made on behalf of this council and so I believe he's 480 00:40:29,119 --> 00:40:36,880 represented our views or as a council on that committee. I know the decisions on 481 00:40:35,119 --> 00:40:41,200 the Northshore wastewater treatment plan was a very difficult one and certainly 482 00:40:39,119 --> 00:40:46,240 the majority of people on the Metro Vancouver board landed at this 483 00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:50,880 discussion and I think that speaks to uh councelor Alrech being aligned with 484 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:56,400 majority opinion given the difficult nature of how we tackle these regional 485 00:40:53,599 --> 00:41:00,880 issues. So, I I really commend him for the effort and work um that he did 486 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:04,960 representing our city on that board and making that difficult decision on how we 487 00:41:02,720 --> 00:41:08,800 balance uh both the Northshore wastewater treatment with the rest of 488 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:13,520 the region is probably a position I would have taken if I was in the same 489 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:18,240 shoes as him. So, certainly very supportive of his work um on the board. 490 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:22,800 I think councelor Wallace >> um I'm not going to reiterate about the 491 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:28,880 north uh water waste treatment plant. Um it's been talked about several times um 492 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:33,280 why we reached where we did but I'm just going to speak in regards to my 493 00:41:30,400 --> 00:41:40,160 colleague and I stepped in um and when councelor Albbrrook had to step down and 494 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:45,359 um he informed me and shared his knowledge as he always does. I look up 495 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:51,040 to him in his responsibilities in representing um the city of Wangley on 496 00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:54,720 metro. I feel very um grateful that he is there. he is on the governance. I 497 00:41:52,720 --> 00:42:00,160 know that is really important to them to him and he is on that. I just want to 498 00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:06,079 say that uh the amount of um dedication and work and uh reading that goes into 499 00:42:03,839 --> 00:42:12,800 what we do on Metro Vancouver is a lot and that the relationships that we form 500 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:18,560 um with other um members uh is is very important and I I really respect um the 501 00:42:16,240 --> 00:42:23,200 work that uh councelor Albrech has done on Metro Vancouver and brings back to 502 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:26,640 the city. Well, seeing nothing further, uh, 503 00:42:25,119 --> 00:42:31,119 councelor Albright, sorry, go ahead. >> Yeah, I just I just want to touch on on 504 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:36,800 one thing. When we're when we're dealing with uh regional services, especially in 505 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:42,800 Metro Vancouver, it's extremely important to develop relationships, 506 00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:50,160 nurture relationships, and build those. Um, that's a challenge in some in some 507 00:42:45,839 --> 00:42:54,880 regards. Uh and and we have in Metro Vancouver five sewage treatment 508 00:42:53,119 --> 00:43:01,359 facilities. Every one of them requires upgrades. 509 00:42:58,319 --> 00:43:07,839 Every one of them is not seismically uh acceptable. 510 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:13,280 Every one of them is not uh floodproof because of climate change. So each and 511 00:43:10,720 --> 00:43:19,280 every one of these wastewater facilities is going to require 512 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:25,040 significant upgrades. We're talking multibillion dollar delves. So if we 513 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:29,440 don't come to the table and share the burden and start having those 514 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:35,920 conversations about how we share those costs as a region and as a population, 515 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:41,280 we're going to be in real trouble. So anyways, um I'm proud of the work I do. 516 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:46,319 Uh, I'm proud of what I bring to, uh, Metro Vancouver. Uh, I'm proud to 517 00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:51,280 represent the city. I will always do what's best for the city and I will 518 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:56,800 continue to do so despite other people's feelings. So, thank you all and I 519 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:59,680 appreciate the support. >> So, I'm not seeing any other questions 520 00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:03,520 or comments. I'll call the question on that. All those in favor? Any opposed? 521 00:44:02,079 --> 00:44:08,640 So, councelor Maxost. So, that's carried. Uh, we are on to the next 522 00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:12,400 motion which is for councelor Max. Over to you. 523 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:17,440 » Thank you, Georgia. Um, so this motion reads annual cost of consulting 524 00:44:14,319 --> 00:44:21,920 contracts in the city. Um, I can read it out. Um, it reads that council direct 525 00:44:20,079 --> 00:44:25,920 staff to present council with a detailed breakdown of all consulting contracts 526 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:31,760 and their purpose, including utilization by department 2023, 2024, and 2025 year 527 00:44:29,359 --> 00:44:35,359 to date. and that council directs staff to present council with a detailed 528 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:39,040 breakdown of all anticipated consulting expenditures and their purpose, 529 00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:44,160 including anticipated expenditures by department included in the 2026 530 00:44:41,359 --> 00:44:48,000 financial plan. And that council direct staff present this information at a 531 00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:52,000 regular meeting of council prior to the regular meeting of council for first and 532 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:57,680 second reading of the 2026 financial plan will be considered. 533 00:44:54,319 --> 00:45:02,720 » Is there a second? So, I'm not seeing any one seconding 534 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:06,160 this. Uh, so the next one, um, did you still 535 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:09,839 want to move forward with that given that it's been handled? 536 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:13,520 » Uh, no, but maybe I don't know if I should just clarify like the process 537 00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:18,079 just because I did I just wanted to say I messaged staff before submitting this 538 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:23,440 on the 18th and then was told that the waste extension puppy or the waste pilot 539 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:27,119 contract would not be extended. Um, which is why I submitted this motion. 540 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:29,440 » Okay. So I can withdraw but >> okay just wanted to clarify. 541 00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:35,680 » Perfect. >> So we are withdrawing that. Thank you so 542 00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:40,160 much. Uh so clad a sorry that came out wrong. 12 a clad. 543 00:45:37,599 --> 00:45:43,440 » Okay. So um I do have a couple amendments that have been provided by 544 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:48,119 the corporate officer but um I guess I'll just um 545 00:45:49,119 --> 00:45:55,920 so the title is grass restoration and the shaper beetle. Um maybe I'll see if 546 00:45:54,079 --> 00:45:59,040 I get a second prior to >> Yeah, I'll second it. 547 00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:04,400 » Um and then I do immediately have a recommendation before potentially 548 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:10,079 speaking to uh the original if I can get um a seconder for that. Um and the 549 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:12,640 recommendation um is just to change the wording. 550 00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:16,160 » Yeah. So sorry, just for clarity, uh we moved and seconded the original motion 551 00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:19,440 here, right? And now you're putting forward an amendment. 552 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:23,680 » Yeah, exactly. Um the corporate officer pro provided me some wording that she 553 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:28,160 wanted me to replace. um just to adhere to best practices um and we didn't have 554 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:34,800 time to coordinate that prior to um sitting to be. So the the um it would be 555 00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:41,200 moved to have the motion uh reflect the language whereas city maintained grass 556 00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:46,960 across the community has been decimated by raccoons and crows on the hunt for 557 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:51,680 shape shaper beetle grubs. And whereas several residents have expressed a 558 00:46:49,359 --> 00:46:56,400 concern to a council or member of council over the extended period of time 559 00:46:54,240 --> 00:47:00,720 that grass has been in disarray and whereas there are ways to mitigate the 560 00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:03,599 impact of the shaper be and then as read. 561 00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:08,560 » Okay written sorry >> I'll second that. So uh any discussion 562 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:12,800 on the amendment and then we can go back to like so I would unless people have a 563 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:16,560 problem with the wording we'll talk about that if it's just a discussion on 564 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:21,520 the actual amended thing then we'll go back to that. So just on is there any 565 00:47:18,319 --> 00:47:25,839 wording questions or dialogue seeing and I'll call a question on the 566 00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:29,680 amendments. So all in favor is there any opposed? So there's none opposed. I 567 00:47:28,240 --> 00:47:34,160 don't I think that was in favor of the amendments. Uh so now we're on to the 568 00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:37,720 main motion. Get out my timer. 569 00:47:55,760 --> 00:48:04,640 All right. So, um, just going to try to So, brass restoration and the Schaffer 570 00:48:02,319 --> 00:48:08,880 Beetle. So, I'm trying to figure this out. Okay. 571 00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:12,480 So, in case I mean, I presume that other members of council are familiar with the 572 00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:17,680 Shaper Beetle. Generally speaking, you've probably seen it. However, uh we 573 00:48:14,720 --> 00:48:21,200 are seeing the impacts of the European shaver beetle. Um they're an invasive 574 00:48:19,839 --> 00:48:27,119 species and they're problematic specifically because they're um they lay 575 00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:32,880 eggs in the roots um and soil of grass and then ultimately they hatch into 576 00:48:29,839 --> 00:48:36,559 larae which eats um they eat the uh roots of the grass. 577 00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:41,920 got a little photo there to show the hug. 578 00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:45,280 Um, insult to injury is added, so to speak, because then you have raccoons 579 00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:49,280 that come that tear up the grass because they're trying to get to the food 580 00:48:46,559 --> 00:48:54,079 source. So, once the grass is turned over, obviously, it's unsightly, it's 581 00:48:51,440 --> 00:49:03,319 messy, and then further um the crows come and fling fling around soil um 582 00:48:59,359 --> 00:49:03,319 and create additional mess. 583 00:49:03,359 --> 00:49:08,720 How did this come to be and come to my attention? I've seen it around the 584 00:49:06,240 --> 00:49:13,040 community, but I also had um a specifically a resident and met for um 585 00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:18,000 additional residents mention or ask me to come and go for a walk um with them 586 00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:22,079 and they showed me um the state of some of the medians and some of the city 587 00:49:19,839 --> 00:49:26,079 maintained grass um and expressed to me that they've been in the state for a 588 00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:32,400 number of months. Um so I just have some photos to um show council uh colleagues 589 00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:40,880 generally what I was seeing. So you can see obviously here 590 00:49:36,240 --> 00:49:44,880 see there's a a crow that I caught um here you see just I mean obviously 591 00:49:43,359 --> 00:49:49,680 like I have this this street of the year here in 96. Um I think it's important 592 00:49:47,599 --> 00:49:54,400 that we have publicity pride. We're maintaining to the best of our ability 593 00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:57,680 and then um if we do note um issues as counselors that we bring those forward 594 00:49:55,920 --> 00:50:01,920 to look at whether or not we're adequately resourcing our departments 595 00:49:59,839 --> 00:50:06,720 and if there's any other strategies that uh we should be considering. 596 00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:12,160 So then getting to um the point of this motion, um I think that it is important 597 00:50:09,599 --> 00:50:16,800 and prudent that council requests staff to look at mitigating measures that are 598 00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:23,119 currently being implemented um as well as further measures that we can explore. 599 00:50:19,599 --> 00:50:27,839 Um from there, look at um capital costs if necessary as well as resourcing um 600 00:50:25,599 --> 00:50:31,440 and specifically capital costs um to replace the patches of grass that we're 601 00:50:29,359 --> 00:50:35,440 seeing right now that are damaged. Um, and then I guess in closing, because 602 00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:39,280 there might be a capital cost, um, I think it's important that we have the 603 00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:43,280 these um, this information um, and this presentation prior to consideration of 604 00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:47,520 the 2026 financial plan bylaw so we can look at potential amendments. 605 00:50:46,720 --> 00:50:53,280 » Thank you. >> Um, and then I'll just stop this pan 606 00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:56,000 there if there's any comments. So, uh, councelor Walls, 607 00:50:54,640 --> 00:51:00,079 » um, thank you for bringing that to our attention. I'm sure we've all seen the 608 00:50:58,240 --> 00:51:03,839 shaper bug and what it's been doing to our community and it's actually been 609 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:09,839 around for quite a long time. It hasn't just been the last couple of years. Um 610 00:51:07,359 --> 00:51:15,440 if I know that Metro Vancouver through Diamond Head Consulting has done an 611 00:51:12,079 --> 00:51:20,720 extensive report um in invasive species coming up with a lot of deliver 612 00:51:17,200 --> 00:51:25,920 deliverables in ways that we can um approach um 613 00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:30,240 say tackling it because I see the crows and raccoons are already doing that. 614 00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:36,079 That's the natural thing to do. I know that it's a nuisance. Um, I want to just 615 00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:40,400 uh commend this the city in regards to um looking at measures when it comes to 616 00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:44,400 planting and and and doing different things on boulevards rather than 617 00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:48,880 planting grass. And a perfect example is the plants that they put down on the 618 00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:54,640 oneway and around the corner on 206. And that is maybe an avenue that we um 619 00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:59,119 should be looking at. Um also that there are many municipalities that have 620 00:51:56,400 --> 00:52:04,400 already done the work. So in in saying that I think um there won't be a huge uh 621 00:52:01,599 --> 00:52:09,280 capital cost in the sense of like I think the way that we should approach 622 00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:16,160 this and I'm going to ask um I don't know how to do that this is this be um 623 00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:21,520 deferred not referred um to the environmental sustainability committee 624 00:52:18,319 --> 00:52:25,920 because on that committee we have uh um have hired um a sustainability 625 00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:33,200 coordinator that took some time to do that and I think So you made a referral. 626 00:52:30,319 --> 00:52:36,480 » So seconded by councelor Alrech, please continue on. 627 00:52:33,920 --> 00:52:41,040 » And I just and for the the good fortune of uh our committee also with expertise 628 00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:44,880 that are on our committee. We have the uh langly field naturalists that are sit 629 00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:51,119 on that committee and we have the mainly environmental partnerships um who work 630 00:52:47,599 --> 00:52:56,800 extensively with invasive species and um that's one of their their strategic 631 00:52:54,000 --> 00:53:02,960 goals that they do. So, I'm just like um I I'm thank thank uh council Matt for 632 00:52:59,839 --> 00:53:09,200 bringing this forward. Um I just think um in regards to uh it it might take 633 00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:14,079 some time um and looking at and and it's ever changing like in reading Diamond 634 00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:19,040 Consulting's report is that they're coming up with new ways. For instance, 635 00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:23,040 um cutting your grass too short is is something that we we shouldn't be doing. 636 00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:27,119 It should grass should be at a it should be at at higher, right? because they 637 00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:31,839 love it when it's really damp and and then also when it comes to uh water 638 00:53:30,079 --> 00:53:34,960 restrictions, right? There's some because you know between a certain time 639 00:53:33,359 --> 00:53:39,440 you're not allowed to be watering your gu your your yard. So there's that 640 00:53:37,359 --> 00:53:44,079 pieces as well. So there's a lot of different um things that we need to look 641 00:53:42,079 --> 00:53:48,880 at and wondering the expertise of that committee and our sustainability 642 00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:54,480 coordinator and um Mr. to pull it that maybe we can work on a community to move 643 00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:57,119 forward and and um take care of some of this. 644 00:53:54,960 --> 00:54:02,960 » Okay. Um counc >> um just speaking 645 00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:06,559 to council Wallace um to the referral um I'm actually not opposed to the referral 646 00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:10,400 because I think that um as you've spoken that it's a lot of expertise and I think 647 00:54:08,319 --> 00:54:14,960 that resources that we have especially cost effective ones such as our 648 00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:19,359 committees. Um but the only um caveat that I do have is that there are a 649 00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:24,559 couple of that clauses that I think would be undermining maybe which is 650 00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:29,359 specifically um the cost to replace the damaged city brass and the timeline to 651 00:54:27,599 --> 00:54:33,520 restore it to its prior state. I think that might be challenging to fulfill on 652 00:54:31,359 --> 00:54:38,640 a committee level and then additionally to get that information to replace the 653 00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:44,240 damaged city grass um with the financial plan file by off. Um I so I wonder if 654 00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:48,559 maybe um there could be an option to sever out some of the enactment clauses 655 00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:51,760 so that generally the motion and larger mitigating measures which will take time 656 00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:57,680 are >> so sorry please continue interrupt. 657 00:54:55,680 --> 00:55:03,599 » Yeah just just like so that it can be sent away but we still can get the cost 658 00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:07,040 to actually replace the grass um so that it's not you know in the state for an 659 00:55:05,599 --> 00:55:12,240 extended period of time and so we have that budget. So, I'll add myself to the 660 00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:16,720 the speaking order. I haven't spoken yet on this. So, I I'm supportive of the 661 00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:21,280 referral. I'm also mindful that if it's referred, there's clauses in there that 662 00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:25,920 won't be able to be fulfilled. Um, that uh is okay. It'll come back to council 663 00:55:24,079 --> 00:55:29,520 uh once it's done with recommendations from the committee in this motion. So, 664 00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:33,040 you know, for me, you're supporting the referral. I understand we're not going 665 00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:37,200 to get it in time for this budget, but I also don't think this is something that 666 00:55:34,720 --> 00:55:41,119 we can rush through anyhow because there's a ton of work on it and even the 667 00:55:39,119 --> 00:55:45,440 recommendations here may not be the appropriate one. So for me, I'm 668 00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:49,760 supporting the referral for that reason, mind blindfold that, you know, some of 669 00:55:47,359 --> 00:55:53,839 these things may not be able to be action. So I see that council walls has 670 00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:58,000 your hands up and then council >> and then and just speaking to the um 671 00:55:56,240 --> 00:56:02,079 that council direct staff to report back to council regarding the required 672 00:55:59,440 --> 00:56:05,920 capital. Um so I'm understanding like when I just 673 00:56:03,839 --> 00:56:11,440 spoke about doing things you know what if it comes up as a strategic initiative 674 00:56:09,119 --> 00:56:15,119 um with with our committee that let's look at boulevards and look let's look 675 00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:19,839 how we plant boulevards instead of replacing grass. Let's te let's teach 676 00:56:17,839 --> 00:56:22,880 people that you know in your yards what you you could be doing instead of grass. 677 00:56:21,359 --> 00:56:27,280 I think there's a lot of teachings and learnings from this and yes it's a big 678 00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:32,960 concern. It looks horrible but I think um in this in in the sense of 679 00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:38,640 we're trying to mitigate it and I mean to eradicate it would be awesome but it 680 00:56:35,839 --> 00:56:43,040 it'll take some time. So I'm looking at different ways. So going back to our 681 00:56:40,240 --> 00:56:46,480 committee and and seeing what we can do. I think I I I agree. 682 00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:49,920 » Thank you. So, I'll give councelor Matt the last word because I'm not seeing any 683 00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:53,520 other people with questions and then I will call the referral motion. 684 00:56:51,599 --> 00:56:58,160 » Just a question. I know to put forward an amendment to the referral motion. 685 00:56:55,680 --> 00:57:03,960 » Uh, it's a referral. So, you can amend the referral as far as I know. Well, you 686 00:57:00,240 --> 00:57:03,960 can amend the refer 687 00:57:07,359 --> 00:57:14,160 you can amend the referral if there is part of the referral part that you would 688 00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:18,079 want to change. I think that makes it easier. 689 00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:21,079 » Uh, right. 690 00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:27,440 Yes. So, you can amend as part of the referral. 691 00:57:24,319 --> 00:57:34,720 » So, then I would move an amendment. Um is that council um refer to or refer the 692 00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:39,040 first therefore be it resolved clause to the environmental sustainability 693 00:57:36,799 --> 00:57:44,160 committee uh to consider mitigating measures that can be implemented to 694 00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:47,599 assist us in u mitigating the impacts of the shaker wheel. 695 00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:52,480 » Got it. Is there a seconder for that? So seconded by councelor white. Any 696 00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:56,240 discussion on that? So see none the question on the amendment. All those in 697 00:57:53,839 --> 00:58:02,160 favor of the amendment. Uh, all those opposed to the amendment. Uh, so we're 698 00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:06,079 calling the amendment the the >> wanting to leave the Oh, severing. 699 00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:08,640 » We're talking about severing. So, >> are we talking No, I thought it was just 700 00:58:07,599 --> 00:58:11,839 one clause and >> so we're talking about putting one 701 00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:15,440 clause forward and then discussing if you want I mean procedurally it does the 702 00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:19,440 same thing will happen. You'll have the opportunity to with what she's 703 00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:23,280 proposing. you will have the opportunity to refer it and then it will come back 704 00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:28,400 with the main motion still where you can get pricing for first and second 705 00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:33,119 reading. So if you want to go back and get um so basically you're only 706 00:58:31,359 --> 00:58:38,000 referring one of the therefore clauses. So you're not referring the other two 707 00:58:36,079 --> 00:58:42,079 which is that council direct staff to report back council regarding the 708 00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:45,839 required capital and you're not referring to the committee that council 709 00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:52,280 direct staff to present information in a regular council meeting. So it's only 710 00:58:48,559 --> 00:58:52,280 about the strategies. 711 00:58:54,240 --> 00:59:00,880 » Yeah. >> Um so then the amendment basically like 712 00:58:56,960 --> 00:59:05,680 I'm through um worship to council I'm supportive um of having the 713 00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:09,280 sustainability committee look at this. Um but I'm just trying to ensure that 714 00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:13,760 while we look at other mitigating measures like even I've had residents um 715 00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:18,400 mention clover plants. I've had them ref, you know, mention wild fl wild 716 00:59:16,559 --> 00:59:22,799 flowers. So, I think that all of that can be considered. Um, however, I do 717 00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:27,040 think that, you know, for us to leave the grass in its current state, um, for 718 00:59:25,599 --> 00:59:30,480 an extended period of time is problematic. So, I think that this is a 719 00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:33,920 happy middle road, middle of the road. So, the 720 00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:38,319 grass will get fixed and we can look at some of our strategies long term, which 721 00:59:35,599 --> 00:59:42,960 we'll take more time. Uh, >> I'm sorry to speak, but just because I I 722 00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:47,200 feel like I'm visualizing this. I can see the cleanup around the grass, but I 723 00:59:45,119 --> 00:59:50,559 think it defeats the purpose of doing the work with the environmental 724 00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:56,160 sustainability committee because we're trying, as you said earlier, um, one of 725 00:59:52,960 --> 01:00:00,880 your goals is not to um have have extra cost uh with the city. So if we could 726 00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:05,040 alleviate any extra costs in the sense of like you know keeping it tidy and 727 01:00:03,119 --> 01:00:10,400 leaving it at the state I know it looks awful um but we need to we need to do 728 01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:14,880 all of this in the in the right way. So I will Yeah. 729 01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:18,160 » Okay. So for me for Oh councelor James go ahead. 730 01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:23,599 » Yeah. Thank you Mr. Mayor. Um I just wanted to offer up a bit of an 731 01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:28,400 experience. Um, I have experienced Schaefer beetles and they are almost 732 01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:33,200 impossible to get rid of. I don't mean that they are because we were actually 733 01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:38,880 able to do it. It took two full seasons, constant treatments. Um, you can't just 734 01:00:36,799 --> 01:00:41,839 resaw over the the saw that's been decimated because their eggs and 735 01:00:40,480 --> 01:00:46,480 everything are still in there. And unless everyone in the neighborhood 736 01:00:43,760 --> 01:00:51,839 agrees to do the same thing, it doesn't work because they'll just move around 737 01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:56,240 from from lawn to lawn. So, I agree with what's being proposed. I also agree that 738 01:00:54,160 --> 01:01:02,640 the grass looks terrible when they've been attacked by Schaefer beetles, but 739 01:00:58,559 --> 01:01:06,079 it's not an easy remediation. So, my support is going to go to sending it to 740 01:01:04,319 --> 01:01:10,960 the environmental committee because this has to be realistically looked at and 741 01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:15,440 not just this you can't put a band-aid on this. This is a genuine real problem. 742 01:01:13,359 --> 01:01:19,440 So, and it's not just about residing the areas. It's about the whole treatment 743 01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:24,400 capacity. So I just wanted to step in because I have experienced them and it's 744 01:01:21,760 --> 01:01:27,680 uh way more work than a person who hasn't experienced it would think it 745 01:01:25,839 --> 01:01:30,880 was. So thank you for the opportunity to speak. 746 01:01:28,799 --> 01:01:39,040 » Um thank you Mr. Pollock on the amendment. Yeah just to offer um one of 747 01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:43,119 the issues of the boulevards or generally the responsibility properties. 748 01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:48,480 tire because there's been an ongoing issue. I would suggest that staff 749 01:01:45,920 --> 01:01:53,839 can be directed to go in tidy up the areas that are there and 750 01:01:50,960 --> 01:02:00,240 just to as as an interim measure as a worth while that would be for some time 751 01:01:57,440 --> 01:02:06,400 for options to be discussed but I certainly agree I agree with councelor 752 01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:11,040 James and that it's resol the issue when I do 753 01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:15,599 the things with the staff half going on 754 01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:24,559 places to clean up the area that be disturbed and then um we address it 755 01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:28,400 address shortterm matter. So um there's been few folks talking. I'll just add a 756 01:02:26,799 --> 01:02:33,599 thing and I think on the amendment part we probably know where folks are going. 757 01:02:30,960 --> 01:02:38,640 Um, so for me, uh, I'll just say that, um, I want to send the whole thing to 758 01:02:35,599 --> 01:02:43,119 the committee because I don't think, uh, replanting the grass or repairing the 759 01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:47,359 damaged grass is going to lead to it getting damaged again. And I feel like 760 01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:52,079 that might expend capital money that may need to be expended again in the future. 761 01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:56,559 And I don't want to expend capital money needlessly in my opinion. Uh, so that's 762 01:02:55,119 --> 01:03:00,319 why I just want to refer the whole thing. I believe it is a worthy cause. 763 01:02:58,559 --> 01:03:05,760 It's very important. I've certainly seen it, but I just don't want to rush the 764 01:03:02,319 --> 01:03:10,000 determination. So, um, we have like another 765 01:03:08,079 --> 01:03:14,240 opportunity to discuss this. So, >> um, I'm just going to call the question 766 01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:17,440 on the sending the one item which is the amendment. So, all those in favor of the 767 01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:23,839 amendment. >> All those opposed to the amendment. So, 768 01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:27,920 councelor James Wallace, uh, uh, White and myself. So, that's 769 01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:31,520 defeated. So that brings us to the referral and that's just referring the 770 01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:36,640 whole thing. Council me, >> um I think that the only thing that I 771 01:03:33,039 --> 01:03:42,319 would want to um clarify is just that this request that we get a cost estimate 772 01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:47,119 from staff um to look at what the cost of um replacing the grass is. I do think 773 01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:50,880 that it's a short-term measure. However, I do think generally speaking when we 774 01:03:49,119 --> 01:03:56,640 look at resident morale, community pride, those are things that do have 775 01:03:52,960 --> 01:04:00,160 tremendous value that um do relate to the overall presentation of our 776 01:03:58,799 --> 01:04:05,200 community. I think that this has a direct like and a direct impact on 777 01:04:03,119 --> 01:04:09,200 grassroots how people perceive our community and generally the maintenance 778 01:04:06,799 --> 01:04:15,280 that we put in I do think has an impact on overall that community pride and 779 01:04:12,799 --> 01:04:18,960 overall well-being. Um, so again, it's not to, you know, if all of a sudden we 780 01:04:17,599 --> 01:04:22,960 got it back and it's half a million dollars to replace all the grass, I 781 01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:27,760 myself might be hardressed to pursue, but right now we don't really have any 782 01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:34,160 cost estimates to replace some of the most highest damage um highest damage 783 01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:38,559 sites. So I guess that my um my my preference would be that um an 784 01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:43,680 alternative recommendation is put forward um to consider the cost um in a 785 01:04:41,839 --> 01:04:48,319 timely manner or at least a timely manner so they can consider the 2026 786 01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:51,760 financial plan. >> Sorry um we're just talking to the 787 01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:54,559 referral right now. So >> referring the whole thing. Sorry. 788 01:04:53,119 --> 01:04:58,799 » We're referring the whole thing. >> I'm just talking about problems. I see. 789 01:04:56,319 --> 01:05:04,319 » Yeah. Got it. Got it. Okay. So, councelor Albert or somebody else 790 01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:09,039 » councelor Albert. >> Yeah. No, I you know like I again I 791 01:05:07,520 --> 01:05:16,240 appreciate this and I I really appreciate the the attention given to 792 01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:22,079 community pride and you know like making making sure our community looks good. 793 01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:28,000 But I hesitate to provide more food or for a 794 01:05:24,799 --> 01:05:32,400 an invasive species in a location is like perpetuating or making them 795 01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:37,200 stronger. So I'm I'm more inclined to say, you know, like I'm I'm part of that 796 01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:42,319 committee that is being referred to and will be given top attention uh when we 797 01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:46,480 when we come back together. I believe we have a meeting in a couple weeks. So, 798 01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:53,200 uh, this is something that we'll put back as top top item. Um, at the time of 799 01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:58,880 year as well, uh, I don't think there's any rush to put any any grass. Um, most 800 01:05:56,079 --> 01:06:04,160 of the grass is is in a dormant state right now anyways. And like I say, I 801 01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:09,359 just hesitate to spend money to feed the bugs that we're trying to get rid of. 802 01:06:06,079 --> 01:06:15,599 So, um, I will be supporting the refer. >> Okay. Councelor White. 803 01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:23,359 » Thank you, Mayor Bahal. Um I my my thoughts on this are first I appreciate 804 01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:31,280 the to do a shortterm cleanup uh certainly to address the appearance in 805 01:06:26,240 --> 01:06:37,599 the community. Um I I think given the uh the extensive nature of this beetle 806 01:06:36,079 --> 01:06:43,119 infestation is not something that's unique to Lane 807 01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:49,520 City. It is uh something that's throughout all of Metro Vancouver as 808 01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:55,760 Counter Wallace mentioned and Albert. Um and I think uh there are numerous 809 01:06:53,119 --> 01:07:04,160 approaches to mitigating and dealing with this issue both from pest control 810 01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:12,880 to neato use to um alternate landscaping to education and training for um 811 01:07:08,880 --> 01:07:17,760 individuals and uh I think uh we need a comprehensive approach to it. I think uh 812 01:07:16,079 --> 01:07:23,599 there's learning that we can take from other communities as well and so I for 813 01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:28,720 one would support the recommendation going towards the sustainability. 814 01:07:27,760 --> 01:07:31,680 » Thank you. >> I think we've had a good discussion on 815 01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:35,039 this. I'll call the question. All those in favor 816 01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:40,520 there's none opposed. So that's unanimous. Uh 12 A6. 817 01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:50,079 Um, so this uh motion is titled city sanitation. Uh, same as before. Before I 818 01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:54,880 read it, I'll go see if I get a second because I have um an amendment to the 819 01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:57,520 wording as provided by the chief cover officer. 820 01:07:55,760 --> 01:08:03,039 » Yep. Seconded by Council Walls. >> Okay. So then I will immediately move um 821 01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:06,880 that the wording be amended to read. Whereas a council member has received 822 01:08:05,359 --> 01:08:11,200 regular complaints regarding the quantity of trash strewn about the city. 823 01:08:09,039 --> 01:08:16,719 And whereas it is perceived that there is more garbage littering the sidewalks 824 01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:20,560 and public spaces recently. And whereas garbage littering our public spaces has 825 01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:24,239 the potential to affect community pride, resident morale, and negatively impact 826 01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:29,440 how our community is perceived by visitors. Therefore, be it resolved that 827 01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:34,400 council direct staff to provide council with a report outlining the city's 828 01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:38,960 overall current strategy to sanitation or overall current sanitation strategy 829 01:08:36,319 --> 01:08:44,040 to facilitate timely cleanup of trash in city parks, public spaces, and along 830 01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:44,040 sidewalks. 831 01:08:44,159 --> 01:08:50,080 » Well, seconded by myself. Uh, and so on the everybody's talking about the 832 01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:53,359 amendment now. [clears throat] Questions on the amendment before we get into 833 01:08:51,359 --> 01:08:59,600 talking on the main thing. So, none on the amendment. All the questions in 834 01:08:54,880 --> 01:09:03,839 favor if so there's none opposed or you can talk she's the main so she 835 01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:09,400 can >> all right 836 01:09:05,759 --> 01:09:09,400 second point 837 01:09:17,440 --> 01:09:25,359 right I've already generally I think covered this um but I think probably to 838 01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:30,719 touch on um this middle point. I think that uh council does have a need to 839 01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:35,759 consider overall capacity um with these complaints being received by myself and 840 01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:38,880 potentially other um members of or received by members of the public to 841 01:09:37,520 --> 01:09:43,440 myself and maybe other members of council. Um so I think that a strategy 842 01:09:41,359 --> 01:09:46,480 to address waste in the city um as our population grows as we approach Sky 843 01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:53,120 Train I think is really important and potent for council to consider. Um, I 844 01:09:49,759 --> 01:09:57,520 went out on a five minute walk. I got all of these photos. Um, I went back out 845 01:09:55,600 --> 01:10:03,360 a few days later. The trash was all still there. So, the exact same 846 01:09:59,920 --> 01:10:08,080 situation as you see it um as it was. This sticker um obviously uses our 847 01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:12,320 trademark. Our logo has offensive photos. It's got a like a needle. It's 848 01:10:10,239 --> 01:10:16,640 got a bike with a tire missing and it looks like it's been there for, you 849 01:10:14,159 --> 01:10:22,000 know, a couple years. Um, so I think that, you know, that's problematic. Um, 850 01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:27,760 again, same five minute walk from, um, the bus stop over to right across from 851 01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:37,199 city hall. Um, tons of garbage straight about. Um, same site, same day. Garbage. 852 01:10:34,239 --> 01:10:41,120 Um, I have here um, garbage remained there for days. Same site. There's even 853 01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:43,600 garbage. Um, you can see like it's here, it's all here, it's here, it's here, 854 01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:48,159 it's here. It's pretty much kind of the entire site 855 01:10:45,760 --> 01:10:53,280 and I see it. I have been noticing that I've been getting complaints about in 856 01:10:50,000 --> 01:11:00,080 our public uh parks, our um like along sidewalks and our public spaces. Um so I 857 01:10:58,159 --> 01:11:04,480 want to be very clear. I think that staff are operating within the capacity 858 01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:08,800 that council is setting. Um I think that however council needs to consider our 859 01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:12,880 overall capacity to ensure that staff have the resources they need to clean 860 01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:17,520 our streets. I know that we've hired many administrative positions so far 861 01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:22,880 this term. However, um I want to ensure that we are looking at um how we can 862 01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:26,159 effectively get service delivery to um residents is going to affect them and I 863 01:11:24,480 --> 01:11:30,159 guess grassroots improve the quality of their life. Um whether it relate to 864 01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:34,159 community pride, whether it relates to overall resident morale um or just 865 01:11:32,239 --> 01:11:38,480 cleanliness of our streets. Um I think that it's how we present ourselves and 866 01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:43,040 we should be um doing our best and assessing capacity where necessary. Um, 867 01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:47,840 and I think that it's necessary here. So, I hope to be your support. Okay. 868 01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:52,000 » Thank you. Um, councelor Wallace and then councelor. 869 01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:55,520 » Yeah. Um, I just want to say it's the first time I I didn't realize that we 870 01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:59,199 could do powerpoints. We take that time up and do that. So, 871 01:11:56,800 --> 01:12:06,239 » everybody has five minutes. >> I didn't realize that. Um anyway, I 872 01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:13,360 wanted to ask a clarifying question um to Miss Kenny in the sense when um we 873 01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:18,800 want to is it defer like give it to refer? Sorry, I can't keep my wrong 874 01:12:15,520 --> 01:12:24,880 refer um to a committee. Can you cross refer to to committees? 875 01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:27,280 Can you can you um refer to two committees 876 01:12:25,920 --> 01:12:33,520 » or three for that matter? >> Yes. So, I would like to refer because I 877 01:12:30,239 --> 01:12:38,800 do believe that uh uh Langley City does take pride in the community and I think 878 01:12:35,600 --> 01:12:44,239 that uh um that there's a lot of people working on this and um we refer it to 879 01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:50,000 our environmental sustainability committee because it comes up in regards 880 01:12:46,239 --> 01:12:59,280 to waste management. We've done the um the the dog waste pilot project. 881 01:12:55,280 --> 01:13:06,080 » You want to refer it to the um environmental sustainability committee, 882 01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:11,120 the um arch committee and 883 01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:15,760 the uh school leaison committee. >> Okay. Is there a second? So seconded by 884 01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:20,320 councelor Alre. Do you want to speak? >> Speak to it because I do believe I do 885 01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:25,440 believe that schools in our neighborhoods take pride and that we 886 01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:32,400 should continue in the sense if we could if uh councelor White and myself could 887 01:13:27,840 --> 01:13:39,040 bring it forward uh to a um say that is a concern of um our council in regards 888 01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:44,239 to the litter that they can be part of the uh solution and I believe they do. 889 01:13:41,440 --> 01:13:50,159 There's a lot of pride program um kind of pride programs in schools and then 890 01:13:46,480 --> 01:13:55,679 also um the arch committee did have um it is one of our tasks in our work plan 891 01:13:53,120 --> 01:14:01,440 that did come up in regards to that we wanted to look at was the it used to be 892 01:13:58,159 --> 01:14:05,760 called point of pride and now they're calling it adopt a park. So the point of 893 01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:10,800 pride would be as councelor Mack showed you in one of her slides in the previous 894 01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:17,360 about the street of the year that was part of the point of pride um program. 895 01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:22,480 So we are in discussion of um bringing that back and then uh I think I and then 896 01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:26,800 sorry I spoke before in regards to the environmental sustainability committee 897 01:14:24,640 --> 01:14:31,520 is that we're doing a lot of work in regards to um environmental 898 01:14:29,600 --> 01:14:36,000 sustainability when it comes to waste management and yes litter litter on the 899 01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:43,840 streets and one of the hardest things to tackle is one of the photographs that um 900 01:14:40,159 --> 01:14:48,159 um council Matt did um show was I think it 901 01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:51,679 um a road where there's probably drugs that were happening. That's one of our 902 01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:57,440 things that we are trying to tackle and it's very very hard um in regards to 903 01:14:54,480 --> 01:15:03,280 that cleanup and I think the city does um a lot of clean up when it comes to 904 01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:07,840 bylaws. So I know that's a lot but I'm speaking in the sense that I think that 905 01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:12,000 we have our committees for a reason and I know that we're all taking pride. This 906 01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:17,280 is [clears throat] an area that we do take pride in and uh I think it's 907 01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:21,760 important we back with our communities. >> Awesome. Councelor Albert, 908 01:15:19,440 --> 01:15:26,320 » uh yeah, I'm I'm really glad that um this has come forward. This it's been a 909 01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:31,600 problem for our environmental sustainability committee as Rosemary 910 01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:38,080 Councelor Wallace has noted. Um, I know we've got a uh a contract that is ending 911 01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:43,280 uh for our waist stream um uh bins and and uh containers in the downtown core. 912 01:15:41,199 --> 01:15:47,280 We're looking at doing a whole different strategy in the downtown. Uh staff are 913 01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:52,080 currently working on that. We're bringing that forward as a committee. Uh 914 01:15:49,679 --> 01:15:56,560 we're hopeful to have that early in the new year, uh I believe. And so we're 915 01:15:54,960 --> 01:16:03,120 really excited about trying to get something done for our for our downtown 916 01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:07,520 and uh and bringing that u that cleanliness aspect back to the 917 01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:12,000 community. At the same time, have an effective way of recycling material 918 01:16:10,159 --> 01:16:16,719 rather than everything going into one trash. So that those are those are key 919 01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:22,080 components that we're working towards. Uh, I also, and again, I don't want to 920 01:16:18,640 --> 01:16:27,040 speak uh to something that uh councelor James has better knowledge of, but I 921 01:16:23,679 --> 01:16:30,800 know the DLPA has a a cleanup program or volunteers that help uh with the 922 01:16:29,199 --> 01:16:35,120 cleaning of the downtown. So, we'll be coordinating all those kinds of works 923 01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:39,440 with our uh our work with the environmental sustainability committee. 924 01:16:37,440 --> 01:16:46,159 And I know that this has been something that has been oh probably their number 925 01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:52,880 one passion item uh for a couple years now uh without making much success 926 01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:57,520 because of the current contract provider um and and the limitations that we have. 927 01:16:55,280 --> 01:17:02,719 So I'll be supporting the referral. >> Thank you. Uh I am I add myself to the 928 01:17:00,239 --> 01:17:06,719 speaking list. So uh I am also uh supportive of the referral. I think 929 01:17:04,960 --> 01:17:11,040 there's a good opportunity to collaborate and I'll give you a good 930 01:17:08,159 --> 01:17:15,280 example. So, uh, a lot of people were throwing dog waste into Brien Creek and 931 01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:19,679 that's something that I did a request for service with staff uh, just so that 932 01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:24,000 was on the file and then I talked to Mr. Block and said, "Hey, I noticed this 933 01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:27,360 issue um, and I think other people did a request for service as well and I know 934 01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:34,400 the city crews are really quick that up." Uh and then um I talked to uh the 935 01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:39,440 environment committee and or the chair anyways and then that was part of the 936 01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:44,080 thought for the pilot for the dog waste bins were put there as a result and it 937 01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:47,760 certainly reduced uh that opportunity. So I think there's other things where 938 01:17:45,679 --> 01:17:51,840 you can look at these hotspots. Again I encourage everybody to actually do I do 939 01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:55,600 request for service because that's how staff know how to clean things up. Uh, 940 01:17:53,920 --> 01:18:00,640 and in my experience when I've done a request for service, it's been very 941 01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:04,159 quick to get that cleaned up. Um, but maybe that's a bit of an aside. Uh, so 942 01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:08,480 I'm going to be supporting that just because I think it'll bring a better 943 01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:14,000 outcome for an overall how we manage. Um, so councelor Mac, 944 01:18:10,480 --> 01:18:18,560 » thank you. Um, I was in support of referring the last um motion to 945 01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:22,320 committees. I think that of course I don't want to diminish the value of 946 01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:27,760 committee. just spoke to the value that I think um could be achieved by the 947 01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:31,280 previous referral. Um I do however think that it is important that as members of 948 01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:36,480 council we take accountability and and everything cannot just be outsourced to 949 01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:40,880 a committee or just sent away. Um this feels like it's adding bureaucracy to 950 01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:44,400 something that we have to look at which is aren't there enough people to 951 01:18:42,719 --> 01:18:48,159 actually clean up the garbage and are we adequately staffing and that's a council 952 01:18:46,159 --> 01:18:51,199 responsibility that's you know there might be other things that can be done 953 01:18:49,679 --> 01:18:55,760 point of pride program which will be absolutely supportive there can also be 954 01:18:53,760 --> 01:19:00,320 um like you know in terms of actually waste management where the waste goes 955 01:18:57,679 --> 01:19:04,000 however waste cleanup is our responsibility as a municipality so 956 01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:07,679 going to the school district and saying do you have people that want to 957 01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:12,480 volunteer here are are we stating as a municipality that we don't have enough 958 01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:16,960 resources or we don't have the like we don't we can't fund these positions for 959 01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:20,880 ourselves because that's not my perception. My perception is that we 960 01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:25,120 need to look at it. Um I said when we were up there we've hired many 961 01:19:22,719 --> 01:19:30,239 administrative positions. City admin has gone up 44 point some odd percent per 962 01:19:27,840 --> 01:19:39,280 capita. um assuming the approval of the 2026 budget. It's a financial plan. Um 963 01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:43,280 it's we're hiring in certain areas and we have over this council term. So I 964 01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:47,920 think it's important that as we're looking at all of our investments, we're 965 01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:52,000 going are we making investments that affect our residents lives? So I think 966 01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:58,880 this is an opportunity where instead of referring away this motion and adding a 967 01:19:56,239 --> 01:20:02,320 little bit of bureaucracy from some I think that we have the opportunity to 968 01:20:00,480 --> 01:20:06,239 address it now to give clear direction to staff. I do not think that it is 969 01:20:04,159 --> 01:20:10,719 appropriate for this motion to be um reverted away and I hope that ultimately 970 01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:14,719 respectfully um the referral isn't supported so that we can continue to 971 01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:18,560 address um the actual motion because it sounds like there's actually a lot of 972 01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:22,480 likemindedness in terms of but with respect to this motion that it needs to 973 01:20:20,239 --> 01:20:29,440 be addressed just about what the best way to do it is perhaps 974 01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:34,880 » so so in I guess the way that I look at our community is that it takes a 975 01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:39,760 community to look after um the city, right? So, we've had communities in 976 01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:46,560 bloom before. We've had the point of pride program. We've had cleanups that 977 01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:52,239 happen in our in our crates uh by Lying Environmental Partnerships that do it 978 01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:58,080 every year. Um we've have uh the get around Earth, another cleanup that has 979 01:20:54,880 --> 01:21:03,840 been a yearly thing. So my thing is like the reason why I'm not just uh referring 980 01:21:01,120 --> 01:21:09,360 things away. I'm referring it that we all take a collective responsibility in 981 01:21:06,480 --> 01:21:14,719 looking after um our city because it does it does create a um a point of 982 01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:18,400 pride. So, when I'm going into a school district or a school, if I'm going to a 983 01:21:16,480 --> 01:21:23,199 liaison committee and I say, you know what, we'd really like um your students 984 01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:26,880 to be involved in a pride uh point of pride program in your school where 985 01:21:25,199 --> 01:21:31,360 they're looking after creeks, they're looking after school grounds, and 986 01:21:28,480 --> 01:21:35,760 they're being conscious of of um what is thrown away as far as the environmental 987 01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:40,800 impacts. So, you know, when you're throwing um garbage or you know, other 988 01:21:38,719 --> 01:21:46,080 things into streams, how that it becomes a learning of what can happen. So, my 989 01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:51,280 sense is like I'm, you know, I'm thankful that you brought this forward, 990 01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:57,520 councelor Matt, but um in in in saving costs in our city, I I I feel like in 991 01:21:54,400 --> 01:22:02,480 going we have we have staff that sit on a committee, our committees. 992 01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:06,320 So, I feel like they they take on that responsibility in in our environmental 993 01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:10,719 sustainability committee. We have two staff that sit on a committee, right? 994 01:22:08,239 --> 01:22:20,080 So, and our committee. So, I'm just like I'm really wanting to take a wholesome 995 01:22:16,159 --> 01:22:25,840 look at this and include as much as many citizens as possible from very young to 996 01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:30,320 very old so that we all take responsibility for having and a clean 997 01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:34,560 city. >> So, I'm going to go Mr. Chong and I 998 01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:40,000 think this was a good discussion. >> Yeah, thank you Mr. Certainly there are 999 01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:46,800 a lot of discussion obviously all of us uh have you know take issue with state 1000 01:22:43,679 --> 01:22:50,639 kidless in the city obviously we follow those syndromes if there's an issue 1001 01:22:48,719 --> 01:22:54,719 anything small we want to deal with it otherwise it's going to get bigger and 1002 01:22:52,239 --> 01:22:58,639 bigger um the fact of the matter is we don't have a lot of complaints about 1003 01:22:55,840 --> 01:23:03,280 litters we do litter pickup on regular basis and any residents whether it's 1004 01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:07,520 council Mac or anybody else can certainly file a request for service to 1005 01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:12,080 the city and our staff will be very responsive. We'll go out and deal with 1006 01:23:09,199 --> 01:23:18,800 the issue and I'm sure Mr. Paul and staff if there's a overwhelming 1007 01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:22,960 or need uh to do um you know more additional pickup you will certainly 1008 01:23:20,639 --> 01:23:27,760 submit a service level enhancement hire additional staff to address those 1009 01:23:24,639 --> 01:23:32,159 issues. So uh you know I think it's a good discussion we need to address this 1010 01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:36,560 issue and referring to the different committees will give us those policy 1011 01:23:34,159 --> 01:23:40,560 direction to look at this issue for this. 1012 01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:45,440 So with that I think I'll have a question on all those in favor. Any 1013 01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:54,000 opposed? So councelor might oppose. So that's carried. So item 12 A7. Uh it's 1014 01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:59,760 written here a second for council re. So just some context. 1015 01:23:56,800 --> 01:24:03,600 This isn't necessarily like a motion that I put forward just because it was a 1016 01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:08,000 conversation that I had with a few members of council and I know this was a 1017 01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:12,960 followup to the meeting that I wasn't unable to attend uh unfortunately but uh 1018 01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:15,920 I just wanted to get a group of council to send it a letter for next steps 1019 01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:21,040 because I know it's part of our strategic priorities still and then 1020 01:24:18,480 --> 01:24:26,000 hopefully get the signature telling us some concrete action. So any discussion 1021 01:24:24,159 --> 01:24:31,600 on that? >> It's been moved and seconded 1022 01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:36,000 by councelor Alre. Any further discussion? Let's see none 1023 01:24:33,679 --> 01:24:40,159 other question. All those in favor. So that's carried unanimously. And so that 1024 01:24:38,480 --> 01:24:45,760 brings us to the end. I move that we adjourn. Seconded by M. Question. All 1025 01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:50,920 those in favor. Any opposed? You're I will see you all 1026 01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:50,920 weeks.