[0:04] public to see.
[0:10] » Yeah.
[0:14] » Cool. So, I think we're all here and I
heard the meeting is ready to start. So,
[0:19] I think we are ready to start. So I
would like to call our regular meeting
[0:25] for November 3rd order and acknowledge
that we're gathered on the traditional
[0:30] and unseated territory of the KC map and
semi first nations. We have an agenda in
[0:36] front of us and I believe we need to
make a change to that agenda. So I'm
[0:40] going to first just get it on the floor.
So I'll move the U agenda and get a
[0:46] seconded by Alrech that I need to
>> Yes. uh through the chair to council. Um
[0:53] I was aware of um a mistake with um
giving out a template for our October
[1:01] 20th minutes. It's not the actual
minutes that is in your package. So I'd
[1:04] like to have that uh removed from
consideration of when adopting amend
[1:09] amendments. And councelor Mack also
identified that there was a mistake made
[1:14] in the se October 27th special minutes.
So I'd also like to have those removed
[1:21] from consideration adoption. Those will
come forward in the proper next.
[1:25] » So we'll I'll move that we amend section
uh so can I do that to agenda? So I will
[1:32] amend move that we amend item 6A and
strike 6 A1 [clears throat]
[1:39] city. So it's 6 A. It's actually
>> Oh, sorry. 6A2.
[1:45] » 6 A1. You're correct. The regular
meeting is October 20th and just um um
[1:51] three or the October 27th special
meeting.
[1:55] » Sure. So um that we strike 6A1 and that
we amend item uh 6 A3 Tuesday to say
[2:03] that the minutes of the special meeting
held on October 20th sorry October 14th
[2:09] and October 20th 2025 adopted Mr. So
that's my proposed amendment second by
[2:14] council M. Further discussion
seeing none on that I'll call a question
[2:19] on the amendment. All those in favor any
opposed none opposed. So that's
[2:23] unanimously. So we now have an amended
agenda. Is there any other changes?
[2:28] Thank you.
Uh any other amendments?
[2:33] Seeing none I'll call the question on
the amended agenda. All those in favor?
[2:37] Any opposed? So that's carried unanimous
be part of the committee of the poll.
[2:41] I'll move that the committee of the poll
uh commence. Is there a seconder? So
[2:47] seconded by councelor Alrech. Any
further discussion? All the questions in
[2:52] favor? Any opposed? So that's carried
unanimously. I'll turn it over to Mr.
[2:56] Chang and maybe a brief overview of this
amendment if you had any
[3:03] uh if there's anybody who would like to
speak and provide the benefit of their
[3:06] opinion pass this committee level. Thank
you Mr. Mayor. Um so a presentation for
[3:12] this financial plan amendment was formed
um in prior weeks. Uh
[3:19] for this particular financial plan
amendment uh it's mostly house items um
[3:24] such as additional transformation
items um that we need to adapt to
[3:30] throughout the year. They were limited
that presentation on state of fire all
[3:36] fired for the exterior of the building.
So there's the be inside that a little
[3:42] bit more significant. Um but for the
most part that pretty much summarizes
[3:47] the items.
[clears throat]
[3:50] » Thank you.
>> So um is anybody received any
[3:55] correspondence on this?
>> Uh no you worship.
[3:58] » Thank you. And is there anybody here
that would like to speak to the uh 2025
[4:04] 2029
financial plan amendment that's here
[4:09] and if you are and I'm not seeing that
there anybody that is
[4:14] so checking again I'm not seeing any so
I think there's probably nobody here
[4:19] that wants to provide us input on this
is there any further discussion council
[4:27] seeing none then I'll Move that we rise
and report. Is there a second council or
[4:31] wallets? All further discussion seem all
those in favor. So that's carried. Uh so
[4:39] that brings us to business arising. So
we have a recommendation hearing section
[4:43] 5A.
The bylaw cited as financial plan 2025
[4:48] through 2029 bylaw 2025 number 3308
amendment number one 2025 bylaw number
[4:54] 3315. That be right upon final time. Is
there a mover? Move by councelor Alrech.
[4:59] Seconder seconded by councelor White.
Further discussion
[5:04] seeing none question. All those in
favor? Is there any opposed? So that's
[5:08] carried. We're on to our consent agenda.
Anybody like to remove any
[5:16] seeing none who would like to move by
councelor seconded by Alrech. Further
[5:21] discussion see the question. All those
in favor?
[5:25] So there's none oppose. So that's
carried. Uh so now we have the
[5:30] opportunity for a delegation. I guess
it's Miss Luck who's coming to present.
[5:36] » Yeah, it's actually L
>> Lucky. Awesome. Thank you so much.
[5:40] » No, thank you. Um Papel
and um counselors, thank you for giving
[5:47] me the opportunity.
>> And if you want, you're more than
[5:49] welcome to pull up a chair if that's
more convenience.
[5:53] Yes,
>> then I don't have to feel so studious.
[5:59] Um, my name is Carlen Lucky. I'm a new
resident here in the city of Langley and
[6:03] I represent Lucky Life Society. We are
here today because our mission is
[6:08] perfectly aligned with your s
strategic goals to integrate a holistic
[6:17] approach to community safety and
fostering a thriving healthy community
[6:21] for all. all residents key themes
throughout the city's city of Langley's
[6:28] he why did I put that word in I'm so
sorry
[6:32] I can't say it plan
um every council meeting addresses high
[6:37] costs of response the cost of policing
emergency housing emergency services
[6:42] reacting to crisises but those crisises
all share a common root the cycle of
[6:50] trauma is continual
The generational crisis has touched
[6:54] families directly or indirectly all
throughout this province. We cannot
[7:00] speak of generational trauma in Canada
without first acknowledging the profound
[7:05] and ongoing impact of assimulation
behavior and residential schools and the
[7:10] critical need for truth and
reconciliation for indigenous families
[7:15] whose wounds run deep within our
community and on this very land that we
[7:20] stand on today. Beyond that, consider
the foundational trauma experienced by
[7:26] countless immigrants.
Immigrant families over the last 200
[7:31] years from those interament camps during
wartime and the ongoing struggles with
[7:37] displacement. This historical burden
echoes in our homes today. And the mere
[7:43] fact that we had more deaths from
substance abuse during the pandemic than
[7:48] the pandemic itself is a loud and clear
message of our provin province's mental
[7:54] health state.
Lucky life's approach is to build on is
[8:00] built on the wisdom that was passed on
to me by the Haida nation. Our community
[8:05] is as strong as our weakest member. If
we offer a helping hand and lift them
[8:11] up, we will all be strong and we will
all benefit. This preventative approach
[8:16] is the priority at in your strategic
plan and forms the core of our legacy
[8:22] blueprint program. Our legacy blueprint
program embodies this principle as a
[8:28] traumainformed data generating program.
It specifically equips parents and
[8:34] caregivers right here in Langley with
the psychological tools to interrupt
[8:39] cycles of instability and critical
relationship concerns. This program is
[8:45] designed to ensure it generates vital
hyper local data for from participants
[8:51] which Lucky Life Society processes and
translates into actual actionable
[8:58] insights for collaborating
collaborative planning.
[9:03] This distinct service delivery focuses
on upstream solutions directly
[9:10] supporting the city's goal of proactive
rather than reactive community
[9:14] management counselors. Our program is
generating metrics based on the
[9:21] Icelantic uh preventative model which is
um uh endorsed by the federal government
[9:27] which shows that 82% of all participants
report a clinical significant increase
[9:34] in household stability and reduces
um reliance on crisis intervention
[9:40] services within six months. This data
coupled with Lucky Life's on the ground
[9:46] expertise and direct engagement with
families is the missing piece required
[9:51] to write a truly effective unified
community safety plan. If we take this
[9:57] proactive approach today, the large
problems that will undoubtedly arrive
[10:03] with the sky train route will not be
ours.
[10:07] By addressing these challenges through
datainformed strategies, we safeguard
[10:12] taxpayer dollars and create a more
predictable, resilient environment for
[10:17] local businesses directly supporting the
city's economic well-being. We are not
[10:24] asking for money today. We are only um
um requesting or proposing a formal
[10:31] strategic partnership. Our goal is to
leverage our data and our strategy to
[10:37] build a unified community plan in
collaboration with city planning,
[10:42] community service staff, and engaging
business partners. Lucky Life's role is
[10:47] pivotal by creating a direct from
community insights, an effective
[10:54] traumainformed
intervention meth methodology that forms
[10:59] the foundation of a proactive plan. This
collaborative ma model is precisely the
[11:05] integrated approach identified in your
plan for effective service delivery. We
[11:12] get to make the choices now that will
create and ensure community legacy
[11:17] continues in the city of Langley.
Investing in preventative prevention
[11:22] saves dollars and strengthen lives.
Lucky Life Society is committed to the
[11:27] collection and application of this vital
da d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d
[11:30] d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d d
d da and framework to help you build the
[11:33] strongest possible safety net for the
city of Langley. Our direct request is
[11:38] that council directs a member of the
city planning and invites community
[11:43] service staff to meet with us and
formally establish a scope of
[11:47] deliverables that for this community
plan. Lucky Life has already requested
[11:53] that the township of Langley and the
RCMP agree to meet with us for this this
[11:59] purpose.
We intend to take action ensuring that
[12:04] the plan integrates shared data,
proactive planning, and our proven
[12:08] traumainformed service delivery with all
the relevant city and business partners
[12:15] within the area with Lucky Light
recognized as an essential active
[12:20] contributor to its success. Thank you
for your leadership and thank you for
[12:25] committing to a safer, more inclusive
Langley and for the legacy we will leave
[12:30] behind us. Thank you.
>> Uh thank you so much for your
[12:33] presentation. I want to see if there's
any questions council uh councelor
[12:37] Wallace.
>> Um thank you so much for attending today
[12:41] and all the advocacy work you're doing.
It's really um important. Trauma
[12:45] informed practice um is very important.
I just um wanted to maybe say is there a
[12:52] way that we could encourage a meeting
with um our social planner of initiative
[12:58] uh strategic initiatives um Kay who's
working a lot with mapping and data uh
[13:03] to see if that you could meet with her
and share what you're doing um the lucky
[13:07] life society and I think you'll you'll
see that we're on on the the same page
[13:13] and moving forward.
>> Yeah. I mean I don't think we need a
[13:16] motion but motions are good. So if you
wanted to do that, you could move that
[13:21] the council um request that be McKay
Beno meet with
[13:26] » um the love lead society.
>> If I can move that.
[13:31] » Sure. So seconded by councelor Mac
[clears throat] and is there any
[13:35] discussion on that?
Seeing any follow question on that all
[13:40] in favor?
It's unanimous but there's still
[13:44] opportunity for for questions on this
too.
[13:46] » Yeah. I I just uh I really appreciate
your work, right? It takes a lot and uh
[13:52] it's very emotional work. Um you know,
especially when you talk about um the
[13:57] amount of overdoses that we're facing
and the ongoing struggle with trying to
[14:02] find um you know, adequate resources
helping people struggling in in a lot of
[14:08] different areas. So, it takes a lot of
courage to be here, but I I really feel
[14:12] that you will be impressed in the work
that Langley City and us as a council
[14:16] are doing in in in line with what you're
doing.
[14:20] » Thank you,
>> uh, Council White.
[14:24] » Thank you, Mayor Ball. Um, yeah, I just
wanted to thank you for your
[14:27] presentation.
Uh, welcome to the community. I How long
[14:32] have you been in the community now?
>> We moved here August 1st.
[14:35] » Oh, moved here August 1. So impress me.
>> Yeah.
[14:38] » Welcome [laughter]
uh welcome to our community and uh I
[14:42] thank you for uh just your passion and
your commitment to uh providing the kind
[14:49] of services and trauma informed services
that you're
[14:53] uh uh providing. Um, as with Councelor
Wallace's comments, I think you'll find
[14:59] a uh we're we're very much on the same
page and we're trying to work
[15:04] proactively and you'll find a host of um
service providers that uh will be open
[15:13] to working with you as well. So, uh it's
very embracing community that way. So,
[15:20] thank you.
>> Thank you very much. I just wanted to
[15:25] say thank you so much for coming and for
presenting. Um also welcome to the
[15:29] community and I look forward to building
you a bit more of a relationship um as
[15:33] time goes on. Um and just I wanted to
reinforce um again you strategic
[15:39] partnerships that we can make um are so
valuable. So thank you for coming and
[15:43] introducing yourself and I look forward
to the further discussions. Excellent.
[15:47] Thank you.
>> Uh any other questions or comments?
[15:51] So I I think again a lot of good things
have been said and I really appreciate
[15:56] the time you took to come and speak with
us and uh forward to further dialogue.
[16:00] » Excellent. I look forward to it also.
Thank you so much
[16:03] » and you're more than welcome to stay or
you're more than welcome to get on with
[16:06] your evening whatever you
>> Thank you.
[16:12] » So with that uh we'll move on to item
98.
[16:16] So that is our next regularly scheduled
meetings or November 17th followed by
[16:20] December 1st. Uh is there any council
advisory updates? Um of which we don't
[16:27] receive minutes uh that you defended the
counselor walls. So, if I may, it's not
[16:33] a meeting I attended, but I know with
the strategic um goals that the library
[16:39] board is doing, which I do sit on, um
they're working with, you know, climate
[16:43] action. Um
>> so, I just wanted to mention, and it's
[16:47] very short notice, but uh an energy
savings workshop will be held um in the
[16:53] library downstairs, Tuesday, November
4th from 6:00 to 7:30. Yeah. Reducing
[16:59] energy consumption can result in
noticeable changes to com home comfort,
[17:03] efficiency, and affordability. From
learning how to read energy bills and
[17:07] discovering energy saving measures and
install installation techniques, this
[17:12] workshop empowers participants by
offering basic energy efficiency and
[17:17] home safety education. Um this workshop
is presented by empower me um drop drop
[17:24] in program for all ages. So, I just
wanted that align with our, you know,
[17:28] our climate action and really proud that
they have that the staff is taking on
[17:32] that climate action.
>> Yeah. Thank you for that FBRL update.
[17:37] Uh, is there any others?
Seeing none, then we'll go over to item
[17:43] 10 A. So, we do have a recommendation
that uh the board is for the report and
[17:48] then we can see if there's any questions
on the report and then go from there. So
[17:52] the recommendation is that the report
dated October 20th, 2025,
[17:57] title proposed pharmacy separation
regulation amendment for 2033
[18:03] Avenue be received for information. Is
there a second? Move by councelor
[18:07] Wallace, seconded by councelor Alrech.
Uh is there any questions or comments on
[18:12] the report?
Councelor M.
[18:16] » Thank you. I think that um I just want
to clarify because I know that I
[18:20] oftentimes take a hard line in terms of
OCP adherence and I do believe that we
[18:25] should be upholding our policies. Um so
that's the general stance that I
[18:29] typically come from when assessing this.
However, in looking at the recommended
[18:33] deviation, it is to permit a pharmacy to
um be placed at the same place as a
[18:38] doctor's office. So I felt that in terms
of use, this makes a lot of sense. Um so
[18:43] I am in support of it. I just wanted to
clarify.
[18:46] » Thank you. Uh we'll go to councelor
Wallace and councelor life.
[18:50] » I'm in total agreeance with councelor
Mack when I read uh the report and the
[18:56] connection um and that one-stop service,
not just it wasn't just about the
[19:01] pharmacy. I think it's the collective
resources and the things that they'll be
[19:05] doing is really positive.
>> Councelor White.
[19:09] » Thank you, Mayor Bahal. Um I would uh
agree with both my council colleagues in
[19:15] terms of uh their opinions on this. I
think my only question um would be uh
[19:22] directed to Mr. Johansson if I could in
terms of how will the city ensure that
[19:29] it remains ancillary
um and not eventually develop into a
[19:37] standalone practice within that unit. Um
and so that would be my question.
[19:44] » Yes. To the mayor, councelor White. And
um just before before I answer that, um
[19:49] if council does give this first say it
goes to public hearing, the applicant
[19:53] will be there and they can present their
proposal and answer detailed questions
[19:58] as well. But on the staff perspective,
um if [clears throat] if it is I mean
[20:03] they are permitted to have that right
now. uh what they what they need to do
[20:08] in order to enact that uh is bring in
that building permit. Of course, as part
[20:12] of that building permit, if the pharmacy
is approved, we will see that on the
[20:16] building plans and the size that we
expect that. So, that's one way for us
[20:21] to ensure that their proposed size of
the pharmacy, which I believe is 900
[20:26] square feet out 500 square feet. So, it
is
[20:31] uh one way of doing it. we can also uh
put a their business license as
[20:36] something.
>> So yeah,
[20:39] » great. Thank you.
>> Thank you.
[20:41] » Any other questions on the report?
Uh so just uh I guess a quick one for me
[20:48] for clarification. and you said it was a
auxiliary use and um
[20:53] there would be no way that this would be
able to be switched in the future and
[20:58] this is not going to be like a shop as
far as you know this is not like a
[21:02] shopper drug isn't the right example but
like a we had a pharmacy that was near
[21:07] there and I won't mention the name but
it was adjacent to a doctor's office but
[21:11] it also very much was a retail operation
in your opinion is this that kind of
[21:17] retail operation or is it sort of
something that is actually an auxiliary
[21:22] use and the place and is primarily a
medical
[21:26] » uh yes in response to question my
understanding and based on the
[21:30] applicants model
staff here Mr. for talent cough can
[21:35] provide more context if if be and again
as some adult presented that public
[21:41] hearing this gets first and second is
that it's part of a family medical
[21:46] practice it's meant to be something
that's direct dispense they probably
[21:50] will have some products for sale but it
won't be at the same scale as you know
[21:56] or something like that or an independent
pharmacy that supports medical practice
[22:02] uh they've got a few of these uh
server set up and again it's something
[22:08] that um you know with the we have a a
building permit that will come in expect
[22:14] we'll see
uh the drawings and the space that's
[22:18] constructed
[22:22] um the other aspect is again in terms of
the business licenses
[22:27] the allocation space
so
[22:32] we'll be also monitoring
So we're confident this is going to be
[22:38] » Thank you so much uh councelor Albert.
>> Yeah. Uh thank you. Thank you for this
[22:43] and and um with the information given
and I'm supportive of it. I'm a little
[22:49] leery. So if we could get um say um some
information on the current models that
[22:57] they're running in Siri, you you preface
those just so that we can maybe look
[23:02] into that. And I I don't want the
applicant to get their hopes up because
[23:07] if they're not doing what they're
portraying or what we're thinking
[23:11] they're doing, that could be turned
down.
[23:15] » Thank you. Um so just for clarity for
anybody who's attending, um it's not an
[23:20] opportunity for anybody attending to
speak. It's just for counsel or for
[23:23] staff. Um did you have any follow?
>> Yeah. So just coun we'll have them
[23:29] present their their model, their case.
Again,
[23:34] one thing we're considering again is is
on the aspect of our stock right now
[23:40] that they're really there to support.
[23:46] » So, any other questions on the report?
See none on the report. I'll see if we
[23:51] can get councelor James after I'll call
a question on the report. All those in
[23:54] favor receiving the report. All those
opposed. That's not opposed. That
[23:59] carries unanimously. We're on to the
amendment. So the recommendation is that
[24:04] the bylaw cited as zoning bylaw 1996
number 2100 amendment number 221 202.5
[24:11] number 3322 be read a first and second
time is a secondary. So move by
[24:16] councelor M by council. Any further
discussion on bylaw?
[24:23] So, I know it's been stated, but just in
the bylaw section, you know, uh I was
[24:28] here when we put in the pharmacy
distancing because there was a large
[24:33] amount ofies in our area from more of a
retail perspective that was taking away
[24:38] from the active storefront, which I
think is something we've been trying to
[24:42] really promote in our community,
engaging active storefronts. Uh for me
[24:47] with this one, uh confirmation of what
we'll hear from the applicant. I'm
[24:52] generally supportive of this if indeed
it's an excellent use and knowing where
[24:55] it's located. It is a current office
building that isn't an active retail
[25:00] use. So that gives me comfort with
giving this person a second. But I
[25:04] certainly look forward to to getting
more because uh you know spot zoning is
[25:08] something I know we've done and for good
reasons for certain things but when we
[25:12] do it I just want to be really certain
uh that there's a clear for me that
[25:16] there's a clear um rationale for that.
those uh seeing I don't think there's
[25:21] any other comments I'll call the
question on first and second all those
[25:24] in favor there any opposed there's none
opposed so that's carried unanimously we
[25:30] are on to
a few things here for uh community plan
[25:39] uh bylaw number 3319 public consultation
requirements so this is for
[25:46] consideration of the proposed use
building bylaw and this sets out the um
[25:54] public consultation or or a stakeholder
consultation process. I don't
[25:59] necessarily want to read all of this,
but if um I'm happy to if somebody wants
[26:04] to, but for just the recommendations and
10B, not the actual zoning bylaw. Um I'd
[26:10] love to move it as it's presented here
in our agenda. Is there a seconder
[26:15] seconded by councelor Alrech? Is there
any discussion on that consultation
[26:20] side? Please go ahead.
>> Thank you. I know that um a lot of this
[26:24] is really the tenants in section 475 of
the local government act. But what I do
[26:28] hear from our indigenous partners is
that they feel that they get
[26:32] consultation kind of late in the game at
the stage of say first and second
[26:36] readings already being given bylaw. Um,
so I just I wanted to flag that uh as we
[26:42] are looking at our policies and our
practices, if we could ensure that um
[26:46] they're going to our indigenous partners
prior to even consideration of first and
[26:51] second. I think that that would be a
really good way to build relationships
[26:54] and ensure that they're not getting a
three/4er baked potato and said hope you
[26:59] like potato. Do you like potato? Um
that's all to say.
[27:06] » Uh or Mr.
Just um thank [clears throat] you
[27:09] through the mayor councelor. Thank you.
Um all of these um agencies for first
[27:15] nations and agencies we have to them
already. Uh but take it.
[27:21] » Thank you.
>> Yeah, I know there's always that early
[27:23] and often work that goes on. Um
councelor Wallace. Um, if I may, I I
[27:29] mean, I don't know if it's too late, but
um, just for our public, I think it will
[27:34] be important to um, name our the
connections that we are going to be be
[27:40] making if if that's the the list of um,
because I think it's important that our
[27:47] our our public knows that the
partnerships that we will be engaging,
[27:51] right, in regards to that.
>> For sure. I I mean it certainly will be
[27:54] in the agenda, but uh you're more than
welcome to name the folks that are being
[27:59] consulted here
>> and I appreciate that our um indigenous
[28:02] uh partners are at the top of the list
in regards to Ky First Nation, Quantland
[28:07] First Nation, Matte First Nation, San
Miami First Nation, City of Suri,
[28:11] Township of Langley, Metro Vancouver,
School District number 35 and Translink.
[28:16] Thank you for allowing me to do that.
>> Yeah, thank you so much. Any further
[28:20] discussion on that section?
Cool. See no call question. All those in
[28:25] favor? Any opposed? So there's none
opposed. So that's carried. Now we're on
[28:30] to the actual bylaw. So you do have the
recommendation here uh that the bylaw
[28:34] cited at city of Langley official
community plan bylaw 2021 number 2300
[28:41] amendment um sorry 3200 amendment to
2025 number 319
[28:48] secondary by councelor white seconded by
councelor
[28:52] any questions on this part
seeing one call the question all those
[28:57] in favor so there's none opposed so
that's carried So that brings us to the
[29:02] actual introduction of the new zoning
bylaw. Now uh that the bylaw cited at
[29:07] city of Langley zoning bylaw 2025 number
3300 we read it first and second time.
[29:12] Uh so moved by councelor white seconded
by councelor Wallace. Is there
[29:16] discussion on this?
[29:20] Oh councelor Alrech. If I could, I just
I just wanted to thank staff for really
[29:25] putting together a document that really
goes into a detailed explanation of what
[29:30] we're doing and how we're moving
forward. So, uh I think it's really
[29:33] clear and and concise and provides the
public with uh answers to any concerns
[29:40] that they may have. So, I just want to
express my appreciation to staff.
[29:47] » Any other discussion?
So, I'm not seeing any. And uh just so
[29:51] people know, this is the first go at
this. We've had a lot of discussion over
[29:55] the last three years really on the
zoning bylaw. Uh and I understand Mr.
[30:00] Johansson that if council does decide to
move forward with the final adoption of
[30:04] this after going through the due
process, uh there'll be further
[30:08] refinements based on feedback we've
heard from council over the last couple
[30:12] years as well. So, with that, I will
call the question. All those in favor?
[30:16] Is there any opposed? So, uh, there's
none opposed, so that's carried
[30:20] unanimously. Uh, brings us to the yard
waist pilot update, which we have a
[30:25] report in our agenda, and there are two
recommendations that I will read and see
[30:29] if there's over a secondary. That the
yard waist pilot project be extended to
[30:34] November 30th, 2025. that staff be
directed to coate the data from the yard
[30:39] wastist pilot project which ends on
October 31st, 2025 and report back to
[30:45] council on potentially incorporating
excess yard waste collection into the
[30:49] solid waste organis collection contract
on a permanent basis including levels of
[30:54] service as well as associated costs in a
second there. So moved by councelor
[30:58] Solium, seconded by councelor Alrech. Is
there discussion on this one? Councelor
[31:02] Wallace
>> just [clears throat] that I'm glad to
[31:04] see this moving forward. Um it's I think
it's been very popular. I know that
[31:09] we've staff is trying to you know read
out the things that uh um with the
[31:15] citizens of Lane that are receiving
this. So um just want to thank staff um
[31:20] and uh council for um their dedication
and interest in in delivering this
[31:25] service to our residents. So I look
forward to it becoming an ongoing thing.
[31:30] Thank you.
>> Thank you. Uh is there any other
[31:33] discussion councing?
[31:37] Um is there a limit to the amount of
during this pilot? Was there any limits
[31:42] to the amount of uh paper bags in
addition to the bin?
[31:48] » Transfer know and for the purpose of the
pilot project.
[31:53] » Perfect. Thank you. Any other questions?
So just a question for me. Um, I was
[31:59] just reading the report here too and it
said that we collected is about excess
[32:03] from about 100 to 150 houses per day.
How many I guess in a week then are we
[32:09] talking about of the 3,000 plus people
that receive this? Is it like 300 that
[32:16] are getting the extra stuff or is it
everybody? Um, as [clears throat] a
[32:20] percentage maybe
Mr. Mayor is one of the things we we
[32:25] haven't as we mentioned the report we
haven't got the full data because it's
[32:28] strictly speaking as last Friday that we
would have completed that first month.
[32:33] » So those kind of that kind of detail I
hope for the council was part of the
[32:37] next state.
>> I appreciate that. So seeing that I
[32:41] don't any other Oh councelor white
please go ahead.
[32:44] » Thank you mayoral to the mayor.
Um,
[32:49] first thing on the top of my head is uh
just to thank staff for the amount of
[32:56] coordination that's been involved and uh
dealing with residents who have I guess
[33:03] a number of questions and concerns
through the whole process. And uh
[33:07] whenever something kicks off the first
time around, there's always extra
[33:13] uh concerns and things to be addressed.
Um, I do have a question and it it um
[33:20] pertains to the bins themselves and and
uh that that relates to I I understand
[33:28] reading through the documentation and
that uh the the bends are sourced uh in
[33:35] the US and so I'm concerned about
growing additional fees that may come
[33:40] with that tariffs uh exchange rates all
those things. Um, are there plans to
[33:47] address this in the future
foreseeable future um to keep our cost
[33:54] as minimal as possible um for that? So
the chair and first to your first point,
[34:03] councelor White, I I'd like to recognize
the efforts of a lot of people at city
[34:08] hall from our communications folks
through to our front counter staff have
[34:14] been taking um phone calls and people at
the front counter. So there's been a lot
[34:20] of effort put in and I think um
uh I'm aware of implementation in other
[34:27] municipalities and I think going to a
new technology it has been
[34:34] really very smooth. It's not without
hasn't been without issues but it hasn't
[34:39] in terms of a new service that actually
has been
[34:43] quite effectively and I do givea
credit for that as well. The issue
[34:48] around the bins or the totes is uh your
concern is one of the reason that we've
[34:54] been working with them. We're trying to
make sure that we can cut down on things
[34:59] like shipping cost by incorporating into
their larger because they they service
[35:04] other municipalities throughout British
Columbia and across Canada. So, we're
[35:09] trying to make sure that the number of
bids that we do bring in really are
[35:14] maybe part of a larger shipment that
comes in as part of a larger order. You
[35:19] know, we initially got 7,000 bins in
which, you know, you keep in the back of
[35:24] semi trucks. That's not going to be the
case as such, but the life
[35:28] [clears throat]
the life of one of these totes should
[35:31] really um extend through the entire
length of the contract. So really once
[35:37] we have this the sizing issue sorted out
we really expect that apart from having
[35:42] a small number in reserve that we
shouldn't really see this problem
[35:50] any other questions
see none I'll call this all those in
[35:55] favor I can so that's carried
unanimously
[35:59] uh we are on to motion so we have the
Fraser Valley Library board appointment
[36:04] so there's what we did last year there.
So there's the opportunity to move that.
[36:08] Also, if anybody wants to do a
nomination, vote by ballot, that's an
[36:12] option as well.
Anybody wants that? So I'm not seeing
[36:17] any. So there is the recommendation
here. Then I'll just read out that
[36:21] councelor Rosemary Wallace be appointed
to the Fraser Valley Regional Library
[36:24] Board for 2026 and that councelor
Delaney Mack be appointed as a move and
[36:29] second. So moved by councelor White,
seconded by councelor. Any discussion?
[36:35] But I see no discussion for this one. So
I'll call the question. All those in
[36:38] favor.
That's unanimous. Uh same thing for the
[36:43] next one. There's this caring over from
last year. If people would like to do a
[36:47] nomination process, we can do that as
well.
[36:52] So nobody wants that. So we have the
recommendation here that councelor
[36:56] Paulre be appointed to the Metro
Vancouver board of directors for 2026.
[37:01] that councelor Rosemary Wallace be
appointed as the alternate. Is there a
[37:05] second? So moved by councelor Solium,
seconded by councelor White. Is there
[37:09] any discussion?
>> Thank you.
[37:14] Um on April 7th, our CEO Francis Cham
informed the members of council um and
[37:20] the public that a legal opinion
determined that council had to be
[37:23] operating in contraction of the local
government act because it was dually
[37:27] held the venture bank position as well
as his township appointing staffing
[37:31] position. As I understand um it
communicated operated in this role with
[37:37] the um the existing prevention. My
understanding is for two years prior to
[37:41] this determination just based upon his
employment and when he was appointed by
[37:46] council um Mr. Chung also informed
council at this meeting um as well as
[37:52] the public that the taxpayer paid for
the legal costs associated with the
[37:56] situation. Uh we have seen the cost
impacts from um the cost distributions
[38:03] of the Northshore wastewater treatment
facility.
[38:06] Councelor Alrech in conqu
voted to distribute the costs that Lang
[38:12] City residents are shouldering now.
>> Yes. So is there a point of order there?
[38:18] What's this got to do with
>> this is with regards to my
[38:20] determinational appointment? So it's
related. So I'll make my determination.
[38:25] » Okay.
>> Thank you. Um so um that city residents
[38:30] will be shouldering for the next 15year
amortization period. Um, and this is a
[38:34] courtesy that uh other municipally
elective vehicles did not extend to the
[38:40] Langley or to Langley City. Um, when the
Anesus Island wastewater treatment
[38:44] facility was constructed uh over and
above these cost impacts um the happy
[38:50] children by Langley City residents,
counceloract was voting and advocating
[38:54] for a much higher cost distribution
percentage. So for me um I have a lot of
[39:00] concerns. I have unanswered questions
regarding Mr. CH's report on April 7th.
[39:04] Um, as well, I have concerns regarding
the distri the decision to distribute
[39:09] costs for the Northshore wastewater
treatment facility. Um, so I will not be
[39:13] supporting uh councelor Alra's uh
appointment to the Metro Vancouver uh
[39:18] board. I did um on the April 7th meeting
um attempt to nominate numerous other
[39:27] members of council um which was not
supported by the council majority. So I
[39:31] don't wish to waste everybody's time by
going through the same repetitive
[39:34] process. Um so I I do feel that I'm left
at a position where um I I simply have
[39:40] to vote for the appointment.
>> Thank you. Um was there any feedback you
[39:46] have
>> um to the mayor? Um the only feedback
[39:50] that would happen is that we receive a
letter uh from the Metro Vancouver uh
[39:56] actually township mayor reminding us of
this situation and consequently as a
[40:02] municipality we sought legal advice in
terms how to deal with this issue. So it
[40:07] is fair and appropriate for the city to
pay for the legal advice to address this
[40:13] issue appropriately and fairly.
Thank you. And so I'll add myself to the
[40:19] speaking list. I think that uh they're
very supportive of the decisions that
[40:24] councelor Albert has made on behalf of
this council and so I believe he's
[40:29] represented our views or as a council on
that committee. I know the decisions on
[40:35] the Northshore wastewater treatment plan
was a very difficult one and certainly
[40:39] the majority of people on the Metro
Vancouver board landed at this
[40:43] discussion and I think that speaks to uh
councelor Alrech being aligned with
[40:48] majority opinion given the difficult
nature of how we tackle these regional
[40:53] issues. So, I I really commend him for
the effort and work um that he did
[40:58] representing our city on that board and
making that difficult decision on how we
[41:02] balance uh both the Northshore
wastewater treatment with the rest of
[41:06] the region is probably a position I
would have taken if I was in the same
[41:10] shoes as him. So, certainly very
supportive of his work um on the board.
[41:16] I think councelor Wallace
>> um I'm not going to reiterate about the
[41:19] north uh water waste treatment plant. Um
it's been talked about several times um
[41:25] why we reached where we did but I'm just
going to speak in regards to my
[41:30] colleague and I stepped in um and when
councelor Albbrrook had to step down and
[41:36] um he informed me and shared his
knowledge as he always does. I look up
[41:42] to him in his responsibilities in
representing um the city of Wangley on
[41:48] metro. I feel very um grateful that he
is there. he is on the governance. I
[41:52] know that is really important to them to
him and he is on that. I just want to
[41:57] say that uh the amount of um dedication
and work and uh reading that goes into
[42:03] what we do on Metro Vancouver is a lot
and that the relationships that we form
[42:08] um with other um members uh is is very
important and I I really respect um the
[42:16] work that uh councelor Albrech has done
on Metro Vancouver and brings back to
[42:20] the city.
Well, seeing nothing further, uh,
[42:25] councelor Albright, sorry, go ahead.
>> Yeah, I just I just want to touch on on
[42:28] one thing. When we're when we're dealing
with uh regional services, especially in
[42:34] Metro Vancouver, it's extremely
important to develop relationships,
[42:40] nurture relationships, and build those.
Um, that's a challenge in some in some
[42:45] regards. Uh and and we have in Metro
Vancouver five sewage treatment
[42:53] facilities.
Every one of them requires upgrades.
[42:58] Every one of them is not seismically
uh acceptable.
[43:03] Every one of them is not uh floodproof
because of climate change. So each and
[43:10] every one of these wastewater facilities
is going to require
[43:15] significant upgrades. We're talking
multibillion dollar delves. So if we
[43:22] don't come to the table and share the
burden and start having those
[43:26] conversations about how we share those
costs as a region and as a population,
[43:33] we're going to be in real trouble. So
anyways, um I'm proud of the work I do.
[43:38] Uh, I'm proud of what I bring to, uh,
Metro Vancouver. Uh, I'm proud to
[43:44] represent the city. I will always do
what's best for the city and I will
[43:48] continue to do so despite other people's
feelings. So, thank you all and I
[43:54] appreciate the support.
>> So, I'm not seeing any other questions
[43:58] or comments. I'll call the question on
that. All those in favor? Any opposed?
[44:02] So, councelor Maxost. So, that's
carried. Uh, we are on to the next
[44:06] motion which is for councelor Max. Over
to you.
[44:09] » Thank you, Georgia. Um, so this motion
reads annual cost of consulting
[44:14] contracts in the city. Um, I can read it
out. Um, it reads that council direct
[44:20] staff to present council with a detailed
breakdown of all consulting contracts
[44:24] and their purpose, including utilization
by department 2023, 2024, and 2025 year
[44:29] to date. and that council directs staff
to present council with a detailed
[44:33] breakdown of all anticipated consulting
expenditures and their purpose,
[44:36] including anticipated expenditures by
department included in the 2026
[44:41] financial plan. And that council direct
staff present this information at a
[44:45] regular meeting of council prior to the
regular meeting of council for first and
[44:49] second reading of the 2026 financial
plan will be considered.
[44:54] » Is there a second?
So, I'm not seeing any one seconding
[45:00] this.
Uh, so the next one, um, did you still
[45:04] want to move forward with that given
that it's been handled?
[45:08] » Uh, no, but maybe I don't know if I
should just clarify like the process
[45:11] just because I did I just wanted to say
I messaged staff before submitting this
[45:15] on the 18th and then was told that the
waste extension puppy or the waste pilot
[45:21] contract would not be extended. Um,
which is why I submitted this motion.
[45:25] » Okay. So I can withdraw but
>> okay just wanted to clarify.
[45:28] » Perfect.
>> So we are withdrawing that. Thank you so
[45:31] much. Uh so clad a sorry that came out
wrong. 12 a clad.
[45:37] » Okay. So um I do have a couple
amendments that have been provided by
[45:41] the corporate officer but um I guess
I'll just um
[45:49] so the title is grass restoration and
the shaper beetle. Um maybe I'll see if
[45:54] I get a second prior to
>> Yeah, I'll second it.
[45:57] » Um and then I do immediately have a
recommendation before potentially
[46:00] speaking to uh the original if I can get
um a seconder for that. Um and the
[46:07] recommendation um is just to change the
wording.
[46:10] » Yeah. So sorry, just for clarity, uh we
moved and seconded the original motion
[46:14] here, right? And now you're putting
forward an amendment.
[46:17] » Yeah, exactly. Um the corporate officer
pro provided me some wording that she
[46:21] wanted me to replace. um just to adhere
to best practices um and we didn't have
[46:26] time to coordinate that prior to um
sitting to be. So the the um it would be
[46:31] moved to have the motion uh reflect the
language whereas city maintained grass
[46:38] across the community has been decimated
by raccoons and crows on the hunt for
[46:43] shape shaper beetle grubs. And whereas
several residents have expressed a
[46:49] concern to a council or member of
council over the extended period of time
[46:54] that grass has been in disarray and
whereas there are ways to mitigate the
[46:58] impact of the shaper be and then as
read.
[47:01] » Okay written sorry
>> I'll second that. So uh any discussion
[47:07] on the amendment and then we can go back
to like so I would unless people have a
[47:10] problem with the wording we'll talk
about that if it's just a discussion on
[47:14] the actual amended thing then we'll go
back to that. So just on is there any
[47:18] wording questions or dialogue
seeing and I'll call a question on the
[47:23] amendments. So all in favor is there any
opposed? So there's none opposed. I
[47:28] don't I think that was in favor of the
amendments. Uh so now we're on to the
[47:32] main motion.
Get out my timer.
[47:55] All right. So, um, just going to try to
So, brass restoration and the Schaffer
[48:02] Beetle.
So, I'm trying to figure this out. Okay.
[48:06] So, in case I mean, I presume that other
members of council are familiar with the
[48:10] Shaper Beetle. Generally speaking,
you've probably seen it. However, uh we
[48:14] are seeing the impacts of the European
shaver beetle. Um they're an invasive
[48:19] species and they're problematic
specifically because they're um they lay
[48:23] eggs in the roots um and soil of grass
and then ultimately they hatch into
[48:29] larae which eats um they eat the uh
roots of the grass.
[48:35] got a little photo there to show the
hug.
[48:38] Um, insult to injury is added, so to
speak, because then you have raccoons
[48:43] that come that tear up the grass because
they're trying to get to the food
[48:46] source. So, once the grass is turned
over, obviously, it's unsightly, it's
[48:51] messy, and then further um the crows
come and fling fling around soil um
[48:59] and create additional mess.
[49:03] How did this come to be and come to my
attention? I've seen it around the
[49:06] community, but I also had um a
specifically a resident and met for um
[49:10] additional residents mention or ask me
to come and go for a walk um with them
[49:15] and they showed me um the state of some
of the medians and some of the city
[49:19] maintained grass um and expressed to me
that they've been in the state for a
[49:23] number of months. Um so I just have some
photos to um show council uh colleagues
[49:29] generally what I was seeing.
So you can see obviously here
[49:36] see there's a a crow that I caught
um here you see just I mean obviously
[49:43] like I have this this street of the year
here in 96. Um I think it's important
[49:47] that we have publicity pride. We're
maintaining to the best of our ability
[49:51] and then um if we do note um issues as
counselors that we bring those forward
[49:55] to look at whether or not we're
adequately resourcing our departments
[49:59] and if there's any other strategies that
uh we should be considering.
[50:04] So then getting to um the point of this
motion, um I think that it is important
[50:09] and prudent that council requests staff
to look at mitigating measures that are
[50:14] currently being implemented um as well
as further measures that we can explore.
[50:19] Um from there, look at um capital costs
if necessary as well as resourcing um
[50:25] and specifically capital costs um to
replace the patches of grass that we're
[50:29] seeing right now that are damaged. Um,
and then I guess in closing, because
[50:33] there might be a capital cost, um, I
think it's important that we have the
[50:36] these um, this information um, and this
presentation prior to consideration of
[50:40] the 2026 financial plan bylaw so we can
look at potential amendments.
[50:46] » Thank you.
>> Um, and then I'll just stop this pan
[50:50] there if there's any comments. So, uh,
councelor Walls,
[50:54] » um, thank you for bringing that to our
attention. I'm sure we've all seen the
[50:58] shaper bug and what it's been doing to
our community and it's actually been
[51:02] around for quite a long time. It hasn't
just been the last couple of years. Um
[51:07] if I know that Metro Vancouver through
Diamond Head Consulting has done an
[51:12] extensive report um in invasive species
coming up with a lot of deliver
[51:17] deliverables in ways that we can um
approach um
[51:24] say tackling it because I see the crows
and raccoons are already doing that.
[51:27] That's the natural thing to do. I know
that it's a nuisance. Um, I want to just
[51:32] uh commend this the city in regards to
um looking at measures when it comes to
[51:37] planting and and and doing different
things on boulevards rather than
[51:42] planting grass. And a perfect example is
the plants that they put down on the
[51:46] oneway and around the corner on 206. And
that is maybe an avenue that we um
[51:51] should be looking at. Um also that there
are many municipalities that have
[51:56] already done the work. So in in saying
that I think um there won't be a huge uh
[52:01] capital cost in the sense of like I
think the way that we should approach
[52:05] this and I'm going to ask um I don't
know how to do that this is this be um
[52:12] deferred not referred um to the
environmental sustainability committee
[52:18] because on that committee we have uh um
have hired um a sustainability
[52:24] coordinator that took some time to do
that and I think So you made a referral.
[52:30] » So seconded by councelor Alrech, please
continue on.
[52:33] » And I just and for the the good fortune
of uh our committee also with expertise
[52:39] that are on our committee. We have the
uh langly field naturalists that are sit
[52:43] on that committee and we have the mainly
environmental partnerships um who work
[52:47] extensively with invasive species and um
that's one of their their strategic
[52:54] goals that they do. So, I'm just like um
I I'm thank thank uh council Matt for
[52:59] bringing this forward. Um I just think
um in regards to uh it it might take
[53:05] some time um and looking at and and it's
ever changing like in reading Diamond
[53:11] Consulting's report is that they're
coming up with new ways. For instance,
[53:16] um cutting your grass too short is is
something that we we shouldn't be doing.
[53:20] It should grass should be at a it should
be at at higher, right? because they
[53:24] love it when it's really damp and and
then also when it comes to uh water
[53:30] restrictions, right? There's some
because you know between a certain time
[53:33] you're not allowed to be watering your
gu your your yard. So there's that
[53:37] pieces as well. So there's a lot of
different um things that we need to look
[53:42] at and wondering the expertise of that
committee and our sustainability
[53:45] coordinator and um Mr. to pull it that
maybe we can work on a community to move
[53:51] forward and and um take care of some of
this.
[53:54] » Okay. Um counc
>> um just speaking
[53:59] to council Wallace um to the referral um
I'm actually not opposed to the referral
[54:04] because I think that um as you've spoken
that it's a lot of expertise and I think
[54:08] that resources that we have especially
cost effective ones such as our
[54:11] committees. Um but the only um caveat
that I do have is that there are a
[54:16] couple of that clauses that I think
would be undermining maybe which is
[54:21] specifically um the cost to replace the
damaged city brass and the timeline to
[54:27] restore it to its prior state. I think
that might be challenging to fulfill on
[54:31] a committee level and then additionally
to get that information to replace the
[54:35] damaged city grass um with the financial
plan file by off. Um I so I wonder if
[54:41] maybe um there could be an option to
sever out some of the enactment clauses
[54:46] so that generally the motion and larger
mitigating measures which will take time
[54:50] are
>> so sorry please continue interrupt.
[54:55] » Yeah just just like so that it can be
sent away but we still can get the cost
[55:01] to actually replace the grass um so that
it's not you know in the state for an
[55:05] extended period of time and so we have
that budget. So, I'll add myself to the
[55:09] the speaking order. I haven't spoken yet
on this. So, I I'm supportive of the
[55:14] referral. I'm also mindful that if it's
referred, there's clauses in there that
[55:18] won't be able to be fulfilled. Um, that
uh is okay. It'll come back to council
[55:24] uh once it's done with recommendations
from the committee in this motion. So,
[55:28] you know, for me, you're supporting the
referral. I understand we're not going
[55:31] to get it in time for this budget, but I
also don't think this is something that
[55:34] we can rush through anyhow because
there's a ton of work on it and even the
[55:39] recommendations here may not be the
appropriate one. So for me, I'm
[55:43] supporting the referral for that reason,
mind blindfold that, you know, some of
[55:47] these things may not be able to be
action. So I see that council walls has
[55:52] your hands up and then council
>> and then and just speaking to the um
[55:56] that council direct staff to report back
to council regarding the required
[55:59] capital. Um
so I'm understanding like when I just
[56:03] spoke about doing things you know what
if it comes up as a strategic initiative
[56:09] um with with our committee that let's
look at boulevards and look let's look
[56:13] how we plant boulevards instead of
replacing grass. Let's te let's teach
[56:17] people that you know in your yards what
you you could be doing instead of grass.
[56:21] I think there's a lot of teachings and
learnings from this and yes it's a big
[56:24] concern. It looks horrible but I think
um in this in in the sense of
[56:30] we're trying to mitigate it and I mean
to eradicate it would be awesome but it
[56:35] it'll take some time. So I'm looking at
different ways. So going back to our
[56:40] committee and and seeing what we can do.
I think I I I agree.
[56:44] » Thank you. So, I'll give councelor Matt
the last word because I'm not seeing any
[56:48] other people with questions and then I
will call the referral motion.
[56:51] » Just a question. I know to put forward
an amendment to the referral motion.
[56:55] » Uh, it's a referral. So, you can amend
the referral as far as I know. Well, you
[57:00] can amend the refer
[57:07] you can amend the referral if there is
part of the referral part that you would
[57:12] want to change. I think that makes it
easier.
[57:15] » Uh,
right.
[57:21] Yes. So, you can amend as part of the
referral.
[57:24] » So, then I would move an amendment. Um
is that council um refer to or refer the
[57:32] first therefore be it resolved clause to
the environmental sustainability
[57:36] committee uh to consider mitigating
measures that can be implemented to
[57:41] assist us in u mitigating the impacts of
the shaker wheel.
[57:44] » Got it. Is there a seconder for that? So
seconded by councelor white. Any
[57:49] discussion on that? So see none the
question on the amendment. All those in
[57:53] favor of the amendment. Uh, all those
opposed to the amendment. Uh, so we're
[57:59] calling the amendment the the
>> wanting to leave the Oh, severing.
[58:04] » We're talking about severing. So,
>> are we talking No, I thought it was just
[58:07] one clause and
>> so we're talking about putting one
[58:10] clause forward and then discussing if
you want I mean procedurally it does the
[58:14] same thing will happen. You'll have the
opportunity to with what she's
[58:17] proposing. you will have the opportunity
to refer it and then it will come back
[58:21] with the main motion still where you can
get pricing for first and second
[58:25] reading. So if you want to go back and
get um so basically you're only
[58:31] referring one of the therefore clauses.
So you're not referring the other two
[58:36] which is that council direct staff to
report back council regarding the
[58:40] required capital and you're not
referring to the committee that council
[58:43] direct staff to present information in a
regular council meeting. So it's only
[58:48] about the strategies.
[58:54] » Yeah.
>> Um so then the amendment basically like
[58:56] I'm through um worship to council I'm
supportive um of having the
[59:03] sustainability committee look at this.
Um but I'm just trying to ensure that
[59:07] while we look at other mitigating
measures like even I've had residents um
[59:11] mention clover plants. I've had them
ref, you know, mention wild fl wild
[59:16] flowers. So, I think that all of that
can be considered. Um, however, I do
[59:21] think that, you know, for us to leave
the grass in its current state, um, for
[59:25] an extended period of time is
problematic. So, I think that this is a
[59:28] happy
middle road, middle of the road. So, the
[59:32] grass will get fixed and we can look at
some of our strategies long term, which
[59:35] we'll take more time. Uh,
>> I'm sorry to speak, but just because I I
[59:40] feel like I'm visualizing this. I can
see the cleanup around the grass, but I
[59:45] think it defeats the purpose of doing
the work with the environmental
[59:48] sustainability committee because we're
trying, as you said earlier, um, one of
[59:52] your goals is not to um have have extra
cost uh with the city. So if we could
[59:58] alleviate any extra costs in the sense
of like you know keeping it tidy and
[1:00:03] leaving it at the state I know it looks
awful um but we need to we need to do
[1:00:07] all of this in the in the right way. So
I will Yeah.
[1:00:12] » Okay. So for me for Oh councelor James
go ahead.
[1:00:16] » Yeah. Thank you Mr. Mayor. Um I just
wanted to offer up a bit of an
[1:00:21] experience. Um, I have experienced
Schaefer beetles and they are almost
[1:00:26] impossible to get rid of. I don't mean
that they are because we were actually
[1:00:30] able to do it. It took two full seasons,
constant treatments. Um, you can't just
[1:00:36] resaw over the the saw that's been
decimated because their eggs and
[1:00:40] everything are still in there. And
unless everyone in the neighborhood
[1:00:43] agrees to do the same thing, it doesn't
work because they'll just move around
[1:00:48] from from lawn to lawn. So, I agree with
what's being proposed. I also agree that
[1:00:54] the grass looks terrible when they've
been attacked by Schaefer beetles, but
[1:00:58] it's not an easy remediation. So, my
support is going to go to sending it to
[1:01:04] the environmental committee because this
has to be realistically looked at and
[1:01:08] not just this you can't put a band-aid
on this. This is a genuine real problem.
[1:01:13] So, and it's not just about residing the
areas. It's about the whole treatment
[1:01:17] capacity. So I just wanted to step in
because I have experienced them and it's
[1:01:21] uh way more work than a person who
hasn't experienced it would think it
[1:01:25] was. So thank you for the opportunity to
speak.
[1:01:28] » Um thank you Mr. Pollock on the
amendment. Yeah just to offer um one of
[1:01:36] the issues of the boulevards or
generally the responsibility properties.
[1:01:41] tire because there's been an ongoing
issue. I would suggest that staff
[1:01:45] can be directed to go in
tidy up the areas that are there and
[1:01:50] just to as as an interim measure as a
worth while that would be for some time
[1:01:57] for options to be discussed but I
certainly agree I agree with councelor
[1:02:01] James and that it's resol
the issue when I do
[1:02:08] the
things with the staff half going on
[1:02:13] places to clean up the area that be
disturbed and then um we address it
[1:02:20] address shortterm matter. So um there's
been few folks talking. I'll just add a
[1:02:26] thing and I think on the amendment part
we probably know where folks are going.
[1:02:30] Um, so for me, uh, I'll just say that,
um, I want to send the whole thing to
[1:02:35] the committee because I don't think, uh,
replanting the grass or repairing the
[1:02:41] damaged grass is going to lead to it
getting damaged again. And I feel like
[1:02:44] that might expend capital money that may
need to be expended again in the future.
[1:02:49] And I don't want to expend capital money
needlessly in my opinion. Uh, so that's
[1:02:55] why I just want to refer the whole
thing. I believe it is a worthy cause.
[1:02:58] It's very important. I've certainly seen
it, but I just don't want to rush the
[1:03:02] determination. So, um, we have like
another
[1:03:08] opportunity to discuss this. So,
>> um, I'm just going to call the question
[1:03:11] on the sending the one item which is the
amendment. So, all those in favor of the
[1:03:16] amendment.
>> All those opposed to the amendment. So,
[1:03:19] councelor James Wallace, uh,
uh, White and myself. So, that's
[1:03:25] defeated. So that brings us to the
referral and that's just referring the
[1:03:29] whole thing. Council me,
>> um I think that the only thing that I
[1:03:33] would want to um clarify is just that
this request that we get a cost estimate
[1:03:38] from staff um to look at what the cost
of um replacing the grass is. I do think
[1:03:45] that it's a short-term measure. However,
I do think generally speaking when we
[1:03:49] look at resident morale, community
pride, those are things that do have
[1:03:52] tremendous value that um do relate to
the overall presentation of our
[1:03:58] community. I think that this has a
direct like and a direct impact on
[1:04:03] grassroots how people perceive our
community and generally the maintenance
[1:04:06] that we put in I do think has an impact
on overall that community pride and
[1:04:12] overall well-being. Um, so again, it's
not to, you know, if all of a sudden we
[1:04:17] got it back and it's half a million
dollars to replace all the grass, I
[1:04:20] myself might be hardressed to pursue,
but right now we don't really have any
[1:04:24] cost estimates to replace some of the
most highest damage um highest damage
[1:04:31] sites. So I guess that my um my my
preference would be that um an
[1:04:36] alternative recommendation is put
forward um to consider the cost um in a
[1:04:41] timely manner or at least a timely
manner so they can consider the 2026
[1:04:45] financial plan.
>> Sorry um we're just talking to the
[1:04:50] referral right now. So
>> referring the whole thing. Sorry.
[1:04:53] » We're referring the whole thing.
>> I'm just talking about problems. I see.
[1:04:56] » Yeah. Got it. Got it. Okay. So,
councelor Albert or somebody else
[1:05:02] » councelor Albert.
>> Yeah. No, I you know like I again I
[1:05:07] appreciate this and I I really
appreciate the the attention given to
[1:05:13] community pride and you know like making
making sure our community looks good.
[1:05:18] But I hesitate to provide more food or
for a
[1:05:24] an invasive species in a location is
like perpetuating or making them
[1:05:29] stronger. So I'm I'm more inclined to
say, you know, like I'm I'm part of that
[1:05:34] committee that is being referred to and
will be given top attention uh when we
[1:05:40] when we come back together. I believe we
have a meeting in a couple weeks. So,
[1:05:44] uh, this is something that we'll put
back as top top item. Um, at the time of
[1:05:51] year as well, uh, I don't think there's
any rush to put any any grass. Um, most
[1:05:56] of the grass is is in a dormant state
right now anyways. And like I say, I
[1:06:01] just hesitate to spend money to feed the
bugs that we're trying to get rid of.
[1:06:06] So, um, I will be supporting the refer.
>> Okay. Councelor White.
[1:06:11] » Thank you, Mayor Bahal. Um I my my
thoughts on this are first I appreciate
[1:06:18] the to do a shortterm cleanup uh
certainly to address the appearance in
[1:06:26] the community. Um I I think given the uh
the extensive nature of this beetle
[1:06:36] infestation
is not something that's unique to Lane
[1:06:40] City. It is uh something that's
throughout all of Metro Vancouver as
[1:06:46] Counter Wallace mentioned and Albert. Um
and I think uh there are numerous
[1:06:53] approaches to mitigating and dealing
with this issue both from pest control
[1:06:59] to neato use to um alternate landscaping
to education and training for um
[1:07:08] individuals and uh I think uh we need a
comprehensive approach to it. I think uh
[1:07:16] there's learning that we can take from
other communities as well and so I for
[1:07:21] one would support the recommendation
going towards the sustainability.
[1:07:27] » Thank you.
>> I think we've had a good discussion on
[1:07:30] this. I'll call the question. All those
in favor
[1:07:34] there's none opposed. So that's
unanimous. Uh 12 A6.
[1:07:42] Um, so this uh motion is titled city
sanitation. Uh, same as before. Before I
[1:07:48] read it, I'll go see if I get a second
because I have um an amendment to the
[1:07:52] wording as provided by the chief cover
officer.
[1:07:55] » Yep. Seconded by Council Walls.
>> Okay. So then I will immediately move um
[1:07:59] that the wording be amended to read.
Whereas a council member has received
[1:08:05] regular complaints regarding the
quantity of trash strewn about the city.
[1:08:09] And whereas it is perceived that there
is more garbage littering the sidewalks
[1:08:13] and public spaces recently. And whereas
garbage littering our public spaces has
[1:08:18] the potential to affect community pride,
resident morale, and negatively impact
[1:08:22] how our community is perceived by
visitors. Therefore, be it resolved that
[1:08:26] council direct staff to provide council
with a report outlining the city's
[1:08:31] overall current strategy to sanitation
or overall current sanitation strategy
[1:08:36] to facilitate timely cleanup of trash in
city parks, public spaces, and along
[1:08:41] sidewalks.
[1:08:44] » Well, seconded by myself. Uh, and so on
the everybody's talking about the
[1:08:48] amendment now. [clears throat] Questions
on the amendment before we get into
[1:08:51] talking on the main thing. So, none on
the amendment. All the questions in
[1:08:54] favor if so there's none opposed
or you can talk she's the main so she
[1:09:02] can
>> all right
[1:09:05] second point
[1:09:17] right I've already generally I think
covered this um but I think probably to
[1:09:23] touch on um this middle point. I think
that uh council does have a need to
[1:09:27] consider overall capacity um with these
complaints being received by myself and
[1:09:32] potentially other um members of or
received by members of the public to
[1:09:37] myself and maybe other members of
council. Um so I think that a strategy
[1:09:41] to address waste in the city um as our
population grows as we approach Sky
[1:09:45] Train I think is really important and
potent for council to consider. Um, I
[1:09:49] went out on a five minute walk. I got
all of these photos. Um, I went back out
[1:09:55] a few days later. The trash was all
still there. So, the exact same
[1:09:59] situation as you see it um as it was.
This sticker um obviously uses our
[1:10:05] trademark. Our logo has offensive
photos. It's got a like a needle. It's
[1:10:10] got a bike with a tire missing and it
looks like it's been there for, you
[1:10:14] know, a couple years. Um, so I think
that, you know, that's problematic. Um,
[1:10:19] again, same five minute walk from, um,
the bus stop over to right across from
[1:10:24] city hall. Um, tons of garbage straight
about. Um, same site, same day. Garbage.
[1:10:34] Um, I have here um, garbage remained
there for days. Same site. There's even
[1:10:38] garbage. Um, you can see like it's here,
it's all here, it's here, it's here,
[1:10:42] it's here.
It's pretty much kind of the entire site
[1:10:45] and I see it. I have been noticing that
I've been getting complaints about in
[1:10:50] our public uh parks, our um like along
sidewalks and our public spaces. Um so I
[1:10:58] want to be very clear. I think that
staff are operating within the capacity
[1:11:01] that council is setting. Um I think that
however council needs to consider our
[1:11:06] overall capacity to ensure that staff
have the resources they need to clean
[1:11:10] our streets. I know that we've hired
many administrative positions so far
[1:11:15] this term. However, um I want to ensure
that we are looking at um how we can
[1:11:20] effectively get service delivery to um
residents is going to affect them and I
[1:11:24] guess grassroots improve the quality of
their life. Um whether it relate to
[1:11:28] community pride, whether it relates to
overall resident morale um or just
[1:11:32] cleanliness of our streets. Um I think
that it's how we present ourselves and
[1:11:35] we should be um doing our best and
assessing capacity where necessary. Um,
[1:11:41] and I think that it's necessary here.
So, I hope to be your support. Okay.
[1:11:45] » Thank you. Um, councelor Wallace and
then councelor.
[1:11:49] » Yeah. Um, I just want to say it's the
first time I I didn't realize that we
[1:11:53] could do powerpoints. We take that time
up and do that. So,
[1:11:56] » everybody has five minutes.
>> I didn't realize that. Um anyway, I
[1:12:03] wanted to ask a clarifying question um
to Miss Kenny in the sense when um we
[1:12:10] want to is it defer like give it to
refer? Sorry, I can't keep my wrong
[1:12:15] refer um to a committee.
Can you cross refer to to committees?
[1:12:21] Can you can you um refer to two
committees
[1:12:25] » or three for that matter?
>> Yes. So, I would like to refer because I
[1:12:30] do believe that uh uh Langley City does
take pride in the community and I think
[1:12:35] that uh um that there's a lot of people
working on this and um we refer it to
[1:12:42] our environmental sustainability
committee because it comes up in regards
[1:12:46] to waste management. We've done the um
the the dog waste pilot project.
[1:12:55] » You want to refer it to the um
environmental sustainability committee,
[1:13:01] the um arch committee
and
[1:13:07] the uh school leaison committee.
>> Okay. Is there a second? So seconded by
[1:13:13] councelor Alre. Do you want to speak?
>> Speak to it because I do believe I do
[1:13:18] believe that schools in our
neighborhoods take pride and that we
[1:13:23] should continue in the sense if we could
if uh councelor White and myself could
[1:13:27] bring it forward uh to a um say that is
a concern of um our council in regards
[1:13:36] to the litter that they can be part of
the uh solution and I believe they do.
[1:13:41] There's a lot of pride program um kind
of pride programs in schools and then
[1:13:46] also um the arch committee did have um
it is one of our tasks in our work plan
[1:13:53] that did come up in regards to that we
wanted to look at was the it used to be
[1:13:58] called point of pride and now they're
calling it adopt a park. So the point of
[1:14:03] pride would be as councelor Mack showed
you in one of her slides in the previous
[1:14:08] about the street of the year that was
part of the point of pride um program.
[1:14:14] So we are in discussion of um bringing
that back and then uh I think I and then
[1:14:20] sorry I spoke before in regards to the
environmental sustainability committee
[1:14:24] is that we're doing a lot of work in
regards to um environmental
[1:14:29] sustainability when it comes to waste
management and yes litter litter on the
[1:14:34] streets and one of the hardest things to
tackle is one of the photographs that um
[1:14:40] um council Matt did um show was I think
it
[1:14:44] um a road where there's probably drugs
that were happening. That's one of our
[1:14:49] things that we are trying to tackle and
it's very very hard um in regards to
[1:14:54] that cleanup and I think the city does
um a lot of clean up when it comes to
[1:14:59] bylaws. So I know that's a lot but I'm
speaking in the sense that I think that
[1:15:05] we have our committees for a reason and
I know that we're all taking pride. This
[1:15:10] is [clears throat] an area that we do
take pride in and uh I think it's
[1:15:14] important we back with our communities.
>> Awesome. Councelor Albert,
[1:15:19] » uh yeah, I'm I'm really glad that um
this has come forward. This it's been a
[1:15:24] problem for our environmental
sustainability committee as Rosemary
[1:15:28] Councelor Wallace has noted. Um, I know
we've got a uh a contract that is ending
[1:15:34] uh for our waist stream um uh bins and
and uh containers in the downtown core.
[1:15:41] We're looking at doing a whole different
strategy in the downtown. Uh staff are
[1:15:45] currently working on that. We're
bringing that forward as a committee. Uh
[1:15:49] we're hopeful to have that early in the
new year, uh I believe. And so we're
[1:15:54] really excited about trying to get
something done for our for our downtown
[1:15:59] and uh and bringing that u that
cleanliness aspect back to the
[1:16:04] community. At the same time, have an
effective way of recycling material
[1:16:10] rather than everything going into one
trash. So that those are those are key
[1:16:14] components that we're working towards.
Uh, I also, and again, I don't want to
[1:16:18] speak uh to something that uh councelor
James has better knowledge of, but I
[1:16:23] know the DLPA has a a cleanup program or
volunteers that help uh with the
[1:16:29] cleaning of the downtown. So, we'll be
coordinating all those kinds of works
[1:16:32] with our uh our work with the
environmental sustainability committee.
[1:16:37] And I know that this has been something
that has been oh probably their number
[1:16:42] one passion item uh for a couple years
now uh without making much success
[1:16:49] because of the current contract provider
um and and the limitations that we have.
[1:16:55] So I'll be supporting the referral.
>> Thank you. Uh I am I add myself to the
[1:17:00] speaking list. So uh I am also uh
supportive of the referral. I think
[1:17:04] there's a good opportunity to
collaborate and I'll give you a good
[1:17:08] example. So, uh, a lot of people were
throwing dog waste into Brien Creek and
[1:17:13] that's something that I did a request
for service with staff uh, just so that
[1:17:17] was on the file and then I talked to Mr.
Block and said, "Hey, I noticed this
[1:17:21] issue um, and I think other people did a
request for service as well and I know
[1:17:25] the city crews are really quick that
up." Uh and then um I talked to uh the
[1:17:31] environment committee and or the chair
anyways and then that was part of the
[1:17:36] thought for the pilot for the dog waste
bins were put there as a result and it
[1:17:41] certainly reduced uh that opportunity.
So I think there's other things where
[1:17:45] you can look at these hotspots. Again I
encourage everybody to actually do I do
[1:17:50] request for service because that's how
staff know how to clean things up. Uh,
[1:17:53] and in my experience when I've done a
request for service, it's been very
[1:17:58] quick to get that cleaned up. Um, but
maybe that's a bit of an aside. Uh, so
[1:18:02] I'm going to be supporting that just
because I think it'll bring a better
[1:18:05] outcome for an overall how we manage.
Um, so councelor Mac,
[1:18:10] » thank you. Um, I was in support of
referring the last um motion to
[1:18:16] committees. I think that of course I
don't want to diminish the value of
[1:18:19] committee. just spoke to the value that
I think um could be achieved by the
[1:18:24] previous referral. Um I do however think
that it is important that as members of
[1:18:29] council we take accountability and and
everything cannot just be outsourced to
[1:18:33] a committee or just sent away. Um this
feels like it's adding bureaucracy to
[1:18:39] something that we have to look at which
is aren't there enough people to
[1:18:42] actually clean up the garbage and are we
adequately staffing and that's a council
[1:18:46] responsibility that's you know there
might be other things that can be done
[1:18:49] point of pride program which will be
absolutely supportive there can also be
[1:18:53] um like you know in terms of actually
waste management where the waste goes
[1:18:57] however waste cleanup is our
responsibility as a municipality so
[1:19:02] going to the school district and saying
do you have people that want to
[1:19:04] volunteer here are are we stating as a
municipality that we don't have enough
[1:19:09] resources or we don't have the like we
don't we can't fund these positions for
[1:19:14] ourselves because that's not my
perception. My perception is that we
[1:19:18] need to look at it. Um I said when we
were up there we've hired many
[1:19:22] administrative positions. City admin has
gone up 44 point some odd percent per
[1:19:27] capita. um assuming the approval of the
2026 budget. It's a financial plan. Um
[1:19:34] it's we're hiring in certain areas and
we have over this council term. So I
[1:19:41] think it's important that as we're
looking at all of our investments, we're
[1:19:45] going are we making investments that
affect our residents lives? So I think
[1:19:49] this is an opportunity where instead of
referring away this motion and adding a
[1:19:56] little bit of bureaucracy from some I
think that we have the opportunity to
[1:20:00] address it now to give clear direction
to staff. I do not think that it is
[1:20:04] appropriate for this motion to be um
reverted away and I hope that ultimately
[1:20:08] respectfully um the referral isn't
supported so that we can continue to
[1:20:12] address um the actual motion because it
sounds like there's actually a lot of
[1:20:16] likemindedness in terms of but with
respect to this motion that it needs to
[1:20:20] be addressed just about what the best
way to do it is perhaps
[1:20:25] » so so in I guess the way that I look at
our community is that it takes a
[1:20:31] community to look after um the city,
right? So, we've had communities in
[1:20:37] bloom before. We've had the point of
pride program. We've had cleanups that
[1:20:42] happen in our in our crates uh by Lying
Environmental Partnerships that do it
[1:20:48] every year. Um we've have uh the get
around Earth, another cleanup that has
[1:20:54] been a yearly thing. So my thing is like
the reason why I'm not just uh referring
[1:21:01] things away. I'm referring it that we
all take a collective responsibility in
[1:21:06] looking after um our city because it
does it does create a um a point of
[1:21:12] pride. So, when I'm going into a school
district or a school, if I'm going to a
[1:21:16] liaison committee and I say, you know
what, we'd really like um your students
[1:21:20] to be involved in a pride uh point of
pride program in your school where
[1:21:25] they're looking after creeks, they're
looking after school grounds, and
[1:21:28] they're being conscious of of um what is
thrown away as far as the environmental
[1:21:33] impacts. So, you know, when you're
throwing um garbage or you know, other
[1:21:38] things into streams, how that it becomes
a learning of what can happen. So, my
[1:21:43] sense is like I'm, you know, I'm
thankful that you brought this forward,
[1:21:47] councelor Matt, but um in in in saving
costs in our city, I I I feel like in
[1:21:54] going we have we have staff that sit on
a committee, our committees.
[1:22:00] So, I feel like they they take on that
responsibility in in our environmental
[1:22:04] sustainability committee. We have two
staff that sit on a committee, right?
[1:22:08] So, and our committee. So, I'm just like
I'm really wanting to take a wholesome
[1:22:16] look at this and include as much as many
citizens as possible from very young to
[1:22:24] very old so that we all take
responsibility for having and a clean
[1:22:29] city.
>> So, I'm going to go Mr. Chong and I
[1:22:32] think this was a good discussion.
>> Yeah, thank you Mr. Certainly there are
[1:22:36] a lot of discussion obviously all of us
uh have you know take issue with state
[1:22:43] kidless in the city obviously we follow
those syndromes if there's an issue
[1:22:48] anything small we want to deal with it
otherwise it's going to get bigger and
[1:22:52] bigger um the fact of the matter is we
don't have a lot of complaints about
[1:22:55] litters we do litter pickup on regular
basis and any residents whether it's
[1:23:01] council Mac or anybody else can
certainly file a request for service to
[1:23:05] the city and our staff will be very
responsive. We'll go out and deal with
[1:23:09] the issue and I'm sure Mr. Paul and
staff if there's a overwhelming
[1:23:15] or need uh to do um you know more
additional pickup you will certainly
[1:23:20] submit a service level enhancement hire
additional staff to address those
[1:23:24] issues. So uh you know I think it's a
good discussion we need to address this
[1:23:29] issue and referring to the different
committees will give us those policy
[1:23:34] direction to look at this issue for
this.
[1:23:38] So with that I think I'll have a
question on all those in favor. Any
[1:23:43] opposed? So councelor might oppose. So
that's carried. So item 12 A7. Uh it's
[1:23:50] written here a second
for council re. So just some context.
[1:23:56] This isn't necessarily like a motion
that I put forward just because it was a
[1:24:01] conversation that I had with a few
members of council and I know this was a
[1:24:05] followup to the meeting that I wasn't
unable to attend uh unfortunately but uh
[1:24:11] I just wanted to get a group of council
to send it a letter for next steps
[1:24:14] because I know it's part of our
strategic priorities still and then
[1:24:18] hopefully get the signature telling us
some concrete action. So any discussion
[1:24:24] on that?
>> It's been moved and seconded
[1:24:29] by councelor Alre.
Any further discussion? Let's see none
[1:24:33] other question. All those in favor. So
that's carried unanimously. And so that
[1:24:38] brings us to the end. I move that we
adjourn. Seconded by M. Question. All
[1:24:42] those in favor. Any opposed? You're I
will see you all
[1:24:47] weeks.