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and we're going to start out by talking

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that is your cue I'm just used to those

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um so good good to see everyone this

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evening I know you guys have a busy

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agenda doing other things uh so we'll

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jump right into it and I'm going to hand

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it off to Katie she's got just an update

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on kind of where we are with the survey

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uh some people express interest in that

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uh on our coordination call a week or

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two ago so we're going to share with you

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where we're at today

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yeah so I put a few slides together

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they're really more so just placeholders

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for conversation

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um but give me one second I'll share my

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full screen okay

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so just a quick refresher on the

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schedule before we get into the survey

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we're in November this is actually the

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um will be conducting stakeholder

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um and we'll talk a little bit more

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um we're also preparing for a public

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meeting coming up in a few weeks so

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that's going to be uh really useful for

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us and help uh push the survey a little

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bit more and then we're kind of wrapping

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conservation land tool and assessment as

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um following the survey wrapping up as

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well as once the public meeting is

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so that's where we're at

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as far as our preliminary results from

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the survey we've got

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interactive map which is pretty good

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um and we've also had a decent amount of

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people engaging with the like feature on

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other people's locations so I think

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that'll be some really great like

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citizen science science for us to help

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kind of direct that conservation land

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assessment tool when the time comes so

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that's kind of where we're at as far as

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um results thus far and Carrie I think

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you wanted to talk a little bit about

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promoting the survey I know you've got

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the mailer going out

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um so I don't know if you want to jump

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sure we have a postcards that are ready

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to be nailed I think they got their

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check today for the postage down at the

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mailbox and so those should be going out

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uh to many thousands of households and

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then we still have

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um quite a few postcards left for

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distribution and we'll talk about that

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later on in the meeting

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um exactly what else you wanted me to

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cover at this point Katie nothing I just didn't I know I saw that

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promoting the survey was on the agenda

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some of that so maybe just keep forging

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ahead and I don't know

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um I'm expecting a pretty significant

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uptick in survey responses

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at 7 pm and our preliminary plan is just

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to go through a brief presentation of

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you know why this plan is important what

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to expect moving forward what to expect

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the results of this to be

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um touch a little bit on what we've

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heard so far from survey respondents

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discussing this vision for open space

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as needed and then um we'll kind of

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presentation that is easily translatable

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um but in order for John and I and

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everyone facilitating to be really

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for people in the building that night

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but that being said we wanted to offer

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for those who might not be comfortable

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Virtual Office hours come in the night

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offered to host those right before the

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town board meeting

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um so people will be able to come and

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um on that evening so those are kind of

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our multi-faceted approach to our first

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um John I don't know if you want to add

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anything to that or if anyone has any

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thoughts no I think you nailed it I

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always and and we've done this enough

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of the steering some of your CAC members

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CAC members to indicate whether they can

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to be there on the 15th

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York City has a nanny disappearing on

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babysit so that's what I'll be doing in

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to be way easier

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so it it's Tom Carey Karen Ed is that

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um are you going to show the results so

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looking over those uh you know what you

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bias are you getting people who are

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absolutely and along those lines uh it

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would be helpful for those CAC members

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who can assist that night in a sense of

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the responsibilities ahead of time what

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sense of okay how do you want to use us

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the call the meeting starts at seven

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my head if trying to think one town hall

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is gonna open and then it might make

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sense for the

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six or kd9 and the four or the five to

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huddle up beforehand and just kind of I

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mean we'll send something out in advance

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just kind of you know clip notes but it

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might make sense so how to walk just to

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make sure everyone's comfortable

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so what time town hall is going to close

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and open is going to be unlocked from

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the day these events I'm just curious I

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hear it just never closes there at the

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Town Hall it's just continually open CJ

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what do you think easy for us to meet

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ahead of time

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uh it depends on what when you were

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looking to get there uh so if you all

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wanted to meet say at I don't know 5 30

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or something like that we can just let

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you in the building the building closes

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at 4 pm every day uh Monday through

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Thursday

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I think six would probably be plenty I

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mean it's we're pretty good we can be

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set up in 10-15 minutes and then just

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going you know walking through with

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everyone kind of the plan B that'll take

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you know 15 20 minutes tops so I think

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you know six o'clock sharp is

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plenty of time

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so you're gonna have a PowerPoint

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presentation just

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that was our plan unless you guys were

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yeah mainly opposed to it no no that's

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fine

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um are we going to be able to see that a

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day or two ahead of time

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sure yeah

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great

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um how about refreshments

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I'm all for them I love refreshments

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and

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I want to take that

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on Tyson

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CJ does Town Hall have like a coffee

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maker I'm I don't mean like a single pot

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coffee maker I mean any kind of group

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facility not banquet facilities per se

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but like a large coffee maker or

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anything in town hall sometimes those

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sort of thing around there's a like a

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coffee service thing with tea and stuff

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like that in the

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guess I could characterize it perhaps as

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a break room

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so I don't know I'm not sure if that's

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what you guys are looking for but it

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makes hot water and if properly prepared

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of course coffee as well

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how about

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um something like some cider and

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little snacks

343
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I I know someone who's very good at

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getting donations and so I'm gonna a

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nice individual uh to see if we could

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possibly

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get some some refreshments at this event

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unless somebody else wants to do it I I

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will uh let's see what I can manage

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I could pick up some cider or whatever

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at the at the market for the before the

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Gathering

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okay so I'll I'll chat with you Tom okay

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we don't overlap

355
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that sounds good

356
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um I had a question about

357
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um numbers of postcards needed at this

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event just in case a few people come but

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they don't want to fill out the survey

360
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right then and there are we going to

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have paper copies of the survey or

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should we hand them the postcard that

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has the URL on it because we just so

364
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happen to have plenty

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I was looking for a full start

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I mean we could have a half a dozen a

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dozen hard copies there for people

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wanted it I don't think based on

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the pop-up event we had a lot of good

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conversations but um and then we had a

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couple people walk off with in a good

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way not want to steal it like walk off

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with a written survey but there wasn't

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that much of a demand for it most of the

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people said oh I'll look online now that

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I know

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um so I would lean towards having you

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know maybe a dozen hard copies and then

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just

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using the postcard at most

381
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so have maybe 50 on hand

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for postcards yeah at the most

383
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I think that's good because even if we

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let's say worst case scenario we ran out

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of postcards which would be a nice

386
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problem to have

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you could ask you can keep the last one

388
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and say hey just take a picture of this

389
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with your phone and now you've got the

390
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code for later

391
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okay and we can show the code on the

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screen Katie too and that way people

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need to

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take a shot of it with their phone they

395
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can yeah

396
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so we can bring a dozen surveys but yeah

397
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I think if you've got

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you know 50 postcards bring them on

399
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okay

400
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so it seems like one of the main things

401
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we want to get out of this meeting is uh

402
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locations that people think are are

403
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worth

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[Music]

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um

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protecting at some level

407
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correct and we want to inform them about

408
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what the process is you know

409
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um and it might you don't don't feel

410
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compelled but you know given this

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group's efforts to date it might make

412
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sense and it might be a nice touch if

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some if one or two with my group kind of

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talked about

415
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how we got to the point we're currently

416
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at I mean we've got a slide we can cover

417
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some of the history

418
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um but I think it always speaks better

419
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at the local people saying look this is

420
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what we've done and this is why I think

421
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it's important we can talk about why

422
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open space is important at a general

423
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level but in terms of Lansing you know

424
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how did this project come to be that'd

425
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be it'd be a nice anecdotal touch from

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one of your committee members but it's

427
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not required but I just think for those

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in attendance you know how do you get to

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this point Katie and I can cover it at a

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little higher level but you guys can be

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more personal

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so you have to commit right now but just

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think about that

434
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we we better get a commitment now

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because

436
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it just seems like we're all together

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and

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getting the commitment over emails a lot

439
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harder

440
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I recommend Tom

441
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foreign

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ER

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[Music]

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well I I since I am

445
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technically getting off of this

446
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committee I don't know if I'm the right

447
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person to do it but if nobody else wants

448
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to do it I can do it

449
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I mean I I

450
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hear it with you Tom if nobody else

451
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wants to but I just want to make sure

452
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everybody's given plenty of time to

453
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accept the opportunity

454
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we could work up something together if

455
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you if you want

456
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and it doesn't need to be much I mean

457
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Katie and I can talk about

458
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you know previous planning efforts and

459
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we'll have a slider too on some

460
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recommendations key ideas or key you

461
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know elements that have resonated with

462
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us so you guys don't need to be experts

463
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in everything that we're talking about

464
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and all the previous stuff even though

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you might be experts for everything but

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um you know just more again more of a

467
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how we got here you're not looking we're

468
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not looking I don't think it's necessary

469
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to speak to a ton of content but just

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more the the political motivation for

471
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this effort I think is kind of more

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important than

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um what recommendation on page 49 I'm

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not worried about that it's just more

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politically in

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community-wise how do we get here

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because not not ever not a lot of

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communities get to this point I mean

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there's there's not a lot of open space

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plans out there there's a handful but

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not many

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I totally agree John that it's very

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important for

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uh the public to hear from people in

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Lansing

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who are on the CAC so that they don't

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get some idea about this being imposed

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from the outside or you know I think

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that perception is very important that

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it you know it is a Grassroots thing and

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they need to see that

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and it's special you know whether they have reservations let's

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talk about that but they got to at least

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understand and appreciate you know where

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we're currently at which is no small

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task no small feat

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yeah I I I think uh an important message

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is that we're we're not here to uh take

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over people's properties

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or just we're just proposing what

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particular areas in Lansing are special

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and

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um we should the town should consider

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how how they might be protected without

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stomping on anybody's property rights

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foreign

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you know we don't we're not proposing

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any eminent domain or anything like that

509
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so should we leave it

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that you and I will do it Tom I at

511
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reservation I don't want to push you too

512
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much but maybe

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it's okay and that's somebody else wants

514
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to jump in

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um I'll just say I don't really want to

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do it because I don't know exactly how I

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would answer that question and the other

518
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reason is that I've already been um

519
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drafted into giving a talk the very

520
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evening before and I'd rather not have

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to think about preparing uh two

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statements for two late night meetings

523
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two evenings in a row if that's okay can

524
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I just you up

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um the evening before I got

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um drafted into a presentation for the

527
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Cayuga Bird Club about and the Ecuador

528
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bird trip that I went on so I didn't

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really want to do that either but they

530
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were desperate for people so I agreed to

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do it so I don't want to give two talks

532
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in a row yeah

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I I don't see this as really a talk it's

534
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just a few statements of what we're

535
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yeah yeah what we're doing

536
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I'm not even really sure how we did get

537
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here to be honest so we haven't been

538
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paying attention but I'd like to hear

539
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the answer to this question

540
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um well obviously I was here for this

541
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process but you know the long history of

542
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how we got here I don't feel qualified

543
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to talk about so I just you know there's

544
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so much backstory that I don't know

545
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well I think the short history is

546
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um you know we did a natural resources

547
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inventory for the town

548
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and then we did a Scenic resources

549
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inventory

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and

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you know anybody that's driven around

552
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this town realizes it's really a very

553
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nice place to live and uh there's a lot

554
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of really nice open land around here and

555
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most residents probably want to sort of

556
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keep it that way but how you know how do

557
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you do that this is sort of a systematic

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way of of assessing what's what's the

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most valuable properties

560
00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,840
or Parcels of land in Lansing I guess

561
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,600
that's the way I view it

562
00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:27,120
yeah it's a statement of policy and

563
00:23:27,120 --> 00:23:29,810
priority

564
00:23:29,820 --> 00:23:32,700
could we talk a bit about uh the vision

565
00:23:32,700 --> 00:23:35,220
for Distributing

566
00:23:35,220 --> 00:23:36,600
um the poster

567
00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,480
and maybe a little bit more PR around

568
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:43,799
that whether we want to try for another

569
00:23:43,799 --> 00:23:45,600
press release

570
00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:46,320
um

571
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:50,210
maybe with a picture

572
00:23:50,220 --> 00:23:53,100
my husband read the Tompkins weekly and

573
00:23:53,100 --> 00:23:55,500
pointed out to me he's a big Avid Reader

574
00:23:55,500 --> 00:23:58,020
of local papers that we got

575
00:23:58,020 --> 00:24:01,140
um we got in page seven uh of the

576
00:24:01,140 --> 00:24:04,740
October 26 issue input on conservation

577
00:24:04,740 --> 00:24:07,140
plans soughts they put in all that

578
00:24:07,140 --> 00:24:09,240
including CJ's phone number and

579
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:10,380
everything

580
00:24:10,380 --> 00:24:12,000
um but now I think we need another push

581
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,580
for the public

582
00:24:14,580 --> 00:24:15,780
um

583
00:24:15,780 --> 00:24:17,820
and you know that some of that could

584
00:24:17,820 --> 00:24:19,140
happen as we're

585
00:24:19,140 --> 00:24:20,940
thinking about places to bring the

586
00:24:20,940 --> 00:24:23,700
postcard around town and maybe we have

587
00:24:23,700 --> 00:24:26,100
some copies of this that

588
00:24:26,100 --> 00:24:28,620
um can go in those same locations

589
00:24:28,620 --> 00:24:30,960
but what what do you normally do Katie

590
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,179
and John with a poster like the one

591
00:24:33,179 --> 00:24:36,230
you're showing now

592
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:38,039
so first I think we put it on the town

593
00:24:38,039 --> 00:24:41,940
website so that's been done

594
00:24:41,940 --> 00:24:44,159
and then John sorry I didn't mean to cut

595
00:24:44,159 --> 00:24:46,140
you off nope I was saying you go first

596
00:24:46,140 --> 00:24:48,120
I'm just actually gonna check the Tom's

597
00:24:48,120 --> 00:24:50,059
website

598
00:24:50,059 --> 00:24:52,620
and then yeah I mean we would just

599
00:24:52,620 --> 00:24:55,039
encourage you guys to put it up wherever

600
00:24:55,039 --> 00:24:58,740
communities members are

601
00:24:58,740 --> 00:25:00,840
typically going to the library's Town

602
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,179
Hall obviously

603
00:25:03,179 --> 00:25:04,260
um

604
00:25:04,260 --> 00:25:07,020
any local businesses I mean

605
00:25:07,020 --> 00:25:09,840
the more places we we put at the better

606
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,059
chance we have that someone happening to

607
00:25:12,059 --> 00:25:13,500
look at it I know we're all bombarded

608
00:25:13,500 --> 00:25:17,630
with information these days but

609
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,980
um yeah I mean I think virtually is a

610
00:25:19,980 --> 00:25:21,539
really

611
00:25:21,539 --> 00:25:24,360
good option these days so if I think

612
00:25:24,360 --> 00:25:25,919
we've talked about

613
00:25:25,919 --> 00:25:28,380
using social media before I don't know

614
00:25:28,380 --> 00:25:30,960
if that's something the town supervisor

615
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,980
wants to put on his Facebook page or

616
00:25:33,980 --> 00:25:36,840
if there's I mean we could send it maybe

617
00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:40,380
through the schools list serve

618
00:25:40,380 --> 00:25:43,080
and I want to take advantage of that I

619
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:44,400
mean I know we've already used it for

620
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,039
the survey so

621
00:25:47,039 --> 00:25:48,659
um School listeners are called if

622
00:25:48,659 --> 00:25:50,520
they're

623
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:54,059
willing to and yes it's gone twice now

624
00:25:54,059 --> 00:25:58,549
include

625
00:25:58,559 --> 00:26:01,440
and it's uh the November 15th meeting

626
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:03,779
was included in that right CJ

627
00:26:03,779 --> 00:26:06,779
whatever was in the bullet points of the

628
00:26:06,779 --> 00:26:10,559
three things went to the lcsd

629
00:26:10,559 --> 00:26:13,500
if we uh created another press release

630
00:26:13,500 --> 00:26:15,960
for you could you send that out to your

631
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:17,880
venues CJ

632
00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:22,750
it's all about the meeting on the 15th

633
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,260
uh sure okay

634
00:26:25,260 --> 00:26:27,059
um

635
00:26:27,059 --> 00:26:29,640
I'm gonna be out on the 10th and then

636
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,100
the 11th we're closed so

637
00:26:32,100 --> 00:26:33,779
um if somebody can turn around a final

638
00:26:33,779 --> 00:26:35,820
version of that in the next

639
00:26:35,820 --> 00:26:38,760
couple few business days uh I don't see

640
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,529
why not I'll do my best and

641
00:26:42,539 --> 00:26:44,279
I'm pretty swamped right now but I will

642
00:26:44,279 --> 00:26:46,740
do my best

643
00:26:46,740 --> 00:26:48,480
yeah and I'm trying to think in terms of

644
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,360
you know what places in the town get the

645
00:26:51,360 --> 00:26:54,299
most foot traffic I mean the the Katie

646
00:26:54,299 --> 00:26:56,400
and I had lunch at That Pizza Place

647
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,919
um you know is there a brewery or bar or

648
00:26:58,919 --> 00:27:00,900
you know social Gathering Place

649
00:27:00,900 --> 00:27:02,880
um doesn't have to be alcohol related

650
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:04,980
um that you know any kind of places that

651
00:27:04,980 --> 00:27:06,840
could split traffic

652
00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,700
um you know that would be nice to put

653
00:27:08,700 --> 00:27:10,080
either an eight and a half by eleven or

654
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:12,240
along my 17

655
00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:15,900
um in the door you know at the checkout

656
00:27:15,900 --> 00:27:17,159
you know if they're willing to do that

657
00:27:17,159 --> 00:27:19,980
and most most local places in our

658
00:27:19,980 --> 00:27:21,240
experience have been pretty friendly

659
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:22,559
with that they'll you know put it in the

660
00:27:22,559 --> 00:27:24,539
window or something

661
00:27:24,539 --> 00:27:26,460
I just don't know the places in Lansing

662
00:27:26,460 --> 00:27:28,140
that get the most foot traffic for you

663
00:27:28,140 --> 00:27:29,760
know one for dinner or you know

664
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:30,840
throughout the day

665
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:32,760
in addition to the library and Town Hall

666
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:41,450
in public places

667
00:27:41,460 --> 00:27:43,440
well the Lansing Market I think would

668
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,200
get fair amount of traffic that would be

669
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:56,830
a good spot

670
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,880
Crossroads probably

671
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:04,140
Rose Harbor that's a market Crossroads

672
00:28:04,140 --> 00:28:06,900
Morabito yeah all of those places CJ

673
00:28:06,900 --> 00:28:14,930
would be good

674
00:28:14,940 --> 00:28:17,400
so

675
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:21,059
when would we put these up

676
00:28:21,059 --> 00:28:22,799
I think they go up at any time at any

677
00:28:22,799 --> 00:28:24,539
point in the next few days you know

678
00:28:24,539 --> 00:28:26,400
that's something that I don't think you

679
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,919
need to wait until we get closer you

680
00:28:28,919 --> 00:28:30,480
know if any I think in the next three to

681
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,240
five days would be fair game

682
00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:36,360
you know where what are we 12 days out

683
00:28:36,360 --> 00:28:38,880
so you know I'd say sooner the better

684
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,350
yeah

685
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,240
especially the brewery I mean just

686
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,460
they're gonna get so this weekend let's

687
00:28:47,460 --> 00:28:51,289
check in the calendar

688
00:28:51,299 --> 00:28:52,980
yes you have one more weekend as I

689
00:28:52,980 --> 00:28:54,720
thought so yeah just

690
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,460
um the next few days that would make

691
00:28:56,460 --> 00:28:58,140
sure that people on their busy days you

692
00:28:58,140 --> 00:29:00,360
know probably the 11th Saturday the 12th

693
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,179
you know they would be seen

694
00:29:03,179 --> 00:29:03,900
um

695
00:29:03,900 --> 00:29:05,820
but I'd say get them out as soon as you

696
00:29:05,820 --> 00:29:19,490
can starting tomorrow

697
00:29:19,500 --> 00:29:22,740
so we were putting up

698
00:29:22,740 --> 00:29:26,120
what's on the screen right now

699
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,690
to the right there

700
00:29:29,700 --> 00:29:31,140
yeah either eight and a half by eleven

701
00:29:31,140 --> 00:29:34,080
or if you can print 11 by 17 you know I

702
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,840
know some Community uh

703
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:38,700
I'm thinking that you know some of the

704
00:29:38,700 --> 00:29:40,200
window shops and stuff you guys don't

705
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:42,179
have you know a full traditional Main

706
00:29:42,179 --> 00:29:43,620
Street so

707
00:29:43,620 --> 00:29:45,539
um you guys want to have that luxury of

708
00:29:45,539 --> 00:29:46,740
store Furniture Store Furniture

709
00:29:46,740 --> 00:29:49,919
storefront all with this in the window

710
00:29:49,919 --> 00:29:52,380
um but the idea is the same I mean you

711
00:29:52,380 --> 00:29:55,140
can get it in some of these other places

712
00:29:55,140 --> 00:29:56,460
um

713
00:29:56,460 --> 00:29:58,919
Faith Community you know again I think

714
00:29:58,919 --> 00:30:01,740
announcing it in church tends to do well

715
00:30:01,740 --> 00:30:04,440
um or community events if any of you are

716
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:05,720
affiliated with any

717
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:08,399
churches or you know synagogues or any

718
00:30:08,399 --> 00:30:10,140
of that stuff that tends to bring people

719
00:30:10,140 --> 00:30:11,820
a good dependence out as well if they'll

720
00:30:11,820 --> 00:30:15,289
announce at a church

721
00:30:15,299 --> 00:30:18,480
actually Momos and North Lansing might

722
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,760
be another spot yeah that's a good one

723
00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,630
Chad

724
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,630
that was almost

725
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,649
it's a little restaurant yeah

726
00:30:30,659 --> 00:30:32,279
that's why I was guessing it sounds it

727
00:30:32,279 --> 00:30:36,710
sounds intriguing I like the name

728
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,299
um another thought to

729
00:30:39,299 --> 00:30:41,940
uh with Karen's question about pushback

730
00:30:41,940 --> 00:30:45,720
and then Tom mentioning that the intent

731
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,480
is not to steal anybody's rights or

732
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:52,640
anything like that from a standpoint of

733
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,320
landowners that's obviously going to be

734
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,240
key and

735
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:02,990
so the question I can see being asked is

736
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,880
if land isn't going to be

737
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:11,630
you know taken or you know

738
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,679
if if we're not going to infringe on

739
00:31:13,679 --> 00:31:16,440
people's rights then how

740
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,299
what are the mechanisms to accomplish

741
00:31:18,299 --> 00:31:20,399
the conservation

742
00:31:20,399 --> 00:31:22,020
you know for somebody that's interested

743
00:31:22,020 --> 00:31:25,200
in trying to do that yeah so to that end

744
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:28,320
John would it make sense to kind of walk

745
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,080
through uh one or two case studies on

746
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:33,659
how that's worked in other places

747
00:31:33,659 --> 00:31:34,919
um I mean I can I can talk in

748
00:31:34,919 --> 00:31:36,720
generalities all day long and that I

749
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:38,460
think that would be valuable but it

750
00:31:38,460 --> 00:31:39,960
might be more valuable to say you know

751
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:41,820
here are some examples

752
00:31:41,820 --> 00:31:44,159
um you know the re just for this group

753
00:31:44,159 --> 00:31:47,520
um I mean the easy scenario in a general

754
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,100
senses you know there it doesn't happen

755
00:31:50,100 --> 00:31:51,960
often but if there's been a handful of

756
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:53,399
times where

757
00:31:53,399 --> 00:31:56,700
concerned property owner A or B really

758
00:31:56,700 --> 00:31:58,440
cares about open space or Community

759
00:31:58,440 --> 00:31:59,820
character or whatever the motivation

760
00:31:59,820 --> 00:32:01,799
might be you know we'll come to a

761
00:32:01,799 --> 00:32:03,720
municipality and say Hey you know would

762
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:06,360
you support uh preserving my land but

763
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:09,120
it's it's not prime soils it's not

764
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,100
Scenic it doesn't really you know it

765
00:32:11,100 --> 00:32:12,720
doesn't have all lands not created equal

766
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,580
when it comes to open space preservation

767
00:32:14,580 --> 00:32:16,919
so this is one of those scenarios where

768
00:32:16,919 --> 00:32:19,320
this document will guide that decision

769
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:23,100
you know if if a landowner wants to do

770
00:32:23,100 --> 00:32:25,679
preservation for his or hers his or her

771
00:32:25,679 --> 00:32:28,140
own goals

772
00:32:28,140 --> 00:32:29,399
um this will help the town decide

773
00:32:29,399 --> 00:32:30,720
whether they want to try to be involved

774
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:32,039
with that or not

775
00:32:32,039 --> 00:32:36,059
okay and and like if say a property

776
00:32:36,059 --> 00:32:37,260
owner's

777
00:32:37,260 --> 00:32:40,559
property came up as something that a

778
00:32:40,559 --> 00:32:43,200
number of people saw and thought was

779
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,840
worth keeping

780
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:49,020
then how do you approach them you know

781
00:32:49,020 --> 00:32:52,850
if they're you know

782
00:32:52,860 --> 00:32:55,320
maybe they're mildly interested in

783
00:32:55,320 --> 00:32:56,880
conserving it or they think they're

784
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,500
already doing what they need or should

785
00:32:58,500 --> 00:33:00,720
be doing to conserve it

786
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:02,340
that you

787
00:33:02,340 --> 00:33:04,679
then it basically just kind of

788
00:33:04,679 --> 00:33:06,779
sits there and if it's already open and

789
00:33:06,779 --> 00:33:09,000
they're maintaining it as open space

790
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,179
then we're good yeah there's you know

791
00:33:12,179 --> 00:33:14,039
there's funding programs out there as

792
00:33:14,039 --> 00:33:16,860
well so there's scenario one you know

793
00:33:16,860 --> 00:33:18,600
there's there's open space preservation

794
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:20,460
funding through Albany

795
00:33:20,460 --> 00:33:22,260
um some land trust but mostly through

796
00:33:22,260 --> 00:33:26,700
Albany uh Farmland preservation and

797
00:33:26,700 --> 00:33:28,799
if the pro if this town is interested in

798
00:33:28,799 --> 00:33:31,019
pursuing that what are the top 10 I'm

799
00:33:31,019 --> 00:33:32,580
making that up because you know going

800
00:33:32,580 --> 00:33:34,260
back to David Letterman what are the top

801
00:33:34,260 --> 00:33:37,320
10 lists for open space in the town

802
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,659
um you know yeah finite dollars finite

803
00:33:39,659 --> 00:33:41,519
cracks at this grant you want to put

804
00:33:41,519 --> 00:33:43,200
your best foot forward

805
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:45,000
um so that property owner you mentioned

806
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,120
John is if his or her property is 20th

807
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:49,919
that's a different conversation than if

808
00:33:49,919 --> 00:33:52,679
his or her property was second on that

809
00:33:52,679 --> 00:33:56,519
list you know so I think John John just

810
00:33:56,519 --> 00:33:58,919
I just want to clarify too it was my

811
00:33:58,919 --> 00:34:01,980
understanding that we would be much

812
00:34:01,980 --> 00:34:03,080
um

813
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,880
higher more highly rated and competitive

814
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:09,300
for these types of Grants if we have the

815
00:34:09,300 --> 00:34:11,520
index and open space plan in place

816
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,740
rather than having it I mean that that

817
00:34:13,740 --> 00:34:15,300
kind of comes back to the whole question

818
00:34:15,300 --> 00:34:19,740
of what brought us here you know it's sort of circular but I think it's

819
00:34:19,740 --> 00:34:22,800
an important point to if it if it's true

820
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,020
which I think it is

821
00:34:25,020 --> 00:34:27,060
um that we would be more competitive to

822
00:34:27,060 --> 00:34:30,300
have if we had a plan in place 100 I

823
00:34:30,300 --> 00:34:32,220
mean it comes down you know Grant

824
00:34:32,220 --> 00:34:34,440
acquisition is a lot of it comes down to

825
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,000
readiness

826
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,760
and this would put you I think in the

827
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,879
best spot in terms of Readiness

828
00:34:41,879 --> 00:34:43,460
um we've got to get into some other

829
00:34:43,460 --> 00:34:46,080
Readiness factors indicators that we

830
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:47,700
haven't Katie and I haven't gotten into

831
00:34:47,700 --> 00:34:50,040
yet but that will go into this document

832
00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:51,899
but you know once this document is done

833
00:34:51,899 --> 00:34:55,139
and the process is completed you'll be

834
00:34:55,139 --> 00:34:57,900
in great shape for funding applications

835
00:34:57,900 --> 00:34:59,640
going forward regardless of the program

836
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,800
might be State might be Federal like the

837
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,080
environmental it might be Farmland you

838
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,720
know these these the funding sources

839
00:35:06,720 --> 00:35:09,180
change from year to year in terms of and

840
00:35:09,180 --> 00:35:11,280
sometimes there's more than one

841
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,800
um so yes I think it speaks this project

842
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,420
will speak to readiness

843
00:35:15,420 --> 00:35:17,520
yeah and that's important I think that's

844
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,859
an one of the important

845
00:35:19,859 --> 00:35:22,500
um talking points that we need to keep

846
00:35:22,500 --> 00:35:24,359
coming back to well why are you doing

847
00:35:24,359 --> 00:35:27,119
this why are you spending our tax money

848
00:35:27,119 --> 00:35:29,160
which is you know we got a grant for

849
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,020
this first of all so that question may

850
00:35:31,020 --> 00:35:34,800
come up about why are you using tax dollars to

851
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,500
do something I don't want done

852
00:35:37,500 --> 00:35:40,200
um but also

853
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:42,060
um

854
00:35:42,060 --> 00:35:44,640
the town of Lansing you know there are

855
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,640
parts of it that are uh people who are

856
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,220
traditionally not very much in favor of

857
00:35:50,220 --> 00:35:52,380
planning and this is a whole different

858
00:35:52,380 --> 00:35:54,900
way of thinking about things it's a very

859
00:35:54,900 --> 00:35:58,320
logical step-wise process and you know I

860
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,540
think we want to

861
00:36:00,540 --> 00:36:03,599
talk about it from a space of

862
00:36:03,599 --> 00:36:06,200
responsibility and

863
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:11,520
acknowledgment of a broad base of input

864
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,099
and comment if Comet are justification

865
00:36:14,099 --> 00:36:16,920
from a place of strength I would really

866
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:20,880
recommend against leading with the you

867
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:21,660
know

868
00:36:21,660 --> 00:36:23,940
placate the fears

869
00:36:23,940 --> 00:36:25,920
you know I think I think that makes us

870
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,440
look weak

871
00:36:28,440 --> 00:36:30,960
I mean we're anticipating that there are

872
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:32,280
going to be fears but I would not lead

873
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:33,660
with that at all

874
00:36:33,660 --> 00:36:35,359
foreign

875
00:36:35,359 --> 00:36:38,640
just be prepared when you get it this is

876
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:43,370
the idea yep

877
00:36:43,380 --> 00:36:45,060
because if you don't have answers to

878
00:36:45,060 --> 00:36:46,680
those questions when they're asked then

879
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,480
that doesn't look good either

880
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,060
yeah

881
00:36:51,060 --> 00:36:54,420
I mean would it make sense

882
00:36:54,420 --> 00:36:56,940
oh sorry go ahead John no this is going

883
00:36:56,940 --> 00:36:58,980
to say it sounds like an you know we've

884
00:36:58,980 --> 00:37:00,180
done this with other projects as well

885
00:37:00,180 --> 00:37:02,640
not just open space you know talk about

886
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,099
what are our goals or hopes for the

887
00:37:05,099 --> 00:37:07,200
project and then what this project does

888
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:08,099
not

889
00:37:08,099 --> 00:37:10,200
you know and this this project is you

890
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,079
know not a land grab uh per se you know

891
00:37:13,079 --> 00:37:16,200
that's it's it's um

892
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:19,140
but if but to Karen's Point here's all

893
00:37:19,140 --> 00:37:21,420
this is we're starting from here's the

894
00:37:21,420 --> 00:37:23,220
goals here's the positive here's why

895
00:37:23,220 --> 00:37:24,720
this makes sense environmentally

896
00:37:24,720 --> 00:37:26,760
Community character I mean all the

897
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,500
things that open space does for Lansing

898
00:37:28,500 --> 00:37:29,960
you know

899
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,300
staying that strongly proudly in the

900
00:37:33,300 --> 00:37:37,370
beginning I think Karen spot on

901
00:37:37,380 --> 00:37:39,180
yeah and along those lines it might be

902
00:37:39,180 --> 00:37:42,359
nice uh in the press release to have a a

903
00:37:42,359 --> 00:37:45,359
quote from you John Fleming something

904
00:37:45,359 --> 00:37:46,859
about

905
00:37:46,859 --> 00:37:52,250
maybe I'll call you up

906
00:37:52,260 --> 00:38:02,270
I think it's it's good to normalize it

907
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,460
so the list that we've now brainstormed

908
00:38:05,460 --> 00:38:08,160
for this public meeting number one is

909
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,040
uh and the places it can go uh similar

910
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,859
to the places where we could put the

911
00:38:13,859 --> 00:38:16,320
post extra postcards so we're kind of

912
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,300
dealing with that question

913
00:38:18,300 --> 00:38:21,000
um but we do need some worker beavers to

914
00:38:21,000 --> 00:38:23,940
get the poster and the postcards to

915
00:38:23,940 --> 00:38:26,579
these different locations

916
00:38:26,579 --> 00:38:27,240
um

917
00:38:27,240 --> 00:38:30,300
and I'm wondering if anybody's willing I

918
00:38:30,300 --> 00:38:32,280
have a list

919
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,400
um that I ran by Tom today of businesses

920
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,200
churches

921
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:39,720
um Library Town Hall village of Lansing

922
00:38:39,720 --> 00:38:42,900
all sorts of places and is there anybody

923
00:38:42,900 --> 00:38:44,820
who

924
00:38:44,820 --> 00:38:47,220
wants to make a go of you know maybe

925
00:38:47,220 --> 00:38:49,680
looking at the list and splitting it up

926
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,079
I can do some of the locations but I

927
00:38:52,079 --> 00:38:54,240
can't do all of them I think Tom you

928
00:38:54,240 --> 00:38:56,520
were willing to do some also

929
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,220
yeah I I think we should peer down the

930
00:38:59,220 --> 00:39:04,670
list some yeah

931
00:39:04,680 --> 00:39:07,260
quite a few but whoever takes it on

932
00:39:07,260 --> 00:39:09,540
maybe could be in charge of paring it

933
00:39:09,540 --> 00:39:11,460
down and

934
00:39:11,460 --> 00:39:13,520
uh just organizing

935
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,020
drop-offs and also maybe organizing how

936
00:39:16,020 --> 00:39:19,200
to get uh color copies of the of the

937
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:22,849
poster

938
00:39:22,859 --> 00:39:25,560
are you not providing uh copies and

939
00:39:25,560 --> 00:39:27,000
posters

940
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,060
or not you but I mean the town found in

941
00:39:30,060 --> 00:39:34,250
the town do that CJ

942
00:39:34,260 --> 00:39:35,940
what's what are you guys looking for

943
00:39:35,940 --> 00:39:38,160
copies of the posters

944
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,160
yeah that you had a stack of them

945
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,800
maybe I was thinking about the postcards

946
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,560
not the poster you don't have posters

947
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:50,040
yet but you do have postcards

948
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,079
there's one poster hanging in town hall

949
00:39:52,079 --> 00:39:53,940
on the cork board this one that you see

950
00:39:53,940 --> 00:39:57,890
right here you're invited

951
00:39:57,900 --> 00:40:00,720
can we get more printed off

952
00:40:00,720 --> 00:40:03,180
I guess that's maybe I got myself

953
00:40:03,180 --> 00:40:04,680
confused because I was looking at the

954
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:06,839
poster but do you mean you want us to

955
00:40:06,839 --> 00:40:09,420
distribute the postcards right the ones

956
00:40:09,420 --> 00:40:11,640
you already have a surplus of and and

957
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:13,859
the posters since we're gonna some of

958
00:40:13,859 --> 00:40:22,430
the places are gonna overlap

959
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,180
so I'm just wondering if there's

960
00:40:24,180 --> 00:40:25,740
somebody who wants to kind of take that

961
00:40:25,740 --> 00:40:28,690
on

962
00:40:28,700 --> 00:40:31,800
see in the next week if they can get the

963
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,079
postcards dropped off and and some of

964
00:40:34,079 --> 00:40:36,300
the posters put up

965
00:40:36,300 --> 00:40:38,640
so so are the posters printed and we

966
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,440
just picked up picked up and distribute

967
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:43,200
them or do we have to print them

968
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,780
they they have yet to be printed as far

969
00:40:45,780 --> 00:40:47,640
as I know I'm pretty sure there's just

970
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:53,760
one copy at the town I don't think I have access to a

971
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,740
I mean I could maybe access the one at

972
00:40:55,740 --> 00:40:57,180
the Cornell library but I don't think I

973
00:40:57,180 --> 00:40:59,040
really had I don't know if that's even

974
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:02,180
ethical but um

975
00:41:02,180 --> 00:41:06,420
CJ can can somebody stop by the town

976
00:41:06,420 --> 00:41:10,730
hall and print a bunch up

977
00:41:10,740 --> 00:41:14,339
uh so we can probably get those printed

978
00:41:14,339 --> 00:41:19,970
on Monday uh how many copies

979
00:41:19,980 --> 00:41:22,740
40.

980
00:41:22,740 --> 00:41:25,910
okay

981
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,599
and you have a new one to pick them up

982
00:41:27,599 --> 00:41:31,910
on Monday

983
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:35,520
Todd are you volunteering to do this

984
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,040
yeah I'd be happy to help out with this

985
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:39,599
but we kind of need to divvy up where

986
00:41:39,599 --> 00:41:43,440
the where were each Distributing these

987
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,900
things maybe I could show my screen

988
00:41:45,900 --> 00:41:47,599
because I have

989
00:41:47,599 --> 00:41:51,480
uh some other locations

990
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:53,160
um you know uh what we'll do is I'll

991
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,700
just print some first thing on Monday

992
00:41:56,700 --> 00:41:59,820
after our department meeting and put

993
00:41:59,820 --> 00:42:01,619
them in the uh

994
00:42:01,619 --> 00:42:03,780
we'll put them in the vestibule and

995
00:42:03,780 --> 00:42:06,119
they'll just say CAC public meeting

996
00:42:06,119 --> 00:42:08,339
flyers on it and then people can just

997
00:42:08,339 --> 00:42:10,140
grab however many they want out of the

998
00:42:10,140 --> 00:42:14,349
pile that sounds good

999
00:42:14,359 --> 00:42:18,720
that would really be great and I have

1000
00:42:18,720 --> 00:42:22,980
got an Excel spreadsheet started

1001
00:42:22,980 --> 00:42:25,740
with some of these locations obviously I

1002
00:42:25,740 --> 00:42:27,060
haven't added the ones that we came up

1003
00:42:27,060 --> 00:42:28,920
with tonight and then the bunch of

1004
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:30,240
businesses

1005
00:42:30,240 --> 00:42:32,220
from the Lansing

1006
00:42:32,220 --> 00:42:35,640
um .com website so yeah and you've got

1007
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:38,160
permission at all these locations no no

1008
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,619
just just pulled the list together today

1009
00:42:40,619 --> 00:42:41,640
after

1010
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:44,040
um brainstorming actually with CJ

1011
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:45,660
because I didn't know this list existed

1012
00:42:45,660 --> 00:42:48,359
until today but that's ones that are on

1013
00:42:48,359 --> 00:42:50,339
the website and then these are ones that

1014
00:42:50,339 --> 00:42:52,859
I came up with and then we can add uh

1015
00:42:52,859 --> 00:42:54,720
the ones you know like the Ridge and

1016
00:42:54,720 --> 00:42:56,220
things like that

1017
00:42:56,220 --> 00:42:57,720
um that we came up with

1018
00:42:57,720 --> 00:42:59,880
um tonight

1019
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:03,950
almost

1020
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,900
um so I I'm willing to add to it and

1021
00:43:06,900 --> 00:43:09,839
then send it to whoever

1022
00:43:09,839 --> 00:43:11,520
um might be willing to do some

1023
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:13,740
coordinating maybe two it's a two-person

1024
00:43:13,740 --> 00:43:15,599
job

1025
00:43:15,599 --> 00:43:19,790
um

1026
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,260
and I have all the postcards at my house

1027
00:43:22,260 --> 00:43:25,260
it's two large boxes so I think it's a

1028
00:43:25,260 --> 00:43:28,260
question of posters and postcards

1029
00:43:28,260 --> 00:43:29,579
because they have different information

1030
00:43:29,579 --> 00:43:32,650
on them

1031
00:43:32,660 --> 00:43:35,040
so you're going to want the poster and

1032
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,380
the postcards at the same locations I

1033
00:43:37,380 --> 00:43:40,200
think that would be great unless that

1034
00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:41,640
might be if we're gonna pick up the

1035
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,319
posters at Town Hall maybe if the

1036
00:43:43,319 --> 00:43:45,660
postcards could be there

1037
00:43:45,660 --> 00:43:48,119
we can drop the postcards off of town

1038
00:43:48,119 --> 00:43:49,319
hall

1039
00:43:49,319 --> 00:43:51,480
yeah anytime you can just put them in

1040
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,339
the vestibule and put a note on them and

1041
00:43:53,339 --> 00:43:54,960
then anyone can go in anytime those

1042
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,900
doors are always open the exterior yeah

1043
00:43:57,900 --> 00:43:59,819
that would be awesome and then it's just

1044
00:43:59,819 --> 00:44:01,560
a question of

1045
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:03,900
figuring out okay who's who's going to

1046
00:44:03,900 --> 00:44:05,579
take what

1047
00:44:05,579 --> 00:44:06,420
um

1048
00:44:06,420 --> 00:44:07,619
is that where you're going to have the

1049
00:44:07,619 --> 00:44:10,560
posters CJ and the vestibule you got it

1050
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,720
we'll just put it all you know uh

1051
00:44:12,720 --> 00:44:14,819
whatever comes first if the postcards

1052
00:44:14,819 --> 00:44:16,319
show up we'll just put the Flyers with

1053
00:44:16,319 --> 00:44:18,119
them and if the Flyers are out first and

1054
00:44:18,119 --> 00:44:19,680
then you bring the postcards on Monday

1055
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,260
morning or sometime they can just all be

1056
00:44:22,260 --> 00:44:24,000
together in a little corner there no one

1057
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:25,020
will

1058
00:44:25,020 --> 00:44:26,460
hopefully no one will bother them I

1059
00:44:26,460 --> 00:44:28,500
doubt if somebody will be monkeying with

1060
00:44:28,500 --> 00:44:30,599
them

1061
00:44:30,599 --> 00:44:32,040
well if someone takes them and

1062
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:33,740
distributes them then we're golden

1063
00:44:33,740 --> 00:44:39,170
okay great

1064
00:44:39,180 --> 00:44:40,800
yeah well I could certainly distribute

1065
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:42,119
some of them to some of those business

1066
00:44:42,119 --> 00:44:44,040
factors that the last one which is the

1067
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:45,599
dentist I have an appointment on on

1068
00:44:45,599 --> 00:44:48,060
Tuesday so I can easily take up there

1069
00:44:48,060 --> 00:44:51,119
that'd be awesome

1070
00:44:51,119 --> 00:44:51,960
well

1071
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:53,520
[Music]

1072
00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:57,060
um I I'm happy to forward uh fix up this

1073
00:44:57,060 --> 00:45:00,300
Excel spreadsheet and send it out and

1074
00:45:00,300 --> 00:45:03,180
there are 1700 extra postcards to work

1075
00:45:03,180 --> 00:45:05,339
with so we're just flush with postcards

1076
00:45:05,339 --> 00:45:06,440
another

1077
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,480
untapped resource is the school system

1078
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,400
and

1079
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:15,300
um it would be fabulous if somebody had

1080
00:45:15,300 --> 00:45:18,180
a contact at the school and we could

1081
00:45:18,180 --> 00:45:19,980
figure out a way to get science teachers

1082
00:45:19,980 --> 00:45:22,079
to hand these postcards to their kids

1083
00:45:22,079 --> 00:45:25,260
because we don't have I don't think any

1084
00:45:25,260 --> 00:45:27,240
respondents so far who are real

1085
00:45:27,240 --> 00:45:29,579
youngsters uh at least Katie you had

1086
00:45:29,579 --> 00:45:30,300
said

1087
00:45:30,300 --> 00:45:32,400
to your knowledge there really were no

1088
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:35,520
Youth and be so great

1089
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,020
um

1090
00:45:37,020 --> 00:45:39,660
someone's got a contact

1091
00:45:39,660 --> 00:45:40,800
UM

1092
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:42,660
lcsd

1093
00:45:42,660 --> 00:45:44,520
well my wife's the seventh grade biology

1094
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,040
teacher so I can that might be too young

1095
00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,200
for youth but I can ask her

1096
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,849
no it's not too young okay

1097
00:45:52,859 --> 00:45:54,599
you can put her in her office but she

1098
00:45:54,599 --> 00:45:56,940
might know who in the high school would

1099
00:45:56,940 --> 00:45:59,119
be also receptive

1100
00:45:59,119 --> 00:46:01,680
there you go that's my distribution I

1101
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,660
got my my chaos that's great

1102
00:46:03,660 --> 00:46:05,700
that would be great

1103
00:46:05,700 --> 00:46:08,880
so Todd are are you able to get them

1104
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,640
from the town hall for her or I can get

1105
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:12,900
them from the town hall I can also do

1106
00:46:12,900 --> 00:46:15,119
the Methodist Church that's I have easy

1107
00:46:15,119 --> 00:46:17,280
access to that

1108
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,880
um and I don't mind doing what I really

1109
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:21,839
don't want to do is I don't want to be

1110
00:46:21,839 --> 00:46:24,119
running to all the ends of Tompkins

1111
00:46:24,119 --> 00:46:26,880
County to just to deliver my if I can

1112
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:28,740
have a clump that's kind of I think

1113
00:46:28,740 --> 00:46:30,300
that's what we all want right if we want

1114
00:46:30,300 --> 00:46:31,560
to have like okay

1115
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:34,380
I can make all these stops in 20 minutes

1116
00:46:34,380 --> 00:46:35,400
or something

1117
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:40,079
awesome but yeah if you post that I'll sign up for the ones that I think

1118
00:46:40,079 --> 00:46:43,560
are the easiest for me to access no the

1119
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:46,079
library the school

1120
00:46:46,079 --> 00:46:48,720
the church I don't know maybe we can

1121
00:46:48,720 --> 00:46:49,740
start there

1122
00:46:49,740 --> 00:46:52,920
Library School Church okay and I think

1123
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:54,960
what we can do is if we have two people

1124
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:56,460
who want to do the same place we just

1125
00:46:56,460 --> 00:46:58,319
will do like leg wrestling to see who

1126
00:46:58,319 --> 00:47:01,809
gets to to do that one

1127
00:47:01,819 --> 00:47:05,210
all right

1128
00:47:05,220 --> 00:47:07,020
and I'm assuming a lot of these places

1129
00:47:07,020 --> 00:47:09,839
don't know where we have this list that

1130
00:47:09,839 --> 00:47:12,060
they're on right so it's you're kind of

1131
00:47:12,060 --> 00:47:14,579
it's going to be a cold call there

1132
00:47:14,579 --> 00:47:16,920
to see if they're willing

1133
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,339
it'll be based on your good looks John

1134
00:47:19,339 --> 00:47:24,230
so I think I think we're in

1135
00:47:24,240 --> 00:47:28,609
trouble

1136
00:47:28,619 --> 00:47:30,119
awesome

1137
00:47:30,119 --> 00:47:32,280
this is really

1138
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:38,510
a fabulous Blitz here

1139
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:40,680
so Carrie you're going to send out the

1140
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:42,240
list

1141
00:47:42,240 --> 00:47:44,400
and people are gonna

1142
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,859
mark

1143
00:47:46,859 --> 00:47:49,859
where they're going or are we gonna

1144
00:47:49,859 --> 00:47:53,099
try and post a list uh right where the

1145
00:47:53,099 --> 00:47:55,440
rate in the vestibule and people can

1146
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:57,180
mark

1147
00:47:57,180 --> 00:47:59,280
um where they're going how are we going

1148
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,819
to do this I think Robin suggested uh

1149
00:48:02,819 --> 00:48:04,740
Google Docs

1150
00:48:04,740 --> 00:48:07,380
yeah not everybody is always able to get

1151
00:48:07,380 --> 00:48:09,599
into the Google Docs

1152
00:48:09,599 --> 00:48:11,460
um

1153
00:48:11,460 --> 00:48:14,160
I realized probably don't have time to

1154
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,560
go through it here but

1155
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:18,660
um yeah I'm just suggesting that we not

1156
00:48:18,660 --> 00:48:21,359
get into the specifics right now just

1157
00:48:21,359 --> 00:48:22,920
looking at the time of who's going to

1158
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:26,000
drive what business

1159
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:30,180
why don't we include the uh a list with

1160
00:48:30,180 --> 00:48:32,940
that we put in the vestibule and then

1161
00:48:32,940 --> 00:48:35,220
when people go to pick things up they

1162
00:48:35,220 --> 00:48:39,140
can see who's already covered what

1163
00:48:39,140 --> 00:48:42,599
okay I think we need one person to

1164
00:48:42,599 --> 00:48:44,579
Shepherd it it sounds like Todd's

1165
00:48:44,579 --> 00:48:46,200
willing to do a certain number of things

1166
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:49,500
I put his name on those is there anybody

1167
00:48:49,500 --> 00:48:53,579
who can kind of Shepherd the whole thing

1168
00:48:53,579 --> 00:48:54,599
um

1169
00:48:54,599 --> 00:48:57,720
so that we we have the bases covered and

1170
00:48:57,720 --> 00:49:00,480
they can make sure that pile of

1171
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,940
postcards is decreasing and the pile of

1172
00:49:02,940 --> 00:49:07,670
posters is decreasing

1173
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:09,900
because I think without a champion it

1174
00:49:09,900 --> 00:49:17,109
could languish

1175
00:49:17,119 --> 00:49:20,579
I don't have any time until Wednesday

1176
00:49:20,579 --> 00:49:22,980
Thursday Friday of next week

1177
00:49:22,980 --> 00:49:24,540
as far as

1178
00:49:24,540 --> 00:49:32,510
what I have free

1179
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:36,839
I am likely out of town from Tuesday to

1180
00:49:36,839 --> 00:49:42,650
Friday or Saturday next week

1181
00:49:42,660 --> 00:49:43,920
okay why don't we find out who the

1182
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:45,359
people are that are going to distribute

1183
00:49:45,359 --> 00:49:46,800
and then that group can get together a

1184
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:48,180
couple of the plan of how they're going

1185
00:49:48,180 --> 00:49:49,800
to

1186
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:51,780
um organize themselves I think the idea

1187
00:49:51,780 --> 00:49:54,240
of when you've put them out at certain

1188
00:49:54,240 --> 00:49:55,260
places

1189
00:49:55,260 --> 00:49:57,300
put a note in the box that says these

1190
00:49:57,300 --> 00:49:58,619
places are covered so nobody has to

1191
00:49:58,619 --> 00:50:00,599
recover do them we can have it we can

1192
00:50:00,599 --> 00:50:02,780
have the sheet there

1193
00:50:02,780 --> 00:50:05,819
something like that but but yeah I think

1194
00:50:05,819 --> 00:50:07,560
for the bigger group if there's only

1195
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:08,880
like maybe four of us that do it let's

1196
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:10,920
have those four people organize

1197
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:11,940
themselves

1198
00:50:11,940 --> 00:50:15,780
okay so could that be you Todd and Ed

1199
00:50:15,780 --> 00:50:17,880
and John even John I know you're not

1200
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:19,619
good till next week at the end of the

1201
00:50:19,619 --> 00:50:21,540
week but that's okay I think it'd be

1202
00:50:21,540 --> 00:50:25,450
perfect I think Ed would be perfect yes

1203
00:50:25,460 --> 00:50:28,990
I seconded

1204
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:33,119
okay and we don't we don't have to go to

1205
00:50:33,119 --> 00:50:34,740
all of these places

1206
00:50:34,740 --> 00:50:37,380
that's right there's a list of 50 I mean

1207
00:50:37,380 --> 00:50:40,140
I think that's Overkill I'll send it out

1208
00:50:40,140 --> 00:50:43,560
to everybody we we will uh I'll send you

1209
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:46,800
the Excel spreadsheet and then uh John

1210
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:50,040
and Ed can keep adding people's names as

1211
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:52,619
they volunteer when they see it um and

1212
00:50:52,619 --> 00:50:57,420
otherwise they'll just make sure that uh that the cards and the posters

1213
00:50:57,420 --> 00:50:59,160
get where they need to and meanwhile it

1214
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,319
will all end up in the vestibule

1215
00:51:01,319 --> 00:51:03,480
um so that everybody has access and I

1216
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,339
think you'll be able to all be there by

1217
00:51:05,339 --> 00:51:07,440
the postcards can be there by uh

1218
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:08,880
tomorrow

1219
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,420
foreign

1220
00:51:11,420 --> 00:51:14,099
and hopefully we're gonna get a postcard

1221
00:51:14,099 --> 00:51:15,180
in the mail

1222
00:51:15,180 --> 00:51:17,460
for the next day or two

1223
00:51:17,460 --> 00:51:20,000
yes

1224
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:25,910
YMCA Robin awesome what what if we don't

1225
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:27,720
uh

1226
00:51:27,720 --> 00:51:29,339
if we don't get a postcard in the mail

1227
00:51:29,339 --> 00:51:32,579
yeah I mean that's that's really our

1228
00:51:32,579 --> 00:51:34,980
main way of communicating with this town

1229
00:51:34,980 --> 00:51:39,059
right now we are well uh if we don't get

1230
00:51:39,059 --> 00:51:41,160
it tomorrow or Saturday we'll get it

1231
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:45,530
Monday

1232
00:51:45,540 --> 00:51:48,000
yeah they'll still have eight days so

1233
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,099
okay here let me know when you drop them

1234
00:51:50,099 --> 00:51:51,300
off tomorrow because I might be able to

1235
00:51:51,300 --> 00:51:53,579
do some tomorrow and some on Monday

1236
00:51:53,579 --> 00:51:56,040
okay great it'll be

1237
00:51:56,040 --> 00:52:11,569
um by 10 o'clock AM

1238
00:52:11,579 --> 00:52:14,160
okay should we move on to the

1239
00:52:14,160 --> 00:52:17,040
stakeholder interviews did I just ask

1240
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,740
since we're we had left off with Katie

1241
00:52:19,740 --> 00:52:24,359
and uh John Steinmetz on the office

1242
00:52:24,359 --> 00:52:25,559
hours

1243
00:52:25,559 --> 00:52:28,559
for CJ we didn't quite cover that that's

1244
00:52:28,559 --> 00:52:30,960
going to be on the 16th

1245
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:31,380
[Music]

1246
00:52:31,380 --> 00:52:32,880
um

1247
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:36,720
is did I did I read properly that you

1248
00:52:36,720 --> 00:52:39,180
had written in the chat Todd that you're

1249
00:52:39,180 --> 00:52:42,000
going to be available on the 16th for

1250
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:45,359
the office hours with CJ or yeah it

1251
00:52:45,359 --> 00:52:46,500
sounded like we had we don't know how

1252
00:52:46,500 --> 00:52:48,119
many people are going to be there

1253
00:52:48,119 --> 00:52:50,040
I would hate to have more CAC people

1254
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:58,140
show up than actual participants so if that if uh John or Darcy or Katie can

1255
00:52:58,140 --> 00:52:58,859
um

1256
00:52:58,859 --> 00:53:01,260
send me an email and say hey look we've

1257
00:53:01,260 --> 00:53:02,700
got a lot of people I'll just jump down

1258
00:53:02,700 --> 00:53:04,740
there I'm

1259
00:53:04,740 --> 00:53:07,079
so so that's the 15th that's Tuesday

1260
00:53:07,079 --> 00:53:10,740
that's right but then Wednesday at 5 30.

1261
00:53:10,740 --> 00:53:14,819
the 16th and that's office hours with CJ

1262
00:53:14,819 --> 00:53:15,800
yeah

1263
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:20,099
just check 15th

1264
00:53:20,099 --> 00:53:23,579
it'd be it should be a Tuesday

1265
00:53:23,579 --> 00:53:26,640
and Wednesday so we have a we have quite

1266
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:28,500
a few CAC members who said they could do

1267
00:53:28,500 --> 00:53:31,140
the Tuesday thing Wednesday I think we

1268
00:53:31,140 --> 00:53:33,599
should have at least one CAC member

1269
00:53:33,599 --> 00:53:34,859
represent

1270
00:53:34,859 --> 00:53:37,800
along with CJ

1271
00:53:37,800 --> 00:53:39,540
um and I can't remember whether Katie or

1272
00:53:39,540 --> 00:53:44,339
John Steinmetz can um come but I know

1273
00:53:44,339 --> 00:53:46,920
you know just to have CJ there uh

1274
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,200
without a CAC person it seems a little

1275
00:53:49,200 --> 00:53:49,980
bit

1276
00:53:49,980 --> 00:53:51,599
um Wednesday actually works better for

1277
00:53:51,599 --> 00:53:53,640
me than Tuesday

1278
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:57,599
you want to join CJ office hours is that

1279
00:53:57,599 --> 00:53:58,740
what you were saying you needed somebody

1280
00:53:58,740 --> 00:54:02,220
for I think it would be great okay

1281
00:54:02,220 --> 00:54:04,920
CJ I'll join you on Wednesday the 15th

1282
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:06,599
send us a reminder so I get it on my

1283
00:54:06,599 --> 00:54:08,280
calendar

1284
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,040
yeah Carrie we can't we can't help out

1285
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,260
we've got a open house in Tonawanda that

1286
00:54:13,260 --> 00:54:17,329
night okay all right that's clear

1287
00:54:17,339 --> 00:54:19,440
I'm just gonna pop it right into our

1288
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:26,210
little chat here

1289
00:54:26,220 --> 00:54:28,319
and it looks like Robin uh said in the

1290
00:54:28,319 --> 00:54:31,500
chat she could switch to Wednesday

1291
00:54:31,500 --> 00:54:34,680
um all depends how many people we think

1292
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,260
we need for office hours for that I

1293
00:54:37,260 --> 00:54:41,339
thought on on the 16th

1294
00:54:41,339 --> 00:54:44,760
do you have a preference CJ

1295
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:47,339
uh no I've honestly thought that I was

1296
00:54:47,339 --> 00:54:49,500
just doing it by myself so yeah you

1297
00:54:49,500 --> 00:54:51,960
prefer Robin admit it

1298
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,900
I don't know I don't have any horse in

1299
00:54:54,900 --> 00:55:00,049
this race

1300
00:55:00,059 --> 00:55:02,579
sorry CJ go ahead no I just I can't do

1301
00:55:02,579 --> 00:55:04,380
four night meetings in a row that's a

1302
00:55:04,380 --> 00:55:07,020
personal policy so um so that's kind of

1303
00:55:07,020 --> 00:55:08,339
where I'm at I don't want to do three

1304
00:55:08,339 --> 00:55:15,710
things

1305
00:55:15,720 --> 00:55:18,180
might be more of us there are the public

1306
00:55:18,180 --> 00:55:20,280
and I I don't know if you'd rather have

1307
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,920
me there on Wednesday or or Tuesday but

1308
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:25,819
you don't get both so I mean welcome

1309
00:55:25,819 --> 00:55:28,559
yeah John feel free to correct me if I'm

1310
00:55:28,559 --> 00:55:31,079
wrong but I think we in person is

1311
00:55:31,079 --> 00:55:34,260
probably the more important

1312
00:55:34,260 --> 00:55:36,420
event to have CAC members because we're

1313
00:55:36,420 --> 00:55:38,640
going to be physically breaking up

1314
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:40,160
into groups

1315
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:43,200
I think I think you know one on the any

1316
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:45,480
kind of virtual call is fine I mean if

1317
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,819
you if you had two plus CJ that wouldn't

1318
00:55:47,819 --> 00:55:49,440
be the end of the world either

1319
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:50,819
um but I think out of the two I think

1320
00:55:50,819 --> 00:55:53,700
the in person would be more important

1321
00:55:53,700 --> 00:55:55,200
okay

1322
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:57,540
great so we want you

1323
00:55:57,540 --> 00:55:59,700
on the 15th Robin

1324
00:55:59,700 --> 00:56:02,059
okay

1325
00:56:02,059 --> 00:56:04,200
we have a white attendance Robin you can

1326
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:05,819
just talk about your bird presentation

1327
00:56:05,819 --> 00:56:07,980
from the late before you need to do it

1328
00:56:07,980 --> 00:56:09,859
twice

1329
00:56:09,859 --> 00:56:12,140
still be rehearsed from the night before

1330
00:56:12,140 --> 00:56:16,970
don't confuse her

1331
00:56:16,980 --> 00:56:18,480
sorry for the bunny trail but I think

1332
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:20,819
it's great to get the bases covered

1333
00:56:20,819 --> 00:56:24,599
and uh so now back to stakeholder

1334
00:56:24,599 --> 00:56:27,300
meetings Katie thanks okay

1335
00:56:27,300 --> 00:56:28,980
yeah so we'll just take like five more

1336
00:56:28,980 --> 00:56:30,059
minutes of your time because I know

1337
00:56:30,059 --> 00:56:31,319
you've got a lot on your plate tonight

1338
00:56:31,319 --> 00:56:32,760
so

1339
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:35,040
um we have reached out to stakeholders

1340
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:38,520
we reached out starting mid-october

1341
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:41,099
um to the individuals that we identified

1342
00:56:41,099 --> 00:56:42,599
within the four groups which are

1343
00:56:42,599 --> 00:56:45,300
agriculture local business

1344
00:56:45,300 --> 00:56:48,180
um environmental and local agencies and

1345
00:56:48,180 --> 00:56:50,339
reached out about setting up separate

1346
00:56:50,339 --> 00:56:53,339
meetings we didn't get a lot of feedback

1347
00:56:53,339 --> 00:56:55,200
reached out again still really haven't

1348
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:58,559
heard back and so what John and I um in

1349
00:56:58,559 --> 00:56:59,940
conversation with

1350
00:56:59,940 --> 00:57:03,059
um a few CAC members were proposed to do

1351
00:57:03,059 --> 00:57:06,240
and got signed off from CJ and and the

1352
00:57:06,240 --> 00:57:08,520
crew is to have kind of more of an open

1353
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:11,880
house style format to maximize the

1354
00:57:11,880 --> 00:57:15,059
amount of time that we have available

1355
00:57:15,059 --> 00:57:17,280
for people to speak with us so the idea

1356
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,319
is that we'll have

1357
00:57:19,319 --> 00:57:21,839
a four-hour session and from the late

1358
00:57:21,839 --> 00:57:24,660
afternoon into the evening on

1359
00:57:24,660 --> 00:57:27,720
Tuesday November 8th which is coming up

1360
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:30,119
shortly and then

1361
00:57:30,119 --> 00:57:32,400
um more of a morning afternoon session

1362
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:35,460
on Wednesday

1363
00:57:35,460 --> 00:57:38,099
um from ten to one so we reached out

1364
00:57:38,099 --> 00:57:40,380
about that to all of our stakeholders

1365
00:57:40,380 --> 00:57:42,240
there's about

1366
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:46,380
just a little under 30 of them in total

1367
00:57:46,380 --> 00:57:49,140
um and we still have only heard from

1368
00:57:49,140 --> 00:57:51,780
three people so

1369
00:57:51,780 --> 00:57:53,940
um at this point I think

1370
00:57:53,940 --> 00:57:55,140
um

1371
00:57:55,140 --> 00:57:58,020
this is we could do some help with

1372
00:57:58,020 --> 00:58:02,520
having people reach out via phone I

1373
00:58:02,520 --> 00:58:04,200
think if someone hears from someone they

1374
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,599
know personally it might help

1375
00:58:06,599 --> 00:58:07,260
um

1376
00:58:07,260 --> 00:58:09,240
get a response from them

1377
00:58:09,240 --> 00:58:10,440
um John I don't know if you want to add

1378
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:12,770
anything

1379
00:58:12,780 --> 00:58:15,000
no it's it's um

1380
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:17,460
yeah any any traction you can help us

1381
00:58:17,460 --> 00:58:20,160
would be good you know and initially we

1382
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:22,200
had talked about and worked more is fine

1383
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:24,000
but we you know we each typically figure

1384
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:25,260
well if we can talk to four to six

1385
00:58:25,260 --> 00:58:27,000
people that'd be great

1386
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:28,800
um you know four became 30 which means

1387
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:30,960
focus groups which is fine but when we

1388
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:32,760
start to go from Individual calls to

1389
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:35,460
groups and we need your help because you

1390
00:58:35,460 --> 00:58:36,900
know right now at least in Lansing we're

1391
00:58:36,900 --> 00:58:39,839
having a hard time getting groups set up

1392
00:58:39,839 --> 00:58:42,599
um you know so any advice you can give

1393
00:58:42,599 --> 00:58:49,990
us would be helpful on this one

1394
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:54,240
can can you send us a list of

1395
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:57,299
the stakeholders and who has

1396
00:58:57,299 --> 00:58:59,579
committed and who hasn't

1397
00:58:59,579 --> 00:59:02,280
yeah so I was going to suggest

1398
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:04,680
um that I can send out a list of who

1399
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:06,540
hasn't responded and if people want to

1400
00:59:06,540 --> 00:59:08,579
take one or two of those people just to

1401
00:59:08,579 --> 00:59:09,780
give them a call if you know them

1402
00:59:09,780 --> 00:59:12,000
personally great

1403
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:15,119
um and then uh we'll do the best we can

1404
00:59:15,119 --> 00:59:17,160
to continue to try to reach out to

1405
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:19,020
people in advance of next week so that

1406
00:59:19,020 --> 00:59:20,940
we can kind of maximize participation

1407
00:59:20,940 --> 00:59:23,760
but yeah I can send that out Tom and

1408
00:59:23,760 --> 00:59:26,040
then I don't know sounds like Google

1409
00:59:26,040 --> 00:59:29,280
Docs isn't the right way to go

1410
00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:31,799
if we just want to do a via email chain

1411
00:59:31,799 --> 00:59:33,299
that's fine

1412
00:59:33,299 --> 00:59:34,319
um

1413
00:59:34,319 --> 00:59:35,700
and then we can just kind of go from

1414
00:59:35,700 --> 00:59:36,720
there

1415
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:39,540
and can you put the dates and times of

1416
00:59:39,540 --> 00:59:41,579
those two sessions right with that so

1417
00:59:41,579 --> 00:59:43,020
yep

1418
00:59:43,020 --> 00:59:45,299
thank you

1419
00:59:45,299 --> 00:59:47,640
and more flexible I mean and a little

1420
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:50,040
desperate at this point so if it's a

1421
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:52,500
situation where you know Tom you talk to

1422
00:59:52,500 --> 00:59:54,780
someone and he or she says well I'm

1423
00:59:54,780 --> 00:59:56,220
really not comfortable talking in a

1424
00:59:56,220 --> 00:59:58,559
group if someone would call me I'd be

1425
00:59:58,559 --> 01:00:02,059
happy with a conversation so I mean if

1426
01:00:02,059 --> 01:00:04,619
Katie has to do the you know not has to

1427
01:00:04,619 --> 01:00:06,660
if Katie does the people in the room and

1428
01:00:06,660 --> 01:00:07,859
I need to make calls during that time

1429
01:00:07,859 --> 01:00:09,359
period that's fine we just don't want to

1430
01:00:09,359 --> 01:00:11,040
be calling 30 people if we can help it

1431
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:12,720
that's not really an efficient sort of

1432
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:13,680
time

1433
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:15,299
um but right now we just want to have

1434
01:00:15,299 --> 01:00:17,460
some conversations so

1435
01:00:17,460 --> 01:00:19,020
um bikers can't be choosers so if

1436
01:00:19,020 --> 01:00:21,839
there's one or two people that that it's

1437
01:00:21,839 --> 01:00:23,760
just better for me to call them that's

1438
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:25,980
fine too I can't call 30 but I can speak

1439
01:00:25,980 --> 01:00:28,500
for one or two if we can get a good

1440
01:00:28,500 --> 01:00:30,660
portion of 30 to join us during these

1441
01:00:30,660 --> 01:00:32,280
open house office hours that would be

1442
01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:35,940
really helpful so you know any however

1443
01:00:35,940 --> 01:00:37,020
we got to reach out to these people

1444
01:00:37,020 --> 01:00:39,299
we're happy to do it but if you can kind

1445
01:00:39,299 --> 01:00:42,180
of motivate people to join us next 2010

1446
01:00:42,180 --> 01:00:43,440
Wednesday Thursday I don't want to say

1447
01:00:43,440 --> 01:00:46,730
the wrong thing Katie

1448
01:00:46,740 --> 01:00:51,299
that'd be great okay I will I will send

1449
01:00:51,299 --> 01:00:53,700
a note like I said I would but I just

1450
01:00:53,700 --> 01:00:55,500
was waiting to kind of get the go ahead

1451
01:00:55,500 --> 01:00:59,880
on this to to Hillary Lambert and to gay

1452
01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:01,920
Nicholson and you know if you can let me

1453
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:06,010
know who else is on the Environmental

1454
01:01:06,020 --> 01:01:09,480
stakeholder group I can do that I'm

1455
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:11,880
sorry I think we should pull up the list

1456
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:14,760
now because this is this is next Tuesday

1457
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:16,440
and Wednesday

1458
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:19,500
and so we although they can have those

1459
01:01:19,500 --> 01:01:22,200
conversations later

1460
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:24,440
I mean it could happen

1461
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:26,400
aren't you trying to get them together

1462
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:29,700
on those days if possible if possible

1463
01:01:29,700 --> 01:01:32,460
it's always nice to do the stakeholder

1464
01:01:32,460 --> 01:01:35,099
stuff before the first public meeting

1465
01:01:35,099 --> 01:01:36,780
um at least some of them it just kind of

1466
01:01:36,780 --> 01:01:38,040
helps us understand some of the hot

1467
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:41,099
button issues and it's not uncommon then

1468
01:01:41,099 --> 01:01:42,900
to have some of those triple later into

1469
01:01:42,900 --> 01:01:45,960
the process but yeah we could have some

1470
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:46,559
um

1471
01:01:46,559 --> 01:01:48,720
pick a date and have a conversation you

1472
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:50,040
know ideally next week that would be

1473
01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:51,420
great with some of these folks doesn't

1474
01:01:51,420 --> 01:01:52,980
have to be all of them but hopefully

1475
01:01:52,980 --> 01:01:55,260
some of them I mean is it possible just

1476
01:01:55,260 --> 01:01:57,599
to pop up the list and yeah let me pop

1477
01:01:57,599 --> 01:01:59,040
up the list and then if people want to

1478
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:03,829
just throw in the chat or

1479
01:02:03,839 --> 01:02:05,160
um

1480
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,079
just let me know who they want to reach

1481
01:02:07,079 --> 01:02:08,400
out to that'd be great I mean because

1482
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:10,440
you've been you've been nudging without

1483
01:02:10,440 --> 01:02:13,079
much success and we we need to help you

1484
01:02:13,079 --> 01:02:17,099
now okay so that's the can you see that

1485
01:02:17,099 --> 01:02:19,380
yeah okay great so that's the list

1486
01:02:19,380 --> 01:02:25,130
breaking up broken out by Focus Group

1487
01:02:25,140 --> 01:02:27,020
so have you heard

1488
01:02:27,020 --> 01:02:29,280
these are all people who have yet to

1489
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:31,260
respond

1490
01:02:31,260 --> 01:02:35,760
so I I could ping Andy Zepp okay great

1491
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:38,339
okay and I will all right let me write

1492
01:02:38,339 --> 01:02:43,140
this down Jody and Katrina Roger

1493
01:02:43,140 --> 01:02:45,240
all of them

1494
01:02:45,240 --> 01:02:47,280
um Candace is

1495
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:50,160
had covered for the last three weeks so

1496
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:56,329
I doubt that she's gonna

1497
01:02:56,339 --> 01:02:59,450
Jody

1498
01:02:59,460 --> 01:03:00,560
Katrina

1499
01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:08,510
[Music]

1500
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:11,400
okay and would you do me I'm I'm really

1501
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:14,400
sorry to ask for this but I'm on my iPad

1502
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:17,579
and I can't see the office hours can you

1503
01:03:17,579 --> 01:03:19,859
just tell me again when they are

1504
01:03:19,859 --> 01:03:22,500
yeah so they're I could shoot you an

1505
01:03:22,500 --> 01:03:24,599
email too Karen but they're

1506
01:03:24,599 --> 01:03:28,220
um Tuesday the 8th from three to seven

1507
01:03:28,220 --> 01:03:35,040
and Wednesday the 9th from 10 to 1.

1508
01:03:35,040 --> 01:03:37,740
and we're asking people to show up on

1509
01:03:37,740 --> 01:03:40,260
the hour so we're gonna have that whole

1510
01:03:40,260 --> 01:03:42,839
session open but ideally we'll I mean

1511
01:03:42,839 --> 01:03:44,339
we'll we'll talk to anyone who shows up

1512
01:03:44,339 --> 01:03:46,260
at any time obviously but ideally

1513
01:03:46,260 --> 01:03:50,040
someone would show up at the top of the hour and then what we

1514
01:03:50,040 --> 01:03:52,140
will talk to whoever's there for that

1515
01:03:52,140 --> 01:03:54,289
hour

1516
01:03:54,299 --> 01:03:58,260
yeah I mean I I think that you know

1517
01:03:58,260 --> 01:04:00,480
most of these people

1518
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:03,599
are really just sick and tired of being

1519
01:04:03,599 --> 01:04:05,940
yelled at by anti-environmentalists and

1520
01:04:05,940 --> 01:04:09,960
they will avoid a sort of a free-for-all

1521
01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:12,540
with people that they are not on the

1522
01:04:12,540 --> 01:04:14,400
same team with

1523
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:17,579
um I certainly wouldn't want to do that

1524
01:04:17,579 --> 01:04:19,079
myself

1525
01:04:19,079 --> 01:04:21,180
um and I think they're just very likely

1526
01:04:21,180 --> 01:04:22,619
either going to want to all be in the

1527
01:04:22,619 --> 01:04:27,240
same room together or talk one-on-one

1528
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:27,960
um

1529
01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:31,020
I know that it's it's that's that's not

1530
01:04:31,020 --> 01:04:32,460
what you want to hear but I think this

1531
01:04:32,460 --> 01:04:34,079
is what we were trying to avoid in the

1532
01:04:34,079 --> 01:04:37,260
first place by sort of uh

1533
01:04:37,260 --> 01:04:39,480
having these different these these

1534
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:42,119
groups yeah and I yeah I get that Karen

1535
01:04:42,119 --> 01:04:44,579
and I I understand completely I think

1536
01:04:44,579 --> 01:04:46,200
it's just been it's been a challenge for

1537
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:47,160
us to

1538
01:04:47,160 --> 01:04:49,799
just coordinate quite frankly so I think

1539
01:04:49,799 --> 01:04:52,440
we're just trying to talk to people as

1540
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:54,059
soon as we can in the most efficient way

1541
01:04:54,059 --> 01:04:55,579
possible

1542
01:04:55,579 --> 01:04:58,319
if someone wants to have that one-on-one

1543
01:04:58,319 --> 01:04:59,579
conversation

1544
01:04:59,579 --> 01:05:00,900
um we can make that happen

1545
01:05:00,900 --> 01:05:02,940
well that's that's the thing you know

1546
01:05:02,940 --> 01:05:04,920
that that I'm offering too and I think I

1547
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:06,780
did mention this before is that if you

1548
01:05:06,780 --> 01:05:10,079
have that list of questions I would be

1549
01:05:10,079 --> 01:05:12,000
understanding that you have just got a

1550
01:05:12,000 --> 01:05:14,220
ton of stuff on your plate I could have

1551
01:05:14,220 --> 01:05:16,799
these one-on-one conversations if I had

1552
01:05:16,799 --> 01:05:19,500
the consistent

1553
01:05:19,500 --> 01:05:20,880
prompts

1554
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:22,680
if you want to call it

1555
01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:25,200
um that that would guide in the

1556
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:26,579
information that you're trying to

1557
01:05:26,579 --> 01:05:28,980
collect so I mean that's

1558
01:05:28,980 --> 01:05:33,420
okay yeah yes that's what I can offer

1559
01:05:33,420 --> 01:05:37,559
so let's and Karen feel free to chime in

1560
01:05:37,559 --> 01:05:40,920
and just say forget plan a but plan a

1561
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:43,140
um gaming I don't have a problem if you

1562
01:05:43,140 --> 01:05:44,520
can talk to those folks in the next

1563
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:47,280
couple days if we can designate one of

1564
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:49,260
those times to those folks

1565
01:05:49,260 --> 01:05:51,420
you know if we needed to you know we

1566
01:05:51,420 --> 01:05:53,940
could say look it we're gonna

1567
01:05:53,940 --> 01:05:56,640
the first time slot on whatever day is

1568
01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:58,619
just from environmental folks that's

1569
01:05:58,619 --> 01:06:00,900
easy if we could get all them to say you

1570
01:06:00,900 --> 01:06:02,280
know

1571
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:04,799
day one or day two is better for most of

1572
01:06:04,799 --> 01:06:07,680
us we'll take it you know and if that

1573
01:06:07,680 --> 01:06:09,720
doesn't work then if um having you kind

1574
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:11,240
of reach out to them

1575
01:06:11,240 --> 01:06:13,380
one-on-one or you know one on two or

1576
01:06:13,380 --> 01:06:15,240
whatever the case may be we'll take you

1577
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:17,220
up on that

1578
01:06:17,220 --> 01:06:20,280
they can commit to not all six of them

1579
01:06:20,280 --> 01:06:22,079
but if we can get a handful of them to

1580
01:06:22,079 --> 01:06:24,480
commit to a time we'll just set aside

1581
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:26,520
that hour for them

1582
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:28,200
yeah I think that's probably like

1583
01:06:28,200 --> 01:06:30,119
herding cats if you can't even get them

1584
01:06:30,119 --> 01:06:32,400
to answer period to try to get them to

1585
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:36,059
all be you know six of them agree on one

1586
01:06:36,059 --> 01:06:37,940
or two hours

1587
01:06:37,940 --> 01:06:41,280
hey yeah

1588
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:43,680
I can ask but I just think it's an it's

1589
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:46,200
a it's going to be an extra step yeah

1590
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:48,180
it's been a challenge with uh in Lansing

1591
01:06:48,180 --> 01:06:50,579
when it comes to this

1592
01:06:50,579 --> 01:06:53,099
and I could get a hold of everybody on

1593
01:06:53,099 --> 01:06:54,660
that AG list

1594
01:06:54,660 --> 01:06:57,480
and in the event that they're interested

1595
01:06:57,480 --> 01:07:01,079
in these times what would be the

1596
01:07:01,079 --> 01:07:04,980
is it going to be a zoom type thing or

1597
01:07:04,980 --> 01:07:08,760
yeah we will actually let me

1598
01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:11,039
send you I'll send you all an email with

1599
01:07:11,039 --> 01:07:13,140
all the information who's going to reach

1600
01:07:13,140 --> 01:07:15,480
out to people but I will set up a link

1601
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:17,339
so that you can send that you can send

1602
01:07:17,339 --> 01:07:19,260
that along as well

1603
01:07:19,260 --> 01:07:22,680
yeah send that to everybody uh yep in

1604
01:07:22,680 --> 01:07:26,150
the CAC

1605
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:27,839
and maybe

1606
01:07:27,839 --> 01:07:28,859
um

1607
01:07:28,859 --> 01:07:31,920
maybe this list too so that

1608
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:34,079
it's reminding everybody who's on the

1609
01:07:34,079 --> 01:07:35,160
list

1610
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:38,220
so Ed it seems like pretty critical for

1611
01:07:38,220 --> 01:07:40,200
Ed Levine to be

1612
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:41,880
interviewed

1613
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:44,700
any suggestions CJ on how that could

1614
01:07:44,700 --> 01:07:50,930
happen

1615
01:07:50,940 --> 01:07:53,160
um that's a good question I would assume

1616
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:56,940
he would he didn't respond by email I'm

1617
01:07:56,940 --> 01:07:59,160
assuming is that what I'm going to get

1618
01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:01,339
from this yeah

1619
01:08:01,339 --> 01:08:03,059
okay

1620
01:08:03,059 --> 01:08:04,799
um well I have a standing call with him

1621
01:08:04,799 --> 01:08:07,500
on Tuesday Mornings um

1622
01:08:07,500 --> 01:08:10,859
I'm happy to mention it um I think you

1623
01:08:10,859 --> 01:08:12,780
all copied me on each of the emails that

1624
01:08:12,780 --> 01:08:14,520
went out to each stakeholder group so I

1625
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:16,080
can just like bring that to the top of

1626
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:17,400
his inbox

1627
01:08:17,400 --> 01:08:18,960
if that sounds like a reasonable

1628
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:22,729
approach

1629
01:08:22,739 --> 01:08:24,779
sounds good yeah that would be great

1630
01:08:24,779 --> 01:08:26,880
thanks that's perfect because then you

1631
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:31,259
know we have at least some coverage

1632
01:08:31,259 --> 01:08:37,679
um I could I could reach out to Sean

1633
01:08:37,679 --> 01:08:39,060
walzinski

1634
01:08:39,060 --> 01:08:42,890
okay I know him

1635
01:08:42,900 --> 01:08:45,540
I I could reach out to

1636
01:08:45,540 --> 01:08:49,020
um Mike Ziegler and Deborah Dawson

1637
01:08:49,020 --> 01:08:53,870
okay and uh

1638
01:08:53,880 --> 01:08:56,759
Dan Siegel

1639
01:08:56,759 --> 01:09:05,090
I can hit up Jack young actually

1640
01:09:05,100 --> 01:09:10,070
okay great that would be really helpful

1641
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:13,849
um and I think

1642
01:09:13,859 --> 01:09:16,440
I can I can give these people a call as

1643
01:09:16,440 --> 01:09:18,120
well I mean I think again it would be

1644
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:19,920
best if it's someone from Lansing rather

1645
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:23,339
than a cold call from a consultant but

1646
01:09:23,339 --> 01:09:24,000
um

1647
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:25,739
I think we've got a good chunk of this

1648
01:09:25,739 --> 01:09:29,030
list taken up

1649
01:09:29,040 --> 01:09:31,440
yeah maybe just focus on the ones that

1650
01:09:31,440 --> 01:09:38,990
haven't been signed up for Katie

1651
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:41,040
okay great

1652
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:48,530
okay

1653
01:09:48,540 --> 01:09:51,359
all right so I think that's all we had

1654
01:09:51,359 --> 01:09:53,339
just really quickly November we're gonna

1655
01:09:53,339 --> 01:09:55,980
have the stakeholder interviews

1656
01:09:55,980 --> 01:09:57,840
um continue to promote the meeting and

1657
01:09:57,840 --> 01:09:59,580
hold the meeting and then continue to

1658
01:09:59,580 --> 01:10:01,080
promote the survey

1659
01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:03,179
once the survey closes on November 30th

1660
01:10:03,179 --> 01:10:04,860
we'll start synthesizing those results

1661
01:10:04,860 --> 01:10:07,800
and then we'll start developing that

1662
01:10:07,800 --> 01:10:09,480
conservation land assessment tool which

1663
01:10:09,480 --> 01:10:10,500
we will

1664
01:10:10,500 --> 01:10:11,160
um

1665
01:10:11,160 --> 01:10:13,980
speak to you guys all about either in

1666
01:10:13,980 --> 01:10:16,920
December or January

1667
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:20,510
super

1668
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:22,380
thank you and I enjoy the rest of your

1669
01:10:22,380 --> 01:10:24,970
meeting

1670
01:10:24,980 --> 01:10:27,600
hopeful update thank you Katie and John

1671
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:29,760
I could I could probably also reach out

1672
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:33,060
to Eileen Stout also okay

1673
01:10:33,060 --> 01:10:34,800
great

1674
01:10:34,800 --> 01:10:41,209
thanks Tom

1675
01:10:41,219 --> 01:10:43,560
but you're gonna you're gonna send us

1676
01:10:43,560 --> 01:10:45,199
something that

1677
01:10:45,199 --> 01:10:48,179
describes what this is about yep and

1678
01:10:48,179 --> 01:10:52,800
I'll also send out a list of who said they would speak to who and all

1679
01:10:52,800 --> 01:10:54,659
the information associated with this

1680
01:10:54,659 --> 01:10:57,360
yeah if you if I if um I see a list of

1681
01:10:57,360 --> 01:10:58,800
who you didn't speak to him or who

1682
01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:00,600
didn't respond I might be able to fill

1683
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:05,990
on a few gaps too okay

1684
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:08,570
that's great

1685
01:11:08,580 --> 01:11:11,280
thanks a lot

1686
01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:13,340
yeah thanks everyone

1687
01:11:13,340 --> 01:11:15,780
this has been very helpful for us thank

1688
01:11:15,780 --> 01:11:16,980
you

1689
01:11:16,980 --> 01:11:20,870
um we'll talk soon

1690
01:11:20,880 --> 01:11:28,550
have a nice night

1691
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:32,340
okay moving on to new members

1692
01:11:32,340 --> 01:11:36,649
we need two new members

1693
01:11:36,659 --> 01:11:41,990
is that right

1694
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:46,209
um

1695
01:11:46,219 --> 01:11:50,179
Ruth Hopkins had recommended somebody

1696
01:11:50,179 --> 01:11:54,239
uh and I've been in touch with them and

1697
01:11:54,239 --> 01:11:57,120
also uh Carey has been in touch with

1698
01:11:57,120 --> 01:11:59,460
them and um

1699
01:11:59,460 --> 01:12:06,050
and he may be watching uh the movie the meeting right now

1700
01:12:06,060 --> 01:12:07,679
so

1701
01:12:07,679 --> 01:12:08,280
um

1702
01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:11,520
yeah so that that's one possibility but

1703
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:14,219
we we would like to see some more

1704
01:12:14,219 --> 01:12:19,970
candidates if possible

1705
01:12:19,980 --> 01:12:22,800
so if anybody and if anybody has any

1706
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:25,790
ideas of

1707
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:29,810
um

1708
01:12:29,820 --> 01:12:31,320
I don't know if I have any ideas but

1709
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:32,640
John anybody else from the farming

1710
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:34,800
community that might join us

1711
01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:37,080
we don't have Andrew anymore so we feel

1712
01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:39,140
like we're down a person on the

1713
01:12:39,140 --> 01:12:41,699
farming Community who share some of the

1714
01:12:41,699 --> 01:12:43,320
same concerns you bring up

1715
01:12:43,320 --> 01:12:45,540
every single me I don't want I don't

1716
01:12:45,540 --> 01:12:49,070
want to exaggerate every single meeting

1717
01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:52,080
we sort of have Android I mean she's not

1718
01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:55,679
here now but she's still a liaison from

1719
01:12:55,679 --> 01:12:58,620
a town board okay you just don't know

1720
01:12:58,620 --> 01:13:01,440
how much longer anyway John if you can

1721
01:13:01,440 --> 01:13:02,880
think of anybody else that would be a

1722
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:04,679
good sector

1723
01:13:04,679 --> 01:13:06,900
keep including in here because then you

1724
01:13:06,900 --> 01:13:08,699
have like buy-in from people who are the

1725
01:13:08,699 --> 01:13:09,900
probably the most concerned about this

1726
01:13:09,900 --> 01:13:11,940
stuff

1727
01:13:11,940 --> 01:13:16,010
yep I can put some feelers out

1728
01:13:16,020 --> 01:13:18,060
see if there's some interests

1729
01:13:18,060 --> 01:13:20,760
maybe all those people you contact for

1730
01:13:20,760 --> 01:13:23,520
stakeholders

1731
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:26,460
and by the way

1732
01:13:26,460 --> 01:13:27,960
so what happened you'd be a good person

1733
01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:30,840
John I I know I'm just tangential but I

1734
01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:32,400
don't know how you'd fit here

1735
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:34,920
which Hatfield uh

1736
01:13:34,920 --> 01:13:37,199
to John Hatfield whoever the Hatfield is

1737
01:13:37,199 --> 01:13:40,250
that does the chicken

1738
01:13:40,260 --> 01:13:45,950
oh no one yeah

1739
01:13:45,960 --> 01:13:48,360
um I don't know about him okay okay

1740
01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:50,600
that's fine

1741
01:13:50,600 --> 01:13:54,300
and I don't know how Bob Munson would be

1742
01:13:54,300 --> 01:13:55,860
and Pete Larsen would be sort of on the

1743
01:13:55,860 --> 01:13:58,440
fridge

1744
01:13:58,440 --> 01:13:59,940
oops sorry Pete Larson would probably be

1745
01:13:59,940 --> 01:14:03,470
on The Fringe a little bit

1746
01:14:03,480 --> 01:14:07,140
right but might be worth talking to yeah

1747
01:14:07,140 --> 01:14:10,739
okay yeah okay Bob Munson

1748
01:14:10,739 --> 01:14:13,080
I don't you know obviously I'd let him

1749
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:15,360
make the decision but I'm not sure I

1750
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:16,260
think he's

1751
01:14:16,260 --> 01:14:19,380
pretty busy busy you know he's only

1752
01:14:19,380 --> 01:14:20,880
running four businesses at the same time

1753
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:24,900
yeah right okay how about Skip Hardy

1754
01:14:24,900 --> 01:14:27,360
skip Hardy's another good well it kind

1755
01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:28,739
of represents the same Farm John

1756
01:14:28,739 --> 01:14:31,500
represents but he's right he's a good

1757
01:14:31,500 --> 01:14:33,239
person

1758
01:14:33,239 --> 01:14:36,320
so he's also on a bunch of national

1759
01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:39,540
fairy Mills so his he's out of town a

1760
01:14:39,540 --> 01:14:42,910
lot okay

1761
01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:45,480
probably should try to diversify a

1762
01:14:45,480 --> 01:14:47,460
little bit away from

1763
01:14:47,460 --> 01:14:48,020
um

1764
01:14:48,020 --> 01:14:50,159
okay just think about it John let us

1765
01:14:50,159 --> 01:14:52,440
know if you think of somebody all right

1766
01:14:52,440 --> 01:14:54,780
yeah or even just big landowners not

1767
01:14:54,780 --> 01:14:59,090
necessarily Farmers yeah yeah

1768
01:14:59,100 --> 01:15:00,420
um

1769
01:15:00,420 --> 01:15:01,800
one good thing about getting the

1770
01:15:01,800 --> 01:15:03,900
postcard distributed is it has on there

1771
01:15:03,900 --> 01:15:07,260
that we're looking for CAC members so

1772
01:15:07,260 --> 01:15:09,199
you know the more postcards we get out

1773
01:15:09,199 --> 01:15:13,380
uh the more people are aware that we're

1774
01:15:13,380 --> 01:15:15,840
beating the bushes to get some more CAC

1775
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:18,420
members

1776
01:15:18,420 --> 01:15:20,100
Yeah by listing our names that could be

1777
01:15:20,100 --> 01:15:22,199
a double-edged sword

1778
01:15:22,199 --> 01:15:25,500
oh our names are not on there

1779
01:15:25,500 --> 01:15:29,760
okay good only CJ

1780
01:15:29,760 --> 01:15:32,760
so don't you worry town of Lansing and

1781
01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:41,229
CJ are on the postcard

1782
01:15:41,239 --> 01:15:45,360
so the process do you want to go over

1783
01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:47,600
that Tom or you want me to mention it

1784
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:51,300
say that again the process for the new

1785
01:15:51,300 --> 01:15:54,719
CAC members is that they need to apply

1786
01:15:54,719 --> 01:15:58,380
by November 30th and they need to do

1787
01:15:58,380 --> 01:16:00,480
that through I believe it's a Tompkins

1788
01:16:00,480 --> 01:16:04,260
County website uh right CJ

1789
01:16:04,260 --> 01:16:06,300
um and then

1790
01:16:06,300 --> 01:16:09,780
um we will be getting the this

1791
01:16:09,780 --> 01:16:14,219
um Regular influx of applications as a

1792
01:16:14,219 --> 01:16:17,400
CAC we'll need to review them

1793
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:19,860
um ASAP because

1794
01:16:19,860 --> 01:16:23,179
um our December meeting is on the first

1795
01:16:23,179 --> 01:16:26,460
and so the idea is that as soon as an

1796
01:16:26,460 --> 01:16:28,739
application comes in Heather's going to

1797
01:16:28,739 --> 01:16:31,560
notify the applicant that it's highly

1798
01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:33,120
likely that they will need to be

1799
01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:35,880
interviewed during the CAC meeting on

1800
01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:37,739
Thursday December 1st

1801
01:16:37,739 --> 01:16:42,000
and so um we could have a number of

1802
01:16:42,000 --> 01:16:44,280
people to interview if we're lucky on

1803
01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:46,140
that night and we'll do it the way we

1804
01:16:46,140 --> 01:16:49,020
did last year where they come I think we

1805
01:16:49,020 --> 01:16:52,020
allowed about a half an hour uh for each

1806
01:16:52,020 --> 01:16:57,000
one then a 15 minute break just because

1807
01:16:57,000 --> 01:16:59,100
it doesn't always work out so neatly and

1808
01:16:59,100 --> 01:17:00,780
then the next one would start

1809
01:17:00,780 --> 01:17:02,100
so

1810
01:17:02,100 --> 01:17:06,060
um just to prepare you for that meeting

1811
01:17:06,060 --> 01:17:08,520
um looking at the applications ahead of

1812
01:17:08,520 --> 01:17:11,400
time and then we'll probably circulate

1813
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:13,140
questions ahead of time like we did last

1814
01:17:13,140 --> 01:17:14,040
year

1815
01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:16,920
and then do the interviews on December

1816
01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:18,480
1st then we would need to make

1817
01:17:18,480 --> 01:17:20,699
recommendations so we'd need to you know

1818
01:17:20,699 --> 01:17:22,980
stay after the interviews talk about the

1819
01:17:22,980 --> 01:17:24,719
candidates

1820
01:17:24,719 --> 01:17:25,640
um

1821
01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:28,219
make sure the candidate still wants us

1822
01:17:28,219 --> 01:17:31,440
and then recommend to the board I hope I

1823
01:17:31,440 --> 01:17:34,920
have that all correct uh CJ so I'm

1824
01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:36,960
confused though I have the application

1825
01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:44,410
is from the county

1826
01:17:44,420 --> 01:17:48,300
yeah um there's a repository like an

1827
01:17:48,300 --> 01:17:50,880
archive called laserfish and it's a you

1828
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:53,219
know the county clerk's uh graciously

1829
01:17:53,219 --> 01:17:54,659
set this up for us so that when someone

1830
01:17:54,659 --> 01:17:57,480
hit submit uh I get a copy Heather gets

1831
01:17:57,480 --> 01:17:59,699
copy town clerk gets a copy it kind of

1832
01:17:59,699 --> 01:18:01,140
um makes it easier for everyone to

1833
01:18:01,140 --> 01:18:02,760
coordinate and turns an application into

1834
01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:06,060
a PDF which is super nice so just makes

1835
01:18:06,060 --> 01:18:07,560
it easy for all of us to coordinate

1836
01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:09,480
especially because you know the town

1837
01:18:09,480 --> 01:18:11,640
clerks take uh record all the committee

1838
01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:13,920
members let people know when terms are

1839
01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:15,900
up and really organize all that for the

1840
01:18:15,900 --> 01:18:18,000
annual organizational resolutions so

1841
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:20,040
that's just a helpful way for us to

1842
01:18:20,040 --> 01:18:22,020
coordinate

1843
01:18:22,020 --> 01:18:24,900
so if somebody wants to apply they have

1844
01:18:24,900 --> 01:18:26,699
to go to the county they don't go to the

1845
01:18:26,699 --> 01:18:28,679
town no no no no no no you of course

1846
01:18:28,679 --> 01:18:31,440
yeah they go to lansingtown.com

1847
01:18:31,440 --> 01:18:34,620
and uh if you see the uh button on the

1848
01:18:34,620 --> 01:18:36,300
top that says

1849
01:18:36,300 --> 01:18:38,580
um uh boards and committees under

1850
01:18:38,580 --> 01:18:40,560
departments

1851
01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:43,199
um you can click on any different

1852
01:18:43,199 --> 01:18:45,719
committee and in this instance uh you

1853
01:18:45,719 --> 01:18:47,820
have click on conservation advisory

1854
01:18:47,820 --> 01:18:50,699
Council and in fact if you want uh we'll

1855
01:18:50,699 --> 01:18:52,080
just uh

1856
01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:53,880
walk you right through it so hold on

1857
01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:57,229
just a moment and I will

1858
01:18:57,239 --> 01:18:58,860
show you how

1859
01:18:58,860 --> 01:19:01,920
um how easy it is

1860
01:19:01,920 --> 01:19:04,380
so um yep here's on the town page and

1861
01:19:04,380 --> 01:19:06,420
just to let you know we do have um the

1862
01:19:06,420 --> 01:19:09,600
events so ccc's tonight and then we also

1863
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:11,340
have the events coming up

1864
01:19:11,340 --> 01:19:14,699
on the calendar as well so um folks are

1865
01:19:14,699 --> 01:19:16,260
aware of those

1866
01:19:16,260 --> 01:19:18,300
and the flyer and such but if you want

1867
01:19:18,300 --> 01:19:20,460
to apply you simply go to boards and

1868
01:19:20,460 --> 01:19:22,260
committees and here's all the towns the

1869
01:19:22,260 --> 01:19:24,120
boards and committees is currently

1870
01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:26,760
listed and you go to CAC and you're

1871
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:28,800
going to go right to this application uh

1872
01:19:28,800 --> 01:19:31,500
right here okay so um click on this

1873
01:19:31,500 --> 01:19:33,659
application and it takes you to yes it

1874
01:19:33,659 --> 01:19:35,760
is an external page through this LF web

1875
01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:39,480
uh so it's hosted by the laser archive

1876
01:19:39,480 --> 01:19:43,199
but we use it as our repository for all

1877
01:19:43,199 --> 01:19:44,760
kinds of archival Records so it's

1878
01:19:44,760 --> 01:19:47,580
actually really great resource and so

1879
01:19:47,580 --> 01:19:49,260
folks fill this out just like they did

1880
01:19:49,260 --> 01:19:51,120
like um you remember the old paper

1881
01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:52,739
application which we still have the

1882
01:19:52,739 --> 01:19:54,719
paper no worries if you'd like to fill

1883
01:19:54,719 --> 01:19:56,400
out paper we can certainly accommodate

1884
01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:59,100
that but then these folks just will hit

1885
01:19:59,100 --> 01:20:01,260
submit and depending on the committee

1886
01:20:01,260 --> 01:20:02,880
that they're submitting to we'll send to

1887
01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:05,520
a different person in uh Town Hall but

1888
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:07,140
always including the Town Clerk and such

1889
01:20:07,140 --> 01:20:09,000
so it's a great record-keeping tool for

1890
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:11,480
us so that's it that's the whole thing

1891
01:20:11,480 --> 01:20:15,060
CJ or Carrie um I just saw that fly by

1892
01:20:15,060 --> 01:20:18,840
so quickly I'm sorry if maybe I missed

1893
01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:21,360
or something or dropped the ball but I

1894
01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:23,760
my term expires next month am I supposed

1895
01:20:23,760 --> 01:20:26,040
to reapply

1896
01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:29,219
uh yes so we have uh so let me go to our

1897
01:20:29,219 --> 01:20:30,840
uh handy dandy

1898
01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:33,000
um board

1899
01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:35,400
um application process so hold on just a

1900
01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:38,090
moment

1901
01:20:38,100 --> 01:20:45,169
what to do

1902
01:20:45,179 --> 01:20:48,840
let's just find it or if you CJ if you

1903
01:20:48,840 --> 01:20:50,040
want could you just send that link

1904
01:20:50,040 --> 01:20:51,420
around

1905
01:20:51,420 --> 01:20:54,060
oh yes uh and it's also listed on the

1906
01:20:54,060 --> 01:20:55,880
postcard

1907
01:20:55,880 --> 01:20:57,960
listed on the what

1908
01:20:57,960 --> 01:21:00,060
the post office

1909
01:21:00,060 --> 01:21:03,239
I just need a link so I can fill it out

1910
01:21:03,239 --> 01:21:06,120
yeah easy peasy um we'll drop that right

1911
01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:07,860
in the chat for you

1912
01:21:07,860 --> 01:21:10,320
so that's the uh direct link to the

1913
01:21:10,320 --> 01:21:12,600
application so you don't have to go uh

1914
01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:14,100
you know Meandering of course through

1915
01:21:14,100 --> 01:21:17,580
the uh towns website which hopefully

1916
01:21:17,580 --> 01:21:28,149
it's fairly easy to find but um foreign

1917
01:21:28,159 --> 01:21:32,719
ago you might all um recall we created a

1918
01:21:32,719 --> 01:21:36,420
pointed board application process to try

1919
01:21:36,420 --> 01:21:38,219
to make things a little easier for folks

1920
01:21:38,219 --> 01:21:40,080
to understand kind of how to go through

1921
01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:43,560
the process of um uh you know applying

1922
01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:47,520
for a new term or uh applying to a join

1923
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:50,820
for the first time uh so we're about to

1924
01:21:50,820 --> 01:21:53,340
send out the advertisement for

1925
01:21:53,340 --> 01:21:56,040
um inviting folks and then of course any

1926
01:21:56,040 --> 01:21:59,400
current uh member of any of the uh

1927
01:21:59,400 --> 01:22:02,280
bodies listed above so CAC planning

1928
01:22:02,280 --> 01:22:04,080
organism and guard will receive an

1929
01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:06,360
invitation with that link on it and um

1930
01:22:06,360 --> 01:22:08,520
uh we'll just apply and see uh

1931
01:22:08,520 --> 01:22:10,980
applications uh either scan to PDF of

1932
01:22:10,980 --> 01:22:12,540
their paper but like I just showed you

1933
01:22:12,540 --> 01:22:15,000
the handy dandy laserfish site just

1934
01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:17,159
creates a wonderful PDF record for us

1935
01:22:17,159 --> 01:22:19,260
automatically we'll circulate those two

1936
01:22:19,260 --> 01:22:21,840
as we did last year and we go through

1937
01:22:21,840 --> 01:22:23,940
this process as you may all be familiar

1938
01:22:23,940 --> 01:22:25,739
with now we go into

1939
01:22:25,739 --> 01:22:27,840
um you know executive session to you

1940
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:29,460
know discuss the particular candidates

1941
01:22:29,460 --> 01:22:32,040
and then um when interviews are

1942
01:22:32,040 --> 01:22:34,380
completed you'll make a recommendation

1943
01:22:34,380 --> 01:22:37,679
which will then go to Soundboard

1944
01:22:37,679 --> 01:22:39,719
um and that's pretty much it and I'm

1945
01:22:39,719 --> 01:22:42,000
happy to drop this in the chat as well

1946
01:22:42,000 --> 01:22:44,280
just so you all have a copy and know how

1947
01:22:44,280 --> 01:22:45,480
that works

1948
01:22:45,480 --> 01:22:52,510
foreign

1949
01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:55,020
at the bottom of the flow chart there it

1950
01:22:55,020 --> 01:22:57,300
said that the applicants

1951
01:22:57,300 --> 01:22:59,040
um they're if they're not selected their

1952
01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:01,739
application stays on file

1953
01:23:01,739 --> 01:23:05,820
um yes uh so yep we'll be inviting um all

1954
01:23:05,820 --> 01:23:09,600
the folks uh who applied previously

1955
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:11,580
um to apply again or we usually just

1956
01:23:11,580 --> 01:23:13,380
reach out to say hey we have an uh

1957
01:23:13,380 --> 01:23:15,239
application on file that we received in

1958
01:23:15,239 --> 01:23:16,320
the last few years are you still

1959
01:23:16,320 --> 01:23:18,420
interested basically just to confirm

1960
01:23:18,420 --> 01:23:19,860
that they would still be interested in

1961
01:23:19,860 --> 01:23:21,060
turning

1962
01:23:21,060 --> 01:23:24,480
hey so another another question CJ since

1963
01:23:24,480 --> 01:23:25,320
um

1964
01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:28,679
if I had had made this mistake of not

1965
01:23:28,679 --> 01:23:31,620
indicating that I might be interested to

1966
01:23:31,620 --> 01:23:33,540
stay on the committee does that change

1967
01:23:33,540 --> 01:23:39,000
the number of two open spots or is it

1968
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:41,460
um this is not this is not an automatic

1969
01:23:41,460 --> 01:23:43,860
thing to just re re-up in other words

1970
01:23:43,860 --> 01:23:47,100
right right we want to give

1971
01:23:47,100 --> 01:23:49,380
um you know I think the process that the

1972
01:23:49,380 --> 01:23:52,679
town board uh had developed here is this

1973
01:23:52,679 --> 01:23:54,960
kind of happened you know just as covid

1974
01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:58,620
was um kind of happening uh as well I

1975
01:23:58,620 --> 01:24:00,120
wanted to

1976
01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:02,699
um essentially just establish a what I

1977
01:24:02,699 --> 01:24:05,280
guess they saw some a fair process to

1978
01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:07,199
give people a chance to renew if they

1979
01:24:07,199 --> 01:24:09,000
wanted to and then invite new people as

1980
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:12,060
well so okay so it's it's a it's a

1981
01:24:12,060 --> 01:24:14,159
completely open field then

1982
01:24:14,159 --> 01:24:17,100
as far as I see it um and so here's the

1983
01:24:17,100 --> 01:24:20,760
folks currently uh so here's all of you

1984
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:23,040
um and so as you can see we've got and

1985
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:24,420
remember they're two-year staggered

1986
01:24:24,420 --> 01:24:25,980
terms so this is not and they were all

1987
01:24:25,980 --> 01:24:28,080
by alphabetical order there wasn't you

1988
01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:31,800
know any other method used to indicate

1989
01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:36,300
um terms so the B's and the E's and such

1990
01:24:36,300 --> 01:24:38,340
are in the beginning of the alphabet and

1991
01:24:38,340 --> 01:24:41,280
thus are ending 2022.

1992
01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:43,440
and so the other ones you can see are

1993
01:24:43,440 --> 01:24:46,140
2023 so at the end of next year all the

1994
01:24:46,140 --> 01:24:49,199
2023 folks of course would uh re-up if

1995
01:24:49,199 --> 01:24:51,960
they wanted to plug in oh okay so I mean

1996
01:24:51,960 --> 01:24:54,060
Andrew's dropping off anyway Tom is

1997
01:24:54,060 --> 01:24:58,040
dropping off anyway Evan is intersection

1998
01:24:58,040 --> 01:25:00,000
Andrew's actually not a member anymore

1999
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,760
she's a liaison from the town board so

2000
01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:05,340
the just the nine members here so one

2001
01:25:05,340 --> 01:25:08,580
two three four so it's really easy it's

2002
01:25:08,580 --> 01:25:11,640
just really Robin and me right now

2003
01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:13,679
Robin you

2004
01:25:13,679 --> 01:25:16,500
um Tom C and Evan ogada who I have yet

2005
01:25:16,500 --> 01:25:18,540
to I think meet

2006
01:25:18,540 --> 01:25:21,900
Evan's not been on the committee

2007
01:25:21,900 --> 01:25:24,360
actively I don't think

2008
01:25:24,360 --> 01:25:27,000
so Karen you may have an application

2009
01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:29,280
that's already on file that you might be

2010
01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:30,780
able to activate because I think last

2011
01:25:30,780 --> 01:25:34,739
year you applied because we thought we

2012
01:25:34,739 --> 01:25:37,020
had differing information about whether

2013
01:25:37,020 --> 01:25:39,239
your term was up and I'm pretty sure you

2014
01:25:39,239 --> 01:25:41,360
submitted an application

2015
01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:45,719
where where do you find that well CG

2016
01:25:45,719 --> 01:25:47,699
might be able to help somehow just dig

2017
01:25:47,699 --> 01:25:49,440
it out

2018
01:25:49,440 --> 01:25:52,080
um but if not you do have to reapply and

2019
01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:56,450
um Robin you'll need to also

2020
01:25:56,460 --> 01:25:58,380
did you see my question about whether we

2021
01:25:58,380 --> 01:26:03,110
need to interview again

2022
01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:04,679
um I the

2023
01:26:04,679 --> 01:26:09,179
my memory from last year was that

2024
01:26:09,179 --> 01:26:14,460
the CAC member made a very cursory

2025
01:26:14,460 --> 01:26:18,239
statement of interest and then

2026
01:26:18,239 --> 01:26:19,020
um

2027
01:26:19,020 --> 01:26:22,260
and then they signed off somehow CJ I

2028
01:26:22,260 --> 01:26:23,820
think you were able to do it such that

2029
01:26:23,820 --> 01:26:26,159
the person was that they left the room

2030
01:26:26,159 --> 01:26:28,320
and then they joined the room again but

2031
01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:31,020
when they left the room then the CAC was

2032
01:26:31,020 --> 01:26:32,239
able to

2033
01:26:32,239 --> 01:26:35,760
give a thumbs up or uh express any

2034
01:26:35,760 --> 01:26:38,040
concerns and I I don't think we've had a

2035
01:26:38,040 --> 01:26:40,080
time when we've expressed

2036
01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:46,030
concerns about current members

2037
01:26:46,040 --> 01:26:51,120
so it wasn't a formal long interview

2038
01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:52,920
okay

2039
01:26:52,920 --> 01:26:56,699
quick quick statement of Interest

2040
01:26:56,699 --> 01:26:59,880
so CJ do you want me to ping you

2041
01:26:59,880 --> 01:27:03,120
separately about whether that

2042
01:27:03,120 --> 01:27:05,340
application is still on file I mean I

2043
01:27:05,340 --> 01:27:07,139
don't think it's changed

2044
01:27:07,139 --> 01:27:10,440
appreciably uh yeah we're uh so early

2045
01:27:10,440 --> 01:27:14,040
next week uh we'll be starting to pull

2046
01:27:14,040 --> 01:27:16,679
out the prior applications from the

2047
01:27:16,679 --> 01:27:19,440
previous three years uh and just

2048
01:27:19,440 --> 01:27:21,120
following with with people it's part of

2049
01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:24,960
our planning board cac's EPA process so

2050
01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:27,120
um it's just that Heather's been in Code

2051
01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:28,800
Enforcement Training the first module

2052
01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:30,840
this week so uh that's why we haven't

2053
01:27:30,840 --> 01:27:33,000
had a chance to get to it yet but

2054
01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:35,040
we will be following up

2055
01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:48,229
okay great thanks absolutely

2056
01:27:48,239 --> 01:27:52,199
okay are we all set with um the new

2057
01:27:52,199 --> 01:27:57,110
members issue

2058
01:27:57,120 --> 01:28:01,669
I think so

2059
01:28:01,679 --> 01:28:04,920
okay Department reports planning

2060
01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:06,659
department report

2061
01:28:06,659 --> 01:28:07,620
um

2062
01:28:07,620 --> 01:28:10,620
well also I'm going to say is that the

2063
01:28:10,620 --> 01:28:14,460
traffic impact study related to Dandy

2064
01:28:14,460 --> 01:28:15,719
Mart

2065
01:28:15,719 --> 01:28:17,880
has been received

2066
01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:20,760
and it's available

2067
01:28:20,760 --> 01:28:26,030
on the town website I believe

2068
01:28:26,040 --> 01:28:29,820
and I have I have recused myself from

2069
01:28:29,820 --> 01:28:32,580
The Dandy mark

2070
01:28:32,580 --> 01:28:34,500
application

2071
01:28:34,500 --> 01:28:37,620
because as a CAC member I you know I was

2072
01:28:37,620 --> 01:28:39,000
part of the

2073
01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:40,560
foreign

2074
01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:44,520
the comments that the CAC sent to uh to

2075
01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:49,189
the planning board regarding Dandy Mart

2076
01:28:49,199 --> 01:28:51,600
and

2077
01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:53,580
the town does not want to see any kind

2078
01:28:53,580 --> 01:28:57,050
of conflict of interest

2079
01:28:57,060 --> 01:29:01,129
regarding that issue

2080
01:29:01,139 --> 01:29:04,260
so that that I think is the only

2081
01:29:04,260 --> 01:29:13,450
thing that playing board is up to that relates to CAC

2082
01:29:13,460 --> 01:29:17,219
and we have no Town board liaison here

2083
01:29:17,219 --> 01:29:20,149
so

2084
01:29:20,159 --> 01:29:22,739
I guess we could skip that

2085
01:29:22,739 --> 01:29:24,480
and David do you want to say something

2086
01:29:24,480 --> 01:29:26,400
about the um

2087
01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:28,679
Environmental Management Council well

2088
01:29:28,679 --> 01:29:30,719
that too is uh so there was no

2089
01:29:30,719 --> 01:29:32,340
Environmental Management council meeting

2090
01:29:32,340 --> 01:29:36,480
last month if you recall October 18th

2091
01:29:36,480 --> 01:29:38,940
which almost coincided with their

2092
01:29:38,940 --> 01:29:41,280
monthly meeting which is usually on the

2093
01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:43,440
second Thursday of the month

2094
01:29:43,440 --> 01:29:45,719
um they were you know some of them were

2095
01:29:45,719 --> 01:29:47,820
pretty involved in organizing that and

2096
01:29:47,820 --> 01:29:48,960
some of them are going to be attending

2097
01:29:48,960 --> 01:29:52,340
that so they just skip the meeting

2098
01:29:52,340 --> 01:29:55,620
the that was the event that was focused

2099
01:29:55,620 --> 01:29:56,940
on

2100
01:29:56,940 --> 01:30:01,380
uh they had various uh organizations in

2101
01:30:01,380 --> 01:30:03,600
the Tompkins County area that were

2102
01:30:03,600 --> 01:30:06,719
focused on Emergency Management type

2103
01:30:06,719 --> 01:30:07,739
issues

2104
01:30:07,739 --> 01:30:09,300
and it had sort of a climate change

2105
01:30:09,300 --> 01:30:11,460
twist to it too thinking about flooding

2106
01:30:11,460 --> 01:30:12,719
and some of the things we're seeing with

2107
01:30:12,719 --> 01:30:13,920
climate change

2108
01:30:13,920 --> 01:30:17,159
but not exclusively and it was I forget

2109
01:30:17,159 --> 01:30:18,840
three to four different agencies fire

2110
01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:20,820
departments police departments

2111
01:30:20,820 --> 01:30:21,719
um

2112
01:30:21,719 --> 01:30:24,659
I think there was someone from um yeah

2113
01:30:24,659 --> 01:30:25,560
that

2114
01:30:25,560 --> 01:30:27,719
Ithaca

2115
01:30:27,719 --> 01:30:30,179
city offices that deal with Emergency

2116
01:30:30,179 --> 01:30:31,920
Management just kind of like who you

2117
01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:33,179
call us was really for you know General

2118
01:30:33,179 --> 01:30:36,360
citizens uh in general very Broad

2119
01:30:36,360 --> 01:30:38,580
uh audience involved

2120
01:30:38,580 --> 01:30:39,960
focused on

2121
01:30:39,960 --> 01:30:42,780
um who are concerned about you know some

2122
01:30:42,780 --> 01:30:44,219
you know want to know what what to do in

2123
01:30:44,219 --> 01:30:46,620
certain situations so anyway I guess it

2124
01:30:46,620 --> 01:30:49,440
was pretty successful but that's all I

2125
01:30:49,440 --> 01:30:53,030
have to say about that

2126
01:30:53,040 --> 01:30:54,540
okay

2127
01:30:54,540 --> 01:30:58,199
well I think that wraps up uh what we

2128
01:30:58,199 --> 01:31:00,540
wanted to cover during this meeting is

2129
01:31:00,540 --> 01:31:03,239
there any other uh new business that

2130
01:31:03,239 --> 01:31:05,460
people want to discuss the only other

2131
01:31:05,460 --> 01:31:09,420
one that came up was Robin's bird uh

2132
01:31:09,420 --> 01:31:10,980
demo

2133
01:31:10,980 --> 01:31:12,360
and

2134
01:31:12,360 --> 01:31:14,760
um I mean Robin if you wanted to do that

2135
01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:17,040
more thoroughly we could do it

2136
01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:18,840
um in the next month or two or if you

2137
01:31:18,840 --> 01:31:20,400
wanted to show it tonight that's also

2138
01:31:20,400 --> 01:31:26,510
possible before that we do the trainings

2139
01:31:26,520 --> 01:31:30,120
I wasn't planning to show you the bird

2140
01:31:30,120 --> 01:31:32,699
um you joined the bird conservation tool

2141
01:31:32,699 --> 01:31:36,360
that I sent via email

2142
01:31:36,360 --> 01:31:38,420
um no I wasn't planning any kind of

2143
01:31:38,420 --> 01:31:42,060
formal demo of it okay

2144
01:31:42,060 --> 01:31:43,679
you want to do that at different meeting

2145
01:31:43,679 --> 01:31:45,719
or just have people look at it

2146
01:31:45,719 --> 01:31:46,860
individually

2147
01:31:46,860 --> 01:31:49,739
well I was just thinking about

2148
01:31:49,739 --> 01:31:52,139
um you know who who would benefit from

2149
01:31:52,139 --> 01:31:56,629
seeing that tool and I think it

2150
01:31:56,639 --> 01:31:59,340
all of us would benefit from it but

2151
01:31:59,340 --> 01:32:00,060
um

2152
01:32:00,060 --> 01:32:03,780
you know would Katie and John need to

2153
01:32:03,780 --> 01:32:06,239
look at it to see you know understand

2154
01:32:06,239 --> 01:32:08,280
more about you know

2155
01:32:08,280 --> 01:32:11,040
bird habitat in Lansing and I don't I

2156
01:32:11,040 --> 01:32:13,679
saw Karen commented on it too I'm not

2157
01:32:13,679 --> 01:32:15,000
really sure how to use the information

2158
01:32:15,000 --> 01:32:17,159
right now just that it was a tool that

2159
01:32:17,159 --> 01:32:19,139
showed

2160
01:32:19,139 --> 01:32:22,320
um various Open Spaces I see CJ has a

2161
01:32:22,320 --> 01:32:25,310
hand raised

2162
01:32:25,320 --> 01:32:27,300
CJ did you have something to say about

2163
01:32:27,300 --> 01:32:30,060
it uh not about this but about another

2164
01:32:30,060 --> 01:32:31,980
item I had spoken with Carrie earlier

2165
01:32:31,980 --> 01:32:34,800
today about the Water Resources Council

2166
01:32:34,800 --> 01:32:39,300
oh right yeah okay so Robin maybe we

2167
01:32:39,300 --> 01:32:42,060
could um table it to January when um

2168
01:32:42,060 --> 01:32:44,760
Katie and John Stein met so be with us

2169
01:32:44,760 --> 01:32:46,620
again

2170
01:32:46,620 --> 01:32:49,260
yeah possibly yeah I think it was just

2171
01:32:49,260 --> 01:32:52,320
with um show some areas on the map maybe

2172
01:32:52,320 --> 01:32:54,420
we could look at how they compare to the

2173
01:32:54,420 --> 01:32:56,520
areas that people in the survey

2174
01:32:56,520 --> 01:32:59,400
have already indicated Maybe

2175
01:32:59,400 --> 01:33:02,100
there's overlap but yeah maybe not not

2176
01:33:02,100 --> 01:33:02,940
tonight

2177
01:33:02,940 --> 01:33:11,149
that would be awesome perfect

2178
01:33:11,159 --> 01:33:12,420
okay

2179
01:33:12,420 --> 01:33:14,510
um

2180
01:33:14,520 --> 01:33:15,900
Carrie did you want to say something

2181
01:33:15,900 --> 01:33:18,840
about the Water Resources Council well I

2182
01:33:18,840 --> 01:33:21,600
think CJ could actually

2183
01:33:21,600 --> 01:33:24,239
um that'd be great yeah I just wanted to

2184
01:33:24,239 --> 01:33:26,580
um so I heard from Darby Catalia

2185
01:33:26,580 --> 01:33:29,820
Tompkins County Planning uh asking about

2186
01:33:29,820 --> 01:33:33,500
uh they have two vacancies for next year

2187
01:33:33,500 --> 01:33:35,639
uh to the Tompkins County Water

2188
01:33:35,639 --> 01:33:37,679
Resources Council and that's an Advisory

2189
01:33:37,679 --> 01:33:39,840
Board to the County Legislature and

2190
01:33:39,840 --> 01:33:42,199
they're looking for an at-large and

2191
01:33:42,199 --> 01:33:45,179
Municipal seat so

2192
01:33:45,179 --> 01:33:48,960
um they're looking for the there's no

2193
01:33:48,960 --> 01:33:51,360
kind of official approval needed but uh

2194
01:33:51,360 --> 01:33:52,860
we're asking about

2195
01:33:52,860 --> 01:33:55,560
um uh or at least from their perspective

2196
01:33:55,560 --> 01:33:57,480
I believe that the town would probably

2197
01:33:57,480 --> 01:34:00,239
want to formally appoint somebody but I

2198
01:34:00,239 --> 01:34:01,800
want to see if there was any interest uh

2199
01:34:01,800 --> 01:34:10,810
from anyone on conservation advisor

2200
01:34:10,820 --> 01:34:14,219
I might be interested

2201
01:34:14,219 --> 01:34:16,739
okay great it was okay if I pass on your

2202
01:34:16,739 --> 01:34:21,360
email that's a Darvish sure okay

2203
01:34:21,360 --> 01:34:23,100
foreign

2204
01:34:23,100 --> 01:34:25,320
okay great thank you very much unless

2205
01:34:25,320 --> 01:34:27,239
and if there's anyone else you know uh

2206
01:34:27,239 --> 01:34:28,739
you're interested in serving on the

2207
01:34:28,739 --> 01:34:30,540
County Water Resources Council I'm happy

2208
01:34:30,540 --> 01:34:32,940
to pass your name on for consideration

2209
01:34:32,940 --> 01:34:35,040
I hope there wouldn't be a conflict of

2210
01:34:35,040 --> 01:34:40,430
interest

2211
01:34:40,440 --> 01:34:41,219
ing

2212
01:34:41,219 --> 01:34:43,980
there will be

2213
01:34:43,980 --> 01:34:45,780
I'm really

2214
01:34:45,780 --> 01:34:48,420
um not happy with this

2215
01:34:48,420 --> 01:34:49,739
but

2216
01:34:49,739 --> 01:34:51,060
yeah well I think it's absolutely

2217
01:34:51,060 --> 01:34:52,620
ludicrous that there's a conflict of

2218
01:34:52,620 --> 01:34:54,900
interest for what what you're doing as

2219
01:34:54,900 --> 01:34:56,580
opposed to a past present who broke

2220
01:34:56,580 --> 01:34:59,100
every ethics Norm that we ever seen in

2221
01:34:59,100 --> 01:35:02,760
government so we have just an absurd

2222
01:35:02,760 --> 01:35:04,260
situation where at the local level

2223
01:35:04,260 --> 01:35:06,000
they're holding you to a standard that's

2224
01:35:06,000 --> 01:35:09,360
just beyond imagination and then at the

2225
01:35:09,360 --> 01:35:11,340
at this Federal level

2226
01:35:11,340 --> 01:35:13,380
who the hell cares

2227
01:35:13,380 --> 01:35:20,870
yeah

2228
01:35:20,880 --> 01:35:23,760
okay on that note and we are going to

2229
01:35:23,760 --> 01:35:26,460
start our trainings and

2230
01:35:26,460 --> 01:35:27,360
um

2231
01:35:27,360 --> 01:35:29,780
we're gonna start with the workplace

2232
01:35:29,780 --> 01:35:32,880
violence first because I think there are

2233
01:35:32,880 --> 01:35:35,159
more people who need that training than

2234
01:35:35,159 --> 01:35:37,800
the subsequent one and that will allow

2235
01:35:37,800 --> 01:35:41,460
those folks to actually get off because

2236
01:35:41,460 --> 01:35:45,840
they will have fulfilled uh the next one

2237
01:35:45,840 --> 01:35:46,800
um

2238
01:35:46,800 --> 01:35:50,639
I think other places Cornell Etc

2239
01:35:50,639 --> 01:35:52,139
so

2240
01:35:52,139 --> 01:35:55,139
um CJ I think you have uh workplace

2241
01:35:55,139 --> 01:35:58,440
violence queued up maybe I hope

2242
01:35:58,440 --> 01:36:01,020
and I'm not sure do we need to go live

2243
01:36:01,020 --> 01:36:03,780
at this for this part uh no we can

2244
01:36:03,780 --> 01:36:05,280
certainly disable that if you'd like to

2245
01:36:05,280 --> 01:36:07,560
this is just a training now so if you'd

2246
01:36:07,560 --> 01:36:09,600
like to end the meeting formally that's

2247
01:36:09,600 --> 01:36:11,400
perfect peaceful

2248
01:36:11,400 --> 01:36:15,260
okay let's uh let's adjourn